Alex Jones Show - 20050613_Mon_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:31.000 It is Monday.

00:00:34.000 The 13th day of June 2005 will be live for the next three hours.

00:00:41.000 Wide open phones and several important guests coming on as well.

00:00:47.000 Second U.S.

00:00:48.000 case of mad cow possible.

00:00:53.000 It's probably been about 50 times they've found cows that supposedly had mad cow or Creutzfeldt Jacobs.

00:01:01.000 That had the prions, the preons, whatever you want to call them, in their brains, in their bloodstream. 1.00

00:01:08.000 And every time the FDA swoops in and tells everybody that everything's fine.

00:01:15.000 We'll see if that happens this time.

00:01:19.000 That's out of USA Today.

00:01:21.000 Today we'll cover that after the break.

00:01:24.000 G8 wants tax on airline tickets to help the world poor.

00:01:30.000 They're trying a bunch of other global taxes right now.

00:01:32.000 Global money transfer tax, global oil tax at the wellhead.

00:01:37.000 That's the Bilderberg Group.

00:01:38.000 Literally threw fits over this year.

00:01:40.000 They haven't gotten their world tax yet.

00:01:43.000 They intended to have one by 2000.

00:01:44.000 Times of London, disruptive toddlers to be treated as potential criminals, says report.

00:01:52.000 If you throw a tensor tantrum and the camera picks it up, You'll be put into the criminal database and tracked and traced.

00:01:59.000 Yes, the control grid.

00:02:03.000 The police last Thursday shot a young Hispanic man in the back.

00:02:09.000 And witnesses and others are saying that they just simply walked up to him and opened fire on his back.

00:02:15.000 On his car?

00:02:17.000 Ah, but the police are saying that's not what happened and they haven't released the video yet out of their own squad car.

00:02:24.000 You know, if they were innocent, we'd see that video real fast.

00:02:29.000 I haven't watched much TV, but I did scan the news wires this morning and I did watch some yesterday and didn't see it on the nightly news.

00:02:37.000 So, you killed this guy last Thursday, where's the squad car video?

00:02:43.000 Where is that?

00:02:45.000 He supposedly resisted you.

00:02:48.000 I'll never forget the time that I had a weight belt in my front seat.

00:02:51.000 The cop thought it was a gun.

00:02:54.000 Pulled the gun out, stuck it to my head, shaking, freaking out.

00:02:58.000 And if he'd have blown my head off, folks, it would have been I resisted.

00:03:01.000 Guaranteed.

00:03:02.000 I didn't resist.

00:03:03.000 I got out of the car.

00:03:04.000 He saw it was a weight belt.

00:03:05.000 He was a nice cop, though living in fear.

00:03:09.000 Just seized by fear and weakness.

00:03:11.000 And he said, go ahead and go.

00:03:13.000 Don't, don't speed.

00:03:15.000 I was speeding, folks.

00:03:18.000 But the point is, if he'd have blown my head off, good chances of, I would say 100%, that Mr. Jones desisted.

00:03:25.000 Mr. Jones pulled this little derringer.

00:03:29.000 Yes, yes.

00:03:31.000 By the way, right here in Austin, in Fort Worth, in Midland, we've caught police killing their own officers, or killing innocent civilians, as they call us.

00:03:42.000 By the way, you're civilians, too.

00:03:46.000 And planting guns, and then good cops blow the whistle and expose them.

00:03:49.000 So, we've seen this before, just in my neck of the woods.

00:03:55.000 Alright, that is coming up.

00:03:57.000 Where's the videotape?

00:03:59.000 Hmm, you haven't edited it yet properly?

00:04:01.000 I mean, there's always tell-tale signs here.

00:04:05.000 Believe me, folks, if that video showed him struggling, like the cops are saying, they would have already released it.

00:04:11.000 Unless they're building it up for some type of, you know, big theatrical, see, we're right.

00:04:17.000 I mean, I'm not saying that the police aren't sometimes right.

00:04:21.000 But when you shoot somebody in the back and they're unarmed, it doesn't look good.

00:04:27.000 Also, we will get into... It's official, we already reported this years ago, but now British government admits it.

00:04:35.000 British Secret Service did murder SS Chief Heinrich Himmler.

00:04:39.000 He didn't take cyanide.

00:04:41.000 But the important news item is why did they do this?

00:04:44.000 More on the EU beginning to break up, having some major problems.

00:04:50.000 Ministers told of need for Gulf War excuse.

00:04:53.000 There's just so much news.

00:04:56.000 Plus we got the Patriot Act explosion.

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00:08:17.000 The outrage after GOP cuts off microphones at Patriot Act hearing last Friday.

00:08:25.000 A furor erupted after Republican Judiciary Chairman James F. Simpsonbrenner shut off the microphones during a hearing on the Patriot Act Friday, accusing Democrats of raising issues unrelated to the act, such as treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

00:08:43.000 Well, U.S.

00:08:43.000 citizens have been taken there under the Patriot Act.

00:08:47.000 I mean, what are they talking about?

00:08:49.000 And again, the left is attacking this according to partisanship, which is the wrong way to go about this.

00:08:57.000 Ministers were told of need for Gulf War excuse.

00:09:02.000 This out of the London Times.

00:09:04.000 Ministers were warned in July of 02, months before going to war, that Britain was committed to taking part in an American invasion of Iraq and that they had no choice but to find a way of making it legal.

00:09:18.000 The warning in a leaked cabinet Office briefing paper said Tony Blair had already agreed to back military action to get rid of Saddam Hussein at a summit at the Texas ranch of President George W. Bush three months earlier.

00:09:35.000 The briefing paper for participants at a meeting of Blair's inner circle of July 23, 2002 said that since regime change was illegal, it was necessary to create the conditions which would make it legal.

00:09:51.000 This was required because even if ministers decided Britain should not take part in an invasion, the American military would be using British bases.

00:09:59.000 This would automatically make Britain complicit in any illegal U.S.

00:10:03.000 action.

00:10:06.000 And so they go on with the Downing Street Memo to say that they're going to manufacture evidence, which they did.

00:10:15.000 Here's another one.

00:10:16.000 Iraq war planned two years before 9-11.

00:10:20.000 Now everybody's running around acting like this is a news story.

00:10:25.000 Because we have witnesses inside the Bush White House and journalists and others saying they heard Bush talk about it to them personally.

00:10:35.000 And the media is focusing in on this and they'll say, oh that's their opinion, shower grapes just like Richard Clark or just like Treasury Secretary O'Neill, John O'Neill.

00:10:46.000 Forget all of this!

00:10:48.000 We have the PENAC documents written by Dick Cheney in September of 2000.

00:10:54.000 Two and a half, three years before the war, saying Saddam isn't a threat, but he is a pretext to get the oil and to use Iraq as a military launch base. 0.84

00:11:07.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:11:07.000 I mean, is Dick Cheney sour grapes against the Bush administration? 0.86

00:11:13.000 But here's the newest.

00:11:14.000 I mean, it's a string of witnesses all saying the same thing.

00:11:18.000 I was in the office.

00:11:19.000 I saw the battle plans.

00:11:22.000 According to author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz, the presidential candidate, George W. Bush, was already talking privately about the political benefits of attacking Iraq two years before September 11th occurred.

00:11:35.000 So this time, it's even before he got into office.

00:11:38.000 He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999, said President Bush's former ghost writer.

00:11:44.000 So this time, it's Bush's ghost writer.

00:11:48.000 A guy who spent months with Bush.

00:11:50.000 It was on his mind, he said to me, one of the keys to being seen as a great leader, is to be seen as a commander in chief.

00:11:58.000 It's, Bush has said, I'm a war president.

00:12:00.000 I'm a wartime president.

00:12:02.000 I mean, how psychopathic is that?

00:12:04.000 It was on his mind, he said to me.

00:12:05.000 By the way, Hitler said he was a war leader.

00:12:09.000 So did Stalin. 0.55

00:12:10.000 It was on his mind, he said to me.

00:12:12.000 One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.

00:12:17.000 And he said, my father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. 1.00

00:12:26.000 Wasted it.

00:12:28.000 If I have a chance to invade, If I have that much capital, I'm not going to waste it.

00:12:33.000 I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed, and I'm going to have a successful presidency.

00:12:39.000 So again, you got a war, you're in a war, the government does what you say, the three branches meld into one, and you can set up a dictatorship.

00:12:51.000 Herskowitz said that Bush expressed frustration at a lifetime as an underachiever in the shadow of an accomplished father.

00:12:59.000 Uh-oh.

00:13:01.000 uh... in aggressive military action he saw the opportunity to emerge from his father's shadow the moment Erskine said came in the wake of September 11th attack suddenly he's a 9-11 uh... suddenly after 9-11 he's at ninety one percent in the polls and he's barely crawled out of the bunker and then it goes into Bush and now this is Bush telling him in 99 all of this This is his biographer.

00:13:33.000 But Bush is telling him this.

00:13:35.000 There's recordings of this.

00:13:37.000 And if this isn't some weird Karl Rove manipulation that I haven't seen the final product of, I predict this guy's going to die of a heart attack in the next two months.

00:13:47.000 Or die in a car wreck or his plane's going to blow up.

00:13:50.000 And the FBI will be there as the pieces fall out of the sky, telling local police it was all an accident.

00:13:58.000 Very, very serious.

00:13:59.000 Here's another one.

00:14:00.000 Memo.

00:14:01.000 U.S.

00:14:02.000 lacked full post-war Iraq plan.

00:14:07.000 A briefing paper prepared for British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top advisors eight months before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq concluded that the U.S.

00:14:16.000 military was not prepared adequately for what the British memo predicted would be a protracted and costly post-war occupation of that country.

00:14:25.000 The eight-page memo written in advance of July 23, 2002 Downing Street meeting in Iraq provides new insights into how senior British officials saw a Bush administration decision to go to war as inevitable and realized more clearly than their American counterparts the potential for the post-invasion instability that continues to plague Iraq.

00:14:48.000 So let's go over the spin here. 1.00

00:14:52.000 The spin here is that Bush didn't know because he's an idiot. 1.00

00:14:57.000 And the Bush administration didn't know, but those smart Brits, they did. 1.00

00:15:02.000 In the Downing Street Memo, they admit the U.S.

00:15:04.000 knew they'd fail.

00:15:06.000 Fail in the publicly stated agenda of giving Iraq democracy and freedom and pulling out in one year.

00:15:17.000 The Secretary of the Army, who was a big Enron scammer, crook for the Bushes, they loved Secretary White. 0.60

00:15:24.000 They said, you're out of there when he said 450,000 troops to win this thing.

00:15:30.000 Their top generals, Quentin Droves, other former senior generals, the guy that ran the air war, the guy that, the Air Force General, the head of the Air Force who ran the air war in the first Gulf War, said this is going to be a complete disaster.

00:15:47.000 Brent Scowcroft told them, his daddy's top advisor, they all told them, they all knew, And then Rumsfeld puts out memo P2OG saying that's the plan! 0.61

00:15:59.000 It's going to blow up, it's going to widen the conflict and then we're going to be stuck there for 10 years and to build these giant bases and now a 6,000 person, well it's going to be 3,000 person, gigantic embassy that's not an embassy at all but the real government.

00:16:16.000 I mean, some gigantic thing in the green zone.

00:16:20.000 I mean, they planned this day one, folks.

00:16:25.000 You look at the Gulf War II and you think it's a failure.

00:16:30.000 No, it's a wonderful success.

00:16:33.000 You look at the drug war and you think it's a failure.

00:16:37.000 No, it's a wonderful success.

00:16:38.000 You look at the war against illiteracy and you think it's a failure.

00:16:41.000 No, it's a huge success.

00:16:44.000 You look at the border war.

00:16:46.000 Control the borders.

00:16:47.000 You think it's a failure?

00:16:48.000 No!

00:16:48.000 It's a screaming, raving, ranting, 110% flying colors success!

00:16:56.000 13 gun salutes success!

00:17:01.000 You think that 70% illegitimacy in many cities in this country, 90 plus percent in some ethnic groups is a failure?

00:17:09.000 It's a wonderful success!

00:17:12.000 You think cancer doubling Every ten years, the rate of cancer is a horrible failure?

00:17:18.000 It's a wonderful success!

00:17:20.000 You think genetically engineered crops taking over almost every other major food crop and infecting and causing all sorts of medical problems and endangering the biosphere is a failure?

00:17:31.000 No!

00:17:32.000 It's a wonderful success!

00:17:35.000 And see, because you see it as a failure, oh, we're not quitters, we'll just make the drug war bigger!

00:17:42.000 We'll just make the war on illiteracy bigger.

00:17:44.000 We'll just make the war in Iraq bigger. 1.00

00:17:48.000 You think they want to go in there and put a free country in and pull out and let them sell their own oil and have freedom?

00:17:53.000 No, they want all those groups at each other's throats.

00:17:57.000 They want that place imploding into absolute bedlam.

00:18:02.000 That's the plan.

00:18:04.000 Managed by these technological spires, these command bunkers around the country.

00:18:15.000 Folks, I read a 1983 Israeli planning document for the Middle East and it said by 2000 we'll have the Americans in Iraq, running Iraq, and we want squalor, we want everyone at each other's throats, we don't want people getting together. 0.98

00:18:35.000 Brzezinski, the founder of the Trilateral Commission, wrote a best-selling book saying this, how they want to go into countries and balkanize them and destroy them, and have them being smoking wreckage heaps with people endlessly killing each other.

00:18:51.000 When the top generals and strategists told the globalists that Iraq will go into civil war, it's always been civil war if you do this, they said, of course, that's exactly what we want! 0.99

00:19:03.000 Hundreds of billions in weapons sales every year!

00:19:08.000 Four trillion in oil!

00:19:09.000 And an excuse to be there for ten years for the next phase to go into Iran and Syria.

00:19:18.000 The bigger the drug war gets, the more heroin and cocaine flood our streets, the more young people are in these prisons.

00:19:25.000 Predominantly owned by major drug cartels.

00:19:28.000 I mean, you track back who owns the major private prisons, you can directly link them to the drug cartels.

00:19:33.000 They've got it coming and going.

00:19:35.000 They ship it in.

00:19:37.000 They send the cops in against their competition. 1.00

00:19:39.000 When your dumb kid uses it, they put them in a prison. 0.99

00:19:43.000 Making widgets for 20 cents an ounce. 1.00

00:19:46.000 Same thing with illiteracy.

00:19:48.000 I've got the official Department of Education plan. 0.98

00:19:50.000 Dumb your kids down. 1.00

00:19:51.000 You wonder why they're getting so stupid. 1.00

00:19:53.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

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00:24:14.000 The government, the private interests that own and control it, are lying to you.

00:24:21.000 You know they've been caught thousands of times lying, but even though you know they're corrupt, you just don't want to think that they would actually hurt the country or want to hurt you.

00:24:31.000 Oh really?

00:24:34.000 Under several different legal doctrines that they got rammed through in the 1950s, the government has supposedly given itself immunity.

00:24:42.000 You know, they didn't have that until uh... the nineteen uh... fifties and then they started that with the with the atomic soldiers uh... getting the courts to supposedly make law that is set up new doctrines of total liability protection for the government and if they got liability protection for a cop shooting your twelve-year-old in the back They got liability protection of using depleted uranium and the troops being sick and dying.

00:25:08.000 And that's how this really all began.

00:25:11.000 In our modern age, the power of the king, the government being the sovereign, was with the atomic soldiers and all the illnesses and lawsuits that were being filed. 0.65

00:25:22.000 And the government just put through several new doctrines and had their courts create this new law and claim that they have no liability.

00:25:35.000 It's like U.S. 0.77

00:25:35.000 Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A, Paragraph B. It says the government can nerve gas you, use chemical biological weapons on you for any reason. 0.77

00:25:48.000 And you're worried about the Patriot Act, too, and you're worried about, you know, Homeland Security.

00:25:53.000 Folks, they've put all this stuff on the books before.

00:25:56.000 Now they're just building the infrastructure to do it.

00:25:59.000 Oh, you don't believe me out there listening.

00:26:01.000 Let's say you're a cop driving along.

00:26:03.000 Okay, cop.

00:26:04.000 Just write this out on your little notepad.

00:26:07.000 U.S.

00:26:07.000 Code, Title 50.

00:26:08.000 Can you do that?

00:26:10.000 U.S.

00:26:10.000 Code, Title 50.

00:26:11.000 Here, let me say it slower.

00:26:12.000 U.S.

00:26:12.000 Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A.

00:26:14.000 Again, U.S.

00:26:15.000 32, subsection 1520A, again, U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 32, subsection 1520A, paragraph B. Just go in there and read U.S. Code.

00:26:33.000 Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A.

00:26:38.000 Just read that whole section, because it says, oh, we're not allowed to do this unless covertly authorized, and then we have no liability.

00:26:48.000 Just go, stop being naive.

00:26:50.000 A lot of people can't even believe the government would do wrong.

00:26:53.000 They're infallible.

00:26:55.000 They don't trust their neighbor, though, to give them the code to their alarm and their front door key when they go out of town.

00:27:02.000 But they trust their government.

00:27:03.000 People they don't even know with unlimited power and unlimited funds and all these secret labyrinthine corporations and government institutions who've been exercising power for hundreds of years, unabated, unchallenged.

00:27:19.000 Power corrupts?

00:27:20.000 Absolutely, folks.

00:27:22.000 Oh no, we just trust them.

00:27:27.000 So you look at the drug war and you think, man, it's failing, better take more of our rights away. 1.00

00:27:32.000 No, the drug war is doing a great job, turning America into a police state, bringing in more drugs, making it fashionable and underground to use drugs, and your idiot young people use it. 1.00

00:27:44.000 And it destroys lives. 0.99

00:27:46.000 And in case you won't use the illegal drugs, we're going to force you to take our government-pushed private big pharma drugs.

00:27:55.000 So it's the same thing across the board with these wars, with the war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on terror.

00:28:02.000 This is simply a new business.

00:28:06.000 And it's a predatory business.

00:28:11.000 So a lot of you are going to have childhoods end.

00:28:13.000 A lot of you are going to give up that foolish, delusional Childish view that everything's honky-dory and the people in authority wouldn't hurt you and they love you and you want to believe that they're good and they're smarter than you and they know best and they wouldn't hurt a fly. 0.92

00:28:33.000 When folks, it's not just that they're fallible. 0.99

00:28:37.000 It's not just that they're corrupt. 0.99

00:28:39.000 They're sadistic. 1.00

00:28:40.000 They're the most corrupt. 1.00

00:28:42.000 They're the most evil, the most cunning, the most deceptive. 1.00

00:28:46.000 That's why they're in those positions of power.

00:28:50.000 And they wouldn't give two cents for you and your family.

00:28:55.000 You mean absolutely nothing to them.

00:28:58.000 You are chattel. 0.98

00:28:59.000 You are slaves. 1.00

00:29:03.000 So stop being naive.

00:29:04.000 So now ministers were told, ahead of Gulf War, to manufacture and excuse official government documents.

00:29:12.000 In England.

00:29:13.000 Our own CIA was ordered to create fake documents.

00:29:17.000 Another one here.

00:29:18.000 Iraq War planned two years before 9-11.

00:29:21.000 Bush's own biographer.

00:29:22.000 Memo!

00:29:23.000 U.S.

00:29:24.000 lacked full post-war Iraq plan.

00:29:26.000 They... This is spin.

00:29:29.000 They had a plan.

00:29:30.000 They followed the plan.

00:29:32.000 The only danger is it may implode even worse than they planned into ethnic and religious strife.

00:29:38.000 Different groups of Muslims fighting with each other.

00:29:41.000 To where they can't even keep control of this tiger by the tail. 0.80

00:29:45.000 We'll be right back with some gas.

00:29:47.000 Stay with us.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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00:32:56.000 It's better to be a year too early than a day too late.

00:32:59.000 They railed against the crown.

00:33:11.000 Another red tag man. 0.71

00:33:14.000 Declaring independence.

00:33:19.000 They lay their bodies down.

00:33:22.000 They lay their bodies down.

00:33:24.000 In a bloody war.

00:33:25.000 On a bloody war.

00:33:27.000 For liberty.

00:33:28.000 For their descendants.

00:33:30.000 That's you and I, ladies and gentlemen.

00:33:33.000 Thanks to the renegades.

00:33:35.000 Patriot Act not catching terrorists.

00:33:37.000 We'll get into that.

00:33:38.000 diplomat survives Iraq car bombing.

00:33:38.000 U.S.

00:33:42.000 Republican senators suggest closing Gitmo, but Dick Cheney says no.

00:33:45.000 We're going to keep that little place of death and torture open, that little gulag, one of the archipelago of islands they've built all over the world, just hundreds of these camps, 32 in Iraq alone.

00:33:59.000 More security guards firing on peaceful protesters at Tiananmen Square on a weekly basis, and our government endorses it. 1.00

00:34:07.000 Patriot Act angers some on the right as well as the left.

00:34:11.000 Uh, and uh, more and more job seekers in America being fingerprinted.

00:34:16.000 And Congress ready to resurrect the draft.

00:34:19.000 They're now being very official about it.

00:34:20.000 We have some internal information about the draft boards.

00:34:23.000 That's coming up as well. 0.85

00:34:25.000 Plus, Hillary's angry about a new book alleging that Bill Clinton raped her. 0.99

00:34:30.000 Well, I mean, I don't know if this is true, and I really don't care. 0.99

00:34:32.000 I'm sick of the Clintons. 1.00

00:34:33.000 They're just puppets. 0.98

00:34:34.000 Again, who are surrogate members of the Bush family.

00:34:37.000 They deal narcotics together out of Amino, Arkansas.

00:34:41.000 That's just a fact.

00:34:42.000 I've interviewed the people there unloading the cocaine.

00:34:45.000 But if the shoe fits, wear it. 0.99

00:34:47.000 I mean, Bill Clinton is not challenged that he likes to rape women. 0.99

00:34:51.000 Bush and his cabinet like men, which is a sin, folks, but I think it's worse to rape. 1.00

00:35:00.000 And so, Clinton's even, he likes to rape women. 1.00

00:35:03.000 I don't know. 0.98

00:35:04.000 We've got a guest coming up here in just a second.

00:35:07.000 We're going to be going over all of this news after the guest joins us.

00:35:10.000 Another horrible police shooting.

00:35:13.000 And again, I've been pulled over.

00:35:14.000 I had a cop pull a gun out and put it to my head because of a weight belt and the front seat looked like a gun.

00:35:18.000 He didn't blow my head off, but if he would have blown my head off, I've got a sneaking suspicion that it would have been Alex who resisted.

00:35:27.000 But this horrible, horrible, horrible case uh... happened last thursday and uh... they have not released the squad car video now is is in truth daniel roadshow one of resisted police you would have seen this on tv within an hour of a gunning him down every time they shoot you because there's their their they're scared to death the police are of us They ought to be scared of hanging their hind ends out in the middle of traffic.

00:35:57.000 I'll see them on 35 with their rear ends hanging out as giant multi-ton vehicles fly by.

00:36:04.000 They're not worried about that, but they're scared.

00:36:06.000 And that's the number one cause of death, by the way, is being hit.

00:36:10.000 But they're worried.

00:36:12.000 They're worried about you. 0.99

00:36:14.000 And so they gunned this poor Hispanic man down, shot him in the back with pleasure, made her bones 0.93

00:36:23.000 and uh... it's disgusting so joining us is uh... spokesperson erica gonzalez for east austin activist group and we'll give you their website as well erica thank you for coming on with us thank you for having me now you guys i've read your press release you're kind of going with the angle that this is a oppression of hispanics and i'm not saying that 0.58

00:36:48.000 Maybe poorer groups, on average, get abused a little more than in some fancy-spancy neighborhood.

00:36:55.000 But at the same time, I mean, I know white people who've been shot in the back by the police.

00:37:00.000 Any comments on that?

00:37:02.000 Well, we don't like people who are racially discriminatory against youth.

00:37:07.000 Youth of color, especially, because... Oh, no, I do agree that youth get discriminated against, but go ahead. 0.72

00:37:12.000 Yeah, youth of color, especially, because Daniela Drocha did not have a criminal record. 1.00

00:37:18.000 Well, he had a criminal record, but he had never been pulled over for any type of physical abuse or anything, and this was not a non-violent crime.

00:37:28.000 Well, he did have a warrant out for parking tickets or something, but I mean, the question is, is that a reason to die?

00:37:34.000 No, it definitely is not.

00:37:35.000 Nobody should die for no reason at all.

00:37:39.000 The police officer stopped him and had really no reason to pull him over.

00:37:44.000 Had no reason to shoot him without him even resisting arrest.

00:37:48.000 Well, the Austin and Travis County SWAT teams have blown kids in half over the last decade, shot people asleep in bed, shot their own officers and they frame other people.

00:37:59.000 They caught the Midland Police a few years ago shooting each other.

00:38:04.000 Then they tried to frame an innocent unarmed man, but luckily a good cop blew the whistle.

00:38:09.000 I mean, this is scary.

00:38:12.000 Yeah, this is scary, especially There was no pursuit in this incident.

00:38:16.000 He was a passenger and there were no drugs found on him.

00:38:19.000 It wasn't even his car.

00:38:21.000 You know, so we believe that because he was an unarmed youth, he did not deserve to die in the manner that he did.

00:38:29.000 Well, there was a case two years ago in Houston, and this is just where I interviewed the family, and they went to the wrong apartment, told the guy to get down on his face, it was the apartment across the hall, and shot him 14 times in the back.

00:38:41.000 Nobody got in trouble!

00:38:45.000 I mean, folks, I almost had my head blown off by one of these guys because he thought a white belt was a gun, and if he'd have blown my head off, guaranteed nothing would have happened to him.

00:38:56.000 Okay, well tell us what happened with Mr. Rocha.

00:39:00.000 Well, like I said, he was unarmed.

00:39:02.000 He was a passenger of a car, and for some reason, I don't think the police reports have been out yet, the car was stopped.

00:39:11.000 We believe that it's racial profiling.

00:39:14.000 Um, when the car was stopped, uh, I think one of the, the, the driver ran away and Daniel Georgia was caught again.

00:39:21.000 He was unarmed.

00:39:23.000 Um, he did try to run, but, um, Julie Schroeder was the police officer that was trying to hold him down.

00:39:30.000 There was another male cop that was, um, there at, at the scene.

00:39:35.000 Um, Julie Schroeder from what witnesses say it looked like.

00:39:40.000 She was going to handcuff him, but she shot him point blank in the back. 0.99

00:39:45.000 Now again, that's what the witnesses are saying. 0.84

00:39:48.000 Put somebody in handcuffs, struggle a little bit, you die.

00:39:52.000 The point here is, if their story is true, why haven't they released this video?

00:39:59.000 Maybe they're trying to cover up for something that really happened.

00:40:03.000 That's what I believe.

00:40:05.000 Well, I talked to police that were involved in a Travis County SWAT team investigation, and they shot their own officer going into this trailer.

00:40:14.000 And, uh, then, uh, just simply, uh, well, oh, the guy inside, he did it.

00:40:21.000 Now, again, I'm not against the Travis County SWAT team.

00:40:23.000 It's been nice to have the commander walk over when I'm at Luby's and sit down and start talking to me.

00:40:28.000 No, but, I mean, let's go back and get into all this.

00:40:31.000 So, what happened next?

00:40:32.000 She shoots him in the back.

00:40:34.000 Um, I guess what happened next was that they tried to revive him.

00:40:38.000 They tried to do CPR on him.

00:40:40.000 After they had, you know, after this woman had shot him, she tried to rescue him, but it was too late.

00:40:48.000 He died at 11 p.m., I guess, minutes after she had shot him.

00:40:53.000 And by the way, she may think she's getting away with this, but you reap what you sow.

00:40:58.000 Vengeance is God's.

00:41:00.000 Yeah, we want to see Julie Schroeder tried for this murder in criminal and civil court. 0.96

00:41:04.000 There needs to be justice for this.

00:41:06.000 But regardless, if she's guilty of this, she's not going to escape justice.

00:41:11.000 She never did.

00:41:14.000 Well, I think that the civil trial will see to that justice, and I think if the community pulls together, Julia Schroeder will be I tried for this murder, and the family deserves this trial.

00:41:29.000 Oh, by the way, we're human beings.

00:41:31.000 You know, when a cop gets killed, everybody runs around screaming, pulling their hair out, crying, a god has been killed.

00:41:37.000 And I'm against it when police get killed.

00:41:38.000 They're just as valuable as Mr. Rocha.

00:41:42.000 Just as valuable, not one cent more valuable than any other human life.

00:41:47.000 And I've seen the cavalier attitude of cops You know, about past shootings, and I'm sick of it.

00:41:54.000 It's not like we're wild pigs or something. 0.78

00:41:57.000 You're out hunting.

00:41:59.000 I think, yeah, the police department, the Austin Police Department really needs to go through monthly recaps about not using deadly force.

00:42:06.000 Well, how many people have they shot in the back?

00:42:08.000 I mean, it seems every few months we hear about this.

00:42:13.000 Yeah, and I just think it needs to stop.

00:42:15.000 We need to stop, especially when victims don't have any weapons.

00:42:18.000 I mean, there's no need.

00:42:19.000 To use deadly force when there are no weapons involved and especially when they're not trying to resist the arrest.

00:42:26.000 Well I've seen the cases around the country when a cop's daughter or son does something and gets blown away and they scream, they cry and nobody helps them.

00:42:36.000 And an 18 year old person can't possibly have a long criminal history like they say Daniel Rocha had.

00:42:44.000 I mean his life was just beginning.

00:42:46.000 He was, uh, 18 years old.

00:42:48.000 Well, regardless, I don't want people pulling guns and shooting people in the back.

00:42:53.000 It happens too much. 0.97

00:42:54.000 It was like that retarded kid, what, a year ago? 1.00

00:42:57.000 And, uh, you know, he was a retarded black man. 1.00

00:43:00.000 And he was mumbling and had a little stick. 0.98

00:43:04.000 It showed on the news, like a foot-long little stick he picked up out from, you know, by a tree.

00:43:09.000 And he was running from the police, so they shot him in the back.

00:43:11.000 I mean, I'm tired of it!

00:43:13.000 Yeah.

00:43:13.000 I'm tired of them shooting people in the back!

00:43:15.000 Bunch of punks! 0.99

00:43:17.000 I know, and in Austin police, I mean, it's been known that they're twice as likely to use force against blacks and Hispanics than whites. 0.97

00:43:27.000 So, I mean, there needs to be some type of cultural awareness or something.

00:43:33.000 You know, police have used force on minorities more often than whites.

00:43:37.000 It is very obvious.

00:43:38.000 And there's racial discrimination within the police department.

00:43:42.000 Well, I think a big part of that is socioeconomic.

00:43:44.000 I mean, if you look at the numbers in poor, white areas, you have just as many shootings.

00:43:49.000 I think it's that the police are afraid in these communities.

00:43:53.000 And I think a lot of that is unwarranted.

00:43:55.000 Some of it is.

00:43:56.000 I mean, I go over in East Austin a lot, around 11th Street, even though they've supposedly cleaned it up.

00:44:01.000 And I've had people come up and bang on my window and try to sell me crack cocaine.

00:44:05.000 But the answer is to clean that up, not to go around shooting people in the back.

00:44:10.000 Exactly.

00:44:11.000 Yeah, there's no need to use that.

00:44:13.000 I mean, the police, the incident that just happened, she could have called for backup.

00:44:20.000 You know, she could have used her baton. 1.00

00:44:22.000 She could have even used her taser. 0.99

00:44:25.000 Now all they're saying is that the guy driving ran, and then he was running, and then she basically jumped on him?

00:44:34.000 And then her gun went off because she had the gun in her hand. 0.97

00:44:36.000 Yes.

00:44:37.000 So, I mean, that's even what the police are saying, but they call that resisting. 1.00

00:44:41.000 The guy's running, and she jumps on him and shoots him in the butt. 0.99

00:44:45.000 That's not resisting. 0.99

00:44:48.000 No, that's not resisting.

00:44:49.000 And in the past, folks, you know, you weren't given a death sentence from running for the police.

00:44:54.000 Well, it's like the L.A.

00:44:55.000 case two weeks ago where they shoot, you know, 120-something times into all the buildings because the white suburban didn't stop quick enough and they shot him a couple times.

00:45:05.000 Turned out he wasn't even the guy they were looking for.

00:45:08.000 Did you hear about that?

00:45:09.000 No, I didn't, no.

00:45:13.000 Well, it scares me for my family because... I mean, so...

00:45:22.000 I looked at articles from Thursday, from Friday, from Saturday, from Sunday, from today.

00:45:26.000 The demonization of Daniel is really starting to intensify, and the media is trying to change the story now, but all they gotta do is release that videotape.

00:45:38.000 I think it's more than just a videotape.

00:45:40.000 I think that there needs to be something bigger that happens within the whole, um, the way that the police department handles No, I agree with you, but my point is, is if they've done nothing wrong, come on, let's see the tape.

00:45:57.000 I mean, it's going to look real bad. 0.99

00:45:58.000 The guy tries to run out of the car, you jump on him and shoot him in the butt. 0.99

00:46:03.000 And it's so sad that it takes a case like this to bring attention to the real issue. 0.99

00:46:10.000 Well, I guess people will stop running, though.

00:46:12.000 If they know that.

00:46:14.000 Plus the police claim that they have this right of kings, this immunity.

00:46:20.000 You do not have immunity.

00:46:25.000 So how is this affecting the community?

00:46:28.000 Well, it's affecting the community in many ways because first of all, there's a loss.

00:46:35.000 There's a loss of the youth.

00:46:38.000 The family, I'm sure, is I'm struggling with this right now.

00:46:42.000 There's a lot of youth that I know.

00:46:44.000 We do have a Young Scholars for Justice program that works on repealing zero tolerance policies in public schools.

00:46:52.000 And it's not only in the schools, it's also out in the streets.

00:46:56.000 Zero tolerance is an excuse to pounce on people with maximum force.

00:47:03.000 Yeah, so you see them going to school, and it's the same thing.

00:47:06.000 I mean, you see the track to prison.

00:47:08.000 Schools are starting to look more and more like prisons, so you wonder why.

00:47:12.000 Oh, I agree.

00:47:12.000 ID cards, face scanning, being searched every day.

00:47:16.000 You say one thing wrong, they come arrest you.

00:47:19.000 Well, the government's own documents, Erica, admit it's about phasing our children into institutionalization.

00:47:26.000 Because private corporations then own those prisons and lobby our government to create an economic climate to put people in the prisons.

00:47:35.000 Our new model in America is going to be prisons.

00:47:39.000 That's going to be our new country.

00:47:40.000 That's going to be what we do.

00:47:43.000 Did you know that?

00:47:44.000 Oh, it's so obvious.

00:47:46.000 I mean, if you don't know that, you know that just by seeing the way the schools are run.

00:47:52.000 I mean, we work with youth and we hear the same stories again and again.

00:47:56.000 Well, here in Austin they give them all the Tattletale cards, the little $200 bonus cards that they turn family members in.

00:48:03.000 You ever seen that on that local ad they run?

00:48:06.000 About it's your job to report on everybody.

00:48:09.000 Here's your card.

00:48:10.000 We're enrolling you.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, there's no, there's hardly any better alternative now for youth, I think, for youth of color to To express themselves, to let out some of the emotions that they have in school.

00:48:25.000 It's more like if you have a fight, you're automatically, you don't deal with what the real issue is.

00:48:32.000 Why did you have a fight?

00:48:33.000 No, it's more like we're going to kick you out for three days and put you back out into the streets with no other alternatives or programs for you.

00:48:41.000 Well, again, listen, all these social workers and the system, the way the grid was created, Erica, it's designed to make society unravel.

00:48:52.000 It's designed to pack the prisons.

00:48:54.000 And I'm just sad that Daniel Rocha was shot in the back.

00:48:58.000 And again, I hope that you and others put the call out, hey, stop demonizing this young man, show us the videotape.

00:49:05.000 Believe me, if it had shown him really resisting, that video would have been on TV in one hour, Erica.

00:49:11.000 Mm-hmm.

00:49:13.000 Yeah, and I will let you know if that video is out, and hopefully it will, because the community needs to see what really happened.

00:49:22.000 Yeah, let's see this guy lose his life.

00:49:24.000 Well... Let's see him like a fish out of water gasping for air, dying, because I want the police to know he was a human being.

00:49:32.000 I mean, they don't even see us as human beings, Erica.

00:49:35.000 Are you speechless?

00:49:42.000 Yeah, I'm just...

00:49:44.000 Yeah, it's just a very emotional thing for me because, I mean, I'm originally from Eagle Pass and I see this everywhere that I go.

00:49:53.000 Every person that I talk to, even from a different city or state, it's terrible what is going on in our communities and this needs to stop.

00:50:03.000 Hey listen, I've heard hot shop cops at the gym and stuff brag about how tough they are.

00:50:10.000 It's like a stud thing to have killed somebody with some of these guys.

00:50:16.000 Statistically, I'm not bashing women police officers, but women police officers seem to be more afraid.

00:50:22.000 Did you know statistically, women police seem to pull their guns and use them statistically more than men? 0.99

00:50:28.000 You might want to check into that.

00:50:30.000 Sure.

00:50:31.000 Female cops. 1.00

00:50:32.000 Yeah, she's scared to death.

00:50:33.000 Oh, this man's gonna get me.

00:50:35.000 Well, I don't, I don't, I can't really speak for every woman, and I don't know, I don't want to turn this into a male-female issue.

00:50:42.000 But what if it is?

00:50:43.000 Are you afraid to go there?

00:50:45.000 No, I'm not afraid to go there, but I think what the bottom line is that police in general need to go through training and... Well, I agree with you.

00:50:54.000 Stay there and give us your website when we get back.

00:50:56.000 Stay there, my dear.

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00:54:09.000 I fell into a...

00:54:12.000 We're scheduled in about 30 minutes.

00:54:14.000 Down, down, down.

00:54:16.000 That Congressman Rangel.

00:54:18.000 And it burns, burns, burns.

00:54:20.000 Charles Rangel, who's introduced the bill for the national draft.

00:54:23.000 On with us to talk about it.

00:54:27.000 Now, you know, congressmen are notoriously sketchy, but they always come on.

00:54:31.000 He might come on in 10 minutes, he might come on in an hour.

00:54:36.000 But he's scheduled in about 30 minutes.

00:54:39.000 We're talking to Erica Gonzalez with East Austin Activist Group.

00:54:45.000 Erica, is there a way for folks to get in contact with you or check out a website or any contact info?

00:54:52.000 Yes, we're located on Garden Street, but you can reach us through phone 472-9921, area code 512, or you can visit us on the web at www.poder-texas.org.

00:55:05.000 How do you spell that out slow for us?

00:55:06.000 Okay, so www.poder-texas.org.

00:55:15.000 Okay, and that phone number again?

00:55:17.000 512-472-9921.

00:55:21.000 Listen, I know that it's scary to see the cavalier killing of people in East Austin, and I know it does happen there more than anywhere else, but it happens to, you know, 75-year-old retired insurance salesmen when cops go to the wrong house.

00:55:37.000 It's scary, it's dangerous, and statistically, after automobile accidents, the biggest threat to police is their own officers.

00:55:45.000 So it's time for them to stop fearing us so much And to start seeing us as human beings, and my heart goes out to Mr. Roach's family, if you get a chance to talk to them, and we'll try to expose what happened to him, and as this develops, please stay in contact.

00:56:04.000 Okay, we sure will, and on behalf of COVID, we'd also like to send our sympathies for the family and for the rest of the communities, and we want to let them know that our prayers are with them, and that we are fighting the justice for youth of color and the criminalization of youth of color.

00:56:20.000 Well, I think it's the criminalization of everyone, but you're right. 0.99

00:56:23.000 You're the beta test, the target group.

00:56:24.000 Thanks for the call.

00:56:26.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:56:27.000 And this is how it works, folks.

00:56:30.000 First, the red light districts and the gambling and the drugs was only allowed up until the fifties in the minority neighborhoods. 0.96

00:56:42.000 It's like in the Godfather where, you know, the racist mob boss says, You know, I want to keep the drugs in the colored areas. 0.98

00:56:49.000 They're animals anyways. 1.00

00:56:51.000 Let them lose their souls.

00:56:53.000 Remember that quote?

00:56:55.000 Well, that's really how it works.

00:56:57.000 And so, this is the happy hunting ground.

00:57:00.000 This is where they get to beta test everything.

00:57:03.000 But as Tony Brown has said on this broadcast, they're planning to bring it to all neighborhoods, all communities.

00:57:10.000 And it is happening, so we've all got to band together against this.

00:57:13.000 Very scary to see how often this occurs.

00:57:16.000 A lot of news in the next 20 minutes of the next hour.

00:57:19.000 Your calls.

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00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Already into hour number two.

00:59:20.000 Masses of news has come out, their own documents, their own memos, their own eyewitnesses.

00:59:26.000 Admitting the entire Iraq war was totally staged.

00:59:31.000 We do this before the war.

00:59:36.000 But now it's out there for everybody to see.

00:59:39.000 Bush's approval rating, depending on what poll you look at, is 32 to 41 percent.

00:59:45.000 So be afraid, be very afraid, of the globalists carrying out another terror attack to legitimize his agenda. 0.90

00:59:53.000 Now again, Bush is just a puppet.

00:59:57.000 But at the same time, he is a figurehead for their agenda, and so they use him as a benchmark of support.

01:00:06.000 And they do need our tacit approval of their global empire for the wars to maintain this empire to be able to continue.

01:00:18.000 We've also got a bunch of news about the national draft.

01:00:21.000 Now the Democrats are coming out and saying, We may need one.

01:00:26.000 We may need to help Bush.

01:00:28.000 We may need to get this through.

01:00:31.000 And they're serious about it, and they've set up the draft boards again.

01:00:36.000 I've talked to people that have went and volunteered for these draft boards.

01:00:38.000 They are told under national security to keep their mouths shut.

01:00:42.000 They're not supposed to tell you what they know.

01:00:45.000 But that is that a new draft is coming.

01:00:47.000 They've introduced the bills.

01:00:49.000 And after the next terror attack, they're going to have a draft in this country.

01:00:53.000 It's going to be a devastating attack. 0.96

01:00:56.000 You're going to be an evil traitor if you don't go along with it. 0.63

01:01:02.000 The question is, are the globalists secure enough in their position to go ahead with this program? 0.88

01:01:10.000 We'll be talking to Congressman Rangel, scheduled here in about 15-20 minutes, about this.

01:01:15.000 He's introduced a bill two years ago to do this, and reintroduced it in this session of Congress.

01:01:20.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Robert in Denver, Colorado.

01:01:24.000 Robert, go ahead.

01:01:25.000 Hey, good morning, Alex.

01:01:26.000 Thanks for taking my call.

01:01:28.000 By now you probably know that you're going to be on Thursday night in Coast to Coast.

01:01:32.000 Yes.

01:01:33.000 Yeah, it's going to be you and Henry Griffin in an interesting format.

01:01:38.000 It'll be a debate type format.

01:01:40.000 And the other side of the aisle will be Peter Lance and some guy named Jerome Corsi.

01:01:45.000 I've heard Peter Lantzberger talk.

01:01:47.000 He's pretty sharp.

01:01:48.000 I know nothing about Corsi, but it should be interesting, you and David debating against those two.

01:01:53.000 I can't wait to hear it.

01:01:54.000 Be sure and mention that and post something on your website.

01:01:57.000 Well, if I get equal time, I'm going to smash them.

01:02:01.000 Oh, I have no doubt. 0.95

01:02:02.000 I have no doubt.

01:02:03.000 Because I'll be focused for that broadcast.

01:02:05.000 You better believe it.

01:02:06.000 I mean, I've got to show my film this Thursday night, and then I'll go over and stay up until five in the morning doing the debate, but we never stop fighting here, sir.

01:02:15.000 I hear you.

01:02:17.000 You kind of stole my thunder.

01:02:18.000 I was going to mention about Bush's approval rate.

01:02:22.000 I also heard on the radio this morning locally that a Gallup poll was saying either 59 or 69.

01:02:28.000 I couldn't quite remember.

01:02:29.000 I was half asleep.

01:02:31.000 59 of those, or 59% of those, or 69% of those polls said that they want Bush to pull out of Iraq, which I thought was really interesting.

01:02:39.000 Yeah, they had a poll a week ago that was like 56% a new poll showing even higher numbers.

01:02:45.000 Yeah.

01:02:46.000 You see, we have a very sheep-like population. 1.00

01:02:49.000 So once people see 50%, they all rush over to the other side.

01:02:54.000 Which I think is sad.

01:02:55.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:02:56.000 One last thing quickly.

01:02:57.000 I have also heard that, you know, Toyota's building a big plant near San Antonio.

01:03:04.000 I've heard there's a big stink about a lot of illegal labors being used and the unions are getting upset about that.

01:03:09.000 Well, of course.

01:03:10.000 Yeah, the Maquiladoras basically run right up to Austin now.

01:03:15.000 That's all it is, is a McKilladoras on this side of the border. 1.00

01:03:20.000 Wow, that's scary.

01:03:22.000 Okay man, look forward to Thursday night.

01:03:24.000 Oh yeah, thank you.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, it's scary when America's gotten so third world that the factory jobs start coming back because we've got the cheapest labor.

01:03:37.000 We knew that would happen.

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01:07:13.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

01:07:27.000 Congressman Charles Rangel is scheduled in the next segment with us to talk about his bill to reintroduce conscription, better known as the National Draft.

01:07:37.000 *clap* Congress ready to resurrect the draft.

01:07:41.000 This by Greg Siminski.

01:07:43.000 U.S.

01:07:43.000 needs more boots on the grounds as Democrat.

01:07:46.000 A House bill to reinstate the draft finally made its way to the Armed Services Committee where a vote is expected only after President Bush decides whether he is for or against conscription.

01:07:58.000 Bush has failed to make clear how he plans to restock the army in light of dwindling recruiting numbers.

01:08:04.000 Meanwhile, Congress is reluctant to make a decision due to the draft's unpopularity with voters.

01:08:12.000 And they lowered the numbers for all four branches of the military.

01:08:16.000 And the only branch that has made its lowered numbers is the Coast Guard.

01:08:21.000 Even the Marines After lowering their projections three times in the last two years, have failed miserably, with the Army upwards of 50%.

01:08:32.000 A White House spokesman said Bush has always firmly opposed the draft, but many insiders believe Bush will have to reassess the issue in light of the Army's failed recruiting efforts.

01:08:45.000 And they've been gearing up for the war in Iraq They've been gearing up for a draft, setting up the draft boards, increasing the money for selective service.

01:08:56.000 Of course, something most people don't know is that the U.S.

01:09:02.000 Army's biggest recruiting stations aren't in L.A.

01:09:05.000 or New York.

01:09:07.000 They are in northern Mexico, and they even have offices in Mexico City.

01:09:13.000 And down in the South Texas Valley, one of the poorest areas in the country, literally folks, I was just down there a few weeks ago, there are billboards on almost every corner for the four branches.

01:09:27.000 I mean, it is just unbelievable.

01:09:31.000 And 25-30%, depending on what federal report I've seen, it's 25-30%, different federal numbers, Of the troops in Iraq weren't even citizens to begin with.

01:09:42.000 They were illegal aliens. 0.72

01:09:45.000 So, if they're able, I mean, they'll have 100% illegal alien military, I guess, or 95% with the officers being American, I guess.

01:09:59.000 And we truly will be an empire!

01:10:02.000 So that's another big part of this illegal immigration.

01:10:04.000 Because they make good soldiers.

01:10:07.000 I mean, really good soldiers.

01:10:11.000 I mean, peasants always do.

01:10:12.000 I mean, look at, you know, Audie Murphy, the little peasant from the farm.

01:10:17.000 But Americans aren't farmers anymore.

01:10:19.000 We're spoiled, rotten, video game-playing brats who aren't about to lay our lives down for the empire, no matter how high-grade the propaganda is.

01:10:29.000 So, the globalist-owned dumbing down of the public is working for them at certain levels, but not at others.

01:10:35.000 They're having to now go get conscripts Freebooters out of Latin America. 0.98

01:10:43.000 And Latin America is the predominant force.

01:10:47.000 And of that force, they're predominantly Mexican. 0.92

01:10:51.000 Though their leaders are predominantly Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, Colombian, and of course, Guatemalan, and I mentioned Panamanian.

01:11:05.000 And they are the famous Death Squad Commanders of the 1980s.

01:11:10.000 And now those same Death Squad Commanders are commanding Las Zetas here in Texas, killing police and others, and firebombing and machine-gunning vehicles, hundreds of deaths, and the news keeps it quiet.

01:11:22.000 Bush is even running a drug war right now against his competition that isn't paying into their coffers.

01:11:27.000 So, we are REALLY turning into a third world cesspit.

01:11:32.000 But at least 25% of our new military, that is the globalist new military, is an illegal alien cadre. 0.97

01:11:43.000 You gotta love it, folks.

01:11:47.000 I'm sorry, it just really gets out of control sometimes.

01:11:55.000 So, a White House spokesman said Bush has always firmly opposed the draft, but many insiders believe Bush will have to reassess the issue in light of the Army's failed recruiting efforts.

01:12:05.000 Emily Millen, a spokesman for Representative Charles Rangel, who sponsored the controversial draft bill, said this is the type of bill no one likes to touch without a consensus of all branches of government.

01:12:18.000 The draft is especially unpopular now because the mounting death toll in Iraq said is representative.

01:12:26.000 Rangel is, of course, opposed to the war, but believes if we're going to have to fight it, then the military should have enough soldiers to do the job properly.

01:12:34.000 Perfect position.

01:12:36.000 Then he claims that I fought, you know, in Korea, which he did, highly decorated, and we need to make these rich kids go, and women too!

01:12:47.000 No exceptions!

01:12:50.000 No!

01:12:51.000 No exceptions for college or babies or anything!

01:12:55.000 They need to go!

01:12:56.000 Well, we'll have him on in just a minute.

01:13:01.000 I hope he stays on a while, because I've got some serious questions for Mr. Rangel.

01:13:05.000 And then now we have Biden and other Democrats going, we're going to need one.

01:13:10.000 I have the Washington Post today with them saying it.

01:13:12.000 We're going to need it, and it's good, the war is good. 1.00

01:13:16.000 So see, they've already positioned themselves where the Democratic leaders are for it.

01:13:21.000 Since the war has become less popular with the American people, the death toll in the U.S.

01:13:24.000 soldiers in Iraq has risen to 1,680.

01:13:27.000 The Army is now responding and reporting recruiting levels down as much as 50%.

01:13:34.000 And so it goes on and on.

01:13:37.000 At best, Rangel's bill plays into Bush's hands, said Bill Galvin, head of the anti-war group called the Center for Conscience and War.

01:13:46.000 At worst, it is a stealth measure intended to supply progressive political cover for the pro-draft Democrats.

01:13:52.000 And that's exactly what it is.

01:13:53.000 I couldn't say it any better.

01:13:56.000 No, that's not why I'm doing it!

01:13:58.000 I'm doing it because it needs to be fair!

01:14:02.000 Folks, the Silver Spooners We'll never go to war.

01:14:06.000 If they do, they'll be strutting around in, you know, ridiculous monkey suits with tons of salad dressing on them, you know, hundreds of medals out on aircraft carriers, commanding forces.

01:14:19.000 It'll be your children going into the meat grinders of fighting the Persians and fighting the Syrians. 1.00

01:14:26.000 the Syrians.

01:14:27.000 Let Israel go. 0.96

01:14:30.000 Let all these other people who want to go. 0.99

01:14:34.000 Let Bush send his degenerate daughters. 1.00

01:14:38.000 Don't send our families, by the way. 0.71

01:14:41.000 They even admitted in the Houston Chronicle, they're already drafting doctors.

01:14:45.000 They're already drafting coroners.

01:14:47.000 They're already drafting embalmers.

01:14:50.000 That is, people who served 20 years ago, literally.

01:14:54.000 I'm sorry, that's not true.

01:14:55.000 35 years ago, there's one 66-year-old guy from Alabama got drafted.

01:15:00.000 And they didn't read the fine print when they You know, volunteered for Vietnam or Korea.

01:15:05.000 Oh, yeah, there's even some of those.

01:15:07.000 But they don't have to leave the country.

01:15:08.000 They're in advisory capacity here in the U.S.

01:15:10.000 looking at the data.

01:15:12.000 But they are sending 60-plus-year-old people to Iraq.

01:15:15.000 And they go, you didn't read the contract.

01:15:17.000 Now we can recall you anytime.

01:15:20.000 But some of the draft bills, there's been about, I don't know, eight different versions introduced.

01:15:25.000 Some are 18 to 49.

01:15:27.000 Ah, they could draft Alex Jones! 0.95

01:15:31.000 And I'd be the exact type of person they'd come arrest and Mr. Jones is a coward and be on the local news. 0.96

01:15:37.000 Yeah! 0.94

01:15:38.000 He's refusing to go!

01:15:40.000 So, so he's in jail!

01:15:44.000 Who knows, maybe I'd just go.

01:15:46.000 But then I'd be court-martialed because I wouldn't let him give me an experimental shot.

01:15:49.000 I'd say that that's an experimental injection.

01:15:51.000 That's illegal.

01:15:52.000 That's a felony.

01:15:53.000 Federal judges already said so. 0.99

01:15:55.000 Shut up, Jones! 0.99

01:15:56.000 Hold him down! 1.00

01:15:58.000 We're going to send you to DU Cleanup, boy!

01:16:02.000 Let you clean up some wrecked vehicles.

01:16:05.000 How's that sound?

01:16:06.000 You like the sound of it?

01:16:08.000 Well, that's what you're going to be doing.

01:16:11.000 No, I think at that point I may just hop a train to New Zealand.

01:16:16.000 That's a joke, folks.

01:16:17.000 There are no trains to New Zealand.

01:16:22.000 I don't think I'll ever evacuate.

01:16:23.000 I may evacuate my family, though.

01:16:25.000 Stuff gets much worse in the next couple of years.

01:16:28.000 I mean, if Bush takes to nuking cities, we've got a few months to get out, I'll probably evacuate my family.

01:16:32.000 I really want to know.

01:16:35.000 The evacuation has already been prepared, by the way.

01:16:38.000 Because, I mean, there's nothing my wife and small children can do, really.

01:16:42.000 I will evacuate them and stay here and go down with the ship. 1.00

01:16:46.000 These arrogant bastards have got it all figured out, folks. 1.00

01:16:49.000 Carry out a government terror attack, blame it on their political enemies, and then just go, you people who were against the Patriot Act, you caused this to happen! 1.00

01:16:57.000 Now 300,000 are dead!

01:16:59.000 The nuke went off!

01:17:02.000 You're the ones that criticized it!

01:17:03.000 You didn't give us enough troops to take over Iraq! 0.85

01:17:07.000 And we now know the nuke came from Iraq!

01:17:10.000 We now know Saddam had planted it! 0.98

01:17:12.000 Here's the document!

01:17:14.000 Arrest everyone that disagrees with us!

01:17:20.000 I've heard Michael Savage on the air.

01:17:22.000 You just wait.

01:17:23.000 You just wait till the bigger attack comes.

01:17:25.000 And then you're all getting arrested.

01:17:27.000 Everyone of you is going to a forced labor camp.

01:17:30.000 You just wait.

01:17:31.000 If you knew what I knew.

01:17:33.000 And he starts laughing about it. 1.00

01:17:34.000 Yeah, we knew you were a big, fat, dirty, oily, hippie, beatnik, piece of garbage. 1.00

01:17:40.000 You could deep-fry Broad chicken just by squeezing what's in his hair, folks. 1.00

01:17:47.000 All of them, all the dirty beatniks of the sixties and the fourth international before it. 0.99

01:17:52.000 All dirty Trotskyites. 1.00

01:17:54.000 All dirty oil bags, all gun-grabbing scum, who couldn't take this country over until they posed as conservatives, and you bought it hook, line, and sinker. 1.00

01:18:05.000 And now they're gonna butcher this country. 1.00

01:18:07.000 They're gonna bust the guts of this country wide open, and you're gonna love them for it.

01:18:12.000 You're gonna thank them for it when you turn your guns in.

01:18:14.000 Or maybe you'll get one of the little fancy uniforms and armband.

01:18:18.000 You can keep your guns, because you're a bootlicker.

01:18:22.000 And then they'll take your pension fund, but you don't want to complain, because at least you've got the armband, and we've all got a sacrifice.

01:18:30.000 And you'll give your children to them to be cannon fodder, based on lies. 0.92

01:18:37.000 Alright, I'm in rare form today.

01:18:39.000 Masses of news, masses of guests, masses of calls.

01:18:44.000 We'll see if Rangel joins us after this break.

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01:22:54.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

01:22:59.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:23:05.000 We have the Honorable Congressman Rangel on.

01:23:07.000 He'll be with us about 15 minutes unless one of his bells goes off, meaning he has to run back in and vote.

01:23:13.000 Never had him on before, we're honored to have him.

01:23:15.000 He's a highly decorated Korean War veteran himself, bronze star, purple heart.

01:23:20.000 And I've seen him on television saying, you know, we're going to have this war to make all the rich kids go, but we all know the Silver Spooners will be out on aircraft carriers commanding everyone while our children get their guts blown out on a lie. 0.97

01:23:33.000 And he's introduced this bill again, I think this is the third time he's introduced it, and now we have another article here.

01:23:39.000 Military draft back on U.S.

01:23:40.000 agenda.

01:23:41.000 I have the Associated Press, other articles.

01:23:43.000 The United States would have to face a painful dilemma And that's Joseph Biden, top Democrat, saying we need a national draft.

01:23:51.000 So, Congressman Rangel, thanks for coming on with us.

01:23:55.000 I'm glad to be with you.

01:23:57.000 Now, what on earth are you up to?

01:23:59.000 I mean, you've introduced this bill again.

01:24:02.000 Well, if we have a foreign policy, which the President truly believes, that we have a mandate to bring freedom and liberty throughout the Middle East and the North Korea, Then we have to be prepared to fight for it.

01:24:19.000 And it just seems to me that this fight should not be just relegated to paying $10,000, $20,000, and $30,000 bonuses to kids that are coming from the poorer communities, to rural areas, and then the city.

01:24:35.000 It seems to me that we shouldn't have our National Guard and our Reservists, most all of whom have served the country,

01:24:46.000 First of all, if the President really thinks that Americans believe in this as our foreign policy, why is it that we never hear him ask Americans to make sacrifices and to volunteer and to be placed in harm's way unless he truly believes that this sacrifice should be just relegated to those who can't help themselves?

01:25:13.000 You know... Sir, I would support your bill if it said that both of Bush's snot-nosed daughters had to wear those gowns made by Michael Dell's wife and to send them into combat wearing those gowns. 0.73

01:25:24.000 Can we do that?

01:25:26.000 Well, I think your point is that if the President and the Congress and the Pentagon and the CEOs around this country who support the war really thought that their kids It was possible that they would be involved in making the sacrifice.

01:25:42.000 There is no question in my mind that we would shift this foreign policy.

01:25:48.000 And we're not maintaining our volunteer levels.

01:25:51.000 We're not maintaining our retention levels in the military.

01:25:56.000 Is your National Service Act, is it the same version as I read a year ago?

01:26:03.000 It is, except Rumsfeld said a year ago that two years wasn't enough to train anybody to be effective.

01:26:11.000 But because they can't get people to join for three years, they've already reduced the recruitment age to 15 months.

01:26:18.000 So I've changed it just to that extent, which means that everyone between 18 and 26 are eligible.

01:26:26.000 Not only for the military, but if they're not selected for the military, then for some other two-year national public service.

01:26:33.000 And there are no exemptions, male or female.

01:26:38.000 Well, you've been in combat.

01:26:39.000 I mean, for those who don't know what it's like, I mean, you would feel good about being part of, and you know it's going to be the poor children of America that are going to be drafted.

01:26:47.000 I mean, despite the gimmick of, oh, it'll make the rich kids go.

01:26:50.000 I mean, you want to put them in harm's way for a lie?

01:26:53.000 I really I want you to know that unlike the previous draft that provided for all of these exemptions, my bill means that everyone does something.

01:27:07.000 And in answer to your question would I want them in harm's way, let me make it clear.

01:27:12.000 We would not have this foreign policy if these people thought that their kids were going to be involved. 0.61

01:27:18.000 I can't for the life of me see how anyone can be for this war.

01:27:25.000 Well, I want to get to what Charles Rangel really wants here.

01:27:30.000 Is this, as some are saying, a covert action for the Democratic leadership that is pro-draft?

01:27:36.000 That's in some of the press reports.

01:27:37.000 Or are you really throwing down the gauntlet and trying to get out ahead of other bills that Bush has had other Republicans introduce that are the old draft With the exemptions that I think are wrong, are you trying to get out ahead of it to have your bill be the prominent bill, so a draft does get shot down?

01:27:55.000 No, the Republican bills don't have any provisions for military service, they just have national public service.

01:28:02.000 But that's the same thing.

01:28:03.000 Mine would include everything.

01:28:05.000 Okay, tell us why you're really doing this.

01:28:07.000 Okay, when, before the President had made the decision that he was going to have a preemptive strike against Iraq, I have thought, by introducing my bill, that would cause Americans to say, if we're going to go to war and our kids are going to be involved in it, or our grandkids are going to be involved in it, we pretty much damn ought to know that we are being threatened.

01:28:31.000 And, of course, the President disregarded letting us know the facts.

01:28:35.000 Congressman, stay there.

01:28:36.000 A quick break.

01:28:37.000 We'll be right back with a final segment with you, some key questions.

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01:31:58.000 Congressman Rangel, Charles Rangel, was elected with 94% of the vote in the last election.

01:32:06.000 One of the most popular members of Congress in his district especially.

01:32:11.000 And again, a highly decorated veteran in his own right.

01:32:15.000 And I don't like, you know, period, having a bill introduced for national conscription of our little girls, our little boys.

01:32:24.000 This is for women as well. 0.99

01:32:25.000 But he says, as you just heard him say, that he's doing this to Throw down the gauntlet and say, come on, send your daughters, Bush, send your little spoiled brats, those are my words, not his, go ahead and send them to Iraq.

01:32:39.000 Let's send the Enron chief's children over there. 0.92

01:32:44.000 But I guarantee you, folks, they'll use this bill and then selectively enforce it.

01:32:48.000 That's why it's dangerous.

01:32:49.000 But Congressman Rangel, anything else you'd like to say on the draft itself before I throw out three final questions?

01:32:55.000 We can't, first of all, you don't have a draft unless the people believe in the war.

01:33:01.000 In other words, if we would have a draft, people would know that the president would shift his responsibility.

01:33:09.000 The direction we're going, where we pay people to volunteer, it would not surprise, and we do have a lot of non-citizens, especially in my district, we have a large number of Dominicans, and we've got young people who are not citizens, and they know that Uh, they can improve their quality of life.

01:33:27.000 So we got non-citizens, poor people fighting the war, and I say a draft brings some equality to it, or causes us to shift our foreign policy.

01:33:36.000 Because I don't see how you can support the war and think that all we can do is just hold these kids' coats and let them do all of the fighting.

01:33:43.000 Were you drafted into Korea?

01:33:45.000 No, I volunteered.

01:33:47.000 My brother volunteered before World War II because he couldn't get a job.

01:33:53.000 I saw, when he got out of the army, how much my parents were dependent on the Czech.

01:33:58.000 And so in 1948, I joined the Army, I had no idea that I would be surrounded by Chinese in 1950, being wounded. 0.95

01:34:07.000 But, you know, I thank God, even though 90% of the casualties we suffered in the 2nd Infantry Division.

01:34:13.000 And I might add, the division went over from Fort Lewis, Washington in 1950, and guess what?

01:34:19.000 They're still there.

01:34:20.000 But I got the G.I.

01:34:21.000 Bill and went back to school.

01:34:24.000 You know, 90%, 90% casualties, the only other place we've seen those numbers were in German U-Boat men, sailors.

01:34:32.000 No, listen.

01:34:33.000 If this story was ever told, how MacArthur and Truman, while they're fighting each other over whether or not to go to China, the entire 8th Army, which included my division, which included the Marines, was surrounded by tens of thousands of Chinese.

01:34:49.000 I mean, how that could happen?

01:34:51.000 I thought it was two million.

01:34:53.000 Well, it was two million altogether, but we were surrounded in a mountain pass.

01:34:57.000 We were sitting on the Yellow River, waiting to go home.

01:35:02.000 And it was the most massive defeat we've ever had.

01:35:06.000 And, you know, in Vietnam, it wasn't the president that caused that war to stop.

01:35:11.000 It was the people, and that's why Johnson quit.

01:35:15.000 And this draft idea is to get people to know But, you know, we have tens of thousands, a hundred thousand Iraqis that have been killed over there, and these people, for the most part, just got caught in the battlefield between the so-called terrorists and then the American troops.

01:35:31.000 And, you know, how do you expect that you can send a trained military person into a country, he has no idea what the enemy looks like, what flag he wears, what uniform he wears, where he's going to be, And they are on the brink of a civil war, and we've lost 1,600 American lives, 12,000 kids are maimed, and hundreds of marriages completely destroyed.

01:35:58.000 As middle-aged men and women, I have grandparents that are in the National Guard that just came back from Iraq.

01:36:04.000 This is immoral!

01:36:05.000 It's immoral!

01:36:06.000 And Congressman, my three questions here.

01:36:09.000 Number one, where do you see the Iraq war going when the armies, all their top experts said it will fail, it will fail unless we have a half a million troops.

01:36:18.000 Bush said, I don't care and did it, and they knew all along this was going to happen, and I've read policy reports where they want a quagmire as an excuse to play this out over ten years, like Vietnam, to make money off of it.

01:36:31.000 Well, I hate to believe that anybody would put our kids deliberately in harm's way just for a buck, but the truth of the matter is that we have to be able to convince the world that terrorism is not just United States problem.

01:36:45.000 All of the civilized nations of the world face this type of thing.

01:36:50.000 And so we're going to have to get them to come in and to train Iraqis how to defend their country.

01:36:56.000 They cannot depend on our dwindling human resources to bring liberty and freedom to a country that has not done it before.

01:37:04.000 So now we've played the part of the bad cop, and the good cop, the UN is going to come in and save us.

01:37:10.000 Well, I think it's saving the world.

01:37:12.000 You know, we've had a whole lot of decisions made because of oil between Great Britain and the United States.

01:37:19.000 I know.

01:37:19.000 And there's no question that... Well, where do you see the Iraq War going then?

01:37:24.000 You're saying you think it'll be U.N.

01:37:25.000 takeover?

01:37:27.000 Not necessarily the U.N., but certainly the international community.

01:37:30.000 So a multinational I-4 type force?

01:37:34.000 And we have to make, this morning I had a special meeting with the African leaders because I had a trade bill, I was at the White House with the President.

01:37:42.000 And a lot of people don't know, a lot of those Africans are Muslims.

01:37:45.000 They are friends, they are trading partners.

01:37:48.000 If only we could learn more about the Islamic religion, so that we're not being portrayed against Jews and Christians against Muslims.

01:37:56.000 But we don't have a sophistication in our foreign policy. 0.99

01:38:00.000 The terrorists tell them here they gotta come here, they gotta kill the young and they gotta blow up your buildings. 0.97

01:38:04.000 Congressman, we're almost out of time with you. 0.98

01:38:06.000 We've got to take an international approach to get out of this.

01:38:10.000 These two final questions for you, Congressman.

01:38:15.000 Twenty-five percent of our troops in Iraq were illegal aliens from Latin America and other countries.

01:38:21.000 That's the federal government's own numbers.

01:38:23.000 I mean, the last time this happened was the British, with their German Hessian mercs, freebooters, brought in Uh, to go up against, uh, the American people in 1776 and 1812.

01:38:35.000 I mean, this is out of control!

01:38:39.000 Down on the Texas border, in Mexico, they've got recruiting offices.

01:38:43.000 I mean, what does this mean when our government, uh, is accelerating towards the majority of our military, not even being Americans?

01:38:50.000 Well, you know when we had the so-called willing coalition, when 95% of the troops there were Americans?

01:38:56.000 We went to the smallest African countries and Central American countries and Caribbean countries, and actually paid them to send a hundred troops, a thousand troops over, and they call it the Willing Coalition.

01:39:10.000 So, it would be a sad day in American history when we go to foreigners and ask them to fight our battles. 1.00

01:39:17.000 And I tell you, if this was something... I'm 75 years old, and I'm telling you, if I ever thought my country was threatened, I could volunteer to do something.

01:39:27.000 And the whole idea that the President cannot make a patriotic appeal for people to join to defend the United States in the free world shows that they have no sensitivity for those that they got right there because of bonuses.

01:39:41.000 Well, last question, sir.

01:39:44.000 Where is it going to go?

01:39:45.000 What is going to happen When we've got our troops in this radioactive DU wasteland, the Army's own documents admitted, the Army's got 50% plus recruitment losses, even with lowered numbers, the Marines have got 25% with lowered numbers, everything's falling apart, the death toll is rising, and Bush is talking about going into Iran. 0.52

01:40:08.000 I mean, what's going to happen with the draft?

01:40:11.000 You've introduced the bill for men and women.

01:40:13.000 It may not be the draft that's going to happen.

01:40:16.000 But the same way the American people got fed up with our Americans dying in Vietnam, we were told by Johnson and Nixon and all of them that if we didn't win in Vietnam, there'd be a domino theory, the Communists would take over that part of the world.

01:40:29.000 The truth is, we got treaties now with Vietnam.

01:40:32.000 And we're dealing with them, and Communism is not an issue.

01:40:36.000 The American people are going to get fed up with this war and we're going to find some way to get the international community to train those people and take care of their own country.

01:40:46.000 What about George Galloway?

01:40:47.000 Did you hear about how they told those lies about him in the Congress and tried to claim he got money for oil but it turned out that he didn't do anything and he's now winning libel suits?

01:40:57.000 I can't begin to tell you what the difference between the lies, the misinformation they got.

01:41:02.000 They have, you know, there was a group, I know you don't have much time, called the Project for a New American... No, we've got time for you, sir.

01:41:09.000 Go ahead.

01:41:10.000 Well, you know, two years before this war, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, the guy Bolton that they're trying to get... Jeb Bush.

01:41:19.000 Jeb Bush.

01:41:20.000 They all had decided That they were going to knock off this Saddam Hussein anyway. 0.94

01:41:25.000 Did you hear Bush's biographer just came out?

01:41:28.000 Yes, with the same type of information.

01:41:30.000 And so, the 9-1-1 was just an excuse to do what they had already decided to do. 0.82

01:41:36.000 And they thought they could go in this and slam damn thank you ma'am, knock this guy over, and America wouldn't know anything about it. 1.00

01:41:43.000 Well, just like you drive a car by mistake into a rental car agency and those spikes come out of the ground, And that's what happened to us. 0.96

01:41:52.000 You know, the President said that we had won the war.

01:41:55.000 Well, we may have won knocking off Saddam Hussein, but we didn't win in terms of how the hell we get out. 0.95

01:42:00.000 And American people now are down to 43% in support of the President's foreign policy, and it's getting lower every day.

01:42:08.000 When Americans get angry, they get to the Congress.

01:42:11.000 We're vulnerable.

01:42:12.000 We've got a two-year contract.

01:42:14.000 And if we want to be here, we've got to listen to our constituents.

01:42:16.000 Well, speaking of 9-11, since you got into these subjects, George Galloway, I said to him two weeks ago on the show, I said, sir, you don't see us going into Iran right now because they don't have the political capital.

01:42:28.000 What if there's another terror attack?

01:42:31.000 What if the military industrial complex either opens the door or even worse is involved in some pretext you know like the RAF got caught bombing Saddam before the Gulf War II beginning to strike back.

01:42:43.000 What if that happens?

01:42:44.000 Isn't that the threat for escalation?

01:42:46.000 He said yes that's a very real threat.

01:42:48.000 What do you say?

01:42:49.000 I say it is a threat because there is a common tendency that you have one president and one commander-in-chief and If you're wrong, you gotta be on the side of the President.

01:43:00.000 Give him the benefit of the doubt.

01:43:02.000 I voted against the war, but quite frankly, I was scared to death that I could have been wrong.

01:43:06.000 I was afraid that maybe there was information they had that they didn't share with the Congress.

01:43:11.000 But do you think they might bring out more fake evidence again to bolster?

01:43:14.000 Do you think they might open the door for terrorists?

01:43:17.000 A lot of evidence shows that happened.

01:43:19.000 Let me make it clear that if I could find in my heart That that did happen, it can happen again.

01:43:25.000 I would not hesitate to file a petition for impeachment.

01:43:30.000 Well, I'm sure you've heard that from your constituents.

01:43:32.000 A major zombie poll in New York.

01:43:34.000 It's evidence that a president would deliberately put American lives in conflict when we have no threat to our national security in order just to accomplish his own agenda that was written before he was president.

01:43:48.000 That is ground for impeachment.

01:43:50.000 Well, sir, we have the Downing Street memos, we have all these articles coming out where we have their own memos where they knew he wasn't a threat and they said they had to go to war, so isn't there, are you calling for impeachment?

01:44:03.000 No, but I am saying this, that the president denies that the FBI papers and the CIA papers say they received bad information.

01:44:12.000 The only thing they say is that everyone had bad information, but there's no one that is actually Given evidence that the President acknowledged that this information was bad and deliberately took us to war.

01:44:24.000 I know the facts point in that direction, but I think impeachment, unlike what the Republicans did to Clinton for his ridiculous sex acts, that impeachment is something that's too serious for us to belittle and just to use it for political purposes.

01:44:42.000 Well, I mean, what about impeachment for Dick Cheney running the contracts for the war out of the VP's office?

01:44:47.000 That's admitted.

01:44:49.000 Well, impeachment is a very serious offense.

01:44:53.000 But public, the more people know about what occurred with this administration, especially before the re-election, The more democracy will work and pressure will be put on.

01:45:05.000 The same way Johnson walked away from Vietnam, he just couldn't face the electorate when they found it out.

01:45:10.000 So, in a nutshell, if I can get the soundbite from you, Congressman, tell me if this is correct.

01:45:15.000 You're saying you don't think we'll have a draft because this war has become so unpopular, we're going to be forced to pull out of there.

01:45:23.000 I think that's exactly what I'm saying, and I think that the silence of our of our ministers and our rabbis, Catholic and Protestant, it borders on being immoral.

01:45:36.000 You know, we've had terrible things that happened in this world, in Germany and Africa and even in the South, and good people were just quiet.

01:45:46.000 And I think that it's time for people just to say that our president, this administration, and the Congress should be held accountable for every life that's being lost Congressman Rangel, it's pretty obvious when Pinak says we need a Pearl Harbor event to mobilize the people to attack Saddam, he's not a threat, but he's got the oil, and we'll say he's a threat, and we'll use Iraq is a military base. 0.68

01:46:13.000 I mean, that's the September 2000 PNAC document.

01:46:16.000 And then all those things magically happen in that order. 0.99

01:46:20.000 I smell a big, gigantic, stinking rat. 0.99

01:46:22.000 What about you? 0.99

01:46:23.000 I do, but I don't think we find too many people without a keen sense of spelling in this country.

01:46:29.000 All right, Congressman Rangel, I really appreciate you coming on and spending so much time with us.

01:46:36.000 And I guess if folks want to visit your website or information, they can just go to the House of Representatives website and type in Wrangell.

01:46:43.000 Exactly.

01:46:44.000 It's a great show.

01:46:44.000 You're a great host.

01:46:45.000 Thank you for having me on it.

01:46:47.000 Thank you, Congressman.

01:46:48.000 Take care.

01:46:49.000 Well, I meant to kind of get mad at him, and I did a little bit, but he was honest with us on most issues.

01:46:55.000 And you notice he said the UN or the international community is going to come save us in Iraq.

01:47:01.000 I saw that before the war.

01:47:02.000 I mean, I'm on record two years before the war saying that's what happened.

01:47:08.000 Folks, Rangel, he smells a big rat, and he said that not many of us have that keen sense of smell.

01:47:14.000 So he wouldn't go as far as Galloway, but we got some good nuggets out of him.

01:47:18.000 I know Debbie's been holding for ten minutes because the guests went ten minutes over.

01:47:21.000 I know we got callers out the...

01:47:26.000 Wazoo wanting to come on.

01:47:27.000 We're going to get to you too.

01:47:28.000 Masses of news.

01:47:30.000 Jam-packed broadcast today.

01:47:31.000 Is Debbie still there?

01:47:33.000 I'm here.

01:47:33.000 Sweetie Pie, thanks for holding.

01:47:35.000 I was so interested in listening, I could have held forever.

01:47:39.000 Well, I tell you, I've been trying to get you on the last week.

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01:47:47.000 Well, first off, how have you been doing?

01:47:50.000 I'm doing much better, thank you very much.

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01:57:43.000 Hello folks, Alex... Big Brother.

01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:56.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:09.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, into hour number three.

01:58:12.000 I mean, the last two hours just blasted past.

01:58:15.000 I think that's the fastest two hours I've ever spent.

01:58:18.000 I got a long week ahead of me.

01:58:21.000 About 50 radio interviews.

01:58:24.000 Coast to coast for four hours Thursday night.

01:58:27.000 After I do a showing of martial law and give a speech and question and answer.

01:58:33.000 But I got plenty of hours of sleep this weekend and I'm just fired up.

01:58:37.000 What about you?

01:58:39.000 Got news here about second case of mad cow possible.

01:58:44.000 Also, world taxation, a new sneaky way they're trying to get that.

01:58:48.000 We had a wrangle on, congressman, about the national draft that Bush needs.

01:58:53.000 But right now, let's go to your calls you've been holding too long.

01:58:56.000 We'll get these calls out of the way and then go back into the news.

01:58:58.000 Jeff in Texas, go ahead Jeff.

01:59:00.000 Hey Alex, how can you dare say that there's going to be a national draft?

01:59:04.000 President Bush told me less than a year ago on national TV, the talk of the draft was just something out on the internet.

01:59:12.000 Well, then he said there's going to be a national draft.

01:59:14.000 We're going to have national conscription.

01:59:16.000 I mean, I mean, no draft, no draft!

01:59:18.000 Did you ever hear that Freudian slip?

01:59:20.000 Yeah.

01:59:21.000 Look, they've introduced, they've introduced the bills.

01:59:24.000 The bills are in there.

01:59:26.000 And you just heard Rangel, but we're still conspiracy theorists.

01:59:29.000 I can't believe Rangel was actually that forthcoming, or even that he came on your show, which is a sign to me that things in Washington are very, very volatile right now.

01:59:39.000 I had a question for you, though.

01:59:40.000 Yeah, did you hear how nice Rangel was?

01:59:42.000 Yeah, he was really good.

01:59:43.000 Did you hear what he said when I brought up 9-11?

01:59:45.000 Well, I didn't know he was a veteran.

01:59:47.000 Yeah, I did hear what you said.

01:59:48.000 That may be a flip on his part, I don't know.

01:59:51.000 But I did have a question for you.

01:59:52.000 I came across an interview from 2001 with a guy named Daniel Sheehan.

01:59:56.000 I don't know if you know who he is, but... That rings a bell.

01:59:59.000 Yeah, yeah, he was a legal counsel in some of the Iran counter-proceedings and such.

02:00:03.000 He basically laid out in this interview the pyramidal power structure of the whole Bush Cabal, and he said it rolls up to a guy named Theodore Shackley, who is, I guess, one of the founding members of the CIA.

02:00:15.000 Who Bush 41 was basically a student of.

02:00:19.000 I know who Shackley is, but that's not the top.

02:00:23.000 These guys are managers for the big money.

02:00:26.000 The top is the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Dutch and British royal family.

02:00:31.000 The top really is the Queen of England.

02:00:35.000 Where did the Bush pyramid structure fit in with Rockefeller then?

02:00:39.000 Well, I mean, Bush Sr.

02:00:40.000 said he's a Rockefeller Republican.

02:00:43.000 And they all work for the same people.

02:00:45.000 And then the Queen of England owns the big tabloids that puts out the propaganda that she's a joke. 1.00

02:00:50.000 When she owns half of Canada. 0.87

02:00:52.000 She owns BP, she owns Burger King, she just sold it. 1.00

02:00:55.000 She owns, you name it, she owns it! 1.00

02:00:58.000 Shopping mall chains, apartment chains, oil companies, weapons manufacturers.

02:01:05.000 Yeah, I've heard different... Look, they're so powerful, their own people don't even know what a real name is.

02:01:11.000 Where do the European powers who openly come out against Bush?

02:01:16.000 How do they get hit off against Bush?

02:01:18.000 Hold on, let me tell you.

02:01:20.000 We're the bad cop, they play the part of the good cop.

02:01:22.000 Did you hear Rangel?

02:01:24.000 The international force will save Iraq!

02:01:27.000 I said two years before, that's the plan.

02:01:30.000 So is it the Queens pulling the strings, pitting them off against each other? 0.68

02:01:34.000 They're not even pitting off, sir.

02:01:36.000 They have to act like there's a good cop and a bad cop.

02:01:38.000 You know what a good cop and a bad cop is, don't you?

02:01:40.000 That's nuts.

02:01:41.000 They're dialecticians, I understand that. 1.00

02:01:43.000 Well, yeah, no, it's where one cop goes, I'm gonna crack your skull, punk. 0.99

02:01:46.000 You don't answer the questions and he punches you. 0.99

02:01:48.000 Then the other cop comes in and he goes, hey, get back, Mac.

02:01:50.000 You can't abuse this young man.

02:01:52.000 Listen, I can barely hold him back, but you gotta give me the answers.

02:01:55.000 Well, whatever they're doing, it's not working.

02:01:57.000 And to me... It's actually working like a charm.

02:02:00.000 Yeah, well... I mean, why are you saying it's not working?

02:02:03.000 Well, because we were talking about the same thing about the draft and a false flag attack a year ago.

02:02:08.000 They should have pulled it off by now, Mike.

02:02:10.000 Oh, no, no.

02:02:10.000 I'll say this.

02:02:11.000 I mean, their plans are going well.

02:02:13.000 A little too well.

02:02:15.000 I mean, Iraq is totally falling off the face of the earth. 1.00

02:02:18.000 They didn't want that.

02:02:19.000 They just wanted bedlam.

02:02:20.000 Controlled hysteria.

02:02:23.000 Stay there, Jeff.

02:02:24.000 You're bringing up really good points here.

02:02:25.000 I don't want to just say you're wrong.

02:02:27.000 I mean, everything's so complex.

02:02:28.000 You're right and you're wrong.

02:02:30.000 And I'm probably right and wrong, too.

02:02:32.000 They have lost control, that much is clear, but they want to pick up the pieces.

02:02:36.000 Again, they're masters at creating crises.

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02:05:57.000 Alright, eight minutes into this third and final hour, and I want to go to your calls quickly, but Jeff in Texas was bringing up The whole structure of this world government saying it was in deep trouble, and I was simply stating that no, it's good cop, bad cop.

02:06:13.000 Europe is supposed to come in after saying the Iraq war was wrong, down the road, and send in an international force that then stops bulldozing houses and burning down farms if, you know, one of their troops gets shot at.

02:06:29.000 I mean, our government's carrying out policies that they know are designed to fail.

02:06:35.000 I mean, Bush's people knew that this was going to blow up in their face, but it was designed to do that to lengthen the crises.

02:06:44.000 And then a normal person looks at this and goes, well, we want to win the war.

02:06:47.000 I mean, why are they doing things that are causing us to lose it?

02:06:51.000 Well, it's like Vietnam. 0.90

02:06:52.000 They could have won that thing in six weeks.

02:06:54.000 The generals knew that, but they were never allowed to carry out the operations that would have done it.

02:06:58.000 And then the minute Nixon started getting ready to really do that, boy, they shot him down in a second.

02:07:05.000 So, and he was a globalist.

02:07:07.000 So it's the same thing.

02:07:09.000 Would you rather have ten years of war? 0.79

02:07:12.000 Or one year of war?

02:07:13.000 If you own companies that sell weapons and feed troops and make the uniforms.

02:07:20.000 And sell the oil.

02:07:21.000 I mean, it's a joke!

02:07:23.000 And so that's what's really going on here.

02:07:26.000 But in the end, it's meant to all come out about the lies of weapons of mass destruction.

02:07:31.000 It's meant to all come out.

02:07:33.000 We're meant to have Bush biographers going public and saying he bragged about how he planned to invade Iraq two years before he even got elected.

02:07:41.000 We're meant to hear all this, and then Europe comes as our savior.

02:07:46.000 Just as Rangel said in the last hour, Rangel, they'll save us.

02:07:52.000 Jeff, finish up your points.

02:07:53.000 Yeah, I think my point is, is they're losing the info war, and it's resulting in the fact that there's a huge gallop holding that people do not trust major media anymore.

02:08:02.000 And they're also losing their bodies for the meat grinder in Iraq. 0.99

02:08:06.000 And as they're losing the info war, and as you clobbered that Robert Pastor guy last week, which was beautiful, they're going to have to do something in order to keep their whole facade going, because it's cracking all around them.

02:08:20.000 Well, I'm going to be on Coast to Coast AM for three or four hours coming up Thursday night debating two of these guys.

02:08:27.000 Yeah, so we'll see what happens with that.

02:08:29.000 Yeah, one side, or backside attack I see coming here is with trusted computing because in a lot of ways our biggest defense is a free and open internet.

02:08:40.000 And with trusted computing, with all these embedded chips that will make computers trusted or not, The globalists can block a lot of people out of this light blood of ours, which is the internet.

02:08:52.000 No, I agree with you.

02:08:54.000 And thanks for the call.

02:08:55.000 They plan to let the internet grow, be used.

02:08:59.000 They saw it as a taxation grid for all business to go on to it, to where then no one could escape being tracked and traced and taxed by them.

02:09:10.000 But instead it has, and I mean this is in their own policy reports, It has grown too fast, gotten too out of control, and they're really losing their monopoly of information via the web.

02:09:24.000 So they're trying several different things.

02:09:25.000 They're trying to flood the net with disinfo.

02:09:28.000 They're trying to tax the net.

02:09:30.000 But also, Internet 2, as the caller just alluded to, They're building all these new hubs and all these new infrastructures, where if you want any of your traffic to go through it, or to be on it, you've got to have a licensed website through a sub-domain.

02:09:46.000 There's only going to be about a dozen of them, or a dozen companies or universities.

02:09:51.000 They decide if you're allowed to have a website.

02:09:54.000 They decide content.

02:09:56.000 And any other web data isn't allowed through their gates, through their hubs.

02:10:01.000 You go, well, I'll just use the old net.

02:10:03.000 They're not upgrading the old hubs.

02:10:06.000 Okay, just type in the internet is dead and you'll read their policy reports in Europe and the U.S.

02:10:12.000 talking about what they're going to do to us. 0.59

02:10:15.000 It's disgusting. 0.96

02:10:17.000 It's totally disgusting. 0.60

02:10:19.000 Richard in Texas, go ahead Richard.

02:10:20.000 They're not upgrading the old hub.

02:10:23.000 Put him on hold.

02:10:25.000 Sir, you've got the radio up in the background or you're in a big area or something.

02:10:31.000 Try to go back to him again.

02:10:33.000 Richard?

02:10:36.000 Yeah, okay.

02:10:36.000 Patrick in Texas.

02:10:38.000 A lot of calls in Texas.

02:10:39.000 Patrick, go ahead.

02:10:40.000 Yeah, Alex, you mentioned about drug dealers running to prisons.

02:10:43.000 Well, I picked up trash.

02:10:44.000 There's a bale of cocaine outside the prisons.

02:10:46.000 I heard that on the radio.

02:10:48.000 And sure enough, they came over the TV, film footage, just cocaine, big pile of cocaine in the prison where the prisoners snorted it.

02:10:55.000 You get more drugs in prison than you do on the street.

02:10:59.000 So, you were picking up trash on the side of the road.

02:11:03.000 Yeah, by prison.

02:11:04.000 And you found a bale of cocaine?

02:11:06.000 It was marked by a piece of hay, believe it or not.

02:11:09.000 I bent down to pick it up, knowing what it was. 0.99

02:11:12.000 Darn hay hit me in the eye, but the darn thing was wrapped up in plastic outside a prison road we were picking up trash on. 0.99

02:11:18.000 What prison was this? 0.99

02:11:19.000 I don't know, I think it was Palestine prison, Palestine State Prison.

02:11:25.000 Oh, you live out by Palestine? 0.96

02:11:27.000 Well, what I was doing for the mental health people, they can't, you know, they use you for all kinds of things, but Uh, aired it on the radio and then the TV station comes out with a film footage of this big pot of cocaine this guy was having in prison with his lover.

02:11:43.000 You know, just all this going on and nothing, you know, just totally normal.

02:11:47.000 But it's true, these drug dealers do run in prisons.

02:11:51.000 Alright, I appreciate your call.

02:11:52.000 And by drug dealers running the prisons, the major, there's about three big private prison companies.

02:12:00.000 And there's a dozen or so other smaller ones that are huge themselves, but three big ones.

02:12:06.000 And all three of those companies, Geocorp, which was formerly Wackenhut, all of them, they are involved in covert actions, goon squads, major connections to the big cartels.

02:12:21.000 So you've got three different types of drug dealers.

02:12:25.000 You got the big official, you know, ships and planes that come in that are guarded by the CIA, and that's about 70% of the drugs.

02:12:33.000 From all of my sources.

02:12:35.000 I mean, just massive loads of it, directly sold to, directly to police chiefs and others who are the main drug dealers.

02:12:43.000 And then they deal the drugs that control the entire operation.

02:12:47.000 Then about 20% are other little cartels that have to pay a license just to grow it in their country of origin.

02:12:58.000 And then they have to pay all the way up the chain throughout the United States to locals to be able to bring their drugs in.

02:13:10.000 And then you got the 10% that are total cowboys that are hunted down, killed, their crops sprayed, That's what's really going on.

02:13:19.000 And, uh, our government's got hit men.

02:13:22.000 I mean, they send in Marines, they send in Army, they send in the Green Berets, they just tell them these are evil terrorists growing cocaine, they go into the village, they kill everybody, blow the place up, take off.

02:13:33.000 Or then it gets even dirtier.

02:13:34.000 You can't have Green Berets in Dallas, Texas killing some young college kid who's dealing a bunch of cocaine and cutting in on the CIA's deals.

02:13:44.000 So they just send in Los Zetas and the kid walks out, you know, 21-year-old yuppie, and they kill him or they blow their car up and, you know, that's it.

02:13:55.000 Los Zetas hits you. 0.99

02:13:56.000 Or some cop's trying to bust your people, kill the cop. 1.00

02:13:59.000 Or the cop's corrupt, not paying his cut, kill the cop. 1.00

02:14:03.000 And the news knows to keep their mouth shut about it.

02:14:06.000 I mean, I knew it was a government operation off the bat with that, but then I talked to all my sources, Celica Stillo and many others, and they're training Los Vectas at CIA bases in South Texas.

02:14:16.000 They work for the U.S. 0.57

02:14:17.000 government.

02:14:18.000 They're out there killing the gangs and the drug dealers who don't pay their cut.

02:14:22.000 Really simple, folks.

02:14:25.000 So, uh, that's what the drug dealers are, that's what they do.

02:14:28.000 John in Ohio, go ahead, John.

02:14:31.000 Yes, I want to talk about what maybe one of the guests that I heard previously on George Newey that may be up against you, as well as Rangel, if I can.

02:14:42.000 He had some weeks ago a man on who was just the most blatant and blustery defender of Bush's Uh, attacks against Iraq, the most simple minded justifications that it was all for freedom and fighting terrorism.

02:14:57.000 George Norrie was very impressed with him and said, gee, I must try to have you on the program.

02:15:01.000 He was also defending primarily the Star Wars program.

02:15:05.000 Which is really the auxiliary of the Project for a New American Century.

02:15:10.000 Yeah, space dominance.

02:15:12.000 Yeah, space dominance.

02:15:13.000 And George Norrie was just all for that.

02:15:16.000 It's really for a first strike.

02:15:17.000 It's not for defenses to give the United States a first strike with the... Well, John, I mean, George is just polite to his guest.

02:15:23.000 He wants to have a real debate, so I don't want to sit here and bash George.

02:15:26.000 I'm going to be on, you know, arguing with these people Thursday.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, well I just wanted you to know that when he begins to purr that we have all these enemies abroad.

02:15:35.000 I know how to deal with him, okay?

02:15:38.000 Okay, and not with Rangel.

02:15:40.000 With Rangel, I think you're at a point now that most people, despite all the propaganda from the media, the corporate media, the Democrats, the Republicans, most people want out of there.

02:15:51.000 And for him now to say, when we've got Bush boxed in right now, and he will be forced to leave, possibly, To rescue him with a draft is ridiculous.

02:16:03.000 Don't hold your breath. 0.67

02:16:05.000 Remember what Galloway said.

02:16:07.000 Very real threat that Bush will carry out a terror attack.

02:16:10.000 Well that's exactly what I think we've got to talk about.

02:16:14.000 And realize that I was even reading that they're using CIA sponsored terrorism in Iraq right now.

02:16:20.000 Some of the independent journals like Darja Maul Yes, and of course the media never brings any of that out.

02:16:24.000 And some of these bombings over there are designed to divide and rule.

02:16:27.000 Well, no, it's meant to keep different ethnic groups, different religious groups fighting.

02:16:30.000 Yes, and of course the media never brings any of that out.

02:16:34.000 They believe firmly that many of these are designed to divide and rule and incite ethnic violence rather than stop it.

02:16:41.000 And, you know, I think this whole plan now is really going to accelerate it.

02:16:48.000 I've noticed that Rumsfeld is over there trying to heat up the same type of propaganda for an even more genocidal confrontation with China now, thousands of miles away from our own shores.

02:17:00.000 He's accusing them, a sovereign country, that if they want to increase their spending just a tiny fraction of what the huge Threat of the United States is facing them.

02:17:11.000 Our military, and it's not ours, it's controlled by the bankers, is 53% of total military spending globally.

02:17:17.000 Yes, and what the heck is this guy going over to Asia, Asian military ministers conference?

02:17:23.000 Hey, John, John, don't try it.

02:17:25.000 Rumsfeld helped arm China and North Korea.

02:17:28.000 Well, before we start... They're peas in a pod, John!

02:17:32.000 Well, let's not crave one horrible war for a genocidal war with Korea and China, because the Project for a New American Century has them in phase two. 0.87

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02:21:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:22:00.000 Well, here's the analogy.

02:22:03.000 John, who's on the line with us from Ohio, is like a heavyweight boxing fan.

02:22:11.000 And I've tried to explain to John that Don King owns both the fighters, but it's going to be a staged match that isn't real.

02:22:20.000 And because he doesn't like one of the fighters, he goes, oh yes, it's bad, it's corrupt, it's not real, but the other fighter, they're good.

02:22:28.000 Communist China uses the exact same tactics of our elite. 0.83

02:22:31.000 They do the same type of stuff.

02:22:33.000 Rumsfeld was involved arming them.

02:22:35.000 Then they blame Bill Clinton for it.

02:22:36.000 I love that when neocons do that.

02:22:38.000 Bill Clinton and missile secrets, yes, and he was doing it because he's controlled by the same people.

02:22:44.000 So is it like the Western where the evil regulator throws the gun down at the 12-year-old's feet and says, pick the gun up, kid.

02:22:51.000 Pick it up, punk! 1.00

02:22:53.000 And then when he reaches for it, they blow him away?

02:22:56.000 Are they trying to set that up?

02:22:57.000 I don't know.

02:22:58.000 I mean, it seems like they're putting all the industry over there, and shifting everything over there, and then just saber-rattling for weapons sales, while picking on innocent countries like Iraq, while leaving dangerous countries like Pakistan and North Korea alone.

02:23:11.000 But, uh, I mean, John, I know this.

02:23:15.000 The bankers funded your precious commies.

02:23:18.000 Go ahead, John.

02:23:20.000 No, I'm not saying whether they're good, bad, or indifferent.

02:23:22.000 I'm just saying, in the same case, the motivation for attacking Iraq or China is going to be the same plan described in the Project for a New American Century to eliminate any obstacle, just by their mere existence, just by their independent sovereignty, not any threat to us. 0.74

02:23:40.000 An obstacle to these mad plans of these neocons for world domination described in their own documents.

02:23:46.000 And I think that it's beginning to show right now with Roosevelt going over there, thousands of miles away from our shores, being the main speaker, the dominant speaker at an Asian Defense Minister's Conference, starting to try to pick a fight with China, when we've got our 7th Fleet prowling into their China Straits and China Sea, thousands of miles away, From our shores, it looks like some of these Democrats are arguing against Bush by being more Bush than Bush.

02:24:14.000 On the one hand, they say we should have sent in hundreds of thousands of more troops.

02:24:18.000 That's not opposing Bush.

02:24:20.000 That's being more Bush than Bush, and then they counterpose to that.

02:24:23.000 Well, we should be more concerned with picking a fight with North Korea or China. 0.88

02:24:27.000 That would be even more genocidal and more murderous.

02:24:30.000 And I think, you know, I was even reading in the official media of North Korea where they said, we want in no way any confrontation or conflict with the United States.

02:24:39.000 I don't want to defend North Korea purely evil, but you're right. 1.00

02:24:45.000 They're saying peace, peace, but you read our headlines, Kim Jong-il says he's going to kill us.

02:24:52.000 And so those are lies, but I'll tell you this, John, you could be right.

02:24:57.000 That the crisis may not be Bush nuking a city or releasing smallpox.

02:25:02.000 The global crisis to bring in the New World Order may well be World War III.

02:25:06.000 They may start it.

02:25:08.000 They may blow up one of our ships and say North Korea did it.

02:25:11.000 Exactly.

02:25:12.000 But I think China's in on the game, sir, and I think they'll play along with it.

02:25:15.000 Same with your precious pootie-poot. 0.99

02:25:17.000 No, they're not anything that I'm, you know, necessarily defending, but I'm just saying that North Korea has said that they looked at the example of Of a wreck where they got down on their knees and totally disarmed themselves.

02:25:28.000 Well, I'm telling you, Pootie Poot's in bed with Bush. 1.00

02:25:32.000 Oh, you're talking about, uh, yeah, Putin.

02:25:34.000 Well, that's Bush.

02:25:35.000 Our president calls him Pootie Poot, so I'll call him that. 1.00

02:25:38.000 Do you know what President Bush calls, uh, calls Rumsfeld?

02:25:43.000 Can't say it on the air.

02:25:44.000 Do you know his nickname, uh, for Karl Rove?

02:25:48.000 No. 1.00

02:25:49.000 Well, let's just say this shows major mental illness. 0.92

02:25:53.000 Yeah, but I think there's a simpler way to explain it. 0.88

02:25:56.000 I think it's just a matter of inter-imperialist rivalry, and the United States is the top imperialist in the world.

02:26:01.000 That's all it is.

02:26:02.000 And they are powerless junior partners.

02:26:05.000 The European Union just saw that they were being cut out of their, cut the top politicians there, and they will look cave-in and go along as soon as they can.

02:26:14.000 But that was designed to be done.

02:26:15.000 I'm talking about the financial interests, not the public's.

02:26:18.000 Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

02:26:21.000 Those people over there, And the Iraqi people don't want anybody in there. 1.00

02:26:26.000 John, it's simple.

02:26:27.000 You've got a multi-headed Hydra that doesn't want you to know it's a Hydra, so it stages fights between its different heads.

02:26:34.000 The fight is against the people, like George Orwell said.

02:26:37.000 Well, I think that there are real conflicting differences of interest between the European Union, for instance, And they are not the aggressors.

02:26:47.000 China and North Korea are not the aggressors.

02:26:49.000 The ones that stated that they want to and are carrying out world domination is the U.S.

02:26:53.000 branch of that military.

02:26:56.000 But I'm telling you, John, it's the same big banks in Europe are the predominant owners of our media and our government.

02:27:03.000 Well, I think somehow that's a kind of a diversion to say the foreign enemy, once again, is the one behind us.

02:27:09.000 They have their own... Sir, it isn't about what you think.

02:27:12.000 It's about the evidence, sir.

02:27:14.000 Well, I do know there are connections, but I think there's also conflict.

02:27:19.000 It's an inter-imperialist rivalry, but we're the bad bully on the block.

02:27:24.000 We've got all the weapons and we're using them around the world and threatening the world.

02:27:29.000 But, sir, they have to have the false division, the false choice.

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02:30:56.000 Alright, I want to get into the latest mad cow news. 0.68

02:31:00.000 Also, this move towards world taxation becoming a lot clearer.

02:31:05.000 We'll take three final calls here as well from Walt and John and Mike.

02:31:11.000 That's all I have time for.

02:31:13.000 But before we do this, this happened last Friday.

02:31:16.000 Outrage after GOP cuts off microphones at Patriot Act hearing.

02:31:22.000 A furor erupted after Republican House Judiciary Chairman James F. Sensenbrenner shut off the microphones during a hearing on the Patriot Act Friday, accusing Democrats of raising issues unrelated to the act, such as treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

02:31:36.000 Well, that shows how the government will ignore people's rights, and how this gives them a blank check.

02:31:43.000 I mean, just no warrants, period.

02:31:45.000 Forget just rubber stamps.

02:31:47.000 Just no warrants, period.

02:31:49.000 The Democrats' leader in the House, Nancy Pelosi, called the move a shameful attempt today to silence the Democrats at hearings this morning on the impact of the Patriot Act and demanded the Republican leadership force Sensenbrenner to apologize.

02:32:04.000 Well, most Democrats voted for the Patriot Act, too, and they say they'll vote for this one.

02:32:09.000 It's just more chicken-fighting, more mindless partisanship to make you think there's a choice.

02:32:15.000 Meanwhile, the LA Times is telling the truth.

02:32:18.000 Says Patriot Act push angers some on the right.

02:32:21.000 A Senate panel vote riles conservatives concerned about the reach of federal power.

02:32:28.000 A closed door vote by the Senate Intelligence Committee last week to expand law enforcement powers under the USA Patriot Act is prompting sharp criticism from some conservative leaders who are otherwise among the most vocal allies of President Bush and the Republican leadership in Congress.

02:32:44.000 The conservative leaders who have formed a coalition with critics on the left, including the American Civil Liberties Union, vowed to press their concerns in coming days with public statements, rallies, and radio advertisements in key congressional districts.

02:32:58.000 By the way, this is all a shill to limit how bad it really is, to make you think we're fighting, to control the movement against it.

02:33:05.000 Bob Barr voted for the First Patriot Act, by the way.

02:33:09.000 The conservatives included former Representative Bob Barr and political activists who have been long-standing critics of the anti-terrorism law, lashed out at particular forces last week against the White House.

02:33:18.000 Members of the Congress, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, they said they had expected a more open review of the Patriot Act in which lawmakers considered some limits in order to safeguard civil liberties.

02:33:29.000 But in a hearing Friday, they weren't even going to allow any witnesses, so members of the committee wanted to speak out, and Lord Sensenbrenner just said no.

02:33:41.000 Now, folks, here's the problem.

02:33:43.000 Whenever Bob Barr gets up, it's like, this could be misused against someone!

02:33:49.000 What do you mean, could be?

02:33:50.000 Pot dealers, topless bar owners, county commissioners, Rubik's Cube sellers, veterans that complain too much?

02:33:59.000 They're now putting cameras up all over Los Angeles with federal money saying it's infrastructure protection.

02:34:05.000 You know, every bit of data, everything you buy and do, Patriot Act, tracked and traced.

02:34:11.000 Drug prosecutors are using it all over the place going, we don't need warrants anymore, we have the Patriot Act.

02:34:19.000 So they put in these half-hearted fights.

02:34:22.000 It's like when I saw the head of Amnesty International on Fox a few weeks ago.

02:34:26.000 Then we go, and show me one piece of evidence, show me one piece of... And he should have said, Alberto Gonzalez's own memos calling for torturing people to death.

02:34:33.000 Brigadier General Rick Bacchus, quick Guantanamo, refusing to torture.

02:34:36.000 Two weeks ago, the head interrogator refused to torture anymore and went public. 0.93

02:34:42.000 We have the 15 of the Army's own reports, the Togumbo Report, admitting torturing people to death, raping women.

02:34:50.000 No, none of that.

02:34:51.000 You never put up a real fight.

02:34:53.000 They have stage fights.

02:34:54.000 These groups are staged.

02:34:56.000 I'm telling you.

02:34:59.000 Alright, here's some more theater. 0.99

02:35:02.000 With us, Sensenbrenner, and we'll go to your calls and cover some other news.

02:35:08.000 The Chair now recognizes himself.

02:35:11.000 First, the Chair would like to thank all of the witnesses for coming and appearing, and particularly in preparing your testimony on short notice.

02:35:20.000 Let me say that the purpose for which this hearing was called and the scope of the hearing was stated in the letter that was submitted to me, signed by the Democratic members, which was the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act.

02:35:33.000 I've sat here listening very patiently to the testimony, to the questions, to the answers.

02:35:41.000 And much of what has been stated is not relevant to the 16 sections of the USA Patriot Act which were sunsetted when the law was enacted in October of 2001.

02:35:55.000 One of the things that people who are opposed to the Patriot Act have been doing is stating that the Patriot Act was responsible for a whole host of frustrations or objections to administration policy.

02:36:08.000 This hearing confirmed that fact, that the Patriot Act is being used as a buzzword for people who have very broad brush objections.

02:36:19.000 I think that when Congress debates the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, we ought to stick to the subject, and that subject is the 16 provisions of the Patriot Act which we must consider and decide whether to reauthorize, whether to lapse, or whether to amend.

02:36:38.000 The Patriot Act has nothing to do with Guantanamo Bay.

02:36:42.000 The Patriot Act has nothing to do with enemy combatants.

02:36:46.000 The Patriot Act has nothing to do with indefinite detentions.

02:36:51.000 Those were provisions of other sections of the law, many of which occurred prior to the enactment of the Patriot Act.

02:36:59.000 Now, now, now, notice!

02:37:00.000 We're not talking about indefinite detentions.

02:37:02.000 We're not talking about camps.

02:37:03.000 We're not talking about, you know, enemy combatant designations.

02:37:08.000 Just all these massive things that they have been using the Patriot Act in.

02:37:13.000 And Patriot Act II would codify the enemy combatant designation and all that stuff that he just mentioned into law and that's what's being tagged on to this new Patriot Act expansion.

02:37:26.000 It isn't just past the 16 sections that elapse.

02:37:30.000 A lot of the key provisions do not elapse, by the way.

02:37:33.000 See, notice he just says 16 sections.

02:37:35.000 It's always been the terrorist threat doesn't end.

02:37:37.000 You know, in 2005, we've got to reauthorize and strengthen. 0.99

02:37:43.000 So, number one, he's a big fat liar. 0.94

02:37:47.000 You know, you'll be having a debate and they'll say, well that's not what we're discussing here. 0.99

02:37:47.000 But they do this. 0.99

02:37:50.000 Now we're going to limit the scope.

02:37:52.000 This is a lawyer thing they do. 1.00

02:37:55.000 I mean, we got Alberto Gonzales saying he's above the law, and so Sensenbrenner sees the witnesses they want to have, so he just doesn't even allow witnesses.

02:38:05.000 He just ends the whole debate.

02:38:08.000 Because he's saying that, you know, that none of this has anything to do with it.

02:38:13.000 So, I mean, it's mind-blowing.

02:38:16.000 Please go back to it.

02:38:18.000 Up to 2001.

02:38:20.000 The so-called CREPI Memorandum, which had a blanket closure of immigration proceedings, was issued before the Patriot Act was enacted, and the Deputy Attorney General testified earlier this week that it's no longer being followed.

02:38:37.000 And some of the testimony related to provisions of the Patriot Act... It was.

02:38:45.000 That's another thing they do.

02:38:46.000 There's nothing in there about stopping illegal aliens. 0.97

02:38:48.000 There's nothing in there.

02:38:49.000 You've heard Bush order the Border Patrol to stand down.

02:38:52.000 But they will throw terms around about stopping illegal immigrants and just mention that term to confuse the average person out there. 0.96

02:39:01.000 Please back to this liar. 0.64

02:39:04.000 And this committee put the sunset on provisions of the law which actually increased the powers of law enforcement, but did not put the sunset on those provisions of the law which restated the powers that law enforcement had had prior to October of... There you go!

02:39:23.000 See, he now admits that most of it isn't even sunsetted to begin with.

02:39:28.000 And it doesn't restate it.

02:39:30.000 Oh yeah, it connects in the U.S.

02:39:32.000 Code One thing they say that's true is Bush always says, well this is nothing we haven't used against drug dealers.

02:39:38.000 Yeah, it's true!

02:39:39.000 You pull a family over, they got five grand, you steal the five grand, no drugs, no pot seeds, no nothing!

02:39:45.000 You don't even arrest anybody, you just go prove it's yours.

02:39:49.000 Thousands of cases of asset forfeiture seizure.

02:39:53.000 Most of the bars, and I mean most folks, in Seattle are owned by cops now, you know why?

02:40:00.000 They will sell each other crack.

02:40:02.000 They will stage a drug deal.

02:40:05.000 Between the informant and a cop.

02:40:07.000 Between themselves.

02:40:09.000 In your bathroom.

02:40:10.000 And take your luxury restaurant and bar.

02:40:12.000 And keep it themselves.

02:40:13.000 You didn't know?

02:40:14.000 Oh yeah, it's been in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

02:40:18.000 So yeah, it's true.

02:40:19.000 A lot of this stuff they're putting into the Patriot Act, they've been doing for a while.

02:40:23.000 Boy, that's really true!

02:40:26.000 Now it just affects everybody.

02:40:27.000 Go ahead. 2001.

02:40:31.000 I think particularly irresponsible and indicative of the broad-brush accusations of the Patriot Act was what I just heard saying the Patriot Act has resulted in Minutemen being on the border.

02:40:44.000 That's not true, and that's irresponsible, and I think anybody who knows what is going on... No, I will not yield.

02:40:54.000 Right there!

02:40:55.000 See, he brings in something that he knows is wildly popular, the Minutemen.

02:41:01.000 How dare you say we cousin minute men!

02:41:05.000 Immigration, immigration! 1.00

02:41:06.000 See, trying to act like that's what it does. 1.00

02:41:09.000 See how this sneaky, sneaky lawyer, like you're the jury out there, a bunch of idiots. 1.00

02:41:16.000 Back to this moron. 1.00

02:41:18.000 Uh, uh, we'll see that fact. 0.99

02:41:20.000 You know, let me say that I think this hearing very, very clearly shows what the opponents of the Patriot Act are doing.

02:41:30.000 They'll talk about practically everything but what's in the Patriot Act and what this committee is considering.

02:41:37.000 The only really relevant testimony that I heard was from Mr. Pitts, relative to Section 215 of the Patriot Act, that said that librarians have been receiving all kinds of questions from law enforcement.

02:41:53.000 I'd like to ask you, Mr. Pitts, to submit for the record The names of the librarians that have received actual section 215 orders from the FISA court to produce business records.

02:42:06.000 And we'll give you a week to put that in the record.

02:42:06.000 I've interviewed them!

02:42:09.000 So thank you all for coming today.

02:42:11.000 I thank the members for changing their schedules to participate and the committee is adjourned.

02:42:20.000 Point of order Mr. Chairman.

02:42:23.000 He just walked off.

02:42:28.000 Well, he sounded panicked, didn't he?

02:42:32.000 He just shut the committee down.

02:42:35.000 I'm going to decide.

02:42:37.000 I'm going to decide what you're allowed to show.

02:42:41.000 I'm going to decide what's relevant.

02:42:44.000 I'm going to decide what you're allowed to show.

02:42:46.000 I'm going to decide what's relevant.

02:42:49.000 Oh, God.

02:42:50.000 All right.

02:42:57.000 So that's the end of it.

02:43:00.000 Basically, the chairman, because he controls everything, shut the microphones off and just left.

02:43:08.000 And that's what they do, folks.

02:43:10.000 I was about to mention 213, 215.

02:43:14.000 We have a giant section on PrisonPlanet.com of AP, Reuters, UPI, where A local topless bar owner gives a county commissioner $4,000 in a campaign contribution to give him zoning for parking.

02:43:33.000 And you may not like topless bars, folks, but the point is that that's not terrorism.

02:43:40.000 Or the lady who gets the Homeland Security visit under the Patriot Act.

02:43:43.000 They said, under the Patriot Act, we are in infrastructure protection.

02:43:45.000 Take those Rubik's Cubes off the shelves or we're going to charge you with terrorism.

02:43:50.000 I mean, we got like a hundred articles, it's gotta be more than that, where they use it.

02:43:54.000 All the time!

02:43:56.000 And these chairmen will get up and say, I've seen them before, I dare you to show me one place it's been used!

02:44:02.000 Committee adjourned!

02:44:03.000 End of discussion!

02:44:07.000 By the way, it isn't just the librarians, it's the librarians that are complaining.

02:44:11.000 215 is for every business.

02:44:13.000 Sole proprietorship.

02:44:14.000 Corporation.

02:44:16.000 Used car dealership.

02:44:18.000 Bank.

02:44:18.000 Grocery store.

02:44:21.000 Bookstore.

02:44:23.000 Only the librarians and Borders Books, complain about it too, have refused.

02:44:29.000 That's why you've heard about it.

02:44:30.000 It's any records.

02:44:31.000 It's you will give me all your records and you won't tell anybody ever that I took these records or you'll be charged with terrorism.

02:44:41.000 They told the lady with the Rubik's Cube at Puffer Belly Toys.

02:44:46.000 We had her on, remember?

02:44:47.000 They told her keep her mouth shut. 0.61

02:44:49.000 So she called and said, this isn't even an illegal toy I'm selling.

02:44:53.000 It's not a knockoff.

02:44:53.000 She called Rubik's Cube.

02:44:54.000 Well, no, our patent's been up for two years.

02:44:58.000 They were at that little lady's office thinking she wouldn't do anything to set the precedent. 0.78

02:45:07.000 I mean, folks, there's so many examples of it.

02:45:12.000 I'm just blown away right now.

02:45:13.000 I don't even know.

02:45:14.000 I got a bunch of news I wanted to hit here, but let's just go quickly to calls.

02:45:18.000 Walton, Michigan.

02:45:18.000 Who's up next here?

02:45:20.000 Go ahead, Walt.

02:45:21.000 How you doing, Alex?

02:45:21.000 Good.

02:45:23.000 A couple things.

02:45:24.000 You stated that you're going to be on Coast to Coast Thursday.

02:45:27.000 That's this coming Thursday and the 16th?

02:45:29.000 Yes.

02:45:30.000 What is the time of that show?

02:45:32.000 What channel?

02:45:33.000 It's at Midnight Central.

02:45:34.000 I don't know the station in your area.

02:45:38.000 It's on about 500 radio stations.

02:45:40.000 I'm sure you can find it.

02:45:41.000 The second thing I wanted to make a comment or give you a little history.

02:45:41.000 Okay.

02:45:46.000 An experience I had concerning the open borders that we're experiencing now.

02:45:51.000 Back in the 80s, I was in contact with a Contra who was on radio, talk shows up here in Michigan at times, and on shortwave as well.

02:45:51.000 Okay, sir.

02:45:59.000 And I talked to him personally on the phone.

02:46:01.000 He called me and told me that insurgents are going to be coming across our border and coming into the United States and setting up an infrastructure of undermining our power structures, food terrorism, whatever you want to call it, where they go in and poison our foods and cause all kinds of upheaval.

02:46:20.000 Uh, as a prelude to a foreign invasion.

02:46:24.000 Now, Lenin said the soft underbelly of the United States, and he said this back when he was alive back in the 20s.

02:46:31.000 But if there's going to be any invasion, sir, it's going to be by our own government, like Los Zetas. 0.99

02:46:36.000 The CIA controls them. 0.60

02:46:38.000 They're out killing people.

02:46:39.000 Well, what I wanted to say is this.

02:46:41.000 I knew back in the 80s, and I was telling a guy at work, I work with a Mexican-American, I shouldn't say he's that slash American, but he's a Mexican-American, and he said, ah, he started laughing and mocking and making fun of me, and all that ain't gonna happen, that's not going on, and it's been going on for a long time.

02:47:00.000 And a lot of it's legitimate people who are wanting to work and make money, but don't want to go through the green card program to come in here.

02:47:08.000 Well, sir, what's going on is admitted over a hundred killings last year in Texas alone.

02:47:13.000 Mexican special forces on the US payroll publicly are running around slaughtering citizens that don't pay them their cut.

02:47:20.000 Now, you remember that sheriff down there on Border County?

02:47:25.000 Jim Hogg County.

02:47:26.000 Yeah, I talked to this guy on the phone.

02:47:28.000 Personally talked to him.

02:47:29.000 I think I called your call-in line.

02:47:32.000 We've had the sheriff on.

02:47:34.000 Yeah, he's no patriot, he's no American. 0.84

02:47:36.000 No, the foreign troops, yeah, shooting at them. 0.93

02:47:38.000 Thanks for the call.

02:47:39.000 If I sound frustrated, it's just, sir, the show's on at midnight, but I can't tell you what affiliate it is.

02:47:39.000 I appreciate it.

02:47:45.000 I mean, I don't know everything.

02:47:46.000 But I'm frustrated here because I've got a bunch of news, and I'm almost out of time.

02:47:51.000 There's no time to cover everything.

02:47:54.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Tennessee.

02:47:58.000 John, go ahead.

02:47:59.000 Hey, Alex, how you doing?

02:48:01.000 I'm going to have to let you go.

02:48:03.000 Thank you for the call.

02:48:03.000 I'm sorry.

02:48:05.000 I'm not doing well with the radio turn way up.

02:48:07.000 We're going to go on a break now and come back.

02:48:11.000 And after this break, I may take a call or two if the radios are down.

02:48:18.000 And then I will hit on this story here about Mad Cow and the story about world taxation and a few others.

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02:51:43.000 Yeah, I get a little frustrated sometimes.

02:51:51.000 It's not even with you, the callers.

02:51:53.000 I mean, I'm just looking at these articles.

02:51:55.000 Police turn to scan of irises?

02:51:57.000 Police turn to scan of irises to track kids, Associated Press.

02:52:01.000 They need to make all children retina scans for their safety.

02:52:04.000 G8 wants tax on airline tickets to help world poor.

02:52:11.000 Airline groups have condemned plans by the world's richest countries to impose a tax on airline tickets to fund extra money for poor African countries and make a gesture towards fighting climate change.

02:52:22.000 That's all it is, is world taxation.

02:52:24.000 They want an oil tax, a money transfer tax, and it's all global and it'll start at one half of one percent and be massive overnight.

02:52:34.000 Here's another one.

02:52:35.000 Times of London.

02:52:35.000 Disruptive toddlers to be treated as potential criminals.

02:52:38.000 See?

02:52:39.000 Thought crime.

02:52:40.000 Children as young as three are to be singled out by nursery staff if they display aggressive behavior or have a family background of criminality according to government report.

02:52:51.000 The study leaked yesterday proposed nursery staff should note children of three or four who bullied other children as deemed as a risk of growing up to be criminals.

02:53:00.000 This just starts a report and a dossier on you.

02:53:03.000 They already do that here in the U.S.

02:53:04.000 Second U.S.

02:53:05.000 case of mad cow possible.

02:53:08.000 There appear to be more questions than answers about a Department of Agriculture's announcement Friday night that the U.S.A.

02:53:13.000 might have its second case of mad cow disease.

02:53:18.000 We hear these announcements every week or two, and it's always a false report.

02:53:21.000 There's no mad cow. 0.93

02:53:23.000 Everybody else has got it, but we have the worst practices of feeding rotten meat to cows that aren't even meant to eat meat.

02:53:30.000 But there's no problem here.

02:53:31.000 Everything's fine.

02:53:32.000 Trust your government.

02:53:33.000 It's official, British Secret Service did murder SS Chief Heinrich Himmler.

02:53:39.000 The British government has now released the documents where they ordered his execution.

02:53:44.000 He tried to turn himself in and did, and wanted to end the war early, but they went ahead and killed him because he had too many connections to the British government.

02:53:52.000 That would have been embarrassing.

02:53:53.000 Of course it would have been. 1.00

02:53:55.000 Gotta kill your wind-up toy once you're done with him. 0.99

02:53:59.000 And that's most of the news. 0.99

02:54:01.000 There's some of it I didn't get to.

02:54:04.000 But before we try to talk to Mike in Texas, just very briefly...

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02:55:28.000 Alright, let's go to Mike in Texas.

02:55:29.000 Mike, thanks for holding your our tail gunner.

02:55:32.000 Hey, Alex, how's it going?

02:55:33.000 Good, sir.

02:55:34.000 Our Vice President, our Vice Bureau, was on TV on MSNBC an hour ago, and the headliner said, we are obliged to treat them, the prisoners in Guantanamo, as enemy combatants.

02:55:50.000 And then the words out of Cheney's mouth said, they don't qualify for Geneva Convention Protection, because they didn't don a uniform.

02:56:00.000 They didn't play by the rule.

02:56:02.000 Therefore, if we don't ever don a uniform, we're in big trouble.

02:56:05.000 Well, our police don't wear uniforms now.

02:56:07.000 Most our military doesn't.

02:56:09.000 So, are they, uh, are they gonna be subjected to Guantanamo Bay type tactics?

02:56:15.000 Well, the point is, it is a crime is a crime.

02:56:17.000 You can't torture anybody to death.

02:56:20.000 And that's true.

02:56:21.000 That's true. 0.82

02:56:21.000 If they just die, it's their fault. 0.82

02:56:24.000 Good points.

02:56:25.000 Anything else?

02:56:26.000 No, that's it.

02:56:26.000 I want to know a lot more.

02:56:28.000 I know you're out of time, so you go ahead and close out.

02:56:30.000 We'll have a great day.

02:56:31.000 Alright, God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - June 13, 2005

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