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00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 Well, I said that December 7th would be a day that would live in infamy.

00:00:30.000 December 7th, 2004.

00:00:33.000 We've also got to say that it's the old one-two punch to the Constitution.

00:00:36.000 December 8th is a day that will live in infamy.

00:00:41.000 It, of course, is December 9th, 2004 today as we accelerate towards the end of 04 and 05.

00:00:50.000 And before they passed it, they wouldn't admit that it was the Patriot Act II in the National ID Card.

00:00:58.000 But last night I turned on Fox Television, stuck a tape in.

00:01:01.000 I said, I gotta get this on tape.

00:01:03.000 They're not going to be able to help themselves.

00:01:05.000 They will celebrate another stabbing wound to the heart of America.

00:01:13.000 And sure enough, I turned it on.

00:01:15.000 There was a smiling neocon going, the Justice Department is beside itself getting Patriot Act 2 passed. 0.89

00:01:24.000 He just took his lower lip out and smiled.

00:01:27.000 I mean, literally.

00:01:28.000 I knew, too.

00:01:29.000 I said, as soon as they pass this, they're going to have a celebration dance.

00:01:34.000 And so I started flipping through the other channels, and there were celebrations going on everywhere. 0.99

00:01:40.000 You fools, we own and run you. 1.00

00:01:43.000 We're going to dominate you. 1.00

00:01:45.000 You're our slaves. 0.93

00:01:46.000 I mean, they didn't come right out and say that, but they, they just, we got our Patriot Act, too.

00:01:51.000 There was a provision about ID cards.

00:01:54.000 And of course, then they'd add a lie to it.

00:01:55.000 We've beefed up Border Patrol with this new bill.

00:01:58.000 That's not true.

00:02:00.000 There are thousands less Border Patrol.

00:02:03.000 Thousands.

00:02:04.000 Two thousand less in the Texas sector alone.

00:02:08.000 Now, that's in the major Texas papers.

00:02:10.000 It's never in the national papers.

00:02:13.000 I mean, yeah, thousands quit to go be air marshals, and then they hire a thousand more.

00:02:17.000 Well, you've lost a thousand in one sector alone.

00:02:20.000 But at first, it was two thousand that quit.

00:02:25.000 So they just say, Beefed up Border Patrol!

00:02:28.000 People go, Oh, must be a conservative!

00:02:30.000 And they mix that in with Patriot Act, too, and, well, a National ID Card.

00:02:36.000 I'm getting calls and emails that, uh, now they're all over TV, and if you've seen this, you're welcome to call in, crowing, just up there, like a rooster, cock-a-doodle-doo!

00:02:48.000 We're enslaving you! 0.92

00:02:51.000 They're just all over the place going, well there was some provisions you might not have known about.

00:02:54.000 A few weeks ago when they passed forced psychological testing, they also tagged on to some of those bills.

00:03:03.000 Any group of senators being able to look at your income tax returns and have enemies list.

00:03:07.000 Stuff Nixon almost went to jail for.

00:03:09.000 But yeah, and now it's just out in the open legalized.

00:03:14.000 And also to have the IRS come after, come after you with repo men.

00:03:21.000 So you thought it was bad before with the IRS, now it's going to be repo men.

00:03:25.000 No judge, no jury, just uh, repo men.

00:03:28.000 And it's going to be funny when the cops and people start getting their stuff taken.

00:03:32.000 Because you know they love enforcing the system.

00:03:35.000 And they're going to have repo men dragging off their cars and stuff.

00:03:39.000 Ha ha ha ha ha!

00:03:40.000 You get to have some of what you've helped set up.

00:03:44.000 I'm sorry, it's just, you know, the police will go with the IRS to take somebody's house and throw them out on the street without even a court order.

00:03:52.000 But they never do it to their fellow officers.

00:03:55.000 But it won't matter, because they're going to turn the repo men loose on you.

00:03:57.000 Nothing against the repo men.

00:04:00.000 I have something against the IRS, though.

00:04:05.000 By the way, Congressman Ron Paul is coming up later, and we'll talk about our wondrous new freedoms, and the wondrous new dollar value that we have, and the wondrous national toll roads that now Time Magazine admits they're putting in.

00:04:22.000 Oh yeah, it's all just going public now.

00:04:24.000 Oh, it's an after-highway, it's gonna be a tax.

00:04:27.000 We knew that six, seven years ago.

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00:08:29.000 You know, I'm really upset, but at the same time, I know that we're going to be able to fight this at the local level.

00:08:34.000 We'll try to repeal this in the next session of Congress.

00:08:38.000 And they wouldn't talk about it in the mainstream media until after they'd passed it, and then they were all over TV crowing about it last night.

00:08:46.000 Oh, Patriot Act 2, provisions the Justice Department wanted passed.

00:08:50.000 And they're celebrating, Fox News said, over at the Justice Department.

00:08:55.000 The National ID Card provisions at the state level.

00:08:58.000 Here's CNN.

00:08:59.000 Senate okays intelligence overhaul bill.

00:09:02.000 The Senate approved an intelligence reorganization bill Wednesday, ending months-long debate in Congress over how to enact changes proposed by the Independent Commission, appointed by Bush, that investigated the September 11, 2001 attacks.

00:09:19.000 And we're joined by Congressman Ron Paul, who valiantly fought against this.

00:09:25.000 It was 300 to something to 75.

00:09:29.000 Most of the people who voted against it were Republicans.

00:09:32.000 These Democrats are emailing me going, look at the evil Republicans. 0.97

00:09:35.000 Well, look at your own Democrats.

00:09:36.000 This is the problem, is that you've got this elitist, tyrannical agenda in Washington that's bipartisan, and then it's true, what I'd call independents like Ron Paul, who happens to be a Republican, who are fighting this.

00:09:50.000 Congressman, thank you for joining us.

00:09:52.000 I know it's been a tough week for you.

00:09:53.000 Good to have you on.

00:09:54.000 Good to be with you.

00:09:54.000 Thank you.

00:09:56.000 We've had New Freedom initiative pass a few weeks ago, now this.

00:10:00.000 No one had a chance to read it as usual.

00:10:02.000 Can you tell us about it?

00:10:04.000 Well, it actually didn't get discussed very much.

00:10:07.000 You know, they talked a little bit about the chain of command and who controlled some of the intelligence to the military, and that was a big issue.

00:10:14.000 And they did talk somewhat about the licenses going to illegal aliens, and that was not changed.

00:10:21.000 That's stuck in the bill, so they will give licenses to illegal aliens. 0.54

00:10:25.000 But they didn't talk a whole lot About the national ID card, although it was moved along, it was further strengthened.

00:10:33.000 They've had some standardized requirements by the federal government now in all our driver's licenses.

00:10:40.000 But there's a reason for this, and that is that the conservative side is mixed on this.

00:10:47.000 Some of the anti-immigrant conservatives would do anything, even accept a national ID card for all of us, therefore punish all of us in order to take care of illegal aliens.

00:10:59.000 And they're not exactly as opposed to the national ID card.

00:11:05.000 I think we should be.

00:11:06.000 I think we can still deal with illegal immigration without further undermining our personal liberties.

00:11:12.000 It's sort of the like it is at the airports.

00:11:14.000 Taking away my freedom at the airport doesn't do anything to catch terrorists that might get on an airplane.

00:11:21.000 Well, in this subsection of the bill, 3,300 plus pages long, You have the internal passport, the internal checkpoints, basically taking what the TSA does in the airports and I guess expanding that out.

00:11:37.000 And a lot of conservatives are going, well, wait a minute, but you're going to give IDs to the illegal aliens. 0.85

00:11:43.000 They can get a consular matricula.

00:11:45.000 Anybody can get one of these and then go get an ID and basically have fake identities.

00:11:50.000 So the border is more wide open than ever and this makes it More of an open door for, quote, terrorists to come across.

00:11:59.000 But they're going to have a magnifying glass over our lives.

00:12:06.000 And we're making it easier for them to blend in.

00:12:09.000 You know, we're serving their purpose.

00:12:12.000 So, I don't know how the people can accept this, you know, if they know what's really in here.

00:12:17.000 And yet, the momentum decides what happens in Washington.

00:12:21.000 Once the momentum was changed up, it's going to pass.

00:12:24.000 Everybody gets scared.

00:12:25.000 Oh, if I vote against this, it sounds like I'm a weakling on intelligence and CIA and all this stuff.

00:12:34.000 So, 75 is a terrible number to be in opposition to this.

00:12:37.000 We should have had a lot more.

00:12:39.000 But this was a major event.

00:12:41.000 It'll get worse as time goes on.

00:12:43.000 They don't do it all at one time.

00:12:46.000 In 96, when they required that every state at least gather social security numbers, although they might not appear on our driver's licenses.

00:12:53.000 So it's been going on since 96, and this is moving along much further.

00:12:59.000 They're going to tie in these requirements with birth certificates and social security numbers and biometrics.

00:13:08.000 And the other big thing on this bill, it set up a national database.

00:13:14.000 It's moving along rather quickly, and it should frighten a lot of people.

00:13:19.000 Congressman, so we can try to navigate this bill, and I've gone to the Library of Congress website and found summaries of the 3,000 pages.

00:13:29.000 I've had trouble finding the whole thing, but you put out a legislative alert at 2.30 Eastern a couple days ago when the House passed it.

00:13:39.000 Well, that was back on Tuesday, and you said, as of 2.30, we still haven't gotten the full bill, and later you put out an alert saying it was over 3,000 pages, so obviously you don't even know at this time everything that was in it.

00:13:54.000 You did find some of the subsections that had been in there a few weeks ago for the National ID Card and Patriot Act.

00:14:00.000 This bill didn't have 3,000.

00:14:01.000 The one that had the 3,000 was the omnibus bill, which came up at the last minute.

00:14:06.000 This bill was smaller.

00:14:09.000 But still, very, very large, and we did not have it.

00:14:12.000 I mean, within hours, you know, you don't have it.

00:14:17.000 They never print out a copy, and so you never see the final version unless you get on the internet at the very end and you do your very best to go through it.

00:14:27.000 Shouldn't that be illegal?

00:14:28.000 I mean, how about passing a law that they have to read the bills?

00:14:33.000 That would be something.

00:14:34.000 I introduced that bill along that line one time, but it didn't get very far.

00:14:39.000 And it is a crime.

00:14:43.000 The process is a crime.

00:14:44.000 What they do is a crime.

00:14:46.000 But I think the process occurs because they're doing something that's criminal.

00:14:51.000 They don't want you to know about it.

00:14:53.000 They don't want you to have time to study this.

00:14:55.000 I mean, why didn't we take another month or two?

00:14:58.000 It's so naive to say, you know, if we had not passed that, You know, two days ago, that all of a sudden we would have been in greater danger.

00:15:07.000 Well, Congressman, let me understand this.

00:15:10.000 Our freedoms are in greater danger today.

00:15:12.000 They are.

00:15:13.000 I'm sorry for interrupting.

00:15:14.000 Just to be clear, Fox News said that Patriot Act II did pass last night.

00:15:19.000 Now, I'm trying to be clear on this.

00:15:21.000 Did it pass, or did subsections of it pass?

00:15:24.000 Now, the whole thing passed, and we voted on it the day before yesterday.

00:15:28.000 The Senate voted on it yesterday.

00:15:30.000 Yes.

00:15:30.000 I'll probably sign it tomorrow.

00:15:33.000 So Fox was accurate when they were very pleased about it.

00:15:35.000 They said that the Justice Department was, quote, celebrating and very exciting that the Patriot Act II had passed the Senate yesterday and was going to the President two days ago in the House.

00:15:46.000 So that did happen.

00:15:49.000 I'm talking about, are you referring to the intelligence bill, right?

00:15:52.000 Yes, but the Patriot Act II had been tagged onto... Oh yeah, a lot of those features are in there, right.

00:16:00.000 Oh boy.

00:16:03.000 So now are we going to try to repeal those sections of the next Congress?

00:16:08.000 I know you tried that earlier this year.

00:16:09.000 Well, you know, that is, you can always make the effort and introduce it and let people have a little bit of hope, but you know, when these things get passed, you know, it's a monumental task to reverse it.

00:16:23.000 You know, it's, It's almost impossible.

00:16:30.000 That doesn't mean you shouldn't try, and on occasion you do have a victory, but the odds of us reversing this trend... I mean, we have so many things going against us, whether it was the original Patriot Act or whether it's this one or not.

00:16:44.000 And then the President got his mandate.

00:16:48.000 I couldn't believe what kind of rallies we've had against the Patriot Act, and yet I was dumbfounded when I saw the President, you know, campaigning on it and going after Kerry for being weak on the Patriot Act.

00:17:02.000 I thought, well, the American people don't like the Patriot Act, but they were able to use it to their benefit.

00:17:08.000 He thinks he has a mandate for this type of activity.

00:17:10.000 I'm not quite sure that's the case, but at least he believes it and that's the way he's acting.

00:17:15.000 Yeah, he says it's a mandate when 80 plus percent of Americans in polls are against open borders.

00:17:20.000 He says he has a mandate for amnesty.

00:17:22.000 In major polls, everybody, Republican, Democrat, is against the Patriot Act.

00:17:26.000 400 cities, 4 states have thrown out the Patriot Act.

00:17:31.000 They passed the last one in the dead of night, as you documented.

00:17:34.000 Now they're doing this yet again, and we have the new Freedom Initiative.

00:17:38.000 I mean, how do you call any of this a conservative agenda?

00:17:43.000 Well, I can't, and I think it goes to show that this discrepancy probably reflects the ability of the propagandists to You know, take a negative poll and what the people really want and turn around and say, hey, look, the American people want this and actually go on to victory.

00:18:00.000 But, you know, I think the trick in the election was that people did have a reason to vote for Bush over Kerry, and it had to do with moral values and probably marriage.

00:18:09.000 But Bush then was able to take this and say, well, this is a mandate for us to Do more Patriot Act type legislation and more war overseas.

00:18:20.000 And I would say, I would point people to your neocon speech of over a year ago where you talk about the betrayal.

00:18:26.000 of conservatism.

00:18:27.000 Congressman, we've got to go to break.

00:18:29.000 I want to come back and talk about the economy and gold and what's happening to the dollar, but listeners wanted me to say this to you.

00:18:40.000 People are really giving up on Washington and Texans.

00:18:43.000 I know we tried to draft you to run for president, but why not come to the state of Texas?

00:18:48.000 Why not run for governor?

00:18:51.000 And why not take back states at a state-by-state basis level and go back to the 10th Amendment?

00:18:58.000 Couldn't you do more as governor or lieutenant governor?

00:19:01.000 Well, you'd really be bucking a trend.

00:19:04.000 I mean, they did claim the Civil Wars are even fought, but... You would cream Rick Perry, Mr. Toll Road.

00:19:14.000 I don't know.

00:19:15.000 They have money talks, and they're very powerful, and they would have many, many millions of dollars.

00:19:22.000 You are wildly popular in this state, and you know you could win if there was an election fraud.

00:19:28.000 Well, I'll check with Senator Hutchinson and see if she'll support me.

00:19:33.000 Well, you know what?

00:19:35.000 Look, you know, what are your approval ratings in this state?

00:19:38.000 Like 65%?

00:19:40.000 I don't know.

00:19:42.000 I know my district is okay, but I've not done any through the state.

00:19:46.000 Well, Congressman, please stay with us.

00:19:48.000 I think we may need to switch strategies and have people like yourself become governors.

00:19:54.000 But again, that's my humble opinion.

00:19:56.000 We'll be right back with Congressman Ron Paul.

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00:24:06.000 All right, to be clear, I talked to the congressman during the break.

00:24:11.000 Sections of Patriot Act II passed in the intelligence bill, the 9-11 bill, but the entire thing didn't.

00:24:19.000 So they're passing it, passing it piecemeal is what they're doing.

00:24:24.000 The National ID Card provision did indeed pass.

00:24:28.000 And we're talking to Congressman Ron Paul right now.

00:24:30.000 I just have to commend you, Congressman, and your staff.

00:24:33.000 I mean, when other people's congressmen won't even return calls, your folks were calling the alternative media telling them to fight the bill a couple days ago, and your staff is still there fighting, and was still there yesterday fighting this stuff in the Senate, when others were already leaving and going back to their districts.

00:24:51.000 So I can only commend you, Congressman.

00:24:53.000 Finishing up, though, concerning you running for governor of the state of Texas, is that something you could win?

00:24:59.000 Well, it would be tough.

00:25:04.000 I believe that the views that we hold, and your listeners hold, are popular enough that we could win if we had enough exposure, which means you have to, if you don't have sympathetic media, you have to have enough money to buy the advertisements and get the message out.

00:25:21.000 But I really do believe that people are, in great numbers, are in the majority, want to be left alone.

00:25:29.000 They like the free market, and they like to be left alone, and they'd like to see us to be doing a lot less overseas.

00:25:35.000 So I think these particular views and putting them at a state level that just keep the government small and keep the taxes low, yes, I think that those views are winnable, and a person could win on a platform like that.

00:25:52.000 I just want to spend a little bit more time on the Patriot Act and on the national ID card provisions in this bill.

00:25:59.000 If it makes it easier for illegal aliens and terrorists, which the bill clearly does, other Congressmen have been saying this, then how can they say we did this to keep you safe, we had to rush and do this to keep you safe?

00:26:10.000 I mean, this is a sick joke.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, it is, and at one point they believe in at least more open borders, and they believe that they shouldn't offend Anybody who's Hispanic, and because that's a political correct thing to do, and they're treading between these two issues, and then they have this pretense that they're going to do everything to make us safe and secure, and giving this more power to the CIA, and have a super agency, and spend, you know, I think that bill had 14 billion dollars in it.

00:26:41.000 It's a huge, it's a bigger bureaucracy than ever.

00:26:44.000 Now, 14.4.

00:26:44.000 So, in one sense, they're claiming You know, that their whole effort is to make us safe and secure at the same time they ignore the very things that they should be doing, and that is finding out who's coming into our country and who are the potential terrorists.

00:27:01.000 We've got about three minutes left.

00:27:02.000 Can you talk about the economy and gold and the plunging dollar a year and a half ago?

00:27:07.000 You gave a speech here in Central Texas and predicted depression.

00:27:11.000 Can you tell us what you see happening?

00:27:13.000 Well, I still think that the economy is going to continue to weaken.

00:27:17.000 I think in the last two days you saw an example of what happens when you have unsound money.

00:27:23.000 Yes, we can predict long term that the dollar will weaken and go down and the economy will weaken and prices will go up.

00:27:29.000 Eventually interest rates will go up.

00:27:31.000 But in the last two days you saw sudden shifts.

00:27:34.000 Which can be also very, very harmful to the marketplace.

00:27:38.000 This is such a difference to what happens if you have a sound currency throughout the world and everybody has a goldback currency.

00:27:47.000 You have stable currency.

00:27:49.000 We're seeing wild gyrations.

00:27:51.000 Wild gyrations.

00:27:53.000 It's fluctuating all the time.

00:27:55.000 To me it's something like if you and I were building a building and we were an architect and I was the contractor and we had a measuring stick like the yard or the foot, and it kept changing every day.

00:28:07.000 You know, what kind of a building would we have?

00:28:08.000 The measuring rod of economic value is the currency, and it's very unfound.

00:28:15.000 Why, bottom line, is the dollar eroding?

00:28:17.000 Because we print too many, and we print too many to support the politicians who spend too much.

00:28:24.000 It's no more complicated than that.

00:28:26.000 Since 1971, since there was no link to the dollar, to gold, the Congress has just been spending like crazy, running up deficits like crazy, And the Fed accommodates and prints the money.

00:28:38.000 When you print money, the value of that money has to go down.

00:28:42.000 It just doesn't go down evenly or steadily, and it doesn't affect everybody equally.

00:28:46.000 But ultimately, it loses value.

00:28:50.000 History shows that under these conditions, gold always goes up.

00:28:54.000 Not straight up, but eventually goes up.

00:28:56.000 Not too long ago in our history, our dollar was worth $20 an ounce.

00:29:01.000 Now it's $440 an ounce.

00:29:02.000 So that is the trend and it will go a lot higher.

00:29:06.000 There is inflation, regardless of what they say.

00:29:10.000 Congressmen, they're now even pushing new anti-terror legislation on the heels of this one.

00:29:17.000 Is there any end in sight to this black hole of tyranny?

00:29:20.000 I don't see it, not under today's circumstances, unless the American people decide that they want their freedom more than they want their security right now.

00:29:30.000 The message that the people in Congress get is people want to be safe and secure, both economically and physically, and that's what promotes the welfare state, and that's what promotes this anti-terrorist sentiment.

00:29:43.000 I think it's going to end when we run out of money.

00:29:45.000 Congressman, thank you so much for coming on.

00:29:47.000 Let's have a good Christmas.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:38:23.000 Ron in New York, you're on the air, welcome.

00:38:26.000 Hello Alex.

00:38:27.000 Hello sir.

00:38:27.000 We have biometric data, or will have it I'm sure, very soon in our driver's license as a result of this legislation yesterday.

00:38:35.000 Well, since 1993 we've had it in Texas, 48 states have it.

00:38:38.000 The digital photo is for a face scan template, the digital thumbprint, and now this is by-law, you'll have to have it to have a job, and in the bill, and Ron Paul's press release on this, Checkpoints with TSA type employees fondling you and your wife, not just in the airport, but on the roads.

00:38:56.000 We should just simplify it and call it this, what it is.

00:38:59.000 An internal, in Stalinistic fashion, an internal passport.

00:39:04.000 That's what Ron Paul's office called it.

00:39:06.000 That's what Jeff Dice's press secretary called it.

00:39:09.000 One word, tyranny.

00:39:10.000 And if you don't have it, you won't be able to accomplish or do a number of things that you may have to do.

00:39:15.000 Well, look, it's the same thing.

00:39:16.000 They're giving them all ID cards in Iraq, and then in extreme cases like Fallujah, if you don't have an ID card, they kill you on the spot.

00:39:22.000 Source, NBC Nightly News, Boston Globe.

00:39:25.000 You know, one thing that came across in your interview with the Congressman was, what I extrapolated from it, is in a diplomatic way as he could, He indicated that what runs American politics, and that's a filthy word in my opinion, American politics, it's two very filthy words, is money.

00:39:45.000 That's really what it comes down to.

00:39:47.000 Not what's right or wrong, not even what a majority, even a large majority would want, but the engine that runs it is money.

00:39:55.000 And that being the case, American politics will never have legitimacy Because you will always have a small handful of interests with a lot of money who will be running and creating social policy and getting people elected who may not be, and in many cases are not, in favor of what the majority want.

00:40:12.000 This is what I extrapolated from what he said.

00:40:15.000 I think what's going to have to happen is we've got to take this fight to a different level.

00:40:19.000 These people governed by Machiavelli and machination.

00:40:22.000 We're going to have to machinate a little bit back ourselves.

00:40:25.000 Well, you've called for years.

00:40:26.000 You're a retired New York police officer, and I believe you said detective.

00:40:30.000 No, not detective.

00:40:31.000 I was a retired officer.

00:40:32.000 Okay.

00:40:34.000 Must be another New York officer who calls in.

00:40:37.000 But what I'm trying to get to here on this, Ron, is that this is organized crime.

00:40:42.000 They operate via organized crime, but with an overlay of space-age PR firms or propagandists.

00:40:50.000 Correct.

00:40:51.000 And I believe the solution is having people like Judge Roy Moore run in Alabama, and if they don't have the machines in, he can win, to force Ron Paul to run for Governor of Texas before all these machines are in place, and to have a ring of states uh... free states uh... across the nation and to do that though we've got to stop the electronic machine from going in The electronic machines, the easily manipulated voting machines or processes, that's true.

00:41:19.000 Plus, it does seem, it does seem, and I do notice this with the American people, Alex, and part of the blame for this goes on the American people, no matter what anyone says, I do blame them.

00:41:28.000 They're just uninformed.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, I mean, people can find out the truth.

00:41:32.000 They love pop entertainment more than they love things that are very important and integral to their lives, and you've got to admit that.

00:41:38.000 They'd rather watch a sports game or a show.

00:41:41.000 Do you know what was on the cover of two of our major New York papers yesterday, Alex?

00:41:44.000 Well, this was going on.

00:41:46.000 This bill that will change our lives.

00:41:47.000 This major piece of legislation.

00:41:49.000 Do you know what was on the cover of our newspapers here?

00:41:52.000 I don't know.

00:41:52.000 Michael Jackson.

00:41:54.000 No, that some guy, two stories in the New York Daily News, that some guy gave his girlfriend a $13,000 engagement ring, and that Trump gave his girlfriend some kind of astronomically priced engagement ring.

00:42:05.000 Well, your democracy was being ripped apart by wolves.

00:42:11.000 On the cover of our papers.

00:42:12.000 And you know where the story about the intelligence bill was?

00:42:15.000 Buried deep in the paper.

00:42:16.000 And it probably... I didn't find one mainstream article, not a Neocon publication, none of them, that said Patriot Act, National ID Card.

00:42:26.000 It was just, don't you want them to be able to communicate and stop Al-Qaeda?

00:42:29.000 Yeah, but this is basically what it is.

00:42:32.000 And they trot out surviving members of 9-11 families.

00:42:36.000 I want to make something clear about that, and I think it's time the line is drawn with this, because sometimes Something could go too far regardless.

00:42:43.000 Yeah, I did say that.

00:42:44.000 They trot out of thousands of families, 400 families in just one suit suing Bush over involvement.

00:42:53.000 You've got the other suit.

00:42:55.000 uh... there with Ellen Mariani against a bunch of the victims' families. 1.00

00:43:00.000 You've had families ring the White House three times that I know of with signs saying Bush knew, Bush did it.

00:43:06.000 You've had families jump up live on C-SPAN about four different times and scream, the government did it, the government's involved.

00:43:12.000 That all gets ignored, and yeah, they trot out three or four families, people who mean well, going, Pass this for my family!

00:43:20.000 Pass this for my family!

00:43:21.000 Go ahead.

00:43:22.000 Right.

00:43:22.000 Well, listen, I'm going to tell you something.

00:43:25.000 Some may mean, well, though my sympathy goes out to them for the loss of their loved ones, it doesn't mean that A, they're experts, okay, on national security, or geo-national politics.

00:43:36.000 B, it doesn't mean that even some of them are not taken up with the celebrity involved, you know, and being trot out and used for that purpose, and who knows, you know, their egos may- Look, it's usually four or five different women 0.99

00:43:48.000 And it's the same women, and they trot them around, and then you'll see a ten second blurb on CNN with signs saying, CNN, one time I was watching, I was up in Minnesota visiting the network like two years ago, and CNN said, some of the victims' families protested in a ring around the White House, thousands of them protesting, saying not enough was done, and then it showed the signs and it was Bush did it!

00:44:14.000 But they didn't say anything else about it.

00:44:16.000 Why don't we see them on TV?

00:44:17.000 Because the media is controlled, okay, by the same mainstream... Well, if you don't think it's controlled, folks, the media didn't tell you what was in this bill, and then minutes after it passed, they were on TV laughing about it.

00:44:30.000 Thanks for the call.

00:44:31.000 They were on TV laughing about it.

00:44:33.000 They knew what was in it.

00:44:35.000 Tim in Ohio.

00:44:36.000 Tim, go ahead.

00:44:36.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

00:44:38.000 Hello.

00:44:38.000 Another edition of As the World Turns.

00:44:41.000 Are none of these processes uh... impeachable offenses and and why hasn't that been uh... well you know they couldn't impeach bill clinton on missile secrets for the chai cause because the republicans were all involved in it they had to go after him over you know oval office sexual escapades and nobody's going to go after Bush I mean the democrats all voted for this they love it yeah Clinton you gotta like a man who thinks harass is two words

00:45:11.000 I didn't understand that, but Tim, I appreciate the call.

00:45:15.000 Let's talk to Rosemary in Indiana. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Go ahead, Rosemary.

00:45:18.000 Yes, Alex, thank you for accepting my call.

00:45:23.000 You know, people are afraid.

00:45:26.000 First off, they don't really understand the depth of what is happening unless they listen to your program a few times.

00:45:35.000 But one of the things I came up with, because I'm like a little town USA, and I have copied out all the Genesis Communication Network schedule and their phone numbers and addresses, a lot of the websites that you've had on your radio program, and I'm putting them in, my Christmas cards, and I'm sending them out to every person I know, including the newspapers, whether I subscribe to them or not.

00:46:03.000 Because I think it's time that people woke up and if nothing else, just get that little bit of information out there.

00:46:10.000 The rest is up to them.

00:46:12.000 Well, you're right.

00:46:13.000 We have tens of millions of people that are awake.

00:46:16.000 And if you all just wake up one person, that's tens of millions more.

00:46:20.000 If they wake up one more person, that's tens of millions.

00:46:23.000 And so, yes, it's about not going, look at the size of that thing.

00:46:27.000 That new world order is too big, too bad.

00:46:29.000 It's about engaging it.

00:46:30.000 And look, don't be disheartened by them passing all this.

00:46:33.000 Now they've got to try to implement it.

00:46:35.000 Right.

00:46:36.000 And they can't implement it if people keep getting a hold of their senators. 0.86

00:46:40.000 Well, they can't implement it if we sue them and get cities to pass laws against it and states to do it. 0.63

00:46:45.000 And if we fight it, which we are doing.

00:46:47.000 Right.

00:46:48.000 Look, look, look.

00:46:49.000 The more, the tighter they squeeze, the more they push, the more resistance mounts.

00:46:53.000 I've never seen an awakening like it.

00:46:56.000 Everybody's waking up.

00:46:57.000 Well, it's about time, but I thought I'd add my two cents and said, when you send out them greeting cards, anniversary cards, birthday cards, regardless, send those little Good morning, Alex.

00:47:08.000 sites or like you said, get your disc and send it along with them.

00:47:13.000 So you keep up the good work and thank you so much for taking my call.

00:47:16.000 Rosemary, thank you for calling.

00:47:18.000 God bless you and have a great holiday.

00:47:20.000 John in Louisiana.

00:47:21.000 John, welcome.

00:47:22.000 Yes, good morning, Alex.

00:47:24.000 Alex, you know and I know and a few others know that Congress is redundant.

00:47:29.000 If they were dismissed, we wouldn't be deceived by them.

00:47:33.000 If we could just get them to go home and stay out of Washington, they have no authority, they have surrendered that in 1933.

00:47:39.000 But I wanted to talk about- Well, hold on, I'm glad you brought that up.

00:47:42.000 Congress openly on a- On a congressional basis, every session gives up more of its authority.

00:47:49.000 They're making themselves irrelevant.

00:47:51.000 They give up their authority on law enforcement to the executive.

00:47:54.000 They give up their authority on terrorism and war making to the executive.

00:47:57.000 They give up their authority on trade to the executive.

00:48:00.000 They're giving up their authority to the executive or the dictatorial branch en masse.

00:48:06.000 Go ahead.

00:48:07.000 Alex, yes, those are charades you've been mentioning there.

00:48:11.000 They gave up all authority in 1933 on March the 9th.

00:48:15.000 They surrendered all authority and responsibility to the President.

00:48:19.000 It's been reaffirmed by the Church Senate Committee in 1973.

00:48:22.000 There's no doubt about it, and very few people on our side want to admit it.

00:48:27.000 They're in denial!

00:48:28.000 Well, certainly, the executive claimed the power in 33, confiscated the gold at Machine Gun Point, gave his paper back, clearly they began declaring yearly emergencies, I've seen them do it on C-SPAN, to then have control over Congress.

00:48:43.000 But Congress, the will to stand up is the will to have freedom.

00:48:47.000 And they can still stand up and still say no, the problem is most of them are so dirty, or are being blackmailed, or they die in auto accidents or plane crashes when they say no.

00:48:57.000 Congress and numerous legal scholars say that there ain't no way that Congress can reassert their authority after March the 9th, 1933.

00:49:08.000 Well, I've seen that and that's just not the case.

00:49:12.000 Well, let's talk about money.

00:49:13.000 There's not going to be an imminent collapse of the dollar because Japan and China and Europe, they're not going to do that.

00:49:21.000 It's in their self-interest not to let that happen.

00:49:24.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

00:49:26.000 There's not going to be an imminent collapse.

00:49:27.000 It's been devalued by 45%.

00:49:28.000 Right.

00:49:31.000 It's going to be a control collapse.

00:49:33.000 It's all in the plan.

00:49:34.000 It'll be a slow decay.

00:49:36.000 Well, that was what they said at the Davos Economic Forum three years ago when the dollar, when the euro was 89 cents to a dollar that was worth 100 pennies.

00:49:48.000 And then now it's dropped by 45%.

00:49:51.000 But no, you're right.

00:49:52.000 It is a controlled implosion.

00:49:54.000 Yes.

00:49:55.000 A sudden collapse might bring about unpredictable events.

00:49:59.000 They don't want that to happen.

00:50:00.000 They're in control and they're not going to take a chance on that.

00:50:03.000 But still, the controlled implosion is still an implosion.

00:50:07.000 Absolutely.

00:50:08.000 Absolutely.

00:50:09.000 We're done for on the money scene.

00:50:10.000 Yes, we're done for.

00:50:12.000 And it's all in the plan.

00:50:14.000 It's all in the stated plan.

00:50:15.000 I mean, this is public.

00:50:16.000 Yes.

00:50:19.000 If people don't get out of money, paper, they're doomed.

00:50:21.000 A lot of them are going to starve to death.

00:50:25.000 Well, you know, we had a depression in this country which was admittedly engineered, that's part of the public record, to consolidate wealth by the elite, and Back then we were moral and 90% of people had skills in gardening.

00:50:39.000 We farmed.

00:50:41.000 We were a farming nation.

00:50:42.000 We could feed ourselves.

00:50:43.000 We don't exist like that anymore.

00:50:44.000 We don't farm.

00:50:45.000 We don't even know how to farm.

00:50:46.000 You want to know something scary?

00:50:48.000 One of these Lexus drivers?

00:50:50.000 Yep.

00:50:50.000 With their manicured little fingernails?

00:50:52.000 Yep.

00:50:52.000 You imagine them a month after not having any food or money.

00:50:55.000 Yeah, the rivers are going to be choked with them, buddy.

00:50:59.000 Well, they'll grovel to the government.

00:51:00.000 We'll be back.

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00:54:17.000 Wide open phones, bunch of news coming up the next hour.

00:54:21.000 Talking about passage of large sections of Patriot Act 2, a national ID card provision yesterday by the Senate, and the media that wouldn't talk about those provisions suddenly running out celebrating openly, I mean literally, smiling, laughing, on TV. 0.95

00:54:35.000 These scum that work for Fox and others just get off on laughing at us. 0.89

00:54:40.000 They feel like they're part of the power system. 1.00

00:54:42.000 Oh, you cattle are in our cages. 1.00

00:54:44.000 We've got you now.

00:54:46.000 Tom in Arizona.

00:54:47.000 Tom, you're on the air.

00:54:48.000 Go ahead.

00:54:49.000 Yeah, Alex, I was shocked when I hit your site yesterday and read that.

00:54:53.000 I mean, it's like a revelation coming true in small incremental steps.

00:55:00.000 Read what?

00:55:01.000 Read about the legislation?

00:55:02.000 Yes, exactly.

00:55:03.000 Yeah, I mean, where else do you find it but from Ron Paul or our website?

00:55:07.000 And then after it passed, though, it was all over TV last night!

00:55:10.000 You don't find it.

00:55:11.000 And what I immediately did is I emailed everybody I knew with the link to write your local state representative to vote against it.

00:55:22.000 And I had another question about Homeland Security hired the ex-Nazi guy.

00:55:28.000 Marcus, what was his last name?

00:55:30.000 I forget.

00:55:30.000 It's Wolf.

00:55:31.000 And he wasn't a Nazi.

00:55:34.000 He was actually Jewish.

00:55:36.000 The Silver Fox was the Stasi chief in East Germany. 0.86

00:55:40.000 Ah, okay, okay.

00:55:41.000 So is that confirmed or is it still... Well, the others, it is confirmed that as consultants they hired former KGB bosses.

00:55:50.000 That is confirmed.

00:55:52.000 And, uh, it has not been denied.

00:55:54.000 We've called about Marcus Wolfe, and we know he has done some consulting.

00:55:58.000 I did find where he'd written some books with neocons and stuff.

00:56:02.000 Uh, and we know they're consulting with Israel, and we know he lives part of the time in Israel now, and it looks like it's accurate.

00:56:08.000 Well, and how can people deny this, that they're implementing a, I would say, Nazi-like state in America? 0.69

00:56:15.000 Well, the SCSI kept everybody safe.

00:56:17.000 They were good people.

00:56:18.000 Oh, of course.

00:56:19.000 Marcus Wolff was the architect of 1 in 10 being a spy, and they are setting up the tips program and the rest of it.

00:56:24.000 What's wrong with that?

00:56:25.000 But the border, like this new bill they passed yesterday, though, that Bush is going to sign, it makes it easier for the illegal aliens.

00:56:32.000 You heard Congressman Paul.

00:56:33.000 It's in there.

00:56:35.000 It makes it easier, more open borders, but that's okay.

00:56:39.000 You know, I have a friend who lives in Germany, and I send her links and emails and stuff on stories, and she says that what is happening in America now is pretty much what happened before and during while Hitler took over.

00:56:54.000 And she can't believe that America is doing that.

00:56:57.000 And she even said, well maybe you should just move here.

00:57:01.000 And I said, well the problem with that is, it's everywhere.

00:57:05.000 They're pulling the same stuff over there.

00:57:08.000 They've already been disarmed though.

00:57:09.000 We've still got guns and private property.

00:57:12.000 And so that's why the big move is against us.

00:57:14.000 And I appreciate your call.

00:57:16.000 Good to hear from you.

00:57:19.000 My friends, people ask, why would they want tyranny?

00:57:22.000 Why would a government want to do something bad?

00:57:25.000 Well, why in history is that the norm?

00:57:27.000 Freedom being the exception.

00:57:29.000 America is America because we have the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

00:57:32.000 That's why we're America!

00:57:34.000 You get rid of that, folks!

00:57:35.000 We're not America anymore!

00:57:37.000 What can people not understand about that?

00:57:39.000 People say, well, why would they want tyranny?

00:57:42.000 It's a straitjacket.

00:57:43.000 Before a criminal has their way with you, before they rob you or rape you or whatever, They want to tie you up.

00:57:50.000 We're being tied up right now.

00:57:53.000 So they can then take the pension funds, take the private property.

00:57:58.000 It won't be free market.

00:57:59.000 It'll be select corporations acting in a criminal manner through governmental powers doing this to us.

00:58:05.000 Now, this is the reality.

00:58:09.000 But we don't have to go along with it.

00:58:11.000 This could only succeed if we get all fearful and get behind it and don't stand up for ourselves or our neighbors or in our communities.

00:58:19.000 This could only happen if we're not engaged.

00:58:25.000 So pick a liberty issue, whether it's property rights, the second amendment, sovereignty, the open borders, fighting the free trade area of the Americas.

00:58:33.000 Pick an issue.

00:58:34.000 Get involved on that issue.

00:58:38.000 And create and expand the alternative media.

00:58:44.000 Look, this is the beginning of the end for the New World Order. 0.78

00:58:46.000 They are going to fail and fail mildly.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Welcome back, my friends, already into hour number two on this December 9th, 2004, worldwide transmission against the globalists.

00:59:25.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:59:28.000 The elite are setting up their enslavement grid so they can have their way with the population.

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00:59:51.000 They passed sections of Patriot Act 2, the National ID Card legislation, and much more yesterday.

00:59:58.000 The House passed it two days ago, the Senate yesterday.

01:00:01.000 The media that wouldn't talk about the National ID Card and Patriot Act provisions suddenly started spouting off and laughing about it last night.

01:00:10.000 They think they're coming in for the big win, and that's the beginning of the end for the globalists.

01:00:14.000 Go ahead and keep pushing for every action, equal or greater reaction.

01:00:19.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Joan in Florida.

01:00:22.000 You're on the air.

01:00:23.000 Hi, Alex.

01:00:24.000 It's been a while.

01:00:25.000 Hey, good to hear from you.

01:00:26.000 Yeah, good to hear you.

01:00:29.000 Okay, this morning, I think it was, I heard that Bush is not just going to sign The reorganization bill right away because he wants to plan a celebration.

01:00:41.000 And isn't that just like them?

01:00:44.000 I told you, I just said they're celebrating.

01:00:46.000 Oh yeah, but what I'm saying is... Somebody's got to take that.

01:00:49.000 Where did you see that?

01:00:50.000 Oh no, it came over the radio.

01:00:53.000 But I mean, watch for it because when...

01:00:56.000 But I thought the terrorists were about to attack us any minute, so we had to let all the illegal aliens in. 1.00

01:01:00.000 That's what this did.

01:01:01.000 Here's the driver's license.

01:01:02.000 It actually makes it easier for terrorists.

01:01:04.000 We've got to celebrate.

01:01:05.000 Well, if they're about to attack any minute, why, we'd better sign it right now!

01:01:09.000 And the other thing, Alex, well, anyhow, just watch when they announce that he's going to have the signing and they, he's not going to sign it right away.

01:01:17.000 Of course, what was the rush then?

01:01:19.000 Well, we've got to have a celebration.

01:01:21.000 We've got to have a celebration.

01:01:22.000 Now, the other thing is... See, I told you they were celebrating on TV.

01:01:25.000 Right.

01:01:26.000 The sixty-seven, or seventy-six, which was it?

01:01:30.000 Seventy-six, no, sixty-seven Republicans, Jenny Brown, Wade from Florida, was on this morning, and then LaHood from Illinois, and he said, well, the priority is when we come back, we're going to work on the immigration.

01:01:47.000 The only thing is, there has been rumor that it'll be tied to an extension of financial support or an extension on funding for our troops.

01:01:58.000 And Jenny Brown Waite said that if they work on this bill, you know, for the immigration, you know, that if they put anything in there to do with amnesty, it won't be a fit bill.

01:02:13.000 So I'm already starting to call and say, look, Make the immigration bill stand alone.

01:02:20.000 Don't tie it to another bill.

01:02:22.000 And again, for those that just joined us, this bill they passed yesterday that Lord Bush is going to be signing.

01:02:29.000 makes it easier for illegals and terrorists and issues than licenses off any fake ID, any matricular card they give them. 0.68

01:02:36.000 And you watched that immigration thing in the past.

01:02:39.000 No.

01:02:40.000 And there will be a celebration of that, I'm sure.

01:02:43.000 So what were you watching when you heard Lord Bush is going to have a... I mean, imagine if the Soviets were in America! 0.75

01:02:49.000 That was on WFLA radio.

01:02:53.000 So it's probably on the AP line.

01:02:56.000 You know, they pull a lot of In the morning, off the AP.

01:02:59.000 Yeah, I'd imagine.

01:03:01.000 All you do is get a little blip.

01:03:03.000 The point I was going to make is, imagine if the Soviets ran America, and they were going to issue a national ID card. 0.64

01:03:08.000 Imagine they have a celebration over hurting America, stabbing America, and slaughtering America.

01:03:13.000 Oh, they have to look back to when Hitler came into power. 0.82

01:03:18.000 All the pomp and circumstance.

01:03:20.000 But he gives the illegals waivers! 0.99

01:03:22.000 I mean, how do people... He had the congressman on last hour, folks.

01:03:26.000 This is a sick joke. 1.00

01:03:28.000 This is a sick, sick, sick... It has nothing to do with... Well, aren't you for the intelligence agencies being able to communicate? 0.93

01:03:35.000 They've always been able to communicate.

01:03:38.000 This bill had nothing to do with that.

01:03:39.000 Oh, Alex, let me get one thing in here real quick.

01:03:42.000 They said the FBI had no way of transferring pictures.

01:03:47.000 Give me a break.

01:03:48.000 We watch old movies and they were able to... Yeah, I hear you.

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01:07:22.000 Of course, we're talking about the aftermath of A national ID card piece of legislation inside the Intelligence Reform Bill.

01:07:30.000 And of course sections of Patriot Act 2 passing by the Senate yesterday.

01:07:34.000 And Joan from Florida, I don't doubt her, but did you see this?

01:07:40.000 Bush is saying he's going to hold off signing it for a while to plan a party, a celebration.

01:07:46.000 I thought Homeland Security was the new layer of bureaucracy.

01:07:49.000 Well, now there'll be another layer.

01:07:50.000 And then they do try stuff like, well, the FBI can't even call people.

01:07:54.000 The FBI doesn't even have computers.

01:07:56.000 They have two cups with a string between them.

01:07:58.000 That's how they communicate.

01:08:01.000 They do that at the local level.

01:08:02.000 Give us more taxes or we can't fill the potholes or put radios in the ambulance suits.

01:08:07.000 You know, after they spend money on everything else, and put money in trust funds, and put money into the stock market, and have all these double sets of books.

01:08:15.000 No, there's no money!

01:08:16.000 We've got to put a satellite tracker box in your car, even though we're raising more money than ever off fuel usage.

01:08:22.000 You know, it's just, it's all a fraud.

01:08:25.000 But the media wouldn't tell you what was in those bills.

01:08:27.000 We reported on it, we fought it.

01:08:29.000 Now, after they pass it, though, Fox News, well, Patriot Act 2, National ID cards, It's good for you.

01:08:36.000 You need it. 0.97

01:08:39.000 Sick! 0.94

01:08:40.000 And I was using the term all the first hour, celebration, celebration. 0.96

01:08:44.000 They were celebrating on TV last night.

01:08:47.000 I mean, the actual pundits, you know, this is good. 1.00

01:08:49.000 We got the slaves where we want them now, these idiots. 1.00

01:08:52.000 And then she calls in and goes, oh, they said they're going to have a celebration. 1.00

01:08:55.000 Maybe they can have a celebration where they have a big replica of the Constitution and they can burn it.

01:09:00.000 And as it burns, they can like roast hot dogs and marshmallows over it and laugh.

01:09:06.000 You know, it's just a lot of fun, folks. 0.98

01:09:08.000 It's a lot of fun killing America. 0.99

01:09:10.000 It's a celebration! 0.99

01:09:12.000 And, of course, having waivers to protect the illegal aliens and make it where they don't have to be under the same rules as citizens.

01:09:17.000 That was even in the bill.

01:09:18.000 Oh, I have to protect them.

01:09:19.000 That's a real terror threat.

01:09:21.000 Let's leave that wide open.

01:09:22.000 Hopefully there will be some real terrorists instead of us having to always do it ourselves, the globalists said.

01:09:27.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jeffrey in Louisiana, then Isaac, Steve, Charles, and others.

01:09:33.000 Go ahead, Jeffrey.

01:09:34.000 Hi, I have a late-breaking story from New Orleans.

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01:09:47.000 Nine-year-old daughter of Adrienne Nobles, who was a barkeeper in the French Quarter, made imitation jello in small shot glasses and was giving them out to her friends.

01:09:58.000 But because the appearance of the glasses appeared as if they were the same as jello containing alcoholic beverages.

01:10:04.000 No, I saw the article.

01:10:05.000 They said because it resembled alcohol.

01:10:07.000 Right.

01:10:08.000 So she was expelled from school Wednesday today.

01:10:11.000 It's a thought crime.

01:10:11.000 No, no, no.

01:10:12.000 It's a thought crime.

01:10:14.000 I guess if you act like you're smoking a cigar with a pencil stub, stuff we all did as kids, go ahead.

01:10:20.000 They arrest you for one aspirin, one cigarette.

01:10:22.000 Now it's the image of aspirin.

01:10:24.000 The image of cigarettes.

01:10:25.000 Write the word gun in your essay.

01:10:28.000 My father's in the Marines.

01:10:29.000 He has an M-16 firearm.

01:10:31.000 You're arrested.

01:10:32.000 It's all thought crime.

01:10:34.000 Go ahead.

01:10:34.000 I actually have that article.

01:10:36.000 Today, she surrendered her daughter and the daughter will submit to drug testing.

01:10:40.000 They will submit to counseling and the government will dictate how they think.

01:10:44.000 Now, on top of that, I don't know if you were emphasizing the sale of IBM's computers to Conobo of Red China, but this is part of the You're throwing out of our American industry, putting our industry under communist control, which came out Tuesday afternoon and was broadcast over the BBC, shortwave, all over the place. 0.90

01:11:05.000 Well, also the new rival to Google that Bill Clinton helped launch is right about the Chinese government.

01:11:09.000 That's right.

01:11:10.000 And almost everything's being shipped over there.

01:11:13.000 This is part of the plan.

01:11:14.000 They've got to suck us dry, use us as the military force to build the new world order, to take over the sovereign countries, then we'll take the blame for it, and Europe will come riding in as the good cop. 0.62

01:11:24.000 Yeah, that's what they're supposedly going to have, but I'm afraid that Europe is now experiencing high unemployment, even though the euro is stronger than the dollar.

01:11:31.000 Even European unemployment is getting to the point that some of the European car makers are closing their plants in Germany.

01:11:39.000 Yeah, it's about 18%.

01:11:41.000 Right, and the point is that this whole business is really a fulfillment of Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand and the conditions that brought about the that are bringing about the destruction of our civilization.

01:11:53.000 Hey, but what's wrong with a child or a twelve-year-old honor student?

01:11:57.000 They say, write an essay about your parents, which they actually use for spying information.

01:12:01.000 They have them write them on computer terminals now.

01:12:03.000 And the child goes, my father's a captain in the Marines.

01:12:05.000 He carries an M-16 and a digital relay system for satellite coordinates.

01:12:11.000 My father's a... And they actually... The teacher reads it.

01:12:14.000 She gets very quiet.

01:12:16.000 She leaves the room.

01:12:16.000 They call the police because he could be a terrorist.

01:12:19.000 This was in the news.

01:12:20.000 They escort him out.

01:12:21.000 And, uh, he has to sign over his rights, go on probation.

01:12:24.000 And, of course, it was never a trial.

01:12:27.000 They just say, sign here, and then you sign your rights over.

01:12:30.000 Slot crime, or that the valedictorian, last day of school, is gonna put on a party and has some plastic, uh, a little case of plastic spoons and knife and forks, and is gonna put on a little cake and things at the end, and the security guard sees it in her front seat, and they call her out of class, put her in handcuffs, call in the office.

01:12:49.000 This is, folks, this is in the news.

01:12:52.000 This is the new America. 0.51

01:12:54.000 Any way to get you in the system.

01:12:56.000 And now, I did have the article yesterday.

01:12:58.000 She had a little party.

01:13:00.000 Make some little cups and little paper cups, little jellos.

01:13:04.000 No alcohol, they admitted that.

01:13:06.000 And they said, well, it resembles it.

01:13:08.000 You're now a criminal.

01:13:09.000 Sign over your rights.

01:13:10.000 And the mother didn't know. 0.86

01:13:11.000 And she thinks the new way in America is being like the Soviet Union, where the men with the guns say, sign here.

01:13:17.000 You sign that you agree to be a criminal.

01:13:19.000 And then this is the new system.

01:13:20.000 I'm sure they'll have her on multiple drugs within the end of the month. 1.00

01:13:23.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

01:13:24.000 And of course, all this going on... Well, it's like this deranged woman who cut her baby's arms off up there. 1.00

01:13:34.000 Part of some weird Christian group. 0.65

01:13:36.000 Again, folks, I'm a Christian, but this guy was saying he's a prophet and all this stuff.

01:13:39.000 And, you know, obviously some weirdos up in Dallas.

01:13:42.000 But the woman was fine until she walked outside without her baby, and the neighbor didn't like her and called him. 1.00

01:13:48.000 CPS grabbed her, made her go on a bunch of Prozac, then she flipped out, which they always do, folks, and cut her baby's arms off, and instead it's, oh boy, they should have done something.

01:14:00.000 I guarantee you it's those drugs.

01:14:02.000 The woman who drowned her kids was on the drugs. 1.00

01:14:04.000 They're always on the drugs! 0.99

01:14:05.000 That's correct, and that's one of the hypocrisy of the drug war, where they put you in jail for trying to cure cancer with marijuana or laetrile, while allowing this kind of shenanigans that you just described to go on.

01:14:18.000 Well, I'll let you go, Alex, but I wanted to let you know that the story just broke here in New Orleans, that that girl is now a prisoner of the government, and they're going to have to go under all kinds of testing and everything else.

01:14:29.000 I've seen it, where, again, plastic knife, Uh, with your, uh, tablecloth and cake.

01:14:35.000 Again, Cobweb Spy sees a cake, sees plastic knives.

01:14:41.000 Uh, you know, you know the little packages you buy with the forks and knives and spoons?

01:14:44.000 I know!

01:14:46.000 You don't have to tell me, and of course, all this upheaving with the IBM sale to Red China, showing that the Communist Conspiracy is a Communist Conspiracy, just showed you exactly what's going on. 0.55

01:14:56.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

01:14:57.000 We'll keep in touch.

01:14:58.000 I mean, I think it's freedom, folks.

01:14:58.000 Thank you.

01:15:00.000 I think it's freedom on CBS News.

01:15:03.000 Last year, they showed children lining up who'd been late to class three times.

01:15:08.000 If you're late to class, they count that as one absence, and then criminally charge you with truancy.

01:15:13.000 But the state law says one unexcused isn't.

01:15:17.000 In fact, it takes over ten in a semester.

01:15:20.000 But it doesn't matter, it's all color of law.

01:15:22.000 And they even have a portable building at the school, and they call the little middle schoolers out, and then the judge screams at them, it's all on tape, and tells the parents, sign here.

01:15:30.000 And the father goes, yes ma'am, I want to help.

01:15:32.000 And they sign, the way they write, and she goes, now I'm ordering drug testing, right after they sign it.

01:15:37.000 Now I'm ordering drug testing and you're under our control now. 0.98

01:15:37.000 This is the only news. 0.98

01:15:39.000 Do you understand?

01:15:40.000 Yes ma'am, yes ma'am.

01:15:41.000 Good.

01:15:42.000 And then the kid messes up again and now you're going to be going to the prison college.

01:15:47.000 Now you're going to be in juvenile hall where you're going to get beat up by older youth and going to learn how to use drugs and learn how to be part of the system.

01:15:59.000 All elaborately designed.

01:16:01.000 A massive crime being committed.

01:16:05.000 In Austin, Texas, if you're ever arrested, they walk up to the jail cell and go, just sign here and we'll let you out.

01:16:11.000 Most people don't read it.

01:16:12.000 It says, I am a drug addict.

01:16:14.000 I am involved in family violence.

01:16:17.000 I am a drunk driver. 0.95

01:16:19.000 I am a wife beater. 0.74

01:16:21.000 It's a big form with nine different things on the back, and you agree to a further judification, but you sign yourself over.

01:16:30.000 Personal recognizance bond.

01:16:32.000 And we even got a news piece done on this locally, and they said on the news piece, we buried it here, CBS News again, they just said, you thought in America that you were innocent until proven guilty.

01:16:42.000 Well, not in Travis County, you are guilty until released.

01:16:47.000 You don't go to trial, you just sign over your rights and go pay thousands of dollars for classes.

01:16:51.000 Now, when I first learned of this, I didn't believe it.

01:16:55.000 I walked right up to the jail window and I said, is there a form you ask people to sign?

01:16:59.000 She said, sure, want one?

01:17:01.000 And just gave it to me.

01:17:02.000 I walked off and didn't put it on TV.

01:17:05.000 See, in the Soviet Union, they hid this stuff underground.

01:17:10.000 They would take you underground and torture you and make you sign documents, but they never admitted it.

01:17:14.000 You know, they knew, this is evil.

01:17:16.000 You know, the Soviets knew it was evil, so they hid it. 0.95

01:17:18.000 In America, we're so dumbed down, it's all out in the open.

01:17:22.000 And they found, the criminals have found, if you just act normal while you're committing the crime, nonchalantly, then the general public has no mooring, or no understanding of rights, or liberty, or society, no common sense.

01:17:35.000 They just go along with it.

01:17:36.000 I mean, the jail guard came and said, sign the document.

01:17:39.000 So I...

01:17:40.000 They walk up and say, we'll let you out.

01:17:41.000 Just bond out.

01:17:43.000 We're doing you a favor.

01:17:43.000 Sign this.

01:17:44.000 Oh, thank you, officer.

01:17:46.000 You bet.

01:17:46.000 I'm willing to help you out a little bit there.

01:17:48.000 Just go ahead and sign your rights over to me. 1.00

01:17:53.000 Oh, we're building lots of new prisons for you stupid people. 1.00

01:18:00.000 Oh, it's so good. 1.00

01:18:05.000 So it's been a learning experience for me.

01:18:09.000 And all the people that laughed at me about satellite trackers and transponders.

01:18:13.000 They say they're going in in the next two years in Austin.

01:18:15.000 You'll have to have your transponder.

01:18:18.000 It's going in all over the state.

01:18:20.000 It was in Time Magazine last week.

01:18:22.000 Big spread about Texas.

01:18:25.000 They admit it's part of NAFTA.

01:18:26.000 Oh, really?

01:18:27.000 It's part of a regional government?

01:18:29.000 Oh! 0.60

01:18:29.000 Does it matter if 98% of you are against it in Houston, 93% in Austin? 0.60

01:18:38.000 We've got the special voting machines in place.

01:18:42.000 And again, we have nice men in dark uniforms with weapons.

01:18:46.000 We'll make sure you go along with us.

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01:22:59.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:23:04.000 You know, I'm glad that Talk Show Host Jack Blood called into the show, because I...

01:23:08.000 I saw the article this morning, and I guess I just have a mental block for this type of stuff, but the former group Pantera, under a new name, very satanic death metal group, had some psychopath try to shoot him, and thank God a cop was there who was armed and took the guy out before he started shooting the crowd.

01:23:27.000 And in every other case, they're on Prozac or another drug, and they usually were under government, psychiatric, and were usually Gulf War vets, which i.e.

01:23:36.000 mind control.

01:23:37.000 Literally, whether it's Larry Ashbrook, that turned out to be mind control.

01:23:41.000 That was even in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

01:23:44.000 Shot up the Baptist Church, killed all those kids at a youth meeting.

01:23:49.000 Turned out he was buddies with Buford Furrow, the Nazi, who turned out lived at a U.S.

01:23:53.000 Air Force base and had been protected, and went and shot up the Jewish Center.

01:23:57.000 I mean, in every case, Kip Kinkle, all these guys, Harrison Kleibold, always government connections, and that's a whole other show, but yeah, goes into this death metal grip and starts blasting.

01:24:09.000 It'll either turn out he's some Christian crazy who didn't like him, or some schizophrenic who didn't like him, but I bet you money, and again, so-called Christian folks, not a real Christian, I bet you money it's a government op, but Jack, you got more details on this for us? 0.65

01:24:24.000 Yeah, Alex, thanks for having me on. 0.95

01:24:25.000 Well, last night in Columbus, Ohio, the nightclub is called Alarosa Villa on St.

01:24:30.000 Clair Road, around 10 o'clock, right as the new band from Pantera is called Damage Plan, by the way, and they're playing in this club.

01:24:38.000 It's just that they started the first song, a lunatic with a gun got on stage, and amazingly enough, a lot of the crowd thought it was part of the act, so they just kind of stood there and didn't do anything.

01:24:49.000 The gunman shot dead.

01:24:51.000 The guitar player from Pantera, who is now in this band Damage Plan, his name is Dimebag Darryl, killed him dead when a bouncer tried to stop the shooting.

01:25:00.000 He shot and killed the bouncer, also killed another.

01:25:03.000 There were three killed and four injured.

01:25:05.000 A police officer just happened to be patrolling outside, came in the back door and shot this guy as he was apparently about to start duck hunting in the crowd.

01:25:15.000 And as you say, I mean, he probably will turn out to be a Christian.

01:25:18.000 For some reason, you know, I mean, you're great at doing this.

01:25:20.000 I didn't even think about this.

01:25:21.000 I just thought, first thing I thought about is the play on words here.

01:25:25.000 Metal detectors in every club you go into from now on.

01:25:28.000 Well, the FBI has called for...

01:25:30.000 The FBI's called for every shopping mall, every business to have metal detectors on their homeland security.

01:25:35.000 So everything's going to be like the TSA with the airports.

01:25:37.000 It's going to be everywhere.

01:25:39.000 And we've been predicting this. 0.98

01:25:40.000 But no, I mean, I will guess that he's going to be either a deranged Satanist, they'll say, or he's going to be an evil Christian. 0.98

01:25:48.000 That'll be the, but go ahead.

01:25:49.000 Yeah, I mean, well, and we know how this works, and even if this wasn't planned to be problem, reaction, solution, what it is going to be, they're going to take this and run with it, and there's going to be mothers crying, we need more gun control, we need to put the assault weapons ban back into place, and this is going to result in, of course, more tyranny on the people.

01:26:08.000 You know, I don't want to overplay it, I don't want to scare people, but I know I've watched them do this over and over again, and this will be the equivalent of something like a Columbine shooting in clubs.

01:26:17.000 Well, you're never going to stop the psychopaths out there, and it was a gun that stopped this guy.

01:26:24.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

01:26:25.000 And, you know, I don't know, you know, what the details are, because they're not releasing the police officer's name.

01:26:30.000 They haven't released a lot of details.

01:26:32.000 I mean, this guy's very brave, Alex.

01:26:33.000 He got on stage.

01:26:34.000 This guy's shooting wildly, killing people.

01:26:37.000 He tackled this guy and killed him before he could do any more damage.

01:26:41.000 And minimally, he's a pretty brave guy.

01:26:44.000 Talking about the police officer?

01:26:45.000 Yeah.

01:26:46.000 Yeah, there's a lot of good cops out there.

01:26:48.000 And imagine if they'd have been in Texas with concealed carry, boy, it'da look like a... 0.50

01:26:53.000 Shoot him up in a saloon, that guy would have been blown to bits even before he got that done.

01:26:58.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't really listen to bands like Pantera. 0.99

01:27:00.000 I don't like music quite that heavy.

01:27:02.000 I have heard Pantera songs.

01:27:04.000 That is very satanic.

01:27:05.000 Yeah, it's the heaviest of all.

01:27:07.000 I want to say this.

01:27:08.000 I was researching Aleister Crowley last night.

01:27:10.000 You know, his two different children from two different wives both died.

01:27:13.000 He clearly killed them.

01:27:15.000 And just the hellish life he had.

01:27:17.000 Living for the devil, folks, isn't a very good way to live.

01:27:20.000 Well, Alistair Crowley's main mantra was, do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law.

01:27:25.000 It sounds very much like the cremation of care.

01:27:27.000 And everyone's a star.

01:27:28.000 That's where Hollywood got the term, everybody's a star.

01:27:31.000 Well, I mean, this is what society is coming to, and we look, look at Bush, you know, I mean, we've gotten the Freedom Initiative passed, we've gotten this new Patriot Act 9-11, H.R.

01:27:41.000 10 just passed, and I saw, let me tell you, I saw Bill Kristol from the Weekly Standard and Fox News last night saying he had some Uh, information he couldn't divulge, but if we knew what was going on in Syria, we would be shocked and amazed.

01:27:56.000 They're loading up to go into Syria, Alex.

01:27:58.000 I don't think it's more than a couple of months.

01:28:00.000 It's very convenient that we have Kofi Annan on the ropes right now.

01:28:03.000 But there'll have to be another convenient terror attack.

01:28:05.000 Well, I don't know.

01:28:06.000 We've got the UN on the ropes right now with this oil for food scandal.

01:28:10.000 He really can't say much.

01:28:11.000 If we want to put up another resolution, he's got to abide by the globalists right now.

01:28:15.000 And if they want to go in and take Syria, they will. 1.00

01:28:17.000 But I saw reports last night from the border of Syria.

01:28:20.000 They're claiming people are coming over there.

01:28:22.000 There's a mass exodus to kill American troops and Iraqis in Iraq.

01:28:27.000 And they've got to do something about it. 0.95

01:28:28.000 They've got to do something right now.

01:28:30.000 I predict Syria will go here just in the next couple of months. 1.00

01:28:34.000 Well, they're gonna have to have a terror attack to do it, either overseas or here.

01:28:38.000 Jack, anything else?

01:28:39.000 No, that's good.

01:28:40.000 Keep up the good work.

01:28:40.000 Carry on.

01:28:41.000 Take care, buddy.

01:28:42.000 We'll be back with your call.

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01:30:53.000 Hi folks, this is Alex Jones.

01:30:54.000 Whether you are aware or not, World War III has started.

01:30:57.000 Let me rephrase that.

01:30:58.000 Oil War III has started.

01:31:00.000 Don't kid yourself, the reason we went into Iraq is oil.

01:31:03.000 Now we are looking at the possibility of invading Iran and even Saudi Arabia.

01:31:07.000 Why else would the U.S.

01:31:07.000 be building 13 permanent military installations inside Iraq?

01:31:11.000 Does it look like we're pulling out?

01:31:12.000 The nations of the Earth are consuming oil at the rate of 83 million barrels per day and growing.

01:31:17.000 At this rate of consumption, experts predict that oil prices will only go up.

01:31:22.000 Ready Reserves prepared a free booklet explaining the world's oil supply and how it will impact you and how it will change the world forever.

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01:31:50.000 We're inside the New World Order now, ladies and gentlemen.

01:32:11.000 Thank you.

01:32:12.000 And it's only going to get more and more tyrannical by degrees.

01:32:18.000 We're about to go to your calls.

01:32:22.000 In fact, let's just go ahead and do that now.

01:32:24.000 Let's talk to Isaac.

01:32:26.000 Isaac in Missouri.

01:32:27.000 Isaac, go ahead.

01:32:29.000 Alright, am I on?

01:32:30.000 Yes, you are.

01:32:30.000 Alright.

01:32:31.000 I just had a quick comment.

01:32:32.000 I just finished reading a book.

01:32:34.000 Anybody in the teaching profession ought to read this book.

01:32:36.000 It's written by a guy named Jesse Stewart.

01:32:38.000 It's called The Thread That Runs So True.

01:32:40.000 It was first published like 1939 or something.

01:32:44.000 No, excuse me.

01:32:45.000 Yeah, somewhere in there.

01:32:47.000 This guy grew up in the hills of Kentucky, the backcountry hills.

01:32:51.000 I mean, their roads were impassable four months out of the year.

01:32:54.000 But he was a school teacher and he made it a point of paying attention and looking and learning about what worked, what didn't, and what was good and what was not.

01:33:01.000 And he got a fellowship and traveled to Europe in the neighborhood of 1940.

01:33:05.000 And here's what he had to say.

01:33:07.000 Because there was basically a corrupt political takeover of the school system in his county.

01:33:12.000 Here's what he had to say.

01:33:13.000 I'm going to read you one paragraph.

01:33:14.000 Is that okay?

01:33:15.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:33:16.000 He says, What I had seen in Europe disturbed me greatly.

01:33:19.000 Little men had risen to high places. 0.97

01:33:21.000 They had risen to positions of power and influence.

01:33:23.000 They were controlling countries.

01:33:24.000 They were torturing people they didn't like.

01:33:26.000 Man was not safe in his own home.

01:33:28.000 Constitutional law didn't mean anything.

01:33:31.000 Could this happen in America?

01:33:32.000 Could men usurp their fellow men to obtain high places of power?

01:33:35.000 Could this happen in Kentucky?

01:33:37.000 Could it happen in Greenwood County?

01:33:39.000 Could it happen here?

01:33:40.000 After I had seen Europe, I believed anything could happen anywhere to strangle the freedom of man, the right and dignity of man, unless enough freedom-loving people went to bat for the causes of right, fair play, and justice.

01:33:52.000 I mean, this is a guy from the hills of Kentucky whose parents had no education and He saw this coming, a possibility of coming, in the 1940s.

01:34:05.000 And I just want to make that comment that people have seen that this has been possible and that you do need to stand up.

01:34:10.000 What he did to help the situation in his county was he started a newspaper, because at that time it was the best way to reach people, and his life was in danger.

01:34:18.000 He was almost killed at one point by a guy attacking him who was a fired thug.

01:34:22.000 And yet, you know, he's willing to go through it to do what was best for us.

01:34:25.000 Yeah, the criminals get into control of government, want to dominate and run our lives, and we've got to stand up and say no, or it just gets worse.

01:34:31.000 Towering to them only makes the tyranny worse.

01:34:34.000 Thanks for the call.

01:34:36.000 I appreciate it.

01:34:36.000 And we're going to go to Debbie Morrow here, then we'll go to Charles and Steve and David and John and others.

01:34:42.000 Debbie Morrow, New Millennium Concepts, one area we can take control of our lives.

01:34:47.000 Is by not drinking the water full of herbicides, pesticides, heavy metals, and all these other horrible chemicals and dead bacteria.

01:34:54.000 And all filters are not equal.

01:34:56.000 This purification system made in America is preeminent. 0.99

01:35:01.000 And Debbie, good to have you on with us. 0.98

01:35:02.000 People need to take advantage of this to give this as a gift or give this as a gift to their own family.

01:35:07.000 People need to take action, Debbie.

01:35:08.000 Alex, yes they do.

01:35:11.000 Thank you for having me on the show today.

01:35:13.000 Well, thanks for coming on.

01:35:14.000 Oh, you're so welcome.

01:35:16.000 We do want to encourage people to do that, to give the holiday gifts as Berkey water filters.

01:35:24.000 See, whether they're sport Berkeys or Berkey Life, prudent places, CD-ROMs, potassium iodate, because we do want to encourage people to give a gift of good health, as opposed to just, you know, going out and buying just the regular stuff you buy at Wally World or somewhere.

01:35:43.000 So I did want to take the opportunity throughout this month to come on your show and tell people about the Christmas specials that we have.

01:35:51.000 Yeah, and one of those is five sports bottles that do over 600 refills a piece.

01:35:56.000 These little, look like a sports bottle, but purifies the water.

01:36:00.000 You can do 600 plus refills of tap water, cutting out all the garbage.

01:36:06.000 130 refills of lake or creek or pond or puddle water for emergency situations.

01:36:11.000 A great stocking stuffer.

01:36:13.000 And take it to work, take it to restaurants. 0.82

01:36:15.000 I mean, stop drinking the water, folks. 0.99

01:36:17.000 It's full of so much garbage.

01:36:19.000 This is where we get so much of the heavy metal loads in our bodies. 0.94

01:36:23.000 You can also get, what, 12 of them for how much?

01:36:28.000 12 for $199.

01:36:30.000 And by the way, similar filters are $35 at the sporting goods stores, and the elements are much smaller.

01:36:38.000 The Berkey one has a huge element in it, but about 2-3 inches thick instead of a half inch thick.

01:36:44.000 It really purifies the water.

01:36:47.000 When you drink it, folks, you need to take advantage of that special and give it to everybody in your family.

01:36:52.000 You can also, instead of getting 5 or 12, you can get 2 potassium iodates.

01:36:58.000 And you know, three sports bottles.

01:37:00.000 You can mix and match that.

01:37:02.000 You've also got the Prudent Places CD with 500 full-color maps and demographics and things for the whole country.

01:37:09.000 An incredible thing for survival.

01:37:11.000 You also have the Sheltering in Place DVD or VHS by a U.S.

01:37:14.000 government specialist in how to turn your home into a chemical or biological or radiological safe house.

01:37:22.000 Not just Ridge.

01:37:22.000 Go and get some duct tape.

01:37:24.000 You've got $1.99 for the black Berkey system that does tens of thousands of gallons and cuts everything out without the lights.

01:37:34.000 If you want it with the lights that burn for 14 years continuously, it's $2.59.

01:37:38.000 That comes with how many free gifts?

01:37:41.000 The Berkey light with the lights comes with two free gifts, and without the lights comes with one free gift.

01:37:47.000 And if they buy multiple Berkey lights for holiday gifts, Then we up the number of free items.

01:37:56.000 And folks, a cheap Indian knockoff from India is $250, $200 if you're lucky, at a sporting goods store or at a camping supply store.

01:38:07.000 These are made in America, many times stronger for the same price.

01:38:13.000 Please take advantage of these Gravity Fed filters.

01:38:16.000 Give Debbie a call. 0.97

01:38:19.000 And if you already have this system, give a system as a gift.

01:38:22.000 Debbie, I've ordered quite a few of these over the years from you to give as gifts.

01:38:26.000 Yes, you have.

01:38:27.000 And so have many of our customers.

01:38:29.000 You know, we have Terry out there and Charles and different people who call in and they are doing that, giving them as holiday gifts.

01:38:37.000 Debbie, what if I want the British Berkey made in England with the stainless steel body?

01:38:42.000 What if I want that?

01:38:43.000 We do have those available.

01:38:45.000 They're $279 and they come with the older four filter ceramic.

01:38:50.000 And you do get two Berkey sport bottles with it.

01:38:54.000 And they are a very good system too.

01:38:56.000 We certainly don't want anybody to think that they're not a great system also.

01:39:01.000 It's just that the new Black Berkey purification elements that work with the new Berkey Light are even more powerful.

01:39:09.000 You have major universities, you've got a lot of material.

01:39:12.000 Right.

01:39:13.000 A big university down in Louisiana said it had set a new standard with an electron microscope.

01:39:17.000 It is undetectable.

01:39:19.000 That means to below detectable levels they can find nothing.

01:39:22.000 They put water through it that's full of bacteria at yard growth level.

01:39:26.000 Literally green water is poured into it.

01:39:29.000 Literally swamp water is poured into it.

01:39:31.000 And then they take the water out, put it in another dish, Try to grow stuff for a week, put an electron microscope over it, and there is nothing in it!

01:39:41.000 The electron microscope can find nothing!

01:39:45.000 Give Debbie a call, 1-888-803-4438.

01:39:50.000 If the phone's busy, leave your name and number.

01:39:52.000 She'll call you right back, 888-803-4438.

01:39:56.000 Or just go to berkeywater.com and tell them what free gift you want in the Alex Jones special.

01:40:01.000 There are what free gifts you want there in the comment section, 888-803-4438.

01:40:07.000 Debbie, thanks for coming on.

01:40:08.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:40:09.000 And I do want to let everyone know that I will be working on Fridays until the holidays are over.

01:40:15.000 Because normally our recorder says that we're closed on Fridays.

01:40:18.000 But I will be here to take orders.

01:40:20.000 And also...

01:40:23.000 We want to try and get the orders in as soon as possible so we be sure to get them shipped and received before Christmas.

01:40:29.000 And you ship those by UPS?

01:40:31.000 Yep, normally.

01:40:33.000 Unless you've got a P.O.

01:40:33.000 box, then that's the other thing.

01:40:35.000 Yeah, and we just appreciate all of your listeners and all of this goes to help support your airtime, so please call.

01:40:43.000 That's right, thanks Debbie.

01:40:44.000 That's right, our global shortwave outreach that is upwards of, I don't know, $9,000 a month on two transmitters, six hours a day, Going out internationally, and we do this as an outreach, and they're the big sponsor.

01:40:58.000 And they just do a great job.

01:41:00.000 Okay, let's go ahead now and go back to the calls.

01:41:05.000 I guess up next here is Steve in California.

01:41:08.000 Steve, go ahead.

01:41:09.000 Hello from the California fatherland, Alex.

01:41:12.000 Home of your groping Fuhrer. 0.94

01:41:14.000 My groping Fuhrer out there. 0.98

01:41:16.000 I want to be a dictator.

01:41:17.000 Yes, and I think since they already spelled California with a K in German, I heard Arnie's gonna finally go ahead and just change the name of the state, too.

01:41:27.000 He wants to get a law on the books so that they can spell California with three Ks.

01:41:30.000 Who knows?

01:41:32.000 But for now, I just wanted to ask you really quick about two great books.

01:41:35.000 One of them is Bin Laden, the man who declared war on America. 0.99

01:41:38.000 I read that.

01:41:39.000 Yusef Berdanski is the author?

01:41:41.000 Yes.

01:41:42.000 I heard just recently that on NPR, the book's been disappearing after FBI visits the library.

01:41:50.000 Boy, they're sure scared of that.

01:41:51.000 They're scared of the films, they're scared of all of it.

01:41:53.000 Tell folks what's in the book that's upset them so much.

01:41:56.000 Well, you know, I could think that their argument is probably to say that it's a terrorist training manual or something crazy like that, when in fact it's really a historical account of terrorist activity up to about 1999.

01:42:07.000 It was originally written in 1999 and later reprinted in 2001.

01:42:12.000 Well, I think it's good to burn books.

01:42:13.000 That's freedom.

01:42:15.000 We can't have books talking about Bin Laden being CIA.

01:42:18.000 You can't have that.

01:42:19.000 And, you know, it reveals so much connectivity from these networks.

01:42:26.000 It points exactly where you're pointing.

01:42:29.000 Well, we can't have that.

01:42:31.000 I don't think it's a terrorist training manual by any means.

01:42:34.000 Another book I wanted to ask really quick about was Dr. Judith Biller's book simply titled Germs.

01:42:41.000 I don't know if you ever read that.

01:42:43.000 No, I've read reports about it.

01:42:46.000 Well, she was previously in cahoots with David Kaye prior to World War II.

01:42:49.000 Yeah, and they're saying we've got to have model states and forced inoculations and it's got to happen.

01:42:54.000 Well, you know, what I'm trying to say here is that she was previously in cahoots with David Kaye prior to the war in order to, you know, promote the war.

01:43:02.000 And then later, I've heard, at least a few months ago, that she was arrested.

01:43:09.000 Really?

01:43:09.000 I think her name rings a bell.

01:43:11.000 I remember reading articles about her fear-mongering in the New York Times, right?

01:43:15.000 Well, and David Kaye finally kind of went the more righteous path.

01:43:18.000 He resigned and then started to reveal a lot of things.

01:43:21.000 I don't know how much of that is true.

01:43:23.000 But why did you hear she was arrested?

01:43:25.000 Well, I just think she started to go the same way as David Kaye and then it was not up to the approval of the current administration.

01:43:34.000 And that was that other U.N.

01:43:35.000 inspector that had been blowing the whistle.

01:43:36.000 He got arrested too.

01:43:38.000 Really, I have no idea.

01:43:40.000 Perhaps she's going to magically commit suicide just like the British intelligence operative that died and left his wife and child, his daughter behind. 0.84

01:43:47.000 Dr. David Kelly that said they're going to kill me in the woods. 0.97

01:43:51.000 Or maybe Diana saying they're going to kill me in a fake auto accident. 0.98

01:43:54.000 They told me they're going to kill me. 1.00

01:43:56.000 He hates himself so much that he needs to leave his daughter behind without a father. 0.99

01:43:59.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:00.000 That's just crazy. 0.99

01:44:01.000 And says they're going to kill me.

01:44:03.000 So either way, I'll try to look into Judith Miller.

01:44:06.000 I thought maybe you would know something about that.

01:44:07.000 Again, the Yousef Brodansky book is very good if you can get your listeners to maybe check it out when they can.

01:44:14.000 I can't believe... Zawahiri keeps coming up.

01:44:16.000 I'm not sure if it's the same guy, but in 95 there was an assassination plot in Addis Ababa, you know, in Ethiopia.

01:44:23.000 They tried to kill Mubarak.

01:44:25.000 And the fascination attempt failed, and Zawahiri was one of the key operatives in that.

01:44:25.000 Thanks Alex.

01:44:29.000 Now, I'm not sure if that's the exact same Zawahiri that we keep hearing about.

01:44:32.000 The guy that's been killed five times?

01:44:34.000 It could have been how he busted his chops in order to get the big gig, you know what I mean?

01:44:38.000 Yeah, I appreciate the call.

01:44:40.000 Very interesting points, and I'm aware of some of what you said.

01:44:43.000 I'm not aware of some of the other points.

01:44:44.000 Let's talk to Charles in Arizona.

01:44:48.000 Charles, go ahead.

01:44:49.000 Thanks, Dallas.

01:44:50.000 Thanks for having me on your show.

01:44:51.000 Sure.

01:44:52.000 Cool.

01:44:52.000 I just wanted to say, I know you had Debbie from the Millennium Concepts, and I wanted to say that one of the Borky Sport Bottles saved my life.

01:45:00.000 I was backpacking in Utah, and I suffered multiple scorpion stings in a canyon, and the only water was just stagnant, paddle-ranching property water, and if I wouldn't have had that water bottle, I would have certainly, you know, gotten Giardia.

01:45:13.000 Never made it out of there, so... Really?

01:45:15.000 I mean, how did it save your life?

01:45:16.000 I mean, what, were you stuck there?

01:45:18.000 I was backpacking, looking for Indian artifacts and things like that.

01:45:18.000 Yeah, I was stuck.

01:45:24.000 I was in this canyon, and I was stung three or four times in my leg.

01:45:28.000 How did you get stung?

01:45:30.000 I was sleeping in my sleeping... not even a sleeping bag, just a blanket.

01:45:34.000 And I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

01:45:37.000 What, were you sleeping in a shallow depression or cave?

01:45:40.000 Yeah, just...

01:45:42.000 A small overhang in the side of a canyon.

01:45:44.000 Oh yeah, a scorpion nest.

01:45:45.000 Oh, they love it.

01:45:46.000 So yeah, and this is all cattle ranching property.

01:45:48.000 On top of scorpions?

01:45:50.000 I'm pretty sure they were the giant hairy scorpions.

01:45:54.000 Really?

01:45:54.000 The larger variety.

01:45:55.000 Not as dangerous as the bark scorpions, but I was extremely sick.

01:45:59.000 I had run out of water and I had that water bottle and the only water there was It's all cattle ranching site.

01:46:05.000 You know, it's full of Giardia. 0.99

01:46:07.000 So what, you got so sick you had to stay there?

01:46:09.000 Yeah, I couldn't move.

01:46:10.000 I mean, my leg was swollen.

01:46:12.000 I was completely immobilized.

01:46:13.000 Didn't have a radio.

01:46:14.000 Probably not that smart, but I mean, those things work.

01:46:18.000 I mean, they're amazing.

01:46:18.000 Well, did you find any artifacts?

01:46:21.000 Yeah, well, I found a few, you know, cave dwellings and just some really interesting pottery and granaries.

01:46:27.000 Where were you?

01:46:28.000 I was in the Manti-LaSalle National Forest.

01:46:31.000 To the southeast corner of Utah near the Canyonlands National Park.

01:46:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:35.000 Home of the Anasazis, and you know, you go into these caves and you see... You can find mummies in there!

01:46:40.000 You know, I've never found mummies.

01:46:42.000 I've found bones, I've found jaw fragments and things like that.

01:46:45.000 I know, but that's one of the areas they find the mummies, right?

01:46:48.000 It's pretty creepy.

01:46:49.000 I mean, you get a pretty eerie feeling when you're hiking around back there.

01:46:52.000 Before I get emails, yes, Native Americans, a lot of them, mummified, chiefs and witch doctors, and yes, Utah, they find mummies all the time. 0.65

01:47:00.000 Well, it's amazing because the whole civilization just had a mass accident.

01:47:03.000 Nobody really knows where they went.

01:47:05.000 And they just left everything behind.

01:47:08.000 But that's interesting.

01:47:09.000 Well, I wanted to call.

01:47:10.000 I'm from Arizona, and I've always noticed on my driver's license, my driver's license doesn't expire until 2067.

01:47:18.000 I don't know if it's that situation in Texas, but I never have to show proof of my citizenship.

01:47:23.000 No, they expire every four years here in Texas.

01:47:26.000 Some of them are staggered, and most other states are like that.

01:47:30.000 Well, if you're an illegal alien, you don't have to do anything under the Homeland Security Bill.

01:47:33.000 It's all written for just you.

01:47:35.000 I mean, is this national ID card ever going to require people down here to show proof of their citizenship?

01:47:41.000 Yeah, I guess Arizona was one of the few states that hadn't.

01:47:44.000 All the other states to get federal money have been going along with a biometric identifier on it.

01:47:49.000 And thanks for the call.

01:47:51.000 I'm glad you raised these points because I was getting tasked last night at the Diamond Shamrock.

01:47:58.000 And I walked in, and the guy behind the counter likes the show.

01:48:01.000 He's a fan, good guy.

01:48:03.000 There's a woman up there, looks like she's about 35, buying a 12-pack of Bud Light.

01:48:10.000 And he just gets her ID card and swipes it.

01:48:14.000 And she leaves, and I go, why'd you swipe her card?

01:48:16.000 And he goes, oh, it's a new rule.

01:48:18.000 Doesn't matter how old you look, we've been told, you know, you look like you're under a certain age, but he goes, we've been told it's soon going to be everybody.

01:48:24.000 Doesn't matter, and I've seen them, like an old lady's buying beer or cigarettes. 1.00

01:48:27.000 Literally, I've seen like a 75-year-old woman be carded.

01:48:30.000 But now they swipe the card, whether it's Walgreens, or Racetrack, or, you know, gas stations, drugstores.

01:48:39.000 Whether it's just any of these, they swipe your cards, and these computer systems are going in.

01:48:44.000 And he said, yeah, look at it.

01:48:46.000 And he showed me the system.

01:48:47.000 I already knew about it, but I never really even looked at it.

01:48:49.000 I didn't know they were doing it.

01:48:50.000 And he said, when I swipe your card with that strip, it shows me if you've got warrants out.

01:48:55.000 It shows me if the card's good.

01:48:58.000 And he said, we've basically been told in the future that if it shows you've got a warrant, we go ahead and call the police on you.

01:49:04.000 And so here's this 35-year-old woman. 1.00

01:49:07.000 I mean, probably even older.

01:49:09.000 I mean, didn't look like a... I mean, no way you could have thought she was under 30. 0.79

01:49:14.000 And they caught her.

01:49:16.000 And, uh... I've been in line and seen people buying nicotine patches.

01:49:21.000 I saw, like, a 40-year-old man buying some a few months ago, and they swiped his card for that.

01:49:27.000 Well, that's the public plan.

01:49:28.000 It's for the sales tax.

01:49:31.000 They're going to swipe that card with the strip on the back and the biometrics on the front everywhere you go to assess the sales tax, because it's going to be graduated, depending on how much money you make.

01:49:42.000 And, uh, I told you that's going to be the world.

01:49:44.000 You know, there's an APB on for you.

01:49:46.000 You know, you can't buy or sell without it.

01:49:48.000 We're only a few years away from that.

01:49:51.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:59.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:53:03.000 We got the owner of the Brad Vlog coming on in the next hour who broke the news of the affidavit of this programmer who claims they wanted to pay him to create a fraudulent system to steal votes.

01:53:16.000 We got engineers quit die-bolding others and say the system's a fraud.

01:53:20.000 This guy's separate though.

01:53:22.000 And we'll be discussing it.

01:53:24.000 That's coming up here in just a few minutes.

01:53:27.000 Right now, let's go ahead and take some calls.

01:53:31.000 Go back to those.

01:53:32.000 Let's talk to David in California.

01:53:35.000 Hey, greetings, Alex.

01:53:35.000 David, go ahead.

01:53:37.000 Yes. 0.95

01:53:38.000 You know, I heard you talking about the religious right and how they, you know, in some cases they're honest people and in some cases they're suckers and in some cases they're That's part of the problem, you know, false prophets, so to speak. 0.89

01:53:50.000 Well, it's a diverse crowd.

01:53:51.000 I mean, I was talking to one of my friends, who's an anti-abortion activist, a good friend of mine over the years, and I just said, what about all these appointees who are for pro-abortion?

01:54:02.000 He's just like, it's not true.

01:54:03.000 And I'm like, they admitted it!

01:54:05.000 It's like, they're in denial!

01:54:05.000 What do you mean?

01:54:08.000 But go ahead.

01:54:09.000 Well, it's funny.

01:54:11.000 I was lucky enough once, five years ago, to go to Egypt.

01:54:17.000 Out in Egypt, a predominantly Muslim country, although I think that's the country that gets the single largest amount of foreign aid from America in Africa, in the whole continent of Africa.

01:54:29.000 It's a country that's got submachine guns about every 50 feet down the street.

01:54:36.000 They've drafted everybody.

01:54:37.000 I think they pay them like $11 a month to be drafted.

01:54:42.000 Pretty awful situation because of the poverty.

01:54:45.000 Huge amount of foreign aid in terms of military.

01:54:49.000 Yeah, 30 million or 25 million people in Cairo, yeah.

01:54:52.000 Yeah, and people actually get nothing.

01:54:54.000 Well, so the country, you know, it's teeming with taxi cabs and, you know, it's so vibrant.

01:55:00.000 Downtown Cairo is very vibrant, very polluted.

01:55:03.000 But because it's a Muslim country, officially they don't believe in insurance. 0.99

01:55:08.000 And it's really interesting, you know, A drive to the pyramids, when we first got into town, it's like a certain amount of miles out of town, we drove down, you know, a busy main drag thoroughfare, two lanes each direction, and there was like maybe two stop signs for five miles.

01:55:27.000 There were no stoplights virtually in the whole city.

01:55:30.000 And in terms, they don't, because it's a Muslim country, Orthodox Muslims especially, don't believe in insurance.

01:55:38.000 Everything is the will of God.

01:55:40.000 Now, because of that, if you're trying to cross the street out there and you get hit by a car, you're in deep trouble.

01:55:47.000 There's no such thing as an insurance policy, because everything is the will of God.

01:55:52.000 They don't put stop signs for five miles out to the pyramid.

01:55:56.000 And everybody is at the will of the traffic congestion to try to get across the street.

01:56:02.000 Okay, but get to your point.

01:56:03.000 Well, in terms of the religious theocracy as it meets corporate statism, you know, the corporate state loves it.

01:56:12.000 You know, because they're able to charge a high dollar for gasoline, the car industry makes plenty of dough, but nobody has to pay insurance.

01:56:19.000 And these people are being polluted to death.

01:56:21.000 I mean, there's no lead Well, it's in terms of the religious con.

01:56:25.000 It's really easy.

01:56:26.000 I think I talked to you once about Jubilee.

01:56:29.000 I mean, everything is falling apart.

01:56:30.000 So how does that tie into...

01:56:33.000 Well, in terms of the religious con, it's really easy.

01:56:39.000 I think I talked to you once about Jubilee.

01:56:41.000 I really believe that Jubilee is the solution for the 911 because we've got a horrible economy.

01:56:47.000 We've got the world's religions.

01:56:49.000 Officially, the Jews and Muslims and Christians all believe in the same God.

01:56:53.000 And they all believe in Moses, and Moses says we should do a Jubilee.

01:56:57.000 But I don't really think it's the same God.

01:57:00.000 Oh, well, it clearly is.

01:57:01.000 It's family Abraham and family of David.

01:57:03.000 Well, maybe there, but that's not where it ends.

01:57:06.000 Well, I mean, it's, you know, the...

01:57:09.000 Jews don't believe that the Messiah ever showed up.

01:57:12.000 The Christians believe he showed up once in Jesus, and they're waiting for the second coming. 0.99

01:57:16.000 The Moslems believe that Jesus was the first coming, but they believe that Muhammad was the second coming. 0.99

01:57:22.000 Sir, I'm out of time.

01:57:23.000 Gave you five minutes.

01:57:24.000 Appreciate the call.

01:57:26.000 Uh, interesting.

01:57:26.000 I, uh, throw a rat there.

01:57:29.000 Uh, we'll come back with the third hour, with our guest, and more calls, and a ton of other vital news items.

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01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 All right, folks.

01:58:09.000 We know that Diebold engineers have quit and set the systems wide open to fraud.

01:58:13.000 We know that we've caught Diebold with convicted felons as vice presidents running California elections.

01:58:19.000 We know the other big companies have been caught with electronic wireless systems changing votes in the middle of elections.

01:58:26.000 We know this is going on.

01:58:29.000 And we know the media predominantly, the dominant media, has ignored it.

01:58:36.000 And then, a couple days ago, last week, it came out that a programmer detailed what led him to file a vote-rigging affidavit.

01:58:48.000 And he says he doesn't want the $200,000 reward of the Justice Department office for this type of stuff.

01:58:55.000 He just wants to get that out to folks.

01:58:59.000 It first got posted on a popular blog after he'd gone to the FBI and CIA and Congress and nothing was done at bradfriedman.com.

01:59:10.000 And we've got Brad Friedman on who broke this story.

01:59:13.000 Brad Friedman, of course, is an actor of stage and screen.

01:59:19.000 Brad, good to have you on with us.

01:59:21.000 Hi, how are you, Alex?

01:59:22.000 Pretty good.

01:59:24.000 Just in a nutshell, we're about to break Tell folks what basically is being alleged by the gentleman who you reported on.

01:59:33.000 Well, Clint Curtis is essentially alleging that he worked with a company in Florida, Yang Enterprises, back in 2000, and at the time, Florida Congressman Tom Feeney, who is now a U.S.

01:59:47.000 Congressman, he was at the time a Florida Congressman, Had come into the office there.

01:59:53.000 Mr. Feeney was apparently a corporate attorney and registered lobbyist for this company while he was in the Florida House and then would become the Speaker of the Florida House.

02:00:07.000 So he had brought various projects to Yang and one that he had brought that has caused all the alarm here He has come in and asked, apparently, according to Curtis, if they would be able to create a vote-rigging software prototype.

02:00:29.000 Now, this is what Mr. Curtis alleges, and he's created a sworn affidavit on the matter, which of course I've seen and have released with my original story on it.

02:00:46.000 And it's a pretty startling allegation, of course.

02:00:51.000 But what makes it even more startling is the fact that while this particular allegation, for the moment, I should add, is somewhat short on actual hard evidence, all of the other claims that he also made, and there's sort of a three or four year paper trail on Mr. Curtis, have so far come to pass.

02:01:11.000 He alleged that there was Spying going on and documents and databases were being sent to China from Yang.

02:01:20.000 Wiretapping code was added to software that they were creating for NASA and other companies, Florida Department of Transportation and so forth.

02:01:30.000 All of those things have checked out, pretty much 100%, including a fella who he was a whistleblower on.

02:01:40.000 Who has been taken in on espionage charges for sending chips to Communist China.

02:01:48.000 As recently as, I believe, it was March of this year.

02:01:51.000 Yeah, there's been mainstream media reports about some of this as well, and this Yang Enterprises.

02:01:57.000 Right.

02:01:58.000 And the question is, you know, why is the gentleman you're reporting on going public now?

02:02:02.000 Well, it looks like in the past he's been trying to do this through channels.

02:02:05.000 Right.

02:02:05.000 And it's had some effect, and now he's alleging this.

02:02:08.000 I want to break, I want to come back, Mr. Friedman, and kind of go through a blow-by-blow of this.

02:02:15.000 And obviously where there's smoke, there's fire.

02:02:18.000 We've seen plenty of other confirmed cases of election fraud going on by the electronic voting machine companies.

02:02:23.000 This one is new, and so I want to cover that with you after this quick break.

02:02:27.000 I want to thank you for joining us as well.

02:02:29.000 The website to look at the coverage of this is bradfriedman.com.

02:02:32.000 We have links to it via infowars.com.

02:02:35.000 We'll be back on the other side of this quick break, so please stay with us.

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02:05:57.000 Alright ladies and gentlemen, we're here talking to Brad Friedman.

02:06:02.000 And his website originally broke the story that now has just proliferated all over the web and even into the mainstream media.

02:06:11.000 concerning a gentleman who has blown the whistle on some other activities that have resulted in indictments.

02:06:18.000 But, again, try to explain this to people.

02:06:21.000 Give us the chronology of who this individual is, the things he's done, how long he's been alleging this, and what's developed.

02:06:28.000 Sure.

02:06:29.000 Well, Clint Curtis, who has told me, in any case, that at the time that this happened, he was a lifelong Republican,

02:06:37.000 uh... back in two thousand uh... was working at the software company uh... where uh... congressman any was a uh... corporate attorney and uh... registered lobbyist while he was a congressman in the uh... florida house uh... and then he became a speaker of the house down there and now uh... by my understanding is that uh...

02:07:00.000 There was at the time, I think, of 160 members of the Florida House, Mr. Feeney was the only registered lobbyist.

02:07:07.000 And Yang had quite a few important contracts with the state, with the Florida Department of Transportation, and with other big groups like NASA and so forth.

02:07:18.000 And so he, while working with Yang, had come in.

02:07:22.000 Mr. Curtis alleges, in any case, that he would come in and that there was Dozens of meetings that Mr. Curtis was present when Mr. Feeney was there.

02:07:35.000 And at one of these meetings, he had asked about if they could create a prototype for vote-rigging software.

02:07:43.000 And again, and my apologies for adding that it's alleged and Mr. Curtis claims and so forth because I'm trying to be very careful right now.

02:07:53.000 This is obviously turning into a rather large story.

02:07:58.000 I think we all need to be careful about this one.

02:08:02.000 So he alleges that he was asked to create such a program and it had specific requirements that Mr. Feeney had requested.

02:08:13.000 The program had to be touch screen capable.

02:08:18.000 One had to be able to use it without any external devices like a keyboard and so forth.

02:08:25.000 You couldn't have that anything to to the voting machines or the tabulating machines, because these could also be used on tabulating machines, I'm told.

02:08:35.000 And then finally, and this is really the most interesting aspect here, is that the code for rigging the vote had to be disguised or hidden or otherwise invisible inside the source code, so that if somebody examined the source code, they couldn't see that there was a code in there that would flip The vote.

02:08:59.000 And this is a very important point, because this is where Mr. Curtis at the time, who felt, who, his understanding, he claimed, was that Mr. Feeney was concerned that the Democrats would do this, and he wanted to know what it is that they, you know, that they should look out for, that they were going to try to catch the Democrats if they tried to do that.

02:09:16.000 So, uh, the code had to be invisible in the source code, and Mr. Curtis said, well, that is impossible.

02:09:22.000 You can't hide Can't hide these routines.

02:09:26.000 If anybody examines the uncompiled source code, they will see the code that is written to rig the vote.

02:09:36.000 And nonetheless, he was ordered by his boss, Mrs. Yang, who was in the meeting, to go ahead and make the software anyway.

02:09:45.000 And he made a very simple program.

02:09:46.000 It was a prototype.

02:09:48.000 I don't believe it was meant to be used in any actual machine, DBOLD or ES&S or any of these other guys.

02:09:56.000 This was a prototype for how it might be done.

02:10:00.000 He came back, delivered it the next day, he claims, to his boss, Mrs. Yang.

02:10:04.000 Gave it to her on CD.

02:10:05.000 It was a very simple program, easy to write.

02:10:08.000 Gave her the CD, gave her some documentation on how it would be used.

02:10:13.000 And then again, he stressed that I wasn't able to hide the code.

02:10:20.000 It can't be hidden if anybody can look at the source code.

02:10:23.000 At that time, apparently, she said to him, we have to hide the source code.

02:10:28.000 You don't understand.

02:10:29.000 If we don't hide the code, we won't get the contract.

02:10:33.000 This is to rig the boats in South Florida.

02:10:37.000 To rig the election.

02:10:39.000 That's what he quotes her now, as having said, he has quoted her in a sworn affidavit.

02:10:45.000 And this has been delivered to Congress.

02:10:46.000 Now give us the time frame here, then before he goes public, he goes to Congress, he goes to the FBI, he makes the rounds.

02:10:54.000 Well, yeah, he'd been, as he told me, in truth he didn't think much of the election stuff, the election rigging software back when it happened in 2000, which is why he hadn't spoken a lot about it Until more recently, because he was more concerned.

02:11:12.000 He was seeing databases being shipped up and information shipped up and sent out to China to Mrs. Yang's brother, he alleges, and he alleges that Mrs. Yang told him that his brother was a spy and was deported for being a spy.

02:11:32.000 He was more concerned with all that espionage stuff that he was seeing He didn't think much of the election stuff because he felt that it was impossible.

02:11:39.000 You couldn't hide it because people would see the source code, they would see it, and it would never be done.

02:11:45.000 Well, the companies just claim it's proprietary and don't let anybody look at it.

02:11:49.000 Well, that's what happened.

02:11:50.000 Later on, and I believe it was sometime this summer, he claims that he's not a real political guy, not a news junkie, so he doesn't follow this stuff.

02:12:01.000 But he caught something, I think he said on CNN, and I don't have my notes in front of me, so I'm working from memory here, but he claimed that he, you know, heard a story on CNN that the source code for these voting machines was proprietary, and that nobody was able to look at the pre-compiled source code, and he sort of sat up and said, oh my god, that's how they're going to do it.

02:12:22.000 That's how they're doing it.

02:12:25.000 And he never imagined that Uh, the states would buy voting machines.

02:12:31.000 And then have a contract where they can't look at the code.

02:12:34.000 No, they can't look at the software code.

02:12:35.000 And all of that is admitted.

02:12:36.000 That is the case.

02:12:37.000 That's the whole crux of it.

02:12:38.000 Earlier when I mentioned Diebold and others, they're separate.

02:12:41.000 I was talking about admissions where they have convicted felons running things for them.

02:12:45.000 Admissions where their engineers quit and say this system is easily controlled.

02:12:49.000 Admissions where other big companies are found with wireless transceivers in them.

02:12:54.000 All of that's on the record.

02:12:55.000 You know, counties where more people vote than live in the county.

02:12:59.000 You know, just hundreds of examples of this that have been covered.

02:13:03.000 He then, when he sees this this summer, he goes to the government.

02:13:06.000 Tell us about that.

02:13:07.000 Well, uh, he's been trying, uh, he's been, he was sending email to, uh, uh, CIA, uh, or to FBI, uh, I think CIA, uh, Florida law, law enforcement officials and so forth.

02:13:19.000 Uh, he received back a note in, uh, November from one of them saying that, uh, uh, you know, Mr. Curtis, this is, uh, and I've seen this email, uh, Mr. Curtis, the, uh, There is a case currently against Yang that is being investigated by the FBI.

02:13:35.000 Give me your phone number and address and I'll put you in touch with them.

02:13:39.000 Above and beyond that, and he's had a great deal of experience, unfortunately, it seems, over the past three years dealing with some of these organizations, And it seems that he wasn't confident that they would truly investigate the situation.

02:13:54.000 And I can talk a little bit more about that and why he might feel that way.

02:13:57.000 And this has also been delivered to the House Judiciary Committee.

02:14:01.000 That's correct.

02:14:01.000 Yeah, when I heard about it and I started looking into it.

02:14:03.000 But Tom Feeney is involved with that committee too now.

02:14:06.000 Yes, he is.

02:14:07.000 He's not in Florida anymore.

02:14:08.000 He's moved up.

02:14:10.000 And he was also, I should note here, Jeb Bush's running mate back in 1994 for Jeb's Initial run for Governor.

02:14:10.000 Yes, he has.

02:14:20.000 What does Tom Feeney say about all this?

02:14:24.000 Tom Feeney has been curiously quiet.

02:14:28.000 He has made some comments I understand to some of the mainstream organizations that are looking into this.

02:14:36.000 He has pointed out that Yang currently has a suit against Mr. Curtis.

02:14:44.000 And another plaintiff and now the Florida Department of Transportation claiming intellectual property theft.

02:14:52.000 So they're saying because he went public about stuff that were leased company secrets.

02:14:58.000 The Yang case? 0.97

02:14:59.000 Against him?

02:15:00.000 Yeah, they're going after him for non-disclosure acts.

02:15:02.000 Correct, yeah.

02:15:03.000 I mean, and the problem with that case... So they're not going after him saying this stuff isn't true, they're saying we're going after you because of non-disclosure.

02:15:12.000 From what I'm hearing, and it's all right now off the record, that they're trying to paint him as a liar, as a disgruntled employee.

02:15:19.000 Now the problem was, he's not a disgruntled employee as far as I can tell.

02:15:22.000 He resigned from Yang in effective December 2000 and didn't end up leaving the company because they couldn't find anybody to replace him, so he stayed on until February or March of the next year.

02:15:35.000 He just seems to be a very nice guy that way.

02:15:41.000 Well, it's funny, you know, again, we're just looking at this case, we don't know what the truth is, but we know in other cases stuff like this has happened, has been confirmed, it doesn't really get any attention.

02:15:51.000 In this case, we've got evidence that the Bush people put out the fake documents out of Texas, leaked those to a source who then leaked them again, Believe me, I have been quite aware of that and that probability.

02:15:51.000 Right.

02:16:02.000 white records, clearly he was AWOL, but then by bringing this out, then they discredit the whole thing.

02:16:08.000 You do have to watch stuff like that. - Oh, believe me, believe me, I have been quite aware of that and that probability.

02:16:16.000 There's a difference here in this case, however.

02:16:20.000 This gentleman is willing to go public.

02:16:22.000 Yeah, I'm not saying any of that's going on.

02:16:25.000 Some people are criticizing and saying this, but this story matches what we've seen in a bunch of other cases.

02:16:32.000 Right, and it's a valid concern and a valid criticism, and even Mr. Curtis himself has, when I informed him, he's sort of been off the grid, if you will, for the last three days.

02:16:40.000 When I informed him about what's been going on on the internet and some of these concerns and charges, he said to me, The more people who are out there trying to debunk this story...

02:16:50.000 They'll find a long paper trail on... And he's done the signed affidavit, so he's putting his money where his mouth is.

02:16:50.000 The better.

02:16:59.000 Yeah, and he's naming names, and he's coming out in public, and he's going on broadcast media, he's talking to every interviewer, so it's a bit different.

02:17:08.000 We don't really have the same sort of shadowy, unnamed, anonymous sources and so forth on this thing.

02:17:14.000 There's a paper trail, there's a guy who's willing to put his name on the line, It would be a pretty extraordinary hoax, you know, if... Yeah, this isn't some foggy National Guard document that appeared out of a black hole.

02:17:30.000 This is somebody putting their name on the line.

02:17:33.000 And we'll talk about it more when we get back with Brad Friedman, who first wrote this story.

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02:21:54.000 Talking about Clint Curtis.

02:21:56.000 Here's some of the quotes he gave.

02:21:59.000 In a way, he says, he blames Democrats for not requiring a paper trail for Florida voters. 1.00

02:22:04.000 I can't believe the Democrats were stupid enough to allow this, he says. 0.99

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02:22:13.000 It strikes me as really odd that machines like that could even exist.

02:22:17.000 If the program were used, he says, it's probably too late to ever detect it.

02:22:21.000 If you inspect the code, you will see it, he states, once the vote is flipped.

02:22:25.000 This is what we caught him doing in 98 here in Austin.

02:22:28.000 This is what they do.

02:22:30.000 Once it flips those, the other numbers are permanently gone.

02:22:34.000 There's no receipt, there's no trace, there's no track.

02:22:37.000 And it goes on.

02:22:38.000 You could be watching the guy do it, and unless you watched his every move, you would never know he adds.

02:22:44.000 What does he hope to get out of his claims?

02:22:47.000 If the Democrats ever want to win again, they need to change, he says.

02:22:51.000 You've got to get rid of these machines and replace them with a reliable source code that could count the votes.

02:22:57.000 This way, he says, you can get a standard clean vote.

02:23:01.000 Knowing that another Florida investigator investigating the charges in Florida was found dead in what was ruled a suicide, but which he and others still have questions about, doesn't deter him.

02:23:11.000 He says safety, he claims, is less important than the story he has to get out.

02:23:16.000 Sometimes you just have to give that up, he says.

02:23:19.000 Some things are just that important.

02:23:22.000 Well, yeah, the number one cause of death is driving in your car, folks.

02:23:25.000 You still do it.

02:23:26.000 You know, you just take the risk.

02:23:30.000 Going back to the The man who broke this, Brad Friedman, and the website bradfriedman.com, and now it's all over the news, a lot of big newspapers looking at it.

02:23:38.000 There have been a lot of people killed, died mysteriously investigating stuff like this.

02:23:44.000 But it's clear they won't let us see the source code with any of these companies.

02:23:49.000 And why would our governments put up with this, Brad?

02:23:52.000 You know, I'm going to, for now, sort of stay out of why they might wish to do that.

02:24:00.000 And an attempt, really, just to stick to the facts of Curtis's story and his affidavit.

02:24:08.000 And I will leave the analysis to other folks in the matter, because it's a pretty big matter.

02:24:14.000 And if you don't mind, Alex, there's a couple of points that I want to just be crystal clear on here, if I can.

02:24:19.000 Sure!

02:24:20.000 Mr. Curtis is not alleging that he has any personal evidence that the 2004 election Yeah, what he's saying is that he was asked to create this program.

02:24:34.000 That's correct.

02:24:35.000 That's all he is saying.

02:24:36.000 And that's an important distinction.

02:24:38.000 So, whether that software was used, in fact, whether that software was given to Mr. Feeney at this time, we don't know.

02:24:45.000 We have no evidence.

02:24:46.000 Only Mrs. Yang knows, apparently, because she gave it to him.

02:24:49.000 Now, mind you, there were other people in that meeting, aside from Mr. Feeney and Mr. Curtis, And those people, those are named in his affidavit, and I discussed them in my original story on this case.

02:25:02.000 Those people have not yet spoken.

02:25:04.000 But it's very, you know, it's important that Mr. Curtis's allegations here be very, very clear.

02:25:12.000 And I think it's important to him, as far as I can tell, because, you know, he wants people to look into this, to debunk it, to debunk him, to do anything they can, you know, to determine whether this is true or false.

02:25:26.000 Another issue, if you don't mind, that I'd like to throw out there, he is also... I don't know if you're familiar, but there's a $200,000 reward out there now that's available for anyone who can give evidence that the 2004 election was in fact rigged in some way.

02:25:47.000 Now, Mr. Curtis has made it clear that he does not want that $200,000 reward.

02:25:53.000 That the information he is alleging does not even prove that.

02:25:58.000 But he has made that very clear to me.

02:26:00.000 What it shows is, if it's true, is we've got this connection with this Republican star linked back to Jeb Bush and all the rest of it.

02:26:07.000 And again, we will see in the process as this develops, That's what it means.

02:26:13.000 But bottom line, we deserve to have a record of how we voted.

02:26:17.000 We deserve to not have this software secret.

02:26:20.000 And they've caught other companies with wireless transmitters and the rest of it in them.

02:26:24.000 And we've caught other companies manipulating the vote.

02:26:26.000 I mean, this has been mainstream news.

02:26:29.000 So this is just one more case, but this time it's a programmer saying that they were asked to develop something like this.

02:26:36.000 And so, as this unfolds, we'll be watching your website and watching the other sites that are covering it.

02:26:42.000 Anything else, Brad?

02:26:43.000 Thank you.

02:26:44.000 Well, yeah, obviously there's a whole lot.

02:26:46.000 Just real, real quickly, that Yang case that they're using now to try to discredit Mr. Curtis, I should add that that's been sort of sitting there for three years and that the employees at Yang, as of now, have refused to Take any depositions in the matter.

02:26:59.000 So, if it's used to... Well, how are they going to use the Yank case to discredit Ernest?

02:27:05.000 Well, because they're saying, oh look, here's a case that says he stole software.

02:27:09.000 They don't even say there's a case.

02:27:10.000 What I've heard is that they're saying, this guy's a thief and he stole software.

02:27:14.000 And if anybody actually looks at the case, and all of that is available via public record in Seminole County, Stay there real quick!

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02:31:03.000 Right now we're talking to the gentleman who first posted the affidavit that is a public real affidavit, Brad Friedman, concerning this computer programmer who did work at this Yang Company.

02:31:15.000 The Yang Company is in trouble for other separate things, alleging that he was being tasked with producing the software, and that was back four years ago.

02:31:25.000 Just finishing up what you were trying to say before the break, Brad.

02:31:30.000 Yeah, that case has been of Yang against Mr. Curtis and another defendant who was also a whistleblower when she was at the Florida Department of Transportation, and she won her whistleblower suit in the matter because both her and Clint Curtis, who were then working at the Florida Department of Transportation, were both fired after having made their claims about Yang and some other things that were going on.

02:31:59.000 After they made those claims, Yang then filed this lawsuit.

02:32:03.000 And remember, Tom Feeney was their corporate attorney.

02:32:06.000 But that doesn't discredit anybody that you blow the whistle and the company comes after you for non-disclosure.

02:32:14.000 Well, I think it doesn't discredit anybody either, but from what I'm hearing, Mr. Feeney is now using that to try.

02:32:23.000 To discredit Curtis in saying that he stole software.

02:32:27.000 And if you look at the case, apparently the Florida Department of Transportation had contracted Yang to do some software stuff for them while Curtis was working at Yang.

02:32:40.000 Later on, Curtis was then working at the Florida Department of Transportation when he filed these whistleblower complaints.

02:32:48.000 And Yang answered back by saying, oh, they're intellectual property theft.

02:32:53.000 They're using the software that we created for them.

02:32:58.000 Problem is, under Florida law, that software is now owned by Florida Department of Transportation.

02:33:04.000 So they're able to use it any way they wish over there.

02:33:10.000 On its face, from what I've seen, again, it's all public records that people can check out, it doesn't seem to have a lot of merit.

02:33:16.000 Yeah, a red herring.

02:33:18.000 Well, we'll get to the bottom of it, and I appreciate you joining us.

02:33:21.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:33:22.000 Appreciate it.

02:33:23.000 Take care.

02:33:23.000 You bet.

02:33:24.000 This story's gotten a lot of attention, and it's one of many, and we'll try to track it and look at it and cover it.

02:33:31.000 We'll get Bev Harris on tomorrow to give us her view on it.

02:33:35.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls.

02:33:37.000 John, in Colorado, thanks for holding.

02:33:39.000 Yes, Alex.

02:33:39.000 Go ahead.

02:33:40.000 Wow.

02:33:40.000 That was fun, wasn't it?

02:33:41.000 The reason for me calling... By the way, happy holidays to your crew, yourself.

02:33:46.000 Well, thank you.

02:33:47.000 You too.

02:33:48.000 Thank you.

02:33:49.000 The reason I'm calling was to talk about the Pantera shooting, but before that, I just want to ask you something.

02:33:55.000 I apologize, but whatever happened to the guy in Arizona, that really good individual that was the Border Patrol?

02:34:03.000 I think the Governor wanted to get this guy incarcerated.

02:34:07.000 I'm having one of those moments.

02:34:09.000 It's like you ask somebody, what's your cousin's name?

02:34:11.000 And you'd know it if somebody didn't ask you.

02:34:14.000 Yeah, this fella was running a Citizen's Border Patrol.

02:34:18.000 Now there's two different people.

02:34:19.000 You're talking about the newspaper publisher of the Tombstone Tumbleweed?

02:34:22.000 Or, uh, that's Simcox, or are you talking about the other guy?

02:34:27.000 Well, I'm sorry to do this to you, I can't remember, but I remember... Yeah, I can't remember either right now, I'm sorry.

02:34:32.000 I remember he came on the show and he was kind of pleading, he was really pleading, is what he was doing, pleading, uh, that the story got out because that he had to, uh, uh, serve a warrant or something, or they didn't have a warrant, they were just going to come get him, I think was the deal.

02:34:46.000 They actually didn't even have a warrant.

02:34:48.000 Yeah, that's not the Tombstone Tumbleweed.

02:34:50.000 I'm having trouble placing the names right now.

02:34:50.000 That's the other guy.

02:34:53.000 Do you remember whatever happened to that guy?

02:34:55.000 Is he still in prison?

02:34:56.000 No, I don't.

02:34:57.000 Okay, I'm sorry to do that to you.

02:34:59.000 No, it's okay.

02:35:00.000 I mean, I just... I'm a little bit under the weather, too.

02:35:03.000 My brain's not at 100%.

02:35:05.000 The names will pop in my head in a second.

02:35:07.000 Well, I kind of shifted gears on you.

02:35:09.000 And after that, the guest that you had on, that was very incredible.

02:35:14.000 Back to the Pantera deal.

02:35:16.000 Uh, it was just a week ago I was talking to my girlfriend about, uh, we were getting into the Patriot Act and we were talking about, uh, a checkpoint, why to have them, why not to have them.

02:35:27.000 And she was saying, well, you know, if somebody had a gun, you wouldn't, you know, they'd catch them.

02:35:31.000 But I said, well, I said there's a bigger picture here to look at than something like that.

02:35:35.000 So what would you tell Because, you know, this is perfect timing, the Patriot Act 2 gets passed, and this happens, and these kind of things start happening, and they put it on the news, and people are like, oh, you know, well, we've got to protect ourselves.

02:35:49.000 What would you say to those people as these things start happening?

02:35:52.000 Well, number one, bad things happen.

02:35:55.000 And what you'll get is, I mean, we're going to have a checkpoint at every bar, at every street, at every road.

02:36:00.000 Are we all going to be constantly being searched?

02:36:05.000 Number one, you'd have to have about 60 million police instead of 800,000.

02:36:11.000 Number two, the person would just walk up with a gun and shoot the police at the front door.

02:36:17.000 I mean, there's no way to do this.

02:36:18.000 It's a society.

02:36:20.000 That's unraveling. 0.98

02:36:22.000 But we've always had crazy people. 0.82

02:36:23.000 You know, a thousand years ago, a nut with a sword would run up and start slashing a bunch of people. 0.88

02:36:28.000 Absolutely.

02:36:28.000 I mean, in Japan, where they have total gun bans, they have people run into schools with knives and, you know, carve up 15 children.

02:36:35.000 Absolutely.

02:36:37.000 You're always going to have a nut up there, whether you have it or not, and something... Well, you can buy household chemicals and make a bomb.

02:36:42.000 Should we ban being able to have your household chemicals?

02:36:45.000 I mean, it just... Look, there's no end to it.

02:36:47.000 The government can't protect you.

02:36:48.000 It doesn't want to protect you.

02:36:51.000 And, you know, I'd stay away from things like death metal rock concerts.

02:36:56.000 Thanks for the call, sir.

02:36:57.000 Got loaded phones here.

02:36:58.000 Good to hear from you, John.

02:37:00.000 Ben, you're on to the air.

02:37:02.000 Where are you calling from?

02:37:04.000 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

02:37:05.000 Welcome.

02:37:06.000 Yes.

02:37:07.000 God bless you.

02:37:08.000 And it must be terrible down there.

02:37:12.000 I had a question and a statement to actually help people out to get some information.

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02:38:08.000 It would be acceptable.

02:38:09.000 Like, I don't know, do they atomically weight it so that you would know that it's silver even though it's got a Canadian mint on it?

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02:39:13.000 Oh, no, no, no.

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02:39:58.000 I wanted to give the information out to the people so that you could, you know, if they did chose to donate the money instead, so you could use it towards, you know, the Expose Arnold, whatever, all that stuff.

02:40:07.000 Oh, on that we are asking for money.

02:40:10.000 Because that's all going to go to run these ads that we're producing right now to air in California against having him be able to amend the Constitution.

02:40:18.000 Yes.

02:40:19.000 If you want to donate money for that, but write on the check specifically that this is for Arnold Exposed, write it to Alex Jones, but on the bottom say Arnold Exposed.

02:40:28.000 Yes, we are asking for money for that.

02:40:30.000 Before I chew up too much of your time, I don't want to take away from other callers.

02:40:33.000 Here is a very important piece of information that I want the callers to know about.

02:40:36.000 There is a website called www.sutrnova.org.

02:40:45.000 This site contains BIT warrant files.

02:40:50.000 Do you know of those things?

02:40:51.000 Contains what?

02:40:53.000 BIT warrant.

02:40:54.000 E-I-T-T-O-R-R-E-N-T. 1.00

02:40:57.000 A new type of file sharing.

02:40:59.000 Completely legal.

02:41:00.000 At least I know it is in Canada.

02:41:01.000 It should be still in the States. 0.95

02:41:03.000 Okay, I'm not familiar with it.

02:41:05.000 Okay, but here it is.

02:41:06.000 This is a beautiful thing.

02:41:07.000 With downloading off this site, the S-U-P-R-N-O-V-A dot org, it has a plethora of documentaries, yours included, and The Power of Nightmares, 9-1-1 in plain view.

02:41:23.000 There are all tons and books also that you can download for free.

02:41:27.000 It's quite quick.

02:41:29.000 And it has an amazing amount of wonderful, wonderful documentaries on there.

02:41:35.000 Everything that you have, everything that you recommend.

02:41:37.000 Folks, we recommend all available to download there for free.

02:41:41.000 There is no cost involved.

02:41:42.000 The client is free.

02:41:43.000 The files are free.

02:41:45.000 It's just a great big massive file sharing network that everybody uses.

02:41:49.000 Well, that's exciting and that's what's rivaling the mainstream media and their monopoly of information.

02:41:53.000 That's why they're panicking.

02:41:54.000 But listen, Ben, thank you for your time.

02:41:56.000 You're very welcome.

02:41:57.000 You're very welcome, Alex.

02:41:58.000 God bless you.

02:41:59.000 Let me just address this donation situation.

02:42:04.000 People want to give me donations because I don't ask for them.

02:42:08.000 People trust me because I don't sell the magic products that will heal them of everything.

02:42:17.000 Look, I'm in this to get the information out.

02:42:19.000 That's why if you want to donate to me, and quite frankly we could use it, I'll hire more people, I'll get more done.

02:42:26.000 We've just gotten to the point where I don't have to carry out the trash at both offices and I don't have to put all the light bulbs in.

02:42:33.000 I could do a lot more if I had more employees, if I had more money.

02:42:38.000 And we've had people that have sent me checks before, and I appreciate it.

02:42:41.000 In a few cases, we called them and said, do you have a lot of money?

02:42:43.000 And they said, no.

02:42:44.000 And I said, I'm sending your check back.

02:42:46.000 But if somebody wealthy wants to send me a big fat check, they can be absolutely assured every red cent of it will be spent fighting the New World Order.

02:42:53.000 Except if we get specifically for fighting the New World Order, we use to fight the New World Order.

02:42:58.000 Every red cent of the money we've been given to run ads in California against Schwarzenegger, every red cent of that will go towards that.

02:43:07.000 But really, instead of sending me money to then make films to sell them to people, why not just buy a whole bunch of my videos?

02:43:16.000 I mean, that's really why I dropped the price on two of my most popular DVDs for $5.95 apiece.

02:43:22.000 I make a couple dollars on that after I pay employees and, you know, after I do all that stuff.

02:43:27.000 But just for our operating expenses.

02:43:30.000 Why don't you buy, if you want to give me a bunch of money, why don't you buy a hundred copies of it?

02:43:37.000 And then you'll get them and then you can just give them to everybody.

02:43:41.000 Or go donate them to all the libraries in your area.

02:43:44.000 That way it isn't just money that comes in and then, you know, I... It's a better way to get the information out to people.

02:43:53.000 Excuse me, I've still got a cold.

02:43:58.000 It is... It is just better.

02:44:02.000 I do not ask for money.

02:44:04.000 I personally know a lot of people that ask for money do not need money.

02:44:14.000 I hear the begging and the implying that they don't have money and I think it's immoral.

02:44:19.000 I really think it's immoral.

02:44:21.000 I grew up in Dallas, Texas around a lot of the big fancy creatures.

02:44:26.000 And I'd watch little good churches going bankrupt and the big, fat, giant ones, you know, just opulently wealthy, begging and saying they needed money.

02:44:33.000 And I lived across the street from them as they drove around in Jaguars and, you know, owned three houses on the block.

02:44:39.000 Where different ex-wives lived.

02:44:40.000 You know, I mean, it was just, it's crazy!

02:44:45.000 We are not over-capitalized.

02:44:47.000 We do have money.

02:44:49.000 Not a ton of it.

02:44:50.000 We could do more if we had more money.

02:44:53.000 I wish people would just buy the videos.

02:44:54.000 You know, we make a good product at a fair price, at a really ridiculously low price.

02:44:59.000 We let you make copies of the films for non-profit educational purposes.

02:45:05.000 Take PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:45:07.000 Fifteen cents a day.

02:45:09.000 And we had to do that because we just couldn't pay for the bandwidth.

02:45:11.000 I couldn't afford four or five thousand dollars a month in bandwidth having everything free.

02:45:15.000 We do that, we charge, but then have a lot of the stuff for free for people that are just coming by the site for the first time to reach out to them.

02:45:21.000 The goal here is information.

02:45:24.000 The goal here is warning people.

02:45:27.000 I, at the end of the day, do not care about money.

02:45:31.000 Money is only so that I can operate Money is only a means to an end.

02:45:44.000 I don't worship it.

02:45:45.000 It's not my idol.

02:45:48.000 In fact, I wish I was more into it because then I'd be more focused on making it.

02:45:53.000 I wish I was more into my appearance.

02:45:54.000 I used to be.

02:45:56.000 I'm trying to make myself be more into it just because I can last longer and look better to people and that has an effect.

02:46:03.000 You know, there's so many things.

02:46:05.000 I really am focused on how they grab people's children and feed them pesticides and kill them in many cases, and that's the BBC News, you know, here in the United States.

02:46:15.000 I'm more concerned about mercury in the vaccines.

02:46:17.000 I literally burn with a desire to warn people.

02:46:26.000 And so that's my goal.

02:46:29.000 And so I ask all the people out there, If you want to have an effect, order 4 or 5 or 10 or 20.

02:46:35.000 And if you want to just send people money, then order 100 copies of my videos.

02:46:43.000 And again, we'll sell them to you at a little over $5, $5.95.

02:46:45.000 We'll even do some deals even lower if you want to buy a whole bunch of them.

02:46:51.000 And give them to people!

02:46:55.000 And yes, if you're just going to give it to some fat cat preacher that says George Bush is basically the second coming of Christ, then yes, send me your money.

02:47:03.000 Sure.

02:47:04.000 I mean, some months when we don't sell enough Big Berkies, I've got to put thousands of dollars in to pay for the shortwave to reach out to people.

02:47:10.000 I mean, just a few years ago, I would literally have like $100 in my bank account.

02:47:15.000 Now, we're not in that position.

02:47:18.000 But again, money means absolutely nothing to me.

02:47:22.000 Other than it's like fuel in my engine.

02:47:29.000 But anyways, the caller brought that up.

02:47:31.000 I would just ask people out there, if you feel moved to support what we're doing, and I would say probably nobody works harder than we do, and I do, and if you want to get behind something that's defending the republic, then just call the toll-free number 1-888-253-3139.

02:47:49.000 Excuse me.

02:47:53.000 By the third hour of this cold, it gets tough.

02:47:55.000 888-253-3139.

02:47:58.000 888-253-3139.

02:48:00.000 And tell them, I want one copy of your video.

02:48:02.000 And then get it and buy a bunch of VCRs and duplicate it.

02:48:05.000 Spend your money that way.

02:48:06.000 Or say, I want 50 copies of the original.

02:48:09.000 Because people are more apt to watch it if it's in the pretty color packaging and all that.

02:48:12.000 And get them and give them to people.

02:48:15.000 You want to give selflessly.

02:48:18.000 Do that and it'll have a huge effect.

02:48:20.000 1-888-253-3139 or write to me, Alex Jones, at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78704.

02:48:35.000 I've even caught people telling folks to give them money in my name.

02:48:40.000 I've only asked for money twice.

02:48:42.000 Once for the Waco Rebuilding Project and once for Schwarzenegger.

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02:51:41.000 I want to take a few final calls here, and I don't want to discourage people from giving to worthwhile ministries. .

02:51:55.000 But you need to personally check out whoever you give money to.

02:52:00.000 And a good way to donate to the cause, if you want to support this radio broadcast, is call your local AM or FM affiliate up that's carrying the show.

02:52:07.000 Let's say they're carrying an hour or two of it.

02:52:09.000 And say, you know, I want to sponsor the show.

02:52:11.000 I want it on all three hours.

02:52:14.000 And then what that does is we actually reach people who are going to flip through the dial that one time and hear this show in that hour that they wouldn't have heard it.

02:52:21.000 That'll then change their life.

02:52:22.000 And they'll change somebody else's life.

02:52:25.000 The goal is, is giving to things that reach people.

02:52:29.000 And there's ways you can give by buying videotapes where you're assured that good is being done with it, because you're getting the videos out to people yourself.

02:52:38.000 Or giving to radio stations.

02:52:41.000 Doing things like that.

02:52:43.000 That's what you can do.

02:52:45.000 That I know will have an effect.

02:52:49.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Brian in Virginia.

02:52:51.000 Brian, you're on the air.

02:52:52.000 Go ahead.

02:52:53.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:52:53.000 How you doing?

02:52:54.000 Pretty good.

02:52:55.000 I was going to ask if you had heard anything about the underground explosions going off in Virginia, Richmond.

02:53:02.000 You heard anything about that?

02:53:03.000 No, I hadn't.

02:53:05.000 No, it was all over the local news for almost a month, then it kind of went away.

02:53:08.000 They had brought up cosmologists.

02:53:10.000 They brought out the gas company.

02:53:12.000 They talked to the military.

02:53:13.000 They couldn't figure out what it is.

02:53:16.000 Well, I know there's been a lot of weird earthquakes and tremors in areas around the country you don't normally see them.

02:53:21.000 Yeah, I'm wondering if that's what it actually is.

02:53:25.000 Sometimes volcanic activity gets into gas domes and you get underground explosions.

02:53:31.000 Kind of what I was figuring.

02:53:32.000 I had a friend of mine go to a professor in the University of North Georgia to try to find out more about it.

02:53:38.000 There are any fault lines out here.

02:53:40.000 But they're dismissing that.

02:53:41.000 I mean, it's cracking homes.

02:53:43.000 It's got people very concerned.

02:53:46.000 Send me an email on it.

02:53:47.000 I have to plead ignorance.

02:53:49.000 Okay, well, I shot you an email on it today.

02:53:53.000 And they said they believed it was a juvenile creating havoc.

02:54:00.000 And that just isn't plausible.

02:54:01.000 How would a juvenile play havoc and crack foundations?

02:54:05.000 That makes no sense.

02:54:07.000 But that's what I guess people are expecting.

02:54:09.000 Oh, okay.

02:54:10.000 That must be what it is.

02:54:12.000 I know they've admitted they've had these underground tunneling locomotives that can move a couple feet an hour, and then the grinding causes a big hum, a low frequency hum, but I don't know about explosions.

02:54:26.000 Yeah, I have a feeling it could be also that.

02:54:29.000 It could be excavation.

02:54:31.000 There's a lot of that going on.

02:54:32.000 That's been going on since the 40s.

02:54:34.000 Absolutely.

02:54:34.000 I don't doubt that at all.

02:54:36.000 Interesting points, Brian.

02:54:37.000 Thanks for holding.

02:54:38.000 Good to talk to you.

02:54:39.000 Is it Eric in California?

02:54:40.000 Go ahead.

02:54:42.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

02:54:42.000 How's it going?

02:54:43.000 Pretty good.

02:54:44.000 I'm a federal officer, or was, a whistleblower.

02:54:48.000 I've graduated from a federal service academy called King's Point.

02:54:52.000 It's the United States Merchant Marine Academy in New York.

02:54:55.000 It's a sister academy to West Point in Annapolis.

02:54:58.000 The Department of Homeland Security has come after me, pulled me out of civil court, prosecuted me for what I brought civil complaints for.

02:55:06.000 And, covered up, I wrote a whistleblower letter to Secretary Norman at, you know, Department of Transportation.

02:55:12.000 What was it concerning?

02:55:13.000 They've suspended our entire federal contracts.

02:55:15.000 We work as federal maritime officers, embedded in an industry affecting commerce and transportation, working on, like, container ships and tankers, you know, oil tankers and stuff.

02:55:28.000 We are valid federal officers, even when we're working for, like, quote-unquote private shipping companies, like Masten and other shipping companies.

02:55:36.000 Our pay is actually paid out under what are called General Agency Agreements.

02:55:44.000 You know, you'll have to call me back tomorrow or something, earlier in the show, to be able to get through this.

02:55:48.000 I'm sorry, we're to the end of the program.

02:55:51.000 I apologize, Eric, and I apologize to Leon and everybody else that's patiently holding.

02:55:57.000 We're just flat out of time.

02:55:58.000 Thanks for putting up with me with this cold, too.

02:56:01.000 I know it's probably not nice to listen to sometimes, as I uncontrollably hack.

02:56:06.000 Uh, on the air.

02:56:08.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight central on your local AM and FM station.

02:56:11.000 Global shortwave at 3210.

02:56:13.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2 as well during the day, 9.985.

02:56:15.000 And as always, the internet at infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.

02:56:24.000 And, uh, just know that getting out there and taking action is the key.

02:56:29.000 We can affect change.

02:56:30.000 We do have power.

Alex Jones Show - December 09, 2004

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