Alex Jones Show - 20040909_Thu_Alex

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00:00:21.000 All right, my friends. my friends.

00:00:41.000 Already Thursday, the ninth day of September 2004, as we accelerate towards the three-year anniversary of the military-industrial complex New World Ordered Attacks on Lower Manhattan.

00:00:54.000 Thank you.

00:00:55.000 Thank you again so much for joining us on this Thursday edition.

00:01:00.000 We have Dr. Breeding joining us in the second hour.

00:01:04.000 Talk about forced mental screening for all Americans.

00:01:08.000 And it's now hitting a roadblock in the House of Representatives.

00:01:12.000 Headline from World Net Daily.

00:01:14.000 Also on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:01:18.000 Forced mental screening hits roadblock in the House.

00:01:21.000 Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program, decries use of drugs on children.

00:01:28.000 And so we'll go over this lengthy article before we get Dr. Breeding on.

00:01:33.000 This is a big, big deal.

00:01:37.000 Also, another article here, Second Amendment Activists, and it says, uh, no, East Lons in the United States says school gun ban leaves nation vulnerable to Russian-type tragedy.

00:01:52.000 Well, that's the whole point of this.

00:01:54.000 Why do you think George Bush won't arm the airline pilots?

00:01:58.000 They can let them fly around in a $80 million, $50 million machine, with hundreds of people on board, with hundreds of switches, most of them former military, but they can't be armed.

00:02:12.000 I know the NRA told you Bush did arm the pilots, which is not true.

00:02:16.000 He blocked it until it was an outrage so loud that even Democrats joined in.

00:02:21.000 And that's right, even Dianne Feinstein said, yeah, go ahead and arm the pilots. 0.93

00:02:25.000 More conservative than Bush.

00:02:26.000 I'm serious.

00:02:28.000 I'm serious.

00:02:29.000 And Bush said, OK, if you can jump through a bunch of hoops, we'll arm 2% of you.

00:02:33.000 And none of them have really been armed, so.

00:02:36.000 Unfortunately, a car bomb near Embassy in Indonesia kills seven.

00:02:41.000 We'll get into that.

00:02:42.000 The intelligence report put out by the Southern Poverty Law Center Talks about evil conspiracy theorists that the government was behind 9-11.

00:02:50.000 You mean like the Zogby Poll and half of New Yorkers?

00:02:54.000 So we'll be covering that as well.

00:02:57.000 And I'm really getting sick of this focus on Vietnam.

00:02:59.000 There's going to be all these TV ads about how Bush was AWOL and all these other ads about Kerry writing his own medals.

00:03:10.000 It's all true, but compared to all the crimes going on now and what these guys are up to in their agendas, that's what really matters.

00:03:19.000 But no, we're not talking about the war right now that's claimed over 1,000 troops, 500 contractors, and tens of thousands of Iraqis.

00:03:26.000 We're talking about a war that ended 30-plus years ago!

00:03:28.000 35 years ago!

00:03:29.000 35 years ago why is that?

00:03:34.000 this is the art of destruction and diversion so you're welcome to call in and discuss that as well New ad takes aim at Bush's National Guard Service, and yeah, Bush has lied about it, and yeah, all the documents have come out, and yeah, he was AWOL for over a year, and yeah, he's a co-kid, and yeah, it's all true, and that's all part of being conservative, folks.

00:03:56.000 Also, Dr. Dennis Cuddy weighs in on this forced Mental Health Screening.

00:04:01.000 He says Mental Health and World Citizenship.

00:04:04.000 Same stuff is going on in Europe and England.

00:04:06.000 This is all part of the new Big Brother Control System.

00:04:11.000 So we'll be covering it all after this quick break.

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00:08:49.000 On InfoWars.com right now, from Ron Paul, an article by Ron Storm about Ron Paul from WorldNet, NeoconDaily.

00:08:59.000 Forced mental screening hits roadblock in-house.

00:09:03.000 Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program, decries use of drugs on children.

00:09:09.000 Now, we've read the actual New Freedom Program, what, two months ago on air.

00:09:14.000 We've read the documents on air.

00:09:16.000 We've read the British Medical Association's comments on it, calling it a brave new world.

00:09:22.000 Every child in the country, public or private, will be forcibly, psychologically tested according to new guidelines, hundreds of new mental illnesses, forcibly drugged.

00:09:33.000 This is the reality.

00:09:36.000 And George Bush, as usual, is behind it.

00:09:39.000 If it's big government, if it's pure evil...

00:09:42.000 He's behind it, and conservatives absolutely love it.

00:09:46.000 So-called conservatives.

00:09:47.000 The same folks that cheered Arnold, who's for open borders, abortion on demand, who is for, you know, the gay marriage, the same guy who is for all this gun control, and just involved in Enron, so he saves you from Enron.

00:10:03.000 You just cheer him, and you love him, and you don't let the facts get in the way.

00:10:08.000 And it says, Representative Ron Paul, Republican Texas, plans to offer an amendment in the House of Representatives today that will remove from any appropriations bill a new mandatory mental health screening program for America's children.

00:10:21.000 Let me stop right there.

00:10:23.000 We've read the plan.

00:10:23.000 It gets worse.

00:10:25.000 I'm looking at the Chicago Tribune here.

00:10:27.000 We first reported on this a month ago, but now it's in the Chicago Tribune.

00:10:31.000 Where, when you go into the hospital to have your baby, they send in social workers, whether you're rich, poor, black, white, old, young, and force you to have psychological testing, and the guidelines have been written by Eli Lilly and others, a consortium, right here in Texas, in a pilot program that started in the early 1990s, right here in Austin.

00:10:52.000 Ten states now do it.

00:10:54.000 The states are already doing it.

00:10:56.000 This new program will massively fund it, make it mandatory in all 50.

00:11:01.000 The American tradition of parents deciding what is best for their children is yet again under attack, writes Kent Snyder of the Paul Foundation Liberty Committee.

00:11:10.000 The pharmacological industry has convinced President Bush to support mandatory mental health screenings for every child in America, including preschool children.

00:11:19.000 That's right, everyone will get a CPS visit.

00:11:22.000 And the industry is now working to convince Congress as well.

00:11:27.000 And it says the New Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only for children, but eventually for every American.

00:11:33.000 Already starting in Illinois.

00:11:34.000 A new law about to pass the state level.

00:11:36.000 The initiative came out of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.

00:11:41.000 But the original organization was founded in 1992 in Austin, Texas.

00:11:47.000 Critics of the plan say it is a thinly-veiled attempt, it's not thinly-veiled, by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and anti-psychotics medication and puts government in areas of America's lives where it does not belong.

00:12:00.000 Writes Snyder, the real payoff of the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result, as we learn, tragically, with Ritalin even when parents refuse.

00:12:11.000 Now, again, The guidelines were admittedly written by a consortium of eight drug companies led by Eli Lilly.

00:12:23.000 And all the drugs they recommend in it just so happen to be all the new expensive ones that are $10 a pill.

00:12:29.000 Some of them are more.

00:12:32.000 And this is what they're going to do.

00:12:35.000 They've got the initiative.

00:12:37.000 They've got the plan.

00:12:38.000 It's going to go into all 50 states unless we stop it and say no. 0.95

00:12:41.000 And then they are openly going to declare your child mentally ill.

00:12:46.000 They'll call your 12-year-old in and say, you get depressed.

00:12:48.000 You get angry sometimes.

00:12:49.000 Well, what 12-year-old doesn't?

00:12:51.000 And so, okay, well, we've got the new school psychiatrist paid for with this federal grant.

00:12:57.000 And they say you're mentally ill, and so now your child gets a designation as mentally ill and loses their rights for life.

00:13:04.000 If they can't get you on welfare into the system, they'll get you into the criminal justice system.

00:13:08.000 If they can't do that, they'll get you into the mental health system.

00:13:11.000 This is the Soviet Union.

00:13:14.000 And when I was in New York, it was on News 1, it was on the radio, we even went there.

00:13:18.000 Bellevue, the famous mental institution in New York, huge building, they took the leaders of the protests to the mental institution, hundreds of them.

00:13:28.000 They would arrest you at permanent protest.

00:13:30.000 You heard the American Spectator reporter yesterday.

00:13:32.000 A conservative at a permanent protest in a suit and tie with congressional passes.

00:13:37.000 Arrested.

00:13:37.000 The Secret Service screened him, admitted he was innocent, and they still put him in jail.

00:13:42.000 Folks, they ship people to a mental institution.

00:13:44.000 This is the new America. 0.73

00:13:46.000 Remember three years ago, I had that honor roll student on from Temple University, who was even a Bill Clinton staffer, but was conservative, and they had the school play, Corpus Christi, where Christ is a homosexual prostitute, and Christians were offended, so they got their own time, their own stage, they had their own rally against it, and school officials suddenly cancelled it and said, Called him in with the security guards and the Dean said, uh, drop your request for this.

00:14:15.000 He said no. 0.80

00:14:16.000 So they tackled him and put him in the school mental institution.

00:14:19.000 The doctors said he wasn't mentally ill, refused to force drug him and they released him.

00:14:23.000 But he almost disappeared.

00:14:26.000 This is the new America. 0.51

00:14:27.000 Folks, I can't tell you how many listeners have given police copies of my videos, shown it at their college, and who are arrested and put in mental institutions.

00:14:37.000 Most get out in a day or two.

00:14:38.000 Others are still in there.

00:14:40.000 Every week, and I'm not trying to scare you, it's the new America.

00:14:43.000 We can cower to this and shut up to this, and go along with this, or we can start being put in mental institutions.

00:14:50.000 It's the Soviet Union, folks.

00:14:52.000 This is not a joke.

00:14:54.000 They've arrested tens of thousands of Falun Gong, just these peaceful Buddhists in China, and they put them in mental institutions.

00:15:02.000 The top Chinese scientist who worked for the government, who said that the Chinese government was covering up the SARS.

00:15:11.000 They put him in for six months and released him, quote, after he'd been re-educated.

00:15:15.000 They admitted they brainwashed him, drugged him, tortured him.

00:15:18.000 He was all ready to say he was sorry afterwards.

00:15:21.000 Dr. Charles T. Sell, Army doctor, Army dentist, hired at Waco to identify, he was there on day 51, Quote, because there was going to be a fire, they told him, and they burned it down and killed the people.

00:15:35.000 And, uh, he talked about it, and the FBI had dropped by and said, uh, well, we heard you're threatening people, which he didn't do.

00:15:43.000 And, uh, seven years later, he's in solitary confinement under forced drugging, quote, getting him ready for trial for Medicaid fraud, which would, the maximum sentence was one year in jail.

00:15:54.000 No, no trial, no nothing.

00:15:55.000 He's just in a prison, uh, on drugs, on antipsychotics.

00:16:02.000 For seven years now.

00:16:04.000 And so we can just sit here and go along with this or we can scream bloody murder and say no.

00:16:09.000 You see?

00:16:09.000 And it's for everybody.

00:16:10.000 It's not just those that fight the New World Order.

00:16:12.000 It's not just those that fight the New World Order.

00:16:16.000 It's people that serve it.

00:16:17.000 It's going to be every one of you.

00:16:19.000 The entire economy is going to be prisons, security, giant mental institutions, forced drugging.

00:16:28.000 This is the official government plan.

00:16:32.000 This is not a free market economy.

00:16:34.000 This is a tyrannical plutocracy that is predatory.

00:16:41.000 And the globalists, the small group of families that own things, are threatened by free market.

00:16:47.000 They're threatened by you owning businesses and companies.

00:16:49.000 But they own the prisons, they own the mental health systems, they own Big Pharma, they own the military-industrial complex, they own the media, and now they're shifting over and they're going to force you all into their systems.

00:17:04.000 And as more and more jobs are lost, as the economy implodes under the free trade area of the Americas and the Pan-American Union that goes into law January 1st, the average person knows nothing about it.

00:17:15.000 Under that, as more and more people lose their jobs, it's going to pressurize people.

00:17:19.000 Now all the big new majors at universities are Homeland Security.

00:17:26.000 Security.

00:17:27.000 They've even got classes called New World Order.

00:17:30.000 Pentagon's new map.

00:17:32.000 Everything is shifting into this.

00:17:34.000 Into security and law enforcement and criminology and psychology and law.

00:17:40.000 And so the economy, now that we have gone to this post-industrial phase, yeah, it's going to be a service economy, a police-state grid.

00:17:48.000 And so people are going to want jobs, and so half of society, like a Kurt Vonnegut book, a dystopic novel, half of the population are going to be controllers, or minions of the controllers, and the other half are going to be prisoners.

00:18:03.000 Now you think I'm joking, I'm not.

00:18:06.000 Toll roads everywhere, no freedom, Everything tracked and traced.

00:18:12.000 Taxation at 84%, the Congressional Budget Office's own numbers, projected for 2010.

00:18:19.000 Total enslavement.

00:18:21.000 This has been the norm in world history and you're about to have it.

00:18:24.000 You're about to get it.

00:18:27.000 The good news is, half of New Yorkers in a major Zogby poll believe the government was behind 9-11.

00:18:31.000 Not just head prior knowledge.

00:18:34.000 The good news is, in six months, that number will be 70% on the projections I've got.

00:18:39.000 The good news is people are waking up to this.

00:18:42.000 The good news is our numbers are exploding.

00:18:45.000 The good news is people have committed themselves to this fight come hell or high water.

00:18:50.000 But the hair limped the Admiral.

00:18:53.000 We're going all the way.

00:18:55.000 And most people in government aren't bad.

00:18:58.000 Most FBI aren't bad.

00:18:59.000 Most police aren't bad.

00:19:00.000 Most military aren't bad.

00:19:02.000 Most school teachers aren't bad. 0.99

00:19:03.000 They've been ignorant like everybody else. 0.99

00:19:05.000 They've been compartmentalized. 1.00

00:19:07.000 They heard us warn them years ago.

00:19:08.000 They laughed at us.

00:19:09.000 Now they're watching it happen!

00:19:11.000 Now they're seeing it happen!

00:19:13.000 Now they know where their children's future lies if they don't stand up and join us in liberty and freedom and transparency and decency and honor!

00:19:22.000 Corruption has gone to seed!

00:19:25.000 Our civilization is in danger!

00:19:28.000 Humanity's future is in the crosshairs!

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00:19:33.000 We'll get into other global news, your calls, and come up in about 40 minutes we'll have Dr. Breeding on to talk about the New Freedom Initiative.

00:19:46.000 It's a new freedom!

00:19:47.000 It's new!

00:19:47.000 It's new freedom!

00:19:49.000 Replace that old freedom!

00:19:51.000 New freedom is slavery.

00:19:53.000 Freedom is slavery.

00:19:54.000 Ignorance is strength.

00:19:56.000 War is peace. 0.96

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00:24:18.000 You know, I love the Mark Twain quote about how in the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him.

00:24:30.000 Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

00:24:33.000 And that's really what it all boils down to.

00:24:36.000 It was hard to get on the air on the morning of 9-11 and say that the Globalists had carried it out. 0.89

00:24:43.000 It was hard to get on air and say, don't give money to the Red Cross and United Way, it goes to gun control groups on the morning of 9-11.

00:24:50.000 Now of course, if that all came out and turned out to be true, because I already knew what they'd done in the past, in Oklahoma City and other cases, It was hard to get on the air and tell you that George Bush isn't a conservative.

00:25:03.000 It's hard to get on the air and talk about how our world leaders are devil worshippers, but we have the facts and now it's even mainstream news. 0.90

00:25:11.000 It's hard to tell the truth sometimes, but long term it's much worse to lie to yourself, to lie to your family, and to be a coward. 0.91

00:25:20.000 When you're a coward, people push you around. 0.71

00:25:24.000 When you're a timid individual, you get shoved to the back. 0.57

00:25:31.000 And, you know, the Bible says the meek inherit the earth. 1.00

00:25:35.000 But you look at that translation, I've talked to a lot of pastors, you look at the Greek, it means really those that aren't prideful.

00:25:42.000 The Bible's full of examples of prophets and leaders boldly standing up against evil.

00:25:46.000 That's what we're supposed to do.

00:25:47.000 But by meek it means that you're not on some power trip getting off on controlling others.

00:25:54.000 Frankly, I'm embarrassed of the power I have.

00:26:00.000 It makes me feel shy.

00:26:04.000 It makes me feel this great responsibility.

00:26:07.000 It's embarrassing to me.

00:26:09.000 I don't enjoy it.

00:26:10.000 I don't like it.

00:26:11.000 I don't like being known.

00:26:13.000 I don't like being seen as a leader.

00:26:15.000 But it's my responsibility.

00:26:17.000 And yes, I do have some modicum of power.

00:26:20.000 And I see people who have small amounts of power loving to exercise it over weak people beneath them.

00:26:26.000 And that is disgusting and enrages me.

00:26:29.000 And that is why I seek power, is so that I can block those who have greater power from abusing myself and others.

00:26:37.000 And we all better seek power.

00:26:39.000 The power to defend the weak.

00:26:41.000 The power to defend the innocent.

00:26:43.000 The power to defend the widows.

00:26:46.000 And the orphans.

00:26:49.000 It makes me so mad that they're putting cancer viruses and vaccines and mercury and increasing the levels of mercury.

00:26:55.000 Congressional investigations have now shown.

00:27:01.000 Makes me so mad to see tyranny sweeping the globe.

00:27:05.000 And I want you to stand up and be a standard against that evil.

00:27:08.000 When the evil comes in like a flood, the spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard against it.

00:27:13.000 And you are that standard.

00:27:14.000 And if you don't realize that yet, you need to start realizing it.

00:27:18.000 And stop denying what your guts are telling you.

00:27:22.000 Alright, let's talk to Pat in Texas.

00:27:24.000 Pat, first caller, thanks for holding.

00:27:26.000 Yes, Alex.

00:27:26.000 Welcome.

00:27:27.000 This is Patrick.

00:27:29.000 I got shot in the head and they intitialized me and they've intitialized me 14 times and I have a list up here of side effects with just one medication alone.

00:27:38.000 Everything from vomiting to drowsiness to loss of appetite, nervousness, sleeplessness, headache, nausea, constipation, sensitivity to light.

00:27:48.000 In other words, you're just a vegetable and psychiatrists originate from Sigmund Freud and German Nazi. 0.72

00:27:55.000 End of report. 0.97

00:27:57.000 Alright, sir.

00:27:58.000 Thanks for the call, Pat.

00:27:59.000 And we'll be getting into how every American will sit down twice a year and be screened by government psychiatrists, publicly paid for by the big drug companies.

00:28:08.000 Who's up next, uh, Scott?

00:28:11.000 Donna and Mass, you're on the air, Donna.

00:28:13.000 Hi, Alex.

00:28:14.000 Um, the reason I'm calling is that I had to go up against my police chief in court the other day because he had denied my, uh, permit to carry a firearm.

00:28:24.000 He had denied your privilege card.

00:28:28.000 Yes, he did.

00:28:30.000 Well, I'm a 26-year veteran.

00:28:35.000 Before I was enlightened, I was involved in Gulf War I. And my husband is a highly decorated Vietnam vet.

00:28:44.000 And we're just ordinary people.

00:28:50.000 But he denied me Saying that I was unsuitable because of my husband's extensive war record.

00:29:01.000 And I found this very interesting. 0.98

00:29:03.000 It's the damned if you do, damned if you don't. 0.97

00:29:05.000 Oh, you didn't see the documents right before Bill Clinton left? 0.96

00:29:08.000 They transferred all records on veterans into the mental health system of Health and Human Services and into the NICS system and they're now denying veterans with no criminal record or mental record their capacity to buy firearms?

00:29:24.000 Stay there man, because I'm fully aware of this.

00:29:26.000 I want you to tell us the name of your police chief where you live and how he told you, because your husband has an extensive war record.

00:29:33.000 You can't have a gun here in this new free country.

00:29:37.000 We live in.

00:29:38.000 But in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, anyone could own a gun, man, woman, or child.

00:29:44.000 That's why they had to get rid of him.

00:29:46.000 He was their agent, but he was too lenient.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:33:08.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. .

00:33:14.000 Alright, we're talking to Donna in Mass, Massachusetts.

00:33:18.000 I never can pronounce that right.

00:33:20.000 And, uh, Donna, just to give folks some background here, okay?

00:33:26.000 Um, well, um... I mean, tell us about the town you're in, the police chief, what his lordship said to you.

00:33:32.000 Okay.

00:33:33.000 Uh, I live in Swansea, Massachusetts.

00:33:35.000 The police chief is a man named George Arruda.

00:33:39.000 A-R-R-U-D-A. 1.00

00:33:41.000 Arruda.

00:33:42.000 And, uh, I know he hasn't liked my husband for quite some time.

00:33:46.000 My husband has been toe-to-toe with him verbally on a couple of occasions.

00:33:50.000 But, um, you know, my husband is a highly decorated war vet.

00:33:54.000 And, um, he's served his country well.

00:33:56.000 He's had a business here for 30 years.

00:33:59.000 A well-respected business.

00:34:01.000 Um, and I just went into, um, Resubmit for my permit to carry a firearm.

00:34:07.000 And I've had one for many years.

00:34:09.000 I mean, I need one because of the hours I travel to do my work.

00:34:12.000 Sometimes it's three o'clock in the morning.

00:34:14.000 Everybody needs a gun, especially if you own a business.

00:34:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:18.000 I mean, I couldn't imagine running a business knowing I could be robbed any minute.

00:34:21.000 Hey, cops! 0.99

00:34:22.000 How would you like having your guns taken when you're on duty?

00:34:25.000 Yeah.

00:34:27.000 But I was denied, so I appealed.

00:34:31.000 And I had a hearing last week.

00:34:33.000 The interesting thing about this hearing is that I approached the bench with my attorney and he was questioning, my attorney was questioning the police chief before the judge and myself and he was caught lying blatantly at least three times by my attorney.

00:34:51.000 And he made an interesting statement.

00:34:54.000 He stated that sometime in 1999, and he could not identify the date or anything, he said that He had attended a mental health facility for an evaluation.

00:35:07.000 Which is totally untrue.

00:35:10.000 And I said, where did he get it?

00:35:11.000 He just made it up.

00:35:13.000 And this is what these guys do.

00:35:15.000 Well, no, that's what this new Freedom Initiative is.

00:35:18.000 We're all going to be screened twice a year, children and adults.

00:35:21.000 But let me stop you for a minute and give folks some background.

00:35:24.000 Okay.

00:35:25.000 In Vermont, they have, carry at will, if you're not a felon, Concealed Carry, Open Carry, Second Amendment is alive in that state.

00:35:35.000 That is really one of the only states that it's still there.

00:35:39.000 In Texas, they come out many years ago and go, Oh, they've had Concealed Carry in other states.

00:35:44.000 It makes the crime rate drop on average by 24%, which is true.

00:35:49.000 Let's have a Concealed Carry.

00:35:51.000 But at that point, they change the law Where if I don't have a concealed carry, I can't even buy a handgun in a gun shop and drive it home.

00:35:59.000 It's up to their discretion.

00:36:01.000 The law says this.

00:36:03.000 Rifles you can still have in your car, shotguns loaded, hidden in plain view, whatever.

00:36:08.000 And so what they do nationwide is, they take a right and turn it into a privilege.

00:36:13.000 And 30, 40 years ago, depending on what area of the East, or Illinois, like Chicago, other big cities and states, They said, don't worry, you can still own a gun, just come get a permit, it's a little $20 fee or $5 fee.

00:36:27.000 People said, okay, I'm law-abiding, I'll do that.

00:36:31.000 So liquor store owners and 7-Eleven owners and, you know, owners of roller rinks, whatever, car dealerships, banks, they all went and they got guns.

00:36:43.000 Or gun permits for guns they already had.

00:36:45.000 Then they started raising the price, saying, oh, there's a class you gotta take every ten years to have it.

00:36:50.000 And, oh, now it's every year.

00:36:52.000 And, oh, now we don't offer the class anymore.

00:36:54.000 Well, now it's up to the police chief or sheriff.

00:36:56.000 They decide.

00:36:58.000 Until areas like New York, literally, the thousands of people that have got gun permits are known mobsters, Hollywood people.

00:37:06.000 Anyone who gives, you know, $10,000, $20,000 to the sheriff, reelection campaign, or to the mayor, they get a permit, even if they're felons.

00:37:15.000 Okay.

00:37:15.000 And then the citizens can't get them.

00:37:17.000 So this turns a right into a privilege.

00:37:19.000 That's why I'm against permitted concealed carries.

00:37:22.000 It's turning a right into a privilege.

00:37:24.000 It's a very evil process.

00:37:27.000 And now, before the break, last segment, you also said that he said because your husband has an extensive war record.

00:37:34.000 Can you tell us exactly what your would-be ruler said?

00:37:39.000 Well, he stated before the judge, he said Um, Mrs. Dunn's husband has a very extensive war record and, you know, he, um, was involved in, um, black operations, blah blah blah.

00:37:56.000 I mean, in a derogatory manner.

00:37:59.000 Oh, don't worry.

00:38:00.000 For all the folks doing black operations right now, secret ops in the U.S. 0.86

00:38:03.000 and overseas, see, this is going to happen to you.

00:38:09.000 87,000 in the first transfer of files, then it was even more before Bill Clinton left office, then Bush continued it, of veterans, especially special forces, went into a huge mental health and the NICS database And people that didn't know in Vietnam or Gulf War who collapsed of heat exhaustion or whatever, you didn't know that when you were in the infirmary that the psychiatrist and doctors signed off that you had post-traumatic stress.

00:38:37.000 Then grandpas go to buy their 15-year-old grandson's .22 rifles and are told, sorry, NICS says you have a problem.

00:38:45.000 They write letters and find out they're listed as mentally ill.

00:38:49.000 And now there's hundreds of new mental illness designations, and they're going to test all the children, all the adults in the new Freedom Initiative, and they're going to say we're all mentally ill and we can't own guns.

00:38:59.000 So again, if they can't get you in the welfare system under their control, they can't get you in the criminal justice system, Yeah, so I am not going to get an answer on this for about a week.

00:39:16.000 I spoke to my attorney last night.

00:39:18.000 He believes it went well only because he did catch this police chief, this poor police chief, And lied at least three times.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, you need to bring the case back up and it need be sue the police chief for false statements, defamation of character and say show where I've been in the mental institution.

00:39:38.000 Right, right.

00:39:40.000 Well this is the new thing.

00:39:41.000 I mean it's the new Soviet America. 0.93

00:39:45.000 This is what they do.

00:39:46.000 Well we have to keep fighting even if it's just on your local level here.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, and when I went in for this permit, I paid, it was a hundred bucks for me to renew.

00:39:55.000 A hundred bucks, and they knew good and well they were not going to reissue my permit.

00:40:01.000 They knew it.

00:40:02.000 And after all that, and then, you know, another eight hundred bucks for the appeal to pay a lawyer and all this stuff.

00:40:14.000 And the interesting thing is, I was watching the judge's face and As many times as this police chief was caught outright lying, he did not bat an eye.

00:40:26.000 Well, we talked to the American Spectator writer, a conservative, who was arrested for no reason in New York last week.

00:40:32.000 I was there as he was being arrested, we learned yesterday.

00:40:34.000 I didn't even know that.

00:40:35.000 I've been at that particular arrest from a distance, but videotaping it.

00:40:43.000 You know, hours later, police that weren't even there came and just filled out the arrest report on him and just made stuff up.

00:40:51.000 So, I mean, just lying has become institutional.

00:40:55.000 Ma'am, I'm sorry, but how long did you serve in the military?

00:40:58.000 Well, I'm in my 26th year now.

00:41:01.000 I'm trying to retire from my Air National Guard unit.

00:41:04.000 They've been wanting to send me to various places.

00:41:08.000 And you were in the First Gulf War?

00:41:09.000 Yes, I was.

00:41:12.000 I re-qualify with the military every year on the M16, on the 9mm.

00:41:17.000 I'm very well versed on the usage of the weapon.

00:41:21.000 Thanks for the call.

00:41:21.000 I hear you.

00:41:22.000 I appreciate it.

00:41:23.000 I'm sorry, Donna.

00:41:26.000 Look, you can have airline pilots, the most skilled people, frankly, out there of any industry, most of them former fighter pilots, bomber pilots, You know, no criminal record.

00:41:41.000 They've had psychological testing.

00:41:43.000 Hundreds of switches.

00:41:46.000 Tens of thousands of hours in aircraft.

00:41:49.000 And they can't have a gun.

00:41:51.000 They can't have a gun.

00:41:54.000 This is for everybody.

00:41:56.000 And all these poor so-called conservatives have lobbied for concealed carry.

00:42:01.000 You've lobbied to stick your head in a noose.

00:42:03.000 Thanks a lot.

00:42:06.000 And I've been criticized by concealed permit holders.

00:42:09.000 Well, Alex, it's better than nothing and I gotta have this to protect myself.

00:42:12.000 If you put all your energy into getting a Vermont-style law into your state, we'd be reversing things.

00:42:19.000 But you always compromise.

00:42:20.000 But it's not a compromise.

00:42:22.000 We never go in the other direction towards the Second Amendment and freedom.

00:42:25.000 It's always the other direction!

00:42:29.000 It's like a tug of war!

00:42:31.000 The globalists keep dragging us over the edge of the cliff, and you call that compromise?

00:42:35.000 It's not!

00:42:36.000 Ron in New York, you're on the air, go ahead.

00:42:38.000 Hi Alex, that was an interesting subject your last caller brought up.

00:42:42.000 The fact of the matter is, and I've called you about this before, is there have always been, in their aggressive attempts to try and define things as an adjudication of mental defect, that are not.

00:42:53.000 If someone goes out and seeks some psychiatric treatment for a problem, minor depression and so forth, That is not an adjudication of mental defect, yet they're trying to equate that to an adjudication.

00:43:04.000 And let me add this, the media, the culture, the sitcoms, the dramas...

00:43:08.000 You know, the Sopranos, they all promote going to the shrink, going to the psychologist, where everybody thinks it's the cool thing to do.

00:43:15.000 Meanwhile, they're setting it up where you lose all your rights if you do it.

00:43:19.000 It will destroy your civil liberties, but the worst part about it is the statutes read, at least the federal statutes.

00:43:25.000 There has to be an adjudication.

00:43:27.000 An adjudication is a very specific, very formal, very defined process.

00:43:33.000 Even under the regulations of something like the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, there are still certain minimums that have to occur, but they're not even... they're getting so out of hand with it, that what they're trying to do is just say, you know, someone goes to a mental health provider for some treatment, some minor treatment.

00:43:53.000 But sir, Donna didn't even go to anybody, he just made it up.

00:43:57.000 Yeah, well sure, the guy is an absolute out and out liar, obviously, from what she said, or trying to hold, this is another strange thing, trying to hold her husband, or transmute her husband's honorable military service into something negative, and I really don't know how that's germane to Donna in any event.

00:44:13.000 Donna's going for the permit, not her husband, but they do that here where I live, too, in New York.

00:44:18.000 Um, what they'll do, The license-issuing officer in this agency will deprive you of the license if you are involved in civil litigation, whether as plaintiff or defendant.

00:44:29.000 Now that has no relevance to anything if you're suing somebody because you tripped on a sidewalk or you're getting sued because somebody tripped on a sidewalk in front of your house.

00:44:37.000 They are denying people who have diabetes.

00:44:40.000 These permits?

00:44:41.000 I don't see the relevance of that.

00:44:44.000 Again, this is all insane.

00:44:46.000 The public is generally not aware of this.

00:44:48.000 Well, I don't think people remember Pennsylvania.

00:44:51.000 The guy has heart palpitations, business owner, no criminal record, goes in and says, I drink a six-pack most nights.

00:44:58.000 I don't drink and drive, but I drink a six-pack at night.

00:45:00.000 Should I stop?

00:45:01.000 And the doctor calls and has his license revoked, and the judge says, yeah, you can't have a license anymore because you drink.

00:45:07.000 Yeah, I believe, as a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, isn't it Indiana that case came up in?

00:45:11.000 And that was recent too.

00:45:13.000 Now again... That was another one in Pennsylvania.

00:45:15.000 Yeah, there was one in Indiana about one or two weeks back as well.

00:45:17.000 They had an old law dating back to 1968.

00:45:20.000 Well, your physician has to notify the Department of Motor Vehicles in the state of Indiana if, you know, you admit to him that you drink.

00:45:28.000 Now, if the guy's not drinking and driving, then there's no... Again, what is the relevance of it?

00:45:32.000 He's consuming a lawful beverage.

00:45:34.000 If you want outlaw liquor, outlaw liquor, but it's lawful.

00:45:38.000 So long as he doesn't indicate that he drinks and drives, or he drives while he's intoxicated, I don't know... Oh, no, the hospital admits the guy said he didn't drink and drive.

00:45:46.000 Then this is all insane.

00:45:47.000 Do you understand the rule of reason?

00:45:49.000 Well, let me stop you.

00:45:50.000 It's not insane.

00:45:51.000 If you're, uh, you know, the 13 families of the New World Order, the mafia families, and you want to get everybody into your private prisons that you own, or into your mental health system that you own, uh, you just list everyone as evil.

00:46:03.000 Well, you know what, Alex? 0.85

00:46:05.000 It's insane in that these people who are controlling, or this controlling Allen Gawk, they're insane. 0.92

00:46:10.000 They're out of their minds or evil to the point of insanity. 1.00

00:46:10.000 They're evil. 1.00

00:46:13.000 It is insane. 0.79

00:46:15.000 It's evil, it fits with their plan, but it is by no means normal in any respect.

00:46:20.000 They're just imposing themselves on us.

00:46:23.000 There is no longer in this country, the present environment, any consideration for what is the law, what is just, what is reasonable. 0.99

00:46:31.000 It's, I've got a big hammer and I can hit you over the head with it and that's it and I'll make up any law no matter how stupid and trivial it is to justify what I'm doing. 0.91

00:46:40.000 Ron, that's absolutely right, and I just want military people to listen to me out there. 0.99

00:46:46.000 They send you to Iraq, you breathe the plutonium, you're given experimental vaccines, you come back here to have your benefits cut.

00:46:56.000 You know, this is the new America.

00:46:58.000 This is what is happening, and I want to tell this story.

00:47:02.000 About five years ago, I've got it on tape somewhere around here, I even played clips on my local cable show, The Discovery Channel had a show called Inside.

00:47:12.000 Inside Nuclear Submarines.

00:47:13.000 Inside NORAD.

00:47:14.000 Inside LAPD was the particular sub-show.

00:47:21.000 And this Korean War veteran had died.

00:47:25.000 He'd been dead for a week.

00:47:28.000 Enlisters always call in who saw this.

00:47:29.000 They re-air it all the time.

00:47:30.000 I've even seen it on again about a year ago.

00:47:33.000 And this old guy had died.

00:47:36.000 Okay, I got so mad, folks, I literally just puffed up and turned red when I watched this.

00:47:42.000 And they pull up at his house.

00:47:44.000 The neighbor said he hadn't been out in a week.

00:47:45.000 They smelled something.

00:47:47.000 He was a widower.

00:47:48.000 He lived alone.

00:47:48.000 And they pull up to the middle class house.

00:47:52.000 There's the old Bronco.

00:47:53.000 And he had a Korean War veteran sticker on his car, an NRA sticker, and the cops, young thugs, stand with tattoos and shaved heads, literal gang members, scary guys, folks, type of bouncer that grabs on your wife when you go in a bar.

00:48:08.000 And he's, they go, look at this, he's dangerous, he's some type of survivalist, because he has an NRA sticker.

00:48:15.000 They go in the house, and the guy had ten guns.

00:48:20.000 M1, Grand, a couple rifles, And they go, look at this.

00:48:24.000 Look at this kook. 0.91

00:48:25.000 Look at this dangerous person.

00:48:27.000 This guy thinks you're allowed to own guns.

00:48:29.000 Well, he is, but it doesn't mean he's not dangerous.

00:48:31.000 And they make fun of his dead body. 0.96

00:48:33.000 They make fun of his stink. 0.96

00:48:34.000 This is on national TV!

00:48:36.000 A dead veteran who died of a heart attack, they later learn.

00:48:39.000 And then the cops openly, on television, go, this one's mine.

00:48:43.000 No, that one's mine.

00:48:44.000 And start arguing over who gets to keep what guns. 0.99

00:48:48.000 Which one of the parasites get to steal his property? 0.97

00:48:51.000 And let me tell you, I felt very violent at that point. 1.00

00:48:54.000 Here is a dead veteran's body being desecrated by young scumbags as they openly steal his guns. 0.98

00:49:00.000 It was like Clockwork Orange or something. 0.99

00:49:03.000 And they're making fun of his dead body and making fun of his stink. 0.71

00:49:06.000 Now what is wrong with you people? 0.90

00:49:09.000 What have you done?

00:49:10.000 Who have they hired?

00:49:12.000 Alex?

00:49:12.000 Yes?

00:49:13.000 The irony of it is, is that they would have the audacity to even behave that way, knowing that they're being filmed.

00:49:19.000 That's how out of hand it's gotten.

00:49:21.000 No, no!

00:49:21.000 That's what I'm saying!

00:49:22.000 They'll get up on the stand and lie, and it's no big deal!

00:49:25.000 I was in a government meeting last night, it was pell-mill lying, we have the documents!

00:49:30.000 Well, that's it.

00:49:31.000 We don't have a system anymore.

00:49:32.000 You know what we have?

00:49:33.000 The vulgar rule of power.

00:49:35.000 I think the punctuation mark on the collapse of the system is what happened at the Republican Convention a week ago.

00:49:43.000 I think that proves it right there, that it no longer matters what the facts are, what the law is.

00:49:48.000 That's just a lot of scenery.

00:49:50.000 That's just to make it look... the candy coating to make it look nice.

00:49:52.000 They're just going to do what they want.

00:49:54.000 And that's it.

00:49:55.000 That's what they're going to do.

00:49:56.000 Yeah, isn't it freedom to have cops manhandle you, slam you around, break your cameras, when you've got congressional press passes, arresting AP reporters, Reuters reporters, Pacifica reporters, American Spectator reporters, just for no reason!

00:50:11.000 And you know something else, Alex?

00:50:12.000 You mentioned something, and I want to bring this to the attention of your audience, because I don't think most people are old enough to know or remember this.

00:50:18.000 Um, the haircuts that you referred to, the shaved head haircuts.

00:50:23.000 Uh, though I get my haircuts short, too.

00:50:25.000 I realized something, I checked into that.

00:50:27.000 Do you know where that style started?

00:50:29.000 The Romans, so somebody couldn't grab your hair. 0.98

00:50:31.000 Well, you know, alright, that's ancient history.

00:50:33.000 Do you know in more recent history who was encouraged to do that?

00:50:36.000 Nazis.

00:50:37.000 Of course.

00:50:38.000 It was called the Prussian haircut for many years.

00:50:41.000 I don't know if you recall that time.

00:50:42.000 My grandfather always had that haircut.

00:50:42.000 No, no.

00:50:44.000 I need to have a good Prussian haircut.

00:50:46.000 You remember the term Prussian?

00:50:47.000 The Nazis used it. 0.93

00:50:48.000 They felt it made their people, the young people, their soldiers, look more vicious and mean.

00:50:52.000 Well, plus somebody can't grab your hair.

00:50:54.000 That's where it came from.

00:50:55.000 Hey, thanks for the call.

00:50:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:57:23.000 Andrea in Ohio, thanks for holding you on the air.

00:57:25.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:26.000 I wanted to call with just a brief update that I got this morning about this new freedom initiative.

00:57:34.000 I don't know if you saw or got in your email box a WorldNetDaily article.

00:57:38.000 Yeah, I have it.

00:57:39.000 It's on InfoWars.com right now.

00:57:41.000 There's even more info at the LibertyCommittee.org, Ron Paul's website.

00:57:47.000 The House is, as far as I know, blocking the funding of it.

00:57:52.000 That's not true.

00:57:53.000 A bill's been introduced to block it.

00:57:55.000 Oh, really?

00:57:55.000 Yeah.

00:57:58.000 And thank goodness for John Breeding, he has an email list and he sent that alert yesterday.

00:58:08.000 We crashed John Breeding's website by linking to it.

00:58:10.000 It was down last time I checked with a server overload is the message.

00:58:14.000 Oh no.

00:58:15.000 But you can get the World End Daily and the Ron Paul information off of Infowars.com right now.

00:58:20.000 Yes, yes, I have that.

00:58:21.000 And another resource that I would like to recommend to all the listeners is, if you don't have that up there yet, it's Alliance for Uh, Human, uh, Alliance for Human Research Protection at http://www.ahrp.org.

00:58:41.000 Yeah, I'll tell you what, uh, Andrea, just stay there. 1.00

00:58:46.000 Dr. Breeding's coming up.

00:58:47.000 You can talk to him.

00:58:48.000 We'll take other calls.

00:58:49.000 Stay with us.

00:58:51.000 Hello, folks.

00:58:51.000 Alex... Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:19.000 Alright folks, Dr. John Breeding is coming up here in a few minutes to talk about the new Freedom Initiative.

00:59:23.000 Ron Paul's introduced a bill to block it.

00:59:26.000 All school children and all adults forcibly psychologically tested twice a year.

00:59:31.000 Women, when they give birth, psychologically tested.

00:59:34.000 Your whole life screened and controlled and tracked.

00:59:37.000 The new Soviet States of America, that's coming up. 0.99

00:59:40.000 Also, we'll be getting into some of the new police state developments as well and what's happening in Iraq.

00:59:45.000 Also, the election heating up.

00:59:49.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls.

00:59:51.000 We'll go back to Andrea once we get Dr. Breeding on.

00:59:53.000 She has some comments and questions for him.

00:59:55.000 But let's go to Ed in Utah right now.

00:59:57.000 Ed in Utah, you're on the air.

00:59:59.000 Go ahead.

01:00:02.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

01:00:03.000 I want to make just an overview comment on some of the things you've been discussing with this police state, which of course was brought about by 9-11, if you will.

01:00:13.000 In other words, the psychological reaction, too many of these conservatives giving up their rights.

01:00:19.000 And what I'm seeing here, you've brought up a lot of Project for New American Century, which of course was exposed as being the project to remake the Middle East. 0.59

01:00:29.000 Condoleezza Rice confirmed this in Portland yesterday.

01:00:32.000 I don't know if she did that intentionally or if it was a loose lip, but she talked about in the execution, Alex, of the Iraq War, that quote, we did not expect such a fierce insurgency resistance.

01:00:43.000 So the pattern I'm seeing here... And last week Bush said the war on terror is a war we can't win.

01:00:50.000 Yes, there you go.

01:00:52.000 So it's going back and forth.

01:00:53.000 Now here's my pattern and here's why I called.

01:00:55.000 Here you have Chalabi connected to the nephew.

01:00:58.000 Uh, or his nephew connected to Doug Fyfe.

01:01:01.000 Now, you saw, uh... Now, again, she lobbies the torture master for the Shah, the admitted bank robber of our ally, Jordan. 0.82

01:01:08.000 Now, he's on the outs, supposedly, giving intel to Iran and Israel.

01:01:14.000 Exactly.

01:01:15.000 And this is where I'm going with this.

01:01:16.000 You have the Israeli spy scandal.

01:01:19.000 You know, I actually support Israel, but I don't support Israel arming Iran, arming China, spying on us.

01:01:25.000 That's the point.

01:01:26.000 The people running Israel don't care about Israel.

01:01:28.000 They're globalists.

01:01:29.000 Yeah, but Alex, when you look at the USA Today and CBS now coming out with the Doug Feith connection to this, that's important because I talked to you once before about the High Priest of War.

01:01:40.000 That's the book by that American free press reporter, Michael Piper.

01:01:44.000 And he has actually synchronized the entire conspiracy going back to the Fox News Network to this Doug Fyfe.

01:01:50.000 And now with new information about this Franklin character in Doug Fyfe's office giving stuff to Israel on this whole matter.

01:01:58.000 No, exactly.

01:01:59.000 And then if you tie that together with the BBC and the Santa Clarita paper out in Los Angeles, which apparently experienced a fire, The Army's own report said that the contractors did torture people to death.

01:02:10.000 Karpinski said, I'm not even allowed in those wings.

01:02:12.000 Shin Bet interrogators, those Israeli interrogators, were the ones brought in, even involved in some of the killing.

01:02:19.000 Now, she didn't say the killing, but she said that she was shoved aside.

01:02:23.000 So you have both fell down.

01:02:26.000 The Army's own report said that the contractors did torture people to death.

01:02:30.000 Kielpinski said, I'm not even allowed in those wings.

01:02:32.000 They went after her as a scapegoat. 0.71

01:02:35.000 Yes, so she's saying now that the Israelis Shin Bet were on site.

01:02:38.000 This to me is impeachable.

01:02:40.000 We have photos of the Shin Bet people with the Shin Bet tattoos.

01:02:43.000 Exactly, and now you have James Defense Weekly, earlier from their own info, corroborated Ms.

01:02:48.000 Karpinski, but she, like Sandy Berger, has now fallen off the radar screen.

01:02:53.000 I'm hoping, Alex, you'd bring Michael Piper on now.

01:02:55.000 I think he's coming back from the Far East next week or so.

01:02:59.000 And in the bookstores in Malaysia, his book, The High Priest of War, is being sold across that country and a few other countries.

01:03:07.000 Just not here, where it counts so much, where he's been able to expose the CIA-Israeli Mossad operation.

01:03:14.000 Well, look, I watched this Barnett guy for a couple hours on C-SPAN this weekend, this high priest of military war doctrine at the Military War College, and he said it's new world order, it's globalization, we're going to take over the whole planet.

01:03:31.000 I mean, I've got to get that guy on.

01:03:32.000 His new book is The Pentagon's New Map.

01:03:36.000 And they just came right out with it, but thanks for the call.

01:03:38.000 I appreciate it, Ed.

01:03:39.000 More calls and Dr. Breeding coming up, so again, please stay with us.

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01:07:02.000 Force metal screening hits roadblock in-house.

01:07:06.000 Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program to cause use of drugs on children.

01:07:11.000 Representative Ron Paul, Republican, Texas, plans to offer an amendment in the House of Representatives today that would remove from an appropriations bill a new mandatory mental health screening program for America's children.

01:07:22.000 The American tradition of parents deciding what is best for their children is yet again under attack, writes Kent Snyder of the Paul-founded Liberty Committee.

01:07:30.000 The pharmacological industry has convinced President Bush to support mandatory mental health screening for every child in America, including preschool children, and industry is now working to convince Congress as well.

01:07:43.000 The new Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only of children, but eventually for every American, and that's to have a job under your national ID card, I've seen Red say that, The initiative came out of the new Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.

01:07:59.000 Critics of the plan say it is a thinly-veiled attempt by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and anti-psychotic medication, and puts government in areas of Americans' lives where it does not belong.

01:08:12.000 Wright Snyder, the real payoff of the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result, as we learned tragically with Ritalin and even when parents refused.

01:08:21.000 Paul's amendment to the Labor, HHS, and Education Appropriations Act for fiscal year '05 would take the new program out of the funding bill.

01:08:30.000 The congressman, who is known for his strict adherence of the Constitution, wrote in a letter to his colleagues, as you know, and he's a medical doctor, by the way, psychiatric drugs are increasingly prescribed for children who show nothing more than children's typical rambunctious behavior.

01:08:47.000 Many children have suffered harmful effects from these drugs, yet some parents have even been charged with child abuse for refusing to drug their children.

01:08:56.000 The federal government should not promote national mental health screening programs that will force the use of these anti-psychotic drugs such as Ritalin.

01:09:05.000 Now, or psychiatric drugs such as Ritalin.

01:09:07.000 And it says the new Freedom Commission found that despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for consumers of all ages.

01:09:18.000 Now this was set up, the model of this, in Austin in the early 1990s.

01:09:23.000 It is openly run by a consortium of drug companies.

01:09:26.000 They come up with studies that they find with hundreds of new mental illnesses a year, Europe is now doing the exact same thing.

01:09:35.000 I have articles right here.

01:09:36.000 Mental health and world citizenship.

01:09:39.000 Another article out of Illinois.

01:09:41.000 Illinois launches compulsory mental health screening for children and pregnant women.

01:09:46.000 Here's another one from the British Medical Association.

01:09:50.000 Bush to screen population for mental illness.

01:09:52.000 We have all these posted on InfoWars.com.

01:09:57.000 Now understand, The fight just isn't at Congress, and it's very important there.

01:10:01.000 This is to fund it with tens of billions of dollars, to fund, to have drug company reps in the schools.

01:10:06.000 Folks, I have the plan.

01:10:09.000 Some of their own officials have gone public and blown the whistle, because they have a heart and a conscience and a soul.

01:10:15.000 And don't want to be... I mean, this isn't just Ritalin and Prozac, now it's anti-psychotics.

01:10:19.000 New stuff that the patents haven't run out on.

01:10:23.000 Deadly stuff that can kill people.

01:10:25.000 That causes brain damage.

01:10:27.000 Understand, 10 states have already implemented this.

01:10:31.000 Others are implementing it.

01:10:32.000 You've got to fight it at a state level.

01:10:34.000 And to help fight that, Dr. Breeding, who I challenged, has done a great job to come up with a plan, a legal form to put schools and hospitals on notice.

01:10:48.000 And yes, folks, even when we've had children at the hospitals, they come in and do the mental health aid and you have to say no.

01:10:53.000 It's already going on, folks.

01:10:56.000 And this all goes into a database.

01:10:58.000 This is the new America. 0.51

01:11:00.000 It's out of control.

01:11:01.000 It is so Orwellian.

01:11:02.000 It is so Huxleyian. 0.92

01:11:04.000 Brave new world.

01:11:05.000 You've got to fight this at the local level.

01:11:07.000 This is pure Soviet Nazi systems. 0.84

01:11:10.000 The Nazis and Soviets used this. 0.87

01:11:13.000 Hey Alex, it's good to be back with you.

01:11:15.000 Dr. Breeding, my producer was gone.

01:11:17.000 We didn't get your number to the network.

01:11:18.000 I didn't have it on me, so I'm sorry.

01:11:20.000 We're getting you on late, but we'll keep you into the next hour.

01:11:22.000 If you can stay with us, good to have you on, my friend.

01:11:24.000 Hey, Alex.

01:11:25.000 It's good to be back with you.

01:11:27.000 I appreciate you carrying on this fight for us all here.

01:11:31.000 Well, you're doing it too, and you've done a great job.

01:11:33.000 And unfortunately, I think your proposal, a way to block this, was so popular that you've got a server notice up saying you went over your bandwidth.

01:11:41.000 I hope you get more bandwidth and get your website back up.

01:11:44.000 But a lot of sites have mirrored your proposal, and we'll try to get that out to people.

01:11:50.000 Well, we got it back up.

01:11:51.000 Okay, good.

01:11:52.000 We'll give that out.

01:11:52.000 You got it back up.

01:11:53.000 Go ahead and give folks your website.

01:11:55.000 It's wildestcolds.com.

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:58.000 W-I-L-D-E-S-T-C-O-L-T-S dot com.

01:12:02.000 And from there you can click on right to this.

01:12:05.000 We call it a declaration of refusal to comply with any new Freedom Commission mandate for universal health, mental health screening of children in the schools.

01:12:14.000 Okay, let's stop right there.

01:12:15.000 For those that just joined us, it's hard to Overstate how evil and focused and crafted this is by corporations who literally don't just want to make hundreds of billions of dollars, but also want to take control of the society.

01:12:30.000 But can you, in a nutshell, go over this for us?

01:12:33.000 Yeah.

01:12:34.000 Well, you mentioned that the thing is linked to what started in Texas in the early mid-90s.

01:12:41.000 It's called the Texas Medication Algorithm Project, and basically what that means is it's a formulary Kind of thing that says if this disease then this drug or specifically if this mental illness then this drug.

01:12:55.000 If ADHD then Ritalin if that doesn't work then Adderall.

01:12:58.000 If depression then Paxil or Prozac or whatever and if that doesn't work then electroshock.

01:13:03.000 So it's basically a formula that says you diagnose this supposed illness then you give this drug and the drugs as you mentioned are the ones that happen to be the main profit points for the For the drug companies.

01:13:17.000 And so this is started in Texas.

01:13:18.000 It's called TMAP.

01:13:20.000 It's implemented in the Medicaid programs.

01:13:23.000 It's implemented in the prisons.

01:13:24.000 It's implemented in various places.

01:13:26.000 We're trying to investigate and sort that out and examine the money flows exactly.

01:13:31.000 But what happened with the drug companies were very intimately tied to the people who got appointed to design TMAP in Texas.

01:13:41.000 Most, a large percentage of the people who got appointed to the New Freedom Commission by President Bush have links directly to TMAP here in Texas, and we've been able to document all that.

01:13:53.000 So this New Freedom Commission, and it is Orwellian, I mean, New Freedom, right?

01:13:58.000 You know, we call it New Intrusion Initiative or whatever, but New Freedom Commission.

01:14:03.000 These people are intimately linked to TMAP, which is intimately linked to the drug companies And so what sounds like, oh, we're caring about your children, we want to look for problems so we can help them as soon as possible, is really about, we're throwing out a drag net to bring more kids in.

01:14:20.000 Yeah, this puts drug reps into all the schools now, and it's going to be for adults too, and I want to go over that, but for those that just joined us, imagine a science fiction movie in theaters, where every public school is really a psychiatric laboratory Where the curriculum is psychological testing, and spying on your parents, and semester classes with police, how to be tattletales, and tattletale cards.

01:14:46.000 I mean, this is the new America, and they brag!

01:14:48.000 We've had Charlotte Isserby on many times, former Deputy Head of the Department of Education under Reagan, and she's got a book the size of a phone book full of documents.

01:14:55.000 They say, this is where they're going to train us how to be prisoners, and institutionalize the entire population, Dr. Breeding.

01:15:04.000 Well, the New Freedom Commission very specifically and clearly says that they want to screen all children and adults in the public schools for signs of possible mental illness.

01:15:19.000 They see the schools as the place where children are, so there are 52 million children and 6 million adults.

01:15:29.000 You know, there's already at least 9 million, maybe more, school-aged children on psychiatric drugs.

01:15:35.000 That's over 15% of the population.

01:15:37.000 But that's not enough.

01:15:38.000 They're saying that there's large numbers that are undiagnosed.

01:15:42.000 So we do this screening, we can find another 20% or so, and that's the dynamic.

01:15:48.000 And it's cast in this rhetoric of You know, we really care about our children.

01:15:52.000 We really want to meet their needs.

01:15:53.000 Well, how did humans 6,000 years ago survive without having 35% of the children on pharmacological drugs?

01:16:01.000 Or even 50 years ago.

01:16:03.000 I mean, I guess, were there drug bushes that grew and we were all mentally ill and we had the drug bushes?

01:16:11.000 How did we suddenly discover Ritalin deficiencies and Prozac deficiencies and Zypraxa deficiencies, you know?

01:16:18.000 It just happens to correlate with the pharmaceutical industry finding a major growth point with these psychotropic drugs and then specifically a huge growth market with children and an onslaught of Well, I want to stop right there, because I've got the medical inserts on these drugs.

01:16:39.000 These things admittedly, and even officials have gone public and said that these things kill people, they brain damage.

01:16:45.000 Not just Ritalin and Prozac.

01:16:46.000 These new ones are even more deadly.

01:16:48.000 Well, you mentioned, I mean, Ritalin, you know, we have 186 Ritalin-related heart deaths reported to the FDA in the 1990s on a voluntary reporting system.

01:16:59.000 That's estimated to be 1% to 10% of the actual incidence.

01:17:02.000 So that's potentially over 18,000 deaths in the 1990s on that one drug alone.

01:17:08.000 Prozac and Paxil and Zoloft, these antidepressants, are now being very clearly revealed that they link to causing suicide in the percentage of people who take them, and that that information was suppressed by the drug companies and the FDA.

01:17:22.000 That's coming out now.

01:17:24.000 And then also you mentioned the antipsychotics, which are the Zypraxa, Risperdal, all those kind of drugs.

01:17:29.000 Those are the drugs that are known to cause permanent neurological damage in almost anybody who takes them for very long.

01:17:37.000 They've unleashed the largest neurological epidemic in the history of the world.

01:17:40.000 It's called tardive dyskinesia.

01:17:42.000 We've got millions of people walking around with this neurological disease caused by these antipsychotics.

01:17:47.000 And we're having an exponential, many hundred percent increase in the last few years of children as young as one or two years old being placed on these drugs.

01:17:57.000 I mean, this is not This is not any kind of fiction.

01:18:01.000 This is the reality.

01:18:02.000 And that's while the brain is growing.

01:18:03.000 That's while the brain is growing, and then when they're all screwed up in permanent vegetables, they drug them for life.

01:18:09.000 You start the kids young, it creates tolerance and dependency, you know, it alters the brain function, and plus it labels them with the idea that they have a mental illness, which Everybody knows, quote unquote, is due to a biological or genetic defect.

01:18:25.000 We've got a break.

01:18:27.000 We've got a break, doctor.

01:18:27.000 We'll come back with that and start going to some calls early in this interview.

01:18:31.000 But we'll talk about the plan you've got to fight this.

01:18:33.000 It's very effective.

01:18:35.000 But understand, people, think of the devil himself.

01:18:39.000 I mean, how evil this is.

01:18:40.000 This is like something the devil would come up with.

01:18:43.000 Tens of thousands of babies on this stuff.

01:18:46.000 We'll be back with Dr. Breeding.

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01:23:11.000 I know several children.

01:23:13.000 I know people who have 6 foot tall parents who are now 18 years old because they were on Ritalin for 5 years and they're 5 foot 2.

01:23:21.000 And their other brother who isn't is 6 foot 2.

01:23:25.000 I mean, I've seen it.

01:23:26.000 But since all this is out, because it comes out that they covered up the huge suicide increase, what do the drug companies do?

01:23:32.000 They come back with, oh we're going to force you all on it!

01:23:37.000 And the schools are also being turned into systems to process you into the criminal justice system, or into welfare.

01:23:42.000 Any way to get the state in control of you, and so the corporations can profit from you.

01:23:47.000 Now I know that we have Andrea, and Jim, and Jimmy, and Dave, and Peter, and Al.

01:23:53.000 We'll get to all of you quickly in the next segment, but we're talking to My good friend, Dr. John Breeding.

01:24:00.000 Doctor, right now, let's talk about the plan you've got at the state level to put these drug reps, these control freaks, these literal Nazi demons on notice when they try to force you or your children into psychiatric systems or drugs.

01:24:17.000 Tell folks about it.

01:24:18.000 Yeah.

01:24:18.000 Well, actually, this is state and federal in the sense that we're recruiting signatories from all over the country, and then we can sort them out by state for people to use in their individual states.

01:24:28.000 But basically, it's a declaration of refusal.

01:24:31.000 You know, it's a statement of what's going on with the New Freedom Commission, and then ultimately it's a place where it says, We, the undersigned, solemnly declare that we will not allow our children to be the subjects of any form of implementation of new freedom recommendations to screen our children for signs of mental illness.

01:24:50.000 It also says, We promise to actively resist further intrusion of psychiatry into the schools, will not cooperate with those who act as agents of this wrongheaded initiative, etc., And so basically what we've got is we've got this posted up.

01:25:05.000 We've only had it up for two days and we've already got close to a thousand signatures.

01:25:10.000 We plan to get several thousand within the next week and on from there.

01:25:15.000 And then we're going to use this just to get a lot more media attention, and then specifically with administrators and politicians.

01:25:22.000 It's just part of the effort to show that there is massive resistance to this kind of idea, and it will not be implemented.

01:25:28.000 And then also individual parents can use this as well.

01:25:37.000 But we're going to definitely use it on a group.

01:25:39.000 Well, you know how they operate.

01:25:41.000 They'll just change the name in a year or so.

01:25:43.000 They're trying to fund it right now.

01:25:45.000 It's already in 10 states.

01:25:46.000 They've got $20 million in this bill today.

01:25:49.000 This is sort of like the new Freedom Commission, right?

01:25:53.000 Really, it's so-called the new Intrusion Draconian Commission.

01:25:58.000 Doug Orwellian, doublespeak, is incredible.

01:26:01.000 They've got $20 million in this bill that Ron Paul is challenging that you mentioned.

01:26:06.000 are called State Incentive Transformation Grants.

01:26:09.000 I mean, give me a break.

01:26:11.000 But basically they're trying to get these pilot programs.

01:26:13.000 And you're right, Alex.

01:26:14.000 We don't have any illusions that this is not an ongoing onslaught and an ongoing battle.

01:26:22.000 Well, Doctor, notice what they do.

01:26:23.000 They're caught in pure evil.

01:26:24.000 They're caught in corruption.

01:26:25.000 They're caught toxifying and murdering children.

01:26:29.000 They consciously are creating all these new illnesses.

01:26:32.000 The schools are being turned into this.

01:26:34.000 And then we're countering them.

01:26:35.000 It's all coming out.

01:26:36.000 So they go, we'll just increase what we're doing tenfold and see how you like that.

01:26:41.000 Yeah.

01:26:42.000 Well, it starts with, you know, we deny it.

01:26:44.000 It's not happening.

01:26:45.000 Like, kids, this does not cause suicide.

01:26:48.000 And then when you force them to face it, they say, well, it's not that bad.

01:26:52.000 And then when they have to face it, they say, well, it's the victim's fault anyway.

01:26:56.000 You know, they're suiciding because of their mental illness rather than the drugs.

01:27:00.000 So, you're right.

01:27:02.000 There's no conscience there.

01:27:03.000 There's no morality there.

01:27:05.000 There's just major money to be made.

01:27:08.000 And they unfortunately have government and institutional support and so we've got a big fight.

01:27:13.000 But ultimately it does come down to, just as with all your work does, it comes down to individual people saying, we will not cooperate.

01:27:22.000 And that's what I like about this particular initiative.

01:27:24.000 It's getting people to make a commitment and make a statement that says, we will not cooperate.

01:27:29.000 We refuse to comply.

01:27:31.000 And to put that right in their face.

01:27:35.000 Well, Doctor, whatever happened to the Fifth Amendment or the Fourth Amendment?

01:27:39.000 This is an intrusion into your mind with phony baloney guidelines that are a fraud themselves.

01:27:48.000 This is an intrusion into your Fifth Amendment.

01:27:50.000 I mean, you've got to sign a permission slip for your child to go to the zoo or the planetarium But you don't have to sign a permission slip for them to sit them down and do psychological testing on them twice a year.

01:28:02.000 And then the plan says for adults as well.

01:28:04.000 And now Illinois is moving to make pregnant women do it. 1.00

01:28:07.000 They're going to start in Illinois with bringing social workers in to get with all the pregnant moms and make sure they're not memorial. 1.00

01:28:16.000 So that's where they want to get everybody.

01:28:18.000 You're right.

01:28:18.000 And it is a tremendous A violation of informed consent and a tremendous violation of the right to privacy.

01:28:25.000 That's part of our argument in this declaration.

01:28:27.000 You got it.

01:28:28.000 Oh, it's amazing.

01:28:29.000 I mean, you know, the nice old lady comes to your door in these, you know, these preschool programs. 1.00

01:28:33.000 Oh, I'm here to help you, Mommy.

01:28:35.000 And really, she's going back on her poor day looking for dirt to take your children. 1.00

01:28:38.000 Because the state wants to fill its institutions.

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01:32:31.000 My friends, the nature of power is that the individuals who are ruthless get into positions of power.

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01:32:42.000 They call it social Darwinism. 0.99

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01:32:51.000 And we're not embellishing.

01:32:52.000 We don't have words to describe how evil this new freedom initiative is.

01:32:56.000 How out of control it is.

01:32:58.000 How openly un-American it is.

01:33:01.000 And I hope you'll go to Dr. Breeding's website and sign up for the petition.

01:33:04.000 I hope you'll spread the word about it.

01:33:06.000 We need to create forms as well to resist all of these initiatives going on in the schools.

01:33:11.000 It's going on in schools all over.

01:33:13.000 It's going on in hospitals.

01:33:14.000 You're just not being told about it, folks.

01:33:17.000 I've run into it.

01:33:18.000 Okay?

01:33:19.000 I ran into it in high school decades and decades ago.

01:33:23.000 Okay, I've run into it at the hospital.

01:33:25.000 I've seen it everywhere.

01:33:26.000 It's going on under other names.

01:33:28.000 Now they want to make it the law and make you do it.

01:33:31.000 Before we go back to Dr. Breeding, and I promise we'll go to Andrea, and Jimmy, and Dave, and Peter, and Al, and others.

01:33:37.000 Before we do that though, we had a lot of requests for this.

01:33:41.000 I heard it a few days ago.

01:33:42.000 Here it is one more time.

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01:33:46.000 C-SPAN is set up inside the security perimeter at Madison Square Garden, right outside.

01:33:51.000 There's helicopters swarming above us, Big W projected on the side of a skyscraper, police with machine guns and sound cannons all around us, and they've got the delegates up there worshipping Bush and, you know, just all the things he's doing.

01:34:05.000 So I got on C-SPAN.

01:34:06.000 I had been asking for a while to get on.

01:34:08.000 They said, no, no, just delegates.

01:34:09.000 I said, you know, that's wrong.

01:34:11.000 C-SPAN has talked about me for hours before and attacked me.

01:34:13.000 Why don't you let me on?

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01:34:21.000 So here it is, folks.

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01:34:27.000 And Susan, of course, the floor is empty, but they're here, and let we be accused of not hearing all voices.

01:34:32.000 We cut you off a moment ago.

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01:34:38.000 Both candidates are cousins.

01:34:40.000 They're skull and bones.

01:34:41.000 They're bringing in big government and tyranny. 0.92

01:34:43.000 The evidence is clear.

01:34:43.000 The military-industrial complex was intimately involved in 9-11.

01:34:47.000 The commission is a complete fraud.

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01:35:06.000 Everybody should investigate 9-11 and find out who's really behind it.

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01:35:18.000 Alright, and I just wanted to get Dr. Breeding's take on this.

01:35:21.000 It's another issue, but we're keeping him on until the next hour.

01:35:23.000 If he can stay with us, we're about to go to your calls.

01:35:25.000 Dr. Breeding, were you aware of this new Zogby Poll?

01:35:28.000 Half of New Yorkers believe U.S.

01:35:30.000 government had foreknowledge and purposefully, consciously failed to act.

01:35:37.000 Half of New Yorkers, including conservatives, believe that there was prior knowledge.

01:35:43.000 And Hispanics, 75.6% in New York in a Zogby Poll, believe the U.S.

01:35:48.000 government was behind it.

01:35:49.000 63% of women believe it.

01:35:53.000 What are they going to do when, you know, all of us believe this and there's one percent up there saying we're all kooks?

01:35:59.000 Do you have any comments?

01:36:00.000 I mean, because the most horrible, unbelievable things now are becoming commonplace.

01:36:05.000 People are believing what we're telling them because we're able to give them the facts.

01:36:08.000 Do you have any comments on this issue?

01:36:10.000 Oh, I think it's just a tremendous impact that you're having with your work and, you know, the thought is, like, you know, how is it that People are able to hold that one fact somewhere in the mind and at the same time really like and support George Bush because he's making it safe from terror in America.

01:36:38.000 It's mind boggling.

01:36:41.000 At some point it shifts.

01:36:43.000 At some point if you wake up to the truth enough and become aware enough you can't live with that kind of I mean, here's an example.

01:36:54.000 I'm in New York City, threatened with arrest three times a day, watch reporters getting arrested.

01:36:59.000 They're aiming sound cannons at us.

01:37:01.000 There's no law we can't videotape in the city, but they keep arresting people doing it.

01:37:05.000 I mean, where's our First Amendment?

01:37:07.000 You know, it's not just that they want to force drug us and force psychologically test us.

01:37:11.000 Now they want to draft us.

01:37:13.000 Uh, and that's slavery. 1.00

01:37:14.000 Now they want to arrest us for protesting peaceably with permitted protest.

01:37:19.000 I mean, it's every freedom we've got is under attack, and everything the government's doing with corporations controlling it is about taking our choice and our freedom away.

01:37:28.000 This is classical slavery on a hundred fronts.

01:37:32.000 Well, two thoughts, you know.

01:37:34.000 One is just about you as a model, you know, in the onslaught of all that All that stimulation, all that oppression, all that confusion.

01:37:42.000 You know, you gave a 40 second statement that was just crystal clear and jammed with information.

01:37:49.000 I mean, I was just amazed.

01:37:50.000 You know, so that's the ability of a focused mind, you know, to express itself in the midst of all that.

01:37:55.000 So I commend you for that.

01:37:57.000 Secondly, I heard, or I read this, and you can probably tell me if it's true, that one of the judges who was looking at all these cases of arrest up there, Find the City of New York $1,000 ahead for hundreds of these arrests, you know, because he was clear that these arrests were not proper arrests.

01:38:22.000 And so that kind of tension or dynamic, you know, forcing people into situations where the tyranny, as you say, where the oppression is clearly revealed for what it is, and it's not able to be hidden behind a smokescreen of of calling people terrorists or saying that they're disrupting or whatever.

01:38:40.000 So it's like that energy of being in the streets and that, it's got to have an effect.

01:38:46.000 It forces people, at least in times, to kind of have to face their conscience.

01:38:52.000 No, you're right.

01:38:53.000 It brought things to a head, and police would apologize in private with the cameras off, but in their group dynamic, and it's like German soldiers.

01:39:03.000 They weren't all bad, but in that group dynamic, they were very, very wicked.

01:39:07.000 And I totally agree with you, but...

01:39:10.000 You know, to be there in the middle of this and to see this tyranny did wake up a lot of people and you're absolutely right.

01:39:17.000 Right, the judge was fining them $500 per head for every 30 minutes that they held people past the date, and they held over 1,000 people eight hours after the judge's order.

01:39:34.000 Last time I heard it was like five hundred thousand dollars.

01:39:36.000 Wow.

01:39:37.000 And I was there Dr. Breeding.

01:39:38.000 They put them in a camp with asbestos in the harbor in a condemned building and made the cops work in there and put people 30 to 40 in a cage in barbed wire, literal barbed wire cages, inside an un-air-conditioned building.

01:39:55.000 And they didn't even charge them.

01:39:57.000 They would just arrest whole streets of people, old ladies, people in wheelchairs, reporters, tourists.

01:40:03.000 It didn't matter.

01:40:06.000 And there's photos and video of this, and we got it.

01:40:10.000 There's photos all over the web.

01:40:12.000 People went down to the police station, central booking, where they would be taken by bus and then taken in and booked after they'd been in the camp for a day or so.

01:40:18.000 And people put notes up, like they did in Germany or like they did in Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge.

01:40:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:27.000 Well, let's just pray that that just continues the process of really waking people up and radicalizing people, you know, to the fact that, you know, the veneer of civility and indecency is a very thin veneer.

01:40:54.000 Yeah.

01:40:55.000 It is.

01:40:56.000 Now, I've been rambling on.

01:40:57.000 I appreciate Dr. Breeding putting up with me as usual, but give folks your website again and tell them how to sign up for this petition.

01:41:02.000 Yeah, wildestcults.com.

01:41:05.000 www.wildestcults.com.

01:41:08.000 Right there on the very front of the first page, a declaration of refusal to comply.

01:41:12.000 You can read the document.

01:41:15.000 It'll detail the information as far as why this Would be something to support, but the main thing is that you sign it and it basically says we, the undersigned, solemnly declare that we will not allow our children to be the subjects of this governmental kind of action.

01:41:31.000 So this is a declaration of independence against this pharmacological tyranny and mass murder, folks.

01:41:38.000 That's right.

01:41:39.000 And by signing on, you will be supporting this effort and really giving us some leverage with the press and with the politicians.

01:41:47.000 You know, we want We want thousands of people to sign up.

01:41:50.000 Everybody who's listening to Alex Jones Show today, sign up this thing and then Alex can come on in the next couple of days and say, hey, we got 10,000 signatures yesterday from this show.

01:41:59.000 That's what I'd like to hear.

01:42:01.000 You just put it up a few days ago, already over 1,000 and it's spreading across the net.

01:42:01.000 Absolutely.

01:42:07.000 We're about to go to your call.

01:42:08.000 I just want to add that we carry two of Dr. Breeding's books.

01:42:11.000 Both get into how to really raise children, great ideas, how to stop them from being drugged, what the drugs really do, Waldus Colts, Make the Best Horses is one of the books, and there's another great book.

01:42:21.000 The other one is called True Nature and Great Misunderstandings.

01:42:24.000 It really supports Alex and me both for you to get these books.

01:42:27.000 And the nice thing about them is besides really challenging this phenomenon of psychiatric drugging and explaining how that works, it also, they're just really fresh.

01:42:37.000 reminders of what children are really like and what our job really is as adults and really support for how to really remember the nature of children, how to really meet their needs, how to really think of them, free from all this nonsense that says they're sick, they're mentally ill, they're defective.

01:42:52.000 No, really, they're glorious, they're wonderful, they're unique, they're self-determining, they don't want to be controlled.

01:42:58.000 It's these kind of reminders and support for that.

01:43:01.000 I mean, they've got this mind and everything is so fresh and new, and then we enslave them in the society with this Prussian model that is kindergarten does this to them.

01:43:01.000 Well, exactly.

01:43:11.000 Get these books, folks, Infowars.com or PresentPlanet.com.

01:43:16.000 Let's go to Andrea in Ohio who called in earlier and wanted to talk to you, then Jimmy and everybody else.

01:43:21.000 Go ahead, Andrea.

01:43:22.000 Yes.

01:43:23.000 I'm on your email list too, Doctor, and I really can't say enough how much of a resource it is.

01:43:31.000 One of the things that has struck me in reading all the literature, I think the reason a lot of people assume that the mental health screening is benevolent is because they think, "Oh, well, I don't have a mental illness.

01:43:44.000 My child doesn't.

01:43:46.000 They assume, they really don't ask themselves... But these are nice people and these guidelines weren't written by the drug companies.

01:43:53.000 They don't ask themselves, okay, what criteria are they going to base the screening on?

01:44:02.000 Is it going to be psychological?

01:44:05.000 Is it going to be thought processes?

01:44:08.000 Is it going to be ideology?

01:44:10.000 Is it going to be what you think about certain issues, you know, and even the psychological tests can have some pretty subjective questions on them.

01:44:22.000 Oh, they're totally subjective.

01:44:23.000 You got the key point, Andrea, and I recognize your name.

01:44:25.000 It's good to hear your voice.

01:44:26.000 Yes.

01:44:27.000 Yeah.

01:44:28.000 The diagnoses are totally subjective and they're taking normal child behaviors like a lot of energy, a lot of excitement, talking out of turn, getting out of your seat.

01:44:38.000 These things are pathologized as criteria of mental illness and they're totally subjective.

01:44:44.000 They're mostly an expression of adult discomfort with The energy of children or with a child's discomfort.

01:44:52.000 We'll ask a 13-year-old girl or boy, do you get upset?

01:44:52.000 Here's an example.

01:44:55.000 Do you seem confused?

01:44:57.000 Well, that's natural.

01:44:58.000 That's part of the screening for depression for teenagers.

01:45:03.000 That's exactly how it happens.

01:45:05.000 A friend of mine at church one time was telling me that they put her husband on medication, like an anger management thing, and he was beginning to calm down.

01:45:16.000 She didn't know quite how to deal with it, and their answer to it was, well, you need to be on medication, too.

01:45:24.000 Again, there's a euphemism here.

01:45:26.000 It's called medication.

01:45:28.000 It's really a drug, because a medication is something that's used to treat a verified illness in the form of a physical or chemical abnormality, like a cancer tumor or a blood sugar imbalance.

01:45:38.000 They call speed, they call amphetamine, they call downers, they call these things medication.

01:45:46.000 And they're not.

01:45:48.000 They're powerful pharmaceutical agents, that's for sure.

01:45:51.000 Alright, well Andrea, thank you so much for your call.

01:45:53.000 I appreciate it.

01:45:54.000 Jimmy in Texas, you're on the air.

01:45:56.000 Go ahead.

01:45:59.000 Greetings.

01:46:00.000 I am signed up and since I have signed up I have seen that lots of other people have.

01:46:05.000 Alright.

01:46:06.000 God bless you.

01:46:07.000 I'm scared, man. 0.99

01:46:08.000 I've got a four-year-old and I've got another one on the way and damn, I mean, sorry. 0.96

01:46:15.000 It's unbelievable, and Alex, can you speak to me about the current psychology that I have, the coming New World Order. 0.97

01:46:23.000 Man, I feel like it's already here, dude, and I'm about to be in tears.

01:46:27.000 Well, they have new mental illnesses, a bunch of different criteria, if you don't trust authority, if you question.

01:46:34.000 Doctor, what are those new specific diagnoses called?

01:46:37.000 Well, first of all, let me just say that being in tears is a healthy response to the oppression of our children.

01:46:43.000 So bless you for that.

01:46:45.000 Beyond that, you might be suffering from Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

01:46:51.000 It's called ODD.

01:46:53.000 You might be suffering from Conduct Disorder.

01:46:56.000 You might be suffering, if you really get out loud like Alex Jones, you might be suffering from SDPD, Severely Dangerous Personality Disorder.

01:47:06.000 So there are these diagnoses that really are an expression of calling defiance of authority a pathology.

01:47:15.000 Can I make one appeal to the country before I hang up because my battery is low and that is you need to love your children a little bit more.

01:47:23.000 You need to hold them and you need to play with them and get off of your sports and get off of your porn and you need You get your children off those drugs. 0.99

01:47:33.000 I know people who have their children on drugs, and it's ridiculous. 0.96

01:47:36.000 There's not enough love coming out from the rest of us.

01:47:38.000 Thank you.

01:47:39.000 I agree.

01:47:39.000 If people really love their children, they would get to the bottom of this and stop worshipping sports and possessions and start caring about your family.

01:47:49.000 Let's... Let me give you a quick irony on this, Alex.

01:47:52.000 I heard yesterday that there was a group of Russian psychologists that were consulting on a project over here, and they were looking at the fact that we have millions of school-age children on stimulant drugs and speed and like that in this country.

01:48:09.000 It's kind of ironic because we think of the Russians as doing this suppression of dissonance with psychiatry, which they did 20 years ago. 0.80

01:48:17.000 But these Russian psychologists were looking at this, and they say, where's the loving?

01:48:22.000 Don't you love your children?

01:48:23.000 Why do you put them all on drugs?

01:48:25.000 So Jimmy's right.

01:48:27.000 Thank you.

01:48:28.000 It's amazing.

01:48:29.000 I mean, come on, folks.

01:48:31.000 Just read what this stuff does to your children.

01:48:33.000 I mean, it's on the package.

01:48:35.000 Oh, but a doctor told me.

01:48:36.000 Yeah, Dr. Mingelis said stuff, too.

01:48:39.000 Dave in Oklahoma.

01:48:40.000 Dave, go ahead.

01:48:43.000 Yeah, I think the new freedom is a great thing, just because it's going to give the American people some much-needed practice in saying no and not complying.

01:48:53.000 We've got plenty of opportunities for that.

01:48:55.000 Well, we're going to need some practice for the draft and for the microchips and et cetera.

01:49:00.000 What I really called about, though, Alex, was you made a comment earlier, and I was kind of wondering, you said I support Israel.

01:49:08.000 I was wondering what you meant by Israel.

01:49:11.000 I support Jewish people.

01:49:12.000 I support German people.

01:49:14.000 I support Chinese people.

01:49:15.000 I support people being able to live in peace.

01:49:19.000 But I said the people running Israel do not support Israel and arm China and arm Iran.

01:49:26.000 And as Barry Hamish and others have said, really want to destroy Israel, and the people of Israel are just as enslaved to their government as the Palestinians are.

01:49:35.000 So that was the point I was making.

01:49:37.000 You want to stay there and talk about it some more?

01:49:38.000 Yeah.

01:49:39.000 Stay there, Dave.

01:49:40.000 Yeah, I don't hate Israel, folks, like some people do.

01:49:44.000 No, no, I don't like the New World Order.

01:49:47.000 So I've gotten above the false paradigm.

01:49:50.000 We'll be right back.

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01:53:07.000 I've got to get into this Russia plans preemptive strikes against global terror bases.

01:53:11.000 Well, funny, I was watching a thing taped a month ago.

01:53:15.000 The Pentagon's new map where the Pentagon was saying, we're going to work with Russia and China.

01:53:20.000 We're going to take over the Middle East and Africa. 1.00

01:53:22.000 We're going to kill all the terrorists. 1.00

01:53:23.000 We're going to have a one world government to do all this. 0.99

01:53:26.000 And Russia's now our friend.

01:53:27.000 See, China's our friend. 0.91

01:53:29.000 And they can stage these terror attacks themselves.

01:53:32.000 We've caught them doing it.

01:53:33.000 And then they'll take over the planet.

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01:54:29.000 Alright, talking to Dave in Oklahoma.

01:54:33.000 Dave, you know, Jews did go, Israelites did go into what is Jerusalem today, that is a Jewish city.

01:54:42.000 I think that Arabs have a right to live there, Christians.

01:54:45.000 I don't support a lot of the things Israel does. 0.98

01:54:47.000 Creating terror groups, carrying out terror attacks against their own people, that's even in their own newspapers. 0.64

01:54:53.000 But at the same time, I'll acknowledge that Saudi Arabia will kill Christians on the spot or outside their compounds. 0.98

01:54:58.000 They're after Christians. 1.00

01:55:00.000 So I don't just fall down and worship some of the radical Muslim elements that I don't think reflect most Muslims I've talked to or most Muslim countries, but some of them are out of control. 0.99

01:55:10.000 And those are the very Muslim countries that are actually protected by big oil and the military-industrial complex. 0.90

01:55:16.000 And the nations we go in and bring down are the ones that weren't a threat to the West.

01:55:20.000 So I hope you get what I'm saying.

01:55:22.000 It's not just a two-dimensional thing here.

01:55:25.000 It's a three-dimensional... Oh, I totally understand, Alex.

01:55:27.000 And I'm talking about the big picture here, about Israel.

01:55:30.000 I mean, we know that they're created by the UN at the end of World War II.

01:55:35.000 Yes.

01:55:37.000 I mean, the U.N.

01:55:38.000 didn't have the power to do that, but yet they did it.

01:55:41.000 And, uh, the point is that we know from the Freemason... Actually, the U.N.

01:55:46.000 never really did that, and they criticized Israel and played a double game.

01:55:50.000 It was the U.S. 0.77

01:55:50.000 and England that really did that. 0.77

01:55:52.000 Okay, well, it was the globalists, in other words.

01:55:54.000 See, there was always the plan to have three world wars, the third one being a religious war, and Israel was set up as the provocator state. 0.89

01:56:03.000 I don't have anything against the people of Israel, but the state of Israel is set up as a provocation for the latest world war. 1.00

01:56:09.000 Yeah, the way the state of Israel is set up is to expand the new world order, okay? 0.90

01:56:14.000 And that's what I've always tried to point out, is that it's a counterfeit, and I appreciate your call.

01:56:18.000 Dr. Breeding, I know it's a whole other issue, but do you have any comments on that?

01:56:23.000 Well, I have a lot of... I haven't articulated this as much as you have, but I think I agree with most of what you're saying.

01:56:32.000 I don't like it that you're refusing to get caught in a position that you're scapegoating or pathologizing individual peoples or individual races or individual nations.

01:56:44.000 I think it's very clear to say that over and over again.

01:56:47.000 I have a lot of sympathy with the oppression of Palestinians, and I don't have a lot of sympathy with the policies of the Israeli state, just like I don't have any sympathy with the policies of the United States as a state. 0.63

01:57:03.000 And I see the policies of Israel and the policies of the United States as very much interrelated, so I agree.

01:57:09.000 You know, they're both oriented towards aggression and exploitation and conquest, and they're not really inclined towards reconciliation and communication and diplomacy and really working with people.

01:57:20.000 Absolutely.

01:57:22.000 We're going to start the third hour.

01:57:24.000 Dr. Murady, you can stay with us, can't you?

01:57:25.000 Can you stay with us, Doctor?

01:57:28.000 Yes, sir.

01:57:29.000 I appreciate that.

01:57:29.000 Good.

01:57:30.000 And we'll go to Peter and Tom and Mike and others.

01:57:34.000 We'll continue with the mass drugging, mass psychological testing, And we'll get into a bunch of other news, so stay with us.

01:57:40.000 Third hour coming up.

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01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Most governments are run by tyrants. 0.87

01:58:11.000 Government is normally very corrupt and brutal.

01:58:16.000 Whether it's Saudi Arabia or Israel or now what the United States is turning into.

01:58:20.000 But Russia, and that's the point I was trying to make.

01:58:26.000 Now we'll get off into that, I'm sure, talking about Israel, but we do need to get into Russia's pre-emptive strikes against global terror bases.

01:58:36.000 Working with NATO, see?

01:58:38.000 They've been wanting to get Russia into NATO, now what's happening?

01:58:40.000 And I watched the Pentagon meeting on C-SPAN?

01:58:43.000 They're going to be our new ally, tromping around, and former KGB chiefs here helping set up Homeland Security.

01:58:48.000 I mean, this is so bizarre, it's like a bad science fiction novel.

01:58:55.000 You'd laugh at any novel that was this weird.

01:58:58.000 We're talking to John Breeding, though, and he is, of course, a psychologist and author who has exposed the forced drugging of American children and adults.

01:59:06.000 Alex, I think you know that they don't really have much chance in passing something this egregious straight up.

01:59:11.000 So they're going to pull back and then they're going to try to pass it piecemeal.

01:59:14.000 You know that.

01:59:15.000 Peter.

01:59:16.000 And Peter, where are you calling us from?

01:59:19.000 Welcome.

01:59:19.000 Missouri.

01:59:20.000 Thank you.

01:59:21.000 Alex, I think you know that they don't really have much chance in passing something this egregious straight up, so they're going to pull back and then they're going to try to pass a peace meal.

01:59:32.000 You know that.

01:59:33.000 The other point is that obviously this is a supposed benefit, and like all the other so-called benefits, It ties into the socialist slave state number, and...

01:59:46.000 And once you revoke that, they pretty well can't touch you.

01:59:50.000 But what I don't understand is why they think they have any chance of enforcing this whatsoever. 0.99

01:59:57.000 I mean, are people that stupid that they would actually Go forth for their so-called benefit. 0.99

02:00:04.000 Okay, well here's an example. 1.00

02:00:05.000 There's no law you have to take vaccines, but all over the country for a month, leading up to the new school year, they said it's the law, you have to do it, you'll be arrested.

02:00:13.000 It's color of law.

02:00:14.000 So you go to school, and the school is now one class is how to be a tattletale for the police, they even have those all over the country.

02:00:21.000 Another class is about How to be a good little psychiatric slave and what drugs to take.

02:00:26.000 And then the other class is, you know, how to be a good little global minion.

02:00:30.000 The schools are not about education anymore.

02:00:33.000 They're about indoctrination.

02:00:34.000 Dr. Breeding?

02:00:36.000 Well, the vaccines are a good parallel.

02:00:37.000 You know, they kept people out here in Austin.

02:00:39.000 I know they sent a lot of people home from school the first day because they didn't have their vaccines.

02:00:44.000 They didn't send them home with information that says, you know, here's the form that you have a right.

02:00:50.000 To be a conscientious objector to vaccines, you know, you have a right to not get your children vaccinated.

02:00:56.000 They didn't say that.

02:00:57.000 They said, you child cannot come to school until they're vaccinated.

02:01:01.000 And people complied.

02:01:02.000 That's a good example.

02:01:03.000 You know, the fact is that there's already over 9 million school-aged kids on psychiatric drugs.

02:01:09.000 That's 15% of the population. 1.00

02:01:11.000 Are people that stupid? 1.00

02:01:12.000 I don't know if it's stupidity, but it's definitely an apathy, a passivity, a naive trust of authority, a fear of authority. 1.00

02:01:22.000 All these things are challenging. 1.00

02:01:25.000 It's domestication.

02:01:27.000 Domestication of wildness.

02:01:28.000 That's why the book is called The Wildest Cults Make the Best Horses.

02:01:32.000 And that's why your show is about being wild and free.

02:01:34.000 It's domestication, which is a slave kind of mentality.

02:01:38.000 It's a passive state that depends on the caretaker, the owner, the masters to tell you what to do.

02:01:44.000 It's called, There's a Lot to Wake Up.

02:01:47.000 There's a lot to wake up to.

02:01:50.000 And the man's right.

02:01:51.000 It's an ongoing Effort is going to be piecemeal.

02:01:55.000 Part of this whole thing is about waking people up and getting them to sign on the line and to see what's going on and to take a position and build the strength to say no and build the strength to be a conscious human being, that kind of dynamic.

02:02:10.000 Anything else there, Peter?

02:02:12.000 Yeah, well, you know, it just sounds so outrageous on its face value that, I mean, even somebody who has been somewhat dumbed down and might even think that vaccinations are a good idea, even somebody who has been somewhat dumbed down and might even think that vaccinations are a good idea, that they would just passively go along because

02:02:38.000 10 million kids today in the United States on psych drugs for non-existent diseases.

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02:06:06.000 All right, Dr. Breeding, you were continuing to comment on what Peter was saying from Missouri.

02:06:19.000 You know, that's what amazes me is that I could be in New York and watch mainstream reporters arrested for standing on the sidewalk with big film crews videotaping the police arresting innocent people.

02:06:34.000 That they would have sound wave weapons that they're using in Iraq.

02:06:39.000 That I was in martial law, that there's no law to take vaccines, but the nightly news says it's a law, and the school administrator says it's a law, and then no one's able to call them on it.

02:06:49.000 I mean, it's just every... It's like lying about weapons of mass destruction and then saying they never said it was about weapons of mass destruction.

02:06:55.000 It's just... It's like people aren't... A lot of folks aren't waking up, okay?

02:06:59.000 The mainstream media makes the illusion that we aren't waking up, tries to make us feel alone.

02:07:05.000 They've tried to destroy any type of community.

02:07:08.000 They've tried to stop us from reaching out and knowing our neighbors.

02:07:11.000 And so really, we're like rats caught in a machine or a maze.

02:07:15.000 And we'll go to calls in a second, but can you comment to that, Dr. Breeden?

02:07:18.000 Well, good distinction about, you know, the mainstream media saying how things are versus how things really are, to keep separating that out.

02:07:28.000 I really sympathize with Peter's response because here's a guy who's pretty aware.

02:07:31.000 He's already got a lot of awareness about what's going down, but still he's shaking his head and saying, this is just obviously so outrageous.

02:07:40.000 How can this be going on?

02:07:42.000 I experience that a lot.

02:07:43.000 A lot of times almost every day I wake up it's like, Is this real?

02:07:47.000 I have to kind of remind myself.

02:07:50.000 It's very surreal.

02:07:52.000 It's very surreal.

02:07:53.000 Yeah, it's very surreal.

02:07:54.000 And so then, so it is about waking up and staying awake, you know, and, and, you know, and that, that saying, you know, that statement, I will not go back to sleep, you know, it's like every day, I will be awake, and I will be aware, and I will pay attention, and I will seek the truth.

02:08:12.000 And I will not believe something just because somebody says so.

02:08:15.000 And I will find people who support me in being that way, which is the community that you're talking about.

02:08:24.000 So I sympathize with Peter and I think it really is about continuing to be, I think the ability to be fully responsible and fully awake is exactly related to the ability to be completely disillusioned, you know, of all the Well, what's the saying that one of the truest forms of mental illness, if you even believe in that, is the refusal to go through legitimate suffering?

02:08:50.000 We'll take care of you, all those things, you know.

02:08:53.000 Well, what's the saying that one of the truest forms of mental illness, if you even believe in that, is the refusal to go through legitimate suffering?

02:09:02.000 And people just, you know, denial is not a river in Egypt, as the cliche goes.

02:09:10.000 And so many people, you know, George Arwell or Eric Blair in 1984 spent a lot of time describing doublethink.

02:09:18.000 And he said it was something that the upper classes, the elites, the yuppies did.

02:09:22.000 Yeah, well it's a numbing of conscience.

02:09:25.000 they knew it was horrible so they did the mental trick of just accepting it and and somehow getting power over you know can't beat them join them a lot of people i've talked to will admit this is evil but go oh there's nothing you can do to just join it i don't know how people do that yeah yeah with the numbing of conscience you know you don't feel any discomfort at disneyland you don't feel discomfort on your couch eating popcorn watching fantasy tv i mean you know you go numb

02:09:53.000 but you're not truly alive i remember when i was like that and never to a great extent but it that's that you know the truth will set you free they the people perish for lack of knowledge but that's that big hole in the heart you're not truly alive and you're right about suffering you know i mean it's The man's feeling sadness when he looks at this, you know.

02:10:14.000 Our feelings of sadness when we look at the reality of what's going on.

02:10:17.000 You're not normal if you don't feel that pain.

02:10:19.000 That means you've been deadened or chopped off from something.

02:10:22.000 And what psychiatry does is it acts as a control agent for the state by saying that that pain is an illness.

02:10:30.000 That pain is a natural response to social injustice.

02:10:34.000 And so part of saying the no to psychiatry is just saying yes to I will keep thinking.

02:10:40.000 I will keep my eyes and heart open.

02:10:42.000 I will not let anybody pathologize me for this.

02:10:44.000 I will not let anybody pathologize my child because he's in a situation that's not working for him.

02:10:51.000 I will find a way to defend him.

02:10:53.000 I will find a way to find a situation to support him.

02:10:56.000 I will I will connect with people.

02:11:00.000 There's no easy way for this.

02:11:04.000 Here's an example I used last time you were on.

02:11:06.000 I'll use it again.

02:11:08.000 Barnum and Bailey Circus.

02:11:10.000 You look at those elephants in those small cages shaking their heads back and forth, totally depressed, waving their trunks.

02:11:17.000 It's the same thing they do when one of their babies or one of the elephants dies.

02:11:22.000 They'll stand around the body for a few days trying to protect it from predators, and even try to bury it in some cases, kick dirt up on it. 0.92

02:11:29.000 I even saw a report a few years ago where they said, We have a depression problem just because these elephants are mentally ill.

02:11:36.000 So we're now drugging the elephants.

02:11:38.000 And so now they just lay down on the corner because they're drugged.

02:11:41.000 Well, that's like humanity.

02:11:42.000 We're sitting there shaking our heads, swinging our trunks.

02:11:44.000 Oh, you know, you don't like what we're doing to you?

02:11:47.000 You don't like all this?

02:11:48.000 Your subconscious knows this is all evil and is causing you to have pain over it?

02:11:52.000 Or your soul is having a problem with it?

02:11:54.000 Well, just drugs.

02:11:55.000 You know, it's like somebody buys an Australian Shepherd that's meant to run 15 miles a day, at least, the way it's bred, and you put it in a one-room apartment, and so when it chews holes in things and freaks out, and goes what you'd call crazy, you put it on doggy Prozac.

02:12:11.000 And now I found out that millions of animals are on drugs.

02:12:15.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:12:16.000 It's even in the fish they're finding now.

02:12:17.000 There's so much Prozac and these types of drugs going in just through urination and stuff into the water supply.

02:12:23.000 I mean vets are now drugging people's dogs.

02:12:28.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:12:30.000 The other thing that you hear about the elephants is the way they train them is they stake them, you know, for a while so they can't move and then they learn that and then they remove the stake and they still condition that they can't move.

02:12:42.000 And that's like being in school and being forced into this position of having to be kind of passive and dependent on adult authority.

02:12:49.000 People grow up to be adults and they still think they're that way.

02:12:53.000 They don't realize that they're free.

02:12:54.000 And that's part of what we're trying to do, what you're doing, what I'm doing, is saying, hey, remember who you really are?

02:13:00.000 You're a free spiritual being.

02:13:02.000 Hey, guess what?

02:13:03.000 You know, you have a choice.

02:13:04.000 Hey, guess what?

02:13:06.000 You can look and see the truth, you know, and yeah.

02:13:12.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:13:13.000 It's the pathologizing of a natural response to an oppressive situation.

02:13:18.000 Let's go ahead and take another call.

02:13:19.000 Beautifully said, Doctor.

02:13:21.000 Tom in Louisiana.

02:13:22.000 Thanks for holding here on the air.

02:13:23.000 Go ahead.

02:13:23.000 Hello, Alex.

02:13:24.000 I'm glad you got back from New York, okay?

02:13:26.000 Thank God!

02:13:27.000 And I'm sure I'm one of those super sick people because I've never believed all that baloney.

02:13:33.000 I can remember in 1948, I started school By the time I was in the eighth grade, I could tell that the education system was just plummeting downhill because they kept lowering the standards and teaching to the lowest common dummy, if you want to call it that.

02:13:49.000 Also, when I went to college, they were teaching, of course, socialism and communism and economics, and I'm not politically correct then, even though the term wasn't used.

02:14:00.000 I walked into a comparative economics course one day and made a comment to the professor But Karl Marx must have been a real sicky.

02:14:08.000 Well, he didn't like that at all.

02:14:10.000 So that didn't gain me any points, but too bad.

02:14:13.000 But I was lucky that I did have a high school teacher who made us read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

02:14:19.000 All this baloney about democracy does not exist in the Constitution. 0.98

02:14:24.000 And on the subject that you've been talking about, they're trying to make everybody as dumb as they can and control them just like sheep. 0.99

02:14:35.000 You know, sheeple. 1.00

02:14:36.000 There's also a syndicated talk host who said recently that 50% of the people in this country are too stupid to live in a free country, and I think he was wrong. 1.00

02:14:45.000 I think it's more than that. 0.99

02:14:47.000 I do have a couple of questions.

02:14:48.000 Last week, it was mentioned that there was a treaty with Mexico about Social Security and also a treaty with United Nothing about taking over all the oceans, and I missed the names of them.

02:14:59.000 Yeah, it's the Treaty of the Sea, and the UN is the is the bankruptcy body that claims the C for itself, then gives it to elite corporations, and then the, I don't have the name of the treaty, but it's been all over the news, now the Pan-American Union, Union of American States, Pre-Trader of the Americas, it's already begun paying Social Security down into Pre-Trader of the Americas, it's already begun paying Social Security down into Mexico, so they're merging this

02:15:24.000 I remember in the early 60s in college, listening to the Voice of America and listening to Radio Moscow, and we dubbed it Radio Moscow, Radio Mukau, and you can make out of that what you want, but DOA sounded almost the same.

02:15:38.000 Just propaganda.

02:15:40.000 Well, it's all, look, whether it's communist or fascist or corporate or whatever, it's all centralized.

02:15:45.000 They use the same systems of psychological warfare against us.

02:15:50.000 Dr. Breeding?

02:15:52.000 Well, I agree with the basic idea that whether it's capitalism or communism, you know, it's kind of like arguing between Republicans and Democrats.

02:16:00.000 You look at the basic level of the organization, the level of centralization and control, where's the focus, where's the value?

02:16:09.000 Is it on reverence for life or is it on the maximization of control and suppression?

02:16:18.000 I don't know if we've ever really had a true free enterprise any more than we've ever had a true so-called communism.

02:16:29.000 I don't allow myself to be defined that way.

02:16:31.000 No, it's true.

02:16:32.000 I mean, everything is always a thug, a king-rat ruling over people, and you always find, you know, the big so-called capitalists working with the communists or any other thug, as Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, said at Georgetown.

02:16:44.000 Anything else, Tom?

02:16:46.000 I have a question.

02:16:46.000 Maybe you can answer.

02:16:48.000 I can't in good conscience vote for either one of the big manure spreaders we have running for president, and I'd like to know who else is on the ballot besides Nader and those two. 0.89

02:16:57.000 Okay, thank you.

02:16:57.000 We'll try to talk about that after the break, but I mean, just briefly, Nader's controlled obviously now.

02:17:02.000 A lot of evidence has come out for that effect.

02:17:05.000 You know, his book's been published by Rupert Murdoch and a bunch of other stuff has come out.

02:17:10.000 There is Mr. Perutka from the Constitution Party who's good, great.

02:17:15.000 Michael Bagnerik from Libertarians is great as well.

02:17:18.000 But frankly, everybody gets so focused on the big presidential election, but people don't come out to vote for the county or city election.

02:17:26.000 The big fight needs to be about the sanctity of our ballots, and to stop that.

02:17:31.000 That's where the real fight's at right now.

02:17:34.000 So frankly, I think the whole presidential thing is nothing but a big diversion.

02:17:38.000 We'll be back with more calls and with Dr. Breeding and more news.

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02:22:25.000 Let's go ahead now and go to Mike in Texas.

02:22:28.000 Mike, thanks for holding the poll.

02:22:30.000 Danny and others, or Davey, excuse me.

02:22:33.000 Mike, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:22:34.000 Well, I guess they ought to put me on drugs for question authority when they start taking away your rights.

02:22:43.000 Well, that's the plan, yeah.

02:22:46.000 I have an article from yesterday.

02:22:49.000 From the Kentucky Coalition to Carry Concealed, and the source is the Illinois State Rifle Association.

02:22:57.000 It says, confiscation of registered guns begins in Illinois.

02:23:02.000 Yeah, no, I covered that article yesterday.

02:23:04.000 People that legally, lawfully have them are now having them confiscated.

02:23:09.000 Yeah, they show a Chicago Anti-Gun Enforcement Union, complete with body armor, headgear, helmets, camo.

02:23:18.000 They're called a CAGE unit.

02:23:19.000 Yeah.

02:23:22.000 I didn't know if you covered that yesterday.

02:23:24.000 I guess I missed it.

02:23:25.000 Well, I'm glad you called in about it.

02:23:26.000 No, it's a big deal.

02:23:27.000 Whenever the government moves to disarm the population, even for liberals out there, why did they take the Native Americans' guns?

02:23:34.000 Why couldn't black people own guns? 1.00

02:23:36.000 Why was a Roman slave 2,000 years ago not allowed to have a sword? 0.82

02:23:40.000 Slaves are disarmed.

02:23:42.000 It says on the little With a pic underneath the pic, he says, this elite squad operated jointly by the Illinois State Police, the Chicago Police Department, and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office supposedly exists to identify illegal gun runners.

02:23:59.000 However, information gained by the ISRA makes it clear that the cage unit is targeting law-abiding citizens, not criminal gun runners, and also a file on the list for nationwide to identify who owns what nationwide.

02:24:16.000 It's very, very serious, Mike.

02:24:18.000 I appreciate your call, and I'm going to get some guests on concerning that story.

02:24:21.000 Thank you.

02:24:23.000 Paul in Delaware.

02:24:23.000 You're on the air with Dr. Breeding.

02:24:25.000 Go ahead.

02:24:26.000 Yeah, I want you to maybe speak to this, man.

02:24:29.000 I'm running into people who don't want George Bush in there, which of course is a good thing, but they think that Kerry is the only thing they can do.

02:24:37.000 And of course, I don't want to talk about Ralph Nader because he's just another shill, but I mean, they're convinced that the other person is convinced And so they'll be wasting their vote if they vote for anyone else.

02:24:51.000 And so, even though they're saying that the other person is convinced, they're convinced themselves because they won't allow themselves to vote for anybody but George Bush or Kerry.

02:25:00.000 Well, that's the sheep mentality of, I don't have my own ideas, I'll follow what other people are doing. 0.75

02:25:05.000 But look, Kerry's for the war.

02:25:09.000 Kerry is for the free trade area of the Americas.

02:25:12.000 Bush and Kerry aren't just cousins in their bloodlines, but they're They're brothers, twin brothers when it comes to their policies, only the rhetoric's different.

02:25:22.000 Dr. Breeding, any comments?

02:25:25.000 Well, no, I'm not even going to comment on that.

02:25:28.000 I'm just going to try to stay focused on the... Well, that's a good question.

02:25:32.000 Where do the Democrats stand on Lord Bush's new freedom initiative to psychiatrically test and drug the population?

02:25:39.000 Oh, this is a good question.

02:25:43.000 Generally speaking, we tend to get more sympathy from Republicans on sort of liberty and privacy stuff like not drugging kids in schools and stuff.

02:25:54.000 But at the same time, though, we have this thing in the U.S.

02:25:57.000 Congress right now called the Child Medication Safety Act, Senate Bill 1390, that passed the House almost unanimously and is now being held up in the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee.

02:26:11.000 Uh, by none other than Edward Kennedy.

02:26:14.000 It's a bill that, it's a law that would just basically make it a federal law that would say that no school can require psychiatric drugs as a condition of attending school.

02:26:24.000 And so the Democrats are holding this up and we think it's largely just because of a collusion with Big Pharma and the psychiatric lobbyists and stuff like that.

02:26:36.000 Politics is a mess, you know, just because of the vested interest and the fact that Big Pharma has so much money and so many lobbyists, you know, so it takes a lot of effort to impinge.

02:26:47.000 And, uh, it's not a Democrat or Republican issue.

02:26:50.000 Any individual politician can be bought and sold.

02:26:53.000 Well, yeah, that's the point I wanted to add here, is that a committee chairman and above in the government, that's what I'm saying, it's all the same actions, just different debates, different rhetoric.

02:27:03.000 And, uh, So the Bushys and Mr. Kennedy are on the same page.

02:27:10.000 So I think individuals can make decisions based on, you know, it's valid at times to vote on the lesser of two evils maybe, but we have to keep the basic energy going about that we are going to make our decisions and do our work.

02:27:25.000 Alright, we've got a break.

02:27:27.000 Paul, anything else?

02:27:28.000 Can I stay with you for one second?

02:27:30.000 We'll come back with Paul and then Davey and others.

02:27:30.000 Yeah, stay there.

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02:33:29.000 And again, I was in New York last week, and it's not, ooh, aren't I a big star, because I'm not.

02:33:38.000 It's actually, you know, it's safer to be in the spotlight and also dangerous at the same time.

02:33:43.000 But to be in New York and to have 500 people conservatively, mainly from New York and other parts of the country, not even local Austinites, come up to me who were informed, who knew about the New World Order, who knew about the real issues, who knew about government involvement in 9-11.

02:33:58.000 That's conservative.

02:33:59.000 I mean, it was hundreds every day.

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02:34:08.000 I mean, it blew me away that we're having that big of an effect with the media focused on the kooks and the communists and the, who are the vast, vast, vast, vast, I don't know, maybe one out of a hundred of the 300,000 plus protesters in one March I was in, and I've got some New York news pieces where they said half a million.

02:34:27.000 National News would say thousands March trying to minimize that, but the point is thousands of my videos have gone out.

02:34:33.000 I've told you to make copies.

02:34:34.000 You've made hundreds of copies, in some cases thousands apiece.

02:34:37.000 Others have made copies, and thousands of tapes have turned into millions because of you.

02:34:41.000 So please get my videos, make copies, get them out to people.

02:34:44.000 God bless you for what you've done.

02:34:45.000 Dr. Breen, before we get into some other news and let Paul and Davey and Jerry and Allen and Leon talk.

02:34:55.000 Any other key points about the new Freedom Initiative you want to talk about?

02:35:00.000 Thanks Alex.

02:35:01.000 The main thing is to click on the website, wilderscolta.com, click on the Declaration of Refusal to Comply, make a statement that you declare that you will not allow your children to be subjects of government experimentation and intrusion.

02:35:15.000 You will actively resist this thing.

02:35:17.000 Help us out, you know, because we've got links with the media.

02:35:21.000 You know, we've got Alex Jones on our side and we've got a lot of other people too.

02:35:25.000 And we want to take it to them, you know.

02:35:27.000 I want to take it from this show today.

02:35:29.000 We started with a thousand this morning.

02:35:31.000 You know, we want to get 10,000 names.

02:35:33.000 Everybody, get your name on there.

02:35:34.000 Support us that way because we've got these pilot programs going in different states.

02:35:39.000 We've got lines going to different legislators.

02:35:42.000 There's a lot of people who don't like this for various reasons.

02:35:45.000 And we want to really use it to raise a stink and specifically to try to slow this thing down and to protect our children.

02:35:52.000 So that's number one.

02:35:53.000 Number two, you know, the basis of it is really just that there's no real diseases here.

02:35:58.000 You know, children do not have biologically based mental illnesses.

02:36:03.000 It's a bogus fraud thing that's manufactured and made up by big pharma and biological psychiatry.

02:36:10.000 There's no objective test.

02:36:12.000 There's just checklists of behavior.

02:36:14.000 10 million kids on drugs for no illness.

02:36:17.000 They want to put 10 million more.

02:36:18.000 Let's stop it.

02:36:20.000 The drugs are dangerous.

02:36:21.000 They really hurt children.

02:36:23.000 If it's not your child, then it's somebody else's child. 0.90

02:36:26.000 So sign on and support us.

02:36:28.000 That's the big thing I'm asking for today.

02:36:30.000 And by the way, that's 10 million at any one time.

02:36:33.000 10 million today.

02:36:35.000 And the statistics show that people who have been on these then go on and use illegal drugs or get into other pharmacological drugs that are even stronger.

02:36:44.000 It is a holocaust, folks. 0.98

02:36:46.000 And it's huge.

02:36:47.000 And again, just ask yourself, 50 years ago, did we have to put 10 million children at any one time and another, what is it, 15 million adults or more now on very toxic, brain-altering drugs?

02:37:02.000 No other country in the world does this.

02:37:04.000 In countries, as I mentioned, like Russia, countries like Japan, these countries that have been our archenemies at times, our allies at times, you know, they look at this country and they say, my God, you know, we don't even have these things in our country, you know, what is going on?

02:37:19.000 And, uh, uh, well, I'll tell you this, Doctor, I've been to foreign countries and their children still play on the street corners.

02:37:27.000 They're, they're in the park.

02:37:28.000 They're, they're playing football.

02:37:31.000 What they call soccer, and what we call soccer, and you don't see that as much here anymore.

02:37:40.000 You talk about being sick and ill, folks.

02:37:42.000 We are a sick society, and the sick society is trying to make us all sick.

02:37:48.000 That's what we're talking about is kind of leveling the playing field and giving us a chance to rebuild our communities, you know.

02:37:54.000 Taking corporate profit and maximum profit and minimum liability.

02:37:58.000 Reshuffling that to just level the playing field and let people, people want to produce, people want to be entrepreneurs, people want to be like Alex Jones and have their own shows, you know, but it's very difficult, you know, when you've got all the incentives that favor the big entities.

02:38:19.000 I mean, earlier when I was just saying, you know, all the people knew who I was, I was saying that to show that as an indicator that I'm just one little guy.

02:38:26.000 There's thousands of prominent people like yourself that are breeding and others that are out there doing as good a job or better.

02:38:31.000 All of us can be leaders.

02:38:33.000 I mean, when I started out ten years ago, I never imagined that I would have this big of an effect thanks to God and the people taking action.

02:38:40.000 But all of us have to be leaders, folks.

02:38:42.000 You have to do that.

02:38:44.000 We are a civilization in crisis.

02:38:45.000 Let's go ahead and let Paul finish up real quick.

02:38:48.000 Paul, go ahead.

02:38:49.000 I want to touch on what the earlier caller that called in speaking about Jews.

02:38:54.000 Like you, I'm sick and tired of hearing about them.

02:38:58.000 You know, Jews that have done evil things, and please, by all means, document them, but also document the ones that are in this country that call themselves Christians that are doing the same thing. 1.00

02:39:07.000 And, um, there is a, you know, so these Christians are out here supporting, you know, certain parts of Judaism.

02:39:13.000 I mean, if you go to Israel, you can't witness to anybody because it's against the law.

02:39:19.000 If you're a Christian Jew, you can't migrate freely. 0.99

02:39:23.000 And, um, Revelation says that the Antichrist is going to be coming out of the land where Jesus was killed or crucified.

02:39:32.000 So those are some touching points, but there are evil people like you say all over the world, but please just don't document the Jews or you'll seem anti-semitic or whatever.

02:39:41.000 So make sure you document all of them.

02:39:43.000 We could start with some right now in 2004.

02:39:46.000 Start worrying about them please.

02:39:48.000 And so that's pretty much all I wanted to touch on.

02:39:51.000 All right, thanks for the call.

02:39:52.000 I appreciate it.

02:39:53.000 Look, again, almost every government is run by tyrannical people. 0.93

02:39:58.000 And some of these so-called Christian groups say, you've got to follow what Israel says or you're going to go to hell.

02:40:03.000 Well, then why was Jesus speaking out against the Pharisees?

02:40:07.000 I mean, it's a joke, folks.

02:40:09.000 It's a total twisting.

02:40:10.000 We've got to be conscious of that.

02:40:12.000 Let's go to Davey in Texas.

02:40:15.000 Go ahead, Davey.

02:40:16.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:40:17.000 I had two things briefly.

02:40:19.000 One was for the doctor.

02:40:21.000 Had a question if he'd ever heard of the book Murder by Injection by Eustace Mullins.

02:40:27.000 Have not heard of it.

02:40:28.000 I recommend that you obtain that book and read it.

02:40:32.000 There's a couple other books that Eustace Mullins has written.

02:40:35.000 One of them is The World Order, where he took the research notes of Ezra Pound and wrote that book.

02:40:42.000 But Alex, in good faith I called to clarify for the record the definition of Israel.

02:40:48.000 And that, you know, it seems to be the epicenter or the nexus of, you know, the world's problems, and it says that in the scriptures.

02:40:56.000 Are you familiar with an individual named Willie Martin?

02:41:02.000 Uh, it barely rings a bell.

02:41:04.000 Okay, well, Willie just passed away last November, and I met him just before he died.

02:41:09.000 I read a book that he had written called In Search of Isaac's Children last summer, and it confirmed The truth of the scriptures, most especially what's prophesied in the Old Testament, in Jeremiah and Isaiah, about who Israel is.

02:41:27.000 And Israel, there's a book called Old Jerusalem, and in that book there's a chapter that tells about in May of 48, when they chose the name Israel.

02:41:38.000 But in good faith, Alex, when I went to school down there in Austin, I used to be a security guard at a Jewish sorority house.

02:41:47.000 I've lived with Jews, and I don't hate Jews, but I do love the truth. 0.99

02:41:53.000 And the truth is, Israel has never been Jewish.

02:41:56.000 It will never be Jewish. 1.00

02:41:58.000 Israel is a people.

02:42:00.000 It is not a plate.

02:42:02.000 And those people over there in the Middle East calling themselves Israel are not descended from the tribe of Judah.

02:42:09.000 That's the issue.

02:42:11.000 Well, I would agree that some of the people there aren't, but I mean, obviously some of the people in Israel are Jews.

02:42:17.000 They may be, but they're not Israelites. 0.97

02:42:19.000 And even if they are Israelites, Alex, if you study the Old Testament, the land that was deeded to the children of Israel, and specifically the tribe of Judah at Gilgal, is only a small portion of that land.

02:42:32.000 And if you study the Scriptures, you'll find that Israel was dispersed.

02:42:36.000 They were taken into the Assyrian captivity.

02:42:39.000 And they moved north and west.

02:42:41.000 And proven from the world almanac... I know, but sir, do you see how I take one call about somebody calling about Israel and then just this... I understand, Alex.

02:42:50.000 I call it a good faith.

02:42:51.000 People can look at the information online.

02:42:54.000 They can type in Willie Martin files online or Willie Martin.

02:42:58.000 And the information is there.

02:43:00.000 I would appreciate it if you'd have somebody like Pastor Peters or Bob Weiland or anybody out there that's willing to, in good faith,

02:43:08.000 I don't know the details of the biblical references and all that this man is referring to, but I just want to say that I think it's a real distraction to get too caught up in this religious ideological warfare, because the epicenter of the world's problems is not Israel.

02:43:33.000 The epicenter of the world's problems is about the corporate control of world decisions and the basic values that come from that.

02:43:42.000 You know, and it flows from multinational corporations that are lying to Karl Rove, who's really the President of the United States, and controls the dynamics there, and the funding that allows him to keep George Bush and people like him getting elected, and that creates this playing field where corporations can just rape

02:44:06.000 The planet and the people without any responsibility or liability and that needs to be changed just to make things equal, to make things fair, to give common people a chance.

02:44:18.000 It's not a real mysterious, mystical kind of phenomenon.

02:44:23.000 There's overtones of that and you go into that in some of your work, but really it's a nitty-gritty kind of economic oppression that we have to Well, what happens is, you know, take Africa. 0.70

02:44:36.000 The UN and other global groups will play one black tribe off against another because one lives on one side of the river and the other on the other side. 1.00

02:44:43.000 Yeah, that's a distraction from really facing the issues.

02:44:46.000 Well, take Ireland.

02:44:47.000 They'll play Catholic off against Protestant, Protestant off against Catholic, Northerners against Southerners. 0.67

02:44:52.000 When we have this criminal centralization of power that has to be dealt with.

02:44:56.000 Let's talk to Jay in Delaware.

02:44:58.000 Jay, you're on the air.

02:44:59.000 Go ahead.

02:45:00.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:45:01.000 I had a couple of quick things.

02:45:03.000 One, there's a, I'm in Denver actually, there's a billboard on one of the main roads out here with Bin Laden sitting in his cave, like sitting there in his legs crossed.

02:45:12.000 There's a big title over it that says, What's Next?

02:45:14.000 And it's just an advertisement for a radio station for a news radio talk show, I guess.

02:45:18.000 But it's a full-sized, huge picture of Bin Laden sitting there in his cave.

02:45:22.000 But I thought that was rather appalling.

02:45:24.000 But I saw Bob Graham on MSNBC last night, and he was talking about the informant In San Diego, housing two terrorists, supposedly from 9-11, and how the White House, FBI said, the White House, said they couldn't divulge the informant's name or subpoena.

02:45:46.000 So they stalled that investigation.

02:45:48.000 That was by the, I think, the first commission that he was talking about.

02:45:53.000 And of course, Chris Matthews just kept saying, well, what's your proof?

02:45:57.000 What's your proof?

02:45:58.000 Well, the FBI said so.

02:45:59.000 Well, I mean, it's admitted that it was in Florida, it was in Illinois, it was in Arizona, it was in California, and San Francisco, and San Diego.

02:46:09.000 All over, the so-called hijackers and terrorists had the FBI paying for their houses, their cars, their credit cards, and there's the proof right there.

02:46:17.000 The other thing, you mentioned that, what was it, Dr. Barnett, that was on East End?

02:46:23.000 You're not saying, you said the military works for the corporations, it's a one world government, globalization, and we're going to work with Russia and China to enslave all these countries.

02:46:34.000 Did you see that?

02:46:35.000 I came home, I was actually taping, it was two hours of one of those book club things where they had all these, Paul Krugman and all these guys that are putting all this stuff out about, true stuff about Bush.

02:46:47.000 So I came home to watch that and I ended up waiting for an hour and a half watching that guy talk because I couldn't turn it off.

02:46:53.000 Did you see the part where he was talking about the new, um, uh, what do you call it?

02:46:58.000 The Admin Force?

02:47:00.000 Yeah, you're going to have these giant mercenary forces.

02:47:03.000 Yeah, they said the Admin Force would be like the Peacekeeping Force.

02:47:06.000 Larger and older, and they said, but that, that would be a part of Northern Command.

02:47:12.000 And they would be exempt from posse comitatus.

02:47:15.000 And they, but they'd have the Marines and everybody up next in there too. 0.94

02:47:19.000 It wouldn't be all, Yeah, here domestically.

02:47:22.000 I went to bed, I didn't watch all of it.

02:47:24.000 Did you tape that?

02:47:25.000 No, I didn't because I would have had to tape over the other thing.

02:47:29.000 It was amazing.

02:47:30.000 What was that guy's name?

02:47:31.000 Thomas Barnett?

02:47:32.000 Yeah, I got it written down.

02:47:34.000 Dr. Tom Barnett of the Navy War College.

02:47:36.000 And it was, like you said, the Pentagon's new map.

02:47:40.000 That was the title of it.

02:47:42.000 Man, it was so evil.

02:47:43.000 Thanks for the call.

02:47:44.000 Yeah, Dr. Breeding, just a few years ago, there's no global empire, there's no world government.

02:47:50.000 Now I watched a Pentagon two-hour meeting.

02:47:52.000 I watched like an hour and a half of it and turned it off, and it's just all about the world governments run by the corporations, and the military serves the corporations, and we're going to take over the planet, and Russia and China are going to help us.

02:48:05.000 What do you think of that?

02:48:08.000 I'm like little Peter in wherever.

02:48:10.000 I'm just kind of shaking my head.

02:48:15.000 But I mean, they're just out in the open now.

02:48:17.000 Well, that's what I mean.

02:48:18.000 That's why I'm shaking my head.

02:48:19.000 It's good to be out in the open.

02:48:24.000 At least they can be presented that way and have a conversation about it.

02:48:29.000 Absolutely.

02:48:30.000 We're going to have to break, come back. 1.00

02:48:31.000 We'll talk to Alan and Leon, and that'll be it for calls.

02:48:35.000 We'll hit one final news story about Russia's plans for strikes against global terror bases.

02:48:41.000 Stay with us, we'll be right back.

02:48:45.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

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02:51:39.000 You know the threats?

02:52:00.000 It's documented.

02:52:01.000 Believe me, I've tried to convince myself it isn't true.

02:52:04.000 The more research we do, the worse we find out it actually is.

02:52:09.000 Dr. John Breeding has been our guest.

02:52:10.000 His website is www.wildestcolts.com.

02:52:12.000 We have a big fat link to his website on www.infowars.com.

02:52:16.000 Go sign his petition that lets the globalists know we're not going to put up with their new freedom initiative and it'll help get some media attention and let the establishment know that we're not buying into what they're up to.

02:52:27.000 It's up to all of us to educate everyone.

02:52:30.000 Uh, Russia plans pre-emptive strikes against global terror bases.

02:52:33.000 Russia is prepared to launch pre-emptive strikes on bases used for training militants anywhere in the world, as Senior General said Wednesday, after a joint Russia-NATO meeting in Brussels, uh, denounced the latest spat of attacks on Russia, soil that killed over 400 people.

02:52:49.000 And the evidence is clear, folks.

02:52:50.000 This thing stinks to high heaven.

02:52:52.000 We've caught Putin blowing up his own buildings before, okay? 0.97

02:52:55.000 And they now are going to merge with NATO and attack everybody.

02:52:58.000 I mean, and this is what I saw from a month ago that re-aired this weekend with the Pentagon's new map with their, one of their top war, high priest of war up there.

02:53:09.000 It's just, it's just all out in the open.

02:53:11.000 It's so sick.

02:53:13.000 Let's talk to Alan in Texas.

02:53:14.000 Alan, you're on the air with Dr. Breeden.

02:53:16.000 Go ahead.

02:53:16.000 Hello, John.

02:53:17.000 Hello, Alex.

02:53:18.000 Hey, Alan.

02:53:19.000 Good to talk with you both.

02:53:21.000 John, I wanted to let you know I am reading the book, The Misunderstandings.

02:53:28.000 True Nature and Great Misunderstandings.

02:53:30.000 Yeah, and I want the listeners to know that this book is not just a book about drugs and about the New World Order and the corporate takeover.

02:53:39.000 We all, as parents, have been somewhat misled through our upbringing.

02:53:45.000 We weren't raised with the wisdom and the clarity That this man has and that he's offering us now.

02:53:52.000 And I recommend this reading for anyone who has a kid, who has a kid, who's going to have kids, who has a kid who has kids, who knows anybody who has kids.

02:54:03.000 Get the picture?

02:54:05.000 Speaking of the picture, there's a picture of my daughter ten years ago on the cover of that book, and anybody who buys the book will have that picture as well.

02:54:12.000 Well, it's a great book, and we carry both of them, and you get a big discount when you get both of them.

02:54:18.000 What else is on your mind, Alan?

02:54:19.000 Well, the Feds came out with a report last week that I heard on NPR, which I stopped supporting NPR.

02:54:25.000 I guess they're supporting Walmart now.

02:54:27.000 So I just turned them off.

02:54:30.000 But last week I did hear a report.

02:54:32.000 The Feds had done a study again.

02:54:34.000 on the safety of these drugs and determined that, well, while they do make kids want to kill themselves, nobody has killed themselves.

02:54:43.000 So they're recommending that doctors warn the parents that these drugs might make your kids... Masses of people have committed suicide.

02:54:49.000 I know that, and at one of John's fundraisers, there was a man up there, a father of a daughter who had hung herself after being on these drugs, and I thought, how can these guys It's like if I keep you in a closet, I sleep deprive you, I drip water on your head for six months, and you kill yourself, but you can't prove I killed you, so I didn't kill you, and that type of treatment doesn't cause suicide. - I hear you.

02:55:12.000 Alan, I appreciate the call.

02:55:13.000 Great points.

02:55:14.000 Last caller, Leon.

02:55:16.000 Leon, welcome. - Thank you for taking my call, and I just wanted to say thank you, Dr. Breeding, for your information, and I wanted to make sure I got this right.

02:55:29.000 Your website is wildestcults.com?

02:55:32.000 www.wildestcults.com C-O-L-T-S?

02:55:41.000 Yes.

02:55:41.000 Hey sir, sir.

02:55:42.000 Infowars.com is a picture of Dr. Breeding under a link to his website.

02:55:48.000 Okay, well I just wanted to say you're right on.

02:55:51.000 I am a I'm a retired psychiatric social worker and I can't say how much you are right on about how crazy it is and how we are being misled and it makes me not feel so bad because I feel sad and I'm upset about it.

02:56:14.000 Sign on to our petition, man.

02:56:16.000 Yeah, you ought to call Dr. Breeding, write an article with him about your experiences, Leon.

02:56:20.000 I'm sorry we're out of time.

02:56:21.000 Call me back tomorrow, okay, Leon?

02:56:22.000 Because I want to hear more from you as a retired psychiatric social worker.

02:56:27.000 Dr. Breeding, thanks for coming on.

02:56:29.000 God bless you.

02:56:30.000 You too, Alex.

02:56:31.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:32.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

Alex Jones Show - September 09, 2004

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