Alex Jones Show - 20060119_Thu_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, I'm fired up, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:44.000 In fact, I've never cooled down.

00:00:47.000 I was, of course, on Coast to Coast AM last night.

00:00:49.000 I thought it was an excellent three-hour broadcast that I was able to be involved with George Norrie and the second biggest radio show in the country.

00:01:00.000 Always honored to be a part of that, and we discussed the Cashless Society control and tracking grid, and I don't think I've ever heard that much information come out in mainstream media in a major venue on the subject.

00:01:14.000 So that was very informative, and I want to go back over, kind of an overview of just how serious this is today, spend maybe 10 minutes on it.

00:01:22.000 We also talked about the new infiltration of the Bohemian Grove, the new footage that's in the new documentary, The Order of Death.

00:01:30.000 And then also, Nori wanted to talk about Iran quite a bit.

00:01:36.000 And listen, we need to talk about Iran again today.

00:01:39.000 So we'll do that throughout the three hours because it's so important and just some huge new developments coming out on that front.

00:01:49.000 And front by front, I mean, pun intended, we are very close to that.

00:01:54.000 We have the Professor Castle, who debated John Yoo, one of the White House advisors that wrote memos that Bush could torture children in front of their parents and crush their body parts. 0.81

00:02:04.000 Very, very sick. 0.54

00:02:06.000 He'll be joining us.

00:02:07.000 He was there at the University debating Mr. Yoo.

00:02:11.000 We have that audio clip as well, so we'll be playing it.

00:02:15.000 That's in the second hour scheduled.

00:02:18.000 And then in the third hour, Dylan Avery, one of the producers of the amazing 9-11 doc, Loose Change.

00:02:27.000 Now there's Loose Change 2.

00:02:30.000 Even better, much better than the first, and we're carrying it here at InfoWars.com, here on Real Talk Radio, real issues of significance that actually affect you and your family.

00:02:46.000 I got an email the other day going, you know, I've heard of another show called Real Talk Radio.

00:02:49.000 Alex, uh, well, you know, I called the show that six, seven years ago, five years ago.

00:02:53.000 I even had t-shirts printed up that said it.

00:02:55.000 I'd wear them about.

00:02:57.000 And other shows have claimed that mantle.

00:02:59.000 So I thought, you know, I might as well just use my name since others have tried to do it.

00:03:03.000 So it's a Real Talk Radio, ladies and gentlemen.

00:03:07.000 Okay.

00:03:09.000 Here's some of the news.

00:03:10.000 Bin Laden warns of attacks, offers truce.

00:03:14.000 This is total theater.

00:03:16.000 Now they're claiming the bombing last week in Pakistan, big victory. 1.00

00:03:19.000 That's right out of the neocon Republican strategy book where they said we need victories, even if they're fake, or another terror attack to get the people behind our agenda.

00:03:31.000 And I heard the neocons today on the radio running around foaming at the mouth celebrating over it.

00:03:35.000 It's just total theater.

00:03:37.000 Meanwhile, Israel's new confidence in attack on Iran nukes.

00:03:41.000 No wonder Americans are so scared.

00:03:43.000 Listen to that headline.

00:03:44.000 Iran nukes.

00:03:46.000 They don't have what you'd think of as nukes.

00:03:49.000 They don't have even the materials to make an A-bomb. 0.94

00:03:52.000 They're ten years away from an A-bomb, the CIA's own reports admit.

00:03:56.000 Conservatively ten years.

00:03:58.000 If they were left alone.

00:04:00.000 And it just doesn't matter.

00:04:01.000 It doesn't matter.

00:04:03.000 Everybody thinks we're about to be nuked by the Iranians, and I believe the globalists probably will detonate a weapon and blame it on them so that you can live in a police state. 0.95

00:04:10.000 But it isn't going to be Iranians kicking down your door wearing black masks with MP5 submachine guns. 0.89

00:04:15.000 It isn't going to be the Iranians taking your pension funds.

00:04:18.000 It isn't going to be Iranians feeding you genetically engineered food that's very bad for you. 0.94

00:04:21.000 It isn't going to be the Iranians trying to force-inoculate you.

00:04:24.000 But, I mean, you know, it feels good.

00:04:26.000 If it feels good to hate the Iranians, even though people that hate them don't even know anything about the country, then c'est la vie, folks. 0.72

00:04:31.000 Just c'est la vie.

00:04:34.000 And they want to compromise, but the world says, no way! 0.99

00:04:37.000 We gon' come in there and you gon' die! 0.97

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00:08:09.000 Government cover-ups.

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00:08:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 Just in the last few hours, there are global reports coming out.

00:08:37.000 I have one here from the Associated Press, Reuters, you name it.

00:08:41.000 That Osama bin Laden warns of new attacks, but he offers a truce. 0.87

00:08:48.000 And I might as well say the Sandman threatens more attacks and offers a truce.

00:08:53.000 Or maybe Rumble Stillskin warns of attacks but offers a truce.

00:08:58.000 Or perhaps I should say a false of doom.

00:09:02.000 He doesn't really exist outside of Robert E. Howard, Conan the Barbarian books, but perhaps Thulse of Doom is threatening us and he's going to get us any minute.

00:09:14.000 Of course, just like a jack-in-the-box, Bin Laden pops out to scare us right on the eve of airstrikes on Iran that could come any day or any month or any year now.

00:09:25.000 You don't know when they're going to strike, but it looks like sooner than later and right out of the box comes Osama Bin Laden. 0.91

00:09:32.000 Three and a half years ago, they tried the fat man.

00:09:34.000 There was a fat guy with a nose about twice the size of Bin Laden's, looked absolutely nothing like him. 0.98

00:09:41.000 And the CIA said it's off the neck and Bin Laden's going to kill us all. 0.80

00:09:49.000 And then, over and over again, they will re-air old Bin Laden tapes, re-edited.

00:09:53.000 Everyone knows it's the same cave from four-plus years ago.

00:09:58.000 And then, a day later, there'll be a little retraction, just a small little, oh, that was an old re-edited tape.

00:10:03.000 But the general public saw it as, Bin Laden is back.

00:10:06.000 They did a voice-print analysis of the fat Bin Laden, and It was not Bin Laden because you can have a hundred percent voice print.

00:10:16.000 You can take the real voice of Bin Laden from interviews and tapes and make a code key to open a pass lock on a voice recognition software system.

00:10:28.000 And then you take the voice of the fat Bin Laden, and of course the CIA turned down the lights so it would be a little bit blurry and all the rest of it, but The French, a major university in Canada, US researchers, they all took the voice and tested it, and it wasn't even near the biometric access code of the voice pattern of Osama bin Bush, bin Laden, al-Qaeda. 0.60

00:10:54.000 It wasn't even near it.

00:10:56.000 And then linguists Listen to it, and listen to the voice patterns.

00:11:01.000 It was a Westerner, a Westerner, trying to pose with a Middle Eastern accent.

00:11:11.000 Sod accent.

00:11:13.000 And you can go read all the mainstream news articles about that, but again, those are the news articles that are in a few newspapers, and are maybe on a few news wires, but never make the big nightly news.

00:11:23.000 But, of course, last week they said that over the weekend they had killed the number two Al-Qaeda man, Ford Bin Laden.

00:11:32.000 And, folks, I'm not kidding.

00:11:34.000 I quit counting it ten times.

00:11:36.000 And, of course, most of the talk show hosts mix up the two.

00:11:39.000 The supposed Iraqi commander of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

00:11:42.000 Talk about a handle the Western media created.

00:11:46.000 And then there's his supposed doctor, the number two man, and different talk show hosts are saying that he was killed.

00:11:52.000 They don't even know the names.

00:11:54.000 It's hard to pronounce them.

00:11:55.000 I don't blame them.

00:11:56.000 And both guys have been killed.

00:11:58.000 Well, I mean, they're killed on a monthly basis.

00:12:01.000 And the Neocon documents, one of their little memos going around Washington and the Republican circle says, we need a terrorist attack.

00:12:08.000 The people aren't buying our agenda.

00:12:10.000 We're all getting in trouble for corruption and bid rigging and war profiteering.

00:12:13.000 We've got to do something.

00:12:16.000 To get people back behind what we're doing, our scams.

00:12:21.000 And they said a terror attack would really be great, or we could capture Bin Laden or claim we killed him, or that we're killing his lieutenants.

00:12:27.000 And so you see those policy papers being carried out, being executed.

00:12:34.000 And it has no connection to reality.

00:12:37.000 Just absolutely no connection, and it's extremely frustrating for me.

00:12:41.000 I mean, listen to this.

00:12:42.000 Bin Laden warns of attacks, offers truce.

00:12:46.000 Al Jazeera on Tuesday broadcast portions of an audio tape purportedly from Osama Bin Laden saying, Al Qaeda is making preparations for attacks in the United States, but offering a possible truce to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:13:01.000 The voice on the tape said, "...security in the United States is not the reason there have been no attacks since September 11, suicide hijackings.

00:13:09.000 Instead, the reason is because there are operations that needed preparations," he said.

00:13:13.000 Okay, let's just stop right there.

00:13:15.000 Number one, I'm sure that Al Jazeera is a front.

00:13:19.000 And by the way, in major polls in the Middle East, most Arabs think that.

00:13:22.000 Why? 0.99

00:13:22.000 Because they're not stupid. 0.99

00:13:24.000 There are things like Al Arabia and a whole bunch of other channels that are 50 times more hardcore. 0.94

00:13:30.000 I mean, just better reports, more information.

00:13:35.000 I mean, look, when the British government makes Al Jazeera a major channel and is supporting it, and the Queen of England's giving interviews to it, and David Frost, the little Royal Institute of International Affairs frontman, goes to be their host and their anchor, you know there's a problem.

00:13:53.000 They've got to be able to talk to the billion Muslims and convince them to be good little slaves so they have to build credibility for Al Jazeera. 1.00

00:14:00.000 And there's literally a hundred different points that prove this without a shadow of a doubt that they're fronts. 0.99

00:14:06.000 But one of the big ones is Bush wanting to bomb them and then that gets released by Blair cabinet officials and oh Bush is an idiot and Tony Blair to talk him down. 0.97

00:14:16.000 Folks, if you believe that, I got a bridge I want to sell you. 0.99

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00:14:30.000 This is how they have to create a false choice.

00:14:33.000 It's like Bill Clinton and George Bush vacationing together and having 11 meetings right before the election, before Clinton even ran back in 1991 and Clinton going to Bilderberg Group.

00:14:45.000 And then he's a known intelligence asset right out of high school.

00:14:50.000 Royal Institute of International Affairs, CFR, he went to their Rhodes Scholarship, which is total British intelligence.

00:14:59.000 I mean, the Rhodes Scholarship is the prototype of MI5, MI6.

00:15:04.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:15:06.000 I mean, it is to expand the British Empire.

00:15:09.000 And then now people never could believe me on that when I interviewed the CIA agents who were there watching the cocaine be unloaded for years.

00:15:16.000 Bill Clinton pulling up and overseeing operations.

00:15:18.000 Excellent job, man!

00:15:21.000 Bush flying in.

00:15:22.000 I mean, it's a joke, people.

00:15:25.000 We're talking about trillions and trillions of dollars in this economy being looted.

00:15:29.000 They don't leave it up to real debates as And real presidential elections.

00:15:35.000 Since Kennedy, we haven't had a real president.

00:15:37.000 And most of them before that, since Lincoln, weren't real.

00:15:42.000 And that's just on the record.

00:15:44.000 I mean, Kennedy, a month before he was killed, at a major university, and you can go read these transcripts out there, said, a secret government's in control, it's totally evil, I'm gonna abolish the CIA and the Federal Reserve, and he signed the executive orders to do it, and had our troops on the way back from From Vietnam when they blew his head off in Dallas.

00:16:07.000 So it's the same crew, it's the same crowd, and it's totally staged.

00:16:11.000 And until we hear that Ahmad Chalabi We hear that, you know, he's a convicted bank robber, and he was a Iranian torture master, and he's all these things, but oh, he's the good guy, and then he's the bad guy, and he's giving stuff to Iran, and then he flies to the U.S. 0.92

00:16:31.000 to New York, meets with Cheney.

00:16:33.000 Now he's the good guy.

00:16:34.000 They put him in charge of the Iraqi oil program.

00:16:39.000 I mean, a known convicted crook by our allies!

00:16:44.000 A known torture master and convicted crook in Jordan runs the oil program.

00:16:49.000 And they admit that there are tens of millions of dollars every month just missing.

00:16:54.000 And again, no one gets in trouble.

00:16:55.000 Just mass looting.

00:16:57.000 And then meanwhile, I'm driving into the office this morning and I hear Neocons on the radio.

00:17:01.000 I flip through channels knowing what I hear.

00:17:03.000 And they were literally celebrating, going, this is a great victory.

00:17:07.000 He's offering cruises. 0.99

00:17:08.000 It means we've got him on the ropes and scum like Cindy Sheehan. 1.00

00:17:12.000 They don't want to, you know, she wants to give them aid. 0.99

00:17:16.000 We've got to move in quick now.

00:17:18.000 We've got him.

00:17:19.000 We've got him on the run.

00:17:20.000 We've got him on the ropes.

00:17:21.000 Just as the RNC memo says, you know, claim they're on the ropes.

00:17:26.000 Have bin Laden say they're losing.

00:17:28.000 Claim that we've killed bin Laden.

00:17:30.000 It's just theater.

00:17:31.000 And I heard that one neocon go and I think we killed his number two man.

00:17:36.000 And I heard that neocon a month ago say they killed the number two man. 0.96

00:17:39.000 And that particular neocon that's on here locally, it's a national show, he's not stupid, he knows it's all staged. 0.94

00:17:46.000 I mean, do you like this, folks?

00:17:47.000 I mean, look, the government told you that it was all free news and free media, that was a sign of the freedom.

00:17:52.000 Turns out there's not one free newspaper in Iraq.

00:17:56.000 But our government will go in and kill you immediately if you don't write exactly what they want.

00:18:02.000 It's all staged.

00:18:04.000 And I've got articles right here where respected editors, secular editors over there, are given thirty years by the puppet government if they write an editorial criticizing the occupation.

00:18:16.000 Oh man, that's freedom!

00:18:17.000 And then they'll go, well this is a war, Alex, and we gotta... Wait a minute, I thought you... but the other day you were saying that it's freedom and look at the... look at the beautiful free press they've got!

00:18:27.000 And don't you understand that fake press is used here domestically.

00:18:30.000 The Pentagon admits, with the Pentagon Office of Strategic Information, the Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence, excuse me, that they are openly planting fake news stories.

00:18:42.000 Folks, that is not freedom!

00:18:45.000 I mean, this is mind-blowing.

00:18:47.000 I mean, here's an example of just wordsmithing and total manipulation.

00:18:51.000 World Net Daily, and you can find these everywhere else in every other major publication.

00:18:56.000 Israel's new confidence in attack on Iran nukes.

00:19:01.000 Air Force has workable war plan with high probability of success.

00:19:05.000 What?

00:19:06.000 Blowing up a peaceful uranium enrichment center?

00:19:11.000 Which you can't even make A-bombs with? 0.62

00:19:14.000 Even A-bombs?

00:19:15.000 Primitive A-bombs?

00:19:16.000 I mean, that's just 101.

00:19:18.000 It's what all the nuclear physicists and nuclear engineers are saying.

00:19:22.000 It's just, you can't do it.

00:19:23.000 You can't make a ham sandwich without ham and bread.

00:19:26.000 There's no ham, there's no bread, you can't make it.

00:19:26.000 You just can't.

00:19:29.000 You understand?

00:19:30.000 It's just a total lie!

00:19:32.000 But the average person hears this.

00:19:35.000 Israel's new confidence in attack on Iran nukes.

00:19:42.000 Israel's nuke? 0.92

00:19:44.000 Iran nukes, nukes, nukes. 0.71

00:19:45.000 They took the seal off the nukes.

00:19:47.000 Sounds like a, you know, movie, uh, with Harrison Ford.

00:19:50.000 They're taking the seal off the nukes.

00:19:52.000 They're gonna detonate it.

00:19:53.000 People go, nukes!

00:19:54.000 They've got them!

00:19:56.000 There are no nukes!

00:19:57.000 But they just say nukes!

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00:24:18.000 Coming on to talk about John Yoo, one of Bush's top advisors, saying Bush can torture small children in front of their parents.

00:24:26.000 Oh, by the way, Scott, don't forget to find that clip that we played last week of their exchange so we can play that on air.

00:24:32.000 Just giving you a heads up to dig that out of the computer that's probably got, I have no idea how many clips in it.

00:24:38.000 But on this whole Iran situation, Iran's new confidence You know, they're just gotta be nuked. 1.00

00:24:46.000 They're evil because they've got nukes.

00:24:49.000 And Rumsfeld and others have said they don't rule out using tactical weapons, tactical thermonuclear weapons to, quote, knock out these deep bunkers, these facilities.

00:25:03.000 And understand, there have been U.N.

00:25:04.000 inspectors in all of them.

00:25:05.000 They have video cameras in them.

00:25:08.000 And all of the experts that run laboratories and plants and have made weapons for this country and other countries go, what do you mean?

00:25:16.000 You can't make anything with that!

00:25:18.000 But it doesn't matter, they've got a steady stream of government agents and operatives to go on TV and Christina Amanpour to misquote the Iranian president.

00:25:29.000 Listen, last night I was on Coast to Coast AM and a couple callers called in and go, well he just threatened to nuke Israel!

00:25:35.000 Well, what do we... Alex, I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but... A man called in and said that?

00:25:40.000 A lady called in and said that? 1.00

00:25:41.000 Of the calls he took?

00:25:43.000 I mean, again, people don't hear the retraction.

00:25:46.000 That's why Christina Amanpour did that. 0.99

00:25:49.000 And they always do that.

00:25:51.000 You understand CNN with ITN and others, back in the mid-90s, went and showed one starving guy up at a fence, who had a disease, trying to break into the food pantry at an aid station.

00:26:05.000 They had barbed wire around it.

00:26:06.000 And they said he was inside a camp.

00:26:09.000 I mean, I'm sorry.

00:26:10.000 Do we like being conned like this?

00:26:12.000 Does it feel good?

00:26:15.000 I know you're going to have debates around the water cooler or out there on the job site with people that are like, he said he'd nuke Israel!

00:26:22.000 He said it!

00:26:23.000 What are you, against Israel?

00:26:28.000 It's just mind-blowing.

00:26:29.000 He did not say that.

00:26:30.000 Most of the things you hear the Iranian President has said is not true.

00:26:35.000 And I'm not even defending the Iranian President.

00:26:37.000 Last night I kept trying to explain my position on Iran.

00:26:41.000 I'm like, the top Chinese General, on record, last year, late last year, remember?

00:26:48.000 He called together over a hundred top reporters, said there's going to be a press conference in one week.

00:26:54.000 Wall Street Journal, Financial Times of London, CNN, Time Magazine, they're all there! 0.98

00:26:59.000 And he says, if you get involved in Taiwan, you get involved in any of our possessions, any of our national interest, anywhere in the world, we are targeting 200 of your cities and we will preemptively, that is with no provocation, without telling you, hit you first And kill half of your population. 0.95

00:27:21.000 By the way, 90% of the American people live in cities. 0.96

00:27:25.000 And 200 cities.

00:27:26.000 I mean, when you get up in the 150's, you're looking at little bitty towns.

00:27:30.000 I mean, we're only 300 million people now, with the projections with the new midterm census coming up.

00:27:39.000 In fact, we just crossed the 300 million mark.

00:27:40.000 It's really higher than that with all the illegal aliens. 0.84

00:27:43.000 I'd say 320 million, but who's counting?

00:27:45.000 We're only 300 million people, and you hit 200 cities. 1.00

00:27:50.000 He said, we'll kill half of you. 0.99

00:27:51.000 That's a lot more than half. 1.00

00:27:52.000 I would imagine that more than half would die.

00:27:56.000 And then he said, we are 1,350,000,000.

00:27:59.000 We want a war with you.

00:28:01.000 He's the head of their military, number three in the entire government.

00:28:07.000 And I brought it up last night and people were like, Alex, it doesn't matter, man, that Iranian president, he's just scary! 1.00

00:28:13.000 Yeah, but he won't.

00:28:14.000 He doesn't have A-bombs.

00:28:15.000 He can't have them.

00:28:16.000 This is all just hype and hysteria.

00:28:19.000 But everybody shares the word, Iran's nukes.

00:28:21.000 You know, Israel's new confidence in attack on Iran nukes.

00:28:24.000 Then you read it's peaceful enrichment for reactors.

00:28:29.000 You know, the University of Texas has actually, I've been wrong the last few years, I keep saying one reactor, they have two reactors.

00:28:35.000 And a lot of big universities have reactors.

00:28:37.000 We'll have them right in your neighborhood.

00:28:38.000 You'll never even know they're there.

00:28:40.000 Up off Palmer, North Austin, or downtown.

00:28:42.000 You know, nuclear reactors, no big deal.

00:28:44.000 Nobody guarding them, nothing.

00:28:45.000 You just drive in there.

00:28:46.000 You can do whatever you want.

00:28:48.000 No problem.

00:28:49.000 Seriously.

00:28:50.000 But to make a long story short, If a university wants this stuff enriched, that Iran's not even allowed to enrich to have something peaceful that you can't use for weapons, different isotopes, different animal folks, it's like you ride a horse, you don't ride a, say, a Boston Terrier, it'd break its back.

00:29:10.000 See, you can't do that with it.

00:29:12.000 It's not a horse.

00:29:13.000 It's like weapons-grade plutonium or uranium is a horse.

00:29:16.000 And this is like saying that Iran is going to be able to make an A-bomb. 0.92

00:29:19.000 Write a mouse.

00:29:22.000 Forget a dog.

00:29:23.000 It's like saying they can mount a mouse and ride it to town.

00:29:27.000 But see what a university can just call up and, hey, send over some of that.

00:29:31.000 I'm going to have a reactor.

00:29:32.000 Sure, we'll deliver it next week.

00:29:34.000 Sign a few forms.

00:29:35.000 No big deal.

00:29:37.000 Iran isn't even allowed to have. 0.99

00:29:40.000 That's global government, folks.

00:29:42.000 This is all a big lesson in global government.

00:29:45.000 More than anything, that's what this is about.

00:29:46.000 About hearing how the U.N.

00:29:47.000 is the boss.

00:29:48.000 Everyone's gotta go to the U.N.

00:29:50.000 and see what they say.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:36.000 We do have the professor coming on that debated John Yoo, a literal pig demon. 0.89

00:33:43.000 And so that is coming up. 0.98

00:33:44.000 And I just can't think of a better term for them than pig demons. 0.99

00:33:47.000 I mean, just they're pig-like demons. 0.99

00:33:49.000 Talking about torturing children and snickering about it. 1.00

00:33:52.000 It's just sickos.

00:33:53.000 Jeffrey Dahmer type mindsets being openly promoted as if it's good. 0.70

00:33:57.000 I mean, folks, they're really trying to warp our brains right now.

00:34:00.000 This is all being scientifically done.

00:34:02.000 That's coming up.

00:34:03.000 But I want to just briefly get into some of the other news here.

00:34:09.000 Some of the other news that is developing.

00:34:11.000 U.S.

00:34:12.000 openly tortures suspects, says report, Associated Press.

00:34:17.000 The gauntlet has just been thrown down.

00:34:20.000 I see articles like this every day.

00:34:20.000 Look at this.

00:34:22.000 They're recasting Big Brother.

00:34:25.000 He's good.

00:34:30.000 He's helpful.

00:34:31.000 He's friendly.

00:34:33.000 He's a good guy.

00:34:35.000 A friendly Big Brother could offer a helping hand.

00:34:39.000 That's an article out of the Irish Times.

00:34:43.000 Federal grants bring surveillance cameras to small towns, Washington Post, everywhere.

00:34:49.000 The face scanning, license plate reading cameras are going in, federally, financially, Defense Department program.

00:34:57.000 Here's another one.

00:34:58.000 Official U.S.

00:34:59.000 agency paints dire picture of out-of-control Iraq, London Guardian, plunging into civil war.

00:35:04.000 Well, that was what they wanted to do from the start.

00:35:08.000 Extent of soldiers' injuries in Iraq hidden by Ministry of Defense.

00:35:12.000 Iranian president cements Syrian alliance.

00:35:15.000 And, of course, on top of all that, Bush administration wants Google search records.

00:35:20.000 Records sought in U.S.

00:35:21.000 quest to revive porn law.

00:35:23.000 Now, listen.

00:35:26.000 The law has already been struck down that websites have no responsibility to keep teenagers or children from accessing porn on the internet.

00:35:37.000 And as out of control as it is on the web, I don't like being sent, you know, emails that say, your mortgage numbers, or your bank, or, hi, it's your mother, and you click on it, and it's a woman with a horse.

00:35:48.000 I mean, you know, we've all been on the internet, run into that.

00:35:53.000 That could all be dealt with through ISPs.

00:35:56.000 If you actually complain and do something, people will get shut down.

00:35:58.000 But nobody does that.

00:36:00.000 Instead, the government, I'm going to talk about this later more, prances around.

00:36:05.000 Meanwhile, this is the same Pentagon.

00:36:08.000 This is the same White House where we have congressional hearings where they admit hundreds of thousands of kidnapped women and children into sex slavery and physical slavery, work camp slavery, public. 1.00

00:36:19.000 Chicago Tribune, MSNBC, Associated Press just three weeks ago.

00:36:23.000 Remember all those articles?

00:36:25.000 And it's just, ah, so what?

00:36:27.000 Ah, who cares where the kids are?

00:36:28.000 I mean, just public.

00:36:29.000 Public, massive, twilight zone level, totally insane.

00:36:33.000 And meanwhile, uh-oh, we've got to, uh, we've got to have all the search records of Google, of everyone, uh, without a warrant, just set the precedent when the law they're talking about has been struck down by the Supreme Court to make sure, uh, and to get some statistics about, uh, if you're searching for random other issues, like you, You know, type in, say, auto loan, are you getting porn?

00:36:58.000 And I'm here to tell you, no.

00:36:59.000 You type in auto loan, you do not get porn.

00:37:04.000 But it's opening the email that you get the unwanted porn.

00:37:07.000 It's a total red herring, an excuse to go in there and people just hear children porn, protect children.

00:37:15.000 It has nothing to do with it.

00:37:18.000 Parents should control this.

00:37:20.000 I mean, there is no way in the world That my children are going to have computers unattended till they are, you know, at least partway through high school.

00:37:32.000 And I don't care if you see 10 year olds on the street with their own personal handheld Palm Pilots, surfing to their heart's content.

00:37:41.000 Listen, my children aren't going to be getting cars till they're a little bit older, or until they've proven they can drive safely.

00:37:46.000 I have no idea why I was allowed to have a car at 16.

00:37:49.000 I mean, I was a danger.

00:37:53.000 It's just, you've got to gauge the child's responsibility.

00:37:55.000 I'm sorry.

00:37:57.000 Or the other answer is, is have them driving tractors when they're 10, and driving work trucks on a ranch.

00:38:02.000 That's how it used to grow up, and they'll have responsibility by the time they're 16.

00:38:06.000 But don't just... Side issue!

00:38:07.000 The point is, folks, again, I'm just going to cover this down.

00:38:11.000 We've got Debbie Morrow on hold, spent about five minutes with her, but let me just talk about this Google thing right now.

00:38:17.000 Because this is so amazing.

00:38:19.000 Bush has Arlen Specter, Bush has his chief counsels, he has his advisors, all saying Bush is above the law.

00:38:29.000 Bush can order torture of children.

00:38:31.000 Think how sick that is.

00:38:32.000 We can torture children in front of their parents, but we want to have all your search records to keep kids safe when it doesn't even do anything.

00:38:38.000 They say just so they know data-wise, so they can get search engines in trouble if they're directing people wrong, which they don't do.

00:38:49.000 This is just federal control into everything you've searched, everything you're doing.

00:38:54.000 And let me just give you a news flash.

00:38:55.000 They've already got all that.

00:38:57.000 They've got hubs built into all the telecommunications grids at 96 by federal law, upwards of 10 billion bucks of them.

00:39:05.000 Part of that law was that every cell phone be satellite tracked by October 1st, 2001.

00:39:09.000 They passed it in 96.

00:39:11.000 That was five years before.

00:39:14.000 And then now all your cell phones are tracking you.

00:39:16.000 Just try calling up with your cell phone and going, hey, tell me where I'm at.

00:39:19.000 And if you've got it on your service, the government can already do it, but only some services let you do it.

00:39:24.000 And they'll tell you the exact where you're at.

00:39:26.000 You're at the corner of Washington and Liberty.

00:39:29.000 You're at the corner of Maine and 24th.

00:39:31.000 I mean, I was, again, up in Fort Worth.

00:39:34.000 So, number one, number one, they already got all that data.

00:39:37.000 Okay?

00:39:37.000 I mean, that's number one.

00:39:40.000 Number two, all they're doing is announcing it.

00:39:42.000 They're announcing, we have total power, we can spy on you, it's for your own good, it's to stop Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden wants to call America, shouldn't we be able to listen?

00:39:51.000 They don't even need a warrant for that, folks.

00:39:52.000 The FISA isn't even a warrant, it's a rubber stamp.

00:39:54.000 They didn't even do that.

00:39:55.000 I got a big stack here of farmers being watched by NSA satellites, being used by local governments, being tapped into.

00:40:03.000 War protesters.

00:40:04.000 Oh, oh, oh, two vegans went and peacefully protested in front of a Honey Ham shop.

00:40:09.000 This is mainstream news.

00:40:12.000 Homeland Security pulled up and said that it was terrorism.

00:40:15.000 They didn't have a permit to protest on the street corner.

00:40:18.000 They weren't even on the business property.

00:40:20.000 And they arrested them as terrorists.

00:40:22.000 Folks, that is the Associated Press reporting it like it's normal and dry. 0.94

00:40:26.000 Imagine, you're protesting the Honey Ham place, saying pigs are abused in these little boxes.

00:40:31.000 Now, again, folks, I'm not an animal rights activist.

00:40:33.000 I'm not even getting into that.

00:40:34.000 My point is, they got a right to do that.

00:40:37.000 Folks, I was on George Norrie last night.

00:40:39.000 I had 127 articles that I physically went through my stacks from the last few weeks, because I print everything as a hard copy.

00:40:46.000 All these mainstream news articles, and I got through about 10 of them, and he said, okay, stop, stop.

00:40:50.000 And it was just NSA listening to everything, NSA watching reporters, NSA using it for political control, FBI harassing war protesters, harassing gun groups, just military taking photos of citizens all over the country.

00:41:07.000 Again!

00:41:08.000 But the national debate is about Bin Laden calling America, are we allowed to listen?

00:41:13.000 So of course we're supposed to listen to Bin Laden! 0.99

00:41:16.000 What's wrong with you liberals?

00:41:19.000 So, the new thing is, Bush administration wants Google search records, records sought in U.S.

00:41:26.000 quest to rein porn law, or revive porn law.

00:41:32.000 I just, it is so unbelievable, folks.

00:41:35.000 It is so unbelievable.

00:41:38.000 And, it's just, we want access to everything you're doing, no more warrants, no more nothing.

00:41:43.000 They're already doing it, they just want to now openly do it so they can start using it.

00:41:49.000 You see, it's one thing to be doing it, now they want to use it on an everyday basis.

00:41:57.000 Oh, it's unbelievable.

00:41:58.000 It is unbelievable.

00:41:59.000 And this should drive down Google's stock.

00:42:00.000 Of course it won't.

00:42:01.000 People should be upset about this.

00:42:03.000 People should be really demanding.

00:42:06.000 Google's already worked with China to selectively edit where you can't even do searches in China, in-country, through those web ports and hubs.

00:42:16.000 It's just like MySpace with Rupert Murdoch.

00:42:18.000 Live time, you criticize Rupert Murdoch, you type, nothing will post.

00:42:23.000 You talk about any of Rupert Murdoch's CityCorps holdings, or talk about any other competition, you can't type it on your own supposed blog, because it ain't your own blog!

00:42:38.000 They came and bought up a 38 million size community, and I've talked to the Myspacers walking around, falling all over themselves, talking about how trendy they are. 1.00

00:42:46.000 I mean, they'll actually walk over to you and go, it's the most trendy thing ever.

00:42:49.000 I'm like, yeah, man, it's real trendy.

00:42:51.000 Go somewhere else now.

00:42:52.000 You know, it's no good.

00:42:53.000 And he's like, well, maybe, yeah, he's doing that, but so what?

00:42:58.000 It's just like, totally trendy, man.

00:43:01.000 Totally trendy.

00:43:03.000 I'm sorry, it was trendy.

00:43:05.000 It was fun.

00:43:05.000 It was good.

00:43:06.000 It ain't now.

00:43:08.000 Okay?

00:43:09.000 We have the power by where we go, what we do, and what we support.

00:43:13.000 And so when something starts doing things like this, leave it!

00:43:16.000 Alright, I'm going to shut up.

00:43:18.000 Debbie Morrow, thanks for holding there graciously.

00:43:21.000 Haven't had you on in a week or so, and I believe in Made in America products, and I believe in New Millennium Concepts, Made in America, highest quality, gravity-fed filters.

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00:43:39.000 Yes, I do, and thank you for having me, and I don't mind holding it all, because it gives me an opportunity to hear you.

00:43:46.000 Well, I know you're busy, but just be honest with me, Debbie, because I want your real response.

00:43:51.000 Okay.

00:43:51.000 I mean, I really want what you think.

00:43:54.000 Did any of what I was just saying make sense?

00:43:55.000 Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:43:57.000 Do you see what I'm getting at?

00:43:59.000 Oh yeah, I mean I wish I could listen more, but absolutely, because it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you believe in the issues, it's whether or not we have the right to protest.

00:44:11.000 You know, I mean, when did we lose the right to be Americans?

00:44:15.000 You know, stand on the corner with a picket sign or something, and that's the whole issue.

00:44:20.000 It's not whether or not you believe in what these people are picking about, but we do believe that we have the right to do it, you know, and that's what's been taken away from us.

00:44:30.000 We don't have the right to be Americans anymore.

00:44:33.000 And then they say it's to stop Al Qaeda, but it has nothing to do with it.

00:44:37.000 Right.

00:44:38.000 I mean, I have over 120 articles here just in the last two weeks that I have in a stack here, Debbie.

00:44:45.000 And none of it has anything to do with the forked tail, cloven hoofed Bin Laden. 0.92

00:44:53.000 Well, and that's what they do.

00:44:53.000 Right.

00:44:55.000 They say, well, if we do it to Bin Laden, we have to be able to do it to everybody. 0.99

00:45:00.000 And that's such nonsense, because if they really wanted to get rid of him, they could get rid of him, you know?

00:45:06.000 I mean, it's like, you know, they... Well, number three at the CIA said, we don't want to kill him, we don't want to capture him.

00:45:15.000 Well, yeah, because he works for them.

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00:47:39.000 And this is an area where we can at least take control of this area of our lives.

00:47:44.000 And water is 70% of the body.

00:47:47.000 Right, and if you think you're safe because you're on rainwater or well water, you know, don't believe it.

00:47:53.000 Yesterday when I was driving, you know, they were like doing the sky with the chemtrails.

00:47:58.000 And I literally saw a cloud that had a rainbow in it.

00:48:03.000 And I know that was from the chemtrails.

00:48:05.000 You know, and that oily substance they put in the sky and it gets in the clouds.

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00:48:38.000 Debbie, thank you so much for coming on.

00:48:40.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:48:41.000 I really appreciate, you bet, I really appreciate you joining us.

00:48:44.000 Folks, it's up to you.

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00:49:09.000 Let's go ahead and talk to John in Tennessee.

00:49:11.000 Thanks for holding.

00:49:11.000 Go ahead, John.

00:49:13.000 Yeah, Alex.

00:49:14.000 I was at my local friendly neighborhood Veterans Hospital, Administration Hospital yesterday.

00:49:21.000 I'm getting my medication with some other buddies of mine.

00:49:25.000 I was looking through it, through my medication, and my friend was, and he found, we found embossed in some of our pills was a small metallic substance, like we broke it apart and was looking at it, and some of the, I think they're RFIDs, like in the medication or something.

00:49:48.000 I just thought that was interesting.

00:49:50.000 Actually, Viagra just announced they're going to put chips in the pill bottles, and there is a discussion of putting chips in pills.

00:49:59.000 You can type that into Google, you'll find it.

00:50:01.000 Of course, Bush now wants to know what you're typing in.

00:50:02.000 It has a chilling effect.

00:50:03.000 It's meant to scare us, folks.

00:50:04.000 They should be scared, because we're getting wise to the globalist. 0.85

00:50:08.000 He's just a puppet.

00:50:11.000 What type of medication is it?

00:50:13.000 It was a painkiller.

00:50:16.000 Percocet painkiller.

00:50:17.000 Yeah, they do use RFID in the bottles.

00:50:21.000 I've been reading on them some of those, what is it, Class 3 narcotics, but prescription narcotics.

00:50:27.000 Percocet's one of them, but I didn't know it was in the pills.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, he found it in his pill, but also there's some other stories I have about some of my friends who were in Afghanistan and Iraq about Having snipers come after them and stuff like that.

00:50:42.000 I don't know if you heard about Duba, the sniper, and Pashtun.

00:50:47.000 Well, yeah, stay there.

00:50:48.000 And Stan, Mark, Paula, and others are coming up in about 10 minutes in the next hour if we take some of these calls.

00:50:48.000 I'll let you finish up, John.

00:50:54.000 We're going to have an interesting guest on you don't want to miss.

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00:54:01.000 Look, I should have gone to close earlier.

00:54:06.000 I want to get to everybody here as quickly as possible.

00:54:11.000 Let's go ahead and go to John in Tennessee.

00:54:14.000 John, you're on the air.

00:54:16.000 Finish up what you were saying, some of the stories over with your friends in Afghanistan.

00:54:19.000 Yeah, I have some friends who got back from Afghanistan, and while they were over there, told me stories about they, you know, they wouldn't run into resistance, but all of a sudden they'd get calls over the radio of, you know, like guys called, you know, Pashtun and, you know, speaking English. 0.52

00:54:36.000 We're going to kill you.

00:54:36.000 Oh, we know where you are.

00:54:37.000 We're going to get you.

00:54:38.000 And for those that don't know, that is mainstream European news and it never is on U.S.

00:54:42.000 news.

00:54:42.000 that's happened to the Marines in Iraq.

00:54:45.000 And for those that don't know, that is mainstream European news, and it never is on U.S. news.

00:54:50.000 They've caught Israelis over and over again dressed up like Arabs shooting Marines.

00:54:55.000 The Marines will catch them, beat them up, and they're ordered to release them. 0.92

00:55:00.000 And, you know, they take their clothes off.

00:55:01.000 They're all Massad or Shin Bet, big Star of the Davids all over them. 0.86

00:55:05.000 And the same thing is down in Basra.

00:55:07.000 They caught MI6.

00:55:08.000 And I say in my sixth SAS is assigned to them, Special Air Services, dressed up in fake beards, driving around with car bombs, shooting cops, shooting our allies.

00:55:17.000 It's because the PNAC document, the Israeli document of 83, even before that, says civil war, balkanization, they want a problem to stay there.

00:55:28.000 So you're saying your buddies who were over there are starting to figure that out?

00:55:30.000 Yeah, and there's one, every time there's an Israeli advisor in their company or platoon, They always get ambushed.

00:55:38.000 Every time they go into an area that's not supposed to have anybody in it, it's totally cleared out and set up with traps and everything.

00:55:47.000 It's insane.

00:55:48.000 It looks like...

00:55:49.000 Literally, the Israelis are just promulgating more terror, more stuff going on. 1.00

00:55:53.000 It's because the Arabs aren't even fighting, my friend.

00:55:57.000 There isn't even a war.

00:56:00.000 Listen, there are real bombings going on with some real killing, but what will happen is our government, or the Israelis and the British, and they've been caught, will carry out a bombing against one group, say, of Shia.

00:56:09.000 Then they really will go run and attack some Sunnis, or they stir it up. 1.00

00:56:16.000 Well, Blackwater doesn't have any Israeli advisors.

00:56:18.000 And once they kicked them out of their ranks, they haven't had any sneak attacks.

00:56:23.000 They haven't had as many deaths as the Marines have.

00:56:27.000 If people have family, write to them.

00:56:31.000 You don't have to take orders from a foreign nation.

00:56:33.000 Get the Israelis out of your platoons. 1.00

00:56:35.000 Get them out of your groups.

00:56:37.000 Well, I mean, it was Israelis predominantly.

00:56:39.000 And this is just the facts, folks. 1.00

00:56:41.000 Taking the photos of the idiots like Grainer in England, torturing people. 1.00

00:56:46.000 I mean, why? 1.00

00:56:47.000 Why aren't the people taking the photos in trouble?

00:56:51.000 Let's start putting two and two together.

00:56:53.000 See, see, people don't understand.

00:56:54.000 Do the globalists make more money where they're a year or twenty?

00:56:58.000 See, we think we're failing.

00:57:00.000 No, man, the war on drugs is succeeding.

00:57:02.000 The more drugs, the more people in prison, the more the police state, it's working.

00:57:06.000 See, failing is winning for the globalists.

00:57:08.000 Failing in Iraq, failing in Afghanistan is winning. 1.00

00:57:11.000 People don't understand that.

00:57:13.000 The troops better start figuring that out.

00:57:17.000 Are the people you talk to over there, your comrades, are they aware of how bad DU is?

00:57:26.000 The ones who got back are.

00:57:27.000 I have a few buddies who are sick.

00:57:28.000 One of my buddies gave his company commander a 9-11 road to tyranny.

00:57:34.000 The man sat down and cried.

00:57:37.000 He wrote me and said this guy sat down and cried.

00:57:42.000 Really, I think it's our responsibility as the people back here in the rear Get the troops out.

00:57:47.000 Do something.

00:57:48.000 We have to... Well, I'll tell you, crying is the real response of a real man when he realizes murdering terrorists are in control of the government and everything's a complete fraud.

00:57:57.000 Yeah.

00:57:58.000 But I'll tell you, the good news is the people are waking up and even if the globalists carry off a nuke in this country, all the king's horses and all the king's men aren't going to be able to put the new world order back together again.

00:58:09.000 I'm telling you, they've already lost and they're just starting to figure it out.

00:58:13.000 They're just starting to figure it out. 1.00

00:58:15.000 Bunch of arrogant trash. 1.00

00:58:17.000 Good to hear from you, my friend. 1.00

00:58:19.000 I appreciate the call.

00:58:21.000 The facts are the facts, and find out what's in the... I bet I know what made him cry.

00:58:26.000 FEMA saying our founding fathers are terrorists, America's bad, and all Christians are terrorists. 0.99

00:58:31.000 Oh yeah, that's what they're teaching. 1.00

00:58:32.000 They're not teaching the police that the Arabs are bad.

00:58:37.000 They're teaching them that red-blooded Americans are. 0.87

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00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 This is your wartime transmission against the New World Order. 0.90

00:59:18.000 We are the organic, natural response to the tyrants.

00:59:23.000 We are engaging in special warfare with the truth at point-blank range at the local level across the country, defending this country, exposing the terrorists.

00:59:32.000 We are In a figure of speech, swinging our muskets, ladies and gentlemen, against the enemy.

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00:59:57.000 Licking their boots will only ensure your destruction. 0.99

01:00:01.000 Alright, let's go to Mark in Texas. 0.99

01:00:03.000 Mark, go ahead, welcome.

01:00:05.000 Well, Alex, good to talk to you today.

01:00:06.000 Hey, if you and I were to talk, we would certainly agree about this a whole lot more than we disagree.

01:00:15.000 And we do have a terrible trend here, and the whole point is, what are you going to do to stay ahead of the trend?

01:00:20.000 How can you actually profit from what's coming down?

01:00:24.000 You don't have a radio on, do you?

01:00:26.000 No, I do not.

01:00:27.000 Okay, it's just echoing.

01:00:28.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:00:30.000 Okay, well you, for one, you have figured out how to profit from what's coming down.

01:00:34.000 You know, for one thing, you've got a lot of advertisement on there, you make a lot of money off of what's going on, so congratulations on that.

01:00:43.000 No, no, put them on hold, put them on hold.

01:00:47.000 Let's counter each thing one point at a time.

01:00:50.000 That's a nice little passive-aggressive thing, and I can tell where it's going.

01:00:54.000 So before you dole out some more bills, some more chum, Let me just say this to you. 0.92

01:01:01.000 Number one, there's nothing wrong with making money if it's done morally.

01:01:04.000 Number two, if you really want to be honest, I wish the Genesis Network had made $10 million.

01:01:10.000 Unfortunately, it hasn't.

01:01:12.000 In the aggregate in seven years, since its inception from another failed network before it, it has actually lost money in the aggregate.

01:01:20.000 I mean, if you really want to know the numbers, the network has not turned a profit until the last year. 0.99

01:01:24.000 You are a buffoon. 0.99

01:01:26.000 Why don't you do the math? 0.99

01:01:27.000 Why don't you call the network up and buy some advertising, and then listen to how many advertisers there are, and figure out how much it costs just for our $5,000 a month satellites that we've got two up.

01:01:41.000 Why don't you learn what a big staff cost?

01:01:44.000 Here in my little office in Texas, total now I've got 8 employees.

01:01:49.000 Right here in this office right now there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 people.

01:01:53.000 Their cars are lined up right there.

01:01:54.000 They have families.

01:01:55.000 They have to eat.

01:01:57.000 Okay?

01:01:58.000 So, countering what you do, and I wish, because all it is is gas in my fuel tank.

01:02:04.000 If we had a lot of money, which we really need, then I could do even more.

01:02:10.000 Okay, I could do a lot more.

01:02:13.000 I love fighting the New World Order.

01:02:14.000 I get a thrill out of waking people up. 1.00

01:02:16.000 I'll probably be killed someday for what I do while little coward whiners like you go around sniping at people. 1.00

01:02:25.000 Now, if you got something you disagree with, buddy, you put it on the table. 1.00

01:02:28.000 But don't sit there and give me a bunch of tripe, okay? 0.97

01:02:33.000 Don't even sit there and try it with me.

01:02:35.000 Alright?

01:02:36.000 Makes me sick.

01:02:37.000 Now go ahead and finish what you were saying.

01:02:38.000 How about you saw how you sold out the Gray family? 0.59

01:02:41.000 There you go.

01:02:42.000 And you notice, thanks for the call, yesterday another one of them called in here with a total made-up fable.

01:02:50.000 And they don't care if stuff's a fable.

01:02:52.000 And this is because we're hurting them bad.

01:02:54.000 But the globalists don't even have to come out and attack me.

01:02:58.000 They can put out this info and then these totally unhappy nobodies Can go out and do whatever they want. 1.00

01:03:06.000 And imagine being Alex Jones.

01:03:07.000 Being in Austin, Texas.

01:03:08.000 Being on the Genesis Network. 0.98

01:03:09.000 And having parasites. 0.98

01:03:12.000 A parasite that has moved down here and that has tried to set up an operation. 1.00

01:03:17.000 And that has put out lies about me that I was an idiot enough to even put up with. 0.99

01:03:22.000 And then to see the fruit of their lies, and then to see them literally trying to sit upon the back of this network, and feed on us and do bad things. 0.93

01:03:32.000 Let me just tell you something, all of you.

01:03:33.000 You are not going to stop us, and we are not afraid of any of the New World Order's minions, and we're going to move forward, and we're going to expose the globalists.

01:03:42.000 You want to talk about the Iran War?

01:03:44.000 You want to talk about the Bush administration saying they can torture children?

01:03:47.000 Let's talk about it. 1.00

01:03:48.000 You want to suck your thumb and be a bunch of trailer trash? 1.00

01:03:51.000 Go ahead. 1.00

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01:08:14.000 And I don't normally call names, but folks, somebody who goes, yeah, we can torture small children and crush their testicles in front of their parents is a pig demon. 1.00

01:08:21.000 I mean, there's no better word. 0.99

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01:08:26.000 They had some shame.

01:08:28.000 And I just learned it was Stephen Bybee that actually wrote the memo saying that.

01:08:33.000 uh... but then it was uh... it was uh... it was john you another one of these uh... uh... those palestinian creatures who said yeah the president there's no treating do that if he wants i mean this is it isn't in the president can barbecue small children on the white house lawn the president can snort cocaine off the backs of uh... uh... topless dancers on in the oval office on national tv no he can't do that and again he is it to a higher standard okay i want to go to our guest on the show 0.50

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01:10:45.000 Bush Adviser says President has legal power to torture children.

01:10:49.000 John Yee publicly argued that there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child or a suspect in custody, including by crushing that child's I hate to tell you, we don't talk like this on the show, but when the President's people are putting these in memos, you've got to talk about it.

01:11:04.000 It's like Gonzalez, now Attorney General, says they don't need warrants to spy on you.

01:11:08.000 I mean, that ought to scare everybody.

01:11:10.000 That's a felony every time they do that. 0.95

01:11:12.000 This came out in response to a question in a debate in Chicago with Notre Dame professor, international human rights scholar, Doug Castle, who's on with us now.

01:11:22.000 And he brought up some of these White House memos.

01:11:25.000 I mean, sick things, folks. 0.99

01:11:27.000 Sick! 0.92

01:11:28.000 I mean, I've read the memos on air where, well, we can torture them to death, and if we don't call it torture, it isn't. 0.94

01:11:33.000 And now, torturing children, which is, by the way, came out of the Abu Ghraib General Toghumbu report. 0.92

01:11:41.000 He was charged with it, raping women, beating children in front of people, raping people with large objects dripping with acid. 0.90

01:11:49.000 I mean, again, this is Mingela Jeffrey Dahmer hell-pitched. 0.95

01:11:54.000 This is Silence of the Lambs.

01:11:56.000 You know, she rubs the lotion on the skin. 0.93

01:11:58.000 That's enough.

01:11:59.000 Professor, thank you for joining us today.

01:12:01.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:12:03.000 I mean, does this freak you out like it freaks me out?

01:12:05.000 I mean, it's getting so... I think I'm in an alternate dimension.

01:12:08.000 I mean, this is getting so crazy.

01:12:11.000 Well, we're in one of those periods when the executive branch is going off the rails, and the purpose of my questioning Professor Yu, who's now a professor at Berkeley in California in the law school, about the idea of torturing a child, was to really draw out the unstated implications of this Justice Department memo, of which he was, although it was signed by Stephen Bybee, it was actually authored by John Yu.

01:12:37.000 And in that memo, which was directed in August of 2002 to then-Presidential Legal Counsel Alberto Gonzalez, now the Attorney General, the basic line of argument from the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel, which is the official legal advisor to the executive branch, was that whenever the President thinks he needs to do something in order to win a war, he can do it, and no law and no treaty can stop him.

01:13:05.000 Now when you read that, sort of in the general and the abstract, it sounds like they can't really mean to do anything.

01:13:12.000 So I thought I would try to see just how far you would take it in the Chicago debate last month.

01:13:18.000 And as you have reported, he did indicate that if it involved torturing someone, well, the president could authorize that.

01:13:26.000 I said, well, what if the guy doesn't talk after you torture him? 0.99

01:13:29.000 Can you torture his child in front of him, including by crushing The testicles, and his answer was legally yes. 0.99

01:13:35.000 Now to be fair to Professor Yu, he says he's against crushing the testicles of children. 0.99

01:13:41.000 He doesn't think it would be a good idea, but legally he claims the President can do it. 0.98

01:13:45.000 Well, that's total double thinking.

01:13:47.000 I don't like to do this, but we're going to maybe have to.

01:13:50.000 It's like Tommy Franks.

01:13:52.000 It's going to be generals hate to run martial law and have a new military dictatorship, but we're going to have to.

01:13:59.000 Well, it's basically asking us to throw out the rule of law, because it's basically saying We don't think it's a good idea.

01:14:06.000 We're nice guys.

01:14:07.000 Trust us, we won't do it.

01:14:09.000 But Saddam didn't even... Don't tell us we can't do it. 0.98

01:14:12.000 Saddam didn't even torture people's children in front of them.

01:14:14.000 I mean, even in the wildest propaganda, the neocons spewed about him.

01:14:19.000 That wasn't said, and then they just write memos about it.

01:14:22.000 I mean, this is sick!

01:14:24.000 Well, it's sick.

01:14:25.000 Unfortunately, there are cases.

01:14:27.000 Years ago, I was legal advisor to the UN Truth Commission in El Salvador, and we had Evidence there that one of the torture techniques used in El Salvador, and there are also reports of this in Chile, is to torture people's children, or in some cases their wives.

01:14:42.000 But that isn't Saddam, that's Negroponte's death squads.

01:14:46.000 That's Negroponte's death squads.

01:14:48.000 I don't remember whether there was specifically this involving Saddam, but I'm certainly not going to defend Saddam. 0.98

01:14:54.000 He's a bloody guy.

01:14:55.000 Oh, I understand, but Negroponte's our new head of all intelligence. 0.97

01:14:59.000 I feel much safer now.

01:15:02.000 Well, Negroponte was the United States Ambassador in Honduras during the early 1980s at a time when Honduran death squads were operating, and the official State Department human rights reports on Honduras at the time did not give any indication that the State Department was aware that the government was backing death squads, let alone that American intelligence agents were involved in some of these interviews where people were tortured And then killed.

01:15:31.000 That's not the info I've gotten from our guests and people that were there.

01:15:34.000 Negroponte supposedly was the prime mover on a lot of that.

01:15:39.000 And we know that at the School of America, they trained those very Latin American countries. 0.95

01:15:44.000 I've had Special Forces commanders on here who trained to put electrodes on the genitalia. 0.90

01:15:49.000 Well, that's my point.

01:15:50.000 I'm not saying Negroponte wasn't involved.

01:15:52.000 I'm saying that he was there that the official documents did not disclose what one would have to think is highly likely that he must have known at the time.

01:16:02.000 As far as I know, we don't have any evidence admissible in a court that would prove him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:16:10.000 Regardless, we have this memo by John Yoo.

01:16:14.000 Let's get into that.

01:16:15.000 I mean, but imagine just how, I mean, so describe the scene.

01:16:18.000 You're in there and you're having this discussion, this debate.

01:16:21.000 I mean, describe it for us, Professor.

01:16:23.000 Well, this was a debate on the subject of torture as used against terrorism, sponsored by the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations.

01:16:31.000 It was held on December 1st in Chicago.

01:16:35.000 It was just Professor Yu and me and a moderator on the stage, and basically the questions went back and forth, and one of the questions, as I indicated earlier, was designed by me to see if Professor Yu would take it so far as to say that the President could torture children, and as we've indicated, that was exactly what he said as a matter of law.

01:16:59.000 I'm going to play that clip when we get back, but the Council on Foreign Relations, how many of those guys were in attendance?

01:17:05.000 It was held actually in a club in Chicago, because this is part of their outreach program to younger members.

01:17:11.000 I would say that in the audience, probably 150-200 people.

01:17:16.000 Yeah, because I had read that somehow there were thousands of students watching, and I guess there must be a tape of it that was shown then at a college, because I'm getting conflicting reports here.

01:17:25.000 But okay, so you've got junior CFR members there.

01:17:28.000 I mean, were they disgusted, or did people stand up and go, Yes! 0.99

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01:17:33.000 I mean, what happened? 1.00

01:17:34.000 No, the people who were at the crowd, while they didn't, I don't know that they specifically commented on that, just in general it was clear.

01:17:43.000 that uh... about ninety percent something like that of of the crowd was uh... was uh... opposed to the line of argument but i don't know if it was a and i'm probably opposed to joseph mingola and jeffrey dahmer and ted bundy too i think that might get up to ninety one percent yeah i mean i i mean listen if i was there's money was saying crushed the uh... we can crush children's genitalia i'd say hey get out of here punk you're assuming i i would stand up and yell at him but this was a this was a very polite crowd there was no

01:18:12.000 No transcript being taken.

01:18:14.000 There was no official recording.

01:18:16.000 The recording that's now on the internet was apparently done by someone in the audience whose method of protest was to make sure that what was said actually got out into the internet.

01:18:25.000 Oh, that's right, because a lot of these CFR meetings, they sign non-disclosure agreements.

01:18:30.000 That's right.

01:18:31.000 I didn't know, frankly, that it was a... Sorry, there goes my cell phone.

01:18:34.000 Let me find it.

01:18:35.000 It's okay, Professor.

01:18:36.000 We're going to break and come right back.

01:18:38.000 Okay.

01:18:38.000 I know I'm getting boisterous here.

01:18:40.000 I'm just very upset by this.

01:18:41.000 I mean, we're all in danger, folks.

01:18:43.000 When they're openly saying they can torture children in front of their parents, I mean, we've entered the ninth circle of hell.

01:18:48.000 I mean, we are actually in the presence of Satan right now.

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01:22:48.000 I read several articles about this exchange in Chicago and I didn't even know it was a A CFR branch meeting and I was just talking to the professor during the break.

01:23:14.000 Most of the local CFR meetings are open to the public in Chicago.

01:23:17.000 They just have the secret ones mainly.

01:23:20.000 They're off 24th Street in New York.

01:23:23.000 They're at the Proud House.

01:23:25.000 But, so the professor was telling me during the break, and right before break, he also said on air he was surprised by getting there, and I guess they told him it was off record.

01:23:33.000 Professor, please tell us about that.

01:23:35.000 Well, the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations, which is a formally independent organization from the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, but they cooperate on a lot of matters.

01:23:44.000 I've been to many of their programs, and in my experience, they are generally, not always, but generally open to the public and on the record when you're talking about a large program like this one with about 200 people present.

01:23:58.000 One of the things that we've been doing is When I got to this one I was made to realize, maybe they had told me before and I paid no attention, but I was made to realize that this one was Off the record, in the sense that there was no recording and no transcript being taken of what was being said.

01:24:17.000 And later on, it turned out that someone who was in the audience apparently recorded the debate and has put at least portions of it on the internet.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, we've got that up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:24:29.000 We'll play that coming up in the next segment.

01:24:30.000 And we're going to have Kevin Smith, who got video, we put it on TV locally, where they had an official CFR meeting, but it was public as well.

01:24:38.000 And where they said things just as amazing as what we've caught on tape here.

01:24:42.000 But, Professor, getting into the psychology, I mean, you study this.

01:24:45.000 You've been an advocate for human rights and people's liberties for a long time.

01:24:50.000 I've done some research on you, and what you've done is admirable.

01:24:53.000 Did this even shock you?

01:24:54.000 I mean, I know you've read the memo that they'd penned, but to actually hear him go, yeah, we can do that.

01:25:00.000 Well, I was shocked when I first read this August 2002 memo, which I first read when it became public for the first time after Abu Ghraib in about June of 2004.

01:25:11.000 I was shocked then because I never thought, as a human rights lawyer who goes around the world trying to do what we can to prevent and to punish people who commit torture, I never thought that I would have to be debating in my own country.

01:25:28.000 uh... the idea that it's okay for the president to authorize torture uh... so that the shock for me really came back in two thousand four when it became obvious on reading this memo that uh... torture at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere was not merely a matter of some low-level uh... soldier or prison guard going going haywire but was a matter of high-level Official policy.

01:25:51.000 Yeah, the memos went out to the Pentagon and they gave it to the officers and they had the private wings, and we interviewed Janice Karpinski, who wouldn't play ball with them, she wasn't even allowed in those wings of the prisons, and they tried to blame her for something she hadn't done when she didn't go along with it. 0.93

01:26:04.000 They made her the fall girl.

01:26:06.000 The August 2002 memo, which by the way has now been officially revoked by the Justice Department after it became public and became very embarrassing.

01:26:14.000 But we got this big lawyer who works for them still defending it.

01:26:18.000 Well, not only is this lawyer who worked for them, he's now out of government and a professor is still defending it, but when they revoked it, they reissued a new memo in December of 2004.

01:26:30.000 But that new memo did not withdraw all the claims made in the August 2002 memo, and one of the claims it did not withdraw was the very wanted issue here.

01:26:40.000 And now Steve Bybee, he is now a federal judge, right?

01:26:43.000 Steven Bybee, who was then an official in the Justice Department, was since elevated to the federal bench by nomination of... And so they're stacking the executive agencies and the judiciary with these ghouls.

01:26:59.000 Well, I don't know Mr. Bivey, so I don't know whether I would call him a ghoul.

01:27:04.000 Well, you said he signed off on used... He signed off on used memo.

01:27:09.000 To be fair to Mr. Bivey, he was not present at the exchange about crushing children's testicles, and I hope he would recoil at the suggestion that that would be... 0.97

01:27:20.000 Well, we can say Alberto Gonzalez is a ghoul, saying they can torture people to death and then not call it torture. 0.97

01:27:26.000 I mean, we know he's the Attorney General. 0.81

01:27:28.000 I mean, are they not stacking the courts with their ghouls?

01:27:31.000 They are stacking the courts and the executive branch agencies, unfortunately, with people like John Yoo and many others of his persuasion.

01:27:43.000 Who believe that the country is so threatened by terrorists and other menaces to our national security that the necessary response to that, they say, is to throw the rule book out the window and to essentially say to the courts, hands off, the president, the commander-in-chief, he can do whatever he deems Necessary.

01:28:05.000 The courts can't interfere.

01:28:06.000 Well, I've even got a clip of Specter, who they push to get appointed as the head of the Judiciary Committee in the Senate.

01:28:12.000 Their boy, Mr. Magic Bullet.

01:28:14.000 We played it a few days ago, going, well, I'm kind of upset, but the president may have this executive power.

01:28:19.000 Of course he's going to say in his hearing next week or two weeks from now, he's got this power.

01:28:24.000 I mean, we're just in deep trouble.

01:28:26.000 I mean, they're throwing down the gauntlet.

01:28:27.000 Professor, stay with us.

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01:32:06.000 All right, our final segment with the professor.

01:32:09.000 Professor, we've only got 10-15 minutes left with you here or less.

01:32:14.000 Before we let Kevin Smith get in here and talk a little bit about some of the things he's witnessed and play this little two-minute clip that was ferried out of the secret CFR meeting up there that you were there debating this pig demon at I'm sorry, that's my term.

01:32:29.000 They deserve it. 0.95

01:32:29.000 I mean, I would call Joseph Mingala a pig demon. 0.95

01:32:32.000 That's just my own little term I like to use that describes these creatures. 0.90

01:32:35.000 That's just kind of what I see them as.

01:32:38.000 But to be really serious here, any other key points that you think people need to know that you haven't had a chance to make?

01:32:43.000 Any websites we should visit to see any of your writings or any of the things that you're fighting right now?

01:32:49.000 Well, one key point is that, as many people may know, with the leadership of Senator John McCain and a number of others, Congress passed a law in late 2005 that said that torture is just completely illegal.

01:33:06.000 No agent of the U.S.

01:33:07.000 government can conduct torture anywhere, anytime, for any reason.

01:33:12.000 When the President signed that bill, which he signed only because it was passed in both houses with an overwhelming veto-proof majority... He declared an imaginary power and said, I don't have to follow this.

01:33:23.000 He basically said, I am signing this subject to my powers as Commander-in-Chief.

01:33:29.000 So as recently as late last year, just a month or two ago, the President is continuing to maintain the same legal theory that John Yoo And Stephen Bybee put into that memo back in August of 2002.

01:33:44.000 But Professor Castle, I have the Article 2, Section 2, and it clearly says that he's only the Commander-in-Chief when Congress declares war and specifically funds him with a specific job, and that he must abide by the Constitution, but that's the complete opposite.

01:34:01.000 He claims that it literally makes him God-Emperor.

01:34:04.000 Well, and that's the theory of Professor Yu that has now become accepted, apparently, by the Bush administration.

01:34:11.000 And when that theory is taken to its extreme, there is no limit.

01:34:15.000 And that was exactly the point of that question in Chicago.

01:34:18.000 According to these guys, there are simply no legal limits on the President.

01:34:23.000 That is not the rule of law.

01:34:24.000 That's not what our Constitution was intended to establish.

01:34:28.000 Well, I mean, listen, martial law, total control, tyrannies, so they can bid-brig and war profiteer and just do it all right out in front of us, and so, you know, that congressman in California won't go to jail in the future for stealing $800 million.

01:34:40.000 It's no big deal.

01:34:41.000 I mean, literally, to fake to a fake post office box.

01:34:45.000 If they're Supreme Rulers, they can do whatever they want, and they're actually openly declaring that power.

01:34:49.000 I mean, Bush said things would be a heck of a lot easier if this was a dictatorship.

01:34:54.000 In fact, guys, find that clip.

01:34:55.000 It's in a computer.

01:34:56.000 If this was a dictatorship, so long as I'm a dictator, and that's now what they're declaring.

01:35:02.000 Do you disagree with that statement, Professor?

01:35:04.000 No, but what they also declare is, trust us.

01:35:07.000 We're nice guys.

01:35:08.000 We're reasonable people.

01:35:10.000 We're just trying to do what's right for the country. 0.98

01:35:12.000 And the problem with their message is they don't come out of the closet as, as you say, pig demons. 0.91

01:35:19.000 They present themselves as reasonable people just presenting a particular constitutional interpretation. 0.82

01:35:25.000 That is a seductive approach.

01:35:28.000 It's one that is capable, unfortunately, of misleading many Americans into thinking, well, this guy's not so bad.

01:35:35.000 But the problem is once you remove any constitutional or legal constraint on the president to Even go so far as to torture children in the opinion of Professor Yu, then the sky's the limit.

01:35:47.000 There's no law, there's no Congress, there's no court, there's no international treaty to stop them.

01:35:54.000 They've got to come out public and say it to legitimize it if they're planning to use it.

01:36:00.000 And all the preparations we're seeing, I mean, my friend, I've been to urban warfare drills where U.S.

01:36:04.000 military is trying to take over America, and they admit it! 0.98

01:36:08.000 So, and they're openly saying, get rid of Posse Comitatus, they've got these TSA Viper teams now right here in Texas just randomly surrounding buildings and just searching everyone, and they say it's just random?

01:36:21.000 I mean, this is getting scary!

01:36:23.000 Well, again, my point is, They have already done some things, but what worries me more than anything else is that once they tear down the rule of law, once they remove any legal or institutional constraint on what they want to do, then we have to worry about how far they can go in the future.

01:36:40.000 They're already doing it in some cases, but if this theory is allowed to stand, we have no protection.

01:36:47.000 Go ahead, did you say you had that dictator clip?

01:36:49.000 Go ahead and roll it.

01:36:52.000 But that's okay.

01:36:54.000 If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier.

01:36:58.000 Just so long as I'm the dictator.

01:37:02.000 And folks, remember, I've been a Republican right out of high school.

01:37:06.000 I am a conservative.

01:37:07.000 I'm pro-gun.

01:37:07.000 Everything, folks.

01:37:08.000 I'm telling you, George Bush is about as conservative as the Tooth Fairy.

01:37:13.000 I want to bring in Kevin Smith.

01:37:14.000 Kevin goes to a lot of these meetings, tracks a lot of this.

01:37:18.000 Kevin, you went to two series, the War on Terror series and the quote, New World Order series.

01:37:22.000 And just quickly for the professor, because he wasn't there, perhaps you can get in contact with him in sending this other video or whoever's getting this secret tape out.

01:37:29.000 We're going to play it in a minute.

01:37:31.000 But I mean, tell him what we've got on tape with the former CIA Director and Professor Lino Graglia.

01:37:37.000 Professor Castle, it's good to speak with you today.

01:37:39.000 Thank you.

01:37:40.000 Let me set this a little bit.

01:37:41.000 This was the first day of the war back in March of 2003 while the liberal college professors were battling the riot cops down in downtown Austin.

01:37:51.000 I took it upon myself and a few other people to go to a lecture that night by Anne Marie Slaughter.

01:37:58.000 She is the Dean of The Woodrow Wilson School of International Policy study at Princeton in the name of her lecture and I have the handout was a new world order and I got there a little late after they had said you're not allowed to film this we came in and filmed it and we got Professor Leo Graglia, Philip Bobbitt, a number of people were pretty put out by it.

01:38:19.000 But there was maybe 250, 300 people at this event.

01:38:22.000 So they were having a three-day festival, lavishing Philip Bobbitt over his new book, Shield of Achilles, where he had actually predicted events such as 9-11.

01:38:32.000 And there was a Saturday luncheon lecture, and I thought, I'm going to go to this, I'm going to get there before them, I'm going to be set up, and I'm going to confront them for what they're doing and bring up Brzezinski's book and all those things.

01:38:43.000 And I got to it, and it was a luncheon lecture, and there was only 15 people there.

01:38:48.000 And I thought, different tact.

01:38:50.000 I'll go in there and ask them if I can film it.

01:38:51.000 They let me.

01:38:52.000 I sat at the big board table directly across from Woolsey.

01:38:55.000 But tell them what happened, Kevin.

01:38:57.000 So in this meeting, and it's scary that the moderate in the room was Woolsey, but there's Professor Leo Graglia, there's Professor Philip Bobbitt, there's Harold Prince, I believe Bobby Inman was there, Ann Marie Slaughter.

01:39:00.000 And it's scary that the moderate in the room was Woolsey, but there's Professor Leo Graglia, there's Professor Philip Bobbitt, there's Harold Prince, I believe Bobby Inman was there, Anne-Marie Slaughter.

01:39:11.000 And these arguments they were having, Graglia was chastising Woolsey for a dinner lecture.

01:39:12.000 and these arguments they were having they were they were uh...

01:39:18.000 He said, well, the Nisai camps were concentration camps.

01:39:21.000 And Graglia was so put out and said, no, they weren't.

01:39:23.000 We can't say that.

01:39:24.000 We've got to promote it better.

01:39:26.000 And they were arguing.

01:39:28.000 He says, well, they were concentration camps.

01:39:30.000 And finally Graglia starts pounding his fist on the table. 1.00

01:39:33.000 I want all Muslims in camps just slobbering. 1.00

01:39:37.000 You've got to see the crazy look in their eyes, Alex. 0.99

01:39:39.000 And then they start dripping and smacking their lips and Woolsey looking like some little conehead, a Martian, rubbing his little hands together with those big hypnotic eyes going, ah, World War IV is coming, we will win, oh, uproading. 0.61

01:39:56.000 Professor, comments on that?

01:39:58.000 Well, you're always going to have, obviously I wasn't there and don't know who said what, but you're always going to have people in or close to governments.

01:40:08.000 Who, for reasons that they think are in good faith and well-meaning, are going to propose things like concentration camps and torture.

01:40:16.000 You're never going to get rid of that.

01:40:17.000 What you need, however, are independent courts with clear laws and constitutional principles and international treaties so that some independent check can be imposed on the inevitable excesses of people in and close to the executive branch.

01:40:33.000 So once again, my answer is, it's good that if they're going to say these things that they can be recorded and brought out to the open, but what we need are courts who can stop them.

01:40:44.000 And what worries me about the nomination of Judge Alito to the Supreme Court is that there's nothing... He's another one that wrote in memos that the executive is God Emperor.

01:40:56.000 Well, his memos are a bit ambiguous.

01:40:59.000 If you look at what he wrote about the so-called unitary executive, He is there using a phrase which is also used by the John Hughes of the world, but he did not spell out what he meant by it.

01:41:09.000 Well, I read on air some of the quotes out of memos.

01:41:12.000 I mean, certainly there's a diverse body.

01:41:15.000 I mean, he said in front of the Senate last week that he doesn't believe in a Supreme Presidency, but we do have memos that contradict that.

01:41:21.000 I mean, they're not pushing him forward unless he's for that.

01:41:25.000 Well, he's been very careful about what he has said, particularly in the confirmation hearings, but my point about Alito is that we are at a time in our history when you have things being said, such as Kevin Smith just referred to, and such as John, you put in that memo from the Justice Department.

01:41:42.000 We're at a point in our history where we need Supreme Court Justices who know how to stand up and put up a stop sign. 1.00

01:41:51.000 And while I suspect that Alito would go along with what the White House is proposing, what is clear, and beyond any doubt to me, is that we have no evidence that he is the kind of person that we need.

01:42:07.000 It's not enough to say, well, we haven't caught him with a smoking gun.

01:42:10.000 We ought to be saying, unless you can show me a Supreme Court Justice who's prepared to stand up to these guys, that version should not be confirmed.

01:42:18.000 Exactly.

01:42:19.000 It's almost worse to not know what you're getting than just kind of draw a card out of the deck randomly.

01:42:24.000 Well, he's not random, but he's sort of a stealth candidate.

01:42:29.000 No, I know that, but I'm saying, for the American people, all we have is this PR machine.

01:42:33.000 But listen, let's say Republicans love George Bush and want him to be dictator, and I've heard him say that.

01:42:38.000 Hey, what's wrong with the dictatorship?

01:42:39.000 He's a good conservative who's spent more money than all presidents before him combined.

01:42:44.000 Who's appointing anti-gun judges everywhere.

01:42:46.000 He's very conservative and wants open borders.

01:42:47.000 A very conservative professor.

01:42:50.000 Just wonderfully conservative.

01:42:52.000 But what about when there's a Hillary Clinton in office? 0.98

01:42:54.000 What about ten years from now when there's somebody else?

01:42:58.000 I mean, let's say Bush is a little angel.

01:43:00.000 Still, it's our form of government.

01:43:02.000 We're America because we have this Bill of Rights and Constitution.

01:43:06.000 And that's really what is summed up in the phrase that we need a government of laws and not of men, or nowadays we would say of men and women.

01:43:13.000 Your point is exactly right that whether you like whoever is in office today or not, Somebody else may be in office tomorrow, and if there are no limits on what that person can do, sooner or later we will come to regret it.

01:43:25.000 Well, the Democrats are now saying that this is the administration of corruption, and it's true.

01:43:31.000 I mean, Bush could come in and say, we're going to be the uncorrupt, the upstanding administration.

01:43:36.000 You talk about double-think, double-speak.

01:43:39.000 I mean, it's the complete opposite, just the level.

01:43:42.000 No one's ever gotten away with this much open stealing.

01:43:45.000 I mean, the Vice President running the Halliburton contracts?

01:43:49.000 Uh, out of the Vice President's office.

01:43:51.000 Meanwhile, his wife's on the Lockheed Martin board while he's giving her contracts.

01:43:55.000 I mean, that is just patently, on its surface, illegal.

01:43:59.000 Well, it is, of course, illegal, and there are many more things that they're doing that are not illegal.

01:44:04.000 We've got an election system right now which is built on money, and most of the campaign contributions on which candidates rely are legal.

01:44:14.000 So, that's obviously another whole subject, but to me, the problem of American democracy now being beholden to people who have enough money and corporations that have enough money to pay for it is part of the problem that leads us to this place in the first place.

01:44:29.000 We're going to let you go here in just a minute or two, but I want to get your take, just any final comments after we play this clip.

01:44:34.000 Let's go ahead and roll that clip from back in December, and this just came out last week because the audio got loaded onto the web and then got picked up by the news, of John Yoo.

01:44:44.000 It's one thing to have his memo.

01:44:46.000 saying they can do this to children in front of their parents.

01:44:47.000 It's another thing to have him when he's confronted by Professor Castle, who's on line with us right now from Notre Dame, to then say, yeah, there's no treaty, yeah, the president, if he wants to, can do that.

01:44:58.000 So go ahead and roll that clip. 0.96

01:45:00.000 If the president deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop that. 0.99

01:45:09.000 No treaty. 0.98

01:45:11.000 And also no law by Congress.

01:45:13.000 That's what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

01:45:15.000 I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

01:45:21.000 So, there is the clip.

01:45:24.000 Now the same crowd that's been congenital liars keeps saying, nukes, nukes, nukes, when remove the seals, remove the seals, Professor, when the seals are peaceful areas for peaceful nuclear power.

01:45:39.000 That's admitted by all the engineers and the experts, but the media is acting like we're about to be nuked any minute by Iran.

01:45:45.000 In closing, give us your take on the whole PNAC, New American Century empire.

01:45:51.000 Well, I don't think I can do that in a quick closing phrase, but let me clarify that.

01:45:56.000 Last answer by John Yoo, he said he thinks it depends on what the President's purpose is.

01:46:00.000 What he meant by that, what was clear from his writings, is that his position, if the President's purpose is to, in effect, prosecute a war, the President can do whatever he wants.

01:46:11.000 If the President's purpose were just to be vindictive or something like that, of course he could not.

01:46:16.000 So the answer was a little ambiguous, but essentially it says the President's war powers give him carte blanche.

01:46:22.000 That is not something that Americans, Republican, Democrat, or otherwise... But that is nowhere in precedent other than Lincoln arresting his political enemies.

01:46:35.000 But that is light years away from torturing small children in front of their parents.

01:46:42.000 Well, that's right, and this is one of those areas where you don't need precedent.

01:46:45.000 If you get someone who says that that kind of thing is lawful, then in my view, that is just so far off the charts of any good constitutional judgment.

01:46:57.000 That we need, again, to stand up and to make sure we have Supreme Court Justices who will stand up and put a stop to it.

01:47:02.000 We only have 60 seconds left with our guest.

01:47:04.000 Kevin, any final comments or questions for him?

01:47:06.000 Yeah, Professor Castle, one last thing.

01:47:09.000 During that meeting, Ann Marie Slaughter at one point said, well, this is two days into the war, mind you.

01:47:13.000 She said, now we can't let the American people know that Iraq will simply be a base of operations for permanent bases to then launch attacks on Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia.

01:47:23.000 And at the end of the program, I got to ask a question.

01:47:25.000 I said, You know, how many millions of people are you planning on killing in this World War IV?

01:47:30.000 And they looked at me like, that's not even a consideration.

01:47:32.000 So we, the American public, judge these success or not by the number of our dead.

01:47:37.000 That's not how they factor these things.

01:47:39.000 Oh, exactly.

01:47:39.000 I forgot that point, Professor.

01:47:41.000 They were openly saying what's in the PNAC document cynically.

01:47:45.000 They say we can't let them know because they know the average person isn't going to go to their little meeting.

01:47:52.000 We want your point of view on the whole war situation, in closing.

01:47:57.000 Well, first of all, the war in Iraq is, in my judgment, a violation of international law, and indeed it fits within the definition of a crime against peace as defined at Nuremberg.

01:48:11.000 Secondly, the so-called war against terrorism does not qualify as a war Under international law, it could be referred to as a war in the same sense as the war on drugs or the war on poverty.

01:48:22.000 It's a nebulous witch hunt.

01:48:25.000 A rhetorical device.

01:48:27.000 But the problem with using that language loosely is that the president then decides to say, well, all of the powers that I would have in a legal, recognized war, I can now exercise in this so-called war against terrorism.

01:48:43.000 And I can treat any individual that I identify anywhere in the world, whether or not he or she is an American citizen, whether or not they're in the United States, I can, on the basis of secret intelligence information, identify that person as a quote, unlawful enemy combatants. 0.91

01:49:00.000 Yeah, persons of interest, and you disappear into a black site where some pig demon from the Cold War is torturing you. 0.71

01:49:07.000 I mean, this is, again, science fiction bizarre.

01:49:09.000 Professor, we're going to let you go, but in ten seconds, do you think they're going to fail?

01:49:13.000 Do you think they're going to go down?

01:49:14.000 Or will they get the primultimate, real Nazi Germany-type control?

01:49:19.000 Are we all going to camps?

01:49:20.000 I think how far they can go depends on how many Americans get informed about what they're trying to do and try to put a stop to it.

01:49:27.000 But, I mean, where do you see the brakes?

01:49:30.000 I mean, do you see them failing?

01:49:31.000 I see them failing.

01:49:33.000 I see radio shows like yours and programs that raise these issues as the best defense we have.

01:49:39.000 So you're not even sure we're going to make it?

01:49:41.000 I'm an optimist by nature, but I want to emphasize that Success doesn't come easily, it doesn't come automatically.

01:49:48.000 So we're fighting for our lives.

01:49:50.000 We're fighting for our lives.

01:49:51.000 Take care, Professor.

01:49:52.000 Thank you.

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01:53:02.000 We're talking about 9-11, coming up in the next segment.

01:53:06.000 Take some calls right now.

01:53:09.000 Uh, listen.

01:53:11.000 You just heard another top professor, international human rights lawyer, on the air with us saying we may all be going to concentration camps and it may be Nazi Germany.

01:53:20.000 I mean, see folks, this isn't a joke or a game.

01:53:23.000 I mean, they're up there declaring that they're dictators.

01:53:25.000 They got top generals saying, well, it's what's coming next.

01:53:28.000 They're gearing us all up for it, and if we all go along with it, then stuff gets bad.

01:53:33.000 See, they want the police state to take your pension funds to rape you financially. 0.99

01:53:39.000 They have to have it in place to really get control.

01:53:42.000 It's not enough to loot trillions out of the Pentagon trust funds and to do all this.

01:53:46.000 Now they want even more. 0.98

01:53:47.000 I mean, that's why they're pig demons. 1.00

01:53:49.000 They're big, evil, fat, slobbering creatures that just want it all and they want it now and they're going to get it. 1.00

01:53:58.000 And Bush is a puppet. 0.99

01:54:00.000 They're front men for this financial interest and this is for all the marbles.

01:54:04.000 We are fighting for our lives.

01:54:06.000 Do you understand?

01:54:07.000 This is not a joke.

01:54:08.000 This is not a game.

01:54:09.000 This is not a drill.

01:54:11.000 We have got to move forward.

01:54:15.000 What hard is a term people are using on the internet?

01:54:18.000 Our listeners are.

01:54:19.000 Information drive-by.

01:54:21.000 Go to the chat rooms.

01:54:22.000 Go to the message boards.

01:54:23.000 Call the talk shows.

01:54:24.000 Put up websites.

01:54:25.000 You know, just spray the info.

01:54:27.000 Fire and forget.

01:54:28.000 I mean, we're telling the truth.

01:54:29.000 We got the facts.

01:54:30.000 And believe me, our view is becoming the majority view.

01:54:32.000 We are waking people up.

01:54:35.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Paula in Florida, then James, Thomas, Alex, and others.

01:54:39.000 Go ahead, Paula.

01:54:40.000 Hi, Alex.

01:54:42.000 I'll tell you what, hon, you're awesome.

01:54:44.000 You're right about this. 0.98

01:54:45.000 These people are so sick.

01:54:47.000 I read the book that Tex Mars wrote, and I'll tell you what, it just totally depressed me. 0.93

01:54:52.000 I mean, I was so angry and so down.

01:54:54.000 You're talking about Codex Magickum?

01:54:56.000 Yeah.

01:54:56.000 Now, we carry that.

01:54:57.000 Yeah, in the circle of intrigue.

01:54:59.000 Yes.

01:54:59.000 And it had the list of everybody that belongs to this.

01:55:01.000 Yes.

01:55:02.000 And they said in there that because of who they are, they're from the House of David, they think they have the right to control everybody and everything. 0.98

01:55:10.000 And I tell you what, they're about as sick as they can get. 0.99

01:55:12.000 They are, and they're usurpers. 1.00

01:55:14.000 They're false parasites. 1.00

01:55:15.000 I appreciate your call. 0.99

01:55:18.000 Let's go ahead and talk to James in Maryland.

01:55:21.000 James, go ahead.

01:55:21.000 You're on the air.

01:55:23.000 Hello, it's Jason.

01:55:24.000 Okay, Jason, go ahead.

01:55:27.000 First, I got something I want to say, but I want to address first the people that keep calling in and giving you a ration of stuff about some fabricated story.

01:55:38.000 Do you people understand that your house is burning down?

01:55:42.000 Why are you attacking a Patriot?

01:55:44.000 I know, I mean, we've got all these government people on admitting that they're building camps and the country's going down and somebody's going, Alex, you're bad because you sell videos.

01:55:52.000 Well, what am I supposed to do?

01:55:54.000 Do a radio show with a tin can out on the side of the street?

01:55:57.000 Well, the thing is, if these people would take the time to check the facts that you put on the air and document what you say and find that it's true, it really doesn't matter.

01:56:09.000 Look, this is a psychological thing, Jason.

01:56:12.000 A lot of people, the government puts out its disinfo, their COINTELPRO ops put it out, on anybody who's successfully fighting them, and then the little minions, they know a psychological type out there is going to pick up on it, who's so upset by the information, they don't want to face it, so they attack the messenger.

01:56:31.000 And so that's all it is.

01:56:33.000 It doesn't bother me, except that it just, it's just you can always hear it in their voice.

01:56:37.000 You know what they're going to say.

01:56:38.000 You know what they're going to do.

01:56:40.000 And you know they're just going to run down a line of disinfo.

01:56:44.000 Well, it does bother me because you have to take a half an hour or an hour a week and answer some foolishness just so that you can retain the listeners that you've got.

01:56:52.000 Oh, so you've heard how I have to answer the same question and they don't want an answer.

01:56:56.000 They don't want an easily verifiable answer.

01:57:00.000 They don't know how to judge a tree by its fruit, either.

01:57:03.000 Actually, the reason that I called in that's a side issue, but it's important enough to... Go ahead and throw out your comment.

01:57:08.000 Go ahead.

01:57:08.000 It's actually, with PsyOps, exactly what we're speaking about, but I wanted to know your opinion about the subliminal part of that and how prevalent you think that is.

01:57:21.000 Subliminal what?

01:57:22.000 In diopts?

01:57:23.000 Yes, in media specifically.

01:57:25.000 Sure, sure.

01:57:26.000 I'll comment on that when we get back.

01:57:27.000 Thanks for the call.

01:57:28.000 More calls coming up.

01:57:29.000 We'll get Dylan Avery on at the 8 after.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are now in...

01:58:11.000 to hour number three on this live Thursday edition, the 19th day of January, 2006.

01:58:19.000 And for the next hour, we're going to be joined by somebody who didn't sit there and suck their thumb and whine and roll around in a fetal position like, no, somebody who actually got involved, engaged the New World Order at point-blank range, and has now had TV stations covering the film, and has now had TV stations covering the film, thousands and tens of thousands watching it online, thousands buying it, having a big effect.

01:58:43.000 They did loose change one, now they've done loose change two.

01:58:45.000 It's even better.

01:58:47.000 In fact, we're carrying it here at Infowars.com.

01:58:49.000 He's Dylan Avery, and early in this hour, I know we've had callers holding for a while.

01:58:53.000 We'll go to Thomas and Alex and Mike and others that have been patiently holding a toll-free number to join us, But this is a little bit different of a 9-11 film from some of the others I've seen, different from mine.

01:59:07.000 It's excellent.

01:59:08.000 It's a different perspective.

01:59:09.000 Just asking the key questions, question after question.

01:59:12.000 Well, what about this?

01:59:13.000 What about that? 0.96

01:59:14.000 And then it answers the question for you if you've got a brain.

01:59:19.000 And so I think it's very effective and folks should get it.

01:59:21.000 We're very, very honored.

01:59:22.000 You know, Dylan is very gracious too.

01:59:23.000 He let us post Loose Change 1 at PrisonPlanet.tv and we put a link over to him where you can get it.

01:59:28.000 But now we're now carrying Loose Change 2 and hopefully he'll let us put that up on PrisonPlanet.tv.

01:59:34.000 Dylan, thank you for joining us.

01:59:36.000 Yeah, thanks for having me on, Alex.

01:59:38.000 It's good to be on.

01:59:39.000 You bet.

01:59:39.000 You know, you're just another success story.

01:59:41.000 I had David Stahl on, who's a city manager, a retired police officer, but a city councilman, and he discovered the toll road tracking grid.

01:59:49.000 He went public, and now it looks like we may be able to beat it, at least with the majority of counties are joining us to say no to it.

01:59:56.000 And you and a couple college students got together, did the research.

01:59:59.000 You went off other, you know, documented research, did your own, and have done something very effective.

02:00:04.000 You're affecting change.

02:00:06.000 Well, I'm doing my best.

02:00:08.000 Tell us about yourself before we get into the film and 9-11 and what you think is most important about it and take some calls on a host of issues, but tell us about your awakening.

02:00:15.000 What woke you up?

02:00:16.000 Why did you decide to do this?

02:00:17.000 What was it like?

02:00:19.000 Well, it was about three years ago in May 2002.

02:00:22.000 I was building a restaurant that was basically funded by James Gandolfini, who plays Tony Soprano on the HBO series Sopranos.

02:00:29.000 And in May 2002, he came up for the opening party.

02:00:31.000 I had a chance to speak with him after the party and I I was thinking about getting into the whole film industry, acting, directing, figuring out what I wanted to do, and I approached him at like three in the morning, and I was like, Jim, I just had a quick question.

02:00:45.000 Is this whole acting thing worth it?

02:00:47.000 And is it worth it?

02:00:48.000 And he was like, well, not really, kid.

02:00:50.000 So I was like, okay, well, how about directing?

02:00:53.000 He's like, well, if you want to be a successful director, then you have to have something that you want to say to the world.

02:00:59.000 So, it was not... I mean, that night I started... That's good advice!

02:01:03.000 You just gotta do it!

02:01:04.000 It doesn't even have to be perfect.

02:01:05.000 What, you've done a great job, though, in the first thing you did.

02:01:08.000 But, I mean, instead of just talking, and all these trendies prance around, have lots of film meetings, and that's not how you do it.

02:01:14.000 You just do it!

02:01:16.000 Yeah, well, like I said, man, I'm just a kid doing what I feel in my heart I need to do.

02:01:20.000 Well, you're not a kid at 23, right?

02:01:23.000 I mean, we had a lot of founding fathers that were that age.

02:01:27.000 That's right, they were young, I forgot.

02:01:28.000 No, you're not a kid.

02:01:30.000 They tell us that we're kids until we're 30 now, so we never realize we're men when we're 13, 14.

02:01:34.000 Well, I'm still growing, so I can't say I'm a man yet, but I'm on my way.

02:01:39.000 I say you're a man.

02:01:40.000 A man who has beliefs, a man who gets involved, a man who takes action.

02:01:43.000 I just, I don't, and you're doing a great job there, Dylan.

02:01:48.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

02:01:49.000 I really appreciate it.

02:01:49.000 You bet.

02:01:50.000 So he told you, this is riveting, he told you just have something you believe in and get involved.

02:01:55.000 Yeah, just have something to say and stand behind it.

02:01:57.000 So, I took a couple different ideas that I've been toying with in the past and characters and kind of threw them all together and started writing a feature film script, which eventually turned into Loose Change the Movie, which was a semi-fictional story about me and my friends finding out that September 11th was basically an inside job.

02:02:16.000 And... commercial break?

02:02:18.000 That is a commercial break.

02:02:20.000 When we get back, we'll hear more about this.

02:02:22.000 Tell you, that's a seminal event.

02:02:26.000 It was never even conscious of myself.

02:02:28.000 I mean, I just was sick of all the lies and what was happening to our country 12 years ago.

02:02:33.000 And so I just said, you know what?

02:02:34.000 I'm going to get involved.

02:02:36.000 And here we are today.

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02:05:56.000 Some film students, college students, got together, put it together.

02:05:58.000 It's excellent.

02:05:59.000 We're carrying it at Infowars.com.

02:06:02.000 September 11th was not a surprise attack on America, but rather a cold and calculated genocide by our own government?

02:06:11.000 What if?

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02:06:18.000 We were told that the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 777.

02:06:22.000 We were told that the Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

02:06:26.000 We were told that 19 Arabs from halfway across the globe, acting under the orders from Osama Bin Laden, were responsible.

02:06:35.000 What you will see inside will prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that everything you know about 9-11 is a complete fabrication.

02:06:44.000 Conspiracy theory?

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02:06:47.000 And that's a louder than words production loose change second edition written and directed by Dylan Avery produced by Corey Rowe and of course There's a lot of other great folks involved in this and we carry it again at Infowars.com right now you get yourself a hard copy of it Dylan you were talking about how back in 2002

02:07:10.000 You are working at a local restaurant, building a local restaurant for the star of The Sopranos there in your town, and then you go talk to the head guy and you say, like, three in the morning, hey, what do I do to get involved and break into acting?

02:07:23.000 I'm just recapping for those who didn't hear it in the last segment.

02:07:26.000 And he goes, yeah, it's not worth it.

02:07:28.000 You go, what about directing?

02:07:29.000 He says, have something you believe in, stand behind it.

02:07:32.000 And then you were already, I guess, kind of waking up to 9-11, and first it was going to be fiction, or quasi, kind of docudrama, then you decided to make a doc, because obviously that's easier, you know, not setting your sights too high for your first project, and you did a great job on Loose Change 1, now Loose Change 2, but I want to get also into 9-11.

02:07:50.000 I mean, when did you start to wake up to 9-11?

02:07:54.000 Well, I guess I subconsciously knew that something was wrong with the official story because in the first maybe 10, 20 pages I started touching upon it.

02:08:02.000 And when I started really researching 9-11, I came across, I believe it was two, two key websites.

02:08:09.000 It was Serendipity's World Trade Center and the so-called War on Terror, I believe, and the Blake Puppy Archive.

02:08:17.000 And a lot of people were posting videos of the collapses and just pointing things out.

02:08:21.000 And it was at that point that I really started to realize that Maybe what I was writing wasn't so much fiction as it was reality.

02:08:30.000 And you basically hit the nail on the head, Alex.

02:08:33.000 I had too much information to put into an actual feature-length film, so I split it off and basically made Loose Change the documentary.

02:08:42.000 And people ask me all the time, where'd you get the title, Loose Change?

02:08:45.000 You know, why Loose Change?

02:08:45.000 It makes no sense whatsoever.

02:08:47.000 It's like, well, the reason the documentary is called that is because of the movie that it all started from.

02:08:52.000 And if all goes according to plan, we'll be shooting Loose Change the movie this year.

02:08:57.000 Well, I think, you know, the term loose change, it just makes you think of unanswered questions or loose things, you know, parts of things that are just wrong or parts of things that are jingling around in your pocket.

02:09:11.000 Yeah, I think it's interesting.

02:09:12.000 People hear loose change and they automatically think of money.

02:09:15.000 Well, I think that's obviously what we're... So loose change in the film is going to mean something different?

02:09:22.000 No, it's the same meaning.

02:09:23.000 It means lose change.

02:09:25.000 This is what has to happen and we're doing our part.

02:09:29.000 So really it's a way of saying unanswered questions.

02:09:31.000 Things that are still running wild out there.

02:09:34.000 Yeah, things that have to be done if we want to change this country.

02:09:38.000 Well that's certainly true.

02:09:39.000 Now this second edition, why don't you tell folks what it goes through and describe it for them.

02:09:47.000 The main chapters of the film are, as you described earlier, the opening timeline of the movie, which replaced the whole pod-slash-missile thing from Loose Change 1.

02:09:58.000 Loose Change 2nd edition opens up with an opening timeline.

02:10:01.000 The majority of the research I used was from Killtown's website.

02:10:06.000 I'm sure a lot of people are familiar with Killtown.

02:10:08.000 He's an amazing, amazing 9-11 researcher.

02:10:10.000 If you haven't seen his site, you should definitely check it out.

02:10:14.000 And basically, I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought there.

02:10:20.000 I understand that you're also on cell phone.

02:10:22.000 This is kind of a short notice interview, so you're kind of out on the job while doing this interview.

02:10:28.000 We're going to take some calls coming up in a few minutes, but tell me about the team that made these two documentaries, because they're both excellent, but Loose Change 2, obviously, I think is a lot better.

02:10:40.000 I mean, how long it took you to do it, how you did your research, what you decided to cover?

02:10:46.000 Uh, I tried to stick to the main key points that I could prove, basically.

02:10:50.000 Because, I mean, there's a lot of... There's so much about 9-11.

02:10:53.000 You cannot put everything about 9-11 into a single documentary.

02:10:56.000 You're not going to make a 9-11 documentary that makes everybody happy.

02:11:00.000 Because everybody believes that, you know, this piece is important and this piece... Exactly!

02:11:04.000 I've made three films about it, written a book, published a book, done hundreds of radio shows and thousands of interviews about it.

02:11:10.000 Exactly.

02:11:11.000 Why didn't you put in this?

02:11:12.000 And why didn't you put in John O'Neill?

02:11:14.000 I can't include everything.

02:11:17.000 But again, there's those people who've never gotten off the bench, don't even understand what video editing software is, and they just go, why didn't you make it like this?

02:11:30.000 So I would just ignore that type of stuff.

02:11:33.000 I mean, that's routine.

02:11:34.000 Armchair quarterbacks who've never been on the field going, why didn't he make that pass?

02:11:40.000 Yeah, I hear you, man.

02:11:41.000 I mean, like I said, I tried to stick to the things that were the most solid pieces of evidence.

02:11:47.000 And what I did for the second edition, as I tried to take the first one, I mean, I basically, right after releasing the first one, I knew that it was incomplete, and I knew that there were automatically things that people were not going to like, and things that I had to fix.

02:11:59.000 And slowly, offers began pouring in for people that wanted to help, people that wanted to, like I said, the first contribution I got, which was key, which was Ryan Donan, who did the Animation of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon, which was phenomenal.

02:12:13.000 I mean, he did an outstanding job.

02:12:15.000 This man's got a full-time job and a family, and still managed to bang that out for me.

02:12:20.000 And again, he did an outstanding job.

02:12:22.000 So, um, it started with that, and then I started taking some points from the first loose change, like the hijackers.

02:12:27.000 People emailed me constantly asking, well, where did you get that information on the hijackers?

02:12:31.000 So I went a lot more in-depth into that.

02:12:34.000 I had key quotes from each hijacker, each article.

02:12:37.000 Links to the webpages where you can find them.

02:12:39.000 I mean, I went all out.

02:12:40.000 And to be specific, it was kind of like what Hollywood does, but on a local level.

02:12:44.000 They'll take a film and have focus groups look at it and have different screenings.

02:12:48.000 So you made edition one, got everybody's feedback, and then used all of that critiquing, which is great.

02:12:54.000 You know, we all do that to each other, to actually augment and increase the quality and information and viewability of the second one.

02:13:01.000 Yep, basically.

02:13:04.000 We tried to take The best suggestions that we got, and we also tried to include things that I originally wanted to include.

02:13:11.000 The first, I just didn't have the time and the resources, like Operation Northwoods.

02:13:14.000 I mean, that originally opened up the documentary.

02:13:17.000 I had this whole timeline, but it started going off course, and I started including things that weren't exactly relevant.

02:13:23.000 So I figured I would just put that aside and come back to it at a later date.

02:13:27.000 And that's what I did for the second mission.

02:13:29.000 I start with Northwoods, and then I go to the controlled impact demonstration that NASA did in 1984.

02:13:35.000 Uh, all the warnings that the government got.

02:13:37.000 Basically, it's a much better lead-in to, uh, virgins to 9-11 who have no idea what they're about to get themselves into.

02:13:45.000 Yeah, they've been beta testing and oiling this and preparing it for many years.

02:13:49.000 When you really start looking at it, it is totally obvious who did this.

02:13:53.000 Oh yeah, it's massive.

02:13:55.000 It is massive.

02:13:56.000 You know, people always say, hey, something this big, they'd get caught.

02:14:00.000 People would speak out.

02:14:01.000 They have spoken out.

02:14:02.000 I mean, it is what I call an orgy of evidence. 0.99

02:14:06.000 It is ridiculous. 0.97

02:14:08.000 Well, number one, the official story is totally impossible, a complete joke, an absolute 110% fraud. 0.98

02:14:15.000 Every part of it is demonstrably a lie and manufactured and deceptive.

02:14:20.000 That's number one.

02:14:21.000 And of course they had prior knowledge and all of that they tried to deny is now public knowledge and admit it.

02:14:28.000 Then you look at who the hijackers are.

02:14:29.000 They're clearly government agents.

02:14:31.000 They're clearly being trained at U.S.

02:14:32.000 military bases.

02:14:33.000 They're clearly being protected.

02:14:35.000 Then you look at NORAD standing down.

02:14:37.000 You look at the public officials being warned not to fly.

02:14:40.000 You look at the insider trading.

02:14:41.000 You look at the bombs in the buildings.

02:14:43.000 You look at all of it.

02:14:45.000 It's pretty conclusive, Dylan.

02:14:47.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:14:49.000 And I got one of those the other day.

02:14:50.000 People were like, well, you know, when you get to conspiracy theories like this, it's like there's, especially with something like 9-11, is there's so many people that were involved that how could, how have they not come out?

02:15:01.000 I mean, there's a number of reasons why they wouldn't have.

02:15:03.000 I mean, if you work for a government that killed 3,000 people, I mean, you probably fear for your own life as well.

02:15:08.000 Well, look, a lot of them have gone public.

02:15:10.000 I mean, again, the defense school dean said, I trained some of the hijackers.

02:15:15.000 They were here at my school.

02:15:17.000 They're government ops.

02:15:17.000 The government did it.

02:15:18.000 It was in the San Jose Mercury News.

02:15:20.000 They told him to shut up and threatened him.

02:15:22.000 I mean, a bunch of people went public.

02:15:24.000 How many FBI agents?

02:15:25.000 How many?

02:15:26.000 John O'Neill said, and he died on 9-11, he told British TV, he said they're going to stage an attack.

02:15:33.000 He said they're going to let an attack take place as a way to invade Afghanistan. 0.75

02:15:37.000 And what happened?

02:15:38.000 Exactly that.

02:15:41.000 It's amazing.

02:15:45.000 We're about to break, but in the minute and a half we've got, what are some of the other things you want to talk about when we get back?

02:15:52.000 I'm really up for anything right now, Alex.

02:15:53.000 I have to apologize today.

02:15:54.000 I am under an enormous amount of stress, so this interview is probably not under the best of circumstances.

02:16:01.000 A lot of things that I'm waiting to do and a lot of things are going wrong for us consecutively, so I'd like to apologize.

02:16:07.000 I'm not in my best of moods.

02:16:10.000 Yeah, I've heard on other shows you do sound a bit frazzled on this one.

02:16:13.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, man.

02:16:14.000 I'm under a lot of stress lately.

02:16:15.000 Well, I'm sorry to hear that.

02:16:17.000 Well, you know what?

02:16:18.000 You just got to relax and enjoy it.

02:16:20.000 Yeah, I'm doing my best man.

02:16:23.000 Believe me, I'm trying.

02:16:24.000 Yeah, well, you've taken a big load on yourself.

02:16:28.000 Was I correct in saying you're 23 years old?

02:16:30.000 I'm 22, actually.

02:16:31.000 22?

02:16:32.000 Yeah.

02:16:33.000 So I guess when you first started getting involved, you were 20 or 19?

02:16:36.000 18, actually.

02:16:38.000 Because I just turned 22 this past November.

02:16:38.000 18?

02:16:42.000 Yeah, well, there are people out there who say, well, some kids made this.

02:16:44.000 I don't want to hear from them.

02:16:45.000 You know, the old Bible verse, out of the mouths of babes.

02:16:49.000 But more than that, you just went out and looked at all the research by all these incredible physicists and underwriters and all the experts, and you guys did a great job of compiling it.

02:16:59.000 Yeah, and that's the other thing, is that people accuse us of, like, stealing other people's research.

02:17:02.000 It's like, we're not stealing it.

02:17:04.000 We're not, we're not, I mean, I'm not claiming to do anything extraordinary.

02:17:08.000 You even give people credit!

02:17:09.000 That's what's nuts about some of these quote researchers, is that, is that, oh, you link to me, or you, you know, you use my stuff, how dare you?

02:17:16.000 Well, we're trying to stop a bunch of killers from doing more, folks! 0.96

02:17:21.000 But you know, you just got to ignore those egomaniacs.

02:17:24.000 There's not many of them out there, but a lot of them are trying to just control the movement and everything and try to limit its scope.

02:17:29.000 I think it's great to have a wide debate, look at all the evidence, flesh it out.

02:17:34.000 Dylan, stay there.

02:17:35.000 Let's come back and take a bunch of calls on the other side.

02:17:38.000 And folks, if you want loose change, it's on Infowars.com.

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02:21:43.000 They railed against the crowd.

02:21:56.000 Another red tag band.

02:21:59.000 Declaring independence.

02:22:03.000 They laid their bodies down.

02:22:08.000 Dylan Avery.

02:22:10.000 I was talking to him during the break.

02:22:11.000 It sounds like my life.

02:22:12.000 He's dealing with DVD manufacturers not delivering stuff on time.

02:22:16.000 Shipping stuff out.

02:22:17.000 The nightmare of it.

02:22:18.000 I remember doing it out of my house many years ago.

02:22:20.000 And that's the point he's at.

02:22:22.000 Trying to edit and make films while you're doing it.

02:22:24.000 Trying to answer hundreds of emails and faxes.

02:22:26.000 It's a lot of fun.

02:22:28.000 And so I know the mode that Dylan's in.

02:22:31.000 It's fun to be in the arena.

02:22:33.000 These callers will be all over the map.

02:22:34.000 They've been holding for eons, but it all ties back into the same stuff.

02:22:36.000 Let's go to some calls.

02:22:38.000 Thomas in Florida.

02:22:39.000 You're on the air with Dylan Avery and Alex Jones.

02:22:41.000 Welcome, sir.

02:22:42.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:22:43.000 It's a given that we appreciate you.

02:22:46.000 I'll make this quick.

02:22:47.000 This is a little off the mark, what you're talking about today, but yesterday I went in to get a regular physical for my insurance.

02:22:54.000 And I'm sitting in the lobby and surrounded by books and things up on the wall talking about flu vaccine, get this vaccine, you know, vaccine yourself.

02:23:05.000 And I go back in the back and they take my blood.

02:23:09.000 And I'm still sitting there with the deal in my arm where they pulled it out of the nurse's sleeve.

02:23:12.000 And she comes back in and she's got this syringe full of something.

02:23:16.000 And she goes to start putting it in my arm. 0.89

02:23:17.000 I said, what are you doing?

02:23:19.000 What are you putting in my arm?

02:23:20.000 And she said, well this is something we're going to be able to tell about your blood from now on of anything that's going on in your body.

02:23:27.000 And I said, well what's in it?

02:23:28.000 And she said, well, it won't hurt you.

02:23:30.000 It's safe.

02:23:30.000 Trust it.

02:23:31.000 She wouldn't even tell you what it was?

02:23:32.000 She couldn't tell me what it was.

02:23:35.000 And then I said, well, you're not putting that in Mom.

02:23:38.000 And she brings the doctor back there, and he couldn't even tell me what was in it.

02:23:43.000 And I started asking... Well, sir, what were you there for?

02:23:45.000 Was it a big city clinic?

02:23:47.000 It was right up here in Sarasota.

02:23:49.000 My regular physical for my insurance, which I have good health and I'm blessed with that.

02:23:55.000 And just for my standards... Then we're going to put some kind of trait... Folks, this is what's getting crazy, is that I get reports of this all the time.

02:24:02.000 They know the general public's dumbed down, and so they're doing... And again, we've had a government 3,000 plus times declassified use chemical, biologicals, and radiologicals on the American people.

02:24:12.000 I mean, again, Israel radiated 110,000 of their own children, killed them for $3 billion from the U.S., you know, up until the 60s.

02:24:21.000 Just type in, Israel radiated its own children, it'll pop up. 1.00

02:24:24.000 Mainstream News, Israel.

02:24:26.000 The same governments that admittedly have done all this in the past, now want us to totally trust them, and oh, they wouldn't be behind terror.

02:24:33.000 Dylan Avery, you want to comment on this?

02:24:36.000 Well, actually, I was reading up on Mumia Abu Jamal earlier, actually.

02:24:40.000 I don't know if you know about him, but what happened to him happened back in the 1980s.

02:24:46.000 Basically, this guy was a journalist, and he was a cab driver at night to pay his bills, and he was letting off a fare at like 2 or 3 in the morning, and he looks out his car window, and he sees his brother in the street.

02:24:59.000 His brother got shot, and Mumia ran out there to check on his brother, and then He got jumped or something.

02:25:05.000 He lost consciousness and when he woke up, the officer and his brother were dead.

02:25:09.000 And then, uh, Mumia got picked up by an ambulance.

02:25:11.000 It took like a half hour to get to the hospital.

02:25:14.000 And basically what ended up happening is he got framed for the officer's death.

02:25:18.000 And he's been in jail since 1983.

02:25:19.000 And, um, I mean, this was back in the 1980s.

02:25:23.000 I mean, this innocent black journalist in Philadelphia got framed for a brother and a police officer's murder. 0.97

02:25:30.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

02:25:32.000 There is so much bizarre stuff going on and happening, but I mean, all the stories of poor people going to the health department and get sterilized, I mean, that happened to, what, 400-something thousand women from the 1920s until 1980s.

02:25:47.000 We've had them on.

02:25:49.000 And so, is this the city health department?

02:25:52.000 Did you go into some old city hospital to have this checkup?

02:25:55.000 Where were you when they were doing this?

02:25:57.000 This was in a high-end, you know, this is a high-end area down here anyway.

02:26:02.000 Okay, so this was in a private clinic.

02:26:04.000 This was in a private clinic for expensive insurance that I have.

02:26:09.000 You know, and I've never made any claims, but here it gets better.

02:26:11.000 But you did say no to the shot.

02:26:13.000 I said no, and when he couldn't tell me, they came back and said, well, we cannot honor your insurance unless you take this.

02:26:21.000 And, you know, I said, well, I'm leaving then.

02:26:23.000 And, uh, when they start opening the door, they're walking me out.

02:26:26.000 Alright, so when I got in the lobby, I sat there and said, you see all this stuff?

02:26:30.000 To the people that were there, I said, you see all this stuff about vaccines on the wall?

02:26:34.000 I asked the guy, the doctor was still behind me, I said, have you told everybody how much mercury is in these vaccines?

02:26:39.000 His face got blood red.

02:26:41.000 He turned over there to the receptionist and said, call the police. 0.99

02:26:44.000 You know, I told them it was a piece of crap when they were throwing me out the front door. 0.99

02:26:48.000 Well, good. 1.00

02:26:48.000 You don't need their trashy insurance. 1.00

02:26:50.000 Folks, I hear about this all the time.

02:26:52.000 Listen, local news gets on, it happens nationwide, a month before school and says, you must take vaccines or you'll be arrested.

02:26:58.000 There's no law!

02:27:00.000 Listen, next summer, when you are watching it on TV, I don't care if you live in Albuquerque or in New York or Austin, and you're going to see it on every channel, it's the law, you'll be arrested.

02:27:09.000 Call up and go, what's that law on the news?

02:27:11.000 We were just told to say this.

02:27:12.000 There's not even a law!

02:27:14.000 And sir, the story you're telling, I'm getting all the time.

02:27:18.000 You just go to the doctor, and we've got an injection for you.

02:27:21.000 Well, what is that?

02:27:22.000 You need to get out of here right now, boy.

02:27:26.000 Because the drug companies are giving them money to do this. 0.97

02:27:29.000 I mean, it's just... Oh my gosh.

02:27:32.000 We'll be right back.

02:27:35.000 We're on the march.

02:27:37.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:30:45.000 We don't need no education.

02:30:49.000 We don't need no thought control.

02:30:59.000 No dark sarcasm in the classroom.

02:31:03.000 No dark sarcasm in the classroom.

02:31:08.000 Teach to leave them kids alone. 0.99

02:31:17.000 Folks, hey! 0.95

02:31:24.000 I have no way of verifying what that caller just told us, but I'm going to ask him to send us an email detailing it with names, everything.

02:31:31.000 I will try to investigate it.

02:31:33.000 But I know this.

02:31:34.000 All over the country, again, I mean, G.I.s over and over again would go in and they'd go, oh, free health care for your children. 0.99

02:31:42.000 And our government would just put little kids in a chamber and kill them. 0.99

02:31:46.000 Your kid's dead. 1.00

02:31:47.000 That's Time Magazine.

02:31:48.000 They'll just calmly report it.

02:31:49.000 Or pregnant wives go in to have babies. 0.97

02:31:52.000 Back down to the troops and they'd give them uranium, plutonium pills, and tell them, now if you don't feel good taking these vitamins, come right in here.

02:31:59.000 And they'd have doctors on standby with film cameras rolling just to see how the baby died.

02:32:05.000 Oh, don't believe me?

02:32:06.000 I mean, I had this thing where talk show hosts, when I'm doing an interview, don't believe me?

02:32:09.000 I'm not a betting man, but I'll go, 10 grand right now.

02:32:12.000 Come on, 10 grand!

02:32:13.000 10 grand, don't believe me?

02:32:15.000 Don't believe me that Israel irradiated 110,000 children?

02:32:20.000 Most of them, of course, died within just a week or so.

02:32:24.000 Don't believe me?

02:32:24.000 Don't believe it's in mainstream newspapers over there?

02:32:26.000 Just calmly announced like they're reporting on the price of petrol or something.

02:32:32.000 I mean, it's that simple.

02:32:33.000 I mean, you see, you want to know why I freak out, why I'm always going wild?

02:32:38.000 Because, I mean, I'm just a bunch of psychopathic killers running everything right in front of us.

02:32:42.000 And I know, I mean, the black men in Tuskegee, they'd go in, they'd have syphilis, they'd let them die of it over 40, 50 years, and now the evidence shows they were giving them syphilis? 0.98

02:32:50.000 Imagine, poor black men.

02:32:52.000 I'm going in to see the doctor, you're in Alabama, and you go in, Hello, doctor. 0.96

02:32:57.000 I appreciate your help.

02:32:58.000 And that doctor's like, yes, we'll take care of you here.

02:33:03.000 Now you'll... I mean, it's so sick!

02:33:05.000 And everybody just wants to be a bunch of naive idiots! 1.00

02:33:08.000 What's wrong with us? 1.00

02:33:09.000 I'm not a braying sheep in a pen that's gonna take it!

02:33:13.000 And, uh, yeah, I've talked to people who go in, and they'll just really push these shots on you.

02:33:17.000 They're putting all kinds of weird stuff in them.

02:33:19.000 The doctors won't even ask what it is.

02:33:21.000 They're just getting some bounty.

02:33:22.000 And believe me, these insurance companies are the worst.

02:33:27.000 I mean, Bill and Avery, do you ever just get totally flipped out like I do just by how crazy everything that's admitted is?

02:33:35.000 Yeah, all the time.

02:33:36.000 That's why I try to take a break now and then and try to keep myself somewhat sane.

02:33:40.000 I mean, it really is insane. 0.98

02:33:44.000 I mean, when you know that, I mean, folks, they'll take our troops and put them out in the field and fly over and nerve gas them and just kill them.

02:33:55.000 Over and over again, and it can be in the BBC, and it's just, oh, government kills you, it's just, you trust them though, they wouldn't, they're fighting Al-Qaeda, man, Iran's a real threat. 0.97

02:34:07.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

02:34:09.000 Oh, man, you, Alex, you need to have Corey on your show sometime, because he was in Afghanistan and Iraq, and he would have tons of things to tell you about the war.

02:34:16.000 He's one of the guys that worked on the film.

02:34:19.000 Now, yeah, tell us about Corey.

02:34:20.000 Corey, well, he and I have been friends for Basically, forever.

02:34:25.000 Not our entire lives, but we're definitely best friends.

02:34:28.000 Soul brothers!

02:34:30.000 Yeah, basically.

02:34:32.000 We ran into each other when we started doing a paper route together, and we've been best friends ever since.

02:34:37.000 Back in August 2001, Cory enlisted to the Army, and his first day of basic training was September 11th, 2001.

02:34:45.000 And within two or three months, he was in Afghanistan.

02:34:48.000 And then, when he was in Afghanistan, He emailed me.

02:34:51.000 He was like, yeah, I'm in Afghanistan now.

02:34:53.000 We're probably going to Iraq next.

02:34:55.000 And that was in November 2001.

02:34:56.000 And the troops knew they were going to Iraq.

02:34:58.000 Well, they didn't know.

02:34:59.000 I guess it was more like a joke among the troops.

02:35:02.000 But basically, Corey just got out of the Army this past summer.

02:35:06.000 Oh, yeah.

02:35:06.000 I think I've heard of Corey on Jack Blood Show.

02:35:09.000 Yeah, you probably have.

02:35:10.000 And he's got out of the Army and he's been fighting the good fight ever since.

02:35:15.000 And didn't he work with you on the new film?

02:35:18.000 Yeah, he's my producer and advisor.

02:35:20.000 I'm the one that does the editing and all the work, but he stands over my shoulder, gives me advice, tells me what looks good, what doesn't.

02:35:27.000 That's a producer's job.

02:35:29.000 Well, that's why the New Order's got a problem, is their troops, their military, their police.

02:35:33.000 We are turning them to the light every day.

02:35:35.000 They are coming over to America. 1.00

02:35:38.000 They are coming home.

02:35:38.000 They are coming home to decency and honor and beauty and love and just everything wholesome.

02:35:45.000 And they are feeling so good when they do it.

02:35:47.000 They are being empowered to be the warriors they truly are.

02:35:50.000 And the New World Order needs to know this.

02:35:52.000 We're not going down easy.

02:35:53.000 We're not going down without a fight.

02:35:55.000 We know who you are.

02:35:56.000 We know what you've done.

02:35:57.000 And we know what you're trying to set up will make all your previous crimes pale in significance.

02:36:01.000 And I just want them to know, you've got to fight!

02:36:03.000 You don't control all of us and our numbers are growing.

02:36:06.000 You want to tell them that, Dylan?

02:36:08.000 Yeah, yep.

02:36:09.000 That's what I'm doing, man.

02:36:10.000 I'm doing my part.

02:36:12.000 Are you taking them on at point-blank range?

02:36:14.000 Yeah.

02:36:15.000 Engaging enemy formations?

02:36:17.000 Hey, man, if you could get me within speaking distance of any of these people, seriously, I'll get some answers out of them.

02:36:23.000 I mean, I would love to be in a room with George Bush.

02:36:26.000 I would love it.

02:36:28.000 Let's take a couple more calls.

02:36:30.000 Again, if you want to get Loose Change, it's on InfoWars.com.

02:36:33.000 Dylan graciously has authorized me to post it on PrisonPlanet.tv for members.

02:36:37.000 That'll be up by next week.

02:36:40.000 Just such a wonderful film, and we're so honored to have Dylan with us.

02:36:44.000 If you want to get a copy of it, it's 1-888-253-3139, 888-253-3139.

02:36:45.000 1-888-253-3139. 888-253-3139.

02:36:52.000 And just a testament to Dylan and his crew.

02:36:55.000 Again, 19 years old, sees what's happening, goes and does the research, puts a film together.

02:37:00.000 There have been other great films made by 60-year-old people, or films made by 30-year-old folks.

02:37:06.000 It doesn't matter.

02:37:07.000 It's the information.

02:37:08.000 I've looked at it.

02:37:09.000 It's good information.

02:37:10.000 It's important.

02:37:11.000 It's very effective at waking people up.

02:37:14.000 We're doing a lot of things right now.

02:37:16.000 last Dylan we're starting to run out of that first shipment are you gonna how soon do we get some more I mean we've got some in stock right now but not many how long do you get some more in hopefully within a week or two man we're doing a lot of things right now we're like like I told you over the break we we kind of got shot down at the last minute by our last plan No, I understand, but you just got more in, but it's good to be selling out of something.

02:37:40.000 Let's go ahead here and go back to the calls.

02:37:44.000 Mike in Oregon.

02:37:46.000 Go ahead, sir.

02:37:47.000 Hey Alex, I just have a couple quick questions.

02:37:50.000 First one to Dylan.

02:37:50.000 I just wanted to know if he's found himself on the no-fly list.

02:37:55.000 And Alex, I know you're not, and I was wondering I find it weird that you're not on the no fly list.

02:38:00.000 My dad is.

02:38:01.000 Your dad is?

02:38:02.000 Yes, because They do it selectively, and they know I'll scream bloody murder and make a big deal out of it.

02:38:10.000 I mean, Ted Kennedy is.

02:38:12.000 My dad, because his name is so common, Jones is very common, and his first name is even more common, and so he needs that.

02:38:19.000 He started adding his middle initial.

02:38:21.000 In his case, it really is a mistake, because there's so many people.

02:38:25.000 I mean, there's got to be tens of thousands with his name just in the U.S.

02:38:28.000 alone, and then in Western Europe and England, there's just as many. 0.85

02:38:32.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

02:38:34.000 But, and so they did advise people that if you're having trouble with a really common name, that what you do is you just add your initial, or maybe your initial is matching somebody, you take your initial out, and you get through.

02:38:48.000 You know, it's like four-year-olds that can't fly because their name is the same as somebody else, and TSA goes, we know you're not him, but sorry you can't fly.

02:38:55.000 So there is some clear harassment, but at the same time there's not harassment.

02:38:59.000 Like there's been Green Party people who are going to fly to You know, from Maine to Minneapolis-St.

02:39:05.000 Paul for a Green Party meeting, and they find out they're on the list because they don't like their politics.

02:39:10.000 Look, they've already attacked me physically.

02:39:13.000 They've already done all kinds of stuff to me, and they know I increase my attack every time they do.

02:39:17.000 I mean, that's my rule.

02:39:19.000 And I always intensify the attack every time I'm attacked.

02:39:23.000 They understand that's my instinctive mode.

02:39:26.000 I don't run, I fight.

02:39:28.000 You can fight or flight, or you can grovel and go into a catatonic unnatural state.

02:39:34.000 I don't run, unless I believe that's the right thing to do, but generally my instincts are don't.

02:39:40.000 And I never really have, but I'm not saying I wouldn't.

02:39:43.000 I'm not going to say that there's not a place for that.

02:39:46.000 No one to hold them, no one to fold them, no one to walk away, no one to run.

02:39:51.000 People ask, why am I alive?

02:39:53.000 Because they don't want to make me a martyr, folks!

02:39:56.000 Now, may there be a fake mugging? 0.95

02:39:58.000 May I get killed in a drive-by? 1.00

02:40:00.000 Then they grab some crackhead and blame it on him. 1.00

02:40:02.000 Could that happen? 0.99

02:40:02.000 Yeah, but we're all going to die. 0.99

02:40:04.000 You know, and again, the number one cause of death is getting on the highway.

02:40:08.000 Until you're 55, and it's heart attacks and cancer, respectively.

02:40:11.000 But we all still get in our cars and hurl down the road at 80 miles an hour with 18 wheelers right beside us.

02:40:17.000 I was driving up to a car dealership to pick up my car that had some work done on it, Saturday, and I saw a pickup truck all smashed with them cutting the guy out, tuned into the news later driving back, and he was dead!

02:40:28.000 Now, Al-Qaeda didn't kill him, George Bush didn't kill him, Chewbacabra didn't kill him, and all this lions and tigers and bears didn't kill him.

02:40:37.000 It was a car hurtling down I-35.

02:40:40.000 And we all make that decision every day.

02:40:41.000 We put our kids in the car, we drive out on the road, but then we're all quaking in fear of the government.

02:40:46.000 Listen, man, life's too short to be afraid of dying.

02:40:49.000 I am not afraid.

02:40:51.000 And it's not even some heroic thing to just gut up and get past your fear.

02:40:57.000 I'm sorry.

02:40:58.000 Anything else, Mike?

02:40:59.000 No, just wondering if Dylan's on the list.

02:41:02.000 No, I'm not.

02:41:03.000 As of last July, I flew out to California.

02:41:06.000 I plan on going back in the next couple months, so if I get shot down at the ticket counter, I'll definitely let you know.

02:41:12.000 And also, just a quick one, Alex.

02:41:14.000 Do you give fellow filmmakers sort of like a A blanket, I guess, approval to use your voice or image in documentaries to help get the word out?

02:41:22.000 You know, I can't sit here on the radio and just say, oh, blanket, you can do whatever you want because of my enemies will do stuff.

02:41:29.000 But I've authorized people for non-profit educational purposes, that is giving my videos away, that you can do that because it's all fair use.

02:41:38.000 But I do reserve the right to revoke people who are abusing it, so there isn't just a blanket carte blanche thing.

02:41:48.000 But under fair use, you don't have to ask my permission if you want to use a very small portion of what I'm doing, or if you are critiquing what I'm doing, either good or bad.

02:41:59.000 So you need to look into the law on that.

02:42:01.000 Thank you for the call.

02:42:03.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Tom in Missouri.

02:42:05.000 Tom, you're on the air.

02:42:06.000 Go ahead.

02:42:07.000 Um, hey Dylan, just calling to say hi.

02:42:09.000 How you doing, man?

02:42:11.000 I'm trying to do my best, buddy.

02:42:12.000 How about you?

02:42:13.000 Oh, just fine.

02:42:14.000 I'm really sorry to hear about that distributor.

02:42:16.000 That was not very nice.

02:42:19.000 Yeah, it's alright, man.

02:42:22.000 Let's move on to some information.

02:42:23.000 Anything you want to talk about the New World Order concentration camps?

02:42:26.000 You know, we had a big professor on last hour saying he doesn't know if we'll make it.

02:42:29.000 We may go into total martial law.

02:42:31.000 Any comments on something like that or anything?

02:42:34.000 Actually, yeah, I disagree.

02:42:36.000 With the pessimism.

02:42:38.000 In all honesty, it's going to fall.

02:42:41.000 It is going to fall.

02:42:43.000 This Patriot Act, it's going to burn.

02:42:46.000 It's going to go away, because people have waken up now and they're realizing what they've seen in front of them is, you know, Toto, I'm not in Kansas anymore.

02:42:56.000 Oh, I agree with you.

02:42:57.000 I think the illusion is disappearing.

02:43:00.000 I mean, I think people are really seeing through things.

02:43:04.000 Exactly.

02:43:06.000 Similar thing, I predict similar things are going to happen here that happened in like Great Britain a long time ago when they had similar things with supposed terrorist attacks.

02:43:16.000 People in the government, people will, you know, go into office and then suddenly realize this legislation defeats the purpose of our form of government.

02:43:27.000 Let's get rid of this legislation.

02:43:29.000 Yeah, it's good to talk about repealing things.

02:43:32.000 I appreciate the call.

02:43:33.000 Matt in Tennessee, you're on the air, go ahead.

02:43:36.000 Yes, Alex, thanks for taking my call.

02:43:38.000 I just want to thank you all for all that you do.

02:43:40.000 I had a comment about the title, Loose Change.

02:43:47.000 What I first thought it was about, I thought it might be about the gold that was missing out of the bottom of the World Trade Center in the economic... That's right.

02:43:55.000 A hundred and something billion.

02:43:56.000 Admittedly there, gold doesn't disappear, folks.

02:44:00.000 And then there's just no discussion about it now.

02:44:03.000 You ask the media, they go, we're not going to talk about those Federal Reserve vaults, Dylan.

02:44:09.000 Yeah, we actually cover that in the conclusion of the second edition.

02:44:12.000 Go over the gold that was missing in the empty dump trucks and the convoy of cars that was found underneath World Trade Center for No bodies recovered, which means basically these people got out of their trucks and started running.

02:44:23.000 I mean, how did they know the South Tower was going to collapse?

02:44:25.000 Do you remember Die Hard 3, where the Germans carry out a terror attack, but really it's a diversion to rob the World Trade Center vaults? 0.55

02:44:35.000 The Germans just love doing stuff like this. 1.00

02:44:38.000 They love it.

02:44:40.000 They have a Fox TV special, Lone Gunman, where a government group hijacks a jet to fly it by remote control, and blame it on hijackers, into the World Trade Center so they can attack Afghanistan.

02:44:51.000 Then I have Dean Haglund on From the start of the show, saying that the CIA was planning those stories on them.

02:44:58.000 I mean, how much more obvious is that?

02:45:01.000 It doesn't get much more obvious than that, Matt.

02:45:04.000 No, it doesn't get much more obvious than that.

02:45:07.000 Go ahead and finish up what you were saying there, Matt.

02:45:09.000 Well, I'd like to add that I was just talking to my rep at MIDAS yesterday, and he informed me that the M3 money supply figures are going to be discontinued In March, and that's what I think makes the gold so pertinent.

02:45:25.000 That's right.

02:45:27.000 If you thought that Alan Greenspan printed money and drove down the value of the dollar by roughly 45%, get ready for this new guy.

02:45:34.000 He is called Mr. Helicopter.

02:45:36.000 He said he wants to just literally dump money out of helicopters.

02:45:40.000 Sounds good until you realize that it'll be worth toilet paper.

02:45:44.000 Right, and that's how they're really getting us.

02:45:45.000 That's my personal interest, is what they're doing to us economically, Alex.

02:45:50.000 But I'll tell you what, you guys just keep up what you're doing, and I'm going to keep listening.

02:45:53.000 Thanks a lot.

02:45:55.000 I hear you.

02:45:55.000 I appreciate it.

02:45:56.000 Listen, folks, we have the strongest currency in the world.

02:46:00.000 It is now barely first world status, about to drop into major third world status.

02:46:05.000 I mean, you know, we all joke about Mexico.

02:46:07.000 You can go down there with a hundred bucks and live for a week. 0.99

02:46:11.000 They've got a junk currency.

02:46:13.000 But Americans have been brainwashed to avoid any confrontation or something threatening to their paradigm. 0.97

02:46:18.000 So now I talk to businessmen, I go, you know, the dollar's been devalued.

02:46:21.000 And they go, huh?

02:46:22.000 What's that mean?

02:46:23.000 Well, the dollar's been devalued.

02:46:25.000 Our currency, you know, Bush gives you a little 5% tax cut.

02:46:30.000 But then they devalue the currency by 40-something percent.

02:46:33.000 Now, would you rather keep the value or get 5% back?

02:46:37.000 I don't know.

02:46:38.000 I mean, literally, I don't know what you're talking about, Alex.

02:46:40.000 Things are good.

02:46:41.000 I mean, it's just there's a total disconnect, Dylan.

02:46:45.000 Yeah, I'm definitely going to turn my money into gold as soon as possible, without a doubt.

02:46:51.000 Well, I mean, obviously, folks, this network's owned by a company that sells gold, but...

02:46:58.000 But, I mean, that's where I bought my gold.

02:47:01.000 I bought some from Midas Resources.

02:47:03.000 I guess about five, six different buys.

02:47:04.000 No more than that over the years.

02:47:06.000 A few coins here, a few coins there.

02:47:07.000 But, you know, regardless, I don't have to sit there and stand on trust to me.

02:47:11.000 Gold has doubled in value in the last five years, and the stock market has gone down.

02:47:18.000 And then people go, well, it's at 11,000, Alex.

02:47:21.000 Uh, they take out any losers from it. 0.60

02:47:24.000 You see, everything is cooked. 0.85

02:47:26.000 Everything is cooked.

02:47:27.000 The numbers are cooked.

02:47:30.000 So, I don't know.

02:47:30.000 Don't listen to me.

02:47:31.000 Double your money or don't.

02:47:33.000 See, I didn't dump my gold when it doubled.

02:47:35.000 I'm holding on to it.

02:47:36.000 Because at least it's got some intrinsic value.

02:47:38.000 you it is not paper so any more colors We're going to go to some after this quick break, Dylan.

02:47:49.000 We're going to go to break here.

02:47:51.000 And then we're going to come back and start taking a few more final phone calls here in the final segment.

02:47:58.000 But just so I can understand this, you are now going to try to make a feature film out of what really happened on 9-11?

02:48:08.000 Yeah, we're going to do our best.

02:48:09.000 I mean, we have limited resources, but hopefully if everything goes right this year, we'll have Enough within our hands to film the movie.

02:48:17.000 Well, it'd be great to have Mel Gibson make that movie.

02:48:21.000 Actually, you should get me in touch with Robert Rodriguez.

02:48:25.000 Yeah, I don't know if Robert Rodriguez would want to do something like that.

02:48:30.000 Yeah, probably not.

02:48:31.000 Who knows?

02:48:32.000 He might.

02:48:33.000 I know Richard Linklater pretty good.

02:48:35.000 I don't really know Robert very well.

02:48:37.000 But we'll be right back with Dylan Avery.

02:48:39.000 Stay with us.

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02:51:51.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:51:59.000 Very, very busy out there fighting the New World Order.

02:52:03.000 And that's good.

02:52:03.000 We'll talk to Reuben in a day, that'll be it for calls.

02:52:06.000 This has been a great broadcast today.

02:52:07.000 I want to thank all of our guests that came on.

02:52:09.000 If you missed the interview in the last hour with the professor from Notre Dame, Notre Dame University, who debated this John Yoo about how the government says they can torture children in front of their parents.

02:52:18.000 I mean, this is getting sick.

02:52:19.000 If you missed that, it's coming back up tonight.

02:52:21.000 You want to tune in for that.

02:52:23.000 Reuben in Ohio.

02:52:24.000 You're on the air.

02:52:25.000 Go ahead, Reuben.

02:52:26.000 Hey, thanks.

02:52:27.000 My favorite part of Loose Change is where you show the jet turbine blowing I think it's an ambulance or a car away from it as it approaches on a runway.

02:52:36.000 Proving that a 747 couldn't have flown over that highway without tumbling cars over hitting the Pentagon.

02:52:47.000 Yeah, the reason I removed that clip from the second edition of Loose Change is because there was some speculation that that video was actually a computer simulation or like something that was staged and not actually real, so... Was it real?

02:53:00.000 I don't know, I heard a couple different claims.

02:53:02.000 Some people said it was real, some people said it wasn't.

02:53:03.000 I couldn't really get much of a verifiable source.

02:53:06.000 Regardless, the Pentagon stinks from every different angle, and I think it's important to look at it in the film.

02:53:12.000 The film does that.

02:53:12.000 Anything else, Reuben?

02:53:14.000 There's a guy on TV pushing this book, Kevin Trudeau, National Curse, I want you to know about.

02:53:19.000 And I was watching last night, and I'm thinking, Why doesn't Alex Jones or Dylan Avery push their 9-11 videos on Infomercial?

02:53:27.000 Is that possible?

02:53:28.000 You know, I don't think that at this point it's a great idea.

02:53:31.000 People should do it.

02:53:32.000 If somebody else does it more power to them.

02:53:33.000 My goal is to get the word out.

02:53:35.000 They can refuse.

02:53:37.000 I know a few have actually tried similar things.

02:53:39.000 They can refuse to let you buy time on them.

02:53:42.000 Trudeau's even had trouble and his stuff's pretty mild.

02:53:45.000 And it takes a lot of capital to even produce those at the standards they demand and then to distribute it and do it.

02:53:51.000 It is a monumental undertaking.

02:53:53.000 It should be attempted.

02:53:54.000 It should be tried.

02:53:56.000 But again, we need to be capitalized and supported to do that.

02:54:00.000 According to some, it's I'm bad that I say make copies of my videos.

02:54:03.000 I shouldn't even sell them.

02:54:04.000 The problem is that we couldn't even make films if we didn't sell films.

02:54:07.000 But that's the COINTELPRO people that don't want us to even be able to fight the New World Order.

02:54:11.000 Thank you, Rubin, for the call.

02:54:12.000 Dave in Connecticut, that's a great idea from Rubin, isn't it?

02:54:15.000 That's a great idea, Dylan.

02:54:17.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:54:18.000 Let's talk to Dave in Connecticut.

02:54:20.000 Dave, you're on the air.

02:54:21.000 Go ahead.

02:54:21.000 Hi, Alex.

02:54:22.000 How are you?

02:54:22.000 Good.

02:54:23.000 Listen, I'm worried about the economics of the situation.

02:54:25.000 I agree that the Patriot Act might get turned down, but I'll give you an example.

02:54:30.000 Regional news up here in the Connecticut area.

02:54:32.000 An iconic company, something you're going to be very familiar with, Winchester Repeating Arms.

02:54:37.000 They're going to be closing the plant in 60 days.

02:54:40.000 Sixty days, Alex.

02:54:41.000 Winchester repeating arms.

02:54:43.000 The gun that won the West.

02:54:44.000 And you want to know what they're thinking of reopening the plant?

02:54:47.000 I thought Winchester was already in Japan.

02:54:49.000 No, well, there's a New Haven plant here, and they're making stuff, and they're going to be closing it, and it's going to be going, the rest of the operation, if they've got some of it there, is going to be going to China.

02:55:00.000 Yeah, I knew Japan actually had manufacturing plants in China.

02:55:05.000 I thought it was a Japanese operation.

02:55:06.000 Well, according to what I'm hearing from the mayor of New Haven on the local news, which of course you can take what you take, he's trying to stop it.

02:55:13.000 But I'll give you another quick example.

02:55:15.000 I worked for the world's largest oil company, won't mention their name, for five years.

02:55:19.000 ExxonMobil.

02:55:20.000 Right.

02:55:21.000 They closed the plant in Connecticut.

02:55:22.000 It was a plastics manufacturing facility because the price of resin went up when they helped raise, by the way, said it wasn't making any money.

02:55:30.000 And then I went to, 60 days later, I got another job at a rolling mill company in the Connecticut area that had been open since 1905.

02:55:40.000 I was there for 45 days, and they announced they're closing the plant.

02:55:45.000 Hey, that's a great economy.

02:55:46.000 The economy's great.

02:55:47.000 It's a liberal lie that it isn't.

02:55:49.000 Thank you for the call, Dave.

02:55:50.000 Great points.

02:55:51.000 Dylan Avery, again, I'm just so glad you stood up to the plate.

02:55:54.000 Made a great film.

02:55:55.000 Your second edition is even better.

02:55:57.000 We'll carry it at InfoWars.com.

02:55:59.000 Thank you so much for defending this country.

02:56:02.000 Yeah, thanks for having me on your show, Alex.

02:56:03.000 I've been looking forward to it.

02:56:05.000 You bet.

02:56:06.000 And we look forward to having you back on again in the future.

02:56:10.000 So God bless you.

02:56:11.000 Yeah.

02:56:11.000 You too, Alex.

02:56:12.000 Take care of yourself.

02:56:13.000 You bet.

02:56:13.000 Bye-bye.

02:56:14.000 All right, folks.

02:56:14.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:16.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2, Central Standard Time.

02:56:19.000 Now get out there and take on the New World Order.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - January 19, 2006

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