Alex Jones Show - 20041203_Fri_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Hello, my friends.

00:00:28.000 Welcome to another edition of the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:36.000 It is Friday, the third day of December 2004.

00:00:42.000 We have the author and the head of assassination science, a professor, joining us coming up in the third hour.

00:00:53.000 And we also have Katherine Albrecht.

00:00:56.000 is going to be joining us here on the broadcast as well.

00:01:00.000 Talk about the RFID chips and what's going on with that.

00:01:04.000 And we have some of the folks out distributing the VeriChip are going to be joining us as well at the same time.

00:01:11.000 So that's all coming up today.

00:01:16.000 And then of course, obviously, we're going to talk a little bit about Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:01:20.000 Not a lot, because I've got a bunch of other news here that I want to cover.

00:01:26.000 But Arnold Schwarzenegger's move to amend the Constitution, so he can run for El Presidente, picked up a lot of steam on Monday when George Herbert Walker Bush said, don't bet against Arnold, this guy's gonna get it, this is gonna be your President, basically is what he said.

00:01:45.000 Well now USA Today, their main cover front page story today, should the Constitution be amended for Arnold?

00:01:56.000 And they've got law professors and experts in here going, obviously he's already running.

00:02:00.000 He just knows how unpopular it gets if he announces that it's for himself.

00:02:04.000 Because why?

00:02:05.000 I'm in the Constitution just for a candidate?

00:02:08.000 And that's what this really is, so that's why he's being covert.

00:02:12.000 But he's always said that he wants to be President, and he's been pushing for it.

00:02:16.000 And yes, yours truly and ArnoldExposed.com is quoted in the article.

00:02:22.000 This is really the fairest mainstream news article I've seen of the scores that have been out there, but that isn't saying much.

00:02:30.000 It's still pretty positive for Lord Schwarzenegger.

00:02:35.000 Even though the author who I talked to last week told me on the phone that he thinks Arnold's a big creep.

00:02:43.000 And we had a lot of other discussions that I'm not at liberty to talk about, but that's just classic.

00:02:49.000 Even people that know he's a big creep The author of this article, Michael Kassendorf, Martin Kassendorf, excuse me, has been covering Arnold for years!

00:03:02.000 And he knows all about him!

00:03:04.000 But by the time you get into the article, it's pretty milquetoast.

00:03:08.000 But it's posted at ArnoldExposed.com.

00:03:11.000 At least when I left the office, it was being posted at ArnoldExposed.com.

00:03:14.000 If not, you can just type in, should the Constitution be amended for Arnold, you'll find the article.

00:03:21.000 But I hope you'll email out our USA Today version of it, where it has our little comments up at the top.

00:03:26.000 I hope you'll go to ArnoldExposed.com and grab it and keep pushing it like you've done over the last two weeks.

00:03:31.000 You've done a great job.

00:03:34.000 We've now, according to even their own admissions, gotten more visitors to ArnoldExposed.com.

00:03:41.000 Though we have only been launched for about a third of the time they've been launched, we've now had more visitors than the amend for Arnold crowd.

00:03:51.000 Over 6 million individual visitors in the last two weeks to ArnoldExposed.com.

00:03:57.000 And they've gotten wall-to-wall TV coverage 90-plus times what we've gotten.

00:04:02.000 We've been on CNN once for 30 seconds, 25 seconds.

00:04:05.000 They've been 10 minutes, 5 minutes, 4 minutes on every major news show you can imagine.

00:04:11.000 Alright, that aside, I'm not going to spend really any more time on that today.

00:04:15.000 I might read a few of the quotes out of the article.

00:04:18.000 A bone-chilling call yesterday at the end of the broadcast.

00:04:22.000 The caller called in, and the caller said, I'm going to play the last broadcast of Tom Brokaw.

00:04:32.000 One of the last things he said on the show.

00:04:35.000 It was a report from Volusion.

00:04:39.000 And they played the clip, and I've since found the transcript to confirm this really is a real Tom Brokaw clip.

00:04:45.000 A lot of people saw this as well.

00:04:48.000 I'm getting the tapes sent to me.

00:04:49.000 Where they said that if they don't take their retina scan ID card and they get out of line, get away from their house, they'll be shot on sight.

00:04:57.000 We'll talk about that when we get back, too.

00:04:59.000 Stay with us.

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00:08:06.000 All right, my friends. my friends.

00:08:34.000 We're going to get into tenant calls for Internet controls.

00:08:39.000 Former CI director, also last week the head of central command called for regulating your internet. 0.90

00:08:46.000 We've got to stop those Muslims after all. 1.00

00:08:48.000 Give up your free speech. 0.99

00:08:51.000 We've got to force psychologically test all the children, too.

00:08:53.000 That's to stop Al-Qaeda.

00:08:55.000 Everything is to stop Al-Qaeda.

00:08:56.000 We have to take all your freedoms away and rule you. 0.98

00:08:59.000 Boy, we don't like doing this.

00:09:01.000 Powerful governments never want to dominate people.

00:09:03.000 We just can't stand it, but we're going to make you slaves now. 1.00

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00:09:08.000 Mandatory mental health screening program would dose pregnant women with prescription drugs that cause birth defects.

00:09:13.000 That's right!

00:09:16.000 Bizarre mandatory mental health screening program to make Illinois act like Big Brother.

00:09:22.000 I don't know if this report is accurate.

00:09:24.000 We did confirm two former KGB chiefs were hired as consultants for Homeland Security.

00:09:31.000 This was confirmed several years ago.

00:09:33.000 They've now rotated out.

00:09:37.000 Al Martin is reporting, and I spent an hour on Google trying to confirm this and couldn't, that the Silver Fox, Marcus Wolfe, the head of the Stasi, Uh, has been hired by the U.S.

00:09:52.000 Government for Homeland Security.

00:09:54.000 I did confirm he's still alive at 81.

00:09:57.000 I did confirm that he has a house in the U.S.

00:10:00.000 and Israel and Germany.

00:10:02.000 And I did confirm he's written some books and things with top neocons.

00:10:07.000 So I don't rule it out, but I'm going to have to confirm this before I believe it.

00:10:10.000 I mean, if they start hiring Stasi chiefs, that's even worse than KGB.

00:10:16.000 Probably true.

00:10:17.000 I can't confirm it.

00:10:18.000 I'm not saying it's not true.

00:10:19.000 Let's just say I hope it's not true.

00:10:23.000 Conservatives say Alberto Gonzales nomination deserves rejection.

00:10:27.000 Rocket chemical fuel found in water and produce almost nationwide.

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00:10:39.000 And of course we have assassination science author coming on later.

00:10:44.000 Then on top of that we also I have coming on the broadcast Catherine Albrecht to talk about the latest implantable microchip information.

00:10:54.000 But before we go any further on this Friday edition.

00:10:58.000 Fridays always turn out to be our best broadcast.

00:11:00.000 It's so jam-packed.

00:11:03.000 Before we do that, at the very end of the show yesterday, a caller, and I'm glad I went to that caller.

00:11:11.000 We had the phone lines loaded with poor folks who never got on air.

00:11:16.000 We went to a caller, And he said, did you see Tom Brokaw's last show?

00:11:22.000 Last TV broadcast last night.

00:11:25.000 And I said, no, obviously I heard about it.

00:11:27.000 I don't really care.

00:11:27.000 The guy's, what I was thinking, I talked about this earlier in the show, the guy reads off a teleprompter.

00:11:33.000 I mean, big deal.

00:11:34.000 20-something years reading a teleprompter.

00:11:36.000 I don't care.

00:11:37.000 But the caller, we're about to re-air this, said, well, and we've since found the transcript that confirmed that indeed the audio you're about to hear was the nightly news on NBC two nights ago.

00:11:49.000 He's got this reporter in Fallujah, and the reporter chillingly talks about how they've kicked 200,000 plus people out of Fallujah, how they're going to let them in a few thousand at a time, and how they're given ID cards with a retina scan and a thumbprint, finger scans on it, And that they're only allowed to be around their house and to certain designated areas.

00:12:13.000 If they're caught leaving those areas, they can be shot dead.

00:12:16.000 Lethal force. 0.98

00:12:20.000 Boy, that's freedom, is it not?

00:12:24.000 And Tom Brokaw just moved on to the next question.

00:12:27.000 This is the oldest form of total war.

00:12:29.000 This is dehumanization.

00:12:32.000 This is complete abject slavery. 1.00

00:12:35.000 You know, I know a lot of sickos in their easy chairs go level Fallujah, kill everyone, nuke them, nuke them, nuke them. 0.98

00:12:43.000 I mean, they admit a maximum of just a few thousand people are, quote, combatants in the city. 1.00

00:12:48.000 So out of two hundred and something thousand, let's just kill them all. 1.00

00:12:53.000 That's what the Nazis would do. 1.00

00:12:55.000 You shot an SS officer in the tail, they'd line up a hundred men and children and kill them. 0.99

00:13:00.000 And I've heard neocons go, hey, somebody blew up a pipeline. 0.98

00:13:05.000 Well, let's just blow up the village nearby, and that's what Saddam would do. 0.97

00:13:09.000 I mean, this is the... Saddam had a few good ideas. 0.95

00:13:14.000 And don't worry, they've hired all the Ba'athists back and have them out doing this. 1.00

00:13:20.000 So this is really sick. 0.96

00:13:22.000 This is really, really sick.

00:13:24.000 And I want to remind you that in 1999, I flew from Austin, Texas to Oakland, California, and for an entire week, Videotaped 5,000 Marines and over 3,000 other foreign troops.

00:13:40.000 Israeli, French, Dutch, British, Australian, German.

00:13:46.000 This is all in Police State 2000.

00:13:51.000 Openly trained to break up the men, the women, the children in these giant camps. 0.92

00:13:56.000 But they set up, they had hundreds of role players.

00:13:59.000 They would interrogate them.

00:14:00.000 I even got video of this until the Marine Corps spokesman ran up and said, no video of this!

00:14:04.000 No video of this!

00:14:04.000 You even see that in the film.

00:14:06.000 And they're interrogating them.

00:14:07.000 Where are you from?

00:14:08.000 I'm from San Francisco.

00:14:09.000 Where'd you get the helmet?

00:14:10.000 You know, they're interrogating the militia resistance fighter who didn't want to turn his guns in.

00:14:16.000 They wouldn't let us see the rest of the... and he was, by the way, doing thumb scanning.

00:14:19.000 And then being given an ID card and taking a digital face scan as well.

00:14:23.000 And I remember, they're making almost everybody in Iraq take ID cards when they first got there.

00:14:28.000 Also, if you work at key infrastructure, you have to wear a little RFID bracelet.

00:14:33.000 We knew all that, but now, if you don't have it, we're going to shoot you.

00:14:38.000 And they had an Army report earlier this year, 75 to 90 percent of those taken to any of the 32 camps in Iraq, not just Abu Ghraib, were families stopped at checkpoints who didn't have their IDs in order.

00:14:53.000 Well now they just won't take you to a camp for torture to break up your family and take the husband and torture him. 0.85

00:14:57.000 Or rape your children in front of you. 0.98

00:14:59.000 That's admitted in the Army's own report. 1.00

00:15:00.000 Or kill your wife in front of you or beat you to death and laugh about it. 1.00

00:15:03.000 Blow off some steam as Rush Limbaugh said. 1.00

00:15:07.000 They will just kill you. 0.58

00:15:09.000 So you're going to get what you want folks. 0.99

00:15:11.000 People that said kill anybody.

00:15:14.000 And they don't have water, they don't have power, you gotta stay in your house, hope they bring you food, you gotta stay in your house and die, and if you come anywhere outside your yard, outside around your house, or one of the little aid centers, you will be machine-gunned to death.

00:15:29.000 But don't worry!

00:15:30.000 You reap what you sow, America.

00:15:31.000 You don't have to worry about Al-C-I-A-D-A attacking you. 1.00

00:15:36.000 You have to worry about this government that's doing this, has been doing war games for the very same thing against you.

00:15:42.000 And I have the video, I have the admissions.

00:15:45.000 And they're doing drills to round up and arrest homeschoolers and their families. 0.99

00:15:49.000 This has been in the news. 1.00

00:15:53.000 They're doing drills and homeschoolers are terrorists, their parents are terrorists, you're all evil. 0.99

00:15:57.000 Of course, they'll never get away with this, folks. 1.00

00:15:59.000 And be bold.

00:16:00.000 The exodus away from the government training centers is accelerating.

00:16:04.000 We're winning the fight.

00:16:05.000 They're panicking.

00:16:06.000 They're losing control.

00:16:09.000 So we stand against Lord Bush.

00:16:11.000 We stand against Al-Qaeda, their control arm. 0.85

00:16:15.000 We stand against it.

00:16:16.000 Now let's go ahead and play the last three or four minutes of my broadcast yesterday, so you can hear this Tom Brokaw comment.

00:16:23.000 Here it is.

00:16:25.000 Alright, folks.

00:16:26.000 A few final calls.

00:16:27.000 We'll be back tonight, of course, 9 to midnight central.

00:16:29.000 I want to thank Paul Watson, Jimmy Walter, of course, Dr. Dennis Cuddy for joining us today.

00:16:35.000 A lot of experts I respect say there is a 5 million European New World Order in the Americas.

00:16:41.000 Okay, let's stop right there.

00:16:42.000 Let's stop right there.

00:16:43.000 That's a show from a couple weeks ago.

00:16:47.000 It's yesterday's show, folks.

00:16:51.000 It's yesterday's show, the last five minutes, and we'll try to air this here.

00:16:58.000 If not, it's on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:17:02.000 We've got the file up there where we did this interview, but I thought I'd give it to you in better audio quality, because you take it off the net, put it back on the net, stream it back on the radio, it degrades the audio quality.

00:17:17.000 And Will, it's just all fun.

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00:17:24.000 It went down right before the show started, so they're trying to fix that right now.

00:17:27.000 So we can even have guests on today and take your calls.

00:17:30.000 So it's not really their fault.

00:17:32.000 I've got one person doing five people's jobs right now.

00:17:35.000 Do we have the clip now, maybe?

00:17:38.000 Let's go ahead and roll yesterday.

00:17:39.000 Here it is.

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00:19:19.000 Steve in Ohio, you're one of our last callers on the air with Mr. Moore.

00:19:22.000 Go ahead.

00:19:23.000 Let's pause right there.

00:19:24.000 How you doing, Alex?

00:19:25.000 Let's pause right there.

00:19:27.000 We're going to go to break now.

00:19:29.000 When we come back, we'll go to the call.

00:19:32.000 And then we've got some guests coming up today.

00:19:34.000 This is really an important issue.

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00:23:58.000 They railed against the crown.

00:24:11.000 Another ragtag bend. 0.96

00:24:16.000 All right, Independent.

00:24:19.000 All right, now we're going to go to the last couple minutes of yesterday's broadcast where we have Tom Brokaw interviewing an NBC reporter there on the ground in Iraq talking about just this unlimited now we're going to go to the last couple minutes of yesterday's broadcast where we have They're going to use lethal force to kill people if they break the rules necessarily.

00:24:45.000 Now, breaking rules!

00:24:46.000 And I want you to know, I'm not joking when I say this, they're training for exactly this here in the U.S.

00:24:53.000 and Iraq, one facet of Iraq just isn't oil or weapon sales or How are you doing Alex?

00:24:58.000 Real quick comment.

00:24:59.000 The government admits that Serbia has been used as a war game drill for here in the U.S. and other areas for urban warfare suppression of populations and occupation.

00:25:08.000 So go ahead and go to that clip.

00:25:10.000 Steve in Ohio, you're one of our last callers on the air with Mr. Moore.

00:25:14.000 Go ahead.

00:25:14.000 Yeah, how you doing, Alex?

00:25:16.000 Real quick comment.

00:25:17.000 I happened to tape the last broadcast of Tom Brokaw last night, and they were covering the Iraq war, and guess what?

00:25:24.000 They are going to biometrically scan the people of Fallujah with eye scans.

00:25:29.000 And they also made it clear that they were going to shoot to kill anybody that doesn't conform to the law.

00:25:34.000 I mean, and they didn't say insurgent, they made it clear it was when they let the citizens back into the city to reclaim whatever's left of it.

00:25:40.000 Wait a minute, you're joking.

00:25:41.000 Dan Rather's... I mean, not Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw's last show, they said, we're going to wrap the skin on it.

00:25:47.000 I know they said that.

00:25:49.000 I got the audio clip already cued up and it's ready to go.

00:25:51.000 Do you want to hear it?

00:25:52.000 I've got to hear it.

00:25:54.000 Here it is, folks.

00:25:55.000 Many others are badly damaged.

00:25:58.000 So far, the plan is for most of the city's 250,000 residents to return in stages.

00:26:05.000 At first, only a few thousand will be let in.

00:26:08.000 They'll be fingerprinted, given a retina scan, and then an ID card, which will only allow them to travel around their homes or to nearby aid centers, which are now being built.

00:26:19.000 The Marines will be authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules.

00:26:24.000 Tom?

00:26:25.000 Richard, what's the latest on the election?

00:26:27.000 Hear that?

00:26:28.000 Now let me stop you.

00:26:29.000 That is the most... That's what they've trained for here in America.

00:26:32.000 Yes.

00:26:32.000 I have video of them doing the mock retina scans, the cards, all that in Police State 2000.

00:26:36.000 Yeah.

00:26:37.000 That's what... I'm begging you.

00:26:38.000 Will you mail that to me immediately?

00:26:40.000 Yes, I will.

00:26:41.000 I'll give you the video, the whole thing of it.

00:26:43.000 But I was shocked when I saw it.

00:26:45.000 They made it clear that they're going to retina scan the people.

00:26:48.000 I cannot believe these poor people are like third world people. 1.00

00:26:51.000 They're already putting them under this terror.

00:26:53.000 Hey listen, they're tearing out all their agriculture, everything.

00:26:55.000 It's dehumanization.

00:26:57.000 Yeah.

00:26:59.000 Folks, that is the Antichrist beast system. 0.62

00:27:01.000 Right. 1.00

00:27:02.000 And then you've got your card, and if you walk to the wrong place, we're going to go ahead and shoot you. 0.99

00:27:06.000 Mr. Moore, I mean, this is... comments, final comments.

00:27:10.000 Well, it doesn't surprise me, and this is a heads up for what we're looking forward to in this country in the not-too-distant future.

00:27:21.000 I'm almost speechless after that.

00:27:24.000 Do you promise me, Steve, that you're going to mail that to me?

00:27:28.000 What do I send it to?

00:27:29.000 Which address?

00:27:30.000 Send it to 3001.

00:27:31.000 Yes.

00:27:33.000 South Lamar, L-A-M-A-R. 1.00

00:27:35.000 Yeah, I'll email you before I send it to let you know what I'm sending it in, okay?

00:27:40.000 Sweet 100.

00:27:40.000 Okay.

00:27:41.000 Austin, Texas.

00:27:44.000 Okay.

00:27:45.000 78704.

00:27:45.000 And I tell you what, if you FedEx that bad boy to me, I'll send you three or four free videos.

00:27:50.000 Okay, I will FedEx it to you.

00:27:52.000 I'll give you a standard play copy.

00:27:54.000 It's a high quality copy.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, and just thank you so much, sir.

00:27:58.000 You're welcome.

00:27:58.000 Bye-bye.

00:27:59.000 Unbelievable.

00:28:00.000 Did you hear that?

00:28:02.000 My friends, I mean, what do you say?

00:28:05.000 I've written a little article about this.

00:28:06.000 We've posted the audio.

00:28:08.000 We're getting the video.

00:28:09.000 I did go to the NBC.

00:28:11.000 I found the transcript.

00:28:12.000 They did indeed say this and do this.

00:28:16.000 And again, it's hidden in plain view.

00:28:18.000 Just right out in the open. 1.00

00:28:21.000 You break the rules, we're going to kill you. 0.99

00:28:24.000 And I guess that's what people out there want. 1.00

00:28:26.000 Kill them. 1.00

00:28:27.000 Nuke them. 1.00

00:28:27.000 Kill everybody. 1.00

00:28:30.000 100,000 dead innocent civilians isn't enough in the last year and a half over there. 0.99

00:28:35.000 Or in the last 13 years, over a million and a half.

00:28:39.000 It's not enough!

00:28:42.000 Give them freedom!

00:28:43.000 We put Saddam in there! 1.00

00:28:45.000 And we trained him out of torture and kill him, and he wasn't doing a good enough job, so we put him back in!

00:28:50.000 We put his people back in! 1.00

00:28:51.000 And we feel good!

00:28:53.000 Yeah, the same government that's raping these people Intellectually, psychologically, spiritually, financially, is now going to do that to America. 1.00

00:29:03.000 It's so sick! 0.98

00:29:05.000 And people who don't even know where Iraq is on a map are just out here every day. 0.99

00:29:09.000 There's a sub-human over there! 1.00

00:29:10.000 Kill them all! 1.00

00:29:12.000 We gotta survive! 1.00

00:29:13.000 We're under attack over here! 1.00

00:29:14.000 We gotta kill them all before they kill us! 1.00

00:29:18.000 Your bosses did that on 9-11, fools! 1.00

00:29:20.000 Look at the evidence! 1.00

00:29:23.000 The physical, the circumstantial, the motive.

00:29:26.000 We're the New World Order takeover.

00:29:28.000 The facts.

00:29:31.000 Just keep feeling good.

00:29:32.000 Keep denying it.

00:29:34.000 Don't worry.

00:29:34.000 They're trying to do that to you.

00:29:36.000 They're going to take your pension funds, take your dollar value, plunge your dollar.

00:29:40.000 They're going to draft your children. 0.99

00:29:43.000 Don't worry.

00:29:45.000 Don't worry. 0.97

00:29:45.000 You're going to get to be a big fat slave, just like they are in Iraq. 0.97

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run. 0.85

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00:33:10.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:33:14.000 I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.

00:33:19.000 And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire.

00:33:24.000 The ring of fire.

00:33:26.000 And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire.

00:33:30.000 So my friends, you just heard the audio.

00:33:36.000 Of Tom Brokaw.

00:33:39.000 Interviewing one of their minions.

00:33:42.000 One of the embedded reporters.

00:33:47.000 Just nonchalantly, yeah, they're all going to be issued these ID cards with retina scans and thumb scans and they get away from their house.

00:33:57.000 They're prisoners.

00:33:57.000 It's turning the whole city into a prison.

00:33:59.000 Ah, there'll be lethal force used on them.

00:34:03.000 And then Tom Brokaw says, what about the election?

00:34:06.000 Well, I can answer your question.

00:34:07.000 The election coming up in January.

00:34:09.000 I checked it again last night.

00:34:11.000 No one is running for office.

00:34:14.000 Everyone who was appointed by our government that put the new government in there a year ago was appointed over 300 seats and no one is running against any of them.

00:34:31.000 No one has announced.

00:34:32.000 A few candidates said they might run, they were car bombed and machine gunned or arrested within days.

00:34:38.000 And we're talking about mainstream people in the country.

00:34:40.000 You say you want to run, they kill you within days. 0.98

00:34:45.000 Openly, a tank drives up, blows your house up, Iraqi security forces, Iraqi National Guard come in, kill you and your entire family. 0.98

00:34:55.000 This is freedom.

00:34:56.000 These are admitted reports.

00:34:58.000 This is mainstream news.

00:35:00.000 Back of our news wires, you never see it in the big newspaper.

00:35:05.000 Man, that is freedom, imagine. 0.98

00:35:07.000 Don't have your ID card, we kill you on sight.

00:35:10.000 We put you in camps if you don't have your ID cards in order in the rest of the country. 1.00

00:35:16.000 If you run for office, we kill you immediately. 0.98

00:35:19.000 It has never been this bad. 0.99

00:35:22.000 In the best cities, they have seven to eight hours of intermittent power a day.

00:35:26.000 The water is completely filthy.

00:35:28.000 Our troops are getting sick in mass.

00:35:31.000 They're getting liver flukes.

00:35:32.000 I mean, Iraq was industrialized, folks. 0.98

00:35:35.000 Clean water, power, everything.

00:35:38.000 They were becoming first world up until 1991.

00:35:43.000 Not anymore!

00:35:45.000 Man, they put Saddam in there, told him to attack different countries.

00:35:49.000 He followed orders.

00:35:50.000 They set up their agent, trained by the U.S.

00:35:52.000 government publicly.

00:35:53.000 The anti-communist fighter, and they set him up, he followed orders, and when he followed orders, they shot him down, they put sanctions on that country, they mass-murdered those people, and now they're gonna create hell on earth, they're gonna straightjacket those people, and then like vampires, just feed on them.

00:36:11.000 That's the facts, folks!

00:36:13.000 Our government took the 18-year-old commando, Saddam Hussein, and trained him in Egypt, and then even in the U.S., He went in and killed scores of people, machine-gunned, bombed.

00:36:26.000 Then they told the Ba'athists to put him in as the security chief in 1968.

00:36:30.000 Then they helped have a coup d'etat in 1979 for him.

00:36:33.000 Three years later, under public orders and funding, over $15 billion in U.S.

00:36:37.000 funding, he invaded Iran, killed over a million and a half Iranians, which we of course cheered about. 1.00

00:36:45.000 Over 400,000 Iraqis died in that war.

00:36:48.000 And then they told him, uh, go ahead and invade Kuwait.

00:36:51.000 We don't get involved in that.

00:36:52.000 You know, we're your ally.

00:36:53.000 April Gillespie on videotape.

00:36:55.000 He smiled and said, thank you, and invaded a week later.

00:36:58.000 Actually, six days later.

00:37:00.000 And, uh, just, the rest is history.

00:37:05.000 And it's just gonna get worse and worse.

00:37:08.000 One of the first things they did was stop the reporting of death statistics in Iraq.

00:37:13.000 When the new puppet government was put in.

00:37:15.000 A year ago.

00:37:18.000 No more cancer deaths, no more heart attack numbers, no more deaths of any type.

00:37:22.000 It is against the law to report those numbers.

00:37:24.000 Though aid agencies have done it, Red Cross has done it, they're pretty established.

00:37:30.000 They say 100,000 dead civilians as of a few months ago.

00:37:34.000 100,000 people!

00:37:38.000 I thought it was a liberation!

00:37:39.000 I thought it was to give them milk and honey in the streets!

00:37:43.000 Really take good care of them.

00:37:44.000 It was a humanitarian mission. 1.00

00:37:47.000 Now let's kill them all. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Nuke the whole place. 1.00

00:37:49.000 Just kill them. 1.00

00:37:50.000 There's some human. 1.00

00:37:51.000 I've heard you call in.

00:37:53.000 There's some human. 1.00

00:37:54.000 Just kill them. 1.00

00:37:56.000 Just kill them all! 1.00

00:37:58.000 Nuke them all! 1.00

00:38:00.000 Hey folks, they weren't Al-Qaeda. 0.86

00:38:02.000 And Al-Qaeda wasn't Al-Qaeda.

00:38:04.000 It was Al-C-I-A-D-A. 1.00

00:38:08.000 But now Iran's got the nukes and they could hit us in 45 minutes, the British are saying.

00:38:12.000 It's even the exact same script and the exact same words. 0.96

00:38:16.000 Proven to be liars last time. 0.97

00:38:18.000 Lying again. 0.60

00:38:19.000 They don't even change the talking points.

00:38:25.000 And the very people doing this to the Iraqis would love to do it to you. 1.00

00:38:29.000 They're doing it all over the world.

00:38:31.000 They're into this.

00:38:33.000 This is dehumanization.

00:38:35.000 They're doing everything they can.

00:38:36.000 They're getting rid of your pension funds.

00:38:38.000 They're sucking the dollar's value out.

00:38:40.000 They're shipping the jobs as fast as they can.

00:38:42.000 Getting rid of the borders as fast as they can.

00:38:44.000 Going after your guns as fast as they can.

00:38:50.000 It's just beautiful.

00:38:52.000 All these people they're appointing are pro-abortion, pro-open border, pro-gun control.

00:38:57.000 The new Homeland Security head, the head New York City cop who helped Cover up 9-11, we have clear evidence of that there on that day.

00:39:06.000 It's like General Myers, head of NORAD, got promoted up to Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman.

00:39:12.000 I mean, just the whole gut gaggle of these people.

00:39:15.000 Alberto, I love Torture Gonzales, just all of them! 1.00

00:39:19.000 They're just intensifying their hold, and now we have the report that they've hired Mr. Wolf, the head of the SCSI, And this report turned out to be accurate last time of another KGB chief, but it's just getting too weird.

00:39:36.000 It's just getting too weird.

00:39:40.000 Here's another one.

00:39:41.000 Tenet calls for internet controls.

00:39:43.000 And again, last week, the head of CENTCOM at CENTRAL COMMAND said, yeah, we've got to control the net and control speech on it because Arab extremists are using it.

00:39:54.000 And yeah, it means we'll have to control your net, too.

00:39:57.000 You know, Internet, too, is going to take control and make everybody else shut down their websites or go over to their system and it'll all be censored, but it's for your safety.

00:40:07.000 Tenet calls for internet controls.

00:40:09.000 Former CIA Director George Tenet called Wednesday for tough new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States using the internet, which he called a potential Achilles' heel for our financial stability and physical security.

00:40:22.000 Which, every time they introduce an internet control bill, there's a hack attack that day that leads back to the government, and they go, see, we gotta pass it, we're being attacked.

00:40:30.000 They've got, like, 80% of the hackers working for them, folks.

00:40:34.000 I mean, this is a joke.

00:40:35.000 I know that these actions will be controversial in this age when we still think the Internet is free and open society with no control.

00:40:45.000 See how he poses that?

00:40:46.000 I know you still think it's free, he continued.

00:40:48.000 Tenet told an IT security conference in Washington.

00:40:51.000 But ultimately, continuing the quote, but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control.

00:41:03.000 The national media, including United States, United Press International, were excluded from the event at Tenet's request.

00:41:10.000 Oh, that's freedom, organizers said, but UPI was given an account of the speech by a member of the audience.

00:41:15.000 The quotes were verified by a source close to the former director.

00:41:20.000 Tenet's speech articulated widely shared concerns among U.S.

00:41:24.000 intelligence and homeland security officials that telecommunications, specifically the internet, represent a backdoor through which terrorists and other enemies of the United States can attack the country, even though some progress has been made in securing the physical infrastructure.

00:41:38.000 Yes, they've now grabbed control of all the hubs, and now they're announcing they're not going to upgrade those 20 hubs, and they're going to let the net die.

00:41:45.000 That's the headline.

00:41:46.000 The net will die.

00:41:47.000 Is dead.

00:41:49.000 BBC, AP, Reuters, a few months ago, and they're going to let it fail, and then make you go to Internet 2, where you get a subdomain, and they have very strict rules on what's allowed.

00:42:02.000 We're hurting them too bad, folks!

00:42:03.000 The Internet, Tennant said, represents a potential Achilles heel of our financial stability and physical security if the networks we are creating are not protected.

00:42:11.000 Efforts at physical security will not be enough, he argued, because the thinking enemy That we'll confront is good and is going to school on our network vulnerabilities.

00:42:22.000 Leveraging the possibility of the Internet, give them the work anonymously and remotely with little risk of apprehension.

00:42:32.000 And he went on to say that we've just got to control and track and restrict and we also now have Again, the head of CENTCOM is saying that they've got to regulate speech on the net.

00:42:51.000 And now they say that there is an organized crime providing a nexus between professional hackers and terror groups.

00:42:58.000 Oh, hackers are now working with the terrorists.

00:43:02.000 And it says, Russian Mob. 0.59

00:43:05.000 Oooh! 0.97

00:43:06.000 Oh, it's all over within the federal government.

00:43:08.000 The Department of Homeland Security has the lead role in protecting the United States from Internet terrorism.

00:43:14.000 But the department's head of cyber security recently quit suddenly, and then reports that he had clashed with his supervisors.

00:43:24.000 And it goes on and on and on.

00:43:29.000 This is incredible.

00:43:30.000 The second tier leadership that was emerging, he added, oversaw a global decentralization and decentralized movement with the ability to thrive, depend, crucially, on the internet, which enabled them to share information from explosives recipes for the best ways to get into Iraq undetected.

00:43:48.000 So, see, we've got to control the speech, see?

00:43:50.000 They get into that in the article.

00:43:52.000 While the terrorists are sharing information.

00:43:54.000 So we've got to go ahead and restrict the net.

00:43:57.000 The group, he said, was undoubtedly mapping vulnerabilities and weaknesses in our telecommunications networks.

00:44:06.000 This is just... I mean, it just never ends, people.

00:44:10.000 It never... There's no end to the levels they will plumb.

00:44:17.000 Mandatory mental health screening program would dose pregnant women with prescription drugs that cause birth defects.

00:44:23.000 Before I cover this article, yeah, three, four years ago, almost four years ago, there was a press release put out on the letterhead of the governor of Oregon, who was a psychiatrist, saying, we're going to drug women while they're pregnant.

00:44:37.000 And then if a baby's, quote, at risk because of their economics or stuff in the background of the parents, we're going to go ahead and drug the child at birth.

00:44:46.000 I'm not joking.

00:44:47.000 Bureaucrats in Chicago are currently discussing a proposal that requires a mental health screening of all pregnant women and children up to the age of 18 years.

00:44:54.000 The purported mission of the program is to protect the health of the public by diagnosing mental disorders before they become full-blown problems.

00:45:02.000 But in reality, as we've seen from similar programs in the past, the real mission is to diagnose people with fictitious brain diseases and behavioral disorders, then dose them with highly toxic prescription drugs that not only generate profits for pharmacological companies, but also for the psychiatrists who prescribe them.

00:45:20.000 What's especially frightening about the program is that they may include the dosing of pregnant women with prescription drugs that are known to increase the risk of birth defects.

00:45:27.000 We also know the clinical trials of antidepressants and experiments involving mice, that children who grow up on antidepressant drugs have a much higher risk of being depressed as adults whether or not they continue taking those drugs.

00:45:41.000 In other words, it's not enough that as a nation we misdiagnose children hyperactivity caused by sugar consumption as being brain chemistry imbalance and those doses of all children on Ritalin.

00:45:54.000 It seems that we also want to start diagnosing and dosing pregnant women as well.

00:45:59.000 Who's next?

00:45:59.000 Are we going to dose all men under the age of 30?

00:46:01.000 Are we going to require the mental health screening of all elderly people and start dosing everyone under the age of 65?

00:46:08.000 Or over the age of 65, brain-altering drugs too?

00:46:13.000 Here's another one.

00:46:14.000 Bizarre mandatory mental health screening program to make Illinois act like Big Brother.

00:46:18.000 We're talking about Illinois because the Fed just passed this two weeks ago to the entire country, but Illinois, Texas, Pennsylvania, and seven other states have already begun under other names, but we got the internal documents six months ago.

00:46:32.000 It's the same program.

00:46:34.000 When people in Pennsylvania, in the government, blew the whistle and said, look, I've been in the meetings.

00:46:37.000 Here's the documents.

00:46:39.000 We posted them, by the way, on InfoWars.com.

00:46:43.000 Openly, this was written by the drug companies, and they said they're going to put half the kids on drugs, up from 15% they brag about the great profits.

00:46:51.000 It's simple.

00:46:51.000 They buy off the government, order them to put you on drugs.

00:46:55.000 A series of public forums will be held at five different locations in Illinois on a $10 million plan which will implement the Children's Mental Health Act of 2003.

00:47:03.000 The program requires all pregnant women and children through the age of 18 years to be examined for mental health needs.

00:47:10.000 Larry Tranner, a parent of four children and a contact for Citizens Commission on Human Rights states that the evaluation of mental conditions is subject and since psychiatric involvement has started, SAT scores have gone down.

00:47:24.000 And it says all parents and citizens who are outraged at this new program should attend the forums.

00:47:30.000 They passed the law last year, now they're implementing them here in the U.S.

00:47:36.000 Ten states already passed these in the last few years.

00:47:39.000 Texas was the first, 1994.

00:47:43.000 And years before that they were already doing it in the public schools under another name.

00:47:46.000 Because everyone at my high school had it done to them.

00:47:50.000 And they didn't even tell my parents.

00:47:52.000 And I was smarter than most, but I didn't even question it.

00:47:58.000 Two days of it.

00:48:01.000 Two days of it.

00:48:04.000 Years before it was made law to fund it in Texas.

00:48:10.000 You starting to get how serious this is, people?

00:48:14.000 You're starting to realize what we're dealing with.

00:48:16.000 By the way, if you don't think they want to put all of you on these drugs, when they have control of you, they put over two-thirds on them.

00:48:21.000 And that number's growing.

00:48:23.000 In Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey, California, the states we have the numbers on.

00:48:28.000 Just had a big WOAI TV piece a couple weeks ago.

00:48:31.000 We read the whole thing here on air.

00:48:33.000 Seven-page report.

00:48:34.000 Where they admitted the average child in foster care, over two-thirds of them are on it, the average one is on seven drugs.

00:48:44.000 Some on upwards of 17.

00:48:46.000 When they start having seizures from them, they then put them on seizure medications.

00:48:49.000 And they described five-year-olds who were happy and fun and were taken from their parents, two years later in comas.

00:48:57.000 Going from being on drugs to having seizures and being put on seizure medication.

00:49:01.000 Dying.

00:49:03.000 Dying.

00:49:05.000 And of course, BBC reported where they take kids and do experimental drugs and pesticides on them.

00:49:10.000 The CPS workers quit in New York and said, we're not going to be part of this.

00:49:12.000 We're not even doctors.

00:49:14.000 We're just giving pesticide and drugs to give them. 0.66

00:49:17.000 And we watch the child, happy and healthy, then start throwing up.

00:49:20.000 A week later, go into bed.

00:49:21.000 A month later, they just die.

00:49:24.000 The little children just die, and they take their little bodies.

00:49:27.000 They're in government custody, so they are given, sold to medical institutions.

00:49:33.000 It's not a late night horror movie, folks.

00:49:36.000 It's America, right out in the open, and it's going to continue.

00:49:39.000 It's going to continue.

00:49:40.000 Because we're a demon-possessed country, folks. 0.99

00:49:43.000 You don't think we can sit there and say, nuke, kill all the Iraqis, or subhuman, and not have that come back on us, do you? 0.99

00:49:50.000 No, that's just a manifestation. 0.96

00:49:52.000 You see, we just don't know about the Holocaust going on here.

00:49:55.000 Or if we do, it's in the back of the newspaper.

00:49:59.000 And again, I'm not embellishing, I'm actually holding back how bad it really is.

00:50:04.000 I know you don't want to believe it.

00:50:05.000 Fine.

00:50:05.000 Don't check out what I've said.

00:50:06.000 Just keep denying it.

00:50:08.000 Just keep letting them in Texas over two-thirds, over two-thirds on the drugs. 0.99

00:50:15.000 Now, you don't think they want to make all of us do it?

00:50:17.000 When they have control, it's over two-thirds.

00:50:20.000 And there's no limit to the amount.

00:50:22.000 Because these foster care facilities get more money for every drug they put them on.

00:50:26.000 And so they dose them and dose them and dose them.

00:50:28.000 These people are driving around in Jaguars, in brand new Cadillacs.

00:50:31.000 They live in gigantic houses.

00:50:33.000 I mean, you can go look at the state contracts.

00:50:35.000 These people are millionaires.

00:50:37.000 They got huge jet boats, everything.

00:50:38.000 They are on top of the world. 0.98

00:50:42.000 They are ghouls, folks. 1.00

00:50:43.000 Ghouls. 0.98

00:50:44.000 Ghouls unknown in history.

00:50:47.000 This is Mingala level.

00:50:50.000 But they don't even know they're Mingalas. 0.91

00:50:52.000 Because of the brainwashing.

00:50:55.000 They just know they lack all the cash.

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00:54:10.000 You know, this happens once or twice a year like clockwork.

00:54:20.000 Mm-hmm.

00:54:21.000 Mm-hmm.

00:54:21.000 Our T1 for all our phone lines are down.

00:54:25.000 So we can't take calls today unless it goes back up magically.

00:54:29.000 And generally what the phone company then does is start switching off all the other big lines that go to satellites when they're fixing things.

00:54:34.000 That's why you heard me cut out right before the last segment.

00:54:37.000 So it might be a roller coaster ride today, but hey, twice a year.

00:54:41.000 And even my cable goes out every week, so we go out twice a year.

00:54:45.000 What's the big deal?

00:54:46.000 I'm sorry though!

00:54:49.000 But we're going to try to get guests on.

00:54:51.000 We'll see how this works.

00:54:52.000 We've got limited phone lines for that.

00:54:55.000 The boards aren't wired up.

00:54:56.000 They're wired up for the backup system.

00:54:58.000 It just gets a little touchy.

00:54:59.000 We've got three guests coming up.

00:55:02.000 Actually, four guests coming up.

00:55:03.000 We've got distributors for VeraChip, the implantable chips, and now at clubs here in the U.S.

00:55:09.000 and the club owner.

00:55:10.000 Scheduled, and I wanted to have Catherine Albrecht up to have a debate with them, but we can't stick three people on at once. 1.00

00:55:17.000 So we'll have her on after they're on. 0.96

00:55:18.000 I hope she's listening so she can counter them afterwards.

00:55:23.000 She's got a lot of other big breaking news for you as well coming up in the third hour.

00:55:31.000 She'll be on 30 Minutes in the next hour.

00:55:32.000 In the third hour, we've got Dr. James H. Fetzer coming on, an expert on the Kennedy assassination.

00:55:40.000 You know, we just passed the 41st anniversary and I didn't really talk about it much.

00:55:44.000 I want to go back through this because it's so important.

00:55:47.000 In the third hour and then later, of course, obviously, our ArnoldExposed.com got picked up front page cover story in USA Today.

00:55:59.000 And it's a lavish article, whitewashing for Arnold, but it's the best one I've seen mainstream.

00:56:05.000 That's how bad these articles are.

00:56:06.000 This is the best article I've seen yet.

00:56:10.000 And it's horrible.

00:56:12.000 But it's the best article I've seen yet.

00:56:14.000 The fairest.

00:56:16.000 But again, it's like if you're wallowing in a latrine and then you just jump into a cesspool, the cesspool seems better than the latrine.

00:56:25.000 But, that's a horrible analogy, but you get what I'm saying, and I do want to read some quotes out of this.

00:56:32.000 I don't want to spend all day on it.

00:56:34.000 I don't have much time anyway, so we'll get to that later.

00:56:37.000 There's just so much other news here.

00:56:39.000 This country is being dismantled, and I wish we had the phone lines.

00:56:43.000 Perhaps on Monday we'll be able to talk about that. 0.76

00:56:45.000 Tom Brokaw piece, where, oh yeah, you break any rule, we kill you.

00:56:48.000 Oh, that's freedom.

00:56:49.000 Man, that's liberation.

00:56:50.000 That's just wonderful.

00:56:55.000 Unbelievable.

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00:58:44.000 Alright, we'll start in the second hour and talk about the microchips and how much fun they are under your skin.

00:58:51.000 Hello, folks.

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00:59:13.000 In the early months of 2004, I interviewed one of the European distributors for Applied Digital Solutions, Verichip, out of the Baja Beach Club over in Spain.

00:59:31.000 They've also now opened them in Rotterdam and in England.

00:59:36.000 I believe it's London.

00:59:37.000 We broke some major news there because that hadn't been in the U.S.

00:59:40.000 newspapers and months later it all came out.

00:59:42.000 Very interesting about implantable chips under the skin to get into the VIP area with all the lovely ladies and for the women all the handsome bartenders. 0.95

00:59:52.000 You know, these are kind of those Upscale clubs and then a lot of TV shows like CSI Miami and others.

00:59:58.000 Oh, everybody's getting the chip in Miami, you know the at the cool clubs and then Reality imitates art and art imitates reality Now we have a club in Florida that's doing this and we're honored to be joined by Kenneth Percy the owner of Amica loft and It's a pleasure to be on your show.

01:00:20.000 Beach, Miami, I believe, and then we have the distributor for it, Mark Barsh, with Metro Risk.

01:00:27.000 I'm just incredibly honored to have these gentlemen on.

01:00:31.000 I know they're very busy right now, getting a lot of attention.

01:00:33.000 Good to have you on, Kenneth and Mark.

01:00:35.000 It's a pleasure to be on your show.

01:00:38.000 Same here.

01:00:39.000 Who is Kenneth?

01:00:41.000 Kenneth is right here.

01:00:42.000 Alright, and the other is Mark.

01:00:44.000 Just first off, we're about to break and then come back after the news.

01:00:47.000 We have a lot of stations that join us, but just each of you tell us, first Kenneth and then Mark, tell us in a nutshell who you are and what you're up to.

01:00:55.000 My name is Kenneth Percy and I'm one of the owners of the Amica nightclub down in South Beach.

01:01:04.000 And we're incredibly excited to have this new technology It's going to make the VIP issues practically go away.

01:01:14.000 All right, VIP issues.

01:01:16.000 Mark, with Metro Risk, how are you involved?

01:01:21.000 Well, we started originally... I am the president of Metro Risk Management.

01:01:25.000 We handle the distribution of the product worldwide.

01:01:30.000 We started with trials in Baja Beach, Spain.

01:01:35.000 I noticed you mentioned it earlier.

01:01:38.000 Everything went well there.

01:01:39.000 Yeah, we were the first U.S.

01:01:41.000 outlet to report on that.

01:01:44.000 The Baja Beach, Spain was more of a trial.

01:01:47.000 We went full-blown with the Club Amica due to the fact that before we even do anything in the United States, we wanted to try how it would work.

01:01:56.000 Another place, Spain being a very hot place for nightclubs, we decided to proceed with Baja Beach.

01:02:02.000 Everything went well, so now we hooked up with Well, I want one of these!

01:02:07.000 in South Beach, Miami, Amica.

01:02:09.000 And as far as my understanding goes, everything is going well.

01:02:14.000 I couldn't be able to tell you more about how the progress is going if it's only been about a week.

01:02:22.000 But as far as my understanding goes, it's...

01:02:24.000 Well, I want one of these.

01:02:26.000 How do I get one?

01:02:27.000 Well, number one, you can either go to Amica Nightclub.

01:02:32.000 They'll put you on the list, and they'll start finding the proper place to have you directed to a local clinic, what we call chipping centers, and you'll be able to get one injected. 0.82

01:02:43.000 And from that point on... I love their little trademarked logo tagline, Get Chipped Today!

01:02:51.000 What do you mean by that?

01:02:52.000 Well, no, I mean, that's what Applied Digital has, they also have the Chipmobiles.

01:02:56.000 Yeah, they have the tripmobiles, which we were going to have at the club due to mechanical factors.

01:03:02.000 We couldn't do it last Friday.

01:03:03.000 But yes, the tripmobile is a place like no other.

01:03:06.000 Your average blood drive where you'd be able to walk in an RV and donate blood, it works on the same principle, yes.

01:03:12.000 Well, gentlemen, we're about to break and we'll come back with a 15-minute segment and that's all I'll keep you.

01:03:17.000 I know you're very busy.

01:03:18.000 We'll be back in three minutes and I just want to talk about why you decided to do this and what Metro Risk is doing.

01:03:25.000 I also want to talk to Kenneth Percy, one of the owners.

01:03:30.000 It's Amica is the name of the club?

01:03:32.000 Amica.

01:03:34.000 I think I've heard of that club.

01:03:35.000 That's one of the hottest clubs in South Beach, isn't it?

01:03:38.000 Oh, anybody driving down Washington Avenue on Fridays, Saturdays, or even Sundays will see the long lines outside.

01:03:44.000 That's what we're hoping to take care of.

01:03:46.000 Absolutely amazing.

01:03:48.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

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01:07:16.000 Wow, this is a riveting interview, folks.

01:07:19.000 We're talking to Kenneth Percy, owner of Amica Well, it's an incredibly exciting opportunity to be on the cutting edge of technology.

01:07:28.000 and then, of course, Mark Barsh, who is with Metro Risk.

01:07:33.000 And let's go first to Kenneth.

01:07:36.000 Kenneth, why did you decide to be the first club, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, in the U.S. to start the shipping centers for your VIPs?

01:07:46.000 Well, it's an incredibly exciting opportunity to be on the cutting edge of technology.

01:07:51.000 You have to understand, when a VIP comes to your club, he doesn't want to spend the time that others would spend online, getting out his credit card, proving who he is, giving up the financial information every single time he comes in.

01:08:06.000 With this brand new chip, he's in and out a couple of minutes, we have all the information that we need, and he's treated like the VIP that he is.

01:08:17.000 Amazing!

01:08:18.000 And then I was talking to Mark with Metro Risk Mark Barsh.

01:08:24.000 Mark, exactly what is your position in Metro Risk?

01:08:29.000 I am the president and founder of Metro Risk.

01:08:31.000 Tell us about Metro Risk and how you were a distributor for Applied Digital.

01:08:38.000 Metro Risk is a risk control agency.

01:08:41.000 I would say post 9-11 agency that specializes in mitigating loss and And all the problems that companies in, say, Latin America may encounter, such as kidnapping of executives, we specialize in the negotiation of the release factor and things of that nature.

01:09:01.000 The VeriChip was a natural... Excuse me?

01:09:04.000 No, go ahead.

01:09:05.000 The VeriChip was a natural... evolved into the product because of what its security ramifications are, due to the fact that it can not only be used for security, but as well as finance and many other applications it just happened to be bigger than what we originally had expected it to be where where we originally got involved in security now we're dealing with a hottest nightclub in Miami amica

01:09:30.000 tomorrow we're dealing with government agencies in Latin America to be able to implement today and their security structure Now, let me bring this up here, because during the break I had a chance to talk to both of you gentlemen, and I brought the question or the comment.

01:09:44.000 Are you aware that the Attorney General said to some of his employees, you know, you need to take this chip to get into secure areas in Mexico, and you said you were aware of that, Mark.

01:09:53.000 That was in the security area, though, and that you were going to be involved in Latin America, others picking up on this.

01:09:59.000 Can you tell us about that?

01:10:01.000 Again, the idea that we originally had in Metro Risk is always find little niches to be able to try out the system.

01:10:11.000 Much like we did with the Baja Beach nightclub in Spain, our counterparts in Mexico found the Attorney General in Mexico.

01:10:20.000 But the main goal is to be able to implement it again for security areas here in the United States.

01:10:26.000 And you have the chipmobiles, what areas of the country are the Verichip chipmobiles active and how many clinic chipping centers as you call them, how many chipping centers and how many chipmobiles?

01:10:41.000 Well, chipmobiles, keep in mind, the chipmobile right now was an effort from Applied Digital Uh, to be able to have a mobile shipping center.

01:10:50.000 As far as my understanding, that is an applied digital asset.

01:10:55.000 My understanding, I think they only have one.

01:10:57.000 I couldn't say that they have throughout the United States.

01:11:00.000 They reported that they had shipping centers already in different areas of the country.

01:11:05.000 Yes, we're already negotiating with different hospitals throughout the country.

01:11:08.000 We have a business model of, my understanding of donating close to about 200 scanners through emergency rooms throughout the country.

01:11:17.000 We've only had FDA approval for medical purposes, I would say, the last 30 days.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, the FDA a few months ago approved it.

01:11:24.000 So we're moving cautiously, taking one step at a time, building this, because for medical applications it's a lot different than, for example, financial or nightclubs.

01:11:34.000 So we're already talking, we're already implementing the technology throughout the country at actually hospital clinics would be our second approach on it.

01:11:42.000 Right now, the only way we're proceeding is with hospitals.

01:11:45.000 I couldn't give you the exact number, but I can tell you that...

01:11:48.000 The fastest moving states would be Florida, New York, and California.

01:11:52.000 I have a cousin who's in special forces.

01:11:55.000 He's an officer, been in 18 years, now 19 years, and he told me that they were told two years ago that they were all going to be getting chips soon, and then I've also confirmed from sources that in a covert operation, already a lot of the special forces have gotten chips.

01:12:11.000 Were you aware of that?

01:12:13.000 I couldn't comment anything about that.

01:12:15.000 I am not aware of anything like that.

01:12:17.000 Now is it you can either confirm or deny or you're not aware of it?

01:12:20.000 I'm not aware of it.

01:12:23.000 Now you say there's different groups who are distributors for this.

01:12:28.000 You are a main distributor in what facet for Verichip?

01:12:33.000 Our position with Verichip is we're the largest distributor for the manufacturer of the product.

01:12:41.000 Everybody else Pretty much is following pace to what we do.

01:12:45.000 And the chip is manufactured, correct, in a factory outside Beijing?

01:12:50.000 My understanding of that is incorrect.

01:12:53.000 Oh, really?

01:12:54.000 Where are they manufactured?

01:12:56.000 They're actually manufactured in FB approved facilities and I believe there's a manufacturer, I believe it's Ryden, which is in Spain.

01:13:06.000 Okay, because in a Apply Digital press release a year ago, and we have this on our website, they said they were building a plant in Beijing.

01:13:16.000 I'm just curious.

01:13:17.000 Well, keep in mind this was about a year ago maybe.

01:13:20.000 My understanding of it today, that information is not correct, but then again I may not be... Oh, but you had heard that too though?

01:13:30.000 No.

01:13:30.000 Oh, you never heard that.

01:13:32.000 I've got a question here for Kenneth Percy, one of the owners of Amica, one of the hottest clubs there in South Beach, Miami.

01:13:41.000 Kenneth, how did you find out about this?

01:13:44.000 How did you decide to do this?

01:13:46.000 Well, actually, we were approached by Mark and he said, listen, he's got an agency and he'd love to put it in our club.

01:13:54.000 And after we spoke to him about it, it's a natural fit.

01:13:57.000 I mean, it cuts down your transaction time, cuts down on the fraud.

01:14:03.000 That's down on the usual rigmarole that's associated with getting into a club that has three to four hundred people waiting to get in on the outside.

01:14:10.000 Did you know that with CSI Miami a month or so ago, they even had an episode where in Miami there's a nightclub where you get chips?

01:14:16.000 I was aware of that, actually.

01:14:18.000 Wow, it's, it's, man, it's like, I don't think I've ever seen this much news coverage on something.

01:14:24.000 Maybe on Arnold for President or something we've seen this much promotion, but it's just, it's just all over the place, so... It's a self-promoting product.

01:14:32.000 Yeah, when is the chipping going to start? 0.92

01:14:36.000 I understand we actually have people in line already today to get chipped.

01:14:41.000 Oh, the chipping is going on right now?

01:14:44.000 Well, it's going to be going on tonight.

01:14:47.000 So, if the media came down there to South Beach, there at the Amica Club and Lounge, they could cover the chipping going on?

01:15:01.000 Barring any mechanical difficulties with the chipmobile, as happened last week?

01:15:05.000 Absolutely.

01:15:06.000 Oh, there was a mechanical difficulty with the chipmobile?

01:15:09.000 A car breakdown.

01:15:11.000 I saw some video of it on the news.

01:15:13.000 It looks brand new and pretty fancy.

01:15:16.000 Listen, I can't comment on what happened, but I know that we had a mechanical breakdown with the chipmobile.

01:15:22.000 Why did you announce the time for people to come get it and there wasn't anybody there to get chips?

01:15:27.000 Uh, we had plenty of people actually waiting to get the technology.

01:15:30.000 How many lined up?

01:15:31.000 I'm curious.

01:15:32.000 Uh, that I spoke to, we had over a dozen.

01:15:34.000 Over a dozen people?

01:15:36.000 Now, now what's the VIP area like, uh, Kenneth?

01:15:39.000 I mean, what do I get when I get my chip?

01:15:43.000 It allows you to go upstairs without, basically pretty much without waiting in line, without getting picked from a line.

01:15:49.000 Because what, it's basically getting a pre-approval to be part of the VIP crowd.

01:15:54.000 You know, I had the, uh, It's basically having your clientele verified prior to them coming to the club.

01:16:03.000 I think it's a fantastic idea.

01:16:04.000 there in Spain and he said he saw a time in the future when you wouldn't be able to get in period without the chip.

01:16:11.000 It's basically having your clientele verified prior to them coming to the club.

01:16:16.000 So you see a time coming when you'll have to have the chip?

01:16:19.000 I think it's a fantastic idea.

01:16:21.000 You don't even have to carry your wallet anymore.

01:16:23.000 If you have this technology in your arm, if you have this chip in your arm, breeze right in, never worry about losing your credit cards, your wallet, having anything stolen.

01:16:32.000 What about people who say that, you know, this is Big Brother, or people who say this is the mark of the beast?

01:16:38.000 Don't forget, the information contained, or associated with the Verichip, is only that that you provide.

01:16:45.000 But then that number, when the government uses it, is connected to the database.

01:16:50.000 Sorry?

01:16:51.000 Well, I mean, any number, a driver's license number, a social security number, a chip number, can be then connected to any level of database.

01:16:57.000 It's no different than what exists now.

01:16:59.000 It's just a new form of the technology and associated information.

01:17:05.000 Well, that's... people are pretty excited about it.

01:17:10.000 Now, going back to Mark... Mark, the head of Metro Risk, What type of industry growth are you guys looking at here with this?

01:17:25.000 Let me put it this way.

01:17:26.000 We're extremely excited.

01:17:29.000 I couldn't give you a number because the potential for it in different areas is incredible.

01:17:35.000 Alzheimer's patients.

01:17:36.000 Did you see the Reuters article a couple years ago when they were going to do a contract with the Bureau of Presence in California for parolees, but for some reason that fell through.

01:17:43.000 Were you aware of that?

01:17:45.000 No.

01:17:47.000 I wasn't aware of that.

01:17:48.000 But we are aware for the medical industry, the United States is what we would consider our primary target.

01:17:56.000 Throughout the world, medical, security, finance, the ramifications down the road are just simply... I can't calculate the companies.

01:18:05.000 Well, I think Kenneth was saying it.

01:18:07.000 I mean, you're talking about no more wallets, no more nothing.

01:18:10.000 Yeah, I guess everybody will have the chip.

01:18:12.000 That's correct.

01:18:13.000 Well, the idea is this.

01:18:14.000 It is a voluntary device.

01:18:18.000 It's not meant to be forced upon anybody.

01:18:20.000 But the uses of the device go, for example, you're walking down the street, you have your credit card, you can leave your house with just your, a female can just leave her house with her lipstick just to look beautiful. 0.65

01:18:30.000 She doesn't have to worry about a credit card.

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01:18:33.000 Tell you what, stay there.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, and everything's going to RFID.

01:18:36.000 It could just be scanned at the gas pump or at McDonald's, wherever.

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01:22:53.000 All right, my friends, we're talking to Kenneth Percy, one of the owners of the Amica Loft and, I guess, Clubhouse Lounge, one of the biggest and most popular party spots there in South Beach, Miami.

01:23:08.000 And of course, Mark Barsch, he is the president of Metro Risk.

01:23:14.000 And gentlemen, there's just too much to talk about here.

01:23:16.000 If I can keep you about another 15 minutes, that would just be fabulous.

01:23:20.000 Can we do that?

01:23:21.000 Absolutely.

01:23:22.000 Can both of you give me your websites?

01:23:25.000 Sure.

01:23:26.000 For the Amica Loft Lounge and Discotheque, it's www.amicamiami.com.

01:23:32.000 A-M-I-K-A. 1.00

01:23:36.000 amiaami.com all right and uh...

01:23:40.000 then what about for metro risk met for it to be at w_w_w_ dot metro risk and the american area to the george dot com okay gentlemen i've got a lady coming on right now and with our phone problems that we'll see how this works She's Catherine Albrecht, she's with Caspian, expert there at Harvard right now, on the cards, on the chips, on the RFID, and she's got a couple questions for you on this subject.

01:24:08.000 Catherine Albrecht, you're on the air, of course, from nocards.org with our two guests who've been kind enough to come on with us.

01:24:16.000 Thanks for joining us, Catherine.

01:24:17.000 You've got questions for them, they've got answers.

01:24:19.000 Go ahead. - Hey Alex, hi Kenneth, hi Mark.

01:24:22.000 Quick question actually for both of you.

01:24:25.000 I'm wondering what sort of waiver forms you've been given by the folks that apply digital solutions that have to be signed by people who are about to be chipped, I guess this evening. - I haven't given any forms. - Is that Kenneth answering there?

01:24:40.000 Yes.

01:24:40.000 Okay, so now do they come out and do the chipping themselves or you're just providing the facilities and then the Applied Digital folks do the chipping?

01:24:47.000 Actually, I'm basically providing an outlet for people to know about it and to use it in a real setting.

01:24:55.000 And are they actually sending out a clinician or someone in a white lab coat to do the chipping right there in front of your crowd tonight?

01:25:03.000 I don't think it would be in front of the crowd.

01:25:05.000 If anything, it would have to be in the chipmobile.

01:25:08.000 Okay, because I know in some of the photographs that I've seen from the Baja Beach Clubs, both in Spain and of course in the Netherlands, it looks like it's kind of a sort of a big ringside show there with everybody getting chipped in front of the crowd.

01:25:20.000 So, yeah, and then the question, let me direct that to you, Mark, are you familiar with any kind of waiver or form that has to be signed before people take the chip?

01:25:30.000 Absolutely.

01:25:31.000 Each person who's getting chipped has to The process of getting chipped is not a complex one, but there's certain steps.

01:25:40.000 For example, there's a form that needs to be filled out with the personal information.

01:25:44.000 Then we, what we do is at a second stage, we validate that information, the basic stuff, such as name, address, or security.

01:25:51.000 And that's connected to the info number on there, so they know who you are.

01:25:54.000 But, Catherine, you had specific questions about an MRI.

01:25:57.000 Well, actually, yeah, I had a couple questions.

01:25:59.000 One, you're linking it up with the information, obviously, so that they can make their payments using the device.

01:26:04.000 Am I right there?

01:26:05.000 That's correct.

01:26:06.000 Okay.

01:26:06.000 And then the other piece was just in terms of some of the medical risks associated with taking this device, which according to the FDA, when they approved this device on October 12th, those risks included, for example, an incompatibility with an MRI or a Magnetic Resonance Imaging Machine.

01:26:23.000 At the time, we're considering a non... How about it?

01:26:28.000 It's not meant to be used for somebody who at the moment is going to be getting an MRI.

01:26:33.000 So it's non-compliant with MRI.

01:26:34.000 That's correct.

01:26:35.000 Okay, so I guess these folks who are getting these implants may actually have to wear medical alert bracelets of some sort.

01:26:42.000 Tell me what the FDA says happens when you have one of these in you and you go under a magnetic resonance machine.

01:26:48.000 Well, we actually found a letter from the FDA to the folks at Applied Digital and Digital Angel about this device and essentially they had a whole host of health problems.

01:26:57.000 One of them, people don't realize an MRI machine is a very powerful magnet.

01:27:02.000 And it also creates a very powerful radio frequency field.

01:27:05.000 So for both of those reasons, this is incompatible because the VeriChip has a ferrous or an iron-based core.

01:27:12.000 And if you go inside of an MRI machine, there's some speculation that the MRI may actually suck the device right out of the patient, or out of, I guess it would be a patient inside of an MRI machine.

01:27:21.000 Also, migration of the chip.

01:27:23.000 They admit that there can be migration of it.

01:27:26.000 Gentlemen, are people being told about migration of the chip?

01:27:29.000 Negative.

01:27:30.000 There can't be no migration because there is a chemical device, I mean a chemical that's called BioBond.

01:27:34.000 It works with scar tissue, wherever it gets injected into the body.

01:27:38.000 It's got little kind of barbs on it.

01:27:40.000 Uh, no.

01:27:41.000 It looks like a little glue.

01:27:42.000 What happens is... I mean, microscopically, I think I saw a blow-up of it.

01:27:46.000 It's like a little... like Kuckelberg.

01:27:48.000 It has a little abrasive areas to hook into the flesh. 0.87

01:27:52.000 No, no.

01:27:52.000 That's wrong?

01:27:53.000 Okay, explain it to me.

01:27:55.000 It's a chemical coating.

01:27:57.000 And it... you would look... it looks a little bit like wax.

01:28:01.000 On one of the ends of the chip.

01:28:03.000 It's a polypropylene, if I can jump in.

01:28:05.000 Yeah, it's a polypropylene coating.

01:28:07.000 That is correct.

01:28:08.000 We have a picture of it up on our website at spychips.com if you want to take a look.

01:28:11.000 You can see it does look quite a bit like wax.

01:28:14.000 That's correct.

01:28:15.000 And what happens is once injected, it works as scar tissue and it prevents it from moving anywhere in the body.

01:28:20.000 Tell you what, ten more minutes with you gentlemen and with you Catherine.

01:28:22.000 Stay there please.

01:28:23.000 This is riveting information for people.

01:28:26.000 Just want to cover all the facets of this and then we'll discuss it.

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01:31:49.000 I remember eight years ago, getting army documents with a plan to chip the entire population.

01:32:07.000 And then back in 2000, even having it on their main website, linking to army.mil, and people still couldn't believe it.

01:32:13.000 Then my cousin two years ago told me they'd all been told that within the next few years, and now we've reached that point, they'd be getting chips.

01:32:20.000 And after 9-11, the wall-to-wall promotion, the family in Florida getting the chips, and Now in Mexico, and we're just talking to Mark Barsh with Metro Risk, just one of the companies globally out distributing.

01:32:34.000 He's talking to all these Latin American countries about going with this.

01:32:38.000 They've had Brazilian politicians take the chip, even before Mexican ones did it.

01:32:43.000 There's talk in Italy about this happening.

01:32:46.000 Meanwhile, we have Arnold Schwarzenegger and all these other governors promoting satellite trackers or transponders in the cars to track us everywhere we go.

01:32:54.000 There's a proliferation of this, and we talked to Kenneth Percy, one of the owners of Amica Club there in Miami, and he said, yeah, I see a time when you'll need this to get into the club, period.

01:33:07.000 That's what the other club manager said from Spain.

01:33:12.000 And so we see where all of this is trending and going.

01:33:15.000 I mean, if somebody wants to go stick one of these in themselves, biometric face scanner thumbprint does the same thing that's their business and I see those is just as dangerous uh...

01:33:26.000 but uh...

01:33:27.000 just this pell-mell push by the media all positive about it but in major polls ninety plus percent of people are firmly against it uh...

01:33:35.000 gentlemen you have any comments what i just said it's an individual thing somebody wants it it's just purely for convenience as far as the nightlife industry concerned as far as Yeah, but if you want to be in the military, you'll have to have it.

01:33:48.000 Or if you want to work at the Mexican Consulate, or if you want to work in the CIA, you'll have to have it.

01:33:54.000 I mean, we already see the government saying, yeah, you don't have to have a job.

01:33:58.000 You don't have to have a license, but we need a license for you to have a job.

01:34:01.000 We'll see the next step is the chip.

01:34:03.000 I think they're taking it to the extreme.

01:34:05.000 To the extreme.

01:34:07.000 I think having people being implanted with chips into nightclubs is extreme.

01:34:12.000 One would hope.

01:34:13.000 One would hope.

01:34:16.000 One would hope it was extreme?

01:34:17.000 Sure.

01:34:18.000 Absolutely.

01:34:19.000 Don't forget, we're in the entertainment industry.

01:34:22.000 And actually, it's a pure benefit for your VIP clientele who don't feel like carrying around a wallet.

01:34:28.000 Or their credit cards or any ID for that matter.

01:34:30.000 So it's like something different.

01:34:31.000 Absolutely.

01:34:32.000 Yeah, but they go in and the scanner's got to come over and scan them and check it like you're a toaster on the shelf at Walmart.

01:34:40.000 With an RFID sticker on it.

01:34:41.000 It would happen at the point of sale anyway.

01:34:45.000 So rather than giving your credit card to the bartender, you just put out your arm or put out your shoulder and you get a second scan.

01:34:55.000 You know, first the Associated Press reported 100, then 300, then 1,000.

01:34:59.000 Had gotten it down in Mexico.

01:35:01.000 You've gotten information that that's not true.

01:35:04.000 We know Verichip first claimed they had all these hospitals taking their readers.

01:35:08.000 Turned out, that was two years ago, that that wasn't the case.

01:35:11.000 Now, they said they got the Mexicans to take them. 0.99

01:35:14.000 But you got some different numbers.

01:35:15.000 It's not 300 or 1,000.

01:35:17.000 What's the number you got?

01:35:18.000 It's actually 18 members of the Attorney General's staff in Mexico that have been shipped.

01:35:22.000 That's incorrect.

01:35:23.000 Yeah.

01:35:25.000 But I can pull up 100 stories that said 300 and even higher.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, in fact, USA Today, The Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, all of the major media got it wrong.

01:35:37.000 Including myself, but we issued a press release a few months back and just parroted the number we've been given, which was 160.

01:35:43.000 And the AP and others said they got that from Apply Digital.

01:35:46.000 Apply Digital also, a couple years ago, I had their CEO on, I had their Chief Scientist on four years ago.

01:35:52.000 They said that they had all these hospitals taking it, but where are the hospitals with the readers?

01:35:58.000 They called the hospitals One of the Miami Papers, didn't they say, we don't have those readers?

01:36:04.000 They got sued in a class action suit by their investors for that, by the way, Alex, and in fact they had to settle to the tune of millions of dollars because they were accused of fraudulently misrepresenting their marketing efforts.

01:36:15.000 Now I know we've got a distributor and a club owner doing this, I wouldn't even connect them to that, but you guys are just distributors, or one of you is a consumer, one of you is a distributor, were you aware of all that?

01:36:25.000 Not at all.

01:36:27.000 We were aware of Several of the points that have been mentioned, but keep in mind that that is internally with ADS.

01:36:35.000 Metro Risk is an independent company, and MECA is an independent company.

01:36:39.000 No, no, we're making that clear.

01:36:40.000 I'm just saying, we all saw the news, 150, 300, 1000 got the chip, and this information, you know, is coming from quarters that, again, said all these hospitals had it.

01:36:52.000 Well, if you ask me, you have to take into consideration several factors.

01:36:57.000 For example, let's take the comments from the Attorney General in Mexico.

01:37:00.000 At one point in time, I was only impressed that it was 160 also.

01:37:03.000 Yeah, there were quotes by him, so why is he doing that?

01:37:07.000 My understanding is that it was a project meant to chip 160.

01:37:10.000 Again, this is what my understanding goes.

01:37:13.000 The amount of people at the time right now is only 18, and she's absolutely correct. 1.00

01:37:18.000 But they were on the news going, you don't get in the building in the secure area unless you have this.

01:37:23.000 With people going, well, I guess I'll do it then.

01:37:25.000 I mean, that isn't forced chipping.

01:37:28.000 That wasn't the only exaggeration at the point.

01:37:30.000 At the point, as a matter of fact, you guys are even forgetting that the gentleman not only said that you need the chip to get into the place, but you could also track them through GPS, which is absolutely not true.

01:37:40.000 Well, they could with a high-powered reader boosting the satellite at ground-based level.

01:37:45.000 I don't know about that.

01:37:48.000 In my experience, the technology lends itself not only to save lives and be a great product, but also to be exaggerated.

01:37:57.000 But the Pentagon's coming out with smart dust that can be read by satellite.

01:38:03.000 Yes, radioactive equipment.

01:38:06.000 It's not that they're just coming out with something that's been out, but if you ask me, in reference to the exaggerations out there with numbers, let it be how many hospitals at the time.

01:38:18.000 I can only tell you the numbers in which Metro Risk has been involved.

01:38:21.000 I can only tell you the different projects... Okay, how many people has Metro Risk chipped?

01:38:28.000 Right now, as a matter of fact, in the United States, we haven't shipped anybody.

01:38:31.000 That's what I mean.

01:38:32.000 This is just ongoing.

01:38:33.000 All these different companies, just year after year, chip, chip, chip, chip, chip, chip, chip.

01:38:37.000 But I look at the numbers, it looks like a lot of people don't want, it's not like people are beating down the doors.

01:38:42.000 Negative.

01:38:43.000 We do have a large amount of people who are interested.

01:38:45.000 Well, I know you're new in this.

01:38:47.000 I'm talking about the other people.

01:38:48.000 Well, I've been at this for about a year and a half.

01:38:50.000 And the only thing is that in the United States, because of its society and because of the all-potential lawsuits, we have to proceed with certain caution.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, you just got FDA approval.

01:39:01.000 Exactly.

01:39:01.000 Amica Dean, D-Top, Nightclub, we have to proceed with certain caution.

01:39:05.000 For example, we're not going to get anybody chipped in the back or in such a circus way like they did in Baja Beach in Spain, even though it was a project that we undertook.

01:39:15.000 We have the control of what was happening at the hospital.

01:39:18.000 The reason why we had to take it with amicus is because it could be done much better and in the proper way.

01:39:22.000 Okay, Mark, any comments from Kenneth?

01:39:25.000 Do you want to say anything here, or Catherine?

01:39:27.000 I mean, this is still a quasi-medical procedure, and it's still voluntary, and it's done from the nightlife point of view, purely as an added value to make your experience easier.

01:39:27.000 Well, I agree 100%.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, what it is, is you've got the trendies, They don't know their head from a hole in the ground.

01:39:47.000 I just saw this on CSI Miami.

01:39:49.000 And so now they're going to feel like ultra elitists because they got this.

01:39:52.000 Oh, that and you don't have to turn your wallet, though, to get a better clientele than that.

01:39:56.000 So if you ask me, no, that wouldn't apply in Amica.

01:40:00.000 But you guys, I mean, these folks, I mean, to me, there is no way I'm ever taking a chip.

01:40:07.000 And that's my opinion, that somebody doesn't know their head from a hole in the ground, and they'll take one of these chips.

01:40:13.000 Well, how about somebody who has Alzheimer's?

01:40:16.000 How about somebody who legitimately has a need?

01:40:17.000 How about somebody with diabetes who's under constant medical attention?

01:40:21.000 Can I jump in and respond to that?

01:40:23.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:40:24.000 And actually, Kenneth, this is information that these folks may not have shared with you before you agreed to allow your students to be tested.

01:40:30.000 You just made my point, though, Catherine.

01:40:32.000 Go ahead and make your point, Catherine.

01:40:32.000 Sorry.

01:40:34.000 Sure.

01:40:34.000 This is from the FDA letter that was issued on October 12th, the same day that they gave the approval of this device for medical purposes.

01:40:41.000 It says, the potential risk And the groups know where these chips are going, the two implant areas.

01:40:45.000 What's to stop a kidnapper from grabbing it out and using it?

01:40:48.000 compromised information security, failure of implanted transponder, failure of inserter, failure of electronic scanner, electromagnetic interference, electrical hazards, MRI incompatibility, and needle stick.

01:41:01.000 Yeah, and the groups know where these chips are going, the two implant areas.

01:41:04.000 What's to stop a kidnapper from grabbing it out and using it?

01:41:07.000 From gouging it out and using it?

01:41:10.000 Pretty macabre if you ask me.

01:41:14.000 Pardon me?

01:41:15.000 Pretty macabre if you ask me.

01:41:16.000 Well, that's what kidnappers are.

01:41:18.000 They are macabre.

01:41:19.000 Yeah, but that has nothing to do with going to a nightclub in Miami Beach.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, but as this proliferates... I mean, Mark, you were saying for kidnappings and security issues in Latin America, where it's obviously a real threat... That's the problem with... Let me stop you.

01:41:34.000 That's the problem with the thumb scanner.

01:41:36.000 They just cut somebody's thumb off, they got it.

01:41:39.000 We've had security experts look at all this biometrics and stuff.

01:41:42.000 This is actually worse.

01:41:45.000 I don't agree.

01:41:47.000 What about people having a reader that can just scan you and get your code?

01:41:53.000 It doesn't work that way.

01:41:54.000 The code just doesn't do anything unless you have access to the database.

01:41:59.000 Catherine, do you have any comments to this?

01:42:01.000 You were telling me during our break that Applied Digital, I haven't seen this but I'm sure you have if you're saying it, that Applied Digital is claiming that you can't extract this and use it.

01:42:11.000 Yeah, you know it's interesting.

01:42:12.000 I've done several radio interviews with Applied Digital and television interviews as well.

01:42:17.000 One of the things that they've said is that, oh well don't worry if it's removed from the person's body it will no longer function.

01:42:22.000 Mark, do you have any comments to that?

01:42:25.000 The chip is, of course, it's obvious it's going to function, because I mean, by removing it from the body, it doesn't necessarily mean that the device is disabled.

01:42:33.000 How honest of you!

01:42:34.000 Thank you!

01:42:35.000 This is the executive at Apply Digital saying that.

01:42:39.000 Perhaps what they mean is, and then again, my experience with the media is, one, there's always two ways to look at things.

01:42:45.000 Yes, somebody gets extracted, the chip gets extracted from somebody's arm, and what happens is it also gets deactivated from the database.

01:42:52.000 So, yes, by simple... If the person tells them.

01:42:57.000 No, I mean by simple... Well, yes.

01:42:59.000 Say you get it removed without applied digital knowing, then we've got to grant the possibility of something happening for the simple fact that... Well, the kidnappers aren't going to call up and go, hey, I took the chip out of her arm!

01:43:12.000 Well, the other thing that's interesting, I got an email from a gentleman in Scandinavia.

01:43:19.000 Who is an engineer who works for one of their big telephone companies up there, an electrical engineer, and he said, you know, these folks at Applied Digital are really snowing you.

01:43:29.000 He said, I could take a handheld reader device, capture the number off of any VeriChip implant, and within a period of a day, I could have an army of that identical number available to chip and implant into other people.

01:43:42.000 Why hasn't he done it?

01:43:44.000 What?

01:43:44.000 He doesn't really have an incentive.

01:43:45.000 Well, it's simple.

01:43:46.000 It's like I could scan a barcode and duplicate the barcode.

01:43:49.000 I've heard so many people say they can do so many things.

01:43:52.000 But the reality is... Wait a minute.

01:43:53.000 I mean, the resident's code number can be scanned and read and then duplicated in the tiny transceiver.

01:44:00.000 These chips are programmable.

01:44:01.000 So why couldn't they do that?

01:44:03.000 One thing is... Let me just explain something.

01:44:05.000 You guys are looking at the chip as the problem.

01:44:07.000 But the chip is just one factor.

01:44:10.000 And a group of... It's part of a security system, per se.

01:44:14.000 For example, the chip inside a person just merely identifies that person with a number, but it doesn't have any medical or any credit card information on the chip.

01:44:22.000 But that's what the company's saying they want to develop it into!

01:44:24.000 Financial, medical, security...

01:44:28.000 The chip, again, is for identification.

01:44:30.000 If I want to go into Kenneth's nightclub and charge up a bunch of liquor, all I would have to do would be scan one of his chipped patrons, duplicate one of their chips, put it in my own arm, and then I could go in and run up that person's bar tab. 0.99

01:44:43.000 Yeah, you'd still have to find, with all due respect, you'd still have to find a tab and a bill.

01:44:49.000 This is pointless!

01:44:54.000 Why can't I just swipe my debit card, bang my pin in there, it's got my picture on it.

01:44:59.000 You see, all this chipping makes all the other Big Brother stuff look okay.

01:45:03.000 Face scanning, thumb scanning, ID cards.

01:45:06.000 Catherine, isn't that what this is really all about?

01:45:07.000 Why the media and the government keeps pushing it?

01:45:10.000 I will say that there's a lot of people with a lot of interest in being able to track people all the time and this would certainly be one way to do it.

01:45:16.000 We can track you already as it is right now.

01:45:18.000 Yeah, but just because we can track, that's what I'm saying.

01:45:21.000 All the other stuff is bad too.

01:45:22.000 I'm just not knocking the chip.

01:45:24.000 I'm sorry, but everybody I know carries around a cell number with a cell phone with them.

01:45:28.000 They can be tracked that way.

01:45:29.000 That's right.

01:45:30.000 It just has to be a proximity device.

01:45:32.000 In order for it to work.

01:45:34.000 We got a problem.

01:45:34.000 Exactly.

01:45:35.000 We got a problem.

01:45:36.000 We're too tracked.

01:45:37.000 We're big brother land and it's getting worse.

01:45:40.000 The main thing I want to get to the bottom of here, since we've got Kenneth on the phone and he's been kind enough to talk to us about this, is really are you concerned that one of your patrons might wind up down the road needing an MRI and being unable to get one because they have this device in their flesh?

01:45:56.000 It'd be no different than somebody having an artificial hip or an artificial knee.

01:46:01.000 What if they're in a big car wreck?

01:46:04.000 What if they're in a big car wreck and then they go in and they're doing an MRI and they don't know that that chip's in there?

01:46:11.000 With all due respect... Well, if it isn't a problem, Kenneth, why'd the FDA say it was a problem?

01:46:16.000 I can't comment on whether the FDA would say anything.

01:46:17.000 No, but the FDA... It'd be no different than having any other kind of medical device implanted in you.

01:46:22.000 But you're not implanting this in people as a medical device, you're implanting it in them as a way to pay for their drinks.

01:46:28.000 Actually, without implanting anything, what we are doing is giving people the avenue of using that chip in a different kind of way.

01:46:35.000 But an artificial hip I might need in order to walk, a chip, I could just as easily scan my credit card.

01:46:41.000 I guess the real question is are people aware of the risk that they're running and are people at 21 or 22 really thinking long term about their need for future medical care and are they really thinking long term about whether this is going to be incompatible with an MRI and then how are they going to get the darn thing out again when they need that MRI down the road?

01:46:59.000 The same way they put it back in.

01:47:00.000 It's really not that difficult to get it out.

01:47:02.000 You mean the needle injector can also be used as an extractor?

01:47:06.000 It's just for a medical procedure.

01:47:06.000 Negative.

01:47:08.000 Yes, an actual opening.

01:47:13.000 You're going to have to do an incision and then open the flaps to get into the subcutaneous layer.

01:47:21.000 Are you familiar with anyone ever having had one of these extracted from their flesh?

01:47:25.000 Yes.

01:47:26.000 Who was that?

01:47:27.000 Was that Mark?

01:47:29.000 And could you give us the details on that?

01:47:31.000 Of how it works?

01:47:32.000 As a matter of fact, just explain it right now.

01:47:35.000 It does, you have to get anesthetic, an incision has to be made, and then it just simply gets pulled out.

01:47:40.000 Mark, you're saying, hold on a second, this is important, and thank you for joining us.

01:47:45.000 Are you saying you had a chip removed?

01:47:47.000 No, I never said that.

01:47:48.000 Okay, well, I'm asking, okay, she was asking, do you know of someone, why did they have the chip removed?

01:47:54.000 Well, because we were migrating from one chip to another.

01:47:58.000 Um, there are several models of chips that are out there.

01:48:01.000 Ah, I'm getting an upgrade!

01:48:04.000 For identification, it's just a number.

01:48:08.000 Gentlemen, anything else you'd like to add?

01:48:10.000 Catherine, any other questions?

01:48:13.000 I'd like to add one quick thing.

01:48:14.000 The only thing I've been able to find about having a chip removed, and I'd love to find information about that if that's been published in any journals or anywhere that regular folks can find out about how difficult it is to remove it, but I do have a document here about chipping racehorses.

01:48:29.000 And of course we all know that the Verichip is essentially an animal chip that's being used for human purposes.

01:48:33.000 It's the same one they put in pets and dogs and racehorses.

01:48:36.000 And while they were able to inject it into the horses in the field, just standing out there, to remove it actually required a team of veterinary surgeons and a full veterinary theater.

01:48:45.000 And they put the horse under full anesthesia and even then had difficulty locating the chest.

01:48:50.000 Yeah, I worked for a large animal vet.

01:48:53.000 It just doesn't make sense.

01:48:55.000 You need a large scheme when you can just simply locate it with the reader, reduce it to a small amount, and just simply make an incision.

01:49:02.000 Come on, how many doctors do you think you need to do that?

01:49:04.000 Well, this thing had actually migrated, so in that case they had a tough time.

01:49:08.000 I worked for a high-level vet who did artificial insemination, embryo flushes, implantation, I mean in a laboratory when I was a teenager.

01:49:19.000 And let me just tell you, the chips back then, this is 15 years ago, the chips back then, they would read them before they put them in, and when they put them in that animal, there was never the idea that they'd be able to get that chip out.

01:49:38.000 Again, when it was 15 years ago.

01:49:39.000 Yeah.

01:49:43.000 Gentlemen, anything else?

01:49:44.000 It's been a pleasure being on your show.

01:49:47.000 Gentlemen, c'est la vie.

01:49:48.000 I hope you wake up and aren't part of this anymore.

01:49:50.000 Catherine, stay there please.

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01:55:27.000 Catherine Albrecht, I just want to keep you five minutes to the next hour if you can do it.

01:55:30.000 If you can't, I understand.

01:55:31.000 Give us your websites in a nutshell.

01:55:33.000 Tell us what you thought of that insane interview.

01:55:37.000 I'd be happy to stay on with you and your listeners, Alex.

01:55:40.000 Our website, spychips.com, S-P-Y-C-H-I-P-S.com, you'll see the latest bear chip information, including our world-exclusive breaking story on the fact that only 18 people in Mexico were chipped instead of the 160 widely reported... I saw articles that said 1,100!

01:55:58.000 Well, you know, I've been seeing 1,100 around the world.

01:56:01.000 I've seen 1,000 in Mexico.

01:56:03.000 You know, the real bottom line here is that these companies have a long history of lying to the public, lying to their investors.

01:56:09.000 If they got sued and lost over lying about the hospitals, why are they doing it again?

01:56:14.000 Well, and they're blaming their Mexican affiliate, their Mexican distributor.

01:56:18.000 They're saying they had nothing to do with it.

01:56:19.000 What I think is interesting, though, is you can go on our website at spychips.com.

01:56:22.000 You can click up this article, which is featured right on the very front page there.

01:56:26.000 And if you scroll down to the bottom, you can actually see a link to their website where they continue to carry articles from Business Week and other publications boasting about the $160.

01:56:34.000 And that's in their press section.

01:56:37.000 Of course, that information is there to impress investors so that they can get even more money flowing into their coffers.

01:56:43.000 Last time I checked, though, their stock wasn't doing too well.

01:56:46.000 Their stock actually took a huge bounce.

01:56:48.000 It went way up after the FDA announcement and of course after they were featured on a number of nationwide television programs.

01:56:55.000 I remember the last time a few years ago, though, when they did the public chipping of that family at Plunge, but I guess now it's going back up.

01:57:01.000 Yeah, I believe it went up 60% after the FDA approval.

01:57:06.000 So what, is it worth $4 now?

01:57:08.000 You know, I haven't been tracking it that closely, but yeah, it's somewhere in that range.

01:57:11.000 A few years ago, it was like $0.80 or something.

01:57:13.000 Well, they did what's called a reverse stock split, where 10 shares of stock turned into a single share of stock in order to keep it from being sort of the pathetic $0.35.

01:57:22.000 Big Brother.

01:57:22.000 They reversed it a while back.

01:57:24.000 Bottom line, they're selling it.

01:57:27.000 The people aren't biased.

01:57:28.000 They're just going to keep selling it.

01:57:29.000 Well, I think that's it.

01:57:30.000 And I think they realize that the folks they can get to do it are these nightclub goers. 1.00

01:57:34.000 These idiots, yeah. 1.00

01:57:36.000 They're going to push that for all the people. 1.00

01:57:37.000 But even though, that's less than 100 folks out there.

01:57:39.000 Catherine, stay there.

01:57:40.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.

01:57:41.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:51.000 Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:56.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Alright, in about seven and a half minutes, we'll be joined by Dr. James Fetzer, assassination science.

01:58:13.000 He's a professor, doctorate, and we'll be talking about the Kennedy assassination, 9-11.

01:58:20.000 The murder of Senator Wellstone.

01:58:23.000 And just a lot more for the last 52 minutes of the broadcast coming up here.

01:58:29.000 We're talking to Catherine Albrecht.

01:58:30.000 If you missed it last hour, boy did you miss it.

01:58:33.000 We have Kenneth Percy, owner of Amica Super Beach Club there in South Beach, where you get the microchip to get into the club.

01:58:40.000 And he said he sees a time when you'll have to have the chip, just like others who are pushing this.

01:58:45.000 And then Mark Barsh, the Metro Risk Group, out peddling this.

01:58:52.000 And Katherine Albrecht joins us.

01:58:54.000 She's got a few minutes left with her.

01:58:57.000 Just recapping the key points here about migration, MRIs, dangers, and then the Mexican government lied.

01:59:04.000 It wasn't thousands of people.

01:59:06.000 Well, let me tell you about these medical dangers because I've done quite a bit of research on MRIs.

01:59:11.000 The MRI machine has such a powerful magnet that people have been killed in the MRI machine when they flip the magnet on.

01:59:16.000 In one case, an oxygen tank flew across the room into the machine and killed and crushed the person in there.

01:59:21.000 In another case, a nurse simply opened the door to the MRI room with a pair of scissors in her hand.

01:59:25.000 It flew out of her hand into the MRI machine and stabbed the person who was in there.

01:59:30.000 So, the magnet is incredibly powerful.

01:59:32.000 Can't they also just make the chips explode?

01:59:34.000 Well, I don't know about that, but... No, I mean, like, if you put one in the microwave, it'll pop!

01:59:38.000 If you subjected someone to the right frequency of energy, sure, it would actually burn up.

01:59:38.000 Well, it would.

01:59:43.000 And, in fact, that's the other risk in the MRI machine is, first, that the magnet would suck the device out of your body, kind of like a reverse bullet, leaving a big, gaping wound in you.

01:59:53.000 The other risk is that it would heat up due to the electromagnetic radiation inside the MRI machine and essentially burn you from the inside out.

02:00:01.000 It would burn and then it would be contained.

02:00:03.000 The gases would expand and have a mini explosion.

02:00:05.000 Exactly.

02:00:06.000 And in fact, not just that, Alex, but our concern is that really anybody who regularly works around electromagnetic fields... And that's not just you!

02:00:15.000 That's the FDA.

02:00:16.000 The same FDA that covers up Vioxx.

02:00:19.000 I mean, they're for industry folks.

02:00:21.000 They're for all this.

02:00:22.000 They still approved it.

02:00:23.000 So it's probably even worse than what they're saying.

02:00:25.000 Well, and we've actually filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain all of the testing and documentation from the FDA as to what they know about the Verichip.

02:00:33.000 And by the way, if your listeners would like to get on our newsletter, we'll be posting that information when we get it.

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02:00:46.000 Alright, Catherine, the media is still not retracting.

02:00:51.000 I've seen articles this week.

02:00:53.000 Days after you brought this out, that it wasn't thousands or 300 or 168, they're still reporting all these different numbers.

02:01:01.000 And as you said, Verichip still promotes this on their website, despite the fact you, how did you confirm it was only 18 of the Attorney General's office in Mexico that did this?

02:01:12.000 Well Alex, in order to understand that, I come at this research working on a doctorate at Harvard University.

02:01:18.000 So I'm a researcher and I've been trained to always follow up the facts.

02:01:21.000 So I called down to Mexico.

02:01:22.000 I'm fluent in Spanish and I spoke directly to the Attorney General's office there.

02:01:26.000 And they sent me a transcript of an interview that one of their executives had done in which he states on three different occasions that it was just 18 people.

02:01:33.000 So I called back and I said, this doesn't sound like what I'm hearing.

02:01:36.000 And they confirmed that absolutely it was only 18 people in that office.

02:01:39.000 Now what I suspect may have happened Is that it was originally 160 people who were slated to get the chip and my guess is that they had a minor, you know, mutiny there.

02:01:50.000 Or that some people simply said, you know, I'm really not interested in getting a chip in my flesh.

02:01:54.000 That's pure conjecture.

02:01:55.000 I have no reason to think that other than I know if my boss came to me and said, take a chip, I'd probably say, no, I think I'd rather pass on that.

02:02:02.000 So they got 18 people chipped.

02:02:05.000 Maybe those were the only 18 who were willing to be chipped.

02:02:07.000 But bottom line, this is a pattern of, oh, dozens of hospitals have taken our readers up.

02:02:12.000 No one has.

02:02:13.000 Oh, everyone's getting the chip.

02:02:14.000 Thousands.

02:02:15.000 Oh, it's only a few.

02:02:16.000 Yeah.

02:02:17.000 Yeah, they've been involved in numerous scandalous legal entanglements over the years with Applied Digital Company, and they've really had problems.

02:02:25.000 And in fact, the day after the announcement was made, the FDA announcement, or within a day or so of that announcement of the approval, some of the principals in Applied Digital Angel actually sold their stock in the company.

02:02:38.000 Alright, Katherine Albert, SpyChips.com, thanks for joining us.

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02:06:22.000 We've got an incredible individual Dr. James H. Vetsner, of course, a professor, very highly accredited and very well researched, one of the premier experts on the Kennedy assassination, only got in for about 50 minutes today, and I guess it's kind of a fortuitous in a weird way that this happens maybe once or twice a year.

02:06:42.000 Our phone system's down today, so we can't take calls, so we'll be able to just have him, and we could have him on for three hours easily, but I just want to go over quickly the debunkers on the Kennedy assassination.

02:06:54.000 And then go over some of his 9-11 information that meshes with mine, and of course the murder of Senator Paul Wellstone that the doctor has covered extensively.

02:07:04.000 He's up in Minnesota.

02:07:06.000 But before we do that, this is such a big deal, I gotta spend a minute or two on it and focus on it.

02:07:14.000 It's on PrisonPlanet.com.

02:07:16.000 Only you can make this a big story.

02:07:19.000 If you go get it, email it out to everybody and say, hey, post this on your site.

02:07:23.000 A caller called yesterday, I've confirmed with NBC and with others that saw it, this is indeed Tom Brokaw, when he signed off two nights ago, interviewing minutes before he signed off for his last night anchoring the NBC Nightly News, that anybody who breaks any rules, who leaves the area around their house, and who doesn't take an ID card with a retina scan or a thumb scan will be killed.

02:07:51.000 This is total siege.

02:07:52.000 This is what the Nazis did in the Warsaw ghettos. 0.57

02:07:57.000 This will not win the war, by the way.

02:07:59.000 And this is what the Marines have been trying to do here.

02:08:01.000 I have video of it.

02:08:03.000 As they did drills in Oakland, California in 99.

02:08:06.000 In Police State 2000.

02:08:08.000 Where the role players said, I'm an American.

02:08:10.000 Where do you live?

02:08:10.000 San Francisco.

02:08:11.000 Why do you have weapons?

02:08:13.000 They're giving them biometric ID cards.

02:08:15.000 They practice breaking up the men, women, and children in the different areas of the camp.

02:08:19.000 Fallujah itself is being turned into a giant concentration camp.

02:08:24.000 So we'll play this little two-minute clip and then go to Dr. Fetzer, who I know will have a comment on this.

02:08:29.000 Go ahead and roll this clip from the end of the show yesterday.

02:08:33.000 Steve in Ohio, you're one of our last callers on the air with Mr. Moore.

02:08:36.000 Go ahead.

02:08:37.000 Yeah, how you doing Alex?

02:08:39.000 Real quick comment.

02:08:40.000 I happened to tape the last broadcast of Tom Brokaw last night.

02:08:44.000 And they were covering the Iraq War, and guess what?

02:08:47.000 They are going to biometrically scan the people of Fallujah with eye scans. 0.96

02:08:51.000 And they also made it clear that they were going to shoot to kill anybody that doesn't conform to the law.

02:08:57.000 I mean, and they didn't say insurgent.

02:08:58.000 They made it clear it was when they let the citizens back into the city to reclaim whatever's left of them.

02:09:03.000 Wait a minute, you're joking.

02:09:04.000 Dan Rather's... I mean, not Dan Rather.

02:09:06.000 Tom Brokaw's last show, they said, we're going to retinascan.

02:09:10.000 I know they said that.

02:09:11.000 I got the audio clip already cued up and it's ready to go.

02:09:14.000 I got to hear it.

02:09:14.000 Do you want to hear it?

02:09:17.000 Here it is, folks.

02:09:18.000 Many others are badly damaged.

02:09:21.000 So far, the plan is for most of the city's 250,000 residents to return in stages.

02:09:28.000 At first, only a few thousand will be let in.

02:09:30.000 They'll be fingerprinted, given a retina scan, and then an ID card, which will only allow them to travel around their homes or to nearby aid centers, which are now being built.

02:09:42.000 The Marines will be authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules.

02:09:47.000 Tom?

02:09:48.000 Richard, what's the latest on the election?

02:09:49.000 Hear that?

02:09:50.000 Now let me stop you.

02:09:51.000 That is the most... That's what they've trained for here in America.

02:09:54.000 Yes.

02:09:55.000 I have video of them doing the mock retina scans, the cards, all that, Police State 2000.

02:09:59.000 Yeah.

02:10:00.000 That's what... I'm begging you.

02:10:01.000 Will you mail that to me immediately?

02:10:03.000 I'll give you the video, the whole thing of it.

02:10:03.000 Yes, I will.

02:10:05.000 But I was shocked when I saw it.

02:10:07.000 They made it clear that they're going to retina scan the people.

02:10:10.000 I cannot believe these poor people are like third world people. 1.00

02:10:13.000 They're already putting them under this tyranny.

02:10:15.000 Hey listen, they're tearing out all their agriculture, everything.

02:10:18.000 It's dehumanization.

02:10:19.000 Yeah.

02:10:22.000 Folks, that is the Antichrist beast system. 0.62

02:10:24.000 Right. 1.00

02:10:25.000 And then you've got your card, and if you walk to the wrong place, we're going to go ahead and shoot you. 0.99

02:10:29.000 Mr. Moore, I mean, this is the... comments, final comments.

02:10:33.000 Well, it doesn't surprise me, and this is a heads up for what we're looking forward to in this country in the not-too-distant future.

02:10:42.000 All right.

02:10:44.000 Now, again, they've already issued ID cards all over the country in key areas where you work.

02:10:49.000 You've got to wear an RFID bracelet.

02:10:51.000 But this is the plan here.

02:10:53.000 They're not just getting their I.D.

02:10:54.000 cards.

02:10:54.000 We're getting our national I.D.

02:10:56.000 That's about to pass Congress.

02:10:56.000 card.

02:10:58.000 We defeated it two weeks ago.

02:10:59.000 They've got a special Congress, special session coming up.

02:11:02.000 Dr. Spetzer, again, you're an expert on all of this from your writings and research and from your website where you teach up there at the University of Minnesota.

02:11:11.000 What you just heard, give us your take on that.

02:11:13.000 Well, it's grief-striking, Alex.

02:11:16.000 It's absolutely... I mean, it's outdoing the Nazis.

02:11:19.000 I mean, this is far beyond even what the Nazis practiced until you start loading them into cattle cars and shipping them off to crematoria. 0.71

02:11:26.000 And we can win a battle.

02:11:27.000 We can level the city.

02:11:28.000 It's exactly like Vietnam, where we had to destroy the village in order to save it. 0.98

02:11:33.000 We're having to destroy the village.

02:11:35.000 I mean, Fallujah was one of the most holy cities in all of Iraq, and it's now nothing but a pile of rock and rubble.

02:11:42.000 This is absolutely disgusting.

02:11:43.000 The idea that we're going to win the hearts and minds of the people by destroying their mosques and their holy sites is so incredibly short-sighted. 1.00

02:11:53.000 Not to say stupid and crass and corrupt and illegal and immoral. 1.00

02:11:59.000 There are about one and a half billion Muslims who are going to take offense at everything we're doing here. 1.00

02:12:04.000 We are creating 100 Osamas for everyone we might kill. 1.00

02:12:08.000 But that's the P2OG Pentagon plan, is to enrage them. 0.83

02:12:11.000 They want to have a war. 0.81

02:12:13.000 Well, it's insane.

02:12:14.000 It's insane, Alex.

02:12:15.000 It's like these are, you know, second comers who believe that there's going to be a great war between the religions and then Christ is going to return and consign everyone to hell who doesn't, isn't a born-again Christian. 0.64

02:12:25.000 For which there's some reason to believe George Bush actually believes this.

02:12:29.000 Well, again, I'm a Christian.

02:12:32.000 And I know that the neocons, who aren't Christians, who are skull and boners, are manipulating good Christians out there and trying to make this some type of messianic fight.

02:12:43.000 I've heard them say every day that Bush is like a prophet, a divine leader.

02:12:47.000 And the guy, when he's not praying in a mosque, he's at a Shinto shrine.

02:12:51.000 I mean, it's totally fake.

02:12:55.000 It's completely bizarre, Alex.

02:12:56.000 I mean, you look at the Old Testament.

02:12:58.000 I mean, this was a doctrine of love and acceptance and compassion.

02:13:02.000 I mean, you look at what Christ preached about, for example, giving all your money to the poor, that it's harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.

02:13:12.000 None of this is exemplified by this administration. 0.99

02:13:15.000 Well, I mean, it's kind of theater to con people, but just focusing in on this specifically, I mean, that is total war I mean, people say level it, kill them all, kill them all.

02:13:26.000 Even alternative press admits it's about 10,000 fighters that were in the city out of 250,000.

02:13:30.000 Yeah, the very use of the term insurgent, rebel and all that is a bit of a crock concern.

02:13:37.000 We've invaded this country's... Yeah, but think about this, though.

02:13:40.000 10,000 people... 0.98

02:13:42.000 Love them or hate them are doing the fighting, and then these people on talk radio say, kill everyone!

02:13:47.000 Well, I want them to go look at the photos of toddlers with both their arms and legs blown off! 0.99

02:13:51.000 Bloody hell! 0.92

02:13:52.000 Alex, I know it's completely disgusting! 0.99

02:13:54.000 I want the sickos that are into this to go look at it! 0.99

02:13:58.000 This is the most corrupt action of the United States! 0.94

02:14:01.000 I mean, with the possible exception of bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there may have been a legitimate political reason.

02:14:07.000 There's no legitimate political reason for doing this!

02:14:10.000 And now they want to go into other countries, but they're saying it's the same story.

02:14:13.000 They can hit us in 45 minutes with nukes.

02:14:15.000 They've got the nukes.

02:14:15.000 We've got to go in.

02:14:16.000 It's the same exact script they used two years ago!

02:14:20.000 Well, we're in the grip of a fascist regime, Alex, and the sooner the American people will wake into it, the better.

02:14:25.000 I mean, traditional Republicans have stood for balanced budgets, constitutional government, non-interventionist foreign policy, keeping the government out of our personal lives.

02:14:33.000 This administration is violating every one of those.

02:14:36.000 Doctrines which have defined Republicanism.

02:14:38.000 I say, where are the traditional Republicans?

02:14:40.000 They seem to be absolutely silent, Alec.

02:14:42.000 They don't even speak up about the massive deficits, not to mention invading other countries which have never attacked us in violation of international law on the U.N.

02:14:49.000 Charter.

02:14:50.000 Well, forget international law.

02:14:52.000 Alberto, I love torture Gonzales, who wrote the torture memos up, said Bush is above federal law.

02:14:59.000 It's shocking, I know, and he's going to elevate this man to be Attorney General.

02:15:02.000 I mean, Ashcroft was bad enough.

02:15:03.000 this guy may be even worse. - Yeah, that's even what the liberals are saying, like a village voice.

02:15:08.000 Now, we're about to go to break, but I wanna go over this.

02:15:11.000 They've got these horrible debunkers who are literally all over TV.

02:15:18.000 It's not working though, 90 plus percent polls know the government killed Kennedy.

02:15:22.000 But they're all over TV, attacking everybody.

02:15:25.000 They won't let another voice up there to debate them.

02:15:27.000 And they're using computer programs to show how one guy shot Kennedy and all this.

02:15:33.000 In a nutshell, debunk the debunkers.

02:15:37.000 Well, it's all based on the false assumptions that were the premises of the Warren Report and the House Select Committee reinvestigation in Gerald Posner's case.

02:15:44.000 Quote, namely, the magic bullet theory that a single bullet entered the base of the back of Jack's neck, transited his neck without hitting any bony structures, exited his throat, and went into the back of John Connolly doing all this damage.

02:15:56.000 It's easy to prove, Alex, that this claim, which is the fulcrum of all of these government defenses, is not only false, it's provably false, and in fact it's not even anatomically possible because cervical vertebrae intervene.

02:16:10.000 We have the man's shirt and the jacket, the penetration was five and a half inches down below the collar, it was a shallow shot, only went in about as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.

02:16:18.000 We have the autopsy drawing, we have autopsy reports, we have sketches that come from the FBI.

02:16:24.000 That car, that car admittedly was like Swiss cheese with bullet holes in it and then they...

02:16:31.000 What'd they do with that car after nobody was allowed to see that car?

02:16:34.000 It went right back to the factory.

02:16:36.000 25th of November, the day of the formal state funeral, the car was ripped down to bare metal and completely rebuilt, including removing and replacing the windshield, which had a through-and-through bullet hole in it.

02:16:45.000 This was the shot that hit Jack in the throat.

02:16:46.000 We have established Jack was hit four different times in the throat from in front.

02:16:50.000 In the back, that five and a half inches down from behind. 0.94

02:16:52.000 And then, Alex, after the driver, brought the limousine to a halt.

02:16:55.000 The man was hit twice in the head, once from behind.

02:16:58.000 He fell forward, Jackie eased him back up, and she was looking right in the face when he was hit in the right temple.

02:17:02.000 Well, even on the edited Sabrina film, you know, you see him lunge forward, grab his neck, and then the big shot hits him in the front, and the back of the head opens up like a mushroom.

02:17:10.000 Well, that mushroom actually is intended to be to the right front to give the impression of an effect of a shot from behind.

02:17:17.000 But a special effects expert from Hollywood told Noel Twyman, the author of Bloody Treason, that it appeared to have been painted in.

02:17:23.000 There are complimentary x-rays that show all the bone and muscle skull missing from that part, the right front of the head.

02:17:29.000 But the autopsy photographs don't show it.

02:17:31.000 Jackie said he looked from in front, he looked perfectly fine.

02:17:34.000 That when she was helping him to park, he looked fine from the front, but she couldn't keep his skull together in the back.

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02:21:51.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:21:54.000 All right, we're talking to Dr. James H. Fetzer.

02:22:06.000 Doctor, I mean look, for those that don't know, the official story is impossible.

02:22:10.000 I guess for the 8% that don't know.

02:22:13.000 Yeah, that's absolutely right.

02:22:15.000 That's absolutely right.

02:22:16.000 We've gone back and reconstructed and found the government has altered all the most basic evidence in this case, including the autopsy x-rays.

02:22:22.000 They patched it and you can see a massive blowout to the back of the head.

02:22:25.000 Added a 6.5 millimeter metallic slice to implicate this obscure World War II weapon, which couldn't even have inflicted the damage that took out his brain.

02:22:35.000 It wasn't high velocity.

02:22:36.000 It wasn't even high velocity.

02:22:38.000 I do think such a weapon was one of those used.

02:22:41.000 We have six shooters, eight, nine, or ten shots fired all together.

02:22:45.000 The shot that hit him in the back of the head, a shot that missed and hit the chrome strip, and a shot that missed and injured a distant bystander may have been fired using a Mannlicher Carcano from the second floor of the Dow Tax Building.

02:22:55.000 Yeah, we got bystanders getting hit, and magically three bullets for doing all this.

02:23:02.000 Yeah, in fact, actually it's interesting that at the crime scene they only found two spent shell casings and then one unspent.

02:23:07.000 So you have these evidence photographs that show only two.

02:23:10.000 So they didn't have enough rounds from there.

02:23:14.000 This whole thing was done kind of scissors and paces.

02:23:16.000 They went along changing the evidence and altering it.

02:23:18.000 They substituted another brain during the second supplemental brain examination because when they patched up that hole in the back of the head there was nowhere for all that brains to go.

02:23:26.000 And of course, altering the film was a centerpiece in order to take out For example, the driver bringing the limousine to a halt.

02:23:32.000 A fellow named Homer McMahon from the National Photographic Interpretation Center, which processes satellite images in Washington, D.C., was brought a copy of a film that night and told to study it and prepare a briefing board for an unnamed government official to show how many impacts there were on occupants of the limo.

02:23:47.000 And he discovered that there were six to eight impacts from at least three different directions.

02:23:52.000 That's consistent with our findings, Alex, because we have four in Jack and as many as three in Big John Connolly, which is seven in between six and eight.

02:23:59.000 But that was so stunningly different than what we see today in the extant film, that it indicates how far they went from the original.

02:24:05.000 Well, bottom line, a lot of Americans out there know it's a fraud, because half of Americans are proficient with firearms on average, and everybody's shot a deer, or a lot of people have, or people shot into a sand bank.

02:24:18.000 You can shoot a bullet into water, And it gets more... I mean, I've done this into a deep 20-foot pool.

02:24:23.000 I've sat there and shot rifles into it and swam down and picked them up, you know, when I was a kid just for fun.

02:24:28.000 You shoot a .30-06 or similar around even high-velocity into there.

02:24:33.000 Low-velocity doesn't even... I mean, still deforms.

02:24:35.000 He goes into there and there's massive deformity.

02:24:38.000 Only cotton wad, and that'll still give you some. 0.98

02:24:41.000 There was almost no deformity on that bullet that magically fell out on the stretcher.

02:24:45.000 Especially coming of a bullet He had two people, went through seats, bounced around, multiple bones.

02:24:51.000 I mean, if a bullet hits one bone, folks, it goes into pieces.

02:24:55.000 Yeah, it shatters.

02:24:56.000 Gross deformity.

02:24:57.000 I published a photograph of the magic bullet alongside a test bullet fired into wads of cotton by the House Select Committee and the Warren Commission.

02:25:05.000 You can't tell the difference.

02:25:07.000 They're indistinguishable, Alex.

02:25:08.000 When you're gutting a mule deer or an elk, those are the type of deer where it actually usually stays in them.

02:25:13.000 A whitetail blasts right through them at 500 yards, it still goes right through them.

02:25:16.000 It'll go front to end through them.

02:25:19.000 But you shoot like an elk or something, when you're gutting that, man, you go to find the bullet, it'll be in five pieces.

02:25:25.000 There's a massive disinformation campaign trying to move our understanding of the case way back to before we made all these discoveries which started already in 1993.

02:25:35.000 Which includes that Gerald Ford, who was of course a member of the commission, had that description of the wound changed, Alex.

02:25:43.000 In the report, the semi-final version of the report, it described that wound in the back as the uppermost back, which as you can see is already an exaggeration.

02:25:50.000 He had it re-described to the base of the back of the neck to accommodate Arlen Spector's fantasy of a single bullet going through the neck and doing all this damage.

02:25:58.000 So Gerald Ford was complicit in this thing right from scratch.

02:26:01.000 He was known as Jay Edgar's boy on the commission because he was keeping Hoover, the director of the FBI, appraised of exactly where the commission was going in its inquiries.

02:26:11.000 Plus, we had confirmation of two different brain examinations that came out of depositions that were taken by the Assassination Records Review Board, this five-member civilian board created by an act of Congress after the release of Oliver Stone's film JFK.

02:26:24.000 It was opposed by George Bush, then president, the former director of the CIA, Who refused to appoint the members after it passed against his adamant opposition.

02:26:32.000 And when, after Bill Clinton finally did appoint the members, they started releasing what would turn out to be 60,000 documents and records from the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, and all that.

02:26:41.000 Get this, Alex.

02:26:43.000 When the Secret Service was telegraphed that they wanted presidential protection records because the motorcade had been so strange, and we have more than 15 indications of Secret Service complicity in setting the man up, they destroyed their records.

02:26:56.000 Yeah, and I want to go over that.

02:26:58.000 I mean, that's a whole other area of evidence.

02:27:00.000 They never did this at any other event in history, just one of these things, but over and over again on that day. 0.92

02:27:06.000 These computerized reconstructions, there was one last year on ABC that was recycled this year on the History Channel, they exemplify the fundamental principle in computer science, G-I-G-O, garbage in, garbage out.

02:27:18.000 They're based on faulty assumptions and non-existent data.

02:27:21.000 Yeah, they show you a cartoon.

02:27:24.000 Exactly.

02:27:25.000 Folks, one thing makes it fall apart.

02:27:28.000 Bullets get damaged when you fire them into water, much less skull.

02:27:35.000 We're on the march.

02:27:36.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:31:02.000 We're talking to Dr. James Fetzer, professor up in Minnesota.

02:31:07.000 Dr. Fetzer, continuing, let's talk about what the Secret Service did that day.

02:31:11.000 I mean, I watched the old films, the news camera footage of Conley.

02:31:15.000 That guy was totally upset in that vehicle, looking around, paranoid the entire time.

02:31:20.000 I mean, that's just obvious right there.

02:31:23.000 That was a cop looking at footage of who's looking paranoid, who's acting suspicious.

02:31:26.000 That's just one small area, but let's go into the motorcade route.

02:31:29.000 You're absolutely right, Alex.

02:31:30.000 There was a big argument between JFK and LBJ that morning because Lyndon wanted to put Connolly right with him and Ralph Yarbrough as political enemy right with Jack.

02:31:40.000 Jack overruled him on the grounds that the president, uh, that the chief executive of the state should ride with the chief executive of the United States.

02:31:46.000 But I don't think there was time to let the assassins know that the, uh, the person in the seat in front of Jack was not going to be Ralph.

02:31:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I've got the stills, I've got the photographs, the video of the film.

02:31:56.000 That guy was freaked out.

02:31:57.000 Oh, you're absolutely right.

02:31:58.000 But the things they didn't do include, they didn't weld down the manhole covers, they didn't cover the open windows, they let the crowd spill out eight or ten deep into the They told the 112th Military Intelligence Unit to stand down against the adamant opposition of its commanding officer.

02:32:12.000 They had the motorcycle patrol beside the limousine not only reduced in number, but not allowed to ride ahead of the rear wheels.

02:32:19.000 They had an improper motorcade route, including that 110 degree turn off of Houston onto Elm.

02:32:24.000 The driver slowed the limousine nearly to a halt.

02:32:27.000 The limousines were all in the wrong order.

02:32:29.000 This is one of the most telling, Alex.

02:32:30.000 The presidential limousine should have been in the middle.

02:32:32.000 It should have been surrounded with a flatbed truck ahead of it for the cameraman to be covering this political event.

02:32:37.000 They put it way out front.

02:32:39.000 And they put the mayor and the vice president behind it.

02:32:41.000 Guess where they put the president's position?

02:32:43.000 In the very last vehicle, along with most of the press, so they couldn't cover what actually happened when the shooting began to take place.

02:32:49.000 They moved the military aid that normally would be sitting in between the driver and the Secret Service agent in charge.

02:32:54.000 From his seat there, in the front, to the very last limousine, too.

02:32:58.000 And that bullet that went through the windshield hit Jack in the throat, would have hit his military aide if he hadn't been moved.

02:33:02.000 When they got to Parkland Hospital, they got a bucket and sponge and started washing blood and brains out of the limousine.

02:33:07.000 Secret Service agent in charge picked up the x-rays, exposed and developed, and the autopsy photographs exposed but undeveloped.

02:33:14.000 And the next time we see them, they've been altered, re-shot, re-changed.

02:33:17.000 And of course, as I already mentioned, they took the limousine back to Ford Motor Company, had it completely rebuilt.

02:33:22.000 That was a crime scene on wheels, Alex.

02:33:24.000 It belonged in the Smithsonian.

02:33:25.000 Instead, it was all dismantled.

02:33:26.000 That had to be on the highest orders of the federal government.

02:33:28.000 And they did the same thing in Oklahoma City, and the same thing at the World Trade Center.

02:33:32.000 Guard the wreckage, tear it down, haul it off, wake up.

02:33:36.000 That's right.

02:33:37.000 World Trade Center too, right?

02:33:38.000 Get all those steel beams out of there as quickly as you can, so you won't see the evidence of a controlled demolition.

02:33:42.000 But let's go into a whole other area of research.

02:33:46.000 We know the official story is a complete fraud.

02:33:48.000 But then let's look at what Kennedy says.

02:33:50.000 I'm abolishing the Federal Reserve, signs the executive order.

02:33:53.000 I'm pulling 150,000 troops out of Vietnam starting now.

02:33:55.000 Within a month, we're totally out of there.

02:33:58.000 LBJ signs executive orders reversing all that, turning the ship back with the troops.

02:34:03.000 But I've interviewed Barr McClellan, the White House press secretary's father, who was LBJ's lawyer.

02:34:09.000 He said they all bragged about how they killed him.

02:34:12.000 I have interviewed, but she died a few years ago, his admitted mistress.

02:34:19.000 Good, you know Madeline, yes. 0.99

02:34:20.000 Madeline Duncan Brown, I interviewed her eight years ago, and again a few years ago before she died.

02:34:25.000 She was there at the meeting where they bragged about killing him, and then I confirmed that with other people that are there.

02:34:30.000 I mean, we've got, this is not debatable!

02:34:33.000 Well, I think that's correct.

02:34:35.000 Madeleine is a key source.

02:34:36.000 What she has to say about Lyndon's involvement has been confirmed by Billy Solstice, among others.

02:34:41.000 Bob McClellan has a little small slice of it.

02:34:43.000 Now, his reconstruction of the assassination is completely inadequate.

02:34:46.000 He basically has two shooters where one of them now is Mac Wallace up in the sixth floor of the Book Depository alongside Lee Oswald.

02:34:53.000 Yeah, I mean, definitely he's not a forensics expert in doing what you're doing, but he's there with LBJ's people.

02:35:00.000 They're bragging about how they killed him.

02:35:01.000 So, I mean, that is powerful info. 0.92

02:35:03.000 Well, it's all quite disgusting.

02:35:05.000 I mean, for example, at a rendezvous six weeks after the assassination, Madeline confronted Lyndon at the Driscoll Hotel in Austin, Texas on New Year's Eve.

02:35:13.000 With rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally, he got angry with her and told her the CIA and the oil boys had decided that Jack had to be taken out.

02:35:22.000 Billy Saul Estes has said how Jack was in deep trouble.

02:35:25.000 He gave an interview to a French investigative reporter named William Raymond, who published it in a French magazine whose title translates to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, that Lyndon was in such deep trouble there was going to be a vote that afternoon, Friday afternoon, the 22nd of November.

02:35:38.000 on the Bobby Baker scandal was going to tarnish him so badly almost certainly Jack wouldn't be able to run with him again.

02:35:43.000 Richard Nixon who was in town and was at this meeting the night before at the home of Clint Murkison that appears to be a ratification meeting where Madeleine was present I mean, here's the deal.

02:35:54.000 I'm interviewing his admitted mistress who had his own natural-born son.

02:35:56.000 I'm interviewing his admitted lawyer for a decade.

02:35:57.000 but i mean here's the deal i'm interviewing his admitted mistress who had his own natural born son i'm interviewing his admitted lawyer for a decade you know i mean i mean it's not what i think again folks you can't beat these sources i think they were using this uh...

02:36:13.000 you know you have jerald ford and jack valenti and ladybird you know making a big to do about the the third of the three new episodes in nigel turner's famous series the men who killed kennedy And they made such a big, big to-do about it, such a great racket, that the History Channel not only pulled off that, but I think the whole new three segments.

02:36:30.000 And then put on three historians, none of whom were qualified to discuss the assassination.

02:36:34.000 It was really shocking.

02:36:35.000 Well, that's the tactic.

02:36:36.000 Bring it out and slap it down.

02:36:38.000 These were pseudo-experts.

02:36:40.000 Even Robert Dalek, who's written a book about Jack called An Unfinished Life, knows nothing about the assassination.

02:36:45.000 The other two are laughable.

02:36:46.000 One was a guy named Stanley Cutler, who's a constitutional historian.

02:36:49.000 He knows nothing at all about the assassination.

02:36:51.000 The other guy was named Thomas Sugru, from the University of Pennsylvania, deals with affirmative action and social issues.

02:36:57.000 I sent these last two guys 20 questions to discern their expertise for doing this, to which they did not respond, Alex.

02:37:04.000 I asked them if they'd read the book, I asked them if they'd watched the series, I even asked them if they'd watched the very segment they were critiquing, and I gave them a half a dozen books, and whether they knew about Madeline, whether they were qualified to review an article in this area, much less a book.

02:37:17.000 None of them silenced.

02:37:18.000 Absolute silence because they were so embarrassed they knew that their bluff had been called.

02:37:24.000 Unbelievable.

02:37:25.000 That is just amazing.

02:37:26.000 And there's other evidence.

02:37:28.000 It just goes on and on.

02:37:30.000 And Jack, a few weeks before at a major university said, an evil group has taken over.

02:37:34.000 They're destroying America.

02:37:36.000 I'm going to try to stop them.

02:37:38.000 Alex, I think this was the beginning of creating an alternative reality.

02:37:41.000 It's the big lie that's been going on and on.

02:37:43.000 The Gulf of Tonkin was a minor incident compared to what's going on now in relation to Iraq.

02:37:47.000 I mean, naval officers said our ship wasn't attacked, and then last year the Presidential Library, again here in Austin, releases the tape with them saying it never happened.

02:37:47.000 Hey, can we do that?

02:37:56.000 Absolutely right.

02:37:57.000 And 58,000 Americans died because of it.

02:37:59.000 Absolutely right.

02:38:00.000 And, you know, I think that this, getting away with assassinating the President of the United States in broad daylight, And then faking all the evidence to mislead the American people has emboldened the military-industrial complex and its representatives right up to today where they're pulling all kinds of stunts to mislead and deceive the American people.

02:38:16.000 I mean, think about, Alex, the claim they have that we had an election in Afghanistan to prop up this guy Karzai.

02:38:22.000 They claim they had 10 million registered voters.

02:38:25.000 That's more than there were people who could vote in Afghanistan.

02:38:29.000 To get all those people registered would have been a huge process.

02:38:32.000 It never happened, Alex.

02:38:33.000 There's only 25 million In the whole country.

02:38:36.000 It didn't happen Alex.

02:38:37.000 The whole thing is a phony.

02:38:38.000 Just like our past election here where it was manipulated using electronic voting machines.

02:38:43.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:38:44.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

02:38:44.000 Let's talk about it and give folks the proof. 0.95

02:38:46.000 Half of that 25 million are women. 0.65

02:38:49.000 And about a third of those are young women.

02:38:50.000 Another third of the men that are the, you know, twelve, fourteen million and the other half are young or old or were in mountain areas who can't even get into town to vote.

02:39:01.000 So you're talking maybe about five million voters.

02:39:03.000 And then the foreign press admitted that people were told in releases, he will be killed if you vote for anybody else.

02:39:09.000 Let's take Iraq. 0.97

02:39:10.000 They're going to have the election sometime in January, supposedly.

02:39:13.000 No one has registered to run against Alex, these people, when they line up to vote, are going to be slaughtered.

02:39:22.000 I mean, this is just awful.

02:39:23.000 No one is even running! 0.89

02:39:24.000 It's ridiculous.

02:39:26.000 A few people said they were going to announce, and the car bombings were machine gun. 0.99

02:39:29.000 It's a complete fraud.

02:39:30.000 You're absolutely right.

02:39:31.000 Well, I mean, no one's running, and then they say there's an election coming?

02:39:36.000 I couldn't agree more.

02:39:37.000 It's a fraud.

02:39:38.000 But I mean, do I have to explain to people?

02:39:40.000 I know our listeners know all this, but the general public, well, we brought them freedom.

02:39:44.000 Well, mostly Iraqi parties agree that you can't have the election now because there's no stability.

02:39:48.000 I mean, you know, the violence, the level of violence is increasing.

02:39:50.000 That's, I've interviewed and heard reporters interviewed who are there right now, and they say that no one is running because everybody knows it's a fraud and they'll be killed.

02:39:59.000 That's right. 0.89

02:40:00.000 I mean, the minute you run against Alawi, you're dead.

02:40:04.000 This is Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld running the world, you know, according to their own agenda, regardless of what's in the interest of the Iraqi people.

02:40:11.000 This is total exploitation.

02:40:13.000 It has absolutely nothing to do with reality. 0.99

02:40:16.000 Well, I mean, even if some idiot out there is for this war, folks, understand, no one is running. 0.98

02:40:21.000 It's not real. 0.99

02:40:23.000 Can you at least admit the election isn't real?

02:40:27.000 It's just, and exactly, I wasn't for John Forbes Carey.

02:40:30.000 He threw the election.

02:40:31.000 He took a dive, but he really did win.

02:40:33.000 I just report the facts.

02:40:35.000 He won Ohio.

02:40:36.000 He won New Mexico.

02:40:37.000 But he took a dive, folks!

02:40:39.000 Because it was staged from the beginning!

02:40:43.000 Alright, again, we just lost him.

02:40:45.000 We've been having phone system problems today.

02:40:49.000 Check everything else after you check that.

02:40:52.000 Satellites and everything.

02:40:54.000 This happens a few times a year.

02:40:56.000 Sure, it'll be fixed as soon as my show ends.

02:40:58.000 That's Murphy's Law.

02:41:01.000 But, I mean, it's very, very frustrating.

02:41:07.000 They killed your president in plain view.

02:41:10.000 And, you know, one of my friends made the point that the Kennedy family, the globalists killed the Kennedy males and then took their women. 0.86

02:41:21.000 You've got down this Republican puppet.

02:41:23.000 He's not even a conservative.

02:41:24.000 Oh, I know he's conservative.

02:41:27.000 Arnold Schwarzenegger, the pro-abortion, Mr. Gun Ban, Mr. Open Border, Mr. Cloning, you know, going and taking the women. 0.86

02:41:33.000 I mean, it's... Do we have Dr. Fesser back?

02:41:35.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, Alex, we got cut off.

02:41:36.000 No, that's, I think, on our end.

02:41:38.000 We've been having one of these blue moon problems.

02:41:40.000 You know, Alex, you're so right about proof.

02:41:42.000 I mean, if people want proof, for example, that all these government reports about JFK are just based upon nonsense, fabrication, falsehood, They can go to my website, fascinationscience.com, where I have a JFK introductory seminar that lays out all the evidence that shows that the magic bullet theory is indefensible, that explains how all the autopsy materials have been faked and changed and altered, and shows how the Zapruder film has been manufactured.

02:42:07.000 I want to spend some time on 9-11 and some time on Wellstone that you also cover.

02:42:13.000 Give folks that website again.

02:42:15.000 fascinationscience.com.

02:42:17.000 And tell folks about the books and videos.

02:42:20.000 Well, there are three books on the assassination that involve contributions from the best qualified individuals to ever study the case.

02:42:26.000 The first is Assassination Science.

02:42:27.000 The second, Murder in Dealey Plaza.

02:42:30.000 The third, The Great Zapruder Film Hoax.

02:42:31.000 Now, they can find introductions and descriptions of all three of those books on AssassinationScience.com.

02:42:37.000 I've also, in collaboration with John Four Arrows Jacobs, a distinguished A professor from Northern Arizona University written a book about the death of Senator Paul Wellstone entitled American Assassination.

02:42:50.000 You can also get an introduction to that book on the website and discover all the evidence we're turning up that the same kinds of techniques that were used to conceal what happened to JFK are being used to conceal what happened to Paul Wellstone.

02:43:02.000 And we'll go over that here in a second.

02:43:04.000 Before we go any further with this, On the 40th anniversary, I got online and I averaged 12 national and several local polls together.

02:43:15.000 Because I'd see a poll, a major poll, 82%, another poll, 94%.

02:43:19.000 I averaged 12 polls together.

02:43:24.000 And scientific, unscientific, but even the scientific ones were all over 80%.

02:43:29.000 I came up with 92% of the American people, and I used polls to ask the question, do you believe the U.S.

02:43:34.000 government was involved, 92% When they were asked that, believe that the government killed Kennedy.

02:43:41.000 Now, when we've got numbers like that, up from 80% just a few years ago, it's going to be a tiny minority, what, of one-half of 1% in a few years, on TV, telling us that the rest of us are kooks?

02:43:51.000 Yeah, that's right, Alex, except when they control the mass media, you know, and the government, that doesn't give the rest of us much of a shot at it.

02:43:58.000 Talk radio is one of the few bastions, and the internet, one of the few bastions where freedom of speech and freedom of inquiry still prevail.

02:44:05.000 And that's pockets.

02:44:06.000 Pockets of talk radio.

02:44:07.000 You're absolutely right.

02:44:09.000 Dwindling pools like in the Sahara.

02:44:12.000 Yes.

02:44:13.000 And they want to dry them up, too.

02:44:15.000 You know, you can bet that this Gonzales, if he gets in there, that's one of the first moves he'll make.

02:44:19.000 Try to dry up every opportunity there is for Americans to discover the opposite truth.

02:44:23.000 Janet came out and said we've got to regulate speech on the net. 0.89

02:44:26.000 That's outrageous.

02:44:27.000 And the head of CENTCOM said it last week.

02:44:30.000 That's bad.

02:44:31.000 Bad sign.

02:44:32.000 They're going to have this national ID program.

02:44:34.000 We're going to scan all our retinas here, too.

02:44:35.000 All that, what was being said about Herb Palooza is going to be true here, too.

02:44:39.000 Yeah.

02:44:39.000 That's what they're going to try to pull, Alex.

02:44:42.000 You know, it's a Twilight Zone episode.

02:44:45.000 So, what are they going to do when all of us know the truth, but then we all still feel like we're alone and we're the minority because we don't have any mediums to communicate with each other?

02:44:54.000 Oh, it's a terrible situation, you know.

02:44:56.000 I mean, knowing the truth isn't destined to make you happy, unfortunately.

02:45:01.000 The realities are getting more and more grim, and the theft of this last election is just stunning.

02:45:05.000 In fact, when Wellstone was taken out, That was part and parcel of gaining control, Republican control.

02:45:12.000 Yeah, give us the thumbnail, cursory, boil down, the synopsis, the cheat sheet on Wellstone.

02:45:19.000 Just give it to us in a shotgun.

02:45:21.000 Well, the plane coming in for a conventional landing appears to have been hit by a new electromagnetic pulse weapon that takes out all the electronics, overwhelms the electrical circuits.

02:45:30.000 That's what Pat did for 30 years, a microwave gun.

02:45:33.000 That's right.

02:45:34.000 It can completely disable the pilots, render them unconscious, incapable of voluntary muscle control, or even dead.

02:45:39.000 The plane went on essentially more or less powerless until it crashed.

02:45:43.000 It burned for some five hours.

02:45:45.000 The smoke was bluish-white, indicative of an electrical fire, not a fuel fire.

02:45:49.000 In fact, most of the fuel was in the wings, which were broken off as the plane crashed.

02:45:53.000 The NTSB claimed that they had simply the two pilots, one of whom had the highest possible qualification as an air transport pilot, Simply neglected the airspeed and altitude and allowed the plane to crash.

02:46:04.000 This is completely absurd, Alex.

02:46:06.000 The plane even had a high-loud stall warning device on it.

02:46:10.000 When the NTSB tried to simulate the crash, they got pilots from the same charter down in Florida.

02:46:15.000 They used the simulator with a weaker engine.

02:46:17.000 They probably wouldn't have admitted that, but they had a weaker engine.

02:46:20.000 They piloted, you know, programmed the same flight path and weather conditions.

02:46:23.000 Which were perfectly reasonable.

02:46:25.000 Not perfect, but perfectly reasonable.

02:46:26.000 They couldn't get the plane to crash even when they flew it at abnormally slow speeds.

02:46:30.000 And this was a plane with a weaker engine, Alex.

02:46:32.000 By the way... Which means the NTSB's own evidence contradicts the NTSB's own evidence.

02:46:36.000 By the way, the weather wasn't as bad as they said.

02:46:38.000 Absolutely not.

02:46:40.000 And the witnesses didn't see what the media tried to say.

02:46:43.000 Why kill Wellstone?

02:46:46.000 Oh man, there were so many motives for that.

02:46:48.000 He was being outspoken in opposition to the war in Iraq.

02:46:51.000 He could have inspired Democrats across the country.

02:46:53.000 Patriot Act.

02:46:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:46:55.000 They didn't want him running for president.

02:46:57.000 That's right.

02:46:58.000 They did not want him running for president.

02:47:01.000 Absolutely true.

02:47:02.000 Alex, he was the conscience of the Senate.

02:47:04.000 They wanted to regain control.

02:47:06.000 I would agree with a lot of his policies, but he definitely was a loose cannon for them.

02:47:13.000 Absolutely right.

02:47:14.000 A great threat to their vaunted invincibility as a political machine.

02:47:17.000 Taking him out and stealing the election in Georgia using voting machines where the press reported an astonishing 16-point swing when the voters went into the polls.

02:47:25.000 There aren't any astonishing 16-point swings, Alex.

02:47:28.000 This was a myth!

02:47:31.000 It's like Hagel owning his own voting machines and then the polls show he's going to lose by 15% and he wins.

02:47:39.000 I know!

02:47:39.000 He got 18% in black districts that had never voted for a Republican before.

02:47:43.000 Well, now you know.

02:47:46.000 The lies, the big lies.

02:47:49.000 What do you think about last week with a plane, Learjet, coming to pick up Lord Bush Sr.

02:47:55.000 crashing coming in.

02:47:55.000 Do you think that was really the fog?

02:47:58.000 Pretty weird.

02:48:00.000 You know, Lyndon pulled a stunt like that.

02:48:01.000 He had a small private plane that was vastly insured, and he ordered two pilots to bring it in in terrible weather, and the plane crashed.

02:48:09.000 He collected all the insurance.

02:48:10.000 I don't know what was going on here with Bush Sr.' 's kind of weird.

02:48:15.000 It is weird.

02:48:16.000 I mean, of all the planes that crash, it's his Learjet.

02:48:19.000 Yeah.

02:48:20.000 But you know, when I was going to, I and my co-author, who's a Native American and goes by Four Arrows, went to the National Press Club on the 25th of October to explain our findings about Wellstone's death and to call for a formal investigation.

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02:53:45.000 Assassinationscience.com, Alex.

02:53:47.000 You can find info on all three books, Assassinationscience, Murder in Dealey Plaza, The Great Zapruder Film Hoax.

02:53:52.000 You can also find about American Assassination, The Strange Death of Senator Paul Wellstone.

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02:54:00.000 Tell folks, finish your story that we hit before the break.

02:54:04.000 Well, the fact of the matter is that the Wellstone case appears to have been a refinement of what happened to Mel Carnahan two years earlier.

02:54:10.000 Carnahan's plane went down about three weeks before the election, and his wife survived him.

02:54:14.000 In the case of Wellstone, that was reduced to ten days, and of course his wife was on board.

02:54:18.000 The people of Missouri, of course, preferred to vote for a dead man than sending John Ashcroft back to the Senate.

02:54:23.000 And in this case, it was done in such a way that Sheila, who was also a political activist, couldn't stand in for him.

02:54:30.000 The government seems to have a foolproof way to get rid of its political opponents through plane crashes, Alex, for two very good reasons.

02:54:36.000 One is, a plane crash can't be investigated as a crime scene unless the Attorney General declares it to be the scene of a crime.

02:54:42.000 And number two, you're not going to believe this, NTSB reports aren't even admissible as evidence in court of law.

02:54:48.000 Well, in this case, the FBI showed up almost immediately on the scene.

02:54:51.000 Our County Sheriff Rick Waldron was there at 1.30, saw agents he knew from the Rapid Response Force in St.

02:54:56.000 Paul who told him they'd been there since noon.

02:54:59.000 Well, the crash site wasn't even found until 1 o'clock.

02:55:03.000 The fire chief was up there at 11.15 trying to figure out how to get in there.

02:55:06.000 They didn't tell the FBI this crash had taken place.

02:55:08.000 I did a calculation, Alex, and in order for the FBI to be up there at the scene of the crash by noon, they had to have left St.

02:55:14.000 Paul at 9.30, the same time the Senator's plane took off.

02:55:20.000 They declared almost immediately that there were no signs of terrorist involvement.

02:55:24.000 One of these cannons can be shot out of the back of a small truck.

02:55:28.000 Yeah, oh yeah, that's right, or a van.

02:55:30.000 The plane was burned to a crisp.

02:55:32.000 They claimed there were no signs of terrorist involvement, but terrorist involvement, one very narrow range of political spectrum.

02:55:38.000 It could have been anti-abortion activists, could have been the Delta team, and you'd have to know how the plane was taken out.

02:55:43.000 It could have been a small bomb, a gas canister, or one of these EMP weapons.

02:55:47.000 There was no way they could have known that at this point in time.

02:55:50.000 The NTSB had, Carol Carmody used to work for the CIA, the next day announced there'd been no signs of terrorist activity, which he simply accepted from the FBI, even though it's the NTSB responsibility.

02:56:00.000 And get this, Alex, there actually was a tie to Zacharias Moussaoui and the co-pilot.

02:56:06.000 I'm gonna have to get you back up again, Dr. Fetzer.

02:56:08.000 Have a good weekend and keep up the good work.

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02:56:11.000 You bet.

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