Alex Jones Show - 20040827_Fri_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:34.000 This will be the last live broadcast I do before you hear me calling in with our great fill-in host.

00:00:41.000 Next week, when I'm in the Big Rotten Apple, there inside the Empire State, where the Imperial Overlords will be meeting, training us how to be good little slaves in this... Well, what have some called it?

00:00:54.000 Uh, Skull & Bones Coronation Part 2!

00:00:58.000 And I will be there!

00:01:00.000 In fact, I'll be there Monday morning reporting on what happens Sunday, because between a quarter million and a half million protesters are scheduled, or scheduled as they say, to march on the controlled area that they've been told they're allowed to march on, and then the organizers are planning to lead the march into Central Park, where they've had literally thousands of demonstrations over the years, but they're now told they're not allowed to because of the grass.

00:01:30.000 They're going to go ahead and march into there, and the police and Lord Bloomberg is saying they're going to go after them.

00:01:38.000 And they've got the sound, the weapons, the rubber bullets, all the goodies ready.

00:01:43.000 Big standoff.

00:01:45.000 I'm going to be getting into New York Saturday night, and I will be there covering the march, led by Lord Michael Moore, and of course, Bohemian Grove member Danny Glover, and many, many others.

00:02:01.000 So you do not want to miss

00:02:05.000 Monday's show we'll have Michael Corbin who's a very talented intelligent gentleman doing the first three days of the broadcast and then We got Harry Brown and Erskine coming up on Thursday and Friday and Paul Watson will be here every day for 30 minutes to an hour with all the other global news and information as a commentator and as he normally does once a week with us Analyzing what's going on so You do not want to miss

00:02:36.000 uh... what's coming up next week.

00:02:39.000 Alex Jones will be discussing, these are the notes my producer gave me, RFID loyalty cards and more with Caspian's Kathryn Albrecht who is leading the battle against spy chips.

00:02:50.000 I will also uh... be talking with Christopher Pyle about the police intelligence squads, a former U.S.

00:02:58.000 Army intelligence agent who blew the whistle on the secret program and nationally televised Senate hearings on the Vietnam air activities In the 1970s.

00:03:08.000 So he'll be joining us in the third hour.

00:03:11.000 So two great guests today.

00:03:13.000 And as usual, we're going to have wide open phones.

00:03:16.000 Bush's so-called intelligence reform, of course, was doubling the funding again and getting Homeland Security.

00:03:22.000 Now he's going to use executive order to bring a new CIA agency over all the other intelligence and security agencies that will be run by the White House outside Congress's control.

00:03:34.000 And there's a 30,000-man Hercules team, 10,000 of them federal, in New York with the black ski masks, the black helmets, and the rest of it.

00:03:44.000 Not just the 30,000-man Hercules team.

00:03:46.000 There'll be another 30,000 police.

00:03:49.000 10,000 police just around Madison Square Garden.

00:03:53.000 So, again, I'm going to be in the middle of this.

00:03:55.000 They're going to have M60s trained on the crowds with live ammo, giant sound cannons, armored vehicles.

00:04:02.000 I was talking to One of my associates in New York last night, he said they're flying huge black helicopters in V-attack formations.

00:04:12.000 Sounds like a orgy of evidence exposing the criminality of the New World Order. 0.79

00:04:18.000 None of this has anything to do with terrorism.

00:04:22.000 No amount of security would stop terrorism.

00:04:26.000 It's real simple.

00:04:27.000 Terrorists are driving a truck bomb along.

00:04:29.000 God forbid that we're real terrorists actually planting something and they just drive up and detonate it. 0.70

00:04:34.000 No, this is all about training you how to be a slave.

00:04:38.000 Training you how to be a minion.

00:04:41.000 A big illustration of the way things are now here in the new Rome.

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00:07:58.000 Big Brother.

00:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:24.000 Monday through Friday.

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00:08:33.000 It is Friday, the 27th day of August 2004.

00:08:39.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:08:42.000 For those that are just now joining us, we have a little segment before this one.

00:08:45.000 I got into Kathryn Albrecht of Caspian.

00:08:48.000 We'll be joining us to talk about the latest RFID tracker chip developments.

00:08:54.000 Also, we'll get into the recent article, Is Big Brother Watching You?

00:08:57.000 Company Says Microchip in Uniform Aids Laundry Not Snooping.

00:09:01.000 And later we'll discuss police intelligence squads with Christopher Pyle, a former U.S.

00:09:05.000 Army intelligence agent, who blew the whistle on the secret program to spy on Americans by the Pentagon in nationally televised Senate hearings on the Vietnam era activities of the government in the 1970s.

00:09:18.000 And a related article is Sybil Libertarians decry police intelligence squads.

00:09:25.000 How about citizens do?

00:09:27.000 It's always civil libertarians do.

00:09:30.000 In the meantime, your calls will plunge into the news.

00:09:34.000 White House drafts intel reform order!

00:09:38.000 Their orders will be outside Congress's control.

00:09:42.000 The Supreme Directorate to lead our lives and keep us safe and to fight crime.

00:09:47.000 Terror is crime.

00:09:49.000 The White House has drafted executive orders aimed at implementing the September 11th Commission's recommendations, which he appointed for a more powerful intelligence director and a new National Counterterrorism Center.

00:10:00.000 Bush Administration and Congressional officials said Thursday, drafts of executive orders are circulating among an interagency group for approval.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, don't need Congress to do it, just have the Supreme Leader do it. 0.56

00:10:13.000 One of the officials of the White House is floating three proposals and asking for feedback by Friday.

00:10:18.000 Oh, by Friday, how nice of them.

00:10:20.000 The orders would enhance the powers of the government's intelligence chief and create a national intelligence officer.

00:10:28.000 By the way, this came out yesterday, so they were given until today.

00:10:30.000 How nice of the government.

00:10:32.000 Oh boy, really conferring with people from a national counter-terrorism center, putting that office under the new intelligence director, and giving the director the power to decide who runs it.

00:10:41.000 Improve information sharing with the directors aimed at facilitating the exchange of information among intelligence agencies.

00:10:47.000 One congressional official said in the executive order being circulated would give the CIA director the title of National Intelligence Director.

00:10:53.000 So see the CIA has been expanded.

00:10:55.000 A position recommended by the 9-11 Commission.

00:10:58.000 The CIA director currently oversees all 15 of the nation's intelligence agencies.

00:11:05.000 Boy, isn't that just special.

00:11:10.000 They've already, since 9-11, they've already had the CIA operating in all the big cities.

00:11:15.000 And they take control.

00:11:16.000 Most of your big police chiefs are CIA officers.

00:11:19.000 A lot of your big news editors are CIA.

00:11:22.000 That's come out in congressional reports.

00:11:24.000 But now they're going to set up offices openly in the National Guard buildings in your town.

00:11:30.000 And they're going to move to have your city hall under their control.

00:11:35.000 And the CIA will be operating, quote, fighting terror and crime.

00:11:40.000 These are the guys that break in houses and kill people and snatch and grab and torture and... It's gonna be a lot of fun.

00:11:47.000 A lot of freedom.

00:11:48.000 You know, Russia has this.

00:11:49.000 China has this.

00:11:51.000 Cuba has this.

00:11:52.000 Hitler had this. 0.88

00:11:54.000 Mao Zedong had this.

00:11:55.000 China has this today.

00:11:56.000 Why can't we have it?

00:11:58.000 You know, it keeps them safe, doesn't it?

00:12:00.000 I'm all for it.

00:12:01.000 I think Congress has given over control over trade and over regulation of the schools and over energy and almost everything to the President and the international boards.

00:12:11.000 And I think this is great to give over control of any oversight over intelligence.

00:12:16.000 It's always a good idea when a giant Praetorian guard to control the population for the Emperor is put into total control with no oversight.

00:12:26.000 That's always a really good sign And I am all for it.

00:12:32.000 I don't know about you, but this is out of the Christian Science Monitor.

00:12:36.000 An armored, clad, big, rotten apple.

00:12:39.000 Of course, they said big apple.

00:12:42.000 And it says street barricades are going up.

00:12:44.000 Heavily armed anti-terrorist squads are making unannounced rounds.

00:12:49.000 Bomb sniffing dogs are inspecting cars and trucks.

00:12:51.000 Coast Guard boats are patrolling the Hudson.

00:12:53.000 And new high-tech helicopters are hovering in the sky.

00:12:56.000 Just huge black ones in V formations over Manhattan. 0.93

00:13:00.000 That's not to mention the thousands of officers who've been taken off their desk jobs to ride the rails underground.

00:13:07.000 And the Republican Convention doesn't even start until Monday!

00:13:09.000 In the ramp-up to what officials are calling the most intense and comprehensive security effort ever to protect the National Political Convention, the New York Police Department, in conjunction with U.S.

00:13:20.000 Secret Service, state and other federal agencies, are putting on a show of force designed to give any Al-Cieda operative pause.

00:13:29.000 Same Al-Cieda that's able to order NORAD to stand down, or able to plant bombs in Building 7 and demolish it. 0.99

00:13:35.000 Very powerful Al-Cieda.

00:13:38.000 While there's been no new intelligence indicating that a terrorist threat is imminent, the Joint Terrorism Task Force continues to comb through the hundreds of Al-Qaeda files and computer disks discovered last month in Britain and Pakistan that indicated New York financial institutions have been Thoroughly cased.

00:13:58.000 Wait a minute, the government now admits that was four years old, but ah, who cares about facts?

00:14:02.000 They are also analyzing all new intelligence that comes in 24-7.

00:14:09.000 So, isn't that nice?

00:14:10.000 Indeed, Mayor Bloomberg is urging people to come and enjoy the city, despite the convention and more than a hundred planned protests.

00:14:18.000 They'll say nothing.

00:14:20.000 Are the ones promised by various anarchists that, i.e., hired government thugs publicly.

00:14:25.000 I have video of the police protecting them, funding them, lavishly supplying them with housing in Seattle and other areas.

00:14:33.000 And it goes on and on and on and on.

00:14:37.000 So I will be there covering it for you.

00:14:41.000 Who knows, I might call in ten minutes every hour, I might call in for a full hour, I might call in for five minutes if nothing's going on, but I'll be calling in all five days next week.

00:14:51.000 They're in the big fat rotten apple.

00:14:55.000 Continuing, the Empire State, properly named. 0.93

00:14:57.000 I'm not attacking your state, I'm attacking your government, one of the most corrupt around.

00:15:01.000 Also, continuing with this information, We have a potential terrorist.

00:15:08.000 Terrorism spawns talk of U.S.

00:15:11.000 national ID card.

00:15:14.000 This from CBN News.

00:15:16.000 A national ID card here in America?

00:15:19.000 It could happen in the post 9-11 world.

00:15:21.000 The idea is one of the recommendations from the 9-11 appointed commission by Lord Bush, and it has now come up for debate in the Senate.

00:15:29.000 Keeping Congress busy during its summer recess, 9-11 commissions further expanded a recommendation for their final report, the possibility of a national identification card for U.S.

00:15:39.000 citizens.

00:15:40.000 Now let's stop right there.

00:15:44.000 This article just came out, and it's pure plagiarism, and I read almost the exact article in the Associated Press.

00:15:50.000 It's funny.

00:15:51.000 But, as they say, the report stopped short of endorsing an actual ID card, but acknowledged they could effectively serve as a counterterrorism tool, making it harder for terrorists to make their true, amass their true identities.

00:16:02.000 Well, the actual studies show that's not true, but look.

00:16:05.000 This is the deal, okay?

00:16:10.000 A year ago it was 42 states.

00:16:12.000 Now, last time I saw, 48 states have put in thumb scans, face scans, or retina scans.

00:16:19.000 They admittedly are under federal mandate and federal specifications.

00:16:24.000 It is a national ID card.

00:16:28.000 It's here with us now.

00:16:33.000 No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

00:16:35.000 This is the reality.

00:16:39.000 We have a national ID card.

00:16:43.000 And the Feds and States have pressured the grocery stores, the rest of it, it's not just cigarettes or beer, but it's Sudafed.

00:16:51.000 It's, you've got to see your card.

00:16:53.000 I mean, I've seen them card, literally, 78-year-old women buying Sudafed.

00:16:58.000 Carding 65-year-old men buying a six-pack of Miller Lite. 0.99

00:17:03.000 Happened at Lord Limbaugh.

00:17:06.000 And when they come in with a new national sales tax, I know I keep talking about this, but it's important.

00:17:11.000 That's the mechanism where you'll have to swipe your driver's license.

00:17:14.000 It's going to be in the federal database.

00:17:16.000 It already is.

00:17:17.000 And then they will decide, you know, if you only make $15,000 a year, no sales tax.

00:17:20.000 If you make $25,000 a year, moderate sales tax.

00:17:21.000 tax, you make $25,000 a year.

00:17:24.000 Moderate sales tax, if you make $500,000 a year, we're talking about a 25% to 30% sales tax.

00:17:30.000 And that's going to be on top of the income tax.

00:17:33.000 The neocons say they're going to get rid of the income tax.

00:17:35.000 Bush has been announcing that.

00:17:36.000 But no, they're going to keep FICA and the Social Security stuff in there.

00:17:39.000 So that'll be about 7 to 9 percent.

00:17:42.000 Then once they get the sales tax in, they admittedly are going to ratchet that up to about 15 percent.

00:17:45.000 So they'll have a 15 percent income tax to start.

00:17:48.000 Then over here you'll also have your Your sales tax.

00:17:52.000 It'll bring federal control into every business.

00:17:54.000 Track and trace what you buy and do.

00:17:55.000 And then they can start taxing you and tracking you.

00:17:57.000 Oh, you've bought too much.

00:17:59.000 Too many fattening foods.

00:18:00.000 Too many beef steaks.

00:18:02.000 Too many chocolate ice creams and fried pies.

00:18:06.000 Too much of this.

00:18:07.000 So you're going to get a certain rating for your insurance.

00:18:09.000 This is all admitted.

00:18:10.000 Department of Agriculture has said this.

00:18:12.000 Department of Health and Human Services as well.

00:18:14.000 You'll be taxed accordingly.

00:18:16.000 Because, you know, you're allowed to buy some ice cream and some beer and some cigarettes or some chewing tobacco or maybe one or two cigars a month, but they're going to track all that.

00:18:23.000 It's got to be fair.

00:18:24.000 You know, we're all socialized now with these HMOs and this has all got to be tracked. 0.57

00:18:28.000 And so, they've got to have the National ID card.

00:18:32.000 They've already got it in place.

00:18:33.000 Now they've just got to announce it to you.

00:18:37.000 And make it the law that you have to have this when you buy and sell.

00:18:40.000 So that's all that's happening now.

00:18:41.000 So, again, I was a kook five, six years ago when I told you you would have a National ID card.

00:18:47.000 It was all planned.

00:18:48.000 I was just reading the federal documents.

00:18:50.000 And here we are.

00:18:51.000 Yesterday we started the show with double tolls if you don't have a tracker chip in your car.

00:18:55.000 So everybody's going to get the toll tracker chip.

00:18:58.000 Not to mention... Oh!

00:18:59.000 Oh! 0.60

00:18:59.000 Gotta tell a story. 0.60

00:18:59.000 Oh! 0.60

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00:19:02.000 I was going to forget about this.

00:19:05.000 My chihuahuas... I have a little wrought iron gate to get in the backyard.

00:19:09.000 They go through it.

00:19:10.000 About a year ago, I put up plastic mesh in between it and put the little plastic ties and tied it together.

00:19:16.000 Well, that kind of broke down and got old.

00:19:18.000 So I went into Home Depot last night and got there about, I don't know, about 10.30.

00:19:23.000 There were hundreds of customers in there.

00:19:27.000 But wait until you hear what happened.

00:19:29.000 I talked about this yesterday and I said, soon there'll be no checkers at all.

00:19:35.000 It'll be nothing but self-serve.

00:19:39.000 Well, guess what I discovered?

00:19:41.000 About a mile from my house.

00:19:43.000 Guess what?

00:19:45.000 We had Demi Morrow on and she went to get a tan and said, you got a thumb scan, you know? 0.57

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00:23:57.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.

00:24:22.000 Danny and Rodney and Robert and Jim and everybody, your calls are coming up at 1-800-259-9231.

00:24:30.000 But talking about coming face-to-face with the New World Order, again, I talked about this yesterday. 0.51

00:24:39.000 They have these big conventions where they RFID, telemetrics, industries meet with thousands of people.

00:24:46.000 They have the big meetings of people that work for state and county and federal highway departments and they meet and they put out website information and documents and plans and that's how I knew that you'd be thumb scanning at the grocery store and they were going to rip out all the checkout lanes and put in self-serve eight years ago.

00:25:06.000 That's how I knew they'd give you a national ID card.

00:25:08.000 That's how I knew to go to even the 7-Eleven you'd have the thumb scanner.

00:25:12.000 They try to pressure you.

00:25:15.000 And again, here's the plan.

00:25:17.000 Put in three self-checkouts, get you used to it, put in three more, three more, three more, until you go to Walmart, you go to Home Depot, you go anywhere, and there's nobody there.

00:25:27.000 And last night, you know, I said up and down, I'll never use one of these things.

00:25:32.000 And last night I go to the Home Depot by my house, big one, walk in, 1030 at night, buy the stuff I needed, walk up to the front, And there's just dozens and dozens of people lined up at the self-checkout lanes.

00:25:47.000 But they probably got about, I don't know, ten, twelve, I didn't count them up, self-checkouts, one or two service checkouts now.

00:25:55.000 They're down to those.

00:25:57.000 And there were all these people trying to check out, and there was no one there.

00:26:03.000 And all of a sudden, three or four, no, four Home Depot employees walk over and go, Alex Jones, we're fans, how you doing?

00:26:09.000 Oh, you're going to have to use the self-checkout, we've heard you talk about it.

00:26:12.000 And I said, is it usually like this?

00:26:14.000 And they go, yeah, a lot of the time.

00:26:16.000 A couple days a week, especially at night, there'll be nobody here.

00:26:20.000 And I said, well, I refuse to use one of these.

00:26:24.000 And I made them go get a manager.

00:26:25.000 I made them check me out the old-fashioned way, and you should do that. 0.98

00:26:30.000 That human exchange of goods and services is just incredible.

00:26:35.000 So, yeah, when I get back from New York, I'm going to go in there at 10 o'clock at night, With a little video camera and I'm just going to walk by and just show all these people checking out and no one there to give them service.

00:26:50.000 You know, why does that matter?

00:26:51.000 It's just the future, Alex.

00:26:53.000 I was talking to a manager and he goes, yeah, statistics actually show, we've talked about this in meetings, that these self-checkouts take longer.

00:27:00.000 They take forever.

00:27:00.000 Because they do.

00:27:01.000 It's watching the people.

00:27:03.000 And a lot of people don't even like to use them.

00:27:07.000 Because, yeah, I'll go in these places when there's two lines that have service, there'll be ten, fifteen people behind each one, and one or two people at each of the self-checkouts.

00:27:13.000 People don't like these, but he said that we're just forcing them onto them.

00:27:19.000 And so here I am with all these employees around me, every one of them a fan.

00:27:23.000 Manager comes out, I don't want to get him in trouble, but he's a fan.

00:27:26.000 And we're just sitting there talking about how no one likes this.

00:27:30.000 But the corporation is doing.

00:27:34.000 Well, hey, I'll save a few cents on a 2x4 if I do that.

00:27:37.000 No you won't.

00:27:38.000 You'll just lose service and the whole industry will lose service.

00:27:41.000 That's how the economy works.

00:27:42.000 You get the level of service you demand across industry standards.

00:27:46.000 They're just lowering standards.

00:27:48.000 That's not how economies work.

00:27:52.000 Alright, but so, Debbie Morrow was on two days ago from New Millennium Concepts, one of our sponsors for the big Berkey water filters.

00:28:02.000 And she lives up in the suburb of Dallas.

00:28:04.000 She bought 10 tans.

00:28:06.000 Local tanning salon goes into tan.

00:28:09.000 And it's total point blank.

00:28:12.000 Well, you got a thumb scan.

00:28:13.000 And she argued and said no.

00:28:14.000 And he said, fine, you got to show your ID every time.

00:28:16.000 And we call the place to have on one of their people. 0.98

00:28:18.000 They refuse.

00:28:19.000 We call the management.

00:28:20.000 They refuse.

00:28:20.000 We randomly call them up.

00:28:21.000 They won't talk about it.

00:28:24.000 It's going in everywhere.

00:28:26.000 And in Arlington, by Dallas, and in areas of Denver, the police have told them, I have the news articles going back four years, almost four years, they said, oh, we're going to make the businesses do this.

00:28:36.000 I don't want to get off into this all day, I've got a bunch of other news, but they're announcing national ID cards, and maybe they're needed, CBN says maybe it's Christian.

00:28:46.000 You know, maybe it's a good thing, keep us safe from those evil Muslims. 1.00

00:28:51.000 Al-Cieda is going to get us. 1.00

00:28:54.000 And V formations of black helicopters in New York and sound guns and National Guard and State Guard being turned into anti-terrorism forces and quote for civil disobedience and unrest.

00:29:05.000 I mean, they're gearing up for us like we're going to do something!

00:29:09.000 Government all the while expanding its control and power, claiming its godhood over us. 0.98

00:29:15.000 It's disgusting!

00:29:17.000 We'll get back, we'll go to these phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.

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00:32:58.000 I've had a lot of requests for those that aren't on the internet to replay the audio of this video of a little spoof that was done.

00:33:22.000 What happens when you call the order of peach?

00:33:25.000 So what we'll do is we'll take some calls and play that in a few minutes.

00:33:29.000 But really it's not a spoof, this is almost what's happening.

00:33:32.000 So we'll play that one more time.

00:33:34.000 I just can't help it.

00:33:36.000 But let's go to your calls quickly.

00:33:38.000 Callers, have your questions, your comments, your statements ready.

00:33:41.000 And I'm going to move to the next person.

00:33:42.000 It's Friday.

00:33:42.000 We've got two guests coming up.

00:33:44.000 I want to give everybody a chance to talk.

00:33:46.000 Danny in Tennessee, welcome to the Airwaves.

00:33:49.000 Hello, my friend.

00:33:50.000 Hello.

00:33:51.000 Hey, I've got a quick success story for you.

00:33:54.000 I've been talking to my neighbor about the New World Order for probably about six or seven months now.

00:34:00.000 And just a totally brainwashed neocon, and he had told me I needed to be arrested and put in camps, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:07.000 And I'd showed him Operation Northwood, and, you know, he had said it was fake, that it was a conspiracy theorist thing, and I finally talked him into writing his congressman and getting a copy of it under the Freedom of Information Act.

00:34:20.000 So when I came home from work last night, the guy was waiting for me, and I was like, oh no, you know, what's gonna happen?

00:34:25.000 And he was almost in tears.

00:34:27.000 He'd got his copy and he had read it.

00:34:29.000 So he come in and we started talking and I logged on to Prison Planet TV and we watched American Dictators together and it just totally waked the guy up and changed his life and I just wanted to call and let you know it was a great, great film.

00:34:48.000 Well what you're doing is great, Danny, and for those that just joined us and don't know what Operation Northwoods is, why don't you tell them?

00:34:55.000 Operation Northwood is basically, I guess you could almost call it the official government plan to carry out 9-11.

00:35:03.000 It's a plan drawn up by the Joint Chiefs of Staff back when Kennedy was President to hijack airplanes, blow up buildings, blow up civilian airliners, and blame it on Cuba as a pretext for war.

00:35:17.000 And it's just, it's a totally sickening document.

00:35:20.000 And by the way, some people read it and go, well, wait a minute, it says, hijack jets by remote control, crash them, but it doesn't say kill people.

00:35:27.000 No, it says they're going to have fake lists of passengers, military people, CIA, they're going to stage their deaths, have a massive sheep dipping, this is where they take a special forces person and then stage their death. 0.60

00:35:39.000 Thousands do this every few years, folks.

00:35:42.000 I even know sheep dip people. 0.98

00:35:44.000 And that's the military term.

00:35:46.000 And so they go, well, we'll get sheep dipping done while we're at it.

00:35:49.000 Claim hundreds die when these things are shot down.

00:35:53.000 So we'll have a jet, stage them getting on, say in Panama, have it take off, blow it up, have another drone jet aircraft blown up over the sea.

00:36:03.000 Then it says we can bomb D.C., blame it on enemies, have sniper attacks, and it does say shoot citizens, then blame it on people, even discusses how to frame Patsy's.

00:36:12.000 Then it says have U.S. 0.98

00:36:13.000 Army But use Cubans, Cuban-Americans dressed up in Cuban outfits, attack the Marines, kill them, mortar them, blow up ammo dumps. 1.00

00:36:24.000 It describes it all. 0.99

00:36:26.000 And they'll give an example of banking killing or really killing.

00:36:30.000 And this got green-lighted all the way up to Kennedy, who said no.

00:36:34.000 Then he went from being a hawk to trying to abolish the CIA.

00:36:38.000 He gave speeches about an evil group trying to take over.

00:36:41.000 Told the Russians, you better back off. 1.00

00:36:42.000 There's about to be a coup.

00:36:44.000 That's public.

00:36:45.000 The Russians did back off, by the way. 0.75

00:36:46.000 Then they went ahead and killed Kennedy.

00:36:48.000 The globalists did.

00:36:49.000 But does your friend just thought we were just making this up?

00:36:52.000 Yeah, he thought... Well, when I first showed him Operation Northwoods, he... I think... I believe I showed it to him on InfoWars.

00:36:59.000 And he said, oh, that's just... You know, that guy's a kook. 1.00

00:37:02.000 He made it up.

00:37:02.000 And I said, hey, you know, this...

00:37:04.000 This kook predicted 9-11, you know, you better listen to what he's saying. 1.00

00:37:08.000 If Alex says something, it's totally documented, you know, he just doesn't make stuff up, but... There's so many people that associate conspiracy theory with Bigfoot, you know, it's... Two macabres, yeah.

00:37:20.000 Right, I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous.

00:37:23.000 But it took, you know, I've just been working on this guy forever and ever and ever. 0.85

00:37:28.000 And, uh, you know, American dictators just put the guy in tears.

00:37:31.000 Well, you know, I want to thank that gentleman.

00:37:33.000 It's one thing to scoff and say we're liars.

00:37:36.000 You can do that.

00:37:36.000 But please check out what we're saying.

00:37:38.000 At least be honest.

00:37:39.000 Because if there's a 1% chance we're right, you better check it out.

00:37:43.000 And when you check it out, you'll find out that we're right.

00:37:45.000 And then it's up to you to do something.

00:37:46.000 Danny, good job.

00:37:47.000 Hey, no problem.

00:37:49.000 Just trying to hopefully save the country.

00:37:52.000 So you liked the new film, American Dictators?

00:37:54.000 Oh, I loved it.

00:37:55.000 It was a very powerful film.

00:37:57.000 It was actually... I'd say it's probably one of my favorite films of yours.

00:38:01.000 And I've seen them all.

00:38:02.000 Well, it's the shortest film.

00:38:04.000 It's 90 minutes.

00:38:05.000 It's an hour and a half long.

00:38:07.000 Because we've had requests to make things shorter.

00:38:09.000 And it's only $19.95 because other films are two and a half hours and two hours and 44 minutes long.

00:38:16.000 But it's...

00:38:18.000 It's really two films in one.

00:38:19.000 It gets into Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, how Bush and Carrier are cousins, all the elite connections, how it's all staged, the police state they're setting up, the latest info.

00:38:29.000 We just finished the film this week, so it's on VHS now for folks that want it.

00:38:34.000 In about a month, it'll be out on DVD.

00:38:37.000 But don't wait, folks.

00:38:38.000 Just get the VHS.

00:38:39.000 Get it out to people.

00:38:39.000 Good to hear from you, Danny.

00:38:41.000 I appreciate it.

00:38:42.000 Rodney in Texas.

00:38:43.000 Rodney, you're on the air.

00:38:44.000 Go ahead.

00:38:45.000 Hello, hello, hello.

00:38:46.000 Hello, sir.

00:38:47.000 Yes, I wanted to commend you also for this little commercial that you did with the gentleman calling the pizza place.

00:38:55.000 I didn't do that.

00:38:57.000 The ACLU did.

00:38:59.000 It's very accurate of what they're saying.

00:39:01.000 Very accurate because I've had that experience.

00:39:04.000 I'm right here in Austin, Texas.

00:39:06.000 I won't, not unless you allow me, I won't name the name of the company that did it to me.

00:39:11.000 I ordered a pizza delivery.

00:39:13.000 And after about 20-25 minutes, I said, well, something's wrong here.

00:39:17.000 And before I could lift the phone up to call to see what was going on, they called me and they went through all of these questions that absolutely had nothing to do with my pizza order.

00:39:30.000 Well, sir, USA Today, did you hear me when I read that article?

00:39:34.000 Uh, no.

00:39:36.000 uh... it was uh... scofflaws uh... is scofflaws get arrested or something like that is type scofflaws people would ignore laws but it's scofflaws and pizza delivery into google when it should or into searchinfowars.com and it should pop up but about three months ago it's funny because this actually got incorporated into a movie last minute I don't want to get off into that because I showed it to a director and he was making a movie at the time but the point is

00:40:05.000 It was a movie about the futuristic slave state.

00:40:07.000 When you call to get a pizza from a major chain, it automatically goes through a Homeland Security database to see if you're a wanted criminal, or if you have even moving violations, parking tickets, any type of warrants out, and the pizza places get 20% of the fees, court fees, and they're also gathering all this data, many of them, and selling it.

00:40:29.000 So what type of questions did they ask you?

00:40:31.000 Oh man, it was...

00:40:33.000 Uh, oh, I can't even remember it because what happened, the questions just kept going on and on and on and after that I just told the gentleman, cancel the order, and I have an order.

00:40:44.000 Well give us an example.

00:40:46.000 Uh, well, uh, um, uh, oh man, I can't remember, it's been like two or three months back here when, when, uh, when it happened.

00:40:55.000 Wait a minute, so you're on the phone with him for 25 minutes?

00:40:57.000 No, no, no, no, I called him back after my order had came.

00:41:02.000 And actually, before I picked the phone up, he called me and I said, well, are you the manager?

00:41:09.000 And he says, no, but we're the people who check to make sure the credit cards and all the orders are valid.

00:41:17.000 And that's when he started to ask me all this laundry list of questions.

00:41:21.000 Well, I'll tell you what, since you brought this up, let me put you on hold and let's play this piece right now.

00:41:26.000 It's at the top of InfoWars.com if you want to watch it.

00:41:30.000 Because it's actually video.

00:41:33.000 It's a computer representation of a computer screen while she's checking all this data in the Grand Matrix database.

00:41:39.000 It's really called Matrix, folks.

00:41:41.000 And it does have all of this in it.

00:41:42.000 And the pizza places are being hooked into this.

00:41:45.000 This is not a joke.

00:41:46.000 Put him on hold, Stephanie, and go ahead and play that. 0.62

00:41:48.000 Thanks.

00:41:49.000 Pizza Palace, guaranteed hot in 30 minutes, so it's free.

00:41:54.000 This is Mary.

00:41:54.000 May I take your order?

00:41:55.000 Hi, Mary.

00:41:57.000 Yes, I'd like to order.

00:41:58.000 This is Mr. Kelly.

00:41:59.000 Yes?

00:42:00.000 Thank you for calling again, sir.

00:42:01.000 I hear your national identification number is 610-204-9998-45-54610, is that correct?

00:42:07.000 Uh, yes.

00:42:09.000 Thank you, Mr. Kelly.

00:42:10.000 I see you live at 736 Montrose Corp, but you're calling from your cell phone.

00:42:14.000 Are you at home?

00:42:14.000 I'm just leaving work, but I'm... Oh, we can deliver to Bob's Auto Supply.

00:42:17.000 That's at 175 Lincoln Avenue, yes?

00:42:19.000 No, I'm on my way home.

00:42:22.000 How do you know all this stuff?

00:42:23.000 We just got wired into the system, sir.

00:42:25.000 Oh.

00:42:25.000 Well, I'd like to order a couple of your double meat special pizzas.

00:42:29.000 Sure thing.

00:42:30.000 There'll be a new $20 charge for those, sir.

00:42:32.000 What do you mean?

00:42:33.000 Sir, the system shows me that your medical records indicate that you have high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol.

00:42:38.000 Luckily, we have a new agreement with your national health care provider that allows us to sell you double meat pies as long as you agree to waive all future claims of liability.

00:42:44.000 What?

00:42:45.000 Do you agree, sir?

00:42:46.000 You can sign the form when we deliver, but there is a charge for processing.

00:42:48.000 The total is $67 even.

00:42:51.000 $67?

00:42:51.000 Well, that includes the delivery surcharge of $15 to cover the added risk to our driver of traveling through an orange zone.

00:42:57.000 I live in an orange zone?

00:42:58.000 Now you do.

00:42:59.000 Looks like there was another robbery on Montrose yesterday.

00:43:01.000 Hmm.

00:43:03.000 You could save $48 if you ordered our special Sprout Submarine Combo and picked it up yourself.

00:43:08.000 Comes with tofu sticks.

00:43:09.000 Those are very tasty, sir.

00:43:10.000 Good value, too.

00:43:11.000 But I want double meat.

00:43:13.000 Well, I'm sure you can afford the $67, then.

00:43:16.000 You just bought those tickets to Hawaii.

00:43:17.000 They weren't cheap, eh?

00:43:19.000 Oh.

00:43:20.000 But I see you checked out the budget beach bomb at the library last week.

00:43:24.000 Hmm.

00:43:25.000 Up to you, sir.

00:43:26.000 All right, all right.

00:43:27.000 I'll get the sprout subs. 0.96

00:43:29.000 Good choice, sir.

00:43:31.000 Gotta watch that waist if you're hitting the beach, eh?

00:43:34.000 42 inches.

00:43:34.000 Wow.

00:43:36.000 Man, I'd say tofu and sprouts is, like, required.

00:43:39.000 That's how much?

00:43:40.000 Just between you and me, there's a $3 off coupon in this month's Total Men's Fitness Magazine.

00:43:44.000 Your wife Betty subscribes to that, right?

00:43:46.000 Anyhow, clip that and it's $19.99 even.

00:43:49.000 Whoa, looks like you maxed out on all your credit cards.

00:43:52.000 Bring cash, okay?

00:43:53.000 Want to stop this from happening?

00:43:56.000 Alright, so Rodney, final comment.

00:43:59.000 Right, well, one of the questions that he did ask me, is this the only telephone number that you used when you ordered from us?

00:44:06.000 And he tried to give alternative addresses, you know, have any other members from your household ever ordered from?

00:44:13.000 Number one, number one, was it a big chain?

00:44:17.000 Uh, no.

00:44:17.000 No, it's another one.

00:44:20.000 I could tell you their name.

00:44:21.000 But is it a big, so it's not a chain?

00:44:23.000 No, well, I don't, Gaddy's.

00:44:27.000 Oh yeah, that's a huge chain.

00:44:29.000 Okay, Gaddy's Pizza.

00:44:30.000 Had you ordered from them before?

00:44:31.000 Uh, yes I have.

00:44:33.000 Several, actually I've been ordering from them for years, but this, about three months ago, that was the first time that that had ever happened to me.

00:44:41.000 Very suspicious.

00:44:43.000 I just want to say one thing about an article, an article in the New York Times about detainment vaccines.

00:44:49.000 Yeah, I didn't see it.

00:44:50.000 Yeah, it was a leading story.

00:44:52.000 I had a gentleman call another radio this morning who was talking about one of his grandbabies had been severely injured by taking a shot at infant.

00:45:03.000 Five shots at one time at the infant.

00:45:05.000 And he got in a big argument with the person on the radio station.

00:45:10.000 And this was before I had actually read the article, but they were talking about how the company that has produced these of vaccines for the upcoming flu season.

00:45:22.000 Notice that they had a huge batch of contaminated vaccines that they have to recall.

00:45:28.000 Well, when aren't they contaminated?

00:45:30.000 That's what my question was.

00:45:32.000 What if, you know, they have a history of saying, well, we'll take this out of vaccine and then we later find out that all they've done is increase the poison.

00:45:43.000 That's right.

00:45:44.000 I just wanted to put that out there.

00:45:46.000 So was it a New York Times article today?

00:45:48.000 Yes, today.

00:45:49.000 It looked right there in the news section.

00:45:51.000 But I'm sure they tell you the problems have been fixed.

00:45:55.000 Everything's alright.

00:45:58.000 Alex, I'm looking forward to your report from New York.

00:46:02.000 I'm kind of anxious to see what it's like to be held at gunpoint.

00:46:07.000 Yeah, they're going to have the police there aiming their rubber bullets and their real guns at everybody, sound wave weapons, you name it.

00:46:12.000 Thanks for the call, my friend.

00:46:13.000 Alright.

00:46:14.000 I said I'm going to go to the calls quick, and here I am dragging along, but these calls are all so good.

00:46:19.000 Up next is Robert.

00:46:21.000 Robert, where are you calling us from?

00:46:22.000 I'm in Denver, Colorado, Alex.

00:46:24.000 Welcome.

00:46:24.000 Good morning.

00:46:25.000 Thank you very much for taking my call.

00:46:26.000 I appreciate that.

00:46:27.000 I'll try to be brief.

00:46:28.000 I also, just like Danny, watched your new movie.

00:46:33.000 The American Dictators last night on the internet?

00:46:35.000 Yes, on presentplanet.tv.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, nice piece.

00:46:38.000 I really enjoyed watching it.

00:46:39.000 I watched it straight up the wall.

00:46:41.000 As a matter of fact, great piece.

00:46:42.000 Congratulations on that.

00:46:43.000 Well, thanks for being a member.

00:46:45.000 Not a problem.

00:46:45.000 Now, you said something about the Enron company that kind of lost me.

00:46:50.000 Can you kind of speak that again?

00:46:51.000 You said that they were basically like a slush fund or a money launderer for the CIA.

00:46:55.000 Can you speak external on that subject?

00:46:58.000 Yes, before Enron purposefully collapsed, They had moved the real assets and the pension fund money out of it into other corporations, okay?

00:47:07.000 And they came out in the news, they had a bunch of offshore Cayman Island accounts in the hundreds of billions of dollars and then they just blow out the dummy corporation.

00:47:18.000 And so that's what Enron was really all about.

00:47:19.000 Interesting, okay.

00:47:21.000 But the evidence is it collapsed a little bit before they were planning for it to happen and they had trouble covering it up.

00:47:28.000 Okay, cool.

00:47:29.000 Now, earlier this morning, did I hear you say that Danny Glover goes to Bohemian Grove?

00:47:35.000 Yes, he does.

00:47:35.000 He's the only black member that I know of.

00:47:39.000 That Hector?

00:47:40.000 Yes.

00:47:41.000 The guy in color purple goes to Bohemian Grove?

00:47:43.000 Yeah, the guy in Predator 2.

00:47:45.000 Amazing.

00:47:47.000 That floored me when you said that.

00:47:48.000 Wow.

00:47:49.000 Well, if that's true, I see him in an entirely different light then.

00:47:53.000 At any rate, Alex, keep up the good work.

00:47:55.000 Great show, great work on the movie American Dictators, and I look forward also to hearing from you next week in New York.

00:48:01.000 I'll be tuning in.

00:48:02.000 Thank you, I appreciate the call.

00:48:05.000 Yeah, Danny Glover, Michael Moore, and a bunch of other people are going to be leading the protest against Lord Bush Sunday, and they say they're going to go ahead and go on to Central Park, where everybody's always been allowed to protest.

00:48:20.000 Regardless of Bloomberg says they're not allowed to, so there's going to be a showdown supposedly.

00:48:23.000 I've got an article here on that, a couple of them.

00:48:26.000 I'll be there covering that.

00:48:27.000 Monday I'll be an eyewitness to whatever really happened for you here on the broadcast.

00:48:32.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mark in Rhode Island.

00:48:38.000 Welcome, sir.

00:48:38.000 How are you today, Alex?

00:48:40.000 Good, my friend.

00:48:41.000 Good.

00:48:41.000 Hey, Alex, I just want to thank you for going to New York and to cover this Republican convention.

00:48:47.000 You're going in the eye of the storm.

00:48:50.000 Yeah, I don't want to go.

00:48:52.000 I mean, I don't want to subject myself to this, but I have to.

00:48:55.000 Are you going to be with some people there, Alex?

00:48:57.000 Yes.

00:48:58.000 Okay.

00:48:59.000 Well, I know you can handle yourself.

00:49:00.000 I know you're a strong guy.

00:49:02.000 Bless your noble Lord.

00:49:03.000 And I just thought, Alex, there's a lot of Christians out there that give you a lot of prayer cover.

00:49:09.000 Well, I would love those prayers.

00:49:11.000 I would be very thankful for that.

00:49:13.000 I'm not afraid of getting beat up or getting shot for no reason or any of that.

00:49:17.000 I'm afraid of getting in trouble early and not getting the footage and not being able to document.

00:49:22.000 So, I'm going to try to behave myself.

00:49:24.000 But, I mean, if a cop marches up and says, turn your camera off, you know, I'm a TV host, radio host, documentary filmmaker, footage I've shot has aired all over national television, I'm just going to say no.

00:49:34.000 Are you going to have your bullhorn out?

00:49:36.000 No, I'm not going to be out bullhorning.

00:49:37.000 I'm going to be out documenting.

00:49:39.000 Alex, one other thing, and I'll hang up.

00:49:41.000 I've got a real good friend of mine who's listening to you right now, actually through WAIRL 1320.

00:49:48.000 And I've talked to him about a lot of this stuff over the years.

00:49:54.000 And he's not too convinced, but he's not too sure about it.

00:49:57.000 But he knows that the whole Kennedy assassination was a bad job.

00:50:03.000 I was wondering if there was anything you could say to him right now to just let him know what's going on.

00:50:09.000 This whole thing is a big scam and it's all the new world up.

00:50:14.000 Well, Mark, none of us want to believe these horrible things.

00:50:17.000 Good, decent people have trouble getting our minds around it.

00:50:20.000 But if you've read any history book or studied what ancient governments did and all the subterfuge and abuse and the exercise of power by these control freaks, to deny that we're facing government corruption now is to deny what the founding fathers warned us of.

00:50:35.000 And so it's just denying history.

00:50:37.000 So if he loves his children, his family, this country, he'd better break through the conditioning and break through the subconscious fear.

00:50:44.000 He knows it's true already.

00:50:46.000 He just doesn't want to admit it.

00:50:48.000 Mark, because it's too horrible.

00:50:50.000 Well, it's there, sir, whether you deny it or not.

00:50:53.000 You're not a baby.

00:50:54.000 It's not peekaboo.

00:50:55.000 Covering your eyes doesn't make the world disappear.

00:50:57.000 It only disappears in your mind.

00:50:59.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:19.000 We're about to go back to your calls.

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00:55:37.000 Alright, let's go ahead and go to John in Tennessee.

00:55:40.000 John, go ahead.

00:55:41.000 Hello.

00:55:42.000 Hello, sir.

00:55:43.000 Last night on TV, Hal Lindsey warned that the media monopoly of 10 CEOs can be controlled by a single antichrist.

00:55:51.000 And he said, of course, Hitler would love this technology of mind control. 0.75

00:55:56.000 And he used video graphics of a human head, like a sculpture, a 3D sculpture of the Antichrist.

00:56:02.000 And that head looked exactly like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:56:06.000 And he said the Antichrist would be a Jew.

00:56:08.000 So my question is, does that mean Arnold is a Jew, like his buddy Hitler, Rothschild, Bush, Kerry, and Clinton, Blythe, Rockefeller? 0.73

00:56:20.000 Well, now, come on.

00:56:21.000 Most of those people you named don't even claim to be Jewish.

00:56:24.000 Some of them claim for votes that, oh, I'm 10% Jewish or something.

00:56:28.000 I don't think the New World Order is run by Jews. 0.95

00:56:31.000 I think it's run by Satanists.

00:56:32.000 Are there people in the New World Order who claim to be Jews?

00:56:35.000 Who are connected to killing Jews and Hitler?

00:56:37.000 Yes.

00:56:38.000 Uh, but I think it's really overall a red herring to say it's the Germans or the Jews or the Chinese or, you know, the Catholics. 0.77

00:56:45.000 Anybody who says it's one group running it all, uh, no, it's evil people, sir.

00:56:50.000 Well, what if, uh, Schwarzenegger could be the Antichrist?

00:56:52.000 What if he's their big boy they're gonna groom to be the next president and then God knows what after that.

00:56:58.000 We know they've groomed him.

00:56:59.000 We know he's a Rothschild minion.

00:57:01.000 We know that he's lined up to be president and Warren Hatch has introduced bills to get rid of the 22nd Amendment so a foreigner can be president. 1.00

00:57:08.000 And I have no doubt that with the new electronic voting machines and the rest of it in 08 or 012, I believe Arnold Schwarzenegger will be President of the United States.

00:57:19.000 And I believe he will be the President when we go to World War III because he's an archetypal evil Nazi and that's who they want. 0.70

00:57:26.000 He will be Adolf Hitler. 0.96

00:57:28.000 I know the Democrats have totally forgotten that A&E TV reported that JFK Jr.

00:57:33.000 was supposed to be U.S.

00:57:36.000 Senator in 2000 and a presidential nominee in 2004.

00:57:40.000 Yes, they definitely killed him.

00:57:42.000 Yeah, and witnesses saw the plane explode on final approach and Kennedy had 700 hours as pilot in command.

00:57:48.000 Now, A&E blamed either Giuliani's mafia ties or Hillary Clinton in 2000, but they forgot about the Skull and Bones Bush family or Kerry in 2004.

00:57:58.000 So I think the Democrats really ought to wake up to that.

00:58:03.000 That their main candidate was murdered either by Harry's gang or Bush's gang.

00:58:08.000 I guess they're the same gang.

00:58:10.000 The Skull and Bones people.

00:58:11.000 Yeah, JFK Jr.

00:58:12.000 was smart, really good looking, had the name recognition, and he would have been unstoppable.

00:58:19.000 And last I want to mention, I bought a new car this month with the GPS OnStar antenna.

00:58:24.000 Yeah.

00:58:25.000 I didn't pay for the OnStar, but the antenna is clearly visible on the rear view mirror.

00:58:30.000 Broadcasting through the windshield, so a Faraday shield grounded to the car body would block that antenna if anybody wanted to.

00:58:37.000 And the car had an engine from Mexico, transmission from Italy, and the rest was made in Canada, even though it was a Chevrolet.

00:58:45.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:58:47.000 Stay with us.

00:58:48.000 Second hour straight ahead.

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00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen.

00:59:17.000 Next week, I'll be in New York all five days reporting in with our Hosts that are good enough to sit in for me.

00:59:27.000 We've got a bunch of guests coming on as well.

00:59:30.000 Coming up this Sunday, I'll be there.

00:59:31.000 There's going to be a quarter million to a half a million protesters being led by Lord Michael Moore and others.

00:59:37.000 Marching down towards Central Park where they've been told they're not allowed to protest despite the fact there have been thousands of protests there.

00:59:44.000 They say it'll hurt the grass.

00:59:46.000 I'll be there covering that and see what happens.

00:59:48.000 Bloomberg's got his sound cannons ready, his M60s, everything.

00:59:52.000 So I'll be there to cover what they do to the crowd, teach us how to be good slaves, and we'll be documenting all of that here for you on Monday, and I'll be in New York as I said.

01:00:03.000 Bunch of news about the new domestic CIA via executive fiat, Catherine Albrecht about the RFID tracker chips, latest developments, that's coming up here in just a few minutes.

01:00:12.000 But right now, let's talk to Clyde in Colorado.

01:00:15.000 Clyde, you're on the air.

01:00:17.000 Good morning, Alex.

01:00:18.000 Good morning.

01:00:19.000 If you do the research on the Rothschilds, you find two things.

01:00:23.000 First, most of them are blind and blue-eyed.

01:00:24.000 Many of them.

01:00:26.000 And they don't allow, or don't permit, much marriage outside of that Aryan background. 0.66

01:00:33.000 Yeah, and then they use this whole envelope of, oh, we're Jewish, but then you find them funding Hitler. 0.53

01:00:37.000 Yeah, they're actually German.

01:00:39.000 They're actually German in origin.

01:00:42.000 I have two questions I wanted to ask you about.

01:00:44.000 What evidence do we have so far that Or if any, or will we develop it at some point, that perhaps military intelligence is responsible for many of the bombings and perhaps some of the killings in Iraq?

01:00:58.000 Well, we have evidence that a lot of it is, let's just say, intelligence agencies.

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:04.000 Has there been any articles or concrete specific evidence?

01:01:08.000 Hundreds, hundreds, yes.

01:01:09.000 Okay.

01:01:10.000 Second question is, I follow these protest groups really since the 70s around the country.

01:01:16.000 Most of them are controlled opposition, false opposition, government minions.

01:01:22.000 How do we find The specifics are probably hidden to a great extent.

01:01:27.000 I've got video of them hired by the cops, housed by the cops, protected, and they attack the peaceful people after the thugs, you know, displayed themselves like peacocks for the news cameras.

01:01:37.000 Well, I know Alex, this is in the Reese Report incidentally, I know that the big foundations channel money through a couple of levels and then funnel it down Uh, to much of this phony opposition to, you know, even in, you go back and do the research for the Vietnam War, I discovered that 25 years ago.

01:01:55.000 Yeah, that's how they have a controlled debate.

01:01:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:58.000 So people look at the opposition and go, they're a bunch of idiots, I'm not for that. 1.00

01:02:01.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:02:02.000 Yeah, I think.

01:02:04.000 Back in the 60s and 70s, they'd have a bunch of communist hippies break windows, cuss at old people, and then say we're against the war.

01:02:12.000 Well, that actually kept people behind the phony war.

01:02:15.000 That's true, you know, and I researched one time what percentage of kids in the 60's that went through college.

01:02:20.000 I believe there was like 15 or 18 million that went through college in the 1960's.

01:02:26.000 How many of them had ever been involved in any kind of a protest?

01:02:29.000 Well, the neocons... The interesting thing I found out was one half, one percent.

01:02:33.000 One percent?

01:02:33.000 Yeah, one half of one percent.

01:02:35.000 Sir, the neocons, they were all out there leading the 60's demonstrations, now they run the White House.

01:02:42.000 I understand that.

01:02:43.000 You know, that's classical Marxism, you know, just infiltrate the young groups, young people, and then you are the establishment in the next generation.

01:02:52.000 That's not unprecedented in history.

01:02:55.000 That's been done way back, you know, way back in Roman and time.

01:03:00.000 Well, Austria did that to Poland and other countries.

01:03:02.000 They tried to do it here.

01:03:03.000 They would send someone to the country and then have them become the president or the leader.

01:03:08.000 Right.

01:03:09.000 Just on another issue, Alex, I think one of the things that I sense from people who should really know better is if you review history, starting even with the Jews that refused to believe the Romans, were going to level and murder two and a half million of them. 0.87

01:03:24.000 The denial on the part of people that there is the depth and breadth of evil just doesn't...

01:03:32.000 Jerusalem was denying it even as Titus marched on them and laid waste. 0.70

01:03:37.000 Well, you know, the Armenians did that with the Turks. 0.66

01:03:39.000 You know, the Holocaust. 0.87

01:03:41.000 You go right down the line.

01:03:42.000 The Ukrainians did that with Stalin. 0.77

01:03:44.000 I mean, it's just incredible.

01:03:45.000 The denial of the breath.

01:03:46.000 It is.

01:03:46.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:47.000 Gotta go.

01:03:48.000 We'll be back with Kathryn Olbert.

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01:06:50.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:07:01.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:05.000 Waging war on corruption, crashing the lies, and disinformation.

01:07:11.000 I know we got a lot of phone lines.

01:07:13.000 We'll get to your calls early in this first hour.

01:07:15.000 It all ties into what Catherine Allbert is covering.

01:07:19.000 Catherine, of course, is there at Harvard.

01:07:22.000 And we're going to be discussing RFID tracker chips.

01:07:25.000 I mean, they had an article in CNET about how your light socket in your house is going to be reading your RFID chips.

01:07:31.000 They're going to be in everything.

01:07:32.000 They're already going in under the skin of government officials, children, the old. 0.99

01:07:37.000 They want them for prisoners. 0.67

01:07:39.000 Huge developments, and she's been leading the fight for years against this, starting with loyalty cards. 0.77

01:07:46.000 We're honored to have her.

01:07:47.000 Catherine, good to have you on with us.

01:07:49.000 Hey Alex, it's always a pleasure to be on your show.

01:07:51.000 You bet.

01:07:51.000 Tell folks about your organization and what we're facing in a nutshell, what RFID is, and then we'll get into the latest developments.

01:07:59.000 Absolutely.

01:08:00.000 I am the founder and director of an organization called Caspian, and that stands for a big mouthful, Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering.

01:08:09.000 I got started back in 1999 when I realized that we consumers are getting the rough end of the stick here.

01:08:15.000 From corporations who are collecting all of our private information and putting it in big databases where it's right for the picking by the federal government and all sorts of people who would want to use it to take advantage of us and extract more money from our wallets and sell information and traffic essentially in our private data.

01:08:31.000 And since that time, I got started fighting supermarket loyalty cards for a whole number of reasons.

01:08:37.000 What people have just now begun to realize across the country is that every time they scan one of those loyalty cards, they get their data put in a database and that information has been used for racial profiling.

01:08:47.000 It has been turned over to the FBI.

01:08:49.000 In mass, it's been used in all sorts of really scandalous ways against people.

01:08:53.000 And the next step from the supermarket loyalty card that the industry has planned is essentially, instead of tracking us through loyalty cards, is tracking us through everything we own or carry, and that's using the RFID or radio frequency identification devices.

01:09:10.000 And you've been to the big industry confabs where they meet and discuss this.

01:09:15.000 We have industry documents that show it from the factory to the warehouse to the store to your car to your home to the landfill tracking the whole life of that and tracking you and your family.

01:09:25.000 Well the idea Alex is exactly that.

01:09:27.000 The plan is to replace the barcode which has been around since the 1970s with a new and they want to call it a new and improved radio barcode.

01:09:36.000 We call it a spy chip.

01:09:39.000 Now it's important to add, Catherine, that the barcode was not universally accepted until 1986, when Walmart ordered all suppliers to have it.

01:09:48.000 They were huge then, now they're the biggest retailer, that forced everyone onto it.

01:09:52.000 Now Walmart's moving the last two years, as you know, but to tell the audience, to force all their suppliers to have it.

01:09:58.000 The RFID, so is the Defense Department, one of the other biggest purchasers of goods, and so this is frightening.

01:10:05.000 Well, and you're absolutely right, Alex, that Wal-Mart is driving the adoption of this along with the Defense Department.

01:10:11.000 Back in 1999, and ironically the very same month I started Caspian, a group of business people from Gillette and Procter & Gamble, now Procter & Gamble brings in billions of dollars every year in selling everyday products like Crest toothpaste and Tide laundry detergent, all sorts of things that people buy every day.

01:10:30.000 And they got together with the scientists and engineers at MIT to develop a way to track all of their products all of the time.

01:10:39.000 And essentially what they developed was this RFID system.

01:10:41.000 It consists of a tiny computer chip the size of a speck of dust in some cases, connected up to a tiny antenna.

01:10:47.000 They want to put them on physical items.

01:10:50.000 They can weave them into clothing.

01:10:51.000 They can press them into the rubber of a product as it rolls off an assembly line, like say in a sole of a pair of shoes.

01:10:58.000 They can press it between the layers of cardboard.

01:11:00.000 There are a whole variety of different ways to put these things onto products.

01:11:05.000 And ultimately the goal is to have every product manufactured on planet Earth contain one of these chips.

01:11:11.000 Let me stop you right there and read a Chicago Sun-Times article that I mentioned yesterday.

01:11:16.000 No I-pass, prepare to pay double!

01:11:19.000 And they admit it's a powerful RFID chip that can be read from hundreds of feet away.

01:11:24.000 If you don't have an iPass, start collecting more money.

01:11:27.000 Tolls for cars without the electronic units will be doubled.

01:11:31.000 And it goes on.

01:11:32.000 Austin is saying, we're going to have toll roads on every major road.

01:11:34.000 You're going to have to have this.

01:11:36.000 Or you'll have to pay double.

01:11:37.000 They've had these things for years.

01:11:39.000 San Francisco Bay Area reported a year ago that they've put up the readers, whether it's not even toll roads, to track people.

01:11:46.000 They've been using it in divorce cases, you know, for where they used the data of where the person was really at.

01:11:52.000 I mean, this is already being used, and it's already going into hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of products, is it not?

01:11:59.000 Absolutely.

01:11:59.000 Now there's a little bit of a difference and I want to clarify this for your listeners because it's not too technical but there's a distinction you have to make.

01:12:07.000 RFID, the RF part is radio frequency.

01:12:10.000 The ID part means that it communicates identification and it does that with a unique ID number.

01:12:16.000 What all RFID systems share is the fact that they communicate a unique ID number over a distance using radio waves.

01:12:22.000 Now, in the ones they want to put on products, the distance you're looking at is anywhere from a couple of inches to, at most, maybe 20 or 30 feet away.

01:12:29.000 And the reason for that is because they're what's called passive devices.

01:12:32.000 They do not have a battery.

01:12:33.000 So, for those items, let's say something you buy in the supermarket, like a package of Gillette Mach3 razor blades, which they're tagging, something like that, in order for them to read it, they would have to beam out energy at it in a radius of about, in that case, probably about 10 feet, perhaps even less, depending on how they've configured it, and it pings the little RFID tag on the Mach3 razor blade package, which then sends back its information.

01:13:01.000 But the thing on the razor blade package does not have its own power source.

01:13:04.000 So it has to rely on an external reader somewhere in the environment.

01:13:08.000 Now these reader devices can be embedded in floor tiles, they can be woven into carpeting, they can be put in shelves or doorways or walls.

01:13:15.000 So it's easy to have them around so that they would not be spotted.

01:13:18.000 In fact, let's go over smart shelving, which USA Today has reported on, where the pressure plates monitor you, the camera takes a digital photo, that's matched by computers at the end of the day for the number of units sold against the number of people that put packages in the carts, and then they can even use that for law enforcement.

01:13:37.000 Bingo!

01:13:37.000 You've got it, absolutely.

01:13:39.000 You've done your homework on this as usual, Alex.

01:13:41.000 But the secondary, well, I've read what you've said, read all the articles, but secondarily, it can also track and is keeping a record of you, the individual, period, for a database of what you purchased.

01:13:50.000 Well, and ultimately, that is one of the goals of this technology.

01:13:53.000 Right now, there are billions of dollars being poured into an invisible layer of infrastructure in retail stores that is designed to gather information about shoppers.

01:14:03.000 And the reason they want to do that is to determine who their valuable and not valuable shoppers are, for example.

01:14:09.000 In fact, I have a quote right here I wanted to read you.

01:14:11.000 It's three different quotes.

01:14:12.000 I did a Google search.

01:14:13.000 Anybody with a computer, try a search on this.

01:14:16.000 Quote, not all customers have equal value.

01:14:19.000 End quote.

01:14:20.000 And you will get several dozen Google hits.

01:14:23.000 And they will all talk about how you want to be able to identify your customers so that you can discriminate against the ones that you don't want to have in your store.

01:14:31.000 And here's a couple quotes.

01:14:32.000 Knowing the customer means recognizing not all customers have equal value.

01:14:36.000 Providing premium services to the most valuable customers while emphasizing efficiency and handling less profitable customer segments, etc.

01:14:43.000 I'm sorry for interrupting, that's my trademark, but this is building, this made me angry, this is building discrimination into an automatic identification system.

01:14:53.000 Please repeat what you were saying.

01:14:54.000 Yeah, well here, now that was the first one.

01:14:55.000 Let me read you a second one.

01:14:56.000 How to increase your profits.

01:14:58.000 Not all customers have equal value to your organization.

01:15:00.000 This is from an industry consultant by the name of Justin Hitt.

01:15:04.000 And he says, if a customer is not profitable, stop serving them.

01:15:08.000 Dot, dot, dot.

01:15:09.000 Consider charging unprofitable customers more.

01:15:12.000 Over time, you will be rewarded for your efforts with an overall improved quality of customer.

01:15:17.000 Now let's go back here.

01:15:19.000 I told the story last hour about I said I'd never use a self-checkout lane.

01:15:23.000 I read industry documents five, six years ago where they said they'll put in a few of them, training on that, then finally get rid of all service checkouts.

01:15:32.000 And now at Home Depot they'll have 10, 15 self-serve, one or two service ones.

01:15:37.000 In just a year, they've almost phased it all out.

01:15:40.000 I went in last night, 10.30 at night, hundreds of customers, four employees walked over, the manager, they were all fans.

01:15:46.000 Alex, you've got to use the self-checkout.

01:15:49.000 I said, no, you're going to open it up and register and you're going to give me service.

01:15:53.000 But, again, this is another example.

01:15:54.000 In the future, they say, your shopping cart will have the RFID reader, you'll swipe a card or thumb scan, and there won't even be checkouts to begin with.

01:16:02.000 Right.

01:16:03.000 And, in fact, it gets even worse.

01:16:04.000 Here's the problem.

01:16:05.000 That records everything you do.

01:16:07.000 It automatically makes all transactions cashless.

01:16:09.000 Go ahead.

01:16:10.000 Well, they've developed the loyalty card.

01:16:12.000 And loyalty card is that frequent shopper club card that people carry around in their wallets to get discounts at the supermarket.

01:16:19.000 We have reports that some retail chains have begun experimenting with making those RFID enabled.

01:16:25.000 And in fact, I actually have some of these from Germany where we got some big protests over there because they slipped them into something called the Payback Loyalty Card.

01:16:33.000 Yeah, the grocery store.

01:16:34.000 Yeah, the one carried by 22 million Germans.

01:16:37.000 And until I went over there, these people were carrying these things around and did not realize that they were carrying around tracking devices.

01:16:43.000 But there were massive protests in Germany.

01:16:46.000 People are really standing up now.

01:16:47.000 Yeah, they did.

01:16:48.000 And in fact, that store dropped that thing like a hot potato. 0.95

01:16:51.000 So, they got rid of it.

01:16:52.000 And that's the point I've got to add here.

01:16:54.000 Because you keep bringing up incredible revelations.

01:16:57.000 If we don't boycott and stop this now, they'll put it in everywhere.

01:17:00.000 Then they'll say, hey, if you don't like it, leave it.

01:17:02.000 This is the critical crossroads.

01:17:04.000 Do you agree?

01:17:05.000 I absolutely agree.

01:17:06.000 And that's why I was so glad you brought up the example of the toll transponders in the state of Illinois.

01:17:10.000 Because this is what we're going to begin to see.

01:17:14.000 In the past, people have said, hey, we want you to participate in this data collection scheme and we'll give you a discount, like the supermarkets.

01:17:20.000 That will be no choice.

01:17:21.000 Well, our research has shown that there hasn't really even been a discount, but put that to the side for a moment.

01:17:26.000 If you look at driving on the toll roads, what the governor of Illinois is now saying, if you do not have an RFID transponder in your car, you will be charged double.

01:17:36.000 For driving anonymously through our toll booth and on our toll road.

01:17:40.000 By the way, that's already being done in Kansas and California.

01:17:43.000 Five years ago, it's in my film, America Destroyed by Design, at the toll booth that's happening.

01:17:48.000 And Austin has announced, to basically get on any major road, you'll have to have one of these.

01:17:52.000 Go ahead.

01:17:53.000 Well, it's incredible.

01:17:54.000 And, you know, the state of Oregon is talking about using it to tax people for using their cars.

01:17:59.000 London, England right now is talking about Using it for access into London, you would have to have RFID right in the license plate of your car.

01:18:06.000 It would be a crime to remove it.

01:18:08.000 So, yes, definitely.

01:18:09.000 And the thing about the plan in Illinois, if you look closely at it, they're talking about getting rid of the toll booth altogether and having people drive under an arch.

01:18:17.000 So you would just zip right on through at your regular speed, go under this arch, which would be able to read the thing in your car and gain your information.

01:18:24.000 And then they send you a monthly or quarterly or yearly bill.

01:18:27.000 Right, precisely.

01:18:28.000 That's the official plan here in Austin.

01:18:32.000 It's incredible.

01:18:33.000 Well, I hear your break music coming up, but I wanted to talk a little bit when we come back about the roadside wireless network planned in the UK.

01:18:41.000 All right.

01:18:42.000 And how it ties in.

01:18:43.000 Yeah.

01:18:43.000 They're already taxing them by cameras on the license plates, but it's about to get worse.

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01:23:03.000 48 states already have national ID cards, that is, state driver's license or ID cards under federal specifications and control.

01:23:14.000 Since 96 they funded the move for October 1st 2001 that all cell phones be satellite tracked.

01:23:20.000 They're not satellite tracked themselves, they triangulate with a GPS that's on the cell towers down to 15 feet.

01:23:26.000 Then they announce it after it happens.

01:23:29.000 It's the same thing with RFID.

01:23:31.000 I mean I'm now getting word of dozens of cities who go, oh we got new toll roads coming in and don't worry there won't be toll booths.

01:23:37.000 It's going to be a chip.

01:23:40.000 And so, all of this has just sprung on us.

01:23:42.000 We've got Katherine Albrecht on, and we're so honored to have, winning the fight against the RFID tracker chips beneath the skin and outside of our clothing and cars.

01:23:50.000 Gotta fight this, folks!

01:23:51.000 Gotta admit, it's real first, though.

01:23:53.000 It's in all the industry publications.

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01:23:57.000 And the next segment will go to your calls Linda J., Charlotte, Gary, Vince, and others.

01:24:03.000 Catherine, continue with what you were trying to cover.

01:24:05.000 Sure.

01:24:06.000 I just wanted to finish something I started before the break there in talking about the difference between the RFID tags they want to put on individual products and in our loyalty cards to identify us as we walk around and the ones that go in our cars.

01:24:18.000 The difference is the toll transponder tags that you have in your car contain a battery.

01:24:23.000 And they're what's called an active RFID device, meaning that that battery enables them to transmit data over long distances.

01:24:30.000 Which is one of the reasons why.

01:24:31.000 Now, if I had a package of Gillette razor blades in my car, it's unlikely that someone outside my car would be able to detect that.

01:24:37.000 If, on the other hand, I had a battery-powered RFID device, say, in a toll transponder, it could be picked up at high speeds by readers alongside the road.

01:24:45.000 And it could be designed to boost and read the smaller one, and I've seen moves to do that.

01:24:49.000 Well, you could do it, but it would be illegal currently because of FCC regulations, which actually regulate the amount of energy you're allowed to emit from a reader device.

01:24:59.000 If someone were willing to break those FTC regulations, or FCC regulations, and risk a pretty massive fine, or didn't care about the law, or perhaps were above the law, then certainly they would be able to beam more energy at the RFID devices and get a much longer read range.

01:25:13.000 Well, there are already hundreds of billboards that pick up the microscopic transmissions of your AM FM radio.

01:25:18.000 Isn't that extraordinary?

01:25:19.000 I know, I know.

01:25:21.000 And you know, boy, talk about something that just sounds nuts until you read it.

01:25:23.000 And yet, these marketing people say, We will sell billboard space based on what radio stations people are listening to, because we can use that to determine demographic information about them, and we can sell our billboard for more money.

01:25:36.000 So it's absolutely true.

01:25:37.000 It's all happening.

01:25:38.000 And now we have major industry admitting they're basically giving and selling all their info to Homeland Security, the state-level matrix system, and other groups, and they're obviously going to use all this.

01:25:48.000 They're already using customer loyalty card info.

01:25:50.000 You've got it.

01:25:53.000 Go ahead.

01:25:53.000 Yeah, the ACLU just came out with a very thorough report on that.

01:25:57.000 Regardless of what people might think of the ACLU, they do some extraordinarily good work.

01:26:02.000 in protecting people's private data and they released a recent report that I would recommend everybody to check out which talks about the marriage between corporate databases and the government and how essentially they're working hand-in-hand to create a surveillance state.

01:26:17.000 You see that article a few months ago in USA Today where when you order a pizza most big chains run it through a federal state database they get twenty percent of any arrest or conviction or fines and instead of getting a pizza you get a SWAT team Well, and the idea there is, of course, people give their real name when they order a pizza.

01:26:35.000 And they may not have that information anywhere else.

01:26:37.000 So the feds said, hey, let's get a hold of the pizza guys. 0.93

01:26:39.000 They'll know.

01:26:40.000 By the way, it's not for child kidnappers or axe murderers.

01:26:43.000 It's for people who haven't paid parking tickets.

01:26:46.000 Yes, in that case it is.

01:26:47.000 It's for people with lapsed fines.

01:26:48.000 You're exactly right.

01:26:50.000 Let me read you this thing, Alex.

01:26:51.000 I think you'll find this interesting.

01:26:53.000 It's from April 6, 2004.

01:26:56.000 It is from a publication called, let's see, E-Week.

01:27:00.000 And it's UK plans roadside wireless network, and there's just two paragraphs here I want to read.

01:27:04.000 The UK government is planning to upgrade its roadside telematic system with a wireless network designed to blanket the country with low-cost wireless internet access.

01:27:13.000 At this week's wireless LAN event, etc., etc., patented technology, the government is eyeing for massive roadside infrastructure upgrades.

01:27:21.000 Under Last Mile's scheme, contractors would install about 150,000 inexpensive wireless broadband transceivers in such equipment as streetlights and traffic lights, which will run off of available power or even solar energy.

01:27:35.000 These units will self-configure into a network capable of passing signals from one node to another until it reaches an internet uplink, a technique known as multi-hop or mesh networking.

01:27:46.000 Anyone within 820 feet of a node will be able to access a wireless connection and essentially get on the internet.

01:27:52.000 Well, what they don't tell you is what they do tell you in industry documents.

01:27:56.000 That's going to be used to tax and trace and control.

01:27:58.000 And from San Antonio to Kansas City, those antennas and probes and wires are already in.

01:28:04.000 Were you aware of that, Catherine?

01:28:06.000 I was aware of that happening in Texas, in Florida.

01:28:10.000 And I believe they're working on it in Oregon.

01:28:13.000 Well, I mean, this has been for three or four years.

01:28:15.000 I have stopped on road trips and talked to them installing it.

01:28:18.000 And the good old boy with the hard hat will just tell you.

01:28:21.000 Well, I scanned your license plate.

01:28:23.000 That reads the chip we got in the front of your car.

01:28:27.000 And this controls it.

01:28:28.000 And you're going to be able to do a lot of stuff with it, buddy.

01:28:33.000 Okay, well, Catherine knows everything and knows a little bit I don't know.

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01:32:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:32:06.000 You know, this should be top news every night.

01:32:12.000 People should be informed of this instead of all these glowing pieces in the media and the newspapers telling us how great it is every once in a while.

01:32:20.000 This is a control grid.

01:32:21.000 A casual society tracking, taxation, surveillance system.

01:32:27.000 And we shouldn't be talking about Michael Jackson's plastic surgery or Lacey Peterson or the Swift Boat captains.

01:32:35.000 Those are all big diversions.

01:32:36.000 We should be talking about the free trade area of the Americas.

01:32:39.000 We should be talking about the open borders, the gun control, the cancer viruses and mercury in the vaccines, and the RFID in the human body, outside of the human body.

01:32:50.000 Catherine, in a few minutes here, I want to go to some calls, but I've been, as usual, jumping in a lot because you're such an exciting, informed guest.

01:32:56.000 It's good to talk to somebody so informed.

01:32:58.000 But any other key areas, latest developments, ways to fight this, things we need to know, your website, and then I want to keep you with us and go to some calls, but you've got the floor.

01:33:08.000 I'm going to turn my microphone off to control myself.

01:33:11.000 Go ahead.

01:33:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:33:13.000 Well, I think the thing for people to recognize is that, as I've said whenever I give a live talk about this to the crowd out there, I say, you know, even in this room right now, someone potentially could be giving you little giveaway devices at this conference with RFID tags in it.

01:33:29.000 These things are out there.

01:33:30.000 They exist.

01:33:30.000 They're real.

01:33:31.000 They're in the world.

01:33:32.000 And unless we're careful, at some point soon, in the near future, they will begin appearing in the products that we're bringing into our own homes.

01:33:39.000 There is a huge effort on the part of not just retailers to get you to accept this technology and the people promoting it, but also, as we've seen in the state of Illinois, government to get involved to ask you to, you know, essentially penalize you if you're not willing to be part of the surveillance society.

01:33:56.000 And my feeling on this, for about the last 20-some years, since the mid-1970s, there has really been no effective consumer or citizen movement in this country.

01:34:07.000 And that, I think, is what we need at this point, because back in the 1970s, Alex, I recently had a baby, and I was reading through a book about having your baby naturally from 1976.

01:34:18.000 And one of the chapters in this book, believe it or not, was titled, Consumerism.

01:34:22.000 And I thought, Consumerism?

01:34:24.000 What in the world?

01:34:24.000 Why would you have a chapter on consumerism in a book on having a baby?

01:34:29.000 And I opened it up, and sure enough, it turned out to be this obligatory chapter that everything in the 70s had.

01:34:34.000 And the idea was, it is your money.

01:34:36.000 You are the one paying the healthcare professional to deliver your baby.

01:34:40.000 You are the one forking over money from your own pocket to these outside people.

01:34:45.000 You are the customer.

01:34:46.000 You're the consumer.

01:34:47.000 You are the king.

01:34:47.000 And you have the right to call the shots and say, I won't put up with this.

01:34:51.000 I don't want it and keep it away from me.

01:34:54.000 And if you don't, I won't give you my money.

01:34:56.000 And what is so interesting in watching the last 30 years since then come and go is that people in this generation have lost sight of their own power as consumers.

01:35:05.000 We outnumber the corporations.

01:35:07.000 We have all of the money.

01:35:08.000 They have no money unless we give it to them.

01:35:10.000 And we are essentially the customer and the king.

01:35:12.000 And we've forgotten that.

01:35:13.000 We've lost sight of that.

01:35:15.000 And we have, I think, fallen down on the job in policing these guys and making sure that they behave properly and in a way that does not undermine our best interests.

01:35:23.000 So I would say in a free market economy, and I'm a free market libertarian, I fully believe in people standing up for their own rights.

01:35:29.000 That is the clarion call here that needs to be sounded.

01:35:33.000 We need to stand up and say, it's time to tell your local Walmart, I don't like the way that you are single-handedly causing RFID to be adopted across the country and ultimately across the world.

01:35:44.000 And say, you know what, I don't care if your prices are cheaper.

01:35:47.000 I'm not going to shop there.

01:35:48.000 Or tell Gillette, I've heard that you're putting RFID tags in your products.

01:35:51.000 And by the way, if anyone would like to learn more about that, go to boycottgillette.com, and you can read all about their shelf sensors that take pictures of you when you pick up their tagged products.

01:36:01.000 And I would say, you know, I've used Gillette products all my life, or at least as long as I've been shaving.

01:36:05.000 My husband uses them.

01:36:06.000 We threw them out.

01:36:07.000 They're fabulous products.

01:36:09.000 You know what, Alex, we threw them out.

01:36:10.000 We tried a generic brand.

01:36:11.000 It was awful.

01:36:12.000 And I said, boy, maybe Gillette just is the best.

01:36:15.000 And then we switched to Schick, and they're fabulous.

01:36:17.000 Schick is even better.

01:36:18.000 In fact, my husband said, you know, I never would have made the switch because Gillette, of course, sends you the free ones in the mail and they get to locked in.

01:36:24.000 He said, I never would have made the switch unless I really, you know, unless I had heard what they were doing, and I'm so glad you motivated me to switch to Schick.

01:36:31.000 It's moved like that.

01:36:32.000 I have hundreds of emails, Alex, from people who have written and said, I'm never going to buy another Gillette product in my life or another Duracell battery, which is made by Gillette.

01:36:39.000 Hey, I don't do it.

01:36:41.000 Well, there you go!

01:36:41.000 So it's making that choice.

01:36:44.000 It's informing yourself about what these people are doing to destroy our world.

01:36:48.000 And it's not just to destroy our physical world, it's to destroy our social world.

01:36:51.000 Because if we can no longer walk down the street, and ultimately if we can no longer even relax in our own homes without being watched by these people who have appointed themselves our guardians and masters, we are in deep trouble.

01:37:04.000 And the time to stop it is now.

01:37:05.000 Well, Catherine, going back to two years ago when I first was hitting you on the broadcast, you went to one of these symposiums.

01:37:13.000 You got their own documents.

01:37:15.000 Where they said, 76% of people hate this, in our own internal studies, but don't worry, they're passive.

01:37:22.000 If we just force them to, they'll finally capitulate and accept it.

01:37:25.000 I mean, that's a paraphrase, but it's almost a quote.

01:37:27.000 Well, they said rely on consumer apathy.

01:37:31.000 Consumer apathy was their exact word.

01:37:33.000 That is what they're going to rely on to make this happen.

01:37:36.000 And they have been able to get away with this consumer apathy for years now.

01:37:39.000 And I think it's time the consumer apathy come to an end and we say, you know what?

01:37:43.000 Enough is enough.

01:37:44.000 Well, the analogy is it's like leaving your front door and your back door open for 10 years and expecting to come back and not have squirrels and possums and raccoons in your house and to not have had your home robbed.

01:37:57.000 Well, the better analogy is you continue to live in it, and you're stepping over all the droppings from the squirrels and the possums, and they've taken over your whole house.

01:38:04.000 And at some point you go, you know what?

01:38:05.000 I'm going to throw these things out! 0.78

01:38:07.000 I'm going to throw these creatures out on their rear ends, because they don't belong in my house. 0.95

01:38:12.000 And that's really what we've allowed to happen. 0.77

01:38:13.000 We've allowed our own space, our own autonomy, our own ability to make non-coercive decisions about who we want to share data with.

01:38:22.000 We have allowed all of that to be taken over.

01:38:24.000 Well, Catherine, also, the only response they've got to us is You don't want chips to track you?

01:38:30.000 You're a space alien! 0.99

01:38:31.000 You're a kook! 1.00

01:38:32.000 You're nuts! 1.00

01:38:33.000 Or it doesn't exist! 0.99

01:38:34.000 Well, here's a hundred articles where you say it does. 0.99

01:38:36.000 Well, shut up! 0.99

01:38:37.000 Well, and you know what's interesting, Alex, is that the one place where I think they're really going to be fighting an uphill battle is on chip implants, because people don't want them. 0.98

01:38:45.000 And even people who want national security, they want the chip implant in the other guy.

01:38:49.000 They want it in the prisoner.

01:38:50.000 They want it in the immigrant. 1.00

01:38:52.000 They don't want it in their own hand.

01:38:53.000 We've seen Andy Rooney get up, I've got it in my film, Road to Tyranny, and he says, everybody needs a chip, we'll all be safe.

01:39:00.000 I mean, that's crazy!

01:39:02.000 They're the space aliens!

01:39:04.000 They're the weirdos!

01:39:05.000 I mean, think of folks that, but oh, they're the big people on TV in the thousand dollar suits.

01:39:10.000 It must be normal, because, well, the Mexican government's making their employees take it.

01:39:15.000 The chip must be good!

01:39:16.000 I mean, folks, it's really happening!

01:39:19.000 Twilight Zone!

01:39:20.000 It's... We've got to... We're the normal people!

01:39:24.000 Well, and Alex, when I think about, now I don't know if people, you know, you can go to our website at nocards.org or at spychips.com, you can read it all about our efforts, protests that we've been involved with in Germany, protests we've organized here in Seattle and in Texas.

01:39:38.000 We've done quite a bit of protesting, and that is our First Amendment sort of, not only right but obligation, is to stand up and say, hey, I don't like what you're doing, in a peaceful way.

01:39:47.000 And what concerns me is the trend that we're seeing now is that the protesters of the Republican National Convention are not allowed to gather in Central Park.

01:39:57.000 The protesters of the Democratic National Convention were put in cages.

01:40:02.000 If we are not careful, at some point, anyone attending a protest will be identified simply by showing up because they will either have something in their wallet or something embedded in their flesh that will identify them.

01:40:13.000 And from that point on, they can be made into non-citizens. 0.71

01:40:15.000 There's also the face-scanning cameras.

01:40:17.000 Absolutely.

01:40:20.000 Folks, they know that we don't like this.

01:40:22.000 They know we're waking up to them.

01:40:24.000 That's why they're gearing up.

01:40:25.000 That's why they're putting on the black ski mask.

01:40:27.000 That's why their M60 machine guns had us at protest and got armored vehicles and sound guns.

01:40:32.000 It's to intimidate you because they're afraid of you.

01:40:36.000 They're planning bad things.

01:40:37.000 They're setting it up and they know you're going to fight!

01:40:40.000 Well, and the good news, Alex, is they're afraid of us because we outnumber them.

01:40:44.000 And at this point it is possible to fight in a very peaceful and civically responsible manner by saying I won't vote for the bad guys.

01:40:53.000 I'm not going to vote for either one of these major parties because they're both corrupt.

01:40:56.000 And I will not spend my money at Walmart.

01:40:59.000 I will not buy Gillette or Procter & Gamble products.

01:41:01.000 And I will diligently seek out information about companies using this technology.

01:41:05.000 And I will not give them money because how are they paying for this?

01:41:08.000 How are they putting in the multi-million dollar infrastructure with money you voluntarily took out of your wallet and handed to them?

01:41:14.000 That's right.

01:41:14.000 Let's go to some calls.

01:41:15.000 I want to thank Callers for Holding. 0.60

01:41:17.000 Linda in Texas, you're on the air.

01:41:19.000 Go ahead.

01:41:20.000 Hi Alex.

01:41:21.000 Thank you so much for waking people up.

01:41:24.000 I've been listening to you for the last six months and I don't agree with a lot, well I shouldn't say a lot, but I don't agree with some of the major issues.

01:41:33.000 I think the work you're doing is so important that I think your loyal listeners ought to go get a bottle of white shoe polish and go out to their cars and put some of your websites on their windshields.

01:41:46.000 Or they can just get a bumper sticker from the website.

01:41:48.000 But yeah, a lot of people have done that and we appreciate it.

01:41:51.000 And I was happy to see, it's taken me a long time to read a book by Greg Palast, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

01:41:59.000 And in that book he acknowledges you for the work that you've done.

01:42:03.000 It's a hard book to listen to.

01:42:05.000 It's the same with your show.

01:42:06.000 I wish we could all just be listening to music.

01:42:11.000 I feel compelled to listen to you every day before I go to work.

01:42:14.000 Well, Linda, thank you.

01:42:15.000 Look, I want to go fishing.

01:42:17.000 I want to go to Colorado and go skiing.

01:42:19.000 I want to go to France and England and take vacations and just make money and hang out with my family.

01:42:26.000 But I can't do that.

01:42:27.000 I've got to fight, fight, fight 18 hours a day because we're losing our humanity.

01:42:31.000 We're losing our freedom.

01:42:33.000 Exactly.

01:42:33.000 And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that the top wealthiest people in the world Five of the top ten are Walmart family members.

01:42:45.000 So if we did, as a nation, boycott Walmart for a little while until they straighten up their act, until they pay their employees decent wages, until they stop using sweatshops, you know, we do have the power in our vote.

01:43:00.000 Well, I used to go to Walmart every week, and I go to Walmart maybe every six months now because there's a 24-hour one, and I've got to have batteries to go do something or something's happening, And I shouldn't even do that.

01:43:12.000 And you're right, we have got to boycott, and even if it costs more at the mom-and-pop, folks, that supports the economy.

01:43:19.000 Right, we vote when we shop.

01:43:22.000 And that's one of the few votes we've got left is the jury, the grand jury, and the boycott.

01:43:27.000 Thanks for the call, Linda.

01:43:28.000 Comments, Catherine?

01:43:30.000 No, absolutely, and I really do hope that people recognize that our vote... You may not feel like your vote means much when you go out and vote in an election, but your vote has a huge impact on retailers, and we've experienced that firsthand.

01:43:43.000 And you would be amazed how quickly these retailers drop these programs when they run into trouble.

01:43:47.000 We watched four different trials last year dropped within a matter of days.

01:43:52.000 And they announced two years ago, they said by 2004 all products will have it.

01:43:57.000 They said that two years ago and major papers and we have stopped them so far and they've really been angry at you.

01:44:04.000 How did they get it?

01:44:06.000 Absolutely.

01:44:07.000 They've taken quite some pains to find out everything about me and to do some intimidation too, but it hasn't worked.

01:44:14.000 I think that when you... What are the stages?

01:44:17.000 First they laugh at you, then they fight you, and finally they have to agree with you.

01:44:21.000 And I think we need to move them to the agree with us stage where we say, listen, we're happy to play ball with you guys, but you need to stop.

01:44:27.000 And then we'll start shopping at your stores again if you stop destroying the world we're living in. 0.95

01:44:33.000 Absolutely.

01:44:34.000 Jay in Colorado, you're on the air.

01:44:36.000 Go ahead.

01:44:38.000 When she started talking about consumerism, it started reminding me of when you talk about the political landscape and the power of the vote.

01:44:48.000 As you were just saying with buying stuff, the apathy in this country is overpowering.

01:44:54.000 I would say that hopefully they drop the hammer sometime to wake people up, whether it be the draft or something happens.

01:45:00.000 Otherwise, Well, a lot of people expect somebody else to do it for them or some giant movement that happens overnight, but glaciers move slowly, trees grow slowly, tyranny was built slowly, we tear it down slowly, it's chipping away.

01:45:19.000 Peter Jennings and Dan Rather And Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and George Stephanopoulos aren't going to tell you we're winning, but believe me, these people are scared to death that they know they've got a tiger by the tail, brother.

01:45:33.000 And so let them keep saying, lay down G.I., ha ha, you won't see your sweetheart, you don't have any power.

01:45:38.000 No, no, no.

01:45:40.000 They're losing.

01:45:40.000 And don't listen to the Tokyo Roses of the New World Order.

01:45:43.000 Yeah, but are they going to, is the difference between incrementalism and are they going to go through with a Kind of like 9-11, but bigger, like you're saying.

01:45:52.000 Yeah, I think it's a catch-22.

01:45:54.000 They would have already done more 9-11s, the LCI Ada, if we wouldn't have been out exposing them.

01:45:59.000 But then it's a catch-22.

01:46:00.000 We're exposing them so bad, they may go with a giant event to try to judo us under control.

01:46:05.000 It isn't going to work.

01:46:07.000 They've already lost.

01:46:09.000 They've lost.

01:46:10.000 They've lost.

01:46:11.000 Evil always fails.

01:46:12.000 Thanks for the call.

01:46:13.000 Catherine, any comments?

01:46:15.000 Well, just in terms of holding on to your own perspective when all of these things are happening.

01:46:20.000 And I have to say, I have received hundreds of thousands, literally, of emails.

01:46:25.000 I'm sure you get them too, Alex.

01:46:26.000 I don't have a national radio program, so I'm getting these on the basis of people who are concerned about customer privacy, about their personal privacy, and about how corporations are invading that.

01:46:37.000 And I can tell you, reading those emails, there's a real shift.

01:46:40.000 I'm encouraged by the RFID issue because I think it's going to push all of those buttons, even for people who are maybe not aware of other types or forms of tyranny going on in our society right now.

01:46:52.000 I think that when people become aware of the fact that there are plans afoot to put microchip implants in human beings, to put microchip implants...

01:46:59.000 Yeah, well, I can't speak to that, but I can definitely say... No, no, no, they say we have the European distributor, Reverachip, on months before it was announced in Mexico that their judicial people all have to get it.

01:47:11.000 I mean, you don't have to, but then you can't go to work.

01:47:14.000 And then now Italy's calling for it.

01:47:16.000 They're talking about making police take it.

01:47:18.000 This is mainstream news, Catherine.

01:47:20.000 Well, and you know, it's interesting.

01:47:21.000 There's a difference between forcibly and coercively.

01:47:24.000 And I think definitely there will be coercive methods like we're seeing with the toll booth in Illinois.

01:47:29.000 Or you get a third off if you have a customer loyalty card.

01:47:32.000 That's not really true, but there's that perception.

01:47:34.000 Or the toll road is double if you don't have the chip.

01:47:37.000 Right.

01:47:37.000 Or now they want to put black boxes in cars and give you an insurance discount if they can monitor your driving habits.

01:47:42.000 So things like that.

01:47:43.000 I think definitely there will be incentives.

01:47:45.000 I think definitely they're going to be... Well, they don't want to do it.

01:47:47.000 Progressive's been doing that program for two years.

01:47:49.000 Well, I think it'll be a carrot and a stick approach no matter what it is.

01:47:54.000 But what I did want to say is that I'm encouraged about the RFID issue because I've been hacking away at this territory for about five years now.

01:48:01.000 And only since RFID has come up have I seen people write to me and say, you know what, I've had it.

01:48:06.000 I've put up with this for years and years, and this is just the last straw.

01:48:09.000 They must stop.

01:48:11.000 And the sense I get about it is almost like, you know how the forest or the leaves rustle in a certain way before a storm?

01:48:17.000 I have that feeling.

01:48:18.000 Oh, I use that analogy in my film, Matrix of Evil, how the mice and wolves and squirrels know 12 hours before a hurricane's coming, but the people don't.

01:48:27.000 But really, we do have that little deep down feeling.

01:48:30.000 And yes, it is there.

01:48:32.000 And here's my good news, Catherine.

01:48:33.000 I say this every week because it's the best news I've got.

01:48:35.000 Five, six years ago on radio, half the callers disagreed with me on one radio station.

01:48:41.000 Now I'm on dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of stations in big cities, small towns, liberal conservative stations.

01:48:49.000 No one calls in to disagree.

01:48:51.000 Maybe once a week if I'm lucky, I beg for it.

01:48:53.000 We don't screen calls.

01:48:54.000 But not just my own show, Catherine.

01:48:56.000 On other people's broadcasts.

01:48:58.000 I've done, last time I quit counting, 1,600 plus interviews in the last three years.

01:49:03.000 And what experience have you had in interviews?

01:49:07.000 I've had the exact same thing.

01:49:08.000 People call up and say, wow, thank goodness somebody's getting a word out about this.

01:49:13.000 I have never had anyone say RFID doesn't exist.

01:49:16.000 I think anyone who takes the time to look on the internet can see that you've got some of the biggest corporations in the world involved.

01:49:22.000 What I do get, though, is a what should we do?

01:49:24.000 A what is the next move?

01:49:26.000 And that's where I know people are ready.

01:49:28.000 Let's talk about what we do when we get back.

01:49:32.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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01:52:47.000 I actually disagree with Catherine Aldrich at one point.

01:53:00.000 She says there's a difference between forced and coerced.

01:53:03.000 Bye.

01:53:04.000 I mean, that's how they controlled slaves in ancient times was no job, no food.

01:53:08.000 You know, that's how they controlled them.

01:53:09.000 Well, to say, you don't work here at the Justice Department anymore in Mexico City, 116 out of the 300 of them took it, you've got to have this chip to get in the building.

01:53:18.000 I mean, that is forced, folks.

01:53:20.000 You lose your job, you lose your livelihood.

01:53:22.000 But I meant forced is coming.

01:53:25.000 But we're about to go to Charlotte and Mike and Vince and Melissa and Keith and many others.

01:53:30.000 We've got another guest coming up, but we'll get to your calls as well.

01:53:33.000 I always want to thank Catherine Albrecht for coming on the broadcast.

01:53:35.000 Catherine, let's go ahead and take a call.

01:53:38.000 Well, you can respond to me disagreeing with you if you want.

01:53:41.000 No, I think that's fine.

01:53:42.000 I mean, do you see my point?

01:53:44.000 Yeah, no, I, I, definitely there's arm twisting.

01:53:47.000 And, and, you know, we're splitting semantic hairs, I think, in terms of how you want to, what you want to call it.

01:53:52.000 Well, let's say this, it's crossing the line.

01:53:54.000 It's starting to cross the Rubicon into Forrest.

01:53:57.000 I would absolutely agree with you on that.

01:53:59.000 Doubling your, your, your toll, or your ability, the cost to drive on a road in Illinois, or causing you to lose your job if you don't take an implant.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, those are, those are definitely coercive, and they cross the line.

01:54:08.000 I can't believe we're talking like this!

01:54:10.000 I know, it's... I mean, it's happening!

01:54:12.000 They're here, folks, and they're taking over!

01:54:15.000 It's like, you know, at the end of the first Body Snatchers movie, with the guys running around screaming, unless I've done better, you know, it's... I often have that feeling, Alex.

01:54:24.000 No, we should.

01:54:25.000 I mean, folks, the bizarroness of this.

01:54:28.000 Okay, Charlotte in Virginia.

01:54:30.000 Charlotte, welcome.

01:54:32.000 Thank you for having me on, Mr. Jones.

01:54:34.000 Thank you.

01:54:36.000 Uh, unfortunately, um, my subject wasn't on the, uh... Well, that's okay.

01:54:40.000 Whatever you're talking about, I'm sure it feeds into this.

01:54:42.000 Okay, well, I'm not going to Walmart anymore, that's for sure.

01:54:46.000 Okay, um, I called the FAA in Charleston, West Virginia this morning because of a jet that, uh, came over my house last night and circled for about five minutes.

01:54:59.000 And I wanted the people to know what this person told me.

01:55:03.000 It was a Mr. Lagan.

01:55:06.000 And he said, quote, there were MOAs, Military Operational Activities, also known as Military Maneuvers, in this area.

01:55:15.000 And he continued to say there were things that were going to start happening.

01:55:21.000 Unfortunately, he could not discuss these things.

01:55:25.000 And how low was this jet?

01:55:28.000 Well, it was low enough to clip That is totally illegal.

01:55:38.000 You're not supposed to fly that low but on military reservations.

01:55:41.000 So basically you're asleep and this is what you hear.

01:55:45.000 Well, I was listening to you.

01:55:47.000 That's pretty good.

01:55:54.000 And then it comes back.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, I was listening to you.

01:55:58.000 I'm sorry.

01:56:04.000 That's a good imitation, it really is.

01:56:06.000 Tell it to me at my house!

01:56:11.000 Walk outside the freezer and go, wow, wow, wow!

01:56:13.000 Guy flips you off, ha, ha, ha, ha!

01:56:15.000 Aims a machine gun at you, flies off and... I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:56:18.000 Okay, um, he did say, too, that he knew that some military jets from other countries, such as Czechoslovakia, were sold to private owners in the United States.

01:56:30.000 And then he started to tell me what color the planes were.

01:56:35.000 Like, gray was for Navy, green... And so he says the military's doing maneuvers, but if you see foreign planes, those aren't ours.

01:56:42.000 Right.

01:56:43.000 I also asked him to... Hey, I'll tell you what, I'm going to put you on hold, Charlotte, because I'm going to come back to you later.

01:56:50.000 Can you hold?

01:56:51.000 I want to hear more about this.

01:56:51.000 Sure.

01:56:52.000 Alright, Catherine, can you stay five more minutes with us so we can finish up with a few calls?

01:56:56.000 I sure can, Alex.

01:56:57.000 Okay, I'm sorry about the jet imitation.

01:57:00.000 It was fun.

01:57:01.000 I don't mind the helicopters dropping by my house, but a few years ago they dropped by my parents' house and harassed my mother and flipped her off.

01:57:08.000 And then we called because my dad's a pilot and found out what they were doing and it was just basic harassment.

01:57:13.000 I don't even have to live with my parents in forever, but they were just off harassing my parents. 0.96

01:57:16.000 It's all part of the new freedom, isn't it, Catherine?

01:57:21.000 Have you had any of that at your house?

01:57:23.000 I have not yet.

01:57:24.000 I'm not looking forward to it.

01:57:27.000 Alright.

01:57:28.000 Well, we'll be right back and we'll talk to Mike in Arizona and a few others.

01:57:31.000 Then we're going to get another guest on and we'll continue also with Charlotte.

01:57:36.000 What a nice name, Charlotte.

01:57:37.000 All right, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 We are chronicling the criminal activities of the global elite, also known as the New World Order stinkers.

01:58:16.000 Putting it lightly, Catherine Albrecht.

01:58:18.000 Final little segment with her.

01:58:20.000 I want to thank her for joining us.

01:58:21.000 Caspian, exposing the microchips, the tracker systems, the RFID, all of it.

01:58:26.000 The Casual Society Control Surveillance Enslavement Grid.

01:58:30.000 And let's go to a few final calls for her.

01:58:32.000 Then we've got another guest coming up.

01:58:33.000 We'll finish up with Charlotte being visited by the loving Jet Aircraft.

01:58:38.000 Mike in Arizona, you're on the air, sir.

01:58:41.000 Yes, thank you both for an interesting discussion.

01:58:44.000 Miss Albrecht, Have you been able to ascertain exactly who has been pushing this agenda?

01:58:51.000 I have a hard time feeling it's the manager at my local Walmart that wants this.

01:59:00.000 Are these the board members of Walmart?

01:59:03.000 Well, you need a little bit of history to understand it.

01:59:06.000 I mean, let me just throw this in.

01:59:08.000 She's gone to the big symposiums with thousands of reps and it's big corporations, the Defense Department, MIT.

01:59:15.000 I'll stop.

01:59:15.000 Go ahead.

01:59:16.000 I think part of it is driven by the fact that the corporations have become large and global.

01:59:22.000 And one of the problems that you have when you become big and unwieldy and bureaucratic and you're sprawling all over the world is you have a difficult time keeping track of all your dominoes and your marbles.

01:59:32.000 And that's what's happening to Walmart and to a lot of these multinational corporations.

01:59:38.000 They're losing stuff.

01:59:39.000 They're moving things all over the world in shipping containers and in crates and on trucks and in warehouses and they're losing it.

01:59:49.000 The plan really was simply to say, can we find a way to more effectively track our inventory?

01:59:54.000 Yeah, the engineers doing it weren't bad, but now they admit it's going to be for surveillance and control.

01:59:59.000 Yeah, so I'll take that at face value, but of course once you create such a powerful technology and the possibility gets out there that you could potentially track every physical item on the planet with its own unique number in real time all the time through the internet, then of course other people start coming out of the woodwork and become extremely interested in using that.

02:00:16.000 Well, that sounds like revelation.

02:00:20.000 It sounds like, you know, Revelation, the last book in the Bible.

02:00:25.000 You mean tracking everything?

02:00:26.000 Everything having its own number, yes.

02:00:29.000 Well, Revelation talks about every person having a unique number, but of course that's the long-term application of the RFID chipping.

02:00:36.000 Is that instead of putting these on all, well, in addition to putting these on all the products, they will put them on all of the people and allow the people each to have a unique ID number and be tracked through.

02:00:44.000 Well, there's safety.

02:00:46.000 They're already proposing the national ID card right now.

02:00:48.000 Mike, anything else?

02:00:49.000 Yes, your impression then is that this is just, this started out innocent and just kind of went awry or someone else kind of insinuated themselves into the matter.

02:01:01.000 Well, I can tell you, you know, I know personally that the people who founded this at the Auto-ID Center, I mean, I won't say they're friends of mine, but I certainly have had conversations with them, I've talked to them, I know their stories, I know how they came to this, and it's possible that other folks who had an extreme interest even at those early phases when they heard what was possible, but I think that you usually don't get that.

02:01:21.000 You know, part of it is that you have to develop the technology first, and in 1999 when these guys started, the technology did not yet exist.

02:01:28.000 And it was really unknown whether they would be able to pull it off.

02:01:31.000 So I think at that point it would be kind of silly for some major global interest to put that together.

02:01:37.000 Catherine, I have a book written in 95 by Tex Marr, a professor of space and aeronautics and military affairs, and he talks about RFID and has the plans from 1993 for this.

02:01:50.000 You might want to get in touch with him.

02:01:52.000 I will do that.

02:01:52.000 Would that be a revelation for you?

02:01:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:01:54.000 What about the Navy developing the first RFID and then giving it to the Japanese?

02:01:59.000 Believe me, Catherine, It gets worse.

02:02:02.000 Thank you both.

02:02:03.000 Mike, what do you think about the comments I just made?

02:02:07.000 I'm not at all surprised.

02:02:10.000 I had a feeling there was probably an ulterior motive from day one with this technology.

02:02:15.000 The people at Walmart may have been totally innocent in their plans for it, but I'm sure the developers I have always had other things in mind.

02:02:26.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:02:27.000 Catherine, thanks a million for coming on with me.

02:02:29.000 You're a wonderful person.

02:02:30.000 Yeah, glad to do it.

02:02:31.000 Oh, and real quick, if people would like to get a copy of the video that talks about this so they can show it to their friends.

02:02:37.000 Stay there.

02:02:38.000 Got to plug it on the other side, my dear.

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02:05:59.000 We're about to discuss police intelligence squads with Christopher Pyle, a former U.S.

02:06:04.000 Army intelligence agent, who blew the whistle on the secret program in nationally televised Senate hearings on the Vietnam era activities in the 1970s.

02:06:15.000 We're honored to have him.

02:06:16.000 We held Catherine Albrecht of Caspian on talking about the RFID chips where they again double tax you to drop through tolls if you don't have it.

02:06:23.000 They want to put it in all the products.

02:06:25.000 She's got a video out on this and she wants to tell you about it and I've seen it.

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02:06:30.000 Catherine, how do folks get that?

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02:07:12.000 I also wanted to say thank you to Mike and Derek, both of whom, after listening to me on your show, Alex, wrote letters to Gillette, to Dick Cantwell, the head of their RFID program, to say they don't want RFID tags in there.

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02:07:54.000 Take care, Kathryn.

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02:07:58.000 Now, the next guest here, we're honored to have him.

02:08:01.000 Look, two weeks before it was in the Daily Texan, a month before it was in the Wall Street Journal, I'm not tooting our horn, people have trouble believing this, I got word, went down and talked to people at UT, and it was confirmed, it wasn't two, it wasn't five, it was dozens of young men and women Marching around in suits, threatening people, trying to tell people not to have peace demonstrations, going to the law school, threatening the dean, demanding videotaped seminars.

02:08:28.000 It all started when military came and was proselytizing and brainwashing.

02:08:33.000 They're at the university and people stood up against them, so then they brought out all their thugs.

02:08:37.000 I've been to symposiums, the last one called the five-part New World Order series.

02:08:42.000 They had former CIA directors and generals and all these people there talking about how wonderful the national ID card was and how we're in World War IV.

02:08:50.000 Now we've got to have a new world order.

02:08:51.000 It was called New World Order. 0.59

02:08:52.000 And I have people in short haircuts and suits bumping into me and saying, you can't film.

02:08:56.000 Everybody else is filming and threatening me and following me out the parking lot.

02:09:00.000 And I go, you're military intelligence, aren't you? 0.99

02:09:02.000 Shut up, Jones! 0.97

02:09:04.000 I mean, we even have video of this. 1.00

02:09:05.000 We've heard it locally on television.

02:09:08.000 And then it came out in the Wall Street Journal and the rest of it.

02:09:10.000 And that kind of feeds into what our next guest is here about.

02:09:13.000 Police squads under federal control.

02:09:15.000 Secret federal squads.

02:09:17.000 The Hercules team is under federal control in New York, and this gentleman is uniquely qualified to talk about this, Christopher Pyle, former U.S.

02:09:25.000 Army intelligence agent who blew the whistle on the secret program in nationally televised Senate hearings on the Vietnam era activities.

02:09:33.000 Sir, thank you for joining us.

02:09:35.000 Thank you for inviting me.

02:09:36.000 I appreciate you holding to that diatribe.

02:09:38.000 Tell us a little bit about yourself and your knowledge of this, and now how widespread this new wave of East German activity has gotten.

02:09:47.000 Well, my background is ancient history, really.

02:09:51.000 I was in US Army Intelligence.

02:09:53.000 I was a captain.

02:09:54.000 I taught at the US Army Intelligence School.

02:09:56.000 I taught law to counterintelligence agents.

02:09:59.000 And while there, learned of the Army's domestic surveillance of civilian politics.

02:10:05.000 I disclosed the existence of that surveillance and I investigated

02:10:10.000 I recruited 125 counterintelligence agents to tell what they knew about the surveillance to members of Congress, the courts, and the press in 1970-1971 and worked the Senator Ervin Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights and later Senator Church's Select Committee on Intelligence and we managed to persuade the Army to discontinue that surveillance and to abolish the U.S.

02:10:37.000 Army Intelligence Command And to destroy all the files.

02:10:42.000 And I monitored the destruction of the files and was confident that the files from that era were destroyed.

02:10:48.000 Well, let me just say, sir, you're a true patriot.

02:10:51.000 Well, thank you.

02:10:53.000 But the bottom line is this, that entire system is back and much, much larger.

02:11:02.000 So whatever we accomplished in the era of Watergate, Is now ancient history we are faced with a set of problems that are much worse.

02:11:11.000 So it's like that comic book bad guy who you can defeat him but he just comes back stronger.

02:11:16.000 Price of liberty is eternal vigilance as you know.

02:11:19.000 Now you just heard my story and I have video of it.

02:11:22.000 It's also been in national news.

02:11:24.000 Is that freedom where you go to the LBJ presidential library and sit there and then troops selectively come over and start bumping into you and shoving you and pushing you?

02:11:34.000 Well, that's never happened to me.

02:11:36.000 I was on Nixon's enemies list.

02:11:41.000 I don't know much of army intelligence people ever doing that in the 1970s.

02:11:47.000 Did you hear about UT with the men going around harassing people?

02:11:51.000 Well, I heard the story that a couple of army agents had gone to UT to ask about the organizers of a conference on sex and Islam.

02:12:05.000 And they were agents of the U.S.

02:12:07.000 Army Intelligence and Security Command.

02:12:11.000 And they had gone because a couple of, apparently, Army lawyers had attended the conference and had been accosted by somebody they thought suspicious.

02:12:21.000 And so they had told their commanders and their commanders had then sent interviewers over there.

02:12:27.000 I talked to the Army Intelligence and Security Command people about that.

02:12:33.000 and uh... they said it should not have happened and uh... they had sent out orders that it won't happen again.

02:12:39.000 Well what I'm telling you is... A similar operation happened at Drake University and there seems to be some pressure on the Army Intelligence and Security Command including some proposed legislation in Congress that would bring back the kind of massive surveillance of the nineteen seventies.

02:12:56.000 In the nineteen seventies There were about 1,500 Army intelligence agents, plainclothes agents, working out of some 300 offices coast to coast, monitoring every demonstration of 20 people or more.

02:13:10.000 That's the system we stopped, and there are many people in the military who do not want to return to that.

02:13:16.000 There's also a great deal of pressure on them to do it.

02:13:19.000 Much of this pressure is coming from the U.S.

02:13:21.000 Army Northern Command.

02:13:26.000 General Eberhardt!

02:13:27.000 Yeah.

02:13:28.000 By the way, let me just stop you, sir.

02:13:30.000 You're on the radio right now in Colorado Springs on a local AM station, so you can say hi to Mr. Eberhardt and his little squad there.

02:13:39.000 And I just wanted to add that he was in the LA Times saying, the Army doesn't watch you, but the Pentagon does.

02:13:45.000 And I wanted to go back to the UT thing and tell you, we have video of this.

02:13:49.000 What you saw in the Wall Street Journal is only the tip of the iceberg.

02:13:53.000 What I'm telling you is, is they're swarming all over Austin, driving around in black sedans, harassing people, going to peace demonstrations, you name it, and it's very overt.

02:14:05.000 Why would someone own a black sedan in a place as warm as Austin?

02:14:09.000 That doesn't suggest a great deal of intelligence to me.

02:14:13.000 Well, yeah, you'd think intelligence guys would be driving something nondescript, but no, no, they're very obvious.

02:14:20.000 Um, well, are you sure you know which agency they're part of?

02:14:24.000 There are multiple agencies that are involved in this.

02:14:24.000 Oh, yes!

02:14:27.000 No, no, we found out that it was, quote, a group from Army Intelligence.

02:14:31.000 And we actually had police run the tags on some of the cars, so.

02:14:35.000 I know police that did run tags.

02:14:35.000 Okay.

02:14:36.000 Put it to you that way.

02:14:38.000 Alright.

02:14:39.000 Well, that would be interesting to know, and I'd like to see that in print and get that out.

02:14:44.000 I'll tell you what, Kevin Smith is listening to this show.

02:14:47.000 Kevin, if you're listening today, which you usually are, you're the one that got the video.

02:14:51.000 Can you call in?

02:14:52.000 I just want you to tell this guy about it.

02:14:53.000 Perhaps give him your address.

02:14:54.000 You can mail him that, Kevin.

02:14:56.000 But, no, they really had, what was it, a four or five part series.

02:14:59.000 I went to three of them.

02:15:01.000 And they had former directors of the CIA, former NSA chiefs, all these people were coming and then there's these, we've got this general, what's his name?

02:15:11.000 He's over UT now in the Homeland Security Department.

02:15:15.000 What is his name?

02:15:17.000 He's a former three-star general.

02:15:19.000 General Magus?

02:15:21.000 I don't know him.

02:15:22.000 Yeah, and he's there and these guys are always around him.

02:15:25.000 Well, when you say that you went to a conference and there were former CIA people and others there, you may have been encountering a number of security people on detail.

02:15:36.000 That's something different from the surveillance of civilian politics that I encountered in the 1960s and 70s and that I'm concerned is reviving In response to the so-called War on Terrorism.

02:15:53.000 Well, I'll stop running over you, but let me just add this.

02:15:55.000 My cousin's always been overseas Special Forces.

02:15:57.000 Now they took Bergstrom, made it an airport for the general public, but left a third of it for the military, and he's there merging the Texas Guard with the National Guard, with the regular Army, and he admitted that every night they're out in helicopters, quote, assisting the police Well, that issue came up when the snipers were killing people in the Washington D.C.

02:16:16.000 And they wanted to use an FBI plane to see if they could pick up a white van on the streets of D.C.

02:16:16.000 area.

02:16:19.000 and quote, "for assistance they can do that." Were you aware of those developments?

02:16:24.000 Well, that issue came up when the snipers were killing people in the Washington, D.C. area.

02:16:31.000 And they wanted to use an FBI plane to see if they could pick up a white van on the streets of D.C.

02:16:38.000 And there was a serious question which the Army attorneys addressed as to whether this was within the limits of posse comitatus.

02:16:48.000 The opinion within the Pentagon was significantly split on that question.

02:16:55.000 I thought it was okay, so long as it didn't make a habit of it.

02:16:58.000 But what you seem to be describing is something that is becoming more habitual.

02:17:03.000 And if that's the case, then I think it is a clear violation of posse comitatus.

02:17:08.000 In the FBI plane case, That was a loaned aircraft, flown by military personnel, but all the surveillance work was done by the Bureau.

02:17:16.000 So that wasn't, arguably, was not a breach of the line between Civil and military roles in law enforcement.

02:17:25.000 Okay, we're honored to have Christopher Pye along with us.

02:17:29.000 When we get back, sir, I'm going to kind of shut up here for a minute and let you get into what you know they're doing right now and why you think it's a bad idea as a former U.S.

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02:22:17.000 We're talking about police intelligence squads with Christopher Pyle, a former U.S.

02:22:21.000 Army intelligence agent who blew the whistle and brought forward over a hundred other Army intelligence officers to expose this with the Church Committee, which did so much good, which we had that today.

02:22:30.000 I would just add this, get his take on it, and let him get into details.

02:22:34.000 In my film Road to Tyranny, I have a Marine Corps officer now, business owner here in town.

02:22:40.000 He showed me the photos, all of it.

02:22:42.000 In 1989, in the Marine Corps, regular Marine Corps officer, he was assigned to the local police department with the BATF to raid gun shop dealers' homes.

02:22:52.000 And that's how long this has been going on covertly, and I don't know if Mr. Pyle was aware of stuff like that going on quietly behind the scenes for decades?

02:23:01.000 No, I'm not aware of any Marine units being assigned to ATF to raid Civilian homes, and that's what the Posse Comitatus deals with, but the Marines would have jurisdiction to raid the homes of military personnel in connection with ATF?

02:23:20.000 No, and these were not military personnel, but that's just the kind of stuff we've got, you know, the kind of information, and I've actually had the former JAG officer over this stuff on a few years ago, and he said that basically since 96, Posse Comitatus has been gone.

02:23:35.000 Well, posse comitatus has so many holes in it you could drive a convoy through.

02:23:40.000 And we really need to think about that.

02:23:43.000 I think of posse comitatus as a kind of form of constitutional law.

02:23:49.000 I wish the framers had put that into the Constitution because that's a basic founding principle that the military should not be involved in civilian law enforcement.

02:24:00.000 And one concern I have with the Northern Command is that they had ads circulating

02:24:06.000 about a year ago looking for analysts, intelligence analysts who would provide what they call actionable intelligence that would help the Northern Command not simply deal with a terrorist incident after it occurred but would help the command prevent one from happening now when you do that as a military unit what you're doing is essentially preparing roundup lists

02:24:34.000 of people who will be detained in advance of a terrorist incident.

02:24:41.000 And I don't think the Northern Command has any jurisdiction, whatever, to be compiling watch lists or round-up lists on people.

02:24:51.000 Their job is to support civilian first responders when dealing with the effects of a terrorist attack, Well, sir, that's new to me.

02:24:59.000 Now, we just caught him last month with a Northern Command ad looking for people to carry out psychological operations overseas and here and, quote, deception operations.

02:25:08.000 These are ads, folks, that they're putting out.

02:25:11.000 Now, I don't understand why Northern Command would have an ad for psych ops overseas because it has no jurisdiction overseas.

02:25:18.000 It may have been another unit you were looking at.

02:25:20.000 No, no, no.

02:25:21.000 No, we actually had an Associated Press reporter on.

02:25:23.000 This was actually in the news.

02:25:24.000 This was like two weeks ago.

02:25:25.000 But, uh, but, but, but... Well, and the Northern Command is really exceeding its mission, isn't it?

02:25:30.000 Yes, they are.

02:25:31.000 But what you just brought up was new.

02:25:32.000 Roundup list.

02:25:33.000 Now that's, woo, boy!

02:25:34.000 Tell me about that.

02:25:36.000 Well, what I'm saying is that if you hire analysts to collect actionable intelligence to prevent attacks, Then you've got to compile roundup lists.

02:25:51.000 Army Intelligence did that in the 1960s.

02:25:52.000 It had something called a blacklist.

02:25:56.000 Blacklist? 0.56

02:25:57.000 I'm sorry, but we're talking about pre-crime here.

02:26:00.000 That's right.

02:26:01.000 Sounds like the movies, doesn't it?

02:26:02.000 So, repeat what you said.

02:26:04.000 You said blacklist.

02:26:05.000 Go ahead.

02:26:05.000 Well, in the 1960s, Army Intelligence had a set of mug books of persons active in civil disorders.

02:26:13.000 And that was effectively a roundup list, because it enabled them to identify people who might cause trouble at a demonstration.

02:26:22.000 But when you're dealing with terrorism, you then want to round these people up before they strike.

02:26:30.000 That means you have to create a watch list.

02:26:32.000 And it seemed to me that's what those advertisements for analysts were looking for.

02:26:37.000 Because you don't need analysts if you're doing the cleanup afterwards.

02:26:43.000 uh... people who can uh... come and do the cleanup uh... you don't need uh... to know the names of anybody just as nineteen sixties army intelligence didn't need to know the names of anybody involved in a riot because its job was simply to clear the streets and force a curfew and then let civilian police take over from there so i'm concerned that northern command Maybe exceeding its jurisdiction.

02:27:11.000 I don't have a lot of information on it, but these are indicators that concern me.

02:27:16.000 I'll tell you what, stay right there.

02:27:17.000 We've got a long segment coming up.

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02:31:10.000 We're honored to have a gentleman Christopher Pyle, former U.S.

02:31:15.000 Army intelligence officer, agent, who blew the whistle on the secret program in nationally televised Senate hearings on the Vietnam era activities.

02:31:23.000 And that was back in the 70s.

02:31:25.000 They said, look, you're not going to have the CIA going around domestically.

02:31:28.000 You're not going to have all the military doing this.

02:31:29.000 This is wrong.

02:31:31.000 And then now it's back.

02:31:32.000 Bush doesn't even want Congress to have oversight.

02:31:34.000 He wants to have an executive order to make the CIA this new super domestic agency.

02:31:40.000 It's all been codified, but some points you brought up, sir.

02:31:43.000 You talked about these blacklists and these dossiers.

02:31:48.000 That meshes in with the Caps 2 and the no-fly list and all these senators and congressmen and peace activists and conservative activists.

02:31:56.000 People with no criminal records, now they're saying hundreds of thousands, on this list.

02:32:01.000 You can't get off the list, it's very hard to get off of it, and then you show back up on it.

02:32:06.000 You know, we have that going on preemptively and then the wrong people's names accidentally do show up on it.

02:32:12.000 And then we also have protesters, I have hundreds of photos all over the country with the military out with telephoto lenses taking photos of people.

02:32:20.000 Can you comment on all of this?

02:32:23.000 Well, I don't think the photographs really help the military or anybody else very much.

02:32:29.000 My greater concern

02:32:32.000 is with computer capabilities and internet communications even if September 11th had not happened we are developing the capacity for essentially the kind of police state that not even the Gestapo or the KGB could have imagined and it can be run by people with the very best of intentions because today what used to take an FBI agent or an army agent

02:33:02.000 Weeks of door knocking to collect can be collected remotely by computer in a nanosecond.

02:33:10.000 This information on personal, the personal political activities or economic activities, financial activities of people goes into a number of computers.

02:33:21.000 It gets shared with other agencies.

02:33:23.000 It goes down what is the equivalent of the Great Alaska Pipeline, fiber optic pipeline.

02:33:30.000 From one computer to another.

02:33:33.000 And it's not just the 15 federal agencies or the 2,000 state agencies that are collecting and sharing this information.

02:33:41.000 We now collect and share it with scores of foreign intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

02:33:49.000 And if a piece of garbage about you or me gets into this pipeline, it's going to settle down into scores of data banks, computer data banks.

02:34:03.000 You and I can never get that information removed. 0.83

02:34:05.000 It's not like a bad credit report because we have the Fair Credit Reporting Act that protects us from that.

02:34:12.000 We can't see this stuff.

02:34:13.000 We can't get it corrected.

02:34:15.000 And even if a few agencies correct it, that information is going to arise out of other Let me give you an example, and you're absolutely right.

02:34:23.000 Of course, the state level of the NSA doing this is called the Matrix System, and everything goes into this.

02:34:29.000 But, say, I have a last name Jones.

02:34:31.000 It's pretty common.

02:34:32.000 There's always some other Alex Jones with some bad credit thing.

02:34:36.000 Every time I go buy something on credit, I have to get letters from whoever it is saying, no, this isn't he, isn't the guy, but still my credit score doesn't change.

02:34:45.000 That's an example of mistakes right there.

02:34:47.000 Another example of that is Senator Edward Kennedy, who was stopped on several occasions at airports and held up from getting onto the airplane which he's flown for 42 years between Massachusetts and Washington.

02:35:04.000 There's another Congressman out there!

02:35:05.000 Because Edward Kennedy, another Edward Kennedy, was on a watch list.

02:35:09.000 And even though you could recognize Ted Kennedy in a flash, and you knew exactly who he was, The bureaucrats who ran the screening system at the airport didn't want to let him on because they were afraid they'd get into trouble letting an Edward Kennedy get on their airplane.

02:35:27.000 Well I forget the name, but last week another congressman complained for two months every time he has trouble flying.

02:35:33.000 Now what's that congressman's name?

02:35:36.000 So what's happening to two members of the Congress?

02:35:39.000 This must be happening to a lot of people.

02:35:41.000 Well if it isn't, it will.

02:35:43.000 And that's a serious problem.

02:35:46.000 And in the enthusiasm to share intelligence, nobody is paying attention to keeping the garbage out of the system.

02:35:54.000 My old boss, Senator Sam Ervin, used to speak of the GEIGO principle. 0.99

02:35:58.000 Garbage in, garbage out. 0.98

02:36:02.000 And computers are built on the garbage principle. 0.99

02:36:05.000 They will collect a lot of garbage.

02:36:07.000 Imagine this, though. 0.55

02:36:08.000 Let's assume that the intelligence agencies were accurate 99% of the time.

02:36:15.000 And we have a thousand terrorists in the United States.

02:36:19.000 Intelligence agencies would pick up 990 of those guys.

02:36:21.000 That would be pretty good.

02:36:23.000 We'd say, wow, they've done a good job.

02:36:26.000 But you've got to complete the math.

02:36:29.000 If they have a 1% error rate, then they are improperly, inaccurately... 3 million people.

02:36:37.000 Yes.

02:36:38.000 You got it.

02:36:42.000 290 million people, folks, so... That's serious, is it not?

02:36:47.000 That's deadly serious.

02:36:48.000 And this could have happened without 9-11.

02:36:52.000 We are being googled in a variety of ways.

02:36:56.000 Well, exactly, that's the thing about this, that even if we have little angels in the government, They're still going to make mistakes, and now they're getting more and more information, and instead of specifically targeting the heads of the networks, they're going to throw up this protective screen and basically make us all live in glass houses and be slaves, and it doesn't even protect us.

02:37:17.000 But I mean, you're being nice about this, and most military people I've talked to who are in this are horrified, they're freaked out, they're intelligent, they're informed, they know they're compartmentalized.

02:37:25.000 I mean, current people, folks.

02:37:27.000 You know, showing up with manila envelopes on a weekly basis now.

02:37:31.000 But with all of this going on, with all of this happening, We have Section 802 of the Patriot Act that changes the definition of domestic terrorism to any action that endangers human life that's a violation of any federal or state law.

02:37:44.000 And in every article we cover here on Homeland Security, folks, literally every day I read them, I read one earlier, it says we're going to fight terrorism and crime.

02:37:51.000 The cameras for terrorism and crime.

02:37:53.000 So now they're saying they're going to use these databases even for suspicion of petty crimes and there's no warrants, no Fourth Amendment involved and it's for the most petty stuff.

02:38:03.000 Your comments on that?

02:38:04.000 I couldn't agree with you more.

02:38:08.000 By tearing down the walls of separation that were created in the 1970s, we have essentially destroyed the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution.

02:38:18.000 That's the amendment that protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures.

02:38:22.000 We should have a requiem mass for the Fourth Amendment because it is dead.

02:38:26.000 And it is the greatest protection we have, other than the habeas statute, against arbitrary government.

02:38:35.000 And in the enthusiasm to fight terrorism.

02:38:38.000 We're breaking that down.

02:38:39.000 But the enthusiasm to fight foreign terrorism is one thing.

02:38:43.000 To merge it with the idea of domestic terrorism, and then to merge domestic terrorists with protesters at political party conventions are breathtaking leaps that create the kind of dragnet surveillance that we had in the 1960s and 70s.

02:39:02.000 And it so embarrassed the FBI and military intelligence and several other agencies.

02:39:09.000 But, I mean, to the FBI and CIA, we know there's good guys in both these organizations, in defense intelligence and the rest of it.

02:39:15.000 I mean, I've heard that they're telling their bosses, why do you have me following peace activists around?

02:39:21.000 Why do you have me out here using the Patriot Act on a pot dealer?

02:39:25.000 If you want me to stop terrorists, stop having me run out and fight a billion fires that don't have anything to do with real threats!

02:39:33.000 Yes, and this I, as an intelligence officer, I find extremely serious.

02:39:40.000 After 9-11, the first thing that John Ashcroft, our Attorney General, did was to order the FBI to conduct about 5,000 interviews with people of the Muslim faith.

02:39:55.000 This was an extraordinary waste of limited investigative resources.

02:40:02.000 It also had the effect of inhibiting members of that faith.

02:40:08.000 to come forward with whatever information they might have because they didn't know whether somebody they know would lose their visa status in the United States or the government would come down hard on them as governments do in other countries.

02:40:23.000 It was a very frightening thing to be approached by FBI agents and ask questions.

02:40:28.000 Are you loyal?

02:40:30.000 Do you know terrorists?

02:40:31.000 And so forth.

02:40:32.000 It was a waste of time.

02:40:33.000 It didn't produce a bit of usable intelligence and It inhibited the very people that intelligence agencies need the most.

02:40:43.000 Walk-in informants.

02:40:45.000 In a free society, you have the greatest of security because the public is willing to assist and to help.

02:40:54.000 In an unfree society, in an investigative society, in a surveillance society, people draw within themselves.

02:41:01.000 They don't help the authorities.

02:41:03.000 And the authorities have a much harder time going after legitimate targets.

02:41:08.000 Sir, let me get your response to Bush.

02:41:11.000 He said last night he's going to give Congress until today to review, though they have no authority, his new executive order to expand the CIA domestically and set these offices up and do all of this.

02:41:25.000 Your response to this new intelligence nightmare that, according to congressmen I've had on this show in the last month, no one in intelligence likes.

02:41:34.000 I mean, I've been told this.

02:41:35.000 No one they've talked to, no one, no one, no one at the mid and low levels is for this.

02:41:40.000 For what?

02:41:42.000 For this new super domestic intelligence czar, domestically.

02:41:48.000 Well, I don't know of the Bush has got a full-developed program for domestic intelligence.

02:41:57.000 I know there have been a variety of proposals for czars or their equivalents.

02:42:03.000 For a National Intelligence Director, there's been talk of Mueller setting up a unit within the FBI.

02:42:09.000 I think he's trying to do that that would handle domestic intelligence.

02:42:13.000 The Director of National Intelligence proposed by the 9-11 Commission is one that deals with international terrorism and intelligence primarily.

02:42:23.000 But these things are so complicated.

02:42:29.000 They require calm, rational thought.

02:42:33.000 They do not require diktats from presidents or diktats from majorities of congressional committees.

02:42:42.000 They require a lot of coordinated effort.

02:42:45.000 The legislative process is slow, and we're building for the long term.

02:42:49.000 We should take the time to go over these many proposals and work them out, and to build coalitions so that they're politically feasible.

02:42:57.000 But certainly it's a bad idea to have Congress being taken away from the oversight of this, and I would tell you I have a stack of mainstream articles, sir, where they plan to put CIA officers and liaison officers in every police department.

02:43:09.000 Well, I haven't heard of any... The CIA doesn't have that many personnel to be doing that, but The Joint Terrorism Task Forces essentially serve that function, and they're mainly FBI and local police.

02:43:23.000 I would doubt that the CIA will do it, and I would doubt that the CIA would allow Congress or the President to spread their resources that thin.

02:43:36.000 Again, I don't think that will work out.

02:43:37.000 Let's take a few.

02:43:38.000 Sir, we've got to take a few calls, and this has been riveting.

02:43:41.000 I've got to get you back, but stay right there.

02:43:43.000 Charlotte called earlier, and I put her on hold because I figured this call would be better for when you were on.

02:43:48.000 This is kind of a side issue.

02:43:49.000 More and more, the military is doing urban warfare drills and things in areas, dangerous things, and I don't know, it's part of an acclimation, according to Ram Corporation documents I've seen.

02:43:59.000 But Charlotte in Virginia, tell our retired Army intelligence officer what's been happening in your area just real fast.

02:44:09.000 Okay, last night there was a jet that flew over our house that was extremely low and this happened around midnight.

02:44:20.000 And this morning I called the FAA in Charleston, West Virginia.

02:44:25.000 And you said it was so low it knocked tops of the trees off?

02:44:28.000 No, I said it could have.

02:44:30.000 No, you said it clipped the trees.

02:44:35.000 It could have.

02:44:36.000 If there was any of these trees in its way, it could have.

02:44:40.000 Yeah, it was that low.

02:44:42.000 There's also a cell tower right behind my house.

02:44:44.000 So you called them and what did they say?

02:44:46.000 Okay, I asked if they knew what was going on, and Mr. Lagan said, quote, there were MOAs, Military Operational Activity, also known as military maneuvers in this area.

02:45:02.000 And then he went on to say there were things that were going to start happening.

02:45:07.000 Unfortunately, he could not discuss these things.

02:45:11.000 Okay, Brooke, thanks for the call.

02:45:12.000 I mean, not Brooke, Charlotte.

02:45:14.000 Brooke's up next.

02:45:15.000 And then I want to get a quick comment here from our guest.

02:45:18.000 That's probably separate from your area of knowledge, correct, sir?

02:45:21.000 Yes, but it's my understanding that military aircraft is supposed to stay above 600 feet, and that's much higher than most trees.

02:45:31.000 Mr.

02:45:33.000 Military units around the country train and practice.

02:45:37.000 I have them over my house all the time.

02:45:38.000 They're C-5As. 0.82

02:45:39.000 We've got some F-14s.

02:45:43.000 They're generally up at 1,000 or higher feet.

02:45:47.000 But they're practicing all the time for a variety of purposes.

02:45:51.000 Did you hear about the case in South Texas where a B-2 bomber dropped a 2,000 pound bomb on somebody's house?

02:45:58.000 No, but things like that can happen in any large military organization.

02:46:03.000 Anybody who's served in the armed forces knows that if something wrong can happen, it will happen eventually.

02:46:09.000 Absolutely, but Charlotte, I wouldn't worry.

02:46:12.000 I think they're just out on maneuvers, but they shouldn't be flying that low.

02:46:16.000 They like to hunt, though.

02:46:16.000 Absolutely, and they did lose their license to fly within the military, I think.

02:46:22.000 Yep.

02:46:22.000 Or identify.

02:46:23.000 Brooke in Rhode Island, go ahead.

02:46:25.000 You're on the air with our guest.

02:46:26.000 Welcome.

02:46:27.000 Hi Alex, it's hard to keep up with all this stuff.

02:46:30.000 Um, but I was wondering if you heard George Norrie on Wednesday night?

02:46:34.000 No.

02:46:35.000 He had a man named William Strauss on.

02:46:39.000 And William Strauss claimed to be a prophet.

02:46:42.000 I don't get into stuff like that.

02:46:44.000 Stick with the facts.

02:46:46.000 Well, you might be interested in this because it's kind of related to what you're speaking about.

02:46:52.000 First of all, William Strauss is a Harvard University professor.

02:46:57.000 And then William Strauss claimed he lived in Washington, D.C.

02:47:03.000 And then William Strauss was claiming certain things about cycles being scripted.

02:47:10.000 And I started really wondering about William Strauss.

02:47:14.000 Because William Strauss was predicting all kinds of bad things and things that you've been talking about and your guest is talking about.

02:47:23.000 I talk about them from the intelligence reports and the guests and the congressmen and whatever we have on.

02:47:27.000 I don't go off people who say they're prophets.

02:47:29.000 I'm sorry.

02:47:31.000 Well, Alex, what I'm trying to allude here is, could he be one of the controllers?

02:47:39.000 Listen, I appreciate your call, but we're almost out of time here.

02:47:42.000 I really, sir, this broadcast only sticks to what we can prove, and that's bad enough.

02:47:47.000 Any comments, sir?

02:47:49.000 Well, you might check on this person by running his name through Google, see what you come up with.

02:47:55.000 You'll probably come up with several William Strausses.

02:47:58.000 I know one.

02:47:59.000 He's a very responsible person, doesn't make prophecies of this sort.

02:48:04.000 But we're all in the business of making some prophecies based upon reasonable Uh, assessments.

02:48:10.000 Well, I would call those projections.

02:48:12.000 Yes, okay.

02:48:13.000 Uh, some are more prophetic than others.

02:48:16.000 Well, I tell you what, I want to get your projection for the next 365 days when we get back.

02:48:22.000 Uh, Mr. Pyle, and if I'm cutting the callers short, it's because I went too long without going to you, and I want to get Kevin and Keith and a few others in on the other side.

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02:52:26.000 What do you think we're going to see happen in the next year or two, sir?

02:52:35.000 My greatest concern, as I said before, is the gradual growth of computer surveillance.

02:52:42.000 If President Eisenhower were alive today, he wouldn't be warning us just of the military intelligence, the military-industrial complex.

02:52:51.000 He'd be warning us of a kind of international I don't think he'd use the word police state, but international surveillance capability.

02:53:01.000 And it would be built around computers and quite independent of any particular concern like terrorism.

02:53:07.000 And I think he'd be absolutely right.

02:53:09.000 My old boss, Sam Irvin, would certainly be standing right beside him, saying, we've got to find ways to limit the retention and the communication of personal information about law-abiding citizens.

02:53:24.000 We've not address that at all in our society.

02:53:27.000 There's no political support for that.

02:53:29.000 Well, you're saying the same thing that Catherine Albrecht said in the last hour about RFID.

02:53:33.000 Everything being loaded into computers, even if you don't use them, folks.

02:53:36.000 That's the point here, and it could be a new type of inquisition where you've done nothing but oh, the computer says it.

02:53:42.000 How do we get another church committee?

02:53:44.000 How do we get Congress to move and start subpoenaing people and making a big deal out of this?

02:53:50.000 I wish I knew, Alex, because if I knew, I'd be doing it.

02:53:54.000 Right now, we seem to be so riveted upon a few foreign terrorists, a few, very few in the United States, that we can't begin to think about the downside. 0.97

02:54:07.000 Yeah, they're killing America to save America. 0.83

02:54:09.000 It's a joke.

02:54:10.000 Kevin in California, thanks for holding her on the air with our guest, Christopher Pyle.

02:54:15.000 Nice talking to you again, Alex.

02:54:16.000 How you doing?

02:54:17.000 Good.

02:54:18.000 Yeah, well, one good thing I have.

02:54:20.000 To say about the computer surveillance aspect, if you want, you can go look at ICANN.org.

02:54:25.000 It's the Internet Association of Assigned Names and Numbers.

02:54:29.000 They're just now switching over to a new system called the IPv6 system, which, as normal IP numbers go, it's four sets of three digits.

02:54:39.000 Now we're going to six sets of three digits to where we can now basically put an IP address on every piece of sand on every beach in the world, every person, every Everything, including all the RFID chips we're going to be putting in everything.

02:54:56.000 Very bad!

02:54:57.000 This is where the focus should be.

02:54:58.000 I think that this is a politically neutral position to take.

02:55:04.000 You don't have to allege that there are controllers, that the government is out to destroy your liberty.

02:55:09.000 You don't have to allege anything.

02:55:11.000 You just have to say there's a technology here that needs to be brought under control.

02:55:16.000 The focus needs to be there.

02:55:17.000 Now, it's not terribly exciting, but it's crucially important.

02:55:22.000 And the public has to come to realize that the great benefits we get from computer technology carry with them long-term liabilities.

02:55:31.000 Double-edged sword!

02:55:32.000 Thanks for the call, Kevin.

02:55:33.000 Wonderful points.

02:55:35.000 Keith in Georgia.

02:55:36.000 Last caller.

02:55:36.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:55:37.000 Alex, very frightening show.

02:55:40.000 I've been studying this for over 30 years.

02:55:43.000 I know you're out of time.

02:55:45.000 The point is, the technology that you are utilizing to get the information out, they are utilizing to control us.

02:55:52.000 They know you're getting the word out.

02:55:54.000 They are moving very quickly now.

02:55:56.000 The last decade, the speed of the takeover is exponential.

02:56:01.000 People in the know that I know with money are getting out of the country now.

02:56:06.000 Let me leave you with that, buddy.

02:56:07.000 Wow, call me back on Monday when I'm in New York.

02:56:10.000 Mr. Pyle, thank you for coming on.

02:56:11.000 Is there any websites you want to plug or any materials?

02:56:14.000 No, sir.

02:56:16.000 Well, thank you for having me.

02:56:18.000 Thank you.

02:56:18.000 One good thing we got going for us, Mr. Pyle, is there's a lot of good people in the government, isn't there?

02:56:23.000 Yes, and in our society.

02:56:25.000 And they need to start thinking about these matters very seriously.

02:56:28.000 Yes, sir.

02:56:28.000 Have a good weekend.

02:56:29.000 God bless.

02:56:30.000 You too.

02:56:30.000 We'll see you in New York.

Alex Jones Show - August 27, 2004

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