Alex Jones Show - 20060104_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:30.000 It's the fourth day of January 2006.

00:00:32.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:33.000 We're going to be here live for the next three hours.

00:00:39.000 Coming up in the next hour, we have Gary Bernstein headlined, CIA operative says Bush military leaders let Bin Laden escape.

00:00:49.000 And then we go back to the articles that were posted over the last few years where they flew the Taliban out to safety.

00:00:57.000 We have generals being ordered to release Taliban generals.

00:01:02.000 And we have these different operatives clearly trained at U.S.

00:01:05.000 military bases.

00:01:06.000 It's a government op.

00:01:09.000 Of course, that's not the story we're getting from Gary Bernstein, just that they were ordered to not go after Bin Laden, to basically stop, and then he can give his reasons for that.

00:01:17.000 But when you look at all the evidence, it is crystal clear.

00:01:21.000 It is extremely clear.

00:01:24.000 And so we'll be discussing that coming up later.

00:01:27.000 We're going to have open phones, of course.

00:01:29.000 Military Times poll, that's the military's own big publication, one of the major publications covering the military, poll finds fading support for President Bush's war Even amongst their readers, who you would think would be buying into the propaganda, because Bush has so nicely catapulted the propaganda, as he likes to say.

00:01:55.000 Also, files say agency initiated growth of spying effort.

00:02:02.000 Of course, they've lied to us hundreds and hundreds of times.

00:02:05.000 We know the NSA has been spying on the American people long before George Bush went into office.

00:02:11.000 That doesn't make it okay that he's been doing it.

00:02:13.000 It shows the systemic, system-wide corruption.

00:02:19.000 But, oh, they have a Democrat coming out now, shilling for Bush, and oh, the NSA, they were doing this on their own.

00:02:28.000 Bush didn't commit a felony ordering him to do it.

00:02:31.000 It doesn't matter if the orders are now public and admitted, and Bush has been defending his orders.

00:02:37.000 No, now that it looks like he's not going to get away with it, no, no, he's going to retroactively say, oh no, I didn't do it.

00:02:41.000 It's like, if you come in and confess to robbing the bank, and there's surveillance footage of you doing it, and eyewitnesses fingering you, and they find your trunk full of cash, and then you just say, oh, I confessed, but now, because you're going to indict me, I didn't rob the bank.

00:02:59.000 Oh, well then, let's Oh, let's let you go free!

00:03:02.000 So we have this federal agency, the largest snooping agency, telling us that, oh, they just did it all on their own.

00:03:11.000 The president didn't tell them to do anything.

00:03:14.000 Meanwhile, National Security Agency whistleblower warns domestic spying program is signs the US is decaying into a police state.

00:03:26.000 That's out of democracy.

00:03:28.000 Now we're getting Russell Tice.

00:03:30.000 And the former NSA intelligence agent on the show later this week as well.

00:03:35.000 By the way, we have Michael Bagnerik, who was the Libertarian presidential candidate, joining us in studio tomorrow, so that should be interesting, and we're going to start, we have started, having an in-studio guest every single week, and then we take that video from those interviews and post them on PrisonPlanet.tv for members there, and we also air it locally on the local Austin TV show.

00:03:58.000 So a new feature that we've been doing the last few months here in the new studios that are a bit larger and so you can look forward to more and more of that.

00:04:05.000 Something else I'm going to do is when authors come through town that I think are interesting and quite a few do come through town to book people and Barnes & Noble and the rest of it, I'm going to start getting them to swing by here as well at least one or two a month so that'll add to our in-studio audience just a little note for PrisonPlanet.tv members Lacks oversight found in tests of gene-altered crops.

00:04:29.000 And that's from the New York Times.

00:04:30.000 We'll tell you why that's important.

00:04:31.000 I'm sure most of you already know why, but we'll go over it.

00:04:33.000 Iran vows to restart its nuclear development program of peaceful energy systems, but our government's sworn to attack them, and they're moving forward to attack them. 0.95

00:04:45.000 And I wanted to go over a history of secret U.S.

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00:08:11.000 There have been a lot of new big developments concerning Iran and the people that control our government's statements and movements to go ahead and start bombing them. 0.86

00:08:24.000 We'll get into that.

00:08:25.000 We do have the high-level CIA operative coming on, Gary Bernstein.

00:08:30.000 With the headline, C.I.

00:08:32.000 operatives says Bush military and leaders.

00:08:35.000 Again, C.I.

00:08:36.000 operatives says that Bush and military leaders let Bin Laden escape on purpose.

00:08:42.000 That is coming up.

00:08:43.000 And of course, we'll be taking your calls throughout the three hours today.

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00:08:47.000 And I want to get into the latest news on the NSA and the news spin out there that no, no, the NSA did this all on their own.

00:09:00.000 It doesn't matter if Bush says he ordered it and has bragged about it.

00:09:03.000 Now because people aren't buying that, okay, I didn't order it.

00:09:09.000 And then we're supposed to forget that just two days ago he got up and gave a speech, now I guess three days ago, on Sunday and said that he ordered it for our own good.

00:09:19.000 Now he never did that.

00:09:20.000 You're supposed to forget that.

00:09:22.000 The NSA did it all on their own.

00:09:23.000 They have a little Democrat.

00:09:24.000 You know, you can always tell how staged things are that when one of their people gets in trouble, oh, the other party comes over to save them.

00:09:33.000 Before I go any further, I don't want to lessen the horrible Things that happen to coal miners in West Virginia and Tennessee and other areas of the country. 0.99

00:09:45.000 I mean, I've read quite a bit about coal miners in England and coal miners in Europe and coal miners in America.

00:09:52.000 Thank God I never had to experience it, but down there breathing the coal dust, getting incredible problems with their lungs, the cave-ins, the methane and butane gas that is down in the mines.

00:10:07.000 I mean, it is a hellish, hard-working, 12-hours-on, 12-hours-off job.

00:10:12.000 And it's a thankless job.

00:10:15.000 And that's why I've been really pleased they've had the more modern lignite mining systems of just stripping it right off the surface.

00:10:22.000 Too bad we can't have all that clean-burning coal in Utah, because Clinton turned it into a UN biosphere, enough clean-burning coal to run the country for 200-plus years.

00:10:31.000 Side issue, side issue.

00:10:34.000 But it would be a lot better to have those guys out there running those big dump trucks and shovels instead of down under the ground.

00:10:42.000 It's horrible what happened to them.

00:10:44.000 But I got emails yesterday asking me, why aren't you talking about this?

00:10:48.000 Why aren't you discussing it?

00:10:51.000 And here's the headline, Fury over U.S.

00:10:54.000 Mine Rescue Fiasco.

00:10:57.000 And it turns out that really the government knew they were dead.

00:11:01.000 But just didn't want to say they were dead.

00:11:05.000 And then Bush would come out and give us a wonderful speech about it.

00:11:09.000 And I remember listeners were getting a little bit paranoid in some of the emails and instant messages and stuff we got, saying, hey, this is some kind of weird diversion. 0.83

00:11:16.000 And I said, oh, that's ridiculous.

00:11:18.000 You know, there are explosions in mines. 0.90

00:11:20.000 This stuff happens.

00:11:21.000 And I believe that's what happened.

00:11:22.000 No foul play or anything involved.

00:11:25.000 But then I started reading the reports, and I got CNN here, about how the families were gathered at a church, and so they called out the SWAT team, and the SWAT team was pointing their rifles at the families.

00:11:38.000 And, you know, one man got mad and jumped on the mine director, but that was it.

00:11:43.000 But why was the SWAT team there to begin with?

00:11:43.000 They had to tackle him.

00:11:47.000 I mean, next time I need to make a ham sandwich or change a light bulb, do I need to dial 911 and say, Austin SWAT team, can you come?

00:11:56.000 Well, I've got to go to the bathroom.

00:11:58.000 Can you come in and assist me in the potty?

00:12:00.000 You know, I've got to change the oil on my car.

00:12:03.000 Can the SWAT team come to help me?

00:12:06.000 But it's this attitude that we're all the enemy, we're all terrorists, we're all bad, and you know, the local constabulary, the local mine leaders, the local, you know, robber barons have to have their regulators there with them to make sure that the people don't cause a problem.

00:12:23.000 According to press reports, I have them right here, that's what actually made people mad.

00:12:26.000 They're like, why are all these cops around us?

00:12:28.000 Why are there snipers pointing guns at us?

00:12:31.000 I'll never forget, I went to protest the Klan back in 1999, up in Waco, Texas, because they were trying to bind themselves to what would happen to the Branch Davidians, thus demonizing their cause and their memory, and at the same time threatening us and making little weird comments.

00:12:49.000 And so, again, I'm not a Branch Davidian, folks.

00:12:51.000 I went up there and covered that story and built a memorial church for all those that died.

00:12:55.000 We even have plaques out there to remember the police that died, to the, well, the BATF, whatever you want to call them, the gun confiscators.

00:13:01.000 But, to make a long story short, Why was I telling that story?

00:13:05.000 Oh, yeah, SWAT teams.

00:13:07.000 They had the McClellan County SWAT team up in the parking garage and I'm walking wearing a t-shirt, no bag, and Mike Hanson's with me with a little video camera, obviously no weapons.

00:13:20.000 I've been there for about an hour and a half, been bullhorning them.

00:13:23.000 Marty put the bullhorn up and I look up And there's two snipers!

00:13:27.000 We've even got video of this.

00:13:28.000 We've got to dig that original video out.

00:13:31.000 We've got a shorter clip to put on the web that we found on another show we did, but where is that original 35-minute program we did?

00:13:38.000 It's got the SWAT team.

00:13:40.000 Mike dug around in his closet forever trying to find it, but I hope you're listening.

00:13:44.000 I don't know how hard he really looked, but I looked up... The reason I say that is there's all these old shows I want to air.

00:13:52.000 I want to put them on PrisonPlanet.tv, too.

00:13:55.000 And I look up, and there are two snipers pointing right at me.

00:14:00.000 I mean, they've got their sights on me.

00:14:04.000 They've got their Remington 700s aimed right at me.

00:14:07.000 They're only about 50 yards away.

00:14:08.000 And I look up and go, what are you doing?

00:14:11.000 And they keep their fingers on the triggers and are laughing at me.

00:14:16.000 And, you know, I've got to dig out that video.

00:14:22.000 So, I don't know what to say.

00:14:24.000 I just don't understand it.

00:14:25.000 And I understand why these families got mad.

00:14:27.000 Why do you point guns at us?

00:14:29.000 Why do you do this to us?

00:14:30.000 Why do you treat us like this? 1.00

00:14:32.000 Meanwhile, Mexican dribs are killing and slaughtering you, god-like police, god-like feds. 1.00

00:14:39.000 Your gods were slaves in your system. 0.99

00:14:42.000 And you don't even know about it because the news didn't tell you.

00:14:45.000 Alright, I'm already starting to rant here.

00:14:47.000 Side issue.

00:14:48.000 The point is, is that I think what happened to these 13, it's 12 dead for sure, and a 13th minor was found dead as well, so it's a total of 13.

00:14:58.000 And then one other gentleman is in some type of coma, and we pray for him.

00:15:02.000 But, let's really get down to the bottom of it here, and let's just say it, and tell it like it is.

00:15:12.000 Stalin said that when one man dies, it's a tragedy.

00:15:15.000 When 10,000 die, it's a statistic.

00:15:18.000 And being a mass murdering devil, he knew what he was talking about.

00:15:22.000 I talked all about the last few weeks about DynCorp, and for some reason suddenly a governor of Illinois is talking about it, and suddenly the Chicago Tribune is talking about it.

00:15:32.000 This is really exciting.

00:15:34.000 Where they openly kidnapped 200,000 women and children, along with the UN, and a few other unsavory groups. 0.95

00:15:41.000 Well, it's worse than unsavory, just maggot groups. 0.99

00:15:45.000 And they flew them all over the world to different slave brothels. 1.00

00:15:47.000 And that was all over BBC, Le Figaro, Der Spiegel, French News Agency, Agency France.

00:15:56.000 It's all over there, just documented mainstream news, totally 110%.

00:16:01.000 But no one seems to care.

00:16:02.000 I can't even get the Patriots and Truth Seekers and people to care.

00:16:05.000 They're just... They're talking about, still, the lady, the girl in Aruba.

00:16:10.000 They're crying, freaking out, and there's groups.

00:16:13.000 Anytime this happens, everybody just goes crazy.

00:16:16.000 And you know what?

00:16:17.000 You should get upset.

00:16:19.000 But then why is the media deciding to bring that out and make that a big deal, but ignoring all these other massive things?

00:16:26.000 And even in the foreign press, they report on it like they're reporting on the price of pork bellies or something.

00:16:33.000 Or cattle futures.

00:16:34.000 It's just, they just calmly, nonchalantly reported.

00:16:38.000 And then the average American doesn't even know what's going on.

00:16:39.000 That they may now, that it's been in the AP and Chicago Tribune and the Governor's upset in Illinois.

00:16:45.000 Not that he's even concerned with it in any way.

00:16:49.000 He just saw it in the Tribune and like a normal person goes, there's mass kidnapping going on and sex slavery?

00:16:55.000 Why, I'm upset!

00:16:57.000 That's what a normal person does.

00:17:00.000 A normal person hears that and freaks out.

00:17:03.000 I got a few emails saying, why didn't I talk about the miners yesterday?

00:17:06.000 Well, I'm going to be frank with you.

00:17:08.000 These are grown men, they know it's a dangerous job, and I think they're tough guys, and I think they're great, and they're dead. 0.98

00:17:16.000 You know, whenever a cop gets shot, and everyone pulls their hair out and freaks out and runs around going nuts, and just in giant plaques and monuments everywhere, unless Mexican troops kill them, and it might be in one newspaper, and just kind of shut up, no, there's a memorial, just shut up. 0.89

00:17:33.000 You see, again, they tell you when to care. 0.94

00:17:36.000 And I do care.

00:17:37.000 But I'm not going to start to freak out and personalize it with those 13 people that died and the one person that's injured.

00:17:46.000 I mean, how can I spend my time on the show talking about that when in one operation 200,000 women and children were kidnapped in one year in one region of the Balkans?

00:17:57.000 I mean, seriously.

00:17:58.000 You see, I am not going to let the mainstream media set my agenda.

00:18:03.000 A lot of times I cover what the big daily news is, but only if I think it's important.

00:18:07.000 Now, you're the wild card.

00:18:08.000 You're the listeners.

00:18:09.000 We take calls every day.

00:18:12.000 And we usually take, I don't know, about 15 calls a show, some days more, but when I think about 15, you know, that's where you get to talk about whatever you want and mix in whatever you want.

00:18:19.000 Normally, the listeners, I've got to commend you, bring up things that are really important.

00:18:23.000 And I'm not saying I've got a corner on the market of what is important, but I mean, is 200,000 kidnapped kids that nobody wants to talk about, kidnapped kids and women, is that more important than the girl in Aruba and the 13 people in the West Virginia mineshaft?

00:18:39.000 I mean, shouldn't the President be out praying and giving speeches and praying for those 200,000 kids that we're going to send in the Delta Force to save them and every one of these kids need to be released right now, but he can't because his business partners are all involved and because they ship in the male prostitutes, the female prostitutes and other stuff to Bohemian Grove, that's admitted, and because they all like it and they think it's fun and they're all making money off of it.

00:19:03.000 That's why I gotta watch a sappy serial killer up on TV, up there talking about some victims in a mine explosion, I guess of natural gas going off, and everybody's gotta get a tear in their eye because the murdering government tells you to?

00:19:21.000 I mean, literally, it's mind control, folks.

00:19:24.000 It's mind control that we've got 800-plus dead on the U.S.

00:19:28.000 border, U.S.-Mexico side, 15 dead cops in last year alone.

00:19:33.000 You gotta see the new numbers.

00:19:35.000 Just on our border, our cops.

00:19:37.000 And the average cop doesn't know.

00:19:38.000 And I know I talk about this a lot, because it's big!

00:19:42.000 It's big!

00:19:43.000 That cop, you know, those federal marshals and cops and everybody else, And sheriff's deputies that are getting killed down there, they're just as important as W. Jones who got killed right here in Austin.

00:19:56.000 But see, the government says don't talk about it, so you don't talk about it.

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00:24:19.000 I mean, it's ongoing.

00:24:20.000 The governor of Illinois is doing it.

00:24:23.000 That's it.

00:24:25.000 Everybody should.

00:24:28.000 But somehow, if the mainstream media isn't talking about it, still, even with Americans that have woken up to a great extent, still, well, it's just not something we should get into, because the media just isn't making it a big issue.

00:24:41.000 Let's talk about just, you know, one pervert, Michael Jackson, and not a militarized, mechanized group of them.

00:24:49.000 So it just boggles the mind what's happening with Halliburton and Dyncor, and they have lobbyists for white slavery up on Capitol Hill.

00:25:02.000 The good news is, though, that groups like, of all places, Soldier of Fortune, four years ago, did two cover stories on it.

00:25:12.000 And one of my staff, I had mentioned that yesterday, one of my folks here at the office actually had those social fortunes.

00:25:19.000 I couldn't find them in my files.

00:25:20.000 I had them many years ago.

00:25:22.000 And I brought them in.

00:25:25.000 Maybe I'll cover some of those later on the show.

00:25:28.000 I need to read back over them.

00:25:30.000 I was doing that right before it went on air, but it was just filled with stuff that even dwarfs what we've been talking about.

00:25:38.000 And this is all of the admitted Confirmed things that are happening.

00:25:44.000 And look, on Fox and CNN, they could have ten hours straight coverage about the girl in Aruba.

00:25:49.000 And people didn't get sick of that.

00:25:50.000 They loved it.

00:25:52.000 But some people are, I guess, going, Alex, you need to stop talking about the mass kidnapping rings and how the government's involved.

00:25:59.000 Everybody knows the government's good and we should trust them.

00:26:03.000 This Abramoff individual has pled guilty to conspiracy And influence peddling, tax evasion, mail fraud, and attempts at bribery.

00:26:16.000 And I just say that's impossible.

00:26:19.000 Government has never been involved in a conspiracy.

00:26:22.000 No one in government has ever done anything secretive or wrong.

00:26:26.000 There's no corruption.

00:26:27.000 I mean, yeah, I could talk about a trillion here, a three trillion there.

00:26:31.000 So there's around six trillion missing in the last ten years from the Pentagon.

00:26:35.000 Six trillion?

00:26:36.000 I mean, really?

00:26:37.000 There's nothing going on up there.

00:26:39.000 Trillion?

00:26:41.000 Yes, I said trillion.

00:26:42.000 It says, once powerful lobbyist Jack Abramoff pled guilty to his date of federal charges of conspiracy, tax evasion, and mail fraud, agreeing to cooperate in an influence-peddling investigation that threatens powerful members of Congress.

00:26:57.000 And it's in the Village Voice today.

00:27:00.000 Now being connected to Dennis Hafstert, the little toad from Illinois, the Speaker of the House, in a heavily scripted court appearance.

00:27:10.000 Scripted?

00:27:12.000 They don't script things.

00:27:14.000 Look, this says conspiracy.

00:27:17.000 Abramoff, agree with you as a District Court Judge, Ellen Whoville.

00:27:22.000 She's from Whoville, I guess.

00:27:24.000 Hubble, I guess she's cousins with the Grinch, when she said he engaged in a conspiracy involving corruption of public officials.

00:27:35.000 That is insane!

00:27:38.000 Corruption in government?

00:27:40.000 What?

00:27:41.000 Almost like that nutty conspiracy theorist, Alex Jones.

00:27:46.000 I tell you, this is really weird.

00:27:48.000 Corruption of public officials.

00:27:50.000 The lobbyist also agreed when she said he and others had engaged in a scheme.

00:27:55.000 A scheme?

00:27:56.000 That sounds like conspiracy.

00:27:57.000 That's impossible.

00:27:59.000 To provide campaign contributions, trips, and other items, like prostitutes, in exchange for certain official acts.

00:28:07.000 I don't believe it.

00:28:08.000 Even when that congressman admitted he stole $800 million.

00:28:11.000 I mean, he was fighting Al-Qaeda.

00:28:14.000 See, if we just had martial law, they could do all this and wouldn't get in trouble.

00:28:18.000 That's why they're probably gonna blow some stuff up real soon, to give us martial law, but don't worry, it'll be to stop the men with big beards.

00:28:25.000 The men with big beards are gonna get us, not the sequestered and cloistered, armed, black-masked killers in every city, just surging at the bit, surging on their chains to be released upon us, in a savage, gun-grabbing frenzy.

00:28:43.000 We have the clips. 0.76

00:28:43.000 Oh, I'm not kidding. 0.76

00:28:45.000 I love taking our guns.

00:28:47.000 Words will not ever be able to express my sorrow and my profound regret for all my actions and mistakes, Abramoff said, addressing the judge.

00:28:55.000 I hope I can merit forgiveness from the Almighty and those I've wronged or caused to suffer.

00:29:01.000 Oh, yes.

00:29:03.000 Do you know about Abramoff?

00:29:05.000 A rabid New World Order promoter. 0.98

00:29:07.000 A rabid, bloodthirsty creature.

00:29:10.000 To each of those three charges, Armatov or Abramoff said, I plead guilty, your honor.

00:29:16.000 Guilty to conspiracy.

00:29:18.000 Guilty to corruption of public officials.

00:29:20.000 Guilty to bribes.

00:29:22.000 That's impossible!

00:29:24.000 Again, the government has never done wrong.

00:29:28.000 They never collude.

00:29:29.000 That six trillion?

00:29:31.000 Missing?

00:29:32.000 I mean, trillion here, trillion there, pretty soon you got some pocket change.

00:29:38.000 There's nothing corrupt.

00:29:40.000 Let's just accept the cameras and the face scanning systems and everything that's going in that these people are putting in, all these known criminals.

00:29:47.000 Everything will be fine.

00:29:48.000 Criminals running things is good. 0.86

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:11.000 Thank you.

00:33:12.000 Thank you.

00:33:13.000 Davey, Anthony, Robert, Canyon, Gil, your calls are all coming up here in a few minutes.

00:33:23.000 I'm gonna try to not get back into the news until you've taken your calls.

00:33:26.000 I mean, I look at this, where now Bush is claiming that Or his surrogates are claiming, his Democratic surrogates, it's all totally staged to that level.

00:33:35.000 Pelosi's claiming, oh Bush didn't do anything wrong, the NSA did it on their own.

00:33:39.000 Hey, too late, we have all the documents, it's public.

00:33:42.000 Bush has been out bragging how he ordered spying.

00:33:45.000 But, the average American doesn't have that long of a memory, and so I guess he didn't then.

00:33:52.000 Alright, you say you didn't.

00:33:55.000 But the military now is becoming more and more against the war.

00:33:59.000 That's in a major poll of the military.

00:34:02.000 And the National Security Agency whistleblower warns domestic spying program is a sign the U.S.

00:34:07.000 is decaying into a police state.

00:34:11.000 Police!

00:34:13.000 So we'll get into that as well after we take some of your phone calls.

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00:37:03.000 I've got to come up with the new prices, which will be a little bit more than they are now.

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00:39:02.000 And just a little note here on you, the listeners, downloading copies of my films, PrisonPlanet.tv is a massive activist center.

00:39:16.000 It is a dynamo.

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00:39:49.000 PrisonPlanet.TV and it is a huge activist tool and Folks, I mean, I tell you, because of you making copies, I mean, the thousands of videos that we send out a year would do absolutely nothing except support our operation and get the word out over the radio and from the website, so it would do something, but nothing compared

00:40:14.000 To many of you who've even been in local newspapers doing it, from Texas to Louisiana to New York to California.

00:40:21.000 I mean, there are people who've made 10,000 copies of Road to Tyranny.

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00:40:26.000 It shows them with a trailer in the local newspaper just unloading them to people at swap meets.

00:40:30.000 He's driving around giving them out.

00:40:32.000 I mean, I've gotten calls from New Zealand, calls from Austin saying, please stop putting them on every police car in the parking lot.

00:40:41.000 Hey, buddy, I'm not putting them on the police cars in, you know, the capital of New Zealand.

00:40:46.000 So, you know, I'm not climbing up on an abandoned skyscraper or some 20-story building and spraying InfoWars across it, you know, a hundred feet tall and 300 feet long or something.

00:41:01.000 The kind of stuff that's going on out there.

00:41:03.000 But the point is, is you guys, you gals, are having a massive effect.

00:41:08.000 You are hurting the New World Order badly.

00:41:11.000 And so, literally, this show is like a mustard seed.

00:41:14.000 A mustard seed is tiny.

00:41:15.000 You can hardly see it on the end of your finger, you know.

00:41:18.000 They have sesame seeds and mustard seeds on some bagels or some hamburger buns.

00:41:22.000 You know those little bitty seeds with the little black seeds?

00:41:25.000 You can barely see.

00:41:26.000 The sesame seed is a little bit bigger and shaped like a football.

00:41:29.000 But it's still tiny, less than a millimeter.

00:41:30.000 But you know, the mustard seed is a little black dot.

00:41:33.000 That's a mustard seed.

00:41:35.000 The mustard seed grows into a mustard tree, a mustard bush.

00:41:38.000 It's big!

00:41:40.000 And literally, this show is a mustard seed, using the biblical analogy, because it fits. 0.98

00:41:45.000 You guys plant it, you water it, and now we're dumping seeds.

00:41:50.000 Now we're a whole forest of mustard plants.

00:41:53.000 I mean, it's getting ridiculous here.

00:41:55.000 Just keep it going. 0.99

00:41:56.000 These smiley-faced criminals are going to go to prison.

00:41:59.000 More and more, it looks like more and more high-level congressmen are going to go to prison.

00:42:03.000 It looks like there's a war inside the government.

00:42:05.000 It looks like a lot of people in the CIA and Defense Intelligence aren't going to go along with this anymore.

00:42:11.000 They know who carried out the terror attacks.

00:42:13.000 How many prominent people from Reagan and Bush Sr.

00:42:15.000 and current Bush administration have gone public and said that on this show?

00:42:20.000 So listen, we really are turning the corner.

00:42:21.000 And so to all of you, use those activist tools and I want to commend you.

00:42:25.000 And I want to thank, think about it, we have AM and FM affiliates that have stuck with us When I went on the air on 9-11 and said it was a government op, and the lion's share of our affiliates stuck with us, and now we've gained even more.

00:42:40.000 But I mean, think about those stations.

00:42:41.000 Think about WBCR with Harry Grothjohn there in Tennessee right outside Knoxville.

00:42:50.000 Think about him.

00:42:52.000 You know, taking the heat, and now of course being proven totally right, and now it's just common knowledge.

00:42:56.000 Accepted, you know, known fact.

00:42:59.000 Public secret's the term they use.

00:43:01.000 Take something like KCXL in Kansas City, carrying us now for what, six years or something?

00:43:07.000 Longer?

00:43:07.000 You know, taking the heat.

00:43:10.000 Think about the stations like WVTJ in Florida.

00:43:14.000 Think about the Sunshine Network, that group of stations up in upstate New York, carrying us, what is it, like eight years or something?

00:43:21.000 Think about what they did.

00:43:22.000 And now I get to go on Alan Combs on National Radio in Dallas and Chicago and everywhere and say it.

00:43:28.000 Now I get to go on Coast to Coast KM and say it.

00:43:31.000 Now they talk about it openly on C-SPAN. 0.96

00:43:33.000 Because they kept saying the world was flat We kept saying it was round, and we're not going to stop until you child kidnapping, drug dealing, cancer virus splicing trash go down.

00:43:49.000 And we don't claim we're going to save the world, but you know what?

00:43:52.000 We hate evil and we're going to fight it.

00:43:54.000 And see, I don't care.

00:43:57.000 If what I'm saying is popular.

00:43:59.000 I don't stick my finger in the wind.

00:44:01.000 I don't take on some fake persona.

00:44:03.000 I don't craft who I am like I'm an artist using a palette of what will make me look the coolest and sell the best to have some type of minor celebrity, you know, in my own world.

00:44:14.000 I just do what's right and I don't care if, you know, I walk out of here today and they gun me down.

00:44:20.000 I don't care if they walk up and bump into me with a needle and give me cancer.

00:44:23.000 I just don't care.

00:44:25.000 And man, when you don't care anymore, you've got something on your side.

00:44:30.000 When you're committed, when you don't have anything to lose, that's when you gain everything, folks.

00:44:36.000 And I just wish some of you out there that are afraid understood that.

00:44:40.000 I wish you knew that we're in this place because we let them bully us.

00:44:43.000 Alright, I'm going to take calls.

00:44:44.000 That's it.

00:44:46.000 Who's up first here?

00:44:48.000 Let's go to Davey in Texas first because he was on at the end of the show yesterday and didn't get on.

00:44:52.000 Davey, go ahead.

00:44:53.000 Alex, you got me thinking about so many things I don't know where to start.

00:44:58.000 You know, after a sermon like that, generally speaking, there was a baptism or two to follow right after.

00:45:07.000 Well, I started out to call you yesterday because you mentioned Osama Bin Laden right there at the beginning of the program.

00:45:13.000 I haven't got a chance to listen to you much lately.

00:45:17.000 You know, you've underscored it so many times, and just in your sermon there, you know, the inside job part of it is, if you say 85% of American people are on board with the fact that it's his inside job, then, hey, you know, it looks like we've got some interesting moments up ahead.

00:45:35.000 Well, I'd say about half the population will.

00:45:38.000 Most of them are afraid to say it, but they've done national polls.

00:45:41.000 Depending on the poll, it's 90 to 50 percent believe that there was some involvement by the government or that they funded it to happen.

00:45:48.000 And I'd say about 30 percent know that it's an absolute government op.

00:45:52.000 And then there's a certain percentage who just will never wake up.

00:45:55.000 I mean, they could watch Bush barbecue small children on the White House lawn.

00:45:59.000 They'd call it a sacrament.

00:46:00.000 Right.

00:46:04.000 Just to be short and let the other callers in, I'll bypass the other three pages here and get right to the end.

00:46:10.000 No, just go ahead and cover it.

00:46:12.000 Well, yesterday Judy Andreas had a piece I saw on Rent's site about Zionism and Osama Bin Laden's declaration of war, which I've been paying attention to things for quite a while, Alex.

00:46:30.000 I was down there at the University of Texas back in the mid-eighties and studied on radical Islam in the Middle East.

00:46:36.000 I knew quite a few people from that area of the world.

00:46:39.000 I also had Jewish friends and a Jewish roommate while I was there in Austin.

00:46:46.000 For all of the people in America and the world who have been hoodwinked, bushwhacked, lied to, called it whatever you want to, it just seems that There's a reluctance on the part of the American people to really and truly forcefully confront the issue.

00:47:03.000 And last weekend, you know, over the holidays there, I watched to Helen Beck, you know, the story about Audi Murphy.

00:47:10.000 You know, Alex, if I had a time machine, man, I'd go back and you and I would play on the same football team, okay?

00:47:17.000 It would be a lot of fun.

00:47:19.000 You remind me a lot of Audi Murphy.

00:47:20.000 Oh, please, come on! 0.99

00:47:24.000 Well, I'm not up on top of tanks shooting Germans.

00:47:28.000 Well, in the spirit of the fight, you know, I mean, you've whipped a veritable army into shape, brother.

00:47:35.000 You know, I mean, frankly, you've carried the lion's share of the load here the last five or six, eight, ten years, and, you know, you deserve a lot of respect and honor for that.

00:47:45.000 But, you know, my parting question rhetorically would be, these fires we see in Texas, Is there any correlation to our, uh, turning our back on our neighbors, the Branch Davidians, when their house was being burned down with them in it? 1.00

00:48:01.000 And to letting these, you know, international criminal New World Order Gestapo terrorists terrorize the planet?

00:48:08.000 By telling the American people lies, we have to do this, you know?

00:48:13.000 But they won't go after the real terrorists on this planet, who are the economic terrorists, who print currency Call it money and claim to have authority.

00:48:23.000 No, I agree with you, Davey, and I'll say that, yes, it is a law of the universe, God's law, that what comes around goes around.

00:48:31.000 It is guaranteed in life.

00:48:32.000 Listen, I am afraid to do somebody wrong, unless I'm defending myself, because in my experience, whatever I do comes back on me. 1.00

00:48:41.000 I guess they call it the fear of God, and these idiots don't have it, and that's why they're so unhappy. 1.00

00:48:46.000 Anyway... I mean, you get back what you did, and there's no doubt that we're being judged as a nation. 1.00

00:48:51.000 We're being judged by the leadership we have that is raping the living daylights out of us, literally and figuratively, because we're not standing up against them.

00:48:58.000 Hey, if you get a chance for a lighter moment, think about having old Jackie Mason on.

00:49:02.000 Yeah, that'd be good.

00:49:03.000 That'd be fun.

00:49:04.000 Listen, Davey, good to hear from you.

00:49:05.000 I remember seeing you down there when we built Memorial Chapel in Waco.

00:49:09.000 Good to hear from you, Davey.

00:49:10.000 Good guy there.

00:49:11.000 Let's go ahead and go back to the calls, if I can find my call list.

00:49:16.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Anthony in Louisiana.

00:49:19.000 Anthony, welcome.

00:49:20.000 Alex, when talking at school to professors and what not about the New World Order, I You know, they're reading too much of the Southern Law Center, you know, their propaganda where they say, well, if you believe in the New World Order, that means you're an extreme right-wing Nazi or racist or something.

00:49:38.000 Oh, the Harvard newspaper said you should be arrested.

00:49:40.000 It doesn't exist.

00:49:42.000 Right.

00:49:42.000 Meanwhile, presidents are openly calling for it.

00:49:44.000 Oh yeah, so it's hard for me to point light to the fact that so many people do mention that term.

00:49:49.000 It wasn't just Bush and his Night at One speech, and that's That's what that stuff says over and over again.

00:49:56.000 Well, the Pope just did.

00:49:57.000 Right, right.

00:49:58.000 Yeah, I mean, there's so many cases of it, but I was thinking maybe of trying to clue people in on the shadow government more and more, and you gave me an idea a long time ago on a show I went to like a year ago.

00:50:08.000 You said that during Reagan's first campaign, I forgot who he was running against.

00:50:13.000 It wasn't Mondale, but it was Bush.

00:50:16.000 No, Bush was his VP mate, his running mate.

00:50:20.000 But he was running against Bush at first, and he said the evil CFR is trying to create a world government.

00:50:26.000 That's it.

00:50:26.000 Exactly.

00:50:27.000 Okay, good.

00:50:27.000 Thank you.

00:50:28.000 I'm going to research that.

00:50:29.000 Alright, bye.

00:50:30.000 You bet.

00:50:30.000 Thank you.

00:50:31.000 Listen, this is how it mainly works.

00:50:36.000 They pay off key politicians.

00:50:39.000 I'll briefly explain when we get back, but it's really simple.

00:50:43.000 They pay off key politicians.

00:50:47.000 Then those politicians basically appoint the deputies of the heads of industry, and then the heads of industry directly order around their deputies that are the heads of federal agencies.

00:50:59.000 That's how it works.

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00:53:57.000 Why, Newsweek. Newsweek. .

00:54:24.000 A week or so after we reported on it, CIA commander, U.S.

00:54:28.000 let bin Laden slip away.

00:54:29.000 That's the new big 2006 report.

00:54:33.000 Oh, we've been reporting on it for years, but then there's new revelations, but Newsweek!

00:54:37.000 Oh, incredible!

00:54:38.000 But listen, the Globalist is a good old boys club.

00:54:41.000 It's run by organized crime.

00:54:43.000 The average little professor who's on their payroll will say, it's impossible to have big groups engaging in mass programs of crime.

00:54:51.000 Why, they'd be discovered.

00:54:52.000 Oh really?

00:54:54.000 But there's an admitted, what, $300 billion a year narcotics trade with organized crime controlling most of it, along with the government?

00:55:02.000 It's just these people are living in this naive world.

00:55:05.000 They get caught all the time.

00:55:07.000 It's just no one gets in trouble, no one goes to jail.

00:55:10.000 Though that's starting to change right now, which shows me there's a fight going on in the government.

00:55:14.000 That's the only time that happens in modern history.

00:55:18.000 Let's try to move through your calls quickly now.

00:55:20.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Robert in California.

00:55:23.000 Go ahead.

00:55:24.000 Hi Alex.

00:55:25.000 Hi.

00:55:26.000 I just wanted to give a story about my background.

00:55:29.000 I've been listening to you for a while now, but I got started after the second election of Bush, who I voted for, unfortunately.

00:55:36.000 I heard you on the Coast to Coast Show and totally got woken up.

00:55:40.000 Like they say in the Dune movie, the sleeper has woken.

00:55:43.000 So I got really concerned about what could I do.

00:55:46.000 So I went back to college and took the RTV program courses at college to learn how to make my own videos.

00:55:52.000 You've already done that in the last year.

00:55:54.000 Yeah, I've already finished my first year.

00:55:56.000 But my instructor there came from the News Media Corporation.

00:56:02.000 He had been there for 20 years.

00:56:05.000 And the first thing I started trying to bring up was that conspiracies exist and that it was an inside job.

00:56:10.000 And he directly teaches that conspiracies can exist and to only do stories at a 7th grade level to make our audience feel good.

00:56:18.000 So it's kind of an elitism.

00:56:22.000 So he told you conspiracies cannot exist, so he wouldn't do the Abramoff story.

00:56:28.000 They don't touch anything and they don't allow us to do it, even though we do a college news show program.

00:56:34.000 They totally control all the stories that, you know... Yeah, well I took some RTF and yeah, that's it.

00:56:39.000 The government's God, hand in your guns, world government's good. 0.95

00:56:42.000 Listen, what they teach is world government's good, unless you're against it, then it doesn't exist and you're insane. 0.97

00:56:47.000 Well, they got to me too late, because now I've watched all your material and I'm a subscriber to the... Well, I mean, what do you say to this buffoon? 0.97

00:56:54.000 Um, basically, uh, that's just total bull.

00:56:58.000 And he basically, like, just smiles at me and lets me, you know, get an A in the class and, uh, Progress but don't really try to challenge them.

00:57:07.000 You know, you ought to do a news report.

00:57:08.000 Do a news report on Northwoods and Gulf of Tonkin and just have all... Well, they say it's an open news forum and that we could do any related, you know, stories that are in the press but then they spike them at the end of the week when we try to turn them in.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, they're teaching you what editors do.

00:57:23.000 But the real news story is, you've already hit on them both today, is it's obvious why this minor tragedy story is being handled the way it's being handled.

00:57:31.000 The news media is Desperate not to talk about President Indy's takeover and his fine programs, and to avoid talking about the DynCorp scandal.

00:57:40.000 Well, you know, that's it.

00:57:42.000 They need a cover story.

00:57:43.000 No, I agree, but what you're saying is true.

00:57:45.000 This is a takeover.

00:57:47.000 I mean, we are in the middle of a takeover.

00:57:49.000 Well, I know just this story you had up on your page this morning, the army occupied downtown of Winnipeg.

00:57:55.000 All over the western world, they're doing these military takeover drills, and if you go to those drills, they admit it is for martial law.

00:58:04.000 But see, if it was just a regular tragedy in this mining accident, it would get one news cycle, now that I understand how that works.

00:58:10.000 But if they use a coordinated misinformation tactic with the Bush media management team, then they can send in a squad and interview everybody in town all week and take up the news story headlines all week with a single story.

00:58:23.000 That's right, and did they over-react with the SWAT team?

00:58:26.000 And then, addedly, will then condition everybody to accept SWAT teams.

00:58:30.000 Exactly.

00:58:31.000 And the other point was, the transportation strike in New York was obviously an operation to allow LCIA to... We've got to turn our back.

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00:58:48.000 Help! Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Okay, we'll take a few more calls in this segment, and then we will get to our next guest.

00:59:21.000 Headline, CIA operatives as Bush military leaders let bin Laden escape.

00:59:26.000 This is NBC News, um, exclusive, oh yes, CIA commander U.S.

00:59:31.000 let Bin Laden slip away, and a lot more.

00:59:34.000 That's coming up in a few minutes.

00:59:35.000 Is that last caller who was holding still there?

00:59:37.000 He was mentioning how in his college RTF class he, the uh, the professor teaches him that no conspiracies exist and just tell the people stuff that makes them feel good.

00:59:47.000 Is Robert still there?

00:59:48.000 Yeah, I'm still here.

00:59:49.000 Finish up real fast.

00:59:50.000 You were finishing up your other point about you think the whole strike thing was a diversion for what?

00:59:54.000 Yeah, just like on 9-11 they shut down the building for so-called upgrades, this gives the LCIA the perfect opportunity to go in the subways and plant, you know.

01:00:04.000 bombs to be outright with it and uh... and use that as leverage when they don't agree re-up the Patriot Act.

01:00:09.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:00:10.000 We've seen them do this before and we know it was the government bombing the London subway so I don't put it past them.

01:00:15.000 Thanks for the call.

01:00:16.000 And tell that professor he ought to be ashamed of himself.

01:00:19.000 Teaching you not to report to the people.

01:00:22.000 I mean, by the way, that's what they do.

01:00:24.000 That's why I was like, I quit.

01:00:25.000 I left college.

01:00:26.000 I was making good grades.

01:00:27.000 I was like, I'm not going to be taught how to not think.

01:00:29.000 I'm not going to be taught how to be a slave.

01:00:31.000 They would teach us, world government's good, guns are bad, but then in the next class there's crazy people that believe in a world government.

01:00:37.000 And I'm like, well wait, this textbook says world government's good, but this one says it doesn't exist.

01:00:41.000 And I'm, you know, it isn't going to work anymore, okay?

01:00:45.000 We're not going along with you.

01:00:47.000 Let's go to Rose in South Carolina.

01:00:48.000 And then we'll go to Canyon and others.

01:00:51.000 Rose, welcome.

01:00:53.000 Good afternoon Alex.

01:00:54.000 Hi Rose.

01:00:55.000 How are you doing today?

01:00:56.000 I think maybe they're going to sacrifice a few congressmen to save Bush because the general public cannot think on more than one story at a time.

01:01:08.000 Well I've said that many times, that either this is a legitimate fight inside the government, whistleblowers going public, But what they'll do is they'll let it go so far to give the illusion of sanity and the illusion of evil getting in trouble to make us all go back to sleep.

01:01:25.000 I call it the steam valve, releasing some pressure.

01:01:28.000 And yes, they'll burn some of their own people. 0.77

01:01:30.000 Remember Chandra Levy? 0.92

01:01:33.000 They never found who killed her, did they?

01:01:36.000 No, they didn't.

01:01:38.000 I think they sacrificed that congressman, whether he did or not.

01:01:42.000 It looks like if they were going to find him guilty, they would have found him guilty.

01:01:48.000 I believe that was a sacrifice that congressman... Well, I agree.

01:01:52.000 Burning and sacrificing a few congressmen here and there also keeps them in line.

01:01:57.000 Well, let me ask you something.

01:01:59.000 The Russian River got flooded.

01:02:00.000 Did it have anything to do with the Bohemian Grove?

01:02:03.000 Did it get flooded out?

01:02:05.000 No, the Bohemian Grove is about 300 feet above the Russian River.

01:02:10.000 Oh, oh.

01:02:12.000 The basin of the valley it's in is about, no it's not true, 200 feet above the Russian River at it's lowest point.

01:02:20.000 And talking about kidnapping Alex, that girl in Aruba, I believe she was sold as a sex slave.

01:02:26.000 I do not, I said that from the start.

01:02:28.000 Yeah, that's what a lot of people say is we ought to be looking in Saudi Arabia.

01:02:32.000 Alright, thank you Alex.

01:02:34.000 I think you're going to do a good job.

01:02:35.000 Thank you so much.

01:02:36.000 Yeah, folks, there are how many?

01:02:39.000 20,000 princes in Saudi Arabia and most of them got harems.

01:02:47.000 And, folks, they have slaves in those harems. 1.00

01:02:49.000 I mean, that's mainstream news.

01:02:51.000 But, again, back of the newspaper, oh yeah, they got slaves in harems, and the prince is coming to see Bush this week at the ranch.

01:02:59.000 Oh, well, they've got harems filled with hundreds of slaves, but it's no big deal. 0.88

01:03:03.000 They're our ally.

01:03:05.000 They're our friends.

01:03:06.000 Let's not talk about how they have slaves in their harems, their brothels, their slave brothels, their slave stables as they call them. 0.98

01:03:15.000 No, let's just talk about Aruba.

01:03:20.000 And the Beach Boys or something.

01:03:21.000 And again, I'm not lessening that girl.

01:03:25.000 It's just that I'm not going to get upset about what the media tells me to get upset about.

01:03:31.000 I am going to get upset about the issues that I personally think are important.

01:03:37.000 And you should get upset about what you think is important.

01:03:39.000 Don't let me set your agenda either.

01:03:42.000 I'm just pointing out that I think the agenda the media gives us is a big fat distraction Or it's a whitewash.

01:03:48.000 We'll be right back to talk about some really serious news on the other side.

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01:07:00.000 All right, we've got him for about 23 minutes.

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01:07:08.000 And here are the headlines.

01:07:11.000 CIA operatives as Bush military leaders let bin Laden escape.

01:07:16.000 And it's a similar headline out of Newsweek.

01:07:21.000 And the book, of course, is Jawbreaker, the attack on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, a personal account by the CIA's key field commander.

01:07:31.000 And we'll tell you about Gary Bernstein's new book, Jawbreaker.

01:07:35.000 That was the name of the particular operation, and then they were blocked from getting the 800, I guess, Special Forces or Rangers, Green Berets, to go in and get them, and that dovetails with Army generals saying that they had Taliban generals and were ordered to release them.

01:07:50.000 Or, oh, give the Pakistanis the C-130s and we're going to fly 8,000 Taliban and Al-Qaeda out. 0.95

01:07:57.000 Oh, we've got a Predator drone with bin Laden in sight.

01:08:01.000 Don't drop bombs.

01:08:02.000 And then we have all these other people running around saying, well, we don't want to capture bin Laden because if we do, that will somehow energize the Al-Qaeda. 0.64

01:08:12.000 I mean that's sarcastic when I say Al-Qaeda. 0.85

01:08:14.000 I hear these people on talk shows calling them Al-Qaedis.

01:08:17.000 Everything else you can imagine.

01:08:19.000 But I just briefly wanted to read to you folks just a few quotes of Bush in the last few years.

01:08:25.000 I don't know where Bin Laden is and I have no idea.

01:08:28.000 I really don't care.

01:08:28.000 We even have the clips.

01:08:30.000 It's not that important.

01:08:31.000 It's not our priority.

01:08:32.000 Here's another one.

01:08:33.000 I am truly not that concerned about him.

01:08:37.000 And then John Kerry, who I'm no fan of, brought this up to Bush, and Bush said, how dare you!

01:08:40.000 I never said that!

01:08:41.000 He said it over 15 times.

01:08:43.000 We have the quotes.

01:08:45.000 Don't bring up Bin Laden, I don't want to hear about him. 0.96

01:08:47.000 But then I've got to have Viper teams with TSA in Dallas and Houston randomly searching us, demanding to see our IDs on the side of the road and at shopping malls.

01:08:57.000 But my border is wide open, and Bush is saying he doesn't care about Usama Bin Laden.

01:09:02.000 So going to our guest, And who we really appreciate coming on with us.

01:09:09.000 He, again, is the author of the new book, and that is Jawbreaker.

01:09:17.000 And our guest is Gary Bernstein.

01:09:20.000 Gary, thanks for coming on.

01:09:21.000 It's a pleasure being with you today, Alex.

01:09:23.000 You bet.

01:09:25.000 Just in a nutshell, tell us who you are, what you did, as one of the senior commanders for espionage operations.

01:09:33.000 I spent 23 years with the Central Intelligence Agency as a member of its clandestine service.

01:09:38.000 During that time, I had served as a Chief of Station, a senior officer in-country, in a number of countries around the world, and also led a number of CIA's most important counter-terrorism responses.

01:09:50.000 The book begins, Jawbreaker, in East Africa, with the bombings of our embassies in Nairobi and in Dar es Salaam, and I led the team out there in the response and worked closely hand-in-glove with the FBI As we captured those first Al-Qaeda members, and then we realized that it wasn't Hezbollah, because Hezbollah, you know, the Shias of Lebanon had done a number of large-scale attacks that were like those attacks, and then we realized for the first time that Bin Laden had finally gone big. 0.83

01:10:18.000 I then am sent into Afghanistan in 2000, a year before 11 September, as part of a six-man team, and I'm working with the Ahmad Shah Massoud people in the Northern Alliance, to try to kidnap and snatch one of bin Laden's key lieutenants.

01:10:35.000 Unfortunately, a bit too much risk aversion in the Clinton administration and an unwillingness to keep us on the ground there long enough to do our job.

01:10:43.000 Now, is your team going to physically, yourself, snatch and grab one of bin Laden's operatives?

01:10:48.000 We would have done it in concert with the Northern Alliance with their intel elements.

01:10:55.000 We never got to that final point where we actually were able to execute the plan.

01:10:58.000 Would you try to send an entry team into where he was sleeping, or just grab him off the road?

01:11:04.000 At that point, the borders there, you get a front line of Al-Qaeda on one side and us on another, but there were other areas that were sort of, areas that were uncontrolled.

01:11:15.000 It would not have been impossible to flip people through It would not have been impossible to have Northern Alliance guys, you know, cross the border to visit families.

01:11:22.000 And they used to do that.

01:11:23.000 Guys on the Northern Alliance side would, you know, put on civilian clothes, go visit the city, and vice versa.

01:11:27.000 Members of the Taliban would visit other areas.

01:11:29.000 Now, Sudan offered to give a bunch of documents years before that to Clinton, and offered to try to arrest bin Laden.

01:11:37.000 And Clinton, this has been mainstream news, said, no, I don't want him.

01:11:41.000 Is that correct from the history you've got?

01:11:44.000 I was never involved in that operation during that period of time.

01:11:47.000 I was focusing on the Hezbollah account in CIA.

01:11:51.000 Have you heard of that?

01:11:53.000 I've heard of that.

01:11:54.000 There was almost 10 other efforts to get Bin Laden And the Clinton administration would not stand up and they couldn't.

01:12:02.000 They just wouldn't do it.

01:12:03.000 Oh, ten other efforts.

01:12:05.000 I knew of four others with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

01:12:10.000 They were offering.

01:12:11.000 In fact, some of the senior Taliban was offering to try to get him and then nothing happened.

01:12:16.000 You are correct.

01:12:17.000 Multiple occasions we had opportunities and they were constantly turned down because of the inability to face the risk.

01:12:24.000 You say ten though.

01:12:25.000 I was only aware of four.

01:12:26.000 Can you fill me in on the others?

01:12:28.000 There were others that were inside of Afghanistan where we had the opportunity to either kill him or to snatch him, and most of those were run by Shoyer, and in Shoyer's book he talks about that.

01:12:39.000 Some of the things haven't been made public, but there was enough of them.

01:12:43.000 You know, there was one where he was at the hunting camp, and there was a possibility of firing missiles at him there, but he was being visited by sheiks from the United Arab Emirates. 0.98

01:12:53.000 What about when we see all those being visited by the Saudis who couldn't touch him? 0.99

01:12:57.000 What about when we see articles where a special forces colonel goes public and says, we had him cornered in Tora Bora.

01:13:03.000 That's what your book's saying.

01:13:05.000 We're told to back off.

01:13:07.000 I don't think you go that far.

01:13:09.000 You just said they wouldn't give you... No, there was never any... no one ever said to back off.

01:13:14.000 We made significant efforts to conduct airstrikes against him.

01:13:18.000 I was the person who was sort of the architect of that effort down there because I sent the first men, eight men, into Nangarhar province.

01:13:25.000 And then that eight-man unit met up with warlords that we had arranged to meet in Jalalabad.

01:13:30.000 They moved south down to the mountains, the White Mountains.

01:13:33.000 We put a four-man team up on top of a mountain over Bin Laden and the thousand people that had fled back with him into those mountains, and commenced the airstrikes for 56 hours, and shredded his, uh, that element that was with him initially. 0.53

01:13:47.000 Now, sir, sir, sir, Buzzy Krongard, though, who was number three at the CIA, obviously you know that, do you know Buzzy?

01:13:55.000 Yeah, I know he is.

01:13:56.000 Well, Buzzy told the Times of London, and they've got the audio of it, he said, oh, we don't want Bin Laden.

01:14:02.000 Headline, number three man says U.S.

01:14:03.000 doesn't want Bin Laden.

01:14:04.000 He says that that would somehow hurt our war effort if he wasn't there as this useful logo.

01:14:10.000 Now that's a statement that has absolutely no, had no reality in my mind.

01:14:17.000 I was given instructions by Cobra Black to kill Bin Laden, or capture him, and was doing everything possible.

01:14:22.000 We threw a 15,000 pound Uh, Blue 82 at a position we believed he was at. 0.67

01:14:27.000 B-52 strikes. 0.99

01:14:28.000 We did everything possible to kill him. 0.96

01:14:30.000 There was no standing down.

01:14:33.000 The only thing that we didn't receive is when I requested the introduction of ground forces.

01:14:37.000 You know, 6-800 Rangers.

01:14:39.000 They never came.

01:14:40.000 Uh, you know, the, uh, you know, CENTCOM commanders, you know, wanted to do this with airstrikes.

01:14:45.000 Well, I'm just trying to understand this, sir, because, I mean, I understand you were there trying to get him, and, and, and tried your best.

01:14:50.000 I'm not saying you weren't trying.

01:14:52.000 What I'm saying is, Buzzy Krongart, on record, has told several international papers, and has not denied it, that our government, and he was number three at CIA when he said this, that our government doesn't want bin Laden out.

01:15:03.000 Now, why is he saying that, and then you're saying something else?

01:15:06.000 I have no idea, and he was the Executive Director, which had a lot to do with resources there, but in the Directorate of Operations, we were doing everything possible to kill him.

01:15:15.000 I don't know why he would make a statement like that, and it's beyond me how he could make such a statement, because we did receive the air power that we wanted.

01:15:26.000 The only thing we didn't get was the soldiers on the ground.

01:15:29.000 But sir, you were there in 2001, 2002, and it was still really a hot war.

01:15:33.000 It seems like there was a policy change.

01:15:34.000 First, Bush is saying, let me just read the quote, he says, this is of course not new information, and it goes on, it says, the most important thing for us is for us to find Osama Bin Laden.

01:15:44.000 It is our number one priority, and we will not rest until we find him.

01:15:48.000 Then, a year later, it goes to, I don't know where Bin Laden is, I have no idea, and I really don't care.

01:15:53.000 It's not that important.

01:15:54.000 It's not a priority.

01:15:56.000 Well, I would say that leadership matters.

01:15:58.000 It matters that we have a president who's strong and willing to fight the war on terrorism.

01:16:01.000 Leadership on the other side matters, too.

01:16:03.000 They look up to him. 1.00

01:16:04.000 We need to eliminate him or capture him in an effort to sort of decapitate... So you don't think bin Laden's been eliminated? 0.77

01:16:12.000 No.

01:16:13.000 We have to operate on the premise that he is still alive and functioning until he is either captured or converted.

01:16:18.000 But I mean, really, your gut, your instinct, my instinct and the intel I've got, and I've certainly not been in Afghanistan like you, but talking to other intelligence officers, is that he died of kidney failure in the last few years.

01:16:29.000 I mean, he has a dialysis machine living in the mountains?

01:16:32.000 I mean... I wouldn't believe... Well, you know, I mean, I was aware of the fact that he was looking for that, but you have to remember, this is a man that has significant resources.

01:16:39.000 He could get money, he could get people, he could get things in to keep them alive, I believe.

01:16:43.000 You gotta remember, his father was the most wealthy man in Saudi Arabia.

01:16:47.000 He built the Grand Mosque.

01:16:48.000 At one point, 20 years ago, when the Saudi government ran out of funds, his father paid the salaries of all Saudi government employees for six months.

01:16:56.000 No, I know, they're as powerful as it gets.

01:17:00.000 Okay, so where do you think Bin Laden is then?

01:17:02.000 I mean, from all the intelligence.

01:17:03.000 I would assume, I would assume, Uh, that of course, you know, when he fell back across the, uh, you know, the border into Pakistan, there are 25 million Fatans living in, you know, the southern part of Afghanistan, the northern part of Pakistan, along that border area.

01:17:17.000 And as part of their code of life is they will not turn in people that have sought sanctuary.

01:17:22.000 He also helped them during the Soviet Jihad period.

01:17:24.000 He established schools, hospitals.

01:17:26.000 He did developmental work with those people.

01:17:28.000 And, and there's a lot of loyalty to him.

01:17:31.000 Well, let me ask you about this.

01:17:34.000 Did you ever see any of the files about his work with the CIA and his codename?

01:17:41.000 No.

01:17:41.000 The fact is that during the Soviet Jihad, we worked with a lot of commanders and had contact with a lot of people, a lot of individuals there, and so that's not surprising that agency officers may have I've seen him or provided resources.

01:18:00.000 Ever heard the name Tim Osmond, sir?

01:18:02.000 No, I've never heard that name.

01:18:06.000 Well, that was his code name.

01:18:07.000 That's what the CIA called him when he was here in the U.S.

01:18:11.000 I've never heard that name.

01:18:13.000 I have no knowledge of that.

01:18:16.000 I can send you.

01:18:17.000 It's been in major papers.

01:18:18.000 I mean, if it's not true, we want to know.

01:18:20.000 I don't believe that that's...

01:18:25.000 I'd have to see the background on that, but I don't believe there's a basis in fact on that.

01:18:30.000 Okay.

01:18:30.000 Well, we've got to take a quick break, sir.

01:18:32.000 I've got one more segment with you.

01:18:33.000 I want to get into your book, Jawbreaker.

01:18:34.000 It sounds really interesting.

01:18:35.000 I haven't read it yet.

01:18:36.000 Tell me a little about the publisher's website and how they can get it.

01:18:40.000 I've got a few other questions about the war period and about intelligence and several other issues that are covered in your book.

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01:23:04.000 And the book's jawbreaker, the attack on Bin Laden in Al-Qaeda, a personal account of the CIA's key field commander.

01:23:10.000 You know, I've talked to folks who've been over there.

01:23:12.000 They say it's literally like the Stone Age.

01:23:14.000 I mean, is it like a caveman land over there, or is it something in between that and civilization, sir?

01:23:21.000 It's pretty sparse.

01:23:22.000 It's very rough terrain.

01:23:24.000 It's, you know, you have to remember that invaders, you know, the British, the Soviets, Anyone that has gone in there over the past, you know, several hundred years has taken a beating.

01:23:34.000 And it's tough, it's hard health-wise, and militarily it's a tough place to tame.

01:23:39.000 In fact, I saw some stories that the casualties are actually at record levels there now per month for U.S.

01:23:44.000 troops.

01:23:45.000 For this year, I think there have been 1,500 people, that's including Afghans, and some losses on the U.S.

01:23:51.000 side, you know, fighting Remnants of the Taliban that continue to try to cross back over.

01:23:56.000 Now, I mean, isn't this a slogan for Americans to understand?

01:24:00.000 But, I mean, when they call it Al-Qaeda in Iraq, or Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, or Al-Qaeda, and then when you actually read the fine print, it's just some other Islamist group.

01:24:09.000 I mean, isn't that just kind of a name they slap on it?

01:24:12.000 Yes, I think that you are correct in that statement, and that those individuals crossing into Afghanistan are, you know, they're Taliban. 0.88

01:24:21.000 They're remnants of the Taliban.

01:24:23.000 You know, Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden, it's sort of a... I shouldn't use the word.

01:24:29.000 There's a word for it, almost like a business, but it's franchised.

01:24:33.000 He has had contact with other groups around the world, in Indonesia, and he's working with them.

01:24:39.000 So, you know, we're fighting Islamic extremism now. 0.58

01:24:44.000 It's not just Al-Qaeda.

01:24:46.000 You have to realize that if you look at the city of Karachi alone, there are over 200,000 students in those madrasas that are receiving You know, the word of hatred against the U.S.

01:24:55.000 on a daily basis.

01:24:55.000 So there's a never-ending source of people to strap on bombs and to come at us.

01:25:01.000 But I go back, sir, to the 1950s when our government, and this is public policy, and obviously you probably know more about this than I do, but it's admitted with Kermit Roosevelt and the rest of them to go radicalize the Muslims because they didn't want strong governments in there. 0.52

01:25:15.000 They wanted governments that they could control or bulwarks against the Soviets.

01:25:19.000 and the Washington Post about shipping in the radical hadiths from the madrasas, and all of this whole cozying up that has been going on.

01:25:30.000 And meanwhile, the government's saying, we've got to have the Pentagon spy on the American people or Al-Qaeda's going to get you.

01:25:36.000 I mean, number one, what do you think about radicalizing the Muslims in the 50s, or do you deny that?

01:25:41.000 And then number two...

01:25:42.000 No, I think that there were some efforts on the part of the U.S. in its anti-soviet campaign to use the Islamic card And quite frankly, we lit the fuse on that one, because this thing has taken off and has long-term implications that went beyond what anybody would have believed would have occurred years ago. 0.70

01:26:04.000 And it is a problem.

01:26:06.000 And we, of course, the group, you know, the Soviet, the Afghans that participated in the jihad, took from that experience The ability that they could defeat a world power and actually believe they can beat us. 1.00

01:26:17.000 And that they can bleed us to death. 0.96

01:26:19.000 So a little bit, a little too much motivation there.

01:26:23.000 A little bit too much.

01:26:24.000 You're right.

01:26:24.000 Okay, well what about the situation with the spying here domestically?

01:26:28.000 You know this.

01:26:29.000 The FISA court is retroactive.

01:26:31.000 It doesn't block the government from listening to an al-Qaeda call. 0.74

01:26:34.000 That's just baloney.

01:26:35.000 I know you don't want to criticize the government, but I mean now, you know, the NSA spying on reporters, is this freedom?

01:26:42.000 What I would say is this.

01:26:43.000 What I would say is this.

01:26:44.000 Well, I don't know about spying on reporters, but one of the parts on the warrants... On Colin Powell!

01:26:50.000 We're going to need internal coverage here.

01:26:52.000 Now that doesn't mean we should be looking at U.S.

01:26:54.000 citizens for political reasons.

01:26:56.000 That's unacceptable to look at U.S.

01:27:00.000 citizens who are just innocent citizens because we all value those rights.

01:27:05.000 But I think that the President recognizes that there is a significant threat that exists within an open society and we are vulnerable internally.

01:27:14.000 We have to make sure though that the President needs to reach across the aisle.

01:27:17.000 We need to get consensus here, bipartisan consensus, on how we're going to tackle this thing in the United States.

01:27:23.000 Okay, Mr. Burns, I know you've got to leave us here in a moment.

01:27:25.000 If you can stay a few minutes, that's fine.

01:27:26.000 We've got a break again.

01:27:27.000 If you've got to go, I understand.

01:27:29.000 But the thing here is, is that Bush says arrest anybody with connections to Al-Qaeda, but FBI agent Robert Wright got up with the impeachment lawyer and David Shippers and said that he was told, you'll be arrested If you talk about what you know, I'd already interviewed them before they were told they'd be arrested, and that was in the months before 9-11.

01:27:48.000 They were told, back off these people or we're going to arrest you, buddy.

01:27:51.000 Now, why is that?

01:27:54.000 I can't answer that question.

01:27:56.000 I can send you the C-SPAN video.

01:27:58.000 I don't think Robert Wright and David Chippers are lying.

01:28:00.000 No, I can't answer that question.

01:28:03.000 Well, the best you can say is because it's connected to Bush's Saudi friends, he blocked it, but I think it's even worse.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, I do believe, though, that the President's intentions on this are not to create a state of siege here in the United States against the public.

01:28:18.000 He's trying to defend us against attacks internally, but you've got to be very careful when you're doing this domestically, and you need to have bipartisan support is my recommendation.

01:28:28.000 I hear you, Mr. Bernson.

01:28:30.000 Do you need to leave us?

01:28:31.000 No, I don't.

01:28:32.000 I can stay a bit more.

01:28:33.000 Okay.

01:28:34.000 Well, just a three-minute break.

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01:32:03.000 We don't screen phone calls on this show, so callers call in on a hundred different issues, and we've got the lines always, of course, are loaded.

01:32:11.000 My But do this, Scott, go through the calls and see who specifically wants to talk to our guests, because I can go to the other people who want to talk about other stuff, whatever issue, that's fine.

01:32:23.000 I just, we don't have a lot of time with our guests, about 15 minutes or so less left, so just go find out Maybe just take the first five.

01:32:31.000 Who are the first five wants to talk to the guests out of Canyon and Debbie and Jim and Mike and John and others and find out who has a question for them so we can take calls here in just a few minutes.

01:32:40.000 But I talked to our guest during the break, and I said, what is some of the things you want to talk about?

01:32:47.000 And he is this CIA warrior.

01:32:50.000 That's how he's described by Newsweek with the headline, Exclusive CIA Commander, U.S. Lawyer.

01:33:00.000 Let Bin Laden Slip Away.

01:33:03.000 And then Capitol Hill Blue has a much stronger headline, CIA Operative Says Bush Military Leaders Let Bin Laden Escape.

01:33:11.000 And we've interviewed, again, David Shippers, FBI agents, and it's all the same thing over and over and over again.

01:33:18.000 And then we have Bush with two different policies.

01:33:20.000 You get Bin Laden, number one priority, then it shifts to, don't worry about Bin Laden. 0.94

01:33:25.000 Well, in his book, Jawbreaker, he gets into that and just a lot of other issues about what happened in Afghanistan.

01:33:31.000 But our guest wanted to talk a little bit about Muslim Americans on average themselves.

01:33:36.000 So please go ahead, sir.

01:33:41.000 Muslim Americans stepped up big in the fight in Afghanistan.

01:33:46.000 I took four Muslim Americans with me on my team.

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01:33:58.000 They took huge risks on the battlefield, and they made all the difference for us.

01:34:03.000 They really did.

01:34:04.000 I'd like to thank those men, their families, and all other Muslim Americans that are serving in the armed forces.

01:34:11.000 that are serving in the intelligence community and serving in the FBI.

01:34:14.000 There are fine, fine Muslim-Americans that, just like in World War II, when we had Japanese, Italian, and German-Americans stepped up to serve the United States, to fight against fascism, there are a number of Muslim-Americans fighting these radicals.

01:34:29.000 Well, Professor Lino Graglia, we have it on video here in Austin last year, said that he thinks all Muslims should be put in internment camps.

01:34:39.000 That's a disgraceful statement.

01:34:42.000 Well, what about the Michael Savage- I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:34:47.000 You know, Muslim Americans are serving this country nobly.

01:34:51.000 Now, some of their leaders haven't stepped up, but a lot of the Muslim Americans individually are taking huge risks, and we will not win this fight without them. 0.98

01:35:01.000 We need their linguistic abilities, their knowledge of the culture, we need them on the ground, because it's a very, very complex thing that we're working on.

01:35:10.000 You know, right now, this is not just about a battle, you know, a clash of civilizations between Islam and Christianity.

01:35:18.000 This is a clash of civilizations within Islam. 1.00

01:35:21.000 It is a battle between those in the Islamic world that believe that Islam and democracy can coexist together against those that only want an Islamic state, an Islamic dictatorship. 0.75

01:35:33.000 And we saw what an Islamic dictatorship looks like in the form of the Taliban. 0.90

01:35:37.000 It was horrific what they did.

01:35:41.000 Now, I'm trying to understand this, though.

01:35:44.000 People like Michael Savage, I don't know if you've heard his show, his real name is Michael Weiner, he says that people that disagree with the war should, quote, be put in forced labor camps because we're aiding Al Qaeda.

01:35:57.000 And, you know, we hear this drum being beaten that if you're not for everything this administration wants to do, that you're un-American and unpatriotic.

01:36:05.000 I mean, what's your take on that?

01:36:07.000 I don't believe that.

01:36:08.000 I believe that in our society we value the opinions of everyone here.

01:36:12.000 That doesn't mean that we have to agree with you, or agree with an opposing opinion, but the fact is, you know, we went, and those of us that serve in the CIA, take an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

01:36:25.000 That includes all of our basic rights, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, you know, all of that.

01:36:31.000 Now, you're a specialist on the Middle East and then on Central Asia, correct?

01:36:36.000 And that's your main focus and study?

01:36:38.000 Yes, my main focus in my career was that part of the world, yes sir.

01:36:41.000 Well, I want to tell you a quick story and then I want to take some calls.

01:36:44.000 I was sitting in a Home Depot parking lot about two years ago and I'd read about Mozadek, I'd read about the CIA overthrow there for BP, British Petroleum,

01:36:55.000 But I couldn't believe it when I heard Kermit Roosevelt, and I've had John Lopez talk about this as well, FBI counter-terrorism, you may know him in New York there, and he concurred and said it was disgraceful, but here is, on the radio, dead now, it was some interview from the 80s, saying that the CIA went in,

01:37:18.000 He bragged with nine guys and a bunch of money, and hired people to carry out bombings and shootings all over the country, and they printed up handbills saying, Mozadek did it, up with communism, and then our government removed him and put the shaw in. 0.85

01:37:32.000 Now that's public record, so we see stuff like that.

01:37:36.000 And so now I guess we have the Iranian regime to, we can thank again our government for helping to cause a chain of events that did that. 0.98

01:37:44.000 Number one, are you aware of all that?

01:37:46.000 Number two, what's your take on it?

01:37:47.000 In the early years, in the early years, and this was before the Church and the Pike Commissions, in the 50s, you know, the late 40s and the 50s, the agency did things that would not be acceptable by our terms today.

01:38:01.000 We're a different nation now.

01:38:02.000 The CIA is very, very different.

01:38:05.000 I can tell you that the CIA is very, very risk averse and no one will do anything without having the lawyers sign off on everything these days.

01:38:12.000 That's the challenge now.

01:38:13.000 Well, why would Kermit Roosevelt just go on the radio and just talk about it like he was talking about a basketball game or something?

01:38:23.000 He wrote about a famous... the book he wrote was called Countercoup years ago and those were his efforts to overthrow Mosaddegh and I'm aware of that.

01:38:33.000 And much of what went on during that period of time.

01:38:38.000 And I can say to you, though, now that, you know, the CIA matured over the years, that we are all very, very mindful of the law.

01:38:46.000 We are mindful of the basic rights of folks.

01:38:49.000 And I've got to tell you, you know, there's a lot of talk about, you know, CIA torturing people.

01:38:53.000 I can tell you, people have lawyers there.

01:38:56.000 No one's going to do anything with everything signed off and the Attorney General is going to sign off.

01:39:00.000 You know, people are very, very careful.

01:39:02.000 But Alberto Gonzales... It's not accurate.

01:39:06.000 But Alberto Gonzales said when he was White House Counsel in memos to the Pentagon that if they just don't call it torture, that if somebody dies and they didn't mean to kill them under pressure, then it's not torture.

01:39:17.000 So aren't they just changing the name?

01:39:20.000 Well, I can say this.

01:39:22.000 When I was on the ground there, we did not use coercive or non-coercive methods.

01:39:26.000 We interviewed people.

01:39:28.000 When I was there, we asked people in large groups, if anyone, you know, one by one, you may have saw that Mike Span lost his life doing this in a prison up in Mazar-e-Sharif, and eventually people came forward and volunteered information that stopped the follow-on attacks in Singapore.

01:39:42.000 There was going to be 21 tons of explosives used against four embassies.

01:39:45.000 Yeah, what about the story, what about the story where early on in the war they had the containers full of the Taliban and they just let them die in the containers and then lined them up and mowed them down?

01:39:56.000 The Afghans had done this. 1.00

01:39:58.000 The Taliban had done this to the Northern Allies.

01:40:00.000 That's what they always do to each other.

01:40:02.000 These guys had done been doing this stuff to each other.

01:40:04.000 No Americans were aware of this.

01:40:06.000 You have to remember, there was a small number of Americans, you know, not more than, you know, possibly 400 of us in country at the top end of this during the war, covering an area the size of Texas and California together.

01:40:17.000 How many U.S.

01:40:18.000 troops generally?

01:40:19.000 How many U.S.

01:40:20.000 troops total?

01:40:21.000 350 Special Forces and 100 Roughly 100 CIA officers for that war.

01:40:27.000 That was it against 50 to 60,000 members of the Taliban and 5 to 7,000 of Al-Qaeda.

01:40:34.000 So that's all Bush put into the entire Afghan... I'm talking about the Afghan war itself.

01:40:41.000 You're saying that was it?

01:40:42.000 That was the initial phase.

01:40:44.000 Eventually more troops would come in.

01:40:46.000 Later, and you know, would be involved down in Iraq.

01:40:49.000 But if that's the number one threat, why put 200,000 or 170,000 in Iraq and send a couple hundred to Afghanistan? 0.87

01:40:56.000 That's insane!

01:40:56.000 Well, the thing in Afghanistan was brilliant, I will say, because many, many other people had lost there with large numbers of forces and had all sorts of problems.

01:41:04.000 So it was more of an intelligence operation?

01:41:06.000 It was a massive operation.

01:41:07.000 The small numbers in an intelligence-driven war was masterful.

01:41:11.000 The only shortcoming came in Tora Bora when we had requested The introduction of U.S.

01:41:15.000 forces at that one place and time, and they just couldn't get over it, they just couldn't do it.

01:41:20.000 And you were absolutely sure Bin Laden was there?

01:41:23.000 Yes.

01:41:24.000 And how did you ascertain that?

01:41:26.000 Well, we had human sources that tracked him down there.

01:41:28.000 I would have never sent eight men into an incredibly dangerous province, and then four men up into a mountain over a thousand, and if Bin Laden had not been there... Well, sir, I appreciate... 0.99

01:41:40.000 We picked up a radio wolf of a dead member of Al-Qaeda, and I had CIA's number one Arabic linguist with me, who had listened to bin Laden's voice for the previous four years, who confirmed that it was bin Laden.

01:41:51.000 Well, Mr. Bernson, I appreciate you letting me interrogate you.

01:41:53.000 I just want to take one or two calls here.

01:41:55.000 That's fine.

01:41:56.000 But my final question for you is just concerning bin Laden in the future.

01:42:04.000 Do you think they're ever going to capture Mr. bin Laden? 0.71

01:42:08.000 I think that, you know, there's an effort politically to sort of just minimize, you know, his importance now, but he is incredibly important, remains important, and there are significant efforts underway to try to finish this.

01:42:20.000 Porter Goss, the new director of CIA, is a good man.

01:42:23.000 He had three tours as an OPSO officer many, many years ago.

01:42:27.000 He is making significant efforts on this.

01:42:30.000 I have faith that he is pressing forward on this.

01:42:34.000 Okay, now out of all these callers, who should I go to first that's for our guest?

01:42:38.000 Alright, I'm going to go quickly callers.

01:42:40.000 Debbie in Florida, you're on the air with our guest.

01:42:43.000 Go ahead.

01:42:43.000 Yes, I'd like to know, is Bin Laden the most important person or who else should we be going after besides him?

01:42:51.000 Well of course, you know Zarqawi in Iraq is an important individual.

01:42:55.000 How many times has he been killed?

01:42:56.000 You know, Zarqawi, here he is important.

01:43:01.000 We've had a lot of success capturing a number of his operational lieutenants.

01:43:05.000 Abu Zubaydah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Mohammed Attaf was killed with an airstrike.

01:43:09.000 You know, his operational folks have been captured, have been killed.

01:43:15.000 So, you know, this is probably one of the reasons we haven't had an attack in the United States, is that the Bush administration has continued the pressure on these guys.

01:43:22.000 And that's the lie.

01:43:23.000 We're fighting them over there instead of over here.

01:43:27.000 And that's what is being done.

01:43:29.000 Yeah.

01:43:30.000 Thank you for the call, Debbie.

01:43:31.000 Let's talk to John in New York, and then Earl, and then I'm going to let our guest go.

01:43:34.000 John in New York, go ahead.

01:43:36.000 Hi, thank you for taking my call.

01:43:37.000 I just read a book recently and heard a report by, the book was The Elimination of the Elite by, I think, Colonel Martin.

01:43:44.000 And he says that in the CIA, it's common knowledge in the 60s that the JFK assassination was done by the CIA.

01:43:50.000 And also, if you listen to the shortwave at all, just the other night on John Stattmiller, they had 150 major reasons why 9-11 was an inside job.

01:43:59.000 Yeah, we covered that a week ago on the show.

01:44:01.000 That was the WebFerry article.

01:44:03.000 I'm two years old when JFK died, so I have no idea.

01:44:09.000 John, go ahead and say whatever else you have to say.

01:44:12.000 Well, it's a situation of who's attacking us, and it's like weather modification.

01:44:17.000 There's 300 weather modifications patents.

01:44:19.000 We had 150 tornadoes in one day.

01:44:21.000 Is it normal?

01:44:22.000 It's way out of normal.

01:44:23.000 The Katrina hurricane is way out of normal.

01:44:28.000 John, I'll say this.

01:44:33.000 I interviewed Ben Livingston, who is the father of weather warfare, and has the letters and the photos with him, you know, with LBJ commending him for his secret weather program, and just with seeding, they were able to flood the Vietnamese communist. 0.87

01:44:48.000 Yes sir.

01:44:48.000 And it's patented and proven, and they could, quote, "stop those hurricanes," but the weather seeding program has been killed, and so that's interesting.

01:44:56.000 Thanks for the call.

01:44:58.000 Thank you.

01:44:58.000 Let's go to Earl in Florida.

01:45:00.000 Earl, go ahead.

01:45:01.000 You're on the air.

01:45:02.000 Yes, sir.

01:45:03.000 I would like to know exactly how many sales do you feel that are here located in the United States, and when do you think these groups will actually affect and put those groups Yeah, are there active Al-Qaeda, I mean Al-Qaeda cells, Mr. Bernstein, here in the United States?

01:45:25.000 Are they going to get us any minute if we don't give all our rights up?

01:45:28.000 You have to assume that Al-Qaeda will be attempting to put people into this country.

01:45:33.000 You have to assume that Al-Qaeda will be trying to infiltrate people all around the world to act against our efforts.

01:45:38.000 We need to continue to put pressure on this We are living in an age when small groups of people can leverage technology for catastrophic efforts.

01:45:47.000 We don't need to sacrifice all of our rights, but we need to continue to build a clandestine service that is robust and healthy and aggressive.

01:45:57.000 Well, I know this.

01:45:58.000 The Cold War was a big boon for companies and the economy, and now since that's kind of gone by the board, there's this new Islamist threat. 1.00

01:46:07.000 It's under every bed and every closet and every well.

01:46:11.000 It's just creeping around in the woods.

01:46:13.000 I guess it can never be defeated.

01:46:15.000 And it just goes on and on.

01:46:16.000 All I know is, sir, we have Viper teams from the TSA.

01:46:21.000 They're going to turn our malls, our banks, and our highways into something like the airport where you get groped.

01:46:26.000 And that's not America, and it's not going to keep us safe either.

01:46:29.000 Yeah, I think that we need to use human intelligence smartly.

01:46:33.000 And we had a problem in the 1990s where we diminished our intelligence service, our case officers, by 25%.

01:46:39.000 You know, there have been efforts to improve that.

01:46:42.000 You know, there's offense and there's defense.

01:46:44.000 When you talk about defense, like you said, all these security teams here.

01:46:48.000 We need to be on the offense.

01:46:49.000 We need to be on the offense against them where they're organizing themselves overseas. 0.97

01:46:52.000 We need to be mindful of what's going on in the United States.

01:46:55.000 But this is what I'm trying to say.

01:46:56.000 This is what I'm trying to say.

01:46:57.000 And I'll let you go here in a minute, sir.

01:46:58.000 I know you're busy. 0.77

01:46:59.000 Let's say that we're sitting here and there's an al-Qaeda terrorist boogeyman with a big tail and a forked tail running around bumming at the mouth.

01:47:09.000 And we don't know where he is, so we're just going to randomly federalize local police and have them run around in black Darth Vader gear.

01:47:16.000 That's what they do in Miami and Dallas now.

01:47:19.000 And we're just going to randomly shake down families and demand to see their IDs.

01:47:22.000 I mean, come on!

01:47:24.000 No, I don't believe that.

01:47:26.000 I don't think that is what human intelligence does when you're conducting human operations.

01:47:30.000 That's what I'm saying, though.

01:47:31.000 That's what the federal government's doing.

01:47:34.000 I'm sure you've heard about that.

01:47:36.000 Well, of course it's not going to.

01:47:37.000 Okay, well then give us your take on that.

01:47:39.000 Well, the fact is, as I've stated, you need to do human intelligence operations, training a large number of people that will make contact with different people, whether they're in the Middle East or here, and you establish human reporting sources.

01:47:53.000 You do it in a professional and a consistent manner.

01:47:56.000 You have the program well funded.

01:47:58.000 You answer to Congress.

01:48:01.000 And you don't take us apart again.

01:48:03.000 The agency has been dismantled on several occasions.

01:48:06.000 Human intelligence has been dismantled on at least two occasions in the last 25 years.

01:48:10.000 But isn't the CIA one of the smallest agencies out there?

01:48:13.000 The range of operations is very small.

01:48:16.000 You are exactly right.

01:48:19.000 So what about the other 15 agencies?

01:48:23.000 They don't do human intelligence.

01:48:25.000 Not like CIA does.

01:48:27.000 They do technical.

01:48:28.000 They do overhead.

01:48:29.000 They do intercept.

01:48:31.000 What we need here is intentions.

01:48:33.000 The plans and intentions are not picked up by satellites.

01:48:36.000 You need humans in contact.

01:48:38.000 And the clandestine service is that arm of the United States that goes out and collects that type of information.

01:48:44.000 What's that called?

01:48:44.000 Human?

01:48:46.000 Human.

01:48:47.000 Human intelligence.

01:48:48.000 Yeah, well, here's the problem.

01:48:51.000 There's not Al-Qaeda under every bush.

01:48:53.000 These guys are going to need something to do, and I see the government, and I've had Homeland Security local groups on, and they're being taught all threats, that crime is terror, and so... Yeah, I know.

01:49:04.000 And oh, well, I've been... That doesn't make any sense.

01:49:06.000 I'm with you.

01:49:07.000 I'm with you.

01:49:07.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:49:09.000 And that's not a practical application.

01:49:12.000 I'm going to be writing a book on counter-terrorism policy shortly.

01:49:15.000 And I'm going to try to lay out some of this, and address exactly some of the complaints that you have, and how we need to do this in a more efficient, effective, and less disruptive fashion.

01:49:26.000 Alright, the book is Jawbreaker, and it's in books, bookstores now, or at Amazon.com and all those places, and it's Gary Bernsten.

01:49:34.000 We really appreciate you coming on with us today, sir.

01:49:37.000 It's been a pleasure being with you, Alex.

01:49:39.000 You bet.

01:49:40.000 Take care, and I hope to get you back on in the future when your new book comes out, but the latest one is Jawbreaker.

01:49:46.000 Take care.

01:49:47.000 We'll be right back, folks, with your calls in a ton of minutes.

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01:53:39.000 Canyon first, before this hour ends.

01:53:42.000 Obviously, a lot of that was Deception.

01:53:47.000 The guy's sitting there with a smile.

01:53:48.000 You know, he couldn't deny a lot of it.

01:53:49.000 He couldn't deny that, uh, that the number, really number two, the news said number three, but he was right. 0.94

01:53:55.000 He corrected me.

01:53:55.000 Number two at CIA, Buzzy Krongaard, said that they didn't want bin Laden because he's a good boogeyman.

01:54:01.000 I mean, they openly brag about this.

01:54:03.000 And he didn't deny that our government carried out terror attacks. 0.54

01:54:06.000 And folks, there's almost 200 cases, I've been chronicling them for a film I'm working on, where they admit it.

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01:54:14.000 You're having trouble believing they do this, and that Bin Laden's controlled by them, and it's so easy to have one group of CIA wondering why they can't go after somebody else, and then just fooling themselves of what the other intentions are.

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01:54:37.000 And then in closing, but we appreciate him coming on, he made a lot of other admissions too about how it's ridiculous to have these Viper teams and how it's to suppress the American people, but he still loves George Bush.

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01:55:59.000 Canyon in Texas, thanks for holding.

01:56:01.000 Go ahead.

01:56:03.000 I've been listening to you for about six or seven years now.

01:56:07.000 I started listening to you on KJFK.

01:56:09.000 I have a few topics I'd like to talk about.

01:56:11.000 I'll try to get to them all real quick here.

01:56:14.000 I've seen a virtually infinite number of ideas here.

01:56:17.000 Everyone seems to have their own opinion, and I wonder.

01:56:20.000 I personally believe in Jesus Christ and consider him my Savior, but with all the people who consider themselves Christians who say that if you don't believe exactly the way they do you can pretty well go to hell and you're going to hell what is one to believe on what i was just getting started as a believer i would ashamed for being so different than everyone else as far as well

01:56:44.000 you got a bunch of religionists who just want to beat you over the head and tell you they've got the specific perfect little way But that's not what Christ did.

01:56:53.000 That's not what he was out there saying.

01:56:54.000 That's not what he was about being a Pharisee.

01:56:57.000 So they're just modern Pharisees.

01:57:00.000 And just because Pat Robertson is a bloodthirsty, microchip-promoting globalist doesn't mean that Christians are bad.

01:57:07.000 So I'm trying to get what you're saying.

01:57:10.000 Yeah, that's what I was meaning.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Alright, we're into hour number three.

01:58:12.000 One of our little resident researchers who pops by on a routine basis is Kevin Smith.

01:58:17.000 And since I've been talking about Dying Core, he remembered when I was on the TV show four or five years ago, covering Soldier of Fortune news articles.

01:58:25.000 They were really one of the only mainstream media sources, if you can call them that, to pick up on the news inside the U.S.

01:58:31.000 of Dying Corps systematically kidnapping women and children by the hundreds of thousands.

01:58:36.000 And now we have the governor of Illinois going public.

01:58:39.000 We have major newspapers writing about it, saying, where are the kids?

01:58:42.000 What's going on?

01:58:43.000 I mean, this is a big deal, folks.

01:58:46.000 We'll have a national manhunt for one child, but it's just, ah, well, the government's doing it, leaving hundreds of thousands, no big deal.

01:58:53.000 We should trust the government and take our freedoms.

01:58:55.000 So that's coming up in about 30 minutes.

01:58:57.000 I want to take your calls, get into a bunch of other news.

01:59:00.000 But right now, let's go back to Canyon in Texas.

01:59:02.000 Canyon, you were bringing up, I don't know, saying you believe in Jesus, you're a Christian, but then you see other Christians beating you over the head with their particular sex views. 0.67

01:59:15.000 And the reason you have all these sex is because somebody wants to be a leader, and so they break off to go create generally. 0.69

01:59:22.000 It's not always, sometimes it's for the best, but they go break off so they can be their own leader, and then that grows, and somebody else wants to break off with their own group, and so you've got a break of a break of a break of a break of a break.

01:59:34.000 Instead of just being Bible-believing. 0.94

01:59:36.000 And again, now this will turn into some big debate, which I don't want to do.

01:59:39.000 That's why I just covered the news.

01:59:41.000 But I'm trying to get at what you're saying.

01:59:44.000 Yes, that's right.

01:59:44.000 It's truly sickening that all these people want to just create their own groups and then they come up with all these false doctrines.

01:59:51.000 So I've started thinking that maybe the thing I need to do is simply research exactly what Jesus said and believe in that.

01:59:58.000 Well, that's what Christ said.

02:00:00.000 He said, don't listen to all those religious experts up on the hill telling you how good they are and how you're bad.

02:00:05.000 I mean, so many people come up to me and say, I'm a Christian.

02:00:08.000 Okay, well, good.

02:00:09.000 Well, are you?

02:00:09.000 Well, yes.

02:00:10.000 Well, how do I know you are?

02:00:12.000 Well, just listen.

02:00:13.000 I'm not going to get into some kind of weird... You've got to judge a tree by its fruits.

02:00:18.000 And, you know, take the 700 Club.

02:00:20.000 They do so many good things.

02:00:22.000 They have so many nice stories.

02:00:25.000 Still, he tells you that biometrics is good, and taking a microchip isn't bad, and Bush is good, and the war on terror is good, and the government's good, and now, 700 Club 10 years ago was totally different.

02:00:38.000 Now you watch it and say, oh, look at this family.

02:00:41.000 They believed in God, so they won the million dollars on the game show.

02:00:47.000 Pray to God and you'll find a pot of gold.

02:00:48.000 Well, God isn't a leprechaun.

02:00:52.000 Or a slot machine.

02:00:55.000 I just don't know what to say.

02:00:57.000 It's like a bunch of voodoo now. 0.99

02:01:00.000 Right on, yeah.

02:01:01.000 I'd like to talk about education and psychotropic drugs.

02:01:04.000 Sure, go ahead.

02:01:05.000 You've got about a minute.

02:01:06.000 Alright.

02:01:07.000 Let's see.

02:01:08.000 I am legally blind and throughout my education, I guess for about two and a half to three years, I was sitting in a room listening to some cartoon with no real educational value, of course.

02:01:19.000 And then in one case, the principal banned me from using a Braille writer.

02:01:26.000 What I used to actually write things down.

02:01:28.000 So there's some gaps in my education.

02:01:30.000 And I'm just wondering what I might do about that.

02:01:33.000 I want to be a programmer, but with my math skills not being so good, it just gets in the way.

02:01:42.000 And I've always considered you a hero, so I wonder Well, I mean, I'm not good at math or complex algorithms, so I'm not going to go try to be a computer programmer.

02:01:54.000 There are so many things you can do, and I would go with what you have a passion for, and I honor you for trying to work and trying to have a job if you're blind. 0.68

02:02:05.000 Or visually impaired.

02:02:07.000 And so, I mean, I don't think I can really give you advice on what you're doing, but I think that, you know, try being an artist.

02:02:17.000 Say, yeah, a blind artist. 0.80

02:02:18.000 This is what my mind sees, and this is what I'm painting on the canvas, and I don't know what it looks like, but I think if you go out and get a few news articles written about you, you'll start making about a million dollars a year.

02:02:27.000 There, there's an idea for you.

02:02:29.000 Watercolors.

02:02:30.000 A blind man doing watercolors. 0.89

02:02:31.000 I think I'd buy one.

02:02:33.000 Alright, cool.

02:02:34.000 Thank you.

02:02:34.000 You bet.

02:02:35.000 Take care.

02:02:35.000 I mean, you never know what it is you have to do or what your calling is.

02:02:39.000 Maybe your calling is to go preach to people on the side of the street.

02:02:42.000 You know, who knows?

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02:07:02.000 That's what folks tune in for though.

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02:07:30.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike.

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02:07:35.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike.

02:07:40.000 And Mike, where are you calling us from today?

02:07:42.000 I'll probably see you maybe like two hours.

02:07:46.000 He's having a conversation here.

02:07:48.000 Let's just put him back on hold.

02:07:50.000 Oh man.

02:07:51.000 What happens is they get to listening on the internet, which is like a minute or two minute delay sometimes, or on a station with a delay.

02:07:59.000 We'll go back to Mike in a minute.

02:08:01.000 Let's talk to Walt in Michigan.

02:08:03.000 Walt, you're on the air.

02:08:04.000 Go ahead.

02:08:05.000 Hi, Alex.

02:08:06.000 How are you doing?

02:08:07.000 Good.

02:08:07.000 Listen, I wanted to bring a subject up and I think it needs to be addressed because Darryl Everhart's been calling in and talking to you about the Catholic Church, and I think it would be an excellent, in their part, in this New World Order.

02:08:21.000 And I think it ought to be discussed openly, because really they are the biggest player on the block.

02:08:26.000 They've got one of the largest intelligence-gathering organizations in the world.

02:08:30.000 They've got their people in government everywhere.

02:08:32.000 And I'm not talking about the average Catholic now.

02:08:34.000 I'm talking about Political leaders and people that are in positions of power.

02:08:38.000 Well, you know, people have called before.

02:08:40.000 I think you've called before.

02:08:41.000 There is a caller named Daryl who calls about it sometimes at the show and other shows.

02:08:45.000 And you can talk right now.

02:08:48.000 I'll tell you what, Alex.

02:08:50.000 I've been learning about this for about the last four months or so.

02:08:53.000 And I've picked up quite a bit and a lot of bits and pieces that I haven't had for the last 25 years.

02:08:58.000 Well, you know, sir, I never get on air and say that I think the program's run by Jews.

02:09:04.000 No, no, no, Alex.

02:09:06.000 Or that it's run all by Catholics, or that it's run all by... I mean, it's run by a secret society that is in control of most major organizations, and obviously it's in control of the Catholic Church, with Ratzinger running around, now Benedict, First of all, one question I want to ask you first.

02:09:24.000 running around telling us a new world order is good.

02:09:27.000 So, I mean, I don't need to...

02:09:28.000 Obviously, it's no secret.

02:09:30.000 Well, there's something...

02:09:31.000 Most people, and I didn't know just how big a part that they played in all this and what they really believed...

02:09:37.000 See, I disagree with...

02:09:38.000 I've actually read a lot of those books and looked at it.

02:09:40.000 I disagree.

02:09:41.000 I think their power has lessened, actually.

02:09:43.000 I think it's...

02:09:44.000 Can I say something?

02:09:45.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:09:46.000 Go ahead.

02:09:47.000 First of all, one question I want to ask you first.

02:09:50.000 What was Adam Weissop?

02:09:51.000 What did he do?

02:09:52.000 He was a Jesuit professor at Ingolstadt University.

02:09:56.000 That's right, he taught Catholic Church Canon Law.

02:10:00.000 He was still working for the Catholic Church and started the Illuminati.

02:10:04.000 Now if the Catholic Church is not the primary player in the block, how come all the people that were involved in Washington D.C., including the landowners that donated the land that the White House sits on, including the guy named Pope, who owned the land where Washington D.C.

02:10:19.000 itself sits, His name, you know, he was also Roman Catholic.

02:10:23.000 The Carroll family were the ones that were primarily involved in financing and setting up Washington, D.C., including the guy that did all the paintings and the architecture.

02:10:35.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:10:38.000 Are you saying Jack Stoney in America was bad?

02:10:41.000 Are you saying that the America of George Washington was bad secrets?

02:10:46.000 No, I'm saying that there are people behind the scenes who are maneuvering and manipulating this country back under Roman rule. 0.95

02:10:53.000 Because first of all, the King of England was a Protestant, and the colonies were Protestant.

02:10:58.000 And the Roman Catholic Church has been after, the Pope of Rome has been after to control the United States. 0.59

02:11:03.000 Now you're going to tell me Henry VIII is good?

02:11:06.000 Who?

02:11:07.000 Now you're going to tell me Henry VIII is good now?

02:11:10.000 I didn't say he was good.

02:11:12.000 And that's not what I'm implying.

02:11:14.000 What I'm saying as far as the power structure is concerned, the power struggle is concerned, the Pope of Rome has been after for 1,500 years.

02:11:22.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:11:24.000 What is one of the largest Murdering organizations in the world in the last 1,500 years that still exist in 1940 was responsible for 600,000 to 1,000,000 Serbian Christians and Croatians.

02:11:38.000 You're going to say the Jesuits.

02:11:41.000 Jesuits were only part of it. 0.65

02:11:43.000 You had Franciscan friars, you had monks, you ran the armies.

02:11:46.000 As a matter of fact, a guy named Averill Manhattan wrote a book about it.

02:11:51.000 Hold on a second.

02:11:52.000 I said I was going to go to calls quickly.

02:11:53.000 Do you realize that if I... You've been going for four minutes.

02:11:56.000 Do you realize that if I... Actually, five.

02:11:59.000 Do you know if I let you keep going, they won't get to talk?

02:12:02.000 Well, okay, I'm sorry, but get Daryl Everhart on your show, if you would please, and have him.

02:12:06.000 He has a lot more information than I do, but I think he'd be an excellent subject to cover.

02:12:12.000 I just have to be honest with you, and I appreciate the call, that I don't know about Daryl's information, but a lot of what I hear about the Catholics, I happen to have a pretty big grasp, somewhat, of history, and just some of it's not true.

02:12:31.000 And it's the same thing with saying Jews run everything.

02:12:35.000 Well, I mean, is there a criminal sect, which is actually anti-Jew, that is in control of dominant Judaism? 0.95

02:12:45.000 Yes.

02:12:45.000 Are there a bunch of Jewish groups decrying it?

02:12:47.000 Yes.

02:12:48.000 You know, any time, I think any time, you know, you say, the Jews are one monolithic thing, or the Catholics are one monolithic thing, or the Protestants are one monolithic thing, I think you really lose the big picture.

02:12:59.000 And the globalists love that! 0.97

02:13:02.000 But if we can all agree that, hey, it's bad for Ratzinger, Benedict, to be saying we need a one world government and a new world order, I mean, that's ridiculous and horrible, and I'm saying it's bad. 0.89

02:13:13.000 Look, we have a world government, it's in our face, let's fight it!

02:13:16.000 Instead of just perseverating and obsessing on how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, on who is running it.

02:13:25.000 Let me tell you who's got the money.

02:13:27.000 Okay, let me tell you who's got the money.

02:13:30.000 It is the Rothschilds. 0.85

02:13:31.000 They've got three hundred trillion dollars that's been in major Russian newspapers.

02:13:35.000 That's their aggregate holdings.

02:13:37.000 I mean, three hundred trillion, folks.

02:13:40.000 But they tell you Bill Gates is the richest man in the world.

02:13:43.000 The Catholic Church has had great lands.

02:13:45.000 The Catholic Church has done a lot of corrupt things. 0.97

02:13:46.000 The Catholic Church did control empires through the rudders, that is, the maps that told them where to go in the oceans. 0.90

02:13:54.000 I mean, the Catholic Church, you've got one branch down in Latin America saying, take over America, and La Reconquista, and you've got other branches saying something else, and really I think it's a corrupt, staid, masonically controlled organization.

02:14:11.000 I mean, has the Catholic Church done incredibly corrupt things throughout history?

02:14:14.000 Of course they have.

02:14:15.000 Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely.

02:14:19.000 I mean, is it just a Byzantine structure that's totally worm-eaten? 1.00

02:14:24.000 Yes!

02:14:26.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

02:14:27.000 But do I think that Rome is running everything?

02:14:33.000 I think Rome is involved and part of the same program, clearly.

02:14:38.000 Uh, and so what does it matter when the Illuminati took it over?

02:14:42.000 Or who founded the Illuminati?

02:14:44.000 Number one, the Illuminati was not founded by Adam Weisshaupt.

02:14:46.000 You know, we say the modern incarnation of it...

02:14:50.000 in 1775 and really got funding in 1776.

02:14:53.000 Well, it's well known the Rothschilds actually funded him.

02:14:56.000 Most of the colleges were Catholic and he was working to overthrow religion, at least in the Illuminati documents they captured.

02:15:04.000 They were actually working to overthrow the Protestantism and Catholicism and to overthrow all the monarchs. 0.86

02:15:12.000 But then later it came out that other monarchs were actually funding it to overthrow their cousins.

02:15:18.000 And so it's more sophisticated in all of this cloak and dagger.

02:15:22.000 We know, though, the cloak and dagger is going on.

02:15:24.000 We know the agenda.

02:15:26.000 And see, when you go and you say it's the Catholics, or you go and you say it's the Jews, or you go and you say it's the Protestants, you automatically neutralize the people that are listening who are in those groups.

02:15:38.000 And then it's false information, I believe, to say it's one group.

02:15:43.000 No, it is widespread.

02:15:45.000 It is in every major leadership.

02:15:48.000 And people, I don't want to minimize how bad it is, how widespread it is.

02:15:54.000 I mean, we were talking about this big CIA commander.

02:15:58.000 Last hour, he had to admit that our government really helped found and fund the modern Muslim extremism. 0.91

02:16:06.000 But then he'll put a spin on that.

02:16:07.000 Well, see?

02:16:08.000 The Illuminati is big with the Muslims. 1.00

02:16:10.000 Did you know that?

02:16:11.000 They have whole shrines, whole orders where they worship Allah.

02:16:15.000 Did you know that?

02:16:18.000 I mean, that's on their temple walls.

02:16:20.000 They are masters at being in control of all the major levers.

02:16:26.000 And I really want to go to your calls here.

02:16:28.000 Charles in Texas.

02:16:29.000 Charles, go ahead.

02:16:32.000 What is the significance Of the day, May the 1st.

02:16:37.000 In the cult of... I've heard you talk about it.

02:16:39.000 It is a Luciferian, pagan holiday of human sacrifice. 0.86

02:16:44.000 It's the High Holy Day.

02:16:45.000 And so of course, it's when they have May Day for the Communists. 0.86

02:16:50.000 In China, that was the Chinese Revolution, right? 0.79

02:16:53.000 May Day?

02:16:54.000 No, May Day is just something celebrated by Communist movements.

02:16:59.000 And I know on May 1st, 1786, they brought about the grand constitution of the 33rd degree of masonry, correct?

02:17:06.000 In London, with the King of Prussia?

02:17:08.000 Have you heard that before?

02:17:09.000 Uh, yes.

02:17:12.000 Is it... you think that the masonry controls the Vatican, or is it the other way around?

02:17:18.000 It's... There are technologies of manipulation, secret societies... I know that they paid a lot of homage to the Crusaders, the 9th Templar.

02:17:27.000 Yeah.

02:17:28.000 Let me try to answer your question on the other side.

02:17:30.000 Thanks for the call.

02:17:31.000 I really can't do it in 30 seconds, but I'll come back and try to hurriedly do it.

02:17:36.000 And then we'll... It's a philosophy, folks.

02:17:39.000 It can take the form, it can take the shell of anything.

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02:21:44.000 This is how it works.

02:21:55.000 There's an elite who passed down the technology, the knowledge of propaganda, of manipulation of societies.

02:22:04.000 And it goes back to the pyramids, back to Babylon, back to the first civilizations in technology.

02:22:11.000 And they had secret societies to guard the mathematics of temple building.

02:22:15.000 And that was more valuable than diamonds or rubies.

02:22:17.000 It was the most valuable thing to those societies.

02:22:22.000 So they made secret societies to guard them.

02:22:24.000 So of course they're a cult because they predate Christianity by 2,000 years.

02:22:29.000 Judaism by 1,000.

02:22:30.000 And then those technologies got handed down and those secret societies grew and it's basically whoever seizes control of them and whoever controls those networks And so, from day one, in every organization, they're there infiltrating and working to then take it over.

02:22:50.000 And they always have other powerful friends in other groups, which are all part of the same structure, who will help them get into power.

02:22:56.000 And then they help those guys get into power.

02:22:58.000 And so it's like a secret... Look, it's an intelligence agency.

02:23:01.000 They didn't call them intelligence agencies 500 years ago.

02:23:04.000 They called them secret societies.

02:23:07.000 And a monarchy, whether it was in France, or Italy, or in one of its nation states, or in Corsica, it didn't matter.

02:23:15.000 There would always be a secret society, or an order.

02:23:17.000 The Order of the Garter, the Order of the Shield, the Order of the... Who were these knights who would sneak around killing people, and sneak around doing business deals, and sneak around engaging in subterfuge, or I'm sending my knights to this country to get me information, and make deals, and inquire about... I mean, that's just how it's done!

02:23:36.000 That's just, I mean, it's just intelligence operations.

02:23:38.000 What the government's told you, there's no intelligence operations, there's no secret societies, there's no corruption.

02:23:44.000 And, uh, so to say that it's, it's bad people.

02:23:47.000 We fight corruption.

02:23:48.000 We fight, uh, we fight evil.

02:23:50.000 We fight, uh, centralized organized crime.

02:23:54.000 I mean, really, what are intelligence agencies?

02:23:56.000 They're organized crime.

02:23:56.000 You go, well, what do you mean?

02:23:58.000 Anytime you give somebody secrecy and power, even if it started good, it's going to go bad.

02:24:03.000 And, you know, secrecy, power, corruption, arrogance, it all happens.

02:24:08.000 And that's what these secret societies are.

02:24:11.000 And they're in control of the dominant Protestants. 0.91

02:24:13.000 They're in control of the Catholics. 1.00

02:24:14.000 They're in control of the Jews, predominantly. 1.00

02:24:17.000 They're in control of the black leaders. 1.00

02:24:19.000 They're in control of the Chinese! 1.00

02:24:22.000 And does it mean we're against Chinese, or against Jews, or we're against Germans?

02:24:26.000 And, again, it's part of their plan to get us to obsess on one group.

02:24:30.000 Whereas I can get up here and criticize the corruption of Israel carrying out terror attacks. 0.55

02:24:35.000 It's been in their newspapers. 0.99

02:24:37.000 But I'm not saying it's because Jews are devil creatures and then Jews love my show and are waking up and fighting it. 0.98

02:24:45.000 It's like the whole Republican-Democrat thing. 0.98

02:24:47.000 People hear me criticize Bush, I must be a Democrat.

02:24:50.000 It's the complete opposite.

02:24:52.000 People hear me criticize a Democrat. 0.96

02:24:53.000 Oh, I must be an evil Republican. 0.93

02:24:55.000 No, I'm criticizing evil. 0.51

02:24:57.000 I'm criticizing centralization of power.

02:24:59.000 I'm criticizing the abuse of power.

02:25:03.000 It's just that simple.

02:25:04.000 Let's go ahead and talk to... Oh, who's up next here?

02:25:10.000 Fred in South Dakota.

02:25:11.000 Go ahead, Fred.

02:25:11.000 Hi, Alex.

02:25:13.000 Hi.

02:25:13.000 Yeah, I got a good question here.

02:25:15.000 Something that even Colin Powell and Tommy Franks Even William Westmoreland could figure out.

02:25:22.000 You attack when your enemies are the weakest.

02:25:24.000 They teach them that in school, don't they?

02:25:27.000 These generals?

02:25:29.000 Yeah, that's what Andrew Jackson always said. 0.98

02:25:31.000 Hit them where they're weak. 0.94

02:25:32.000 All right. 0.88

02:25:32.000 Now, this country has had natural disasters. 0.88

02:25:37.000 What about these leaders of this supposed Al-Qaeda organization?

02:25:42.000 They ought to be turning in their generals, Ferris.

02:25:44.000 Well, number one in the art of war is you attack because you can win and because it's good for your overall regime.

02:25:51.000 No Arab on Earth would attack the globalists independently. 0.97

02:25:56.000 Knowing it would bring down the wrath of the Empire. 0.91

02:25:59.000 I mean, it's just pure baloney.

02:26:00.000 See what I mean? 1.00

02:26:02.000 It's all garbage. 0.98

02:26:03.000 And then you look at the actual data, it jives with the common sense, the motive. 0.99

02:26:09.000 That's right.

02:26:09.000 They've revealed themselves in that way.

02:26:11.000 They've not attacked during a natural disaster when the enemy's at its weakest, so therefore they don't exist.

02:26:20.000 Well, it's common sense.

02:26:21.000 There's different strata. 0.89

02:26:22.000 There are real Arabs wearing headbands with big beards, sweating, and beating their wives. 1.00

02:26:28.000 But they're funded by a guy who works for a crime group who's funded by another group that's funded by our government.

02:26:36.000 In every case, we know... I mean, people don't independently go out and blow things up.

02:26:40.000 They're always led.

02:26:41.000 And every time we follow who's leading them, it leads right back to the Mossad, right back to MI6, right back to the CIA.

02:26:48.000 Follow the stratification.

02:26:50.000 That's what you do.

02:26:51.000 It's compartmentalization, you know, strata.

02:26:53.000 The strata is a good way to put it.

02:26:56.000 Well, I thought I'd put that in to see what you thought about it, and that should reveal everything that's going on right now.

02:27:02.000 Well, I mean, you're using common sense.

02:27:04.000 That's very evil.

02:27:05.000 Yes.

02:27:06.000 Yes, they probably track me down now.

02:27:10.000 Well, there's a problem.

02:27:11.000 The people they use to track us down are coming over to our side.

02:27:14.000 We'll see what they do if they step on us.

02:27:16.000 We're like a mushroom.

02:27:19.000 Little spores go everywhere.

02:27:21.000 I think I've heard that before, yes.

02:27:23.000 I have.

02:27:24.000 Alright, I appreciate your call.

02:27:26.000 You bet.

02:27:28.000 Yep, it must be water with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

02:27:36.000 We're on the march.

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02:31:55.000 We'll have to hold off on calls after those two, because, well, we've got Kevin Smith in studio, and Kevin brought by some DynCorp articles from a few years ago.

02:32:08.000 From of all places, Soldier of Fortune, and we've interviewed the Colonel, the head of Special Forces Magazine, Soldier of Fortune, I guess you could call it Mercenary Magazine, and I was also on a national TV show with him that aired on country music television where he talked about it.

02:32:28.000 They come for his guns or with the Patriot Act he's going to have a shooting war with them.

02:32:33.000 So the magazine does do a pretty good job and they were the first mainstream US magazine to talk about this and they talked about it to a key A key group of people, the military that tends, and police for that matter, law enforcement, that tend to read the magazines.

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02:36:24.000 Now, without further ado, in the last month, I was basically threatened to shut up about DynCorp.

02:36:34.000 I haven't been talking about it a lot lately, but I was just told through two different grapevines, military intelligence, they're very angry at you, you better shut up.

02:36:42.000 I mean, from very serious sources, and I take those serious, but I don't care.

02:36:48.000 I mean, it's actually, that means I'm hurting them and I'm only going to increase the attack now.

02:36:52.000 I mean, it's like, Bullies try to intimidate me.

02:36:57.000 I'm not saying I'm even a tough guy. 0.99

02:36:58.000 It's just that I'm like a... well, for lack of a better term, I'm a jackass. 0.98

02:37:03.000 And that's in the Bible. 0.98

02:37:04.000 I'm allowed to use that.

02:37:05.000 I mean, I really am. 0.98

02:37:06.000 I'm like a mean donkey, folks. 0.99

02:37:08.000 It's just that I'm going to bite you. 1.00

02:37:09.000 I'm going to kick you. 1.00

02:37:10.000 You start trying to beat me over the head with something, I'm just going to get even more. 1.00

02:37:14.000 More stubborn. 0.99

02:37:16.000 And so, I mean, it's just, you know, the jackass keeps on coming. 0.99

02:37:19.000 I'm sorry. 0.98

02:37:20.000 Or maybe I'm more like a mule, but even more stubborn.

02:37:24.000 But it means I'm hurting them.

02:37:25.000 It means that the people in the slave camps are that much closer.

02:37:29.000 They'll probably never release them unless we take over the government and then have to invade these countries.

02:37:33.000 Of course, then we wouldn't because it'd be for a real reason.

02:37:36.000 But at least we can cut back on the kidnapping.

02:37:40.000 And the governor has now come out in Illinois, and said it's disgraceful, it's horrible, why isn't the government stopping it?

02:37:49.000 Much less saving the other kids, because it's in the Chicago Tribune, something I didn't even know.

02:37:54.000 DynCorp and Halliburton, they're involved too, had a lobbyist on the Hill openly lobbying to have the Pentagon not enforce the law and let them basically run slave camps on their military bases in the Balkans.

02:38:08.000 From Bosnia and Herzegovina over into Macedonia and then of course all over the Middle East. 0.98

02:38:12.000 So for all the sickos that hate Arabs and want to kill them all, well this is white people in Asia that have been shipped to Asia. 0.99

02:38:20.000 This is white people taken out of Eastern Europe and Central Europe. 0.99

02:38:24.000 I think they're all just as valuable, but those little Christian kids, they're not Al-Qaeda.

02:38:28.000 I know you'll probably say they are and figure out some way to ignore this evil so you don't have to do anything about it.

02:38:34.000 But I've got to say that we wanted to go back and thank Soldier of Fortune.

02:38:38.000 I did have the Colonel on a few years ago to thank him on air and have him talk about it, but Kevin brought these news articles back in, and so without further ado, Kevin, good to have you in here with us.

02:38:50.000 Oh, I would like to say it's a pleasure.

02:38:52.000 Of course, this topic doesn't make it that, but you know, this is something we touched on a few years ago.

02:38:56.000 It's in your videos and so many things coming at you all the time.

02:39:00.000 You know, you kind of tend to move on to the next big story.

02:39:03.000 This is something that needs to stay on the front burner.

02:39:05.000 We can't allow this to slide back.

02:39:08.000 You know, I was looking at a forum the other day, and somebody was critical of Waco, and they said, well, those people were, they were running, they were cooking drugs, and they were running guns, and they were molesting children.

02:39:19.000 And I thought, now, no, that's the government's business, you know?

02:39:22.000 That's not the case at all.

02:39:24.000 And these defenseless, these weak children that can't defend themselves, I mean, it's our job to protect them.

02:39:31.000 And you know, camp followers, prostitution, old business.

02:39:35.000 Old business.

02:39:35.000 You know, you get your company paycheck, you pay for your food at the company store.

02:39:39.000 Yeah, I don't agree with that. 0.93

02:39:40.000 I don't, you know, truck with prostitutes, but you know, that's one thing. 1.00

02:39:43.000 This is totally different.

02:39:44.000 Yeah, and making a choice as an adult is one thing, but when they're defenseless children being kidnapped and You know, not to belittle other people, but you know, healthy white baby, blonde haired, blue eyes, of course there's a premium for that.

02:39:59.000 And it's unfortunately a lot of times it doesn't get our attention.

02:40:02.000 Go ahead and do the Raising Arizona annotation.

02:40:05.000 I got as close as I could.

02:40:06.000 I myself was worth $50,000 in 1962 dollars.

02:40:10.000 You know, we've got to go out there and defend these children.

02:40:12.000 It's bad enough when there's sexual predators out there that are doing this, you know, baby eaters, human veal, I like to call it.

02:40:20.000 Unfortunately, I don't like to, but that's bad enough when it's an individual.

02:40:23.000 But when it's mechanized and it's corporatized, and you know, you know the way corporations work, you can't touch someone in a corporation.

02:40:30.000 The corporation shields them from that.

02:40:33.000 And especially when it's overseas.

02:40:34.000 Well, it's because our government is totally evil.

02:40:36.000 There are laws against all of this, but it's because our government's making money off of it that nothing's going to happen.

02:40:43.000 I mean, we've just got to step up.

02:40:45.000 And you know, this is out there.

02:40:46.000 There's mainstream news touching it.

02:40:47.000 Of course, like you say, they don't say, hey, what happened to these children?

02:40:50.000 But I can remember articles in the past where people were servicing Evergreen 747s, and it's in the night, and 400 children are being marched onto this plane in the middle of the night, and this refueler's like, where are you going with these people?

02:41:02.000 There's three or four Child Protective Services people riding herd, and none of your business.

02:41:07.000 Get back to your business.

02:41:08.000 And he went and checked the manifest, and hey, going to Saudi Arabia nonstop.

02:41:13.000 You know, if you don't think we're being treated like cattle, I mean, look at this.

02:41:16.000 I mean, we are being treated like cattle.

02:41:17.000 Well, that's how it started in Serbia, there in the Balkans, is that DynCorp employees and CIA people and others were just watching planes every day taking off.

02:41:26.000 And they just said, hey, I'm not going to go along with this.

02:41:28.000 And they said, you're fired.

02:41:29.000 They sued and won.

02:41:30.000 And it came out 200,000 children.

02:41:33.000 I mean, that's in one operation.

02:41:35.000 This is, I can't believe there's a market that big that there's that many maggots.

02:41:40.000 Yeah, well that's just one small Eastern European country, you know, and there's an estimated 4 million women and children and small boys that work in this industry, if you can call it an industry.

02:41:50.000 Well, that's all numbers.

02:41:52.000 In 2003 alone, out of Central Europe, 1.1 million women and children were kidnapped.

02:41:56.000 Well, they go into an area that's devastated.

02:41:58.000 I mean, it's ripe for the picking, you know, and they've got the cover.

02:42:01.000 And, you know, hey, after nothing like I like, after a hard day of enforcing U.N.

02:42:05.000 mandates to shack up with my 12-year-old twins, I mean, it's just disgusting. 0.55

02:42:10.000 And we've got some numbers from UNICEF from 2002.

02:42:12.000 And again, these are old numbers.

02:42:14.000 But UNICEF reports that there are 200,000 child prostitutes in Thailand. 0.95

02:42:19.000 Now, that's, you know, a sex destination. 0.91

02:42:21.000 400,000 in India.

02:42:24.000 Get this, between 244,000 and 325,000 in the U.S.

02:42:26.000 alone.

02:42:26.000 In the U.S., good ol' U.S.

02:42:27.000 of A.

02:42:27.000 25,000 in the US alone.

02:42:30.000 In the US, good old US of A. 100,000 in the Philippines, 100 in Taiwan, 100 in Brazil, and 35,000 in West Africa.

02:42:37.000 And we see these numbers, and you made a quote from Stalin about the story of one person being a story, and a big number is just a fact, or it's a statistic.

02:42:47.000 And just try to put yourself and empathize a little bit.

02:42:50.000 Defenseless children, you know, that didn't choose this, been stripped away from their family, and you know, what's going to be the end result of this?

02:42:58.000 Are these people going to see adulthood?

02:43:00.000 You know, if they do, what kind of shape are they going to be in?

02:43:04.000 Well, it's well known that a lot of them, when they get pregnant repeatedly or get old and aren't good anymore, they just kill them.

02:43:11.000 Or they've got something else for them to move into.

02:43:13.000 Well, that's the thing.

02:43:13.000 Most of the people being kidnapped and taken out, a lot of them are being sold and being adopted, and the families just think it's an adoption agency.

02:43:20.000 They don't know they were kidnapped.

02:43:21.000 That's been totally proven.

02:43:23.000 That's one thing.

02:43:24.000 Then most of them are going to literally be chained to a sewing machine. 1.00

02:43:29.000 But then, yeah, if they're going to Israel or Saudi Arabia or Thailand, it is to be raped by pig demons who deserve to be executed. 1.00

02:43:38.000 I know in Israel, they've tried, but there are no laws on the books against this. 0.99

02:43:42.000 This is perfectly legal.

02:43:44.000 Israel, according to the numbers, is number two in the world.

02:43:46.000 Saudi Arabia is number one.

02:43:48.000 And again, we'll look at the per capita.

02:43:51.000 I mean, you know, what kind of size of a country are we talking about?

02:43:53.000 Those are small countries, population-wise.

02:43:56.000 You know, there was a five-year study, and again, this goes back to 2002, and it was conducted by an NGO called In Child Prostitution in Asia, and they compiled data on 160 foreign males who were arrested by police forces in Asian countries.

02:44:09.000 Now remember, there's only 160, so what did these guys do to get arrested?

02:44:13.000 Basically, they probably didn't pay, or they killed the child that didn't allow the pimp to continue to make money, so they were arrested, but they revealed the countries of origin.

02:44:23.000 40 of the abusers were from the USA, 28 from Germany, 22 from Australia, 19 from the UK, 10 from France, Japan, Canada, Switzerland, Sweden.

02:44:31.000 It goes on.

02:44:32.000 The, you know, Western European nations.

02:44:34.000 So, you know, we're looking at abusers from the developed countries going to these undeveloped countries to get You know, again, human veal.

02:44:42.000 And I don't understand, you know, what's the attraction of doing this to some defenseless, undeveloped person?

02:44:50.000 I mean... Well, bottom line, these are human detritus. 0.99

02:44:53.000 These are scrofulous maggots that all need to be executed. 0.99

02:44:57.000 But the bigger point is, why is our government condoning this when it's all illegal? 0.99

02:45:04.000 Why are they giving DynCorp and others these contracts?

02:45:07.000 And it shows That, you know, Nero had all the power and he would kill a little boy almost every morning.

02:45:14.000 And this is in mainstream history books.

02:45:16.000 He would have parties.

02:45:18.000 He would dress up like a werewolf, and he would come bite chunks out of people's necks, and blood would spray everywhere.

02:45:24.000 I'm sorry you don't want to hear this, folks.

02:45:25.000 This is who runs our country.

02:45:26.000 This is what throughout the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Babylonians, to a certain extent the Romans, this is when they really get evil. 0.99

02:45:36.000 The Nazis, the Communists, all of it. 0.94

02:45:39.000 But he would dress up like a wolf, total psychopath, You know, go around doing this. 0.99

02:45:45.000 Finally got so psychopathic he killed himself, thank God.

02:45:49.000 But the bigger question is, why is the average American in such denial?

02:45:54.000 It's like, Alex, I really don't care about those kids.

02:45:56.000 I gotta watch the Rose Bowl tonight.

02:45:58.000 And don't you, Kevin?

02:45:59.000 I'm going to be fighting the New World War while you're watching the Rose Bowl, buddy.

02:46:03.000 Seriously, I'll be on TV tonight up against the Rose Bowl talking about how it's a disgusting gladiatorial diversion.

02:46:08.000 You know, if we had everything fixed in this country, or at least it wasn't this bad, sure, maybe I'd watch the Rose Bowl.

02:46:14.000 I was teasing you.

02:46:15.000 But I know you're going to a Rose Bowl party, I've been invited to it, so I'm not completely teasing you.

02:46:20.000 But no, seriously, this shows How far it's gone, and that they have lobbyists.

02:46:27.000 I mean, this isn't Alex Jones or Kevin Smith.

02:46:30.000 This is the Chicago Tribune saying, yes, it's white slavery lobbyists in D.C., and the Pentagon won't stop it.

02:46:39.000 In fact, guys, I always say on my plays, and I don't, can you find the Cynthia McKinney clip?

02:46:44.000 We'll just play two minutes of it.

02:46:46.000 Three minutes of it.

02:46:48.000 Scott, can you find that?

02:46:49.000 Do you know where that is, Scott?

02:46:52.000 The Cynthia McKinney clip.

02:46:54.000 Rumsfeld grilling, can you find that?

02:46:57.000 Piddly box.

02:46:58.000 I can't hear his response.

02:47:01.000 What?

02:47:02.000 Okay, great.

02:47:03.000 Go ahead, Kevin.

02:47:05.000 You know, Alex, we're not going to be able to cure society of all itsills and the depravity of individuals out there, but we sure shouldn't be rewarding these industrialized syndicates I mean, isn't it enough that DynCorp gets the no-bid, sole-source contracts for vaccinations?

02:47:21.000 Isn't it enough that they get probably close to a billion dollars a year to spray defoliants all over, you know, northern, the northern part of South America, Colombia, Ecuador, which they're being sued for right now.

02:47:32.000 I mean, isn't, isn't it enough that they have all these private security contracts?

02:47:37.000 I mean, when is enough enough?

02:47:39.000 Well, that's the thing.

02:47:40.000 I mean, if it's this evil now, out in the open, when lobbyists for white slavery openly, then what is it going to be in five years?

02:47:47.000 Maybe they will, like, the police will scoop us up in nets, and it'll say, American beef, or, you know, long ham, and it'll be human in the grocery stores.

02:47:58.000 And, you know, I mean that sarcastically, but that's the only thing that could be worse at the next level.

02:48:04.000 Just, I mean, this shows you who the government is.

02:48:08.000 Again, everybody should be like the governor of Illinois, who's standing up and writing letters to the editors saying something needs to be done.

02:48:15.000 I mean, again, they'll have national freakouts over one kidnapped woman, but this is just like, eh, don't talk about it.

02:48:24.000 I mean, call up local radio stations.

02:48:26.000 Call up, say, KLBJ 590.

02:48:28.000 And say, hey, this is in the Chicago Tribune.

02:48:30.000 Are you going to do all your morning shows next week about the 200,000 kidnapped kids?

02:48:36.000 And see what the local station says.

02:48:38.000 Admit it.

02:48:40.000 Admit it.

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02:51:54.000 You know, that's the latest callers I get to them.

02:51:57.000 I'm sorry I can't.

02:51:57.000 I've got to play this Dinecore clip.

02:52:00.000 Now, Cynthia McKinney, this is ten months ago, back in March of last year, she brings up these points, and notice he doesn't deny it, and then ten months later, their lobby is trying to block any of this being stopped.

02:52:11.000 Okay, so this is the ongoing saga.

02:52:13.000 She brings up two other key issues, trillions missing, and she only brings up a small amount of that, and then she brings up NORAD Stand Down.

02:52:19.000 Go ahead and roll it.

02:52:21.000 Gentlelady from Georgia, Ms.

02:52:23.000 McKinney.

02:52:24.000 Oh, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

02:52:27.000 Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade.

02:52:41.000 The President calls for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business.

02:52:46.000 But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children.

02:52:55.000 While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox, manthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program.

02:53:09.000 Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S.

02:53:12.000 government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls? 0.97

02:53:16.000 That's my first question.

02:53:17.000 My second question, Mr. Secretary, according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.

02:53:29.000 Fiscal year 1999, $2.3 trillion missing.

02:53:31.000 Fiscal year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.

02:53:37.000 And D.O.D.

02:53:38.000 is the number one reason why the government can't balance his checkbook.

02:53:43.000 The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.

02:53:51.000 My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other?

02:53:59.000 How long have they had those contracts?

02:54:02.000 And how much have the taxpayers paid for them?

02:54:05.000 Finally, Mr. Secretary, after the last hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four war games on September 11th.

02:54:16.000 I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today, and then I do expect the written response to my previous question, hopefully by the end of the week.

02:54:31.000 Thank you, Representative.

02:54:34.000 The answer to your first question is no, absolutely not.

02:54:39.000 The policy of the United States government is clear, unambiguous, and opposed to the activities that you described.

02:54:49.000 The second question... Well, how do you explain the fact that DynCorp and its successor companies have received and continue to receive government contracts?

02:55:04.000 I would have to go and find the facts, but there are laws and rules and regulations with respect to government contracts, and there are times that corporations do things they should not do, in which case they tend to be suspended for some period.

02:55:19.000 There are times then that under the laws and the rules and regulations passed by the Congress and implemented by the executive branch, that corporations can get off of That's good.

02:55:31.000 We're out of time on that.

02:55:31.000 box, if you will, and be permitted to engage in contracts with the government.

02:55:37.000 They're generally not barred in perpetuity.

02:55:40.000 This contract, this company was never in the penalty box.

02:55:45.000 Okay.

02:55:45.000 If you can proceed to my second question.

02:55:46.000 That's good.

02:55:47.000 We're out of time on that.

02:55:48.000 But, I mean, listen, he doesn't even deny it.

02:55:51.000 It's just, oh, you go in a penalty box, which they never were even in.

02:55:53.000 So next time somebody kidnaps a bunch of kids, you say, well, why not have them go on the news and go, hey, I'm Don Gore, and the cops will go, hey, let him on out.

02:56:00.000 I mean, it's two rules.

02:56:02.000 See, there's a rule for the rest of society, and then these guys...

02:56:05.000 Can do everything, Kevin.

02:56:06.000 So that's ten months ago.

02:56:07.000 Now we know there's lobbyists up there with the Pentagon lobbying, Rumsfeld's lobbying to keep all this going.

02:56:12.000 Kevin?

02:56:12.000 Well, you know, another shameless plug for the movie Serenity, but I ain't gonna misbehave.

02:56:17.000 They riled me up and we're gonna stay on this and we're gonna expose them for everything they're involved with.

02:56:21.000 Somebody's gotta stand up for these people.

02:56:23.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - January 04, 2006

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