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00:00:27.000 It's now Thursday, the 26th day of February 04.

00:00:33.000 I saw The Passion of the Christ last night.

00:00:38.000 It was an excellent film and I'll give you my review of it.

00:00:43.000 In fact, we're going to open the phones up in the second segment of the show here in about seven minutes.

00:00:49.000 We're going to go right to your calls for those that have seen The Passion or would like to comment on the media spin about the film.

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00:01:06.000 Just talking to Scott who is running the show.

00:01:12.000 He saw a pre-screening of it last night and said he thought it was a great film.

00:01:17.000 I mean, there are many movies that are, quote, more violent.

00:01:21.000 You know, hundreds of people being killed, demons ripping people's guts out.

00:01:26.000 The passion is historical.

00:01:28.000 You know, they had a rabbi on television on Scarborough country going, this is historical. 0.98

00:01:34.000 The Jewish historians, the Roman historians told the same story.

00:01:39.000 This is what happened to the most famous individual in world history, Jesus Christ.

00:01:48.000 And that's what the cater nine-tails did to people. 1.00

00:01:53.000 And that's what his body looked like.

00:01:56.000 That's what happened.

00:01:58.000 And there were maybe two or three things in there that were license of the writers, Mel Gibson, and the director, Mel Gibson.

00:02:07.000 You know, there wasn't really a crow there, you know, trying to pull the eyeball out of one of the people on the cross.

00:02:13.000 But other than that, just a few other things.

00:02:16.000 Just amazing film, very moving.

00:02:20.000 You don't have a heart if you don't cry.

00:02:23.000 I mean, I couldn't help it.

00:02:25.000 I just love I love Jesus Christ.

00:02:33.000 But even if I wasn't a Christian, it would have brought me to tears.

00:02:37.000 I saw a 3.30 showing.

00:02:39.000 It was jam-packed.

00:02:40.000 The entire theater was full.

00:02:43.000 Not a seat open in there.

00:02:44.000 And the numbers are coming in.

00:02:48.000 Looks like it made, they're not sure, 18 to 30 million yesterday.

00:02:54.000 A record box office opening.

00:02:58.000 And Mel Gibson says he may make, he told Variety, he may make more biblically based films.

00:03:05.000 You ought to make one about 70 A.D.

00:03:08.000 the destruction of Jerusalem.

00:03:09.000 Or maybe make one in 64 A.D.

00:03:14.000 or 66 A.D.

00:03:16.000 with Nero burning Rome and the Christians and the lions and the gladiators. 0.98

00:03:20.000 That would be a powerful film.

00:03:24.000 Or a re-do of the Ten Commandments.

00:03:27.000 Or any of it.

00:03:29.000 Maybe a re-do of Ben-Hur.

00:03:33.000 I don't want to upset the ADL, because I love all those movies.

00:03:40.000 I will briefly talk a little bit about the film.

00:03:43.000 Really, you just need to see it.

00:03:45.000 Words cannot do justice for this film.

00:03:51.000 And it really encapsulated the fact that if you're doing good and you're standing up against evil, the world is going to persecute you.

00:03:58.000 And the enforcers, the black ski mask, Nazi, New World Order thugs, enjoy their work. 0.80

00:04:04.000 They hate goodness. 0.98

00:04:06.000 They enjoy torturing goodness.

00:04:08.000 They enjoy flaying the skin off of people. 1.00

00:04:11.000 They enjoy breaking up families because they're of their father.

00:04:16.000 They're of the world. 0.98

00:04:17.000 They're of the devil!

00:04:19.000 And if you don't believe in the devil, just look around you in this world. 0.79

00:04:23.000 We have wicked people in control, because they don't have conscience, and they enjoy the wickedness, they enjoy the exercise of power.

00:04:33.000 And by the way, if anybody was the bad guys in this, You know, the most evil people in the film are clearly the two torturers, the two Romans, who enjoy their jobs. 0.95

00:04:46.000 And then next, you've got the high priest.

00:04:48.000 And it's biblical.

00:04:50.000 You know, there's some of the priests, some of the rabbis are against killing Jesus.

00:04:55.000 So it's historical.

00:04:57.000 It's an amazing film.

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00:08:06.000 a war on for your mind.

00:08:09.000 Laying down your life for your brothers, your neighbors, your family, and for strangers

00:08:26.000 is the most beautiful thing you can do.

00:08:28.000 It takes so much strength and courage, but once you commit yourself to it, it's frankly not that hard.

00:08:40.000 And instinctively, in the trials and tribulations that I've been through, it is actually rewarding to not sell out, to stand up against evil, and I would be honored someday to be chewed up by the New World Order and in the fight against it.

00:09:02.000 I mean, when you realize how evil the globalists are, And what they're doing to the human spirit and humanity, how they institutionalize into the architecture of civilization the dumbing down, the ingraining of true evil into the human system, your very humanity and God's programming should be crying out against it.

00:09:32.000 Really, I don't have words to describe how deeply moving the passion of the Christ was.

00:09:37.000 It was more than I thought it would be.

00:09:39.000 It was very well done, very nightmarish, and at the same time, uplifting.

00:09:47.000 And it's very historical!

00:09:50.000 And I was over at my parents' house having a dinner last night after I saw the Passion, and I wish I would have written the Rabbi's name down. 0.97

00:09:57.000 He was on Scarborough country, the neocon with beady eyes, but he was a British rabbi, had the hat on, and he was very well-spoken, laying out what a good film this was, how historical it was, according to Jewish and Roman historians, and what good friends Christians were of the Jews, and how stupid it is that all these leftist, New World Order, secular humanist Jews are attacking the movie because they're anti-God. 0.95

00:10:28.000 I've got to get his name. 0.95

00:10:29.000 Did anybody get his name?

00:10:32.000 I tried to find a transcript of it on MSNBC and couldn't.

00:10:36.000 I want to get him on because he was very, very well-spoken, very eloquent, very intelligent.

00:10:41.000 There's that other rabbi who was in the Newsday article earlier this week.

00:10:47.000 It was on Monday, basically saying the same thing, but it was just an amazing film.

00:10:52.000 You need to go see it.

00:10:54.000 I saw an article where a group of pastors had bought out a couple theaters And bought everybody tickets.

00:11:00.000 And they were going to preach after the film, but after they saw a pre-screening of it, they decided not to do that because there was nothing they could add.

00:11:11.000 I mean, it's still sinking in.

00:11:15.000 And I'm kind of a history buff.

00:11:17.000 I've read what 20 lashes of a cat or nine tail will do.

00:11:22.000 Jesus got many, many, many, many, many times that, or Yeshua.

00:11:30.000 Reading what a Caterpillar will do is it will peel the skin off to your ribs.

00:11:35.000 And yes, that happens in the movie.

00:11:38.000 And it shocked a lot of people.

00:11:40.000 But this is what torture is.

00:11:42.000 This is what evil governments do.

00:11:45.000 This is what they always do.

00:11:46.000 That's why I get so upset when I turn on 24, Threat Matrix, NYPD Blue.

00:11:52.000 Every episode they're torturing people.

00:11:54.000 The torturers are the good guys.

00:11:56.000 The tortured deserve it.

00:11:59.000 We're entering this Roman system. 0.91

00:12:02.000 We're entering something that has been the norm worldwide.

00:12:06.000 We're entering Satan's system.

00:12:10.000 And it's happening.

00:12:12.000 And I'm very upset.

00:12:14.000 And if you're not angry at evil, again, something's wrong with you.

00:12:18.000 Your clock isn't working.

00:12:20.000 Your elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.

00:12:23.000 You're a few cards short of a full deck.

00:12:26.000 I mean, you know the cliches.

00:12:29.000 I mean, if you're not threatened by the mechanized, scientifically crafted, focused, burbling evil that is taking over right now at every level, and if you don't feel your muscles tensing and the hair on the back of your neck standing, and if you don't feel coiled to resist it, and if you're not throwing your weight against this machine, and if you're not trying to awaken others And in yelling it from the rooftops, you've got a sickness.

00:13:00.000 And the culture has a sickness.

00:13:02.000 The Hollywood elite hate this movie because it's wholesome, it's Christian, it's uplifting, it's about sacrifice.

00:13:09.000 And let me tell you, everything we've got, the civilization we've got, the plenty we have, is because of people putting their lives on the line.

00:13:18.000 We've got Texas because of the Alamo.

00:13:20.000 We've got America because of 1776. 0.92

00:13:23.000 We have the technological developments and advancements we do because of risk and sacrifice.

00:13:30.000 That's what builds humanity.

00:13:32.000 The man who dies, who left something to his family, who stood up for decency, who fought wickedness, who created things, who was loving.

00:13:43.000 That man or woman wins.

00:13:44.000 Not the person who has the most toys.

00:13:47.000 Toys mean absolutely nothing.

00:13:51.000 Material possessions are only tools To uplift humanity and to try to reach out to the people.

00:13:58.000 That's all my material possessions are about.

00:14:02.000 Okay, I said we'd take a bunch of calls.

00:14:03.000 If you've seen The Passion, and you love it, hate it, if you've got comments on it, if you haven't seen it but have seen media reaction to it, you can also comment.

00:14:15.000 But this is what we're talking about right now.

00:14:18.000 We're talking about The Passion.

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00:14:32.000 And the world hated him, the master is dead.

00:14:35.000 It's going to hate you, the servant.

00:14:38.000 And I look at how evil hates goodness.

00:14:41.000 It'll pass over other wickedness and it goes right after the goodness.

00:14:46.000 That's because it's threatened by it.

00:14:49.000 And understand, these wicked people enjoy their work just like those Romans enjoyed flaying Christ's skin off. 1.00

00:14:57.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in Arizona.

00:15:00.000 Mike, you're on the air.

00:15:01.000 Go ahead.

00:15:01.000 Morning, Alex.

00:15:03.000 I think that was probably Rabbi Daniel Lappin, I suspect from your description.

00:15:13.000 Rabbi Daniel Lappin was in the Daily News article, but he was a gentleman, this was a gentleman on Scarborough Country, and I wish I would have written down his name, but I mean, I agree with everything he was saying.

00:15:27.000 I watched the movie last night, and I guess I had pretty much the same reaction you did.

00:15:32.000 It's just riveting.

00:15:33.000 And most people were not even looking around them to see other people's reactions.

00:15:38.000 I think everyone was so teary-eyed and just thunderstruck that it was like they had a spike driven through their guts to the seat.

00:15:49.000 It was just that powerful a movie.

00:15:52.000 And it shows us how wicked society is, and in the real world, this is a true story, but in the everyday real world, we see the innocent being persecuted, just like Christ was.

00:16:04.000 Now why is that?

00:16:05.000 Why do they persecute the goodness? 0.62

00:16:09.000 Well, that's an age-old question, and I'm not sure I have the answer to.

00:16:15.000 You brought up something the other day, or started to, about the ADL, and why they so violently object to this movie.

00:16:25.000 Of course, we understand that they, to some extent, they defend Israel and defend Jews worldwide, except in instances where Jews run counter to their interests, like, as you pointed out, the Second Amendment, where Jews are in favor of gun rights, they will attack Jews as well. 0.83

00:16:45.000 But I think more specifically, the ADL is about being a front for the New World Order Remember when Reese did the hearings in Congress back in the fifties into the tax-exempt foundations that seemed to be underwriting communism, some of the investigators were amazed to find that they were getting threats from ADL representatives.

00:17:14.000 And I'm talking death threats here.

00:17:17.000 Why, you know, why Are they wondering, did the ADL care about their investigation into these foundations?

00:17:23.000 These foundations fund the ADL.

00:17:27.000 The ADL is almost, you know, there's an identity between the... Exactly!

00:17:33.000 Look, look, anti-Semitism is a horrible label, and the ADL is a rent-a-demonization squad.

00:17:41.000 And so they love a real Nazi like Arnold because he's pro-New World Order, but then if you fight Nazis and you're anti-New World Order, they come after you.

00:17:48.000 Thanks for the call.

00:17:49.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:17:50.000 You bet.

00:17:50.000 We're talking about The Passion, folks, and the response to it.

00:17:53.000 Don in Indiana.

00:17:54.000 Don, go ahead.

00:17:55.000 Yes, Alex.

00:17:56.000 Hey, thanks for having me on.

00:17:57.000 You bet.

00:17:58.000 I'm 23 years old.

00:17:59.000 Most people I tell about your show, they think I'm crazy, and your show is really an inspiration for me and really keeps me up to date on what's going on in our world.

00:18:08.000 And my question to you was, you know, every morning on a Monday morning when I watch the news and they tell you how much each movie made for the weekend, the grossing, my question was, do you think that the criminal media is going to obscure the numbers?

00:18:21.000 Because those numbers that are going to come out for The Passion of Christ are going to be pretty large.

00:18:26.000 They're not going to be able to obscure the numbers.

00:18:29.000 Preliminary numbers are between 19 and 30 million for the first day.

00:18:33.000 They're not sure we should know by this evening. 0.83

00:18:37.000 I hope it makes a billion bucks because that will force Hollywood to stop putting out so much garbage. 0.81

00:18:45.000 It's a reflection of what the people want to see.

00:18:48.000 It shows Hollywood is really giving us what we don't want.

00:18:52.000 Exactly.

00:18:53.000 Exactly.

00:18:54.000 And people are going to realize that this is a great movie.

00:18:56.000 A lot of people are going to go see it.

00:18:57.000 And it's a great witnessing tool.

00:18:59.000 So many other people will go and see it.

00:19:01.000 I think it's a great movie.

00:19:03.000 Did you see it?

00:19:04.000 Not yet.

00:19:05.000 I've seen a lot of the trailers.

00:19:06.000 I've seen some previews.

00:19:08.000 And what I've seen is very moving.

00:19:10.000 All right.

00:19:11.000 Good to hear from you.

00:19:11.000 I appreciate your call, Don.

00:19:13.000 Believe me, folks, you need to see it.

00:19:16.000 The trailers do not give it any justice.

00:19:20.000 And I don't suggest you go up and go get a hot dog or popcorn.

00:19:24.000 Get all that beforehand.

00:19:27.000 I suggest you bring a package of tissues and just forget the popcorn.

00:19:34.000 I will come back and talk to Paula and many, many others that are patiently holding.

00:19:40.000 toll-free number to join us 1-800-259-9231.

00:19:47.000 And I want to know who that rabbi was on, why did he write his name down on...

00:19:51.000 I want to get him on.

00:19:52.000 He really was laying it out last night on Scarborough Country.

00:19:57.000 We'll be back.

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00:24:34.000 Continuing with the open phone concerning the passion, let's talk to Susan in Illinois.

00:24:41.000 Susan, go ahead. 0.95

00:24:42.000 Hi, Alex.

00:24:42.000 I'm a first-time caller.

00:24:45.000 I just wanted to say that I encourage the moms and dads out there to take their teenagers.

00:24:51.000 We took seven teens last night and we had to buy tickets ahead of time.

00:24:56.000 They were sold out so quickly and I'll tell you this movie affected them more than any other church service or anything that we've ever brought them to.

00:25:07.000 When we got home we sat around and had a discussion and It was very moving.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, the same Hollywood crowd that wants your children to go see the most violent stuff imaginable is going, ooh, don't take even your teenagers to this.

00:25:22.000 I think you should take five-year-olds to this.

00:25:25.000 I mean, this is real, this is historical, this is what happens, and the people need to know And then when your children see cheap, you know, demonic violence, they will know the difference and see violence for what it is.

00:25:41.000 And maybe when they watch shows like 24, when Keither Sutherland's torturing some woman to death, maybe they'll see him for what he is, a demon trying to sell us the doctrines of devils!

00:25:52.000 That's right, and my husband was commenting that maybe A scaled-down version could be made for television so the younger children would be able to see it.

00:26:02.000 Mel Gibson told Variety he'll never air it on TV because no commercials will be played and nothing will be scaled down.

00:26:09.000 Okay.

00:26:10.000 But he is saying... Yeah, it just was a shame that the younger children weren't permitted in, you know, because it was rated R. Well, actually, a parent can take their child to an R-rated film.

00:26:21.000 Oh, the young ones, too?

00:26:22.000 Uh-huh.

00:26:23.000 And now I'm hearing Mormons are being told not to go because it's R-rated.

00:26:27.000 That's the letter of the law, spirit of the law. 0.99

00:26:30.000 I mean, that's ridiculous.

00:26:33.000 Well, for all the violence they see on TV and movies, Well, I mean, you know, that's like saying, look, that's like saying you shouldn't watch a documentary of German concentration camps. 0.96

00:26:44.000 I mean, that's naked, dead, emaciated piles of dead bodies.

00:26:48.000 That's much grosser and more violent than this movie, but that's okay!

00:26:53.000 You know, it's okay to show what the Japanese did to our troops, but don't show Jesus. 1.00

00:26:59.000 And this is the New World Order.

00:27:01.000 Thanks for the call.

00:27:02.000 Thank you.

00:27:03.000 Good to hear from you, Susan.

00:27:04.000 I'm glad you went and saw the film.

00:27:05.000 Glad you like it.

00:27:07.000 Let's talk to Heldy. 0.72

00:27:10.000 Heldy in Vermont.

00:27:11.000 Go ahead.

00:27:12.000 Hi, dear.

00:27:13.000 How are you?

00:27:14.000 Fine.

00:27:14.000 God bless you.

00:27:16.000 You're a brave heart.

00:27:17.000 And so is Mel Gibson.

00:27:19.000 What a brave heart.

00:27:20.000 And I want to say, my husband and I and our friends went to see the movie.

00:27:24.000 We reserved tickets last night.

00:27:26.000 And Jesus is our Lord and our King and our Savior.

00:27:30.000 And this movie so depicted that.

00:27:32.000 It's a real gift from the Holy Spirit.

00:27:34.000 Truly magnificent.

00:27:36.000 And every Christian in our country ought to see it.

00:27:39.000 And I pray to God that it brings about much conversion.

00:27:42.000 It gives us great hope.

00:27:44.000 It's a real shot in the arm.

00:27:46.000 Absolutely!

00:27:47.000 And you know, as Christians, we have to stop being ashamed.

00:27:50.000 They've taught us to have shame while almost every show's about witchcraft and demonology and all this stuff and inhumanism.

00:28:00.000 And that's what that rabbi said last night.

00:28:02.000 He said, this film threatens Hollywood because the humanists are taking over and it's the humanists that are pushing the anti-Semitism.

00:28:09.000 Exactly right.

00:28:10.000 Exactly right.

00:28:11.000 And I was talking with our pastor and he said precisely that.

00:28:14.000 He said, you know, He said, this movie is a gift from the Holy Spirit, and it's touching hearts, and the New York Times and all these other secular newscasters are having a tizzy fit like the demons were, you know, in the movie, you know, and trying to cast remorse.

00:28:32.000 Exactly!

00:28:33.000 Exactly!

00:28:34.000 We're seeing persecution.

00:28:35.000 Thank you for the call.

00:28:36.000 Well, you're welcome, and God bless you.

00:28:38.000 Good to hear from you.

00:28:39.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chris in Indiana.

00:28:48.000 I'm doing fine.

00:28:50.000 I have two quick comments to make.

00:28:53.000 Number one, as you know, going back to early Rome, it was just More like early America, but as Rome started to decline.

00:29:04.000 Oh, that's true. 0.96

00:29:05.000 Rome was very conservative, didn't put up with any garbage, no adultery, no homosexuality, and then they declined. 0.99

00:29:14.000 Go ahead. 0.99

00:29:14.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:29:15.000 And it was rampant. 0.94

00:29:18.000 Rampant, open, homosexuality later. 0.92

00:29:21.000 You've got tyrannical rulers such as Caligula and Nero.

00:29:25.000 And unfortunately, It seems like it's happening here, because now we have violence just for violence's sake on TV.

00:29:34.000 Yet they'll vilify, as the previous caller mentioned, they'll vilify a movie where violence is for a much greater sake.

00:29:44.000 Absolutely.

00:29:44.000 Have you seen the film?

00:29:45.000 No, I'm going to see it today.

00:29:47.000 Okay, alright, alright.

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00:33:15.000 We're about to go to Rick and Joe and Caroline, Jason and others responding for those that have seen

00:33:21.000 The Passion of the Christ, the most powerful film I have ever seen, very moving in the spirit.

00:33:28.000 And I suggest everyone go and see it, to realize not just what Christ did for us on the cross

00:33:35.000 and the type of attitude we should have in standing up against evil and how we should treat our friends and family

00:33:41.000 and those we don't even know, but also the nature of our enemy.

00:33:51.000 The nature of the New World Order. 0.85

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00:36:11.000 Alright, let's go to Rick in Tennessee.

00:36:14.000 Rick, go ahead.

00:36:15.000 Thank you for holding.

00:36:16.000 Thank you for taking my call.

00:36:16.000 How are you doing, Alex?

00:36:18.000 I just wanted to point out for anybody who's saying that the movie is anti-Jew or anti-Roman or anything, that Mel Gibson very craftily depicted an entity, a powerful entity, behind the scenes influencing the torturers and influencing the people.

00:36:32.000 And I think a lot of people are missing that.

00:36:34.000 Well, you know, that's a good point.

00:36:35.000 We know Christ was tempted by the devil, Satan, Beelzebub, There when he was in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights and up on the mountain, and we know the devil was slinking around and he confronts the devil after he's crucified and comes back and rises again, but in the film they have the devil running things and

00:36:59.000 I would say the most brutal people in the film are obviously the Romans. 1.00

00:37:02.000 And it just shows how Hollywood, because they hate Christianity, tried to use the label of anti-Semitism.

00:37:09.000 But I think it's blown up in their face.

00:37:11.000 Absolutely.

00:37:12.000 Have you seen the film?

00:37:13.000 Yes, I did.

00:37:13.000 Went yesterday, got my tickets two weeks ago, and went to the first showing.

00:37:18.000 What did you think of it?

00:37:19.000 Oh, it's awesome.

00:37:21.000 It makes you realize how much, and there's no way you can repay him for what he did, but it's just how much we owe him.

00:37:28.000 For what he went through and what he did for us.

00:37:32.000 That we could be saved and that we could be, you know, he took the punishment for our sins.

00:37:37.000 The things that we deserve, what he got, but he did not deserve it.

00:37:40.000 I don't know, I'm just speechless.

00:37:43.000 I don't know what to say to it.

00:37:46.000 I'm speechless too.

00:37:47.000 Thanks for the call, Rick.

00:37:49.000 Thank you.

00:37:49.000 Good to hear from you.

00:37:50.000 Joe in New York.

00:37:52.000 Joe, go ahead.

00:37:53.000 Hey Alex, this is Joe.

00:37:55.000 You know I called up in the past and I supported everything that you've done opposing the New World Order, and when it comes time, I will throw on my suit of armor and fight right beside you.

00:38:04.000 Thank you.

00:38:05.000 I have a couple of comments, a couple of questions, and a lot of this actually even concerns me.

00:38:11.000 I've been listening to you for a long time.

00:38:13.000 I have all your tapes.

00:38:14.000 I think they're great.

00:38:15.000 I know, but when somebody prefaces a call without you, I'm a big supporter of you, but hey, go ahead and make your points, bud.

00:38:22.000 Well, I don't want your other listeners to get the wrong idea.

00:38:24.000 I do support you.

00:38:26.000 And I've been listening to your show, and a lot of times people do call up and you say you want to stick to the facts, you don't want to talk about hypotheticals, only things that you can prove.

00:38:35.000 In the whole beginning of the show, I've been hearing this is a historical event, and let me make my whole comment to you, this is a historical event, this actually did happen, when really, Alex, it's always good to have faith.

00:38:48.000 I do believe in a creator.

00:38:50.000 However, there really isn't enough documented evidence that I have seen, other than a Bible, that actually supports the theory or the historical life or birth of Christ.

00:39:05.000 Now let me ask you, hold on, hold on, let me finish please.

00:39:08.000 Now put him on hold, put him on hold, because you know, we have a dialogue here, and I get to talk too.

00:39:15.000 That's like saying, I've never seen George Washington, where's the proof?

00:39:18.000 Or, I've never seen Caligula, but Caligula did live and there were a whole bunch of Jewish historians, Roman historians.

00:39:27.000 It's a true story.

00:39:29.000 So just because you haven't bothered to look for the evidence, and don't know about archaeology or history, which I do, more than most people, I could certainly learn a lot more, but I'm interested in these things.

00:39:41.000 Yes, when I'm covering the news or legislation, I stick to the facts.

00:39:45.000 Yes, I'm a Christian, because I have faith in what I believe in.

00:39:49.000 Can you say that that's speculation?

00:39:52.000 Yes.

00:39:53.000 I mean, clearly, those two things are separate.

00:39:53.000 Okay?

00:39:56.000 And I don't have a, quote, religious show.

00:39:58.000 You know, I don't sit here and have secular debates and fights and, you know, get into all this.

00:40:04.000 I'm talking about the passion.

00:40:07.000 But now, go ahead now and you can finish up.

00:40:10.000 Alright, yeah, I can appreciate your comment.

00:40:13.000 But what I want to say is, do you think for one moment that if a Bible had the power that everyone puts into this book That the New World Order would give them out for free in every motel so that you can defeat their God? 0.58

00:40:30.000 That book would be in the bottom of the Vatican with a lock on it so tight that you don't even know about that book.

00:40:41.000 Hey, listen, I gotta let you go.

00:40:42.000 I gotta let you go because what I said is we're talking about compassion and we're taking calls.

00:40:46.000 Some other day we can have this debate.

00:40:47.000 Or you can call back in the third hour after I rebroadcast this interview because it's a very important interview and we can talk more.

00:40:55.000 You know, the Gideons paid to have Bibles put in the churches and in hotel rooms and in other places. 0.92

00:41:02.000 And that's what made America free, and that's what made 4% of the population have half the wealth.

00:41:07.000 Now we're becoming decadent, we're losing the wealth, we're losing the freedom, we're losing the milk and honey, we're going back into bondage.

00:41:14.000 You reap what you sow.

00:41:16.000 Even if you're an atheist, the ideas in the Ten Commandments are good ideas to live by.

00:41:24.000 And we're leaving that.

00:41:26.000 The people running things don't like that.

00:41:29.000 And the New World Order doesn't control everything.

00:41:31.000 They don't control Mel Gibson.

00:41:33.000 They don't control you.

00:41:34.000 That's the point.

00:41:35.000 We have the power.

00:41:36.000 We can take the planet back over.

00:41:39.000 That's the point I've always made.

00:41:41.000 The New World Order is not all powerful.

00:41:44.000 I've made videos that millions of people have seen because of you airing them on AXS TV and making thousands of copies of them.

00:41:51.000 I've reached millions of people.

00:41:53.000 I've done multiple radio interviews this morning.

00:41:56.000 I'm doing more tonight.

00:42:00.000 All that evil men and tyrants need to flourish is that good men and women do nothing.

00:42:05.000 So thank you, Joe.

00:42:07.000 Let's talk to Caroline in Colorado. 0.94

00:42:09.000 Caroline, go ahead. 0.99

00:42:10.000 Hi, Alex.

00:42:11.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:42:14.000 I just wanted to make an observation of some of the things that I have recorded, you know, like primetime and Nightline and things that have come on about the passion.

00:42:27.000 And, you know, one of the things with Diane Sawyer, She made the comment, or gave the statistic, I don't know how reliable that was.

00:42:38.000 80% of us are Christians, which people say they are, and then she says, and then 20% aren't.

00:42:45.000 Ooh, we're very diverse, how dare the Christians! 1.00

00:42:48.000 So she takes the numbers, showing we're a Christian nation, and says we're not.

00:42:52.000 Right, and the comment that I just want to make on that is You know, you've been talking about the things that are going on in the world today, and particularly in American government.

00:43:06.000 And, you know, for her to say that, and to say that 80 plus percent claim to have Christianity in their background, and then the way that the media and Hollywood and everything are just obscuring this movie, it's as if You know, the majority doesn't rule, like we're supposed to be founded on.

00:43:29.000 You know, the minority, a small minority, just like you've been saying, they have an agenda, they're pushing that agenda, and they're ignoring what the majority... Exactly, and what happens is, in most cases, is the majority believes the tiny man behind the curtain saying we're all alone, we don't have any power, and you can't fight City Hall, and you can't defeat the New World Order, when that's a parlor trick.

00:43:57.000 The globalists or the cosmic con artists, they've convinced us, but finally, once enough of us stand up and say we're not listening to your propaganda, we find out we are the majority.

00:44:08.000 But see, so many people are like cattle.

00:44:11.000 If they hear that the majority is for something, they go, well then I'm for it, when it wasn't the majority to begin with.

00:44:17.000 They're selling us evil.

00:44:19.000 They're selling us wickedness.

00:44:20.000 We can defeat this new world order.

00:44:23.000 But it takes businesses supporting alternative talk radio.

00:44:26.000 It takes people becoming leaders, starting their own websites.

00:44:30.000 Starting their own organizations, going to city council meetings.

00:44:34.000 It takes people becoming aggressive and not just sitting there going, I can't do nothing!

00:44:39.000 Did you see the film?

00:44:41.000 I haven't.

00:44:42.000 We have tickets for Saturday evening showing.

00:44:45.000 Well, good.

00:44:45.000 Call me back once you've seen it.

00:44:46.000 I appreciate the call.

00:44:47.000 You bet.

00:44:48.000 Jason in Michigan.

00:44:49.000 Jason, go ahead.

00:44:50.000 You're on the air.

00:44:51.000 Hello, Alex.

00:44:52.000 Yes.

00:44:53.000 How are you, sir?

00:44:53.000 Fine.

00:44:54.000 Good, good.

00:44:55.000 You know, I saw an interview, actually, of a rabbi I have not seen the movie yet, but if you could probably point out this scene to your viewers of a lot of Jewish people yelling at Jesus when he was about to be crucified.

00:45:12.000 Yeah, that's the Bible.

00:45:15.000 And, you know, comparing that to anti-Semitism I think is wrong because no matter what religion or creed you are, there's going to be Good people and bad people that want to see that sort of thing. 0.53

00:45:29.000 You can compare it to like an online vote right now if you'd watch Osama Bin Laden executed on television.

00:45:35.000 I mean, that's just my point that I wanted to make.

00:45:39.000 Yeah, well that's a good point.

00:45:41.000 These were the people that wanted him dead. 0.98

00:45:43.000 They ran in there and said kill him.

00:45:46.000 The film certainly shows that a lot of Jews didn't want Jesus to be killed.

00:45:50.000 But the establishment did.

00:45:52.000 The governing council did.

00:45:55.000 That is, the religious governing council did.

00:45:58.000 Herod didn't want to kill him.

00:46:00.000 A pilot didn't want to kill him.

00:46:02.000 They were like, what's the point?

00:46:04.000 But the religious leaders were threatened by it.

00:46:07.000 Thanks for the call.

00:46:09.000 I appreciate it.

00:46:10.000 Phil in Iowa.

00:46:11.000 Phil, go ahead.

00:46:14.000 Alex?

00:46:14.000 Yes.

00:46:16.000 You kind of cut out there.

00:46:17.000 I wasn't sure.

00:46:17.000 Alrighty.

00:46:18.000 Well, go ahead.

00:46:19.000 Well, I haven't seen The Passion, although we are planning on going to see it before we take our children to make sure it's appropriate for our younger teenagers.

00:46:30.000 I was wondering, Alex, if you were aware, according to an artist's rendition in an American Legion magazine, the new Veterans Memorial for World War II is a Roman triumphal arch.

00:46:46.000 Yeah, I've seen that.

00:46:49.000 Well, I'd never heard anybody else mention that.

00:46:52.000 No, I had read that in a magazine that that's what they were going to do.

00:46:56.000 Yeah, I actually saw that in the American Legion magazine.

00:47:02.000 You made me think of that earlier in the show when you mentioned how this Roman system was being re-adopted.

00:47:09.000 Well, that's what the New World Order is. 0.86

00:47:11.000 That's what the black robes are, where the judges and you pray to the court.

00:47:15.000 In your court pleadings, folks, read the lawsuits.

00:47:17.000 It'll be, we pray to the court.

00:47:19.000 That's not the American system.

00:47:21.000 That's not the Magna Carta that comes from Moses 3,000 years ago.

00:47:26.000 We are shifting away from that and our common law to Roman civil law.

00:47:32.000 Civil rights.

00:47:33.000 This whole system's Roman. 0.99

00:47:35.000 Look at the layout of D.C.

00:47:38.000 The obelisk, the Egyptian and Roman stuff.

00:47:40.000 Thanks for the call.

00:47:41.000 Good to hear from you.

00:47:43.000 Let's talk to Andy in Connecticut.

00:47:45.000 Andy, go ahead.

00:47:46.000 Hello?

00:47:47.000 Yes.

00:47:47.000 Hi, how are you Alex?

00:47:49.000 Fine, good.

00:47:49.000 Good.

00:47:50.000 Both my wife and I did see the movie yesterday morning.

00:47:53.000 Good.

00:47:54.000 What did you think of it?

00:47:54.000 Well, we think there was a definite message there, and that is that God wants us to know what Jesus endured for us, so as to prepare us not to deny Him when it's our turn to be tortured for Him.

00:48:05.000 That's what I got from it.

00:48:07.000 I am committed to dying in the fight against the New World Order.

00:48:09.000 I am committed to laying my life down for my brothers and for people I don't even know.

00:48:13.000 I am committed.

00:48:15.000 And when we have that attitude, goodness flourishes.

00:48:19.000 When we're a bunch of cowards, and can't even fight evil because our neighbor might not like us, there's something wrong with us.

00:48:26.000 Right. 0.95

00:48:26.000 I need to tell you two other things. 0.95

00:48:28.000 Number one, my wife told me that Bill O'Reilly was on The View this morning with Barbara Walters.

00:48:33.000 And he was actually criticizing the New York Times for criticizing Mel Gibson.

00:48:39.000 Well that's, you know, it's backfired on all of them so they're having to scurry around right now.

00:48:44.000 Thanks for the call, Andy.

00:48:45.000 Thank you.

00:48:46.000 John in Texas.

00:48:47.000 You're on the air.

00:48:47.000 John, go ahead.

00:48:49.000 Okay, John hung up.

00:48:50.000 Steve in Florida.

00:48:51.000 Steve, go ahead.

00:48:53.000 Thank you, Alex, for taking my call.

00:48:54.000 Am I coming in?

00:48:55.000 Yes, sir.

00:48:56.000 I wanted to address the caller earlier.

00:48:57.000 It sounded like he was from New York or somewhere up there saying that the The Bible was the only proof that Jesus ever existed according to what he's read.

00:49:05.000 He's obviously never read Antiquities of the Jews written by Josephus.

00:49:10.000 It writes extensively of the time of Jesus and what he did.

00:49:13.000 And also the Roman Plaintiff spoke of the followers of Jesus. 0.86

00:49:17.000 And a well-known man named Napoleon said, quote, Man I know, and this Jesus Christ I know is no mortal man.

00:49:24.000 It's all over history.

00:49:26.000 There were over twenty Jewish and Roman historians, Greek historians, there were at least five historians who saw him, and saw him after he was resurrected.

00:49:37.000 This is the most documented thing from ancient history.

00:49:41.000 And what he said about the Bible being buried in the depths of the Vatican is a big joke.

00:49:47.000 If God wants people to read the Bible, which He does, God is going to let people have the Bible, and that's just out of line. 0.50

00:49:53.000 Yeah, that's how it works.

00:49:54.000 We've been given the choice.

00:49:56.000 This film is giving us a choice.

00:49:58.000 God gives us a choice.

00:49:59.000 You know, this show is about giving you a choice, so you know what the New World Order is, police, government officials.

00:50:06.000 You're all being given the choice.

00:50:08.000 Do you agree with that?

00:50:09.000 I agree, and you're doing a very good work here, mate.

00:50:11.000 Bottom line is the biggest choice we have is to accept Jesus Christ as our personal Savior after we repent.

00:50:18.000 I praise the Lord that you're a Christian, and I praise the Lord and pray for you daily for the work you do for our God.

00:50:23.000 Well, thank you, and I want to thank everybody out there.

00:50:26.000 My point is, is that God uses us all to get the truth out there.

00:50:30.000 And we're all confronted by the truth, as Winston Churchill said, it knocks us all down in our life.

00:50:36.000 But most of us get up, dust off, and act like nothing happened.

00:50:39.000 But when I got hit by the truth, like Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus, when I got knocked off my horse, I saw the light.

00:50:51.000 I got the religion.

00:50:53.000 Okay.

00:50:54.000 We'll be back.

00:50:54.000 We've got the Shrimpton interview coming up, and then I'll be back live in the third hour.

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00:53:00.000 Alex Jones here announcing the release of my new film, Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

00:53:05.000 Police State 3 details the architecture, goals and operations of the New World Order.

00:53:12.000 disaster, a new world order. A new world order can emerge.

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00:53:58.000 Alright, let's go to the calls as quickly as possible. Your questions, your comments,

00:54:14.000 Let's get them out there and then move on to the next caller.

00:54:17.000 Let's talk to Eric in Connecticut.

00:54:18.000 Eric, go ahead.

00:54:19.000 Hi Alex, thanks for taking my call and I'm glad you're feeling better.

00:54:23.000 You bet, thank you.

00:54:24.000 I just wanted to remind your listeners that this weekend, this Saturday, at the Castle Cinema up in Providence, I think it's from 2 p.m.

00:54:32.000 to 6 p.m.

00:54:33.000 There will be a showing of one of your videos, Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

00:54:37.000 That's right.

00:54:38.000 They're going to be showing that.

00:54:39.000 There's information at the 1320 website.

00:54:42.000 And I have reservations for me and a buddy to see that.

00:54:45.000 Well, I appreciate you going.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, and I'll give you a report when I'm done and when we've seen it.

00:54:51.000 And I'm looking forward to it and seeing fellow patriots up there.

00:54:54.000 And I have not seen that particular video, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

00:54:58.000 And one other thing, Alex.

00:55:02.000 It's the longest video, so... Okay, did you know that Mr. Sean Hannity, do you know when he went syndicated?

00:55:08.000 9-11.

00:55:10.000 Well, September 10th, 2001.

00:55:12.000 And I heard a rumor that basically they had a big roundtable before that day, Roger Ailes and all the neocons, and they were basically tipped off and they were told, you tell the truth, your careers are toast, you go along with the line, you're going to make millions.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, it's pretty obvious what they did, and it's a staged deal, it's a CIA operation, we know that.

00:55:34.000 They're given their orders, what to do, what to say, how to operate, and Clear Channel owns the voting machines in many areas, and they run the candidates, and they, uh, everything!

00:55:44.000 They own the media, they own the voting machines, they own the candidates.

00:55:47.000 Yep, and even on the local paper, I tried to get my local paper to talk about World Trade Center 7, And one of the editors says, oh, I'm just not interested in it.

00:55:55.000 And I said, you're not interested in one of the biggest stories of the last hundred years?

00:55:58.000 Yeah, the owner says we blew it up on national TV, and they can just go, okay, you blew it up, great, thanks a lot.

00:56:03.000 Yep.

00:56:04.000 Thanks for the call, Eric.

00:56:05.000 Hey, good to hear from you.

00:56:05.000 Okay, Alex.

00:56:06.000 Let's talk to Mildred in Colorado. 1.00

00:56:08.000 Mildred, go ahead. 1.00

00:56:10.000 Hi, Alex.

00:56:11.000 I was wondering what your definition of Zionist is.

00:56:17.000 I've been listening since the first of your show, and you were speaking then of being Of not being anti-semitic.

00:56:24.000 That's right, I'm not against... But you spoke of someone who was anti-zionist and you seemed to agree with them, so I just needed to know your definition of zionist. 0.98

00:56:34.000 Well, I'm against, say, Mecha, who says that they hate white people and blacks.

00:56:40.000 What's Mecha? 0.90

00:56:42.000 Ma'am, just let me answer your question, okay?

00:56:47.000 I'm against Mecha because they say they don't like certain races and that they're the best.

00:56:52.000 Okay, I'm against the Ku Klux Klan because they say that about whites. 0.98

00:56:56.000 And Zionists, you know, the real King Daddy, a real Zionist, thinks that they're the best and everybody else is basically dog meat. 0.99

00:57:07.000 And so that's who I'm talking about and most Jews are not Zionists. 0.98

00:57:10.000 So I'm against racist Jews. 0.99

00:57:12.000 I'm against racist blacks. 1.00

00:57:14.000 I'm against racist Germans. 0.99

00:57:16.000 And so that's what I said.

00:57:18.000 You don't think Zionism means that you support Israel as a nation?

00:57:23.000 No, that's not what it means.

00:57:26.000 If you really look at what the real Zionism is, it's a lot more than that. 0.84

00:57:31.000 It means domination by Israel of a certain group of people. 0.87

00:57:37.000 I can have a bunch of rabbis up and tell you that if you'd like me to.

00:57:40.000 I would like for you to.

00:57:42.000 Okay, well, you better research what the Zionists say.

00:57:44.000 I mean, they don't have a very good view of people who aren't Jewish.

00:57:49.000 It's pretty racist stuff.

00:57:52.000 Well, thank you.

00:57:53.000 Hey, I appreciate your call, Mildred.

00:57:55.000 And, you know, maybe we should have a debate about this.

00:58:00.000 What I was talking about was this article, Anti-Semitism Charges Causing More Damage Than Film Could.

00:58:07.000 Two weeks before the opening of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, online ticket merchants reported that up to half of their total sales were from the film.

00:58:16.000 One Dallas Multiplex has received and reserved all 20 of its screens for The Passion.

00:58:21.000 I am neither a prophet nor a movie critic.

00:58:23.000 I am merely an orthodox rabbi using ancient Jewish wisdom to make three predictions about the movie.

00:58:30.000 And Daniel Lapin, I totally agree with him.

00:58:34.000 I'm going to read this later.

00:58:36.000 This is good stuff.

00:58:38.000 About what he has to say about it.

00:58:40.000 I mean, no one would have thought anti-Semitism until the ADL injected this into it.

00:58:45.000 And now it's going to cause, it probably will cause some damage.

00:58:48.000 We'll be back with our guest.

00:58:49.000 Stay with us.

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01:00:17.000 Alright, my friends, we're now into the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny in defense of liberty.

01:00:25.000 Coming up later in the show, they're saying they're about to capture Bin Laden, this time out of the mainstream news reports, out of the Sunday Telegraph, out of the Washington Times, and we believe this is going to be a stage capture.

01:00:42.000 We've been saying this for over two years from my White House sources.

01:00:46.000 Also, we'll get into anti-Semitism charges causing more damage than Film could, from a rabbi that wrote a great editorial, Daniel Lappin, that's going to come up later.

01:00:58.000 Also more on the Rhode Island governor withdrawing their martial law legislation.

01:01:04.000 He's now apologized and said that he hadn't read the bill.

01:01:07.000 You see, oh yes, you'd read the bill.

01:01:09.000 You counted on us not reading it.

01:01:11.000 Now that we have, you've had to withdraw it.

01:01:12.000 More on that Uh, coming up.

01:01:14.000 Very serious issue.

01:01:16.000 Also, Supreme Court upholds judges' right to compel medication.

01:01:21.000 So now we have judges giving other judges police powers.

01:01:24.000 You gotta love it.

01:01:26.000 Soviet-style police powers.

01:01:28.000 Uh, CBS News, years of FBI agent crimes detailed.

01:01:32.000 Uh, that's coming up later in the broadcast, and I'll also get into some of, uh, well, my comments on Hutton, Hutton Gibson's supposed comments, uh, concerning, um, Well, some interesting issues, and I do have some comments on this, so that's coming up later as well.

01:01:51.000 Before we go to our first guest, who I'm honored to have, well, our guest for this hour, I wanted to just remind you that Dr. David Kelly was the head of the Level 4 Porton Down Bioweapons Lab in Wilshire, England.

01:02:10.000 And he was then the head British weapons inspector who'd been pro-war.

01:02:14.000 He then came back and leaked information that, look, I'm a hawk for this war, but I'm not gonna lie, Saddam doesn't have weapons of mass destruction.

01:02:23.000 And Tony Blair misused my assessment.

01:02:26.000 Well, suddenly he wound up dead.

01:02:28.000 He told British and U.S. 0.97

01:02:30.000 colleagues that I'm gonna be murdered and found dead in the woods if I don't shut up. 0.96

01:02:34.000 This is now mainstream news.

01:02:38.000 Three top doctors have gone public and looked at the autopsy results and say he clearly did not commit suicide.

01:02:45.000 And we have that posted at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:02:52.000 So a lot of people are starting to go public on this.

01:02:56.000 There were rumors of this last week that somebody who'd been inside the British government had sources that said they could confirm that Dr. David Kelly had been killed.

01:03:05.000 But the folks that got that story, I guess, didn't take time out to go ahead and get in contact with the individual who was bringing forward this information himself.

01:03:14.000 We've done that.

01:03:15.000 He's coming up here in just a few minutes and we're so honored to have him With us here on the show, he's Michael Shrimpton, and Michael Shrimpton has a long bio.

01:03:27.000 I did some research on him over the weekend.

01:03:31.000 Michael Shrimpton, of course, is a national security lawyer.

01:03:36.000 That is Barrister in Government Matters.

01:03:40.000 He's written for the Journal of International Security Affairs.

01:03:44.000 He has Given advice and briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

01:03:53.000 That's the U.S. 0.63

01:03:54.000 He's given speeches and consulted all over Western Europe and the United States.

01:03:54.000 Senate.

01:04:00.000 And, of course, he's been an invited guest of the State Department.

01:04:03.000 So he's a mainstream guy, and I was very impressed talking to him.

01:04:06.000 We're about to break for a quick three-minute break.

01:04:08.000 Come back and join a bunch of stations at Cary News during this segment, and I'll briefly recap who our guest is and we'll go to him.

01:04:16.000 Michael Scrimpton is on the line with us.

01:04:18.000 Again, we're going to break and come back, and he has some bombshell information for you from his sources inside MI5 and MI6.

01:04:26.000 Again, he's a national security lawyer, that is Barrister, who has advised the United States Senate Intelligence Committee.

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01:04:44.000 One of our great writers, Simon, is going to have an article written for us by this evening that will be posted on the websites as well.

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01:05:52.000 Alex Jones here announcing the release of my new film, Blue State 3 Total Enslavement.

01:05:56.000 Police State 3 details the architecture, goals, and operations of the New World Order.

01:06:01.000 There is a chance to use this disaster in the New World Order. 0.90

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01:08:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:08:14.000 We're going to have an article this evening on the website.

01:08:22.000 It'll appear first on PrisonPlanet.com.

01:08:27.000 And I want to thank Simon And I want to thank Rowena and I want to thank Paul Watson and all the folks that have been working on this story and for getting us this guest.

01:08:40.000 And again, he's Michael Shrimpton and a national security lawyer or barrister.

01:08:48.000 And he's written for major anti-terrorism journals.

01:08:51.000 He has given his expert advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.

01:08:58.000 Senate.

01:08:58.000 And the bio goes on and on.

01:09:00.000 He's also been involved in a lot of prominent, high-profile cases in England.

01:09:04.000 I came across that in my research on him.

01:09:07.000 And he's a really nice fellow.

01:09:08.000 During the break, I was talking to him.

01:09:10.000 I said, you know, I hope you don't end up in the woods like Dr. David Kelly.

01:09:13.000 And he said, well, no, by going public, you protect yourself.

01:09:17.000 And that's the truth.

01:09:18.000 For other government whistleblowers, telling the truth is what protects you.

01:09:22.000 If you covertly leak something, that's what's dangerous.

01:09:25.000 So, he protects himself by going on air, and obviously because of all of his sources, he's a great source for all of us.

01:09:35.000 And Michael, good to have you on the show with us.

01:09:41.000 Good day.

01:09:42.000 Just for folks, Around the world who aren't very familiar with Dr. David Kelly.

01:09:48.000 Hard to believe people aren't.

01:09:50.000 Can you recap who he was, what happened to him, and then from your sources, you even know down to the specifics of how they killed him, and from your sources, who was behind the killing.

01:10:02.000 Can you just go through it for us?

01:10:03.000 Yes, David Kelly was probably the most respected microbiologist in the United Kingdom, certainly one who specialised in weapons of mass destruction.

01:10:12.000 He was the head of our main WMD laboratory at Porton Down in Wiltshire.

01:10:17.000 He was very involved in the dismantling, verification of the dismantling of the Soviet WMD programs after the end of the Cold War.

01:10:25.000 He spent some time inside the bad old USSR. 0.79

01:10:31.000 He was the senior British inspector on UNSCOM, the UN mission inside Iraq.

01:10:38.000 He spent some considerable time in Baghdad.

01:10:42.000 He was working very closely with our overseas intelligence service, MI6, or the Secret Intelligence Service, and he was a major, high-value British intelligence asset.

01:10:52.000 He was a good man.

01:10:53.000 Decorated, awarded the CMG, Commander of St.

01:10:57.000 Michael and St.

01:10:57.000 George, and highly regarded.

01:11:00.000 And well liked, too, within the British intelligence community, and also respected in the United States.

01:11:07.000 And then suddenly Tony Blair smearing him in the press and he ends up dead and the witnesses according to the London Times and their publications saw four men in black uniform standing around him.

01:11:18.000 They run off and oh, it's a suicide.

01:11:21.000 Go over the whole controversy of, I mean, Dr. David Kelly was a hawk for the war but he wasn't going to put out false intelligence.

01:11:30.000 Go through that for folks that missed out on it.

01:11:32.000 Well yes, David Kelly briefed in a British BBC journalist called Andrew Gilligan, and also spoke to another journalist for the BBC television's Newsnight programme, and he briefed in both journalists along the line that the case for, the WMD case for war with Iraq had been exaggerated.

01:11:52.000 There's a lot of dispute about exactly what was said and what wasn't said.

01:11:55.000 The BBC Today programme, which is the leading radio current affairs programme, led with a story from Andrew Gilligan, which didn't name David Kelly as Andrew's source.

01:12:06.000 Now, we know that David Kelly was, and my own intelligence sources confirmed that before the BBC itself confirmed it on Sunday the 20th of July.

01:12:15.000 David Kelly was outed in the media.

01:12:18.000 Big dispute as to who authorised his name to be given to the media.

01:12:23.000 And he was asked to appear before a committee in the House of Commons.

01:12:26.000 There was a lot of controversy about what the government had been told, how truthful a dossier that they had prepared on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was.

01:12:35.000 And shortly after he gave evidence to the House of Commons, he was found dead on Friday 18th of July of last year.

01:12:42.000 He was found dead.

01:12:43.000 There is a dispute about exactly where he was found.

01:12:46.000 According to the official version of events, he was found dead in a copse or a wood at a place called Harrowdown Hill between the village where he lived and the River Thames.

01:12:59.000 But the forensic tents, it's noticeable, Alex, that the forensic tents that were set up by the local police force, Thames Valley Police, were actually set up in the field.

01:13:08.000 Why you would have someone killed in the woods and have the police tent over the scene of the crime set up in the field, no one has yet been able to explain to my satisfaction.

01:13:19.000 Now, the government were blamed for causing the death, but the way the government were criticised was this.

01:13:29.000 That they had caused his name to be leaked to the media.

01:13:32.000 That had put him under intolerable pressure and he had allegedly committed suicide.

01:13:36.000 The initial media reports all went with suicide and the mainstream media in the UK is still reporting it as a suicide.

01:13:44.000 The government responded very quickly and brought in a law lord, Lord Hutton, who had previously been Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland.

01:13:53.000 And the Hutton Inquiry has very recently reported that Lord Hutton Didn't challenge the suicide verdict.

01:14:01.000 There was no cross-examination of witnesses before the Hutton Inquiry as to the cause of death.

01:14:07.000 It was assumed that it was suicide and the BBC were essentially blamed for poor reporting.

01:14:13.000 The government were let off the hook.

01:14:15.000 The Hutton Report, I'm sorry to say, is widely seen as a whitewash, and it's been rubbished.

01:14:18.000 A very senior British intelligence officer recently retired, a lieutenant colonel, Crispin Black, who was on the Defence Intelligence staff until 2002, has basically described the report as a laughingstock, and I respectfully agree.

01:14:33.000 Yeah, I've seen major polls where over two-thirds of British people believe it's complete fraud.

01:14:38.000 I mean, obviously, Tony Blair hires one of his cronies to come in and say, oh, you didn't do anything wrong.

01:14:44.000 And then even that's a whitewash of a larger whitewash, because obviously, according to the medical reports, the coroner's report, the doctors that have looked at it, The suicide verdict, that's a fraud itself, and let's go into your sources and what really happened to Dr. David Kelly.

01:15:04.000 Absolutely, although I wouldn't be allowed to say that Tony Blair had hired a judge.

01:15:08.000 You understand that in England we don't hire judges.

01:15:12.000 The judge is on the state payroll anyway, and I wouldn't want to be thought of as suggesting that anybody had put a little extra funds Lord Hutton's way.

01:15:21.000 I'm quite sure Lord Hutton took no extra payment.

01:15:24.000 Well, what I'm saying is that obviously Hutton's been involved in what's been called whitewashes in the past.

01:15:31.000 The report, I'm sorry to say, with respect to Lord Hutton, the report is a complete whitewash.

01:15:36.000 Well, I mean, you have a government institution whitewashing for another government institution.

01:15:42.000 Well, exactly.

01:15:42.000 And this is the problem with appointing senior judges to hold inquiries.

01:15:46.000 There's been a lot of adverse comment in England.

01:15:49.000 The senior judge is, by definition, part of the establishment.

01:15:52.000 It's very difficult.

01:15:53.000 It's very difficult for the judge, of course, because if he whitewashes the government, everybody says, well, it is a whitewash.

01:15:59.000 If he blames the government, well, he's asking too much of a senior judge to go around blaming the government.

01:16:05.000 It's not what senior judges do.

01:16:06.000 I mean, what do you expect?

01:16:07.000 I mean, here we have it where Janet Reno hires somebody to investigate Waco.

01:16:12.000 I mean, she literally appoints the investigator.

01:16:16.000 We have Bush controlling the 9-11 panel. 0.89

01:16:18.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:16:21.000 But getting into the specifics of Dr. David Kelly's clear murder, let's go over that. 0.68

01:16:27.000 Well, absolutely.

01:16:27.000 Now, on Saturday 19th of July, David was murdered on the 17th.

01:16:32.000 On Saturday the 19th, within 48 hours of the murder, I was contacted by a British intelligence officer who had told me he'd been murdered.

01:16:42.000 I didn't take it by surprise.

01:16:44.000 I was suspicious of the suicide theory from the word go.

01:16:46.000 Now that source told me he'd done some digging and discovered that, he didn't name names, but he discovered that it had been known about in Whitehall prior to the 17th of July that David Kelly was going to be taken down.

01:16:59.000 Now normally with a suicide, Alex, you appreciate we don't like people knowing in advance.

01:17:04.000 If people know in advance of the death, that normally points away from suicide.

01:17:09.000 Yes.

01:17:10.000 I have.

01:17:12.000 Exactly.

01:17:13.000 A lot of work has been done since the murder, and there's been particularly a great deal of medical research.

01:17:21.000 Now, it's absolutely clear that David was murdered.

01:17:23.000 The suicide theory just doesn't hold water at all.

01:17:26.000 The official version of events is that he took some Coproxamol tablets.

01:17:31.000 Now, Coproxamol is available in England only by prescription.

01:17:37.000 There is a problem with that, because there is no evidence that David Kelly was ever prescribed Coproxamol.

01:17:44.000 Now, Coproxamol, I think, is available in the United States.

01:17:47.000 It's a combination of dextropropothene and paracetamol in a ratio of 1 to 10.

01:17:54.000 It's not a very powerful painkiller, and the level of Coproxamol in the bloodstream, according to the official toxicology report, was about 1 third, i.e.

01:18:03.000 not enough to kill him.

01:18:05.000 Now, 29 tablets were allegedly missing, or were missing, from a packet of Coproxamol found by the body.

01:18:13.000 The problem is that there is only one-fifth of a tablet in the stomach and there's no evidence of substantial vomiting.

01:18:19.000 There is a little bit of vomit found on the body, but not much, and there's no analysis done of the material.

01:18:26.000 The stomach contents do not support the suggestion that he ingested 29 Coproxamol tablets.

01:18:35.000 Interestingly, the initial media reports, and when we look at staged suicides or political assassinations, I find it very useful to concentrate on the early media reports, because if there is a cover-up, usually the cover-up kicks in after 12, 24, 36 hours.

01:18:53.000 The first media reports are very often the most accurate, particularly if they're coming from local news organisations.

01:18:59.000 And the early media reports make no mention of a bottle of water.

01:19:05.000 In theory is, Alex, that he took these co-proximal tablets, having set out on a walk in the course of which he was going to commit suicide, and took with him a bottle of water to swallow the tablets.

01:19:17.000 Problem, no mention in early media reports of any bottle of water.

01:19:22.000 That detail was only added in after a group of concerned people in England, professionals called the Kelly Group, had made the point, and it was already out into the open, Now, the suicide version of it can't be right.

01:19:36.000 He was found with one wrist slashed, and the ulnar artery, which is the artery near... Tell you what, we've got a break.

01:19:42.000 We're going to come back and go over the circumstantial evidence, and then your sources inside intelligence that say, hey, we got the word, he was about to be killed, and then who killed him?

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01:24:21.000 and international security barrister in england He has given testimony and advice to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the U.S.

01:24:32.000 Senate.

01:24:33.000 And he's obviously very knowledgeable about intelligence and the activities of intelligence agencies.

01:24:39.000 He has a lot of sources in MI5 and MI6.

01:24:42.000 You just heard him talk about one source inside British Intelligence that said they got word that Kelly was about to be killed by the government a week or so before he actually died.

01:24:53.000 I want to go back into that in more detail coming up here in a few minutes.

01:24:59.000 Mr. Shrimpton was then going over the material evidence of the murder, and you'd gotten to the point of the slitting of the wrist.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, he clearly didn't slit his own wrist.

01:25:12.000 The idea that he exsanguinated, that he died from hemorrhaging, he bled out from a cut to one wrist only, to the ulnar artery is just nonsense, Alex.

01:25:23.000 Firstly, the artery that was cut was the ulnar artery, which is more difficult to reach.

01:25:27.000 It's on the little finger side of the hand.

01:25:29.000 It's deeper than the radial artery.

01:25:32.000 Why go for an artery deep in the wrist when you can slit an artery much closer to the surface of the skin?

01:25:40.000 That's the first problem.

01:25:40.000 Second problem, he, according to the autopsy report, he severed or transected the artery But once you transect an artery, we have something called vasoconstriction.

01:25:52.000 The artery retracts and that promotes clotting.

01:25:55.000 It's very difficult to bleed out if you sever one artery only.

01:25:59.000 And I would second that with David Halpin, a doctor, a trauma and orthopedic surgeon, as well as Stephen Frost, specialist in diagnostics.

01:26:10.000 I mean, there's a whole bunch of top-level doctors saying this is a complete fraud.

01:26:14.000 Exactly.

01:26:15.000 One doctor went around promoting the official version of events and attacked these doctors in the Guardian newspaper in England and talked about slashing wrists.

01:26:21.000 Well, David Kelly on the official version of events didn't slash his wrists, plural.

01:26:26.000 He slashed one wrist only.

01:26:28.000 It's highly unusual.

01:26:30.000 Firstly, wrist slashing is not an effective method of committing suicide.

01:26:34.000 One of the reasons people do it in a bath of hot water is that it keeps the temperature high.

01:26:39.000 Yeah.

01:26:40.000 If you're out in the open, if you're not keeping the temperature high, the arteries will not stay dilated.

01:26:48.000 It is very difficult indeed to bleed out in the open, even if you slit both wrists.

01:26:54.000 Slitting one wrist only, much less blood loss, and we have conflicting accounts of the amount of blood found by the body.

01:27:01.000 The most reliable eyewitnesses in my judgement are probably the paramedics who found him.

01:27:08.000 They talk about comparatively little blood loss.

01:27:10.000 There is no solid evidence that a lot of blood had left the body.

01:27:16.000 There were no adequate measurements of the amount of blood left in the major vessels in the heart and so on.

01:27:20.000 Now, talking to you earlier today, it's pretty clear that they drug him up, then as he's dying, slit his wrist to create this scene.

01:27:30.000 From your sources inside the intelligence community, what really happened to Dr. David Kelly?

01:27:35.000 Well, in my judgment, based on conversations with sources and with medical experts, and a great deal of work has been done over this since the murder, he was probably murdered by a combination of an injection, not through tablets, but an intravenous injection of dextropropoxyphene and paracetamol, the constituents of coproxamol, and a muscle relaxant called succinylcholine.

01:28:03.000 Succinylcholine is a favourite method of assassinating people.

01:28:06.000 It's used by intelligence agencies, particularly the French DGSE.

01:28:11.000 Succinylcholine, although it's used therapeutically for treating, facilitating intubation and so on, can be lethal.

01:28:20.000 And in combination with the constrictions of coproxamol, 30 mg would probably have been a lethal dose.

01:28:28.000 The problem for someone investigating an assassination by succinylcholine is that it metabolizes even after death.

01:28:36.000 And you only pick up the metabolites.

01:28:38.000 In other words, it's one of those drugs that leaves no trace, unless you have a very expert pathologist who really knows what he or she is doing.

01:28:47.000 Now, all you can find is what it metabolizes into.

01:28:51.000 You cannot find the original chemical.

01:28:53.000 Exactly.

01:28:54.000 So you have to look for the enzymes it metabolizes into.

01:28:58.000 You won't find any trace of the original drug.

01:29:00.000 Well, it's like with AIDS.

01:29:01.000 You look for the antibodies, because you can't find the virus.

01:29:06.000 Well, very effectively, yeah.

01:29:07.000 And it's fairly clear that the slash to the wrist was done to disguise the puncture wound.

01:29:13.000 There's no puncture wound, but of course the slash to the wrist would have disguised it.

01:29:17.000 Now the palmar face, or the palmar face of the wrist, effectively the inside face of the wrist, is a very popular method.

01:29:25.000 You know, knee physiologists would use it to inject.

01:29:28.000 It's quite realistic to suppose that David Kelly was injected in the wrist.

01:29:34.000 We've got a break again.

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01:33:03.000 Folks, this is very, very important.

01:33:07.000 Because Tony Blair is a minion of the globalists.

01:33:12.000 He's the tool who's trying to destroy British national sovereignty, to bring the British people under the dominance of the unelected, unaccountable European Union, whether they like it or not.

01:33:24.000 He's been promised the EU headship under a new, expanded, empowered EU, if he can get Britain into it.

01:33:35.000 He lied about the weapons of mass destruction.

01:33:38.000 It's clear that if Tony Blair was to have been exposed, that would certainly hurt those in Europe that want to get rid of British sovereignty.

01:33:48.000 And talking to Michael Shrimpton, our guest, our intelligence expert, who has his sources over there in England, talking to you earlier before the show, you talked about your sources, the evidence you have that It looks like that it was elements of British intelligence or of the government using French intelligence to go and do their dirty work, which by the way is a standard operation.

01:34:18.000 If intelligence agencies are getting rid of some of their own people, they will generally use a sister agency in a sister country.

01:34:26.000 I know this is very delicate, Michael, but can you go over what you talked to me off-air about?

01:34:33.000 Yes, Alex.

01:34:35.000 Firstly, I should make it clear, I have absolutely no indication that anybody in either of the British intelligence agencies, MI5, the Security Service, or MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service, is being involved.

01:34:45.000 On the contrary, my sources are telling me that both services are extremely unhappy.

01:34:50.000 Now, the indications are, and you understand I'm being cautious, aren't I?

01:34:55.000 There are indications pointing towards an involvement by the French External Intelligence Agency, the DGSE, or Direction Générale de la Sécurité Exterieure.

01:35:04.000 But obviously they've got a liaison within the government, the British government.

01:35:07.000 They've got to have someone authorizing this.

01:35:10.000 Are you saying it's just a rogue element wanting to get rid of somebody who can mess up the EU?

01:35:14.000 No.

01:35:15.000 Again, I've got to be obviously careful on air, but the indications are that the tasking for the assassination came from within the UK, but I can't name any individual official or minister.

01:35:29.000 The tasking was generated in the UK, went to Paris, was then OKed in Paris, and on the information available to me, the operational agency for the assassination was DGSE.

01:35:41.000 Now, there are also indications, and I'm, again, obviously Alex, you appreciate I'm expressing myself with caution here, there are indications that DGSE, in order to false flag the assassination, should their team be discovered, used Iraqi intelligence assets from the Iraqi Muqabirat Agency that were available in Damascus after the fall of Baghdad.

01:36:05.000 And I have one source suggesting that an Iraqi team, that's to say, an ex-Muqabirat team recruited in Damascus with the assistance of the Syrian intelligence operation, also the Muqabirat, were flown into Corsica in the seven days prior to the assassination of David Kelly.

01:36:24.000 Now the standard French practice when they carry out assassinations is to take their own team out and I am very doubtful that any of the people involved directly in the assassination of David Kelly are still alive.

01:36:34.000 It would be highly unusual for French to permit anyone involved in an assassination for them to Well, we've seen this in the past.

01:36:43.000 You've had the big controversy the BBC's reported on about the British intelligence using Al-Qaeda individuals to try to kill Muammar Gaddafi.

01:36:54.000 I mean, this is a classic deal.

01:36:56.000 Of course, the Iraqis were allies during the 80s, and so a lot of these guys were trained in the US, trained in England, trained in France, and then bringing these assets back in.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, that was a mess.

01:37:09.000 We could spend another hour on that, Alex.

01:37:13.000 Whoever authorised that operation did not know what they were doing.

01:37:16.000 That was just a total shambles.

01:37:19.000 Well, I mean, wouldn't these Iraqis know that they were doing this hit, that they were going to be in deep trouble afterwards, or were they told, you don't have a choice?

01:37:28.000 Not necessarily.

01:37:28.000 They may not have worked for French Intelligence before.

01:37:31.000 If you were offered a job by French Intelligence, I would turn it down.

01:37:35.000 If I could advise anybody approached by French Intelligence to do a hit, I would strongly advise them to turn it down or increase their life insurance.

01:37:44.000 They were probably, I mean, assuming it was Iraqis, and I can't be positive, there are indications pointing towards an Iraqi involvement, I can't be positive about DGSE, I have a range of sources, as you've said, and those sources point to Paris, and they point towards DGSE.

01:38:02.000 Now DGSE...

01:38:05.000 Now, DGSE is the equivalent of an MI6.

01:38:07.000 It's outward.

01:38:08.000 DGSU is internal.

01:38:11.000 It's the DST, Direction de Surveillance de la Territoire, which is the internal agency.

01:38:18.000 And the DST are internal.

01:38:20.000 DGSE are external.

01:38:22.000 Let's just put it this way, Alex.

01:38:23.000 The operation has all the hallmarks of DGSE.

01:38:26.000 And British intelligence, on my sources, are furious.

01:38:31.000 They are not happy at all.

01:38:32.000 Because David, after all, was a British intelligence asset.

01:38:34.000 Well, by the way, my webmaster, Paul Watson, has talked to a major British news reporter who has talked directly to British intelligence, and they said months ago, I'm talking six months ago, the same thing that you just said here.

01:38:50.000 Oh, that is interesting, because that would be almost certainly a different source to mine.

01:38:55.000 It might be.

01:38:56.000 We're talking to the same people.

01:38:57.000 One of the problems in the intelligence world is loopback.

01:39:00.000 Something you think is independent confirmation may turn out to be.

01:39:05.000 I understand, but I mean clearly from the circumstantial, from the material evidence, you've got murder, you've got a cover-up, you've got a spin, you've got a motive, you've got him telling the U.S.

01:39:16.000 doctor, his colleague, if I don't shut up, I'm going to be found dead in the woods, they're going to kill me.

01:39:20.000 I mean, this is all public now. 0.98

01:39:23.000 We have him saying, they're going to kill me and put me in the woods.

01:39:26.000 You said that you've talked to intelligence people who said, yeah, they knew that Kelly was about to get it before he even died.

01:39:31.000 Can you elaborate on that?

01:39:33.000 Yeah, the source that spoke to me on 19th July, after the assassination, because you see this source was a friend of David Kelly's, and so David was a friend of a friend, and this source obviously was not very happy, it didn't take him five minutes to work out that this was murder, not suicide.

01:39:51.000 He then made inquiries, and he established from Other sources that the murder was known about in advance, i.e.

01:39:59.000 the death of David Kelly was known about within a section of Whitehall prior to the 17th of July and he was very unhappy and that source came through to me and effectively I'm acting as an interface between the media and the intelligence community.

01:40:15.000 It is not possible for the intelligence community to do what I'm doing now and go on to a radio show Well, you have an impeccable record, and you've been involved in a lot of high-profile cases.

01:40:27.000 You've testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for our Senate here, and you write for major intelligence journals.

01:40:34.000 You've certainly impressed me, Mr. Shrimpton, because I study this stuff continually, and you're just massively knowledgeable, more knowledgeable in many areas than I am.

01:40:43.000 I should correct.

01:40:45.000 I didn't testify before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

01:40:48.000 The briefing I gave was a closed briefing. Senator, any senators on the committee, I have in

01:40:55.000 fact, I had the privilege of meeting Senator Graham when he was chairman just briefly, Senator

01:40:59.000 Graham might not even recall the meeting, we met very briefly when I have to be in Congress on

01:41:02.000 another matter. Very nice man.

01:41:05.000 Well, just to be clear, sir, I know when you guys testify, it's always public.

01:41:09.000 Here, most of what they do, obviously, you know is behind doors.

01:41:12.000 That's what I mean.

01:41:13.000 Yeah, this was a, with the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, I was invited into their operation.

01:41:19.000 They're very nice people.

01:41:20.000 And this was a confidential briefing on a case in which I've been involved, which obviously I can't discuss on the air as a courtesy to the guys and girls I briefed in.

01:41:29.000 Very nice people.

01:41:30.000 Absolutely.

01:41:31.000 Now, I was just going over some of your bio for folks.

01:41:34.000 Now, as we sit here looking at this, for those who don't understand why an element inside England would want to use someone outside England who would then use another membrane between them and the hitmen, that's just standard operating procedure, but why would the French be happy to go along with getting rid of Kelly?

01:41:58.000 Well, it would depend on the French assessment of whether or not the government would be at risk.

01:42:03.000 The French would definitely want Tony Blair's government to remain in office.

01:42:09.000 They would be very concerned, indeed, at any suggestion that might risk the government.

01:42:14.000 There's a very strong geopolitical motive for the French retaining their ally.

01:42:19.000 Don't forget that the Blair government is a close ally of President Chirac.

01:42:23.000 There have been a series of private meetings between Prime Minister Blair and President Chirac since the assassination.

01:42:27.000 And they're pushing the Euro, so they believe that if Blair's in danger, the Euro's in danger.

01:42:32.000 Well, exactly.

01:42:33.000 Tony Blair is the most high-profile politician in the UK, committed to destroying the national currency.

01:42:38.000 And the French very much want Blair to remain in office for geopolitical reasons, and we've just had a very unusual summit between Blair, Chirac and the German Chancellor Schroeder.

01:42:48.000 I have to be very cautious.

01:42:49.000 I'm not naming Tony Blair as the person who generated the tasking for the assassination.

01:42:54.000 Indeed, I am quite comfortable that it wasn't Tony Blair who put the tasking into Paris.

01:43:02.000 Now, question marks, what did he know and when did he know it, that there I'm You know, I can't be so confident.

01:43:09.000 Well, obviously Tony Blair's a puppet.

01:43:11.000 I mean, he's not running the entire mechanism of the government, so... Well, he's a puppet Prime Minister anyway, so he's committed to the European Union.

01:43:20.000 I mean, he takes his orders... Like anyone who says we should be in the European Union, you take your orders from Brussels, because that's what government from Brussels involves.

01:43:27.000 Exactly, so... That's the constitutional position.

01:43:30.000 You know, European Community Law is...

01:43:32.000 Supreme, according to the European Union, and it takes precedence over British law. 0.97

01:43:37.000 Yeah, your Magna Carta's gone if that sucker passes. 0.83

01:43:42.000 They're tucked these days, Alex. 0.87

01:43:44.000 But that's a broader issue.

01:43:46.000 You're right, incidentally, on the false flagging.

01:43:51.000 I'm often called upon, formally or informally, usually informally, to deconstruct assassinations, to look at a particular assassination and try and work out what's happened.

01:44:00.000 Basically, in counterintelligence work, we would normally recognise eight methods of trying to disguise an assassination.

01:44:08.000 The first method is you would try and blame it on your political opponents.

01:44:12.000 That was done in Sweden recently with the assassination of Anna Lindh, the very nice Swedish Foreign Minister.

01:44:17.000 An attempt was made to blame that on opponents of Sweden joining the Euro.

01:44:22.000 You can blame it on a terrorist organisation.

01:44:24.000 That was done particularly with the IRA in the attempted assassination of Margaret Thatcher.

01:44:28.000 The assassination of the war hero Airey Neve, a Conservative MP, was blamed on the Irish National Liberation Army.

01:44:35.000 The terrorist organisation might carry out the assassination, but in almost every case, the terrorist organisation is working for a government.

01:44:43.000 A third method of disguising assassinations, Alex, in my experience, is to false flag them.

01:44:48.000 Where it's blamed on another agency.

01:44:51.000 Now there are elements of false flagging in the Kelly assassination, because had the team which carried out the assassination been discovered, clearly it could have been false flagged via Baghdad and, you know, we'd have had three Iraqis in Oxfordshire, assuming it was Iraqis for the sake of argument, and obviously blame would then go to Baghdad and Paris would be off the hook.

01:45:12.000 The Iranians tried that quite successfully with the attempted assassination of the Pope. 1.00

01:45:17.000 and back in the early nineties that they have a lone gunman theory now you guys are very

01:45:21.000 familiar that because uh... you recall that uh... somebody tried to blame

01:45:25.000 lee harvey oswald assassination of president john frederick kennedy and you

01:45:28.000 had amusing suggestion to those of us who now that more about that as a nation that is in the public

01:45:33.000 domain we've had a lone gunman

01:45:35.000 uh... classic example of a lone gunman assassination theory in europe

01:45:39.000 and with the assassination of the dutch politician pimp fortune which is blamed

01:45:43.000 and on a lone gunman An explanation which doesn't carry much weight with me, since in the photographs of the assassin that I saw, there was what appeared to me to be a very thin wire leading up to an earpiece in his right ear, and normally, Alex, lone gunmen don't run around with radios and earpieces.

01:46:02.000 Particularly high-tech ones.

01:46:03.000 Well, it was the same thing with Yishak Rabin.

01:46:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:46:08.000 I mean, Netanyahu's giving speeches about, somebody ought to get rid of this guy, and then Rabin's security steps back and they blow him away.

01:46:17.000 Well, there are certainly respected commentators, General Thomas's, who would say that the Rabin assassination was definitely not down to a lone government.

01:46:28.000 Then you've got illness.

01:46:30.000 Now, this is fairly rare.

01:46:31.000 It's difficult to fake an illness.

01:46:33.000 It was done in the case of a British politician, Hugh Gaitskell, who was opposed to Britain joining the European Economic Community, and he came down with a tropical disease in Moscow in the middle of winter, generally speaking.

01:46:43.000 It was spotted at the time as an assassination, but MI5, although they brought in Porton Down, where David Kelly worked, incidentally, Porton Down were brought in, but Porton Down couldn't work out how the disease which got Hugh Gaitskell, which is lupus disseminatus, a very nasty disease indeed.

01:47:00.000 It attacked the organs very similar to Ebola.

01:47:02.000 How this tropical disease had found its way to Moscow.

01:47:04.000 They couldn't work out how, what the agent was for getting the lupus into Hugh Gaitskell.

01:47:11.000 We now know it was probably aerosol, but at the time that technology wasn't known about in England.

01:47:16.000 Then you've got accident, and there are a couple of interesting political assassinations in Zimbabwe of Road accidents, which I would put a question mark against.

01:47:26.000 It's less common to try and stage accidents, but it's not unknown.

01:47:30.000 A friend of mine was nearly taken out in Argentina a few years ago in what looked to me to be a slightly dubious accident.

01:47:35.000 Well, what about Princess Diana?

01:47:36.000 She says, Prince Charles is going to kill me in a staged automobile accident, and then she dies.

01:47:41.000 Well, the Diana assassination is certainly probably the classic recent example of trying to make it look like an accident.

01:47:48.000 Yeah, we've been having all these microbiologists in government weapons programs will be walking down the street at a university and a van jumps the rail, chases them, runs them over, then backs back over them, drives back over them, and the police just go, an accident, a hit and run.

01:48:04.000 Well, if you want the truth about an assassination, the best people to talk to are the Israelis, because they had Danny Atom, a lovely guy, by the way, who was then head of Mossad in 1997.

01:48:12.000 They're really nice people.

01:48:14.000 Danny had teams, I think, on the entrance to the Alma Tunnel and on the exit as well.

01:48:18.000 Interesting man, lovely chap.

01:48:21.000 Tunnels where?

01:48:22.000 This is the Alma Tunnel where Diana was taken.

01:48:25.000 Oh, yes.

01:48:27.000 The seventh method of disguising assassinations, in my experience, is to try and use a naturally occurring poison.

01:48:33.000 A favourite of intelligence agencies is saxitoxin, which occurs in shellfish.

01:48:39.000 So it's possible, providing you can get some shellfish into the stomach of the victim, a saxitoxin assassination, providing you successfully disguise the puncture wound, or you can find a method of getting the poison into the body.

01:48:53.000 You know, you can get away with that if you're lucky.

01:48:57.000 And then the final method is the one tried in the case of David Kelly, that you try and make the murder look like suicide, but it's very difficult.

01:49:04.000 In this case, the attempt to slash the wrist was pointless, because he was already dead, and there's not enough blood.

01:49:12.000 None of the witnesses, in my judgment, reports enough blood consistent with him bleeding out.

01:49:17.000 And the medical experts that we've talked to, and I've, you know, I've been insisting on this.

01:49:23.000 The medical experts generally reckon that you'll be looking for five pints, that's English pints, of blood.

01:49:30.000 There's nothing I've seen that persuades me that more than a pint was lost and that's about consistent with what you'd expect from transecting one ulnar artery, completely transecting it.

01:49:41.000 It then retracts clots and you get surprisingly little bleeding from cutting your ulnar artery.

01:49:48.000 Well, sir, can we keep you a little bit in the next hour?

01:49:52.000 Because I want to come back and go to Pat and Jim and Lenny and others that have been patiently holding.

01:49:58.000 I'd be delighted to talk to you.

01:49:59.000 I didn't realize.

01:50:00.000 I'm sorry.

01:50:00.000 I've been talking on and I've been keeping people on the phone.

01:50:03.000 I apologize.

01:50:04.000 This is important information because this shows the type of things that are going on in our world.

01:50:10.000 Yeah.

01:50:10.000 And how the media tries to spin this, but why do you think the media have been so willing to go along with the official government story that it's a suicide?

01:50:18.000 Well, the political consequences.

01:50:20.000 The mainstream media in the UK are largely committed to UK membership of the European Union.

01:50:24.000 And my guess is that most of the newspapers in the UK would be worried about the political consequences of going public with any story suggesting David Kelly was assassinated.

01:50:34.000 And then you've got technical competence.

01:50:36.000 There aren't that many good investigative journalists in the UK, and it's not that difficult to get the mainstream media to buy an official version of events.

01:50:47.000 Just, you know, the Fed says this, just write it and go drink a beer.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, it's easy.

01:50:51.000 We'll be back.

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01:54:12.000 Everybody's been holding patiently for our guest.

01:54:15.000 Going back to our guest, Michael Shrempton, national security lawyer, barrister in England.

01:54:21.000 Michael?

01:54:22.000 Yeah?

01:54:23.000 Continuing with what we were discussing, and just briefly recapping, you have a source who, in intelligence, talked to his other sources, and it was widely known in intelligence that there was an order to get rid of Kelly even before he died.

01:54:41.000 My source learned after the assassination that others in Whitehall were aware of the assassination in advance.

01:54:52.000 Yes.

01:54:53.000 And that source had spoken to, obviously he was a friend of David Kelly's, knew him well, had worked with him, and clearly once his friend was found dead in a wood, made investigations, and when he made investigations, he discovered that this assassination was known about in advance.

01:55:10.000 And he told, and this is in the Associated Press, BBC, you name it, he told an American doctor who was on the team with him in Iraq, he said, if I don't shut up about this, I'm going to end up dead in the woods.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, there was also an interesting conversation with David Brucher, who was formerly British Ambassador in Prague in the Czech Republic, along similar lines, and David Brucher, I think, was a witness, in fact, to that inquiry.

01:55:37.000 David Kelly worked... I should... I mean, I never had the privilege of meeting him.

01:55:41.000 I'd love to have met him.

01:55:43.000 My friend certainly worked with him and knew him.

01:55:46.000 David worked very closely with the United States intelligence and worked very closely with Sergeant Mike Pedersen in particular, but I get the impression he was very highly thought of in the U.S.

01:55:58.000 intelligence community as well.

01:56:00.000 Was this done by the pro-EU crowd, the globalists I would call them, to put out a chilling effect into everybody in intelligence to keep your mouths shut?

01:56:11.000 Broadly speaking, yes.

01:56:16.000 Another question altogether.

01:56:17.000 It's tolerably clear, one can't be certain, tolerably clear that he was taken out in order to prevent him talking.

01:56:26.000 Now, what is unclear is whether he was taken out because there was concern he was about to acquire intelligence that might be highly damaging, or taken out because he had acquired it and was about to talk to the media.

01:56:37.000 We know there was concern about the extent of his media contacts.

01:56:41.000 He was also a microbiologist, and there's been a whole bunch of those dying around the world.

01:56:46.000 Let's take a call.

01:56:48.000 Patton, Indiana.

01:56:49.000 Thanks for holding her on the air with our guests.

01:56:51.000 Go ahead.

01:56:52.000 Yes, well, this is a little off the subject, but it has to do with... Ma'am, you don't have your radio on, do you?

01:57:00.000 Yeah, he... Or a speakerphone or something, because I'm not going to be able to talk to you if you don't turn it off.

01:57:04.000 Okay, he did.

01:57:05.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:57:06.000 Okay, uh, it's on a couple subjects, uh, one an early call... I'm going to have to go ahead and put her on hold. 0.99

01:57:11.000 I'm sorry, ma'am, but something's wrong with your phone, or you've got your radio on.

01:57:15.000 Uh, let's try to bring her back up one more time, and I'm going to have to let her go. 1.00

01:57:18.000 Uh, Pat, go ahead.

01:57:19.000 Hello?

01:57:19.000 Yeah?

01:57:20.000 This is on a couple of subjects.

01:57:22.000 I don't know what's wrong because we turned our radio off.

01:57:25.000 Go ahead.

01:57:25.000 Okay, it's alright.

01:57:26.000 Okay, this is on a couple of subjects.

01:57:29.000 One from Earlham College and one from a town hall meeting I had with Mike Pence.

01:57:35.000 Man, is this concerning our guest?

01:57:35.000 On Friday.

01:57:37.000 No.

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01:57:41.000 Nice to talk to you anyway, Pat.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, nice to talk to you.

01:57:44.000 You know, we're about to break and start the next hour, and then we'll sort out what's

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01:58:06.000 I bet you see all kinds of just amazing stuff in your job.

01:58:10.000 I do, yes.

01:58:12.000 Not all that I can talk about on the air.

01:58:14.000 And I meet some very interesting people.

01:58:16.000 And I had a very, very interesting visit to Israel in the middle of last year looking at the new security fence being built.

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02:00:06.000 Alright, my friends.

02:00:09.000 Now into the third hour.

02:00:12.000 Talking to Michael Shrimpton, National Security Barrister in England with his intelligence sources concerning the murder of Dr. David Kelly.

02:00:21.000 And British people are very Very suspicious, as are many other folks around the world.

02:00:32.000 And more and more is coming out.

02:00:34.000 Let's go ahead and go to Jim in Illinois.

02:00:36.000 Jim, thanks for holding.

02:00:37.000 You're on the air with our guest.

02:00:38.000 Go ahead.

02:00:40.000 I have two quick questions.

02:00:42.000 Mrs. Shrimpton, what is David Kelly's wise thing about his murder?

02:00:47.000 Janice Kelly... Hi, Jim.

02:00:49.000 Janice Kelly accepts that it was suicide.

02:00:52.000 At least that's her official position.

02:00:55.000 Okay.

02:00:56.000 My next question, why didn't the British or the American or the Israeli intelligence assassinate Saddam Hussein before the war?

02:01:07.000 Well that's a big question, probably better directed to intelligence officials.

02:01:12.000 Assassination is a very, I mean I'm opposed to assassinations in principle, one of the reasons why I'm outraged by David Kelly's assassination.

02:01:20.000 Assassination is a double-edged sword, and I think had we gone in and taken out Saddam Hussein, that would have rebounded on both Britain and America very quickly. 0.63

02:01:30.000 So I think the call not to assassinate him was probably well made.

02:01:35.000 It's also more difficult to assassinate politicians like Saddam Hussein than first appears.

02:01:40.000 You remember the CIA's ...to try and get rid of Fidel Castro.

02:01:46.000 They had to go for several years and they didn't get anywhere close to assassinating him with exploding cigars and what have you.

02:01:53.000 I would say the call not to take Saddam Hussein out was right. 1.00

02:01:57.000 The danger with assassinating somebody like Saddam Hussein, you build up inside Iraq popular support for his regime. 0.72

02:02:04.000 Yeah, you turn him into a martyr and also it'll cause a revolution even before you get there and then you won't control kind of the way the balls break. 0.92

02:02:14.000 Thanks for the call.

02:02:14.000 That's a really good question.

02:02:16.000 Anything else, Jim?

02:02:17.000 No, thank you.

02:02:18.000 Great to talk to you, Jim.

02:02:19.000 I've got a question.

02:02:20.000 Where is this going?

02:02:23.000 I've got a question for you, Michael.

02:02:25.000 Where is all this going?

02:02:26.000 As more and more doctors and people come forward, and as you come forward and say it's clear that he was murdered, I mean, where does all this go for Tony Blair?

02:02:35.000 Well, there are indications that he may be preparing to resign.

02:02:40.000 He's denied officially over the weekend that he's planning to resign, which is an indication that he is.

02:02:45.000 Never believe anything until it's officially denied.

02:02:48.000 A number of key advisors have bailed out.

02:02:51.000 Alastair Campbell, another key advisor, Philip Gould, has just been offered a peerage, which is a form of retirement we have in England that you don't have in the United States.

02:02:58.000 Michael Meacher months ago.

02:03:00.000 Michael Meacher, yes.

02:03:02.000 There are now calls.

02:03:03.000 Michael Meacher's just issued a call.

02:03:04.000 He's a former government minister.

02:03:07.000 Michael has issued a call over the last weekend, calling on him to go.

02:03:11.000 There are indications that he is on his way out, but it's up to him.

02:03:17.000 Or after his party.

02:03:18.000 Well that would certainly be good.

02:03:20.000 I mean, have you ever had a Prime Minister this bad?

02:03:24.000 Well, that's a political question.

02:03:26.000 The answer is probably, but I can't remember when.

02:03:30.000 It's a close toss-up between Tony Blair, John Major and Lord North, who lost the American colonies.

02:03:37.000 But from your point of view, Lord North is probably quite good to have in Downing Street.

02:03:42.000 That's funny.

02:03:44.000 Neville Chamberlain, I think that without being disrespectful to my Prime Minister on the air, I think it's a close call between Tony Blair and Neville Chamberlain.

02:03:55.000 You could have ten different politicians and economists and military strategists sit around a table and come up with ten different answers as to whether Neville Chamberlain surrendered more of Europe than Tony Blair, and whether Tony Blair surrendered more to France and Germany than Neville Chamberlain did.

02:04:12.000 It's a close-run thing.

02:04:13.000 Well, I think it's clearly Tony Blair if he gets what he wants.

02:04:17.000 Yeah, I have to say, having met Tony Blair, he's quite a pleasant, personable individual.

02:04:25.000 He's not a monster when you meet him.

02:04:27.000 Well, they said that about Adolf Hitler, too.

02:04:30.000 You know, we've got to break.

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02:04:35.000 Who's been on this story and we'll also talk to David in Texas and a few other callers for our guests and we'll get to Bob and Ron and others and a bunch of other key news items.

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02:09:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ethan in Kentucky.

02:09:33.000 Go ahead Ethan.

02:09:34.000 Hello Alex.

02:09:36.000 Um, I want to say I'm not a Christian.

02:09:38.000 I don't consider myself a Christian, but I do think that, uh, because I don't think he is God, but I definitely think he's a revolutionary, wonderful spiritual leader, and I think The Passion was a great movie, and everyone should see it.

02:09:49.000 So you did go see it?

02:09:50.000 Yeah, and I think it totally displays how you will government persecutes the innocent.

02:09:55.000 Well, I wouldn't adhere to any organized religion because I think that it had always been a tool of the elite to control and partition civilizations.

02:10:02.000 Yeah, but that's what Christ was saying, is He was saying this organized thing has turned into a fraud, and He was telling the truth, and I believe He was God.

02:10:12.000 But I totally believe that these puppet masters pulling the strings behind the scenes are involved in satanic ritual abuse of children.

02:10:19.000 Well, we know they are.

02:10:20.000 They've been caught doing it.

02:10:22.000 Well, that's my point.

02:10:23.000 Why does the elite believe in Satan secretly if there really isn't a God?

02:10:27.000 Yeah.

02:10:28.000 Well, they're just obsessed with this... You know, anyone, like you said... So you think it's a manifestation of their psychology that they worship the horned God?

02:10:37.000 No, I believe there's definitely something evil that they worship.

02:10:41.000 I just... I believe in God.

02:10:44.000 I'm just more of a... Not just... I believe in God.

02:10:48.000 One God.

02:10:49.000 I just don't really follow any religion in particular.

02:10:53.000 But I think that they abuse separation of church and state in the name of the phony liberals because they want to use that to crack down on freedom of speech.

02:11:05.000 And then the phony conservatives say Christianity is worshiping government.

02:11:08.000 Thanks for the call.

02:11:09.000 Yep.

02:11:10.000 Look, I'll say this.

02:11:12.000 A liberal conservative of all these terms, when you get down to it, the Republicans and the Democrats have different rhetoric, but their actions are identical.

02:11:23.000 And, I mean, that's really, at the end of the day, what it comes down to.

02:11:30.000 And the elites do believe in the occult.

02:11:33.000 And they do hate real Christianity.

02:11:36.000 They can't stand it.

02:11:39.000 Now, establishment Christianity is something completely different. 0.93

02:11:42.000 It's, you know, the Patriot Act is good, that's what Jay Sekulow says, you know, go along with it.

02:11:48.000 And, you know, some people, some of the Mormons aren't going, they're saying it's too violent, it's R-rated, and that's missing the forest for the trees, or the trees for the forest.

02:12:01.000 Some Protestants, and I'm a Protestant, say, well, it's got some Catholic overtones.

02:12:05.000 My point is, it's better than what Hollywood's been putting out.

02:12:08.000 It's uplifting.

02:12:10.000 It's very biblical.

02:12:12.000 I'd say 98% accurate.

02:12:14.000 I mean, there wasn't really a crow there pulling an eyeball out of one of the murderers' socket or whatever, and then the thief goes to heaven.

02:12:26.000 Or was it vice versa?

02:12:28.000 I mean, there's some stuff in there, but the devil in the four Gospels isn't there dancing around while Christ is dying.

02:12:37.000 But he certainly was there when Christ goes to confront him in hell and take the keys to hell and death.

02:12:43.000 And we know the devil was there throughout Christ's ministry trying to stop him.

02:12:52.000 Great film's all I can say.

02:12:52.000 Great film!

02:12:54.000 Uh, who's up next?

02:12:55.000 Who should I go to next?

02:12:57.000 Emmett in Pennsylvania.

02:12:58.000 Go ahead, Emmett.

02:12:59.000 Yes, Alex.

02:13:01.000 I hate to go against the grain on this, but years ago when I was a boy, we had a pastor, Mal Kerr, and he used to say, if your father was killed by a speeding locomotive, would you walk around with a little locomotive on a chain around your neck?

02:13:18.000 Same thing with, uh, Christ.

02:13:20.000 I don't walk around with a chain with a cross on.

02:13:24.000 I don't want to go see a movie where he's murdered, either.

02:13:26.000 Well, let me just stop you.

02:13:28.000 That's where... That's the sacrifice.

02:13:31.000 That's the loving thing he did.

02:13:32.000 It's a beautiful thing.

02:13:34.000 It was God's decision.

02:13:35.000 And so I don't see how you can say that laying your life down for those that you love, but also those that hate you, is not a wonderful gift.

02:13:46.000 And, you know, for the remission of sins.

02:13:48.000 And so I really... You know, I've heard this line It is, but I wouldn't want to make a profit off of it.

02:13:54.000 Well, you know, there's a famous comedian, Bill Hicks, who I agree with some of what he had to say and disagree with a lot of what he had to say, but he said, yeah, you know, do you think when Jesus comes back, he wants to see a cross?

02:14:05.000 And yes, I think he does.

02:14:07.000 He wants us to remember what he did for us.

02:14:09.000 Let me tell you, if the feds grab me and blow my head off or beat me to death when I'm fighting tyranny, I hope people will remember me for the sacrifice I made.

02:14:20.000 And if the globalists do something to you because you're fighting tyranny, I'm going to try to remember you, and I hope folks will.

02:14:26.000 It's like the Alamo.

02:14:27.000 Remember the Alamo.

02:14:28.000 They didn't say, forget the Alamo, those 186 people that died valiantly for Texas independence.

02:14:36.000 That's true.

02:14:38.000 Yes, Emmett, come on.

02:14:40.000 Oh, well.

02:14:42.000 Everyone has to make up their own decision on this.

02:14:45.000 Well, look, I don't wear a cross, but it's just because I don't wear jewelry.

02:14:48.000 Well, I'm married now, I wear a wedding ring, and half the time I don't, because I can't stand jewelry, but... Hey, thanks for the call.

02:14:54.000 Good to hear from you.

02:14:55.000 I really appreciate it, Emmett.

02:14:57.000 Out of this, though, I mean, it shouldn't get into cross-worship, or, you know, worship of the saints, or, you know, you put that above Christ.

02:15:07.000 Let's talk to Carl in New York.

02:15:10.000 Carl, go ahead.

02:15:11.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:15:12.000 Good!

02:15:14.000 What was it, last month?

02:15:15.000 Both George Bush, Tony Blair, and the Pope were saying that we all worship the same God.

02:15:22.000 Which we certainly don't.

02:15:23.000 I wonder what God they're worshiping.

02:15:26.000 I'm in the middle of a book written by Gail Ripplinger, who was a guest on the show.

02:15:30.000 I think you said that Tex Morris married you and your wife?

02:15:34.000 Yes.

02:15:35.000 Yes, and Gail Ripplinger was his guest one day.

02:15:38.000 And she wrote a book.

02:15:39.000 I forget what it's called.

02:15:40.000 There's one on the King James Bible and another one on the new versions of the Bible.

02:15:46.000 But I'm just curious why on another talk show why it comes into discussion of who married me.

02:15:51.000 I don't under... Oh, you mentioned that yourself.

02:15:54.000 Oh, okay.

02:15:56.000 I was confused why you're... Yeah, I've talked about it.

02:15:58.000 I just didn't... That's why I like Tex Marr.

02:16:02.000 He's a good character.

02:16:04.000 But this Gail Ripplinger was talking about Um, how Satan has gotten into the new versions of the Bible.

02:16:12.000 And she points out example after example in this book.

02:16:14.000 Yeah, these new translations are really bad.

02:16:18.000 They are.

02:16:18.000 And you had a guy on the first hour talking about the Gideon's Bible.

02:16:24.000 The Gideon's Bible is a new version.

02:16:26.000 And it's in all hotels and everything.

02:16:28.000 It's misinforming people.

02:16:30.000 It's changing... This is why, though, I don't have a religious talk show, because everybody fights with everybody.

02:16:36.000 Everybody's got the right sect and doing the right, you know, has the answer.

02:16:40.000 I just fight evil and do unto others as I have them do unto me, and I fight against the New World Order, because I know that's what God wants me to do.

02:16:49.000 I am driven.

02:16:50.000 Thanks for the call.

02:16:50.000 Good to hear from you, Carl.

02:16:52.000 Ruth!

02:16:52.000 Ruth, where are you calling us from?

02:16:54.000 Uh, yes.

02:16:55.000 I was wondering about this movie, The Passion.

02:16:57.000 Yeah, where are you calling us from?

02:16:58.000 Uh, Missouri.

02:17:00.000 Good to talk to you.

02:17:00.000 Go ahead.

02:17:01.000 Good to talk to you.

02:17:02.000 Um, I was wondering though, uh, did it show that he resurrected from the dead?

02:17:05.000 Uh, yes it did.

02:17:06.000 It did?

02:17:07.000 Uh, yes it did.

02:17:08.000 Okay, because, uh, I had heard differently, but... Okay, well I guess I'm lying to you then.

02:17:14.000 Okay, but I kind of agree with the previous caller.

02:17:16.000 I don't trust anything that Hollywood puts out.

02:17:20.000 Well, Hollywood didn't put this out, and Hollywood attacked them.

02:17:25.000 I understand, but I think there's a smoke screen.

02:17:30.000 I don't want to get into my personal life, but I know the Gibsons, and they're good people.

02:17:40.000 Man, I tell you, we are really in trouble if we can't even see something that's good when it's right in front of us.

02:17:46.000 Well, I have a problem, though, when all the mainline churches, and it just seems like everybody's just jumping on board all of a sudden.

02:17:54.000 Well, I mean, look, look, look, they're definitely trying to co-opt it for their own reasons.

02:17:58.000 I mean, you know, look, it's like Bush with this Defense of Marriage Act.

02:18:02.000 He's not doing that because he really is a Christian or cares about marriage.

02:18:06.000 He's doing it because the will of the people demand it.

02:18:09.000 Now, am I saying that this constitutional amendment's good?

02:18:12.000 No, because it'll start a con-con, a constitutional convention, where they can rewrite the whole thing.

02:18:18.000 But, Bush is having to respond on the surface like he is good, because we really have the power.

02:18:25.000 We have to stop having this attitude of, we're defeated, we don't have power.

02:18:29.000 We have the spending power, we have the boycott power, we have the decision-making power, To steer this economy and this society, the problem is we've cowered too long in the shadows and let the tiny, globalist elite run things, and it's time we stop doing that, and it's time we create our own media and our own infrastructure.

02:18:49.000 Look at the fruits of Mel Gibson.

02:18:52.000 Braveheart.

02:18:53.000 The patriot.

02:18:55.000 The passion.

02:18:56.000 And now he says, earlier when I did these violent movies, I was wrong, I was a sinner, I still am a sinner.

02:19:03.000 I'm going to do uplifting things now.

02:19:05.000 And that's what he's trying to do.

02:19:06.000 And if you can't see that it's good, then you better check yourself.

02:19:12.000 Well, not everything in Braveheart was completely good.

02:19:17.000 None of us are without sin.

02:19:19.000 There's a lot of stuff I do that's wrong.

02:19:21.000 Thanks for the call.

02:19:22.000 Listen, I'll tell you what.

02:19:25.000 Mel Gibson and The Passion are a lot better than the New World Order.

02:19:31.000 It's a lot better than the stuff coming out of Hollywood.

02:19:33.000 And I think deep down a lot of people are jealous over Mel Gibson's money and fame.

02:19:38.000 I think there's some envy going on.

02:19:40.000 And, uh, it's... Boy, I tell ya, I can tell it's good.

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02:24:25.000 Good.

02:24:26.000 This is in reference to your last call.

02:24:28.000 I just wanted to make a quick point.

02:24:30.000 The Gibson family, they're a really good family.

02:24:32.000 In fact, I'm going to the Health and Freedom Rally, which is out in Irvine, California, and Hutton Gibson is going to be one of the banquet speakers there.

02:24:41.000 Are you familiar with that rally at all, Alex?

02:24:43.000 Uh-huh.

02:24:43.000 Yeah, I sure am.

02:24:44.000 Are you?

02:24:45.000 I had a question for you in reference to this movie here that he put out.

02:24:53.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:24:55.000 One of the questions that I have is, okay, fighting this tyranny in the United States and throughout the world with the New World Order, I'm a Christian and I have a hard time understanding where the 13 families fit in, and in the Bible, in the book of Revelations, it says there's going to be the Antichrist.

02:25:17.000 I don't quite understand it.

02:25:18.000 Could you explain it a little bit?

02:25:21.000 Sure, I'm going to let you go and try to answer the question as quickly as possible.

02:25:27.000 Duties mine, consequences are God's.

02:25:30.000 Okay?

02:25:31.000 End of story.

02:25:34.000 The infrastructure of the New World Order, I don't make the world fit into a template that preachers have taken and then interpreted the way they want to.

02:25:43.000 You understand?

02:25:44.000 I look at the world with the facts and the documents and the structure of the New World Order, and I report the structure of that New World Order.

02:25:55.000 And so the churches say you're not going to have this because the Bible doesn't say it.

02:26:00.000 Well, that's actually a fraud too.

02:26:02.000 You've got these kings of the earth and they traffic in men's souls and all these evil kings.

02:26:09.000 That's just how the world is set up and how it operates. 0.79

02:26:13.000 And so people try to cram it into some interpretation of Revelations or they try to bring Nostradamus and his garbage quatrains into it.

02:26:22.000 I don't do that. 0.95

02:26:23.000 I'm a Christian.

02:26:24.000 I believe in Jesus Christ.

02:26:25.000 But I am a news program and I look at the world and study the world according to that lens.

02:26:35.000 It's very frustrating, you know, every Christian sect has their own view of the world order and how the world runs and who's behind it. 1.00

02:26:43.000 Well, I mean, I just go off the facts.

02:26:46.000 And, oh, it's strange.

02:26:48.000 When I don't listen to a preacher and I actually read the Bible, it says exactly what I see in the real world.

02:26:54.000 If I go listen to some preacher, most of the time it's completely different.

02:26:58.000 Okay.

02:26:59.000 But, you know, the Founding Fathers didn't go, oh, King George is the Antichrist.

02:27:04.000 We can't fight against him.

02:27:06.000 You know, how can King George be bad?

02:27:10.000 Only the Antichrist can be bad.

02:27:12.000 There's an Antichrist spirit.

02:27:14.000 There's a spirit of wickedness.

02:27:15.000 There's evil people.

02:27:17.000 And, uh, there's organized crime syndicates.

02:27:20.000 And that's what the New World Order is. 0.87

02:27:22.000 It's a big, global, organized crime syndicate, hereditary crime syndicate.

02:27:29.000 And then the religion comes into it, because they're part of a hereditary death cult called the Skull and Bones, and that's just one node of a larger, worldwide cult.

02:27:39.000 According to Helmut Schmidt, German Chancellor, who talked about how he's a member of it, in his own political retrospective of Men and Power, his own autobiography.

02:27:49.000 So, you know, the Bible tells me that evil devil worshippers in high places are under the control of demons and Satan and run things, and then, lo and behold, I study world leaders and they're all Satanists who are under the control of demons they believe.

02:28:04.000 So even if you're an atheist, okay, our world leaders are complete lunatics who believe in the devil, so it might as well be real, because that's the manifestation of what they're creating.

02:28:15.000 And that sounds completely crazy, what I just said, but it's historical, documented, mainstream, fact, hidden in plain view. 0.99

02:28:24.000 So, we could be having world government come down on us right now, and they're going to kill all the Christians. 0.99

02:28:31.000 Well, I'm still going to warn people. 0.96

02:28:33.000 I'm still going to fight evil.

02:28:34.000 I'm still going to stand up.

02:28:36.000 You know, yesterday I read the BBC about how they kidnap kids in Eastern Europe and cut their organs out and kill them and sell the organs. 0.96

02:28:44.000 I mean, I'm going to fight that even if they come kill me.

02:28:47.000 I mean, you ask why?

02:28:49.000 Because I'm just a normal human being with God's basic programming.

02:28:52.000 So these so-called Christians, I hear them, they go, Praise God, it's almost all over. 0.73

02:28:57.000 They're coming out with the microchips.

02:28:59.000 We'll be raptured any minute.

02:29:01.000 And then Pat Robertson goes, actually, the microchip isn't bad, it's not the mark.

02:29:06.000 Go ahead and take it.

02:29:07.000 Forced abortion's okay in China. 0.86

02:29:10.000 And they go, okay, the chip is Christian. 0.76

02:29:12.000 Okay, forced abortion is good. 1.00

02:29:14.000 Hmm, we're beginning to understand.

02:29:16.000 Oh, Jesus actually came back!

02:29:19.000 He's our world leader now!

02:29:20.000 He's bringing us peace!

02:29:23.000 That's what's gonna happen!

02:29:25.000 Ha ha ha!

02:29:26.000 And these people, these people don't understand that yet!

02:29:30.000 That's what I see happening.

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02:32:56.000 Okay my friends, we'll get to Ruth and Gary and Don and Dan and Howard taking a lot of calls on the show today.

02:33:02.000 Probably took 20 calls in the first hour alone.

02:33:05.000 Then we had that interview with that guest from Monday people wanted to hear again.

02:33:09.000 So I got a few news stories, five or six, I want to get to as well.

02:33:14.000 Before we do that, I want to remind the listeners that I've made 10 documentary films, written a book, and published a book.

02:33:22.000 And they're all excellent.

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02:33:25.000 And people ask, well, how do you have 13 Illuminati families and then have an Antichrist?

02:33:31.000 Well, I mean, they're the dark workers of the New World Order. 1.00

02:33:34.000 And believe me, I've looked at these families.

02:33:35.000 They all are into the occult.

02:33:37.000 It's public.

02:33:38.000 And they're the stewards of this system, bringing it in.

02:33:42.000 And they're openly setting up a world government.

02:33:46.000 And with a world government, you're going to have a world leader.

02:33:48.000 So, you know, the caller asked, well, how do we have this world government forming?

02:33:52.000 Where's the Antichrist?

02:33:53.000 Well, they're building the platform for it.

02:33:56.000 And even if you don't believe in God and the devil and all that, they are building a tyrannical world government.

02:34:02.000 And, you know, a book written thousands of years ago said they would.

02:34:07.000 Very interesting.

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02:36:36.000 Always a pleasure to be with you.

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02:36:40.000 No, I haven't.

02:36:41.000 We're planning on doing that next week and taking the kids and the in-laws and just making it a big get-together.

02:36:47.000 That's going to be wonderful.

02:36:47.000 Good.

02:36:49.000 Best film I've ever seen.

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02:36:50.000 And it's exciting to hear Mel Gibson is going to make more biblically-based films, he said, in variety.

02:36:57.000 Well, I think that he's really shown some real intestinal fortitude in doing this because it's not a popular thing to do.

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02:37:09.000 He said, he said, you're going to be persecuted.

02:37:11.000 Well, and I think that Mel is experiencing firsthand, jeez, if he gets that much persecution just from telling the story, what about the guy who lived the story?

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02:37:30.000 They're very radical.

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02:41:09.000 Thank you for holding.

02:41:10.000 Ruth in Pennsylvania.

02:41:11.000 Ruth, go ahead.

02:41:13.000 Yes, I saw The Passion yesterday, and I have nothing but positive things to say about it, but I'd rather speak about Mel Gibson and some of the surrounding issues with it.

02:41:22.000 I've been familiar with Mel Gibson's career since back in the late 70s and 80s and watched the films that came out then.

02:41:28.000 Anybody who knows his work from beginning to end He is nothing but a good person.

02:41:33.000 I mean, his movies, Gallipoli and Breaker Morant, are two of the best movies.

02:41:37.000 They're powerful.

02:41:38.000 They show character, integrity, honesty.

02:41:42.000 He chooses, he tries to choose scripts that are uplifting, where the good guys fight against the bad guys.

02:41:50.000 When I came home from the Passion last night, I was watching some of the criticisms, and the worst I've ever heard from the beginning of this whole controversy came on Educational TV on Charlie Rose Show, where he had Christopher Hutchins and a panel of journalists.

02:42:07.000 They ripped apart the people who went to the movie, Mel Gibson.

02:42:11.000 They didn't leave anybody unscathed. 0.98

02:42:13.000 They were ugly. 0.99

02:42:14.000 They were so vicious. 0.99

02:42:16.000 They said that the only people that are going to go to this movie are right-wing Christians or get a load of this.

02:42:21.000 People who like movies like Snuff, Yeah, they make movies with senseless murder.

02:42:31.000 I mean I've sat there in movies and I've walked out.

02:42:33.000 I went to see Natural Born Killers when I was in college.

02:42:38.000 And we got up at the end.

02:42:40.000 I mean, I was there with UT football players.

02:42:43.000 And we all got up and left because they would kill police officers, kill children.

02:42:48.000 The crowd would laugh.

02:42:49.000 You know, you watch the crowd laugh.

02:42:51.000 You watch these TV shows.

02:42:52.000 They're torturing people.

02:42:53.000 This is good.

02:42:54.000 There's no Bill of Rights.

02:42:55.000 That's all cute and funny, chaining somebody down and torturing them.

02:42:59.000 And so the culture that says torture's good sees a film that's historical showing Somebody laying themselves down for us, and yeah, I've heard them say it's like a snot film.

02:43:11.000 Okay, I've heard that.

02:43:12.000 Well, you said something earlier today that I thought that was new.

02:43:15.000 Same impression I had.

02:43:16.000 That there's all this gratuitous violence in Hollywood, but it's not the kind of violence you feel because they shoot them, they tear them apart, but you really don't feel the suffering.

02:43:24.000 It's like a cartoonish version of violence.

02:43:26.000 It's a desensitization.

02:43:27.000 Exactly.

02:43:28.000 And they don't like this because you feel it.

02:43:30.000 You feel the suffering.

02:43:31.000 That suffering in this movie was very important.

02:43:34.000 It's against violence.

02:43:35.000 It makes us feel bad.

02:43:36.000 Exactly.

02:43:37.000 I guarantee you, police watching that, abusive cops that like to beat people up, aren't going to be beating as many people up after watching that.

02:43:45.000 Exactly.

02:43:45.000 This film is uplifting and good.

02:43:48.000 It's a love story.

02:43:49.000 It's a love story from Jesus.

02:43:50.000 He says in the movie that the greatest thing you can do is to lay down your life for your friend.

02:43:54.000 He talks about that.

02:43:56.000 All his lines are about love and forgiveness.

02:43:58.000 How are people missing this stuff?

02:44:00.000 They don't talk about it.

02:44:01.000 Well, I mean, you know, the very elect would be deceived.

02:44:04.000 Thanks for the call.

02:44:06.000 Good points.

02:44:07.000 Gary in Ohio.

02:44:08.000 Gary, go ahead.

02:44:09.000 Hi, Alex.

02:44:12.000 Ruth just stole my thunder. 1.00

02:44:13.000 I was going to point out that Charlie Rosen interview.

02:44:15.000 I couldn't believe how callous those... I saw a... I forget, it was some rabbi from the ADL a few months ago called it a snuff film.

02:44:25.000 It was on the O'Reilly Factor. 0.97

02:44:29.000 That's really ridiculous.

02:44:31.000 The reason I called is that I had been watching my local news and they had two broadcasters, a pre-release A showing of it, a church group had sponsored it, and of course everybody was very, very positive.

02:44:45.000 Now last night, when it actually opened for the public, they interviewed people again.

02:44:49.000 Some of them were Christians, but some of them were not.

02:44:51.000 But yet, amazingly, everyone had a very, very positive reaction.

02:44:55.000 Let me tell you a story.

02:44:56.000 Let me tell you a story.

02:44:59.000 I got there at 3 o'clock with my cousin.

02:45:02.000 My wife hasn't seen it yet.

02:45:04.000 She wants to go when the crowds aren't so big.

02:45:06.000 She can't stand watching a movie with 15 crying kids, which is what happened.

02:45:11.000 But, I'm sitting there, and as we get in there, sit down at 3 o'clock, good seats, I walk outside and I watch for 15 minutes CBS and Fox interviewing people.

02:45:23.000 And they would, it's the same thing we saw at the airport.

02:45:26.000 You know, oh, do you like security?

02:45:28.000 Forty-something people say no, it's a fraud, they find one old lady who loves it, that's on the news.

02:45:33.000 I watched Fox and CBS sit there and interview, in the fifteen minutes, had to be twenty, thirty people.

02:45:40.000 When they finally got one person who didn't like it, guess what was on the news last night?

02:45:47.000 The one person who didn't like it?

02:45:48.000 So, I mean, yeah, time and time again, we watch this happen.

02:45:52.000 So yeah, they had massive trouble finding somebody that didn't like it, And, you know, I saw hippies, I saw, you know, the stoners, I saw the conservatives, I saw blacks, whites, Hispanics, Catholics, you know, with the cross on the head deal for yesterday.

02:46:09.000 I saw everybody there.

02:46:11.000 And so for them to try that is a total fraud.

02:46:14.000 You know, to try to say, oh well, you know, it's just one little group.

02:46:19.000 What's funny is it's obvious it's a total fraud and people are catching on to that.

02:46:24.000 And it's going to backfire on them, I guarantee it.

02:46:26.000 That's exactly what's happened is it's blown up in their face.

02:46:28.000 Thanks for the call.

02:46:30.000 Let's talk to Don in Indiana.

02:46:32.000 Don, go ahead.

02:46:35.000 Good to talk to you, Don.

02:46:36.000 You're on the air.

02:46:37.000 Okay, Don's gone.

02:46:40.000 Let's talk to Dan in Oklahoma.

02:46:41.000 Dan, go ahead.

02:46:43.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:46:44.000 Good.

02:46:44.000 My family last night and my daughter's agnostic boyfriend.

02:46:51.000 And let me tell you, it was something else.

02:46:53.000 I mean, everybody that walked out of there was so somber looking.

02:46:57.000 It really hit them.

02:46:58.000 But during the entire movie, it was quiet, except for the point where he stepped on the serpent's head.

02:47:05.000 And then some G.I.

02:47:06.000 behind me shouted, All right!

02:47:08.000 And then the rest of the crowd did.

02:47:09.000 But after that, it was just really quiet.

02:47:12.000 And I mean, people weren't leaving to go get popcorn.

02:47:15.000 Just the kids.

02:47:16.000 They might go get it.

02:47:17.000 But everybody else was scared.

02:47:18.000 I mean, they didn't want to miss a scene.

02:47:21.000 And all of the Theaters, they showed three here at Fort Sill and all of them were full.

02:47:28.000 And there was people, like I said, agnostic atheists that wanted to go see this thing.

02:47:33.000 But I could see it really hit him hard, because he had been in denial that Jesus Christ had walked the earth and all this other stuff.

02:47:42.000 Oh, people still deny that despite all the historians that were there on scene.

02:47:47.000 I mean, the Roman histories say this guy did rise again and This stuff really happened, folks.

02:47:53.000 There's a reason people follow.

02:47:56.000 The world just can't stand it, but it shows what making a stand, putting out good material can do.

02:48:02.000 It can really counter the globalists.

02:48:05.000 Your agnostic friend, did he wake up or did he cry?

02:48:11.000 No, it looked like he was in shock.

02:48:13.000 That's what it looked like.

02:48:14.000 I can't believe the suffering this man went through.

02:48:18.000 Well, I want people to know that the globalist enforcers do that to other people every day.

02:48:25.000 To the innocents.

02:48:26.000 And I want people to know that that's what the New World Order is all about. 0.69

02:48:29.000 What you saw those Romans doing. 0.97

02:48:30.000 They want to do that again.

02:48:32.000 And that's why all these TV shows promote torture and promote evil.

02:48:35.000 They're trying to bring that back in.

02:48:37.000 And that's what we're fighting.

02:48:38.000 Thanks for the call.

02:48:41.000 Let's go back to Don now that he's back.

02:48:43.000 Don, go ahead.

02:48:43.000 Hello, Alex.

02:48:45.000 Yes.

02:48:46.000 I saw that film last night.

02:48:49.000 If you want to call it a film.

02:48:51.000 It was more of an experience, I felt.

02:48:53.000 Yeah, it was.

02:48:54.000 Things haven't changed much in 2,000 years, have they?

02:48:56.000 That one part about Satan carrying the child around in a crowd, what do you think the significance of that was?

02:49:06.000 Where it turned out to be an evil man?

02:49:09.000 It was just, you know, symbolism of just Demonic.

02:49:15.000 Very deep.

02:49:16.000 I thought about that as well.

02:49:17.000 My what?

02:49:18.000 Is it, you know, showing Christ has got his children, the devil's got his children.

02:49:23.000 That's what I thought, too.

02:49:25.000 The literary license that he took in reference to the raven that plucked the eye out of one of the thieves, I was reading once in a comic, Crucifixions, and I guess that they did have a problem with ravens.

02:49:38.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:49:39.000 The birds did pull people's eyes out while they were still alive.

02:49:42.000 That's him.

02:49:43.000 I mean, look, I've read accounts of cat or nine tails on ships.

02:49:46.000 That's what it does.

02:49:47.000 But normally you get, you know, 10, 20.

02:49:50.000 Over 20 generally kills you.

02:49:52.000 Yeah.

02:49:52.000 If somebody's really swinging a real cat or nine.

02:49:55.000 Well, what do you think about children seeing this movie?

02:49:58.000 I think they should.

02:50:00.000 I mean, when I was five years old, I was shooting deer and gutting them.

02:50:04.000 I mean, we need to know.

02:50:05.000 I don't like, I've always said, I don't like violence that is pointless or that is glorified.

02:50:11.000 You know, indiscriminate.

02:50:12.000 This is good because it shows us what reality is.

02:50:17.000 What part of that movie is most gripping to you?

02:50:21.000 I have to say the counter nine tails.

02:50:22.000 Yeah, nine tails.

02:50:24.000 Yeah, and then hauling him up.

02:50:26.000 For some reason it was the walk with the cross that really affected me.

02:50:30.000 Well, I think, you know, when Christ gives up the ghost and, you know, in a way, how beautiful His face is in that surrender after the sacrifice.

02:50:39.000 I mean, that one frame of cellulose.

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02:53:42.000 You know, I don't think that you can say one part is more gripping or more deep than another.

02:53:57.000 I mean, I would agree with what Don was saying, where Christ falls down hauling the cross and his mother runs up to him and she sees him as a little boy.

02:54:05.000 I mean, that is very intense.

02:54:08.000 And you know how grueling it is when he's hauling the cross around. 0.96

02:54:11.000 Don, real quick, finish up because I'm going to try to cram a few more in here.

02:54:16.000 Okay, I just want to say that I'd recommend that film for everyone.

02:54:20.000 I believe God's going to use this to bring in the final harvest of Christianity around the world, and what is going to take place is going to take place. 1.00

02:54:29.000 I think it really helps.

02:54:31.000 I think it's overall a very uplifting and a good thing.

02:54:33.000 Thanks, Don.

02:54:35.000 Let's talk to Howard in Michigan.

02:54:37.000 Go ahead, Howard.

02:54:38.000 Hi, Alex.

02:54:39.000 Thanks for all you do.

02:54:40.000 Thank you.

02:54:41.000 I'm calling regarding the Senate bill.

02:54:45.000 659 regarding the lawsuit for the gun manufacturers?

02:54:47.000 Oh, yes.

02:54:48.000 Yeah, I missed the first part of your show, so you might have already hit this, but they've tied two amendments to that bill.

02:54:54.000 Yeah, they've tied gun control to the gun show loophole, they've shut down the gun shows, and they've tied the assault weapons ban back to it.

02:55:02.000 Right.

02:55:02.000 So anybody that called their senators and told them they wanted them to vote for it, they better call and tell them not to.

02:55:09.000 Tell them we are going to put up with another hatred act.

02:55:14.000 Absolutely, good to hear from you.

02:55:16.000 Okay, thanks.

02:55:17.000 You bet.

02:55:17.000 Wanda in Texas.

02:55:18.000 Wanda, go ahead. 0.99

02:55:20.000 Yes, thank you, Alex.

02:55:23.000 I want to bring an issue to the attention of the people down here in West Texas, around Colorado City, Texas.

02:55:29.000 Okay.

02:55:30.000 We've got Attorney Pat Barber down here.

02:55:33.000 Yeah, he put the sign up on his land saying, stay out of checkpoints.

02:55:37.000 Right.

02:55:37.000 Well, he took it to the Texas Supreme Court and lost.

02:55:41.000 But now he's took it to the U.S.

02:55:43.000 Supreme Court.

02:55:44.000 Yeah, they say on his own property, McDonald's can have a sign on their own property on the highway there, but he can't have a sign on his own ranch saying you got a Fourth Amendment.

02:55:52.000 Well, he just had a great win in the U.S.

02:55:54.000 Supreme Court.

02:55:55.000 He did?

02:55:56.000 Yes, he did.

02:55:57.000 And I emailed it to you.

02:55:58.000 And they said he can.

02:55:59.000 Now, he's going to be putting up billboards down 20 and have everybody sign them.

02:56:04.000 Now, this is on the Fourth Amendment for searches and seizures.

02:56:08.000 Good, good.

02:56:09.000 I have talked with his office and they would like to get on your show.

02:56:14.000 Okay.

02:56:15.000 I had him on a few years ago.

02:56:17.000 Please email me or call with his number and I'll get Pat Barber back on.

02:56:20.000 Okay, I sure will.

02:56:22.000 Thank you.

02:56:22.000 You're awesome.

02:56:23.000 Thank you.

02:56:23.000 Final call.

02:56:25.000 Let's talk to Jeff.

02:56:26.000 Jeff, where are you calling us from?

02:56:29.000 Montana.

02:56:30.000 Go ahead.

02:56:30.000 You've got the tail gunner spot.

02:56:33.000 Oh, cool.

02:56:34.000 That movie was an experience that everybody has to see.

02:56:40.000 During the Ketamine, I actually had water.

02:56:43.000 I mean, I was sweating so hard.

02:56:46.000 My shirt was soaked.

02:56:48.000 I was just ripping down it.

02:56:50.000 And by the way, there's lots of stuff more violent in other movies.

02:56:53.000 Why is this so intense?

02:56:54.000 Because our soul knows it's real and knows how important this is.

02:57:00.000 True, true.

02:57:01.000 And one of the other callers was talking about the child.

02:57:08.000 I foresaw that as Satan trying to get Jesus to renounce the Lord.

02:57:15.000 And say, see, I take care of my child.

02:57:17.000 See how my child hugs me and loves me?

02:57:20.000 Exactly!

02:57:20.000 That's, it was the devil, a good point, making fun and saying, see, your father's forsaken you.

02:57:24.000 Thanks, thanks for the call.

02:57:26.000 A great, great point.

02:57:27.000 I didn't think of that.

02:57:28.000 I agree, that's it.

02:57:30.000 You're right.

02:57:30.000 Putting our minds together here.

02:57:33.000 Out of time, back tonight, 9 to midnight Central Standard Time.

02:57:36.000 And back tomorrow, 11 to 2 Central during the day.

02:57:40.000 Great broadcast.

02:57:44.000 And, well, Durable goods orders, log surprise, drop in January, USA Today.

02:57:49.000 Orders for durable manufactured goods dropped unexpectedly in January, as demand for aircraft and cars fell sharply, government reports showed, on Thursday.

02:57:58.000 And the dollar's plunging more, but it's all part of the plan.

02:58:03.000 They tell you how good the economy is, in reality, it's unraveling.

02:58:07.000 Greenspan says, hey, we gotta go ahead and take your social security.

02:58:10.000 They already stole your money, folks, and now they're getting ready to take all your welfare away.

02:58:15.000 If you'd have kept your own money, you'd have millions of dollars, but now you get nothing.

02:58:20.000 So this is part of the enslavement.

02:58:22.000 Get us addicted to government, then go to the fascist model and take it all away.

02:58:25.000 I'm out of time.

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