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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:25.000 Hard to believe it's already Thursday, the sixth day of May 2004.

00:00:33.000 Pretty soon we'll be halfway into 2004.

00:00:35.000 Seems like yesterday it was 1999.

00:00:38.000 We'll have wide open phones today and we have Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order, joining us in the second hour.

00:00:49.000 Along with Joan Call.

00:00:53.000 Remember Gordon Call?

00:00:54.000 The highly decorated B-17 gunner.

00:00:58.000 I mean the guy had more medals than Almost more medals than Audie Murphy.

00:01:05.000 And he was harassed, jailed, farms taken, you name it.

00:01:10.000 He told them, leave me alone.

00:01:13.000 And they didn't leave him alone, and he killed some police, some federal marshals.

00:01:21.000 And then they chased him around for a few years, and then in the process tortured him to death, cut his arms off.

00:01:28.000 And then the sheriff complained and said it was wrong, so they went ahead and greased the sheriff there in Arkansas as well.

00:01:36.000 Quite a story of a police state, and that's coming up because a lot of evidence has come out.

00:01:43.000 I mean, it's on the record that his sons didn't do anything, but they're still in federal prison.

00:01:50.000 So that's going to be coming up here on the broadcast in the second hour.

00:01:57.000 Bush didn't really apologize.

00:01:58.000 He just talked about how he didn't like the torture.

00:02:00.000 Funny, he just bragged about pressuring people and getting answers from them.

00:02:04.000 Rumsfeld has bragged about torturing people.

00:02:07.000 How good it is.

00:02:08.000 They've had their surrogates all over television and print media telling us how it's a new virtue.

00:02:14.000 And more photos have come out now.

00:02:16.000 They're kind of dribbling them out to us of even worse stuff going on. 0.83

00:02:21.000 I will remind you that posted on Infowars.com Right now are the key subsections out of the 55 page Army report where they raped people with large objects, where they raped women.

00:02:38.000 This is the Army admitting it.

00:02:41.000 Where they poured acid on people, where they beat people to death.

00:02:48.000 And these are just folks they grabbed off the streets, not real Taliban or Al-Qaeda.

00:02:52.000 Those are all in well-paid CIA luxury villas, basically, and I'm not joking when I say that.

00:02:59.000 It's all part of warping the minds of our military and police.

00:03:02.000 Images of the jail guards with people on dog leashes.

00:03:06.000 I mean, it just... And this is just the tip of the iceberg, but the CIA put out some of these fake porno pictures, and I said that last week, and uh...

00:03:18.000 Then it got picked up in the news and so they're using that as a smoke screen on TV going, it's fake, it's fake, of the neocons, it's fake, it's fake.

00:03:25.000 Well, no, the Army's own report has to admit this because they've, they've, the troops that did this have admitted to it, but they're saying, hey, we were ordered to do it.

00:03:35.000 But when you look at these photos, you know, they're down in the middle of a cell block with hundreds of cells around them, troops all over the place, officers all over the place, torturing the living daylights out of people.

00:03:45.000 This was ordered by Army Intelligence, That's why they were passing the CDs with all these photos back and forth to each other.

00:03:53.000 It's like baseball cards in Iraq right now. 0.57

00:03:57.000 And again, it's only the tip of this nightmarish, disgusting, wicked iceberg.

00:04:03.000 So Bush not apologizing for Iraq prisoners' abuse.

00:04:06.000 U.S.

00:04:07.000 examines role of CIA and employees in Iraq deaths.

00:04:11.000 I heard George Will getting everybody ready for this yesterday, trying to make excuses.

00:04:16.000 Drudge is even saying, shame of the nation.

00:04:20.000 Bush, annoyed with Rumsfeld over Iraq abuse age say, so trying to blame Rumsfeld when Rumsfeld followed orders.

00:04:26.000 U.S.

00:04:26.000 disciplines to Guantanamo Bay guards when they were just following orders.

00:04:30.000 Guardsmen probe for Iraq naked soldier photos.

00:04:33.000 Now that's just some of what's coming up.

00:04:38.000 But while we're all busy watching this, they're meeting to repass NAFTA.

00:04:44.000 Meeting in San Antonio right now.

00:04:46.000 Well, we're all busy, distracted, but with this we're going to the free trade area of the Americas.

00:04:53.000 They're getting rid of our Bill of Rights here domestically.

00:04:56.000 We'll be back.

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00:08:05.000 Big Brother.

00:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:09.000 You want answers?

00:08:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 More evidence comes out on a daily basis.

00:08:33.000 Bye.

00:08:35.000 Of the facts, the demolition charges were in Building 1, Building 2, and Building 7 on that horrible day on September 11, 2001, on that morning.

00:08:50.000 We have the owners saying they blew up Building 7.

00:08:52.000 We have the firefighters telling the reporters, get back, they were about to pull it.

00:08:58.000 Remember the 47-story building that were hit by an aircraft caught on fire that afternoon, collapsed?

00:09:03.000 The command center for the other towers where the CIA, FBI, State Police, and City Command Center in FEMA were based.

00:09:11.000 We believe the node that was controlling the entire operation and they blew up the evidence after they were done.

00:09:18.000 We know that's the place where they were controlling the loudspeakers in Tower 1 and 2, telling people to stay at their desk under threat of arrest, don't leave the building.

00:09:28.000 Whereas they would normally evacuate it if they found some white powder on the ground.

00:09:35.000 And there's been all these clips of witnesses seeing missiles and planes, you know, firing missiles, and planes with pods on the bottom, and F-16s chasing them, and seismographs, and all of this, and we've done those reports in the past.

00:09:54.000 But now there's this new report, and New York Fire Department Chief of Safety reported bombs both within the towers and on the planes on 9-11.

00:10:04.000 This is an article by Paul Joseph Watson and Dan Perez.

00:10:07.000 Paul, you will hear in this clip from NBC reporter Pat Dawson on the morning of 9-11.

00:10:11.000 In it, he discusses the comments of Albert Turi, the Chief of Safety of the New York City Fire Department.

00:10:21.000 Turi reported not only that there were numerous secondary explosions within the towers, but that there was also a bomb on one or both of the planes that crashed into the towers.

00:10:32.000 This will explain why the video footage shows both planes emitting strange flashes before they hit the towers, as well as a HOD on the underbelly of Flight 175.

00:10:42.000 We have dozens of reports from firefighters and others on the scene who witnessed bombs going off, Before and during the towers collapsed, Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center Complex, admitted in a PBS documentary that they had decided to demolish Building 7 on the day of 9-11, despite the official story of it accidentally collapsing, which has remained in place to this day.

00:11:06.000 So coming up later, we'll play this report from NBC on the morning of the event.

00:11:15.000 Just one more of many here.

00:11:18.000 Jailed man, a man jailed who left bag in airport.

00:11:23.000 This is the stuff that's happening now every day.

00:11:26.000 Haven't paid a parking ticket, you're arrested.

00:11:28.000 They think you've got $2,000 in outstanding debt from another country.

00:11:32.000 They arrest you, don't give you water for 24 hours.

00:11:35.000 Turns out you don't owe them any money.

00:11:37.000 This is the new system.

00:11:38.000 Haven't paid your taxes, won't be able to buy food at the grocery store.

00:11:41.000 The face scanning camera will not authorize you.

00:11:43.000 This is the official government plan.

00:11:46.000 A plumber who left an unattended bag containing a teddy bear, some fruit and clothes in an airport lounge was jailed yesterday for causing a full-scale security alert.

00:11:59.000 Back in 2000 when I flew into San Francisco to go up to Bohemian Grove for the infiltration, I left one of my medium-sized bags on the airport, had to drive back about 60 miles, go in and pick it up.

00:12:10.000 I guess now I'd be arrested for that.

00:12:14.000 Uh, Magistrate Senates Jose Da Silva, 25 to 10 days under public nuisance laws.

00:12:20.000 Da Silva was waiting for a flight home to Portugal last Sunday when he left the hold all in a departure lounge while he went for a cigarette at Birmingham International Airport.

00:12:33.000 The airport was closed for three hours. 0.97

00:12:35.000 That's your problem, you nuts. 0.96

00:12:37.000 By the way, in general aviation, you can just walk right onto the airport. 0.98

00:12:40.000 The borders are wide open.

00:12:40.000 It's all staged.

00:12:42.000 This is part of training you how to go through checkpoints.

00:12:44.000 They admit.

00:12:45.000 For them, trains, buses, street corners, it's all admitted.

00:12:49.000 Just a beta test in the airports.

00:12:50.000 The airport was closed for three hours and 1,000 passengers and staff had to leave as the Army Bomb Disposal Team investigated.

00:12:58.000 Three incoming flights were diverted and 15 planes grounded.

00:13:01.000 Speaking through an interpreter and in tears to Silva, who pleaded not guilty to creating a public nuisance, Told the court in Soho that he had no intention of casting such a huge security operation.

00:13:13.000 Oh, so now it's your fault!

00:13:16.000 You leave a bag, they're gonna smoke a cigarette.

00:13:18.000 Oh boy.

00:13:25.000 See, everything is supposed to create a hysteria.

00:13:29.000 That's why the Feds have been caught mailing fake letters that say anthrax to just state, city, federal buildings all over the country as an excuse to come in and do their drills to create fear.

00:13:41.000 On Monday there was a report, and I for some reason never got to it, in Florida where they run these big checkpoints stopping every car.

00:13:48.000 So the guy got a sign out saying, Checkpoint Charlie up ahead.

00:13:51.000 They arrested him and charged him with obstruction.

00:13:55.000 Uh... in uh... in in uh... what is it called?

00:13:59.000 Ybor City, a part of Tampa, the downtown party district.

00:14:03.000 A few years ago I had the local group on of college students who went down with signs protesting the face scanning cameras.

00:14:10.000 This was before 9-11.

00:14:13.000 And the police threatened to arrest him, then arrested one person over an excuse that they talked back, saying that by holding up signs exposing the face scanning cameras, they were obstructing justice by protesting the cameras.

00:14:25.000 So, you're starting to get the new system here.

00:14:28.000 You feed the homeless in Florida, they arrest you.

00:14:33.000 If you do anything, and it's happening all over the country, you get arrested.

00:14:39.000 Why is this?

00:14:40.000 Why are they doing this?

00:14:43.000 It's like in the Nevada case a month ago, where the Supreme Court said, you've got to show them your ID, even if you're not in your car, and answer their questions.

00:14:51.000 No more Fifth Amendment. 0.99

00:14:53.000 They wanted the old rancher to answer questions, the sheriff deputed for no reason, see his ID, he said, son, I fought for this country, I don't have to show you an ID or answer your questions.

00:15:01.000 They charged him with resisting arrest without violence, and he was convicted of that felony.

00:15:08.000 So, see, now you don't answer their questions.

00:15:10.000 It's evil. 0.97

00:15:15.000 Haven't paid the parking tickets, you're a terrorist.

00:15:18.000 This is really happening.

00:15:22.000 Now, on the terror front, I mean, where do I start?

00:15:27.000 Number one, the big NAFTA group of countries is meeting in San Antonio to get it expanded.

00:15:37.000 They're set to re-pass it, re-authorize it here in the next year.

00:15:42.000 We're going into the free trade area of the Americas, which is ten times bigger than NAFTA, but the average person has no idea what it is, or even what country is south of Mexico.

00:15:52.000 It's Guatemala. 0.98

00:15:54.000 And again, I'm stupid, folks, and I know all this stuff. 0.98

00:15:56.000 You talk to the general public, they think it's still a rumor that there's a draft coming, as they've reinstituted the draft boards, and they're about to selective service the women. 0.99

00:16:07.000 People are still in denial about the torture.

00:16:10.000 The denial and the general ignorance is hard to get past.

00:16:13.000 Anyways, getting back to the torture.

00:16:16.000 We're all focused on this torture, which they magically decided to make a big issue now in the media, when they've known about it for a year.

00:16:25.000 Why is this happening now?

00:16:28.000 Well, because NAFTA and GATT and all this is being expanded right now.

00:16:34.000 It's like four days after 9-11, most favored trading status permanently was given to China, not reauthorized each year, permanently.

00:16:43.000 And on top of it, they entered the World Trade Organization.

00:16:49.000 And a bunch of other scams took place.

00:16:51.000 I mean, that's what this is all about.

00:16:53.000 So while we're watching the magician and his beautiful assistant, she's diverting us while he does the sleight of hand and plunges the dagger into your waiting heart.

00:17:10.000 And that's all this is about.

00:17:12.000 We'll be humiliated, there'll be torture, there'll be abuse, there'll be all these horrible policies, and then the UN will come in and own the Iraqi people and dole out their own oppression, but at a lower level. 0.74

00:17:26.000 A more sustainable level, as the globalists like to say.

00:17:29.000 And then we'll still be there as the henchmen, but it'll be UN-controlled and make them look good to the world and empower the New World Order, and America will continue to be the muscle for it while taking all the blame.

00:17:42.000 And that's what all of this is designed for, and they've released new photos of the men with dog leashes on, the men having to, and it's clear, having sex with each other. 0.99

00:17:53.000 having to engage in oral sex. 0.99

00:17:56.000 The Army report released yesterday admits that the jail guards raped women. 0.99

00:18:02.000 These are photos they won't release.

00:18:04.000 Meanwhile the CIA put out fake photos preemptively to muddy the water so when the fake rape photos came out that would then smoke screen the real rape that the Army's own report now admits and people have confessed to.

00:18:17.000 And I don't like to mention the things that are in this report but for the record we have to. 0.74

00:18:21.000 Raping men with giant objects raping women, pouring acid on them, threatening to kill their children in front of them, the most brutal, sadistic forms of torture.

00:18:36.000 And now the neocons are going, OK, the CIA was behind it, so what? 0.99

00:18:40.000 It's good.

00:18:41.000 I heard more national talk show hosts this morning when I was in the car for 15 minutes.

00:18:50.000 I heard more of them.

00:18:51.000 Calling for this, saying this isn't bad.

00:18:56.000 Well, they do this to us.

00:18:59.000 So, it's just incredible to see this twisting going on.

00:19:05.000 And Bush didn't really apologize yesterday.

00:19:08.000 Bush not apologizing for Iraq prisoner abuse.

00:19:11.000 In an attempt to repair U.S.

00:19:12.000 image among Arabs, U.S.

00:19:13.000 President George W. Bush Vowed yesterday that any American soldier guilty of abhorrent abuse, call it torture buddy, of Iraqi prisoners will be punished.

00:19:23.000 We want to know the truth, Bush said in an interview with the U.S.-sponsored Al Hurra television network, one of two he was giving interviews to.

00:19:33.000 However, Bush did not apologize.

00:19:34.000 He said he had discussed the scandal with the Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld earlier in the day.

00:19:38.000 I said, find the truth and then tell the Iraqi people and the world the truth, said Bush.

00:19:43.000 That means, cover everything up.

00:19:45.000 Don't find the truth.

00:19:47.000 We have nothing to hide.

00:19:48.000 We believe in transparency because we are a free society.

00:19:51.000 The most secret administration ever.

00:19:53.000 That's what free societies do, he went on to say.

00:19:56.000 Bush said that when he had me kidnapped.

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00:24:02.000 I got a star on my car and one on my chest A gun on my hip and the right to arrest.

00:24:13.000 We've got Gordon Cole's wife coming on. 0.97

00:24:16.000 With some of the latest developments concerning that along with the Jack McClam police and military against the New World Order.

00:24:25.000 In the second hour, we'll go to your calls in the next segment.

00:24:27.000 I want to get into more on this torture news and the latest developments there.

00:24:31.000 I got a call yesterday, and also one of the folks that works for the network heard it yesterday.

00:24:37.000 Michael Medved, a Neocon talk show host, has attacked me before, and a caller called in and talked about Bohemian Grove, and how I got video of the ritual, which has aired on national television over 20 times, and which the Grove admits I got footage of.

00:24:53.000 Where they have the bound body, the effigy, and they burn it, and they have the owl, and Nevages said, oh, that's a place where rich guys party.

00:24:59.000 I wouldn't want to go, though.

00:25:00.000 I'd like to go to a Bilderberg group meeting, though, and, you know, I'm sure this video isn't accurate, isn't legitimate, isn't real. 0.91

00:25:08.000 I mean, that's ridiculous.

00:25:09.000 We all know about Skull and Bones. 0.79

00:25:11.000 That's been on national television.

00:25:12.000 Fox News, ABC.

00:25:14.000 With the throat-slitting, hailing Satan, all this business.

00:25:17.000 That's what they do is, you know, 21-year-olds, 22-year-olds at Yale.

00:25:21.000 Then as old men, they go to the Grove. 0.79

00:25:23.000 I've gotten footage of it.

00:25:23.000 I've been there.

00:25:25.000 And it's admitted in major newspapers.

00:25:27.000 It's been in the Sacramento Bee.

00:25:28.000 It's been in the San Francisco Chronicle.

00:25:30.000 It's been in the Santa Rosa Democrat.

00:25:34.000 It's been in all the newspapers.

00:25:36.000 And Medved knows all that.

00:25:39.000 He said, oh, that idol in there, that's a Roman god, not Moloch.

00:25:44.000 So, oh, you know a little bit about it.

00:25:46.000 I mean, certainly gods that were in Canaan and gods that were in Babylon followed through to Rome.

00:25:52.000 So you've got quite a knowledge of stuff, Medved, to be pooh-poohing it and saying that it isn't true.

00:25:58.000 I mean, and you open yourself up, too, saying people aren't legitimate and that they're putting out frauds.

00:26:04.000 You know, if I wanted to waste my time, I could probably end up owning your house, buddy. 0.98

00:26:09.000 You need to watch shooting your mouth off. 0.98

00:26:11.000 But that's okay. 1.00

00:26:12.000 Go ahead and shoot your mouth off. 1.00

00:26:13.000 It's the First Amendment. 1.00

00:26:13.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:26:15.000 But very, very interesting to have this going on.

00:26:22.000 So it just shows that they're having trouble dealing with the truth.

00:26:26.000 And it's just the reality of it.

00:26:27.000 If you want to know the truth about Bohemian Grove, You can simply go to InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and look at photos of it, watch video clips of it, or order the two-hour, five-minute film itself.

00:26:43.000 Got hundreds of news articles about it on the website.

00:26:46.000 You name it.

00:26:46.000 So, InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:26:51.000 On PrisonPlanet.com we have Richard Nixon saying it's the most horrible homosexual thing he's ever seen, but that he had to go to it with the world leaders.

00:27:01.000 We've got photos of Bush and his father at the Grove from their own publication.

00:27:06.000 We have the San Francisco Chronicle saying Arnold was ordered to run for governor by the Bohemian Grove a month before he announced.

00:27:13.000 We have all that there for you.

00:27:18.000 Mainstream articles admitting the rituals.

00:27:21.000 Of course, we have video of it, but you don't think I'm legitimate.

00:27:25.000 You think the tape's fake, do you?

00:27:27.000 Kind of like if I got, you know, video of that Concorde blowing up over France.

00:27:33.000 Remember that?

00:27:36.000 Let's say you shot video of a public event and they said, oh, it doesn't exist, it's not real.

00:27:40.000 Or maybe you shot video of the Super Bowl.

00:27:42.000 Here's the Super Bowl.

00:27:43.000 Here's Super Bowl XXVII.

00:27:45.000 Oh, no, that's not the Super Bowl.

00:27:46.000 It didn't happen.

00:27:47.000 It's not true.

00:27:49.000 The sun didn't come up this morning.

00:27:51.000 Let's just deny that.

00:27:54.000 Medved and Limbaugh and others, until just a few years ago, would deny the Bilderberg Group even existed, the CFR even existed.

00:28:01.000 Even though an imprint of the CFR Publishing House published Limbaugh's books, it just doesn't exist when they're on C-SPAN calling for New World Order and State of the Unions on national TV. 0.90

00:28:14.000 It just doesn't exist and we're all crazy!

00:28:17.000 It's like when Brian Lamb on C-SPAN asked that professor, what's Alex Jones' wildest, craziest conspiracy theory?

00:28:23.000 Oh, that there is a new world order planned for world government.

00:28:26.000 Oh yes, it's just been in hundreds of magazines and newspapers and on television hundreds of times and our Supreme Court says they're following the UN orders and they admit our parks have been taken over by the UN and we've signed on to UNESCO, running our public schools and It just doesn't exist.

00:28:42.000 I mean, you'll see it on the nightly news, New World Order this, New World Order that, but it doesn't exist.

00:28:47.000 I'm crazy, folks. 0.88

00:28:50.000 You know, I'm just nuts. 0.90

00:28:52.000 Look, I don't even exist.

00:28:53.000 You know, Alexander Emmerich Jones, I guess, isn't even a real person.

00:28:58.000 You're not real.

00:28:59.000 You know, if O'Brien tells you so in 1984, it must be true.

00:29:02.000 nineteen eighty four uh... it must be true

00:29:07.000 well my goodness uh...

00:29:11.000 uh... just his total denial It's like people in denial about the draft.

00:29:15.000 People in denial about the open borders.

00:29:17.000 People in denial about the torture.

00:29:19.000 It's total and complete denial.

00:29:22.000 I mean, adults are in denial about the draft.

00:29:24.000 They're in denial about everything.

00:29:25.000 These adults who are degreed, make a $200,000 a year that I know, can't find Iraq on a map, people. 1.00

00:29:35.000 They are willful idiots. 1.00

00:29:38.000 Willfully ignorant. 1.00

00:29:39.000 They have a spirit of delusional weakness. 1.00

00:29:43.000 We'll come back, take calls, get into all the news.

00:29:46.000 Big guests coming up as well.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:34:27.000 Coming up after some calls before this hour ends, NBC New York Fire Department Chief of Safety reported bombs both within the towers and on the planes on 9-11.

00:34:37.000 Just a new little tidbit.

00:34:39.000 I was going to say giblet, then I wanted to say tidbit and kind of combine to tidbit.

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00:34:55.000 I want to get into this torture news too.

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00:38:16.000 Okay, let's go ahead and go to your calls, my friends.

00:38:22.000 Yes, Alex, I spoke to you about giving police different things before.

00:38:24.000 Yes.

00:38:24.000 on the website as well. Let's go ahead and talk to Kevin in New York, our first caller,

00:38:30.000 38 minutes into the transmission. Go ahead.

00:38:32.000 Yes, Alex, I spoke to you about giving police different names before.

00:38:37.000 Yes.

00:38:38.000 In early about February, I had a vampire slayer by Jack McLintock.

00:38:44.000 Vampire Killer 2000, right, a decade ago, about what would happen in America, and it's all come true. 0.88

00:38:52.000 Yeah, I wrote, I put your website on it in the Power Hour, I wrote that on it.

00:39:00.000 I took it to a local state police barracks not far from me.

00:39:04.000 And one trooper I'd seen before, he says, was looking at it and another one comes charging in from the back room.

00:39:12.000 The other trooper says, well, he gives us stuff from now times.

00:39:15.000 I gave him some stuff on the vaccine and stuff.

00:39:18.000 So I was walking out on the, out of, out of the parking lot and towards the road highway.

00:39:24.000 It's a double highway.

00:39:25.000 And the troop car, two of them come out.

00:39:29.000 They passed me once.

00:39:30.000 Then he comes around and circles around again.

00:39:33.000 They took my picture.

00:39:35.000 That sort of thing. 1.00

00:39:36.000 Well, that's, you know, that's the mental illness of these people. 0.98

00:39:39.000 The FBI training manuals, the ADL training manuals say, quote, founding fathers, homeschoolers, gun owners were all evil terrorists. 0.89

00:39:48.000 They tell them to arrest people that even talk about the Constitution.

00:39:51.000 That's in the FBI training manual.

00:39:53.000 Those that make frequent references to the U.S.

00:39:55.000 Constitution.

00:39:57.000 And the good news is when they finally read it and see that it's ten years old, saying that police would do that ten years later, they go, wow, this is very accurate.

00:40:05.000 Meanwhile, the borders are wide open, and all this is happening, and Bush has all these terrorist connections, but somehow you're bad.

00:40:13.000 DPS Intelligence, State Police Intelligence, runs out and takes your photo, and you can go to a land rights rally, a Second Amendment rally, anything, and they'll be there taking photos.

00:40:24.000 We've got to watch the people that care about freedom.

00:40:28.000 FEMA says we're bad because we care about freedom.

00:40:30.000 They actually say that, and we think that we run the government.

00:40:34.000 They even say that, and that's all in Road to Tyranny, the documents, the video of them saying it, the training manuals, the news articles about it. 0.91

00:40:42.000 They're teaching, there was an article out of West Virginia that's in the film, where the curriculum teaches them that all Christians are terrorists.

00:40:50.000 That's taught at the law enforcement schools.

00:40:53.000 Just, you know, they swear an oath to the Constitution and then they teach them that it's a... I'm not exaggerating, folks.

00:40:58.000 This sounds like a Twilight Zone episode, but it's true.

00:41:01.000 and uh... so uh... they run out the other police officers have to use it as i give me info they act strange run out take your photo i would have gone back in and said hey what's going on i'm just trying to give you information now ninety nine plus percent of police and firefighters refused the vaccines when they tried to force them on two years ago a lot of them thanked us for that i mean all we're trying to do is help them uh...

00:41:28.000 I mean, what did you do when they took this photo of you?

00:41:30.000 Well, I was just walking.

00:41:31.000 I just continued off, uh, on the road, up the road.

00:41:34.000 But the local village police, after that, they showed, uh, watched me more carefully when they'd seen me and stuff.

00:41:42.000 You've got to watch somebody that knows how many continents there are, knows the Bill of Rights, knows who the Founding Fathers were, knows a few things.

00:41:53.000 You're weird.

00:41:54.000 You talk about freedom.

00:41:56.000 You try to educate us with Jack McClam, a veteran, the most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix history, educating people.

00:42:05.000 I mean, this is horrible.

00:42:06.000 You're talking to your lords?

00:42:10.000 You actually try to bring them in?

00:42:11.000 They've been warned about people like you!

00:42:13.000 Why, the government came and told them, watch these people!

00:42:16.000 Don't talk to them!

00:42:20.000 Yeah, when I left Syracuse, New York, there was about 3,700 troopers in the state.

00:42:25.000 Now there's about, last fall, I asked one, he said, there's up to 5,000.

00:42:31.000 Well, we've got to pack those private prisons. 0.78

00:42:34.000 Thanks for the call.

00:42:35.000 Keep it up, Kevin.

00:42:36.000 You know what the answer is?

00:42:39.000 For everybody in New York to mail, to fax, to hand-deliver Vampire Killer 2000 books.

00:42:48.000 It's for free on the internet.

00:42:49.000 I don't know, 80-something pages.

00:42:52.000 And to, you know, give them my videos.

00:42:53.000 So they're knee-deep in them.

00:42:55.000 I'll never forget, I got invited up to the SWAT team office by Captain Beck before he got canned for being a patriot.

00:43:04.000 Back then they didn't kill innocent people, by the way, when they had a real guy in there.

00:43:09.000 They've got decent folks there now, actually, I've got to say.

00:43:11.000 Some of them have told me they're fans.

00:43:13.000 I'm not going to tell if it's genuine, but the Travis County SWAT team, who literally wears a Cobra Commander outfit, though.

00:43:19.000 The black helmet, the black mask, the black uniform, the Cobra. 0.74

00:43:23.000 I mean, it's just ridiculous. 0.86

00:43:25.000 They could walk into a G.I. 0.73

00:43:26.000 Joe movie any time.

00:43:27.000 They're in uniform, even having black APCs.

00:43:30.000 It's funny.

00:43:31.000 They conditioned them when they were children 25 years ago with that TV show, and now they're wearing the uniform.

00:43:36.000 I can hear him scream Cobra.

00:43:38.000 But I was up in the office and there was Oklahoma City cover up, Police State 2000 on the shelf.

00:43:43.000 And they all watch it.

00:43:44.000 They all know.

00:43:46.000 It's so important to reach out to them.

00:43:49.000 It's such an integral part.

00:43:51.000 Joan in Florida.

00:43:52.000 Joan, good to hear from you.

00:43:53.000 Hi, Alex.

00:43:54.000 Well, maybe what I have is trivial, but I don't think so.

00:43:57.000 It just shows how sick things have gotten.

00:44:00.000 I don't know if you remember a few months ago, out in Oregon, A man was buying a Pinch of Penny magazine and he was at the raised market.

00:44:13.000 We had him on the show.

00:44:15.000 Well, guess what?

00:44:17.000 I went into News for Views today and somebody on Saturday night went over to that market now where they put the chicken back You know, maybe your listeners, I don't know if they know, but this was all over a good amount.

00:44:31.000 Yeah, let me just give them a quick run down.

00:44:33.000 Ma'am, let me give them a nutshell.

00:44:36.000 The same week when they were arresting people for signs in their yards saying our court system's a joke and arresting people for handing out Ron Paul videos and doing all this, a man with no criminal record saw a homeless chicken and said, can I take it home?

00:44:51.000 They said, sure.

00:44:52.000 He bought it some more chickens and they said, give it back.

00:44:55.000 A SWAT team hit him hard, beat him up.

00:44:58.000 took the chicken, charged him with a bunch of crimes, and that's where it had basically been left off.

00:45:06.000 Now what's happened?

00:45:07.000 Well, Saturday night between 9.30 and 6 o'clock in the morning, somebody went over to Rae's Market and strangled the hen, Speckles, her name is Speckles, and killed her.

00:45:18.000 So, and the gentleman, Nick Thumbose, is still Waiting and going to be brought up on charges for rescuing the chicken from the cold out at the grocery store.

00:45:33.000 And of course they came... Now this is an admitted homeless chicken that was walking around.

00:45:38.000 Don't worry, the SWAT teams are now, they admit that Ray, the gentleman didn't touch the police, it was in the newspaper, but he did, when all these cars and lights were in his yard, come out in his underwear and say, who are you?

00:45:50.000 What's going on?

00:45:51.000 And they charged him with verbal assault.

00:45:54.000 That was assaulting, talking to them.

00:45:58.000 Ma'am, I'm not joking.

00:45:59.000 No, I know.

00:46:00.000 It's like the guy who was feeding the homeless refused to talk in Miami, and they charged him with resisting without force for refusing to talk.

00:46:12.000 Well, they had an incident here in Tampa a few weeks ago, where people were feeding the homeless on the weekend.

00:46:18.000 Yeah, I interviewed them, that was the young one.

00:46:19.000 Yeah, and they didn't have a permit.

00:46:22.000 You know, if this reporter, John Taff, He writes for News for Views and also the Oregon paper.

00:46:31.000 But I just see in the left-hand column under today's article over the chicken that it has another story here which I didn't look up yet.

00:46:39.000 Retired policemen sergeant faces 35 years for not producing a driver's license.

00:46:46.000 You know people, let me tell you, this world is sick and crazy.

00:46:52.000 I've got to get that article.

00:46:53.000 Somebody email it to me at tips and info wars dot com.

00:46:56.000 This is the new system.

00:46:58.000 People get years in jail for not answering questions on their own property.

00:47:01.000 That's assaulting the officer, the Supreme Court has said.

00:47:04.000 I'm not joking.

00:47:05.000 Thanks for the call, John.

00:47:07.000 Oh yeah, so Speckles is dead.

00:47:09.000 Okay.

00:47:10.000 Too bad.

00:47:12.000 That's what happens to homeless chickens. 1.00

00:47:14.000 But don't worry, the SWAT team is facing five years in jail for asking who they were.

00:47:19.000 This is the New America, folks.

00:47:21.000 Steve in Ohio.

00:47:22.000 Steve, go ahead.

00:47:23.000 How are you doing, Alex?

00:47:25.000 Fine, sir.

00:47:26.000 I want to say that, Alex, I've called here before and I would say that I agree with most of what you say, but I'm having a bit of a problem with you using this term, the good cop versus the bad cop, as it relates to Iraq.

00:47:38.000 And there's a very prominent political guy here in the Cleveland area that I talk to.

00:47:42.000 He's kind of a... and he's telling me and That basically what the Russians are waiting for us to do is use up all our resources to fight this war in Iraq that we're losing and then China and Russia are going to descend on that Middle East.

00:47:59.000 It's not going to be just a good cop versus bad cop, but there is a bona fide A shortage of oil.

00:48:05.000 And another thing is that we talked about the oil depletion.

00:48:08.000 There is a bona fide... Just because you say it is, just like global warming.

00:48:13.000 What's that?

00:48:14.000 Just because you say it is, it is.

00:48:15.000 No, I'm not saying because I say it is, Norm.

00:48:18.000 I'm sorry, I call you Norm.

00:48:20.000 Alex, but the thing about it is that there's a lot of prominent geologists that are studying this subject.

00:48:27.000 Who work for the oil companies who want to jack up prices.

00:48:29.000 Well, I mean, you're saying that the reason why gas is going up to close to three bucks a gallon soon is because it's controlled.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, the Arabs said, we're going to jack up prices two years ago. 0.99

00:48:41.000 Okay.

00:48:42.000 And they jacked up prices, and that's why, but see, They put it out to the disinfo channels that there's no oil left.

00:48:48.000 That's why you're going to pay a national average of $2.00, $3.50 in areas of California, and you're going to accept it because, oh, there's none left.

00:48:56.000 Just like I read five years ago the U.N.

00:48:57.000 White Papers where they said we're going to tell them there's no oil, we're going to tell them there's no water, and we're going to jack up all the prices.

00:49:03.000 And you're going to love it and accept it and think there's no oil.

00:49:06.000 Okay, I personally won't love it and accept it.

00:49:09.000 Let me just add something to this.

00:49:11.000 The BBC reported that they just found record oil supplies that were in Washington oil.

00:49:16.000 They found reserves bigger than what's in Saudi Arabia and Russia.

00:49:19.000 Bigger than what's in Saudi Arabia and Iraq combined in Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, and five other stands.

00:49:26.000 They've got massive oil all off the coast of Texas they won't even let us have for environmental reasons.

00:49:31.000 There's enough oil to run the entire U.S. 0.99

00:49:33.000 for a hundred years in one field in Alaska.

00:49:37.000 There's oil all over Central and South America.

00:49:39.000 We are awash in oil, but just like with diamonds, where they have admitted warehouses full of giant chests of diamonds because they have a monopoly, you'll pay $8,000 for a two-carat diamond.

00:49:51.000 Okay, so if the whole thing with oil, then you're positive there's no peak oil?

00:49:56.000 Sir, I've read hundreds of reports.

00:49:57.000 I have family in the oil business, you know, chief engineers in refineries, family who are geologists.

00:50:06.000 I know, I mean, look, my family in East Texas has gas wells.

00:50:12.000 Let me tell you, and again, so if I wanted to be evil, I'd sit here and tell you there's no oil, because down the road someday, which I don't want to happen when a family dies, I'll have a lot of money.

00:50:22.000 I don't right now, but I will.

00:50:24.000 And I'll make lots of money off people's ignorance and disinfo, but I don't want to.

00:50:29.000 Right, but one other thing I'll say, aside from the oil... Look, sir, I'm in Texas.

00:50:34.000 My family's in the oil business on both sides.

00:50:37.000 Okay.

00:50:37.000 Just please, let me tell you, this is a scam.

00:50:39.000 They're all laughing about it.

00:50:41.000 I'm sorry.

00:50:41.000 Go ahead and finish up.

00:50:43.000 Oh, one other thing I was going to say.

00:50:45.000 I think that militarily we're not going to win if we're fighting a different beast.

00:50:50.000 It really is a loose situation.

00:50:51.000 Well let me answer what you said about the Russians are going to get us when we get back. 0.99

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00:53:55.000 You know, I'll give folks a geopolitical rundown on what's really going on in Iraq in the big

00:54:11.000 picture from the facts, not the government disinfo.

00:54:13.000 you But first, I promise to air this NBC New York Fire Chief says safety reported bombs both within the towers and on the planes.

00:54:23.000 This is from national NBC television that morning.

00:54:26.000 Go ahead and hit it.

00:54:29.000 Here it is, folks, from NBC.

00:54:31.000 Pat Dawson is close to the scene of that attack.

00:54:39.000 Yes, I can, Matt.

00:54:40.000 If there is a war against terrorism that started rather ongoing right now, it started here at about quarter to nine this morning.

00:54:48.000 As you described, a big hole in the skyline at the southern end, the southern tip of Manhattan Island, where the two World Trade Center towers have stood for the last 25 years.

00:54:58.000 110 stories high.

00:54:59.000 They are no longer there.

00:55:01.000 Just moments ago, I spoke to the Chief of Safety for the New York City Fire Department, who was obviously one of the first people here on the scene after those two planes were crashed into the side, we assume, of the World Trade Center towers, which used to be behind me over there.

00:55:19.000 Chief Albert Turrey told me that he was here just literally 10 or 15 minutes after the events That took place this morning.

00:55:27.000 That is the first crash.

00:55:28.000 He said that at one point he had roughly 10 alarms.

00:55:31.000 That would equate to roughly 200 to 225 New York City firefighters who were in the building.

00:55:38.000 This was after the crash, trying to rescue civilians who were in there.

00:55:42.000 Now, earlier this morning on the Today Show, we spoke to the director of the World Trade Center.

00:55:46.000 He said that at that hour of the morning, you could have upwards of 10,000 people in each of those towers.

00:55:52.000 That would be 20,000 people total in each tower.

00:55:56.000 The Chief Safety of the Fire Department of New York City told me that shortly after 9 o'clock, he had roughly 10 alarms, roughly 200 men in the building, trying to effect rescues of some of those civilians who were in there.

00:56:10.000 And that basically, he received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off.

00:56:17.000 He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said that there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first Hit here, but the first crash that took place.

00:56:28.000 He said there was a another explosion that took place In one of the towers here, so obviously he according to his theory He thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building one of the secondary devices He thinks that took place after the initial impact was he thinks may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers the second device he thinks is He speculates was probably planted in the building.

00:56:58.000 So that's what we have been told by Albert Turi who is the chief of safety for the New York City Fire Department.

00:57:04.000 He told me that just moments ago.

00:57:07.000 Now we are continuing to hear explosions.

00:57:10.000 We are continuing to hear explosions here downtown and what we've been told by some of the fire officials is that there are some gas lines that occasionally are exploding down there because obviously as you can imagine there are a lot of open gas lines down in the southern part of Manhattan where the World Trade Center towers used to be.

00:57:28.000 As far as the situation right here, basically what we have are hundreds of New York City firefighters and other New York City rescue units who are massed here There is a courting down just down there.

00:57:41.000 We are not sure, to be honest, if some rescue workers have tried to go beyond that point as yet.

00:57:47.000 When we spoke to the head of the Port Authority Police, that would be the organization that is in charge of the World Trade Center building itself.

00:57:56.000 Uh, the Port Authority Police Chief told us that they were at that point about, I'd say 40 minutes ago, about to make a decision on whether or not it was safe to send emergency workers back in there.

00:58:08.000 But the bottom line is that according to the Chief of Safety of the New York City Fire Department, he says that he probably lost A great many men in those secondary explosions and he said that there were literally hundreds if not thousands of people in those two towers when the explosions took place.

00:58:24.000 He said everything above the 60th floor was extremely difficult to get to as you can imagine.

00:58:31.000 That's awesome, thanks very much.

00:58:33.000 Alright, so there they are, the firefighters and others, the head of the Port Authority.

00:58:37.000 Oh, bombs in the buildings, then later he adds the gas line part.

00:58:41.000 Interesting tidbit for you, of course the owner says they blew up Building 7.

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01:00:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:15.000 Thank you, thank you very much for joining us on this live Thursday edition Now into our number two, we have Joan Cald, wife of Gordon Cald, joining us.

01:00:28.000 A new book out about what really happened, the Feds and their criminal activities.

01:00:32.000 We also have Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order coming up.

01:00:36.000 We'll get into the torture as well and how that ties into how they killed Mr. Cald.

01:00:42.000 We'll get into the latest police state developments.

01:00:44.000 I had a last caller we took in the last hour.

01:00:49.000 Is believing all this about peak oil and these geologists and these government-sponsored people saying that, you know, there's no oil, that's why you're paying all this.

01:00:57.000 No.

01:00:58.000 OPEC said they were going to massively reduce oil output, and then the oil companies make most of that money.

01:01:04.000 The Arabs get about 20%. 0.98

01:01:05.000 This is all under orders.

01:01:07.000 And they're gouging you, training you to pay a lot more right now.

01:01:10.000 Also, the dollar isn't worth as much.

01:01:12.000 It's been devalued by over 40%, and so it takes more dollars to buy fuel, petrol, gas, whatever you want to call it.

01:01:22.000 And the UN and others have talked about this artificial scarcity, saying there's no fresh water, saying there's no oil, saying there's no diamonds.

01:01:29.000 Or if they want to suppress the price, they'll say that there's too much gold, whereas in truth, there's not a lot of gold or silver.

01:01:36.000 So this is the type of thing they do, and it's just manipulation.

01:01:40.000 They have found hundreds and hundreds of years of oil all over the place, plus they have all these new technologies coming online.

01:01:47.000 They're just getting ready to rape the living daylights out of you, getting you addicted to the car, and forcing you to do this.

01:01:52.000 The caller also talks about some of the people that say, you know, Russia's all involved in this, and China is, and they're secretly going to attack us any minute.

01:02:00.000 Well, then our government was part of the plan, putting our troops in Iraq and doing all this.

01:02:05.000 No, the U.N., they said, Romano Prati and others said they met with Bush even before we went into Iraq and the plan was after a year or a year and a half to put the U.N.

01:02:15.000 in over the country and I said we'd carry out atrocities and then be demonized for it and so they'll use America as the muscle and the U.N.

01:02:21.000 will come in and take control of it.

01:02:23.000 And that's what's happening.

01:02:23.000 I mean, this is their own admissions.

01:02:25.000 It's not like it's a secret.

01:02:27.000 Uh, Wyatt in Maryland.

01:02:28.000 Wyatt, go ahead.

01:02:29.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:02:31.000 How you doing?

01:02:31.000 Good, good.

01:02:32.000 Uh, I haven't read the paper today into the Baltimore Sun, but there was, uh, they supposedly found 12 bombs, supposedly from a, uh, a decommissioned ship that was, uh, pulled apart.

01:02:44.000 Now, somehow the bombs were never, uh, trapped.

01:02:48.000 Uh, and this is the story that they're leading with.

01:02:49.000 However, My nephew, I talked to him last night on the phone.

01:02:53.000 They mean an old weapons carrying ship that had some bombs for aircraft?

01:02:59.000 Yeah, that's what they're saying.

01:03:01.000 But my nephew got a call from a Baltimore City policeman who was down there when they sealed everything off and he said that there were a lot of oil tanks down there.

01:03:10.000 There's a lot of oil, you know, the storage tanks all around through there.

01:03:14.000 He said that there were five I don't believe this, but he said five three thousand pound bombs they found next to the oil.

01:03:21.000 So I don't know whether that's true or not.

01:03:23.000 Well, the government's doing lots of fake terror drills, and most cities are actually on red alert since 9-11.

01:03:29.000 This is how they get the police state going covertly.

01:03:32.000 Oh man, you're part of a secret operation, police.

01:03:35.000 You're under federal control now.

01:03:37.000 Don't tell anybody.

01:03:38.000 Oh yeah, they had the entire area sealed off, blackout on the news, they had So who knows, it might have been a real drill, might have been a fake, might have been real, I don't know.

01:03:46.000 It's hard to tell anymore.

01:03:48.000 Listen, Alex, I'm listening to you on 94.75 and you've gone at it about five times for three minutes at a time.

01:03:55.000 I don't know whether you experienced any difficulty or not on shortwave.

01:03:59.000 Another thing I just want to ask you, on your new website, Prison Planet TV, is there, just a thought, I don't know whether, tell me if this can happen or not, You've got people all over this nation who listen to you who have digital cameras and digital, digital video cameras and digital still cameras.

01:04:20.000 Yes.

01:04:20.000 Would there be any way that you could recruit people to ask them to be reporters and actually be able to feed into your system?

01:04:29.000 Well, they could feed into another one of our sites and then have it transferred there.

01:04:32.000 It's a secure server and there's only two people that can get into it.

01:04:35.000 Oh, okay.

01:04:36.000 Just a curiosity question.

01:04:38.000 No, it's a good idea, but if people send us news articles and photos, and if they're good, we'll post them.

01:04:43.000 We do it all the time.

01:04:44.000 They turn into major stories.

01:04:45.000 Millions of people see them.

01:04:46.000 That's great, Alex.

01:04:47.000 Good to hear from you, Wyatt.

01:04:48.000 We'll be back.

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01:08:08.000 a lot of our listeners aren't even aware of the gordon call case who he was what

01:08:15.000 happened to him We'll go over that in a nutshell.

01:08:18.000 We've got his widow on.

01:08:21.000 Who's son and others are still in prison for doing absolutely nothing.

01:08:24.000 And I'd like to keep Jack McClam and Mrs. Call on about 30 minutes into the next hour.

01:08:32.000 Do about an hour and 20 minutes.

01:08:35.000 So we have time to cover all this and also take calls.

01:08:38.000 But before we do that, I want to bring up Jack McClam first.

01:08:41.000 So Jones, stay right there and God bless you for joining us in your fight for your family.

01:08:47.000 But Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order, for 23 years, has been detailing what was going to happen with the New World Order.

01:08:56.000 Unfortunately, it's all come true, exactly as Jack said it would.

01:09:01.000 I wanted to bring Jack up and get his take on a few of the news items today.

01:09:05.000 Jack, God bless you, my brother.

01:09:06.000 Good to have you on with us.

01:09:11.000 Jack, are you there?

01:09:12.000 I'm here.

01:09:13.000 It's good to be back with you again, brother.

01:09:15.000 You bet.

01:09:16.000 Just in a nutshell, tell us a little bit about yourself, and then I want to get into a few of the news items, and then we'll go to Mrs. Call.

01:09:23.000 Well, I'm retired now, medically retired for injuries in the line of duty from my profession as a police officer in Phoenix, Arizona.

01:09:34.000 I arrested a drug smuggler out of Mexico, an illegal alien, and we got in a big fight.

01:09:40.000 I went to the hospital and he went to prison.

01:09:42.000 Of course, I'm still disabled and he's probably been out a long time committing his acts of bringing drugs in and so forth.

01:09:50.000 But I'm still deeply involved, Alex, with our police and soldiers out there.

01:09:56.000 I'm a Vietnam veteran of the Vietnam War.

01:10:04.000 So, for 23 years, we've had a police and military publication where we've focused on constitutional issues, where America's going, and the part played by our police and soldiers in that direction.

01:10:19.000 Jack, we just had a caller last hour in New York State who brought a copy of your online book, Vampire Killer 2000.

01:10:28.000 The tens of millions of copies are out there.

01:10:31.000 Literally tens of millions, and he brought it into them nicely.

01:10:34.000 The state police officer, he knows.

01:10:35.000 He's given them videos of the things.

01:10:36.000 He thanked them.

01:10:37.000 Two guys ran out of the back, said, what are you doing?

01:10:39.000 He said, oh, he always gives me information about vaccines, you name it.

01:10:42.000 Then they followed him into the parking lot and photographed him.

01:10:46.000 This is part of the brainwashing they get, isn't it?

01:10:48.000 It certainly is, and you received, as our police association did, that FBI publication for eyes only, for police officers only, that listed patriots and those that Love God and love the Constitution.

01:11:02.000 It actually said that it would make frequent references to the U.S.

01:11:05.000 Constitution.

01:11:06.000 As domestic terrorists today, that's right.

01:11:08.000 And that's an actual FBI publication that we have.

01:11:12.000 It was only supposed to go out to police officers, but it got out, of course, because we do have some very fine police officers out there.

01:11:20.000 And that's even in the Washington Times.

01:11:22.000 They called the numbers off of it and they admitted, yes, this is our internal flyer.

01:11:27.000 Well, brother, today it's the sad indictment against our system and the people of the American people who have allowed this to happen that we have watched for several decades as the individuals in law enforcement and the military that prove themselves at the lower level that they would follow any order given to them, immoral, unlawful, Being promoted up through the ranks to the top levels just like the White House has the top criminals in the world today.

01:12:01.000 And they put convicted criminals, torturers, bank robbers like Chalibi over Iraq and that's the question I wanted to get from you and then we'll go right to Mrs. Call and get into that story.

01:12:14.000 We know a year ago they were torturing people.

01:12:17.000 You got documents a year ago from your people in the military that this was going on.

01:12:21.000 There were photos of this a year ago.

01:12:22.000 Now they're bringing it out because they're about to have the UN hand over.

01:12:26.000 They want to demonize America first. 0.93

01:12:27.000 We know Army Intelligence ordered them to do this.

01:12:30.000 Rumsfeld bragged about torture.

01:12:33.000 Bizarre, pervert stuff. 0.94

01:12:34.000 They admit in the Army report out yesterday, this isn't speculation, that jail guards raped women, sodomized men with giant objects, poured acid on people, threatened people's children. 0.89

01:12:49.000 The worst types of Joseph Mingala torture, and they're just calling it mistreatment in the news.

01:12:55.000 What do you think about the torture situation?

01:12:58.000 Well, brother, I just did my show this morning and we pulled out examples of how for 15 years that we know of in our police and military association here, those exact same crimes have been going on in the prisons of America.

01:13:13.000 Right here in the USA, murders, suicides.

01:13:16.000 Prisoners are raped and that's by the administration.

01:13:23.000 Right here in Austin they shut down the Wackenhut prison two years ago. 0.95

01:13:26.000 They lost their contract because the jail guards were raping half the women and videotaping it.

01:13:33.000 I mean that's just where I live, Jack.

01:13:35.000 Yes, well this is the problem.

01:13:35.000 Go ahead.

01:13:37.000 Now we have this outcry because it's happened out of the country to the Arabs.

01:13:43.000 It's too bad we haven't had the outcry in our prison systems in the United States that these people that are promoted up to the top of these institutions Are the most evil people, the ones that believe in the unjustifies-the-means political philosophy, and that is, do anything and everything to accomplish the goal, are now in the leadership of all of our institutions.

01:14:05.000 Yeah, I mean we've had Rumsfeld on the news saying, torture them, it's good.

01:14:09.000 It's been in the Washington Post, CIA section chiefs bragging that they torture them and quote, threaten their children.

01:14:15.000 That was two years ago, and now we're You're supposed to think it's just, you know, 6, 12, 15, now 20 people.

01:14:22.000 These, the new photos show them standing.

01:14:25.000 What do you call the well of the prison?

01:14:26.000 The hallway in the middle of all the cells?

01:14:30.000 Oh, it goes by different names, exercise room, all different types.

01:14:36.000 Well, they're out in the public area openly torturing people, and they're now saying, hey, we were ordered to do this.

01:14:42.000 And I believe it, because people aren't going to do that right out in the middle of, you know, in front of hundreds of people and in front of the other troops.

01:14:49.000 No, and of course, these officers, or these soldiers there, have been given orders to do this.

01:14:55.000 But the sad thing is, is because we talked this morning on my show about the government school systems teaching situational ethics to these young people that became soldiers and cops, that everything is okay, stealing, killing, anything, as long as you have decided these moral standards for yourself.

01:15:16.000 And so now they've been promoted up to where they're soldiers and police officers and if they're especially evil and especially prone to shoot their mother for a nickel and take bets on which way she'd fall is what we say here.

01:15:29.000 In other words, they'll do anything.

01:15:31.000 They get promoted up through the ranks. 0.98

01:15:32.000 Now, the sergeant that was interviewed on CNN one night Well, you know, we hooked electrical things up to his testicles, sodomized these people, everything. 0.84

01:15:44.000 But, you know, it's because we never read the Geneva Convention and we never had training. 0.87

01:15:49.000 You know, we just never had training.

01:15:51.000 We didn't know these things were wrong.

01:15:53.000 Our school systems have been teaching Alex that nothing is wrong as long as you use situational ethics.

01:15:59.000 Well, why not?

01:16:00.000 Why shouldn't these people believe there's nothing wrong with that?

01:16:03.000 The Army's own report says raping women, and Jack, I heard major talk show hosts yesterday and today say, so what?

01:16:11.000 This is no big deal.

01:16:13.000 The Nazis didn't publicly brag about what they were doing.

01:16:16.000 This is new ground.

01:16:18.000 That's right, brother, and we've learned as police officers years and years ago, and soldiers here at our association, that The soldiers that were shooting and police that were shooting in the backs, women and children as they climbed the fence to freedom in East Germany was the very top, the most patriotic first line of police and military in that nation.

01:16:42.000 They had just been brainwashed in believing the end justifies the means and that all of this is good because it's answering to a higher calling and that is saving the system from the people.

01:16:53.000 Alright, Jack, I want to go to Mrs. Call, Joan Call, the widow, and Joan, we're going to go to you in just a few minutes, but in a nutshell, then we'll go to break and go to her, in a nutshell, who's Gordon Call, what happened?

01:17:08.000 Because this, torture's involved here as well.

01:17:11.000 It certainly is.

01:17:12.000 Joe, did you say, Alex, you wanted Joan?

01:17:14.000 Well, let me, Jack, in a nutshell, you explain it to us, then we'll go to break and go to Joan.

01:17:17.000 Alright, well, I'll take it from a police officer's standpoint.

01:17:21.000 We heard an all-points bulletin out in the Phoenix Police Department that a very evil man, a cop killer, had an apothecomatonus member, a demonic tax protester, all the evil names they could think of to call this man, had just shot two U.S.

01:17:40.000 Marshals, shot three other officers, and escaped.

01:17:44.000 And so we hated Gordon Call. 0.93

01:17:46.000 I mean, me as a police officer, I said, this guy is absolutely demonic.

01:17:50.000 We've got to find this guy.

01:17:51.000 And so we were enraged over us losing so many officers up there.

01:17:58.000 And as a police academy instructor, it was my duty to gather the evidence as to what happened, how it happened, so that we could teach our young recruits to not let it happen to them.

01:18:09.000 So as we began to gather the information, We found out an entirely different story than what was put out by the government and out by the media.

01:18:19.000 Tell us who Gordon Call was.

01:18:21.000 I mean, this was an Audie Murphy.

01:18:23.000 Yes, truly.

01:18:24.000 And we just published our 20th anniversary Aid and Abet Police Military Newsletter on Gordon Call and the loss of life of him and U.S.

01:18:34.000 Marshal Bud Warren and Sheriff Gene Matthews.

01:18:37.000 And Gordon Call was a highly decorated brother soldier.

01:18:42.000 He had won all kinds of awards.

01:18:44.000 He was a tail gunner in a B-52 and he was one of the most highly decorated soldiers of the Second World War.

01:18:54.000 We have several pictures of him here in his military outfit and so forth in our newsletter.

01:18:59.000 Oh, and he's also in B-17s in World War II, and had every award multiple times but the Congressional Medal of Honor.

01:19:07.000 Yeah, B-25J, I guess, is the one when he got shot up and he had all kinds of shrapnel in his body.

01:19:13.000 This was an Audie Murphy.

01:19:15.000 I mean, this was a great American, and he truly was.

01:19:18.000 And yet, he had this strong Christian belief that he was not supposed to be a part of aiding and abetting the criminal activities of our government today.

01:19:29.000 And he took a stand against it and became the enemy of the nation.

01:19:34.000 We'll stay there.

01:19:34.000 We'll come back to his widow, Mrs. Cole.

01:19:37.000 Mrs. Cole, God bless you for being here with us.

01:19:39.000 We'll talk about the new book as well.

01:19:41.000 We'll come back and get into this and what they did to Gordon, how they tortured him.

01:19:46.000 And when he got out of jail, he said, that's it.

01:19:48.000 I'm not putting up with this.

01:19:49.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

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01:24:06.000 Now, Joan Cole, who has over loved ones in prison to this day, Joan, I want to get into the book and how to help your son out.

01:24:16.000 I also want to tell the rest of the story because I'd imagine about half our audience isn't even aware of this, what happened to your husband despite, you know, there's been national TV shows demonizing him.

01:24:29.000 But, Jack, Joan, where should we start in telling this story?

01:24:33.000 Because the story is so important.

01:24:36.000 Yes, and it's quite lengthy, so I'm going to have to condense it as much as I can here.

01:24:41.000 And yes, Gordon was a World War II veteran, and he went to the war to start with.

01:24:48.000 He volunteered because he believed at that time when the war broke out that every able-bodied man should go to war.

01:24:58.000 A duty for his country.

01:24:59.000 Well, he found out after he got back to the states after he was wounded and went through all that, that it wasn't a war to win in the first place.

01:25:07.000 We won it by accident.

01:25:09.000 And then he began to start wondering why all these things were happening.

01:25:15.000 We had bought a very small farm when he got out of the Air Force, and we were going to farm it the way we thought we could.

01:25:24.000 But there were all these controls.

01:25:28.000 And he would not abide by the controls the government wanted him how to plant and not to plant and what to plant.

01:25:34.000 He wouldn't do it.

01:25:35.000 So he got into quite an argument with the people in Wells County here about it.

01:25:43.000 And then he decided he would go to college.

01:25:46.000 So he tried college, went to Fargo.

01:25:49.000 And then he was about four months down the road, he quit that because his English teacher was a card-carrying communist.

01:25:59.000 And they got into quite a few different arguments.

01:26:03.000 So every time we turned around, there was another control put on us.

01:26:07.000 And so he started to study and research and find out who these people were and why all these controls.

01:26:16.000 So one thing led to another and then this income tax thing came up.

01:26:21.000 Gordon was an income tax protester.

01:26:23.000 He did not protest a fair tax, real estate, or anything like that, but he did Looked into the income tax and found that law was not even a law.

01:26:37.000 So he quit paying that.

01:26:39.000 And so he was called this terrible tax protester.

01:26:43.000 But we're finding out there were millions more tax protesters.

01:26:47.000 And then he went to prison.

01:26:49.000 What happened to him in prison?

01:26:50.000 Well, he went to prison and while he was in there he was told he shouldn't even be there.

01:26:58.000 Under the circumstances they put him in there so he was released from there and then of course he kept on studying and trying to figure all this thing out.

01:27:08.000 And the problem was he was going around to the other farmers teaching them how to not be scammed by the banks and that made the officials angry.

01:27:17.000 Jack, you want to come in here?

01:27:19.000 Yes, very true.

01:27:20.000 Gordon was not the type of patriot we have today.

01:27:24.000 That goes to thousands of meetings a day in America, the meat-eating retreat gang that just goes and eats their dinner and then gripes some more and then goes home and doesn't do anything. 0.76

01:27:36.000 Gordon was an activist.

01:27:38.000 He believed as a Christian man that God told him to occupy this land until God's return and so he went out and started telling what he learned.

01:27:48.000 About how the farmers were being scammed and the farm control to control the food of the American people.

01:27:54.000 And he earned the righteous wrath of the Masonic Order that controlled the courts and the U.S. 0.93

01:28:01.000 Marshals Service there in North Dakota.

01:28:04.000 And he also learned about the Masonic Lodge and started speaking out about that.

01:28:07.000 So he was pinging on the turret of some very powerful organizations and people in that state.

01:28:14.000 And that's why We find a very unusual arrest scenario that was set up for Gordon Call and his family as we police officers began to investigate this case.

01:28:25.000 He's done absolutely nothing and we're about to break, but how did this develop?

01:28:30.000 There were meetings held as Gordon was going around the country telling people, that is here in North Dakota which is very remote, telling them years ago when he first got out of the Army to get out of the farm programs because they were going to be totally controlled by the government, these people, if they didn't stand up and say no to everything.

01:28:54.000 But they wouldn't do it and so now these meetings that we were going to I didn't go to all of them.

01:29:00.000 I went to some of them.

01:29:02.000 They were discussing all of the problems in the country.

01:29:05.000 Farm foreclosures, bankruptcies, homeschooling, which was forbidden here, and of course that income tax thing.

01:29:12.000 Man, what a radical guy.

01:29:14.000 He wanted them to stop banning homeschooling.

01:29:16.000 Oh, so evil.

01:29:19.000 And so we went to that meeting that day at Medina, North Dakota, where Dr. Martin held these meetings.

01:29:26.000 I'll tell you what, stay there, John.

01:29:28.000 We're going to come back and tell how this story developed.

01:29:30.000 It's an incredible story, a true travesty.

01:29:32.000 Then we'll talk about the book and your son and others, and how the police murdered their own people in one case.

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01:33:05.000 Joan Cole, widow of Gordon Cole.

01:33:07.000 We're going to tell you the story of what happened then, his escape.

01:33:13.000 And then finally how they tortured and killed her husband, and then killed a sheriff because he wouldn't go along with the cover-up.

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01:39:12.000 uh... to jack mcclamb and of course joan call uh... joan jack you guys have got the floor i want to get

01:39:19.000 the story told her sorry about the interruptions but the other important

01:39:22.000 information uh... that

01:39:23.000 so we get to this point where you go to this particular meeting

01:39:27.000 uh... your husband's active being a man being a leader defending weak people

01:39:31.000 It's what men are supposed to do.

01:39:32.000 It's what women are supposed to do. 1.00

01:39:33.000 This is what our forefathers did.

01:39:35.000 As a lover of America, this is what he was doing.

01:39:38.000 Doing peaceful exposés.

01:39:41.000 What happened next?

01:39:42.000 Well then, after discussing all these farm foreclosures and bankruptcies especially, These are some of the same people that Gordon tried to tell to keep out of it all together.

01:39:52.000 Well, now they're having to do all this and like I say, discussing all this.

01:39:58.000 We decided to end the meeting.

01:40:00.000 As we were coming out of the clinic, across the street from us was a pickup with somebody in there with binoculars on, which we didn't pay any attention to right then.

01:40:12.000 But somebody came around there and told us, they said, Gordon, I think you're being set up.

01:40:17.000 Now what I need to say here is, when we went to the meeting that day, Yori was wearing a brown jacket, and Gordon was wearing a blue jacket and a blue cap.

01:40:27.000 So what was happening, we find out later, this person was Deputy Brad Cap from Jamestown, and he was reporting to the Marshals, who we knew nothing about, Who was who and what was what.

01:40:40.000 So he reported to the marshals that the suspect, which was Gordon Call, was wearing a blue jacket and blue cap.

01:40:47.000 And Gordon was.

01:40:48.000 But we went around to the other side of the clinic and Yuri said, Dad, he said, if they're after anybody, they're going to be after you.

01:40:57.000 Because by then we got to figuring out there was something going on.

01:41:02.000 And he said, let's exchange quotes.

01:41:04.000 Yes, Gordon resisted, he didn't want to, but Yuri finally talked him into it.

01:41:09.000 Yuri is your son in prison now, and he's named after one of the gunners who died in Gordon's arms over Germany.

01:41:18.000 Yes, and that's who Yuri is.

01:41:22.000 That's who Yuri was named after.

01:41:25.000 So now, the marshals had the report that the suspect was wearing blue, but Yuri was now wearing the blue.

01:41:35.000 So, we go on... Well, I'll tell you what, stop right there, John, because people don't know this story.

01:41:39.000 Jack, can you lead us up to why they were being investigated?

01:41:42.000 What the setup was?

01:41:43.000 What was happening?

01:41:44.000 Well, it all had to do with Kenneth Muir, the new U.S.

01:41:48.000 Marshal, and he had This desire, and had so stated to Bud Warren, our dear brother Bud Warren, who knew Gordon Call as a good man and a fine Christian, but this young upstart that served under U.S.

01:42:06.000 Marshal Bud Warren, Kenneth Muir, was what we call in law enforcement a hot dog.

01:42:12.000 He wanted to kick you-know-what and take names all the time.

01:42:16.000 He just liked to fight and he was a very aggressive person.

01:42:19.000 Well, when the presidency was changed to a Republican, Bud Warren, the U.S.

01:42:26.000 Marshal there, was asked to step down, the friend of Gordon Call, and they replaced him with this hot dog named Kenneth Muir, who had this grudge against Gordon because Gordon was speaking out about the Masonic Lodge, which he was a part of with the local judge there.

01:42:44.000 And against the farm program, Gordon was a big mouth and he was going to shut his mouth.

01:42:50.000 Marshal Bud Warren said when he was appointed over Bud, and Bud took a retirement, that this was going to be trouble because he knew that this was a violent person and a person that wanted to get back at people he didn't like.

01:42:50.000 U.S.

01:43:08.000 And again, all Gordon's doing is going to meetings, handing out flyers, saying, don't go into debt with the banks, you know, they'll take your farm, which they can do, even though you've been paying.

01:43:17.000 And so, what were they planning to do that day?

01:43:20.000 Now, Gordon had told them, because I've had some of the local sheriff deputies on, who said, we're not going to be part of this, we know Gordon, he's a good guy.

01:43:27.000 Give us some background on that, Joan, please.

01:43:30.000 Well, when the marshals had come out to see Gordon a few years before that, They were going to arrest him, and Gordon told them, he said, you're not going to arrest me for anything.

01:43:40.000 He said, I didn't do anything, or I haven't done anything, because he wasn't even bothering anybody.

01:43:48.000 Well, these marshals went around the country wanting to know how they could find Gordon's place.

01:43:54.000 Well, they were told by everybody, you find him if you want him.

01:43:59.000 That's your job.

01:44:00.000 Gordon isn't bothering anybody.

01:44:02.000 So when they came out there that one day, Gordon told them to... He'd like to talk to them.

01:44:08.000 He'd like to explain a lot of things to them.

01:44:10.000 But they wouldn't even stop to listen to it.

01:44:12.000 They took off and that's from then on I'm sure is when Gordon was under surveillance and I'm sure also that when this thing was planned to come to Medina that day they planned a bloody massacre so they could kill us all off and then they'd write this little article in the paper about this is what happens when you don't pay income tax and It was nothing about income tax, yet Gordon was labeled this terrible tax protester.

01:44:40.000 We didn't even have to pay any income tax.

01:44:42.000 If Gordon would have signed that confession sheet every April 15th, we would never even have to pay any because we lived on a very meager salary and we were self-sustaining.

01:44:55.000 And my confession sheet would be in violation of your Fifth Amendment to sign that.

01:45:00.000 So let's bring Jack McClam back in.

01:45:03.000 So they're there in the town, but getting back to these sheriff deputies, I've talked to them, and they've admitted it was a setup to get Gordon.

01:45:10.000 They refused.

01:45:10.000 The sheriff said, I wouldn't go to this.

01:45:13.000 What then happened?

01:45:15.000 Well, even U.S.

01:45:17.000 Marshal Bud Warren, who is now retired at home, Kenneth Muir was trying to get some help to go out and kill this family, and so he called Bud Warren at home and said, man, we're going to have a shootout with the Kahl family.

01:45:29.000 Come along.

01:45:30.000 It was on a Sunday.

01:45:31.000 This is all on record.

01:45:32.000 Yeah, it's all on record.

01:45:33.000 And Bud Warren so stated and made everybody in government mad at him up there when he stated after these two officers had died that this was the truth. 0.87

01:45:43.000 But anyway, Bud says, heck no, you guys are crazy, there's going to be death, and I'm not going. 0.68

01:45:50.000 So it was a setup from the start. 0.90

01:45:52.000 Now, we as law enforcement people in the city of Phoenix, Arizona, of course, had heard the All Points Bulletin that went out for this desperado, and we believed it, that this was a bad guy.

01:46:06.000 As I began to gather the information on how these two U.S.

01:46:09.000 Marshals had died and three others had been injured by a 63-year-old tax protest farmer, which didn't make any sense at all, what we found was that these very highly trained U.S.

01:46:23.000 Marshals and local law enforcement had violated every policy, procedure, and arrest tactic to Uh... to stop the possibility of a violent confrontation.

01:46:36.000 They had violated every one of those tactics they had learned in the academy, and had exercised a thousand times.

01:46:43.000 Now some of the deputies refused to go, but I can break down what happened on the road, and Joe, you jump in any time.

01:46:48.000 Yes, well, Joan knows that story very well, so Joan, you pick up when they let them out on the street, but I want people to listen that we law enforcement people know that the way we know they went out to kill them, we can prove in any court, is because they violated every tactic That would allow them to have a non-violent confrontation.

01:47:09.000 Well, we've had the sheriff's deputies on who said they were talking about this.

01:47:12.000 But, Joan, tell us what happened that day.

01:47:15.000 Well, we went out then to go home, which is the direction that we would go home.

01:47:22.000 Gordon and Dave Brewer went ahead of Yori in Dave's car.

01:47:28.000 Yori and I and Scott Fowles and Vernon Wagner followed them.

01:47:32.000 And as we were heading north, there was these two cars parked in a V about a mile down the road ahead of us.

01:47:40.000 There were no flashing lights.

01:47:42.000 Yet the court keeps saying at the trial there were flashing lights.

01:47:46.000 There were none.

01:47:47.000 Anyway, as we could see, this V, with these cars shaped in a V, is when Gordon and Dave decided that something was going on here, so they went to turn around to go back.

01:48:01.000 There was a roadblock?

01:48:03.000 Yeah, it was a roadblock.

01:48:04.000 But see, there were no flashing lights, but they already figured that Something was going on here.

01:48:10.000 So there's a roadblock.

01:48:10.000 I understand.

01:48:11.000 They turn it around.

01:48:12.000 And so what happens next is here comes a ram charger with two marshals, a deputy and a U.S.

01:48:12.000 What happens next?

01:48:18.000 marshal from Bismarck and a fire truck and an ambulance already waiting, I guess, for the kill.

01:48:25.000 And then these guys from Bismarck, Cheshire and his deputy, had their guns pointing out of the windows telling us they're going to blow our so-and-so heads off and we're going to die.

01:48:39.000 And they would come on us like a bunch of wild terrorists in Cheshire.

01:48:43.000 Marshall Cheshire told Deputy Hobson to take his badge off and put it in his pocket before they got there because Hobson told that on the witness stand that day.

01:48:53.000 Well then when I look around and I see all these people with guns pointing at everywhere, Yori jumped out of the car and he ran over to a light pole, kind of kitty corner from where our car was, and he said, Mom, get down on the floorboards.

01:49:08.000 So I got down on the floorboards of the car and And I knew there was going to be problems.

01:49:15.000 There was silence.

01:49:17.000 Nothing.

01:49:18.000 And then all at once...

01:49:20.000 I heard all this very loud screaming and hollering and profanity.

01:49:25.000 It was terrible.

01:49:26.000 And then there was nothing for a second or two, but I did hear a voice.

01:49:32.000 And then later I learned that Dave Brewer said it was Gordon telling them, if you want me, come and take me, but leave my family and friends alone.

01:49:43.000 And they, of course, they weren't going to do that.

01:49:46.000 So Gordon said, put down your weapons.

01:49:48.000 I'll put mine down.

01:49:49.000 And he said, and we'll talk.

01:49:51.000 But they didn't pay any attention.

01:49:53.000 And immediately, just that quick, this bullet comes flying past me right directly towards Yori.

01:50:00.000 And I knew he was going to be shot.

01:50:02.000 It was a, I can tell the difference between a pistol and a shotgun and a rifle and all that.

01:50:10.000 And, uh, this was a high-powered pistol.

01:50:13.000 It sounded like a pistol anyway.

01:50:15.000 It just come whizzing by me.

01:50:16.000 And that was the first shot that was fired, and that was from Marshall Mirror shooting Yori, and Yori had a holster over his heart, or he would have been, uh, shot and killed that day. 0.91

01:50:26.000 Okay, so you got a man out there with his son and his wife being fired on by these psychopaths.

01:50:32.000 When we get back, we'll find out what he did. 0.99

01:50:33.000 In America, do you just let them kill you, let them shoot you, let them do this to you?

01:50:39.000 So we'll talk about what Gordon did after they shot his son.

01:50:43.000 When we get back.

01:50:45.000 Alright.

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01:54:18.000 We're talking to Gordon Cole's widow and Jack McClam police against the New World Order.

01:54:24.000 Believe me, Jack's done his investigation, I've done one.

01:54:27.000 We haven't even gotten to the really sick part of the story yet when they killed Gordon later.

01:54:33.000 But I know it's hard for you to talk about this, John, you've got a lot of courage.

01:54:37.000 Uh, Joan, continuing now. 0.57

01:54:38.000 They shoot your son.

01:54:40.000 What happens next? 0.91

01:54:42.000 He hollered, I'm hit, I'm hit.

01:54:44.000 And Gordon heard that and immediately he was shot again five times and put to the ground.

01:54:50.000 And Gordon said in his letter that he wrote on the run, by the way, he fled, you know.

01:54:56.000 He wrote and he said, I took no pleasure in killing these men.

01:54:59.000 And he admitted there that he killed both of these marshals, but he said I could see that soon my 30 rounds of ammunition would be gone.

01:55:08.000 And he was there to defend Yori and I and Scott Fowle.

01:55:13.000 And so then finally the shooting was all over.

01:55:17.000 When I realized it was all over, I looked up I looked around and I saw Scott bringing Yori from the pool and Yori was bleeding.

01:55:26.000 There was blood all over.

01:55:29.000 Let's stop right there, Joan.

01:55:30.000 I want to go to the reconstruction of what happened from our investigator, most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix history, and Vietnam veteran Jack McClam.

01:55:39.000 Jack, what happened during those shots?

01:55:43.000 Joan has it right.

01:55:44.000 Our investigation shows that the first shot came from Kenneth Muir, the U.S.

01:55:49.000 Marshal that led this.

01:55:51.000 Uh, arrest scenario, alleged arrest scenario.

01:55:55.000 And so, when Yuri was shot down, Gordon had no choice but to open fire to protect his family, and that's what he did. 0.84

01:56:04.000 And we have Supreme Court rulings that say if a mad dog cop is killing you and your family, you have every right to kill him. 0.70

01:56:10.000 Absolutely, that's true. 0.89

01:56:12.000 But when you have a totally corrupt criminal justice system, it doesn't come out that way very often today.

01:56:17.000 It used to, but it doesn't happen today. 1.00

01:56:19.000 You know, this guy was pretty stupid. 1.00

01:56:21.000 I mean, Gordon was known as being a very good shot. 1.00

01:56:23.000 I mean, shot down a lot of Messerschmitts and Folkwolves. 1.00

01:56:28.000 He was known for being a good shot.

01:56:31.000 They were out for blood. 0.99

01:56:32.000 They bragged they were going to kill everybody. 0.50

01:56:35.000 I mean, was this a Masonic hit order on Gordon?

01:56:38.000 Well, we'll never know that for sure.

01:56:41.000 He did tick off the judge, the U.S.

01:56:44.000 District Court judge, who was a Masonic, top guy in the Masonic Lodge, and these two U.S.

01:56:49.000 Marshals that were killed were his brothers in the Masonic Lodge, but we'll never know that.

01:56:53.000 We do know, however, that Kenneth Muir, had a mission to stop Gordon Call from speaking out and turning the farmers into informed farmers knowing that the government's policy was to remove the family farm and turn the farms over to the big agri-farm.

01:57:11.000 How did this go down?

01:57:12.000 How did the shots go down?

01:57:13.000 Who was hit?

01:57:13.000 You know, obviously Uri's hit first, then Gordon starts firing back.

01:57:17.000 Yes, and then all hell broke loose to be quite honest with you.

01:57:21.000 Gunfire, It was hard to tell, people were screaming and the people that were hit after that was just the ones that Gordon hit.

01:57:31.000 Can I put something in here right now?

01:57:33.000 There was this one police officer, his name was Schnabel, he worked with Daryl Graff, they gave those guys a bad time too after this.

01:57:44.000 And Gordon went around then after the shooting was over and he took Schnabel's gun and Schnabel said to him, don't shoot Gordon.

01:57:57.000 I'm all done, or words to that effect.

01:57:59.000 And Gordon didn't shoot. 0.71

01:58:01.000 He could have killed every one of those guys. 0.99

01:58:03.000 If he would have been a killer like he's been accused of being, he could have killed them all because these were all cops. 0.99

01:58:09.000 Well it's like the Branch Davidians, when the BATF put their hands up, they let them go. 0.96

01:58:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:15.000 This is the same and also let me say that Gordon could have been picked up any day at the grocery store, hardware store, working alone in his field.

01:58:24.000 Just like Vernon Howell, they could have arrested him anywhere non-violently.

01:58:28.000 But there'd be witnesses and you couldn't kill him.

01:58:30.000 That's right.

01:58:32.000 Alright, stay there.

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02:00:06.000 Alright, my friends, now into the third and final hour, we'll have our guest, Joan Call, widow of Gordon Call.

02:00:16.000 On with us for another 30 minutes with Jack McClam, police against the New World Order.

02:00:21.000 Police and military against the New World Order.

02:00:23.000 In fact, I'll probably keep Jack on for the rest of the hour if he can do it to go over some of the news with me today to get his great analysis of it.

02:00:29.000 Your calls are coming up, but, uh, Joan, uh, Jack, you guys take it from here, and in a nutshell, then the manhunt, what took place in Arkansas, I mean, it gets even more evil from here.

02:00:42.000 Well, Gordon fled then.

02:00:44.000 He took me into the clinic.

02:00:45.000 Well, I got to go back a little bit here.

02:00:47.000 After I see Scott bringing Yori from the pole and blood running all over, I just thank God he lived. 1.00

02:00:54.000 And I blinked my eyes and Yori slumped to the ground and I thought he was dead.

02:00:59.000 And then I went into shock, I guess, because they tell me Gordon took me into the clinic And I don't remember that at all.

02:01:07.000 And then Gordon and Scott took the policeman's car and they fled.

02:01:13.000 Well, then of course I was coming out of this better then.

02:01:19.000 Doc didn't think Yuri would live because they shot his whole body up.

02:01:24.000 He didn't think there was a chance he'd live, but he did.

02:01:27.000 And of course then they threw me in jail and Yuri and all the rest of us.

02:01:32.000 and then Gordon fled. Well then Jack I guess you can go, well I was going to say here in the meantime

02:01:39.000 the next day after on this was on February 13th And on the 14th, the crime investigators came from Washington, D.C.

02:01:50.000 and got me in jail there and was asking me a bunch of questions about where Gordon was, what I did not know.

02:01:56.000 Well, they got real hateful with me, but they told me they were going to go out and destroy our home because they knew Gordon was there.

02:02:05.000 And I said, no.

02:02:06.000 I said Gordon would not jeopardize any one of his family or friends.

02:02:09.000 He is not there.

02:02:10.000 Now, I don't know where he's at, but I Do know that he's not there.

02:02:14.000 They went out the next day with an army tank and 125 men and they totally destroyed the only home I had and the only home Yori's wife and their two little girls had.

02:02:27.000 Now see, this shows the psychopathic nature of going and destroying your home.

02:02:33.000 Jack?

02:02:34.000 Yes, brother, and I would like to say to you that It would be so important if you and I, Alex, could discuss the end that I've worked on for 15 years, and that's the Arkansas execution of Gordon Collins.

02:02:48.000 Yeah, let's talk about that, and let's tell people the time frame of all this happening.

02:02:52.000 Well, let me say this, though, to you, brother, that if you and I could do that alone without Jones, what we need to do is talk about how we can get Yuri out of prison right now with the time we have left in his book.

02:03:05.000 Well, let's do that.

02:03:06.000 We can talk about together my investigations with eleven other officers from nine different states there in Arkansas and the executions down there, but right now let's let Joan get into the necessity for getting these two young boys out who have now been in there 21 years for nothing they did.

02:03:26.000 Their young children have grown up without them and we need to get them out of prison and we need the help of your listening audience to do that.

02:03:34.000 And so if we could spend our time... Yeah, let's do that.

02:03:36.000 In fact, we were going to do that in the next segment.

02:03:38.000 Okay.

02:03:39.000 I just want the people that don't know the story to get the full picture of this travesty.

02:03:43.000 Well, go right ahead, Joan.

02:03:45.000 Go right ahead.

02:03:46.000 Yeah, when Gordon fled then, and then, of course, they found him there in Arkansas, and I think Jack can tell this story better about the The way they murdered him.

02:03:57.000 Go ahead, Jack.

02:03:57.000 Yes.

02:03:58.000 Okay, sister.

02:04:00.000 Yes.

02:04:01.000 We, once again, back to our police department, the six largest in the United States.

02:04:05.000 I'll tell you what, let's stop right here.

02:04:06.000 We got a break.

02:04:07.000 We'll come back, Jack, in a nutshell, tell us what happened with the murder of Gordon.

02:04:12.000 Then we'll plug the book, which is, and how to support these young people who are totally innocent.

02:04:18.000 Well, now they're not young people.

02:04:20.000 How to do this.

02:04:22.000 Then we'll take calls and then we'll spend more time in detail on the brutal execution and how they killed a cop who didn't want to go along with it.

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02:04:33.000 That sounds real good, brother.

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02:08:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:08:08.000 In the last couple months, we've seen these cases where somebody with no criminal record puts a sign in their yard, saying our court system's a joke, deputies come arrest them, steal the signs, and the judge tells the newspaper you're not allowed to criticize the government, it's disrespectful.

02:08:25.000 It's this lunatic idea that we're there to serve them, and Gordon paid with his life for not licking their boots, but I mean, how bad is it going to get?

02:08:37.000 We're talking to his widow, Joan Cole, and of course, Jack McClam, a police officer, is going to do a detailed investigation.

02:08:44.000 We'll get to that investigation in a few minutes.

02:08:45.000 There's a new book out, and the proceeds of it go to try to get her son and others who were there out of prison, when it's admitted they did absolutely nothing and were fired on first.

02:08:57.000 And Gordon admitted that, you know, he's a sharpshooter.

02:09:00.000 He's the one that, with precision, shot these feds and the deputies.

02:09:05.000 And then they later tortured and killed him.

02:09:06.000 So how do people get this new book?

02:09:09.000 Tell us the name of the book, tell us about the book, what it covers.

02:09:13.000 It's called A Writ of Habeas Corpus Documenting the Cause of the Federal Assault on Gordon Call at Medina, North Dakota.

02:09:13.000 Go ahead, Joan.

02:09:21.000 And there's a website, you can get it on the website.

02:09:27.000 Let me see what is it here.

02:09:28.000 I have it here a minute ago.

02:09:30.000 www.yorivoncall.com.

02:09:33.000 That's Y-O-R-I-E-V-O-N-K-A-H-L.com.

02:09:39.000 Or you can order it through Yorivon Call, Post Office Box 597.

02:09:46.000 Benton, Louisiana, 71006.

02:09:50.000 And the phone number is 318-965-1230.

02:09:53.000 And that is also at Yori's Sister's, my daughter's place.

02:10:01.000 Go through all that slowly.

02:10:04.000 Okay.

02:10:06.000 The website is www.yoribondcall.com.

02:10:13.000 Y-O-R-I-E-V-O-N-K-A-H-L dot com.

02:10:20.000 And you can order it through Yorivon Call.

02:10:25.000 All checks and money orders payable to Yorivon Call, Post Office Box 597, Benton, Louisiana.

02:10:34.000 It's B like in boy, E-N-T-O-N-K-A-H-L. 1.00

02:10:39.000 And it's 71006 and the phone number is 318...

02:10:46.000 9-6-5-1-2-3-0.

02:10:47.000 Okay, and if people want a copy of the book, it's $29.95?

02:10:52.000 It's $24.95 plus $5 postage, which would be $29.95.

02:10:58.000 So total, how do we help get your son and others out of prison?

02:11:02.000 And Jack, how did they convict them?

02:11:04.000 It's like the Davidians are found not guilty by the jury, but then they still get 40-something years in prison. 0.98

02:11:11.000 Well, brother, it's an absolute travesty to anybody that would look at the record up there.

02:11:17.000 The judge knew the two U.S.

02:11:21.000 He was a Lodge member with them.

02:11:21.000 Marshals.

02:11:23.000 They buddy-buddied together.

02:11:25.000 They played cards.

02:11:27.000 That judge should never have been the judge in that case.

02:11:30.000 He had to recuse himself.

02:11:32.000 Of course, he didn't because he wanted to railroad these young boys into prison because they uh... couldn't get a hold of call because he was still on the loose so they were going to punish these young boys for what he did and the prosecutor actually had a childhood friend on the jury which he knew it but they they covered it up.

02:11:52.000 This is like if somebody murders your wife and you're the judge over the case.

02:11:57.000 That's exactly it and so it was a total there's so many things that happened in there and then in jury instructions The judge can always sentence you to prison through his jury instructions because he says that he will tell you the law and you don't get to look at the law to see if it was fair or whatever.

02:12:17.000 And the jurors admitted afterwards that they couldn't make any other decision after jury instructions from the judge except to find these boys guilty.

02:12:26.000 And some of the jurors said they didn't believe they were guilty.

02:12:29.000 And so it was totally a railroad job.

02:12:32.000 How do we get him out of prison now?

02:12:34.000 Well, I believe, and Joan can share ideas with you, but I believe, Alex, we need to get this book out in the hands of very important people.

02:12:42.000 We need to try to help Yuri with his legal funds, which this book will do, if we can order this book and get it.

02:12:51.000 But also we need to try to get these young men Uh, uh, exonerated because of the travesty of justice in North Dakota.

02:13:01.000 I think that the governor of North Dakota should be contacted by thousands of people and tell him to look into this case where these boys were railroaded.

02:13:11.000 He can, he can give them a pardon.

02:13:14.000 Okay, we'll talk more about that before we end this, but we've got to get into the murder of Mr. Cole and this sheriff later in Arkansas.

02:13:25.000 In a nutshell, what happened?

02:13:27.000 Okay, Gordon had escaped, and nobody knew it but a few friends of Gordon who had helped him escape, and he ended up way out in the woods in Lawrence County, Arkansas in a Energy-efficient home, which was partially underground.

02:13:45.000 It was embedded back into the dirt and was a very nice little home of Leonard Ginter, a friend of Gordon's, and so he was hiding out there.

02:13:57.000 He had been told by a number of people the truth, that we law enforcement people were told also that when the U.S.

02:14:03.000 Marshals found him, they would execute him because of the embarrassment they suffered at the hands of this 63-year-old farmer.

02:14:11.000 And of course, we knew that in law enforcement too, that he'd never get to court because they were so mad that they would execute him.

02:14:19.000 Well, this is exactly what happened.

02:14:21.000 We believe, in our investigations, we've been back there five times and spent extensive, literally months and months of investigation and years of putting all these facts together.

02:14:34.000 We exhumed Gordon Call's body and took it to Dr. Fahmy Malik, or not Fahmy Malik, but Tom Thomas Noguchi in Los Angeles and I spent three days in the body bag of Gordon Call helping using space age technology on the body of Gordon Call to prove without a doubt that he was executed.

02:14:56.000 A small caliber handgun was put to the back of his head and he was shot and he fell to the floor in that home and he never rose again.

02:15:05.000 Now Sheriff Gene Matthews was in there and witnessed this happen.

02:15:10.000 And he looked down in the face of Gordon Call, who had just been executed, and he had never seen Gordon Call.

02:15:17.000 U.S.

02:15:18.000 Marshal Jim Hall, who actually, we believe, did the execution, hadn't either.

02:15:24.000 So when the sheriff screams, hey, you just killed the owner of the house, Bill Wade, because if you look at a picture, which we have, of Bill Wade, the owner of the house, and Gordon Call, you can hardly tell them apart.

02:15:37.000 They both He wore ball caps all the time.

02:15:39.000 The man laying on the floor was still wearing a ball cap.

02:15:43.000 So the sheriff made a mistake and said, my God, you just executed the owner of the house.

02:15:48.000 This isn't Gordon Call.

02:15:49.000 Well, panic and pandemonium broke out.

02:15:52.000 And obviously, we believe the sheriff said he wouldn't go along with the cover-up.

02:15:57.000 You guys executed the wrong guy.

02:15:59.000 I'm not being a part of this.

02:16:00.000 So before he got out of the house, he was shot twice with two different weapons.

02:16:05.000 One was a shotgun blast to the back.

02:16:08.000 One, well, one he took in the chest that the local medical doctor said he probed and couldn't find a bullet and then when he got outside the house, he finally got outside the house, he was shot from a, with a high-powered rifle up underneath his arm and he died on the way to the hospital because of the shot to his To his aorta and it blew up his aorta artery and he died.

02:16:37.000 But he was not allowed to live, Sheriff Gene Matthews, because he was going to tell the truth.

02:16:44.000 So they shot the guy in the back of the head.

02:16:46.000 When did they get Gordon?

02:16:47.000 Well, they put out the police dogs into the woods.

02:16:51.000 We have the matter of record.

02:16:52.000 They set the police dogs out to try to find Gordon.

02:16:55.000 They thought he escaped.

02:16:56.000 Of course, Gordon was laying in there on the floor dead.

02:16:59.000 And then they concocted this big firefight and they had the surrounding officers, there were just a hundred officers surrounding this home.

02:17:09.000 They began to shoot into the building to make it look like it was a big firefight.

02:17:13.000 They torched the building hoping to burn up the body of Gordon Call and they didn't manage to do that.

02:17:20.000 We have proof, and we can prove it, that they used a pressurized heat source, a high intensity heat source, A fire on that body for over two hours to try to cremate it.

02:17:32.000 We believe it was a military flamethrower because of some other evidence we have where the flamethrower was shot on the body, we believe, from the big glass window that was knocked out.

02:17:45.000 Right across from the body, in that direction, the enamel was burned off the refrigerator the flames throw shot through the door into the uh...

02:17:55.000 uh... the uh...

02:17:56.000 little room off to the side where the enamel freezer was in a cook the enamel

02:18:01.000 right off the edge of that freezer so we know that and doctor thomas neguchi told us that they

02:18:07.000 applied a heat source to that by body trying to create made it for over two hours

02:18:11.000 same thing it would go get it done because they knew we could prove that they executed this

02:18:17.000 man and he never did or shot and he did not feel like i can use a lot of was the

02:18:21.000 owner of the house but it really was gordon and i panicked and

02:18:24.000 you know the uh...

02:18:26.000 And you've got a lot of evidence to him killing the sheriff.

02:18:29.000 We can prove this, brother.

02:18:31.000 I'm telling you, we've got Gordon Call's gun that was never fired.

02:18:35.000 All the rounds in the Mini-14 that laid under his body when he fell over were cooked off by the fire.

02:18:41.000 He never fired it.

02:18:42.000 And we can prove that Sheriff Gene Matthews' gun did not kill Gordon Call.

02:18:49.000 The official statement from the government is that these two men faced each other in a face-to-face shootout.

02:18:55.000 And shot each other within ten feet.

02:18:57.000 Well, our autopsy report shows they were both shot from the rear.

02:19:01.000 So we've got all the evidence, but brother, we can't get it into a court.

02:19:05.000 We can't get it into a grand jury.

02:19:08.000 Because the corruption is so intense and so far flung that the state won't allow us into a state grand jury.

02:19:16.000 The federal grand jury's closed to us.

02:19:18.000 We've been to the Congress and the Congressman won't even look at it.

02:19:22.000 So we need the people's help to resolve this thing.

02:19:25.000 All right, stay there.

02:19:26.000 We're going to come back and take some calls.

02:19:28.000 We'll take calls immediately when we get back for the widow of Gordon Cole, Joan, and of course, Jack McClam.

02:19:34.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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02:24:00.000 Alright my friends, Jack McClams, our guest, of course, and Joan Call.

02:24:04.000 We appreciate her incredible courage and standing up for the truth.

02:24:07.000 Let's go to some calls for our guest.

02:24:09.000 I want to thank you guys for holding.

02:24:11.000 Dan in Colorado, you're on the air worldwide.

02:24:13.000 Go ahead.

02:24:16.000 Yes, Dan.

02:24:18.000 Last time I called you, we talked about how sodium fluoride was first used in NAPI concentration camps.

02:24:26.000 Yes.

02:24:26.000 You talked about a U.N.

02:24:27.000 document that you had seen that it's a big plan to dumb us down.

02:24:33.000 I was wondering if you could post that on InfoWars?

02:24:36.000 I'm not sure what... I'm talking about a U.N.

02:24:38.000 plan to restrict water supplies.

02:24:42.000 That's what you're talking about?

02:24:42.000 Oh, really?

02:24:43.000 Well, there's also U.N.

02:24:44.000 plans to dumb us down through UNESCO.

02:24:46.000 I mean, that's in the university textbooks.

02:24:48.000 But, sir, do you have any comments for our guest?

02:24:52.000 You guys really need to fight this and see what you can do about it.

02:24:55.000 Because it's not right to put people in jail without real charges on no evidence.

02:25:02.000 No real good evidence.

02:25:04.000 No evidence at all.

02:25:07.000 And yeah, you definitely need to fight that.

02:25:09.000 Okay, Dan, thanks for the call.

02:25:11.000 Tim in Ohio.

02:25:12.000 Tim, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:25:14.000 Hello, Jack.

02:25:16.000 Hello, Mrs. McCall.

02:25:17.000 Hello, Bill.

02:25:19.000 I wanted to express I want to say I want to volunteer to you my services.

02:25:29.000 I found that a lot of people don't have the time or will make the time to read anymore.

02:25:37.000 I have been a television video producer.

02:25:39.000 I have six Emmy Awards and I would donate my time and services to you to produce a documentary if you want to.

02:25:46.000 And we could do this out and I'll give you that information off the air.

02:25:50.000 Well, that's great.

02:25:51.000 You've got six Emmys.

02:25:52.000 What for?

02:25:53.000 Producing and editing.

02:25:55.000 Well, I need your help, too.

02:25:57.000 But no, go ahead.

02:25:59.000 Do you guys want to get Tim's contact info?

02:26:02.000 Praise the Lord, yes.

02:26:03.000 Yes, for sure.

02:26:05.000 Yeah, Alex, if you would, you could help us with that, because I don't know a thing about that, and I don't think Joan does either.

02:26:11.000 No, you've got that right.

02:26:12.000 Well, I've made some documentaries, but I haven't won Emmys for it.

02:26:17.000 Tim, any other comments about the situation?

02:26:21.000 It goes back to when you allow your constitution and your government to be served by international bankers, And you know, I think it all comes back to the Depository Trust Corporation.

02:26:34.000 Up above their address, they call it the Tower of Power, and they control the Federal Reserve, the American Bar Association, and it's all on the arm of the banking interest.

02:26:42.000 And like you said, they're trying to destroy the small family farmer, and turn it all over to the agribusiness.

02:26:50.000 I mean, if you look at the Rockefeller Foundation heading up to the GATT Treaty in 1993, They went around and they collected seed varieties from what, over 90%?

02:27:00.000 80% of the world's seed grains?

02:27:01.000 And then they put their little geometric, their genetic, I'm sorry, twist on it.

02:27:06.000 To then take it all over and destroy all the originals?

02:27:09.000 Yeah, they destroy the originals, so that's putting us before their control.

02:27:12.000 The UN said in 1997 that food is a weapon and they will use it.

02:27:15.000 Yes, sir.

02:27:16.000 Right.

02:27:18.000 Well, that's what Gordon Cole was speaking out against, and you know he He earned the righteous wrath of these internationalists that were doing just that when he was trying to expose it.

02:27:30.000 Was this in 1984?

02:27:30.000 1983.

02:27:30.000 Yeah, and then they, when did they kill Gordon?

02:27:36.000 They killed him on June 3rd, 1983.

02:27:39.000 Four months later.

02:27:41.000 Yes.

02:27:42.000 Just, just absolutely horrible.

02:27:44.000 Well, if it's alright with you guys, Jack, I'll give you Tim's number, or can we give Tim Jack's number?

02:27:50.000 Is that okay with you?

02:27:52.000 Jack?

02:27:53.000 That's fine, sure.

02:27:54.000 Okay, we'll put Tim on hold and let Tim get your number.

02:28:00.000 Thank you, Tim.

02:28:01.000 Okay.

02:28:02.000 Look, they demonized Gordon in national made-for-TV movies, which were total frauds, weren't they?

02:28:07.000 They certainly were.

02:28:08.000 Horrible.

02:28:09.000 Terrible, yeah.

02:28:11.000 Nothing but lies.

02:28:12.000 Nothing but lies about it.

02:28:14.000 Well, it's like Waco, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, A. Christian patriots, and there needs to be more of us like them, and use them people as a role model.

02:28:49.000 And I'd also like to say, you know, with all these other states, you know, with Penas Crowder and Kelly and Kentucky and different places like that, You know, the squeaky wheel gets oil first, right?

02:29:06.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:29:07.000 And if we can boycott tourism, to help fight their terrorism against us, and also be getting in touch with the governors... Hey, I'll tell you what.

02:29:18.000 JP, Larry, others, be patient.

02:29:21.000 We'll come back in a few more minutes with Joan Call.

02:29:24.000 And take your calls.

02:29:26.000 Then I'm going to spend the last 20 minutes or so with Jack McClam on some of the news.

02:29:30.000 We haven't gotten to yet.

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02:33:05.000 there to destroy your house!

02:33:07.000 They bring an army tank and run over it. 0.95

02:33:08.000 I mean, that's all because they wouldn't just sit there and let them shoot them. 0.77

02:33:13.000 What you got is psychopaths that want to get into positions of power, and we've been conned by it.

02:33:19.000 And we need real defenders and real peace officers to stand up against it like Jack McClam.

02:33:24.000 JP in California, go ahead and finish up what you were saying.

02:33:29.000 The more calls we can flood these different places with, right here in our own country, the less work they'll be able to do on their own end.

02:33:37.000 Look, letting them know that we know, and that we're the majority, and that we're not buying their story, that the world is flat, and that freedom is bad, and that torture is good.

02:33:47.000 We're not buying that stuff.

02:33:50.000 Jack McClain, I'm seeing a massive awakening taking place.

02:33:54.000 People know something's wrong.

02:33:56.000 We've seen the same thing with our police officers and soldiers, brother, here at our Police and Military Association.

02:34:02.000 So, hallelujah, it's beginning to happen.

02:34:05.000 It's just too bad, isn't it, that people have to have guns to their head and their own oxen have to be gored before they actually stand up and take notice.

02:34:14.000 It's sad, because when a neighbor down the street, it happens to them, they say, well, that's old Harold.

02:34:19.000 He probably deserves it, so I'm not going to say anything.

02:34:22.000 And now it's at our own doors.

02:34:24.000 We're finally beginning to wake up, so it's just sad it's taken this to awaken some of the American people.

02:34:32.000 Yeah, JP, thanks for the call.

02:34:34.000 Joan, do you have any comments to what people have been saying?

02:34:36.000 Well, I think it's a crime when you can't assemble...

02:34:41.000 Together in this country, a handful of people, 20 or 30 people, without getting shot and put in jail and murdered and everything else.

02:34:50.000 Well it's big business up there stealing the farms and running things and we're boss hog in this county lady, you're gonna pay! 1.00

02:34:57.000 Don't you? 0.93

02:34:58.000 You're our slave, didn't you know? 0.98

02:34:59.000 Oh yeah.

02:35:02.000 And I guess your husband said, I'm not your slave.

02:35:04.000 Yes, he did.

02:35:05.000 And he said he would not be under bondage with a system that was so anti-Christ.

02:35:11.000 And he said he considered the enemies of Christ his enemies.

02:35:15.000 And he considered these were enemies.

02:35:18.000 And he said he would not succumb to them in any way.

02:35:23.000 And you know, if all of us were like that, we'd be a rich, powerful, blessed country again.

02:35:29.000 But as we get more and more wicked, the blessings are being taken away, aren't they, Jack?

02:35:33.000 Absolutely, brother.

02:35:34.000 The reason we're in the position we are is we've decided not to be a Gordon Call.

02:35:39.000 We've decided that the preachers are telling us the truth when they tell us to go along with everything evil government tells us to do, because all evil government is of God.

02:35:47.000 Well, then if that's the point, when Caller made the point yesterday, when the devil had Christ up there after fasting, and said, you know, I run all these governments, I can be the boss, I'm the government of Earth, then Christ should have bowed down to Lucifer, according to this.

02:36:00.000 Absolutely.

02:36:01.000 Absolutely.

02:36:02.000 And after all, you know, the preachers shouldn't have hidden the Jews in their attic, they should have turned them over to the Nazis. 0.88

02:36:09.000 I mean, you know, if all evil governments of God, then we can't resist anything, we've got to help them with their evil.

02:36:16.000 All right, two more calls and we're going to let Joan go, and just God bless her, we'll give that address out and phone number out again, so get ready for it. 0.80

02:36:23.000 Larry in North Dakota.

02:36:24.000 Larry, go ahead.

02:36:25.000 Hello, Alex?

02:36:26.000 Yes, sir.

02:36:27.000 Yeah, I've got almost all of the news clips around those times from the call case, you know, from on TV.

02:36:35.000 Yes.

02:36:36.000 And I was going to send you a copy of those.

02:36:38.000 I talked to your people about a month ago.

02:36:39.000 I would love you to send me a copy, and you need to give Mrs. Call a copy.

02:36:44.000 Yes, I'd be more than happy to.

02:36:46.000 That would be wonderful because our law enforcement agency can use it here too.

02:36:50.000 We'd love to have those original film clips.

02:36:53.000 Okay.

02:36:54.000 Now a friend of mine worked in the courtroom up there and he's, after this, he's deathly, deathly scared of the feds.

02:37:04.000 He's got good reason to be.

02:37:06.000 Yes.

02:37:07.000 And one of the things that he was telling me is afterwards uh... almost uh... a year or so afterwards he uh... ran

02:37:17.000 into a couple of the feds

02:37:21.000 in a different way but anyway uh... they were uh...

02:37:24.000 uh... actually laughing and joking that uh... some of the other prisoners were getting special

02:37:31.000 privileges for violating and harassing these guys while they were in

02:37:37.000 uh...

02:37:37.000 Let me ask Mrs. Call about that.

02:37:39.000 Your son and others that are in there, what's happened to them in their 20 years in prison?

02:37:46.000 I don't think, that's not true with Yuri anyway.

02:37:49.000 And as far as Scott, I don't know.

02:37:51.000 Yuri said the one thing about it with him in there, He has not gotten into any problems or trouble with any of the other inmates, as undesirable as they are.

02:38:01.000 But has he been, I mean, have the guards, I mean, so he was never mistreated?

02:38:05.000 No.

02:38:06.000 It was particularly the other two.

02:38:08.000 They put, pardon?

02:38:09.000 It was particularly the other two, or there's two other people.

02:38:13.000 Oh, I think, I think I know who you're talking about.

02:38:16.000 I think it's Daryl Graff and Schnauble, probably.

02:38:19.000 Mm-hmm.

02:38:19.000 Because, uh, Yorin Scott, they've not been mistreated that way.

02:38:24.000 They put Yorin in the hole a few times for something he didn't even know about.

02:38:28.000 But, uh, otherwise... Well, what have they done to the other people?

02:38:32.000 Well, they've been out for a long time.

02:38:35.000 Dave Brewer's been out.

02:38:37.000 He was in like seven years, I think.

02:38:40.000 And then Daryl and Schnabel were only in there for, I don't know, just a couple days or so, I think.

02:38:46.000 All right.

02:38:46.000 Well, anything else?

02:38:48.000 Yeah.

02:38:49.000 One other thing is, I think the judge was Benson?

02:38:52.000 Yeah.

02:38:52.000 And you know what?

02:38:53.000 Wasn't he pulled out of retirement for this case?

02:38:56.000 No, he got Alzheimer's and they put him in a nursing home.

02:38:59.000 I don't like to have to say this, but I'm going to say it.

02:39:02.000 Because of the way he instructed the jurors to do, and they did it, it's his fault that Scott and Yuri are in prison.

02:39:10.000 And I hope when he was in that nursing home that he suffered just like he made those guys suffer.

02:39:16.000 But the good part of it is now he's before a real judge, and that should be interesting.

02:39:21.000 And he was the same judge who was involved in I can't remember the guy's name.

02:39:25.000 Pelletier?

02:39:26.000 Pelletier, yes.

02:39:27.000 And right now I need to probably put this in here too.

02:39:32.000 One of Pelletier's attorneys came in to see Yori the other day and Yori is really impressed with him and so he's going to try to get us a new trial if we can get enough money together to pay him.

02:39:43.000 And reputation up there is Benson was considered the hanging judge because it didn't matter whether you're guilty or not guilty.

02:39:52.000 You're going.

02:39:53.000 You're going.

02:39:54.000 That's right.

02:39:54.000 Thank you Larry.

02:39:56.000 Thank you Larry.

02:39:58.000 One last call.

02:39:59.000 Robert in Tennessee.

02:39:59.000 Go ahead Robert.

02:40:01.000 Eric?

02:40:02.000 Yes?

02:40:03.000 Alert for Jack McLam to get in touch with me as soon as he could.

02:40:08.000 Okay Robert.

02:40:09.000 Anything else?

02:40:10.000 It's 865.

02:40:11.000 Can't give your number out Robert.

02:40:15.000 Robert, what else is on your mind?

02:40:19.000 I can give out my number real quick here.

02:40:21.000 Yeah, let's do that.

02:40:23.000 Robert, and also our police association here is working 100% with Joan to try to get her son out, and so you may need to contact us for some reason.

02:40:33.000 We're asking the police and soldiers that are listening today, especially the police, Alex, to get a hold of our police association here and sign on with us We've got over 70 police who have signed on with us to get these young boys out of prison, and so let's give out our number.

02:40:53.000 It's 208-AREA-CODE-935-7852.

02:40:54.000 That's 208-935-7852.

02:40:54.000 area code nine three five seven eight five two that's two oh eight

02:41:01.000 nine three five seven eight five two if enough of our police officers out

02:41:07.000 there we sign on with us we could help get this uh...

02:41:10.000 pardoned from the governor up there in north dakota All right, that's a great idea.

02:41:15.000 Joan Cole, I appreciate you telling the truth, and God bless you.

02:41:21.000 Give people the address one more time if they want the book.

02:41:24.000 Okay, it's www.yoryvoncall.com and to order through the mail, it would be yoryvoncall,

02:41:43.000 post office box 597, Benton, Louisiana, 71006 and the phone number is 318-965-1900.

02:41:54.000 One, two, three, zero.

02:41:56.000 And all checks and money orders are to be made out to Yori Von Call. 1.00

02:42:00.000 All right.

02:42:01.000 It's $29.95.

02:42:01.000 That includes shipping for the book.

02:42:03.000 Yes.

02:42:04.000 I called.

02:42:04.000 Okay, listen.

02:42:05.000 I really appreciate you coming on and God bless you.

02:42:07.000 Thank you.

02:42:07.000 And Yori said to tell you hello and Jack too.

02:42:10.000 All right.

02:42:11.000 Okay, sister.

02:42:12.000 We appreciate you.

02:42:13.000 We say hi to Yori as well.

02:42:15.000 Thank you.

02:42:15.000 Take care, ma'am.

02:42:17.000 Jack, I mean, this is just one of many cases, one of the more famous, and it's so horrible And this stuff's getting worse and worse.

02:42:26.000 Worse and worse. 1.00

02:42:27.000 When you talk to police and military, I mean, these young stupid ones, they love it. 1.00

02:42:31.000 A lot of the older ones are starting to see it. 0.99

02:42:33.000 I mean, I've had high-level DPS people at the cleaners, you know, get in my shirts, stop me and agree with me.

02:42:40.000 But, I mean, how do we turn this around?

02:42:42.000 Well, brother, it's a long process because it starts with the families putting their kids in the government school system And learning situational ethics and then becoming our police and soldiers.

02:42:57.000 It was a long process, but we've got to get this nation back under the godly foundations.

02:43:02.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:43:02.000 That's the only way we can do it without having a war, internal war in this nation, which is what we don't want to have, where we have the very best people in the private sector fighting and killing and being killed by those very best police and soldiers in the In the nation here.

02:43:21.000 And I have to tell you, Jack, it's not a fight that they're going to win.

02:43:24.000 If they really keep pushing, and really try to do the things that the globalists want them to, people aren't going to have a choice.

02:43:31.000 They're not going to have a choice, brother.

02:43:32.000 I mean, how are they going to like fighting a million Gordon Calls?

02:43:37.000 Well, or many more.

02:43:39.000 Many more than that.

02:43:40.000 You know, we've got 70 million people here in the nation with firearms.

02:43:45.000 We communicate a lot with police officers and soldiers that are going to be on the side of the American people against the soldiers and police officers.

02:43:52.000 You just read a big official study a few months ago and I had it here on the show where 90 plus percent of police in real surveys are pro-gun and so they won't confiscate guns.

02:44:02.000 Absolutely and that's a righteous survey.

02:44:05.000 The American Federation of Police did one a few years before that and they came out with basically the same statistics.

02:44:11.000 But they put every sociopathic CIA drug dealing front in as the police chiefs over them, and every time a cop shoots an old lady in the chest, he gets caught with a year and gets promoted.

02:44:24.000 Yes, that's true.

02:44:25.000 Sadly, we learned over 20 years ago in our law enforcement agency in Phoenix, if you're willing to do everything you're told to do, everything, immoral and unlawful, you get the promotion.

02:44:36.000 And the same in the military today.

02:44:39.000 We want people that obey orders and don't think twice about what they're being told to do.

02:44:44.000 I want to talk about this torture, because it's the Army's own report.

02:44:47.000 Have you seen the report that came out yesterday?

02:44:49.000 I have not, no.

02:44:51.000 I've got a copy of it right here, and I wanted to just read to you from the findings, and this is the 800th, uh, Article 15-6, Investigation of the 800th Military Police Brigade, Major General Antonio M. Togumba.

02:45:05.000 And here in the findings, starting on page 15, it says, I find the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel, including the following acts, punching, slapping, kicking, detainees jumping on their naked feet, Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexual explicit positions.

02:45:26.000 Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees.

02:45:29.000 Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.

02:45:33.000 Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear. 0.91

02:45:36.000 Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped. 0.99

02:45:41.000 Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them. 0.98

02:45:44.000 Uh, and it says, uh, posting a naked MRE, a naked detainee on an MRE box and sandbag on his head and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and sexual organs to simulate electrical torture.

02:45:57.000 It says, placing a dog chain or strap around the neck of a detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture. 0.99

02:46:04.000 A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee. 1.00

02:46:07.000 That's rape! 1.00

02:46:09.000 A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee using military working dogs to bite them severely, injuring detainees severely. 0.99

02:46:18.000 And it goes on and on, sodomizing them with large military flashlights. 0.95

02:46:24.000 Threatening detainees with loaded firearms. 0.88

02:46:27.000 Beating detainees with a broom.

02:46:29.000 Handling a chair. 0.99

02:46:30.000 Threatening male detainees with rape.

02:46:34.000 Threatening their children in front of them. 0.69

02:46:36.000 I mean, this is some of the most cold... and it's admitted.

02:46:39.000 They did this all out in the open, in the middle of the prison, with all these troops around them.

02:46:42.000 They were told to do this by army intelligence, Chuck.

02:46:45.000 And they can't say that's not true, because even the generals now said it.

02:46:48.000 And Rumsfeld's been on TV for two years saying torture's good!

02:46:52.000 Yes, that's correct.

02:46:53.000 These orders came from on high, but it is sad, brother, when we read about one of the sergeants there saying, well, you know, we didn't get to read the Geneva Convention.

02:47:04.000 We didn't have any training, so we didn't know hooking wires up to this guy's gonads was bad or sodomizing him.

02:47:12.000 Hey, we weren't trained!

02:47:14.000 Now, there's a sickness in the minds of the people.

02:47:18.000 That have become police officers and soldiers that Martin Luther talked about.

02:47:22.000 He said every institution in which men are not increasingly occupied with the word of God must become corrupt.

02:47:28.000 And it's become corrupt.

02:47:30.000 And when a sergeant tells you he didn't know any difference and he didn't see anything wrong with it because he hadn't read the Geneva Convention or that he hadn't been properly trained, so what the heck?

02:47:41.000 Well, you know, whatever he wants to do is just fine.

02:47:43.000 But of course, these orders came from on high.

02:47:47.000 Sure, these soldiers didn't just decide to do these things.

02:47:51.000 No, they didn't.

02:47:51.000 And it is a very small portion doing it.

02:47:54.000 But at the same time, you watch the TV shows.

02:47:57.000 Every TV show, cop show now, they torture people every episode.

02:48:01.000 Torture's good.

02:48:02.000 A mass warping is taking place, Jack.

02:48:04.000 How dangerous is that?

02:48:05.000 That's very dangerous, and we see the results of it today in American prisons, where we have prison guards that are doing the exact same things to prisoners today, and even executions of these prisoners.

02:48:17.000 And we've had people that We know, through our information, that have been executed and suicided in the prisons. 0.96

02:48:24.000 So, if the American people think, hey, it's those dirty Arabs, who cares? 1.00

02:48:29.000 And I've had ministers tell me that in America. 0.99

02:48:32.000 You're wrong.

02:48:33.000 You know, you better care because it's happening in this nation and under martial law and under the FBI's own brochure saying all Christians and those that love the Constitution are domestic terrorists.

02:48:45.000 It's coming home.

02:48:46.000 I mean, it's already here, Alex, in our business.

02:48:49.000 Well, Jack, how do they get away with that?

02:48:50.000 I mean, I have boxes of FBI training manuals, ADL training manuals. 0.99

02:48:54.000 All homeschoolers are terrorists. 1.00

02:48:56.000 All Christians are terrorists. 1.00

02:48:57.000 Those that talk about the Constitution are terrorists. 1.00

02:48:59.000 These are quotes.

02:49:00.000 How do they get away? 1.00

02:49:01.000 I mean, how stupid are the police? 1.00

02:49:03.000 Do they just believe whatever they're told? 1.00

02:49:04.000 No, it's a long process of promoting those that are the most evil up to leadership in the institutions, brother.

02:49:14.000 Today, as you know, the internationalists that control our nations America, Canada, England, Israel, all these nations, their leaders are totally evil and corrupt and they are the satanic Luciferians and this is the type of government you get and you deserve when all the Christians abandon the institutions like they have in America. 0.99

02:49:39.000 Christians have abandoned the institutions and are saying, why fight? 1.00

02:49:43.000 We're on the next flight or we're going to get the heaven out of here next week, so who cares?

02:49:50.000 God in heaven said, if you don't occupy the land like I told you to, I'm going to send punishment upon you and you're going to be in bondage because you've thrown me out of this nation. 0.92

02:50:00.000 And of course, no one can disagree that we've allowed God to be thrown out of this nation.

02:50:05.000 And when we create that kind of vacuum, brother, Lucifer and his minions take over and you can see it in the White House.

02:50:12.000 Absolutely.

02:50:13.000 Jack McClam, Police Against the New World Order.

02:50:16.000 Just type in Police & Military Against the New World Order.

02:50:18.000 His website will pop up.

02:50:19.000 Type it into his search engine.

02:50:21.000 It's PoliceAndMilitaryAgainstTheNewWorldOrder.com.

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02:53:53.000 Push pauses to comfort a teen.

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02:56:18.000 Oil prices up and likely to keep rising.

02:56:22.000 The price of oil is likely to remain high in coming months and could rise further, analysts said, because of ravenous global demand and petroleum producers' reluctance to boost supplies.

02:56:32.000 This is out of the Houston Chronicle.

02:56:34.000 Ravenous demand?

02:56:35.000 You've reduced supplies!

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02:56:47.000 It's just, oh man, it's just incredible.

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02:57:13.000 The little bit of oil they allow out from BP goes right to Japan, right to China to build the wedges to knock your jobs out.

02:57:21.000 This is out of the Philadelphia Inquirer, excuse me, Cincinnati Inquirer, excuse me.

02:57:25.000 The girl lost her mom in the World Trade Center on 9-11 during his visit to the Golden Land Inn in Lebanon.

02:57:32.000 President Bush stops to hug Ashley Faulkner who lost her mom in September 11th attacks.

02:57:38.000 I mean, that is such a sick photo.

02:57:40.000 This poor girl being hugged Oh my.

02:57:45.000 I just can't handle it.

02:57:46.000 Oh my goodness.

02:57:47.000 I mean, this is why I don't watch TV.

02:57:49.000 I have to watch these people smirking and laughing when they got a basement full of dead bodies.

02:57:53.000 That's the equivalent.

02:57:54.000 That's the analogy.

02:57:55.000 In a moment largely unnoticed by the throngs of people in Lebanon, waiting for autographs from the President of the United States, George Bush stopped to hold the teacher's hand close to his heart.

02:58:07.000 Lynn Faulkner, his daughter Ashley and her neighbor, Linda Price, eagerly waited to shake the President's hand.

02:58:15.000 He worked the line at a steady campaign pace, smiling, nodding, and smiling.

02:58:21.000 This girl lost her mom at the World Trade Center on 9-11.

02:58:24.000 Bush stopped and turned back.

02:58:26.000 Oh.

02:58:27.000 He changed from being the leader of the free world into being a father, husband, and a man.

02:58:30.000 He hugged her with love!

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Alex Jones Show - May 10, 2004

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