Alex Jones Show - 20060103_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, my friend.

00:00:33.000 It's my first live broadcast of the year 2006.

00:00:39.000 That'll take some getting used to.

00:00:41.000 And I'm glad that you have joined us, whether you're listening here in the United States on the AM or FM dial, or globally on the internet at infowars.com or prisonplanet.com or on Global Shortwave saying hi to all the ships at sea.

00:00:56.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:58.000 We'll be live for the next two hours and 59 minutes.

00:01:03.000 A few weeks ago I had Dr. Eisenstein on for just about 30 minutes.

00:01:07.000 We're going to have this medical doctor back on today for a full hour in the third hour.

00:01:12.000 It's one of the largest private practices in the United States to go over the clear evidence of what vaccines are doing to the population here in America and around the world.

00:01:23.000 Very important information coming up, not just because it covers the vaccine specifically and what they're doing to the American people, but it shows the mindset, the ideology, the philosophy of the ruling elite that we face.

00:01:37.000 Well, while we have the news really piling up here over the long weekend, Pentagon propaganda program orders soldiers to promote Iraq war while home on leave, and boy have I heard them all over talk radio, all over The news, the same script, I can hear it nationally, I can hear it locally, following that script.

00:02:00.000 It's fun to be part of the domestic commissariate propaganda corps.

00:02:07.000 I was on Alan Combs' show last night, and a caller was calling and accusing me of being an evil liberal.

00:02:12.000 And I would just bring up Bush being anti-gun, pro-open border, and he just didn't compute with them, so you really can't help these people.

00:02:19.000 Bush over the weekend, of course, defended his spy program and denied that it was misleading.

00:02:24.000 And so we'll go over some of his quotes where he says, well, I think we ought to be able to listen to al-Qaeda when they call America. 0.92

00:02:33.000 Does that include tuning in on what journalists are saying and doing?

00:02:33.000 Oh, yes.

00:02:38.000 This is all about political control.

00:02:40.000 And every step of the way, the government under Clinton and Bush blocked good elements of the FBI, Defense Intelligence, NSA, CIA from stopping Osama bin Laden, codenamed Tim Osman, their super CIA asset.

00:02:56.000 George Spiegel of course made a lot of waves over the weekend reporting that Washington is planning a military strike on Iran.

00:03:03.000 They've already advised Turkey, Egypt, Jordan and others of this and now it's been confirmed by the Jerusalem Post and others that they are moving ahead with a military strike on Iran.

00:03:13.000 That is a distinct possibility and we know now confirmed the preparations are being made.

00:03:19.000 But of course As soon as they have all the troops lined up and all the carriers ready to launch, then just a day before, and that's the normal MO, there'll be a terrorist attack that the globalists will launch. 0.77

00:03:30.000 They may even catch globalists doing it.

00:03:31.000 That won't matter.

00:03:33.000 They'll put some men with big beards on TV and say, look, they come from somewhere over there.

00:03:37.000 The average American can't point east or west and say which direction they supposedly come from.

00:03:41.000 Just, they've got beards. 1.00

00:03:42.000 Kill them. 1.00

00:03:43.000 Kill them now. 1.00

00:03:44.000 So that's the situation. 0.99

00:03:47.000 No looking at past history of who's been behind the terror.

00:03:50.000 No looking at motives.

00:03:51.000 None of that.

00:03:53.000 But Bush is defending his domestic spying operation.

00:03:55.000 Meanwhile CIA operatives, says Bush, military leaders, let bin Laden escape.

00:03:59.000 Number three over the CIA operations in Afghanistan.

00:04:03.000 But more than that, we have Buzzy Kromgaard two years ago.

00:04:06.000 Number three at the CIA period.

00:04:08.000 Well, number three's here, saying that we don't want to capture him and have been protecting him.

00:04:15.000 So, hmm, okay.

00:04:16.000 And U.S.

00:04:17.000 forces step up Iraq airstrikes.

00:04:20.000 I thought our government runs the country.

00:04:22.000 I mean, now they're going to start airstriking?

00:04:24.000 Guess that'll... gotta sell some bombs, gotta make some money, I guess.

00:04:29.000 We'll get a little bit into Putin and the situation with the gas in the Ukraine.

00:04:35.000 Got some emails I want to read.

00:04:36.000 More on firefighters.

00:04:37.000 Search burned out Texas and Oklahoma towns.

00:04:41.000 Fires of course over the weekend and yesterday threatening Oklahoma City itself.

00:04:46.000 CIA prisoner rendition program began under Clinton says ex-agent.

00:04:50.000 There is so much news coming up.

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00:08:07.000 You know, we have a lot of Illinois listeners.

00:08:13.000 I don't know what now, four affiliates up there.

00:08:16.000 We really appreciate every one of them.

00:08:18.000 So I apologize for butchering this, but I can...

00:08:21.000 I'm kind of a hillbilly from Texas.

00:08:22.000 I can hardly pronounce my own name, but Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.

00:08:28.000 Am I pronouncing that right?

00:08:29.000 But he's a real hero, folks.

00:08:32.000 This is what I have been hoping and praying for and talking about.

00:08:36.000 And he can only be commended.

00:08:39.000 I'm going to try to get the Governor or one of his staff on the show this week or next week to talk about this.

00:08:46.000 Governor Reince Rumsfeld on human trafficking, and he even talked to the press about it, Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich has written Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in response to the recent revelation that the Pentagon has not acted on presidential and congressional orders to stop doing business with companies that traffic in humans, the Chicago Tribune reports.

00:09:11.000 So, the Chicago Tribune had a report Last Monday, we had up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com about Halliburton, KBR, Kellogg, Brown & Root, their subsidiary, and DynCorp openly having lobbyists.

00:09:27.000 Imagine this!

00:09:28.000 It's like having lobbyists for bank robbers, or lobbyists for cannibals, or lobbyists for Satanists, or lobbyists for... I don't know, I mean, it's just... this is hell on earth! 0.95

00:09:41.000 Lobbyists In their openly lobbying against the government, just telling the companies, we won't give you contracts if you openly are kidnapping women and children, and men as well, to be used in actual slave camps as physical, hard laborer, mule slaves, or in sweatshops, so we can have $10 shirts instead of $15 shirts,

00:10:09.000 You know, what price sell, you know, these cheap goods, folks?

00:10:12.000 We're selling our souls for it and undermining our own jobs.

00:10:15.000 Whole other issue. 0.98

00:10:16.000 And then a lot of these people are also used as sexual slaves. 0.88

00:10:19.000 And that's all admitted, even in the Chicago Tribune. 0.93

00:10:22.000 Well, now...

00:10:23.000 The Tribune has reported last week that lobbyists for Halliburton KBR and other companies objected to language in orders that require them to monitor subcontractors for use of forced labor or prostitution.

00:10:36.000 Excerpts from the Tribune's registration restricted article follow, and it goes on in a letter Expected to go to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Friday, Illinois governor said he is troubled by the Pentagon's inaction on human trafficking and called on Rumsfeld to take aggressive measures to protect human rights.

00:10:56.000 The time to act is now, the governor told Rumsfeld according to a copy of the letter provided by the governor's office.

00:11:02.000 The letter also touts a new Illinois law which takes effect Sunday and the governor says which will create stiff new penalties for anyone engaging in trafficking.

00:11:12.000 That's the thing.

00:11:13.000 They catch illegal aliens from the Middle East, from China, predominantly China up in the North, but mainly Mexico, Venezuela, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Brazil, Belize, all that old gaggle of countries down there, coming across, and a good part of the time, not the majority, but a good part of the time, they are having to mule cocaine and heroin across in their bellies, in balloons, they swallow them, 0.95

00:11:39.000 I mean, literally, they take them and they put them in a big bus in Houston and they use them as sex slaves.

00:11:47.000 It's like you're going to work off your $10,000 and that's going to take you forever to do and then they never basically get off of the debt.

00:11:57.000 It's like sharecropping.

00:11:59.000 None of that is even comparable, as horrible as it is, to outright teams of military police and armed squads kicking down doors, going into shelters, grabbing women's children away from them, grabbing their young daughters and young sons, and taking them and loading them on jets.

00:12:24.000 200,000!

00:12:25.000 This is the admitted numbers by DynCorp and the U.N.

00:12:29.000 in the year 2000 alone.

00:12:31.000 And we only know about that case in detail.

00:12:33.000 That's a very small part of it.

00:12:34.000 Yes, 200,000 is small.

00:12:37.000 That is small in comparison to all the other stuff going on.

00:12:40.000 And that was admitted.

00:12:40.000 It came out in court.

00:12:41.000 They had to settle over it.

00:12:43.000 Because their own employees in the U.N.

00:12:45.000 and at DynCorp were watching literal flight decks, tarmacs just covered with jets and children like it was some mass evacuation.

00:12:54.000 Flying them out to be literal slaves.

00:12:57.000 Some to work as slaves on plantations, which they've got all over the Middle East and Asia.

00:13:02.000 Picking dates.

00:13:02.000 Picking tangerines.

00:13:04.000 Others to be sex slaves. 1.00

00:13:05.000 Others to be in harems. 0.99

00:13:07.000 Others to be used in textiles.

00:13:09.000 So, you know, where's Jesse Jackson?

00:13:11.000 Where's the NAACP?

00:13:12.000 They want to whine and scream and yell about slavery that went on in this country.

00:13:18.000 And it did, and it was horrible.

00:13:19.000 But, I mean, that's a hundred and something years ago, folks.

00:13:22.000 We're talking about right now.

00:13:25.000 Right now. 0.95

00:13:26.000 Slaves out of Europe. 1.00

00:13:27.000 Slaves out of Asia. 0.99

00:13:29.000 Slaves out of the Middle East. 0.99

00:13:31.000 Some slaves out of North Africa. 0.91

00:13:32.000 Yes, black people. 1.00

00:13:34.000 Slaves again. 1.00

00:13:35.000 Not free at last. 1.00

00:13:36.000 Slaves at last. 1.00

00:13:37.000 Slaves at last. 1.00

00:13:39.000 Thank the big fat devil Rumsfeld. 0.99

00:13:41.000 We're slaves at last. 0.99

00:13:43.000 We can all sit down and be slaves together.

00:13:46.000 And the point of all of this is, is a lot of you just, just, I know can't get your minds around this.

00:13:50.000 I have trouble getting my minds around it.

00:13:52.000 But here is the governor.

00:13:55.000 I have this little mental thing about not getting names right and so I screw them up more often than not because I'm so focused on trying to pronounce Blagojevich Blagojevich.

00:14:13.000 It's Rod Blagojevich.

00:14:15.000 There we go.

00:14:15.000 The Governor of Illinois.

00:14:16.000 That's gotta be annoying to be Illinois listening to me and I can't even pronounce the name of your Governor correctly.

00:14:20.000 Hey! 0.99

00:14:21.000 Don't worry!

00:14:21.000 Most Americans don't know who the Governor of Texas is even after we had the floods down here and the hurricanes.

00:14:28.000 Most people don't even know the... still don't know the name of the Governor of New Orleans.

00:14:33.000 The Governor of New Orleans.

00:14:33.000 The Governor of Louisiana.

00:14:36.000 So, at least I'm doing better than some.

00:14:40.000 It's just amazing.

00:14:41.000 But all of this is happening, and we have more and more newspapers, more and more groups, more and more government servants going public and going, hey, why won't the government even have a law against this?

00:14:57.000 Well, the answer is, there are laws against it.

00:15:04.000 And so we're missing the forest for the trees.

00:15:06.000 If federal prosecutors and U.S.

00:15:08.000 attorneys, or if state attorney generals, or if a local DA's, let's say where DynCorp has one of its hubs, like here in Austin, Texas.

00:15:20.000 If Ronnie Earl wanted to really stop some evil, there is no statute or limitations on kidnapping and things of that nature.

00:15:29.000 He would just take the 2000 case and he would look on it and see if any names were listed as being involved in that who are currently working for Dynacor.

00:15:37.000 And then he would indict them through the state level here in Austin, Texas.

00:15:43.000 And then we'd haul these people in and we'd say, where did you fly the children?

00:15:47.000 We already know Israel, Saudi Arabia, and 20-something other countries.

00:15:50.000 Where did you take them?

00:15:52.000 We'd haul those pilots in and go, hey, buddy, no, no, no.

00:15:55.000 You know, just because you, quote, just fly the airplane, you're going to tell us who was on those planes.

00:16:00.000 You're going to dig out those manifests.

00:16:02.000 You're going to testify and see.

00:16:03.000 We'd track it back and we'd take every one of these people into custody and then we would try them for the grisly crimes they've committed and they'd spend the rest of their dirty lives, and I'm sure you'd find even other stuff, don't you?

00:16:15.000 And they would have something else done to them if there had been any other foul play involved.

00:16:21.000 They would hopefully be executed by lethal injection if that would be their wish.

00:16:26.000 Oh, I know! 0.90

00:16:26.000 I'm a radical! 0.90

00:16:28.000 I'm saying people that kidnap hundreds of thousands of women and children need to get in trouble.

00:16:35.000 I've been told to shut up about this.

00:16:35.000 And you know what?

00:16:37.000 I've been told to the military grapevine about it.

00:16:39.000 No, I'm not going to shut up.

00:16:41.000 We did two articles over the weekend on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com about DynCorp and Halliburton, and we're just going to start doing them every week.

00:16:48.000 How's that sound?

00:16:49.000 How's that sound, punks?

00:16:51.000 You don't threaten me.

00:16:54.000 We're going to... In fact, I should have been talking more about this in the past.

00:16:57.000 And you know what?

00:16:58.000 Praise God.

00:16:59.000 Folks, I'm not kidding.

00:17:00.000 This really happened about two weeks ago.

00:17:03.000 I was totally freaked out in the middle of the night.

00:17:06.000 I couldn't go to bed about 1 a.m.

00:17:08.000 and I just got on my knees by the bed and I said, God, please.

00:17:11.000 Please.

00:17:12.000 I said, you know, this example... I was thinking to myself, this example of how they can openly have congressional hearings about kidnapped children And Rumsfeld just says, well, I'm not going to talk about it.

00:17:24.000 And these companies can basically do whatever they want.

00:17:27.000 I said, God, how can that happen?

00:17:29.000 I said, please have more media report on it.

00:17:31.000 Have prominent individuals go public about it.

00:17:34.000 And I'm not saying that my prayer did anything.

00:17:36.000 I think many others were praying.

00:17:37.000 Imagine being those slaves.

00:17:39.000 Boy, I bet they're praying right now in Saudi Arabia.

00:17:41.000 Other places.

00:17:43.000 And then, boom!

00:17:44.000 London Independent, BBC, Associated Press, multiple articles, Chicago Tribune.

00:17:50.000 The governor reads about it, Rod Blagojevich, and he gets mad and writes a letter to Rumsfeld and then releases that letter through his office to the press to get some attention on it.

00:18:03.000 Now, but instead of just hunting down the people that did this, and we don't have to hunt them down, we know who they are, instead of that, you know what?

00:18:11.000 That's not even a priority.

00:18:12.000 The priority is, where are these 200,000 women and children?

00:18:16.000 Why isn't there a bigger investigation?

00:18:18.000 And I want to ask the mercenaries and the thugs and the killers that do all of this.

00:18:22.000 Are you going to get the governor now, Rod?

00:18:25.000 Are you going to get people like me?

00:18:27.000 Are you going to get the BBC reporters?

00:18:30.000 Are you going to get the Chicago Tribune reporters?

00:18:33.000 I mean, you can't get us all.

00:18:35.000 You see, I may have sounded like a kook back in 2000 when this all came out in court.

00:18:41.000 2001's when it came out.

00:18:42.000 I may have sounded like a kook five years ago when I got on air and read foreign news and you could laugh at me then because you were too lazy to look it up.

00:18:48.000 But now we got governors going public.

00:18:50.000 Now we got it in major U.S.

00:18:51.000 newspapers.

00:18:52.000 And I pray to God that more people go public and more employees blow the whistle and more governors go public.

00:18:58.000 I mean, if you've got a soul You're talking about this issue.

00:19:02.000 If you've got any heart, if you've got anything in you, you're going to be talking about this.

00:19:07.000 Can you imagine if Saddam Hussein had kidnapped 1,000 American children?

00:19:11.000 Or if he kidnapped 1,000 Serbian children, not 200,000?

00:19:15.000 They would nuke that country.

00:19:17.000 He kidnapped children! 0.90

00:19:20.000 But see, when our government has rape rooms and torture rooms and is kidnapping, our government openly says, we're not going to stop this.

00:19:27.000 We're going to let these companies do this.

00:19:30.000 And then the companies get to swagger around, doing whatever they want, going, we're contractors, we'll do what we want. 0.98

00:19:36.000 Shut up, Jones! 0.83

00:19:41.000 I was out one night this week at a restaurant, and there was a bar attached to it, and I had... How many contractors came over to me? 0.99

00:19:47.000 There was a group of about ten of them.

00:19:50.000 And about five of them came over and made little comments.

00:19:55.000 We're pretty tough in Special Forces.

00:19:57.000 You better watch it, huh?

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00:24:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:07.000 All right, Keith and Jeff, Francis, many others.

00:24:11.000 Your calls are coming up.

00:24:14.000 Dr. Eisenstein joins us, coming up here in the New Year, on this third day of January 2006.

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00:24:21.000 We'll talk about vaccines, nutrition, what's in the water, what's the hormones in the foods, all of it.

00:24:30.000 And he's got more MDs behind his name than you can shake a stick at, so that's coming up.

00:24:36.000 I could spend all day on the kidnapped children and the kidnapped women, and I know it doesn't compute.

00:24:42.000 You go, wait a minute, the media freaks out over one kidnapped kid.

00:24:44.000 You've got to tell you that face scanning cameras and microphones and surveillance grids.

00:24:50.000 Oh, we've got to have the Amber Alert, which the feds can take over and then flash anti-gun messages on.

00:24:55.000 You know those big billboards on the highways?

00:24:57.000 Now they flash, report illegal guns, report terrorists.

00:25:00.000 You know, you can't drive your car on Ozone Action Day.

00:25:05.000 Basically now it's all this big conditioning mechanism, but that was all to save, save a little ember!

00:25:12.000 And now the federal government's told radio stations, so many of our affiliates four or five years ago, I keep going back to this, didn't believe it when I told them that the feds were going to start demanding about an hour a week to start off with their programming.

00:25:26.000 And now I've been talking to program directors and people that have been getting the notification that, oh yes, with the new EAS systems that we put in the mid-nineties, Mandatory by the late 90s.

00:25:35.000 We're going to be breaking in with little government service announcements of our own.

00:25:38.000 No longer will you play our service announcements.

00:25:41.000 You'll still do that, but we'll just break in whenever we feel like it.

00:25:45.000 So, everything is going in that direction because they're losing control.

00:25:51.000 But back to DynCorp.

00:25:54.000 Here's one of the articles we put out this weekend.

00:25:55.000 Dyncor and Halliburton sex slave scandal won't go away.

00:25:59.000 Halliburton Dyncor lobbyists stall law banning human trafficking and sex slavery.

00:26:05.000 And we combined in this excerpt from the Chicago Tribune articles, excerpts from some of the other articles from other major newspapers and publications, and then the letter and the comments of the governor.

00:26:21.000 So, it's all together in one place with this article, and I think this is an important article.

00:26:27.000 I think it's something you need to get an email out to people, and you need to ask your local talk show host, hey, why don't you talk about this?

00:26:35.000 See, the national dominant media is starting to lose control of their monopoly, but they still can steer what we talk about.

00:26:43.000 That's why a lot of the time we don't focus in, day to day, on what they're talking about, or what, you know, if it's Michael Jackson, we don't even touch it, or, you know, some girl in Aruba who's missing.

00:26:54.000 And people would say, Alex, why won't you talk about the Aruba girl?

00:26:58.000 And we would just send them an email back to a link to a whole archive we've got of U.N.

00:27:03.000 and DynCorp and other groups kidnapping and just, you know, public articles about Clinton White House people on one of the slave ships.

00:27:11.000 They actually have these ships docked off coast with actual chained down women. 1.00

00:27:16.000 And Clinton officials, it was in the news five years ago, go out and enjoy themselves in the pure evil.

00:27:25.000 Look, it's true, and it's just not enforced.

00:27:28.000 It's, well, DynCorp's doing this, well, Rumsfeld, what are you going to do about it?

00:27:31.000 Well, we put people in the penalty box when they do that, and the Congresswoman, well, you didn't put them in the penalty box. 1.00

00:27:36.000 Well, you know, we don't condone that.

00:27:39.000 Well, are you going to stop them?

00:27:42.000 Well, no, we're not going to.

00:27:45.000 So, I guess they're saying they're above the law, kind of like President Bush says he's above the law.

00:27:51.000 And after all, he's only spying on you to keep you safe.

00:27:56.000 So we have those articles up on the website as well.

00:28:02.000 And forgive me out there if you're sick of hearing about this.

00:28:05.000 I've talked about this a lot over the years, and I don't think I've talked about it enough in the last year or so.

00:28:12.000 And then I got to thinking about just how huge this story is and how no one was covering it, and where are these children and women?

00:28:21.000 And then I got told to shut up about it, and so I do the opposite.

00:28:25.000 When bullies and people threaten me, I go in the opposite direction.

00:28:30.000 I do not give in to it.

00:28:31.000 I fight.

00:28:33.000 We have the fight or flight mechanism built into us.

00:28:36.000 A lot of Americans just go into a catatonic thumb-sucking state.

00:28:40.000 I don't do that. 0.65

00:28:41.000 I stand up and I fight, folks.

00:28:43.000 It's just that simple.

00:28:44.000 And it's not because I'm something special.

00:28:46.000 It's because I have not been neutered.

00:28:48.000 I have not been emasculated.

00:28:52.000 But look at this article.

00:28:53.000 Pentagon propaganda program orders soldiers to promote Iraq war while home on leave.

00:28:58.000 I was on Alan Combs syndicated radio show last night. 0.96

00:29:02.000 People would call in and go, you're just a lying liberal who hates America. 1.00

00:29:06.000 You hope the terrorists attack us. 0.98

00:29:09.000 And I said, no sir, I hope the terrorists don't attack us because then we're going to be living under martial law.

00:29:14.000 And I went on to say, several callers said, Bush didn't mean to lie about WMDs.

00:29:21.000 He really thought it was.

00:29:23.000 He wouldn't lie to us.

00:29:24.000 He's a good man.

00:29:25.000 And I said, the Pentagon admittedly Has hundreds of fake writers writing fake news stories every day in Iraq, posing as real news articles, claiming there's a free press.

00:29:39.000 The Pentagon has told us domestically they have a free press.

00:29:41.000 That's the Pentagon lying to us right there.

00:29:43.000 I mean, how naive are we?

00:29:45.000 This is just a unbelievable joke.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:14.000 Dr. Eisenstein joins us in the third hour to get into the scourge of vaccines and a lot more.

00:33:24.000 Before I go to your calls, let me just mention some of the other news I have in front of me today.

00:33:31.000 Again, it's stuff like this Pentagon propaganda program orders soldiers to promote Iraq war while home on leave.

00:33:36.000 Well, the Pentagon has the Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence, and they've told us they lie to us.

00:33:41.000 They've told us they plant fake news.

00:33:43.000 All of that fake news they put out through the Iraqi newspapers is then picked up as gospel by ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox, and they know most of them are paid government operatives, and that's admitted.

00:33:55.000 We're not talking about some conservative or liberal conspiracy here.

00:33:58.000 We're talking about a mechanized corporate program of propaganda owning both parties and creating the illusion of choice through the two parties.

00:34:07.000 It's really that simple.

00:34:11.000 So of course it's come out in our news now that Soldiers were told to come back here domestically over the holidays while they're on leave and told they'll be given brownie points and more time off if they got on radio and TV and in the newspapers to contact them and to read off the script.

00:34:29.000 And I heard it this morning driving into the office of the big local AM here in Austin.

00:34:32.000 One of these minions on the radio, obvious propaganda.

00:34:35.000 And I can tune in and hear some national show like Beyond the Beltway on Sunday night.

00:34:40.000 Hear the exact same stuff, exact same script, exact same turn of phrase.

00:34:45.000 I can tune in to some San Antonio show and hear the same thing.

00:34:50.000 I've been on talk shows in studio here locally.

00:34:55.000 And, you know, the morning show crew that has me on, they're not propagandists, they're just a rock and roll show, but, oh, you know, this young man who's currently in the military, he was in Afghanistan, he's an intelligence officer, and he's written a book about how great Afghanistan was.

00:35:10.000 And I talked to the guy in the hall, and I go, you're still intelligence, aren't you?

00:35:12.000 This is propaganda.

00:35:13.000 And the guy just kind of smiled at me.

00:35:15.000 I mean, it's just sick!

00:35:17.000 They think it's cute to run intelligence operations inside the U.S.

00:35:21.000 It's totally illegal!

00:35:23.000 And you're no longer our military!

00:35:25.000 You know, they're attacking this congressman, who's a Vietnam veteran himself, and voted more conservative than Bush has on his congressional votes.

00:35:34.000 And they're all mad right now that, uh, that, uh, what is it, Murtha, has come out and that he has said that he wouldn't enlist in the military now.

00:35:44.000 Well, I sure wouldn't, just because of the vaccines they give them!

00:35:48.000 Because of the DU, their own manual saying it's deadly, but they just Still pushing on the troops and let them breathe it.

00:35:57.000 I wouldn't because our government's been seized.

00:36:00.000 That'd be like if you were in 1943 Germany and you said, I won't serve in the Fuhrer's military.

00:36:04.000 It'd be like saying, well you're against Germany, or you're against, no, you're against Adolf Hitler.

00:36:11.000 And I just hear these mindless toadies calling in to talk radio and they just like to bleat. 1.00

00:36:17.000 And verbal, the same tired propaganda about how there is no propaganda, but then if you nail them down that there's propaganda, they'll go, well, propaganda's good!

00:36:28.000 They got a lot of us to keep us safe.

00:36:30.000 No, they're taking advantage of us.

00:36:33.000 They're giving each other no-bid contracts with their wives and husbands sitting on the defense contractor boards.

00:36:39.000 They're sucking us dry.

00:36:41.000 They're destroying our Bill of Rights.

00:36:43.000 They're going after our guns.

00:36:44.000 They're going after our borders.

00:36:46.000 They're going after our kids and trying to force drug them. 1.00

00:36:49.000 And listen, you can't weevil around this.

00:36:53.000 I want the neocons out there listening, the neocon followers, the camp followers, to tell me, am I lying about the Chicago Tribune and DynCorp and Halliburton having lobbyists for white slavery? 0.58

00:37:06.000 Lobbying so they can keep doing it.

00:37:09.000 No, you'll just kind of, I don't want to talk about it.

00:37:12.000 I'm sure it's not that bad.

00:37:13.000 Well, you know, this is war.

00:37:15.000 I want you to face it.

00:37:17.000 Next time you're getting teary-eyed when you're watching Fox News and there's some 10-year-old girl been kidnapped and you're all feeling concerned when you're driving around in traffic you're looking for.

00:37:26.000 Because Fox News tells you to be concerned and you'll be concerned because they tell you when to feel and when to care.

00:37:32.000 You're a mind control slave.

00:37:34.000 But then there's 200,000 admitted. 0.91

00:37:36.000 Where are they?

00:37:37.000 We know the countries they were taken to.

00:37:40.000 Nothing's done.

00:37:42.000 Governors are writing letters saying, why don't you care?

00:37:45.000 But the governors aren't even asking to get the slaves back, the human beings back.

00:37:49.000 No, no.

00:37:50.000 They're just saying, why don't you ban it now?

00:37:52.000 Why do you keep letting it happen?

00:37:55.000 See, that's one of the spoils of this.

00:37:57.000 When the new world order goes in, they don't just have defense contractors and payoffs and money and trillions in oil.

00:38:02.000 They get to grab slaves. 0.85

00:38:05.000 And I know some of you go, well, them Arabs deserve to be slaves. 1.00

00:38:08.000 They ain't human. 0.98

00:38:09.000 Well, what about the Serbs?

00:38:10.000 Well, they ain't human neither.

00:38:12.000 What about the Croats?

00:38:13.000 Well, they ain't human neither.

00:38:15.000 Well, what about the factions that there's evidence that they grab kids out of this country and fly them out?

00:38:19.000 Well, they ain't human either!

00:38:20.000 They ain't girl without a condor too! 1.00

00:38:23.000 I like Bush!

00:38:24.000 I like him!

00:38:25.000 He's a Christian! 0.90

00:38:26.000 Yeah, he's a devil worshipper! 0.94

00:38:28.000 Ooh, how surprising!

00:38:29.000 These people are involved in kidnapping children, and they go to a thing called Skull and Bones and ask Lucifer to enter them, and they go to Bohemian Grove and worship Moloch, and I videotaped it!

00:38:37.000 How surprising!

00:38:38.000 People that kidnap kids are devil worshippers!

00:38:41.000 Wow!

00:38:42.000 You wouldn't think those two... You see, I'm freaking out here, because we should be freaking out.

00:38:47.000 I'm freaking out.

00:38:49.000 I am!

00:38:49.000 I'm freaking out!

00:38:50.000 I cannot believe this!

00:38:53.000 And every time, I'm not having a lot of energy, every time, I'm like, man, I don't want to get back in the edit room and put a new film together.

00:39:00.000 Oh, I just want to go relax. 0.99

00:39:01.000 Every time, I get to go on a talk show and have idiots call in. 1.00

00:39:05.000 And they energize me, because I realize they are these mindless loafs, these mindless oafs, these, just, and they, folks, they love taking your guns, and they'll say it's conservative. 1.00

00:39:18.000 They'll love taking your private property.

00:39:19.000 I've heard the neocons on the radio going, well, if it's good for business, take private property.

00:39:25.000 Well, I guess they need to take the guns. 1.00

00:39:28.000 They're just scum! 1.00

00:39:31.000 I hate them. 1.00

00:39:31.000 Don't you hate them, too? 1.00

00:39:32.000 Let's start hating them together.

00:39:37.000 Okay, I said I'd take your calls, and I said I'd mention the news that's coming up.

00:39:41.000 It's just Pentagon propaganda program orders soldiers to promote Iraq war while home on leave.

00:39:47.000 Good soldiers follow orders and hundreds of American military men and women returned to the United States on holiday leave this month with orders to sell the Iraq war to the skeptical public.

00:39:56.000 The program, coordinated through the Pentagon Operation Dubbed Operation Homefront, and this is mainstream news, ordered military personnel to give interviews to their hometown newspapers just out in the open, television stations and other media outlets, and praise the American war effort in Iraq.

00:40:10.000 Initial reports back to the Pentagon deem the operation a mass success, with dozens of front page stories in daily and weekly newspapers around the country, along with upbeat reports on local TV stations and radio.

00:40:20.000 We've learned as a military how to do this better!

00:40:23.000 Yes, yes, and there's all the little willing little dupes. 1.00

00:40:28.000 Captain David Diaz, a military reservist, told his hometown paper, the Roanoke Virginia Times, my worry is that we have the right military strategy and political strategies now, but the patience of the American public is wearing thin.

00:40:40.000 And boy, I heard that this morning.

00:40:42.000 I got to hear the military lady on the radio, and she's just like, it's not patriotic to be against the war.

00:40:48.000 You've got to support it.

00:40:49.000 And the talk show host, yes, yes, yes. 0.99

00:40:52.000 This congressman is a traitor. 0.98

00:40:54.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 1.00

00:40:56.000 He's a traitor. 1.00

00:40:58.000 And I'm just listening to a government spook! 0.92

00:41:00.000 And they love it, they love being called intelligence officers, and toadying around in their little uniforms, and swishing back and forth, and acting all official, and ooh, they're gonna get to be part of local domestic homeland security units in Secure Corps, and they're gonna get to be on the emergency management centers and look over our shoulders, and oh, as we get warped in the future, they'll get to have their way with us in the dungeons, but that's how they keep us safe. 0.99

00:41:29.000 These are the scum, ladies and gentlemen. 0.95

00:41:31.000 And if we don't stand up against them, they're already calling to beat us up in the streets, they're already calling to put us in camps, just like Nazi Storm Troopers in the 30's. 1.00

00:41:39.000 Intimidating their opposition, sweeping the country, calling for people's arrest.

00:41:43.000 There was years of them bleating that, until they got their way. 0.98

00:41:47.000 I'm going to let the commissariat and all of you trash know this. 0.98

00:41:51.000 We're rising! 0.99

00:41:52.000 America's rising!

00:41:53.000 You're going to fail! 1.00

00:41:54.000 Do you understand me, scum? 1.00

00:41:56.000 Do you understand me? 1.00

00:41:59.000 I promised myself I'd be calm today.

00:42:00.000 Just that all just goes out the window.

00:42:01.000 I'm going to let people know how I really feel about this.

00:42:04.000 What about you?

00:42:06.000 There's so much.

00:42:07.000 I want to get into Bush defending his spying and lying about it.

00:42:09.000 I mean, on its face, it's all lies.

00:42:12.000 Well, we've got to be able to take a phone call when Al Qaeda's doing it. 0.95

00:42:18.000 But there's never been, they can listen to any overseas transmission they want, even without FISA warrants.

00:42:23.000 And then if it's a call into the domestic U.S., they have to go back within the next month to the FISA court.

00:42:28.000 So that thing about how if the woman's pregnant, and she's driving in the car about to have her baby in labor, can the husband drive faster, or does he have to get permission from the judge first?

00:42:40.000 It's a lie!

00:42:42.000 But I've got to hear the people call and repeat it on the talk show.

00:42:44.000 Well, if your wife's having a child, you don't call the judge first! 0.99

00:42:49.000 Or then Bush gets up there.

00:42:51.000 Let me just read the quote.

00:42:54.000 Bush Defends Domestic Spying Program?

00:42:56.000 It seems... This is Bush.

00:42:58.000 Hold on, let me get my Texas voice on.

00:43:00.000 It seems logical to me that... I can't do a fake Texan voice, I'm sorry.

00:43:05.000 It seems logical to me that if you know there's a phone number associated with Al-Qaeda, an Al-Qaeda affiliate, and they're making phone calls, it makes sense to find out why Bush said, they've attacked us before, and they'll attack us again. 0.59

00:43:18.000 And believe me, we know you will.

00:43:20.000 If someone from Al-Qaeda is calling you, we'd like to know why.

00:43:25.000 And then it turns out it's congressmen and women, it's governors, it's Colin Powell, it's members of the press.

00:43:33.000 And Bush is on TV going, we need to arrest the people that are leaking this.

00:43:37.000 We need to arrest you for every time you authorize this as being a felony.

00:43:43.000 And I don't want to hear this that keeps us safe from terrorism.

00:43:46.000 I have in triplicate I don't know, what is it?

00:43:50.000 200 plus examples of the U.S.

00:43:53.000 government declassified, publicly carrying out terror attacks.

00:43:58.000 Or planning to carry out terror attacks to blame on enemies.

00:44:01.000 Said, please don't go, I just don't know why they do it.

00:44:03.000 Alex, explain to me, why would the government carry out an attacker on themselves?

00:44:12.000 Well, it's real simple.

00:44:14.000 Why did Hitler fire bombers on Reichstag?

00:44:16.000 To shut up Reich or land security, dum-dum! 0.86

00:44:21.000 But you cannot argue with it!

00:44:23.000 We have the NATO option, we have the... all these programs, the USS Liberty, with the Gulf of Tonkin, the big ones of course, 130 plus, like 134 bombings, being Gladio, Operation Gladio, declassified, 1970, 1980, the last bombing in Bologna, Italy, killing over 100 people, And our government would go out and fund the groups to do it themselves and blow up their favorite thing was kids! 0.69

00:44:52.000 You're like, Alanis, we heard this last week.

00:44:53.000 Well, I'm just not getting over our government blowing up kids!

00:44:56.000 Just like Operation Northwood says, if we kill young people it gets a bigger effect. 0.99

00:45:00.000 So they go out and they blow up a bunch of little kids, and then they run around on TV and have all their stupid shows about how their nice black ski mask Nazi jackboot thug SWAT teams are gonna, the Dallas SWAT, the heroes of SWAT, as they create all these merc teams, and I'm just sick of it! 0.99

00:45:20.000 Sick. 0.99

00:45:21.000 You know what, I'll just get to all of it later. 0.60

00:45:23.000 They're talking about going to war with Iran.

00:45:25.000 It's serious.

00:45:26.000 Dirty Spiegel, Jerusalem Post.

00:45:28.000 We'll cover it.

00:45:29.000 Keith in Ohio, thanks for holding her on the air.

00:45:31.000 Welcome.

00:45:32.000 Hello, Alex.

00:45:33.000 Hi.

00:45:33.000 The information warfare is so important, so keep up the good work.

00:45:36.000 You know, Satan, he hates truth and light.

00:45:40.000 And that's what we need to expose in many different areas.

00:45:44.000 And especially certain issues, you know, need more time Put on them to kind of put a crack in somebody's... What are those issues?

00:45:51.000 Well, like the Dime Corps situation and maybe the finders that are connected with that, maybe Ted Gunderson.

00:45:58.000 Well, here's the deal.

00:45:59.000 Oh yeah, I've read the police reports that the DC police went in a huge warehouse where the CIA was producing it and the CIA told them back off.

00:46:09.000 These people, I don't know how... Folks, we have got serial killers running our government. 0.93

00:46:14.000 I don't know if people realize that that's not a joke.

00:46:16.000 You know, the word of God teaches that Satan is the god of this world.

00:46:20.000 You know, he operates on deception, lies... And he's got his people in place.

00:46:25.000 You know, I want to know why the local radio stations in your area, no matter where you're listening, folks, why aren't they... you think this is newsworthy?

00:46:32.000 The governor writing letters to Rumsfeld saying, why won't you stop them from kidnapping kids, Rummy?

00:46:37.000 We've got a good program.

00:46:38.000 Fox Alert!

00:46:39.000 Dun, dun, dun!

00:46:40.000 Will Rumsfeld!

00:46:41.000 Tell us where the kids are!

00:46:42.000 Dun, dun, dun!

00:46:43.000 FBI raided Rumsfeld's house today, but that isn't going to happen.

00:46:46.000 I'll just keep up.

00:46:46.000 People, especially the listeners, keep up on doing internet research and keep up communicating these things and just kind of putting cracks in the walls, you know.

00:46:55.000 And the main thing I wanted to bring up was, you know, death is a part of life.

00:47:03.000 and this is all going to catch up with us sometime and things are going to get worse in this world.

00:47:08.000 It's all building to a head.

00:47:10.000 And the important thing that really matters is where is people going to spend eternity?

00:47:15.000 And there's a lot of deception there.

00:47:16.000 That's one of Satan's greatest works, deception in the religious sense, even in the evangelical circles. 0.67

00:47:22.000 Well, I was about to say, why doesn't the 700 Club do a show about the missing 200,000 kids?

00:47:27.000 They love to show little kids and say, give us money for our big jumbo jets, which is all fine and dandy.

00:47:32.000 Why don't they talk about it?

00:47:33.000 Because it's their friends.

00:47:35.000 It's their friends doing it.

00:47:36.000 Thanks for the call.

00:47:37.000 They're not going to talk about it.

00:47:39.000 I mean, but again, the good news is these people can't threaten us all.

00:47:44.000 We can expose this.

00:47:44.000 This is public.

00:47:46.000 That's the thing.

00:47:46.000 We've got all this stuff that's 100%.

00:47:49.000 I mean, it's 100% that thousands of times our government spread chemical, biologicals and radiologicals on it.

00:47:55.000 Just declassify it!

00:47:57.000 They'll just kill people in a subway or kill you on the street and later they'll go, oh yeah, we killed some Americans back in the newspaper once. 0.91

00:48:04.000 Hey, yeah, our government's kidnapping a bunch of kids with private companies. 0.98

00:48:09.000 Yeah, they're radiating 110,000 Jewish children.

00:48:11.000 Hey, they died.

00:48:12.000 Ah, Jerusalem Post, so what?

00:48:14.000 Hey, yeah, we got plans to take your guns. 0.99

00:48:17.000 We're giving the Marines surveys.

00:48:19.000 But still, we're supposed to love this government and trust it. 0.96

00:48:23.000 It's just sick!

00:48:26.000 I mean, look, if you joined the military in Andrew Jackson's time, you were a wonderful hero who was actually fighting for this country.

00:48:34.000 And you know, you can argue, you know, fighting exactly against what, but there were real odds and, you know, the government was actually in our corner at that point.

00:48:40.000 I'm not going to get into the whole Indian thing and what happened there.

00:48:43.000 That was terrible, but it wasn't like the Indians were two Indians cornered by a hundred white guys.

00:48:48.000 Try a hundred Indians cornering two white guys. 0.86

00:48:50.000 But the point is, that was the real deal back then.

00:48:52.000 I'd go join the military back then.

00:48:54.000 I wouldn't be in this military for all the tea in China. 0.95

00:48:58.000 I mean, there is no way.

00:48:59.000 Folks, you want to join the Army of Darkness?

00:49:01.000 You want to be a Storm Trooper in Darth Vader's, in the Emperor Palpatine's army?

00:49:06.000 I mean, you want to go join the Nazi Brigade?

00:49:09.000 I'm sorry, it's true!

00:49:11.000 Well, how dare you?

00:49:11.000 My son's in the military!

00:49:13.000 I'm not saying your son's a Nazi.

00:49:16.000 I'm saying the people running this military are murdering criminals who are trying to take down America and trying to set up martial law here domestically.

00:49:28.000 There's no debating that, and if you knew history, every founding father, every warning is about the government trying this, and it's doing it right now.

00:49:37.000 And it's not patriotic to let the government take over, and to let them sue the gun manufacturers, and to let all these Republican mayors and governors sue and Attack gun owners and gun makers.

00:49:49.000 It's not conservative to have the Supreme Court going after our private property.

00:49:53.000 It's not conservative to have the amnesty move.

00:49:56.000 It's not conservative to have national ID cards.

00:49:58.000 None of this is conservative! 0.65

00:50:01.000 And the biggest problem is that the Democrats are basically sold on the New World Order, and then conservatives who traditionally always fought it have been taken over by this Trojan horse that is George W. Bush, who is nothing more than a gibbering puppet himself.

00:50:19.000 We're going to break, and we'll come back and go to Jeff and many, many others, Francis and Stan and Spann and many others that are patiently holding 1-800-259-9231.

00:50:29.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host, and if you're not upset, then you're not paying attention, like the bumper sticker says.

00:50:38.000 If you're not upset, if you're not upset, if you're not upset, you're not paying attention.

00:50:46.000 That Alex, why is he upset about our government?

00:50:49.000 Not going after people who kidnapped 200,000 women and children.

00:50:53.000 I thought that's a good thing to do.

00:50:55.000 That's what Christian Americans do.

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00:53:56.000 Folks, Well, you've got to have a hard heart or a seared conscience.

00:54:15.000 I mean, think about the yuppies and people that are listening to this show right now and laughing at it, and they don't care about those 200,000 women and children.

00:54:23.000 They're just going to giggle about it, or, oh, that's a bunch of baloney, or, ah, so what?

00:54:28.000 Because you know what?

00:54:28.000 They're so focused on their iPod, they're so focused on their double latte from Starbucks, they're so focused on their J.Crew or their L.L.Bean catalog, That they don't care about that.

00:54:39.000 Well, let me tell those people something.

00:54:41.000 When you don't care about other people, when you don't care about righting evil, when you don't care about standing up against evil, you get enslaved.

00:54:49.000 You get pushed around.

00:54:51.000 You get abused.

00:54:52.000 And that goes for all the cops out there, too.

00:54:54.000 There are so many good police.

00:54:56.000 But there are also a lot of you that just grovel to the system.

00:55:02.000 I've had arguments and debates with you on the street.

00:55:05.000 And I'll say, what about this?

00:55:06.000 I just don't believe it, Alex.

00:55:08.000 Oh, and the Serbian troops are going to get me, too.

00:55:10.000 You know, one time I had a cop walk over and just say it to me out of the blue.

00:55:13.000 I didn't know what it meant.

00:55:13.000 I heard, oh, sure.

00:55:16.000 Hey, listen, Mac.

00:55:18.000 What I'm saying is real.

00:55:20.000 And so don't you sit there and say it isn't.

00:55:22.000 I'm freaked out, OK?

00:55:25.000 Believe me, if it was some new continent, some new world, some place to go, or a rocket ship going to some new planet, I'd get out of here.

00:55:32.000 I mean, this is freaking me out.

00:55:35.000 I mean, I'm freaked out, folks.

00:55:36.000 I'm freaked out.

00:55:37.000 We've got elites that openly write books saying they plan to kill us.

00:55:40.000 And then everything they wrote 20 years ago, they're actually setting up.

00:55:44.000 I'm freaked out, buddy.

00:55:45.000 I'm freaked out about what they're putting in my water that you're drinking, too.

00:55:49.000 I'm really freaked out about it.

00:55:51.000 But you think you're part of the system.

00:55:53.000 You think you're safe because you've got a uniform and a badge and a gun.

00:55:56.000 You mean nothing to these people.

00:56:00.000 And so, if you aren't upset, listen, I love you, that's the sick thing.

00:56:06.000 I come across here as aggressive and abrasive and angry and boisterous and arrogant, and all it is is confidence and anger, folks.

00:56:16.000 I am just, I am upset.

00:56:18.000 And I know that most of the police are good people.

00:56:20.000 I know most government people aren't bad.

00:56:22.000 I know most people in the CIA aren't bad.

00:56:24.000 But you're living in denial, or those of you that aren't living in denial now, are living in fear.

00:56:28.000 A lot of you that were living in denial a few years ago, I've talked to you.

00:56:31.000 Now you're afraid.

00:56:33.000 Now you've looked at what we've said, and you know it's true.

00:56:35.000 You've got to get past that fear.

00:56:37.000 We're not meant as men, and as women, to live in fear!

00:56:42.000 You've just got to conquer it, you've got to push through it, and you've got to stand up against it.

00:56:47.000 You've got to be a champion for the light, folks.

00:56:49.000 The darkness takes over when we don't let our light shine.

00:56:52.000 It's like a little Sunday School hymn.

00:56:57.000 How's it go?

00:56:58.000 I've got a light, I'm going to let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.

00:57:01.000 I mean, we have got to let it shine.

00:57:03.000 If we don't let it shine, It's over for humanity.

00:57:07.000 It's over for society.

00:57:09.000 I cannot telegraph to you how serious this is, the mind control, the manipulation, how I've studied it, how I've looked at it.

00:57:17.000 I'm able to have these complex calculations and thoughts and information and realizations that I can't even articulate to you.

00:57:25.000 I can see their program.

00:57:27.000 It is so evil.

00:57:29.000 It is so massive.

00:57:31.000 It'd be like if you were trying to, for a jury, explain a crime family and how they launder money through 5,000 different people in 30 minutes.

00:57:40.000 It's complex.

00:57:42.000 But it's all evidenced.

00:57:43.000 And when you see how big it is, that's all it is, is a global crime family involving hundreds of thousands of people in the know.

00:57:51.000 Who engage in this criminal operation against us and they fooled us through high-tech PR systems to join their system.

00:57:58.000 And we've got to say no to it.

00:58:01.000 We've got to resist it.

00:58:02.000 We've got to get involved and say no to it.

00:58:05.000 And I'm begging you, if you've got any love in your heart left, any tenderness, if you've got any place for God in your heart out there, to soften it.

00:58:14.000 That'll actually make you stronger.

00:58:15.000 To have a soft heart is much better than having a black heart.

00:58:18.000 And to, and, because you know what I'm saying deep down is true.

00:58:21.000 I want you to go verify it with the documentation.

00:58:25.000 And then I want you to decide if you're going to help us fight this or if you're just going to... I want you to make the decision.

00:58:31.000 I'm calling you to decision.

00:58:34.000 I'm demanding that you make a choice.

00:58:36.000 Whose side are you on?

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones. 0.73

00:59:13.000 There are some things worse than death, and that is living the life of a coward who dies a thousand deaths, who grovels in the mud.

00:59:26.000 I refuse to do it. 0.98

00:59:28.000 My instincts, my very coding, cries out against this abomination, this dehumanizing, enslaving, new world disorder, this world government run by a bunch of criminals.

00:59:38.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:59:39.000 We are going to take calls throughout this hour now.

00:59:42.000 We have Dr. Eisenstein joining us in the third hour to get into vaccines and the documentation of how deadly they are, a medical doctor.

00:59:50.000 And there's a bunch of news about Pentagon propaganda domestically, a bunch of new torture news.

00:59:55.000 Bush running around telling us how wonderful the spying is and how it keeps us all safe.

01:00:00.000 Just so much important stuff.

01:00:02.000 Coming up, and also Bush's drinking and drug use must be investigated.

01:00:05.000 That's one of the headlines that we've got here.

01:00:08.000 Also a New Year's resolution.

01:00:10.000 Shock and awe to replace troops in Iraq.

01:00:12.000 Big bombing campaign to start.

01:00:14.000 A bombing campaign of what?

01:00:16.000 How do you do that in low-intensity conflict when you have the entire cities dominated and you're engaging in house-to-house ops and don't even know what structures your enemies are in unless you plan to kill innocent people?

01:00:27.000 Which a lot of sicko neocons say you turn the place into a parking lot. 0.99

01:00:31.000 You can't find it on a map, you've got the IQ of a rat, but... I'm sorry, rats are smarter than that. 1.00

01:00:37.000 Ah, they know where they're going, they know where they've been, they know what they're about.

01:00:41.000 That's enough.

01:00:42.000 Jeff in Colorado, then Francis, Steve, Stan, everybody else.

01:00:45.000 Go ahead, you're on the air, Jeff.

01:00:47.000 Yay! 0.99

01:00:47.000 Alex, I wanted to talk about a related story. 0.99

01:00:51.000 Basically, you're talking about the Pentagon propaganda, and I wanted to talk briefly about basically another story that was Talking about fake news programs, Bush fake news programs. 0.73

01:01:03.000 But before I get into that, let me just say that, you know, the people that do any kind of research or investigation on Bush or his administration should know that Bush is a murderer. 0.94

01:01:16.000 Not only him, Donald Rumsfeld is a murderer. 0.99

01:01:20.000 And Dick Cheney is a murderer. 0.99

01:01:23.000 There are several people, several officials in the Bush administration that are murderers. 0.96

01:01:28.000 People need to snap out of it and wake up and realize what's going on in this country.

01:01:33.000 There's a serious problem happening in the United States of America.

01:01:37.000 And if people... But Don King, a convicted murderer and known swindler, says that he loves Bush.

01:01:43.000 Yeah, well, in any event, Don King is, I guess, part of his regime, or what I call the Bush-Cheney CIA coup.

01:01:54.000 But Alex, what's going on in this country is terrible.

01:02:00.000 My father was in the military.

01:02:02.000 He was in the military for 30 years.

01:02:05.000 There's men that fought and died for this country, and this is what we end up with?

01:02:10.000 This is a tragic, tragic mistake. 0.91

01:02:14.000 Well, now patriotism is licking black boots. 0.93

01:02:17.000 Exactly.

01:02:18.000 You're exactly right, Alex.

01:02:19.000 Not only that, the Bush administration has used Millions of dollars, I should say illegally, used millions of dollars of taxpayers' money to produce and distribute fake news programs that support a partisan... $244 million in one fake media buy in 2003.

01:02:37.000 That's one buy, folks!

01:02:38.000 media buy in 2003.

01:02:40.000 That's one buy, folks.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, this was $254 million.

01:02:45.000 And basically...

01:02:47.000 Oh, you have the actual news article that I underestimate by $10 million?

01:02:51.000 My memory does stuff like that, and normally I somehow move the number down.

01:02:55.000 Well, that's close enough.

01:02:56.000 It's 200-something million.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, it's 254 million.

01:03:01.000 In any event, under Bush, at least 20 different federal agencies had produced prepackaged, ready-to-serve reports that are distributed to hundreds of television stations.

01:03:12.000 And these reports are often broadcasted on television news programs without disclosing that the segments are produced and paid for by the U.S.

01:03:20.000 government.

01:03:20.000 And the Congressional Budget Office found that that's illegal.

01:03:23.000 Exactly!

01:03:23.000 They can't do that.

01:03:24.000 But they continue.

01:03:25.000 And they continue to do it.

01:03:26.000 Yeah, but see, so what if it's illegal?

01:03:29.000 It's like kidnapping kids with 9-Corps.

01:03:31.000 Rumsfeld says they're allowed to.

01:03:32.000 And also the mainstream media.

01:03:34.000 Also, Alex, the FCC has stated that they cannot Broadcast false information.

01:03:40.000 And they do it every day.

01:03:41.000 CNN.

01:03:41.000 Third-rate CNN.

01:03:43.000 Does it every single day.

01:03:45.000 Anything else you want to add there?

01:03:47.000 Oh, that's it, Alex.

01:03:48.000 Jeff, Happy New Year.

01:03:49.000 Good to hear from you.

01:03:50.000 We'll be right back.

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01:07:18.000 Alright, coming up in the next hour, we're going to get into the Pentagon propaganda program, ordering soldiers to promote Iraq war here at home.

01:07:26.000 And I want to go over some of the history of paid-for fake news here domestically.

01:07:31.000 Fake news in Iraq, then telling the American people, oh no, it's all real. 0.95

01:07:34.000 Look at these independent newspapers and sending, you know, ABC News crews in to talk to the independent newspapers that are paid CIA minions.

01:07:42.000 I mean, they're lying to us.

01:07:43.000 They're engaging in Pentagon propaganda domestically, not just spying on us.

01:07:48.000 And they're not just, quote, spying on Al-Qaeda folks.

01:07:51.000 So that's coming up.

01:07:53.000 And Bush is defending his ridiculous domestic spying program and lying about the nature of it.

01:07:59.000 We'll also get into CIA operatives, says Bush.

01:08:01.000 Military leaders let bin Laden escape.

01:08:05.000 And of course they let him escape.

01:08:07.000 We have the number three guy at the CIA saying that they're protecting him.

01:08:10.000 So we'll go over that and big talk about, well here it is, US forces step up.

01:08:15.000 Iraq airstrikes.

01:08:16.000 They're going to start bombing Iraq now. 1.00

01:08:17.000 I thought they controlled the country.

01:08:20.000 And there's major talk in Der Spiegel and the Jerusalem Post about the US telling Turkey and other allies, prepare for an attack on Iran.

01:08:28.000 They're even talking about invasion of Iran, starting with huge bomber attacks of the country.

01:08:33.000 So that's coming up in the third hour.

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01:08:45.000 We've got our wires crossed.

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01:08:54.000 But he is joining us today for the balance of the hour.

01:08:58.000 And he's the author of Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, and he's Dr. Eisenstein.

01:09:04.000 Mayor Eisenstein, NBJD, MPH, and he's got a 100-yard resume, just an amazing individual, and he's the head of Home First Health Services.

01:09:17.000 Home First emphasizes natural remedies.

01:09:20.000 And the doctor and the pharmacist, and I've actually got their catalog here, just amazing, amazing individuals.

01:09:26.000 And we are carrying his book, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, 1995.

01:09:30.000 And we've got him in stock right now.

01:09:34.000 I hope you get him.

01:09:35.000 We only had him on for about 30 minutes last time.

01:09:37.000 We've got him on for 50 minutes or 50 so minutes this time.

01:09:41.000 And Dr. Eisenstein, thank you for spending time with us, sir.

01:09:43.000 It is my pleasure, Alex.

01:09:45.000 Thank you very much.

01:09:46.000 You bet.

01:09:46.000 You've also got a radio show there in Illinois, don't you?

01:09:49.000 Yes, I'm on AM 1160 from Saturday 10 to 11 and I've been doing the show for about 20 years.

01:09:59.000 It's kind of evolved.

01:10:00.000 It started off just as Telling families about our home birth practice and it's evolved through vaccines and autism and all sorts of medical problems.

01:10:11.000 As we all age, more problems become part of us.

01:10:16.000 Sir, you're not on a cordless phone, are you?

01:10:18.000 Or a speaker phone?

01:10:19.000 I'm not on a cordless phone.

01:10:20.000 Do you want me to switch?

01:10:22.000 Well, it's just kind of echoing, but that's okay.

01:10:26.000 Maybe you can get a little bit closer to it or closer to the phone, Jack.

01:10:29.000 Okay, let me see if I can get a little closer here.

01:10:31.000 Does that make a difference?

01:10:32.000 A little bit better is an echo, but we'll fix it during the break.

01:10:36.000 Vaccines.

01:10:37.000 I mean, you've been discussed in a series by United Press International where it shows the Mennonites and the Amish having zero autism.

01:10:45.000 You, yourself, and people in your clinic, 35,000 plus, have gone through your offices.

01:10:51.000 You've never seen, according to the news article, autism in kids that haven't been vaccinated.

01:10:57.000 And then we know nationally that... Go through those numbers of 25 years ago, what was it?

01:11:02.000 1 in 20-something thousand had it.

01:11:05.000 Now it's 166.

01:11:06.000 Go over the hardcore numbers and diagnosis and then what in the vaccines the evidence shows may be causing this, Doctor.

01:11:13.000 Well, you know, let me just correct it a little bit because there's a little bit of a misquote because we don't know if we've seen any because obviously there are We said we have no autism.

01:11:26.000 I haven't seen any cases.

01:11:27.000 I had one mother who called me who came to our practice 18 years ago and she said that her child has autism but you don't know about it.

01:11:37.000 So there are isolated cases.

01:11:39.000 But they claim that the numbers are tenfold minimum from what they were 30 years ago.

01:11:48.000 So thirty years ago autism may have been maybe one in two thousand, one in three thousand.

01:11:53.000 And you know the numbers vary between, what they're doing is, it varies between the different branches of government or reporting bodies.

01:12:02.000 What about the number of one in twenty four thousand?

01:12:05.000 Because that's the number I've seen with the federal numbers.

01:12:10.000 Who can argue the federal numbers?

01:12:11.000 I mean, they're not going to tell us something.

01:12:13.000 They would argue there would be better than that.

01:12:16.000 They wouldn't be telling us something that's bad, you know, that unless maybe they're trying to promote vaccines or something like that.

01:12:23.000 But I think that no one doubts or no one questions That we have a massive increase in the last 30 years.

01:12:30.000 That's undisputable.

01:12:32.000 No one argues that.

01:12:33.000 I think that's what the whole issue is.

01:12:35.000 And there's been some really good scientists, well, investigative reporters like yourself and Robert Kennedy.

01:12:43.000 I mean, his work On mercury, looking into it, it's been just spectacular.

01:12:51.000 And Dr. Andrew Wakefield, a phenomenal British scientist, who has spent the last 20 years trying to put the link between the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine and autism.

01:13:01.000 But I think more important than if it's mercury, if it's not mercury, there is something that's causing it.

01:13:07.000 And vaccines is very, very suspicious.

01:13:10.000 Be it the mercury or some of the other components.

01:13:12.000 There's more other components of vaccines that could be creating a problem.

01:13:17.000 And what I see as a problem is if they believe that vaccines aren't the cause, tell us what the cause is.

01:13:25.000 Well, I have to tell you, doctor, so many times we sit here and we debate things that are already provable.

01:13:30.000 We have the CDC documents from 2000 that Congressman Dan Burton's committee was able to get by subpoena where the heads of the CDC are in a meeting saying, quote, I wouldn't give this to my granddaughter.

01:13:41.000 We've brain damaged millions.

01:13:42.000 We've got to cover this up.

01:13:44.000 I mean, those are quotes.

01:13:45.000 From the minutes of the meetings, so the CDC says that their internal studies show that it is the thimerosal mercury being the prime thing doing this.

01:13:56.000 Then we look at autism being in what now?

01:14:00.000 1 in 166 and those numbers growing and clearly having the same symptoms as mercury exposure to the brain.

01:14:08.000 There's no question about it.

01:14:09.000 Clearly there are other causes of autism because autism existed before mercury.

01:14:14.000 The enormous increase, and the idea of injecting mercury into children, or adults for that matter, the flu vaccine has mercury in it, you know?

01:14:23.000 It just makes no sense.

01:14:24.000 Well, another thing, sir, I saw an AAP article, and perhaps you can give me your take on this, or your knowledge on this.

01:14:32.000 They said that they've, quote, taken thimerosal out, but then I read what they've done is they've made non-thimerosal available, but the thimerosal vaccines are still being made, and actually the AAP said Well, let me tell you something.

01:14:46.000 I think, Alex, you've opened up the same can of worms that you've talked about so many things.

01:14:52.000 that the new flu shots even have more. - Well, let me tell you something.

01:14:55.000 I think, Alex, you've opened up the same can of worms that you've talked about so many things.

01:15:01.000 Who's telling the truth?

01:15:03.000 You know, you can't trust any statements.

01:15:05.000 I can tell you what, who knows, but I can tell you something.

01:15:09.000 You know, there's also mercury in the RhoGAM vaccine.

01:15:12.000 That's the vaccine that's given to pregnant women after the baby's born if they're Rh negative and the baby is Rh positive.

01:15:20.000 And it contains thimerosal.

01:15:21.000 Then they allegedly had a non-thimerosal version.

01:15:25.000 I called the company because we had about 10 doses in our office.

01:15:29.000 And, uh, I said, I want to exchange them.

01:15:30.000 He says, oh, why do you want to exchange them?

01:15:33.000 You know, uh, they aren't, those aren't dangerous.

01:15:35.000 I said, no problem.

01:15:36.000 If they're not dangerous, you'll give them to somebody else who thinks they're not dangerous.

01:15:40.000 You know, uh, and then they admitted they didn't have thimerosal free rogaine.

01:15:44.000 It's really, really interesting.

01:15:46.000 I, um, I, I don't know the answer.

01:15:48.000 I just can't figure out because I can't figure out why they're putting thimerosal in, except you need thimerosal.

01:15:55.000 If you're going to have multi-dose vaccines, I don't understand unless, you know, I'm not a chemist or a biochemist, but I don't understand the need for it.

01:16:04.000 That's what bothers me so much.

01:16:06.000 And no one has explained, forget about if it's causing autism, not why isn't it there in the first place?

01:16:12.000 Well, I know this.

01:16:15.000 I've read the different studies and different news reports.

01:16:17.000 They say there's a whole bunch of other things that aren't bad for you that can be used to suspend and keep the monkey pus and vomit basically in its original format.

01:16:29.000 Yeah, no, I think you're right.

01:16:31.000 Don't you find it interesting that, if you remember, anyone who wears contact lenses, about five years ago, they banned all thimerosal from the saline solution that was used to clean your contact lenses.

01:16:45.000 Not to clean them, to just wash them.

01:16:47.000 And now it all says thimerosal-free.

01:16:50.000 Interesting.

01:16:50.000 Something that you put into the eyes that possibly will get absorbed or not, but something that's injected into a baby, they don't worry about.

01:16:57.000 Well, they weren't stupid. 0.72

01:16:58.000 They knew that that was going to cause massive brain damage. 0.97

01:17:01.000 I mean, look, I have a local newscast from that government-funded study that came out two years ago.

01:17:06.000 Remember when they said, oh, studies show mercury actually helps brain development.

01:17:10.000 Did you ever see that report?

01:17:12.000 Just unbelievable.

01:17:12.000 Unbelievable.

01:17:13.000 So you did see that report?

01:17:14.000 Yes, I did.

01:17:15.000 Yes, I did.

01:17:17.000 It was the same report all over the country to show the propaganda value of mercury we've found is actually good, but everybody knows mercury is like one of the most deadly heavy metals in the brain, is it not doctor?

01:17:26.000 Well let me tell you something, the pediatricians won't allow you, at least they recommend you should have no thermometers with mercury just in case it spills.

01:17:34.000 You know, there's warnings about fish with mercury which in my mind carry way less problems Let's go ahead and roll that clip from CBS here locally.

01:17:44.000 It's about 30 seconds.

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01:18:17.000 These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually be associated with improved behavior and mental performance.

01:18:27.000 Oh my God!

01:18:30.000 We're the weirdos, Dr. Eisenstein.

01:18:30.000 No, no, no.

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01:23:02.000 You know, I just realized something.

01:23:08.000 The Genesis Network going out over, I don't know, a total of 300 or something affiliates of all the shows combined.

01:23:16.000 ...is number one in one thing, and that is cheesy commercials.

01:23:20.000 I'm sorry, the commercials we cut, I'm sure they're very effective, though, because they're so annoying.

01:23:25.000 I'm listening to some of those ads, I mean, it's, I have to say it, it makes my RTF days look like, look godly.

01:23:34.000 Okay, I'm sorry, it's all about honesty here, folks, and that was unbelievable.

01:23:39.000 We're talking about very, very serious issues, and you talk about unbelievable.

01:23:43.000 All over the country, Uh, CBS sends out these little news reads for their local affiliates to do.

01:23:49.000 So that's warrior government propaganda.

01:23:50.000 And when I saw that news piece two years ago, right before school started, I typed it into Google and found hundreds of CBS News affiliates with the exact same information.

01:24:02.000 So there's your propaganda.

01:24:03.000 Dr. Eisenstein?

01:24:05.000 Yes.

01:24:06.000 I mean, people watch the news and, hey, mercury's good for you now, but everybody knows it's deadly.

01:24:10.000 Let me tell you something.

01:24:12.000 I think there's so much backlash here from the CDC and the pediatricians, as some polls have shown that 35% of families in this country are questioning vaccines.

01:24:24.000 You know, you get defensive, like the pediatricians are, and all of a sudden they start digging their heels in and creating more nonsense, you know, rather than facing the facts and saying that, you know, maybe this is a problem.

01:24:36.000 You know, it may be that vaccines in general are good.

01:24:40.000 I use the word maybe in very big quotes, but we surely don't have the evidence to show that.

01:24:45.000 And just the idea of telling parents you must vaccinate makes absolutely no sense.

01:24:50.000 Well, in the UPI article, it had the federal numbers of the 1 in 24,000 having autism 25 years ago, and then the numbers over the years are now 1 in 166.

01:25:00.000 But the local doctors, they'll try to say, well, that's over-reporting.

01:25:04.000 But like you said last time, there's no way to miss these autistic children.

01:25:08.000 This isn't over-reporting.

01:25:09.000 Exactly.

01:25:09.000 I mean, you know, I've been in practice now for over 32 years, and I don't see any difference between what's described as an autistic child 32 years ago and what's reported today and uh... uh... you know it's I don't understand this over-reporting.

01:25:26.000 I mean, who's doing this over-reporting?

01:25:29.000 Well, I mean, that's not what it is.

01:25:30.000 I mean, I remember as a child, I didn't see any autistic children.

01:25:34.000 Now, I mean, what?

01:25:36.000 Most public schools have whole rooms just filled with them?

01:25:39.000 Exactly, you know.

01:25:41.000 Well, I think there is a little bit of over-reporting, just to put... It's not a question of over-reporting.

01:25:46.000 They've just...

01:25:47.000 increased the diagnosis or stretched the diagnosis.

01:25:51.000 - They're looking more of the neurological problems caused by the vaccines themselves under that term.

01:25:57.000 - Exactly, I think you put it right.

01:25:59.000 It's no different than polio in the 50s was an over-exaggerated disease because they started calling anything that was a respiratory illness polio.

01:26:09.000 And that's where you have the numbers of 60,000 or 100,000 cases in the early 50s.

01:26:13.000 There were nowhere near that many cases.

01:26:16.000 And you know, it's the same type of thing.

01:26:19.000 They were so intent on promoting the vaccine that don't bother me with the facts.

01:26:27.000 And now there's clear evidence that millions of people have gotten cancer through SV40.

01:26:31.000 Well, there's no doubt about that.

01:26:34.000 I mean, I wrote an article and it said that, you know, maybe the polio vaccine was good.

01:26:41.000 Maybe it even eliminated polio.

01:26:43.000 What are the prices we're paying for it?

01:26:45.000 You pointed out very well, Alex.

01:26:47.000 That the price we're paying for now are these unwanted viruses that have attached themselves to these vaccines that are now floating around in all of our bodies.

01:26:58.000 By the way, Daughter, from what I've seen, it's not just that old vaccine.

01:27:00.000 There's lots of vaccines that have these cancer-causing viruses in them.

01:27:05.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:27:08.000 My whole issue with vaccines, at least publicly, started with the Hepatitis B vaccine.

01:27:12.000 Here's the first vaccine that became a requirement in most states.

01:27:17.000 It had nothing to do with a contagious disease.

01:27:20.000 It was sexually transmitted disease and really stepped very clearly on the boundaries of what you're allowed to tell a family to or not to do or not allowed family to practice their own way of life.

01:27:33.000 And we invited the head of pathology at St.

01:27:37.000 Mary of Hospital Medical Center To come and talk to us about the Hepatitis B vaccine, because my interest was that it was now being recommended to one day old babies, yet there was not a single study that I could find under five years of age that they had done.

01:27:52.000 And he came there and what he said was more earth-shocking than anything I've heard.

01:27:57.000 He said that every viral vaccine has at least 500 contaminants hooked onto it and we haven't even discovered them.

01:28:07.000 So it's only when we see problems do we realize that they're there.

01:28:11.000 Terrifying.

01:28:14.000 Absolutely.

01:28:15.000 It's just unbelievable.

01:28:17.000 Dr. Eisenstein, stay with us.

01:28:18.000 Quick break, long segment coming up.

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01:28:24.000 Talking about vaccines and a lot of other health issues.

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01:32:09.000 It's an amazing book written by Dr. Eisenstein, who joins us.

01:32:13.000 Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate is the result of Dr. Eisenstein's lectures on vaccinations.

01:32:17.000 Dr. Eisenstein brings his knowledge as a physician, public health doctor, and attorney.

01:32:22.000 I mean, this guy's got, again, more letters to his name than an encyclopedia.

01:32:27.000 To help educate you on this very important subject, Dr. Eisenstein presents scientific literature, both pro and con, vaccine.

01:32:35.000 He comes to the conclusion that scientific studies alone will not be enough to decide the benefit versus risk of vaccine programs.

01:32:40.000 Therefore, he concludes that for personal religious convictions, not scientific studies, are the main reason upon which to base your vaccination decision.

01:32:51.000 Dr. Eisenstein, when did you decide to write this book?

01:32:54.000 About four or five years ago.

01:32:59.000 I was holding a series of lectures, but I still do.

01:33:02.000 Every two months we have a Monday night seminar on vaccines.

01:33:08.000 And I was hearing more and more people ask me, "How can I avoid vaccines?" They've already gone past that they're going to take them.

01:33:16.000 And I've gone through all the... This is for Illinois law.

01:33:19.000 Illinois law allows you to avoid vaccines with a medical documentation or religious documentation.

01:33:29.000 And it's basically the same in all 50 states.

01:33:32.000 Mississippi is the only state that does not require a He does not recognize a religious exemption.

01:33:40.000 And by the way, in this book, you give the laws, you give the codes, you give examples of the letters.

01:33:46.000 I mean, this, folks, for parents that call me every day going, should I vaccinate?

01:33:50.000 My family says it's wonderful.

01:33:51.000 It's all lies.

01:33:52.000 Vaccines are good.

01:33:54.000 You've got in this book how there's 500 fragments of stuff that could cause cancer.

01:33:58.000 Not just as a carcinogen, but actually reprogram your cells.

01:34:01.000 You've got the evidence of the mercury, and then you've got what the laws are.

01:34:05.000 Because another thing, Dr. Eisenstein, is every year, right before school, they go, it's the law.

01:34:09.000 Better come in and take your shot. 0.95

01:34:11.000 You'll be arrested. 1.00

01:34:12.000 More lies.

01:34:13.000 Exactly.

01:34:14.000 Well, you know, well, I'm not sure it's a lie.

01:34:16.000 I mean, they've kept children out of school, and then I've had multiple children who I've dealt with.

01:34:22.000 But then, see, there's not a law you have to vaccinate.

01:34:25.000 They say you can't come, then they say you're truant.

01:34:29.000 Exactly.

01:34:30.000 You know what's so interesting?

01:34:32.000 TV a couple of years ago on Hannity and Combs, and they had one of the former Surgeon Generals on, and she was just blasting parents that didn't vaccinate their children. 0.83

01:34:42.000 And I asked her the question, you know, what if you're a Christian scientist and you don't vaccinate religious?

01:34:48.000 Oh, that's all right.

01:34:49.000 So I said, you mean, and those children are allowed to go to school, which means you believe that these vaccines are so important that children can't go to school because they'll be dangerous to other children.

01:34:59.000 And now if you're a Christian Scientist, that's not a problem, is that I've become a Christian Scientist then, because obviously that's a very powerful God.

01:35:06.000 It shows you the ridiculousness of all this, you know. 0.92

01:35:09.000 Even the religious exemption carries a ridiculousness in my mind.

01:35:13.000 Not that it's wrong, I'm not stepping on anyone's religious beliefs, but how does that stop you from something that allegedly is going to be problematic for other people?

01:35:21.000 Makes no sense.

01:35:23.000 Well, that's why most states have now added just a conscientious objection.

01:35:28.000 Well, I wish it was.

01:35:29.000 There's only 18 states right now, and one by one they're dropping out because of the pressure.

01:35:35.000 It used to be 25 or 30 states, and last count, I think only 18 states allow Well, you know, there's this argument of, if your kid isn't vaccinated, my kid will get sick.

01:35:45.000 just that you personally don't believe in giving vaccines.

01:35:48.000 Well, you know, there's this argument of if your kid isn't vaccinated, my kid will get sick.

01:35:52.000 Meanwhile, we have record illegal aliens pouring in.

01:35:56.000 We've gone from 10 cases a few years ago of leprosy a year to over 7,000.

01:36:01.000 They've had to open huge leper colonies here in Texas. 1.00

01:36:06.000 We've got drug-resistant TB spreading everywhere.

01:36:08.000 They spray the food shipped up here from Latin America.

01:36:11.000 We talked about this last time with human feces with a hepatitis on it.

01:36:15.000 I mean, so it's, they don't care about you getting diseases, folks.

01:36:19.000 This is a big lobby that makes tens of billions of dollars a year that lobbies the government to try to force you to do it.

01:36:26.000 I mean, if we're a free country, we shouldn't have to take these vaccines.

01:36:30.000 Exactly.

01:36:30.000 Boy, I tell you, you've hit it right on the point.

01:36:32.000 And I agree with you.

01:36:33.000 Why are we not worried about the illegal aliens? 1.00

01:36:36.000 I mean, seemingly that's a much bigger problem than vaccines.

01:36:39.000 Yet the vaccines are the ones that they seem to be going after.

01:36:44.000 Now, go over what's in the book, because again, folks, I've read it, it's amazing, we're selling it, you need to get it.

01:36:49.000 Tell us what we'll learn, and don't vaccinate before you educate.

01:36:52.000 Well, I think it'll give you... I picked three vaccines.

01:36:55.000 I picked the chickenpox vaccine, the hepatitis B vaccine, the flu vaccine, because I believe of all the vaccines, These three have the least credibility.

01:37:04.000 And there was something I learned in law school that I really liked.

01:37:07.000 I actually loved law school.

01:37:08.000 That's the funniest thing.

01:37:09.000 I didn't care for medical school.

01:37:11.000 I loved law school.

01:37:12.000 But I thank God every day that I'm a doctor, because my wife said, you never would have married me if I was a lawyer, because I would just be, you know, angry every day, as opposed to really enjoying what I do, helping delivering babies and nursing children.

01:37:25.000 We learned in law school a principle, and it's falsos and uno, falsos and omnibus.

01:37:32.000 It means that if you make a false statement in court under testimony on one thing, the jury is allowed, the judge will instruct them to disregard everything that witness has said.

01:37:44.000 And what fascinated me about that, because that goes along with the vaccines.

01:37:49.000 I can't see why anyone would give the Hepatitis B vaccine why it has to be mandated.

01:37:54.000 And once they did that, it threw me over the edge that this makes no sense.

01:37:59.000 That they now have to justify their whole position.

01:38:02.000 And so I spend time on each of those three vaccines.

01:38:05.000 I also go over The Illinois law and most states law are about the same and you can go on the internet and get your state law and I give explanations to the law and I go over some of the cases which have softened the vaccine issue as far as religious exemption.

01:38:23.000 There was a great case in Wyoming just a couple of years ago where a mother had given all the vaccines up until the hepatitis B and then she said that's it I'm not giving that's a sexually transmitted disease.

01:38:36.000 What message am I sending my child if I give them this vaccine that they can go out and have sex with someone as hepatitis B?

01:38:42.000 Well, number one, it's admittedly, as you know, doctor, the studies show one of the most overtly dangerous vaccines.

01:38:48.000 Why is it being given to a baby within minutes of being out of the womb?

01:38:52.000 Exactly.

01:38:53.000 I mean, this makes no sense.

01:38:54.000 And interestingly, for a while, they were talking about the dangers of the vaccine.

01:38:58.000 That seemed to fall by the wayside for whatever reason, you know.

01:39:03.000 Well, this case is an interesting case because the school board, which was the head of the, they were the lead witnesses for the prosecution to throw this woman's child out of school, said that she had given other vaccines and therefore she can't claim a religious exemption in court.

01:39:23.000 You know, occasionally they make some very brilliant statements.

01:39:26.000 And they said that just because someone has some opinions one day, doesn't mean they necessarily have to have them the next day.

01:39:32.000 And that was essentially their opinion.

01:39:34.000 Well, exactly!

01:39:35.000 It's not like you can't then... Well, you were once a devil worshipper, so now you can't be a Christian. 1.00

01:39:41.000 That's exactly right.

01:39:43.000 It was brilliant, and it's been the law in Wyoming, and all the states have adopted it, that a valid religious exemption doesn't allow the school board to do an investigation to the sincerity of your beliefs, how long these beliefs have been.

01:39:59.000 And that's kind of important.

01:40:00.000 I bring references to that case because that's really an important case.

01:40:03.000 It's kind of like we'd like all of America to be.

01:40:05.000 But the good news is we've gone from, what, 5% 10 years ago not vaccinating to 35% as you said, some of the numbers I've seen.

01:40:14.000 At the more wealthy hospitals, I've actually talked to some of the Pediatricians and others, they're saying that around half the parents here in Austin, obviously more progressive, more educated area, are now refusing, in one particular hospital where I know doctors, about half of them are now refusing, doctor.

01:40:32.000 And let me tell you something, I think it goes along with the... It's not, I think, even that families know you should or shouldn't vaccinate, but it's just brought up so many issues that haven't been answered, and when someone kind of Sluffs you off, or I can't think of the right word for it, you know.

01:40:51.000 They don't take you serious.

01:40:52.000 That's the bottom line.

01:40:53.000 The pediatricians are taking the mother serious.

01:40:56.000 And they're saying, just trust me, I'm your doctor.

01:40:59.000 Well, you know, I don't trust you.

01:41:00.000 You've already done other things, you know.

01:41:02.000 I'm coming to you for your opinion, but I don't definitely trust you.

01:41:04.000 Well, doctor, I'll throw something at you, because you're obviously trained as a pediatrician, as well as many other areas of medicine.

01:41:09.000 But did you know that for 32 years, When they take the two to three ampules of blood and they claim that one of them goes to the health department and the other to the state, do you know where those blood samples really go?

01:41:22.000 Which blood samples are you talking about?

01:41:24.000 You know how they claim, I forget the scientific name of the test itself, but they test for blood diseases?

01:41:29.000 They take the blood from the baby's heel at birth? 0.95

01:41:31.000 Oh, right, okay, right, right.

01:41:33.000 No, I don't know.

01:41:36.000 I've actually had a congressman on about this, and it actually goes to a federal DNA database.

01:41:41.000 Oh, that's terrifying.

01:41:43.000 That's terrifying.

01:41:43.000 But I mean, I've talked to so many doctors who aren't even aware of that.

01:41:46.000 You know, it's just a state-mandated thing in those states that, oh, and we just take the blood sample and send it off to the health department, and doctors never ask, why aren't we doing the test here?

01:41:54.000 Why don't we send it off to the health department?

01:41:56.000 Well, they do the test at the health department, but then the rest of the blood is sent off to the federal government.

01:42:02.000 You know, I'm not sure I want to listen to your show anymore.

01:42:05.000 You run such a good show that you get more scared and more scared after the show.

01:42:11.000 You don't have a comfort level.

01:42:12.000 You don't sleep well at night anymore.

01:42:14.000 Well, Dr. Eisenstein, as you know, we've got to stand up against this.

01:42:18.000 I agree.

01:42:18.000 I totally agree.

01:42:20.000 I've got a bunch of callers that want to talk to you, but specifically, let's get into Mercury.

01:42:25.000 I put video clips under electron microscopes on Infowars.com.

01:42:30.000 Where it shows what other heavy metals do to live neurons, but then when they get near a mercury molecule, it actually makes them explode.

01:42:39.000 It causes an electrochemical reaction, but then they try to claim that it isn't bad for you.

01:42:45.000 Can you medically speak to what mercury does to the brain?

01:42:48.000 Well, we know that mercury is a toxin, you know, and it's been one of my theories.

01:42:55.000 Valid scientific evidence is that the increase in autism that we have is because of the so many, not autism, in Alzheimer's disease and what they call senile brain dementia is because so many of our seniors have been taking flu vaccine after flu vaccine and the accumulation of the mercury in the body.

01:43:21.000 No one argues, at least, but you have to get away from the medical journals, Alex.

01:43:25.000 You've got to look at the biochemical journals, you know, the veterinary literature.

01:43:31.000 There, some of the truth is buried, you know, just like you're trying to bring it out to the public.

01:43:37.000 Mercury is no good in any form.

01:43:40.000 There are actually studies that in the Alzheimer brains, they're finding higher levels of aluminum, higher levels of mercury, higher levels of lead, and that generally, obviously, Alzheimer's is a, as you said earlier, kind of a lumping in of a bunch of different problems, but that one of the predominant traits and one of the indicators for many of your, what you call, Alzheimer's cases is heavy metal saturation.

01:44:06.000 Exactly, and you know, I talked to Mr. Dan Olmstead, the senior writer from UPI, who's a phenomenal writer and really researches well.

01:44:15.000 I've asked him if he could extend his research on autism to look at groups of seniors who don't take the flu vaccine.

01:44:24.000 They exist, but you've got to find them and find what the percentage of Alzheimer's is.

01:44:30.000 National statistics, you know, pre-flu shot, where they really pushed on the old people. 0.87

01:44:36.000 I mean, in the past, you know, it's just well known that people would get a senile, but it was more of a slow thing in the older ages.

01:44:43.000 Now, it's just, boom, they're suddenly gone.

01:44:45.000 It's like autism.

01:44:46.000 It's out of control.

01:44:47.000 That's exactly right.

01:44:48.000 I mean, there's got to be something.

01:44:51.000 I don't know if there has to be a linkage, but we surely should look at it very carefully.

01:44:55.000 I've seen the studies where they show that we know the brains, on average, have more heavy metal in them.

01:45:00.000 Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

01:45:01.000 But you know, then they start saying it's from car pollution and that, you know.

01:45:04.000 But that doesn't compare to something that's injected directly into your body.

01:45:08.000 Well, I think it's a cocktail.

01:45:10.000 I mean, you know, you throw in the vaccines on top of 50 years of drinking out of aluminum cans, and you just start, I mean, it's just, it's like the Romans would, especially the wealthy, would die a lot younger than just the average slaves, because the average slaves weren't drinking the fine wines out of the lead-lined caress.

01:45:28.000 That's right, right, exactly.

01:45:29.000 Well said.

01:45:30.000 Well said.

01:45:31.000 And there they were, sucking down the wine with lead in it.

01:45:33.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:45:35.000 It's insane, Doctor.

01:45:38.000 The cups, the styrofoam cups, bleach products, you know, and I know it's terrifying, you know, it's like, what are you supposed to do, you know?

01:45:49.000 You've got to just, but I agree, you can't give up.

01:45:51.000 Well, there are hundreds of studies that, and it's proven that these new microwave range cell phones heat the brain after five minutes over one degree, and that it is directly linked to different cancers, but people aren't going to stop.

01:46:08.000 No, because it's become so much part of our life to use cell phones.

01:46:11.000 I mean, it's really difficult.

01:46:13.000 And I don't know.

01:46:15.000 Look, I use the cell phone a lot.

01:46:16.000 It's a pretty good part of my job.

01:46:17.000 And I've got the wireless system, and I still don't do it a lot, too.

01:46:21.000 I know.

01:46:22.000 We're all committing suicide here.

01:46:24.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:46:25.000 I definitely think so.

01:46:26.000 We're just like the Romans, drinking lead-lined cups. 0.99

01:46:31.000 Well, I think we should all invest in the funeral business.

01:46:35.000 People are dying to get in there.

01:46:37.000 Well, I tell you, Dr. Eisenstein, we are so honored to have you as a guest.

01:46:40.000 I want to take a call or two and keep you here with us.

01:46:45.000 But folks, I don't carry junk.

01:46:47.000 I got Dr. Eisenstein's book about a month ago in the mail.

01:46:51.000 I read it.

01:46:52.000 We had Dr. Eisenstein on, and I'm carrying this book, and he is a gracious, very well-educated, very well-informed individual who just kept seeing the evidence himself.

01:47:02.000 Look, he told you!

01:47:03.000 He said, as a medical doctor, I said, why are they trying to mandate that I give newborn babies hepatitis C shot, admittedly dangerous, and you get it from sexually transmitted or from blood transfusion.

01:47:17.000 Why are we doing this?

01:47:19.000 And they have no answer.

01:47:20.000 Last question before we take calls, sir.

01:47:22.000 Why do you think that they're pushing to give drug manufacturer immunity for the vaccine makers?

01:47:30.000 I think their lobbies are that powerful.

01:47:32.000 They contribute so much to the funds of politicians, you know.

01:47:36.000 And each vaccine that goes out becomes a multi-billion dollar profit for the drug companies.

01:47:43.000 That's the only thing I can think of.

01:47:44.000 It's all tied back to the same thing, you know.

01:47:48.000 They're part of that inside cult.

01:47:51.000 that runs this country on the secret.

01:47:55.000 Well folks, if you have any neighbors or friends or children that are about to have children For heaven's sakes, get Dr. Eisenstein's well-researched book.

01:48:05.000 He is a medical doctor in multiple fields and a lawyer, and this is the whole process about should you get vaccinated, what happens with the schools later.

01:48:15.000 This is a desk record.

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01:48:18.000 This should be read by everybody.

01:48:19.000 If you've got children or are thinking about having children, Everybody should buy this and give this to school nurses and local pediatricians, all these ignorant people, so they can at least have a chance to know the truth.

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01:53:07.000 Well, it's clear we've got to have Dr. Eisenstein up for two hours some time to go over the mercury, the lead, the Alzheimer's, all of it, but clearly Autism was very, very rare, and then now it's just everywhere.

01:53:22.000 I mean, you see the kids everywhere.

01:53:23.000 Would you agree with that statement, Doctor?

01:53:26.000 I 100% agree with that, you know, and I really appreciate it.

01:53:27.000 It's my pleasure to be on with you.

01:53:29.000 I mean, it's a real pleasure.

01:53:31.000 Now, it's a pleasure to have more and more doctors going public, and you're one of the frontrunners.

01:53:35.000 Carlos in California, you're on the air with Dr. Eisenstein.

01:53:38.000 Go ahead.

01:53:39.000 Happy New Year to both of you.

01:53:41.000 Dr. Eisenstein, you know, my kids got vaccinated with Hepatitis B vaccine, And this was several years ago, and at the time, I already had concerns about vaccines, and I voiced my concern to the school, because I didn't want him vaccinated, but they said, if you want your kid to school, he's gotta be vaccinated.

01:54:03.000 They were liars.

01:54:04.000 They knew that they had the waiver form in their desk. 0.97

01:54:06.000 Doctor?

01:54:07.000 That's absolutely right.

01:54:08.000 I mean, Alex is absolutely telling the truth.

01:54:10.000 I mean, uh...

01:54:11.000 They weren't willing to tell you the whole story.

01:54:13.000 They gave you part of the story.

01:54:17.000 It's called lying by omission.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, and in legal terms that's like selling someone a house and not showing them every problem that you have that's in the house.

01:54:29.000 I agree with you Alex and Carlos.

01:54:31.000 I think that, you know, here's the good news.

01:54:34.000 The good news is, in spite of all this, most of us do okay.

01:54:38.000 That's the good news.

01:54:39.000 It's not the way it should be.

01:54:40.000 Yeah, we're pretty tough.

01:54:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:54:43.000 But it's not because of what happened.

01:54:45.000 It's in spite of it.

01:54:46.000 Folks, if you can just keep them from anything for a couple of years, your child is going to do a lot better.

01:54:52.000 You know, Carlos, if you find yourself a doctor who's willing to give parents choice on vaccine, they're starting to pop up all around the country.

01:55:02.000 I mean, even small towns have it.

01:55:03.000 Just type it into a search engine.

01:55:05.000 Exactly.

01:55:06.000 What are some of the terms you'd use, doctor, to find a good doctor?

01:55:10.000 Well, you know, I would look to the The Christian scientist, the Jehovah's Witness, I would call them, you know, rather than type it in, because it will be difficult to find that way, and see who they go to. 1.00

01:55:23.000 And that's always been, historically, a way of looking for doctors.

01:55:28.000 I'd also look at La Leche League leaders, that's the organization of Mothers Who Breastfeed, and they are clearly involved in, indirectly, in... You type it in Google, I mean, you want a vet that doesn't believe in vaccination, you type it in, you get 50 of them in Austin.

01:55:44.000 You want a major pediatrician in a clinic that'll, you know, leave you alone on vaccines, you type it in, 10 pop up.

01:55:52.000 Yeah.

01:55:54.000 Well, I have two daughters who are veterinarians.

01:55:56.000 So, you know, I know what you're saying.

01:55:58.000 I mean, they've got real problems with all the veterinary vaccines.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, you think human vaccines are bad?

01:56:06.000 Yeah, and the only argument my daughters say is that the animals don't live as long, so they don't have as much time to develop these problems, you know, but they're against most of the vaccines that are given to the animals.

01:56:19.000 Well, uh, we've, uh, I mean, you know, you take your dog into the vet, it gets vaccines and has a convulsion when you get home.

01:56:25.000 I mean, you stop giving it to him.

01:56:27.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:56:28.000 I mean, it's real simple.

01:56:28.000 Carlos, anything else?

01:56:31.000 Carlos is gone.

01:56:32.000 Let's, let's jam one more caller in here. 0.60

01:56:34.000 Gotta move quickly.

01:56:35.000 Shannon in Florida.

01:56:36.000 Go ahead, Shannon.

01:56:37.000 Yes, hi.

01:56:37.000 I want to ask the doctor a question.

01:56:39.000 My daughter was born a preemie at seven and a half months, but by the time she started school, she was on the line of retardation. 1.00

01:56:47.000 And I mean, do you think it's a good possibility that all the stuff they gave her did this?

01:56:51.000 Well, it's possible.

01:56:53.000 How much did your daughter weigh when she was born?

01:56:55.000 Right at, she was close to 5 pounds. 1.00

01:56:58.000 Close to 5 pounds.

01:56:59.000 You know, the one thing we know that premature babies have potentially more problems And they have to be handled way more delicately.

01:57:08.000 And that's the ones they rush in with all the injections for.

01:57:10.000 Exactly.

01:57:12.000 I mean, it's... Doctor, stay there.

01:57:13.000 Can you do five more minutes with us?

01:57:14.000 Of course.

01:57:16.000 Shannon, thanks for the call.

01:57:17.000 We'll get a comment.

01:57:18.000 We'll talk to Mike in California.

01:57:20.000 And yes, we got Michael Rivero coming up in the next hour.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Well, look, I know we got loaded phones and people want to talk about the spying and Bush's speeches and the upcoming war with Iran and they told Turkey, get ready for us to use your air bases to smash Iran. 0.55

01:58:19.000 I mean, it's just getting World War III looming.

01:58:23.000 Pray it doesn't happen.

01:58:25.000 We got Michael Rivero joining us.

01:58:27.000 Loaded phone lines on several banks here.

01:58:31.000 Just a few more calls for Dr. Eisenstein, who we've been so honored to have with us, such a gentleman, so well-educated, a trailblazer exposing vaccination, very even-handed in his book, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, which you can get from InfoWars.com, or you can get it from HomeFirst.com, along with a lot of other amazing literature and products.

01:58:52.000 But right now, Shannon's comment, I've seen the statistics, reports, interviews, scores of other medical doctors on this subject, Dr. Eisenstein, and we'll see if you concur with this, but that obviously, mercury poisoning is per weight, so you give four or five vaccines at birth to some three pound preemie, and I've seen this in the news, and then the child has a convulsion and dies right there.

01:59:14.000 I mean, what's wrong with these pediatricians, sir?

01:59:17.000 That's exactly right.

01:59:17.000 What's wrong with these pediatricians?

01:59:20.000 Prematurity itself is a very serious problem.

01:59:23.000 The last thing in the world you want to do is add to the problems.

01:59:26.000 Makes no sense.

01:59:27.000 There's masses of foreign stuff cooked up on monkey kidneys. 0.98

01:59:32.000 Makes absolutely no sense.

01:59:33.000 You know, let me tell you, it goes the same thing.

01:59:35.000 Many pediatricians won't allow a premature baby to breastfeed.

01:59:39.000 And if the baby's too weak to nurse, you can express the milk and give it to the baby.

01:59:44.000 And we know that that's the best food for the baby.

01:59:46.000 It makes no sense.

01:59:48.000 Yeah, they try to take the baby away, and frankly, the doctors don't even know it, but a lot of these guidelines have been written just to make more money.

01:59:55.000 Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

01:59:57.000 And unfortunately, doctors are good followers.

01:59:59.000 That's one of the sad parts.

02:00:01.000 It goes along with their whole education.

02:00:03.000 Just give the answer that the teacher told you so you've got the best grade.

02:00:07.000 Let's not give milk full of colostrum and full of natural antibodies.

02:00:12.000 I mean, that's literally everything.

02:00:14.000 I mean, is that true, doctor, that everything the mother has become immune to is transferred to that baby?

02:00:18.000 Well, I don't know of everything, but a whole lot, you know.

02:00:22.000 So that is the natural vaccination?

02:00:25.000 Exactly.

02:00:25.000 That's exactly what it is.

02:00:27.000 You know, breastfeeding is God's vaccine. 1.00

02:00:32.000 It's like, here it is.

02:00:35.000 But you know, we're kind of extreme.

02:00:36.000 We think mercury is bad for children.

02:00:38.000 The news says it's nutritious, and we think milk is good.

02:00:42.000 Mother's milk is bad.

02:00:43.000 Maybe we should just start giving them pure mercury.

02:00:46.000 I mean, if you did it, they'd die, but maybe that's life.

02:00:49.000 Oh my God, you're not kidding.

02:00:51.000 You're not kidding.

02:00:51.000 It's really sad.

02:00:56.000 Alex, with programs like yours, I think the awareness is getting... Yeah, that's the good news.

02:01:01.000 Despite all their propaganda, we're gaining ground, aren't we, Doctor?

02:01:04.000 I absolutely think so.

02:01:06.000 And what's so interesting is that they talk about how you win a war.

02:01:10.000 And this is a war of politics, in a sense, also.

02:01:14.000 You win a war not by changing the minds of people who oppose you, but by increasing the number of people who agree with you.

02:01:21.000 That's right, and we're winning.

02:01:22.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in California.

02:01:24.000 Last caller.

02:01:25.000 Got about 40 seconds.

02:01:26.000 Go ahead, caller.

02:01:27.000 Hi.

02:01:27.000 Alex?

02:01:28.000 Yes, sir.

02:01:28.000 Hi.

02:01:29.000 Thank you for your show.

02:01:30.000 I just really wanted to say I appreciate it greatly.

02:01:34.000 I have two questions.

02:01:35.000 I'll make them quick.

02:01:36.000 First of all, Doctor, do you know a process where children That's number one.

02:01:43.000 through a cleanse, like a chelation therapy.

02:01:45.000 - Yeah, detox. - And they can get all this mercury out of them. 0.96

02:01:48.000 - That's number one, number two.

02:01:49.000 - And two of them, and the second one is, Alex, do you know anything of the best shortwave radio?

02:01:55.000 'Cause you're only on KCAA for one hour. - Okay, let me comment on the affiliate thing after this break, and then let me get Dr. Eisenstein to comment on the chelation.

02:02:08.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:02:08.000 Well, you know, a lot of doctors are involved with chelation.

02:02:11.000 Now, I don't know how effective it is, because, you know, it's like Once you put problems in, it's hard to get the problems out.

02:02:18.000 But there's some new literature on even safe regulation, just creams that you rub on the feet, which will pull out the metals from the system.

02:02:30.000 And so I think this is clearly research worth looking into.

02:02:33.000 But I always like, let's get it before the fact, after the fact.

02:02:37.000 Exactly.

02:02:37.000 We're going to have to get you back on, Doctor.

02:02:39.000 My pleasure.

02:02:40.000 I'm looking forward to it.

02:02:41.000 Take care.

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02:05:57.000 Well, our guest, Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com can speak on any issue.

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02:06:07.000 I know that we have Francis and Stan and others that have been holding for ever.

02:06:12.000 We'll get to you early in this hour.

02:06:16.000 We're connecting to Michael Rivero in his home in Hawaii.

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02:06:20.000 We're trying to get that in place right now and we'll get him on.

02:06:24.000 This is our first live show of 2006.

02:06:29.000 Welcome to everyone.

02:06:29.000 We've got about 51 minutes left here today and there's just a plethora, an entire archipelago of just overt criminal activities in our faces.

02:06:47.000 In our face.

02:06:48.000 And I want to talk to Michael Rivero about just the propaganda.

02:06:51.000 How they tell us that, oh look, these Iraqi newspapers are all free, we brought them freedom.

02:06:57.000 And look, they love the government, they love the occupation, and it turns out no one's allowed to write anything anti-US or anti-globalist.

02:07:04.000 Or they're taking over.

02:07:06.000 And it's all paid for, and that news is used here domestically.

02:07:11.000 They have the military surveilling us here domestically.

02:07:15.000 And then, meanwhile, we have the Pentagon program ordering soldiers to promote Iraq war while at home on leave.

02:07:23.000 Well, I've heard this myself.

02:07:24.000 I don't even have to now see it in the mainstream news.

02:07:27.000 I hear all over talk radio, all over TV, soldiers saying the same script.

02:07:31.000 I mean, it's not even well written.

02:07:33.000 This is un-American. 0.73

02:07:35.000 Even if you love this war and want to kill every Arab on the planet, having our military run around and engage in domestic psyops is totally un-American.

02:07:44.000 And the people are against this war.

02:07:46.000 There's nothing the globalists can do to put it back together again unless they carry out another terror attack.

02:07:51.000 So I want to get into that.

02:07:52.000 And also I want to talk about DynCorp and Halliburton and the sex slaves and how now we have governors of Illinois and big papers.

02:08:00.000 Going public and reporting on this, that our government is letting lobbyists run around the hill, lobbying against the Pentagon, stopping these practices.

02:08:09.000 Michael Rivero, it's always great to have you join us once a month.

02:08:12.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

02:08:13.000 Well, thanks for having me on the show, Alex.

02:08:15.000 You bet.

02:08:16.000 WhatReallyHappened.com, a real beacon out there of alternative news and information, and we're always honored to have you with us.

02:08:24.000 I just mentioned four or five things that I'd like to get your take on.

02:08:26.000 Any other things that you think we should get in?

02:08:28.000 I mean, I would imagine that you want to talk about Der Spiegel and Jerusalem Post, our criminal government telling Turkey, hey, we're about to use your bases to bomb Iran.

02:08:40.000 Yeah, whether Turkey wants it or not.

02:08:42.000 It seems to be an ongoing debate.

02:08:44.000 Where apparently Putin met with the leadership in Turkey and basically convinced them that this was not a good idea.

02:08:52.000 Because ultimately any attack on Iran is going to involve Russian nationals who are currently working at the construction sites for the power stations. 0.73

02:09:00.000 So Putin went in and got a commitment from the government of Turkey to not allow the US to use their territory to launch attacks from.

02:09:10.000 But of course the US is attempting to pressure Turkey back the other way.

02:09:14.000 All of this, of course, pulls together with other indications that Bush does intend to carry out an attack on Iran for absolutely no reason at all other than he and his neocon buddies seem to want it.

02:09:25.000 They're not even bothering trying to come up with some kind of an excuse or justification.

02:09:30.000 They're just saying, you know, they've got nuclear sites, therefore we are justified in attacking them, which of course is completely silly.

02:09:37.000 Nobody deserves to be attacked for having a a power station and I want to get back to this whole issue when we went over this during the run-up to the war in Iraq where we were being told that Iraq was building nuclear bombs and it's very hard to take Bush serious about it because he can't even pronounce the word correctly but it would have nuclear nuclear nuclear bombs there but what you need to look back at is the US Paid for!

02:10:03.000 We're still paying for this tremendously capable nuclear deterrent.

02:10:07.000 We have Ohio-class submarines.

02:10:10.000 We have cruise missiles.

02:10:12.000 We have ballistic missiles.

02:10:14.000 We can lay waste to any country on Earth that dares to attack us.

02:10:18.000 Well, for Bush or anybody else to get up there and say that Iraq or Iran is a danger to the U.S.

02:10:23.000 because they might be developing a nuclear bomb, is in essence saying that the nuclear deterrent, the U.S.

02:10:28.000 nuclear deterrent that we paid trillions of dollars to build and maintain, Does not work, because it's not deterring an attack.

02:10:36.000 So there is a tremendously strange disconnect.

02:10:39.000 Also, Bill Gertz, who really ought to write a story about CIA operatives in the media, I bet he could really give us a good inside story.

02:10:47.000 What do you think, Mike?

02:10:48.000 He's such an expert on it.

02:10:50.000 Why, they've got magic bombs that are going to EMP us like Buzz Bunny's death ray or Marvin the Martian, and we're going to be back in the Stone Age, it's said.

02:11:00.000 Well, it's just a lot of scaremongering, and the bottom line is that Iraq and Iran and those countries can build all the atomic bombs they want and put them in museums or run them on parades, but the bottom line is that they're not a threat to the U.S.

02:11:15.000 because, you know, we have the capability of, you know, simply wiping an attacking country off the face of the earth.

02:11:25.000 Well, listen, North Korea is running around threatening to nuke us, China threatens to nuke us, and then, oh, they're our friends, but oh, we better attack Iran right now. 0.93

02:11:35.000 Yeah, absolutely, and of course, as was the case in Iraq, there is no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons of any kind.

02:11:41.000 They're doing everything that is consistent with building a power station.

02:11:45.000 Now it's clear, the CIA's own documents, not the Cook ones, but the real ones say, and this was a few months ago, that it will take 10 years for them to have a nuclear device.

02:11:55.000 10 years to do it, meanwhile the neocons, the very same liars of three years ago, are on TV, CNN, Fox, you name it, saying they could have a bomb within three months and kill us all.

02:12:08.000 Yeah, absolutely, and it's the same rhetoric we heard going into Iraq, That they could attack us in 45 minutes and all of it turned out to be a lie. 0.70

02:12:16.000 They cannot be so disconnected from the American public that they think anybody is believing it again.

02:12:21.000 I think it is just they're going through the motions to justify an attack they're going to carry out and they're basically relying on the American people to not stand up.

02:12:29.000 And slap them in the nose and saying, you should not to do this anymore.

02:12:33.000 But it is very clear that... Mike, do you think they're going to attack Iran? 0.90

02:12:36.000 Yes, I believe that they're going to attack Iran, possibly Syria. 0.97

02:12:39.000 They're going to keep on going until the entire... Now, I've been saying this for years.

02:12:41.000 You've been saying this for years.

02:12:42.000 People are like, they're not that crazy.

02:12:44.000 They wouldn't dare.

02:12:45.000 Listen, this is their agenda.

02:12:46.000 This is a criminal group that is attempting to use the military domestically against the American people.

02:12:52.000 Give us your take on all the domestic propaganda.

02:12:54.000 I mean, I don't think people realize how widespread this is.

02:12:58.000 The propaganda is becoming, we're becoming saturated, is really what it comes down to.

02:13:04.000 We have, you know, the scandals where the White House was paying reporters to write favorable pieces in the newspaper, the American newspapers.

02:13:13.000 We had, only a few years ago, where military psyops operatives were actually working in places like the CNN newsrooms.

02:13:22.000 We had Places, you know, situations where we just found out that the U.S.

02:13:28.000 government is paying journalists in Iraq to write favorable news and forbidding the writing of any negative news about what's going on.

02:13:34.000 Well, hundreds of them, hundreds of them, and then knowing that that news is then telegraphed here, meanwhile, lying on our news saying there's total freedom of press over there.

02:13:42.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:13:43.000 Well, of course, if you're going to use the media to lie to the population, you have to first of all convince them that the media is not going to be lying.

02:13:50.000 You know, if you live in a country where you know the press is simply parroting what the government says, you're going to ignore them.

02:13:55.000 So for the propaganda campaign to be effective, the first and biggest lie they have to put out there is that the press is uncontrolled by the government.

02:14:03.000 We now know for a fact that that is not the case.

02:14:06.000 The government uses all kinds of covert and overt means to sway the media in their favor.

02:14:12.000 Holding out those seats on Air Force One.

02:14:14.000 Reporters aren't going to say anything bad about the government as long as they get a free ride in the back of that 747.

02:14:20.000 So, between that and outright bribes, and now we find out that the government has been bugging journalists...

02:14:27.000 Uh, without warrants to find out, you know, things that can be used to persuade them.

02:14:30.000 Well, that's the thing.

02:14:31.000 We all know the NSA's been spying on us for decades, and then Bush tries to use that as a rationale.

02:14:36.000 No, that makes it even worse.

02:14:38.000 Then he lies and says that the FISA court, they were having to get permission before they'd take a call from Bin Laden.

02:14:44.000 Everybody knows the FISA court, you can come back to them in a month later.

02:14:48.000 So it isn't, it's just all lies.

02:14:52.000 It absolutely is, and I think a big part of this whole current bugging scandal, as you said, the NSA has been doing this for years.

02:15:01.000 It's really not new.

02:15:02.000 But I think the reason it was allowed out is Bush realizes he's losing the public relations battle.

02:15:07.000 He is losing support for future wars, and they have been unable to control radio shows and websites like yours and mine.

02:15:15.000 And so this, I think, is a last-ditch desperate attempt to trick the people who are getting their news from the blogs and the internet and the radio shows from talking to the rest of America that is still getting all their news from ABC and the other networks because, you know... You know, it's funny you say that.

02:15:32.000 I believe they came out with this on purpose as a chilling effect and now we have even more evidence.

02:15:38.000 We're seeing a whole flotilla or squadron of news pieces and ads saying the Internet is watching you, Big Brother is going to get you, coming up I want to play a clip where AOL is running ads all over the Western world, predominantly in England, saying the Internet's evil, showing pictures of Hitler, saying should it be controlled, and they want you to go register with them to discuss it.

02:16:03.000 So they're also at the same level, that's a triple-pronged attack.

02:16:06.000 They're saying it's dangerous and evil needs to be regulated, but they're also saying come join us and discuss it, trying to become us, the alternative media.

02:16:15.000 So yes, you're right.

02:16:16.000 Yeah, right now the biggest problem that Bush and the neocons are facing is that people are talking to each other And as you said before, the thing about the military being ordered to talk up the Iraq War, I experienced that myself directly recently when we attended a wedding of somebody who was about to go to Iraq, and he's there trying to talk up about the positive side of the war, but every time we ask him a direct question, he goes, yeah, well, yeah, that's true.

02:16:43.000 And so, uh, they're following that order, but not with much enthusiasm.

02:16:47.000 Exactly, folks, here's the script.

02:16:48.000 They go, uh, I tell ya, nobody talks about the positive things that are happening.

02:16:53.000 The liberal media only focuses on the negative.

02:16:56.000 When it's not a liberal media, it's lying, but they make it look even more extreme by then saying that it's liberal.

02:17:04.000 Absolutely, and it seems like every administration, when the press starts becoming adversarial, they just blame it all their bias toward the other party.

02:17:11.000 When Clinton was in power, they were calling it the conservative press.

02:17:15.000 Was exposing his crime.

02:17:17.000 Vast right-wing conspiracy.

02:17:19.000 Yeah, vast right-wing conspiracy.

02:17:20.000 And it wasn't.

02:17:21.000 A lot of things were being let out that the American public needed to know.

02:17:26.000 And as long as the media is not putting this stuff out, Americans don't have the information they need to make good decisions, especially going into an election year.

02:17:35.000 Michael Rivero, stay there.

02:17:36.000 I want to talk about What you see happening in the next six months, the next year, and then I want to get into a whole host of other issues and take phone calls.

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02:21:56.000 All right, specifically, we put a big article out this weekend on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

02:22:01.000 Headline, Dying Corps and Halliburton Sex Slave Scandal Won't Go Away.

02:22:05.000 And I mentioned some of the topics to Mr. Rivera during the break.

02:22:09.000 I said, what do you want to talk about next?

02:22:10.000 He said, well, that sounds pretty interesting.

02:22:11.000 Of course, he knows about the general five-year saga of this, or six-year now, since they were caught doing it in the Balkans specifically.

02:22:20.000 But now, the governor of Illinois has written a letter, and this is in the Chicago Tribune, And said, why are you blocking this?

02:22:28.000 Why are you telling the Pentagon to not stop this?

02:22:31.000 And openly, it's in the Chicago Tribune, they have lobbyists, I didn't even know it was that bad, who represent the slave trade.

02:22:38.000 This is actual white slavery. 0.63

02:22:40.000 And they're now doing it to Arab kids. 0.50

02:22:41.000 They also grab whole villages of men and take them to be used as slaves for the contractors.

02:22:46.000 This is Chicago Tribune, folks.

02:22:48.000 And people are like, Alex, you talked about this in the first hour.

02:22:51.000 You talked about this on Monday.

02:22:52.000 Well, Fox News will spend six months on one kidnapped woman. 0.71

02:22:56.000 I mean, this shows what psychopathic criminals... I think it's the number one chink in their armor, Michael Rivero, is the fact that DynCorp, Halliburton subsidiaries and others have been caught red-handed defending these practices. 0.99

02:23:09.000 Yeah, that is... I think, you know, when you have an occupation army occupying a country and you see this sort of abuses, it really illustrates what's going on.

02:23:19.000 I am hoping that this story will develop some legs.

02:23:22.000 I'm certainly going to give it some additional emphasis uh... in in the next few weeks but uh... there's an old saying that the fastest way to end a dictator is to get him to act like one where everybody can see it and for this sort of abuses to be going on where you're talking about children being taken into coerced uh... circumstances uh... like this i mean that really shows exactly what the real character of the american occupation is all about did you see that as a good sign

02:23:50.000 When Bush had to say, I'm not a dictator?

02:23:54.000 I think it was a good sign, especially because he's having to back off that joke that he was making during his first year in office about how easy it would be if he was a dictator.

02:24:02.000 And, you know, nobody's laughing anymore because it's very plain that Bush has done more harm to our country, our freedoms, and our way of life than any terrorist could hope to.

02:24:13.000 I'm sure that, you know, in whatever afterlife he's sitting in right now, Osama is looking at George Bush and saying, thank you, George, you wrecked the country more than I could have ever thought possible. 0.76

02:24:24.000 And, you know, well done there, buddy.

02:24:28.000 And it's really what Bush has done, I think, for all intents and purposes, he is a dictator.

02:24:33.000 You know, if he acts like a dictator and talks like a dictator and walks like a dictator, then he's a dictator.

02:24:40.000 Well, give us some examples of that, because his own Attorney General says he is the law.

02:24:44.000 Judge Dredd, the executioner.

02:24:47.000 He says, I'm the war president, I can use war powers, I can break any law I want domestically.

02:24:52.000 That is, in its very essence, a dictatorship.

02:24:55.000 Absolutely, and just because he says it does not mean it is so.

02:24:59.000 Nixon tried exactly the same thing.

02:25:01.000 He used to say, if the president does it, it's not a crime.

02:25:04.000 That is not true.

02:25:05.000 We are a constitutional republic, and the bottom line is that anybody Who raises his hand and takes that oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution is agreeing implicitly to abide by those rules.

02:25:17.000 Well, it's simple.

02:25:19.000 And I use this example because it's the best one out there.

02:25:21.000 Just because the Supreme Court said black people weren't human beings doesn't mean it's true.

02:25:25.000 That's absolutely true.

02:25:27.000 And the bottom line is that George Bush is the President of the United States only.

02:25:33.000 When he is conforming himself to the limits imposed on the presidency by the Constitution.

02:25:38.000 If he acts outside the Constitution, he's acting outside his office.

02:25:42.000 He's just ordinary George Bush again.

02:25:44.000 And maybe he's got a lot of people willing to go along with what he's saying.

02:25:47.000 But he is not legally the President of the United States when he acts outside the Constitution.

02:25:52.000 And Congress cannot vote him extra-constitutional powers.

02:25:56.000 That takes a constitutional amendment.

02:25:57.000 And the Attorney General can't say he is the law.

02:26:00.000 All the Attorney General can, in effect, say is, I refuse to prosecute his crimes, which is really what it comes down to.

02:26:06.000 Bush can do what he wants because he knows his buddies are sitting on the judicial benches and the Department of Justice, and they will give him a get-out-of-jail-free card, is really what it amounts to.

02:26:18.000 What about the financial, corporate, international interest in Europe and Israel and the U.S. that use Bush as their puppet?

02:26:24.000 I mean, they can throw him away like birdcage liner.

02:26:26.000 Their agenda moves forward.

02:26:28.000 Your take on that?

02:26:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:26:31.000 I think Bush was kind of a disposable ruler right from the beginning and certainly was, We see Dick Cheney as more of a capable motivator behind him, and I know that a lot of people are starting to talk about impeachment, but I think if we don't impeach both of them, or even a larger group, we may be in for more trouble with Dick Cheney in the Oval Office.

02:26:56.000 We have some very, very selfish, greedy, borderline sociopathic people running this country right now, And unfortunately, most Americans, while they are aware of what's going on, they are still believing the government is going to play by the rules, and play nice, and obey the constitutional limits.

02:27:12.000 And that's just not happening.

02:27:15.000 It's not happening, and you give people unlimited power, unlimited funding, they're going to abuse it.

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02:30:52.000 It is the third day of January 2006.

02:30:54.000 Michael Rivera is our guest.

02:30:55.000 Well, the first live show of the year.

02:30:57.000 It is the third day of January 2006.

02:31:00.000 Michael Rivera is our guest.

02:31:01.000 We're going to go back to him in just a few minutes.

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02:31:29.000 I was on there last night looking at one of them, and I may just steal the design I'll say on there.

02:31:34.000 No, I've seen them on bumper stickers too, but think it upsets the government or something like that.

02:31:38.000 People ought to go there and get one of those, because thinking does upset them.

02:31:42.000 The average American, the average American will, who's pro-war, now about 35% of the people that are still idiotic enough, according to mainstream polls, I'd say it's even lower, They will argue with you about Iraq, but they literally can't find it on a map.

02:31:57.000 They've done actual studies on this. 0.82

02:31:59.000 They know none of its history.

02:32:00.000 They don't know anything.

02:32:01.000 They've just got an emotional response.

02:32:04.000 And so we'll talk to Michael Rivera about that.

02:32:06.000 I'll ask him about that psychology here in a second.

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02:34:37.000 Going back to Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com, Mike, again, I'm not being sardonic.

02:34:42.000 I don't think of myself as the smartest person, the sharpest knife in the drawer.

02:34:46.000 I don't claim that my elevator even goes all the way to the top.

02:34:49.000 But I know this.

02:34:50.000 I know human history.

02:34:51.000 I'm somewhat of a history buff.

02:34:53.000 I know the history of Iraq.

02:34:55.000 I know how Saddam was the boy of the globalists. 0.98

02:34:58.000 How they told him to attack Iran.

02:35:00.000 How they told him, go ahead and go into Kuwait.

02:35:02.000 I know the setup.

02:35:03.000 I know the Israelis in 1983 said, we want to have the U.S.

02:35:06.000 go in, balkanize the country, break it up into four provinces.

02:35:11.000 Now that's being done and being announced as some new plan.

02:35:14.000 I know that it's all a scam. 1.00

02:35:16.000 And then you talk to the average good ol' boy, and he's just, you're a dirty commie, boy! 1.00

02:35:21.000 We need to kill all them Arabs! 1.00

02:35:23.000 Well, they're not actually Arabs, they're Persians. 1.00

02:35:26.000 Shut up, commie! 1.00

02:35:27.000 Well, you know, the PNAC boy said Saddam wasn't a threat, it was about oil, and about weapon sales. 1.00

02:35:32.000 Oh, you're a liar! 0.97

02:35:34.000 You know Halliburton's ripping off the troops. 1.00

02:35:36.000 Eh, shut up! 0.99

02:35:37.000 I mean, what do you do when you talk to somebody who just doesn't know anything, but they've still got their opinion? 0.97

02:35:43.000 Well, people like that, basically my advice is to not waste your time on them and go out and find those people who are starting to listen and starting to ask the questions.

02:35:53.000 What you have here, there is a certain group of individuals who want to believe they're on top of everything, but they're basically too lazy to really make sure they've got a good beat on life.

02:36:04.000 So they basically take whatever comes out of the TV and they figure, well that's it and I stand by the government.

02:36:09.000 You just crystallized something that I say in like an hour-long diatribe.

02:36:13.000 That's it!

02:36:14.000 They associate their power with this corrupt system.

02:36:16.000 No matter what it does, they don't want to deal with the threat, so they engage in double-think that Orwell talked about.

02:36:22.000 They lie to themselves.

02:36:23.000 They convince themselves.

02:36:25.000 Absolutely, and it goes one step further than that is, and that is We're all raised to believe that we're good, noble human beings, that we would take a stand to fight for truth and justice, and take a stand against evil government if we had one.

02:36:41.000 But a lot of people really don't want to face that choice because when you find out your government is lying to you, your government is killing off leaders that you like and they don't.

02:36:51.000 Kidnapping children and it's public!

02:36:53.000 And you find out about it and you have to decide, what am I going to do about it?

02:36:57.000 And that's when you find out that maybe because of your mortgage and because of your The rest of what's going on, you don't have what it takes to stand up to face up to a corrupt government.

02:37:06.000 Well, most people don't want to admit that to themselves.

02:37:08.000 So they're very grateful when the government says, oh, there's nothing corrupt here. 0.87

02:37:11.000 We've got this crazed, lone-nut assassin over here. 1.00

02:37:13.000 Well, that's where Joseph Goebbels actually wrote a book about propaganda, and he said good propaganda speaks to the laziness, speaks to the procrastination.

02:37:21.000 Oh, no, everything's fine.

02:37:22.000 It doesn't even have to be.

02:37:24.000 That's why this stuff's all so transparent, but it doesn't matter, because they know it's just a sab for lazy people.

02:37:30.000 But I want those lazy people to know something. 0.99

02:37:33.000 This system will feed on them, too, not just them dirty Arabs. 1.00

02:37:36.000 Oh, absolutely. 0.97

02:37:37.000 You just have to look at the history of Germany in World War II, and it all worked really well for those in power, but in the long run, they ruined the entire nation. 0.93

02:37:45.000 And the people who made the money, including the Bush family, got off scot-free, took their money and laughed their heads off. 0.98

02:37:50.000 Over those dumb German people who fell for it all. 1.00

02:37:53.000 And the same thing is going to happen in this country. 1.00

02:37:56.000 And it happens because good Americans...

02:38:00.000 Don't want to have to confront that issue of taking a risk to stand up to the corrupt government.

02:38:05.000 But you have to look at people like Cindy Sheehan, who by the way is in Hawaii this week, to have the courage to stand up and say, this is wrong.

02:38:13.000 We were lied to.

02:38:14.000 Our kids are dying for oil and money and Halliburton.

02:38:18.000 They're not dying for any noble purpose that we can get behind.

02:38:21.000 We were lied to.

02:38:22.000 We were lied to about weapons of mass destruction.

02:38:24.000 We were lied to about Iraq and Al-Qaeda.

02:38:26.000 We were lied to about Iraq and 9-11.

02:38:29.000 There was nothing about Iraq that was told to us that was absolutely the truth that we could rely on and say we can support that. 0.97

02:38:35.000 Now we're seeing the same pattern repeat out with Iran again. 0.97

02:38:39.000 Well, Michael, I know you, I mean, it goes without saying, but I would guess you've probably been threatened before, haven't you?

02:38:46.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.84

02:38:49.000 But, you know, I'm always amazed when I get threatened because I guess from their cowardly view, the cowards that engage in all this evil and kind of service this whole corrupt empire, I guess to them being threatened would scare them. 0.67

02:39:02.000 So I guess that's why they think threatening us. 0.92

02:39:04.000 Folks, I get up in the morning when I get the threats.

02:39:07.000 That actually has empowered me.

02:39:09.000 I've decided to redouble my efforts because of the latest volleys of threats.

02:39:14.000 I don't think they understand that we're just... I'm instinctive, Michael, and I see a threat to the species, a threat to my family, a threat by just a pack of scumbag criminals, and I'm going to fight these people! 0.99

02:39:28.000 I mean, are we abnormal, Michael Rivero? 0.99

02:39:31.000 Because we're disgusted by them?

02:39:32.000 Because they tell us that we're crazy, that we ought to just not have morals, and that we should just join them.

02:39:39.000 Well, according to the latest polls, we're not abnormal because about 85% of America is starting to agree with us.

02:39:44.000 But the thing about the threatening and harassment, to me, when that happens, that's a signal that we're right over the target because we're catching the flack.

02:39:52.000 And more than that, these kind of tactics are an admission that these people doing the harassment, making the threats, You already know they cannot win the debate on the facts and the logic and the law.

02:40:04.000 They are admitting that they don't have a valid argument when they resort to such tactics.

02:40:09.000 Because if they had a good argument, they wouldn't need tactics like that.

02:40:12.000 They'd come over and say, this is what we need, and we'd say, yeah, we agree with you.

02:40:15.000 And the louder they scream, we know we're bloodying them.

02:40:18.000 Absolutely. 0.99

02:40:19.000 They're putting on this facade of being invincible, and we just keep stabbing them with the ice pick, folks. 0.97

02:40:23.000 They're bleeding out right now.

02:40:25.000 Well, I'm in agreement with George Galloway, who said last week that if it weren't for the peace movement, the U.S.

02:40:32.000 would already be in Damascus and Tehran.

02:40:34.000 And I'm in agreement with that.

02:40:36.000 We can certainly wish that it wasn't.

02:40:37.000 I mean, that was the PENAC timetable.

02:40:39.000 It was in the next 20 years to invade 66 countries.

02:40:42.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:40:43.000 And, you know, it's global conquest.

02:40:46.000 But, you know, they're definitely faltering.

02:40:48.000 It's not going as smoothly as they anticipated.

02:40:51.000 I'm in agreement that they may try another stage terror attack to try and move the war machine along. 0.94

02:40:57.000 You think they'll blow up the Golden Gate Bridge?

02:40:59.000 Well, that's one of the targets I think would probably work for them.

02:41:02.000 Silverstein actually bought the Sears Tower, so look out there.

02:41:08.000 Yeah, I saw that as well.

02:41:11.000 It's going to be another symbolic landmark.

02:41:14.000 If it happens, the thing you have to remember is If these countries are so angry with our government, why are they killing the ordinary people?

02:41:22.000 Why didn't they go after, like...

02:41:24.000 You know, the Capitol building or the White House.

02:41:26.000 Why don't they go after him?

02:41:27.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:41:27.000 Why would the Arabs attack us, knowing it'll bring down the wrath of the empire?

02:41:31.000 Absolutely.

02:41:32.000 That really is the ultimate thing.

02:41:33.000 Why would they do something guaranteed?

02:41:36.000 And then you happen to look at who they claim did it.

02:41:39.000 It's a known CIA operative, Tim Osman, known as Osama Bin Laden, with the supposed hijackers all training at U.S.

02:41:45.000 military bases and defense language schools and all these public...

02:41:49.000 Every time, you know, it's not just common sense, then every time you look at it, look, it's them!

02:41:54.000 They're doing it!

02:41:55.000 I want to get a little bit into the war profiteering and the rest of it, but we've got to go to some of these phone calls, because they have been holding like true champions there, and I actually have my call list here in front of me.

02:42:07.000 Here it is.

02:42:08.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Stan in Missouri.

02:42:11.000 You're on the air with Michael Rivero.

02:42:12.000 Thank you for holding, sir.

02:42:14.000 As always, you've got a good guest on there.

02:42:17.000 I wanted to talk to you.

02:42:18.000 You're right on target about so many things today, Alex.

02:42:21.000 They're setting up in the Smith-Cotton High School system in Sedalia, Missouri.

02:42:26.000 They made it mandatory yesterday.

02:42:29.000 They're gonna make them wear identification badges, the teachers and the faculty.

02:42:35.000 The federal documents admit that they're training the kids how to be prisoners in the schools.

02:42:38.000 They're also doing it in the Warsaw School system, Alex, and they're doing it also in Posey, Idaho.

02:42:45.000 I talked to a 19-year-old Mormon elder.

02:42:48.000 He said he'd done it in his school system for five years now.

02:42:52.000 Listen, I read the USA Today article a month ago where they said it's good and the feds are paying for total surveillance in all the schools, including the bathrooms.

02:43:01.000 Michael Rivera?

02:43:02.000 Well, that seems to be a lot of money being spent that could be spent on making the schools actually better, better teachers, better classroom support.

02:43:10.000 I don't know about in your part of the country, but out here our public schools are so strapped for cash, there are not enough school books to go around.

02:43:17.000 And yet we have the federal government coming in here to put in TV cameras in the bathrooms? 0.80

02:43:22.000 There's something seriously wrong with an educational system that has more money for that kind of surveillance.

02:43:27.000 But that's their education.

02:43:28.000 Their education is how to wear a badge, how to have a camera in the stall, how to have cops in black uniforms shake you down.

02:43:36.000 They have 18 surveillance cameras in Smith-Cotton High School.

02:43:39.000 But Alex is always, like I just go through saying, you've been on target.

02:43:43.000 That's my ID card that they've implemented in Sedalia, Missouri.

02:43:46.000 It's not going to work, Alex, and I'm going to tell you why it's not working, because you've got a vast criminal element due to the meth epidemic in Pettis County, and you've got 19-year-olds, 20-year-olds driving around with revoked Driver's License, Suspended License, D.A.W.I.

02:44:02.000 Condemned Fictions.

02:44:04.000 The only ones that are going to obey this F-9 law, Alex, is honest patriots like you and me. 0.99

02:44:09.000 That's the way it's always been, and they're not going to enforce it against the scumbags. 0.98

02:44:13.000 They're going to enforce it against us. 0.96

02:44:14.000 Thanks for the call, Stan.

02:44:15.000 Always good to hear from you.

02:44:17.000 Let's talk to, up next, Rick in Michigan.

02:44:20.000 You're on the air, Rick, with our guest, Michael Rivera.

02:44:22.000 Go ahead.

02:44:23.000 Well, how you doing, Alex?

02:44:24.000 Good, sir.

02:44:25.000 First time listener.

02:44:26.000 Welcome!

02:44:27.000 Man, in my heart, I tell you, I've been listening for somebody like you.

02:44:30.000 Well, I'm glad you found us.

02:44:31.000 Well, first to say, we've all been bushwhacked.

02:44:35.000 Sure you know that.

02:44:36.000 Yes, we have been bushwhacked, yes.

02:44:39.000 And, uh, another subject I wanted to bring up is, uh, some of the things you were talking about, about, uh, the, uh, inoculations and so forth.

02:44:49.000 Yes.

02:44:49.000 Well, you know, all that, all that is all about population control, just like cigarettes, just like Gun control, you know, flooding the market with guns and every damn thing else and you've got every alcohol and they're all supplemented by the government.

02:45:04.000 All of them.

02:45:07.000 Well, I know the government moves into every vice, and I think guns are good overall, but certainly the government, we found that in most big cities it is police, this has been the news, who are involved in the illegal gun trade.

02:45:19.000 Oh yeah, they're flooding the market with them.

02:45:21.000 Anybody can get them.

02:45:22.000 I don't mean all the cops, select people.

02:45:24.000 You want to comment on what the Lister's bringing up, Michael?

02:45:26.000 Well, yeah, there's a big problem with police corruption, and again, you know, the corruption starts at the top with the White House and it just flows down through the entire social structure.

02:45:37.000 All organizations are going to inherit the personality and the morals of the people at the top, and being a former resident of Los Angeles, I'm very much used to the idea of the police being part of the crime problem as well.

02:45:49.000 When I was in college, the best source for marijuana was the California Highway Patrolman.

02:45:54.000 I knew another guy who'd been an L.A.

02:45:55.000 cop who bought himself a Radio Shack store with the money that he got from reselling confiscated drugs.

02:46:01.000 Rick, thanks for the call.

02:46:03.000 I mean, I remember as a senior in high school, one of my friends was the son of a prominent, I mean, a very prominent FBI agent.

02:46:12.000 And I'd go to their house for like a barbecue, and I mean this was like a two million dollar house, right next door to, you know, well I'm not going to get into it.

02:46:23.000 The point is, is that it's just, you know, I mean how many times do the cops, you know, I'm in a rich neighborhood and there's a cop living, and you're like, well what does he do?

02:46:31.000 And it's just over and over again.

02:46:36.000 Well, I have a friend, or rather, I knew a guy who was in the Secret Service, Treasury Department, not protective detail, but counterfeiting, and yeah, he had a very lavish lifestyle, including quite a collection of very expensive cars, so...

02:46:49.000 Yeah, there's a problem out there.

02:46:51.000 And of course, you know, you look at what's going on at the very top of the government, and everybody else is, well, why shouldn't I be playing the same way the boss is?

02:46:58.000 These crooks, you know, these crooks laugh at the good cops.

02:46:58.000 And you know what?

02:47:01.000 Like, oh, look at that schmuck, getting $40,000 a year, can't even put his kids through school. 1.00

02:47:05.000 It just makes me sick. 0.99

02:47:06.000 And that's like Serpico all over again.

02:47:08.000 It is.

02:47:09.000 Francis in New York.

02:47:10.000 Francis, go ahead.

02:47:11.000 Yes, I want to wish you both a Happy New Year, Mike and Alex.

02:47:16.000 And there are many issues.

02:47:17.000 What I wanted to talk about briefly was

02:47:20.000 uh... the impending uh... strike on iran and uh... i must say i uh... michael i think your analysis is astute and i want to trace a couple points one i cannot recall in the last thirty years more high-level leakers in government and agencies around the globe uh... releasing uh... information regarding this whether it was to the uh... a german press or the turkish press or the british press uh...

02:47:50.000 What's really frightening with the impending nuclear attack on Iran is that you are astute with regard to the fact that Turkey will not allow the Americans to use the NATO bases because a natural gas agreement has been made regarding Russia and Turkey as well as distributing the gas to Europe.

02:48:18.000 So even Italy, the Netherlands.

02:48:21.000 So your point is?

02:48:23.000 My point is this.

02:48:24.000 I think we're going to see after this attack occurs, we're going to see a breakdown of NATO.

02:48:29.000 And when that happens, we're going to have probably a major world war.

02:48:35.000 Because we have China aligned with Russia.

02:48:38.000 We have the EU.

02:48:40.000 Stay there, I'm going to let you finish really fast and get Mike's comment on that.

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02:51:40.000 You know, I've got this minute-long clip.

02:51:52.000 This is the new AOL ad.

02:51:53.000 If you've got AOL, you sign up for junk service and you get spied on, folks.

02:51:58.000 But, where they demonize the internet and show pictures of Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan and say it's got to be regulated and controlled, come sign up with them and discuss it!

02:52:07.000 And it's just multi-faceted, multi-variant propaganda.

02:52:10.000 It's like local radio stations here in Austin put up signs saying, saying, don't Don't listen to our station, and then it makes you tune in.

02:52:21.000 And so it's got that level to it, but it's also demonizing the internet for more regulation, but oh, we're AOL, we're safe.

02:52:31.000 I want to play that into Michael Rivero's comment on it, so we can't really go back to Francis, but to comment on Francis's comment, Mike, about how this could really cause, well, they're calling it World War 4, they say the Cold War was World War 3.

02:52:45.000 Where do you see this going?

02:52:47.000 Well, there's definitely a real danger because Russia and Iran are moving closer together, Russia is supplying sophisticated anti-aircraft missile systems, and of course Russia is providing Uh, material and personnel for the construction of the power station.

02:53:00.000 And the real danger is that if the U.S.

02:53:02.000 strikes those power stations that Russian nationals will be killed in the bombing attacks.

02:53:06.000 But we heard that about Serbia, and the Russians still backed off.

02:53:10.000 They did grab the Pristina Airport.

02:53:13.000 This is a whole other subject.

02:53:14.000 I mean, isn't Russia to a certain extent in the same hip pocket as Bush?

02:53:18.000 Uh, I'm not entirely sure about that with Putin in charge.

02:53:23.000 And I'm not entirely certain that the people that are pulling the ultimate strings don't see their own personal fortunes improving in a war between the U.S.

02:53:31.000 and Russia.

02:53:32.000 So they could actually engineer this and Bush is a bit player?

02:53:35.000 Yeah, absolutely, because the idea would be that you've got the U.S.

02:53:39.000 and Russia are two major powers, but if they can be tricked into killing each other off, or at least severely weakening each other in a mutually destructive war.

02:53:46.000 That makes the international order even stronger.

02:53:48.000 Yeah, then you have all kinds of other people who become, yeah, the new world order becomes much more of an influence.

02:53:54.000 No, I agree with you.

02:53:55.000 I mean, internationally, they want to weaken all nation states.

02:53:58.000 Let's go ahead and roll this AOL ad.

02:54:00.000 Now listen to them demonizing the Internet with images of Hitler and the Klan.

02:54:04.000 Here it is.

02:54:04.000 Some people think the Internet is a bad thing.

02:54:09.000 Somewhere your identity can be stolen, your home invaded, and your savings robbed without anyone setting foot inside your door. - It is one of the most dangerous weapons ever created.

02:54:22.000 A way for the unhinged to spread evil free of supervision or censorship.

02:54:29.000 A place for mankind to exercise its darkest desires.

02:54:35.000 An open market where you can purchase anything you want Orwell was right.

02:54:43.000 The internet has taken us to a place where everything we do is watched, monitored, and processed without us ever realizing.

02:54:53.000 Some people think the internet is a bad thing.

02:54:58.000 What do you think?

02:55:00.000 So now, Big Brother is going to save us from the Wild West Internet.

02:55:05.000 Meanwhile, DynCorp is purchasing the little children.

02:55:07.000 But that's the government, that's okay.

02:55:09.000 We've got to regulate and shut down the Internet.

02:55:11.000 I mean, listen to the ominous music.

02:55:14.000 Michael Rivera?

02:55:15.000 Well, America Online actually began as a private network, where you had to really work through their system before you could actually reach the Internet itself.

02:55:23.000 And for those people who've been around long enough to remember the history of how the Internet came to be, it was never intended to be accessible to the public.

02:55:31.000 It was supposed to be a government-only tool, but it didn't escape out.

02:55:37.000 And the government's biggest problem right now is how to bring the Internet back under their control and censorship.

02:55:42.000 And I think ultimately what we're going to see is the big government-friendly companies like America Online and various other providers will become the front doors to the internet.

02:55:51.000 Well, that's internet too.

02:55:52.000 That's exactly what they're planning.

02:55:54.000 Yeah, and webpages will require licensing, and they're going to turn into basically just another form of a TV network where the government message gets to you and everybody else is just supposed to sit still and passively accept it.

02:56:08.000 I agree with you, and I apologize to Davey and Reuben and everybody else.

02:56:11.000 We'll have to talk tomorrow.

02:56:12.000 I'm sorry to the callers.

02:56:14.000 I agree with you, but now there's a hunger.

02:56:15.000 I don't think they're going to get away with it, Michael.

02:56:17.000 I don't think they will.

02:56:18.000 I think it's going to be proved to be very difficult to do.

02:56:21.000 Hey, hey, Michael, we're out of time.

02:56:23.000 God bless you.

02:56:23.000 Take care, folks.

Alex Jones Show - January 03, 2006

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