Alex Jones Show - 20040217_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:10.000 You want answers?

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:30.000 It's Tuesday, the 17th day of February, 2004.

00:00:33.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:39.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:41.000 The websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:00:46.000 We're going to have wide open phones in the first two hours.

00:00:51.000 In the third hour, we've got Greg Pallas coming back on the show, award-winning BBC investigative reporter, best-selling author, To get more into our government helping arm and cover up the proliferation of nuclear weapons components by Pakistan, but also the smoking gun evidence of Bush lying about his military record.

00:01:14.000 So that's coming up in the third hour, in the first two hours.

00:01:17.000 We're going to have wide open phones, any issue you want to discuss, any news item, anything you want to go over.

00:01:23.000 Coming up, two more GIs and a U.S.

00:01:26.000 civilian killed in Iraq.

00:01:28.000 This is every day now.

00:01:31.000 This is out of the Star Bulletin.

00:01:33.000 Genealogists call Bush and Kerry kin.

00:01:36.000 Now I'm confused.

00:01:38.000 Reuters says they're third cousins.

00:01:40.000 NPR says they're distant cousins.

00:01:44.000 And this article says they're 16th cousins.

00:01:46.000 So I don't know.

00:01:48.000 I'm not a genealogist specialist, but from what I've read, most of the Skull & Bones members are related on multiple sides of their families.

00:01:56.000 So we'll go over that.

00:01:58.000 Also, Kerry would be third richest U.S.

00:02:00.000 President in history.

00:02:01.000 Uh, that's not true.

00:02:02.000 The real money, like Bush and others, hide their true wealth.

00:02:06.000 I'm not saying having wealth's bad, but the way they got it is bad.

00:02:11.000 Bush, for the third time, has now released his full military record.

00:02:16.000 But they wouldn't let the media leave with copies of it.

00:02:19.000 We'll go over that.

00:02:21.000 We already have the military record.

00:02:23.000 He was AWOL, folks.

00:02:26.000 Also, surplus Army vehicles find new life in the era of Homeland Security.

00:02:30.000 They say since 9-11, they're arming and militarizing your local police.

00:02:34.000 They were doing this at least a decade before 9-11.

00:02:38.000 But again, now that the police state's in place, they go, oh, it's because of 9-11.

00:02:42.000 But it has nothing to do with keeping you safe and everything to do with oppressing you.

00:02:46.000 What is it they're planning that they know we're going to resist?

00:02:50.000 Also, new scholarship created for whites only from CNN.

00:02:54.000 A student group at Roger Williams University is offering a new scholarship for which only white students are eligible.

00:03:00.000 A move, they say, is designed to protest affirmative action.

00:03:04.000 And I agree with what they're saying.

00:03:07.000 Also, Schwarzenegger urged to arrest San Francisco mayor.

00:03:10.000 Group says Newsom should face prison for false marriage licenses.

00:03:15.000 We'll get to that.

00:03:17.000 From the Daily Texan right here in Austin, Army agent questions law students.

00:03:22.000 You have military intelligence officers walking around cornering people here in Austin.

00:03:29.000 All part of living in the new third world system. 1.00

00:03:31.000 Also out of AFP, give police Star Trek style weapons, says senior officer.

00:03:36.000 They've got these little... Well, wait till we get to it.

00:03:39.000 It is science fiction, but here we are in 2004.

00:03:43.000 Also doctors who carry guns and make arrests.

00:03:46.000 A couple sue over police raid.

00:03:49.000 Book, Bush was arrested for cocaine in 1972.

00:03:53.000 We'll get into all of it and a lot more here on the show today.

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00:04:06.000 but the first thing I'm going to cover when we get back is prime time with Diane Sawyer

00:04:14.000 last night. When we get back I'll go over it.

00:04:17.000 I got very angry.

00:04:18.000 It's something I've been doing more and more these days.

00:04:21.000 When I got home at about midnight from working on a new film, my wife had recorded it for me, and so I sat down and watched the interview with Mel Gibson, and I've got some comments on this when I get back. 0.51

00:04:35.000 I've got some very serious comments about Mr. Foxman and others, who are a pack of liars, and I am sick of them.

00:04:43.000 So that's coming up as well, and We've got to expose these organizations that are trying to destroy the First Amendment here in the United States.

00:04:52.000 So stay with us.

00:04:53.000 I'll discuss that when we get back and then we'll go to your calls and all this news.

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00:07:55.000 Big Brother.

00:07:56.000 Mainstream media.

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00:08:01.000 You want answers?

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00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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00:08:50.000 Last night I went and worked on a film that I'm putting together and at about midnight I got home and my wife had taped Prime Time with Diane Sawyer for me because Mel Gibson was on the show and I wanted to see what they tried to say about the passion and what his response was.

00:09:12.000 And my wife had just let the tape run, so I had two hours of shows on there.

00:09:20.000 And so I just hit rewind and sat down and started waiting for it to conclude its rewinding.

00:09:30.000 And I got impatient and hit play, and it stopped on Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, which is really the Defamation League of Freedom.

00:09:42.000 And it stopped on Mr. Foxman and saying how scary the film was and how scary it was that these Christians were crying and everybody was so silent after he snuck into a screening of it and Mrs. C.F.R.

00:09:57.000 Diane Sawyer said to him, she said, well is Mel Gibson anti-semitic?

00:10:00.000 Is his film anti-semitic?

00:10:02.000 And he said, no it's not, but it's still dangerous. 0.98

00:10:07.000 And I said to myself, what a liar!

00:10:11.000 Because this guy has gotten all over television. 0.94

00:10:14.000 I've read his press releases on this show four or five months ago, where he said, there is no doubt Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite.

00:10:23.000 Mel Gibson is bad.

00:10:25.000 This film needs to be boycotted.

00:10:30.000 And I thought, man, I hope Mel Gibson responds to that.

00:10:32.000 So I rewound it to the start of the program.

00:10:37.000 And, uh, sure enough, Mel Gibson brought up the point.

00:10:39.000 He said, you know, it's funny, these people are saying I'm not an anti-Semite now, and this film isn't anti-Semitic, which I'm not, he went on to say, but they sure have been saying it a lot leading up to this.

00:10:54.000 But think about this.

00:10:55.000 You make a movie about Jesus Christ, and from the clips I've seen of it, I mean, it's very Cinematic, incredible cinematography.

00:11:05.000 I can't wait to see it.

00:11:06.000 I've already bought tickets.

00:11:08.000 And you would have thought Diane Sawyer was talking about pornography or something. 1.00

00:11:13.000 You know, ooh, this is so, you know, this movie's so dangerous.

00:11:17.000 Oh my goodness.

00:11:18.000 And all these people discussing it and admonishing us that we shouldn't be anti-Semitic.

00:11:23.000 And, you know, when we watch this, and well, are the Gospels accurate?

00:11:28.000 And, well, some historians say they're not.

00:11:34.000 And this is in a country where we've got naked people dancing around in gothic simulated orgies during the halftime at the Super Bowl. 0.99

00:11:46.000 This is a country where children's programming is promoting homosexuality, sex, period. 1.00

00:11:54.000 I mean, I don't have to go over how corrupt the media has gotten.

00:11:59.000 But they're not concerned about that.

00:12:00.000 They're concerned about a movie about Jesus Christ, word for word, out of the Gospels, even put together in the same language used at the time, Latin and Aramaic.

00:12:14.000 And so I sat there and watched the prime time with Diane Sawyer on ABC News and she sat there with a dirty look on her face and Mel Gibson would make little jokes and she would just sit there giving him a dirty look and obviously putting him off ease.

00:12:33.000 And I talked to Hutton a few days ago before this aired, Mel Gibson's father, who's again just an expert on the New World Order, we really respect his opinion on this He said, well, I don't want you to talk about this on air until after it airs, but after it does, you know, you're welcome to.

00:12:51.000 They interviewed Mel for three and a half hours, and then ended up, I guess, about 12, 15 minutes, I didn't time it out, where Mel's actually talking on the screen.

00:13:00.000 And he did a great job.

00:13:03.000 I mean, most people, if they talk for three and a half hours, the news media's going to find something damning to use against them, but they were unable to do that in this interview.

00:13:13.000 But Hutton told me that Mel told him that he said, you know, when this comes out, I think I'm just going to go hide somewhere because of all the heat that's been on me.

00:13:23.000 And I think I'm going to hide somewhere where nobody can find me.

00:13:26.000 I think I'm going to pitch a tent next to the weapons of mass destruction, wherever they are.

00:13:34.000 and uh... i think i predicted on the show yesterday without the you know

00:13:37.000 tell me without stealing the audience's lines

00:13:40.000 uh... that that would never be in the peace but imagine being interviewed for three and a half hours

00:13:50.000 and having a condensed down to just uh... you know fifteen minutes or so

00:13:54.000 I'd say less than 15 minutes.

00:13:57.000 But to see Mr. Foxman of the ADL get up there on television and say, no, Mel Gibson isn't anti-Semitic.

00:14:06.000 We've never said that.

00:14:08.000 And this film isn't anti-Semitic.

00:14:10.000 But then, just a few months ago, he put out press releases, you can read them at the ADL website, saying Mel Gibson isn't anti-Semite, Mel Gibson's bad, this movie's bad, it should be boycotted.

00:14:21.000 There's no credibility with the ADL.

00:14:24.000 And I'm sick and tired of the ADL.

00:14:27.000 I mean, if somebody's got real Nazi ties and really is a racist, they leave them alone.

00:14:34.000 But pro-gun groups, land rights organizations, Christian organizations, anybody really out there doing anything wholesome is demonized by these people and I'm sick of it!

00:14:47.000 And I don't think that the ADL and the Simon Wiesenthal Center should be representing Jews. 0.99

00:14:54.000 I don't think Jews should put up with them. 1.00

00:14:56.000 I don't think that Jews should let them be their spokesman. 1.00

00:14:59.000 They've lost a bunch of lawsuits for slandering and libeling people and they're sure to lose more I mean, I've had the ADL attack me.

00:15:07.000 And listeners, you know that I don't really criticize Israel much.

00:15:11.000 I don't ever go after Jews on this show.

00:15:13.000 I go after some of the corruption in Israel, but I'm not going after Jews individually as if they're bad themselves. 0.96

00:15:20.000 But the media moguls and the people that run the ADL and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, I mean, I've seen them.

00:15:31.000 They had a listing called Digital Hate 2000. 0.95

00:15:34.000 And it listed mainstream gun organizations, it listed musicians who we've played on this show, nothing about race, and they count on the public just being ignorant and not researching it and not finding out what a fraud it is!

00:15:53.000 Now, why is the ADL backing off now, and why is the Simon Wiesenthal Center backing off demonizing the passion?

00:16:01.000 Because their lives didn't work.

00:16:03.000 It blew up in their face.

00:16:05.000 Mel Gibson traveled this country from end to end, screening the film to hundreds of large crowds, and when people went and saw it, Paul Harvey and others went to see it.

00:16:20.000 They said, I don't get it.

00:16:21.000 I don't understand how this is anti-Semitic.

00:16:23.000 In fact, the ADL has now injected that into the debate, where if somebody watches it, that's all they're going to be thinking about now.

00:16:32.000 In fact, the ADL is actually creating a overall dislike of Jews.

00:16:39.000 So if anybody is hurting Jews, I'd have to say it's the ADL.

00:16:44.000 I mean, people would have gone and... They made a good point in the piece, one of the pastors they were interviewing, that when Christians see a cross in major surveys, they feel, you know, love and compassion and Christ's sacrifice, and that when they, quote, interview Jews and they see a cross, they feel threatened and that it's, you know, This bad symbol.

00:17:06.000 And that's ridiculous.

00:17:07.000 Also, Mrs. Council on Foreign Relations member, Diane Sawyer, Mrs. Anti-Gun, who's been caught putting out all these stilted and manipulated news pieces, she said, well, what about Hitler? 0.99

00:17:23.000 He said passion plays were very useful to show that Jews are bad. 1.00

00:17:27.000 Mel Gibson came back with the best answer.

00:17:29.000 He's so smart.

00:17:30.000 He said Hitler was an occultist. 0.98

00:17:32.000 Hitler was a devil worshipper. 0.57

00:17:33.000 You know, that's what I say to people who call into this show and like Hitler. 0.99

00:17:37.000 Hitler was a devil worshipper. 1.00

00:17:39.000 Hitler was part of a fool society. 1.00

00:17:42.000 Hitler was part of these show and bones organizations that were founded in Germany. 1.00

00:17:47.000 That's the facts.

00:17:49.000 And 99% of people you talk to don't know that about Hitler.

00:17:53.000 In fact, the ADL and others prance around talking about how Hitler was an example of Christianity targeting Jews.

00:18:00.000 And I resent that.

00:18:01.000 I resent them saying a devil worshipper represents Christians.

00:18:07.000 Adolf Hitler was an occultist. 0.51

00:18:11.000 And you notice you don't hear the ADL going after George Bush and John Kerry, who were members of an organization, Skull and Bones at Yale, part of the German Illuminati, who publicly It's come out.

00:18:24.000 Have Nazi flags and Hitler silverware and dine off of it. 0.74

00:18:30.000 I mean, they were Nazis before Hitler was even born!

00:18:35.000 So, that's the reality, my friends, of how crazy the mainstream media has gotten, where every form of debauchery and corruption and filth can be all over television, but somebody makes a wholesome film A historical film about the last 12 hours of Christ's life, and is demonized for it. 0.97

00:18:58.000 But it shows that the propaganda didn't work, and it's blown up in their face, and now they're having to back off, because when people go see it, including Jews, they go, this is ridiculous! 0.88

00:19:09.000 This isn't anti-Semitic! 0.87

00:19:13.000 You know, Jesus Christ was was a Jew and he was killed by the corrupt 501c3 government-run churches of the day which is what we're fighting today in the Protestant Church and the Catholic Church with all of our institutions being taken over by these people being taken over by the Pharisees of today whether they're Jewish or German or Chinese being taken over by establishment lackeys 0.93

00:19:41.000 So if you want to talk about the primetime piece, you're welcome to.

00:19:45.000 But notice that a lot of what Mel Gibson had to say that was really important didn't make it into the cut.

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00:24:08.000 She called me during the break and said, honey, I didn't take the entire primetime piece.

00:24:13.000 I guess a few minutes of it, VCR was stopped or something.

00:24:18.000 They did leave the quote in about the weapons of mass destruction, which I couldn't imagine how they wouldn't, so I guess I was wrong when I predicted they wouldn't.

00:24:26.000 You know, out of three and a half hours of an interview, only 15 minutes of it or so.

00:24:31.000 I mean, what an amazing quote that Mel Gibson was going to hide out In a tent next to the weapons of mass destruction after this movie comes out.

00:24:40.000 And that quote was in there.

00:24:42.000 So, now of course I don't have it on tape.

00:24:44.000 I have most of the interview on tape.

00:24:46.000 Hopefully if somebody's got it, you'll send it to me.

00:24:50.000 But if you do have any comments about this primetime piece that aired last night, you can call us at 1-800-259-9231.

00:25:01.000 So, again, that's something I'm happy to be wrong about.

00:25:04.000 When I said yesterday that I didn't think that they would put that quote in there, and they did.

00:25:12.000 So, I didn't talk to my wife about the show this morning, and then I was on air going, well, they didn't put that in there, and then she calls me and goes, no, we just didn't record the whole thing.

00:25:22.000 It was in there, because she watched it live when it aired.

00:25:25.000 So I'm glad to be wrong about that.

00:25:28.000 I'm glad that the CFR member, Diane Sawyer, did not cut that out.

00:25:34.000 I'm going to hide out next to the weapons of mass destruction, where nobody can find me.

00:25:37.000 You know, I wouldn't count Lord Bush out yet.

00:25:42.000 They may dig up those weapons of mass destruction any day, though.

00:25:45.000 They just dug up a MiG last week, and I have no doubt that Saddam didn't have some of those weapons. 0.91

00:25:52.000 The U.N.

00:25:54.000 had been to hundreds of sites, declared the sites of weapons of mass destruction, so there are weapons of mass destruction in the country.

00:26:00.000 They just can't use that against Saddam because I have video of those weapons of mass destruction with U.S.

00:26:06.000 markings on them.

00:26:09.000 All right, we'll go to the loaded phones, Jay and Gary and many others that are patiently holding, and then we'll get back into the news.

00:26:17.000 Let's talk to Jay in Colorado.

00:26:19.000 Jay, you're on the air.

00:26:20.000 Go ahead.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, Alex, I was just thinking, when I was in high school, you know about that channel one the kids are watching?

00:26:29.000 I remember they had it when I was in high school.

00:26:31.000 They had it when I was in high school.

00:26:33.000 Demonizing guns, pro-world government, yes.

00:26:37.000 Yeah, I can't remember what was on it, but I remember it all being a lot of politics.

00:26:42.000 So isn't that what they do in them other countries?

00:26:45.000 They can only watch what they want them to watch?

00:26:48.000 Basically, that's it, yes.

00:26:52.000 But it doesn't really matter, Jay, because almost every channel you flip to, you know, has the same propaganda script that they're reading off of.

00:27:01.000 No, I agree with you.

00:27:02.000 I'm just saying, my point is that they're already, they're doing it in this country to our kids now.

00:27:07.000 Well, they're doing it to adults, too.

00:27:08.000 If you watch the nightly news, if you watch the nightly news at 5.30 on ABC, CBS, and NBC, it's generally the same stories in the same order with the same sponsors.

00:27:20.000 No, I agree with you, yeah.

00:27:22.000 It seems to me that we're criticizing these other countries for doing it, but they don't hear.

00:27:26.000 I hear you.

00:27:28.000 Thanks for the call, Jay.

00:27:29.000 Let's talk to Gary in Ohio.

00:27:31.000 Gary, go ahead.

00:27:32.000 Hi, Alex.

00:27:33.000 How are you doing?

00:27:34.000 Good.

00:27:34.000 Hey, a couple of quick thoughts on the interview last night.

00:27:38.000 I watched the piece.

00:27:39.000 I was actually very pleased with the results.

00:27:42.000 I was surprised.

00:27:44.000 I noticed that Diane Sawyer, I swear, she kept baiting him with these kind of questions, like that thing about Hitler and all that, and it's like, Well, you're coming up with some brilliant answers, like you mentioned with the weapons of mass destruction.

00:28:02.000 I wanted to hear what he had to say, but I really didn't want to hear what she had to say, you know?

00:28:07.000 The questions were just, I don't know, was it me, or some of the questions seemed like they were really off the wall.

00:28:13.000 Well, they were, and it was an attempt to try to trap him, and I think that she failed miserably.

00:28:18.000 And I hope somebody's got the full tape, because I just found out we didn't even tape the whole thing.

00:28:24.000 And so, you know, I'd like to have that on tape, that weapons of mass destruction comment.

00:28:30.000 I just laughed so hard when you said that, because the look on his face and everything.

00:28:34.000 Well, you'll see it when you see the tape.

00:28:37.000 I mean, yesterday, and I'm rarely wrong, but I was predicting, I said that Diane Sawyer would probably not put that clip in there, and of course I couldn't tell you what the clip was, because I didn't want to steal his lines.

00:28:49.000 But notice the parts that I did see, that I did get taped, is where you have Foxman saying that You know, they're not saying Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic, and then Mel Gibson goes, well that's funny, you know, all I've seen is these people saying this, and now they're having to back off.

00:29:09.000 So Mr. Foxman is a liar, because I've read his press releases where he said that Mel Gibson's bad, and Mel Gibson's an anti-Semite, and he's sure of it, and there can be no doubt of it.

00:29:20.000 Why do you think the ADL is now being forced to back off?

00:29:27.000 That was a question for you, Gary.

00:29:29.000 Yeah.

00:29:29.000 It must be like somebody's putting pressure on him or something.

00:29:33.000 But you notice they love Arnold.

00:29:35.000 They love Arnold, yeah.

00:29:36.000 Yeah, it's just weird.

00:29:37.000 Anyway, thanks Alex.

00:29:38.000 Alright, appreciate the call.

00:29:40.000 We'll come back and take more calls.

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00:33:10.000 Alright, it's wide open phones.

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00:33:14.000 Let's go back to the calls.

00:33:19.000 Heather in Colorado, you're on the air.

00:33:20.000 Go ahead.

00:33:21.000 Yeah, Alex, I just wanted to say that I admire your dedication to fighting this war.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, I mean, in the media, it's like everything that is platinum and everything that is big on music or movies always has to be changed to the media.

00:33:40.000 And there's like a lot of music and also movies that people are making to try to come out with this issue.

00:33:48.000 Like one is Immortal Technique is a hip-hop artist and he's out trying to get the word out and I just think it's really funny how the media just tries to keep these people underground.

00:34:05.000 I mean everybody in America are social butterflies, you know?

00:34:09.000 And what do you mean by social butterflies?

00:34:12.000 Like, they're like, oh, did you see Survivor?

00:34:16.000 You know, who cares?

00:34:17.000 I mean, I don't care about that.

00:34:20.000 I'm into the issues, the real issues, and I don't understand why the majority... I mean, I'm young, you know, so I'm like only 20, so the people that are my age, I mean, they don't even care.

00:34:30.000 They don't even know what's going on.

00:34:32.000 They don't even care about the election.

00:34:34.000 And I think that's the big problem.

00:34:35.000 I think people would just Research and not only look at what's in front of them and try to actually think for themselves.

00:34:44.000 You know, it would be a better place here, you know?

00:34:48.000 It would be, but I mean, it shows how sick this society is, how psychologically ill we are.

00:34:54.000 There's been this mainstream media attack on The Passion of Christ, Mel Gibson's new movie that's coming out next week.

00:35:04.000 Whereas at the very same time every form of aberrant behavior is promoted in the media and that's okay.

00:35:11.000 It shows how the Hollywood elite and the cultural elite are so far removed from the general public and how they're trying to push their agenda on us.

00:35:22.000 Right, and that's what I'm worried about.

00:35:25.000 It's like The Running Man.

00:35:26.000 You've seen the movie The Running Man?

00:35:28.000 Yes, I have.

00:35:29.000 I mean, it's really scary because that movie was made a while ago, but now that I watch it, I'm like, you know, this could really happen.

00:35:36.000 I mean, these reality shows, and everybody's so sick with these reality shows, and everybody's so absorbed by these.

00:35:43.000 Social, like, oh, look what Janet Jackson did!

00:35:46.000 Look at Michael Jackson!

00:35:47.000 But then Bush is getting subpoenaed because he's not cooperating with getting files about the 9-11 report, you know, and also about his military record, but nobody cares about that.

00:35:58.000 Well, a lot of people do care, but the media creates the illusion that people don't care, so then a lot of weak-minded people kind of pile onto that whole worldview.

00:36:07.000 Thanks for the call, Heather.

00:36:10.000 And there's wheels within wheels within wheels.

00:36:14.000 The 9-11 Commission, two of the members on it have had to secretly testify because, according to the Washington Post, they were involved in 9-11 somehow.

00:36:23.000 We've got one of the Democrat members who left the committee, who Bush gave the chairmanship of the import-export banks to a public payoff.

00:36:32.000 We've got the head of the commission saying that they're not there to find guilt, they're just there to decide what they can do in the war on terror, and so their suggestions so far have been for more government funding, more loss of liberty.

00:36:48.000 So with the 9-11 Commission, they're just acting like they're in some type of fight with Bush, It's more Shakespearean theater.

00:36:56.000 So I would hope that people would see through that.

00:36:59.000 But getting back to the passion just briefly, I'm glad that I was wrong because I said, you know, I bet, I didn't say I'm sure, but I said I would guess, I would place my bets on Diane Sawyer not using Mel Gibson's quote that, well, you know, I think when this movie comes out I'm just going to go hide somewhere because of all the pressure.

00:37:18.000 I think I'll pitch a tent next to the weapons of mass destruction.

00:37:21.000 I thought that that wouldn't be in the piece.

00:37:24.000 And then again, I taped it last night and didn't get that part taped, so I didn't even think it was in there.

00:37:28.000 And then my wife called and said, no, I watched it live.

00:37:31.000 It was in there.

00:37:32.000 So that's very encouraging.

00:37:33.000 And it's very encouraging that Mr. Foxman of the ADL and others are having to back off their slander, their libel against Mel Gibson.

00:37:44.000 Because again, I've read the press releases where the ADL says there can no longer be any doubt Mel Gibson's an anti-Semite.

00:37:50.000 This movie's anti-Semitic.

00:37:51.000 This movie should be boycotted.

00:37:54.000 And they thought that they could defeat this movie, and that the general public would buy their lies, but now that Mel Gibson has tromped from one end of the country to the other, showing people this film, and it's had such a massive effect on Christians, on Jews, on Muslims, you name it, and people are saying, why is the ADL mad about this?

00:38:13.000 They're having to back off.

00:38:16.000 So, Foxman's having to change his story midstream.

00:38:21.000 And that's a good thing.

00:38:23.000 But some of us, you know, are unable to defend ourselves against the ADL.

00:38:28.000 I mean, I've, again, never said anything about Jews or anything like that, and I've had the ADL attack me, and I'm sick of it.

00:38:36.000 I mean, on the ADL website they say, Mr. Jones thinks the government carried out 9-11.

00:38:42.000 And the headline is, you know, what are anti-Semites saying?

00:38:46.000 And then down below it, they've got me mixed in with Bin Laden and all these other people, literally, on this big story they wrote right after 9-11.

00:38:54.000 And it says, Mr. Jones, a popular Texas talk show host, thinks the government carried out 9-11.

00:38:58.000 I mean, I'm tired of this.

00:39:07.000 What they're doing is they're out there stifling free speech because it's a horrible thing to say about somebody that they're anti-semitic.

00:39:13.000 And so basically the ADL is a rental agency for the government.

00:39:19.000 They just rent them basically to go demonize innocent people that aren't doing anything wrong.

00:39:25.000 You talk about defamation, that's what the ADL is all about.

00:39:28.000 And I'm glad to see them having to back off here.

00:39:31.000 And I don't want to spend all day on this, it's just...

00:39:35.000 I've got all the FBI training manuals and news articles and law enforcement publications.

00:39:41.000 We talked a lot about this yesterday.

00:39:43.000 They say, you know, talking about the Federal Reserve is code for anti-Semitism.

00:39:47.000 Talking about the militarization of police is code for anti-Semitism.

00:39:52.000 Talking about a New World Order is code for anti-Semitism.

00:39:57.000 And then, you know, I get on the air and talk about the New World Order, which the Supreme Court and the President and everybody else are announcing.

00:40:03.000 And, you know, the Pope's calling for, and the average person driving along in their car goes, well, wait a minute, I heard that's code!

00:40:10.000 Oh no, it's not code!

00:40:11.000 And making a movie about Jesus Christ isn't bad!

00:40:14.000 Again, I mean, I don't have words to describe how crazy this is, that the media acts like it's, ooh, this dangerous movie about Jesus, ooh, what are we going to do?

00:40:25.000 Oh my goodness, this is so bad!

00:40:29.000 And all the demonization we've seen over the last six months, now they're having to back off because it didn't work.

00:40:35.000 It shows that when we get behind something good and don't turn tail and deny it, you know, like Thomas did, that in the end we're going to win, folks.

00:40:47.000 Let's talk to Roger in Pennsylvania.

00:40:49.000 Roger, go ahead.

00:40:51.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:40:52.000 That was such a superbly funny line.

00:40:54.000 Well, just to make sure I've never found Touche, Mel.

00:40:58.000 I wish I had that on tape, because obviously I didn't record the whole show, I watched it and didn't see that, but I'm glad that I'm wrong, because I predicted, I didn't make a prediction, I said, she probably won't put that in there, but they did.

00:41:11.000 Why do you think they did that?

00:41:12.000 Oh, well, who knows, but also on a lighter note, one thing we must not accuse the enemies of Mel, or the enemies of the Gospel more broadly of, is that of invincible ignorance.

00:41:27.000 Because now finally after what, 20, 50, 100, 1000 years, they finally decoded the distinctives of the Roman Catholic, if not the Christian faith totally?

00:41:41.000 It's just so funny, nobody makes that observation.

00:41:44.000 Perhaps I'm a little bit dense, but I don't understand.

00:41:48.000 Well, it's as though they finally discovered the distinctives of the Christian faith, you know, now that they can finally criticize them properly. 0.50

00:41:55.000 And it's notable that We're finally getting a little truth in advertising here, because she built this panel of interfaith scholars.

00:42:05.000 Notably, she didn't say a panel of scholars from different faiths.

00:42:10.000 So, in other words, these are all, basically, apostates from their respective faiths. 0.79

00:42:14.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:42:15.000 They're merging the religions into this new world religion that Kofi Annan called for on September 12th.

00:42:22.000 He said, we must have a world religion, and the UN is calling for banning criticizing any one religion.

00:42:28.000 I noticed you didn't add to that panel any orthodox scholars from any faith.

00:42:35.000 That would be anathema to her purpose. 0.56

00:42:37.000 What did you think of Foxman?

00:42:39.000 I mean, he's normally pretty aggressive.

00:42:41.000 He looked like a deer in the headlights.

00:42:43.000 I'm glad you brought that up, because I think basically the reason he backed off is now finally that the movie has come out, he better shut up, because he's going to lose even his milquetoast liberal Jewish supporters, because they'll see he's full of it if he doesn't Conveniently forget what he said just a few months ago. 0.70

00:43:03.000 Well, that's it.

00:43:04.000 I mean, that's it.

00:43:05.000 It's easy for the FBI or the Southern Poverty Law Center or the ADL to demonize some little-known person and to persecute them and lie about them, but they went up against Mel Gibson.

00:43:16.000 Mel Gibson went coast-to-coast, showed the film, and Jews, Gentiles, you name it, saw it and said, what is the big deal?

00:43:24.000 Why are they saying this?

00:43:26.000 So, Foxman has really blown his foot off.

00:43:30.000 Lastly, Mel acquitted himself superbly well.

00:43:34.000 The only thing I heard him say that I had a quibble with was about we're all children of God, whereas the Bible teaches that we're either children of God or of our father, the devil.

00:43:44.000 God bless, Alex.

00:43:46.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

00:43:47.000 Well, there's no telling what they edited, too.

00:43:49.000 I mean, that thing was highly edited.

00:43:51.000 A three and a half hour interview, and it turns into, I don't know, how many minutes of it?

00:43:56.000 Fifteen minutes of it were Mel?

00:44:00.000 I was busy working last night and didn't get the whole thing recorded.

00:44:04.000 I thought I did.

00:44:04.000 I guess my wife got it recorded from a commercial point where it looked like the start of it.

00:44:09.000 So I got to put my foot in my mouth, which is a little good thing.

00:44:12.000 Occasionally I do it.

00:44:13.000 I get to announce it on air.

00:44:15.000 But I'm just glad that they put that Weapons of Mass Destruction comment in there.

00:44:18.000 That's great.

00:44:21.000 Mel Gibson is known as a conservative, and they're always trying to make it a left-right issue.

00:44:25.000 Whereas you've got Ron Paul saying the Iraq War is a fraud, and a lot of other real conservatives that have real conservative voting records, but the neocon media only focuses on mindless liberals criticizing the war for the wrong reasons.

00:44:38.000 Oh, the UN isn't the boss of the war, so we're against it.

00:44:42.000 And again, that's all good cop, bad cop psychology.

00:44:45.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Tennessee.

00:44:48.000 John, go ahead.

00:44:50.000 When talking about anti-Semitism, the intelligent thing to do is to define the word Semite. 1.00

00:44:55.000 Every dictionary defines Semite as an Arab.

00:44:58.000 And Ralph Nader is an Arab from Lebanon on C-SPAN. 1.00

00:45:02.000 He said it's time we start talking about, quote, the other anti-Semitism, unquote, of Israel attacking the Palestinians and Arabs.

00:45:10.000 Well, there was, again, a college professor out in California.

00:45:14.000 All he said was, is that some of the Palestinians are being mistreated.

00:45:19.000 And that's certainly happening.

00:45:20.000 I mean, it's a race war going on over there.

00:45:22.000 Both sides are killing each other.

00:45:24.000 And the ADL is trying to get him fired right now.

00:45:27.000 I mean, is this a free country or not?

00:45:30.000 No.

00:45:30.000 Well, it never has been.

00:45:31.000 Nader said a Jew is not a Semite when a Jew lives in Europe or America.

00:45:36.000 Since they don't speak a Semitic language every day.

00:45:39.000 So a Christian who speaks a Semitic language is a Semite, like the ones in Iraq that were killed. 1.00

00:45:46.000 So Diane Sawyer, if Diane Sawyer were a real journalist, which she's not, she would have opened a dictionary and asked Foxman why he uses a false definition of the word Semite.

00:45:57.000 I hear you.

00:45:58.000 Thanks for the call, John.

00:46:00.000 Look, my whole point is, is that, and I've read literally hundreds of articles about the passion That when Jews go see the movie, they go, what's the big deal?

00:46:09.000 I mean, I think it's unfair to let the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the ADL represent Jews.

00:46:18.000 Because, you know, I have Jewish friends.

00:46:21.000 And they can't stand the ADL.

00:46:23.000 The ADL is a tool of the federal government to demonize people that stand up against the New World Order.

00:46:29.000 They want to make it a racial issue.

00:46:31.000 It's the same thing with the open borders.

00:46:34.000 You've got all these old rich white men who want open borders to drive down the wages and to balkanize the country and they finance the textbooks and the flyers down in Mexico for the last thirty years that say the Southwest belongs to Mexico and they're trying to create the balkanization whereas in major polls the majority of Hispanics don't want an open border and they know it's bad for the economy and they know it's bad for America but the media tries to say oh Hispanics want an open border Again, trying to make it a racial issue. 0.60

00:47:05.000 Then if you're against an open border, well, you must hate Hispanics. 0.93

00:47:09.000 Which isn't true! 0.91

00:47:11.000 So, I mean, look.

00:47:12.000 The globalists in Africa will play one African tribe off against another. 0.97

00:47:17.000 The globalists will play Protestants off against Catholics, Catholics off against Protestants in Northern Ireland, while the British government goes around blowing stuff up to keep everybody at each other's throats for a pretext for military occupation in Northern Ireland by the British military.

00:47:32.000 We get into that in the book, Order Out of Chaos, that I published, that Paul Watson wrote.

00:47:37.000 And that's admitted.

00:47:39.000 It's the same thing in Europe.

00:47:40.000 They'll play one country off against another.

00:47:42.000 They play different classes off against each other.

00:47:45.000 This is Balkanization. 1.00

00:47:46.000 Divide and conquer. 0.98

00:47:47.000 It's real simple.

00:47:49.000 And it's time that we stop allowing this to happen. 0.99

00:47:52.000 And whether it's an evil black person or an evil Jew or an evil German running an institution, we need to be able to expose them. 1.00

00:47:59.000 And not have somebody come yelling, oh, you're against open borders, you're against Mexicans, you're a racist. 0.99

00:48:07.000 Or, oh, you don't like the ADL demonizing the passion, so you must be anti-Semitic.

00:48:13.000 We need to stop putting up with this.

00:48:14.000 This is how they control us.

00:48:16.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Joe in Ohio.

00:48:20.000 Joe, go ahead.

00:48:21.000 Hi, Alex.

00:48:21.000 How you doing?

00:48:22.000 Good, sir.

00:48:23.000 Great, thank you.

00:48:24.000 In yesterday's show, I just wanted to comment There's a book out by Charles Van Wick, and it's entitled, Shooting Back the Right and Duty of Self-Defense.

00:48:35.000 And I'd like to read a scripture from this.

00:48:37.000 It's a New International version.

00:48:39.000 Well, for those that just joined us, there was an ABC News report where the big Presbyterian church Up in Dallas, the First Presbyterian Church, we had Pastor Buchanan on.

00:48:51.000 And I went over the Garden of Gethsemane quote out of Luke, where Christ said, sell your cloak and buy a sword.

00:48:59.000 And he said, I've never heard of that.

00:49:01.000 And this whole debate got started, but go ahead.

00:49:04.000 Well, this book deals with the fact that this guy was sitting in a church in South Africa that deals with the St.

00:49:10.000 James Massacre in, I believe it was 1993.

00:49:14.000 And nobody in the church had a gun when terrorists came in and just started blowing Christians away in the church.

00:49:20.000 But the subtitle, The Right and Duty of Self-Defense, and he has a couple of scriptures in here that I'd like to read.

00:49:30.000 Well, two that I'd like to read if I may.

00:49:32.000 Sure, go ahead.

00:49:33.000 If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed.

00:49:40.000 This is in Exodus 22.

00:49:43.000 And one of my favorites, like a muddy spring or a polluted well, is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked.

00:49:51.000 That's in Proverbs 25, 26.

00:49:52.000 You can apply that.

00:49:54.000 Look, it's real simple.

00:49:55.000 It's real simple.

00:49:56.000 If you love your wife and children, you will defend them.

00:50:00.000 And that's what a man is supposed to do.

00:50:02.000 And these people that say that we shouldn't own guns, we shouldn't defend our families, well, they should move to New York or Chicago where the guns are banned and they have the highest crime rate in the country.

00:50:11.000 Well, I call them gunophobics.

00:50:14.000 You know, they're afraid of guns because they don't understand... Wait, wait, wait.

00:50:17.000 They're gun-a-phobics unless it's black ski mask police riding along in an armored vehicle ransacking somebody's home.

00:50:25.000 They love it when Hitler or Stalin or Mao has guns.

00:50:29.000 They don't like it when the citizens have guns.

00:50:32.000 So these gun-a-phobics are just phobic of citizens owning guns.

00:50:35.000 Right.

00:50:36.000 And they'll use anything against us as a pretext.

00:50:39.000 Great points, Joe.

00:50:41.000 Good to hear from you.

00:50:41.000 Bill and others, you're up next.

00:50:43.000 Wide open phones today.

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00:50:46.000 And yeah, there's a lot of news coming up as well.

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00:50:50.000 1-800-259-9231. And yeah, there's a lot of news coming up as well. Stay with us. I'm Alex Jones.

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00:54:21.000 Joe and Ohio and Bill and Marlene, Dominique, Don, Victor, everybody, your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:54:32.000 Two G.I.s and a U.S.

00:54:33.000 civilian killed in Iraq.

00:54:37.000 Roadside bombs killed two U.S.

00:54:39.000 soldiers in Iraq.

00:54:40.000 An American civilian killed in an ambush south of Baghdad.

00:54:45.000 The deaths of troops, our troops, Iraqi forces that work for the globalists are accelerating. 0.96

00:54:54.000 And the government wants to go into Syria and Iran and a bunch of other countries now.

00:55:01.000 And for what?

00:55:02.000 The PNAC documents written by Dick Cheney and others say it's about oil.

00:55:07.000 And it's a real tragedy.

00:55:09.000 So we can get your take on that as well.

00:55:11.000 Also out of the Star Bulletin, I already told you about this, but here it is in another news report.

00:55:16.000 Genealogists call Bush and Kerry kin.

00:55:20.000 Big aisle researchers claim the President and his top opponent are distant cousins.

00:55:25.000 Well, Reuters says they're third cousins, and at the same time, NPR says they're distant cousins.

00:55:33.000 I don't know what the truth is, okay?

00:55:35.000 I don't know.

00:55:36.000 Perhaps we'll find out someday.

00:55:38.000 I do know they're members of the same secret society.

00:55:41.000 Same, admitted, occultic secret society.

00:55:46.000 Generational cult.

00:55:48.000 Also, we'll get to Terry would be the third richest man as president.

00:55:52.000 Third richest president in history.

00:55:54.000 We'll get more into Bush's military records as his lies and new lies start contradicting each other.

00:56:01.000 Also, the militarization of police, this from Business Wire.

00:56:05.000 Surplus army vehicles find new life and error of homeland security.

00:56:09.000 That's right, armored vehicles and tanks on your streets.

00:56:12.000 New scholarship created for whites only, this from CNN.

00:56:17.000 And the university, the group at the university says they're doing this to point out the racism of affirmative action.

00:56:23.000 That's just some of what's coming up.

00:56:26.000 Before I go back to your calls, I do want to remind the listeners that I've made ten full-length feature documentary films.

00:56:39.000 The newest film is Matrix of Evil Exposed with Congressman Ron Paul getting into how globalists run Washington and solutions and who the neocons are.

00:56:50.000 Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who's a Democrat, talking about 9-11 and the UN run white slavery rings.

00:56:56.000 Frank Morales on the police state.

00:56:58.000 Colonel Craig Roberts on the New World Order.

00:57:00.000 Myself.

00:57:02.000 Helping throw out the Patriot Act here in Austin.

00:57:05.000 It's a video full of solutions and full of taking action.

00:57:09.000 It's over two hours long.

00:57:10.000 All the films are $25.95 apiece.

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00:57:17.000 And I would hope that everybody out there would stop procrastinating and would get the videos and make copies of them and get them out to opinion makers in your area.

00:57:25.000 Because if we don't expose who the real terrorists are, that is the military-industrial complex, they're going to carry out more terror Uh, to further expand their global empire.

00:57:36.000 But there's no room for freedom or liberty or family, uh, or your faith. 0.74

00:57:42.000 So the total free number to get the films, they're $25.95 apiece, $20 when you order three or more, is 1-888-253-3139.

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00:58:04.000 us right to me i'm alex jones at three thousand one self-aware mars sweet one hundred

00:58:10.000 austin texas seven eight seven zero four all the people men and parents need to flourish is a good

00:58:17.000 men and women do nothing 1.00

00:58:19.000 when good people stand up and take action evil will falter it will be defeated

00:58:26.000 But if we just sit here and say, there's nothing we can do, nobody cares, nobody's waking up.

00:58:31.000 If we have that attitude, you can kiss your family, your freedom, America, the world goodbye.

00:58:37.000 We're going to enter a second dark age, run by the new world order.

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01:00:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 Alright my friends, already into the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny.

01:00:24.000 I rarely get sick, but it's my excuse for being a bit, uh, I think the operative word is dingy today.

01:00:33.000 I started getting a sore throat last night when I was working on a new film and then I got home and didn't sleep too well.

01:00:40.000 I'm sitting here on air running a fever right now with a raw throat.

01:00:47.000 So just bear with me if I'm not my normal chipper self.

01:00:55.000 I probably shouldn't even do a radio show if I'm sick because, again, I got home last night And my wife had taped Mel Gibson on the national show on ABC with Diane Sawyer, primetime, and I guess we hadn't taped the whole thing, and I'm like, yep, I knew it!

01:01:12.000 They didn't talk about weapons of mass destruction, see?

01:01:14.000 I knew she'd cut that out, and indeed it was in there.

01:01:18.000 So that's encouraging, folks.

01:01:21.000 We've got loaded phone lines, we've got Greg Powell's coming up the next hour, BBC investigative reporter, best-selling author.

01:01:28.000 We only had him on for 20 minutes the other day and that kind of ran short and we had more to talk about so he'll be joining us to talk about Bush's real military record and we'll also get into our government ordering the FBI not to stop Pakistan while they were busy proliferating weapons of mass destruction. 0.96

01:01:47.000 So again, our government attacks innocent countries that haven't done anything wrong, and then helps arm and then proliferate weapons with real states that are threats.

01:01:58.000 So that's coming up too.

01:02:00.000 Also, $58 million in property missing from NASA.

01:02:04.000 Every day or two, I see articles of billions more missing from the Pentagon, or millions here, billions there, missing from other federal bureaucracies.

01:02:15.000 Other federal agencies.

01:02:17.000 Folks, there's $1.2 trillion.

01:02:21.000 It's hard to even grasp that amount of money, but $1.2 trillion over the last nine years, missing from the Pentagon under Bill Clinton and now accelerating under George Walker Bush.

01:02:36.000 So when you hear about $58 million missing or $3 billion missing from the Pentagon, that doesn't even scratch the surface.

01:02:42.000 But it's part of a culture of criminality in government, and we should all be concerned about it.

01:02:47.000 Let's go ahead and go to Bill in Ohio.

01:02:49.000 Bill, you're on the air.

01:02:50.000 Go ahead.

01:02:51.000 Yeah, Alex?

01:02:52.000 Yes.

01:02:53.000 All right.

01:02:54.000 I was just wanting to say, you had a guy in yesterday talking about he was passing out videotapes and now he's looking at a year in jail for doing that.

01:03:06.000 Is that right?

01:03:07.000 Yes, and I've got his number here and I'm putting together the documents and the info in Kentucky.

01:03:12.000 And he gave a cop a video and the cop said, this video threatened me.

01:03:18.000 They arrested him and the judge said, you are guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.

01:03:26.000 So that shows you the Sovietization of the mindset of these people. 0.66

01:03:31.000 Yeah, that's what I was getting at.

01:03:33.000 They do that kind of stuff because they get away with it and nobody ever thinks to stop them.

01:03:39.000 When you think of what Solzhenitsyn said when it happened in Russia when they were coming for people and stuff and how they burned in the camps and they realized they had nothing to lose anyway, they should have made sure some of them died that day.

01:03:54.000 How these cops sleep with themselves.

01:03:57.000 How they go to bed at night.

01:03:59.000 Because if I do something wrong, I have all these conscience pains.

01:04:06.000 Look, I said this yesterday, I have the Law Enforcement Technology Magazine from a few years ago, and it says, if you see a get us out of the U.N.

01:04:13.000 bumper sticker on a car, go ahead and take them into jail, and police chiefs, don't criticize your officers, these people are probably terrorists or criminals.

01:04:22.000 I mean, how does a cop read that and not realize how un-American that is? 0.96

01:04:27.000 Yeah, that's exactly right, but the point is, you know, if no one's willing to stand up when they come to your door, You know, when they come to take your kids, or when they come to take you to jail for passing out videotape, they're just going to keep doing it.

01:04:41.000 So... Well, what they do is... Tell you what, stay there.

01:04:45.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

01:04:46.000 This is very important.

01:04:48.000 Stay with us.

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01:08:01.000 I don't have the words.

01:08:03.000 I don't have ways to describe how serious it is.

01:08:10.000 That if police pull you over at a checkpoint and find a pocket constitution in your vehicle, that they will roust you from the car, claim that you assaulted them, and take you to jail.

01:08:21.000 And we have this stuff on video from squad cars happening.

01:08:25.000 But it's the FBI, the FEMA, the ADL training.

01:08:30.000 And that's why I'm so angry with the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center and others, because they're setting up what could only be described as a Nazi or Soviet-style system.

01:08:42.000 And our caller, Bill in Ohio, was bringing up this point of what Alexander Solzhenitsyn said in Gulag Archipelago, and I have that quote, by the way, at the top of the page.

01:08:53.000 That's our motto.

01:08:55.000 Or Maxim, you could say, that quote from Gulag Archipelago where Solzhenitsyn said, what would have happened when the secret police came to pick us up at night if just a small percentage of us would have fought back?

01:09:08.000 And we are fighting back.

01:09:09.000 The pen is mightier than the sword.

01:09:11.000 A lot of police are good.

01:09:12.000 A lot of military are good and are waking up to what's happening.

01:09:16.000 But not enough of them.

01:09:18.000 And it's up to us to educate them.

01:09:20.000 But then, a listener in Kentucky Kelly Rushing goes and gives a state police officer one of my videos, a video of C-SPAN footage as well, and the cop later pulls him over and says, you threatened my family, and takes him to jail, and the judge says to him, you're guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.

01:09:45.000 Where it's not anti-government, anti-police, it's anti-corruption, as he said.

01:09:50.000 And they'll railroad them. 0.53

01:09:51.000 They won't let the evidence come up before the jury unless things are navigated correctly.

01:09:59.000 But again, the average person just doesn't know how crazy it is.

01:10:04.000 In public schools all over the nation, If your child writes the word gun in an essay for English class, they're arrested, they're expelled, CPS is sent to the home.

01:10:17.000 Well, your child, you know, in a story wrote about a gun.

01:10:19.000 You know, it's thought crime.

01:10:23.000 A few years ago, there was a case in Idaho.

01:10:26.000 Where a black football coach assaulted a white woman who was a reporter because she took his picture at the end of the game and the woman's husband jumped over the bleachers and ran up to the black man and the black man called him a racial name.

01:10:41.000 This was in the newspaper and we had him on the show and the white man called him a racial name back and he was arrested For the racial term. 0.66

01:10:53.000 And the black man wasn't arrested for assaulting the woman.

01:10:57.000 And my point is, is that this is thought crime in America.

01:11:03.000 And they're really trying to set this up.

01:11:05.000 They're doing this.

01:11:07.000 And right now, it's the minority of police that are doing this.

01:11:10.000 Those that have bought the Southern Poverty Law Center, FBI, FEMA, ADL training.

01:11:16.000 Because it's all basically identical.

01:11:19.000 And I've got their handbooks.

01:11:20.000 I've got their training videos.

01:11:21.000 I've had the police on the air.

01:11:22.000 I've got their manuals.

01:11:23.000 I mean, I've got video of them teaching it.

01:11:26.000 I don't want to go back over this again today, but it really is a central issue of how un-American things are getting.

01:11:33.000 Anything else, Bill?

01:11:36.000 That you wanted to add, sir?

01:11:38.000 Yeah.

01:11:38.000 I just wanted to finish up by saying that, like I said, they're doing it because they're getting away with it until Some of them go back in body bags every time they ain't going to back off.

01:11:50.000 That's what I wanted to say.

01:11:51.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

01:11:53.000 I think at this point, the globalists don't care if 100,000 cops die.

01:11:59.000 They don't care if thousands of military die in domestic takeover operations that they've been training for for decades.

01:12:07.000 They don't care.

01:12:07.000 I mean, look at the troops in Iraq, being given the deadly vaccines, breathing depleted uranium at 1,900 times safe levels.

01:12:15.000 They don't care about the police and military.

01:12:17.000 They don't care if we get in a war with them.

01:12:19.000 In fact, they want that to escalate things.

01:12:22.000 The answer is, when they try stuff like this in a town or city, to remove the local government through the election, to sue public officials, to stand up against it.

01:12:35.000 In this town in Kentucky, in Fredonia, Kentucky, everybody needs to get my videos.

01:12:42.000 Say, a hundred people need to get them.

01:12:44.000 Make a hundred copies apiece and put out ten thousand copies where every person in the city has a copy.

01:12:51.000 And put a note with each copy saying, a citizen was arrested for giving a police officer one of these in America.

01:12:58.000 And in America, we're supposed to be able to have free speech, the First Amendment.

01:13:02.000 And if you did that, if 10,000 copies of my film, and by the way, I mean, I know of individuals who've given out 4,000 copies, by the way.

01:13:13.000 But if 100 people got together, And made a couple hundred copies apiece, and then told those that got copies of the films to make copies themselves, you'd have more than 10,000 copies in this county, in this town.

01:13:27.000 And it's only a town of a few thousand people, by the way, so you wouldn't even have to do that.

01:13:31.000 And then people say, yeah, what's wrong with our police department?

01:13:34.000 What's wrong with the state police in our area?

01:13:37.000 This isn't Russia, this is America!

01:13:40.000 But again, if you had real local talk radio in that town, they wouldn't be able to get away with this. 0.88

01:13:46.000 But instead, you've got these neocon whores that tell you conservatism is gun control and open borders, and Michael Savage saying, put anybody who disagrees with the government in a concentration camp. 1.00

01:13:57.000 And by the way, he says that every time he's on the air. 0.95

01:14:00.000 I mean, it sounds unbelievable, but that's the case.

01:14:04.000 In fact, I was on a show for a couple hours in Rhode Island yesterday, one of our great affiliates, 1320, out of Providence, that's carrying the show right now.

01:14:14.000 And the host, Jack Blood, was talking about how they're getting a lot of sponsors, because they'll go out at first to get sponsors and say, yeah, sponsor this show.

01:14:23.000 And they'll go, man, that's a radical show.

01:14:25.000 And Jack Blood will just say, well, wait a minute.

01:14:28.000 A radical show?

01:14:29.000 Have you heard what Michael Savage is saying on the other station?

01:14:32.000 Put anybody who disagrees with the government in a forced labor camp?

01:14:35.000 That's his actual quote.

01:14:37.000 I mean, that's radical!

01:14:38.000 All we're saying is, hey folks, we got national talk show hosts and the media and the Pentagon talking about putting us in camps.

01:14:46.000 This ain't good!

01:14:47.000 That's all we're pointing out here is the emperor has no clothes.

01:14:53.000 We're not radical at all.

01:14:54.000 We get up here on air and we cover the news.

01:14:58.000 I just can't believe how far we've slipped, how fast things have moved.

01:15:02.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Marlene in Florida.

01:15:06.000 Marlene, go ahead. 0.99

01:15:08.000 Hello, Alex.

01:15:09.000 How are you doing today?

01:15:10.000 Good.

01:15:10.000 By the way, talk to Joyce Rowley about that sore throat of yours.

01:15:13.000 She had one and within two days she was fine.

01:15:16.000 Well, I rarely get sick, but I have had some sore throats this year.

01:15:19.000 I don't know what's causing it.

01:15:22.000 What I want to tell you, I was so proud of Mel last night.

01:15:26.000 For the stance he takes and lives, he's thoroughly, truly a believing Christian.

01:15:33.000 And he's been blessed.

01:15:36.000 Absolutely.

01:15:37.000 Every film he makes is a giant success now, and they're wholesome compared to the rest of the stuff we see coming out of Hollywood.

01:15:44.000 That proves that people want wholesome, uplifting films.

01:15:49.000 They don't want the garbage being crammed down our throat. 0.93

01:15:52.000 Absolutely. 0.84

01:15:53.000 Diane tried to put a wedge in there and boy, Mel stood up to her when she mentioned something about Hutton saying they were talking about Jews encamped in the Holocaust during the Second World War and like 6,000 Jews and Hutton seems to think, I'm not sure, I just gathered from what was said last night, that there were less than 6,000 Jews Mel said, you know, 6,000, 2,000, 3,000, it doesn't matter, it was too many.

01:16:24.000 And she started on it again, and he looked at her, right eye to eye, nose to nose, and he said, Diane, don't go there.

01:16:35.000 In other words, don't try to put a wedge between my father and me.

01:16:40.000 Previously he had said, I love my father, I respect him, we get along well, we're really tight.

01:16:46.000 And she tried to put that wedge in there, and he just stood up to her.

01:16:50.000 And I thought, wow, go man, go.

01:16:52.000 Well, I'm really frustrated now.

01:16:53.000 I guess I only got about half the show.

01:16:55.000 How long was it?

01:16:57.000 It was an hour show, minus the commercials, of course.

01:17:00.000 Okay, so... So it was the full hour.

01:17:02.000 She had him for the full hour.

01:17:03.000 Well, a listener called, and the listener said that if I'll just stop asking for a copy of it, he'll send me one, and that's good.

01:17:08.000 But, you know, I'll just stop asking for a copy of it.

01:17:13.000 Yeah.

01:17:13.000 Well, you know, this is what happens.

01:17:17.000 And I've talked to Hutton about this.

01:17:18.000 What they do is, is they put out false quotes.

01:17:22.000 They lie, okay?

01:17:24.000 That's what's happened.

01:17:25.000 And I mean, look, they had, the part I didn't see was Foxman on there, saying that he didn't say the film was anti-Semitic.

01:17:34.000 Well, that's a lie!

01:17:35.000 I have his press release where he said that!

01:17:38.000 It was a month, less than a month ago, he said that I'm in the Orlando area, outside the Orlando area, and He was quoted as saying that in the Orlando Sentinel.

01:17:48.000 Well, I mean, and look, the Orlando Sentinel could misquote Foxman because the media is well known for that.

01:17:53.000 My point is, Foxman put an article out a few months ago, I read it on air, and he said there is no doubt Mel Gibson's an anti-Semite, there's no doubt this movie's bad, and this movie needs to be boycotted. 0.95

01:18:07.000 And so he is a liar. 0.97

01:18:09.000 He is a liar, so the point is you can't believe anything. 0.99

01:18:11.000 All I saw was every time they cut to Diane Sawyer, she was glaring at Mel. 0.99

01:18:16.000 She had an ugly look on her face. 0.52

01:18:18.000 And she was trying to put him off ease. 0.67

01:18:22.000 She was trying to make him nervous.

01:18:23.000 And she didn't do it.

01:18:25.000 She didn't do it.

01:18:26.000 She couldn't sway him.

01:18:27.000 His defense was because he lives what he lives and believes what he lives.

01:18:33.000 Hey, I'm not an anti-Semite.

01:18:36.000 I'm not anti-anything like that.

01:18:38.000 Because being an anti-Semite is against my religion.

01:18:43.000 It's a sin.

01:18:45.000 And I'm not going to commit a sin for that.

01:18:48.000 I hear you.

01:18:48.000 Thanks for the call.

01:18:50.000 I really appreciate the call.

01:18:51.000 And we've got a lot of other callers that want to talk about this primetime piece that aired last night.

01:18:57.000 Basically, what you said is so right.

01:19:00.000 The media is trying to drive a wedge into the public psyche so people don't see this film or so they don't get the message of the film.

01:19:10.000 The media is anti-christian.

01:19:12.000 I mean, that's obvious.

01:19:14.000 It's just, you know, watch a TV show.

01:19:16.000 That message is everywhere.

01:19:20.000 And so, they try to raise this anti-semitism Red Herring, because that's a horrible allegation.

01:19:28.000 But we'll come back and continue with your calls.

01:19:32.000 Wide open phones today.

01:19:33.000 Got Greg Pallas coming up in the next hour.

01:19:35.000 We'll talk to Dominique and Don and Victor and many others that are holding.

01:19:39.000 I'll take about five more calls and I'm going to get into some news, kind of a news blitz here.

01:19:44.000 And then we'll go to our guest, Greg Pallas.

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01:24:03.000 Well, predominantly on the show today, we've been talking about the First Amendment and how it's under attack here in the United States, and how freedom of speech worldwide is under attack, and listeners have been calling in one after another Saying how great they thought the primetime piece was last night with Mel Gibson with the CFR member Diane Sawyer and how Mel did a pretty good job of fending off her attempts at demonization.

01:24:33.000 Let's go back to the calls and then I'll get into this huge stack of really important news.

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01:25:07.000 And I've got another study here.

01:25:09.000 Guess what mercury can do? 0.60

01:25:11.000 It can cause schizophrenia later, and of course brain damage in children, and that's exactly what's in the vaccines.

01:25:17.000 And I have another article from yesterday out of the Associated Press where the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control, tried to cover up their own records showing that the mercury in the vaccines was brain damage in children.

01:25:31.000 But no matter how they try to cover this up, More and more of it is starting to come out.

01:25:37.000 So we'll get into that more after the next break.

01:25:39.000 Now let's go ahead and go back to the calls.

01:25:41.000 Dominique in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:25:44.000 Yes sir, Mr. Alex Jones, how are you doing?

01:25:46.000 Pretty good.

01:25:46.000 That's good.

01:25:48.000 The first thing I want to thank you for all the hard work you do in informing us and the very powerful videos that you've made to help us spread the word.

01:25:57.000 Uh, the question I have is in reference to the Patriot Act resolution.

01:26:01.000 You know, I met you out there at the LCRA building.

01:26:03.000 Oh, you came down a few months ago when we threw the Patriot Act out in Austin.

01:26:07.000 Hey, yes sir, I spoke to you briefly over there.

01:26:10.000 Uh, the question about that that I had is, uh, well, you know, we got the resolution passed, but it seems that the Patriot Act is still being used, you know, freely.

01:26:20.000 But what it does is it puts it in the public record that it is improper, that it's criminal what they're doing, and it causes the government to hesitate and to not legitimize the use of it.

01:26:33.000 So it is a good thing what we did here in Austin, what you did, what you were part of, but I agree, I mean, we have not won this fight far from it.

01:26:42.000 Okay, yeah, because I was just wondering, you know, what else can we do?

01:26:44.000 What's the next?

01:26:45.000 I know you always say inform people, but what else, you know, as far as Well, really, that's what we did.

01:26:50.000 I mean, by going down and having hundreds of people show up, and by having all that testimony, and by exposing what's in the Patriot Act, and by confronting U.S.

01:26:59.000 attorneys, we let them know that we know we're not giving up on America, we're not going to capitulate, we're not going to abandon the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

01:27:08.000 So, that's why, I mean, it's a war.

01:27:11.000 It's putting one foot in front of the next.

01:27:13.000 You know, exposing what the Patriot Act really does is damaging their capacity to use it against the general population.

01:27:21.000 Alright, yeah.

01:27:22.000 You answer my question.

01:27:23.000 Thanks a lot.

01:27:24.000 Have a good one.

01:27:25.000 Hey, thank you.

01:27:25.000 I appreciate the call.

01:27:26.000 Good to hear from you.

01:27:27.000 Let's talk to Don in Tennessee.

01:27:29.000 Don, go ahead.

01:27:30.000 Yeah, how you doing today, Alex?

01:27:32.000 Pretty good.

01:27:33.000 Good.

01:27:33.000 I've got this recorded and I've got the video keyed up now if you'd like to hear it on air.

01:27:39.000 You know, that's funny.

01:27:40.000 The next caller, Victor, says he has it queued up as well.

01:27:45.000 Yeah, I have it and I want to send you a copy of it, so you have it.

01:27:49.000 Well, again, I ended up taping part of the primetime piece last night, but yes, I would appreciate that.

01:27:55.000 I tell you what, put the phone right up to the speaker and let's hear it.

01:27:57.000 What clip is this?

01:27:59.000 This is Diane Sawyer.

01:28:01.000 When she asked him, she was asking him about his series of movies on lethal weapons theories.

01:28:09.000 Leading up to where he makes his statement that he is going to pitch a tent and camp out where he can't be found by weapons of mass destruction.

01:28:19.000 Go ahead and play the clip then.

01:28:20.000 Okay, let me get the phone there.

01:28:23.000 And again, I'm surprised.

01:28:25.000 I know Hutton is surprised by the fact that they did leave that in there.

01:28:32.000 Yeah, I was surprised.

01:28:33.000 I was stunned, but pleasantly stunned.

01:28:35.000 And here it is right here, if you like.

01:28:37.000 I want to get in front of the camera.

01:28:38.000 I like to think.

01:28:39.000 Yeah, that's way too low, Don.

01:28:44.000 You know, I can actually get these... No, I might not hurry back.

01:28:47.000 Um... I might go and... go somewhere no one can find me.

01:28:51.000 You know where that is?

01:28:52.000 You know where it's the place that no one can find you?

01:28:55.000 I was thinking of pitching my tent right next to the weapons of mass destruction.

01:29:00.000 And no one would find me.

01:29:04.000 Did you get that?

01:29:06.000 Yeah, I did get to that.

01:29:07.000 Thanks.

01:29:07.000 Okay.

01:29:08.000 Well, that's what I wanted to do.

01:29:10.000 And I have your address.

01:29:11.000 I'll send you a copy of this, okay?

01:29:13.000 Well, I appreciate it, Don.

01:29:16.000 Anything else, Don?

01:29:18.000 No, that's about it.

01:29:18.000 I just appreciate what you're doing for us and keeping us informed.

01:29:22.000 Thank you so much, sir.

01:29:25.000 Alright.

01:29:26.000 Well, that was interesting.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, that's funny.

01:29:29.000 That's a great line.

01:29:31.000 We'll come back and we'll talk to Victor and Ron and Ed and others.

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01:33:11.000 And the whole show basically has turned into a discussion of primetime last night with Diane Sawyer

01:33:18.000 and they attempted the failed demonization of the passion.

01:33:23.000 And we're going to take a few more calls, and then I'm going to get into some other news issues.

01:33:27.000 And we've got Greg Palast, award-winning BBC reporter, joining us, coming up in the next hour.

01:33:34.000 I was just talking to Hutton during the break.

01:33:37.000 He thought it was a pretty good piece, and so did I. But what else can they do?

01:33:43.000 I mean, it's a good movie.

01:33:45.000 It's a wholesome film.

01:33:47.000 Why, then, has the media been demonizing the Passion of Christ?

01:33:51.000 And this is just a microcosm example of how, across the board, anything that's wholesome and good is being attacked, while things that are evil are being held up as good.

01:34:02.000 But, I mean, basically that's all I can say on the subject.

01:34:05.000 Let's go ahead and talk now to... Oh, I guess who's up next here?

01:34:11.000 Victor in Florida.

01:34:13.000 Go ahead.

01:34:14.000 You're on the air.

01:34:15.000 Hello.

01:34:16.000 I'm calling from Pensacola.

01:34:18.000 I wanted to comment on the so-called pastor from Presbyterian Church USA in Dallas.

01:34:25.000 Yeah, and for those again that just joined us, recap what happened yesterday.

01:34:29.000 Well, basically he's a gun grabber who's using his church to indoctrinate people into believing that you shouldn't have a gun, and he's couching it nice.

01:34:43.000 And they've had seven gun buybacks.

01:34:45.000 And a listener sent me an email yesterday that's a good point.

01:34:49.000 The Presbyterian Church is anti-gun.

01:34:52.000 They're also pro-open border.

01:34:54.000 They're lobbying for that.

01:34:56.000 In Arizona, they're one of the churches helping put the water stations up for the illegals.

01:35:00.000 And on top of it, they're the church that's promoting all these marriages. 0.61

01:35:05.000 Well, when you're saying the Presbyterian Church, He is representing the Presbyterian Church USA, which is the largest denomination.

01:35:14.000 Oh yes, when I say the Presbyterian Church, I mean the big international one that's been getting all the heat for their stances.

01:35:21.000 Right, and they're the largest denomination in the USA, and I know about it because I was baptized in it, raised in it.

01:35:29.000 Our church that I grew up in voted to leave that Well, I appreciate you making that point because we're talking about the Presbyterian Church USA, you're right.

01:35:45.000 Right, and the thing about it is that is the only Presbyterian denomination in the United States that belongs to the World Council of Churches.

01:35:54.000 And for those who don't know about that, why don't you tell them about World Council of Churches?

01:35:58.000 Well, it was originally, they were going to form it in 1937, but their organization got interrupted by the Second World War.

01:36:05.000 They finally did organize in 1948.

01:36:09.000 And they're basically an internationalist organization.

01:36:12.000 If you go to their website, and just go searching... Yeah, the Rockefellers helped set it up, and it's to set up a one world government church. 0.99

01:36:19.000 I mean, that's their own founding document.

01:36:21.000 Right.

01:36:22.000 And ostensibly, it's ecumenical to get all Christians of different denominations to get together and agree on things.

01:36:29.000 But what it really is, is to destroy orthodox or traditional Biblical Christianity.

01:36:37.000 Well, that's it.

01:36:37.000 That's exactly what they're doing.

01:36:39.000 Good points.

01:36:39.000 Anything else, Victor?

01:36:40.000 Yeah, I just wanted to say that that pastor, even in the Presbyterian Church USA, although it's corrupt from the top down, they are required, all Presbyterian pastors in that denomination are required to study Hebrew and Greek.

01:36:57.000 And so when he told you that he had not heard of that Redbird, that scripture of Luke 22-36, He was lying because they have to be smart.

01:37:09.000 They have to be at least intellectually smart.

01:37:11.000 They don't necessarily have wisdom.

01:37:13.000 Well, I don't want to say that we know he's a liar, but it's hard to believe that one of the most famous or well-known sections of the Bible is the Garden of Gethsemane and what happened there.

01:37:27.000 Right.

01:37:28.000 And of course, the Gospel of Luke.

01:37:29.000 So to claim that, you know, I say, well, you know, the Bible says we should sell our cloaks and buy swords.

01:37:33.000 He says, oh, I've never heard of that.

01:37:34.000 That's not true.

01:37:35.000 Well, if he hadn't heard of that, he is unfit to be a pastor in any denomination.

01:37:40.000 Well, I just want to point out that the big Presbyterian Church, again, they're for the open borders, gun control, all of it.

01:37:46.000 Right.

01:37:46.000 And like I said, our church I grew up in became aware of that early on.

01:37:53.000 I also wanted to comment that I enjoyed the interview with Hutton Gibson yesterday.

01:37:59.000 I know!

01:38:00.000 Every time I have Hutton on, people beg me to get him back on the show.

01:38:03.000 We really appreciate the time you spent with us.

01:38:05.000 I was only disappointed on one point, and that was where, toward the end, he was saying that he didn't read that much from the Old Testament.

01:38:14.000 On 2 Timothy 3.16 it says, All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction and right.

01:38:24.000 So I think that other than that, he's on the right track.

01:38:29.000 Alright, well listen, I appreciate the call.

01:38:32.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Ed in Pennsylvania.

01:38:36.000 Ed, go ahead.

01:38:36.000 Hey Alex.

01:38:38.000 Hello.

01:38:38.000 This is a little different subject.

01:38:40.000 Hey, that's fine.

01:38:41.000 I was reading the March issue of Soldier of Fortune.

01:38:44.000 And they took down some heroin labs, Special Forces, in Afghanistan.

01:38:51.000 Yeah, by the way, Afghanistan is now the world leader in opium production, but before we, quote, liberated it, the production had fallen off to almost nothing.

01:39:00.000 Well, these Special Forces guys went in with a reporter.

01:39:04.000 They took down the labs.

01:39:07.000 About a week later, from higher up, they were told to cut it out.

01:39:10.000 Stop.

01:39:10.000 You're stepping on toes.

01:39:12.000 And that was in Soldier of Fortune?

01:39:14.000 March.

01:39:14.000 Yep.

01:39:15.000 March.

01:39:16.000 Which I got last month, but it's a March issue, yeah.

01:39:20.000 I need to get the writer of that article on.

01:39:23.000 Who's the writer?

01:39:25.000 It's at my girlfriend's house right now, Alex.

01:39:26.000 I'm not sure.

01:39:27.000 Okay.

01:39:28.000 Well, I'll go buy a copy.

01:39:30.000 It's at the very end of the article.

01:39:32.000 It tells you how great everything went.

01:39:34.000 The very end.

01:39:35.000 It says they were told to stop.

01:39:36.000 Cease.

01:39:38.000 Well, it's come out in the Associated Press, the San Francisco Chronicle, and other publications that special forces colonels would have Al Qaeda pinned down and they'd be ordered to stand down and then U.S.

01:39:49.000 military helicopters landed during the war in 2001, 2002, on multiple occasions would land, pick them up, and fly them out of the country.

01:40:00.000 We were told by a young girl around here, she's about 16, that her and her friends were trying, they were snorting heroin at the age of 13.

01:40:08.000 This is crazy.

01:40:11.000 This is tragic. 0.99

01:40:12.000 There's so much of that junk on the streets. 0.98

01:40:14.000 It's so cheap. 0.87

01:40:14.000 Well, they're saying that a massive wave in the last year and a half of Afghan opium has hit Europe and the U.S. 0.87

01:40:23.000 And again, the government is involved in the trade.

01:40:26.000 They control the trade.

01:40:27.000 And then they send SWAT teams to bust down our doors in the middle of the night looking for the drugs that they shipped in to begin with.

01:40:34.000 Thanks for the call.

01:40:36.000 Two more calls and I'm going into news here.

01:40:39.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ron in Kansas City.

01:40:42.000 Ron, go ahead.

01:40:43.000 I want to know the difference between anti-Semite and anti-Zion.

01:40:47.000 I believe I'm anti-Zion but not anti-Semitic.

01:40:51.000 I don't believe that God gave that land to the Jews.

01:40:55.000 They took it to the force of arms.

01:40:57.000 The first time when they went in and slaughtered everybody, all the animals, babies, women, children, men.

01:41:03.000 And the second time when British colonists pulled out, Britain and us gave them the weapons And they went in and destroyed a lot of Arabs then. 0.98

01:41:14.000 Well, certainly Jews are from that part of the world, and I don't support some of the corrupt things that Israel's involved in, or arming our enemies, arming Iran, which they're involved in, arming Pakistan, arming North Korea, but the British do it, our own government does it, and Certainly, you know, the whole Zionist movement is racist and is a bad thing. 0.92

01:41:38.000 But I'll tell you right now that if you wear a cross in Saudi Arabia, you're lucky if you just get beat up instead of killed. 0.98

01:41:45.000 So I don't support what the Arabs are doing either. 1.00

01:41:48.000 And I mean, you know, God did give, you know, the Israelites That land, I mean, certainly, you know, that's in the Old Testament, and they are from that area, so I don't know how you can say that, you know, that Jews don't have a place in that area of the world.

01:42:05.000 Well, they were the Hebrew slaves of Egypt, and then the second time, when we gave it to them after World War II, they were just people that integrated into Europe. 0.88

01:42:14.000 So they really, they aren't the Biblical Jews when the Romans destroyed them around the 70 A.D.

01:42:22.000 Those are just Europeans. 1.00

01:42:24.000 Well, I tend to agree that when you look at the Zionists actually involved with Hitler early on and some of the things they've done, I would even call these people Jewish. 0.96

01:42:34.000 And that's what I've been saying is that we shouldn't let any group represent us.

01:42:39.000 If you're Jewish, you shouldn't let the ADL be your spokesman.

01:42:43.000 And if you're a gun owner, you shouldn't let the NRA be your spokesman, because these are sell-out groups working for the New World Order.

01:42:50.000 Well, I'm not saying that I'm against the Jews.

01:42:52.000 world order i think that uh... you've got to use involved in the new world

01:42:55.000 order uh... but i think that when you say well it's a jewish

01:42:58.000 conspiracy fall into a trap

01:43:00.000 but the new world order wants to foster because you've got dot royalty british

01:43:03.000 royalty you know you've got all these elite families working

01:43:07.000 together bring in this new world order

01:43:10.000 well i'm not saying that i would get the jews it's uh... 0.76

01:43:14.000 nowhere in history or even today as to government simultaneously

01:43:18.000 ruled the same capital everybody around the world in our government says that that's

01:43:23.000 what's gonna happen

01:43:25.000 where else in history as to government entities power authorities

01:43:30.000 ruled the same capital what will work

01:43:32.000 uh... let me just let her have you know let me just say this to you

01:43:36.000 we're at war because of what we've done for the jews because that's why the aristotele 1.00

01:43:42.000 uh... sir So you really think Al Qaeda is a bunch of Arabs and you really think they attacked us because of our support of Israel?

01:43:50.000 You really believe the official story, because 9-11 was a government attack, I mean, it's total theater to say anything else.

01:44:00.000 No, I don't believe that.

01:44:01.000 I believe that by trying to talk at this thing about Mel Gibson, the difference between a Zionist and anti-Semitic.

01:44:09.000 See, they never said A Zionist?

01:44:11.000 What is a Zionist? 0.76

01:44:13.000 Hey, listen, I appreciate your call.

01:44:14.000 Let me try to boil this down, what you're saying.

01:44:16.000 And, and, and, if this is what you're saying, I agree with what you're saying.

01:44:20.000 What you have is, you have organized crime.

01:44:23.000 It's real simple.

01:44:24.000 I mean, I'm sure we've all heard of the Italian Mafia.

01:44:27.000 Well, if you criticize the Italian Mafia, they don't say, oh, you're anti-Italian.

01:44:33.000 I mean, this is my view of it, and I've really studied this.

01:44:36.000 Okay?

01:44:37.000 We're not going to defeat the New World Order unless we come together against the New World Order, folks.

01:44:41.000 To try to boil this down, you have, you know, the Italian Mafia, the Irish Mafia, the German Mafia, the big Mafia that's the Lost Mafia that nobody ever seems to talk about, and you've got the Jewish Mafia, you know, Bugsy Siegel and all those people.

01:44:55.000 And so I'm against the Jewish Mafia, and the Jewish Mafia got smart. 1.00

01:44:59.000 They said, you know, we'll call ourselves Zionists, and we'll use this as an umbrella to carry out our criminal activities, and then if anybody criticizes us, we'll say they're anti-Semitic. 0.97

01:45:09.000 Well, I'm against the WASP Nazi Mafia that's skull and bones. 0.96

01:45:13.000 I'm against the Masonic Mafia, which at the top is a bunch of different groups working together. 0.71

01:45:21.000 I'm against the German Mafia. 0.61

01:45:23.000 I'm against the Jewish Mafia. 0.98

01:45:25.000 And I should be able to criticize the Jewish Mafia. 1.00

01:45:27.000 That shouldn't be a taboo subject.

01:45:30.000 And I don't think it is a taboo subject anymore because so many people are pointing it out.

01:45:35.000 But I think that it's a bigger globalist plan to just say, oh, well, it's Jews. 0.54

01:45:39.000 Well, it's not Jews. 0.99

01:45:40.000 And Jews are not the New World Order.

01:45:43.000 Are Zionists a big part of the New World Order? 1.00

01:45:45.000 Yes.

01:45:46.000 Is the Jewish Mafia a big part of the New World Order? 0.59

01:45:49.000 Yes.

01:45:49.000 Because the New World Order, when you boil it all down, is an organized crime syndicate.

01:45:56.000 And you've got different governing families ruling over different countries and different areas and different sectors of the economy.

01:46:02.000 And so I'm fighting organized crime.

01:46:04.000 That's what this show is about.

01:46:06.000 That's what the New World Order is. 0.92

01:46:08.000 And so they've got it set up where if you criticize certain mafias, you're supposedly a racist. 0.90

01:46:15.000 It's like the Mexican mafia. 0.73

01:46:18.000 In the Southwest, very corrupt, very influential, very powerful, and I criticize the Mexican Mafia and their fronts like Mecha and La Raza and others. 0.96

01:46:28.000 Does that mean I don't like Hispanics? 0.97

01:46:30.000 Well, no, of course not.

01:46:33.000 And that message, my message, has successfully been telegraphed to Hispanics. 0.96

01:46:39.000 I mean, they're some of the biggest fans of this show.

01:46:42.000 They understand what I'm saying.

01:46:43.000 I have Jewish listeners.

01:46:44.000 I have every group out there listening who wants freedom and liberty.

01:46:49.000 And so we need to get past labels and fight evil.

01:46:54.000 But the globalists want to use labels.

01:46:56.000 They want to label things.

01:46:57.000 They want to drive a wedge.

01:46:59.000 They want to balkanize.

01:47:01.000 Let's talk to Wesley in Tennessee.

01:47:03.000 Go ahead, Wesley.

01:47:06.000 Good to talk to you, Wesley.

01:47:08.000 Hi.

01:47:08.000 How are you today, Alex?

01:47:11.000 I want to go back to a previous story that I think is really important and that's the story about the man that was arrested for the possession of your videos.

01:47:23.000 I think the bullseye or the crosshairs that they're aiming for is not a particular individual.

01:47:32.000 I think what they want to do is set a court precedent To declare those videos anti-government, so they'll have an excuse to prevent people from buying those videos, making copies, and distributing them.

01:47:47.000 I think that's what this is really all about.

01:47:49.000 Well, Wesley, I have to tell you from looking at this case, this is a small town in Kentucky, Fredonia, and this is good old boy behavior.

01:47:59.000 The cops see the videos, they get mad, and they say, this threatens us, which it doesn't, unless they're corrupt.

01:48:06.000 Then they go and arrest this fella.

01:48:08.000 Then they try to claim he threatens them in the squad car, which he obviously didn't do.

01:48:12.000 So I just think it's good old boy, boss hog, small town corruption.

01:48:17.000 Because, I mean, we've got listeners who give police copies of the videos and the police beg for more copies.

01:48:23.000 That's the normal response.

01:48:25.000 That's what we've seen from coast to coast.

01:48:27.000 You've got this case where cops didn't like him doing what he did.

01:48:31.000 They think they're God, so they went after him.

01:48:34.000 I certainly hope you're right.

01:48:35.000 I hope that's what it is.

01:48:37.000 Well, it just shows who this judge is.

01:48:38.000 You know, the judge says, you're guilty of giving a police officer an anti-government, anti-police video.

01:48:46.000 And so this guy thinks he's God, basically.

01:48:49.000 And so they want to persecute somebody who told them they were corrupt.

01:48:56.000 Well, I hope that's all it is.

01:48:58.000 Maybe I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill.

01:49:00.000 Well, it's a small town doing it.

01:49:02.000 If it was the FBI or somebody, I would say yes.

01:49:05.000 And certainly that's what the ADL and Southern Property Law Center and others have tried to do.

01:49:09.000 They're trying to create a chilling effect where they demonize, enlist gun groups, conservative groups, land rights groups in amongst, you know, the Klan and other unsundry groups.

01:49:20.000 This is the tactic.

01:49:22.000 But it's not working.

01:49:23.000 I mean, look at the passion.

01:49:25.000 uh... it's gonna make now they're saying over thirty million its first weekend

01:49:30.000 it's first week and it it it it's on track to make a hundred million

01:49:34.000 dollars despite all the demonization

01:49:37.000 we're the majority we have the power we just simply have to move against the new

01:49:41.000 world order all of us have to act as leaders in this fight i certainly agree with that and uh...

01:49:49.000 you're in my daily prayers so god bless and uh...

01:49:51.000 let's keep up the good fight All right, thank you for the call.

01:49:54.000 We're going to break here, and I'm going to come back and go through some news.

01:49:58.000 And boy, there is a lot of it.

01:50:01.000 And then we've got Greg Powell's coming up.

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01:53:48.000 Greg Palin is coming on the last 30 minutes of the next hour, so we'll have time to get

01:54:00.000 to all your calls and cover some of the news I haven't gotten to yet.

01:54:04.000 I want to go to Charles in Louisiana, because while we're on the subject of my videotapes,

01:54:09.000 Charles is one of the people that I know has given out thousands of copies, copies he's

01:54:13.000 made of the films.

01:54:15.000 I don't even know if Charles called in about this subject.

01:54:18.000 But Charles, what have you seen happen in your area?

01:54:23.000 Well, Mr. Jones, I got a hassle four or five times on tapes and different things.

01:54:31.000 And I got so scared one time, I was scared I was going to go to jail.

01:54:35.000 So I went into the sheriff's office and I took a copy of, I think it was Police 2000, 9-1-1 Road to Territory.

01:54:44.000 And I asked him, I said, I got to ask you, is this against the law?

01:54:47.000 And I gave him a copy of Vampire 2000.

01:54:49.000 I said, if it is, you need to tell me.

01:54:52.000 He said, I'll give you a few days and I'll view it.

01:54:54.000 I went back, he said, no, you ain't doing nothing wrong.

01:54:56.000 The police have to ask if giving somebody a news article is illegal?

01:55:01.000 Giving them a C-Span video?

01:55:03.000 I asked him that because I was being hassled by the police.

01:55:07.000 Now, how many years ago was this?

01:55:09.000 That was four years ago.

01:55:11.000 About three years ago.

01:55:14.000 Okay, so three years ago you would be... How would you be harassed for giving out videos?

01:55:18.000 Well, he threatened to take my Chihuahua away because I was on a public parking lot.

01:55:23.000 I mean, private property.

01:55:25.000 Selling flags and all.

01:55:27.000 And they threatened... They said I couldn't be in there.

01:55:29.000 Okay, so it was over the flags.

01:55:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:32.000 What was the process like with the videos after they saw them?

01:55:35.000 Well, after he got it, I had one policeman kind of harassed me.

01:55:40.000 For being on church property, giving out dog secrets from Bohemian Grove.

01:55:44.000 And then when a preacher called me up, I mean, a police stopped me.

01:55:49.000 They said, don't worry about it, just don't go on his property.

01:55:51.000 But I gave them policemen tapes.

01:55:53.000 I gave out a tape to the judges in Livingston Parish.

01:55:57.000 I gave out to the clerk of court in Livingston Parish.

01:55:59.000 I gave out tapes to the detectives up there.

01:56:03.000 Every policeman in them two parishes got tapes from me.

01:56:07.000 And they said nothing was wrong with it.

01:56:10.000 Half of them asked me to make other tapes and gave me money to buy blank copies to make tapes for them.

01:56:18.000 Now, what effect did that have over the years of giving them videos?

01:56:22.000 Well, everybody shakes my hand, they call me, I have breakfast with policemen, they wouldn't even talk to me, they're a bulk of them, ex-convicts.

01:56:28.000 They come over, sit over here, and we buy each other breakfast.

01:56:32.000 I got to be good friends with them.

01:56:34.000 Matter of fact, I've been in one of them houses, me and my wife went over to his house.

01:56:37.000 So to show their mindset, at first they didn't know if videotapes were legal, but now they ask you for more copies, now they buy you breakfast.

01:56:46.000 Well sometimes, you know, sometimes not every day, but whenever I buy them breakfast one time and they buy me breakfast, they know my wife.

01:56:51.000 I've been over to their house.

01:56:53.000 What have they said about the New World Order now?

01:56:55.000 Well, they said that, well here's what I get from all of this, they said that the federal government is trying to ruin everybody's life.

01:57:01.000 Matter of fact, a policeman told me, if I get guns, to bury them.

01:57:06.000 A policeman told my hand to God.

01:57:07.000 He said, if you get some guns, bury them, because they're going to try to take these guns away from us one day.

01:57:12.000 A policeman told me that, right there in Wal-Mart.

01:57:16.000 How many copies of my films have you handed out?

01:57:18.000 Well, it's over 4,600.

01:57:19.000 A little over 4,600.

01:57:24.000 And what is the effect, Ben, in your community with the awakening?

01:57:27.000 Well, people are awakened.

01:57:29.000 They talk about it now.

01:57:31.000 They're not scared to talk about it because there's evidence that it's not their opinion.

01:57:35.000 But news articles from the tape, they talk to police about it.

01:57:39.000 In the grocery store, I had coffee with four or five people that talk about the tape and other things, too.

01:57:45.000 I mean, if I wouldn't have did this, if I wouldn't have did it like I did it, I would be scared to talk.

01:57:52.000 But now the word's out.

01:57:53.000 It's in Livingston Parish.

01:57:55.000 I'll put them in mailboxes.

01:57:57.000 Nobody ever harassed me.

01:57:58.000 But I have gotten harassed when I first started.

01:58:02.000 But now, I have a free hand.

01:58:03.000 I actually go into the police station and pass these things on.

01:58:06.000 And see, that's how it works.

01:58:08.000 In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared.

01:58:11.000 In time, when his cause succeeds, the tem would join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

01:58:17.000 And it shows the mindset they first had and how they were awakened to the truth.

01:58:22.000 And the story you've told is a story I have seen duplicated hundreds of times around the country.

01:58:27.000 So God bless you, Charles.

01:58:28.000 I appreciate the call.

01:58:30.000 And if you want some of these videos, go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or call the toll-free number.

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02:00:00.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:06.000 Alright, my friends, we're now into the third and final hour of this Live Tuesday edition.

02:00:13.000 We're about to go back to your calls, but let me cover some news for the time being.

02:00:16.000 CDC knew a potential link between vaccines and autism.

02:00:20.000 This is out of ABC News 25.

02:00:24.000 Five-year-old Ryan Anderson of Jacksonville Beach is an animated happy child, but that wasn't always the case.

02:00:33.000 His course of deterioration from a happy, developmentally Appropriate child to the problems he began to develop started right after he received the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine as Ryan's father Bruce Anderson.

02:00:47.000 Now several therapies are underway to restore Ryan's cognitive and behavioral development which began to show significant impairment at the age of 18 months.

02:00:57.000 Ryan also presents evidence of a persistent active measles virus.

02:01:03.000 You understand?

02:01:04.000 He gets the measles, mumps, rubella shot.

02:01:06.000 He has the measles now in his blood that is persistent and active.

02:01:10.000 Whereas, if you normally get measles, you get it, you get an immunity to it, it goes away.

02:01:14.000 You take these weird shots, you keep the measles.

02:01:18.000 There's weird stuff in your blood, weird stuff in your bowels.

02:01:21.000 This is the standard thing.

02:01:22.000 And you've got this high level of mercury.

02:01:24.000 This is ABC News, folks.

02:01:27.000 Ryan's doctor, Jeff Branstreet of Melbourne, is a specialist in autism-related disorders.

02:01:34.000 He's in clinical diagnostic testing.

02:01:36.000 He has documented a genetic effect in children that Ryan carries.

02:01:40.000 The defect, says Branstreet, made him vulnerable to the persistent and the preservatives in his vaccinations.

02:01:47.000 Preservative is called thimerosal, and it contains mercury, a known neurotoxin.

02:01:52.000 Until just a few years ago, children who received a full schedule of vaccinations were injected with mercury in amounts for exceeding EPA guidelines.

02:02:01.000 Again, we're injected with mercury in amounts far exceeding EPA guidelines.

02:02:07.000 Bradstreet says some children's bodies just can't handle the onslaught of the toxin.

02:02:12.000 Quote, there are children who don't detox heavy metals well.

02:02:16.000 The more mercury we expose them to, the more problems they're going to have, Bradstreet said.

02:02:22.000 A growing controversy over thimerosal contributed to the removal from many childhood vaccines, that's not true, beginning in the late 1990s, but it's still present in some vaccinations, including virtually all flu shots.

02:02:36.000 Yeah, the flu shot they gave out last year, end of this year, has over 200 times the safe level of mercury in it.

02:02:45.000 Documents released to the Freedom of Information Act, we covered months ago here, detail the transcript of a meeting held in June 2000 between members of the CDC and the FDA and representatives from the vaccine industry.

02:02:58.000 The group discussed the results of a February 2000 study that finds a significant association between exposure to thimerosal containing vaccines and developmental issues like autism in children.

02:03:11.000 And then the article goes on, that's just the first page, With the fact that the CDC knew this, but continued to put it in the vaccines, continued to say it was good for the children, continued to allow the vaccine makers to do it, and they all discussed how to engage in this activity in collusion together.

02:03:31.000 So the vaccine makers, the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, knowingly, and this has been going on for a long time, not just since 2000, knowingly allowed this to happen.

02:03:44.000 We've gone from one autism case per 25,000 over 20 years ago to 1 in 168 children now.

02:03:54.000 And it's only getting worse.

02:03:56.000 A plague of brain damage and learning disabilities and autism.

02:04:02.000 And it makes me very angry that this just continues.

02:04:06.000 And still, the average American has no idea this is going on when they demand your children take these shots.

02:04:12.000 You do not have to vaccinate your children.

02:04:16.000 Then they'll say, oh, your child will die of something else.

02:04:20.000 Statistically, it's more dangerous to take these vaccines than to not.

02:04:23.000 Now, I'm not going to give you medical advice, but you better look at the evidence of this, and you better make your own decision.

02:04:29.000 And again, we told you about this years ago, we went back over this months ago, and here it is from ABC News.

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02:08:00.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:06.000 Welcome back, my friends.

02:08:08.000 We've got Greg Pallas coming up from the BBC.

02:08:12.000 Your call's here in just a few minutes.

02:08:14.000 I got a few other comments on the vaccine situation.

02:08:18.000 I was just reading this ABC News story about this 2000, from the year 2000, CDC-FDA meeting, where they admit that they know that the thimerosal, the mercury in the vaccine, is brain damaging children.

02:08:38.000 And here are some of the quotes From the transcript of the meeting.

02:08:44.000 Some of the comments.

02:08:45.000 Listen to these.

02:08:46.000 There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would suggest we've got a serious problem.

02:08:54.000 My gut feeling, it worries me.

02:08:56.000 I don't want my grandson to get the thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what's going on.

02:09:02.000 We are all in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits.

02:09:06.000 Finally, we have asked you to keep this information confidential.

02:09:12.000 And that's what happened.

02:09:13.000 Three years later, the CDC published a study in the November 2003 issue of Pediatrics contradicting the earlier results and clearing, by Marisol, of any link to neurological problems in children.

02:09:27.000 So, they're just going to keep doing this.

02:09:29.000 They don't care and understand.

02:09:32.000 This is a side issue to just focus in on thimerosal as a mistake.

02:09:36.000 See, they can say, well, we've taken it out of some of the vaccines, but it's going to stay in the MMR and stay in the flu shot and stay in the tetanus shot, all the major injections that they give babies, toddlers and adults.

02:09:49.000 It's bad for adults as well.

02:09:51.000 That's going to continue.

02:09:53.000 But it's kind of a side issue of, OK, it was thimerosal.

02:09:56.000 We'll do something about it.

02:09:57.000 We'll take it out of some of the vaccines.

02:09:59.000 No, they've been caught putting other stuff in these shots.

02:10:02.000 You know, this article gets into how these babies, these toddlers, take the measles shot, then they get some bizarre form of measles that doesn't go away.

02:10:11.000 They just have measles all the time.

02:10:16.000 It just ruins the bowels of these children.

02:10:18.000 They take these shots and then they're incontinent for the rest of their life with bizarre living viruses in their intestines.

02:10:27.000 This is being done by design, folks.

02:10:29.000 I have the 1973 Dr. Henry Kissinger's CIA documents.

02:10:35.000 These were declassified in 1992.

02:10:38.000 And I have them.

02:10:39.000 We've posted them many times on the site.

02:10:41.000 They're there right now.

02:10:42.000 And Henry Kissinger tells the third world countries, a whole list of them, if you want IMF and World Bank money, you've got to forcibly sterilize half your population.

02:10:53.000 Then they go into ways to do it through vaccines or through forcing women to have their tubes tied.

02:10:59.000 It's horrible!

02:11:01.000 I've got documents out of Australia, documents out of England, documents out of the U.S.

02:11:05.000 government, going back into the 50s, right through the 90s.

02:11:09.000 This is just the declassified stuff.

02:11:11.000 Can you imagine what's classified?

02:11:12.000 Where they talk about exterminating us, using biological weapons, engineering, race-specific weapons.

02:11:20.000 It's happening.

02:11:21.000 It's going on.

02:11:24.000 But you notice Jesse Jackson and others don't want to talk about this.

02:11:27.000 So the magnitude of all these subjects, I don't have words to describe how serious this is.

02:11:33.000 I don't.

02:11:36.000 There's no way to describe how serious this is.

02:11:39.000 It's just that the average person can't grasp that there are evil people engaging in these types of activities.

02:11:46.000 It's just that simple.

02:11:49.000 Now, I have my call list here.

02:11:51.000 I'm down in Austin, Texas.

02:11:51.000 They're up in Minnesota and I write down who the callers are.

02:11:54.000 I've got a computer I can do it on, but every once in a while I lose my call list.

02:11:59.000 I know we've got loaded phones and I don't know who's up next.

02:12:03.000 Lisa in Michigan, go ahead.

02:12:04.000 Hi Alex, how you doing?

02:12:06.000 I'm doing okay.

02:12:08.000 Listen, we just found out a couple days ago on February 12th that the Nassara bill is not a dead bill.

02:12:17.000 In fact, it was Passed secretly on March 9, 2000.

02:12:20.000 Hey, Nassara... Nassara's not real.

02:12:25.000 Well, it was secretly paid... No, that's not true.

02:12:29.000 That's what they wanted.

02:12:30.000 There's a gag order on that. 0.55

02:12:32.000 And it was secretly passed on March 9, 2000.

02:12:34.000 Okay, for those that just joined us, why don't you tell people what Nassara claims to be?

02:12:39.000 Well, Nassara gives forgiveness of credit card, mortgage debt, and other bank loans as remedy for bank and government fraud.

02:12:46.000 This is the IRS, creates a flat rate, non-essential, new items only, sales tax revenue for government,

02:12:53.000 it restores constitutional law, it initiates U.S. Treasury Bank system which absorbs the

02:12:59.000 Federal Reserve and new precious metal backed U.S. Treasury currency.

02:13:03.000 I don't know much about it, Alex, but they requested it to the World Court as we speak right now.

02:13:12.000 Well, you say you don't know much about it.

02:13:15.000 I do.

02:13:15.000 Well, we just found out about it, but we do know it was secretly passed on March 9th.

02:13:20.000 And how do you know that?

02:13:22.000 I'm going to fax the documents to you today.

02:13:24.000 You mean you're going to fax the stuff that's on the internet to me?

02:13:30.000 Well, they got a gag order on it.

02:13:32.000 Well, Lisa, I'm not trying to be mean to you, but I live this.

02:13:35.000 This is my life, okay?

02:13:37.000 And they came out a few years ago and said, everything's alright, the government secretly passed laws, reinstituting the Constitution, and everything's okay now.

02:13:49.000 Meanwhile, they're passing Patriot Act 1 and 2, all this stuff's happening, and there's this rumor, there's this secret law that was passed, and everything's okay now, and I'm telling you, it's not true!

02:14:00.000 Well, it says that there were four petitions in the World Court submitted by the banking system with the Illuminati.

02:14:06.000 They're trying to stop this, Alex.

02:14:09.000 They're trying to stop this because it's going to make them go down.

02:14:12.000 Ma'am?

02:14:13.000 Ma'am?

02:14:14.000 Huh?

02:14:14.000 If I talk about something, it's documented, I have the bills, I have the legislation, I have the news.

02:14:20.000 Why would the globalists, why would Congress hassle law secretly reinstituting the Constitution?

02:14:27.000 Why would these controlled, bought and paid for, New World Order people, that are publicly passing all this evil legislation, secretly pass good legislation? 1.00

02:14:36.000 Hey Alex, you know what?

02:14:37.000 It seems to be a good thing, but you know what?

02:14:40.000 It's not going to be a good thing.

02:14:42.000 There's more to it than that.

02:14:43.000 After that, they're going to implement a Sunday Law, which is... I'm not real sure if you know about that.

02:14:49.000 Ma'am?

02:14:50.000 Uh-huh?

02:14:51.000 Nassara is not real.

02:14:53.000 Well, I'm going to... I could go... Hold on.

02:14:55.000 I could go start a website, And say that I had Easter bunnies hatching out in my backyard, and that a secret law had been passed concerning the Easter bunnies, and the government was blocking it, and it's not true!

02:15:10.000 It's an urban legend!

02:15:13.000 Okay, a doctor from Mountain Hillsdale County was telling us that this is true, and they're trying to keep it.

02:15:24.000 It's not a good thing though, Alex.

02:15:26.000 They got a gag thing on it. 0.98

02:15:29.000 They got a gag thing? 0.99

02:15:30.000 Yeah, they got a gag order on it.

02:15:32.000 In fact, they said if you say anything about this at all, you're going to face charges of treason and punishment by death.

02:15:38.000 This is what they're telling the U.S.

02:15:40.000 Supreme Court.

02:15:41.000 This is basic craziness.

02:15:42.000 I know it is.

02:15:44.000 I think it's weird too, but I want you to know and I want you to check it out.

02:15:50.000 Don't believe me, I want you to check it out.

02:15:51.000 Ma'am, did you not hear me, Lisa?

02:15:53.000 I have checked it out for three years.

02:15:56.000 Okay, well this is the stuff that's getting forwarded to us and it's in the world.

02:16:01.000 They're waiting for it.

02:16:02.000 They requested it right now and they're waiting for it to process and order.

02:16:06.000 Hey Lisa, I'm not here criticizing you.

02:16:07.000 I mean, it's okay that you called up asking me about NACERA, but I keep telling you that I have researched it and you tell me I need to research it.

02:16:15.000 I'm telling you it's an urban legend.

02:16:17.000 The government didn't secretly make everything alright and give us our rights back.

02:16:21.000 It's just not true.

02:16:22.000 Well, it's not alright.

02:16:24.000 That's just it.

02:16:25.000 It seems like a good thing, but it's not.

02:16:27.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

02:16:28.000 It doesn't sound like I'm going to convince you, so... Alright, you know, everybody's running around going, the government's really good, and they secretly overthrew the New World Order in 2000, and the New World Order is covering this up.

02:16:42.000 If that was the case, this same Congress wouldn't be passing Patriot Act 1 and 2 and Homeland Security and all the stuff that's happening.

02:16:51.000 It's not true!

02:16:53.000 I've talked to members of Congress.

02:16:56.000 This error is not real.

02:16:57.000 Who's up next?

02:17:00.000 Bob in Wisconsin, go ahead.

02:17:03.000 Alex, I don't know if you heard this or not, but last night for about an hour I heard on the radio a gal by the name of Beverly Harris. 0.94

02:17:12.000 Who today is in court in Los Angeles, bringing out charges against the voting machine scam that's going on.

02:17:20.000 Yeah, we've had Bev Harris on about 25 times. 1.00

02:17:23.000 Oh, you have?

02:17:24.000 Yeah, we have.

02:17:25.000 And she's just one of the good people out there exposing that the CIA runs these companies, that it's complete and total fraud.

02:17:33.000 Okay, I haven't heard it on... Excuse me?

02:17:37.000 The thing about going to Mars is a big scam.

02:17:41.000 That money is going to be used war into space.

02:17:47.000 It's going to cost us.

02:17:49.000 Sure.

02:17:50.000 All right, your phone's breaking up.

02:17:52.000 I'm sorry.

02:17:53.000 I'm going to have to let you go.

02:17:55.000 Who's up after him?

02:17:57.000 Tim in Ohio, go ahead.

02:17:59.000 Alex, how you doing?

02:18:00.000 Fine.

02:18:01.000 I said it before, I'll say it again.

02:18:02.000 I can feel your pain on some of these callers.

02:18:05.000 They don't want to believe you.

02:18:06.000 If it's something you've researched for three years, give me a break.

02:18:10.000 Have you ever heard of a website called Burke's Pirage?

02:18:13.000 Uh, no.

02:18:14.000 I was flipping around on there and some interesting things I came across said that Clinton and the Bushes are all part of branches of the Li family tree in China.

02:18:24.000 That's something for you to check out.

02:18:26.000 I thought that was pretty interesting.

02:18:27.000 Well, I know that the Li family runs China, whether it's Mao Zedong in power or the emperors before Mao.

02:18:38.000 I know that the globalists are all interrelated in Europe, and I know there's been some intermarrying with some of the big dynasties in Asia, but I don't know the particulars of what you just said.

02:18:52.000 Earlier, I read the Star Bulletin article.

02:18:55.000 Genealogists call Bush, Kerry, Ken.

02:18:58.000 Big Isle researchers claim the President and his top opponent are distant cousins.

02:19:03.000 Well, like you mentioned before, everyone knows that they're both skull and bone so it's like different masks on the same

02:19:10.000 face yeah they give us false choices and uh... people get fooled

02:19:13.000 by it all the time also on there they talked about thirty four of forty three

02:19:17.000 presidents being uh... related or coming from the bloodline of king alfred

02:19:20.000 and uh...

02:19:21.000 charlemagne well they brag about that

02:19:25.000 And it's true that the Bushes are directly related to the Queen of England.

02:19:30.000 That's from Reuters as well.

02:19:31.000 Sure.

02:19:32.000 And they were Tories during the Revolutionary War.

02:19:35.000 They've been traitors all along.

02:19:37.000 An interesting call.

02:19:38.000 Thank you.

02:19:39.000 More news coming up, then Greg Pallast.

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02:23:52.000 their minions and their allied crime syndicates are up to, one of the best places to

02:23:57.000 research their activities is the business wire.

02:24:00.000 you This is where big corporations put out press releases about what they're up to, what they're doing.

02:24:08.000 I mean, you find stuff in there where Applied Digital wants to put microchips in every child in the country, and wants to put it in all the prisoners, and the Alzheimer's patients, and foreigners, and the general public.

02:24:18.000 You find out the Communist Chinese own them on the business wire. 1.00

02:24:22.000 Because this is corporations communicating with each other.

02:24:25.000 This is their own statements, their own quotes, not just some news article by a reporter with an agenda.

02:24:33.000 Now, for the last I don't know, 15 years or so, probably longer than that now.

02:24:39.000 Armored vehicles in a program of the Defense Department, M-16s, military training, have been transferred to police departments.

02:24:47.000 In the last six years, ground-penetrating radar that looks right through your walls and gives them a crisp image of what's going on inside your home has been mounted on police helicopters by the Defense Department.

02:25:00.000 Again, getting rid of posse comitatus, setting up this martial law atmosphere.

02:25:06.000 Well, this is out of Anniston, Alabama, business wire from yesterday, February 16, 2004.

02:25:11.000 It's on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:25:17.000 Surplus army vehicles find new life in error of homeland security.

02:25:22.000 Now again, folks, they were deploying these long before 9-11.

02:25:25.000 But see, now that's their excuse.

02:25:27.000 United Defense supports Calhoun County Sheriff's receipt of tactical command post vehicle.

02:25:34.000 Did you ever wonder what happens to excess Army tracked vehicles?

02:25:40.000 United Defense Industries Incorporated is supporting a unique solution that supports local law enforcement and homeland security needs.

02:25:49.000 It converts surplus military vehicles into domestic law enforcement units for special situations.

02:25:55.000 A Calhoun County Sheriff's Office in Alabama will soon receive the first of two 12-ton tactical command post vehicles for its emergency services unit.

02:26:05.000 Overhauled by United Defense, the Sheriff's Office acquired a surplus armored tracked vehicle from the Department of Defense through its law enforcement support organization, 1033 Program.

02:26:19.000 In a cooperative effort between the United Defense Industries and the Sheriff's Office, United Defense, the official equipment manufacturer agreed to perform the readiness maintenance work on the vehicle.

02:26:32.000 The Tactical Command Post Vehicle is a member of the M113 family of vehicles.

02:26:37.000 United Defense upgrades similar vehicles at its Anniston facility in a joint partnership with the Anniston Army Depot.

02:26:45.000 By the way, the Anniston Army Depot is a civilian inmate labor camp program where they have a prison right next door and they use prisoners to do this.

02:26:53.000 So, that's part of the civilian inmate labor camp program that we've exposed.

02:26:58.000 Yes, it's a camp, folks, a labor camp.

02:27:01.000 The M113 family of vehicles is currently being used by law enforcement and other first responders in over 27 states and assist in natural disasters, and listen to this, search and rescue operations, counter drug operations, riot crowd control, and other related homeland defense applications.

02:27:20.000 See?

02:27:21.000 See?

02:27:21.000 Oppressing us as homeland defense.

02:27:24.000 Over the past five years, vehicles have been outfitted to perform specific operations associated with SWAT, Border Patrol, U.S.

02:27:31.000 Marshals, FBI, and Forest Service.

02:27:34.000 Oh, the Forest Service!

02:27:35.000 With few modifications from the original design.

02:27:38.000 Some law enforcement agencies that use their vehicles primarily in urban areas have equipped their vehicles with a band track, a one-piece high-strength polymer rubber that reduces maintenance, road noise, and vibration for an improved ride quality.

02:27:55.000 These are large Treaded tanks.

02:27:59.000 They're not just the little APCs that we've seen in past years.

02:28:05.000 And it says the vehicle handoff ceremony will take place Tuesday, February 17th at 10 a.m.

02:28:10.000 So this already happened earlier today.

02:28:12.000 At the United Defense Street Products Facility at 1805 Coleman Road, Anniston, Mr. Jim Walker, Director of the Alabama Department of Homeland Security, and Mr. Don Sherrod, President of the National Law Enforcement Support Association, will speak at the event.

02:28:28.000 And this is just one of many companies doing this.

02:28:31.000 APD has three of these.

02:28:34.000 The Sheriff's Department, I think, has one now.

02:28:37.000 The State Police here in Austin, I know, have four of them.

02:28:40.000 I've got video of them.

02:28:42.000 And that was years ago.

02:28:44.000 And so here they are, Homeland Security.

02:28:47.000 Giving the tanks to local police.

02:28:49.000 Homeland Security.

02:28:50.000 The end of posse comitatus.

02:28:51.000 They say they want to put troops on the streets.

02:28:53.000 They say after another attack, we go to martial law.

02:28:57.000 And I know I've been repeating that a lot lately.

02:29:00.000 It is such a big deal.

02:29:03.000 But, uh, just hit in plain view.

02:29:05.000 Riot.

02:29:06.000 Crowd control with their tanks.

02:29:08.000 That's what Homeland Security is all about.

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02:29:17.000 Army Intelligence dropped by the law school and demanded a list of everyone attending the UT Law School meeting.

02:29:26.000 And they just said, Army Intelligence, our job is now watching the students.

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02:32:44.000 You know, I've made three films on the police state.

02:32:58.000 I've been to the urban warfare training drills where the troops are training with role players that are yelling, I'm an American, oh please don't put me in the camp, don't take my guns.

02:33:08.000 But now we have top generals saying this is the next step.

02:33:11.000 We have homeland security minions, you know, at ceremonies handing tanks over to police departments and saying this is for your homeland security duty.

02:33:23.000 You know, suppressing dissent, going after, you know, crowds.

02:33:29.000 It's horrible!

02:33:30.000 What is it the government has planned that's so horrible they know that we're going to physically resist them? 0.99

02:33:35.000 I mean, we've put up with all the other garbage, peacefully, in the past. 0.69

02:33:40.000 What is it they've got planned that they know is so bad we're going to physically resist?

02:33:45.000 Well, I'll tell you, it's taking your pension funds, it's blowing out the economy, it's super inflation when people realize what's happened to the dollar.

02:33:54.000 They're gearing up for a massive crackdown, and it's so sad to see this happening and to see the police brainwashed into an us-against-them mentality.

02:34:04.000 Now, let's go ahead and talk to Leon in Colorado.

02:34:06.000 We're getting Greg Powell's phone right now.

02:34:08.000 Leon, go ahead.

02:34:10.000 Yeah, Alex, thanks for taking my call.

02:34:13.000 I just wanted to ask a question about this guy that was arrested by this state patrolman.

02:34:20.000 Doesn't he have some, his family or somebody should file some charges of treason against this police, what is he, state policeman and the judge for violating his constitutional Well, you can certainly get official oppression.

02:34:41.000 where you can i'll go to prison charges against the guy well you can

02:34:45.000 certainly get official oppression

02:34:47.000 and for those who just joined us a listener kelly are rushing

02:34:53.000 and uh... for don't even talk to you gave a copy of one of my videos and a copy of a c-span

02:34:58.000 interview will pop in the top part was threatening and so later

02:35:02.000 pulled him over arrested The judge said, you're guilty of giving anti-government, anti-police videos to a police officer.

02:35:09.000 And so they're charging him with threatening police, and the video has nothing threatening in it.

02:35:13.000 But that just shows their mindset.

02:35:15.000 I mean, look, it's not just patriots they're doing this to.

02:35:18.000 We live in a country where 58 black people In Tulia, Texas, on the word of one cop who was being paid as an informant, they all got 20 to 90 years in prison, no drugs, no paraphernalia, and the governor had to pardon them. 0.98

02:35:32.000 This is just the wildness, the out-of-control, the out-of-control corruption.

02:35:37.000 It's madness, is what it is.

02:35:38.000 It is, and we're going to be getting... Yeah, well then, the other thing is, you were talking about, you know, the earlier, about, oh, the Anti-Defamation League and And also included in all of those is, you know, that Southern Poverty Law guy under D's or whatever his name is.

02:35:56.000 Yeah, Morris D's.

02:35:57.000 All of those organizations, if you follow the money, they're all funded by the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation.

02:36:06.000 All of them are a bunch of minions for the globalists.

02:36:11.000 I gotta let you go.

02:36:13.000 We've got our guest, sir.

02:36:14.000 I appreciate it.

02:36:16.000 Yeah, and they go after left-wing groups, right-wing groups, everybody, and demonize them, and it's wrong.

02:36:21.000 Joining us is Greg Pallast.

02:36:24.000 He's a Newsnight investigative reporter with the BBC, New York Times best-selling author of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

02:36:32.000 I wanted to get him back on to finish up some of the news we were covering a few days ago last week.

02:36:37.000 Greg, good to have you on the show.

02:36:38.000 Alex, always a special treat to be with you.

02:36:43.000 A lot's happening, Greg.

02:36:45.000 This whole thing about Bush's military records.

02:36:47.000 I mean, the records clearly show that he disappeared.

02:36:50.000 We have all these witnesses at the guard saying he was never there.

02:36:55.000 Then they pull out some Bush minion who was with Bush at the big race car race this weekend.

02:37:03.000 And he says, oh no, Bush was there.

02:37:05.000 What's really going on, Greg?

02:37:08.000 Well, what's really going on is I went down to Texas myself and investigated Bush's war record, or lack thereof, for BBC television.

02:37:17.000 And I met with officers, I went to the Air Guard, and by the way, I've got to tell you, I thought that they were going to give me a big hassle.

02:37:25.000 I've got to tell you, those Air Guard guys are a little bit peeved off that they're not so crazy about all these rich kids that were given the top jobs at the Air Guard to get out of Vietnam.

02:37:36.000 The Texas Air Guard today is on active duty in Iraq and around the world.

02:37:39.000 Well it was in the Associated Press just last Friday that in the late nineties the guard right here at Camp Mabry in Austin was ordered to cover up Bush's records.

02:37:48.000 That's correct and so I went to Camp Mabry and I met with your guard people in Austin but I was also able to get a hold of a document from inside the U.S.

02:37:59.000 Justice Department from a whistleblower who explained exactly who made the call There was a big-time lobbyist who was not... Lieutenant Governor Ben Barnes was the power in Texas in the 60s during the war.

02:38:16.000 And while he was a Democrat, he had really good relations with Congressman George Bush Sr., then the head of the Republican Party nationwide.

02:38:27.000 And he had another lobbyist whom I spoke with.

02:38:32.000 Whom I spoke with, whose name, unfortunately, I can't give out, but in front of, he did this on camera, but I'm not allowed to show the camera film, but this is confirmed by BBC, who said, yes, I picked up the, I called the Texas Air Guard at the request of Ben Barnes, specifically was making the request for Congressman George Bush to get his son out of Vietnam and into the Texas Air Guard.

02:39:02.000 He took a test, George W., and he scored in the 25th percentile out of 100.

02:39:09.000 That means that 75% of the kids that took the Air Guard test to become a pilot, 75% scored higher than he did.

02:39:16.000 He's the only guy Who got the job.

02:39:19.000 He leaped the line ahead of 75%.

02:39:22.000 Got the job in the Texas Air Guard.

02:39:23.000 That got him out of the draft.

02:39:25.000 He was just days away from being drafted and sent off to NAMM.

02:39:31.000 Now here's the creepy part of it.

02:39:33.000 You can actually see part of this letter that was in the U.S.

02:39:38.000 Justice Department offices, which was buried.

02:39:41.000 The creepy part of it is that That in order to cover this fact up during the race for governor of Texas, George W. was running against Ann Richards, who was the incumbent.

02:39:55.000 It was a tight race.

02:39:57.000 George's war record came up.

02:40:00.000 And when this information came through, then this information came through that in fact the fix was in to get young Georgie out of the military at his daddy's, his congressman daddy's, because don't forget George Sr.

02:40:11.000 voted to send other men's sons to Vietnam, just not his own son.

02:40:15.000 And so did his grandfather, Prescott, who was a U.S.

02:40:17.000 Senator, voted to send other men's grandsons to Vietnam, but again, not his own grandson.

02:40:26.000 At the time, one of the big clients of Ben Barnes was a lottery company, G-Tech, which now runs the Texas State Lottery, earns them about a billion dollars a year, this corporation.

02:40:38.000 And the word, Ben Barnes, someone associated with him called the governor's office and reminded the governor's office of what Barnes knew about the record.

02:40:48.000 This is according to the informant.

02:40:51.000 And suddenly, G-Tech Corporation, which was about to lose, which had been removed for corruption from the texas lottery contract removed for corruption was given the contract back without a bit to run the texas state lottery and uh... in other words

02:41:10.000 Basically, nothing would be said about young George's war record and how he got out of Vietnam.

02:41:16.000 A billion dollar a year payoff.

02:41:19.000 Boy, I tell you, that was a good investment.

02:41:20.000 It's your money.

02:41:21.000 It's worth it.

02:41:23.000 But you know, I mean, this is, you have to understand, this is now, you have to understand, this story of, and then plus the missing days of pay.

02:41:32.000 As you know, we did, I spoke with a Texas Air Guard Lieutenant, a guy named Burkett, He had been in the office when one of the generals received a call from the governor's office that Karen Hughes was coming in to look at the Texas Air Guard records and she hoped that there'd be nothing embarrassing there.

02:42:00.000 And basically then he overheard this and he asked some of the officers, are we saying that we're going to file?

02:42:09.000 You know, purged the files, and they said, well, what do you think?

02:42:12.000 And sure enough, he saw pension records with George Bush's name in the trash that was about to be shredded.

02:42:20.000 And he didn't pick it, he didn't grab it out of the trash, so he can't say what the dates were on those records.

02:42:25.000 He just saw the Governor George Bush's records in the trash.

02:42:32.000 Now, why would they cover that up?

02:42:33.000 As we now know, the pay records are coming out and there's huge gaps, even a five-month gap in which he wasn't paid.

02:42:41.000 Well, yesterday they had all the media in there at a press conference and wouldn't let him leave with the documents.

02:42:46.000 Oh, we've released it, but you can't leave with it.

02:42:49.000 And then last week, the pay stubs they gave out are illegible.

02:42:53.000 You can't even read them.

02:42:54.000 Well, there's one other problem, too, is that there's a sloppiness in his pace.

02:42:58.000 It doesn't say, for example, if there were other days when he was called to drill and didn't show.

02:43:04.000 Now, according to the people we went to, if that happened, it looks like the evidence is tending that way, that he just didn't show.

02:43:11.000 A no-show, if you're AWOL, in effect, by not showing up for the drill, the lieutenant that we spoke to said, yeah, he had a couple of other guys who did that.

02:43:22.000 Bush was not in his unit.

02:43:24.000 He said, and the price is pretty severe.

02:43:26.000 You lost your position in the air guard and it's off to Vietnam to you.

02:43:30.000 And except, unless I guess you're a congressman's son.

02:43:34.000 And so once again, we, it's an issue of privilege.

02:43:37.000 I don't want to get, you know, I know my, my good friend Michael Moore said that Bush had deserted.

02:43:42.000 It's not, it's not desertion.

02:43:43.000 You're talking about a mis, you're talking about a daddy, he's a very powerful congressman, head of the Republican Party, misuse of privilege.

02:43:51.000 And, of course, this terrible business when it starts falling apart where suddenly contracts are given out by the state in a manner that advantages those that are holding this information.

02:44:01.000 Yeah, I mean, Bush on Meet the Press a few weeks ago with Tim Russert says, well, the military gave me my honorable discharge.

02:44:12.000 They don't just do that unless you've done a good job.

02:44:14.000 Well, that's not true.

02:44:16.000 I mean, that's what Like a king giving his son a pardon that still means that the individual did wrong.

02:44:24.000 And my whole point about this story is that they've been covering it up, they've been lying, the eyewitnesses have come forward, we know what happened, and this wouldn't be happening to Bush if he hadn't been prancing around on aircraft carriers talking about what a fighter ace he is.

02:44:41.000 I wasn't the first guy to volunteer for Vietnam myself, but on the other hand, my daddy didn't vote to send other men's sons to Vietnam, my grandfather did not vote to send other men's sons to Vietnam, and my father didn't make a call to politicians to get me out of the service.

02:44:57.000 Well, it was quoted in the Memphis newspaper out of Alabama last week, and they had a bunch of different witnesses there.

02:45:05.000 They were told, yeah, some rich kid's coming, and they were all waiting for him to show up.

02:45:09.000 They said they wanted to party with him, and he never showed up.

02:45:11.000 He was never there.

02:45:13.000 Well, if you go to my website, www.GregPalast.com, that's G-R-E-G-P-A-L-A-S-T, I see that I actually have This document from inside the Justice Department, my staff has loaded it up for the Alex Jones listeners.

02:45:32.000 if you go to gregpalast.com and you type in Bush and Air Guard, you'll get to an article

02:45:49.000 which is called President Top Gun.

02:45:59.000 And there's a link in it which will get you actually to this Justice Department document.

02:46:02.000 It's pretty sorrowful stuff, because I'm looking at it right now.

02:46:07.000 But the media has this.

02:46:08.000 I mean, the Associated Press, Reuters, other publications have the facts that they're lying, but then by the time it gets to the nightly news, it's, well, there's still questions, and we don't know what the truth is, but we do know what the truth is.

02:46:22.000 Right, we do know what the truth is, except that there's one other thing, is that what hasn't come out in America, and you have to understand that my report for the BBC has been played all over the world, my film on George Bush, dodging the draft, paying off people to cover it up, that this information was put on the nightly news in Britain now seven times in the past year, and I couldn't get it into the United States press for nothing.

02:46:46.000 This is top of the nightly news.

02:46:47.000 So you have to understand that we're asking the rest of the world to go to war with us.

02:46:51.000 And the rest of the world is watching a report on my television show saying, this guy's sending your kids to wherever he's going next, Iraq or whatever, but you know, he wasn't exactly ready to jump on the bandwagon himself.

02:47:04.000 He'd rather be a kind of pretend Tom Cruise in, you know, saving Houston from a Viet Cong attack. 0.92

02:47:11.000 Now, again, the guy's in the air guard today.

02:47:13.000 Now, you know, by the way, he hasn't hesitated to send Our president to send his own air guard unit, which before was a party unit.

02:47:20.000 Well, what about this tactic?

02:47:22.000 Greg, what about this tactic he used to meet the press that I think is despicable?

02:47:26.000 Now, don't you criticize the guard?

02:47:28.000 He just brought that into it as if that had something to do with it.

02:47:31.000 No one's criticizing the guard.

02:47:33.000 We're talking about his record and he tries to turn it into, hey, don't you talk bad about the guard.

02:47:38.000 Yeah, in fact, you have to understand that guard people, when I was in Austin, We're very upset about this business because they are very proud of the card and they don't like the fact that they were used as a dumping ground for rich kids.

02:47:52.000 John Connolly's son, the other governor's son, was there.

02:47:55.000 Lloyd Benson's kid, Senator Lloyd Benson, Democrats and Republicans.

02:47:59.000 This became a dumping off point for the ultra-rich and the ultra-connected of Texas to get their kids out of Vietnam.

02:48:06.000 Now, I don't blame anyone for doing that, but please don't send other kids Well, don't stand around and then lie about it.

02:48:11.000 And don't stand around and lie about it.

02:48:38.000 And don There are guys who died making that landing.

02:48:41.000 There are guys who died and were shot down over Hanoi after taking off from those jets.

02:48:48.000 It won't come back.

02:48:49.000 This is not supposed to be for stunts.

02:48:51.000 This is not a political cartoon.

02:48:53.000 It's not a political advertisement.

02:48:55.000 This is our armed forces.

02:48:57.000 This guy was in tears, I've got to tell you.

02:49:00.000 We've got all these neocons on the air calling us liars because we're just laying out the facts here.

02:49:06.000 You know, all I'm trying to do is, I'm not trying to disparage, you know, first of all, we don't disparage the Guard.

02:49:14.000 I mean, that's really, that's absurd.

02:49:17.000 The Guard is out there right now in combat.

02:49:21.000 We're talking about a kid who used his daddy's Rolodex to get himself out of Vietnam and then ran around saying how much everyone ought to go to Vietnam.

02:49:31.000 He was a big booster of the war when he was a kid at Yale.

02:49:34.000 You know, don't forget, he got into Yale because his grandfather, he had terrible grades, but his grandfather was on the board of Yale.

02:49:41.000 What do you think of John Kerry and Bush, I mean, this skull and bones presidency?

02:49:47.000 Well, you know, let's face it, there's a nice little privileged clique up there, and at least I'll say one thing for Kerry, he had the privileges and his daddy could have made the call to get him out, and he didn't.

02:50:01.000 You know, there's still a couple of very privileged rich kids who don't hesitate from using their privileges, but at least I'll say for Kerry, and again, I'm not endorsing any candidates, and I don't care which of these guys wins, God knows what we're going to get out of it, but he didn't have his daddy make the call to get him out.

02:50:21.000 And also, he didn't run around saying that those who question the misuse of privilege are somehow attacking the patriotism of those who serve.

02:50:33.000 Yeah, that was really low-handed.

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02:54:01.000 Got a few final issues here we want to go over with Greg Pallas.

02:54:04.000 Greg, you've got a new CD slash video out.

02:54:08.000 That goes over a lot of what we've been discussing here on the show.

02:54:12.000 It's great stuff.

02:54:14.000 Folks can get a copy of that at gregpalast.com, can't they?

02:54:17.000 Right.

02:54:17.000 It's called Weapon of Mass Destruction, Greg Palast, live and uncensored.

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02:54:31.000 A lot of it's pretty funny, actually.

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02:55:02.000 How can Bush call himself a conservative when the government's grown by 45% while he's doing all these unconservative things?

02:55:10.000 Well, a very big government.

02:55:11.000 In fact, what I'm writing now for Rolling Stone Magazine is an investigation into basically the use of privatized CIA operations that he's running.

02:55:24.000 We're creating a new national DNA database, which they say they aren't, but I have the information that they are.

02:55:30.000 They really are setting up a dictatorship.

02:55:33.000 And they want you to love it.

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02:55:51.000 By the way, Greg, when they take your blood at birth, part of that does go for a blood test.

02:55:56.000 The other ampule goes to the federal government.

02:55:58.000 I can get you some documentation on that.

02:56:00.000 They've already got the federal DNA database.

02:56:02.000 You know, this is what we need to have.

02:56:03.000 And I've got to tell you this.

02:56:05.000 So what I'm looking at now is I've got insiders from this company who are blowing the whistle on this stuff.

02:56:13.000 It is against the law, and the law being the United States Constitution, but specific executive orders issued by Bill Clinton and even Richard Nixon, saying that the FBI cannot and CIA cannot keep Computer files on Americans who are not under suspicion of having caused a crime.

02:56:31.000 But C.A.P.S.

02:56:32.000 2 legitimizes and institutionalizes that, and these are the type of issues that you report on on a regular basis.

02:56:39.000 That's right, and what they're doing is, the way they're getting around this, they're having private companies keep these databases, and they're saying, well, we're not, the FBI's not keeping it, Homeland Security's not keeping this stuff, it's a private company.

02:56:51.000 And therefore, we can then just access their databases.

02:56:54.000 Well, that's even more dangerous, because we don't know... Greg, what's happening real quick in the last minute or so here with the Pakistan situation, with Bush blocking the investigations of this scientist who's arming all these people?

02:57:05.000 Well, we've got a big problem here, because as you know, I reported BBC two years ago, and now finally coming out here, that Pakistan was running a flea market in nuclear fission materials and nuclear bomb plants. 0.92

02:57:19.000 Telling it to Libya, North Korea, Iran.

02:57:21.000 We don't know where else, and I have from FBI, from CIA, the statement that Bush blocked these investigations two years ago.

02:57:32.000 Once again, it goes back to our friends, the Saudis, who've been funding these Islamic Prom programs, and that just embarrasses The Bush Administration.

02:57:41.000 Absolutely.

02:57:42.000 And then if there's more terror attacks, we just get more control.

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