Alex Jones Show - 20040615_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:22.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:39.000 It is Tuesday, the 15th day of June 2004.

00:00:45.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

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00:01:08.000 Red Cross ultimatum to U.S.

00:01:10.000 on Saddam.

00:01:11.000 Release him, charge him, or break international law, Bush told.

00:01:18.000 And then, even if they follow the international law, they can have a four-year trial and not let him face his accusers or have any of his witnesses.

00:01:27.000 And he can even have his medication denied, just like that is Slobovan Milošević, for that ongoing kangaroo court trial.

00:01:34.000 I mean, I'm not saying Saddam or Slobovan Milošević are good people, but compared to the globalists, they're nothing, my friends.

00:01:42.000 So there's the Red Cross acting like, oh, you've got to follow what the UN and international law says, and so either way, either it's the tyranny of the globalists in the US, or the tyranny of the EU and the UN.

00:01:57.000 They are having to respond to that now.

00:01:59.000 Iraq wants Saddam by the end of the month, and the U.S. 0.93

00:02:03.000 is saying they might do that.

00:02:04.000 But again, it's the new puppet government appointed that will be trying Saddam Hussein, and probably executing him. 0.69

00:02:12.000 Bush has said that he wants him executed.

00:02:14.000 His old business partner, get rid of daddy's business partner that didn't pay in his BCCI money, In the late 80s and got set up in 1990, told to invade Kuwait, but again we should just ignore all the facts.

00:02:27.000 GIs marching away from re-enlistment.

00:02:30.000 War may have some Fort Carson troops leaving the ranks.

00:02:33.000 Just an article out of the Rocky Mountain News about massive troop movements out of the military.

00:02:41.000 Iraq abuse ordered from the top. 0.91

00:02:43.000 We already knew this.

00:02:44.000 It was ordered on national television in the last two years.

00:02:47.000 How wonderful it was.

00:02:48.000 Now we have the memos saying the White House is above the law.

00:02:51.000 Our own laws.

00:02:52.000 Our own federal laws.

00:02:55.000 I guess that's freedom when your government's above the law.

00:02:55.000 Wow, above the law.

00:02:58.000 But now it's coming out as commanders go, look, you're not going to burn us.

00:03:02.000 We were ordered to do this.

00:03:04.000 So we'll be going over that as well.

00:03:06.000 A new Justice Department memo says torture may be justified.

00:03:10.000 Yeah, they were all over TV again saying that in the last two years.

00:03:15.000 A man beaten so long and so severely, his kidneys failed.

00:03:19.000 Just people randomly, randomly arrested being beaten to death.

00:03:23.000 I guess that's part of the liberation.

00:03:25.000 I mean, the Nazis did it, and I guess they were liberating Poland. 0.88

00:03:28.000 Well, I don't think they were, but According to some people, I guess they think so.

00:03:33.000 I mean, the Nazis were for torture.

00:03:34.000 We're for torture now.

00:03:36.000 So we've got to say the Nazis were good. 1.00

00:03:38.000 I don't think so, but according to the new neocon movement, and people like Alan Dershowitz on the left who think torture is great, most treasury bonds in foreign hands, Financial Times of London, the man for U.S.

00:03:50.000 government bonds at foreign central banks, has for the first time lifted overseas holdings to more than half the paper in circulation.

00:03:57.000 We'll tell you what that means.

00:03:59.000 Iraq airstrikes killed only civilians.

00:04:01.000 London Guardian reporting more liberation.

00:04:04.000 trucks carrying radioactive materials intercepted in Iraq.

00:04:04.000 U.S.

00:04:07.000 Kuwait border trying to bring in the weapons of mass destruction to plant them.

00:04:12.000 We'll get to that.

00:04:14.000 Also, Capitol Hill blew.

00:04:16.000 What price freedom?

00:04:17.000 Anti-terror laws target Americans, not just terrorists.

00:04:21.000 And they give some examples of this.

00:04:23.000 Examples are Legion, Congress inquiry links Cheney with Halliburton deal.

00:04:30.000 Gas food costs push up consumer prices.

00:04:33.000 Inflation.

00:04:34.000 New objections to Fahrenheit 9-11.

00:04:37.000 Ridiculous objections and attempted sabotage of it.

00:04:42.000 9-11 plot may have been delayed.

00:04:45.000 This out of CBS News.

00:04:47.000 And much, much more haven't even scratched the surface.

00:04:51.000 Bill Clinton at the White House being worshipped by Bush yesterday.

00:04:55.000 Two peas in a pod.

00:04:57.000 We'll talk about that as well when we get back.

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00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 I rarely do this.

00:08:28.000 you But yesterday I opened the broadcast with this Newsweek article.

00:08:36.000 Intelligence the Pentagon is spying on America.

00:08:38.000 And I want to go over this again before it dovetails with some other news articles.

00:08:43.000 Mission creep! 0.98

00:08:44.000 A new bill could expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence inside the United States.

00:08:48.000 Well that's been going on for a long time.

00:08:51.000 This is a radical expansion of that.

00:08:53.000 This is the June 21st issue.

00:08:54.000 Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see the roster from a conference held at the law school a few days earlier.

00:09:05.000 The reason?

00:09:06.000 They were trying to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.

00:09:11.000 I felt like I was in law and order, said one student, after being grilled by one of the agents, which the dean handed over to them.

00:09:18.000 And they were grilling other groups as well.

00:09:20.000 The incident provoked a brief campus uproar and the Army later admitted that the agents had exceeded their authority.

00:09:25.000 But in the Pentagon has its way, the Army may not have to make such amends in the future.

00:09:30.000 Without any public hearing or debate, Newsweek has learned, defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that could vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence inside the United States, including recruiting citizens as informants.

00:09:46.000 Then a caller called and said, hey, have you seen this article out of Connecticut?

00:09:53.000 Out of the Day newspaper, big local newspaper there in Waterbury.

00:10:01.000 Well, we did get the article.

00:10:01.000 And I said, no.

00:10:05.000 And we did post it on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:10:07.000 Since then, it's gone to subscription.

00:10:09.000 You've got to just register to get it.

00:10:10.000 I think we should go and register, tell my webmaster this, and get the article and post it ourselves.

00:10:15.000 But you can read where they start out the article and say, well, the police department isn't very nice, and it's overcrowded, and so is the fire department.

00:10:27.000 But guess what?

00:10:28.000 There's a National Guard base, and it's been made the new emergency center, and We're going to merge the fire department, the police department, the city government, in a partnership with the National Guard, and they're going to help keep us safe from terrorists.

00:10:42.000 I mean, literally, like Iraq, putting the military over the government.

00:10:47.000 And here in Austin, out at Bergstrom International Airport, formerly an air base, about a third, a little under a third of the base is still a military base, and they've got the APD out there, housed with the U.S.

00:11:00.000 Army and the National Guard.

00:11:02.000 But all over the country this is going on.

00:11:05.000 Just right out in plain view, doing, running government like the Russians and the Nazis did. 0.86

00:11:10.000 Merging the military and the police.

00:11:13.000 A total violation of Posit Comitatus and the Tenth Amendment.

00:11:17.000 And it has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:11:19.000 You know, their definition of terrorism is all crime.

00:11:22.000 And it's not just the military surveilling us, now we're going to have These tens of thousands of secret military police in plain clothes, running around, demanding to interrogate us and ask us questions.

00:11:32.000 I mean, I've gone!

00:11:34.000 This year, they had a five-part symposium called the New World Order.

00:11:41.000 And they had it at UT, and they'd have former CIA Directors and Deputy Directors and Generals in to give speeches, and you'd go to the LBJ Presidential Library, and there'd be, you know, 20 cameras rolling, and they'd walk up to us and go, turn your cameras off.

00:11:53.000 Well, why?

00:11:54.000 Other people have them on, because we said so.

00:11:56.000 We'll arrest you.

00:11:57.000 There'd be troops in suits, you know, there with the General, the retired General who runs that department in UT, General Magus, And then I didn't go to the last event.

00:12:09.000 They started getting physical, actually grabbing on our people last time.

00:12:14.000 So, this was the new America, just where you have troops trying to stop you from videotaping, getting in your face.

00:12:21.000 And if you don't know your rights, they'll intimidate you, drag you behind closed doors, get in your face, threaten to arrest you.

00:12:28.000 I mean, that's the Soviet Union, boys and girls.

00:12:30.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism.

00:12:34.000 And they're setting it up right out in plain view.

00:12:36.000 So, you can go to PrisonPlanet.com and click on the article.

00:12:44.000 And you can go through and register at that newspaper if you want to read the article.

00:12:51.000 Town National Guard Ponder Partnership is the headline.

00:12:54.000 Of course, they announce it as it's already taking place.

00:12:57.000 People need to stop that up in Connecticut.

00:13:00.000 But this is going on all over the country.

00:13:04.000 All over the country, I see these reports on a weekly basis.

00:13:09.000 And again, I don't have words to stress how serious this is.

00:13:14.000 In Nazi Germany, in Soviet Germany, East Germany, in Russia, in China, in Cuba, this is how they live. 0.52

00:13:25.000 And they're announcing all this now to try to intimidate us.

00:13:28.000 To try to scare the public into being quiet and going along so they can even turn the heat up more.

00:13:34.000 And if we go along with that intimidation, if we do shut up, they're going to win, my friends.

00:13:41.000 They're going to win.

00:13:43.000 They're going to shut up their police state, they're going to carry out more terror attacks to legitimize the continual crackdown on the population.

00:13:50.000 And they're going to put more and more people in prison for petty crimes in these private prisons owned by the military-industrial complex that is carrying out the terror attacks.

00:14:02.000 I've got a bunch of reports here where they're now admitting that, well, you're worried about torture in Iraq.

00:14:06.000 Torture and murder and death is going on all over the prisons, coast to coast as well.

00:14:12.000 And no one's being held accountable.

00:14:15.000 And I saw law enforcement publications before 9-11, you know, with headlines like, The Case for Torture.

00:14:22.000 And law enforcement magazines promoting torture.

00:14:24.000 Torture isn't really bad, because we're the good guys.

00:14:27.000 But when we torture people, You know, we get the answers out of them, and this is how we're going to keep the people safe in America.

00:14:40.000 And they've sold it, you know, in all these editorials.

00:14:42.000 Well, what if we've got a terrorist and there's a bomb planted and they won't tell us where the bomb's at and it's going to kill 100 people? 0.98

00:14:49.000 Shouldn't we torture them? 1.00

00:14:51.000 And then the average person goes, yeah, I guess you should.

00:14:54.000 But see, you just let the camel put the nose under the tent flap. 0.88

00:14:57.000 It's meant for everybody.

00:14:58.000 Scientific training at literal military colleges on torture.

00:15:03.000 It's going to be you being tortured.

00:15:05.000 Don't you understand that? 0.98

00:15:07.000 It's going to be you being tortured under news cameras out of a protest as men in black ski masks and Darth Vader outfits beat you within an inch of your life or kill you.

00:15:16.000 And then, well, they shouldn't have protested.

00:15:19.000 So this whole mentality has been sold to us now.

00:15:22.000 And it's a quick slip into the Soviet-slash-Nazi-fication of America. 0.59

00:15:30.000 Red Cross ultimatum to U.S.

00:15:32.000 on Saddam.

00:15:33.000 Release him, charge him, or break international law, Bush told.

00:15:37.000 Saddam Hussein must either be released from custody by June 30th, Or, charged in the U.S.

00:15:42.000 and the new Iraqi government are to conform to international law, the International Committee on the Red Cross said last night.

00:15:49.000 So they make international law in the U.N.

00:15:51.000 look like the good cop, but if you go into their custody, they don't let you have a jury, you can't face your accuser, it's the same.

00:15:51.000 and the E.U.

00:15:57.000 So they give you a false choice, see, a false bipolar political spectrum, when really it's all on the same paradigm.

00:16:05.000 Nadam Domani, a spokeswoman for ICRC, International Committee on the Red Cross, told The Guardian that the United States defies Saddam Hussein as a prisoner of war.

00:16:19.000 At the end of the occupation, POWs have to be released provided they have no penal charges against them.

00:16:26.000 Her comments came as the international body, the only independent group with access to detainees in U.S.

00:16:30.000 custody, and basically a CIA MI6 front, becomes increasingly concerned over legal limbo in which thousands of people are being held in the run-up to the transfer of power at the end of the month.

00:16:43.000 There is no transfer of power.

00:16:46.000 Our government appointed puppets who appointed a president.

00:16:51.000 And I thought the handover was at the beginning of this month.

00:16:53.000 Oh, now it's next month.

00:16:56.000 Iraq wants Saddam by the end of the month. 0.57

00:16:58.000 AP, the new Iraqi government, wants custody of Saddam Hussein and all other prisoners by the time sovereignty is handed over at the end of the month, the interim prime minister said.

00:17:08.000 And then they go on to admit that our troops man the prisons, our interrogators run the prisons, and then the new appointed government says, we want you to stay and run things.

00:17:17.000 We go, oh, that's freedom, see?

00:17:18.000 Your government wants us to stay and run the prisons.

00:17:20.000 We put the government in.

00:17:21.000 I mean, just double think!

00:17:24.000 And I've had arguments with people on talk radio and other shows and on the street about this.

00:17:29.000 Oh, we gave them democracy.

00:17:30.000 We gave them a free government.

00:17:32.000 No, we appointed a government!

00:17:33.000 I mean, do I have... Don't you... I can't believe this even has to be explained!

00:17:42.000 But the troops aren't buying it.

00:17:44.000 GIs marching away from reenlistment.

00:17:46.000 There's one base in Colorado Springs.

00:17:48.000 Army reenlistments have dropped suddenly and dramatically at Fort Carson and several other posts where combat units have recently returned from Iraq.

00:17:57.000 The surprising deadline within the past 21 and a half months has jolted recruiters and military analysts and provoked questions about the war's effect on the Army's recruiting ability.

00:18:11.000 And it says, since Fort Carson units began coming home in April, post-recruiters have met only 57% of their quota for the re-enlistment first-term soldiers for the second hitch, according to an Army report.

00:18:22.000 So what's the Army doing?

00:18:24.000 Well, with most of them, they're saying, well, there's a little-known clause that you signed onto that says that we can make you re-enlist.

00:18:32.000 And that is indeed what they're doing.

00:18:37.000 And again, on the torture situation, this is out of the BBC, it's also in the Associated Press, a similar article, Iraq abuse ordered from the top!

00:18:44.000 The U.S.

00:18:45.000 commander at the center of the Iraq prisoner scandal says she was told to treat detainees like dogs.

00:18:51.000 But see, they're trying to blame her, that way when there's a trial, a court-martial, She'll be found not guilty because she wasn't even allowed in those wings of the prisons. 0.93

00:19:00.000 So they go after someone who's quasi-innocent to then go, oh look, we did an investigation, she did nothing.

00:19:06.000 All they ignore are the private contractors with CIA power running it.

00:19:11.000 That's another tactic they use. 0.96

00:19:13.000 Brigadier General Janice Karpinski told the BBC she was being made a convenient scapegoat for abuse ordered by others.

00:19:20.000 Top U.S.

00:19:21.000 Commanders for Iraq, General Ricardo Sanchez, should be asked what they knew about the abuse, she told BBC Radio 4, on the ropes program.

00:19:30.000 Bunch of other colonels and captains and lieutenants have been saying they were ordered to do it.

00:19:34.000 Of course they were.

00:19:35.000 You don't just go do that.

00:19:36.000 One soldier has been sentenced and six others awaiting court-martials for abuse committed.

00:19:41.000 Abuse, let alone torture.

00:19:43.000 Beating someone to death is just abuse at Abu Ghraib Jail.

00:19:47.000 General Kapinsky said more damaging information was likely to emerge at those trials.

00:19:53.000 And Ashcroft says it's all authorized.

00:19:54.000 He says they're above the law.

00:19:56.000 We'll talk about that when we get back. 0.98

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00:24:16.000 He's our editor and webmaster and great researcher.

00:24:18.000 My colleague, you could say.

00:24:21.000 He'll be joining us in the next segment.

00:24:23.000 And then we're going to have a roundtable, Paul Watson, myself, Alex Jones, and Nick Begich, Dr. Nick Begich.

00:24:31.000 From his great institute, his professor up in Alaska, his father of course a congressman who was probably killed by foul play by the Globalist for exposing the New World Order, just an expert on a whole host of issues, chemtrails, HAARP, Climate changes, the New World Order, secret weapons, stuff that's public now that he's gotten through FOIA requests.

00:24:55.000 That's coming up, so we'll have Paul for 30 minutes by himself, and then we'll have Paul for the second hour with our guests, kind of a roundtable discussion.

00:25:02.000 The third hour, and take your calls.

00:25:04.000 I'll be doing some more of these roundtable discussions that we've done over the years here on the broadcast.

00:25:09.000 Continuing with torture, I mean, again, If you don't put your thoughts, your memories, into a memory hole, that is, if you don't flush your memory every day or two like the general public does, you'll see the fraud in plain view.

00:25:23.000 All over national television since 9-11, they've said, torture's good, beat people with rubber hoses, pull their teeth out.

00:25:30.000 I mean, that's been the New York Times.

00:25:32.000 Lauding the virtues of torture.

00:25:33.000 It's the end road to tyranny that I made 26 months ago.

00:25:36.000 It's in Masters of Terror I made a year and a half ago.

00:25:39.000 It's in Police State 3 that I made 11 months ago.

00:25:44.000 Matrix of Evil that we made 8 months ago.

00:25:46.000 It's in Paul Watson's book.

00:25:47.000 I mean, we've covered all this.

00:25:49.000 The official news articles where the government called for torture.

00:25:52.000 We have a huge torture archive on both the websites.

00:25:55.000 InfoWars.com and PrisonPlot.com.

00:25:58.000 And then we see the photos, and they go, oh my gosh!

00:26:01.000 We never knew that was going on!

00:26:03.000 The people go, really?

00:26:03.000 You ordered us to do it?

00:26:04.000 It was going on at all 32 of the camps in Iraq.

00:26:07.000 It's going on at Camp X-Ray, going on at camps in Afghanistan, and camps our government runs in several other Arab countries that are our little buddies, like Egypt and Jordan.

00:26:19.000 I mean, there's been CIA section chiefs in the Washington Post bragging how they torture people and bring their children to the camps to quote, threaten them.

00:26:29.000 I mean, they're admitting they threaten people's children.

00:26:31.000 What else are they doing?

00:26:32.000 Then the photos come out and they go, oh, we never, we never were for that.

00:26:36.000 Rumsfeld was on TV!

00:26:39.000 Their surrogates were on TV promoting it.

00:26:42.000 So again, that's a double think.

00:26:44.000 You all remember them promoting it.

00:26:46.000 Now they're denying it.

00:26:47.000 Well, Top generals are saying they were ordered to do it, that they weren't even allowed to run those areas of the bases that the CIA was running it, and now, last week we learned of a Defense Department memo saying Bush is quote, above federal and international law, follows no laws, makes laws as he actually said, he's the Supreme Leader!

00:27:07.000 The Fuhrer!

00:27:08.000 Well, here's the Washington Post, Justice Department memo says torture may be justified.

00:27:14.000 And, uh, today the Washington Post is posting a copy of the August 1st, 2002 memorandum, PDF, Standards for Conduct of Interrogation under 18 U.S.C.

00:27:25.000 2340-2340A from the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel for Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel of the President Bush.

00:27:33.000 And, uh, it says that the memo was written at the request of the CIA.

00:27:36.000 The CIA wanted authority to conduct more aggressive interrogations, including Operation Copper Green submerging individuals underwater.

00:27:45.000 You've seen Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson?

00:27:48.000 You know, they did research for that film.

00:27:50.000 The CIA will put you on hallucinogens to make you panic even worse and put you in a metal chair and start dunking you in water over your head over and over again.

00:28:02.000 But they don't have that, they put a bag over your head.

00:28:05.000 And boy, you'll confess to anything then.

00:28:07.000 Then you'll go out and say, yes, I'm Al Qaeda.

00:28:09.000 I was planning to do all this while the real Al Qaeda is CIA being protected. 0.81

00:28:14.000 And it goes into how they've authorized torture in it.

00:28:17.000 So, you know, right out in the open.

00:28:19.000 But they don't have to go get memos that say this.

00:28:21.000 They can play Rumsfeld on TV bragging about it two years ago.

00:28:27.000 I'll never forget being in an L.A.

00:28:28.000 hotel room, out in California, taping episodes of Conspiracy Theory for TNN, and I watched Rumsfeld brag and he even said the torture word.

00:28:37.000 I was just freaking out.

00:28:38.000 I called my wife up and said, did you just record this?

00:28:42.000 Rumsfeld's on TV.

00:28:45.000 Ragging about torture.

00:28:47.000 So that's the new America. 0.91

00:28:49.000 And the sickos on talk radio, the sickos on the nightly news, the sickos in the editorials, the left and the right, promoting torture, saying torture's good. 0.92

00:28:59.000 I mean, I don't want to belabor this, but it's horrible.

00:29:04.000 And now these troops are coming back to America, they're going to domestically run our cities, Newsweek reporting.

00:29:11.000 You know, Connecticut newspapers reporting it.

00:29:13.000 I mean, it's just every day now.

00:29:15.000 They're going to be running our lives, interrogating us, fighting terror, though!

00:29:18.000 You're not for terror!

00:29:19.000 Well, the problem is Section 802 of the first Patriot Act.

00:29:23.000 Now they've got Patriot Act 2, Victory Act 2, strengthening the Patriot Act, which I call 2.5.

00:29:31.000 And they're going to be running our lives in all... Suspicion of misdemeanor is terrorism!

00:29:38.000 So we're all caught in this, and I've got some articles on that we'll get to next.

00:29:42.000 Finally more reports on it.

00:29:44.000 And Paul Watson and Nick Baggish, Dr. Nick Baggish as well, stay with us.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:33:44.000 I want to get into more admissions now that the Patriot Act's being used against the general public in non-terrorism related cases.

00:33:52.000 But using double-think and double-speak, the government says, well, all crime, all suspicion of crime is terrorism, and these chilling articles where the military's taking over major cities and towns and secret police are everywhere.

00:34:05.000 Again, this is Newsweek, folks.

00:34:07.000 I mean, how many years have you heard his diatribe on this here on air?

00:34:10.000 As I saw it frighteningly grow.

00:34:13.000 Legions of secret police, young punks, driving around in black sports cars with MP5 submachine guns.

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00:34:35.000 It's like, you know, they implement Patriot Act 2 years before they even pass it.

00:34:39.000 This is how they operate.

00:34:41.000 But bringing up Paul Watson.

00:34:43.000 Paul, good to have you on the broadcast with us.

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00:34:56.000 Well, we just posted a bunch of interviews just yesterday from last week, basically.

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00:36:17.000 Also, there's Paul Watson's book, Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terror, and the New World Order.

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00:36:33.000 Tell the folks what Order Out of Chaos covers, Paul.

00:36:36.000 Well, it's basically a hop around the globe from Russia to England to the US to Israel and prove that, you know, terrorism is state-sponsored in every major case over the past 20, 30 years.

00:36:49.000 And on top of that, it's got a chapter on torture, which I was talking about, we were talking about.

00:36:55.000 Two years ago.

00:36:56.000 So it's only a pre-show.

00:36:57.000 Also, you get into the missile pod.

00:37:00.000 You wrote your book a year and a half ago.

00:37:01.000 It was published, what, 9, 10, 11 months ago.

00:37:05.000 You covered the missile pod on the bottom of one of the aircraft going into the World Trade Center.

00:37:09.000 One of the first to do that.

00:37:10.000 That's in the book.

00:37:12.000 Yeah, one of the first to be attacked for it as well.

00:37:15.000 Because the leap of conclusion in the Vanity Fair piece, which we were featured in in the May issue, My contention that pod missiles were evident and that the planes were likely remote-controlled was compared by the author of that article to racism.

00:37:32.000 Now, try and make that connection, because I can't, and it's because other people, not me, not you, have said that, you know, a bunch of ragheads couldn't have done this. 1.00

00:37:40.000 We never said that, but they take those comments and splice them in with what we're saying, and it all amounts to racism, apparently.

00:37:48.000 That's right.

00:37:49.000 It's just amazing.

00:37:50.000 Almost like the BBC last week, it said, well, a bunch of world leaders are meeting in secret, but McVeigh and Bin Laden think the Mueller murder is bad.

00:37:59.000 It's like guilt by association.

00:38:01.000 Well, it isn't working.

00:38:02.000 I had Jim Tucker on yesterday and he said that it was front page of a bunch of major daily Italian newspapers putting Tucker and others in a good light.

00:38:10.000 So, we've gone the last five years from Bilderberg Group doesn't exist, you believe in space aliens if you say it does, and now, okay, world leaders are meeting, 120 of them, and they're minions, but, you know, royalty, but if you want to cover it, you're still a weirdo.

00:38:27.000 Well yeah, the BBC themselves covered it the year before, where they said that Bilderberg announced the European Union years before it existed.

00:38:35.000 So I guess BBC themselves, in equating Bilderberg with having power, are, you know, racist.

00:38:42.000 Or with Bin Laden or McVeigh.

00:38:45.000 Exactly.

00:38:45.000 Or whoever this British nail bomber was, they mentioned him too.

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00:39:42.000 zero four and these videos folks are the preeminent

00:39:46.000 films on nine eleven I've seen them all, and I could carry some other great films, but they only cover certain aspects of 9-11.

00:39:51.000 You know, the architecture of the buildings, the Pentagon, that's Eric Huffman's videos do that, and they're great.

00:39:57.000 My videos cover the whole spectrum of government-sponsored terror, and just, you know, cover dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of aspects of it.

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00:40:18.000 Paul, I don't want to spend a lot more time on this, but I want to talk about Michael Moore's new film, Fahrenheit 9-11.

00:40:24.000 And, you know, the New York Post came out a few weeks ago and said that he basically ripped me off.

00:40:28.000 I don't particularly believe that.

00:40:30.000 You know, it's a public thing that happened.

00:40:33.000 Anybody can make a film about it.

00:40:35.000 I know we're the first to put a film out on the subject, of course, and then we put out others.

00:40:39.000 But now we've found out that there is this PR firm that's basically a GOP arm telling people to call and try to shut it down at the theaters. 0.98

00:40:48.000 They're fools, that's only going to backfire on them. 0.89

00:40:51.000 But here's CNN and others picking up on this like this is a legitimate story, and they're not getting into the fact that some of these theaters are now being threatened, and I think this is despicable. 0.99

00:41:01.000 What do you think about it?

00:41:03.000 I obviously haven't seen the video yet, but in a sense a lot of these left-wing presentations that do delve into 9-11 are obvious, you know, limited hangouts.

00:41:13.000 These people are gatekeepers.

00:41:15.000 It's like with Democracy Now!, the left-wing media organisation.

00:41:20.000 Anyone who talks about 9-11 in the sense that there was government involvement, not just prior knowledge, or business dealings with, you know, representatives of Bin Laden and Bush, anyone that talks about actual involvement is castigated and in many cases not allowed on the show.

00:41:36.000 In fact, Democracy Now!

00:41:37.000 had an author by the name of David Ray Griffin on a couple of weeks ago and that caused a storm on the internet.

00:41:44.000 Because the presenter, in a debate with a debunker with this author, and the author was basically, he wrote a book about Pearl Harbor, said that there was inside involvement, they knew it was going to happen.

00:41:55.000 And the host, Amy Goodman, attacked the author of this book and supported the presentation of the debunker.

00:42:03.000 But it's now admitted we have the Pentagon, at that time Department of War, documents where they knew days before the date of the attack and let it happen.

00:42:13.000 Well, exactly, and that's been known ever since it happened in some circles.

00:42:18.000 But again, you will get these left-wingers that act as gatekeepers in that they only allow a portion of the information out, and it's always the least damning information.

00:42:29.000 And so that's what I see going on with the morphing.

00:42:32.000 But then again, the revelations that are in that film, most specifically the grounding of all commercial air traffic and the Exits of the Bin Laden family, which was, you know, approved by Bush apparently, or whoever makes the decisions for Bush.

00:42:47.000 They've got the documents, Jim.

00:42:50.000 And so, that in itself, they don't want that kind of thing getting out.

00:42:54.000 So, any attempt to prevent it from getting out, I think, as you said, is a big mistake, because it will only draw more attention.

00:43:01.000 And that's why people should get our films.

00:43:03.000 They need to get my videos, folks.

00:43:04.000 It says, new objections to Fahrenheit 9-11.

00:43:07.000 Group asked public to call executives at theaters where film critical of White House will be shown.

00:43:13.000 And what really happened is reporting.

00:43:14.000 They did the trace back on the internet and found out it was this PR firm that then tried to erase that.

00:43:20.000 And now that they've been exposed, they're going ahead and going public.

00:43:23.000 And it says that a conservative organization, yeah, a real conservative, called Move Forward America, or Move America Forward, formed in May to rally support for U.S.

00:43:33.000 troops in the war on terror, has asked the public to call and email executives at TheaterChange, scheduled to show the film according to vanity, I mean variety, Michael Moore has the right to free speech, said MAF Chairman Howard Kalugin, according to Variety, but so do millions of Americans who find this anti-military propaganda and attacks on our troops offensive.

00:43:56.000 So again, oh, Moore's a leftist, so it must all be lies.

00:43:59.000 Well, Moore does say in Dude, Where's My Country that the U.N.

00:44:03.000 should take America over.

00:44:04.000 So he tells the truth about 9-11, limits the amount of exposure, but tells the truth about a few issues, but then says, oh, see, America's bad, the E.U.

00:44:11.000 needs to take us over.

00:44:13.000 And again, I said two years ago, Paul, that they were going to bring 9-11 out, but then say it was a right-wing group in America that did it, and then the globalists get to get the power of the police state out of it, while also blaming conservatives in America.

00:44:26.000 Well, and from what I've read of the Moore film, he actually blames the attack, ultimately, not on even the Bush administration, but on Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, which are basically just the client terrorist alliance states for the globalists.

00:44:43.000 So they're not implicitly responsible, they just, you know, ensure the safe passage of these terrorists that are controlled by the CIA.

00:44:50.000 And so, I think his conclusion in the video, obviously I haven't seen it, but from what I've read the reviews, He blames it on these third world countries, basically.

00:45:00.000 How did Saudi Arabia make Norad stand down or call Mayor Willie Brown and tell him not to flood New York the night before?

00:45:05.000 How did they do that?

00:45:10.000 Obviously that, you know, that they had the opportunity to hand over Bin Laden, as did several other countries, but the Bush administration rejected it time and again because they quashed probes to investigate these same individuals.

00:45:23.000 Well, overall, people are going to see more film that's going to open their mind up to the facts when they see video of the Bin Ladens getting on the planes. 0.91

00:45:31.000 Well, exactly.

00:45:32.000 all of that and then they'll be more open to the real deal you know it's kind

00:45:35.000 of a step process i would build and see wrote a charity and see bill clinton

00:45:40.000 bombing oklahoma city and go wow this whole things control

00:45:45.000 well exactly i mean it if it opens people's eyes to it and i don't need the

00:45:48.000 internet and do a search for you know nine eleven prior knowledge

00:45:52.000 obviously much more of the informational pop-up level you know right at the top

00:45:56.000 as with every case in google our information is always right at the

00:46:00.000 top of the way so i don't stumble onto it each time so it eventually a

00:46:04.000 problem with our favorite

00:46:07.000 Yeah, so people understand that whatever gets the most hits gets at the top, and we are routinely, most of the time, Paul, all kinds of searches we pop up on top.

00:46:16.000 Well, I mean, try Larry Silverstein.

00:46:18.000 I wonder if Larry Silverstein's ever typed his own name into Google, because in the first ten results, it's about how he admits that he blew up WTC7.

00:46:27.000 There's video of him saying it.

00:46:28.000 It's not like we're making the claim or anything.

00:46:30.000 So, at least they know, they're aware that we're on to them, because it's out there.

00:46:35.000 That's right.

00:46:37.000 That's why they've got to move so quick, Paul.

00:46:39.000 Because they know their system's falling apart.

00:46:41.000 I want to get into US trucks carrying radioactive materials intercepted in Kuwait-Iraq border.

00:46:47.000 More weapons of mass destruction attempts to plant.

00:46:50.000 But first off, Capitol Hill Blue, anti-terror laws target Americans, not just terrorists.

00:46:55.000 Federal and state prosecutors are applying stiff anti-terrorism laws adopted after 9-11 attacks to broad, run-of-the-mill probes of political corruption, financial crimes, and immigration frauds.

00:47:06.000 And it's as if the government gets its way, even routine transactions of buying or selling American homes, already happening, could soon come under the scrutiny of money laundering provisions of the USA Patriot Act.

00:47:16.000 Folks, type Patriot Act compliance in.

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00:47:31.000 Type it into a search engine.

00:47:32.000 The Treasury Department already has caught Financial transactions in casinos, storefront check cashing stores, auto dealers for scrutiny, wants to expand the Patriot Act coverage to home purchases as well.

00:47:46.000 And then it goes into examples of Virginia, anti-terrorism statute, making death penalty offenses to be involved in more than... And it goes on into just everything you can imagine.

00:47:59.000 Bar owners being charged with terrorism for not paying a fee.

00:48:03.000 I mean, Paul, But then the neocons get on radio with their screened phone calls and go, look, no one disagrees with the Patriot Act and it's never been used against a citizen.

00:48:14.000 Well, that's a lie, Paul!

00:48:17.000 Well, it's also been used, as you reported yesterday, that, you know, these artists that have got these biological agents which are involved in the artwork that they create, they're not dangerous to anybody.

00:48:29.000 They're getting arrested now and this goes right back to November 2001, where the Washington Post reported, you know, the headline was, Bush Administration Creates Parallel Legal System, and it's parallel to the Constitution, it's parallel to the law.

00:48:46.000 And the Washington Times said, Martial Law Activated, and it gave the provisions.

00:48:51.000 And in this new bill, reported by Wired News, the Anti-Terrorism Intelligence Tools Improvement Act of 2003, It strengthens the clause whereby the FBI can demand any record from a business, and anyone that discloses that the FBI made the demand gets up to five years in prison.

00:49:12.000 And it's basically a piecemeal version of the bill they tried to pass.

00:49:16.000 Well, it's gag orders, and this is from Capitol Hill Blue.

00:49:20.000 The FBI has used the Patriot Act provisions in a political corruption probe involving a Las Vegas girly bar.

00:49:26.000 Concerning zoning.

00:49:28.000 Oh, zoning is now... And the Justice Department reported to the House Judiciary Committee last year that it used a new law in probes of credit card fraud, theft from a bank account.

00:49:37.000 I mean, it has nothing to do with it, Paul!

00:49:40.000 Well, the new one is a piecemeal version of the one they tried to pass during the capture of Saddam. 0.61

00:49:46.000 So they're getting it through in piecemeal because the initial bill was rejected.

00:49:51.000 And, you know, with a legal system whereby now they're arresting eight-year-old girls for stealing bunny rabbits, then what do you expect?

00:49:59.000 Four students have a limited food fight, and they arrest them and charge them with all these felonies.

00:50:06.000 Yeah, students who wear a baseball cap backwards are getting arrested now.

00:50:12.000 And so, the one out of Capitol Hill Blue, they took the article from Scripps Howard News Service, so it's not about partisanship.

00:50:20.000 And, as you said, they're applying the Patriot Act to the routine sale of homes or any transaction over a certain amount of money which, you know, becomes subject to investigation.

00:50:31.000 And it's the same process as the anti-racketeering laws which they brought in the 70s, which they're now routinely using against pro-life demonstrators who weren't processed abortion.

00:50:43.000 And the left loves that, so now they can't have any rallies.

00:50:46.000 They get racketeering thrown on them.

00:50:48.000 Well, exactly.

00:50:50.000 Amazing!

00:50:51.000 Folks, we haven't even scratched the tip of the iceberg.

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00:54:11.000 Oh Alright, my friends, let's go ahead and take some calls.

00:54:16.000 We've got Dr. Nick Begich coming up, direct shot down with us as well, so stay with us for that.

00:54:20.000 A ton of news and information.

00:54:22.000 Dylan in Texas, you're on the air, welcome.

00:54:25.000 Good to talk to you, Dylan.

00:54:27.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:54:28.000 Y'all are doing a great job, gotta commend ya.

00:54:33.000 I really recommend anyone to read from the book of Exodus, chapter 20, verses 2 through 5, otherwise known as the first and second commandments.

00:54:44.000 Okay, but we live in a pluralist society.

00:54:46.000 Not everyone goes to scripture.

00:54:48.000 Okay.

00:54:49.000 Well, I recommend everyone get educated about standard operating procedures of aviation and also the laws of physics.

00:54:59.000 Okay, how does Exodus tie into the laws of physics?

00:55:04.000 Well, actually, Exodus, the first two commandments tie into what you were talking before your partner came on, and that is that the people are putting government in the place of the Lord.

00:55:23.000 No, we're making government God.

00:55:24.000 Right.

00:55:27.000 Or I should say government's making itself God and telling us that's normal.

00:55:30.000 And then the laws of aviation, what about the impossibility of the official story in 9-11?

00:55:36.000 Well, I'm an Air Force Reserve veteran myself, and I just know a little bit about aviation.

00:55:43.000 I just happen to know that that was the only day that NORAD stood down.

00:55:49.000 Yeah, if you're in Cessna, I've been in the Cessna with my dad.

00:55:53.000 And he has to go around a storm, and he calls them and tells them that, but they still radio in, and if you don't respond, they'll launch fighters on you, and they'll be on you in ten minutes!

00:56:02.000 But magically on this day, hours go by!

00:56:05.000 Okay, but these are a lot of facts, too, and a lot of people don't want to let the facts get in the way of their emotions, so I can address that as well.

00:56:16.000 Yeah, in my opinion, my savior Jesus Christ wants to appeal to my emotions, but a lot of people don't believe in that.

00:56:23.000 They believe in their television, though, and I don't know, but I think a lot of people just need to turn their television off.

00:56:28.000 That's all I have to say.

00:56:29.000 Alright, thanks for the call, sir.

00:56:31.000 I appreciate it.

00:56:31.000 Any comments, Paul?

00:56:33.000 Well, I had an interesting conversation with a liberal on the weekend talking about, you know, the emotion versus facts, and it was on abortion.

00:56:42.000 And I said, you know, I know abortion's wrong, just as I know someone walking down the street trying to eat a hot dog through their nose is wrong. 0.88

00:56:49.000 And they actually tried to argue with me that eating a hot dog through your nose was not necessarily wrong.

00:56:55.000 So, these people have no moral compass, so you cannot debate them with facts, because they run on emotion.

00:57:02.000 So, in many cases, it's impossible, and you just have to move on.

00:57:05.000 Yeah, Mark in New York.

00:57:07.000 Go ahead, Mark.

00:57:12.000 And I'm in the healthcare business?

00:57:14.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:14.000 And I want all the healthcare professionals to do this if they can do it.

00:57:18.000 I put TVs in all my operatories.

00:57:20.000 And I play your tapes in front of these patients.

00:57:24.000 And tell them this is the History Channel, and I'll tell them after a while, I'll tell them the truth.

00:57:29.000 But they're astonished.

00:57:32.000 They're astonished.

00:57:32.000 I answer, you should see the faces on these people.

00:57:35.000 It's like some bright light came and smashed them right in the head.

00:57:39.000 Really, so what do they say after they watch 20 minutes of a video?

00:57:42.000 They don't know what to say.

00:57:43.000 They go, you've got to be kidding me.

00:57:45.000 You know, things like that.

00:57:46.000 It's like, is this guy for real?

00:57:49.000 Yeah, he's for real.

00:57:50.000 Go look it up yourself.

00:57:52.000 It's unbelievable.

00:57:53.000 And hopefully, he'll be getting a lot of orders.

00:57:55.000 Well, great.

00:57:58.000 I think it's such a good idea.

00:57:59.000 I'll tell you what.

00:58:01.000 If doctors and what not, uh, grabbers in this healthcare field.

00:58:05.000 I have TV's in my waiting room everywhere.

00:58:08.000 Just plug them in.

00:58:10.000 And if anybody's listening to me, just buy the tapes.

00:58:13.000 You said you can copy them, but I just don't buy them.

00:58:16.000 I'd rather just support you.

00:58:18.000 Put those tapes in and let them play.

00:58:19.000 And don't let them watch the TV.

00:58:21.000 Let them watch those tapes.

00:58:22.000 Well, I appreciate what you're doing, sir.

00:58:24.000 And, you know, a lot of restaurants and others are doing that, too.

00:58:29.000 Or people go to Sunday school and, you know, the Sunday school teacher pops one in.

00:58:34.000 And that's how we're going to win this country back, is one mind at a time, with the truth.

00:58:38.000 Anything else, Mark?

00:58:42.000 I guess Mark's gone.

00:58:43.000 Good job, Mark.

00:58:44.000 Alright, Paul Watson's riding shotgun with us.

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01:00:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:16.000 All right, my friends, it's already Tuesday, the 15th day of June, 2004.

01:00:20.000 We're into the second hour of global transmission against tyranny.

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01:00:55.000 Kind of having a roundtable discussion.

01:00:56.000 We've got Dr. Nick Begich, an expert on a lot of secret government programs, government documents, the new world order in general.

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01:01:27.000 Dr. Nick Baggage, good to have you on with us, my friend.

01:01:29.000 Well, it's good to be back with you.

01:01:30.000 It's been quite a while.

01:01:32.000 Yeah, for those that don't know who you are, tell us a little bit about yourself.

01:01:35.000 Sure.

01:01:36.000 I have a background here in Alaska in both politics and a number of other things.

01:01:42.000 Science is my main interest.

01:01:44.000 I did a lot of work here in Alaska over the years, the last 10 years, predominantly reporting on new technologies and weapon systems I've written.

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01:01:59.000 Also past president of the Alaska Anchorage Council of Education, which is an organization of educators here in Alaska.

01:02:07.000 You also work with the Native Americans.

01:02:10.000 Right.

01:02:10.000 I work as a tribal administrator for Chickaloon Village, which is a federally recognized tribe here in Alaska, South Central.

01:02:18.000 And I've been working with them for about five years on a number of projects.

01:02:23.000 And I have a doctorate in traditional and complementary medicine as well.

01:02:28.000 Well, I mean, there's a lot to talk about, but I'm sure you want to get into this whole war, what the New World Order is up to, a lot of the weapons they're deploying.

01:02:35.000 A few months ago, the Boston Globe and several other publications said, oh, the NSA is watching you, and DARPA doesn't want to just have brain scanners on the street corners.

01:02:48.000 They want to have systems that actually control the mind.

01:02:52.000 They're developing those.

01:02:53.000 Did you see that article?

01:02:55.000 You know, I didn't see that particular one, but this is a theme that shows up pretty regularly in military and in government writings.

01:03:03.000 You see the evolution of the technology, which we've tracked now for over ten years, The capability, the ability to influence not just emotional states, but direct interaction with the human brain has been a long sought after desire of not just military planners, but scientists around the world for various reasons.

01:03:24.000 It's kind of the holy grail.

01:03:26.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:03:27.000 The idea of actually being able to literally interact with the brain in the same way you interact with your home computer, being able to manipulate outcomes and an activity dealing with the strongest, most powerful computer in the world, the human brain, that has been.

01:03:45.000 And you know, in the research that goes into this started way back, really way back in the in the 40s and 50s, a lot of interest in being able to influence a behavior, particularly after the Korean War, where we had returning prisoners and the coin or the word brainwashing was coined.

01:04:04.000 And from there, Lots of interest in this area, both theoretically for good, but when you start messing around with what happens with thoughts and the brains of individuals, you're talking about something that most have avoided and certainly most of us would agree is a domain that shouldn't be interfered with.

01:04:26.000 We're talking to Dr. Nick Begich.

01:04:27.000 We've got Paul Watson riding shotgun with us.

01:04:29.000 I've got a whole host of news stories, issues I want to talk about.

01:04:32.000 I want to get into the science of mind control, the different grades of it, just from propaganda down to electrical stimuli and control, torture, the Iraq situation, Dr. Nick Begich's predictions for the next year, and your calls.

01:04:48.000 So it's Alex Jones, Dr. Nick Begich, and Paul Joseph Watson, straight ahead.

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01:08:01.000 I'm I think the most important question that I can bring up to our guest is, what is the New World Order?

01:08:12.000 What is its goal?

01:08:13.000 What are we fighting against?

01:08:15.000 First off, Paul Joseph Watson, then we'll go to Dr. Begich and get his response to this.

01:08:19.000 Paul, what is the New World Order?

01:08:20.000 What's its goals?

01:08:22.000 And how do we stop it?

01:08:24.000 Well, it's an alliance across the world in a kind of spiderweb way, where it's basically the head of it is the Anglo-Saxon Mafia, which is headed at the moment, in my opinion, by Skull & Bones, which is obviously, publicly, the American branch of the German Illuminati.

01:08:45.000 And the Skull & Bones group has continued that program in America and in Britain today, mainly.

01:08:52.000 And their goal is, as we know, world government, world army, world police state, world microchip population and world mind control and the basic elimination of any kind of common sense or moral code which humans naturally are supposed to, you know, exhibit.

01:09:10.000 And that's why the attack on us is not just on a Not just on a political level, but on a moral level, via the media which they control.

01:09:21.000 So, how we can fight it is basically rewiring people's brains, because as soon as people are exposed to just a kernel of truth, then that destroys a lifetime of lies, and you can gauge that by people who react to shock and horror that is put upon them by government-perpetrated events and their immediate reaction now is to immediately shift to the conspiratorial view of these events.

01:09:48.000 So basically their brains are being rewired to react differently and that's the battle for the mind is the battle that we're engaged in currently.

01:09:57.000 Very well said.

01:09:58.000 Dr. Begich, comments?

01:10:00.000 Yeah, you know, I think that's pretty well true.

01:10:03.000 You know, the real ultimate test when you look at all of the writings in this area, the idea of Controlling individuals is really the ultimate answer, whether people look at us as consumers or taxpayers or something less than what we truly are, which is human beings.

01:10:21.000 And, you know, human beings have a lot more dimension than simply the next person to purchase the widget that whoever's going to create is going to create.

01:10:31.000 And I think a lot of what we've seen in the last couple of decades is this dehumanizing of individuals, the lack of Recognition of individual sovereignty and what that really means as the root of a democratic republic.

01:10:44.000 And I think that's what's being attacked, is this idea that sovereign individuals still can make a huge difference, that we're created in the Creator's image to be able to make those differences.

01:10:56.000 And taking that away from us is really what a lot of it's about.

01:11:00.000 When you look at the idea of influencing human behavior, ultimately controlling the mind, is target and when you look back at even uh... some of the founders of uh... this movement this political movement of of one world government go back to the writings of big new brzezinski when he wrote between two ages you know back in the seventies which is pretty much a forecast for the future you know it was written uh... as a forecast if you read it today is where it's a history uh... and and what it talks about it one very important part

01:11:31.000 Is the idea of technologies emerging that would be able to influence human behavior directly?

01:11:37.000 By the time he became National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, some of that technology had already been created and has continued to advance since the 70s.

01:11:47.000 Now you've got a situation where that technology exists today, it's spoken about openly in the literature, and the question, the only question is, Would political powers utilize that technology to further their political lands?

01:12:02.000 Okay, I want to ask both of you, and Dr. Begich first, and Paul, what do you think, and it's obviously all interconnected, but what is the most important issue right now?

01:12:10.000 I mean, here's just a few of them.

01:12:12.000 I look at Newsweek, admitting what we already knew, secret police military all over Austin, intimidating conservatives, liberals, showing up at meetings, trying to grab cameras away from me, at public events, Uh, spying on people and the Pentagon says, yeah, there's a new bill, we're gonna be running your life, running Neighborhood Watch, total into posse comitatus, or is it the torture in Iraq and in many other countries by our government?

01:12:36.000 Uh, is it, uh, you know, the Pan-American Union?

01:12:40.000 I mean, there's all these things happening right now.

01:12:44.000 Uh, there's the cancer viruses and the vaccines, there's the poison in the water, the chemtrailing.

01:12:49.000 I mean, out of all these issues, Explore one for us, and then show us how it's interconnected into the driveshaft of this larger global mechanism, Doctor.

01:13:01.000 Well, let's look at biometrics as a good example of that.

01:13:06.000 This is the idea of taking unique measurements from an individual in order to determine identity.

01:13:12.000 People think, well, if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?

01:13:16.000 The problem is what is hidden and what is legitimate to withhold from your government, from others around you.

01:13:25.000 And those are decisions individuals make.

01:13:27.000 I think the biggest threat right now is this fear that permeates the entire country in a way that takes away Our ability to self-govern by injecting us in a situation where we're almost near panic with a lot of folks.

01:13:44.000 So it's the government-sponsored terror, the stimuli they give us, like the amoeba putting the heat source in the petri dish.

01:13:50.000 We race away, and then they race us into their waiting jaws, basically.

01:13:55.000 So I would agree, it's the government-sponsored terror.

01:13:58.000 Through that fear, it causes a chilling effect, and then is the pretext for the total lockdown of society.

01:14:03.000 Absolutely, and I think that's exactly what we've seen.

01:14:06.000 In fact, it was predicted back in the late 80s, early 90s, in writings coming out of the U.S.

01:14:12.000 Army War College, that exactly the situation we're in today is a situation that was expected And actually required in order to institute new technologies that in those days, not too many years ago, would be strongly resisted.

01:14:26.000 Well, that's like PNAC, the president's top 25 think tank guys, including Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolowitz.

01:14:33.000 They said in 2000, we need helpful Pearl Harbor events.

01:14:37.000 Now, I don't think Pearl Harbor was helpful.

01:14:38.000 I know Paul and Nick don't.

01:14:41.000 But to them, they said, helpful terror attacks, and then Brzezinski, in a 98 book, said the same thing.

01:14:46.000 We need terror attacks for imperial mobilization. 0.99

01:14:50.000 Paul, can you elaborate on that?

01:14:52.000 Well, number one, what do you think the most important thing is?

01:14:54.000 And then, on the PNAC, on the imperial mobilization, calling for the terror attacks, and we'll get Dr. Begich's comments on the imperial mobilization.

01:15:03.000 Well, I think the major issue is maybe not terror attacks because, you know, that's just a means to an end, which is to create fear and subjugate humans to an authority of the government.

01:15:15.000 So I think that's just can be classed as a tactic and not really a major movement because, you know, they will interchange those kind of tactics that do create fear.

01:15:24.000 What I see as the main attack on is the moral attack, the removal of basic human values, the removal of faith, trust, community.

01:15:33.000 You mean the legalization of cloning?

01:15:37.000 You mean the systematic attack on the family unit and community?

01:15:42.000 Are you talking about promoting torture?

01:15:46.000 Yeah, because it subjugates the basic human impulse.

01:15:49.000 It beats down that basic human aspiration for freedom and confidence in those around them.

01:15:56.000 But on another level, it's via television propaganda and the creation of culture itself.

01:16:02.000 Because that's where most people draw their identity from.

01:16:05.000 It's culture and what the so-called idols of their generation are doing.

01:16:09.000 I mean, take reality television, for example.

01:16:12.000 In many countries in the world, including America, Australia and Britain, We've got the emergence of reality television and programs like this Big Brother program, which the method that they use, from my perspective, is that they create these idols in the form of reality television.

01:16:31.000 And then the idol gets a microchip and everybody's got to get it because it's so cool.

01:16:36.000 How do they use fads to control us, Dr. Begich?

01:16:38.000 Well, again, you know, this is an opportunity for the herd mentality of getting people to sort of rush off into the same direction.

01:16:46.000 You know, they did it with panic over various flus and flu season vaccines, if you remember, a couple years back.

01:16:54.000 And really what the story there was was excess supply and not enough demand, you know.

01:16:59.000 And they find out afterwards what everybody already knew, that the stuff didn't work.

01:17:04.000 You know, ultimately, getting people to move in masses is not as difficult As one might think.

01:17:10.000 Fear being the primary motivator.

01:17:13.000 Going back to the U.S. 0.97

01:17:14.000 Army War College for a moment, a document written in the 90s, the Revolutionary Military Affairs and Conflicts Short of War.

01:17:22.000 That was Colonel Alexander!

01:17:24.000 Right, and you know, they're discussing a lot of techniques, things that were coming.

01:17:29.000 Microcircuits, for instance, for implantation under the skin was openly spoken about in that document.

01:17:35.000 And then the discussion about how how much americans would resist that at that particular time and now today after nine eleven you hear people openly talking about the idea of well maybe this isn't such a bad thing you know they're talking about using it for prisoners instead of ankle bracelets using it for elders that are losing mental faculties or children people are afraid are going to get kidnapped when you really look at threat and real threat i mean you're you've got bigger risk of going to the doctor and being uh... uh... subjected to a medical malpractice than you do

01:18:07.000 Many of the events.

01:18:08.000 Or getting in your car, or being struck by lightning.

01:18:11.000 Right, and so here we are building these huge elaborate systems.

01:18:15.000 I mean, think about how much money we're spending in this war effort.

01:18:18.000 And those private infrastructures of the police state are then owned by the government officials.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, and when you look at what happens at the end of the day, I mean, who's benefiting from this war in Iraq and Afghanistan?

01:18:30.000 Ultimately, it's those that are supplying the hardware uh... to continue that effort when you think about two hundred billion dollars you know that would go an awful long way to solving whatever energy uh... problems we have that take us to the middle east in the first place but that is not in the interest of those that control the uh... industrial military complex the world today it's really in their interest to continue these kinds of conflicts in order to make sure that there's a ready market and supply as well as balance uh... and their own white papers say they want perpetual war

01:19:04.000 But they know that 99.9% of people don't sit around reading white papers like we do!

01:19:09.000 That's exactly it.

01:19:10.000 You know, the other part of it, when you look at, you know, this whole revolution in military affairs was about technology, but they added a dimension in about a year ago, they started referring to it as a revolution in military and political affairs, because ultimately it's the politics that's the target, and even the European Parliament calls these technologies weapons of political control.

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01:24:02.000 you The Globalists have most of the capital.

01:24:05.000 They create the capital out of fiat.

01:24:08.000 The true, original root of their power.

01:24:13.000 But overall, their programs worldwide are behind schedule.

01:24:16.000 They're running into major opposition.

01:24:20.000 Dr. Baggage and of course, Paul Watson.

01:24:23.000 Your forecast for the future.

01:24:25.000 I mean, is it bleak?

01:24:26.000 Or, I mean, are you seeing the awakening that I'm seeing?

01:24:30.000 I mean, an accelerated awakening across the political spectrum?

01:24:34.000 Paul, Nick, what are you seeing happening?

01:24:37.000 Well, you know, this is Nick.

01:24:39.000 I think, you know, that there is an acceleration of interest, but at the same time, I think there's an acceleration of activity to keep people Really enslaved to a system that is not working well.

01:24:52.000 I mean, when you look at the political environment right now, we've got an election year, so there's a lot of happy talk.

01:24:58.000 At the same time, there's a lot of disaster in the offing.

01:25:01.000 My personal view is we're in for a lot tougher times before things turn around.

01:25:06.000 Although, there's a segment of the population, maybe 10-12% is my estimation of people starting to really wake up to a lot of these issues.

01:25:16.000 And that's enough to make significant change in this country, but at the same time I think we have a long way to go before the average person really recognizes what the real threats are.

01:25:26.000 By the way, we're seeing a lot of inflationary developments across the board with key staple items like milk, cheese, not just fuel, but then they're telling us everything's wonderful, but all the real economic numbers show things are in deep trouble.

01:25:45.000 Paul Watson?

01:25:48.000 As far as forecasts go, I see if they go ahead and try and introduce the draft on a widespread basis in spring of next year, which they have announced in many articles that have come out recently, and they're all bills in Congress, Then I see nothing more than people who are addicted and have been conditioned to be addicted to these lifestyles that they at that point on knowing that they will have to be included in this draft will openly you know engage in dissent and I see nothing less than

01:26:19.000 Civil War breaking out in America, basically, and it won't be a civil war started or led by, you know, what we call the Patriot community.

01:26:27.000 It will be on a widespread basis because people have been so conditioned to become addicted to their lifestyles that a direct removal of that will cause a mass uprising.

01:26:37.000 That's why they've got garrisons of riot troops ready everywhere with provocateurs to go in and neutralize protests.

01:26:43.000 Dr. Baggage?

01:26:44.000 You know, I think that when people really realize the full extent of the abuse that happens at the hands of government, there will be revolution.

01:26:52.000 Hopefully it'll be the kind of revolution that, you know, is civil and sensible, not the kind that results in a lot more violence.

01:27:00.000 I mean, if you look at Eastern Europe, you look at some of these places that have collapsed over the years, it happens by one of the most, the only threat the military planners can't plan for, which is called spontaneous revolution.

01:27:12.000 It's when people Don't really wait around for leadership to emerge.

01:27:16.000 They just finally get to the point one day where they go, hey, you know, what's happening isn't working and we want to change.

01:27:21.000 And when you see that kind of spontaneous demand for change, and I don't think we're quite there yet, that's when All things get converted.

01:27:31.000 But we see them preemptively gearing up for that.

01:27:34.000 Their social planners, their computer programs, mapping all this, are definitely showing that.

01:27:39.000 Absolutely.

01:27:40.000 When you look at just the general unrest around the world, what do you do when you want to suppress folks?

01:27:46.000 Well, you create enough fear so they go internal again, which has been working fairly effectively the last few years.

01:27:52.000 But at this point, I think people are starting to see it.

01:27:55.000 The big concern I have, for predictions for the future, is what happened in Spain just before their elections.

01:28:03.000 That kind of a major event occurring in the United States, I think that is a fear that many of us have seen played out.

01:28:11.000 The government is saying it's going to happen!

01:28:13.000 Yeah, and given that, I think that, again, sort of a preparation of the public for more bad news that Pretty much understood to be that.

01:28:24.000 I mean, anyone looking at these issues internationally to suggest that there isn't going to be another major event is the more far-fetched idea.

01:28:33.000 The fact is, there will be.

01:28:36.000 additional event.

01:28:37.000 The question becomes is how do we respond?

01:28:39.000 What is a necessary response?

01:28:40.000 And more importantly... Well, they've been telling us, Doctor, how to respond.

01:28:44.000 When there's an attack, give up your liberty, submit to us.

01:28:47.000 We've got to be getting the message out of who stands to gain from this, who's been behind the other terror attacks, preemptively preempting them.

01:28:53.000 Go ahead.

01:28:54.000 Yeah, and I think that's it.

01:28:56.000 You know, when you look at what really happens in all of this, none of this is unanticipated.

01:29:00.000 When you look at planning documents going way, way back into the eighties and nineties, The expectation of these kinds of events was there.

01:29:08.000 More importantly, the planning about what would happen if, and the what-ifs have been played out perfectly in the last couple years as civil liberties have disappeared and a tyranny has emerged coming from our government.

01:29:21.000 An opaque government we can't even see into anymore.

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01:33:07.000 Alright folks, we've reached the halfway point of this global transmission. It's tyranny.

01:33:10.000 Dr. Nick Begich is our guest, as well as Paul Joseph Watson.

01:33:14.000 We're gonna go to your calls here in just a moment at 800-259-9231.

01:33:20.000 Dr. Baggett, tell us the listeners about your websites and some of the great publications you put out.

01:33:25.000 Sure.

01:33:26.000 We have a website at earthpulse.com and essentially we have a number of things posted there.

01:33:36.000 For those that are interested in the harp story, there's quite a few articles on that story.

01:33:41.000 There's a number of essays that were written.

01:33:45.000 Really to motivate people for change, to give people ideas and thoughts about what we might be able to do to start to turn some of this around.

01:33:54.000 That's under a button called Empowerment on the front page of that website.

01:33:58.000 A lot of information.

01:33:59.000 I encourage people to take the information, pass it on.

01:34:03.000 There's a lot there.

01:34:04.000 A lot of it is very well footnoted, which is one of our hallmarks.

01:34:07.000 When we talk about this stuff, we actually lay out a foundation on which it's built and That kind of background, I think, is really useful.

01:34:16.000 We have a number of books I've written.

01:34:19.000 Angels Don't Play This Harp, which is co-authored with Gene Manning.

01:34:22.000 Many are familiar with that work.

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01:35:05.000 And what's the website again for folks?

01:35:06.000 The website is earthpulse.com.

01:35:09.000 Okay, we're going to go to some calls here in a few minutes, but I do want to get some into heart what it is for folks that don't know.

01:35:15.000 I just read an article a few months ago where the government boosted the power at the Array.

01:35:21.000 Also, Chemtrails, get your take on that.

01:35:24.000 But before we go to these calls, Paul Watson, there's a lot of key news here I want to go through with both of you guys, but any other key news items you think folks need to know about today?

01:35:34.000 Well, apart from those, Vote fraud in the UK because it's an example for the US.

01:35:39.000 We've got examples of mass vote rigging going on in this European election which has just taken place.

01:35:48.000 And it boils down to the same thing in both countries, the elimination of the paper ballots, and so we can go through that.

01:35:55.000 Yeah, we have the CIA, former directors, deputy directors, NSA generals, running the top three voting companies.

01:36:03.000 They've been caught coast-to-coast engaging in fraud.

01:36:05.000 Their own engineers have quit, said it's a fraud.

01:36:07.000 It makes it into one newspaper, then they, you know, die in car wrecks mysteriously.

01:36:12.000 I mean, all this stuff is going on, and then by the time it gets in my local paper, it's, oh, there's a few problems, people are concerned.

01:36:18.000 Dr. Begich, any comments on the electronic vote fraud?

01:36:21.000 Absolutely.

01:36:22.000 You know, my family has a history in politics.

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01:36:28.000 My brother is nine years on the Anchorage Assembly and is mayor of the largest city in Alaska, Anchorage, with half the state's population.

01:36:37.000 You know, this year I'm a candidate for office locally, and I can tell you elections are won by very close margins here.

01:36:43.000 My brother won his by 18 votes, which is how many family members voted that day.

01:36:48.000 And we had paper ballots to back it up when the recounts happened.

01:36:52.000 When you go to a paperless system, these situations will flip the other direction.

01:36:56.000 And anyone who believes that these systems cannot be hacked Are naive.

01:37:01.000 But it's not even hacking.

01:37:02.000 I mean, we have the employees who are convicted computer felons accessing them in the middle of major elections, engineers quitting, saying it's a fraud.

01:37:11.000 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's... We have politicians like Senator Hagel owning the company that people vote for him on, and then the League of Women Voters is arguing against any record.

01:37:22.000 I mean, this is amazing!

01:37:24.000 Yeah, and it's, you know, those are the inside threats.

01:37:26.000 When you consider outside threats, the amount of money spent by China to just figure out how to hack our system is huge. 0.88

01:37:33.000 Anytime that you put a system online that has the ability of determining political outcomes in the West and in the United States, both for the internal and the external threats to our personal freedom and liberty, this is a major mistake.

01:37:46.000 There are some things that do not belong automated, and voting is one of them.

01:37:50.000 But again, this wasn't done by accident.

01:37:53.000 And I think this is why we're seeing so much arrogance by these people.

01:37:57.000 And now they've rephrased us as a democracy, not a republic. 1.00

01:38:00.000 And a democracy of 51% say, kill all the black people, kill all the white people, or take that guy's land, it happens. 1.00

01:38:06.000 In our republic, the minority is protected. 1.00

01:38:09.000 So now they say we're a democracy, and oh look, you voted for slavery!

01:38:12.000 Yeah, you know this, and when you really look at all of it, you know, what's really happened is the erosion of American values, which is again the root that we were speaking about earlier, is the root of this is really the moral questions, the things that make us who we are.

01:38:26.000 You start stripping that away from Americans and recognizing the root of who we are has to do with the Democratic Republic that has a much different concept than a pure democracy.

01:38:37.000 When you look back on that republic and its formation, 6% of the people in this country favored That major change when it first started back 200 years ago, you know that that was a far cry from a majority of

01:38:50.000 There certainly was an enlightened minority.

01:38:52.000 Well, it's like slavery.

01:38:53.000 In like 1800, what, 5%?

01:38:55.000 In some areas, 2% of people were against it, or maybe 1% active.

01:39:00.000 But 60-something years later, that form of slavery was thrown out.

01:39:04.000 So it shows that we're saying the world's round 10 years before they finally admit it.

01:39:10.000 Then overnight, you're a kook to say it's flat, whereas a month before, you were a kook to say it was round.

01:39:15.000 Exactly right.

01:39:16.000 And this is the games that are played to manipulate political outcomes.

01:39:20.000 And again, when you look at the European take on this, which we've looked at pretty thoroughly, we spent a lot of time in Europe, their view of the world is these are all technologies that result in one thing.

01:39:31.000 From their perspective, political control, the manipulation of individuals to receive and enforce and foster political outcomes.

01:39:40.000 When you see that shift, which is a shift that's well underway, if not already installed, That's where the danger lies.

01:39:46.000 Well, also we see the EU, the Pan American Union, all these WTO, all these bodies are dictatorial in nature, and it's like the new Iraqi appointed government.

01:39:57.000 They call it democracy, it's an appointed government.

01:39:59.000 Right.

01:40:00.000 And this is not new either.

01:40:03.000 Why are we in these conflicts?

01:40:04.000 And we can trace the beginnings and the roots of this to our own government's interference with the domestic affairs of other nations.

01:40:11.000 And again, when it comes back to Roost, which is where we are today, who benefits?

01:40:17.000 Yeah, I mean, I have articles out of Connecticut.

01:40:19.000 By the way, Paul, that article about the National Guard taking over the police department, that went to subscription on that site.

01:40:26.000 If you can go in and get that and post it, we need to do that.

01:40:30.000 I even had trouble logging into that newspaper, but I mean, I go back to this.

01:40:35.000 Openly Newsweek saying, troops are going to run your wife and interrogate you and run the neighborhood watch programs.

01:40:41.000 I mean, that's East Germany.

01:40:43.000 That's Russia. 0.84

01:40:44.000 That's not America.

01:40:45.000 Paul Watson comments?

01:40:47.000 Well, it's my personal belief.

01:40:49.000 I don't know whether you agree with it, but That people will, you know, in a cowardly fashion, accept torture of Iraqis and bombing broken back third world countries, you know, indefinitely. 1.00

01:41:02.000 They won't become aware of it, they won't, the innate human instinct to fight will not kick in.

01:41:07.000 Until, you know, the war comes to our shores and when they have to go to the level which is an open declaration of war on the American people because generally people are cowardly and they'll just try to ignore something if it's not, you know, happening in their immediate vicinity.

01:41:25.000 So it's only when it comes home.

01:41:26.000 But openly they're setting up military offices in our cities and have them out harass... Dr. Baggish, were you aware of this?

01:41:33.000 Yeah, you know, there is a lot of shifts in terms of policing.

01:41:38.000 I mean, going to a more of a military model.

01:41:40.000 I mean, that's been happening for years.

01:41:42.000 And one of the, again, coming out of Europe, one of the outcries there is, we're headed the direction they just left.

01:41:49.000 You know, if you look at Eastern Europe, People know what it's like to be oppressed.

01:41:53.000 They know what the tools of oppression are.

01:41:55.000 I know, I talk to Poles and Czechoslovakians and Hungarians and Russians, and they watch our news and they go, man, America's going down.

01:42:02.000 I've seen all this before.

01:42:03.000 Yeah, and that's exactly, exactly what we hear constantly from folks that aren't doing it from a history book or doing it from living experience.

01:42:12.000 They've been there, they've done that, they've experienced it.

01:42:16.000 We may think that we're immune from it in this country, but the creep And that direction is one that's happened a little bit slower, and the frogs are boiling.

01:42:24.000 And we're it.

01:42:26.000 It's happening now.

01:42:28.000 Let's take some calls.

01:42:29.000 Thanks for holding, folks.

01:42:30.000 Paula in Missouri.

01:42:31.000 Go ahead, Paula.

01:42:32.000 Hi, Alex.

01:42:35.000 That movie that Michael Moore put out, that Fahrenheit 9-1-1?

01:42:38.000 Yes.

01:42:38.000 I don't know if you ever mentioned that, but I believe that that was made to discredit your film, Road to Tyranny.

01:42:45.000 And I have a question for Mr. Biggage.

01:42:48.000 Have you ever heard the word weatherman in reference to mind control or population control?

01:42:54.000 I have not heard that, no, not in connection with that.

01:42:58.000 Okay, and Paul Watson had brought up abortion and I feel that this right now what's going on is occultic and what they need right now is blood sacrifices so the abortion is their, I don't know what you would call it, their Their major... Their religious sacrament!

01:43:18.000 Right, and because there were children in the Murray Building and Waco, and it would be interesting to find out if there was a daycare center in any one of those WTC buildings.

01:43:27.000 Oh, there were.

01:43:29.000 And so, abortion is really a big issue for them, so the younger the child, the greater the power they seem to have.

01:43:37.000 Let me get a... Thanks for the call, Paul.

01:43:39.000 Let me get a comment from Paul since you directed that to him.

01:43:42.000 Go ahead, Paul.

01:43:43.000 Well, now we know that there are actually more abortions of disabled children with, you know, symptoms that can be medically fixed than live births.

01:43:53.000 So when it comes to that extent, then you know that we've got a big problem.

01:43:56.000 What is it, 50 million abortions since the 70s?

01:43:59.000 Well, it's a brave new world.

01:44:01.000 And people, I mean, people will accept it in the same way that the neocons will justify torturing Iraqis because they're subhumans and the left will speak out against that all day, rightly so, but then Again, they'll pick on the most defenseless creature imaginable, a fetus, and say that it's okay to support these disgusting procedures to terminate it. 0.60

01:44:24.000 I mean sucking the brains out of babies, they actually go in there with

01:44:29.000 instruments and cut the limbs from piece to piece.

01:44:32.000 And you know most people don't know the procedure itself, they just think that

01:44:35.000 the baby is put to sleep like a dog would be.

01:44:39.000 Also there's a movement here in the United States to ban the new ultrasound.

01:44:45.000 They admit it's not bad for them, but they say, well, it's non-medical so you can't do it, where it shows the 3D image.

01:44:49.000 They don't want you to see, but go into the occult thing that she mentioned.

01:44:53.000 Whether you believe in God or not, folks, and I do, the elite Do believe in the devil.

01:44:58.000 That's what they follow.

01:45:00.000 Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove.

01:45:01.000 You have to at least scientifically admit that.

01:45:05.000 A lot of people go, oh, I don't believe in that stuff.

01:45:07.000 You know, that's crazy. 0.95

01:45:08.000 Well, the point is the globalists do believe in this just like all other psychopaths in the 0.53

01:45:12.000 criminology when you look at it 0.76

01:45:14.000 are the same stuff so this is a religion of psychopaths is this do as thou wilt 0.62

01:45:20.000 others love of death and destruction it just so happens our leaders when we study them do have this religion doctor 0.93

01:45:26.000 baggage in the comments

01:45:28.000 you know i i've been around uh... major political folks most of my life and i can tell

01:45:33.000 you there isn't any one of them i've ever met that doesn't have a very strong

01:45:37.000 uh...

01:45:38.000 religious or philosophical based on who they are and it's figuring out

01:45:42.000 what that is that tells you what their character is

01:45:45.000 I think you're right on target.

01:45:46.000 That's the root of where people are intellectually, spiritually, emotionally, and how that projects into their creation or reality.

01:45:55.000 And either they create in conformity with the Creator or in opposition to it.

01:45:59.000 When you're talking about some of the things that we're speaking about today, I mean this idea of manipulating the mind, you know, Mind Control, if you will, was a cover story in the magazine The Economist in the end of May 2002.

01:46:15.000 And when you look at that whole idea, that's the interference with free will.

01:46:19.000 That's something that even God won't do in most traditions.

01:46:22.000 And here we are, a man not only anticipating it, but excited about the possibilities of controlling people's interior thoughts and ideas in a way that has never been contemplated It's never been even considered by God himself.

01:46:40.000 Well, it's really simple.

01:46:42.000 To have torture, to have secret arrest, they have to sell a cadre that this is normal.

01:46:46.000 It took the Nazis years to get this rolling. 0.89

01:46:49.000 Once they did, it snowballed.

01:46:50.000 And if we have a global elite that know that depleting uranium kills our own troops, and know that it makes them sick, and then bivouac them in Saddam bases that were bombarded with it, knowing they've got, many of them, two rims of radiation, I mean, again, what religion would you have to have to not have morals and to frankly take glee and enjoyment in even killing and maiming your own troops?

01:47:14.000 I mean, morally, I feel guilty if I'm rude to my wife or rude to a neighbor or do something backhanded and then I always go back and say I'm sorry or don't do it again.

01:47:23.000 You know, as I grow in the hierarchy of needs, I become more moral and realize how immoral I truly am.

01:47:28.000 Whereas these people plunge in the other direction of the paradigm, in the dark side, getting more and more immoral, and they have to enjoy the immoralness, or they couldn't live with it.

01:47:38.000 Do you see what I'm saying, Paul and Doctor?

01:47:40.000 Yeah, I mean, it's...

01:47:42.000 That's the definition of decadence.

01:47:44.000 It's making the bizarre seem normal.

01:47:46.000 Which is why, through the media and through entertainment shows, which are, you know, ostensibly watched by more people than news, they create these cultural stereotypes which are, in essence, abnormal.

01:47:58.000 And so that then puts the people who watch them with the simple mind control of television, where it shifts into the right brain thinking, you know.

01:48:06.000 no critical analysis, immediate emotional contact, where then they have to ape these abnormal stereotypes under peer

01:48:14.000 pressure.

01:48:15.000 So that's how the bizarre becomes normal. It's about creating a cultural stereotype which is aped by the general

01:48:21.000 population.

01:48:22.000 That's right. Dr. Baggage?

01:48:23.000 I agree with that.

01:48:25.000 And you know, the idea that Americans are the victims of a lot of different technologies, you know, something that largely is ignored.

01:48:33.000 But when you think about even the public pronouncement by our own government, about people that have been victimized, and these are the most obscene types of victimizations.

01:48:42.000 You know, when you look at Secretary of Energy O'Leary, when she was in the Clinton administration, admitting a half million Americans over 40 years, Objected to human experimentation and if that isn't torture, I don't know what is.

01:48:54.000 But this is a half a million that they admitted were dealt with in a way that we hung people at Nuremberg after World War II for the exact same kind of infractions.

01:49:03.000 And you know that in the United States, in this country, Where half a million of our own citizens have been victimized in this manner.

01:49:10.000 Not one single solitary soul has ever been held accountable in front of a jury.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, they come out, they come out and announce it now, and really that sets the precedent and normalizes it.

01:49:20.000 Exactly right.

01:49:21.000 I mean, you know, here's a good example of normalizing what used to be corrupt.

01:49:25.000 You know, we used to talk about, you know, what did a bribe get you politically?

01:49:28.000 It got you influence, outcomes, And at least an opportunity with an audience.

01:49:34.000 What is the difference between a bribe and a contribution in 2004?

01:49:38.000 There isn't any.

01:49:39.000 It gives you the same thing.

01:49:40.000 We give it a new name, we call it a campaign contribution, and it gives you the same thing as a bribe used to get, only now everybody feels really good about it.

01:49:48.000 It's a contribution, it's not a bribe.

01:49:49.000 Well, what the difference is, is what matters.

01:49:52.000 And there is no difference.

01:49:54.000 If you as an average citizen walk into your U.S.

01:49:56.000 Senator's office and ask for lunch, uh... and a lunch and discussion you're not going to get

01:50:00.000 one but you go in there and drop a ten thousand dollar check at the front desk and

01:50:04.000 ask for that lunch and i'll guarantee you'll get it

01:50:06.000 that's corruption that's what this country's

01:50:10.000 and then we give ourselves happy little words we feel good about it

01:50:13.000 uh... logan uh... and uh...

01:50:16.000 uh... others that are patiently holding Brenda and others, stay there.

01:50:19.000 We're going to get to you.

01:50:20.000 And I'm going to ask Dr. Begich.

01:50:22.000 He's a busy professor and everything else.

01:50:23.000 We'll see if we can keep a little bit of the next hour to get into HAARP and his book on that and also the chemtrails and the rest of it and keep Paul Watson with us.

01:50:31.000 A bunch of other news items.

01:50:32.000 I want to go to the calls a little bit quicker, but this has been a really riveting and revealing discussion here.

01:50:37.000 I hope you're listening and I hope you're thinking.

01:50:40.000 Because the entire of humanity, the human soul, is caught under a black boot right now.

01:50:45.000 And the people running things enjoy evil.

01:50:47.000 And you better get your mind around that and stop being naive, or it's over, folks.

01:50:51.000 We'll be right back, stay with us.

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01:54:22.000 Strong men learned how to con and manipulate and not just use muscle to get control of populations.

01:54:28.000 Witch doctors would say, follow me, do what I say or the sun won't come back tomorrow. 0.91

01:54:33.000 Of course he would give that threat according to his astrological understanding that there would be an eclipse the next day.

01:54:40.000 The general public had forgotten that pattern.

01:54:42.000 He had had it handed down to him.

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01:54:50.000 Well, the example of that today is the government carrying out 9-11. 0.95

01:54:54.000 The terrorists are going to strike, the serpent's going to eat the moon, the sun tomorrow, better do what we say.

01:54:58.000 You know, before 9-11 they said, submit to us, the terrorists coming, they're going to get you, bin Laden's going to get you, and then boom, it happened.

01:55:05.000 But again, I'm trying to use a historical kind of anthropological example here of all of this.

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01:56:37.000 Logan in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Bagich and of course Paul Watson.

01:56:41.000 Go ahead.

01:56:42.000 Yes, I was going to talk about illegal immigration and Paul Watson mentioned that I think a possible civil war in the future and I believe the globalists really do Plan ahead, and plan ahead really, really far ahead, like 50 years, even 100 years.

01:56:56.000 Yeah, I think the ultra-massive influx of all these different groups, and then the government trying to get them not to assimilate, things will be fine if they just assimilate.

01:57:07.000 That is used to just simply balkanize further, to cause more hysteria when it does... Go ahead, Paul.

01:57:16.000 It's about splitting, you know, splitting the community so people do not support each other when the hatchet does fall.

01:57:22.000 That's the agenda of illegal immigration, to balkanize the community. 0.99

01:57:27.000 Finish up what you were saying, Logan.

01:57:30.000 I think his cell phone was cutting out there.

01:57:32.000 Logan, you still there?

01:57:33.000 He's gone.

01:57:34.000 Dr. Baggage, any comments to that?

01:57:36.000 You know, I think, again, whenever you start fractionalizing populations, creating the villains that are really created by our own system, you really are deflecting people's attention to the real roots of the problems and to the symptoms of the problems.

01:57:52.000 And I think that's, again, a case of watering down what's going on in the United States right now Uh, with bad public policy that gets us fighting over issues that certainly are important, but while the bank is being robbed by both parties.

01:58:08.000 I think this immigration issue is one of those that, you know, for those that are in the border states, it's horrendous what's happening down there, what you guys are experiencing.

01:58:17.000 And yet very little is done to keep those borders secure.

01:58:20.000 And you talk about legal immigration.

01:58:23.000 What else is coming across that border is significant and something that we need to be concerned about.

01:58:28.000 But one again that's driving fear, panic, and the idea of a more directed and controlled society so these big problems don't happen.

01:58:37.000 Alright, third hour coming up.

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02:00:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:08.000 Time flies when you're in the real world.

02:00:10.000 Hour number three of this Tuesday, June 15, 2004 edition.

02:00:14.000 We're talking to Dr. Nick Begich and of course, Paul Joseph Watson.

02:00:20.000 And we're taking your calls at 800-259-9231.

02:00:24.000 Let's get through a bunch of these callers that have been holding and see which direction they take us in.

02:00:27.000 We'll get into HAARP, the chemtrails, more on mind control with Dr. Nick Beckett and Paul Watson.

02:00:33.000 And again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.

02:00:35.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Bernard in Texas.

02:00:37.000 Another call from Texas.

02:00:38.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:00:39.000 Yes, sir.

02:00:40.000 I'm having a serious problem.

02:00:42.000 No one will listen at all.

02:00:44.000 I want to suggest to you that Fox is using subliminal messaging because people that I know that would never agree My whole life are now saying the same things, and they watch Fox.

02:00:54.000 Well, sir, when I went to, you know, college here in Austin and just took radio, television, film, they admitted subliminals in the fifties, you know, on radio and TV. 0.95

02:01:04.000 Billboards have it, it's public, they've caught a lot of them doing it with really, really horrible stuff.

02:01:09.000 You know, Toyota commercials in Europe about Satanism and blood drinking, that was in the Times of London four years ago.

02:01:15.000 And there is a lot of, you know, that text rolling in the bottom, your mind sees that, but consciously you don't.

02:01:21.000 That's a form of brainwashing. 0.99

02:01:23.000 Dr. Baggish, you're really an expert on this, and this stuff is really public.

02:01:28.000 Can you talk about it?

02:01:29.000 Absolutely.

02:01:29.000 You know, what you're saying about the scrolling lines underneath, you do absorb all of that.

02:01:34.000 In fact, if you were subjected to hypnosis, you would actually recall every word in the proper order of every one of those words, because they do imprint.

02:01:43.000 The other thing that's important that people don't consider is the flicker rate of the light.

02:01:48.000 The actual light emanations from a television.

02:01:51.000 If the flicker rate is adjusted just so, you create a super-suggestivity on part of the viewers.

02:01:57.000 In other words, it's not even with subliminals. 0.94

02:01:59.000 There aren't necessarily words or anything.

02:02:01.000 Just the news broadcasts that are coming across.

02:02:04.000 And what they've learned is that external oscillating fields, including flickering light, when it's in a very precise, what's called a window frequency, It overrides brain activity, and the brain then locks onto this external signal, begins to mirror it, and makes for very different conditions within the brain.

02:02:24.000 Well, it puts you down into a dream state.

02:02:25.000 And one of my friends is a top guy at UT's psychology department, and I've been allowed into the unclassified areas.

02:02:32.000 DARPA this, DARPA that.

02:02:34.000 Most of it is with monkeys and flashing different rates in their face.

02:02:38.000 And this is going on all over the country, and they know exactly what to do.

02:02:42.000 Paul Watson?

02:02:43.000 Well, yeah, it goes back to the experiments of Herbert Krugman, I believe it was, where He found that when a person actually watches television, brain activity switches from the left to the right hemisphere of the brain.

02:02:58.000 Of course, the left hemisphere is the seat of logical thought, but when the television comes through, it impacts the right side of the brain, which is uncritical.

02:03:09.000 And again, how do you hypnotize somebody with a flashing light or a swinging bobble?

02:03:14.000 This is admitted, Dr. Begich.

02:03:16.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:03:17.000 In fact, you can use any number of methods.

02:03:20.000 There was, in terms of strobing lights or flashing lights, that goes back even the mid-60s with the device used, putting American servicemen in Vietnam into trance-like states.

02:03:31.000 It was called the LIDA machine, developed by the Soviets, and it was essentially a flickering light and some oscillating magnetic fields.

02:03:39.000 And when you look at That technology of the 60s laid across the technology framework of 2004, you have a much more powerful delivery system.

02:03:50.000 Most people involved in light and sound related research understand this and understand its implications.

02:03:57.000 Even in terms of enhancing human performance, the same technologies can be used for developing, for instance, solutions for attention deficit disordered kids, kids having trouble focusing attention.

02:04:09.000 But it's not the appropriate uses that are usually discussed, it's the misuses of these technologies.

02:04:15.000 How to degrade the human brain, how to destroy the human brain.

02:04:18.000 Well, anyway, I want to make one more point.

02:04:21.000 I had a friend that I met said that he had a friend that was put in prison for 25 years for illegal attempt of re-entry in this country, and he's white. 0.81

02:04:29.000 That's a true story, and I told the guy to write you a letter, maybe you could help him. 0.57

02:04:34.000 But that's the ridiculousness of all this.

02:04:36.000 Well, it's all selectively enforced. 0.53

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02:08:10.000 My friends, I occasionally go to movies, watch DVDs or VHS tapes.

02:08:18.000 I will listen to C-SPAN.

02:08:19.000 I really won't watch it.

02:08:20.000 I will not watch Fox and CNN and the rest of them.

02:08:23.000 Because when you're conscious of the brainwashing, it does nothing but make you angry.

02:08:28.000 And my life has gotten so much better, my mind works so much better, not watching television.

02:08:33.000 I suggest you put it on a cart, put it in the closet, occasionally let your children watch, you know, videos, uh, you know, children's videos, uh, as, as a treat or something, but, I mean, not let them sit there for four and a half hours a day, that's the national average.

02:08:48.000 You watch the cartoons, the U.N.

02:08:50.000 Savings, World Government, secret police in black ski masks everywhere, I mean, the, you know, your secret police, your spies, This is all coming down the pike. 0.99

02:09:00.000 Massive brainwashing going on.

02:09:03.000 So stop watching television.

02:09:04.000 We'll talk to Dr. Nick Baggage and Paul Watson here in a moment and get to Ben and Chris and Michael and John and many others that are holding them in.

02:09:11.000 We've got 50-something minutes left.

02:09:13.000 We're going to get into HAARP and the chemtrails and the rest of it.

02:09:15.000 Dr. Baggage is a real expert on this subject and Paul Watson has done a lot of research as well.

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02:10:01.000 It's so important, this thing should live in chlorine by the way, to start filtering your water properly.

02:10:07.000 And Debbie, good to have you on with us. 0.98

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02:10:11.000 You bet.

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02:10:53.000 Right.

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02:12:46.000 Anything else, Debbie?

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02:12:51.000 Alright, and Debbie, we really appreciate you.

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02:13:00.000 Take control of your life.

02:13:01.000 70% of your body is made up of it.

02:13:03.000 I don't want to get Dr. Nick Baggage to sit here and plug things for me.

02:13:07.000 He doesn't even know I was going to do this, but Dr. Nick Baggage, you study the environment with your doctorate.

02:13:13.000 Would you drink unfiltered water?

02:13:15.000 I'm just curious.

02:13:16.000 You know, that's a huge issue, and the answer is no.

02:13:20.000 In fact, filtering your water, pulling out the toxins that are there.

02:13:24.000 I mean, in Alaska, we're fortunate to be blessed with really excellent and abundant water supplies, but that is not the case for most of the country.

02:13:33.000 Whatever you do to get the heavy metals out of the water and other materials out of the water, I think is beneficial.

02:13:39.000 Both the chlorine and the fluoride can be filtered out pretty readily and something to pay attention to.

02:13:46.000 So, shameless plug. 0.79

02:13:46.000 Absolutely. 0.79

02:13:48.000 I'm getting Dr. Begich to engage in.

02:13:50.000 Let's go back to the calls.

02:13:51.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ben in Texas.

02:13:55.000 Ben, you're on the air.

02:13:56.000 Go ahead.

02:13:57.000 Hey, great show today, y'all.

02:13:59.000 Doctor, y'all were all talking about mind control earlier and getting real deep into it.

02:14:04.000 Of course, I'm not as red on it as your guest and yourself.

02:14:10.000 And you were talking about not watching TV.

02:14:12.000 There's a new movie out called The Manchurian Candidate, and anybody that's familiar with that term... They did a re-do of that?

02:14:21.000 I didn't know it was a re-do, actually.

02:14:24.000 I believe it's about putting a Manchurian candidate president into the White House.

02:14:31.000 Yeah, that was a 50's or 60's movie with Frank Sinatra, so I don't... There's a new one out that's just part of the whole TV thing.

02:14:44.000 That's another thing they do.

02:14:45.000 Just like in 1984, Big Brother admits through their puppet, Goldstein, the things that Big Brother's doing, psychologically in a way, getting us to accept it.

02:14:55.000 Dr. Begich, can you comment on that?

02:14:57.000 This happens very, very frequently where film and fiction is used as a method for sort of really conditioning the public to accept things it normally wouldn't be.

02:14:57.000 Absolutely.

02:15:07.000 If you follow Major trends, cultural trends, you'll see them show up in the mainstream media, usually through popular television first, and then, you know, basically erode basic values and have them replaced with new values and new ideas.

02:15:22.000 And media plays a big part of that.

02:15:24.000 And today, when you combine not just the standard methods of propaganda, which is just indoctrination through overloads of information, now you have a technology That conditions the brain to more readily accept this.

02:15:37.000 You know, when we talked about mind control and earth rising the revolution, over a hundred source documents are cited.

02:15:44.000 Almost three dozen U.S.

02:15:46.000 patents are noted showing the evolution of this technology.

02:15:50.000 This is not something that has just all of a sudden popped out of the marketplace.

02:15:55.000 This is something that has been actively pursued for now almost 50 years.

02:16:01.000 Resulting in a tremendous advance in this type of technology.

02:16:05.000 Well, Paul, a month ago they came out and admitted that the Republicans and Democrats are having people come in to be brain scammed while they watch their political ads.

02:16:12.000 I mean, it's gotten down to that point.

02:16:14.000 Yep.

02:16:14.000 Well, another example of how they use TV brainwashing to achieve a political outcome.

02:16:20.000 Again, normalizing the immoral.

02:16:23.000 is again by this right brain hemisphere emotional unthinking filtered process and the example is euthanasia which is basically the modern branch of Hitler's eugenics program where they take one case of you know a woman who has an illness who is in severe pain she wants to die and then they feed that through the television people have an emotional response to it and then say you know legalize euthanasia these people are in pain they deserve the right to take their own lives so they use one case By that emotional manipulation to justify the overall government agenda of reintroducing this eugenics program.

02:17:01.000 And then Wesley Smith of the Wall Street Journal lists hundreds of names and multiple articles of people begging for food and water being killed by the government and the average person has no idea this is even going on.

02:17:10.000 You know, this is again an example of how Ideas work their way into culture and become acceptable.

02:17:20.000 You know, the idea of euthanasia as a concept even being openly discussed by people back 20 years ago, there was the legitimate feelings of aversion to that kind of thing.

02:17:34.000 You know, death is not something that human beings are meant to Spend their lives asphyxiating on it.

02:17:41.000 Life that we're supposed to be engaged in.

02:17:43.000 And here we are again trying to rationalize suicide, which again in most traditions is something severely, strongly spoken against.

02:17:52.000 And I think here again we're talking about these basic moral questions.

02:17:57.000 And they admit that these drugs are giving the children increased suicide.

02:18:01.000 Let's take another call.

02:18:02.000 Chris in Illinois.

02:18:03.000 Chris, you're on the air.

02:18:04.000 Go ahead.

02:18:06.000 Hello?

02:18:06.000 Yes.

02:18:07.000 Okay.

02:18:07.000 As I start all my conversations with you, Alex, we have to repent as a nation.

02:18:11.000 Number two, we got the Berkey system.

02:18:14.000 It's great.

02:18:15.000 Well, thank you.

02:18:16.000 Okay, the reason for my call is I went to college many years ago in the 50s.

02:18:20.000 There was a book called Hidden Persuaders by Vance Packard.

02:18:23.000 You ever hear of that one?

02:18:25.000 That's what opened my eyes to a lot of the things that it actually told about all of the, you know, the things you're talking about.

02:18:32.000 How they get people to buy, etc., etc.

02:18:35.000 Um, and it's amazing how they insidiously... Are you still there?

02:18:40.000 Yes.

02:18:40.000 Oh, okay.

02:18:41.000 How insidiously they do things.

02:18:43.000 It's just like going to the store like Juul, and they've got a lot of cookies that's called decadent.

02:18:50.000 I wrote to them.

02:18:51.000 I said, I object to something like this.

02:18:53.000 It's not right.

02:18:54.000 They wrote me back a letter.

02:18:54.000 Oh, well, you know, the meaning... I said, no, that's not the meaning of the dictionary.

02:18:59.000 It means something evil.

02:19:01.000 But at any rate, they keep insidiously indoctrinating... Well, here's an example.

02:19:06.000 Dr. Bagich and Paul, I mean, every day I see an article where they're recasting Big Brother as a helper.

02:19:11.000 Big Brother helping.

02:19:12.000 Big Brother helping children.

02:19:14.000 Big Brother's watching, and it's good.

02:19:15.000 Have you seen that?

02:19:16.000 Yeah, it's the same mindset that is conditioning, and it's preconditioning to get people willing and ready to accept Jack Brownring for Midas Resources.

02:19:25.000 Last summer, we did some two-year comparisons between the equity markets and gold.

02:19:27.000 most readily with most folks.

02:19:29.000 Anything else?

02:19:30.000 Yes, I have one other thing.

02:19:31.000 Stay there.

02:19:32.000 Chris, we'll come back and talk to Michael and John and others.

02:19:36.000 And then I'm not going to take any more calls after the half hour plunk because I want to

02:19:38.000 get into chemtrails and HAARP.

02:19:40.000 He might take a few, but just stay with us.

02:19:46.000 Jack Brownring for Midas Resources.

02:19:49.000 Last summer we did some two-year comparisons between the equity markets and gold.

02:19:53.000 Let's update.

02:19:54.000 January of 2002 to January of 2004, the Dow was up a whopping 2.3%.

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02:20:09.000 Guess which one has gold backing?

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02:23:55.000 Talking to Paul Joseph Watson, Nick Baggage, Paul, I know you've been chomping on the bit to get in here.

02:24:01.000 Any comments or insights on the things we've been talking about before we go back to these calls?

02:24:05.000 Yeah, just one more thing with the television propaganda.

02:24:08.000 There was also an experiment in Germany several years ago where they took three families and each were offered Thousands of dollars if they successfully avoided watching television for a period of a month and this was all monitored and none of them were successful and that's because the bottom line is that television is addictive again because of this right brain hemisphere activity which produces the endorphins which make it addictive so that's why... But I can't stand watching it now!

02:24:38.000 Dr. Buggage, I mean how do people get away from this?

02:24:40.000 Well, you know, again, it's the case of conditioning.

02:24:44.000 You've got to recognize what's behind a lot of this.

02:24:47.000 The idea that brain activity is stimulated in a way that makes it addictive, I think is, again, one of those reasons where people really have to look at what they're viewing, consider how they're taking information in, and make sure they're doing it in a way that gets them information rather than manipulation.

02:25:07.000 And I think this is, again, where Technology has moved so fast, so rapidly, that the ability to keep up, to be able to screen this stuff out, I mean, it would be very easy to screen out this kind of manipulation by justifying what is known by military planners and others.

02:25:25.000 And that's not being done, nor should anyone expect it, because the outcome is to manipulate the public, not to give us the freedoms that individuals are entitled to.

02:25:34.000 And I think that's really what it's about.

02:25:36.000 It's more about control Um, on this backdrop of fear and the ideas is that it's easier to control people that are afraid than it's able to control people that are self-assured, strong individuals, the kind of individuals that all of us

02:25:51.000 We're intended to be with him.

02:25:52.000 Well, I mean, who would want to spend four and a half hours a day for a child watching TV and the average adult over three hours?

02:25:57.000 I mean, give me a break!

02:25:58.000 Yeah, I... Real quick, Chris, and then we're going to finish up.

02:26:01.000 My mindset is that you don't suspect everything.

02:26:04.000 Anyway, going back to this Juul thing, I have a book, but Juul is owned by Albertsons, and Albertsons is connected to the Illuminati families.

02:26:15.000 Many of their board members and so on.

02:26:17.000 See, it all fits in.

02:26:18.000 It's like a spiderweb at the center of everything.

02:26:20.000 They've got to control from A to Z. You've got to be on your toes.

02:26:25.000 And like you were saying about making it a mindset, now Nancy Reagan is, you know, all the stuff that they did, she's kissing the coffin, and now she's calling for stem cell research. 0.99

02:26:36.000 Just like you said.

02:26:37.000 Yeah, or you're not conservative.

02:26:39.000 Thanks for the call.

02:26:41.000 Michael in Hawaii, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:26:43.000 Yes, I've got a question for Nick Begich, Dr. Begich.

02:26:47.000 Always good to hear you on talk shows.

02:26:50.000 I'm just curious, doesn't it seem like everything is accelerating, you know, in this new world order, this condition?

02:26:56.000 It just seems like it's accelerating, and do you feel that 2004 is going to be a very pivotal year?

02:27:01.000 You know, I think it is accelerating, mainly because the technology's advanced now to where it can, and secondly, its fear runs two directions.

02:27:09.000 You know, those that have power want to keep it, and I think that's a lot of it, is it tends to push people forward, and there is a backlash brewing, I think.

02:27:18.000 Yeah, they're actually running scared.

02:27:19.000 Yeah, and that backlash, you know, it's what often happens.

02:27:24.000 Once Americans wake up, we are an unstoppable force.

02:27:27.000 I don't care what history has shown us, that's one message that we all understand.

02:27:32.000 The people at the top understand it also, and ultimately that's the challenge for all of us, is to not succumb to fear, but wake each other up with good information, apply that information in a meaningful way, and don't let these guys get away with it.

02:27:45.000 You know, the first step in change is getting people informed, and I think that's where This show, and shows like it, have given an opportunity in a forum to get alternative ideas and issues out there to make people think again.

02:27:56.000 And that's the challenge for 2004.

02:27:59.000 And, you know, will it get worse?

02:28:01.000 This is a pivotal year.

02:28:02.000 Every year is an important year, because every year that we take the right actions, it's actions in the right direction to counteract what... Yeah, there's no doubt that their program is behind schedule.

02:28:11.000 Paul Watson?

02:28:12.000 Well, yeah, I think it'd be on schedule by at least, you know, four or five years.

02:28:16.000 And one of the reasons for that is that Basically, they fail to take into account their own human inadequacies, because there's definite infighting within the elite on how exactly to carry out the agenda, whether on one side it be the piecemeal slow progression towards it, or on the other side, the basic bombardment and terror of the human mind, which will accelerate the program via the subjugation of people under fear.

02:28:41.000 So there is infighting as to which methods to take, in my view.

02:28:45.000 Yeah, there's the ivory tower arrogance of the elite.

02:28:48.000 Anything else, Mike?

02:28:49.000 I'm just curious, with all the information that Dr. Begich has been privy to, can he tell us, share with us anything that he feels like is going to have a foreseeable future here in 2004 that could possibly happen?

02:29:05.000 Well, I think we were talking last hour about another major terrorist event.

02:29:10.000 I think that's in the cards for this year.

02:29:12.000 It's an election year.

02:29:14.000 Unfortunately, I think that's going to be used, again, to instill fear and try and maintain an existing administration that is taking our resources and handing them off in the biggest transfer of American wealth since the railroad there.

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02:32:44.000 We're not your slaves, you wicked control freaks.

02:33:09.000 We're not your property, and you'd better be afraid, because you're going down.

02:33:12.000 There'll always be new evils to fight, my friend, but we're in the middle of a very, very decadent cycle right now.

02:33:19.000 Just one more call, because I've got a bunch of other news I want to go over with our two guests.

02:33:23.000 And this is fitting to be one of the last calls we'll go to, or the last.

02:33:26.000 Bill in Alaska, you're on the air.

02:33:27.000 Go ahead.

02:33:29.000 Alex, I'm a neighbor of Mr. or Dr. Baggage.

02:33:35.000 And I've been listening and it comes to me that there can be no righteous indignation without righteousness.

02:33:44.000 Nor is righteousness, you can't claim it if you have no righteous indignation.

02:33:54.000 There's a handful of people, relatively small percentage of people that are led by their lusts and controlling and jerking us around.

02:34:04.000 And the shame of this nation is that there is no righteous indignation because there is no righteousness.

02:34:14.000 I think that's what Paul Watson keeps going over, is that they scientifically taught us how to not care about our neighbors.

02:34:21.000 Because if you don't care about your neighbor, folks, you don't care about yourself.

02:34:24.000 People who only care about themselves think, oh, I'm looking out for me.

02:34:27.000 But when everybody has that attitude, it creates a horrible, predatory atmosphere to live in.

02:34:34.000 Loving your neighbor, reaping what you sow, gives you a great environment to live in.

02:34:39.000 And how they've sold us this fraud of do as thou wilt, only care about yourself. 0.98

02:34:45.000 I mean, people are, you know, these yuppies are so foolish to believe in that. 0.98

02:34:48.000 Paul Watson, Dr. Baggage? 0.93

02:34:51.000 You know, absolutely right, and I think that's again, you know, the idea of morals and values being fundamental, I don't care where your politics are in the country, those fundamental things have to be in place in order for the kind of government That our founding fathers envisioned can be realized.

02:35:10.000 And we spent 200 years unraveling that vision, and it's time for Americans to recognize where that vision was centered and get it back.

02:35:19.000 And that's on a platform of respect and responsibility and accountability, starting with us individually, and then certainly reflected in our governments, which is far and wide from where we are.

02:35:29.000 May I give you one more thing before I hang up?

02:35:34.000 uh...

02:35:39.000 i've that simplification of my life is as uh... centered on on pleasing god

02:35:45.000 and automatically anybody worth pleasing is pleased and the rest of them are cannon fodder

02:35:55.000 alright appreciate the call paul watson comments when he was saying

02:35:59.000 Yeah, he's basically pointing out that there was a scientific move to forcefully eradicate the innate human righteousness and then replace it with a modified program which is basically idol worship and the subjugation to peer pressure via the creation of cultural stereotypes which are completely anti-faith.

02:36:21.000 Well, I mean, it's common sense stuff in the Ten Commandments.

02:36:25.000 Don't murder.

02:36:26.000 Don't do this.

02:36:27.000 Don't do that.

02:36:27.000 But don't worship idols.

02:36:28.000 for the vital to eliminate common sense dot the ten commandments don't murder

02:36:32.000 don't do this or do that but don't worship idols that doesn't just mean

02:36:36.000 don't you know don't have a little gold thing in your house the point is is that

02:36:40.000 that idols what you care about That symbol can then be manipulated by controllers.

02:36:46.000 Love your family, love your neighbor.

02:36:48.000 Don't love Arnold Schwarzenegger because they tell you he's so cool.

02:36:52.000 Don't let them program you like that.

02:36:55.000 We are an idolatrous nation.

02:36:55.000 It really is.

02:36:59.000 We worship the Double D fake breast. 0.87

02:37:03.000 We worship the Mercedes.

02:37:05.000 We worship all this stuff that means nothing, and the globalists just dangle it in front of our faces, and we'll sell out our grandmother for power!

02:37:13.000 Uh, and people are amazed, you know, that years ago I got offered millions of dollars to go work for, you know, one of the big establishment radio networks and said, no, you know, they were stunned.

02:37:20.000 Nobody turns down millions of dollars.

02:37:22.000 It wasn't even hard for me!

02:37:24.000 What I believe in, standing up for what's good, that's what counts for me.

02:37:29.000 I can't stand tyranny.

02:37:31.000 I'm afraid of these people. 0.99

02:37:32.000 I know they're wicked.

02:37:33.000 Comments?

02:37:34.000 You know, this is again, the decisions that we each make are going to decide what happens in the next, you know, the caller before, you know, so what's important for 204?

02:37:43.000 What's important is that we wake up to what is happening and we begin to act responsibly to try and turn the tide.

02:37:50.000 And that's the challenge, I think, for everyone that listens to these broadcasts, that listens to what is being said and looks for that alternative.

02:37:57.000 Spread the word.

02:37:58.000 That's the first step in making change.

02:38:00.000 It doesn't take a huge percentage.

02:38:02.000 People complain.

02:38:03.000 It's apathy that gets in the way.

02:38:04.000 Apathy is easier to deal with if you think about 20% of the people making decisions voting That means you've got to convince 10% that you're right.

02:38:13.000 Well, Doctor, people look at others' apathy and say, well, then I'm going to be apathetic because they don't care.

02:38:19.000 Well, what they think doesn't matter.

02:38:20.000 If a hundred of your neighbors are standing there while the house is burning and people are stuck inside and you've got a chance to save them, if you sit there and let them die, you're going to have just as many nightmares as your other hundred neighbors. 1.00

02:38:31.000 Forget what the stupid neighbors did! 1.00

02:38:33.000 That's right, and I think that's again where you act on what you know to be right and true and act in a responsible way and recognize that you're not alone in that. 1.00

02:38:40.000 There's millions of other people that think the same way.

02:38:43.000 The globalists are masters in making us feel like we're alone, we're by ourselves, and I'm in the position, Paul's in the position, Nick's in the position, Dr. Baggage is, to where we talk to the crowds, we see the people, we walk down the street, we're known around the country.

02:38:58.000 And listen, I go into a grocery store sometimes, and half the people stop me and agree with me.

02:39:04.000 You know, I went to the pool yesterday, and half the people that were there came up and talked to me.

02:39:07.000 And they're agreeing!

02:39:08.000 I mean, I've done 1,600 plus radio interviews in the last two and a half plus years, and almost no one calls in on liberal and conservative shows to disagree with me while I'm saying the government carried out 9-11!

02:39:21.000 I'm telling you, their poll numbers, what they say is an illusion!

02:39:25.000 Gentlemen, comments!

02:39:26.000 Yeah, absolutely true.

02:39:27.000 You know, this whole idea of manipulation of media and to get us to kind of believe what the masses are supposed to believe is a big part of it.

02:39:37.000 I mean, look around at just the way media flows into us and you really got to look, again, at the underlying problems.

02:39:45.000 If we spent $200 billion on solving The energy question for the United States, would we have a solution?

02:39:52.000 I would bet that there's not a single listener that would suggest that we wouldn't.

02:39:55.000 Well, they already have engines that get 80 miles to the gallon, but again, they won't let us have them.

02:40:02.000 I mean, they're already solutions that cut the problem in half.

02:40:05.000 Exactly.

02:40:06.000 And the complex that we've been in, the complex we're in now, are based on really resources and energy.

02:40:13.000 And again, This is where our resources as tax-paying human beings are being undermined by those resources not solving the real problems, but merely being thrown at ways to send that money for the military-industrial-academic complex as opposed to

02:40:31.000 Solving the real problems that improve life for the average human being.

02:40:34.000 Well, it's simple.

02:40:35.000 The globalists own all the oils.

02:40:36.000 They're going to keep us on that.

02:40:38.000 And they love it when the stuff starts getting low here in a few decades.

02:40:42.000 They'll tell us there's no oil so they can jack up the price astronomically and we'll just thank them and love it.

02:40:47.000 Paul Watson, what's your take on what we've been saying?

02:40:50.000 Yeah, just to round off on the moral principle.

02:40:53.000 I mean, Jesus said collect treasures on heaven, not on earth.

02:40:56.000 And, you know, you'll be rewarded.

02:40:59.000 But on another level, the sheep mentality which they've created is not just that, it's to the point where the sheep have to police the other sheep. 0.80

02:41:06.000 To the point where I, as a 22 year old man, am expected to be out every night trying to sleep with women.

02:41:14.000 It's because these people, this is their cultural norm, this is what they're expected to do by peer pressure.

02:41:20.000 So we have to get past that and realise that the moral course is the true course and that it will infinitely lead to many more rewards.

02:41:29.000 All right, I want to get into HAARP and chemtrails and the rest of it.

02:41:33.000 I mean, clearly, all the experts I talked to agree that they are spraying stuff in the atmosphere.

02:41:38.000 They are changing the atmosphere.

02:41:40.000 They are spraying different chemicals and biologicals.

02:41:42.000 I mean, there's been thousands of tests admitted.

02:41:46.000 The atmosphere, Goddard Space Center admits the Earth is 20% darker.

02:41:50.000 Satellite photos show almost the whole world blacked out by these little trails.

02:41:54.000 These weren't here six, seven years ago.

02:41:56.000 Dr. Baggage, what's going on with the chemtrails?

02:41:58.000 You know, that goes back to actually a story that broke in the early 80s, but it was theoretical then when they were making observations of air traffic increases above Dallas-Fort Worth Airport.

02:42:10.000 And what they had noticed is that the contrails coming off of these planes We're actually adding to the formation of cumulus clouds, increasing the severity of storms in the southeastern United States.

02:42:23.000 When they proved that this theory was more than a theory was when 9-11 occurred and all air traffic stopped in the United States and they could then quantify what their theoretical... Remember how clear and blue the sky's got?

02:42:35.000 Oh yeah, because what is true is that just the normal traffic is laying down this darkening of the planet in a way that traps Heat that causes other heat exchanges to occur.

02:42:48.000 When you look at that issue and then you lay on top of it now experimentally... Well, they admit it!

02:42:53.000 That causes more global warming than the cars! 0.99

02:42:56.000 Absolutely.

02:42:56.000 In fact, if you take it a step further and you look at satellite launches over the last 50 years in terms of when that technology began, you know it does more for creating ozone depletion than all the aerosol cans ever discharged on the planet.

02:43:12.000 And all the Freon that ever existed in a refrigerator, they were God's only knowledge of how it can rise when it's heavier than air.

02:43:19.000 But the fact of the matter is, these things have been around for a long time.

02:43:24.000 They're contributing, but are they the only problem?

02:43:27.000 No.

02:43:27.000 The fact of the matter is, we are seeing significant changes both in terms of cooling and heating in various parts of the planet.

02:43:36.000 Is that part of the same agenda?

02:43:37.000 Is that part of an agenda of Of change and destruction?

02:43:41.000 Well, we have the Pentagon document about owning the weather in 2025.

02:43:45.000 Absolutely, and then you look at some of the other ideas that the last three Secretaries of Defense have all spoken about, taking and abandoning a treaty that was signed in the mid-70s on environmental modification.

02:43:58.000 All three last Secretaries of Defense want that treaty out because now the technology is so good, is so well designed, That controlling the battle environment becomes very tempting without much consideration to the downstream effects, which are huge.

02:44:14.000 Now, how does HAARP play into that?

02:44:16.000 Well, HAARP, you know, as a system, was designed to do a lot of different things.

02:44:19.000 One of the, what the military calls a side effect, and many others consider a deliberate effect.

02:44:24.000 I'll tell you what, first off, tell people what HAARP is.

02:44:26.000 Sure, it's the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, and it's a large radio transmitter, actually a field of transmitters Right now the project is controlled by DARPA, previously by the Air Force and Navy.

02:44:39.000 And they just upped the power, didn't they?

02:44:42.000 Yep, this year they're doubling the power, next year they're doubling that again, quadrupling the power.

02:44:46.000 They're about four years behind where they plan to be in terms of doing that.

02:44:51.000 Now what they can do with this, in just one mode of operation, they can literally heat an area above the Earth's surface that starts about 30 miles up.

02:45:00.000 They can heat this area called the ionosphere and shove A column of space going out into space.

02:45:08.000 Picture it as a tube on a roll of paper towels moving out into space.

02:45:13.000 There's no telling what this could do!

02:45:15.000 Absolutely, but when you look at what they admit to, that changes local pressure systems, weather systems underneath can divert jet streams, causing tremendous changes in weather.

02:45:26.000 In fact, down in your part of the world, there was this jet stream change that moved Weather out of East Texas and Louisiana a number of years ago, all the way into Central Florida where a couple of tornadoes got deposited where they weren't supposed to be.

02:45:41.000 And this was from a very slight change in the jet stream flow, coincidentally right above the HAARP facility.

02:45:48.000 These are the equivalent of giant Amazon rivers that they can direct as weapons.

02:45:52.000 Absolutely.

02:45:53.000 And when you look at directing the natural flows on the planet and being able to turn Energy that is tremendous.

02:46:00.000 I mean, the Earth itself produces tremendous energy potentials, but being able to turn those into a destructive force, that is what much of this new technology is about.

02:46:10.000 Well, Dr. Begich and Paul, let me ask both of you this.

02:46:12.000 You know, the globals will put cancer viruses and vaccines 250 times safe levels of mercury in some of the new vaccines.

02:46:19.000 You know, admittedly, we have that on the website right now.

02:46:22.000 Last week I was saying 215, it's 250, excuse me.

02:46:25.000 You know, letting the troops die to please uranium. 0.89

02:46:27.000 I mean, they practice this evil, they don't care, they manipulate the weather, they genetically engineer and splice all this stuff.

02:46:33.000 It's like they're trying to create disasters.

02:46:36.000 Comments from, Paul, comments.

02:46:38.000 Well, and one thing that we reported late last year, there was an earthquake in the Iranian city of Bam, just after Christmas last year.

02:46:47.000 And HAARP was registered up to frequency to record levels right before that earthquake, and we've seen examples of that before.

02:46:54.000 But time and again, with both Chemtrails and HAARP, I run into this kind of disinformational stance, which is this naive view that it's a benign program to combat climate change, when in fact one of the big patents for HAARP, which was held by Arco Power Technologies, whose subsidiary actually was contracted to build HAARP, I mean, in their patent, they describe it as an invention that would heat plumes of charged particles in the ionosphere.

02:47:23.000 Dr. Begich, comments on that?

02:47:25.000 Absolutely correct.

02:47:26.000 In fact, the latest development is that particular subsidiary of ARCO was bought out by a chain of companies.

02:47:32.000 It was bought out by eSystems and then Raytheon, and now British Aerospace actually controls the intellectual property.

02:47:39.000 But talking about triggering Earthquakes and volcanic eruptions or weather changes.

02:47:44.000 There's a quote by Secretary of Defense William Cohen and it says, others are engaging even in an ecotype of terrorism whereby they can alter climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

02:47:56.000 Unquote.

02:47:57.000 He made that statement at a conference on weapons of mass destruction, international terrorism back in 1997, many years before 9-11.

02:48:07.000 And what he suggested then was as a weapon of mass destruction that terrorist states could use electromagnetic energy in this way.

02:48:14.000 Well, we know that our government and other governments around the world also can use this type of energy in this way, and yet it's undetectable by virtually anyone else.

02:48:24.000 And this is all admitted, but then you tell the average person this, they laugh at you because, you know, we're in 2004, it's not 1950, people.

02:48:29.000 We're in the future.

02:48:30.000 We're here.

02:48:33.000 Yeah, and this is, you know, this is right out of a DOD defense briefing from April 28, 1997.

02:48:39.000 It's something that's cited in the book, Earth Rising, The Revolution.

02:48:42.000 What did you think of the movie, Core?

02:48:44.000 Did you see that?

02:48:45.000 Yeah, you know, that's interesting.

02:48:47.000 Yeah, up in Alaska, they've got this machine and they can control the poles.

02:48:50.000 Go ahead.

02:48:51.000 Yeah, and this is the same kind of concept.

02:48:53.000 You know, in fiction, writers, you know, they pick up on these concepts.

02:48:57.000 The idea was that... That writer had obviously read your book.

02:49:01.000 Sure, and you know, we see that a lot, and we've even worked with some folks on trying to develop that kind of information to get it out there.

02:49:08.000 But you know, when you see manipulation of the magnetic lines of force surrounding the planet, this is actually something that is done with the HAARP instrument, something that shows up in the military record, basically to try and use, again, natural systems as part of weapon systems on the ground, changing their character dramatically, and the effect on the whole planet, Without clear knowledge of what those effects might be.

02:49:32.000 And these guys are doing this with genetic engineering, and every week some lab releases something.

02:49:37.000 It's only a matter of time before they release some weaponized bug.

02:49:41.000 Well, and you know, even by accident.

02:49:43.000 Think about the genetic experiments by accident.

02:49:46.000 Even if you look at killer bees as a very basic example.

02:49:49.000 You know, that was a genetic experiment in Brazil years ago that went sideways, and it was just straight up breeding of species.

02:49:57.000 Now you take a look at creating new forms of life deliberately and then without knowing again the interactions, huge problems occur.

02:50:04.000 Well, it's like Texas company Protegene, 96 locations, pharmacological corn with live AIDS virus in it, and that's in the AP one time.

02:50:12.000 That should be a top story!

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02:56:24.000 Alright, Paul Watson, you've got about a minute and a half, and then so do you, Dr. Baggett.

02:56:28.000 Final comments?

02:56:29.000 Well, I mean, we have to realize that we have a number of these people, you know, thousands to one.

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02:56:43.000 You know, the only people that have ever changed history are these small groups of focused individuals.

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02:57:03.000 Dr. Maggots?

02:57:04.000 Yeah, you know, I think it's really the challenges for all of us to recognize our own power as individuals to make change.

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02:57:26.000 Exercise your right as a created human being to help create a better place, and that's by stepping up to the challenge and acting on what we know.

02:57:34.000 And I think that's really been in the background of all of our work, the challenge that we all face together, and what these programs allow us to help stimulate is faith and confidence in the future rather than fear.

02:57:46.000 Well, there's no doubt that evil always implodes by its own nature.

02:57:50.000 The problem is it takes whole civilizations and millions of people.

02:57:53.000 With it, we're trying to avert that.

02:57:55.000 We're entering the critical phase of a decadent cycle.

02:57:58.000 And the elite is attempting to bring in a tyranny that can never be removed or defeated, learning from the past, kind of the Orwell view that O'Brien espouses in the final pages of that work, that dystopic work.

02:58:10.000 I want to thank Dr. Nick Magich for joining us, Paul Joseph Watson for joining us.

02:58:14.000 God bless you both, look forward to having you both back up in the near future, and have a great day.

02:58:19.000 You guys, take care.

02:58:20.000 Alright, take care my friends.

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