Alex Jones Show - 20041110_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Hello, my friends. my friends.

00:00:40.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:41.000 It's already Wednesday, the 10th day of November 2004.

00:00:44.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:47.000 Well, George W. Bush is doing what he did at the beginning of his last term.

00:00:53.000 He's pushing the free trade area of the Americas.

00:00:57.000 He's announcing total, blanket, absolute, complete legalization of anyone in the country or anyone that can ever get here. 0.98

00:01:06.000 And allowing companies to pay to bring in skilled and unskilled workers to displace all Americans no matter what color you are.

00:01:16.000 The polls in the high 80s against it?

00:01:20.000 But hey, he pointed his finger at you at that press conference last Thursday and he said, I've got a mandate from the people.

00:01:27.000 Every time the press would ask a question, I got a mandate.

00:01:31.000 Wow, you got a mandate.

00:01:32.000 You mean a quarter of the people in this country supposedly went and voted for you, and it wouldn't have mattered because the other quarter voted for your cousin, who's for amnesty and everything else too.

00:01:43.000 So, why conservatives are in shocked anger and we've been betrayed?

00:01:49.000 You haven't been betrayed.

00:01:50.000 He said he'd do this.

00:01:53.000 And I predict they're going to pass the assault weapons ban after some shooting, and I predict he's going to sign it and you're going to feel betrayed again when he said he would.

00:02:01.000 And you're going to feel betrayed with the Pan American Union and losing your jobs and you're going to feel betrayed when you finally learn what it means to have a dollar plunging in value and you're going to feel betrayed!

00:02:11.000 But that won't matter, will it?

00:02:13.000 Because the government has nice men in black ski masks with machine guns in the free country to make sure that you understand who the bosses are.

00:02:23.000 By the way, a president has never surrounded himself with the military and police at an inauguration.

00:02:29.000 They announced over Monday and Tuesday that at the inauguration coming up next year, Lord Bush, our great leader, our maximum leader, Our God-King will be surrounded by them, letting you know what the symbol of his power is, where his power comes from.

00:02:49.000 And the troops will all stand up there smiling and happy.

00:02:56.000 Thank you for injecting us with deadly experimental vaccines.

00:02:59.000 Thank you for using depleted uranium all over Iraq, you and your father, and letting us breathe it and not giving us treatment. 0.94

00:03:06.000 Thank you.

00:03:07.000 Thank you.

00:03:08.000 They'll just gullibly sit up there Like women standing around Ted Bundy giving him an award for helping women and women's rights or something. 1.00

00:03:16.000 It's just too rich for me to handle sometimes.

00:03:21.000 Well, are you saying Bush is bad?

00:03:23.000 Well, Kerry's bad. 0.97

00:03:25.000 They're both bad.

00:03:26.000 Can you figure that out?

00:03:28.000 It's like, uh, well Alex, should we vote for Bugsy Siegel or Al Capone?

00:03:33.000 Well, you should vote for neither.

00:03:35.000 Well, one of them's gotta be better than the other.

00:03:40.000 In fact, we're going to go to calls early in the shower.

00:03:43.000 I did a lot of this last week and the last few days.

00:03:45.000 I've been going to calls usually by the end of the hour.

00:03:48.000 But we'll go to calls in the next segment.

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00:04:01.000 There's so much to talk about.

00:04:03.000 Any issue you'd like to discuss.

00:04:04.000 I'd like to hear you talk about amnesty, though.

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00:04:15.000 Also, Lord Ashcroft resigned last night.

00:04:19.000 He'll be in there for a few weeks until his leader, his gracious leader, his great leader, we're talking about Bush now, the gracious great leader, maximum leader, appoints someone new.

00:04:33.000 It doesn't matter if it's Ashcroft or who else is in there.

00:04:37.000 They're puppets carrying out an operation.

00:04:42.000 Bringing us into world government.

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00:08:08.000 Welcome ladies and gentlemen.

00:08:26.000 It is Wednesday, the 10th day of November 2004, now well into the second segment.

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00:09:05.000 Well, Congressman Tom Tancredo is outraged with Lord Bush, and of course, Congressman Tom Tancredo has been targeted by the Bush team publicly to go after him during his next re-election bid because he's against total blanket amnesty.

00:09:22.000 Of course, 87% of Americans in major polls are against blanket total amnesty.

00:09:30.000 Seventy percent of Americans are against NAFTA and GATS, and don't even know what the free trade area of the Americas is.

00:09:36.000 It's much worse.

00:09:37.000 So Bush is pushing all of it and saying, I've got a mandate.

00:09:40.000 Yes, because the media didn't make it an issue in the campaign, because it really wasn't an issue, because your selected competition, your stage competition, and that stage boxing match, or WWF wrestling, is for all of this as well.

00:09:58.000 The only difference is conservatives would have woken up to Kerry trying all this.

00:10:02.000 They will salute it and love it under you.

00:10:07.000 Bush revives bid to legalize illegal aliens.

00:10:10.000 Remember a week before 9-11 he had Vicente Fox traipsing around D.C.

00:10:14.000 pushing for total amnesty?

00:10:17.000 For six years, everyone who's here would be legal, anyone who could get here would be legal, and companies could pay to bring in skilled and unskilled workers.

00:10:28.000 There was even a government subsidy to help them pay to do it!

00:10:33.000 Bush revives bid to legalize illegal aliens.

00:10:37.000 President Bush yesterday moved aggressively to resurrect his plan to relax rules against illegal immigration, a move bound to anger conservatives just days after they helped re-elect him.

00:10:49.000 The President met privately in the Oval Office with Senator John McCain to discuss jump-starting a stalled White House initiative that would grant legal status to millions of immigrants who broke the law to enter the United States.

00:11:02.000 This is by Bill Simon in the Washington Times, this article.

00:11:05.000 The Arizona Republican is one of the Senate's most outspoken supporters of expanding guest worker programs and has introduced his own bill to offer a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

00:11:17.000 We are formulating plans for the legislative agenda next year, said White House political strategist Karl Rove.

00:11:24.000 Oh! 0.60

00:11:25.000 And immigration will be on that agenda.

00:11:28.000 He outed the President has a meeting this morning to discuss with a significant member of the Senate the prospect of immigration reform and he's going to make it an important item.

00:11:39.000 Well!

00:11:42.000 So, 30 million illegal aliens The mainstream media says 20 million.

00:11:47.000 It's over 30 million.

00:11:48.000 That's conservative.

00:11:49.000 Are in the country from China and Russia, predominantly Latin America, Africa.

00:11:55.000 100 years ago you came in, you got checked for TB at Ellis Island.

00:12:00.000 During the great age of immigration we didn't get any more than 200,000 a year.

00:12:05.000 Now it's about 3 million a year permanently coming and staying.

00:12:10.000 And there's no TB checks, no nothing, and they'll work for two dollars an hour, driving down your wages, and they'll live ten to a house, and then you try to go out and have two or three jobs for ten bucks an hour, and you can't pay for the insurance, you can't pay the taxes, the property taxes, you can't pay to send your children to private school, much less hardly pay for their clothes for public school, because you live, you know, three or four to that little apartment. 0.76

00:12:35.000 And there's an unwritten rule, I have this from high-level apartment managers, Over, you know, whole cities.

00:12:42.000 Uh, that they've been told.

00:12:45.000 Illegal aliens are allowed to have as many as they want to an apartment.

00:12:47.000 You leave them alone.

00:12:48.000 Citizens, regardless of color, are to be kicked out immediately.

00:12:52.000 We've been given covert federal funding to do this.

00:12:55.000 You ask what covert federal funding?

00:12:57.000 I've seen the documents.

00:12:59.000 The covert federal funding is these big apartment chains have secretly That is unannounced, gone under government housing.

00:13:07.000 One-third of their housing is government housing.

00:13:09.000 They don't tell you when you move into your apartment complex.

00:13:11.000 That's happened and it's covertly, selectively enforced.

00:13:14.000 Just another side issue.

00:13:15.000 Just like illegal aliens, and aliens of this country, get 10 years of tax exemption to start their own business. 0.92

00:13:26.000 Just like China has a 40% tariff on us on average, we have a 2% on them.

00:13:30.000 It's impossible to compete.

00:13:35.000 And remember Bush in his last State of the Union, he said, this is not an amnesty.

00:13:43.000 This is not an amnesty.

00:13:44.000 It's like the tanks at Waco knocking down whole parts of the building, shooting NCS gas and flashbangs saying this is not an assault. 0.51

00:13:58.000 Oh my goodness.

00:14:02.000 Carl Rove continued saying that the President had a meeting this morning to discuss with a significant member of the Senate the prospect of immigration reform and he's going to make it an important item.

00:14:12.000 While the President was huddling with Mr. McCain, Secretary of State Colin Powell was pushing the plan during a visit to Mexico City.

00:14:20.000 You don't have to push it to them.

00:14:21.000 They've openly called for it.

00:14:23.000 The President remains committed to comprehensive immigration reform as a high priority to his second term.

00:14:28.000 He told a meeting of the U.S.-Mexico Binational Commission, we will work closely with our Congress to achieve this goal.

00:14:35.000 The key opponents in Congress at Mr. Bush's proposal isn't going anywhere.

00:14:40.000 An amnesty by any other name is still amnesty regardless of what the White House wants to call it, said Tom Tancreno, Colorado Republican and Chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.

00:14:50.000 Their amnesty plan was dead on arrival when they sent it to the Congress in January, and if they send the same peg on with lipstick back to Congress next January, it will suffer the same fate he said.

00:15:05.000 Folks, we have a thousand less Border Patrol on the southern border, hundreds less on the northern border.

00:15:09.000 Bush lied again during the debates and said we've got more.

00:15:11.000 It's just not true.

00:15:13.000 We've had the head of the Border Patrol Union on this year covering that.

00:15:19.000 They've actually cut Border Patrol's funding, cut the pay they get, and said, but if you go be a member of Homeland Security or Air Marshals, you get $24,000 extra the moment you go into training, on top of what you were being paid in the Border Patrol.

00:15:34.000 Then they said, you're not allowed to stop illegals in these certain areas, and you've got to just go out and pick up trash all day in the hot desert.

00:15:42.000 Go pick up garbage, coke cans, bags on the side of the road, and you're only allowed to look left or right, whatever area we tell you.

00:15:49.000 If you see illegals to your left, you can't even call the radio about them. 1.00

00:15:53.000 That's public.

00:15:55.000 It's designed, by the way, last year, They have the second annual meeting of a bilateral congress in Mexico.

00:16:06.000 They've been having these and now they're having more of them.

00:16:08.000 See, it's the Pan-American Union already.

00:16:11.000 The average American doesn't even know what that is.

00:16:17.000 Alright, Dion in Texas, you're on the air, welcome.

00:16:21.000 Hey, how you doing Alex?

00:16:23.000 Good!

00:16:24.000 I'm a young guy.

00:16:25.000 I'm only 23 years old.

00:16:27.000 I've been watching you since my teen years on Access Channel 16 in Austin.

00:16:34.000 I actually called, and I'm laughing because I called in response to a caller that called you yesterday.

00:16:43.000 Please, I'll be very quick and pointed with this.

00:16:47.000 Um, he called you in regard to the names of God and all this esoteric stuff and all of that.

00:16:52.000 Look, I wanted to be known here, one point is this, is that the leaders and rulers of this world who happen not only to be fleshly, but wicked rulers of this world, happen to be very intelligent and smart in duping the people about these esoteric issues of names and angels and Rites and rituals and all of that stuff and... Hello?

00:17:20.000 Yeah, you just hit your phone button.

00:17:22.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:17:23.000 And my second point is this.

00:17:25.000 I wanted to read Revelation 17 for just very pointed and going to the Greek stuff here because that caller's call was very unnecessary and uncalled for in relation to what it is that you're trying to do and exposing the New World Order who is very tied in to the beast Well, the point is people will complain about my demeanor or what I do.

00:17:49.000 It's not about me.

00:17:50.000 The fight is out there, folks.

00:17:52.000 But people disassociate from the big threats psychologically and then try to attack the messages.

00:17:58.000 It's like, you know, truth is truth whether, you know, whoever's telling it to you.

00:18:02.000 My father used to tell me if a bum on the side of the street tells you it's a blue sky on a sunny day, you're not going to believe him because he's a bum. 0.93

00:18:09.000 Of course you are!

00:18:11.000 Revelation 17, verse 4.

00:18:12.000 And the woman was arrayed with purple and scarlet, decked with gold, precious stone, pearls, having a cup of gold in her hand, yada yada yada, and a name written, a secret, Babylon the Great, mother of harlots and abominations on earth.

00:18:24.000 The Greek word used in 1715 was mysterion, which meant something that was secret and simply something that was not known at all.

00:18:32.000 In the old Greek, mystery, secret rites, only the initiated ones, or mustaei, knew the secrets.

00:18:39.000 Mousteria, the process of initiation, was described by the verb moussea or moua, which had to do with having a shut mouth, being by oaths or threats, a force to keep things secret without revealing anything to the uninitiated ones.

00:18:54.000 The A. Mousterostoi, in ancient Greece, or in ancient Rome, or ancient Persia, or in the founding days of America, It was often the upper ruling class people who were often initiated.

00:19:13.000 Thus, even in those days, the Mysteria worked as a secret club for men of power.

00:19:19.000 Likewise, you know, in our day, there are secretive organizations of that kind, such as, you know, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, whatever.

00:19:27.000 And so on, where the initiated ones, mostly people from the middle or upper classes, were generally the very upper, upper, upper class.

00:19:34.000 I'm not allowed to reveal anything about the organization's internal doings or real goals.

00:19:40.000 And the modern version of this is our intelligence agency.

00:19:43.000 Thanks for the call.

00:19:43.000 Exactly.

00:19:44.000 Dion, I've got to let you go.

00:19:46.000 Really good points.

00:19:47.000 I appreciate the call.

00:19:49.000 Johnny, Robert and many others, your calls are coming up and a lot more news.

00:19:53.000 I'd like to hear you comment on Bush.

00:19:55.000 He wants totally open borders.

00:19:56.000 He's got the power to do it.

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00:24:29.000 In Canada, Johnny, welcome.

00:24:31.000 Hey, how's it going?

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00:24:33.000 I just want to make a few points.

00:24:35.000 I was watching my local news last night up here in Vancouver, and they were talking about the influx of American calls to Canada immigration.

00:24:44.000 What, 100,000 the day after the elections?

00:24:47.000 Yeah, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, England, France, all have reported massive requests to immigrate.

00:24:56.000 Just hundreds of thousands of calls per country.

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00:25:01.000 What you're saying is accurate.

00:25:02.000 And not only that, I have a friend who is a big-time construction builder.

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00:25:13.000 He's building a 18,000 square foot home for a friend of George Sr.

00:25:20.000 Kind of odd, you know, to have somebody with that much money coming up to Vancouver, Canada to make a home that big.

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00:25:41.000 This is before 9-11.

00:25:43.000 And former CIA Deputy Directors, Fortune 500 CEOs, they are evacuating en masse out of this country.

00:25:53.000 And that's because the globalists do have a plan on the table.

00:25:56.000 I don't know if they'll implement it.

00:25:57.000 To release smallpox to new commander cities, to really bring us under martial law, to break freedoms back for good, to train us to accept national draft, mass arrest, giant FEMA camps, hell on earth in America. 0.51

00:26:11.000 And you notice that before they do this, they're moving all the factories off the country, they're destroying the dollar, they're sucking it all dry first.

00:26:21.000 And it looks like they may go ahead and do it.

00:26:24.000 Another thing, your video, 9-11, I guess Road to Cherny, I've got your video and I took it upon myself to go downtown here and I took 20 copies with me, some signs, your website, and just quite a bit of support for your video.

00:26:42.000 A lot of people have it.

00:26:43.000 Well, 20 people have it now, and I'm looking at possibly doing a mass viewing at a local theater here in Vancouver.

00:26:51.000 That is very exciting.

00:26:52.000 I mean, to see you, once you go to the City Council or something?

00:26:56.000 God, no. 0.97

00:26:56.000 They're corrupt anyways. 0.97

00:26:58.000 You're saying you took it downtown?

00:27:00.000 Downtown, in front of the Art Gallery, in front of people.

00:27:04.000 I had signs up.

00:27:05.000 I was kind of like my own little mini protest.

00:27:09.000 And it probably is very small on the scale of of action, but 20 more people have your video.

00:27:16.000 No, I mean I wouldn't say it is, because of those 20 who watch it, most of them will wake up, some of them will go on to warn others like you've done, and that's an unstoppable force.

00:27:25.000 Our city, Vancouver, is probably in Canada the biggest police city in Canada.

00:27:34.000 Our police has control over the city, where they've pretty much said at New Year's, Um, we don't want you in the downtown core unless you have somewhere to be.

00:27:45.000 Like, our city council is run by the police or vice versa, so... And don't they wear grey uniforms and big black knee-high boots in Vancouver?

00:27:54.000 Uh, no, they wear all black.

00:27:57.000 Well, I've got footage from Vancouver.

00:28:00.000 Was that some federal detail?

00:28:02.000 Where it's all these guys in grey uniforms with the knee-high black boots?

00:28:05.000 I can't recall if probably the SWAT or something, but our police is always in the news for assaults on people.

00:28:16.000 We had a Guns N' Roses riot where a father was Assaulted along with his daughter, you know, they were trying to get out of this riot and the police just came up and baton them in the face and they're, you know, they're suing the police and everything.

00:28:32.000 But, yeah, Vancouver is, I would say, one of the most restricted, you know, areas in Canada.

00:28:39.000 Well listen, keep it up, Johnny, and God bless.

00:28:42.000 Take care.

00:28:42.000 Robert in Colorado, thank you for holding.

00:28:44.000 Go ahead.

00:28:46.000 Thank you very much for taking my call, Alex.

00:28:47.000 I appreciate what you're doing.

00:28:48.000 You bet, Robert.

00:28:49.000 Good to hear from you.

00:28:49.000 What's on your mind?

00:28:50.000 A couple points.

00:28:52.000 First off, yesterday I commented on Bush and his desire to give amnesty to illegal aliens good when he's trying to run the country right into the ground.

00:29:00.000 He's doing that by letting people cross the border at will, taking jobs for pennies on the dollar, which will then kill our economy. 0.72

00:29:07.000 So be clear what's going on there.

00:29:11.000 I watched a CIA video on the website the other day with the five former CIA operatives talking about their past.

00:29:18.000 Yeah, PrisonPlanet.TV, yeah.

00:29:21.000 Yeah, man, that was something for this guy.

00:29:23.000 Well, stay there.

00:29:23.000 I'll let you finish up your other points when we get back, Robert.

00:29:26.000 Then we'll talk to KC and other, Robert, Fred, many others.

00:29:31.000 Wide open phones, a ton of news, and a great guest coming up.

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00:29:38.000 Stay with us, we'll finish up with Robert on the other side, then plunge into some news and more calls.

00:29:44.000 I just love freedom, and the globalists don't love freedom, and they're going to enslave us if we don't stand against them.

00:29:51.000 We have a chance.

00:29:52.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:32:59.000 Alright, coming up, more of your calls.

00:33:10.000 We'll also get into the battle for Fallujah that looks like it's going well for the oil company forces.

00:33:16.000 Again, I'm not against the troops.

00:33:18.000 I'm just being honest about who they work for.

00:33:21.000 Also, Bush's Attorney General pick may be down to Gonzalez and Thompson.

00:33:27.000 We will then get into a whole stack of police state news here as well.

00:33:33.000 But let's let Robert in Colorado finish up what he was saying before we move on.

00:33:38.000 Robert, you were making your second point.

00:33:40.000 Go ahead.

00:33:41.000 Yeah, I just finished watching the other day, excuse me, the CIA video you have on the prisonplant.tv about the former CIA operatives and talking about their past as a group of CIA.

00:33:53.000 Things they did, things they watched, and just openly admitting, yeah, we went into countries and set up operations, we watched people be killed, we murdered, we did this, we did that.

00:34:01.000 Just amazing.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, it's a higher organization, and they just go into countries and take over and kill, and it just doesn't matter.

00:34:09.000 And by the way, they go into countries that are pro-America, anti-communist, and once the country works with them, they then go ahead and overthrow it, too, so they can have it all.

00:34:19.000 Sure, exactly.

00:34:21.000 Two last quick points.

00:34:22.000 One, you just mentioned, uh, you mentioned the name of Thompson, Larry Thompson, who, if he becomes the Attorney General, would be the first, uh, minority African-American Attorney General.

00:34:31.000 Any significance to that, if he's appointed, or does it really matter who's the AG?

00:34:35.000 It doesn't matter. 0.88

00:34:36.000 They're total puppets. 0.93

00:34:37.000 That's what I thought.

00:34:38.000 Last thing, um, when you were with George Neary last week on Coast to Coast, you kind of alluded to Comparing our health care system, HMOs and so forth, to Canada's health care system, and that, I think what you said, correct me if I'm wrong, that Canada's really isn't much better than ours.

00:34:54.000 I always thought it was a pretty good system because I thought they had what is quote-unquote called socialized medicine, where everyone has a health card, you pay five dollars a month or five dollars a visit, you get all the health care you need, no restrictions on whatever race or money or economic status doesn't matter.

00:35:10.000 Am I completely wrong?

00:35:10.000 I know for really detailed Complex procedures.

00:35:15.000 A lot of rich Canadians come down here.

00:35:18.000 I know that over time the social systems always fall apart.

00:35:21.000 A lot of British have their own health care they pay for in England or they come here. 1.00

00:35:26.000 And what we have is socialism for the rich.

00:35:28.000 They socialize our money then give it to themselves and it's not free market.

00:35:32.000 So we kind of have a crony capitalist scam system in the US.

00:35:38.000 And then in Canada you've got a system with major problems too.

00:35:42.000 But common people who make $30,000-$40,000 a year can get health care without too much problems, or is that not really correct either?

00:35:50.000 Well, that's kind of really from what Canadians call into the show.

00:35:53.000 We've heard from them.

00:35:55.000 They don't like it.

00:35:56.000 Some of them do.

00:35:58.000 Well, it's not necessarily a panacea either for them.

00:35:59.000 Well, the problem is, look, take England now.

00:36:02.000 Let's say you were a smoker.

00:36:04.000 Well, we're not going to give you that lung surgery you need.

00:36:07.000 Or people have brain tumors.

00:36:09.000 There's a year and a half waiting list.

00:36:11.000 I mean, I've watched Tony Blair admit it in the House of Commons.

00:36:14.000 And he says, well, we've gotten it down from a year and a half to ten months.

00:36:18.000 You do not want socialist health care.

00:36:20.000 We used to have the best health care system in the world.

00:36:22.000 Everybody could get health care.

00:36:24.000 We had all the big developments because we were purely free market.

00:36:27.000 The more we leave that, the more problems we have.

00:36:30.000 Thanks for the call.

00:36:31.000 Thank you.

00:36:31.000 You bet, my friend.

00:36:32.000 Good to hear from you.

00:36:34.000 Casey and Robert and Fred and Mike and others, your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:36:37.000 Then I'll get into the battle for Fallujah and a lot of other news before our guest comes on.

00:36:42.000 But I want to tell you a story.

00:36:44.000 Last Friday, a caller called in and said, Alex, have you smelt and tasted the water in Austin, Texas?

00:36:53.000 He says, it totally stinks now, and it's never stunk.

00:36:57.000 You know, it tastes bad, but it's better than some cities.

00:37:00.000 And I said, you know, it's funny you say that.

00:37:01.000 I mentioned it to my wife when I was, you know, washing dishes off, where I put them in the washing machine, that the water stunk.

00:37:09.000 Then last night I was at the TV station, And Mike Hanson took a drink out of it and went, UGH!

00:37:14.000 And spit it out of the water fountain and said, you know, he's been drinking out of that water fountain and I occasionally drink out of it when I don't have a Berkey sports bottle with me for, you know, for a decade.

00:37:23.000 It's never tasted like that.

00:37:24.000 Then I go to Threadgill's for good Southern cooking to eat dinner last night after the TV show and I'm there and I said to her, I said, well, I never drink water anyways unless it's filtered, but I guess maybe I'll have some water.

00:37:42.000 And she goes, are you sure you want the water?

00:37:44.000 And I said, what do you mean?

00:37:44.000 She goes, everybody's saying it stinks and tastes bad.

00:37:48.000 And the guy I was eating dinner with, Kevin, said, yeah, a bunch of people have been saying it stinks and tastes bad.

00:37:54.000 I've tasted it.

00:37:56.000 So, this is everywhere.

00:37:59.000 Something's going on with the water.

00:38:02.000 And it smells and tastes, you know that smell of sewage when a river gets sewage dumped in it?

00:38:07.000 You drive over a bridge and you smell it, that acrid sewage smell?

00:38:12.000 That's what the water in Austin right now, and everybody's been calling me about it.

00:38:16.000 Now I'm getting emails about it.

00:38:19.000 Number one, folks, it's full of pesticides, herbicides, mercury, lead, the sodium fluoride, then bonds with different Dead bacteria and enzymes, the chlorine.

00:38:33.000 Why would any of you drink tap water?

00:38:37.000 Why would you not filter your water?

00:38:40.000 It's crazy!

00:38:43.000 I mean, why trust this government?

00:38:44.000 Remember Vioxx recall?

00:38:46.000 Now it's come out for five years.

00:38:48.000 They knew what Vioxx was doing, but it made the heart disintegrate, but they covered it up.

00:38:54.000 I mean, they even found this out, again, back in the late 1990s.

00:38:57.000 But they covered it up.

00:38:58.000 It's just like they know Prozac makes kids commit suicide.

00:39:01.000 They covered that up.

00:39:02.000 Why do you trust anything these corporations or this government does?

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00:39:20.000 I don't know why they don't get sports bottles that filter the water to take to work.

00:39:23.000 I don't know why people know what's going on, but they can't even take control in this one area that gives them so much power over their own lives, Debbie.

00:39:32.000 You know, Alex, I don't know why either, because normally it's such a simple thing to take care of your drinking water.

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00:40:05.000 I was thinking it was like 5 cents a day.

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00:40:22.000 I've since bought about eight of them, three or four for myself, others for gifts.

00:40:27.000 I would buy two or three bottles of water a day.

00:40:29.000 Correct.

00:40:30.000 And it turns out the bottled water in some cases is more dangerous than tap water.

00:40:33.000 It is tap water.

00:40:34.000 Yeah, it really is in a lot of cases.

00:40:37.000 And there have been Studies have shown on bottled water that the water has bacteria in it, you know, and you can read about it.

00:40:48.000 Regular news has reports.

00:40:52.000 Well, a couple years ago a couple people died.

00:40:54.000 Died in New York from Dannon water.

00:40:57.000 Yep, that's true.

00:40:58.000 And people have died from faucet water and I'm so surprised when you said you all drink out of the faucet occasionally at the studio because I go to the gym.

00:41:08.000 You know how it is.

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00:41:18.000 Yeah.

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00:42:50.000 Debbie, thanks for coming on, and thanks for the great job you do.

00:42:54.000 Oh, thank you, Alex.

00:42:55.000 Have a wonderful day, and God bless.

00:42:57.000 You're awesome.

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00:43:06.000 Hi Alex.

00:43:07.000 I just want to let you know I just got off the phone with Doug Quinn.

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00:43:15.000 All right, let's go back to the calls.

00:43:16.000 Thank you for holding.

00:43:17.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to KC. 0.52

00:43:20.000 KC's calling from Minnesota.

00:43:21.000 Welcome, KC. - Hi, Alex.

00:43:24.000 I just want to let you know, I just got off the phone with Doug Clint.

00:43:27.000 He's a Vice President and General Counsel for Taser International.

00:43:31.000 And the reason for me calling him, I just want to get down to the bottom of the non-lethal technology cloak that they're using to-- - That they admit have killed 70 people.

00:43:39.000 That's their own public statement.

00:43:40.000 Exactly.

00:43:41.000 I found out that, you know, within the DOD's defense, or definition of non-lethal technology, it specifically states that it's important to note that the Department of Defense policy does not require Or expect non-lethal weapons to have a zero probability of... Actually, the real name for them is less lethal weapons.

00:43:59.000 Exactly.

00:44:00.000 So I just wanted to get some advice from you on how can we try to compel these companies, these taser companies, from not using that corrupted definition to capitalize off of being... I think it is false advertising that they sell these as

00:44:15.000 less lethal and you know now somebody gets belligerent with the cops and they taser you three times in fact in Road to Tyranny we have video of our listeners from the sky chopper when he was there in Arizona he gets pulled over they tell him get out of the car he does nothing wrong and the police admitted this and they go ahead and taser him three times and when he's on the ground let a German Shepherd chew on him all because they

00:44:44.000 The cop saw a compound bow, a hunting bow, in the back of the RV, and so, just because he might be a threat, they went ahead and tasered him three times, and he's flopping around with the police dog enjoying itself.

00:44:56.000 I mean, it's... You know, cops, if you want to go hunt people, you know, go join the Chinese military or something. 0.67

00:45:04.000 I mean, really, this is hunting people.

00:45:07.000 Do you know if NTIC has anything to do with the tasers?

00:45:11.000 Yeah, I'm aware of that organization.

00:45:12.000 Let me tell you what this is really all about.

00:45:14.000 Okay.

00:45:14.000 I mean, I'm sure you know this.

00:45:15.000 the joint non-lethal weapons dictatoria to affect the next generation of non-lethal capabilities by identifying promoting the development of innovative innovative concepts, materials and technologies with academic community.

00:45:28.000 - Yeah, I'm aware of that organization.

00:45:30.000 Let me tell you what this is really all about.

00:45:32.000 - Okay. - I mean, I'm sure you know this.

00:45:34.000 A bigger facet of less lethal weapons is that they want to train the police in their federally issued Darth Vader outfits The ski mask, the armored face mask, the armored Darth Vader outfits.

00:45:48.000 I mean, some of them even have like little black capes they wear.

00:45:51.000 They claim that cover up their equipment behind them so you can't grab it.

00:45:55.000 Yes, I'm not joking folks.

00:45:56.000 We have photos of them now wearing black capes.

00:46:00.000 It's getting too crazy.

00:46:02.000 All federally issued and paid for with Homeland Security grants.

00:46:05.000 In Miami, earlier this year, for that whole thing, where they attacked innocent union workers and federal judges and AP reporters, they spent tens of millions of dollars from the Defense Department Iraq budget to do that.

00:46:20.000 What this is about is training the public, the news cameras, the police, that the image of police shooting at peaceful people is acceptable.

00:46:29.000 So it's part of a desynthetization campaign.

00:46:31.000 And now they're announcing, ooh, we've got sound wave weapons and microwave guns deployed to cities.

00:46:38.000 And we've got emergency roundup centers in every major city.

00:46:42.000 Just use them in New York.

00:46:43.000 So that's really what this is all about, is training everybody to see these weapons used.

00:46:49.000 A couple other things I'd like to mention is that I definitely commend that Johnny from Vancouver for getting out and taking a part in this community and trying to get information out to people.

00:46:59.000 I think it's very important that people in Houston, or no, Austin, they check their tap water.

00:47:04.000 Get it examined or something and find out what's going on with that before that becomes a problem for people.

00:47:10.000 Well, I mean, I grew up in Dallas and the water tasted like gasoline.

00:47:14.000 Houston's even worse.

00:47:15.000 But Austin's always had decent tap water except for adding chlorine and fluoride, which is aquifer water.

00:47:21.000 But it tastes and smells like sewage.

00:47:25.000 And it's tasted like this for a couple weeks, and it seems to be getting worse, and people have called the news, and they go, we don't know what you're talking about.

00:47:32.000 Do you have any idea on how I can further address this Taser issue locally?

00:47:37.000 I plan on calling one of the trainers at the local police department to ask them.

00:47:42.000 Well, they're in Scottsdale, Arizona, aren't they?

00:47:45.000 Which one?

00:47:46.000 Taser's base there.

00:47:47.000 Oh, the Taser International?

00:47:48.000 I'm not sure where that's from.

00:47:50.000 But no, I mean, I would point out that a lot of people are dying from these.

00:47:54.000 Because it seems like every week somebody's dying now because they're using them so much.

00:47:59.000 He used an analogy about them tasering an anesthetized pig because it most closely, out of mammals, resembles a human.

00:48:08.000 And then I tried to point out the difference.

00:48:10.000 When you taser something anesthetized, there's no resistance.

00:48:13.000 But when you taser somebody that may or may not be on drugs, Who's obviously, you know, in fear and in panic and maybe, you know, resisting being tased by the police.

00:48:23.000 It can cause a death, you know, twenty, thirty minutes later.

00:48:25.000 No, I hear you.

00:48:26.000 I appreciate the call.

00:48:27.000 This is my final comment on this.

00:48:30.000 Overall, police pull their guns all the time and shoot people that are just arguing with them.

00:48:37.000 You know, hotheads, usually young cops. 0.94

00:48:40.000 And so, maybe it is better that the hotheads are just going to taser you instead of shooting you. 0.69

00:48:46.000 But then there's the other side of that that needs to be studied.

00:48:49.000 This will also make the police more apt to go ahead and pull the taser weapon for people who've done nothing wrong.

00:48:55.000 So it kind of gets them trained to go ahead and pull a weapon.

00:48:59.000 I don't know.

00:49:00.000 It needs to be studied.

00:49:02.000 But certainly, you know, the footage of after a hurricane, 14 days after, this guy's dogs are You know, at the house, and he dumped a bag of dog food on the ground and filled up a bunch of big bowls of water and left, because he didn't have room in the car for all the children, his wife, and the dogs, and the cat.

00:49:22.000 And so he came back 14 days later and he said, look, let me in.

00:49:25.000 I don't have money for hotels.

00:49:26.000 I'm broke.

00:49:27.000 You know, middle class guy in his minivan.

00:49:30.000 And, uh, he's arguing with them.

00:49:31.000 He just gets out and argues and he's waving his hands going, come on, let me through!

00:49:35.000 And the cops taser him twice and he falls on his head on the concrete.

00:49:38.000 That's what kills people a lot, is they just... Bam!

00:49:41.000 You know, you get tasered, you fall back from six feet, and you hit your head and get a... get a, uh, serious concussion and get brain damaged or die.

00:49:49.000 Or they taser, you know, some 55-year-old man who didn't know he had a couple of arteries clogged and it makes the heart seize up and they die.

00:49:57.000 That's what a lot of this is.

00:49:59.000 Alex, you're a great American patriot.

00:50:01.000 I'm losing my mind.

00:50:03.000 I live in California.

00:50:04.000 with I mean it's just crazy let's go ahead and talk to Robert in California Robert go ahead Alex you're a great American Patriot oh you are go ahead I'm losing my mind I live in California I was born in Texas and they're for dating our water so I'll try to be articulate Oh, I'm going to pass the law to ensure your health!

00:50:26.000 I know they love us so very much.

00:50:28.000 I wanted to talk about Texas, because I think it's so important.

00:50:32.000 Is it true that Texas is a sovereign country, because I've heard that for years, and it's only by de facto that the federal government puts bases there, and so you have to comply?

00:50:40.000 That is true.

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00:53:55.000 All right, my friends, Alex Jones Alex Jones here back live.

00:54:24.000 Honored and blessed to be your host.

00:54:27.000 Humbled.

00:54:28.000 Let's go ahead and go back to Robert in California making some points.

00:54:33.000 Go ahead, Robert.

00:54:34.000 Again, Alex, I'm one of your subscribers.

00:54:36.000 I've watched everything you've put together so far.

00:54:38.000 And the other caller who was just mentioning the CIA documentary.

00:54:42.000 Some of those operatives started a new problem reaction solution program in Austin yesterday.

00:54:46.000 You probably heard about it.

00:54:48.000 The so-called hijacker, carjacker gang.

00:54:51.000 They took a car, shot up with automatic weapons, seven police cars.

00:54:55.000 They didn't fire a single shot back.

00:54:57.000 Then they hijacked another car on the freeway, shot up three more police cars.

00:55:01.000 And the cops said, oh, they got away in all the confusion.

00:55:05.000 Just like remember four years ago in L.A., when the cops wanted to reinforce the assault weapons ban and get automatic weapons for all the police?

00:55:12.000 They sent in a few mentoring candidates into that bank.

00:55:15.000 With AKs, they shot up the place and then waited for the cops to come and kill them in the middle of the street.

00:55:21.000 You recall that?

00:55:22.000 I know they do it over and over again.

00:55:23.000 Well, this was headline news yesterday.

00:55:26.000 Just in the middle of the freeway with them shooting up top cars with automatic weapons.

00:55:30.000 So, I'm surprised you didn't hear about that one yet, but I got the scoop.

00:55:33.000 No, I've got the article.

00:55:35.000 It's just...

00:55:37.000 You know, the point is, no matter what goes on with guns, that's more reason that we, the citizens, should own them.

00:55:43.000 Because you can't trust the criminals to have them, you can't trust the government to have them, but criminals and the government are going to have them, so we, the people, who are your boss's government, are going to have guns.

00:55:53.000 Well, Ashcroft just quit and now they've got the Alberto Gonzales replacement, so I guess he'll make sure that those automatic weapons in Austin and Dallas and all over Texas are confiscated so everybody's safer.

00:56:07.000 Because Texas is a, talk about this for a second, is a sovereign country.

00:56:13.000 I don't think most Americans realize that.

00:56:17.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:56:19.000 And this case is very, very suspicious.

00:56:21.000 But, you know, in the long run, we're going to win this fight.

00:56:25.000 The New World Order isn't going to get away with what they're doing.

00:56:27.000 Thanks for the call, Robert.

00:56:29.000 I appreciate it.

00:56:30.000 Before I end this hour, and we're going to come back with Patricia Springmeyer, but we'll go to your calls early in the hour.

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00:58:36.000 Lamar suite 100 Austin Texas 7 8 7 0 4 second hour a great guest your calls a ton of news straight ahead so be sure and stay with us we'll be right back big brother mainstream media government cover-ups You want answers?

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Welcome back, my friends, into hour number two on this Wednesday, the 10th day of November, 2004 edition.

00:59:23.000 Patricia, Springmeyer will be joining us to talk about the false arrest and frame-up of her husband, Fritz Springmeyer.

00:59:31.000 We're also going to be taking your calls.

00:59:33.000 Bush has announced he wants a total blank in amnesty, but then he says it's not amnesty.

00:59:39.000 So that's very interesting.

00:59:41.000 We'll be going over that as well.

00:59:44.000 Bush is picking a new Attorney General.

00:59:46.000 It's down to Gonzales and Thompson.

00:59:49.000 They say leaning towards Gonzales.

00:59:51.000 It won't matter who the new Attorney General is.

00:59:53.000 These guys carry out what the globalists tell them to do.

00:59:56.000 Why is Ashcroft and others leaving?

00:59:58.000 Because then, you know, all these boogeyman names we've associated are gone, and those lightning rods for resistance are removed, and we've got to learn who the new villains are.

01:00:07.000 The point is, the Congress has passed the Patriot Act II, the National ID Card, Total Information Awareness Network package, and it's pending to go to the President's desk, regardless of who the Attorney General is.

01:00:20.000 Also, U.S.

01:00:21.000 troops hope to conquer Fallujah in the next 48 hours.

01:00:24.000 U.S.

01:00:24.000 troops already have about 70% and they vowed to take the rest of it in the next 48 hours as kidnappers threatened to kill at least two members of the Iraqi Prime Minister's family, al-Alawi's family, unless the assault was stopped.

01:00:41.000 As the news tightened around the besieged city, seen as the epicenter of an insurgency gripping Iraq, violence raged elsewhere with six Iraqi guards and one U.S.

01:00:51.000 soldier killed in a string of roadside bombings while armed men stormed through the main northern city of Mosul.

01:00:58.000 Alawi has vowed to crush the rebellion ahead of elections planned for January and sees the right of Fallujah as key to achieving his goal.

01:01:08.000 But the tough-talking Premier's own family became caught up in the mayhem after a gang in three cars abducted his cousin.

01:01:16.000 Yahiz Alawi, his cousin's wife and daughter-in-law, on Tuesday, a source from Alawi's political party, said, a previous unknown group threatened to kill the three within 48 hours unless Alawi halts the assault on Fallujah and releases all Iraqi prisoners.

01:01:32.000 In an internet statement Wednesday, it was impossible to authenticate the statement.

01:01:37.000 The Prime Minister's office confirmed the kidnapping of the 75-year-old cousin and his daughter-in-law, but gave no information on the wife.

01:01:47.000 Wow, they were taken from the Cousins' house in southern Baghdad, but there was no mention about whether any demands had been made.

01:01:55.000 That could be real, that could be some staged CIA op to make people love Alawi, the appointed dictator.

01:02:02.000 It's a circus, and you know, the forces go in and take over one area, and then it flares up in ten other areas.

01:02:08.000 It's just top special forces and guerrilla warfare experts, who are for the war, by the way, so we're going to lose it.

01:02:16.000 I mean, you just cannot win this type of war.

01:02:19.000 The globalists don't care.

01:02:20.000 If it springs out for ten years, there'll be hundreds of billions of dollars a year in weapons sales, and Halliburton and others will get most of that, and then it'll hype the Arabs up to hate us and cause them to carry out more real attacks. 0.95

01:02:32.000 It's part of the Pentagon P-2-O-G plan. 0.69

01:02:36.000 Part of an escalation, or known as Problem-Reaction-Solution.

01:02:41.000 But U.S.

01:02:41.000 forces, as of a few hours ago, said they hold 70% of Fallujah, And the fighting has really escalated now and more reports of dead and wounded U.S.

01:02:54.000 troops and a lot of dead Iraqi civilians.

01:02:56.000 It's a tragedy.

01:02:58.000 Meanwhile, blast wounds Dutch police in a raid.

01:03:00.000 Three Dutch police officers have been wounded in an explosion during an anti-terror raid on a house in The Hague.

01:03:06.000 Two of the police officers remain in hospital after the grenade blast.

01:03:10.000 Shots were also fired during the raid.

01:03:12.000 The area near the Hollandspoor train station was sealed off and airspace immediately over it.

01:03:16.000 It closed.

01:03:17.000 Meanwhile, a Muslim school in Ouden has been burned down.

01:03:21.000 Part of the spot of attacks following a murder of a filmmaker.

01:03:25.000 Theo Van Gogh, a critic of Islam, attacks a targeted Christian and Muslim buildings across the Netherlands.

01:03:34.000 So, just what the globalists want, an escalation, a war, a holy war on both sides.

01:03:42.000 Heating up the New World Order. 0.81

01:03:45.000 We're facing decades of this.

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01:07:14.000 The installed dictator of Iraq.

01:07:21.000 That's just the facts, folks.

01:07:23.000 Alawi has now had some of his family kidnapped.

01:07:28.000 We don't know if this is staged, theater, or real.

01:07:30.000 It could be real.

01:07:32.000 Could be actually independent Arab groups.

01:07:37.000 But generally it's staged in most cases.

01:07:40.000 And again, we've had dozens of articles that have come out where they, where a lawless government captures an aid worker and threatens to cut her head off for three days, then quietly releases her.

01:07:50.000 It all creates fear and makes people think there's all these terrorists.

01:07:53.000 But there are real terror bombings going on.

01:07:55.000 There are our troops being shot at and killed.

01:07:58.000 Our troops have been bombarding now for a week and basically leveling Fallujah, and they've now got 70% of the city, our government saying, and I tend to not doubt that, because there is foreign press and they're confirming that, and now it's caused a bunch of other things to flare up around the country.

01:08:19.000 We'll be getting into that, and oh, Al-Sawari, the good CIA agent he is, not likely in Fallujah.

01:08:25.000 They're saying he probably escaped.

01:08:26.000 They claim they've killed this guy four times, by the way.

01:08:30.000 And also, we'll be getting into some other police state news here domestically, as well as escalations in Asia.

01:08:38.000 Japan Navy mobilized after mystery submarine spotted.

01:08:42.000 North Korea's been threatening them again.

01:08:46.000 We'll also be covering Local Teen Faces Terror Charge out of the Democrat and Chronicle newspaper.

01:08:53.000 More people being charged as terrorists.

01:08:55.000 And Bush wants blanket total amnesty for all illegal aliens.

01:08:58.000 He wants it now.

01:09:00.000 We'll be going over that.

01:09:02.000 And I have a story here about plans by the big drug companies to basically force more of the population onto their deadly drugs.

01:09:12.000 But I've got a lady on with me who is really a great person and has done so much good work in fighting the New World Order. 0.99

01:09:21.000 I carry one of her husband's best works.

01:09:25.000 His name is Fritz Springmeier, Bloodlines of the Illuminati.

01:09:28.000 We have his latest edition, the last thing he did before he was framed with bank robbery.

01:09:35.000 Fritz Springmeier had been raided by police before.

01:09:37.000 Oh, we're here to see if you're growing marijuana.

01:09:40.000 Oh, we're here to see if you're involved in tax evasion.

01:09:43.000 Oh, we're here to see if you're involved in And then they got a convicted criminal, an informant, who was facing jail time themselves to basically go in and testify against Fritz when witnesses said they saw someone completely different.

01:10:00.000 And Fritz, with no criminal record, was arrested and on the words of this individual, went to jail.

01:10:08.000 And why has Fritz been harassed so much?

01:10:10.000 Why did he go through so much?

01:10:12.000 Because he exposed a lot of public officials.

01:10:14.000 He exposed Bohemian Grove.

01:10:16.000 He exposed government mine control operations.

01:10:19.000 And he listed the elite Illuminati families.

01:10:22.000 Instead of talking about, you know, presidents and prime ministers who were just puppets all day, he focused on the bloodlines.

01:10:29.000 And Fritz is one of the few people I know, the only person, who talked about the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas, or the German royal family that runs England and the Netherlands, known as the House of Windsor, being connected back to Dracul, or Vlad the Impaler.

01:10:48.000 Who then married into all the major bloodlines of the Middle Ages.

01:10:52.000 Now MSNBC and the major Berks Parish and other publications have said that their bloodlines trace directly back to that Illuminati bloodline.

01:11:02.000 So more of what Fritz documented is now public and he certainly paid the price for it.

01:11:07.000 A very upright, quiet, gentlemanly person framed with bank robbery.

01:11:13.000 Clearly.

01:11:14.000 And remember, this is the same government that framed 56 black people, no criminal records.

01:11:19.000 Admittedly, they never dealt drugs, no evidence.

01:11:21.000 They all got life in prison from 20 to 98 years in prison.

01:11:24.000 And then that turned out it was all staged.

01:11:28.000 We have the FBI framing people in Boston and running murder for hire.

01:11:31.000 We've caught them in L.A.

01:11:32.000 doing it.

01:11:32.000 I mean, we've caught just hundreds of cases.

01:11:35.000 The Houston Crime Lab caught Framing the police chief admitted 2,000 people in an assembly line fashion.

01:11:42.000 No one was ever found innocent.

01:11:44.000 Everyone was framed who went through their crime lab for DNA or other forensics evidence.

01:11:50.000 Dallas, I'm just using Texas examples, was caught.

01:11:54.000 Two years ago, in an assembly line, pulling over people with nice cars, throwing a bag of chalk in the back, seizing their car, their homes.

01:12:02.000 Then the crime lab would certify it as cocaine.

01:12:05.000 They would then give them 20 to 50 years in prison.

01:12:09.000 Turned out, and again, you don't just have the corrupt cops doing it.

01:12:11.000 The crime lab, the prosecutors, this went on for years.

01:12:15.000 And the same thing happened to Fritz.

01:12:17.000 They tried to blame Mark Kornke, one of the leaders of the militia, Very intelligent individual.

01:12:24.000 A few years ago, he was going to mail a check at the post office, put it in the mailbox, and then an old gray-haired man, nothing like Mark, walked in, did this bank robbery, turned out he was an FBI agent, out of stage bank robbery, and then they run Mark off the road, And say he robbed the bank and say he rammed a police car when they ran him off the road.

01:12:47.000 We even have the squad car video of this.

01:12:49.000 And the cops are on the tape, the state police going, and the county police going, wait a minute.

01:12:54.000 We just went to the bank, they said it was an old gray-haired man.

01:12:57.000 Why are we following Mark Kornke?

01:13:00.000 Well, the FBI told them to do it, and so they run Mark off the road, and then, okay, we saw the surveillance video.

01:13:05.000 It isn't you robbing the bank, Mark, but we're still going to convict you for assaulting police because we ran you off the road.

01:13:11.000 I mean, I have the video out of the squad car with the cop going, the lead deputy going, well, why are we following the state police's orders?

01:13:19.000 Why are we doing this?

01:13:20.000 Mark didn't rob the bank.

01:13:23.000 Why are we following him?

01:13:24.000 This is before they turned their lights on and ran him off the road.

01:13:28.000 And the sheriff says on the tape, go to cell phone.

01:13:32.000 And the cop hangs the radio up and goes to cell phone.

01:13:35.000 So, you know, this is how they do it.

01:13:39.000 That's an introduction to this, and now we have people, Puffer Belly Toys in Oregon, the same area that Kurt Springmeier was in.

01:13:46.000 A little bitty toy store in St.

01:13:48.000 Helens selling Rubik's Cubes that may have been knock-offs.

01:13:51.000 Turns out they were legal.

01:13:52.000 Homeland Security came and visited her, ordered her to take them off the shelves.

01:13:56.000 The doctor, the veteran in Iowa yesterday, arrested last week because he, quote, made too many calls to the VA and went on the radio and talked about it.

01:14:04.000 Homeland Security came and cuffed him and arrested him for, basically, because they said it's a part of terrorism, it was even in the newspaper, to call the government too much.

01:14:14.000 A man in Wisconsin last year, and this is in Police State 3, total enslavement, the news articles, headline, paper, terrorist convicted.

01:14:23.000 They wanted 50 years in prison because a veteran in a wheelchair who owned 35 acres on a river wouldn't sell.

01:14:29.000 And they were offering him pennies on the dollar.

01:14:33.000 And they wanted to build a shopping mall there, and so He sued them and they said suing public officials is not acceptable.

01:14:40.000 It is a form of harassment and terror.

01:14:43.000 And so he was given five years in prison because the judge was lenient.

01:14:48.000 And then the State Attorney General that pushed it all moved in and got the property himself.

01:14:53.000 That was in the Milwaukee Journal, folks.

01:14:55.000 I mean, this is open, public, this is the type of stuff we see all day.

01:14:58.000 Patricia Springmeier, wife of the political prisoner Fritz Springmeier, good to have you on with us.

01:15:06.000 Thank you so much for having me, Alex.

01:15:08.000 I'm just really delighted to be on your show today.

01:15:12.000 And so is Fritz.

01:15:13.000 Well, you know, it's been a long time.

01:15:15.000 We just kept playing phone tag, but when, of course, we carry Bloodlines of the Illuminati, we'll tell folks how to get that today.

01:15:21.000 And, of course, that supports you, but also other books that you've got, a lot of which are about to go out of print, that people can get this knowledgeable info.

01:15:28.000 I mean, they were clearly, I mean, I remember for years following the harassment you guys went through.

01:15:34.000 But in a nutshell, tell us about Fritz and yourself, what Fritz wrote about, and then the harassment you went through.

01:15:39.000 Well, you mentioned Bloodlines of the Illuminati.

01:15:44.000 And then he and Cisco Wheeler co-authored, and she's a former Illuminati, from a family.

01:15:54.000 They co-authored a book called The Illuminati Formula, used to create an undetectable, total mind control slave.

01:16:01.000 And it basically tells how they create slaves out of their own family members, and also They've, in recent years, they have been doing outreach.

01:16:15.000 And this is why Bush and others don't have a conscience, is because they've been through these programs themselves.

01:16:22.000 By the way, I just gotta throw this in.

01:16:23.000 I have a Hollywood producer friend, I mean a big Hollywood producer. 0.95

01:16:27.000 And he lived in New York and he said all these beautiful, smart women openly live in million-dollar penthouses and they openly brag that they are high-dollar prostitutes for top Republicans And then he goes, he knows them, that they're really mind control slaves, but go ahead. 0.97

01:16:43.000 Yes, yes.

01:16:46.000 Cisco Wheeler was a former Illuminati Mother of Darkness, and so she was within the highest level of Illuminati rituals and what they only keep to themselves within their family.

01:17:02.000 Other people who are Illuminati, mind-controlled slaves, who are from non-Illuminati families, say for instance Kathy O'Brien, they're programmed for sex slaves, drug mules, assassins, and that sort of thing.

01:17:22.000 And they don't engage in the actual highest level rituals.

01:17:29.000 And the people, many of the people that engage in the highest level rituals, they become programmer handlers themselves.

01:17:39.000 It's amazing, and there's a lot of evidence to this.

01:17:42.000 I mean, NASA admits they spent billions of dollars in this, and this stuff goes on all over the place.

01:17:49.000 Oh yeah, it was perfected, it's been going on for thousands of years, but it was perfected in Nazi Germany. 0.91

01:17:57.000 And then a lot of the doctors, you know, along with the missile and rocket experts, as most people know, after World War II.

01:18:06.000 Highway experts, everything in our country was basically designed by Nazis. 0.97

01:18:11.000 Our modern world is the vision of Adolf Hitler. 0.92

01:18:14.000 It is so sad.

01:18:16.000 Yep, you're absolutely right.

01:18:19.000 So, I think the exposure of this, this is really Yeah, we're about to break, but we'll continue with this on the other side and what Fritz exposed and paid a big price for it.

01:18:34.000 We'll be right back with his wife, Patricia, and we'll continue.

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01:22:55.000 All right, we're talking to Patricia Springmeyer, wife of Fritz Springmeyer.

01:23:01.000 Clearly, I looked at the case, I spent many hours studying it, and I was aware of the harassment they were going through previous to this.

01:23:09.000 They got way too close to it, did too much research, and no matter how insane these books sound, I went and researched many case points in it and found it to be extremely accurate.

01:23:20.000 Continuing though, your husband was delving deep into this, research onto this, and the harassment began.

01:23:27.000 Tell us how that started.

01:23:29.000 Okay, well Alex, Fritz and I had just gotten married October 26th of the year 2000, and I had just moved out to Oregon from Denver, and lo and behold, February of 2001, so that's about five months later, we have a whole SWAT team with the FBI and DATF and the whole shot comes barging into our door.

01:24:00.000 on uh... with the marijuana grow warrant okay so we uh... were handcuffed with plastic ties and sat around the house the entire day uh... being interviewed uh... while they ransacked everything they went through every drawer every cabinet and of course it would take them ten minutes to find out if he had marijuana I know it was outrageous And of course, a lot of the questions weren't about marijuana, were they?

01:24:28.000 Oh, no, no.

01:24:30.000 They sat me down in my office and said, I think they have a degree in criminalistics with a minor in accounting.

01:24:40.000 Because the first thing out of their mouth was, do you know how much equity he's got in this house?

01:24:46.000 And I'm thinking, what?

01:24:49.000 And then I'm realizing, oh, you know, they want the house.

01:24:52.000 And so I said, I have no idea.

01:24:54.000 You know, do you know what kind of mortgage?

01:24:56.000 I said, we haven't been married long enough to look, you know, that I've looked into all that stuff.

01:25:01.000 I said, I would think that he's probably got a 30 year mortgage.

01:25:05.000 I said, he hasn't owned the house, you know, he bought the house in 1999.

01:25:10.000 So I said, I guess go from there.

01:25:12.000 You know, you have to put a 10% down or something like this.

01:25:15.000 And so I said, so I don't know.

01:25:18.000 But you'd think they'd be able to find out.

01:25:21.000 And so then they asked me if he had any offshore accounts.

01:25:27.000 And I said, I don't know.

01:25:29.000 I don't think so.

01:25:30.000 Basically, they were there to stop what he was doing with the books.

01:25:36.000 Yes, and to find out and to get into all of our business.

01:25:40.000 It was pretty outrageous.

01:25:42.000 And then they finally took us into the police station by 4.30 that afternoon.

01:25:46.000 Now they came at 9.30 in the morning.

01:25:49.000 Oh, and we also had $1,400 that we had gotten from the bank the day before to purchase a van to replace the van that Fritz had broken down.

01:25:59.000 So on the phone, I'm sure our phone was tapped, They overheard Fritz talking to the guy in Lake Oswego who had the van for sale, and the guy wanted cash on the barrel head the next day, and so they knew that Fritz would have $1400 the next day, which is the day of the raid.

01:26:18.000 And so they took that as well and called it drug money.

01:26:21.000 But they didn't find any drugs?

01:26:23.000 No, they did not find anything.

01:26:26.000 And so... I mean, if folks knew Fritz Springmeier, you know, I've met him and interviewed him, but this is the last person on earth, an incredibly devout Christian, the last person you'd find smoking marijuana.

01:26:36.000 And of course there's no marijuana found, no nothing, but they go ahead and take you on into the police station.

01:26:42.000 Oh yeah, they took us into the police station and held us until about 9.30 or 10.

01:26:50.000 It was about 10 o'clock that night.

01:26:52.000 So we were left to, and the police station was over in Clackamas County, which is miles away from where we lived.

01:26:59.000 So we had to take a bus into Gresham, and then we had to take a $40 cab ride up to our house because we lived out in the country.

01:27:08.000 So it was a pretty expensive day there, and we were just glad to get home by the end of the day.

01:27:15.000 But they didn't charge us with anything.

01:27:17.000 They didn't They didn't set any bail.

01:27:22.000 They didn't charge us.

01:27:22.000 They just told us that they could charge us with something in the future.

01:27:26.000 And under that form of seizure, no drugs, no nothing, they still took your money?

01:27:30.000 Oh, they took, yeah.

01:27:32.000 Yeah.

01:27:33.000 And Fritz had a couple of hunting rifles.

01:27:36.000 And they took those.

01:27:38.000 So, gun confiscations on top of it.

01:27:42.000 Right.

01:27:44.000 Oh gosh, I had a copy of The Ugly Truth about the ADL, they took that, and they hemmed and hawed over that.

01:27:53.000 So, that's about where that stands.

01:27:56.000 I looked on the police list, property list, and noticed that it said $1,359, but it was $1,400.

01:28:01.000 $1,159 but it was $1,400 and it's also then or after that these informants, these provocateurs start coming around into your life do you say after that or before that?

01:28:17.000 Well, just from what I've read and the things that are out there.

01:28:19.000 I mean, we'll come back and get it from the horse's mouth after this break.

01:28:22.000 But, uh... Fritches, yeah, Fritches, he's been harassed before.

01:28:26.000 People have tried to run him off the road and he has had people, you know, strange people approach him and try and look him up.

01:28:33.000 And some of it's very innocent because they're people that have a story to tell.

01:28:37.000 We've got a break.

01:28:38.000 We'll be right back.

01:28:39.000 We'll continue with Patricia Springmeyer and we'll also take your calls.

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01:32:12.000 We're talking to Patricia Springmeyer, wife of Fritz Springmeyer, the political prisoner, the author, the researcher, the lecturer.

01:32:20.000 By the way, we carry his book, Bloodlines, the Illuminati, right there on Infowars.com.

01:32:29.000 And it's an encyclopedic book and really lets you know who we're dealing with.

01:32:33.000 Patricia, give us kind of the reader's digest of then what happened with the bank robbery charges that came later.

01:32:40.000 And when I talked about troublemakers swarming around, you know, these supposed friends that started coming around.

01:32:45.000 You know, I've dealt with this.

01:32:46.000 People will come up to you and, hey, let's... ever thought about doing something violent?

01:32:52.000 And then I quietly memorize their license plate number and find out it's a cop or an FBI informant.

01:32:58.000 You know, that's why I'm publicly non-violent and want to wake people up, and I know they try to provocateur this stuff all the time.

01:33:06.000 I mean, I've been at protests before when they're in the crowd trying to start fights.

01:33:09.000 This is really criminal, and they've been caught doing it.

01:33:12.000 But, you know, give us the Reader's Digest summation of then what happened.

01:33:18.000 Well, one year later, they came back and arrested Fritz for a bank robbery that had taken place in 1997.

01:33:29.000 They had a witness who was facing about 120 years of prison sentence for weapons violations and a pot grow and all this stuff, okay?

01:33:45.000 And so he had, after his arrest and questioning, they let him, and his name is Tony Huntington, they let him out on his own recognizance And he had five months to go around and get a story together.

01:34:02.000 Now, they told him, if you have any information about anybody else having committed crimes or this or that, we'll go easy on you.

01:34:11.000 And they said, so you think about that, because we are going to be looking at you, buddy, and we're going to be going around to every friend and questioning all your friends and stuff.

01:34:22.000 This is the classic M.O.

01:34:23.000 for an informant.

01:34:24.000 They got somebody they got dirt on and then you work for us, buddy.

01:34:28.000 Right.

01:34:29.000 And when he saw that they weren't kidding, five months later he called them back up and said, could you please come interview me again?

01:34:37.000 And they did and he said, and they had mentioned Fritz's name on the first interview.

01:34:41.000 Do you know anything about Fritz Springmeier?

01:34:43.000 Do you know if he's committed any crimes?

01:34:45.000 So, he called them back over for the interview and he said, yes, Fritz Springmeier committed this bank robbery that I had helped plan with Forrest Bateman back in 1997.

01:34:58.000 By the way, this story she's talking about is in the mainstream newspapers.

01:35:03.000 They just come right out with all this stuff and so years later they come and how do they grab Fritz?

01:35:09.000 Just based on Tony's word, they came and arrested him at the house.

01:35:13.000 We were surprised.

01:35:14.000 It was one year later.

01:35:16.000 Almost exactly.

01:35:17.000 And it was five months to statute of limitations on this bank robbery, which is five years is the statute of limitations.

01:35:24.000 So you're wondering how fair can a trial be?

01:35:28.000 How will people be able to remember anything?

01:35:30.000 And Tony Huntington ended up perjuring himself on the stand because he found out that You know, because our attorney bluffed him.

01:35:41.000 He admitted that he actually took a role in the robbery on the day of the robbery.

01:35:45.000 And that's something that he never told the investigators.

01:35:48.000 So they were looking for a second robber because Forrest Bateman had admitted guilt already.

01:35:55.000 But he never implicated Fritz in it.

01:35:58.000 But, here's Tony Huntington sitting on the stand, and he admits that he actually, he not only planned it the night before, but he actually took a role in it.

01:36:07.000 So you have one of the two admitting he did it, and now the second one admitting it, but they go, oh that's fine, it's Fritz.

01:36:13.000 Oh yeah, and they stopped the courtroom on Defenses Day, all kinds of law enforcement came in and sat on the spectator side, but on the jury side.

01:36:25.000 And I was sitting on Fritz's side because I wanted to be near Fritz.

01:36:29.000 And I didn't really realize, I thought, gosh, you know, they have a long lunch hour, you know, who gave them the time off and all this stuff.

01:36:38.000 And I mentioned that to an attorney and he said, that's stalking the courtroom with law enforcement.

01:36:43.000 I mean, I'm telling you, there are about 12 And a lot of them in uniform throughout the day, about I'd say 12 to 15.

01:36:51.000 And I was told that our defense attorney should have mentioned it, should have raised an objection to the judge and said, Your Honor, what are all these law enforcement people doing here?

01:37:03.000 Who gave them the time off?

01:37:05.000 And say something for the record.

01:37:08.000 As it was, the attorney only put one objection.

01:37:11.000 But what happened when this guy on the stand, how did he admit that he'd been involved?

01:37:15.000 And they didn't clap him in irons right then?

01:37:17.000 They didn't, no.

01:37:19.000 He hasn't been charged with bank robbery.

01:37:23.000 It's an amazing system.

01:37:24.000 And I did see that in one of the newspapers when I was researching this months ago, where it said that he admitted he'd quote, been involved somehow.

01:37:32.000 And then this comes out later, but oh, we're going to leave you alone.

01:37:36.000 Exactly.

01:37:36.000 That was the exchange that was made.

01:37:39.000 That was the deal that was struck.

01:37:43.000 It's pretty amazing.

01:37:44.000 Now, Fritz had been involved in exposing some local officials in this globalist involvement.

01:37:52.000 Yeah.

01:37:53.000 In fact, you'll find a lot in his books that is local on Oregon and stuff.

01:38:01.000 He is not afraid to name names.

01:38:05.000 It's... I think that's what really has gotten him in trouble.

01:38:08.000 I mean, he does not... Well, Patricia, I don't know if I believe you.

01:38:11.000 I mean, we have the Houston Crime Lab admittedly framing thousands, the Houston Crime Lab admittedly framing thousands, 56 black farmers, no criminal records, all framed, not one piece of evidence, 20 to life in prison, later admitted it's totally fake.

01:38:24.000 We have the FBI admittedly running murders and framing people en masse and running organized crime, being the head of the mafia in Boston.

01:38:30.000 I mean, I don't, you know, I don't think the government would be capable of lying to get somebody.

01:38:35.000 Yeah, I know.

01:38:36.000 It's enough to make me... If Fritz were out, I think we'd probably be expatriates living on a safer shore.

01:38:44.000 You know, it's funny you'd say that.

01:38:45.000 I mean, I just have this instinct to get out of here.

01:38:51.000 But I've got to stay and fight, but I'm tempted to get my family out of the country, because why should they have to put up with this?

01:38:56.000 But you know, it's a new world order, Patricia.

01:38:58.000 There's nowhere to run.

01:38:59.000 This global darkness is settling everywhere.

01:39:02.000 I think the answer is fighting and being bold.

01:39:04.000 More of us doing it, and there's so many of us now standing up.

01:39:07.000 We're going to have a problem getting everybody, but I've noticed that people that really get into exposing the Illuminati itself, and name names of high-level government people, that really gets them angry.

01:39:20.000 So, how has Rich's stay in prison been?

01:39:22.000 Well, he is very spiritually strong.

01:39:26.000 He's using it as an opportunity to... Oh, I saw that in the newspaper.

01:39:32.000 Didn't he thank the judge or something?

01:39:36.000 Yes, basically.

01:39:37.000 I'm going from memory because he says this is like Paul or somebody in prison.

01:39:41.000 Tell us the story.

01:39:45.000 He said, oh boy, I wish I had the exact quote.

01:39:49.000 But he basically said he was going to turn it into an opportunity to work for the Lord.

01:39:56.000 And I'll look that up for you, what he said.

01:39:59.000 I saw that in the newspaper.

01:40:00.000 That takes great peace.

01:40:01.000 He went and said, thank you to the judge, thank you to the jury, and basically I forgive you, and thank you, this is what God wants.

01:40:08.000 I believe that was basically what he said, I remember that.

01:40:11.000 And that's his attitude, and he's been helping out with Bible studies and organizing the inmates to come to Bible studies.

01:40:21.000 He gives some of the Bible studies in prison.

01:40:24.000 Right now, he's teaching an inmate German.

01:40:27.000 He's currently working for the prison, helping people get their GEDs.

01:40:35.000 That's his job in prison right now.

01:40:38.000 He had a job with Unicor for a while, QA, Quality Assuring Circuit Boards, and found it just to be Totally unsatisfying and decided to go back to working directly for the prison to give people the GEDs.

01:40:55.000 Over time, over the time he's been in prison, I've heard he's actually had an effect on the guards and others.

01:41:03.000 Yeah, there was one point out at Sheridan where one of the guards was asking about Bloodline's book and asked how he could purchase the copy.

01:41:15.000 So by his example, I mean you've got to meet Fritz Springmeier.

01:41:17.000 He just radiates this peace, a nice guy, really intelligent.

01:41:22.000 I mean you can tell he's a good guy.

01:41:24.000 And then to see this happen to him, it's just... But you know, Founding Fathers went through stuff like this.

01:41:32.000 Our soldiers in Vietnam went through stuff like this.

01:41:34.000 I mean this is just what happens to people.

01:41:37.000 And there's a lot of persecution, but would you say Fritz has become stronger through this?

01:41:41.000 Definitely, he has.

01:41:44.000 My family, it's funny you talk about the guys in Vietnam and what not because my family just tells me to look at it like he's been sent overseas.

01:41:56.000 There are a lot of military wives out there and their spouses, military husbands, their spouses are overseas and you just have to wait it out.

01:42:06.000 Well no doubt French is now a prisoner of war.

01:42:10.000 That's a good way to put it.

01:42:12.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

01:42:13.000 We're about to go to some calls.

01:42:15.000 Loaded phone lines here for you, Patricia Springmeyer, wife of Fritz Springmeyer, political prisoner.

01:42:20.000 How do folks... You've got quite a few books you're offering.

01:42:23.000 I just carry one of them, the latest edition of Bloodlines, before he went into prison.

01:42:28.000 But you've got some other books.

01:42:30.000 How do people get those?

01:42:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:42:32.000 Well, you can order direct from me.

01:42:34.000 Shall I give the address?

01:42:36.000 Yeah, do that.

01:42:37.000 Okay.

01:42:39.000 700 North Colorado Boulevard.

01:42:42.000 Number 126, Denver, Colorado, 80206.

01:42:50.000 And the mind control book, The Illuminati Formula, used to create an undetectable total mind control slave.

01:42:58.000 I could just call it the Illuminati Formula book for short.

01:43:02.000 I'm selling that for $50 and that's 515 pages.

01:43:08.000 These look just like encyclopedia books.

01:43:11.000 Big, dark brown, black, hardbound books.

01:43:14.000 No, actually, not to refute you, these are... So then I've got an older copy?

01:43:18.000 Because I've got a hardbound copy of that.

01:43:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:43:23.000 You have an older, one of the first... That was the first edition, as a matter of fact.

01:43:27.000 What Fritz decided to do is to combine these books so that they could lay open flat, so that therapists could use them as workbooks and whatnot.

01:43:37.000 So, they're paper-bound.

01:43:41.000 With a clear plastic cover and then a coil comb binding, rather.

01:43:46.000 Okay, and then there's the sequel to that is Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula.

01:43:50.000 And that book gives a lot of solutions to the problem.

01:43:56.000 Both these books, by the way, were co-authored by Cisco Wheeler.

01:43:59.000 In the Deeper Insights book, the second part of it is how to break free of the control And Cisco gives a lot of information on how to go about that.

01:44:11.000 You've also got bloodlines.

01:44:12.000 How much is that?

01:44:14.000 Well, you have the bloodlines of the Illuminati book.

01:44:17.000 Folks can get it from you.

01:44:18.000 What's the address again?

01:44:19.000 What's the address again?

01:44:20.000 Oh, 700 North Colorado Boulevard, number 126, Denver, Colorado, 80206.

01:44:30.000 And we'll give that out again in a few minutes.

01:44:32.000 Let's go to some calls, Patricia.

01:44:33.000 Okay.

01:44:34.000 Fred in Pennsylvania, thanks for holding her on the air.

01:44:36.000 Go ahead.

01:44:38.000 Patricia, I wanted to thank you for coming on, and I wanted to ask what kind of hypnosis is involved with, let's say, the various subjects, and can it be done You know, not necessarily in a small location, but maybe from a distance.

01:45:00.000 Well, let me throw this out.

01:45:01.000 I mean, you've got mass mind control conditioning they use on all of us, but we're talking about drugging, torture.

01:45:07.000 That's how you get these type of minds.

01:45:09.000 Patricia, is that accurate?

01:45:11.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:45:14.000 What these books deal with is the more specific one-on-one Programming a person.

01:45:21.000 And by the way, Copper Green just got declassified to Vietnam Error Torture.

01:45:25.000 It's almost the exact stuff in these books.

01:45:28.000 So we have official government documents on that.

01:45:30.000 They do the similar things.

01:45:32.000 What about the use of sleep deprivation also?

01:45:39.000 Oh yes, that's used.

01:45:42.000 Their ideal victim is to get the person at three years old.

01:45:47.000 And they use everything.

01:45:49.000 They use electronics, drugs, hypnosis, sleep deprivation, anything that can just break the person down, shatter their personality into thousands of parts, which are alters.

01:46:04.000 And then they program the alters to perform different functions.

01:46:09.000 Some alters know about other alters.

01:46:12.000 and the system and some alters have no idea.

01:46:15.000 By the way, I know a very successful businessman, we're talking worth 100 million bucks at least, who in the late 60s in Houston, Texas, was part of a magnet program and then was taken into a NASA program and they didn't do the torture, but they did do drugs, hypnosis, computers.

01:46:33.000 I mean, this is a massive program.

01:46:36.000 Well, I just wanted to say, isn't there a core of doctors that the Army has that is impossible to get at?

01:46:48.000 You can't do them, you can't use any kind of... Let me give folks documentation.

01:46:54.000 The founding of the American Psychological Association, the founder, Dr. Ewing Cameron of Canada, admittedly tortured over 2,000 people, mainly women.

01:47:04.000 They found women were better. 0.99

01:47:05.000 Men you can break even quicker, but then they usually go insane and aren't Aren't, you know, active and then break down usually.

01:47:12.000 And he admittedly, a family would come and they'd have a CIA psychologist or psychiatrist in New York.

01:47:18.000 They'd say, fly them up here for help.

01:47:20.000 And they'd have them for six months.

01:47:21.000 And LSD, PCP, electroshock, audio, 24 hours a day.

01:47:26.000 All of this.

01:47:26.000 And this is even History Channel.

01:47:28.000 They would create total mind control slaves that will do whatever they're told.

01:47:32.000 And this is admitted.

01:47:32.000 Thousands of women.

01:47:33.000 You want to comment on that, Patricia?

01:47:36.000 Oh yes, as a matter of fact, and here's some good news finally on the issue of mind control.

01:47:43.000 Fritz told me last week that Dr. Ewan Cameron, aka Dr. White, who's out of Canada, recently lost a lawsuit by several mind control victims.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, now he's dead too.

01:47:59.000 Oh boy, well apparently they're going to collect damages and I don't know where from.

01:48:03.000 Oh man, I watched a History Channel piece where they just admitted it and the government admitted it and they grabbed little kids, families would bring their children and then they'd sign over rights and boom, their kid was gone.

01:48:14.000 That is sad, but I do hear that this is the first victory of this type and what it means is that other lawsuits are to follow against all these people.

01:48:24.000 I just wanted to say that the change in the Cold War status hasn't meant a darn thing to the volume of the program, to the spending.

01:48:38.000 I know for a fact that MKUltra skyrocketed in cost during the mid-fifties, the early fifties, when it was started.

01:48:46.000 This is all admitted stuff.

01:48:48.000 Thanks for the call, Fred.

01:48:50.000 Let's talk to Mike in California.

01:48:51.000 Mike, go ahead.

01:48:55.000 Mike, you there?

01:48:56.000 Alex?

01:48:57.000 Yes.

01:48:58.000 Oh, this is off the topic, sir.

01:49:00.000 I'm sorry about this.

01:49:00.000 Go ahead, just go ahead.

01:49:02.000 I called you on Friday about the school system.

01:49:04.000 I don't know if you remember me, but... Yeah, you're there in the schools waking people up, you know.

01:49:09.000 Yeah, and well, they suspended me yesterday, Alex, for saying a supposedly profanity word.

01:49:16.000 I'm wondering if it's legal.

01:49:18.000 I have two things for you.

01:49:19.000 This is one of them.

01:49:20.000 I'm going to do it real quick.

01:49:21.000 I'm wondering if this is legal.

01:49:22.000 If I refuse to sign my referral, a behavior contract, and a Grosvenor High School expulsion certificate or whatever, can they technically hold it against me if I didn't sign it, if I don't have my signature on it?

01:49:34.000 No, they can't make you sign documents, at least in a free country.

01:49:36.000 Of course, they probably will.

01:49:38.000 Stay there.

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01:52:48.000 Well, it's your chance to talk to Patricia Springmeier.

01:53:01.000 We're going to keep her about 20 minutes to the next hour, then I'm going to get into a bunch of other news.

01:53:07.000 Scott and J.R.

01:53:08.000 and Roman and John and others, your calls are coming up.

01:53:11.000 The young man that called earlier, I talked to him during the break, he was saying they treat him like Nazi's minions or something in the school of the police, and they considered that very evil, and so he's suspended.

01:53:23.000 And now they want to have him sign one of these deferred unification contracts.

01:53:26.000 They do that here in Austin.

01:53:28.000 I haven't seen his contract in California, but I'm familiar with it around the country.

01:53:31.000 And then you waive your rights to go on real probation if you do anything wrong in the next semester.

01:53:38.000 And there's no reason to sign that or go along with that, but you do whatever you feel is proper.

01:53:44.000 So that's a side issue there.

01:53:46.000 Before we go back to Patricia Springmeyer and her calls, I've made 11 films.

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01:54:35.000 That's 888-253-3139 Or just write to me I'm Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100 Austin, Texas 78704 And Bloodlines Illuminati is $25 And it's about, I don't know, $600 Good.

01:54:53.000 Good to talk to you.

01:54:54.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:54:55.000 You can also get it directly from Mrs. Springmeyer.

01:54:59.000 We'll give that address out again later in the next hour.

01:55:02.000 Let's go ahead now and go to Scott in Texas.

01:55:07.000 Scott, you're on the air.

01:55:08.000 Welcome.

01:55:09.000 Alex, how are you doing?

01:55:10.000 Good to talk to you.

01:55:11.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:55:12.000 I first heard about you on Coast to Coast and a great interview there.

01:55:19.000 I had been praying for you before because I was on the internet checking you out.

01:55:25.000 And I'd realized, praying for your protection, I'd realized that God had been protecting you already.

01:55:30.000 You're not kidding when you say that.

01:55:32.000 You know, Bush said it, and I like to steal what he said, I can feel the prayers.

01:55:36.000 Really?

01:55:37.000 Yeah.

01:55:38.000 And so now, every day, I pray that God would send His angels to protect you, because I feel like this is a calling for you.

01:55:45.000 And it's good for us because you keep us informed and everything and so we really appreciate it.

01:55:51.000 Well, thank you.

01:55:51.000 Do you have any comments for our guest?

01:55:53.000 Yeah, I've got two quick comments.

01:55:56.000 Interesting that you have Patricia on today because that's what I was going to talk to you about was brainwashing. 1.00

01:56:02.000 Two things on that.

01:56:04.000 One is the mass brainwashing going on that has been extended from the people that put Hitler into power that they were experimenting with. 0.50

01:56:12.000 I mean, here's an example of this.

01:56:14.000 The TV is flashing at a certain rate.

01:56:16.000 I mean, UT Psychology Department is testing new patterns for the TV to control you.

01:56:20.000 They admit it.

01:56:21.000 I've been there and seen it.

01:56:22.000 None of this is hidden.

01:56:23.000 Then they also have us disassociate with all the signs, all the stimulation shifting your left, right brain.

01:56:29.000 Patricia, you want to comment on that?

01:56:31.000 It's pretty amazing.

01:56:35.000 Boy, it's hard to get away from the influences.

01:56:42.000 If I could live out in the country, I would.

01:56:44.000 Now I'm living in the city, so you just have to be strong spiritually, pray to God, just to give you salvation every day.

01:56:56.000 I had a quick question for Patricia.

01:56:58.000 Sure.

01:56:58.000 Alex, if I may.

01:57:00.000 Do have.

01:57:00.000 Patricia, isn't the object of brainwashing dislodging one's personality and then separating them from previously held ideals and then inserting maybe, you know, a new alternate personality?

01:57:14.000 Is that the goal?

01:57:15.000 Yeah, and more than one personality.

01:57:18.000 They can actually split the brain into Hundreds of different personalities in one person.

01:57:25.000 Yeah.

01:57:26.000 And each personality will have a different function and even opposing functions to the other alters in the system.

01:57:34.000 Alright.

01:57:35.000 Thanks for the call, Scott.

01:57:36.000 Good points.

01:57:37.000 JR, Roman, John, others, your calls are straight ahead.

01:57:40.000 Ed, stay with us.

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01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Alright, my friends.

01:58:07.000 November 10th, 2004.

01:58:09.000 Already 30 seconds into this third hour.

01:58:15.000 We're talking to Patricia Springmeyer, wife of the author and researcher and lecturer, Fritz Springmeyer, who is a political prisoner.

01:58:22.000 He had been raided before, looking for marijuana.

01:58:26.000 No marijuana found.

01:58:27.000 Then they framed him for a bank robbery.

01:58:29.000 He clearly didn't commit.

01:58:30.000 Even local newspapers had to say, this is very questionable.

01:58:34.000 And we're talking about mind control now and taking your calls.

01:58:37.000 And I'm going to get into the battle for Fallujah with the troops having 70% of the country.

01:58:41.000 The Prime Minister is now claiming he's had members of his family kidnapped by Iraqi insurgents.

01:58:48.000 And also, we'll get into the London Observer revealed secret plan to push Happy Pills and how that merges in with Vioxx and how they covered up Dudley.

01:58:57.000 That is just a ton of key news coming up.

01:58:59.000 But continuing with Patricia Springmeier, Patricia, let's go to JR in Texas.

01:59:04.000 JR, you're on the air with our guest.

01:59:06.000 Go ahead.

01:59:07.000 Hello, Alex.

01:59:08.000 Hello, sir.

01:59:08.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:59:10.000 And God bless you, Patricia, and your husband.

01:59:13.000 Thank you so much.

01:59:13.000 For all his human spirit.

01:59:15.000 Thank you.

01:59:16.000 You're welcome, ma'am.

01:59:17.000 And Alex, this is a little bit off subject, but I wanted to make a request to have a certain guest on your show.

01:59:25.000 Sure.

01:59:25.000 If possible.

01:59:26.000 Mr. William Rodriguez, who is the key master of the World Trade Center North Tower.

01:59:33.000 He was one of the heroes of that day that rescued hundreds of people's lives.

01:59:38.000 And he is now suing the Bush regime, and he's being represented by Philip Berg.

01:59:45.000 So if you could get a hold of Willie Rodriguez, that'd be awesome for your show.

01:59:50.000 And by the way, Mr. Rodriguez, I've seen it in the New York newspapers, is saying the government is basically behind it.

01:59:56.000 We've got firefighters and police saying they got the black boxes out of the planes and then they're lying about it.

02:00:02.000 Clearly an inside job and I do want to get Mr. Rodriguez and others on.

02:00:06.000 And there's this other guy too, I don't know if you know him or know about him.

02:00:10.000 His name is Frank Trudeau.

02:00:12.000 He's a medical investigator and he's got books out and stuff.

02:00:17.000 And he's always investigating the FDA.

02:00:20.000 Yeah, we're about to come after vitamins again.

02:00:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:00:23.000 So it'd be great if you could get that guy on the show.

02:00:26.000 Okay, I'll try to do that.

02:00:27.000 Anything else?

02:00:28.000 No, I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work, Alex.

02:00:31.000 And you and your show always keep getting better every day.

02:00:34.000 And people are waking up all over the place.

02:00:37.000 And people are starved for the truth.

02:00:39.000 That's what I've seen down here.

02:00:41.000 Well, thank you for the call.

02:00:42.000 I appreciate that, JR.

02:00:44.000 Let me just say this here, because this is very important.

02:00:51.000 And I want to see if Patricia agrees with me.

02:00:53.000 Five years ago, half the people didn't believe what we were saying.

02:00:56.000 Now, almost everybody, 90 plus percent do.

02:00:58.000 So the awakening is taking place, but people aren't taking action with that information.

02:01:04.000 What type of... I mean, I do see a wake-up happening.

02:01:07.000 That's why I see the globalists accelerating things.

02:01:09.000 Patricia, comments?

02:01:11.000 Well, it's hard to know exactly what to do.

02:01:16.000 I would say the exposure of of mind control and helping people come out of the mind control safely is probably one of the biggest weapons that they use against us that we can defuse.

02:01:33.000 I really think it's their top secret weapon.

02:01:36.000 Well that's why they're so angry.

02:01:38.000 That's why they kept trying to frame Fritz and finally did is because he was exposing their operation.

02:01:43.000 Well, and the critical thing for them to do is to change society from within, not to attack us head on, which would create an open revolution, which is what they don't want.

02:01:58.000 And apart from that, I just think we've got to stay spiritually strong through all of this.

02:02:06.000 And as far as any other answers or solutions, I'm at a loss.

02:02:14.000 I must say.

02:02:17.000 It's kind of a frightening time to live in right now.

02:02:22.000 And we just have to get through it.

02:02:25.000 Absolutely.

02:02:26.000 I mean, life always has its challenges, every generation.

02:02:29.000 Their New World Order slave state is being built right in front of us, and they need us to be active participants in it to feel powerless. 0.88

02:02:36.000 And that's a fraud.

02:02:37.000 We can't affect change.

02:02:38.000 Patricia, stay there. 1.00

02:02:38.000 We'll come back and take more calls and cover more news. 1.00

02:02:42.000 So stay with us.

02:02:45.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

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02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:57.000 You know, last hour we talked about how it's even on the History Channel as news That Dr. Ewing Cameron, the founder of the American Psychological Association, the same group out saying five years ago that pedophilia is actually a good thing and should be legalized and isn't a mental illness.

02:06:14.000 The same group And the same head was the head of a major CIA operation where they would adopt thousands of children and erase their brains with electroshock, PCP, LSD, other drugs, and then they'd hook them up with computer goggles, they'd put earpieces on them for months on end, putting recordings in with keyword triggers.

02:06:34.000 This is real stuff!

02:06:35.000 And Dr. Julian West, who also just died, Dr. Julian West, he came out in the 1977 MKUltra hearings as one of the program heads.

02:06:51.000 And then nobody paid attention when he was, quote, McVeigh's doctor who stayed with him from the time of arrest to when he was in Denver for the trial to when he was in Terre Haute, Indiana, right up to the day he was killed.

02:07:01.000 I mean, how much more obvious does this have to get for people?

02:07:06.000 And then, of course, McVeigh was found in a big white car with no license plate stumbling around vomiting.

02:07:12.000 The state police sent us the newspaper saying, I got the chip.

02:07:15.000 I got the chip.

02:07:16.000 Oh, it's in me.

02:07:16.000 Oh.

02:07:17.000 And again, it's easy.

02:07:18.000 They cell phone call the guy, say the trigger word, and psychologically it's connected somehow to the chip.

02:07:22.000 You know, that's the trigger word. 0.89

02:07:25.000 And then, you know, people said, oh, he's just crazy.

02:07:27.000 Yeah, he carries out these bombings that hardly anybody else could do because the stuff's so unstable.

02:07:33.000 Fuel oil, most people say it wouldn't make it to the facility to blow up.

02:07:37.000 And then there's all these Arabs with him, but the government grabs the security camera tapes and says national security.

02:07:42.000 And then he's surrounded by all these FBI informants and agents at different areas around the country.

02:07:47.000 I mean, just throwing that out there, any comments, Patricia?

02:07:51.000 Oh boy, Jolly West.

02:07:55.000 I think he had something to do with Sirhan Sirhan, who assassinated Robert Kennedy in L.A.

02:08:05.000 Boy, and he had some input into the McMartin case, the McMartin preschool trial.

02:08:12.000 After a lot of things were starting to come out about him, he's hired on by UCLA as a professor.

02:08:21.000 You know, after a lot of things were exposed, and that was really shocking.

02:08:25.000 But I guess they have to carry on the legacy.

02:08:28.000 And then openly the feds have him as a psychiatrist for McVeigh.

02:08:34.000 I can believe it.

02:08:36.000 People are, I guess, are just too burdened and kept busy to follow all of this.

02:08:43.000 But it's right out in the open.

02:08:45.000 They don't even hide this stuff.

02:08:47.000 It's an insult to our intelligence.

02:08:50.000 It really is, Patricia.

02:08:51.000 Let's talk to Mike, then we'll talk to Roman and John and DJ and Chris.

02:08:55.000 Mike in Arizona, welcome.

02:08:57.000 Yeah, thank you, Alex.

02:08:59.000 Sorry to hear about your travails, Ms.

02:09:01.000 Springmeyer.

02:09:03.000 Was there anything in particular that Fritz was working on when he started having these problems?

02:09:09.000 Yeah, as a matter of fact, he was trying to finish up this current edition of Bloodlines.

02:09:15.000 of the Illuminaudia, I neglected to say that one of the things that they took was his working copy that had the red marks of -- and he was doing the index -- the red marks in the index and whatnot from the proofreader.

02:09:30.000 And so that set the project back at least six months.

02:09:35.000 Is there still a copy available that might be available to us?

02:09:40.000 Bloodlines of the Illuminati is... No, it's gone out!

02:09:40.000 Oh, sure.

02:09:43.000 It's gone out!

02:09:44.000 I sell it!

02:09:45.000 Yeah, we finally managed to put it out.

02:09:48.000 Is this the updated version you're talking about?

02:09:50.000 Yes, this is the current version and it is updated.

02:09:53.000 It's the third edition.

02:09:55.000 Tell me, this fellow who implicated your husband, did he know Fritz previously?

02:10:03.000 Yes, they were acquainted.

02:10:05.000 What had happened is... That's what I was saying about these people fluttering around, you know, they show up and make contact with you.

02:10:11.000 Yeah, as a matter of fact, his roommate, not really roommate, but housemate, Forrest Bateman is his actual name, a.k.a.

02:10:22.000 Tim, okay, had looked up Fritz years prior when Fritz was staying at Cisco Wheeler's house, okay?

02:10:32.000 And he knocked on the door and said, you know, Fritz Springmeier, love to come in, I've read your book, Bloodlines, there's so much in there that's true, and so they got to talking.

02:10:42.000 And then he mentioned, in Bloodlines, Fritz makes no secret that he's a Christian.

02:10:49.000 And he said, so you've ministered, you know, you've done street ministry and things like this?

02:10:55.000 He goes, oh yes, I've ministered to ex-Jehovah's Witnesses, helping them come out from Jehovah's Witnesses, which It is cultish. 1.00

02:11:03.000 It does things like shun the people that disagree, and it gets pretty ugly.

02:11:08.000 So he belonged to Witness Incorporated, which would help people come out of the abuse of Jehovah's Witnesses. 0.61

02:11:14.000 And so Tim found that very interesting.

02:11:16.000 He says, well gosh, why don't you come by our place and give us a Bible study?

02:11:24.000 And so that's what Fritz did.

02:11:25.000 He had gone over to their place, Yeah, that's how this works.

02:11:30.000 These informants invite you somewhere and then all they talk about is the bad things they want to do and then down the line that person then goes out and perjures against you.

02:11:39.000 Yeah, well he ended up baptizing one of their wives and come to find out she had been a getaway driver for several of their robberies.

02:11:50.000 These people had committed several bank robberies.

02:11:53.000 There was another witness against Fritz who had committed seven bank robberies and the FBI said, okay, tell us, and they said, we'll go easier on it if you admit.

02:12:07.000 And he says, statute of limitation on bank robberies, five years.

02:12:10.000 And the guy says, you sure?

02:12:12.000 Can I have that in writing?

02:12:13.000 And they said, yes.

02:12:14.000 And they gave it to him in writing.

02:12:16.000 So he did in chronological order.

02:12:18.000 And again, for those that just joined us, this is after raids on your house looking for marijuana and then arresting you and taking money, no marijuana found, just all these ways to get you in the system.

02:12:27.000 Mike, thanks for the call.

02:12:28.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:12:29.000 You bet.

02:12:30.000 Roman in Colorado, you're on the air.

02:12:33.000 Go ahead.

02:12:34.000 Hello to both of you.

02:12:35.000 Hi.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, I had a question.

02:12:38.000 I read Mrs. Bloodline's book, and I was wondering, maybe both of you could answer my question.

02:12:44.000 In the book, he Briefly mentioned that Denver is an important New World Order city.

02:12:50.000 I was wondering if maybe you could both elaborate on that.

02:12:55.000 Well, it certainly is.

02:12:56.000 Look at your international airport.

02:12:58.000 You've got the military base there in North Com very nearby.

02:13:03.000 Look at the artwork in the airport.

02:13:05.000 Look at all the elitists that live there.

02:13:07.000 They kind of have their own little bohemian grove outside Denver.

02:13:10.000 You want to comment on that, Patricia?

02:13:11.000 Yeah, NORAD, which is this whole thing, you know, inside the mountain in Colorado Springs.

02:13:21.000 And NORAD was the one that Kind of didn't do the job on 9-11.

02:13:28.000 They laid down on the job there.

02:13:30.000 And like you say, the DIA is a pretty spooky place.

02:13:34.000 And they have some very strange murals that you're probably aware of.

02:13:38.000 It's inland, and so they probably figure that it's a safer place to be.

02:13:45.000 Well, they probably say that that is the new capital if D.C.

02:13:49.000 ever gets moved.

02:13:50.000 Yeah.

02:13:52.000 I heard it was either Denver or Atlanta.

02:13:54.000 Where can we get this information?

02:13:56.000 No, no, no.

02:13:56.000 The new capital for the Pan-American Union or the Union of American States is going to be Atlanta.

02:14:02.000 Oh, okay.

02:14:03.000 So how about the U.S.

02:14:04.000 capital?

02:14:05.000 Oh, interesting.

02:14:07.000 And when I was back here before, prior to Y2K, they used Y2K as an excuse to build underground government bunkers.

02:14:18.000 I read Chris's book on Mind Control Sways and Bloodlines.

02:14:21.000 A lot of places around the country did this, but in Denver, Y2K was used as the excuse.

02:14:25.000 Yeah, and building the command bunker at Building 7 to carry out 9/11.

02:14:30.000 Command bunkers here in Austin.

02:14:32.000 Command bunkers everywhere.

02:14:33.000 Thanks for the call, Roman.

02:14:35.000 John in Tennessee.

02:14:36.000 John, you're on the air.

02:14:37.000 Go ahead.

02:14:37.000 Hello.

02:14:38.000 I read Prince's book on Mind Control Sways and Bloodlines.

02:14:42.000 Excellent book.

02:14:44.000 Bloodlines reported that Robert F. Kennedy Sr.

02:14:47.000 was a visitor to Bohemian Grove, I believe, a couple years ago.

02:14:52.000 I gave a copy of Alex's video on Bohemian Grove to Professor Robert Kennedy Jr.

02:14:57.000 when he was speaking at University of Tennessee in Knoxville.

02:15:01.000 When I handed him the videotape, I could tell he knew what Bohemian Grove was, but in sort of a sad way.

02:15:08.000 And he did not hesitate to accept my gift.

02:15:10.000 So I'm sure it was a shock when he actually watched satanic ritual on videotape, which is a mind control method, I guess, to keep the elite in line like a Masonic death threat.

02:15:22.000 So Fritz and Alex have exposed these death cults, and that's very dangerous to these people who threaten to kill their own members if they reveal what's going on.

02:15:30.000 I know I've stuck my head in the tiger's mouth, but that's just the way it is.

02:15:36.000 Well, I hope Fritz doesn't just turn the other cheek and not sue these people for false Right now, we're not being successful right now.

02:15:44.000 We lost the first appeal.

02:15:46.000 because if he doesn't they're just going to be bolder the next time and try to stalk him again when he gets out.

02:15:54.000 We're going to do the best that we can.

02:15:58.000 Right now we're not being so successful right now.

02:16:02.000 We lost the first appeal.

02:16:03.000 Our attorney for some reason didn't want to do the second appeal to the Ninth Circuit and feels that we can go to the Supreme Court with a procedural error and a denial of Fritz's rights.

02:16:18.000 However, the Supreme Court... The Supreme Court throws out 98% and doesn't even look at him.

02:16:22.000 I know.

02:16:22.000 So, Fritz and I are just really... I've just learned this within the last couple days.

02:16:29.000 Last night, I just learned from Fritz that the second appeal to the Ninth Circuit, if he didn't file, if the attorney didn't file within two weeks, That's it.

02:16:38.000 We've lost that chance.

02:16:40.000 Alright.

02:16:41.000 John, thanks for the call.

02:16:43.000 Patricia Springmeyer, I want to thank you for coming on.

02:16:46.000 If people want to get any of the books, what, Bloodlines, $25?

02:16:51.000 $25 with $4 for shipping.

02:16:54.000 And then the others are $50.

02:16:56.000 Give your address up, please.

02:16:57.000 Well, the second book, the formula book is $50 with $4 for shipping.

02:17:01.000 And then the deeper insight is $60 with $4 shipping.

02:17:05.000 I can send a brochure, too, if someone would just simply like a brochure.

02:17:09.000 There's also Ezekiel 6-3, which is $16 and $3 shipping, and that's a book that has the... Okay, quickly give people your address.

02:17:18.000 700 North Colorado Boulevard, Suite 126, Denver, Colorado, 80206.

02:17:27.000 Patricia, contact me as things develop.

02:17:29.000 I'd like to have you back on.

02:17:31.000 Thank you so much.

02:17:32.000 You bet.

02:17:33.000 God bless you, and tell Princess I said hi.

02:17:35.000 Alright, talking to the wife of another political prisoner.

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02:22:07.000 Now we're going to go to DJ and William and others coming up, but I wanted to cover this news.

02:22:12.000 This is out of a London Observer.

02:22:14.000 Revealed secret plan to push Happy Pills, Britain's largest drug company, drew up a secret plan to double sales of the controversial antidepressant Serocat, if I'm pronouncing that right, by marketing it as a cure for a raft of less serious mental conditions.

02:22:32.000 The observer can reveal today the contents of a 250-page document have alarmed health campaigners And it continues, who accused the firm, GlaxoSmithKline, of putting profit before the therapeutic needs of patients by attempting to broaden the market for the drug, which has been linked to a spat of suicides.

02:22:57.000 The revelation is likely to prompt further concerns about the role and influence of the pharmacological industry, which has come under severe scrutiny in recent months.

02:23:05.000 The document is now being investigated by a parliamentary inquiry into the drug's industry itself.

02:23:12.000 The internal report carries a section which outlines how SmithKline planned to double sales of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, or SSRIs, the industry term for antidepressants, by winning the marketing war against their chief rival, Prozac, manufactured by Eli Lilly.

02:23:32.000 So we got GlaxoSmithKline, and it continues here.

02:23:38.000 Written in 98 and subsequently updated in following years, the section is entitled, Towards the Second Billion, All SSRIs Are Not the Same, and discusses strategies to see off the threat posed by Prozac.

02:23:52.000 The document outlined of how GlaxoSmithKline intended to market serotonin Uptake inhibitors for a range of conditions other than clinical depression.

02:24:03.000 Chief among these was a condition the company identified as social anxiety disorder.

02:24:07.000 Normal anxiety.

02:24:08.000 Folks, you're supposed to have that.

02:24:10.000 Before I go give a speech, I got that anxiety.

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02:24:13.000 I better take a pill.

02:24:14.000 Although other forms of anxiety were also discussed internally.

02:24:18.000 Then it goes on how to pitch it to the public.

02:24:21.000 Folks, you want to know how they're going to do this?

02:24:23.000 The new Freedom Initiative.

02:24:25.000 By law, every child from elementary to graduation will be psychologically tested by guidelines written by a consortium of ten major drug companies.

02:24:35.000 They wrote the guidelines.

02:24:36.000 They lobbied for it.

02:24:38.000 Terry Bush, they're all for it.

02:24:40.000 Bush is the main one promoting it.

02:24:43.000 And, by the way, it also says in the document, in the law they're trying to pass for it, that you as an adult will be forced to do it as well.

02:24:49.000 And now Illinois is trying to pass a state law to get that federal money.

02:24:52.000 Chicago Tribune is the source on that.

02:24:55.000 A once-a-year test for adults, twice-a-year for children.

02:24:58.000 They're talking about starting in Illinois with mothers who are pregnant and have to do it, or people who are getting different types of jobs.

02:25:05.000 You talk about getting into the system, and it's all about making you take these drugs!

02:25:10.000 They already say, oh, you've got to take the vaccines. 0.97

02:25:12.000 Oh, we say you're mentally ill. 0.99

02:25:13.000 The teacher says you are. 1.00

02:25:14.000 You've got to go on Ritalin.

02:25:16.000 You've got to go on Prozac.

02:25:16.000 You've got to go on all this stuff.

02:25:19.000 So, I mean, when does it end, my friends? .

02:25:27.000 Where does it end?

02:25:28.000 Remember Vioxx?

02:25:30.000 Makes your heart fall apart, linked to massive heart attacks?

02:25:34.000 Turns out, since 99, they knew specifically what it was doing, and they just covered it up!

02:25:39.000 You see, they don't care.

02:25:40.000 Well, how could somebody do something wrong?

02:25:43.000 But the people that own this are the military-industrial complex.

02:25:46.000 They also own the media and are the number one sponsors of TV.

02:25:50.000 Watch your nightly news.

02:25:51.000 Half of it's drug ads.

02:25:52.000 Your magazines, a third of it, at least, is drug ads.

02:25:57.000 Vioxx dangers were evident for years.

02:26:01.000 Four years ago, the headlines.

02:26:02.000 Swiss researchers say Merck's arthritis and painkilling drug, Vioxx, Which can lead to heart attacks, should have been pulled off the market four years ago, and it shows that in early 99 into 2000 they knew what the drug was doing, but covered it up.

02:26:21.000 Folks, they know Ritalin shrinks the brains of children, causes organ toxicity, liver shutdown, retards growth, causes seizures.

02:26:32.000 They've gone from 6 mil to 10 million on it.

02:26:34.000 They don't care! 0.92

02:26:36.000 And now your child goes in, each two candy bars, three cokes on average, bouncing off the walls.

02:26:42.000 They're not allowed to have the cokes or whoever, go give them a paddling.

02:26:45.000 So now they get more out of control.

02:26:46.000 You never disciplined them.

02:26:47.000 So they go, we'll just put your child in the criminal justice system under a judge's order. 1.00

02:26:52.000 Judge's order?

02:26:53.000 They gotta go on Ritalin and Prozac.

02:26:55.000 Then your child's out and peeing, runs too many sprints, has a heart attack, and they just say, well, your child just had a heart attack.

02:27:05.000 It's like Vioxx.

02:27:07.000 It's like all of it.

02:27:10.000 It's so sick.

02:27:12.000 You talk about a brave new world, folks.

02:27:16.000 I know, yuppies, you're gonna deny a new freedom initiative until you're forced to do it, and you'll say, ah, well, I need to do it.

02:27:22.000 You're just afraid.

02:27:23.000 What do you have to hide?

02:27:25.000 Because the psychopaths are the ones that decide who's sane and not.

02:27:28.000 You know, the Soviets used this.

02:27:30.000 Infowars.com is the website.

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02:30:52.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:30:57.000 Alright, let's blitz through some of your calls and we'll get into Bush and Karl Roven now.

02:31:02.000 Total blanket amnesty.

02:31:04.000 And they don't care if 87% of you are against it or if it's wrecking this country.

02:31:08.000 They don't care if you're against the plunging dollar.

02:31:10.000 They don't care if you're against the free trade area of the Americas.

02:31:13.000 They don't care if you're against gun control.

02:31:15.000 They don't care if you're against the UN and UNESCO.

02:31:18.000 They don't care if you're against the war.

02:31:20.000 They just don't care.

02:31:22.000 Because they got the voting machines and they have the candidates rigged in case you somehow circumvented that.

02:31:28.000 With John Kerry running as the dead man they ran against Bush.

02:31:34.000 And by that I mean that figuratively.

02:31:35.000 A stick man would have had more animation and more real issues.

02:31:40.000 A scarecrow would have.

02:31:42.000 No difference in policies.

02:31:43.000 Let's go ahead and talk to DJ in Illinois.

02:31:45.000 DJ, welcome to the Airwaves.

02:31:48.000 Hey, how are you doing?

02:31:50.000 Good.

02:31:50.000 That's good.

02:31:51.000 I'd like to throw out several things here.

02:31:54.000 Number one, many times this comes to mind, most likely daily, most often.

02:32:01.000 I do ask God to bless each and every person who is genuinely speaking the truth and his wisdom.

02:32:10.000 But, and this lady that you had on, and her husband would be among those.

02:32:14.000 There are countless people that we've never heard names of.

02:32:18.000 And if good people weren't standing up against evil, things would be much worse.

02:32:24.000 For as bad as things are, an awakening is taking place, and we've held back a lot of this stuff.

02:32:31.000 Oh, no doubt.

02:32:31.000 That's why they've got to warp the morals and the psyche and the spirits.

02:32:35.000 You know, the globalists trade the souls of men, as Revelation says.

02:32:39.000 They've got to do that before they can have this world system. 0.98

02:32:43.000 Yes.

02:32:45.000 We've run into an awful lot of people and what the one caller said is very true.

02:32:49.000 People are starved for the truth and for places, sources to get the truth to be able to deal with what they know in their gut is wrong.

02:33:00.000 And I have many family and military friends.

02:33:06.000 I've talked with many other soldiers about what's really going on.

02:33:09.000 And one told me, well there are things that various ones told me that will never leave me.

02:33:15.000 He told me, after we talked about all the things that are going on, just keep home going for us.

02:33:23.000 And if those people that hear this and other genuine, truthful broadcasts do not do that, what's your yellow ribbon worth? 0.79

02:33:38.000 I mean, it's so ludicrous.

02:33:40.000 Well, that's a good point. 0.81

02:33:42.000 You know, having a yellow ribbon, does that mean worshipping the government?

02:33:45.000 Not caring about VA benefits being cut?

02:33:48.000 Not caring about troops breathing depleted uranium and being given deadly vaccines?

02:33:53.000 I mean, I really support the troops.

02:33:55.000 I support them enough to try to get them out of this phony war that wasn't designed to be one to begin with.

02:34:00.000 Yes, and there's... Everybody's responsible.

02:34:06.000 Or everyone is responsible.

02:34:07.000 For what we do, with what we know, what we are given to work with.

02:34:14.000 And, like I said, people are just starved.

02:34:17.000 I mean, I run into people almost every single day.

02:34:21.000 In fact, it's an exception when it's not.

02:34:23.000 At least a couple every day who are just... No, I know.

02:34:27.000 We should be positive because people are ripe to have their minds unlocked.

02:34:32.000 Thanks for the call.

02:34:33.000 Hang on a minute, Alex.

02:34:34.000 Yeah, DJ.

02:34:37.000 I have taught my children and the other youth I was helping amongst many other things.

02:34:46.000 There's a proverb.

02:34:47.000 It's in 24, 11, and 12.

02:34:52.000 Can I run that through quickly?

02:34:53.000 Yeah, you might speak up a little bit, but go ahead.

02:34:55.000 Okay.

02:34:55.000 I don't usually talk too loud unless I'm really, really mad.

02:34:58.000 That's okay.

02:34:58.000 Go ahead.

02:34:59.000 Rescue those being led away to death.

02:35:01.000 Hold back those staggering towards slaughter.

02:35:04.000 If you say, but we knew nothing about this.

02:35:07.000 Does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?

02:35:10.000 Does not he who guards your life know it?

02:35:12.000 Will he not repay each person according to what he has done?

02:35:17.000 Well, that's beautiful.

02:35:18.000 I can't say it any better than that.

02:35:20.000 Yeah, email that to me.

02:35:21.000 Thanks for the call.

02:35:22.000 You know, that's what Christ said, basically, about suffering little children, and that means widows, retarded, people who are ill, people who are brain... you know, the weak. 0.99

02:35:33.000 The weak.

02:35:34.000 Suffer the little children. 0.99

02:35:35.000 I mean, better to abuse someone who is in your power, better to throw yourself into the deepest ocean with a big old bulger tied around your neck. 1.00

02:35:44.000 And the globalists just revel in how stupid people are. 1.00

02:35:46.000 They revel in the dumbed-down mass. 1.00

02:35:48.000 They revel in feeding on the weak. 1.00

02:35:51.000 They're disgusting. 0.99

02:35:53.000 And they enrage me, but I don't fight them because I'm enraged against them. 0.99

02:35:57.000 I couldn't continue.

02:35:58.000 That is the fuel that drives me.

02:36:00.000 It's the love of my family, the love of humanity, the love of God, and what's decent and honorable.

02:36:05.000 I love life.

02:36:06.000 I love beauty.

02:36:07.000 I love creativity.

02:36:08.000 I love the dynamic human spirit made in the image of the Creator.

02:36:12.000 We are creators. 1.00

02:36:14.000 We're meant to create a good world through God's will, not to be a bunch of demonic hog pigs, uh, you sniveling, self-serving, lying, larcenous, prideful, uh, garbage heads. 1.00

02:36:29.000 Okay, that's enough. 1.00

02:36:31.000 Let's go ahead and talk to William in Canada.

02:36:33.000 William, go ahead.

02:36:35.000 Good day, Alex.

02:36:35.000 Hello!

02:36:37.000 Yeah, I, um, I wanted to kind of touch on a couple topics from Mr. Bringmeyer.

02:36:43.000 First thing is that back in 1978, before I took another residency, I was offered a residency position in Neurology Ph.D.

02:36:52.000 to do research at the VA Hospital in West Los Angeles.

02:36:58.000 And four of the five projects, I was going to work on the World MS Tissue Repository where they're using brain tissue for MS patients.

02:37:06.000 Four of the projects were CIA, NSA to make cyborgs.

02:37:11.000 And, uh, the projects they were involved with putting, uh, and I turned the project down, obviously.

02:37:17.000 I was just appalled that they actually were doing this.

02:37:18.000 It was brought through the laboratories.

02:37:20.000 But did you have to sign a national security agreement to even see the project?

02:37:25.000 No, believe it or not, they did a security check.

02:37:26.000 Just said, oh, come on right in, and then just walked me right through it.

02:37:30.000 Yo, Aldous Huxley, before he died in 62 at Berkeley, gave a speech about being let into these labs in England.

02:37:36.000 And now they got the robo-rat and the robo-roach. 0.79

02:37:38.000 They had that 20 years ago.

02:37:39.000 Oh, they had these, uh, Believe it or not, my dad is an oral surgeon and dentist, but he's really good at grafting metal and things into bone for jaw surgery.

02:37:53.000 And I guess it was back in the late 80s, they tried to recruit the family to move to Virginia to be part of some secret program.

02:38:01.000 They wouldn't tell him much, but it was cyborg stuff.

02:38:04.000 And yeah, it's massive.

02:38:06.000 These things have been going on for decades.

02:38:08.000 They were actually taking prisoners from West Orange and Irvine.

02:38:11.000 And Dr. Tortelot, who was the head of the neurology program at the time, actually had the machine right there, a stereotactic machine for inserting palladium and platinum electrodes and microchips into their brains for radio control by satellite, back in 78.

02:38:24.000 This is a long time ago.

02:38:29.000 This mind control thing is much, much bigger than people realize.

02:38:32.000 And because I worked in Colorado from 94 to 2004, I've actually seen the National ID chips, both in titanium and Pyrex already.

02:38:41.000 Five years ago.

02:38:44.000 So, are you a doctor?

02:38:45.000 I'm a medical doctor.

02:38:46.000 I worked as a civilian, but with projects in Colorado.

02:38:54.000 It must be a massive program, and they tried to recruit my dad.

02:38:59.000 Oh, Dr. Tortolat's budget back in 78 was personally $23.5 million for just his equipment acquisitions.

02:39:07.000 Just for himself, not for the hospital.

02:39:09.000 Just for his own land.

02:39:10.000 And were they doing this forcibly to the prisoners?

02:39:13.000 The prisoners were getting commuted sentences, a minimum of seven years off.

02:39:16.000 They would submit to having electrodes put in their rage and calming control centers and radio control chips in their occipital, their wet wiring in their occipital cortex to see what they could see and hear what they could see.

02:39:26.000 See what they could see by putting microchips in the back of their eyes, all kinds of weird things.

02:39:33.000 They were actually doing these.

02:39:35.000 This is not imaginary, this is real.

02:39:36.000 Oh no, I mean it's public now in the U.S.

02:39:39.000 and England, and whatever we're being told about is 25 years old.

02:39:43.000 Well, because of what I did work with the various different classified facilities in Colorado, I worked in Operation Top Off in Dark Winter.

02:39:52.000 And we did simulations back in 1998, and we proved that we couldn't identify a bioterrorism release.

02:40:01.000 We did a simulation on 17th Avenue in Denver.

02:40:04.000 No, I remember that.

02:40:06.000 We also did one at the Performing Arts Center where we did a simulation.

02:40:09.000 It wasn't a real one.

02:40:10.000 It was a simulation where we tried to have hazmat officers and EMTs go to the hospitals.

02:40:15.000 And the most disturbing thing was that we basically had a 100% kill rate.

02:40:18.000 We would never have found out in time, so if anybody exposed, they'd just die.

02:40:23.000 Yeah, they did Dark Winter and Top Off in Denver.

02:40:25.000 They also did it in Oklahoma with the state border with Texas simulating, what was it, 5 million dead, and they declared martial law.

02:40:32.000 That was even in the Associated Press.

02:40:34.000 Well, what happened under the upshot of this is after I worked there, a few years later on March 1, 2001, I was actually invited to a private lunch meeting with the FBI and CDC director along with Dr. Jay Reddington from the VA hospital.

02:40:49.000 And there, the FBI Director for Bioterrorism Nationally told me personally, three times repeated after I couldn't believe what I heard him say, that it would be an attack.

02:40:59.000 We were talking about bioterrorism, airplanes going into buildings, suitcase nukes, dirty bombs, all specific scenarios.

02:41:06.000 And he said there will be, 100% certainty, in 24 months, an attack on the Northeast City.

02:41:13.000 And as I asked more questions, he told me New York, and that there would be dead 50 to 500,000.

02:41:18.000 That would precipitate martial law and the implementation of national ID into American system.

02:41:24.000 Oh, William, I just finally clicked on this.

02:41:26.000 I'm pretty slow.

02:41:27.000 My office has been in contact with you.

02:41:28.000 Let me research your info and we'll probably have you on as a guest, okay?

02:41:32.000 I appreciate that.

02:41:33.000 This information needs to get out because they're about to do something really horrendous on the American public and America is in very dire straits right now.

02:41:42.000 No, I know that.

02:41:44.000 Yeah, I really You're a very brave man to put this information out, because these are very terrible times.

02:41:51.000 Well, the question is, how do they get all these operatives and government to go along with this?

02:41:55.000 I guess it's all phrased, and we're doing this for the good.

02:41:58.000 No, there's some very evil people.

02:42:00.000 Also, when people get in, they're afraid to say what they know.

02:42:06.000 The kinds of things that happen to Red Springmeier and to many others have just disappeared.

02:42:11.000 I've had many people approach me because of the contacts they have.

02:42:15.000 In giving me more and more information, and the more I receive from people inside the military all the way up to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the more disturbed I get about what's going on and how late our time is.

02:42:26.000 I mean, this election, which was stolen, is an obvious example of the fact that we're living in a military dictatorship right now, and that America is about to be used to force the whole world into a new world order.

02:42:40.000 Yeah, I couldn't say it any more simply or succinctly.

02:42:43.000 Good to hear from you, Doctor.

02:42:44.000 Take care.

02:42:46.000 Yeah, it's scary.

02:42:49.000 I mean, they'll openly know that Prozac eats the brains of the children and makes them commit suicide, and so they push more of it.

02:42:55.000 You know, they know Vioxx makes your heart disintegrate, so here, take more of it.

02:42:58.000 You know, this is what they do to us.

02:43:01.000 And we're so naive.

02:43:02.000 We go, you wouldn't be bad, because I'm not bad.

02:43:05.000 I wouldn't do that.

02:43:06.000 So they mustn't be doing that.

02:43:10.000 And I've got to go along with the government or the Arabs will get me. 1.00

02:43:12.000 The Arabs work for the bankers. 1.00

02:43:14.000 The terrorists are the CIA. 0.98

02:43:17.000 I don't mean the whole CIA.

02:43:18.000 I mean those compartmentalized groups.

02:43:21.000 Molten, Denmark, and then Jason in Iowa.

02:43:23.000 That's going to be it for calls.

02:43:25.000 Yes, my Danish friend.

02:43:27.000 What's up?

02:43:27.000 Hello.

02:43:29.000 Funny you mentioned that.

02:43:32.000 I don't know if I have proof about the Manoff, but I heard about this cipher of People with royal blood in America.

02:43:40.000 I think, I mean, little Nazi blood.

02:43:43.000 There should be about one to three percent of the population should be the bloodline of the little Nazi in America. 0.80

02:43:50.000 And one people, one million should know the truth.

02:43:54.000 So, it's really your people that you're talking up before.

02:44:01.000 Now.

02:44:02.000 Hello?

02:44:03.000 Yeah, Malta, you know, I don't cut you off short when you call once a week because I don't like what you're saying.

02:44:08.000 I have trouble understanding it.

02:44:09.000 Okay.

02:44:12.000 There's no mainstream argument about it.

02:44:15.000 Some of the things maybe.

02:44:18.000 But the real thing I was saying, I really want to ask you, but after you come by, have you heard about something called World Federalist?

02:44:29.000 Yes.

02:44:30.000 Is that part of the... Yeah, you've got the World Federalist Society, you've got the Center for Global Governance, you've got all these different think tanks that are part of managing and coming up with strategies for the globalists.

02:44:45.000 Thanks for the call, Malta.

02:44:47.000 Jason in Iowa, where they arrest veterans who complain to the VA, because complaining too much is terrorism.

02:44:54.000 Go ahead, you're on the air.

02:44:55.000 Hi, Alex.

02:44:56.000 Hello.

02:44:58.000 First of all, we need you here in Iowa.

02:45:02.000 If there's a way I can help get you here, I would.

02:45:07.000 Actually, right now, I just called in because I knew you were on.

02:45:09.000 I didn't know what you were talking about or anything.

02:45:11.000 Oh, that's wonderful.

02:45:12.000 We love that.

02:45:13.000 I'm being sarcastic.

02:45:15.000 You can listen on the net, shortwave.

02:45:18.000 Yeah, I do when I can.

02:45:19.000 I would like to somehow get here, because I think it would be good for the population of the area.

02:45:24.000 Yeah, it would be.

02:45:25.000 So call local stations.

02:45:26.000 What's on your mind?

02:45:29.000 One thing is, after, you know, doing this election and all this stuff, doesn't it seem like it's even a little more of the Matrix and even way more scripted than what you even say?

02:45:41.000 I mean, I listen to you a lot and have a lot of your tapes and stuff like that.

02:45:45.000 It just seems to me like we're deeper into this, that it's more of the Matrix and more of the, more Hollywood actually than we even think it is.

02:45:54.000 The whole setup.

02:45:55.000 I mean, what do you think about that?

02:45:58.000 Well, I mean, how can it get more scripted than scripted?

02:46:01.000 I don't understand.

02:46:02.000 I don't know.

02:46:03.000 It just, I mean, Bush no way took this election.

02:46:10.000 I mean, we know that.

02:46:11.000 I know that Kerry... Yeah, they had a record voter turnout.

02:46:14.000 Most of them Democrats.

02:46:15.000 Kerry really won Ohio.

02:46:17.000 But the bigger news is both candidates were staged to begin with.

02:46:20.000 Right, and I know that.

02:46:21.000 I just... What I would like to do is try to get... I mean, this, between now and if there is an election... But see, you're still focused on presidents.

02:46:32.000 You have real elections locally.

02:46:34.000 That's where you can affect change.

02:46:37.000 Jason, good to hear from you.

02:46:38.000 Let me just say this.

02:46:40.000 Bush and Karl Rove have come out.

02:46:41.000 Vicente Fox has come out.

02:46:43.000 Blanket.

02:46:44.000 Total.

02:46:45.000 End of the borders.

02:46:46.000 Anybody who's here legal.

02:46:47.000 Anybody that can get here is legal.

02:46:49.000 Corporations can bring skilled, unskilled.

02:46:50.000 Pay to bring them here.

02:46:51.000 Federal grants to do it.

02:46:53.000 Total end of the country.

02:46:54.000 Pan-American Union.

02:46:56.000 And then they say it is not amnesty.

02:47:01.000 Just like there is no plan for a draft, we just have twelve different bills to do it, and the head of the Selective Service says they need it, but there is no draft.

02:47:08.000 And so when they do the draft, it'll be National Compulsory Service, as the bill's called.

02:47:13.000 Well, it's not a draft, you just have to serve.

02:47:15.000 Well, we're just legalizing everybody, but it's not amnesty.

02:47:19.000 Well, so what if a thousand studies show sodium fluoride is a toxic sedative?

02:47:25.000 Just take it, it's good for you.

02:47:29.000 This is the type of stuff we're talking about.

02:47:33.000 And... We're just here facing it!

02:47:39.000 The dollars plunging, wall-to-wall corruption, police garbing and ring-wraith, federally issued Darth Vader outfits, face-scanning cameras, license plate scanners going in, cameras in the school bathrooms, cameras in the police department bathrooms, and the cops put up with it!

02:47:55.000 Satellite tracker boxes, transponders in the cars, national sales taxes.

02:48:02.000 Oh, man.

02:48:03.000 Forced psychological testing, forced psychological drugging.

02:48:08.000 The entertainment's getting more and more violent, more and more wicked.

02:48:11.000 Tortures being promoted on TV like it's a new virtue.

02:48:14.000 Secret arrests all over the news. 0.96

02:48:16.000 Anti-terror training that homeschoolers and Christians are terrorists.

02:48:20.000 Forced inoculation drills going on nationwide right now. 1.00

02:48:26.000 Hell on Earth!

02:48:28.000 And you talk to the average yuppie, they don't have a clue.

02:48:33.000 Well, the government says there's no inflation.

02:48:35.000 Well, the government says the economy's good.

02:48:36.000 Boulder Dash!

02:48:41.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:40.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:51:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:51:57.000 All right, welcome back.

02:52:09.000 Final segment of this live daytime broadcast back tonight, 9 to midnight central.

02:52:16.000 Back tomorrow, of course, 11 to 2 Central.

02:52:20.000 Oh boy!

02:52:24.000 You know, I'm not trying to scare people, but I am trying to get you to see the full magnitude of what's happening to our society.

02:52:33.000 Elites have always tried to dominate and control and propagandize their minions. 0.97

02:52:40.000 And if you had one leader, a king or whatever, who wasn't completely psychopathic, stuff was pretty good.

02:52:47.000 But over time, excuse me, what happens when you try to eat a piece of pizza during the last 30 seconds of a break.

02:52:58.000 So sometimes you'd get a good king. 0.97

02:53:00.000 But then his son or daughter would be a little psychopathic, spoiled brat. 0.98

02:53:10.000 That would start really abusing people. 0.98

02:53:17.000 And so this is what happens throughout history. 0.96

02:53:25.000 And then they have children of the ruling elite and they get even more corrupt and sadistic. 0.97

02:53:32.000 And they get more and more callous and corrupt.

02:53:35.000 And now these families, these corrupt individuals have gotten control of high-tech systems and have all these top minds working for them and are just setting up a total control grid.

02:53:49.000 And we sit here and we watch it all being put into place.

02:53:51.000 It has nothing to do with terrorism.

02:53:53.000 It's about controlling us.

02:53:56.000 It's about, as they say, taking control of the evolutionary development of mankind.

02:54:01.000 That's what they say.

02:54:02.000 I'm not getting off into debates about evolution.

02:54:09.000 And this is what we're dealing with. 1.00

02:54:13.000 And these people are psychopathic. 1.00

02:54:15.000 And they enjoy death. 1.00

02:54:17.000 They don't just not care.

02:54:18.000 They enjoy it.

02:54:20.000 And the evidence is just pile upon stack upon pile.

02:54:25.000 Mountains of it.

02:54:29.000 And now the first thing Bush is going to do is give you wide open borders.

02:54:34.000 As we told you he would.

02:54:35.000 And then the ABC News comes out with a headline, conspiracy theories abound after Bush victory.

02:54:43.000 And they call it all conspiracy theories to admit that Ohio was stolen and New Mexico that they didn't count 400,000 provisional ballots.

02:54:52.000 And again, it doesn't matter because it was staged as well with John Kerry being who Bush ran against.

02:55:04.000 Look, we're going to make it through this, but it's going to take people getting involved, getting focused, getting serious, saying no to the New World Order.

02:55:13.000 And it's going to take being educated on the facts, being aggressive, being bold, having courage.

02:55:19.000 Because if we don't stand up now, these psychopathic control freaks are going to have their way with us. 0.63

02:55:25.000 And we've got to hold on to our morals, because if we don't have our morals, then we just fall directly into the pits these people set up for us.

02:55:35.000 Like it or not, a satanic death cult runs the planet.

02:55:39.000 They're predators, they enjoy feeding on us.

02:55:43.000 And, uh, we're inside the New World Order.

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02:56:24.000 And I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:30.000 Think about the cost, think about your children, and fight the new world order.

02:56:33.000 God bless.

Alex Jones Show - November 10, 2004

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