Alex Jones Show - 20051216_Fri_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 The End Only, what, 14 days left in 2005?

00:00:35.000 I know I said this a few weeks ago, but it just feels like 2005 started yesterday.

00:00:37.000 Well, my friends, we are beginning to enter the orbit of 2006.

00:00:45.000 Only, what, 14 days left in 2005.

00:00:51.000 I know I said this a few weeks ago, but it just feels like 2005 started yesterday.

00:00:58.000 It took me four or five months to just get accustomed to it being 2005, and now I'm going to have to get ready for 2006.

00:01:09.000 And that should, again, just remind us how transitory life is, how quick life is, and how really what is most important is leaving behind a better country, a better world for our children and grandchildren, and those of you that are blessed enough to have great-grandchildren.

00:01:28.000 And we stand on the shoulders of those that sacrificed and stood up against tyranny.

00:01:33.000 It's the only reason we have any liberty or any freedom left.

00:01:37.000 And we've been basically living off of that savings account, and we've depleted it now down to zero, and we're starting to go into negative territory.

00:01:46.000 So it's going to take a lot to dig out of this hole, but believe me, we have been digging out of it.

00:01:52.000 If you hadn't been out there fighting the New World Order, getting the word out, exposing this worldwide corrupt empire, we'd be in a lot worse position today.

00:02:02.000 I have two guests on today.

00:02:04.000 One of them is a medical doctor from Illinois who's done some of these major studies looking at communities of tens of thousands of people that do not vaccinate like the Amish and others.

00:02:15.000 Zero autism.

00:02:16.000 So in his own practice of 35,000 people, he stopped vaccinating and they've never had a case of autism.

00:02:24.000 It's totally conclusive.

00:02:26.000 That's just in his own long-term, decades and decades long study.

00:02:31.000 We have just, there are so many studies on mercury and vaccines and vaccination, immunization as they call it, and autism, but some of you are still on the dial, so we'll go over this today.

00:02:44.000 And then in the third hour, a little mini guest, she's on for about 15 minutes, Ms. 1.00

00:02:48.000 Champion, her son.

00:02:51.000 Jasper County, Georgia, found the hidden camera over the bathroom stall, removed it, took it home to her, and then he was suspended.

00:02:57.000 Well, another boy is being expelled for the year for taking out a camera and bringing it to the principal.

00:03:04.000 And so, when she was on a few weeks ago, Ms. 0.67

00:03:07.000 Champion, in this case is in Wichita, Kansas, Mrs. Champion said she's going to start a national organization to fight surveillance in bathrooms. 0.99

00:03:18.000 And believe me, we need a national organization to fight it because government across the board is doing it.

00:03:24.000 So that's coming up in the third hour.

00:03:26.000 We're going to have wide-open phones today.

00:03:29.000 And you may hear that my voice sounds even more raspy and alligator-hide-ish than normal.

00:03:36.000 And I might be coming down with a cold.

00:03:38.000 I do have a sore throat.

00:03:40.000 It was pointed out to me by some of my crew today that it sounded really bad.

00:03:44.000 So, you know, I say I'm going to try to shut up and just take your calls and let you talk, but you know I'm obnoxious and who knows what will happen, but we will go to your calls early in this first hour.

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00:08:07.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, Friday edition.

00:08:32.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and it's not about left or right.

00:08:35.000 It's about right and wrong.

00:08:37.000 It's about Criminal elites throughout history get in control of populations, countries, empires, and abusing populations because that is their very nature.

00:08:49.000 And now we have a gullible population that has been trained to shuck and shirk responsibility.

00:08:56.000 To not face up to threats to freedom and we are turning into a high-tech nightmare of control and surveillance and social engineering to dumb us down even further.

00:09:10.000 And yes, the master plan is to then have forced population reductions of 85 plus percent.

00:09:17.000 This is the official plan, official plans.

00:09:21.000 And we have Dr. Henry Kissinger in the 70s preparing a CIA report for the IMF and World Bank, ordering third world countries to carry out these operations, which they did to a great extent.

00:09:33.000 We have Australian documents from the 50s.

00:09:35.000 We have major documents and statements from world leaders in the last few years, major publications.

00:09:43.000 And the U.N.

00:09:44.000 Food Program, the U.N.

00:09:45.000 Population Fund, all of it, the World Trade Organization, all the major organs, the World Health Organization, it's all to get individual nation states dependent on global corporations.

00:09:59.000 That's what globalism is.

00:10:00.000 Interdependence is no one being sovereign, no one being strong, just the centralized global corporations that control the global government.

00:10:09.000 And the Democrats won't tell you about it.

00:10:11.000 Republicans won't tell you about it because they're in the hip pocket of the New World Order.

00:10:15.000 We're going to be taking a lot of your calls today.

00:10:17.000 The toll-free number is 1-800-259-9231.

00:10:19.000 We do have a guest coming up, a medical doctor, to talk about statistics and the numbers on autism and vaccination, so-called immunization.

00:10:28.000 And then we also have more on the cameras popping up all over the country in the school bathrooms.

00:10:33.000 A guest coming on to cover the incredible Orwellian nature of that.

00:10:37.000 A little bit in the third hour.

00:10:41.000 One of the Bush administration individuals, one of his henchmen, went public, Robert Blackwell, at a CFR meeting last week, and told us how great torture is.

00:10:56.000 And it was on national television, and he went all into how it's a wonderful thing, and really actually a good thing, and of course, then we got a flashback here, and this is out of the Washington Post, They reported on him as supposedly abusing one of his aides, but here's our headline on it on the Washington Post article.

00:11:15.000 Torture advocate Blackwell likes to assault women. 1.00

00:11:21.000 And we then put the Washington Post article up there.

00:11:26.000 Where it gets into, in front of everyone at an international airport, getting on Air France, one of his aides hadn't said something upright, so he actually basically grabbed on her, and grabbed on her so hard, and twisted her arm up behind her so hard that it was seriously damaged, and Colin Powell threw a fit.

00:11:45.000 This is back in 1990, excuse me, 2004, which feels like the 90's still.

00:11:53.000 Back in 2004, last year, there was a big hubbub about it, so this is the type of individual who thinks torture is great, can't even control himself, beating up on his aides in public, so we'll get into that report.

00:12:08.000 Also, Tommy Thompson, it's in the AP, you know, he's traveling the country saying, in public schools, saying everyone needs a microchip, chips keep the children safe.

00:12:16.000 Why?

00:12:17.000 He's the former secretary of a major federal department, Health and Human Services, And then he said three months ago that he was going to be getting a chip.

00:12:27.000 Excuse me, four months ago.

00:12:30.000 But he hasn't gotten the chip yet.

00:12:33.000 And then there was a big furor over the fact that he said he was going to be taking it in a week or so, and then he hasn't taken it.

00:12:38.000 So now he's promising, no, no, no, I'm going to take it.

00:12:41.000 I just haven't been around a medical facility yet to do it.

00:12:45.000 As if those kooks over at Applied Digital Solutions as if ADS wouldn't, you know, chip him on TV like they've done so many other monkeys.

00:12:58.000 So, we'll get into that.

00:13:00.000 Also, they're saying that Al Zakari has been caught and released by our government officially.

00:13:06.000 So here's just pure evidence of him being CIA.

00:13:09.000 Now they're saying they captured him and released him again.

00:13:11.000 I mean, this is literally a... Every few weeks they do this.

00:13:17.000 I mean, we haven't ever counted it up.

00:13:19.000 A few months ago a major publication did and said it was ten times they've killed him or captured him.

00:13:24.000 I don't even know anymore.

00:13:26.000 What, every few weeks we announce a new capture, a new release, a new killing?

00:13:30.000 I mean, this guy's got more lives than a cat.

00:13:33.000 He's got more than nine lives here.

00:13:35.000 Why don't they even use new names?

00:13:37.000 I guess if the average American can't even find Iraq on a map and wants to attack France when asked by foreign television, then it doesn't matter.

00:13:48.000 He's like the Bad guy on a superhero cartoon who just shows up every new episode after being destroyed in the previous episode. 1.00

00:13:58.000 They're literally treating us like we're total idiots. 1.00

00:14:01.000 And I guess many of us are. 1.00

00:14:03.000 And I'm not trying to be sardonic here.

00:14:05.000 This scares the daylights out of me.

00:14:09.000 Bush secretly lifted some limits on spying U.S.

00:14:12.000 after 9-11, officials say, with no warrants before he even passed the Patriot Act.

00:14:16.000 And now after, they admit that the FBI, 30-plus thousand times, had these national security letters that are in the Patriot Act, where it's just a carte blanche to investigate, search, break into whoever's house you want.

00:14:30.000 It's really Section 213, but then there's another subsection on top of it.

00:14:35.000 And now they are trying to actually expand all of that, and I have some of the subsections here that we'll go over that deal with this today.

00:14:45.000 I know it's really passe and old hat and worn out here.

00:14:50.000 Breaking news!

00:14:51.000 The Washington Post has learned.

00:14:52.000 MSNBC has learned.

00:14:54.000 Fox News has learned.

00:14:56.000 All these big public... The New York Times has learned breaking news!

00:15:00.000 The Pentagon's taking video of you!

00:15:03.000 The Pentagon's looking through your windows!

00:15:06.000 The Pentagon's been breaking into your house!

00:15:08.000 Breaking news!

00:15:11.000 It's been in all the alternative journals since before 9-11.

00:15:14.000 It just... You can go literally bathe in military intelligence operatives if you go to different demonstrations and protests.

00:15:23.000 They're just all around you.

00:15:25.000 Delta Force was commanding 50 black block hired anarchists who were openly trained at a big foundation training school a few months before Seattle, and Delta Force was commanding them in Seattle in 1999.

00:15:38.000 They went and burned trash cans, knocked out windows.

00:15:41.000 The cops admitted they were ordered to stand down.

00:15:43.000 Then the anarchists were treated to a government building where they were protected.

00:15:46.000 I have all the newscasts.

00:15:47.000 It's in my film, Police State 2, The Takeover.

00:15:50.000 And the anarchists worked for Delta Force.

00:15:52.000 And there is the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reporting.

00:15:56.000 I have the articles that the Delta Force was in the buildings.

00:16:00.000 And oh, President Bill Clinton doesn't like protest.

00:16:04.000 We'll just bring in our hired thugs. 0.99

00:16:06.000 They'll burn a few things. 0.96

00:16:07.000 The cameras will videotape them.

00:16:08.000 We won't touch them.

00:16:09.000 We'll house them and protect them.

00:16:11.000 Even in front of people.

00:16:12.000 It was obvious they were government operatives. 0.84

00:16:14.000 Just a rent-a-mob of little thugs, giggling and snickering.

00:16:18.000 And then the Army Special Operations ran that.

00:16:21.000 I mean, that's not anything new.

00:16:23.000 And then they used videotape of that in police departments all over the country, and then issued the Federal Storm Trooper, Riot Gear, Darth Vader outfits.

00:16:32.000 And then say, you can't allow protests anymore, because things changed after Seattle.

00:16:37.000 See, that was used as a change agent, change event, paradigm shift event, much like 9-11, just the riots in Seattle, which they had as a big theatrical display.

00:16:47.000 And then they would actually fly that black block, that particular group of anarchists, all over the country. 0.82

00:16:53.000 They would fly them and land them in D.C., and fly and land them in Genoa, and fly and land them in London, and fly and land them in Georgia.

00:17:03.000 Anywhere they were good, decent protesters protesting world government, protesting the WTO, controlling our trade and our Congress, having more authority than our elected representatives, there they'd pop up and They'd throw a few beer bottles at cops and burn a few trash cans, and the cops would always be ordered angrily.

00:17:19.000 They'd be very angry.

00:17:20.000 Why are we being held back?

00:17:21.000 Just stand down, stand down.

00:17:23.000 These men are here from the military advising us.

00:17:25.000 Let them move back now. 0.94

00:17:26.000 Now attack, attack. 0.93

00:17:28.000 And they would just savagely... We have video of them beating old women in the head, just stomping on them as they scream and beg, breaking collarbones. 1.00

00:17:36.000 The cops are just so stupid. 0.99

00:17:39.000 Again, they're the equivalent of bull-mastiff-rottweiler mixes, mixed, I guess, crossed with a pit bull, tied to a chain, and the government walks over and beats them in the head with something to make them angry, and then leaves and then basically throws the American people into the pit and then leaves and then basically throws the American people into the pit with a dog and And the dog's frothing, angry, and just comes in biting. 1.00

00:18:03.000 Or a better analogy would be a bull.

00:18:05.000 Again, I go back to the raging bull analogy.

00:18:08.000 And the matador gets in there and throws the little darts in its back and beats it over the head and gets it all angry.

00:18:13.000 And then the American people are basically like a three-year-old young child or two-year-old toddler.

00:18:19.000 And then the American people have been so dumbed down and so innocent that we're just stuck out there in the middle of the arena with these mindless police who then they release like the bull and they just run us over. 0.70

00:18:32.000 And the matador goes up in the stands and laughs.

00:18:37.000 And I for one am sick and tired of it.

00:18:41.000 I for one am not going to put up with it.

00:18:44.000 I for one just I'm not trying to be mean.

00:18:50.000 I'm really not trying to be mean.

00:18:51.000 It just is mind-boggling, the things that go on.

00:18:58.000 Just in plain view, the military went and hired thugs and let them tear stuff up.

00:19:02.000 Then the cops were so mad for the day having to put up with it, they actually followed orders to let people throw bottles at them and break into stores.

00:19:10.000 And the cops are going, I just don't get why the city housed them, and I don't get why the city protected them, and I don't get why we weren't allowed to stop them, but then we were told to clear the streets of everybody else after they were pulled out. 0.97

00:19:21.000 Well, stop, put two and two together, dummy! 0.99

00:19:24.000 I mean, you're not stupid. 1.00

00:19:27.000 You're willfully ignorant. 1.00

00:19:31.000 I'm tired of seeing everything provocateur. 1.00

00:19:33.000 I'm tired of it.

00:19:34.000 I'm sick of it.

00:19:39.000 What's wrong with our military?

00:19:40.000 Why would they go run some operation like this, knowing it was hurting America?

00:19:45.000 Watching America die in the streets there in Seattle?

00:19:49.000 You saw what happened a day ago with the riots.

00:19:51.000 No more free speech.

00:19:52.000 We have police saying that on the tape.

00:19:56.000 Well, because of the riot, we banned free speech.

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00:24:23.000 What I mentioned earlier, some of the news will be going over.

00:24:25.000 We have a rule that if you disagree with me, A lot of people then just call in and go, I disagree with you, the new world order is a lot worse than you say.

00:24:34.000 I mean, if you really disagree with me, I'd love to hear the old callers that think world government doesn't exist, or that think world government's good.

00:24:43.000 Because that always really illustrates what we're dealing with.

00:24:46.000 And I still get a few of those emails.

00:24:47.000 Or I'd love to hear from somebody that doesn't like the fact that I don't like George Bush.

00:24:52.000 Somebody who really thinks he's the President, and really thinks he's running things, and really thinks that Bush is a good Christian man.

00:25:01.000 I mean, I just want to understand that view.

00:25:05.000 Or that Saddam was a threat and needed to be taken out. 0.67

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00:25:20.000 I'm told you disagree.

00:25:21.000 Go ahead.

00:25:23.000 Hey, Alex.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, first of all, I do love your show.

00:25:26.000 But I have to, and I've been listening for a long time, But I need to set you straight on some of the details with regards to that Miami shooting at the airport.

00:25:36.000 I heard your interview with Paul Watson.

00:25:40.000 And I am a flight attendant.

00:25:42.000 And I do work for American.

00:25:45.000 And I have to tell you, I read the stories and I know the story about what happened too, but where this customer was seated was in 24C behind the window exit on that particular aircraft.

00:25:56.000 There's no way he could have heard any kind of I mean, listen, the police, the air marshals are now saying that he didn't say bomb.

00:26:03.000 Oh, well, you know, that's what we've been told.

00:26:04.000 happen in the cabin of course there would be a lot of people who heard a threat made a bomb whatever if it was said in the cabin i mean listen the the police the air marshals are now saying that he didn't say bomb oh well you know that's what we've been told but i don't know i understand but but see that's how this works the first two days they said bomb the

00:26:29.000 Then later, they said, okay, he didn't say bomb, but he had a backpack and was saying no and acting suspiciously and trying to get away from us.

00:26:38.000 So they said, and so now everybody's, and now they're not lying on record.

00:26:43.000 They're saying, no, he didn't say he had a bomb.

00:26:46.000 That is from them.

00:26:48.000 It's just like the Demendez individual from Brazil.

00:26:52.000 Who they shot over and over again.

00:26:54.000 Wasn't wearing a big jacket.

00:26:55.000 Was wearing a blue jean shirt.

00:26:58.000 It was 60 degrees that day.

00:26:59.000 Didn't have wires sticking out.

00:27:01.000 Didn't jump over the turnstiles.

00:27:03.000 Picked up a newspaper.

00:27:05.000 Walked in an ambling way onto the train.

00:27:08.000 And they walked in there and killed him.

00:27:10.000 So I'm just saying... Well, I understand.

00:27:12.000 And I, you know, I am just as... I'm on the same page with you there.

00:27:16.000 And I'm not saying that what they told us was the gospel, okay?

00:27:19.000 But the reason that I'm calling is I just want people to know that if you're on an airplane and you are making any kind of move toward the cockpit whatsoever, and you've been told to stop, And you don't get down and you do not follow instructions, you're going to die.

00:27:37.000 I mean that's what's going to happen. 0.98

00:27:38.000 Well, we're just going to have to kill autistic folks and retarded children and people that have panic attacks. 1.00

00:27:44.000 Let's start implanting a little exploding microchip on their carotid arteries. 1.00

00:27:50.000 Or maybe a little explosive on every heart.

00:27:53.000 And then when somebody's bad, the cops can just hit a button and blow a hole in our heart.

00:27:57.000 Then that way Al-Qaeda won't get us. 0.98

00:28:00.000 Well, the other thing I want to point out, too, is if there is any kind of an incident on an aircraft, people are going to be asked to get down.

00:28:07.000 And it's not because people don't want you to see what's going on.

00:28:10.000 It's for your safety.

00:28:12.000 You know, our number one priority is your safety.

00:28:14.000 We want you to be just as healthy walking onto that aircraft as you were when you left.

00:28:18.000 Well, look, I know the flight attendants are nice folks.

00:28:19.000 So are the air marshals, by the way, because you go down on a lot of flights.

00:28:23.000 Yeah, you know, keeping us safe from all the government agents that were taking part in a drill that day.

00:28:29.000 Yeah, but you know, it's just like cops.

00:28:31.000 I mean, you know, and a lot of them used to be cops.

00:28:34.000 They're good people, too.

00:28:35.000 Can we ask you a question, Debbie?

00:28:39.000 Debbie, did you know that the Dean of the Defense Language School says he was forced to train four of the supposed hijackers?

00:28:46.000 That they were government agents?

00:28:47.000 Did you know that, Debbie?

00:28:48.000 No, I haven't heard that.

00:28:49.000 Yeah, that was in the major newspapers in California.

00:28:53.000 Did you know they trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida?

00:28:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, I've heard about that.

00:29:00.000 MSNBC, Pensacola News Journal.

00:29:02.000 Did you know that the U.S.

00:29:04.000 Embassy was ordered to let them back in the country and told that they were anti-terror officers?

00:29:09.000 What are these anti-terror men?

00:29:11.000 Suddenly they're these deadly Muslims who were at topless bars the night before. 1.00

00:29:16.000 It's pure baloney. 0.96

00:29:18.000 So the pretext for having air marshals, who by the way are now going to be on the street corner, I guess if somebody runs away here on the street corner now with the air marshals on the ground, should they be blasted?

00:29:29.000 Well hey, you know the, the uh, those guys, those hijackers, a number of them were on our flight before September 11th.

00:29:37.000 I know people who came face to face with, um, FACA.

00:29:40.000 Oh my God, stay there, it's exactly, yeah, like James Woods?

00:29:44.000 Exactly!

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00:33:10.000 Remember the flight attendant?

00:33:11.000 What was her name?

00:33:12.000 Susan Hong?

00:33:13.000 She said they've locked themselves in the cabin.

00:33:15.000 They're taking the oxygen out of the airplane.

00:33:20.000 Was that hijackers?

00:33:22.000 You know, James Woods, the famous American actor, was on, what was it, American Airlines flying from New York to LA a few weeks before 9-11 and Mohammad and others were on board and he got off the plane and said, listen, these guys are practicing hijacking. 0.77

00:33:41.000 And the FBI came to him and they said, shut your mouth National Security.

00:33:45.000 You don't tell anybody or we'll arrest you.

00:33:47.000 I mean, I've got him on tape from Fox News somewhere in my library.

00:33:50.000 I played the clip before many years ago.

00:33:52.000 Somewhere on the web too.

00:33:53.000 James Woods on Fox TV talking about it.

00:33:56.000 Okay?

00:33:58.000 And uh... so we have the embassy saying let these guys back in there doing anti-terror work for us.

00:34:03.000 We have the Dean of the Defense Language School who had to train them in advanced language and coding and a bunch of other stuff.

00:34:09.000 Training them to be spies.

00:34:10.000 We have them trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station on record by our military.

00:34:15.000 Why?

00:34:17.000 We have quote FBI informants living in houses with them.

00:34:21.000 All of this going on We have other weird stuff.

00:34:24.000 Remember Nick Berg?

00:34:25.000 I suppose he's got his head sawed off.

00:34:27.000 Oh, but he's with the hijackers at a flight school and just gives them his laptop, little government agent that he is.

00:34:33.000 It just spooks all over the place.

00:34:37.000 And then we're talking to a flight attendant, Debbie, and I keep just making the points.

00:34:42.000 All this police state we're hearing we have to have is for a non-existent threat outside of something being manufactured by a criminal group above our own government.

00:34:52.000 And I don't even know if Debbie's connecting with that.

00:34:54.000 But Debbie, you start making my point for me, going, well, the hijackers were on the planes in the weeks before.

00:34:59.000 Yes, we know.

00:35:00.000 But I mean, give us your view on that from inside.

00:35:06.000 Okay.

00:35:07.000 The phone call that was made to the Boston supervisor, it's a real phone call.

00:35:14.000 That person's voice has been identified by a lot of people who know her.

00:35:17.000 Her name was Betty Ong.

00:35:19.000 She was, I mean, talk about somebody who had a lot of, you know, I mean, a lot of nerve.

00:35:26.000 And, you know, she, and she said she saw buildings and the last thing they heard, that was it.

00:35:30.000 That was the last thing she heard.

00:35:32.000 He said, what'd you see?

00:35:33.000 Oh my God, I see buildings.

00:35:33.000 What do you see out the window?

00:35:35.000 Okay, so that's one of the things that doesn't add up.

00:35:38.000 And so you believe it when you saw Forrest Gump shake hands?

00:35:42.000 You ever seen Forrest Gump?

00:35:44.000 Well, yeah, I've seen that.

00:35:45.000 I mean, have you ever seen space aliens?

00:35:47.000 Have you ever seen space aliens bust out of people's stomachs on an alien?

00:35:51.000 It's not real.

00:35:52.000 Well, I'll tell you something, Alex.

00:35:54.000 The question that I have about this whole thing... I mean, go back to what you said before the break, okay?

00:35:59.000 Go back to what you said before the break.

00:36:01.000 You were saying that, you know, they're an American.

00:36:04.000 Why, you guys all know that they've been on the planes and leaks before.

00:36:07.000 Yeah.

00:36:08.000 I mean, talk about that.

00:36:10.000 Well, I just talked to people who have Who talked about it, who said that they saw him, that they came face to face with him out there pulling tickets.

00:36:17.000 And they said to the agent out there, hey this guy, you know, he gives me the creeps.

00:36:22.000 You know, I get a bad feeling about him.

00:36:24.000 The agent said, it's okay, he's a pilot.

00:36:27.000 So they had ID to get on, you know, that said they were pilots.

00:36:30.000 You know, I mean they checked out before 9-11.

00:36:34.000 So they were out there.

00:36:36.000 Debbie, have you heard nothing I've said?

00:36:38.000 I mean, you sound like a smart lady, but I think you have a willful block to what I'm saying.

00:36:44.000 Do you understand all the evidence shows that these supposed hijackers were taking part in drills that they believe were to test the readiness.

00:36:54.000 I agree.

00:36:55.000 I agree with you.

00:36:56.000 They were meant to act suspicious, get on board the planes.

00:36:59.000 We know they were in the employ of the military industrial complex.

00:37:04.000 And then the only debate is did they really hijack or was it something else?

00:37:07.000 You know what Alex?

00:37:09.000 I totally agree with you on all of that.

00:37:10.000 I do.

00:37:11.000 And it makes me sick to think that we're being used.

00:37:15.000 And we're being used every day.

00:37:17.000 I'm used every day that I go to work.

00:37:19.000 And I know that.

00:37:21.000 You know, how much did the two main airlines get?

00:37:23.000 Like $25 billion?

00:37:24.000 And then they acted like they were going to go bankrupt and cut pay?

00:37:27.000 I mean, I remember doing the math.

00:37:30.000 $25 billion would be the record profits for a handful of airlines for many, many years.

00:37:35.000 It was just, there's their payoff.

00:37:37.000 Did you see how the four planes, two different companies, had quote, malfunctions where only 20.1% of the seats were filled on the four aircraft?

00:37:47.000 Oh yeah, I realized that.

00:37:49.000 On a day when it was at 80 plus percent occupancy.

00:37:51.000 Just magically, how does all that happen, Debbie?

00:37:54.000 I don't know.

00:37:54.000 I mean, does Al Qaeda control those computers?

00:37:56.000 You know what, that's the question I would like to know is, is where are my crew members?

00:38:02.000 You know, and I don't agree that our plane even went into the Pentagon.

00:38:07.000 I don't think it went into the Pentagon.

00:38:10.000 But what I would like to know is, where are all the people?

00:38:14.000 That's the ninety million dollar question.

00:38:18.000 The official Pentagon plan to carry out 9-11 style terrorist attacks said that they could have military officers under fake names board aircraft and then land that somewhere else and shoot down a drone passenger jet in between the waters between Cuba and Florida.

00:38:39.000 Then they had other plans where they said we can just really blow real people up Or we can go basically kill real people and then have another drone crash in front of others.

00:38:49.000 So God only knows what these inhuman murderers did. 0.96

00:38:52.000 We just know their official story is just an absolute fraud.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:38:57.000 So we can debate it all.

00:38:58.000 I mean, we know the owner of the World Trade Center says he blew it up.

00:39:01.000 We know they called their buddies and told them not to fly that out of New York.

00:39:04.000 We know NORAD stood down.

00:39:06.000 We know that the hijackers were government operatives.

00:39:09.000 I mean, that's not debatable.

00:39:11.000 That is just sterling, 100%.

00:39:13.000 I could go before any jury in the land and get them to say, yes, you're right.

00:39:17.000 I mean, it's 100% open and shut.

00:39:21.000 110%.

00:39:22.000 But then we get into all the... This is what intelligence agencies do.

00:39:27.000 I guarantee you, and the evidence shows this, there were four or five intelligence agencies from the Western world involved.

00:39:33.000 There was British intel, there was German, there was Israeli, there was U.S.

00:39:38.000 Looks like there might have been some Russians involved.

00:39:41.000 There were private contractors, there were private mercenary firms.

00:39:45.000 I mean, they had a lot of people involved in this.

00:39:49.000 Like I said, we're all used.

00:39:52.000 I'm used every day when I go to work.

00:39:55.000 Personally, I don't fear for my own safety.

00:39:57.000 Well, what I would fear is that the thing goes into dry dock.

00:40:02.000 A team of technicians come in.

00:40:06.000 They put the nerve gas inside a slot at an appointed time.

00:40:11.000 They'll even have some guys on board doing an anti-terror drill when it happens.

00:40:15.000 They'll nerve gas you guys.

00:40:18.000 Debbie, did you know that they had a computer program that you can buy on the open market?

00:40:21.000 I think it was about four years ago I first saw it.

00:40:23.000 Hollywood uses it and they use it for some of the game simulations.

00:40:27.000 If I can record you on the phone for a couple minutes...

00:40:31.000 Just off your tonal qualities and get your voice print.

00:40:35.000 The program was expensive a few years ago.

00:40:37.000 It gets cheaper and cheaper, but it was like $60,000 a few years ago.

00:40:43.000 I looked at it.

00:40:44.000 There are several of these programs, but the one I looked at, these things can change your voice real time.

00:40:49.000 I could hook it up to this microphone.

00:40:52.000 I could say dial in, I'm the government, and I'm not saying I am, folks, I'm saying figuratively, before some news article gets written, I could dial in, say record your mother for five minutes.

00:41:03.000 And then I could feed it through that computer system, that program, then interlace it in real time.

00:41:10.000 I could then call you up and go, Hi Debbie, it's Mommy. 1.00

00:41:14.000 And it would fool a computer.

00:41:16.000 Do you understand that?

00:41:17.000 Real time, once I had that, I could do that.

00:41:20.000 So just because there's three phone calls, they use the same phone calls on Discovery Channel shows for two different flights. 0.97

00:41:28.000 I mean, that's how dumb they think we are. 0.83

00:41:31.000 What about the supervisor who took the call? 0.99

00:41:34.000 So is he lying?

00:41:35.000 No, no, no.

00:41:37.000 It doesn't even take editing.

00:41:39.000 Once you do it, they can have the call from the technician go in and say, this is flight attendant such and such.

00:41:48.000 We've been hijacked.

00:41:48.000 They're in there.

00:41:49.000 Do you understand that?

00:41:51.000 So they can do it within seconds?

00:41:53.000 No, no.

00:41:53.000 Real time.

00:41:55.000 Once you have the voice print.

00:41:57.000 This is on-the-market software.

00:41:59.000 Okay.

00:41:59.000 Alright, well that makes a little bit more sense because that's something that's always puzzled me.

00:42:04.000 How would they know she was going to be on the flight attendant?

00:42:06.000 Well, here's the other thing.

00:42:06.000 You're a flight attendant.

00:42:07.000 You know this better than anybody.

00:42:09.000 Do cell phones work at 25,000 feet?

00:42:11.000 They don't work at all on board unless you're on the ground taxiing.

00:42:15.000 Period.

00:42:17.000 Well, of course.

00:42:18.000 My phone's been left on by accident and there's no signal.

00:42:22.000 Ever.

00:42:22.000 Well, everybody knows that.

00:42:24.000 And people go, what about the on-board phone?

00:42:26.000 That's totally different, folks.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, those are different.

00:42:28.000 Those work.

00:42:30.000 And we do have them on our wide-body flights.

00:42:32.000 Well, and that goes off a completely different system from a pod on the bottom of a plane, right?

00:42:35.000 It's part of the communications package.

00:42:37.000 Exactly.

00:42:37.000 And that's transmitted directly to another point.

00:42:42.000 So folks, this is what's going on.

00:42:43.000 Your cell phones do not work.

00:42:46.000 But on this day, all these magic cell phone calls?

00:42:49.000 That never made sense.

00:42:51.000 In fact, the day that it happened and those towers came down, I was standing in my living room watching this all unfold.

00:42:58.000 And when those towers came down, I knew right then.

00:43:01.000 I almost got sick to my stomach and I said, you've got to be kidding me.

00:43:05.000 They're going to make us believe that this was an airplane?

00:43:08.000 And I felt that right when I saw it.

00:43:11.000 But I mean, let's go further about the Pentagon.

00:43:13.000 Let's go further into this, though.

00:43:16.000 But, so now, they're telling you that they're there to protect you.

00:43:20.000 Don't worry.

00:43:21.000 In a few years, you're not going to have hardly any air marshals on the planes.

00:43:24.000 This is nothing but training for the National Police Force.

00:43:27.000 I saw it come out of Ridge's mouth.

00:43:29.000 So, again, it's not my opinion.

00:43:32.000 They're going to be on every street corner commanding local police.

00:43:36.000 So you'll have like one federal cop to every twenty police.

00:43:39.000 That's the plan.

00:43:40.000 Or more.

00:43:42.000 And that's the official TSA plan.

00:43:44.000 These are the federal managers over our local police, running around shaking people down.

00:43:49.000 It has nothing to do with keeping us safe from terrorism.

00:43:52.000 So, my point is, you know, the answer is arm the pilots with an instant access pistol safe, if there's a real hijacker threat, with a coded entry to get the gun, which will armor the doors, and then your problem is solved.

00:44:08.000 I mean, it's just... Well, a lot of the pilots are armed.

00:44:12.000 Not, you know, a huge percentage, but you never know who they are.

00:44:15.000 And those that can jump through 5 million hoops.

00:44:18.000 Yeah, and there's, you know, armored doors now.

00:44:21.000 And Bush was against arming any of them.

00:44:23.000 And we had to expose him as the little socialist he is to make him, to let what, 2% be armed now?

00:44:29.000 Whatever it is, yeah.

00:44:30.000 2% as of a year ago.

00:44:31.000 I haven't looked at it lately.

00:44:32.000 I mean, literally, I said, it was, how many hoops was it?

00:44:37.000 It was over ten things you had to do. 0.97

00:44:40.000 I mean, it was ridiculous.

00:44:43.000 Well, listen, I appreciate you calling into the show, but believe me, if you analyze each piece of it, everything the government says is impossible. 0.95

00:44:51.000 Everything they say is a lie.

00:44:53.000 Everything is manufactured.

00:44:54.000 And in every case, you run into government agents and government operations.

00:44:59.000 Well, I'll tell you, the rose-colored glasses came off a long time ago for me.

00:45:02.000 Well, that's good, Debbie.

00:45:03.000 And you know, and the people, I just want people to know that You know, we care about you.

00:45:08.000 You know, when you come on our flights, we care about you. 1.00

00:45:10.000 I understand that, but then when you realize that the terror threats are fraud, then gutting down people, having a Prozac moment, is stupid. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Thanks for the call. 0.99

00:45:18.000 There's no reason to do that.

00:45:21.000 This is baloney. 0.98

00:45:23.000 I mean, I might say I'm the toughest guy in the world, but somebody pulls a box cutter on me, I'm going to go completely ape and just savage them. 0.97

00:45:32.000 I mean, I don't understand this with people. 0.54

00:45:35.000 And I'm not trying to get off in this, but I grew up in Dallas where things were really rough, and I had knives, guns pulled on me, and I just see red and go nuts, and I don't care.

00:45:42.000 A box cutter?

00:45:44.000 Give me a break, folks.

00:45:46.000 And those pilots are almost all former military.

00:45:48.000 These guys are tough.

00:45:49.000 I mean, they're not wimps.

00:45:51.000 There's all these, that's why, it's just, it's, that's a whole other facet. 0.94

00:45:55.000 It's baloney.

00:45:57.000 It's baloney.

00:45:59.000 Okay?

00:46:00.000 It just is not true.

00:46:03.000 I hope you get well soon.

00:46:04.000 shows on this I've made three films on it you know I got a loaded phones I got a guest come up I wanted to go to your calls end up having Debbie on for 15 20 minutes but let me let's let's go to Eddie and England quickly and then Steve and many many others go ahead daddy you're on the air oh hello Alex um I hope you get well soon and don't you dare leave the airways the world of freedom needs you I've got a little bit of a sore throat.

00:46:32.000 Anyway, may I speak about the collusion between states on political prisoners?

00:46:38.000 Well yeah, Europe acted like it was against the torture.

00:46:40.000 Oh, we're shocked and it turns out they're all part of it.

00:46:43.000 It's all staged.

00:46:44.000 Yeah, I appreciate that.

00:46:47.000 I've been following somebody for some considerable time.

00:46:50.000 a man called Ernst Zundel, who was arrested in America, reported to Canada, held in solitary confinement for two years.

00:46:57.000 And then when his lawyer, I think a man called Peter Lindsay...

00:47:02.000 Yeah, he's an American, he's married to an American, and it doesn't matter if you love what he says or hate what he says, It's pretty mild stuff, I've read some of it, but I don't care if he said that Jews were secret goblins that would drink your blood, which of course isn't true. 0.99

00:47:19.000 I don't care if he says white people all need to be, you know, are the demon seed. 0.98

00:47:25.000 I don't, you know, whatever. 0.99

00:47:26.000 If black folks say that whites are evil, that's their right to say it, and I've got a right to say it. 1.00

00:47:33.000 But Zondle, yeah, he's not given fair trials. 0.97

00:47:37.000 They're openly going to put him in prison for his political speech, and it's a very dangerous precedent.

00:47:44.000 They've also arrested a man called Dear Mar Rudolph in Chicago and sent him to Germany.

00:47:53.000 Sir, there was an American citizen that nobody ever talks about.

00:47:56.000 I forget his name.

00:47:57.000 It was about five years ago in Nebraska.

00:47:59.000 And he was a neo-Nazi and he wrote these neo-Nazi tracts denying the Holocaust.

00:48:04.000 And the U.S.

00:48:06.000 government grabbed him and let the Germans take him and I never heard what happened to him.

00:48:13.000 So it's not even just foreigners married to Americans over here that are being taken to Deutschland.

00:48:20.000 I mean, take this woman who's a popular writer in England. 0.52

00:48:23.000 She said, you know, we don't let two men adopt a little girl.

00:48:26.000 Why can't they adopt a little boy?

00:48:28.000 And they're talking about arresting her.

00:48:30.000 I mean, it's just, it's total thought crime.

00:48:33.000 When I was researching Zumwalt again today, I found out that he's now in, well, I knew he was in Germany, But in Mannheim, the judge has now dismissed his defence lawyers.

00:48:47.000 It's phenomenal.

00:48:49.000 David Irvine, another historian, has been arrested in Austria, well I knew that in November, and has been held in Communicado, not even allowed telephone calls.

00:49:00.000 Anybody who... Again, they're setting the precedent.

00:49:03.000 Hey, we're snatching people that are Nazis, or we're snatching people that say 6 million didn't die at Auschwitz, or we're arresting people that... And then see, and then it's, oh, we're arresting Australians on the verge of passing a law where you criticize the government. 0.53

00:49:20.000 During the war, you get 7 years in prison.

00:49:22.000 So see, they're going to put the peaceniks in prison. 1.00

00:49:25.000 Yeah, but something you will know and I don't and I can't find out on the internet or anywhere, Alex, is these people after Waco that were imprisoned I still don't know if they're out of prison.

00:49:38.000 No, they're still in prison, and they were found not guilty in 1994 in San Antonio by Judge Walter Smith's jury.

00:49:46.000 And Walter Smith did something never before done in modern history, and he said, I find you guilty of using firearms in the commission of murder of a federal officer, but they were found not guilty of murdering a federal officer.

00:49:59.000 So, how were they then found guilty of using guns in the murder?

00:50:03.000 And then the Supreme Court, five years ago, no, excuse me, six, late 99, said, release them, and buddy, they didn't release them.

00:50:16.000 So, I'm very close to the Davidians, you know, I know them, I know the case, I'm close to their lawyers, Dick DeGaran and others, and Ramsey Clark.

00:50:25.000 And, uh, it's just, uh, that's what I mean, sir.

00:50:28.000 People just, this isn't new, disappearing into camps.

00:50:32.000 Well, I'm, uh, I'm devoted.

00:50:34.000 I've spent a long time on the internet and different things, uh, against, um, uh, Nazism and, uh, and Socialism. 0.75

00:50:43.000 But it seems that it's always these people who dream up these most appalling, uh, what's the word?

00:50:51.000 I can't even think of the word.

00:50:53.000 To deny people freedom to go in front of it.

00:50:57.000 Well, that's it.

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00:50:58.000 We'll be right back.

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00:55:47.000 I refuse to do it.

00:55:48.000 I'm not going to go do shopping.

00:55:50.000 I'm giving people books and things like that, or little paintings my children have.

00:55:55.000 I've done a lot of evaluation of reach and frequency and things like that.

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00:56:04.000 Let's go to Steve in Houston, then Cal and others.

00:56:07.000 Go ahead, Steve.

00:56:08.000 You're on the air.

00:56:10.000 Good to hear from you, Steve.

00:56:12.000 Hey, I've been in media a lot.

00:56:14.000 I've done a lot of evaluation of reach and frequency and things like that.

00:56:18.000 And I think the problem with the alternative media is they just don't have enough reach.

00:56:22.000 You have to reach 90% of a given demographic with a certain frequency to have any effect.

00:56:29.000 I mean, they know that.

00:56:30.000 They got the big part of the audience, and they literally control their minds, as you well know.

00:56:36.000 Not anymore!

00:56:37.000 They're losing that control.

00:56:39.000 Well, you need more reach.

00:56:41.000 I don't agree with it, and I've been to college with all this stuff, too, and a lot of that science is old paradigm.

00:56:48.000 Look, sir, let me just break this down for you.

00:56:53.000 With a lie, with propaganda, you've got to reapply it on a daily basis.

00:56:57.000 You've got different layers of propaganda for different mindsets, different views, different ways to attack different psychological types.

00:57:05.000 With the truth, it stands on its own.

00:57:07.000 It's explosive.

00:57:09.000 You still have to reach the people.

00:57:12.000 Let's just give up then.

00:57:15.000 We're not giving up.

00:57:17.000 But look at Amy Goodman, for instance.

00:57:18.000 She's got a huge audience. 0.96

00:57:20.000 She won't address 911.

00:57:22.000 Controlled demolition.

00:57:23.000 Just want to point that out.

00:57:24.000 But as I look at the structure of power in the world, I've studied it for years.

00:57:29.000 I see how it works.

00:57:30.000 But there is one way you can vote.

00:57:32.000 You can vote with your feet.

00:57:33.000 You can leave.

00:57:35.000 That's something I'm certainly looking at these days.

00:57:37.000 I'd like to move to a country where freedom is actually legal.

00:57:40.000 Really?

00:57:41.000 Where is that country?

00:57:42.000 This is called a New World Order.

00:57:44.000 I'm thinking just stay ahead of the curve.

00:57:47.000 American countries, things like that.

00:57:49.000 You can't run forever.

00:57:51.000 No, but I can get out of the way.

00:57:53.000 Well, I agree with you.

00:57:54.000 I mean, if it gets bad enough, in particular, I mean, if they're running around arresting us all en masse, but notice they're doing it slowly, then you've either got to fight or evacuate.

00:58:03.000 Well, you have to pay attention and you have to be fast on your feet.

00:58:06.000 I do have one other point I want to address.

00:58:08.000 It's about the new media.

00:58:10.000 It's about the profitability of the new media.

00:58:13.000 It's about... I wish you were... I'd like to see more non-profits.

00:58:18.000 I'd like to see...

00:58:19.000 There are some outlets that have no commercials whatsoever.

00:58:23.000 I'd like to mention one just to shut them up for good.

00:58:26.000 Well, listen, I appreciate your call.

00:58:28.000 Listen, it's always great to get a call and be told what I need to do, but if you've got all the answers, man, you just go do it and I'll support you.

00:58:37.000 Thanks for the call.

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother. Mainstream media.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 We have a medical doctor coming on.

00:59:25.000 He's done a lot of amazing research into autism and not the vaccine connection.

00:59:29.000 I mean, it's conclusive. 0.96

00:59:30.000 It's like, you have somebody shoot you in the head five times with a shotgun slug, you're not going to have a head, you're going to be dead. 0.96

00:59:38.000 It's like, conclusive is being run over by a Mack truck at 80 miles an hour bad for you. 0.95

00:59:45.000 Yes, I wonder if the truck killed him.

00:59:48.000 It's admitted.

00:59:49.000 It is conclusive.

00:59:50.000 We're going to go over that.

00:59:51.000 Take a few more calls right now.

00:59:53.000 Let's go ahead and go to Carl, or not Carl, it's Cal in San Francisco.

00:59:58.000 Go ahead, Cal.

00:59:59.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:00:00.000 Good, sir.

01:00:01.000 Two things.

01:00:02.000 One, you mentioned Alzheimer's and your topic is disease, I guess.

01:00:06.000 And then I want to talk about one other point.

01:00:08.000 But you mentioned Alzheimer's and I guess I've been doing a lot of studying and it just seems like most disease is either deficiencies or toxins.

01:00:17.000 Deficiencies of what you need and toxins introduced to your system and much of like the modern medicine just treats symptoms and doesn't treat the root and in that sense it is sort of a fraud and it doesn't, it just treats symptoms and not cures and you should look to treat the root of the problem.

01:00:33.000 Well no, you're right and what kills us is that we just build up toxins and that helps break down the DNA in our cells until it stops replicating properly and the cells only divide so many times, and there's toxins in the food, there's toxins in the air, also the different rays from space, different types of radiation from the sun, and other radiation generating engines in the universe.

01:01:01.000 That kills us.

01:01:03.000 There's a lot of things that kill us.

01:01:04.000 Right, and it's hard to take action in the big scheme of things, but in the small scheme of things you can buy organic food and not introduce it and support that type of growth.

01:01:14.000 Exactly, then you've got to fight to make sure that the food continues to really be organic.

01:01:18.000 You have to be educated on what those certifications really mean.

01:01:21.000 But I mean, that is a political move in and of itself.

01:01:24.000 It is, and it's happened.

01:01:26.000 People are doing it.

01:01:27.000 What I wanted to talk about is mostly the parties.

01:01:32.000 The Republican and Democrat Party are obviously the same.

01:01:35.000 Is there an anti-globalist party who's willing to basically be a constitutionally conservative party that is active or forming currently?

01:01:44.000 I don't know.

01:01:45.000 No, they're all... I mean, the Libertarians have got some good ideas and some bad.

01:01:49.000 The Constitution Party's pretty good.

01:01:51.000 But, you know, the party system's locked up.

01:01:53.000 I mean, we could start by having the states move to get our senators back.

01:01:59.000 Before, the states' legislatures appointed the senators.

01:02:03.000 They were our creatures.

01:02:04.000 Now they're little imperial dictators.

01:02:06.000 Well, the state's power has just been eroded.

01:02:09.000 Tremendous.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, but see, you get 60% turnout for a national election, but maybe 8% turnout for a local.

01:02:16.000 We have to reverse that.

01:02:18.000 You see, the media tells us to be concerned about the national when most of the power is still at the local.

01:02:25.000 We just allowed them to create that vacuum. 0.99

01:02:29.000 But we've become disempowered from them, and that's just basically a fear of facing your own power.

01:02:35.000 Well, a lot of it is we talk about this stuff all day, and I talk about it too, and education is a big part of it, important.

01:02:41.000 But I actually go down and catch bribery at the Capitol here locally.

01:02:43.000 I actually go fight the City Council and overturn Patriot Acts.

01:02:47.000 I actually stomp around and physically do things.

01:02:50.000 And I physically write legislation and physically get people to pass it.

01:02:54.000 And I'm just one person.

01:02:55.000 I can't do anymore.

01:02:56.000 I mean, really, I've been beating my head up against a wall until I started falling apart, so now I've eased off a little, working only about 10 hours a day lately, and I love it.

01:03:04.000 I just have to decide I can't do it all, but a lot of it is just putting up a website.

01:03:09.000 A lot of it is just writing legislation.

01:03:11.000 A lot of it is just reading legislation, and then pointing it out to people, and then we expose it and fight it.

01:03:16.000 A lot of it is supporting networks, like the Genesis Network, and those are the things we can do.

01:03:24.000 And just put one foot in front of the other.

01:03:25.000 Thanks for the call.

01:03:27.000 Good to hear from you, Cal.

01:03:28.000 And you know, a lot of it is what you're doing, Cal.

01:03:30.000 It's debating and talking about what solutions are and what we can do.

01:03:36.000 That's much of the battle right there.

01:03:39.000 Pat and Nathan and David and many others, your calls are coming up, too.

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01:08:07.000 But this happens every once in a while with guests.

01:08:08.000 this is a doctor Eisenstein he uh...

01:08:15.000 we might have gotten time zone screwed up with him or something Professionals are always quirky.

01:08:20.000 You get some congressmen coming on, they come on right on time.

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01:08:30.000 Because they're very busy.

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01:08:36.000 You know what I ought to do is just go over this UPI article.

01:08:42.000 A lot of times I just get gasped on because that forces me to cover a particular topic in detail because I have a tendency to cover a whole bunch of stuff.

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01:09:00.000 But it's a fair piece from the horse and buggies of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to the cars and freeways of Cook County, Illinois.

01:09:15.000 But thousands of children cared for by Home First Health Services in metropolitan Chicago have at least two things in common with thousands of Amish children in rural Lancaster.

01:09:27.000 They have never been vaccinated and they don't have autism.

01:09:31.000 We have a fairly large practice.

01:09:32.000 We have about 30,000 to 35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years.

01:09:37.000 I don't think we've had a single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received vaccines, said Dr. Mayor Eisenstein.

01:09:47.000 Home First Medical Director who founded the practice in 1973.

01:09:51.000 Home First doctors have delivered more than 15,000 babies at home and thousands of them have never been vaccinated.

01:09:58.000 The few autistic children Home First sees were vaccinated before their families became patients.

01:10:04.000 Eisenstein said, I think that of the two or three autistic children who we've delivered their mother's next baby, we weren't and aren't really totally taking care of that child.

01:10:14.000 They have special care needs, but they bring the younger children to us.

01:10:18.000 I don't have a single case that I can think of that wasn't vaccinated.

01:10:23.000 The autism rate in Illinois public schools is 38 per 10,000 according to State Education Department data.

01:10:29.000 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention puts the national rate of autism, and it gets worse every year, autism spectrum disorders at 1 in 166, 60 per 10,000.

01:10:37.000 One in 166, 60 per 10,000.

01:10:43.000 So one out of 166, or 60 per 10,000.

01:10:49.000 And I've had arguments with some medical doctors about this.

01:10:52.000 They go, well, that's over-reporting.

01:10:55.000 You don't go from 1 in 24,000 20 years ago to 1 out of 166 from over-reporting.

01:11:05.000 I mean, my mother said growing up, you never saw what you see everywhere now.

01:11:10.000 Children sitting there at the park nodding and looking up their fingers.

01:11:15.000 I mean, they're everywhere.

01:11:16.000 I mean, you go to the shopping mall, you go to Target, you walk down the street, there's just autistic children everywhere.

01:11:23.000 And at public schools they report, you know, you'll have a public school of, say a high school of a thousand kids, and they'll have a whole room of autistic kids.

01:11:33.000 Sometimes they'll have multiple rooms.

01:11:35.000 And it's getting worse.

01:11:38.000 And then you look at what, quote, autism is, it's the exact same symptoms registered hundreds of years ago, and fifty years ago, and a year ago, and all these big studies of mercury brain damage.

01:11:49.000 Mercury induced brain damage.

01:11:51.000 It's exactly what mercury does is totally chew up your cerebral cortex.

01:11:59.000 And lo and behold, it's in the children that have been vaccinated.

01:12:02.000 Oh, you give someone hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.

01:12:05.000 They have flu shots now that have 250 times the safe level in one shot.

01:12:12.000 And then you hear on the news, we've taken the mercury out.

01:12:15.000 And then you go read the inserts, they've increased it.

01:12:17.000 See?

01:12:19.000 You start waking up and something's happening?

01:12:21.000 They just lie!

01:12:23.000 Now, the truth is, your doctor can order, and some clinics may have, the non-mercury based vaccine.

01:12:34.000 But, they're manufactured in small lots, and they're hard to get.

01:12:38.000 See, it's all total lies.

01:12:40.000 It's all total lies.

01:12:43.000 And I know most of our audience knows about this, but the magnitude of the cover-up, and then it's not debatable.

01:12:48.000 Again, we have the CDC documents that came out two years ago, ABC News.

01:12:53.000 I was shocked.

01:12:55.000 We did report on it.

01:12:56.000 Dan Burton's committee, because he's got a very autistic grandson.

01:13:00.000 And Congressman Burton, these guys may take money, and they may take, you know, be good old boys, and may be involved in all this corruption, which Dan Burton clearly isn't, but I'm saying Congressman on average.

01:13:09.000 But, you know, still, even if you're a globalist, My grandson, his grandson was 18 months old, giggling, running around, laughing, talking.

01:13:18.000 He got his next round of shots and his grandson, we've interviewed him by the way, was gone.

01:13:23.000 And he's still today, extremely autistic. 0.80

01:13:26.000 Went and got his shots, had a little convulsion, and Johnny's gone.

01:13:32.000 And he isn't coming back.

01:13:35.000 Because stuff built up to a certain point and just started eating brain cells, that's what it does.

01:13:40.000 You see, mercury has an electrochemical response.

01:13:43.000 We put clips from major medical centers and major universities up of very low level amounts of mercury in human brain tissue samples or other mammalian brain tissue samples.

01:13:55.000 And you can watch it.

01:13:56.000 They have different electron microscope videos of other heavy metals that might damage or damage a few.

01:14:05.000 The weird thing about mercury is with the electrochemical response, somehow the, somehow the response in the enzymes, that one little globbit of, you know, that tiny molecule of mercury hits one cell, and it literally fries and shorts out and explodes, and then into that vacuum, the mercury just moves up against another cell, and just moves up another.

01:14:27.000 Lead and things like that, Do settle in the tissues, but it just kills brain cells around it, and then you get a plaque of dead cells, and it does cause problems.

01:14:42.000 Most of people getting senile or dementia, it's just at a certain level, it's not even a blood flow problem.

01:14:48.000 A lot of studies are showing, it's just there's so much aluminum, so much mercury, so much lead, so much arsenic, so much, it's like a filter you've got in your You know, for your water, say, in your refrigerator, when you finally pull that thing out, it stinks, it's all black.

01:15:05.000 Well, your brain is 74% water, and the rest is just a couple percent blood mass, you know, the capillaries in the tissue, and the rest is cholesterol.

01:15:18.000 It's actually like an oil-based computer.

01:15:21.000 It's an oily mass, an oily, watery, pinkish-purple, we call it the gray matter in dead brains.

01:15:30.000 I'm sorry, I'm going off the deep end here, but I want to get you to visualize what's happening.

01:15:37.000 Okay?

01:15:38.000 I want you to visualize what's going on.

01:15:41.000 What that mercury put into the bloodstream does, hitting the brain, and it hurts, buries the brain all over.

01:15:49.000 You know, upper and lower brain and different structures of the brain, but where it really has the most cognitive effects you can see immediately, and just motor skills, everything, is in the frontal lobes of the brain, the cerebral cortex, or the operating system of this electrochemical, oil-based, God-designed computer.

01:16:13.000 And it just hits it.

01:16:15.000 It just goes into there and just starts eating.

01:16:18.000 That's why your child, they just get more and more autistic.

01:16:23.000 He was running around at 18 months.

01:16:25.000 That's usually when it hits, when it builds up.

01:16:26.000 Happy, happy, giggling, laughing, having a great time.

01:16:30.000 And then now he's 12 and he has less skills than he did when he was 18 months old.

01:16:35.000 Why is it getting worse?

01:16:36.000 Why isn't it getting better?

01:16:37.000 Because that stuff is just in there, one cell after the next, gobbling.

01:16:44.000 Anyways, the CDC It was their own corporate minutes, and Dan Burton, they wouldn't let him have all these documents, so he actually, with a congressional order, had a raid.

01:16:58.000 And it was a raid with guys in clipboards, and backed up by guys with guns.

01:17:03.000 And they actually went in and got all the documents, and the stuff they released was, this is brain damage millions.

01:17:10.000 I'm not going to give my granddaughter that.

01:17:12.000 Well, I'll tell you this, I've read it so many times on there, I've got to memorize, I'll tell you this, we can't let this get out.

01:17:17.000 This will ruin us.

01:17:19.000 But see, that's just the CDC, the bureaucrats that didn't really know what was going on.

01:17:24.000 The drug companies knew exactly what they were doing.

01:17:28.000 There's a bunch of other preservatives they had that wouldn't cause problems, but see, it's a design plan.

01:17:35.000 And then you look at what else is in those vaccines.

01:17:39.000 Cancer viruses, things that are crossed between a bacteria and a virus, microplasms, all sorts of other bizarre engineered things that they found.

01:17:53.000 And again, Nobel Prize winners in epidemiology have reported this.

01:17:59.000 It's all over Indian news, all over African news. 0.98

01:18:03.000 I mean, even the ignorant villagers who have no education or are smarter than Americans, they literally run from the U.N. 0.99

01:18:09.000 in the shot, screaming. 1.00

01:18:12.000 And 30, 40 years ago, the Africans would bow down and beg to have the white witch doctor give their kid a shot. 0.94

01:18:18.000 I mean, they thought it was big medicine.

01:18:19.000 They figured it out.

01:18:19.000 They loved it.

01:18:21.000 I mean, they literally, whole villages run, and troops chase them down and hold them down, and then they will even hack their children's arms off, which of course is too late, to try to save them.

01:18:30.000 I mean, that's how afraid they are. 0.98

01:18:33.000 And there's all these dumb little human workers. 1.00

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01:18:38.000 I'm here to help you, these poor, ignorant savages. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Don't... The Nobel Prize winners who wouldn't look at this. 1.00

01:18:43.000 We are noticing three different cancer viruses in here and a sterilization agent.

01:18:47.000 This is an absolute world health organization extermination program.

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01:22:48.000 And this big four-page article, the latest in a long series by UPI's medical writers, and then it gets into Amish all over the country, and just hundreds of thousands of them, and there are no children with autism.

01:23:18.000 Again, autism was unknown.

01:23:22.000 It was unknown.

01:23:23.000 It didn't exist. 0.99

01:23:25.000 Uh, there might be maybe one out of a couple million people, and they'd call them idiot savants, but they didn't sit there twiddling their fingers in front of their face. 0.93

01:23:32.000 They would just be very quiet and introverted, and then... and then at the same time, but, you know, suddenly know incredible mathematics or incredible music. 0.96

01:23:39.000 That's different, and it was... it was just... A major city might have one or two of these people.

01:23:45.000 A city of millions, maybe.

01:23:47.000 Now, whole classrooms at every major school.

01:23:51.000 And it's just gonna continue.

01:23:53.000 They increase the mercury.

01:23:56.000 We're going to go to Nathan and David and many, many others that are patiently holding.

01:24:03.000 Let's just go to... I tell you, these callers are masters, masters of hanging up right when I'm going to them.

01:24:11.000 That's what's happening lately.

01:24:12.000 Okay, Nathan, we're not going to go to you then.

01:24:14.000 You're gone.

01:24:15.000 David.

01:24:16.000 David, where are you calling us from?

01:24:18.000 Victorville, California.

01:24:19.000 Welcome, sir.

01:24:21.000 How's it going, Alex?

01:24:22.000 Good.

01:24:23.000 God bless you.

01:24:24.000 Hey, I wanted to give a different spin, if I could, on this whole Constitution is a piece of paper trash and so forth.

01:24:33.000 Yeah, I'm always saying it's a GD piece of paper. 0.99

01:24:36.000 Exactly. 0.80

01:24:36.000 You know, I don't think you... You don't become a senator, you don't become a legislator, you don't become president without knowing that the Constitution is trash anyway. 0.80

01:24:48.000 You know, these people were quite skilled in knowing that You know, the Federal Reserve, basically, the world bankers have taken over this country and made us all slaves.

01:25:00.000 Oh yeah, they all know that, and he's just being honest with them, and that's why he's telling them, don't give me this, this is just a piece of G.D. 0.96

01:25:06.000 paper, it means nothing, just get the trash out of my face, America's gone! 0.99

01:25:11.000 Exactly, but the point that I think that the Capitol Hill Blue article was making was that In some semblance, it's designed to make people think that we still have a Constitution.

01:25:27.000 Not to question the fact that the final nail in the coffin was in March of 1930, with basically the recent middle and confirmation and total acceptance of the War Powers Act and the Trading with the Enemies Act.

01:25:50.000 of 1917, making us all enemies of the state.

01:25:54.000 Do you understand the point that I'm trying to make?

01:25:58.000 I see your point, but let me add this little addendum.

01:26:02.000 I understand, and it's good to face the fact that they're totally violating it and that they're totally disregarding it, but at the same time, I don't want to capitulate and say it's dead just because they're operating as if it isn't dead.

01:26:19.000 Well, let me just finish.

01:26:21.000 Just because they come out And, you know, in 1913 they declared martial law, they declared war powers, they declared this country a holding under admiralty law by a private corporation, similar to what the British East India Company did with all of India, under license from Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth.

01:26:41.000 So, expanding on that, it's taken them 70 years, 73 years to get us to this point. 0.98

01:26:48.000 It's like they announced we can secretly arrest citizens and secretly torture them and kill them. 0.99

01:26:53.000 Well, let's see them try to have the nerve to do it en masse. 1.00

01:26:56.000 Let's see them try to implement.

01:26:58.000 We're going to fight it.

01:26:59.000 We're going to expose them.

01:27:00.000 We're not going to go along with it.

01:27:01.000 So, yes, are they declaring we're their slaves?

01:27:04.000 Are they declaring we have no rights?

01:27:05.000 Are they trying to openly push martial law?

01:27:08.000 Yes!

01:27:08.000 But I have an organic, God-given right to say no to it, and the Bill of Rights and Constitution does not give me my rights.

01:27:15.000 It simply notes them and codifies it as rules for the government to make them follow that as a law of man.

01:27:25.000 And so, yes, we can say, well, it doesn't really matter because, you know, it is just a piece of paper now.

01:27:31.000 But, see, that is an illustration for the people that still don't know these crooks have been in total violation of it for 70 plus years.

01:27:39.000 No, and there's nothing that you said that I would disagree with.

01:27:42.000 I think my point really is the fact that, you know, we know that there's so many people that are just asleep at the wheel.

01:27:51.000 You know, you can't even talk to your average Joe on the street.

01:27:57.000 They'll say, I got ruts, I got ruts, and you'll go, okay, what are your ruts?

01:28:01.000 I don't know, something, George Washington, wasn't he?

01:28:05.000 Who was he?

01:28:06.000 You know, that's exactly the point.

01:28:09.000 That's so true.

01:28:11.000 You can't explain to people that, you know, your rights are gone, but they're only gone if you let them be gone.

01:28:21.000 Exactly so.

01:28:22.000 So the only thing that gives orders in this world is will.

01:28:26.000 Tony Montana said it different than Scarface, but it's true. 0.81

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01:28:31.000 Hey, thanks for the call.

01:28:32.000 Great call there.

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01:31:53.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

01:32:00.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:32:02.000 I'm going to get into the big announcement that, oh, guess what?

01:32:22.000 The military and the FBI and everybody really have been watching you without warrants even before we passed the Patriot Act.

01:32:31.000 Because the President, according to the Attorney General, is the law.

01:32:35.000 He is.

01:32:36.000 He is literally God Emperor.

01:32:40.000 I mean, that's what Alberto Gonzales says.

01:32:42.000 And I guess if you've got enough men with enough guns that will follow your orders, I guess it's true.

01:32:50.000 Bush is our Caesar!

01:32:52.000 Our King! 1.00

01:32:54.000 Our anti-gun, pro-open border, UN-loving, piece of trash, puppet. 1.00

01:33:01.000 But so what? 1.00

01:33:03.000 Let's go ahead and go back to the calls.

01:33:06.000 Nathan is back.

01:33:08.000 He got at the end of the line, but I'm going to go to him first because he was already in the queue there.

01:33:13.000 Then we'll go to Kenny and Judy and David and James and others.

01:33:16.000 Nathan in Austin, Texas.

01:33:17.000 Go ahead, Nathan.

01:33:19.000 Nathaniel?

01:33:21.000 Or Nathan?

01:33:22.000 We'll just call you Keebler.

01:33:24.000 How's that sound?

01:33:25.000 Hey, that'll work.

01:33:27.000 What's on your mind, Nathaniel?

01:33:29.000 Hey, Alex, did you hear anything about what was going on in Gonzales?

01:33:34.000 Yes, I heard.

01:33:35.000 David Byrd, you've got a buddy down there that helped sink into Bohemian Grove with you down there, right?

01:33:42.000 That helps run the radio station down there?

01:33:46.000 I didn't know about him running a radio station, but... Well, he's got you in Gonzales.

01:33:51.000 He's running your program on 101.3.

01:33:53.000 Do you live down in Gonzales, sir?

01:33:58.000 I'm from there originally.

01:33:59.000 Okay.

01:34:01.000 What else is on... What can I do for you?

01:34:03.000 They're trying to raise some opposition against the trans-corridor thing.

01:34:10.000 And they had a meeting at Rogers Pizza down there, and I just got through talking to my dad, who still lives down there, and he just doesn't get it.

01:34:19.000 They haven't tried to purchase this property yet, and they don't know where the proposed corridor is going to go through.

01:34:26.000 It's like, he's not going to get involved.

01:34:30.000 So I guess until they knock on his door and ask for his guns or take his land from him, he's just not going to get it.

01:34:39.000 Well, even then, if Rick Perry's for it, he'll probably just give them his land and worship world government.

01:34:43.000 That's the conservative thing to do.

01:34:45.000 The candidate down there, I think the guy's name is, last name is Stark, that's running for the Texas, I don't know if it's... Senate.

01:34:53.000 Congress.

01:34:55.000 Yeah, I don't really, I mean, your call's fine, but you said, do I know about it?

01:34:59.000 And I tried to get into what's the fight, what's happening, and then you started talking, and then you said, do you know who's running, and I can I can tell you all about it if you'd like.

01:35:07.000 I'm just, I'm confused.

01:35:08.000 Are these like questions you want me to answer after you're gone or are these questions?

01:35:11.000 I'm confused.

01:35:12.000 Well, I was just curious if you knew about what was going down on there and I'm saying I'm trying to get some local opposition down there with my parents and my family down there and they just don't get it.

01:35:26.000 It's like until the new world order knocks on your door and takes your guns or takes your land, it ain't happening.

01:35:32.000 Okay, so now I understand.

01:35:34.000 You were making a statement and then you wanted me to answer you.

01:35:36.000 I just sounded like a kind of bumbling a bit there because I was trying to figure out exactly what you wanted me to answer for you.

01:35:42.000 Thank you for the call.

01:35:46.000 Now, let me try to break this down.

01:35:49.000 This is a whole other subject.

01:35:50.000 That's the thing about taking calls.

01:35:52.000 They bring up all these great points, but each question is or each comment is a huge, huge, huge subject.

01:36:02.000 What is Agenda 21?

01:36:04.000 Agenda 21 is a United Nations global blueprint, or game plan, or manifesto.

01:36:14.000 It's literally a city plan for the planet.

01:36:18.000 It's a blueprint.

01:36:20.000 And it means you're going to be in compact cities, you're going to have your private property taken, everything you use is going to be regulated and controlled, your kids are going to be forced onto drugs, and now you see new freedom.

01:36:28.000 Everything the government does Because according to UN treaties, see when Bush signed back onto UNESCO, they literally then instruct the Department of Education on what to put into the curriculum.

01:36:40.000 I mean, it's control down to how many gallons your toilet has.

01:36:47.000 It's treaties down to what type of cooling system your air conditioner has.

01:36:54.000 It's treaties down to just everything in our daily lives.

01:37:01.000 And their open plan is to go back to serfdom. 0.57

01:37:04.000 Go back to feudalism.

01:37:07.000 With the smaller reduced population that they allow to continue.

01:37:14.000 With the elites in what they call technological spires.

01:37:20.000 And literally you're in these armored national security, global security, inner sanctum cities that are Going to be built out in the countryside and in secure locations and have already been built in some cities.

01:37:40.000 In these federal and international zones, you're going to have the advanced technologies.

01:37:45.000 You're going to have the high-quality, super advanced medical care.

01:37:49.000 You're going to have the life extension technologies.

01:37:52.000 I never said live forever.

01:37:55.000 That's their goal.

01:37:55.000 Obviously, they won't attain it, but drastically extend life.

01:38:00.000 I've talked a lot about this in years past, people couldn't believe it.

01:38:03.000 Now it's in mainstream big publications, big financial publications are going, oh yes, in the future, it was a Wall Street Journal article a few weeks ago, only the rich will get the $100 million healthcare.

01:38:16.000 I mean, we're talking just incredible stuff that's already here.

01:38:21.000 So, that's happening.

01:38:24.000 And then we'll be outside of that.

01:38:27.000 We'll be in these totally controlled police state zones.

01:38:30.000 And you go, what does that have to do with this question about Gonzales County?

01:38:34.000 A whole bunch of Texas counties.

01:38:37.000 What is it?

01:38:38.000 Fifteen?

01:38:39.000 I saw the number the other day in a publication, but it's quite a few Texas counties, and that sounds a lot.

01:38:45.000 I mean, there's a lot of states that only have, you know, six or seven counties.

01:38:48.000 Texas has just, I forget, it's a ridiculous amount.

01:38:52.000 So, fifteen is a minority, but a large minority, and it's all in South Texas.

01:39:01.000 But with Texas, this is the start of the Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:39:06.000 And you look at the official corridor maps that we've posted from their official documents on InfoWars.com.

01:39:12.000 We had Bob Dacey in here a few weeks ago, a local writer who also writes for the New American Magazine.

01:39:18.000 He wrote a big cover story for them.

01:39:20.000 And he was here with us in studio talking about that.

01:39:24.000 And off their own maps, there are roads Hundreds of them, criss-crossing the entire country, but the big one, the big one, that is, what, 15 lanes on each side, railways, passenger trains, security checkpoints, only 5 lanes for cars on each side.

01:39:47.000 With this big trans-Texas corridor, they are going to build walls on each side of it and not let you exit And these are on existing roads, by the way.

01:39:57.000 They're just going to expand existing roads.

01:39:59.000 They're not going to let you exit onto the literal just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of little towns.

01:40:06.000 This was the official plan.

01:40:08.000 And that's part of Agenda 21.

01:40:10.000 You look at the congressionally produced maps of official UN biospheres and World Heritage sites with existing other federal lands and their official plans.

01:40:23.000 Over 90% of the country is restricted use.

01:40:26.000 About half of it is total human restriction.

01:40:29.000 No humans will be allowed. 0.69

01:40:31.000 And then I've got National Geographic.

01:40:33.000 I open it up and it shows UN troops off in some Asian country, where it says if you go into the UN forest, they shoot you.

01:40:39.000 And oh, in Burma, they killed 4,000 of the natives who refused to leave the land to create a UN biosphere. 0.96

01:40:46.000 It actually killed the natives.

01:40:47.000 In London Guardian, major publications.

01:40:54.000 And acting like it's kind of good.

01:40:55.000 Oh, look for the earth.

01:40:56.000 I mean, it's actually the London Guardian.

01:40:58.000 You and troops exterminating.

01:41:00.000 Well, so you think it's a joke.

01:41:02.000 This is feudalism.

01:41:03.000 Go look up feudalism in the encyclopedias.

01:41:05.000 I'm trying to cover something that literally you can have a five year college course on this.

01:41:10.000 I mean, it's just just on this one subject of feudalism and social control and mercantilism and all of this.

01:41:22.000 But you bring this up, you bring up the Trans-Texas Corridor, the exciting thing is that, I think it's Stahl for Congress, that you were mentioning, that a whole bunch of towns have passed resolutions, strong resolutions, but you're mentioning how your family still doesn't know what's going on.

01:41:41.000 Well all these good old boys, all these boss hogs in these towns, They do realize their towns are going to be ghost towns. 1.00

01:41:48.000 They do realize all the land they've bought up over the years, a lot of them are pretty corrupt.

01:41:55.000 But not corrupt in the big, you know, centralized, mechanized, evil way.

01:42:00.000 They're knowing it's going to ruin their family holdings.

01:42:02.000 It's going to ruin everything their families have built.

01:42:04.000 So all the good old boys, all the people that run the towns, are pulling out en masse.

01:42:10.000 What is it, 15 towns did it, another 5 or 6 are about to pass it, and it's spreading all over.

01:42:15.000 Everywhere this corridor is coming through, I-35 and surrounding capillaries, and then see that dovetails in with Rick Perry, Where he officially said 6,000 miles of toll roads in Texas.

01:42:26.000 Now the whole country has 7,000 miles.

01:42:27.000 We'll see 4,000 of those are every major Texas highway.

01:42:31.000 Every state road.

01:42:33.000 Every state road will have sections on it that are tolls.

01:42:37.000 There'll be, what was it, 18 toll roads in Austin alone and Travis County in the official first phase plan.

01:42:45.000 Okay.

01:42:46.000 And so they've got that.

01:42:50.000 And then you'll have 2,000 miles of toll roads within the cities of Texas, and that'll be a transponder in your inspection sticker that will do that.

01:43:00.000 And a big Spanish company is building the roads and building the expansions, and then is going to administer all of this.

01:43:07.000 And of course, King Juan Carlos is the big head honcho, a large owner of stock in that company.

01:43:15.000 So we'll actually be paying tolls to use our own roads to the Spanish King.

01:43:20.000 I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.

01:43:22.000 Everything goes in circles, they say.

01:43:24.000 We're right back to Spain.

01:43:26.000 My family's got their Spanish land grant.

01:43:28.000 I'll never forget that family Bible in a safety deposit box.

01:43:31.000 My dad took it home one time and let me see it.

01:43:34.000 From His Majesty the King of Spain.

01:43:38.000 I forget, was it the Johnsons or the Joneses or the Browns that originally got our land?

01:43:42.000 I don't know anymore.

01:43:43.000 I was probably ten years old when I saw that and my dad told me about it.

01:43:46.000 But the point is, I guess, I mean, Never really got it from you, your majesty.

01:43:50.000 Thank you, your lordship.

01:43:53.000 Your supreme leader.

01:43:54.000 I mean, it's just, it's just, it's going back to feudalism.

01:43:58.000 That's the official plan.

01:44:02.000 And that's what's happening.

01:44:04.000 The original green space is in England.

01:44:06.000 You fly over England, there's all these cities, all totally compact.

01:44:10.000 People jammed in, in a little bitty house.

01:44:12.000 You know, five hundred thousand pounds.

01:44:14.000 Little three bedroom.

01:44:16.000 But then, Almost the entire country is owned by the nobles and the queen and she doesn't allow billboards up, she doesn't allow people to use the land. 0.79

01:44:26.000 Feudalism is a tool of control.

01:44:28.000 It's a limited siege against the population by government to keep you dependent on the land under their control that you don't own.

01:44:37.000 You're basically sharecroppers.

01:44:40.000 And they are going to block off every major road. 0.94

01:44:43.000 They are going to kill every major town nationwide.

01:44:46.000 You wonder how they're going to do it? 0.97

01:44:47.000 They just do it.

01:44:48.000 They don't care.

01:44:49.000 They just build a wall where you cannot exit.

01:44:51.000 And the best example of this I've seen, and I want everybody who lives in Texas or Kansas or those areas, when you drive out of Oklahoma and you're driving up through Oklahoma up into Kansas, there are hundreds of miles of toll roads right there.

01:45:04.000 You've all been on them.

01:45:05.000 You will drive.

01:45:06.000 We timed it.

01:45:06.000 We even shot video in the car three years ago when I went to Kansas City.

01:45:11.000 for a big event up there at KCXL.

01:45:14.000 And I even shot the...

01:45:17.000 Pardon me?

01:45:18.000 Oh, we have our guests now.

01:45:20.000 Anyways, we'll go to them in just a minute then.

01:45:23.000 Thank you.

01:45:24.000 And so we're driving up there, and we drive 45 miles without being able to exit, and I was trying to look over the walls.

01:45:34.000 Usually the walls are about 8 feet high, 10 feet high so you couldn't see but sometimes they get low and I go, look at all those Victorian houses, look at that town, look at all those businesses, that's all dead.

01:45:43.000 Get video of it quick.

01:45:44.000 Well we can't stop because there's not even shoulders and then every 10 miles or so there's a big McDonald's and a gas station in the middle of the road.

01:45:51.000 Folks, that is the official plan.

01:45:54.000 The entire country And it gets into the biospheres and the use of land and all of this.

01:46:00.000 And so the good news is, is that you say your family in Gonzales doesn't know their head from a hole in the ground, well just welcome to the party.

01:46:08.000 But, believe me, the boss hogs do. 1.00

01:46:10.000 The boss hogs are on our side. 1.00

01:46:12.000 They're going, you going to make my land wordless, boy?

01:46:14.000 No you're not.

01:46:15.000 We ain't going to have no U.N.

01:46:16.000 road around here.

01:46:17.000 It's just, you're going to have major problems, New World Order.

01:46:22.000 I mean, you just haven't figured it out yet.

01:46:24.000 See, that's where separation of powers comes in that the Founding Fathers talked about.

01:46:29.000 The beauty of it is that it actually looked for corruption to fight corruption, see?

01:46:34.000 You want gridlock. 0.97

01:46:36.000 You don't want the skids greased.

01:46:37.000 Or you get a Hitler. 0.89

01:46:38.000 You get a Napoleon.

01:46:40.000 You get a Bismarck. 0.72

01:46:42.000 Okay.

01:46:43.000 Somehow we got our wires crossed, and he's a medical doctor, and we're honored to have him.

01:46:46.000 We'll just have him for a little while, because we've got another guest coming up, but if I can keep him about Ten or fifteen minutes, that'd be great.

01:46:53.000 No autism for unvaccinated Amish. 0.88

01:46:55.000 The age of autism, a pretty big secret.

01:46:57.000 And in this other big article out of United Press International, they have another story here, or another section, getting into this particular clinic and this particular doctor who has just seen tens of thousands of people, and if they don't

01:47:21.000 ...have the shots, then they don't get the autism.

01:47:29.000 And I'm honored to have Dr. Eisenstein join us.

01:47:32.000 Doctor, thanks for coming on with us.

01:47:34.000 Oh, my absolute pleasure.

01:47:35.000 You know, let me just modify that a little bit, you know, that we haven't had any cases that we've taken care of.

01:47:43.000 It's possible that they've gone somewhere else.

01:47:45.000 You know, although we have cases of cancer and appendicitis and diabetes, So, it's unlikely that every case of autism went somewhere else.

01:47:55.000 Well, the point is, is that statistically, there's, you know, we've gone from 1 in 20-something thousand kids having it 20 years ago to 1 in 166, and we know that mercury does this, and it causes this in the brain.

01:48:08.000 I mean, it's, we have the, did you see the CDC's own documents that got released two years ago?

01:48:12.000 Yes, I did.

01:48:13.000 Where they were admitting this internally?

01:48:15.000 Well, I could tell you even something better, you know.

01:48:19.000 I don't, there's no doubt that doctors were not poor 20 years ago in making diagnoses.

01:48:25.000 I mean, I've been a practitioner for 30 years and autistic children are a very sad case because you do not miss them. 1.00

01:48:31.000 You walk into the exam room and they won't look at you, they won't talk to you.

01:48:35.000 You know, it's not like any other children you've ever seen.

01:48:39.000 But one of the biggest proponents of childhood vaccines is, and his name slips my mind right now, is a doctor who owns patents on two or three of the vaccines and he's a pediatric infectious disease specialist.

01:48:55.000 The name will come to me.

01:48:56.000 I have it in my book.

01:48:57.000 And he said the immune system is so phenomenal that you can even give 10,000 vaccines at one time and not cause any problems.

01:49:07.000 And well, you know, I accept that.

01:49:09.000 He gets paid by the, you know, I say accepted, you know, that's his opinion.

01:49:13.000 He gets paid by the drug companies.

01:49:15.000 Interesting enough, When the President talked about all doctors and first-line treating people be treated with the smallpox vaccine, he refused to get it.

01:49:30.000 He said it was too dangerous.

01:49:32.000 I found that very interesting that here's a guy who says we can handle 10,000 vaccines at one time.

01:49:38.000 And he's not willing to give, to take, himself.

01:49:40.000 Which, I don't disagree with that.

01:49:42.000 I'll tell you what, doctor, stay there, because I remember when that happened.

01:49:45.000 Tommy Thompson wouldn't take it.

01:49:46.000 Stay there.

01:49:47.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:53.000 We're talking to Dr. Mayor Eisenstein, MD, JD, MPH, graduate of University of Illinois Medical School, the Medical College of Wisconsin School of Public Health and the John Marshall Law School.

01:53:20.000 In his 33 years in medicine, he and his practice have cared for over 75,000 patients, grandparents, and children.

01:53:27.000 And yeah, we've gone from 1 in 20-something thousand children having autism to 1 in 166.

01:53:33.000 The new numbers show it may even be higher!

01:53:36.000 I mean, every year!

01:53:38.000 And they've actually increased the marisol in some vaccines.

01:53:41.000 There's a lot of other problems in there, too.

01:53:43.000 And you mentioned how one of the big drug company doctors that pushes all this, I remember that was in the news, wouldn't take the smallpox himself.

01:53:51.000 Neither would Tommy Thompson.

01:53:53.000 And I saw that 99 plus percent of medical workers in the LA Times reported nationwide refused.

01:54:00.000 So what do they know we don't know, Doctor?

01:54:02.000 You know, when it comes to injecting into somebody else, like children, They have less concern, but all of a sudden, giving it to themselves, they start saying, hey, wait a minute, you know, when we inject vaccines into children, doctors say, you know, you're being neglect and neglectful parents if you don't do it.

01:54:20.000 But take it themselves, they start saying, oh, wait a minute, maybe those stories are true, that there's side effects to these vaccines.

01:54:27.000 Now, folks, I want you to know his medical dossier is 14 feet long.

01:54:32.000 I mean, Certified National Board of Medical Examiners, American Board of Public Health and Preventative... He just goes on and on for hours, and I tried to cover all this.

01:54:40.000 You've also written an award-winning book.

01:54:43.000 Tell us about that.

01:54:44.000 Well, I wrote a book on vaccines.

01:54:47.000 I got very interested in doing it when I was in law school.

01:54:51.000 And the book, it's called Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate.

01:54:55.000 It's not meant to tell people not to vaccinate.

01:54:58.000 It's meant for people to kind of educate themselves that there are risks and benefits.

01:55:03.000 And as we tell every family that comes to us, we do not have a position that vaccines are wrong.

01:55:09.000 We have a position that there are two sides to the story, and we aren't sure yet what the...

01:55:14.000 Well, I'm sure vaccines would be fine if the companies weren't being given total liability protection and didn't have such a bizarre track record of even putting other weird stuff in it, like cancer viruses.

01:55:28.000 Wouldn't you love to be in a business where you get immunity from prosecution and make billions of dollars?

01:55:33.000 What a business!

01:55:34.000 I love it!

01:55:35.000 You know, I mean, it's interesting.

01:55:37.000 We value the vaccines in this country more than we do our physicians.

01:55:41.000 Well, maybe our physicians aren't any good, You know, maybe that's the feeling of the public, but I find it interesting that we sue physicians, but yet the drug companies have immunity.

01:55:50.000 It makes no sense.

01:55:51.000 Makes absolutely no sense.

01:55:52.000 And now they're trying to get total immunity.

01:55:55.000 Exactly.

01:55:56.000 That's because there's a military industrial complex agenda behind it, and it's a strategic initiative, so all doors are open.

01:56:03.000 Well, Doctor, what about the new Amish numbers coming in?

01:56:06.000 That's been looked at.

01:56:08.000 Not just your non-scientific analysis, as you call it yourself, but there have been other studies as well, showing in countries where they don't vaccinate, you don't have autism.

01:56:17.000 I think the data is clearly showing that there's, well, you know, it's funny to say no autism, clearly much lower rate.

01:56:26.000 Okay, 99% lower.

01:56:26.000 Right, I'll accept that, you know.

01:56:28.000 I mean, it's more than that, it's also all these autoimmune diseases, chronic fatigue syndrome, diabetes, childhood diabetes, all these numbers are escalating.

01:56:37.000 You know, and rheumatoid arthritis in children, things that we never saw 25 or 30 years ago, and the only thing I could see majorly different in our society We've gone from giving a couple of vaccines to 15 and 20 a year to our children in the first two years of life.

01:56:56.000 Well, I tell you, sir, we've got a break here.

01:56:58.000 I don't want to keep you for two more short little segments.

01:57:00.000 We have another guest coming on to give us an update on the martial law police state.

01:57:03.000 But I've got your book here in front of me and it's impressive stuff.

01:57:09.000 I think I'd like to carry it in my little online bookstore because We want to warn people, and I want to get more into some of the dangers when we get back, of vaccines, ladies and gentlemen.

01:57:22.000 Again, why wouldn't the doctors take the smallpox injection? 0.99

01:57:27.000 Because they're not as stupid as they act like they are. 1.00

01:57:29.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 We've got just a couple more little segments here with a man I want to have back on in the future for a longer interview.

01:58:14.000 And, uh, he's Dr. Eisenstein, MD, JD, MHD.

01:58:19.000 He's got the book, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate.

01:58:23.000 We were just talking about how, and I've looked at the numbers, countries where they don't vaccinate, it's, it's, I mean, autism is incredibly rare.

01:58:30.000 It's, it's about 99% less frequent than it is here.

01:58:34.000 And our numbers just get more and more insane.

01:58:38.000 And Doctor, you mentioned the people who go, oh, well, it's over-diagnosis.

01:58:44.000 I know medical doctors, I have medical doctors in my family who are still in denial.

01:58:50.000 They go, well, there's some problems.

01:58:51.000 Well, it's over-diagnosis.

01:58:53.000 Of course, they're not in that area.

01:58:55.000 They're not particularly working with a lot of autistic children.

01:58:59.000 But they're just in so much denial about this And they'll get mad at you, but there's been all the reports of vaccines killing people, vaccines causing epidemics, vaccines spreading things, the cancer viruses in the vaccines, not just the SP40, there's mercury.

01:59:19.000 Why are they so arrogant?

01:59:21.000 I mean, are they in denial, Doctor?

01:59:24.000 You know, you're asking a good question.

01:59:25.000 I've thought about this for 30 plus years because we're dealing with very intelligent people.

01:59:31.000 We're not dealing with people who are You know, don't have the facts in front of them.

01:59:36.000 I think that you have to look at the person who ends up in medical school.

01:59:39.000 I'm kind of an aberration.

01:59:41.000 I ended there because my two best friends went.

01:59:44.000 Most doctors, we were number one in their grammar school, number one in their high school, number one in their college.

01:59:50.000 For years, all they did was when someone said something in front of them, a teacher, they pared it back on their exams and no one could do it better than them.

02:00:00.000 And so, you build someone like that after 25 years, They have no ability to think independently.

02:00:05.000 The minute they hear something, they just believe it's true.

02:00:09.000 I think it's the reason why doctors are very poor businessmen, because they can't think business-like.

02:00:19.000 Their minds are one-tracked.

02:00:21.000 In a sense, if they found out they were wrong what they were doing, they'd almost need psychiatric help to get them back into shape.

02:00:28.000 So they're in double-think, Orwellian, shelf-induced denial, and you're right, statistically, doctors are horrible business people, are always getting ripped off, because they're in denial about their whole lives, and they think they're God, too.

02:00:42.000 Exactly right.

02:00:43.000 When you think you know everything, you don't have the ability to sit back and just listen to what's being said.

02:00:49.000 And make up your own mind.

02:00:50.000 You know, the thing that's most mind-boggling, even more than the whole mercury and MMR vaccine, is the Hepatitis B vaccine.

02:00:58.000 This is a sexually transmitted disease.

02:01:01.000 And it's being given now to children in the first day of life in the hospitals.

02:01:06.000 Now, we had a representative from Merck who manufactured the vaccine.

02:01:11.000 We brought him to one of our seminars.

02:01:12.000 We just asked one question.

02:01:13.000 Show me one bit of research that is safe to a one-day-old child.

02:01:18.000 Oh, none of the research is under five years of age.

02:01:20.000 I can't believe this.

02:01:22.000 By the way, they really push it when it's admitted to be one of the most dangerous, admittedly dangerous, vaccines.

02:01:28.000 Exactly.

02:01:29.000 And up until now, the vaccines were for at least something that was an infectious disease, polio, measles, mumps.

02:01:38.000 Now they're talking about making us take hundreds.

02:01:41.000 Right.

02:01:41.000 And for sexually transmitted disease, which means you and me will not have a right with our children and grandchildren to be able to teach them our values.

02:01:50.000 What are we saying about this? 0.91

02:01:51.000 We're saying that go ahead and have sex. 0.99

02:01:54.000 No problem.

02:01:54.000 Even with someone who's got AIDS or hepatitis B, we have a vaccine they'll take care of.

02:01:59.000 Well, I'll tell you something.

02:02:00.000 Number one, that vaccine only lasts for three or four years.

02:02:03.000 Number two, it's very, very dangerous.

02:02:04.000 But I'll tell you the real reason.

02:02:05.000 This food from Mexico is sprayed with human feces and people are getting it all over the place and they just want to just feed us that and be able to cover it. 0.93

02:02:13.000 You know what's amazing?

02:02:15.000 The Lord made us so good that in spite of all this, we usually do okay.

02:02:18.000 That's the incredible thing.

02:02:21.000 Yeah, it is incredible.

02:02:23.000 Doctor, this is amazing.

02:02:24.000 I wish we wouldn't have got our wires crossed to have you on longer.

02:02:26.000 Do five more minutes with me, because I've got another guest I've got to interview coming up here.

02:02:30.000 It's another important issue, but I've got to get you back for a full hour, because it's just, it's a holocaust that's happening to these children via this mercury and the rest of it.

02:02:40.000 I mean, it is massive.

02:02:41.000 We'll talk more with the doctor when we get back.

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02:05:59.000 Dr. Eisenstein, who joins us, has written the book, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate.

02:06:03.000 She's going to leave us here in just a few minutes because we have another guest on, a mother who Nationally it is fighting cameras in school bathrooms. 1.00

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02:06:28.000 But we're live right now.

02:06:30.000 Doctor, if folks want to get your book, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, how do they get that from you right now?

02:06:38.000 Well, they can go right to your website in a couple days, but otherwise they can come, you can get it on Amazon, or I'm not sure what other, but you can go to our website, www.homefirst.com.

02:06:52.000 That's right, homefirst.com, or folks can simply Simply go to Amazon.com and it won't be up on InfoWars for a week or so because after you ship them to us then we'll put them up and we'll have you back up and go over this more because it's a really great book and it's a kind of material.

02:07:10.000 And you know what?

02:07:11.000 It's balanced.

02:07:11.000 It says, okay, here's what they admit it, it'll do to you.

02:07:14.000 It'll basically eat the paint off your house and if you want to take it, go ahead and enjoy yourself.

02:07:18.000 But getting back to the Amish not getting autism and your patients coming through and just the numbers being the complete opposite I mean, now we have whole schools, doctor, with whole classrooms full of the autistic kids, whereas 30 years ago, 40 years ago, you never saw them, and now you mention this in the last segment.

02:07:36.000 We have...

02:07:38.000 We have, in England, a discussion last year of maybe we should make it mandatory an injection of a virus that creates plaques in the brain that block you being able to get high off opiates and nicotine.

02:07:50.000 Well, that actually is going to brain damage you so you can't even take endorphins into those receptors.

02:07:57.000 I mean, you're the medical doctor, but that's what their doctors were saying, and now they're talking about those vaccines here, vaccines for earaches, vaccines for cigarettes, vaccines for... vaccines for... and then for everything, sir!

02:08:08.000 Well, you know, medicine is starting to realize with antibiotics, and that's kind of like another area which is exactly the same.

02:08:16.000 We thought we could just kill, kill, kill, and that would resolve our problem.

02:08:20.000 Now all of a sudden we're finding that antibiotics don't work anymore. 0.52

02:08:24.000 And so we have to look at some older ways.

02:08:26.000 And it's creating bacteria that will literally eat the paint off your house.

02:08:29.000 Exactly.

02:08:31.000 I mean, you know, now we're looking at some things like that they've known for hundreds of years.

02:08:35.000 Probiotics, those are the friendly bacteria, which used to come when your grandmother and my grandmother made food, and we had cultured food.

02:08:46.000 And when we live in a society that's, in a sense, sterile, you can't afford to have food that has anything but everything taken out of it.

02:08:53.000 Well, one of the big global studies they've done of dogs and cats making your wellness just shoot up, Because of the bacteria buffers they give us?

02:09:04.000 Exactly.

02:09:04.000 Oh, there's no doubt about it.

02:09:06.000 You know, the idea of our food being contaminated, well, all the animals are being fed estrogens, they're being fed antibiotics.

02:09:15.000 I mean, it's a real problem, you know.

02:09:17.000 And as I said, I praise the Lord every day that we are alive as a miracle.

02:09:22.000 I mean, in spite of all this.

02:09:23.000 I don't think it's because of this.

02:09:24.000 Well, there's a big study.

02:09:25.000 That's why males are getting effeminate and females more aggressive. 0.92

02:09:29.000 It's the hormones.

02:09:30.000 There's no doubt about it.

02:09:31.000 I mean, the environment has so much pseudo-hormones.

02:09:37.000 The pollution from cars also has estrogen-like activity.

02:09:43.000 And it's just so fascinating, you know, that As this has all grown, we've had just more and more feminization of males.

02:09:51.000 There's no doubt about it.

02:09:52.000 Well, it's totally documented.

02:09:53.000 I mean, girls didn't used to develop until 14, 15. 0.91

02:09:56.000 Now they're developing at 8.

02:09:57.000 Exactly, you know.

02:09:59.000 And interesting enough, because a lot of the children today, the majority of babies in this country are being bottle fed.

02:10:05.000 And you've got the same hormones in the formula.

02:10:08.000 Soybean.

02:10:09.000 Oh, by the way, doctor, it's also tied to breast cancer.

02:10:12.000 Of course, you know this, but can you confirm that for the ladies that all this estrogen is going to kill them? 1.00

02:10:18.000 Well, you know, I wrote another book and I'll send you some.

02:10:21.000 It's unavoidably dangerous.

02:10:23.000 And it's to talk about the hormone replacement therapy, the birth control pill.

02:10:28.000 And these are drugs that should never be given to anyone.

02:10:31.000 And even the government themselves last year came out Hey, when you drink water out of a plastic bottle, it's got estrogen.

02:10:37.000 It's their statement, not my statement.

02:10:39.000 Has it changed anything?

02:10:41.000 No.

02:10:42.000 Hey, when you drink water out of a plastic bottle, it's got estrogen.

02:10:46.000 Yeah.

02:10:47.000 It'll leach.

02:10:48.000 You're absolutely right.

02:10:49.000 You're absolutely right.

02:10:50.000 It'll leach from the plastic container right into the water.

02:10:52.000 I mean, you've got literally degree after degree from the most prestigious universities out there, and it's all admitted.

02:11:00.000 This is not a secret, as you said, Doctor, but you tell the average buffoon, or even a doctor, that they go, shut up, everything we do is perfectly wonderful.

02:11:08.000 Exactly.

02:11:09.000 But the public is starting to, I really believe, like programs like yours, really waking people up and saying, wait a minute, let me think about this a different way.

02:11:19.000 Well, Doctor, we've got to make you a regular guest here on the show, and I can't wait to carry your book, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate.

02:11:25.000 You're just doing incredible work.

02:11:26.000 Oh, I appreciate it.

02:11:28.000 You bet, sir, and Godspeed to you, and we've got to turn this crisis around.

02:11:33.000 But look, it's conclusive, and I'm glad you're aware of that.

02:11:36.000 You're incredibly informed, and obviously you're a doctor that studies this, but I've interviewed other doctors who say vaccines are dangerous.

02:11:41.000 They're not a tenth as informed as you are.

02:11:45.000 I'm gushing because it's refreshing, but I just sit here and I read the CDC going, we've brain damaged millions.

02:11:51.000 I won't give it to my kids.

02:11:52.000 We've got to cover this up.

02:11:54.000 I mean, we have their own documents, the minutes, where they're admitting they're doing this.

02:12:00.000 Incredible.

02:12:00.000 Just incredible.

02:12:02.000 Well, work like yourself will really have a chance to make a great impact on our society.

02:12:09.000 Well, also, I mean, I thank you, sir.

02:12:10.000 I mean, I want my daughter to be a woman.

02:12:12.000 I want my son to be a man.

02:12:14.000 I mean, it really just boils down to survival here.

02:12:18.000 Exactly.

02:12:19.000 Exactly.

02:12:19.000 Survival.

02:12:20.000 All right.

02:12:21.000 Well, Dr. Eisenstein, we will talk to you very, very soon, and that's at HomeFirst.com or HomeFirstHealth.com?

02:12:29.000 No, no, no.

02:12:30.000 HomeFirst.com.

02:12:32.000 Alright, HomeFirst.com, we'll get a link to that up on InfoWars.com.

02:12:35.000 Oh, and you have a radio show up in your neck of the woods.

02:12:40.000 I'm on a few AM and FM stations up in Illinois, but tell us about AM 1160.

02:12:45.000 Tell us about that.

02:12:46.000 It's the Christian Radio.

02:12:47.000 It's a member of the Salem Broadcasting Network.

02:12:50.000 I've been there for 20 years.

02:12:51.000 I do a call-in talk show every Saturday from 10 to 11 o'clock.

02:12:55.000 You can pick it up on the web, you know, and we use all contemporary issues about medicine, and we just a live open talk show.

02:13:04.000 Well, I didn't know about you, and I haven't read your name a few times, but I've studied so much on this, and to start reading all these UPI reports that go back years in your work, you're just another diamond, another jewel out there that I'm sure a lot of people are aware of, but I wasn't, so I want to share you with our audience.

02:13:21.000 What area is that particular AM 1160 heard in?

02:13:26.000 In the Chicago area, it's a 50,000-watt channel, so anywhere within 50 miles of Chicago will be able to hear it.

02:13:32.000 Okay, well I appreciate you, Doctor.

02:13:34.000 Take care.

02:13:35.000 Thank you.

02:13:35.000 Be well.

02:13:36.000 You bet.

02:13:36.000 Just amazing.

02:13:37.000 And I know we've got two Chicago affiliates, one during the day, one at night, and I know they don't mind me plugging another station because this is going to save kids.

02:13:45.000 I mean, seriously.

02:13:47.000 I mean, we've got to do this.

02:13:49.000 I don't normally plug other people's radio stations, but I just don't care.

02:13:52.000 I mean, I know you don't either as program directors and owners.

02:13:55.000 We have to warn people.

02:14:00.000 So, pay everybody back, folks.

02:14:01.000 Call in to 1160 this Saturday from 10 to 11 and talk to the doctor and then plug whatever appeal you're listening to us on.

02:14:09.000 It'll kind of be a nice synergy there where we put you so, but it's just got to be done.

02:14:14.000 Let's go quickly.

02:14:16.000 I apologize for backing her off today.

02:14:18.000 We're going to have her back on soon for longer. 0.97

02:14:20.000 Just Dr. Eisenstein got late with some patients and stuff.

02:14:25.000 That happens with professionals.

02:14:26.000 So he got on 45 minutes late.

02:14:28.000 So we had a smaller interview.

02:14:31.000 But she was on a few weeks ago.

02:14:32.000 I remember her son, a very daring young man, saw this camera in the bathroom over the stall, pulled it out, took it home to her.

02:14:38.000 They suspended it.

02:14:39.000 Now they've expelled in Wichita She's in Georgia for the year, a young man who found the camera and we learned, brought to the school, not even to his parents.

02:14:49.000 Same story, same thing.

02:14:52.000 And it's all over the country, see?

02:14:55.000 And that's why she started an organization to fight this. 0.99

02:14:59.000 And thank you, Cindy Champion, for being a champion of liberty.

02:15:03.000 Well, thank you, Alex, for having us on again.

02:15:06.000 You bet.

02:15:06.000 We've got a few minutes now.

02:15:07.000 Oh, is your son there, too?

02:15:08.000 No, and I say, I'm actually representing all the parents, so I kind of think along those lines.

02:15:14.000 I apologize.

02:15:15.000 No, no, that's okay.

02:15:16.000 Tell us about your website, your organization, and PACER, and then we're going to go to break and come back and talk more about the latest discoveries of bathroom cameras.

02:15:26.000 PACER is Parents Against Cameras in Restrooms, and in fact, apparently it's beginning to be successful, which was my hope.

02:15:34.000 I had Dave a visitor to share this story with me and therefore we're able to share with the rest of the country, which is the purpose of the organization in the first place.

02:15:45.000 And we've got a link to it on Infowars.com, but tell us the web address of your website.

02:15:51.000 It's Pacer, P-A-C-I-R.org, and you can get it either by Pacer.org or Parents Against Cameras in Restrooms.

02:16:01.000 Both link in the same direction.

02:16:02.000 Not really a radical thought.

02:16:04.000 We don't want cameras in bathrooms. 0.75

02:16:06.000 Well, one would think it's radical, but just some of the behavior.

02:16:10.000 Yeah, tell us what's developed now in the last two weeks since your son caught them videotaping in the bathroom stalls.

02:16:18.000 Well, so far we still are looking at the civil aspects.

02:16:24.000 The school board has definitely concurred they're not going to place the camera back in the restroom.

02:16:30.000 There has been no discipline action, disciplinary action for the high school principal.

02:16:36.000 He's still in charge and basically it's business as usual which is surprising.

02:16:41.000 Now my son has fulfilled his suspension obligations.

02:16:46.000 And is back in school.

02:16:48.000 Fortunately, the middle school principal and subsequent teachers have been treating them nicely and not giving them a hard time, which was also a concern.

02:16:58.000 The district attorney has met with counselors in the school system.

02:17:06.000 They've gone through the tape.

02:17:07.000 Actually went to the trouble of getting every child involved.

02:17:11.000 Um, you know, there were quite a few students that visited.

02:17:14.000 Now the principal had said he was going to leave it in there.

02:17:16.000 Where's the camera now?

02:17:18.000 Uh, I'm not exactly sure where the camera is, whether it's with the Sheriff's Department or not, but the videotape is in the possession of the Sheriff's Department.

02:17:30.000 The Sheriff's Department?

02:17:31.000 That shows this is becoming a possible criminal matter?

02:17:34.000 That's correct.

02:17:34.000 In fact, there was another student that had snapped a photograph.

02:17:40.000 Stay there.

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02:22:01.000 Cindy Champion.

02:22:03.000 Pacer.org.

02:22:04.000 What a great URL.

02:22:08.000 Well, we've got about five minutes left here, Cindy, and so now, I mean, originally one of the youth that snapped a picture of the camera first brought it to the Sheriff's Department, and according to your son who talked to that youth, he said, man, that looks like some kind of, you know, pervert thing, which is common sense.

02:22:24.000 That's what, you know, a spy camera in the bathroom nobody knows about.

02:22:27.000 Not even the middle school principal, I mean, it reeks of that.

02:22:32.000 Now what are the police saying?

02:22:34.000 Well, the police did call in the district attorney.

02:22:40.000 They are definitely taking it as a serious threat.

02:22:44.000 It's my understanding they spent the better part of the day going through that camera or going through the video to make sure that they had the names of all students involved, which to me indicates the level of seriousness with regards to the privacy issues.

02:23:00.000 How do we even know this is the real video that this guy shot?

02:23:04.000 I mean, how long did the principal from the high school put the camera in the middle school?

02:23:09.000 How long was it there?

02:23:10.000 As far as I can tell, one day.

02:23:12.000 The better part of a day.

02:23:13.000 So people found it right away?

02:23:16.000 Luckily.

02:23:16.000 Yes, luckily.

02:23:19.000 The students didn't seem to actually notice the camera until about 1.30 in the afternoon.

02:23:24.000 So whatever was filmed that morning I really am not privy to that.

02:23:30.000 The principal may have just done this to try to catch some graffiti or whatever, but the police, what are you getting from them?

02:23:36.000 What are they saying?

02:23:37.000 They're making sure that they're aware of everything that was going on.

02:23:42.000 It's my understanding, initially when I viewed the last minute or two of the video, I assumed That the camera was placed in such a way that the urinals would not be seen.

02:23:56.000 In fact, the urinals were just below the camera, which is a concern of mine, because technically, if a child is standing in front of the camera... This is unbelievable!

02:24:06.000 Oh no, this is... It's even worse than I had initially anticipated.

02:24:10.000 Oh, it always is.

02:24:11.000 All they've got to do is take one step back and you've got a full body view, one to two steps.

02:24:17.000 You know, I guess if they lean in and lay all over the urinal when they're going to the restroom, fine, you can't see anything.

02:24:22.000 This is unbelievable.

02:24:23.000 So, why about the principal sweating bullets right now?

02:24:26.000 I don't know.

02:24:27.000 I actually saw him at a Christmas concert this last week, and he was sitting as if nothing had happened.

02:24:37.000 I personally would have been a little bit concerned.

02:24:40.000 But he doesn't seem to be at all bothered.

02:24:42.000 There doesn't seem to be any disciplinary action at this point.

02:24:45.000 He'd flip out if he went to his house and looked up and there was one over his toilet.

02:24:49.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:24:50.000 What did you think when you heard about this other case now in Wichita, Kansas?

02:24:53.000 The young man doing the same thing your son did, but they expelled him.

02:24:56.000 He's gone for the year.

02:24:57.000 Well, it was just amazing.

02:25:00.000 I went to the website this morning to check and a visitor had posted this for me so that I would be made aware that this incident had occurred.

02:25:10.000 Several things.

02:25:11.000 First of all, it's the same situation.

02:25:13.000 There was a camera hidden in the bathroom.

02:25:16.000 The principal apparently had taken it on his own to do.

02:25:20.000 The Board of Education was completely unaware, which is the same as in my case.

02:25:28.000 They even sent a press release, I assume out, because this was on a website in Wichita.

02:25:36.000 Uh, at one of the news stations saying it was a mistake and we admit this was a mistake and it won't happen again.

02:25:42.000 Um, then they don't address the idea that the child has been, um, you know, actually expelled out of school.

02:25:49.000 Um, at that time there was a belief the rest of the year.

02:25:52.000 However, I just went on before coming on the air and the, uh, AP, uh, released a statement that the school, the principal is going to be disciplined, although I'm not sure to what degree.

02:26:04.000 And there's a statement on the end, however I've not confirmed, that the child may be allowed to go back to school.

02:26:10.000 Well, I was, I was flattered that the local Wichita TV station linked to us for coverage.

02:26:15.000 Did you see that?

02:26:16.000 I did not know that.

02:26:17.000 Well, this is weird.

02:26:18.000 Yeah, at the bottom it says, go here for more, and then it's a link to, it's a link to InfoWars and a page we have on your site.

02:26:24.000 Well, no, it's just they should be covering it, but I'm glad they linked over to your story there.

02:26:30.000 Well, listen, we're flat out of time here.

02:26:33.000 People will visit Pacer.org.

02:26:35.000 We do need a national movement against... I mean, all the time they arrest janitors for pulling this type of stuff.

02:26:41.000 It's crazy.

02:26:42.000 And if a principal... I mean, it's funny these principals are doing this without anybody knowing.

02:26:45.000 Now, see, some schools are doing it and telling people, which is just as bad, but this is really suspicious.

02:26:52.000 Well, at least the children, you know, have a clue when they walk in the bathroom if there's signage and there's an understanding the cameras are there.

02:26:58.000 You know, that's at least a minimal amount of safeguard.

02:27:01.000 But at this point, you know, neither of these situations there was any signage at all.

02:27:04.000 There shouldn't be cameras in bathrooms.

02:27:06.000 I agree with you.

02:27:07.000 I absolutely agree with you.

02:27:09.000 All right, well, uh, thank you for spending time with us.

02:27:12.000 Thank you for bringing this again to the public eye.

02:27:12.000 Well, you're welcome.

02:27:15.000 We're working towards it at Pacer, so any information that we're able to pull together will be shared among any other visitors.

02:27:21.000 Well, I guarantee you this is going on in, I don't know, 50-something schools or more we've seen officially.

02:27:29.000 And it's just amazing.

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02:30:43.000 Okay, we're joined by Connors and Bob Lardy. we're joined by Connors and Bob Lardy.

02:31:02.000 He's got an appointment that he's got to get to, so he's just with us for this segment.

02:31:06.000 And I tell you, he's been hard to get on.

02:31:07.000 Busy man.

02:31:08.000 Of course, Bob Barr, representative of the 7th District of Georgia and the U.S.

02:31:12.000 House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003, serving as senior member of the Judiciary Committee and vice chairman of the Government Reform Committee and as a member of the Committee on Financial Services.

02:31:22.000 He was at the CIA, he of course was with the 21st Century Liberties Chair of Freedom, Privacy and the American Conservative Union and serves as the board member of the National Rattle Association and the Patrick Henry Center.

02:31:33.000 He also serves as the Chairman of Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances and provides advice to several organizations including as a consultant to the ACLU.

02:31:42.000 And it just goes on and on for page after page.

02:31:45.000 Most of you know who Bob Barr is.

02:31:47.000 This is his maiden voyage here on our show, just for a few minutes.

02:31:50.000 Congressman, thanks for coming on with us.

02:31:52.000 Well, I appreciate the opportunity, certainly, because you reach a lot of people and you deal with very, very important issues, frequently constitutionally-based issues, so I'm glad that you all are out there doing that.

02:32:04.000 Oh, I didn't know that you were aware of what we did, Congressman.

02:32:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:32:08.000 Oh, okay.

02:32:09.000 You reach a lot of people, and these are vitally important issues when we're dealing with our civil liberties.

02:32:15.000 And so many folks in both of the national parties, the Democrat and the Republican, they sort of forget about this, don't want to deal with it.

02:32:22.000 So somebody's got to pick up that baton and run with it, and you do, and I appreciate it.

02:32:28.000 Well, we appreciate you coming out against the Patriot Act.

02:32:31.000 A lot of people are confused, and I'll just give you the hard question up front.

02:32:35.000 Why did you vote for the Patriot Act, and then for the last three and a half years you've been vehemently opposed to it, and I commend you for fighting against its reauthorization in its current form, but can you explain that to us?

02:32:49.000 Yeah, the most important thing, first of all, is why are we opposed to the reauthorization of the provisions at Sunset without some limitation, and we're opposed to those Uh, because the way the Patriot Act has been used over the last four years raises very serious concerns that it is being used in an unconstitutional way and it is being abused by being used far in excess of the purposes for which it was intended.

02:33:19.000 It was intended to provide Very important tools, some of which are important and are not controversial, and that's why I voted for it, because it did give important tools to law enforcement and our intelligence agencies.

02:33:32.000 It created more positions, it created better coordination between the agencies, and that was important.

02:33:38.000 The problem is that at the same time, it gave the federal government too much power.

02:33:43.000 And as we've seen that power being used over the last four years, we see that the power to access law-abiding American citizens' records, private records, is being used far in excess of what was intended.

02:33:58.000 The government still does not have to show any suspicion whatsoever that the citizen has done anything wrong before the government can access their records.

02:34:08.000 And we believe that this dramatically undermines the Fourth Amendment guarantee of privacy in our system of government.

02:34:16.000 What did you think about Patriot Act II and the things they wanted to add?

02:34:21.000 Well, it took a very bad situation and made it dramatically worse.

02:34:27.000 There were, as you know, because I know you've talked about it, there were provisions in the so-called Patriot II or Son of Patriot Act to give the government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship.

02:34:39.000 It would have greatly expanded, even beyond the powers in the current Patriot Act, the ability of the government to access personal, private records of American citizens.

02:34:50.000 It would have expanded the definition of Domestic Terrorist Act.

02:34:54.000 And thankfully, we thus far, knock on wood, have been able to stave off expansions of the Patriot Act.

02:35:02.000 But what we've been trying to do with the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, or those provisions that would sunset this year, is to try and bring a little bit of balance back to it.

02:35:14.000 We've made some progress, not a lot, but we have made some progress.

02:35:17.000 But what we're trying to do right now is urge senators, particularly Republican senators, Not to buy into this sham compromise that is being proposed now between the House and Senate conferees.

02:35:31.000 It does not go nearly far enough.

02:35:33.000 So we're urging senators to vote against cloture on the Patriot Act compromise bill.

02:35:39.000 Well, the way I read it, and the way analysts are reading it right now, is really it's the original Patriot Act, and they're just putting in a few little turns of the phrase to confuse people, some platitudes.

02:35:50.000 They are making some minor adjustments.

02:35:52.000 Some of those minor adjustments are positive, and I commend Senator Specter and others for at least holding out for some changes.

02:36:01.000 But Congressman, here's the problem.

02:36:03.000 They're already implemented Patriot Act 2, grabbing American citizens, saying no habeas corpus, saying we can torture whoever we want, Bush is God, he speaks from the throne like the Pope, ex cathedra.

02:36:16.000 It's just light years, open discussions, using troops domestically, having the CIA and Defense Intelligence, you know, looking over our hedges at us.

02:36:25.000 I mean, even Ron Paul a few weeks ago on this show, and Paul Craig Roberts and many others say it looks like the classical move towards a dictatorship.

02:36:34.000 And basically, as long as you smile when you demand to see somebody's ID at gunpoint sitting on a bus, I guess it's okay for the government.

02:36:45.000 That's sort of the way they operate.

02:36:48.000 It can be a totalitarian type regime.

02:36:50.000 Congressman, do you see that as a danger?

02:36:52.000 I think it's a real danger where we have the military becoming involved in all sorts of domestic matters.

02:37:01.000 And we have the government being able to seize very private personal records on people without any suspicion they've done anything wrong.

02:37:08.000 I mean this is a dramatic turn of events that has accelerated greatly since 9-11.

02:37:15.000 I saw an editorial you wrote a few years ago saying that the attacks on our liberties are more damaging to America than the physical attacks of 9-11.

02:37:23.000 Can you comment on that and then in hindsight elaborate?

02:37:28.000 I don't doubt for a minute that we can defeat terrorists.

02:37:33.000 We have a great military.

02:37:35.000 If we focus on the job of the military, and that is protecting our borders and protecting our national security interests overseas, we win virtually every time if we get serious about it.

02:37:48.000 But if we then turn the military inward, And use the military to compile electronic dossiers on citizens, to data mine, to have citizens watching out on each other and reporting on each other.

02:38:02.000 If we have the military involved every time there's a bad rain or windstorm or tornado, then what we are doing is we are undermining the entire basis on which our constitutional representative democratic form of government was founded.

02:38:19.000 Even as our leaders in Washington say, we're not going to let the terrorists change our way of life, they are implementing policies that do precisely that.

02:38:29.000 Congressman, how did your stint at the Central Intelligence Agency help you be able to analyze the current things that are happening in the U.S.?

02:38:37.000 Because that's an area on the web and other places, and I've got a lot of emails and calls since I announced you were coming on.

02:38:44.000 People wanted to ask you about that, exactly what you did at the CIA.

02:38:48.000 My experience both at the CIA and as a United States Attorney under Presidents Reagan and Bush 1 really allows me to look at these issues of government power and constitutional authority from a practical standpoint that I know firsthand just how powerful the federal government already was before the USA Patriot Act.

02:39:11.000 The tools were there, whether they were intelligence tools to discover what the Terrorists were up to or law enforcement tools to actually stop them.

02:39:21.000 We had the tools to stop those terrorists prior to 9-11.

02:39:24.000 We didn't.

02:39:25.000 But it wasn't because we didn't have the USA Patriot Act.

02:39:28.000 It was because the government, at all levels, had gotten sort of lazy, was not, the government was not doing its job of implementing and carrying out the laws that were already on the books.

02:39:42.000 And the work that the CIA does, for example, and the other intelligence agencies, It's basically outside of the constraints of the Fourth Amendment and that's as it should be.

02:39:53.000 When our government gathers intelligence, foreign intelligence overseas, they shouldn't be bound by the Fourth Amendment.

02:39:59.000 Congressman, Tommy Franks last year when he was out going at a sitcom, and I'm sure you're aware of this, said, one more attack, we turn over the country to the military, we get rid of the Constitution.

02:40:09.000 And then the CFR, some of their people said this, the PNAC boy said, terror attacks will really be helpful to get our agenda through and to silence dissent.

02:40:19.000 I mean, I want your comments on that, honestly.

02:40:21.000 I mean, this is classical tyranny we're seeing, and I'd like to get your take on specifically What it means to have this whole umbrella... Here's what I'm trying to say.

02:40:35.000 They are going in and setting up neighborhood watch, homeland security groups, and there's no terrorists to look for in Albuquerque, New Mexico, say, or somewhere in Colorado, so what they do is Okay, we're going to fight crime now.

02:40:50.000 Spy on your neighbor.

02:40:52.000 Are they smoking pot?

02:40:54.000 They've used the Patriot Act on pot dealers, topless bars. 0.82

02:40:57.000 You've written about it.

02:40:57.000 I mean, you know that.

02:40:58.000 It's clear.

02:40:59.000 They just want to use this against us.

02:41:02.000 I think you're absolutely correct, Alex.

02:41:04.000 I think what they're doing is they're using people's fear of another terrorist attack to move forward with various government programs that the government has wanted to gather and put in place for many, many years They're using the fear that is now driving public policy in this country, which is very unfortunate and very un-American for our nation's policies to be driven by fear.

02:41:28.000 But that's what's happening, and many of our leaders are shamelessly playing on that fear.

02:41:33.000 to implement uh... and make uh... and and grab power uh... in ways that in in calmer times perhaps the american people wouldn't stand for this is why we put in into the patriot act uh... sunset provisions for many of its provisions uh... so that uh... at least we would have the opportunity after a few years to sit down see how these were used Take a more calmer look at it and make changes.

02:42:03.000 Now, Congressman, I've only got two more questions for you.

02:42:05.000 You've got to leave here in just a few minutes, but I do want to say that you have a show called Bob Barr's Laws of the Universe, and that's on Radio America on the weekends, aired several times, and it's live, of course, once.

02:42:16.000 And you've written the book, The Meaning of Is, Bob Barr, about Harry Clinton, and I'd like to get you on sometime longer.

02:42:24.000 Let's specifically talk about the book.

02:42:25.000 The website is BobBar.org.

02:42:27.000 Bob and then B-A-R-R dot O-R-G. 0.94

02:42:30.000 There's links to it at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:42:34.000 But getting into illegal aliens, you mentioned our borders.

02:42:37.000 The war on terror holds absolutely no water with anyone.

02:42:40.000 The minute I mention that our borders are completely wide open, only 8,000 border patrol, 2,000 or 3,000 on duty at any one time, it's a complete joke.

02:42:48.000 It's a war zone here in Texas.

02:42:49.000 800 dead in the last 11 and a half months, rocket attacks, U.S. missions closing.

02:42:54.000 I mean, it's more dangerous than Israel, the State Department said.

02:42:57.000 I mean, this is a hellhole here, but the media won't talk about it.

02:43:01.000 Bush wants amnesty.

02:43:02.000 So, I mean, I'd like you to speak to that.

02:43:04.000 The borders are wide open, but I've got to have some do-gooder looking over my fence to see if I'm al-Qaeda.

02:43:10.000 It's a real shame, and it's our Achilles heel, and it's one of our own making.

02:43:15.000 On my radio show this coming Sunday, we're going to have Tom Tancredo, one of the real champions of trying to beef up our border security, or at least have a rational dialogue about doing a better job.

02:43:28.000 But, even in the President's speech a couple of weeks ago, where he talked specifically about border security enhancement, even though there were some good ideas in his speech, the one area that truly is the linchpin for this whole thing, and that is cracking down on those who come to or into this country, given employment, there are either woefully unenforced

02:43:55.000 penalties or they just aren't enforced at all.

02:43:59.000 And until we get serious about cracking down on those who are in this country or coming to this country to work, as laudable as that is, then we're not going to get a handle on this. 1.00

02:44:10.000 Okay, last question, and it's a two-parter conversation.

02:44:12.000 I'll let you get out of here.

02:44:13.000 I know you've got an appointment you're late for already.

02:44:15.000 Specifically, Katrina, There was gun confiscation.

02:44:18.000 It did go on.

02:44:19.000 We got federal injunctions.

02:44:21.000 Cops won't give the guns back. 0.94

02:44:22.000 They were under federal command when they did that.

02:44:25.000 A great martial law drill.

02:44:27.000 And Bush is trying to reauthorize the assault weapons ban.

02:44:31.000 You know, just all of this going on.

02:44:33.000 Why are we seeing things like this starting to happen?

02:44:38.000 It's interesting because I fought a lot of these gun control battles when I was in the Congress and the Clinton administration was in power.

02:44:46.000 And yet I have continued to work Second Amendment issues and it's my impression, to be honest with you, and this is confirmed by a lot of folks who are involved very heavily in regulatory matters involving firearms, that it is more difficult dealing with this administration than it was dealing with the prior administration.

02:45:07.000 And I think it's because even though I believe truly that President Bush is a supporter of the Second Amendment, he understands it, they are unwilling for some reason, this administration, to really be up front about it and to really take steps That solidifies and strengthens the right to keep and bear arms in this country.

02:45:29.000 They are not watching over the bureaucrat's shoulders.

02:45:32.000 But it's in the Bill of Rights, and it's also very popular to be pro-gun.

02:45:36.000 Why isn't Bush doing that?

02:45:37.000 And finally, sir, a lot of callers brought this up.

02:45:40.000 People want to think of you as a champion of freedom.

02:45:42.000 They're a little paranoid with the intelligence agency background.

02:45:45.000 And they say, well, he voted for this bill, and no one was even allowed to read it.

02:45:49.000 Just a synopsis.

02:45:50.000 And they go, well, now he's against it.

02:45:53.000 People want to ask you this question.

02:45:55.000 When did you have your turning point of realizing we're going in the wrong direction big time or was that a real turning point or are you kind of just a ringer going in there to kind of take control of the so-called opposition and be loyal opposition congressman?

02:46:10.000 Well, that's a new one for me.

02:46:12.000 I don't think that there are many people that would believe that, and that certainly would be ridiculous.

02:46:18.000 I firmly believe in the positions that I take.

02:46:21.000 I always have.

02:46:24.000 I had very serious concerns about the USA Patriot Act when I voted for it.

02:46:28.000 I worked very hard.

02:46:30.000 To get changes made to it, and we succeeded to some extent.

02:46:34.000 We did get a lot of changes made that the administration didn't support.

02:46:41.000 Unfortunately, the way it's been implemented, with lack of proper oversight, lack of information from the administration, using these powers much more expansively than they were intended, And now the administration trying to get additional powers.

02:46:55.000 Those are real danger signs.

02:46:56.000 So my concerns with the Patriot Act go back and are on the record before it was even passed.

02:47:02.000 Well, I'll say this now, Congressman.

02:47:03.000 I've been on the air for 11 years now, and I remember when you were making all the right stands for liberties, freedoms, Second Amendment, all down the line.

02:47:11.000 And I appreciate you fighting against the Patriot Act reauthorization now, and fighting against Patriot Act II and the Victory Act.

02:47:18.000 The Intelligence Enhancement Act, and all of this stuff.

02:47:21.000 So I appreciate you.

02:47:22.000 It's just that we have a very, very skeptical audience, and obviously most of them do really appreciate you.

02:47:28.000 We appreciate you coming on and spending the time today with us, and I hope to be able to get you on the show every six months or so, and as soon as we can schedule it, I'd like to get you to talk about your new book, that is, The Meaning of Is, about Mr. Clinton, and maybe then we can talk about why George Bush told Congressman Dan Burton to back off Clinton.

02:47:46.000 We, uh, I'd love to talk about those issues.

02:47:49.000 They are important, and I look forward to being back with you soon, Alex.

02:47:51.000 Thanks a lot, Congressman.

02:47:52.000 Okay.

02:47:53.000 Take care.

02:47:53.000 Bye-bye.

02:47:54.000 Alright, there goes Congressman Bob Barr, and we appreciate him coming on, and I ask the tough questions you want me to ask.

02:48:00.000 But frankly, folks, when he's up there fighting the Patriot Act and doing the right thing now, it almost, it almost doesn't even help to beat him up and go after him.

02:48:07.000 I, I don't know.

02:48:09.000 Overall, Bob Barr's probably a pretty good guy.

02:48:12.000 I mean, he's better than Chuckie Schumer or Hillary Clinton.

02:48:15.000 We certainly... He's not a sterling creature like Ron Paul, but... I mean, they don't... I wish they made more of those, but they don't.

02:48:25.000 Almost a perfect record.

02:48:26.000 But there's Bob Barr and there's the tough interview.

02:48:29.000 Tough question.

02:48:29.000 Probably never come back on because of that.

02:48:32.000 But we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, on the other side.

02:48:35.000 And we will go to... Who's holding what?

02:48:38.000 Cliff and Ray and Clint and many, many others.

02:48:41.000 Stay with us.

02:48:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:51.000 Another hour just exploded past us.

02:51:53.000 Got to go back to Ray who got cut short earlier.

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02:51:58.000 A lot of crawls coming up in the third hour and a ton of news I haven't gotten to yet.

02:52:02.000 The one thing I didn't like that Barr did do, and I'll put this in an article when we write one in the next few days about the interview, He said, oh, Bush has done more to go after guns.

02:52:11.000 Yeah, doubling the size of the BATF.

02:52:13.000 I mean, it's bad, folks.

02:52:16.000 Pataki's going after those, you know, suing the gun manufacturers.

02:52:19.000 Bush has done a bunch of other stuff.

02:52:21.000 Signed some importation bans.

02:52:25.000 We're in trouble.

02:52:26.000 And, oh, but that's just because Bush hasn't been watching the bureaucrats.

02:52:29.000 Oh, yes.

02:52:31.000 That's why he campaigned for the assault on his man, because he suddenly was possessed by a bureaucrat.

02:52:36.000 And still good old boys on the streets will go, George Bush is an absolute pro-gun! 1.00

02:52:40.000 I've actually had them go, you're ridiculous! 1.00

02:52:42.000 Get out of my face! 1.00

02:52:43.000 I was out at Crawford.

02:52:44.000 There'd be little neocons over there who would literally start frothing and threatening you if you disagreed with them.

02:52:49.000 I go, but Bush isn't conservative.

02:52:50.000 Back off, boy!

02:52:51.000 Don't you talk about him!

02:52:52.000 I've actually got video of this.

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02:52:55.000 And I'm like, but he's anti-gun. 1.00

02:52:58.000 That's a lie, you piece of filth! 1.00

02:53:01.000 Back off! 1.00

02:53:02.000 I guess Bob Barr's lying, too.

02:53:06.000 Okay, Bush is pro-gun.

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02:53:09.000 How am I supposed to satisfy the absolute braindead neocon out there? 0.99

02:53:15.000 Oh, man.

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Alex Jones Show - December 16, 2005

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