Alex Jones Show - 20060224_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 Welcome, my friends, to this live Friday edition The 24th day of February 2006 will be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:36.000 Wide open phones all day.

00:00:38.000 And we've got a guest joining us, Ray McGovern, 27-year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:00:44.000 Spanning, of course, from the Kennedy administration through George Bush Sr., George Herbert Walker Bush, and he'll come on and talk about the danger of U.S.

00:00:53.000 government-sponsored terrorism, the looming Iran War, what the neocons are up to, their criminal activities, and much more, joining us in 30 minutes.

00:01:05.000 But that's the only guest today, so we'll have plenty of time to have open phones and take your calls and cover all of the news.

00:01:12.000 Well, is Iraq already in a civil war?

00:01:15.000 Who is really behind the shrine, the mosque bombing, the Golden Dome Mosque being blown up?

00:01:22.000 We don't know as of this time, but a lot of the preliminary evidence points towards the globalists, and people say, well, why would they do that?

00:01:29.000 Well, the U.S.

00:01:30.000 government and Israel's own policy papers.

00:01:34.000 say that they want to have civil war in Iraq, so we'll go over some of those today.

00:01:40.000 Meanwhile, the controversy over the UAE, Dubai ports world taking over deepens.

00:01:48.000 Arab country offers to delay port takeover.

00:01:50.000 Willingness to wait will let White House address lawmakers concern over security.

00:01:55.000 Well, they didn't even do the 45-day study and investigation in violation of federal law.

00:02:01.000 We have conflict of interest with Treasury Secretary Snowe and others being involved with this company in business.

00:02:08.000 In fact, one of the top executives of the company, as I know most of you already know, just to repeat for those that don't, actually runs Dubai Ports World in Europe and Latin America.

00:02:19.000 He's going to be the head of the U.S.

00:02:20.000 Maritime Administration, so it's unparalleled.

00:02:25.000 And the neocons are all over the media.

00:02:27.000 Full court press.

00:02:28.000 It's totally normal.

00:02:29.000 It's good.

00:02:30.000 Evil liberals are trying to stop it. 0.99

00:02:34.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

00:02:35.000 It's disgusting. 0.58

00:02:36.000 Every national radio host that I know of who's a major host, other than maybe George Norrie, who is against the Port Handover, but every other one.

00:02:45.000 O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, all of them.

00:02:48.000 I've got their statements here why you're an evil liberal now if you're for not handing over the ports.

00:02:55.000 And, you know, after we did the Cheney Ballistics shooting test last week, I looked at some of the big news sites and blogs, some of the so-called conservative blogs, and they're, Alex Jones is an anti-gun liberal.

00:03:09.000 He's just anti-gun.

00:03:11.000 Cheney's good.

00:03:12.000 You guys are delusional.

00:03:14.000 Bob Barr was on with us a month ago.

00:03:16.000 He's on the NRA board.

00:03:17.000 George Bush is more anti-gun than Bill Clinton, is what he said.

00:03:20.000 But you don't care about losing your Second Amendment.

00:03:23.000 You'll turn your guns in.

00:03:24.000 In fact, I expect to hear I've got to turn my guns in.

00:03:27.000 I'm a liberal if I don't.

00:03:28.000 Why, everybody knows the liberals want to keep their guns.

00:03:32.000 Everybody knows, only real conservatives hand them in.

00:03:36.000 I was at a local gun shop buying that shotgun .28 gauge a week and a half ago, and the fella, uh, it was actually a week ago today, actually.

00:03:42.000 I bought it last Thursday.

00:03:44.000 No, last Wednesday night, that's right, and then did the test on a Thursday.

00:03:50.000 And, and, and there I am, there at the gun shop, and two different fellas are like, hey, you say George Bush is anti-gun.

00:03:57.000 And I'm like, yeah, he is.

00:03:58.000 That's not true.

00:03:59.000 Well, no, he was for the assaulters ban.

00:04:00.000 He lobbied for it.

00:04:01.000 No, no.

00:04:02.000 And then one of the managers there goes, no, no, it's true.

00:04:05.000 And his attorney general has been lobbying for it.

00:04:08.000 Huh?

00:04:08.000 What?

00:04:09.000 No, you're going crazy, Bob.

00:04:11.000 Listen, Alex, just, just please stop lying.

00:04:14.000 I mean, it doesn't matter what the facts are to these people.

00:04:18.000 It does not matter.

00:04:20.000 Bush could say, turn your guns in, and they'd say that was pro-Second Amendment.

00:04:26.000 Alright, I'm off ranting on another subject now.

00:04:28.000 When we get back from this quick break, there is so much news, we're going to run through all of it.

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00:08:13.000 There's a worldwide debate concerning Iraq, if it's a civil war or not.

00:08:21.000 If you look at a lot of the Pentagon reports, status reports, not the spin that comes off the reports, but the actual reports, it's been in a state of civil war for the last two years of the three years since the invasion began.

00:08:34.000 Yeah, we're coming up on the three-year anniversary in the middle of next month in March.

00:08:40.000 So, we see this shrine, one of the most holy shrines in Islam, in Mohammedan, being blown up, and a lot of people, including the Iranian president, say it's the U.S.

00:08:52.000 government or the Mossad.

00:08:53.000 Well, I held back a day or so.

00:08:54.000 I said, you know, I don't know if that's the case.

00:08:57.000 But looking at the evidence, it does fit into stated neocon and Israeli programs.

00:09:03.000 And I'm just covering the facts here.

00:09:05.000 And it does fit into the stated goal of breaking the country into three or four different regions to be Balkanized.

00:09:13.000 So we'll get into that, and a bunch of new developments with the port deal and fleets of neokinds going out and saying you're an evil liberal if you're against it. 0.93

00:09:22.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:09:23.000 Of course, the Democrats themselves are very hypocritical as well. 0.98

00:09:27.000 They loved it when the Communist Chinese, who are much more dangerous than the UAE thousands of times, were given ports that are much more strategic, not just in the Western Hemisphere, like the Panama Canal and the Isthmus there, but also, of course, Long Beach and several others. 0.98

00:09:41.000 So, that is coming up.

00:09:43.000 More details there.

00:09:45.000 But every day, there's articles that are in my stack that I miss, that I don't get to.

00:09:49.000 And at the end of the show, I go, man, I should have covered this.

00:09:52.000 I mean, they're always up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:09:55.000 There's a lot of them, though, that I don't cover on air.

00:09:57.000 And here's a few of those.

00:09:58.000 I'm going to make sure, just out of the gates, we cover.

00:10:03.000 UK troops will not destroy hobby fields.

00:10:06.000 This is out of the Scotsman, the major paper of Scotland.

00:10:09.000 And it says the commander of the British forces in southern Afghanistan insisted yesterday that his troops would play no part in destroying poppy fields.

00:10:19.000 Ministers have declared that one of the main tasks of the 5,700 strong force, that was just propaganda though, was to help an Afghan heroin production.

00:10:30.000 Help end Afghan heroin production, which supplies 90% of the narcotics sold illegally on British streets.

00:10:37.000 But Colonel Gordon Messinger of the Royal Marines said troops deployed to Helmaid, the biggest center of heroin production, will not become involved in the process being considered by President Hamid Karzai's government of eradicating poppies.

00:10:54.000 There will be absolutely no maroon berets on the Marines with He said.

00:11:03.000 British forces will not even directly stop vehicles suspected of smuggling the drug.

00:11:08.000 That will be the task of Afghan police and the army.

00:11:11.000 The main role of British forces will instead be to enable the Afghan police and army to establish control over areas which have so far remained outside their reach, allowing a resurgent Taliban and drug lords to gain ascendancy, said Colonel Messenger.

00:11:28.000 Alright, let's stop right there.

00:11:30.000 The official numbers are that opium productions, they derive heroin from, the opiate, had exploded after the Taliban was removed from power.

00:11:42.000 It doubled the first year, quadrupled the next year, and now went over eight times what it previously was, and the eight times the all-time low under the Taliban in late 2001 is double the all-time production previously from the mid-1990s.

00:12:01.000 And our own CIA has been caught publicly many times shipping in heroin, opium, and it's well known in the Golden Triangle, and of course what happened in Southeast Asia, in Vietnam, it is well known that the drug lords were put into power, put back into power, over the different regions.

00:12:20.000 And this spin that the Taliban has re-asserged, had a re-assurgence, It has been resurrected in the last few months, and now there's a flood of opium. 0.56

00:12:30.000 It's ridiculous, and it flies in the face of the facts.

00:12:34.000 It's like when I'm down in Mexico, occasionally take a trip down there, and you'll see Mexican troops guarding giant marijuana fields. 0.97

00:12:41.000 You go to Guatemala, or Salvador, Nicaragua, you'll see them guarding poppy fields and coca fields, coca plantations, with the cocaine bushes.

00:12:50.000 It's everywhere.

00:12:51.000 It's well known.

00:12:51.000 Now, will the military stage some raids on some Pashtuns or others who aren't in with the big drug lords?

00:12:59.000 Will there be a drug war in Afghanistan?

00:13:02.000 Yes, but it'll be the same as it is in Colombia, where the pilots are given GPS coordinates to spray this field, but not a field a mile away, because that field's owned by the right-wing death squads.

00:13:13.000 That's all the drug war is internationally, is the major drug cartels, the people that run our government, going after their competition.

00:13:21.000 That is an absolute fact.

00:13:23.000 I have had, oh it's got to be over 10 top CIA agents on this show.

00:13:29.000 I've had many DEA agents on this broadcast.

00:13:31.000 We've been whistleblowers exposing this.

00:13:34.000 I've had so many of them on over the years.

00:13:36.000 In my film, Police State 2 The Takeover, we talk to Terry Reid and others and show the documents and confront General Barry McCaffrey, who was the drug czar at the time, about how his head of drug interdiction was actually shipping in masses of heroin and cocaine.

00:13:50.000 I mean, it's a joke, ladies and gentlemen.

00:13:53.000 And then they've got the nerve They've got the nerve, when they pull over, your friends or your family, your children that are dumb enough to have marijuana, or dumb enough to have cocaine, or dumb enough to have any of these drugs, and then they'll take them in, what, five years with that minimum sentencing for a crack rock? 0.98

00:14:17.000 Five years for that? 0.95

00:14:18.000 I mean, it's amazing But again, the very drug cartels can be linked to having controlling stock and in many cases private ownership.

00:14:28.000 The very drug-dealing western drug lords that have the so-called Medellin cartels and others like marbles in their pocket, like chump chains in their pocket, little minions of them, they will openly own the prisons that incarcerate our youth and incarcerate our society, which all those major studies show.

00:14:46.000 Are there universities of crime?

00:14:48.000 I mean, your 16-year-old gets caught with a crack rock, and they go into jail, hard time for 5 to 10 years, minimum sentencing for 5, and they come out with hepatitis, with HIV, they come out with tattoos all over their body, they come out because they got to join a gang to survive, they come out and they know how to pick locks, they know how to arm rob, They know how to break into houses.

00:15:10.000 They know how to make bathtubs speed. 0.98

00:15:12.000 They're hooked in with drug dealers, and they're going to be an army of street-level drug dealers. 0.92

00:15:18.000 It's sick! 0.88

00:15:19.000 It's sick!

00:15:20.000 Did you know that 90 percent, this is the FBI's own numbers, of home invasions and home break-ins are drug-related?

00:15:27.000 90 percent!

00:15:28.000 And did you know It's because those crackheads, those heroin heads, have got $150, $300 a day habits.

00:15:36.000 They gotta have it.

00:15:37.000 And instead of it being dispensed through decriminalization, I'm not for total legalization, instead of it being dispensed by the county health department, which in Europe they've done, it's made, again, the use go down by 50%.

00:15:47.000 In some countries even higher, but the average is around 50%.

00:15:51.000 These are official numbers, and crime just plummets.

00:15:55.000 Crime, just drug-related robbery, muggings, things like this, just fall through the floor.

00:16:00.000 Because, listen, you get these zombie junkies out there, and they gotta have their fix, and they're just waiting for you to leave with your family, and they think you're gone, and they go in your house, and your 15-year-old daughter's there, and they get scared, and they end up blowing your daughter away.

00:16:16.000 I personally am sick of it, and I'm tired of it, and these drug dealers are slick, folks.

00:16:21.000 You gotta hand it to the New World Order. 0.78

00:16:23.000 They controlled the drug trade when it was legal, then when they lost their monopoly, they made it illegal to use the cops, which they could then corrupt with the drug money to go after their competition, then they used that money and that power up the drug trade to take over all the other rackets.

00:16:37.000 And you've got to hand it to the government again.

00:16:39.000 At least they're being more transparent now.

00:16:41.000 These big lottery companies, major news articles on almost all of them being mafia controlled.

00:16:48.000 Mafia just goes to the government now.

00:16:49.000 They make the government the house.

00:16:51.000 And I have to stand there in line at convenience stores when I'm buying some bottled water or buying a bag of chips or something up working late.

00:16:58.000 I have to stand in line while these poor people... I watch the people that buy lottery tickets. 0.78

00:17:03.000 And I sit there and I watch him, and I'm not saying all of you that buy lottery tickets are like this, but it's pathological.

00:17:09.000 In most cases...

00:17:10.000 They sit there and they buy one.

00:17:12.000 There's this big line.

00:17:13.000 And then they get all nervous.

00:17:15.000 I'll take one of those.

00:17:16.000 And then I'll take one of those.

00:17:17.000 And then you've got to scan it through.

00:17:18.000 And then here are all these people that want to buy probably ten times the amount of money of goods that this one lottery freak is buying.

00:17:26.000 And they'll be there in some tattered clothes.

00:17:29.000 They'll have a little kid with a dirty face standing there. 1.00

00:17:32.000 Skinny, obviously needs more food.

00:17:34.000 And their parents are there buying their cigarettes, and buying their beer, and buying their lottery tickets, and you watch them go out and get in their disheveled car, and scratch them off, and uh, let me scratch it off, and see if I'm gonna win, and you'll see them scurry back in to the stores you're driving off, because they didn't win that time, and you gotta buy some more, and then I gotta hear about how good gambling is, and how good it is for society, and how it makes money for our schools, and just, we're a joke, people!

00:18:03.000 So I kind of wish the government would just say, okay, we deal the drugs, come buy the heroin from us, because that'll make crime plummet, and more people will then go, well, this isn't cool.

00:18:12.000 See, it'll take the money out of it, but it'll never happen.

00:18:14.000 It'll take the money out of it, because then somebody can't go deal crack and make $10,000 a week and drive around in their Caddy going, I'm the Mac Daddy, baby.

00:18:23.000 You know, then it loses all its flair.

00:18:25.000 Then it won't suck our kids into it.

00:18:27.000 But that isn't going to happen.

00:18:28.000 That's not going to happen.

00:18:30.000 And we've got, of course, triple the heroin, double the cocaine on our streets we did 12 years ago.

00:18:34.000 We've gone from 1.3 million in the prison system to over 7 million in the system right now.

00:18:39.000 Over 4.5 million in prison, behind bars right now.

00:18:41.000 Millions of others, again, in the system.

00:18:44.000 It's a great system.

00:18:45.000 The bigger it gets, the more black ski masks, the more SWAT teams, the more cameras, the more raids, the more people in prison, the more drugs on the streets, the more money that's in it, the more car bombings in Texas and people getting shot by paramilitary Mexican troops openly working for the U.S.

00:19:02.000 government.

00:19:03.000 It doesn't matter if I have DEA agents on to expose us.

00:19:05.000 It doesn't even matter what the facts are.

00:19:07.000 We're going to be ruled by the mafia.

00:19:10.000 You see, the government's just coming right out with it.

00:19:12.000 We're the mafia.

00:19:14.000 And we're going to run your life.

00:19:16.000 And the UK troops, no, we're not going to stop any of the exploding opium.

00:19:20.000 Of course you're not.

00:19:21.000 You're there, part and parcel, to get that opium, so young kids can jab a needle in their arm, and so they can have a big overdose, so they can swell up blue, and have heart failure, and so their parents can stand over their coffin.

00:19:34.000 And then, at the same time, if a kid doesn't die of an OD, you can slam them in your college of crime.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, but don't worry.

00:19:45.000 Don't worry, police that enforce this evil system.

00:19:48.000 It's called You Reap What You Sow.

00:19:50.000 It's all gonna come back on you.

00:19:51.000 Look what happens to your kids and grandkids when you're over there coughing.

00:19:54.000 So keep pushing your drug war. 1.00

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00:24:26.000 Very addictive.

00:24:27.000 Hits the same receptors in the brain as cocaine and heroin.

00:24:30.000 It hits narcotic receptors.

00:24:33.000 It's not a narcotic, but they've statistically shown with studies that it's more addictive than cocaine and heroin.

00:24:39.000 So see, the elites have always had monopolies over this.

00:24:43.000 And then they lost slavery because of the abolitionists.

00:24:46.000 The same crowd that was into slavery was also into tobacco and then laudanum, opium.

00:24:51.000 And so they figured out, hey, we'll take stuff that we've already gotten a lot of the population addicted to through the drug stores that openly sold it, we'll make it illegal, and we'll reinstitute slavery, and we'll be able to put people in all these prisons, just like Shawshank Redemption, working, building highways, you know, busting rocks, doing whatever, and then the drug dealers can be in control of the prisons themselves and have slavery.

00:25:16.000 And that's how it works.

00:25:17.000 I hope people realize that.

00:25:20.000 And I hope people in government, I hope the minions that enforce this realize that none of you are immune from this.

00:25:26.000 The evil you're doing comes back on all of us and you need to stop it and you need to get more sophisticated and realize what we're dealing with.

00:25:35.000 I mean, we're dealing with addiction here.

00:25:37.000 Addiction is a major problem.

00:25:38.000 You know, I've fought with tobacco addiction, starting, stopping, for years.

00:25:44.000 And I'm a strong-willed person.

00:25:46.000 Thank God I never got addicted to anything else, because I never tried anything else.

00:25:49.000 But this is very, very serious.

00:25:51.000 Should I go to prison?

00:25:53.000 Because sometimes I break down when somebody's smoking a cigarette or a cigar and I smoke one?

00:25:57.000 No!

00:25:58.000 It hits the same receptors in the brain.

00:26:00.000 But we think of drugs as dirty because making it illegal creates a huge black market and then dirty criminals do get involved in it.

00:26:08.000 But don't associate the criminals involved with drugs with the drugs.

00:26:12.000 Let's take a few calls here.

00:26:13.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Debra in Michigan. 1.00

00:26:16.000 You're on the air Debra.

00:26:17.000 Hi, yeah I have three questions I wanted to ask you and then I would hang up.

00:26:21.000 But I first want to respond to the question you talked about tobacco.

00:26:27.000 If the government is so concerned about our health, why don't they take the additives out of the tobacco that make it freebasing?

00:26:34.000 Well, that's the thing, is that what, a Marlboro Light has over 150 chemicals, which are more addictive than the tobacco.

00:26:41.000 Right, and if you take the chemicals out, then it makes the tobacco unaddictive.

00:26:45.000 Well, that's the thing, the molecules of many of these chemicals are more addictive themselves than the tobacco.

00:26:51.000 Right, so the EPA should actually be going after the additives rather than going after the people.

00:26:56.000 All they're doing is they're taking over the industry and the government is moffying the tobacco industry and demanding a cut.

00:27:02.000 Okay, now I'm going to ask you three questions, I'm going to hang up and then you can answer them.

00:27:07.000 The first one is, why does the Bush family have an embassy in Kuwait?

00:27:16.000 And is it part of the United Arab Emirates?

00:27:19.000 That's number one.

00:27:20.000 Number two is why are American, the power brokers and the Bush's family, why are they so concerned about democracy all over the world and interfering in other countries that we never had a problem with before?

00:27:35.000 They keep saying the word democracy, but I remember in school when I said the Pledge of Allegiance, I said the Pledge of Allegiance to the Republic.

00:27:44.000 You got it.

00:27:45.000 Big difference.

00:27:45.000 Okay, and what's the third one?

00:27:46.000 And the third one is, um, why are the, okay, what most people don't realize is most of the marijuana that is being shipped into the country right now, probably 90% of it is already loaded up with cracks.

00:27:59.000 And this is what most people don't understand.

00:28:02.000 I didn't know that.

00:28:03.000 Yes it is.

00:28:04.000 As a matter of fact, I live outside the Detroit area and all the police departments have told me that they have not done any kind of marijuana confiscation, whether it's somebody with a joint in their pocket, or whatever, and a motor with cracks.

00:28:18.000 I've got to go to break, so I'm going to comment on your questions.

00:28:20.000 I'm going to have to do that now.

00:28:21.000 Thank you for the comments.

00:28:22.000 I know occasionally marijuana supposedly is laced with other things, a lot of times chemicals, because it's been sprayed.

00:28:29.000 And I think marijuana is overall bad, but I don't believe it should be illegal.

00:28:34.000 I believe the superpower hydroponic marijuana really does knock people out and really is dangerous.

00:28:39.000 I don't think the marijuana 30, 40 years ago was.

00:28:42.000 And by the way, George Washington, in his letters, smoked it.

00:28:45.000 I mean, you would go buy some at the store or grow it if you had a stomach ache and it has a lot of medical uses.

00:28:50.000 But marijuana is not one-tenth as bad, statistically, as alcohol.

00:28:54.000 I mean, it causes hundreds of thousands of deaths every few years, and marijuana is nothing compared to that.

00:29:00.000 So, that's my comment on the marijuana.

00:29:04.000 As for the Bushes, I don't know about an embassy. 0.96

00:29:05.000 They have a big office in the capital of Saudi Arabia.

00:29:10.000 And yes, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates and all of those are part of the same kind of commonwealth that was set up, turn of the last century, by the British.

00:29:19.000 And the Bushes and many others, the Queen of England, are in deep, deep business with these people.

00:29:23.000 And they just say it's about democracy overseas.

00:29:26.000 The Pentagon's documents say it's about empire and control and getting resources.

00:29:31.000 PNAC says that.

00:29:33.000 That's just rhetoric.

00:29:34.000 Oh, we're bringing them freedom.

00:29:36.000 Meanwhile, the people running our government in most cases try to put dictators into power, but they're dictators.

00:29:41.000 So, it's just more lies.

00:29:44.000 We'll come back.

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00:33:48.000 Let's continue with some of your phone calls right now.

00:33:51.000 Let's talk to Roger in Oklahoma.

00:33:53.000 Roger, you're on the air.

00:33:55.000 Hey Alex, I'll try to be real quick because I know you're short on time, but I just wanted to say I'm a first-time caller and I've started looking into some of your stuff and I mean, at first it was kind of iffy, but the more I researched it, the scarier it gets.

00:34:13.000 And yeah, but first of all, I just wanted to, you were talking about gambling.

00:34:18.000 Here in Oklahoma, it's illegal to gamble anywhere except for on Indian reservations, which is the Indian casinos.

00:34:24.000 Well, they made a law where the Remington Park can now have casinos inside of there, which I don't think is quite right, but whatever, they're going to do what they want to do.

00:34:35.000 Also, I've heard you talk about stuff being deleted off of your computer, and this morning I woke up and was going to make a few copies of some discs of stuff that I've got off your website, and it's all gone.

00:34:50.000 Every bit of it.

00:34:51.000 So, yeah.

00:34:54.000 Well, more often than not, computers have hiccups and problems.

00:34:57.000 I mean, 90% of the time, if we have a technical problem, it's us, or it's one of our providers.

00:35:03.000 But we have had it before, where we've had somebody hack in, you know, post-pornography.

00:35:07.000 A naked woman on a motorcycle, no big deal. 1.00

00:35:10.000 But our servers were designed to automatically go down.

00:35:14.000 When that happened, and we've had the Defense Department links, we've tracked them back, doing stuff, going on, erasing things off in the past.

00:35:22.000 But it's very sophisticated, it's hard to tell when it's actually happening.

00:35:26.000 There are pre-set viruses and programs and things that the government and private corporations launch where it isn't individuals going out and attacking your computer, but it's viruses, it's worms, it's pre-programmed things that do it to everybody.

00:35:41.000 And you could have a download of the ND500 race, you could have a download of the Kentucky Derby, it's not even political.

00:35:48.000 It's just these worms and viruses go in and wreak havoc with your computer.

00:35:52.000 And there's thousands of different things these worms and viruses can do.

00:35:55.000 They can do things like not let you have access to your keyboard, where your computer doesn't work, or where you have to reload Windows.

00:36:01.000 Windows is really the problem, because what, 80% of people use Windows as their operating system, so most of the viruses And worms are written for that.

00:36:09.000 That's why Mac is so good, because most of the virus producers and others don't make it for Mac, because that's a very small part of the overall market.

00:36:19.000 Yeah, I understand.

00:36:20.000 I'm actually somewhat computer savvy.

00:36:22.000 Well, I'm not.

00:36:23.000 I've just got the basics.

00:36:24.000 But the thing is, everything was working fine two days ago.

00:36:29.000 I do a virus scan every morning when I wake up.

00:36:32.000 Nothing was on my computer, so sometime between that and when I was in school, I got seven Trojans on my computer that were slipped in somehow.

00:36:42.000 There's a lot of stuff going on.

00:36:43.000 Anything else on your mind, sir?

00:36:46.000 No, that's pretty much it.

00:36:48.000 I appreciate the time, man.

00:36:50.000 I appreciate you being a listener to the broadcast.

00:36:52.000 Let me make it clear that if somebody wants to go play poker and gamble, That's their business.

00:36:59.000 If someone wants to go bet on a horse race, that's their business.

00:37:02.000 I'm for freedom.

00:37:03.000 I am not for banning gambling, but I am for the state not being involved in it, and I am for it being in certain areas of the country and not... I mean, they want to build five casinos in Austin, Texas, with all the dirt and all the problems and all the prostitution that brings.

00:37:18.000 Our economy shouldn't be hamburger and pizza joints and topless bars And gambling establishments.

00:37:24.000 I mean, is that what America is going to be known as?

00:37:27.000 One giant Amsterdam? 0.99

00:37:30.000 One giant whorehouse? 1.00

00:37:32.000 And all the numbers, all the studies show it is the poor that buy the lottery tickets predominantly. 0.67

00:37:37.000 I mean, it's one thing if you're a wealthy person or middle class, you occasionally buy a lottery ticket.

00:37:42.000 I, for one, have never bought one.

00:37:44.000 It's another thing, these people who are just dreaming.

00:37:47.000 They're not going to work extra hard.

00:37:48.000 They're not going to go try to start their own business.

00:37:50.000 They're going to dream about how the lottery, how they're going to win it.

00:37:54.000 Well, number one, every major lottery we've looked at has been involved in scandals and fraud.

00:38:00.000 I mean, they're mafia run.

00:38:01.000 You can just see that as plain as day.

00:38:04.000 And at the same time, you look at how many famous people get it.

00:38:07.000 And statistically, it's impossible.

00:38:09.000 I mean, it might be 1 out of 100 million that you're going to win a $10 million lottery, say, in Texas.

00:38:14.000 Well, then how magically is, you know, half the time it's some judge or some football star or somebody.

00:38:20.000 They do that for the added hype of it.

00:38:22.000 It really is staged.

00:38:24.000 And I can do, in fact, I have written articles about it.

00:38:27.000 I can do whole shows about this. 0.96

00:38:29.000 But when you read 1984, the proletariat, the slaves, don't care about the police state because they have their precious lottery and there's all these stupid systems of how you're going to supposedly win. 0.96

00:38:40.000 My only point is, it's another indicator of a society in decline. 0.93

00:38:44.000 Listen, I'm not even against ultimate fighting.

00:38:46.000 If two guys want to get in a ring together and beat each other's brains out, you know, that's freedom, that's free market.

00:38:51.000 You know, whatever, let them get in there, let them bare knuckles if they want to. 1.00

00:38:55.000 But, at the same time, it's an indicator that it's so popular that it's a gladiatorial, Rome-like state in decline.

00:39:02.000 All of the indicators are there.

00:39:05.000 You know, the ball games and gladiatorial events, the gambling, these are all tell-tale earmarks of a society that's long in the tooth and becoming very, very decadent and corrupt.

00:39:16.000 Let's go ahead and take another call.

00:39:18.000 Let's go ahead and talk to, I believe it's Aurelio in Texas.

00:39:23.000 You're on the air, go ahead.

00:39:25.000 No sir, it's Aurelio in Texas.

00:39:27.000 Okay, I'm sorry, that's the name I was told by the folks taking your name.

00:39:32.000 I have a funny story to tell you.

00:39:35.000 I have been out of the Navy Honorable Discharge for I think about almost 10 years now.

00:39:42.000 I traveled around, lived in different states for a while, met my wife in California, came down to Houston.

00:39:49.000 A funny thing happened a couple of months ago.

00:39:51.000 She joined a couple of chat rooms and made a friend who invited her to come up to stay with her in Michigan.

00:39:59.000 Well, since she didn't know her, she decided to Google her and find out what she could find out about her.

00:40:05.000 And then her friend looked her up.

00:40:07.000 It turns out that me and my wife and my five-month-old son Well, I mean, how did you learn this?

00:40:14.000 How did you confirm this?

00:40:16.000 terrorist.

00:40:18.000 What I want to know is, where can I go to get a t-shirt to say, "Your tax dollars at work?" Well, I mean, how did you learn this?

00:40:26.000 How did you confirm this?

00:40:27.000 How did you ascertain it?

00:40:29.000 Well, apparently she has, not my wife, but her friend, has some pretty computer-shavvy friends.

00:40:36.000 And I don't know how they looked it out.

00:40:38.000 Yeah, let me just say this, sir, and I appreciate your call.

00:40:41.000 Let me comment on that because Ray McGovern is coming up in just a minute.

00:40:43.000 You can call back another day if you want to get into this more.

00:40:46.000 Let me just, this is how this works, okay?

00:40:49.000 A lot of analysts and experts and individuals that are involved in security that I really trust believe that this whole NSA thing where spying on you was put out on purpose as a chilling effect.

00:41:01.000 I have three articles today, one out of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer out of Seattle, Washington, where mainstream peace groups, the government is openly telling them that the Pentagon is surveilling them with physical assets, that is actual troops in plain clothes.

00:41:17.000 Totally illegal, total violation of federal law, total violation of posse comitatus.

00:41:22.000 And they admit they quote, have no connection to terrorists, but just that they think that they need to be surveilled.

00:41:27.000 So they put articles out like that to scare everybody.

00:41:31.000 Then, people start Googling each other, and then, oh, I've got a computer-savvy friend that shows that you're a red flag.

00:41:38.000 See, this is the hysteria.

00:41:39.000 This is the chilling effect.

00:41:40.000 This is the fear.

00:41:41.000 Your computer crashes.

00:41:43.000 Why?

00:41:43.000 It must be the government.

00:41:45.000 You're, oh, I better not speak out.

00:41:47.000 They're watching me.

00:41:50.000 The NSA is many times better than the CIA, but still, they don't have that many employees.

00:41:54.000 It's mainly computers that are scanning and listening and doing all of this, and what they're doing is illegal, and we have nothing to hide, so it doesn't intimidate me, it doesn't scare me, but now everyone thinks the government's watching them.

00:42:07.000 Everyone thinks there's physical assets watching them.

00:42:09.000 There's 290 plus million people.

00:42:12.000 In fact, the trend shows it's about, they just said two months ago, we crossed actually the 300 million mark.

00:42:18.000 So I'm incorrect.

00:42:19.000 It's now 300 million.

00:42:20.000 And so, let's say you've only got a couple thousand physical asset spies in Pentagon intelligence groups.

00:42:30.000 Defense Intelligence and other groups.

00:42:32.000 And by the way, most of those people are patriots and are on our side.

00:42:36.000 Like Able Danger.

00:42:37.000 They find out before 9-11 there's about to be these attacks.

00:42:40.000 They pick up the chatter with NSA.

00:42:42.000 They go, we want to bust these guys.

00:42:44.000 And the government says, leave them alone.

00:42:45.000 These are our assets.

00:42:47.000 Leave Muhammad Ato alone. 0.99

00:42:48.000 Back off or you'll be arrested.

00:42:50.000 FBI agents want to go bust the supposed hijackers, the decoys.

00:42:55.000 And they're told, no, back off.

00:42:56.000 It's a high-level government operation.

00:42:59.000 Embassy heads don't want to let them back into the country.

00:43:01.000 Say they're terrorists.

00:43:02.000 No, let them back in.

00:43:03.000 They're government agents and part of a terror training op.

00:43:07.000 The head of the Defense Language School out in Monterey, California goes public and says, the government did this.

00:43:11.000 I was forced to train four of the hijackers.

00:43:15.000 The dean of the Defense Language School, see?

00:43:17.000 So most of the people in the government who actually know what's going on are going, man, this is criminal.

00:43:22.000 They're actually with us.

00:43:23.000 They're trying to whistleblow.

00:43:25.000 They're getting in trouble.

00:43:26.000 They're getting fired.

00:43:27.000 They're getting arrested.

00:43:28.000 This is happening to them.

00:43:30.000 So of the thousands of spies they've got, I mean, sure, they've got some young 27-year-old Special Forces guy who's gone into Central Intelligence Agency, domestic field work, and he's at peace meetings.

00:43:41.000 I mean, certainly, you're going to have them there.

00:43:43.000 And he's there hearing everybody show pictures of dead Iraqi children and talk about how we care about the troops and how we want to stop the use of DU. 0.91

00:43:50.000 And the guys go out in the parking lot and throw up and start crying.

00:43:53.000 They find out we're good!

00:43:55.000 We're the good people!

00:43:56.000 We haven't done anything wrong!

00:43:58.000 We don't have anything to be ashamed of.

00:44:00.000 We're good.

00:44:01.000 So what if the NSA is listening?

00:44:03.000 They're going to find out we're the good people!

00:44:05.000 They're going to find... Can you imagine government analysts listening to this show when they're about to hear Ray McGovern on here, who briefed presidents, high-level CIA, one of their chief analysts, telling you everything we're saying?

00:44:15.000 They're going to hear that!

00:44:16.000 They're going to hear their colleagues!

00:44:17.000 They're going to hear more and more of them!

00:44:18.000 I mean, we've had We've had Colin Powell's Chief of Staff go public and say much of what we're saying.

00:44:26.000 More and more congressmen and women on this show saying what we're saying.

00:44:30.000 Bob Woodward coming out and saying there may be a bigger attack and Bush will become a dictator.

00:44:34.000 They're using the attacks.

00:44:36.000 At least he's going that far.

00:44:37.000 See, there's an awakening.

00:44:39.000 We're the good guys.

00:44:40.000 We're the majority.

00:44:42.000 They're afraid.

00:44:43.000 They're trying to intimidate us to shut up.

00:44:46.000 And I'm going to tell you something I'm not going to shut up.

00:44:47.000 Did you get Ray McGovern on?

00:44:50.000 Do you have my guest now?

00:44:52.000 Oh great, I didn't hear you when you told me he was there.

00:44:55.000 So I apologize for Ray holding during my ranting.

00:44:58.000 Ray McGovern, if I try to go through his bio, he'll be with us for the next hour.

00:45:01.000 We appreciate him joining us.

00:45:03.000 Ray McGovern, 27 year career at CIA Analysts, spanning administrations from John F. Kennedy to George H.W.

00:45:08.000 Bush.

00:45:08.000 He briefed President Bush every morning.

00:45:10.000 Ray is now a co-director of a Servant Leadership School, which provides training and other support for those seeking ways to be in relationship With the marginalized poor, and it goes on.

00:45:21.000 He also is one of the founders of the Veteran Intelligence Agents for Sanity, and he's written for major publications like the Boston Globe, Christian Science Monitor, Miami Herald.

00:45:31.000 It goes on and on, and he's been on the forefront of exposing the fake intelligence and the fraud.

00:45:38.000 Mr. McGovern, thank you for coming on with us.

00:45:40.000 Glad to be with you again, Alex.

00:45:42.000 You bet.

00:45:43.000 I don't know how much of my rant you just heard, but we have callers calling up going, I think the government's on my computer.

00:45:48.000 Oh, I think they're watching me.

00:45:50.000 And I believe and others believe that they're putting out these, the Pentagon's watching you stories to scare people not to get involved.

00:45:58.000 And I was trying to explain that most of the people in the government are now on our side.

00:46:01.000 Ray, can you speak to getting past your fear?

00:46:05.000 Yeah, I think, you know, What FDR said still obtains, you know, the only thing that fear is fear itself.

00:46:14.000 The deliberate cultivation of fear of, quote, the enemy, end quote, and then fear of what we Soviet analysts used to call the organs of state power.

00:46:26.000 In other words, the police, the FBI, the NSA, and those folks.

00:46:31.000 That's deliberately whipped up here so that people will not exercise their constitutional freedoms to speak out, to assemble freely, and to debate things like the misbegotten Iraq War.

00:46:44.000 So, I think you're absolutely right, Alex.

00:46:47.000 If the name of the game is to intimidate us, the only reaction that's appropriate is to be not intimidated and don't worry about who's listening.

00:46:57.000 As you say, if people from NSA have got us on tape now, they'll probably download it tomorrow.

00:47:04.000 Well, let's just all say hi!

00:47:06.000 Hi NSA, you're welcome to the show.

00:47:07.000 It'll be an interesting thing.

00:47:09.000 I hope you find it as interesting as we will find it dishing out what we conceive to be parts of the truth.

00:47:16.000 So, I think you're right.

00:47:18.000 What we need to do is just make believe everything is okay, exercise our rights, because once we start being intimidated and not exercising our rights, well, Then we play right into, not only what the administration would like to see, but also, of course, what Osama Bin Laden would like to see, because the worse it gets here, the better for him. 0.63

00:47:38.000 Well, that's exactly what Alexander Sholzhenitsyn said.

00:47:41.000 I mean, once you're intimidated, it's over.

00:47:44.000 Here's an example.

00:47:46.000 Pop star British pop star Morrissey was quizzed by the FBI and Britain's Special Branch after he called President Bush a terrorist.

00:47:53.000 The singer said he was baffled to be held and interviewed by the authorities but he was released when they realized Well, the singer was not a threat to the free world.

00:48:03.000 He went on to say that this proves that we are not in a free society, that this happened, that his mild statements resulted in this.

00:48:11.000 I mean, they know this guy who's been a big star for 15, 20 years isn't a threat.

00:48:16.000 He just said this war is terrorism, Bush is a bigger terrorist.

00:48:19.000 Same thing Cindy Shan and others have said.

00:48:21.000 And so they know that this will get headlines.

00:48:23.000 All of you speak out.

00:48:24.000 They come question you.

00:48:26.000 Can you comment on that?

00:48:27.000 Sure. 1.00

00:48:29.000 They'll do all kinds of strange things, a lot of them very stupid from their point of view. 1.00

00:48:34.000 Take, for example, Cindy Sheehan. 0.99

00:48:37.000 She was given a ticket to the State of the Union Address, and she arrived there and didn't do anything unusual.

00:48:46.000 It got kind of warm there.

00:48:47.000 She had to walk up three flights, and so she loosened her overcoat, and underneath she had the same T-shirt that she had been wearing all day.

00:48:57.000 And it had the number of U.S.

00:48:59.000 troops that had been killed in Iraq.

00:49:01.000 At that time, it was 2,250 or so.

00:49:05.000 As soon as the attendant saw the number on her shirt, as though prompted, I'm sure he was prompted, he swooped down, grabbed her, let her out rather roughly, put her in the elevator, took her right down, and fingerprinted her, taken her to the police station.

00:49:25.000 She spent the next three hours Uh, being booked and all this kind of thing.

00:49:29.000 Now, that's just unconscionable.

00:49:32.000 That is really unconscionable.

00:49:33.000 Here it is, the citizen's home, the House of Representatives, State of the Union address.

00:49:39.000 She has a ticket, and because she has the number of U.S.

00:49:43.000 troops killed in Iraq on her shirt, which she'd been wearing all day, she was hurriedly given the ticket toward the end of the afternoon.

00:49:50.000 Uh, she's ejected in a rather, uh, rather rough way and then sort of booked at the police station.

00:49:55.000 Well, then they tried that PSYOP, that shoddy PSYOP of the congressman's wife saying she was drug out.

00:50:01.000 Then it turned out none of that was even true.

00:50:03.000 It didn't even happen.

00:50:05.000 Yeah, well, she certainly wasn't subjected to the rough treatment.

00:50:08.000 She wasn't taken to the police station or anything like that.

00:50:11.000 And then they charged her with several things she didn't even do, and then had to drop the charges. 1.00

00:50:15.000 But in other cases, a guy will have a sign saying, no blood for oil.

00:50:18.000 There's 500 Bush supporters on the side of the street, and they give him a year and a half in jail, and he serves six months.

00:50:24.000 And the judge says, yes, we say what a protest is.

00:50:27.000 We say where it can be.

00:50:28.000 And in this new Patriot Act, With the amendment that Specter wants, it'll be a national police force with a secret service, even at events where quote, officials aren't, if they say you do anything wrong, felony.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, it's getting pretty bad, Alex.

00:50:42.000 Well, stay there, Ray McGovern.

00:50:43.000 I know there's a lot of issues you want to talk about, the upcoming Iran situation, what you think's going to happen there, where the neocons are going.

00:50:49.000 We're really honored to have you with us.

00:50:51.000 You'll be with us about 40 minutes to the next hour.

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00:54:14.000 I've got a stack of these intimidation pieces in England and in the U.S.

00:54:18.000 I always assume that so-called authoritarian figures just assume that pop rock music is a slightly insane and untouchable platform for the working class to stand up and say something noticeable.

00:54:29.000 My view is that neither England nor America are democratic societies.

00:54:32.000 You can't speak your mind, and if you do, you're investigated.

00:54:36.000 And when I was in England just, what, four or five months ago after the London bombings, Well, we all have to get into that database.

00:54:42.000 That way it becomes 300 million.

00:54:44.000 I had police walk up to me when I'd be interviewing somebody and say, "We're putting you into the terrorism database." And now it's been in the news.

00:54:50.000 You protest the National ID card, they come put you in the database.

00:54:53.000 They say, "You're going in a terrorist database." Don't let that intimidate you.

00:54:57.000 They are the terrorists when they do that.

00:54:58.000 Ray McGovern comments. - Well, we all have to get into that database.

00:55:03.000 That way it becomes 300 million.

00:55:05.000 And that makes it a little more difficult.

00:55:07.000 I'm reminded of the Danes, you know, when the Nazis invaded Denmark, What that very gutsy king did in those days was, when he was told that Jewish people needed to wear these yellow stars on their shirts, he said, all right, we'll all wear them.

00:55:24.000 And every Dane donned one of these yellow stars.

00:55:30.000 And of course, they couldn't distinguish the Danes from the Jewish people living in Denmark, and that saved the day in large measure. 1.00

00:55:37.000 We've got to be imaginative.

00:55:38.000 We've got to be a little bit relaxed about this because as bad as it is, if we hang in there together, I think we can face up to this.

00:55:46.000 Well, isn't this manifest evidence of the type of attempted tyranny we're witnessing, not just in Iraq or Iran.

00:55:51.000 They're trying it here.

00:55:53.000 Well, the key thing in my view, Alex, is that we have something really unprecedented now.

00:56:01.000 The President of the United States has openly claimed That he can choose what laws he'd like to abide by and which ones he wants to violate.

00:56:12.000 I'm speaking specifically of the eavesdropping laws.

00:56:16.000 There is one on the books, 1978, called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

00:56:22.000 And it had two purposes, equally important.

00:56:26.000 The first one was to prevent unauthorized intrusion on the Fourth Amendment rights of American citizens.

00:56:33.000 And that had been going on big time under J. Edgar Hoover and under the COINTELPRO program during Vietnam, where they monitored people like Martin Luther King and other Americans who were doing nothing wrong, other than nothing wrong at all, just exercising their First Amendment rights.

00:56:50.000 So they wanted to prevent that.

00:56:52.000 And the second main reason for the FISA, so-called Act of 1978, What do we mean by maximum latitude?

00:57:00.000 to eavesdrop as he saw fit on any danger to national security.

00:57:06.000 Now, what do I mean by maximum latitude?

00:57:09.000 I mean that the president can do anything he wants for three days, wiretapping any other kind of surveillance.

00:57:18.000 It's already a rubber stamp.

00:57:19.000 Yeah, before he even goes to the court.

00:57:21.000 And when he goes to the court, I think there's less than 1% of the cases that have, I know there's less than 1% of the cases that have been turned down.

00:57:30.000 So what he decided to do is to just go ahead and start this monster eavesdropping program all by himself.

00:57:37.000 What about Russell Tice?

00:57:38.000 He now testified two weeks ago in Congress, as you know, Rand McGovern, about how there are 50 other bigger programs, 50 plus, spying on everything.

00:57:47.000 Well, I was there at that testimony and I did hear Russell Tice talk about other programs that he wasn't at liberty to talk about in open session.

00:57:55.000 But yeah, this is just the tip of the iceberg and that's why they didn't go to Congress.

00:58:00.000 I mean, Remember, this is back right after 9-11.

00:58:04.000 Congress would have given the President any authority that he would have wanted within reason.

00:58:10.000 Look at the Patriot Act that they passed.

00:58:12.000 Well, let's talk more about it when we break.

00:58:14.000 We'll be back in 70 seconds with Ray McGovern.

00:58:16.000 And by the way, we know there was NSA intercepts of the supposed hijackers, but then the government nixed that, didn't they, Ray?

00:58:23.000 Yeah, well, they didn't translate them for us the whole day, and, you know, they really messed up on that, too.

00:58:28.000 We'll be right back with the second hour with Ray McGovern.

00:58:30.000 I want to get your take, not just on the police state, but what's happening with Iran and whatever issues you want to bring up.

00:58:35.000 We'll be right back with Ray McGovern, PresidentBinett.TV.

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00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Well, we really do have an esteemed guest on with us today, 27-year career veteran of CIA analyst.

00:59:20.000 From the JFK administration to George Herbert Walker Bush, one of his chief analysts, giving him his morning briefings six days a week.

00:59:29.000 And his bio is literally too long to read.

00:59:32.000 He's, of course, got degrees from Georgetown.

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00:59:46.000 We've got him for another 45 minutes or so, and I want to try to cover as many topics as possible.

00:59:51.000 But right now, Ray, at the end of the last hour, was bringing up the spying and how Bush says he's above the law.

00:59:57.000 But he has these signing ceremonies saying he's above the law and other stuff.

01:00:00.000 He says even if the Patriot Act doesn't pass, he says, I'm going to still enforce it.

01:00:06.000 He says that he can torture people.

01:00:09.000 He can order the torture. 0.91

01:00:10.000 John uses they can torture children.

01:00:13.000 Let's spend a few minutes on that, Ray.

01:00:14.000 I mean, he's not just saying he's above the law and spying.

01:00:17.000 He is declaring Führer-type powers.

01:00:21.000 Yeah, in German it's the Führerprinzip, the principle of being the leader, the Führer.

01:00:27.000 He's getting this support from Dick Cheney and the lawyers that are attracted to Dick Cheney, David Addington, for one, and then this fellow, John Yoo.

01:00:40.000 I was listening to John Yoo make a presentation live in Washington here just two days ago, and it was really quite a shattering performance.

01:00:50.000 Because he was saying, you know, the President really has supreme authority over foreign policy.

01:00:57.000 Sure, the Constitution says that Congress can declare war, but let's look at that word declare.

01:01:03.000 That simply means that they openly say, hey, there's a war on.

01:01:09.000 No more than that.

01:01:11.000 Congress doesn't have the power to prevent or authorize war.

01:01:14.000 That's all up to the President.

01:01:16.000 It was the most amazing contravention of everything we all learned.

01:01:20.000 It's a total lie.

01:01:21.000 Yeah.

01:01:22.000 And what it's designed to do, of course, is to give the president the powers of a king.

01:01:29.000 Now, for those of your listeners who are a little rusty on how the Constitution was formed by our framing fathers, our founding fathers, the framers of the Constitution, try to remember that these folks, most of them came out of this English experience where You know, the English King would merrily march their subjects off to war, for their own good, of course, but the subjects would have absolutely nothing to say about this.

01:01:56.000 And so, the people who fashioned our Constitution at the Constitutional Convention were hell-bent and determined that that would not happen here in this country, and therefore, they reserved the right to declare or authorize war To the elected representatives of the people in the Congress, and not in the executive.

01:02:14.000 Yeah, that was one of the major issues in the 10-year debate before the Declaration of Independence, was that we're tired of being subject to the whims of this king, and then you claim that, no, America is about having a king.

01:02:31.000 Yeah, well, you know, specifically the authorization of war rests in the first article of the Constitution.

01:02:39.000 Now, in the second order of the Constitution, they say that the President, in time of war, shall act as Commander-in-Chief.

01:02:46.000 It doesn't say that the President can declare war, or authorize war, or anything like that.

01:02:50.000 Yeah, once Congress declares it, and says who the enemy is, and levies the funds for it, then the President becomes the commander of Congress's order, empowering him to.

01:03:01.000 Right.

01:03:02.000 So that's not what John, you learned at Harvard Law School, and teaches at Berkeley Law School.

01:03:08.000 It's really a travesty.

01:03:09.000 I mean, you can always find a lawyer to tell you what you want to hear, but what happened here, and this is really important, Alex, it started with the torture.

01:03:17.000 Okay?

01:03:18.000 What happened right after 9-11?

01:03:21.000 The President and Cheney and Rumsfeld got together and they said, look, we're going to capture some of these guys.

01:03:26.000 This was a short segment.

01:03:27.000 We'll have 14 minutes for you to go through this.

01:03:29.000 Let's talk about the Fuhrer principle with our guest, Ray McGovern, high-level CIA analyst, 27 years spanning with four administrations.

01:03:37.000 He'll be back with us on the other side.

01:03:39.000 And we'll talk about this because this is 180 degrees from what America is. 0.96

01:03:44.000 I mean, this is ridiculous, what they're claiming. 0.95

01:03:44.000 Okay? 0.95

01:03:46.000 And they're claiming on a host of issues, starting with the torture.

01:03:49.000 We'll detail it with our guest on the other side.

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01:09:03.000 It's just amazing the research and the things he's done for this country.

01:09:08.000 I mean, he's a Cold Warrior, and he's also a graduate of the Harvard Business School, Advanced Management. 0.86

01:09:14.000 He has a degree in Russian Studies from Fordham University, and a certificate in Theological Studies from Georgetown University, and I can't keep reading.

01:09:24.000 I mean, there's about ten other paragraphs that I just don't have time to read.

01:09:27.000 I mean, he is an expert's expert, but he's the first to tell you that a real expert says they don't know everything.

01:09:32.000 I've interviewed him for a film I'm about to release.

01:09:34.000 And you know, he makes that point that Bush and the neocons claim they know everything, but then when all their analysts, all of them, tell them, no, this isn't going to work in Iraq, they say, shut up, and then they manufacture their own office to put out false intelligence.

01:09:47.000 Ray, before we go any further, any key websites or organizations we should know about or visit?

01:09:53.000 Well, I'd suggest that TomPaine.com, that's T-O-M-P-A-I-N-E.com, and Truthout.com, and CommonDreams.org.

01:10:07.000 Those are the three that I very often post my writings on.

01:10:12.000 I almost, well, I've almost given up giving my writings to the print media because only a couple of the papers will print them, and posting them gets them up right away, and the readership turns out to be in the several tens of thousands. and the readership turns out to be in the several It's a lot more than that, sir.

01:10:32.000 I mean, we post your articles at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, and we get millions of visitors per site a week now.

01:10:38.000 It's insane.

01:10:39.000 Doesn't that worry the old-line establishment that's trying to propagandize?

01:10:43.000 It was in the news last week.

01:10:45.000 Bush spent $1.6 billion for fake newscasts and paid off reporters.

01:10:48.000 Here's an example.

01:10:50.000 Tommy Francis saying the UAE deal is wonderful.

01:10:53.000 Whether it is or not, he's claiming that he's saying this is an independent person, but he's getting $450,000 a year from the Bush administration trying to hide that.

01:11:01.000 Yeah.

01:11:02.000 Yeah, it's really pretty shameless, isn't it? 0.96

01:11:05.000 I mean, it's almost ludicrous. 0.94

01:11:06.000 I mean, it would be funny if it weren't so serious.

01:11:10.000 But, you know, they are scared of us.

01:11:11.000 And witness what happened last year, last spring, on May 1st.

01:11:18.000 British, the London Times of all papers, not a far-out radical rag by any stretch, published the minutes of a meeting that Tony Blair held with his principal national security advisors on the 23rd of July.

01:11:34.000 The infamous White House memo that makes Downing Street look tame.

01:11:38.000 Yeah, well these are the Downing Street ones that I'm referring to here, the White House as well, but In that memo that was revealed dating back from July 2002, the head of British Intelligence says, Tony, I've just come back from talking with George Tenet.

01:11:55.000 He tells me three important things.

01:11:57.000 Number one, there's going to be a war.

01:11:58.000 The President has decided on that war for regime change in Iraq.

01:12:02.000 Number two, they're going to quote, justify, end quote, this war by the conjunction of Weapons of Mass Destruction and Terrorism.

01:12:12.000 The translation from the British there would be, we're going to say the Iraqis have all manner of weapons of mass destruction and they're likely to give them to terrorists. 0.90

01:12:21.000 And then number three, and this is the crowning jewel here for intelligence analysts, number three, the intelligence and the facts are being fixed around the policy.

01:12:32.000 Now, that is three months before there is any intelligence estimate.

01:12:36.000 There was only an intelligence estimate when Congress required one before voting for war.

01:12:41.000 And then that was fixed.

01:12:42.000 That's now good.

01:12:43.000 And it was two months before Congress was even asked about approving a war.

01:12:48.000 And now we learn right around the same time on the eve of the war, or as they're building up for it, the new White House memo And the White House hasn't denied it, where they're talking about painting planes up like U.N.

01:12:59.000 planes to get them shot down, or, quote, we'll have a defector say that he saw WMDs.

01:13:05.000 Now, that's clearly they're saying they're going to fake it, because they're saying, oh, we'll just say a defector saw this.

01:13:10.000 I mean, that's incredible.

01:13:11.000 Yeah.

01:13:12.000 Well, that too is documentary.

01:13:14.000 The British have that.

01:13:15.000 It is the 31st of January.

01:13:18.000 In other words, A month and a half before Colin Powell went on with his bogus speech about all these weapons of mass destruction.

01:13:27.000 You know what the problem is, Alex, as I see it?

01:13:30.000 There's so many indignities piled up upon indignities that it's hard to keep up.

01:13:35.000 No, you're right.

01:13:36.000 It's a little bit inured, a little bit shell-shocked, and it's hard to say all this beyond the pale.

01:13:41.000 Well, I call it... I mean, that's what I call it, is an orgy of evidence.

01:13:45.000 But you were trying to make a point before the break interrupted you, and then I want to go through this.

01:13:49.000 We're talking about the Fuhrer principle that you spoke of in German, where they're actually declaring the opposite of what our country was founded on, what the Constitution says.

01:13:58.000 And they say the Constitution says Bush is above the law, and I want to just repeat this briefly.

01:14:03.000 He's not just saying he's above the law on torture.

01:14:05.000 You're right, it started there.

01:14:06.000 Now he's saying, you don't pass the Patriot Act, I'll enforce it without a law, domestically.

01:14:10.000 He says, you're not going to overthrow posse comitatus, I'll just use military on the streets.

01:14:15.000 You're not going to... Oh, you're saying it's illegal for me to give contracts to my friends?

01:14:20.000 I'll do it.

01:14:21.000 I mean, it's a host... This is dictatorship.

01:14:23.000 Please go over that for us.

01:14:27.000 Yeah, well, let me pick up Posse Comitatus first.

01:14:30.000 That, of course, is the law that forbids the use of the U.S.

01:14:34.000 Army troops for internal police functions in this country.

01:14:40.000 Now, that is really scary, because as I've observed this administration, not only have the top ranks of the intelligence community been politicized and corrupted, but so has the army.

01:14:56.000 I mean, you look at these folks.

01:14:58.000 To get a star, you have to make so many compromises that after a while, you don't know the truth from the lie.

01:15:06.000 This fellow, Kimmick, for example, he was testifying two days ago before a major group.

01:15:13.000 And he was saying, you know, the Iraqis are coming along just great and we're training them up wonderful and it's going to be just fine.

01:15:19.000 Delusional!

01:15:20.000 This is the same guy who was in charge of the troops that tried to take Fallujah the first time in April of 2004.

01:15:28.000 And when he found out that there were two reporters from Al Jazeera inside Fallujah, he required as a condition for the armistice That the Al Jazeera reporters leave.

01:15:45.000 He recriticized one of them by name, and two days later, we know from other British documents, Bush wanted to bomb Al Jazeera headquarters in the Middle East, and only Blair successfully dissuaded him from doing that.

01:16:00.000 Now, this is the kind of crew that you're working with.

01:16:03.000 Well, that lawless bomb an ally!

01:16:05.000 It is, and what you have here is a military establishment, That is really goose-stepping around, saluting the president, saying whatever the president wants to hear.

01:16:15.000 When congressmen go out to Iraq and they say, do you have enough troops?

01:16:19.000 The colonels, the majors, some of the generals say, look at us!

01:16:23.000 No, we're spread very thin.

01:16:24.000 We don't have enough troops to do the job.

01:16:26.000 They go home, testify before Congress with McNamara.

01:16:30.000 Now isn't that a Freudian flip?

01:16:32.000 With Rumsfeld sitting right behind them.

01:16:35.000 And they say, oh yeah, we have plenty, plenty of troops.

01:16:37.000 We don't need any more troops.

01:16:39.000 So, they've kind of prostituted themselves.

01:16:41.000 Why do I mention this?

01:16:43.000 I mention this because as I look at the top Pentagon brass, I have to conclude that unlike my days as a U.S.

01:16:51.000 Army officer, unlike my days, those folks have been so politicized that if the President told them To go ahead and exercise police functions within our country, they would salute and they would do it, and that's really scary.

01:17:04.000 Well, I'm sure you heard about that big conservative conference a few weeks ago, and Viet Dinh, one of the authors of the Patriot Act, number two under Ashcroft, in the old administration a few years ago, He said, you know, the President, and I've got the quotes, you know, it needs to be above the law to keep us safe, and then Bob Barr basically got booed off the stage when he said, no, that's not what America is about.

01:17:24.000 I mean, a lot of these neocons want a Nazi Germany.

01:17:27.000 They want to be little toadies of a dictator.

01:17:30.000 Yeah.

01:17:31.000 Well, Taney said the same thing, of course, you know, when this eavesdropping came up.

01:17:35.000 He said, in times of war, the President does not need to be constrained by any law.

01:17:40.000 And, you know, getting back to, you know, when it all started, and we should have been onto it then, some of us were, but the press certainly wasn't.

01:17:48.000 After 9-11, the President wanted to, quote, take the gloves off, okay, end quote.

01:17:54.000 Even Rumsfeld remonstrated and said, two days, on the day after 9-11, he said, well now, Mr. President, you know, it goes against international law to attack some other country.

01:18:06.000 And the President chewed his rear end off.

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01:18:11.000 We're going to kick some ass, quote-unquote, right out of Richard Clarke's book, okay? 0.98

01:18:16.000 Well, how did that translate into action? 0.98

01:18:19.000 The President called George Tenet in, the head of the CIA, and he says, you got some guys that can do the business on these captives that we're getting?

01:18:26.000 And we'll have to conclude, finish that up, but the short answer simply is the tenant said, well, let me go look. 0.65

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01:23:03.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:23:06.000 I know we've got a load of phones and your calls are coming up before this hour ends, I promise.

01:23:11.000 Ray McGovern has been gracious enough to give us the rest of the hour.

01:23:16.000 This is a short segment.

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01:23:18.000 We'll take calls during that segment.

01:23:19.000 Mr. McGovern, you were continuing with, we cannot stress how serious this is.

01:23:24.000 I mean, for the first time since the Civil War, a president is declaring total power, total dictator power, in front of everyone, and then openly saying, if there's another big attack, we may shut aside the Constitution.

01:23:37.000 His paid mouthpieces, covert mouthpieces now exposed, I mean, I've actually got my passports ready.

01:23:44.000 I'm going to stay here, but I may evacuate my family if something else happens.

01:23:49.000 Let's get right down to brass tacks.

01:23:51.000 I've talked to you privately.

01:23:52.000 Even without me prompting on air, you've gone there.

01:23:54.000 I mean, come on.

01:23:56.000 These terrorist attacks, these wind-up toys.

01:24:00.000 What happened with Mozadek?

01:24:02.000 How our government carried out terror attacks to blame it on him?

01:24:04.000 I mean, bottom line, your gut analysis on the current terror attack, 7-7, I even had John Lopez on from the Clinton administration, high-level anti-terror, the FBI, and he said, Alex, I can't say it's not MI6, it looks like it is, because of the SWAT guy.

01:24:20.000 Can you comment on government-sponsored terror?

01:24:23.000 Well, yeah, only to say, Alex, that terrorism is in the eye of the beholder, you know?

01:24:30.000 We're talking about 1.3 billion Muslims in the world and most of them watching on TV programs like Al Jazeera and others that are showing real live footage of not only Abu Ghraib But dead toddlers with their intestines hanging out every day.

01:24:50.000 Yeah, and you know, what they're showing are attacks by helicopter gunships built in the US, manned by the Israelis, attacking the West Bank.

01:25:04.000 Tanks rolling into the West Bank.

01:25:07.000 We're talking about bulldozers, caterpillar bulldozers, made in Illinois. 0.88

01:25:13.000 Or crushing Palestinian homes. 0.94

01:25:15.000 That's what they see.

01:25:16.000 Now, it's not manufactured.

01:25:18.000 It's not a Hollywood set.

01:25:19.000 It's what's happening.

01:25:20.000 Certainly there's some real organic terrorism, but I'm talking about... I mean, you've openly said before you're not buying the official story and it's suspicious and you've mentioned Ray McGovern's book.

01:25:30.000 Well, Ray McGovern now has gone public and said it's conclusive it was a government op.

01:25:35.000 Well, what I'm saying about government-supported terrorism is this.

01:25:41.000 You know, we all need to take five steps back, Alex.

01:25:45.000 You know, when the President tells us, you know, why do they hate us?

01:25:48.000 You know, it's they hate our democracy or they hate our freedom, you know?

01:25:53.000 You know, if you believe that, then I've got a bridge up there in Brooklyn that I'd very much like to sell you.

01:25:58.000 I mean, it's not that at all.

01:25:59.000 They hate our policies.

01:26:00.000 They really hate our policies.

01:26:03.000 And what our policies have done have been to impoverish and to oppress a goodly segment of the Muslim world. 0.99

01:26:11.000 Now, terrorism is like malaria.

01:26:14.000 And I think I may have said this before in the show, but it bears repeating.

01:26:17.000 The way you eliminate malaria, of course, is you find out where the mosquitoes are breeding, and you find that swamp, and immediately you station sharpshooters around that swamp, and you try to shoot as many mosquitoes as they leave the swamp, right?

01:26:32.000 Well, of course not.

01:26:33.000 Of course not.

01:26:34.000 What you do is you drain the swamp, okay?

01:26:37.000 Instead they flooded and created a swamp much bigger than it was before.

01:26:40.000 Exactly.

01:26:41.000 What you need to do is drain the swamp of the grievances, the legitimate ones, that many of the Muslim people have to get rid of. 1.00

01:26:49.000 But the Pentagon's own plan, P-2-O-G, says they actually want to stir them up. 0.64

01:26:52.000 Well, they certainly have succeeded in that, but, you know, if we're talking about preventing terrorism from coming here to these shores again, or preventing terrorism from endangering our friend Israel, well, before we invaded Iraq, there were no terrorists in Iraq.

01:27:11.000 There was a couple of old, aging guys that Saddam Hussein gave refuge to, but the only other terrorism he was doing, and I don't excuse this by any shot, He was giving money to the families of suicide bombers in Palestine. 0.58

01:27:27.000 Now, that's, as I say, not to be condoned, but now look at Iraq. 0.99

01:27:32.000 Now look at Iraq. 0.72

01:27:32.000 How many suicide bombings were there in Iraq before we invaded Iraq? 0.72

01:27:36.000 Well, Ray, what I'm trying to get to is, last time you were on, and now there's thousands, but I mean, just a few months ago I had you on, without even prompting, you said, ah, the whole 9-11 thing, you know, very, very suspicious, this whole thing stinks to heaven, a great pretext.

01:27:50.000 I mean, what's your take on that?

01:27:52.000 Well, there are a host of unanswered questions having to do with 9-11, and they stink for lack of answers.

01:27:59.000 Why are there no answers?

01:28:01.000 Because our government will not answer the questions.

01:28:04.000 Why was it, for example, that the President of the United States is down there in Sarasota at this elementary school?

01:28:10.000 The whole world knows exactly where he is.

01:28:12.000 He's on live TV, okay?

01:28:15.000 And this terrible thing happens up in New York.

01:28:18.000 The Secret Service agent says, we're out of here.

01:28:21.000 And he's not.

01:28:22.000 He stays around for 23 minutes reading My Pet Goat.

01:28:25.000 How did that happen?

01:28:26.000 Who countermanded that order?

01:28:27.000 Who called Mayor Willie Brown and told him not to fly?

01:28:30.000 Yeah, so?

01:28:31.000 Uh, Ray, stay there.

01:28:32.000 I want to get more into this Spurer principle and then into the upcoming Iran situation, what you think's going to happen, and take calls.

01:28:39.000 Stay with us.

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01:31:44.000 twenty five eight six six eight eight five sixty six twenty five one more time that eight six six eight eight five sixty six twenty five crashing through the lies and disinformation is alex jones only on the gcm radio network waging war on corruption monday through friday from eleven to two central back from nine to midnight

01:32:11.000 Going back to Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst, morning briefer for people like George H.W.

01:32:18.000 Bush.

01:32:20.000 Exposing the manifest lies, the manufacturing of intelligence.

01:32:23.000 It's admitted in the same cruise using the same lies.

01:32:25.000 Again, almost the exact same words.

01:32:27.000 In fact, you can go look at documents.

01:32:28.000 People have done this and compare it.

01:32:30.000 It's just paragraphs lifted and names have been changed.

01:32:33.000 Ray McGovern, I want to get into Iran and then take some calls.

01:32:36.000 We're going to take your calls here in a few minutes.

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01:32:43.000 Ray McGovern, I want you to look into your crystal ball.

01:32:46.000 I mean, you're a high-level analyst.

01:32:47.000 This is what you've studied.

01:32:49.000 You've studied the Middle East as well.

01:32:50.000 You've talked to a lot of other analysts.

01:32:52.000 You're part of a group of veteran analysts that are looking at this.

01:32:55.000 They're saying we've got to go into Iran, but the assessments say that it's ten years until they can get an A-bomb. 0.97

01:33:01.000 If they were left alone, we're able to buy all the equipment.

01:33:03.000 And the centrifuges, it's a total fraud, but they keep using the word atomic, nuclear, removing the seals.

01:33:09.000 Yeah, it's a peaceful facility.

01:33:11.000 But just domestically, everything we see happening, what do you see happening with these neocons?

01:33:17.000 I mean, even if Hillary gets in, she says she's for the exact same policies, maybe even more hawkish if that's possible. 0.95

01:33:25.000 I mean, look in your crystal ball.

01:33:27.000 We know you may not be right six months from now, but you've been right in the past.

01:33:30.000 We just want to get what you think's going to happen, and then what we can do to hopefully stop what you think's going to happen if it's bad.

01:33:36.000 Well, first a comment on Hillary. 0.98

01:33:39.000 She's just trying to appear more manly than the next man on the block, and that's a despicable kind of attitude to have. 0.99

01:33:47.000 The business about Iran is very troubling, because, as you say, Alex, if you look at the build-up to the war in Iraq, well, it's almost like they're using the same sentences and just substituting it, doing a universal substitution put in Iran, where we used to say Iraq.

01:34:04.000 Uh, Iran is the next on the target of the PNAC documents.

01:34:07.000 Uh, these are the project for the New American Century documents that are really the ideological visionary justification, if you want to put it that way, for these kinds of wars.

01:34:19.000 And, uh, would it be a crazy thing to do?

01:34:21.000 It would indeed be a crazy thing to do, but these are the folks, though widely known in the 80s, where they were kept at middle level levels in the Pentagon, under the uh... reagan administration they were widely known as a quote the crazies and quote uh...

01:34:37.000 you come in a monday morning and your friend with a guess what the crazy that on friday late and you feel that what and you know exactly who they were alluding to richard richard pearl and paul wolfowitz That whole crew, and they're still around behind the scenes.

01:34:51.000 These guys are like caricatures of villains from James Bond movies.

01:34:55.000 I read a Washington Post account a few years ago of Pearl at dinner parties and people walking away from him.

01:35:01.000 He's walking around saying, literally, I'm powerful.

01:35:04.000 I may attack North Korea. 0.88

01:35:05.000 Do you realize how powerful I am?

01:35:07.000 And women were just going, ewww. 1.00

01:35:08.000 I mean, imagine a full-grown man walking around saying he's powerful.

01:35:12.000 I can attack people. 0.99

01:35:13.000 Sounds like a complete wimp. 0.98

01:35:15.000 It speaks of a rusted development of some kind or other.

01:35:18.000 It's the same one that said, you know, if we go ahead and attack these countries, our children will sing hymns in our honor.

01:35:25.000 Can you imagine?

01:35:26.000 Let me, before we get too far into this, Alex, let me give some rays of hope here, because I think that what we can expect is that what we call patriotic truth-tellers and what others call leakers are really going to come out this time.

01:35:43.000 Look at the people who didn't speak out in time.

01:35:45.000 Paul Pilar, who just spoke out now, Richard Clark, Paul O'Neill, Wilkerson, who used to work for Powell.

01:35:53.000 All those people knew that this was a phony war against Iraq, and they didn't speak out when they could have prevented it.

01:35:59.000 Wilkerson has said that they all knew it was a lie, that he lied, he apologized, he said, we lied to you, it was a fraud.

01:36:04.000 Yeah, right, it would be nice if he told us then, right?

01:36:07.000 Well, what's different this time is that there are enough people that have been sensitized to the incredible damage that can happen if they keep silent, that they're coming out.

01:36:17.000 And so that's why we know that the latest national intelligence estimate, for example, says that Iran could not have a nuclear weapon for 10 years.

01:36:24.000 Now, if that's the case, who's going to bless a war against Iran on the supposition that they're an immediate threat to us? 0.87

01:36:32.000 these folks are coming out from the woodwork.

01:36:34.000 They're telling us about renderings, about prisons abroad, about torture, about eavesdropping.

01:36:39.000 It's a fair game on the administration.

01:36:43.000 Let's talk about these black, well, finish up with these black world sites, because the torture we know of is the tip of the iceberg. 1.00

01:36:50.000 But tell us more about what you see happening. 0.98

01:36:53.000 Because as you said, they're crazy.

01:36:54.000 They're probably going to go ahead with Israel. 0.97

01:36:56.000 They're talking to Turkey and Georgia about using them.

01:36:59.000 They're talking about attacking them anytime now.

01:37:00.000 Do you think that's false?

01:37:02.000 Well, what's really dangerous here is that they would resort to nuclear weapons, these so-called mini-nukes, to take out the Iranian nuclear facility.

01:37:13.000 Super bunker busters.

01:37:14.000 Yeah.

01:37:15.000 Now, this crew is so irresponsible that they don't seem to know the difference between nuclear weapons and conventional weapons.

01:37:23.000 And we know enough about the Pentagon plans to know that they've been sort of melded together.

01:37:28.000 And so nuclear weapons just pack a little bit more punch in their view.

01:37:33.000 By the way, hitting... I've read some assessments on it.

01:37:38.000 Hitting uranium enrichment facilities will create giant dirty bombs, and if one of these mini-nukes was to actually detonate and have its main fusion react, they're now reporting With these uranium stockpiles, it could do something really nasty.

01:37:55.000 Yeah, of course they use that as justification for doing it now rather than later, you know, before things will go critical.

01:38:03.000 But just, you know, if you take two steps back, this would get us into real deep trouble with the Soviet Union, with Russia, with China, with India, with all the other people who are interested in a stable Iran from which they can get oil.

01:38:18.000 It's not going to be a piece of cake.

01:38:20.000 It's not going to be a cakewalk.

01:38:21.000 It will require U.S. 0.76

01:38:24.000 You know, what you have is a bunch of blue-suited generals with stars on their lapels saying, Mr. President, we can just send these cruise missiles and these bombers and we can do the job from the air and not one guy needs to be killed.

01:38:24.000 troops.

01:38:38.000 But you were an analyst on these very subjects.

01:38:40.000 I was also an infantry officer, and I know that the infantry, as you can see in Iraq, If you're going to do the job, you need the infantry to do it.

01:38:48.000 Well, they're already bivouacked in their citadels and their keeps and their fortresses.

01:38:51.000 They're already in civil war.

01:38:53.000 And so if there's 65 million people versus 22 million people in Iran, the Iranians haven't been under 14 years or 12 years at the time of sanctions.

01:39:03.000 They've got more sophisticated weapons systems.

01:39:06.000 Can you speak to what Iran may do if they're now saying 200 sites are hit?

01:39:10.000 I mean, will the neocons get on air and go, It's unbelievable, they're firing back at us.

01:39:14.000 How dare them?

01:39:15.000 Sure.

01:39:16.000 Well, Yogi Berra warned, you know, that predictions are very difficult, especially about the future.

01:39:23.000 But the Iranians are saying they're going to strike back all over the place. 0.99

01:39:27.000 Well, I was trying to get a laugh there, Alex.

01:39:30.000 Well, it is funny.

01:39:32.000 But you're right.

01:39:33.000 They have all kinds of capabilities that the Iraqis lacked. 1.00

01:39:37.000 They have a standing army.

01:39:39.000 They could send four divisions into Iraq right now without two weeks' warning.

01:39:45.000 They could close the Gulf, cut off the oil supply from the... They almost took Iraq whenever it had a huge military rebuild up. 0.55

01:39:53.000 Yeah, right.

01:39:54.000 If we didn't help Iraq in that, they well might have done that. 1.00

01:39:58.000 So, they have all kinds of capabilities that the Iraqis lacked. 1.00

01:40:03.000 It would be bedlam.

01:40:05.000 And I hope that enough people are around that can say to the President, look, Mr. President, don't listen to this small circle of neokinds that got you into Iraq. 1.00

01:40:17.000 Listen to us.

01:40:18.000 But you know what the problem is?

01:40:20.000 The President's circle is even narrower than it was before.

01:40:23.000 Not even Colin Powell.

01:40:25.000 Say what you will about him.

01:40:26.000 Now you're giving us rays of sunshine, what about as you started out with rays of gloom and doom?

01:40:31.000 Well... I mean, if these guys are nuts, and the Iranians have all these cruise missiles, sunburn missiles, and even some French missiles, start blowing up ships... 1.00

01:40:40.000 I think the neocons know that the American people, when we feel like we're losing, will suddenly get involved with the war. 0.94

01:40:47.000 Then a convenient bomb goes off here in the U.S.

01:40:50.000 Whoever releases it, we know will do it.

01:40:52.000 And then we've got national conscription which is set up.

01:40:54.000 I think they're trying to get us into a fight where we start losing and then we gear up and they can be the kings of World War III.

01:41:01.000 That really sounds crazy, but I can't rule that out, Alex.

01:41:05.000 In other words, if you look at what these folks have already done with respect to Iraq, it's quite possible that that is their general plan.

01:41:13.000 It's quite possible that the President is sort of informed about these things after the fact, as he was about this port business, selling them to the UAE.

01:41:22.000 You know, the President really isn't in the mix here.

01:41:25.000 It's Rumsfeld and Cheney running the whole show.

01:41:28.000 And what's absent is the equivalent of Llewellyn Thompson.

01:41:32.000 Now, most people are too young to remember him, but he was the ambassador of Russia to the Soviet Union for a long period of time before President Kennedy came in.

01:41:41.000 And President Kennedy had such respect for him that he insisted that Thompson be present at all the deliberations of what to do when the Russians brought the missiles into Cuba.

01:41:51.000 And when everybody else was about to start a nuclear war, Curtis LeMay and company, Uh, you know what Llewellyn Thompson said?

01:41:59.000 I disagree, Mr. President.

01:42:01.000 I disagree.

01:42:02.000 I think when Shocks got himself into a bind, I have a suggestion as to how we can let him down softly.

01:42:08.000 And by the way, LeMay was now admitted to be a psychopath.

01:42:11.000 Well, that was clear even then. 0.61

01:42:13.000 Now he admits it.

01:42:14.000 But the point is that there's no Llewellyn Thompson around now.

01:42:18.000 If there is, he would not be let anywhere near the President.

01:42:22.000 And so what we have to do, and I think it's within our power, Alex, We have to descend upon our representatives and our senators and say, look, this is crazy.

01:42:30.000 This is really crazy.

01:42:32.000 We have to move before this terrible war gets expanded into Iran and make sure that our voice is heard.

01:42:38.000 We need to get out on the third anniversary of the starting of this first feckless war. 0.50

01:42:43.000 and make sure people realize that not all Americans, by far, not all Americans support this.

01:42:48.000 Well, you bring up the point about Bush.

01:42:49.000 He admittedly works out two hours a day, takes three-hour naps.

01:42:52.000 I feel like I have a responsibility, being on all these AM and FM stations and Internet and shortwave, to where I literally, it's about four or five hours a night, I know my whole family, my whole country, my whole future.

01:43:03.000 My destiny is about to be destroyed.

01:43:05.000 Personally, I know what we're facing.

01:43:08.000 Bush is about to start World War III and he's just hanging out and listening to music and riding his bicycle.

01:43:14.000 I know you're working long hours every day, not even getting paid for it now, Ray.

01:43:18.000 Not even pitching a book, I wish you were.

01:43:20.000 I'd be selling it.

01:43:21.000 Here you are working long hours because you feel a responsibility.

01:43:24.000 Then I find out these neocons, it's not just Bush that doesn't work.

01:43:27.000 They're out playing golf with their mistresses and in their $50 million houses. 1.00

01:43:31.000 They're just a bunch of nuts. 0.64

01:43:35.000 I mean, if I was about to start World War III, I'd be working 20 hours a day to make sure I did it right. 0.97

01:43:39.000 My point is, they're just, like you said, a bunch of perfumed, soft little political generals laughing and giggling while our troops are being blown to pieces.

01:43:48.000 Yeah, they've never known war.

01:43:50.000 They've never known actual service in the armed forces.

01:43:54.000 They only Rumsfeld served during peacetime in the Navy.

01:44:01.000 Most important, I think, Alex, is that they've never been held accountable.

01:44:05.000 They've always been bailed out by their daddies or their mommies.

01:44:09.000 They've never had to be responsible.

01:44:10.000 And so, yeah, what we need to do is exercise our rights while we still have them.

01:44:17.000 Get out there, exercise our First Amendment rights.

01:44:20.000 A protest against violations of our Fourth Amendment rights by eavesdropping?

01:44:24.000 Well, I agree with you, because Bush told his biographer in 1999 that if he was a war president, no one could question him domestically.

01:44:32.000 And I believe that America is a bigger target of these neocons than Iran and Syria and Iraq was.

01:44:39.000 I believe that more of this policy is about domestically being able to steal the pension funds and run their scams and war profiteer.

01:44:46.000 What do you say?

01:44:47.000 Well, the evidence is abundant that you're on the right track there.

01:44:52.000 You can see this Selfishness, this greed motive behind a whole bunch of things, including the port deal with the UAE.

01:45:02.000 Who's profiting from these things?

01:45:03.000 Well, we know that two administration officials, the head of over half their global operations for Europe and Latin America, he is going to be the head of the Maritime Administration.

01:45:14.000 So that's the story, but Limbaugh and all the rest of these phony conservatives are out saying it's a big, commie lie. 0.56

01:45:21.000 You know, one of the main aspects of fascism is when you have the leading corporations, the most powerful corporations, identified very closely with the government in charge.

01:45:33.000 And I'm afraid we have to be very, very careful now.

01:45:37.000 Uh, that we don't tread any farther down that path.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, I mean, even if UAE's okay and the port thing isn't a problem, I mean, let's just acquiesce and say that. 1.00

01:45:45.000 I don't agree with that, but let's just, for argument's sake, regardless, I looked at the federal laws.

01:45:49.000 They didn't do the 45-day review.

01:45:51.000 That's a federal, uh, serious federal crime.

01:45:53.000 And then at the same time, it's illegal, according to the documents I've seen, to have, uh, doing deals with people and then making their executives the heads of security.

01:46:03.000 Yeah, well, they've changed all that in this administration.

01:46:07.000 If they haven't changed the regulations, they've just ignored them, and as we all know, the President... As Bush says, he's above the law.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, and unless we challenge him on that, you know, we talked about the framers of our Constitution before, you know.

01:46:22.000 When they finished up these tireless months of working out this great, great text, and they had every reason to be really pleased, Somebody said, OK, well fine, let's break out the champagne.

01:46:34.000 Somebody spoke up and said, nope, not yet, not yet.

01:46:37.000 We left one thing out.

01:46:39.000 I said, what's that?

01:46:40.000 Well, human nature being such, it's inevitable that somewhere down the line, some president is going to think that he can act like a king.

01:46:50.000 And so we have to craft some language into this basic document now, not later, now, before the champagne.

01:46:58.000 To find an orderly process that can be followed when that happens so that you don't get an insurrection.

01:47:05.000 Well, our entire form of government is about separation of powers at the state and federal level and the three branches.

01:47:10.000 And Ray, we're about to go to some calls here in our final minutes.

01:47:14.000 Russell and Ken and others that are holding.

01:47:16.000 But that process is called impeachment and it was an orderly process left to us and that's what we should be following now.

01:47:24.000 And I have some hope that this will take take shape in the next couple of months.

01:47:28.000 Well, sorry for cutting you off there, I didn't know you were finishing up.

01:47:33.000 Yes, that is one of the remedies, is impeachment for this would-be dictator, but I want to get the quote from you for the headline here.

01:47:40.000 Bottom line, do you agree with the statement that Bush and his controllers are attempting to perfect a classical dictatorship here in the United States?

01:47:52.000 The evidence supports that view very much.

01:47:55.000 The difference is, Alex, that you and I can still talk like this, unless we continue to talk like this very loud and persuade some of our fellow Americans to do the same.

01:48:07.000 That will be the inevitable conclusion.

01:48:09.000 Well, Ray, I'm not a cowardly person, but I love my family, and I've never been like this.

01:48:15.000 I mean, I've had people, you know, four guys meet me in a parking lot and start pounding on me, saying, shut up before, and it didn't intimidate me.

01:48:22.000 But I'm waking up at 2 a.m.

01:48:23.000 in a cold sweat.

01:48:24.000 I mean, I feel something, not just the evidence, I feel it in my bones.

01:48:28.000 Do you feel that we are in just the greatest peril ever?

01:48:32.000 I've not known the like of it in my 43 years of watching things closely here in Washington.

01:48:37.000 But I have a basic trust in the American people.

01:48:40.000 I think that there is time for us all to wake up, exercise our rights, and reverse this business.

01:48:46.000 What we didn't mention so far is the most hopeful thing, and his name is Patrick Fitzgerald, and we're going to hear from him in the next week or two, and my hunch is that he's going to help us turn this thing around.

01:48:58.000 You think so.

01:48:59.000 Alright.

01:48:59.000 Callers, be patient.

01:49:00.000 We'll take a few of your calls.

01:49:01.000 Be very patient.

01:49:02.000 Coming up in this next segment.

01:49:04.000 So, Ray, you agree then that right now we are in imminent peril of going into a full-bore fascist police state?

01:49:14.000 Unless the Congress starts to wake up and act like the statesmen that our constitutional people who wrote our Constitution anticipated, Yeah, because the President said he can pay laws or disregard them unless the Congress and the Supreme Court call them to the Constitution.

01:49:32.000 Did you hear about that Republican memo about how they need another terror attack?

01:49:36.000 Are they're in trouble?

01:49:37.000 I've heard about some.

01:49:38.000 Is this something very recent?

01:49:40.000 Yes.

01:49:41.000 Hmm, I haven't heard about anything new.

01:49:43.000 Stay there, Raymond Governor.

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01:53:58.000 Russell in Florida, you're on the air.

01:54:00.000 Welcome.

01:54:01.000 Thank you.

01:54:02.000 Hi, Ray.

01:54:02.000 Alex, thank you for taking my call, and I want to thank both of you gentlemen.

01:54:06.000 Thank you for standing up to the truth and speaking out, because without men like you, I'm assured we'd already be in chains.

01:54:12.000 Alex, I have two questions for Ray, and I'd also like you to comment, and I'll ask them and listen off the air.

01:54:17.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:54:18.000 Ray, you've participated in many great documentaries, including some of Alex's, highlighting the neocon PNAC strategies surrounding the Iraq War and the false flag war on terror, but I'm still not 100% sure where you stand on 9-11.

01:54:29.000 And Alex kind of stole some of my thunder asking you a question before, but do you believe 9-11 was allowed to happen?

01:54:36.000 Or was it a high-level, compartmentalized, military-industrial complex Reichstag fire meant to bring about the inactivation of a New World Order?

01:54:44.000 Sure, that's one question.

01:54:45.000 What's the next?

01:54:45.000 The second question is, since we're fighting an information war, other than waking people up, Ray, what do you think our major solutions are to winning this thing?

01:54:54.000 Okay, thanks for the call, Ray.

01:54:56.000 On number one, 9/11, I have two minds on this.

01:55:04.000 One is that all these unanswered questions raise great suspicions in my mind, and every lie that Dick Cheney tells makes it very much easier for me to believe that Dick Cheney, for example, knew something about what was happening, and that accounts for his rather bizarre behavior that day.

01:55:26.000 On the other hand, as I look at all the people who would have to be clued in on this, The more extreme theories leave me unpersuaded.

01:55:38.000 Let me just throw this out there, Ray.

01:55:39.000 I mean, here's just one of 500 plus points we've made on this subject.

01:55:44.000 The Dean of the Defense Language School went public and said the government did it.

01:55:47.000 They spun it in the media that he meant it was their fault.

01:55:49.000 No, he said they did it.

01:55:50.000 And why?

01:55:51.000 I called him on the phone.

01:55:52.000 He said, I can't come on air.

01:55:53.000 His wife was yelling in the background. 0.94

01:55:54.000 Because he was forced to train some of the hijackers in spy training.

01:55:57.000 I mean, come on.

01:55:58.000 The hijackers were trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station.

01:56:01.000 Embassy heads are told to let them back in. 0.75

01:56:03.000 They're part of an anti-terror op.

01:56:04.000 I mean, they clearly were getting U.S.

01:56:06.000 government training, sir.

01:56:07.000 Well, we know that they got U.S.

01:56:09.000 government training way back when Afghanistan war was going hot and heavy.

01:56:16.000 What I'm suggesting is this, that there certainly is a cover-up.

01:56:20.000 There's no doubt about the cover-up.

01:56:21.000 The question is, what is being covered up?

01:56:25.000 And people who have worked in government even longer than I have, have told me, never underestimate the ability for government functionaries to be incompetent.

01:56:37.000 Now, I grant you that it requires a baffling amount of incompetence to have missed all these leads and then had the fighters stand down and everything else.

01:56:48.000 But against that, I just can't wrap myself around the notion that hundreds and hundreds of Americans would know that this was a put-up job.

01:56:58.000 When I say the government, I don't even mean the government.

01:57:00.000 I mean private, compartmentalized corporations being contracted.

01:57:04.000 Yeah, well, again, For me, maybe it's just because I haven't been able to look in it so closely myself, but I think the books that David Ray Griffin has written are the best ones out on this, and they leave all kinds of questions in my mind.

01:57:21.000 I'm just not prepared to say... I understand.

01:57:23.000 You're staying focused on the war and the fraud there, and not opening yourself up on getting into this deeper.

01:57:29.000 We'll be right back.

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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Welcome back into hour number three.

01:58:09.000 Hard to believe we're already here.

01:58:10.000 Ray McGovern still riding shotgun with us.

01:58:12.000 Veteran intelligence analyst.

01:58:15.000 Take a few final calls for him, continue with the calls throughout the broadcast after he leaves us.

01:58:18.000 Ray, what about admitted government-sponsored terror or false flag ops?

01:58:22.000 They now admit declassified, not just the LBJ tapes.

01:58:25.000 Gulf of Tonkin never happened, it was staged.

01:58:28.000 The CIA's own website admits they blew things up to blame it on Mozadek in 53.

01:58:34.000 So there's so many examples.

01:58:35.000 What about government false flags themselves?

01:58:38.000 What do you know about that?

01:58:40.000 Yeah, well, false flags are a little different from the two examples you had used.

01:58:45.000 The Mosaddegh overthrow and, uh, what was the other one? 0.97

01:58:50.000 Gulf of Tonkin.

01:58:50.000 Yeah, you called it the Gulf of Tonkin.

01:58:51.000 Well, those are variants of a false flag.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:53.000 They're blaming it.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, there's lots of evidence that the government in the past has used these things for its own purposes, overthrowing governments as it did in Iran in 1953.

01:59:09.000 Uh, and in Guatemala in 1954, the Gulf Tonkin was a little different.

01:59:14.000 There was an incident on the 2nd of August, there was none on the 4th, but LBJ wanted to use the quote, one on the 4th end quote to shove through that resolution.

01:59:26.000 This was kind of a spur-of-the-moment sort of thing, a target of opportunity.

01:59:29.000 I don't condone it, but he did deceive Congress and the war went on for seven more years.

01:59:34.000 Here's an example of that.

01:59:35.000 Let's take another call.

01:59:37.000 Ken in Texas, you're on the air.

01:59:39.000 Go ahead, Ken.

01:59:40.000 Hi, Ken.

01:59:41.000 Yes, sir.

01:59:42.000 Mr. Jones, Mr. McGovern, good afternoon.

01:59:44.000 I was actually calling, you know, I keep reading different headlines about this attack on the Ascaria Shrine in Samara.

01:59:54.000 And I can't help but think, you know, something that's supposed to be, you know, this amazingly holy site, you know, it just baffles me that... Israeli documents from 83 say they want Iraq broken up in three parts, they want civil war, the neocons want civil war so they can stay there longer, but I don't know if the Iranian president is right to say that some intelligence agency did this because these groups do kill each other.

02:00:17.000 Ray comments.

02:00:18.000 I hadn't heard that the Iranian had said that, but I was asking my Uh, veteran intelligence professionals for Sanity Friends last night via email.

02:00:28.000 Uh, the main question, which is Cui Bono, uh, who profits from this kind of thing.

02:00:34.000 And, uh, you don't have to be very conspiratorial or even, uh, paranoid to, to suggest that, uh, there are a whole bunch of likely suspects out there.

02:00:43.000 And not only, not only the Sunnis. 0.73

02:00:46.000 Uh, so, Okay, tell us who some of those suspects are.

02:00:50.000 Well, some have already been mentioned.

02:00:51.000 Our government?

02:00:52.000 Yeah, the ones that have a vested interest in prolonging this stuff.

02:00:58.000 You know, the British, the British officers were wrapped up, arrested in a car, riding around with Arab costumes on. 0.82

02:01:07.000 With bombs shooting policemen in Bosnia.

02:01:10.000 So this stuff goes on.

02:01:13.000 Who these guys were that blasted their way into that mosque to blow it up, you know, it's incredible. 1.00

02:01:19.000 The evidence is showing Iraqi National Guard.

02:01:23.000 Well, yeah.

02:01:24.000 The question is, at whose behest are they doing this?

02:01:27.000 But clearly, who has the biggest motive?

02:01:28.000 The neocons?

02:01:30.000 Well, the neocons, anybody who wants the U.S.

02:01:33.000 to stay, to be embroiled in Iraq, and that would include the Israelis. 0.86

02:01:39.000 So, we won't know, probably ever, but we certainly won't know.

02:01:44.000 Well, there's our newsmaker headline.

02:01:45.000 I agree with you.

02:01:46.000 I can't say who did it, but I always say a few days later the evidence comes out.

02:01:50.000 It's leaning towards, with the eyewitnesses and the motive, it's leaning towards a Western intelligence agency or a client that did that.

02:01:57.000 So there's your answer, Ken.

02:01:59.000 Ganto in Texas, quickly.

02:02:00.000 Well, actually, we're out of time.

02:02:02.000 Got to let Ray McGovern go.

02:02:03.000 Ray, I really appreciate you spending time with us.

02:02:06.000 Do you want to continue taking calls, or do you need to go?

02:02:09.000 No, I need to go now, but I appreciate being with you here, and good luck to you.

02:02:15.000 Well, thank you for spending time with us.

02:02:18.000 Will you join us on a routine basis?

02:02:20.000 Sure.

02:02:21.000 Well, give us that Veterans for Sanity group.

02:02:25.000 Well, it's Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, VIPS, and you can Google us, or you can find most of our writings on Truthout.com.

02:02:36.000 2000.com?

02:02:36.000 Truthout.com.

02:02:38.000 Oh, excuse me.

02:02:40.000 Truthout.com.

02:02:41.000 Right.

02:02:41.000 Mr. McGovern, thank you.

02:02:42.000 You're most welcome, Alex.

02:02:43.000 Take care.

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02:05:53.000 Well, here's a headline from the Village Voice of all places.

02:05:56.000 Ports.

02:05:57.000 All about a dealer named Balt.

02:05:59.000 A Russian arms merchant funnels money, guns, and dope through the United Arab Emirates.

02:06:03.000 Ha! 0.89

02:06:04.000 Just gets worse and worse.

02:06:05.000 All these Bush administration officials openly getting billions from the UAE, from this very company.

02:06:10.000 One of their top executives.

02:06:12.000 He's in the top two.

02:06:13.000 Some say he's their top executive.

02:06:15.000 He's the head of Europe and And Latin American operations for these ports will run all of our ports and the security on them.

02:06:21.000 So we hear Limbaugh going, they won't run the security, they'll just control the port.

02:06:24.000 Yeah, but one of their executives will then run all the security. 0.93

02:06:29.000 You've got to love the spin.

02:06:30.000 Listen, when the communist Chinese were getting the Panama Canal in Long Beach, I got on a plane and flew out to California to get the video of it. 0.91

02:06:38.000 Okay, I was against Bill Clinton, and I'm against George Bush today.

02:06:42.000 But of course, these neocon bootlicker listeners who love Limbaugh and all these phony conservatives, I mean, what's your major malfunction?

02:06:49.000 Can't you stand with America?

02:06:50.000 Can't you see what's happening?

02:06:52.000 For stations that don't carry the first little five-minute segment that we do, you really missed it.

02:06:57.000 A caller, and that was in my list of questions form that I'd written up this morning, but I didn't get around to it.

02:07:01.000 The caller brought up the mosque bombing, the shrine bombing, and McGovern said, well, looks like from the evidence, he said, I talked to a bunch of veteran analysts that are part of my group, It's leaning towards the U.S.

02:07:11.000 and Israel being behind it, and now we have this Iraqi guard, the witnesses saying, seeing government people there blowing it up.

02:07:19.000 I mean, this is unbelievable.

02:07:21.000 And so we'll get more into that, and it mirrors an article written by Kurt Nemo that's up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.

02:07:28.000 But right now, let's go to the calls.

02:07:30.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:07:30.000 Pat, Ganto, Bertrand, and others.

02:07:31.000 1-800-259-9231.

02:07:31.000 1-800-2599-231.

02:07:32.000 Pat, Ganto, Bertrand, and others, 1-800-2599-231.

02:07:38.000 Pat in Florida, thanks for holding.

02:07:39.000 Hi, Alex.

02:07:41.000 There's something I need to explain to everybody about something that helped you to understand what's going on.

02:07:46.000 This goes back to the Bible and Esau and Jacob.

02:07:50.000 We are Jacob and we're fighting Esau's children.

02:07:53.000 God said that we were to destroy Esau's children.

02:07:56.000 This is why GW thinks he can do what he wants because he is from the house of David and we're all cousins, we're all family.

02:08:04.000 And the thing is, is that we're all included together.

02:08:07.000 Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Germany, France, and all the Nordic countries.

02:08:10.000 And America.

02:08:10.000 We are all the House of Jacob.

02:08:13.000 And this is what we were told to do by God Himself to get rid of Esau's children. 0.97

02:08:17.000 They were a Satan. 0.96

02:08:18.000 Okay, Pat.

02:08:18.000 So you think the war's good?

02:08:20.000 You didn't kill all the Arabs? 1.00

02:08:22.000 Okay, now there's more.

02:08:23.000 Jim Gilmore, my cousin, is the one that did this thing with the He's in security.

02:08:29.000 He was down here.

02:08:30.000 He told me he was here.

02:08:31.000 I didn't know what he was doing with security, but he was here in Florida.

02:08:35.000 Anyway, found out last night he was behind all this.

02:08:37.000 Okay, Pat.

02:08:38.000 Pat, I don't know what you're talking about, so I'm not going to go there.

02:08:40.000 I don't want to just mention people's names.

02:08:43.000 Listen to me.

02:08:44.000 George Bush is not a Christian.

02:08:46.000 Liberals love to get up.

02:08:49.000 They're not even liberals.

02:08:50.000 They think they're liberals.

02:08:51.000 These terms mean nothing, but I use the terms that most people understand. 0.97

02:08:55.000 We've been given false terms, a false paradigm, a false mental map to follow, garbage in, garbage out.

02:09:01.000 All these Time Magazine and Newsweek covers of the Oval Office with light shining on it, and Bush thinks he's getting messages from Jesus and all this. 1.00

02:09:08.000 George Bush is a Nazi devil worshipper. 0.98

02:09:11.000 He's part of a Germanic death cult, admittedly. 0.99

02:09:14.000 They do all sorts of weird stuff in coffins. 0.99

02:09:15.000 I've been to Bohemian Grove, where they go The mainstream news admits they bring in gay porn stars to quote service them. 0.99

02:09:22.000 He prays at Shinto shrines and summons the demon in Japan. 0.98

02:09:25.000 He goes to Muslim mosques and prays to Allah.

02:09:27.000 He's in Catholic churches.

02:09:28.000 He's in Protestant churches.

02:09:29.000 He goes to synagogues and wears the little hat. 0.68

02:09:34.000 He says whatever you want to hear, but let me tell you what he does on vacation.

02:09:37.000 Let me tell you what he does in secret.

02:09:38.000 Let me tell you what he does in the Redwoods in a big gorge I've been to.

02:09:42.000 He gets down on his knees and he worships Lucifer.

02:09:45.000 That's what George Bush is doing.

02:09:46.000 He doesn't want to kill the Arabs because of how Abraham's wife, one of them was Jewish, and that's just Judah. 0.99

02:09:56.000 One of them was going to be an Israelite.

02:09:58.000 One of them was of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Joseph.

02:10:03.000 Then we go on past that and we look at what's happening with all these other groups and God says there will be enmity between you two and the son you had with his concubine over here.

02:10:16.000 George Bush does not think that he's supposed to kill all the Arabs because God told him to.

02:10:20.000 And the Bible doesn't say kill all the Arabs, at least the Bible I've read. 0.89

02:10:24.000 Okay?

02:10:25.000 And I love people that send me these emails going, Alex, you didn't know what John 3.16 is.

02:10:29.000 Like, three years ago.

02:10:30.000 I don't plan to be some giant Bible scholar, but I've sat through more Sunday School than most people out there.

02:10:36.000 Okay?

02:10:36.000 And I am sitting around watching TV.

02:10:38.000 I'll sit there and watch the preachers on television.

02:10:40.000 My wife reads the Bible for an hour every night, and I read it for about thirty minutes.

02:10:44.000 They pop in my ear all the time.

02:10:47.000 Hey, this caller just hung up.

02:10:48.000 Hey, this caller replaces him.

02:10:50.000 Hey, your guest is going to be ten minutes late.

02:10:52.000 Like today, they pop in my ear right as I go on air, at the thirty after, in the first hour, and while the caller's talking, he's going, Ray McGovern's going to be ten minutes late.

02:11:00.000 He got stuck in traffic.

02:11:01.000 He's on the cell phone getting to his house.

02:11:03.000 Now, that's about, you know, eight, nine seconds he's sitting there talking to me.

02:11:06.000 Okay?

02:11:07.000 Or he pops in my ear and says, this person just hung up.

02:11:09.000 And the lady said, well, John's 316.

02:11:11.000 Alex said, do you know that quote?

02:11:13.000 Well, they're talking to me.

02:11:14.000 Okay, and then, so I go, hey, will you repeat that?

02:11:17.000 Oh, you don't know it?

02:11:18.000 Well, just repeat it for me.

02:11:20.000 Oh, he doesn't know John 3.16!

02:11:21.000 It's all over!

02:11:23.000 Let me explain something to you.

02:11:24.000 Let's say I don't know John 3.16, which I do by heart.

02:11:29.000 Let's say I don't know that.

02:11:30.000 Does it matter?

02:11:30.000 The devil will speak scripture to you.

02:11:33.000 The devil comes as an angel of light speaking scripture.

02:11:36.000 That isn't the litmus test.

02:11:37.000 It's the fruits.

02:11:39.000 It's what you're doing.

02:11:42.000 Evil trees do not produce good fruit.

02:11:44.000 Look at the fruit we produce.

02:11:46.000 Look at all these other ninnying, backstabbing, COINTELPRO talk show hosts and people that are out there, which all they do is attack other patriots when the whole country is going down right now.

02:11:56.000 We have to get to the point where we start fighting the NWO.

02:12:00.000 Now, I've just gone off into a rant, but I got another email the other day.

02:12:03.000 You didn't know John 316?

02:12:05.000 Yes, I did, and it doesn't matter if I didn't, but for the sake of debate, okay, I didn't know it.

02:12:10.000 Okay?

02:12:11.000 Again, the people that attack me don't ever want the response.

02:12:14.000 They don't ever want the truth.

02:12:15.000 They don't ever want to know.

02:12:16.000 Okay?

02:12:17.000 They don't ever want to understand that.

02:12:19.000 They just simply want to sit there and try to attack me, and most of them aren't feds.

02:12:24.000 Some of them are.

02:12:25.000 The feds start the stories, And then other people snowball it.

02:12:29.000 And it doesn't matter if Alex Jones is a good or bad person.

02:12:32.000 I try to be as good as I can, but I'm a sinner.

02:12:34.000 I'm not perfect.

02:12:36.000 That doesn't matter.

02:12:37.000 What matters is what the New World Order is doing. 0.90

02:12:39.000 I always say this broadcast isn't about Alex Jones.

02:12:42.000 This broadcast isn't about what I ate for dinner last night.

02:12:46.000 This broadcast is about the information.

02:12:49.000 And that's why I always challenge the listeners.

02:12:51.000 Do not believe me.

02:12:54.000 Trust, but verify, as Ronald Reagan would say.

02:12:57.000 Go out and look at what I claim.

02:12:59.000 Go out and look at what I bring forward.

02:13:00.000 Go out and look at the guests we have on with wide-spectrum information.

02:13:04.000 Go out and research.

02:13:05.000 I mean, all the time, I had somebody the other day walk up and say, I heard you said this on the internet.

02:13:09.000 Of course, it was just totally made up.

02:13:10.000 I want you to respond.

02:13:12.000 And I said, no, I've already responded to that 200 times.

02:13:14.000 I'm not going to respond.

02:13:15.000 Well, why won't you?

02:13:16.000 Just get out of my face, OK?

02:13:17.000 I'm not going to sit there and respond to the same baloney.

02:13:20.000 If you can't, if somebody can't back up what they're saying, this is the incredible thing.

02:13:25.000 I mean, this is what, say, The Village Voice did to me a few days ago.

02:13:29.000 Alex Jones is crazy and he believes that the government was involved in the first World Trade Center attack.

02:13:35.000 He just claims it out of thin air.

02:13:36.000 No, it was on CBS Nightly News.

02:13:38.000 It was in the New York Times.

02:13:40.000 It's admitted.

02:13:40.000 I've had a bunch of FBI agents on admitting it on air.

02:13:43.000 They cooked the bomb.

02:13:44.000 They trained the driver.

02:13:45.000 They trained the guys how to park it. 0.99

02:13:47.000 They were both mentally retarded on welfare. 1.00

02:13:50.000 They actually went and found two poor, retarded Muslims And a blind sheep who didn't know what was going on, and would sit there and shoot his mouth off, and the government tried to blow up one of those towers, and thank God the people didn't park it up against the column like they were ordered to do! 1.00

02:14:05.000 Okay? 0.95

02:14:06.000 And then they just say I'm lying.

02:14:09.000 They just say in the village voice, I make this up.

02:14:13.000 I'm not going to sit here and respond to that.

02:14:15.000 People are like, well Alex, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it.

02:14:17.000 No!

02:14:18.000 If I did that here on this broadcast, if I sat here and talked about the people that attack me, the things that go on, we wouldn't have a radio show.

02:14:27.000 And I wish we had better Patriot Talk shows.

02:14:29.000 I wish we had better talk shows.

02:14:31.000 All these jealous people wonder why I'm so successful, why I can reach so many people despite all my problems.

02:14:36.000 I'm obnoxious, I'm overbearing, all of those things.

02:14:40.000 They still wonder, why do people listen to Alex Jones?

02:14:42.000 Why do people listen to him and not me?

02:14:44.000 Because when you go to my website and you go to this radio show, 98% of it is news and information.

02:14:50.000 Occasionally 2% will be this.

02:14:53.000 And I don't know why I'm even venting on this.

02:14:55.000 It's just that we all need to get focused.

02:14:57.000 I wish these other shows would become winners and start waking people up.

02:15:02.000 Okay?

02:15:03.000 I wish that other people out there would stop trying to pin everybody down on, okay, is it the Catholics?

02:15:08.000 Is it the Jews? 1.00

02:15:09.000 You need to say it's one group. 0.99

02:15:11.000 It's the blacks. 1.00

02:15:12.000 It's the whites. 1.00

02:15:12.000 It's the Mexicans. 1.00

02:15:13.000 It's the, you know, there's good people and there's evil people. 0.97

02:15:17.000 Okay?

02:15:17.000 And I don't like evil people.

02:15:18.000 I don't care if they're black or white or Jewish or German. 0.94

02:15:21.000 And I love good people.

02:15:23.000 And if good people will just get together, instead of all saying one group causes it all and one group is behind it, I've looked at the New World Order, folks.

02:15:31.000 It is a panacea.

02:15:34.000 It is a huge gallery of rogues who are in control of any major organization, any large organization, any old organization that's out there.

02:15:44.000 And until we shift our paradigms and start attacking the programs of the New World Order, and start striking at the root of their Luciferian philosophy, it's only going to get worse.

02:15:55.000 Boy, let's go ahead and talk to Ganto in Texas. 0.89

02:15:57.000 Ganto, go ahead.

02:15:59.000 Hey, it's Tonto.

02:16:00.000 How you doing, man? 0.99

02:16:01.000 You are crazy, Alex. 1.00

02:16:03.000 You know that. 0.99

02:16:04.000 And that's a strange perception I've gotten coming back from Austin, New Mexico.

02:16:09.000 They think you're crazy for speaking the truth.

02:16:11.000 I think that's a horrible ethic.

02:16:13.000 I don't know why South Austin's gotten kind of wussy.

02:16:16.000 I used to be a banker in the 70s, man.

02:16:18.000 And I touched on some of these Bohemian Grove people living in San Francisco and didn't even know what it was until I found out about you.

02:16:25.000 But I went out to New Mexico.

02:16:27.000 I heard you were dead and they took you out.

02:16:29.000 I'm glad you're alive.

02:16:30.000 I saw you over there at the Alamo during Serenity Show.

02:16:34.000 Oh, I know.

02:16:35.000 That's another one.

02:16:35.000 There's the weekly call that I've had a heart attack or I'm dead.

02:16:38.000 And I'll just say what Mark Twain said.

02:16:40.000 Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated.

02:16:43.000 Oh, they were.

02:16:43.000 They got passed around Central New Mexico for a while.

02:16:46.000 There were people crying tears because we all thought, well, it's all over.

02:16:49.000 And that seems to be a strange attitude.

02:16:51.000 How would they not go to my website or type my name into a search engine?

02:16:55.000 I didn't know. 1.00

02:16:55.000 I was an idiot. 1.00

02:16:56.000 I was trying to get away from the madness, you know? 1.00

02:16:58.000 And then I realized, well, Alex has gone too far.

02:17:00.000 There's another example.

02:17:01.000 People will always go off a rumor instead of fact.

02:17:04.000 Everybody wants to talk about imaginary concentration camps instead of concentration camps in the Houston Chronicle.

02:17:10.000 I fell for it.

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02:21:54.000 Thanks for taking my call and what you were saying earlier there.

02:21:54.000 Alex, it's a pleasure again.

02:21:56.000 deal more into the bombing of the shrine, the mosque.

02:21:59.000 Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst, saying evidence points towards the government, points towards Israel.

02:22:04.000 So there you go.

02:22:05.000 I mean, he's a real conservative, by the way.

02:22:09.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Bertrand in Canada, then Ron and Nevada and others.

02:22:12.000 Bertrand, go ahead.

02:22:13.000 Hi, Alex.

02:22:15.000 It's a pleasure again.

02:22:16.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:22:18.000 You bet.

02:22:18.000 And what you were saying earlier there, I listen to you because out of everybody in the media, you can listen to, you're the closest to the truth.

02:22:30.000 And you are a modern-day protestant like Martin Luther.

02:22:33.000 And that's why I listen to you.

02:22:35.000 But anyways, I have some very scary information here.

02:22:39.000 If you'd like to give me the time to share, I have three very important points to make.

02:22:44.000 First is that prophetically there are five cities of the United States They're destined for complete destruction.

02:22:54.000 9-11 was a fulfilled prophetic event.

02:22:58.000 It was stated and recorded in a book published in 1909.

02:23:02.000 The book was entitled Testimonies for the Church, Volume 9.

02:23:09.000 If you go to page 12, there's a word description of 9-11.

02:23:12.000 The five cities... I'd like to warn anybody that's living in these cities to make Make plans, pray and ask God for guidance to make your way out of these cities.

02:23:25.000 You're going to tell people the cities are going to be destroyed because somebody's analyzed the Bible.

02:23:29.000 No, no, no.

02:23:30.000 Sir, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm trying to say this.

02:23:33.000 Every week I get called.

02:23:35.000 I have personal friends who, Alex, you've got to cover Planet X.

02:23:38.000 It's going to kill us.

02:23:39.000 Five years later, it hasn't.

02:23:40.000 Or I know people who say, man, this is going to be nuked.

02:23:44.000 The Bible says next month. 0.76

02:23:45.000 And it doesn't happen.

02:23:46.000 So I think it's very dangerous to start... I mean, I'll agree with you.

02:23:49.000 I've read Revelation.

02:23:50.000 There's those passages where it talks about the big seaport city and the big towers falling and they're covered with the dust.

02:23:57.000 I mean, that's a lot closer than, say, Nostradamus.

02:24:00.000 And then there's all these fake Nostradamus quatrains they put out about 9-11.

02:24:03.000 And then here's the Bible that really says it.

02:24:06.000 But it's very dangerous, I think, with all these people who claim they know how to decode the Bible and what it says and what it's doing.

02:24:13.000 Yeah.

02:24:14.000 Are you still there?

02:24:14.000 Yes, I'm here, sir.

02:24:16.000 Well, this has got nothing to do with Nostradamus.

02:24:18.000 Nostradamus is... I agree with you, sir.

02:24:20.000 I think it's pure bull, but... Anyways, all I'd like to say is that the same person that wrote The Vision of 9-11 said that New York City, Washington, Chicago, Houston, and I believe Houston is close to you, Los Angeles are cities Where people of faith need to remove themselves. 0.99

02:24:39.000 All major metropolis of places of the world, people need to move and get out of the cities because when all this goes down, and this is another very important point I want to make with you, Alex.

02:24:50.000 You know, I believe in everything you say, and I believe that, you know... Sorry, I didn't like the point.

02:24:54.000 You don't have to agree with everything I said.

02:24:55.000 Go ahead.

02:24:56.000 And fighting is great, but you have to understand, prophetically, the New World Order We'll come to pass.

02:25:03.000 Okay, thank you for the call.

02:25:04.000 I gave you three minutes.

02:25:05.000 Sir, there are a million different interpretations of all of that, okay?

02:25:11.000 I have a duty to fight evil and corruption.

02:25:14.000 And the mainline Christian church in America says, no, just lay down, take it, do nothing.

02:25:18.000 And I disagree with that, and that is not biblical.

02:25:20.000 And I'm not saying that's what you're saying, but just please.

02:25:23.000 That's why this is not a religious show.

02:25:25.000 I don't hide it.

02:25:25.000 I mean, I'm a Christian.

02:25:26.000 I'm not ashamed of it.

02:25:27.000 I'm proud of it.

02:25:27.000 And we're a Christian nation.

02:25:28.000 That's what we're founded on.

02:25:29.000 I think it's great.

02:25:30.000 But at the same time, please don't tell me Christianity is this modern thing that's practiced in most of these churches. 0.98

02:25:36.000 It's sick. 0.93

02:25:37.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Ron in Nevada.

02:25:39.000 Ron, you're on the air.

02:25:40.000 Good afternoon, Alex.

02:25:42.000 Hello.

02:25:43.000 I'm gonna, as a whistleblower, I'm gonna use the Cheney shooting I had called you last week.

02:25:49.000 And, uh, when I found out, uh, the day I called you, uh, uh, Whittington came forward and they showed that, uh, he was shot on the right side.

02:26:00.000 And then, before that, previous to that, they were claiming that he was shot on the left side.

02:26:05.000 Yes.

02:26:06.000 It's a mistake by a police officer.

02:26:08.000 Same pattern, though.

02:26:09.000 Yeah, but if Cheney turned to his right and shot at a quail and then Whittington was to his right, how did he shoot Whittington on the right side?

02:26:22.000 Well, Whittington could have been turned to his right.

02:26:24.000 You can turn in the direction of someone that's shooting at you.

02:26:28.000 Yeah, but... What we know is they said he wasn't drinking, now he admits he was.

02:26:31.000 What we know is they shot him up closer than what he said.

02:26:33.000 What we know is they kept the police out for almost 14 hours, and we know a cover-up's been taking place.

02:26:39.000 Okay, so then, in other words, as a whistleblower, I'm going to come forward, I'm going to show that the news media used the official report, the shooting accident report.

02:26:49.000 Yes.

02:26:50.000 And they showed he was shot on the left side.

02:26:53.000 They said that was a mistake by the Parks and Wildlife, Gay Morton.

02:26:56.000 Yeah, but then why isn't the news media correcting what they used?

02:27:02.000 Even if it's not their fault.

02:27:04.000 Well, it's the same pattern, it was just on the other side.

02:27:07.000 And they have corrected it.

02:27:09.000 Maybe you didn't see them correct it.

02:27:11.000 Thank you for the call.

02:27:12.000 I appreciate it.

02:27:13.000 Alright, we're going to come back and cover some news and we'll take more of your calls.

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02:31:03.000 Thank you.

02:31:06.000 Boy, there is quite a stack of it here in front of me.

02:31:09.000 First off is an email.

02:31:10.000 I also have similar instant messages that have come in to me today.

02:31:13.000 What does the Bush or the Globalists have to gain besides oil for a civil war in Iraq?

02:31:18.000 Well, they get the oil by keeping the crisis going.

02:31:21.000 Again, their own PNAC documents say, Israeli documents say, they want to break it into three or four different provinces.

02:31:26.000 Now this is being floated on NPR and PBS and places of, oh, it was an unseen thing, but maybe it'll help.

02:31:32.000 We'll just break it into three or four different regions.

02:31:34.000 And it allows more weapons sales and more no-bid contracts to go on for decades, and to build permanent military bases in the area, and then to use it as a base to attack Iran and Syria. 0.62

02:31:44.000 That's the stated plan, so that's why They want to stay there.

02:31:48.000 Interesting note on Google by Paul Joseph Watson.

02:31:51.000 Big article up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.

02:31:54.000 And we got this right out of the mainstream news here.

02:31:59.000 He wrote an article about the particular story and even found some more details.

02:32:03.000 Google imposes a worldwide ban on China-critical websites, so they're now finding that you can't just ban the Chinese Google, the Chinese variant of their search engine.

02:32:14.000 They'll have to ban everything if the Chinese government orders them to. 0.93

02:32:18.000 Spacewar accuses company of selling out to boys from Beijing.

02:32:22.000 Spacewar is a mainstream news site we go to all the time.

02:32:25.000 It's kind of like Jane's Weapons Digest.

02:32:28.000 And for the first time in what some fear will signal a growing trend, Google Inc.

02:32:32.000 has banned and removed a mainstream news website from all its worldwide search engines.

02:32:36.000 We tried it today, can't get to it.

02:32:38.000 Seemingly due to the website's reports on Chinese geopolitical affairs and military technology.

02:32:43.000 Yeah, it's even more of a leftward-leaning news site, I would say.

02:32:46.000 It's not even really critical of China.

02:32:49.000 They just don't like the fact they've got good intel.

02:32:51.000 Google came under fire last month for agreeing to install government search filters on its Chinese-based search engine.

02:32:57.000 The company that was founded on the motto, Don't Be Evil, claimed that some censorship was acceptable because in the long term the internet would be opened up to wider audiences and freedom of speech would expand.

02:33:06.000 The excuse today can be put to bed because Google has banned its users, and this is horrible news folks, we better start in Yahoo!

02:33:13.000 and do it too.

02:33:14.000 We're in trouble.

02:33:15.000 The U.S.

02:33:15.000 and the rest of the world from accessing the Space War website from its search engine.

02:33:19.000 I wonder if they'll ban us for reporting on this.

02:33:22.000 Space War is a reasonably tame website that focuses on geopolitical affairs and satellite military technology advancements.

02:33:32.000 It is based in Australia and carries articles from AFP, United Press International, and others.

02:33:37.000 In a statement posted on its website today, the president of the publisher of Space And this is horrible.

02:33:42.000 Google representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

02:33:45.000 If they don't repost this immediately, I'm going to call for everyone to immediately start dumping their stock.

02:33:50.000 for the ban by Google are unclear.

02:33:51.000 The company did not communicate with Space.tv Corporation, the owner of Spacewar.com, prior to its action.

02:33:58.000 And this is horrible.

02:34:01.000 Google representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

02:34:03.000 If they don't repost this immediately, I'm going to call for everyone to immediately start dumping their stock.

02:34:08.000 I mean, this is outrageous.

02:34:09.000 Google Inc.

02:34:11.000 's preferred method of banning a site is to delist its primary domain or URL from the Google search index.

02:34:17.000 Google also can reduce a site's page rank or eliminate it entirely as it has done to Spacewar.com.

02:34:24.000 They've gotten rid of it entirely.

02:34:26.000 That's why it's important in all the articles that are on PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, that you start your own little websites.

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02:34:32.000 And start just syndicating everything we do.

02:34:34.000 Just copy all our articles, put them up there.

02:34:36.000 You should do that for Space War now.

02:34:38.000 Google Inc., in the wake of pressure from Chinese government, has begun blocking access to various websites deemed unfriendly to the boys from Beijing.

02:34:44.000 At this stage, we have no evidence to suggest this is the reason for Google has banned SpaceWar.com.

02:34:49.000 The lack of any forewarning that Space War was operating in violation of Google's increasingly strict search engine compliance requirements, however, leads us to suspect the ban is politically motivated.

02:35:00.000 Very bad news.

02:35:02.000 Very, very bad news.

02:35:04.000 Because these are tools we're using.

02:35:06.000 I mean, I just... They're under massive... This is Internet, too.

02:35:10.000 It's already happening across the web, folks.

02:35:14.000 The globalists aren't just going to let us be effective.

02:35:16.000 Peace groups under watch.

02:35:19.000 Authorities keep tabs on non-violent Seattle activists and hunt for Al Qaeda.

02:35:22.000 Or hunt for themselves, huh?

02:35:24.000 And then it goes into how they are...

02:35:30.000 They are now trying to literally go out and harass people and go after them and spy on them.

02:35:36.000 It's the Seattle Post-Intelligence, sir.

02:35:38.000 It's just massive.

02:35:39.000 Dubai bid includes Vancouver.

02:35:41.000 That's right, it's not six ports in the U.S., it's eight.

02:35:43.000 Beaumont and Corpus Christi.

02:35:45.000 And then now we're learning it's massive ports in Canada.

02:35:48.000 And this is out of the Globe and Mail.

02:35:50.000 On the Vancouver waterfront, it's a debate conspicuous only in absence.

02:35:54.000 U.S.

02:35:54.000 politicians may be denouncing the sale of U.S.

02:35:56.000 ports facilities to a Middle Eastern firm, but Canadian officials are blase about the B.C.

02:36:00.000 end of the deal.

02:36:02.000 Get a grip, fellas, is Canadian senior Senator Colin Kennedy's message to the U.S.

02:36:07.000 counterparts.

02:36:10.000 Oh, isn't that nice?

02:36:11.000 O'Reilly agrees with the port sellout plan.

02:36:14.000 We've got his disgusting comments up on the website.

02:36:17.000 Rush Limbaugh agrees with it.

02:36:19.000 Doesn't mention how all these administration officials and one of the company's chief executives is going to be over all our port security, running the Maritime Administration.

02:36:30.000 They're just really good at that.

02:36:32.000 All these bleeding neocon listeners just love being lied to.

02:36:36.000 Again, I've had them approach me on the street, approach me in gun shops and say, Bush wasn't for the assault of his band.

02:36:41.000 He gave speeches for it, lobbied for it, but he didn't do it.

02:36:44.000 So you guys are just living in la-la land. 0.72

02:36:49.000 Listen to this.

02:36:49.000 You think it's just people in Austria like David Irving getting three years for his free speech, and whether you agree with him or disagree with him, it's his right.

02:36:58.000 Well, what about this?

02:36:58.000 German court convicts man for insulting Islam.

02:37:01.000 See?

02:37:01.000 A German court on Thursday convicted a businessman of insulting Islam by printing the word Koran on toilet paper and offering it to mosque.

02:37:09.000 The 61-year-old man identified only as Manfred Van H has been given one year jail sentence.

02:37:15.000 Suspended from five years?

02:37:16.000 Oh, in order to complete 300 hours community service, a direct court in western Germantown of Lundeshausen ruled.

02:37:23.000 There you have it.

02:37:23.000 That'll be here too as well.

02:37:25.000 You're not allowed to criticize foreign produce over there.

02:37:27.000 It's called xenophobic.

02:37:28.000 Don't even criticize... Oh, here's another one.

02:37:30.000 This is out of the Post-Gazette.

02:37:32.000 Children may not be getting enough fluoride.

02:37:34.000 Oh, I've been hearing the public service announcements.

02:37:37.000 Not enough stannous fluoride admitted to cause brain damage and bone fractures.

02:37:41.000 Nobel Prize winners have released that information.

02:37:44.000 Some dentists are concerned about the problem they haven't worried about for much in decades.

02:37:48.000 Whether children are getting enough fluoride.

02:37:51.000 What type of fluoride is that paper?

02:37:52.000 I'm not worried about calcium, but you don't put calcium fluoride in, do you?

02:37:56.000 That is good for the teethies.

02:37:57.000 The toothies.

02:37:58.000 Fluoride helps strengthen teeth and prevent tooth decay.

02:38:00.000 Mass fluoridating of miscible water supplies started in the 1940's has been called the most effective public health measure ever made to improve oral health.

02:38:07.000 But the growing popularity of bottled water has brought concerns about adequate fluoride levels.

02:38:12.000 Should there be fluoride supplements for our children?

02:38:14.000 I thought they were already getting it with their toothpaste, even if you say it's good.

02:38:17.000 And the head doctor, dentist up in Canada, who helped fluoridate water 10 years ago, has gone public and said he was totally wrong.

02:38:23.000 It's deadly poison.

02:38:24.000 He's seen all the studies.

02:38:26.000 Iraq vet accused of stabbing wife 71 times.

02:38:28.000 That's interesting.

02:38:30.000 Too bad to hear about them.

02:38:32.000 Philippines president declares state of emergency.

02:38:35.000 Another president declared an emergency.

02:38:39.000 Looking for it here in the stack.

02:38:40.000 What was it?

02:38:41.000 It was in... I forget the country.

02:38:43.000 It's one of those Asian countries.

02:38:45.000 And he gave the devil sign when he did it.

02:38:47.000 That's here in my stack.

02:38:48.000 Let me find it.

02:38:49.000 It'll pop in my head in a second, even if I don't find the article.

02:38:53.000 And here's another article about the ports.

02:38:54.000 Ports all about a dealer named Bout.

02:38:58.000 And this is out of the Village Voice.

02:39:03.000 A Russian arms merchant funnels money, guns, and dope to the United Arab Emirates.

02:39:07.000 There's also big articles about slavery of Arab children out of there, selling them to people.

02:39:12.000 No big deal, though.

02:39:13.000 Government loves you.

02:39:14.000 Everything's fine.

02:39:15.000 I think it's bad, but that's because I'm evil.

02:39:17.000 One of those radicals.

02:39:18.000 To hear the administration and supporters talk, you'd think the workers in New York ports are carefully vetted by the Waterfront Commission, the ports themselves protected by the ever-watchful Coast Guard and routinely surveilled by U.S.

02:39:30.000 Customs.

02:39:31.000 And then it gets into truth of the fact of how it's totally wide open.

02:39:34.000 There's all these drug dealers and the rest of it.

02:39:37.000 Speaking of Chinese ordering Google to ban mainstream news websites, not just off the Google search engine for China, but all of their search engines, including Google.com, well, this is the BBC!

02:39:49.000 Chinese slap ban on TV cartoons!

02:39:53.000 You know, they've got a 40 plus percent tariff on most of our goods.

02:39:57.000 And we've got almost no tariff on them, about a 2% on average with our goods.

02:40:01.000 And now they're banning all sorts of other things.

02:40:03.000 And they say because they don't want American cartoons over there.

02:40:06.000 It's a type of information tariff.

02:40:09.000 And so they're banning this certain type of U.S.

02:40:12.000 cartoon.

02:40:12.000 It says, cartoons that blend live-action actors with animation are to be banned from TV and China.

02:40:19.000 And so, uh, that's a lot of different types of films.

02:40:21.000 I guess an upcoming film that I'm in that is live action, I mean, it's really me on screen, but it's been rotoscoped to give it a dreamlike look.

02:40:28.000 I guess, uh, Scanner Darkly won't be here in there, I guess.

02:40:32.000 It says, shows as Teletubbies in the film Who Framed Roger Rabbit could be affected by the decision taken by the country's main TV and film regulator.

02:40:39.000 The move is aimed at promoting Chinese animators and apparently curbing the use of foreign cartoons.

02:40:45.000 China's state administration of radio, film and television said people who flout the ban will be punished.

02:40:51.000 And of course that will just force Americans to go have their animation done in China so it can then air there. 0.96

02:40:55.000 A billion, three hundred million people monopolizing, engaging in criminal monopoly And dictating everything we do, but that's okay, it's free market.

02:41:04.000 No, it's not.

02:41:05.000 Limits.

02:41:06.000 It has not yet said which shows will be directly affected, but described them as so-called cartoons that mainly feature real people and only occasionally have computer-generated elements.

02:41:14.000 The BB Show, and the reason I don't like this is that it's getting cheaper and cheaper to do this, and so a lot of even big U.S.

02:41:20.000 firms have been hiring out to South Korea and China to do this.

02:41:23.000 Like The Simpsons is made in South Korea. 0.93

02:41:26.000 The animation's done there.

02:41:28.000 The BBC show Teletubbies, which is known as Tin Yang Xin Ba Bo in China and broadcast to millions of children, is among many foreign children's programs shown in the country.

02:41:39.000 And it goes on.

02:41:40.000 So there's the total control, folks.

02:41:42.000 It ain't just... I said ain't on purpose, folks.

02:41:47.000 It ain't just about You know, quote, stopping the tyranny of the government.

02:41:52.000 It's about business.

02:41:53.000 And maybe they'll tell Google, hey, don't let these TV shows be offered online, which most major TV shows do.

02:42:00.000 And Google will just say, okay, worldwide ban on all these cartoons online.

02:42:05.000 You know, I don't watch a lot of TV, but I do have a video iPod.

02:42:08.000 I bought it because we're studying starting vodcasting.

02:42:11.000 We're going to start that very soon.

02:42:13.000 And when I go on the exercise bike, I watch season one and season two of Battlestar Galactica.

02:42:19.000 And I downloaded it, paid for it, it was like a dollar an episode, so eleven bucks for all the episodes of each season.

02:42:24.000 And I just sit there at the gym watching Battlestar Galactica.

02:42:29.000 And on a little teeny screen.

02:42:32.000 And again, this is where TV's all going.

02:42:35.000 Oh well, China, we don't like it. 1.00

02:42:37.000 We'll just order you to ban that. 1.00

02:42:40.000 See, this is the new freedom, ladies and gentlemen, where China dictates everything. 0.98

02:42:43.000 And the globalists have said, I've watched CFR meetings on C-SPAN where they've said, they are the golden child, they are the future, everything they want, that their people are slaves, they have stadium mass executions of citizens, they have mobile execution vans, they force abort babies, they drown six-month-old babies that people have in secret because of the one-child policy, they bash their brains out in front of the mother and sell the baby for body parts.

02:43:05.000 Our government, the globalists love them!

02:43:08.000 They are leaders after their own heart and they're going to run everything.

02:43:11.000 You're worried about UAE, brother?

02:43:13.000 You better be worried about the Chycobs. 1.00

02:43:15.000 Who literally treat their people like hamburger meat. 1.00

02:43:18.000 Like animals.

02:43:21.000 Oh, excuse me.

02:43:21.000 Okay.

02:43:22.000 UK troops will not destroy poppy fields.

02:43:24.000 They're just saying, no, we're going to leave the poppy growing in Afghanistan.

02:43:26.000 Homeland Security swoops in on libraries.

02:43:29.000 This has been out of the Washington Post.

02:43:31.000 Several other publications.

02:43:32.000 Two uniformed Homeland Security officers have created a bit of a stink after walking into a public library and telling computer users that in the interest of national security, they were not allowed to visit porn sites.

02:43:42.000 According to the Washington Post, the pair entered Little Falls branch of the Montgomery County Public Schools in Bethesda and called the attention and made their announcement.

02:43:50.000 They then went and looked at each person who was on their PC without a warrant, just walked up.

02:43:55.000 Hey, what are you doing?

02:43:56.000 They then looked at the records of what they were looking at and said, I see a porn site there and started shaking them down.

02:44:01.000 It then appears that Homeland Security officers encountered a force which was considerably more powerful than any character they may have been given by the President.

02:44:09.000 A librarian approached them and told them to be quiet.

02:44:12.000 The police were called and the men were asked to leave.

02:44:17.000 Homeland Security has moved to distance itself from the Paris action.

02:44:20.000 Folks, that's not true.

02:44:22.000 This is being done to set precedence.

02:44:24.000 They visit toy stores.

02:44:25.000 They arrest homeless people and charge them under the Patriot Act.

02:44:29.000 They arrest kids with an ounce of marijuana and charge them under the Patriot Act and say, you don't get to face your accusers or have a defense.

02:44:35.000 We're charging you with terrorism.

02:44:37.000 I have hundreds of these articles.

02:44:39.000 Every day I run into more of them.

02:44:42.000 I mean, listen, I don't support the porn, I don't support the topless bars, but Homeland Security rating a Las Vegas topless bar because the owner paid $4,000 to a county commissioner to get zoned for more parking spaces ain't terrorism!

02:44:56.000 It is not!

02:44:57.000 It never will be!

02:44:59.000 Homeland Security has said they are in infrastructure protection and they're going to run and federalize every police force in the country.

02:45:05.000 You're going to have CIA liaisons in every city.

02:45:07.000 It's already happening.

02:45:08.000 And they're going to run everything.

02:45:09.000 And they're going to be the commissariat.

02:45:11.000 And they're saying they're going to arrest us for our speech.

02:45:13.000 Two weeks ago in a congressional testimony, the chairman of the committee, I have the mainstream news article in the stack, said that people protesting the war are really Al Qaeda and that he wants to start arresting us.

02:45:24.000 You understand this is Nazi Germany?

02:45:26.000 You better not be worried about the men in the turbines.

02:45:28.000 They work for the same people wanting your free speech.

02:45:32.000 The same people giving the shycoms are ports. 1.00

02:45:36.000 Listen, do not buy anything made in China.

02:45:38.000 I know it's next to near impossible. 0.99

02:45:40.000 You don't need that junk. 0.84

02:45:41.000 Pay 20 bucks more for a DVD player.

02:45:44.000 Buy it from South Korea, Japan, Mexico.

02:45:46.000 I know there's nothing made in America.

02:45:47.000 Do not buy it from China.

02:45:49.000 In fact, I am just so... I'm sure I'm going to be blocked now on Google when I start this boycott of China. 0.64

02:45:55.000 We've got to stop buying from these people or we're going to kill our economy and kill this country and support a bunch of pig demons that are killing their own people. 1.00

02:46:03.000 I'm really getting mad now. 1.00

02:46:06.000 Oh, the stack just goes on and on.

02:46:08.000 The stack just goes on and on.

02:46:09.000 I don't even know what to... what even to do anymore.

02:46:12.000 Let's take a call.

02:46:14.000 Let's talk to Allie in Oklahoma. 0.98

02:46:17.000 Go ahead, Allie.

02:46:18.000 Hi, Alex.

02:46:19.000 Yes.

02:46:20.000 What you were just saying... Well, I'm going to go on to what I was going to comment on.

02:46:28.000 That woman who called saying the Bible ...orders Israel to kill the offspring of Esau, and that we are Israel, and Bush being of the House of David, and of course Prince Charles is too, we have the right to rule the rest of the world.

02:46:44.000 She called in the Power Hour this morning, spouting off the same rhetoric, and I'm glad that she cut her off.

02:46:50.000 What she is saying is a beast or monster race, and you should play that Spike Jonze record in honor of her today, before you go off the air, I think.

02:47:00.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I recognize what it was.

02:47:02.000 It was Christian identity.

02:47:04.000 And there is some truth to some of the tribes going into Europe and interbreeding with the Nordics. 0.98

02:47:12.000 There's a lot of truth to some of that story.

02:47:15.000 But the rest of the story, so much of it, isn't true.

02:47:19.000 I've actually studied the archaeology.

02:47:21.000 I've actually looked at it.

02:47:23.000 And there's a bunch of different variants to it.

02:47:29.000 But that's a whole other can of worms.

02:47:32.000 You know, I don't want to say she's a provocateur.

02:47:40.000 I don't know that.

02:47:40.000 Well, I was making that statement at the end.

02:47:42.000 I didn't say she was, necessarily.

02:47:45.000 Well, I'm not knocking you either.

02:47:45.000 You can say whatever you want.

02:47:46.000 It's free speech.

02:47:48.000 Anyway, what I was going to say about your earlier comments was, of course you know, nobody was killed at Tiananmen Square, and there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

02:48:02.000 Oh, yes.

02:48:03.000 Tiananmen Square, it's wonderful.

02:48:05.000 China's good. 0.96

02:48:06.000 We need to be friends with them.

02:48:07.000 Mm-hmm. 0.98

02:48:08.000 And as long as they say no one was killed, there's about probably 80% of the ignorant Americans that believe it. 0.98

02:48:16.000 Doesn't matter. 0.98

02:48:16.000 They machine-gunned masses. 0.98

02:48:18.000 Hundreds of people ran over them with tanks.

02:48:20.000 By the way, China's had massacres bigger than Tiananmen in the last two months, and it's a minor footnote.

02:48:25.000 Good to hear from you.

02:48:26.000 I appreciate your call.

02:48:27.000 Come back, talk to Gary and Jesse, and that's going to be it.

02:48:30.000 what it's got to do.

02:48:31.000 Our officers can learn from them.

02:48:32.000 Good to hear from you.

02:48:35.000 I appreciate your call.

02:48:36.000 Come back, talk to Gary and Jesse, and that's going to be, stay with us.

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02:53:21.000 A couple other stories I wanted to hit, but I don't have time to get to them.

02:53:24.000 One of them uh... is out of the CBC TV SWAT raid scares school kids and it says that they raided a house right next door to it with their armored vehicle and their machine guns and their black mask and it scared the children.

02:53:38.000 Now contrast that with in America they call it training and I have video of it.

02:53:43.000 The cops come in yelling, screaming, aiming guns.

02:53:45.000 Sometimes they shoot kids in the face.

02:53:46.000 Happened in Detroit.

02:53:47.000 Killed cop of the year in Fort Worth.

02:53:49.000 I mean, all the time, they scream, they yell, shoving elementary kids around, they cry, they have nightmares, and it's just, well, it's the training.

02:53:56.000 Yeah, federally paid for to traumatize the children.

02:53:58.000 This is the same as Soviet re-education, and the cops are like, no, that ain't doin' that, we're doin' this in case there's another Columbiner. 0.51

02:54:07.000 And Columbine, by the way, was another black op, guaranteed. 1.00

02:54:10.000 Can prove it in hours of documentation.

02:54:13.000 We've done whole shows on it.

02:54:14.000 Total false flag, total black world op. 0.81

02:54:17.000 Totally. 0.99

02:54:18.000 And it's just sick.

02:54:19.000 Pointing machine guns.

02:54:20.000 Get down on the floor! 0.87

02:54:23.000 Little ten-year-olds, folks.

02:54:25.000 Nine-year-olds crying, begging.

02:54:27.000 Or they go in the middle schools of police dogs, biting and ripping their clothes.

02:54:31.000 In quote, drug raids.

02:54:32.000 Everybody lines up.

02:54:33.000 They search everyone.

02:54:34.000 It's a lot down in the prison.

02:54:35.000 You're just learning how to be a prisoner.

02:54:37.000 Alright, let's go ahead and talk to Gary in Virginia, then Jesse in Dallas.

02:54:41.000 Go ahead, Gary.

02:54:42.000 Hey Alex, you there?

02:54:43.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:44.000 How you doing today?

02:54:46.000 Doing a radio show, Commander.

02:54:49.000 Good, good.

02:54:49.000 Hey, I'm down here in the Virginia beach area, Virginia, and I picked you up on ManCal, and I'm really glad you got on that show, because I think a lot of people like myself who have never heard of your site now have.

02:55:02.000 But it's interesting.

02:55:04.000 I started listening to you, buddy, off and on about a year ago on the internet.

02:55:07.000 And I picked up a paper today, and I'm reading, I just want to pass this on to you.

02:55:11.000 Very, in like section three of the Virginian Pilot down here, There's an announcement that 2,200 Marines are going to be conducting an urban combat training exercise.

02:55:23.000 They're doing them from Tennessee to Texas, from Alabama to Virginia.

02:55:27.000 Right now it's going to go on Arkansas, and they train to take over your cities, and it's to condition you.

02:55:33.000 And the quote in here, there's a quote from the colonel that says, we're hoping to be as transparent as possible.

02:55:42.000 Yeah, they'll be in plain clothes too, bro.

02:55:45.000 Along with their uniform.

02:55:47.000 And another local thing down here, 30 miles south of where we're at, you ever heard of Blackwater?

02:55:51.000 Yes.

02:55:53.000 They just had a big fight down there with the city because they want to grow.

02:55:58.000 And of course, Blackwater won because it's business and money.

02:56:01.000 Yeah, it's the merch.

02:56:02.000 Call me back tomorrow.

02:56:03.000 You're a great caller.

02:56:04.000 30 seconds.

02:56:04.000 Jesse in Dallas.

02:56:05.000 Take us out of here.

02:56:06.000 Jesse, hit it.

02:56:07.000 Yeah, dude.

02:56:08.000 Just wanted to say you're doing a great job.

02:56:10.000 You know, I just got hit for the show and I wanted to get your opinion on it.

02:56:14.000 I got a 10-year-old son and he lives down there close to Austin.

02:56:17.000 And I hip him to all the stuff.

02:56:18.000 You know, I let him know what's going on at the school just to let us know.

02:56:21.000 Good job.

02:56:22.000 Call me back tomorrow.

02:56:22.000 We're out of time.

02:56:23.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - February 24, 2006

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