Alex Jones Show - 20060120_Fri_Alex

00:00:01.000 There are many people asking questions.

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00:00:20.000 And you're creating a mess.

00:00:23.000 Good morning!

00:00:25.000 Good afternoon, good evening ladies and gentlemen wherever you're situated on this great big beautiful blue globe floating through the void of y'all's creation.

00:00:32.000 It's Friday the 20th of January 2005 and I don't know where this one came from.

00:00:39.000 Joyce just threw this at me just before the mic went live and after reading this supposed verbatim quote from G.W.

00:00:48.000 Bush anybody who saw this on television has They've got to be brain dead if they don't recognize that we're at the crossroads and are asking themselves the question, where is my line in the sand?

00:01:05.000 This is Dave Van Clyde.

00:01:06.000 And Joyce Riley.

00:01:07.000 We'll tell you what that's all about in just a few minutes.

00:01:08.000 I sure hope she doesn't.

00:01:13.000 If he said this, he needs to be taken to a place that can protect him with rubber walls real soon, I think.

00:01:20.000 Oh, man!

00:01:21.000 Anyway, we are going to be talking about the news, and the news that they say is news is, ladies and gentlemen, of course, the lead story on CNN, major news networks today, is the Osama Bin Laden tape.

00:01:33.000 We're going to talk about this tape, and if anybody believes that that's the real deal, then you know why we have bad intel.

00:01:41.000 The CIA has now confirmed that this tape is true.

00:01:46.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I know that you are so sick of the wag the dog government that we have, but it is absolutely in your face with this Bin Laden tape. 0.83

00:01:57.000 Now, of course, this is a tape that allegedly was released.

00:02:01.000 It's an alleged tape, allegedly released in December, allegedly by Osama Bin Laden, carried allegedly by Al Jazeera.

00:02:09.000 And if you missed the discussion we had about Al Jazeera yesterday, then you know that Al Jazeera probably is not even the real deal, for sure, too.

00:02:18.000 But anyway, that's supposed to be the big story.

00:02:20.000 Now, we'll get into this because I think the Jill Carroll story dovetails into this.

00:02:26.000 Right along with the story of We've Got Another Tape, We've Got Another Tape.

00:02:31.000 Michael Fortier is going to be released from prison.

00:02:33.000 Remember who he is?

00:02:35.000 We'll talk about that.

00:02:37.000 Also, the Japanese, as of this morning, have now banned American beef again today.

00:02:44.000 Don't know much about that story, but that's going to be a big hit to our industry over here.

00:02:48.000 And, uh, let's look at what the real news is.

00:02:52.000 The serious news is that Google has now been asked by the government to provide millions of requests over where you've been on the internet, who you've been looking at, and of course this is all because people might be looking at pornography.

00:03:06.000 That's the reason.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, right.

00:03:08.000 Yeah, that's the reason.

00:03:09.000 Right.

00:03:10.000 A new cancer treatment in the Spice Cabinet.

00:03:12.000 Yeah, this was a big story from the, are you ready for this, the American Cancer Society.

00:03:19.000 The Spice Cabinet has your answer.

00:03:22.000 Now just which Spice do you think that is? 0.99

00:03:24.000 We'll tell you about that.

00:03:26.000 And we have a Power Hour team member of the day.

00:03:31.000 For approaching Congressman Thompson and handing him a copy of Beyond Treason.

00:03:35.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:03:36.000 It made the newspaper.

00:03:38.000 Really?

00:03:38.000 At Fort Bragg.

00:03:39.000 Cool.

00:03:39.000 It made the newspaper.

00:03:40.000 He is our team member of the day.

00:03:42.000 We'll tell you why.

00:03:43.000 And also, how many presidents do you think have been left-handed?

00:03:46.000 We talked about it yesterday.

00:03:48.000 Well, we have Len's answer here.

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00:07:57.000 Hi, everybody.

00:08:08.000 This is Davon Kloest.

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00:08:10.000 And we all know knowledge is power, and that's why we call this the Power Hour.

00:08:14.000 Excuse me, sir.

00:08:31.000 Yes, what is it now?

00:08:32.000 I have him outside, sir.

00:08:34.000 Shall I bring him in?

00:08:36.000 Yes, bring him in.

00:08:40.000 Yes, sir.

00:08:42.000 What is it? 0.81

00:08:44.000 Listen, you boob. 1.00

00:08:45.000 You'd better learn how to speak the English language.

00:08:48.000 I've heard you speaking on that radio program where the opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the staff management or sponsors of this radio station.

00:08:57.000 Now, you've done that disclaimer and botched it every single time.

00:09:02.000 I want you to say it right now.

00:09:05.000 The opinions expressed on this program are not necessarily... Shut up! 0.99

00:09:13.000 Necessarily. 1.00

00:09:13.000 Sit down! 1.00

00:09:15.000 Say it!

00:09:17.000 Necessarily. Necessarily. Necessarily.

00:09:24.000 Say it.

00:09:25.000 Necessarily.

00:09:28.000 Those of the staff.

00:09:31.000 Those of... of the staff?

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00:09:44.000 Very good.

00:09:45.000 Now go and do it right next time.

00:09:50.000 Okay.

00:09:51.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:09:51.000 Okay, I will. 0.99

00:09:51.000 I do. 0.99

00:09:53.000 Well, I guess we know who he answers to.

00:10:00.000 Oh, man.

00:10:03.000 I guess we know who's in charge of him.

00:10:05.000 No kidding, no kidding.

00:10:06.000 Welcome to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.

00:10:10.000 We all know that GW is not the leader of the free world.

00:10:12.000 Come on, anybody that actually believes that has got to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny.

00:10:17.000 I mean, golly, if this man is the leader of the free world, As Paul Lin used to say, we're in trouble.

00:10:24.000 I know, we are in trouble.

00:10:25.000 And you know what Dave, I think they're going to have to retract something.

00:10:28.000 Remember that book called Bush's Brain?

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:31.000 I think they're going to have to retract that.

00:10:33.000 Retract his brain?

00:10:34.000 Well, there's been no evidence found.

00:10:36.000 And he has one!

00:10:37.000 I know, but you know, and when people hear this statement a little bit later that we're going to read about him, I think they will understand what you're talking about.

00:10:43.000 Anyway, welcome to the Power Hour.

00:10:44.000 This is Joyce.

00:10:45.000 And this is Dave.

00:10:46.000 And as you have been listening to the television, oh please, I hope not.

00:10:49.000 I hope not.

00:10:50.000 Here's the main story of the day.

00:10:53.000 Osama Bin Laden released, or excuse me, excuse me.

00:10:57.000 Allegedly, Osama Bin Laden released an alleged tape with the alleged message that they're not over, not finished with the United States.

00:11:07.000 The war against America will not be confined to Iraq.

00:11:11.000 Now this is the scary part, because even if it's not a real tape, then you know it's a CIA tape, which doesn't surprise any of the Power Hour listeners.

00:11:20.000 But he says, it will not be confined to Iraq.

00:11:24.000 The war will not be confined.

00:11:26.000 Another attack is in the works.

00:11:30.000 In the heart of the land.

00:11:34.000 That's the alleged statement, allegedly by Osama Bin Laden.

00:11:37.000 Which tells us, yeah, they're preparing something, yeah, they're trying to get everybody ready, yeah, they've got to do something, because you know what happened?

00:11:44.000 The Pakistan issue backfired in their face.

00:11:46.000 They hit a bunch of innocent people, killed a bunch of children there, all the time saying, well, we thought that this guy was there, and, you know, they just have the right to go into any country and bomb anybody if they think somebody might be there with their bad intel that has never proven to be right in the past.

00:12:02.000 I mean, remember when Bill Clinton bombed an aspirin factory?

00:12:06.000 It's not just George Bush's administration that's doing all this.

00:12:10.000 So now we've got a situation in which they've got a bunch of bad PR.

00:12:13.000 And they want to go after Iran for all the wrong reasons.

00:12:16.000 But be that as it may, they want to go get Iran. 0.91

00:12:18.000 So they've got to set the stage and create all the atrocities again.

00:12:21.000 So get ready for all the women who've had their left hand cut off. 0.98

00:12:26.000 And all the women who had, you know, I mean, just get ready for it. 1.00

00:12:29.000 Because they have to do it to create a war.

00:12:31.000 Because they can't create a war legitimately.

00:12:34.000 So now what are we doing?

00:12:35.000 Well, we're picking at everything the President of Iran says to prove that we've got to go over there and nuke this guy. 0.56

00:12:42.000 Do you think that we're going to go nuke them before long or we're going to go attack Iran? 0.99

00:12:48.000 I think everybody does because on television right now you are seeing it.

00:12:51.000 Well, they're upping the ante.

00:12:53.000 The plans are on the table.

00:12:57.000 So the first time I get a phone call from some major network media source who wants somebody who will look good in front of the TV set and be a good commentator for the next war then you know we're about ready to go to war and you can be assured I will let you know.

00:13:16.000 Alright so we've got this problem with Osama Bin Laden's tape now which a lot of people are saying is a phony tape because all you have to do is look at it and by the way there is no sound on it because There is no sound, so they can do whatever they want to do with the sound.

00:13:30.000 So, they've got another problem also, and that is, people don't want the war with Iran.

00:13:35.000 They don't want it, period.

00:13:36.000 They don't want the war with Iraq!

00:13:38.000 They don't want the war with Afghanistan, let alone a new war.

00:13:41.000 You know, I want to jump, before you go right past that, there's no sound on the tape.

00:13:44.000 This is not the first time this has happened.

00:13:46.000 There's so many times where they will play a video of the quote-unquote Osama speaking, but they never allow you to hear the audio part of the tape.

00:13:56.000 Now there are a lot of folks out there that speak the language that could translate what he's saying, but maybe they don't want you to hear exactly what he's saying.

00:14:02.000 They want to literally put the words in his mouth.

00:14:05.000 Or maybe he's not saying anything.

00:14:07.000 Or maybe this is an old tape.

00:14:08.000 Or maybe they just made a whole bunch of footage of it and said, we'll just use this as we need it.

00:14:11.000 Well, there's a Duke professor who is now skeptical of the Bin Laden tape.

00:14:15.000 This Duke professor says that he is doubtful about Thursday's audio tape from Osama Bin Laden.

00:14:21.000 Well, you and every Power Hour listener out there.

00:14:24.000 Or, yes, you sir, Bruce Lawrence, and every Genesis listener out there.

00:14:30.000 Well, he has just published Messages to the World, the statements of Osama Bin Laden, a book translating Bin Laden's writings.

00:14:36.000 He is skeptical.

00:14:37.000 The guy who wrote the book on his messages is skeptical of Thursday's message.

00:14:41.000 But you know what?

00:14:43.000 I'm skeptical of Bruce Lawrence's message.

00:14:46.000 Because when you read his reasons why, they're not the real reasons.

00:14:50.000 It's another rabbit trail for you to follow.

00:14:54.000 Lawrence says, it was like a voice from the grave.

00:14:57.000 He thinks Bin Laden is dead and has doubts about the tape.

00:15:00.000 Lawrence recently analyzed more than 20 complete speeches and interviews of the Al-Qaeda leader for the book.

00:15:06.000 He says the new message is missing several key elements.

00:15:09.000 Well, if he believed all the other 20 messages, then I don't believe him now.

00:15:13.000 That's my position.

00:15:14.000 There's nothing, he says, in this from the Koran.

00:15:19.000 Oh.

00:15:19.000 Okay.

00:15:20.000 He, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim, Lawrence said, He quotes scripture in defense of his actions.

00:15:26.000 There's no quotations from the Quran in the excerpts that we got.

00:15:30.000 No reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities.

00:15:33.000 Okay, that's supposed to be a reason that we don't pay any attention to this.

00:15:37.000 Doesn't fly with me.

00:15:39.000 When the CIA confirms the voice on the tape is Bin Laden's, and by the way, this time the CIA did confirm it is Bin Laden.

00:15:47.000 Now remember, all the past times It's been allegedly Osama Bin Laden could be most likely Osama Bin Laden.

00:15:57.000 Now they've out and out said this is the voice of Osama Bin Laden but unfortunately you didn't get to hear it so I mean there's no way we can test that.

00:16:05.000 Lawrence questions when it was recorded.

00:16:06.000 He says the timing of the release could be to divert attention from last week's US airstrike in Pakistan.

00:16:12.000 I'm glad he agrees with me on that.

00:16:13.000 The strike targeted Bin Laden's deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri So if he believes in Ayman al-Zarari, you know, he's the physician who's number two, who always has a gun behind him whenever he does an interview.

00:16:23.000 Well, it led to the failed military operations where America got blamed, but the people who are really to blame are the ones who provided the intelligence.

00:16:33.000 I think this is an effort to say we're not going to be looking at the terrible incident and about what happened.

00:16:39.000 Now he's talking about Pakistan, evidently.

00:16:41.000 Another element that Lawrence takes issue with is Bin Laden's latest message is its length.

00:16:46.000 Now look how weak this is.

00:16:47.000 The length of the message is only 10 minutes.

00:16:50.000 The shortest part of this was 18 minutes.

00:16:52.000 See, nothing has anything to do with anything.

00:16:55.000 I think that Mr. Lawrence is a rabbit trail.

00:16:58.000 Now, at the same time you understand that we want to go get Iran, get Iran, get Iran. 0.98

00:17:02.000 All terrorists are bad. 1.00

00:17:03.000 All Muslims are bad. 1.00

00:17:04.000 Just, you know, put them all together and let God sort them out. 0.99

00:17:08.000 The reason that I think that Joe Carroll, who is this poor 28-year-old reporter, I mean, how sympathetic would you be if a Halliburton welder got, and I'm not putting down Halliburton welders, please don't misunderstand, but how sympathetic would you be to go to war because a Halliburton welder who was making $180,000 every six months got kidnapped?

00:17:41.000 Wouldn't work, right?

00:17:42.000 So we've got Jill Conrad, who really cares about the Iraqi people, who was over there to expose the atrocities of Iraq, with the Christian Science Monitor.

00:17:51.000 That will get your attention, right?

00:17:53.000 Now that's going to pull your heart strings just a little bit more.

00:17:56.000 Well, that's who they're using now.

00:17:58.000 And I mean using.

00:18:00.000 And I think it is so sad.

00:18:02.000 And remember, Christian Science Monitor might be getting their hands slapped.

00:18:06.000 Might, I say.

00:18:07.000 Because remember the article they did?

00:18:09.000 That there's a thousand times the amount of normal background radiation in Iraq now because of depleted uranium?

00:18:16.000 Too bad, you shouldn't have done the story.

00:18:18.000 Now your girl is missing.

00:18:20.000 Oh, could they be that mean?

00:18:22.000 Well, let's think. 1.00

00:18:23.000 If they could kill 3,000 people in New York City, could they be that mean? 1.00

00:18:28.000 Yes, they could. 0.96

00:18:29.000 So, Jill Carroll is the victim now.

00:18:32.000 Now, why would the Iraqis pick Jill Carroll, who's over there exposing the Iraqi people's interests. 1.00

00:18:39.000 Really, that's the first thought that came to my mind.

00:18:41.000 I mean, she's been trying to help the Iraqis and help their cause, and the Science Christian Monitor has been trying to expose what the United States has done to the entire region with the DU issue.

00:18:53.000 They also did a series about the Gulf War illness several years ago.

00:18:57.000 I mean, the Christian Science Monitor has been trying to help the Iraqi people.

00:19:00.000 So why don't they go get some general in the Green Zone? 0.83

00:19:03.000 If they want to make a statement, no, they're not going to do that.

00:19:08.000 Because I don't think we're going to go get our own guys.

00:19:10.000 Well, that remains to be seen.

00:19:14.000 I may be proven wrong on that one.

00:19:16.000 So, now we've got this alleged message though from Osama Bin Laden that says another attack is in the works.

00:19:25.000 And he says the reason we haven't already done it is because we're busy planning the next one.

00:19:31.000 Duh! 1.00

00:19:31.000 This appeals to Bubba on the couch. 1.00

00:19:33.000 I have to tell you.

00:19:34.000 And the next one is going to be in the heart of the land.

00:19:39.000 I wonder what that means.

00:19:41.000 Heartland?

00:19:42.000 Heart of the land?

00:19:44.000 We'll be right back.

00:19:45.000 Michael Fortier is going to be released from prison and Dr. Doug Rocky is upset at the treatment he's getting.

00:19:52.000 We'll tell you about that.

00:19:52.000 Stay tuned after this four-minute break.

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00:24:16.000 At first the truth was broadcast for all to see and hear.

00:24:21.000 I think he said another bomb.

00:24:23.000 Oh my God, another bomb!

00:24:24.000 People ran in fear.

00:24:26.000 The helicopter flied by, but the traitor wasn't there.

00:24:31.000 Sophisticated bombs were found, but vanishing things.

00:24:36.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.

00:24:40.000 Of course, the name of the song is, OK, Can You See?

00:24:44.000 And it's on the album, Music to Die For.

00:24:47.000 This is Dave Arnquist.

00:24:49.000 And Joyce Riley, you can get that by calling 877-817-9829, and you will get the Bush bumper music, you call it.

00:24:58.000 I call it the Bush Funny Music.

00:25:00.000 But you can get that by calling 877-817-9829.

00:25:05.000 You buy the CD for $15 and you get the Bush Funny Music free.

00:25:11.000 The Bush Bonus Bumper Disc.

00:25:13.000 Yes.

00:25:14.000 Okay.

00:25:15.000 Michael Fortier is going to be released from prison today.

00:25:19.000 Of course you recall he was the star witness Some said he was the star set-up witness against Tim McVeigh.

00:25:28.000 The whole idea now is to resurrect the Oklahoma City bombing atrocity, so that's what they're doing now, is dragging out of the back room all of these poor people who have suffered horribly over the past ten years, dragging them in front of the media and, oh wasn't it horrible when your loved one died.

00:25:45.000 How bad did it feel when your loved one died?

00:25:48.000 How much did you hurt when your loved one died?

00:25:50.000 Tell us how much you cried when your... I mean, it's so... it is disgusting! 0.97

00:25:54.000 And they're using this as an excuse to bring them all out again and remind everybody of Oklahoma City.

00:26:00.000 So, Mr. Fortier is going to be released to his wife and two children.

00:26:03.000 He's been in jail for 10 years.

00:26:05.000 He's obviously paid his dues.

00:26:08.000 And now he's going to be getting out today.

00:26:10.000 But just the tragedy though of using these people again from Oklahoma City is so sad when we know who the real, real people were behind the operation.

00:26:20.000 Okay, I want to move to a couple of other things here.

00:26:24.000 There's a listener that is fed up with orange and blue, Dave.

00:26:27.000 This is dedicated to you.

00:26:29.000 Fed up with orange and blue.

00:26:30.000 And by the way, we have authenticated this quote from George Bush, which at the bottom of the hour, have your tape players going, you are not going to believe this man is representing you.

00:26:42.000 She handed this to me just as we were going on the air, about 30 seconds.

00:26:45.000 I started reading this and this was crazy.

00:26:47.000 You are not going to believe it.

00:26:48.000 Now let me get to this letter from a listener.

00:26:51.000 And Mike in York, PA is not happy about the orange and blue issue.

00:26:56.000 Listen to this.

00:26:57.000 And I will tell you it's getting worse every single day.

00:27:00.000 Hi Joyce and Dave, just wanted to drop you a line and comment on the ridiculous amount of orange and blue creeping into every last show and TV commercial.

00:27:08.000 The use of colorization to existing commercials continues.

00:27:13.000 You go, boy!

00:27:15.000 Mike and I are on the same wavelength.

00:27:17.000 I found me a buddy out there.

00:27:19.000 I found somebody who can see what's going on. 0.95

00:27:23.000 He says, the colorization continues and it seems the idiots making these commercials can't have even a single scene without the ugly orange, and this includes a more subdued but equally obvious red-orange, there you go right there Dave, I've been telling you about the red-orange, in it somewhere. 0.96

00:27:41.000 It's driving me crazy, you and me Mike. 0.98

00:27:44.000 It's working on us, isn't it?

00:27:45.000 Also the extensive use of those subtle blue filters on commercials too.

00:27:50.000 And Dave always says, oh, that's because the cameramen are outside and they use a blue filter.

00:27:55.000 No!

00:27:56.000 It's intentional.

00:27:57.000 Like the Volvo commercials.

00:27:59.000 Notice the faint blue cast the cars take.

00:28:02.000 Every single car on TV that's being sold this year is either blue or orange.

00:28:07.000 It's the filter. 1.00

00:28:09.000 I want to say it's a filter, stupid. 1.00

00:28:11.000 How about commercials where every dolt is walking around in a blue or orange shirt? 1.00

00:28:16.000 Now, I went downtown for sales yesterday, and I didn't see anybody walking around together in blue and orange.

00:28:23.000 Well, but you do on TV every place.

00:28:25.000 The Sprint commercial has been switched over as well as Office Max logo, which used to be red for those who have more than two memory cells in their brains.

00:28:34.000 Oh, I like this guy, Mike.

00:28:36.000 I like him.

00:28:37.000 I noticed the color switch on the sitcoms, too.

00:28:39.000 Like Everyone Loves Raymond, they wear bright orange T-shirts.

00:28:42.000 Well, the ultimate slap in the face For lots of folks, should have been the group picture on CNN with the new Supreme Court Justices.

00:28:50.000 Now see, this guy knows what's going on.

00:28:52.000 The newbie was there.

00:28:54.000 The new, newbie guy. 1.00

00:28:56.000 Grinning like an idiot! 1.00

00:28:58.000 With a bright orange necktie under the robe and the worst one was the older guys in the front with bright orange bow ties on. 1.00

00:29:07.000 The guys looked like freaking clowns. 1.00

00:29:10.000 Maybe you could mention this gradual switch and find someone who can explain this stupid trend. 1.00

00:29:14.000 Not only will I mention it, I am going to hit it home every single day until people see they're being used. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Is it something occult related?

00:29:22.000 Who knows?

00:29:23.000 But it seems the masses are blind and I'm getting sick of it everywhere. 0.90

00:29:27.000 Sorry for the ramming.

00:29:28.000 No, I'm not, Mike.

00:29:29.000 I love it.

00:29:30.000 Take care.

00:29:31.000 Never stop.

00:29:32.000 You guys are doing a great job.

00:29:33.000 And by the way, he says... Oh, there's one more thing we've got to check out.

00:29:37.000 One more thing he says. 1.00

00:29:38.000 One more idiot area. 1.00

00:29:40.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

00:29:41.000 Stay tuned.

00:29:42.000 Three minute break.

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00:31:58.000 Hello friends, Alex Jones here with an important question.

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00:33:04.000 Okay, this is a song about symbolism and color.

00:33:07.000 Yeah.

00:33:10.000 It has to be blue.

00:33:14.000 It has to be blue.

00:33:16.000 You're asking me why, when choosing my tie, what colors I do.

00:33:25.000 What color to win?

00:33:29.000 What color to spin?

00:33:34.000 According to dad, bright colors are bad and motivation is sin.

00:33:39.000 A subliminal tool to keep you all fooled. 0.90

00:33:48.000 Not the power hour.

00:33:49.000 Emblem you see a lot on TV and in public school.

00:33:57.000 The U.N.

00:33:58.000 is there, and soon is the hour.

00:34:01.000 The U.S.

00:34:01.000 will collapse, and we'll give them the power.

00:34:05.000 And when we're all through, the color we'll do, will be U.N.

00:34:10.000 blue.

00:34:12.000 Yeah!

00:34:15.000 I want you To get up now.

00:34:18.000 I want all of you to get up out of your chairs.

00:34:22.000 I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!

00:34:32.000 Yes!

00:34:33.000 I want you to get up right now.

00:34:35.000 Get up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell, I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!

00:34:43.000 How many stations is this going on?

00:34:46.000 It's all there on TV.

00:34:50.000 Yeah, it's here and it's there.

00:34:53.000 Just look anywhere.

00:34:55.000 It's not hard to do.

00:34:58.000 And when they come to town, you won't really care.

00:35:02.000 You'll be used to their blue, cause it was everywhere.

00:35:06.000 So my tribe that's blue, sends a message to you.

00:35:10.000 The U.N.

00:35:11.000 It is blue.

00:35:12.000 I don't want to try to take this anymore.

00:35:16.000 It's blue.

00:35:18.000 Whoa.

00:35:19.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:35:20.000 Oh! 0.60

00:35:21.000 Oh, that is good.

00:35:22.000 That is good.

00:35:23.000 Well, listeners, I do believe the new colors of the United States or of the world, you know, whatever they choose to have, it's going to be light blue and orange.

00:35:32.000 And I think we're sick and tired of seeing this rammed down our throats.

00:35:36.000 It's a message to all of the elite out there that they are making their mark.

00:35:40.000 Let me tell you one last thing from Mike and PA.

00:35:42.000 Love this guy.

00:35:44.000 By the way, he said, check out MSN.com main page this morning.

00:35:48.000 It's there too. 1.00

00:35:49.000 Look in the center of the page at the two idiots drinking beer with a deer in the headlights look. 0.99

00:35:55.000 The picture is captioned, Best Super Bowl Bars in 25 Cities. 1.00

00:36:00.000 You may have to hit the back or next arrows.

00:36:02.000 On the ever-changing little screen box, but it's there.

00:36:05.000 The two guys in orange and blue.

00:36:09.000 Oh, man.

00:36:09.000 Okay, well, anyway, welcome back to the Friday edition.

00:36:12.000 This is Dave von Kleist.

00:36:13.000 And Joyce Riley.

00:36:14.000 Okay, okay.

00:36:15.000 I can't help it, folks.

00:36:17.000 Just bear with me.

00:36:18.000 I just, I got this handed to me.

00:36:19.000 This is too good.

00:36:20.000 If this man is really leading this country, Well, this is the worst.

00:36:25.000 I have to set the table here.

00:36:26.000 Now, first of all, I want to thank Shirley up there in Kansas City, listening in on KCXL AM 1140 up there.

00:36:32.000 She sent me a new calendar of Bushisms. 0.76

00:36:35.000 Yes, thank you, Shirley.

00:36:37.000 Thank you so much.

00:36:38.000 But I tell you, I have to step outside of that, because there are so many that he's said this past year.

00:36:43.000 I've got to share with you a couple.

00:36:44.000 Then I've got the big, bad blooper of all time here.

00:36:49.000 Listen to this one.

00:36:49.000 He said, he said, I think younger workers, first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits.

00:36:55.000 The government promises that have been promised benefits we can't keep.

00:36:59.000 That's just the way it is.

00:37:00.000 I mean, can you?

00:37:02.000 There's so much confusion here.

00:37:06.000 Alright, I'll skip on it.

00:37:07.000 She wants to do the news and I want to get to this thing here, but that's okay.

00:37:11.000 Here we go.

00:37:12.000 He said, last year, here we go.

00:37:16.000 Because all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers.

00:37:21.000 For example, how benefits are calculated.

00:37:24.000 For example, it is on the table.

00:37:26.000 Whether or not benefits raised upon wage increases or price increases.

00:37:31.000 There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered.

00:37:34.000 And when you couple that, those different cost drivers affecting those, changing with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised or more likely to be Or closer delivered to that has been promised.

00:37:48.000 Does that make any sense to you?

00:37:49.000 It's kind of muddled.

00:37:51.000 Look, look, look.

00:37:53.000 There's a series of things that can be, like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages as opposed to the increase of prices.

00:38:02.000 Some have suggested that we calculate the benefits will rise based upon inflation Supposed to wage increases.

00:38:10.000 There's a reform that would help solve the red if we were to put that into effect.

00:38:15.000 In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.

00:38:23.000 And as he looked out into the audience, there was complete silence and every mouth was open and every eye said, blink.

00:38:37.000 What is he saying? 0.79

00:38:39.000 This is sick. 0.52

00:38:40.000 This is sad.

00:38:42.000 I mean, and there are people that say, well, George Bush is doing a good job.

00:38:45.000 I support George Bush.

00:38:46.000 All these congressmen, what is wrong with them?

00:38:49.000 I'll tell you what, they are bought and paid for, or blackmailed.

00:38:52.000 They have to be, to be able to say that this man is the, what, he's the best thing that ever happened to this country.

00:38:58.000 No, he is not, and there's proof of it.

00:39:01.000 This is stunning.

00:39:02.000 This is stunning.

00:39:03.000 And this is consistent.

00:39:04.000 At least you can give him that.

00:39:06.000 I mean, in regard to looking at the damage from the hurricane, he said, it's totally wiped out.

00:39:13.000 It's devastating.

00:39:14.000 It's got to be doubly devastating from the ground.

00:39:17.000 And then he said, we look forward to hearing your vision.

00:39:21.000 What?

00:39:22.000 We look forward to hearing your vision.

00:39:24.000 He also said, wow, Brazil is big.

00:39:29.000 This man is our president?

00:39:29.000 I know.

00:39:32.000 Oh, he doesn't know anything.

00:39:33.000 You know, is it any wonder that he says he doesn't like to read?

00:39:38.000 Okay, let me move on to a couple of other things.

00:39:39.000 I want to address Super Bowl because this weekend there's going to be a game with the Broncos, Denver Broncos, whose color is orange and blue.

00:39:46.000 Just thought I'd throw that in.

00:39:47.000 And I think we need to look at what was in the USA Today.

00:39:51.000 And I want to thank Leanne for sending this.

00:39:52.000 Now those of you who don't know what we're talking about with regard to the Super Bowl, because I don't care about the Super Bowl.

00:39:57.000 I never even pay attention to any TV.

00:40:00.000 I don't even know how many Uh, goals it takes to make a, you know, I don't even know, I don't know anything about it.

00:40:05.000 I don't care.

00:40:06.000 And I, and I'm giving my disclaimer.

00:40:07.000 I know nothing about sports.

00:40:08.000 However, I am interested though, when it comes to our attention, that somebody says that the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to win every game now, including the Super Bowl game itself, and they were not even a wild card at the time.

00:40:21.000 And that person, Super Bowl Steve, seems to have known that.

00:40:24.000 Well, listen to this.

00:40:26.000 Leanne says that Super Bowl Steve referred to the January 6th issue of USA Today with the sports page ads.

00:40:32.000 Well, she said, in the January 5th issue of USA Today, I about fell over.

00:40:37.000 On page 4C, you will see the Texas Bullhorns, and it says, Horns of Plenty.

00:40:46.000 And also, picture of the helmet with the horns.

00:40:49.000 On page 5C, it says, Watch the world's best players compete for the world's.

00:40:57.000 Ooh.

00:40:58.000 On page 7C, Tiger Woods' header says, Changing Course.

00:41:03.000 And the subtitles read, Ground to make up.

00:41:08.000 The long drive.

00:41:09.000 Are we there yet?

00:41:11.000 Time to make a move.

00:41:13.000 The clock is ticking.

00:41:14.000 And the end of an era.

00:41:19.000 I didn't know if you'd be interested in hearing about this, but I found it to be very scary.

00:41:23.000 I think the Super Bowl guy is on to something.

00:41:26.000 Have a great day.

00:41:27.000 You two are awesome, Leanne and Missouri. 0.87

00:41:28.000 You are awesome also.

00:41:30.000 Thank you very, very much for sending that.

00:41:35.000 And to Len, I want to thank you for sending this.

00:41:38.000 Yahoo says, which presidents were left-handed?

00:41:41.000 Need a helping hand?

00:41:42.000 Well, a search on left-handers led to the following.

00:41:49.000 Here's the presidents that were left-handed.

00:41:51.000 James Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton.

00:42:04.000 We notice that four of the last five commanders-in-chief wrote with their left hand.

00:42:12.000 This, of course, begs the question, which current presidential candidates are left-handed?

00:42:16.000 Well, they look down, and this is for the last election.

00:42:18.000 That Bill Bradley was the only one who was left-handed.

00:42:22.000 And they found out also that Steve Forbes is left-handed and H. Ross Perot is left-handed.

00:42:28.000 Is there any meaning to this?

00:42:29.000 Dunno.

00:42:31.000 But kind of interesting, I think.

00:42:35.000 Let's see.

00:42:36.000 Also, I want to thank Marcus for sending this.

00:42:38.000 Please pray for rain.

00:42:40.000 I think this is an excellent idea.

00:42:42.000 Let's start a prayer chain for rain.

00:42:44.000 If, when you get this email, you will stop a minute and pray very strongly for rain, I think we can make a difference.

00:42:49.000 Just pray for the people who have lost homes and everything they have.

00:42:53.000 Friends, we need the rain, both here in Texas and Oklahoma.

00:42:56.000 We are all being affected by it.

00:42:58.000 Through our faith in God and our prayers, I believe we can succeed.

00:43:02.000 A very valid request for prayer.

00:43:04.000 I hope you will join this effort and pass it on as well.

00:43:07.000 Also, I think we need to pray for the firefighters, especially the volunteer ones who have worked constantly without pay to try to keep us all safe.

00:43:17.000 And I have to tell you on the sad side, I have had lots of letters from people wanting help for veterans, people who are involved in fighting for veterans, And people who are succumbing to the veterans.

00:43:30.000 I mean, veterans' plights of illness. 0.91

00:43:33.000 And I am so sad.

00:43:34.000 I don't even know how we are going to respond to all these people that are coming out of the woodworks needing help now.

00:43:40.000 And there's far too many.

00:43:42.000 I mean, no one organization can handle it.

00:43:45.000 And when the government says we can't handle all the PTSD claims and we can't handle all the PTSD issues, well, if the government says that and they've got, you know, blue coups of huge VA hospitals, how are we going to do that?

00:43:57.000 I don't know.

00:43:58.000 And I don't want to, you know, I just don't want to read these stories right now because it just makes me It hurts.

00:44:05.000 It really does.

00:44:06.000 But I do, I'm going to get to Doug Rocky and why he's upset.

00:44:09.000 And he has every reason to be upset for the way he's being treated.

00:44:12.000 But let me tell you, first of all, Google is now resisting the U.S.

00:44:15.000 subpoena and search data.

00:44:17.000 They are saying, nope, Justice Department, you're not going to have it.

00:44:20.000 Well, let's see how long Google lasts then.

00:44:22.000 Yeah, this comes out of San Francisco.

00:44:24.000 As of yesterday, the Justice Department has asked a federal judge to compel Google, the Internet search giant, to turn over records on millions of its users.

00:44:35.000 Search queries as part of the government's effort to uphold, of course, online pornography law.

00:44:41.000 Google has been refusing requests since a subpoena was first issued last August, even as three of its competitors agreed to provide information according to court documents made public this week.

00:44:53.000 Google asserts that the request is unnecessary, overly broad, and would be onerous to comply with, would jeopardize its trade secrets, and could expose identifying information about its users.

00:45:04.000 The dispute with Google comes as the government is moving aggressively on several fronts to obtain data on Internet activity to achieve its law enforcement goals.

00:45:15.000 To have their way with you and know every single thing about what you do, who you talk to, where you go on the Internet, what your interests are, what you read at the library.

00:45:27.000 Are you seeing a trend here?

00:45:30.000 Well, of course Google says we're going to resist.

00:45:34.000 We'll see how long that lasts.

00:45:39.000 A cancer treatment in the spice cabinet?

00:45:41.000 Yes!

00:45:42.000 A growing body of research suggests the spice turmeric has potent anti-cancer activity.

00:45:48.000 Now we told you this months and months and months ago.

00:45:51.000 Power Hour was out there leading the front telling you about turmeric so that you could get your curcumin in advance of the price going up and in advance of there not being any.

00:46:01.000 And I'll tell you why in just a second.

00:46:03.000 But the American Cancer Society is saying this.

00:46:06.000 This is a news release from the American Cancer Society.

00:46:11.000 Researchers have now launched a slew of human trials to find out how powerful it may be.

00:46:16.000 No, they've released a slew of human trials so they can patent it and take it off the market and make it so that only they can have it.

00:46:26.000 I think the promise is enormous, says Bhagarat Agarwal, PhD, Chief of the Cytokine Research Lab in the Department of Experimental Therapeutics at UTMD Medical Anderson Cancer Center.

00:46:39.000 That's where Dr. Garth Nicholson was, by the way.

00:46:42.000 Agarwal has conducted numerous lab and animal studies of turmeric and its primary component curcumin.

00:46:49.000 And recently gave a lecture on the topic at the Annual Conference of the Society for Integrative Oncology.

00:46:55.000 We don't come to you with phony false claims.

00:46:58.000 We come to you with the truth.

00:47:00.000 And here it is.

00:47:01.000 Turmeric, as you know, is a yellow powder made from the roots of a plant in the ginger family.

00:47:08.000 It is the main ingredient in curry powder, widely used in Indian and South Asian cooking.

00:47:13.000 Well, many cultures also use turmeric for medicinal purposes, to treat everything from heartburn to arthritis.

00:47:21.000 Now, I can tell you that we gave it to a Power Hour dog who has become a new dog.

00:47:29.000 This dog had no personality for five years.

00:47:32.000 We considered mentally challenged.

00:47:34.000 The dog had no interest in anything.

00:47:37.000 I mean, we gave it.

00:47:38.000 Dave gets a credit for this.

00:47:40.000 He said, let's try Kirkman.

00:47:42.000 Unbelievable results.

00:47:44.000 The dog's tail is wagging.

00:47:46.000 He's always there to greet everybody.

00:47:48.000 He is happy.

00:47:49.000 I mean, he's got to be a whole lot happier.

00:47:52.000 It is amazing.

00:47:53.000 It is just amazing.

00:47:55.000 Well the idea is to try turmeric against cancer developed as researchers learned about the role that inflammation plays in cancer.

00:48:03.000 Turmeric and curcumin are anti-inflammatory.

00:48:06.000 That has been described in traditional medicine like Ayurveda for thousands of years.

00:48:11.000 But Ayurveda, of course, was not tested.

00:48:15.000 It only worked for thousands of years.

00:48:17.000 That's the only test that it had.

00:48:19.000 Well, lab and animal studies now show effect on many cancers.

00:48:22.000 The early lab research that Agarwal and others have done focuses on curcumin, the most active compound in turmeric.

00:48:30.000 The studies show that curcumin can indeed slow inflammation.

00:48:34.000 It also appears to slow the spread of cancer and metastasis, slows down the growth of new tumor blood vessels, which is called angiogenesis, and causes cancer cells to die the way normal cells do, which is apoptosis.

00:48:51.000 What's more, these effects don't appear to be limited to just one type of cancer.

00:48:55.000 Curcumin has shown effects in lab studies against metastatic melanoma, Am I taking it?

00:49:00.000 You bet!

00:49:00.000 Is Dave taking it?

00:49:01.000 lymphoma, and other cancers.

00:49:03.000 Most recently, Agaral published a study in the Journal of Clinical Cancer Research showing that eating curcumin could keep breast cancer from spreading to the lungs, at least in mice.

00:49:13.000 In addition, it appears to enhance the positive effects of the chemotherapy drug, Paxlitell, and lessen the severity of the side effects.

00:49:21.000 Am I taking it?

00:49:22.000 You bet.

00:49:23.000 Is Dave taking it?

00:49:24.000 You bet.

00:49:26.000 However, not all research on curcumin has had such positive results.

00:49:29.000 At least one study, we need to be honest with you, suggests that curcumin may inhibit the action of some chemotherapy drugs.

00:49:38.000 So just, you need to know that if you're on chemotherapy, don't take, I wouldn't take it, personally, curcumin.

00:49:44.000 At MD Anderson alone, Agaral said that doctors are testing curcumin in multiple myeloma and advanced pancreatic cancer.

00:49:52.000 The institution is also seeking the funding for a study of curcumin in women with breast cancer.

00:49:57.000 So let me just add, if you're thinking about taking it, you need to get the type, or it's being advised now by many physicians, to get the type that has peperine.

00:50:07.000 Piperine is an additive that really, really complements it and makes it work a lot stronger.

00:50:14.000 We have it at the Power Hour.

00:50:15.000 We got it eight months ago, about eight months, six or eight months ago, when I heard this study was going to come out.

00:50:21.000 This was published January 2nd.

00:50:23.000 All I can say is, listeners, beware.

00:50:27.000 Get it while you can.

00:50:28.000 Now, here is one very positive thing.

00:50:31.000 For those of you that are vets, we've had some Curcumin donated and some Serazine donated by Robert.

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00:50:39.000 And if you're a vet, if you want to try Curcumin and Serozyme, then you write us a letter, and you send us some kind of proof that you're in the military, and tell us your situation, why you need the Curcumin.

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00:51:02.000 People who use supplements are learning more about herbs and their effectiveness, and so are the people who do the research and make the supplements.

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00:54:09.000 They tell us everything from youth to religion.

00:54:12.000 At the same time they sell us our war.

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00:54:32.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of The Power Hour.

00:54:36.000 We're coming up on 55 minutes past the hour, and a quick reminder for those of you that are listening on the international shortwave, if you're dialed into WHRI 7.520, you'll have to change your receiver in about four minutes to 11.785 for the second and third hours of the broadcast.

00:54:52.000 Such is the case with the listeners on WWCR 5.765.

00:54:56.000 We'll also change in a few minutes to 7.465 for the remainder of the program.

00:55:01.000 Coming up in the next hour, we'll be talking with Don Markham.

00:55:04.000 He has an article that's been published in the Idaho Observer, and it's an analysis of the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.

00:55:14.000 And it's a rather important piece of legislation that just sort of got shoved right through, and there are ramifications.

00:55:21.000 We'll be talking about that in the next hour.

00:55:24.000 This is Dave Van Kwist.

00:55:25.000 And Joyce Riley.

00:55:26.000 Let me tell you why.

00:55:26.000 Tom Cahill is the Power Hour team member of the day.

00:55:30.000 Tom Cahill has written a lot of very good things on the internet, and we've posted some of his stories.

00:55:35.000 But he also has guts, and he also is putting his actions behind his message.

00:55:41.000 He went to a news conference or a meeting, town hall meeting of Congressman Thompson, Mike Thompson of North Carolina, and where the Fort Bragg Advocate News carried this story.

00:55:57.000 I think it's important to understand here that there are people that are willing to go up and make a stand and not afraid of, oh my gosh, what will they say?

00:56:07.000 Well, listen to this.

00:56:08.000 Thompson believes Well, he's talking about refocus the priorities of the American people.

00:56:14.000 Thompson presented his plan for Iraqi withdrawal, saying that Congress should pledge never to build military bases and promise publicly that Iraqi oil will be the property of the Iraqi people.

00:56:27.000 Well, Thompson believes those actions would slow the number of volunteers coming from around the Middle East to help the Iraq insurgency and slow the aggressive troop exit, which will begin this summer.

00:56:37.000 Tom Cahill, you go boy, of Fort Bragg, a member of the Veterans for Peace, presented Thompson a copy of the film Beyond Treason by the Gulf War Veterans Association.

00:56:50.000 He challenged Thompson to investigate whether the deaths of 10,000 to 15,000 Gulf War veterans in 1991 was related to the military's use of depleted uranium.

00:57:01.000 Thompson said he has co-sponsored a bill related to the DU investigation.

00:57:06.000 Cahill spotted a tiny pin on Thompson's lapel and interrupted the congressman saying, is that a combat infantryman's pin?

00:57:16.000 Thompson's response was, I never leave home without it.

00:57:20.000 Thompson served in combat with the U.S.

00:57:22.000 Army as a Staff Sergeant Platoon Leader in the 173rd Airborne Brigade where he was wounded and received a Purple Heart.

00:57:29.000 Nothing ever enraged Thompson as much as the right As the right-wing talk show host and the Republican National Committee when they called him a traitor for his pre-war investigation and his pre-war investigatory trip to Iraq.

00:57:42.000 Anyway, I just want to say thank you, kudos, you go boy, yeah, we're going to be talking to Congressman Thompson.

00:57:48.000 Now, Doug Rocky is furious.

00:57:52.000 He has been attacked over and over again.

00:57:54.000 If you go to the internet, you will see where they're attacking the messenger.

00:57:58.000 And his comment is, he said, Joyce, I am sending this out.

00:58:01.000 I am sick and tired of the shoot the messenger campaign on me.

00:58:05.000 While they ignore AR 700-48, which is the army regulation that says they must wear respirators, suits, and clean up their mess.

00:58:15.000 And TB9, I'm not going to go into that.

00:58:18.000 And all the orders, and ignore my actual duties, accomplishments, as if they're attacking me, they do not have to comply with the regulations.

00:58:27.000 I'm going to come back and talk to you about this, because a guy named Dan Fahey, who says he's an expert, has tried to bring down Doug Rocky.

00:58:27.000 He's absolutely right.

00:58:35.000 We'll be right back after this one minute, ten second break. 0.98

00:58:38.000 Or be a slave I'm here to follow my orders And stop this madman who's saying Thank you. 0.97

00:59:00.000 Thank you. 0.99

00:59:01.000 They tell me he'll use germ warfare and anyone who would must be completely insane.

00:59:09.000 While the flyboys run sorties, I'm putting on protective clothing from head to toe. 1.00

00:59:17.000 My Uncle Sam will protect me, because we stand for truth and honor, that's what I know.

00:59:26.000 That's what so many believe.

00:59:27.000 Welcome back to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.

00:59:31.000 This is Dave Van Clyste.

00:59:32.000 Enjoy Friday.

00:59:33.000 I'm going to get right to these statements of Dr. Doug Rocky.

00:59:35.000 He is upset.

00:59:36.000 He is very upset with very good reason.

00:59:40.000 He says to Dan Fahey, who is the gentleman who has been creating the stir over, a part of the stir over Doug's credentials, As you all know, Doug Rockey stars in Beyond Treason.

00:59:52.000 He stars in it because he was the chief whistleblower from the Department of Defense who was lighting a fire under the butt of the Department of Defense to get them to do something to take care of Gulf War veterans.

01:00:02.000 Well, their only response is, well, Doug's not credible.

01:00:05.000 It's not whether they're sick or not, it's just a repeat of everything for the past 50 years.

01:00:09.000 He says, Dr. Doug Rockey says, Dan, your continued public comments without any actual experience in any aspect of our work from Gulf War I until the present And your claim that you have promoted training and medical care since 1993 seems strange since you never mentioned in your recent public statements that I, Doug Rocky, was the U.S.

01:00:30.000 Army Health Physicist and Team Medic on the 3rd U.S.

01:00:34.000 Army DU Team during the Gulf War I, who established the need for and initial still-ignored medical care protocols and cleaned up the mess to include on-site casualty medical care while you were never involved.

01:00:48.000 Number two, that I and my team members wrote the after-action reports and that you were never involved.

01:00:53.000 Number three, that I was the U.S.

01:00:55.000 Army Depleted Uranium Project Director who did the research at the Nevada test site, wrote the training and education programs, and was a primary author of the U.S.

01:01:04.000 Army Regulation 700-48 and the D.U.C.T.T.

01:01:09.000 while you were never involved.

01:01:11.000 Number four, that my primary efforts have always been to ensure that DOD officials Comply with all provisions of the U.S.

01:01:20.000 Army Regulations 700-48 and all the numerous but ignored orders that mandate medical care through environmental remediation while you do not even mention these documents or but ignored legal requirements.

01:01:34.000 Number five, that you have absolutely no primary experience Working with me or my team to base your comments upon because you do not know what we saw, learned, verified during research and on-site operations or what has happened to our health.

01:01:49.000 Your comment that no one who died who lived in central Illinois is an insult to the widow, his family and all of us who know who were his friends.

01:02:00.000 You did not know the person and had absolutely no knowledge of his military activities since you were never involved.

01:02:06.000 That you wrote His definitive claim that any military personnel that has been near the contamination will bring it back is laughable.

01:02:15.000 Anyway, he goes on and says the 700-48 that I wrote and whose compliance is mandatory as ordered by General Eric Shinseki.

01:02:25.000 Maybe you would like to tell the medical personnel who treated contaminated casualties We're going to have him on next week and it's time that I think we address the issue with the Department of Defense.

01:02:34.000 Fahey said so even though you have absolutely no first-hand experience and you ignore all the orders.

01:02:40.000 It goes on and on.

01:02:42.000 We are going to have him on next week, and it's time that I think we address the issue with the Department of Defense.

01:02:47.000 They are continuing to browbeat him.

01:02:49.000 It has been horrible since Beyond Treason came out.

01:02:52.000 The treatment that he has obtained. 0.76

01:02:54.000 This is disgusting.

01:02:56.000 You have somebody who is trying their very, very best with their last breath to tell the truth about depleted uranium and all he gets Is this an absolute character assassination?

01:03:07.000 You know, I'd like to address all the folks that are paid to listen to this broadcast and somehow subscribe to the philosophy and the methodology that you have to shoot the messenger because you don't want to face the message.

01:03:17.000 Keep in mind that the efforts of people like Major Doug Rocky, Dr. Doug Rocky, the efforts that he is making are there to protect you And if you participate in the demonization or ridicule or discrediting of this person, you're only shooting yourself in the foot and possibly affecting your children and the children yet to be born into your family.

01:03:42.000 I mean, you've got to go look in the mirror and figure out who the bad guys really are, because it's not us and it's not Doug.

01:03:47.000 We'll be right back after this three-minute break.

01:03:49.000 Stay tuned.

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01:07:01.000 This is Davon Kluist and Joyce Riley, and we all know knowledge is power.

01:07:05.000 Of course, that's why we call this the Power Hour.

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01:07:32.000 Anyone who's involved with high finance and banking might have a problem with today's broadcast.

01:07:39.000 And, uh, why, you might ask?

01:07:41.000 Well, I'm going to find out as well.

01:07:43.000 I have to tell you right off the bat.

01:07:44.000 Well, first of all, welcome to the hour number two of today's Friday installment of the Power Hour.

01:07:49.000 This is Dave Von Kleist and Joyce Riley.

01:07:51.000 And, uh, we're going to be talking this hour with, um, with Mark, um, sorry, With Don Markham.

01:07:58.000 And Don has written a very important analysis of the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.

01:08:07.000 He's been a paralegal for the past eight years.

01:08:10.000 He took it upon himself to learn about the banking industry and about the legality behind it because he could recognize that there was something really rotten in Denmark, as they say.

01:08:20.000 He's got his Bachelor of Science in History and in Political Science.

01:08:25.000 His graduate studies included oriental military history, and he's just an all-around inquisitive kind of guy that likes opening up cans of worms and see which way they crawl.

01:08:38.000 Apparently he's done exactly that with this analysis, which is published, as I understand, in the Idaho Observer.

01:08:45.000 Anyway, welcome to the broadcast, Don Markham.

01:08:50.000 I'm doing just fine, and you're going to have to have a little patience with me, because when it comes to high finance, bonds, stocks, investments, banking, all that type of stuff, that's not one of my strong areas.

01:09:04.000 Now, a lot of folks do understand the concept of bankruptcy, and they do understand that, hey, well, with the economy being what it is, There are a lot of folks that are falling into bankruptcy, or the threat of them falling into bankruptcy is looming large on the horizon.

01:09:21.000 So if you could just give a little bit of a background as to what bankruptcy has been, why we had bankruptcy laws in place for so many years, and then we can get into how this new legislation is going to affect all of that.

01:09:34.000 Okay, I'm going to back up just a tad here and go into a Uh, finance before we get into bankruptcy.

01:09:41.000 Okay, let me ask you right off the bat, are you on a cell phone?

01:09:44.000 I'm on a... There, I can pick up the other one.

01:09:47.000 Hold on.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, that would be good, because there's a very strange sound happening.

01:09:52.000 Okay, is that better?

01:09:53.000 That sounds better, yeah.

01:09:54.000 Okay, now, uh, everybody out there usually at some point in their life will go out and sign contracts, get involved in buying a house, a car, and basically involved in getting in debt.

01:10:09.000 And as long as everybody pays their debts, life is rosy.

01:10:14.000 It's only when things arrive or happen that may cause you to get in financial difficulty.

01:10:23.000 That's when things become a disaster.

01:10:28.000 And now, for over 200 years, our country has had bankruptcy Laws on the books in fact is to find the constitution that we should have bankruptcy and it's basically to grant people relief when they got themselves in certain situations which were beyond their control.

01:10:49.000 And that's been fairly well defined through federal law, which the bankruptcy code is found in Title 11 of the U.S.

01:10:58.000 Code.

01:11:02.000 Starting about eight years ago, maybe nine years ago, this is during the Clinton administration, the financial institutions, credit cards, banking, mortgage companies, HMO, hospitals, started pushing our legislators in Congress to revamp the bankruptcy code.

01:11:28.000 And originally, in 2001, they did pass Two versions that weren't agreed upon, and they had a conference, which is where they iron out the differences.

01:11:40.000 The only problem was it was scheduled for 9-11 on 2001, and we know what happened then.

01:11:46.000 And as a result, they put bankruptcy reform on the hold, and it wasn't until just this, well, actually April of 2005 did they finally go through with the new version.

01:12:01.000 Actually you had the leadership of both parties were pushing it.

01:12:06.000 And it'll be interesting to see what is going to happen as a result of the investigation into lobbying goes because there was a lot of last minute addendums put into this legislation and I'd be curious to see how that all plays out.

01:12:25.000 Okay, well, as you just mentioned, this is new legislation.

01:12:29.000 It went into effect this past October.

01:12:32.000 17th.

01:12:32.000 Right.

01:12:33.000 And my question to you is that how exactly is this particular piece of legislation different from the, say, former legislation in regard to bankruptcy?

01:12:44.000 Why should I care, in other words?

01:12:45.000 Okay.

01:12:46.000 I'm only going to deal with two types.

01:12:52.000 One that most people deal with, either a Chapter 7 or a Chapter 7.

01:12:56.000 Okay.

01:12:58.000 And those are the two that people get involved in.

01:13:02.000 All the other ones deal with the corporations and stuff, which I'm not going to deal with at the moment.

01:13:07.000 Basically, you have two types of bankruptcies.

01:13:12.000 Seven is full discharge, all automatic, where a 13 you go in, and then that's a repayment type.

01:13:21.000 I've got to tell you right now, if you get too technical, you're going to lose me and I think you'll lose a bunch of the folks out there.

01:13:28.000 Well, I don't know, like I said, I'm not high finance savvy, but if you get way off the bat here, I think we'll lose a couple folks, so I want to try to keep it as simple as possible.

01:13:40.000 Well, basically, as simple as possible is that they created a test to determine whether you can file for Bankruptcy.

01:13:50.000 First of all, you have to go through a program, you know, which teaches you about how to manage your debt.

01:13:58.000 And you have to get a certificate from it before you can even file bankruptcy of any kind.

01:14:05.000 And then if you get that certificate, you go and then you have to take what is known as a means test.

01:14:13.000 Now, the means test gives you a clue.

01:14:15.000 All the figures and determinations are set by the IRS.

01:14:19.000 I should give you a little... Oh, joy!

01:14:22.000 Alright, so every state is different.

01:14:25.000 It's like they have it for an individual, a couple, a two, a family of three, and a family of four.

01:14:31.000 Anyway, they have these figures, and it's like if you're poor enough, then you pass the first hurdle and you're allowed to file a Chapter 7.

01:14:41.000 Otherwise, if you go over these figures, you go into the repayment plan and a Chapter 13.

01:14:49.000 However, even if you're allowed to file the Chapter 7, and if you have as little as $167 extra a month that they can find available to pay to a creditor, or $10,000 over a course of five years, they'll move you back into the repayment plan to enter a Chapter 13.

01:15:11.000 Now, chapter 13 requires that you have to pay a minimum now of $20.

01:15:22.000 That's somewhat dishonest, but there are ways that's more than 25%.

01:15:32.000 But anyways, 25% and that was basically the credit card companies wanted that provision in there.

01:15:39.000 However, they're still allowed to charge you interest while you're in there.

01:15:43.000 And now at the same time, You have to go through a payment plan, you have to divulge it, and it has to be accepted by the court.

01:15:54.000 If you're unable to meet this plan, there is a way that they can remove you from a Chapter 13 and you're kind of on your own, if they do that.

01:16:05.000 Okay, let me just change gears a little bit here.

01:16:08.000 So far what you've been talking about is bankruptcy as far as a consumer is concerned.

01:16:11.000 A regular guy, you and me.

01:16:13.000 If I get up to my eyeballs in credit card debt and all of a sudden lose my job and everything, a lot of times there's just no other option.

01:16:23.000 Now, let's change gears a little bit.

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01:16:27.000 You've got the Enron situation there.

01:16:32.000 How would this apply towards all the big boys that rape and pillage a corporation and then file bankruptcy?

01:16:41.000 How does it affect them?

01:16:43.000 Or was this piece of legislation designed to work in their favor?

01:16:47.000 Well, the only thing that really changed for them It's been reported that it's their financial disclosure statements they have to sign and there are some penalties involved in this and that.

01:17:01.000 But as far as I can see, other than the financial disclosures, these things were on the books before and they just removed a lot of this stuff during the Clinton years.

01:17:13.000 But anyway, now they've put them back on the books.

01:17:18.000 That part's in play, but as far as some of the other bankruptcy things they changed, there is one provision they did change that may affect Enron.

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01:17:35.000 They then moved to other states like Texas and had their headquarters there because of what is known as the Homestead Exemption.

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01:18:02.000 Now it's the federal bankruptcy homestead exemption is only $125,000, where it was unlimited if you lived in Texas and Florida.

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01:18:16.000 Other than that, they didn't do much change as far as corporations go.

01:18:20.000 Okay, I'll tell you what, we've got a break coming up here, and I'm going through your article here, and I've got to be honest with you, like I said, when it comes to banking and financing and stuff like this, it's not a strong area of mine, but nonetheless, I could sort of understand exactly how this might work I could sort of understand exactly how this might work to their favor.

01:18:40.000 But you've got to look at all the numbers and the percentages and all that type of stuff.

01:18:43.000 Let's see if we can't get this right down to the bare bones minimum when we get back from this break.

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01:22:51.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday edition of the Power Hour.

01:23:09.000 Morning, morning, morning, morning, morning. .

01:23:18.000 Coming up on 25 minutes past the hour, whatever hour you're sitting in, this is Dave and Joyce.

01:23:22.000 Our guest this hour is Don Markham and he has contributed an article to the Idaho Observer.

01:23:29.000 Explaining a little bit about the new Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.

01:23:36.000 I mean that's a mouthful and trying to wrap your arms around this piece of legislation is very difficult for somebody like me.

01:23:44.000 Now I don't know about some of the other folks out there.

01:23:46.000 I know that there are people out there that have a much better understanding of banking and financing and interest rates and Bankruptcy laws.

01:23:55.000 But to the common meat and potatoes guy like myself, all I know is that there are so many people that have tons and tons of credit card debt and sooner or later it is indeed going to come back and bite you.

01:24:10.000 And apparently this piece of legislation is not necessarily what it It appears to be on the outside.

01:24:19.000 It has some hidden teeth to it.

01:24:21.000 That's what you're trying to tell us all, is it not, Mark?

01:24:23.000 I mean, Don, I'm sorry?

01:24:24.000 Yes, it is.

01:24:26.000 And the kind of relief you could have got before October 17th is totally gone.

01:24:31.000 In fact, this last year, the bankruptcy filings were the highest they ever had.

01:24:39.000 Which is one reason why the credit card companies are reporting that only four and a half percent of people are now behind in their credit cards.

01:24:48.000 So a lot of people did take advantage of this before it became an effect.

01:24:53.000 There's still a lot of people out there that don't know this law and what really is involved with it.

01:25:01.000 Okay, well if there was one particular difference that you could point out between the old bankruptcy law and this one, if there was one red flag, okay, in a nuts and bolts, meat and potato kind of way, how would you describe that flag?

01:25:17.000 What is that that's going to basically change your protection?

01:25:24.000 It's going to be real difficult to do a complete discharge of debt.

01:25:27.000 You're going to be in a repayment plan which will last up to five years.

01:25:32.000 And they can prevent you from refiling for eight years now where it used to be seven.

01:25:41.000 Okay, let me just paint a little picture.

01:25:43.000 Let's just say that I have a cottage industry.

01:25:47.000 I work at home.

01:25:50.000 I have everything that I own, everything I've saved for, everything I've worked for is in my home.

01:25:56.000 And my income, I make it from my home, and I have a fire.

01:26:00.000 My house burns down.

01:26:01.000 I lose everything.

01:26:03.000 I lose my savings.

01:26:04.000 I lose everything.

01:26:06.000 And yet I have, let's say, $200,000 worth of debt.

01:26:10.000 Okay, or say $100,000 worth of debt, and I have no choice but to file bankruptcy.

01:26:15.000 What's going to happen?

01:26:16.000 Well, okay.

01:26:18.000 First of all, I mean, before you get to file bankruptcy, you're going to have creditors coming after you.

01:26:25.000 That's going to be the reason why you're going to file bankruptcy.

01:26:28.000 Right.

01:26:29.000 And depending how long you wait to file bankruptcy, you may get dragged into court, you may get judgments against you.

01:26:38.000 And these all work to the advantage of the creditor, so I mean, because they can sell those instruments, you know, once they get a judgment.

01:26:44.000 Same way, and they get to write it off if you go into bankruptcy and get a discharge.

01:26:49.000 So there's advantages for them to pressure you.

01:26:53.000 Now, it sounds like with the kind of money you're talking about, you will be in a repayment plan under Chapter 13, which means that you will have to sit down Disclose all your assets and you've got to have income coming in to qualify for a chapter 13 if you have no income And you can't pile a chapter 7 you're out of luck Okay, that's something new and different

01:27:22.000 All right Well, then what do you what do you do?

01:27:28.000 Are they going to throw you into prison?

01:27:30.000 I'll give you an example out here in Oregon.

01:27:35.000 We don't have debtor's prisons like they did in the old days, but prisons are being turned into industrial compounds out here.

01:27:46.000 Oh, you mean like labor camps?

01:27:47.000 Well, let's put it this way.

01:27:49.000 50% of the people in the state penitentiary in Oregon are either there for back child support or driving.

01:27:55.000 They're not hardened criminals.

01:27:58.000 So it's not a stretch of the imagination with a few changes of laws that, you know, they could do it because in the state of Oregon, they go international out here and try to drum up business for the, you know, for the prisons out here, you know, for manufacturing and they offer Guaranteed workforce, you don't have to pay minimum wage, and you don't have to pay insurance benefits.

01:28:22.000 Well, maybe this is why they privatized so many of the prisons in the past 10, 20 years.

01:28:27.000 Maybe that's got something to do with it.

01:28:29.000 Well, they've been doing everything in one slice of time.

01:28:31.000 They started by, you know, with NAFTA and GATT, you know.

01:28:34.000 Yeah, I tell you what, hold on to that thought.

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01:32:14.000 This is Dave.

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01:35:14.000 Anyway, we're talking today with Don Markham, trying to sort out a very confusing and very difficult to understand subject about the Bankruptcy, Abuse, Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, and trying to sort out, find out where the hidden teeth of this particular piece of legislation is, went into effect October 17th of this last year.

01:35:34.000 Don, we have a couple of callers.

01:35:36.000 Do you want to finish up what you were trying to explain before we went to the break, or do you want to just go right to the calls?

01:35:41.000 Before we go to the calls, there are some strategies people can use.

01:35:47.000 Basically, the rich, what they do is they create entities and they own things via entities, whether it's limited liability corporations, limited partnerships, trusts, whatever.

01:36:04.000 People start buying things and putting them in those names now instead of transferring them in the future.

01:36:12.000 Things that they buy into those entities, it won't be part of the bankruptcy.

01:36:16.000 It can't be had or be brought into the bankruptcy proceeding or any other type of proceeding if somebody comes after you for a judgment.

01:36:27.000 If you try to transfer those things, it could get complicated.

01:36:30.000 But if you just create an entity, buy it in that entity name, there won't be a problem down the road.

01:36:36.000 Okay.

01:36:37.000 All right, I tell you what, let's just go right to the folks.

01:36:40.000 Some of the listeners will probably be able to ask better questions than I will on this particular subject, so let's go to New York and say hello to Scott.

01:36:46.000 We have a first-timer on the air.

01:36:48.000 Welcome aboard, Scott.

01:36:50.000 Thank you for your call, and welcome to the Power Team.

01:36:52.000 Yeah, you too.

01:36:52.000 Hello, Dave and Joyce and Mr. Markham.

01:36:54.000 How you doing?

01:36:56.000 I have a quick question.

01:36:58.000 I've heard of Chapter 7.

01:37:00.000 Never heard of Chapter 13.

01:37:03.000 What happened to Chapter 11?

01:37:07.000 That's basically, those are not used for individuals.

01:37:13.000 You have other chapters out there, you got 10, 11, you got 9.

01:37:17.000 No, but there's all kinds of chapters.

01:37:19.000 Right.

01:37:20.000 Because like I've heard of 7, I've heard of 11, like you said, 13 is new to me.

01:37:24.000 Yeah, 13 has been added over the years and it's basically a repayment plan.

01:37:30.000 Okay, so all the ones I've mentioned are not for individuals.

01:37:34.000 Right.

01:37:35.000 That's all like corporations, businesses?

01:37:37.000 Corporations, businesses, reorganizations, and some of them are for government.

01:37:42.000 I'm trying to remember, one of them is for farmers out there, and I believe that's nine, and I don't know whether that's still in effect or not.

01:37:49.000 Wow.

01:37:50.000 Well, that was enlightening.

01:37:52.000 I never knew that there were so many.

01:37:54.000 Well, there's a lot.

01:37:55.000 In fact, if you've got a computer, you can look at the different... The bankruptcy code is Title 11 under the United States Code.

01:38:04.000 I found it interesting that the means test that you brought up was built by the IRS.

01:38:10.000 Like Dave, I found that very interesting.

01:38:13.000 When I heard that, my eyebrows went, whoa.

01:38:16.000 You know there's something bad going on there.

01:38:19.000 Oh, gosh, yeah.

01:38:21.000 This is what I personally see.

01:38:24.000 I don't know for sure.

01:38:24.000 It's just my opinion.

01:38:27.000 I do see the reemergence of the debtor's prison.

01:38:30.000 There's going to be so many people.

01:38:33.000 They're not going to be able to get through this, and they're just going to end up in bigger trouble.

01:38:37.000 That's exactly what my knee-jerk reaction was, because they have been privatizing the prisons for years and years and years, and I do see... I mean, we know that prison labor has been available for businesses for quite some time.

01:38:49.000 Oh yeah.

01:38:50.000 I mean, you can get very cheap labor, you know, farming out a particular project, if you have a widget that you want manufactured, and you still want it to say made in the USA, well then, you know, you get a broker and they will handle The arrangements where they have prison workers make pieces for your widget.

01:39:07.000 Exactly.

01:39:08.000 And you can get a tax write-off as well now.

01:39:10.000 That's right.

01:39:11.000 For the prison.

01:39:11.000 That's right.

01:39:12.000 And for the person wanting the work done, they get a write-off too.

01:39:16.000 And this fits into the whole master plan.

01:39:19.000 We've been asking the question for years.

01:39:20.000 Do more laws make more freedoms?

01:39:23.000 Of course not.

01:39:24.000 Our legislators pass 20,000 laws every year.

01:39:27.000 I mean, one way or the other, no matter what you do and how many T's you cross and I's you dot, you're breaking the law somewhere, and if they catch you, they'll throw you in prison.

01:39:37.000 That's right.

01:39:37.000 That brings in the whole Bin Laden thing.

01:39:38.000 We just heard about this new Bin Laden tape.

01:39:41.000 I know it's a little off-topic, but the thing is, you know, it's not... They're not... You know, you can say Al-Qaeda.

01:39:46.000 They're not threatening our freedoms.

01:39:47.000 It's our own legislators that are taking away our freedoms.

01:39:51.000 Mm-hmm.

01:39:51.000 That's right.

01:39:53.000 That's right.

01:39:53.000 That's the question that we've posed here, you know.

01:39:56.000 How many of your laws are legislated away by Saddam or Osama or Al Qaeda? 0.63

01:39:59.000 The answer is none.

01:40:01.000 So, hey Scott, thank you.

01:40:02.000 By the way, how do you listen to the broadcast?

01:40:05.000 WHRI 9840.

01:40:06.000 Fantastic!

01:40:08.000 Well, thank you for calling in.

01:40:09.000 I look forward to hearing from you again.

01:40:11.000 Thank you.

01:40:11.000 Alright, you have a good day.

01:40:12.000 Let's go to Mark in Georgia.

01:40:15.000 Mark, welcome aboard.

01:40:16.000 You're on the air.

01:40:17.000 Go ahead.

01:40:18.000 All I gotta say is I had an enlightening situation over Christmas.

01:40:23.000 I got $30,000 in debt, credit card, and I've been carrying it since 94.

01:40:27.000 I just keep rolling it over because that's pretty much all I can do until my wife graduates from college and makes big money. 1.00

01:40:35.000 But this Vietnam vet was telling me what you guys just talked about.

01:40:40.000 I mean, we're going to be under a police state slash prison because of the Illuminati.

01:40:46.000 They're slowly but surely taking over America and freedom. 0.85

01:40:50.000 And, you know, it scares me.

01:40:51.000 I have freaking nightmares that I'm going to wind up in prison because I can't pay my bills.

01:40:59.000 And I've had sheriffs come to the house and we just go to the court and just tell them, look, we're playing on, we're honorable.

01:41:06.000 We're playing on paying it.

01:41:07.000 We just can't pay it now.

01:41:08.000 We're raising five kids.

01:41:10.000 And, uh, and this Vietnam vet, he's, He's a Jesuit and all this other stuff.

01:41:16.000 I mean, he's real high up there in the Illuminati.

01:41:19.000 And he literally said that Mark, you better take care of business because they're going to clamp down and they're slowly doing that.

01:41:28.000 Bush is shredding the Constitution left and right with the Patriot Act and then creating the Homeland Security.

01:41:37.000 And I don't know, I just want to know if he does agree or disagree about Us all becoming slaves to the haves and us being the have-nots.

01:41:48.000 Okay, Mark, thank you for your question.

01:41:50.000 Don, do you think, like, we're thinking that this is going to be heading towards a debtor's prison and a forced labor camp situation?

01:41:57.000 Well, I don't know about... Well, debtor's prisons is getting near that point, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did, but you're not a free person if you're in debt.

01:42:07.000 You're bound, you know, to the master.

01:42:09.000 Right.

01:42:13.000 You know, it's ugly no matter what's going to happen.

01:42:17.000 I mean, I'm more scared about this new guy they're going to bring in as the head of the Federal Reserve.

01:42:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:22.000 Because they're discussing now even stop publishing to the public M1, M2, M3 reports.

01:42:31.000 Those are the reports that tell you how fast the printing press is going and how much money is in circulation.

01:42:38.000 And if they start printing money and they don't tell you how much is out there, you don't know how much inflation is taking place.

01:42:43.000 Right, right.

01:42:45.000 Okay, let's go to Stuart in New York.

01:42:47.000 Stuart, D35 Dittos, good morning.

01:42:49.000 Welcome aboard.

01:42:50.000 Good morning.

01:42:52.000 Regarding the situation, if you're somebody who does not qualify for Chapter 7 or Chapter 13, and you have debts, and for whatever reason you just can't pay them at that time, Well, what can you do?

01:43:07.000 That's question number one.

01:43:09.000 Number two, I hear these advertisements on the radio all the time, in fact a lot on Genesis, of these organizations where they say they'll negotiate with the credit card companies and cut the interest and put everything into one lump sum and they'll help you pay it off that way.

01:43:25.000 Are they legit?

01:43:26.000 Is that the way to go rather than trying bankruptcy?

01:43:29.000 The trouble of it is finding which ones are legit and which ones just spin you around.

01:43:34.000 And there are some legit ones out there.

01:43:36.000 I don't know which ones they are, but what I've been hearing from people is they're hard to find legit.

01:43:44.000 And, uh, but I will tell you, I mean, most credit card companies, whether you're in bankruptcy or not, if you have a cash offer and you can give them a lump sum, it could be as low as a third or 50%.

01:43:56.000 If you offer it, you know, them a lump sum, they'll accept it and, you know, close your whole account.

01:44:04.000 That's happened before.

01:44:06.000 I know people have done it.

01:44:07.000 Okay.

01:44:08.000 Will that negatively affect your credit rating if you do it that way?

01:44:12.000 Right.

01:44:13.000 Because it's going to come on your credit report, and if they don't, then you can sue them.

01:44:21.000 The Fair Credit Reporting Act, and there's a couple other federal statutes, they have it.

01:44:26.000 They've got only like 30 or 60 days to correct that.

01:44:31.000 You know, any derogatory remark on your credit report.

01:44:34.000 You know, I mean, if I paid them off, I would wait 30 days, get a credit report.

01:44:39.000 And then if they don't, I'd give them a written notice and at that point, and they don't do nothing about it, then I would take them to court and sue them.

01:44:47.000 So you're saying that some of these credit card companies, let's say, for example, if you owe them, let's say $5,000, you say, okay, I lost my job or whatever yada yada.

01:44:58.000 I can pay you $2500 cash right now.

01:45:01.000 Do you take it?

01:45:03.000 They might try to negotiate with you a little bit, but by and large they will.

01:45:07.000 And even if they wouldn't, took you to court and sued you and got a judgment, they always are willing to, especially after a judgment, they're willing to settle for less because they get the right off the other money in a manner which is very beneficial to them for taxes.

01:45:25.000 Okay, now if they do get a judgment against you and they settle on this, does that still go on your credit report?

01:45:30.000 Yes, it will.

01:45:31.000 However, the state bankruptcy exemptions come into play because every time they get a judgment against you, you're allowed to exempt certain property from civil judgment using your state bankruptcy laws.

01:45:45.000 Now they vary from state to state, and I live in a state which doesn't have very good exemptions, but I'm just letting people know that, you know, they just can't take everything.

01:45:56.000 They just can't take 100% of your check.

01:45:58.000 They can't take all the value, you know, of something.

01:46:02.000 You know, you're allowed certain exemptions.

01:46:04.000 Like, you know, most states it's 25-30% usually tops of your paycheck a month if they got a garnishment against you.

01:46:15.000 As far as the interest rates on some of these cards, I have some that are as high as 22-23%.

01:46:21.000 Oh man, that's bad!

01:46:24.000 I just received some new agreements.

01:46:30.000 They can go as high as 30% now, under the new legislation.

01:46:35.000 And they get to charge you more in the month of December. 0.98

01:46:40.000 So it makes it almost impossible to pay the damn things off. 0.76

01:46:45.000 And can that be negotiated? 0.97

01:46:47.000 I mean, if you call them and say, you know, hey, 30% or 22% is is usurous.

01:46:54.000 Well, no, they change the law so it isn't usurous anymore.

01:46:57.000 And it's even, I'll give you a clue.

01:46:59.000 And all credit card companies do this and they communicate with one another.

01:47:05.000 If you fall behind on one credit card from one company, by law, the other companies through the agreement, you have it, you never read.

01:47:14.000 Can raise your interest rate on you for failing to pay the other company.

01:47:18.000 Oh my goodness.

01:47:20.000 Hey Stuart, thank you so much for the call.

01:47:22.000 You bring out some really good points.

01:47:24.000 You know, I'm listening to this conversation and I'm sitting here thinking, well what if?

01:47:27.000 What if?

01:47:28.000 What if all of a sudden our relations with China were to break down here?

01:47:33.000 And what if there was an economic collapse?

01:47:35.000 And what if all of these people that are up to their eyeballs and debt couldn't pay What if America had no choice but to rebuild the very base structure of its own industry, and all these people go bankrupt, and they all get thrown into prisons because of it?

01:47:51.000 My goodness, we certainly would need a huge labor force to rebuild and reconstruct industry. 0.88

01:47:58.000 You know?

01:47:58.000 I mean, how convenient would that be?

01:48:00.000 Let's go to Tim in Florida, and somehow, Tim, I don't think a rife machine is going to clear away debt, so let's stay on topic.

01:48:10.000 I'm going to ask you a question.

01:48:13.000 Chapter 11.

01:48:15.000 That's for corporations?

01:48:17.000 Right.

01:48:18.000 Okay.

01:48:19.000 In 1933, when they collateralized the people, we became dummy corporations.

01:48:25.000 When a child is born, a birth certificate is sent to, I think it's New York, called the Tower of Power.

01:48:34.000 The dummy corporation, the child becomes a dummy corporation, And a bond is put on that child.

01:48:42.000 In 1933, it was a million dollars.

01:48:44.000 I don't know how much the collateral is today.

01:48:47.000 Well, we are dummy corporations.

01:48:49.000 So we should be able to file Chapter 11 because we are a corporation.

01:48:55.000 The IRS only takes corporations.

01:48:58.000 They do not take natural men or natural women. 0.97

01:49:02.000 Flesh and blood human beings.

01:49:04.000 And peoples-right.com He explains all about this.

01:49:11.000 Yes.

01:49:11.000 And if you could get Dave on your show at the Power Hour, he can explain everything about the fraud, about credit.

01:49:21.000 Your name means credit, and credit is fraud.

01:49:24.000 The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the creature from Jekyll Island, explains all about the credit, how it's fraud.

01:49:33.000 Okay, well thank you for the contribution, and hopefully we'll get Don to comment on that.

01:49:38.000 How does this all fit in here?

01:49:40.000 I think we all sort of know the answer, but I'd like to hear it from him.

01:49:43.000 We're going to take our three-minute break.

01:49:45.000 We'll be back to wrap it up with our guest Don Markham.

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01:53:09.000 And a quick reminder for those of you listening to the rebroadcast of this program on WHRA, you're dialed in to 5.850 at the moment, but you'll have to change your receiver to 7.55 in about four minutes.

01:53:21.000 We've been talking this hour with Don Markham, who is a paralegal and has been examining a lot of the legislation in regard to bankruptcy laws And he's written an article which is posted in the current issue of the Idaho Observer, which I highly recommend.

01:53:42.000 And there's two newspapers in this country that are worth their salt, and that's of course the American Free Press and the Idaho Observer.

01:53:47.000 Oh, and I don't want to forget the Lone Star Iconoclast.

01:53:51.000 But still, I mean, with one hand I could count the number of newspapers that are decent in this country.

01:53:56.000 Don, as we wrap this up here, what is your advice to folks out there?

01:54:02.000 I mean, a lot of folks are just saying, hey, look, if there's only one thing, get out of debt.

01:54:05.000 Do you subscribe to that philosophy?

01:54:07.000 I absolutely subscribe.

01:54:08.000 It took me a lot of years to do that, and I finally have accomplished it, and I advocate doing that.

01:54:15.000 The second thing I advocate is if you've got to buy something, create an entity and have it, buy it.

01:54:22.000 Because if you go into debt and they want to sue you or drag you into bankruptcy or whatever, that separate entity is never you.

01:54:31.000 Okay.

01:54:33.000 Alright, now do you have a website?

01:54:36.000 Or are we going to direct everybody directly to the Idaho Observer?

01:54:41.000 The Idaho Observer, I can give out an email.

01:54:44.000 Somebody out there wants to send me an email and I'll answer a question if they type in Power Hour question or something in the subject line.

01:54:52.000 Okay.

01:54:53.000 Well, first of all, the website for Idaho Observer is Idaho-Observer.com.

01:54:58.000 And go ahead, give out any other contact that you want, Doc.

01:55:00.000 Okay.

01:55:02.000 Email address is Markham, M-A-R-K-H-M-A-M.

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01:55:11.000 Okay, would you redo that again because it's... Markham is what?

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01:55:20.000 There you go.

01:55:20.000 Okay.

01:55:21.000 Alright, let's do it.

01:55:22.000 We've got one more call to squeeze into the top of the hour.

01:55:24.000 Jeff in Massachusetts, welcome aboard.

01:55:26.000 You're on the air with our guest Don Markham.

01:55:28.000 Oh, yes.

01:55:29.000 As far as the Idaho Observer is concerned, what do you see as far as the future of the United States is concerned?

01:55:35.000 Do you see the United States getting out of the U.N.

01:55:38.000 and getting out of debt?

01:55:39.000 Well, that's sort of not really on topic.

01:55:41.000 The debt part, yeah, but what do you see, Don?

01:55:44.000 Well, I see us, they're going to attempt to make Canada, United States, and Mexico one big happy family.

01:55:54.000 The reason why I mention the U.N.

01:55:56.000 is this, because the U.N.

01:55:59.000 wants global taxation, and this will increase the debt in the United States of America.

01:56:05.000 You see, because the two are interconnected, basically.

01:56:08.000 So that's why I threw the U.N.

01:56:09.000 in there.

01:56:10.000 Yeah, but they're going to do it in steps, and the first step is to create one government and one continent.

01:56:15.000 Like, you know, you've got the European community over there, and they're going to do one for North America.

01:56:23.000 Because Joan Beyond has done a lot of research on the U.N., and the roots of a lot of these problems are connected to that.

01:56:30.000 As John Birch would always say, get the U.S.

01:56:33.000 out of the U.N., less government, More responsibility, with God's help, a better world.

01:56:38.000 That's what we need.

01:56:40.000 Period.

01:56:40.000 Because governments create genocide, and governments create debt, and governments are a drag.

01:56:45.000 Well, all you gotta do is look at the UN track record, and you'll see the genocide.

01:56:50.000 Oh, of course.

01:56:51.000 That is a fact.

01:56:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:53.000 Oh yeah.

01:56:53.000 Guys, have an excellent weekend.

01:56:55.000 Alright, well thank you for the phone call.

01:56:57.000 And Don Markham, thank you so much for joining us this hour.

01:56:59.000 Hopefully we've been able to shed a little bit of light on this most confusing subject in regard to bankruptcy.

01:57:06.000 And again, I would encourage folks to go to idaho-observer.com to check it out.

01:57:11.000 Don, thank you so much for joining us.

01:57:13.000 You have a good day.

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01:57:44.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of The Power Hour.

01:58:09.000 Straight up, top of the hour, plus one minute.

01:58:14.000 And we're going to have open lines for the remainder of the broadcast.

01:58:18.000 And a couple of issues here that I wanted to bring to light.

01:58:22.000 I understand that you remember the folks from worldcantwait.org.

01:58:27.000 We tried to throw them a little bit of support.

01:58:31.000 And although we all agree that we have a real problem with the current regime we're living under, my particular philosophy is just like what Jack Palance tried to tell Billy Crystal in the movie City Slickers.

01:58:43.000 It's one thing.

01:58:45.000 Leave all the other stuff aside.

01:58:47.000 Let's all agree on one thing.

01:58:49.000 Focus on one thing, like a laser beam, and accomplish that one thing.

01:58:54.000 Some folks just don't get it, and they feel that they have to drag all their other issues along with them.

01:59:00.000 You know, okay, abortion, and gay rights, and racism, and all this other stuff, which may be legitimate arguments.

01:59:10.000 Of course, there are people who stand on both sides of any particular debate.

01:59:14.000 But when it comes to one thing, it's one thing.

01:59:17.000 And that's my particular philosophy.

01:59:19.000 Well, one thing that they're focusing on is trying to get Bush out of office, and I can agree with that one thing.

01:59:26.000 And World Can't Wait has taken out a full-page ad in the New York Times, and it basically screams the headline, Bush Step Down!

01:59:36.000 January 31st, President Bush will be giving his State of the Union address, and the State of the Union is in a state of emergency.

01:59:45.000 They are basically advocating everybody to uh... protest and demonstrate at eight o'clock eastern standard time around the country in large cities and town squares they want people to rally one hour before bush's address and uh... at nine p m It says, let the world hear as we symbolically drown out Bush's lies.

02:00:10.000 Bring your own noise, drums, pots, pans, musical instruments, your voice.

02:00:15.000 Let taxi horns blare and church bells ring as we bring our own State of the Union message.

02:00:23.000 Bush, step down! 1.00

02:00:27.000 I think that this is going to be interesting to see how this is going to unfold here.

02:00:33.000 I think we can all agree that we have a very serious problem with the direction our country is taking under the Bush regime.

02:00:38.000 You may or may not want to participate in this, but I'm sure they have details.

02:00:45.000 At their website, worldcantwait.org, and I know some of you folks are saying, wait a second, you're promoting a bunch of people that are advocating homosexuality and abortion and stuff.

02:00:55.000 No, I'm not.

02:00:56.000 I am absolutely not.

02:00:59.000 I do focus in on one thing, and hopefully we all can too.

02:01:05.000 And I know that there's folks out there that can't get by that.

02:01:08.000 You know, if you get equally yoked with these people, say, wait a second, wait a minute.

02:01:14.000 All the folks that subscribe to that philosophy, let me ask you a question.

02:01:17.000 Do you have any members of your family in the military?

02:01:21.000 I'm sure many of you do.

02:01:22.000 We have a lot of very good, devout Christians and Bible believers out there that have members in the military.

02:01:29.000 Well, guess what?

02:01:29.000 If you've got people in the military, then you are also involved With people of other faiths, people of other beliefs, people of other sexual persuasions.

02:01:40.000 That doesn't mean that you're equally yoked with them.

02:01:43.000 It just means that you're serving the military in the best way, and if you're serving your country, the best way that you know how.

02:01:48.000 It's that one thing.

02:01:50.000 Okay?

02:01:51.000 So, I am not equally yoked with anybody that has a different philosophy as far as sexuality or abortion or anything like that.

02:01:57.000 We can agree with one thing, and that is that the direction this country is taking is absolutely maniacal, it is suicidal, and it is disruptive for the peace and sanctity of this world.

02:02:11.000 So, for whatever reason, if you care to join the likes of Edward Asner, Harry Belafonte, Michael Eric Dyson, Jane Fonda?

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02:05:52.000 Hi everybody, this is Davon Kleist and Joyce Riley, and we all know knowledge is power, and that's why we call this the Power Hour!

02:06:01.000 The opinions expressed on this program are not necessarily those of the staff, management, sponsors of this radio station, and those yet to respond.

02:06:20.000 Alright, welcome to Hour Number 3 of today's installment of The Power Hour.

02:06:25.000 And for those of you listening live, I just want to let you know that we are not answering the phones for the next hour.

02:06:32.000 We have a situation, nothing big or anything like that, but we fired up a new heater unit.

02:06:42.000 And I don't know if you know about heaters, space heaters and stuff like that, but when you turn them on for the first time, sometimes they smoke a little bit and let off a funny smell.

02:06:51.000 Well, it did.

02:06:52.000 And some people went, oh, this smells terrible.

02:06:55.000 So anyway, we just had to open up all the windows and air the place out.

02:06:58.000 So anyway, no big deal.

02:07:01.000 So if you're calling in right now, you're not going to get answered, OK?

02:07:05.000 We just opened up the windows, and everybody's out there taking a walk right now.

02:07:08.000 It's not a big deal.

02:07:09.000 But anyway, we're going to have open lines here, but before we do, I wanted to share with you a couple of letters here.

02:07:18.000 I mentioned one yesterday.

02:07:20.000 I didn't get to it because we had open lines and I almost did it again today.

02:07:24.000 But there's a couple of things I wanted to share with you.

02:07:26.000 First of all, I got an email here from a student by the name of Matt.

02:07:30.000 And he says he's a student at Valparaiso University in Indiana and recently watched the video 9-11 in plain sight and he says he was completely astonished because it was so thought-provoking.

02:07:39.000 He says, I'm left in some confusion completely as to what to do about this matter and how to tell people and get this message out in the communities of America.

02:07:47.000 I've never heard anyone talk of this movie until my friend introduced me to it, which means people who are unaware or don't care or they'll just never hear of it.

02:07:55.000 I want to find a way to present this to a larger audience with a viewing basis without raising a biased view and showing that I neither support liberal or conservative views but stand neutral so that people can see that we're not fighting for a view but for the truth.

02:08:12.000 Wow!

02:08:13.000 He's out of the cage!

02:08:14.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

02:08:14.000 Look out! 0.94

02:08:15.000 This is not something that should remain hidden, and I'm sure you feel the same.

02:08:19.000 I want to do everything in my power to get as many people to view in plain sight as possible.

02:08:23.000 Okay?

02:08:24.000 I could go on here, but he wants very much to be able to get folks out there to see this video and start thinking outside the cage, and you go, boy!

02:08:31.000 What else can I say?

02:08:32.000 A couple suggestions, Matt?

02:08:35.000 Get it onto a local cable access channel?

02:08:38.000 You can have a screening at the library.

02:08:41.000 Okay?

02:08:42.000 You can publicize it at the school.

02:08:43.000 Get together with the Student Union and say, hey look, let's have a free screening of this video.

02:08:49.000 And get together with a couple of your friends.

02:08:51.000 Have a meeting of people that think like you do.

02:08:54.000 And make a battle plan.

02:08:55.000 Make flyers.

02:08:56.000 Put it out there.

02:08:57.000 And you know, plan a screening of it.

02:08:59.000 That's the way to do it.

02:09:00.000 Grassroots guy, bottom up.

02:09:01.000 And if anybody else has got any other suggestions, hey, bring them to the table.

02:09:06.000 That's what this is all about.

02:09:08.000 Now also, I have a letter here that was written by Craig, and he was responding to Gordon Farrer, who is the individual that writes for The Age, which is a newspaper in Australia.

02:09:22.000 Now The Age, Gordon wrote a very scathing review of 9-11 in plain sight, and it was published before it was aired.

02:09:34.000 And I believe it was in that morning's newspaper the night before it was going to be aired.

02:09:38.000 And if people caught wind of this thing and read his review both in the newspaper and online they were very upset and understandably so.

02:09:46.000 Now for those of you that want to see what this flap is all about we've got the entire exchange between myself and Mr. Farrar.

02:09:52.000 Now I don't usually address individuals that slam either Joyce or me.

02:09:57.000 I mean we try to stay on the horse because otherwise you end up wrestling in the mud.

02:10:01.000 And that's not what we're into.

02:10:03.000 But I did find it necessary to draw out Mr. Farrar so that he and the listenership of the program and all the readers out there.

02:10:12.000 The new listeners we've got down in Australia are unbelievable.

02:10:16.000 Thank you so much, all you folks down under.

02:10:19.000 Thank you for joining us on the program.

02:10:20.000 I know we've got a lot of folks out there.

02:10:23.000 And after reading the exchange, he wrote the article, I responded to it.

02:10:27.000 He responded to my response, and then I responded to his response of my response, and then he responded again.

02:10:33.000 So we went back and forth about three times, and I'm done with the guy.

02:10:37.000 I'm not going to respond anymore because he is adamantly And gleefully and blissfully in the cage.

02:10:45.000 And he does not want to.

02:10:46.000 He wants to keep all the other people in the cage.

02:10:48.000 He will not address the issues.

02:10:52.000 He is so wrapped up in attacking the messenger and adamantly refusing to deal with the message.

02:10:57.000 And this is exactly the point.

02:10:59.000 By my getting him to respond and then responding back and getting another response.

02:11:04.000 He should have quit when he was ahead because he didn't just shoot himself in the leg.

02:11:08.000 He sawed both of his legs off slowly and deliberately at this point.

02:11:13.000 People can see exactly where he's coming from.

02:11:15.000 Very interesting exchange and check it out at the Power Hour.

02:11:18.000 And I also want to thank Craig if you're out there listening.

02:11:20.000 Craig E is the first letter of his last name, and he's down under there.

02:11:27.000 And I thank you so much for your lengthy response, very articulate, very intelligent response to Mr. Farrar.

02:11:34.000 Anyway, that said, and of course for those of you that still, if you've been under a rock and you don't know anything about the 9-11 in plain sight documentary, it is just creating an unbelievable controversy around the world.

02:11:50.000 and uh... that the powers that be are desperate to keep people from seeing this or asking the questions that we bring up in that program because the questions are valid they still stand and they will continue to stand until there is an open

02:12:04.000 An open and free exchange of ideas and thoughts and the discussion is not influenced in any way shape or form by so-called truth seekers that want to somehow discredit or ridicule anybody that dares ask these questions like, what is the flash?

02:12:22.000 What caused the flash?

02:12:25.000 Was the flash a result of the pod?

02:12:29.000 Is there a pod?

02:12:30.000 They don't want you even talking about this stuff!

02:12:33.000 Because if we talk about it, we just might find out that the September 11th attack and the collapse of the towers might have been a result of something other than terrorists with box cutters.

02:12:50.000 Now that's not to say that there weren't terrorists involved.

02:12:53.000 I've never said that.

02:12:55.000 Okay?

02:12:55.000 But just like the analogy that I gave many, it's too long to give now, but I gave many months ago about the unscrupulous individual That had clawed his way up the ladder of success and left in his wake the ruined lives of many honest people.

02:13:10.000 And because he felt he was in competition with a guy that lived down the street, he plant bombs around his house.

02:13:16.000 And had a button he could push anytime he wanted to blow this guy up.

02:13:21.000 But before he did it, he hired a bunch of kids to let off some fireworks for a party he had planned.

02:13:26.000 And as the kids let off the fireworks he pushed the button and the house blew up.

02:13:30.000 When the firefighters and the police got there they arrested the kids.

02:13:34.000 Now my question is, is it possible that Osama Bin Laden and the terrorists were nothing more than those kids that were hired to do a different job?

02:13:43.000 Maybe they were involved in something very bad and I don't doubt that they were.

02:13:48.000 But did they bring down the towers?

02:13:52.000 Did they attack the Pentagon?

02:13:56.000 That's the question.

02:13:57.000 There's a whole lot more to the story of September 11th than is being brought to the table, and I think the overwhelming majority of the people of the world now realize this.

02:14:05.000 The simple fact is, is that every piece of legislation, every military action that's been taken, and every television broadcast by these talking heads, so-called journalists on television, the likes of Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, and Bill O'Reilly, yeah, I want a piece of you!

02:14:21.000 Hey! 0.99

02:14:21.000 I want a piece of you, Bill! 0.99

02:14:24.000 But anyway, all of these people are directly responsible for taking our country, and indeed the world, down a path that is based upon fraud.

02:14:34.000 Everything is predicated on September 11th, and if we don't get to the truth about what happened on September 11th, then everything we do is based on a lie.

02:14:42.000 We are living a lie.

02:14:44.000 We've got to get to the truth.

02:14:46.000 And if you're willing to sacrifice your liberty and your freedom, you better understand that they who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty or security.

02:14:56.000 If we're going to give up our rights, we better be doggone sure that we don't want them back forever.

02:15:02.000 And we better re-examine why we were given these founding documents in the first place.

02:15:08.000 Alright, that said, let's start going to the phones, and as I ranted, I shuffled my paper here, and I've lost my... let me see, where is it?

02:15:17.000 Richard in New Hampshire, you're the first one up.

02:15:19.000 Thank you, Scott.

02:15:20.000 Richard, welcome.

02:15:21.000 Yeah, hi Dave, how's it going?

02:15:23.000 A couple points I want to bring out about our illustrious IRS.

02:15:26.000 Last year I brought one out, and I'll bring out another one that I didn't get to.

02:15:29.000 Okay.

02:15:30.000 About five years ago, in the Buffalo Service Center in Buffalo, New York, some of the employees over there that were taking some of the returns You know, from all the movie stars?

02:15:40.000 Yeah.

02:15:40.000 Like, uh, oh, Julia Roberts and that.

02:15:43.000 And what they were doing, they were putting it up on the internet.

02:15:46.000 Oh, really?

02:15:47.000 Oh, yeah, really.

02:15:48.000 And, uh, nothing ever happened from that.

02:15:50.000 No repercussions.

02:15:52.000 Nobody, nobody, uh, got reprimanded.

02:15:54.000 Nobody lost their jobs or anything like that.

02:15:56.000 Huh.

02:15:57.000 That great, great outfit, right?

02:15:58.000 Yeah, really.

02:15:59.000 And the other one now, which I brought up last year, is about five years ago.

02:16:04.000 The IRS, they were running a scam.

02:16:06.000 Believe I told you about this.

02:16:08.000 And what they were doing back then, everybody was sending in their checks, and they were putting IRS.

02:16:14.000 So, what some of the agents did is they opened up a checking account.

02:16:18.000 Alright?

02:16:18.000 In the name of I.R.

02:16:20.000 Smith.

02:16:21.000 Alright?

02:16:22.000 And when anybody, uh, taxpayers sent in their checks saying IRS, well what they did is they just put a, you know, period after the I, a period after the R, and they just filled in Smith.

02:16:32.000 Alright?

02:16:33.000 And they stole three million dollars.

02:16:39.000 Three million dollars a day they stole, right?

02:16:42.000 Now, they had people out there, their checks weren't being cleared and stuff like that, and of course they had all kinds of fees and penalties and fines and different things, right?

02:16:51.000 Not a single IRS agent that was involved in this ever got prosecuted, and not a single one of them ever went to prison.

02:16:59.000 Wow.

02:17:00.000 This is what we're dealing with out there when we're dealing with the IRS.

02:17:05.000 Yeah.

02:17:06.000 You know, I don't know.

02:17:08.000 It just boggles the mind how the people, you know, they just stood back and they let these government agencies like this just run roughshod over us.

02:17:17.000 Unbelievable.

02:17:18.000 It really is.

02:17:18.000 Thanks for the call.

02:17:20.000 Just bringing yet another puzzle piece to the table.

02:17:23.000 If we can all work together, maybe we'll figure out what the picture's going to be.

02:17:26.000 I don't know.

02:17:28.000 I don't know if we want to see what the final picture's going to be, because I think we all know what it is.

02:17:33.000 Alright, we're going to take our break.

02:17:34.000 We'll be back and we've got a first timer on the line.

02:17:36.000 Hey, more first timers coming on board.

02:17:38.000 Told you.

02:17:39.000 Told you we've got new listeners.

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02:22:05.000 All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of the Power Hour.

02:22:09.000 This is Dave and Joyce.

02:22:10.000 Coming up on 25 minutes past the hour.

02:22:13.000 I can't help it, folks.

02:22:14.000 When I hear music like this, it makes me feel... Ah!

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02:22:28.000 All right.

02:22:33.000 We're going to have open lines.

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02:22:38.000 1-800-259-9231 is the phone number, but you can't dial it now, because guess what?

02:22:41.000 They're all full.

02:22:43.000 And I'm hoping, I am hoping against hope that we can inspire folks, not just to understand what's going on.

02:22:50.000 That's not inspiration, that's education.

02:22:53.000 But I want folks to be able to do exactly what Howard Beale had inspired them to do.

02:22:58.000 I want y'all to, you know, that's why we end the program and scream, We Will Not Stop.

02:23:02.000 Well, Howard Beale got everybody to scream.

02:23:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear it!

02:23:07.000 How do you feel?

02:23:07.000 We're ready!

02:23:12.000 We want that same sentiment, folks.

02:23:14.000 We want to get everybody, yo, okay, fine, if anger is what it's going to take to get people off a dead center, well then so be it.

02:23:21.000 That's, you know, I mean, I hate to generate anger and hate and all that kind of stuff.

02:23:24.000 I don't like hate.

02:23:25.000 Hate's not good.

02:23:26.000 Hate is bad.

02:23:27.000 Hate bad.

02:23:27.000 But we've got to do something to get folks to rediscover their heritage, their responsibility, and their duty as patriotic Americans to roll up their sleeves, break a sweat, get their fingernails dirty, and realize it is your responsibility to get out there and tend to the garden so that the seeds of liberty will continue to flourish, if they haven't died altogether.

02:23:51.000 Alright, we have a first timer on the line.

02:23:54.000 Tim, in Michigan, welcome aboard.

02:23:56.000 Thank you for calling.

02:23:57.000 Welcome.

02:23:58.000 Hi.

02:23:58.000 You know, the part from that movie you ought to be playing is Ned Beatty taking Howard Eele into that big room and telling him, you do not mess with the primal forces of nature.

02:24:09.000 That's right.

02:24:10.000 Very good.

02:24:11.000 Yeah, we played that particular clip yesterday.

02:24:14.000 Oh, I didn't get to hear it.

02:24:15.000 I don't know why.

02:24:16.000 Oh, you want me?

02:24:16.000 I'll play a portion of that at the bottom of the hour.

02:24:19.000 That would be great.

02:24:20.000 I'm calling about this whole bankruptcy debt situation with people.

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02:24:31.000 You know, how many times do you have to change the complete living room suite?

02:24:36.000 How many big screen TVs do people have to have?

02:24:38.000 How many stereos in your house?

02:24:40.000 I mean, you know, have a rummage sale and start paying down that stuff and get out from under their debtor prison trap.

02:24:48.000 People wake up, you know, the founder of WHRI was a pastor called Lester Sumrall and he, I watched him on the TV talking about, you made a deal with these people and you owe them the money.

02:25:02.000 You know, I can understand people who are raising kids and they have to have certain things in their home in order to do things properly, but I mean, there is a limit.

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02:25:29.000 You have a bottom line at your house.

02:25:31.000 You have a budget.

02:25:34.000 You need to stay within the confines of that.

02:25:38.000 That's right.

02:25:40.000 You have to ask the question, how much is enough?

02:25:43.000 How much is too much?

02:25:44.000 Exactly.

02:25:45.000 So folks say, wait a second, if you start going down that road, then you're condemning capitalism.

02:25:50.000 So no, I'm not.

02:25:51.000 I think everybody should be able to make as much money as they want to.

02:25:54.000 But the point is, how much do you want to make?

02:25:56.000 How much do you need to make?

02:25:58.000 And how much do you have to make?

02:26:00.000 I mean, it's sort of like standing in a buffet line, and the guy in front of you starts scooping so much food on his plate, it goes to the floor, and then it's up to his ankles and up to his knees, and he's just taking it because he can.

02:26:12.000 Right, right.

02:26:13.000 I mean, that doesn't leave anything left for anybody else.

02:26:16.000 I mean, that's just flat-out greed.

02:26:19.000 Yeah, and you know something else?

02:26:20.000 I heard this years and years ago on, I believe it was Tom Valentine.

02:26:25.000 They were talking about the whole money situation.

02:26:28.000 What we call money is called notes.

02:26:30.000 Federal Reserve notes, and they're based in, I think they said, insurance law, and anything purchased with those notes actually belongs to the Federal Reserve Bank.

02:26:44.000 That's what I've heard, yeah.

02:26:45.000 Yeah, so they own whatever you bought with their notes.

02:26:50.000 So, you know, we're in a really sticky situation with that.

02:26:55.000 Yeah, well, you see, I don't know what's going to happen.

02:26:59.000 I mean, I would love to think that we could defeat these monsters, but sometimes I feel that the only way out of this mess is to allow them to collapse under the weight of their own corruption.

02:27:07.000 I think that's how it's going to happen.

02:27:08.000 I think so, too.

02:27:09.000 They're going to say, we own it all anyway.

02:27:13.000 And we're leasing it to you.

02:27:15.000 Hey Tim, we've got to go.

02:27:16.000 Bottom of the hour is upon us.

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02:30:42.000 Here we go.

02:30:47.000 So if you're...

02:30:49.000 Hey, you guys paid to listen?

02:30:51.000 Are you paying attention?

02:30:53.000 We're the good guys.

02:30:54.000 The orders are the ones that tell the lies.

02:30:56.000 If they tell you we're the enemy, you're in for a surprise.

02:31:00.000 It isn't me.

02:31:01.000 Not us, guys.

02:31:02.000 Not me.

02:31:03.000 Hey, you guys paid to listen?

02:31:04.000 Not me.

02:31:05.000 Not me.

02:31:06.000 Are you paying attention?

02:31:06.000 Not me.

02:31:07.000 Not me.

02:31:08.000 We're the good guys.

02:31:10.000 Not me.

02:31:11.000 You're taking order from the bad guys.

02:31:13.000 Not me.

02:31:14.000 I hear the things that are not the enemy.

02:31:17.000 You want to find out who the real bad guys are?

02:31:19.000 Hmm?

02:31:20.000 Hey, turn the on switch.

02:31:21.000 Where's the remote?

02:31:26.000 Alright, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Friday morning edition of the Power Hour.

02:31:29.000 This is Dave von Kleist and Joyce Riley, and yeah, a quick promotion here.

02:31:33.000 There's a lot of folks out there.

02:31:34.000 We've got a couple of new listeners.

02:31:36.000 Our last caller, Tim up there in Michigan, how's he listening?

02:31:41.000 He's listening on WHRI.

02:31:43.000 And the current frequency that comes in around here, we're in the Midwest here in Missouri, 11.785, usually comes in pretty doggone good.

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02:32:18.000 A trip of probably about 38,000 miles.

02:32:21.000 Something ridiculous like that.

02:32:23.000 But anyway, the point is that this little radio that we got, the Mini 300, it is a pocket radio.

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02:33:10.000 But, hey, you definitely want to have one of these.

02:33:14.000 Okay, now before we get back to the phones...

02:33:16.000 Yeah, I have this clip ready here, because this, again, and I hate to be banging the drum about this movie, Network, but it is so important.

02:33:23.000 It's sort of like the movie Braveheart, or the movie The Patriot, you know?

02:33:27.000 These are movies that you need to watch every once in a while, just to smack reality right between your eyes, and mine as well.

02:33:35.000 So we don't forget about what we have learned, because if you forget your history, you're destined to repeat it.

02:33:42.000 This movie came out 30 years ago, 1976, And the message in this movie about the control of the media is truer now than it was then.

02:33:52.000 I had no idea when I saw this movie how significant it was.

02:33:57.000 And when I saw it again, it was on television about two months ago.

02:34:02.000 And I only caught the last half hour, and I said, oh my gosh, I'd forgotten all about that.

02:34:06.000 So anyway, I recently obtained a copy, and I watched it the other night, and I tell you, this is must viewing.

02:34:13.000 Go to your video store, get a copy of this.

02:34:15.000 I'm going to play a clip in this scene.

02:34:19.000 Howard Beale, who is the news anchor, who has all of a sudden found this new purpose in life in spreading this message of common sense.

02:34:27.000 At one point he goes on his program and he says, hey, the Arabs are taking over the corporations.

02:34:31.000 They're taking over our corporation that owns this network and we've got to stop them.

02:34:36.000 Well, the owner of the corporation calls Mr. Beale into his office.

02:34:40.000 He's not real happy.

02:34:41.000 He sits Mr. Beale down, and he closes the curtain, and as the room darkens, he walks to the end of the long table to address Mr. Beale in private, and he speaks.

02:34:52.000 and here's part of his speech.

02:34:54.000 You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Veal, and I won't have it!

02:35:08.000 Is that clear?

02:35:10.000 You think you've merely stopped a business deal?

02:35:13.000 That is not the case!

02:35:15.000 The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! 1.00

02:35:20.000 It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity, it is ecological balance!

02:35:26.000 You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. 0.99

02:35:33.000 There are no nations.

02:35:34.000 There are no peoples.

02:35:35.000 There are no Russians.

02:35:36.000 There are no Arabs.

02:35:37.000 There are no Third Worlds.

02:35:38.000 There is no West.

02:35:40.000 There is only one holistic system of systems.

02:35:45.000 One vast and inmane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.

02:35:54.000 Petrodollars, Electrodollars, Multidollars, Reichmarks, Rings, Rubles, Pounds, and Shekels.

02:36:04.000 It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet.

02:36:13.000 That is the natural order of things today.

02:36:19.000 That is the atomic And sub-atomic and galactic structure of things today!

02:36:31.000 And you have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

02:36:38.000 And you will atone!

02:36:44.000 Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

02:36:47.000 I'm going to stop it there, because it gets better.

02:36:50.000 And if you want to see it, you're going to have to get a copy of this film, Network.

02:36:57.000 Anyway, man, you talk about the corporate board.

02:36:59.000 You talk about a disease of the mind.

02:37:02.000 Yes, money makes the world go round, but money is not the purpose of life.

02:37:08.000 Love is the purpose of life.

02:37:12.000 You can't take it with you.

02:37:13.000 How many times have we all heard that?

02:37:16.000 However, it was said, in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

02:37:24.000 I'm not going to tell you who made that particular statement, because some of you might get upset, because you're more worried about the messenger than you are the message.

02:37:33.000 We're gonna go to the phones.

02:37:34.000 Harry in Texas, you're first up and I have to apologize for having to let you go the other day.

02:37:39.000 It's just we flat ran out of time and that's the way it works.

02:37:42.000 Harry, thank you for calling.

02:37:43.000 You're on the air.

02:37:44.000 Okay, good morning, Dave.

02:37:45.000 Good morning, good to hear your voice.

02:37:46.000 Yeah, right.

02:37:47.000 Dave, this guy that you had on a couple of days ago that said he's mad as hell.

02:37:54.000 That was a terrific audio clip.

02:37:56.000 Yeah, that's from the movie I was just talking about.

02:37:58.000 That's the... Okay, well, here's my point.

02:38:02.000 What we've got to do is get the people mad.

02:38:06.000 And you are in a good position to do it.

02:38:09.000 Just like this guy in that audio clip you had there.

02:38:14.000 We're beating around the bush.

02:38:15.000 You know there's an old saying.

02:38:18.000 No great nation was ever saved by good people.

02:38:22.000 Because good people will not go to the extent to save it.

02:38:27.000 And that's our situation right now.

02:38:31.000 We've got to get these people mad and you know what the best thing to do that could get them mad and a lot of people get hurt but by golly I think it's worth it.

02:38:41.000 If we had a financial collapse in this country We could separate the wheat from the chaff and take this country back.

02:38:49.000 Maybe so.

02:38:50.000 I don't know.

02:38:50.000 But on the other hand, it could go the other way.

02:38:52.000 It could.

02:38:53.000 It could throw all of mankind into a desperate and hopeless slavery situation.

02:38:59.000 It could, yes.

02:39:00.000 But the possibility is, this is America.

02:39:03.000 This is not a third world country.

02:39:06.000 We've got some brains here, but we don't have enough red-blooded Americans to get mad enough to take this country over. 0.71

02:39:14.000 Well, we do, but we've got to figure out a way to get them mad, and that's why I've been saying, Harry, you've been with us for a long time.

02:39:20.000 You've been a listener of The Power Hour for many years, and you've heard me say numerous times that I'm sorry, that it seems to me that the only way to get Americans off of their big, fat, pimple-covered, blood, you know, bedsore butts Is to take away their remote control, cancel the football game and a beer delivery, and let them eat something other than pizza. 0.98

02:39:45.000 Well, if that'll get them mad, that's what I would do then.

02:39:49.000 Well, then let's go!

02:39:51.000 You know, what do we do to get these people to grab the pitchforks and the torches and storm the castle?

02:39:56.000 Get them mad!

02:39:58.000 I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!

02:40:01.000 Alright, that's what we gotta convey to all these people, to take this country over.

02:40:05.000 God bless you and Joyce, Dave.

02:40:07.000 Thank you.

02:40:08.000 This was good work.

02:40:08.000 You go, boy!

02:40:10.000 Let's go!

02:40:10.000 Woo!

02:40:11.000 Woo! 0.99

02:40:12.000 All right, thanks for the call, Harry.

02:40:13.000 Joe in Arkansas, I hope you're mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.

02:40:17.000 Well, I'm mad, yeah.

02:40:19.000 I can't seem to get other people mad though.

02:40:22.000 I try, but they don't seem to get mad.

02:40:24.000 Even though I give them lots of good reasons to.

02:40:27.000 But anyway, I have two things I'd like to tell you about briefly.

02:40:30.000 All right.

02:40:31.000 And first is that yesterday I had a very interesting visit with a woman from Huntsville, Arkansas, who's become quite a famous author.

02:40:38.000 And she's now in her 70s, has lived all her life in Huntsville, Arkansas, which is a town of about 1,500 people.

02:40:45.000 And she became a famous author some years ago, and now she's invited to travel and speak all over the world.

02:40:50.000 And so she just got back from Dubai and the Middle East, and she also told me that she's recently been to Europe and Russia and Ukraine and various other places also.

02:41:02.000 And so here is, and she's not particularly political.

02:41:05.000 Her books are not about politics.

02:41:06.000 She's never been a person that's interested in politics or conspiracy theories or things like that very much.

02:41:12.000 But here she was telling me.

02:41:14.000 She told me, very matter-of-factly, everything that our media and our government tell us about the rest of the world is a total lie.

02:41:21.000 And she says this country is the most hated country in the world now because of what our government is doing.

02:41:28.000 And she told me that life in this country Is nowhere near as good as Americans are propaganda to believe.

02:41:36.000 You know, from what she said, it sounded to her like she thought that people in Moscow and Kiev now have a better life than people in America.

02:41:44.000 And she said life was particularly good in Dubai and Saudi Arabia.

02:41:48.000 The government there has a lot of money and is doing a lot of good things to help the people with the money.

02:41:52.000 So that was very interesting, I thought.

02:41:54.000 And she was also telling me about the bird flu.

02:41:56.000 And she also told me that the bird flu is a complete hoax.

02:42:01.000 That the wild birds don't get it, and the only birds that do are these domesticated birds that are kept in horribly unsanitary conditions, and that the people can't get it unless they have intimate contact with these birds.

02:42:12.000 And so she said that the whole idea that the world is in danger from birds is a complete hoax.

02:42:17.000 This is what she's learned from traveling around the rest of the world.

02:42:21.000 So I thought it was a very interesting conversation.

02:42:23.000 Well, sounds to me like some of the things we've talked about on this program are right along those lines.

02:42:29.000 And she's never heard your program, but she's saying the same thing.

02:42:32.000 I'll be doggone.

02:42:34.000 Interesting.

02:42:34.000 Well, thank you so much.

02:42:35.000 There's one other thing I'd like to bring up.

02:42:37.000 Please, go ahead.

02:42:38.000 Okay, if somebody knows more about the law about this, I would really like to hear from them.

02:42:42.000 And that's this.

02:42:43.000 Some time ago, I guess about a year and a half ago, a friend of mine told me that if When I got a check and went to deposit it in my bank account, if instead of signing my name on the back of it to endorse it, like we're always taught to do, if I would just print, for deposit only, and then put it in my bank account, then it could not be counted as income that the IRS could, you know, say was my income that I should pay taxes on.

02:43:09.000 Oh, really?

02:43:09.000 Yeah.

02:43:10.000 And so I started doing it.

02:43:11.000 So I started wondering, well, I wonder what they're going to do with the bank if I do this.

02:43:14.000 But anyway, next time I got a check, put for a deposit only where you're supposed to endorse it, and handed it in to the bank teller, and she just passed it through, you know, without a question.

02:43:22.000 And so if anybody knows more about the law on that particular little issue, you know, my friend told me about all he could, which is what I've told you, but if there's anybody else that knows more about that, I sure would be interested in hearing about it.

02:43:35.000 Well, that's really interesting.

02:43:36.000 Well, thank you for that.

02:43:37.000 Well, you just put it out there, so we'll find out if there's any truth to that.

02:43:42.000 Okay, I appreciate that.

02:43:43.000 Let's go to Michigan.

02:43:45.000 So, Anna Marie, welcome aboard.

02:43:47.000 You're on the air.

02:43:49.000 Hello.

02:43:49.000 Well, hello.

02:43:50.000 Am I a first-time caller?

02:43:51.000 You're a first-timer?

02:43:52.000 Yes, I am.

02:43:53.000 Alright, welcome aboard.

02:43:55.000 How do you hear the program?

02:43:56.000 Of WHRI.

02:43:58.000 Wonderful!

02:43:59.000 And what prompted you to give us a call this fine morning, my dear?

02:44:02.000 Well, your gentleman that you had on today said that the new laws were supposed to be talked over on 9-11.

02:44:12.000 Yeah.

02:44:13.000 Okay.

02:44:14.000 Yeah.

02:44:16.000 The planes hit the financial section of New York.

02:44:21.000 Was that two birds with one stone?

02:44:25.000 Could be.

02:44:27.000 Sure, why not?

02:44:29.000 I don't know.

02:44:29.000 You know, that was the first thing that popped into my mind.

02:44:33.000 It was the financial section.

02:44:35.000 Yeah, I'm sure that there were several birds with one stone in this particular issue.

02:44:40.000 I think that the idea that Larry Silverstein had himself a piece of real estate that was gushing money, just losing money, month after month.

02:44:50.000 I mean, from what I understand from William Rodriguez, who was in charge of maintenance there at the Trade Center, he told me that the Trade Center was sitting at approximately a 65% occupancy.

02:45:01.000 Which is like, you stop and think about the amount of money that they would be charging for office rentals And there's 35% vacancy.

02:45:09.000 My gosh, they were losing tons, millions and millions of dollars every month.

02:45:16.000 How would they get out of this particular financial albatross?

02:45:19.000 Bankruptcy.

02:45:20.000 Well, either bankruptcy, but how do they get rid of the buildings?

02:45:23.000 In every other situation, well, you blow it up and bring them down.

02:45:26.000 Right.

02:45:27.000 Okay, but you can't do that in New York.

02:45:29.000 I mean, it's too congested.

02:45:30.000 You can't, you know, raise a pair of towers because they're losing money.

02:45:35.000 How are you going to bring them down?

02:45:36.000 You can't, you know, dismantle them.

02:45:39.000 They cost five times as much to dismantle buildings of that size, and it would be to build brand new ones.

02:45:44.000 So you can't dismantle them.

02:45:46.000 You can't tear them down or blow them up.

02:45:49.000 But they did.

02:45:50.000 Well, yeah, but you see, they didn't do it like a planned one.

02:45:54.000 The liability would have been horrendous.

02:45:56.000 It had to be an accident.

02:45:59.000 It had to be!

02:46:00.000 That's the only way that they could bring down the Trade Center Towers was to either have it an accident or have it an attack.

02:46:08.000 That's the only way!

02:46:10.000 And what better way to get rid of an albatross than to have an attack and blame it on somebody else?

02:46:16.000 Boy, that keeps getting worse!

02:46:17.000 Now is that or is that not several birds with one stone?

02:46:20.000 Yep! 0.80

02:46:21.000 Thank you!

02:46:23.000 Welcome to the Power Team, Darryl.

02:46:24.000 I hope to hear from you again in the near future.

02:46:26.000 Good deal.

02:46:27.000 Let's go to Nina in Pennsylvania. 0.60

02:46:30.000 Long time listener.

02:46:31.000 How you doing, dear?

02:46:32.000 Oh, I'm doing great and I'm more than mad.

02:46:34.000 I've been mad for years.

02:46:35.000 You go, girl! 0.97

02:46:37.000 You better believe it.

02:46:38.000 I've been mad for many years.

02:46:40.000 But first of all, I would encourage everyone here in eastern Pennsylvania to get their oregason and take it. 0.66

02:46:46.000 The chemtrails this morning, I can't even describe them.

02:46:50.000 It's so bad.

02:46:51.000 The sky was blue when the sun first came up.

02:46:54.000 It is totally gray.

02:46:55.000 I have never seen so many chemtrails.

02:46:58.000 And I really think they're stepping it up.

02:47:00.000 I do.

02:47:01.000 I think so too, because we've been getting calls from all over the country, everywhere.

02:47:05.000 I mean, we always get people telling us about the chemtrails, and it's almost a yawner at this point.

02:47:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:12.000 Oh, look Joyce, we got another envelope full of pictures of chemtrails here.

02:47:16.000 I mean, we get pictures every week from people all over the country.

02:47:20.000 But what has happened in the past week, you're absolutely right, the phone calls are crazy.

02:47:25.000 The chemtrails were just amazing around here.

02:47:28.000 Oh, it's unbelievable.

02:47:29.000 I can feel it in my throat, and I'm all congested.

02:47:32.000 I'm taking that oregano.

02:47:33.000 So everybody take advantage of the 20% off and get your oregano today.

02:47:37.000 Well, thank you, dear.

02:47:39.000 But anyway, that's not what I called about.

02:47:40.000 Well, you better hurry with what you called about, because we've got less than a minute.

02:47:43.000 Go.

02:47:43.000 Okay, the ad that I sent you this morning... I got it right here.

02:47:47.000 Okay.

02:47:47.000 Everybody out there, it doesn't matter whether you're from the left or the right, we've got to get together and do this now.

02:47:53.000 Bingo! 0.99

02:47:53.000 Just forget, turn off the damn TV right now, get out there and do something. 0.99

02:47:59.000 Right. 0.99

02:48:00.000 You know?

02:48:00.000 That's right.

02:48:01.000 All the stuff in the world means nothing if you lose everything you have.

02:48:05.000 If you lose your freedom, if you lose absolutely everything.

02:48:09.000 Bingo.

02:48:09.000 It ain't gonna make a difference.

02:48:10.000 That's right. 1.00

02:48:11.000 Get off your butts! 1.00

02:48:12.000 That's right. 1.00

02:48:13.000 There we go.

02:48:13.000 So everyone, get mad now.

02:48:15.000 There you go, Nina.

02:48:16.000 Okay.

02:48:17.000 Alright.

02:48:18.000 Go, go, hey, do me a favor this weekend. 0.98

02:48:21.000 Go spit a couple of bullets for me. 1.00

02:48:24.000 Alright. 0.97

02:48:25.000 We're gonna take our final break.

02:48:27.000 Oh, man, getting ready for the weekend.

02:48:29.000 Firing them all up.

02:48:30.000 Good deal.

02:48:31.000 I appreciate it.

02:48:31.000 We're going to take our final break.

02:48:32.000 We'll be back in about three minutes to wrap it up for this Friday, and yes, this week.

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02:52:03.000 All right!

02:52:11.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the final segment of today's Power Hour!

02:52:15.000 Wow, what's going on here?

02:52:17.000 I just opened the door.

02:52:18.000 Hey, you, what are you doing here, Joyce?

02:52:19.000 We just brought some company in for the end of the program.

02:52:22.000 Yeah, I was telling the folks out there that the office is closed for another hour or so.

02:52:28.000 At least.

02:52:28.000 Yeah, probably will be closed today.

02:52:30.000 We're going to close today. 0.94

02:52:32.000 I did a really dumb thing.

02:52:33.000 I turned on this new heater and it just, you know, it just got a smell in there and everybody said, no way. 0.59

02:52:39.000 So we're just airing the place out.

02:52:40.000 And so that's all there is to it.

02:52:41.000 Nothing to get worried about.

02:52:43.000 But anyway.

02:52:44.000 Yeah, we will be closed today.

02:52:45.000 So just leave your messages, especially for your Kirkman orders.

02:52:48.000 And we will get back to you on the message machine.

02:52:52.000 We'll get back to everybody.

02:52:53.000 for Kirkman on Monday.

02:52:54.000 And as you've been speaking, we've got the entire power team has filed into the studio.

02:52:59.000 We've got Vel and Rose, Debbie, and Kelly, and Joe, and Charlie, and Matt, and Susan here.

02:53:07.000 Well, anyway.

02:53:09.000 But tell you what, we have one more quick phone call to get through.

02:53:12.000 Let me see if I can get a monitor here without feeding back here.

02:53:15.000 Let's go to Bill in New Jersey.

02:53:17.000 Bill, are you there?

02:53:18.000 Yes, I'm here.

02:53:19.000 Okay, cool.

02:53:20.000 Welcome aboard.

02:53:20.000 I'm listening to you on WRMI, too.

02:53:24.000 I get the feedback here.

02:53:25.000 I can hear it.

02:53:25.000 Okay, yeah.

02:53:26.000 Let me turn this down a little bit.

02:53:27.000 There we go.

02:53:28.000 W-R-M-I? 0.98

02:53:29.000 W-H-R-I. 1.00

02:53:30.000 W-H-R-I. 1.00

02:53:32.000 Okay, that'll work.

02:53:33.000 Yeah.

02:53:35.000 Because of that bankruptcy thing, I just went through that a few days ago.

02:53:39.000 But anyway, if I came to you and I said, Dave, loan me $20,000 to buy a house.

02:53:48.000 And you set up all the parameters how I have to pay you back.

02:53:50.000 Yeah.

02:53:51.000 And I got down to one payment.

02:53:54.000 And you knew I had that money in my house and you sent somebody in there that night to steal that money from me.

02:53:59.000 Now I have no way of paying you.

02:54:01.000 Yeah.

02:54:01.000 You come knocking on my door.

02:54:03.000 Come for the money. 0.92

02:54:04.000 Somebody broke in last night, Dave.

02:54:06.000 I ain't got, well I'm sorry, I'm going to have to foreclose on you.

02:54:09.000 Okay. 0.99

02:54:10.000 This is the crap that is going on in this country. 0.99

02:54:14.000 Every so often they change the rules. 0.99

02:54:18.000 This was kind of a big rule to change.

02:54:20.000 Because I know there's people that will abuse credit cards.

02:54:25.000 But I'll tell you what, I ain't never seen so much mail come here with credit cards.

02:54:29.000 I don't have the thing.

02:54:30.000 I don't want them.

02:54:31.000 And so many of them come here every day.

02:54:34.000 Every day I get these things.

02:54:36.000 And I just don't want them.

02:54:38.000 But there is people that abuse them.

02:54:40.000 And then you really should pay.

02:54:42.000 But if you as the controller If you steal the money that I've got to pay you back, pay you off, you change the rules, I don't owe you nothing.

02:54:53.000 And that's what's happening in this country.

02:54:55.000 They've done it with IRAs years back.

02:54:57.000 They had a good IRA set up that was so good that they changed the rules on that.

02:55:02.000 I don't know if you remember that or not.

02:55:04.000 But that's the way this is.

02:55:05.000 Now they're trying to do the same thing with Social Security.

02:55:09.000 They want to stick it in the stock market so they can crash that.

02:55:13.000 Well, this is standard operating procedure, Bill, and it's just a matter of us all getting educated and figuring out how these rats have gotten into a position where they can pull this wool over our eyes time and time and time again.

02:55:23.000 When will America learn?

02:55:24.000 Hey, thank you so much for the call, Bill.

02:55:26.000 We're flat out of time.

02:55:27.000 We're right up against it here.

02:55:29.000 Man, I tell you, I am so thrilled that so many people are figuring it out and thinking outside of the cage.

02:55:34.000 We have a whole lot of new listeners and new first-time callers here.

02:55:38.000 It is real important.

02:55:39.000 I mean, our entire lives and the lives of our children's children's children are depending upon us doing the right thing.

02:55:46.000 Joyce, everybody here in the office?

02:55:50.000 Yeah, we've got all the power team members here because we want to greet all the listeners.

02:55:54.000 We want to get everybody fired up and you know what to do.

02:55:56.000 Here it is.

02:55:57.000 It's weekend time for the whole weekend.

02:56:00.000 Stand up!

02:56:01.000 Stretch your legs!

02:56:02.000 Take a deep breath and scream from the top of your lungs and the bottom of your souls as if your lives depend upon it and they do.

02:56:08.000 We will not God bless you all!

02:56:14.000 We'll see you on Monday.

Alex Jones Show - January 20, 2006

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