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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, my friends. my friends.

00:00:43.000 It's already Monday, the sixth day of December 2004, as we accelerate towards the end of 05, 04, into 05.

00:00:56.000 And before we know it, it'll be the end of 05.

00:00:58.000 That's right.

00:01:00.000 You know, we're all in the twilight of our lives.

00:01:04.000 We're all in the winter of our lives.

00:01:06.000 You never know when you're going to die.

00:01:08.000 And life is so short, you might as well stand up for what is right and stand up for decency and honor and duty against the criminals that run our planet.

00:01:20.000 They are known as the New World Order, the International Crime Families, the Global Crime Syndicate.

00:01:28.000 There's a lot of talk about Bernard Carrick, the Former Police Chief of New York, Giuliani Minion.

00:01:37.000 He's in business with Homeland Security companies with Rudolph Giuliani.

00:01:42.000 They thought Giuliani would be the head of Homeland Security, but why have to give up any of his business?

00:01:48.000 He can just send his Minion, Bernard, in there, and he can take care of it for everybody.

00:01:55.000 You know, Giuliani's making hundreds of millions of dollars himself, his company, billions of dollars off of terrorism.

00:02:03.000 It's been quite lucrative in the government.

00:02:06.000 The neocon-controlled government comes and gives Giuliani for doing such a good job on 9-11 covering up everything.

00:02:13.000 They come and give him the contracts.

00:02:14.000 It's a great system.

00:02:16.000 It's not free market, my friends.

00:02:20.000 These people are not conservatives.

00:02:22.000 But even the Associated Press and the New York Daily News and conservatives and liberals are going, Bernard Keurig, this guy, is a joke!

00:02:33.000 Just like Alberto, I love Torture Gonzales, and the rest of the people that Bush is replacing his cabinet with.

00:02:43.000 If it was possible, all of the choices, all the replacements are far worse than those previously in those positions.

00:02:53.000 You get rid of Colin Powell, you put in Condi Rice, who will take whatever propaganda the neocons are spewing and up it three or four times in decibel level.

00:03:02.000 He got Alberto Gonzales who was writing up the torture memos and Bush's above the law memos and Patriot Act 2 stuff for Ashcroft to try to pass.

00:03:12.000 So you take the minion out and put the brain in with him and then with Bernard Carrick, this guy, it would take an hour just to cover all the horrible things he's been involved in.

00:03:27.000 But we'll speed through some of these later in this first hour.

00:03:32.000 Plus an article by Jim Moore, What Our Fathers Knew.

00:03:34.000 We are yet to learn.

00:03:37.000 I want to go over this article.

00:03:38.000 A lot of editorials out there exposing the police state.

00:03:43.000 Iran rejects any deal with the International Atomic Energy Agency over nuclear report.

00:03:54.000 Think about North Korea.

00:03:55.000 They say, just bring it on, we're going to nuke you.

00:03:57.000 And we go, oh no sir, we love you.

00:03:59.000 Oh, you're so good.

00:04:00.000 But then Iran lets in all these UN inspectors that tear everything apart, and they get spanked for it. 0.93

00:04:07.000 So I guess they're doing what the globalists wanted all along, starting to pull out of this stuff.

00:04:10.000 Rumsfeld will remain at the Pentagon.

00:04:14.000 Guess they couldn't find anyone more evil to replace him with.

00:04:19.000 I'm serious.

00:04:20.000 So they're keeping him Bush told U.S.

00:04:23.000 News & World Report a few weeks ago that they're going to have a big shift in the cabinet because a lot of these people aren't energetic enough carrying out the policies.

00:04:32.000 But obviously Rumsfeld is, so he stays.

00:04:36.000 Shopping mall security guards in the U.S.

00:04:38.000 are being taught to spot suicide bombers.

00:04:40.000 We're all terrorists.

00:04:41.000 Villagers vow to fight private jail.

00:04:43.000 Wait to hear about this.

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00:04:54.000 But they're not torturing anybody, they're just going to torture you and use it in court.

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00:08:04.000 Big Brother.

00:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

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00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:21.000 The history of the world is example after example.

00:08:35.000 It's filled with case point real world demonstrations of power mad leaders feeding on the population, dumbing the population down, enslaving the population.

00:08:50.000 It is the nature of control freaks.

00:08:53.000 It is the nature of individuals that get into positions of ultra power.

00:08:58.000 Because a normal person becomes happy and wealthy at a upper middle class level and doesn't seek any more power because their needs have been met.

00:09:09.000 Only in almost every case do we see the sociopathic control freak getting in to control.

00:09:18.000 It is the great exception when you get somebody who isn't like that in control.

00:09:26.000 I mean the subterfuge of a Byzantine court in Italy 500, 600 years ago.

00:09:34.000 Or the barbaric practices in England, or Japan, or what is Latin America today with the Indians of that culture. 1.00

00:09:45.000 Cultures.

00:09:47.000 Or the Babylonians, or the Egyptians, or the Greeks.

00:09:52.000 Total enslavement, total domination, Because the elite knew, and even wrote handbooks and stone tablets on, their reasons for dumbing down and dominating the people using feudalism and serfdom.

00:10:08.000 Because that knocked out any chance of anyone ever getting up through the cracks and basically deposing them of new elites forming that might dominate and overthrow their power structure.

00:10:21.000 So people ask, well, why would the elite want to hurt us or take our rights?

00:10:31.000 Well, why is that the case in every case in history with no exceptions?

00:10:36.000 Until you see the United States and what became modern America.

00:10:44.000 But you talk to a yuppie, you talk to a know-it-all, you talk to your average Joe Six-Pack Sally soccer mom, they just go, governments are perfect, they've never done anything wrong.

00:10:54.000 You're weird because you say we should watch them and keep control of government.

00:10:59.000 And I say to that, have you ever read the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution?

00:11:04.000 Have you ever read the Federalist Papers or the Anti-Federalist Papers?

00:11:09.000 I've read a lot of them.

00:11:10.000 It's all about controlling government, how dangerous it is, how despots always get into control, how precious liberty and freedom is.

00:11:23.000 But the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist, and that old adage or cliche fits nicely into what we see today.

00:11:32.000 These evil people Robbing and ruling and basically raping society with all these big space age PR firms pumping out propaganda of how it's all for our own good and how much they care about us. 0.99

00:11:50.000 And you've got all these useful idiot minions in and out of government at every level and every facet of society, every strata, buying into this! 0.99

00:12:01.000 And because you feed off the system itself, you go ahead and make excuses for it! 0.99

00:12:09.000 I mean, take the case of the new guy they want to be the head of Homeland Security.

00:12:22.000 I mean, literally, from conservative, liberal publications, mainstream publications, Normally mainstream media, you know, is, I mean, you could be somebody who says you admire Hitler, and his father's an open Nazi, and you support Nazis, and they'll say there's allegations you like Nazis.

00:12:37.000 You know, like they do with Arnold.

00:12:39.000 I mean, I mean, they'll normally ignore anything.

00:12:41.000 But with Bernard Keurig, nominated, uh, nomination is a ticking time bomb.

00:12:46.000 Uh, that's Newsday.

00:12:48.000 Here's Demwatch.

00:12:49.000 Keurig is not fit to serve as Homeland Security Chief.

00:12:53.000 Here's the Associated Press.

00:12:55.000 Keurig's life not all an open book.

00:13:00.000 And you read these articles.

00:13:02.000 I've got like seven articles.

00:13:03.000 That's just three of them.

00:13:04.000 Campaign bodyguard for Rudy Giuliani.

00:13:08.000 Aaron Boyd for the Saudi Royal Family.

00:13:10.000 Oh yeah.

00:13:11.000 This is what Bernard Keurig is.

00:13:12.000 Energetic exploiter of September 11th tragedy.

00:13:16.000 That is the Newsday headline.

00:13:21.000 Tough-talking publicity hound, vowing to bring law and order to Iraq, then hightailing it out of there, after a disastrous 14 weeks, leaving the place far less safe than he found it.

00:13:34.000 Oh, the bullet points of Bernie Kerik's real-life resume just go on and on, but this is really of the guy we want standing between us and the terrorists.

00:13:44.000 George W. Bush apparently thinks so.

00:13:46.000 I mean, this is the guy who called Giuliani Right before Tower 1 and 2 fell, when no one thought they would fall, and said, get out of Building 7.

00:13:57.000 Tower 1 and 2 are about to fall.

00:14:03.000 This is the guy that attacked the New York firefighters, and said they did a bad job.

00:14:08.000 And he said, their radios all malfunctioned.

00:14:13.000 Of course, it turned out none of them malfunctioned.

00:14:14.000 They were reporting bombs and At that point, whoever was listening to the audio feeds or the radio feed hit the detonators and brought the buildings down where they could disable them or do anything.

00:14:25.000 This is all on the record, by the way.

00:14:29.000 Bernie Kurek, running around on 9-11, covering up everything, helping sneak off with the voice and data recorders, which FBI and firefighters and emergency workers have all said was loaded onto four-wheelers and And then after 9-11 he starts a big security firm.

00:14:52.000 He's in business with Giuliani and they go around and get all the big fat government contracts and I guess it's okay that he's gonna stay on at that company while he's Homeland Security Chief.

00:15:02.000 Boy, that's real good!

00:15:04.000 I mean, after all, he can have Dick Cheney leave Halliburton, become VP, and then openly have big maps about where the oil's at, and weapons sales, and it's all public.

00:15:19.000 But he takes the head of the Supreme Court, or one of the heads of it, Anthony Scalia, one of the justices, on a couple different all-expense-paid trips.

00:15:28.000 It's alright.

00:15:30.000 The week before he's to be heard in court.

00:15:36.000 I mean, how do you track all this?

00:15:38.000 How do you How do you deal with this?

00:15:43.000 White House sources were saying last night that Lennard Carrick, the scandal-scarred former commissioner of the New York Corrections and Police Departments, will be named today to take Tom Ridge's job as head of Homeland Security.

00:15:57.000 For now, let's give the Bush folks a benefit of the doubt.

00:16:00.000 Maybe they've been wowed by Kerrick's shameless swing-state Kerry bashing in Bush's behalf.

00:16:06.000 I fear another attack, and I fear the attack with Senator Kerry being in office responding to it.

00:16:11.000 Maybe they've been bullied by Giuliani's bulldog lobbying for a loyal business buddy and after-hours pal.

00:16:18.000 Oh, Carl, you can almost hear Rudy say, I won't be Attorney General, but you've got to take Bernie at Homeland Security.

00:16:26.000 Or maybe it's just that FBI background check isn't back from the field.

00:16:31.000 Whatever the reason, the White House personnel office really ought to ask some probing questions about New York and around New York.

00:16:40.000 You can bet they'll get an earful of heads up about this hard-charging, thick-necked, shaved head Lightweight!

00:16:51.000 Man, I mean, that's Newsday, folks!

00:16:56.000 There are some more reasons we should be against Eric.

00:16:59.000 But, I mean, obviously Bush knows all this.

00:17:01.000 I mean, look at Alberto Alontorchia Gonzalez.

00:17:05.000 He is one of the most radical pro-abortion people you can imagine.

00:17:10.000 Again, doesn't want you to know when your 12-year-old daughter goes to get an abortion, but your daughter has to give you a note when she goes to the zoo at public school or to the planetarium.

00:17:20.000 Or the Natural History Museum.

00:17:22.000 He's pro Open Borders.

00:17:24.000 La Raza member.

00:17:27.000 He openly promotes Open Borders.

00:17:29.000 He is vehemently anti-gun.

00:17:31.000 And do you hear one peep out of the big neocon leaders?

00:17:34.000 It's all, we've got to get Alberto in.

00:17:34.000 No.

00:17:37.000 Oh, the evil liberals are trying to stop him. 0.99

00:17:39.000 Oh, they're so evil. 1.00

00:17:41.000 Oh, those evil Democrats. 1.00

00:17:43.000 They just are racist and don't like Hispanics. 1.00

00:17:46.000 This is what they're saying. 0.99

00:17:47.000 I don't care if he's Hispanic or white or purple! 1.00

00:17:50.000 Just give us somebody who isn't a gun-grabbing, America-hating piece of filth! 0.99

00:17:56.000 Same thing with Bernard Kerrick. 0.99

00:17:59.000 Oh, man, I guess I'm anti-white because I'm against him. 1.00

00:18:04.000 That's just so stupid. 1.00

00:18:07.000 A few reasons why Bernard Kerrick is not fit to serve as Secretary of Homeland Security. 1.00

00:18:12.000 Kerrick has furthered the lie that Iraq was involved in 9-11.

00:18:19.000 Keurig does not believe in the right to free political expression.

00:18:23.000 That's well known.

00:18:23.000 Arresting people for speech.

00:18:25.000 Also from New York Newsday.

00:18:27.000 Political criticism is our enemy's best friend.

00:18:31.000 He was quoted as saying in Newsday.

00:18:33.000 Political criticism is our enemy's best friend.

00:18:35.000 Keurig may have perjured himself before the 9-11 Commission.

00:18:40.000 We've got all those in his articles there.

00:18:41.000 Keurig has extensive ties to the terrorist funding Saudi Royal Family, BBC.

00:18:48.000 Mr. Keirik says he speaks a smattering of Arabic for four years spent in Saudi Arabia training security staff.

00:18:59.000 Then it gets into how he was involved with the Saudi Royal Family page after page.

00:19:08.000 Keirik's team as head of security for the Iraqi Provisional Authority was abruptly cut short with no Explanation, contradicting months of statements Keurig had made about his long-term commitments to the job.

00:19:24.000 During the recent presidential campaign, Keurig openly employed fear as a political weapon.

00:19:33.000 Keurig's tenure as the head of New York City's Department of Corrections was marked by scandals.

00:19:39.000 Torture, you name it.

00:19:40.000 Keurig's tenure as NYPD commissioner was also marked by scandals.

00:19:45.000 Goes on and on from page after page.

00:19:49.000 I'll get more into this guy later.

00:19:50.000 I want to get into torturing you and then using it in court. 1.00

00:19:54.000 There is just so much here.

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00:24:16.000 It's a lot further along than most people know.

00:24:19.000 I mean, they've been splicing humans with animals for years.

00:24:25.000 And now in the last few weeks they've been coming out in major publications like the Washington Post and saying, oh yeah, we've got half chimpanzee, half human creatures and they don't have any rights because they're only half human.

00:24:40.000 Oh yes, we're putting human genes in the pigs so they have human blood and we can take their blood. 0.98

00:24:45.000 Just incredible stuff going on that the average person has no idea is even happening.

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00:25:05.000 Uncle Sam has his own gulag!

00:25:08.000 That's the Toronto Sun, another one.

00:25:11.000 USOK's evidence gained through torture!

00:25:15.000 I mean, no one has ever, in modern history, come into court and said, we tortured people, But, again, we've hit new lows.

00:25:28.000 You've got to love the double think.

00:25:29.000 We're not torturing, but we're going to use the evidence from where we tortured people.

00:25:33.000 Post 9-11 police powers are turned on Americans, the Roanoke Times, another mainstream news article, replete with examples, nothing to do with terrorism.

00:25:43.000 Massachusetts gets electronic gun fingerprinting, it's coming to a state near you, Associated Press, going to make you thumb scan.

00:25:52.000 Navy investigates new set of Iraqi prisoner photos.

00:25:56.000 This is from the AP as well.

00:25:58.000 It's all up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:26:02.000 We have some of the photos and I think this was released on purpose.

00:26:08.000 I think this is a staged event.

00:26:09.000 I'll tell you why.

00:26:10.000 All the Navy SEALs just accidentally loaded onto the web pictures of themselves.

00:26:17.000 Give me a break.

00:26:18.000 Just give me a break.

00:26:20.000 Shopping mall security guards in the U.S.

00:26:22.000 are being taught to spot suicide bombers.

00:26:25.000 That, too, out of the AP.

00:26:26.000 Why, they're just everywhere.

00:26:28.000 There's terrorists everywhere.

00:26:29.000 Of course, they also tell them, because you may not find terrorists, go ahead and look for other crimes.

00:26:35.000 Did you see a parent spank their child at the mall? 0.99

00:26:38.000 Go ahead and call the police.

00:26:39.000 It's terrorism.

00:26:42.000 So that's just some of what's coming up.

00:26:45.000 But this, out of Toronto Sun today, Uncle Sam has his own gulag!

00:26:53.000 Behaving like the Soviet police won't make America safer! 1.00

00:26:58.000 By Eric Marigold.

00:27:01.000 The Lubyanka prison heavy oak main door swung open.

00:27:07.000 I went in.

00:27:08.000 The first western journalist to enter the KGB's notorious Moscow headquarters.

00:27:13.000 A place so dreaded, Russians dared not utter its name.

00:27:18.000 When they referred to it all, they called it... Desky Mirror, after a nearby toy store.

00:27:26.000 After interviewing two senior KGB generals, I explored the fascinating museum of Soviet intelligence, and was briefed on special poisons and assassination weapons that left no trace.

00:27:38.000 I sat transfixed at the desk, until by all the directors of Stalin's secret police, on which the orders were assigned to murder 30 million people.

00:27:48.000 But it was to stop terrorists, remember?

00:27:50.000 Yeah, it was to stop terrorists.

00:27:53.000 Enemy terrorists everywhere.

00:27:55.000 They had to put their officers in black masks to protect their identity.

00:27:59.000 They had to arrest the people.

00:28:01.000 Descending dimly lit stairs, I saw some of the KGB's execution and torture cellars, and special cold rooms where naked prisoners were beaten, then doused with ice water and slowly frozen.

00:28:12.000 Other favored Lubyanka tortures. 0.78

00:28:15.000 Psychological terror.

00:28:16.000 Something we all go through daily with the news.

00:28:19.000 Psychotropic drugs.

00:28:20.000 Which 50% of our children are on.

00:28:22.000 Prolonged sleep deprivation.

00:28:24.000 Dazzling lights.

00:28:25.000 Intense noise.

00:28:26.000 Days in pitch black darkness.

00:28:28.000 Isolation.

00:28:29.000 Humiliation.

00:28:30.000 Constant threats.

00:28:31.000 Savage beatings.

00:28:32.000 Attacks by guard dogs. 1.00

00:28:33.000 Why they do that when the And the Red Sox win and then kill young women. 1.00

00:28:40.000 Nightmares from the past, but the past has returned.

00:28:43.000 And then it goes into four pages of the exact things listed here being done by our government.

00:28:55.000 And I see reports every week of where they torture people in America at the prisons and the jails, but it never gets out more than the local newspaper and nobody really gets in trouble.

00:29:03.000 It's a big deal when it's the so-called terrorists it's happening to, because then we say, oh, they're terrorists, do it!

00:29:08.000 You see, so it's legitimized.

00:29:10.000 They don't like to bring it out nationally when it's citizens.

00:29:13.000 Blond-haired, blue-eyed, black people, Hispanics.

00:29:16.000 No, no, they don't like to do that because that would scare you.

00:29:19.000 No, it's just for those turban people, but let's legitimize it, though. 0.98

00:29:23.000 So we can do it to you out in the open.

00:29:26.000 This is out of the AP as well.

00:29:28.000 USOK's evidence gained through torture.

00:29:31.000 There's open admission.

00:29:32.000 So we'll finish up these articles, then take your calls.

00:29:35.000 1-800-259-9231 We don't have guests till the bottom of the next hour, so we've got plenty of time to take calls.

00:29:44.000 1-800-259-9231 Chronicling the Sovietization when we get back.

00:29:50.000 PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

00:29:54.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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00:33:11.000 Coming up later, we've got a little four-minute video piece, the audio of it, from the University of Calgary, up in Canada, talking about how deadly mercury is.

00:33:21.000 Of course, our local news, national news now, says it's nutritious and good for you.

00:33:27.000 So I wanted to air this.

00:33:28.000 And then also a little NBC piece about chips under the skin to get in the nightclubs, not just over in Europe now, but starting here in America.

00:33:38.000 And of course, we interviewed some of those folks last week.

00:33:42.000 And we're also about to take some of your phone calls.

00:33:44.000 Those clips are going to come up early in the next hour.

00:33:47.000 But before I do that, before I go to Richard and Robert and Tim and many others, I want to go over a little bit more of this torture niche.

00:33:59.000 Now remember, after 9-11, when they knew that we were all very upset and very pliable psychologically, within hours, they said, this is going to change America forever.

00:34:09.000 You're going to have to give your rights up.

00:34:11.000 Torture may be needed.

00:34:12.000 Then Rumsfeld got on TV and said, we're torturing people.

00:34:15.000 It was a great celebration in the first year.

00:34:19.000 Then when people saw the images of dogs biting people, and people being beaten to death, and the Army report came out, and they suppressed the photos of raping and killing women in front of their husbands, and raping small children and beating them in front of their families, and they admitted in the Army's own report that 75 to 90 percent of those at the 32 camps in Iraq were completely, totally innocent, just picked up at checkpoints, and we've aired the NBC piece from last week,

00:34:45.000 Tom Brokaw's last broadcast where they talked about how if you don't have your ID card in order, they go ahead and kill you on the spot.

00:34:53.000 Well, that's even worse than torture. 0.99

00:34:54.000 While your ID card's not in order, we're just gonna kill you. 1.00

00:34:57.000 Just all calm out in the open. 0.97

00:34:58.000 But then when we saw all these images, it was, we never did that!

00:35:01.000 It was just a few rogue people! 0.99

00:35:03.000 This is ridiculous! 0.98

00:35:04.000 And it turns out, of course, it was orders from on high. 0.97

00:35:09.000 U.S.

00:35:10.000 OKs evidence gained through torture.

00:35:12.000 Evidence gained by torture can be used by the U.S.

00:35:14.000 military in deciding whether to imprison a foreigner indefinitely in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as an enemy combatant, the government says.

00:35:22.000 This is out of Associated Press.

00:35:24.000 Statements produced under torture have been admissible in U.S.

00:35:28.000 courts for about 70 years, but the U.S.

00:35:31.000 military panel reviewing the detention Of 550 foreigners as enemy combatants at the U.S.

00:35:37.000 Naval Base in Cuba are allowed to use such evidence.

00:35:41.000 Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General Brian Boyle of Boyle on Humanity acknowledged at a U.S.

00:35:49.000 District Court hearing Thursday some of the prisoners have filed lawsuits challenging their detention without charges for up to three years so far.

00:35:58.000 At the hearing, Boyle urged District Judge Richard J. Leon to throw their cases out.

00:36:04.000 Also some U.S.

00:36:05.000 citizens there at that base.

00:36:07.000 Attorney for the prisoners argued that some were held solely on evidence gained by torture, which they said violated fundamental fairness and the U.S.

00:36:15.000 due process standards.

00:36:17.000 But Boyle argued in a similar hearing Wednesday that the detainees have no constitutional rights enforceable in this court.

00:36:29.000 Okay.

00:36:31.000 So, they can torture somebody, and by the way folks, when they got you on a rack, or electrodes up to you, shocking you, or hanging you up by your ankles, or by your wrist, you break. 0.97

00:36:46.000 When they keep you in a freezing cell, at Guantanamo, and this is mainstream news, they brought in prostitutes who were menstruating, And forced, tied the Muslims down, and then they think they're going to hell because of that. 0.96

00:37:06.000 And had the women perform acts on them. 1.00

00:37:09.000 I mean, this is how perverted it got.

00:37:13.000 By the way, I posted a video of Bush flipping people off, and I got a few complaints.

00:37:16.000 How dare you put that up on the site?

00:37:17.000 That's profane.

00:37:18.000 Hey, it's your president doing it.

00:37:20.000 And I post quotes of Arnold and Esquire using profanity and saying horrible things about women.

00:37:26.000 You're like, how dare you post something profane?

00:37:28.000 Hey, it's our leaders, our governors and our presidents doing it. 0.97

00:37:31.000 And I'm sorry if they sent prostitutes in to do this to the people. 0.95

00:37:35.000 You know, just a few of you don't get it. 0.70

00:37:37.000 Okay?

00:37:38.000 We're reporting the news.

00:37:39.000 This is what they're doing.

00:37:40.000 Anything to stand denial, I understand.

00:37:48.000 Anything to deny what's going on.

00:37:51.000 I'm not talking to the general listeners, but some of you out there.

00:37:54.000 You know, get out of denial.

00:37:57.000 Start realizing what we're dealing with here.

00:38:02.000 So here they are saying, we can torture you, and then use that in court.

00:38:08.000 I mean, the Soviets, the Nazis, no one.

00:38:12.000 The last time this went on was the Inquisition.

00:38:16.000 And then they still instructed you to say that you did this under no duress, even though it wasn't true.

00:38:24.000 I mean, now?

00:38:27.000 And by the way, they say 70 years ago.

00:38:29.000 That was when we had rulings on it 70 years ago.

00:38:31.000 We didn't need rulings on this in this country.

00:38:39.000 You know, that's not true.

00:38:40.000 The last time wasn't the Inquisition.

00:38:41.000 The Salem Witch Hunts.

00:38:45.000 The Salem Witch Hunts, based on what a schizophrenic girl thought, they did torture people, publicly kill them. 0.86

00:38:54.000 You know, putting, uh, giant boulders on top of people until they finally die.

00:38:59.000 Another boulder? 0.99

00:39:00.000 Admit you're a witch! 1.00

00:39:01.000 Gonna put another boulder on you! 1.00

00:39:05.000 I guess that's the last time that I know of in Western civilization.

00:39:12.000 I mean, come on, folks! 0.92

00:39:15.000 We're gonna torture them!

00:39:16.000 But we never tortured them!

00:39:17.000 And we never said torture.

00:39:18.000 It was people all by themselves, posing for photographs, laughing.

00:39:22.000 Right in the middle of the cell block.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, I'm sure the jail guards just did that. 0.99

00:39:27.000 And again, the media shows them making people perform sex acts on each other, and the media goes, oh, it's just fun.

00:39:35.000 Oh, even the neocons say, I did that in fraternities.

00:39:37.000 Man, they should have to pay to have that done to them.

00:39:40.000 You know, this is the sickness now.

00:39:42.000 Christian conservatives listen and go, yeah, yeah, it's Christian. 0.99

00:39:45.000 All the perverted stuff. 0.84

00:39:47.000 Literally, I've heard them.

00:39:48.000 You know, they're just having fun.

00:39:50.000 But then they show a few photos of people beaten to death, and well, they deserve it. 0.87

00:39:53.000 But what about all the photos, the thousands of photos and videos that senators have admitted they've seen that show killing people, raping people, we're talking women, children. 0.99

00:40:03.000 How do you get your sick mind around that and make an excuse? 0.97

00:40:09.000 But now, then you deny that, oh, the government was behind it. 0.93

00:40:13.000 Sure, these people just did this all on their lonesome, all by themselves.

00:40:20.000 And so, then they come out with Double Thing and go, oh, but we can use torture to get answers and use it in court.

00:40:26.000 It's admissible.

00:40:28.000 I mean, folks, they put the screws to you, as the saying goes, and you are going to tell them whatever they want to hear.

00:40:36.000 Remember Vietnam?

00:40:40.000 Our airmen would sit there, you know, weighing 100 pounds, black circles around their eyes, But more scored torture, torture, torture.

00:40:50.000 Knowing, yes, America's evil, I'm bad.

00:40:53.000 We purposely target civilians, we're evil.

00:40:56.000 People go, how dare them torture our men?

00:40:58.000 Nowadays, torture everybody.

00:41:01.000 So, maybe you don't care about people in foreign countries, but you better care about our troops when they get captured.

00:41:07.000 How are you going to say it's bad when they get tortured?

00:41:09.000 I guess you probably still say it's bad, which it still is, but you'll be double-thinking.

00:41:13.000 You'll be very upset about it, and, oh, this is horrible, this is barbaric.

00:41:19.000 And just finishing up, then I'll go to your calls.

00:41:21.000 Continuing, that was from the AP.

00:41:22.000 This is from the Toronto Sun, from the reporter who visited the famous Gulag in Moscow.

00:41:33.000 According to a report leaked to the New York Times, the Swiss-based International Red Cross has accused the Bush administration for the second time of employing systematic, medically supervised torture against suspects being held at Guantanamo Bay and at U.S.-run prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:41:49.000 The second Red Cross report was delivered to the White House last summer while it was still trying to dismiss the Abu Ghraib prison torture horrors as the crimes of a few rogue jailers.

00:41:59.000 According to the reports, allegations, many tortures perfected by the Soviet secret police, the Chika, notably beating, freezing, sensory deprivation and sleep deprivation, are now routinely being used by U.S.

00:42:12.000 investigators.

00:42:15.000 Well, yeah, they tie somebody down naked in a C-130 and Fly up to 27,000 feet and open the doors for 10 hours.

00:42:22.000 People died.

00:42:25.000 The Russian secret police, however, did not usually inflict sexual humiliation.

00:42:29.000 No, that's for the Jeffrey Dahmers of America. 0.77

00:42:32.000 That technique and hooding were developed by Israeli psychologists to break resistance of Palestinian prisoners.

00:42:38.000 Photos of sexual humiliation were used by Israeli security and then by U.S.

00:42:42.000 interrogators at Abu Ghraib to blackmail Muslim prisoners into becoming informants.

00:42:47.000 All of these practices flagrantly violate the Geneva Conventions internationally and American law.

00:42:52.000 The Pentagon and CIA gulags in Cuba, Iraq and Afghanistan have become a sort of Enron-style, off-the-books operation immune from American law or congressional oversight.

00:43:05.000 Suspects reportedly disappeared to a black hole, recalling Latin American torture camps and disappearings of the 1970s and 80s of the Arab world's sinister secret police presence.

00:43:17.000 The U.S.

00:43:18.000 has been sending high-level anti-American suspects to Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, and reportedly Pakistan.

00:43:25.000 Yeah, the former CIA Deputy Director admitted that in 2001 after he talked about taking people to third-party countries to torture them.

00:43:33.000 Pakistan, there is alleged, or brutally tortured in violent electric shots, savage beatings, drownings, acid baths, and blow-torching, the same tortures, ironically, ascribed to Saddam Hussein.

00:43:45.000 He was our man!

00:43:46.000 Trained! 1.00

00:43:48.000 A train to take out Soviets, train to take out, to kill, to torture, to bomb, of course! 0.98

00:43:52.000 Our government paid for the prisons that they've now reoccupied!

00:43:56.000 You didn't know that our torture trainers, whose predecessors were trained by Nazis, went over and trained Saddam's people how to do it? 0.65

00:44:03.000 You didn't know that?

00:44:04.000 It's all public!

00:44:06.000 Why there's rape rooms and torture rooms, how do we know? 0.57

00:44:09.000 Because we built them!

00:44:14.000 Heaven help us.

00:44:15.000 And the article goes on and on.

00:44:17.000 I mean, there's two more pages.

00:44:18.000 I'm not going to read any more because it gets too bad to read.

00:44:21.000 It's on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

00:44:25.000 You want to go and read it for yourself.

00:44:27.000 Let's take a few calls here.

00:44:30.000 Thanks for holding.

00:44:30.000 Richard in Nebraska.

00:44:32.000 Welcome, sir.

00:44:33.000 You're on the air.

00:44:34.000 Yeah, I was just listening to Matt George last night.

00:44:38.000 He mentioned that under this new Congressional Spending Bill, the Internal Revenue Service was given the authority to hire and use the services of independent bill collectors.

00:44:52.000 And...

00:44:53.000 And the salaries were going to be out of the percentage they're able to get out of people.

00:44:58.000 Everything is going to private.

00:45:01.000 Private prisons with private guards owned by the people that own our government that carried out 9-11. 0.99

00:45:08.000 The drug dealers, the real crime families, when they bust some little Mexican drug lord or some Venezuelan drug lord, it's somebody who didn't pay their cut.

00:45:16.000 The drug dealers are the same people that carried out the terror attacks.

00:45:21.000 They're the same people that own the prisons, that own the surveillance camera companies.

00:45:25.000 They own it all.

00:45:27.000 They own it all.

00:45:29.000 Yes, I was aware of that.

00:45:31.000 They also passed it where the Senate can look at your IRS records and use it for blackmail. 0.93

00:45:36.000 Yeah, that's so disgusting.

00:45:40.000 Sounds like freedom to me, doesn't it to you?

00:45:41.000 Oh, luckily I was raised in an era where they taught you what freedom actually was.

00:45:51.000 I thought freedom was torture rooms, and I thought freedom was arresting veterans who complained too much and charging them with terrorism.

00:46:00.000 And then Homeland Security was in the Quad City Times and said, well he didn't threaten anybody, but he complained too much, and that takes up our time, and that's terrorism.

00:46:09.000 So we're going to go ahead and arrest this veteran, this doctor who complained too much.

00:46:12.000 He sued us, and that's a terrorist act.

00:46:15.000 Oh yeah, well that just sounds as... Or this woman was selling knockoff Rubik's Cubes. 1.00

00:46:20.000 We're going to send Homeland Security out. 0.63

00:46:22.000 Oh, that was really disgusting.

00:46:26.000 Oh, and I guess there's really nothing else I can say about it, except something else.

00:46:34.000 I was listening to another program after him, and now they're actually saying that one guy with an arm, they're saying that when a person's belief in God is actually a form of a brain disorder.

00:46:53.000 I mean, what are people saying?

00:46:55.000 Thank you. 0.80

00:46:56.000 So you heard another show saying believing in the right to own guns is mentally ill. 0.70

00:47:00.000 Yeah, oh, that.

00:47:02.000 But be clear, is that what the person was saying?

00:47:05.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:47:06.000 I don't understand you.

00:47:07.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:47:09.000 This was, I think, following, following... I said you were listening to another program and what did they say?

00:47:16.000 They said that persons of belief in Christianity Okay, thank you for the call.

00:47:28.000 I appreciate it.

00:47:29.000 I thought you said done for some reason. 0.77

00:47:31.000 Because they are teaching police and military and social workers that belief in the Second Amendment, folks I'm not joking, is a mental illness. 0.87

00:47:40.000 They teach the social workers, this is back in the fifties, but now it's mainstream that belief in Christianity is mental illness. 0.95

00:47:46.000 They're teaching them that homeschoolers' parents are mentally ill and may be terrorists. 0.92

00:47:51.000 Actually, say they're terrorists in handbooks. 0.96

00:47:53.000 I even have FEMA on tape saying all this.

00:47:55.000 I have their documents.

00:47:57.000 And it's like the Soviet Union. 1.00

00:47:59.000 Again, you're mentally ill if you believe in freedom. 0.98

00:48:01.000 And under the new freedom initiative, you may need to be forced drugged or taken away. 1.00

00:48:06.000 I'm not joking!

00:48:08.000 Robert in Colorado.

00:48:10.000 Robert, you're on the air.

00:48:10.000 Go ahead.

00:48:12.000 Good morning, Alexander.

00:48:13.000 Thanks so much for taking my call.

00:48:14.000 I appreciate it.

00:48:15.000 Great shows Thursday and Friday.

00:48:16.000 It was kind of a weird day Friday.

00:48:18.000 Your phone system was down, as you know.

00:48:19.000 We couldn't get through.

00:48:20.000 But it was a good thing we got to listen to all your guests.

00:48:23.000 And I really like James Spencer.

00:48:24.000 Please have him on again.

00:48:25.000 Give him, like, two hours.

00:48:26.000 That guy is incredible.

00:48:28.000 I heard him on Coast to Coast a few months back, and he really has his finger on the pulse of JFK and all that good stuff.

00:48:33.000 Anyway, two or three quick First off, did you know that Cynthia McKinney was re-elected on November 2nd from the 4th District back to the U.S. 1.00

00:48:42.000 I did, and again, they had a little election and manipulated things and kicked her out. 1.00

00:48:42.000 Congress? 1.00

00:48:46.000 I don't agree with her on a lot of subjects, but she's now anti-UN, talks about how they kidnapped children, she's anti-Big Pharma, she went public and said we should have a real investigation on 9-11, and the polls show that she was supported, but somehow they kicked her out of office.

00:49:01.000 She was re-elected, yes.

00:49:03.000 That's great, that's great.

00:49:04.000 I was surprised to hear that when I saw it on a website last week.

00:49:08.000 Um, Ben Foster.

00:49:10.000 Um, what do you know about him?

00:49:12.000 Talk a little about him, his role in the Clinton administration, why he wound up dead.

00:49:16.000 Well, Bush has moved to block the release of that poor Clinton. 0.88

00:49:20.000 It's like he protected Bill Clinton and told Dan Burton's congressional committee to leave Bill Clinton alone.

00:49:26.000 First thing he did, we could have Bill Clinton behind bars, but you watch Bush, he's not going to try to block Clinton becoming U.N.

00:49:31.000 Secretary General in a year and a half.

00:49:33.000 So, just to the neocons out there again, I hope you're proud of yourself, protecting Bill Clinton as usual.

00:49:38.000 But, he was what, the Chief of Staff?

00:49:41.000 The Chief Counsel, excuse me.

00:49:43.000 Chief Counsel, and he knew where all the skeletons were buried.

00:49:47.000 And he was saying he wouldn't cover that up.

00:49:49.000 And then the last straw was he had been reported that he was depressed and sad because he knew they sent Delta Force in to kill the children.

00:49:57.000 He saw those memos that are now public.

00:50:00.000 He supposedly was crying.

00:50:02.000 They had tapped his phone.

00:50:03.000 He said, look, I'm not into killing kids.

00:50:05.000 I don't mind, you know, getting all this money through these savings and loans and stuff.

00:50:08.000 But he said, and they had to just get rid of him.

00:50:11.000 He had gotten soft.

00:50:13.000 So he literally knew too much, they were afraid he was going to tell him.

00:50:15.000 And said it was suicide even though his fingerprints were not on the gun.

00:50:18.000 That's all admitted.

00:50:19.000 And said it was suicide even though his fingerprints were not on the gun.

00:50:23.000 It wasn't even the same gun.

00:50:24.000 They carpet cleaned and scrubbed the walls of the office, even did some painting.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 They blew his head off in the office with a silencer, and they drug him out there to the woods and threw an old World War I handgun at his feet.

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01:00:59.000 ...that are patiently holding.

01:01:01.000 Tim in Ohio, you're on the air worldwide.

01:01:04.000 Go ahead, Tim.

01:01:05.000 Good day, Alex.

01:01:06.000 Hello.

01:01:07.000 I caught an article over the weekend in USA Today when they were talking about the amendment for Arnold and more about Bernie Herrick here.

01:01:16.000 A lot of them are reporting that he has a college degree, but no one is reporting from where.

01:01:20.000 Is that some big secret?

01:01:22.000 Is it from like the University of Austria or something like that?

01:01:27.000 Well, you know, that's the big joke here is, I mean, when the AP and Newsday come out and attack him and talk about more dirt than you can shake a stick at, and they just tell people, quote, look around, I mean, he's basically a mob chief.

01:01:42.000 Okay?

01:01:43.000 And we're going to go over some of that.

01:01:44.000 I hooked him with the Saudis, covered up 9-11. 0.97

01:01:47.000 I mean, it goes on and on and on and on and on.

01:01:49.000 I mean, here's Newsday, Keurig, nomination is a ticking time bomb.

01:01:54.000 Demwatch, Keurig is not fit to serve as Homeland Security Chief.

01:01:56.000 AP, Keurig's life, not all an open book.

01:02:00.000 I mean, it's amazing.

01:02:03.000 But talking about that Arnold Schwarzenegger article, a cover story this weekend, USA Today, it says Alex Jones raises allegations that Arnold's dad was a Nazi.

01:02:16.000 That's like saying there's allegations the sun came up this morning.

01:02:19.000 Or allegations Arnold is from Austria.

01:02:22.000 Or allegations that Bush was governor of Texas.

01:02:25.000 Forget allegations of his dad.

01:02:27.000 It's admitted fact that he said he admires Hitler.

01:02:30.000 And then he goes and campaigns for Nazis. 0.74

01:02:34.000 Now it's an allegation that his dad was a Nazi.

01:02:38.000 Yeah, they switch it all around, but it seems to me that Carrick would fit in with this group perfectly. 0.89

01:02:44.000 It's almost like, you know, Bill Clinton's mother was an admitted known prostitute and he was nurtured and raised just for this position.

01:02:53.000 He fits right in.

01:02:54.000 And another interesting thing, too, is Friday on CNN they were interviewing Rudy Giuliani and he said that There was no way that he could have, his quote was, I cannot be the Homeland Security Chief.

01:03:09.000 And I thought back and I said, well, maybe that's because he was knighted by the Queen of England after 9-11, and anyone that's been knighted is not supposed to hold any position.

01:03:18.000 Yes, she knighted him.

01:03:18.000 Good job.

01:03:19.000 Well done, Lord Giuliani.

01:03:22.000 But it's worse than that.

01:03:23.000 Giuliani is making hundreds of millions of dollars, personally, off of 9-11 contracts now.

01:03:31.000 You know he runs a big security firm with Keurig.

01:03:35.000 Did you know that?

01:03:36.000 Maybe Marvin Bush taught him the ropes, huh?

01:03:38.000 Oh, Marvin Bush that ran security for the World Trade Center?

01:03:41.000 Right.

01:03:42.000 Oh, you mean that one?

01:03:43.000 Yeah, that one.

01:03:45.000 They did a great job working together.

01:03:47.000 They achieved wonderful things, didn't they?

01:03:50.000 Thanks for the call.

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01:07:05.000 I'm talking about this Bernard Kurek, the Saudi royal family toady, the 9-11 whitewasher, cover-up commander, all the corruption probes, connections to mafia, all of it, he's perfect. 0.87

01:07:19.000 Got all this dirt on him, good little creature.

01:07:22.000 But I wonder what's going to happen.

01:07:24.000 You know, Giuliani did get knighted after 9-11, and everybody got promotions to help block FBI and CIA that tried to stop it.

01:07:31.000 Those that tried to stop it got fired or killed or demoted.

01:07:35.000 I wonder if the globalists nuke a city or smallpox us.

01:07:38.000 I can imagine all the awards they'll get.

01:07:41.000 You know, even on the surface, quote, for not saving us, not stopping it, they'll still give each other awards and we'll thank them.

01:07:47.000 Oh, you're such leaders.

01:07:48.000 How you responded to the disaster.

01:07:51.000 They'll be like, oh, we're so sorry.

01:07:53.000 We have to run your whole life and own the companies that are taking over the society and setting up the police state. 0.93

01:07:58.000 It's so tough on us.

01:08:01.000 Uh-oh! 0.98

01:08:02.000 Killing America is such a tough job, but somebody's got to do it! 0.76

01:08:07.000 Let's talk to Bill in Pennsylvania. 0.90

01:08:09.000 Bill, go ahead.

01:08:10.000 Hi, Alex.

01:08:12.000 How you doing?

01:08:12.000 Good.

01:08:13.000 Nice to talk to you and your audience.

01:08:15.000 Basically, what this is is kind of a quiz for you and a comment.

01:08:22.000 It's sort of a Jeopardy-style quiz, and I guess the subject is recent Bush appointees or proposed appointees and The question is, who bears a striking resemblance to a cross between Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini?

01:08:39.000 I'd have to say, um, I tell ya, uh, the Kellogg's executive looks a little like that, but so does Bernard Kerrick.

01:08:49.000 There you go!

01:08:49.000 You got it!

01:08:50.000 You got, you won the contest, Alex!

01:08:52.000 Why, because both of them do?

01:08:54.000 Well, no, basically, I was thinking Bernard Kerrick, because I don't know the other gentleman you were referring to.

01:09:00.000 I went online and I was checking out Bernard Carrick because I was curious about him and checking his background.

01:09:12.000 And when I saw his picture, I thought, "My God, this guy looks like a cross between Hitler No, I mean, yeah, he's a little bulldog.

01:09:20.000 Yeah, and I thought... He's got the shaved head and the little Hitler mustache. 0.56

01:09:23.000 Better representation, which one to accomplish.

01:09:26.000 And also, uh... I mean, maybe that's how you get elected.

01:09:29.000 You're like Bill Clinton says, I'd like to be a dictator.

01:09:31.000 Yeah.

01:09:32.000 George Bush says it.

01:09:34.000 Arnold says it.

01:09:34.000 You surround yourself... Oh, you love Hitler?

01:09:36.000 My gosh!

01:09:37.000 You surround yourself with minions that look exactly like what the prior dictators had in their administration.

01:09:43.000 But anyway, in a follow-up... He looks a little like Heinrich Himmler at the same time, too.

01:09:47.000 He looks more like Himmler, because Himmler had the real short haircut and the little mustache.

01:09:51.000 And I know appearances can be deceiving, but, Bill, you have to sort of, you know, take it with a grain of salt, but you have to look... Well, for those that just joined us, I mean, this is Newsday.

01:10:02.000 Yeah.

01:10:02.000 Keurig nomination is a ticking time bomb.

01:10:05.000 Campaign bodyguard to Rudolph Giuliani.

01:10:07.000 Aaron Boyd with the Saudi Roll family.

01:10:09.000 Right.

01:10:10.000 Energetic explorer of September 11th tragedy.

01:10:12.000 He goes on and on.

01:10:12.000 Go ahead.

01:10:13.000 But just a follow-up to one of your last callers that he was alluding to some kind of a college background that was sort of erroneous or nobody knew what it was.

01:10:22.000 I read an article when I did my research yesterday, and I can't remember the web page I went to, but it was a news story, and it said that Carrick mysteriously was able to be appointed as police chief without any college background whatsoever, but, and the telling thing was that any police recruit that are sort of, you know, underlings trying to get into the system have to have so many college credits.

01:10:46.000 And so there was a lot of disgruntled things going on in the background on the part of potential recruits wanting to get into the police department.

01:10:55.000 You know, that's been raised.

01:10:56.000 Thanks for the call.

01:10:57.000 Great points, Bill.

01:10:59.000 I'm hurrying through these so I can get to this news.

01:11:01.000 Mark, where are you calling us from?

01:11:04.000 Nevada.

01:11:05.000 Welcome.

01:11:05.000 Minnesota, in fact.

01:11:06.000 It's been a while since I've last called in.

01:11:10.000 Relocated down here to Nevada in August, actually.

01:11:13.000 It was a pretty interesting experience I had, Alex, because I have never really watched television.

01:11:20.000 And on my trip down here, I drove down here, and I didn't drive at night.

01:11:24.000 So I, it was like four... You were in hotel rooms and you watched TV?

01:11:28.000 Yeah, watching cable TV, particularly, you know, watching, you know, the news network.

01:11:32.000 And it was like watching The Outer Limits of the Twilight Zone?

01:11:35.000 It was like watching, no, actually, okay, I'm watching, like, Fox News, okay?

01:11:40.000 Uh, you know, just wanna, like you say, monitoring enemy transmission.

01:11:44.000 And the big, hot news story that week, this was around the end of August, It was Scott Peterson and his mistress, who I'm sure every Republican knows the name of now, Oprah, she was on jury duty, Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, Olympic athletes that pose nude in Playboy, this is Fox News, and then I really had to shut off when Fox News did a big special on the porn star.

01:12:08.000 And I'm thinking to myself... This is Christian conservatism! 0.94

01:12:12.000 You look at Fox Programming, it is the most family-destroying bilge!

01:12:17.000 And the Neo-Christian leaders, oh, it's just, it's of the Lord! 0.51

01:12:20.000 It's of the Lord!

01:12:21.000 It's of the Lord!

01:12:23.000 It's all of the Lord!

01:12:25.000 Yeah, I'm thinking to myself, this is, you know, tabloid television.

01:12:29.000 And then, when I finally got down in Nevada, I remember going through the stations again, and guess what?

01:12:33.000 They have the editor from the National Enquirer on Fox News to talk about Scott Peterson's case.

01:12:41.000 And when they're not doing that, it's how great Arnold is!

01:12:44.000 But look, it's not just Fox, it's the other channels too.

01:12:47.000 But I mean, no, Fox is like a cartoon.

01:12:50.000 You watch it and it's like El Cod is pretty evil about to get you!

01:12:53.000 But Lord Bush wants to save you!

01:12:55.000 He's so conservative!

01:12:57.000 Alberto Gonzales is conservative!

01:12:59.000 No, by the way, real quick, there was actually one thing from August, around that time, that was all over the news, that I had planned on calling in to your show about, but I've been so busy working... You'd better finish up, because I've got other callers.

01:13:14.000 Okay, Chalabi, I don't know if you recollect, but, okay, I'm trying to get this right.

01:13:19.000 Dint, supposedly... He's a convicted bank robber, torture master in Iran. 0.99

01:13:25.000 Yeah, but in August, after he said that thing about, oh, this shows that I'm not with the Americans when they did that little stage thing on his house.

01:13:35.000 Yeah.

01:13:36.000 He ran over to Iran, and then the new U.S.-led, you know, ran government... You gotta finish up.

01:13:43.000 They issued, supposedly, it was like an arrest warrant for Chalabi.

01:13:47.000 And then there's all the news, Chalabi is going back to Iraq to face the charges.

01:13:52.000 And he like, you know, wanders back to Iraq and he's like, oh yeah, I'm coming back.

01:13:56.000 And then Iraq, the new little U.S. 1.00

01:13:58.000 No, no, I hear you.

01:13:59.000 I hear you, Mark.

01:14:00.000 I appreciate the call.

01:14:00.000 I just got guests coming up.

01:14:01.000 I want to get to everybody.

01:14:03.000 Jason!

01:14:04.000 Jason in, uh, is it Arizona?

01:14:07.000 You're on the air.

01:14:08.000 Go ahead.

01:14:08.000 Yes, I have a question for you, Alex.

01:14:11.000 I have some friends around the Phoenix area and also in Tucson to do independent films, and they have access to, you know, like the screening room in Tucson and other theaters, and I was wondering, and I talked to my friends about it, running your documentary as kind of like a, I would say, independent film format sort of thing.

01:14:31.000 I was wondering if that would be okay to do?

01:14:36.000 Yeah, you can air the video to crowds, you just can't start a national tour with it and charge for it.

01:14:42.000 Okay, because that's another thing I was concerned about because I think they would charge unless I would put some sort of flyer saying this is a free showing and no worries.

01:14:53.000 Well, I don't care if people charge for the film to show, I'm just saying you can't then go around and nationally distribute it.

01:14:58.000 No, no, this is just like a local thing.

01:15:01.000 I was wondering if other people in the country have done the same thing.

01:15:04.000 Yes, hundreds.

01:15:05.000 Okay, because I want to really get it started here in Arizona and stuff and get the word out.

01:15:10.000 What I would suggest you do is buy 50 copies from me and then sell them while you're there too.

01:15:15.000 That's something good to do.

01:15:16.000 Yeah, I've been making copies and handing them out to friends and stuff.

01:15:21.000 I'm glad you mentioned that.

01:15:22.000 I just wanted to be sure if that was okay.

01:15:24.000 No, that's my goal, is to get it out to people.

01:15:26.000 Because we also have all the equipment to do a TV spot, and I could probably...

01:15:32.000 I'm drafting an against Arnold commercial, and I want to send it in to you.

01:15:37.000 Oh, by the way, I'm glad you mentioned that.

01:15:39.000 Folks, people have to get this to me in the next few weeks, and we've only gotten a few things in.

01:15:43.000 Millions of visitors and only a few audio commercials and a few videos.

01:15:48.000 Mail them to 3001.

01:15:48.000 We're going to have a $2,000 prize for the best TV ad and a $1,000 prize for the best radio ad.

01:15:53.000 You need to mail those to 3001 South Lamar Suite 100, Austin, TX 78704.

01:15:55.000 radio ad, you need to mail those to 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas 78704.

01:16:02.000 And the best one is going to win the prize.

01:16:06.000 Because I figure since I have access to all that for free, then I might as well use it and help out in the car.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, but people better get on that now.

01:16:13.000 I may extend the contest down another 15 days or something just because I haven't really been promoting it.

01:16:17.000 You know, even if it ends, and you'd still run it just for the heck of it, just to get it out.

01:16:22.000 Well, we're going to run all the spots that are decent on the website, too.

01:16:25.000 Thanks for the call.

01:16:26.000 Good to hear from you.

01:16:27.000 Let's talk to Jim.

01:16:29.000 Jim, where are you calling from?

01:16:33.000 I guess you're not calling from anywhere, Jim.

01:16:35.000 Oh, me?

01:16:36.000 Yeah, you! 0.92

01:16:36.000 Hey, how you doing? 0.92

01:16:37.000 Ah, Jim, in Michigan.

01:16:38.000 Okay, welcome!

01:16:39.000 Uh, yes.

01:16:40.000 I have a question for you, Alex.

01:16:42.000 I recently got the, uh, Dave Van Clyste film, uh, uh, showing the, that it was impossible for a plane to have hit the Pentagon, and there was a witness, even, that said it was a missile.

01:16:55.000 Well, alright, so that one, that, the movie very clearly, uh, answered that one for me, but, The question that I got is that we were told that those were all commercial airliners that hit the towers and that crashed in Pennsylvania.

01:17:12.000 Yeah, I think it's a worthwhile film and it's gotten a lot of acclaim.

01:17:16.000 I'll just tell you, I just stick to the hijackers trained by the U.S. 0.99

01:17:23.000 government, Operation Northwoods, the official government plan to carry out 9-11, the owner of Building 7 saying they blew it up, Ben Laden being known as CIA, NORAD standing down, the CIA drills of running hijacked jets into buildings that morning to make NORAD stand down.

01:17:41.000 That's the area I predominantly get into.

01:17:44.000 Well, this is factual.

01:17:45.000 Sir, sir, I've seen the film.

01:17:47.000 I'm not... Sir, sir, sir, sir, I've had Dave on.

01:17:52.000 I'm simply stating that there's different angles, different ways to go at this.

01:17:56.000 Yes sir.

01:17:58.000 My question is though, is there a name list of victims who were in those planes?

01:18:04.000 Yes there are.

01:18:06.000 Okay, that answers another question then.

01:18:09.000 Because if there is a name list and it wasn't commercial planes, then something happened to those flights and those people.

01:18:18.000 And again, that's why Dave's asking the questions.

01:18:22.000 They're important questions.

01:18:22.000 With my films, I stick to the things I can give clear answers to.

01:18:26.000 Right.

01:18:28.000 And so from both angles, it's great.

01:18:30.000 Thanks for the call.

01:18:31.000 Jim, good to hear from you.

01:18:32.000 I'm going to come back and play this NBC club about the implantable chips.

01:18:36.000 Then we've got guests coming on.

01:18:37.000 Then later I'm going to play a clip about Mercury from the University of Calgary up in Canada.

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01:23:17.000 Over the weekend, just a ton of other news.

01:23:19.000 Right now, here's a news piece talking about RFID, the radio frequency identification chips.

01:23:27.000 Go ahead and roll it.

01:23:29.000 Kea Cowpeck knows the hassle of carrying a purse and ID into a nightclub, but the idea of implanting a microchip under her skin as an alternative? 0.99

01:23:39.000 I wouldn't have anything inserted under the skin of my body.

01:23:43.000 It just seems counterintuitive.

01:23:47.000 To having a nice evening.

01:23:50.000 Heidi, the miniature schnauzer, was found months after it disappeared because of an implanted microchip.

01:23:56.000 With the Food and Drug Administration's blessing, hospitals prepared to implant the information-filled very chip under patients' skin to reduce errors.

01:24:08.000 Now it's on to the big party on South Beach as the chip is envisioned as the new-age gold key to the VIP room.

01:24:16.000 You don't have to pull out your credit cards, your driver's licenses.

01:24:20.000 You're part of a team.

01:24:21.000 You're part of an elite family.

01:24:23.000 Instead of your credit card being scanned, you would be scanned.

01:24:28.000 The owners of Amico Loft, Lounge and Discotheque currently make a copy of driver's license and credit card to start a tab.

01:24:35.000 With the Vera chip and scanner, the club only gets a barcode and a signature to verify sales.

01:24:41.000 The upscale club hopes to reduce both credit card fraud and the hassle on customers.

01:24:45.000 The thing was that people just don't know.

01:24:47.000 Amica partner Tony Guerra had to be sold on the chip.

01:24:51.000 But his fears of Big Brother watching his patrons and the possibility of identity theft It is the rage in Europe.

01:24:57.000 They can hardly get anybody to do it.

01:24:58.000 People hate it.

01:24:59.000 You can apply it to a bank or to a corporation or something that involves high security.

01:25:07.000 The chip is currently the rage in clubs in Europe, and in planting it, it's currently free.

01:25:12.000 It is the rage in Europe.

01:25:17.000 They can hardly get anybody to do it.

01:25:19.000 People hate it.

01:25:22.000 They have these chipping sessions, and four or five people show up who usually are employees.

01:25:27.000 They have that one person who is against it, and it's all just totally awesome, be the elite, be totally powerful.

01:25:33.000 and And it's wall-to-wall TV coverage.

01:25:37.000 We're now into the third year of just every week, every other major network, every week covering it.

01:25:43.000 Constant news articles, 98% of it positive.

01:25:47.000 In fact, I would call that a negative report.

01:25:50.000 Even though it was overall very positive, because at least it was someone saying something negative.

01:25:56.000 Usually, they don't even do that.

01:25:59.000 Oh, you'll have this to buy and sell.

01:26:01.000 You'll have this at the bank.

01:26:02.000 Oh, this is a wonderful system.

01:26:04.000 It's not Big Brother.

01:26:07.000 How sick do things have to get?

01:26:13.000 How more in your face?

01:26:15.000 And then it's the rage.

01:26:17.000 Everybody's getting it.

01:26:18.000 Don't you want it?

01:26:19.000 And again, about a month ago they had a CSI or CIA Miami TV show where the girl has the chip and all the good-looking women have the chip and don't you want the chip? 0.99

01:26:30.000 I mean, it's just, it's in the media, in the popular entertainment, it's in the news, and then, oh, it's the rage in Europe, we better have this in Miami!

01:26:42.000 That is just disgusting.

01:26:46.000 And they're not going to stop.

01:26:46.000 They're going to keep reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, reporting it, until we all get psychologically acclimated and used to it.

01:26:55.000 Acclimated.

01:26:56.000 But still, I'm a kook because I'm against it. 0.99

01:27:00.000 Again, I was a kook because I said the government had a plan to do this years ago because I had their own documents.

01:27:04.000 And now they're pushing it, just wall-to-wall, full-tilt boogie, pulling out all the stops.

01:27:13.000 Selling us enslavement.

01:27:14.000 Selling us slavery.

01:27:16.000 And they're setting up to do it to prisoners, to public school students, to special forces troops, the government employees telling them, hey, you don't have to take the chip, but you don't have to have a job here either.

01:27:29.000 Either you take it or you don't have a job.

01:27:33.000 And then, oh, you're the elite.

01:27:35.000 Oh, you're so powerful because you have it.

01:27:38.000 You're special.

01:27:39.000 You're VIP.

01:27:41.000 One particular Army document in January of 2000 said, the public will accept it, we're going to push it as a fad for popular culture.

01:27:51.000 They said that's one prong of the fork.

01:27:53.000 One of the other prongs is security.

01:27:56.000 Making people in government and in high security areas take it.

01:28:01.000 And you see exactly all of these facets being used, being pushed.

01:28:08.000 Imagine going and seeing a science fiction movie 20 years ago where the government is pushing, giving the public chips.

01:28:14.000 You'd laugh at it.

01:28:17.000 But see, yuppies, most yuppies, they don't have their own views.

01:28:21.000 If the media says it's popular, they will embrace it.

01:28:24.000 I've also predicted they'll pitch it as a rebellious thing to do.

01:28:27.000 Ooh, your parents don't want you to have it, but you deserve it.

01:28:30.000 There was actually a Time magazine for kids article a year and a half ago that said just that.

01:28:36.000 You're trendy.

01:28:37.000 You'll get it.

01:28:38.000 Your parents are against it.

01:28:40.000 We'll be right back.

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01:34:35.000 Now we're honored to have on Dr. David A. Prentiss.

01:34:38.000 He's a Senior Fellow for Life Sciences at the Family Research Council, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank, and an affiliated scholar for the Center for Clinical Bioethics at Georgetown University Medical Center.

01:34:49.000 And his bio goes on for about a hundred feet, so He's an expert on what's happening.

01:34:57.000 Ph.D.

01:34:58.000 in biochemistry from the University of Kansas and was at Los Alamos National Laboratory and the University of Texas Medical School Houston before joining Indiana State University where he served as Acting Associate Dean of Arts and Sciences.

01:35:10.000 On and on and on ad nauseum.

01:35:12.000 And you can check out the website where you can get more information at cloninginformation.org We've got links to that at InfoWars.com.

01:35:22.000 Dr. Prentice, good to have you on with us, sir.

01:35:24.000 Well, thanks so much.

01:35:25.000 It's a pleasure.

01:35:27.000 For those that don't know, let me just tell you a brief story in 45 seconds to open this up to try to get past that culture gap of people still thinking we're in 1950s.

01:35:39.000 A year ago, I'm picking up a pizza.

01:35:41.000 My wife wanted pizza, so I drove down to Conan's Pizza.

01:35:44.000 And I'm standing there in line and a guy walks up to me and says, I used to be a fan of your TV show and radio show. 0.99

01:35:50.000 But he said, you're a liar! 0.78

01:35:52.000 I took biology in college. 0.94

01:35:54.000 There's no such thing as cross-species in mammals.

01:35:57.000 There's no spider goats.

01:36:00.000 And you're making it up.

01:36:01.000 And I said, when were you in college?

01:36:02.000 He said, 1973.

01:36:04.000 I said, well, things have changed, sir.

01:36:05.000 It's 2003.

01:36:06.000 Now it's 2004, about to be 2005.

01:36:10.000 People, I don't think, get, doctor, how far this stuff's along.

01:36:13.000 Please tell us about it.

01:36:14.000 It really has moved at a frightening pace, Alex.

01:36:17.000 And the goats that make spiderweb in their milk, yes, there's a company in Scotland that actually made a bunch of these.

01:36:27.000 The fluorescent green monkey in France, combining different genes, the idea of combining animal and human parts as hybrids.

01:36:37.000 Right around a month or so ago, there were three prominent scientists who said, we really have to do this.

01:36:44.000 The only way we're going to move ahead is to make these combined animal-human hybrids. 0.99

01:36:48.000 This is being taken very seriously, and the science is moving very quickly.

01:36:52.000 Well, the chimeras, going back again to, what is it, Greek mythology, of three animals and one creature, they admit pigs with human blood and organs, you talked about the jellyfish genes in the rhesus monkey, correct?

01:37:07.000 Right.

01:37:09.000 I mean, literally, I have people with degrees call me, email me, and call me a liar when I've got the Washington Post posted on my website.

01:37:17.000 That's right.

01:37:17.000 I mean, this is happening.

01:37:19.000 It is very new, but it's been moving forward at an increasingly rapid pace.

01:37:23.000 I mean, let's think about it.

01:37:25.000 Dolly, this first cloned sheep, cloned mammal, was only announced in 1997.

01:37:33.000 Now, about that time, I was teaching out of what supposedly was a current textbook that said you could never clone a mammal.

01:37:40.000 Well, along comes Dolly, and the little cloned kitty, and the mice, and the cows, and so on.

01:37:45.000 I mean, this is moving very quickly.

01:37:47.000 This past February, we have out of South Korea the announcement of the first cloned human embryo.

01:37:56.000 There's no evidence that any of these sort of far-out groups like this UFO cult have actually been able to grow a human clone to birth yet.

01:38:05.000 That's the Raelians. 0.99

01:38:06.000 Right, right.

01:38:08.000 That's more of a PR, more of a PR scam.

01:38:10.000 I thought it was a great PR scam.

01:38:12.000 Now a lot of people have heard of them, but there's no evidence that they've actually done it.

01:38:16.000 But they want to do it.

01:38:17.000 There's an Italian doctor, Antonori, that wants to do it.

01:38:19.000 We've interviewed him.

01:38:20.000 He's serious.

01:38:21.000 He is very serious, as is the Kentucky specialist Zavos.

01:38:25.000 They're all serious.

01:38:27.000 They want to bring cloned human beings to birth. 0.99

01:38:30.000 But you know, a more frightening aspect to me...

01:38:33.000 Are the ones, a large number, that want to clone human embryos to use simply as spare parts or as the new laboratory rack.

01:38:41.000 And they're talking about, and again correct me Dr. Rembrandt on any of this, you're the expert, they want to grow humanoids and cows to get them larger, they want to grow them in mice to use their, I mean there's all sorts of wild stuff going on.

01:38:53.000 It is really wild, I mean all of this sounds like science fiction.

01:38:57.000 But, you know, we've kind of seen a progression here.

01:39:00.000 We saw first, well, we're going to use embryonic stem cells.

01:39:03.000 It's the great new cure-all.

01:39:05.000 One dish will make any of these tissues you want.

01:39:08.000 And then the dam just broke and now it's... Oh, in Argentina, we got humanses. 0.97

01:39:12.000 Now, I read that in the Associated Press.

01:39:14.000 Is it true that in Argentina, they're splicing human genes into chimpanzees?

01:39:18.000 Now, I haven't seen that, but it's very likely.

01:39:20.000 They put small amounts of human genes into mice, into rats.

01:39:24.000 Why not into chimpanzees?

01:39:26.000 There was a scientist at Stanford about a year ago who put a whole bunch of human brain cells into a mouse.

01:39:33.000 Yeah, I saw that one.

01:39:35.000 Things are moving along, but it kind of moved from, oh, we're only going to use a few frozen so-called spare embryos, and then we're going to know now we need to clone them.

01:39:45.000 What we found now is they don't want to stop just with the little seven-day-old cloned embryo.

01:39:52.000 They want to grow them later, and the problem is Some of these places are, you mentioned New Jersey and California.

01:39:59.000 California's Proposition 71 that passed this past November specifically would be targeted towards cloning.

01:40:07.000 New Jersey, that probably has the most liberal cloning law in the world.

01:40:13.000 Now, for those who don't know, I've had people from the Center for Bioethics and others on, other doctors, and I've read the bill on air that passed, what was it, a year ago, and it clearly says, the clone to birth, or the clone to the ninth month.

01:40:27.000 I mean, that is unbelievable.

01:40:29.000 I mean, when we look at all this legislation, people have to be very cautious in terms of, you can title this, we're going to ban human cloning, but how do they define it?

01:40:29.000 Right.

01:40:39.000 And New Jersey defines it as Making that human clone and gestating it through the point of birth.

01:40:47.000 So if you were to stop right there, take at birth this young cloned human and destroy it, you'd be perfectly within New Jersey law. 1.00

01:40:55.000 That is pure dehumanization.

01:40:57.000 You reap what you sow.

01:40:59.000 We have this attitude about the human genetic family.

01:41:04.000 I mean, if it's already gotten to this point in New Jersey, it sounds like the bottom's fallen out of hell here.

01:41:11.000 Well, it is very frightening, Alex, to think that people even are dreaming about doing this and maybe planning to do this and starting experiments.

01:41:19.000 Well, Doctor, we all know that there's a lot of secret government programs that are 20, 25 years old that we don't even know about.

01:41:26.000 I mean, if we're here, I mean, if we're, what, in England, two years after they cloned human embryos, they announced they'd done it, so isn't a lot of this stuff being done quietly?

01:41:35.000 I'm sure a lot of it is.

01:41:36.000 A lot of biotech companies are interested in this, and again, They want to grow up... You may have heard the story about the headless frog out of the UK a few years ago.

01:41:46.000 Yes.

01:41:46.000 It had a head, but they had engineered this frog genetically so that it didn't produce most of its brain.

01:41:53.000 So they then argue with humans, engineer a human without a brain, we can use the parts, or I heard one doctor on TV say, well, if we engineer a human with some chimpanzee genes, then it's not a human and doesn't have rights.

01:42:06.000 Right.

01:42:06.000 The idea that you'd have this human that Isn't fully human, whatever that means.

01:42:11.000 Whether it's removing genes for brain, or whether it's adding a bunch of animal genes.

01:42:17.000 I mean, we need to call a halt here and say, look, we need to respect all human life.

01:42:23.000 Let me ask you a question, doctor.

01:42:25.000 I was at the Republican National Convention while Bush gave his speech.

01:42:28.000 I was in there.

01:42:30.000 And I'm a conservative, which you'd call a conservative.

01:42:32.000 I mean, don't compare me to these modern neoconservatives.

01:42:35.000 But Bush is up there and he goes, I radically increased the funding for Stem Cell, but I'm also against it.

01:42:43.000 It's this double think of he's increasing the funding, but oh, I'm putting a halt to it.

01:42:48.000 What's the truth?

01:42:49.000 Well, it was sort of a compromise.

01:42:51.000 I mean, walk on a real fine line saying we're not going to use federal funds to kill more embryos, but we will give money So that we'll do research on the embryos that were already destroyed.

01:43:02.000 You know, and I have some problems with it.

01:43:04.000 It's kind of a good news, bad news situation.

01:43:07.000 What that response was, though, is very defensive.

01:43:11.000 All these people saying, hey, we need to do embryonic.

01:43:14.000 What we don't hear is the truly good news is we don't need to do embryonic.

01:43:18.000 Because the adult stem cell, I've read, is just as good.

01:43:21.000 They're better, actually.

01:43:22.000 I mean, the embryonic, keep in mind, they've had mouse embryonic for over 20 years.

01:43:28.000 They have not cured a single mouth in all that time.

01:43:31.000 The cells embryonic have problems producing tumors.

01:43:34.000 You have problems getting the cells you want.

01:43:37.000 There are all these many terrible scientific and medical problems.

01:43:40.000 And how are they going to get adult stem cells?

01:43:41.000 Just get it from donors?

01:43:43.000 Yeah, I could give my own cells.

01:43:45.000 In fact, in my lab when I was at Indiana State, I was the experimental animal.

01:43:49.000 You take a tube of blood out and we turn them into nerve cells in the dish.

01:43:53.000 People do it with bone marrow, with brain stem cells.

01:43:56.000 They've even found adult stem cells in cord blood and, believe it or not, liposuction fat.

01:44:00.000 Well, I've read literally 50 studies on this and had on a score of scientists saying what you're saying at the tops of their fields like you are, Doctor.

01:44:07.000 Well, then why then is industry still racing to knock down all the walls and set the precedent to be able to do whatever they want with babies? 0.83

01:44:16.000 Well, unfortunately, I think there's an economic incentive here.

01:44:19.000 You're not going to be able to patent my adult stem cells that you just give back to me to treat my disease, but you can.

01:44:25.000 In fact, they have patented embryonic stem cell lines, and there has been a push over the years to patent even the human embryos, especially the clones.

01:44:35.000 Now I can license them out for scientists to study, or I could make all of this money on the new laboratory rat becomes the clone human embryo.

01:44:46.000 Well, Bush just went to the U.N.

01:44:48.000 and said, OK, we're not going to push the cloning ban.

01:44:50.000 The U.N.

01:44:51.000 has now caved in on that.

01:44:55.000 And then all these scientists came out of the woodwork going, OK, we've been doing experiments once they thought the coast was clear.

01:45:00.000 Do we have any chance of stopping this?

01:45:04.000 Well, I think we do, Alex.

01:45:06.000 I think we've got to You know, redouble our efforts.

01:45:09.000 We've had some good news out of this past election in that we've got more Republican Senators and we've always had a problem banning cloning in this country because it'll pass the House of Representatives, has twice, with an overwhelming margin.

01:45:24.000 Democrats and Republicans, pro-choice and pro-life people saying we don't need to do human cloning.

01:45:29.000 Get to the Senate, it's blocked.

01:45:30.000 And Senator Brownback is going to be pushing that bill again.

01:45:34.000 Well, I think it's a federal matter, and I believe in the Tenth Amendment, but murder, if the states are carrying it out, I think the feds should get involved.

01:45:42.000 Of course, that's like asking the devil to stop the Yells-E-Bub. 1.00

01:45:44.000 But how do we force New Jersey and California to go, no, you're not going to have a human grown up to nine months and then use it for body parts.

01:45:52.000 How do we stop New Jersey?

01:45:53.000 Well, I think it does come back to the federal level.

01:45:55.000 It comes back to passing this total ban on any use of this cloning in humans.

01:46:00.000 The Brownback Bill has to get through the Senate.

01:46:04.000 We have to, you know, at the state level then, there are a lot of states that are interested in stopping this.

01:46:10.000 They realize this is just, you know, a crime against humanity to make cloned humans for whatever purpose.

01:46:16.000 But Schwarzenegger has said he wants to make California the leader.

01:46:20.000 He wants almost no controls.

01:46:22.000 Well, and of course, they passed this $3 billion for the scientists, $6 billion payback, because California's got such a terrible credit rating.

01:46:32.000 You know, they're going to see a blip in terms of people moving to feed off of that trough.

01:46:37.000 I think we may want to see if they can recall budget initiatives just like they can recall governors.

01:46:43.000 Well, Morgenthaler Jones, the head of the Amend for Arnold movement, she's a big manager in biotech.

01:46:49.000 Boy, it's been good for her.

01:46:52.000 It's definitely that.

01:46:52.000 As an old professor, definitely I feel it's an educational issue.

01:46:55.000 Is a big part of the solution also public education so people really know this is starting to happen, this is going on, Doctor?

01:47:02.000 It's definitely that.

01:47:03.000 As an old professor, definitely I feel it's an educational issue.

01:47:07.000 People have to know there's a difference.

01:47:10.000 There's embryonic versus adult stem cells.

01:47:12.000 The embryonic continually have failed, despite all the promises.

01:47:16.000 The adult have treated thousands of patients successfully.

01:47:19.000 Is that because they're so unstable, the embryonic?

01:47:21.000 They are unstable.

01:47:22.000 They're just kind of untamed.

01:47:23.000 In a way, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing in the embryo, grow as fast as possible and make everything at once.

01:47:28.000 Well, that's not what you want to treat a patient.

01:47:31.000 Isn't there a danger in just this mass pell-mell manipulation of animal, plant, genetic lines and just random splicing in labs that aren't even level 3?

01:47:42.000 We have to be very careful about that.

01:47:44.000 I mean, we don't really know what we're doing as we start to move genes back and forth.

01:47:49.000 It has to be very, very controlled.

01:47:51.000 Really should probably be level 4.

01:47:53.000 Certainly any human genes are.

01:47:54.000 So you're saying this could give rise to some type of... I mean, let's say we're messing with two human gene types and in the experiment there was a flu virus involved.

01:48:03.000 I mean, these are the type of things that mutate.

01:48:06.000 I mean, what type of thing could we see rise out of this?

01:48:09.000 Well, you worry about some sort of pathogen.

01:48:11.000 You worry about transfer of genes between different plants out in the field or between different animals.

01:48:18.000 And let's, you know, let's focus too on the human.

01:48:21.000 Trying to just change one out of thirty to seventy thousand different genes and thinking, we can control that.

01:48:29.000 We need to take a breath, say, wait a minute, let's really think about whether we want to start fiddling with the human genome this way.

01:48:38.000 You know, I see it as the media's responsibility.

01:48:40.000 I don't think they've been clear about how far along cloning is And that's why people on the street still are in denial.

01:48:49.000 How do we get past that denial?

01:48:51.000 We've got to just keep hammering away.

01:48:53.000 Shows like yours and others, even just mouth-to-mouth. 0.80

01:48:58.000 Just a couple of weeks ago, we had the lady in Korea get out of her wheelchair and stand after a spinal cord injury, confined for 20 years, treated with adult stem cells, with cord blood stem cells.

01:49:09.000 That didn't make front page news anywhere, even though it should have.

01:49:13.000 It doesn't!

01:49:14.000 They try to use people's greed for healthcares to get behind stem cell embryonic, when exactly? 0.87

01:49:21.000 I saw that report, but it was in the back of the news wire.

01:49:24.000 That's right, and this is adult stem cells that's working.

01:49:27.000 The cloning hasn't worked.

01:49:28.000 The embryonic hasn't worked.

01:49:30.000 We need to focus on what's really working and stop fiddling around here.

01:49:35.000 Unbelievable.

01:49:36.000 But again, you just said it.

01:49:37.000 They can patent the embryonic.

01:49:38.000 They have trouble with the adult.

01:49:40.000 So it's a greed issue.

01:49:43.000 Doctor, stay with us.

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01:52:48.000 Alright, welcome back.

01:52:57.000 Final segment with Dr. David Prentiss.

01:53:00.000 And, Doctor, tell the listeners about the different websites they should visit for more information.

01:53:05.000 Right.

01:53:05.000 As we said, Alex, this is an educational issue, really.

01:53:08.000 We need to be informed.

01:53:09.000 We need to know the facts.

01:53:10.000 And two really good sites for your folks to visit, cloninginformation.org and stemcellresearch.org.

01:53:20.000 Get the basic facts on the real difference.

01:53:22.000 Embryonic stem cells, a failure.

01:53:25.000 Adults stem cells are the ones that are already treating thousands of patients successfully.

01:53:29.000 This is where we ought to be focused.

01:53:31.000 Not on the cloning, which has failed.

01:53:33.000 Not on the embryo research, which has failed.

01:53:35.000 The adult stem cells.

01:53:36.000 We've taken our eyes off of what the real goal is here to really help people with these diseases.

01:53:42.000 And we talked during the break about why the scientists are going for the embryonic and you gave the answer.

01:53:48.000 Well, I mean, one aspect is the money.

01:53:51.000 It's scientific and biotech corporate welfare essentially just to do what they want to do for science fair experiments.

01:53:59.000 They're not really looking at trying to help the patient.

01:54:03.000 And you also talked about, you know, kind of like a contest of who can create the most god-awful mutation.

01:54:10.000 Well, it is.

01:54:11.000 They're not asking the question, should I do something?

01:54:14.000 It's, can I do this?

01:54:15.000 I wonder what would happen if I tinkered with these various genes and so on, kind of to be the first to do it.

01:54:21.000 And it's like the little kid that doesn't want to be told they can't play with all the toys in the toy box.

01:54:27.000 They just want to do what they want to do, irregardless of any sort of ethical or even practical application.

01:54:35.000 Now this solution is obviously education, but what do we see coming up on the horizon legislatively?

01:54:40.000 You say try to get that bill passed?

01:54:44.000 One of the chief things I think we need to do is when Congress starts back up in January, Senator Brownback is going to put back up his Cloning ban, and it's a true cloning ban that bans all production of human embryos for any purpose.

01:55:00.000 It's passed the House twice in the past.

01:55:03.000 You can count on it passing again, but it always gets blocked in the Senate.

01:55:06.000 We need to bombard our senators as well as our representatives with calls and letters saying, You need to pass this.

01:55:14.000 We need to stop this.

01:55:16.000 What about getting Chimera language added so they're not splicing all these humans with animals? 1.00

01:55:21.000 Well, I think you're going to see that kind of legislation coming up too in this next session and we need to back that and just, you know, full court press.

01:55:29.000 We need to stop this sort of abuse.

01:55:31.000 Well, it's like playing with biological weapons or nuclear weapons.

01:55:35.000 I mean, We talked about that earlier, how dangerous this could be.

01:55:38.000 You really don't know what you're going to get.

01:55:41.000 There's a real hubris here in thinking you can twiddle with one out of 30,000 genes and really know what's going to happen.

01:55:48.000 We need to just set this aside.

01:55:50.000 Let's focus on what will really help the patient, the adult stem cells.

01:55:54.000 Well, that point you made about, and I saw that article, the lady in South Korea up and walking after adult stem cells being injected into her spinal cord, but it didn't even make the nightly news!

01:56:04.000 No, and she's not the first.

01:56:05.000 There was a story, a similar lady in Brazil.

01:56:08.000 There have been about two dozen patients treated in Portugal.

01:56:12.000 Some of them testified in our U.S.

01:56:13.000 Senate last summer, didn't make the front page anywhere.

01:56:17.000 Because adult stem cells are going to be treatments that anybody can do, that can be a treatment that's developed and used.

01:56:23.000 But if it's with embryonic lines, it's going to be special things owned by certain companies.

01:56:28.000 It is.

01:56:29.000 We're back to that sort of economic incentive of patenting.

01:56:33.000 And isn't it funny that the moral treatment is what will actually help us, and that this evil thing isn't even helping people, but the established front wants it?

01:56:42.000 You know, Alex, good science is ethical science.

01:56:46.000 The other stuff, people have referred to embryonic and cloning as the fountain of youth, but that water is poisoned.

01:56:54.000 Unbelievable!

01:56:55.000 Well, Doctor, just amazing having you on.

01:56:57.000 I hope to have you back up in the future.

01:56:59.000 Anything else you'd like to add?

01:57:00.000 I think we just need to keep pushing the fact that we don't need human cloning for any purpose.

01:57:05.000 We don't need embryonic stem cells.

01:57:07.000 We've got the adult stem cells, the core blood stem cells that are working in patients.

01:57:12.000 Let's get people informed and let's get them activated.

01:57:16.000 Should people try to move also at the state level in New Jersey and California to block this stuff?

01:57:21.000 I think, in fact, in any state.

01:57:23.000 In Texas, a bill has come up in the last couple of years and hasn't been able to get through.

01:57:27.000 We need to ban this sort of cloning of humans, even at the state level.

01:57:31.000 Okay.

01:57:32.000 Dr. David Prentiss, thank you so much for joining us today.

01:57:36.000 CloningInformation.org, take care.

01:57:39.000 We'll be back with the third hour.

01:57:41.000 Berkey, what?

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Boy, I tell ya, if you missed the last hour, you missed it.

01:58:11.000 And I hope your station recarries that second hour at night.

01:58:15.000 Those listeners out there, because it was so important.

01:58:19.000 We had Dr. David Prentiss, Spokesman for Americans to Ban Cloning, who's got a bio of the U.S.

01:58:25.000 government and private industry and universities, and we're talking about the dean of major medical institutions, talking about the spider goats, the headless humans, the chimeras, the humans spliced with pigs, states Lifting the ban on cloning, letting them bring baby clones of humans up to birth to kill them and use them for body parts. 0.98

01:58:49.000 And the average American has no idea, just like that guy who walked up to me in a pizza place, got right in my face and said, you're a liar!

01:58:57.000 No such thing as cross-species splicing. 0.69

01:59:01.000 And I said, when were you in school?

01:59:02.000 1973.

01:59:03.000 It's not 1973, folks!

01:59:06.000 We're not in Kansas anymore!

01:59:10.000 Stop being in denial, please!

01:59:13.000 I want to talk about the new Homeland Security Chief we're going to have.

01:59:16.000 This is Bernard Carrick.

01:59:19.000 I want to talk about Rumsfeld staying at the Pentagon.

01:59:21.000 I have got torture news.

01:59:24.000 I have got just new Arnold news that's come out.

01:59:27.000 Michael Moore news.

01:59:29.000 Just so much.

01:59:31.000 But people have been holding the last 30 minutes while I had that guest on.

01:59:34.000 So let's get some of those out of the way first.

01:59:37.000 Let's talk to Oh, I guess up next is Jay in Denver.

01:59:42.000 Jay, go ahead.

01:59:43.000 Hey, Alex.

01:59:45.000 First, the picture you were talking about on the clip from your documentary with Bush flipping off the camera.

01:59:53.000 Yes.

01:59:53.000 Is there any way we can find that to print it?

01:59:56.000 I want to make a t-shirt out of that.

01:59:58.000 That was good.

01:59:59.000 I don't know anybody who's still squeamish and watching your documentary about somebody flipping the camera off.

02:00:09.000 The point is, I wouldn't put that in a new film if it was...

02:00:14.000 A bus driver doing it.

02:00:15.000 The point is, it's the President.

02:00:18.000 You know, people get mad that I put a link to a site that has naked pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

02:00:24.000 The point is, this is your governor.

02:00:26.000 You need to know what they're up to.

02:00:29.000 You need to know, oh, don't show the torture photos.

02:00:32.000 Well, this is where they torture people to death.

02:00:34.000 People need to know what their leaders are doing.

02:00:37.000 What their leaders are up to, and yes sir, Matt Drudge put a link to that months ago.

02:00:43.000 Just type in, uh, Bush, uh, lips off camera.

02:00:48.000 Listen, we've aired the audio here.

02:00:50.000 Let me ask, uh, John running the show today.

02:00:53.000 John, remember a couple months ago we aired that clip where Bush is going, that's my one finger salute?

02:00:58.000 And then he grabs his hair and like grabs it like he's about to go insane and then does that?

02:01:02.000 I mean, that's more important than what he did. 1.00

02:01:05.000 You know, he's kind of yelling at his staff and then The point is, is that the guy's a total hypocrite. 0.98

02:01:13.000 And then the other comment, you said someone, you saw on the web or somebody was criticizing you for charging. 0.97

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02:01:23.000 Because I pay more than $5.95, that's ridiculous. 0.78

02:01:25.000 I mean, jeez, I paid $25.95.

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02:01:32.000 Donate whatever they want and get the membership like 10, 15, 20, whatever, 100, whatever they got.

02:01:38.000 Listen.

02:01:38.000 Like an option or whatever.

02:01:39.000 Yeah, I saw, again, most of my films are for free on the web.

02:01:43.000 I let people make copies of the hard copies when they buy them, but we couldn't continue.

02:01:47.000 We had to charge for some of the bandwidth because it's like asking a grocery store to sell food for free.

02:01:54.000 Well, there's so much stuff on there.

02:01:55.000 There's no way you'd You're silly not to charge, and especially, like you said, it's the poor thing.

02:02:01.000 I'm saying a lot of people probably would pay more. 0.99

02:02:03.000 Anybody who's crying about that, they're ridiculous.

02:02:06.000 You know, if bandwidth costs $4,000 or $5,000 a month, how do people think I'm going to just offer it all for free? 0.63

02:02:12.000 I mean, how long would I be able to have the website?

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02:02:17.000 I mean, it's crazy.

02:02:19.000 I say, make copies of my videos if you order them.

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02:02:26.000 I say stuff like this and it's still not good enough.

02:02:28.000 But look, that's the few detractors who can't find fault with what I'm saying, they gotta find fault with something else.

02:02:36.000 But I appreciate your support, Jay, and God bless you in Denver.

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02:06:44.000 Right now, let's get to some more of these great calls. 0.58

02:06:46.000 But before I do that, here is the video of Bush during his first gubernatorial run, freaking out, grabbing his hair, acting like a crazy man.

02:06:57.000 Uh, flipping off his staff. 0.97

02:06:59.000 Uh, looking like a crazed, demonic frat boy.

02:07:02.000 Uh, here is the audio of that. 0.81

02:07:06.000 He's still telling me what to do.

02:07:08.000 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

02:07:10.000 - Okay.

02:07:12.000 - Okay. - It's a two-year-old dresser.

02:07:14.000 Can we roll and take on that?

02:07:17.000 Here we go.

02:07:18.000 Just a one-finger victory salute.

02:07:23.000 so So, Again, that's your president.

02:07:29.000 And the point is, I would imagine everybody at one time in their life has done that, but he looks like a 12-year-old, a 14-year-old, punk kid.

02:07:38.000 And when he's not at a Shinto shrine conjuring demons in Japan on TV, or when he's not worshipping Allah, he's telling you what a Christian he is. 0.75

02:07:45.000 And the point is, is that people will be like, well how dare Drudge, or how dare Alex link to that?

02:07:55.000 How's it going?

02:08:01.000 I got that video clip actually, and another one where he's just drunk at a wedding.

02:08:10.000 It's pretty funny.

02:08:11.000 Yeah, I've seen the one where he's drunk at a wedding.

02:08:13.000 Yeah, he's a funny man.

02:08:15.000 Totally drunk.

02:08:16.000 Yeah, that was just a few years ago.

02:08:17.000 Yeah.

02:08:19.000 I got some questions for you.

02:08:21.000 I'm trying to do my part up here in Canada.

02:08:23.000 Well the point that's important about the drinking, just interrupting you, is that it's years after he claims he quit drinking.

02:08:30.000 Oh yeah, he's an alcoholic. 0.99

02:08:31.000 He's a big fat liar is what he is, but go ahead. 0.98

02:08:35.000 I'm trying to do my part in fighting the New World Order up here, and in my fight I'm getting people saying in regards to the Patriot Act and martial law and the police state, Stuff like, well, we're up in Canada. 0.98

02:08:50.000 That doesn't affect us.

02:08:51.000 You know, like, that's going to happen down there.

02:08:53.000 Really?

02:08:53.000 They're passing... We're safe up here.

02:08:55.000 That's what they say, right?

02:08:56.000 They're creating all these federal squads.

02:08:58.000 They're taking liberties.

02:08:59.000 They're creating gun registries.

02:09:01.000 They're arresting people for political speech.

02:09:07.000 So you've got your own brand of New World Order, kind of closer to the British model. 0.70

02:09:11.000 Yeah.

02:09:12.000 What are the chances of Canada adopting the same type of a Patriot Act.

02:09:18.000 They are, actually.

02:09:18.000 There have been bills that have passed and they tried to pass.

02:09:22.000 It's just probably not as mainstream as, you know, yours.

02:09:25.000 I don't know.

02:09:26.000 Yeah, it's been in your newspapers.

02:09:29.000 And look, Europe will criticize America, and America will criticize Europe, and Canada will criticize, and we'll criticize, but basically the same system's going in.

02:09:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:09:40.000 My other thing is, how do you, as a person, Let me ask you a question.

02:09:45.000 Do you have family?

02:09:47.000 Yeah.

02:09:47.000 listening and finding out stuff like, you know, it's on your website, and not get depressed.

02:09:53.000 Because, I mean, since I've been finding this stuff out, it's hard to want to succeed in life, you know, when you think what's coming down the road.

02:10:03.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:10:06.000 Do you have family?

02:10:07.000 Yeah.

02:10:08.000 Then you should want to fight to defend your family so your family and your children and their children don't live in tyranny and you ought to be happy you know the truth now and be positive that you've been enlightened and that you're informed and that you are living in the real world.

02:10:26.000 And you need to realize in a historical context that things have always been pretty tyrannical.

02:10:32.000 Uh, and that we're just in a different phase right now with the same type of stuff going on, so don't let it get you down and try to get into positions of power so that you can stop this.

02:10:42.000 Yeah.

02:10:43.000 Be positive, I mean.

02:10:44.000 Okay.

02:10:45.000 That sounds like a good way of going about it.

02:10:48.000 I mean, look, there are 35,000 children.

02:10:49.000 It's actually 36,000 children a day starving to death.

02:10:55.000 Well then, we should expose the IMF and World Bank's policies that have actually engineered this in their own documents that have been declassified.

02:11:04.000 There's something to expose.

02:11:05.000 We should expose that our government helps fund and pay for forced abortions in China. 0.76

02:11:11.000 You know, there's any myriad of issues you can choose where you can have an effect.

02:11:17.000 And yes, and you know what?

02:11:18.000 If you give up or you get depressed and you do nothing, more of those children are going to die.

02:11:23.000 They're counting on you.

02:11:25.000 Taking action.

02:11:26.000 Thanks for the call.

02:11:27.000 Thank you.

02:11:27.000 More people are going to get medical problems up in Canada if you don't get that fluoride out of your water.

02:11:32.000 Well, now the guy that helped 20 years ago get it put in, the doctor, has gone public and said he was wrong.

02:11:37.000 It's true.

02:11:37.000 It's deadly.

02:11:38.000 You know, I mean, this is happening.

02:11:40.000 We've woken people up.

02:11:41.000 The shift has happened.

02:11:43.000 That's why the globalists are panicking, trying to set up this huge police state right now.

02:11:47.000 Let's go ahead and talk to, uh, who's up next here?

02:11:53.000 David.

02:11:55.000 Yeah, honey.

02:11:55.000 Where are you calling from, David?

02:11:57.000 San Francisco, yeah.

02:11:57.000 San Fran?

02:11:58.000 Yeah, greetings.

02:11:59.000 Greetings.

02:12:00.000 Hey, you know, I was too bad I didn't get on with that physician or your scientist.

02:12:05.000 I donate blood still, and a couple of weeks ago, I went out there, attempted to donate, and they had me fill out a new kind of form.

02:12:15.000 It was sort of like a waiver, and when I read detail through it, Apparently, to my eyes... Let me stop you, and I do this not to show off, I do this so people know that independently this is really happening.

02:12:29.000 Did it say that you waived your right that they would own the contents of your blood if any new proteins or any new genetics were found in it?

02:12:37.000 Yeah, that's pretty much exactly it.

02:12:38.000 The reason I know that is there was a San Francisco federal court ruling three years ago that, and I was going to bring it up to the doctor because he was wrong, it's not just Well, that's exactly the point.

02:12:49.000 So what do the forms say?

02:12:50.000 Just tell me.

02:12:50.000 at the hospital or whatever, they take it and they sell it, and then it's looked at for genetic traits, and they find a protein or something.

02:12:57.000 They can then patent that, and you don't even own it.

02:13:00.000 Go ahead.

02:13:01.000 Well, that's exactly the point.

02:13:02.000 So what did the form say?

02:13:05.000 Just tell me.

02:13:06.000 Well, not having it in front of me, I may be able to find it for you, though, if you'd like it.

02:13:10.000 But it alluded that there was a research project that was going on, and that this given scientist or physician was in charge of this project, and that as a part of it, he was going to, and then just as you described, my DNA essentially and then just as you described, my DNA essentially would be part of his project, and that any patents and such, I would be waiving my rights to any of the patents.

02:13:38.000 But it's very much like he was going to patent me.

02:13:42.000 So I didn't donate.

02:13:44.000 I raised this.

02:13:45.000 Think about it.

02:13:45.000 I'm familiar.

02:13:47.000 I saw the Nexus Point.

02:13:48.000 You said I was going to give blood in San Francisco and I knew that project was going on.

02:13:53.000 You've got Morgan Fowler Jones creeping around over there.

02:13:56.000 The Arnold's front woman.

02:13:57.000 And you know she's one of the big top biotech company managers for funds. 0.96

02:14:03.000 Mutual funds.

02:14:03.000 And of course Arnold's given them a nice little six billion dollar goody, hasn't he?

02:14:07.000 Oh yeah.

02:14:07.000 Yeah, and as a matter of fact, I'm glad you raised that.

02:14:09.000 See, I do that so people realize how, whether it's open borders, or gun control, banning guns, or abortion, or cloning, I mean, this guy's all over it.

02:14:21.000 Sure.

02:14:22.000 I don't know if you've got it on your links, but the San Francisco Bay Guardian, just before Election Day, so this would have been mid-October, late-October issue, Had a great article about that proposition that essentially created the cloning here in California, or the DNA research, stem cell research.

02:14:41.000 And if people look, I believe it's sfbg.com, sanfranciscobayguardian.com, they'll be able to find that article.

02:14:50.000 It goes into great detail.

02:14:52.000 This is one of the liberal or progressive free newspapers out here in San Francisco, and they were not just urging, they were stating up front, do not vote for this because it was a huge welfare program specifically for this one company and that it had very little to do with the advancement of,

02:15:14.000 it went into a lot of good technical detail about it went into a lot of good technical detail about the DNA and about stem cells and that we were essentially giving a $6 billion, they claim to be only $3 billion, but in the long run it does work out to be about $6 billion, a welfare program to this but in

02:15:34.000 It made the illusion that it was going to be a scam in a larger sense because even though it was going to be done in California and they claimed, that California claims to have the ability to stop cloning in its own state, The reality is... Well, by the way, see that's dishonest right there.

02:15:54.000 They've already legalized cloning up to birth in California.

02:15:57.000 Thanks for the call.

02:15:59.000 And again, the general public doesn't even know that.

02:16:01.000 Excellent points, David.

02:16:02.000 Roger in Pennsylvania.

02:16:04.000 Go ahead, Roger.

02:16:06.000 Yeah, thanks Alex.

02:16:08.000 I hope one of these knuckleheads calls in one of these days just because I'd like to blow your horn in a way which might sound, on your business model, might sound self-serving if you did it.

02:16:17.000 I mean, it's saying people that wouldn't begrudge some surgeon $100,000, $200,000 a year salary for saving their 14-year-old daughter, they want to nickel and dime you to death. 0.99

02:16:29.000 I mean, it's really ridiculous.

02:16:32.000 I wish they'd apply the same standard when they go get their car fixed or something.

02:16:35.000 Well, I was being, I mean, look, it's very few people, but I get these emails, why shouldn't you just give it all for free?

02:16:40.000 Well, if I gave my videos away for free, how long could I give videos away?

02:16:44.000 I'm not some millionaire or billionaire.

02:16:46.000 And at the same time, I say make copies of my videos, and most of the stuff on my site's free.

02:16:53.000 I start a subscription service to get all my videos and books for 15 cents a day, and then some people don't like that.

02:17:00.000 I don't think they understand the free market.

02:17:02.000 Yeah, well, I'd be embarrassed.

02:17:05.000 I'd be mortified to say some of the stuff I hear that people come across with.

02:17:09.000 I mean, you practically went away the store already.

02:17:13.000 And, you know, it's very frustrating and alienating, like you did with that last caller.

02:17:18.000 When you chop him off, I don't know that he didn't have something interesting to say there, but you didn't let him come back there.

02:17:25.000 Well, Roger, that is a legitimate criticism, but you would have never gotten on.

02:17:30.000 No, no, no, no.

02:17:31.000 That's not the same thing.

02:17:32.000 You're mixing apples with oranges, there, Alec.

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02:22:04.000 And boy, you ought to see it under the electron microscope, what mercury does to your brain compared to other heavy metals.

02:22:09.000 Then a bunch of other news we haven't even gotten to yet.

02:22:12.000 So, Regina in Pennsylvania, go ahead, welcome.

02:22:16.000 Hi Alex, since the man from Canada zoned in there on some help, I just want to encourage him that when people ask him for prayer on a subject, bring it up and let the people know what's going on with Gonzales and let them be responsible in prayer and maybe a little action on some of these subjects that we seem to be burdened with.

02:22:37.000 And I'm not saying I'm mad at that, but I can understand how it is overwhelming.

02:22:42.000 I don't understand.

02:22:43.000 We had a caller from Canada saying, how can he overcome?

02:22:47.000 What I'm saying is, I had an opportunity this weekend, there was a prayer service down in Pittsburgh, and I brought up some of these issues, and I just praise the Lord because they did come through with prayer on the issues and they were kind of forced to rather than the same old thing that... Well, the scientific studies show, bless my face a hundred percent, but the power of prayer is the real deal.

02:23:08.000 And Bush, instead of doing groundwork for Bush, they were actually going at some of the issues.

02:23:13.000 I want to mention at 9.15 tomorrow in Polk County, Iowa, this Dr. Tennant is going to be reappearing at court.

02:23:23.000 He told me that he's being brought up under the Iowa State Statute 708, third degree harassment.

02:23:29.000 It'll be tomorrow, Tuesday, 7th.

02:23:32.000 Now, now, Roger's gonna get mad because I'm interrupting you, but this is something we have to do.

02:23:36.000 98% of people don't know who the doctor was I had on three weeks ago.

02:23:41.000 Uh, who complained too much, and Homeland Security said in the Quad City Times, we arrested him for complaining too much about not getting his benefits, and they arrested the anti-terror forces, arrested the doctor, and so now folks know what you're talking about.

02:23:56.000 Tomorrow, he's going to be in court.

02:23:59.000 Wait, Polk County in Iowa, courthouse, 915 AM, that'd be the 7th, room 114, He needs prayer and he needs help for people showing up.

02:24:10.000 And I'm begging folks to go with a video camera and interview him after the hearing so we can get some video of that up on the web.

02:24:17.000 There was a question as far as where exactly Polk County is.

02:24:21.000 His telephone number is 563-326-2495.

02:24:26.000 If you want to call him, I'm sure he'll be happy.

02:24:28.000 No, no, he's giving his number out.

02:24:30.000 What's his number again?

02:24:30.000 563-326-2495.

02:24:36.000 All right.

02:24:38.000 Thanks for the call, Regina.

02:24:40.000 I appreciate it.

02:24:41.000 Let's talk to Jeff in Kansas City.

02:24:43.000 Last caller, go ahead.

02:24:46.000 Yes, sir.

02:24:47.000 Okay, I'm Jeff.

02:24:49.000 Uh-huh.

02:24:50.000 From Kansas City.

02:24:52.000 And I listened to your show today about the stem cells research.

02:24:59.000 And I've got a book here.

02:25:01.000 It's called The Body Electric.

02:25:02.000 I've given it out many times.

02:25:04.000 Where it describes how you can transform Red blood cells into stem cells or stem cell equivalents.

02:25:12.000 Yeah, that's what the doctor was talking about last hour.

02:25:15.000 And they're stable and they work well.

02:25:19.000 Yeah, with electricity.

02:25:20.000 I don't know about electricity.

02:25:23.000 They just grow.

02:25:24.000 They just manipulate them.

02:25:27.000 Uh-huh.

02:25:29.000 In this book, you don't need to collect stem cells in a laboratory.

02:25:34.000 You just need a bimetallic implant to the wounded parts and then the red blood cells will become stem cells right there inside your body.

02:25:47.000 Yeah they have lots of systems with implants now directly into the area and then that has worked quite nicely.

02:25:54.000 Yeah okay well I'm just going to mention it I believe technology and science can be used for the good but when we've got new world order thugs in control of it science and technology is being used against us.

02:26:12.000 Well, I think you just boiled it down in one sentence.

02:26:15.000 Well said, sir.

02:26:16.000 Okay.

02:26:20.000 Thank you for the call.

02:26:21.000 I appreciate it.

02:26:22.000 You know, I ought to try to get Dr. Tennant back on, since Regina mentioned that.

02:26:26.000 Yeah, that was in the newspaper.

02:26:27.000 They actually said in the Quad City Times, he's done nothing, he threatened no one, but we're going to go ahead and arrest him.

02:26:32.000 Calling too many times is a terrorist action, and we're over that.

02:26:38.000 Pot dealing is, and selling knockoff Rubik's Cubes is, and Taking money of your county commission to give somebody more parking spaces is just all terrorism.

02:26:48.000 Everything's terrorism.

02:26:49.000 The cameras are there to fight crime and terror.

02:26:52.000 This whole system going in is just unbelievable.

02:26:56.000 So yes, we had that doctor on.

02:26:59.000 I have several mainstream news articles today, by the way.

02:27:04.000 Post 9-11 powers are turned on America.

02:27:07.000 The Roanoke Times, and it's Big article here where they're using the Patriot Act against everybody.

02:27:17.000 Stuff that isn't even crimes.

02:27:19.000 I mean, they're just using it.

02:27:20.000 It's example after example.

02:27:21.000 Stuff I don't even know about.

02:27:23.000 As many examples as there are fish in the sea, basically.

02:27:29.000 It's being used against us, the American people.

02:27:31.000 It has nothing to do with Muslims. 0.67

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02:30:41.000 Okay, now I'm going to air a couple of audio clips from video. now I'm going to air a couple of audio clips Thank you.

02:31:01.000 And remember, this is off my website, so the audio's actually a little bit better when you listen to it.

02:31:06.000 When you transfer it over the radio, it never sounds as good.

02:31:09.000 This first clip is the four minutes of the trailer for Martial Law, 9-1-1, Rise of the Police State, my new film that's coming out in a few months.

02:31:19.000 I know you can't get it yet, but here's the audio from it.

02:31:24.000 Of course, the video is ten times stronger, but you'll hear David Gergen telling me it's none of my business about the rituals they conduct at Bohemian Grove.

02:31:32.000 You'll hear audio of me confronting Michael Moore and him saying, oh, because it would be un-American to talk about NORAD stand down, and much more.

02:31:39.000 So, here it is, the intro to martial law.

02:31:45.000 In the early years of the 21st century, terrorism was used by governments across the world as a pretext to scare their populations into submission.

02:31:57.000 Life became a surveillance-driven nightmare, with every individual's actions ruthlessly catalogued and recorded by the state.

02:32:06.000 Secret arrests, checkpoints, and warrantless searches spread.

02:32:12.000 The final incremental march of the police state culminating in open martial law.

02:32:20.000 This is the story of how the elite sold their people to slavery and scared the once proud and brave people of the West into submitting to being cannon fodder in wars for world domination.

02:32:35.000 Our enemies have made clear The danger they pose to our security.

02:32:46.000 We're just right outside the security perimeter at this national security event in New York City.

02:32:51.000 Just a few hundred yards away from Madison Square Garden, where at least 10,000 police are stationed, supposedly providing security for the Republican National Convention and all the delegates and media that are going to be here.

02:33:05.000 Sadly, we live in a world where, for the foreseeable future, you're going to have to provide security all the time.

02:33:10.000 Who do you work for?

02:33:15.000 Well, you need to tell us!

02:33:16.000 I mean, this is a free conference.

02:33:19.000 Officer, can you tell me this guy's badge number?

02:33:22.000 Secret Police?

02:33:23.000 Discovers his badge yet?

02:33:25.000 Secret Police in America.

02:33:26.000 This is what's called ambush journalism, and I disrespect you for that as well, so thank you and goodbye. 0.99

02:33:31.000 It's none of your damn business. 0.95

02:33:34.000 We're also going to be talking to the protesters and finding out if the protesters are discussing real issues or if it's more of this phony left-right paradigm. 0.98

02:33:42.000 On Monday, that Zogby poll was released that showed 50% of New York City residents believe the government had poor knowledge and made a conscious decision not to intervene.

02:33:52.000 50% of the people who live in New York believe that.

02:33:54.000 Both candidates are cousins.

02:33:56.000 They're skull and bones.

02:33:57.000 They're bringing in big government and tyranny. 0.92

02:33:59.000 The evidence is clear.

02:33:59.000 The military-industrial complex was intimately involved in 9-11.

02:34:03.000 Many of the nearly 2,000 protesters arrested over the past few days have been taken to an old bus depot on Manhattan's west side.

02:34:11.000 We should call this facility what it is, and it's a concentration camp. 0.89

02:34:14.000 It's a pure 57 concentration camp. 0.95

02:34:16.000 Oh yeah, folks.

02:34:17.000 Oh yeah folks, we're in the middle of it now.

02:34:22.000 That is running the 911 tragedy!

02:34:31.000 Ladies and gentlemen, here is your Fuji-sponsored surveillance footage.

02:34:37.000 We're all back to our civil liberties, just like them telling us we can't stand on the sidewalk here.

02:34:43.000 Yeah, we can.

02:34:44.000 We went to court and we can.

02:34:45.000 The Republicans are here and taking advantage of the 3,000 people that died right behind me for their own selfish politics.

02:34:53.000 and it's very sad.

02:34:55.000 He is a man of perseverance.

02:34:57.000 He is a man of strength.

02:35:00.000 He is a man of strength.

02:35:01.000 He doesn't wish, he doesn't wave up, he does not back down.

02:35:05.000 On September 11th, America was attacked.

02:35:11.000 *Screaming* Suddenly, on September 12th, according to John Ashcroft and George Bush, 270 million Americans became the suspects.

02:35:27.000 Hey Michael, why don't you talk about NORAD standing down?

02:35:30.000 Why don't you talk about NORAD standing down, Michael?

02:35:41.000 Why not the really hardcore 9-11 issues?

02:35:45.000 My friends, this is totally surreal.

02:35:47.000 I'm in the middle of police, machine guns, high-tech shot weapons that are being used in Iraq. 0.63

02:35:52.000 And the would-be dictator is on the radio.

02:35:55.000 I'm in the middle of New York City.

02:35:56.000 It's a hellhole of surveillance and police state.

02:35:59.000 And the Bill of Rights being torched, being destroyed.

02:36:02.000 If you're here at 1135, they will arrest you.

02:36:05.000 All right, folks.

02:36:10.000 So that is the little trailer.

02:36:14.000 I hope you spread it around to folks.

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02:37:57.000 Alright, I meant to air this last week, never got time to do it.

02:38:00.000 This is the University of Calgary's website.

02:38:03.000 They have whole video seminars online about mercury.

02:38:06.000 And we linked to this last week.

02:38:07.000 It's at the bottom of the page on Thursday's PrisonPlanet.com issue.

02:38:12.000 So just click on last Thursday on the date.

02:38:14.000 You can find this on the page.

02:38:17.000 We had trouble downloading this for some reason.

02:38:19.000 It may have a few glitches in it.

02:38:20.000 But it shows with an electron microscope what just mega small particles of mercury do to the brain.

02:38:28.000 Why it's so dangerous compared to other heavy metals.

02:38:32.000 And what it does to children.

02:38:34.000 Now this is a prestigious medical center, medical college.

02:38:38.000 You know, mainstream.

02:38:40.000 And then after we play this, I want to play one more time that clip where local KI News says that mercury is good for your brain and good for brain development.

02:38:47.000 So don't believe those people that say it isn't good in the vaccines.

02:38:50.000 But here's that first clip, so stay with us.

02:38:53.000 How mercury causes brain neuron degeneration.

02:39:00.000 Mercury has long been known to be a potent neurotoxic substance, whether it is inhaled or consumed in the diet as a food contaminant.

02:39:07.000 Over the past 15 years, medical research laboratories have established that dental amalgam tooth fillings are a major contributor to mercury body burden.

02:39:17.000 In 1997, a team of research scientists demonstrated that mercury vapor inhalation by animals produced a molecular lesion in brain protein metabolism which was similar to a lesion seen in 80% of Alzheimer's diseased brains.

02:39:31.000 Recently completed experiments by scientists at the University of Calgary's Faculty of Medicine now reveal, with direct visual evidence from brain neuron tissue cultures, how mercury ions actually alter the cell membrane structure of developing neurons.

02:39:46.000 To better understand Mercury's effect on the brain, let us first illustrate what brain neurons look like, and how they grow.

02:39:54.000 In this animation, we see three brain neurons growing in a tissue culture, each with a central cell body, and numerous neurite processes.

02:40:03.000 At the end of each neurite is a growth cone where structural proteins are assembled to form the cell membrane.

02:40:09.000 Two principal proteins involved in growth cone function are actin, which is responsible for the pulsating motion seen here, and tubulin, a major structural component of the neurite membrane.

02:40:21.000 During normal cell growth, tubulin molecules link together end-to-end to form microtubules, which surround neurofibrils, another structural protein component of the neuronal axon.

02:40:34.000 Shown here is the neurite of a live neuron isolated from snail brain tissue, displaying linear growth due to growth cone activity.

02:40:42.000 It is important to note that growth cones in all animal species, ranging from snails to humans, have identical structural and behavioral characteristics, and use proteins of virtually identical composition.

02:40:57.000 In this experiment, neurons also isolated from snail brain tissue were grown in culture for several days, after which very low concentrations of mercury were added to the culture medium for 20 minutes.

02:41:10.000 Over the next 30 minutes, the neurite membrane underwent rapid degeneration, leaving behind the denuded neurofibrils seen here.

02:41:18.000 In contrast, other heavy metals added at this same concentration, such as aluminum, lead, cadmium and manganese, did not produce this effect.

02:41:28.000 To understand how mercury causes this degeneration, let us return to our illustration.

02:41:33.000 As mentioned before, tubulin proteins link together during normal cell growth to form the microtubules which support the neurite structure.

02:41:42.000 When mercury ions are introduced into the culture medium, they infiltrate the cell and bind themselves to newly synthesized tubulin molecules.

02:41:50.000 More specifically, the mercury ions attach themselves to the binding site reserved for guanosine triphosphate, or GTP, on the beta subunit of the affected tubulin molecules.

02:42:01.000 Since bound GTP normally provides the energy which allows tubulin molecules to attach to one another, mercury ions bound to these sites prevent tubulin proteins from linking together.

02:42:13.000 Consequently, the neurite's microtubules begin to disassemble into free tubulin molecules, leaving the neurite stripped of its supporting structure.

02:42:23.000 Ultimately, both the developing neurite and its growth cone collapse, and some denuded neurofibrils form aggregates, or tangles, as depicted here.

02:42:35.000 Shown here is a neurite growth cone stained specifically for tubulin and actin, before and after mercury exposure.

02:42:42.000 Note that the mercury has caused disintegration of tubulin microtubule structure.

02:42:46.000 These new findings reveal important visual evidence as to how mercury causes neurodegeneration.

02:42:53.000 More importantly, the study provides the first direct evidence that low-level mercury exposure is indeed a precipitating factor that can initiate this neurodegenerative process within the brain.

02:43:09.000 Okay.

02:43:09.000 Now again, literally there are thousands of studies on Mercury.

02:43:13.000 Nothing's been studied more.

02:43:14.000 It's one of the few things they've known for, you know, 800 years is bad for you.

02:43:19.000 And it attacks growing cells even worse.

02:43:21.000 Plugs in to where they take their nourishment and kills them.

02:43:27.000 And nothing eats to the brain like this.

02:43:29.000 I mean, it literally dissolves your brain.

02:43:32.000 And so let's give a baby, with one round of shots, 250 times safe levels.

02:43:38.000 That's a really good idea.

02:43:39.000 Let's do that and then wonder why autism is up over 1000%.

02:43:45.000 From 1 in 25,000 20 years ago to now 1 out of 1000 and the new numbers are coming in.

02:43:50.000 Looks like 1 out of 168 we've had top scientists on.

02:43:54.000 Now here's CBS one last time.

02:43:56.000 This aired all over the country.

02:43:57.000 This is the national version.

02:43:58.000 The local version of the national version.

02:44:01.000 How it's good for children.

02:44:02.000 Why the new federal studies that came out say it's so good for you.

02:44:06.000 Did you find that clip?

02:44:09.000 Let's roll that one.

02:44:10.000 Mercury-containing vaccines may have on kids.

02:44:10.000 This.

02:44:13.000 A life-saving device wins over-the-counter approval by the FDA.

02:44:17.000 And sick of your glasses and contact lenses, a new corrective eye surgery is approved today.

02:44:22.000 Here's tonight's medical headlines with Medical Watch reporters from the Mapper.

02:44:25.000 Mercury-containing vaccines may help not harm kids, according to two new studies in the journal Pediatrics.

02:44:34.000 There have been widespread concerns that mercury-based preservatives in vaccines might impair the neurological development of children.

02:44:41.000 These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually be associated with improved behavior and mental performance.

02:44:49.000 A recent move by the Food and Drug Administration could save your... Now they get into heart defibrillators.

02:44:54.000 Now, so see, that was all over TV, all over the place.

02:44:56.000 I still get emails about it.

02:44:58.000 Well, they say it's good for your child's brain.

02:45:00.000 I mean, come on!

02:45:03.000 And I've aired that probably ten times.

02:45:04.000 Every few weeks I air it again because... I mean, they're telling you mercury's good for you now.

02:45:09.000 I mean, they're telling you everything.

02:45:12.000 Oh, heaven help us.

02:45:14.000 I've got a bunch of news I want to cover.

02:45:15.000 On the Schwarzenegger issue, you know I've launched ArnoldExposed.com.

02:45:20.000 In the next month, we're going to pick winners.

02:45:22.000 $2,000 for the best TV ad.

02:45:24.000 $1,000 for the best radio ad.

02:45:27.000 And email us your submissions.

02:45:29.000 Tell us you're mailing them to us.

02:45:31.000 Get them to us in the next few weeks, folks.

02:45:33.000 Throw together a 60 second or 30 second TV ad and a 60 second or 30 second radio ad, and all the good ones are going on the site, but the winner, that's a pretty big price.

02:45:42.000 That's a lot of money for me, but I'm just going to pay it.

02:45:44.000 And so, take advantage of that contest.

02:45:49.000 And do it now, folks.

02:45:50.000 We're also producing our own ads, as I said, and those will be on soon.

02:45:55.000 I have friends in Hollywood.

02:45:58.000 And I got a call Friday and then called somebody else and confirmed it.

02:46:01.000 Michael Moore tells Hollywood Elite to brace for Schwarzenegger presidential candidacy in L.A.

02:46:07.000 Now Bush Sr.

02:46:08.000 last Monday said that too.

02:46:10.000 On the evening of Friday, December 3rd, 2004, Academy Award-winning director Michael Moore was the guest of honor at an unofficial meeting of the top members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

02:46:21.000 The event was held at the former mansion of child star Shirley Temple.

02:46:24.000 It was so secretive that many of the guests were searched for camera and recording equipment, and all bodyguards were ordered outside.

02:46:31.000 Alex Jones, founder of Americans Against Arnold and ArnoldExposed.com, confirmed the following through two separate sources who were in attendance.

02:46:39.000 Michael Moore, standing in front of some of the most powerful people in Hollywood, told the participants that serious forces were working relentlessly to amend the Constitution so Arnold Schwarzenegger could run for the presidency in L.A.

02:46:51.000 Well, you should lock him.

02:46:52.000 He's for abortion and gun control.

02:46:55.000 More continued by saying that he had no doubt that Schwarzenegger's controllers would get the job done and that those in Hollywood were concerned about what was happening better get serious and get serious now.

02:47:06.000 He added that the American people know that Bush is a puppet and do not care and that they would not have a problem with Schwarzenegger being a figurehead as well.

02:47:14.000 At this point he indicated that branding was what would be important and he went on to say that full mobilization and the enlistment of beloved individuals like Robert Redford and Paul Newman and others to potentially run for president against Arnold in 08.

02:47:30.000 So now top Hollywood Democrats are talking about Arnold for President being a done deal. 0.74

02:47:35.000 This is ridiculous! 0.85

02:47:36.000 Why are we capitulating? 0.99

02:47:38.000 Why is the left or the right doing this?

02:47:40.000 The majority of Americans from the founding fathers of the Constitution are against the changes Schwarzenegger's people want to make.

02:47:47.000 All we have to do is stand up and say no!

02:47:50.000 Whether you're a Republican who cares about your gun rights, or a Democrat who's against wars for empire, you should be grabbing your torches and your pitchforks, figuratively, and be actively engaging in fighting against Arnold's Amend Movement.

02:48:03.000 For those who are still in denial, it is time for you to wake up to the fact that Schwarzenegger is already running for President.

02:48:09.000 Now that's a page and a half, the article is a couple pages longer.

02:48:15.000 You can go read it at PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com.

02:48:20.000 Alright, I'm not plugging my videos in the next segment, so I'll have plenty of time to blitz through this other news.

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02:51:40.000 The Federal Court has come out last Friday and said, hey, the government's allowed to torture you and then use that in court against you.

02:52:00.000 Thank you.

02:52:01.000 I mean, it's just getting more and more unbelievable.

02:52:05.000 One more thing on Arnold Schwarzenegger.

02:52:07.000 That U.S. 0.96

02:52:07.000 for Today cover story over the weekend said Alex Jones alleges Arnold's father was a Nazi. 0.96

02:52:13.000 That's not even denied.

02:52:14.000 We have the photos and the admission he was SS. 0.91

02:52:16.000 Not just a Nazi, but, you know, the really bad Nazis. 0.76

02:52:18.000 You know, the SS. 0.66

02:52:20.000 The guys in black uniforms?

02:52:22.000 I guess that makes them the good guys nowadays.

02:52:23.000 The good guys wear black uniforms.

02:52:24.000 But I still say they're bad guys.

02:52:26.000 It's like alleging the sun came up.

02:52:28.000 Or alleging that Arnold's from Austria.

02:52:29.000 Or alleging that Texas is in Texas.

02:52:34.000 I mean, it's just, I allege nothing.

02:52:36.000 I mean, it's how crazy the media's gotten.

02:52:38.000 Defending all of this.

02:52:40.000 There's another article here.

02:52:42.000 America, whatever it takes to win, how there's all these steroid investigations about professional sports, but then the mixed message of Arnold's okay when he admits he took all of these different things.

02:52:54.000 It's just incredible that this type of stuff is going on.

02:52:58.000 Another article here out of the I-Team.

02:53:00.000 This is out of ABC News.

02:53:02.000 And DC, illegal strip searches, and they admit they just grab women, you name it. 0.99

02:53:07.000 Even TSA workers say, I wouldn't do this to my own grandmother.

02:53:11.000 I wouldn't put up with this.

02:53:13.000 It's training you how to be a slave.

02:53:16.000 Major recount stuff going now in Ohio, but it's not going to go anywhere because Kerry isn't challenging it.

02:53:21.000 It was a staged event.

02:53:24.000 Just incredible. 0.97

02:53:26.000 Also, these new supposed torture photos come out of Navy SEALs, stacking people up like cordwood, which is a way to kill you.

02:53:33.000 You put people on, cram them in cattle cars, or in backs of trucks on top of each other.

02:53:39.000 Thousands died in Afghanistan when they did that to them.

02:53:41.000 That's the same Navy SEAL unit.

02:53:43.000 They've been in trouble for some other stuff.

02:53:45.000 Now these photos get released by one of the Navy SEALs' wives on accident. 1.00

02:53:50.000 And it shows stuff that's really nothing compared to other videos and things that are out there.

02:53:56.000 I believe the whole thing is staged.

02:53:58.000 They do this.

02:53:59.000 They release the lighter stuff, but then condition people that it's no big deal.

02:54:05.000 But you can see those photos from the Associated Press.

02:54:09.000 By the way, the AP found a whole bunch of them and describes worse photos, but they're not going to release those or show those.

02:54:15.000 Very interesting.

02:54:16.000 This is Bernard Jarek.

02:54:19.000 Again, campaign bodyguard for Giuliani and business with him after 9-11 and anti-terror companies to make money off.

02:54:26.000 9-11 helped cover up September 11th.

02:54:29.000 Told Giuliani to get out of Building 7.

02:54:30.000 Errand boy for the Saudi Royal Family.

02:54:33.000 Energetic exploiter for September 11th tragedy.

02:54:36.000 That's out of Newsday.

02:54:38.000 Also, Sunshine May ward off lymphoma.

02:54:43.000 So you get too much sun on your skin, you get cancer, but then no sun, you get cancer too.

02:54:48.000 I mean, it's all balance, folks.

02:54:50.000 Sun exposure apparently has a protective effort against the development of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a blood cancer.

02:54:56.000 Australian researchers report.

02:54:58.000 University of Sydney has come out with a big study on that.

02:55:02.000 Big report here.

02:55:03.000 Voter fraud in Florida.

02:55:04.000 In Ohio, Kerry won the election by 1.7 million votes.

02:55:08.000 Even in the popular vote, the evidence is clear.

02:55:11.000 And again, I'm not for Kerry.

02:55:12.000 I'm just reporting the facts here.

02:55:15.000 Uncle Sam has his own gulag, Toronto Sun, about the incredible gulag.

02:55:20.000 And again, that article I mentioned, USOK's evidence gained through torture.

02:55:23.000 Evidence gained by torture can be used by the US military in deciding whether to imprison a foreigner indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay.

02:55:30.000 So see, now they admit they're torturing people.

02:55:32.000 First they deny it, now they're admitting it.

02:55:36.000 And this is to be used on you folks.

02:55:37.000 All these torturers are going to come back here and run America. 0.99

02:55:42.000 Oh, we are out of time.

02:55:43.000 Massachusetts, last story, gets electronic gun fingerprinting.

02:55:51.000 And it says it's going in in Massachusetts, and it's going to go into the rest of the country, where you have to thumb scan to get a gun.

02:55:58.000 Not just the FBI instant check, but the thumb scanners.

02:56:01.000 Those are also going to go in all the grocery stores and banks.

02:56:05.000 I have the official federal plans.

02:56:06.000 It's all part of this control grid, and that's up on PrisonPlanet.com from the Associated Press.

02:56:15.000 Again, I am out of time here.

02:56:17.000 Be sure and join us back tonight, 9 to midnight Central, on the shortwave at 3210.

02:56:21.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2, at 9.985, or on your local AM or FM station.

02:56:27.000 God bless you all.

02:56:28.000 Now get out there and stand up against tyranny.

Alex Jones Show - December 06, 2004

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