Alex Jones Show - 20051111_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, my friends, it is Friday, November 11, 2011.

00:00:37.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours, and I'll tell you, so many times, Mondays and Fridays shape up to be our most powerful broadcast, and today is certainly going in that direction.

00:00:53.000 It just came out yesterday.

00:00:56.000 Well, it was actually published this morning, and we picked it up Just a few hours later, Professor Thinks Bombs, Not Planes, toppled WTC.

00:01:09.000 Stuart Johnson, Desert Morning News, took the particular photo of Professor Jones, and it's him standing there with a screen behind him showing the buildings blowing up.

00:01:26.000 And this was written by Elaine Jarvik out of the Desert Morning News.

00:01:30.000 The physics of 9-11, including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell, prove official explanations of the collapse are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor.

00:01:44.000 In fact, it's likely that there were pre-positioned explosives in all three buildings at Ground Zero, says Stephen E. Jones.

00:01:54.000 No relation to this, Jones.

00:01:56.000 In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer review publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the website WTC7.net, an incredibly well done site, whose research Jones quotes.

00:02:13.000 Jones' article can be found at physics.byu.edu forward slash research forward slash energy html seven dot html.

00:02:24.000 And we've got it all posted on InfoWars.com right now, and the professor is writing something special for us as well to post on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:02:34.000 He'll be joining us in, well, exactly 13 minutes from now.

00:02:41.000 Then coming up in the second hour, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Public Political Economy, And Research Fellow at the Independent Institute.

00:02:57.000 He is a former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, former Contributor Editor for National Review, and a former Assistant Secretary of the U.S.

00:03:05.000 Treasury.

00:03:06.000 He is co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

00:03:09.000 And, of course, he'll talk about bombs in the buildings, and government-sponsored terror, and total martial law on the end of America, and how Bush is basically left of Mao Zedong and Pol Pot.

00:03:22.000 So, that's coming up to cover a host of issues, like this article he wrote, the Syria scam, and several other reports here that he's put out.

00:03:31.000 The police state is closer than you think.

00:03:34.000 Those are some of the articles he's written just in the last few weeks.

00:03:36.000 Paul Craig Roberts joins us, and then Bob Dacey, local talk show host, contributor to Infowars.com.

00:03:44.000 He went as an official reporter for the New American Magazine.

00:03:49.000 Up to a university north of here, and it was in the press conference.

00:03:52.000 We're going to put a link up to that press conference.

00:03:54.000 And brought up some questions to the chieftains, some of the chief floggers or whips that are out pushing the free trade area of the Americas.

00:04:05.000 And the intel he got from the meeting they had and from the press conferences, they are having major problems worldwide getting their global government through it.

00:04:13.000 And they're very frustrated and very, very angry.

00:04:16.000 So in the third hour, Bob Dacey will join me in the studio.

00:04:20.000 Yes, our virgin voyage in my new studio.

00:04:22.000 First guest to be in studio.

00:04:25.000 I've not had guests in my studio.

00:04:27.000 It was a tiny cubbyhole, soundproofed room in my house.

00:04:30.000 Now I'm in an official studio here in my offices.

00:04:34.000 And so we're having lots of guests in studio.

00:04:36.000 Paul Watson and his brother Steve Watson will be in studio next week.

00:04:40.000 And I hope to get George Humphreys and Tex Mars and other great luminaries on with us as well in studio.

00:04:46.000 Big show today, three powerhouse guests as we expose the terrorists that carried out 9-11 and defend this republic from enemies foreign and domestic.

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00:08:33.000 Central Standard Time, we're here defending the Second Amendment, defending the borders, defending our sovereignty, exposing both political parties as being nothing more than mechanisms of the One World Government whose openly stated plan is your enslavement, the destruction of the middle class, a worldwide surf plantation.

00:08:53.000 Again, the former Assistant Secretary for the U.S.

00:08:55.000 Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts, Dr. Roberts, We'll be joining us coming up in the second hour to talk about impending martial law and the total police state takeover of America and government complicity in terrorist attacks.

00:09:11.000 And we do have a professor joining us in about five minutes, a physics professor, tenured, a senior, there at Brigham Young University, Stephen E. Jones, to talk about the deep analysis he's done of the findings that we have already, of course, published.

00:09:26.000 But he's added to it of the impossibility of the towers being destroyed by those aircraft.

00:09:31.000 Especially Building 7 not hit by an aircraft.

00:09:34.000 A few small fires magically implodes with the exact control demolitions signature.

00:09:39.000 The precise signature.

00:09:42.000 Which takes months to set up.

00:09:44.000 Total precise control.

00:09:45.000 I mean it's the equivalent of saying that a penguin sprouted rockets and flew to the moon by itself.

00:09:52.000 It's just That's the ultimate ridiculous conspiracy theory, and the globalists have gone too far this time.

00:09:59.000 It is demonstrably, verifiably a fraud what they've done, and we're going to expose it today.

00:10:05.000 And then Bob Dacey, who was inside a big free trade area at the Americas meeting, where they were saying that Texas is the key.

00:10:12.000 Texas is the keystone.

00:10:14.000 They've got to have it, and they're on the verge of failing.

00:10:17.000 And the toll roads are a big part of the world government.

00:10:20.000 And you'll find out why.

00:10:22.000 In fact, I need to give it to my webmaster.

00:10:24.000 It's here in the giant stack somewhere.

00:10:27.000 Bob is in the press conference there up at Baylor.

00:10:30.000 And he was there confronting them with real questions.

00:10:33.000 And the head UN Free Trade of the Americas minion was there. 1.00

00:10:36.000 And he turned into a bumbling fool. 0.97

00:10:38.000 So I want to get that posted. 0.99

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00:10:41.000 So the network up there in Minnesota can download that.

00:10:44.000 Play the clip where Bob confronts him coming up in the third hour with Bob Dacey.

00:10:50.000 Again, we'll be in studio with us.

00:10:52.000 Before our guest joins us here in about five minutes before the professor comes on with us, I just want to comment on something.

00:10:59.000 President Bush and Alberto Gonzales, the Attorney General, should be arrested and arrested now.

00:11:06.000 They should be indicted.

00:11:07.000 They should be charged.

00:11:09.000 They claim that you cannot indict a sitting president, but you can impeach him and then indict him.

00:11:14.000 But you can certainly indict the Attorney General.

00:11:17.000 You can certainly indict some of the other individuals in the White House.

00:11:21.000 The Attorney General's Openly, when he was Chief White House Counsel, said that they can torture people to death, in the famous Gonzales memos, there were four of them, and that if they die under torture, if we didn't kill them on purpose, then it's not torture.

00:11:37.000 And that we simply change the name to pressure.

00:11:39.000 So, so, because they semantically changed the name, it's no longer torture.

00:11:45.000 And I remember right after 9-11, going into 2002, they had the CIA section chief of the Washington Post saying, torture is good, and we're torturing people in third-party countries, Egypt, Jordan, and even some Eastern Bloc nations.

00:12:02.000 And then some of the lighter photos got released from Abu Ghraib of the dogs biting people, and sewing people up without anesthesia, and beating people, and people who've been beaten to death.

00:12:15.000 I see light photos. 0.92

00:12:16.000 The Congress admits there's photos of children being raped and women being raped. 0.90

00:12:20.000 We're talking about small children here. 0.70

00:12:22.000 I know the neocons probably say, good, we gotta get Tub on Terror.

00:12:26.000 But I thought Joseph Mingala tortured children.

00:12:28.000 So is Joseph Mingala good?

00:12:30.000 Or is he bad?

00:12:31.000 Were the North Vietnamese torturing our troops good? 0.89

00:12:33.000 Or are they bad?

00:12:34.000 Well, I'll say they're bad.

00:12:35.000 I still have my moral compass.

00:12:37.000 It hasn't been robbed from me.

00:12:39.000 I couldn't believe in horror three years ago, I was debating people on air about this.

00:12:43.000 I had guests on who were, yeah Alex, you've sold out to Al-Qaeda, we need to torture.

00:12:50.000 But now they're shamed, many of them.

00:12:52.000 But some are still on the radio.

00:12:54.000 I heard some guy on WOAI last night going, I like it, it's good, we need more of it.

00:12:58.000 So what?

00:12:59.000 We ought to get rough.

00:13:01.000 That's because it's now come out that they have these torture camps All over the Eastern Bloc.

00:13:07.000 From Uzbekistan to places like Prague.

00:13:14.000 So they've got them all over.

00:13:17.000 Hungary and you name it.

00:13:21.000 In these former torture chambers that the Soviets had.

00:13:26.000 And they're doing unspeakable things there.

00:13:28.000 Then the Senate comes out and says, we're passing a law saying that you've got to follow the Army manual, you can't brutalize people, you can only torture them a little bit.

00:13:37.000 And Bush says, oh no, I'm going to veto that, while simultaneously saying he's against torture.

00:13:42.000 Then, simultaneously, we have Dick Cheney coming out and saying, no, no, no, the CIA needs to continue to be able to torture people.

00:13:55.000 So, they're sending Grainer to jail.

00:13:58.000 They're sending England to jail.

00:14:00.000 They're sending all these people to prison for torturing.

00:14:06.000 They've invoked the Patriot Act on one of the private contractors in Afghanistan who beat people to death under orders.

00:14:10.000 That's admitted.

00:14:12.000 And when he blew the whistle, And said, look, I was ordered to do this.

00:14:16.000 They said, that's it.

00:14:17.000 Patriot Act.

00:14:18.000 We're invoking the Patriot Act.

00:14:19.000 You can't have a defense, and you can't speak out, and you can't talk to the media.

00:14:22.000 And he's disappeared into one of the very camps he was helping run.

00:14:26.000 So for those out there doing the torture, you better understand, your Fuhrer won't protect you. 0.95

00:14:31.000 This is unprecedented.

00:14:32.000 It is not... I shouldn't even have to be on the air saying we shouldn't torture.

00:14:36.000 But the point is, the stated policy of this government is torture.

00:14:41.000 Brutal torture.

00:14:43.000 Torturing people to death.

00:14:45.000 That's in the Gonzales Memos.

00:14:46.000 And Bush has proven that's what he's for, because he says he'll veto any restrictions on torture.

00:14:51.000 So, clearly, if you're going to put Greiner in prison, and England in prison, and a few other demons in prison, then we've got to move for impeachment and indictments.

00:15:01.000 It's just that simple.

00:15:03.000 And why others haven't called for it, I don't know.

00:15:05.000 And you know, folks, I've been a Republican, I am a conservative.

00:15:08.000 Just like Dr. Roberts coming on in the next hour.

00:15:10.000 He says the exact same things I'm saying.

00:15:13.000 We are living in a nightmare.

00:15:14.000 This could turn into Nazi Germany very quickly. 0.58

00:15:16.000 They're not stopping.

00:15:18.000 I've got family, folks, who is in Special Forces.

00:15:21.000 They've been told they're going into Syria.

00:15:24.000 Now, I don't know if that's going to happen, but they've been told they're going in.

00:15:26.000 And now we hear they've broken diplomatic connections, they're talking about attacking them, they're calling up more reserves, they're rotating even more troops into Israel and into Iraq.

00:15:36.000 This is scary!

00:15:38.000 Alright, I am honored to have our guest with us for the Balance of the Hour the next 45 minutes.

00:15:45.000 And here's the headline of the Desert Morning News.

00:15:47.000 It's up on InfoWars.com.

00:15:49.000 We've also put up there his The physics paper that he wrote up on this, his hypothesis, he's going according to scientific fact.

00:15:58.000 He's just saying, okay, well the evidence, the science, the math shows this, that it had to be explosives, but I'm open for debate.

00:16:08.000 He's not even saying that's what happened.

00:16:10.000 He's scientifically saying, prove your hypothesis that two planes did this.

00:16:16.000 And I can only commend him for doing this.

00:16:19.000 He joins German Defense Ministers and Technology Ministers.

00:16:22.000 He joins members of the British Parliament, senior members of Blair's Cabinet.

00:16:27.000 He joins Paul Craig Roberts.

00:16:29.000 He joins Mr. Reynolds from other major federal departments, Chief Economist.

00:16:35.000 He joins quadrants of people And other professors who have come out and just said this is impossible.

00:16:42.000 Of course we have Larry Silverstein saying he blew it up, so I don't know what more of that you need.

00:16:45.000 I mean, there's an admission.

00:16:47.000 But we are honored to be joined by Stephen E. Jones.

00:16:51.000 I guess no relation to the Oklahoma City bombing lawyer and no relation to Alex Jones.

00:16:57.000 But Stephen E. Jones, keeping up with the Joneses.

00:17:00.000 Professor Jones, Dr. Jones, good to have you on with us.

00:17:03.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

00:17:05.000 It's a pleasure to be able to talk to you about these things.

00:17:10.000 Well, it's a pleasure to be able to talk to you, sir.

00:17:14.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:17:14.000 I was pleased that the Deseret Morning News here, which is one of our major papers in Utah, was able to put this and willing to put it on the front page of their paper yesterday.

00:17:29.000 And, of course, they did a decent job.

00:17:32.000 I was pleased to get that out in the media.

00:17:34.000 There's a snowball effect of prominent people, very respected and in impeccable records, that are now just saying, look, the Emperor is not wearing any clothes.

00:17:46.000 Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, and as you mentioned, and I appreciate your fairness in that, my paper, which is available, as you mentioned, I hope people will actually read it.

00:17:57.000 That's their homework for today, as I like to tell my students.

00:18:02.000 But in my paper, I present evidence for explosive demolition, particularly of Building 7, World Trade Center 7, but also the towers.

00:18:13.000 I mean, Building 7 was not even hit by a jet.

00:18:16.000 So this common knee-jerk reaction, we hear, oh, it was the jet fuel and jets and so on.

00:18:21.000 But there was no jet that hit Building 7, yet it came down symmetrically.

00:18:26.000 So the evidence is strong, but at the same time I'm presenting it as a hypothesis that needs to be investigated further.

00:18:35.000 Well, I agree with you, sir, and I have your research paper here in front of me.

00:18:40.000 I'd like to go through it in the next 40 minutes or so after we go to this quick break.

00:18:46.000 For laymen out there to understand just its mathematical facts, steel doesn't melt at this point.

00:18:52.000 Other examples, hundreds of buildings that have burned for hours or days with 100-foot white flames shooting out.

00:18:59.000 Nothing collapses, but little bitty black fires, very low temperature, magically make a building and implode with total precision.

00:19:07.000 And just kind of chronicle all of this.

00:19:10.000 And then I want to first off ask you when we come back from break why you're deciding to go public.

00:19:15.000 When you began to question things, when you began to research, Professor, listen.

00:19:19.000 Let me give people the website.

00:19:20.000 It's physics.byu.edu forward slash research, forward slash energy, forward slash html, seven dot html.

00:19:29.000 The easiest thing to do, folks, is go to InfoWars.com.

00:19:31.000 We have links to the website itself and we're mirroring his paper.

00:19:36.000 We've posted it.

00:19:37.000 We've grabbed it.

00:19:39.000 We have a link to WTC7.net as well.

00:19:41.000 Just premier research.

00:19:42.000 They focus specifically in on that.

00:19:45.000 And also we have a link to the Desert Morning News.

00:19:48.000 Professor thinks bombs, not planes.

00:19:50.000 Topple WTC7.

00:19:52.000 We'll be right back after this quick break.

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00:24:35.000 And I know what the professor, the doctor, is doing.

00:24:37.000 You know, he's not saying I have to prove what I'm saying.

00:24:41.000 He's saying, hey, prove what you're saying, because it's impossible.

00:24:45.000 Doctor, I'll continue.

00:24:47.000 Tell us, just in a nutshell, when you started to wake up, what the main questions were, when the light bulb really went off, how much research you did, and then let's go through your research paper.

00:24:57.000 Okay.

00:24:58.000 Sounds good, Alex.

00:25:01.000 It was actually last May, so I'm kind of a Johnny-come-lately to this research, but I've really studied it vigorously since then.

00:25:13.000 In May, I went to a talk by a woman who had had near-death experience.

00:25:20.000 My wife is very interested in this, and I had some interest in it, but it wasn't that.

00:25:25.000 It was her comment.

00:25:26.000 She said, just in passing, That the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to planes and fire.

00:25:38.000 You've got a lot of surprises ahead of you.

00:25:41.000 And the audience just exploded in applause.

00:25:43.000 And I'm sitting there, what?

00:25:46.000 What is she talking about?

00:25:48.000 So apparently quite a few people around here had studied this and she hit a point that That raised a great deal of interest and certainly in me I decided I better study this and find out what was going on.

00:26:05.000 So just out of the blue you saw this facade fall down.

00:26:10.000 You saw the matrix for a second.

00:26:12.000 I mean, yeah, okay, right, but I mean to me it was just the initiation of the research.

00:26:17.000 Then I fortunately I found Jim Hoffman's WTC7.net very quickly.

00:26:25.000 Jim has done a great deal of solid research.

00:26:29.000 Now, in my paper, I point out that there is some research that is not as solid, and that tends to distract from the more firm scientific effort, unfortunately.

00:26:43.000 But Jim's getting into his research and then following up on some points, conservation and momentum, I looked at.

00:26:53.000 The building 7, the squibs coming off, I looked at the timing and the sequence of these squibs and of course I'm in communication then with Jim Hoffman.

00:27:02.000 For laymen, tell us what squibs are.

00:27:06.000 Oh sure.

00:27:08.000 When a building is demolished, and I have read up on building demolition, it's a very interesting field.

00:27:15.000 But, and it doesn't take a PhD to understand, you know, when you have an explosion, you get a puff or jet of gas and dust that comes off near the explosion.

00:27:27.000 And often these jets of debris come flying out of the building.

00:27:33.000 And magically we see venting on all three.

00:27:37.000 Venting is a good word, or squibs is what they're called in the demolition field. 0.98

00:27:43.000 these jets of debris that come shooting out.

00:27:46.000 It's kind of like about punching in the nose, it's going to start bleeding.

00:27:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:50.000 Or a tooth might fly out if you hit hard enough.

00:27:54.000 And so these buildings now, in particular Building 7, the way the squibs appear is quite fascinating. 0.98

00:28:02.000 And of course, then the next step for me, after doing some analysis, some math, looking at the free fall or the time of collapse, Building 7 falls just very rapidly.

00:28:15.000 I mean freefall from the roof is 6.0 seconds.

00:28:19.000 I had students time it with me and we got just about 6.3 seconds.

00:28:25.000 I mean this building is supported with 24 steel columns in the center.

00:28:32.000 And a lot of perimeter columns, I forget the number right off.

00:28:35.000 But you can clearly see the central columns get blown before the collapse, a second before, which is a classic crimp implosion.

00:28:43.000 Yeah.

00:28:44.000 I mean, the evidence is there for that.

00:28:46.000 And so, you know, again, my point of view is this needs to be seriously investigated.

00:28:50.000 You see the kink, as you mentioned, in the building near the center.

00:28:56.000 implying that the core columns have been pulled or cut with some type of explosive.

00:29:02.000 It doesn't take a rocket scientist.

00:29:05.000 And, Doctor, tell folks why they do that.

00:29:08.000 Well, you do that because you pull the center down and the outer walls lean in a bit.

00:29:14.000 You can see this in the videos.

00:29:16.000 And then the building collapses symmetrically straight down.

00:29:19.000 Yeah, that way you only blow up the buildings that are with a particular client with your black op operation. 0.95

00:29:24.000 You don't hurt the goodies around it.

00:29:26.000 Well, that would be correct.

00:29:28.000 I mean if the intent is to Just bring the one building down on its footprint.

00:29:33.000 You have to plan carefully and plant the explosives carefully.

00:29:38.000 You said it, Doctor.

00:29:40.000 It takes months of total precision.

00:29:43.000 These are textbook.

00:29:45.000 These are A-plus control demolitions.

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00:33:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:07.000 We only have the good doctor, professor in physics with us for another 30 minutes or so, but I hope we're getting back up in the near future for a full hour.

00:33:20.000 And who knows, we might have time in the last five minutes to take a call or two, but we'll see.

00:33:24.000 We're not taking calls right now on other subjects.

00:33:26.000 We're talking about control demolitions, what really brought the towers down.

00:33:30.000 But before I go any further, it's important for you to understand that I had come into possession of official U.S.

00:33:38.000 government plans to carry out 9-11 style attacks before 9-11, and I had intel sources that Bin Laden was going to take the fall and the blame in a larger operation that would probably target the World Trade Center.

00:33:51.000 So I said on TV and radio that they would probably attack it in the next month or two, and indeed that did happen.

00:33:57.000 And you know, I don't make many predictions.

00:33:58.000 That's my sources.

00:34:00.000 And on day one I came out and exposed the fact 7 had clearly been blown up and that was a smoking gun and that there were clearly explosives in the other towers as well.

00:34:09.000 But 7 is a smoking gun.

00:34:11.000 And I went to New York last year and I went right up to the buildings and I showed how buildings snug up against the towers and had towers fall on them, burned for over a day, didn't collapse, nothing collapsed.

00:34:24.000 But this building way down the street, I mean it's like a block and a half away, hit by nothing.

00:34:29.000 It had some of the dust field hit it and had a small fire on two floors.

00:34:32.000 It magically collapses.

00:34:34.000 So out of the three hour mini-series that is Marshall Law, 9-1-1, Rise of the Police State, A full hour plus, an hour and fifteen of the total film is on 9-11.

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00:34:49.000 Public officials getting warned not to fly, NORAD standing down, Bin Laden being CIA, Al Qaeda being flown out to safety in Afghanistan.

00:34:58.000 This is all publicly admitted.

00:34:59.000 Hundreds of points.

00:35:01.000 Marvin Bush running security on the towers that day, his contract ending that day, what FBI agent Paul O'Neill, John O'Neill, excuse me, had said.

00:35:09.000 All of that.

00:35:11.000 I mean, it's hundreds of points, rapid fire, but we spend about 20 minutes.

00:35:16.000 I mean, it's a mini-doc.

00:35:18.000 With Silverstein saying they pulled it, the firefighters saying it, and now there's more firefighter tapes out.

00:35:23.000 It's conclusive, folks.

00:35:24.000 I mean, even Debra A. Griffin's now gone public and said, okay, it's conclusive, they did it.

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00:35:30.000 And then he was very circumscript about how he did it.

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00:36:32.000 Going back to our guest, again who I'm so honored to have on the line with us from Brigham Young University.

00:36:41.000 And that is, of course, Stephen E. Jones.

00:36:44.000 Dr. Jones is a professor of physics.

00:36:48.000 This is what he studies.

00:36:51.000 For every action, there's an equal or greater reaction.

00:36:54.000 And we're now seeing the chickens come home to roost on this fairy tale.

00:36:59.000 Because now the people that don't want to... People who said I was a kook two years ago.

00:37:04.000 I mean, big reporters at ABC News and other people who've attacked me.

00:37:09.000 Washington Post, others.

00:37:12.000 Before, I was crazy to say there were bombs in the buildings.

00:37:16.000 But now, oh yeah, there probably were bombs.

00:37:18.000 Al-Qaeda had planted them.

00:37:20.000 Folks, it takes months of teams drilling and planting to do this, okay?

00:37:25.000 But again, I'm going to shut up.

00:37:25.000 Do you understand?

00:37:28.000 Let's go back to the professor.

00:37:29.000 Professor, you were talking about problems with the official story as you were awakening in the last year, as you were researching this, as you were studying this.

00:37:36.000 Please continue, sir.

00:37:38.000 Alright, I'd be glad to do that, Alex.

00:37:43.000 Before I go on to problems in the official story, what you said triggered some thought in my mind about why I decided to come public.

00:37:53.000 I mean, I mentioned why I decided to research it initially just last May.

00:37:57.000 So, compared to you, I'm really a Johnny-come-lately here.

00:38:01.000 But I have pursued it vigorously for months now.

00:38:04.000 Very interesting.

00:38:05.000 It's fascinating to find something new.

00:38:09.000 I look at conservation of momentum.

00:38:12.000 I look at the symmetry of the fall, the time of the fall, I compare that with conservation of momentum, and conservation of anchoring momentum comes to play in building, that is, the South Tower.

00:38:26.000 But where I decided finally to come public with this, a lot of that had to do with a man by the name of Kevin Ryan.

00:38:37.000 And I'm sure you know Kevin, or have heard of him.

00:38:40.000 The major underwriter, yes.

00:38:41.000 Right.

00:38:42.000 Underwriter's Laboratory Manager.

00:38:45.000 And he wrote a letter to Frank Gale at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST.

00:38:54.000 And he said, look, we've built these models that trade I mean, you know, and then he goes through some arguments regarding the temperature required to cause the warping and creep to get actual collapse.

00:39:22.000 And he said, we're just not getting, you see, with fires, whether it's jet fuel, which burns off fairly quickly.

00:39:30.000 And then office materials, paper, furniture, and so on burning.

00:39:35.000 Well, we're just not getting the temperatures to cause the models to collapse.

00:39:41.000 And so he said it's very unlikely that the buildings, the World Trade Center buildings, collapse due to fire and damage.

00:39:50.000 That combination is just not...

00:39:52.000 Going to do it.

00:39:53.000 And by the way, we're talking about temperatures thousands of degrees lower in many cases.

00:39:57.000 For those that don't know, people think of jet fuels, ooh jets, it must be really explosive.

00:40:02.000 No, they actually, it's much weaker and burns a lot lower than gasoline.

00:40:08.000 It's very close to kerosene.

00:40:10.000 Right, it is close to kerosene, that's right Alec.

00:40:13.000 And so, and of course paper fires, you can imagine most, a lot of us have been camping, we burn fires.

00:40:21.000 You could use paper, it burns a little bit hotter than wood, but you don't see your steel pan melting or warping too badly, usually.

00:40:30.000 But the point of this is they built actual models, as requested by NIST, at Underwriters Laboratory, and they didn't collapse.

00:40:40.000 Kevin then became a whistleblower as he wrote this letter.

00:40:43.000 He said, it just doesn't add up.

00:40:47.000 Let me quote from the final NIST report on this subject.

00:40:52.000 Anyway, it's the courage of people like Kevin Ryan that I decided, you know, I've got to look at this too.

00:40:58.000 It's a very serious scientific objection to the fire-based theory.

00:41:05.000 But let me quote from the NIST report if I can, and this is in my paper.

00:41:10.000 And it's on page 141 of the final NIST report on the collapse of the towers.

00:41:17.000 And they say, NIST contracted with Underwriters Laboratories Incorporated to conduct tests to obtain information on the fire endurance of trusses like those in the WTC towers.

00:41:30.000 All four test specimens sustained the maximum design load for approximately two hours without collapsing.

00:41:39.000 And so they go on, these results establish that this type of assembly, they're talking about the assembly in the towers, was capable of sustaining a large gravity load without collapsing for a substantial period of time relative to the duration of fires in any given location on September 11th.

00:41:57.000 So in other words, they're admitting that the models, just like Kevin Ryan said, the models do not collapse.

00:42:07.000 And so... So this isn't just our opinion.

00:42:09.000 This is being scientifically tested by the major dominant international company that underwrites these hundred million dollar structures.

00:42:18.000 But let's expand on that.

00:42:19.000 We have, again, hundreds of major fires in the last seventy-five years of modern steel buildings.

00:42:25.000 The latest was the Madrid building, burned for almost forty-eight hours with hundred-foot white-hot flames, and that's, you know, white-hot as hot as it gets, shooting out And some tiny little inch of round metal up in the ceilings collapsed but none of the big supports even got damaged.

00:42:45.000 I mean there were still desks and furniture that hadn't melted that had been in the center of the inferno.

00:42:50.000 The thing looked like a giant Roman candle.

00:42:53.000 And people were expecting the Madrid building to collapse because the towers had collapsed.

00:42:53.000 Right, exactly.

00:43:00.000 CNN was going, it'll collapse just like it did.

00:43:02.000 That's just how it is.

00:43:03.000 But it didn't.

00:43:05.000 And as you say, no building has collapsed due to fire.

00:43:09.000 I mean, I have to say, the repeatability is the issue in scientific terms.

00:43:15.000 You can't get a model to fail.

00:43:17.000 Actual buildings that have fires, worse than the towers, certainly, or Building 7, much worse, And they don't collapse.

00:43:26.000 So how are we supposed to believe the fire collapse theory?

00:43:30.000 And now there's damage too.

00:43:32.000 That's true.

00:43:33.000 But not to Building... Okay, Building 7 had a little damage, but no jet plane hit it, so...

00:43:40.000 This raises the issue.

00:43:42.000 There must be some other hypothesis here that needs to be explored.

00:43:46.000 And then doctor, they've had four others, and then FEMA has to go back when those get examined and say, okay, that wasn't it.

00:43:52.000 First they claim a fuel oil container blew up.

00:43:55.000 Then it turns out it didn't.

00:43:56.000 That didn't cause it.

00:43:57.000 Then they claimed a bunch of other things.

00:43:59.000 Now they said that one of the towers fell into it and knocked out the central support.

00:44:04.000 Everybody knows it just had some debris hit it and knocked out a few windows.

00:44:07.000 That's totally false.

00:44:08.000 And they just keep throwing out frauds that they even have to admit are frauds later.

00:44:13.000 Yes, well, yeah, as you read in the NIST and FEMA reports, which I've read through, it makes interesting reading actually, because, well, like the part I just quoted.

00:44:23.000 It's like they have split personalities.

00:44:25.000 Yeah, the models don't fail, but we'll try computer hypotheticals, is what they resorted to in the NIST report.

00:44:33.000 Now, FEMA had the decency to say, look, This hypothesis, they call it the best hypothesis, is the only one they looked at, really, which is fire caused collapse of Building 7, has only a low probability of occurrence.

00:44:46.000 I quote that in my paper also, this FEMA.

00:44:49.000 So to their credit, they admit, we don't understand, and they say, they say that, we don't understand.

00:44:57.000 But what they should do, as good scientists, is say, now, what other hypothesis might apply?

00:45:03.000 We see squids.

00:45:05.000 We see a fast symmetrical collapse of this building.

00:45:09.000 Hmm.

00:45:10.000 It looks a little bit like controlled demolition.

00:45:13.000 Maybe we should consider...

00:45:15.000 But they don't.

00:45:16.000 That's exactly what I was about to bring up, Doctor, is that what is it in science when all the evidence over and over again in scientific testing shows, and in real life over and over again replicated with the exact same response, but then they ignore all of that historical evidence.

00:45:32.000 Ooh, that's a perfect controlled demolition.

00:45:34.000 I mean, there were controlled demolition experts and engineers.

00:45:37.000 You see, this is what we call in science, and I've studied a number of examples, what we call pathological science.

00:45:42.000 "Man, I've blown buildings like that." Well, that's a crimp.

00:45:45.000 I mean, then all the real experts, until they got told to shut up, were like, "That's ridiculous." But why do they ignore that then, Doctor? - You see, this is what we call in science, and I've studied a number of examples.

00:45:57.000 It's what we call pathological science.

00:45:59.000 It is putting on blinders so that you only look at, you start with a conclusion, and then you look at data that supports your conclusion.

00:46:10.000 The conclusion in this case is the buildings came down due to damage and fire.

00:46:17.000 We're not going to even consider anything else.

00:46:20.000 And that's pathological science to ignore all these other data.

00:46:27.000 And of course, to beat me up below that foregone conclusion... Well, it shows an agenda.

00:46:32.000 It does.

00:46:33.000 It does.

00:46:34.000 And the foregone conclusion as I mentioned in my paper is that they seem to be pushing for the Muslims did it and we don't want to consider any possibility of any other explanation. 0.98

00:46:47.000 Well, it's unscientific, that's what I'm trying to say.

00:46:51.000 We need to broaden the scientific investigation to include the obvious hypothesis of explosive demolition.

00:47:00.000 Now, obviously, they're ignoring the mountain of science and evidence and eyewitnesses.

00:47:07.000 scores of firefighters on record going, it was bombs.

00:47:11.000 They were detonating.

00:47:12.000 Did you see the bombs?

00:47:13.000 More and more recordings of this, all of this happening.

00:47:16.000 And then at the same time, we have reports like the 9-11 Commission put out where they just say, oh, this was a weird building, very weak.

00:47:26.000 It had no supports in its center.

00:47:29.000 But then I actually went down to the UT Architecture Department because they studied the building there and pulled it out.

00:47:34.000 It was talking about this is the biggest supports ever built.

00:47:37.000 Huge, 24 giant support columns.

00:47:40.000 But then I turned on Why the Towers Fell on Discovery Channel, and it was hollow.

00:47:45.000 It was a lattice. 0.99

00:47:46.000 It was pathetically weak. 0.91

00:47:48.000 But then the designer of it. 0.98

00:47:49.000 That's just not true.

00:47:50.000 Namuro Yamasaki says it could take multiple hits.

00:47:54.000 The main engineer on it, who died in the towers that day, says it could take multiple hits.

00:47:57.000 It's some of the strongest buildings ever built, Doctor.

00:48:00.000 And they just magically say it doesn't have these giant columns.

00:48:04.000 That's not just science.

00:48:05.000 That's like saying the sun didn't come up this morning.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:48:11.000 Unfortunately, they're getting away with it so far.

00:48:17.000 In science, when you come up with, now they've finally come up with their final report just a month ago, just over a month ago now.

00:48:26.000 This is the final report on the towers by NIST.

00:48:29.000 And it has glaring weaknesses that I outline and analyze in my paper.

00:48:37.000 But you know, they still, NIST has delayed, they say decoupled the report on Building 7, and now it's overdue.

00:48:46.000 So, obviously they're struggling to come up with an explanation.

00:48:52.000 It's called trying to fit the hypothesis.

00:48:55.000 That's a characteristic of bad science, by the way.

00:48:59.000 But anyway, obviously they're struggling to fit the hypothesis that fire caused the collapse of Building 7.

00:49:07.000 It just does not add up.

00:49:11.000 So, Doctor, where does it go from here?

00:49:13.000 I mean, more and more prominent individuals, I mean, I remember within a week, they had one of the chief scientists at the big mining college in New Mexico, with several degrees, a doctorate, and he went public and said, only explosives could do this.

00:49:27.000 I've done the mass explosives ratio.

00:49:29.000 He's an explosives doctor, you know, expert on that, explosives engineer, excuse me.

00:49:34.000 And they just said, look, we're going to take your funding if you don't shut up.

00:49:37.000 And he suddenly said, OK, I'm wrong. 0.92

00:49:39.000 I'll shut up.

00:49:40.000 Have you talked to him? 0.93

00:49:42.000 No, I haven't actually talked to him.

00:49:46.000 I've talked to others.

00:49:48.000 You know, Jack Wayland, a professor up in Idaho, and Jeff Strahl, who's out at University of California, Berkeley.

00:49:56.000 Jim Hoffman, of course.

00:49:57.000 David Griffin has done some excellent work, as you know, and books on these subjects.

00:50:03.000 But I haven't talked to Romero.

00:50:05.000 I was disappointed in his retraction without an explanation.

00:50:10.000 Usually when a scientist retracts a statement, which is, as you say, a very strong statement, it looks just like demolition, the characteristics match demolition, and so on.

00:50:20.000 This is on 9-11.

00:50:22.000 But then for him to retract a few days later without an explanation, That makes me think, well, that's not very scientific.

00:50:32.000 Well, that's right.

00:50:33.000 That's right.

00:50:35.000 When the physicist Stephen Hawking came out and said, OK, I was wrong about my black hole hypothesis, he then gave the equations and said why.

00:50:42.000 Here's why.

00:50:43.000 Sure.

00:50:43.000 That's the scientific way.

00:50:45.000 All right.

00:50:46.000 Well, Doctor, please stay with us for one more little final segment.

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00:54:11.000 We've got a criminal elite that openly had plans to carry out attacks on buildings, to hijack jets by remote control, to crash them, to blame it on the Soviets.

00:54:24.000 It's called Operation Northwoods, and we see the exact same type of plan being carried out.

00:54:28.000 You know, I've had, you've heard of them, the Admirals.

00:54:30.000 I've had the former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas Moore on this program.

00:54:35.000 I've had countless others.

00:54:36.000 People who took the phone calls from LBJ in 1967 when he said, I want that GD ship going to the bottom.

00:54:44.000 Been under attack for over two hours by torpedo boats, fighter bombers, being strafed, killed.

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00:54:52.000 And in between LBJ and the Israelis, they decided to attack the ship, try to sink it, kill everyone on board. 0.72

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00:55:12.000 You listen to me, Admiral, that ship's going to the GD bottom! 1.00

00:55:17.000 They lied about Gulf of Tonkin, 58,000 died.

00:55:20.000 Don't you think for a minute the people running this country won't pull stuff like this.

00:55:24.000 None of us are safe.

00:55:25.000 Do you understand?

00:55:26.000 Until we stand up and say no.

00:55:28.000 Now our guest is going to stay five minutes in the next hour with us and we'll get Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on with us.

00:55:33.000 And we're going to take a few calls.

00:55:35.000 Before we talk to Lew in California and a few others that want to talk to you, Doctor, here briefly, anything else you'd like to add?

00:55:42.000 Well, let's see.

00:55:45.000 There is an issue that I've looked at that's puzzling, and you've been to Ground Zero, and that is this molten metal that's reported in publications as molten metal was found in the basement of both towers after they collapsed and Building 7.

00:56:09.000 A prime piece of scientific information.

00:56:11.000 It is not mentioned in any of the government-funded reports.

00:56:16.000 What was it?

00:56:16.000 Four or five weeks later?

00:56:18.000 I mean, these are NASA photos.

00:56:20.000 Resonance.

00:56:20.000 Heat resonance.

00:56:21.000 And it is there.

00:56:23.000 Even conventional explosives wouldn't do that.

00:56:25.000 This is bizarre.

00:56:27.000 It is strange.

00:56:31.000 Why the government reports would just neglect to mention that?

00:56:36.000 Well, the government reports, Doctor, say that giant columns don't exist.

00:56:41.000 Yeah, well, FEMA. 0.85

00:56:42.000 Or at least they tended to use that as an explanation.

00:56:47.000 I think, though, that this molten metal, now I'm not convinced it was molten steel until it's analyzed, you see.

00:56:55.000 And so in my paper I call for As a scientific courtesy, when a government agency, which is taxpayer money, does a report, they should make them the data available to another scientist.

00:57:10.000 I wanted to look at this.

00:57:11.000 But they didn't allow any photography, and they GPS'd each piece of metal, and they guarded it like it was a big dirty secret.

00:57:18.000 Yeah.

00:57:19.000 And of course, the steel beams, most of them, except for 236, I think, These hundreds of thousands of tons of steel are carted off to Asia for recycling.

00:57:31.000 That's just a... I mean, it's a crime in itself.

00:57:34.000 Yeah, Communist China can have it, basically have it, but we're not allowed to even look at it.

00:57:40.000 Yeah, it's very strange.

00:57:41.000 And of course, over the protests of courageous people like Bill Manning of Fire Engineering Journal, And others protesting the destruction of that evidence.

00:57:53.000 That's right, and they said the way that building collapsed didn't make sense, but these are just firefighter engineers, let's not listen to them.

00:58:00.000 What do they know?

00:58:03.000 Anyway, back to this molten metal, I'm hoping that they saved a small sample of somebody, FEMA or NIST or somebody.

00:58:12.000 That we can analyze, because I think that this will be what we call a crucial experiment.

00:58:17.000 If it's iron, what I'm predicting is it'll be iron as opposed to steel.

00:58:22.000 And that would imply the thermite reaction, which produces molten iron as the end product.

00:58:29.000 That is the separation of the molecules in the steel.

00:58:32.000 Well, no.

00:58:33.000 No, no.

00:58:33.000 It's actually not.

00:58:34.000 It's... Well, I'll tell you what.

00:58:35.000 Stay there, Doctor.

00:58:36.000 We've got a break, but the clock waits for no man.

00:58:38.000 We'll come right back and let you finish.

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00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 All right, folks, we're back live.

00:59:31.000 and And we're talking right now to a physicist at Brigham Young University.

00:59:39.000 Headline, Professor Thinks Bombs Not Planes Topple WTC.

00:59:41.000 That's the Desert Morning News headline.

00:59:43.000 And he's, of course, Dr. Stephen E. Jones.

00:59:46.000 We're talking about thermite.

00:59:48.000 And of course, thermite is used in these, I guess, kind of these white phosphorus bombs in warfare.

00:59:54.000 Thermite will burn right through anything, and you're talking about this molten metal down in the basement, which NASA did photograph with its sensors.

01:00:02.000 This is admitted.

01:00:03.000 What would cause this but thermite?

01:00:05.000 You're a physicist.

01:00:06.000 Please continue.

01:00:08.000 Okay.

01:00:08.000 So, the reaction in thermite, the chemical reaction, involves iron oxide, basically rust, with which we're mostly, all of us, familiar.

01:00:22.000 And aluminum powder.

01:00:25.000 And when these are caused to ignite, which requires a fairly high temperature to touch it off, like burning magnesium.

01:00:31.000 But once it ignites, it burns extremely hot, as you say.

01:00:36.000 Hot enough to melt steel, yes, but cut right through steel.

01:00:41.000 And it can even evaporate steel, if that hot.

01:00:46.000 What the end product of thermites, you have iron oxide plus aluminum, it produces aluminum oxide, which that's where the great heat release comes there, plus molten iron.

01:01:00.000 Essentially pure iron then with this aluminum oxide as a residue would be found with this thermite reaction.

01:01:09.000 So this, these large pools of molten iron under both towers and Building 7, is a smoking gun for something, some very high temperature reaction and it indicates thermite.

01:01:25.000 Until we do the actual analysis, we can't state that for sure, but I certainly hope that scientists somewhere saved a small sample.

01:01:35.000 Could white phosphorus bombs do it?

01:01:38.000 It's not likely, Alex, that it would be that type of, well it's fairly sophisticated, To cut steel beams using thermite, but the point I'm trying to get at is we need to analyze that and surely some investigators say, wait a minute, molten metal, what in the world is that metal?

01:01:59.000 Let's analyze it.

01:02:00.000 So you think the evidence points towards the thermite?

01:02:05.000 I think it points towards it, yes.

01:02:07.000 And until we actually do the test, we can't be certain.

01:02:09.000 But there's a problem, doctor.

01:02:11.000 There's a problem.

01:02:12.000 They've done everything they can to hide that crime scene and to abscond with the evidence and not let us get to it.

01:02:18.000 So it'll be a cold day in hell when that happens.

01:02:23.000 Well, I'm just hoping that they'll say, well, let's see, we have to at least do the science.

01:02:33.000 I'm hoping that we can get some sample there.

01:02:36.000 The other thing is, it's possible and likely, actually, that the metallurgist involved in the FEMA study, what was his name, Jonathan, I can't remember his last name now, but anyway, that they actually did an analysis.

01:02:50.000 It just takes less than an hour, literally, x-ray fluorescence analysis, for instance, on the metal.

01:02:56.000 this molten metal, you could determine, is it mostly iron?

01:03:00.000 I mean, does it look like it's not molten steel?

01:03:02.000 Or is it iron with chromium and so on that makes it look like steel?

01:03:08.000 And just a very simple test which could tell us so much about what happened, what caused high temperatures, which, by the way, the fires, the jet fuel and the burning oxygen materials cannot melt the steel.

01:03:25.000 The scientists all agree on that.

01:03:27.000 Alright, Doctor, we're out of time.

01:03:29.000 I want to thank you for joining us.

01:03:31.000 Can we get you back up in the near future with an update?

01:03:33.000 I suppose we could.

01:03:34.000 And my best regards to Paul Craig Roberts.

01:03:38.000 I've communicated with him over email.

01:03:40.000 Well, he's in the wings right now, about to come on.

01:03:45.000 So you're saying hi to him right now.

01:03:46.000 Thank you, Dr. Jones.

01:03:48.000 Thank you.

01:03:49.000 Bye now.

01:03:49.000 Take care.

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01:07:15.000 You know, I'm sorry that we didn't get to any of your calls for the last guest, Dr. Stephen E. Jones, but he just kept bringing up so many important points.

01:07:29.000 We were unable to, but I will get to the folks that are holding later in this hour with our next guest, who we're extremely honored to have on with us, and he's Paul Craig Roberts.

01:07:40.000 Let me just read the short bio on Dr. Roberts.

01:07:45.000 He's a John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for He's a political economy and research fellow at the Independent Institute.

01:07:53.000 He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, a former assistant secretary of the U.S.

01:08:01.000 Treasury.

01:08:02.000 He is the co-author of the Tyranny of Good Intentions.

01:08:05.000 And I just had him on during the break.

01:08:07.000 I was talking to him.

01:08:08.000 I said, Dr. Roberts, what do you want to talk about?

01:08:12.000 And he brought up something that's in my list.

01:08:14.000 You know, when I call Dr. Roberts or Ron Paul or any of these great men, I don't, you know, pre-screen what we're going to talk about.

01:08:20.000 I just have them on.

01:08:21.000 We talk about whatever they think is important.

01:08:22.000 And it was right what I opened the show with today.

01:08:25.000 This open acceptance of torture and the schizophrenia of what they're doing, putting people in prison.

01:08:30.000 But then the White House says that we're going to veto laws barring torture.

01:08:35.000 And Gonzales writes memos saying we can torture people to death if we don't call it torture.

01:08:40.000 But none of them get impeached or go to prison.

01:08:43.000 And then we found out about all these secret gulags that we reported on three years ago.

01:08:47.000 I mean, this is nothing new, nothing secret about them.

01:08:50.000 We know right where they're at.

01:08:53.000 Admittedly, it was in the Washington Post in early 2002.

01:08:55.000 They had the CIA section chief bragging that, oh yeah, we pressure them and torture them in different countries, Jordan and in Egypt, and it said we even do stuff for their kids in front of them.

01:09:07.000 Never forget that in the Washington Post.

01:09:09.000 I put that in my film, The Road to Tyranny, three years ago.

01:09:12.000 Here it is.

01:09:13.000 They say they do stuff for their children in front of them.

01:09:15.000 And boy, we learned they do do that at Abu Ghraib.

01:09:17.000 We had General Janice Karpinski on a few weeks ago.

01:09:21.000 They tried to blame them with stuff, but she wasn't even allowed into these CIA-controlled wings.

01:09:27.000 And now that's what Cheney says.

01:09:28.000 He says, I don't Want the Army to be able to torture?

01:09:32.000 Okay, I'll compromise.

01:09:33.000 Just the CIA?

01:09:34.000 Well, that's who does it! 0.99

01:09:36.000 So you understand, when you're for this torture, folks, you're for these big, fat, disgusting demons cornering little children. 0.99

01:09:44.000 And I just can't believe... I mean, even the Nazis didn't brag about their torture on the radio or in the newspapers. 0.96

01:09:50.000 I mean, we're the first ever, I guess since ancient times, to openly say that we do all of this.

01:09:56.000 And, I mean, God help us.

01:09:58.000 I mean, this is just unbelievable.

01:10:00.000 But I've said enough.

01:10:02.000 He's here to talk about that, talk about the police state, all the set-ups for Marshall Law we see taking place.

01:10:08.000 He's got real conservative credentials, and he's Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:10:12.000 Thank you for coming on with us today, sir.

01:10:14.000 Hey, glad to be with you, Alex.

01:10:16.000 What do you think of the statements I just made about how we're against torture, but we're going to ban the Senate, we're going to veto the Senate saying you can't torture, and Gonzales says we can kill people, but that isn't torture, because we just changed the name, and yeah, we've got secret camps, so what?

01:10:30.000 I think that the United States government is in the hands of a psychopath. 0.57

01:10:35.000 I mean, these are insane, dangerous people. 1.00

01:10:39.000 They're a disgrace to the human race. 1.00

01:10:41.000 They're certainly a disgrace to every American. 0.97

01:10:45.000 These people have somehow got to be rounded up and held accountable. 0.98

01:10:48.000 Every one of them, as far as I'm concerned, is a war criminal.

01:10:51.000 They should be turned over to the court at the Hague.

01:10:56.000 I don't think we've seen an administration this evil in my lifetime.

01:11:01.000 I include Stalin and Hitler. 0.90

01:11:04.000 Well, they certainly have those grand designs, and I'm trying to understand this, Paul Greg Roberts.

01:11:09.000 Very strong words from you, but it's true.

01:11:10.000 Even Ron Paul, a month ago, without me prompting, said they may declare martial law, they may take our guns, we may all get arrested.

01:11:18.000 The question is, Alex, what the hell are they up to?

01:11:21.000 Let's just start with something simple.

01:11:23.000 Why do they want to torture?

01:11:26.000 It's well known, has been known forever, and all the intelligence services know it.

01:11:33.000 That when you torture people, you get bad information.

01:11:36.000 They tell you stuff just to stop hurting.

01:11:38.000 They'll make up anything.

01:11:39.000 They'll tell you what you want to hear.

01:11:41.000 They want more false intelligence.

01:11:43.000 Well, it doesn't do them any good.

01:11:47.000 So the real question is, why do they want to torture people when it doesn't produce good information?

01:11:54.000 Could it possibly be that they need a whole bunch of terrorists to implicate themselves so they can prove there actually is a terrorist threat?

01:12:07.000 So they go round up... See, another thing, Alex, they know.

01:12:10.000 Our army knows, our government knows, the CIA knows, all these people they have in detention.

01:12:18.000 The likelihood of any of them being a terrorist is extremely low.

01:12:23.000 Most of these people, Alex, were rounded up in the equivalent of KGB, Stalin-era street sweeps.

01:12:30.000 They just happened to be there when troops came along and grabbed them.

01:12:33.000 Many of them, and it's been in the news, they have lawyers, many of them were people captured In Pakistan, by Pakistani gangsters.

01:12:46.000 And sold.

01:12:47.000 And sold to the Americans as terrorists. 0.80

01:12:50.000 Well actually, what the Army admitted, and the head CIA officer in Afghanistan for two years said, is that they would get between $5,000 and $25,000 per man, woman, or child, and they would just go into little mountain villages of people that never had left their village, who didn't even know where America was on a map.

01:13:09.000 This is admitted.

01:13:10.000 And it was actual Taliban who would actually then come sell these innocent people. 0.84

01:13:15.000 And the Army's own report said 75 to 90 percent of those were completely innocent of even ever picking up arms against us, and they were just children and families that didn't have papers in order.

01:13:26.000 Yeah, and Arab businessmen who happened to... Anybody who's not protected were picked up by the warlords and the gangs and sold to the dumb shit Americans. 0.99

01:13:39.000 And so the people who are in these prisons are totally innocent people. 0.99

01:13:44.000 I bet you they haven't got five terrorists in the whole bunch.

01:13:48.000 And they know that. 1.00

01:13:50.000 But you see they can't admit that they've made any kind of mistake or done anything that's stupid. 0.96

01:13:57.000 And they can't admit that They don't really know where the terrorists are, and they haven't caught any. 0.99

01:14:02.000 But how do we get to the point of raping women and children in front of their husbands and fathers? 1.00

01:14:09.000 Well, obviously, the military is out of control. 0.98

01:14:13.000 It has no honor, no integrity.

01:14:16.000 No one is held accountable.

01:14:18.000 I mean, you know, it's worse than the Waffen-SS, if you want to know the truth. 0.63

01:14:24.000 All this stuff about support the troops, support the troops, it doesn't make any sense.

01:14:29.000 But look, there's something in the Guardian yesterday, and they call it a name that lives in infamy.

01:14:38.000 This is in the Guardian, which is the big paper in Britain.

01:14:44.000 And it's about the American barbarism in Iraq.

01:14:50.000 And of course, we're the name that lives in infamy.

01:14:55.000 So, you know... How are we going?

01:14:58.000 We are becoming the most hated nation.

01:15:02.000 Well, I had Wayne Madison, who was, as you know, a NSA analyst, and he said, working for Reagan back in the eighties, as you did, he said if they saw this type of stuff, if they saw an administration doing this in the eighties, they would have thought it's a fifth column, it's communist, they're doing this to make America look bad, they're doing this to bring America down, they're doing this to destroy all of our international connections.

01:15:29.000 And I said, well, Wayne, isn't that what's happening?

01:15:31.000 And he said, you know, yeah, it's a corporate interest that just is strip mining and insanely just in a bloody orgy of feeding. 0.97

01:15:40.000 Well, I think it's the insane neoconservatives. 0.95

01:15:46.000 They deceived the nation. 0.97

01:15:50.000 They committed high treason.

01:15:52.000 They led us into war on lies.

01:15:56.000 It's not working for them.

01:15:58.000 They have to produce the image of massive numbers of terrorists to keep enough Americans on their side who are fearful.

01:16:08.000 And, oh, the terrorists are going to get us.

01:16:10.000 See, they've got 750 terrorists at Guantanamo.

01:16:14.000 They haven't got seven terrorists at Guantanamo.

01:16:17.000 Why do you need to hold terrorists for three years without bringing charges?

01:16:22.000 If you know they're terrorists, it's very easy to bring charges.

01:16:26.000 It's actually almost four now, sir.

01:16:27.000 Yeah, well, four.

01:16:28.000 However long.

01:16:30.000 I think I saw just the other day, Alex, that we've actually brought nine people to trial.

01:16:37.000 No one's been convicted.

01:16:39.000 And no one's been convicted.

01:16:40.000 But we've brought nine.

01:16:41.000 So where are these terrorists?

01:16:45.000 If we know they're terrorists, why do we have to hold them four years?

01:16:51.000 Well, how come we don't listen when the lawyers representing their families say, you've got my husband and my father and he's a Saudi businessman and he was captured in Pakistan and sold to you guys?

01:17:05.000 And then the army interrogators even go, look, these people are totally innocent and they get told, keep them.

01:17:10.000 We're not letting them go.

01:17:11.000 That's on record.

01:17:12.000 Yeah, because we have to have, see, All of this is bogus proof.

01:17:19.000 Well, they also fired Brigadier General Rick Boggess who refused to torture.

01:17:23.000 He said, I will not do this.

01:17:25.000 I will resign.

01:17:25.000 They said, no, you don't need to resign.

01:17:27.000 You're fired.

01:17:29.000 As I mentioned, Janice Karpinski, the general, she wasn't even allowed into these areas. 1.00

01:17:33.000 She complained, so they tried to blame it on her, but they admitted that the Army wouldn't torture.

01:17:39.000 I know, and the whole question is why?

01:17:40.000 What does it achieve?

01:17:41.000 I'm not denying what you're saying, I'm just saying it's pointless.

01:17:46.000 What does it achieve?

01:17:46.000 great little kids and send them in.

01:17:48.000 I mean, it's unbelievable. - I know, and the whole question is why?

01:17:53.000 What does it achieve?

01:17:54.000 I'm not denying what you say.

01:17:57.000 I'm just saying it's pointless.

01:17:59.000 What does it achieve?

01:17:59.000 It doesn't achieve anything except the bad name for all Americans.

01:18:04.000 It creates terror, as Lennon said, and it creates cadres, it creates torture teams.

01:18:09.000 That's General Karpinski, agree with me?

01:18:11.000 She said they have created cadres of torture teams and then trained larger torture teams, sir.

01:18:15.000 Oh, you mean they're going to turn loose on us?

01:18:17.000 Yes, sir.

01:18:18.000 Yeah.

01:18:19.000 Well, that may well be what they have in mind, but they certainly aren't achieving any goal in Iraq except More casualties for Americans by making them hate us ever more. 0.57

01:18:34.000 Unbelievable.

01:18:34.000 Sir, give us some more of your views on this when we get back.

01:18:37.000 Any other subjects you'd like to discuss?

01:18:38.000 It's always very interesting to have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on with us.

01:18:42.000 I think I might have an answer.

01:18:44.000 We'll see what the doctor thinks about my answer to another reason they might do it.

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01:22:51.000 All right, I'm frothing.

01:23:01.000 Thanks.

01:23:02.000 But we should all be upset.

01:23:04.000 We should all be.

01:23:04.000 I mean, I had Ron Paul on.

01:23:06.000 He's never talked like this.

01:23:07.000 And he said, they may declare martial law, take our guns, and set up a dictatorship and start arresting us.

01:23:13.000 I mean, that's Ron Paul, folks.

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01:23:20.000 This stuff's really happening!

01:23:22.000 They really are doing this!

01:23:24.000 But right before the Gulf War, in late 2002, they got a $6 billion federal program, secret program funded, it was in UPI and the AP and a few other places, called P2OG.

01:23:36.000 And I don't know if Dr. Roberts is aware of this, But MP2OG, they said, we're going to kill people's family members, we're going to attack Arabs, we're going to stimulate an attack in the Middle East, widen it, and then we can go into Iran and Syria and other areas.

01:23:50.000 So, the plan is, you know, when they tell our troops to go in and you get shot at in a village, arrest every man down to age 11, bulldoze all their date palms, all their tangerine orchards, that is meant to generate Because do the corporations make more money if we're in Iraq a year and fix the problems and leave?

01:24:07.000 Or were there 10 years, 20 years?

01:24:09.000 Dr. Roberts, does that now make sense to you or do you disagree?

01:24:13.000 You know Alex, I don't know what to make of it all.

01:24:19.000 I do agree with you that terrible things are going on and they make so little sense that almost any explanation becomes believable.

01:24:29.000 But it's not, you know, all I can say about it is that I know that we are committing war crimes. 0.94

01:24:36.000 We're in violation of the Nuremberg standard that we established when we put the Nazis on trial. 0.51

01:24:43.000 What about federal law?

01:24:44.000 We're in violation of everything.

01:24:47.000 Yeah.

01:24:48.000 But anyway, and why are they doing it? 1.00

01:24:50.000 And why the, you know, there's something wrong with the public and that it sits there like Idiots and lets a bunch of Nazis run wild. 0.97

01:25:01.000 But let me go back to, let's talk about, let's contrast the Senate's vote to restrict detainees access to the courts with what happened just the other day in the British Parliament. 0.98

01:25:19.000 Now, in the great United States, we hold ourselves up as this great democracy and liberty and freedom and liberty and freedom.

01:25:27.000 Bush goes on about it.

01:25:29.000 The Senate yesterday endorsed a plan, I'm reading from the Washington Post today, that would overturn the landmark Supreme Court ruling last year that permitted many of the detainees held at Guantanamo Bay To challenge their detention.

01:25:53.000 So, the Senate says, gosh, here's the Supreme Court is going to enforce the Constitution and let people have rights.

01:26:01.000 We can't allow that.

01:26:04.000 And you had that Republican from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, leading the charge to overturn the Supreme Court's upholding of the U.S.

01:26:14.000 Constitution.

01:26:16.000 And then they voted yesterday 49 to 42 to pass this law to overturn the Supreme Court decision that upholds the Constitution.

01:26:30.000 So here they are, the Senate, United States Senate, voting to deep six the U.S.

01:26:37.000 Constitution.

01:26:38.000 And no doubt Bush will describe this as a great victory for freedom and democracy and liberty and blah blah blah.

01:26:45.000 Now what happened in England at the same time, on Wednesday, what happened the day before?

01:26:52.000 Bush's pimp over there, Blair, Tony Blair, somebody who is as despicable as Bush, he said, oh look, we want rights to hold the detainees for 90 days.

01:27:09.000 Now look, Bush wants to hold them indefinitely, forever.

01:27:14.000 And the British Prime Minister says, we only want to hold them for 90 days. 0.64

01:27:19.000 And the Parliament said, to hell with you, Buster, you can't do it. 0.99

01:27:25.000 Well, it's ridiculous. 0.97

01:27:26.000 How, how come England will defend the constitutional right to habeas corpus?

01:27:38.000 And the United States Senate won't.

01:27:41.000 Well, Dr. Roberts, you sound like it's painful for you to talk like this.

01:27:44.000 I mean, you've been what I'd call a mainstream conservative for a long time, defending the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

01:27:51.000 I understand that you understand... Why is it painful for me?

01:27:54.000 These people aren't conservatives.

01:27:56.000 There's nothing conservative about the Bush administration.

01:27:58.000 Exactly, but that's what I'm saying is that none of us are safe, and the heart of America is that Bill of Rights, that Constitution, habeas corpus, that's why we're America, and they're taking all that away!

01:28:12.000 So why is the Senate overturning it?

01:28:18.000 And we contrast that with Britain, and they won't even let Blair have 90 days.

01:28:23.000 They said, alright, we'll let a person be held 28 days without charges.

01:28:29.000 That's it.

01:28:31.000 In the United States, they're holding them forever without charges.

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01:32:02.000 All right, coming up in about 10 minutes or so, we'll take a few calls in there specifically for Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and any of the police state issues we're discussing.

01:32:19.000 But, you know...

01:32:22.000 It's gotten just so obvious now how out of control all of this is, and we should all be upset.

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01:32:37.000 You can also read some of the great editorials and news articles that Dr. Roberts writes at lewrockwell.com.

01:32:44.000 We post a lot of them at infowars.com and prisonplanet.com, townhall.com.

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01:32:52.000 He's written the book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

01:32:54.000 Yeah, these evil people use good people who think it's for good intentions to carry out this whole program.

01:33:00.000 And Dr. Roberts, of course, you were one of the major editors over at the Wall Street Journal, contributing editor for National Review.

01:33:12.000 What is it like for you, as a former Assistant Secretary of the U.S.

01:33:14.000 Treasury in the Reagan Administration, to see so many good conservative people I guess they were good.

01:33:21.000 I even have friends who I was on the page 100% with five, six years ago.

01:33:25.000 Now they're like, yeah, we all got to take microchips.

01:33:28.000 Yeah, because Bush and, you know, former Health and Human Secretary's person says it'll stop terrorism.

01:33:33.000 Andy Rooney says it.

01:33:34.000 I mean, this is insane body snatcher weird.

01:33:37.000 Oh, torture is good.

01:33:38.000 We've got to maybe give up some Second Amendment. 1.00

01:33:40.000 So what if Bush is for the assault weapons ban?

01:33:42.000 So what if Bush wants amnesty?

01:33:44.000 I mean, they're not even conservatives anymore.

01:33:46.000 They are literally Bush worshippers.

01:33:49.000 Brown shirts, as I know you've called them.

01:33:51.000 I want to get into more on the torture, more on the police state being set up here domestically.

01:33:57.000 But when you talk to your old conservative friends and they're still worshipping Bush, what do you say to them?

01:34:03.000 Well, the real conservatives don't.

01:34:06.000 They're not in those places anymore.

01:34:09.000 There's no conservatives on the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

01:34:12.000 Everybody that I work with there has been run off.

01:34:16.000 The same at National Review.

01:34:18.000 The people at National Review are nothing like the people that used to be at National Review.

01:34:23.000 They've all been run off.

01:34:27.000 There aren't any conservatives in those places.

01:34:31.000 They're what I call Jacobins.

01:34:33.000 Neo-Jacobins or Neo-Nazis.

01:34:36.000 But look, let me, I want to make one point here and then let's move on to the economy.

01:34:42.000 Because that affects people too.

01:34:44.000 I don't know if you, you may have already covered this Alex, but yesterday in the publication Capital Hill Blue, it reports a confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders, suggests that a new attack by terrorists on US soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George Bush As well as the sagging fortunes of the GOP.

01:35:09.000 You know, we got wiped out in the election the other day.

01:35:12.000 And restore Bush's image as a leader of the American people.

01:35:15.000 This is a closely guarded memo, and it lays out a list of scenarios, another terrorist attack on the U.S.

01:35:23.000 in order to bring the Republican Party back from the political brink.

01:35:28.000 So, that shows you the way these so-called Republicans think.

01:35:34.000 I'd like to say, too, these are nothing like the Republicans I work with.

01:35:38.000 They're nothing like the Republicans in the Bush Administration.

01:35:41.000 I don't know who these people are or where they came from.

01:35:44.000 It's almost like they came from out of space.

01:35:49.000 Doctor, are you still there?

01:35:50.000 Yeah.

01:35:51.000 Your phone cut out for a second.

01:35:52.000 It's almost like they're from where?

01:35:54.000 Out of space.

01:35:55.000 No, it is very alien to our form of government and our way of life.

01:35:59.000 But we have other memos from the U.S.

01:36:02.000 government going back where they talk about terror attacks being helpful.

01:36:05.000 We have Gary Hart of the big CFR Commission, days after 9-11, saying we need to use this disaster to get a new world order, to get people's freedoms and liberty.

01:36:15.000 Let's make lemonade out of these lemons.

01:36:20.000 I don't think it's going to work for them.

01:36:23.000 I think they're going down in flames, myself.

01:36:26.000 Well, I agree with you, sir, but let me say this.

01:36:28.000 I was not aware of this Capitol Hill Blue, which is very reputable.

01:36:31.000 We're going to be posting that right now, specifically, sir.

01:36:36.000 Fill us in.

01:36:36.000 Tell me about it.

01:36:37.000 Well, I did.

01:36:38.000 It's Capitol Hill Blue, November 10th, Doug Thompson.

01:36:47.000 If you have an email, I can send you the URL.

01:36:51.000 Oh, we can find it, sir.

01:36:52.000 What's the headline you have in front of you?

01:36:54.000 GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline.

01:37:01.000 Well, that's a smoking gun right there!

01:37:03.000 Well, it doesn't say they themselves were gonna... No, I know, but it shows them openly talking about it.

01:37:09.000 I mean, this is just... Boy, that would be helpful!

01:37:12.000 Yeah, well...

01:37:13.000 It may not work because it may simply prove that despite everything we're not safer.

01:37:20.000 So it's hard to know whether their idea would work or not.

01:37:25.000 People may simply say, well look, you took away all the rights, we went to war, you said all this and all that, and we're not safer.

01:37:32.000 Well, that is the problem.

01:37:34.000 That is the problem with carrying out another terror attack.

01:37:36.000 And that's why they're always trying to do focus groups.

01:37:38.000 They've done focus groups, engaged.

01:37:40.000 They had a big study, what, a year ago.

01:37:42.000 The White House paid for a study, I'm sure you heard about that, to see what our response would be to another terror attack.

01:37:49.000 And they found a narrow majority at that time, now they've eroded even more, would support more of their police state policies if there was.

01:37:56.000 I don't think people trust the President any longer.

01:38:00.000 Oh, I agree.

01:38:01.000 And so I don't know that they could get away with it, but it doesn't mean in desperation they wouldn't try.

01:38:09.000 But look, Alex, let's talk a bit about the economy.

01:38:12.000 Let's be specific, sir.

01:38:13.000 In desperation they wouldn't try what, Dr. Roberts?

01:38:17.000 They wouldn't try some sort of terrorist attack.

01:38:22.000 Please continue about the economy.

01:38:24.000 Look, Alex, when I was doing Russian studies, I learned that the czarist secret police used to conduct bombings so they could blame somebody they wanted to get and arrest them.

01:38:40.000 Yeah, that was the white Russian's favorite trick and then of course the commissariat learned that and they passed it on. 1.00

01:38:46.000 Yeah, so, you know, the kinds of black job operations that governments do are notorious. 1.00

01:38:59.000 Can we talk a little bit about the economy?

01:39:01.000 Because... Oh, absolutely, sir, please!

01:39:04.000 That's what's really... Yeah, that's your specialty.

01:39:06.000 Tell us about your particular position.

01:39:08.000 I mean, you were basically, in your position, Doctor, wasn't it running the Treasury?

01:39:13.000 The economic policy, yeah.

01:39:16.000 Look, are you aware that President George Bush has now borrowed more money from foreign governments and foreign banks?

01:39:29.000 Then every previous U.S.

01:39:31.000 President combined.

01:39:32.000 I was aware.

01:39:34.000 Did you know that he has run up more debt in his time in office than we did in the first 224 years by existence from 1776 until 2000?

01:39:47.000 I was not aware of that.

01:39:50.000 I knew that he had spent more than three or four presidents combined, but no, I wasn't aware of that.

01:39:56.000 The entire... he has spent... no, not just spent, but borrowed from foreigners. 0.70

01:40:02.000 Foreign borrowing.

01:40:03.000 Well, that's why a lot of experts are saying it looks like they're actually trying to bring America down.

01:40:09.000 Well, it certainly has given Asians tremendous power over us, because they hold enough of We've got treasury bonds now that just the threat to dump them would send our interest rates skyrocketing. 1.00

01:40:25.000 Well, the CFR openly laughs at America.

01:40:28.000 I've taped them off C-SPAN.

01:40:30.000 Oh, it's over for us.

01:40:31.000 It'll be the China Century. 0.99

01:40:32.000 They're the model.

01:40:33.000 That's where we're all investing. 0.99

01:40:35.000 I mean, I'm sure you've read and heard where they gleefully dance on our gravies, pieces of trash. 0.96

01:40:41.000 Well, I suspect it will be China Century. 0.99

01:40:44.000 Well, what is wrong with these neocons?

01:40:46.000 Why do they want to destroy America?

01:40:48.000 I don't know the answer.

01:40:52.000 But the real question is, why do Americans put up with them?

01:40:59.000 It's our fault.

01:41:00.000 There's only a few of them.

01:41:01.000 You and I could probably take them out.

01:41:06.000 There's not very many of them.

01:41:08.000 Why do Americans put up with them? 0.90

01:41:09.000 Why do Americans believe them?

01:41:11.000 Why do Americans vote for them? 0.88

01:41:14.000 It's amazing to me.

01:41:15.000 Doctor, it's almost like they have a spell, but I think the spell is lifting.

01:41:19.000 I mean, you were talking about that earlier.

01:41:20.000 People are starting to see through it.

01:41:22.000 Maybe, but let's get on now with the jobs.

01:41:29.000 The October job report came out a week ago, and the economy only created 46,000 private sector jobs.

01:41:40.000 Not even half of what was expected and not even a quarter of what it takes just to stay even with population.

01:41:50.000 Moreover, almost all those jobs were in construction and I would bet went to Mexicans. 1.00

01:41:58.000 So probably no jobs created for native-born Americans.

01:42:04.000 But the same month of October, The corporations laid off 81,301 people.

01:42:12.000 So the layoff rate is twice the job rate and those are jobs that probably didn't go.

01:42:20.000 But Rush Limbaugh says our economy is the best it's ever been and it's a dirty commie lie. 1.00

01:42:25.000 What's the point of bringing up that fool? 0.99

01:42:28.000 Let's just stick to facts. 0.99

01:42:30.000 Rush Limbaugh hasn't got enough sense to justify his existence. 1.00

01:42:35.000 I'm not interested in that fool. 0.99

01:42:37.000 Well, I mean, maybe if you take a hundred oxycontin a day, it gives you some type of insight. 0.99

01:42:41.000 Oh yeah, I bet.

01:42:42.000 Now, so what does it mean if the layoff rate is twice the rate of new jobs?

01:42:52.000 It's not a very promising It's not a very promising outlook.

01:42:57.000 Can I bring up another economic indice, and that's energy.

01:43:02.000 We have the oil companies own memos, starting back nine years ago, where they said we're going to buy up all the small, and I mean all, refineries, shut them down, restrict and cut back ours.

01:43:12.000 Then I watch, and then rip people off, create an artificial bottleneck, griping about Saddam over pumping, griping about Venezuela, because there's too much oil, they want to restrict it.

01:43:21.000 I don't think the oil companies, the American oil companies, don't own much oil anymore.

01:43:24.000 "No, we've built more refineries," which is a total lie, and then they questioned him more.

01:43:29.000 He said, "Well, we refitted..." Listen, I don't think the oil companies, the American oil companies don't own much oil anymore.

01:43:36.000 They're mainly just retailers of gasoline, and they're actually even going out of the refinery business.

01:43:44.000 You can't build a refinery in the United States because of all the environmental stuff.

01:43:48.000 No, I understand, but that's how this whole thing has been set up.

01:43:51.000 So my question is, where is it going with the energy prices being so high?

01:44:01.000 Or where is it going with all prices going to be so high?

01:44:04.000 Look, let me get on with this stuff.

01:44:06.000 If you want to talk about oil, let's look at it this way.

01:44:10.000 The U.S. trade, trade deficit with China alone, with just China, the American trade deficit with China, is 28% greater than our entire oil import bill.

01:44:29.000 Isn't it like $80 billion a month or something?

01:44:30.000 No, it's $160 billion last year.

01:44:38.000 I guess the total trade deficit every month was $80-some billion.

01:44:41.000 I saw that number.

01:44:42.000 The total trade deficit this year was about $700 billion.

01:44:49.000 So you can divide that by 12.

01:44:51.000 I wonder why I saw that number of a trade deficit of $80-something billion in one month.

01:44:54.000 Maybe it was some big month or something.

01:44:57.000 It could have been that much in a month.

01:45:02.000 But to look at this, see, people say, oh, what about, we have to have Energy independence.

01:45:10.000 Energy independence.

01:45:12.000 But our energy imports are small compared to our imports of advanced technology products, manufactured goods, consumer goods, automobiles.

01:45:29.000 If we need energy independence, why don't we need manufacturing independence?

01:45:33.000 Why don't we need innovation independence?

01:45:37.000 That people are so fixated on energy for, because as I just pointed out... Well, it's something they can actually feel on a day-to-day basis.

01:45:47.000 It's something they can actually see.

01:45:50.000 Well, maybe they can actually see it, but it's not a significant element in our imports.

01:46:00.000 It's not a significant element Well, Dr. Roberts, where do you see it going, then?

01:46:06.000 I mean, if the neocons stay in, or if they fall, or will we go into a depression?

01:46:12.000 I mean, where do you see this going over the next year, the next five years, the next ten years?

01:46:16.000 Give us your prognosis.

01:46:17.000 Well, Alex, here's what's happening.

01:46:19.000 Middle class jobs are being outsourced, or being filled by importing foreigners on work visas.

01:46:28.000 H-1B work visas, L-1 work visas.

01:46:32.000 The American middle class hasn't got any employment.

01:46:36.000 They're being... their jobs are all shipped out or filled with foreigners. 1.00

01:46:42.000 So this will close down... this will kill the universities.

01:46:46.000 They're being systematically targeted.

01:46:50.000 Well, it can look that way. 1.00

01:46:51.000 I think it's just short-run stupidity, myself, on the part of corporations. 0.99

01:46:57.000 They say, oh, we can get foreigners cheaper, but then they have to I wonder what happens to the American market. 0.98

01:47:04.000 If they destroy the American consumer market because they give all the good jobs abroad, who's going to buy the stuff here?

01:47:10.000 Well, Dr. Roberts, the globalist in many different official UN reports and others have said this internationalism is about global corporations being more powerful than any country, and they want us all interdependent.

01:47:21.000 They don't want a strong nation state.

01:47:23.000 They don't want a strong America.

01:47:25.000 Look, they may not, but they won't be able to do anything about China. 0.69

01:47:29.000 Or India or Russia.

01:47:30.000 They're not going to put up with a globalist.

01:47:32.000 Yeah, why is the elite giving up its main engine of power, the United States?

01:47:39.000 That's the question. 1.00

01:47:41.000 I think it's just utter stupidity. 1.00

01:47:44.000 It's short, right? 1.00

01:47:45.000 It's three month quarterly reporting.

01:47:48.000 Where everyone focuses on what's the three months results.

01:47:53.000 And oh well, we laid off another 10,000 people and hired Indians in their place. 1.00

01:47:58.000 Our profits went up and we get bigger bonuses.

01:48:01.000 And that's as good an explanation as any.

01:48:04.000 It doesn't imply some kind of... But why would there be federal programs to pay U.S.

01:48:10.000 companies to move overseas and then ensure the investment if it fails?

01:48:16.000 A lot of those things date from the Cold War, where one of our strategies to contain communism was to develop The vulnerable countries, the ones that were poor and poverty-stricken and seem to be... Yeah, prop them up.

01:48:34.000 So these things last long beyond... It's the Cold War is over, but the programs are still there.

01:48:45.000 So what is the... I mean, even the short-term prognosis, what do you think is going to happen?

01:48:50.000 Do you think the neocons will fall, or will they just keep rolling on?

01:48:53.000 You know, they're talking about going into Syria right now.

01:48:55.000 They just broke relations with them.

01:48:58.000 Yeah, I think that they're going to fall because I don't think the world's going to put up with them.

01:49:07.000 And we think we're a superpower, but we're not.

01:49:12.000 When you produce, see, this year, the budget deficit is about $500 billion.

01:49:15.000 The trade deficit is about $700 billion.

01:49:17.000 The trade deficit is about $700 billion.

01:49:20.000 That's $1.2 trillion we had to borrow, mainly from foreigners.

01:49:25.000 There are bankers.

01:49:29.000 If they say, well, we're not going to lend, we're helpless.

01:49:32.000 We're not a superpower.

01:49:37.000 Stay with us, sir, for a final segment on the other side.

01:49:40.000 We're talking to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:49:41.000 We've been covering a whole gamut of issues.

01:49:44.000 Very informative.

01:49:45.000 And coming up later, we'll have Bob Dacey in studio who went to the Free Trade Area of the Americas meeting.

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01:52:49.000 You know, I was out of the studio actually trying to kick the bachelor I was out of the studio actually trying to kick the a bachelor hound out of the studio.

01:53:10.000 He tries to climb up in my lap, but he's a huge Basset Hound.

01:53:12.000 One of my staff's dog, Baron.

01:53:17.000 Always causing problems, so I didn't find out during the break.

01:53:20.000 Can Dr. Roberts stay with us five minutes to the next hour?

01:53:23.000 Good!

01:53:23.000 Conduct that business here on air, that way we can jam in.

01:53:27.000 Ron, Jeff, Mark, Charles, and Lou.

01:53:29.000 Lou's been holding the longest, but I don't think he's for the guest.

01:53:31.000 We'll get to you with Bob Daisy.

01:53:33.000 Lou, if you want to hold even more, God bless you.

01:53:36.000 Dr. Roberts, we've just got about three minutes now and about five minutes to the next hour, but just in a nutshell before I go to these calls, and I'm going to go right to them.

01:53:43.000 We've got the new Fed Chairman coming in.

01:53:45.000 We've got him saying, I'll print even more money.

01:53:47.000 I love printing money.

01:53:48.000 Where do you see it going?

01:53:49.000 I mean, are they going to lead us into total ruin?

01:53:52.000 Yes.

01:53:53.000 Yes, they're going to lead us into total ruin.

01:53:57.000 They're destroying the tax base with the middle class. 0.71

01:54:02.000 The spending is out of control and they're entirely dependent on foreign borrowing.

01:54:10.000 They have to borrow from foreigners, which gives foreigners more and more power over our policy. 1.00

01:54:17.000 The Chinese can nix anything we want to do just by threatening to dump the holdings of treasury bonds. 1.00

01:54:25.000 So could the Japanese. 0.96

01:54:26.000 But they seem to be too tame to do anything like that.

01:54:30.000 But if they wanted to, they could bring us down.

01:54:32.000 China routinely threatens it, as you know.

01:54:34.000 Let's take a call.

01:54:35.000 Ron in New York.

01:54:36.000 You're on the air with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:54:39.000 Go ahead.

01:54:40.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:54:41.000 Doctor, it's a pleasure to hear a man who can apply logic so cogently and so precisely to the fact you have.

01:54:47.000 Good to hear from you, Ron.

01:54:49.000 Yes, yes.

01:54:49.000 I've been out of circulation for a while, but I'm back.

01:54:52.000 What's on your mind?

01:54:53.000 Okay, to address a few things relative, of course, to what the doctor has been driving at.

01:54:59.000 Today it was actually reported in New York Newsday that the police commissioner of New York City has gone into a memorandum of understanding with the Central Intelligence Agency.

01:55:10.000 We have a local It has to be emphasized, local law enforcement agency.

01:55:14.000 Well we have it in Austin, they're setting up local commissariats.

01:55:16.000 Yep, and in fact he has retained, and it seems to be a very favorite place for people who retire from the CIA to come and get a job in retirement, the NYPD.

01:55:27.000 So we definitely got strange going on here.

01:55:29.000 A few other things that have struck me very odd over the last several weeks, and they follow this way.

01:55:35.000 I begin to strongly suspect events in the world, case in point, The explosions in Jordan.

01:55:43.000 Now, if anybody knows Muslim culture or Arabic culture, they would know that attacking a wedding is an extremely taboo thing to do in that culture, if you're not aware of that.

01:55:54.000 That's a very, very taboo thing.

01:55:56.000 Oh, but Mr. Al-Syedah, Abu Absab al-Zawahiri, he took credit.

01:56:01.000 He's only been killed ten times, and injured fifty times, and murdered twenty-four times. 0.92

01:56:05.000 I mean, it's just total goons. 0.90

01:56:08.000 My point is, why would a leader looking for empathy in the Arab world do something? 0.94

01:56:12.000 Okay, we've got to let you go because we've got more callers.

01:56:14.000 Dr. Roberts?

01:56:15.000 I think he has a very good point, Alex.

01:56:17.000 He has a very good point, and I saw the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, initially said that all the Israelis in those hotels had been given prior warning and were pulled out.

01:56:29.000 And it's confirmed that Netanyahu got a warning on 7-7.

01:56:32.000 They later retracted that.

01:56:36.000 But I think the caller did have a very cogent observation.

01:56:41.000 What about local CIA offices?

01:56:43.000 They're setting those up.

01:56:46.000 Well, it's just more paraphernalia of the police state.

01:56:50.000 But that's illegal!

01:56:52.000 They haven't changed that law!

01:56:53.000 You know, a list about everything they do is illegal, Alex.

01:56:58.000 The war is illegal.

01:57:00.000 How do they get away with that?

01:57:02.000 Write the memo that says torture people, and then they say they're for torture, but then they send people who follow their orders to prison.

01:57:08.000 It looks like Americans just don't care.

01:57:10.000 It looks like they don't care. 0.98

01:57:15.000 Or they're macho, or they're, oh well, that's just ragheads. 1.00

01:57:21.000 Yeah, they don't understand.

01:57:21.000 This whole thing is directed at us, folks.

01:57:25.000 That's unbelievable.

01:57:25.000 Stay there, sir.

01:57:26.000 We'll be right back with a quick five-minute segment.

01:57:28.000 We'll jam in three more calls for you.

01:57:30.000 Callers, it's going to be quick.

01:57:31.000 Stay with us.

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01:58:07.000 That's right, folks.

01:58:08.000 Genesis.

01:58:10.000 Often imitated, never duplicated.

01:58:15.000 And we've got to move really quick.

01:58:16.000 I'm so honored to have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on with us.

01:58:19.000 Bob Dacey, who was at one of these local FTAA takeover meetings.

01:58:23.000 He's coming up in the next second.

01:58:24.000 But I want to get to three of your calls really fast.

01:58:26.000 So be quick callers.

01:58:27.000 Be fair to the other people.

01:58:29.000 Jeff and Mass, thanks for holding her on the air with Dr. Roberts.

01:58:31.000 Go ahead.

01:58:32.000 Ah, yes.

01:58:33.000 Very simple question.

01:58:34.000 Do you think that the torture in Iraq will come here to America, i.e., if we should ever have martial law and they should start arresting patriots, Conservative, constitutionalist, and anybody who's a thorn in the flesh of government.

01:58:49.000 Doctor?

01:58:49.000 Yeah, I think torture, I think it's actually already here.

01:58:54.000 You may remember the police used to beat people up all the time to get confessions, and then what was known as the Warren Court, the big liberal court, made a lot of rulings which stopped

01:59:09.000 uh... domestic uh... torture by the police of suspects i'm told that uh... that in a number of prisons with bad wardens that torture already goes on in the united states but i'm absolutely sure that if uh... an institution that was once known for its honor and integrity the united states military if it is uh... undertaking torture in iraq

01:59:38.000 If they can corrupt the military like that, it would be very easy to corrupt the police.

01:59:43.000 Thanks, Jeff.

01:59:44.000 Absolutely.

01:59:45.000 I mean, our military was always the good guys.

01:59:47.000 We didn't do that.

01:59:48.000 And now we do.

01:59:49.000 Let's talk to Mark in Louisiana, or excuse me, Las Vegas, then Charles in Louisiana.

01:59:54.000 Go ahead, Mark.

01:59:55.000 Yeah, I was in the Marine Corps, and I tell you, we were not, and we were trained to, you know, not torture.

02:00:01.000 Yeah, the doctor, he's sharp here.

02:00:05.000 I was going to bring up that GOP memo.

02:00:08.000 I guess I can just add, one of the things, one of the other scenarios, the bottom of it said, capturing Osama Bin Laden, in parenthesis it puts, or proof that he is dead.

02:00:17.000 So that'll be an interesting one.

02:00:19.000 I wonder when that's going to come up.

02:00:20.000 But the question I had, and I'd like to get the doctor's opinion on this.

02:00:26.000 I noticed a long time ago, one of the people that got caught up in the CIA's brag net when they were sending their Learjets around the world to kidnap You know, some guys to bring to their torture camps happen to be a son of a prominent and wealthy opponent of none other than Qaddafi.

02:00:46.000 It was the son of an opponent of Qaddafi.

02:00:49.000 Well, Qaddafi's our buddy now.

02:00:51.000 He's good.

02:00:52.000 We've never been at war with him.

02:00:53.000 And I wondered, number one, is Qaddafi, by chance, deep cover CIA?

02:00:56.000 And number two, it seemed to me that perhaps their policy is to go after Prominent, you know, wealthy people who have some influence.

02:01:04.000 Okay, we've got to get that question answered now.

02:01:07.000 Thanks for the call, Doctor.

02:01:10.000 No, I just couldn't answer it.

02:01:11.000 I just don't know.

02:01:12.000 Let's talk to Charles in Louisiana.

02:01:14.000 Last caller.

02:01:15.000 Charles, thanks for calling.

02:01:16.000 What's on your mind?

02:01:16.000 Thanks for taking my call, Mr. Jones.

02:01:18.000 Louisiana, it's been took over.

02:01:21.000 The economy's down.

02:01:23.000 They're cutting the workers and they're giving more money away.

02:01:26.000 New Orleans has got all Mexican workers.

02:01:29.000 They're charging $300 a month for a tent in City Park.

02:01:35.000 $300 a month just to put a tent.

02:01:37.000 They don't want the people back in New Orleans.

02:01:39.000 You watch and see, when the truth comes out, how easy it is to take over a state.

02:01:46.000 It's unbelievable what's happening.

02:01:47.000 Well, we know that was engineered, and Dr. Roberts has talked about that here on the show.

02:01:52.000 Charles, call back again later next week.

02:01:55.000 I want to get a report from you from Louisiana.

02:01:57.000 You did a great job during the floods, and Godspeed, my friend.

02:02:00.000 I hope you're doing well.

02:02:01.000 We're now closing out here, Dr. Roberts.

02:02:04.000 Would you like to comment on what did happen in New Orleans?

02:02:08.000 Well, it was, you know, just another criminal act.

02:02:12.000 I do think it happened on purpose.

02:02:16.000 And what their goal is, I couldn't say for sure.

02:02:20.000 Well, we know they'll get to hand out a couple hundred billion dollars in contracts to their buddies.

02:02:24.000 No, they're handing them out to Mexicans.

02:02:27.000 Why are they cutting the American workforce out?

02:02:29.000 That's the real question.

02:02:30.000 Why do they have all these Mexican construction firms in New Orleans? 0.93

02:02:34.000 I did see that!

02:02:36.000 Yeah, well, what's going on?

02:02:37.000 I mean, why?

02:02:38.000 You know, normally, Congress wouldn't permit it.

02:02:42.000 I hear you.

02:02:43.000 Dr. Roberts, thanks for coming on.

02:02:45.000 Take care.

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02:05:46.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

02:05:53.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

02:05:58.000 We've had an absolutely powerhouse, grand slam, out-of-the-park broadcast in the last 2 hours and 8 minutes, 21 seconds.

02:06:10.000 In the first hour, we had a physicist, a doctor, a professor, Stephen E. Jones from Brigham Young University, a senior physicist there, just the impossibility of the official story, there had to be bombs in there, and he believes thermite bombs as well.

02:06:28.000 Because of all the evidence.

02:06:30.000 And then we have Paul Craig Robertson just saying it's total police state, total Nazism, total takeover.

02:06:35.000 One of the most conservative people.

02:06:37.000 I mean, we're talking Wall Street Journal editor, Deputy at Treasury for Ronald Reagan.

02:06:45.000 I mean, this is real.

02:06:46.000 This is scary.

02:06:47.000 And then there's my good buddy Bob Dacey, who's written for InfoWars.com.

02:06:51.000 He also has started writing for the New American Magazine.

02:06:56.000 And he went up to an FTA meeting with some of the top people from the UN and others there, pushing this agenda for the free trade area of the Americas that was dealt a very serious blow, a crippling blow, but not a death-dealing blow, unfortunately, by Hugo Chavez and others.

02:07:13.000 But it's in deep trouble.

02:07:14.000 Because people know it's bad and people are revolting worldwide.

02:07:17.000 This is to create the American Union to merge in with the EU.

02:07:21.000 That's why they have to get rid of the middle class. 1.00

02:07:23.000 That's the official global New Old Order plan that Dr. Roberts didn't fully understand but is beginning to understand.

02:07:29.000 Thank you very much for having us.

02:07:30.000 America but that's been the plan all along it just to put all the wealth of the hands of international corporations so Bob Dacey went up to a major university and basically confronted these people one of the reporters there and Bob good to have you in studio with us thanks for coming in yeah you know what I'm going to start over because I didn't have your microphone up.

02:07:53.000 This is a brand new studio.

02:07:54.000 I'm just now getting used to this.

02:07:55.000 Bob, you can start over.

02:07:56.000 All right.

02:07:56.000 Well, thank you very much for having me on, Alex.

02:07:58.000 I appreciate the opportunity to be here this evening.

02:08:00.000 You bet, my friend.

02:08:02.000 Tell us, for those that don't know, what the FTAA is, how it ties into AGENDA 21, this whole global straitjacket.

02:08:08.000 The Free Trade Area of the Americas is nothing but the American or Western Hemisphere version of the European Union.

02:08:13.000 battle, then the press gets a chance to ask questions.

02:08:16.000 And this will be Bob Dacey up at Baylor confronting this guy.

02:08:19.000 The free trade area of the Americas is nothing but the American or Western Hemisphere version of the European Union.

02:08:26.000 It's just a step toward the eventual merger of the entire planet under one global government.

02:08:31.000 And that's all the FTAA is about.

02:08:33.000 It has nothing to do with free trade.

02:08:36.000 They stick that name on it.

02:08:37.000 It's gigantic government bureaucratic regulations beyond the control of the American taxpayers.

02:08:43.000 Beyond the Control of the American Citizenry has nothing to do with free trade.

02:08:47.000 But that's what they call it.

02:08:48.000 These big bankers and big corporations just get our governments to sign treaties with private boards they create.

02:08:55.000 And then we vest government power to them.

02:08:57.000 We cede it to them.

02:08:58.000 It's totally illegitimate.

02:09:00.000 It's piracy.

02:09:01.000 Absolutely.

02:09:02.000 Completely piracy.

02:09:03.000 And that's why Will Gregg, the New American, sent me up there last month to Baylor.

02:09:09.000 He wanted somebody that was local Texan to cover it, and that's what I did.

02:09:15.000 We're going to play this clip.

02:09:16.000 Who is this individual?

02:09:19.000 Tell us who some of the key players were, what this particular meeting signified, the name of it, what happened, and then I want to play this clip.

02:09:25.000 This is the Free Trade in the Americas Conference, which was held at Baylor last month.

02:09:30.000 And the key players, the two key players, the first one, the keynote speaker there was Dr. Supachai Panichpakdi.

02:09:38.000 Who is from Thailand and he is the recent head of the World Trade Organization and he is the current head of the United Nations Trade and Development Council, UNCTAD.

02:09:48.000 So this guy is a big heavy hitter in the New World Order and what you're about to play is a second question I threw at him at a press conference they had.

02:09:58.000 See they were kind of embarrassed.

02:10:00.000 Nobody showed up for the press conference except me and a reporter from the Houston Chronicle.

02:10:06.000 So I had him all to myself basically.

02:10:08.000 and the first question I asked him he kind of hemmed and hawed about it and then I came at him again and he he answered the question but then he took off now specifically for those who don't know why were they here I I mean, you discussed the meeting, I've watched some of the speeches they gave.

02:10:30.000 The good news is, they admit to what we're seeing here from the outside, that globally, these programs are stalling, people are resisting, nation-states are resisting, even big businessmen, they're having trouble getting them to go along.

02:10:44.000 There's a true rebellion taking place, and here at this meeting, Basically, right at the same time that their whole program is getting into deep trouble down in Latin America.

02:10:56.000 Yeah, but one of the other heavy hitters at the conference was Richard Fisher, and this guy has got globalist credentials up one side and down the other.

02:11:04.000 Worked with Henry Kissinger, used to help run OPIC, that organization you were talking about in the previous segment that sends the jobs out and fires Americans and guarantees loans for getting jobs to the other side of the world you know by the Americans and then use their tax money to back up the loans right and dr. Fisher or mr. Richard Fisher who's now the current president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas This guy's a big, big heavy hitter.

02:11:32.000 He was saying, listen man, we're going to get this FDAA jump started.

02:11:35.000 We have to do it because it's a moral imperative.

02:11:38.000 I mean, he was saying it was a national security imperative that we get the FDAA jump started and we need the political will to do it had to come from the United States.

02:11:49.000 We've got to give freedom to all these people and deindustrialize America. 0.58

02:11:53.000 It's our moral imperative to enslave everyone.

02:11:56.000 That is basically what the man said.

02:11:57.000 Alright, you're talking to the head of the WTO, ladies and gentlemen, and also another, he also is a big chieftain at the United Nations, and here is Bob Dacey.

02:12:08.000 We're talking two or three, four weeks now.

02:12:10.000 ago that was the early in early in october it was so we're talking to a three four weeks now time is really flying by but I guess the the the new american article just came out yeah the new american is in the november the fourteenth issue the new american And you can actually access that article by going online, thenewamerican.com, scroll down and click on the article, Texas, the Keystone State of the FTAA.

02:12:36.000 And we also have a link to it up on infowars.com right now there in the guest section with our guest writer Bob Dacey.

02:12:43.000 Let's go ahead and play this clip where Bob is confronting the head of the WTO.

02:12:47.000 Go ahead and roll it.

02:12:52.000 The concern of a lot of Americans is the national sovereignty of the United States, vis-a-vis organizations like the FDAA.

02:13:00.000 And according to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, only the United States Congress has the power to regulate foreign trade.

02:13:09.000 Do you consider the United States Constitution to be an impediment to your FDAA?

02:13:14.000 Well, I don't see that, and up till now, there has been, whoever is in the administration in the United States, we always recognize that the U.S.

02:13:25.000 has always taken up the leadership role in conducting negotiations that always produce a momentum for the trade bicycle to always move ahead, up till now.

02:13:38.000 But what I just said is that there is a rising concern around the world that, as one of our colleagues just said, That the sense of leadership that was needed for this trade round to move ahead wasn't always there.

02:13:52.000 It wasn't always there.

02:13:53.000 I wouldn't say that it wasn't there at all, but not always there.

02:13:56.000 Because sometimes it's been diverted into some of the different regional and bilateral negotiations.

02:14:04.000 It's not always there.

02:14:07.000 The point is, is that, notice how he sidestepped the question.

02:14:09.000 Hey, this violates our Constitution, giving up sovereignty to you, and he lists the area of the Constitution.

02:14:14.000 His answer is, well, your government's violating it.

02:14:16.000 Your government, by the way, is leading this.

02:14:18.000 Hey, this is your government's whole vehicle.

02:14:21.000 That is, the globalists that control our nation have our nation pushing it.

02:14:25.000 So he really admits what they're doing, and admits it's unconstitutional, but just says, hey, your government is the engine.

02:14:32.000 Yeah, he says the Constitution is not in the way basically because we've already ceded that authority to the WTO because any dispute resolutions are supposed to go to them and this FTAA and therefore we've already blown off our responsibility to have the Congress regulate foreign trade.

02:14:48.000 That's what he's saying.

02:14:49.000 Yes, we have a link right now on InfoWars.com to their speeches and the entire press conference with the Houston Chronicle and Bob Dacey there asking them questions.

02:15:00.000 But let's specifically get into your article and the key points, the key things people should know about the FTAA.

02:15:07.000 I mean, the headline is, Texas Keystone State to the FTAA.

02:15:11.000 Folks, I've told you, that's why for seven years I've had, deep behind enemy lines, the Central Texas Command Center.

02:15:17.000 I guess on KGFK I had a similar line or so for ten years or longer.

02:15:21.000 I mean, we really are the model.

02:15:23.000 I mean, they're putting in the transponders, the toll roads.

02:15:25.000 They're militarizing the police, the borders wide open.

02:15:28.000 They're putting up cameras in the neighborhoods and on the roads.

02:15:31.000 They're setting up little CIA liaisons with our cities.

02:15:35.000 I mean, Texas is like Massachusetts or California.

02:15:39.000 We are on the very front line of this, under heavy bombardment.

02:15:44.000 And it's happening here.

02:15:46.000 And they admitted at this conference, did they not, Bob, that Texas is the jewel in their crown, just geographically, because of this 15-lane, giant, super-corridor, which will open the borders completely.

02:15:58.000 They're going to hand out transponders to people that drive in and out of the U.S.

02:16:01.000 and legalize everyone, Bob.

02:16:02.000 And that is the central point that most people miss about the Trans-Texas Corridor here in Texas.

02:16:08.000 They say, well, they're double tax tolling us, and it's going to cost too much money, and these roads don't go anywhere into the cities, and everybody's grapping about it, and that's great.

02:16:18.000 But what they don't seem to understand is why they would build this thing.

02:16:21.000 Dr. Subhachai himself, at his keynote speech at the beginning of the conference, said it himself.

02:16:26.000 It's a giant cancer tentacle coming up from Mexico. 1.00

02:16:29.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

02:16:30.000 Yes, you need the infrastructure to link the areas in order to make them work.

02:16:34.000 You need the infrastructure.

02:16:36.000 He mentioned a project in Southeast Asia.

02:16:38.000 He says if you link them all up, it will make it work.

02:16:41.000 So the real reason they're trying to build the Trans-Texas Corridor is to build the infrastructure to link the United States with Mexico and Canada.

02:16:51.000 I mean, in 2002, when they put it up on the Texas Department of Transportation website, I mean, they had a map.

02:16:57.000 They had two maps showing big arrows.

02:17:00.000 And they've now taken that down.

02:17:01.000 I didn't say that.

02:17:02.000 Did you get it?

02:17:03.000 I've got it.

02:17:04.000 Oh, you've got it right there?

02:17:04.000 I've got it.

02:17:05.000 May I please have it?

02:17:05.000 I've got it right here.

02:17:06.000 I'm going to scan that in for our listeners.

02:17:08.000 I'm going to get that scanned in, Bob.

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02:21:55.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

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02:22:04.000 There's so much to cover here.

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02:22:07.000 Bob wants to get into who this Chewbacca guy is, well-known commie.

02:22:13.000 Of course, the big bankers control him.

02:22:14.000 Got to consolidate the wealth.

02:22:15.000 That's who funds it all.

02:22:16.000 But I want to get into these trans-Texas corridors.

02:22:18.000 Folks, they already have these in Oklahoma up into Kansas and into Missouri.

02:22:23.000 You'll drive 50 miles before you can exit.

02:22:25.000 You're not allowed off.

02:22:26.000 The McDonald's and the gas stations are built in the medians.

02:22:29.000 And you see all these beautiful ghost towns with Victorian houses.

02:22:32.000 Because, see, these are going to be international.

02:22:34.000 Oh, to stop the illegal aliens, these roads are really international. 1.00

02:22:38.000 But so they're police and checkpoints and customs and they're going to search you when you get on and off of these.

02:22:44.000 You're going to have transponders.

02:22:45.000 This is the official admission.

02:22:48.000 They're going to have 4,000 miles of Trans-Texas Corridor.

02:22:52.000 Another 2,000 in the cities.

02:22:53.000 A total of 6,000.

02:22:55.000 And guess what?

02:22:57.000 You ain't exiting.

02:22:58.000 You ain't getting off.

02:23:00.000 And that's the official plan.

02:23:01.000 This isn't even a toll road.

02:23:02.000 They're just going to make you pay to be a slave, Bob. 0.93

02:23:04.000 Well, the toll road, part of the reason for the toll roads is to help fund the thing.

02:23:08.000 That's why they're trying to turn existing free roads into toll roads so that they can help fund this boondoggle. 0.99

02:23:14.000 It's absolutely obscene.

02:23:16.000 It's not going to alleviate any traffic problems because it doesn't go into any of the cities.

02:23:22.000 Hello?

02:23:23.000 You know?

02:23:24.000 It's all for the infrastructure of the free trade area of the American economy.

02:23:28.000 I know people that work up there.

02:23:30.000 They're now building this thing right outside Austin, and there's these giant roads you'll be out in the country, and it's admittedly, in their own documents, arterials.

02:23:37.000 It is arteries.

02:23:38.000 It is veins for this international infrastructure.

02:23:41.000 Bob, explain to people.

02:23:42.000 This is not our opinion.

02:23:43.000 This is publicly admitted.

02:23:45.000 Oh yeah, I mean, they admitted it.

02:23:46.000 Again, this website that the Texas Department of Transportation put up and then they yanked down.

02:23:51.000 I mean, there were numerous references to Mexico.

02:23:54.000 As a matter of fact, the bill that created it, House Bill 3588, a couple of years ago, passed through the Texas Legislature and nobody seemed to notice.

02:24:01.000 It's full of references to Linking Up with Mexico.

02:24:04.000 Well, if you look at what Homeland Security says, they go, oh, we're going to end illegal aliens because the problem, because we're just going to give everybody a transponder on their car.

02:24:13.000 We're already hearing this now with our passports or people's visas.

02:24:16.000 And so anyone who wants to come is going to be allowed in because it's going to be international.

02:24:21.000 Instantly!

02:24:22.000 We are only a year or two away, and I'm right in the middle of it!

02:24:26.000 Yeah, and in a very short time, we're all supposed to be thinking about North America, Alex.

02:24:32.000 We're supposed to be North Americans now, don't we?

02:24:35.000 That's taught in all these public schools!

02:24:36.000 That's what that guy, what's his name from the CFR, that booklet he published a couple of months ago, what's his name?

02:24:43.000 I can't remember it.

02:24:44.000 But just tell us what they were saying at this meeting overall.

02:24:47.000 What was the main message?

02:24:47.000 Here's the deal.

02:24:48.000 Dr. Supachai Panjpaki is a communist, okay?

02:24:51.000 During his opening speech at the Hoity Toity dinner that they had Thursday night, he, in passing, mentioned that he had a meeting with a communist Chinese trade minister, Bo Xilai.

02:25:05.000 And he said that, just in passing, he said, yes, he is the son of one of the six heroes of the Chinese Revolution, a close associate of Mao Zedong.

02:25:19.000 That's like saying he's a close associate of Adolf Hitler.

02:25:22.000 Yeah, and he just proudly states he calls one of Mao's cohorts a hero.

02:25:27.000 Now, so the guy's a communist, and all these intellectuals at Baylor, it just goes right over their head.

02:25:34.000 They've been conditioned that trade...

02:25:35.000 Ooh, communism, sexy, all those 60 million dead.

02:25:39.000 Ooh, ooh. 0.64

02:25:40.000 They've been conditioned that trade is everything.

02:25:43.000 They kept repeating, trade is a bicycle.

02:25:45.000 You must pedal the bicycle.

02:25:47.000 Trade is a bicycle.

02:25:48.000 Trade is important.

02:25:48.000 But this isn't trade where it's selectively consolidating and raping us.

02:25:52.000 Well, no, it's not trade, but they call it trade.

02:25:54.000 And since this guy's a WTO former head, he's a heavy hitter.

02:26:00.000 He's no slouch.

02:26:01.000 What's his current position at UN?

02:26:04.000 He's the Director of the United Nations Council for Trade and Development, UNCTAD.

02:26:09.000 And of course we have UNIDEAR that says we must all turn in our guns.

02:26:12.000 Yes, they've got more alphabet super organizations than you can shake a stick at.

02:26:17.000 I wanted to tell your listeners something.

02:26:19.000 When I asked that question you played a while ago, after I asked that question, the entire entourage booked out of that room.

02:26:26.000 They didn't stop to collect $200, they just took off.

02:26:31.000 I think Dr. Supichai was faced with one reporter and question after question and he wasn't going to put up with it.

02:26:38.000 Because they were all hospital questions.

02:26:39.000 I just, they just took off out of the room.

02:26:41.000 What was the question by the Houston Chronicle?

02:26:43.000 Just don't we worship you leader?

02:26:45.000 Leader!

02:26:46.000 The Chronicle question, she was asking something about CAFTA and whether it was going to help them or not.

02:26:51.000 And, uh, you know, will it or won't it, the thing passed.

02:26:54.000 What I'm worried about in all this is people like Richard Fisher.

02:26:58.000 You know, this guy, big time globalist, international banker.

02:27:02.000 He's, you know, CFR.

02:27:04.000 $3,000 suit, looks good, looks like a movie star.

02:27:06.000 Trilateral Commission, you know, Henry Kissinger, the whole nine yards.

02:27:09.000 You gotta watch out for those guys.

02:27:11.000 They'll try to make it happen.

02:27:13.000 Well, he said they're going to do that.

02:27:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:27:14.000 Well, tell us more about it.

02:27:15.000 Let's go through some of the notes in your big article you got published there in the, uh, in the New American.

02:27:21.000 That's great, Bob.

02:27:22.000 Hey, how about it?

02:27:22.000 You took my challenge.

02:27:23.000 How many da- It was like eight years ago to get involved or something?

02:27:26.000 Well, I've been involved a long time, man.

02:27:28.000 Well, I know that, but you- You're the guy that woke me up, though.

02:27:30.000 I gotta admit that.

02:27:32.000 I haven't fallen asleep since.

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02:31:02.000 Alright, a little... Episode 3, Nerddom, ladies and gentlemen.

02:31:07.000 Now, but, you wanna... Folks, I don't get off on, you know, having a Ferrari.

02:31:11.000 And I don't have a Ferrari, so you know what I'm saying?

02:31:13.000 He said he had a Ferrari.

02:31:14.000 He said he works for a circus.

02:31:15.000 No, I don't.

02:31:16.000 I mean, I can joke around about something and it goes out there.

02:31:20.000 I don't care about possessions, things.

02:31:22.000 I could care less.

02:31:23.000 What I love is that so many dynamic, thoughtful, intelligent people have gotten involved because I've challenged them to and because they love freedom.

02:31:30.000 And just like people who woke me up.

02:31:34.000 Gary Allen back in the 70s writing None Dare Call a Conspiracy.

02:31:37.000 My dad.

02:31:38.000 That's our job.

02:31:39.000 You don't know who it is you're going to talk to who's going to end up really doing big things in this fight.

02:31:44.000 And Bob, you've woken up tens of thousands of people now.

02:31:47.000 Well, you know, I've been on the air as the host of The Simple Truth, the local cable TV access show for over six years now.

02:31:53.000 We're in our seventh season.

02:31:54.000 It's very popular.

02:31:55.000 Yeah, apparently it is.

02:31:57.000 I try my best with no resources, and of course we just do it out of obligation.

02:32:02.000 Jeff Cantoff and Kelly Taylor are my producers, real good friends of mine, and I couldn't do it without them.

02:32:09.000 Well, and then you write articles for InfoWars.com, and you type Michael McCall's name, the Congressman, into Google, and, you know, number one pops up your article about him.

02:32:16.000 I mean, you know, that just shows, bottom line folks, we're having an effect, we're involved, and I want you to be leaders out there that are listening.

02:32:23.000 I want you to get involved.

02:32:24.000 There's no question that we are having victories.

02:32:27.000 The FTAA is having big, big problems.

02:32:31.000 If you want to learn about the FTAA and understand what it's about, I encourage your listeners to go to www.stoptheftaa.org.

02:32:41.000 That's a vast information pool about the real reason for the whole thing.

02:32:46.000 And by the way, this whole global government funded by these big corporations, they're transferring our government powers into international bodies and then giving themselves governmental power.

02:32:58.000 And one of their blueprints is the Agenda 21 that Gorbachev and all of them push.

02:33:03.000 And they go in under other names and get your local cities to pass laws, to get into regional boards, regional governance.

02:33:10.000 Talk a little bit about that, Bob.

02:33:12.000 Well, you know, the bottom line is they have to lie about everything to get it passed.

02:33:16.000 I mean, let's face it, we're talking about the Texas Department of Transportation back in 2003 put this on their website to train their employees how to convince Texans that we need tolls.

02:33:28.000 And they had something called Toll Road Finance 101 and they're saying, listen, we need to limit the alternatives to toll roads because free alternatives mean lower revenues, And if you avoid frontage roads in this procedure and you use discontinuous frontage roads, of course, you're going to force people onto the toll roads.

02:33:47.000 I mean, they had this on their website in 2003 as to how to promote causing you to pay money for roads you already paid for.

02:33:56.000 But then they claim they didn't have any money, even though we're using more oil and more tax than ever.

02:34:00.000 But then a good tax dot employee leaked stuff that said classified, not for distribution, earlier this year, that said we've got more money than ever.

02:34:07.000 We don't need this.

02:34:08.000 And guess who owns the big toll road that is being seeded?

02:34:12.000 Spain!

02:34:13.000 It's a big Spanish company, a lot of it held by the King of Spain.

02:34:16.000 The King of Spain is actually... It never ends, Bob!

02:34:20.000 Yeah, what they're doing in Texas is they're trying to fake the citizens of Texas into paying for their own demise.

02:34:28.000 That's it.

02:34:28.000 Right there.

02:34:29.000 And they're not even going to use Texans to build it.

02:34:31.000 Well, actually they are.

02:34:32.000 Well, it's like what we have in New Orleans.

02:34:36.000 Brown and Root, KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, openly has.

02:34:40.000 Bush said, we're going to hire all Americans in Louisiana. 0.56

02:34:43.000 It's baloney.

02:34:44.000 Openly, it's illegal aliens. 0.98

02:34:46.000 And then they even rip them off and don't pay them.

02:34:48.000 It's in the news.

02:34:49.000 Bob, this has reached total criminality.

02:34:51.000 It's completely insane, but you gotta, again, I know you understand that they have to lie to get all this done.

02:34:56.000 At this conference I went to, they had a Canadian economist named Michael Hart, and he admitted that in order to get NAFTA passed, they had to lie to the Congress.

02:35:04.000 They had to say it was going to increase our exports when they knew all along that it was going to do the opposite.

02:35:10.000 I mean, they just flat admitted at the conference that they lied to get it done.

02:35:13.000 We lied to them to get it.

02:35:14.000 It is good, and I tell you about how great Lenin was.

02:35:17.000 Now let's move on to our banker lord.

02:35:19.000 And this sovereignty notion, when I used that word sovereignty at the press conference...

02:35:24.000 Was it like vampires in holy water?

02:35:25.000 Well, let me tell you something.

02:35:26.000 There was a lady, another Canadian economist named Sylvia Ostry, sitting there behind Dr. Superchart. 0.97

02:35:33.000 And when I said that word, I was watching her.

02:35:35.000 She's about 10 feet away from me.

02:35:37.000 She leaned over to the CFR guy, Gary Huffbauer, next to her.

02:35:42.000 And I saw her and I heard what she said.

02:35:45.000 She said, Sovereignty!

02:35:48.000 I knew it!

02:35:49.000 I'm not kidding.

02:35:49.000 She said that.

02:35:50.000 pieces of filth. 0.98

02:35:51.000 I'm not kidding. 0.97

02:35:52.000 She said that.

02:35:53.000 Sovereign. 1.00

02:35:54.000 This scum rabble. 1.00

02:35:55.000 She will have their arms. 0.97

02:35:57.000 I mean, I think that the question I asked about actually questioning the wisdom of the FDAA Like, because there was no discussion at the whole conference about, is this a good idea or not?

02:36:10.000 Nothing at all.

02:36:11.000 And when you mention sovereignty, they just, what?

02:36:15.000 Well, here's the incredible thing.

02:36:16.000 Openly, back ten years ago when they planned it, we're going to have this giant 15 lanes on both sides going all the way up into Canada from Guatemala.

02:36:24.000 Openly bringing in all the illegal aliens. 1.00

02:36:26.000 They'll be totally legalized.

02:36:27.000 This is the official plan.

02:36:28.000 It's going to be a total nightmare.

02:36:31.000 Devastating.

02:36:32.000 They're going to wall off the roads where you can't get to the small towns.

02:36:34.000 That's the official plan.

02:36:37.000 We've seen where they've built these already.

02:36:39.000 And there's cops out there listening right now who I guess are going to enjoy doing this to their children.

02:36:45.000 There's bureaucrats listening who are still going to serve this system. 1.00

02:36:48.000 This is war, folks.

02:36:49.000 This is an actual enemy world government beachhead.

02:36:52.000 Roads, all roads lead to Rome, folks.

02:36:55.000 Roads are everything in a civilization, in a society.

02:36:58.000 Rails, roads.

02:36:59.000 This controls humans.

02:37:01.000 And it goes back to those UN maps that Dr. Cobb put together.

02:37:04.000 You lay those maps together, 90 plus percent of the country off human access?

02:37:08.000 Tell them about that.

02:37:09.000 I mean, this is a hell system!

02:37:11.000 Yeah, that was Agenda 21 is what you're talking about.

02:37:13.000 Yes.

02:37:13.000 I mean, that was one of the first things I actually woke up to, Alex, when I was first listening to you.

02:37:18.000 Remember, I made that film, America Destroyed by Design. 0.94

02:37:20.000 Well, I thought you were nuts, you know.

02:37:22.000 People claim that I cover up Agenda 21 when I was talking about it a decade ago?

02:37:26.000 Absolutely not.

02:37:27.000 The subset of Agenda 21 that you were talking about when I first ran into you was this business about the United Nations and the National Parks and their controlling them and making these concentric rings around them that you couldn't get into. 0.98

02:37:40.000 And I was thinking, you're like, you know, off your cookies, you were totally nuts.

02:37:44.000 And now I found out that you were telling the truth because I think it was the state of Kentucky.

02:37:49.000 Kentucky said that they documented the whole thing and I'm going, oh no, this nut Alex Jones is telling the truth.

02:37:54.000 And that was all a part of this Agenda 21 about driving the humans into the cities and keeping the disgusting humans off the land so that the moose in Canada can visit his cousin in Colorado without having to see one.

02:38:07.000 You know, that's what it's all about.

02:38:08.000 And you were right.

02:38:09.000 You were absolutely right.

02:38:10.000 And from then, I just started to be a vacuum cleaner of research, and I haven't stopped.

02:38:17.000 Well, you've done a great job.

02:38:18.000 Your TV show is excellent, Bob.

02:38:20.000 In fact, we ought to talk about some time taking all your TV shows and condensing them down to a two-hour video and putting that out.

02:38:26.000 That would be impossible.

02:38:28.000 Six years of TV into two hours.

02:38:30.000 Well, no, you just pick some of your best things and put them out.

02:38:32.000 Okay, I want to take some calls.

02:38:37.000 Lou's been holding so long, I'm going to go to him, then we're going to go back in the news, then we'll go to Art and Barbara and Jeff, and that'll be it for calls today, because you've got a lot more you want to talk about with this FTAA.

02:38:47.000 But to be specific, I am last weekend out deer hunting at a family reunion.

02:38:54.000 Well, actually at the time, I was fishing in one of those little cattle ponds, stock ponds.

02:39:01.000 And it was my dad, my children, my wife, my uncle's wife were out there fishing.

02:39:06.000 To make a long story short, we got AP Network News on, and they announced FTA is dead for at least five years before.

02:39:13.000 Bush very angry.

02:39:14.000 This is an incredible setback to the regional government for the Pan-American Union.

02:39:19.000 I'm going, Mike, I'm like, yeah, all right!

02:39:21.000 And we're doing high-fives later.

02:39:22.000 It's, oh, no problem.

02:39:24.000 They'll fix it.

02:39:24.000 They'll turn it around.

02:39:25.000 It'll be back within a year.

02:39:26.000 So what is the truth?

02:39:27.000 I went and researched it.

02:39:28.000 These things are so complex, these payoffs, these corporations, and all these deals, and who gets what in these 15,000-page bills.

02:39:35.000 I'm not kidding.

02:39:36.000 That it screwed up for many years now, but from the meeting you were at, we're still in the fight, because they're still going ahead with the building blocks of it, of Agenda 21 and CAFTA.

02:39:47.000 But it's like the EU getting rejected.

02:39:49.000 Its final expansion to total dictatorship got rejected a few months ago.

02:39:54.000 There are good things happening.

02:39:55.000 Did they seem to be panicked, or were they still just arrogant and aplomb about it?

02:40:00.000 No, they were in a state of disarray.

02:40:04.000 It was universal throughout the conference.

02:40:07.000 They were all griping about it.

02:40:10.000 Except Mr. Fisher, Richard Fisher.

02:40:13.000 He was very confident that they needed to manufacture the political will within the United States.

02:40:19.000 Well, I mean, six months ago, seven months ago, they put out a report calling for this Pan-American Union and this merger with police and military with Canada and Mexico.

02:40:26.000 Congress, and you know how the CFR is, they have a tendency to pull it out at the last minute.

02:40:32.000 Well, I mean, six months ago, seven months ago, they put out a report calling for this Pan-American Union and this merger with police and military with Canada and Mexico.

02:40:39.000 The Canadian papers were saying, end of sovereignty, world government.

02:40:43.000 But within months, they'd adopted it and Congress had adopted it.

02:40:47.000 It's like whatever they say happens.

02:40:49.000 Yeah, it's, you know, you'll have 90% of Congressmen's constituents calling up saying, don't do this, and then all of a sudden they'll flip at the last minute.

02:40:57.000 You know, it's very serious.

02:41:02.000 We still have to work very hard to stop the FTAA.

02:41:05.000 And again, I mentioned www.stoptheftaa.org.

02:41:10.000 You'll learn more about the FDA than you could possibly imagine.

02:41:13.000 Well, really, all they've got going for them is that they've got the money and the power and they're paying people off.

02:41:19.000 But we really do have the majority of the population.

02:41:22.000 All they've got now is this remnants of an illusion that we're the minority and they're the majority.

02:41:28.000 They are a tiny minority!

02:41:30.000 Yeah, and they also, at this conference, the actual input of the business community was only like a small player in their discussions.

02:41:39.000 It's like, oh, well, part of the problem is that these businessmen are off doing other things, and they're not all that interested.

02:41:45.000 It's like, I always thought that free trade was all businessmen.

02:41:49.000 You on one side, me on the other, we get together, and we swap beers and drinks.

02:41:54.000 It's economic war using third world slave populations to de-industrialize the United States and destroy the middle class. 1.00

02:42:00.000 Yeah, and Mr. Fisher, he was very adamant that it's a wonderful thing that the United States runs these giant trade deficits.

02:42:07.000 He said that it was our duty to do it.

02:42:10.000 It was our obligation to impoverish ourselves with debt.

02:42:13.000 I even heard him say that on NPR.

02:42:15.000 Soon Americans will have a low standard.

02:42:18.000 This is what we deserve.

02:42:19.000 He said that we are the consumer of last resort to the world.

02:42:23.000 And he also said that if we didn't run these deficits, look what would happen to Germany.

02:42:28.000 Well I know this.

02:42:31.000 And this is important, wealth is not destroyed, it's merely transferred.

02:42:34.000 All that wealth, 4% of the population, that was the U.S.

02:42:37.000 and the world.

02:42:38.000 We had over half the wealth, not anymore.

02:42:40.000 It's all going to these greedy control freaks. 0.99

02:42:42.000 Let's take calls.

02:42:43.000 Let's talk to Lou in California.

02:42:45.000 Go ahead Lou.

02:42:47.000 Yeah, hi Alex and Bob, it's nice to talk to you both today.

02:42:50.000 Yes sir, welcome.

02:42:51.000 I would love to get both of your thoughts on the merits of an idea I had as to what we can do to make a positive difference What would you think about, you know, city-by-city, county-by-county petitions and referendums whereby we would reassert our United States and our state constitution?

02:43:14.000 I think that is the next step above these Patriot Act resolutions, and that's the idea I originally came up with that was then watered down and duplicated by the Bill of Rights Defense Committee.

02:43:25.000 Well, you know, it seems like if we were to do something like that, since all of our government officials are taking oaths to uphold and defend these constitutions, that it would certainly seem odd if they were to oppose such a thing.

02:43:36.000 It would help to identify Uh, you know, traitorous politicians, and hopefully awaken some of the loyal politicians and citizens, and just bring the, you know, light to the whole issue.

02:43:47.000 Well, I go back to, you know, uh, courage lacks when there aren't numbers, and this illusion is breaking.

02:43:55.000 All these prominent people are coming out on a hundred different key, uh, touchstone issues.

02:44:01.000 And so this is starting to happen.

02:44:03.000 I mean, already people are starting to see through what's going on.

02:44:07.000 And so it's up to us to not go, oh, it's all over.

02:44:09.000 There's nothing we can do.

02:44:10.000 Or to end fight with each other as the COINTELPROers would like us to do.

02:44:14.000 We've got to just keep moving forward on the enemy, Bob.

02:44:16.000 When at the federal level they're doing some of this stuff, and we at local levels and state levels say, no, we're not going to play the game.

02:44:23.000 It reminds me of when I was a little kid growing up in the 60s and the 70s.

02:44:28.000 The hippies used to say, hey man, what if they gave a war and nobody came?

02:44:33.000 Well, you know, that's kind of like what we're doing.

02:44:34.000 So fine, you want to pass a Patriot Act that says you're going to search my house and seize my stuff without a warrant?

02:44:40.000 Well, we at the local level, we aren't going to play the game.

02:44:42.000 What if they gave a Patriot Act and nobody played?

02:44:45.000 You know, I think it's a good idea.

02:44:46.000 Well, they'll carry out a terror attack to convince us it was our fault, but now they're getting exposed that they're behind the terror.

02:44:52.000 Anything else there, sir?

02:44:54.000 Well, you know, I would love to hear you guys both discuss You know, strategies or tools that we can use to defeat the Hegelian dialectic of political conflict resolution as it relates to, like for example, Alex, I've seen you a couple times on a network called Free Speech TV.

02:45:10.000 I'm sure you're aware of the network.

02:45:12.000 Yes!

02:45:13.000 And, you know, there's a lot of good information to be had about 9-11, Iraq, and other stuff.

02:45:19.000 Well, the answer is the U.N.

02:45:20.000 world government.

02:45:21.000 Exactly.

02:45:22.000 No, no, see, the left will sit there and sell the stuff that's true, but then give you bad solutions.

02:45:27.000 Right, and that's what worries me so much, is that there's so few people that are awake, and of the ones that are awake, So many of them are going to get siphoned off into these, you know, phony things.

02:45:38.000 And like you said, they're giving us the choice between National Socialism with a Bush Administration or International Socialism if we would have had somebody like Kerry.

02:45:47.000 But as soon as you explain, I'm telling you liberals though, well meaning liberals I talked to five years ago, I'd explain that big government is for the elite and corporations lobby for it and that socialism is really a tool to consolidate the wealth.

02:46:00.000 I mean, socialism is like the mosquito lands on you.

02:46:02.000 It doesn't just stick its proboscis into you. 0.54

02:46:04.000 It sticks its proboscis in and pumps in an enzyme to liquefy.

02:46:08.000 So, socialism liquefies us, domesticates us, then the international corporation sucks the innards out.

02:46:14.000 So, socialism doesn't lead to communism.

02:46:16.000 Socialism leads to fascism, corporatism.

02:46:19.000 It's designed so their paradigm's all screwed up, but you give them the truth and you shift their paradigm.

02:46:25.000 Ooh, it feels good!

02:46:25.000 Man, it all makes sense!

02:46:26.000 Ooh, it's true!

02:46:27.000 You see, we got the truth, and you can't keep a-comin' against the truth!

02:46:31.000 I'm tellin' you, man, look, we're gonna win this thing.

02:46:34.000 We always had, throughout history, it's gonna be tough, it's gonna be rough.

02:46:38.000 God bless you, and thanks for holdin'.

02:46:39.000 It was good to hear from you.

02:46:40.000 Let's take another call here.

02:46:42.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Art in Kansas.

02:46:45.000 We're not in Kansas anymore, Art.

02:46:47.000 Welcome.

02:46:47.000 You can say that again.

02:46:49.000 You may know of this organization in Kerrville, Texas, the Fund to Restore an Educated Electorate, F.R.E.E., that was founded in 1980.

02:46:57.000 They have a 22 by 17 folded broadside that lists CFR, the Trial Act, and the Builder Burgers, and we're dealing with these creeps every day. 0.83

02:47:11.000 You can get this broadside for two bucks, postpaid, from F.R.E.E., post office box 29 Yeah, really what it ought to do with that big chart of how they control things is it ought to just order a whole bunch of those and sell those or get those out to people.

02:47:32.000 The plug, where you just give the address out and they won't get a single letter.

02:47:34.000 It's the best thing I've ever seen, though, to know who these people are.

02:47:39.000 I mean, you can't do business any day of the year without funding these creeps.

02:47:44.000 No, they sit over every major system and they use the government to give themselves the contracts.

02:47:49.000 The universities and the media and you name it.

02:47:52.000 So I don't know what to do about that.

02:47:54.000 You know, I used to have those and I'd always lose them or give them away.

02:47:58.000 Mail me one of those and I'll carry those.

02:48:01.000 Well, you can get them right down there.

02:48:03.000 Well, I know, but I forget how to... I don't have their address or phone number.

02:48:06.000 Will you send it to me?

02:48:08.000 Oh yeah, I can send it if you want, sure.

02:48:10.000 Sure, and then I'll contact them, and what I'm saying is maybe I'll put them in free in orders or something.

02:48:14.000 Well, that'd be good.

02:48:16.000 Alright, thank you so much for the call, sir.

02:48:18.000 We've got a great final segment coming up.

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02:51:53.000 I have to start having Bob Dasey in here for two hours every month or so if you'll do it, Bob.

02:52:00.000 If I can figure out the time, I'll do it.

02:52:02.000 I know.

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02:52:12.000 It's kind of rough, you know?

02:52:13.000 I hear you.

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02:53:16.000 Barbara and Tejas, you're on the air with Bob Dacey.

02:53:19.000 Hey Bob, hey Alex, how are you doing?

02:53:23.000 Good.

02:53:23.000 You were talking about waking Bob up.

02:53:25.000 I wanted to let you know before I get to my questions that Alex, you woke me up while I was in the dentist chair when I first moved to Austin.

02:53:34.000 How's that?

02:53:35.000 I don't remember that, but how were you in the dentist chair?

02:53:38.000 Well, I was in the dentist chair and you were on the TV.

02:53:40.000 Oh, okay.

02:53:40.000 That was the first time I'd ever seen you.

02:53:42.000 Gotcha, gotcha.

02:53:43.000 And that was pretty funny.

02:53:45.000 And I thought you were getting a little out there once, and myself, and I thought, wow, man, has Alex gone too far?

02:53:51.000 And you were talking about the codes and laser printers?

02:53:55.000 Uh, yeah.

02:53:56.000 How many years ago was that?

02:53:58.000 And then the next day, you know, well, when I had, you had revisited it a few, like a few weeks ago.

02:54:04.000 No, I mean, that was in the news, in industry publications four or five years ago.

02:54:07.000 Oh, I know, I know, you were talking, I'm talking about a few weeks ago, you were totally, the next day in the Austin Statesman, it was on front page, so I was like, oh.

02:54:17.000 I don't want to believe this stuff is true.

02:54:19.000 I just spend all my time researching it.

02:54:21.000 Well that's not why I called.

02:54:22.000 I called for a few things.

02:54:24.000 Yesterday you were talking about population extermination and you mentioned Peter Singer.

02:54:30.000 Yes.

02:54:31.000 I attended a graduate seminar with Peter Singer in the philosophy department at the University of Colorado.

02:54:38.000 Yes.

02:54:39.000 I was an undergraduate and I was so enraged at him and his position that I attended this graduate seminar and I was the only person who argued with him.

02:54:51.000 Who even raised their hand.

02:54:53.000 Why don't you write an article?

02:54:54.000 Why don't you write an article for me about what you heard him say and what he did and I'll post it.

02:54:59.000 Okay.

02:54:59.000 I'll try and remember exactly what he said but I'd love to.

02:55:02.000 We're almost out of time.

02:55:03.000 What else is on your mind?

02:55:04.000 Free trade.

02:55:05.000 Path from Mexico to Canada.

02:55:07.000 I lived in Vancouver for the last four years and discovered that the Hell's Angels are in charge of Canada.

02:55:15.000 Well, there are a lot of criminal groups that the government uses, I wouldn't say fully in charge.

02:55:20.000 Listen, I'm out of time, I gotta go.

02:55:23.000 Bob, we'll try to cram one more in as we said we would.

02:55:25.000 I gotta have you back on.

02:55:26.000 Jeff in Denver, go ahead.

02:55:27.000 Yeah, hey, Alex, you and Bob are doing a really good job.

02:55:30.000 Thank you.

02:55:31.000 Yeah, I wanted to pass some information along.

02:55:33.000 Alex, I was on your show back on October 26th.

02:55:37.000 And, uh, what we talked about was, um, CIA international trafficking in children about Yorkshire Television's Discovery Channel.

02:55:45.000 Yeah, you called in, yes.

02:55:46.000 Yeah, a video documentary exposing a child sex ring that reached, uh, Daddy Bush, Bush Sr.

02:55:50.000 at the White House.

02:55:51.000 Yeah, we're almost out of time.

02:55:52.000 Okay, anyways, um, after I was on your show about an hour, I was surrounded by three Colorado State Police and two FBI agents who started threatening me.

02:56:00.000 Oh yeah, that actually happened.

02:56:02.000 Oh, do you have a record of that?

02:56:05.000 Oh, yes, I sure do.

02:56:06.000 I actually have a record of it.

02:56:07.000 I'll send it to you.

02:56:08.000 Okay, send it to me.

02:56:08.000 We're out of time.

02:56:09.000 Bob, you know, I try to get to the calls and it ends up getting sped up and it's crazy, but anything else you want to say?

02:56:14.000 I just want to say go to TheNewAmerican.com and read my article on Texas, the crossroads, the keystone state of the FDAA.

02:56:23.000 Alright, thanks for coming on.

02:56:23.000 We're out of here.

02:56:24.000 Take care.

Alex Jones Show - November 11, 2005

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