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00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:23.000 And good morning to all of you out there, and of course I'm not Alex Jones, I'm Michael Corbin.

00:00:27.000 I'm sitting in for Alex, who is covering the Republican National Convention in New York.

00:00:32.000 He's going to join us a little bit later on in the program today to let us know what's going on.

00:00:37.000 Now I understand that he has talked to Durgin, I'm sorry, and also he's had a conversation with Michael Moore.

00:00:45.000 So, when Alex joins me today, about an hour and a half from now, we're going to get the lowdown on what happened out there, what's happening out there, and just kind of find out what's taking place.

00:00:55.000 And as everybody knows, this promises to be a very, very interesting, I guess you could say, convention.

00:01:05.000 I think it's going to be very interesting, of course, because we saw the thing that happened at the Democratic National Convention a couple of weeks ago, but You know, they're predicting that the Republican National Convention is going to really draw the protesters.

00:01:21.000 And there's going to be a lot of activity out there, and we're going to be covering it for you.

00:01:25.000 Alex is going to be covering it for you.

00:01:27.000 And for the three days that I'm here, Alex is going to call in each day with a report and spend a little time bringing us up to speed on things that are going on out there.

00:01:36.000 And remember, You're not going to hear the whole deal except right here on the Alex Jones Show because Alex is out there you're going to get The perspective as it is happening and truthfully I might add because the mainstream media cannot be trusted to tell you everything that's going on.

00:01:56.000 It's interesting I've seen I've heard and seen a couple of conflicting things already dealing with the Republican National Convention.

00:02:04.000 It was interesting I heard on the conservative media this morning that there was very little in the way of protesters showing up out there but When I picked up the New York Times today, the liberal newspaper, they made it sound like they had a big, huge group of people protesting and marching down the street, etc, etc.

00:02:22.000 So there you go.

00:02:24.000 It kind of illustrates that the mainstream media is giving conflicting reports and they're not giving the whole story.

00:02:31.000 So we're going to hear from Alex again coming up.

00:02:33.000 Also, I'm going to be joined today by Paul David Watson.

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00:02:49.000 Paul is going to spend an hour with us today talking about some of the things that he's covering.

00:02:54.000 Coming up the third hour, William Kennedy is going to be joining me talking about his book Lucifer's Lodge.

00:02:59.000 Now, I saw in the newspaper over the weekend that Cardinal Mahoney in California has agreed to a 1.5 billion dollar settlement.

00:03:14.000 This is by far, I believe, the largest payout that has ever occurred.

00:03:19.000 We're going to get with William Kennedy and talk about what is going on with this whole thing.

00:03:24.000 Why are we seeing so many problems I am the host of A Closer Look which airs on the Genesis Communications Network Monday through Friday 5 to 8 p.m.

00:03:32.000 Mountain 7 to 10 Eastern.

00:03:33.000 One other thing too, as a lot of you may know, I am the host of A Closer Look, which airs on the Genesis Communications Network Monday through Friday, 5 to 8 p.m. Mountain, 7 to 10 Eastern.

00:03:44.000 And we're going to cover a little bit of this during the first half of the program today.

00:03:49.000 But I'm kind of really ticked off about this totalization program, this Social Security program.

00:03:56.000 They're trying to ramrod this through the legislature. 0.91

00:04:00.000 There is a bill that's holding it off, and I believe it's got about 60 more days.

00:04:06.000 If our congressmen do not vote to repeal it, we are going to be stuck.

00:04:12.000 financing and subsidizing illegal immigrants to come into this country solely to come in and undermine our country and to go back to their country and draw welfare essentially and be able to get social security which is going to take away from all of us. 1.00

00:04:29.000 And we're going to cover that a little bit in brief today when we come back from the break.

00:04:34.000 And then, like I said, we're going to talk about it tonight on the program.

00:04:37.000 A little bit later on tonight on my program, we're going to talk about it.

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00:04:52.000 Again, I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex, host of A Closer Look.

00:04:56.000 We'll be right back after the break.

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00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 And again, Michael Corbin, host of A Closer Look, sitting in for Alex while he's at the Republican National Convention in New York.

00:08:30.000 And again, as I mentioned, coming up later on in the program today, Alex is going to join us.

00:08:34.000 He's going to update us on what is going on out there.

00:08:37.000 And we're going to find out.

00:08:39.000 Now he, as I mentioned, he's confronted David Gergen about Bohemian Grove, and he's also confronted Michael Moore, the sleaze of documentaries.

00:08:50.000 And we're going to get a report from him about that, about what happened with that, coming up again a little bit later in the hour.

00:08:56.000 Also, as I said, Paul Joseph Watson is going to join us.

00:08:59.000 He's Alex's webmaster for Prison Planet TV and PrisonPlanet.com, and also the author of Order Out of Chaos.

00:09:06.000 That comes up at the bottom of the hour.

00:09:10.000 Before we get started, I want to mention that what I've done here is during the broadcasting of my program, we set up a live chat area for people who don't have access to a telephone or can't call in.

00:09:22.000 The number today is toll free 1-800-259-9231.

00:09:23.000 1-800-259-9231 1-800-259-9231 But if you want to be able to chat or get into a chat area that I monitor and ask comments and questions there, you go to www.4acloserlook.com and sign up on the chat, the group chat associated with Philomax, and you can get into the chat area and be able to interact the group chat associated with Philomax, and you can get into the chat area and be able

00:09:50.000 We can take your comments and questions during the program at that chat area.

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00:10:02.000 Also, check out Alex's website, www.infowars.com.

00:10:05.000 We're going to be covering some of the stories that he's got on there during the three days.

00:10:09.000 Again, that's www.infowars.com.

00:10:12.000 Also, www.prisonplanet.com and www.prisonplanet.tv.

00:10:18.000 So, those are the websites.

00:10:21.000 Okay, now, I saw, I got an email the other day from someone about this totalization treaty with Mexico.

00:10:30.000 Now, I want to give out a web address and I want you to go through it because we need to have our representatives know how we feel about this whole program.

00:10:39.000 Now, according to the U.S.

00:10:40.000 Border Control, they're sending out an urgent appeal Asking everyone to take action immediately.

00:10:45.000 Now, a year ago, the organization, the U.S.

00:10:48.000 Border Control, warned that the Bush administration was planning to do something unthinkable.

00:10:54.000 They were seriously considering signing a pact with Mexico that would give any Mexican who had worked in the United States, including illegal aliens, full U.S.

00:11:03.000 Social Security benefits paid out of your Social Security Trust Fund.

00:11:08.000 Now, it seems so far-fetched to the U.S.

00:11:10.000 border control that they had trouble convincing the Congress that it could happen.

00:11:14.000 Well, a White House spokesman denied their claim that it was on a fast track, stating that the ongoing discussions for totalization were just informal and preliminary.

00:11:23.000 But they knew better, and they had obtained correspondence proving that it was on a fast track, and had seen plans for erecting a huge new building at the U.S.

00:11:32.000 Embassy in Mexico City, just to deal with the swarms of people that were anticipated to sign up for this raid on our Social Security Trust Fund.

00:11:40.000 Well, it was on a fast track, just as they said it was, and a few weeks ago, the President signed the Totalization Treaty with Mexico.

00:11:48.000 And unless you can persuade Congress to stop it, Uh, millions of Mexicans, including illegal aliens, will soon be living it up on your Social Security benefits. 0.99

00:11:58.000 Now, of course, the timing for repealing this outrageous treaty couldn't be worse, because, uh, the few days that you have to repeal this treaty are the same few days preceding the November election, when every congressman is campaigning hard for re-election, and the Congress is seldom in session.

00:12:15.000 Now, in short, it is a very underhanded way to sneak a terrible treaty past the Congress.

00:12:20.000 Now, I just read that was a statement by the U.S.

00:12:23.000 Border Control.

00:12:24.000 I want to invite you to go to their website at www.usbc.org.

00:12:29.000 No!

00:12:30.000 I'm on my way home.

00:12:33.000 How do you know all this stuff?

00:12:35.000 We just got wired into the system, sir.

00:12:37.000 What?

00:12:38.000 Well, I'd like to order a couple of your double meat special pizzas.

00:12:41.000 Sure thing.

00:12:42.000 There'll be a new $20 charge for those, sir.

00:12:44.000 What do you mean?

00:12:44.000 I don't hear anything.

00:12:45.000 Sir, the system shows me that your medical records indicate So anyway, I want you to go to the website at www.usbc.org.

00:12:53.000 That's www.usbc.org.

00:12:57.000 And check out what their appeal is and find out how you can let your congressman know.

00:13:03.000 And the other thing you can do too is you can go to the congressional website at congress.nw.dc.us.

00:13:12.000 And you can go there and check that out.

00:13:14.000 So again, that's congress.nw.dc.us.

00:13:18.000 Yeah.

00:13:19.000 I told you I was checking out this thing.

00:13:21.000 I've interviewed Congressman Tom Tancredo on my program several times.

00:13:25.000 This is one of my pet peeve issues.

00:13:28.000 And the first thing I want to say is that I don't I don't want my ranting and railing about this problem to be any kind of an indictment against anyone coming into this country illegally, because that is what America is all about.

00:13:44.000 We have always had an immigration policy, we've always allowed and always had open arms to people that wanted to come to the United States legally and become American and live as Americans.

00:13:57.000 But my problem is, is that number one, if a person comes into this country illegally, that first of all implies they have no respect for the law.

00:14:07.000 Because they have no interest in becoming American. 0.96

00:14:11.000 Now, the problem is, is that what we're having here is we have a whole lot of different agendas at play with this stuff.

00:14:21.000 And that's an understatement to say the least.

00:14:24.000 I think, you know, in the long run, I think what the idea is, is to Americanize Latin America, ultimately to create the new American states.

00:14:33.000 Now, some of you are aware of that, others may not be aware of it, but the goal is ultimately to remove the borders on the entire North American continent, and make it one giant country.

00:14:47.000 Canada, the United States, all the way down into Latin America.

00:14:51.000 Now that is a very big problem because in the first place, our systems do not work.

00:14:58.000 They would not work in other countries because the American concept is unique and it implies a certain mindset.

00:15:07.000 The problem is that Latin America is becoming, it has been, Mexico for example, has been socialist for 70 plus years.

00:15:16.000 The entire Latin American, Southern American part of the continent has been totally socialized.

00:15:24.000 And what you have, and again, you know, you hear a lot of think tanks.

00:15:28.000 Now, the Heritage Foundation, which, first of all, bills itself as a conservative think tank, has written an article that I want to talk about, because the problem is, is that, you know, you have both sides of the partisan aisle have their Their goals, and why they want to allow illegal immigration into this country.

00:15:51.000 On the liberal side, on the democratic side, they are looking for votes.

00:15:55.000 They're looking for as many votes as they can get.

00:15:57.000 Democrat, liberal votes.

00:16:00.000 As I mentioned, a lot of people coming in from the Latin American countries are socialists.

00:16:06.000 The Democrat side wants to have illegal immigration, or wants to turn a blind eye to it, just for that reason.

00:16:13.000 Because it gives them more bodies to cast votes to get their candidates in power.

00:16:20.000 On the Republican side of the ledger, you have big business.

00:16:26.000 Big multinational corporations and big businesses that get cheap labor this way. 0.92

00:16:32.000 So their incentive is money.

00:16:35.000 Their incentive is not to curb illegal immigration because it solves an economic problem that they have and that is being able to hire labor well below what a skilled laborer's talent would bring.

00:16:51.000 They're able to hire this labor cheaply.

00:16:53.000 Much, much cheaper.

00:16:55.000 So that's their incentive.

00:16:56.000 Now, the problem is, there's two things here.

00:17:00.000 The problem is that number one, Illegal immigration is wrong from the standpoint that all we're getting, and Congressman Tan Credo has spoke about this at great length, we are getting a lot of the crime and the dregs of their society in this country coming across the border. 0.99

00:17:18.000 That's the first problem.

00:17:20.000 Second problem is, and the one that's most paramount to me at this particular day and age that we're living in, is The borders are wide open for terrorists to come into this country completely unchecked.

00:17:33.000 And come into this country and wreak havoc and do whatever damage they're going to do. 0.99

00:17:39.000 That is the biggest primary problem that I have with all of this.

00:17:43.000 Because we know.

00:17:46.000 We've known this for several years.

00:17:48.000 That the terrorist networks are aligning themselves and reorganizing themselves in Latin American countries.

00:17:56.000 The drug trade that comes into this country, the primary source of drugs coming into this country is cocaine coming up from Latin America.

00:18:06.000 There are established drug corridors that come into this country and all the people that operate in those criminal cartels are very well aware of those shipping lanes, if you will, and those shipping lanes can be used by others who have money They can get access.

00:18:24.000 And ultimately that's what this is really all about.

00:18:27.000 You know, being able to get drugs into this country and to get terrorists in this country who will pay great sums of money to get in here illegally and either become sleeper agents or work to undermine the country and work to do harm to us.

00:18:46.000 And what I don't understand Is President Bush and Congress not doing something about this problem?

00:18:54.000 It is a serious problem.

00:18:56.000 A very serious problem.

00:18:58.000 And it is something that if we don't nail it down now, it's probably almost too late.

00:19:05.000 Because I was looking at statistics and coming back from the break I'll talk about these statistics that I was looking at.

00:19:11.000 They were published here not too long ago by the State Department and Homeland Security.

00:19:17.000 It's interesting to note that over the last couple of years there has been a decrease in the illegal immigration into this country from Middle East countries and almost a proportionate increase in illegal immigration from Latin American countries.

00:19:34.000 That should say something.

00:19:36.000 We'll take a break.

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00:24:20.000 I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones who is in New York covering the Republican National Convention.

00:24:27.000 As I mentioned he is going to be coming up with us in a little bit to give us an update on what is going on out there.

00:24:34.000 As I mentioned he confronted David Gergen about Bohemian Grove and he's also confronted The sleaze of documentary television and movies, Michael Moore, I personally just cannot stand that man.

00:24:47.000 But anyway, he's going to be talking about that.

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00:25:56.000 Good morning Jules, you're on the air.

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00:25:59.000 Good.

00:25:59.000 Listen, I have a bone to pick with you and Mr. Jones, ever so lightly, mind you.

00:26:07.000 My son, you know, he's Muslim.

00:26:10.000 Okay.

00:26:11.000 And, you know, he's a God-fearing person.

00:26:16.000 He loves his country.

00:26:18.000 He doesn't have any intentions of doing any terrorist activities, no plans, no schemes, no nothing.

00:26:24.000 Right.

00:26:24.000 They live here under the same constitution, you know, I mean there's many of them, there's even some who, now he's indigenous, he's born and raised here, but there's other people who are transported here, and they come here for the sole purpose of establishing a better life for their families, living under our constitutional laws, trying to be good citizens.

00:26:45.000 But, then you have, and we know all along that Bush and Kerry and all these other entities who are part of the different organizations that are plotting and scheming and bringing in the idea of terrorism to us.

00:26:59.000 What's your bone to pick?

00:27:02.000 Because I don't have any problem with your son being Muslim or living in this country and being a citizen.

00:27:07.000 I have no problem with that.

00:27:08.000 Well, the thing is, I would just hope that we would stop, not saying that we shouldn't be alerted, But everybody who comes across the border as a terrorist, supposedly as a terrorist, doesn't necessarily have to be a Muslim.

00:27:23.000 Well, you know, the thing is, is that the, the, uh, this is a very slippery slope, okay?

00:27:30.000 But, the problem is, is that there are Middle Eastern people that are involved in Al-Qaeda and things like that.

00:27:38.000 Now, granted, I believe that these groups like Al-Qaeda are financed at higher levels and by suits and ties, not necessarily Islamic people. 0.93

00:27:49.000 I would say that what we have to do is we have to be very careful.

00:27:54.000 We have to acknowledge the fact that there is a problem with terrorism.

00:27:58.000 Who is behind it?

00:27:59.000 We know.

00:28:00.000 But we still have to be aware and alert because this is a very complex situation inside of the government.

00:28:07.000 There are good people working in the government that are thinking that they're dealing with actual, real terrorists.

00:28:15.000 And the problem is that there are rogue factions in the government that are causing all this stuff to happen.

00:28:21.000 Correct.

00:28:22.000 We have to be very, very careful.

00:28:23.000 We should not judge a person by their skin color or their ethnicity and immediately judge them to be a terrorist if they're dark-skinned.

00:28:31.000 We should not do that.

00:28:33.000 But at the same time, this is part of the media propaganda that the mainstream media and the government is foisting on us, like people like Michelle Malkin, who's talking about profiling and all that, that it's okay, why we need to have it.

00:28:47.000 I disagree.

00:28:48.000 And quickly, I just wanted to say that, you know, we didn't look at all Protestants as terrorists, we didn't start, you know, Every time we've seen a person who's supposed to be Protestant taking pictures or just being themselves here in America as all Americans do. 0.59

00:29:06.000 They record the events of their family.

00:29:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:09.000 And so, I'm saying we don't recognize everybody who's of the same persuasion as Timothy McVeigh as a terrorist, nor should we do that to the immigrants who come over here or the people who actually live here and are born homegrown or should I say who have Become homegrown American.

00:29:28.000 You betcha, Jules.

00:29:29.000 Hey, I've got to go.

00:29:30.000 We've got to take the break.

00:29:30.000 Thanks for your call.

00:29:31.000 Thank you.

00:29:32.000 And again, we're going to take the break.

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00:33:16.000 I'm Michael Corbett, sitting in for Alex, who's in New York, covering the Republican National Convention.

00:33:21.000 And again, coming up later in the hour tonight, or today, he is going to be giving us an update.

00:33:25.000 He'll be calling in with an update about his confrontation with David Gergen concerning Bohemian Grove, and also his confrontation with Michael Moore.

00:33:35.000 I want to mention real quick about Bohemian Grove.

00:33:37.000 Alex has a video about Bohemian Grove.

00:33:40.000 If you haven't seen it, you really have to see it because it's very, very interesting.

00:33:44.000 Alex was able to infiltrate the Bohemian Grove a couple of years ago and film some of the rituals that were going on in there.

00:33:52.000 Let me tell you, some of it will give you the chills.

00:33:55.000 It will give you an idea of how the elite in the world are all part of this club, this pagan club, Believe it or not, a lot of this stuff has a very big influence on their politics, and their ideals, and their goals, and they are the people that are architects of the New World Order, and believe me, They have some big ideas about where they want to take it, and what they want to do with us.

00:34:22.000 And while I'm on that too, Alex has a new film, it's called American Dictators, documenting the staged election of 2004.

00:34:29.000 As I mentioned, this dynamic film covers how the election is staged, and there is no real choice between the candidates.

00:34:37.000 And of course we know that from seeing this political drama unfold over the last few years.

00:34:42.000 It includes information on Bush and Kerry's shared ancestry, their cousins, and their membership in the Skull and Bones.

00:34:49.000 Now, I'm going to read a little bit from the cover of this new film.

00:34:53.000 It says, in a dictatorship there is no choice, the elections are controlled, the police are the military, fear equals control, speech is suppressed, the economy is looted, and the people are slaves.

00:35:06.000 And we don't know the future, but we've studied human history, and regardless of who wins the November election in 2004, the New World Order wins.

00:35:14.000 And that's a quote from Alex Jones himself.

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00:36:07.000 Now, joining me from the UK is Paul Joseph Watson.

00:36:12.000 Now, Paul is a frequent guest on Alex's show.

00:36:16.000 He's also Alex's webmaster for PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:36:21.000 He's also author of Order Out of Chaos, and it's a pleasure to welcome to the program Paul Joseph Watson.

00:36:27.000 Good morning, or good afternoon, as it might be in your area of the world.

00:36:31.000 Good afternoon, Michael.

00:36:32.000 Good to be on the air today.

00:36:34.000 It's good to have you.

00:36:35.000 Now, real quick, we've got to cover some things that you've got to talk about.

00:36:40.000 Let's go ahead and start off there, okay?

00:36:43.000 Yeah, well, obviously I think we need to get into the police state actions taking place in New York at the moment.

00:36:49.000 And the New York Daily News has an article out today which they seem to think is kind of funny, but I think it's no laughing matter.

00:36:57.000 And it's posted on prisonplanet.com.

00:36:59.000 The headline I gave it is, New York cops arrest filmmakers for wearing bandanas.

00:37:05.000 And despite the fact that these filmmakers had all the necessary permits, you know, they need permission to film, but the government can give police handheld camcorders to go around filming, you know, protesters.

00:37:16.000 And we got photos of that on the website as well.

00:37:19.000 So, despite the fact that they had these permits, they were arrested for wearing bandannas.

00:37:25.000 So, I mean, to underscore, the characters in the movie were wearing bandannas.

00:37:29.000 It wasn't even a real protest.

00:37:31.000 It was, you know, on a movie set.

00:37:34.000 And so, because of this law that, you know, you can't use anything to mask your face, meanwhile, police units across the country are getting rid of badge numbers.

00:37:44.000 These individuals were handcuffed and thrown in the back of a van.

00:37:49.000 Yeah.

00:37:50.000 It's down to the level where fictional characters are being arrested on movie sets, which is quite extraordinary.

00:37:58.000 Yeah, it is.

00:37:59.000 You know, the thing is that it's getting very, very interesting out there on the street, too, because, you know, you see a lot of suspicion.

00:38:07.000 I'm in the Denver, Colorado area.

00:38:09.000 There was a news blip the other day about the veterans' hospitals that are now on the Heightened watch awareness of the Homeland Security Department.

00:38:19.000 They were talking about, you know, gaining or hearing reliable intelligence indicating that anybody that's taking pictures or filming or hanging around a veterans hospital is to be scrutinized by these guys.

00:38:34.000 It seems like it's getting so bad you can't do anything anymore without coming under suspicion.

00:38:40.000 It constantly makes you wonder who the government perceives as the terrorists.

00:38:46.000 Well exactly and they're still using the information which we now know has proven as being three years old or even four years old for these different targets that were supposedly under threat in New York City.

00:38:59.000 media trucks as well, in the same bracket as those veterans' hospitals that you mentioned, were listed as targets, which is obviously designed to kowtow the media into being alert and aware at the same time, you know, under that fear principle.

00:39:13.000 But on top of this, we're getting unconfirmed reports at the moment, and the indie media, why is it buzzing about all this?

00:39:20.000 This giant plastic green dragon, which some of the protesters were carrying as they marched, which was supposedly set on fire by black bloc anarchists, was actually set on fire by police provocateurs posing as anarchists.

00:39:35.000 Now, I mean, this is interesting, because notice that in the filmmakers being arrested story that I just mentioned, they were arrested for wearing black bandanas, but these black bloc anarchists, you know, who are wearing full face masks, are left completely alone by the police and allowed to set fire to things, which again suggests

00:39:57.000 Um, as with past examples in both Seattle in 99 and Genoa in 2001, that these individuals are being protected by the police and being allowed to stage these provocative actions and create havoc, which is not to say that All of the police are willing participants in this, obviously that's not the case because many would refuse and blow the whistle.

00:40:20.000 But all that would need to happen is that the order would come down for them to stand off and not make arrests of a particular group of people.

00:40:29.000 And the previous examples of that are documented on Alex's police state films.

00:40:34.000 So, I mean, let's not forget, though, that the Weathermen terrorist leaders, the people who were actually responsible for real terrorist bombings, which were covered up by the media back in the 70s, many of the leaders of this group, as was reported by the New York newspapers, Um, we're released from jail for the express purpose of causing mayhem and providing justification for this police state fear-mongering.

00:41:00.000 Mm-hmm.

00:41:01.000 Go ahead, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

00:41:03.000 So, I mean, it's interesting that, you know, these individuals who are wearing full face masks are being left alone while filmmakers who aren't even doing a real protest, they're filming a movie, are arrested for wearing bandanas.

00:41:17.000 So the contradiction is there, um, between the two groups.

00:41:21.000 You know, the thing is, people are not aware.

00:41:24.000 I mean, a lot of people in the audience are.

00:41:27.000 But I think that a lot of people are not aware of the fact that historically, terrorism has always been state-sponsored.

00:41:34.000 Now, the thing is, is that, like you're talking about here, where you have stage, you have provocateurs in a crowd, and it's kind of interesting because, you know, some of this is being brought on the Democratic Party, that they are, you know, responsible for putting some of these dissent groups up in these protest situations, and they're denying it, saying, oh no, we don't have anything to do with it.

00:42:01.000 But the problem is, is that Most invariably, they do.

00:42:06.000 That's a very common practice.

00:42:08.000 But a lot of people don't realize that what's going on here is that even though they may ignore certain groups of people, they are very convincing because, you know, your cop down on the street, like you said, most cops are good cops.

00:42:23.000 And they're doing what they perceive to be their job.

00:42:25.000 But the problem is that these provocateurs are unknown to even them.

00:42:33.000 They go in there and they do their job, and most of it is psychological warfare, where they work in the pre-demonstration meetings with a lot of people, implanting ideas using buzzwords and using various forms of subtle mind control to get people all stirred up.

00:42:52.000 I mean, the anti-war protesters that we see, that we've seen since we went into war with Iraq, You know, at the core of those anti-war protest movements is a communist agenda.

00:43:04.000 But they play upon certain sentiments and feelings of the American people, and they draw these people who have good intentions, who may not be necessarily against war itself, but against the Iraqi war.

00:43:20.000 And these people come to them, get involved with these things, and pretty soon before you know it, they're helping these provocateurs carry forth their agenda.

00:43:29.000 Well it's interesting you mention that because I actually had an email accusing Alex Jones Protecting the rights of left-wing protesters, but then not speaking out against such things as the fact that the protesters at the Democratic Convention were put in cages and so forth.

00:43:52.000 But I mean, at the time, obviously, we did relentlessly focus on that.

00:43:57.000 But with the left-wing funding and the communist agenda of some of these groups, that is proven by the fact that an article came out just last week, which is on the website, where Ted Turner funded a group called, I forget the name of the group, but it was one of the leading left-wing anarchist groups, to the tune of $100,000.

00:44:19.000 This is one of the groups that is out in New York today.

00:44:22.000 So we have the elite, so-called capitalists like Ted Turner, funding the so-called communist socialist groups.

00:44:31.000 You know, the other interesting thing is, is that, and you know when you talk about, when you hear the word domestic terrorism, Domestic terrorism, when they use that word, they're implying that there are groups within the United States that are carrying forth an agenda of terrorism against the United States.

00:44:51.000 The interesting thing is that I've always encouraged people, start looking at some of these groups like Earth First and some of those groups like that.

00:44:59.000 A lot of groups that are out there, that are like radical environmental groups, ecological groups, a lot of those groups are funded from nefarious sources.

00:45:08.000 And, you know, their agenda is to also basically disrupt, you know, the flow of things in our country.

00:45:16.000 So you have all of these groups that are working against us.

00:45:19.000 And then another interesting thing is that, you know, and going back to the thing about immigration, illegal immigration, These are things that I don't quite understand the double standard here.

00:45:30.000 And that is that there was also another article in the paper today here in my hometown about Level 3 Communications being the ISP for groups like Al-Qaeda and Al-Qud.

00:45:44.000 There's a law on the books now that forbids any American companies from doing business with terrorist organizations.

00:45:51.000 I don't understand how these kinds of things slip through the cracks just like I don't understand how President Bush and Tom Ridge at the Department of Homeland Security can sit back and say we need to have immigration laws when we already have immigration laws.

00:46:06.000 They're refusing to enforce them and they continue talking out of both sides of their mouths.

00:46:12.000 You know, what is really going on here?

00:46:14.000 And yes, I go back to these groups that are working to disrupt these events and things like that.

00:46:22.000 They are, in my estimation, they are funded by nefarious purposes that go to high levels.

00:46:29.000 Well, you mentioned the ISPs, the Al-Qaeda ISPs linking back to American companies. 0.57

00:46:35.000 We've done several articles in the past few weeks and months where these beheading videos and hostage videos were all uploaded from places like London, California and Houston and places like that.

00:46:47.000 They do not originate from anywhere in the Middle East.

00:46:50.000 So that suggests that these groups are within the U.S. and the makeup of those groups is not actually Muslim radicals.

00:46:59.000 It's in fact a government propaganda campaign, as we saw with the Berg beheading, which is just littered with examples of inconsistencies.

00:47:08.000 To again convince people of this widespread terrorist threat.

00:47:14.000 You mentioned the funding of the protesters again by the left wing.

00:47:19.000 It's interesting to...

00:47:22.000 Get a sense of who actually they're defining as terrorists because we had the New York Times report last week that the 50 leaders of all these protest groups received visits from the FBI under the jurisdiction of the Joint Terrorism Task Force.

00:47:38.000 So it's interesting to see how these people were flagged up in the first place.

00:47:43.000 And it's via things like the Matrix Program, which is a network of state databases subsidized by Homeland Security.

00:47:52.000 And when it was launched, it flagged up 120,000 people, most of which were American citizens as potential terrorists. 120,000!

00:48:03.000 If you really think that there are that many terrorists running around, you know, we'd see bus bombings every day.

00:48:08.000 It would be ten times worse than Israel. 1.00

00:48:10.000 So, of course, the goal is not to find real terrorists.

00:48:13.000 It's to equate peaceful protest as an activist, no matter what side of the political spectrum they're on.

00:48:19.000 That's right.

00:48:19.000 Terrorism, which again goes back to why these groups, these black bloc anarchists that do create mayhem, are controlled by the establishment because it's to smear peaceful protesters and label any form of dissent against the government as terrorism.

00:48:35.000 I mean, what's interesting about this article, which was Mining the Matrix, is that it talks about the creator of the Matrix system, a software analyst by the name of Hank Asher, who was the brainchild behind the program and showed it to the FBI and they took it from there and developed it.

00:48:53.000 Now our friend Hank Asher, it turns out, has a rather interesting history because he recently had to resign from the Board of Directors at Seizance Corporation because it came to light that he was caught smuggling plane loads of cocaine into the U.S.

00:48:53.000 Right.

00:49:07.000 in the early 80s.

00:49:09.000 Now hang on, Who's heard of Meena will immediately understand that this guy was probably working for the government.

00:49:15.000 But the bottom line is that a cocaine smuggler has developed with the government a database which has flagged up 120,000 American citizens as potential terrorists.

00:49:23.000 Yeah.

00:49:26.000 So, I mean, this is the nature of Big Brother.

00:49:28.000 You know, this Matrix program is basically a criminal enterprise designed by a cocaine smuggler to spy on Americans. 0.98

00:49:35.000 So, how blatant does it have to get before we understand, you know, the true face of all this garbage?

00:49:40.000 You know, it brings to mind, and I always go back to the Godfather movies, okay? 0.90

00:49:40.000 Absolutely. 0.90

00:49:47.000 And you hear Michael Corleone talking about legitimizing the criminal enterprise that the family is involved in.

00:49:53.000 What that is, is what we are seeing in the world today.

00:49:57.000 Because, you know, Sabel Edmonds, the whistleblower, the FBI whistleblower that was fired in 2002, talking about being approached within the FBI by a foreign intelligence group to go to work for them, but they were not associated with any country.

00:50:16.000 Well, you know, what she's trying to say, or what she is saying, is that It's a criminal enterprise, but it has a legitimate facade or frontispiece.

00:50:26.000 And it's got all the trimmings and trappings and the money to rival our own intelligence groups.

00:50:33.000 Paul, we're going to take a break, okay?

00:50:34.000 Hold on, alright?

00:50:35.000 Okay.

00:50:35.000 We'll come back to this following the break.

00:50:37.000 Our number today is 1-800-259-9231.

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00:50:44.000 Paul Joseph Watson is with me, and we will be back after the break.

00:50:48.000 I'm Michael Corbin, filling in for Alex Jones.

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00:54:36.000 Now his newest film is American Dictators documenting the staged election of 2004 and he also mentioned Masters of Terror and also Bohemian Grove.

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00:54:57.000 I can't wait.

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00:55:12.000 Paul, welcome back, and let's grab a call.

00:55:15.000 We've got Clyde calling in from Colorado.

00:55:17.000 Good morning, Clyde.

00:55:18.000 You're on the air.

00:55:19.000 Good morning, gentlemen.

00:55:20.000 I had one comment or question for you, and then I guess I do have a second question, but are you familiar with the term syndicalism?

00:55:28.000 Syndicalism?

00:55:30.000 No, not really.

00:55:32.000 Well, Paul, are you familiar with it?

00:55:34.000 Paul?

00:55:35.000 No, I'm not familiar with it.

00:55:37.000 Well, here's what syndicalism is.

00:55:40.000 Syndicalism is essentially an activity that's been made legal by government, but is of its nature unlawful and immoral.

00:55:50.000 The best single example of that is the Federal Reserve.

00:55:55.000 It's essentially a thievery A Ponzi thievery scheme.

00:56:00.000 And I think if you do some research on it, you'll find that there probably is, although I haven't researched it on the net or in books, I've been aware of it, and you can probably think of other kinds of activities that are essentially either constitutionally or from a point of view of moral values, unlawful and immoral, that are really syndicate.

00:56:20.000 They function as a syndicate.

00:56:22.000 Let's just say, you know, the term syndicate Normally it's associated with a criminal activity.

00:56:29.000 It's basically a criminal activity in the normal parlance of what we would think right and wrong that has been made legal by government.

00:56:37.000 I can think of a lot of things that go on today.

00:56:40.000 Welfare, taxes, you know, there's a lot of things that would fit under that category.

00:56:47.000 And indeed, this is the hallmark of a socialist government.

00:56:52.000 Because socialism comes in and makes the laws which completely restricts you from doing anything.

00:56:59.000 Everything is dealt with with a law, with a license, with a fee, with a fine, on down the line.

00:57:05.000 And that's how they keep you in check and that's how they control it.

00:57:09.000 And we're seeing this happening with large multinational corporations.

00:57:12.000 One of my big bones I pick is with insurance.

00:57:16.000 You know, mandatory insurance to drive your car.

00:57:20.000 There's a whole bunch of examples of this kind of stuff.

00:57:24.000 One thing that people don't understand when you study the real historical law of the country, coming incidentally, Paul, out of common law in England, you find out that when you do not really own anything, which we do not really own in the strict sense of the word, anything in America, there is no private property.

00:57:43.000 There is no private property.

00:57:43.000 That's right.

00:57:45.000 See, when you don't really own anything, when there's debt, whether you owe it on your own house or whether the governmental units that are around you have pledged your property as value, your body, your business, your whatever, your wife, your husband, your whatever, when they have pledged that as collateral in order to have a little piece of paper issued as a lien, a bond or whatever, then they are able to regulate that because they do not

00:58:12.000 As agents of the globalist banking, whatever you want to call it.

00:58:16.000 They have the right to regulate that in any manner, because you do not truly own it.

00:58:23.000 That's right.

00:58:24.000 We've got to move along for the break, but thanks for your call.

00:58:25.000 I appreciate it.

00:58:26.000 And Paul Joseph Watson is with me.

00:58:29.000 We're going to take the break.

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00:59:14.000 And again, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

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01:00:46.000 And welcome back, Paul, and thank you again for being with me today.

01:00:49.000 That's okay.

01:00:50.000 Okay, let's take more calls.

01:00:52.000 We've got people on hold here.

01:00:54.000 Let's take Mike, who is calling in from Pennsylvania.

01:00:56.000 Good afternoon, Michael.

01:00:57.000 You're on the air.

01:00:58.000 How are you today?

01:00:59.000 I'm doing good, thank you.

01:01:00.000 I'm a fan of the Power Hour and A Closer Look, and I think in the next four days we're going to find out how good of a host you really are.

01:01:06.000 I'm excited to listen to these next four days.

01:01:09.000 I'd like to ask you a question about the beginning of A Closer Look.

01:01:11.000 What president is that?

01:01:13.000 I love that clip, by the way.

01:01:15.000 What president is that that warns us?

01:01:17.000 That's Eisenhower.

01:01:18.000 That was Dwight D. Eisenhower.

01:01:19.000 That was his farewell speech to the nation.

01:01:23.000 He made that speech online, you know, on television.

01:01:25.000 And that was his farewell speech.

01:01:27.000 And that, I think, Mike, is very telling.

01:01:32.000 It was a warning to the nation, you know, about what it was that we were in the grips of.

01:01:36.000 And I think Eisenhower, who was cooperating with it, I think, in a lot of ways during his military career, I think he really began to see the handwriting on the wall.

01:01:49.000 I think a lot of presidents did toward the end of their terms, like Woodrow Wilson and such.

01:01:53.000 Can I please make a comment on, not the previous caller, but two callers ago, I have a comment on that.

01:01:59.000 I see more of his point.

01:02:00.000 I think what he was trying to say was, these Islamic fundamentalists, they continue, I mean, in my opinion, if you were to block off the borders completely, it wouldn't matter at all, because these Islamist people are not the ones that are really pulling the trigger.

01:02:15.000 They're not the ones that are, if the remote-controlled planes were flown, they're not the ones that did that.

01:02:20.000 They're not the ones that actually were behind the violence.

01:02:23.000 They were just taxis.

01:02:24.000 They're the MacPhays.

01:02:26.000 And really, even if they You know, they can create one.

01:02:29.000 They can take one that's born here and say, I'll give you a half million dollars if you build a witness protection program and put your face on the news, you know what I mean?

01:02:37.000 And let's not forget, Mike, that they are now, and I think that we've seen some examples of this, they are recruiting Americans.

01:02:46.000 Okay?

01:02:46.000 People that you would never suspect of being a terrorist.

01:02:49.000 They're recruiting people like that.

01:02:50.000 Look at John Walker Lynd.

01:02:52.000 Okay?

01:02:52.000 You've got guys like this that are falling prey to this stuff.

01:02:56.000 You know, the bottom line is this.

01:02:59.000 Is that if we just do what we're supposed to do...

01:03:02.000 If we're vigilant, we watch illegal immigration, we put a stop to the illegal immigration, and we're vigilant, we won't have any problem.

01:03:10.000 Plus, if people get busy and start demanding accountability out of their politicians and start prosecuting some of these guys that have been involved in this stuff for treason, I think we could bring this stuff to a rapid close.

01:03:22.000 I had an experience that happened to me.

01:03:25.000 Back in late 90s.

01:03:26.000 I'd love to show you really quickly.

01:03:29.000 Mike, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but we've got about 20 seconds.

01:03:31.000 Hold on, we'll take you coming back from the break, okay?

01:03:33.000 Okay, that's fine.

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01:07:39.000 Let's continue.

01:07:40.000 Let's go back to Mike in Pennsylvania.

01:07:42.000 Mike, go ahead and make your point.

01:07:44.000 We're going to have to move on though, okay?

01:07:45.000 I just want to make it a point that I'm also Muslim-Arab and when I was researching the story of the hijackers and all of them come up alive and they had their passports stolen, In the late 90s when they were here, that also happened to me.

01:07:45.000 Okay, yeah.

01:07:59.000 I came home one time and I had my passport completely missing.

01:08:02.000 Now what I did was I called some of my friends and I said, I got a question for you.

01:08:06.000 If you saw my face on the news and you had my Arabic name up there and they said I flew a plane into the towers, would you believe it?

01:08:13.000 They also said yes.

01:08:15.000 So that's very compelling.

01:08:17.000 You know, they'd know me 10 years or better and they still would have believed it.

01:08:17.000 Yeah.

01:08:21.000 You know, I want to, if I could real quick and then we can move on.

01:08:24.000 I wanted to say something about Jules' call, when he called earlier about his son.

01:08:29.000 You know, Mohammed Atta, who is supposedly the mastermind behind the 9-11 attacks, Mohammed Atta was not, and I would challenge anybody on this issue, was not an Islam. 0.96

01:08:42.000 I mean, he might have been Muslim by birth, but you show me a Muslim who is Orthodox in his faith and would be supposedly the way that they paint the terrorists to us. 0.64

01:08:55.000 You show me a Muslim, an Orthodox Muslim, that would partake in illegal drug use, Dealing in drugs, uh, you know, uh, uh, you know, uh, carousing, debauchery, the whole thing. 1.00

01:09:08.000 And I'll show you a guy who has nothing to do with Islam and who is basically in it for the money and is probably an agent for either the government or some rogue element in the government.

01:09:19.000 And that's the illustration here is, okay?

01:09:22.000 Those guys, you know, I don't know what, you know, this is the thing.

01:09:25.000 Picking through all of this is, is somewhat a complex issue because there's so many layers to this game.

01:09:31.000 Well, Michael, if I can just jump in there.

01:09:33.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:09:35.000 This thing about the Muslims and, you know, their rights being violated.

01:09:40.000 The ACLU and left-wing organizations will raise hell whenever there's an example or case of the rights of Muslims being violated.

01:09:48.000 But then, in the same sense, when, for example, pregnant women and businessmen are being strip-searched in airports, they will barely raise a whimper, you know, when senators are on no-fly lists.

01:09:59.000 So, when the left wing, the ACLU, take hold of those kind of cases, it becomes about racial profiling and not the fact that all our rights are being violated, whether we're black, white or Muslim, which goes back to the old thing that Hitler did where the Gestapo first rounded up the communists and nobody sympathized with the communists, so they didn't speak out when their rights were being violated.

01:10:23.000 People like the ACLU need to realize that this just isn't a war on freedom against Muslims.

01:10:28.000 It's a war on freedom against everybody.

01:10:30.000 You got it.

01:10:31.000 Exactly.

01:10:32.000 Thank you for taking my call.

01:10:33.000 Mike, thanks for your call.

01:10:34.000 Okay, Paul, we've got to take another call.

01:10:36.000 We've got Joseph calling in from Colorado.

01:10:37.000 Good afternoon, Joseph.

01:10:38.000 You're on the air.

01:10:39.000 Hello, how are you?

01:10:41.000 Thank you for taking my call.

01:10:42.000 I just wanted to say you guys are very brave.

01:10:45.000 How many news anchors out there are too afraid to tell the truth because they're afraid of losing their jobs?

01:10:51.000 No, it's just disgusting to watch the news now.

01:10:53.000 Anyway, I have a quick question for you or any of your viewers or anybody who wants to jump in.

01:10:58.000 Has anybody heard about the National Economic Security and Reformation Act?

01:11:03.000 Supposedly started from a farmers' union about ten years ago, they sued and proved that the IRS was illegal.

01:11:10.000 And supposedly it is supposed to be announced when it is.

01:11:15.000 Reform.

01:11:16.000 Anybody heard about that?

01:11:17.000 Well, I have heard of it.

01:11:18.000 I'm not up to speed on it, but I'm looking into it.

01:11:21.000 Paul, how about you?

01:11:22.000 No, I haven't, but it goes back into what one of the previous calls was talking about.

01:11:28.000 I believe he called it syndicalism, where the government legalizes what would normally be considered illegal or immoral.

01:11:35.000 I mean, the biggest example of that, even above the IRS or the Federal Reserve, is abortion.

01:11:41.000 You know, 42 million abortions since 1972.

01:11:45.000 And how that ties into what's going on in New York at the moment is the fact that yesterday we had Planned Parenthood stage a march.

01:11:53.000 I think it was across the Brooklyn Bridge.

01:11:55.000 And so again, that goes back to the point we were making earlier in the show where these radicals who are, you know, marching on completely immoral grounds We'll then smear good activists on both sides of the political spectrum by marching for pro-abortion rights.

01:12:12.000 So that's another example of what the earlier caller discussed.

01:12:17.000 Joseph, we've got to move along.

01:12:18.000 Thank you for your call.

01:12:18.000 Appreciate it.

01:12:19.000 Well, thank you for taking me.

01:12:20.000 Again, more power to you.

01:12:22.000 Power to the people.

01:12:23.000 Thanks, Joseph.

01:12:24.000 Okay, let's take another call.

01:12:25.000 We've got Mike calling in from Illinois.

01:12:26.000 Good afternoon, Mike.

01:12:27.000 You're on the air.

01:12:28.000 Hi, guys.

01:12:28.000 Doing a good job for Alex.

01:12:30.000 Thank you.

01:12:31.000 I want to ask you guys, Alex refers to this quite often, we're getting near the election, a couple months away, and I want to ask you both your opinion on what you think is a staged terrorist attack here in the United States before the election to throw the election.

01:12:44.000 Yeah, I've made predictions on my program, Mike, that there could be something.

01:12:51.000 I mean, they're floating these balloons.

01:12:53.000 I mean, you know, the idea a couple of months ago that if something like that happened, would the election be suspended?

01:13:01.000 I think that they're laying the groundwork for it.

01:13:04.000 I kind of feel that there might be.

01:13:05.000 Yeah, and either way, I think even if there's not staged attack and the Russians do follow through, and even if Kerry gets elected, as Alex referred to many times, it's no different.

01:13:15.000 Makes no difference.

01:13:16.000 Right, and they have both two Skull and Bones members, so they can't go wrong, I guess, right?

01:13:20.000 No, that's right.

01:13:21.000 Paul, any comment on that?

01:13:23.000 Well, yeah, it's like, you know, the Alien vs. Predator movie.

01:13:26.000 Whoever wins, we lose.

01:13:28.000 And the point about, you know, whether there will be a staged attack or not before the election.

01:13:33.000 I'm with Alex on that.

01:13:34.000 I think they'll wait until after the election because it's kind of already preordained that Kerry will win because his running mate Edwards was personally selected by the Bilderberg Group.

01:13:45.000 And on top of that, I mean, even in that sense, you know, if they're exerting that kind of influence within an election, then it shows where it's going to head.

01:13:52.000 But also Kerry's closer relations to European royalty, closer relations to the Queen of England, and as all the big, you know, peerage organisations have come out and stated, every president since Washington with closer relations to the Queen of England has won the election.

01:14:09.000 So again, that goes in Kerry's favour, and there is a kind of fissure within the New World Order Um, which we see as left and right, but basically, as Alex says, it's just two management teams competing for control of Slavery Incorporated.

01:14:23.000 So I believe that Kerry is the pick and you will see the stages of attack after the election and, you know, it'll probably be blamed on Iran because that war's been in preparation for several years. 0.84

01:14:33.000 You know, there's a misconception on the American public's part that fascism is extreme right and socialism is extreme left.

01:14:41.000 Fascism and socialism are left.

01:14:43.000 They're both left.

01:14:44.000 So right now, if you get right down to the basics, right now the left is in control.

01:14:50.000 They've always been in control.

01:14:52.000 Well, yeah, I mean, Hitler's party was the National Socialist Party, and most people don't remember that.

01:14:57.000 That's right.

01:14:58.000 So, in one sense, it's a circular equation.

01:15:01.000 It's not, you know, one end and the other end.

01:15:03.000 Yeah.

01:15:03.000 And all we say for people is to come to the middle.

01:15:06.000 I mean, we espouse basically libertarian values with a, you know, a conservative bent on issues like abortion and immigration.

01:15:14.000 People have hijacked that all along and the current administration does not owe any allegiance to any kind of conservative values as Bush's record proves with immigration and this so-called partial birth abortion ban which is in no way a ban because it's being overturned by judges across the country.

01:15:31.000 So it's about conservative rhetoric and liberal big government action.

01:15:36.000 Mike, any other comments?

01:15:37.000 No, you guys are doing a great job.

01:15:39.000 Alex, I actually didn't even hear about it, but that's great.

01:15:42.000 It's a dictatorship on the two leaders of the country, what, Kerry and Bush?

01:15:46.000 Yeah, it's called American Dictators Documenting the Staged Election of 2004.

01:15:49.000 And again, it's available by calling his toll-free number, 888-253-3139, or going to PrisonPlanet.com, or Good afternoon.

01:15:59.000 I'm Elizabeth Porter from the Divided Kingdom Show out here at WKDI in Annapolis, right after Alex, and we're one of his biggest supporters.

01:16:04.000 Paul, let's grab another call.

01:16:05.000 We've got Elizabeth calling in from Maryland.

01:16:06.000 Good afternoon, Elizabeth.

01:16:07.000 You're on the air.

01:16:08.000 Good afternoon.

01:16:09.000 I'm Elizabeth Border from the Divided Kingdom show out here at WKDI in Annapolis right after Alex.

01:16:15.000 We're one of his biggest supporters.

01:16:17.000 Also, I have a program on WWRB in the evenings.

01:16:20.000 I've called Michael.

01:16:22.000 Also, I would like to know what your frequency is.

01:16:26.000 I've never found your program and I liked listening to you last year.

01:16:29.000 What are your letters?

01:16:31.000 Well, we're on GCN.

01:16:32.000 We're on the Genesis Communications Network.

01:16:35.000 Is that 7535?

01:16:37.000 No, no.

01:16:38.000 What you need to do is you need to have the station program director or the technical person at the station contact GCN to get the satellite coordinates.

01:16:47.000 And they can pick it up the same way they pick up Alex's show on their radio station.

01:16:51.000 Well, that would be great.

01:16:52.000 I'll look into that.

01:16:53.000 And also, on the shortwave, what's your number there that you're on?

01:16:57.000 Or aren't you on it?

01:16:58.000 I'm not on shortwave.

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01:16:59.000 I'm just on the GCN.

01:17:00.000 I have a stunning article for you today, I think, when you and Paul were having this wonderful, cogent discussion of the Mohammeda-Otta, the true derivation of terrorism, plus the profiling.

01:17:13.000 Now, what I have came in our little local paper here in Easton, Maryland, August 19th, the Star Democrat, and it described how Representative Wayne Gilchrist and other representatives went to tour some of the Muslim countries, including Lebanon, and it says that they met with some business leaders there who were Muslim and Christian, and they decided, now get this, that the two main dangers were the extremists, Arabs, and the extremists,

01:17:43.000 U.S. Evangelical Christians.

01:17:46.000 Now, this takes us back to the Phoenix FBI flyer, doesn't it?

01:17:51.000 It sure does.

01:17:52.000 In which we had this profiling, and that was discussed, I believe, on the Jeff Wrens show by Clifford Carnicom.

01:17:58.000 I think, if I am correct, they profiled constitutionalists, gun owners, and Christians.

01:18:05.000 And another thing, I hope, Michael, you will repeat the wonderful information you were giving us so we can do something about this Social Security.

01:18:13.000 There was some kind of a glyph in the ACLU pizza commercial ran the whole time you were talking.

01:18:18.000 So please get into that again.

01:18:20.000 I will.

01:18:21.000 And we've got to move along for the break, Elizabeth.

01:18:22.000 Thanks for your call.

01:18:23.000 Talk to your program director there, okay?

01:18:25.000 I sure will, Michael.

01:18:26.000 All right, thank you.

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01:23:05.000 We continue with this edition of the Alex Jones Show, and I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex, who is covering the Republican National Convention in New York, and we're going to be joined with him at the bottom of the hour.

01:23:16.000 We're going to hear about his confrontation with David Gergen on Bohemian Grove, and also Michael Moore, the King of Sleaze.

01:23:24.000 Okay.

01:23:25.000 Paul Joseph Watson is joining me from the UK.

01:23:28.000 Paul, we've got a couple more calls we've got to grab here.

01:23:30.000 Okay, so let's move on.

01:23:31.000 John is calling in from Louisiana.

01:23:33.000 Good afternoon, John.

01:23:34.000 You're on the air.

01:23:35.000 Good afternoon, Mike and Paul.

01:23:36.000 I'd like to address this to Paul.

01:23:38.000 It's about what the subject was brought up earlier.

01:23:40.000 Famous celebrated Ike's farewell address.

01:23:43.000 Putting the finger blame on the military-industrial complex.

01:23:46.000 Now, we seem to forget that Eisenhower had been in total control of the military in this country for eight years.

01:23:54.000 Now, I think he was either devious or deceitful in his statement, or maybe he was in living fear that the great general was in fear for his life.

01:24:04.000 Because on May the 1st in 1960, seven months prior, some entity had violated his strict, explicit orders Forbidding any overflights over Russia or any flights anywhere on the frontier of Russia.

01:24:19.000 And in the famous, Gary Powers used to shoot down, which was a lie, somebody passed the order to do that.

01:24:30.000 And not the military, the military was not in control of that weather.

01:24:34.000 Who was in control of that?

01:24:35.000 The CIA.

01:24:36.000 The CIA.

01:24:37.000 And so, just a few months later, the CIA sabotaged the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, and just three years later, they executed a president.

01:24:48.000 So, he knew what he was doing, but he didn't have the guts.

01:24:51.000 This brave general didn't have the guts to name the CIA.

01:24:54.000 How do you answer that, Paul?

01:24:57.000 Well, as we mentioned earlier, a lot of these people, when they know they're coming to the end of their term, the end of their career, do often have these, you know, pangs of conscience, and we've seen it in many examples in the past, where they kind of go on a limited hangout.

01:25:13.000 They will name the system that controls us, which we need to face, which Eisenhower outlined in his speech, and we've actually, I think we're going to post the whole video, the actual video, not just the audio of that speech, on PrisonPlanet.tv, So, you're right in the sense that he will outline the system of control, but he will not name individuals, because then that puts his life under threat.

01:25:35.000 But again, in a sense, Eisenhower was just protecting himself, because if he was to sit on this knowledge of all this corruption that he, you know, personally had administered, then that, in the same sense as Jennifer Flowers came out and said, you know, that Clinton was having all these people killed, being out in the open, Is in a sense a form of protection.

01:25:56.000 So I believe that that's what Eisenhower was trying to achieve in his farewell address speech.

01:26:01.000 I prefer to believe that most of them take their dirty secrets to the grave with them.

01:26:05.000 But Paul, I would like for you to open up a discussion comparison between the report from Iron Mountain Blueprint and what is going on today.

01:26:13.000 There are very few people who have carefully read that and highlighted it.

01:26:18.000 Uh, as I have, just as in the Communist Manifesto.

01:26:21.000 Everybody yaks about it, but very few people have critically read that manifesto, and I think very few people have critically read this.

01:26:27.000 It is indeed frightful.

01:26:29.000 Go ahead.

01:26:30.000 Well, yeah, I outlined the report from Iron Mountain in my book called Out of Chaos.

01:26:34.000 And it basically states that the next threat, after the Cold War had ended, after this current terrorism threat, is going to be this cosmic threat, whether that be via the fear-mongering and hype of asteroids, or in fact some kind of staged alien threat.

01:26:51.000 So definitely... Worse than that, it points out that the enemy, the war machine enemy, is really the US public.

01:27:00.000 Well, that's right.

01:27:01.000 You're right.

01:27:02.000 I mean, look at where we are today.

01:27:04.000 They think of us as the terrorists.

01:27:06.000 Of course.

01:27:07.000 Of course.

01:27:07.000 John, we've got to move on.

01:27:08.000 We're back there.

01:27:10.000 1965.

01:27:10.000 Bye.

01:27:10.000 Okay.

01:27:10.000 Thank you very much for your call.

01:27:12.000 And let's grab one more call before the break.

01:27:14.000 We've got Kenny calling in from Wisconsin.

01:27:15.000 Good afternoon, Kenny.

01:27:16.000 We've got about a minute and a half.

01:27:17.000 Okay.

01:27:18.000 Thank you for taking my call, Mike.

01:27:20.000 Hi, Paul.

01:27:20.000 How are you doing?

01:27:21.000 Good.

01:27:22.000 Okay.

01:27:23.000 You know, something popped into my head, and a type of an analogy.

01:27:28.000 Remember in the old days, on the high seas, under Admiralty jurisdiction, of course, out there, the pirates flew a flag with a skull and crossbones.

01:27:39.000 And later on in history, there was the skull and crossbones that was worn by the SS.

01:27:47.000 Now today, it appears there's a society operating that banters the skull and crossbones.

01:27:55.000 I just thought that was just something that It's all about...

01:27:58.000 It's all about...

01:27:59.000 Now you look at the corporation, USA Inc., and regard that as a vessel, and the continent of the United States is the ocean.

01:28:11.000 Uh-huh.

01:28:12.000 Uh, Kenny, we gotta go.

01:28:13.000 Alright, thank you.

01:28:14.000 And those guys are all about death, and that's exactly what Skull and Bones is about.

01:28:18.000 Anyway, Paul, thanks for joining us today.

01:28:20.000 We're gonna get Alex on at the bottom of the hour, but thank you, and we'll be talking to you tomorrow, okay?

01:28:25.000 Okay, thanks, Michael.

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01:32:28.000 We're trying to reach him.

01:32:30.000 He's got a report for us on David Gergen.

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01:32:37.000 going to be giving us a call to uh give us an update and he'll be joining me each day now i'm filling in for him today tomorrow and wednesday i'll be with you those three days uh and each day alex is going to be calling in with a live update live report about the goings-on out there and uh and we'll be uh we'll keep you posted as to what is taking place in new york because we know the mainstream media isn't going to do the job they never do uh They just give you a little bit of either misinformation or they don't give you enough information.

01:33:07.000 So Alex is out there to make sure we get the whole scoop.

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01:34:45.000 Alex, hello.

01:34:47.000 Hey, Michael Corman, thank you so much for filling in for me, man.

01:34:50.000 Not a problem.

01:34:51.000 How are things going out there in New York?

01:34:53.000 Oh, it's going great.

01:34:55.000 I'm about to go back into the convention center.

01:34:57.000 Obviously, things are just getting cranky, and I've got a report for you on the massive protest yesterday and how I confronted Michael Moore, as well as David Gergen.

01:35:06.000 But first off, I want to thank you for filling in for me for the next three days.

01:35:10.000 That's going to be Erskine.

01:35:13.000 On Thursday and Friday.

01:35:15.000 I guess I should just go through a rundown.

01:35:17.000 We got into New York Saturday night.

01:35:19.000 Went out and started interviewing New Yorkers.

01:35:22.000 About half the people we talked to, from taxi drivers, to white people, to black people, to Arabs, it didn't matter, believe that the U.S.

01:35:29.000 government was behind 9-11.

01:35:30.000 A new Zoghbi poll just came out that the 9/11 truth movement paid for.

01:35:37.000 The Visibility Project, based right here in New York, just did a Zoghbi poll.

01:35:43.000 And I apologize about all the noise.

01:35:44.000 It's just bad luck out here.

01:35:46.000 You ought to hear when a protest is coming by.

01:35:47.000 Luckily, there's no protest right now.

01:35:49.000 But the 9/11 Visibility Project just did a Zoghbi poll, and 41% of New Yorkers think that the government was behind it.

01:35:59.000 And then a large percentage of the other grouping believe that they had at least prior knowledge.

01:36:03.000 It is a minority that don't think the government was behind it, or at least had prior knowledge.

01:36:08.000 So that's very interesting.

01:36:09.000 But this is what happened yesterday.

01:36:11.000 At about 8 o'clock in the morning, we started going around and covering all the different protests.

01:36:15.000 The news said 200,000 to 300,000.

01:36:16.000 I'm telling you, folks, it had to be half a million.

01:36:20.000 Dozens and dozens of major avenues and streets would have ten block long masses of people.

01:36:27.000 There was no organization to it.

01:36:31.000 Just dozens and dozens of city blocks were jammed with at least a half a million people.

01:36:37.000 They would go down in front of Madison Square Garden where the Republicans are having their national security event.

01:36:45.000 Hundreds of people got arrested.

01:36:46.000 The news said 200.

01:36:47.000 It was well over 200.

01:36:48.000 I saw more than 200 people get arrested.

01:36:52.000 Then we're walking around behind the convention center where the barricades are because there are several blocks around it.

01:36:57.000 It's a national security event and cars and people who don't have passes can't get into it, but we have passes.

01:37:03.000 And I got in there and here comes David Gergen, the big White House advisor to George Herbert Walker and to Bill Clinton and many others, top level White House advisor.

01:37:13.000 Here comes David Gergen walking right up to me, Well, in my film, Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove, we have the Washington Times article where he got kind of exposed on Bohemian Grove and he said, look, quote, I don't run around naked in the woods like the rest of them.

01:37:27.000 So I walked over, Michael, and I kind of ambushed him.

01:37:30.000 I was nice at first and brought up how the convention was going and what was he here for.

01:37:34.000 I have video of all this.

01:37:37.000 I have two cameraman behind me.

01:37:39.000 And then I said, well, what about Bohemian Grove?

01:37:41.000 What about the stuff that goes on in Northern California?

01:37:42.000 He said, I can't talk about that.

01:37:45.000 I shouldn't talk about that.

01:37:48.000 And then I said, well, I'm the guy that snuck in.

01:37:50.000 He goes, oh, my God.

01:37:51.000 And this is this nice, mild mannered, you know, six-foot-six guy.

01:37:55.000 He bends down, gets right in my face, starts bumping into me, going, how dare you?

01:37:59.000 You shouldn't have done that.

01:38:00.000 You shouldn't have, you know, blown the trust of us letting you in there.

01:38:03.000 And I said, no, I'm the guy that snuck in.

01:38:05.000 Then he got even madder, started using some mild profanities at me.

01:38:11.000 But, of course, hours before that, Michael Moore, I guess, to get attention for himself in his whitewash movie, flying over me or five black helicopters in a TAC formation and V formation, huge Blackhawks.

01:38:23.000 And they had them on the news where they got machine guns pointed at the public.

01:38:26.000 But anyway, side issue, there's also a huge Fuji surveillance blimp sponsored by the New York Police Department with ground penetrating radar and the rest of it, but again, Michael Moore was out here, and he marched maybe for 10-15 city blocks with one of the big marches.

01:38:42.000 Then he ducked off into this taco shop, and he had probably, I don't know, 10 big bodyguards with him, and they wouldn't let the public into the taco shop.

01:38:52.000 They just took it over.

01:38:53.000 So here's Michael Moore, who's always supposedly out ambushing people himself, chasing them around, going, oh, look at their elitism, look at their armed bodyguards.

01:39:00.000 Well, here he was with these armed bodyguards, with these bulging, you know, obviously firearms underneath their jackets and earpieces.

01:39:09.000 And then Michael Moore came out and this big bodyguard just shoved into me and I shoved right back into him.

01:39:15.000 It was pretty funny.

01:39:16.000 And then I just said to Mr. Moore, I said, "Mr. Moore, Mr. Moore, why didn't you talk about the stand-down of NORAD Why didn't you talk about how they were running drills in the morning of 9-11?

01:39:26.000 And then the police came up and basically enveloped Moore and took him off to his car.

01:39:29.000 So that happened.

01:39:31.000 And the convention's just starting today.

01:39:35.000 Michael, I've got several other points, but do you have any comments?

01:39:38.000 No, well, I was just going to say, you know, I'm sitting here listening to the report on Moore.

01:39:42.000 And, you know, my only comment is this typical sleaze, liberal sleaze.

01:39:47.000 They talk out of both sides of their mouth.

01:39:50.000 Well, absolutely.

01:39:51.000 And his film's a whitewash.

01:39:52.000 He doesn't hit on the real issues.

01:39:53.000 He doesn't show you the whole paradigm.

01:39:54.000 Oh, the Democrats are going to save us.

01:39:56.000 No, both sides are obviously controlled.

01:39:58.000 And I mentioned these security blamps.

01:40:00.000 You even did your neocon star piece a year ago.

01:40:03.000 And, of course, people, most people don't know that piece you did, that little dark satire, that spoof is based on reality, is going to have over 30 Yeah.

01:40:12.000 of these giant dirigible tethered at high altitudes on a huge cable in controlled airspace over every major U.S. city.

01:40:21.000 And they're gonna be 32 times, according to popular science, 32 times bigger than the Goodyear blimp.

01:40:28.000 So this is kind of a test case here, but over at the Olympics in Athens, they had a Fuji blimp that was sponsored by the government with cameras and scanner systems kind of interfacing with all the cameras on the ground.

01:40:41.000 Well, it's Fuji here, that same partnership.

01:40:43.000 It says Fuji, NYPD, and we talked to cops, the NYPD is renting it, and it's flying around scanning people.

01:40:51.000 So this is part of the conditioning process for these dirigibles to be used as giant surveillance platforms.

01:40:57.000 Yeah.

01:40:58.000 You know, I was reporting this morning on your program that the conservative media here in Denver has really downplayed the protesters.

01:41:06.000 They reported on the radio this morning that it was very peaceful there.

01:41:10.000 But I picked up the New York Times and saw quite the opposite.

01:41:16.000 Yeah, did you get that?

01:41:18.000 I'm sorry, my phone was cutting out.

01:41:19.000 Go ahead.

01:41:19.000 I said, I was reported this morning on your program that the conservative media, radio media, here in the Denver area was reporting that the protests were minimum there, but I picked up the New York Times and saw quite the opposite.

01:41:32.000 So the media... Well, absolutely.

01:41:33.000 Anybody that goes to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com, anybody that goes to any of the indie media sites, They've got shots from helicopters where you can see six, seven, eight big streets below you.

01:41:43.000 They're above the skyscrapers and every street is filled for miles with hundreds of thousands of people.

01:41:48.000 It had to be a half a million.

01:41:49.000 Listen, Michael, I would try to get ahead of marches.

01:41:52.000 I would get in taxis and cut around.

01:41:54.000 And it was like every street, there'd be 10, 15 streets.

01:41:57.000 Every street you go on, it'd be masses of people marching.

01:42:01.000 And then I got home to the hotel last night, turned on Fox News, and it's, well, there's really no protesters.

01:42:06.000 Everybody's happy.

01:42:07.000 New York loves it.

01:42:08.000 I haven't found a New Yorker who likes this, who likes Bush in this opportunistic fashion, neo-con fashion, coming to New York, returning to the scene of the crime that his masters carried out, trying to use the deaths of 3,000 people to act like he's some kind of hero.

01:42:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:26.000 Exactly.

01:42:27.000 What other observations and comments do you have, Alex?

01:42:31.000 Well, Michael, I'd like to try to get to the hotel actually from the broadcast booth and dial into the show where it's better audio on a cell phone here on the side of the road sometime tomorrow and I'll be reporting each day.

01:42:45.000 I mean, obviously, it's about 95 degrees here in New York.

01:42:49.000 It's funny.

01:42:50.000 I left Texas and came up here and it's hotter and more humid, so I'm out here dripping on the side of the road in this massive crowd.

01:42:56.000 But basically, where I'm going with that is there's so many facets and notes I've even written down that I wanted to talk about.

01:43:02.000 But standing out here, it's hard to recall all of that.

01:43:05.000 It's just been amazing.

01:43:07.000 One big area I wanted to talk about was the vicious communists. 0.76

01:43:12.000 We had communists openly say they wanted to kill us.

01:43:15.000 I mean, I'm talking people with big signs, the small minority of the marchers.

01:43:22.000 And we would just walk over and try to talk to them. 0.99

01:43:25.000 And they would say, "Get out of our way, "you imperialist garbage, you know, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:43:29.000 "We hate Bush, we hate Kerry." And I literally had like this old British guy shoving me. 1.00

01:43:35.000 And then his Cuban girlfriend or whatever, it was a total communist, was running over And I was saying, well, how can you be for communism? 0.93

01:43:41.000 You know, the big banks actually created that, the con, the serfs, back into slavery.

01:43:46.000 And they started, they started bumping into me and getting in my face.

01:43:51.000 They said, too bad Stalin didn't kill you.

01:43:54.000 And we've got video of that.

01:43:55.000 Then we talk to all these groups of young communists out there wearing their Red Star shirts, and they were getting in our face.

01:44:01.000 Just very hateful.

01:44:02.000 And that's what made me a conservative to begin with when I was back in college, was just the viciousness of these ultra-left-wing people. 1.00

01:44:08.000 They're so hateful, they're so stupid. 1.00

01:44:10.000 And every time I try to talk to them, they go, we're not allowed to talk to the media. 1.00

01:44:13.000 You've got to talk to our leader. 0.99

01:44:15.000 Him was this old, fat British guy who was just totally obnoxious. 1.00

01:44:21.000 Also, the anarchists, we've seen them out trying to provocateur things, burning papier-mâché dragons, burning things, trying to get other people in trouble. 0.92

01:44:30.000 And every time an anarchist does something, as usual, folks, the cops go after the peaceful crowd and the anarchist slips away.

01:44:37.000 So it's clear that most of these anarchists And they're very small.

01:44:41.000 I'd say one out of a hundred might be an anarchist.

01:44:43.000 They're very small knots of these people, and they're obviously out provocateur-ing.

01:44:47.000 They want things to get violent.

01:44:49.000 They want there to be a crisis.

01:44:50.000 They want there to be some type of breakdown.

01:44:52.000 Yep, absolutely.

01:44:53.000 And that is the mark of a provocateur.

01:44:56.000 Well, I tell you, talking to the protesters, talking to the demonstrators, one of the most exciting things is, Michael, and I'm not kidding, when I put a film out on this, I'm going to put it out quick because it's so important, literally, yesterday in those crowds, I had 200 people come up to me who live in New York or in the surrounding I had 200 people come up to me who live in New York or in the surrounding They talked about you, talked about other talk show hosts on the network.

01:45:19.000 They're fans, they're informed.

01:45:21.000 I saw Info Wars bumper stickers on the backs of people's backpacks.

01:45:25.000 I saw hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.

01:45:29.000 I'd say there were 10,000 total 9-11 cover-up signs that people had.

01:45:36.000 So, in amongst all these signs, dotted amongst them, were 10,000 of these exposed 9-11 cover-up signs.

01:45:46.000 Almost all of them had seen Road to Tyranny.

01:45:48.000 Almost all of them were aware of the New World Order.

01:45:50.000 They had broken through the fake left-right paradigm.

01:45:53.000 I had people that looked like hippies jumping on the communists with me, going, you guys work for the banks, you guys are part of the system.

01:45:58.000 So we really see a paradigm shift.

01:46:01.000 happening i'm just one guy in the nine eleven truth movement there are thousands of prominent people now even a better job than i am and i could go behind the truth of this for long ago back full circle that's on the poll forty one percent of people here in new york now believe the government was behind nine eleven and you have a massive That is massive.

01:46:20.000 That's a lot of people.

01:46:22.000 That's a lot of people indeed.

01:46:23.000 And it shows, Alex, what you're reporting and what you're finding down on the street is that the New World Order is not making their gains and their goals the way that they want because the people are aware.

01:46:36.000 They're starting to wake up and through programs like yours and mine and the GCN Network, they're finding out what the reality really is.

01:46:44.000 Exactly!

01:46:45.000 And, again, right after the tragedy here, when Bush came to the scene of the crime and threw him a rubble with the fire chief and, you know, gave us that image of him being the savior, that's when they decided to make this the Republican National Convention site, about two-plus years ago.

01:47:00.000 Now, people totally turned against him.

01:47:02.000 They see the truth in almost half the city.

01:47:04.000 No one knows what's really going on.

01:47:07.000 Everybody else I talked to He's extremely suspicious and says they at least had prior knowledge and let it happen.

01:47:14.000 Now I was a crazy cook, day one, saying the government was behind it.

01:47:17.000 Right.

01:47:17.000 But now we've, again, seen a total shift and that's why I'm afraid the globalists are going to have to move fast with some type of crisis creation, Michael, to try to condition us to accept this.

01:47:28.000 Absolutely, Alex, and you know that's the thing.

01:47:30.000 They're behind schedule and that's why I'm very fearful that something is coming down the pike. 0.99

01:47:35.000 It has to.

01:47:37.000 Absolutely, but it was quite a day yesterday.

01:47:39.000 It's already started out amazing today, but Michael Moore, David Gergen...

01:47:44.000 Later, I'll call in tomorrow from the hotel room or from inside the convention center and give you a more detailed account of it.

01:47:50.000 I still want to go back and watch the video, but Gergen got his face contorted from this little nice guy act.

01:47:55.000 David Gergen's got that whole act, big presidential advisor.

01:47:58.000 He got right in my face, leaned over me, started bumping into me, poking my chest, going, how dare you come in Bohemian Grove?

01:48:03.000 How dare you?

01:48:04.000 You're the one.

01:48:04.000 I can't believe that.

01:48:05.000 You bleep, bleep, bleep.

01:48:07.000 How dare you?

01:48:09.000 He was so angry.

01:48:10.000 I said, are you part of the ritual?

01:48:11.000 He said, get out of here.

01:48:12.000 I'm not going to talk about it.

01:48:13.000 Oh, boy.

01:48:14.000 Well, that's what happens when you shine light on cockroaches, don't it?

01:48:19.000 Absolutely.

01:48:19.000 And his whole nice guy act disappeared like a vapor in the morning sunshine.

01:48:26.000 And he took that mask off really quick.

01:48:28.000 And then Moore, again, here's Moore, who claims he's this man of the people.

01:48:31.000 And he's always chasing people around who have bodyguards and who are elitist and who shut down restaurants so the common people can't eat them.

01:48:39.000 And here's Michael Moore having everybody basically thrown out.

01:48:42.000 And sitting there, and then when he comes out, his bodyguards just start viciously shoving people, shoving fans!

01:48:47.000 People going, Manco, Manco!

01:48:49.000 And I'm just there with a little camera, with my big camera crew behind me.

01:48:52.000 I got there first.

01:48:52.000 Somebody I know in New York called me and said he's right up the road.

01:48:56.000 And it was all, I don't know, four or five news cameras.

01:48:59.000 Four or five news cameras.

01:49:01.000 New York drivers, folks.

01:49:04.000 And just, I can't describe it.

01:49:05.000 People will have to see the video.

01:49:07.000 But Michael Moore has become what he claims that he always hated.

01:49:11.000 Yeah.

01:49:12.000 Hey Alex, we've got to take the break.

01:49:13.000 Are you going to hold on?

01:49:15.000 You know what, Michael?

01:49:15.000 I think you've got a guest coming up.

01:49:17.000 You've got some other news you want to cover.

01:49:18.000 So that's my report for today and the next hour.

01:49:21.000 If anything develops, I will call back in.

01:49:23.000 But I'll be joining you tomorrow, probably for about 45 minutes or so, and God bless you.

01:49:27.000 All right.

01:49:27.000 Same to you, Alex.

01:49:28.000 Take care.

01:49:29.000 Thank you to all the listeners.

01:49:30.000 God bless.

01:49:31.000 Okay.

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01:53:23.000 Again, Alex Jones on the ground in New York.

01:53:26.000 And as you heard him say, he's going to join us tomorrow and Wednesday.

01:53:28.000 I'm filling in for him today, tomorrow and Wednesday.

01:53:31.000 And then of course, Erskine is going to do it Thursday and Friday.

01:53:34.000 But he is going to be covering this Republican National Convention in New York.

01:53:39.000 He's going to join us tomorrow and the next day and probably into the rest of the week.

01:53:43.000 Giving us updates about what's going on.

01:53:45.000 I'm looking forward to his report tomorrow.

01:53:47.000 Hear more about David Gergen and also Michael Moore and what other things develop.

01:53:53.000 In the meantime, let's take some calls.

01:53:55.000 We apologize and glad you've held on and thank you for waiting.

01:53:58.000 Let's take John in Ohio.

01:53:59.000 Good afternoon, John.

01:54:00.000 You're on the air.

01:54:01.000 Yes, I think that what you and Alex Jones are doing are very good in your analysis of the collusion of the Uh, corporate globalists, the CIA behind 9-11, the police state measures, all of these things.

01:54:15.000 But I have some very basic disagreements.

01:54:18.000 And I don't belong to any organization, but I do read some sites like WSWS.org or Workers.org.

01:54:26.000 These are socialist websites and they are doing things that are in parallel.

01:54:31.000 With what you're doing, there's no need to have this kind of opposition.

01:54:35.000 They're exposing, such as the World Socialist website is exposing the collusion of the neocons, all the evidence of their collusion in 9-11, the police state measures.

01:54:47.000 And I think that there's a fatal and dangerous Achilles heels among some conservatives to put everything into an anti-communist peg, or an anti-communist stereotype.

01:55:00.000 And I think the military-industrial complex, the CIA, All of their attacks against our civil liberties over the years, that Eisenhower warned about, whether it's the military-industrial conflict or the CIA, has been based on anti-communism.

01:55:15.000 All of their wars, their attacks against Latin America, Central America, have been based on this.

01:55:21.000 And when you look at Project Northwest, for instance, it was directed against Cuba, ultimately to frame up Cuba for attack.

01:55:30.000 And so I think there's a parallel to the Manchurian Candidate.

01:55:33.000 All that I think some of these neocons have to do is call somebody conservative on the phone and say, no longer will we put an anti-terrorist label on all of our warmongering against countries like Iraq and Iran.

01:55:47.000 Now we're going to go after Cuba or North Korea or China. 0.86

01:55:50.000 We'll put an anti-communist label on it.

01:55:52.000 And all of a sudden the conservatives' heads will step in and say, I will now obey.

01:55:56.000 And I think it's all part of the same thing, whether they use an anti-terrorist label or an anti-communist label.

01:56:01.000 Well, John, what I would like to do is respond to that, because I agree with what you're saying, but this is what the real game is.

01:56:07.000 You've got to peel another layer away, and you find that the New World Order, the constituency that makes it up the center of the onion, if you will, They are using a Hegelian dialectic here.

01:56:18.000 They're controlling both sides.

01:56:20.000 In other words, they create the crisis, they create the solutions, and they create the alternative choice.

01:56:27.000 And so, when you say that the communist socialist websites are warning us about the same things, the thing is that they all contain elements of truth, but it's their analysis and where they want to go with it That I take exception to, but you're right.

01:56:46.000 There's always been either an anti-communist platform to the whole entire Cold War, but we've got fascism, we've got communism, we've got all these different things.

01:56:58.000 You know, Hitler stole the word socialism from the Socialists and the Communists because they were very popular in that country, unlike here where it's been attacked.

01:57:08.000 He had millions of Communists and they stole that word, but he killed, as you said, The first people, as Paul Joseph Watson said, they did kill, even before the Jews and others, was the Communists, because they were the main obstacle to the aristocratic military-industrial complex.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, well they all served a purpose.

01:57:24.000 But we've got to move on.

01:57:25.000 Thanks for your call.

01:57:26.000 And we're going to take a break.

01:57:28.000 When we come back, we'll continue.

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01:57:31.000 I'm Michael Corbin, sitting in for Alex Jones.

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01:57:39.000 Introduce...

01:57:45.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 And welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.

01:58:10.000 I'm Michael Corbin.

01:58:12.000 Sitting in for Alex Jones, who, as you've heard, is in New York, on the ground, so to speak.

01:58:18.000 He's covering the Republican National Convention, and he was just on with us, and he will be back with me tomorrow to give us an update.

01:58:25.000 But I found it really interesting, his report, the Zogby Poll, indicating that 40% of New Yorkers do not believe George Bush's rendition of 9-11.

01:58:37.000 They believe that he was involved or had knowledge of it and it's very interesting because there is a massive amount of people in New York protesting the Bush presidency despite the fact that the conservative radio media at least in my area today reported it was very quiet in New York but listening to Alex's report It was quite noisy and Alex was talking about a couple of hundred thousand people there protesting against Bush.

01:59:06.000 So it's indication to me that the veil is wearing thin.

01:59:11.000 The veil is wearing very thin.

01:59:13.000 The game is about up.

01:59:15.000 And of course, this is an indication to a lot of people that the mainstream media mouthpieces that go on and blather all day on the radio and try to convince you that John Kerry or George Bush, either one, are going to be good for the country.

01:59:34.000 The game is about up.

01:59:35.000 People are starting to realize that they're opposite ends on the same bird of prey.

01:59:42.000 Our number again today is 1-800-259-9231.

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01:59:48.000 Going back real quick to a caller we had, Elizabeth in Maryland, I want to just make it aware, make aware to the program directors that are listening to Alex's show, if you're interested in carrying any of the other GCN programs, my program is called A Closer Look.

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02:00:22.000 Again, my program is called A Closer Look.

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02:00:34.000 So that's how you get access to it.

02:00:37.000 And also my website is www.4acloserlook.com Yeah, did you hear me sigh just a minute ago?

02:00:47.000 and listen live via the internet stream there.

02:00:50.000 That's available there.

02:00:52.000 And all of our archives are there as well.

02:00:54.000 Again, that's www.4acloserlook.com.

02:00:59.000 Now, before we get to my guest, William Kennedy, who's going to come up after the next break, let's take some more calls.

02:01:04.000 We've got Fred calling in from Pennsylvania.

02:01:06.000 Fred, thank you for holding so long.

02:01:07.000 I apologize.

02:01:09.000 You're on the air.

02:01:10.000 Yeah, did you hear me sigh just a minute ago?

02:01:12.000 No, but I could feel it.

02:01:13.000 Oh, okay.

02:01:15.000 All right.

02:01:16.000 I want to give to you and the show and viewers, I mean the listeners, something tangible and not just opinion.

02:01:25.000 Here's a fact.

02:01:26.000 There was a patent issued for a, quote, control system for air vehicles.

02:01:34.000 And the patent discusses the system and or method provided which, well it says it cuts down on the likelihood of terrorism.

02:01:44.000 Right.

02:01:45.000 But it also redirects a plane to land, boat, at a selected airport and or runway.

02:01:54.000 Let me give you the patent number.

02:01:56.000 Okay.

02:01:56.000 Let me give you the number.

02:01:57.000 673-2022.

02:01:57.000 And you can look that up, you know, on the internet, on the Patent and Trademark Office website.

02:02:07.000 Okay.

02:02:08.000 And basically, I wanted to say is that This is a great show.

02:02:15.000 We have people calling in with all these points of view, but we should start getting into tangible, uh... Proactive.

02:02:24.000 Tangible evidence of this, uh, of this cover-up and, and, uh, horrible, uh, 911 attack.

02:02:32.000 Fred, we gotta move along, though.

02:02:32.000 You betcha.

02:02:33.000 We gotta take the break, okay?

02:02:36.000 Thank you for your call.

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02:08:38.000 Now, before I get to him, let me bring up a Reuters report.

02:08:41.000 Recently, it was announced on the 29th of August, which was Sunday, That the California Roman Catholic Church may pay one and a half billion dollars to settle claims.

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02:09:05.000 More than any other U.S.

02:09:07.000 diocese has paid.

02:09:09.000 That's according to an attorney for more than a hundred alleged victims.

02:09:12.000 Now the settlement figure is based on a request by the lead attorney for hundreds of plaintiffs who live within the most populous US archdiocese that church officials set aside 3.1 million dollars for each claimant in Los Angeles and the adjacent diocese of Orange County just south of Los Angeles.

02:09:31.000 Now the church in Los Angeles faces about 493 child molestation claims.

02:09:37.000 The Orange County Diocese faces 63 similar claims.

02:09:41.000 The combined number of claims in both dioceses is greater than in any other diocese.

02:09:46.000 Now, we're going to find out, talking with my guest William Kennedy, who is the author of Lucifer's Lodge.

02:09:52.000 We're going to find out what's going on.

02:09:54.000 What is happening here?

02:09:56.000 William, thank you for being on the program.

02:09:58.000 Thanks for having me, Michael.

02:10:00.000 Let's talk about your book.

02:10:01.000 What's going on here?

02:10:02.000 I just talked about this billion and a half dollar settlement that's being proposed in Los Angeles in the diocese there in California.

02:10:09.000 What is going on?

02:10:11.000 493 people alleging sexual abuse.

02:10:15.000 Yes, Michael.

02:10:16.000 Well, in my book, Lucifer's Lodge, Satanic Ritual Abuse in the Catholic Church, which you can get at luciferslodge.net, I take a good look at what is going on in Los Angeles.

02:10:30.000 Now, the settlements you see now are actually part of a larger global situation within the Church of Rome wherein there is a top-down problem of bishops and cardinals protecting and transferring pedophile priests Right.

02:10:50.000 Some of whom are involved in satanic and occult rituals as part and parcel of their sexual abuse of children and women. 0.79

02:10:59.000 Right.

02:11:00.000 Now, what my book looks at, my book will give a sort of a bird's eye view of the entire situation around the world and how the church hierarchy, now I'm a Roman Catholic myself, so I'm just making observations and criticisms of my own religion.

02:11:21.000 So, you know, I can't really be accused of anti-Catholicism because, again, I am a Catholic myself, but what has happened is there is nothing less than a satanic cabal within the Roman Catholic Church. 0.52

02:11:40.000 Satanist priests and even several Satanist bishops have infiltrated the Church and have this secret 0.92

02:11:49.000 uh... society of luciferian child molesters and women rapists who are posing as catholic priest right now the situation in los angeles that's the tip of the iceberg of a much larger situation and uh... that was a particularly hot area for uh... pedophilic pedophile priest and uh... abusers of women 0.52

02:12:14.000 Now, you know, let's cut to the heart of this thing here, because the title of your book implies something, I think, that's very, very worth noting. 0.95

02:12:23.000 Because, again, I realize you're not, in other words, you're not defending nor are you condemning the greater church itself, as much as you're rooting out these evil guys.

02:12:35.000 And there is a network, it appears, of what?

02:12:39.000 What's going on with this?

02:12:42.000 The title, Lucifer's Lodge, I actually got from the late Father Malachi Martin, who was aware of the entire situation in the Church when I spoke to him back in 1996.

02:12:51.000 Now, Lucifer's Lodge would be a manifestation of the New World Order into the Church of Rome.

02:13:03.000 It's part and parcel of a greater cabal of globalists, who are also Luciferians, And it's interesting, you were mentioning the Skull and Bones earlier.

02:13:15.000 Many of the ceremonies that have been reported in the mainstream media, you know, like the Associated Press, mimic many of the rituals that you see in the Skull and Bones initiation ceremony.

02:13:28.000 Isn't that interesting?

02:13:28.000 Including laying in a coffin, such things as that.

02:13:32.000 Yeah, isn't that interesting?

02:13:36.000 It's not too far away from mainstream politics.

02:13:40.000 The big thing the Catholic Church is trying to do right now is they're using the bad apple argument.

02:13:46.000 We have a few bad apples amongst our priests and we're rooting them out before they rot out the whole barrel.

02:13:55.000 But the more you look at the facts, that's simply not the case. 0.97

02:13:59.000 This is an organized international Um, conspiracy to keep these pedophile and rapist priests going and there's just been more information that came out of Texas that the Catholic Church is also transferring people internationally who are pedophiles. 0.97

02:14:21.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:14:22.000 So if someone has a problem in the United States, they transfer them down to Mexico, protect them, and they start up doing the same thing again.

02:14:29.000 Right.

02:14:30.000 You know, I was talking with Jonathan Levy, who is an attorney that's suing the Vatican Bank, you know, for the atrocities that occurred in Croatia in the 40s.

02:14:39.000 And, you know, the interesting thing is that Marcinkus, Bishop Marcinkus, is living now, in retirement, in Phoenix, Arizona, under diplomatic immunity.

02:14:49.000 So, nobody can talk to him, despite the fact that, you know, he was a major player in the Vatican Bank scandals, you know, that led to, ultimately, to the failure and the loss of over a billion dollars of money.

02:15:03.000 You know, but there is a very vast entrenchment of corruption that has not only infiltrated the Catholic Church, but we have seen this in our government institutions, our educational institutions, and our religious institutions.

02:15:20.000 Well certainly, the situation in the Catholic Church is just a manifestation of the same phenomenon we really see at the top of our hierarchy throughout, you know, economics and politics and what have you.

02:15:35.000 Yeah.

02:15:35.000 Right.

02:15:36.000 Precisely.

02:15:36.000 It's the same scenario that keeps playing out.

02:15:38.000 Yeah.

02:15:40.000 Let's do this Bill, if we could.

02:15:41.000 Kind of cite some of the examples that you bring to the fore in your book regarding, and when you say Luciferian, maybe you could tell the audience what you define as a Luciferian.

02:15:53.000 Okay, well I make a distinction in my book.

02:15:55.000 There's Satanist priests who are Peter files and then they're a Luciferian priest basically a Satanist Catholic priest is one who worships or evokes the name of Satan in rituals while they are abusing children and a Luciferian now that's a little bit I have a specific definition those are Catholic priests who in their abuse of women

02:16:25.000 actually mimic Lucifer's Rebellion and take on the persona of Jesus Christ in various arcane sex rituals.

02:16:34.000 And I have two cases in my book there.

02:16:38.000 Father James Foley and Father Robert Meffin actually ran very small Luciferian cults here in Massachusetts and had women, and even nuns, worship them as, you know, Jesus himself In various occult sex ceremonies.

02:17:00.000 Luciferians are very political animals as well, and in a lot of ways, when we talk about the New World Order, we're dealing with, at the core of that, a Luciferian ideology that is hell-bent on taking over the world.

02:17:15.000 Well, certainly, you have to remember that within this context of Satanists and Luciferian priests, They are all working in conjunction with higher-ups in the church.

02:17:27.000 They're protected by bishops.

02:17:28.000 They're protected by cardinals. 0.99

02:17:30.000 We've got to take a break.

02:17:30.000 Hold that thought, okay?

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02:22:11.000 My guest today is William Kennedy and he's the author of Lucifer's Lodge and as he said his website is luciferslodge.net and I mentioned earlier at the beginning of the hour with William there is a billion and a half dollars coming down on the table in the California to settle

02:22:31.000 Lawsuits and allegations of sexual abuse by priests and Bill has written this book detailing some of the problems that we're seeing and I want you to keep in mind that these problems that are cropping up are just an example of one slice of society where these factions have infiltrated these organizations and are out for your mind and your soul.

02:22:56.000 And that's what this is all about.

02:22:59.000 So it's not just refined to the Roman Catholic Church, but we're seeing a lot of that falling out into the news media today.

02:23:06.000 Welcome back, Bill, and if we could, let's take some calls.

02:23:10.000 We've got Paul calling in from Delaware.

02:23:12.000 Good afternoon, Paul.

02:23:13.000 You're on the air.

02:23:17.000 One point I wanted to make.

02:23:19.000 The caller, Elizabeth, that has the Divided Kingdom show at WKDI, she was also saying that she wanted you to cover that social security issue where the illegal immigrants are going to be getting free health care and stuff off of our backs.

02:23:33.000 So please cover that.

02:23:36.000 I like your show, but man, you have some bizarre guests on.

02:23:39.000 The only time I've ever heard you before was when you were talking about the lady who lost her kid.

02:23:45.000 Man, I need some better documentation, man.

02:23:47.000 And tell me, get me some video, get me some other stuff, please.

02:23:51.000 Okay, well you know what?

02:23:52.000 I encourage people to do, as I put this stuff out there, I encourage people to go out and start digging for themselves.

02:23:57.000 And it is a reality because, you know, the kinds of topics that we bring to the programming here illustrate serious problems that are not covered by the mainstream media.

02:24:08.000 Uh-huh.

02:24:09.000 And they're very well documented, by the way.

02:24:10.000 They are.

02:24:11.000 Okay, I know.

02:24:11.000 I know there is, you know, some things are bizarre, but I'll tell you, I just, you know, I've seen her story other than that, and I just have not been convinced.

02:24:21.000 And I just, you know, maybe I need to dig deeper probably.

02:24:24.000 But yeah, please cover that before you forget about the Social Security and the illegals, you know, getting all that free health care. 0.95

02:24:31.000 Okay, I'll do what I can.

02:24:32.000 Okay, thanks for your call.

02:24:33.000 Thank you.

02:24:34.000 And let's take a call from Kurt in Texas.

02:24:36.000 Good afternoon, Kurt.

02:24:37.000 You're on the air.

02:24:38.000 Yes, sir.

02:24:39.000 I wanted to comment.

02:24:41.000 On an article I read yesterday in the paper about Alan Greenspan telling the baby boomers that they were going to have to find some other form of social security, that the social security system would be bust.

02:24:54.000 How dare they after these people have paid in for all these years and they send billions and billions of dollars overseas and they tell them that they're going to not have a That's a good way to live when they start to retire.

02:25:08.000 Absolutely.

02:25:08.000 Well, that's a good example of what happens when government handles your money.

02:25:14.000 I just think it's absolutely ridiculous. 0.95

02:25:17.000 Yes, it is. 0.99

02:25:18.000 It's absolutely ridiculous. 0.80

02:25:21.000 Alan Greenspan, the Fed and the CFR have to tell them, too. 0.54

02:25:26.000 Thanks for your call.

02:25:27.000 Okay, thank you.

02:25:29.000 Jeff, you're calling from New Orleans.

02:25:31.000 Good afternoon.

02:25:31.000 You're on the air.

02:25:32.000 Yes, I'd like to point out two things, one related to your guest and the other related to an earlier caller.

02:25:38.000 Right.

02:25:38.000 John in Ohio, if you would look up the Von Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact signed in September 39, you'd realize that Hitler was a Marxist, that the Socialist Workers' Party in Germany was as much a Marxist party and only used public-private partnerships, not direct government takeover, but they achieved the same thing that Stalin did.

02:25:58.000 And in that line, Let me point out to this William Kennedy, in the 1960s I had heard from some people inside the Catholic Church that the church had been infiltrated by Marxists even then, not just the Mariano Fathers and the That's right.

02:26:13.000 traditional social gospel people, but also outright communists who infiltrated the church in Spain and used Jesus as a justification for pushing Marxism in the Franco regime.

02:26:25.000 That's in liberation theology.

02:26:27.000 That's what that is all about.

02:26:29.000 Sure.

02:26:29.000 I wouldn't disagree with you about that at all.

02:26:31.000 That's right.

02:26:33.000 That's why I'm pointing this out to you, that the so-called anti-communists like myself are not out of the woods in the way that an earlier call has suggested, but we're actually working for the reestablishment of individualism and individual control over your life.

02:26:50.000 That's one of the reasons why the church is being attacked and all of this is being exposed, because both the Catholic church and the Muslims are the biggest anti-abortion promoters in the world.

02:27:01.000 And despite all the imagery...

02:27:04.000 They both advocate, do not kill your children and do not have abortions.

02:27:08.000 And that's one of the many reasons why the New World Order is trying to demonize both these sides and is trying to attack both of them.

02:27:16.000 And some of the Muslims have fallen for this with their killing of the children in Palestine. 1.00

02:27:20.000 That's right. 0.94

02:27:20.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but we've got to take a break. 0.94

02:27:23.000 Thanks for your call, okay?

02:27:26.000 Thank you.

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02:30:53.000 We continue 1-800-259-9231 1-800-259-9231 Michael Corbin here, sitting in for Alex Jones Who is in New York, covering the Republican National Convention I want to get you to check out his websites At www.infowars.com

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02:31:46.000 and of course you can order that as well and other videos and books that he has available on those websites or you can call toll free 888-253-3139 888-253-3139 and we're talking about the the new world order right now with my guest William Kennedy who is the author of Lucifer's Lodge welcome back Bill and appreciate you coming on the program today Thank you, Michael.

02:32:13.000 Before we take callers, I want to kind of expand on this because I was going to get to that, the idea behind the infiltration and the takeover of the church.

02:32:25.000 Talk a little bit about that.

02:32:26.000 How far back does that go?

02:32:27.000 It actually goes quite a ways.

02:32:29.000 Well, it's quite interesting.

02:32:30.000 Throughout the history of the Roman Catholic Church, there's always been heretical groups who tried to take it over and dominate it, you know, Gnostics and what have you.

02:32:41.000 The big thing now that we're looking at, and this is probably a post-World War II phenomenon, is that Leftists in various groups would want to control the Roman Catholic Church first of all because it's the most geographically expansive organization on earth.

02:33:02.000 It goes to more countries than the UN or the World Health Organization.

02:33:07.000 It's literally everywhere you want to be if you want to control and dominate other human beings.

02:33:15.000 Now, the trick is, rather than set up a counter-organization and organize it and expand it all over the globe, the trick is just to take over a pre-existing organization, which will give you a geographic presence and an ideological presence, and then just shift it the way that you want it to go.

02:33:37.000 Right, exactly.

02:33:39.000 And that's what we're seeing with the Roman Catholic Church.

02:33:42.000 It was infiltrated primarily by Luciferians and Freemasons around about 1962.

02:33:51.000 This was a big year.

02:33:52.000 Now, about 20 years after that, there was, you know, the Calvi thing that you were talking about earlier, the B2 Freemasonic banking scandal, which ties right into this New World Order agenda.

02:34:05.000 Yeah.

02:34:06.000 Now, essentially, what these globalists and New World Order people want to do is just, you know, usurp the Catholic Church, keep, you know, the physical structures and the symbols intact, but radically alter their meaning as a method to control the political and even personal lives of the membership.

02:34:29.000 Yeah.

02:34:29.000 You know, the thing is, is that, you know, the, the, this, this conspiracy Even goes as far back as the French Revolution, and that was to co-opt and take over the church.

02:34:40.000 I mean, that was their sworn enemy.

02:34:42.000 Because, you know, the Luciferians want to completely eradicate the traditional major religions around the planet.

02:34:50.000 And it's not just Christianity, but they want to eradicate all of it. 0.99

02:34:54.000 Because they want to homogenize everybody into this one vast ideology that is secular materialism.

02:35:03.000 Okay, being a Luciferian implies that you're a secular materialist.

02:35:11.000 That is the bottom line.

02:35:13.000 Well certainly, you replace the individual with God, which is actually a mimicking of Lucifer's Rebellion that you can read about in Isaiah 14.

02:35:23.000 That's what they're playing at.

02:35:25.000 You know, replacing God with human beings or dictators.

02:35:29.000 Right, and they turn the state, they elevate the state.

02:35:33.000 It's an inversion.

02:35:34.000 It's an inversion, right.

02:35:36.000 They elevate the state to the status of God.

02:35:39.000 The state can give rights and the state takes away rights.

02:35:42.000 Well, that is the farthest thing from the truth because the inalienable rights that our founding fathers wrote about in the Bill of Rights implies that our rights, our inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness No, it doesn't.

02:35:55.000 the creator himself or herself whatever but it comes from the creator period and that the the the idea behind that is is that the state has no authority to give rights or take away rights I know it doesn't and when you look at states that take on that role they're usually quite brutal like Stalin's regime or Pol Pot or Mao Tse-sung all of a sudden a large segment of the society is demonized and usually murdered Yeah, exactly.

02:36:25.000 Okay, let's take calls.

02:36:26.000 We've got Tom calling in from Illinois.

02:36:27.000 Good afternoon, Tom.

02:36:29.000 Good afternoon.

02:36:30.000 I like the program.

02:36:31.000 Thank you.

02:36:32.000 I just want to say that there's so much I'd like to say in the short amount of time I have to say it.

02:36:36.000 I used to be a Catholic, and I'm not here to bash the Catholic Church, Mr. Kennedy.

02:36:40.000 I just want to tell you That I agree with everything you're saying, but I would go a lot deeper than that.

02:36:44.000 I would say that Satan made his infiltration of the Catholic Church in 312 A.D.

02:36:48.000 with Constantine.

02:36:50.000 And I think that everything that's happening now is just trickled down, and this has all been planned by Satan.

02:36:54.000 everything that's happening in the world is.

02:36:56.000 And I think Satan's using a Catholic church because it is the largest institution of a religious organization. 0.92

02:37:03.000 And it's basically taken over the world.

02:37:07.000 And it's the best opportunity to do it is through the Catholic church because it is all over the world.

02:37:12.000 But I believe that all this molestation and things, I believe there is Satan as priests.

02:37:18.000 But along with all that, there is nowhere in the Bible that it says that a man cannot be married and serve the Lord.

02:37:24.000 Although it is in Paul, but it doesn't say he can't be married, and I don't know why the Catholic Church never let a man be married.

02:37:29.000 You go to any other church in the country that's not Catholic, that's Christian, and they could be married.

02:37:34.000 And I think a lot of that molestation took place because the priest had to be abstinent.

02:37:39.000 Well, I would have to take issue in There's no correlation between celibacy and pedophilia, because most pedophiles that are arrested by the police are married with children and are sexually active with their wives at the time of their arrest.

02:37:55.000 So I wish it were that black and white, but the...

02:37:58.000 You could argue more the case that marriage causes pedophilia. 0.68

02:38:01.000 Well, I understand what you're saying.

02:38:05.000 Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of Protestant pastors that have been caught with pedophilia.

02:38:10.000 I'm not saying it's going to cure it, but I think it might help in the fact that it's the large scale and it's not going to cure it.

02:38:16.000 But Mr. Kennedy, the one thing I do want to point across is that, and I'm not here to bash the Catholic Church, don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend anybody who's Catholic, but I used to be Catholic and a lot of the doctrines is man-made and not biblical-based.

02:38:30.000 My mother is 80 years old, and she's a long-time Catholic, and I asked her, I said, you point out to me in the Catholic Bible, the Catholic version of the Bible, where purgatory exists, where the mediator between Christ and God is, and there isn't any, there is Christ Jesus only.

02:38:45.000 And, you know, the point I would say is that Satan has made his way into anything that God or man has created on this earth, and he's turned anything good into bad.

02:38:53.000 And I believe that there's a lot of good Catholic priests out there, there's a lot of good Catholic people, but you're absolutely right.

02:38:59.000 The Catholic Church has been infiltrated by Sagan, but I'd go way back before the Masons came in. 1.00

02:39:03.000 Well, I should say that my book does have a history of this sort of thing from the Apostolic Age to our day.

02:39:11.000 You know, I didn't neglect what's happened in the past.

02:39:13.000 You'll have a complete history of Satanism and sexual abuse in the Catholic Church for two thousand years.

02:39:19.000 I did cover a lot of what you're speaking of.

02:39:21.000 Okay.

02:39:22.000 Okay, we've got to move along, Tom.

02:39:24.000 Thank you for your call, okay?

02:39:27.000 Okay.

02:39:28.000 Okay, bye.

02:39:28.000 Alright, bye.

02:39:30.000 Dick is calling from Colorado.

02:39:31.000 Good afternoon, Dick.

02:39:32.000 You're on the air.

02:39:34.000 Good, good, okay.

02:39:36.000 I have a couple of points to make.

02:39:38.000 In the previous caller made one of them, I was going to say that this Sexually deviant practices is not limited to the Catholic Church, obviously, and I can attest to that from a time when I was a kid, but I haven't heard any mention of homosexuality here.

02:39:59.000 The whole discussion has been centered on pedophilia and assaults on women.

02:40:05.000 What about the existence of homosexual Catholicism?

02:40:13.000 Well, I should say that in my research, and I cover this in my book, Lucifer's Lodge, there is less of a correlation, I discovered, between the gay rights community and the pedophile community.

02:40:28.000 And I'll give you two cases in point.

02:40:32.000 Father Bernard Lane and Father Paul Shanley were priests here in Boston who were active in the gay community.

02:40:39.000 And Shanley went on to be a founder of NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, while all of the gay activists in Boston, you know, patted him on the back while he was doing this.

02:40:51.000 So, a lot of what you're saying I would agree with, and it is also covered in the book.

02:40:56.000 There's a horrible problem of homosexuality in the Catholic Church, and it does spill over into pedophilia. 0.50

02:41:04.000 Yeah, I remember a comment in a newspaper article by a young neophyte at a Catholic seminary, and his comment was, if homosexuals were excluded from that seminary, there would be hardly anybody there. 0.84

02:41:26.000 There's a whole book called Goodbye Good Men, which covers a lot of this.

02:41:30.000 So I didn't get too much of it into my book, because another book does look at exactly what you're talking about.

02:41:36.000 Now, what my book does do, is it looks at some of these pedophile priests who are involved in overt Satanism, like Father Sean Fortune in Boston, who would molest children, and if their parents came and confronted him, he would threaten them with hexes.

02:41:53.000 He would say that their next child would be born crippled, that Satan would haunt them day and night.

02:42:00.000 And he used to take children to a haunted house, Loftus Hall, and they had a ritual chamber where he used to sexually abuse the children in rituals.

02:42:10.000 So that's more the focus of my book, more stories like Fortune.

02:42:14.000 And there's a lot of other material out there about the Seminary problem in the Catholic Church.

02:42:20.000 My book's just a different focus.

02:42:21.000 Dick, thanks for your call.

02:42:22.000 Appreciate it.

02:42:23.000 Okay, thank you.

02:42:24.000 Bye-bye.

02:42:25.000 Let's go to another call.

02:42:25.000 Bye-bye.

02:42:26.000 We've got Maggie calling in from Texas. 1.00

02:42:27.000 Good afternoon, Maggie.

02:42:28.000 You're on the air.

02:42:29.000 Hi, Maggie.

02:42:32.000 Hi.

02:42:32.000 I forgot what I was going to say.

02:42:33.000 Okay.

02:42:34.000 Mr. Kennedy, you mentioned the year 1962 as significant, and I seem to recall that there was a great ecumenical council held Around that year.

02:42:45.000 Vatican II.

02:42:46.000 The Second Vatican Council, yes.

02:42:48.000 Where was that held?

02:42:49.000 The Second Vatican Council was held in Rome and it was called by Pope John XXIII and it went from roughly 1962 to 1965.

02:43:02.000 Now the problem I'm talking about is that at the time of the council there was an enthronement ceremony in the Vatican of Lucifer Really?

02:43:13.000 In a Freemasonic type ceremony.

02:43:16.000 That's what I was referring to.

02:43:18.000 Wow, okay, okay.

02:43:19.000 During that time period, what I do recall very clearly was that shortly after that, the Mass was changed to English.

02:43:29.000 Yes, the Mass was changed into the vernacular in 1968, and that came about as a direct result of the Council we talked about.

02:43:36.000 Uh-huh, uh-huh.

02:43:37.000 Now it's interesting, I'm in touch with a Satanist fellow who Uh, we debate now and again.

02:43:43.000 And he told me that he looked at, uh, you know, films of the New Mass, and he said they resemble occult rituals very, very much.

02:43:52.000 You know, the Mass, they change the Mass quite a bit when they change it from the Latin into the vernacular.

02:43:58.000 But he said it mimics occult ceremonies, the New Mass, as we call it.

02:44:03.000 The New Mass.

02:44:04.000 Uh, yeah.

02:44:05.000 Okay, and the other thing I recall is that they gave up the practice of fish on Fridays.

02:44:12.000 Well, that's a little bit different.

02:44:14.000 It wasn't that you had to eat fish on Fridays.

02:44:16.000 Well, you didn't.

02:44:17.000 You couldn't eat meat on Fridays.

02:44:18.000 You didn't eat meat out of respect for the Trinity.

02:44:21.000 I had many Catholic friends.

02:44:23.000 on Friday, which a lot of Catholics still practice.

02:44:27.000 It's not mandatory, but it's still widely practiced.

02:44:29.000 Yeah, I remember I had many Catholic friends.

02:44:32.000 I grew up with many Catholic friends, and it was somewhat after that time that I noticed interest in the religion dropping off.

02:44:41.000 Well, yeah, there's a direct correlation between when they made all these changes in the church and a decline in attendance.

02:44:48.000 And, of course, that's the whole idea behind all of this, is to divide and conquer, to get people away from any religion, regardless of what denomination it is. 0.80

02:44:57.000 It's about rooting people in materialism and living in the here and now, and not acknowledging our composite nature of a physical nature and a spiritual nature.

02:45:07.000 Megan, we've got to move along.

02:45:08.000 Thank you very much for your call.

02:45:10.000 Thank you.

02:45:11.000 And let's talk to Irving in Colorado.

02:45:13.000 Good afternoon Irving, you're on the air.

02:45:15.000 Yes, how are you doing?

02:45:16.000 Good, how are you doing?

02:45:17.000 Thank you for this opportunity.

02:45:18.000 I wanted to ask William Kennedy in his book if he addressed the incident in Watertown, Massachusetts.

02:45:26.000 A warehouse burned down in about 1978 or 1979 in Watertown, Mass., just outside of Boston.

02:45:36.000 In the aftermath of the fire, firemen, police, onlookers found photos and filmed 8mm of prominent people in Boston, Police chiefs, fire chiefs, retired people.

02:45:53.000 They had an arson for hire, a murder for hire.

02:45:55.000 They had tapes of... I did hear about that fire, but I haven't confirmed the existence of these tapes.

02:46:05.000 And these films you're talking about?

02:46:07.000 I have talked to people who claim to have seen them though.

02:46:10.000 Right.

02:46:10.000 This is a big popular myth around Massachusetts, by the way, where I'm from.

02:46:14.000 I don't think it's a myth.

02:46:16.000 I have a buddy who was on the police force at the time.

02:46:18.000 Oh, I'm not denying it.

02:46:19.000 I'm just saying I haven't seen any of the materials myself.

02:46:22.000 Right.

02:46:22.000 But it ran across the board from Baptist priest to Catholic priest, police chief, lawyers, judges.

02:46:33.000 Dentists, doctors, and what it reminded me of was Eyes Wide Shut or Secret Society.

02:46:39.000 Well, there's a lot of that in my book.

02:46:43.000 I do explore the Secret Society element in the priest abuse case.

02:46:49.000 The Watertown fire, though, that's one of those things.

02:46:52.000 I'm actually in Massachusetts now, and that's one of those things that I didn't write about because I didn't have any material evidence.

02:47:00.000 Yeah, I was living in Boston and working in Arsenal Street at UPS at the time.

02:47:04.000 So, yeah, it was on my street.

02:47:06.000 You were right there.

02:47:08.000 Right, it was on my radar at the time and it was just totally dropped off the radar.

02:47:12.000 If you visit Boston Globe or Boston Herald now, there's nothing on it.

02:47:17.000 That's a really good point you just brought up because the stories in my book Now, they are from mainstream media sources, like the Boston Globe or the Associated Press, and they certainly do talk about pedophilia and satanic ceremonies, but, you know, it's usually one article and then it just, you know, disappears into oblivion.

02:47:39.000 And the example I can give you is Martin Sr.

02:47:41.000 Frederick Ryan, who was the Vice Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Boston, tattooed a boy with a devil figure, And took him down to Rhode Island and sexually abused him in some ritual over a weekend.

02:47:54.000 Now that was in the newspaper for about two days and you haven't heard a word about it since.

02:47:58.000 Right.

02:47:59.000 So these stories, they do get reported, but for reasons I can't fully explain, they quickly disappear.

02:48:05.000 Just one more thing, when Geraldine Ferrara ran for whatever she was trying to run for, she was totally put down because her husband was a porn kingpin on the East Coast. 1.00

02:48:16.000 I wasn't aware of that.

02:48:17.000 Okay, Irving, we've got to move along, we've got to take a break.

02:48:19.000 Thanks for your call.

02:48:20.000 Alright, William, we'll come back, we'll take some more calls and we'll go on, we'll wrap up the program, okay?

02:48:27.000 And William Kennedy is my guest, our number 1-800-259-9231.

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02:52:16.000 And tonight on my program, we're going to be going into depth concerning the totalization program that they want to slam through, making it possible for illegal immigrants to take Social Security money away from you. 0.96

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02:52:44.000 Let's get back to my guest, William Kennedy, author of Lucifer's Lodge, and Bill, I want to try to get to the rest of these calls, and I want to have you give out information about how people can get the book.

02:52:53.000 Sure.

02:52:54.000 Let's take Charlie from South Carolina.

02:52:56.000 Good afternoon, Charlie, you're on the air.

02:52:58.000 Yeah, how are you?

02:52:58.000 Good, how are you?

02:52:59.000 I have a question for Mr. Kennedy.

02:53:01.000 Sure.

02:53:02.000 When did the 5013C come into being?

02:53:05.000 The 5013C?

02:53:06.000 What is that, sir?

02:53:07.000 That's a non-profit.

02:53:09.000 Yeah.

02:53:10.000 For the clergy.

02:53:12.000 Oh, I'm not familiar with tax exemption for clerics.

02:53:16.000 I'm not an attorney.

02:53:18.000 Well, anyway, I think that's got a lot to do with what's going on.

02:53:21.000 They shut up all the good religious people by doing that. 0.90

02:53:25.000 Yeah, well, that's how they control them. 0.87

02:53:28.000 Yeah.

02:53:28.000 That's got a lot to do with what's going on.

02:53:30.000 That's 501-3C.

02:53:30.000 That's it.

02:53:31.000 Thanks, Charlie, for your call.

02:53:34.000 Let's take Carol in Arkansas. 1.00

02:53:36.000 Good afternoon, Carol.

02:53:36.000 You're on the air.

02:53:37.000 Hello.

02:53:38.000 Hi.

02:53:38.000 Mr. Kennedy, what is the number to get your book?

02:53:42.000 Um, there is not a number.

02:53:43.000 Uh, you can order it online at luciferswatch.net.

02:53:47.000 But if we're not online, then what?

02:53:49.000 Uh, well, there's, uh, you could get it at, um, any Barnes and Noble bookstore.

02:53:55.000 Okay.

02:53:55.000 It can be ordered then?

02:53:56.000 It can be ordered at any Barnes and Noble bookstore.

02:53:59.000 There's one bookstore.

02:54:00.000 I can give you a number for seven stars in Cambridge, Mass.

02:54:04.000 It's 617-547-1317. 617-547-1317.

02:54:13.000 And they carry it and can ship it anywhere around the world.

02:54:17.000 Very good.

02:54:17.000 I'm anxious to read your book.

02:54:20.000 Very good.

02:54:21.000 Addressing some of these issues, I don't know if you are familiar with Dr. Alexander Hislop's book, The Two Babylon or The Worship of Nimrod, which was originally published in 1853, but that book is still available and it will show you how

02:54:38.000 Pagan worship came into the worship of both the Catholic Church and then to some degree not so much into the Christian Church because at that time they were using what we now call the Authorized Version or the Text of the Reception.

02:54:57.000 I will have to take a look at that book, yeah.

02:54:59.000 Well, it has a lot of the symbolisms in it that also are used by the Masonic Order Oh sure, it's all similar.

02:55:06.000 These things are all similar.

02:55:08.000 You will see Osiris, Isis, Horus, Baphomet, all of that you will see goes back.

02:55:15.000 And you see Constantine, known in his time as the Pagan Wolf, realized that the Christian group was a growing phenomenon, a powerful group of people that he had to control, and he could harness that by seemingly Going along with them, and actually he had a man named Origen of that period. 0.75

02:55:38.000 I mentioned Origen in my book.

02:55:41.000 Okay, well as you then know, that was the period of the Gnostics and the Gnostic Gospels, which the Apostle Paul talked about.

02:55:47.000 Okay, Carol, we're going to have to go.

02:55:48.000 We're up against the clock here, so I'm sorry.

02:55:51.000 Thank you for your call.

02:55:52.000 Bill, give out the information real quick.

02:55:54.000 You can get my book online at luciferswatch.net.

02:55:59.000 Or at Amazon.com.

02:56:00.000 Okay, very good.

02:56:01.000 And thank you for being on the program.

02:56:03.000 Thank you.

02:56:03.000 And we'll be in touch, okay?

02:56:04.000 Very good.

02:56:05.000 Alright, and sorry we couldn't take the rest of the callers, but I will be here tomorrow, same time, 10 o'clock Mountain, 12 Eastern.

02:56:13.000 And I'll be filling in for Alex tomorrow and Wednesday.

02:56:16.000 And again, check out my website, www.4acloserlook, the number 4, acloserlook.com.

02:56:22.000 For Alex Jones, thank you for joining us, and we will see you tomorrow.

02:56:26.000 Bye bye.

Alex Jones Show - August 30, 2004

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