Alex Jones Show - 20040507_Fri_Alex

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Well, my friends, coast to coast, overseas, all the ships at sea, it is Friday, the seventh day of May, 2004.

00:00:40.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and we're going to be here with you live for the next several hours.

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00:01:16.000 All right, my friends.

00:01:18.000 I'm going to get back into torture today, but not the torture story itself.

00:01:22.000 How the media is spinning this, how the White House is spinning this, how the Defense Department is handling it.

00:01:30.000 The whitewash, the soft soap, the kangaroo operation they're running on us. 1.00

00:01:38.000 I want to go back over the Army's own report where they admit brutal sodomy of detainees, raping of women.

00:01:45.000 All admitted the Army's own Article 15-6 investigation of the 800th Military Police Brigade by Major General Antonio M. de Gumba.

00:01:55.000 Now, this is all admitted.

00:02:00.000 And this morning my alarm clock went off at 7 a.m.

00:02:03.000 I swept in a little bit later today till 7 a.m.

00:02:07.000 And I heard a national talk show host saying, what's the big deal?

00:02:14.000 This is just frat house fun. 0.84

00:02:16.000 These people are trying to kill us. 0.90

00:02:18.000 I think it's a good thing. 0.77

00:02:22.000 That was a national talk show host.

00:02:23.000 Another national talk show host.

00:02:25.000 I mean, I've heard the Glenn Beck Show, what we've got filling in for him.

00:02:28.000 I've heard Savage, now Limbaugh, and another national talk show host this morning.

00:02:34.000 I mean, I'm being woken up by this now.

00:02:37.000 It's just everywhere.

00:02:39.000 It's all over the place.

00:02:41.000 And we've got a clip of Rush Limbaugh going, hey, what's the big deal?

00:02:45.000 It's frat house fun, just like Skull and Bones, he said.

00:02:48.000 We've got a short clip.

00:02:49.000 His comments are even longer.

00:02:50.000 You can read the transcript of it on PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:02:53.000 I mean, this is the conservatism?

00:02:55.000 The guy that won't tell you that Bush is going to sign the assault weapons ban?

00:02:58.000 The guy that won't talk about Bush and the open borders?

00:03:01.000 The guy that is so hopped up on synthetic heroin That, you know, half the time he can't even get out of his house?

00:03:10.000 This is our conservative.

00:03:13.000 I thought Skull and Bones didn't exist, you said two months ago, Limbaugh.

00:03:17.000 Get your lies and chickening behavior straight.

00:03:20.000 I tell you what, let's go ahead and air that clip now, we'll come back and air it again.

00:03:23.000 Listen to this.

00:03:25.000 What's psychologically wrong with that?

00:03:27.000 It's not the axe so much, it was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked... Exactly! 0.60

00:03:35.000 Exactly my point!

00:03:37.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hamper them because they had a good time.

00:03:51.000 These people are being fired at every day.

00:03:53.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

00:03:55.000 These people, you ever heard of emotional release?

00:03:58.000 You ever heard of need to blow some steam off?

00:04:02.000 And Americans are going to be tortured because of this.

00:04:05.000 Police are going to carry this out on you and your family.

00:04:09.000 This is shows like Threat Matrix 24, NYPD Blue, Torture Every Episode is Good of Citizens, the media is saying torture is good.

00:04:18.000 Just having a good time.

00:04:19.000 So, I guess when somebody rapes your wife or daughter, they should just tell the judge, hey, I was just having a good time.

00:04:26.000 I was blowing off some steam. 0.97

00:04:27.000 Raping people with giant objects dripping with battery acid. 0.99

00:04:33.000 Raping women. 1.00

00:04:36.000 Beating people to death is just having a good time, like Skull and Bones. 1.00

00:04:40.000 You know, Skull and Bones are just having fun. 0.50

00:04:43.000 At the Bohemian Grove, they're just having fun.

00:04:45.000 I mean, the Nazis didn't talk about this stuff publicly.

00:04:48.000 The Russian Soviets didn't. 0.63

00:04:50.000 The Chaikoms don't. 1.00

00:04:51.000 No, only America. 0.99

00:04:53.000 This is disgusting. 0.99

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00:08:13.000 Hello, my friends.

00:08:16.000 you Thank you for joining us.

00:08:20.000 It is Friday, the seventh day of May, 2004.

00:08:26.000 I'm looking at a photo of U.S.

00:08:27.000 troops mistreating an elderly Iraqi woman, making her crawl through the sharp rocks on her hands and knees with a dog leash on her neck.

00:08:35.000 We've played the audio of the video we have on PrisonPlanet.tv, where they think people have stolen three pieces of firewood out of a field.

00:08:44.000 So they laugh at them, machine gun their little vehicle, and then run over it with a tank, laughing, just doing their job, just blowing off some steam.

00:08:57.000 The Army's own report, and I guess I've got to read this again, U.S.

00:09:00.000 Army Report on Iraqi Prisoner Abuse, complete text of Article 15-6 Investigation of the 800th Military Police Brigade by Major General Antonio M. Togumba.

00:09:12.000 And this is the unedited report.

00:09:15.000 It's on PrisonPlanet.TV. 0.99

00:09:20.000 And he talks about raping women. 0.99

00:09:24.000 They have a nice way of spinning it. 1.00

00:09:25.000 They say an MP guard having sex with a female detainee. 0.97

00:09:29.000 What is that called when you have sex with someone in your custody in a jail cell? 0.96

00:09:33.000 Of course, you have to admit all this because there's photos of the rape.

00:09:36.000 Then the CIA put out fake rape photos to try to confuse everything, but no, the government and the media is holding back the actual rape photos, but the general talks about seeing all the photos and the admissions.

00:09:46.000 They have sodomizing people with things I'm not going to mention. 0.58

00:09:53.000 Folks, the stuff in here is so horrible. 0.96

00:09:56.000 Beating people to death.

00:09:58.000 This is now admitted. 1.00

00:09:59.000 Beating people to death.

00:10:02.000 Now, Joseph Mingala, the Nazi scientist, did things similar to this. 0.73

00:10:09.000 This is the exact type of stuff he did. 0.55

00:10:13.000 Pouring acid on people's genitalia and things along these lines.

00:10:18.000 This morning, my alarm clock goes off at 7 a.m. 0.95

00:10:23.000 and I am sitting up in bed, about to go take a shower, looking out the window, and I listen to uh... one of the most socialist fake neocons uh... engaging

00:10:37.000 in a very sophisticated psychological warfare operation

00:10:41.000 uh...

00:10:42.000 talking about jail guards in america and how we take too good a care of our

00:10:46.000 prisoners and how this is no big deal everything good stephanie

00:10:54.000 Thank you.

00:10:56.000 Okay, you have to understand, folks, I'm down here in Austin, Texas, And they're up in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and I just got the worst static in my ear you can imagine, and I was wondering if we were still connected up with the network in Minnesota, and we are.

00:11:11.000 Good.

00:11:13.000 Just continuing.

00:11:14.000 So he goes into this diatribe about, uh, well, you know, it's incredible.

00:11:19.000 These prisoners in these jails in America, they get $300 flat screen TVs.

00:11:27.000 Why most of us don't have flat screen TVs.

00:11:30.000 And I have to be honest, I mean, I'm not going to go drop A $300 flat screen TV, it must be about 10 inches.

00:11:35.000 I mean, the kind I would want would cost $5,000 and I don't have the money and don't want to spend the money on something like that.

00:11:41.000 But he goes into this clash and he's kind of like a classical liberal with this veneer of conservatism and, oh, these evil prisoners in America and, you know, our guards have got to get tough with them and what's the big deal?

00:11:51.000 And he went on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

00:11:57.000 Using class envy.

00:11:58.000 Well, and he had to admit that they pay for it with their own money.

00:12:01.000 I mean, this guy was a computer draftsman getting 20 cents an hour and took him a year to save up for it and he bought it from the prison itself.

00:12:08.000 So, you're a slave displacing other workers in America for 20 cents an hour when a computer-aided draftsman, what, gets $20, $30, $50 an hour depending on where they work.

00:12:21.000 You're going to lose your job now.

00:12:22.000 In fact, many people have.

00:12:24.000 to these individuals in the prisons.

00:12:26.000 They're taking over every industry.

00:12:27.000 But no discussion of that. 0.99

00:12:29.000 It's how he's evil and lazy and bad. 0.97

00:12:31.000 Oh, really? 0.56

00:12:32.000 I have family in East Texas.

00:12:34.000 One of them, a great uncle, a veteran of two wars, and he's an old man, still works, worked for the Post Office, didn't like that, so he's a prison guard.

00:12:42.000 And he says he wishes they had televisions in there.

00:12:45.000 He wishes they gave them something to do.

00:12:46.000 I mean, if you're going to be in there, you might as well give them something to do.

00:12:50.000 But all that aside, he starts out with his discussion of, they shouldn't be able to have these flat screen TVs, we need to stop being so nice to the prisoners, and how 16 states allow them to have televisions, and oh my gosh, they're saving up for a year to buy their own television!

00:13:10.000 Oh my goodness, you know, we can't afford that.

00:13:12.000 How come the prisoners can have it?

00:13:14.000 Man, we gotta get tougher on these people.

00:13:16.000 So that's the psychology.

00:13:17.000 Then he cuts to, and they must be reading off a script, and says, this is just prank fun.

00:13:22.000 This is blowing off steam.

00:13:24.000 The exact words of Limbaugh.

00:13:26.000 You may have heard it this morning.

00:13:28.000 You know, they're under pressure.

00:13:30.000 They're just having some fun.

00:13:32.000 They're getting shot at every day.

00:13:33.000 This is the enemy.

00:13:35.000 This is no big deal.

00:13:36.000 This is just like fraternity fun. 1.00

00:13:39.000 Is fraternity fun raping women? 1.00

00:13:41.000 Is it raping men with giant objects dripping with battery acid? 0.99

00:13:45.000 And some stuff here I can't even read on air that's even worse. 0.91

00:13:50.000 Is that fraternity fun?

00:13:55.000 And Limbaugh, folks, I listen to talk radio when I'm out doing errands.

00:13:59.000 And I scan through the dial, I spend about five minutes per show, I'm stuck in traffic for thirty minutes. 0.99

00:14:06.000 It runs the gamut from good, torture them, kill them, kill them all, kill everybody in Fallujah, kill all the children, kill everyone, to a Rush Limbaugh or a Gallagher going, oh, they're just having fun. 0.99

00:14:17.000 Now, again, I want to state this for you. 1.00

00:14:20.000 This is the mass warping of the mind.

00:14:22.000 Long before this torture was big in the news, I was talking about it every day.

00:14:27.000 Why?

00:14:27.000 Because it's a key indicator that we're all about to be in really deep trouble.

00:14:32.000 When every cop show and every drama, everyone I've seen on television, every time I turn it on, they're torturing people.

00:14:41.000 Now I know you've had to see this.

00:14:43.000 And half the time it's a militia member, a conservative, a homeschooler, their children are taken, they're tortured, they're put in a FEMA camp.

00:14:51.000 I mean, this is what's on TV.

00:14:54.000 Martial Law is good, whether it's Nightline, they have these shows, or whether it's a fiction show like 24 Threat Matrix or 10.5 or whatever.

00:15:04.000 All these shows, every time!

00:15:08.000 It's painful, I'll sit down twice a week, turn on the TV, flip through channels for 30 minutes, And every show, every time, in every order, it doesn't matter.

00:15:18.000 Mass conditioning, law enforcement magazines, New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press.

00:15:24.000 Torture's good, the virtues of torture. 0.66

00:15:26.000 Let's pull their teeth out with pliers. 1.00

00:15:28.000 Let's torture them. 1.00

00:15:29.000 The CIA section chief almost two years ago in the Washington Post bragging that, well, we don't do the torturing, we oversee it. 0.64

00:15:37.000 We fly these people out to Egypt. 0.99

00:15:39.000 And to other countries, to Jordan, where we can, quote, torture them and torture their children in front of them. 0.99

00:15:47.000 And actually said that! 0.93

00:15:50.000 I mean, Joseph Mingala wasn't in the German newspapers bragging about the horrible things he was doing to Jews.

00:15:59.000 And Alan Dershowitz has come out.

00:16:01.000 We've played clips of him here, the so-called liberal, who's Grace of Rush Limbaugh, that torture's good, we need to do this, and I've got a couple clips in Masters of Terror, where they get on there and talk about stopping people's hearts with these torture machines, which they've deployed, and making them answer questions, and then they'll turn their heart and lungs back on.

00:16:22.000 The most sinister, incredible wickedness you can imagine.

00:16:27.000 And every time I turn the radio on, it runs the gamut from torture and kill them all, torture their children, to what Limbaugh and Gallagher say, oh they're just having fun. 0.98

00:16:37.000 Go ahead and play Rush Limbaugh for them. 0.99

00:16:39.000 This is Rush Limbaugh two days ago.

00:16:41.000 Here it is.

00:16:44.000 What's psychologically wrong with that?

00:16:46.000 It's not the act so much.

00:16:47.000 It was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked men and women. 0.82

00:16:53.000 Exactly!

00:16:54.000 Exactly my point!

00:16:56.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort and then we're going to really hamper them because they had a good time.

00:17:10.000 These people are being fired at every day.

00:17:12.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

00:17:14.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

00:17:17.000 You ever heard of needing to blow some steam off? 0.73

00:17:20.000 So, if you've had a stressful day, just go out and grab a woman, knock her teeth out, drag her behind some bushes, and pour some battery acid on her. 1.00

00:17:31.000 Go ahead and rape her. 1.00

00:17:33.000 And, of course, I'm not saying do this, but according to Rush Limbaugh, blow off some steam! 1.00

00:17:37.000 Just knock her teeth out, uh, drag her around, pour some acid on her, break the living daylights out of her. 1.00

00:17:44.000 Uh, this is freedom, folks. 0.99

00:17:45.000 This is, this is, this... I told you this is all gonna happen.

00:17:49.000 Okay?

00:17:50.000 They don't have torture on every TV show for nothing.

00:17:53.000 You understand?

00:17:53.000 People strapped down in black torture chairs with lesions all over their bodies, being tortured to death on television.

00:18:00.000 This is mass warping of the mind by design, and you better listen to me, and you better listen good.

00:18:08.000 It's been going on within prisons, within 50 miles of me, I know of three prisons that have lost their private contracts because of massive raping and torture.

00:18:19.000 And finally, good guards blow the whistle, and that's just the places where we've got good guards.

00:18:24.000 I'm not saying you're all bad.

00:18:25.000 I mean, I've got family.

00:18:26.000 We're jail guards in East Texas.

00:18:28.000 It's the only jobs you can have.

00:18:30.000 And the hellish stuff that goes on.

00:18:31.000 You've got some prisons that are good, some that are bad.

00:18:34.000 But I'm going to tell you, more bad than good.

00:18:37.000 And that goes in a scale of degrees. 0.99

00:18:40.000 I'd say maybe 10% are massively raping women, torturing them, doing all this. 0.96

00:18:46.000 55% plus are beating people up and restraining people until they die and dealing drugs and stuff. 0.95

00:18:51.000 And then about 45% are well-run.

00:18:55.000 And frankly, the government-run ones are better.

00:18:57.000 These private ones... I mean, would you want to be a jail guard?

00:19:00.000 Would you want to be a jail guard?

00:19:02.000 I mean, maybe if you're an old retired military guy who's sick of driving your route, like my great-uncle, and, you know, every other business is shut down, well, you'll just go and, you know, do that.

00:19:15.000 Work at a jail.

00:19:16.000 I mean, there's lots of people like that. 0.99

00:19:18.000 I'm not saying they're all bad, but there's lots of them that are sickos. 0.96

00:19:22.000 Folks, I've been in jail twice, okay, for protesting. 0.90

00:19:28.000 And every time, I didn't say a word and had my head slammed into the wall.

00:19:33.000 Okay?

00:19:34.000 I mean, that's just how it goes.

00:19:37.000 And this is going on in America.

00:19:40.000 They shut down a Wackenhut prison 20 miles outside Austin because they were raping and videotaping the women.

00:19:48.000 And they hired these guys to take them over.

00:19:50.000 Oh, they're just blowing off some steam.

00:19:52.000 They're not getting shot at.

00:19:54.000 And even if you are, our troops didn't act like this in the past.

00:19:57.000 George Washington didn't rape women. 1.00

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00:24:10.000 even the British history books that I've read personally being somewhat of a history buff

00:24:17.000 admit that our soldiers in 1776 to 1788

00:24:23.000 during that lengthy war.

00:24:26.000 were known for not torturing, not abusing POWs.

00:24:30.000 Even when our troops were starving to death, had no shoes on, because they'd fallen apart from marching up and down the East Coast, they would still give some of their food to the British captives.

00:24:42.000 The British, on the other hand, with torture, rape, burn, they were an imperial power, and it blew up in their face, and instead of 5% being against them, by the end it was 20%, and that turned the tide.

00:24:55.000 But not anymore, folks.

00:24:57.000 I mean, this even shocks me.

00:25:00.000 And I guess that's good, because I can still be shocked.

00:25:02.000 I mean, I'm desensitized by urban warfare training, and black helicopter raid drills, and cancer viruses in the vaccines.

00:25:08.000 I have a 20-page report, declassified U.S.

00:25:11.000 government documents of giving schoolchildren uranium in their food.

00:25:15.000 Covertly in the public schools to see what it would do to them.

00:25:18.000 Yes, we have that today.

00:25:19.000 That still shocks me a little.

00:25:21.000 But we're all being desensitized.

00:25:23.000 I mean, five years ago it was a big deal when we found out about the plan to put microchips in us.

00:25:27.000 Now it's in the daily news.

00:25:28.000 Oh, it's a good thing and no big deal.

00:25:30.000 And 80% of the time I don't even report on it when I have ten articles in front of me today.

00:25:35.000 But this does shock me.

00:25:36.000 I mean, universally, like they're reading off some script.

00:25:39.000 Oh, it's just fraternity fun, you know.

00:25:42.000 What happened to these photos?

00:25:43.000 It's no big deal.

00:25:44.000 They're just blowing off some steam.

00:25:45.000 You know, why are we doing this to these people?

00:25:49.000 You know, this is horrible!

00:25:50.000 This is no big deal!

00:25:51.000 In fact, play that Limbaugh clip one more time for people.

00:25:56.000 This is the sickest thing I've ever heard.

00:25:59.000 What's psychologically wrong with that? 0.84

00:26:01.000 It's not the act so much, it was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked... Exactly!

00:26:09.000 Exactly my point!

00:26:11.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives with it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hamper them because they had a good time.

00:26:25.000 These people are being fired at every day.

00:26:27.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

00:26:29.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

00:26:32.000 You ever heard of need to blow some steam off?

00:26:35.000 Hey, blow some steam off!

00:26:37.000 Sodomizing men with giant objects? 0.90

00:26:39.000 I'm sorry, it's MSNBC. 1.00

00:26:41.000 Uh, raping women? 1.00

00:26:43.000 Raping them! 1.00

00:26:44.000 Raping! 0.98

00:26:44.000 This is the Army's report! 0.98

00:26:47.000 But the neocons are, oh that's all fake, fake, fake!

00:26:49.000 Here's the CIA, put out some fake photos of it. 0.99

00:26:51.000 To do that, it's admitted they're raping them.

00:26:54.000 That's the Army's own report. 0.77

00:26:55.000 They've confessed to it.

00:26:58.000 So this is bone chilling.

00:27:02.000 You know I have friends, with no criminal record, who have been arrested at protest and have been beaten up and choked in the jail for hours on end.

00:27:13.000 Shackled with their hands, you know, to a water pipe in the ceiling, hanging. 0.89

00:27:20.000 This is going to happen to all of you out there.

00:27:22.000 It's going to happen to your daughters and sons.

00:27:24.000 Just blowing off some steam.

00:27:25.000 So next time somebody brutally rapes a woman in your area, their defense can be, hey, I just was blowing off some steam, man.

00:27:32.000 Just having some fun.

00:27:35.000 You know, Joseph Mingala.

00:27:36.000 I'm just having some fun.

00:27:38.000 You know, the Reich's being shot at here.

00:27:42.000 Charles in Louisiana.

00:27:43.000 Charles, go ahead, sir.

00:27:45.000 You're on the air.

00:27:45.000 Yes, sir.

00:27:46.000 I want to remind the people out there, one of the guys that was doing that was a prison guard.

00:27:51.000 He worked for the Department of Corrections.

00:27:53.000 Well, they had private contractors who were all former prison guards under CIA command.

00:27:58.000 I get so tired of hearing people say how good the prisoners are.

00:28:01.000 They must be going to the politician prisons, the white collar prisons. 0.98

00:28:05.000 We got women out here living in parishes that have been raped. 0.70

00:28:08.000 Well, he's not going to get in trouble.

00:28:09.000 If your teenage son's caught with two Oxycontins, it's considered a narcotic.

00:28:14.000 guys appear to be done distorted those how many people in the dream world

00:28:18.000 think like one ball and he he's been going to be caught him when he's in a fiend

00:28:23.000 account not only to let you know he's not going to get in trouble

00:28:26.000 if you're teenage sons caught with two oxycontins

00:28:29.000 is considered a narcotic you're talking three or four years in prison and and

00:28:33.000 ten years of probation But this guy can take a hundred pills a day.

00:28:37.000 Something that would literally kill an elephant. 0.95

00:28:39.000 This drug addict of hillbilly heroin, folks. 0.95

00:28:43.000 This guy says, put your son, your daughter in jail. 1.00

00:28:46.000 He's a fat, disgusting, liberal hypocrite! 1.00

00:28:50.000 Yeah, well, I'm going to tell you something. 1.00

00:28:51.000 Do you know most of the guards smoke weed or take pills in prison?

00:28:55.000 I know them.

00:28:55.000 I've been there with them a long time.

00:28:57.000 They take pills and speed and all that.

00:28:59.000 And they do all this stuff.

00:29:01.000 But I don't know if people say they've got big screen TVs.

00:29:04.000 I've never seen a big screen TV.

00:29:05.000 Well, in 16 states, in the medium security prisons, after you've worked at 20 cents an hour, they will let you buy your own TV.

00:29:15.000 Yeah, it's 5 cents an hour when we get down here.

00:29:18.000 Well, obviously states like Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas are very rough, the roughest in the country.

00:29:23.000 But the point is, that I'm trying to make here, is that they use this class warfare like torture's good on us.

00:29:29.000 They were saying that in the prisons!

00:29:31.000 Well, it's coming to us, Mr. Jones.

00:29:33.000 You know, Charles, you've called before.

00:29:35.000 You were convicted of a crime you didn't commit.

00:29:37.000 You were tortured for that confession, weren't you?

00:29:39.000 Yes, I took somebody to the hospital.

00:29:40.000 I want people to hear how they put a bag over your head when we get back.

00:29:44.000 I want them to hear what the real criminals did to you.

00:29:46.000 Stay there! 0.92

00:29:47.000 Stay there! 0.92

00:29:48.000 Just blow it off some steam!

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:11.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:33:15.000 I went down, down, down.

00:33:17.000 And the flames went higher.

00:33:19.000 And it burns, burns, burns.

00:33:22.000 The truth hurts, but not facing it is even more painful.

00:33:26.000 Because the evil just grows and grows.

00:33:28.000 We're going to Debbie Morrow here in a second.

00:33:30.000 I'm going to let Charles finish up and we'll go to Bill, Eric, Jay, and Ed and others.

00:33:35.000 Wide open phones on this Live Friday edition.

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00:33:39.000 Look, this torture story is old for our listeners, okay?

00:33:42.000 We've been breaking these stories here, covering them for years and years and years, long before 9-11.

00:33:48.000 Here in our own country. 0.92

00:33:50.000 The admissions, I mean, well then a stone's throw, all around me are prisons, admittedly torturing people, raping women, even in some cases, as Charles just said, taking the slaves, the sex slaves, home. 0.89

00:34:01.000 So somehow, government can commit all the crimes at once, all day long, and that's good, that's okay.

00:34:07.000 CPS does it, you name it, it's all across the board.

00:34:12.000 But to hear national talk show hosts run the gamut from good, torture them, it's wonderful, kill them all, torture their children, to Limbaugh or others who say, oh, they're just having a good time, you know, that's on one end of the spectrum, oh, you know, this is like a fraternity prank, this is just having some fun. 0.99

00:34:29.000 I mean, folks, I have the Army's own report, the confessions, the admissions, raping women! 1.00

00:34:35.000 Battery acid on people!

00:34:38.000 Uh, stuff I don't even want to continue to mention here that's even worse.

00:34:41.000 Admit it!

00:34:42.000 Admit it, admit it, admit it.

00:34:43.000 Charles, you were tortured into confession of a crime you didn't commit, and now the new numbers are coming out.

00:34:49.000 Upwards of half the people in prisons are innocent.

00:34:53.000 I mean, take Dallas, Texas, throwing bags of chalk in the back of the car.

00:34:56.000 Random vehicles.

00:34:57.000 They would certify this cocaine at the crime lab.

00:35:01.000 The district attorney would indict.

00:35:04.000 You know, Tulea, Texas.

00:35:05.000 Houston, Texas.

00:35:06.000 The police even admits they framed thousands.

00:35:08.000 I mean, I'm just using where I live, folks.

00:35:11.000 Mr. Jones, I want to tell you one thing.

00:35:12.000 Hold on.

00:35:13.000 Tell people the story of what happened to you.

00:35:15.000 Well, they arrested me out of a bar room.

00:35:18.000 Said I come in there breathing hard.

00:35:20.000 Somebody was shot.

00:35:22.000 Two and a half blocks away.

00:35:23.000 And they said, we heard you ran into this boy and you was breathing hard.

00:35:26.000 We want to question you.

00:35:27.000 I said, about what?

00:35:28.000 They said they had a robbery down there.

00:35:29.000 A woman got some jewelry stolen.

00:35:31.000 I said, okay.

00:35:31.000 So they took her outside.

00:35:32.000 They asked me, I said, do you want a gun?

00:35:34.000 I said, well, I got a gun at home.

00:35:36.000 They said, what kind you got?

00:35:37.000 I said, a .357 Magnum.

00:35:38.000 They said, well, it could have been a .38 Magnum.

00:35:40.000 We want to talk to you downtown.

00:35:41.000 They got me there about a half hour.

00:35:43.000 He said, look, you know about this.

00:35:45.000 I said, I don't even know.

00:35:47.000 You know, this woman, I don't have no... 1.00

00:35:50.000 I didn't do this.

00:35:51.000 And he said, well, we're going to charge.

00:35:52.000 We don't have anybody else.

00:35:53.000 You just go ahead and sign this, and we're going to make it easy on you.

00:35:55.000 And I said, oh, I got kind of smart, you know.

00:35:57.000 I mean, I said, I ain't signing nothing.

00:35:59.000 He said, well, OK.

00:36:00.000 So they hit me a couple of times.

00:36:01.000 So then he said, get the bag.

00:36:03.000 He said, I ain't got a lot of time.

00:36:04.000 And they put a bag over my head.

00:36:06.000 They put a pinhole in the bag, and they put a shirt around the pinhole.

00:36:09.000 By the way, a lot of you are going to get to enjoy this.

00:36:11.000 I want to warn you, I have personal friends this has happened to with the APD.

00:36:15.000 So you start gasping for air, and the bag goes down your throat.

00:36:20.000 Like a pencil hole.

00:36:22.000 And you start... I mean, you're on the floor, they got you on the floor.

00:36:25.000 You start asphyxiating.

00:36:27.000 Yeah, and then they pull it off, and then they watch your face.

00:36:29.000 It's a clear bag.

00:36:30.000 They know when to take it off.

00:36:32.000 I think they left it a little too long on me.

00:36:34.000 But anyway, because they had to get a doctor for me a couple days later.

00:36:37.000 And they did it to me three times.

00:36:40.000 And then I started, when I got up, I started signing different confessions for burglaries.

00:36:44.000 And I don't know all what I signed, but they said they had several confessions.

00:36:49.000 Confessions, but I don't even remember signing them, Mr. Jones.

00:36:52.000 I don't, I swear to God, I don't remember signing nothing.

00:36:55.000 Oh, listen, I know.

00:36:56.000 I mean, they do this right here in Austin.

00:36:59.000 On the news, they show the cop putting the gun to the head, saying, I'm gonna blow your head off, and the guy confesses, and then later they find out it isn't even his DNA.

00:37:07.000 Yes.

00:37:08.000 And they, look, they put it on the news, the cop putting the gun to his head, and then they say on the news, well, this is no big deal.

00:37:15.000 Mr. Jones, everybody could be, they could bring you in 10 minutes later, you could sign a statement.

00:37:19.000 This could happen to anybody.

00:37:21.000 Well, the Russians take a gas mask with the nose holes clogged, with the breathing system clogged, and that's how they, it's one of their favorite ways. 1.00

00:37:30.000 Now, the Mexicans will take a Sprite and put a half bottle of Tabasco in it. 1.00

00:37:35.000 They actually use the Avery Island Tabasco, one of my favorite delicacies, and they will shoot it up your nose, and that'll really get the answers out of you.

00:37:43.000 They also have a thing where they put hot water down your throat with a funnel.

00:37:48.000 Well, they use the woman's... I did that already. 1.00

00:37:51.000 When somebody put the nozzle on him for a whiskey down, they had to say they were drunk.

00:37:58.000 I seen a guy, a little something called, he said, we're going to show you you're not a man.

00:38:01.000 And I was in the next cell, and I seen three guards. 0.99

00:38:04.000 I swear, I raped him to show him he wasn't a man, to prove to him he was not a man. 0.99

00:38:10.000 Because he got smoked with them. 1.00

00:38:11.000 I've seen this.

00:38:12.000 What did they do to him? 1.00

00:38:14.000 They raped him. 1.00

00:38:15.000 They raped him. 1.00

00:38:16.000 He said, you think you're macho? 1.00

00:38:17.000 We're going to show you you're not.

00:38:19.000 Put him to the board and shackle him. 0.99

00:38:21.000 And I've seen, help me God, I've seen three officers rape him. 0.99

00:38:27.000 Well, let's play. 0.98

00:38:28.000 Hold on a second.

00:38:29.000 Let's play Rush Limbaugh again.

00:38:30.000 They're just having fun blowing off some steam.

00:38:32.000 Play it.

00:38:33.000 Yes.

00:38:34.000 Psychologically wrong with that.

00:38:36.000 It's not the act so much.

00:38:37.000 It was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked... Exactly!

00:38:43.000 Exactly my point!

00:38:46.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives with it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hammer them because they had a good time.

00:38:58.000 You know, these people are being fired at every day.

00:39:02.000 I'm talking about the people having a good time.

00:39:03.000 These people, you ever heard of emotional release?

00:39:07.000 You ever heard of needing to blow some steam off? 0.99

00:39:11.000 Uh, I have the Army report here, raping women. 0.99

00:39:15.000 Is raping women and men, is that blowing off steam, Charles? 0.99

00:39:19.000 Or is that a crime? 0.98

00:39:20.000 No, but they had one woman, she made love to all officers, but she didn't want to make love to colored officers. 1.00

00:39:25.000 And they slammed her breast in the draw because she was prejudiced, they said.

00:39:28.000 I was there seeing this, so help me God, God be my judge.

00:39:32.000 But this could happen to every listener out there.

00:39:34.000 They think all they need to do is be stomped.

00:39:37.000 Their daughters are going to be in feeder camps. 0.82

00:39:40.000 These same guards are going to be over them.

00:39:42.000 And that's why I got into this fight, to try to make sure this would never happen.

00:39:47.000 Another human being.

00:39:48.000 I still have nightmares.

00:39:49.000 I appreciate the Christmas cards from you and your lovely wife.

00:39:52.000 Charles, I'm sorry this happened to you.

00:39:55.000 I don't want this to happen to nobody else.

00:39:57.000 But this has been breeding quietly under the surface.

00:39:59.000 Now they want to make us accept it.

00:40:01.000 You understand?

00:40:02.000 Yes, sir.

00:40:02.000 It won't happen to a lot of people out there.

00:40:04.000 Probably listeners, and I pray it doesn't.

00:40:07.000 Thank you for what you're doing.

00:40:08.000 But I get emotional because I still suffer from this.

00:40:12.000 I still I still suffer.

00:40:14.000 I still have nightmares.

00:40:15.000 What they did to me.

00:40:16.000 They broke my toes four times.

00:40:18.000 That's my backup.

00:40:19.000 That's my backup.

00:40:19.000 Yes, stomping on the feet is in here.

00:40:21.000 That's one of their faves.

00:40:22.000 Yes.

00:40:23.000 Thank you.

00:40:24.000 Take care, my friend.

00:40:25.000 I'm sorry to have to... By the way, if you'd like to call in, if you can get in when somebody hangs up.

00:40:28.000 If you've been tortured, we'd like to hear from you.

00:40:31.000 We need Operation American Freedom here in America.

00:40:33.000 Forget Operation Iraqi Freedom.

00:40:36.000 Now let's go to Debbie Morrow, then we'll go to the rest of our calls.

00:40:38.000 Debbie, I appreciate you holding through that.

00:40:40.000 What did you think of that, Debbie?

00:40:42.000 Oh my God, Alex, I just can't even... I feel like, oh my God, I am so thankful that I have never been through what that man's been through.

00:40:52.000 You know, I have a sister-in-law who was kidnapped by deprogrammers back in the 70s.

00:40:58.000 And she had to escape from them.

00:41:03.000 Her stories are horrific, what they did to her.

00:41:08.000 The so-called deprogrammers many times are the actual cults.

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00:45:28.000 I mean, I'm disgusted.

00:45:32.000 I'm freaked out.

00:45:33.000 My wife wants to leave the country, folks. 1.00

00:45:35.000 About all this torture.

00:45:37.000 I mean, we've got a giant torture archive with Alan Dershowitz and liberals, conservatives, how torture's good.

00:45:44.000 Hundreds of articles, how good it is.

00:45:45.000 And now it's just out in the open. 0.88

00:45:47.000 And these sickos that call themselves conservatives are giving us all a bad name, out there saying this is no big deal, just having some fun. 0.86

00:45:56.000 Let's go to the calls quickly here. 0.98

00:45:58.000 Bill in Missouri.

00:45:59.000 Bill, go ahead.

00:46:00.000 How you doing there, Alex?

00:46:01.000 Good.

00:46:02.000 Listen, I'm a first-time caller.

00:46:04.000 This is the first time.

00:46:04.000 I'm a little bit nervous here, but I'd like to make a couple of points, if I may.

00:46:08.000 Sure.

00:46:10.000 Here, I'm calling from St.

00:46:11.000 Louis, which is supposedly a conservative state, a conservative city.

00:46:19.000 Every week on Thursday nights, they have a little local program called Donnybrook, okay?

00:46:26.000 And they get on there and they discuss local issues and things.

00:46:29.000 Well, last night, they were discussing this torture story.

00:46:35.000 They were talking about Rumsfeld.

00:46:37.000 Should Rumsfeld be held accountable for all this?

00:46:40.000 And it's amazing.

00:46:42.000 It was sickening, actually, to hear these people start singing the praises of Donald Rumsfeld.

00:46:49.000 You know?

00:46:50.000 And it was sickening to listen to.

00:46:53.000 They're singing the praises this man has served his country in several administrations.

00:46:57.000 He has bragged that torture's good on TV!

00:47:00.000 They gave the orders!

00:47:02.000 Army Intelligence hired these prison guard goons to do this!

00:47:06.000 Oh yeah, but according to what they were discussing last night, this is only the fault of a handful of soldiers.

00:47:13.000 Well, look, I want to comparatively commend that show. 0.96

00:47:16.000 I mean, look, in big national broadcasts, it runs the gamut from, this is good, kill them all, to, oh, they're just having fun, leave them alone. 0.94

00:47:25.000 It runs that gamut.

00:47:26.000 I've probably heard, I don't know, eight different shows saying how wonderful it is now in the last week.

00:47:31.000 I mean, it is physically sickening to somebody that's got a conscience and a soul.

00:47:36.000 And these demons, these larcenous devils behind microphones make me want to Oh yeah, definitely.

00:47:43.000 By the way, FEMA's trying to do this to conservatives. 0.98

00:47:46.000 Everybody know that.

00:47:47.000 This is for us, real conservatives.

00:47:50.000 Well, later on in the evening, I forget whether it was on 2, 4, or 5, or which channel it was on, but it was on Major Network.

00:47:59.000 On the news, they interviewed the mother of the little girl that was in the photos.

00:48:05.000 You know, with the big smile on her face. 0.95

00:48:06.000 Yeah, the midget. 0.99

00:48:07.000 Yeah, and they're making excuses for her, saying it's no big deal. 0.84

00:48:11.000 Oh, well, you know, her mother says, no, that's not my girl.

00:48:14.000 That's not the way she was raised.

00:48:16.000 She said she talked to her daughter on the telephone, and her daughter said that she was simply following orders.

00:48:24.000 Oh, she's enjoying it.

00:48:25.000 You know?

00:48:26.000 She loves it.

00:48:27.000 She needs to work for Dr. Mingala. 0.97

00:48:31.000 And all these sickos on talk radio and in the newspapers that have said torture's good, I hope you're proud of yourselves. 1.00

00:48:37.000 You're trying to suck us into hell with you. 1.00

00:48:39.000 Thanks for the call. 0.99

00:48:40.000 Let's talk to Eric in Connecticut, up in Skull and Bones country.

00:48:43.000 Go ahead, Eric.

00:48:44.000 Skull and Bones indeed, Alex.

00:48:46.000 I signed up for PrisonPlanet.tv yesterday.

00:48:49.000 Nice work.

00:48:49.000 It's a good site.

00:48:50.000 Well, thank you.

00:48:51.000 We need your support.

00:48:52.000 You're welcome.

00:48:54.000 This clip of Limbaugh is absolutely astonishing.

00:48:58.000 Let me tell you, he's on the lower end of the bad stuff.

00:49:00.000 He's actually one of the lightest.

00:49:03.000 I'm hearing them say it's good.

00:49:05.000 I'm hearing other hosts say it is wonderful.

00:49:09.000 It's interesting, he talks about Skull and Bones, he's basically confirming... Well, they admit that that's what they do at Skull and Bones, is have the sex parties, get in the coffins, do all this, and then now something he said didn't exist, oh, which is like Skull and Bones, it's just fun fraternity stuff.

00:49:23.000 Yeah, well the American Eugenics Society left its old headquarters at Yale University, which was the home of the sinister Skull and Bones Society.

00:49:29.000 Oh, almost everything evil comes out of there.

00:49:32.000 Yup, and you know, it's interesting Alex, there's a reason all this stuff's on TV, and I want to talk to these neocons out there.

00:49:39.000 Hey neocons, how are you going to react when this same activity happens to somebody that you care about, like your mother, or your brother, or your daughter, or your sister?

00:49:49.000 How are you going to react?

00:49:50.000 Are you going to simply say, oh it's just harmless fun and they're just blowing off steam? 0.99

00:49:56.000 There's a lot of white trash Uh, out there that loves this. 1.00

00:50:00.000 A lot of sick yuppies. 1.00

00:50:02.000 And the reason a lot of this stuff's on TV, Alex, is because TV is one of the most effective mass mind conditioning tools ever devised. 0.96

00:50:09.000 Hey! 0.99

00:50:10.000 Look, every cop show, it's torture every night! 0.99

00:50:12.000 I mean, I saw a cop show where they were raping a guy! 1.00

00:50:15.000 And these psychopaths are gonna carry this out on us! 1.00

00:50:18.000 You bet they are. 0.98

00:50:19.000 It's frightening stuff.

00:50:20.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:50:21.000 Thank you.

00:50:21.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:50:23.000 I was sitting there in a restaurant, and they had this show on, Cops show on the big screen TV, and I'm sitting there eating Chinese food, and almost, really, I moved chairs so I wouldn't see it anymore, and it was just the police raping somebody.

00:50:36.000 I have the audio on too, and that'll show ya!

00:50:38.000 And of course, it's always a bad person, so they deserve it!

00:50:42.000 See, that's the weird mind-warping.

00:50:43.000 Oh, this'll teach you, I don't like doing this, but I'm gonna do it!

00:50:46.000 Here, take it, take it!

00:50:47.000 I mean, come on, people!

00:50:49.000 This is right out of the pit of hell!

00:50:51.000 I mean, this blows me away!

00:50:53.000 This isn't... The Nazis didn't brag about it!

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00:54:08.000 because there's a war on for your mind you know i'm actually speechless

00:54:24.000 that people can get on talk radio and say that torture is good and that good guys torture 0.95

00:54:29.000 while meanwhile going saddam has rape rooms and torture rooms

00:54:33.000 And they should add, we've taken them over! 0.62

00:54:36.000 And are doing the same thing! 0.99

00:54:37.000 You know, but, oh, it's bad because he rapes and tortures, and now we're raping and torturing, and oh, it's good! 0.98

00:54:43.000 It's just having some fun! 0.79

00:54:45.000 And here's that clip again from PBS of the guys that stole three pieces of firewood, they think, and these guys machine gun their car and run over it with a tank.

00:54:55.000 And they're, most of these guys doing this are going to be cops in a few years, pulling you over, so let's go ahead and play it.

00:55:02.000 There was still some looting going on when we arrived.

00:55:08.000 And when we came across soldiers, they didn't seem sure of their role.

00:55:14.000 That child don't need to be in here. 0.96

00:55:16.000 You know where the school is?

00:55:17.000 That's where he needs to be doing, not following you.

00:55:21.000 We filmed these G.I.s after they caught a group of Iraqis stealing wood. 0.96

00:55:25.000 We try to stop them from looting, they don't understand, so we take their car and we crush it.

00:55:31.000 United States Army, tankers hold.

00:55:33.000 They shoot up the vehicle.

00:55:38.000 Then they laugh about it. That's the tanker.

00:55:44.000 And like Little Boss says, we're just blowing off some steam.

00:55:46.000 We're definitely having fun.

00:55:47.000 This is about fun.

00:55:47.000 Having their minds warmed.

00:55:48.000 They have a fun, slip-off fun, having their minds warped.

00:55:53.000 You can pop it full of new water.

00:55:56.000 Here comes the latch.

00:55:58.000 That's what you get when you loop.

00:56:14.000 Later, the car's owner told us, I'm a taxi driver.

00:56:19.000 The car was my livelihood.

00:56:21.000 You reap what you sow.

00:56:23.000 It's gonna happen to your daughter, your son, God forbid.

00:56:26.000 We're an evil country, folks.

00:56:28.000 Fifty million abortions. 0.99

00:56:30.000 And the government's out teaching the police that homeschoolers, constitutionalists, Christians are bad.

00:56:34.000 That we need to be arrested.

00:56:36.000 I have it on video.

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00:56:42.000 This is all for you, and they're going to con you with the neocons.

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00:56:51.000 They're going to censor this show, not that show.

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01:00:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 Why do we have the Second Amendment? 1.00

01:00:19.000 The Founding Fathers actually said in many of their speeches and editorials and newspapers so that we won't be tortured to death and raped by thugs in government.

01:00:30.000 And now, across the board, neocons, socialists, anti-American, there to pacify real conservatives are all over talk radio saying the torture's just having a good time, it's no big deal.

01:00:45.000 That shows on the low end, you know, who aren't that radical. 1.00

01:00:48.000 The other ones are saying it's good, kill all of them, kill the children, murder everyone. 1.00

01:00:53.000 This is going on. 1.00

01:00:54.000 This is a bigger story than the torture.

01:00:56.000 The sickening, demonic, unbelievable, shocking nature and the callers calling in who love torture and love evil.

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01:01:13.000 Folks, if you... We've got a bunch of other news on this too and a bunch of other issues, but I'm just so blown away by this.

01:01:20.000 I'm almost speechless.

01:01:21.000 We're about to go to your calls, but play Rush Limbaugh two days ago again, saying, hey, this is like fraternity fun at Skull and Bones.

01:01:26.000 They're just having a good time.

01:01:28.000 What's the big deal?

01:01:29.000 It's no big deal. 1.00

01:01:30.000 Yeah, raping women, sodomizing people with giant objects, battery acid. 1.00

01:01:35.000 It's no big deal. 1.00

01:01:35.000 Go ahead and play the clip. 1.00

01:01:37.000 Psychologically wrong with that.

01:01:39.000 It's not the act so much.

01:01:40.000 It was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked Exactly!

01:01:47.000 Exactly my point!

01:01:49.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hammer them because they had a good time.

01:02:01.000 You know, these people are being fired at every day.

01:02:05.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

01:02:06.000 These people, you ever heard of emotional release?

01:02:10.000 You ever heard of me to blow some steam off?

01:02:13.000 And I have the Army's own report, admitted, U.S.

01:02:16.000 Army, Article 15-6, Major General Antonio Tagumba, Military Police Brigade Commander, Investigation, and they admit raping of women and things I don't want to continue to mention here.

01:02:28.000 Just blowing off some steam, having a good time.

01:02:30.000 Jay in Colorado, welcome to the broadcast.

01:02:33.000 Hey Alex.

01:02:35.000 Yeah, this whole stuff here is good for the people that are asleep to see it, but for us, I don't know about it, it is just speeches that it's all out there in the open.

01:02:45.000 The show that, I watched the show last night, I think it was on Frontline, about a guy that was in Al Qaeda as a kid, who was like in Al Qaeda, his dad was friends with Osama, he hung out with Osama's kids.

01:02:59.000 Well, he was friends with Osama, that means he'd be friends with George Bush. 0.74

01:03:02.000 Did he vacation with the Bushes?

01:03:04.000 They probably were on a boat somewhere together, yeah sure.

01:03:06.000 But anyway, he got taken to Guantanamo.

01:03:10.000 Under his own volition, because he was going to work for the CIA, because he had his family in Canada and whatnot.

01:03:16.000 Anyway, so he said, OK, I'll go to Camp X-Ray and get you information and work with you.

01:03:23.000 So they said, all right, well, you've got to go through the same process, you know, in-processing as everybody else, so they don't know.

01:03:29.000 So they stuck him on a plane with all these other guys, a cargo plane, with co-ropes or tie-down straps going criss-cross across the middle of the thing.

01:03:39.000 With them all sitting upright with the straps weaved in between all these guys with their arms held out straight for the whole plane ride from Afghanistan to Cuba for 15 hours with hoods on their heads and after that and a bunch of other things where they had to just kept kneeling for 24 hours on concrete floors with their hands tied to their ankles and in behind them. Which is a brutal, a brutal type

01:04:04.000 of torture. You tried for five, five minutes you fat-bellied yuppies. Oh yeah, and this, 0.99

01:04:09.000 this guy was working for him and he said wait a minute. As soon as they, they got, got him alone to

01:04:13.000 talk to him he said wait what are you doing? I'm working for you and they said uh just be quiet

01:04:18.000 and don't worry about it you know that kind of thing and he, he started getting uh, uh a different

01:04:23.000 attitude about working for him. I mean They put them to work in 15-18 hour flights on a cargo plane.

01:04:30.000 They took some Indians from India who were working for Halliburton in Afghanistan.

01:04:34.000 And once they got there, they said, you're slaves.

01:04:37.000 They said, what do you mean?

01:04:38.000 Well, you're here.

01:04:38.000 And they tortured them.

01:04:40.000 And the guys that they wanted on those plane cards, they ground up their family and then they put out signs saying, we got your family. 0.99

01:04:46.000 You better come in and turn yourself in or we're going to kill them. 0.98

01:04:50.000 Hey, that's freedom. 0.99

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01:08:02.000 We're not just talking about the admitted brutal rape and torture of men and women, which is publicly admitted in the Army's own report from Confessions.

01:08:11.000 They did this, by the way, under orders.

01:08:13.000 Rumsfeld publicly said torture is good.

01:08:15.000 We're talking about the response of neocon radio that is there to neutralize conservatives, to energize the left wing by the left seeing the horror of so-called conservatism that then energizes the ranks of the phony left who then brings in the other side of the equation. 0.95

01:08:31.000 The incredible response of these people saying that he's running the gamut from the most extreme, saying torture and kill them all, kill their children, it's wonderful, to Rush Limbaugh on the other end of the spectrum who just says, oh, they're just having a good time, leave them alone. 0.88

01:08:47.000 Oh, it's no big deal, they're just blowing off some steam. 0.99

01:08:49.000 I mean, that's the light side of it.

01:08:52.000 The stuff I've been hearing, I mean, makes me physically ill.

01:08:55.000 It's freaking my wife out. 1.00

01:08:56.000 She's like saying, what country do we live in?

01:08:59.000 This is the mass warping of the mind.

01:09:01.000 This is the TV shows where people psychologically simulate torture every day.

01:09:06.000 Every show.

01:09:07.000 I know you've seen it.

01:09:10.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ed in Utah.

01:09:13.000 Ed, go ahead.

01:09:14.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:09:15.000 You're doing a yeoman's job here.

01:09:17.000 And I know you're making inroads when you're on people like Mike Romey back east there.

01:09:23.000 I can just imagine the impact.

01:09:25.000 I understand he's a 50,000 watt low torch type station?

01:09:29.000 I don't know.

01:09:29.000 I do interviews every day.

01:09:30.000 Well, there's people I know that listen to him in New Hampshire, so I know he's getting out there in several states.

01:09:36.000 But anyway, I just wanted to bring up a couple of things.

01:09:40.000 This camp, Audie Gubavitzer, however it's pronounced... Yeah, that's just one of 32.

01:09:45.000 Right, right.

01:09:47.000 And the main thing about that camp, there was a front-page picture last year, over a year ago, of course in Washington, D.C., American Free Press newspaper, of which you are a friend.

01:09:58.000 I want to bring up something in light of this.

01:10:00.000 Everything I've been hearing today, your caller, Charles, all the information, you've done pretty much the whole spectrum on revealing most of the dark side of all this, Alex.

01:10:10.000 But I want to go to Colonel Dondergaard-Pree.

01:10:13.000 And I was listening to a little bit of Donald Rumsfeld today, lying through his teeth and holding back information on this phony hearings that's going on right now.

01:10:21.000 Colonel Dondergaard-Pree talked about the Jewish Talmud. 0.87

01:10:26.000 And I'm seeing this sex torture.

01:10:27.000 People need to see the working relationship of darkness with the Mossad.

01:10:31.000 And you said it, Alex.

01:10:32.000 It is genuine Christians that are being called terrorists. 1.00

01:10:36.000 Who is a real enemy of Christians?

01:10:38.000 People need to look at that.

01:10:39.000 The fundamentalists of Islam, they have a similar biblical code of life, and they're appalled by this. 0.82

01:10:45.000 But so should be, and are, a few anyhow in this country, genuine Christians upset. 1.00

01:10:50.000 Who is the one that we never go on the chopping block?

01:10:53.000 It's those people that run the Mossad.

01:10:55.000 And when you look at Colonel Don DeGruy and he talks about Talmudism and how this is Talmudic and that's Talmudic in his book The Rattler's Revenge and Viper's Venom.

01:11:04.000 The last thing I'll leave you with on this Alex, he has called for military tribunals should there ever be a military coup in this country.

01:11:12.000 I would support that.

01:11:13.000 You cannot have, quote, fair trials for this situation.

01:11:16.000 It needs to come out, openly publicized, in the emergency broadcast system, and people like you should be appointed to the panel to ask the questions.

01:11:24.000 And I'll tell you, they'd have to hold people like me back, and they can legitimately restrain me if I can unleash and do what I want to do to punish these people in the Bush and Clinton administration that have let this go on, and their wire pullers behind them.

01:11:39.000 I do appreciate that.

01:11:39.000 All right, thank you for the call, but look, I have to say this.

01:11:42.000 Colonel Donna Granpree is talking about the danger of a military coup, how it could happen.

01:11:47.000 Everything needs to be done through the Constitution.

01:11:49.000 You need to have grand juries indict these people.

01:11:52.000 They need to be arrested and brought to justice.

01:11:55.000 And it's very dangerous to have any type of military coup, and I don't want that.

01:12:01.000 This is part of a mass warping, though.

01:12:03.000 Bring this out now.

01:12:04.000 They've known about this all along.

01:12:05.000 School of America's at Georgia has trained the world how to torture.

01:12:09.000 Saddam was trained by this country in everything he did.

01:12:12.000 The rape rooms, all of it.

01:12:13.000 And now in his same prison, they're doing the same thing.

01:12:16.000 Why is that?

01:12:17.000 Because it isn't Saddam teaching us how to do it, it's us teaching him how to do it. 0.97

01:12:21.000 When I say us, I mean the cockroaches that run America and use us as their muscle. 0.97

01:12:27.000 Okay? 0.98

01:12:27.000 I mean, it's that simple. 0.98

01:12:29.000 And yes, Israel does a lot of torture.

01:12:32.000 They have legal torture.

01:12:35.000 I didn't know about the sexual part of it.

01:12:37.000 But this is just... They have been advising.

01:12:41.000 And it's very, very serious.

01:12:44.000 Let's go ahead... And most of these people are totally innocent in these prisons.

01:12:49.000 You know, they say, oh, these are criminals.

01:12:50.000 Well, you don't become the criminal because you're with a criminal.

01:12:54.000 They do this to citizens in our own prisons.

01:12:56.000 It's a lot worse here than it is over there, okay?

01:13:00.000 It makes me very angry.

01:13:01.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Clint in Missouri.

01:13:03.000 Clint, go ahead.

01:13:04.000 Good morning, Alex.

01:13:05.000 Hello.

01:13:06.000 If I may, could I give a brief plug of my org and then make some brief comments?

01:13:11.000 A brief plug of what?

01:13:13.000 Of my organization.

01:13:14.000 Okay.

01:13:16.000 I'd like to again say that I think the session is the answer and ask listeners to go to MissouriCSA.com.

01:13:23.000 That's the O word, Missouri.

01:13:25.000 CSA.com.

01:13:28.000 I'd like to say that I agree with you and everyone else.

01:13:31.000 This whole torture thing has just thickened my stomach.

01:13:36.000 And let's just think back to the reason they said we went there.

01:13:39.000 First, it was weapons of mass destruction.

01:13:42.000 They weren't found.

01:13:43.000 Then they said it's humanitarian.

01:13:45.000 Okay, it's humanitarian. 0.71

01:13:47.000 Well, Saddam abused his people, he tortured them.

01:13:50.000 Well, now we're abusing his people and torturing them. 0.68

01:13:53.000 And the one thing I've noticed that's possibly the most disturbing of all is many so-called Christians are condoning this. 0.98

01:14:01.000 Well, they were bad people.

01:14:04.000 You know, that just tells me how brainwashed people really are and how involved the church really is with all this because There's true Christians out there, but they need to learn how to think for themselves, because just because Saddam did this, does not give us the right to do this, and we're supposed to be Americans and better than that. 0.63

01:14:22.000 Look, the Associated Press has a photo in the article from a year ago of arresting men selling beer, tangerines, and dates on a street corner.

01:14:31.000 Because they didn't have a special license.

01:14:33.000 You have to have a license.

01:14:34.000 They hired Shalibi, the admitted top captain under the shah, who ran the rape rooms and torture camps. 0.89

01:14:41.000 Again, set up by our government.

01:14:44.000 Saddam did this stuff, set up by our government. 0.78

01:14:46.000 Set up by our government. 1.00

01:14:47.000 This is art style, torturing people's children in front of them, sodomizing, raping women. 1.00

01:14:54.000 That's what they teach them how to do at our bases. 0.99

01:14:58.000 And the next step is draft.

01:15:01.000 They want to continue this.

01:15:03.000 I'm sure they're going to expand this probably into Iran.

01:15:06.000 And if we riot and protest, they'll send out the riot police with their black ski masks, or we can protest peacefully, they'll send out provocateurs.

01:15:14.000 And they're already doing it to us here.

01:15:16.000 Well yeah, and this time they want our women too. 1.00

01:15:20.000 Men and women ages 18 to 34.

01:15:24.000 And, you know, they're not getting me, they're not getting my wife, they're not getting my family.

01:15:28.000 I don't care.

01:15:29.000 That's just the way I roll.

01:15:32.000 I don't approve of this, I will not approve of this, and I will not participate in this.

01:15:36.000 And the key to stopping all of this is the restoration of state sovereignty.

01:15:40.000 I hear you.

01:15:40.000 Take care.

01:15:41.000 That's a big part of it.

01:15:42.000 And there's several major states preparing for secession, but you didn't hear about that.

01:15:46.000 Nevada's one of them.

01:15:47.000 I'll tell you what, play Limbaugh again.

01:15:49.000 You know, this is just fraternity fun, like Skull and Bones.

01:15:52.000 You know, the mock drug sling they do at Skull and Bones.

01:15:54.000 This is just fun.

01:15:55.000 This is no big deal.

01:15:57.000 They're just blowing off some steam.

01:16:01.000 What's psychologically wrong with that?

01:16:03.000 It's not the act so much, it was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked men... Exactly! 0.71

01:16:10.000 Exactly my point!

01:16:12.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hammer them because they had a good time.

01:16:26.000 These people are being fired at every day.

01:16:29.000 I'm talking about the people having a good time.

01:16:30.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

01:16:34.000 You ever heard of needing to blow some steam off?

01:16:38.000 So, reading from the official Army Report, Major General Report, Military Police Brigade 800, from MSNBC.

01:16:46.000 We have a link to the government's own website with this as well.

01:16:49.000 Part 1, Detaining Abuse Findings Recommendations.

01:16:52.000 Let me turn page 16.

01:16:57.000 And we can go over this.

01:16:59.000 You know what?

01:17:00.000 Let's just do that now.

01:17:03.000 Video taping and photographing naked male and female detainees.

01:17:05.000 Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions and photographing them.

01:17:10.000 Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.

01:17:14.000 Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear. 0.91

01:17:17.000 Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped. 0.99

01:17:22.000 Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them. 0.95

01:17:26.000 Positioning a naked detainee on an MRE box with a sandbag on his head and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and engine of telea to simulate electrical torture.

01:17:35.000 Placing a dog chain or strap around the neck of the detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.

01:17:41.000 Now this is the rape one. 0.96

01:17:42.000 K.S. 0.99

01:17:44.000 A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee. 1.00

01:17:47.000 Well that's rape! 1.00

01:17:48.000 Raping them! 0.99

01:17:50.000 A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee using military working dogs without muzzles to intimidate and frighten detainees, and at least in one case, biting and severely injuring a detainee. 0.98

01:18:00.000 This is where they have photos of this.

01:18:01.000 Taking photos of dead Iraqi detainees.

01:18:03.000 Yeah, people you've beaten to death and they now admit they kill them and then take them out on ice with an IV in their arm like they're dead.

01:18:09.000 I mean, like they're still alive.

01:18:11.000 And then they continue.

01:18:13.000 Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric acid on detainees.

01:18:18.000 Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.

01:18:20.000 Pouring cold water on naked detainees. 0.91

01:18:22.000 Beating detainees with a broom handle in a chair. 0.99

01:18:25.000 Threatening male detainees with rape. 0.98

01:18:26.000 Allowing more police dog. 0.98

01:18:29.000 Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broomstick.

01:18:34.000 I can't read any more of this.

01:18:37.000 Play Limbaugh again.

01:18:38.000 Just having a good time.

01:18:39.000 Play it again. 0.99

01:18:40.000 Raping women. 1.00

01:18:40.000 Having a good time. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Play it again.

01:18:43.000 There's nothing psychologically wrong with that.

01:18:45.000 It's not the act so much.

01:18:46.000 It was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked men and... Exactly!

01:18:53.000 Exactly my point!

01:18:55.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hammer them because they had a good time.

01:19:09.000 These people are being fired at every day.

01:19:11.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

01:19:13.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

01:19:16.000 You ever heard of need to blow some steam off?

01:19:19.000 Yeah, this is what they do at Skull & Bones.

01:19:21.000 Wow, Limbaugh.

01:19:23.000 I thought Skull & Bones didn't exist a couple years ago.

01:19:25.000 A few months ago, we're all cr... Oh, but now it exists.

01:19:29.000 Does the New World Order exist?

01:19:31.000 When presidents are giving speeches on national TV about it?

01:19:33.000 I mean...

01:19:35.000 But he's on the light end of things.

01:19:38.000 There's some.

01:19:39.000 And this is all wonderful.

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01:24:22.000 I guess up next is Deborah.

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01:24:29.000 Hi, how are you?

01:24:30.000 Fine.

01:24:30.000 I gotta tell you, these people out here listening, you know, they think that the police forces and whatnot around are there to protect you.

01:24:39.000 Think again.

01:24:40.000 The majority of them are there to make a name for themselves and they're sadistic.

01:24:45.000 There's not a lot of difference between the criminals out on the street and your police force today.

01:24:49.000 Well, that's admitted in graduate degree criminology courses.

01:24:54.000 Oh yeah, you know, you think that, you know, if you don't break any of the laws, and you think if you do everything the right way... No, they need people to pack these private prisons!

01:25:04.000 Well, you know, what they're doing, even on my local level, because I was a victim of this myself, and I can tell you right now, you don't have to break the law to get arrested, and you don't have to break the law to get put in jail, and you don't have to break the law to have your reputation ruined, lose your job, lose all your money, because some crooked cop For whatever their personal reason is, you know, they decide that, you know, you're a target.

01:25:29.000 And I'll tell you one thing, people listening need to know one thing.

01:25:33.000 The people I worked with, this was 15 years ago, we, one by one, all got arrested, and we all got thrown in jail, and we all got charged with a crime.

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01:26:03.000 I hear you, ma'am.

01:26:03.000 Thanks for the call.

01:26:04.000 I appreciate it.

01:26:06.000 But this is why tyranny always fails, because then it happens to cops' sons and daughters, and then it isn't good.

01:26:11.000 You see, they abuse so many people that everybody then resists.

01:26:15.000 That's why they're trying to put in this cashless society control grid, so you can't escape it once enough people wake up.

01:26:21.000 But the enemy is our biggest recruiter.

01:26:22.000 And I'm not saying the police themselves are the enemy.

01:26:24.000 There's a lot of good police.

01:26:25.000 But when the government becomes criminal, they start promoting the sociopaths and psychopaths, and whole towns go bad, and then whole countries.

01:26:34.000 Let's talk now to... Oh, who is up next here?

01:26:40.000 James in New Jersey, go ahead.

01:26:43.000 Alex, a recent convert.

01:26:46.000 Found your show on the internet a couple months ago.

01:26:48.000 Quickly subscribed to Genesis Communications for your archives.

01:26:51.000 Subscribed to PrisonPlanetTV.com.

01:26:55.000 Tested out audio tapes to my professors, my boss, etc, etc.

01:26:59.000 I just have two questions for you.

01:27:02.000 Now that my semester's ended, I'd like you, if you could, to recommend five books for me to read.

01:27:08.000 And the second question, if you could, do you have any information what happened to Delmar Michael Vreeland?

01:27:15.000 I haven't heard anything about that guy.

01:27:17.000 I don't know.

01:27:18.000 He was the naval intelligence guy who was in jail up in Canada Well, was he actually naval intelligence?

01:27:26.000 That's what he claimed.

01:27:28.000 Well, he was in the Navy and had been involved in intelligence.

01:27:31.000 That came out in the Canadian press.

01:27:32.000 And he had told jail guards there was going to be an attack on Lower Manhattan using aircraft months before 9-11, and then it did happen, and then he disappeared, and we don't know what happened to him.

01:27:43.000 Okay.

01:27:43.000 And five books!

01:27:45.000 Boy, what a...

01:27:46.000 I can give you a self-serving answer, but I really think Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsor, Terror of the New World Order.

01:27:53.000 My book, Descent into Tyranny.

01:27:54.000 I would get Jews of the Preservation of Firearms. 1.00

01:27:59.000 I have some great books.

01:28:01.000 It depends on what you're wanting.

01:28:03.000 How about Tragedy and Hope?

01:28:04.000 What do you think of that?

01:28:05.000 Oh, an 800-900 page book by Carol Quigley, professor at Georgetown about the New World Order?

01:28:11.000 Yeah, you'll learn a lot, but that was a 60s view.

01:28:13.000 I mean, there's a lot more out now.

01:28:15.000 That's why I'm asking you now.

01:28:17.000 It depends on what area.

01:28:19.000 I mean, what do you want to know about?

01:28:21.000 Mainly history.

01:28:24.000 Man, it takes more than five books.

01:28:25.000 I don't really... Reading different perspectives... You ought to read The Battle for Gaul by Julius Caesar.

01:28:32.000 Oh, well, believe it or not, I got him.

01:28:34.000 Commentaries.

01:28:35.000 Okay, well, I mean, you know, you read that 300-page book, it's the same Machiavellian manipulation we see today.

01:28:42.000 Read The Prince by Machiavelli.

01:28:44.000 Okay.

01:28:46.000 He wrote two other books.

01:28:47.000 I've read two of them.

01:28:48.000 Can't find the third one.

01:28:49.000 But those are some good history books.

01:28:51.000 Read Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Heinz Hobel's Order of the Deathshead.

01:28:56.000 Order of the Deathshead, man, you talk about... I mean, this is a mainstream, award-winning historical deal about the secret societies and everything going on in Germany.

01:29:03.000 Very interesting.

01:29:04.000 Okay.

01:29:05.000 Alright, well thanks very much.

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01:33:09.000 Alright, Wanda and Jay and Johnny and David and Gary, everybody, your calls are coming up.

01:33:19.000 Paul Watson joins us briefly here.

01:33:21.000 Paul, we've got news.

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01:33:28.000 We've got the New York Times admitting that they destroyed the control tower tapes.

01:33:33.000 They declared national security on it.

01:33:35.000 We've got all this other news coming out, the torture situation.

01:33:39.000 What do you make of them bringing out this torture news now?

01:33:43.000 Why did they do that, Paul, in your opinion?

01:33:45.000 And on top of it, why are the neocons on the radio saying they're just having fun, oh it's no big deal?

01:33:51.000 Well, the interesting thing about the neocons is that they talk all day about anyone who criticizes the government is anti-American.

01:34:00.000 Yet, you know, where in the Constitution Does it say that torture is legitimate?

01:34:05.000 Where in the Bible does it say that torture is legitimate?

01:34:08.000 Is the foundation of America, you know, built on the fact that torture is okay?

01:34:12.000 Well, no.

01:34:13.000 So they are the real anti-Americans, which is ironic, because they spend all day calling everyone else anti-American.

01:34:18.000 Well, that's what Bill Clinton did when he was in office.

01:34:22.000 Well, exactly.

01:34:22.000 And now we've got rum spelled just an hour or so ago in front of Congress, trying to soft-pedal it.

01:34:29.000 Many people are calling for his resignation now.

01:34:32.000 We've got another case in Britain where another soldier has come forward and said that he personally witnessed the fact that these prisoners of war were beaten to death.

01:34:42.000 So that's breaking today in British newspapers.

01:34:46.000 And many more stories on top of that to do with this torture situation.

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01:36:24.000 What do you think of, and of course most of the site is free, anything that isn't on media is, what do you think of Lord Limbaugh going, hey it's no big deal, just blow off some steam.

01:36:35.000 So now if somebody goes and knocks a woman's teeth out and rapes her, it's just having a good time because that's what they're doing in these prisons and he just says they're having a good time.

01:36:43.000 Well, that's exactly the case, and from the other talk show host I heard, I was actually listening to Hannity, I believe it was a few days ago, and he was talking to Oliver North about this torture situation, and basically they were also saying that it was overblown in the media, that it was a liberal bent that was being taken on it, that it was an isolated case, even though, you know, The military report and the reports coming out from Britain also say that it's widespread, that this is in the training to do this.

01:37:19.000 They were given orders to do this, which tells us immediately that it's widespread.

01:37:24.000 Well, if it's on the secret liberal plan, then that means Hannity's behind it.

01:37:29.000 Well, there's also another take on it, which is that It was a European, because some people think that they're a faction.

01:37:38.000 Yeah, Fox News came out two days ago and said it's a secret conspiracy.

01:37:42.000 We actually have the article that a secret group is behind this, a New World Order.

01:37:47.000 So now if you're not for the New World Order, you're secretly with the New World Order.

01:37:51.000 Yeah, it's actually Faction 2, some people call that.

01:37:55.000 I don't give it any credence, because I've seen no evidence for it.

01:37:58.000 But some people believe that it's On behalf of the Europeans meant to attack the credibility of the Bush and Rumsfeld.

01:38:05.000 Sure, the Europeans 50 years ago set up the School of America, brought Joseph Mingala here, taught them how to torture, put Saddam in power, taught him how to torture, they magically control it all. 0.99

01:38:17.000 But what is interesting is the fact that In the Army Report, which is on PrisonPlanet.tv, it actually lists rape of women having sex with female detainees. 0.98

01:38:28.000 That's rape. 1.00

01:38:29.000 So, we had the CIA, just this past weekend, well, it was an Arab website, but half of these so-called Arab websites are run by the CIA anyway, from what we've seen. 0.94

01:38:41.000 But they put out pictures taken from porn websites of rape scenes involving military personnel.

01:38:49.000 And then WorldNetDaily did a big story on how the fact that because these pictures were proven to be not as they were claimed, you know, actual photos, then it means that all the rest of the photos must be placed under suspicion.

01:39:01.000 So even though the official Army report... And by the way, I said last week that that's what was going on.

01:39:08.000 Well, we were considering whether to post them or not, and the conclusion we came to is that that's probably, you know, exactly what they were doing.

01:39:16.000 Throwing this out to try and confuse... Well, I told you on the phone Saturday, I said, you watch, these are going to be, by Monday or Tuesday, it'll be, oh, fake photos, it's all fake.

01:39:27.000 Yeah, and they were grabbed by a lot of other websites and plastered all over their front pages, but we declined to do that because, you know, we're more interested in finding the truth, whatever it is, whether it supports our previous arguments or not, we're not going to put out fake information.

01:39:42.000 Well, I mean, look, the Army has the confessions of brutally raping and doing other things we can talk about here, and it's all admitted, and it goes on in our jails here all the time, and they get caught all the time.

01:39:53.000 I mean, they got caught just 20 miles from me at the Wackenhut prison raping half the women, videotaping it, and they just lost their contract over it. 0.85

01:40:01.000 I mean, this is going on all over the place, and it should be national news that American women are being raped by these people.

01:40:07.000 Did you hear the guy in the last hour? 0.99

01:40:09.000 Talking about them, you know, raping men, raping women, all this stuff. 0.99

01:40:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:40:13.000 It's just amazing. 0.99

01:40:15.000 Paul, there's a lot of other news.

01:40:16.000 What else do you think is important for folks to realize?

01:40:20.000 We've got a big report out of the London Guardian which talks about how the sex trade and underage prostitution has exploded in Kosovo and Bosnia since the recent influx of NATO and UN troops.

01:40:36.000 So yet another article to add to the giant uh... elite sex trade archive which is on PrisonPlanet.com which shows that this worldwide phenomenon, I can't say the word but... Phenomenon, yeah.

01:40:50.000 But it's basically it's created and sustained by international troops, the UN, NATO, who go into all these countries.

01:41:01.000 They even load the children on the planes.

01:41:04.000 Red Cross saw widespread abuse in Iraq, Wall Street Journal, is reporting massive torture that they've been reporting on for a year.

01:41:12.000 We knew about this!

01:41:13.000 You know, it's like Bush saying nothing's going on at Camp X-Ray, where they're torturing people to death.

01:41:17.000 The news didn't want to focus on the general quitting and saying they were torturing.

01:41:20.000 Why are they now bringing it out?

01:41:22.000 To demonize America for the handover to the UN.

01:41:25.000 And no, it's not Europe running it.

01:41:26.000 It's Europe running our country doing it.

01:41:28.000 There's not a split.

01:41:29.000 It's all one group engaging in this theater.

01:41:33.000 Exactly.

01:41:33.000 I'll tell you, Fox has got to be dangerous.

01:41:38.000 I mean, it's got to be, you know, very, very worried to be, you know, coming out and going into a global conspiracy and now even covering that the Saudis are going, look, the new world order is behind Al Qaeda. 0.89

01:41:50.000 You're doing this to destabilize the world.

01:41:53.000 I mean, this has got to scare them.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, one of the Saudi royal family came out and said that Israel runs Al-Qaeda, which is partially true, but then Fox News reported on it, which is even more amazing. 1.00

01:42:05.000 But we've also got a new Bin Laden tape, again off some, you know, strange recluse Arabic website, which immediately this morning the CIA has come out and said is completely genuine, which obviously means that it's fake. 0.94

01:42:21.000 It calls for the Calls for the assassination of Paul Bremer and Kofi Annan.

01:42:27.000 So, you know, it's both on the US and the UN side who are supposedly in opposition.

01:42:32.000 Now, I want to shift gears here for a second, Paul.

01:42:34.000 This will be our final article and I'll go to all your calls that are patiently holding.

01:42:37.000 I want to shift gears.

01:42:40.000 This is from Democracy Now!, but it's admitted mainstream documentation.

01:42:44.000 Plutonium files, how the U.S.

01:42:45.000 secretly fed Rio activity to thousands of Americans.

01:42:49.000 Denver-based journalist Aline Wilson reveals how a reporter for a Tawny Albuquerque Tribune newspaper uncovered one of the country's great Cold War secrets.

01:42:59.000 The U.S.

01:42:59.000 government had knowingly exposed thousands of humans, guinea pigs, with radiation poisoning, including Americans who had plutonium injected directly into their bloodstream.

01:43:08.000 Now, this came out years ago.

01:43:10.000 The GI's wife, they'd say, here, take these pills. 0.99

01:43:12.000 It'd be uranium, plutonium.

01:43:13.000 They'd then have them come in.

01:43:15.000 They'd film the spontaneous miscarriages.

01:43:19.000 In a Massachusetts school, 73 disabled children were spoon-fed oatmeal laced with radioactive isotopes.

01:43:24.000 In an upstate New York hospital, an 18-year-old woman, believing she was being treated for a pituitary disorder, was injected with plutonium.

01:43:32.000 At a Tennessee clinic, 829 pregnant women were served vitamin cocktails, I reported this 8 years ago, with symbols in Time magazine, containing radioactive iron as part of their regular treatment.

01:43:43.000 No, these are not acts of terrorism by common criminals.

01:43:46.000 These are just some of the secret human experimentation by U.S.

01:43:50.000 government conducted on unsuspecting Americans over the last 30 years.

01:43:54.000 And then, this is a huge lengthy report, okay?

01:43:57.000 It's 13 pages.

01:43:59.000 Paul, this shows the psychop... They're putting cancer viruses in the vaccines publicly.

01:44:04.000 My doctor told me that he's been at clinics where they're still giving the SV40 oral polio vaccine that admittedly has a deadly cancer virus.

01:44:13.000 They're putting sterilization stuff in the vaccines.

01:44:16.000 They've been caught doing it again. 0.95

01:44:17.000 I mean, these people are psychopath Nazis that run things, telling us torture's good, and we're sitting here buying it, Paul! 0.95

01:44:24.000 Well, and it's the double think again. 0.74

01:44:26.000 These kind of experiments, you know, automatic abortions, poisoning people, chemical experiments, they go on in the North Korean gulags that we're all told about, which, yes, that's bad to have 200,000 people in these gulags doing it, but again, it's bad when the North Koreans do it, but it's okay when our own government does it. 0.89

01:44:46.000 Well, it's like tsunami in rape rooms.

01:44:48.000 I mean, Bush's speeches could be put to exactly what our government's doing.

01:44:54.000 Well, you can show videos of Saddam and the bad stuff and then just show Bush talking about it and then show what Bush has done!

01:45:00.000 It's bad when Saddam does it, it's okay when we do it. 1.00

01:45:03.000 And for the neocons to, you know, actually say that and get away with it without, you know, catching some flack is amazing, but the Limbaugh clip proves that these people have just gone over the edge on this neocon bent and, you know, it would take a massive wave of You know, blowing the whistle on this to try and counter them.

01:45:22.000 Try and point out the fact that they are the real anti-Americans.

01:45:26.000 I hear you.

01:45:27.000 I appreciate you joining us, Paul.

01:45:28.000 Hope people sign up at PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:45:30.000 Great job there.

01:45:31.000 Take care.

01:45:32.000 Okay, thanks.

01:45:33.000 Alright, let's just bam bam bam through these.

01:45:35.000 Let's talk to... Who is up next here?

01:45:38.000 I could... Wanda in Missouri. 0.98

01:45:41.000 Go ahead, Wanda. 0.73

01:45:42.000 Yes.

01:45:44.000 This current violence and torture is Satan's angry rebuttal.

01:45:49.000 To the Passion film, which engendered a powerful Christian conscience that could result in national repentance, God's forgiveness, and His absolute protection.

01:46:02.000 I agree, we're being bathed in wickedness.

01:46:05.000 Yes.

01:46:06.000 It's time of the life days.

01:46:09.000 People should take warning.

01:46:11.000 Well, I have to say, never before has torture been public in the Western world.

01:46:15.000 That is, it's a good thing we brag about it in modern times.

01:46:19.000 I mean, this is medieval, what we see happening, Wanda.

01:46:22.000 Yes, it is.

01:46:24.000 And I mean, at least in the medieval times, they didn't do sexual things, they just tortured you.

01:46:28.000 This is sexual, this is really evil.

01:46:31.000 The Bible says things will wax... This is what serial killers do, they do this to people.

01:46:35.000 Go ahead, I'm sorry.

01:46:36.000 People say, er, the scripture says that things will wax worse and worse.

01:46:42.000 That evil will be called good, and good will be called evil.

01:46:47.000 Perfect definition of it, thank you.

01:46:49.000 Let's talk to Jay in Colorado.

01:46:51.000 Jay, go ahead.

01:46:52.000 Hey, I was watching the Secretary Rumsfeld squirm his way on the hill here.

01:47:00.000 You mean Snaky Snake? 0.97

01:47:02.000 Oh God, he's despicable. 0.97

01:47:03.000 Unbelievable. 0.88

01:47:05.000 But there's a Congressman Sessions, I think, from Alabama, who started off his remarks or his questioning... Sessions, if it's Sessions, is from East Texas.

01:47:15.000 Uh, this was Alabama.

01:47:17.000 Okay.

01:47:18.000 Anyway, everybody else was given the old media.

01:47:22.000 We're all disgusted.

01:47:23.000 This guy started off with a big adoration for Rumsfeld and the whole panel, all the generals that were squirming as well.

01:47:30.000 And then he says, and I understand that there's a bunch of people in this body that are complainers right now.

01:47:38.000 I also understand that the terrorists aren't happy with you too.

01:47:42.000 Because I just heard that they have a bounty out on your head, Mr. Rumsfeld.

01:47:46.000 I appreciate you for all your hard work.

01:47:49.000 I mean, talk about spinning it with the people who are against torture and his role in it.

01:47:55.000 Or against Rumsfeld's business buddies, the Bin Ladens. 1.00

01:47:59.000 Thanks for the call.

01:48:00.000 Good point.

01:48:01.000 Johnny in Hawaii.

01:48:02.000 Go ahead.

01:48:04.000 Thanks Alex.

01:48:05.000 Yeah, I just wanted to make a couple of comments.

01:48:08.000 First of all about Limbaugh.

01:48:09.000 You know, he went over to the dark side a few years ago.

01:48:11.000 I used to like him!

01:48:13.000 I mean, like, six, seven years ago.

01:48:14.000 Yeah, he was a different person.

01:48:16.000 Well, what happened, you may have heard this too, but I heard this on the air.

01:48:19.000 He was talking about a meeting he had with Henry Kissinger, a woman that owns a total Canadian media service, Rupert Murdoch.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, I heard about that.

01:48:30.000 And he's talking about his meeting at a mansion someplace.

01:48:34.000 He couldn't disclose location.

01:48:36.000 And he said, well, we were talking about some things we're going to do in the future and so forth.

01:48:40.000 And this is real, I can tell you.

01:48:42.000 At 9-11, Buffett and others met with all the big CEOs and Bush flew to that base.

01:48:47.000 Yeah.

01:48:48.000 Yeah.

01:48:49.000 And Limbaugh said, well, I know you guys are probably thinking about the Illuminati, you know, and so forth.

01:48:54.000 But I really can't say anything more about it.

01:48:56.000 He didn't mention Illuminati.

01:48:58.000 No, yeah, it's all part of Flon.

01:49:00.000 He's talking about this torture, and he says skull and bones.

01:49:02.000 Yeah, and shortly after that, he went deaf, and now he's being busted for drugs.

01:49:08.000 Another thing about the Iraqi torture, yes, it is evil, it is bad.

01:49:14.000 Most of it is torture, some of it is hazing, but I heard on the news a couple of days ago, it was mainstream media, that they put the Iraqis Republican Guard in charge of Security forces and the top guy that Saddam used for his development guard.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, that's the point!

01:49:33.000 He was trained by us to begin with!

01:49:34.000 Exactly, yeah.

01:49:36.000 So, they're just putting their old boys back in.

01:49:38.000 Thanks for the call.

01:49:38.000 Incredible points, incredible.

01:49:40.000 David in Pennsylvania, go ahead.

01:49:42.000 Or Daryl, excuse me.

01:49:44.000 Hi, Alex. 0.99

01:49:46.000 Sometimes I want to pull my hair out and I don't have much left when I hear people call in and say that the Jews run the New World Order and that the Jews are going to kill us all.

01:49:54.000 And I really appreciate the fact that you often squelch that very quickly. 0.98

01:49:59.000 And we've got to realize, we're very ignorant, most Americans are very ignorant of history, but it's been so-called Christians who have butchered and tortured other Christians in the name of Christ throughout history. 0.96

01:50:10.000 It has not been Jewish armies that have gone on rampages on the cruise. 0.98

01:50:15.000 Every culture engages in this, especially when they're in decline, so everybody's getting out to blame. 0.71

01:50:22.000 So, I hope people won't get this idea that this is all a Jewish plot, and that the Jews are going to torture everybody in that.

01:50:29.000 We better look in the mirror and take a look at Christianity, Alex. 1.00

01:50:33.000 Well, to false Christianity. 0.99

01:50:34.000 Thank you for the call.

01:50:36.000 We're out of time for this segment.

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02:00:07.000 Alright, Dr. Dennis Cuddy, New World Order expert, joining us.

02:00:13.000 Right now, let's blitz through your calls.

02:00:16.000 Ken in Mississippi, you're on the air.

02:00:18.000 Go ahead.

02:00:19.000 This is Ken, yeah.

02:00:22.000 Thanks for getting me on.

02:00:23.000 Look, you've talked about automobile shutdown devices and devices for shutting down communications.

02:00:32.000 I was looking on the local news the other day, and I just got the story off the internet, where there's this company called Ionitron of Tucson, Arizona.

02:00:41.000 Says they won a $9 million defense contract.

02:00:46.000 And, uh, what the contract was for was developing a wireless taser capable of shooting electrical discharges that can disable vehicles and communications.

02:01:01.000 Well, they already have wired into all the new cars a kill switch for the police helicopter to shut your car down.

02:01:08.000 Uh, and they're also wiring it in where if you don't pay your payment, people don't even know this because they don't pay it, your car doesn't start.

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02:01:23.000 I mean, that's the new America.

02:01:24.000 Uh, they've got the satellite tracker plug-ins and all the new cars made in the last nine years.

02:01:29.000 I mean, it's all happening, sir.

02:01:31.000 I know we've had the black boxes in the cars, and I try to keep two or three cars at least twenty-three.

02:01:38.000 30 years old, but I know the equipment existed, but they're trying to mass produce it.

02:01:46.000 They're wanting to hire 300 people.

02:01:48.000 Oracle goes on to say that Ionitron is engaged in Department of Defense and Homeland Security work.

02:01:59.000 Well, every day I see Homeland Security going, we're here to fight crime.

02:02:02.000 We're putting in cameras that scan your license plates.

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02:02:07.000 We're here to fight the criminals.

02:02:09.000 And criminals won't have any new process now, because we say you're criminals because we're criminals.

02:02:13.000 Thanks for the call, Ken.

02:02:14.000 I appreciate it.

02:02:16.000 Who's up next?

02:02:18.000 Randy in Florida.

02:02:19.000 Go ahead.

02:02:19.000 Hey, Alex.

02:02:21.000 Hello.

02:02:21.000 You know, I would just say, for instance, as far as our military, Now, John Quincy Adams says this, America doesn't go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

02:02:33.000 She's the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

02:02:36.000 She's the champion and vindicator only of her own.

02:02:39.000 She well knows that while once enlisting under other banners than her own, were there even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication and all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors of patriotism and usurp the standards of freedom.

02:02:58.000 Sounds just like us in Iraq, doesn't it?

02:03:00.000 Yeah, but FEMA teaches police, and I have this in video, that all Founding Fathers are terrorists. 0.99

02:03:05.000 All Christians today are terrorists. 1.00

02:03:06.000 All homeschoolers are terrorists. 1.00

02:03:08.000 And I agree, the Founding Fathers were evil. 0.98

02:03:10.000 I support Bush and Clinton, our leaders, our gods, our masters.

02:03:15.000 We must learn to give our freedoms up.

02:03:17.000 We must learn to worship government.

02:03:19.000 We must learn the Founding Fathers are bad.

02:03:23.000 Contrast that to what Henry Kissinger said in The Final Days book by Woodward and Bernstein. 1.00

02:03:29.000 In Alexander Haig's presence, he referred poignantly to military men as dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy. 1.00

02:03:39.000 Well, and to breathe the pretty... Look, you love the troops by letting them die of the pretty uranium. 1.00

02:03:44.000 When you stand up for them, that's evil. 0.98

02:03:47.000 When you help kill them, it's loving and conservative.

02:03:50.000 You haven't learned yet how this works? 0.96

02:03:54.000 Well, you know, I mean, That people continue to, and I imagine even some of your listeners are still contemplating voting for that phony conservative book.

02:04:02.000 He showed his true colors the other day by backing that liberal weasel, Armin Specter, instead of the true conservative in the Pennsylvania Senators race.

02:04:11.000 Well, they don't just do that.

02:04:12.000 They got Janet Reno's former personal attorney covered up China Gate and then Waco Gate. 0.94

02:04:20.000 He voted on his own family's voting machines and he magically became the new congressman from Austin.

02:04:24.000 You haven't figured out the way things work yet?

02:04:26.000 The only valid choice is the Constitution Party or the Libertarians.

02:04:30.000 Oh, the Constitution Party has a conservative record.

02:04:33.000 That's evil!

02:04:36.000 You've got to be for communism.

02:04:38.000 That's conservatism.

02:04:39.000 Haven't you learned yet?

02:04:42.000 Oh my goodness!

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02:08:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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02:09:43.000 Dr. Dennis Cuddy, good to have you back on.

02:09:46.000 For those who don't know who you are, tell us about your background, how you awoke to the New World Order.

02:09:50.000 Then I want to get into Bush's comments in the Rose Garden that, well, if I had something to hide, I'm covering something up, I wouldn't be talking to the Commission, you know, all your business partners.

02:10:03.000 Dr. Cuddy, tell us about yourself.

02:10:05.000 Okay, but first remember also he said he enjoyed it, which was I thought a strange term to use when you're talking about something that resulted in 3,000 lives being lost.

02:10:16.000 I enjoyed it, yes.

02:10:19.000 Okay, my background basically is I had been to what was at the time in the 60s the first governor's school in the nation.

02:10:29.000 Now every state has one, but it had been funded by Carnegie.

02:10:33.000 And it seems strange.

02:10:35.000 The Psychological Corporation, which has its own curious history, wanted to track us and follow us, and Carnegie had funded the thing.

02:10:46.000 And I became somewhat suspicious that there was this sort of powerful group, because they kept opening doors for me, and eventually they found out that I was questioning them, and that's when the doors started closing.

02:10:58.000 But I taught in the public schools and then taught at the university level.

02:11:03.000 Went up to Washington for a while during most of the Reagan years to do battle with the bureaucrats up there trying to enforce busing and things like that.

02:11:12.000 Gave some advice to the Justice Department.

02:11:15.000 Testified on Capitol Hill.

02:11:17.000 Did some international political and economic risk analyses.

02:11:22.000 Then left there and came back right about the time George H.W.

02:11:26.000 Bush was president Starting his talk about the New World Order, and all of a sudden things pretty much clicked.

02:11:32.000 I've been compiling information for like 30 years, beginning in the 70s, where during graduate school, one of my professors had signed a paper, and I wrote it, and his response was very curious.

02:11:45.000 He had come from Yale, and he kept asking me these curious questions, and what I had been writing then 30 years ago was that there may be this sort of conspiracy going on.

02:11:55.000 And I quoted from the muckrakers who were, a hundred years ago, the investigative reporters of the day.

02:12:00.000 And little did you know that Carol Quigley had a suppressed book admitting all of this, that he'd been in their secret documents.

02:12:06.000 But that's a good place to start.

02:12:08.000 Let's just start right here.

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02:12:14.000 The night after you heard me on Coast to Coast for three hours, a month and a half ago, Brian Lamb and this professor doing all this templing of the hands and his Masonic flashes, all this communication goes on.

02:12:26.000 They attack me for a full hour.

02:12:29.000 He said the most amazing conspiracy is that there's a New World Order group that wants world government.

02:12:34.000 Well, wait a minute!

02:12:35.000 We have hundreds of CFR publications, foreign affairs, that call for a New World Order.

02:12:40.000 We have thousands of public statements by chancellors, prime ministers, presidents, CEOs, We have older public policy reports.

02:12:48.000 We have the Supreme Court saying they follow the orders of the UN.

02:12:51.000 We have the global governance, the global taxes being shut up.

02:12:55.000 This is like saying we're wild conspiracy theorists, Dr. Cuddy, now in 2004, because we believe the sun comes up in the morning. 0.95

02:13:02.000 Man, we're really nuts.

02:13:03.000 We believe that there are blue whales In the Atlantic Ocean, we believe that Tweety Birds live in trees.

02:13:10.000 We believe that George Washington was a real person.

02:13:14.000 So how do they openly say New World Order and then we're crazy because we believe it exists?

02:13:20.000 Yeah, there's a deliberate sort of disinformation going on.

02:13:25.000 That's why you and I try and put it in their own words.

02:13:29.000 So, for example, when I have a book like The Globalist, I'll actually put a copy of Bill Clinton's letter in which he supports world government in there by name.

02:13:38.000 And so whenever a Brian Lamb or somebody does that, what I try to do is I know where they're coming from, so I'll ask them a set-up question.

02:13:46.000 I'll say, well, suppose I told you there's a power somewhere so complete, so pervasive, so interlocked, so watchful, you better not speak above your breath when you're speaking condemnation of it.

02:13:55.000 And then I'll say, and furthermore, suppose I told you that the government of the United States has been owned by a financial element ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.

02:14:04.000 Then they start laughing.

02:14:05.000 The Brian Lambs. 1.00

02:14:06.000 Aha, this is ridiculous, you're a nut. 1.00

02:14:07.000 So forth. 0.99

02:14:08.000 I would say, but Brian, don't you understand that what I just did is quote you from Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt, both of whom you admire?

02:14:16.000 That sort of stops them in their tracks, and then you go from there.

02:14:19.000 And there's whole debates.

02:14:21.000 This was in the Congressional Record.

02:14:23.000 Right.

02:14:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:14:26.000 There's debates.

02:14:27.000 There's, like you said, the secret records that Carol Quigley got a hold of, and then I was able to get a hold of some after that to a friend.

02:14:35.000 Actually approached Mrs. Quigley after Professor Quigley, who was Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, after his death, and he purchased all of her material.

02:14:43.000 Now we got Strub Talbot coming out and saying, you're going to have world government whether you like it or not, and we've got him in foreign affairs saying it's going to take blood to build it, new world order, new world order, and then Rush Limbaugh says it doesn't exist, you're crazy if you even say it, well then George Herbert Walker is crazy because he talked about it two hundred and something times.

02:15:02.000 Yeah, and doesn't it strike you as curious, what sort of put me on to this game that they're playing in Washington is, when I read what you just said, Strobe Talbot, in July 20th, 1992, Time Magazine, saying, quote, perhaps national sovereignty was not such a great idea after all the case for world government is clinched, end quote, I said, well now surely that guy is not going to be confirmed by the U.S.

02:15:27.000 Senate to be like number two in the State Department, But he was.

02:15:31.000 95 or so out of 100 U.S.

02:15:32.000 Senators, including any so-called conservatives, voted for this guy, even after he said that.

02:15:40.000 Well, I mean, I just had a huge hit piece written on me and my webmaster, Paul Watson, at Vanity Fair, and Alex Jones thinks that the Bushes flew out the Bin Laden's.

02:15:49.000 Alex Jones thinks there were drills of flying planes into buildings.

02:15:52.000 That's kind of funny, because then it came out in mainstream news a few weeks later.

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02:15:59.000 That's in the mainstream news!

02:16:03.000 Yeah, and still, they insist that there's nothing going on.

02:16:09.000 There was one recent one, I think it's, I believe it's a J.R.

02:16:13.000 Nyquist, he writes for World Ed Daily, and he's been having an email back and forth with people, with someone I know about, people like you and me, and he's putting us down as, oh, you know, these people don't know what they're talking about, and so forth.

02:16:30.000 You confront these, and the friend sort of confronted this fellow and says, okay, tell me then, since you know all about these people, Cuddy, Alex Jones, whoever.

02:16:39.000 Uh, about Cecil Rhodes' connection with Arnold Toynbee, let's say, for example.

02:16:43.000 Immediately, they shut up, because they really don't know, and they don't want to know, or they're part of some sort of... Well, here's the deal.

02:16:49.000 You know, we've supported World Net Daily, and they used to be good, uh, in the past, but now they're so neo-conned out. 1.00

02:16:55.000 I mean, they, admittedly, went and got our article from an interview about the implantable chips, and one of the very chip suppliers took it, sent it to an American talk show house, took our quotes, and I talked to Sherry Gossett.

02:17:04.000 She said, I put your name in there, said where it came from, but they wouldn't let me say your name!

02:17:10.000 Yeah, it's closing down.

02:17:12.000 Some, also, radio stations are being bought up.

02:17:16.000 And remember, Jaina Davis, who was covering the Oklahoma City, after she talked a lot about that, her station was bought up and she was out of a job, too.

02:17:26.000 What's happening in the world right now?

02:17:28.000 No, this is Jayna Davis in Oklahoma City, her channel 4.

02:17:31.000 No, I know about Jayna Davis, but I mean, World Net Daily's not, are they?

02:17:35.000 No, no, but I was saying stations like hers are bought up, and other radio stations get bought up, and so they'll knock conservative talk shows off the air, and only the Rush Limbaugh type seem to be flourishing there. 0.97

02:17:49.000 There's all this talk about FEMA camps, put people in FEMA camps that disagree with the government on national radio.

02:17:55.000 Lots of generals talking about martial law is good.

02:17:57.000 What do you think about that?

02:18:01.000 Well, when they talk about that, they have a set-up, a sort of program that they're about to condition the public to be willing to at least accept the possibilities.

02:18:11.000 Now, when you confront them, they'll say, oh, no, no, we just mentioned if there's illegal people and if there's a crisis and a nuclear bomb has dropped here and so forth, but then what you and I try to do is provide The documents which have in their own words where properties have been bought up, or you actually go out and get video of the places that are being constructed.

02:18:33.000 And so it's hard for them to refute that, so their backup is to ridicule or either block or ignore or try to discredit in some way, which is what they're doing.

02:18:45.000 It's scary.

02:18:45.000 We're going to break here in a minute.

02:18:46.000 I want to come back and get into the 9-11 whitewash commission and we'll go to folks all over the world who want to talk to you and cover some of the news.

02:18:55.000 But Dr. Cuddy, I see a mass awakening taking place and I think that's why they pulled out all the stops and have the neocons engaging in Trojan horse behavior.

02:19:03.000 Do you see a mass awakening?

02:19:06.000 I really hope so, but we're up against it because the public has been conditioned to be tuned out and turned off and confused.

02:19:14.000 It's not that they lie, I mean they do that, but what they also do is they throw a bunch of information out there of a different variety and so the public is having to sort through it to find out which pieces are accurate.

02:19:28.000 That's it.

02:19:29.000 Absolutely.

02:19:30.000 Mind control to boil it down for you, ladies and gentlemen.

02:19:33.000 All right.

02:19:34.000 We'll be back with Dr. Dennis Cuddy, an amazing researcher and author.

02:19:36.000 We'll tell you about his books later.

02:19:38.000 Ab, we'll take your calls and get into the news.

02:19:40.000 Please stay with us.

02:19:41.000 We'll be right back.

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02:23:52.000 I want to get into the 9-11 whitewash meeting yesterday, but...

02:23:56.000 I'm just talking to Dr. Cuddy about the moral breakdown.

02:23:58.000 I mean, it's a mass programming.

02:24:00.000 When you turn on all the dramas, I mean, all of them, and torture's good, the government's going to torture you, the Bill of Rights is bad.

02:24:07.000 When I walk around in the mall, the grocery store, at the gym, and Marilyn Manson is now the elevator music.

02:24:12.000 Just the background music is bad!

02:24:14.000 Devil power! 0.99

02:24:16.000 I mean, you know, sex everywhere. 0.94

02:24:18.000 People take their children to Britney Spears concerts that are now totally pornographic.

02:24:23.000 Now it's not just that this stuff's going on, it's mainstream, and we're bad because we're talking about politics.

02:24:30.000 And Dr. Cuddy, you were bringing up a point during the break.

02:24:33.000 Go ahead.

02:24:35.000 Do we have Dr. Cuddy there?

02:24:36.000 Yes, sir.

02:24:38.000 You were bringing up a point about the moral breakdown during the break when I was talking to you.

02:24:42.000 Yeah, you were asking about if there might be an awakening, and I was saying I hope so.

02:24:48.000 The problem is we have to overcome like 30 years of a conditioning process.

02:24:52.000 They had a program on ABC last night, the show Primetime, and the host, Charlie Gibson, was really surprised at all the cheating that was going on, especially among young people.

02:25:01.000 And what apparently he or people don't realize is that this conditioning process has been rather deliberate.

02:25:10.000 A new morality.

02:25:11.000 In fact, Ted Sizer, one of the educational leaders, 30 years ago said, we're going to, you know, not have all this moral sermonizing.

02:25:18.000 We're going to have situation ethics and moral relativism will be the new values.

02:25:22.000 And so these kids today, especially, have come along with a, you know, what's in it for me, look out for number one.

02:25:27.000 And that's why they don't care about a NAFTA, for example, that takes away American jobs.

02:25:32.000 They've been conditioned to love Big Brother, as Orwell said.

02:25:36.000 And as you were just saying, in terms of morality, you had several soap operas years ago that had the hero rape women, and nothing was thought of as, you know, he was still considered a great guy.

02:25:48.000 And then the frenetic pace, like you said, of the music, that's deliberate too.

02:25:52.000 Orwell said, what if we quicken the tempo of human life?

02:25:55.000 And so they created this sort of frenetic, hyper-reality movement on TV ads and in the music, and that destabilizes the population.

02:26:04.000 And you need that stability to calmly reflect on what the government's doing to you, but they want to keep you busy.

02:26:09.000 You know, keep them busy.

02:26:10.000 Go, go, go, go, go.

02:26:12.000 And so this is one of the things that translates even into our problems in Iraq, of all places, because what you have is The Muslims don't believe in the, quote, separation of church and state that we have here. 0.99

02:26:24.000 They actually believe that religion is important, and a relationship with God.

02:26:28.000 Now, I'm not going to get into the Muslim religion, but they believe that religion is very important, and they believe in Islamic law, and so they see Western democracy, as we call it.

02:26:37.000 Actually, like you say, we're a constitutional republic.

02:26:40.000 But we keep saying we're bringing Western democracy. 0.99

02:26:42.000 They see that as allowing this garbage. 0.74

02:26:44.000 And they get satellite TV and really think that's what America is all about, and they're terrified. 0.81

02:26:50.000 Yeah, and unfortunately, like you just alluded to, it looks like we're becoming that way mainstream, unfortunately.

02:26:58.000 Well, I mean, it's scientifically crafted. 0.99

02:27:01.000 Uh, when, when, when, I mean, they're conditioning us that, that, that, that being wicked is, you know, look, Saddam's bad because he tortured, but then I hear the neocons going, yeah, torture them Iraqis, make them have homosexual sex, make them, you know, stand there with electricity, you know, um, you know, torture them, it's good. 0.98

02:27:19.000 It's good when we do it, it's bad when they do it, it's double think. 0.98

02:27:22.000 Uh, yeah, and it's not just in that one area.

02:27:25.000 We, we have actually tortured in Afghanistan prisoners to death. 0.80

02:27:29.000 So we have done that, and I think one of the reasons that's why the Bush administration yanked that billion dollars that the court awarded to the POWs who were tortured in the first Gulf War away from them, because what other countries would do is also start freezing our assets over there, and so they didn't want that.

02:27:50.000 And what you have is, like you were just saying, it's a process.

02:27:54.000 Years ago, Rockefeller Foundation, I'll be quick about this, They, in 1933, began to say, we want to fund social control, the control of human behavior.

02:28:03.000 So they sent people out.

02:28:05.000 They had a radio project, and that's where that War of the Worlds, that famous radio show, came from.

02:28:09.000 They analyzed it, and they called it Mass Psychology of Panic.

02:28:14.000 And so what they did is Theodore Adorno was the head from the Frankfurt School was head of their music division and then he created this sort of frenetic music that we would hear with like hard rock and the Beatles and others picked up on that in the 60s and then it's even worse now.

02:28:28.000 And there was a deliberate strategy.

02:28:31.000 You'd have the Jefferson Airplane and the Who and the Mothers of Invention actually saying, and I put these quotes, that what we're trying to do is create a revolution, a generation gap, separate the young people from the values of their parents.

02:28:44.000 And then we had Ms. 1.00

02:28:45.000 Magazine being publicly funded by the CIA to break men and women up.

02:28:51.000 And now they're going to sell the microchips as a youth thing.

02:28:53.000 The kids are already saying, I want it, Mom and Dad.

02:28:56.000 I don't have to have permission.

02:28:58.000 I'm going out and getting it.

02:29:00.000 Yeah, and the CIA will be at CNN, for example.

02:29:03.000 They'll be at Simon & Schuster.

02:29:05.000 And if you write a book that goes there that they don't like, it doesn't get published and so on, yeah.

02:29:11.000 This is all admitted.

02:29:12.000 We'll come back, get a little bit into the 9-11 Commission, and I promise directly to your calls. 1.00

02:29:16.000 Straight to your calls, and then we'll get into 9-11, and talk about Dr. Dennis Cuddy's books as well.

02:29:21.000 And we'll also plug some of the websites that carry his great writings.

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02:33:01.000 You have to try to be a moral person.

02:33:04.000 And I'm talking about myself here, too.

02:33:06.000 It's very easy in this society to break down.

02:33:10.000 They've really designed it well.

02:33:12.000 So I'm not preaching at you.

02:33:13.000 You need to love your wife, love your husband, love your family.

02:33:16.000 Educate your children about the New World Order. 0.80

02:33:19.000 Explain to your children that the society is designed to break up the family, designed to sell them rebellion in the name of being individualistic, whereas in reality it's designed to get them into the prison system, into the slave grid.

02:33:35.000 If you educate the young people like that, they'll wake up and see what's happening and fight against it.

02:33:39.000 I've found that.

02:33:40.000 Show them where the real revolution is, and we can deprogram them.

02:33:44.000 But if you sit there and go, oh, you can't do this because it's too much fun, or you can't do this because, you know, I say so, it's not going to work.

02:33:52.000 You've got to warn your family.

02:33:53.000 You've got to be strong.

02:33:56.000 Again, Ms.

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02:33:57.000 Gloria Steinem admits it.

02:33:59.000 She was set up by the CIA to break up the family. 0.70

02:34:02.000 That's some amazing admissions!

02:34:05.000 But going back to Dr. Dennis Cuddy, Doctor, let's take some calls.

02:34:09.000 I want to get into 9-11 and also Iraq, okay? 1.00

02:34:12.000 Okay.

02:34:12.000 But before we do that, tell folks about some of your new books.

02:34:17.000 Well, the latest one is a cover-up, Government Spinner Truth, which is largely about 9-11, but it's also a little bit about Iraq.

02:34:25.000 And it came out just as the war was beginning, but I was saying That they probably would not find any large caches of weapons of mass destruction.

02:34:34.000 And then I followed that up by explaining what Saddam's strategy was, which Rumsfeld and Cheney said, oh, we can't believe he's planning a guerrilla war.

02:34:43.000 Well, yesterday, front page of the New York Times, sure enough, that's what he was planning.

02:34:48.000 But isn't part of that the Pentagon trying to say, it's not the Iraqi people, they love us, why it's Saddam?

02:34:53.000 I mean, Saddam doesn't control the Shiites.

02:34:57.000 Yeah, they're trying to say that, but when a fellow I know who was going over in his, like, Bremer's right-hand man, before he left, he called up and said, you know, what do you think I should expect?

02:35:06.000 I said, look out for the religious unrest, and basically, you know, he said, well, it's the Sunnis, yeah.

02:35:11.000 I said, no, no, no, no, you have to watch out for the Shiites as well.

02:35:15.000 They're being nice temporarily because they think they're majority.

02:35:17.000 But people like this Al-Sadr, remember, they want Islamic law. 0.99

02:35:22.000 And they see us as a threat because our government allows pornography and all of this.

02:35:26.000 So I said, you watch it, it's going to break loose.

02:35:29.000 Sure enough, it has.

02:35:32.000 How do folks get the books?

02:35:35.000 Well, the main number would be a toll-free number to the publisher, 888-891-9000.

02:35:43.000 3-3-0-0-8-8-8-8-9-1-3-3-0-0.

02:35:44.000 The September 11 Prior Knowledge Book is now coming back into print with an index and a printing of the letter I received from Homeland Security saying they found 12 information circulars, warnings regarding 9-11, but they're not going to let me see them.

02:36:03.000 So I put that letter in that book as well.

02:36:07.000 All right, let's go ahead and go to some calls here.

02:36:10.000 Let's talk to Michael in Honolulu, Hawaii.

02:36:15.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:36:16.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:36:17.000 Always a pleasure to talk with you.

02:36:20.000 You were sort of psychic this morning because you answered both of my questions from the last guest, but I did want to make one comment with all that's going on.

02:36:28.000 There's the guy that called in a while ago that said he was depressed and didn't know what to do.

02:36:33.000 Well, it's very simple.

02:36:36.000 Find two people that you can start educating with the things that you're sharing, your websites and everything, and then they start doing the same thing with two other people.

02:36:44.000 I can tell you that I had some friends at my church who were asking me, are you going to be voting for Bush or whatever, about the New World Order?

02:36:51.000 I was able to share with them some of the things that even Dr. Cuddy has written.

02:36:55.000 I just turned them onto your website and everything.

02:37:00.000 They were so blown away with the information and everything.

02:37:02.000 Now they are just so hungry for more information.

02:37:06.000 I'm just encouraging them, hey, find other people and do the same thing.

02:37:11.000 I've found in life if you just get up and work and stand up and are strong and do your

02:37:18.000 homework you can wake people up because this whole thing is hidden in plain view.

02:37:22.000 Dr. Cuddy, isn't the key to really good propaganda that it speaks to our laziness?

02:37:26.000 That it speaks to our fears and gives us excuses to just go along?

02:37:31.000 I mean, that's really what this propaganda does.

02:37:33.000 Yeah, it does that and then they follow that up.

02:37:36.000 what they do is they provide test cases to probe us to see how far they can go.

02:37:42.000 You know, they'll throw a, let's get the Bible, a school prayer out.

02:37:45.000 We huff and puff and yell and have 10,000 people rally, but then they have their people

02:37:50.000 in place in the courts to knock us down and we say, oh, well, you know, we tried.

02:37:53.000 What can we do?

02:37:54.000 And that's part of Tavistock, who you're familiar with, their theory of social turbulence,

02:38:00.000 where you go into, you cause people to go into psychological retreat.

02:38:03.000 Here's an example.

02:38:04.000 They come out with Total Information Awareness Network, All Seeing Eye, New World Order, to get us mad.

02:38:10.000 Then they go, OK, we changed the name.

02:38:12.000 Then they really double the funding.

02:38:13.000 Then they come out with matrix systems and all this.

02:38:15.000 And they go, OK, we're not going to do that.

02:38:16.000 Then we find out the states are already doing it.

02:38:18.000 Every time you order a pizza or buy something, it's being uploaded immediately to Homeland Security.

02:38:25.000 They're always coming up with new names, new boogeymen, but always the system just moves forward.

02:38:31.000 Yeah, and another part of that is they'll propose a piece of, let's say, really outrageous legislation with 20 points.

02:38:38.000 And then we complain.

02:38:40.000 You and I and all of the people complain.

02:38:42.000 And they say, okay, we'll compromise and we'll just have these 10 points.

02:38:46.000 And Congress goes on and passes that and all along... But that's not a compromise because I know.

02:38:52.000 Obviously you know, but what I'm saying is that if we gave them 10 points and then they gave us 10 things we wanted, that would be a compromise.

02:38:58.000 When they say we want this and we only give them half, that's not a compromise.

02:39:02.000 Right.

02:39:02.000 And the point is, that's what they planned all along.

02:39:05.000 They knew that we would do that, and so this is their fallback position, which was their goal all along.

02:39:11.000 Well, it's like Bush saying, oh, you've got to repass the Patriot Act.

02:39:16.000 It's coming up for reauthorization.

02:39:18.000 All the key provisions aren't sunsetted.

02:39:20.000 That's a red herring to have another vote and add stuff to it.

02:39:23.000 I said that.

02:39:24.000 Then Bush indeed did say that.

02:39:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:39:27.000 And that's a third part of their strategy.

02:39:29.000 This is multifaceted, and it's to keep people off balance.

02:39:33.000 And you're kept also so busy, you know, I've got to go to the shopping mall, I've got to take the child to the ballgame, so on and so on.

02:39:38.000 Dr. Cuddy, it's not just compartmentalization.

02:39:41.000 Thanks for the call, Michael.

02:39:42.000 Good job.

02:39:42.000 Keep it up.

02:39:47.000 You know, I want people to know there are thousands of eggheads with 170 IQs sociopathically sitting around, you know, right here at UT.

02:39:55.000 I've been allowed into the psychology department, and they're just like, yes, here's the DARPA mind control systems.

02:39:59.000 We're testing how to manipulate you with TV patterns, and I can't show you the classified stuff.

02:40:04.000 What do you think of this?

02:40:05.000 None of it's even hidden, and, you know, To the people out there, I mean, you've got to become aware of this, but here's the question.

02:40:14.000 How do they find all these people that would knowingly be part of something to enslave humanity, Dr. Cuddy?

02:40:20.000 Well, like I said, it started years ago, just taking one example.

02:40:23.000 Cecil Rhodes had his plan in the late 1800s to get key people with this type of mindset into journalism, economics, politics, and education.

02:40:32.000 And he said, after 60 years of putting these people in place, we won't even need a conspiracy anymore.

02:40:38.000 We'll just have these like-minded people in key positions as heads of university departments and so on that we'll be able to get our new world order.

02:40:45.000 And then they all go out and pick people that are like-minded that they mentor.

02:40:48.000 Yep, exactly.

02:40:51.000 That's the plan.

02:40:52.000 I mean, it's just like mobsters in New York, you know, the young kid who's from a single parent family, looks pretty tough, twelve years old, they see him scrapping in the street, they go over and hire him, and ten years later he's a top mobster.

02:41:05.000 Yeah, that's what they do.

02:41:07.000 One of the quotes from those muckrakers I mentioned was about the Rockefeller, and it said he has, this is like a hundred years ago, he has agents in every hamlet of the nation and they're watching for those people just

02:41:18.000 like you said so they can groom them

02:41:20.000 fund them getting them to law school make them you know politicians you know

02:41:24.000 that in college i have these people approach me uh... and sent about already about a offering money

02:41:30.000 everything and it's just like you know the movies with the devil

02:41:34.000 uh... you know i mean they literally sit there and go your crusades going nowhere join us be a star

02:41:39.000 I mean, the New World Order's good. 0.59

02:41:41.000 I mean, it really is like this, folks.

02:41:44.000 Yeah, I'll give you one specific example.

02:41:46.000 A fellow named Wayne Peterson, who your listeners probably never heard of, is in the early 60s.

02:41:52.000 He's up in Milwaukee at university.

02:41:54.000 He's going to the cafeteria, and there, at the cafeteria, is David Rockefeller, not in New York City, Chase Manhattan.

02:42:01.000 He's at this cafeteria at this university in Milwaukee.

02:42:05.000 And he says, come over here, fella.

02:42:06.000 The guy comes over, he says, you really want to go into Peace Corps, don't you?

02:42:09.000 He said, well, yeah, I guess so.

02:42:11.000 He gets him to be in charge of writing Brazil's social services program for the whole nation.

02:42:18.000 When the guy finishes that in the Peace Corps, he comes back, walks into his living room of his own home, there sits Melvin Laird, Secretary of Defense, saying, you know, we've got to get you a job in the government.

02:42:28.000 He puts him in charge, gets him a job as head of all the Fulbright programs, and from that position as head of that, this guy goes on to Merv Griffin Show and everything else, promoting Lord Maitreya, who is supposed to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

02:42:42.000 So this is how they work.

02:42:43.000 They reach down and they grab younger people and groom them and fund them and facilitate them and get them high-level positions.

02:42:51.000 Well, it's like a vampire going out and creating more vampires. 0.74

02:42:55.000 Well, they are sucking the nation dry.

02:43:01.000 And what they do is they feed the ego.

02:43:03.000 Like, you'll find a lot of people, let's say in Texas, where you are.

02:43:06.000 You probably have a governor's school there.

02:43:08.000 They say, well, you're the best and the brightest.

02:43:10.000 You know, we're going to give you special treatment, so these little egos come along and say, oh yeah, I'm really special, you know, so I'll find out what this globalism's for, and I'll be really important in the new world order.

02:43:20.000 And then they'll tell them, but the general public is afraid and small-minded, we can't let them all know about it, so just laugh at them.

02:43:27.000 That's right. 1.00

02:43:28.000 They're ignorant. 1.00

02:43:28.000 The other people are ignorant. 1.00

02:43:30.000 You're really smart. 1.00

02:43:30.000 You know best. 1.00

02:43:31.000 And so, you know, that's where your future is.

02:43:34.000 And don't pay attention to your parents, you know, with their old-fashioned values and so forth.

02:43:39.000 By the way, there was this thing, this program, they have Wave and Save and Others, and it said on the website, to tattle on your parents and your neighbors, you get a discount card, $200 we can turn people in.

02:43:50.000 This is in my film, The Takeover.

02:43:52.000 And it says, your parents have old-fashioned views that are dying away.

02:43:56.000 You're young and powerful.

02:43:58.000 It actually said that.

02:44:00.000 Well, it harkens back to the old Hitler Youth Program, where they used to tell the youngsters to do that.

02:44:06.000 By the way, this new national draft, we're going to have to serve domestically as slaves here at home.

02:44:12.000 Well, that's the mandatory, voluntary, quote-unquote, service.

02:44:16.000 And remember, that was part of George Bush's Points of Light initiative, where George Bush, the first President Bush, talked about the need for Points of Light with Service, and then he also talked about the New World Order, and the only other person in all of history, I've found, that uses those terms exactly.

02:44:33.000 New World Order, Points of Light and Service, was Alice Bailey, the leading occultist, the first half of the 20th century, whose books were first published.

02:44:41.000 Now, George Herbert Walker isn't into that.

02:44:42.000 He's only Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, a very Christian organization. 1.00

02:44:46.000 Let's go ahead.

02:44:47.000 And it takes, quickly, because we've got a lot of calls, give each person about a minute or so.

02:44:52.000 Let us now go ahead and talk to Christopher in Canada.

02:44:55.000 Go ahead, Christopher.

02:44:56.000 Hi.

02:44:57.000 Three things, Alex.

02:44:58.000 Yes.

02:44:59.000 Speaking of New World Order installing their minions into power, Northern Networks in Canada just fired three Chief Officers.

02:45:08.000 Chief Financial Officer, Chief Executive Officer, and Chief Accounting Officer.

02:45:14.000 And do you know that name?

02:45:16.000 William Owens?

02:45:18.000 Ah, yes.

02:45:18.000 Admiral William Owens is the new Chief Executive Officer of Northern Networks.

02:45:24.000 Disco North.

02:45:25.000 Well, it's like these voting companies are who's who of the CIA.

02:45:28.000 Yeah, he wrote some books, many.

02:45:32.000 He's number two in the U.S.

02:45:34.000 military.

02:45:35.000 The second thing, Bill C-250 passed in Canada.

02:45:38.000 That's the bill that adds sexual orientation to the so-called hate speech propaganda. 0.87

02:45:44.000 Yeah, so you can't criticize the rich.

02:45:48.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:45:48.000 We'll see what that turns into.

02:45:50.000 And number three, I ordered your DVD.

02:45:55.000 It came, it's great.

02:45:57.000 I ordered some more stuff.

02:45:59.000 Order of Chaos, two books.

02:46:00.000 Yes.

02:46:01.000 Plus Matrix of Evil, the video.

02:46:03.000 Well, thank you, sir.

02:46:04.000 Yeah, but you know what?

02:46:05.000 December 17, 2003, that's when it was ordered.

02:46:08.000 It never came.

02:46:09.000 Well, we have a big problem with Canada, and I've never made any bones about that.

02:46:14.000 You need to call my office, and we'll ship it back out to you if you guess, but I've gotten probably ten letters from Canada Customs saying it's Conquer Ban Terrorism, and we don't get the videos back.

02:46:24.000 We get a letter from them, and they just take them.

02:46:25.000 Thanks for the call.

02:46:26.000 Call my office, and yeah, I'd say about half the shipments to Canada make it.

02:46:30.000 I mean, England, they go right there.

02:46:32.000 Germany, France, boom, right to you.

02:46:35.000 Canada is a... Dr. Cuddy, have you had that happen with Canada?

02:46:38.000 Uh, just a few times.

02:46:40.000 Just a few times, but it has happened once or twice.

02:46:43.000 Have you gotten the letter back from the government?

02:46:45.000 No.

02:46:45.000 Well, I tell you, it's serious business.

02:46:48.000 In fact, if you've got questions, call my office at 512-291-5750.

02:46:49.000 512-291-5750.

02:46:49.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Kara in Colorado.

02:46:52.000 Kara, thanks for holding.

02:46:53.000 Go ahead.

02:46:54.000 Hi, Alex.

02:46:54.000 Hi, Dr. Cuddy.

02:46:54.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Kara in Colorado.

02:46:59.000 Kara, thanks for holding.

02:47:00.000 Go ahead.

02:47:01.000 Hi, Alex.

02:47:02.000 Hi, Dr. Cuddy.

02:47:03.000 I've got a few things, actually.

02:47:04.000 I was holding way back with Ms. Hanna.

02:47:05.000 I'm sorry.

02:47:07.000 Harris, so I just want to make a couple comments about that.

02:47:10.000 First of all, I noticed on the League of Women Voters site, they have official statements on their positions, and one of them is that they believe that we should eliminate the Electoral College, direct popular vote only.

02:47:27.000 So yeah, that's definitely what you can kind of tell that maybe that one's not quite as trustworthy, at least on the national level, as it used to be.

02:47:36.000 And again, they are blocking bills to have a record of your vote.

02:47:40.000 Dr. Cuddy?

02:47:43.000 Yeah, and also what you'll notice is when you go into voting places now, there's usually a computer, an automated computer, where you slip this card in, and you'll notice there's a camera back behind you.

02:47:56.000 And when you slip your card in, you'll notice that it tabs your vote, like number 468, and those cards go in in a stack, so afterwards, theoretically, it's possible for them to find out exactly how you voted.

02:48:09.000 All right.

02:48:10.000 Thank you.

02:48:11.000 Anything else?

02:48:12.000 Yeah, actually, just a couple more things.

02:48:14.000 I guess I was wondering if I could get a hold of Ms. 0.86

02:48:17.000 Harris.

02:48:18.000 I went to her website and wasn't able to get a hold of her.

02:48:21.000 Or rather, there wasn't anything for contact, even like an email or anything.

02:48:24.000 You might have missed it, because it's on there.

02:48:26.000 Oh, OK.

02:48:28.000 Then the other thing, Dr. Cuddy, really quick, I guess have you read much of the Alice Bailey work?

02:48:36.000 Unfortunately, yes.

02:48:37.000 Okay.

02:48:39.000 Well, I guess as far as what you've read and what I've read, I guess, are two very different things.

02:48:45.000 Because, you know, you kind of mentioned her, Ms.

02:48:50.000 Bailey, in much the way many people talk about Madame Blavatsky.

02:48:55.000 And really, they aren't the two people.

02:48:58.000 They aren't really, you know, on the same side of the fence at all.

02:49:02.000 Alice Bailey wrote a lot about some very high-level spiritual type stuff.

02:49:07.000 And Miss Blavatsky was really kind of into the more Illuminati type stuff.

02:49:12.000 Well look, when they try to get you into a cult, they get you into the white magic stuff, but at the heart of all of it, and Aleister Crowley said this, so did Anton LaVey, it's black magic my friend. 0.87

02:49:23.000 Thanks for the call.

02:49:26.000 Blavatsky, yeah, with Albert Pike and so on, but I wouldn't dismiss Alice.

02:49:31.000 Her works were first published by Lucifer Publishing, and that says quite a bit.

02:49:36.000 Thanks for the call, Kara.

02:49:38.000 Interesting points.

02:49:39.000 Tim and KC.

02:49:40.000 Tim, go ahead.

02:49:41.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:49:42.000 First time I've called you.

02:49:43.000 I've listened to you for about three years.

02:49:44.000 Welcome.

02:49:45.000 One thing, I've been sitting around here in the chat room since I got internet access back.

02:49:50.000 If you go to Yahoo chat rooms, you see a bunch of the hate people talking about.

02:49:54.000 Subhumans, uh, they don't care about their babies and everything else, so you see the old Nazi thing coming back again. 1.00

02:50:00.000 Yeah, but for the Arabs, they're subhuman, let's kill all of them. 1.00

02:50:03.000 Yeah, well, that is common, and anytime you start talking about New World Order, they start bumping you out of the room. 1.00

02:50:08.000 But the other thing I want to talk about is your new website.

02:50:11.000 Uh, yes.

02:50:11.000 What about those of us who refuse to get a credit card?

02:50:15.000 Or anything of that matter.

02:50:17.000 Uh, they've gone after PayPal and everybody else.

02:50:19.000 I've got a friend of mine that did Moopay, and the state of Missouri went after him.

02:50:23.000 Yeah.

02:50:24.000 Well, I mean, nothing.

02:50:25.000 I mean, you can buy gold and they can come get it.

02:50:27.000 I mean, they can come grab you tomorrow.

02:50:29.000 That's the point.

02:50:30.000 The key is getting the information out, sir.

02:50:32.000 I'm on a cash basis.

02:50:34.000 How would I get access to your website?

02:50:36.000 You know, we've thought about ways to do that where somebody mails us a check and then we give them a password.

02:50:42.000 I'll think about that.

02:50:43.000 We'll be back.

02:50:43.000 Stay with us.

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02:53:52.000 Ron, Dave, Frank, if we have time with Dr. Dennis Cuddy, we'll definitely have him back up sooner.

02:53:56.000 But folks, you know, the number one cause of death under 55 is sitting in your automobile.

02:54:00.000 You still do it.

02:54:02.000 Uh, you know, it's more dangerous to buy something in a store with your credit card.

02:54:05.000 It goes over the phone lines of the internet than it is to do something online that was a safe and secure server.

02:54:11.000 Uh, so all of this is a double-edged sword.

02:54:14.000 And, you know, living in fear that, you know, the government will get me if I, uh, you know, at the store buy a magazine about guns.

02:54:21.000 We outnumber them thousands to one.

02:54:24.000 We're The people.

02:54:25.000 We have the power.

02:54:27.000 It's now time to take action.

02:54:28.000 They're the bad guys.

02:54:29.000 They have something to hide.

02:54:31.000 We're exposing this.

02:54:32.000 That's what we're doing.

02:54:33.000 Dr. Cuddy, how do you get people past just the basic fear of even putting their head up above ground?

02:54:39.000 Well, what you need is one good challenge, which we haven't had yet.

02:54:44.000 The public had a poll, and I think like 75-80% were opposed to Naphthengap, and the Senators just did it anyway.

02:54:51.000 And the reason they did it is because the next election the public forgot, or said, well, you know, tough luck.

02:54:57.000 Our problem, so what needs to happen is, it only requires one single issue where the public actually gets outraged enough that they flood the nation.

02:55:07.000 Well, 80 plus percent of the public, even the liberals on the ground are against the open borders, but the Republicans and Democrats say, we don't care what you say.

02:55:14.000 That's right.

02:55:15.000 And they won't until they're kicked out of office, which is the key.

02:55:18.000 You have to kick them out.

02:55:19.000 Which is now how they're putting in the electronic CIA-run machines.

02:55:23.000 Real quick, because I want to make a few calls here, the 9-11 White Wash Commission, Bush is meeting yesterday.

02:55:29.000 Yeah, they're sitting around on their couches and come out and say, well, gee, you know, everything was very cordial.

02:55:35.000 And basically, from the accounts I have of what went on there, Bush is saying, yeah, well, we heard there might be an attack, but we thought it was coming over From overseas, end of story.

02:55:44.000 And none of these people, even Romer or Kerry or Benvenista, say, look, the attacks could have easily been prevented.

02:55:51.000 And that's what I've tried to show in my article.

02:55:53.000 Well, they don't come out and say, why did you order the FBI to stop Al-Qaeda?

02:55:57.000 Why did you warn public officials?

02:55:59.000 Who did the put options at the CIA?

02:56:01.000 Why did you order civil admins to falsify transcripts?

02:56:04.000 None of those real questions are brought up.

02:56:07.000 No, and the one Sybil Edmonds, Behrouz Sarchar, who Sybil got to testify to, he said, look, in April of 2001, I told them an attack in the U.S., my information from Al-Qaeda, and using suicide planes.

02:56:20.000 I mean, how specific do you need to be?

02:56:22.000 The government ran the rules of it.

02:56:24.000 Let's talk to Ron in New York.

02:56:27.000 Ron, go ahead.

02:56:28.000 You know, I don't have much time, Alex, but you and Dr. Cuddy both Why are the Christian media elite, I've been observing this as you know, Jay Sekulow, Pat Robertson, etc.

02:56:38.000 Why are they for the Patriot Act and why are they for keeping the military tribunals in Guantanamo?

02:56:43.000 Okay, let's get an answer to that.

02:56:44.000 Thanks, Ron.

02:56:45.000 I think the elections of 2000 were deliberately closed.

02:56:50.000 I mean, that's why they were allowed to be so close, because that caused the Pat Robertsons and others to say, oh my goodness, we can't question anything, or the pro-choice Democrats will come back into power, so we must support Bush at all costs.

02:57:04.000 All right, Dave in Colorado.

02:57:06.000 Dave, go ahead.

02:57:07.000 Hey, Alex, the globalist news has really been picking up the last couple days, huh?

02:57:12.000 Yes.

02:57:12.000 What I've got in Thursday, April 29, 2004, Denver Post.

02:57:17.000 Colorado may ride brainwave of the future.

02:57:20.000 A controversial fingerprint company considers placing a training center here.

02:57:24.000 Brain Fingerprinting Laboratories is a Seattle-based startup trying to commercialize the technology,

02:57:29.000 and it's already been used in several court cases, according to this article.

02:57:32.000 Yes, the brain scanner says you're a terrorist.

02:57:35.000 We're going to put you in the camp. 0.99

02:57:36.000 It's a black box of fraud.

02:57:38.000 We've proven a lot of factors of fraud, so they just make a more complex quack box.

02:57:42.000 Dr. Cuddy, do you agree?

02:57:44.000 Uh, yeah, along those same lines, they've already placed it, uh, Soledad Prison microchips behind the eyes of prisoners, and they can control them, make them mad or happy.

02:57:55.000 And your source on that?

02:57:57.000 Well, I'll send it to you.

02:57:59.000 I have a little booklet called Conspiracy that I wrote with the source on it.

02:58:03.000 Alright, God bless you.

02:58:04.000 We're out of time.

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