Alex Jones Show - 20050610_Fri_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:00:22.000 Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:34.000 It is Friday the 10th of June 2005.

00:00:39.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

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00:01:13.000 And they've now gotten their other three children back just this morning.

00:01:18.000 I talked to both the mother and the father.

00:01:21.000 And they're dealing with lawyers and all of it today.

00:01:25.000 But we are going to try to get the father on in the next hour.

00:01:31.000 And yes, we do have a surprise guest scheduled for 30 minutes from now.

00:01:37.000 One of those surprise guests, and we'll see if that surprise guest does indeed arrive.

00:01:44.000 So much to talk about, so much to cover in the meantime.

00:01:49.000 The Army is again denying cover-up in the Pat Tillman case, when their cover-up is now publicly admitted.

00:02:00.000 The House, of course, okayed continued participation in the sovereignty-destroying World Trade Organization.

00:02:10.000 There is a TV show that depicts 9-1-1 as Bush plot that aired on German television and the Green Party coming to the aid of their of their compatriot, their buddy Bush, is absolutely outraged by this.

00:02:27.000 Why?

00:02:27.000 How dare them talk about a fellow Trotskyite this way?

00:02:32.000 And finally, people are taking notice of a Reuters story from three weeks ago, where the CFR, basically advising the federal government, is calling for a total end of our borders.

00:02:50.000 The Pan-American Union, the Union of American States, the capital to be in Miami, or in Atlanta.

00:02:57.000 They're looking at both places right now.

00:03:00.000 The average American still has no idea this is even going on.

00:03:05.000 But last night on Lou Dobbs, here is the transcript from last night's program.

00:03:10.000 Dobbs, border security is arguably the critical issue in the country's fight against radical Islamist terrorism.

00:03:17.000 But our borders remain porous, so porous that 3 million illegal aliens entered this country last year, nearly all of them from Mexico.

00:03:26.000 Now, incredibly, a panel sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations wants the United States to focus not on the defense of our own borders, but rather create what effectively would be a common border that includes Mexico and Canada.

00:03:43.000 And then they go into the report saying Canada, U.S.

00:03:47.000 and Mexico would be, quote, one big country!

00:03:53.000 So, see, in Europe, they tell them, oh, it'll be one big country.

00:03:56.000 They're honest about it and people say no.

00:03:58.000 Here, they just don't tell you about it until it's almost too late.

00:04:02.000 And I still hear Rush Limbaugh on the radio saying there's no such thing, so...

00:04:08.000 It's like when they were ramming the tanks into the Branch Davidian Church saying, this is not an assault, this is not an assault, as they pumped their CS gas in, banned by the Geneva Convention.

00:04:22.000 This is not an assault, this is not an assault.

00:04:24.000 So I'll go over more of this as our top story when we get back after this quick break, and talk about the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on the future of North America, And, uh, oh, there's a sheriff up in New Hampshire.

00:04:41.000 New track against illegal immigrants trespassing charges.

00:04:44.000 Absolutely wonderful news.

00:04:46.000 Exactly what the sheriffs and police chiefs should be doing.

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00:07:59.000 Big Brother.

00:08:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 We've got several very important guests coming up.

00:08:40.000 One of them a surprise guest, dealing with the public plan now to totally get rid of USC.

00:08:47.000 sovereignty, now even exposed on Lou Dobbs last night on CNN.

00:08:55.000 But right now, I want to talk about this.

00:08:57.000 TV show depicts 9-1-1 as Bush plot.

00:09:01.000 This is out of the Washington Times today.

00:09:04.000 A fictional crime drama based on the premise of the Bush administration.

00:09:08.000 Ordered the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center and Washington.

00:09:13.000 Aired this week on German state television.

00:09:16.000 Prompting the Green Party chairman to call for an investigation.

00:09:21.000 I think absolutely nothing of the conspiracy theory that has been hawked in this series.

00:09:26.000 I hope this particular TV movie will be discussed very critically at the next Supervisory Board meeting of ARD State Television, said Green Party Chairman Reinhard Bultkofer, who acknowledged that he had not seen the show.

00:09:43.000 And of course, the Greens are like watermelons, green on the outside, red on the inside.

00:09:49.000 A lot of well-meaning people are members of the Green Party, but I assure you it's globalist-controlled, folks.

00:09:54.000 The globalists put the money up to start this organization 30-40 years ago.

00:09:59.000 So isn't it classic?

00:10:00.000 We've got a fellow traveler defending Bush the Trotskyite. 0.64

00:10:05.000 And if you don't know about that, Ron Paul's exposed it, okay?

00:10:07.000 Everything you think is actually the opposite of what's really going on.

00:10:11.000 Sunday night's episode of Tatort, a popular murder mystery that has been running on state-run ARD German television for 35 years, revolved around a German woman and a man who was killed in her apartment.

00:10:25.000 According to the plot, which was seen by approximately 7 million Deutsch, the dead man had been trained to be one of the September 11th pilots, but was left behind only to be tracked down and killed by CIA or FBI assailants.

00:10:40.000 The woman, who says in the program that the September 11th attacks were investigated by the Bush A family for oil and power, then is targeted, presumably, to silence her.

00:10:50.000 The drama concludes that the German detectives accepted the truth of her story as she eludes the U.S.

00:10:56.000 government, hit men, and escapes to safety in an unnamed Arab country.

00:11:02.000 As ludicrous as it may sound to most Americans, the tale has resonance in Germany where fantastic conspiracy theories are often taken as fact.

00:11:12.000 Many Germans think, for example, that in 1969, moon landing was faked.

00:11:16.000 And a poll published in the weekly Die Zeit showed that 31% of Germans younger than 30, that there is a certain possibility that the U.S.

00:11:24.000 government ordered the attack on 9-11.

00:11:26.000 Yeah, and in that same poll, 60-plus percent believed they had prior knowledge and aided.

00:11:33.000 Only 31% believed, in that certain age group, that they were behind it.

00:11:38.000 In fact, three of the hijackers who seized control of commercial airliners on September 11th, included their ringleader, Bahamut Atta, reportedly have ties to Hamburg, Germany-based Al-Qaeda's cell.

00:11:51.000 ARD and ARD-produced television shows are funded by a monthly tax on German televisions, just like England has BBC tax.

00:11:58.000 Yeah, you pay a tax for your TV.

00:12:00.000 The network plays a role similar to the British Broadcasting Corporation.

00:12:04.000 And then it goes on.

00:12:06.000 And the show, which translates to Crime Scene, is a drama with a rotating cast of actors solving mysteries in weekly episodes set throughout Germany.

00:12:17.000 The U.S.

00:12:17.000 Embassy in Berlin was not impressed with the latest episode, which seemed to be haunting Arabic music to portray Arabs and Muslims as innocent victims of American aggression.

00:12:29.000 Any claim or suggestion that the United States government was behind 9-11 disaster is absolutely absurd and not worthy of further comments said Robert A. Wood, spokesman for the embassy, a German diplomat in Washington, said that no one in Germany took the plot seriously because it was pure fiction.

00:12:46.000 Alright.

00:12:48.000 Is that why your former German defense minister and former technology minister and another top minister have gone public saying there's no way that guys in a cave had NORAD stand down or called Mayor Willie Brown and told him not to fly and Solomon Rushdie and John Ashcroft and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and insider CIA trading in the days leading up to it and the drills on 9-11 of flying hijacked jets with the exact same targets at the exact same time and Dick Cheney in control from the bunker?

00:13:15.000 Flying the Bin Ladens out to safety after the attacks, flying 8,000 of them out to safety out of Afghanistan. 0.99

00:13:22.000 Hundreds of such smoking guns!

00:13:25.000 I mean, is that why I had George Galloway on two weeks ago, a member of parliament in England, and I said, won't the government carry out attacks to blame it on Iran?

00:13:33.000 Isn't that the threat?

00:13:34.000 And he said, yes, it's a very real threat.

00:13:37.000 That's exactly what these monkeys are capable of doing.

00:13:40.000 We have the official U.S.

00:13:42.000 government plan, Operation Northwoods.

00:13:46.000 To carry out 9-11 style attacks! 0.91

00:13:50.000 They executed the fake attacks to start Vietnam, Gulf of Duncan. 0.93

00:13:54.000 They executed the attack on the USS Liberty.

00:13:57.000 That happened just a few... the anniversary was just a few days ago.

00:14:03.000 It's the same MO over and over again.

00:14:10.000 And it's time for the American people to stop living in denial.

00:14:16.000 Oh boy.

00:14:19.000 It just makes my blood boil.

00:14:22.000 But the good news is that it is gaining general acceptance.

00:14:27.000 And the more they have hit pieces on television and on radio and in print against those of us telling the truth, the more people wake up.

00:14:37.000 If they would have just kept their mouths shut and wouldn't have countered us, it wouldn't be spreading this fast.

00:14:42.000 They are actually energizing us.

00:14:46.000 Because thinking people check out the facts and find out that your official story has been proven to be an absolute fraud from end to end.

00:14:56.000 Up one side and down the other.

00:15:00.000 We know that.

00:15:01.000 You have lied systematically, you have the motive, you have the official plans, and then all the evidence, not just the motive, And the capacity, but all the evidence points one place, and one place only.

00:15:18.000 And everybody listening, you know in your guts.

00:15:20.000 You know in your soul it's true.

00:15:23.000 But I don't want you to believe me, I want you to know.

00:15:27.000 I want you to research the facts.

00:15:30.000 And that's why I've made three films on 9-11, written a book, and published a book.

00:15:36.000 That's why I have dedicated my life to exposing the murderers who carried out 9-11. 0.86

00:15:46.000 Alright, let's get into some other news.

00:15:48.000 Back to lying again.

00:15:49.000 This is out of the Associated Press.

00:15:51.000 Army again denies cover-up in Tillman case.

00:15:54.000 The Army on Thursday issued a fresh denial that it attempted to cover up the friendly fire death of former pro football player Pat Tillman in Afghanistan.

00:16:03.000 The Army said procedural mistakes were to blame for its slow acknowledgement of the circumstances of Tillman's death.

00:16:10.000 They told the family to lie.

00:16:12.000 They told the family to shut up.

00:16:14.000 Oh, I guess now the family's bad.

00:16:17.000 I guess the fiction, the fable of Jessica Lynch telling her to lie, I guess that was an accident too.

00:16:24.000 We'll get more into this later.

00:16:26.000 But really the big news that I wanted to get into first here was on Lou Dobbs last night.

00:16:36.000 It was, and this is the email by the listener I then linked through and indeed did watch clips of it and did indeed read the transcript which is on InfoWars.com right now.

00:16:46.000 It was reported on Lou Dobbs last night that the traitorous That the traitors to the United States are firmly coming out from under their positions.

00:16:58.000 Again, let me start over here.

00:16:59.000 This makes me so angry I'm having trouble reading it.

00:17:02.000 It was reported on Lou Dobbs last night that the traitors to the United States are finally coming out from their positions under the rocks.

00:17:11.000 The Council on Foreign Relations has published a report which articulates the plan to subvert the Constitution by dissolving our nation in favor of a constitutional government.

00:17:23.000 The media has kept a pretty tight lid on this treason until now.

00:17:27.000 The 1986 amnesty, NAFTA, CAFTA, have been stripping and stepping stones towards the dissolution of our national sovereignty.

00:17:36.000 Now, that's the listeners' comments.

00:17:38.000 Here's the transcript from Lou Dobbs last night.

00:17:42.000 Dobbs. 0.96

00:17:43.000 Border security is arguably the critical issue in this country's fight against radical Islamist terrorism.

00:17:48.000 But our borders remain porous.

00:17:50.000 So porous that 3 million illegals are entering this country last year.

00:17:54.000 Nearly all of them from Mexico.

00:17:56.000 Now, incredibly, a panel sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations wants the United States to focus not on the defense of our own borders, but rather create what effectively would be a common border that includes Mexico and Canada.

00:18:09.000 Christine Ramos has the report.

00:18:12.000 Again, video.

00:18:14.000 Christine Ramos, CNN correspondent, voiceover.

00:18:17.000 On Capitol Hill, testimony calling for Americans to start thinking like citizens of North America and treat the U.S., Mexico, Canada like one big country.

00:18:26.000 Testimony, Robert Pasker.

00:18:29.000 Task Force on North America for the CFR.

00:18:31.000 Quote, the best way to secure the United States today is not at our two borders with Mexico and Canada, but at the borders of North America as a whole.

00:18:41.000 Ramos.

00:18:42.000 That's the view in a report called Building a North American Community.

00:18:46.000 It envisions a common border around the U.S., Mexico, and Canada in just five years, a border pass for residents of the three countries, and a freer flow of goods and people.

00:18:58.000 Total legalization.

00:18:59.000 Total amnesty.

00:19:00.000 Task force member Robert Pastor.

00:19:03.000 Pastor.

00:19:04.000 What we hope to accomplish by 2010, that's four and a half years, is a common external tariff which will mean that all goods can move easily across the border.

00:19:13.000 We want a common security perimeter around all of North America so as to ease the travel of people within North America. 0.81

00:19:21.000 Now again, seven days after 9-11, on nightline, they had UN General McKenzie say these exact words, we're going to get rid of your borders, Pan American Union. 0.88

00:19:33.000 And the transcript goes on and gets even worse.

00:19:36.000 Buried in the 49 pages of recommendations from the task force, we must maintain respect for each other's sovereignty, but security experts say following Mexico and Canada into the U.S.

00:19:46.000 is a grave breach of that sovereignty.

00:19:48.000 And then it gets into the actual documents where it says there'll be no more sovereignty.

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00:24:09.000 All right, folks, we're back live. we're back live.

00:24:27.000 Continuing with this transcript from CNN, Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy.

00:24:36.000 It says, for homogenizing the United States and its sovereignty within the very different systems existing today in Canada and Mexico, especially considering Mexico's problems with drug trafficking, human smuggling, and poverty, critics say the country is just too far behind the U.S.

00:24:52.000 and Canada to be included in the so-called common community.

00:24:56.000 So see, now it's not debating getting rid of our sovereignty, it's, oh, is Mexico ready?

00:25:01.000 But the task force wants military and law enforcement cooperation between all three countries.

00:25:05.000 Already happening.

00:25:07.000 Indeed, an exchange of personnel that bring Canadians and Mexicans into the Department of Homeland Security.

00:25:13.000 And it wants temporary migrant worker programs expanded with full mobility of labor between the three countries in the next five years.

00:25:21.000 Again, total legalization.

00:25:23.000 This is CNN, folks.

00:25:25.000 The idea here is to make North America more like the European Union.

00:25:30.000 Yet, just this week, voters in two major countries in the European Union voted against upgrading.

00:25:36.000 Updating the European Constitution.

00:25:39.000 So clearly this is not the best week to be trying to sell that idea.

00:25:43.000 Dobbs, Americans must think that our political and academic elites have gone utterly mad at a time when three-and-a-half years, approaching four years after September 11th, we still don't have border security, and this group of elites is talking about now defending our borders, finally, but rather creating new ones.

00:26:02.000 It's astonishing!

00:26:05.000 The presenter continues by saying, the theory here is that we are stronger together, three countries in one, rather than alone.

00:26:12.000 Dobbs, well, it's a mind-boggling concept.

00:26:16.000 Christine Romas, thank you, as always.

00:26:19.000 And then they go on to... I've got the report by the CFR here in front of me.

00:26:23.000 We've been talking about it for three weeks.

00:26:25.000 But look, Total legalization of all illegals, no more borders, massive high-speed highways with transponders in all the vehicles, instantly bringing people across. 0.77

00:26:37.000 Building the NAFTA highway all the way down into Guatemala to then flood us with all the other Latin Americans. 1.00

00:26:49.000 And folks, they're lucky if they make a thousand dollars a year in Latin America.

00:26:53.000 How are you going to compete against that?

00:26:55.000 You're not going to.

00:26:57.000 And they get into this article about the Mexican Zeta gangs killing cops and killing citizens.

00:27:02.000 What they don't mention is, Los Zetas works for Bush.

00:27:05.000 They were trained by the U.S.

00:27:07.000 government.

00:27:07.000 They're going after drug dealers who don't pay their cuts.

00:27:11.000 It's simple, folks.

00:27:11.000 We're going to become a third world country.

00:27:14.000 We're going to have a tiny elite ruling over us and no more middle class.

00:27:20.000 And they're racing ahead with this.

00:27:22.000 Now remember, for ten years I've been warning you about this Pan American Union. 1.00

00:27:26.000 And right now, in the next year, they're going to decide what the capital is going to be, Miami or Atlanta.

00:27:34.000 This is unbelievable.

00:27:36.000 And still, the so-called neocon media will not talk about it.

00:27:42.000 Bush is in full support of it.

00:27:44.000 The Democrats are in support of it.

00:27:46.000 The American people are not in support of it.

00:27:51.000 But they're not letting us vote on it, like the European Union is now having a chance to do.

00:27:56.000 They're just basically moving forward with the program.

00:27:59.000 I mean, look, it doesn't matter if the American people don't want open borders.

00:28:03.000 Bush just orders the Border Patrol to stand down.

00:28:07.000 Then he hands out all these federal funds that give out tattletale cards to elementary and junior high students and tell them how to tattle on their parents.

00:28:17.000 So our children are being trained to tattle on us, but at the same time, face scanning cameras are going up everywhere, and toll road systems, but the border is going to be wide open.

00:28:27.000 And we're going to have Mexican troops on our side of the border.

00:28:30.000 By the way, they signed a deal three years ago to do this.

00:28:33.000 They've already had joint drills with Canadian and Mexican troops in the United States to quote, deal with terrorists.

00:28:41.000 Those mainstream news articles are in Road to Tyranny and in the film after that, Police State 3 Total Enslavement.

00:28:51.000 So they're openly doing this and it's been in the Canadian papers how U.S.

00:28:56.000 troops and U.S.

00:28:57.000 State Police from even Texas are up in Canada running checkpoints searching their vehicles.

00:29:04.000 It's already going on.

00:29:06.000 No one asked you.

00:29:07.000 No one told you.

00:29:10.000 What, last year they had a thing on News 8 where they're merging the local police making them national marshals, federal marshals and then under treaty they are being turned into international police but then at the same time police from Russia and Japan and Mexico are going to be able to come into our countries and arrest us under their laws?

00:29:33.000 Oh yes!

00:29:36.000 And it's just quietly being done.

00:29:41.000 It's a one world government.

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00:33:27.000 In the last segment, I was reading part of the transcript from Lou Dobbs last night on CNN on his money program and Openly, the Council on Foreign Relations, one of their little think tank groups, a few weeks ago, Reuters reported on it, basically getting rid of our internal borders and creating this Pan-American or North American border.

00:33:52.000 And I saw U.N.

00:33:53.000 General McKenzie, a week after 9-11, say this on Nightline almost four years ago, and we've seen this in other policy reports, So, we are honored to have Dr. Robert A. Pastor, Vice Chair of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America.

00:34:14.000 He is the President of International Affairs at the American University in D.C.

00:34:19.000 Very busy man, so we're honored to have him.

00:34:21.000 Doctor, thanks for coming on with us.

00:34:23.000 It's my pleasure.

00:34:25.000 In a nutshell, tell us about the CFR and about this independent task force and the recommendations you guys put out three weeks ago that are finally getting some attention.

00:34:36.000 Well, first, I'm a Vice President of International Affairs, not a President, and secondly, the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force is an independent task force that was sponsored by the Council of 31 people from each of the three countries of North America, led by John Manley, Former Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, Pedro Raspe, the former Minister of Finance of Mexico, William Weld, former Governor of Massachusetts, I was Vice Chair.

00:35:03.000 In our report, we lay out a blueprint for where the three countries of North America should go from here.

00:35:11.000 We do not suggest that we should get rid of our internal borders.

00:35:16.000 We do suggest, however, in a post 9-11 world, We need to define and defend a continental North American security perimeter that will assure that all three countries are acting in ways that will reduce the chances of any terrorists from coming in.

00:35:34.000 We also propose a common external tariff that would reduce and eliminate rules of origin and make it easier for goods to be transit in this free trade area than before and allowing our inspectors to focus much more on security matters And also on immigration matters, because there's no way we're going to be eliminating the border with Mexico with regard to immigration in any foreseeable future.

00:36:00.000 Well, your report that I have here in front of me, and I also have Lou Dobbs' analysis of it, clearly it's Bush's amnesty plan, his guest worker program for six years.

00:36:09.000 Anybody who is here is legal.

00:36:12.000 Anybody who can get here is legal.

00:36:14.000 It allows corporations, if they're sponsoring someone with a skilled or unskilled job, to bring them here.

00:36:20.000 We already have deals with our military training with the Mexicans and the Canadians.

00:36:24.000 The Canadian newspapers have all been decrying this, saying it's a loss of their sovereignty, and I'm reading some sections of the proposal here in front of me, and it looks like something very similar to the European Union.

00:36:42.000 Well, I don't think you're reading it very closely.

00:36:45.000 We do not endorse President Bush's proposal.

00:36:49.000 Indeed, as far as I can tell, he hasn't endorsed his own.

00:36:51.000 That is to say, there's no piece of legislation That defines specifically what President Bush has in mind with regard to legalization or amnesty or whatever else.

00:37:01.000 We do suggest that a temporary worker program might make some sense for our countries.

00:37:09.000 In fact, we do have temporary worker programs as they exist right now.

00:37:12.000 They're not working very well.

00:37:14.000 Well, this is instant legalization of anybody who's here.

00:37:18.000 And Bush has proposed it, he has called for it, in two separate State of the Unions.

00:37:23.000 He's endorsed other bills in Congress that do exactly this.

00:37:27.000 I don't think they've endorsed any bills yet, but you can let the Bush administration speak for themselves.

00:37:32.000 I certainly wouldn't care to speak on his behalf.

00:37:36.000 I think they are trying to square a circle, which is to deal with those 11 million people who are here illegally, in a humanitarian fashion, Without wanting to encourage additional people coming here in an unauthorized way. 0.92

00:37:51.000 But we don't do that in our report.

00:37:53.000 Our report is focused much more on very specific steps that we need to take in order to secure North America much better than before, in order to make the market More seamless.

00:38:07.000 And that's exactly what the new federally standardized driver's license bill, it has language in it about sharing databases, having a unified identifier.

00:38:17.000 They're trying to unify the biometric codes with Europe right now.

00:38:21.000 We're already seeing deals between Canada and the EU.

00:38:24.000 I mean, the trilateralists that I know work with the CFR have openly called for these three unions.

00:38:31.000 Three unions?

00:38:32.000 Which unions are you talking about?

00:38:33.000 The Asian Union, the European Union, and the American Union.

00:38:37.000 Oh, come on, Doctor.

00:38:38.000 You know all about that.

00:38:39.000 I think you read a different body of material than I do.

00:38:46.000 Do you know what the Trilateral Commission is?

00:38:48.000 Are you a member of the Trilateral Commission?

00:38:51.000 Are you a member of the CFR?

00:38:51.000 No, I am not.

00:38:53.000 Yes, I'm a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.

00:38:55.000 Well, certainly you know what the Trilateral Commission does.

00:38:59.000 Yeah, of course.

00:39:00.000 It's a research group of people.

00:39:03.000 It's not a conspiratorial body that's trying to eliminate your human dignity, if that's what you're worried about.

00:39:09.000 What is needed right now, however... Wow, you said that!

00:39:12.000 I think you protest too much, Doctor!

00:39:15.000 I think what is needed, and you understand this in Texas better than most people do, is a different kind of relationship with Mexico and with Canada than we've had in the past.

00:39:26.000 And that's what we're proposing.

00:39:29.000 That the old relationship is not working very well.

00:39:31.000 Well, here's a quote, building a North American community, that's how they started the European Union, is we're going to have the European Economic Community, and then they go, oh, by the way, it's a union, and they just rejected that.

00:39:43.000 No, they took it in steps over a 55 year period, from greater cooperation in a European coal and steel community, To an economic community, which was a free trade area, from there to a customs union, from there to... they took it in each step.

00:39:59.000 Which is exactly what you guys are doing, but on a faster timetable.

00:40:02.000 You're talking about 2010.

00:40:03.000 Okay, then your ideal plan to make us all safe, Doctor, what would that be?

00:40:10.000 Well, first of all, we're not proposing imitating the European Union, although we are suggesting that there are lessons to be learned from the European Union that we would be foolish not to draw.

00:40:20.000 From five decades of trying to integrate in different countries.

00:40:25.000 What we propose, first of all, as I said before, is defining a common security perimeter.

00:40:31.000 Secondly, to move towards a common external tariff.

00:40:35.000 Thirdly, to think about a North American investment fund that would lift up the economy of Mexico and help transform Mexico by a series of reforms that are needed by there.

00:40:46.000 So that there would be less incentive to migrate to the United States and more incentive to build Probably the fastest-growing market for American goods.

00:40:55.000 Sir, sir, I'm here in Austin.

00:40:56.000 They're building the trans-American highway.

00:41:01.000 They're hiring everybody I know.

00:41:03.000 The thing's going to be, what, 15 lanes wide?

00:41:06.000 They're trying to pass laws to put transponders in all the cars.

00:41:09.000 They openly say everybody's going, and even Time Magazine admits that everyone will be legalized.

00:41:15.000 They'll just pour across en masse.

00:41:19.000 I mean, this is a total nightmare.

00:41:23.000 Well, you know, you can spend nightmares day and night, but I don't think any of those things are going to happen.

00:41:28.000 Well, we were told that NAFTA was going to stop all the illegals. 0.84

00:41:31.000 It's accelerated it.

00:41:34.000 Well, I didn't tell you that, and I never believed that it would.

00:41:37.000 I think that if you are going to deal with the immigration problem, you're going to have to deal... in the long term, there's only one way, and that's to narrow the development gap between Mexico and its northern neighbors.

00:41:51.000 And that's not being done right now.

00:41:53.000 And that was not the purpose of NAFTA.

00:41:55.000 NAFTA's purpose was simply to dismantle trade and investment barriers.

00:41:59.000 No, we were told, Al Gore and Bush and all of them told us that it was going to raise Mexico.

00:42:06.000 What it did do was it raised the northern part of Mexico.

00:42:09.000 They grew ten times faster than the south and the center.

00:42:12.000 And it acts as a giant magnet to suck everybody up here.

00:42:17.000 And so therefore the challenge, the next challenge, is how do you raise The rest of Mexico, and the way you do that is you help to develop, as Europe did, and as we can learn from that, develop infrastructure in the center and the south so that people will stay and work there.

00:42:32.000 That's not being done right now.

00:42:34.000 Well, Bush says, and I think your report agrees with most of his policy directives, he's over here saying we're not going to have an illegal alien problem anymore.

00:42:43.000 Yeah, because this is just going to legalize them.

00:42:47.000 What is going to legalize them?

00:42:52.000 Well, I mean, I'm not sure any of the proposals that are out there are likely to be approved anytime soon, if at all.

00:43:01.000 I think they raise a lot of difficult issues.

00:43:05.000 I'm not sure where it's going to go.

00:43:06.000 Did you hear about Joseph Stiglitz quitting the World Bank three years ago?

00:43:10.000 A thousand plus pages of documents got released and in there the IMF and World Bank are actually conspiring to blow out economies so they can consolidate their wealth.

00:43:20.000 I read the other policy reports put out by these big foundations and they say they're going to lower us Boy, you really are a fearful guy.

00:43:27.000 and merge us into this global community.

00:43:30.000 And this is just one more stepping stone along these lines because the elite doesn't want a middle class.

00:43:36.000 They want a giant peon class of neo-surfs they can control. 1.00

00:43:39.000 Boy, you really are a fearful guy.

00:43:43.000 I tell you, you read conspiracies into World Bank documents.

00:43:47.000 I mean, I can understand from listening to you why your listeners would be so frightened to tell you.

00:43:53.000 Well, Joseph Stiglitz said that.

00:43:54.000 Was he a conspiracy theorist?

00:43:56.000 Joseph Stiglitz never said that.

00:43:58.000 Joseph Stiglitz, he called him... You find me the quote in Joseph Stiglitz's books that says that we're going to be blowing out... the purpose of the World Bank and the IMF is to blow out their economy.

00:44:10.000 That's exactly why he quit and he did say that.

00:44:13.000 Do you just find me the quote?

00:44:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:15.000 Give me the citation.

00:44:16.000 I'd love to see it.

00:44:17.000 Okay, so if I give you, if I send you the quotes in his statements on the BBC and other places where he talked about how they engineered, on purpose, the collapse of Argentina, how they turned the water and power off to them causing... I'd love to see his name attached to what you just said.

00:44:35.000 He calls it the IMF riot.

00:44:38.000 Anyway, do you want to get back to North America, or do you want to just dance around the world and... You guys have been controlling... Okay, doctor, let me give you the answer.

00:44:50.000 You guys at the CFR have been controlling policy, and you've been running this country down the drain.

00:44:58.000 Everybody knows globalization is bad.

00:45:00.000 Everybody knows it's not fair, it's not free.

00:45:03.000 Everybody knows it's about centralizing power in the hands of a few select corporations.

00:45:09.000 You guys?

00:45:10.000 And I'm in charge of this one?

00:45:11.000 I'm running this thing?

00:45:12.000 I know that you are part of, obviously, the CFR camp that supports globalization that is destroying this country.

00:45:20.000 Well, the Council of Foreign Relations is like a university.

00:45:23.000 Have you ever gone to a university?

00:45:25.000 Yes, I know you're going to say it's a very diverse body of people, and there is a minority that's against a lot of this stuff. 0.85

00:45:31.000 What you find in a university, if you ever go to one, Is that there are many people with many different ideas and to suggest that a university or a research institution or a group of individuals around the country have a single view of the world and that view is designed to undermine you and to undermine America is absolutely ridiculous.

00:45:53.000 Sir, I have the quotes out of Foreign Affairs.

00:45:55.000 Hundreds of them.

00:45:56.000 I read your bi-monthly publication.

00:45:59.000 Or the publication of the organization you're affiliated with.

00:46:01.000 And there is a wide spectrum of thought in the world.

00:46:05.000 You guys have a narrow spectrum.

00:46:07.000 Within that narrow spectrum, there is some debate and some limited diversity.

00:46:13.000 But predominantly, you guys want global government.

00:46:15.000 You just disagree on how to implement it.

00:46:17.000 Now is that not a fair statement?

00:46:19.000 It's not a fair statement.

00:46:20.000 Do you want global government, sir?

00:46:22.000 No.

00:46:24.000 I think global government is impractical.

00:46:27.000 And it's completely impossible.

00:46:28.000 Other than that, it's an interesting idea.

00:46:31.000 Are you saying you never read quotes in foreign affairs calling for a new world order, global government?

00:46:38.000 I do read foreign affairs, not religiously of course.

00:46:41.000 It comes out actually about six times a year.

00:46:44.000 And so I read a few articles.

00:46:45.000 I've written a few articles myself.

00:46:48.000 I suspect if I thought very hard I might be able to identify one of Three hundred articles that might suggest something along these lines.

00:46:57.000 Well, I read it every single month.

00:46:59.000 You do?

00:47:00.000 Oh, that's great.

00:47:01.000 Why don't you tell me then about the article that I wrote in it.

00:47:06.000 I'm specifically, well, I mean, you're part of this commission calling for this common America.

00:47:14.000 Tell me about the last article that I wrote in it.

00:47:16.000 Why don't you tell me how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? 1.00

00:47:19.000 Why don't you tell me in the last issue, how many articles were there?

00:47:26.000 Why don't you tell me how many angels can dance on the head of a pen? 1.00

00:47:29.000 So you're not taking credit for this new report you put out calling for getting rid of our borders?

00:47:35.000 I'm... I... I...

00:47:37.000 I guess Lou Dobbs is a conspiracy theorist?

00:47:39.000 Hey, Lou Dobbs sounds like me in this article.

00:47:42.000 Are you saying Lou Dobbs is a nutcase too?

00:47:45.000 I'll leave it to you to describe Lou Dobbs.

00:47:47.000 I don't even, I didn't see it.

00:47:48.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:47:50.000 But for the commission, to get back to your previous question.

00:47:54.000 The task force, I was vice chair, I think it's a very good report.

00:47:59.000 I've endorsed it.

00:47:59.000 I made a slight suggestion at the end.

00:48:02.000 We never call for an elimination of borders in that report.

00:48:05.000 You find me where we call for the elimination of borders?

00:48:08.000 Well, I mean, it says speeding people and goods across, and then I've looked at the plans the government's proposing.

00:48:14.000 It's legalizing them.

00:48:15.000 You call for merging our militaries?

00:48:19.000 Merging our I.D.s?

00:48:21.000 We don't call for the end of borders among the countries.

00:48:24.000 You find it in there, where it does.

00:48:26.000 I think you can read what you want into things, but you just find the quote in there that says that we should eliminate the borders.

00:48:33.000 What we do say in there is that we should respect the sovereignty Of all three governments, which to me is exactly the opposite of what you're suggesting we say.

00:48:44.000 No, you've got a little... So you're not reading very well.

00:48:46.000 I've got the quote here.

00:48:47.000 You've got one little comment in here.

00:48:49.000 Let me read the one little comment.

00:48:52.000 Buried in 49 pages of recommendations from the task force, the brief mention, we must maintain respect for each other's sovereignty, but security experts say folding Mexico and Canada into the U.S.

00:49:02.000 is a grave breach of sovereignty.

00:49:04.000 That's Lou Dobbs.

00:49:06.000 And then I have the report right here.

00:49:08.000 He has a problem with comprehension, as you do as well.

00:49:11.000 We never suggest Folding in Mexico and Canada into the United States.

00:49:16.000 First of all, I don't know what that means.

00:49:17.000 Do you know they just passed the national ID card two months ago and in it, it says merging our ID cards with their systems?

00:49:25.000 What do you think that is?

00:49:26.000 It says trying to, it's the real ID, not the national ID.

00:49:31.000 I love how you play some manacle games.

00:49:34.000 It's not semantic.

00:49:36.000 What it calls for is trying to harmonize state driver's licenses.

00:49:41.000 Not between Canada and Mexico, but between the 50 states.

00:49:45.000 Yes, that language is in there.

00:49:47.000 But between the 50 states.

00:49:48.000 I've had four congressmen on about this.

00:49:50.000 We've read the bill on the air, sir.

00:49:52.000 It merges us with Canada and Mexico.

00:49:54.000 The Canadians, the Globe and Mail, CBC, I've got older art, they're pulling their hair out, panicking over it.

00:50:01.000 You're saying it doesn't exist, you know, this is unbelievable!

00:50:06.000 It's like Bush saying, my plan is not amnesty, it just legalizes everybody.

00:50:11.000 I don't know, is that your plan you're talking about?

00:50:13.000 Okay, listen, let me tell you something.

00:50:15.000 Who's plan are you talking about?

00:50:17.000 You have a sardonic attitude towards myself and the listeners.

00:50:21.000 You think you can play these games with us.

00:50:22.000 Not to your listeners, but to you.

00:50:24.000 Mr. Pastor, you are going to lose.

00:50:26.000 What I wrote, what I said, I'm telling you that you're wrong.

00:50:30.000 The New World Order is going down.

00:50:32.000 You are going to fail.

00:50:34.000 You're going to fail in Iraq, you're going to fail worldwide, and you're not going to... I hate to tell you I'm not in Iraq. 0.98

00:50:43.000 I've enjoyed talking with you, and I hope your listeners have learned something.

00:50:50.000 I hope they have learned something, because these little semantical games you play, it's not working.

00:50:54.000 Hey, Doc, you have a great day there in your ivory tower.

00:50:57.000 Bye-bye.

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00:53:59.000 Did you hear that, guys?

00:54:11.000 Bush isn't proposing amnesty.

00:54:13.000 It's just a worker program.

00:54:15.000 Oh, there's no national ID card.

00:54:18.000 It's called the Real ID Act.

00:54:21.000 Oh no, it doesn't deal with Canada and Mexico.

00:54:23.000 No, it's just in the bill.

00:54:27.000 We're only merging our social security with them.

00:54:29.000 They're only building the gigantic mega-highway right now outside Austin.

00:54:36.000 Just east of Austin.

00:54:37.000 I mean, you ought to see it.

00:54:38.000 It's like they're building a... I mean, it's just indescribably huge.

00:54:44.000 They're building the thing.

00:54:45.000 They're openly saying it.

00:54:47.000 And they just keep denying.

00:54:48.000 No, it doesn't exist.

00:54:49.000 No, it's not happening.

00:54:50.000 Oh, the Foreign Affairs, you know, doesn't call for that?

00:54:54.000 Well, mention one place where I say that.

00:54:57.000 I'm not talking about you.

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00:57:06.000 Jeff, in mass.

00:57:07.000 You're on the air.

00:57:08.000 Thanks for holding.

00:57:09.000 Yes, indeed.

00:57:09.000 Alex, you should run for president because you did a great job at debating that guest.

00:57:14.000 I didn't do that good of a job.

00:57:15.000 I mean, having the guy just deny that the sun came up this morning was pretty weird.

00:57:19.000 Oh, yes.

00:57:20.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:57:21.000 And you're right.

00:57:22.000 All that the guy was doing was playing somatical games because you know what?

00:57:26.000 A North American block is a North American block.

00:57:28.000 That means there's going to be no borders.

00:57:30.000 In fact, I have a good book... Their old plan says it!

00:57:33.000 Lou Dobbs said it!

00:57:34.000 A two-year-old could read this!

00:57:36.000 Yes, I have a good book by James Perlop, The Shadows of Power, and it quotes all the articles from Foreign Affairs.

00:57:43.000 That guy you interviewed, he is an intellectual wonk.

00:57:47.000 Because the fact of the matter is, in the Foreign Affairs, Gardner says we shall have The New World Order by consent or by conquest.

00:57:56.000 I think it was Garner who said that.

00:57:57.000 Sir, in my book, Descent into Tyranny, I've probably got 15 CFR quotes in the first couple pages.

00:58:02.000 I mean, listen, I actually take the magazine, the book, it's a book, every two months, I read the thing.

00:58:09.000 And that's just their public propaganda.

00:58:11.000 You read their actual policy reports, it's even worse.

00:58:14.000 Oh yes, you are absolutely right about that.

00:58:16.000 And the sad part is a lot of Americans They don't even know about it, and they don't know the effects that illegal immigration is going to have, which is extreme poverty.

00:58:24.000 I mean, in Cuba, the poor people in Cuba only get $6,000 a month.

00:58:28.000 Oh, aren't you afraid?

00:58:29.000 Did you hear him?

00:58:30.000 Oh, aren't you afraid?

00:58:32.000 You're right!

00:58:34.000 We're not afraid.

00:58:36.000 You're just afraid.

00:58:39.000 Oh, aren't you afraid?

00:58:42.000 It's all ad hoc, homonym attacks on you, Alex. 0.96

00:58:44.000 Well, we're going to defeat these arrogant... 1.00

00:58:46.000 Arrogant creatures. 0.98

00:58:47.000 We'll be right back with the second hour. 0.96

00:58:49.000 Help! 0.98

00:58:53.000 Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Well, we just had a CFR member on in the last hour.

00:59:19.000 Robert A. Pastor, Vice Chair of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America.

00:59:26.000 He's the Vice President of International Affairs at the American University in D.C.

00:59:31.000 And we have this guy on, and, you know, so we'll legalize all the illegal aliens, but that's not legalizing them, and we'll have a common block country. 0.96

00:59:41.000 But that's not an American Union, and Everything's fine. 0.82

00:59:45.000 We're just calling for a new Capitol.

00:59:50.000 I mean, in your face!

00:59:52.000 I got a bunch of other news here about this 12-year-old girl with cancer taken from her parents, and just a bunch of other news.

00:59:58.000 But let's get some more of your great calls out of the way here.

01:00:01.000 Tom in Idaho.

01:00:02.000 Go ahead, Tom.

01:00:03.000 Okay, Alex.

01:00:05.000 I have a comment, and then I'd like your opinion on something.

01:00:10.000 From what I have heard and read from what I consider reliable sources, including your show, the substance depleted uranium used by the US military in Iraq is a horrific substance.

01:00:24.000 The people in Iraq, including our troops, are developing devastating health problems and are dying as a result of depleted uranium.

01:00:35.000 I think this issue could be a unifying issue I think liberals, conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, anyone with a conscience could relate to this issue.

01:00:46.000 Perhaps we could get President Bush impeached with this issue.

01:00:51.000 What do you think?

01:00:53.000 Well, the Democrats have a lot to lose, too, because they used it in Serbia.

01:00:58.000 They've used it in 10 locations here in the U.S.

01:01:01.000 at Proving Grounds, and there's no debating it.

01:01:03.000 The Army's own handbooks, their own reports on it say it's deadly poison, just the heavy metal effects alone, then the cumulative radiological effects as well.

01:01:12.000 We do talk a lot about it.

01:01:14.000 But the media just ignores it, and then neocons say you're an evil liberal if you talk about it, and actually say that it's good for you, it's not bad for you.

01:01:23.000 And the media also says mercury's good for our children.

01:01:25.000 I mean, it's just... 0.99

01:01:26.000 I guess shooting yourself five times in the head is good. 0.75

01:01:29.000 Jumping off a 10,000 foot, you know, building, I guess, is good. 0.99

01:01:33.000 Uh, sticking your hand in a meat grinder must be good.

01:01:37.000 But, uh, no, I mean, it is an important issue because you can't debate it, you can't ignore it.

01:01:42.000 It's a deadly poison, it's bad for our troops, very bad, and they're still using it.

01:01:48.000 Well, I think everybody should call their congressman and try to have it, uh, pushed and teached on this issue.

01:01:56.000 The New York Daily News and others have done the blood test on the troops, and they have upwards of two rims of radiation in them. 0.99

01:02:01.000 But then totally mindless idiots will call into this show and say, I'm evil, and no, DU is good for you. 1.00

01:02:08.000 How dare I say it's bad for you? 1.00

01:02:10.000 How dare I have Dr. Rocky and others on?

01:02:13.000 Well, they'll listen to the propaganda of the controlled media, that's why.

01:02:17.000 But the controlled media doesn't even say it's good for you.

01:02:19.000 They just ignore it.

01:02:20.000 Thanks for the call.

01:02:21.000 Uh, but, uh, you know, let's talk to Mike in Idaho, or Mick in Idaho.

01:02:26.000 Go ahead, Mick, another caller in Idaho.

01:02:28.000 Hey, how you doing, Al?

01:02:29.000 Good.

01:02:29.000 Hey, at least, uh, we're gonna be safe because, uh, the police are forming special gun squads.

01:02:35.000 I told you about that last week.

01:02:36.000 But, uh, what I didn't, what I didn't get through was, they're gonna use federal law to enforce these special For the gun squads.

01:02:44.000 To, you know, protect us out.

01:02:46.000 Yeah, they just built a huge new, a giant new BATF headquarters.

01:02:50.000 Really?

01:02:50.000 Biggest federal building in D.C.

01:02:52.000 And the federal funds are flowing to have gun raids on people's houses and look for guns and gun billboards, anti-gun billboards and checkpoints and everything else!

01:03:02.000 Never mind they can't do anything about the illegals because that's federal.

01:03:05.000 At the same time they want to use federal laws to go after the guns.

01:03:08.000 I mean the local police, and there's a Up in here in Idaho, there's a little town that wants to go after sex crimes on the internet, and they're going to use federal laws there, but they can't do anything about the illegals.

01:03:20.000 Yeah, it all federalizes.

01:03:22.000 That's right.

01:03:23.000 They can't do anything about the illegals, because that's federal. 0.51

01:03:26.000 It's just like any tyrannical government, I guess, huh?

01:03:29.000 I hear you.

01:03:29.000 Of course, they want to, huh?

01:03:31.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:32.000 Good points.

01:03:32.000 I've got another article here about a police chief who is doing the right thing.

01:03:37.000 So that's coming up.

01:03:39.000 After this quick break and a lot of your calls, straight ahead, so stay with us.

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01:07:04.000 The Washington Post today reports new tack against illegal immigrants trespassing charges.

01:07:11.000 The police chief of this tiny whitewashed New England town has crafted his own border control policy.

01:07:18.000 He has charged illegal immigrants from Mexico with trespassing in New Hampshire.

01:07:22.000 The novel legal strategy has made a minor celebrity of W. Garrett Chamberlain, the 36-year-old police chief, hops to his feet and deposits a pile of letters on his desk from Alaskans and Californians, border patrol agents, and soldiers in Iraq, all applauding his initiative.

01:07:43.000 Fox News Communications have called, too, seeking his views on national immigration policy.

01:07:50.000 Chamberlain, who has served as chief for three years, described his actions as born of frustration with the federal government.

01:07:56.000 His officers have discovered illegal immigrants several times, but immigration agents declined to obtain them.

01:08:02.000 I was just saying, wait a minute, we're on heightened alert, and it's post 9-11, and I'm going to let an illegal immigrant, who I don't know from Adam, just walk away? 1.00

01:08:13.000 That includes when they commit crimes, Chamberlain said. 0.99

01:08:16.000 That's ridiculous! 0.95

01:08:17.000 If I find you are in my county illegally, I'm not going to worry about political correctness. 1.00

01:08:23.000 I will detain you!

01:08:25.000 So another shot is fired in the often-tested debate over U.S.

01:08:28.000 immigration policy and border security, a battle fraught with political and ethnic anxieties.

01:08:36.000 Already, another police chief, Richard E. Gendron, in nearby Hudson, New Hampshire, has followed suit.

01:08:43.000 A few days ago, Gendron brought trespassing charges against two illegal immigrants from Mexico after his officers stopped a van with a broken headlight.

01:08:51.000 Several police chiefs in New Hampshire have suggested that they might pursue such tactics in the future.

01:08:58.000 For now, however, the eyes are trained on New Esprich, a town of 4,200 people, set in the Green Hills, just north of Massachusetts' border.

01:09:07.000 The Mexican immigrant, Jose Mora Ramirez, faces trial on the trespassing charges in July, and the two Mexicans arrested in Hudson will be tried later this month.

01:09:16.000 The Mexican Consulate has hired an attorney for Ramirez, fearing that a court may uphold the trespassing charge, and so set a national precedent.

01:09:25.000 The Mexican government is understandably worried that this could become the charge du jour across the country.

01:09:33.000 Folks, understand, they have automobile accidents, they rob people, they rape, they kill, and they will, it was in the Houston Chronicle last year, 400,000 felon illegals Ordered release out of jails because the feds won't take them. 0.89

01:09:49.000 You actually are a first class super citizen if you're an illegal alien from Russia or Mexico or wherever.

01:09:56.000 We're always talking about Mexico because that's the majority here.

01:09:59.000 They got this Canadian with a bloody chainsaw and bloody hatchet foaming at the mouth and they just let him across the border and then find all the dead bodies. 0.99

01:10:07.000 He's a white guy, now we're against white people. 0.99

01:10:11.000 No! 0.98

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01:10:30.000 It's a joke!

01:10:31.000 They want to merge this country.

01:10:33.000 They've ordered the Border Patrol to stand down.

01:10:36.000 And that's what they're doing!

01:10:37.000 They're killing this country!

01:10:40.000 And I'm sick of it! 0.99

01:10:44.000 Bunch of slimeballs at the CFR think it's funny destroying America. 0.99

01:10:48.000 We're going to stop these traitors! 0.97

01:10:54.000 And I'm telling you, it's time to do something about this.

01:10:56.000 It's time to take action and get sheriffs elected that will enforce the law.

01:11:00.000 That's why 25% of the country's already gotten rid of their sheriffs.

01:11:04.000 The cities that are totally unlawful and totally crackerjack police forces go and take over the sheriff's departments.

01:11:11.000 Why do we put up with this?

01:11:13.000 It's time to put our people in! 0.98

01:11:16.000 It's part of the globalist plan to shut down our wages, to bring in a police state, and we gotta stop it!

01:11:23.000 Paul in New York.

01:11:24.000 Go ahead, Paul.

01:11:29.000 Hello?

01:11:29.000 All right.

01:11:29.000 Yes, go ahead.

01:11:31.000 Hey, I just had two points I wanted to mention, and also something separately at the end.

01:11:36.000 Okay, make your points, go ahead.

01:11:37.000 First one is, today, the House Judiciary Committee, did you watch that with Spencer Brenner when he just outright stopped the debate, walked off while the Republican, I'm sorry, the Representatives were For those who don't know, Simpson-Brenner wants a Nazi-Stasi bill, where if you don't chattel on all your neighbors, even for suspicion of drugs, you get multi-years in prison and a million dollar fine. 0.92

01:11:59.000 What is that sack of maggots doing now?

01:12:02.000 Well, he basically just closed the session with the objection of the representatives on Democratic side not getting any chance to respond. 0.97

01:12:10.000 So because somebody objected, he threw a fit and stomped off?

01:12:13.000 He threw a fit while they were speaking.

01:12:15.000 I have the video.

01:12:16.000 It was on C-SPAN, too. 0.99

01:12:17.000 Well, cue that sucker up! 1.00

01:12:18.000 Let's hear it! 0.99

01:12:21.000 Um, it's actually a video clip.

01:12:22.000 I don't have it set up on the phone right now, but I can get you a copy of it, which is wonderful.

01:12:26.000 But separately, I also wanted you to make a connection, not make a connection, but elaborate on the Giuliani and Mexico City, a security company, have been paid millions to run security for there.

01:12:35.000 How convenient is that now that we're trying to get a cap established?

01:12:38.000 That would be an automatic tie security.

01:12:39.000 Well yeah, we had a bunch of weasels attack the hen house and so we've now put the chief weasel in charge and that's Giuliani's payoff as he runs around running security systems.

01:12:54.000 And that's in my new film, Exposing Giuliani.

01:12:57.000 And I mean, here they are!

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01:13:00.000 It's in the document.

01:13:01.000 Pan-American Union, no more borders, merging our troops with Mexico and Canada.

01:13:05.000 The Canadians are freaking out over it, but the average American's drooling in the corner going, huh?

01:13:11.000 There's no such thing!

01:13:12.000 It's happening.

01:13:13.000 Did you hear that guy last hour?

01:13:17.000 Did you hear that CFR guy I had on last hour?

01:13:19.000 I did.

01:13:20.000 I heard about the last 20 minutes, and actually I wanted to have some of his old articles, because I actually have a subscription as well.

01:13:27.000 And what I love is that when it comes down to talking about an issue intelligently, they do start throwing words at you.

01:13:34.000 Well, that's right.

01:13:36.000 They've got to hide the full scope of what they're doing, and every time they stick their heads up, they get them whacked off.

01:13:43.000 How nice was it to see him say that about the CFR when you asked him if he's a member and the comment he made.

01:13:49.000 You know, again, basically psychology lets somebody give up their interpretation of the CFR by asking them the question.

01:13:55.000 Well, let me ask you a question about Sensenbrenner.

01:13:57.000 So, they're about to have a hearing about his new bill to turn us all into Stasi.

01:14:01.000 Oh, we busted your neighbor with some marijuana.

01:14:03.000 We got proof you knew.

01:14:05.000 You're going to jail for five years.

01:14:07.000 How's that sound?

01:14:09.000 And again, it's all federally controlled.

01:14:14.000 What did Simpson-Brenner do?

01:14:18.000 This is a Patriot Act.

01:14:19.000 They were trying to discuss the revisions on the Patriot Act earlier today, hence the House Judiciary Committee.

01:14:24.000 And James Rodley was there.

01:14:27.000 There were some other representatives from international human rights groups.

01:14:32.000 And basically he was to speak about the issues, the human rights issues that are attached to the revisions of the sunset clauses right now with Patriot Act 2.

01:14:40.000 And basically, when he gave his opinion, and the opinion of course is not going to be a nice, polite one towards the administration here right now, he just gave his comments, which was, I don't see any proof of this.

01:14:51.000 I'll give you one week to give me proof of these specific claims against the U.S.

01:14:58.000 I believe everyone in this country is attaching everything that they find wrong with their day to the Patriot Act, and I'll elaborate on that.

01:15:04.000 Alright, thanks for the call.

01:15:06.000 Please send me that video.

01:15:06.000 I appreciate that.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, every...

01:15:09.000 It's a conspiracy why the Patriot Act's nothing but good.

01:15:14.000 I'd love to march in there and show where they're using the Patriot Act against topless bars, pot dealers, Rubik's Cube sellers, you name it.

01:15:23.000 I mean, they're using it against one of their own people that was ordered to torture, tortured somebody to death, and they go, well, you don't get due process, and you can't have lawyers, and you can't have bond, and you can't face your accusers, and we're keeping the testimony secret under the Patriot Act.

01:15:39.000 They're using it against their own henchmen!

01:15:43.000 Let's talk to Skunk in Missouri. 0.77

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01:15:48.000 First, I want to jump off with just a quick point. 0.99

01:15:49.000 This CFR guy that you had on earlier, he's just so ignorant. 0.96

01:15:53.000 He is not going to figure it out until he's driving down the road with his family, and boom, there's machine guns and checkpoints. 0.99

01:15:59.000 He's a lost cause.

01:16:00.000 People like that are lost causes.

01:16:02.000 Secondly, A lot of people don't believe that an infrastructure is being set up.

01:16:09.000 When I keep telling people, you know, there is going to be something coming down.

01:16:12.000 The freedoms we know are going to be gone.

01:16:15.000 And most of the time people will say, well, how are they going to do it?

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01:16:21.000 It doesn't matter.

01:16:23.000 The cameras, the electronic brain... Sir, I don't care how crazy that sounds.

01:16:28.000 I have AP.

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01:16:30.000 I have the Pentagon's own statements.

01:16:32.000 I've interviewed the generals and the colonels who've been in the meetings.

01:16:36.000 They are going to use Mexican troops all over the United States.

01:16:41.000 It is openly in the plan.

01:16:44.000 I mean, what people need to realize is it's not, oh, if it happens or it's going to happen, it's happening.

01:16:50.000 People need to stand up.

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01:16:52.000 Sir, I've been at the drills where German, Dutch, British, Australian troops are openly training to put us in camps.

01:17:01.000 I just got to give a plug to your video, please stay three to take over.

01:17:06.000 I actually had a viewing of this last night and I had about a dozen people, you know, not a lot, but a dozen is more than none.

01:17:14.000 And out of the dozen, two of them got there and kept reiterating, oh, this is bold, this is staged.

01:17:21.000 And it's just they didn't want to see it.

01:17:23.000 You know, a blind person that can't physically see yearns to see, to get a glimpse at anything. 0.98

01:17:30.000 People that have a blind mind's eye, they're lost causes.

01:17:34.000 I mean, there's nothing that anybody can do for them.

01:17:36.000 I mean, they're going to be the ones with the chain around their neck, pushing the rock down the hill with the master with the whip.

01:17:41.000 But you're saying that eight or ten of the people did wake up.

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01:17:46.000 They were looking at it.

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01:17:57.000 If I had a DVD burner, I would be burning them by the gross.

01:18:01.000 I mean... So, I mean, did you challenge the two people that thought it was made up and say, well, just prove some of this?

01:18:06.000 I mean, what...

01:18:07.000 I did.

01:18:08.000 And the only thing that they could say is when they were looking at a lot of the video coverage and like the video clips from Seattle, from the Northern California Marine operation, they were saying, oh, that's not real.

01:18:21.000 That's not real.

01:18:22.000 That's something out of a movie.

01:18:24.000 I think I might have seen that before.

01:18:26.000 No, I know.

01:18:27.000 I have been accused of hiring helicopters and the Coronado aircraft carrier No, I'm not.

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01:18:36.000 Folks, I mean, there was actually a news article written about three years ago accusing me.

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01:18:47.000 It's not real, folks.

01:18:49.000 I hired them.

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01:22:51.000 Yeah, in Police State 2000, we show some of that video again in Police State 3 total enslavement.

01:23:07.000 We have video from all over the country.

01:23:10.000 From Maryland and North Carolina and Alabama and Central Texas and South Texas.

01:23:18.000 But the most horrible video, the most incriminating is at Operation Urban Warrior in 1999 in Central California.

01:23:30.000 They're just north of San Francisco.

01:23:34.000 In Oakland.

01:23:36.000 And I've had quite a few people accuse me.

01:23:39.000 I mean, I'm there, with a video camera, thousands of troops, helicopters, and they're... It's... I mean, there's the names of the Colonel, Colonel Love, that I was talking to, and we show the mock interrogations, and, you know, they're doing a drill.

01:23:54.000 And they've got role players that are hired to do all of this.

01:23:58.000 The people that are denying this can just type Urban Warrior 1999 in and they'll get Marine Corps websites with photos of the people I interviewed.

01:24:07.000 And then they can see Urban Warrior 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004.

01:24:08.000 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004.

01:24:12.000 They just had 2005 up in Maryland.

01:24:15.000 And they did live fire checkpoints.

01:24:19.000 They even arrest citizens now in the United States.

01:24:21.000 In 99 it was just drills, now they actually set up checkpoints.

01:24:24.000 So, some of the people you had at your house watching the video, they said that I actually staged this?

01:24:31.000 Yes, they were leaning towards the opinion that, you know, it isn't real, that their general clips, you know, bought and then, you know, cut into your video, that it was just for theatrical purposes.

01:24:42.000 And I tried to reiterate and explain them.

01:24:43.000 I pointed them to my laptop, I said, Hey look, there's my laptop right there.

01:24:47.000 Go on there, check out everything that you're in question about right now.

01:24:51.000 I want to change your attitude, but you know it's like some people, it's just like when I was a kid.

01:24:56.000 I got hit with an axe in the knee and I didn't feel a thing.

01:24:58.000 That's because trauma set in to protect me.

01:25:01.000 A lot of these people, I think it's almost a mental trauma where they see it, they get so overwhelmed by it, but their brain instantly kicks in and says, well it isn't real, don't worry about it.

01:25:12.000 And that is the complete wrong attitude to have.

01:25:14.000 People honestly The other ten people that were in here were looking and they were like, you know, it's crazy.

01:25:20.000 Look, that's not, you know, that's not fake.

01:25:22.000 This is the actual military sitting here.

01:25:23.000 You know, this isn't Hollywood.

01:25:25.000 And then, you know, the only two people, one of them left before the end, and the other one left like right at the end of it, and then left and walked out, and then everybody else kind of hung out for a while and chatted.

01:25:33.000 You know, we had some drinks afterwards and whatnot.

01:25:36.000 Well, the budget on that video was about $10,000.

01:25:38.000 I mean, do they think I can hire twin-prop helicopters and Cobra and Apache gunships and have giant hovercraft coming off of the Coronado?

01:25:52.000 As well as thousands of extras.

01:25:54.000 I mean, it's just, it's pathetic when, you know, it's like you have to pick and choose your battles of who you want.

01:26:00.000 I mean, we have a giant ship in the harbor with huge hovercraft coming off.

01:26:04.000 Yeah.

01:26:04.000 And then I walk over and interview the troops.

01:26:07.000 And exactly, you know, I think I just shut down Oakland Highways and... Absolutely, absolutely.

01:26:13.000 And I mean, like I said, you got to pick and choose your battles.

01:26:16.000 You know, there's people out there that, you know, They don't know, and they're skeptical, but they're willing to hear about it, to make their own opinion.

01:26:22.000 And then there's other people that are just completely shut down.

01:26:25.000 No, I know! 0.99

01:26:25.000 It's like the guy... Look, the media isn't stupid. 0.99

01:26:28.000 When they run newscasts saying, Mercury's good for your children, they must know there's a crowd out there that will believe anything. 0.95

01:26:34.000 Exactly.

01:26:35.000 Exactly.

01:26:36.000 Or when, you know, somebody calls in and says, I'm a liar, DU isn't bad for you.

01:26:40.000 You know, it's like, here, here's a bowl of sugar-coated asbestos.

01:26:42.000 Enjoy.

01:26:43.000 You know?

01:26:44.000 People just don't...

01:26:45.000 Don't want to see.

01:26:46.000 And it's really sad.

01:26:47.000 It's not even sugar-coated.

01:26:48.000 They just go, this is asbestos as it tastes.

01:26:50.000 Yeah, and it's tough because people don't realize that, you know, the war is already underway.

01:26:56.000 People, you know, sitting there going, well, you know, if this was going this way... When's it coming?

01:27:00.000 When's it coming?

01:27:01.000 I mean, it's coming every day.

01:27:03.000 Look at what they're doing to our society.

01:27:04.000 And not even that.

01:27:05.000 Why do you think, you know, you get a speeding ticket in, you know, I'm from Massachusetts.

01:27:05.000 It's here.

01:27:10.000 I got a speeding ticket in Georgia.

01:27:13.000 And, you know, people don't want to think about a national ID.

01:27:15.000 Well, look it, when I got a speeding ticket in Georgia, I forgot to pay it.

01:27:18.000 My license was suspended in Georgia, and then it was also suspended in all the linked states.

01:27:23.000 I didn't know if you knew that, but you know... Yeah, sure, no.

01:27:25.000 Yeah, and...

01:27:28.000 If people don't want to believe it, I mean, it's really sad.

01:27:30.000 Because there's so many good people out there that do nothing.

01:27:33.000 Well, they're going to pass laws now where if we don't tattle on our neighbors, we go to prison.

01:27:38.000 All over the country, they're paying the kids to quote, report on their parents.

01:27:44.000 The problem is, is parents even have to teach their kids?

01:27:47.000 From, you know, my daughter, I have two daughters, two and a half and six months.

01:27:51.000 I'm already teaching my daughter, you know, the family values.

01:27:54.000 That, you know, what is said in the house stays in the house.

01:27:57.000 That, you know, the family is the first thing.

01:27:59.000 You know, and that's the problem.

01:28:01.000 Parents out there don't really care about their kids.

01:28:03.000 They don't invest the time.

01:28:04.000 Well, I mean, number one, in America and throughout world history, the first thing you teach your children is the family comes first.

01:28:11.000 Exactly.

01:28:11.000 You never go against your family.

01:28:13.000 No matter what.

01:28:13.000 Exactly.

01:28:15.000 You know, it's us against the rest of the world.

01:28:17.000 Now they teach them the opposite and parents mindlessly trash their government, do whatever they say.

01:28:23.000 They park them in front of a TV and then let the systems raise them.

01:28:27.000 I mean, it's just that.

01:28:28.000 Alright, Alex, have a good weekend.

01:28:29.000 Alright, thank you, Skunk.

01:28:31.000 All right, a bunch of other callers coming up, a bunch of news, and another guest as well.

01:28:35.000 Well, stay with us.

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01:32:17.000 Twelve-year-old with cancer taken from her parents.

01:32:20.000 Little Miss Wernicke.

01:32:23.000 Folks don't want radiation treatment, but state claims it's best option for girl. 0.75

01:32:28.000 A state couple is fighting to regain custody of their 12-year-old cancer-stricken daughter after the state seized the girl, claiming her parents have not done enough to treat her.

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01:32:41.000 A judge has postponed until tomorrow a ruling on whether or not doctors can treat Katie Wernicke against her parents' wishes, KPRC-TV in Houston reported.

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01:33:36.000 They want to pass a law to make you take vaccines and claim that.

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01:33:44.000 Speaking this morning on NBC's Today Show, Michael Wernicke said her daughter's issues is unique and should be treated as such.

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01:33:57.000 Nobody will look at that, she said.

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01:34:03.000 Her body is not standard.

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01:34:11.000 The Wernicke's, members of the Church of God, have said they oppose blood transfusions, unless they are from Kate's mother.

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01:34:20.000 I mean, I wouldn't take it because of that.

01:34:21.000 But she is not a match, according to doctors.

01:34:25.000 Their attorney, Daniel Horn, however, said religion isn't an issue.

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01:34:41.000 They just want to be informed of their treatment.

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01:34:46.000 Last week, the state issued an AMBER alert.

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01:34:51.000 That led to the seizure of Kate, who has undergone tests at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. 0.90

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01:35:02.000 The couple's three sons were also taken and are in a foster home.

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01:35:08.000 Got to take them too!

01:35:10.000 Michael Wernicke was arrested on charges of interfering with child custody and was released Monday after posting a $50,000 bond.

01:35:18.000 According to KPRC-TV, Juvenile Court Judge Carl Lewis said in a hearing Wednesday, he would wait until Friday to make the decision on the radiation treatment after receiving more information from doctors.

01:35:29.000 They're fighting for their daughter's life right now.

01:35:31.000 And I have the local Corpus Christi, that's the nearest big town, news reports, she does not have cancer anymore, she's in remission.

01:35:38.000 These greedy, bloodthirsty doctors want more money.

01:35:43.000 They want to be able to zap her with that radiation. 1.00

01:35:47.000 Oh boy.

01:35:49.000 So... Really sad.

01:35:53.000 But why grab the other three children?

01:35:55.000 They say that the father, just when they said turn the girl in, didn't.

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01:36:12.000 And I've seen cases with families that don't know their rights where they refuse to vaccinate where they take the children.

01:36:17.000 I've seen cases where a 8-year-old girl complains because she's made to go to school.

01:36:25.000 Made to go to church class on Sundays.

01:36:28.000 And so they seize the girl and give her to a lesbian family who then pimps her out. 1.00

01:36:32.000 And at age 12 she was seen escaping in chains down the street.

01:36:35.000 The family got the daughter back.

01:36:37.000 The judge ordered the family to get the daughter back. 0.70

01:36:39.000 And the lesbians beat the family up on the steps because the police were their buddies. 1.00

01:36:43.000 And loaded the girl in the car for a public kidnapping. 0.98

01:36:46.000 And nothing was ever done.

01:36:48.000 You think I'm joking?

01:36:49.000 That's a real story.

01:36:51.000 So, that's the kind of stuff that's going on in this country and around the world.

01:36:58.000 And, uh, we're scheduled to have Mr. Wernicke on in ten minutes.

01:37:02.000 He's literally fighting for his life, outside bars, and the family's future.

01:37:08.000 Let's go quickly to calls right now.

01:37:10.000 Uh, let's go ahead and, uh, hmm, who's up next here?

01:37:16.000 Rita in Illinois.

01:37:17.000 Go ahead, Rita.

01:37:18.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:37:20.000 Hi.

01:37:21.000 You didn't get to go with that guy, but he cheated.

01:37:25.000 Your CFR guy.

01:37:25.000 Oh, the CFR guy.

01:37:27.000 We're getting rid of the borders, but we're not getting rid of the borders.

01:37:29.000 And we have a national ID card, but it's not really a national ID card because it's a real ID.

01:37:35.000 You know what?

01:37:36.000 When he came back on you, you should have just rephrased the question.

01:37:39.000 How does that not mean, you know what I mean, that it's not one thing?

01:37:43.000 You're going to have one government, but it's still going to be different governments.

01:37:46.000 Well, the thing is, Chris got you the other day.

01:37:49.000 He called in and he just kept saying, oh, I've read all your stuff.

01:37:49.000 I heard that Chris.

01:37:53.000 And I agree with most of it, but, and then you didn't ask him, what did you read?

01:37:58.000 And he would have been lost.

01:37:59.000 And this guy did it to you.

01:38:00.000 But now, he said that he read your stuff so many times, this Chris guy.

01:38:04.000 You only mentioned it once.

01:38:05.000 Well, what I said was, I said, I've read a lot of CFR.

01:38:10.000 People and it seems that their main thrust is for world government.

01:38:13.000 And he said, what have I written?

01:38:14.000 What have I written?

01:38:15.000 What have I written?

01:38:16.000 That's what you should have done to Crick.

01:38:18.000 But I mean, but I... But he wouldn't have had answers.

01:38:20.000 But ma'am, I handled it correctly.

01:38:22.000 I said, I'm talking about the CFR.

01:38:26.000 I mean, he showed us who he was.

01:38:27.000 Well, the thing is, now, you know, if you can get people to laugh, first of all, if you want to change people's minds, get them to laugh a little bit, because what you do, you know, I don't want to say hi, but you raise the endorphin levels if you get them laughing.

01:38:39.000 I can get people laughing at the New World Order.

01:38:41.000 I've been working on that.

01:38:42.000 Yeah, there are these social climbers that do whatever the establishment says to get power and control.

01:38:49.000 They've always been with us and this guy does what he does so he can have his highfalutin position as the head of a university.

01:38:56.000 Well see you're a didactic and he's a dialectic.

01:38:59.000 You came at him because you don't often get a chance to talk to a CFR.

01:39:02.000 He gets this little media stuff all the time.

01:39:05.000 So he projected his reality upon you, of you, on you.

01:39:10.000 And because he used dirty tricks, and you did get him a couple of times, but the thing is, he used his dirty little dialectic tricks.

01:39:16.000 But to fight with the dialectics, okay, so he says he embraces diverse thoughts.

01:39:20.000 I'm telling people now, you know what?

01:39:22.000 If my water filter embraced diversity, I would have doggie doo, I would have dead flies, I would have sticks and oil slicks in my water. 1.00

01:39:30.000 And they laughed at that.

01:39:32.000 And then the next thing, after the embracing the diversity thing, I always like to tell them that, you know, well, one of the other things is that in Africa, the old saying is that, you know, when the wolves own all the newspapers, all sheep will become criminals. 0.55

01:39:48.000 And contrary to Oprah's polls, you know, that the wolves and sheep cannot live and coexist, you know, on an equal playing field and embrace each other.

01:39:58.000 You know, no matter how many times a wolf tell you that they can do that.

01:40:01.000 But you can take this guy, he was a punk, I could get him.

01:40:04.000 As a news group talk, what you want to get is people to, you want to make himself implode.

01:40:10.000 In the news group game, when you're fighting with somebody, if you could get them to go to capital letters first, they lost because they shouted at you.

01:40:16.000 Because you get them to this point where it does not compute.

01:40:19.000 It does not compute.

01:40:20.000 And then they just start screaming at you.

01:40:21.000 Well, I frankly don't spend all my time arguing with people.

01:40:23.000 I brought him on to show you what they're all about.

01:40:27.000 Thanks for the call, Rita.

01:40:28.000 David in Illinois.

01:40:29.000 David, go ahead.

01:40:30.000 Hello, Alex.

01:40:33.000 I thought Rita did a good job there. 1.00

01:40:35.000 She's talking about the science of communications and she I agree with what she said.

01:40:41.000 He accused you of being fearful and your audience of being fearful and instilling fear in your audience when in truth that's exactly their modus operandi.

01:40:52.000 Yeah, we've got to have this Pan American Union to stop the terrorists when that's exactly what will quote allow the terrorists to attack us.

01:41:01.000 Without instilling fear they have no Well, he was giving me the outro.

01:41:05.000 go along with what it is they're wanting to do.

01:41:07.000 Well, yeah, accuse those of what you do.

01:41:09.000 Exactly.

01:41:10.000 So, yeah, I would always point that out.

01:41:13.000 And I wish he could have stayed on longer because he was actually hanging himself.

01:41:17.000 And like you said, he was showing us what he was about.

01:41:19.000 I wish he'd have been on there longer to provide some good quotes.

01:41:23.000 Well, he was giving me the outro.

01:41:26.000 He was saying, well, it's been nice being on your show.

01:41:28.000 Right.

01:41:30.000 Well, listen, I appreciate you having him on because, you know, we need to hear more of them to get those quotes and to hear their logic and everything.

01:41:39.000 And if you listen to him closely, after the fear factor was over with, what he would go back to was the consolidation and the economic motive that they have behind this whole thing.

01:41:50.000 Well, he also had the nerve to say that by building these NAFTA highways and by, quote, you know, having the guest worker program, blanket amnesty, and then he'd say that that is an amnesty.

01:42:02.000 No, no, because he changes the name.

01:42:04.000 Well, it still makes it, I mean, you could call a wolf a gooblesnapper.

01:42:08.000 It's still a wolf. 0.89

01:42:09.000 Just because he goes, no, it's not a wolf, I've changed the name to gooblesnapper, I mean, it's ridiculous.

01:42:16.000 Yeah, Alex, you're doing a great job, and thanks for having him on.

01:42:19.000 It really shows us what type of logic they employ, what type of arguments they employ.

01:42:27.000 Well, did you hear the elitism, too?

01:42:29.000 The giggling?

01:42:29.000 Oh, sure.

01:42:30.000 But he didn't giggle at the end when I said, we're going to defeat you.

01:42:33.000 No, because I tell you what, in the back of their minds, I'm sure that they are probably scared to death.

01:42:41.000 Their biggest threat, grip on control is the internet the airwaves uh tape ministries and so on so uh they know that if they're going to shut this down they're going to have to do to that type of communication what they've done to public education and that is destroy it hey alex you've done a great job and i'll let you go to your next caller Thank you, sir.

01:43:04.000 You're doing a great job as well.

01:43:05.000 Let's talk to George in Toronto, Canada.

01:43:08.000 Go ahead, George.

01:43:09.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

01:43:10.000 Hello.

01:43:11.000 Well, one of my Georgisms is, ignorance is the one crime that is still punishable by death.

01:43:17.000 However, we are still impaneled as judge and jury to alter our fate.

01:43:21.000 And by working together, we will alter our fate and these people won't take advantage of us.

01:43:26.000 There's been some serious revelations in the Canadian press And since they don't get that much exposure in your country, I thought I'd bring it to your attention.

01:43:35.000 The last survivor out of the World Trade Center was interviewed in the National Post last Friday and on Monday.

01:43:44.000 And he had quite a story to tell.

01:43:47.000 He's been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, so he's never told his story before.

01:43:51.000 So this is a clean, unblemished account of what happened in the final minutes.

01:43:56.000 And he traversed the area Where we're supposed to have this fire that melted steel without wearing any protective equipment.

01:44:04.000 He saw no flames, just smoke.

01:44:07.000 When he got to the bottom and he was fleeing the building, there was an explosion.

01:44:12.000 A giant fireball that blew him out of the building and into the rubble where he was found unconscious and taken to hospital.

01:44:19.000 No, I know!

01:44:19.000 That's what firefighters and police said happened.

01:44:22.000 We've got about a hundred people on record or more The point is, Alex, this is in the National Post.

01:44:29.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:44:32.000 Is this just buried in there, or is this the headline?

01:44:34.000 It's a full-page article in the paper.

01:44:37.000 And another very interesting thing that was in the National Post yesterday is they're having like a confessional where people can confess their deepest, darkest secrets and publish them online.

01:44:48.000 One blew me away yesterday.

01:44:50.000 There's two pictures of the World Trade Center, like a drawing with smoke coming out.

01:44:54.000 And the caption of this person's confession is, everyone who knew me before 9-11 believes I'm dead.

01:45:03.000 And I'd like to know who that individual is, and if he ever listens, you should come forward because we need to know what really happened to you.

01:45:11.000 Speaking of the National Post, they've had articles about the CFR plan.

01:45:16.000 Even before they publicly announced it three weeks ago, and Canadians are openly saying this is the end of our country.

01:45:23.000 Oh, exactly.

01:45:23.000 You walk into any library and look in the political science section about globalization issues or anything, and you should just fall over with the amount of material you can carry away.

01:45:34.000 And this is all from reputable universities or various professors who would ever explain their logical rationale.

01:45:40.000 Their own report says the end of our sovereignty!

01:45:44.000 Their own report says the end of our borders!

01:45:46.000 Oh, exactly.

01:45:47.000 But we're not lost.

01:45:48.000 You know, I did Press International published a piece I wrote in the Washington Times.

01:45:52.000 It's called the Citizens Manifesto.

01:45:54.000 And I did a legal brief on how we can defeat them taking the law into our hands.

01:45:59.000 And I applied contract law to constitutional law, which has never been done before.

01:46:03.000 The government has a contract with us.

01:46:06.000 As long as they maintain our rights and freedoms, we allow them to be the government.

01:46:10.000 When they break the contract, we are no longer obligated to follow along.

01:46:14.000 There are four levels of government.

01:46:16.000 The executive, the congress, the courts, And finally, the citizens.

01:46:20.000 We're the citizens.

01:46:21.000 When the others don't serve us, we have to exert our power and authority.

01:46:25.000 And we interface with the government at the jury box, the grand jury box, and the ballot box, but the Declaration of Independence clearly states it isn't just a right, it is a duty, that when government becomes destructive of the people's liberties and freedoms, we must overthrow it and rebuild it.

01:46:41.000 Thanks for the call.

01:46:42.000 Thanks.

01:46:43.000 You bet.

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01:52:50.000 individual results may vary we're scheduled early in the next hour to have the father of a young twelve-year-old who doesn't have cancer who they want to radiate We're scheduled to have him on.

01:53:17.000 He's in between meetings with lawyers, meetings with doctors.

01:53:21.000 We really appreciate him trying to get on the show with us, and that's coming up.

01:53:25.000 Right now, let's go ahead and go back to the calls of John in Florida.

01:53:28.000 Go ahead, John.

01:53:29.000 Hello, Alex.

01:53:30.000 Hello.

01:53:31.000 I haven't called in in quite a long time.

01:53:33.000 I've taken to listening to a rebroadcast of your show at night.

01:53:37.000 That's why VTJ here in Pensacola doesn't carry much during the daytime, but today I was luckily able to tune in.

01:53:46.000 You sure have lit a fire out there on the range, young man.

01:53:50.000 Good for you.

01:53:52.000 The sheriff, I believe it was, up there in New Hampshire?

01:53:56.000 Yes, arresting illegal aliens. 0.82

01:53:57.000 Right, that's why I'm calling in, because I kind of want to tie in something.

01:54:00.000 I hit the news here in the Pensacola area on Wednesday.

01:54:04.000 Before Ivan the Hurricane hit, almost a year ago, ten months actually I guess, there were only three arrests of Hispanic-type people in the county here in Alonco.

01:54:22.000 Since then, The news has reported that they have over 60.

01:54:26.000 They did not specify exactly how many.

01:54:29.000 This in turn has now caused the local authorities to start hiring interpreters.

01:54:36.000 We also have an influx of these workers here, that's what I'm basically talking about, that are doing a lot of the reconstruction.

01:54:45.000 They're bringing their families.

01:54:46.000 You know, the families are now going into the school system.

01:54:51.000 It's, you know, adding to the tax burden in many, many ways.

01:54:55.000 And just in that light also, about last week, across the street, houses being worked on by several different crews of all Latino-type people that have been arriving in different vehicles, but predominantly one has been a vehicle with Texas plates.

01:55:12.000 But if you break one law yourself, you're going under the jail.

01:55:17.000 Well, listen to this.

01:55:18.000 I was out working on my car on a drive when this young guy comes across.

01:55:22.000 He starts talking to me in broken English about maybe doing some work on our property.

01:55:29.000 And I said, no thanks, etc.

01:55:30.000 Well, his wife came over and she did a better job of speaking English, so I was inclined to ask him where they were from, because I thought maybe they were from Texas, out near part of the world.

01:55:37.000 No, it seems they're from international foreign, well, Minnesota.

01:55:43.000 And they're down here and they intend to relocate down here because of the climate.

01:55:48.000 But they're all over the place.

01:55:50.000 You know, from coast to coast and border to border.

01:55:55.000 Sir, they say 30 million.

01:55:57.000 It's more than that.

01:56:00.000 And that's just the people from Latin America. 0.88

01:56:03.000 There's all the Chinese, the Russians... This guy I suspect was Honduran. 1.00

01:56:07.000 I spent some time in Honduras and he wouldn't tell me what part of Central America he was from.

01:56:11.000 I know.

01:56:13.000 Very guarded.

01:56:14.000 Well, you know, all these illegal aliens that are here now, they're all going to lose their jobs the next wave. 0.98

01:56:19.000 Yeah.

01:56:21.000 It's insane.

01:56:22.000 Anyway, great interview with that CFR guy.

01:56:25.000 It's too bad that he wasn't willing to stay on a bit longer.

01:56:32.000 I mean, it was just all total double think. 1.00

01:56:34.000 Oh yeah, I mean these people are mentally ill. 1.00

01:56:36.000 You know, they really are. 0.97

01:56:37.000 How do we get them reprogrammed through some re-education center?

01:56:41.000 Or like, you know, or like in Clockwork Orange, the Le Dovco technique.

01:56:47.000 Take care, man.

01:56:49.000 Good talking to you.

01:56:49.000 Pete!

01:56:51.000 Pete, you're on the air.

01:56:52.000 Go ahead.

01:56:53.000 Hello?

01:56:53.000 Yes, Pete.

01:56:54.000 Hi.

01:56:55.000 Alex, hi.

01:56:56.000 Long time listener, and I wanted to bring something up.

01:57:00.000 Yes!

01:57:00.000 share with you and your audience and it's referring to the your CFR guest yes part of as a listener okay I listen to you for years part of as a listener it's what you say and what your guest says and then it's just like this he said he said he said she said things I want to relate to you something that I witnessed I saw Bill Clinton say it himself.

01:57:25.000 All right, I want to hear this on the other side.

01:57:27.000 Okay.

01:57:28.000 We'll be right back.

01:57:29.000 Third hour, your calls, a ton of news, and a guest in the wings.

01:57:33.000 So we'll be right back.

01:57:34.000 Please stay with us.

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01:57:40.000 Hello, folks.

01:57:44.000 Big Brother.

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01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:58.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we're now into hour number three on this live Friday edition.

01:58:18.000 We are scheduled sometime in this hour to get the father of the 12-year-old girl who doesn't have cancer anymore.

01:58:26.000 But still, she's been kidnapped.

01:58:28.000 Her other three siblings have been kidnapped.

01:58:31.000 They just got the kidnapped children back this morning.

01:58:33.000 They haven't gotten her back this morning.

01:58:35.000 And he's busy with lawyers and doctors and they're going into court in a few hours.

01:58:39.000 But we're going to try to get him on here in the next 15-20 minutes.

01:58:43.000 He scheduled a call in during a break.

01:58:45.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls, talking about a whole host of issues.

01:58:49.000 Up next is Ron in Louisiana.

01:58:52.000 Or wait, were we still talking to Pete?

01:58:54.000 Yeah, Pete was still making a point.

01:58:55.000 Go ahead, Pete.

01:58:58.000 You had a story to tell about Bill Clinton.

01:59:00.000 Yes, that's right.

01:59:02.000 I think, listening to your show, and especially with your guest before the CFR, he was saying, oh no, that doesn't exist.

01:59:08.000 I heard Bill Clinton say it with my own ears, okay?

01:59:12.000 Bill Clinton was at Yale University on Halloween Day 2003, and it was his 30th anniversary reunion, and he spoke with mostly undergraduates at this hall, McConnachie Hall, in New Haven.

01:59:28.000 There was an email lottery, I won the lottery, I attended.

01:59:31.000 And he spoke, basically, and he's an excellent speaker, I mean, regardless of what you think about his politics, Bill Clinton, he's very entertaining.

01:59:40.000 He was introduced from Ernesto Zedillo, who is a professor at Yale now, the president, former president of Mexico.

01:59:49.000 And then Bill Clinton went in and basically made the point that the aim is complete worldwide integration of the world without without any borders.

01:59:59.000 And he, you know, it was about a 45 minute speech.

02:00:03.000 And you know, it was, you know, I was thinking, is Rod Sterling in the audience?

02:00:08.000 No, this is a place where the Philharmonic plays You know, the lights and the chandeliers were down.

02:00:13.000 Everyone was clapping.

02:00:14.000 It was like, it was like I was in the middle of, uh, of, um, Sigourney Weaver's Alien, you know, when they go in that mess.

02:00:22.000 And, you know, right at Yale University where, you know, uh, Bill Clinton was saying that, you know, he had his professor was a bork. 0.78

02:00:31.000 He was making a joke about how he shouldn't, you know, he didn't listen to him because he got, you know, borked with the, uh, You know what I mean?

02:00:38.000 You get this feeling that it's just the center of power, political power.

02:00:43.000 And this speech was for, was a challenge to the undergraduates there and the youngsters.

02:00:49.000 Excuse me for being so nervous, but, you know, it was a challenge for them.

02:00:54.000 What are you going to do to make this happen?

02:00:56.000 Complete worldwide integration, no borders.

02:00:59.000 Started with my own two ears.

02:01:03.000 Well, I mean, I've got... Bill Clinton's written that in books.

02:01:05.000 He's written... I've seen him say it on C-SPAN.

02:01:07.000 We've played clips of it here.

02:01:09.000 The Republicans are all calling for it.

02:01:11.000 It's in all these major publications, and they go, no!

02:01:14.000 Now we want to merge our governments and merge our military and... Oh yeah.

02:01:20.000 ...and let all the illegals in.

02:01:23.000 But that's not global government.

02:01:25.000 You know, and I knew it because I've been listening to you for years.

02:01:27.000 I have all your tapes.

02:01:29.000 And you know, you know with something like book... there's a difference between book knowledge And when you get your hands on it, you know, there's a difference between that, you know, like Booksmart.

02:01:37.000 You know, you hear it and you know it at a certain level, but then when your ears hear it coming from, you know, President Clinton, not that I... Well, I want to know why people are still in denial.

02:01:48.000 Yeah.

02:01:49.000 I mean, they're openly setting up world government, world taxation, world regulation, worldwide police state.

02:01:55.000 Their goal is to break up the family.

02:01:57.000 Their goal is to destroy the middle class. 0.94

02:01:59.000 They openly brag about it.

02:02:00.000 Absolutely.

02:02:03.000 Um, I'm a Democrat, okay?

02:02:04.000 But I'm also, you know, pro- I'm basically libertarian.

02:02:09.000 But, um, you know, the Democrats should be all over this because it's the middle class that's gonna get, you know, really stepped on.

02:02:17.000 They're all bought and paid for by the same people!

02:02:19.000 Yep.

02:02:20.000 At a certain level, you're absolutely right.

02:02:22.000 At the national level, it's just all one big game.

02:02:25.000 Well, I mean, look at Bill Clinton as a surrogate member of the Bush family.

02:02:29.000 Yeah, and that's one of the parts I like best about your martial law.

02:02:33.000 It's when you go into the third part where you have the history of the Bush family and the symbolism.

02:02:39.000 I thought that was an excellent part of it.

02:02:40.000 Well, thank you.

02:02:41.000 We'll be right back.

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02:06:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:10.000 On the heels of former President Jimmy Carter on Monday saying Gitmo should be shut down, the torture base, Bush came out two days ago and said they might shut it down.

02:06:22.000 I mean, they don't even need it.

02:06:23.000 They've got camps all over the planet right now and Gulag Archipelago, a string of them.

02:06:29.000 Now Rumsfeld plays down the idea of closing Guantanamo and says that, uh, we're exploring all alternatives as to how best to do the main objective, which is protect America.

02:06:41.000 Huh.

02:06:43.000 Meanwhile, This is out of the Gulf News.

02:06:46.000 Good and honest Iraqis fighting U.S. 0.62

02:06:49.000 forces.

02:06:50.000 A senior U.S.

02:06:51.000 military chief has admitted good, honest Iraqis are fighting American forces.

02:06:55.000 Major General Joseph Toluto said he could understand why some ordinary people would take up arms against the U.S.

02:07:03.000 military because they're offended by our presence.

02:07:07.000 In an interview with the Gulf News, he said, if a good, honest person feels having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can understand how they could want to fight us.

02:07:22.000 General Toluto, head of the U.S.

02:07:24.000 42nd Infantry Division, which covers key trouble spots including Bakwaba and Samaria also said some Iraqis not involved in the fighting did support insurgents who avoided hurting civilians.

02:07:38.000 He said there is a sense of a good resistance or an accepted resistance.

02:07:43.000 They say, okay, if you shoot a colonial coalition soldier, that's okay.

02:07:48.000 It's not a bad thing, but you shouldn't kill other Iraqis. 0.75

02:07:52.000 However, General Taluto insisted that the U.S.

02:07:55.000 and other foreign forces would not be driven out of Iraq by violence, and the goal is to have the coalition leave.

02:08:02.000 Attacking them isn't the way, he said.

02:08:05.000 The way is to make it happen is to either enter the political process, cooperate, and coalition will be less aggressive and less visible, and eventually it'll go away.

02:08:15.000 His comments come in stark contrast to the assertions of U.S.

02:08:19.000 top figures who present and persist in claiming all insurgents are either Ba'athist or Al-Qaeda terrorists.

02:08:30.000 The General also admitted he did not know how many insurgents there were.

02:08:34.000 I stay away from numbers.

02:08:36.000 How can I quantify this?

02:08:39.000 We can make estimates but some kind of guesswork, he said.

02:08:43.000 I think there's a small corps of foreign fighters.

02:08:46.000 I don't know how big that is, but there is some kind of capability there, and it's being replenished.

02:08:52.000 Well, yeah, because you kill more innocent people every day, and you kill somebody's brother or mother.

02:08:57.000 You just made another insurgent.

02:09:00.000 I wonder if he'll be court-martialed or arrested, because other officers have gone public and said the same thing, and they get arrested.

02:09:10.000 We're simply reporting the truth.

02:09:13.000 We're simply reporting what's happening.

02:09:17.000 I got this article out of Al Jazeera.

02:09:18.000 Israeli forces attack demonstrators on wheelchairs.

02:09:24.000 Is it like last time where they ran over the young girl with a tank, or a bulldozer, an armored bulldozer to be exact, and backed back over her?

02:09:32.000 The Israeli Occupation Forces attacked Thursday a peaceful demonstration organized by a number of disabled Palestinians on wheelchairs in support of the people in the Billon Village Anti-Wall Rallies.

02:09:47.000 That's the word, Billon Villages Anti-Wall Rallies.

02:09:50.000 The IOF assaulted the participants, including 35 disabled persons who came from different parts of the West Bank, to boost them around with the villagers and residents.

02:09:59.000 Israeli tear gas canisters and rubber-coated bullets didn't spare them and wounded some of them.

02:10:06.000 Abdullah Abu Rahmad, coordinator of the Anti-Wall Committee in Bill and Seth.

02:10:13.000 And folks, I mean, it really is gruesome to watch Israeli soldiers beat up Palestinian women, shoot young children, run over people, and It's wrong when it happened in South Africa, and it's wrong in Israel, and it's wrong when it happens in our country, to our peaceful protesters. 0.68

02:10:33.000 Now, if somebody's shooting at the Israelis, again, they have every right to shoot back, but, you know, they drop 2,000 bombs on whole villages, and kill 50 people with a pop, and then that's okay, but then somebody blows up a suicide bomb, and then they're an evil terrorist. 0.79

02:10:50.000 What is the difference between a 2,000 pound bomb and a 20 pound satchel bomb?

02:10:55.000 The size! 0.97

02:10:58.000 So I'm tired of this hypocritical behavior. 0.92

02:10:59.000 I mean, it's really that simple. 0.95

02:11:02.000 And the Arabs in the U.S. 0.53

02:11:04.000 and the Bilderberg Group, we've had Israeli reporters on about this, they're all being manipulated by the same people.

02:11:11.000 The globalists want an ongoing crisis in the Middle East.

02:11:16.000 This is from Prison Planet.

02:11:17.000 We've since confirmed its accuracy.

02:11:19.000 Soviet-style snitch poster being used on trains.

02:11:23.000 If you thought the signs in England that say, secure under the watchful eyes, ...are scary and those are confirmed.

02:11:37.000 Big Brother is watching for your safety.

02:11:39.000 There's a new one.

02:11:40.000 Many blogs have picked this one up.

02:11:42.000 This poster is reported as being used on the MARC commuter train between Baltimore and D.C.

02:11:49.000 Click the poster for an enlargement.

02:11:51.000 If accurate, this is yet another visual reminder of how society is slipping back into a Stasi-like climate where everyone is trained to be suspicious.

02:12:01.000 Remember, the Bush are leader billboards.

02:12:04.000 And it says, watch, ride, and report.

02:12:08.000 And it shows like a 1930s, looks like a Nazi poster.

02:12:11.000 With these men and women lined up, you know, in the train, proudly reporting on the terrorists.

02:12:23.000 It says, report any unusual activities or packages to the, gotta zoom in on this to read it, to the nearest conductor.

02:12:33.000 And it just looks like something out of 1984.

02:12:35.000 And every time we see these, we don't believe it.

02:12:38.000 And we make phone calls and go check it out ourselves, and it's true. 0.57

02:12:44.000 And it just gets worse, and worse, and worse, and worse.

02:12:51.000 Uh, let's go ahead and go back to the calls.

02:12:55.000 Ron in Louisiana.

02:12:58.000 Ron, go ahead.

02:12:59.000 You're on the air.

02:13:00.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:13:01.000 Good.

02:13:02.000 Good to talk to you again.

02:13:04.000 I want to talk about the radiation, but first of all I want to make a comment on what you were just talking about.

02:13:11.000 Show me your papers, Alex.

02:13:13.000 The Gestapo is here.

02:13:14.000 Well, that's freedom, though!

02:13:15.000 Only illegal aliens don't have to show their papers. 0.88

02:13:17.000 We're going to have to show them, Ron.

02:13:19.000 That's right.

02:13:21.000 I remember as a young kid going to the movies in the 40s during the war.

02:13:30.000 And the thing that would just make your blood run cold is when the Nazi Gestapo got on the trains and come up to the people and said, show me your papers.

02:13:39.000 Boy, that was, uh, that, the sound of it just makes me have goosebumps right now.

02:13:44.000 But now they wear black helmets and machine guns and black masks and say, show us your papers.

02:13:50.000 Yeah, there are even more.

02:13:51.000 And by the way, I've seen old film footage of the Nazis.

02:13:54.000 They were rude and gruff, but they weren't half as rude as our police.

02:13:59.000 It's much more evil today than they were, you know, in this country.

02:14:03.000 Yeah, they just do it smarter.

02:14:04.000 They put sodium fluoride in the water.

02:14:06.000 They put aspartame in the drinks.

02:14:09.000 They do it a lot slicker, don't they?

02:14:11.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:12.000 That's what I wanted to talk about.

02:14:13.000 You know, I want to remind people, I've said this before, but my wife, Rosemary, got a brain tumor from drinking Diet Coke.

02:14:26.000 Not the whole story.

02:14:27.000 You haven't called in about two years, Ron.

02:14:29.000 Well, yeah, I called a couple months ago.

02:14:32.000 I must have not recognized you that time.

02:14:36.000 But anyway, I like to remind people that anything with aspartame in it is deadly poison.

02:14:43.000 And also that this new sweetener that they've come out with that sounds so splendid, called Splenda, is also a poison.

02:14:53.000 Well, I'll tell you what, hold on a minute, Ron.

02:14:55.000 I don't agree with you.

02:14:56.000 I think it's nutritious.

02:14:57.000 Do you have that clip where mercury's nutritious?

02:15:00.000 Yeah, grab that clip.

02:15:01.000 No, sir, mercury's good, too.

02:15:03.000 Oh, yes, yes, I know it is.

02:15:04.000 Are you with Al-Qaeda, Ron?

02:15:06.000 Are you trying to bring down the government?

02:15:08.000 Well, I refuse to answer on the crimes that might incriminate me.

02:15:13.000 Well, I mean, you know, their own internal reports say it's deadly poison, but so what?

02:15:19.000 Look, if they say it's good, it's good, okay?

02:15:22.000 Yeah, it's a good old Rumsfeld disease. 0.98

02:15:24.000 He's the murderer.

02:15:25.000 He's the guy that got it introduced.

02:15:27.000 He's a very good person.

02:15:28.000 Yeah, and the more people they kill, the higher up the second ladder they go, you know.

02:15:32.000 But I want to... Well, I'll tell you what.

02:15:34.000 Let me play this clip, and then we'll go back to you, Ron.

02:15:36.000 Here it is, folks.

02:15:37.000 Very nutritious.

02:15:38.000 ...vaccines may have on kids.

02:15:40.000 A life-saving device wins over-the-counter approval by the FDA.

02:15:43.000 And sick of your glasses and contact lenses?

02:15:45.000 A new corrective eye surgery is approved today.

02:15:48.000 Here's tonight's medical headlines with medical watch reporter, Suman Mathers.

02:15:54.000 Mercury-containing vaccines may help not harm kids, according to two new studies in the journal Pediatrics.

02:16:00.000 There have been widespread concerns that mercury-based preservatives in vaccines might impair the neurological development of children.

02:16:07.000 These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually I wanted to address the radiation issue.

02:16:12.000 You see, Rosemary, the brain tumor was removed.

02:16:13.000 and mental performance. - But again, that's the semantical spin.

02:16:16.000 If you want dumbed down, drooling idiots, then yes, this is what the government wants, and so to them it is good. 1.00

02:16:24.000 Ron, go ahead. - I wanted to address the radiation issue. 1.00

02:16:30.000 You see, Rosemary, the brain tumor was removed.

02:16:34.000 It was on the back of her head up high, and after the surgery, she was getting better.

02:16:41.000 I had her on a highly nutritious diet, tons of supplements.

02:16:45.000 She was really, really improving.

02:16:49.000 But the doctors kept pressuring her and pressuring her every time.

02:16:53.000 You need to start your radiation.

02:16:54.000 You've got to have radiation.

02:16:55.000 I kept trying to hold her off of this thing.

02:16:58.000 Then her family started pressuring her to do radiation, do radiation.

02:17:02.000 Finally, she just reached a point where, you know, they just kind of coerced her into doing this thing.

02:17:08.000 And what happened?

02:17:09.000 As soon as she took the radiation, it was downhill from there.

02:17:12.000 She just began to deteriorate a little slowly and downhill just until she passed away.

02:17:18.000 So they murder for money.

02:17:20.000 Just radiation is a killer.

02:17:23.000 What do you think of them taking all this family's children because they didn't want to radiate? 1.00

02:17:27.000 They are so rotten evil that they're a bunch of scumbag killers. 1.00

02:17:32.000 And they need to be, they need to be tried and put where they belong. 1.00

02:17:37.000 Let's put it that way.

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02:22:08.000 Daniel listening to us there in New Zealand in Middle World.

02:22:13.000 Welcome sir.

02:22:15.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

02:22:16.000 I've actually called in before.

02:22:17.000 I was the student who wrote the Facebook article that you still have on Prison Planet.

02:22:21.000 But I know you're tapped for time, so I'll make it rather quick.

02:22:24.000 I'm wondering if you think that... I mean, I was reading the post about the Bilderberg meeting and the incredible notes that were taken.

02:22:30.000 I'm wondering if you think that at this point the neocons are cornered.

02:22:33.000 We had the AP article this morning where it says Bush's approval rating is hovering in the range between 35 and 40 percent, and that's according to the official mainstream news polls.

02:22:42.000 And one of the things that they haven't covered as much as the AIPAC scandal, where we know that the FBI has been tapping the phones of Larry Franklin and a lot of the accused Israeli moles in the Office of Special Plans and the Chinese Vice President's office.

02:22:55.000 I'm wondering if you think that what we've read about the Bilderberg, that the CIA and FBI are in open revolt against a lot of these neocons.

02:23:02.000 I'm wondering if you think that's manifesting itself now?

02:23:06.000 There are certainly lots of government agents that are revolting.

02:23:10.000 They are resisting.

02:23:12.000 They are going up against this and our information from inside the Bilderberg Group is very, very accurate and that's what we're hearing.

02:23:21.000 They're having major problems.

02:23:24.000 I mean, because if you look at the arrest of Larry Franklin, he was the top Iran expert.

02:23:27.000 I'm thinking that they fired Robert Wright.

02:23:29.000 You know about W1999, where Bush says that you cannot investigate the flight schools, you cannot investigate the bin Laden.

02:23:36.000 I'm wondering if we're seeing, you know, with Porter Gostin putting up the CIA, if there's an old guard within the intelligence.

02:23:42.000 Oh yeah, these are purges.

02:23:45.000 We've had a lot of top people, formerly with the CIA and NSA, on the last month.

02:23:51.000 There is a purge going on because people are revolting against them.

02:23:55.000 Well, at the same time, I mean, I've been reading Bob Chapman at the International Forecaster, who's often got a very cogent analysis, and he's saying that there's a real move against these guys.

02:24:02.000 I mean, it seems like we're getting into the point right now where either, like Scott Ritter says, they're going to make a move against Iran, or we're going to have to have, like what Colonel Ron Priest said on your show, a move where some of the military guys go against the Bush administration.

02:24:15.000 Do you see anything like that manifesting?

02:24:17.000 Well, I mean, look, the Bushes are puppets, so they could easily, the globalists could easily flush them down the toilet and then act like everything had been fixed and keep moving forward.

02:24:26.000 They do engage in sacrificial lamb behavior, but I guess you're an American living in New Zealand?

02:24:34.000 Yeah, I've called him before.

02:24:35.000 I'm a student at Rice University.

02:24:37.000 I called you about Gary Webb before.

02:24:40.000 How did you go to school in New Zealand?

02:24:43.000 I was part of an exchange student program.

02:24:46.000 Um, and I wanted to see another part of the world, but... Are you having fun?

02:24:51.000 It's fun, Alex, but I'll tell you what, every day, especially the last few months, I want to come back and fight the New World Order.

02:24:57.000 I want to come back and get... I've been in contact with Jack Blood as well.

02:25:00.000 I want to get a radio show.

02:25:01.000 I've been convincing people here, and the amazing thing is, just very quickly, Alex, I don't want to take up too much time, students are ready for the truth.

02:25:07.000 I will tell you, I have changed so many minds here.

02:25:09.000 I have people researching the Bilderberg, coming and borrowing books from me.

02:25:12.000 They want to find out about the Council on Foreign Relations.

02:25:15.000 I've even got professors here, and they're saying, oh, what is this?

02:25:17.000 You mean the kings and queens are meeting with the top CEOs?

02:25:20.000 I've never even heard of this.

02:25:21.000 People here are ready for the truth, and I want to get back to America, back to the country I love, and fight for justice, because it's too tough to do it here.

02:25:29.000 I want to be back fighting these guys tooth and nail.

02:25:30.000 It's like you say, if you put 110% in, it's better than buying into the system, you know?

02:25:38.000 Alright, good to hear from you.

02:25:39.000 Keep it up there, my friend.

02:25:41.000 Let's talk to Sheldon in Arizona.

02:25:43.000 Sheldon, go ahead.

02:25:45.000 Hi Alex, I just wanted to tell your listening audience that Doyle Shamley will be coming on the Jack Blood Show in the second hour today to talk about this murder of William Cooper.

02:25:57.000 Doyle is the only one, I guess he's the only one that has in his possession the official homicide report by the state of Arizona which includes 400 photographs of the crime scene.

02:26:07.000 Doyle will be on the second hour today talking about it.

02:26:09.000 Has he put those on the web yet?

02:26:11.000 I don't know Alex, I don't have the internet at home so I wouldn't know.

02:26:15.000 Well, I was hearing that there had been some new development where the sheriff involved in the raid on Cooper's home, that he is in trouble for corruption?

02:26:26.000 Yeah, Jack Blood reported that he's been indicted for corruption.

02:26:30.000 Doyle will probably fill us in on that today.

02:26:34.000 Alright, well, what happened to Bill Cooper was a saddening thing.

02:26:37.000 Oh, did you get to listen to that tape I had sent you?

02:26:39.000 Remember that?

02:26:43.000 Oh, when Bill Cooper attacked me?

02:26:46.000 Yeah.

02:26:47.000 I had heard part one of it.

02:26:49.000 I hadn't heard that part yet.

02:26:50.000 I've still got it.

02:26:51.000 I mean to listen to it.

02:26:52.000 Yeah, because you wanted me to send you it because you said there was something entertaining in there.

02:26:56.000 Yeah, I haven't had a chance to be entertained yet, but I do have it in the stack and I appreciate you mailing it to me, Sheldon.

02:27:01.000 Okay, well, thanks for letting me on, Alex.

02:27:04.000 Hey, I appreciate you calling.

02:27:05.000 Yeah, I wonder if Doyle will retract the things Cooper said about me.

02:27:11.000 That I wear, uh, that I wear emerald, not emerald, ruby rings in my chest.

02:27:25.000 I mean, I think what happened to Bill Cooper was wrong, but, uh, just, you know, he rebelled in attacking people like myself.

02:27:35.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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02:30:52.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:30:55.000 All right, one last caller.

02:31:02.000 Jamie in Kentucky.

02:31:04.000 Jamie, you're on the air.

02:31:05.000 Go ahead.

02:31:06.000 Hello, Mr. Jones.

02:31:07.000 How you doing, buddy?

02:31:08.000 Fine, my friend.

02:31:09.000 Oh, I'd like to say that I'm anticipating the debate on the George Norrie coast-to-coast.

02:31:18.000 When is that going to be?

02:31:20.000 That'll be this Thursday, coming up this next Thursday night, six days from now.

02:31:26.000 And also, Are you gonna, uh, take some sound bites from your videos and stuff to play?

02:31:34.000 I don't think so.

02:31:36.000 I've had the rare pleasure of being in studio with George Norrie when he was here in Austin, Texas and did his live broadcast, but it doesn't really sound good to stream audio over the phone line when I'll be on coast-to-coast AM with him, so I don't think we'll be playing any clips from my film.

02:31:55.000 I'll be debating some people who think 9-11 was the Arabs.

02:31:59.000 You ain't going to talk about the Bushes, Bin Laden, any of that?

02:32:05.000 Yes, we'll be talking about that.

02:32:06.000 I'm going to let you go.

02:32:07.000 I appreciate your call.

02:32:09.000 I'm told that our guest is here.

02:32:12.000 Oh, fantastic.

02:32:13.000 Very busy man.

02:32:14.000 We really appreciate him coming on.

02:32:16.000 He just got his three children back this morning.

02:32:20.000 His 12-year-old daughter, who the press reports does not have cancer anymore.

02:32:24.000 They still want to radiate her, which even mainstream medical information says may not even do any good. 0.98

02:32:31.000 And Mr. Wernicke, Edward Wernicke, joining us from South Texas.

02:32:36.000 Mr. Wernicke, thank you for coming on, sir.

02:32:38.000 Well, thanks for being here.

02:32:40.000 In a nutshell, tell us what happened to your daughter, what you've been through.

02:32:48.000 Well, the doctor, Dr. Alter, that we had, we went through four rounds of chemo with her.

02:32:56.000 And that's all we thought we had to do, because that's what he told us in the beginning.

02:33:01.000 And then he says, no, Matt, you've got to consolidate this tumor, you've got to shrink it, and in case there's any cancer cells left, you know, we want to take care of it.

02:33:12.000 So you've got to go through radiation treatments after this.

02:33:16.000 But again, she does not have cancer now, correct?

02:33:18.000 No, there was a PET scan that came back negative, which means there was no cancer activity at all in any part of the body.

02:33:25.000 And it said that the mass was liquefied and the tumor was entirely necrosed.

02:33:34.000 So that was good news to us.

02:33:36.000 So we couldn't understand why are we going to do this to her?

02:33:40.000 And cause more harm to her breast, lungs, heart, and spine when the cancer is already dead. 0.77

02:33:47.000 And what it amounts to, they're saying that this is just standard protocol for this type of cancer treatment.

02:33:56.000 And it appears that MD Anderson is saying the same thing.

02:34:01.000 But they're not treating Katie for heart cancer where it is and what state it's in.

02:34:08.000 You know, they're just doing this as a Precaution, I guess.

02:34:11.000 But I see adults all the time who choose to not even have chemo.

02:34:15.000 Or they take chemo, they don't take radiation.

02:34:17.000 Or they take radiation, they don't take chemo.

02:34:19.000 I mean, I thought we had this choice.

02:34:20.000 And your daughter, 12 years old, doesn't want to do this.

02:34:23.000 Children don't have a choice.

02:34:26.000 And it looks like parents may not even have a choice.

02:34:28.000 We're still supposed to... That's the whole issue is... The whole fight right now is about the parents' rights.

02:34:34.000 A child only has a choice if they're 12 years old and want to have an abortion.

02:34:39.000 Yeah, that would be true.

02:34:41.000 Unbelievable!

02:34:42.000 So what, I mean, how did this come down?

02:34:44.000 They grab you, they grab all your other children, I mean, this is Gestapo! 0.82

02:34:48.000 Yes, it is.

02:34:50.000 What happened?

02:34:52.000 Well, they, they, the doctor, well, here's what happened, and this is what a lot of people don't know.

02:34:59.000 We had asked for a second opinion, okay?

02:35:02.000 And it took them two weeks to get the second opinion with Dr. Mullins.

02:35:08.000 Two days after we got our second opinion, the doctor's office calls us up on the phone.

02:35:14.000 He has got a social worker and she calls us up on the phone and says, well, which one of the two doctors do you want to go with as your doctor now?

02:35:20.000 And are you ready to continue with the radiation treatment?

02:35:24.000 And I said, well, the two doctors didn't agree even on the method of treatment they wanted to use.

02:35:30.000 And I'm going to need at least a third opinion.

02:35:34.000 So I can straighten this stuff up, because I'd like to seek an alternative method.

02:35:38.000 So you're not even saying no to this would-be God?

02:35:41.000 No.

02:35:41.000 We've never said no, and that's what everybody's believing.

02:35:45.000 We've said no, we don't want any kind of treatment for our daughter. 0.90

02:35:48.000 But this arrogant thug, this person who wants to be God over your life, what does this king say?

02:35:54.000 Well, he's saying you have to have the radiation treatments, or we're going to call in the CPS, Child Protective Service, here in Texas, and treat her anyway. 0.95

02:36:06.000 And that's exactly what they did.

02:36:07.000 They came over to my house, tried to grab her, and she wasn't home, fortunately.

02:36:12.000 But our other two kids were there, so they grabbed them as hostages to make sure they'd be able to get Katie. 0.58

02:36:19.000 Now let's be clear.

02:36:20.000 They grabbed your other children as hostages.

02:36:23.000 This is Terrorist 101.

02:36:27.000 And I guess to cover up their hostage taking, they go ahead and put an Amber Alert out on you like you're the terrorist.

02:36:34.000 Right.

02:36:36.000 Are you going to sue these creatures?

02:36:37.000 That's the worst part.

02:36:39.000 I probably can't.

02:36:41.000 Oh no, they'll tell you they're gods, but they're not gods.

02:36:42.000 They have so much immunity from prosecution in these cases that we probably... Not if they're outside the law, they lose that immunity, sir. 0.99

02:36:49.000 Well, they cover their butt, okay? 0.95

02:36:51.000 I mean, let's continue, though. 1.00

02:36:52.000 So they kidnap two of your children.

02:36:54.000 Describe what happened there.

02:36:55.000 When they took the children, they come in my house.

02:36:58.000 Actually, I saw the order to take the child, okay?

02:37:02.000 I told them very clearly that she was not here.

02:37:06.000 They send two constables out.

02:37:08.000 They send...

02:37:09.000 And two Child Protective Services workers or investigators out.

02:37:16.000 Kidnappers!

02:37:17.000 And they want to go in my house and I said, well I don't see anything in this court order allowing you to enter my house to search for.

02:37:23.000 I think you need a search warrant.

02:37:26.000 And I said I need to call my lawyer and unfortunately I wasn't able to reach him for about two hours and I still didn't reach him and then finally they say They say that they get tired of waiting finally and the officers, I'm standing in my doorway saying you can't come in.

02:37:50.000 They shove me aside, bruise my ribs and walk in anyway. 1.00

02:37:55.000 CPS workers are following them with camera snapping, you know, taking pictures of everything.

02:37:59.000 They searched the whole house, searched every club they had down the block, every block.

02:38:02.000 And again, that's looking for dirt to burn you.

02:38:05.000 Yeah.

02:38:06.000 They really didn't find much, except the dirt on the kitchen floor because it had rained and we live out in the country.

02:38:11.000 Had a little dust on the floor.

02:38:12.000 Again, looking for some reason to grab all your kids.

02:38:14.000 Go ahead.

02:38:15.000 And I was giving my daughter nutritional supplements and then she has a few prescription pills. 0.67

02:38:20.000 They were on the counter as they knocked on the door.

02:38:22.000 I was preparing, you know, her nutritional supplements.

02:38:24.000 I put them in little trays, daily trays, what she's supposed to take.

02:38:28.000 Oh, and they're claiming you had drugs illegally because they weren't in the bottles.

02:38:32.000 They were in bottles.

02:38:33.000 Criminals.

02:38:33.000 They didn't claim that I had them illegally.

02:38:35.000 They just said I didn't have them in a locked box and they weren't safe for the other two little small children. 0.99

02:38:40.000 They're going to hell.

02:38:41.000 And then they found some, you know, we had a sick horse, so we had to, my wife had bought some syringes, she brought them home, set them on a counter, they're in a paper bag, they're encased in the plastic tubes that they come in, and said that was unsafe.

02:38:58.000 Okay, so they come to your house to grab one child who they want to poison, who they want to radiate, and so they're looking for dirt, they obviously knew they couldn't really come in without warrant, but they still just did it anyways, now they're in there violating your 4th and 5th Amendment, what happens next?

02:39:12.000 Well, then they took my two children.

02:39:14.000 My God, sir, what was that like?

02:39:17.000 Oh, it was horrible.

02:39:18.000 You know, the children crying.

02:39:20.000 They don't want to go.

02:39:21.000 And it's just heartbreaking.

02:39:27.000 I'm so sorry.

02:39:28.000 I want everybody to pray for you and your family to put up a hedge of protection against these forces of Satan, and that's what they are.

02:39:33.000 I have their own textbooks from UT where they say the family is the enemy and must be destroyed. 0.98

02:39:39.000 The Calhoun reader used by this trash. 0.95

02:39:41.000 Okay, now, then, when did the Amber Alert come up? 0.94

02:39:46.000 Well, right after that, when they didn't get the Katie, her mother had taken her, and the remaining child, James, they actually put a protective Put an order in to get all three children that were remaining, even though James wasn't there.

02:40:02.000 They put the Amber Alert out so somebody would find her.

02:40:07.000 Michelle goes into hiding.

02:40:08.000 I don't know where she is.

02:40:12.000 She took the two children and drove somewhere and is trying to hide. 0.90

02:40:17.000 So they wouldn't get a hold of her.

02:40:18.000 By the way, let's understand what this means.

02:40:20.000 They already come and grab some of your children.

02:40:22.000 Now billboards are flashing a child has been kidnapped.

02:40:25.000 It's all over the news.

02:40:26.000 They're cutting in on the news feeds.

02:40:30.000 This is so sick!

02:40:31.000 The child wasn't kidnapped, she's still in the custody of her mother, but... No, no, I'm saying they've already kidnapped your children.

02:40:38.000 Yes, they've kidnapped the first two.

02:40:40.000 Okay, then what happened?

02:40:42.000 Okay, uh... Michelle continues to hide a day or two, and uh... until they finally find her out on a large ranch somewhere trying to... 0.94

02:40:55.000 hide so nobody could find her, somebody saw her or something and reported her.

02:41:00.000 And then they get Katie and take her into custody and they get James, the little two year old, and take him into custody.

02:41:07.000 How about that was horrifying for him?

02:41:09.000 It was horrifying for him.

02:41:11.000 It was horrifying, you see the look on Katie's face, she knows they got me, I don't want this, what can I do, I'm helpless, you know.

02:41:19.000 And then they see her mother being arrested.

02:41:21.000 It's very traumatic, you know.

02:41:23.000 God bless you, sir.

02:41:24.000 And the mother was just, she wasn't trying to break the law, but she knew that if they got Katie, when the state has managing conservatorship, they don't wait for a hearing to come up on the 15th, which is coming up. 1.00

02:41:38.000 They just, they take them right away and they start these radiation treatments.

02:41:43.000 And that's what's wrong.

02:41:45.000 One doctor, one county attorney, and one judge decided this whole works.

02:41:52.000 And now they're trying to put your wife under the jail. 1.00

02:41:55.000 Well, they did put her in jail. 1.00

02:41:58.000 I did have to mortgage my house and bail her out for $50,000. 1.00

02:42:05.000 They make her into a criminal and all she's doing is trying to protect her child from From getting unnecessary radiation? 0.95

02:42:12.000 And even the Corpus Christi TV station and the paper, I have the articles, admits no cancer.

02:42:19.000 This is all because you said, I want to get another opinion, and this is what they've done to you, and now they've got all these other charges.

02:42:26.000 Ah, man, these people, I don't know how they sleep with themselves at night.

02:42:31.000 It's been a disaster for us, and a nightmare.

02:42:33.000 Where does it go from here, sir?

02:42:35.000 Well, we have a hearing tonight at 4 o'clock or this afternoon in front of the judge.

02:42:41.000 And where is that and what is this creature's name?

02:42:44.000 It's Judge Lewis and he's in the county court of law number 5 and they're going to try to decide from the information they got back from MD Anderson, and they're supposed to be completing a PET scan, which I have not seen.

02:43:01.000 Well, why did you let them use MD Anderson?

02:43:03.000 I mean, that place, my dad worked in cancer research there in the 60s.

02:43:07.000 That place is a labyrinth-themed death camp.

02:43:10.000 I did not let them use it.

02:43:11.000 That was their choice.

02:43:14.000 Oh, and that's the government's front group.

02:43:17.000 Yeah, and I've heard bad things about other people that went there and died from it.

02:43:24.000 Well, my dad said he sat there.

02:43:27.000 He watched him.

02:43:29.000 That's when they do the experiments.

02:43:32.000 Oh boy.

02:43:33.000 So, the judge is going to have to weigh that information versus our parental rights this afternoon and see if he's going to order treatment in the meantime between now and the 15th.

02:43:44.000 So she still could receive radiation treatment.

02:43:48.000 I'm hoping the judge will be reasonable, respect the parental rights, and Katie's rights and not order the radiation.

02:43:56.000 Now where is this judge located?

02:43:58.000 What town is he in?

02:43:59.000 He's in Carpets Christy.

02:44:00.000 Now he's in the state courthouse or the city?

02:44:04.000 It's the county court of law number five.

02:44:07.000 That is Judge Lewis.

02:44:09.000 Yes.

02:44:09.000 Was he involved in any of the snatching?

02:44:12.000 He had to approve both orders.

02:44:15.000 He had to approve the order for the CPS to take the child and he had to actually approve the in order to pick up the other children, I think.

02:44:24.000 But he was -- I will say this about him.

02:44:28.000 After they got Katie in custody and we had the hearing earlier this week, he did release the other children as soon as they had another inspection of my house today.

02:44:40.000 But they made you sign forms though, didn't they?

02:44:43.000 Yes.

02:44:44.000 They're going to be all over you.

02:44:45.000 They're going to be all over me with continual inspections of my home and interviewing the kids.

02:44:51.000 What do these demons act like when you talk to them?

02:44:59.000 I don't know how to describe that.

02:45:04.000 But, uh, I don't know really how they live with theirself.

02:45:08.000 I mean, how do they act towards you?

02:45:10.000 Uh... They... I don't know.

02:45:15.000 They don't... I haven't really seen too much reaction from them.

02:45:18.000 They've kind of avoided me, but... So they're like robots?

02:45:23.000 Yeah.

02:45:25.000 So... Well, you know, you're five times more likely to die in their custody than anybody else's custody.

02:45:31.000 Have you seen those federal numbers?

02:45:33.000 Yeah, I've seen quite a bit.

02:45:37.000 They often lie about the cancer statistics the way they put them out to the public.

02:45:44.000 Well, I just want to pray that God will protect you and your family and your daughter and your wife and that will move the hearts and minds of any of these government minions.

02:45:53.000 Do the right thing.

02:45:53.000 And I ask God to bring judgment down on anybody that abuses innocence.

02:45:59.000 I'm asking everybody to pray that uh... that that that that justice and we're asking God for justice here and in all these other cases justice against these usurpers justice against these demons and again vengeance is God's.

02:46:15.000 I hope their hearts will be moved to the right thing but if they continue to attack the innocents they need God needs to judge them.

02:46:22.000 Do you agree with me sir?

02:46:23.000 Amen.

02:46:25.000 You bet I do.

02:46:26.000 Is there any way we can help you?

02:46:31.000 We need to, it depends on which way it goes after 5 o'clock today, what kind of decision they hand down.

02:46:39.000 I'm still looking for doctors that can say she doesn't need any more treatment or tell us of an alternative.

02:46:46.000 See, they're not even giving us an alternative for cancer treatment.

02:46:50.000 All they're saying is she's supposed to have radiation.

02:46:53.000 And you know, there's still chemo.

02:46:55.000 There's still alternate treatments we could use.

02:46:58.000 But they admit she doesn't even have cancer!

02:47:01.000 Yes!

02:47:02.000 I mean, everybody knows that if the cancer goes away, they don't give you the next treatment.

02:47:06.000 But see, I guess what they're looking at is a tumor.

02:47:10.000 They're treating a tumor.

02:47:12.000 And they won't be happy until the tumor's gone.

02:47:15.000 And of course, Katie will be dead long before that.

02:47:21.000 Well, where is the tumor?

02:47:23.000 The tumor's in her chest.

02:47:25.000 It's a large mass, under a breast bone, covering parts of the heart.

02:47:32.000 It goes across their lungs.

02:47:38.000 But the press has reported the tumor is jello.

02:47:44.000 It is liquefying, is what the PET scan said.

02:47:48.000 And it is totally necrosed.

02:47:50.000 And one thing the radiologist said for this tumor, he said it is atypical for lymphoma.

02:47:57.000 In other words, the way this tumor is dying is not normal for a lymphoma.

02:48:02.000 And this little girl has had, I don't know how many prayers, hundreds of thousands of prayers.

02:48:08.000 She's got a little prayer page here and it goes off 12 to 16 times a day at least.

02:48:13.000 In the first times she had it, it went off hundreds of times in the first few days.

02:48:20.000 But, you know, she's got a lot of prayer behind her, and I believe in the power of prayer and healing.

02:48:25.000 And so this tumor's doing something different than regular tumors.

02:48:29.000 And praise God, I think she's healed.

02:48:32.000 I don't think it's coming back.

02:48:35.000 We'll do just a few more minutes with us, sir.

02:48:37.000 I know you're very, very busy.

02:48:38.000 We're at the end of the show.

02:48:39.000 We've got a quick break here.

02:48:40.000 We'll be right back to you to wrap this up.

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02:51:57.000 PrayForKatie.blogspot.com PrayForKaty.blogspot.com.

02:52:13.000 We'll get a link to that on Infowars.com.

02:52:16.000 PrayForKaty.blogspot.com.

02:52:20.000 And we all should pray for Katy.

02:52:22.000 When they brought your kidnapped children back this morning, I was hearing on the news that your oldest son lost a whole bunch of weight and said he had bad experiences.

02:52:33.000 Yes, he lost I think seven or nine pounds of weight in the first two days.

02:52:40.000 He said his brothers were there in a kind of a community house and they separated the kids.

02:52:51.000 The oldest boy was separate from the five-year-old, separate from the two-year-old, and said when they had to sleep totally separate.

02:52:58.000 Uh, so the five-year-old's crying all night long and he couldn't go to him and comfort him.

02:53:03.000 By the way, sir, there are actual manuals how to do that.

02:53:06.000 Then when the children show distress, they get even more money to put them on psychotropic drugs.

02:53:11.000 Did you know that two-thirds of Texas foster children are on upwards of four drugs?

02:53:16.000 Wow, I didn't know that.

02:53:17.000 Oh, they have handbooks on how to destroy your family.

02:53:19.000 I'm sorry, I have all the documents.

02:53:21.000 Even WOAI in San Antonio did a big series on it.

02:53:26.000 So your son's having to hear the baby cry, separating these little boys from each other?

02:53:32.000 Right.

02:53:34.000 He said it was very traumatic.

02:53:36.000 He was all stressed out.

02:53:38.000 He's probably got an ulcer now when we got him back from all the stress and having to hear his brother cry.

02:53:45.000 How many kidnapped children were in this facility?

02:53:48.000 He didn't say.

02:53:49.000 We haven't questioned him about that yet.

02:53:53.000 But he said he wasn't allowed to see his siblings, and they weren't allowed to see each other.

02:53:56.000 Right. 1.00

02:53:57.000 Heaven help these scumbags! 1.00

02:54:01.000 Heaven help... Oh my... Here's something somebody told me, and I can't verify it, okay? 0.99

02:54:07.000 But, uh... I was wondering if this is true.

02:54:11.000 If anybody's got any factual information I'd like to know.

02:54:15.000 Somebody told us that the reasons the doctors do this and trying to force the radiation on, if they complete the chemo plus the radiation... They have no liability.

02:54:24.000 The doctors actually receive $300,000 from I don't know who.

02:54:30.000 I know that they do get federal grants and they do get... For each kid they do it on, they get $300,000.

02:54:37.000 Yeah, I don't know if that's true.

02:54:38.000 I know there are cash incentives, I don't have the specifics on that.

02:54:41.000 Somebody can verify that, who's paying it and why.

02:54:44.000 Can people get in touch with you from Pray4YourDaughter website?

02:54:48.000 Yes, there's a little link on there that says email Katie.

02:54:51.000 Pray4Katie at blogspot.com.

02:54:54.000 Right, and it's HTTP, don't put the www in there.

02:54:58.000 Yeah, Pray4Katie dot blogspot dot com.

02:55:02.000 I don't want to give your number out and get you a thousand phone calls, but I hope people will call that The courthouse down there will politely tell them what they're doing is wrong.

02:55:12.000 But I was talking to her in the break, and I have the news articles.

02:55:16.000 They admit she has no cancer.

02:55:18.000 They just want to shrink the tissue it was in, but there's no way to shrink that without cutting it out.

02:55:24.000 Well, radiation will burn it and shrink it, but it's kind of like putting a hot dog in a microwave, though.

02:55:33.000 It could swell up and explode that liquid tissue and may make things worse.

02:55:40.000 And of course, if they... if they... If the radiation is killing it, I have a fear that, you know, if they kill it too fast, it's already dying and dissolving.

02:55:50.000 And have you gotten Katie back?

02:55:52.000 No, I haven't.

02:55:53.000 If they kill it too fast, it may release toxins to the body.

02:55:56.000 It may overwhelm her kidneys and her liver. 1.00

02:55:58.000 Where are the kidnappers holding her?

02:56:03.000 I don't know, and they won't let us know.

02:56:06.000 Because they're kidnappers.

02:56:06.000 Now there is, they're doing one thing, her birthday is actually on Saturday, but they're letting us see her Friday, today, 5 to 6 p.m.

02:56:17.000 at the CPS office for a small birthday party for us.

02:56:22.000 So that's the first time we're going to see her.

02:56:24.000 Alright, well God bless you sir, and I appreciate you spending the time, and we'll all pray for you and your daughter and your family.

02:56:30.000 Thank you so much.

Alex Jones Show - June 10, 2005

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