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00:01:18.000 I want to go back into this torture.

00:01:21.000 But while we're focused on the torture, our courts are going under U.N.

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00:01:46.000 All of this is going on at breakneck speed while we're focused on the torture, which we've known about since the beginning of Desert War II, which they just decided three weeks ago to begin bringing out.

00:02:02.000 I mean, torture's old hat to this broadcast.

00:02:05.000 We talk about it every day.

00:02:06.000 We know it's very important.

00:02:08.000 Let me just give you a summation of what's going on with the torture.

00:02:13.000 I have the official Army reports, the generals, the military admitting it, Bush has looked at the photos, it's admitted, children being raped, women being raped, people being beaten to death, but 90 plus percent of the TV news, I did watch about an hour of it last night, flipping around through the channels, as well as talk radio, which I've listened to hours of over the weekend and yesterday, Are going, oh, they beat up a few people.

00:02:41.000 Oh, big deal.

00:02:42.000 Oh, it's no big deal.

00:02:43.000 They're still making excuses for it while ignoring the rape and murder.

00:02:49.000 Now, I did interviews this weekend.

00:02:51.000 I even called into some talk shows.

00:02:53.000 I was so angry about this over the weekend.

00:02:55.000 And I had one local talk show accuse me, oh, this is Alex Jones.

00:02:59.000 Oh, you're not credible.

00:03:01.000 You know, I said, well, we've got this General's Report.

00:03:04.000 It's posted on my website.

00:03:05.000 Oh, your website's incredible.

00:03:06.000 I go, it's a link to MSNBC.

00:03:09.000 They hung up on me.

00:03:10.000 The report doesn't exist.

00:03:11.000 It's not true.

00:03:12.000 The Army's own report, out a week ago, admits they've confessed to raping, raping women. 0.98

00:03:21.000 And now it comes out, beating and raping small children? 0.98

00:03:28.000 I mean, I'm even blown away by this. 0.99

00:03:30.000 Where do they find these people?

00:03:34.000 I just can't even get my mind around this type of psychological worldview.

00:03:41.000 And it's admitted they were ordered to do it.

00:03:43.000 It's public.

00:03:44.000 It's not a secret.

00:03:45.000 It's not debatable.

00:03:47.000 Rumsfeld's been on TV for two years saying torture's good.

00:03:50.000 The CIA's been in the Washington Post years ago bragging about torturing people and quote, threatening their children.

00:03:58.000 This has all been out there.

00:04:01.000 And Bush can say he's sad about it, but his surrogates are all over talk radio saying this is no big deal.

00:04:09.000 They're just blowing off some steam, just having some fun.

00:04:12.000 Those are exact quotes.

00:04:15.000 And last night I listened to a talk show, about ten minutes of it.

00:04:23.000 I'll talk about it when we get back.

00:04:24.000 I have to even commend Neal Bortz.

00:04:26.000 I mean, he disagreed with his co-host, his junior, and the caller, this woman goes, she goes, she had a British accent, well, I'm an American and I voted for Al Gore, but I love Bush now and I love Rumsfeld.

00:04:38.000 He's such a hero.

00:04:39.000 Why, in that TV show, this is where the people get their news, Band of Brothers, they light up 20 Germans and kill them. 0.89

00:04:48.000 And Bortz goes, well, that's murder, that's wrong, and by the end of it, you know, The other guy's going, oh no, this is good.

00:04:55.000 This is good.

00:04:55.000 You know, the simulated murders.

00:04:58.000 Simulated crimes.

00:05:00.000 This is what they teach us.

00:05:01.000 And the general public gets their news from TV.

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00:08:45.000 9 hours a day no excuse all different schedules out there the average American you can tune into the broadcast Alright, let me just try to be calm in this second segment of this broadcast on this 11th of May 2004 edition of the Alex Jones Show.

00:09:03.000 Let me just try to be calm and go over this in a calm fashion and I want you to listen to what I have to say about this issue and then we'll open the phones up and get your take, your response to it.

00:09:18.000 When Charlie Manson Went in with Tex Watson and others, and opened a woman's belly up and took a fetus out of her, a baby, when they murdered other individuals, and when they were captured, they didn't tell the police that they just weren't given proper training, that they were under stress, that it was a tough job, and so this is why they were engaging in these sickening degenerate activities.

00:09:48.000 You know, when serial killers kidnap women and children and men, they do things like sodomizing them with large objects, degrading them, making them do bizarre sexual things to themselves, beating them to death.

00:10:04.000 This is what serial killers do.

00:10:08.000 So the next time a serial killer is caught murdering some people, I guess their argument will be, at least it should be, That they weren't given proper training or they needed to blow off some steam.

00:10:20.000 That they had a bad day just having some fun.

00:10:24.000 Now that's the level of sickness we're hearing.

00:10:29.000 And we're also hearing that it's abuse.

00:10:32.000 So, now if someone rapes your wife, or your son, or your daughter, or your husband for that matter, I guess they won't be charged with rape, I guess it'll be assault, or they'll just call it abuse.

00:10:50.000 Well, of course they won't! 0.88

00:10:51.000 Rape is rape! 1.00

00:10:54.000 And I have the Associated Press, I have Reuters, I have BBC, I have the Australian, I have MSNBC and in the foreign papers it'll be the headline that children are being raped and beaten in front of their parents, that women are being raped and tortured and things I can't mention on the air and won't mention on the air. 0.95

00:11:15.000 That's in the headlines.

00:11:16.000 In our media it'll be in paragraph 10, a two-line mention in MSNBC or an ABC News story.

00:11:27.000 It'll be in the back of the paper. 0.96

00:11:30.000 And we see the neocons, the liberals in their false debate talking about lack of training and a few bad apples and then one of the white trash's lawyers will come out and say, well you know, Bush is behind this and then Bush will say, I'm really disgusted with you, you're going to jail. 0.96

00:11:55.000 And they're all pointing the finger at each other. 0.95

00:11:57.000 It's like when police bust a bank robbery gang or something.

00:12:03.000 They're all turning state's evidence against each other.

00:12:06.000 I mean, that's all that's going on here.

00:12:10.000 So, I've probably done, I don't know, ten interviews since Friday.

00:12:16.000 And a few callers have called in.

00:12:20.000 The vast majority think this is horrible.

00:12:22.000 But some have called in, and they'll go, well we've helped Iraq, their schools, and we're helping them, and this is just a few bad apples, or, or, or, or, well I haven't heard about the rape of women and children, and you're making it up!

00:12:33.000 And I go, well it's on InfoWars.com!

00:12:35.000 And they go, and, and, and, it's a scripted answer, you know, psychologically been ingrained in them by the mainstream media.

00:12:43.000 Oh, that's the internet, you can't believe it!

00:12:44.000 And I go, no, the site is linked to army documents, to confessions, to mainstream news.

00:12:50.000 That's what the sites are!

00:12:52.000 We will write analysis about their spin.

00:12:55.000 We will do special audio and video reports, but 90% of it is mainstream news.

00:13:01.000 We just link to it.

00:13:05.000 So, there's this incredible denial.

00:13:08.000 I mean, up until this weekend, there was still denial that any, quote, even abuse had taken place.

00:13:14.000 I mean, I had talk show hosts accusing me of being a liar, saying no one had confessed, there was no army report, that I was just making all of this up.

00:13:27.000 It's like people who say there is no national draft.

00:13:29.000 There is no move.

00:13:30.000 They are not recreating the draft boards.

00:13:33.000 They're not getting Selective Service ready for women. 1.00

00:13:35.000 That's been all over the news.

00:13:37.000 Senators and Congressmen have called for it.

00:13:40.000 There's denial about that.

00:13:41.000 I mean, we have a population that are masters of denial.

00:13:49.000 They will simultaneously talk about rape rooms and torture rooms with Saddam Hussein and how evil he was, and certainly some of that went on.

00:13:59.000 Frankly, I'm a light side compared to a lot of these Arab countries that are just completely out of control. 1.00

00:14:04.000 Understand, it's this for or against us, or what side are you on?

00:14:08.000 I'm not the one arming all these Arab countries.

00:14:10.000 I'm not the one putting in dictators, training them how to torture.

00:14:13.000 It's the globalists that are doing that.

00:14:15.000 They create the crisis.

00:14:17.000 So they say, oh, you must be with the Muslims then.

00:14:20.000 Uh, no.

00:14:21.000 The globalists have created this crisis.

00:14:25.000 And there's another facet to this.

00:14:27.000 I have the United Press International, the Asia Times, the Associated Press articles in front of me, and I'll go over some of these today.

00:14:32.000 Remember two years ago, Donald Rumsfeld, L.A.

00:14:36.000 Times actually wrote the story, came out with P2OG, seven billion dollars in funding. 0.89

00:14:46.000 And it's the proactive intelligence group, uh, G. And Rumsfeld openly said, we're going to kill people's children, we're going to bomb their homes to make terrorists attack us. 0.92

00:14:57.000 Well, yeah, to create terrorists. 0.92

00:14:58.000 And we're going to do provocative things and put out provocative propaganda to enrage the Arabs so we can then target more countries. 0.99

00:15:07.000 I mean, the guy publicly talked about this.

00:15:11.000 This is a declassified Pentagon report.

00:15:14.000 This is, imagine the stuff they're hiding.

00:15:18.000 And now the world is talking about putting America on a short leash, getting rid of our military, making it a unit of the UN.

00:15:25.000 Bringing the U.N.

00:15:26.000 in as the savior in Iraq, only they can fix it. 0.91

00:15:29.000 Again, I'm not tooting my horn, I know what I'm talking about here.

00:15:32.000 A year before we went to war with Iraq, I said, we're going to go in and commit atrocities, we're going to be the bad guys, and the U.N.' 's going to come in, be a little more lenient, still totally dominate, and then they'll be seen as the savior, and the world will see the E.U. 0.86

00:15:46.000 and NATO as the good guys, and America as the bad guys, and this is all part of a cynical process that's taking place right now.

00:15:56.000 But understand, these troops admit they were ordered to do this.

00:16:00.000 It is admitted, just quietly in the back of the paper, that it is not debatable that many generals complained, generals resigned from Cuba to Iraq.

00:16:12.000 Colonels resigned, put in reports in Afghanistan about murder and torture of people, and now there's another government report saying upwards of 80% of the people in these prisons were completely innocent, just grabbed at checkpoints.

00:16:27.000 They got 32 of these things.

00:16:29.000 The average amount of detainees at one of these facilities is 2,100.

00:16:32.000 is 2,100 so 32 times that. Tens

00:16:41.000 of thousands upon tens of thousands and they just get you to checkpoints

00:16:46.000 They take your children with you. 0.99

00:16:50.000 They beat them. 1.00

00:16:51.000 In some cases, they videotape raping your children in front of you. 0.99

00:16:58.000 Folks, I can't... I'm going to try to read some of these articles on there.

00:17:05.000 I don't even want to admit to myself this is happening, but we have to be strong.

00:17:11.000 We have to deal with this because if we accept this it's going to go on here domestically on a mass scale.

00:17:16.000 It's already going on here domestically at the hands of Child Protective Services and the police and the government.

00:17:22.000 Every week there's articles of this going on in jails and prisons.

00:17:26.000 Every sociopathic sadist you can imagine is enrolling in the police department now and enrolling as jail guards.

00:17:33.000 We are entering hell itself. 0.96

00:17:37.000 Go ahead and play Limbaugh last week talking about what's going on in these prisons and oh, they're just blowing off steam.

00:17:43.000 It's just like fraternal fun at Skull and Bones.

00:17:46.000 They're just having some fun.

00:17:47.000 Go ahead and hit that.

00:17:50.000 Stephanie.

00:17:51.000 What's psychologically wrong with that?

00:17:54.000 It's not the act so much, it was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked men... Exactly! 0.71

00:18:01.000 Exactly my point!

00:18:03.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives with it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hamper them because they had a good time.

00:18:17.000 These people are being fired at every day.

00:18:19.000 I'm talking about the people having a good time.

00:18:21.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

00:18:25.000 You ever heard of needing to blow some steam off?

00:18:28.000 I heard a lady on talk radio, I listened to caller after caller, driving around town doing errands on different shows, it was all the same thing.

00:18:36.000 Well, I've seen that show Band of Brothers on HBO and they line up 20 Germans who haven't done nothing to machine gun them and I think it's good. 0.97

00:18:45.000 And the co-host, oh yeah, I think it's wonderful.

00:18:47.000 The other goes, well, I don't really think so.

00:18:49.000 Well, it's just war.

00:18:50.000 I saw it on TV, see these make-believe shows.

00:18:55.000 Band of Brothers, 24, Threat Matrix, NYPD Blue.

00:18:58.000 Every episode is torture and murder of suspects.

00:19:01.000 Or POWs.

00:19:02.000 But believe me, if this was happening to our troops, if there was video of our troops being raped and murdered and beaten... Can you imagine the mad howls, just the insane foaming at the mouth? 0.99

00:19:14.000 Can you imagine if, say, a plane got shot down full of men, women, and children, and the Iraqis were raping women and children? 1.00

00:19:23.000 Can you imagine? 0.94

00:19:24.000 Oh, it's a horrible thing, but when it happens, with our government doing it, either it doesn't exist, or you're making that up when it's admitted, or, well, that's just a few bad apples, or... I mean, this is incredible.

00:19:40.000 This is incredible. 0.96

00:19:43.000 I mean, this is a psychopath's dream job. 0.93

00:19:47.000 It's now coming out the jail guards were having orgies together themselves, pulling women out of the cells. 0.98

00:19:53.000 I mean, just, just, just, just hell on earth, people! 0.95

00:19:57.000 Just a demonic... I imagine every demon on the planet is flocking to those prisons to, you know, enjoy the fun. 0.75

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00:24:29.000 Torturing women and children, raping women and children, beating people to death, is just blowing off some steam, having a good time.

00:24:40.000 Why they're under stress, why they just didn't have proper training. 0.99

00:24:45.000 The commanders didn't know what's going on.

00:24:47.000 They should get in trouble, you know, a slap on the wrist, a reprimand, because they weren't watching properly.

00:24:54.000 So it's just a lack of training.

00:24:55.000 Next time there's a woman kidnapped and beaten to death and murdered in your area, just call the police and say, why is there even an investigation?

00:25:02.000 Whoever did this just had bad training.

00:25:05.000 You need training to not beat people's children in front of them.

00:25:09.000 I mean, you know.

00:25:10.000 You need training to not, I guess, go out and cut somebody's head off and just start drinking their blood.

00:25:16.000 Charlie Manson didn't do anything wrong.

00:25:18.000 He just needed some training.

00:25:20.000 And then they're calling it, first it's abuse, then alleged abuse.

00:25:25.000 It's not torture.

00:25:27.000 It's not torture having somebody stand there naked while you scream at them and a police dog bites them and blood spurts all over the place.

00:25:33.000 I mean, that's not torture.

00:25:36.000 No, no way.

00:25:37.000 That's not torture at all.

00:25:40.000 No, no.

00:25:40.000 Don't worry.

00:25:41.000 They've hired the camp x-ray head, who got hired a year and a half ago when the last general quit refusing to torture people, and they tortured 11 daylights out of him at camp x-ray.

00:25:50.000 That's been admitted.

00:25:51.000 Stuff even worse.

00:25:52.000 And so, he's been sent there to fix things.

00:25:55.000 We've sent Heinrich Himmler because Herman Goering wasn't doing things properly under the Fuhrer's orders.

00:26:05.000 So, a pack of weasels was viciously attacking the hens, and so we're going to dispatch some giant grey foxes to do things a little bit more judiciously.

00:26:16.000 You know, the chickens were jumping around in the coop, freaking out a little bit.

00:26:20.000 We need to do things a little more quietly, a little bit more, in a more mechanized fashion.

00:26:26.000 And, of course, the jail guards thought it was all normal, because they were just passing out DVDs, you know, CDs of it, DVDs of it, calling their friends, emailing them around.

00:26:35.000 They were quite proud of this.

00:26:37.000 This was, you know, they were fighting for the homeland.

00:26:40.000 And, of course, it turns out some of these jail guards beat the living daylights out of their wives, have gotten in trouble for beating people at prisons and doing all this, and they just get to have more fun now.

00:26:51.000 So it's not torture.

00:26:53.000 It's not torture at all.

00:26:54.000 Joseph Mandela didn't torture.

00:26:56.000 He just, he might have abused.

00:26:57.000 He might have blown off a little steam.

00:27:01.000 What do you guys think of yourselves out there now that advocated torture?

00:27:06.000 You see what it does to the mind, what it creates with the climate?

00:27:10.000 And major government report, 80% of those in the prison had done nothing wrong.

00:27:14.000 They were just randomly grabbed off the street with their children with them and tortured.

00:27:19.000 And the children were tortured.

00:27:20.000 Children as young as four years of age.

00:27:22.000 This is the freedom.

00:27:24.000 And I guess I'm not patriotic for being against it.

00:27:26.000 Why, you know, if you're patriotic, you support the troops while they're breathing their depleted uranium.

00:27:32.000 You know, they've got to have a little fun, blow off some steam.

00:27:34.000 Gary in Colorado, thanks for holding.

00:27:36.000 Go ahead.

00:27:38.000 Yo, can you hear me, Alex?

00:27:39.000 Yes, I can.

00:27:40.000 Hey, buddy, I've been a fan of yours since 1997, and I want to applaud you for your history knowledge and your steadfast search for the truth, my friend.

00:27:49.000 So you listened back in 97 when we were the big right-wingers exposing Bill Clinton.

00:27:54.000 Yeah, I did.

00:27:55.000 But now because we expose Bush's open borders, big government, New World Order gun-grabbing, we're liberals.

00:28:01.000 Exactly, sir.

00:28:02.000 Because we have a moral compass that we follow. 1.00

00:28:06.000 We're not rudderless idiots. 1.00

00:28:08.000 Exactly, sir. 1.00

00:28:09.000 I've been reviewing the subject of the government and corruption since the 70s.

00:28:13.000 The first book I read was by William Simon, A Time for Truth.

00:28:17.000 You ever heard of that book?

00:28:18.000 Yes.

00:28:19.000 It was a great book, too.

00:28:22.000 That's why you didn't shock me as bad back then, but unfortunately, Alex, what's so sad about what we're talking about is you're a terrific intellect and a fantastic researcher, and the English guy you got is fabulous, too.

00:28:36.000 A lot of people are either in denial, I think, or they just feel like they can't do anything about it and they refuse to believe it.

00:28:46.000 I think the state is in such bad shape that I'm actually thinking about leaving the country.

00:28:51.000 And I'd heard that you said your wife had actually talked about doing it too.

00:28:56.000 Well, we're not leaving, but, you know, frankly, it's global.

00:29:02.000 It's a new world order.

00:29:04.000 If there was some new continent and freedom and a place where you could be free, I would leave.

00:29:08.000 Frankly, I have to be honest with you, if a state seceded and instituted a Bill of Rights culture, I would move to that state.

00:29:15.000 Whether it was Idaho or Texas or New Hampshire, I would move there immediately. 0.96

00:29:20.000 But no, I'm going to stand and fight, because there's nowhere to run.

00:29:23.000 You can't run from this.

00:29:26.000 Well, I got a good friend that lives in Perth, Australia.

00:29:28.000 Have you ever heard of Australia?

00:29:30.000 Yeah, Australia was good 10 years ago, but Australia fell.

00:29:34.000 Wide open borders, gun control, massive crime, fought crime laws, total enslavement.

00:29:42.000 New Zealand fell as well.

00:29:43.000 Yeah, I was there in New Zealand too.

00:29:46.000 Western Australia was pretty good.

00:29:47.000 It reminded me of the United States in the 50s and 60s.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, good people.

00:29:51.000 Good people.

00:29:52.000 Not anymore.

00:29:53.000 It fell.

00:29:53.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:57.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

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00:33:16.000 work. We'll get into the economy.

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00:33:43.000 But in the overall presentation itself, it is.

00:33:47.000 It is, and it's meant to make America look bad.

00:33:50.000 This has been done by our government on purpose to make the EU and the UN look like the saviors.

00:33:55.000 This is the program and, oh, we've got to put America on a leash now. 0.99

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00:38:08.000 Okay, let's go ahead and go back to the calls.

00:38:11.000 Anthony in Louisiana.

00:38:12.000 Anthony, go ahead.

00:38:14.000 Hi, Alex.

00:38:15.000 I served with the 10 Special Forces in Erbil, Iraq, from March, the very beginning of the war, until a little bit after June, after the official end of the war.

00:38:24.000 And I'm just calling to make the view known that all the allegations in this Army report does not reflect exactly how the Army uniformly treated prisoners and detainees.

00:38:37.000 Well, you weren't in the 800th Military Police Brigade, were you?

00:38:41.000 That's correct.

00:38:42.000 That's right.

00:38:43.000 I was not, no.

00:38:45.000 Okay, well, understand.

00:38:46.000 I said this last Friday.

00:38:48.000 99% of the troops are good.

00:38:54.000 But these special cadres, School of America-type trained jail guards hired out of the prisons, these private contractors, the guys in plain clothes screaming at the naked people they're torturing, they were ordered to do this and I've been accused on major talk shows that there is no Antonio, Brigadier General Antonio Tugundu report when it's public and they have confessed to raping women.

00:39:22.000 What do you say to that?

00:39:23.000 Well, yeah, I did read on Fox today about him, exactly, and about what he said.

00:39:30.000 Well, listen, forget the filter of Fox!

00:39:32.000 Right.

00:39:33.000 On InfoWars.com, we have MSNBC, we also have a link to the Army document itself on the Army's website.

00:39:40.000 It is admitted.

00:39:42.000 I understand.

00:39:43.000 Yeah, I'm just calling to make it known that, you know, that hyper-treatment was not a uniform practice.

00:39:49.000 Throughout the whole of the Army.

00:39:52.000 Let me ask you a question since you're here, sir.

00:39:55.000 Are you aware of the radiation problem, but not just the radiation, the heavy metal toxicity of depleted uranium?

00:40:02.000 Yes, I've read Taper on News and about the multiple levels of DU and how it's poisoning and how the Army is trying to remove topsoil in this futile attempt to You'd make the situation right again.

00:40:14.000 Yeah, thousands of times safe levels and the troops are staying in the bases that were bombarded with it.

00:40:20.000 So see, I really support you.

00:40:22.000 I'm against them using this. 1.00

00:40:25.000 See, that's how you really support the troops, is you actually support them by being informed, not by being a drooling idiot neocon. 0.99

00:40:33.000 I'm not saying that you're actually against troops at all. 0.99

00:40:36.000 No, no, I'm not saying you're saying that.

00:40:38.000 All I'm trying to point out here is that they could care less about the troops.

00:40:42.000 This whole war was a fraud from the beginning, according to Dick Cheney's own PNAC document.

00:40:48.000 And they've been ordered to torture these people.

00:40:50.000 We trained Saddam how to torture. 0.97

00:40:52.000 And all we've done is put in a new administration.

00:40:55.000 We've always been there.

00:40:56.000 We've always run the country since 1918.

00:40:58.000 This is just a new administration, sir.

00:41:00.000 Okay, I have one more question and I will hang up.

00:41:05.000 And that is, I've heard little bits here and there about your explanation of the co-opting of what's called the Christian Coalition by Bush.

00:41:15.000 And how it's presenting a false apocalyptic model, and how it's making a false polarization of us against the Muslims, and how that's done by design.

00:41:26.000 And I would like to see if you could explain that, and then I'll hang up.

00:41:30.000 Thanks.

00:41:31.000 Sir, before you do that, I'll answer your question.

00:41:33.000 Will you stay with us for a second?

00:41:36.000 Are you there?

00:41:36.000 He already hung up.

00:41:38.000 I wanted to get his response to this.

00:41:41.000 Stephanie, will you give me the clip of them running over the car with the tank?

00:41:45.000 I want to air that one more time.

00:41:48.000 And I might air it in a month or something, but this really is the last time in the near future that I'll do this.

00:41:52.000 Do you have that clip, Stephanie?

00:41:54.000 I wanted to... I doubt you can get back in, Anthony, but if you can call back in at 1-800-259-9231, I'd like to... because this isn't the 800th Military Police Brigade.

00:42:05.000 The specially trained torture masters.

00:42:08.000 The specially trained rape masters. 0.99

00:42:11.000 With specially trained ghouls. 0.93

00:42:13.000 This is regular army, finding people stealing, they claim, it just shows this little car, with three sticks of firewood in the back, and then they laugh about it, machine gun the car, and then run over it.

00:42:26.000 Now I want to understand, and this is from PBS, I want to know, now this is a form of torture, I mean, somebody runs over your livelihood for no reason, is that going to be torture?

00:42:35.000 Psychological warfare?

00:42:36.000 Yes.

00:42:36.000 Play this clip.

00:42:37.000 Play it.

00:42:41.000 There was still some looting going on when we arrived.

00:42:47.000 And when we came across soldiers, they didn't seem sure of their role.

00:42:52.000 That child don't need to be in here. 0.96

00:42:54.000 You know what school is?

00:42:56.000 School is what he needs to be doing, not following you.

00:42:59.000 We filmed these G.I.s after they caught a group of Iraqis stealing wood. 0.96

00:43:04.000 We try to stop them from looting, they don't understand, so we take their car and we crush it.

00:43:09.000 The United States Army tank is full. 0.89

00:43:11.000 Now they shoot it.

00:43:19.000 No reason to do that. 0.93

00:43:20.000 Just pure, blunt destruction.

00:43:23.000 Enjoying it.

00:43:23.000 Now they light it up and they drive over it and aim for it.

00:43:25.000 And back and back over it.

00:43:26.000 It's real funny that the people stand there crying.

00:43:35.000 These guys will be cops on the streets of America within a year.

00:43:50.000 That's what you get when you loot.

00:43:53.000 Later, the car's owner told us, I'm a taxi driver.

00:43:57.000 The car was my livelihood.

00:44:00.000 Okay, the so-called federal outing police officer program of Bill Clinton, we went from 400,000 to 500-plus thousand in his eight years.

00:44:10.000 Now under Bush, they've added another 80,000 police.

00:44:14.000 They're going under federal control, and what this is is a program that when the people leave the military, they go right into policing.

00:44:21.000 And they call us civilians, and so you're all going to be dealing with these lunatics Very, very soon on your own street.

00:44:30.000 You wonder why they shoot an old lady three times in the chest and tase her. 0.92

00:44:33.000 You wonder why they tase their old ladies five times. 0.98

00:44:36.000 You wonder why they shoot pregnant women who have their hands up. 0.95

00:44:40.000 Because it is just one killer instinct that's been drilled into these people, and we're all the enemy.

00:44:47.000 When you have a militarized police, they're no longer peace officers, they're the military to kill people and break things, and they're here, and if they're a military force, they gotta be fighting an enemy, don't they?

00:44:57.000 And you're it!

00:44:58.000 You and your family are it!

00:45:01.000 And so the torture is accelerating in the prisons, in the jails.

00:45:05.000 It's horrible.

00:45:06.000 I've got reports every couple days on this, confirmed, admitted reports.

00:45:11.000 But the neocons are in total denial.

00:45:13.000 That is the neocon listeners.

00:45:16.000 There is no plan for a national draft.

00:45:18.000 The torture doesn't exist.

00:45:20.000 Or, well, you know, we've got to get tough, so what?

00:45:24.000 It runs the gamut.

00:45:25.000 Or, oh, it's just lack of training.

00:45:29.000 Or it's not torture, it's just abuse, and so what?

00:45:32.000 You know, these are terrorists.

00:45:33.000 Turns out, government's own report, it's a 70 to 90 percent.

00:45:37.000 I'd just say 80 percent.

00:45:38.000 I'd just, you know, grab the middle number.

00:45:41.000 Seventy to ninety percent are totally innocent.

00:45:43.000 You're at a checkpoint, don't have your ID in order, and you're taken to the base, and your children and wife are taken, and your wife and children are beaten and raped in front of you.

00:45:53.000 This is the government's own report, and I'm on talk shows reading the government's own reports.

00:46:00.000 And people are saying it isn't true.

00:46:02.000 I had a talk show host go, you believe in space aliens? 1.00

00:46:04.000 You're a nut! 1.00

00:46:05.000 You're making it all up! 1.00

00:46:07.000 As I post the Army's own reports and Reuters and AP and the Australian and BBC, you're living in total denial!

00:46:16.000 This is torture!

00:46:18.000 They were ordered to do this!

00:46:20.000 This is because of their training, not lack of training!

00:46:24.000 And you notice in that PBS special, oh, because of lack of training, they run over cars with tanks.

00:46:29.000 They were ordered to do that!

00:46:31.000 They said that if one person steals something, or one person doesn't show respect to our passing military, they grab them and take them to the facilities.

00:46:40.000 If you're caught selling stuff on the side of the road, tangerines, dates, without a license, you're taken to these camps.

00:46:46.000 That's the Associated Press a year ago.

00:46:51.000 If one person does something wrong in a town, if there's a protest, they will bulldoze all their crops, 100, 200 year old trees, they will arrest all the men!

00:47:00.000 This is admitted!

00:47:00.000 They've been bragging about it!

00:47:02.000 Selling it to you! 0.86

00:47:03.000 And then it happens, and you see it happening, and you try to deny it's going on!

00:47:07.000 If we as a people do not rebuke this, and stand up against this, this will all come back to haunt us and our families, you reap what you sow, And this will destroy America.

00:47:18.000 The bigger story than the torture is the way that the people in this media are trying to spin it and say it's good.

00:47:26.000 And I mean the fake leftists and the fake right-wingers in these fake debates they're having. 0.95

00:47:32.000 It's just sick! 0.96

00:47:34.000 Let's go to Roy in Michigan.

00:47:35.000 Roy, go ahead.

00:47:36.000 Yeah, the real scary thing about this whole thing is that I've talked to quite a few people and they're in agreement.

00:47:42.000 They've accepted it so quickly.

00:47:45.000 You know, they just started this year, just in the last couple weeks.

00:47:48.000 Hey, long before this came out, every day, every day I mention, because it's so important.

00:47:53.000 Why is Threat Matrix on ABC?

00:47:55.000 Why is 24 on Fox?

00:47:56.000 Why is NYPD Blue?

00:47:58.000 Why on all these shows do they torture people?

00:48:01.000 Why is torture shown as good in every episode that I've seen?

00:48:05.000 That's mass programming!

00:48:07.000 So in the fiction they're telling us it's good, and in the newspaper they're telling us it's good.

00:48:11.000 Bumsfeld's been on TV advocating this!

00:48:13.000 He gave the orders!

00:48:15.000 go ahead well i thought you know what i just got back neighbors your 0.99

00:48:20.000 sicko demonic joseph mengele nazi neighbors have to say when you talk to them 0.99

00:48:25.000 well i have trouble with even probably other ways to take a do the torture 0.98

00:48:30.000 with the way barbara a and see what's they've accepted it then they come out chief older just beaten and that's

00:48:35.000 acceptable then it comes out

00:48:36.000 all of their children to well i guess it's all right i mean the magic i'm actually took normal people

00:48:42.000 and the space of a few years have been praising the right of women

00:48:47.000 the torture of children i have to move a bit cold but that if you're going to do it

00:48:53.000 for Well, look what they did to the towers.

00:48:55.000 Like, they're the individuals.

00:48:56.000 I know, I've heard these. 1.00

00:48:57.000 Our government, illegitimate sections of the government did this, you fools! 0.99

00:49:01.000 Oh, anything else, Roy? 0.99

00:49:03.000 I want to answer his question from earlier.

00:49:05.000 No, but I just want to think that fortifying what you just said a few minutes ago is whatever seed that is sown is what's going to be reaped, and I'm telling you, it's coming here.

00:49:15.000 It didn't come in here, sir.

00:49:18.000 It went from here, over there, put Saddam in power, told him to do all this, and we're just taking back what's the globalist, and they're just doing what they always did. 0.88

00:49:26.000 Thanks for the call.

00:49:27.000 We had advisors over there helping torture people for eight years during the Iran-Iraq war!

00:49:32.000 Giving them the nerve gas, mounting it on the helicopters!

00:49:38.000 Oh, that's sick. 0.98

00:49:39.000 The guy was asking about, you know, creating this big Muslim threat. 0.99

00:49:42.000 Yeah, The Washington Post reported three years ago that hundreds of thousands, excuse me, millions of radical Hadiths kill America, kill all the infidels. 1.00

00:49:52.000 Iraq wasn't an Islamic Republic.

00:49:54.000 The new constitution they're giving them makes it an Islamic Republic.

00:49:58.000 They fund all the radical Muslim groups. 0.98

00:50:00.000 They created Al-Qaeda. 0.96

00:50:01.000 They created Hamas. 0.99

00:50:02.000 It's all admitted.

00:50:03.000 They create the crisis.

00:50:05.000 They create the Hitlers.

00:50:06.000 They create the Stalins. 1.00

00:50:08.000 Then they take your freedoms in the name of fighting it.

00:50:11.000 So they answer the officer, the military man's question, the officer's question from earlier.

00:50:17.000 So just stop being naive.

00:50:18.000 Yes, I've heard the sickos.

00:50:20.000 I mean, I've actually started crying, people, getting a tear in my eye, because I realize what this means, the death of America.

00:50:28.000 When I've been on the exercise bike, listening to the radio, or listening to television, because you know, I have a Walkman that listens to television.

00:50:34.000 When I'm in my car, I mean, I hear this, I just get sick.

00:50:37.000 I'll get in my car feeling good.

00:50:39.000 By the end of it, I'm just hunched over the steering wheel.

00:50:42.000 Just, just... Because I've got a conscience.

00:50:45.000 I'm just a normal person.

00:50:47.000 I'm not even that good of a person.

00:50:49.000 And it scares me. 0.99

00:50:51.000 You are sickos. 0.99

00:50:52.000 I know you're listening out there. 1.00

00:50:53.000 You are filth who think this is good. 0.98

00:50:55.000 Let me tell you something. 0.99

00:50:56.000 It's going to come back on you.

00:50:58.000 You understand?

00:50:58.000 And nobody's going to protect you when it happens to you.

00:51:00.000 You fools! 1.00

00:51:02.000 You have released Satan upon your family! 1.00

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00:54:02.000 You know, a few years ago, I began to warn you that a key indicator of the globalists

00:54:19.000 preparing another stage terror attack would be...

00:54:22.000 Letting people repudiate the Patriot Act, then saying, you better get by the Patriot Act or you're going to help the terrorists.

00:54:28.000 Then when they carry out a terror attack, oh see, shut up, don't complain, you help the terrorists.

00:54:33.000 I said that they would bring out the torture, let there be a scandal.

00:54:36.000 I don't know how I foresee this stuff, I just got a handle on it.

00:54:41.000 It's painful, though.

00:54:43.000 And so, now there could be a terror attack, and see, torture's good! 0.98

00:54:48.000 I really see things getting very serious very quickly.

00:54:52.000 Very soon.

00:54:54.000 This is all staged.

00:54:55.000 None of this happened by accident. 1.00

00:54:57.000 And to hear, to know there's so many sick psychopaths, who if their son or daughter was kidnapped and raped, they would be angry. 0.99

00:55:05.000 But what happens to other people, it's good, they love it. 0.99

00:55:08.000 I've heard you. 0.97

00:55:10.000 You're so evil. 0.67

00:55:12.000 And you know, we should be hurt by this. 0.96

00:55:14.000 This should be painful for our psyche.

00:55:17.000 And a normal person who isn't coarse and rough and who still has a tender pink soul should just be horrified by this. 0.98

00:55:27.000 But for the black-hearted devils, the anti-Christ Christians out there, the clones of the devil who think they're Christian, the deceived ones, the drones, the zombies, they love it. 1.00

00:55:39.000 They rejoice in it. 1.00

00:55:40.000 They rejoice in wickedness.

00:55:43.000 And it's just so sick.

00:55:46.000 To hear the neocons and the so-called Christian broadcasters even praising this. 0.73

00:55:51.000 Let's go, I mean, this is sick.

00:55:53.000 I'm even amazed.

00:55:55.000 Let's talk to John, then Charles, Rhonda, and Larry and others.

00:56:01.000 Go ahead, John.

00:56:02.000 Hi, Alex.

00:56:04.000 Hello.

00:56:04.000 Looks like we're entering the new days of the Roman Empire, fun days at the Coliseum, huh?

00:56:09.000 Yeah, I guess what they did to Jesus was good, you know? 0.99

00:56:11.000 I mean, torturing people's good.

00:56:14.000 You know, these people, these talk show hosts and the people that back them, when you go back and study the history of governments gone bad, most of their avid followers ended up suffering themselves.

00:56:23.000 I mean, look at the French Revolution.

00:56:25.000 How many of their leaders and their followers ended up on a guillotine themselves?

00:56:28.000 Well, the followers of Hitler, how many did Hitler kill himself?

00:56:32.000 The followers of Lenin, how many of the followers of Lenin ended up in concentration camps themselves?

00:56:36.000 Or Castro, when Castro came to power, he killed and imprisoned a lot of his followers.

00:56:42.000 Yeah, Kong, they ended up in re-education camps when the North Vietnamese took over.

00:56:46.000 These people can't see that.

00:56:50.000 They love it.

00:56:51.000 They associate.

00:56:52.000 They've invested in George W. They've invested in the Democratic Party.

00:56:56.000 And John Kerry, his cousin, and Coffin made it skull and bones.

00:57:00.000 And they get off on it.

00:57:02.000 I mean, they talk about it like they're with Bush.

00:57:04.000 And they're part of making the decisions.

00:57:05.000 And I support it.

00:57:07.000 I think it's good.

00:57:08.000 We've got to be tough.

00:57:10.000 Then you face them with raping women and children and they'll deny it and go, okay, well it's true, so what? 0.99

00:57:18.000 I mean, that's sick, folks. 0.99

00:57:20.000 You know, Alex, those people don't understand it.

00:57:23.000 In the threat column there for Homeland Security, code red is martial law.

00:57:29.000 That's military rule in this country.

00:57:31.000 Uh, that's admitted.

00:57:32.000 They've had FEMA say that, you know.

00:57:34.000 And if people ended up being rounded up, or their sons and daughters rounded up and put into a FEMA camp, guess who's going to be running the camp?

00:57:40.000 And Newsmax and everybody else has reported they've built three one million man camps.

00:57:44.000 They're doing it all.

00:57:45.000 And guess who's going to be running those camps? 1.00

00:57:48.000 These same psychopathic goons. 0.99

00:57:51.000 That's right. 0.98

00:57:53.000 And by the way, you don't have to be a patriot or a conservative for them to come after you or a liberal.

00:57:57.000 You've got to have a business they want.

00:57:59.000 I mean, that's what this is all about.

00:58:01.000 You know, some local constabulary.

00:58:02.000 This is all about money-making and power. 1.00

00:58:05.000 These poor fools. 1.00

00:58:07.000 Poor, poor fools. 1.00

00:58:09.000 And they're going to wake up, I think, the hard way. 1.00

00:58:11.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

00:58:12.000 You bet.

00:58:12.000 We live in a bloodthirsty country of 50 million abortions, my friends.

00:58:16.000 You think you're safe.

00:58:17.000 You think torture's good. 0.99

00:58:19.000 You've got a devil in your heart.

00:58:21.000 Probably got a whole pack of them in there. 0.92

00:58:23.000 We'll, uh, we'll break.

00:58:26.000 And we'll come back and start the second hour, and I'm going to get into the news directly for about 10-15 minutes, then we'll go right back to all the calls.

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00:58:38.000 I want to hear from you.

00:58:39.000 Do you think this torture is good?

00:58:40.000 Or do you want to say, well, we've helped Iraq overall.

00:58:44.000 The end justifies the means. 0.88

00:58:45.000 You know, some more of your sick moral relativism. 0.66

00:58:49.000 Give us a call. 0.97

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01:00:26.000 We're here, my friends.

01:00:27.000 We've been talking about torture in the last hour.

01:00:31.000 Be admitted.

01:00:31.000 Confirmed.

01:00:32.000 Mainstream.

01:00:33.000 Reuters.

01:00:33.000 AP.

01:00:34.000 Army Reports.

01:00:35.000 Raping of women. 0.98

01:00:36.000 Torture of children. 1.00

01:00:37.000 And rape of children in front of their parents. 0.72

01:00:41.000 80 to 90 percent, or 70 to 90 percent, depending on the government document here.

01:00:47.000 That's what it says.

01:00:48.000 79 percent of the people with these presents being totally innocent just picked up at checkpoints randomly. 0.65

01:00:55.000 Just amazing, sickening neocon saying the torture's good.

01:00:59.000 It runs the gamut from the torture's good to, oh, it's just a mistake, they were just having fun.

01:01:04.000 President Bush's rating hits a low.

01:01:09.000 President Bush's approval rating dropped to the lowest of his presidency in a poll taken after a week of revelations about abuses of Iraq prisoners and questions about whether Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld should keep his job.

01:01:23.000 Doesn't matter if it's Kerry or Bush or Rumsfeld or the Easter Bunny.

01:01:27.000 This is the establishment. 0.94

01:01:29.000 They're just puppets.

01:01:30.000 You can forget the debate.

01:01:32.000 46% of Americans approved of Bush's job performance in the U.S.

01:01:37.000 of today.

01:01:37.000 CNN Gallup poll released Monday.

01:01:39.000 That's a 3 percentage points lower than the 49% in late January, early March, and last week.

01:01:45.000 A majority said they disapproved of the handling of the Iraq and the economy.

01:01:49.000 So you can keep telling us how good the economy is all day.

01:01:54.000 It's not getting better. 0.98

01:01:56.000 And I've just got the Australian here, the Associated Press here, all these articles, MSNBC report, and they just bury it in here that, oh, by the way, they're raping women and children. 0.90

01:02:07.000 Of course, the Army report of last week, Brigadier General Antonio Tugunda admits all of this, but still we're in denial.

01:02:17.000 But then as people are forced to admit it, I've heard them shift to, oh, what's the big deal?

01:02:22.000 You now have the mind and the spirit out there, neocons, of serial killers.

01:02:30.000 Literally, this is the stuff serial killers do.

01:02:32.000 And you're now psychologically partaking of it.

01:02:35.000 You're now right up there with Charlie Manson.

01:02:39.000 And I'm serious.

01:02:40.000 That's how quick your mind was warped.

01:02:42.000 So don't shake your finger at the Nazis.

01:02:44.000 This is how quickly they were warped.

01:02:46.000 Doing it for the fatherland, the homeland, they were told.

01:02:49.000 And the Nazis kept it secret, by the way. 0.79

01:02:51.000 Here in America, we don't do that.

01:02:53.000 We come out and say it's a good thing.

01:02:56.000 Or it was just lack of training. 0.65

01:02:58.000 So, again, when somebody kidnaps somebody in your family and rapes and kills them, beats them to death, they'll just say it was lack of training.

01:03:05.000 But I wanted to read just a little blurb out of an article from Friday from MSNBC.

01:03:10.000 Bush stands by his Defense Secretary, President to visit Pentagon amid more scrutiny of Iraq abuses. 0.98

01:03:17.000 Deep in the article, it says more repercussions, more revelations, and they admit in here that, oh, raping women, beating people to death, and raping children. 0.97

01:03:32.000 And then they just calmly say it in here. 0.95

01:03:34.000 Why that isn't the headline, I don't know.

01:03:38.000 And the soldiers are saying they were ordered by their generals and CIA operatives and civilian contractors who said, make it hell!

01:03:47.000 And it said they would bring in one of the several prisoners at the time already hooded and cuffed.

01:03:53.000 The officer said the job of the military police was to keep them awake, make it hell, so they would talk.

01:03:59.000 And here in this article they just have a little blurb about that.

01:04:02.000 Oh, you know, we're going to do this.

01:04:04.000 And here it is in the Associated Press.

01:04:06.000 Reuters, the Australian, naked chair, dogs sat on, inmates.

01:04:15.000 Bush showed abuse photos at Pentagon briefing and said that he was disgusted by them.

01:04:20.000 But his surrogates are all out saying it's no big deal and watching him and Cheney waddle out and act like they're upset.

01:04:28.000 And then judges reporting, Pentagon possesses three discs of photos, one of which includes a photo of soldiers sodomizing prisoners with glow sticks.

01:04:38.000 Many of the photos are redundant and some Have little to do with Iraq detainees, but show sex between U.S.

01:04:44.000 soldiers. 0.81

01:04:46.000 So just a, just a, just, just a, just a mass orgy of wickedness.

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01:08:07.000 If we do not repudiate and rebuke this government for training the world how to torture, For the last 50 years, hiring the Nazis to train our troops at Fort Benning, Georgia. 0.65

01:08:22.000 If we don't do this, it's all going to come back on us.

01:08:26.000 Let me cover some more news.

01:08:29.000 Arizona Daily Star reporting on a Red Cross report reports 70-90% held in error in Iraq.

01:08:39.000 Some 70% to 90% of Iraq detainees were arrested by mistake, according to Coalition Intelligence.

01:08:45.000 Officers cited in a Red Cross report disclosed yesterday.

01:08:50.000 The report also said U.S.

01:08:51.000 officers mistreated inmates at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison by keeping them naked in totally dark, empty cells.

01:09:00.000 Again, they always minimize with the slightest thing.

01:09:03.000 Oh, they beat him up.

01:09:04.000 They punched him.

01:09:05.000 Oh, they did this.

01:09:06.000 And then in the back of the paper, oh, by the way, they torture people's children in front of them.

01:09:10.000 Abuse of Iraqi prisoners.

01:09:11.000 Abuse?

01:09:11.000 I thought it was torture.

01:09:13.000 Was widespread and routine, the report finds.

01:09:16.000 Contrary to President Bush's contention that the mistreatment was the wrongdoing of a few.

01:09:21.000 Rumsfeld was on TV!

01:09:22.000 I wish... I need to get a bunch of interns into my office. 1.00

01:09:25.000 I've got just hundreds of VHS tapes I taped during the war.

01:09:28.000 When he was on TV bragging about pressuring and torturing and how good it is.

01:09:32.000 I mean, come on!

01:09:32.000 You all saw him!

01:09:34.000 This is hidden in plain view.

01:09:35.000 They're just counting on you to rationalize.

01:09:38.000 While many detainees were quickly released, high-ranking officials in Saddam Hussein's government, including those listed on the U.S.

01:09:43.000 military deck of cards, were held for months in solitary confinement.

01:09:47.000 See, oh, it's just the deck of cards.

01:09:48.000 Wait a minute.

01:09:49.000 They've hired most of the top generals, most of the torture masters, to run things.

01:09:54.000 They run some of the prisons. 0.99

01:09:55.000 It's Iraqi guards under civilian contract orders raping these children because they can't even get our own sicko jail guards to do it. 0.95

01:10:04.000 They admit they got Chalibi, the head torture guy for the Shaw, who worked for British Intelligence, running Baghdad! 0.97

01:10:16.000 Ah, see the spin here?

01:10:19.000 Red Cross delegates saw U.S.

01:10:21.000 military intelligence officers mistreating prisoners under interrogation in Abu Ghraib and collecting allegations of abuse at more than ten other detention facilities, including the military intelligence section at Camp Cropper.

01:10:33.000 Uh, at Baghdad International Airport and the Tikrit holding area, according to the report.

01:10:39.000 24-page document, cites abuses, some tantamount to torture, including brutality, hooding, humiliation, and threats of execution.

01:10:46.000 Oh yeah, they just ship out the dead bodies every day that die of natural causes, packed in ice with fake IVs in their arm.

01:10:54.000 Here's the Associated Press, may have heard of it.

01:10:56.000 A general told military police to soften up prisoners and again they were ordered to torture them.

01:11:02.000 That's the Associated Press.

01:11:05.000 I got stacks of these.

01:11:06.000 I'm going to go back over some of these later.

01:11:09.000 Read the Australian.

01:11:10.000 Read the AP. 0.98

01:11:11.000 Read MSNBC where they said, our troops raping women. 0.99

01:11:15.000 And ordering Iraqi guards, who'd been there before doing it, to rape, let me say this again, CHILDREN! 1.00

01:11:21.000 How do you get your sick, neokind, uh, neocon, uh, demon-possessed brain around that? 1.00

01:11:29.000 You sick filth, you know who you are out there, you know who you are. 1.00

01:11:33.000 I've heard you calling in, you people are the most weak-minded filth I've ever imagined. 1.00

01:11:38.000 Make me sick! 1.00

01:11:39.000 Make me shamed! 1.00

01:11:41.000 People like you are giving this country a bad name, you trash! 1.00

01:11:44.000 You yuppie trash! 1.00

01:11:48.000 Markets falter amid fears over U.S. 1.00

01:11:51.000 rate rises.

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01:12:00.000 interest rates and a showdown in the world economy.

01:12:04.000 Share prices have tumbled in response to Friday's strong U.S.

01:12:07.000 employment data.

01:12:08.000 Yeah, right.

01:12:09.000 As you go off the unemployment rolls, they go, oh look, more people are off unemployment.

01:12:13.000 Widely seen as bringing forward the expected interest rate rise from the Federal Reserve.

01:12:20.000 Okay, um... I got other news on the torture and a bunch of other news, but let's just go to calls, as promised.

01:12:28.000 Uh, let's go ahead and talk to... I guess, uh, Charlie in Pennsylvania.

01:12:34.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

01:12:35.000 Alex!

01:12:36.000 Yes, sir.

01:12:37.000 Oh.

01:12:38.000 Gotta get ahold of you.

01:12:39.000 How about some good news?

01:12:40.000 Okay.

01:12:42.000 Well, like Kelly Rushing, I've been passing out your video.

01:12:46.000 And about 18 months ago, we triggered a rather dramatic police state response.

01:12:51.000 At this point, your videos, including 9-1-1 Road to Tyranny, is under the evidence at the level of the Superior Court of the State of Pennsylvania.

01:12:58.000 Right now, I'm writing the appeal to the Supreme Court.

01:13:01.000 Okay, tell me what happened.

01:13:03.000 Oh, out on a construction zone.

01:13:06.000 They were setting you up for like a trap.

01:13:11.000 No warning.

01:13:13.000 Sir, I missed what you said.

01:13:14.000 Your call waiting beeped in.

01:13:16.000 Oh, okay.

01:13:18.000 On the approach, To a construction area without warning, they were stopping people beyond the ridge of a hill.

01:13:28.000 Yeah, that's their favorite thing to do.

01:13:30.000 Yeah, and no proper equipment or anything.

01:13:34.000 There were people that seemed to be trying to cause a rear-end collision at the time.

01:13:39.000 Okay?

01:13:40.000 At the scene, the state trooper committed assault and battery on camera in front of a witness, refused To cooperate to bring the witnesses to the court.

01:13:54.000 At the level of the magistrate... Okay, how does my video tie into this?

01:13:58.000 Oh, that's what's about to happen.

01:14:00.000 At the level of the magistrate, we asked for the information so we could bring the witnesses.

01:14:05.000 The man quoted from your video.

01:14:06.000 He used one of the names of the people in the video.

01:14:10.000 Who did?

01:14:10.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:14:13.000 I'm really confused now, sir.

01:14:15.000 Can you explain?

01:14:16.000 I'm not real smart, but I'm also not that dull.

01:14:19.000 Explain to me what you're saying.

01:14:20.000 Okay.

01:14:21.000 The assisting officer was named Koval.

01:14:23.000 K-O-V-A-L. 1.00

01:14:25.000 At the level of the magistrate, I asked the state trooper what was the name of the assisting officer.

01:14:31.000 He said, Steinheiser.

01:14:32.000 Steinheiser.

01:14:33.000 Okay.

01:14:35.000 That's the name of the FBI agent on your video.

01:14:41.000 He did pick this name out of a hat.

01:14:43.000 Well, that's a common name, sir.

01:14:45.000 But the name was Koval.

01:14:47.000 Why would he switch the names like that?

01:14:50.000 Well, anyway, he realized he committed perjury, so he shut up.

01:14:54.000 He didn't throw it out, but they gave me a new trial.

01:14:57.000 I went to the new trial, and at the level of common pleas, the judge tampered with the evidence, denied me a public trial.

01:15:08.000 Okay, what happened at this checkpoint?

01:15:10.000 Oh, well he claimed that the construction worker was giving signals and we weren't obeying.

01:15:19.000 But all she had was a piece of a stick with a piece of plastic on it and a green t-shirt and a hard hat.

01:15:29.000 She was waving it back and forth.

01:15:31.000 Now she stopped the vehicle behind me.

01:15:34.000 I seen her raise her hand to stop the vehicle behind me, but not me.

01:15:36.000 So all that happened was I go past her, she stops the traffic behind me, he comes out, I pull in to let him by, and then he cites me.

01:15:45.000 Okay, hey listen, thanks for the call, I really appreciate it.

01:15:50.000 Let's go ahead and take another call here.

01:15:52.000 Let's talk to Rhonda in Missouri. 0.66

01:15:54.000 Rhonda, go ahead. 1.00

01:15:55.000 Hi Alex.

01:15:57.000 On our local radio talk show, that was one of the questions, should Rumsfeld go, and I called in and said, well heck no.

01:16:04.000 You know, he's just going by, you know, P-2-O-G? 0.95

01:16:10.000 Yeah, P-2-O-G, to humiliate and kill innocent people, to cause more terror attacks. 1.00

01:16:15.000 Did you repost that, or is that on your website still?

01:16:18.000 Yes, but if you just type P-2-O-G into Google, hundreds of mainstream news articles will pop up about it.

01:16:25.000 Okay.

01:16:26.000 I said, you know, shoot, I expect him to get knighted by the Queen for long.

01:16:30.000 You know, he's just going right along.

01:16:32.000 He's just doing what he's told.

01:16:34.000 I was watching just a little bit ago, you were talking about the Army Investigation Report by the Brigadier General.

01:16:40.000 Is he on television right now?

01:16:41.000 He was.

01:16:42.000 I taped it.

01:16:43.000 Oh, listen, I get so busy I forget to do... Will you please mail that to me?

01:16:47.000 Yes.

01:16:48.000 You have a VHS?

01:16:49.000 Yes.

01:16:49.000 Oh, promise me you'll mail it.

01:16:51.000 I'll mail it, I promise.

01:16:52.000 Now again, this came out last...

01:16:55.000 Tuesday this report came out. 0.98

01:16:57.000 I've been on talk shows and been accused of being a liar because it admits raping women. 0.59

01:17:02.000 And they just say it doesn't exist when it's public.

01:17:05.000 What do you say to that?

01:17:06.000 They actually admitted it right on C-SPAN.

01:17:09.000 One of the Democratic Senators read the actual allegations of the chemical wife.

01:17:16.000 It's not allegations.

01:17:17.000 His report says they confessed.

01:17:19.000 Exactly.

01:17:19.000 I'm sorry.

01:17:21.000 It's hard to fight the brainflame.

01:17:23.000 This is the nomenclature.

01:17:24.000 Allegation.

01:17:25.000 Abuse.

01:17:26.000 It isn't allegations and it isn't abuse.

01:17:28.000 It's torture.

01:17:29.000 Go ahead.

01:17:30.000 Of the broomsticks. 0.99

01:17:31.000 Even the sexual abuse and the rape. 0.88

01:17:33.000 Oh, you've got to send me that video. 0.77

01:17:35.000 That was right on.

01:17:36.000 What amazed me was when they were talking about responsibility and the woman general who was initially in charge of that prison and some other prisons.

01:17:47.000 This particular, this was the only prison under her command where these types of things was going on, these severity types of things was going on.

01:17:55.000 And it just so happened to be the same prison where these, this general from Guantanamo Bay came over last fall, and all these things just happened to coincide, and this colonel came in, and I was amazed that this investigative brigadier general, I can't think, he's got a funny name there, but... Antonio Chigumba.

01:18:14.000 He actually said, He said, yeah, she actually complained.

01:18:19.000 One of the Senators said she's complaining that her command was severed by this Colonel coming in and saying he's in charge.

01:18:28.000 That's right!

01:18:28.000 She wasn't even allowed into these sections of the prisons.

01:18:32.000 That's why they're scapegoating her. 0.99

01:18:34.000 It's totally scapegoating.

01:18:35.000 I mean, and this investigative general actually said, And she had the nerve to complain about it.

01:18:42.000 You know, he basically said, she actually complained in her report about it, so therefore she's got to be held accountable.

01:18:48.000 It was like, how dare her complain about it?

01:18:50.000 No, I've seen them say, oh, she shows evidence of herself because she complained about it. 0.99

01:18:55.000 See, that shows she knew.

01:18:56.000 That shows she don't follow chain of command. 0.95

01:18:59.000 That shows she don't go along with the world.

01:19:01.000 I've heard them on the news saying that.

01:19:02.000 So therefore, she's got to be punished.

01:19:07.000 The civilian contractors ran the wings of the prisoners.

01:19:10.000 It's clear.

01:19:12.000 It's admitted.

01:19:12.000 It's not debatable.

01:19:14.000 No, but this colonel was in charge of the facility.

01:19:17.000 He's in charge of the facility, the administration of it, the... And he's the guy that took over from regular General Bacchus, who refused to torture people.

01:19:26.000 Exactly.

01:19:27.000 But see, the media isn't bringing that up or discussing that.

01:19:30.000 I brought it up on our local show.

01:19:31.000 I said, look, General Bacchus, He resigned from Guantanamo Bay exactly because he couldn't stomach the torture anymore.

01:19:41.000 What did they say to that?

01:19:42.000 Of course, they're neocons, you know, but I ain't going to give up on them.

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01:24:02.000 alex jones on the gcn radio network alright we got paul watson coming up with this week's

01:24:10.000 report More of your calls.

01:24:11.000 I haven't even scratched the surface on some of the news.

01:24:15.000 Rhonda, I talked to you during the break.

01:24:17.000 You're going to send me that video of this General this morning that we have as a report on the website from last week.

01:24:23.000 But the denial, you said you called into the talk show host and brought up some points that are public.

01:24:30.000 And it's the same thing.

01:24:31.000 They'll just deny it exists, say you're a liar, hang up on you.

01:24:35.000 Or they'll come out and say, yeah, it's a good thing.

01:24:39.000 So early on they said, oh, it's all good.

01:24:42.000 So they're not going to admit they're wrong now.

01:24:44.000 They're just going to keep saying it's all good.

01:24:48.000 Please continue.

01:24:49.000 I even told them a month ago about how the torture in the sitcoms and how they were legitimizing torture way before this became an item.

01:25:01.000 You know, they're in denial, and we all are to a certain extent.

01:25:05.000 We all was, until I finally woke up, thanks to you.

01:25:09.000 But I had to pray.

01:25:10.000 I had to pray to my Heavenly Father to please tell me the truth.

01:25:14.000 I really wanted to know.

01:25:16.000 And with that knowledge comes a great responsibility then.

01:25:19.000 And it was funny, I was telling you during the break, that right after I prayed, I mean, I actually asked specifically, I mean, aren't we supposed to be specific with our prayers?

01:25:29.000 I don't specifically know the truth of what's going on in the world.

01:25:31.000 And I picked you up on a radio station that I can't pick you up on today.

01:25:36.000 And that's how I found you.

01:25:39.000 And I call them this talk show, and they make fun of me, and they call me names, and I'm, you know, always negative.

01:25:47.000 And I said, you know what?

01:25:48.000 I keep calling them because I'm not negative, because I have a great faith in the American people.

01:25:53.000 And I have a great faith that most people really do want to know the truth.

01:25:57.000 When they were being negative about Saddam and his rape rooms and torture rooms, you know, you didn't call in and say you're being negative.

01:26:04.000 We have to face the truth!

01:26:06.000 Yeah, there's just total denial.

01:26:08.000 And I expect that, you know, getting to the truth is a process.

01:26:12.000 And like you said earlier, you had to break down and cry.

01:26:16.000 After I found you and started really knowing the truth, I had to break down and cry.

01:26:19.000 But then comes a great strength after that.

01:26:22.000 You know, the truth will set you free.

01:26:25.000 And that is so true.

01:26:28.000 You know, you said you wonder how you predict all these things because you look at the constants.

01:26:32.000 The constants, they do things consistently.

01:26:36.000 Yeah, they do what psychopathic killers do. 0.51

01:26:38.000 And you learn to read that.

01:26:40.000 And there are millions that do that.

01:26:42.000 I'm going to put you on hold, Rhonda, because I want to ask you one more question about that General's testimony that you videotaped today that I forgot to tape this morning that you're going to mail me.

01:26:50.000 So I'll put you on hold and I'll talk to you in just a few minutes.

01:26:52.000 Thanks for your call and thanks for your kind words because I know we have millions of listeners and I know it's a great responsibility.

01:27:00.000 And I do the best job I can.

01:27:01.000 The difference between us is we face the facts, we face the documents, we face the legislation, we try to tell the truth, we try to do the best job we can.

01:27:09.000 Do we make occasional mistakes?

01:27:11.000 Yes, we all do.

01:27:12.000 But overall, we're just telling it like it is.

01:27:14.000 We don't try to lie to you like the mainstream media, or try to spin, or try to sell you evil. 1.00

01:27:20.000 Let me tell you something, raping women and raping children is pure evil. 0.99

01:27:25.000 I don't care what you neocons say or what you do to us because we say it's bad. 1.00

01:27:28.000 We know you're killers. 1.00

01:27:30.000 We know you love death. 1.00

01:27:31.000 We know you're satanists. 0.83

01:27:32.000 We understand that.

01:27:33.000 We stand against you.

01:27:34.000 We've got somebody a lot more powerful than you've got on our side.

01:27:38.000 Let's go ahead and go to Larry.

01:27:42.000 Larry, where are you calling us from?

01:27:43.000 I'm calling from Arizona, Alex.

01:27:45.000 Welcome.

01:27:46.000 Thanks.

01:27:48.000 Really appreciate what you're doing too, Alex.

01:27:49.000 Listening to those neocons yesterday was really making me mad.

01:27:55.000 If you listen to them, it's all the fault of Dan Rather and Wolf Blitzer.

01:28:02.000 Well, yeah, they have Hillary ask the tough questions, and they're good questions, but because it's Hillary, we all know Hillary's bad. 0.95

01:28:10.000 Oh, so it must be a left-wing plot when Bill Clinton helped train the world how to torture.

01:28:15.000 They're just puppets, so these puppets have fights with each other, and then inside that political polarization, people have invested in Bush, so, oh, torture must be good now.

01:28:25.000 It must be conservative.

01:28:26.000 Open borders must be good, because Bush is for it.

01:28:28.000 Assault weapons bans must be good, because Bush is for it. 0.68

01:28:32.000 That's all for that.

01:28:32.000 Hillary was for this war.

01:28:34.000 Go ahead.

01:28:35.000 Thanks, Alex.

01:28:36.000 Anything else?

01:28:37.000 Yes.

01:28:37.000 Somebody recently let me borrow a book, and this book is as much evil as we're talking about today.

01:28:45.000 This is even worse.

01:28:46.000 It's so hard to believe.

01:28:47.000 I wonder if you've ever heard of this book.

01:28:48.000 It's called Transformation of America.

01:28:51.000 I can't confirm that book, but the evidence shows that at least some of it is truthful.

01:28:59.000 Okay, because... And so yeah, if you believe that book, I mean, I'm sure Dick Cheney's very upset about the torture.

01:29:07.000 Well, according to this book... And police investigations were able, independently, in separate cases, to confirm a lot of what's in that book.

01:29:16.000 Okay, well, just to let the listeners know, what this book is about is about an MKUltra survivor, a CIA mind control slave.

01:29:25.000 Yeah, it's pretty horrific.

01:29:26.000 Thanks for the call.

01:29:29.000 We have the Senate Reports online control.

01:29:31.000 I don't have to go to somebody's book.

01:29:33.000 It's admitted.

01:29:35.000 The particulars of the book, though, some of it I can't document, so I don't cover it.

01:29:39.000 We only cover what we can document.

01:29:42.000 Okay, we'll come back with more of your calls, more news.

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01:33:13.000 Once you start accepting evil, once you get on talk radio or get in the newspaper and say, well, you know, it'll save the life of our troops if somebody knows where a bomb's at.

01:33:22.000 You know, the government's been out there saying this.

01:33:25.000 This is kind of their favorite story.

01:33:27.000 We've got to torture somebody to save, you know, a hundred troops' lives.

01:33:30.000 Shouldn't we do it?

01:33:31.000 The point is, to find somebody who will torture, they're going to have an appetite for it.

01:33:35.000 And they're going to go after innocent people, and you can't believe the stuff you get from somebody you've tortured.

01:33:39.000 I mean, come on, the Nazis were for torture.

01:33:41.000 And see, now it's children, it's women. 1.00

01:33:44.000 And these people have committed themselves, invested in torture.

01:33:47.000 I mean the minions, not the people doing it.

01:33:49.000 The people doing it love it.

01:33:50.000 And so now they're going to say torture's good.

01:33:53.000 And they've got all the TV shows to condition them that it is good.

01:33:57.000 Let's go to Paul Joseph Watson, then we'll go to Dave, and Dora, and Fred, and Gabe, and Rodney, and many, many others.

01:34:04.000 When you hear a caller hang up, you can hear a caller conclude their call.

01:34:09.000 You can call us at 1-800-259-9231.

01:34:12.000 Paul, there's a whole plethora of news I want to go over.

01:34:18.000 I know you've got some news you want to cover.

01:34:20.000 What are the top five stories that you think are the most important today?

01:34:26.000 Well, obviously, we're going to be talking about torture again.

01:34:29.000 Also, the shredding of the 9-11 tapes, and a few Big Brother developments.

01:34:36.000 Launch into it for me, my compadre!

01:34:39.000 Well, you were talking about, just a couple of minutes ago, how the justification for all this is that, you know, these people are terrorists.

01:34:45.000 These people tortured American troops at the beginning of the war last year.

01:34:50.000 And all the focus has been on the people that did this, while little focus has been on the actual Iraqis who are being tortured.

01:34:57.000 And who are they?

01:34:59.000 Well, on Friday, it emerged that a 12-year-old girl was stripped and beaten.

01:35:04.000 So, I mean, the question is... I found an article where they're beating four-year-olds in front of their parents.

01:35:10.000 So why are children being taken to concentration camps?

01:35:13.000 Because the people in these camps, the vast majority, have no links to any of these insurgent groups and haven't even... The Red Cross, from an official Army report, 70-90% held in error, and they describe a family being pulled over, oh your papers aren't in order, so they snatch the father, three children, and the mother, and then have a lot of fun with them.

01:35:35.000 Well, yeah.

01:35:35.000 Made in error.

01:35:37.000 The arrest supposedly made by mistake.

01:35:39.000 It's not a mistake, because... I thought we were liberating these people!

01:35:43.000 So, oh, we're saving them by kidnapping families and torturing them!

01:35:47.000 Well, yeah, and the arrests themselves are, you know, they're on the flimsiest of pretexts.

01:35:51.000 The one that you mentioned was Abu Gharib, BBC reported.

01:35:56.000 He was one of the Iraqis in these torture photos.

01:35:59.000 He was arrested because he drove up to a checkpoint and was asked to show his papers, and he didn't have any.

01:36:05.000 You know, asked to show his papers.

01:36:07.000 Where have we heard that before?

01:36:09.000 The new freedoms on a par with that of Hitler Germany. 0.90

01:36:12.000 Which is interesting because they're using the same tactics that Hitler used when he occupied countries like Czechoslovakia.

01:36:20.000 Collective punishment.

01:36:23.000 Just like Fallujah was leveled after the contractors were killed.

01:36:27.000 The Nazis 60 years ago, one of Hitler's right-hand men, Reinhard Heydrich, Was assassinated in Czechoslovakia. 0.95

01:36:35.000 Yeah, the blonde beast! 1.00

01:36:37.000 So in response, the Nazis bombed the entire town, Lodz. 0.89

01:36:41.000 The men were murdered and the women were taken to concentration camps.

01:36:45.000 So not only are they using the same names for military operations, like Operation Iron Hammer, but they're also leveling whole towns after a few people were murdered.

01:36:55.000 Another story, another example of the new breed of freedom A shop owner had his shop raided by troops.

01:37:02.000 They tie his hands behind his back, put a sack on his head and forced him to lay on his belly for six and a half hours.

01:37:09.000 And then he starts whispering prayers and a soldier walks up to him, stands over him and says, quote, Do you want to pray?

01:37:17.000 Pray to me, I am your God.

01:37:19.000 So that's the new breed of liberation in Iraq.

01:37:22.000 And I mean, it gets worse.

01:37:23.000 Just two hours ago AFP reported torturing kittens Now, obviously, human touch is more vulgar, but this just shows the mentality of... Hey, those kittens were known Al-Qaeda officers! 0.52

01:37:36.000 Well, obviously, they're terrorists.

01:37:38.000 They must have hired some of the BATF people.

01:37:40.000 Well, in this case, it was Australian troops, but it shows the mentality of picking on, you know, something even more defenseless than children.

01:37:48.000 Well, hey, are you for... Are you for Al-Qaeda? 0.99

01:37:52.000 Those cats need to have their heads ripped off! 1.00

01:37:55.000 Well, they tied ropes around these kittens' necks, attached them to vehicles and dragged them, you know, from behind on the road, then set them on fire. 0.99

01:38:02.000 Well, that's how you... that's how you win hearts and minds.

01:38:06.000 I mean, look, psychopaths kidnap, they start with animals first, moved up to people, and actually, kidnapping and killing now is just blowing off steam.

01:38:15.000 In fact, let's play that clip again.

01:38:16.000 There's Rush Limbaugh saying what's going on in these prisons is just blowing off steam and having a good time.

01:38:22.000 And so, let's go ahead and play that again.

01:38:26.000 Stephanie, do you have that ready?

01:38:27.000 Oh shoot, Stephanie's answering her phone. 1.00

01:38:32.000 I want to play the Limbaugh clip again please, dear.

01:38:35.000 Here it is.

01:38:37.000 This is Lord Limbaugh.

01:38:40.000 What's psychologically wrong with that?

01:38:42.000 It's not the act so much, it was like a college fraternity prank to stack up naked men and... Exactly!

01:38:50.000 Exactly my point!

01:38:52.000 This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we're going to really hammer them because they had a good time.

01:39:06.000 These people are being fired at every day.

01:39:08.000 I'm talking about people having a good time.

01:39:10.000 These people... You ever heard of emotional release?

01:39:13.000 You ever heard of needing to blow some steam off?

01:39:17.000 With somebody's young daughter. 0.95

01:39:19.000 Uh, now... People think we're taking this out of context.

01:39:22.000 We have, from Limbaugh's site.

01:39:24.000 He's quite proud of this.

01:39:25.000 And CBS News picked up on it.

01:39:28.000 The entire rant, we ought to post that whole thing, gets even worse, Paul.

01:39:32.000 I mean, he elaborates on it.

01:39:35.000 Go ahead.

01:39:36.000 Well, I was on his website the other day, and he's still laughing and joking about it.

01:39:40.000 That's real funny!

01:39:41.000 I mean, you know, torturing near-toddler-aged children is just what good people do?

01:39:47.000 It was actually picked up in a White House press briefing.

01:39:50.000 A reporter asked a question to McClellan.

01:39:54.000 And Limbaugh's response was just to say, I'm just a kid who started a radio show.

01:39:59.000 People shouldn't take any notice of what I'm saying.

01:40:02.000 It's just my opinion.

01:40:03.000 But the people, you know, this is the most popular show... You know, I would think that if I was on the talk radio and I was advocating this, I would think that the police would start investigating me thinking I had dead bodies in my yard, and if they didn't, they should.

01:40:15.000 I think we need to investigate Rush Limbaugh and all these other people.

01:40:20.000 I mean, anybody that'll publicly talk about this type of stuff needs to be investigated.

01:40:25.000 Well, the point is that, obviously, Limbaugh does.

01:40:27.000 Well, I mean, let's talk about this more, Paul.

01:40:29.000 If you had a neighbor that was making jokes about this kind of stuff, would you trust them?

01:40:35.000 Well, no way.

01:40:36.000 But Limbaugh's excuse is that he's just one person who has no influence on anyone else.

01:40:41.000 It's just his opinion.

01:40:42.000 But his own, you know, ditto-heads, as he calls them himself, will go out and, you know, repeat this ad infinitum, because they shape the body politic, basically, of the country. 0.95

01:40:51.000 Because they're ultra-liberals and didn't know it.

01:40:55.000 Yeah, I mean, to say that this is also just neocons saying this, we have to go back to... Alan Dershowitz!

01:41:01.000 Tell us about him!

01:41:02.000 Yeah, I've got the quote in order out of chaos.

01:41:05.000 The so-called, you know, liberal human rights lawyer, who in a speech said, Um, quote, Americans may have to consider ideas as foreign as truth serums and torture warrants when thinking about striking a balance between liberty and security after the terrorist attacks of December 11th.

01:41:22.000 So this is coming from both control arms.

01:41:24.000 It's not just the neocons, it's the liberals too.

01:41:27.000 That's right.

01:41:28.000 So what else is going on, Paul?

01:41:31.000 Well, the point to make is, um, we posted, as I will post, the Tabooga testimony later today from C-SPAN.

01:41:39.000 But on Friday, it was obviously Rumsfeld's testimony from C-SPAN.

01:41:43.000 We posted it, and immediately in the introduction, the chair of the commission, who is a Democrat, immediately goes into this giant worship fest of Rumsfeld himself, and how he's a great leader in the war on terror, and how he could not personally be responsible for any of this, of course.

01:42:01.000 So, of course, we knew right from the start... Paul, I meant to call you and tell you to Google and post it, Can you find the articles?

01:42:10.000 They started two years ago.

01:42:11.000 I've got them on tape, but who has the time to go through all this?

01:42:14.000 We need to get more people in his office.

01:42:16.000 If we had the money, we would.

01:42:18.000 But he was all over the news saying, we're putting pressure on him, we're torturing him, it's good, his surrogates were saying it.

01:42:24.000 We need to put that together, because people aren't understanding.

01:42:27.000 He admitted all of this.

01:42:29.000 This isn't happening in a vacuum.

01:42:31.000 Go ahead.

01:42:32.000 Well, exactly.

01:42:33.000 It's now being reported that this indeed went right to the top, and it was Rumsfeld's directive, the Department of Defense, and that they simply transferred what they were already doing at Guantanamo Bay over to Iraq.

01:42:45.000 Because the stories of torture at Guantanamo only began to emerge after Rick Barker, the former head of the military police there, was sacked or, you know, resigned, whichever you want to look at it.

01:42:59.000 Because Baucus himself was in charge of these interrogation methods.

01:43:03.000 So the others who were trying to get him out ran to the Washington Times, said he was too soft, discredited him, and then he was forced to resign or he was effectively sacked.

01:43:14.000 That was October 2002.

01:43:17.000 And immediately in the media, in the following months, we had reports of torture coming out from Guantanamo because they'd got rid of Bacchus and put their own men in.

01:43:26.000 And by the way, he gave one AP interview and one Rhode Island interview and then was told to shut up.

01:43:32.000 We've talked to him, he won't come on the show now.

01:43:35.000 But he told the AP, he told the Rhode Island radio station.

01:43:38.000 By the way, our affiliate up there ought to get that interview.

01:43:42.000 He said, he said, look, number one, I'm not going to torture people.

01:43:45.000 This is torture.

01:43:46.000 He said, number two, these aren't even Taliban or Al Qaeda, which the LA Times admitted.

01:43:50.000 These are nobodies.

01:43:52.000 Well, yes.

01:43:52.000 So they simply took what they were already doing at Guantanamo and, you know, transferred it to Iraq when that phony war had ended.

01:44:00.000 Then we had reports over a year ago, like one from the London Guardian, Afghan prisoners beaten to death March 2003.

01:44:07.000 So this is not a new story for us, really.

01:44:11.000 Where they, you know, they'd use the exact same tactics, put hoods on them, make them walk around naked, beat them, hook up electrodes.

01:44:18.000 So, I mean, as he mentioned, L.A.

01:44:20.000 Times also reported in August of 2002, no leaders of Al-Qaeda found at Guantanamo.

01:44:26.000 And the investigation said that they were basically shoemakers and farmers.

01:44:31.000 So the same thing with Iraq, with the people that are in these camps now.

01:44:34.000 They're not even criminals, never mind any links to terrorists.

01:44:40.000 I mean, in a country where stealing three sticks of wood gets your car bulldozed and machine gunned, I mean, this is quite a liberation, Paul.

01:44:48.000 Well, it is.

01:44:49.000 It's the new breed of liberation.

01:44:51.000 Torturing kittens is also part of the new democracy, I guess.

01:44:56.000 Yeah, and this new government's being appointed.

01:44:59.000 And why are they making an Islamic state?

01:45:01.000 It wasn't an Islamic state under Saddam, but the liberation is going to make it an Islamic state.

01:45:05.000 Interesting.

01:45:06.000 Because the chieftains of the Islamic government are under the control of the CIA.

01:45:11.000 Obviously they have been for decades.

01:45:14.000 And as we talked about last week, this new government doesn't even have the power to make any laws.

01:45:19.000 It doesn't have the power to tell US troops to leave the country.

01:45:24.000 No, it has no power whatsoever.

01:45:26.000 It's not even a government.

01:45:27.000 It's just a puppet that they're going to put in for the foreseeable future.

01:45:31.000 That's it.

01:45:31.000 You've got a bunch of other news.

01:45:33.000 Let's go to the calls right now really quick.

01:45:35.000 Let's talk to Dave in Texas.

01:45:37.000 Go ahead, Dave.

01:45:39.000 Yes, thank you for taking my call, sir.

01:45:41.000 You bet.

01:45:42.000 I'd like to make a couple statements and then I'll listen to you.

01:45:46.000 I'll hang up and listen to you.

01:45:47.000 But I had seen Newt Gingrich yesterday and they were asking him about the torture.

01:45:54.000 And one of his first statements that he made was, Well, that Saddam had killed over 30,000 people, and no news was being made about that.

01:46:05.000 So I see where they're trying to go with this.

01:46:08.000 Yeah, because Saddam, who they don't mention was trained and put in by the globalists, did some of this, it's suddenly okay! 0.99

01:46:15.000 And we're hiring all the former Ba'athists to run all of this! 1.00

01:46:18.000 These people are six of them now!

01:46:20.000 If somebody commits some kidnapping and rape and murder in your town, you get to do it, because they did it!

01:46:26.000 Just tell the police that! 0.99

01:46:28.000 You know, you're a psychopath, you've been afraid to do evil things? 0.99

01:46:30.000 Well, now you get to! 1.00

01:46:32.000 You know, lack of training!

01:46:33.000 You have to have training not to go out and give a nap and kill people!

01:46:37.000 Newt Gingrich did bring up that point.

01:46:38.000 One interesting comment that he said was that in the war, in the beginning, they had captured over 116,000 people, and at this time there were close to 20,000 people still contained in the prisons over there.

01:46:55.000 One point that I have been catching on, I'm sure you probably have made this point, but I'd like to remind everybody about it.

01:47:02.000 About three weeks ago, two weeks ago, not even that far back, the 9-11 Commission was in full-blown And now we're not talking about 9-11, we're not talking about NAFTA, we're not talking about Free Trade Area of the Americas, we're only talking about the torture, and it also serves to demonize America.

01:47:24.000 Thanks for the call, good points.

01:47:26.000 Paul, any comments to that?

01:47:28.000 Yeah, well, it does serve to demonize America. 1.00

01:47:31.000 It's to stir up resentment amongst the Arabs, so they get more terror, you know, more pretext to occupy the Middle East. 1.00

01:47:37.000 It's also designed to You know, bring America to its knees, weaken the spirit of the country.

01:47:43.000 Basically, it amounts to an attack on the nation-state because of this solid-stage UN handover that's going to happen.

01:47:50.000 Because, you know, if they're trying to build a global dictatorship, then that cannot coexist with any nation-state superpower.

01:47:57.000 So this is all part of the agenda to get the UN into Iraq.

01:48:02.000 Okay, who's up next, Stephanie? 0.74

01:48:05.000 Dora.

01:48:05.000 Dora, go ahead, you're on the air.

01:48:08.000 Hello, can you hear me?

01:48:09.000 Yes, I can.

01:48:10.000 Okay, I'm calling from Missouri, and thanks for taking my call.

01:48:15.000 I don't know if you can, or you will, elaborate on the purchase of the tower.

01:48:21.000 Either it was one week or one month before 9-11.

01:48:24.000 Yeah, two months before Larry Silverstein and a quote, shadowy group bought it.

01:48:30.000 And then a few months ago, Larry Silverstein, Chicago Sun-Times, and a very secretive group of New York investors bought the Sears Tower in Chicago, which they say is the next big target.

01:48:40.000 Well, uh, it was on late night news and he was suing, uh, for, he was, it was... Yeah, he lost the money.

01:48:47.000 He wanted to call it two events.

01:48:49.000 Right.

01:48:49.000 Instead of getting three and a half billion, he wanted seven billion.

01:48:53.000 But he only got three and a half billion.

01:48:55.000 He bought it for seven point two billion.

01:48:57.000 That's what the... No, he didn't buy it.

01:49:00.000 He bought it for, it leveraged just for a few hundred million.

01:49:03.000 Uh, but he, he wanted seven billion.

01:49:06.000 Oh, okay.

01:49:07.000 And he only got $3.5 billion in the payout on the insurance.

01:49:12.000 Well, they sure haven't reported that on any of the news.

01:49:17.000 It's all in the news wires, but you're right.

01:49:19.000 It never really makes it into the mainstream television.

01:49:22.000 Okay, and is this why the group of women that lost their husbands and their sons and their fathers, did they push for this 9-11 commission, which I heard they were storming Washington?

01:49:36.000 Yeah, what happens is you have a commission to find out what government people know, to cover up evidence.

01:49:43.000 It's an intelligence arm on the inside, and for the outward look, it's to make everybody think we've got a government that's doing an investigation.

01:49:51.000 Well, with this fella by the name of Larry Silverstein, or Silverstein?

01:49:56.000 Silverstein, yeah.

01:49:57.000 Wasn't this a planned thing with the tower?

01:50:00.000 All we know is, Paul... He's a rat, that's all. 1.00

01:50:02.000 Ma'am, thanks for the call. 0.98

01:50:03.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:50:04.000 Paul, all we know about Larry Silverstein is that he admits that they blew up the building, Building 7.

01:50:09.000 Can you comment?

01:50:11.000 He admits on a September 2002 PBS documentary that they pulled the building, Building 7, which people were in at the time, according to what was said at the time.

01:50:22.000 That in itself demolishes the official story and why there was a FEMA report into it, into why it collapsed, because he admits that they pulled it, which begs the question, how did they get the explosives in?

01:50:35.000 And we have detailed reports on that in the members section of PrisonPlanet.TV.

01:50:40.000 Exactly.

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01:54:26.000 This is new news to most people because it was in the New York Times last Friday and throughout the weekend and got elaborated on in other publications.

01:54:35.000 But it's actually in my two videos.

01:54:38.000 My two videos on 9-11, one of them made two plus years ago, okay?

01:54:42.000 This is not new news.

01:54:45.000 My only point is, everything we claim later comes out again and again and again.

01:54:49.000 And they declared national security on these and destroyed them out of hand.

01:54:53.000 I wonder why you'd do that?

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01:57:12.000 It's only going to get worse.

01:57:14.000 Paul, in the last few minutes here, shredding 9-11 emergency transmissions from the FAA towers.

01:57:23.000 We already know they were ordered to stand down, but this is a smoking gun.

01:57:27.000 Go ahead.

01:57:27.000 Yeah, the tapes that were destroyed were discussions between New York air traffic controllers on the morning of 9-11.

01:57:35.000 Now, one would expect that this was one continuous tape, so from that we can make the deduction that these tapes Not only covered events after the attack, but also during the attack.

01:57:47.000 And even, you know, conversations with the pilots and the hijackers, if there were even any on board.

01:57:52.000 Now, the excuse for them being destroyed and, you know, cut up into dozens of different pieces, put in different trash cans, was that the FAA policy says that there should only be written reports, so...

01:58:06.000 Where are the written reports?

01:58:07.000 They've also been destroyed.

01:58:08.000 Well, if that's the case, then why do they have emergency recorders on the planes, which all, of course, were totally destroyed, but two magic passports, unscathed, fell from the sky, showing it was the hijackers, who then turned out to be alive in other countries.

01:58:24.000 Well yeah, you can't get to the black boxes.

01:58:26.000 They initially covered up the firefighter communications.

01:58:29.000 So any record of the event which blows the roof off the fact that the official story doesn't make sense in any way is censored.

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01:58:39.000 Yeah, they're magic.

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02:00:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:14.000 Already hour number three on this Tuesday edition, the 11th day of May, 2004.

02:00:23.000 I'm Alex Jones, riding shotgun with us.

02:00:25.000 This is Paul Watson, my webmaster over my websites PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:00:31.000 Also be sure to check out InfoWars.com for a different look and info.

02:00:36.000 We're about to go to the loaded phones, get into a bunch of other news items we haven't hit on yet.

02:00:41.000 But we are talking about the torture, but not just the torture, the twisting, the manipulation, the neocons and their liberal buddies saying it's good.

02:00:50.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Fred in Philadelphia, then Gabe, Jenny, Ken, John, and others.

02:00:57.000 Fred, you're on the air.

02:00:58.000 Thanks for holding.

02:00:59.000 Oh, hi.

02:01:00.000 Uh, is it alright if I talk about, uh, something other than Iraq?

02:01:03.000 Or can we just stick to Iraq? 0.88

02:01:04.000 No, obviously, sir, we're talking about the entire geopolitical spectrum.

02:01:09.000 Okay.

02:01:10.000 Uh, the Nichols trial.

02:01:12.000 Uh, isn't there a Culbertson video that you, uh, interviewed a guest on that, uh, this reporter is suing to get?

02:01:20.000 Okay.

02:01:20.000 It shows a fire breaking out at the bottom of the, uh, two, uh, soon-to-explode building.

02:01:30.000 Isn't there a Culbertson video?

02:01:31.000 Excuse me, what does this have to do with Oklahoma City?

02:01:34.000 Well, you had a guest on who was trying to get the video, a leaked video, from a federal law enforcement man who leaked it to a reporter showing the building.

02:01:48.000 I'm going to put you on hold and find something out.

02:01:52.000 I want the callers to turn their radios off or get off the speaker phones or whatever they're doing.

02:01:59.000 Sir, do you have your radio on?

02:02:02.000 It's on very, very low.

02:02:03.000 Put it back on hold.

02:02:04.000 Turn your radios off.

02:02:07.000 Everybody listens to talk radio.

02:02:08.000 You know this.

02:02:10.000 I mean, I'm just going to start hanging up on people if it's on any.

02:02:13.000 Any.

02:02:14.000 It's very annoying to me.

02:02:16.000 It's driving me up the wall.

02:02:17.000 I'm sorry, but you people know better than that.

02:02:20.000 Going back to you, sir, I couldn't focus on what you were saying because I was Listen to the delay.

02:02:26.000 Now, let's go back to what you were saying.

02:02:28.000 Is your radio off?

02:02:29.000 Yeah.

02:02:29.000 Okay, thank you.

02:02:30.000 I really appreciate that.

02:02:31.000 I'm not mad at you.

02:02:32.000 You've just got to stop it.

02:02:33.000 This is very irritating.

02:02:36.000 It's kind of like a pet peeve.

02:02:38.000 It just builds up and builds up until you're ready to pull your hair out.

02:02:41.000 So you're getting the brunt for everybody else.

02:02:44.000 There were 12 different video cameras on the On the truck bomb blowing up, the bombs inside, the BATF down the street in full mop gear, out of the building, John Doe number two, all of that.

02:02:56.000 Three, four years ago I interviewed the lawyers, the national security, the rulings by the feds, and then the Associated Press about a month ago, April 20th, Oklahoma City bomb document cites video of multiple suspects and they admit it.

02:03:10.000 So, I know about that.

02:03:12.000 I know that there's also video that we've got of the bottoms of buildings blowing up on September 11th.

02:03:18.000 Now, what are you getting at?

02:03:19.000 Okay, it's actually called the Culbertson video.

02:03:26.000 You had a guest on that was of an Oklahoma paper that is suing to get the Culbertson video.

02:03:34.000 Okay, you're confused, sir.

02:03:35.000 The guest from Oklahoma was concerning Oklahoma City.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, I know.

02:03:41.000 This is about Oklahoma City, but I'm saying that... You said at the base of the towers.

02:03:46.000 No, not the towers.

02:03:47.000 We're talking about Oklahoma City.

02:03:48.000 I'm not talking about the towers at all.

02:03:50.000 You said at the base of buildings, the fires a minute ago.

02:03:53.000 Yeah, the fire.

02:03:54.000 The Culbertson video is a slow motion video of the Oklahoma City building Uh, a flame coming out of the bottom of it a second before it blew up.

02:04:07.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

02:04:08.000 I appreciate it.

02:04:09.000 Paul, any comments to this?

02:04:11.000 No.

02:04:11.000 All I know is that the video exists and the FBI covered it all clamped down on it since then, since that story came out.

02:04:18.000 It first came out, I think, back in January.

02:04:20.000 I haven't heard anything more on it.

02:04:23.000 Yeah, thank you for the call, sir, and I'm sorry about getting irritated.

02:04:25.000 It's just, you know, come on.

02:04:28.000 We'll be back.

02:04:29.000 Thanks for holding, Fred.

02:04:30.000 And we'll talk to Gabe and Jenny and Ken and John and everybody else.

02:04:35.000 Stay with us, my friends.

02:04:37.000 And turn your radios off! 0.86

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02:08:35.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Jenny in Oklahoma.

02:08:43.000 Jenny, good to have you on the show.

02:08:44.000 Hi, how are you doing?

02:08:45.000 Great.

02:08:46.000 I'm glad I have both of you on.

02:08:49.000 Of course, around here the neocons are saying the same thing.

02:08:52.000 Tell us what they're saying right now.

02:08:54.000 Are they saying the torture is good or are they saying there is no torture?

02:08:57.000 They're making excuses for it.

02:08:59.000 You know, they're saying, well, we're at war and, you know, it's a...

02:09:03.000 But I thought that first we went to war over weapons of mass destruction, then that was a fraud, so then it was to stop the torture and rape rooms, which our troops are doing in those very same rooms.

02:09:13.000 Right, right.

02:09:14.000 So how is it bad when Saddam does it or Mingala, but it's good when we do it? 1.00

02:09:18.000 Comments.

02:09:19.000 That's a great point that you make.

02:09:20.000 I mean, I've used that one myself.

02:09:22.000 I've heard you say it, you know.

02:09:24.000 What is it like to hear these psychopaths on air?

02:09:27.000 I can't really listen to it.

02:09:28.000 I'll be driving to work in the morning and just pretty much, you know, they start yelling and and get mad and there's nothing i

02:09:34.000 can do about it you know so

02:09:36.000 you can call in the broadcast well i could but i don't have a cell phone and

02:09:39.000 israeli it's a good what you call it about i'm sorry for the rubric that

02:09:42.000 okay uh...

02:09:43.000 well actually i don't know if you can appreciate this question or not but

02:09:47.000 i'm a member of your former methods for an hour wondering if you could provide

02:09:51.000 maybe an explanation after why you pulled your support

02:09:55.000 well you know what i told paul's when you read the message board is turned into

02:09:59.000 a gossip column and i think he's going to hand it over to the people of the

02:10:03.000 folks don't like that i'll just get completely rid of it Well, no, no, that's fine.

02:10:06.000 See, I told you, Paul, we need to just get rid of it.

02:10:08.000 Because, I mean, it just turns into a distraction, turns into a diversion, ma'am.

02:10:13.000 Well, I mean, I'm an active member of the board and I have to say that... Well, what does it mean if I'm not affiliated with it?

02:10:19.000 I mean, I never look at it, I don't have time to deal with it, so something like that I shouldn't be involved with.

02:10:24.000 Well, it's important that we be able to recruit members, and of course having your name associated helps us do that.

02:10:30.000 We've grown 150 members, you know, since your first coast-to-coast appearance.

02:10:35.000 I mean, it's been leaps and bounds.

02:10:37.000 Oh, and we have thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of members of our Yahoo group.

02:10:40.000 We don't even really update that, ma'am.

02:10:42.000 But, you know, it's just my decision.

02:10:44.000 I personally want to get completely rid of it.

02:10:46.000 In fact, we're going to do that.

02:10:48.000 But anything else?

02:10:49.000 No, that'll do it.

02:10:50.000 Okay, thank you.

02:10:51.000 Thanks a lot.

02:10:52.000 Let's go ahead and go to the next caller.

02:10:55.000 Ken in California.

02:10:56.000 Ken, go ahead.

02:10:57.000 Yes, I'm a former army sergeant during the Vietnam War.

02:11:01.000 And let me tell you something. 0.96

02:11:02.000 This is a ridiculous situation.

02:11:04.000 Not only is torture and humiliation illegal under the Geneva Convention, which we are a party to, but it's illegal under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

02:11:14.000 There's no excuse for this whatsoever.

02:11:16.000 And I heard a sicko the other day say that, say that, oh, everybody violates that, so, you know, we can too. 0.87

02:11:22.000 I mean, this is sick.

02:11:23.000 Paul, comments?

02:11:25.000 Well, yeah, it's completely sick.

02:11:27.000 Another point on these, these neocon talk show hosts saying all this, though.

02:11:31.000 I'm pretty sure that they've heard what we're saying and that one of them's mentioned what we were saying on air because To just today, I've had three emails basically saying that our website's a commie propaganda. 0.69

02:11:43.000 And I usually only get, you know, one email a month saying that, but three in one day, so I'm sure that they've noticed that we've picked up on it, and now they're trying to defend it. 0.82

02:11:52.000 So, when we post the Army's own report saying raping women, when we post AP, Reuters, BBC, MSNBC, we're evil commies because we're against raping women. 0.94

02:12:04.000 Yeah, it's commie propaganda to post a link out of MSNBC, out of the official army report, saying that they raped women. 0.97

02:12:11.000 It's all communism. 0.68

02:12:14.000 Because we're against open borders, the assault weapons ban, and the rest of it.

02:12:18.000 That's exactly the point that I made in my responses, because these people are getting this from people like Savage, Limbaugh, who, you know, they go on at length about how we need to get rid of guns and keep the borders open.

02:12:32.000 And anyone who criticizes the government should be put in a forced labor camp.

02:12:36.000 And yet, where are the commies?

02:12:39.000 Well, what they do is they say they're pro-gun, but then defend the actual gun bills.

02:12:44.000 And, you know, just a side issue.

02:12:46.000 Anything else on that, Paul?

02:12:50.000 No, just that I think we've been noticed that, you know, we're getting bigger, so we're a bigger target.

02:12:56.000 So we're getting bigger.

02:12:56.000 Yeah, and going back to the message board thing, you know, we started that and I said, I'll just see how it goes.

02:13:00.000 And there's a lot of great people on it.

02:13:02.000 But then when it turns into a big distraction, which, you know, you know, basically like a pickup bar or something.

02:13:08.000 I mean, that's not what I'm about, especially something I can't even look at or do anything with.

02:13:12.000 And so it's no big deal.

02:13:13.000 I just said, hey, let the people have it.

02:13:15.000 And I told Paul, remember, I told him, I said, Paul, they're not even going to want to just have the message board.

02:13:18.000 They're going to want me to promote it, so it's just amazing.

02:13:27.000 Folks, start your own radio talk shows, start your own message boards, do your own deal.

02:13:32.000 I can't do everything for everybody.

02:13:34.000 It's really that simple.

02:13:36.000 Let's go ahead now and go to the next call.

02:13:40.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ken in California.

02:13:42.000 Ken, go ahead.

02:13:43.000 Oh, that was the Army Sergeant.

02:13:46.000 I'm losing my mind here.

02:13:47.000 John in Tennessee.

02:13:48.000 John, go ahead.

02:13:50.000 Hello.

02:13:50.000 My family works for the law firm suing the Bin Ladens and Saudis for alleged involvement in 9-1-1.

02:13:56.000 Everybody wonders why the Christian Bushes and the Muslim Bin Ladens have been in business and vacation together for 30 years in Carlisle and Arbusta Oil. 1.00

02:14:04.000 Well, there's the CIA connection with Osama's cover name was Tim Osman, spelled O-S-S-M-A-N.

02:14:12.000 O.S.S.

02:14:13.000 stands for Office of Strategic Services.

02:14:15.000 Yeah, that's admitted.

02:14:17.000 Publicly, all of these people are controlled by our government.

02:14:20.000 Well, M.A.N.

02:14:21.000 is a Jewish name, and Bin Laden is from Yemen, which has the highest Jewish population outside Israel.

02:14:27.000 It's reported that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Silverstein, and Bin Laden are all Jews, and Jewish historians brag that a Major George Bush was a Jew in the Revolutionary War.

02:14:36.000 My question is, what have y'all found out about the Zionist-Masad ties to 9-1-1?

02:14:41.000 Okay, thanks for the call.

02:14:42.000 Let me just comment on this.

02:14:45.000 There's a crowd out there that thinks that, you know, everybody is secretly part of this big Jewish conspiracy, you know, why Jones is really a Jewish name.

02:14:53.000 Now, if I was Jewish, I wouldn't be ashamed of it, there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm not Jewish, folks, and, you know, I expose Israel, and then one crowd says that I work for Israel, the other crowd says that I'm a Nazi, and, you know, it's irritating, Kerry's grandfather was Jewish.

02:15:13.000 That's, you know, he said that.

02:15:16.000 It is true that the Bushes, you know, have some Jewish background.

02:15:20.000 But most people, a lot of people out of Europe do.

02:15:23.000 I mean, you know, the two groups mixed together.

02:15:26.000 I don't believe the Jews run the New World Order.

02:15:30.000 Israel is a satellite of that. 0.81

02:15:32.000 I mean, half the people in Israel are against, you know, what's going on.

02:15:35.000 It isn't one monolithic group.

02:15:39.000 Most of the conservative orthodox rabbis are totally against all these wars, totally against Israel doing all the things they're doing.

02:15:47.000 And so, you know, you look at 9-11, it's clear that Israel was tracking some of the supposed hijackers, and they were, hundreds of them, these Israelis, were arrested about a month before 9-11, and Fox News had the headline, you know, Mossad, they have prior knowledge.

02:16:01.000 Well, if our government arrested them for tailing the hijackers, If the FBI was paying for their cars, houses, credit cards, everything, then that means our government had prior knowledge, too.

02:16:11.000 Were Israelis jumping up and down, videotaping the towers?

02:16:14.000 Yes!

02:16:15.000 Did it turn out a Mossad chief, sub-chief, was running the business that pulled out the day after?

02:16:20.000 Yes!

02:16:21.000 Did they have prior knowledge?

02:16:22.000 Yes!

02:16:23.000 Did Odigo, the instant message company, according to the Jerusalem Post and Haratz, email or instant message 4,000 You know, of their members, people that lived in New York, not just in the Tower, and tell them not to go into the Tower that day?

02:16:37.000 Did all of that happen?

02:16:38.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:16:39.000 Can Israel order NORAD to stand down?

02:16:41.000 No.

02:16:42.000 Can Israel order the FAA to shred tapes?

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02:16:45.000 Can Israel flog the bin Laden and Saddam on 9-11 and September 12th? 0.98

02:16:48.000 No.

02:16:49.000 Can Israel have Condoleezza Rice call Mayor Willie Brown and tell him not to flog New York?

02:16:53.000 No.

02:16:54.000 Can Israel have NORAD stand down?

02:16:57.000 No.

02:16:57.000 Paul Comich.

02:16:58.000 Well, the fact is that Israel, just like the Russians, just like the British, just like the American government, commits terrorism against its own people. 0.72

02:17:06.000 It doesn't mean to say that one single country or intelligence agency runs it all, because every major intelligence agency warned of 9-11.

02:17:14.000 They all knew that it was coming.

02:17:16.000 Israel today admitted Well, yesterday in the World Tribune I admitted that they had infiltrated Hamas. 0.69

02:17:22.000 And I wrote that in my book two years ago, and now they've just admitted it.

02:17:26.000 So, the next Hamas bombing, you know, to blame them. 0.76

02:17:29.000 That's not to say that Israel co-ordinated it.

02:17:31.000 Well, Yishak Rabin apologized for Israel founding Hamas. 0.71

02:17:36.000 Yeah, but the point is that they will take this strand of this whole, you know, Freedom Information Movement, that Israel's behind it and they will run with it and demonize us as racists and that's exactly what the reporter did in this recent Vanity Fair article which included us and a whole bunch of other people on the subjects of New World Order and 9-11.

02:17:58.000 They basically zeroed in on the fact that it was all a Jewish conspiracy.

02:18:02.000 You know, throw in a few greys, aliens, and UFOs, and that's the whole topic whitewashed and us demonized.

02:18:09.000 Yeah, I mean, 2,000 years ago, when no Jews were in China, they were enslaving their people. 0.99

02:18:14.000 2,000 years ago, you know, with the Aztecs, I mean, it has nothing to do with, you know, are there powerful Jews in positions of power?

02:18:22.000 Well, yes, there are powerful Germans and others.

02:18:26.000 I mean, basically, this is what happens.

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02:18:35.000 And the Jewish Mafia plays off that and goes, if you criticize the Jewish Mafia, you're an anti-Semite. 0.59

02:18:41.000 So we do criticize the Jewish Mafia, and they're arguably the third most powerful Mafia in the world. 0.75

02:18:48.000 But the Nazi Skull and Bones Mafia is the most powerful, and the Queen of England and the Dutch Roll family and others, they are the most powerful, Paul. 0.99

02:18:59.000 Oh yeah, that's the Anglo-Saxon Mafia. 0.93

02:19:03.000 But people say that, you know, take the example of patriotism.

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02:19:19.000 So these dialectics that people get confused with, you know, discredit our argument.

02:19:24.000 And Israel being the head of everything is exactly that, a false dialectic. 0.92

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02:24:01.000 All right, let's go ahead and talk to Brett in Washington.

02:24:04.000 Brett, you're on the air.

02:24:05.000 Go ahead.

02:24:07.000 Alex?

02:24:07.000 Yes?

02:24:08.000 How are you doing today?

02:24:10.000 I'm on the radio.

02:24:11.000 How are you?

02:24:11.000 Oh, not too bad.

02:24:13.000 And Paul Watson, hello to you.

02:24:16.000 A couple quick questions here, if I may, Alex.

02:24:18.000 Sir, you don't have... Put him on hold.

02:24:20.000 Sir, you don't have your radio on, do you?

02:24:24.000 Let's bring you back up.

02:24:25.000 Sir, do you have your radio on?

02:24:26.000 Are you there?

02:24:30.000 Yes.

02:24:31.000 Go ahead.

02:24:33.000 Yes.

02:24:35.000 If I may.

02:24:38.000 One's a very simple question, and then I have a general question for you.

02:24:42.000 Let's begin with, have you ever heard of a guy named Brother Stare, and do you ever listen to him?

02:24:48.000 No, I don't.

02:24:49.000 And I don't even concern myself with it.

02:24:51.000 I concern myself with the Pan-American Union, with cancer viruses and vaccines, the government feeding radiation to public school children.

02:24:59.000 I concern my... I don't concern myself with the... Okay, I was just curious.

02:25:02.000 I was... Because he comes on after you on WWE... Hey, thanks for the call, sir.

02:25:07.000 I really appreciate it.

02:25:08.000 I really do.

02:25:08.000 I just cannot descend into what everybody else does on so-called Patriot Talk Radio.

02:25:13.000 I appreciate it.

02:25:15.000 Chris in Texas.

02:25:16.000 Chris, go ahead.

02:25:17.000 Hi there.

02:25:18.000 I wanted to ask you, Alex, if you've pursued or checked into trying to get any of your shows or your own special show, whatever, on Free Speech TV on the Dish Network?

02:25:29.000 No, I've been on Free Speech TV a couple times at events, but I haven't checked into that.

02:25:35.000 You ought to have your own regular show.

02:25:37.000 That's a great venue.

02:25:39.000 I watch it all the time.

02:25:41.000 The problem is that it's a little bit liberal, and they don't want a real conservative on there exposing Bush.

02:25:46.000 They want to keep it in the fake left-right paradigm.

02:25:49.000 I mean, are you a real conservative?

02:25:51.000 I've never considered you conservative.

02:25:53.000 Well, to use people's popular turn, I'm pro-gun, anti-abortion, pro-border, pro-national sovereignty, so I'm in disagreeance with Bush and Clinton and the rest of them.

02:26:03.000 So they have to categorize you then?

02:26:06.000 Basically, I mean, I've talked to people who have talked to them, and I've seen free speech TV, and I've just gotten a feel for it, but they put some alternative stuff on there.

02:26:15.000 They might give me a TV show.

02:26:16.000 Why don't you contact them and tell them to?

02:26:18.000 I'll try.

02:26:19.000 All right, good luck.

02:26:21.000 What else is on your mind?

02:26:22.000 Nothing else?

02:26:23.000 Well, I saw some of the stuff on C-SPAN, the hearings, and it's ridiculous how you don't even have to have the title underneath these people's names and know whether or not they're Republican or Democrat as soon as they start talking.

02:26:43.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

02:26:44.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Dave in Colorado.

02:26:47.000 Dave, go ahead.

02:26:49.000 Hey Alex, good afternoon.

02:26:50.000 Welcome.

02:26:51.000 I just want to touch on a couple things here that's been happening up here in Denver.

02:26:57.000 Let's see, Arapahoe County wants to introduce foot patrols into suburban Parts of the county.

02:27:04.000 We're not talking like, you know, like downtown, like what you'd see in a Beretta show or something.

02:27:09.000 Yeah, this is knock and talk.

02:27:11.000 And just foot patrols in rural areas walking around spying on you.

02:27:15.000 Yeah, coming up down where there's, you never see a cop car.

02:27:19.000 However, if these guys start walking down through, I mean, what if somebody's being assaulted five blocks away?

02:27:25.000 Are they going to spread 2,000 yards?

02:27:27.000 Get there and help her out. 0.97

02:27:28.000 Look, this community policing is taking everybody out of the military when they rotate back to the states, putting them on the streets, 100,000 new police every few years, out there looking for some way to get you into a private prison.

02:27:40.000 Paul Watson comments?

02:27:42.000 Well yeah, but obviously they don't have enough personnel in the police force to patrol every single street, which is why the draft, the Homeland Security Service, is going to be part of this.

02:27:51.000 Which is why on the Selective Service Board website, you'll see that the photos at the top are basically a pan of every individual in society.

02:28:01.000 A black skateboarder, a white businessman in a suit, a cowboy, So they're basically saying that they're going to hire everyone from every strata of society, and it's all geared towards this Homeland Security Service, which is what, you know, where they'll draw the personnel for those kind of foot patrols.

02:28:17.000 Absolutely.

02:28:17.000 Anything else, Dave?

02:28:19.000 Well, we're being bombarded with stuff.

02:28:21.000 I'm in the process of moving, so I can't pay attention right now for a couple more weeks, but we had two news, major evening news stories, local news, and one of them was about Your pet's getting little microchips and vets can't find them and the other one was about how to keep track of your kids and I didn't get to see these shows.

02:28:40.000 I called in last Friday about... Well that's what they do all over the country, all over the world.

02:28:44.000 Oh look, this cat that was gone for seven years got found, this dog for five years.

02:28:48.000 Oh, and the next report, should children have these?

02:28:51.000 And then they got this brain fingerprinting research center.

02:28:54.000 They want to put in, they want to train a thousand people to take this technology across the country.

02:28:58.000 Yeah, they're going to build that in Colorado.

02:29:02.000 I saw that.

02:29:03.000 And five airports have NASA prototype brain scanners that scan your brain at the airport.

02:29:10.000 Isn't that freaky?

02:29:10.000 I mean, they're going to abuse this technology.

02:29:12.000 This technology has to be skeptical at best.

02:29:15.000 Reading your neural Look, look, look, great point.

02:29:19.000 We've already proven that the old lie detector was a fraud.

02:29:21.000 So now they've got a more complex black box and other, you know, vain quackery.

02:29:27.000 Oh, it says you're guilty!

02:29:29.000 Why, the scanner says it!

02:29:31.000 We don't lie, we're the running man!

02:29:33.000 Alright, we'll be back.

02:29:34.000 Thank you, sir.

02:29:35.000 Great points.

02:29:35.000 Great call.

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02:38:16.000 This is from Democracy Now!

02:38:19.000 And they put out some good news, but this is old news.

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02:39:02.000 government conducted on unsuspecting Americans for decades as part of its atom bomb program.

02:39:09.000 In a gruesome plot that spanned some 30 years, doctors and scientists worked with the U.S. 0.71

02:39:13.000 Atomic Weapons Program, exposing thousands of unwilling and unknowing Americans to radiation, poisoning, and to study its effects. 0.81

02:39:22.000 For years, the experiments by the U.S.

02:39:24.000 government and the identities of their human-getting pigs were covered up This is after a six year investigation and they go through all of the next twelve pages, but I remember reading about a pregnant wife of a G.I.

02:39:35.000 would come in, eight months pregnant. 0.92

02:39:37.000 They'd say, take these vitamins.

02:39:39.000 They even had former Nazis running the clinics out in New Mexico and Arizona and Nevada.

02:39:43.000 This has been in the news.

02:39:45.000 And they would order the young doctors to give these to them and then the woman would come back in having a miscarriage and they'd come in with film cameras and film it! 0.94

02:39:53.000 This is ghoulish by the controllers just to test and create cadres of psychopaths.

02:39:58.000 Then they take those cadres, create larger cadres.

02:40:02.000 The Nazis called it the cement of blood.

02:40:05.000 Once you've tortured together, you know, you stick together.

02:40:09.000 Then you train others in torture.

02:40:11.000 This is why you should stop drinking the water, people.

02:40:13.000 Because this stuff's going on all the time.

02:40:16.000 Five million gallons of nerve gas to be dumped in the Delaware River?

02:40:19.000 Associated Press?

02:40:20.000 That is, thousands of tons mixed with five million gallons of water?

02:40:25.000 Deadly!

02:40:25.000 Paul comments.

02:40:27.000 Well, exactly the genesis was with the Nazis.

02:40:30.000 And to train that cadre, the first experiments, the first euthanasia programs were done on disabled children, which then obviously elevated up to Jews and other minorities. 0.77

02:40:43.000 And so, I mean, same thing nowadays with the latest study out of Britain says that sperm counts of men are down 40% and that in actual fact, 75-year-old men now have higher sperm counts in many areas in Britain than, you know, 30-year-old men.

02:41:01.000 Now, Paul, you're looking at that statistic in one way.

02:41:03.000 They announced somewhere before a few months ago that 40% reduction in the last decade, but when you add it to the reduction from the decades before, it was over an 80% sperm count reduction.

02:41:17.000 Yes, that was the case.

02:41:20.000 It was measured from around 10-12 years ago to present day.

02:41:24.000 So it's just adding on top of the previous study.

02:41:27.000 It's like with the water.

02:41:28.000 Here in Britain again, the Coca-Cola company who produced the bottled water, which was found to contain cancerous carcinogens, The point to make is that they were getting that water from local estuaries which fed straight into the tap water of the London area down there.

02:41:48.000 So they just drew it out of the tap water which also contained these carcinogens.

02:41:53.000 Yeah, so you can't recall the reservoir.

02:41:55.000 Exactly.

02:41:56.000 People have been drinking it for years and the only scandal is about the You know, the few hundred thousand bottles of water that cokes sell.

02:42:03.000 But it's been there for years, and people drinking it through the tap water.

02:42:06.000 We've all got to start filtering our water.

02:42:09.000 I mean, how do they get people to give uranium to pregnant women? 0.57

02:42:13.000 I mean, I mean, what?

02:42:14.000 Is that to fight Al-Qaeda too?

02:42:17.000 I mean, is it funny? 0.99

02:42:19.000 Is it just blowing off steam to kill somebody's baby, Paul?

02:42:23.000 Well, people like Kim Jong-Il take that as well, and institute that kind of program in the North Korean gulags with 200,000 people in them.

02:42:32.000 So Kim's just blowing off steam as well, just having some fun with the experiment.

02:42:37.000 Well, yeah, you're with Al-Qaeda.

02:42:39.000 Let's talk to Carol in Arkansas, then C.D. 0.94

02:42:42.000 and others.

02:42:43.000 Carol, go ahead.

02:42:43.000 Hello, Alex.

02:42:45.000 Welcome.

02:42:46.000 It should come as no surprise that the repugnant and As horrendous as all this torture business is to civil people, it really should come as no surprise that after over two decades of teaching situation ethics in our schools, and yes, it is coming here, it is here.

02:43:07.000 As I have watched these COPS programs, you know, they give a little bio on the front of how they got into law enforcement.

02:43:17.000 Eighty percent of them are former military.

02:43:20.000 That's exactly right.

02:43:21.000 They're saying they came out of the military.

02:43:23.000 Others are from all-cops families.

02:43:26.000 Well, my mother and my father were in police and law enforcement, and so it seemed only natural for me to go into it too.

02:43:34.000 But yes, we're seeing this mentality come here, and they're not going to, as you can see, they don't have respect for Human beings.

02:43:44.000 And that's what we're dealing with.

02:43:45.000 And used to be.

02:43:46.000 They were taught that.

02:43:48.000 But this mentality is here.

02:43:50.000 And as we speak, Alex, Wayne Hage is in court for his rights against the U.S.

02:43:58.000 government.

02:43:58.000 And you know that horrendous story of how the BLM and the Forest Rangers came in on their horses and helicopters with their bulletproof vests on.

02:44:12.000 And seized his property and his cattle and took them to the sale barn.

02:44:16.000 They did the same thing to a man in New Mexico and they did it during the calving season.

02:44:24.000 Killed a lot of his cows and calves.

02:44:26.000 Yeah, they're doing insane stuff all the time and not even following federal law in how they sell the animals.

02:44:32.000 This is just the raping and robbing and pillaging by our captors that is going on.

02:44:38.000 Exactly.

02:44:39.000 And so for anybody to think that it is not going on here, and even... Well, ma'am, I see articles every day where they're torturing people in prisons, but it's a minor footnote in the back of the paper.

02:44:49.000 Well, they're seizing property and bulldozing people's homes, too, as you know.

02:44:53.000 They're about to flood about 5% of Miami, 50-year-old neighborhood.

02:44:58.000 Yeah, and the man at Ozona, Florida, who had... his family had been on this property for 40 years, and the...

02:45:06.000 uh... suburbs moved in around him and i didn't like his property in the fact that

02:45:09.000 he redid both things and had been sitting on his property you know we had

02:45:13.000 a tall fence uh... they finally had city come in and bulldoze his place

02:45:18.000 and all part of the freedom thank you carol

02:45:21.000 uh... cd and taxes cd go ahead uh... yet all

02:45:26.000 yeah we've got a problem the phone system It is echoing.

02:45:31.000 It's not you.

02:45:32.000 It is the phone system.

02:45:33.000 It is a real problem that needs to be fixed.

02:45:35.000 Go ahead, C.D.

02:45:36.000 Yeah, three quick items.

02:45:38.000 The Muslims around the world should demand that this prison be turned into their own personal holocaust museum. 0.99

02:45:46.000 To perpetuate the memory of what the government out of control did to them.

02:45:51.000 And instead our government wants to bulldoze it.

02:45:53.000 That's right.

02:45:54.000 It needs to rise up right now and start a campaign to turn that into a museum.

02:45:59.000 A holocaust museum for those people. 0.73

02:46:01.000 Now then the next item is last week I sent you a little video cassette and on there on the Charlie Rose program the guy is saying That just what was done in the prison was not a random act of terrorism or by accident or amateur.

02:46:17.000 He said that they knew exactly how.

02:46:24.000 Well, that's it.

02:46:25.000 And I have Reuters, AP, the Army's own report.

02:46:28.000 They were ordered to do it.

02:46:30.000 There is no debating it.

02:46:31.000 But you know, C.D., there's this denial.

02:46:33.000 I keep using the example of the draft.

02:46:35.000 For two years, they've introduced 12 bills.

02:46:37.000 Senators, Congressmen are openly calling for it.

02:46:40.000 They're reestablishing draft boards, getting ready for the Selective Service for Women. 0.83

02:46:45.000 And then I have people on talk shows tell me I'm a liar, a commie liar, that there's no draft coming.

02:46:52.000 Paul Watson, C.D., any comments to this incredible denial?

02:46:55.000 Well, I had an email today which said that it was my imagination that top Pentagon officials got warned the night before 9-11 not to fly into New York.

02:47:04.000 And that's MSNBC?

02:47:06.000 Yeah, they reported on it twice.

02:47:08.000 And so the denial is massive, but the previous caller made the point about Charles Drainer was one of these military police torturing the Iraqis in Iraq.

02:47:17.000 He actually used to work in a jail in Pennsylvania doing the exact same thing, and the New York Times reported that this has been going on for decades in US prisons.

02:47:26.000 Back in January of 2003, several people came forward to say they were arrested for uh... terrorism charged with terrorism for carrying knife

02:47:36.000 similar to those used by the so-called nine eleven hijackers and they were taken

02:47:40.000 to a brooklyn prison and tortured and that's just one case of the new york

02:47:44.000 times you know report that this has been going on

02:47:47.000 in the u s and now they report that seventy nine percent of held in error

02:47:51.000 That's the Army's own report, republished by the Red Cross.

02:47:55.000 So, C.D., what is it like for you as an American to watch us stoop this low, but then not really apologize as a people, just make excuses and say it's a good thing in some cases?

02:48:06.000 Well, I see it as World War III that Albert Pike laid out.

02:48:12.000 I just accept it as their normal thing.

02:48:16.000 procedure to accomplish their goal. That's the way I see it.

02:48:20.000 I just, you know, see it like that.

02:48:25.000 I mailed you yesterday a special report put out by David J.

02:48:30.000 Smith.

02:48:31.000 And it kind of wraps up everything in a nice concise package.

02:48:37.000 So look for that in your mail as well.

02:48:39.000 What is Pastor Smith saying?

02:48:41.000 Well, he just released this January, February report, special report he put out.

02:48:48.000 Well he just tells about how Albert Pike laid out this thing and he's going to give the plan that has been in progress here for the last 150, 200 years.

02:48:59.000 Well, Pastor Smith does a great job, thanks for the call.

02:49:02.000 And by the way, Albert Pike said in the 1870s there'd be a three-part war.

02:49:08.000 World War I between Europe, where it would start, World War II to create a world government, UN system, and then World War III, starting between the Christians, the Jews, and the Muslims, bringing in the Antichrist. 0.93

02:49:21.000 And this was the head mason and confederate general.

02:49:24.000 Boy, Paul, how did he know that 130 years ago?

02:49:28.000 Well, yeah, the step three is the Muslim Holy War, the manufactured Holy War, and that's exactly why we're seeing this torture come out now, even though we were talking about it over a year ago. 0.98

02:49:39.000 Yeah, tell folks about P2OG. 0.53

02:49:42.000 Well, that was out of the Pentagon. 0.96

02:49:44.000 Rumsfeld's plan to stir up unrest amongst Arabs and terrorists by killing their family members and doing 0.98

02:49:52.000 similar activities to then make them attack so we could go in and get them. 0.97

02:49:56.000 So, prodding terrorists to attack was the quote.

02:50:00.000 And that was in Asia Times and Washington Post and LA Times as well.

02:50:05.000 Unbelievable.

02:50:08.000 We'll come back in a couple of final news stories, perhaps take a final call, stay the course, stay with us into the final segment.

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02:54:00.000 It is publicly admitted in the Army's own reports, in their statements, they say they have the photos of people being beaten to death, attack dogs attacking people, women being raped, children being tortured and raped. 0.99

02:54:13.000 This is all official, this is admitted, stop denying it, and you sickos out there, you know who you are, stop saying it's a good thing. 0.97

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02:54:25.000 Our government's been doing this for decades.

02:54:27.000 It's been going on in our prisons.

02:54:29.000 Meanwhile, Paul, the Registered Guard reports, contrails do count.

02:54:35.000 And she talks about the crazies that believe in this.

02:54:38.000 But I remember five, six years ago, a jet would fly over, leave a trail, disappear in a few seconds, and it was always at 30,000 feet or higher.

02:54:45.000 Now at 5,000 feet, they spray a trail, it stays there for five hours, four hours, and she goes on to say, for years, contrail conspiracy theorists have complained, have competed with UFO sighters and alien abductions of survivors, see it's a big joke, for airtime on late night radio.

02:55:03.000 It says their claim, those puffy white jet wakes are no mere water vapor.

02:55:10.000 Well, it can't form at low altitudes.

02:55:12.000 Why is it forming?

02:55:13.000 But active mind control chips?

02:55:15.000 But it says laughable?

02:55:17.000 Why then has NASA launched a project to engage ordinary citizens, even school kids, in monitoring the jet fuel leavings?

02:55:24.000 In a word, climate.

02:55:26.000 NASA scientist Lynn Chambers and a principal investigator with C-E-R-E-S, Satellite Project that monitors the impact of contrails, essentially man-made clouds on the Earth's radiant energy systems.

02:55:39.000 And they admit the Earth is now 20% darker And it says, during the daytime, less sunlight gets to the Earth, Chamber said, and they admit that it's causing a global problem.

02:55:50.000 Folks, ice crystals don't form in the summer at 5,000 feet and stay there for five hours and drop towards the ground.

02:55:58.000 Paul?

02:56:00.000 Well, it's certainly not laughable when these things, you know, hang over primary schools and children start coughing up blood.

02:56:08.000 But there's this differentiation between contrails and chemtrails.

02:56:12.000 They're trying to say that people who point this out that these things are hanging in the air for five hours are talking about contrails.

02:56:18.000 It's not the case.

02:56:19.000 Contrails disappear after five, ten minutes.

02:56:22.000 These are chemtrails that hang there.

02:56:24.000 And men do form these man-made clowns, whereas contrails dissipate.

02:56:28.000 Look, my whole life growing up in Dallas, Texas, Paul, I would sit there on my dad's lap or walking down the street, and I would watch the jet fly over and watch it disappear.

02:56:39.000 We're talking minutes, seconds.

02:56:41.000 They sit there for four or five hours until the whole sky is full of them at 4,000 feet!

02:56:45.000 And now we've got NASA photos, and there was one of Britain as well a few months ago.

02:56:52.000 ...of the States, where the country's literally blanketed by these things.

02:56:55.000 You can barely make out the outline of the country from these satellite photographs, and that certainly wasn't the case five, ten years ago.

02:57:04.000 This is very, very serious.

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