Alex Jones Show - 20050128_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, well, well, my friends.

00:00:32.000 .

00:00:33.000 Thank you.

00:00:34.000 Here we are.

00:00:35.000 It's already the 28th day of January 2005.

00:00:39.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:41.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:44.000 Wide open telephones throughout the day.

00:00:46.000 In the middle of the next hour, we have a guest coming on to talk about chimeras.

00:00:51.000 That is, cross-species abominations. 1.00

00:00:56.000 And how now the mainstream media and the government is basically throwing it in our face just how far these travesties of life have gone.

00:01:07.000 We're talking about humans mixed with pigs, humans mixed with chimpanzees.

00:01:12.000 They're now announcing all of this.

00:01:14.000 This has been going on for years.

00:01:17.000 And these creatures they've been creating don't have any rights.

00:01:22.000 What was that book?

00:01:23.000 The Island of Dr. Maru or something with all of his All of his monstrosities.

00:01:29.000 But now it's just no big deal.

00:01:33.000 Also coming up, Masons bring child ID program to Fisher School. 0.95

00:01:38.000 Another one, fingerprint technology, gaining ground in school food service.

00:01:44.000 Ah, got a thumb scan all over the country, it's spreading.

00:01:47.000 And another one, see-through wall radar could have law enforcement applications.

00:01:53.000 Out of the globe and mail.

00:01:55.000 Oh, the police are going to be looking through your walls.

00:01:57.000 They've been doing it for five years that I know of, by the way.

00:02:02.000 And another headline here, where they're announcing U.S.

00:02:05.000 edges closer to national ID card.

00:02:08.000 After they passed the national ID card, USA Today and everybody's been telling us, oh, it's kind of a national ID card.

00:02:17.000 Knight Runner News Service.

00:02:19.000 U.S.

00:02:19.000 Edges Closer to National ID Card.

00:02:22.000 No, it's not edging closer.

00:02:24.000 Okay?

00:02:25.000 And Associated Press.

00:02:26.000 U.S.

00:02:27.000 Terror Program.

00:02:28.000 Recruiting Truckers.

00:02:31.000 And others.

00:02:31.000 The T.I.P.S.

00:02:32.000 Program was never cancelled.

00:02:34.000 As we told you two years ago, it was simply doubled in size and had its name changed.

00:02:44.000 And you hear it's the U.S.

00:02:45.000 Terror Program, then you read the actual program, Did you see a man argue with his wife?

00:02:51.000 He doesn't need to be touching her for it to be abuse.

00:02:55.000 Is she yelling at him?

00:02:58.000 That's illegal.

00:02:59.000 That's emotional abuse.

00:03:01.000 Call the police.

00:03:03.000 Yes, this is actually in some of the manuals.

00:03:07.000 Yes, that's it.

00:03:08.000 It's down to that.

00:03:09.000 Did you see someone smoking something in their car that looked like something other than a cigarette?

00:03:16.000 You see, marijuana funds Al-Qaeda. 0.79

00:03:21.000 And if you fund Al-Qaeda, you're a terrorist. 0.94

00:03:25.000 I'm not kidding. 0.92

00:03:27.000 Well, you've seen the public service announcements of, hey, I smoke pot.

00:03:31.000 I'm not hurting anybody, just myself.

00:03:34.000 And that's what you think.

00:03:34.000 You just funded Al-Qaeda.

00:03:36.000 And the guy goes, I did?

00:03:37.000 And he goes, yeah, you did. 1.00

00:03:40.000 Oh, man, you're a terrorist. 0.98

00:03:43.000 This is as much a terrorist as those two ten-year-olds that drew stick figures with swords, stabbing a classmate. 0.98

00:03:52.000 Instead of them getting in trouble, it went to the state police and up to the Attorney General and they said, Seize them!

00:04:04.000 And charge them with felonies!

00:04:07.000 You're going to the big house, boys!

00:04:12.000 How many of you would be in the pokey?

00:04:15.000 How many of you men listening, and you know full well what you drew in school?

00:04:21.000 You know, you know full well the kind of stuff that went on.

00:04:25.000 Uh, and uh, so most of us would be in prison.

00:04:31.000 And that's the plan, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:35.000 Criminalizing everything.

00:04:39.000 There's a move to make not wearing a seatbelt, a felony by the way.

00:04:42.000 Oh, yes, everything will be felonies until you start going to prison for your thoughts themselves.

00:04:54.000 Hey, folks, Alex Jones here.

00:05:02.000 And the behavior of our police is a reflection of our government.

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00:08:08.000 You know, I've become desensitized to news like this, but just look at some of the news I've got in my stack this Friday edition. but just look at some of the news I've got Thank you.

00:08:29.000 Masons bring child ID program to Fisher School.

00:08:33.000 I see one of these every week.

00:08:35.000 It says the Herkmeyer Masonic Lodge is helping students at Fisher Elementary School take steps to provide for their safety should they ever turn up missing or lost.

00:08:47.000 The lodge on Monday began a three-day child identification program at the school seeking to reach all students in pre-kindergarten through third grade.

00:08:57.000 With their parents' permission, each student is being fingerprinted in one of the classrooms while students are also being videotaped in order to provide a record of their appearance, height, sound of their voice.

00:09:08.000 Hey, why shouldn't parents just do this with the kids? 0.84

00:09:12.000 Parents should care enough to do this for their children.

00:09:14.000 Though, kidnapping or disappearance is, I've looked at the statistics, one of the lowest statistical ways for a child to die.

00:09:25.000 I mean, more children die in swimming pools than die from guns.

00:09:29.000 And more children die in cars than die in swimming pools and from guns combined.

00:09:35.000 And then way down the list, I've even got, every year I buy one of those almanacs.

00:09:39.000 It's got all the numbers in it.

00:09:41.000 Of course, that's because I'm a terrorist.

00:09:44.000 According to the FBI alerts, if you have an almanac or a road atlas in your car, it may mean you're a terrorist.

00:09:50.000 Oops, I just admitted I read books.

00:09:54.000 Uh-oh. 0.76

00:09:55.000 See, I mean, this is how ridiculous it's gotten. 0.86

00:09:57.000 I actually just said that and then thought, ooh. 0.93

00:09:59.000 Ooh, Al-Qaeda, ooh.

00:10:00.000 Uh, you know, if you fight Al-Qaeda, you must be with Al-Qaeda. 0.67

00:10:04.000 But if you're with Al-Qaeda, like the administration that funds them, then you're against Al-Qaeda.

00:10:09.000 But, uh, you know, and I'm sure most of these low-level masons mean well. 1.00

00:10:13.000 I think this is part of a good program.

00:10:14.000 But this came down years ago from the big Supreme Lodge in D.C.

00:10:19.000 And, uh, they collect all this stuff and it goes into these big databases.

00:10:22.000 We've caught them.

00:10:24.000 In fact, I learned this from medical workers about 10 years ago, and since then it's been in ABC News Australia, it's been in a couple newspapers here in the U.S.

00:10:34.000 because of lawsuits in Texas and Michigan.

00:10:39.000 Every child born in a hospital in the last 33 years, started 33 years ago, they take ampules of blood from the baby's heel in every hospital in the country.

00:10:53.000 They take two to three ampules.

00:10:57.000 One of the ampules goes to a state, but it's really federally, but it's a state office, depository, or repository.

00:11:09.000 And it stays there.

00:11:11.000 Freeze-dried.

00:11:13.000 And then the other one does indeed go to the health department, as they tell the parents, for blood tests to make sure your child doesn't have any blood diseases.

00:11:22.000 And I learned this years ago.

00:11:23.000 People couldn't believe it.

00:11:24.000 It has since been in the news quite a bit.

00:11:26.000 I've had a congressman on from North Carolina who was fighting it a few years ago, exposing it.

00:11:33.000 So nobody asked you to go into a federal DNA database.

00:11:36.000 Nobody asked your permission when you were born.

00:11:38.000 Nobody asked your parents that.

00:11:40.000 If you're 33 years old or younger and were born in a hospital, they illegally took your DNA.

00:11:49.000 Violated your Fourth Amendment.

00:11:51.000 Now the Supreme Court, on Monday, said there is no Fourth Amendment.

00:11:55.000 The Fifth Circuit said it last year.

00:11:57.000 But again, I don't recognize that. 0.67

00:11:59.000 I didn't recognize it when the Supreme Court said black people weren't human beings.

00:12:04.000 Or when they said Native Americans had no right to their lands.

00:12:07.000 I don't think that's right.

00:12:08.000 I don't think the Supreme Court's God, the Founding Fathers, knew it wasn't and they said it wasn't.

00:12:13.000 But it thinks it's God right now.

00:12:16.000 It's like the White House says they're above the law, even federal, that actually the law issues from Bush's mouth.

00:12:22.000 No, the law only issues from God's mouth, and you're not God, buddy!

00:12:27.000 I know you'd argue with me about that, but, uh... By the way, that's textbook tyranny when leaders start saying, I am the law.

00:12:36.000 I'm Judge Dredd.

00:12:38.000 Judge, jury, and executioner.

00:12:40.000 So, there are the Masons buzzing around, getting the fingerprints. 1.00

00:12:45.000 Like busy little bumblebees about fingerprint technology gaining ground in school food service.

00:12:56.000 For those of you that have been listening for eight years, you know I've been screaming bloody murder about this.

00:13:02.000 We warned you in Road to Tyranny.

00:13:05.000 All over the country, from government facilities to private corporations, Big factory lunch lines to public schools.

00:13:14.000 It's happening in Canada, England, France, Australia, New Zealand.

00:13:18.000 The whole western world's putting this in.

00:13:21.000 No cash allowed!

00:13:25.000 You are only allowed to pay with your thumbprint.

00:13:30.000 And some schools have put retina scanners in.

00:13:32.000 You want to check out a library book?

00:13:33.000 You've got to scan your ID card.

00:13:36.000 You wear it around your neck.

00:13:37.000 And thumbprint.

00:13:39.000 And they're putting RFID in the books.

00:13:43.000 Again, training the children how to live under this societal control.

00:13:51.000 And it continues.

00:13:52.000 We even have the federal plans.

00:13:53.000 This is to condition them.

00:13:55.000 Fingerprint technology gaining ground in school food services from PR Newswire.

00:14:01.000 Again, where I get a lot of news because the industries like to brag to each other via this PR Newswire.

00:14:08.000 Fingerprint technology is now being harnessed at K-12 schools around the nation for school lunches.

00:14:16.000 Students simply place a forefinger or a thumb on a small reader by the register.

00:14:22.000 Public schools such as those in the Penn, Cambria, and Wilson school districts in Pennsylvania have adopted this technology, yeah, five years ago, to speed operation.

00:14:33.000 Districts in Pennsylvania have adopted this technology again to speed operation.

00:14:39.000 Simplify payment, limit lunch fraud and bullying.

00:14:44.000 Can't have money, they say, because that could cause bullying.

00:14:48.000 Improve national school lunch program participation and to improve reimbursement for programs Such as Title 1 E-Rate and No Child Left Behind, which use NSLP food service data to gauge poverty.

00:15:06.000 And I've read the stories where if your parents don't put money or forget to put money on your account each month, no cash allowed.

00:15:14.000 You understand you can't buy credits there with cash either.

00:15:18.000 Then CPS is notified.

00:15:21.000 Also, what you're eating.

00:15:24.000 They scan everything you're buying, and then it goes into a record instantly.

00:15:30.000 It's like when you as an adult go to most grocery stores, and they go, that'll be $97 unless you have the loyalty card.

00:15:37.000 It would have only been $65.

00:15:39.000 Don't you want the card?

00:15:42.000 Well, why do I get such a discount if I have the card?

00:15:44.000 Well, it's a loyalty card.

00:15:47.000 And by the way, we sell all your data to the NSA.

00:15:51.000 And it's instantly hooked into their computers.

00:15:53.000 By the way, that's all admitted, but they don't tell you that. 1.00

00:15:55.000 The idiot behind the counter doesn't tell you that either. 1.00

00:15:58.000 They just carry this out. 1.00

00:15:59.000 But then you think, well, I won't go to Randall's here in Austin where they'd push this on you.

00:16:03.000 I'll go to HEB!

00:16:05.000 We're in College Station in Houston at some stores.

00:16:07.000 They put thumb scanners in at the self-checkout lines and are taking out all the service lines and making you thumb scan.

00:16:12.000 And then they already make their employees at all the HEBs thumb scan.

00:16:15.000 They called in here.

00:16:16.000 I've walked up and videotaped them before.

00:16:18.000 They've got signs up in Austin for two years saying, next month, thumb scanners are going in, but people won't put up with it here in Austin because of, well, some troublemaking talk radio host.

00:16:28.000 So they haven't implemented it yet.

00:16:31.000 But, I mean, it's all over the country.

00:16:33.000 They've got Safeways in Northern California where they're going to get rid of the checkout counters entirely.

00:16:39.000 They've got some of these test places, you know, test stores.

00:16:42.000 They've already gotten it down to one checkout lane and all the rest are little carts that have a little computer on them and you swipe your card and thumb scan to make sure it's you.

00:16:55.000 And then that radio beams back with the transmitters up in the walls, the antennas, and you just scan your goods as you go.

00:17:03.000 Scan your goods as you go.

00:17:06.000 See, it's going in everywhere!

00:17:10.000 Listen to this.

00:17:11.000 Unlike cash, tickets, and swipe cards, which can be lost or stolen, your fingers are always with you.

00:17:18.000 And no one can use them to gain fraudulent access to your account.

00:17:22.000 Says Brenda Bozinski, Secretary to Penn-Cambria School District's Food Service Director.

00:17:31.000 Allaying fears of identity theft, Mitch Jones, President of Food Service Solutions, the company that implemented the bio-liquid use of fingerprints in Pennsylvania School District, as well as across scores of schools and colleges throughout the U.S., is quick to point out that his system does not store any prints.

00:17:49.000 This is the same M.O.

00:17:50.000 I have them saying this in Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

00:17:54.000 Listen to this.

00:17:55.000 This is very important.

00:17:56.000 Only the numbers are retained in the form of a mathematical algorithm and those cannot be re-represented into a fingerprint image, explains Jones.

00:18:07.000 Both parents and students can rest assured that the images cannot be used by law enforcement for identification purposes.

00:18:16.000 Now, if you watch Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

00:18:21.000 You will see the CEO of Biometric Access based in Austin, actually in a parasite of the city, Round Rock, north of us.

00:18:36.000 That's what they used to call suburbs. 0.98

00:18:38.000 It's the parasite of Austin, one of the larger parasites. 1.00

00:18:41.000 And they are a parasite on Round Rock's back. 1.00

00:18:45.000 Biometric Access Right up the road. 0.92

00:18:48.000 By the way, I had a confrontation with a biometric access employee one time in a Chewy's Mexican food restaurant.

00:18:54.000 That's a whole other story, and I actually heard him talking about it and laughing at the general public.

00:18:59.000 I walked out and confronted him.

00:19:01.000 But, again, another side issue.

00:19:05.000 In Police State 3, just a few minutes of the film, I show their CEO on local news channel going, Don't worry, when we thumb scan you, here at HEB, You don't, uh, it doesn't go into a law enforcement database, and don't worry, it's not an image of your thumb.

00:19:22.000 It's just zeros and ones.

00:19:24.000 It's a digital algorithm.

00:19:26.000 Every digital photo, my voice right now going over a computer line is zeros and ones, but it's still my voice.

00:19:32.000 It's total lawyer speak.

00:19:35.000 And then he goes, and don't worry, it doesn't hook in with the police.

00:19:39.000 Well, I walk into HEB, start interviewing the clerk behind the counter with a thumb scanner, and they go, oh yeah, it checks in with the state police.

00:19:47.000 They thumb scan you here.

00:19:47.000 I mean, that's admitted.

00:19:49.000 That's the database.

00:19:50.000 You thumb scan here in this state to get a driver's license.

00:19:53.000 It's 93.

00:19:54.000 And then they admit it there at the store.

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00:24:13.000 All right, David and Alex and Robert and Tim and others.

00:24:24.000 Thank you.

00:24:27.000 We're going to be going to your calls here momentarily.

00:24:29.000 I want to go to your calls quickly so I have your questions and comments ready.

00:24:32.000 And then I want to get into see-through wall radar could have law enforcement applications.

00:24:37.000 Oh, I'm glad the mainstream news is telling us about this.

00:24:40.000 Because about five, six years ago, I saw the Defense Department press releases to industry, the local police departments, that, oh, we're going to be mounting your helicopters for free with stuff that looks right through people's walls.

00:24:53.000 I don't mean like infrared where you just see the heat sources.

00:24:56.000 I mean nice black and white images of you and your wife eating breakfast or doing whatever else.

00:25:03.000 And, uh, this is all part of freedom, folks, living in glass houses, basically.

00:25:07.000 I think it's wonderful.

00:25:09.000 Uh, U.S.

00:25:10.000 edge is closer to national ID card.

00:25:11.000 Again, it's already been passed, and so now, Knight Ridder News Service and AP and USA Today are all going, oh, by the way, I'm afraid they passed something that, well, is a national ID card, or close to it.

00:25:24.000 I mean, you'll have to have it.

00:25:28.000 Also, U.S.

00:25:28.000 terror program recruiting truckers, all part of the T.I.P.S.

00:25:31.000 But see, it had nothing to do with terror, though.

00:25:31.000 program.

00:25:33.000 Again, it's if you're seen arguing with your wife or husband verbally, they are to call the police.

00:25:40.000 That's it for you.

00:25:41.000 And don't draw stick figures, either, with knives in their hands, or it's over.

00:25:44.000 That's terrorism, too.

00:25:46.000 North Korea has bought nuclear bombs, according to ABC News. 0.63

00:25:50.000 And it's evil Pakistan that did it. 1.00

00:25:53.000 But Pakistan, our government helped arm them, and that's our ally.

00:25:57.000 I mean, they're not a threat though.

00:25:59.000 No, Iran is! 1.00

00:26:01.000 Iran is evil! 1.00

00:26:03.000 Because they don't have nukes and can't defend themselves is why. 0.96

00:26:06.000 That's the basic propaganda.

00:26:07.000 And later we've got a guest coming on about cloning cross-species.

00:26:12.000 That's right.

00:26:13.000 I mean, what's wrong with putting little chimpanzee genes in a human clone and bringing it to term and birthing it, which they've already done, and then keeping it quiet and then announcing it? 0.63

00:26:23.000 Just incrementally and saying, well, it's not a human.

00:26:25.000 I mean, it's 10% chimpanzee.

00:26:27.000 It doesn't have any rights.

00:26:28.000 We can do medical experiments on it.

00:26:32.000 We can do that, and most of you will laugh at people like Alex Jones, if he even reads out of the Washington Post about it.

00:26:38.000 Because you don't believe stuff like that exists, because you're still living in 1965.

00:26:41.000 Now, let's talk to David Mauston.

00:26:44.000 David, welcome!

00:26:46.000 How are you, Alex?

00:26:47.000 Oh, I'm doing alright.

00:26:49.000 Did you get, by the way, did you get that DVD of Smallpox that I sent to you?

00:26:54.000 I sent that last week, so I don't know if... My dear, I got it today.

00:26:58.000 Oh, really?

00:26:58.000 Okay, well... That is, it came in yesterday and I opened it this morning.

00:27:02.000 Oh, good.

00:27:02.000 I meant to put it in my car so I could put it on an old clip of it on my TV show, and I think it's sitting in my other office.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, well, at your leisure.

00:27:12.000 Listen, I've got an interesting police state story for you.

00:27:16.000 I don't know if you've heard The company out of Lansing, Michigan, WICO, fires four employees for refusing smoking tests.

00:27:25.000 Well, yeah.

00:27:26.000 Did you hear that one?

00:27:27.000 Yeah, that's happened in Florida.

00:27:29.000 It's happened all over.

00:27:30.000 You know, I'm glad you mentioned this.

00:27:31.000 This is one of the things I forgot to spend time on yesterday.

00:27:34.000 I just mentioned it briefly.

00:27:37.000 Why don't you comment on it, then I've got my comments.

00:27:39.000 Well, essentially what they've done is that the guy, the CEO of the company, has instituted, and apparently the The policy, I think, was initially instituted back in 2003, but I think they must have ramped it up.

00:27:56.000 Anyway, I mean, they're essentially firing people.

00:27:59.000 I mean, you can't even smoke after hours.

00:28:01.000 The part that I caught... Oh, yeah.

00:28:03.000 If you smoke, period.

00:28:05.000 If you smoke, period, you're fired.

00:28:06.000 That's right.

00:28:06.000 Have you ever seen the movie Cat's Eye with James Woods?

00:28:10.000 No, I haven't seen that one.

00:28:12.000 Well, one scene in the movie, it's this kind of surreal, dystopic thing.

00:28:16.000 It's like where there's this health club mafia. 0.82

00:28:19.000 At first it's quit smoking, then it's now you're going to not eat unhealthy food or we're going to cut your wife's finger off.

00:28:25.000 And, you know, basically it's like this oppressive system.

00:28:28.000 But actually, that's the plan.

00:28:30.000 The different federal agencies have said, and Arkansas passed a law last year, if your child is 2% overweight and doesn't lose it within 6 months, they take your child, even 2% overweight.

00:28:44.000 And the indexes are quite skinny.

00:28:46.000 You know, quite small.

00:28:48.000 I mean, I think the indexes are a little bit low, and some people are big-boned. 0.98

00:28:52.000 But if this is the state getting involved there, you know, it starts with some huge obese child who weighs 250 pounds at 10 years of age, and they look like a giant frog and, you know, a crap-o. 0.99

00:29:04.000 Crap-o, and that means frog in French. 0.99

00:29:06.000 Sorry, folks. 0.52

00:29:07.000 But, you know, so this is going on.

00:29:10.000 I heard that this morning, by the way, about them implementing the plan about, yeah, for children, now they have to conform to a certain weight category and it's going to be attached to their report cards.

00:29:21.000 Yeah, but that's what you hear on the news.

00:29:23.000 No, no.

00:29:24.000 These are laws that are going to take your children. 1.00

00:29:27.000 Right, right.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, that's very true.

00:29:29.000 See, notice how they sell you the law until it's like the National ID Card.

00:29:32.000 There might be one kind of before you.

00:29:35.000 Exactly.

00:29:35.000 But they don't tell you, it's been passed and it's harnable.

00:29:38.000 Yeah, I mean, it's true.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, that's absolutely the case.

00:29:42.000 It's all part of the new freedom, sir.

00:29:44.000 Sure is.

00:29:45.000 I appreciate your call, but I want to comment on what you said when we got back.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:33:08.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:13.000 You know, the media just expects us to kind of hum through life happily about this whole high-tech police state.

00:33:20.000 They'd like us all on Prozac just walking along going, La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a I was doing that song during the break and John running the show said, I dare you to do that on there!

00:33:44.000 So there, I figured out a way to integrate acting stupid onto the show. 0.97

00:33:50.000 Now I have won the big prize! 0.98

00:33:53.000 Gotta have some fun, folks.

00:33:55.000 It's Friday.

00:33:57.000 And quite frankly, I...

00:34:01.000 I'm getting sick and tired of the New World Order, but I'm not going to let it get me down.

00:34:04.000 But, I mean, that Lister brought up such important points, I heard it running over him, because I want to add to this, because I've really been thinking about this a lot lately.

00:34:13.000 Plus, we have the federal plans.

00:34:16.000 It's about getting everybody institutionalized, everybody into the system.

00:34:19.000 And all over the country, every couple weeks, I see a new state that passed the law, starting about a year ago with The first one was Arkansas, of all places, and now, I don't know, what is it, like, 10, 15 other states I've seen.

00:34:31.000 I haven't counted them all up.

00:34:33.000 It's a whole bunch.

00:34:35.000 And, see, I mentioned it, the listener says he's up in Boston, the last caller, and he saw it this morning.

00:34:41.000 I mean, it's just, it's everywhere.

00:34:44.000 And they announced that, well, you know, obesity's a big problem with children, and so, Your child's overweight.

00:34:54.000 See, the schools are all turning medical now.

00:34:57.000 You get your twice a year psychological test.

00:35:00.000 Twice a year we put the calipers on you and measure your weight and put that on your report card.

00:35:05.000 It all goes on an ID card your child wears around their neck.

00:35:09.000 They thumb scan to get their lunch.

00:35:10.000 Are you starting to get the idea here?

00:35:14.000 I mean, these are like psychiatric mind control facilities.

00:35:17.000 That's what's being phased in.

00:35:19.000 Fences around them.

00:35:20.000 Police, you know, inside questioning the youth.

00:35:24.000 BATF and hundreds of school districts in 7th or 8th grades, the grades they target, they do a semester class where it's all about law enforcement and they write papers about their family life.

00:35:35.000 I have the documents, not just the news articles.

00:35:37.000 That's in my film, Police Day 2, The Takeover.

00:35:42.000 I mean, from conservative areas and liberal areas.

00:35:45.000 From North Carolina to Kentucky to Texas to New York to California to Oregon.

00:35:51.000 So it's this seamless web of control.

00:35:55.000 And, and, and, and, and, and, look, again, there's so much I could talk about here, but I want to go to your calls, but just take this obesity thing.

00:36:02.000 And again, some of these children look like giant toads. 0.77

00:36:05.000 I use the French term, you know, crapo, for it. 0.91

00:36:07.000 That means toad in French.

00:36:09.000 And I'm not trying to be mean.

00:36:10.000 A lot of that is adrenal problems, hormonal problems, problems with the thyroid.

00:36:17.000 Because of all the hormones in the food, it's screwing the kids up.

00:36:20.000 And it's overeating as well.

00:36:22.000 But instead of saying, you are not allowed to have vending machines.

00:36:26.000 I don't care if it makes four billion dollars a year for the schools.

00:36:29.000 It's four billion a year, folks.

00:36:31.000 You're not going to have Snickers and Milky Ways and Coca-Colas.

00:36:34.000 I mean, listen.

00:36:35.000 When I was in school, folks, That's all people did, almost every break.

00:36:42.000 It was eat candy bars, drink cokes, I'd get cokes, candy bars, luckily I exercised a lot so I wasn't fat, but still!

00:36:49.000 I mean, you sit around for eight hours every day, and then you go eat those school lunches. 0.89

00:36:54.000 I mean, it's ridiculous!

00:36:56.000 So the school puts that stuff in there, and then your children gobble it, and then, instead of Having initiatives, which should be at the state level or city level, or neighborhood leagues, or having the parents involved.

00:37:11.000 You know, where is the sound of the children?

00:37:13.000 When I was a child, that wasn't that long ago.

00:37:16.000 I mean, it just, we went out and we got home from school and we ran and played and did whatever until dark and then we went home and then usually we're so tired, but you know, my dad would stand over me until I did my homework.

00:37:30.000 Uh, you know, went to bed about 10 or 11.

00:37:31.000 We wasn't sitting around watching television.

00:37:35.000 Sometimes before my dad got home, you know, I'd get to watch maybe 30 minutes of cartoons.

00:37:39.000 My mom would walk in and turn it off and my friends would come to the door and I'd run off and play baseball or football or go around, you know, in the woods with our BB guns and it was just wonderful!

00:37:49.000 We play, you know, war and sneak around in the woods and capture the flag and all that stuff.

00:37:55.000 You don't see that anymore, people.

00:37:57.000 I drive all over Austin.

00:37:58.000 I've been all over the country.

00:37:59.000 I mean, you don't see children.

00:38:01.000 You don't see children out.

00:38:03.000 You see the occasional bike.

00:38:05.000 Somebody biking to his friend Bobby's house to play Death Commando. 0.99

00:38:10.000 You know, you're a UN commando who kills patriots.

00:38:14.000 He's got to go play that game.

00:38:17.000 He's gotta go play Deus Ex, or he's gotta go play UN Wing Commander, or whatever.

00:38:24.000 But don't, Ben Billy, go to school and draw a picture of that, or you're going to prison.

00:38:30.000 But on this whole obesity thing, what are they doing?

00:38:35.000 I mean, first, in the last six, seven years, every month, there's a big headline where they show the child, Who looks like Jabba the Hutt, and it seems reasonable that the government's gotten involved.

00:38:45.000 Well, you know, man, that child, I mean, 300 pounds at 12 years of age, or 250 pounds at 10 years of age, I mean, something's gotta be done!

00:38:56.000 But again, road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:38:58.000 It's meant to... It's all done scientifically.

00:39:01.000 Then it's, if your child is 2% over body weight, CPS will get involved, they don't lose the weight within six months.

00:39:08.000 And then now the state's over your children, and by the way, again, let's allow all these violent video games, let's sell them to the kids, but then if they draw a picture of it, you go to prison.

00:39:17.000 Or let's line the halls with candy bars and Cokes, and then when your child gets overweight, we're going to take it from you. 1.00

00:39:23.000 I mean, you see how they do it?

00:39:26.000 Look, but don't touch.

00:39:28.000 Touch, but don't taste.

00:39:31.000 It's all set up.

00:39:32.000 It's done by design. 0.98

00:39:33.000 They're not stupid. 0.99

00:39:36.000 They know what they're doing. 0.98

00:39:38.000 It's like the drug war.

00:39:40.000 The better the drug war gets, the more drugs we have, the more people in prisons, the more men in black ski masks stomping around, bugging their eyes out at us, always for our own good.

00:39:48.000 And the drug dealing families, we've traced it back, own the big private prisons predominantly.

00:39:53.000 The drug dealers own the prisons.

00:39:54.000 They've got a great system.

00:39:56.000 They get it coming and going.

00:39:58.000 So this is how it starts, and I remember about two years ago, real big in Florida, there were cases of employees caught smoking cigarettes at parties, reported by other employees, fired, because you're not allowed to smoke.

00:40:12.000 It's a policy of this company.

00:40:14.000 And then the cases of cops.

00:40:17.000 One of them didn't like his lieutenant.

00:40:20.000 One of the lower-level people, they were at a cop party at a house, described how he saw the officer smoking a cigar.

00:40:29.000 Well, he was fired.

00:40:30.000 Didn't matter if he'd been on the force 20 years.

00:40:33.000 We even interviewed him.

00:40:35.000 And it's the policy of the department that you're not allowed to smoke.

00:40:39.000 No tobacco products.

00:40:40.000 You're fired!

00:40:43.000 Floor is where we see most of these, but now the caller's mentioned, yes, it's all over the country, And then they say, and I've heard the so-called neocons on talk radio the last few days going, well, you know, it's a private company and policy's policy, but see, the companies are now bigger than government.

00:40:59.000 And see, you're going to have to work for one of these big companies and see, first it's cigarettes, then it's, oh, we've got to do a blood or urine test, which they were demanding of the employees, and they said no!

00:41:08.000 I'll let you drug test me for drugs, you know, cocaine, marijuana, whatever, but you are not going to test me for nicotine.

00:41:16.000 So they said to the four employees, fine, you're fired.

00:41:19.000 No smoking.

00:41:21.000 And then now they're trying to pass laws.

00:41:22.000 They've passed some in the country.

00:41:24.000 No smoking outside.

00:41:26.000 No smoking in your own house.

00:41:28.000 They have other laws.

00:41:29.000 No religious services at your home.

00:41:31.000 And so the Baptists have five people over, or the Rabbi has four people over, and the police actually come the second time and arrest the Rabbi.

00:41:40.000 Come and arrest the Baptist, uh, meeting, you know. 1.00

00:41:44.000 But, meanwhile, it's okay if the neighbors next door have a bachelor party with ten topless dancers, swinging from the chandeliers. 1.00

00:41:54.000 All of this is about control.

00:41:56.000 This is not what America is, and none of it has anything to do with stopping Al-Qaeda. 0.55

00:42:01.000 And so now, Health and Human Services Secretary, about what, two years ago, they put out the report.

00:42:07.000 The Agriculture Department put out a report a few years ago as well, saying We're going to have a national ID card to the driver's license.

00:42:14.000 You're going to scan it.

00:42:14.000 There's going to be a sales tax.

00:42:15.000 That's already being announced.

00:42:17.000 And while you do this, everything you buy will be tracked.

00:42:21.000 And you'll be allowed a certain amount of beer, a certain amount of Blue Bell ice cream, a certain amount of fattening things, a certain amount of T-bones.

00:42:28.000 But over that point, it's going to be flagged and it's going to go to the police department.

00:42:33.000 And it's going to go to the insurance company.

00:42:34.000 This is admitted!

00:42:36.000 And I'm sure you've heard the report of a guy who goes into the doctor and says, Doctor, I'm having some heart palpitations.

00:42:41.000 And the doctor, well, do you drink?

00:42:43.000 Well, yeah, I'm 46 years old, and a lot of nights I get home after work, I don't drink and drive, but I drink a six-pack.

00:42:49.000 And the doctor said, well, I'm revoking your driver's license.

00:42:52.000 No judge, no jury.

00:42:53.000 But you say you don't drink while you drive, but still, I just think you might be, and so we're revoking your license.

00:42:59.000 And the guy stood and went to court, and they said, yes, it doesn't matter if you don't drink and drive.

00:43:05.000 You say you drink a six-pack.

00:43:07.000 Well, the doctor says you don't think you should be able to have a license because of that.

00:43:10.000 Okay, you don't have it.

00:43:12.000 See folks, are you starting to get what I'm talking about here?

00:43:16.000 And I'm not joking about this.

00:43:18.000 Your children are in these schools.

00:43:21.000 This is the model of the future.

00:43:24.000 Does it matter?

00:43:25.000 Give the valedictorian a young lady. 1.00

00:43:28.000 Valedictorian, last day of school.

00:43:31.000 She brought cake and cookies.

00:43:33.000 And she was going to put on a little party with her little speech club in one of the classrooms after school.

00:43:41.000 It's a little hour-long party to say bye to friends.

00:43:44.000 Well, the security guard we interviewed about three years ago.

00:43:48.000 The security guard saw the Dixie box.

00:43:52.000 You know the Dixie box I'm talking about.

00:43:53.000 It has a little area with spoons and fork and knife.

00:43:57.000 You know the little box that has ten of each and saw the paper plates.

00:44:02.000 He saw the plastic knives.

00:44:05.000 She was arrested.

00:44:07.000 And she was not allowed to graduate and they stripped her. 0.73

00:44:11.000 She went to court and later did get her GED.

00:44:15.000 But no Valon Victorian for you.

00:44:19.000 We're stripping it from you.

00:44:21.000 We have a zero tolerance policy.

00:44:25.000 You must be as mindless as possible and persecute everyone, to be fair.

00:44:29.000 Why, you saw what happened to Columbine.

00:44:31.000 You know, we saw your federal operation.

00:44:34.000 Type that in.

00:44:35.000 A type of invalid Victorian loses diploma over plastic knife.

00:44:43.000 She had the little paper, the little paper, tablecloth, the cake, the cookies, the soda pop.

00:44:52.000 And she had the Dixie Box.

00:44:55.000 And even the Dixie Cups.

00:44:58.000 Oh, you think I'm joking?

00:44:59.000 I mean, I just have like a hundred other examples of this flood through my mind.

00:45:03.000 Remember the homeschooler?

00:45:06.000 The homeschooler.

00:45:07.000 Fifteen.

00:45:08.000 Graduated from high school.

00:45:12.000 Top of her class in New York City.

00:45:16.000 Highest test score in New York City.

00:45:21.000 Fifteen years old.

00:45:24.000 Scholarship at the college.

00:45:26.000 Everything ahead of her.

00:45:27.000 Had all these friends, you name it.

00:45:30.000 They came, and they told the father, where is your daughter?

00:45:34.000 He said, she is at school.

00:45:35.000 And they said, we're taking her from you.

00:45:38.000 And last time I interviewed her and the father, she was in hiding.

00:45:41.000 I don't remember.

00:45:41.000 It was in the New York Post.

00:45:42.000 She was in hiding.

00:45:43.000 They were seeking her.

00:45:45.000 Seeking her.

00:45:46.000 They'd already kicked her out of college, told the dean, you're not allowed to have her. 1.00

00:45:51.000 We're revoking her diploma even though she passed the test after this.

00:45:55.000 And then we're seeking to take her because the father abused her by not letting her have the enjoyment of high school and her peers. 0.98

00:46:03.000 Oh, don't believe me?

00:46:05.000 Type in 15-year-old homeschoolers sought by police.

00:46:09.000 That was last year.

00:46:11.000 And again, dozens of examples just flooded my mind.

00:46:14.000 These aren't... Another New York case.

00:46:18.000 Man gives 10%, not 20%, arrested, charged with felony robbery.

00:46:25.000 Yes.

00:46:26.000 Or man talking on cell phone arrested.

00:46:29.000 Or woman talking on cell phone tackled, arrested.

00:46:33.000 Or man put Leg up on bench, arrested.

00:46:37.000 Or, woman walked down to the subway platform, and the officer said, you can't eat that on the subway. 0.99

00:46:43.000 She said, okay, and popped the last piece of Butterfinger into her mouth.

00:46:47.000 He arrested her, and said, uh, disorderly conduct, disregarding the order of a police officer, resisting without violence, and the officer told the news, I did it because she was disrespectful the way she chewed. 0.99

00:47:02.000 She aggressively popped it in her mouth with pleasure and chewed it arrogantly! 1.00

00:47:10.000 And we don't put up with that in America now!

00:47:15.000 Are you with Al Qaeda?

00:47:17.000 And you don't chew aggressively!

00:47:20.000 And you don't look at the President in the eyes or you're arrested!

00:47:23.000 And you don't bring a cross to a demonstration!

00:47:26.000 This is the new freedom, people!

00:47:28.000 And you don't sell knock-offer Rubik's Cubes or Homeland Security, it'll hit you, it'll hit you hard!

00:47:33.000 And you don't complain to the VA too much, they'll admit that he didn't threaten anybody, but had to be arrested as a terrorist!

00:47:40.000 Because complaining is terrorism.

00:47:42.000 Because it holds up the government, and by holding up the government, that helps Al-Qaeda! 0.98

00:47:49.000 That's what they said.

00:47:50.000 Everything helps Al-Qaeda now. 1.00

00:47:52.000 We're all servants of Al-Qaeda. 1.00

00:47:54.000 And the government's doing its best to hold back the flood against all of us.

00:47:59.000 Let's talk to Alex in the Carolinas.

00:48:01.000 Alex, go ahead.

00:48:01.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:48:03.000 I appreciate it.

00:48:04.000 You bet, sir.

00:48:05.000 And I appreciate the show very much.

00:48:07.000 I have a comment and two questions.

00:48:10.000 The first thing is that I just found out that on May 12th in Raleigh, North Carolina, we'll be having our very own FEMA disaster drill.

00:48:19.000 I think that's really interesting.

00:48:20.000 Well, call it what it is.

00:48:22.000 Federalization Relinquishment of Local Control Slave Drill.

00:48:27.000 Well, you know, right there on their site, what do they call it?

00:48:29.000 They use a very funny phrase.

00:48:31.000 It says, CERT is a national service program of the U.S.

00:48:35.000 Freedom Corps.

00:48:37.000 Like peace, crime, or, you know, like the way I should probably full stop the duck speak, full stop the duck speak, speed wise.

00:48:46.000 It sounds like new speak to me.

00:48:48.000 Double quack, double plus good.

00:48:50.000 Exactly.

00:48:50.000 So you know the 11th edition, good.

00:48:54.000 I'm a terrorist already, I'm sure, but I do hope to go to this drill and I do hope to videotape it.

00:49:02.000 They also are asking for people to participate.

00:49:04.000 I don't know if I really feel comfortable about that because who knows what they're actually going to do to you.

00:49:08.000 They say that you're going to have to be You know, pretend some sort of nuclear or biological attack.

00:49:15.000 Yeah, they're going to splatter fake blood on you.

00:49:17.000 They'll probably have a bunch of school kids there, because, you know, they order them out of the class, and there'll be men screaming with machine guns, and they'll probably blow up some old cars in the town.

00:49:26.000 So that's May 12th.

00:49:27.000 The questions I have, though, concern the right to keep and bear arms, although I guess these days that's the privilege.

00:49:33.000 Well, according to... It's in his heart, Alberto Gonzalez wants to ban your guns.

00:49:37.000 Exactly.

00:49:38.000 It's heartfelt.

00:49:40.000 But seriously, the first question I have is, is it really worthwhile anymore to obtain a concealed carry permit?

00:49:46.000 I'd like to do it.

00:49:47.000 I'd like to be able to transport my firearms without harassment.

00:49:50.000 But on the other hand, I'm worried I'm just going in the gun grabber database.

00:49:53.000 What are your opinions?

00:49:54.000 Well, you are, and it turns a right into a privilege.

00:49:59.000 You know, in Texas, you don't need a permit to carry a loaded shotgun or rifle.

00:50:04.000 And that's why the few times stalkers have been particularly bad at threatening me, well, I just put a shotgun in the back seat.

00:50:10.000 Uh, but I haven't done that in years.

00:50:11.000 I'm not too worried about myself.

00:50:12.000 If they strike me down, you know, that's just the way it goes.

00:50:15.000 That's all God's will.

00:50:17.000 Uh, but, um... No, I mean, that's what they've done.

00:50:22.000 You know, they turn a right into a privilege, a license is authorization to do something that would be illegal.

00:50:27.000 So the government tells us it's illegal to travel unless the king gives you permission.

00:50:30.000 It's illegal to have a gun unless we give you permission.

00:50:33.000 It's a special license.

00:50:34.000 And, you know, it's a stopgap measure.

00:50:36.000 What we need is Vermont-style carrying, which just says, hey, you've got a right to carry guns.

00:50:41.000 End of story.

00:50:42.000 Second Amendment.

00:50:43.000 Does that answer your question, sir?

00:50:45.000 Yeah, one other thing.

00:50:46.000 Have you seen the PSN.gov billboards?

00:50:49.000 Felons using guns do hard times.

00:50:52.000 Yes, stay there.

00:50:52.000 We'll talk about it on the other side.

00:50:55.000 Good points there.

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00:54:12.000 I just get an idea of my frustration.

00:54:14.000 I mean, I've just got legions of examples of the most Orwellian type control.

00:54:19.000 And that's what Alex in the Carolinas was getting into, you know, quack speak and double plus good, the 11th version of Ingsoc.

00:54:29.000 You've got to read 1984 to follow along with us, but I mean, really, they're implementing.

00:54:33.000 They're restricting the language, changing the meaning of words.

00:54:38.000 Just, it's amazing.

00:54:40.000 It's like Bush's speech.

00:54:42.000 I mean, that was right out of 1984.

00:54:44.000 Liberty, liberty, freedom, freedom, fighting tyranny, fighting tyranny, fighting outpost of tyranny.

00:54:49.000 It's the opposite of what that puppet's actually doing.

00:54:52.000 But, uh, Alex, uh...

00:54:54.000 You just brought up a point before the break, what was the rest of it?

00:54:57.000 Uh, the PSN.gov billboards that say, I think it says, felons with guns do crime.

00:55:01.000 It's one of these things.

00:55:02.000 Well, what they do is, let me, I mean, I've seen these in their own buses in Austin, they're all over the country.

00:55:06.000 I've seen pictures of them all over the country.

00:55:07.000 I've driven around the nation and seen them.

00:55:09.000 This has been going on for a decade.

00:55:11.000 It says, report illegal guns.

00:55:13.000 And there's a big revolver.

00:55:15.000 And then in small print that you've got to stand under the billboard to read, can't see from the road, or get right up against the bus to read, it says, felons beware, it's illegal for you to have a gun.

00:55:25.000 But see, the general public sees just a revolver and thinks, report illegal guns, those revolvers are illegal!

00:55:31.000 And so, uh, then when they're, you know, in your house or whatever and see a revolver and a case on the wall, they go call the police.

00:55:40.000 Yeah, I mean it's one of these things that it's just too obvious for that to be the purpose.

00:55:44.000 I mean, why else would they put a handgun with a big extra?

00:55:47.000 Why not show off someone who looks like a criminal with a gun? 0.50

00:55:50.000 I mean, what they're trying to do, obviously, is to make you associate, you know, gun equals crime.

00:55:56.000 Well, gun equals you're going to jail!

00:55:59.000 And then see most of the TV shows are set in New York or Chicago or L.A.

00:56:03.000 where you basically have semi-gun bans or total gun bans.

00:56:06.000 And so people see the simulated cop, go over and go, he's got a gun!

00:56:10.000 Get down on the ground! 0.75

00:56:11.000 You're going to jail for 20 years for this!

00:56:13.000 People watch that and think guns are illegal! 0.96

00:56:15.000 So, in the majority of the country where they're still completely legal, where the Second Amendment is still alive somewhat, again, somebody moves to your state from New York City, and they're a carpet cleaner, this happened to me, and they come to your house to clean your carpets, and they see a shotgun and a case, and they go and almost try to call the police on me until their bosses told them, no, we were allowed to have guns in Texas.

00:56:39.000 I mean, that's how crazy this is.

00:56:41.000 This is the mind control, people.

00:56:43.000 And George Bush has radically expanded the quote, gun education funding.

00:56:47.000 And these things are going up everywhere.

00:56:50.000 Good points, Alex.

00:56:52.000 Thanks for the call.

00:56:55.000 Before we go back to Robert and Tim and Preston and Chris and William and everybody else that is patiently holding, just briefly here at the end of the hour, a little salvo out there in the info war.

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00:59:27.000 Just so much coming up, but let's get through your Good morning, Alexander.

00:59:31.000 You trouble-making radio talk show host, you.

00:59:33.000 Well, yes, I am.

00:59:34.000 I'm very bad.

00:59:35.000 I enjoyed your interview yesterday with Colonel Kaschenoff.

00:59:39.000 Go ahead.

00:59:40.000 You're on the air, Robert.

00:59:42.000 Good morning, Alexander.

00:59:44.000 You troublemaking radio talk show host, you.

00:59:47.000 Well, yes, I'm very bad.

00:59:50.000 Enjoyed your interview yesterday with Colonel Kasinoff.

00:59:56.000 Is that his name?

00:59:58.000 Yes.

00:59:59.000 Yeah, I laughed myself silly when you said, is it true that U.S.

01:00:04.000 Congressmen are being bribed by the Russians?

01:00:07.000 And he said, well, if that's true, I feel sorry for the Congressmen.

01:00:10.000 I was actually talking about Israelis, yeah.

01:00:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:00:14.000 Um... I don't know, just went blank.

01:00:17.000 I had something to say.

01:00:18.000 I know how that is.

01:00:19.000 Yeah, yeah, give me a second so I can pop it to my head.

01:00:22.000 As you know, Richard Scrucio of HealthSouth is on trial now for a financial misstatement.

01:00:27.000 Same with Bernie Evers, WorldCom MCI, and the guy from Tyco, Kozlowski.

01:00:32.000 But that's all just low-level stuff there.

01:00:34.000 I was wrong.

01:00:35.000 It's not a trillion-two missing.

01:00:37.000 CBS News now reporting, we reposted this yesterday, that $2.4 trillion is missing from the Pentagon.

01:00:44.000 Yeah.

01:00:45.000 So you think that's just happenstances?

01:00:47.000 All three of them are on trial at the same time?

01:00:49.000 Well, I mean, it's to make you think...

01:00:52.000 We're talking about hundreds of millions with these guys.

01:00:54.000 Yeah.

01:00:55.000 Compared to trillions.

01:00:56.000 Yeah.

01:00:57.000 So trillions is being stolen, and they're burning some just low-level people.

01:01:02.000 I mean, hundreds of millions compared to trillions is nothing.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, I hear you.

01:01:06.000 It's meant to create... People didn't have confidence in the stock market, so it's meant to create confidence that we're cleaning it up, we're fixing it.

01:01:14.000 Meanwhile, they're raiding our pension funds systematically.

01:01:17.000 Yeah, two years after Bush changed the pension fund rules where we don't own our own pension funds.

01:01:22.000 Good point, good point.

01:01:23.000 They changed the pension fund rules, and then every time they steal a line, they go, it was just an accident, I mean... I, uh, look forward, enthusiastically, to tonight when you and George Norrie hook up on the radio.

01:01:36.000 I'm gonna plug in my, uh, boombox at the back of my sound card and just record it.

01:01:41.000 It's like, let's do it, uh, this weekend.

01:01:43.000 I think that'll be really good, you and him, here together, in studio, no less.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, I look forward, I look forward to it.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, be sure and talk it up, Alex, and let people know, because that's going to be a big deal.

01:01:53.000 Well, I've been on a bunch before, but it's always fun.

01:01:56.000 Are you going to be on all four hours, do you know?

01:01:59.000 You know, I was supposed to call them yesterday, but by the time I called, the producer was out.

01:02:03.000 But I'm either on three hours or four hours, I don't know.

01:02:06.000 In for a penny, in for a pound.

01:02:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:10.000 Okay, man, thanks for your time.

01:02:11.000 Keep up the good work.

01:02:11.000 God bless.

01:02:12.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

01:02:14.000 Let's talk to Tim in Ohio.

01:02:15.000 Tim, you're on the air.

01:02:16.000 Go ahead.

01:02:19.000 Hello Tim!

01:02:21.000 You're on the air, my friend.

01:02:24.000 Now you're going.

01:02:25.000 Let's talk to Preston in Washington.

01:02:27.000 Go ahead, Preston.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, I noticed those thumb and retina scanners at Customs last time I went out of the country, and I asked the guy if they're going to be implemented, and he says, oh no, not yet.

01:02:38.000 That's just for future use.

01:02:40.000 He says, we really don't do that right now.

01:02:43.000 Oh, really?

01:02:44.000 They just signed the regulations a month ago to do it, and just passed the National ID Card.

01:02:49.000 That was as recently as October of last year I had asked him, because that's when I went through customs.

01:02:55.000 And he said, nonchalantly, he's like, well, you know, do you think that's a good idea?

01:03:02.000 He kind of leaned over and looked around and said, personally, I don't like it.

01:03:06.000 Well, it's like the Roach Motel.

01:03:08.000 Roaches can get in, they can't get out. 0.88

01:03:10.000 All this stuff is for getting out of the country.

01:03:13.000 That's where the security is.

01:03:15.000 Right.

01:03:15.000 Well, and this was also coming back in.

01:03:18.000 This was coming back into the states, too.

01:03:21.000 I'm aware of that, but they engage in acing.

01:03:25.000 They have a rule, a federal rule, where they just disregard it and turn them off coming in.

01:03:31.000 But it's 100% going to be implemented going out.

01:03:33.000 Wow, because going out, I didn't have to do it.

01:03:36.000 It's called acing.

01:03:37.000 Not yet.

01:03:38.000 And acing is mainly used for Muslim countries.

01:03:43.000 This was in the Miami Herald.

01:03:44.000 They have a rule.

01:03:46.000 I'll tell you about it when we get back.

01:03:47.000 Stay there.

01:03:48.000 We'll tell you about acing when we return.

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01:07:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:13.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

01:07:18.000 We're 8 minutes and 30 seconds into the second hour of this live Friday edition.

01:07:25.000 We're getting some of your great calls out of the way.

01:07:27.000 They've been holding patiently.

01:07:28.000 Then I'm going to plunge back into the news.

01:07:30.000 We'll be talking about cloning with a cloning expert.

01:07:32.000 Some of the monstrosities of the island of Dr. Maru that are actually manifesting themselves.

01:07:38.000 But right now, I believe we were talking to Preston in Washington State.

01:07:44.000 And Preston, you were bringing up an important point.

01:07:46.000 Recap that for the folks that just joined us.

01:07:49.000 Oh, it's just the...

01:07:51.000 Some scanners and the retina scanners that customs when you're entering and leaving the country.

01:07:56.000 And I was talking about acing.

01:07:57.000 Right.

01:07:59.000 Acing is a process where people come in from foreign countries and they'll just selectively sometimes check everybody's papers.

01:08:09.000 But when they do acing, everybody just walks through showing their papers, holding them up.

01:08:14.000 And no one is looked at.

01:08:16.000 It's the same thing that was in the Homeland Security bill.

01:08:20.000 of the National Intelligence Act, the 9-1-1 bill as it was called, it had three different names, that was passed a month and a half ago that gave us the national ID card and other goodies.

01:08:32.000 Inside there, it says illegal aliens were going to accept all their ID cards from their countries, that anybody can get, and banks and states are supposed to accept them, but citizens then have to show all these other forms of ID.

01:08:46.000 So it actually gave partial amnesty to the illegal aliens.

01:08:50.000 Well, what amazed me was when I went through, I had my passport and everything ready.

01:08:55.000 And they said, uh, you need to see this.

01:08:58.000 And he thought it was issued by the United States.

01:08:59.000 He waved because he said, no, I don't need to see that.

01:09:02.000 And I said, don't you need to stamp it for entry back into the country?

01:09:05.000 He goes, no, go right ahead.

01:09:07.000 Which I found very unusual.

01:09:09.000 Didn't even look at my passport to get back into the United States.

01:09:13.000 He just asked me where I was coming from.

01:09:15.000 Yeah, no, you were aced.

01:09:16.000 Okay.

01:09:19.000 Good to hear from you.

01:09:20.000 Let's talk to Chris.

01:09:20.000 Chris, where are you calling us from?

01:09:21.000 It's actually a written rule that they're allowed to, but the other rules say they're not supposed to.

01:09:26.000 That's the thing.

01:09:27.000 The government's got different rules and laws for a hundred different occasions.

01:09:33.000 It's cold tyranny.

01:09:34.000 Thanks for the call.

01:09:34.000 Thank you.

01:09:35.000 Good to hear from you.

01:09:36.000 Let's talk to Chris.

01:09:37.000 Chris, where are you calling us from?

01:09:39.000 Hi, Alex.

01:09:40.000 How are you?

01:09:41.000 Good.

01:09:42.000 You're calling from New Mexico?

01:09:43.000 Yes, I sure am.

01:09:44.000 All right.

01:09:44.000 Good to have you on board.

01:09:45.000 What's going on?

01:09:46.000 Thank you, sir.

01:09:47.000 Well, I got a little cherry here to add to the cake of your day.

01:09:51.000 On our local news here, they run a, at ten minutes into the hour, they run a little 60-second thing from Dr. Phil.

01:10:00.000 You know, the tip of the day from Dr. Phil.

01:10:03.000 And here's what he said, and I quote from the last Tuesday's show.

01:10:06.000 Being a parent is a privilege, not a right.

01:10:12.000 So, okay, so we can't even have kids anymore, you know?

01:10:16.000 Well, Dr. Phil knows best, and he's gonna help you.

01:10:19.000 Yeah, and all of America heard this, of course, so, you know, I mean, geez.

01:10:24.000 And that's what they do.

01:10:25.000 For years, they give good advice, act nice, act real friendly, smile at you, look into the camera sincerely, wear the nice fancy suits.

01:10:33.000 Just your fatherly figure.

01:10:34.000 And then, overnight, ban SUVs, arrest people.

01:10:38.000 You know, it's like O'Reilly.

01:10:40.000 They just shift gears into this neocon mode.

01:10:43.000 And I didn't hear that, but, um, Again, a privilege is something authorized by the state.

01:10:49.000 Absolutely.

01:10:50.000 And so, again, the state is really the parent.

01:10:52.000 I've seen the documents where the schools say, we're really the parents.

01:10:55.000 We have more rights than the parents.

01:10:57.000 Of course, it's all a fraud, but they're now trying to claim this, folks.

01:11:01.000 And so, I guess Dr. Philbin's going to have something special about grabbing people's kids or something.

01:11:04.000 Yeah, probably.

01:11:05.000 Listen, I do have a question.

01:11:07.000 I listen to a lot of AM broadcasts, and I've been hearing something a little strange lately.

01:11:13.000 First of all, who is this Ad Council?

01:11:15.000 Because, you know, all of this stuff that relates to, like, state things and Homeland Security and all this stuff, brought to you by the Ad Council.

01:11:24.000 Who are these people, number one?

01:11:26.000 And the other part of that is, it seems like they've had a change of names, or a shift in names.

01:11:32.000 You know, first it was Homeland Security, and now I've noticed they're saying Homeland Defense.

01:11:38.000 What's that all about?

01:11:39.000 Well, Homeland Defense is one of the missions.

01:11:41.000 The real mission is infrastructure protection of Homeland Security.

01:11:45.000 I'm actually trying to dig out an article, two articles I have about the Ad Council.

01:11:50.000 They've been caught being involved, being part of the mechanism for doling out cash to people to put out the government propaganda line.

01:11:59.000 The whole Armstrong Williams type thing.

01:12:01.000 Yeah, and who was that other gal that was just exposed the other night? 1.00

01:12:05.000 Yeah, a whole bunch of them.

01:12:07.000 What's happened here is, and what goes on is, I actually had the head of the Ad Council on a few years ago.

01:12:14.000 Because they were running anti-gun ads.

01:12:17.000 And as part of the Ad Council was McGruff the Crime Dog, and I said, Nah!

01:12:21.000 Hope, take a bite out of freedom!

01:12:23.000 And I was doing McGruff the Crime Dog, but now, Nah!

01:12:26.000 McGruff the Nazi Dog!

01:12:27.000 Nah! 0.99

01:12:28.000 Take a bite out of the Second Amendment! 0.93

01:12:30.000 Did you know McGruff does that?

01:12:31.000 He takes a bite out of crime.

01:12:33.000 And no, now you hear these ad council ads and it's a report there immediately.

01:12:39.000 And you know, your government needs you to volunteer to help them.

01:12:42.000 I mean, all these Orwellian ads that you hear from the ad council that gets all this federal and then private money to do this, it's very scary.

01:12:53.000 It is.

01:12:54.000 You know, I mean, I've been listening to you for about seven months now and I first got clued into all this about a dozen years ago, and it's like, you can't be serious.

01:13:01.000 But then as time went on, it's like, oh, my God, it's true, you know.

01:13:04.000 And, you know, I went through the usual thing of, you know, going through the depression and, you know, then pulling out of it and, you know, just and my mom, God bless her, she's 68 years old and she knows all about this stuff.

01:13:16.000 She'll be listening to you tonight when you're on with George and, you know, it's oh, man.

01:13:21.000 Sometimes if you don't laugh, you know, you'll feel like No, you've got to laugh. 0.93

01:13:28.000 Put the gun to your head. 0.87

01:13:28.000 Yeah, you do. 0.87

01:13:29.000 You've got to keep our spirits up but be serious at the same time as they focused on exposing it.

01:13:33.000 Thanks for the call.

01:13:34.000 Really good hearing from you.

01:13:35.000 I'm trying to find these articles.

01:13:39.000 I had them in one of the three stacks.

01:13:44.000 Oh, here they are.

01:13:45.000 Here they are.

01:13:45.000 Good, I found it.

01:13:46.000 There's just so much here, folks.

01:13:47.000 So much.

01:13:49.000 Third columnist paid by Bush administration according to a report on Salon.com.

01:13:54.000 Another columnist has been paid to promote Bush administration initiatives.

01:13:58.000 It's over $2,000.

01:13:59.000 Okay folks, I have the numbers.

01:14:01.000 Salon claims the Department of Health and Human Services paid conservative columnist Mark McManus $10,000 to back the Bush marriage agenda.

01:14:09.000 The full registration restricted article can be found here.

01:14:15.000 And it goes on.

01:14:16.000 One day after President Bush ordered his cabinet secretaries to stop hiring commentators to help promote administration initiatives, and one day after the second high-profile conservative pundit was found to be on the federal payroll, a third embarrassing hire has emerged.

01:14:29.000 Salon has confirmed that Michael McManus, a marriage advocate whose syndicated column Ethics and Religion, appears in 50 newspapers, was hired as a subcontractor by the Department of Health and Human Services to foster a Bush-approved marriage initiative.

01:14:45.000 And again, that all sounds good, but you can't have government in that business.

01:14:49.000 And again, what they're doing is they're, on purpose, they're exposing payments for things that don't sound that bad.

01:14:55.000 What about $76 million to put fake newscasts on about how good the prescription drug deal is?

01:15:00.000 See, you don't hear a lot about that.

01:15:02.000 Or what about the hundreds of millions that are spent at what I call propaganda places to actually pay the TV shows to put anti-gun messages in them?

01:15:11.000 They've been caught doing this.

01:15:13.000 I mean, Jerry Bruckheimer is admittedly contracted with the government, writing scripts for them.

01:15:18.000 Scripting how to do the Saving Private Lynch story, BBC reported.

01:15:22.000 I mean, that's where the meat of it is, but they focus in on some little crumbs at the edge.

01:15:28.000 And the conservatives hear it and go, well, you know, I mean, so what?

01:15:31.000 You know, we're fighting the liberals here.

01:15:34.000 Oh yeah, how about hundreds of millions for anti-gun initiatives?

01:15:39.000 I guess that's okay, too, with you.

01:15:41.000 Here's another one.

01:15:41.000 Senators introduced Stop Government Propaganda Act, New York in response to continued revelations of government-funded journalism, ranging from reported video news releases put out by the Drug Czar's Office and the Department of Health and Human Services, and recently uncovered payments to columnist Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher, who's flacked administration programs, Senator Edward M. Kennedy, and

01:16:08.000 Frank R. Lautenberg will introduce a bill to stop Government Propaganda Act in next week's Senate.

01:16:15.000 It's not enough to say, please don't do it anymore.

01:16:18.000 Alex Formunas, Lautenberg's spokesman, told E&P legislative systems sometimes is required as we believe is in this case.

01:16:28.000 And the Stop Government Propaganda Act funds appropriated to an executive branch agency may not be used for publicity or propaganda purposes within the United States unless authorized by law.

01:16:41.000 And it's time for Congress to shut down the administration's propaganda mill.

01:16:45.000 Lautenberg said in a statement, it has no place in the United States government.

01:16:48.000 The bill is co-sponsored by Senator Richard Durbin, Democrat Illinois, and John Corzine, Democrat New Jersey.

01:16:56.000 But again, you guys didn't care back when Bill Clinton was doing this.

01:17:01.000 I mean, I remember when it came out when Bill Clinton actually, on NBC and CBS, they funded whole special newscasts and whole special hour-long specials that looked like newscasts with the normal newscast anchors promoting the socialized healthcare.

01:17:20.000 And gun control programs, and all this.

01:17:23.000 So when you watch TV, I wonder why every channel is saying Schwarzenegger should be our next president.

01:17:28.000 And when you watch TV, and every channel is saying guns are bad, and you watch this stuff, and you notice the same things in the sitcom, that's in the drama, that's in the news, word for word, there's a reason for it.

01:17:40.000 Number one, the same corporations that own our government, own the military, and own the drug companies, and own the private prisons, own the media.

01:17:50.000 But at the same time, a lot of these people, individually, to get them involved in the whole ball of wax, are lavishly paid.

01:17:59.000 Lavishly.

01:18:01.000 And I have it from inside sources, good sources, that over 2,000 prominent media individuals, mainly in TV and newspapers, are paid.

01:18:13.000 And are paid to put out a certain line.

01:18:18.000 And if a talk show host won't talk about this, it's very suspect.

01:18:22.000 We've talked about this a lot on the air.

01:18:24.000 We've gone over the documents on the air.

01:18:26.000 We've had Sherman Skolnick on about this, who first uncovered this 30 years ago.

01:18:30.000 A lot of your local TV anchors and others, instead of being paid, they actually pay to get their anchor spot, a large percentage of their paycheck.

01:18:40.000 So that's kind of a mafia thing, too.

01:18:42.000 You have no idea how corrupt it is, folks.

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01:22:59.000 So see, they're going to psychologically test your children in the schools, forcibly drug them, test them for their weight, take them from you if they're overweight and you don't lose weight.

01:23:11.000 It's all about getting government into your life.

01:23:12.000 And now?

01:23:14.000 Your child draws a picture of a stick figure with a sword, stabbing someone.

01:23:17.000 Oh, look! 0.98

01:23:18.000 It's you getting stabbed! 0.99

01:23:20.000 Oh, that's it! 1.00

01:23:20.000 Oh, criminals! 1.00

01:23:21.000 We're charging you with felonies! 0.95

01:23:22.000 You're ten-year-olds!

01:23:23.000 It's all about getting you into the system.

01:23:26.000 This is terrifying!

01:23:28.000 It's horrible what's happening!

01:23:31.000 And, uh, it's just, it's so corrupt.

01:23:34.000 It's scientifically corrupted.

01:23:36.000 We've just got to say no to it, folks.

01:23:39.000 No.

01:23:40.000 You're not turning the public schools into prisons.

01:23:42.000 No matter what Dr. Phil says.

01:23:46.000 Phil, you may say we're slaves of the government.

01:23:48.000 Because you're on the propaganda channel, but we're not listening to you.

01:23:51.000 Ah, that's what a caller was mentioning earlier.

01:23:53.000 Let's go ahead and, uh, go to, uh, William!

01:23:57.000 William, welcome.

01:23:58.000 You're on the air.

01:23:59.000 Thanks a lot Alex.

01:24:00.000 The program today is really important.

01:24:03.000 All of the tyranny that is going on in America is leading to a whole new age that people don't want to go there and they better listen to you because what you're saying here and I'm sure your guest is going to say on this Chimera is pretty frightening but it's all very true and it's in the regular media.

01:24:21.000 I want to make a couple comments.

01:24:23.000 I belong to the Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the stem cell lines that the President certified which again shows its duplicity, certifies certain stem cell lines but won't certify new ones, are all contaminated so they've been proven useless.

01:24:39.000 I just got that information a couple of days ago.

01:24:41.000 So they can't be used for human stem cell research because they produce an autoimmune reaction.

01:24:47.000 They've also just come out in the fall with research that proves that these chimeras that they're creating release a virus called the PERV, which is a porcine virus that's like AIDS, Only much worse. 0.98

01:25:00.000 And if this gets out, these various viruses that are actually in animals could then be able to lock onto humans and kill millions.

01:25:08.000 Oh yeah, I mean, it's all, and top scientists have said, that it's like Russian roulette.

01:25:13.000 Right, and this is not something that's... Crossing, you know, goats with spiders, humans with pigs.

01:25:17.000 Well, they have a thing in Canada... Humans with cockroaches. 0.89

01:25:19.000 They've got a thing called BioSteel.

01:25:21.000 It's actually sheep that have milk that have spider webs in it, so they create this BioSteel product.

01:25:26.000 No, I mean, I had the CEO on, like, four years ago.

01:25:28.000 Exactly.

01:25:29.000 He's at a military base in upstate New York.

01:25:31.000 I wanted to make a comment about Arnold, because Arnold is our favorite.

01:25:36.000 in California put around six million of his own money into this initiative to forward stem cell research in California and of course Arnold being Austrian is in the perfect ill be being from the nations that started the whole research back before the Second World War.

01:25:53.000 Yes we've got to go ahead and do the cloning and we've got to move forward.

01:25:57.000 Yeah exactly and again here he is the media is showing this a decade or more ago with the sixth Um, day of violation with Arnold Schwarzenegger as a clone.

01:26:08.000 And here we now have him as governor actually pushing for, in effect, human cloning and... All the movies are about throwing it in our face!

01:26:16.000 Yeah, they do.

01:26:17.000 And I'm going to go back to, my closing statement will be Genesis 3, 22 to 24.

01:26:22.000 I'll just summarize, because you can read it yourself.

01:26:25.000 Basically, God said, I'm not going to let man reach forth and take from the tree of life and live forever in this fallen state.

01:26:31.000 And, uh, I really believe that we're now in such an amoral state that we're at the same point that Noah said when God said to Noah that he was going to destroy the earth with a flood.

01:26:41.000 We're at that same point right now because we're about to completely take over human reproduction.

01:26:46.000 Children have now lost their rights of parents to own them so that your property rights of your children is now a part of the state.

01:26:55.000 That now the state owns your children.

01:26:56.000 And in the next phase... That's not true, but they say they do.

01:26:59.000 In the next phase, of course, It's for the state to intrude to the point where they actually take over human reproduction.

01:26:59.000 Exactly.

01:27:05.000 They said they're going to do it.

01:27:06.000 I appreciate the call.

01:27:07.000 It's Dr. Deagle calling.

01:27:08.000 Good to hear from you.

01:27:10.000 Let's talk to Ron in New York.

01:27:11.000 Ron, go ahead.

01:27:13.000 Hi Alex.

01:27:14.000 Hello.

01:27:14.000 Calling from New York where you can't tell lawyer jokes.

01:27:18.000 You tell a lawyer a joke, you get arrested.

01:27:18.000 Oh, that's right.

01:27:20.000 It's hateful.

01:27:21.000 I'm acquainted with those two guys.

01:27:23.000 I wonder, maybe, if you ever want to interview them, who knows, I may be able to talk to them about it.

01:27:26.000 Yeah, I'd like to have them on.

01:27:27.000 In fact, I told my producer I want those guys on.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, they're from a legal reform group.

01:27:32.000 I think that was part of the reason why they ran into problems.

01:27:35.000 Hey, listen, we don't have to worry about people being cowed, you know, and made to be like rabbits, because now Chinese genetic engineering will turn us into rabbits. 0.94

01:27:44.000 And your guest will probably speak about that very soon.

01:27:47.000 That's an abomination.

01:27:48.000 That's an abomination in the face of the Creator, if anything.

01:27:51.000 So what are you talking about?

01:27:52.000 The latest article about crossings with rabbits?

01:27:54.000 Uh-huh.

01:27:54.000 What's wrong with that?

01:27:55.000 That's freedom.

01:27:56.000 Well, I guess we do need a few minotaurs, right?

01:27:59.000 Like in Greek mythology, the half-man, half-bull.

01:28:03.000 And if I do recall, too, if you ever read The Time Machine by H.G.

01:28:06.000 Wells, I think he went way ahead in the future and people were rabbit-like creatures, if you remember that.

01:28:12.000 Well, Wells was all for it.

01:28:13.000 He was a top New World Order strategist.

01:28:15.000 He was non-fiction book, The New World Order.

01:28:17.000 Nothing in what, 36 gets into all that.

01:28:20.000 And the PSA's, we have one here and they talk about gun crimes.

01:28:23.000 You know there's no such thing as a charge called gun crime anywhere.

01:28:27.000 Yet they talk about, they have like a judge, you have been charged with gun crime.

01:28:31.000 There's no such charge.

01:28:32.000 Which is just as bad as thought crime!

01:28:34.000 Thought crime, right.

01:28:35.000 And this is what we're coming down to.

01:28:38.000 We're in bad shape with this.

01:28:39.000 It's freedom!

01:28:43.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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01:32:11.000 to Dr. Professor David Magnus, Director for the Stanford Center for Bioethical Ethics at Stanford University about chimeras, clones, and bioethics.

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01:34:20.000 All right, we're going to go ahead and go to Professor David Magnus.

01:34:25.000 And, I mean, there's so much here.

01:34:27.000 On Infowars.com I have this National Geographic article, Animal-Human Hybrid Spark Controversy.

01:34:35.000 We've got a huge 10-page long data page full of AP articles, Washington Post articles, just all the stuff that's going on. 0.95

01:34:44.000 And I guess the way to start this this discussion doctors for me to first off thank you for coming on the show my pleasure and then secondarily about a year ago i was at a store picking up a pizza at the counter and a guy walks over and he goes i had biology in college at ut and you're a liar there's no cross-species stuff there's no such thing as spider goats He goes, I saw your TV show and you talked about it and you're crazy!

01:35:10.000 I said, well, when were you in college?

01:35:11.000 Well, 1976.

01:35:13.000 And the guy just couldn't believe it, even though I interviewed the CEO from the company in upstate New York, where they have these You know, these goats that produce this body armor.

01:35:24.000 How do you respond to somebody like that, Doctor?

01:35:26.000 Well, they're just misinformed.

01:35:28.000 Transgenics has been here for quite a while and it's something that actually sparked an important revolution commercially as well as scientifically starting way back in the 80s.

01:35:40.000 So we started off genetically engineering bacteria, including putting human genes.

01:35:43.000 So some of the first human chimeras were from this bioengineering where we put human genes into bacteria, for example, to produce human insulin.

01:35:53.000 So when diabetics take insulin, there was a big shift that took place about 20 years ago.

01:35:58.000 Previously, they'd been taking cow insulin.

01:36:00.000 Now virtually everybody who has insulin who's diabetic, their insulin is produced by bacteria that have had the human insulin gene inserted into them and they're kept in vats producing human insulin that's then purified and used for patients all over the country.

01:36:16.000 So we've been doing that for a long time.

01:36:18.000 More recently we've started putting genes into higher organisms and so in the case of the goat that can produce essentially web-like material in the milk, You're taking spider genes and introducing that into a goat, into their embryos, and that's also being done.

01:36:33.000 They now have mice that have human genes in them.

01:36:35.000 There are pigs that have human genes in them to try and, it's called sometimes humanizing them, try and make them more like us, both to create better models for disease or, in the case of pigs, to try and get organs that we're less likely to reject for transplantation purposes.

01:36:50.000 What about the danger, I've seen this in some of the articles, callers have mentioned it, of when you start splicing genes, unintended consequences, you know, giving rise to animal viruses or bacteria that affect other mammals but didn't affect us, and now giving rise to superbugs?

01:37:10.000 That's certainly a worry that everybody has about xenotransplantation.

01:37:13.000 So we're genetically engineering pigs to try and use them to put pig parts into humans.

01:37:19.000 And in fact, even that's been done for a long time.

01:37:21.000 So for heart valves, we've been putting pig heart valves into human patients for quite a while.

01:37:27.000 But as that progresses, and they're talking about putting in pig hearts into humans, as that happens, there's certainly a risk for public health.

01:37:36.000 That there may very well be viruses that right now do not affect humans that are only problems in the porcine family that will wind up infecting human beings and we may not have defenses for them.

01:37:49.000 I've heard discussions of in the future taking, say, eight genes, putting them into a human, but then saying, well, this clone isn't a human, so it doesn't have any rights, because this humanoid creature has these simian genes.

01:38:05.000 I think that's probably less likely to be an application of the technology.

01:38:09.000 I think the public wouldn't stand for it.

01:38:11.000 I think that's probably not... But I've had different bioethics groups on, even people that are on the President's Council, And they've gone over what, New Jersey passed a law where they can bring the clone up to term if they want to?

01:38:22.000 Yeah, well I think for reproductive purposes they can't. 0.98

01:38:26.000 So they can't produce a cloned human that the FDA has claimed... Yeah, but for parts they can bring it up to term.

01:38:34.000 I've read the bill on air.

01:38:35.000 If it's not, it would have to be the case that it doesn't have a central nervous system that would allow it to count as a human being.

01:38:44.000 Anything that counts as a human being, the FDA has claimed regulative authority over that.

01:38:48.000 And for any reproduction, cloning for reproductive purposes, the FDA has claimed that at the federal level they have the right to shut down any lab.

01:38:56.000 Yeah, but this wouldn't be for reproductive purposes. 0.97

01:38:58.000 In fact, I could dig the law out.

01:39:00.000 I mean, I had a bunch of experts on about this, and the way the law clearly read is this was for research.

01:39:07.000 For research purposes, it's a different story.

01:39:09.000 So if you're not aiming at reproduction, so if you're trying to just create embryos, for example, and develop them out a little bit for different research purposes, that's something that is done and continues to be done.

01:39:19.000 So where do you stand on all this?

01:39:21.000 I mean, what's your view of it?

01:39:22.000 So my view is that a lot depends on the particular application and how it's being used.

01:39:26.000 So I think everybody can agree that there are certain things that would be problematic.

01:39:30.000 So putting, you know, genetically engineering mice so that they can produce human sperm or eggs and then allowing a child to be developed under those circumstances where their parents would literally be mice.

01:39:42.000 It's something that I think everybody would agree is morally problematic.

01:39:45.000 Bringing a subhuman to term and giving birth is clearly something that should be prohibited. 1.00

01:39:50.000 On the other hand, creating embryos that have different properties so that you can study those properties at that very early stage of development outside the human body, where there's no way these things are ever going to turn into people, that I think is something that's a useful scientific value.

01:40:07.000 And the in-between is what do you do about creating animals that have human-like properties?

01:40:12.000 And there it depends on where you draw the line.

01:40:14.000 On the one hand, we want mice that will be better models so that before we do research on humans, we know that it's safe.

01:40:20.000 So that's a good thing.

01:40:21.000 On the other hand, you know, how many human brain neurons can you put into a mouse's brain before you've gone too far?

01:40:28.000 Presumably, if the mice start complaining, you went way too far.

01:40:34.000 So, drawing those lines about what kind of entity you've got is something that's going to take a lot of careful deliberation.

01:40:40.000 What about chimera?

01:40:41.000 I mean, I'm reading here that it can be more than two species.

01:40:46.000 I mean, how many species' genetics have they put into one creature?

01:40:50.000 Well, you could take individual cells from a lot of different creatures and the limitations now are probably mostly technical ones.

01:40:56.000 So you could probably put in, you could have combined transgenics with putting in different cells into embryos.

01:41:03.000 So there's all kinds of ways in which these technologies could be combined together in different ways to reduce something that has some features of this and some features of that.

01:41:11.000 And again, to me the question is, why are you doing it?

01:41:13.000 Is there a good reason for doing it?

01:41:15.000 What are the risks?

01:41:16.000 What could happen as a result of it?

01:41:18.000 There's a group of people who don't like any of this, including any transgenics on the grounds that, you know, species are inviolable, that these are categories that should not be monkeyed with.

01:41:30.000 But the IBM Human Genome Project, I've talked to some of their people, they've got the attitude that all mutation is natural.

01:41:37.000 In the scheme of things, we are simply an arm of evolution in that we are accelerating it, and anything that rises from human activity is, hence, already natural.

01:41:45.000 And I think that's very, very dangerous.

01:41:47.000 And again, it's Russian roulette.

01:41:48.000 They have no idea what any of this is going to cause, what type of domino effect this can create.

01:41:53.000 It's insanity.

01:41:55.000 Well, I think I tend to take a middle ground.

01:41:57.000 So on the one hand, I would say I don't think we should open the floodgates.

01:42:01.000 They're correct that mutation is natural and that we are an offshoot of evolution.

01:42:05.000 I don't think it falls from that that anything we do is okay.

01:42:08.000 That seems to me is a specious argument.

01:42:10.000 On the other hand, I don't think that we should say that there are any lines that say we can't monkey with anything.

01:42:16.000 There are certain things that are sacrosanct.

01:42:17.000 I think you have to look at what the implications are.

01:42:20.000 I don't think anybody would want to go back to say, you know, bacteria are sacrosanct and we shouldn't genetically engineer them and put genes in there.

01:42:27.000 It's been very useful for diabetics and has made a lot of lives better that we've been able to create medications and biologics and do a lot of things.

01:42:34.000 So what does your center mainly do?

01:42:36.000 I mean, you're the director of the Stanford Center for Biomedical Ethics at the Stanford University.

01:42:40.000 I mean, what do you mainly do?

01:42:42.000 We spend our time doing four main activities.

01:42:45.000 One, we do a lot of research on a range of issues in ethics, so we spend a lot of time dealing with issues in genetics, dealing issues with neuroethics, end-of-life issues, stem cell research, and so we have a lot of people doing both empirical research, Well, you're an expert on this.

01:43:04.000 Let me ask you this question.

01:43:05.000 I mean, I've seen the reports, the scientific reports, but you can find a report saying whatever you want.

01:43:10.000 In your opinion, is it true that, say, you know, full-grown female breast tissue is a stem cell source, in many cases is even better than fetal tissue?

01:43:21.000 I think it's way too early to know that right now.

01:43:23.000 A lot of studies, I'm sure you've seen the studies, saying that.

01:43:26.000 What do you think of those studies?

01:43:28.000 I think at this point, people are doing research, but it's still very early.

01:43:32.000 Why the obsession with the fetal stem cell?

01:43:36.000 It's a source of tissue.

01:43:37.000 One reason is that fetal tissue is usable under NIH guidelines, whereas embryonic stem cell research, for example, is not.

01:43:44.000 So there's a line that can be drawn that way.

01:43:49.000 But is it because the tissue of a developing human is so malleable?

01:43:54.000 In terms of comparing that to adult stem cells, yes, that's correct.

01:43:59.000 So there are advantages to using some of those cells.

01:44:03.000 They can differentiate a little bit more easily.

01:44:05.000 They don't have the breadth of differentiation ability that an embryonic stem cell would have.

01:44:11.000 That is an excellent question.

01:44:12.000 can give rise to stem cells that seem to be easier to develop because they're part of an organism that is developing. - But doesn't the fetal stem cell then accelerate the risk because of its unstable nature to developing, you know, higher chances of some viral or bacterial spinoff? - That is an excellent question.

01:44:31.000 So the issue about whether or not these things will turn out to be safe or unsafe in humans, to what extent, I think is a really important question But we know what's going on!

01:44:41.000 Look, I mean, we know there's hundreds of secret laboratories.

01:44:44.000 The Russians, the Germans, the Saudis, the U.S.

01:44:47.000 government.

01:44:49.000 I mean, during the break, when I first talked to you, I said, what about secret programs?

01:44:52.000 I mean, you know there's secret programs.

01:44:54.000 Well, actually, if they're secret, obviously I don't have knowledge of them.

01:44:57.000 They must be pretty big, because I know a lot of doctors that they've tried to recruit into them.

01:45:01.000 I know the scientists that have been in them.

01:45:02.000 I mean, my dad's an oral surgeon.

01:45:04.000 They tried to recruit him into one back in the 80s.

01:45:06.000 I mean, this must be a giant program.

01:45:09.000 All I can do is work on the programs and the research that I know about.

01:45:13.000 So, the research that I know about, where people are proposing to do research using fetal stem cells, I think we have to look really carefully.

01:45:21.000 There are some guidelines and regulatory guidelines in place for how those tissues are to be used.

01:45:26.000 If they're going to do these tests, shouldn't they do them in a level 4 facility?

01:45:31.000 It depends on what the material is.

01:45:33.000 I think for some of it, it's not so much that this is a risk of something getting out in contamination, which is what a level 4 security would require.

01:45:39.000 But they don't know!

01:45:40.000 They don't know what this could do.

01:45:41.000 Well, if you're using fetal stem cells from a human, I'm much more worried about not anything spreading to other people.

01:45:50.000 I'm more worried about what this will do when you introduce it.

01:45:52.000 Well, look, here's the thing, Doctor.

01:45:53.000 You sound like a nice, nice person, Doctor, Professor, you know, but this is the problem.

01:45:58.000 This is a slippery slope.

01:45:59.000 There's no way you can go butt down.

01:46:01.000 It's going to be unlimited unless it's restricted.

01:46:04.000 The elite wants the life extension.

01:46:05.000 The general public wants it.

01:46:07.000 And it's going to be done.

01:46:08.000 And I see no end to it.

01:46:10.000 And it's just going to go absolutely wild.

01:46:12.000 And then, you know, this argument for global government is, well, we've got to stop third world countries from, you know, uncontrolled Well, I guess the way I look at it is it's a balancing act. 1.00

01:46:20.000 pandora's box that just goes down downhill then i see the proponents for global government out supporting and helping to to deliver these systems of third-world countries almost like they're trying to create this crisis well i guess the way i look at it is it's a balancing act and the judeo-christian religious tradition and we were given obligations to both preserve the garden and to tend the garden so we have this tension between our desire to try and maintain the world and desire to try to improve the world

01:46:49.000 I think with all this research, we always have to do this balancing act between making sure that we're not going so far that we've had too much of an instrumental view of the world or gone too far in terms of the damage that we might do.

01:47:01.000 On the other hand, we have an obligation to try and pursue things that might wind up helping people live better, happier, healthier lives.

01:47:07.000 Well, Doctor, what I parallel it with is Monsanto.

01:47:13.000 And others.

01:47:13.000 I mean, they really are taking plants that don't reproduce.

01:47:18.000 They really are planting experimental plants open air.

01:47:20.000 They have been caught spreading into other species of plant and causing mutations and big problems.

01:47:26.000 And they're trying to corner the market on seeds and plant reproduction, which is actually fundamentally altering the biosphere.

01:47:35.000 So out of the gates!

01:47:37.000 It's just wildly out of control and it's very destructive.

01:47:42.000 I think those are exactly the right questions to be looking at.

01:47:45.000 If a company is developing a technology, are there some good uses of the technology?

01:47:49.000 Possibly.

01:47:50.000 Are there ways in which it can be misused and fall into the hands which are going to abuse the technology?

01:47:57.000 But they own the courts.

01:47:58.000 Nothing happens to them.

01:48:03.000 Again, all we can do is if we see examples where corporations have behaved badly, and I guess I disagree, I'm more optimistic.

01:48:10.000 When Monsanto first was considering buying Pine and Land that developed the Terminator technology, in the end they gave up the purchase of that and gave up the use of Terminator technology on the grounds of the huge backlash that was largely organized by an NGO at the time called Raffi. 0.69

01:48:27.000 So, the fact that there are, there was people saying... Well, the backlash was Europe and Africa and Latin America and Asia wouldn't buy their garbage.

01:48:36.000 Well, I think that's also part of the backlash.

01:48:38.000 So, the NGOs who were raising these concerns had a huge impact in Europe and in other places.

01:48:43.000 The backlash didn't happen just in Europe, though.

01:48:45.000 It happened for the Terminator.

01:48:47.000 It happened in the U.S.

01:48:48.000 as well.

01:48:49.000 And it forced the company to back off from it.

01:48:51.000 I think French farmers burning buildings down had the biggest effect.

01:48:54.000 It's not just that.

01:48:55.000 Look, the Monsanto's New Leaf Potato, a genetically engineered potato, they wound up completely flopping because McDonald's decided they weren't going to buy them because they were worried about public response to that, even within the U.S.

01:49:07.000 Well, that is optimistic.

01:49:08.000 So it really does show.

01:49:08.000 You're right.

01:49:11.000 My point is, is that they're at least, you know, they're trying it, they're pushing it, they never stop, they always look for some new... It's like a rat, it always tries to find a new way to get in.

01:49:19.000 But there's... anybody who sells anything to the public has to be concerned about public backlash.

01:49:25.000 And so those of us who work with the public, you know, can have an influence.

01:49:29.000 Well, Doctor, I've got a few other questions for you about chimeras and cross-species engineering, all of this on the other side. 0.99

01:49:36.000 I want to just get some other examples from your expertise.

01:49:39.000 We appreciate you joining us, so please stay with us.

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01:53:01.000 That's right, the Genesis Network.

01:53:05.000 We're talking to Dr. David Magnus, Director of the Stanford Center for Bioethical Ethics at Stanford University about chimeras, clones, bioethics.

01:53:14.000 Can you give us the particular website for the biomedical group that you're ahead of?

01:53:19.000 Sure.

01:53:19.000 We're at www.scbe.stanford.edu.

01:53:27.000 We had a great discussion during the break.

01:53:29.000 I seem to always do that.

01:53:29.000 It's http.scbe.stanford.edu.

01:53:35.000 Or just type in Dr. David Magnus, and I'm sure it will pop up too.

01:53:39.000 Yep, for sure.

01:53:41.000 Or just the Center for Biomedical Ethics or Stanford University Bioethics.

01:53:46.000 Probably going to forget.

01:53:47.000 Now, we had a great discussion during the break.

01:53:49.000 I seem to always do that.

01:53:50.000 But I was asking you how many different types of human chimeras there are versus chimeras, period, and then some other points you were making.

01:53:58.000 There are actually a lot of them, and again, it depends on how you define them.

01:54:02.000 If you count transgenics, that is organisms that have human genes that have been put into them, basically all biotech organisms are chimeras.

01:54:10.000 So the whole biotech industry is basically genetically engineered bacteria that have human genes in them to produce human proteins that can be useful for different purposes.

01:54:19.000 And they're beginning to do this for crops, which I think raise much, much more difficult issues and questions.

01:54:24.000 The safety record for using genetically engineered bacteria is actually pretty good, but I think a lot of us are worried about what happens when you start genetically engineering crops, like corn, for example, and you put human genes in them to have them express human clonal antibodies.

01:54:40.000 And that is starting to happen.

01:54:42.000 And there have already been a couple of scares where it looked like we very nearly had, you know, human pharmaceutical products essentially enter into the food supply.

01:54:52.000 Well, that was prote-gene.

01:54:54.000 Prote-gene, correct.

01:54:55.000 And they had the AIDS virus producing corn.

01:54:59.000 I don't think it was the AIDS, it was a monoclonal antibody.

01:55:02.000 Well, it had, I mean, it said pig virus, one variety had live pig virus, the other was HIV, a protein shell, and then a bunch of other things.

01:55:12.000 And they had a couple of different scares, one in Nebraska and one in Iowa.

01:55:16.000 And obviously I and a lot of other people think that the idea of having an open pollinator like corn genetically engineered to have something that's not approved for human consumption in states and areas where you've got a lot of commercial agriculture with the same organism is not a very good idea.

01:55:34.000 But what were they thinking, open air and 96 sites?

01:55:40.000 They put in some different confinement techniques that they hoped would be able to work.

01:55:47.000 They have physical confinement methods so they keep the field somewhat separate.

01:55:52.000 They also have a lot of de-tasseling that takes place.

01:55:57.000 They have different things that they put in place to try and make sure that there's segregation of everything that takes place.

01:56:03.000 But all those things are prone to error.

01:56:05.000 We're not going to stop bees from getting on those.

01:56:08.000 Now, just a final question for you, and I appreciate you joining us.

01:56:12.000 Trying to give people a view of how serious all this is.

01:56:15.000 What do you think in the next 20 years the chance is of a weaponized, genetic, even race-specific bioweapon being released?

01:56:25.000 20 years?

01:56:26.000 I don't know if it'll happen in 20 years.

01:56:30.000 I think that there will be a biological weapon using genetic engineering technology at some point in the future.

01:56:36.000 I don't know if it's 20 years.

01:56:38.000 That's actually not that far away.

01:56:41.000 It's really hard to know exactly when, 20 years, 30 years, at some point that is coming down the pike.

01:56:47.000 The only thing we can hope on the upside is that researchers who are doing research with genetic engineering techniques will have the means and the technology to be able to do that.

01:56:54.000 But South Africa successfully produced some of this.

01:56:58.000 Well, again, everything depends on what you mean.

01:57:00.000 So there are bioweapons that exist now, but if you're talking about a really sophisticated, genetically engineered bioweapon, and again, we were talking about chimeras, I mean, there are people doing research where they do combine smallpox with other kinds of diseases to come up there are people doing research where they do combine smallpox with other kinds of diseases to I think there were ways before that's going to ever be weaponized in the hands of somebody who would use it, but it probably is just a matter of time.

01:57:26.000 We can only hope that our researchers are able to stay ahead of the game so that we're able to combat it when the time comes.

01:57:31.000 All right.

01:57:32.000 Well, doctor, thank you for coming on the broadcast with us.

01:57:34.000 My pleasure.

01:57:35.000 Take care.

01:57:36.000 Bye-bye.

01:57:36.000 Your calls, a ton of news, coming up in just 70 seconds of the third hour.

01:57:43.000 Hello!

01:57:43.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen.

01:58:11.000 Let's get ready to rumble! 0.88

01:58:17.000 It is Friday, TGIF.

01:58:20.000 We're in the zone.

01:58:22.000 Final 59 minutes of this transmission against tyranny.

01:58:27.000 I want to love the phone lines up and take lots of your calls at 1-800-259-9231.

01:58:30.000 1-800-259-9231 and we'll get you up and on the air.

01:58:36.000 Talking about chimeras, cross PC stuff going on.

01:58:43.000 Really dangerous stuff happening.

01:58:44.000 With just another one of these top scientists who just kind of thinks it's alright and he's a friendly guy so it must all be good.

01:58:51.000 Well, we need to keep our eyes on it, but we'll be alright.

01:58:54.000 Interesting interview last hour.

01:58:56.000 You're welcome to comment on that.

01:58:58.000 But I want to get back into see-through wall radar.

01:59:04.000 Could have law enforcement applications.

01:59:07.000 The police looking for your walls.

01:59:09.000 U.S.

01:59:09.000 edges closer to national ID card.

01:59:12.000 They always do this.

01:59:14.000 After they pass something, then they start telling you, well, maybe we just passed the national ID card.

01:59:19.000 You can call it that if you'd like, but if you want to rationalize it and make excuses for it, if you don't want to face it, maybe it isn't.

01:59:28.000 And that's the propaganda that makes it so easy to be a slave.

01:59:32.000 Also, U.S.

01:59:32.000 terror program recruiting truckers, Associated Press.

01:59:35.000 And that's not all, and it's not just for terror.

01:59:38.000 North Korea has bought nuclear bomb, ABC News reporting.

01:59:42.000 And it turns out, well, you do not want to miss this, who they think gave it to them, one of our best little friends as usual out there, engaging in this type of behavior.

01:59:55.000 And we will also get into, well, China economists are losing faith in the dollar, and if China drops the dollar, we're in big, big Big trouble.

02:00:11.000 And now they're saying U.S.

02:00:12.000 coptered down in Iraq using service-to-air missiles out of the daily dispatch.

02:00:18.000 And Ashcroft's saying a nuke threat is the largest danger to America.

02:00:23.000 And he's very concerned about that.

02:00:25.000 But if you give up all of your rights to him, or his new buddy, Alberto George Bush's bubble log, Gonzales, then everything will be alright.

02:00:37.000 Out of being a slave comes freedom.

02:00:40.000 is the new Orwellian situation uh... that uh... we're all basically basically being sold and uh... at the same time uh... we will get into Russian officers helped in plot to seize Easland School Basilan School London Independent and as we already knew flashback Russian school siege bears hallmarks of potential state PSYOP

02:01:10.000 And hey, if our government could pull off Columbine and sell the people, why couldn't Putin? 0.83

02:01:14.000 And as usual, Putin, who's been caught blowing up his own buildings as a pretext for control, is now more and more evidence pointing directly at government being involved behind that as well.

02:01:27.000 Blair defends House arrest plan and martial law plan for England.

02:01:31.000 That is from the BBC.

02:01:33.000 London Telegraph also reporting behind the rhetoric, return of internment camps in Britain.

02:01:38.000 They're just openly announcing Concentration camps, and Gitmo soldier details sexual tactics, Associated Press.

02:01:46.000 Now, Gitmo soldiers are going public and talking about the sexual pervert behavior.

02:01:53.000 The torture seems to be all connected to the classic serial killer pervert type activity.

02:01:58.000 And that's out of the Associated Press, all part of the new Christian conservatism that is sweeping the nation. 0.62

02:02:05.000 And, uh, San Francisco bans smoking in public areas and they're firing people private corporations are that smoke in their own time at home.

02:02:15.000 And draconian terror powers in England aren't just to target terrorists, London Telegraph, they're to target suspects' families as well.

02:02:24.000 More mad cow popping up.

02:02:26.000 Don't worry, the government says it's fine.

02:02:28.000 So, don't, uh, don't, uh, worry about that.

02:02:32.000 Mad cow disease found in French goats.

02:02:35.000 Yeah, it could mean a lot of species.

02:02:36.000 I don't like you to know about that.

02:02:39.000 It's all coming up after we take some calls on the other side of this quick break.

02:02:43.000 Stay with us.

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02:05:56.000 Welcome back, my friends.

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02:06:55.000 Let me be a little bit judicious about this.

02:07:00.000 Let me try to cover a few articles first.

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02:07:12.000 elapses and the broadcast is over because it is nine minutes, 30 seconds into this third hour.

02:07:19.000 We're on the 28th of January, 2005, year of our Lord.

02:07:24.000 Well, that's really politically incorrect.

02:07:27.000 See-through wall radar could have law enforcement applications.

02:07:33.000 Military researchers are developing a high-tech radar system that can see through walls, locating and tracking hidden enemies, hostage takers, or even avalanche victims buried under mounds of snow.

02:07:47.000 Oh.

02:07:48.000 Thank you.

02:07:49.000 Canadian, British, and European and U.S.

02:07:51.000 scientists are racing to perfect the revolutionary 3D technology, which can create images of individuals, detail a room's layout, or even detect buried landmines.

02:08:01.000 Success could mean millions of dollars in revenues and licensing fees.

02:08:05.000 In Canada's case, the Defence Research and Development Canada, an agency of the Defence Department.

02:08:10.000 There's a lot of interest in it, said David de Philpottepo, a civilian researcher and the project's chief scientist.

02:08:18.000 We're still in the early days, and there are still a lot of technological challenges.

02:08:23.000 There's still a lot of risk, but that's what R&D is all about.

02:08:28.000 You know, I love these articles that come out five, six years after the stuff's already in use, saying we're developing the 3D technology.

02:08:36.000 A vastly scaled back power model of it, where it's almost no power.

02:08:41.000 The systems that look through your clothes, you've seen the images on TV of the naked woman, the naked man.

02:08:45.000 I mean, right down to the moles on their skin, to the pores on their skin.

02:08:51.000 I mean, the vision is crisper than actual what you would see with your binocular vision.

02:08:58.000 in your color binocular vision.

02:09:00.000 I mean, it's that crisp, and they can turn it up, and with these systems, the airports even look beneath the skin.

02:09:09.000 Yes.

02:09:10.000 But, uh, the high-powered systems, I mean, I've got Defense Department press releases five years ago where they brag, oh, in major cities like Chicago, New York, L.A., Houston, a part of a Defense Department program, we've given free ground penetrating radar to the helicopters, and the last demonstrations have been on tech TV.

02:09:28.000 Where it just shows them looking right through your walls.

02:09:30.000 It's like flying over a house and you see a black and white image of the chairs and the beds and the dining room table and people walking around.

02:09:41.000 And it's not very crisp, but you can see what's going on quite nicely.

02:09:48.000 It's kind of like looking at somebody through 20 feet of water or something.

02:09:54.000 But I guess by perfecting it where it's like super crisp, Um, but, um, uh, just, folks, I mean, it's already on these helicopters, and I haven't looked this up in a few years, I would imagine.

02:10:07.000 Uh, I've seen a few articles where the funding's increased and they put it on some more helicopters.

02:10:11.000 I don't know how many helicopters they have on in our cities or how many aircraft, uh, but, uh, I know that they said something like 80-something FBI Cessnas have it.

02:10:20.000 Yeah, I just remembered that, and those are flying around looking for terrorists.

02:10:24.000 Uh, sure, they're looking for terrorists.

02:10:26.000 You look at all these cases of quote, fighting terrorism, they then expand out into everything is terrorism.

02:10:32.000 Here's another case of the government announcing something after it's done.

02:10:37.000 U.S.

02:10:37.000 Edges Closer to National ID Card, Knight Ridder Newspapers.

02:10:40.000 The government agent quickens his step, eyeing his subject with great suspicion.

02:10:46.000 Your papers please, he asks.

02:10:48.000 Extending a hand to accept a government issued identification card.

02:10:53.000 Surreal, as seen from a movie?

02:10:55.000 Maybe, and then again.

02:10:56.000 The United States has to step closer towards the idea of a National Identification Card.

02:11:03.000 Last month, when Congress passed the Intelligence Reform Legislation, tucked into the provision was a mandate calling for national regulations for driver's licenses and other forms of identification.

02:11:13.000 Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois Democrat, who helped craft legislation, is among those who insist the National ID Card is not in the works.

02:11:19.000 Durbin realizes the fear a National ID Card ignites.

02:11:22.000 So this is the new America. 0.70

02:11:26.000 Well, they go, being forcibly psychologically tested and forcibly drugged, whether you like it or not, which everyone up to 18 is going to have done to them now, unless we resist, that's not tyranny, that's new freedom!

02:11:38.000 And it's the same thing here.

02:11:40.000 I read the bill on air at least five times, I had Ron Paul on, Congressman, Tom Tancreo on, Congressman, Uh, it is a National ID card.

02:11:47.000 They already, 42 states already had it.

02:11:50.000 Last time I checked it was up to 48 were putting it in.

02:11:52.000 The last, uh, six or seven.

02:11:54.000 And, uh, this is a law where every state has the same thumbprint, the same digital photo, the same face scan.

02:11:59.000 And it all hooks already into the federal NCIC.

02:12:02.000 It was already there.

02:12:03.000 Now it's just the law!

02:12:05.000 And it's passed and they're doing it!

02:12:08.000 And then a week after that...

02:12:11.000 Actually, four weeks after that, last week, Ridge runs off to England and gives a big speech, and it's BBC, AP, everywhere, WORLD ID cards!

02:12:19.000 We need WORLD identification standards!

02:12:21.000 All in the same database, which they already set up, called Interpol.

02:12:25.000 And then Europe announces, and the U.S.

02:12:26.000 announces, okay, we'll all standardize our passports for the next two months, and now they're announcing it's gonna happen!

02:12:31.000 And the contracts are out, and they're doing it!

02:12:33.000 It's just the same thing!

02:12:36.000 But then when they announce it to you, and again, people argue with me, there'll never be an ID card, I won't put up with it.

02:12:41.000 I've been telling you for six, seven years, and I went in and got arrested calling it a national ID card in 97 in my first film, America Destroyed by Design.

02:12:49.000 And I go in there and I lay out, this is hooked into the NCIC, here's the federal document, here's the executive order, I hold it up to the police, I hand out hundreds of copies in the DMV, we have a crowd of over a hundred protesters that took it over, basically.

02:13:03.000 And so we had it then in Texas, and now it's hooked in at the grocery stores where they put the thumb scanners in.

02:13:08.000 It goes right into it, or when you go to buy beer or cigarettes at the Diamond Shamrock, you know, and the other gas stations, they swipe your card, even if you're an old man or old lady, and it instantly goes into the state police department, it's hooked into the feds and checks you for warrants, or if it isn't, or if it's exempt, they say sorry!

02:13:26.000 And soon it's going to be everything.

02:13:27.000 And, oh, now you want some cold medicine, you gotta do it.

02:13:30.000 See?

02:13:30.000 And, oh, now it's from the National Sales Tax.

02:13:32.000 And now it's... And people are going to argue with me.

02:13:35.000 I'm already getting emails going, but you won't call in.

02:13:37.000 Going, you know, it's not a national ID card.

02:13:41.000 I mean, they're saying some could call it that.

02:13:45.000 You'll just have to have it to have a job.

02:13:47.000 It's not a national ID card.

02:13:49.000 I mean, besides, I heard Michael Wiener say on the radio that it's to stop illegal aliens. 0.97

02:13:56.000 The illegal aliens have a waiver in the bill! 1.00

02:14:00.000 Oh, I don't want to rant anymore about this.

02:14:02.000 Last news article, then I'll go to your calls.

02:14:07.000 terror program recruiting truckers.

02:14:07.000 U.S.

02:14:10.000 Now, again, Dick Armey left office a couple years ago, and he fought the T.I.P.S.

02:14:17.000 program, and he stood up against it.

02:14:19.000 So then it was called AmeriCorps as a division of SecurCorps.

02:14:23.000 So when FEMA has a drill in your town, they'll call it part of the CitizenCorps.

02:14:26.000 They've got all these different names.

02:14:28.000 They actually doubled the funding and since then doubled it again.

02:14:30.000 So I guess it's quadrupled since then.

02:14:31.000 Since they got rid of the program.

02:14:34.000 Total Information Awareness as well.

02:14:35.000 They just doubled that.

02:14:37.000 We've confirmed.

02:14:38.000 But they changed the name.

02:14:41.000 So now today, USA Today is reporting on it as well as Associated Press.

02:14:45.000 U.S. 1.00

02:14:45.000 Terror Program Recruiting Fuckers! 1.00

02:14:48.000 And I just so happen to have one of the manuals sent to me a year ago, when the program didn't even supposedly exist, hoping to take advantage of alert eyes along the nation's highways, the government is trying to enlist more truckers, I guess the 450,000 of last year isn't enough, in the battle against terrorism. 0.98

02:15:04.000 The Alexandria, Virginia-based Highway Watch, started by the American Trucking Association in 98, and funded since 2002, see, with Homeland Security money, focuses on safety and security.

02:15:15.000 Spokesman John Willard said the volunteer program has received a total of about 40 million.

02:15:20.000 All 50 states have active programs now.

02:15:22.000 He said Highway Watch continues to seek trained members.

02:15:26.000 And it goes on to say, we fight terror and crime.

02:15:29.000 And in the manual, you see a man walking on the side of the road with a backpack.

02:15:33.000 Call the police immediately.

02:15:35.000 You see a man and woman arguing by a car.

02:15:38.000 You may not believe that that's illegal, but it's actually verbal abuse.

02:15:42.000 Call police.

02:15:43.000 Do you see someone smoking something that doesn't look like a cigarette in their car?

02:15:47.000 Call the police.

02:15:48.000 Do you see someone talking on a cell phone in states where they're prohibited?

02:15:52.000 Call the police.

02:15:53.000 I mean, it's not just, you know, crime-type stuff like, if you see a woman tied up in a car, call the police.

02:15:58.000 That'd be totally reasonable.

02:16:00.000 But no, no, no.

02:16:00.000 See, when they do these spy programs, it's always, it's for terrorism, man!

02:16:06.000 Then the trucking groups get insurance discounts and all this stuff that they send their truck drivers to these offices.

02:16:13.000 And then they've let them know that if they've got this card, they're going to be let off a little easier at the weigh stations.

02:16:19.000 And they're going to have a rating on their card.

02:16:23.000 Now they're going to put thumb scanners in all the truck stops where the truck drivers have to thumb scan from point to point to make sure they're not driving while they're tired.

02:16:30.000 But see, so first they enslave the truck drivers, then make them be little police state minions, and then they're going to have their little ID cards, which has already been implemented, of what type of driver they are, who they've reported, and so if you're a good little tattletale, oh, you're going to get special treatment, and then only your truck can survive, your business survive, and this cutthroat business, if you're a good little tattletale.

02:16:53.000 So see, that's like Nazi Germany.

02:16:55.000 It wasn't just in Nazi Germany that it was a police state.

02:16:58.000 You had to be part of it to be in business.

02:17:01.000 And then you could also get your business competition in trouble by reporting on them and doing other things.

02:17:07.000 So it's just basically everybody tattling on each other.

02:17:14.000 Tips is already going on under new names everywhere.

02:17:16.000 The cable men, the carpet guys, everybody.

02:17:18.000 Pell-Mell, Tattletail, Super Nazi Society. 0.80

02:17:21.000 Has nothing to do with terrorism.

02:17:23.000 Because they know there's no real terrorism going on.

02:17:27.000 So it's really all just about getting truck drivers a tattle on everyone. 0.99

02:17:33.000 And I don't think truck drivers are stupid. 0.96

02:17:35.000 A lot of them aren't going to go along with it. 0.98

02:17:37.000 And so they're going to be persecuted. 1.00

02:17:39.000 And the Nazis will rise to the top like scum always does. 0.99

02:17:42.000 We'll be right back with your calls. 0.98

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02:21:55.000 All right, let's go to the calls.

02:21:59.000 Frank in Louisiana.

02:22:02.000 His own country down there.

02:22:03.000 What's going on, Frank?

02:22:05.000 Oh, we're just enjoying the cool weather down here and whatnot.

02:22:08.000 But, Alex, last week I saw something very disturbing.

02:22:13.000 They had the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, and they had the same old worn-out expressions of never again.

02:22:23.000 And whenever they say that, it aggravates me because I said, you know, America's baby extermination camps have literally dwarfed what they did in the Third Reich.

02:22:34.000 Isn't it over like 54 million right now?

02:22:36.000 My figures have told me it's probably somewhere between 70 and 80 million.

02:22:41.000 But they admit it's 54 million as of last year.

02:22:44.000 I haven't seen the numbers lately.

02:22:47.000 No, and Stalin killed 50 million, Mao killed 60 million, and it's never discussed, and I mean, frankly, I'm tired of it.

02:22:54.000 Well, the thing about it is, you know, Elie Wiesel is a very suspicious character, but I was thinking of the analogies, and you talked about it earlier, before this last break, and it was perfect, because, you know, the Nazis had war after war, enemy after enemy, And they justified it by establishing everything was done for the fatherland. 0.88

02:23:16.000 Everything was the fatherland.

02:23:18.000 They implemented gun control, which our 1968 gun control laws You know, I understand we're taking word for word.

02:23:26.000 They're an exact translation.

02:23:27.000 I even have the letter from the Library of Congress for Senator Dodd, the late Senator Dodd, not the current one.

02:23:34.000 And it's word for word, a translation.

02:23:36.000 Two words are changed.

02:23:38.000 And the Nazis, Hitler, like the Marxists in the East, set up the Christian church, the state church, Hitler called his the Reich Church. 0.76

02:23:49.000 Jara wrote about it in the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

02:23:52.000 And any church that didn't follow orders, they were sent to the concentration camps.

02:23:57.000 Well, now we're going to have our new patriotic church under a new freedom initiative, and Hillary has just endorsed it, so it must be good!

02:24:05.000 Well, it's a 501c3, it's a state church, so anybody who says on the left, we need a separation of church and state, say, you're full of baloney, we've been having this for decades, and you don't say anything about it.

02:24:16.000 And then they have the child schools, the Hitler Youth Program. 0.99

02:24:19.000 Where, when the Americans liberated Germany, they said that those children were so ignorant, were so illiterate, were so indoctrinated in Nazi history, that it was amazing that these children were so dumb. 0.95

02:24:32.000 And now we have changed our public schools into government schools, which is the 10th plank of the Communist Manifesto. 0.94

02:24:39.000 And the funny thing about it, or even the sicker thing about it, is that the Gelenorg, Named after Reinhard Gellin, who predated the SS Nazis. 0.68

02:24:50.000 He was part of the German intelligence, the Adler, Adler, I think they call it, yes.

02:24:57.000 And it was in Operation Sunshine that they took the same Nazis and put them into the US spy service. 0.90

02:25:04.000 With Alan Dulles writing a letter persuading Truman to take on the Gellin org on Gellin's own terms.

02:25:12.000 And what they did was everything they did in Nazi Germany, They did in America. 0.84

02:25:17.000 Well, let's just give our rights up to the government and everything will be alright.

02:25:20.000 Oh, yes.

02:25:21.000 But they were financed by the same identical banking trust out of New York and other places.

02:25:26.000 The Rockefeller interests were all over the place.

02:25:29.000 No, no, that's the thing is that when you talk about Rothschilds or somebody, they'll say you're being anti-Semitic.

02:25:34.000 How are they even Jews? 1.00

02:25:35.000 I mean, every time we catch them, they're funding Nazis. 0.82

02:25:38.000 People aren't Jews. 0.98

02:25:39.000 They just hide behind that.

02:25:41.000 Not only that, but you know, I know that you're pro-Semitic. 0.95

02:25:45.000 I'm pro-Semitic. 1.00

02:25:45.000 I'm pro-human being. 1.00

02:25:48.000 Well, I'm pro-anybody, and the point is, it's like you've got phony Christians, you've got phony Jews, you've got phony black people, whatever. 0.99

02:25:56.000 You've got evil people, and they all hide behind these group names, and then get the group a lot of times to follow them, thinking they're supporting them, when they're really slitting their throat! 0.99

02:26:04.000 That's exactly what's happening.

02:26:06.000 I mean, you know, when they set up the Marxist welfare plantation, it was a control mechanism.

02:26:12.000 And now look at it.

02:26:12.000 Your child's overweight.

02:26:13.000 They're going to take them from you.

02:26:14.000 Your child draws a stick figure with a sword.

02:26:16.000 They're going to take them from you.

02:26:18.000 I mean, it's a hellish system, man.

02:26:19.000 They are building a nightmare.

02:26:20.000 Thanks for the call.

02:26:21.000 Okay, buddy.

02:26:21.000 I appreciate it.

02:26:22.000 Ed in Utah.

02:26:23.000 You're on the air.

02:26:23.000 Go ahead, Ed.

02:26:24.000 Yeah, thanks a lot, Alex.

02:26:26.000 Listen, I want to follow up on just what you were saying there about different camps and different things coming.

02:26:33.000 I have a comment on Mikhail Chertoff.

02:26:36.000 I know you discussed him a little bit, the Homeland Security Secretary now under Bush.

02:26:40.000 Yeah, Mikhail Chertov, yeah.

02:26:41.000 Yeah, Mikhail.

02:26:43.000 The thing of it is, Alex, it's interesting you brought up the Israeli factor here, or your previous caller did.

02:26:50.000 I do want to say this, that one of his targets was David Duke.

02:26:55.000 And one of his rewards, of course, was to get a federal judgeship.

02:26:58.000 He went after both Jim Traficant and David Duke as a federal prosecutor.

02:27:02.000 But he's also the official that released 140 Israeli Mossad spies in the days after 9-11.

02:27:08.000 Excuse me, it took him a couple of months to get the clearance from Ashcroft to do this.

02:27:13.000 But the reason I bring this up is that David Duke, in his book, Jewish Supremacism, Talks about how immoral it is that we harp only on the Jewish suffering from World War II and forget what you just pointed out, the 50 million Christian peasants slaughtered by Jewish Bolsheviks.

02:27:30.000 Well, now hold on.

02:27:31.000 We'll have to talk about this after the break.

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02:30:59.000 Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again.

02:31:02.000 And we're going to go back to Ed in just a second.

02:31:06.000 I think it's very destructive to constantly say that the New World Order is a Jewish conspiracy.

02:31:16.000 Certainly there are Jews in the New World Order. 1.00

02:31:21.000 And there are many other groups in the New World Order.

02:31:24.000 There are organized crime syndicates.

02:31:26.000 And so I look at it as crime syndicates.

02:31:30.000 And crime syndicates normally congeal around racial lines, or ethnic lines, or regional lines.

02:31:38.000 And so, people have gotten pretty good that back when we were criticizing the Chinese Mafia in this country, there were actually big TV, you know, Dateline Tonight. 0.91

02:31:47.000 There was a backlash against Chinese immigrants, and supposed triad gangs, racist!

02:31:53.000 Well no, I'm not against Chinese people, I'm against Chinese Mafia. 1.00

02:31:57.000 And there is a Jewish Mafia, and it's big, Just like there's an Italian Mafia that's big, and they're both dwarfed by the good ol' boy Wasp Mob that Tony Montana talks about in Scarface. 0.88

02:32:15.000 It's actually pretty accurate when he says... He's watching a TV ad for a bank.

02:32:20.000 It's a big bank he's laundered money in, but it's how loving and conservative the bank is.

02:32:23.000 And he goes, they're the ones!

02:32:25.000 They're the ones!

02:32:25.000 That's the real mob!

02:32:26.000 But it's such a big mob that it's the establishment!

02:32:30.000 And then whenever they want to burn a mafia that's been cut in on their territory, they'll put some heat on it.

02:32:36.000 You know, the Italian mob started getting really big and becoming one of the most powerful in the 40s.

02:32:41.000 So, the newspapers just talked about them and exposed them, and the G-Men went in and broke a lot of them up, and the Italian mob today is a joke. 0.99

02:32:48.000 I mean, the Asian mob's much bigger.

02:32:52.000 The Chinese mob alone is much bigger than the Italian mob. 0.71

02:32:54.000 The Italian mob is a joke. 1.00

02:32:56.000 Is a joke. 0.97

02:32:58.000 The Jewish mafia, though, has been slicker and not as apt to go around killing each other and having wars and it's quite large. 0.89

02:33:08.000 And I'll talk about the Jewish Mafia all day. 1.00

02:33:09.000 I mean, I'll have Jewish writers on but, you know, Pulitzer Prize winning books about the Jewish Mafia.

02:33:14.000 And if you talk about the Jewish Mafia, you know, the ADL will come out and attack you.

02:33:17.000 That's basically their job is protecting the Jewish Mafia. 0.98

02:33:20.000 You know, and endorsing Arnold Schwarzenegger, a confirmed Nazi. 0.80

02:33:23.000 I mean, it's a joke.

02:33:25.000 And then every time I research Rothschilds or any of these so-called big Jewish families, I mean, they're totally into the occult, totally into Nazism. 1.00

02:33:33.000 They're not Jews, folks. 0.97

02:33:35.000 The Bible says, but where are those who call themselves Jews that are not? 0.95

02:33:37.000 And then a lot of good Jews look at those groups and think, oh, well, they say they're Jewish, then, you know, that must be a Jewish group, so I better defend them.

02:33:44.000 And no, I mean, it's like good conservatives defending the Republican Party and the Bush family, which is one of the biggest, you know, crime families in the country.

02:33:52.000 And when you attack them, it's, oh, you just don't like You just don't like the Bushes.

02:33:59.000 You don't like Republicans.

02:34:01.000 I had one newspaper reporter I had dinner with about a month ago. 0.71

02:34:05.000 I said, you're a liberal and you don't like, you don't like white people. 0.64

02:34:09.000 And I said, and she was white, and I said, what are you talking about? 0.76

02:34:12.000 I'm talking about how the Republicans have been taking over.

02:34:14.000 That's how they see it.

02:34:15.000 It's like tribal. 0.73

02:34:16.000 My tribe is the Republicans and you're attacking my tribe.

02:34:19.000 And then, you know, when I said I'm sick of it, I am sick of them covering up for how many people the Bolsheviks killed. 0.71

02:34:29.000 I'm sick of them... I'm not sick of hearing about how Hitler was bad, how he killed people.

02:34:33.000 Folks, he was into the occult. 0.97

02:34:35.000 He was a devil worshipper.

02:34:37.000 I've got his own writing.

02:34:38.000 This guy was bad news.

02:34:39.000 Just look at him!

02:34:40.000 Look at his... look at all the symbols! 1.00

02:34:43.000 It's the tool society, the fool society. 0.99

02:34:46.000 And then people like David Duke and others come out defending Hitler. 0.99

02:34:50.000 It's out of control.

02:34:52.000 It's a fraud.

02:34:53.000 Just because some other group is corrupt doesn't mean you can race over to the other extreme of a Germanic death cult mafia. 0.63

02:35:01.000 And I'm sick of the cover-ups about how many people communists killed.

02:35:06.000 It wasn't Jews in China that killed 60 million of their own people.

02:35:13.000 And once you raise Because I want to be honest about this, Ed.

02:35:19.000 One part you raise about this is there were prominent Jews, or people who had some Jewish blood in them, and they would use it as a political tool when they needed to, and then deny it when they didn't want it, or they would also then persecute Jews.

02:35:30.000 So, I don't know, the Russian Revolution and what happened over the next 60 years is Jews killing people, purges of Jews being killed, Stalin going after Jews, Uh, I don't know.

02:35:42.000 So when you say, Jews killing 50 million, I don't, uh, I think that's distorted.

02:35:48.000 Were there Jews in it?

02:35:49.000 Yes. 1.00

02:35:50.000 But it's the normal MO, Jews killing Jews, as well as Christians. 0.99

02:35:53.000 Do you have any comments? 0.99

02:35:54.000 Yeah, uh, Alex?

02:35:57.000 I'm on still, am I?

02:35:58.000 Okay, read China.

02:35:58.000 Yes, you are.

02:36:00.000 Your friends like Ted Gunderson, FBI man, and Michael Piper at the American Free Press Newspaper in Washington have made the point about Red China and the long-standing secret relationship with the Israelis.

02:36:12.000 Oh, that's true. 0.98

02:36:12.000 The Israelis are horrible. 0.98

02:36:14.000 Let me stop you. 0.99

02:36:15.000 Weapons of Pakistan is now given to North Korea.

02:36:19.000 But so is the U.S.

02:36:20.000 government.

02:36:20.000 So is the British government.

02:36:21.000 They're all bad. 0.51

02:36:22.000 But look, here's the thing. 0.96

02:36:24.000 If we just single the Jews out, then the whole anti-Semitic argument comes out.

02:36:29.000 Plus, it isn't true, sir.

02:36:30.000 I've really looked at it.

02:36:31.000 Did you know that British...

02:36:33.000 Families with no Jewish last names are the majority owners of American stock. 0.93

02:36:38.000 It is British families.

02:36:39.000 It is not Jews. 1.00

02:36:41.000 Do they have some Jews as front men? 0.91

02:36:43.000 Yes.

02:36:43.000 Yes, and that's part of the thing.

02:36:45.000 And here's where the crux I'm coming to.

02:36:47.000 One of the things that you've done very well at, Alex, we're all on your side on this, on the 9-11.

02:36:52.000 When you look at the fact that the Bronfman's longtime friend and Rupert Murdoch, who is not Jewish, but his friendship goes to Ariel Sharon and Frank Lowry, one of the Israeli-born owners of the Trade Towers at the time of 9-11.

02:37:06.000 And when you ask, who benefits from all this?

02:37:08.000 Quoi bono, the old question, who benefits in Latin?

02:37:11.000 And we see that... But it's like this, but it's like this, but it's like this.

02:37:16.000 In Texas, 50 years ago, the German mob was big.

02:37:19.000 The German mob was very small.

02:37:22.000 The WASP mob was big, but particularly the German mafia. 0.70

02:37:26.000 And it was just in prostitution and gaming and illegal booze. 0.73

02:37:32.000 But the German mob was big in Texas. 0.99

02:37:34.000 Well, if a German goes out and shoots somebody who didn't pay them, that isn't because Germans are bad. 0.98

02:37:41.000 Germans aren't bad because Hitler was bad. 0.98

02:37:44.000 Look, I'm telling you, if you want to be effective and want to fight the Jewish Mafia, which I think is admirable, then fight all the Mafias. 1.00

02:37:52.000 Well, last point on this.

02:37:53.000 We've heard so much over the years about German perfidy. 1.00

02:37:57.000 We need to hear about these people, like Wolf and Sheepskin, what they have been doing, and that's why I brought us here today.

02:38:03.000 But certainly you know there were purges by the Soviets of Jews.

02:38:05.000 Yeah, but I realize that... Well, then explain that to me.

02:38:07.000 I don't understand.

02:38:09.000 And here's my point though, Alex, is that we need to look at the perfidy involved not only with the banksters, Largely have been Jewish. 1.00

02:38:17.000 Look at our Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, that pushed that last war. 0.97

02:38:21.000 Look at Pearl Wolfowitz in there now. 0.91

02:38:22.000 They are trying to benefit that state of Israel, which has benefited so much money from our U.S.

02:38:28.000 Treasury.

02:38:28.000 And yet, look what they got away with, Alex, because of their control of our media, the USS Liberty, the Le Bon Affair in the middle 50s in Egypt.

02:38:36.000 So we do have a problem that does center on Israel-centric.

02:38:40.000 And that's why I brought up David Duke's book, Jewish Supremacism, which does a historical overview over the last hundred years, and that's why Mr. Duke is in jail!

02:38:49.000 Listen to me.

02:38:50.000 I don't like David Duke. 0.92

02:38:53.000 I don't like the Ku Klux Klan, a satanic, masonic organization. 0.99

02:38:57.000 And I have read writings of Duke where he is an apologist for Hitler. 0.95

02:39:01.000 Hitler was a devil worshipper. 0.57

02:39:06.000 Do you understand that the same societies that were in Germany founded Skull and Bones here in this country? 0.98

02:39:16.000 It's true that Bush has some Jews in his cabinet, and people that say they're Jews are evil. 0.98

02:39:21.000 But at his core, Bush is a... it's devil worship. 0.99

02:39:26.000 It's not Jews, it's not Germans, it's devil worship. 1.00

02:39:30.000 I realize that Alex, but I'm just hoping that as part of the food for thought here, I don't like Ted Kennedy at all, but he's right about this war and his comments today, and they're causing consternation for big ol' Rush Limbaugh.

02:39:42.000 But when you look at ABC, who Rush Limbaugh truly works for, and the Fox News Network, where they got their money from, the Brothmans, it goes back to your Jewish mafia that you talked about, and that Michael Piper... Well, you know, the Brothmans have basically lost control of everything. 0.99

02:39:56.000 Well, Levinson's their CEO.

02:39:57.000 They have a controlling interest of Polygram, I understand, and they did buy back into Universal Studios.

02:40:03.000 They haven't lost control of that.

02:40:05.000 But when you go back to CNN, which of course is owned by Time Warner, which is Levinson, how can this concentrated power, plus even now...

02:40:14.000 Well, Levinson's their CEO.

02:40:15.000 He doesn't own it.

02:40:17.000 Well, the fact is that on the board of directors, Levinson is the CEO, but when you look at the total board of directors and where the money comes from, that's why I'm saying if you go to Dun & Bradstreet...

02:40:27.000 I think if you look at the board of directors, you're going to find it's British money.

02:40:31.000 Well, you can talk about British banks, and that is fair debate.

02:40:35.000 That's another thing.

02:40:36.000 Look, I don't think...

02:40:39.000 It's a joke, sir.

02:40:40.000 You look at Lord Rothschild, who is really at the top of the pyramid of the New World Order.

02:40:44.000 He can prance around saying he's Jewish all day.

02:40:46.000 The guy's got blue eyes, he has no so-called Semitic characteristics, and their family clearly funded Hitler. 0.90

02:40:56.000 The problem is that Jews, real Jews, support these people and they shouldn't. 1.00

02:41:03.000 Okay, but they're not Jews, sir. 0.66

02:41:05.000 They may not be, Alex, but the point is that that's the name they're going by.

02:41:08.000 That is the movement that they have started, and their banks do control the U.S.

02:41:13.000 media.

02:41:13.000 Sumner Redstone owns 77% of the stocks of the CBS Viacom network, and what is important is that most Americans don't even know this fact.

02:41:23.000 It is essentially foreknown.

02:41:24.000 Pat Buchanan, during the last Gulf War, Alex, said that there's two groups that wanted this war.

02:41:29.000 The Israeli Defense Ministry and our Amen Corner here in the United States.

02:41:32.000 Oh yeah, well, you know, that's the weird thing about Buchanan.

02:41:35.000 He's suddenly been for these wars, then he's against them.

02:41:38.000 Talk about flip-flopping.

02:41:39.000 I appreciate the call.

02:41:41.000 I want to take a few more and get to some news, but I just... Folks, I saw a great article on the web about this.

02:41:48.000 It is... Listen, if anybody has any respect for me, I'm tired of being called an Israeli apologist.

02:41:56.000 Okay?

02:41:57.000 I'm tired of it.

02:41:59.000 And I literally tell the truth as best I know it.

02:42:03.000 I research it.

02:42:04.000 I study it.

02:42:05.000 I have read so many history books from so many different angles.

02:42:09.000 I understand the history of this thing.

02:42:11.000 And it really is, the New World Order is extremely sophisticated.

02:42:18.000 And if you read the Bible, you understand this.

02:42:22.000 You understand that the devil hates God's people.

02:42:29.000 And Christ came and so we're all God's people now.

02:42:32.000 But the point is that I am a Christian.

02:42:36.000 And when I see the phony neocon church saying, worship Israel, Israel can do no wrong, go along with what they say or you're cursed.

02:42:45.000 Then I read the prophets all who are rebuking Israel for being wrong and being bad and being involved in evil and Israel being judged.

02:42:52.000 So I don't go with this whole view that Israel's perfect and Israel's this and Israel's that, but I know that the devil and his forces have focused on the Jews and have been very good at getting control of so-called leaders so that, just like it happened thousands of years ago, so they can lead them astray. 0.82

02:43:08.000 And so we should be able to criticize Israel and criticize what they're doing and talk about what they're doing that is bad. 0.63

02:43:14.000 But at the same time, then, I don't throw myself in to the support of the Muslims. 0.97

02:43:19.000 Where if I went to Saudi Arabia and walked outside one of the compounds at night, this is 20 years ago, and today as well, I'll be shot. 0.96

02:43:28.000 I mean, they really do hate Westerners. 0.92

02:43:30.000 They really do.

02:43:32.000 You talk about tribalism, organized crime. 0.98

02:43:36.000 Now, I don't subscribe that all Arabs are bad and hate Westerners and hate Christians. 0.95

02:43:40.000 That's not true.

02:43:42.000 The Jordanians have a great history of tolerance and being nice.

02:43:47.000 Frankly, the Palestinians did. 1.00

02:43:51.000 Iraqis did. 0.93

02:43:52.000 Not anymore. 0.97

02:43:53.000 But I see our government loving the worst Muslim countries out there. 1.00

02:43:56.000 Look, it's just... I had the ADL attack me for absolutely no reason. 0.73

02:44:04.000 Uh, and I've, you know, threatened to sue them, and they've taken some stuff down before, but, I mean, they don't even say I'm anti-Semitic, they just put me mixed in with all these, you know, really unsavory people, on their website, and then I had, uh, and then I get these emails, you know, hey Jew boy, you know, we're gonna kill you, when I came out against Arnold, I got lots of emails, going, I'll hit where we're gonna get you, uh, you know, it's sick, it's sick. 0.97

02:44:32.000 But listen, I will talk about the Jewish Mafia. 1.00

02:44:34.000 I will talk about the Italian Mafia.

02:44:35.000 I will talk about the WASP Mafia. 0.98

02:44:37.000 And I'll discuss this, but if you go back to medieval times, and you research what happened, the royalty was very, very smart.

02:44:48.000 And very, very sophisticated.

02:44:52.000 And they would not allow banking, but they would then license it directly to Jews. 0.96

02:44:59.000 And the argument was, you're not allowed to bank, and you're not allowed to be anything but a Christian, but Jews are kind of in between. 0.99

02:45:07.000 They can be in our country because they're not really Christian. 1.00

02:45:10.000 This is during the Middle Ages, Dark Ages even.

02:45:13.000 Even though they're not Christian, they're of the same cloth, and so we're going to let them be here, and we're going to let them engage in banking. 1.00

02:45:21.000 And then every few years, in some new country, the king would just decide to take their money.

02:45:27.000 And then later the Templars got into banking and they had their money taken.

02:45:32.000 And then so you kind of have an allied thing between some of the Jews and the Templars and all this stuff goes on.

02:45:38.000 But, I mean, that's just history.

02:45:40.000 But, it just, the scapegoating is really ingrained and deeply inculcated into our society.

02:45:51.000 And as sooner we get past it, and just say we're against evil policies, and we're against organized crime, and the sooner we stand up against it, the sooner we're going to be able to defeat it.

02:46:01.000 But so much of the energy is spent by a minority of activists out there just beating their heads up against the wall, Israel, Israel, Israel, and it's not going anywhere.

02:46:12.000 Uh, and, uh, you know, most Jews are good people, just like most, you know, Chinese are good people, or most Germans are good people, and they just sit there and think you don't like them, and they run off and join the New World Order, thinking it must be good. 0.97

02:46:24.000 Why, if you're attacking the New World Order and saying, you know, the Jews are bad, well, then the New World Order must be good! 1.00

02:46:29.000 And they go see.

02:46:30.000 Uh, it's so sophisticated, and I have trouble articulating it.

02:46:33.000 I just... Uh, next is, uh, who's up next here?

02:46:38.000 Kyle in Colorado, and then Luis in Casey, that's all I'm taking.

02:46:41.000 Kyle in Colorado, go ahead.

02:46:43.000 Greetings, sir.

02:46:45.000 If I may, I'd like to change the subject and go back to what you were talking about.

02:46:47.000 Yeah, please, please do.

02:46:49.000 I have a brief story about chimeras and the biological testing and biological engineering.

02:46:57.000 The doctor was very fascinated with what he was talking about, but I have to disagree with his timeline and what he said was actual progress being made.

02:47:05.000 I'm an electrical engineer.

02:47:06.000 I've been in electronics and broadcast engineering for over 30 years.

02:47:10.000 About 20 years ago, it was either 1980 or 1981, I was on a field trip down to Los Angeles and was staying in a hotel in Hollywood.

02:47:19.000 They had a local channel origination news broadcast, or news program, like when they highlight certain industries and certain corporations and companies upcoming.

02:47:28.000 And this was their technological segment.

02:47:30.000 And they had highlighted a local biomedical engineering company down there in Los Angeles or near to Hollywood.

02:47:37.000 In that, they took them through the entire lab and were showing the cryogenics and the chambers for growing the budding embryos.

02:47:46.000 And the person who was their personnel, well, not personnel, but the, what do you call it, the gal that does all the news presentations for the company, the PR gal, thank you, sir, She was going into great depth because she was, I guess, one of their affiliate engineers, biomedical engineer.

02:48:07.000 And she was going on and on about how, what kind of progress they had made.

02:48:12.000 And the gal that was the representative for that representative was telling the The newscaster, how interesting it was that they were having... Sorry, do we need to hold it?

02:48:21.000 Yeah, I was just listening to you.

02:48:23.000 It's all decades more advanced than what they tell you.

02:48:23.000 No, no, no.

02:48:26.000 And now they're admitting all this is happening.

02:48:27.000 That professor we had on was playing word games.

02:48:30.000 He was talking about certain types of chimeras.

02:48:34.000 I caught him doing that.

02:48:35.000 But tell you what, stay there.

02:48:36.000 We'll come back to you, Kyle.

02:48:37.000 Then we'll let Luis finish up and hit one or two final articles.

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02:51:55.000 About eight years ago, I saw a BBC News article that said, secretly in England, two years ago, human clones were created, but terminated before birth.

02:52:06.000 Growing embryos.

02:52:08.000 So yes, a long time ago.

02:52:10.000 This scholar's talking about 20 years ago.

02:52:12.000 I wasn't aware of that.

02:52:14.000 This type of information was coming out.

02:52:17.000 But go ahead and finish up what you were saying, Kyle.

02:52:20.000 Okay, thank you, Alex.

02:52:21.000 Well, like I say, it was between 1980 and 1981, and the interviewer had been talking to the biological engineering, their spokesman.

02:52:29.000 and their spokes gal the interviewer did a very good job getting the spokesman very excited about their successes they'd had in the lab and she went on to describe this was before they were doing recombinant DNA insights they were just doing combining sperm and egg with different different animals and she said we were having some great success and especially in several types of human and animal experimentation she said that And the interviewer said, really?

02:52:54.000 Tell me about it.

02:52:55.000 And the gal started telling them that they'd had successes in five different areas, some combining with human and chimpanzee.

02:53:03.000 They had not had any luck with human and spider monkey.

02:53:07.000 Oddly enough, she said, human and dog did not succeed, but human and jackal was remarkably successful.

02:53:13.000 We had a viable embryo that looked like it was going to do well.

02:53:16.000 But the most thing was that they were mostly Uh, excited about was they had a human and pig combination.

02:53:23.000 Human and swine.

02:53:24.000 And the gal went on and was getting very excited.

02:53:26.000 Yeah, well that's all admitted now, you know.

02:53:28.000 Oh, she said it went further than that.

02:53:29.000 She said, she went on and said, not only did we have a vial of embryo, it went through to term.

02:53:34.000 And it had the most amazing features, the hands, and it was just interesting to know how it was going, how it was growing.

02:53:40.000 And it seemed to be quite intelligent.

02:53:42.000 And it was learning to walk rapidly after only four months.

02:53:45.000 And the interviewer said, whoa, wait.

02:53:47.000 You had a big human go to term, and it was born.

02:53:50.000 At that time, of course, the PR gal realized she'd been trapped.

02:53:55.000 Well, nothing like when I mentioned the New Jersey law, the guy had to admit it.

02:53:59.000 Well, yes, you can bring it to term if it's for research, but you can't give it to the parents to take home.

02:54:06.000 See, it's all semantical games.

02:54:08.000 It's like years ago, they were going to put up Thousands of cameras, I said, to the head of TechScot Public Relations, John Hurt.

02:54:16.000 I said, and it's on video, I said, Mr. Hurt, you're going to put up hundreds, he goes, no, thousands of cameras.

02:54:21.000 And I go, and they're for law enforcement?

02:54:23.000 He goes, no, no, no, no.

02:54:24.000 And I said, ah, TechScot's not law enforcement, your sister agency will dual use it.

02:54:28.000 He goes, you ought to be a lawyer, Alex, absolutely.

02:54:31.000 Ha, ha, ha.

02:54:32.000 So see, that's all how they play these semantical games.

02:54:35.000 And it's spooky to realize that even now, 20 years later, now they're saying, oh, we're just barely making inroads?

02:54:41.000 When I saw it and heard for myself.

02:54:43.000 Well, they're admitting in the news that they are making, they're doing it, I mean, but our guess was kind of soft-pedaled.

02:54:49.000 Hey, good to hear from you, Kyle.

02:54:51.000 Lewis in Kansas City.

02:54:52.000 Lewis, go ahead, sir.

02:54:54.000 No, it's Louise, and I just wanted to ask, did you see, by any chance, Nightline last night with Ted Koppel?

02:55:00.000 No, I didn't see it.

02:55:01.000 Okay, well, I didn't tape it.

02:55:03.000 If somebody's listening, then I want to give it to you.

02:55:05.000 You might really be interested in it.

02:55:06.000 He had a town hall meeting in St.

02:55:08.000 John's Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C., okay?

02:55:12.000 And the topic of the show was, uh, why stay?

02:55:15.000 It was about the war in Iraq.

02:55:16.000 And at the very end of the show, he was really good because he had an audience of people, a broad range of all kinds of people, a list of people, people that lost limbs from the war.

02:55:26.000 So what was said at the end?

02:55:27.000 Well, at the very end, somebody yelled out, because he was giving the closing comments, and somebody yelled out, what about Gulf War syndrome and depleted uranium?

02:55:37.000 And as Ted Koppel said, I couldn't, I couldn't understand what was being said and then the show ended.

02:55:41.000 But all the stuff that was said, if somebody wants to give you a copy, I think you, and there's a guy that was on there, it's the man whose wife, well, she was leaked that she was a CIA, worked for the CIA.

02:55:53.000 Yeah.

02:55:53.000 He was very good.

02:55:54.000 You ought to have that man as a guest.

02:55:56.000 I hear you.

02:55:56.000 Thank you for the call.

02:55:57.000 You have a fabulous weekend.

02:55:59.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, CINFORAL.

02:56:01.000 And after that, we'll be on George Norie this evening.

02:56:04.000 And I'll see you back here on Monday.

02:56:06.000 Thanks to all the affiliates, the sponsors, the listeners, the folks running the show, my wife, who's the producer, getting the guests, everybody.

02:56:13.000 We're going to defeat the New World Order if we can just inform the people about the sinister activities of the globalists, and we can all stand together against corruption and evil instead of fighting with each other over, you know, what group we're with, and we can win.

02:56:27.000 Alright, God bless you all.

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