Alex Jones Show - 20060529_Mon_Alex

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00:00:10.000 You want answers?

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:28.000 It is Memorial Day.

00:00:30.000 The 29th day of May 2006.

00:00:34.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

00:00:37.000 We're going to have open phones throughout the broadcast, and Ray McGovern, senior-level CIA analyst for Reagan and former President Bush, will be joining us on this Memorial Day.

00:00:52.000 I hope to discuss What our troops have supposedly fought and died for, that is the Bill of Rights and Constitution, home of the free, land of the brave, and how that's being dismantled.

00:01:03.000 So what does Memorial Day mean to you?

00:01:06.000 We are here, we're alive, because we know the New World Order is coming down on America like a ton of bricks, and the time is short before they launch the next level of their tyranny in this country and worldwide, and we need to fight them.

00:01:20.000 We need to stop them right now.

00:01:25.000 There was an evacuation of the Capitol office buildings.

00:01:33.000 Over 140 schools were locked down for four hours in D.C.

00:01:38.000 on Friday.

00:01:39.000 And this really is a martial law drill.

00:01:43.000 This is the third time that this has happened in the last few years at the Capitol, for the smallest thing.

00:01:51.000 And of course the Capitol is in a neighborhood where guns routinely go off.

00:01:55.000 I've been in D.C.

00:01:57.000 staying near the Capitol and heard automatic weapons fire or heard semi-automatic weapons fire and the police and the public when I looked out my hotel window were acting like it was no big deal.

00:02:11.000 And this whole thing is extremely, extremely suspicious, but I would almost hope that it was Bush ordering the Capitol Police at the drop of a hat to take over the Capitol and let them know who the boss is, compared to just the abject hysterical hysteria, the hand-wringing fear we saw.

00:02:36.000 And I did witness over the weekend some replays and it showed congressmen, maybe you saw this, you've got a tape of it, we really want it, congressmen sitting there trying to talk to the press, talk to news cameras and having military style police come over and tell them turn your cell phone off and move away from that camera. 0.98

00:02:58.000 Again, we're the boss, we work for the executive, we're going to tell you what to do, scum. 0.98

00:03:04.000 We're going to keep you safe. 1.00

00:03:05.000 We're going to protect you.

00:03:08.000 It's like the Chinese emperors, empresses. 0.83

00:03:11.000 They would put their feet in these little tight shoes that had basically a vise on the outside.

00:03:18.000 They'd screw them tighter and tighter.

00:03:20.000 They would have five, six, seven, eight inch long fingernails. 1.00

00:03:24.000 You go, what does this have to do with the Capitol being shut down?

00:03:31.000 You get guilds that grow up, societies, organizations that grow up around extreme power.

00:03:38.000 And in the name of serving their leaders, they tend to put them in gilded cages.

00:03:47.000 Kind of like Rapunzel up in the tall tower to keep her safe.

00:03:55.000 Is that the story of Rapunzel?

00:03:57.000 I don't remember.

00:03:58.000 The point is, is that the emperors of China, dynasty after dynasty, would actually fall, and then one of their servants would found the new dynasty.

00:04:07.000 Their feet were not wrapped so tight they couldn't walk.

00:04:10.000 They had short fingernails.

00:04:12.000 Oh, it's so stylish that you're an emperor!

00:04:14.000 We must feed you!

00:04:16.000 Because your fingernails are so long, the style is so cool.

00:04:21.000 And it's the same thing here.

00:04:22.000 Oh, there's a jackhammer.

00:04:24.000 We must lock the whole city down. 0.80

00:04:27.000 We must tell congressmen what to do and point guns at them.

00:04:30.000 Oh, we must have checkpoints on the highways of America.

00:04:36.000 We must search all your homes.

00:04:38.000 We must listen to all your conversations.

00:04:40.000 We must totally control you.

00:04:43.000 Yes, it's to keep you safe.

00:04:46.000 I'm just trying to keep you safe.

00:04:48.000 Like Grimer Wormwood in Lord of the Rings.

00:04:51.000 Oh, your highness.

00:04:52.000 Don't get too upset.

00:04:53.000 No.

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00:04:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:56.000 That's better.

00:04:56.000 Oh, there.

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00:08:34.000 Well, where to begin today?

00:08:38.000 A construction drill provides a martial law drill.

00:08:42.000 Capital shutdown highlights manic panic of post 9-11 mentality is the headline by Paul Joseph Watson today up on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:08:56.000 What's really going on here?

00:08:58.000 This is the third time in the last couple years that Just anything, any noise, any backfire, any type of problem in or around the Capitol complex of office buildings on Capitol Hill causes a lockdown of the Capitol and armed SWAT teams descend on the complex aiming their guns at congressmen, shoving people around stomping around everywhere.

00:09:25.000 They're controlled by the executive.

00:09:27.000 They locked down over a hundred and forty schools for four hours in the city of DC.

00:09:34.000 It has nothing to do with reality.

00:09:38.000 It's unbelievable, and we go back to the anthrax attacks, clearly launched by the executive branch, the White House on Cipro, three and a half weeks before the anthrax first shows up in Boca Raton, Florida at American Media, to the very photo editor who'd done big stories on his two drunken daughters falling down on top of each other, and every other Bush enemy basically gets an anthrax letter in the mail, and the Patriot Act,

00:10:04.000 Suddenly passes when three of the five office buildings are shut down, part of the Capitol shut down.

00:10:11.000 There are paramilitary police running around in black Darth Vader uniforms inside the Capitol.

00:10:20.000 Parts of the Capitol are shut down because of anthrax.

00:10:24.000 This is in October of 2001, and the USA Patriot Act passes.

00:10:29.000 On Friday, while all this hysteria is going on, the Intelligence Committee, and then one of the other committees that was about to confirm Mr. Hayden, Michael V. Hayden, General Hayden, head of the CIA, which they later did that day, was locked down with armed men in the chambers with machine guns.

00:10:51.000 With automatic weapons.

00:10:53.000 So this is the backdrop that we have.

00:10:55.000 Meanwhile, again, they locked down most of the schools, 140 plus schools, in the city.

00:11:02.000 Because a neocon congressman was in the parking garage and thought he heard gunfire.

00:11:08.000 It was, of course, a gas-powered jackhammer right outside the parking garage.

00:11:15.000 And then the hysteria began.

00:11:17.000 The mind control began, so some women Some federal workers saw a plainclothes police officer. 1.00

00:11:24.000 I mean, it's so easy to pick one out.

00:11:26.000 There with the white shirt and the khaki pants, with the sidearm and the holster.

00:11:32.000 Oh my gosh, a slave's got a gun. 1.00

00:11:34.000 They thought it was a normal slave, not a god, a police officer.

00:11:38.000 And so they totally freaked out, ran screaming.

00:11:41.000 And the same thing happened in New Orleans.

00:11:43.000 People would be shooting alligators.

00:11:47.000 In some cases, even sharks in the first few days got into some of the areas on the outside of the city.

00:11:53.000 People were shooting sharks.

00:11:55.000 People were shooting at looters coming into their houses.

00:11:58.000 You'd hear gunfire.

00:11:59.000 Police were shooting wild dogs that had rabies.

00:12:02.000 They were shooting alligators.

00:12:04.000 People would hear that.

00:12:05.000 Cops over the next hill would hear it.

00:12:07.000 They would freak out.

00:12:09.000 And then they would start just shooting in that direction.

00:12:13.000 Remember the military workers were going in to fix one of the dams and the police shot and killed, what, four of them?

00:12:23.000 That got swept under the rug real fast.

00:12:25.000 And so, oh my gosh, we've got to send in the FBI leading the U.S.

00:12:30.000 Army and National Guard for gun confiscation!

00:12:34.000 No food, no water.

00:12:35.000 In fact, emergency managers, one of them sat there and waited five days while his mother starved to death and died in a nursing home.

00:12:41.000 He was dutiful.

00:12:43.000 He followed orders and didn't save his mama.

00:12:45.000 They kept the thousands of firefighters and police on small boats with private citizens out of the city.

00:12:50.000 The military got to do what they do best here in America, take our guns, what they've trained for for so long.

00:12:55.000 So, we have this backdrop.

00:12:59.000 But on this Memorial Day, think of what the land of the free, home of the brave has turned into. 0.90

00:13:04.000 The land of the hysterical, cowardly lemmings. 0.98

00:13:07.000 That is what we're now turned into. 0.85

00:13:10.000 I mean, cars backfire in D.C., they lock down the Capitol.

00:13:14.000 A jackhammer goes off, they lock down the Capitol.

00:13:17.000 There's a shooting a mile away between two drug dealers, which has always happened in D.C., one of the highest crime rates in the country.

00:13:23.000 Total gun ban, of course you're going to have that. 0.95

00:13:26.000 They lock down the Capitol.

00:13:28.000 And routinely, you'll have a small plane off course.

00:13:33.000 An hour after it's even reported, it finally gets to the Capitol, they lock it down.

00:13:37.000 Any excuse to do this.

00:13:39.000 And listen, we've seen this hysteria before.

00:13:42.000 This is done on purpose, much of it.

00:13:44.000 Or they use real events, and then their policies, the default policy, causes even more hysteria.

00:13:53.000 So some of it's staged, some of it is just the hysteria that's come out of the past staged events.

00:13:57.000 We don't have to go around the country to fake nuclear spills and blowing up buses in Chicago or in Seattle a few years ago running drills and running them unannounced and then citizens see it and they panic and then they announce, oh, it's just a drill.

00:14:13.000 Austin, Texas, 2000.

00:14:16.000 Phone starts ringing.

00:14:17.000 Alex, turn on the news.

00:14:18.000 Seven o'clock at night.

00:14:19.000 I turn it on.

00:14:20.000 Huge nuclear spill.

00:14:21.000 Extremely radioactive.

00:14:23.000 Austin must be evacuated.

00:14:25.000 They're locking down I-35.

00:14:28.000 They're calling out the U.S.

00:14:29.000 Army.

00:14:30.000 Total standstills.

00:14:32.000 Panic.

00:14:32.000 Hysteria.

00:14:34.000 There were car wrecks all over the city.

00:14:36.000 People jumping in their cars, driving north.

00:14:39.000 Huge traffic jams.

00:14:41.000 And I'm stuck in traffic at midnight.

00:14:43.000 It took me hours and hours just to get up towards the nuclear spill.

00:14:49.000 So we go towards the nuclear spill and I tune in to local radio and they announce, oh this just in, it was just a drill.

00:14:57.000 It was just an army drill.

00:15:00.000 I go to Belton, Texas in 2000.

00:15:02.000 The mayor stands up.

00:15:03.000 I have video of this in Road to Tyranny.

00:15:05.000 The mayor stands up to the dais.

00:15:08.000 They call a press conference.

00:15:10.000 Now, they told the media quietly in a press release that it was going to be a drill.

00:15:15.000 In this case, they at least said it was going to be a drill.

00:15:18.000 But then when the mayor gets up, he announces, we've been hit by terrorists, we've got deaths.

00:15:23.000 It's serious!

00:15:24.000 The media the next day has headlines, Belton hit by a terrorist, and you read, in one case it was like ten paragraphs, and then it mentions it was a drill!

00:15:33.000 The average person reading this... Well let me, let me go back.

00:15:38.000 So he announces we've been hit by terrorists.

00:15:40.000 We go outside.

00:15:41.000 They've got the elementary and middle school students there.

00:15:46.000 They have a high school drama department there to lead it.

00:15:48.000 They put fake red syrup on them, fake arms blown off, fake intestines hanging out.

00:15:53.000 It's pretty gruesome.

00:15:55.000 Smoke machines inside.

00:15:57.000 Helicopters flying around, U.S.

00:15:59.000 Army Special Forces walks up to us and goes, what are you doing?

00:16:03.000 We don't like you videotaping us!

00:16:04.000 And I go, well then you can just get out of my face, boy!

00:16:08.000 You can see the video.

00:16:09.000 I just say, hey, we got a right to.

00:16:11.000 Hey, you're the guys videotaped us last time when they ran an illegal checkpoint.

00:16:16.000 And then later admitted it was a drill, but it wasn't a drill.

00:16:19.000 They pulled over real cars and real buses and searched them, in one case, for eight hours.

00:16:24.000 And it was a drill, but the Greyhound bus they pulled over, they never told them that.

00:16:28.000 So, a drill with real people!

00:16:30.000 But I digress.

00:16:32.000 The same troops come over.

00:16:34.000 All of a sudden, they blow up a car.

00:16:36.000 All of a sudden, everybody's standing there.

00:16:37.000 They don't tell anybody.

00:16:38.000 All of a sudden, this car catches on fire.

00:16:40.000 Fire starts shooting out.

00:16:42.000 They're at the local city hall, okay?

00:16:44.000 There's a car with fire shooting out of it, burning to the ground.

00:16:50.000 Helicopters, smoke, troops, Marines, Navy.

00:16:55.000 We've got it on video.

00:16:56.000 Robots with shotguns are driving around.

00:16:59.000 All of this is happening.

00:17:01.000 Weird guys in black uniforms who won't say who they are.

00:17:05.000 Black Suburbans. 0.99

00:17:06.000 Blue Suburbans.

00:17:07.000 All of this.

00:17:08.000 And see, people in town hadn't been told about this.

00:17:11.000 So we go over to the local HEB and people are going, there's some kind of terrorist here.

00:17:16.000 What's going on right here?

00:17:18.000 See, this is what this is all designed to do.

00:17:20.000 Then the next day in the Belton paper, Belton hit by terrorists, and people are reading this with fear, for a couple minutes you get to the end of the articles, like a half page of the front page, at the very bottom it says, oh, but it was all just a drill.

00:17:33.000 See, it's war of the world's hysteria.

00:17:35.000 They've had thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of these drills everywhere.

00:17:41.000 Fake nuclear spills, fake bio-attacks, and pretty soon Somebody hears a jackhammer, they say it may be gunfire.

00:17:50.000 Then some women staffers see a plainclothes cop, which anybody can tell what a plainclothes cop is, they freak out. 1.00

00:17:57.000 The SWAT teams freak out.

00:17:59.000 Now they've got two reports.

00:18:00.000 They're running around pointing guns at congressmen, telling congressmen, get out of here!

00:18:04.000 You're not allowed to be on TV!

00:18:06.000 Oh yes sir, Mr. Black Mask!

00:18:08.000 Yes sir, oh yes!

00:18:11.000 So this is how it works.

00:18:12.000 But listen, I'm not done.

00:18:13.000 In 2000, Months after the nuclear spill, downtown Austin shut down.

00:18:18.000 There's an evacuation.

00:18:19.000 Police officers opened the back of a car and passed out.

00:18:23.000 It's incredible.

00:18:25.000 They've got the Arab right now. 1.00

00:18:27.000 We pull up.

00:18:28.000 We get video.

00:18:29.000 It's an obvious Marine, Arab Marine, high and tight, shaking hands, laughing with the cops, looking around. 1.00

00:18:36.000 There's other plainclothes troops standing around.

00:18:40.000 They drive up to Mike up on the overpass, tell him to turn his camera off.

00:18:43.000 We put this on local TV.

00:18:43.000 I'll put this on a film.

00:18:45.000 All of this is going on, and then the psychosomatic mental problems begin.

00:18:51.000 Other office buildings begin to panic.

00:18:53.000 They've been hit with bioweapons too!

00:18:56.000 And then...

00:18:57.000 I run on TV.

00:18:59.000 Oh, I'm sorry, two days later it creates some more hysteria.

00:19:03.000 They have a stage deal with the DPS from a smell.

00:19:05.000 Turns out that was a drill, a test.

00:19:08.000 Hundreds have to go to the hospital.

00:19:09.000 Total hysteria.

00:19:10.000 I go out there, jump on live TV in front of the camera, announce it's all a staged event.

00:19:15.000 I call up the local affiliate.

00:19:16.000 I bluff them.

00:19:17.000 I go, I've got evidence this is a drill.

00:19:19.000 You better admit you're part of it.

00:19:21.000 They go on TV two hours later and admit it was a drill.

00:19:24.000 I mean, we are just defeating these people.

00:19:27.000 And boy, they stopped those things here in Austin because I'm not going to put up with it.

00:19:32.000 I'm not going to put up with you doing fake nuclear spills, fake bio-attacks.

00:19:36.000 Now they still do it in schools and terrify the little kids.

00:19:40.000 But they backed off on their public stuff and they got your kids captive doing it to them every month.

00:19:45.000 But all over the country, every day, I see probably ten articles about drills.

00:19:49.000 I mean, there have been thousands of these things.

00:19:51.000 And this is training you.

00:19:52.000 It's like Jim Jones with the Kool-Aid drills.

00:19:55.000 They're just drilling you to be slaves for martial law.

00:19:58.000 We'll talk to Thomas in Denmark when we get back.

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00:24:23.000 They've got the people of this country so on edge that they're ready to just run in hysteria into the arms of this Darth Vader-clad stormtroopers at the drop of a hat.

00:24:35.000 I mean, everybody knows what a jackhammer sounds like, and it does sound a little bit similar to an automatic rifle discharging, but at the same time, it just shows what this country's turned into.

00:24:48.000 Understand, I live in a city.

00:24:50.000 Where they have fake bio-attacks downtown.

00:24:53.000 And they shut down half the downtown.

00:24:55.000 I live in a city where they have fake nuclear spills on I-35 and Kyle, south of Austin.

00:24:59.000 I live in a town where they terrorize the children and drills at schools.

00:25:03.000 I live in a city, just north of me, where they blow up cars and tell everybody it's real.

00:25:08.000 This is America!

00:25:10.000 Okay?

00:25:11.000 I live in Central Texas, where the U.S.

00:25:12.000 Army, back in 1998, has checkpoints on the highway, pulling people out of buses.

00:25:18.000 Okay?

00:25:19.000 I mean, that's why we've been aware of this for a long time.

00:25:22.000 That's why I was talking about martial law and troops.

00:25:24.000 I mean, I live in Texas, where police chiefs throw Delta Force out for trying to bribe them, and Delta Force comes back and still covertly leases buildings, and then blows them up.

00:25:33.000 I live in Texas where I've got police on tape admitting foreign troops were with them.

00:25:37.000 Police chiefs admitting it.

00:25:40.000 Folks, we've had Czechoslovakian troops running around with buildings blowing up.

00:25:46.000 This is the kind of stuff we go through here.

00:25:49.000 This is what we live through.

00:25:51.000 And it's all psychological warfare testing.

00:25:54.000 I read a Declassified Army After Action Report.

00:25:58.000 Well, I'll get to it later.

00:25:59.000 I'll take your calls.

00:26:00.000 It doesn't matter.

00:26:00.000 About the Panamanian invasion in 89.

00:26:03.000 You know what they did for a solid year before that?

00:26:06.000 Exactly what they're doing here.

00:26:09.000 Oh, it doesn't matter.

00:26:10.000 We're in so much trouble, folks.

00:26:11.000 We're in so much... I mean, imagine Americans now hear a jackhammer and almost all the schools... It says 144.

00:26:18.000 Is that all the schools in D.C.?

00:26:20.000 I don't know.

00:26:21.000 It sounds like most of them or all of them.

00:26:24.000 144 schools locked down.

00:26:25.000 The Capitol locked down, and meanwhile, every time there's some key confirmation that's in trouble, this happens.

00:26:30.000 Every time some bill's in trouble, and then Hayden got approved right after all this happened to CIA Director.

00:26:37.000 Let's talk to Thomas, listening in Denmark.

00:26:40.000 Thomas, welcome.

00:26:41.000 Alex.

00:26:42.000 Yes, sir.

00:26:43.000 It's an honor.

00:26:45.000 I'm a first-time caller.

00:26:46.000 Well, welcome, sir.

00:26:47.000 Thank you.

00:26:48.000 You sound like an American living in Denmark.

00:26:50.000 I've been over there many times, and that's why I listen to your show.

00:26:55.000 I have many friends over there as well.

00:26:57.000 But they said you're calling from Denmark.

00:26:59.000 Are you in Denmark?

00:27:00.000 That's true, yeah.

00:27:00.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:27:01.000 Alright, let me tell you, there's a hundred percent media blackout concerning the corruption in America here and about the 9-1-1 truth movement and no one has any clue about this over here.

00:27:15.000 Let me tell you, we are sheep, okay?

00:27:18.000 And I have many friends over there and I think it's a disgrace.

00:27:22.000 I'm getting sick of it.

00:27:24.000 So, let me tell you... Well, I just got interviewed by national television from Denmark and that's going to be it.

00:27:31.000 Actually, that was my question as well, but let me tell you what we have done.

00:27:35.000 We're a group of guys that put together an information package.

00:27:39.000 We have four, no, wait a minute, two movies and two lectures and we made a movie ourselves and I've been sitting here putting subtitles on this crap and I'm going to send it out to 100 celebrities here Including all the parties in our parliament and the military intelligence.

00:27:57.000 And also anyone if you want one.

00:27:59.000 But I think it's going to be effective, hopefully, and that's our plan.

00:28:07.000 Well, good job.

00:28:07.000 It's people like you that are going to defeat this new world order.

00:28:10.000 But let me ask you this, Thomas.

00:28:11.000 What do you think of the Capitol and D.C.

00:28:14.000 lockdown because of a jackhammer Friday?

00:28:18.000 That's insane.

00:28:19.000 But it doesn't surprise me, and nothing surprises me any more so.

00:28:25.000 But that's what we're doing, and I would recommend people in other countries doing this as well, because 9-1-1 affects everyone.

00:28:32.000 I mean, you can see it in our legislation today, right?

00:28:36.000 And it's everywhere.

00:28:38.000 Worldwide, they're using 9-1-1 as a pretext to set up a police state.

00:28:43.000 Exactly.

00:28:43.000 And like you said, around the time that Charlie Sheen came out, you had a TV crew in your studio.

00:28:49.000 And I was going to ask you, which TV station was that?

00:28:52.000 Yeah, I know it's the government.

00:28:54.000 I know it's the big national TV government run, government funded.

00:28:58.000 I forget, sir.

00:28:59.000 I know it's supposedly the biggest in Denmark.

00:29:03.000 List some names and maybe it'll pop in my head.

00:29:05.000 DR?

00:29:05.000 Yeah, I think that's it.

00:29:07.000 Alright.

00:29:09.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 Well, we have heard nothing about that.

00:29:11.000 Also, I'm sad to hear about the Dylan Avery lawsuit or whatever.

00:29:16.000 Well, see, that's how these rumors work.

00:29:18.000 There is no lawsuit.

00:29:20.000 The French brothers don't like it that he's using their footage of the firefighters talking about bombs in the building and it's clear, fair use and it's all threats. 0.99

00:29:31.000 So I appreciate your call.

00:29:32.000 I appreciate your call.

00:29:34.000 That's how this works.

00:29:35.000 Somebody sends him a letter and then by the time it's done with it, it's Martians have attacked Dillon Avery. 0.97

00:29:41.000 Alright, we'll be right back ladies and gentlemen with more of your phone calls on the other side of this quick break.

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00:33:07.000 Let's continue with your phone calls.

00:33:19.000 Get some more of those out of the way.

00:33:22.000 And then, speaking of bioterror drills, here's a report here.

00:33:27.000 Bioterrorism drill on Thursday.

00:33:31.000 In order to practice responding to a public health disaster, volunteers are needed to act as patients in a mock bioterror drill being held by the Williamson County Health Department.

00:33:40.000 Following an orientation, volunteer patients will wait in lines, receive mock medical screening, Review of fake patient forms and go through a simulated dispensing station.

00:33:50.000 No medical procedures will be performed and no actual medication will be dispensed.

00:33:54.000 The drill will be held on June 1st from 830 a.m.

00:33:57.000 to 12 noon.

00:33:58.000 If interested in participating, please respond for location.

00:34:01.000 And this is in or around Georgetown, Texas.

00:34:04.000 It's not okay to contact this poster.

00:34:06.000 This is out of Craigslist.

00:34:08.000 And I mean, this is just classic.

00:34:11.000 It's just everywhere.

00:34:11.000 It's just ongoing.

00:34:12.000 This is right here in Central Texas.

00:34:15.000 Another report here out of the Daily Mail.

00:34:17.000 Babies aborted for not being perfect in the UK.

00:34:20.000 Bush bans protests at military funerals.

00:34:23.000 On and on and on.

00:34:26.000 The gracious leader, he decides what to ban.

00:34:29.000 Um, but it's free speech we don't like, so it's okay.

00:34:33.000 But right now, let's go to John in Texas.

00:34:35.000 John, go ahead.

00:34:36.000 Hi, Alex.

00:34:39.000 Hello, sir.

00:34:40.000 You know, Alex, about a week ago, I was reading an editorial in a paper here in Houston.

00:34:47.000 And it was a guy that lost a daughter in the Lockerbie, Scotland bombing.

00:34:50.000 And he was condemning Bush for recognizing Muammar Gaddafi and pretty much forgiving him for his past transgressions, anyway.

00:34:57.000 But as I was reading that, I was thinking about Edwin Wilson.

00:35:00.000 Do you ever remember Edwin Wilson?

00:35:02.000 I do vaguely.

00:35:03.000 Why don't you reflect?

00:35:04.000 He got caught here in Houston shipping C-4 to Muammar Gaddafi in the early 80s.

00:35:09.000 He insisted he was doing it for the CIA.

00:35:11.000 The government said he was a rogue agent.

00:35:14.000 And he went to trial and they sentenced him like life in prison.

00:35:17.000 But about a year ago, his lawyer uncovered the fact that he really was working for the CIA and they let him out of prison and pretty much, they totally exonerated him.

00:35:24.000 That's right, I remember that.

00:35:26.000 But I was sitting there thinking, I says, well why wasn't anybody investigating?

00:35:30.000 What was the CIA shipping C4 to Muammar Gaddafi, a terrorist?

00:35:35.000 Well, I mean, it's part of the public record that MI6 hired Al Qaeda.

00:35:40.000 In the late 90s.

00:35:42.000 They are intelligence.

00:35:44.000 They are working for the globalists.

00:35:45.000 They were founded by the globalists.

00:35:48.000 But nobody, I mean they totally exonerate, let them out of prison, but nobody in the Congress or anything says, hey, what would the CIA ship a C4 to a terrorist nation for, you know?

00:35:55.000 Well, what's really scary is whenever a CIA officer agent gets caught following orders, they'll put them in prison.

00:36:03.000 Just to deny it.

00:36:04.000 I mean, people working for this government should remember that.

00:36:08.000 I got one more question I want to ask you, Alex.

00:36:11.000 I got news accounts that the Mexican Army was sending troops in here to help during Hurricane Katrina, but I never heard any news reports that they went back home.

00:36:18.000 Where'd they go?

00:36:19.000 No, we never heard those.

00:36:20.000 They were in San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans.

00:36:24.000 They were in areas of Mississippi, and I never heard about them going home.

00:36:28.000 Sir, we have the Los Zetas, who are current Mexican military, they're not former like the news says, running around killing people right here in Texas.

00:36:35.000 And back of the newspaper, Well, that's all I got.

00:36:39.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

00:36:40.000 Thank you, John.

00:36:40.000 I'm glad you raised that point.

00:36:42.000 There have been so many cases of our government defunding Al-Qaeda in 1998-99 to attack the Serbs.

00:36:52.000 That's part of the record.

00:36:53.000 It's admitted over and over again.

00:36:55.000 Al-Qaeda does this, Al-Qaeda does that for our governments, but oh, our government's not involved with them. 0.56

00:37:02.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Mike.

00:37:04.000 Mike, where are you calling us from?

00:37:06.000 I'm calling from Rockville, Maryland.

00:37:08.000 Welcome.

00:37:09.000 Thank you.

00:37:10.000 Thank you for all that you do.

00:37:11.000 It wasn't for you and people like you.

00:37:13.000 I'd just be one of the four hapless sheeple walking around, scratching his head, wondering what was going on. 0.87

00:37:18.000 And we have a new DC911 Truth Movement that's in the beginning stages.

00:37:26.000 May I plug our website?

00:37:27.000 Sure, go ahead, sir.

00:37:28.000 Okay, it's dc911truth.org and I want to beseech people to come out of the shadows, all the patriots and Don't be afraid and help spread the word.

00:37:39.000 Amina, one of my fellow members, were handing out flyers accusing the government of being complicit in 9-11 in downtown Bethesda, Maryland at a movie theater where they were showing Flight 93.

00:37:51.000 We must have handed out two or three hundred of them.

00:37:54.000 So we're showing films.

00:37:55.000 We showed your film, the one about 9-1-1, the rise of the police state.

00:37:59.000 We've shown Loose Chains.

00:38:00.000 We've shown Muhammad Ata's Flying Circus. 0.91

00:38:03.000 So we're going through a teething process right now.

00:38:07.000 Trying to get organized.

00:38:08.000 Trying to find out where we want to go.

00:38:10.000 But this is dc911truths.org.

00:38:12.000 I have an amusing story I'd like to tell you.

00:38:14.000 It won't take too long.

00:38:16.000 I was at a restaurant, and I tried to make it a point to tell at least two people every day about 9-1-1.

00:38:21.000 I tried not to be too obnoxious, and I don't, you know, I try to be methodical about it.

00:38:26.000 So I was sitting at the lunch counter, and this woman a couple seats away from me said, yeah, you know, 9-1-1 was an inside job. 0.70

00:38:33.000 I was reading Wester Tarpley's book while I was waiting for my brunch, 9-1-1 Synthetic Terror, which, by the way, he's a member of our group, by the way.

00:38:40.000 Nice guy.

00:38:42.000 I'm the only paleo-conservative there, so we don't exactly agree on everything.

00:38:46.000 But at any rate, she asked me, what job do I do?

00:38:48.000 I said, well, I work for an auto parts place.

00:38:50.000 I drive a van.

00:38:50.000 I said, what do you do?

00:38:52.000 She says, I work for Homeland Security.

00:38:53.000 I said, oh my God, this is an opportunity of a lifetime.

00:38:57.000 I told her about Builder No.

00:38:58.000 7.

00:38:59.000 I told her about the 19 supposed hijackers.

00:39:02.000 Some of them have proven to be alive.

00:39:06.000 All the facts, I just rattle them off like a machine gun.

00:39:10.000 And she couldn't refute anything I said.

00:39:13.000 She was just powerless.

00:39:14.000 She tried to deny everything.

00:39:16.000 She's like a scientist or something like that.

00:39:18.000 But the way I look at it, if I get on somebody's you know what list, so be it.

00:39:26.000 I'm going to.

00:39:28.000 If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging.

00:39:30.000 I'm not going to be afraid.

00:39:32.000 I'm not going to live in the shadows.

00:39:34.000 That's just the way I am.

00:39:36.000 I'm like a bird dog with his instinct for hunting birds.

00:39:39.000 I just feel compelled.

00:39:41.000 I'm the same way.

00:39:43.000 I mean, there's not even a question of fear. 0.88

00:39:45.000 These people are criminals.

00:39:47.000 They must be stood up to. 0.61

00:39:48.000 It's so disgusting to see how many people know what's going on but are afraid to stand up and speak out.

00:39:54.000 If everybody that knew the truth would stand up, get involved, we have over half the country now in major polls who don't just believe that the government was involved or might have known what happened and let it happen but carried it out.

00:40:06.000 We are now beginning to win this fight.

00:40:08.000 They're on the defensive.

00:40:09.000 That's why they're attacking us and attacking others and attacking Bill and Avery.

00:40:13.000 And that's good news.

00:40:15.000 When you're over the target, you're going to get flack.

00:40:17.000 Thanks for the call.

00:40:18.000 I really appreciate that call, Mike.

00:40:20.000 Good to hear you're taking action there in your area.

00:40:23.000 Eileen in Mass.

00:40:25.000 Welcome.

00:40:25.000 You're on the air.

00:40:26.000 Welcome to you.

00:40:27.000 I'm telling you, I don't know what we'd do without you, Alex.

00:40:32.000 I'd like to discuss this.

00:40:36.000 Rayburn building incident?

00:40:38.000 Yes, the hysterical evacuation here in the land of the cowards, home of the slaves, where a jackhammer goes off so you lock all the schools down and you have total hysteria and then troops run up to, and they had paramilitary police there, running up to congressmen saying don't talk to that news camera.

00:40:59.000 Well, I have a different take on it, I think.

00:41:03.000 You see, these people have sold out their country And I think that any kind of noise that would remind them of a gun, whether it does or not, would scare them witless.

00:41:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:17.000 Yeah, the wicked flee when none pursue.

00:41:20.000 Exactly. 0.95

00:41:20.000 And I think that's just another indication of how witless they are to begin with. 0.95

00:41:27.000 I've been writing senators, I've been writing congressmen, I am a member of your PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:41:39.000 I'm telling you, I've found out more information from you and your website than I have in the last three years anywhere else.

00:41:48.000 And I just, God bless you, Alex!

00:41:54.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:41:55.000 Anything else on your mind?

00:41:56.000 No, I just, is there any way?

00:41:59.000 I mean, I know that there are certain ways, but What can we do to get these people out of there? 0.98

00:42:06.000 They're corrupt! 0.74

00:42:09.000 Well, what you've got is, we're basically like a bull, or a buck and bronco horse, and they're like a cowboy on our back. 0.97

00:42:17.000 And believe me, they've heard all your phone calls, they've read all your letters, they know that everybody hates them, they know that more and more people are getting wise to them.

00:42:26.000 That's why they're setting this police state up. 0.95

00:42:28.000 They know that we know.

00:42:30.000 It's like somebody who you invited into your house for the weekend, And suddenly it's a year later, and they've got you moved out of the master bedroom, sleeping on the couch, and they're telling you to go out and get them a pizza, and you finally just go, you know, I'm sick of you!

00:42:45.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:42:46.000 And they're like, no, I'm not going to get out of here! 0.81

00:42:47.000 I'll beat you up! 0.93

00:42:50.000 I'm here taking care of you! 0.95

00:42:52.000 I'm here for your best interests!

00:42:53.000 No, no, no, no!

00:42:55.000 And so that's what all the PR and propaganda is about, but it's not working anymore.

00:43:00.000 I appreciate your call.

00:43:02.000 And they do have three different types of propaganda.

00:43:05.000 They have the pure government propaganda, which they know that no one's buying into anymore.

00:43:10.000 Then they have the middle propaganda, or what they call gray propaganda. 0.72

00:43:13.000 You have black propaganda, gray propaganda, and white propaganda. 0.73

00:43:17.000 And there's government documents on this.

00:43:19.000 The CIA in the past would assess the Soviets this way.

00:43:23.000 They ought to use their own handbooks to go assess themselves. 1.00

00:43:25.000 But with black propaganda, that's government put out that no one is buying into except low-grade morons. 0.98

00:43:30.000 Then you've got grey propaganda that be like a limbaugh that still fools certain partisans, that punches the right buttons, that tells some truth but also a lot of lies, Michael Sandwich. 0.99

00:43:40.000 Then you've got white propaganda. 0.50

00:43:43.000 And white propaganda is where they can go out and find a police officer, a doctor, a nurse, a school teacher, to volunteer for Homeland Security, or FEMA, or any of these other groups, AmeriCorps, Securicorps.

00:43:59.000 And then you brainwash them, you give them just enough of the story where it sounds good, they're compartmentalized, they don't know what they're part of, a larger, a bigger picture, and then they go out and their neighbors, their friends, their families believe in them because people have a gauge, they have a meter, a baloney detector as they say. 0.97

00:44:21.000 Well, they say something else, we'll just call it a garbage detector.

00:44:24.000 But if somebody believes in what they're saying, and they believe they're telling the truth, then it will telegraph to you as true, and you can be fooled by it.

00:44:35.000 That's why FEMA has recruited hundreds of thousands of preachers, hundreds of thousands of doctors and police officers and other people that the public still trusts to a certain extent, to go out and brainwash the public.

00:44:51.000 That's what's happening right now all over this country.

00:44:56.000 I'm going to go to Randy and Virginia and others here in a few minutes, but let me just cover this now.

00:45:01.000 Last Monday I interviewed a pastor.

00:45:03.000 We posted the documents.

00:45:05.000 We posted national documents and local training manuals out of Ohio.

00:45:10.000 And we posted many other training manuals that are being used by state employees in Virginia and Texas, and even what's given to the public, where they say Constitutionalists are terrorists, homeschoolers are terrorists, property rights activists are terrorists.

00:45:22.000 I mean, we have phone numbers.

00:45:23.000 These are real manuals, real flyers.

00:45:25.000 They have the phone numbers.

00:45:26.000 They have the agents' names.

00:45:28.000 They have the document numbers.

00:45:31.000 I mean, the article we wrote last week about this interview with this pastor was over-documented.

00:45:36.000 I mean, it was an absolute joke. 0.60

00:45:38.000 How many hyperlinks, how many documents, video clips of FEMA saying all Christians are terrorists in Kansas City.

00:45:45.000 I mean, everything we claimed was documented.

00:45:50.000 Doesn't matter to these people.

00:45:51.000 I mean, I got a couple emails like this.

00:45:54.000 Reference, secret FEMA plan to use pastors as pacifiers.

00:45:59.000 And Jack D, he gave his full name but I won't use it here, Jack D sent me this email.

00:46:04.000 I ask you to prove it!

00:46:06.000 And that's in bold letters.

00:46:07.000 Anyone can write such an article, but real pastors stand up for the truth and would be telling congregations about this nationwide.

00:46:14.000 So far, not a peep!

00:46:16.000 I am no fan of government.

00:46:17.000 As my research knows, as my readers know, this is some guy's got a website, but I cannot accept unattributed stories such as yours without some eyewitness testimony and other actual proof.

00:46:31.000 Sometimes the conspiracy exists, and sometimes it exists only in imagination.

00:46:35.000 Until you can prove the facts of the secret FEMA plan to use pastors as pacifiers, you will be marginalized as a conspiracy nut with success.

00:46:45.000 I ought to contact Jack D, and I ought to have this guy on the show.

00:46:45.000 Jack!

00:46:52.000 Hey, Jack D!

00:46:54.000 Do you know what hyperlinks are?

00:46:58.000 Jack Dee, it's admitted that FEMA is recruiting pastors and community leaders.

00:47:04.000 I've had the, what in Knoxville and in other areas of the country, I've had the head of the Alabama Defense Forces on.

00:47:11.000 They admit that all of this training is going on.

00:47:15.000 We posted the training manuals, we blacked out the names of the very pastor, We blacked out the names of the other pastors because they want to get us more information.

00:47:26.000 But we posted the official document, sir.

00:47:29.000 The official document is right there for you to read it.

00:47:33.000 What do you mean it's unattributed?

00:47:35.000 You just say it's unattributed?

00:47:37.000 You know, I even get emails every week saying there was no gun confiscation in New Orleans.

00:47:42.000 Doesn't matter if I've got national news clips of it and eyewitnesses and doesn't matter if the mayor announced it on TV.

00:47:49.000 In fact, when the mayor announced that and the gun confiscation began, we wrote an article about it and actually got emails saying we were liars!

00:47:57.000 Didn't matter if we had transcripts, didn't matter if we had a transcript from the New York Times, didn't even matter if we had video clips!

00:48:03.000 It's not real!

00:48:05.000 That reminds me of 1999.

00:48:07.000 I went to the massive urban warfare drill there in Oakland, California, and witnessed Marines, foreign troops, Dutch, British, others, Israeli, French, training with hundreds of role players who were screaming, I'm an American, please knock the camp, I have rights.

00:48:27.000 We have the fake interrogations on video, that they were doing these little war games where, well, where are you from?

00:48:32.000 I'm from San Francisco.

00:48:33.000 Where'd you get the weapons?

00:48:35.000 You know, what militia are you part of?

00:48:37.000 And I came back and put that on TV locally, and I showed that to the world, And hundreds of times I received emails.

00:48:44.000 I was confronted on the street.

00:48:46.000 People told me that I hired the USS Coronado, almost as big as an aircraft carrier.

00:48:52.000 I hired the helicopters.

00:48:53.000 I hired the tanks in downtown Oakland.

00:48:55.000 It's all lies.

00:48:57.000 No, it's not all lies.

00:48:58.000 It's the truth.

00:48:59.000 You can go to the Marine Corps' own website and read about those drills.

00:49:03.000 I don't know what your major malfunction is.

00:49:05.000 I don't know what's wrong with you.

00:49:07.000 But you would deny A Mack truck when it was 10 feet away from you about to run you over.

00:49:14.000 Yes, FEMA is training to confiscate your guns. 0.96

00:49:19.000 The NRA is trying to pass laws, quote, banning gun confiscation during emergencies.

00:49:24.000 Are they delusional too?

00:49:26.000 The gun confiscation was real. 0.98

00:49:29.000 FEMA is on tape saying the Founding Fathers and Christians are terrorists.

00:49:32.000 Project Megiddo does list homeschoolers as terrorists.

00:49:35.000 The Phoenix FBI manual says people that make frequent references to the U.S.

00:49:41.000 Constitution. 0.95

00:49:42.000 The Virginia manual, out this year, the whole thing is posted on the website with phone numbers, you dummy! 0.98

00:49:48.000 You dingbat? 0.98

00:49:49.000 You're in denial.

00:49:50.000 Wanton, willful denial. 0.98

00:49:53.000 And I am sick of people like you. 0.98

00:49:55.000 You make me angry. 1.00

00:49:56.000 It's people like you that are going to kill this country, buddy. 0.98

00:50:02.000 Because you claim you know about the New World Order, but we're making stuff up. 0.97

00:50:05.000 It's like we go show an urban warfare training camp in Mississippi or Louisiana, and then you go visit it and go, well, they say that's a training facility.

00:50:16.000 It's not a camp.

00:50:18.000 Well, of course they're going to tell you a fully furbished set-up camp is for training.

00:50:23.000 And that's what they're using at dual-use for, you maroon!

00:50:25.000 I mean, I, I, I just, it just, it just, there's no way to get the facts across to some of you people.

00:50:33.000 It doesn't matter how documented it is.

00:50:36.000 It doesn't matter.

00:50:37.000 It just, it... Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

00:50:42.000 I mean, are you going to deny it when they're kicking your door down for your guns, or saying you've got to come to earn your guns in for food?

00:50:48.000 When there's some big nuke attack or bio attack?

00:50:50.000 I mean, you'll make excuses then, won't you?

00:50:53.000 We'll come back, talk to Randy and others.

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00:55:39.000 Let's go ahead and go to Randy in Virginia.

00:55:41.000 Randy, you're on the air.

00:55:43.000 Yeah, Alex, you bring up some of these emails these people send you where they don't believe things.

00:55:48.000 That reminded me of the Oklahoma City bombing where, live on the news that day, they were, you know, after the original bomb, so-called, had went off, and then, you know, they're working to get people out.

00:55:59.000 They had the governor, the police video of them removing the bombs, bombing.

00:56:02.000 Right.

00:56:03.000 You know, the other multiple bombs.

00:56:05.000 And then if you tell people that, they just totally, they say, well, you can't believe everything you see.

00:56:10.000 So I think they're implying that I don't know, maybe you went and filmed that on your own and staged it or something.

00:56:15.000 Well, then they double back and say, well, you can't believe the mainstream media, but then they believe the official report.

00:56:21.000 Right.

00:56:22.000 I wanted to ask you, I was going to ask you about this Pentagon video, but you brought up the FEMA program with the pastors, something I'm pretty interested in.

00:56:33.000 What should we do when we see an article like that?

00:56:36.000 Can we call into our local newspaper and ask them about that, and can they run a story on that?

00:56:40.000 How would you go about doing that?

00:56:43.000 I would go around to the preachers and say, are you part of this program in 13,000 counties?

00:56:47.000 13,000 plus counties, and then we've got the federal documents where they admit that they're recruiting the pastors for emergencies, and then we've gotten the internal training manuals that they use And then we have the eyewitnesses.

00:57:01.000 I mean, this listener doesn't get it who sent this email going, I demand the name of the pastor.

00:57:06.000 That's called sources.

00:57:07.000 That's what the media does. 0.96

00:57:08.000 We give you the documents with the names taken out, then we give you even more info from the sources.

00:57:14.000 We know their names, we know the churches, but they're asking that they have anonymity.

00:57:18.000 That's what the media is built on.

00:57:20.000 And then you have to judge the media source and say, have they given me good info in the past?

00:57:25.000 But right beside the preacher claiming this is going on, with the documents backing most of his claims up, we then have all these FEMA and Homeland Security and State Emergency Management Agency documents that say, word for word, everything he's saying.

00:57:39.000 Exactly.

00:57:40.000 And still there's denial.

00:57:41.000 I mean, the mainstream media doesn't back their articles up like we do.

00:57:45.000 Have you read our secret FEMA plan to use pastors as pacifiers article?

00:57:49.000 There's got to be 50 links in there, 10, 15 documents.

00:57:53.000 Exactly.

00:57:54.000 I wanted to ask you about this.

00:57:55.000 I know you don't like to major on this little Pentagon video, but I got to thinking about some of this eyewitness testimony, particularly this guy's name is Frank Probst.

00:58:05.000 I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.

00:58:07.000 Yeah, a lot of them are Defense Intelligence CIA.

00:58:11.000 Pentagon renovation worker and retired Army officer.

00:58:13.000 It goes on down.

00:58:15.000 He said the plane was coming in.

00:58:16.000 He said he dove to his right.

00:58:17.000 The engine passed on one side of him about six feet away.

00:58:21.000 And he saw people in the windows, which at 500 miles an hour is impossible.

00:58:25.000 Right.

00:58:26.000 I'm just wondering, well, he says this great big engine from this beautiful airplane just vaporized.

00:58:30.000 I'm wondering are we supposed to be able to see any of that on these videos?

00:58:33.000 Are there people diving out of the way and that sort of thing?

00:58:37.000 We're meant to debate it endlessly.

00:58:39.000 We'll be right back.

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00:58:46.000 Big Brother.

00:58:47.000 Mainstream media.

00:58:48.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:49.000 You want answers?

00:58:55.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Ups You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 We've got senior former CIA analysts for Reagan and Bush Sr.

00:59:19.000 joining us coming up in the next segment.

00:59:22.000 Articles here, data indicates Border Patrol build-ups ineffective.

00:59:25.000 They were designed to be that way.

00:59:29.000 We also have reports here, babies aborted for not being perfect in England.

00:59:33.000 This is becoming more and more widespread.

00:59:36.000 Right now, let's go to some more of your calls than Ray McGovern.

00:59:39.000 And by the way, John, just so we have it when McGovern joins us, find the last Jon Stewart piece we aired about two weeks ago where he talks about Ray McGovern.

00:59:46.000 I want to play that clip coming in.

00:59:48.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Chris in Philadelphia.

00:59:52.000 Chris, welcome.

00:59:54.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:59:55.000 I'm a first-time caller, long-time listener, and an owner of 75% of your information.

01:00:02.000 I'd just like to say good job, and I'll be really brief.

01:00:06.000 I got three points and a question.

01:00:09.000 The first point being, I want you to elaborate off-air, is the Malthus principle of population control.

01:00:16.000 And the second point is the Hegelian dialect and the materialistic dialect.

01:00:23.000 And the question is, what about organization of the militias?

01:00:29.000 I heard your comments on Friday, and the guy was saying we had to do this through peaceful means, and I just don't think that's possible.

01:00:37.000 And I'd like to see you have some, you know, like, real reputable militia guys on your show.

01:00:43.000 And I have another point to make about male tampering.

01:00:47.000 David J. Smith's stuff that's been going out to his people has been getting tampered with.

01:00:52.000 My boss had his envelope opened by the U.S.

01:00:55.000 Postal Service, and it said, sorry, we opened your mail.

01:00:58.000 I never got that one.

01:00:59.000 I had to call back David J. Smith's wife, and she sent me out another one.

01:01:04.000 That too was open, but at least I got this one.

01:01:07.000 Well, they admit now, they searched the mail.

01:01:09.000 Again, we always heard about Russia and China.

01:01:12.000 Now, we live under that, but the border stays wide open.

01:01:15.000 Oh yeah, of course.

01:01:16.000 I mean, you said short, and these are all great comments and questions.

01:01:21.000 Let me go ahead and start trying to address the issues you brought up.

01:01:25.000 But first off, anything else you want to add?

01:01:27.000 I'd like to tell you too, Alex.

01:01:29.000 In Norristown, Montgomery County, they set up an oligarchy, and this is in Pennsylvania, They admit they're not going to have a mayor anymore because the mayor squandered the money.

01:01:40.000 Now a four-person city council is going to run Norristown Borough out there.

01:01:45.000 Oh yes, you've gone into economic crisis so a private consortium will have to run things now?

01:01:51.000 Well, the city council made up of four members.

01:01:54.000 And the other report is Homeland Security was in the neighborhood, in the vicinity of Philadelphia International Airport.

01:02:02.000 They had our perimeter set up, and that was about a month ago, so I'd just like to report that to you.

01:02:07.000 Thank you, I appreciate the call.

01:02:09.000 Lord Malthus, he came up with this idea, what was it, like 200 years ago, 170 years ago, I forget, I've read about him, but... 0.95

01:02:19.000 The point is, is he said that the people are basically scum, that who cares if they die in factories or who cares if they starve to death, that the elite has a right to rule over them and there's too many people, and so just don't even take care of the population, they're basically worthless.

01:02:35.000 And that grew in the next hundred years into Social Darwinism saying it's the elite's right to be abusive and evil and do bad things to us because it's their Social Darwinistic view that it's a selective development with evolution and that they're actually helping the earth by being ruthless and because they are ruthless that gives them a right to rule and it just goes on and on so that's the Malthusian theory 0.97

01:03:04.000 As it is known.

01:03:06.000 And you had a bunch of other questions.

01:03:08.000 There were so many I couldn't keep track of all of them.

01:03:10.000 But we're going to go to break now and come back with Ray McGovern.

01:03:15.000 I mean the whole Malthusian Theory fits nicely into Dr. Pianca here at UT Austin saying 90% of us need to die.

01:03:21.000 The dying needs to start now. 0.98

01:03:22.000 He's ready for his family to die. 0.59

01:03:24.000 It's sad, but he's ready to go first. 0.99

01:03:27.000 And then his own students write, Dissertations that are online saying, no, we all must die, and that we're just a scourge and a parasite ourselves.

01:03:36.000 But of course, the elite, they'll have to organize the dying and run things.

01:03:41.000 And they represent the animals, so they'll go ahead and take all our rights away in the name of the animals. 0.93

01:03:46.000 It's not that they want power, they're just trying to save the Earth.

01:03:50.000 It's a rationale for total control.

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01:07:16.000 The criminal neocons know their time is short.

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01:07:42.000 And so we're turning up the heat.

01:07:44.000 I'm here on Memorial Day, Ray McGovern, Senior CIA Analyst, Advisor to Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, and others in the agency, 27 years.

01:07:53.000 Tirelessly traveling the country, exposing the great peril our Republic is in.

01:07:58.000 He, of course, is an Army veteran himself, a Vietnam-era, and we are honored to have him.

01:08:02.000 But before we go to him, I want to play this Jon Stewart piece.

01:08:05.000 It's about three and a half minutes long.

01:08:06.000 We've played this before, but I want to play it one more time.

01:08:09.000 This is just a few days after he confronted Rumsfeld on his lies.

01:08:16.000 And by the way, I've got a new film coming out that isn't really about 9-11.

01:08:19.000 We spent about 15 minutes on 9-11.

01:08:21.000 Most of the film is about Iraq and the lies. 0.86

01:08:25.000 And, I mean, I had so many clips of Rumsfeld saying that they found WMDs or knew where they were, or we know he has weapons of mass destruction, that I couldn't even put them all in the film.

01:08:35.000 It took a long time to go dig all these up.

01:08:37.000 We did.

01:08:38.000 And then he has the nerve to lie again and say to McGovern, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:08:41.000 Those, uh, I never said that.

01:08:44.000 So let's play this little clip and notice how the media responded and attacked McGovern.

01:08:49.000 Attacked McGovern for simply saying the Emperor has no clothes.

01:08:56.000 So let's roll this clip and we'll be joined by great American patriot Ray McGovern.

01:09:00.000 A little comedic gag.

01:09:00.000 Here it is.

01:09:02.000 And honestly, anytime Zarkawi releases a tape, it's news.

01:09:05.000 But sometimes, it just happens.

01:09:08.000 How is that covered?

01:09:10.000 For example, last week in Atlanta, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was giving a speech when he was suddenly interrupted.

01:09:17.000 There was Screaming Lady, and then of course Screaming Fellow also joined in, and then Screaming Lady with War Crimes Back. 1.00

01:09:24.000 Typical, easily dismissed crackpots doing the same old... Wait, I'm sorry sir, you had a question?

01:09:31.000 I'm Ray McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency.

01:09:36.000 Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary and that has caused these kinds of casualties?

01:09:43.000 Rough row.

01:09:44.000 First of all, I haven't lied.

01:09:48.000 He didn't lie!

01:09:48.000 Oh!

01:09:49.000 Alright, well that settles it everybody, there's pound cake in the back, we're gonna all have a nice time and uh... It appears that there were not weapons of mass destruction there.

01:09:59.000 You said you knew where they were.

01:10:01.000 I did not.

01:10:03.000 He never said he knew where they were.

01:10:03.000 See?

01:10:08.000 We know where they are.

01:10:09.000 They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and East, West, South and North.

01:10:25.000 Well, to be fair, Rumsfeld probably never saw that episode of Meet the Press.

01:10:32.000 So the Secretary of Defense caught in a contradiction about weapons of mass destruction.

01:10:38.000 Surely that will be a big story.

01:10:42.000 How much of an axe do you have to grind with Secretary Rumsfeld?

01:10:45.000 But he wasn't just any heckler.

01:10:46.000 Were you nervous?

01:10:47.000 Tucker, I resent the word heckler.

01:10:49.000 I'd like you to take that back.

01:10:51.000 Okay, I'm not taking it back!

01:10:52.000 Rumsfeld encouraged whoever, I think, had their hands on you at the time to let you stay there.

01:10:58.000 Does he get any credit for that today?

01:10:59.000 Isn't it enough that he was wrong and had bad judgment? 0.88

01:11:01.000 Why does he have to be a liar too?

01:11:03.000 Well, you know, that's the question you'd have to direct to him.

01:11:06.000 But won't.

01:11:09.000 To be fair, one news network was able to question Rumsfeld personally.

01:11:13.000 No holds barred.

01:11:15.000 So when you hear people say, we won the war, but we lost the peace.

01:11:19.000 Oh, that's nonsense.

01:11:20.000 So it's your way or the highway is not true.

01:11:24.000 It is so wrong, it's just unbelievable.

01:11:28.000 Mmm, that's some good old-fashioned muck polishing.

01:11:32.000 Yes, as Iraq continues to spiral out of control and criticism of Rumsfeld grows, Fox News decided it was time to take an in-depth look at the issue.

01:11:39.000 Yes, why he fights an hour-long investigative report into the real Donald Rumsfeld, hosted by Necklace Johnson. 0.95

01:11:52.000 He wears a pedometer on his belt to count every step he takes every day.

01:11:57.000 But even for a former college wrestler who still did one-arm push-ups.

01:12:01.000 People Magazine named him one of the year's sexiest men.

01:12:09.000 Wow!

01:12:09.000 One of the year's sexiest men!

01:12:11.000 I believe, though, that was a pretty off year for sexy men.

01:12:16.000 If I remember correctly, that was the year Tom Bosley won.

01:12:21.000 Now, the special did include interviews with Rumsfeld critic General Paul Van Rieper, one of the officers who had called for Rumsfeld's resignation.

01:12:31.000 I'm sure there'll be no change in the reporter's inflection.

01:12:35.000 What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?

01:12:37.000 And you don't think this debate threatens the civilian leadership of the military?

01:12:43.000 Does that hurt the war effort?

01:12:48.000 I can't tell if I'm smelling the fairness or the balance.

01:12:53.000 But ultimately why he fights could only end with why.

01:12:57.000 That is a piece of the airplane.

01:13:03.000 Couldn't have gone with Stark or Vivid or Effective.

01:13:03.000 Wonderful.

01:13:06.000 It's almost like you're enjoying this.

01:13:07.000 people who come in here of what happened.

01:13:10.000 Wonderful.

01:13:11.000 Couldn't have gone with stark or vivid or effective.

01:13:16.000 It's almost like you're enjoying this.

01:13:19.000 We'll be right back.

01:13:21.000 You said you knew where they were near Khakrit, near Baghdad, and northeast, south, and west of there.

01:13:27.000 Those are your words.

01:13:28.000 They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad, and East, West, South, and North somewhat.

01:13:34.000 Alright, Ray McGovern, thanks for sitting through that on this Memorial Day.

01:13:38.000 Thank you for joining us, sir.

01:13:41.000 First time I heard the whole thing!

01:13:45.000 Well, right out of the gates, will you respond to what happened in that meeting up in Virginia, and then the media firestorm that erupted?

01:13:52.000 Actually, it was down in Atlanta.

01:13:54.000 It was completely serendipitous.

01:13:57.000 I was down there for a totally different reason, and when I heard he was coming down to give a lecture, I had to use some of my old tradecraft to wangle a ticket, but I invested $40, and that still stings, by the way, and got into his lecture and sat near the microphone that would be used for questions and answers.

01:14:18.000 So it was fortuitous, and I guess what really turned me on or off, depending on how you look at it, Alex, is when one of those ladies who was protesting said, you know, you've told a lot of lies, you've told a lot of lies,

01:14:34.000 And Rumsfeld, you've probably seen him do this, he sort of wrung his hands and said, gosh, you know, when people accuse the President of the United States of telling lies, I just, you know, she didn't accuse the President of the United States, she accused Rumsfeld.

01:14:52.000 But he went on and he said, that is just so corrosive, so destructive of the trust that is necessary for government to work.

01:15:03.000 It's just so So long. 0.84

01:15:05.000 And then he went on to the next question and I said to myself, oh my goodness, you know, I have to ask some question of him just to throw his words back on him and show that he's the consummate liar.

01:15:18.000 As luck would have it, I got second in line and was able to do that on live TV.

01:15:24.000 Now let's be clear, and you're right, Atlanta, you're there, there are people who are standing up saying things, but you're in the line to ask questions, that's why you're mic'd, that's why we can hear you, but then some of the media tried to imply that you were a heckler, when in reality you were there asking questions, and then security came over and was, you know, basically telling you to knock it off.

01:15:45.000 Can you go over what actually happened there?

01:15:48.000 Sure, yeah.

01:15:48.000 I was not heckling, of course.

01:15:52.000 I was in line, and he came to me, called on me, and you heard how I started.

01:16:00.000 After I got into it, and he seemed to be getting a little bit uncharacteristically unnerved, this big guy comes down with a white coat.

01:16:10.000 A white coat, actually.

01:16:12.000 And a black baseball cap.

01:16:14.000 And since he knew the cameras were coming well from the back, he placed himself around and in front of me, put his elbow in my solar plexus, and started driving me out of the arena.

01:16:27.000 And that's when I cried out, this is America.

01:16:31.000 And when Rumsfeld saw that, he had an instant decision to make.

01:16:38.000 And he made the right one from his point of view.

01:16:40.000 I mean, it just would have been Pretty bad PR to have someone who was simply asking him a question, which he already had lied about, to be sort of carried out of this conference.

01:16:53.000 Well, Bush had me kidnapped at a press conference for asking a question he didn't like, and he directed them, they grabbed me, they put me in the police car, drove me around for an hour, threw me out on the side of the highway.

01:17:03.000 So, this has been going on for a while, but what does it say about the mentality that you're in line to ask a question And Rumsfeld hasn't even told them to grab you, but still, they're physically manhandling you.

01:17:16.000 Well, somebody pointed out, some very acute observer, that Rumsfeld did sort of give a little wink to the back of the room when he got into a little bit of trouble with me.

01:17:26.000 Yeah, that's what Bush did with me.

01:17:28.000 Yeah, they look at him and then look at you.

01:17:29.000 Yeah, and then the guy came down, and then when Rumsfeld saw the choice here had me carried out, Uh, or try to, you know, try to persist a little bit and put me down.

01:17:40.000 Uh, he of course is the champion Princeton debater and, uh, he exuded this confidence and said, oh no, no, no, let him stay for a second.

01:17:50.000 And thankfully that second expanded into two more minutes.

01:17:54.000 Well, they've got a problem.

01:17:56.000 No one that I know, and the polls show this, is buying their baloney anymore, Ray McGovern, and so the credibility gap is there.

01:18:04.000 Bush is plunging down to 28 percentage points, which is a record.

01:18:08.000 Where do you see this going?

01:18:11.000 Well, just focusing on Rumsfeld, you know, none other than pundit Jim Hoagland, no liberal heat, Has pointed out that when Rumsfeld runs into difficulty, he expands the problem.

01:18:27.000 Uh, and that's what I worry about.

01:18:29.000 I worry about Iran, which seems to be next on their agenda. 1.00

01:18:33.000 Doesn't make any sense, but neither did Iraq.

01:18:36.000 Yeah, let's talk about, let's talk about Olbert coming here, uh, we've got Blair coming to the U.S., they're having the war councils, and we talk about that Ponzi scheme always inflating it, you know, the next crisis to cover the last.

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01:22:58.000 We can't back down from the neocon agenda.

01:23:03.000 This is a real attempt to take our country over, use it as an engine of world domination.

01:23:08.000 They admit that themselves, Ray McGovern Sr., retired CIA analyst, worked for Reagan and Bush and many others.

01:23:14.000 Mr. McGovern, this is a short segment, long segment, coming up.

01:23:17.000 Plenty of time to get into details.

01:23:19.000 No one wants to attack Iran.

01:23:21.000 That is the people, but they seem to have now gotten more of the Europeans on board.

01:23:24.000 The Chinese and Russians aren't right now, but I wouldn't count on that.

01:23:28.000 Israel's Obert was here, as you know, last week.

01:23:31.000 They're talking about attacking, even if we don't, but trying to draw us in.

01:23:35.000 Blair's running around announcing a new doctrine of preemptive Progressivism is what he calls it.

01:23:42.000 I mean, I think these nuts are really going to try to do it. 0.99

01:23:46.000 Can you give us, in a nutshell, the analysis of what's driving this?

01:23:51.000 I think I can, Alex.

01:23:53.000 I've been thinking a lot about this here.

01:23:56.000 First off, people who say this is a crazy thing to do are absolutely right.

01:24:02.000 They must realize, though, that the crazy filter is not applied to decisions like this by the White House.

01:24:10.000 What's happening here is that the U.S. 0.52

01:24:12.000 and Israel are using each other.

01:24:17.000 Bush and company, in their vision, which is well explained in the Project for the New American Century documents, are determined to dominate that part of the world.

01:24:29.000 And it's kind of hard just to say, hey, we're the sole remaining superpower of the world, and so we're just going to do what we have to to dominate that part of the world.

01:24:38.000 What they think they need to do more cleverly is to say, our ally, Israel.

01:24:44.000 Of course, Israel is not our ally. 0.58

01:24:46.000 I hope your listeners know that.

01:24:48.000 There is no defense treaty with Israel.

01:24:51.000 Our ally, Israel, is in danger from nuclear weapons being delivered by Iran. 0.78

01:24:57.000 It doesn't matter that they're seven or eight years off of a nuclear weapon, but this is the argument.

01:25:02.000 And so it's much easier for the Bush regime to say, look, This is a matter of a mutual security obligation, of which there exists none, and we need to spring to Israel's defense.

01:25:18.000 Of course, Congress is beholden to all that money they get from the Israel lobby, and specifically AIPAC.

01:25:24.000 And so, just as they did with Iraq in writing letters to the President, we need regime change in Iraq, they're doing the same thing now for regime change in Iran.

01:25:36.000 Now, as far as the Israelis are concerned, this is great for them.

01:25:40.000 None of the usual obligations of a mutual defense treaty.

01:25:45.000 They don't even have to tell us when they take off after another country.

01:25:49.000 And more than that, they get a mutual defense treaty in reality, because the President, as he has three times in the last couple of months, keeps referring to Israel as our ally, to whom we are obligated to spring to their defense.

01:26:02.000 Well, Ray McGovern, isn't it really a mutual attack treaty?

01:26:06.000 Because Israel's saying they're going to probably go ahead and attack Iran, and then I see people in the Knesset every week criticizing the U.S.

01:26:14.000 for not already attacking them. 0.97

01:26:16.000 I mean, this is ridiculous!

01:26:17.000 Yeah, the question is whether they have the capability of doing the job themselves.

01:26:22.000 Most of the folks I talk to indicate that they do not, that they need some U.S.

01:26:28.000 support.

01:26:30.000 And what will happen, of course, is whether the Israelis start it on their own, Or not. 0.98

01:26:37.000 The President has set things up to indicate to the American people that we are duty-bound to help the Israelis no matter what happens.

01:26:44.000 What about Seymour Hersh's reports and other foreign reports?

01:26:47.000 I've found Hersh to be very credible in the past, that special forces have been there sneaking around for a year, surveilling targets.

01:26:55.000 Alex, not only special forces.

01:26:58.000 Marines.

01:26:58.000 U.S.

01:27:00.000 Okay.

01:27:01.000 U.S.

01:27:01.000 Marines and Special Forces ordered there by the same Donald Rumsfeld, without any congressional authorization, without any specific decision memorandum.

01:27:11.000 But think about what a provocation that is!

01:27:13.000 Iran knows that we've got troops in their country! 0.91

01:27:16.000 Imagine if they were doing this to us!

01:27:18.000 Yeah, of course they know.

01:27:19.000 As a matter of fact, they've captured some of the minority folks that are cooperating with these troops.

01:27:25.000 You know, they're ready for action.

01:27:25.000 So they're ready.

01:27:27.000 They're hoping against hope that we won't do it.

01:27:31.000 I predict that we will do it, and that we'll do it sooner rather than later, as early as late June or early July.

01:27:37.000 Oh my gosh!

01:27:38.000 We will have three aircraft carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf in another week, and all the propaganda business has been orchestrated.

01:27:49.000 It's very much like a few weeks before we attacked Iraq.

01:27:53.000 And then we add this fake story, totally manufactured about making Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians wear pieces of cloth, including yellow for Jews. 0.64

01:28:03.000 Turns out it was completely and totally made up.

01:28:06.000 Even the Jewish member of the Mullahs, or of their ruling council there, said it's total propaganda.

01:28:13.000 It's like the babies and the incubators.

01:28:16.000 Yeah, they're in Kuwait.

01:28:18.000 Stay there.

01:28:19.000 Stay there, sir.

01:28:20.000 I want to get your analysis on that.

01:28:21.000 How the attack will come down.

01:28:23.000 What Iran is going to do. 0.94

01:28:24.000 Because they're considering it an act of premeditated aggression if Iran fights back.

01:28:30.000 They're actually saying it will be a terrorist attack if Iran fights back.

01:28:35.000 And they're talking about nuking them if they fight back.

01:28:38.000 This is unbelievable.

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01:28:41.000 Ray McGovern?

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01:33:44.000 Get them, make copies, get them out to everybody you can now.

01:33:47.000 Going back to Ray McGovern.

01:33:50.000 Mr. McGovern, go through this for us, because we know that they're saying they want to hit them, we know they're saying they need to hit them, we know that Cheney's saying they can have nukes within a month, when the CIA's own assessment last year is ten years, we have you talking about that in the new film Terror Storm, but earlier you said seven years, I guess there's some new assessment, and then we have all this propaganda, we were talking about that before the break, claiming they were going to put

01:34:19.000 Special symbols on Jews and Christians.

01:34:21.000 Again, total fabrication.

01:34:23.000 And then my other question is, have we seen three carrier groups mass in the last year?

01:34:28.000 I mean, is this the first time we've seen this configuration?

01:34:31.000 What are you hearing from people inside the government?

01:34:33.000 Break it down for us, and then what we'll see if this attack takes place, what some of the different scenarios are, sir.

01:34:41.000 Well, there is one carrier task force already there in the Gulf.

01:34:46.000 Two are steaming toward it.

01:34:48.000 And that last report, that I have at least, they will all be there in another week or so.

01:34:53.000 The folly of this attack can be explained partly by the same folly that we experienced in Vietnam where Well, the folks with the blue suits and the stars on their lapels tell the president, hey, you know, we can bomb the hell out of these folks. 0.82

01:35:13.000 And, you know, we have these precision bombs and we can just do the job.

01:35:16.000 Don't have to worry about anything else.

01:35:19.000 And so it seems to me that the first attempt will simply be bombing using stealth bombers and others and cruise missiles and so forth in hopes that enough of the known facilities having to do with nuclear facilities there in Iran will be taken out.

01:35:38.000 What these folks never think of is what happens the next day, you know?

01:35:42.000 And that's, I think, what you're asking.

01:35:44.000 Well, what happens the next day is this.

01:35:48.000 Iran is in command, and I mean in command, of a terrorist network worldwide that makes Al-Qaeda look like, you know, the Mount Sinairs for the volleyball team. 0.99

01:36:03.000 These guys really can do a lot of damage, and they can do it here in this country as well.

01:36:08.000 That's number one.

01:36:10.000 Number two, they have sophisticated weaponry that can skim across the waves of the Gulf and sink ships like U.S.

01:36:17.000 ships and other ships.

01:36:18.000 Cruise missiles?

01:36:19.000 Yeah.

01:36:20.000 Well, actually, these are little line-of-sight missiles.

01:36:25.000 They're very, very fast, and they're very, very effective.

01:36:28.000 Is that the Exocet or Silkworm?

01:36:31.000 They're both.

01:36:32.000 The Silkworm was the latest, but now I understand there's an even more advanced version of that.

01:36:37.000 And then finally, of course, those of you who have a little grainier here will relate to this.

01:36:43.000 The Iranians can easily send three divisions of Revolutionary Guard troops right over the yellow, you know? 0.84

01:36:51.000 By the yellow, I mean the long border with Iraq.

01:36:55.000 And they'll fight!

01:36:56.000 They had almost no real military hardware, and up against $30 billion of U.S.

01:37:00.000 funding, beat Saddam.

01:37:02.000 They did.

01:37:03.000 Toe to toe.

01:37:04.000 The problem is, you know, where are our guys?

01:37:07.000 Our guys are all over Tikrit and Baghdad and Ramadi, and they're looking for terrorists, of course, and so they're not in any position to contend with an invasion of Iraq, an invasion welcomed by the local Sunni population. 1.00

01:37:22.000 And so what's going to happen then?

01:37:24.000 Well, my worst fear is that when that goes up, or that comes down, as we say these days, there's going to be an irresistible urge To use what we do have.

01:37:35.000 And of course what we do have are these mini nukes.

01:37:39.000 And this crowd makes no real distinction between high explosive weaponry and these little mini nukes.

01:37:45.000 They're, you know, they're no big deal.

01:37:48.000 And that will unleash a Pandora's box and we'll be in real deep kinship, not only in the immediate area, but But people like the Russians and people like the Chinese.

01:37:59.000 Well, that's the point I wanted to bring up next, but let me just digress back with a few questions.

01:38:02.000 Jack Straw, big neocon, pro-war, a few weeks ago he says openly, this is crazy, the words he used were your words, this is crazy to attack Iran, it'll be total destabilization, World War III, boom, he's forced to resign a day later.

01:38:19.000 Yeah, you know, that's what happens, you know, if you don't get with the program.

01:38:24.000 Uh, you either get forced to resign or you do resign.

01:38:27.000 This doesn't happen very much... But it's gotta be bad when even their stalwarts like Strom, and we've had now 8 generals, it's not 6, there were 2 before him, 8 generals come out and say that this is totally horrible.

01:38:40.000 Mr. McGovern, we know that Rumsfeld isn't stupid. 0.84

01:38:43.000 We know about P2oG.

01:38:45.000 And clearly, you talked about when he's in trouble, widening something's the plan.

01:38:49.000 They know Iran's going to go totally ape. 0.99

01:38:51.000 They know there's going to be attacks all over the Middle East and the Western world.

01:38:54.000 They'll call them all terrorist attacks.

01:38:56.000 And then we're going to see Bush widen it, national draft, and then, oh, America's in trouble, our troops are being overrun, we've got to fully commit, I mean, isn't that really their plan?

01:39:08.000 And then I think you will see Bush's approval ratings explode, because Americans will get behind the leader, but it'll be a crisis he puts us in the way of by design.

01:39:17.000 I mean, sir, you're a great analyst, I agree with your analysis, I mean, don't you see there, or do you agree, or do you disagree, or give us your take, on they're doing this on purpose.

01:39:26.000 They know what's going to happen.

01:39:28.000 Their analysts are telling them what's going to happen.

01:39:30.000 They know what you just said is true.

01:39:32.000 So they understand this.

01:39:34.000 Well, there are two things here, Alex. 0.91

01:39:38.000 Hubris, arrogance, and ignorance.

01:39:42.000 None of these guys know the first thing about military affairs.

01:39:46.000 The only person who really served was Rumsfeld, and I think he was between Korea and Vietnam, never saw any real combat.

01:39:54.000 Never involved in strategy, he just flew planes.

01:39:56.000 Yeah, you know, so he's like McNamara, he knows it all, because he went to Ivy League school, that kind of stuff.

01:40:02.000 The other thing is the President's approval ratings, or disapproval ratings, more correctly said, which you alluded to earlier on.

01:40:10.000 And that has an awful lot to do with this, and has a lot to do with my fear that this will come soon.

01:40:16.000 Look at them, they're on 28%, 29%.

01:40:20.000 I can see Karl Rove saying, look, what you need to do is become a war president again.

01:40:25.000 Get us involved in something pretty big here, and then strut around and say you can't vote for a bunch of Democrats to pull the rug out from under me while there's a war going on in November, you know, that kind of thing.

01:40:36.000 So I see that as one of the primary incentives for them to unleash this thing, and again, they have no real They have no real expertise to draw on.

01:40:46.000 I mean, we suggested and we pleaded with the President before the war in Iraq.

01:40:53.000 On the same day as Colin Powell spoke, we finished our memo saying, Mr. President, we strongly urge you to broaden the circle of your advisors beyond those already bent on a war for which we see no cogent reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic.

01:41:13.000 Now, you know, we take no delight in being right there, but we take great pain and great worry of seeing the circle narrowing even more, with not even Colin Powell, for whatever he was worth, he knew a couple things these others didn't, he's not even there again.

01:41:32.000 And I just add this footnote here because it seems really relevant.

01:41:37.000 The only time that, in my experience, I've been watching things for 43 years now in Washington,

01:41:44.000 The only time we really came close to a nuclear exchange was during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we avoided that primarily for one reason and one reason only, and that was that John Kennedy had the presence of mind to insist that Llewellyn Thompson, who had just retired from being ambassador to Moscow for a scaty eight years, okay, to insist that Llewellyn Thompson be there at every, every decision meeting, every consultation meeting.

01:42:12.000 And so when Curtis LeMay, the head of the Air Force, had his nuclear weapons all loaded up in his bombers, and they were all set to take off, Llewellyn Thompson said, Sir, Mr. President, I do not agree.

01:42:26.000 And the operator looked up and he says, What did you say?

01:42:29.000 Mr. President, I disagree.

01:42:30.000 And then John Kennedy listened to him and what Llewellyn Thompson said was this, Look, you have two messages from Herschel, One is a conciliatory one, one is a bellicose one, probably done with the generals looking over his shoulder.

01:42:45.000 Respond to the first one.

01:42:47.000 I'll bet you, Mr. President, that he's looking for an easy way to get out of this mess that he created for himself.

01:42:53.000 Kennedy said, we'll go with Llewellyn's plan for the time being.

01:42:57.000 You know the rest of the story.

01:42:59.000 Well, why am I mentioning this?

01:43:00.000 We got a conciliatory message from the Iranian president.

01:43:04.000 Yeah, we do!

01:43:06.000 Okay, and it's, you know, the parallel is really intriguing, because the bottom line is, Alex, and this is really scary... The bottom line is they...

01:43:18.000 The Iranian president lost a lot of face doing that.

01:43:20.000 They've never done that before.

01:43:21.000 And Bush didn't even read it before they responded.

01:43:24.000 Exactly.

01:43:25.000 And from our side, there just ain't no Llewellyn Thompson around now.

01:43:30.000 And if there were, it'd not be permitted anywhere near the inner circle of the presidency.

01:43:35.000 So we have Cheney and Rumsfeld.

01:43:37.000 We have the cabal that is so well described by Colin Powell's Chief of State, Larry Wilkerson.

01:43:43.000 They're making all the decisions, and they're the ones responsible for Iraq. 0.96

01:43:49.000 In a lighter vein, Alex, I have a solution.

01:43:53.000 What we ought to do is have Congress pass a bill Making it unlawful for President Bush to attack any country whose president has a name that Bush can't pronounce.

01:44:08.000 That should give us a couple of weeks, at least, and, you know, it would be... Ahmed Ejad, I have trouble pronouncing it.

01:44:15.000 I do, too, but it would take, I think, our president for a while to do that.

01:44:19.000 No, seriously.

01:44:20.000 It's a very, very serious situation.

01:44:22.000 Congress is willing to let Rumsfeld do what he wants.

01:44:26.000 I mean, he's got U.S.

01:44:27.000 Marines inside Iran now without any allusion to Congress.

01:44:31.000 Well, this is like Hitler turning east and going up against Russia when he had problems.

01:44:36.000 We've now gotten the documents of Goebbels and Goering and, of course, Himmler's debates.

01:44:43.000 And so they wanted to expand it, really on the domestic front, to quote, have some victories.

01:44:48.000 Iran is 63 million people versus 22 million people.

01:44:52.000 Geographically, what, it's two or three times bigger.

01:44:56.000 And these people are going to fight.

01:44:57.000 I guess the neocons, if they're not trying to create a big crisis to widen something, maybe they think there'll be some domestic uprising, CIA manipulated replay of Kermit Roosevelt in 1953.

01:45:07.000 But that brings me to false flag.

01:45:10.000 You know, you've said that the Mosque bombing, some of the things we've seen, have Western intelligence written all over it.

01:45:15.000 What about our own governments, or someone in the government, or a private group, staging some event, and then claiming Iran has carried it out as a prelude to attacking Iran, or even once Iran is attacked, intelligence agencies launching something in Europe or the US, and then claiming Iran did that.

01:45:37.000 Your take on that?

01:45:40.000 Well, Alex, that's altogether possible.

01:45:42.000 That's altogether possible, and I would say even probable, because they would need some proximate cause, some Causus Belli, to justify really unleashing things on Iran. 0.53

01:45:54.000 And that would help, of course, and I would put very little past this crew.

01:46:01.000 Record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled.

01:46:07.000 Well look at the, which I'm glad you brought up on national TV.

01:46:10.000 I brought it up on CNN as well.

01:46:11.000 We're the only two that have done it and gotten through the Berlin Wall of media control, the Iron Curtain.

01:46:16.000 But the White House memo is much more important than Downing Street.

01:46:20.000 I mean, we have them talking about painting up a plane like a UN plane and trying to get it shot down or saying a defector found WMDs.

01:46:28.000 I mean, these guys, that is the smoking gun.

01:46:31.000 That's right.

01:46:32.000 And, you know, the whole thing was that they knew that there weren't weapons of mass destruction, so they're going to have to do something else or something to hasten the process of doing a war.

01:46:41.000 Let me say another word, Alex, about the electoral business here.

01:46:45.000 The stakes could not be larger for this administration because if the Democrats take the House in November, There will be, in my view, impeachment proceedings for sure.

01:46:59.000 I've had two congressmen on this show say that as well.

01:47:01.000 It's 100% impeachment, then the whole crime cabal will get blown.

01:47:06.000 There will be investigations for the next two years.

01:47:06.000 That's exactly right.

01:47:09.000 Now, those could be consequential.

01:47:11.000 I mean, people could get impeached, but also people could get thrown into jail, as we saw last week with the Enron types.

01:47:18.000 Kinley, six counts.

01:47:19.000 Yeah, so there's a lot riding on this thing.

01:47:24.000 Uh, it behooves the President, or, you know, I'm sure Cheney, Gonzalez, Rove, and the rest of them are saying, Mr. President, we've got to prevent this at any cost, and if it means, you know, using our smart weaponry to To do the job on Iran? 0.83

01:47:38.000 Well, let's just go ahead and do it.

01:47:40.000 And if we consult people like Ken Edelman, I'm sure he'll tell us there'll be a cakewalk again.

01:47:45.000 What about Israel?

01:47:46.000 I mean, we noticed it was the ADL out of Canada that first put out the fake report of Jews having to wear basically yellow stars.

01:47:53.000 Again, total lie now, folks.

01:47:55.000 Totally retracted, but quietly.

01:47:58.000 Why is Israel jumping up and down?

01:48:00.000 Why do they want an attack on Iran?

01:48:03.000 I mean, they're not really threatened by Iran right now.

01:48:05.000 Why?

01:48:06.000 Well, there are two things here.

01:48:08.000 First, we need to be a little careful when we talk about Israel.

01:48:10.000 This is a clique of right-wing Likud types.

01:48:15.000 I'm talking about the leadership.

01:48:15.000 No, I understand.

01:48:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:19.000 And they, you know, they are kind of way out in front.

01:48:24.000 And what I would emphasize is that they are incredibly short-sighted.

01:48:30.000 Look what happened in Iraq, you know?

01:48:32.000 If part of the objective, which I'm convinced it was, Was to make Israel more secure.

01:48:39.000 Well, you know, there weren't any terrorists in Iraq before we invaded there.

01:48:42.000 Now it's teeming with terrorists.

01:48:44.000 All, a lot of them out to do Israel in, okay? 0.99

01:48:48.000 So that's one thing.

01:48:49.000 The other thing is that, you know, from a general perspective, the Israelis do not want to take any chances that any country, especially Iran, would erode its nuclear monopoly in the Middle East.

01:49:03.000 They have 300 to 400 nuclear weapons there.

01:49:06.000 Nobody mentions that, but they want to keep that monopoly, and they see it as a big infringement on their security, where Iran could get even just one or two weapons.

01:49:18.000 Now, you know, Ahmadinejad makes it easy for the Israelis to raise the flag.

01:49:24.000 If they look, they're going to zomp us as soon as they get a weapon.

01:49:27.000 I don't think it will happen, because that would be suicide for Iran. 0.99

01:49:32.000 Ahmed Dinejad.

01:49:33.000 I want to talk about if you were Ahmed Dinejad or Dinejad, what would Ray McGovern do if you were Ahmed Dinejad?

01:49:42.000 What would you do right now to try to avert this?

01:49:45.000 And in closing, what you think Iran and China are going to do, when and if this attack takes place.

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01:53:01.000 Then I'm going to run a rebroadcast of a pastor we had on last week.

01:53:05.000 We have the documents.

01:53:06.000 They're openly recruited pastors in 13,000 counties.

01:53:10.000 Tens of thousands, around 25% in each county, to prepare their flocks for martial law, as the CIA called it.

01:53:17.000 It's white propaganda where you have people who are well-known and respected and trusted.

01:53:21.000 They're openly telling them gun confiscation, martial law, total control.

01:53:25.000 And I think that's what this is really all about, is getting us into a crisis so big, That domestically they can take over as well. 0.81

01:53:33.000 Ray McGovern, can you comment on all of the preparations we've seen for domestic SCSI-type operations, sir?

01:53:42.000 Not in five minutes, Alex.

01:53:44.000 Just briefly?

01:53:45.000 No, I'm sorry, the list is very long.

01:53:48.000 I'll tell you one that is really close to home and one that people don't know about.

01:53:54.000 In the Intelligence Authorization Bill that Pete Hoekstra, the

01:54:00.000 The head of the House Intelligence Committee, he put in a provision which says this, the Director of National Intelligence shall prepare a study in 90 days to determine whether he, under existing authorities, can suspend the pensions of CIA pensioners for talking about classified material.

01:54:28.000 Or, whether he needs additional authorities.

01:54:31.000 Now, that's creeping fascism right there.

01:54:34.000 In other words, they determine what's classified information, and if that gets passed, I'm not going to be able to talk on your radio program anymore.

01:54:42.000 I'll be labeled liable to be ramped up here in some sort of dragnet.

01:54:47.000 So that's the kind of thing that's happening.

01:54:49.000 On the NSA thing, As you probably know, Congressman Hinchey from New York asked the Justice Department to look into what advice the Justice Department had given NSA to say that that thing was legal, and guess what happened?

01:55:05.000 After two months, the Justice Department responded to Congressman Hinchey saying, sorry, we have to drop the investigation because NSA will not give us the clearances we need to investigate NSA.

01:55:17.000 That's happened now with the FCC as well.

01:55:19.000 And that's dictatorship when they say, oh, the military or this government arm is telling us in enforcement what we can do.

01:55:26.000 What do you see happening with Iran and Syria?

01:55:30.000 If Iran is attacked, what do you think Russia and China will do?

01:55:33.000 We know Russia just sold a bunch of high-tech anti-aircraft systems to Iran.

01:55:39.000 Well, I think that if I were Ahmadinejad, I would be asking the Chinese and the Russians for some sort of Military support.

01:55:47.000 Some sort of pledge that they won't stand idly by to watch this kind of exercise.

01:55:54.000 What Ahmadinejad has already done was quite unprecedented.

01:55:57.000 The first time in 27 years that they communicated with us that long letter.

01:56:03.000 I advise everyone to download that letter and read it.

01:56:06.000 It's really quite ironic, citing Bush's professed Christianity And asking him to square that with the behavior that he's exhibited.

01:56:15.000 What else would you do?

01:56:16.000 I'd try to capture some of those folks that are in his country now.

01:56:21.000 They've already captured some of the dissidents, and there are lots of them, that are being run by our covert operatives.

01:56:29.000 Not CIA types, but defense types.

01:56:32.000 And I'd warn the Azerbaijanis, you know. 1.00

01:56:36.000 The Azerbaijanis That ethnic group comprises about 20-25% of the Iranian nation and they are being egged on by all manner of folks supported by us.

01:56:50.000 I would warn the other Biden government that if they let the US or anybody else, UK, use their country as a platform for this sort of thing, that they can expect some retaliation from Iran.

01:57:02.000 And that's a credible threat, because Iran has that capability. 0.99

01:57:06.000 Then I'd seek support from the other states in the area, because this would be beyond the pale.

01:57:11.000 They really need that kind of extra support.

01:57:14.000 Ray McGovern, a one-minute break.

01:57:15.000 When we get back, we'll spend five final minutes with you.

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01:57:20.000 This is such an important issue.

01:57:22.000 World War III is upon us, or as the neocons call it, World War IV.

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01:58:06.000 Alright, down to the third hour, final segment with Ray McGovern.

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01:58:14.000 World War III, Ray McGovern is predicting that there's a good chance that there will be an attack on Iran.

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01:58:52.000 Ray McGovern, just getting more into when you think the attack will take place, what percentages you think the chances are, and hopefully how we as Americans can stop this.

01:59:06.000 Well, I'm a little ahead of my colleagues and veteran intelligence professionals for sanity.

01:59:14.000 We all pretty much agree that an attack is likely before the election.

01:59:18.000 And we all agree that it has to do largely with the election.

01:59:23.000 As for timing, I see a likelihood that it could come as early as late June or early July.

01:59:29.000 Most of my colleagues predicted August, September, maybe an October surprise even.

01:59:37.000 My thinking is that for it to be October, that would be so crass and so transparent that even this crowd would shy away from making it so obvious.

01:59:47.000 But the propaganda has been, the basis has been laid.

01:59:52.000 The aircraft carriers are in place.

01:59:55.000 It doesn't take much to fly the bombers out of British and U.S.

01:59:58.000 bases.

02:00:00.000 Cruise missiles are at the ready.

02:00:02.000 Israel is egging us on. 0.98

02:00:04.000 The President himself talks about our alliance with Israel.

02:00:09.000 And so I suspect that they will go unless deterred.

02:00:13.000 Now, how could we deter them?

02:00:14.000 Well, I think if we have armed forces in Iran, which I am reliably informed we do, Well, we need to go to our Senators and Representatives and say, under whose authority has Rumsfeld put these folks in Iran?

02:00:29.000 And we should sit in their offices until they see us and answer our question, because this is beyond the pale.

02:00:35.000 And if we don't start putting our bodies into it, instead of writing op-eds or making speeches like I do, if we don't put our bodies into it, well, you know, Martin Luther King Jr.

02:00:45.000 said one time, there is such a thing as too late.

02:00:49.000 Well, I mean, in all fairness to you, you went and physically protested to Rumsfeld.

02:00:54.000 You've gone to his house a few weeks ago and protested at his home.

02:00:57.000 Yeah, I'm getting a little better at that, but I'm trying to convince people that we need to do more than the usual, that these are perilous times, and that we have to discern what the best thing to do is, hopefully.

02:01:09.000 Small community.

02:01:11.000 So you think we have a chance to stop them?

02:01:13.000 I do.

02:01:14.000 Yeah, I do think that because there's so much coming down now and so many egregious things that we don't really have any choice whether we think it's likely or not.

02:01:24.000 So a few more whistleblowers could save this country bringing out more dirt right now?

02:01:29.000 Well, that we're hoping and we have had, as you know, some success in that.

02:01:34.000 That's why they're applying light detector tests to everybody they can find.

02:01:39.000 So, yeah, there is hope.

02:01:40.000 And, you know, even if people judge the likelihood to be less than even that this next war can be prevented, well, you know, we're not supposed to be about success.

02:01:51.000 We're supposed to be about being faithful to the people who created this great country, and we owe it to them.

02:01:57.000 In fact, the famous statement, I believe, of George Washington, is, duty is ours, consequence belongs to God.

02:01:57.000 You're right.

02:02:02.000 The final comment, having all these generals going public, does that show the majority of the brass is against this war?

02:02:09.000 Yes and no.

02:02:11.000 The retired brass, yes.

02:02:13.000 The current brass, they're all creatures of this regime.

02:02:17.000 And they'll salute and do what they're told.

02:02:19.000 So it's not quite legitimate or wise to place any faith in the notion that they will disobey orders.

02:02:27.000 Ray McGovern, have a great Memorial Day.

02:02:28.000 I can't think of a better way for you to serve the country as you've done for so long for joining us today.

02:02:32.000 God bless you, my friend.

02:02:33.000 I can't wait to see you in person in Los Angeles.

02:02:36.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:02:36.000 I'm looking forward to it.

02:02:38.000 God bless.

02:02:38.000 I am too.

02:02:39.000 We'll be right back with the FEMA News.

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02:06:17.000 A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.

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02:06:56.000 But that's absolutely true.

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02:07:06.000 Everything we talk about here is documented.

02:07:08.000 I want to just set up this interview with a few comments, and we're going to go to Pastor Revere.

02:07:13.000 He said just call him Pastor, but I'll call him Pastor Revere.

02:07:17.000 We know the church he's at.

02:07:18.000 We know who he is, a senior pastor of a large church.

02:07:21.000 We know Where he lives, we have the documents.

02:07:24.000 Pastor Butch Paw has gotten them from him.

02:07:26.000 Pastor's put articles out on this.

02:07:27.000 We've got to go get Pastor Butch Paw's article about this and post it.

02:07:31.000 We're going to write our own article about it.

02:07:34.000 I know for a fact that FEMA, going back with the Secure Corps program, a division of AmeriCorps, it was in the Philadelphia News, it was in Daily News, it was in several other publications.

02:07:47.000 It's training high school students and middle school students with M-16s, we're talking semi-autos, AR-15 variant, in warrant service, fighting terrorists, reporting on their parents, BATF, and hundreds of school districts we know of.

02:08:03.000 We first learned of this six years ago in North Carolina.

02:08:08.000 But it's nationwide, have deputies paid by FEMA grant, but it goes through BATF, to have whole semesters in 7th and 8th grade, where they have access to the students on the playground and at lunch, they have them write dossiers on their parents, what's in the medicine cabinet.

02:08:24.000 You understand, folks?

02:08:27.000 We have had The head officer, the commander on from the Alabama Defense Forces, they cordon off parts of cities randomly and search women and children.

02:08:36.000 We have photos and video of this in Martial Law, my new film.

02:08:39.000 They search everyone, including three-year-old children, training them to be slaves.

02:08:43.000 But the border is wide open.

02:08:44.000 They're at sporting events searching people.

02:08:46.000 The Texas Defense Forces, known as the Texas Guard, are now being trained for this.

02:08:49.000 We've had Texas Guard on this show.

02:08:51.000 We have their own documents.

02:08:53.000 They're shifting away from firefighting and things like that to gun confiscation.

02:08:56.000 We reported all of this before New Orleans.

02:08:58.000 In New Orleans, they sabotaged things, cut police lines, wouldn't let the police and firemen in to save people.

02:09:04.000 Tens of thousands of police and firemen that came in from around the country.

02:09:07.000 FEMA jammed their communications as the storm hit.

02:09:10.000 Then after five days they went in and confiscated guns even in high and dry wealthy areas.

02:09:14.000 We played the video of that.

02:09:15.000 You've seen it online.

02:09:16.000 You've seen it on national television.

02:09:19.000 To the point of the R.A.

02:09:20.000 is trying to get national laws passed just saying please don't confiscate our guns during emergencies.

02:09:26.000 There are congressmen saying confiscating guns during emergencies are good.

02:09:29.000 There's a state rep in Oklahoma saying gun confiscation is good and needs to happen during emergencies.

02:09:37.000 I had a head professor on from the Homeland Security Department of a major university in Tennessee.

02:09:43.000 They're in Knoxville just a few months ago, remember?

02:09:45.000 And he admitted that he's the head volunteer of this program recruiting people to fight terror and crime, to report on their neighbors.

02:09:53.000 All of this is going on.

02:09:54.000 Now, under FEMA, we know they have a program to, quote, reach out to the churches.

02:09:59.000 And you see the billboards about, quote, get ready.

02:10:04.000 Ready.gov and all this, and the surface is just get ready for your house to be prepared and what to do in an emergency, have some food.

02:10:11.000 But when you actually go to these meetings, we've been to these in Austin, we have video of this.

02:10:15.000 The Ritter shot video of it, but wouldn't let me have it for a film for some reason.

02:10:18.000 Maybe I should beg them again, let them, get them to give it to me.

02:10:20.000 But it's the same stuff in that terror manual from Texas.

02:10:23.000 The Feds wrote about people wearing blue jeans, people that have cell phones, people that are nice to the police, those that make frequent references to the U.S.

02:10:31.000 Constitution.

02:10:31.000 That's in the Arizona manual.

02:10:33.000 The Virginia manual says Everything in it.

02:10:35.000 It says, uh, property rights activist.

02:10:38.000 Manuals in Michigan say all homeschoolers are terrorists.

02:10:41.000 Federal manuals, like Project Megiddo, say it.

02:10:44.000 It's all there!

02:10:45.000 And I appreciate the pastor holding while I set this up.

02:10:48.000 We have the documents.

02:10:49.000 They've been confirmed by Pastor Butch and other pastors.

02:10:52.000 This pastor is at senior level in this now as a patriot informant, a spy against these enemies.

02:11:00.000 And we'll call him Pastor Revere.

02:11:02.000 He's in Ohio.

02:11:03.000 That's as much as we'll tell you.

02:11:05.000 He joins us now to give you inside details of the oath they give to FEMA.

02:11:10.000 Because people know the preachers are trusted.

02:11:13.000 And they're setting the preachers up as Judas Iscariot, Judas goats.

02:11:17.000 A Judas goat, for those that raise goats or sheep, is the ram. 0.86

02:11:21.000 And he's a ram that is trusted by the other goats or sheep, depending on what species.

02:11:26.000 But you've got rams in both varieties.

02:11:28.000 You've got the billy goats in both varieties.

02:11:31.000 And they are trained to lead occasionally for the slaughter or the sale, because people do also slaughter these for meat, lamb chops or goat.

02:11:38.000 Again, these two different species.

02:11:41.000 But they have them, again, both in goats and sheep.

02:11:43.000 And I'm getting too technical on that.

02:11:44.000 The point is it leads them in to be sheared. 0.98

02:11:46.000 It leads them in to be killed. 0.86

02:11:47.000 It leads them in to be sold. 0.95

02:11:49.000 And that's what they're trying to do.

02:11:51.000 It is so devilish.

02:11:52.000 And we are pleased to be joined by Pastor Revere.

02:11:56.000 I'm giving him that name.

02:11:57.000 Pastor, thank you for coming on with us, sir.

02:11:59.000 It's a definite pleasure to do this.

02:12:01.000 I appreciate you letting me give folks the background on this.

02:12:03.000 Tell us as much about yourself, what you first heard from them, the documents, the oath, what you've been witnessing.

02:12:10.000 I'll try not to make it lengthy, but you know how that is.

02:12:12.000 No sir, we've got the whole hour and you've got the time.

02:12:15.000 Take your time.

02:12:16.000 Brother, I've got the time.

02:12:17.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:12:18.000 In March of this year, I was invited to attend a meeting, a local meeting of the Emergency Management Agency.

02:12:24.000 We call it the local FEMA people.

02:12:25.000 I was invited to come because I had done disaster relief work with another church denominational group years ago, and I wanted to see what was going on.

02:12:33.000 They were planning for Any kind of bioterrorism, they said, so I wanted to find out what it was, it being FEMA.

02:12:39.000 And since we know the director, it got me in real good.

02:12:41.000 Again, I want to add, on the surface it all sounds reasonable, oh just emergency planning, that's on the billboards in the literature.

02:12:48.000 You go to these meetings, tell us what happened.

02:12:50.000 It was wonderful stuff when they started out, but it immediately turned into, this is for a natural disaster, a tornado flood, or any act of bioterrorism, or a nationally declared emergency.

02:13:03.000 And so I lit up to that one, and the spokesperson there was from the state FEMA office, who also was the trainer for pastors in their training program for pastors.

02:13:12.000 He said, your job, pastors, is to get to your congregations and preach to them Romans 13.

02:13:19.000 And that's the part that says you obey the higher powers.

02:13:22.000 And he was saying you have to teach them to obey their government.

02:13:25.000 By the way, Hitler did that. 0.93

02:13:27.000 He had a court of preachers that preached Romans 13 out of context.

02:13:32.000 Yes, he did.

02:13:33.000 And this is what he wanted us to do.

02:13:35.000 And so he's telling us that he's telling us and the thing that really got us started on this and when I started contacting people is when he said the problem with with local enforcement of a federal or state mandate that is quarantine or relocation is These are the terms he used for a declaration of martial law based on whatever disaster it might be.

02:13:56.000 He said martial law, let's be clear.

02:13:58.000 Yes, he did.

02:13:59.000 And he said if it goes the distance, the problem is all along the way is this so-called cowboy mentality.

02:14:06.000 And you pastors are going to have to learn to quell that cowboy mentality.

02:14:10.000 And so I asked him what he meant.

02:14:11.000 He said, you know, the individualistic effort that stands up and says, this is my property, you'll prize guns from my cold, dead hand kind of thing.

02:14:18.000 And everybody laughed.

02:14:19.000 There were only about six people there.

02:14:20.000 And he said, we're not talking about law enforcement.

02:14:23.000 That's a law enforcement issue.

02:14:24.000 We're talking about you pastors going there because you know the people, you all are trusted.

02:14:29.000 And you'll be preaching this ahead of time.

02:14:30.000 You can stand in the neighborhoods and tell people this is for their own good.

02:14:34.000 Gotta stop you!

02:14:36.000 You would have been preaching this ahead of time.

02:14:38.000 Folks, this means they're going with it.

02:14:41.000 And this is happening nationwide.

02:14:43.000 We know there's this FEMA preacher leadership program going on.

02:14:46.000 We know we've talked to other preachers now since Butch Paul broke this a few months ago with you, Pastor.

02:14:52.000 This is real, folks.

02:14:53.000 This is so evil.

02:14:55.000 Please continue.

02:14:55.000 This is deadly real.

02:14:57.000 And that was our first meeting.

02:14:58.000 The second meeting pretty much carried it through with our responsibility as pastors is to have training.

02:15:05.000 And this man, who is a Seventh-day Adventist pastor, he's also on a national organization for disaster relief.

02:15:12.000 He's also working with DHS and FEMA.

02:15:15.000 He's on their payroll.

02:15:16.000 We just found this out last week.

02:15:18.000 He said that your pastor's job is going to be to deal with the individuals, not just in counseling, But you're going to have to control some folks who may not be so cooperative.

02:15:28.000 He said, but that's going to be a law enforcement issue.

02:15:30.000 You'll be backed by that.

02:15:31.000 And he said, besides, pastors aren't trained to handle everything.

02:15:36.000 Imagine preachers leading SWAT teams.

02:15:40.000 I mean, we're talking... Go ahead.

02:15:43.000 That's terrible, isn't it?

02:15:44.000 But that's the picture we get.

02:15:46.000 We get the picture that we, me and others who are aware of this, We're going to be standing at some farmer's end of his lane while he's standing there with his double barrel, wherever he's got.

02:15:56.000 Telling him to lay the arms down.

02:15:58.000 They have to confiscate your cows, your chickens, your... And he's got to be relocated to a camp.

02:16:02.000 Now for those who don't know, right here in Austin we've confirmed some of the biggest churches are now FEMA officers secretly.

02:16:10.000 Now imagine how Soviet this is. 0.86

02:16:12.000 How Red Dawn this is.

02:16:14.000 Where you go to church and little do you know, this guy is an actual servant of the Antichrist beast system.

02:16:22.000 Exactly right.

02:16:23.000 And this is what's so frightening.

02:16:24.000 It started out, he made it sound like it was a local thing that we were doing, and we're the pioneers, we're the first ones.

02:16:30.000 They always say that!

02:16:31.000 They always say that.

02:16:32.000 And I knew it was coming.

02:16:34.000 Just last week there was training for pastors, which we'll get into at some point.

02:16:37.000 I haven't asked you the training manual.

02:16:40.000 The training manual pretty much Keeps pastors down by telling us we cannot handle all these mental health issues.

02:16:46.000 Now, I know Butch has some of that.

02:16:47.000 If you were during a break, Pastor, can you... I got some of those, but can you fax that to me during a break?

02:16:53.000 If I give you the number?

02:16:54.000 I sure try to do that, yes.

02:16:56.000 Yes, go ahead, sir.

02:16:58.000 That'll be great.

02:16:59.000 We were told then that we can't handle everything, so there'll be the professionals there helping us out.

02:17:03.000 But we were told we would have to take mental health training.

02:17:07.000 And to make it palatable to the other pastors, and these are their words now, that we won't call it mental health, we'll call it spiritual care.

02:17:14.000 And so they've renamed everything.

02:17:15.000 Instead of mental health and disaster relief, it's spiritual care.

02:17:19.000 When we get back, we'll get into the fourth drugging.

02:17:22.000 Armed squads with breachers there to brainwash the public with pills to make you submit.

02:17:30.000 It doesn't get any more Soviet than this. 0.84

02:17:32.000 Stay there, Pastor.

02:17:32.000 I know I'm ranting.

02:17:33.000 This is just so upsetting.

02:17:35.000 This is 11th hour.

02:17:38.000 Nationwide, it's going on right now.

02:17:40.000 We'll be right back.

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02:21:48.000 national program of the federal emergency management agency to turn leading pastors priest rabbis you name it and the secret police enforcers Gun confiscation, martial law.

02:22:01.000 Remember, in my film Road to Tyranny, I haven't asked the pastor if he's seen this, we have FEMA in Kansas City months before 9-11 saying the Founding Fathers are terrorists, all Christians are terrorists, And basically how we're the enemy and have to die.

02:22:16.000 So this is bone chilling.

02:22:18.000 This is the martial law arm.

02:22:19.000 That's always been FEMA's job since 1979.

02:22:22.000 Now they're really beefing up to do it.

02:22:24.000 Pastor, please continue with how you guys have to be mental health, but that isn't good, so it'll be called spiritual care with another Orwellian term.

02:22:33.000 Right, and they use all kinds of terms for us.

02:22:37.000 They told us that in the event of a quarantine, and they were already saying, you don't quarantine for the bird flu, but they're making arrangements for that, they being the groups that we're dealing with now.

02:22:47.000 They aren't using the term quarantine, but this is the term they're going to be using.

02:22:50.000 It's called social distancing.

02:22:52.000 Don't you like that one?

02:22:54.000 Social distancing.

02:22:55.000 Well, it's like getting rid of the military as a build-down.

02:22:58.000 Yes, it is right, a build-down.

02:23:00.000 Don't you love that?

02:23:02.000 Well, you mentioned about drugging, forced drugging.

02:23:04.000 Can I speak to that one?

02:23:05.000 Because that was brought up in one of our meetings.

02:23:07.000 Please, Pastor.

02:23:08.000 They said that the role of the health district, locally and countywide, would be to provide public information, prevent the spread of disease, and in the event of any outbreak, bioterrorists, whatever they have, That there would be a mass vaccination and prophylaxis.

02:23:22.000 And they have a term, they have a program called, this is national, this is not just our local, Pills in People's Palms in 48 hours.

02:23:29.000 PPP in 48 hours.

02:23:32.000 Walmart has volunteered, going back four years ago, to be the distribution centers for all this.

02:23:37.000 Exactly right.

02:23:38.000 We were told that if the Walmart stores, we were told that if all these other stores, They're getting involved in this because there's such a horrendous fear of the bird flu.

02:23:48.000 And so immediately we went from the focus on some type of natural disaster to the bird flu and they're pushing up their timeline to get everything done by August 31st.

02:24:00.000 And so they're having a flurry of these meetings locally here and elsewhere.

02:24:05.000 The gentleman who trained us confirmed that by saying that this is the man who works for FEMA, that he's on the payroll.

02:24:11.000 He said he was just at a meeting in North Carolina where 26 states were represented.

02:24:18.000 And he goes, we're very excited that this program, pastor training, mental health, all this, is getting down to the county level in at least 13,250 counties nationwide.

02:24:28.000 And they're talking in the month of June and July.

02:24:30.000 Now, whenever they have Urban Warfare training drills for conditioning for martial law, which their own documents admit, they always tell the town, you're the first, you're special, as they told you, and then they tell you a few months in, oh, by the way, it's 13,000 counties.

02:24:43.000 Right.

02:24:43.000 They had us, they had these guys sitting there believing this, they were all puffed up.

02:24:46.000 And I was, I read right through it, because I listened to you, I know others, been doing this for years.

02:24:52.000 They're not going to play games with me at least, but it's interesting to be there and listen to this information that they're spitting out.

02:24:59.000 Any other key things they're saying?

02:25:01.000 Because I want to make the point, they can have a small burp for release, create the hysteria, lock down a state, then claim it was successful, to beta test it for the next big event that will be the big one.

02:25:11.000 Exactly right.

02:25:11.000 They mentioned that one of the reasons that they're really pushing pastors to get on board is that we can help recruit other people for Citizen Corps.

02:25:20.000 And Citizen Corps will be the guys who are going around checking doors kind of thing.

02:25:25.000 And they said the benefit of being in Citizen Corps for pastors and also locals is this, that it will put you on a higher list for antivirals or vaccinations.

02:25:36.000 In other words, if you volunteer, you get vaccinated and get your pills first and so does your family.

02:25:41.000 You don't volunteer, you don't get the drugs.

02:25:44.000 And more than that, you'll get the food shipments during an emergency if you've got the little I'm a Minion badge.

02:25:49.000 And at the same time, at the same... Please continue.

02:25:52.000 No, sure.

02:25:53.000 You're exactly right, because they talked about these centers.

02:25:55.000 They're not calling them relocations.

02:25:57.000 Three months ago, it was relocation quarantine centers, and now it's community aid centers.

02:26:02.000 And these are going to be activated at the local schools, and they said this is where the Citizen Corps volunteers will be.

02:26:07.000 And that's why they're putting fences up around schools, making them mini-prisons with cameras, doors that automatically lock down with wire mesh in the windows.

02:26:15.000 These are prisons.

02:26:16.000 Right, and where we are, they have the roads circuited off that in the event of some kind of quarantine, some relocation, they know what roads to This is bombshell after bombshell.

02:26:28.000 In the article we write, we'll put all these bullet points.

02:26:30.000 They already have the choke points and the lockdowns ready.

02:26:33.000 Yes, they do.

02:26:33.000 And this is one of the more frightening things, is that they're passing this off as for the common good.

02:26:39.000 It's the typical garbage drivel you've heard all these years, but they're so bold about it. 0.68

02:26:43.000 And now, when they're bringing pastors in, there's so many pastors who are so desperate for church growth at any cost, that they're jumping on the bandwagon here. 0.97

02:26:51.000 They want their name out front in this.

02:26:53.000 They want their church name out front.

02:26:54.000 Well, I want to add that when the economy implodes by design, many people will be forced to take jobs with a paltry payment.

02:27:01.000 Instead of make-works like Roosevelt had building dams, the make-work is going to be little armed security guards.

02:27:07.000 Yes, it is.

02:27:08.000 Stay there, Pastor.

02:27:09.000 I want to continue with all the other facets of this.

02:27:11.000 We're going to get a huge report out on this tonight or tomorrow.

02:27:15.000 You're faxing us the documents.

02:27:16.000 We have some of the other documents as well, and some of the national announcements about this program.

02:27:22.000 All around you, how many of your preachers are on the payroll?

02:27:25.000 How many are being brainwashed to tell you to submit to gun confiscation and martial law?

02:27:31.000 You wonder why your preacher's telling you all this stuff?

02:27:33.000 Because they're on the payroll.

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02:31:00.000 Callers, we're going to open the phones up here in a few minutes for specific questions about martial law and the takeover program we're discussing.

02:31:08.000 With this pastor from Ohio.

02:31:10.000 We have the documents, we're getting more of the documents, we have mainstream news articles about the program, but we're giving you the inside scoop of the details and I'm telling you it all checks out with the information I have in the past.

02:31:20.000 We're going to write an article, I think it should have the title like, National Secret FEMA Program Recruiting Preachers to Prepare and Pacify Public for Martial Law.

02:31:37.000 And then sub-headline, Relocation Camps, Forced Inoculations, these are the new, this ties into the, this ties into the Houston Chronicle, the Emergency FEMA Camps, all of this, we need to put in the article, all the past FEMA and state emergency manuals, we need to put in there the CLIP for Martial Law, where the firefighter and police are in the group, they're in Kansas City, we're on the air right now, God bless KCXL, folks who support them, one of our oldest and best affiliates.

02:32:06.000 A firefighter there locally sent me the video of a room full of police and firemen being taught that all Christians are terrorists, Founding Fathers are terrorists.

02:32:12.000 I mean, this sounds crazy, but this is really going on behind the scenes everywhere.

02:32:17.000 And we also need in this article, we're going to write to challenge all the listeners of this show to take these documents that we're going to be posting tonight and tomorrow in this article To print off the documents, to print off the news article we're going to write, to print off the mainstream news articles, to put them in folders, to take it to their preacher, and if the preacher doesn't respond in a week, say, are you part of this?

02:32:37.000 Have you heard of this?

02:32:38.000 What are you going to do on this?

02:32:39.000 To stand up in the church, to make up a hundred folders, or fifty folders, or five hundred, however many are in your church, hand them out, stand up and yell and say, argue on the payroll!

02:32:49.000 What are you doing?

02:32:50.000 Why are you being a Judas goat? 1.00

02:32:52.000 And I mean, break that church up! 0.96

02:32:54.000 Leave that church!

02:32:55.000 This is an emergency!

02:32:58.000 Now, I'm actually giving orders here to my webmasters and writers right now.

02:33:01.000 That's how much I work, how fast I work, how much I work.

02:33:03.000 We literally have to combine that into the broadcast.

02:33:07.000 Paul Watson, I know you're listening.

02:33:09.000 You do such a fabulous job.

02:33:10.000 I want a huge, detailed report on this.

02:33:12.000 I know you're busy writing a book right now that we're doing.

02:33:14.000 I know you're busy updating the site, doing customer service, everything.

02:33:17.000 I need more.

02:33:19.000 I mean, you understand, folks, I love my family.

02:33:22.000 I realize this is a takeover.

02:33:23.000 Going back to the pastor from Ohio, we're not giving you his name.

02:33:26.000 He's been made a leader in this group.

02:33:27.000 He's there spying on all this for us.

02:33:29.000 God bless him.

02:33:30.000 He's a modern Paul Revere.

02:33:31.000 I call him Pastor Revere.

02:33:33.000 Pastor, the statements I've just made, do you agree with that idea of getting people, getting their facts together, going to their pastors, assistant pastors, and finding out if this is going on?

02:33:43.000 In fact, at first, maybe being friendly about it before you give them the document and to see if this is going on.

02:33:48.000 Pastor, do you agree with that?

02:33:50.000 I think it works well.

02:33:52.000 In our county, it would work real well because I have the names of those pastors who signed up and made the pledge.

02:33:56.000 That would really help us out.

02:33:58.000 That's my advantage.

02:33:59.000 But I think it would be a great idea to put something together so people can confront their pastors.

02:34:03.000 They should know already how they feel about it, but sometimes these things sneak in on people.

02:34:09.000 But these guys are signing up.

02:34:10.000 Pastor, I have friends who attend big Baptist churches in Austin, two big ones.

02:34:14.000 Two years ago, three years ago, one of them brought me a document.

02:34:17.000 And it said, during the upcoming election, this was like in early 2004, this was about two years ago, do not talk about politics at lunch.

02:34:25.000 Do not talk about politics with anyone in Sunday school or anywhere in the church.

02:34:29.000 It is not proper.

02:34:30.000 And then now they're being told that the preachers are getting up and saying, we must submit to the government.

02:34:34.000 Bad things are coming.

02:34:36.000 They know best.

02:34:38.000 New Orleans was good.

02:34:39.000 I mean, this is really going on.

02:34:41.000 These people need to get out of those churches.

02:34:43.000 They aren't going to change anything like that.

02:34:45.000 They fire a pastor.

02:34:46.000 It's already there. 0.99

02:34:48.000 Those things are just ridiculous. 0.95

02:34:50.000 We have those guys here. 0.97

02:34:51.000 It happens here as well, too.

02:34:53.000 We're in farm country, basically.

02:34:56.000 Well, I think the people who failed to know our history, those in power, know it all too well.

02:34:59.000 coast now they're going to lead the destruction of America well I think the people have failed to know our history those in power know it all too well and they know who to subvert they know who to co-op and they go after the pastors I mean, what better group of people to get in there and get them to change?

02:35:16.000 So you're right.

02:35:17.000 The revolution was led by pastors, and now what do we see here?

02:35:21.000 Well, under the faith-based initiative, $10 billion a year to start to pay off churches, are they promising money down the road during an emergency?

02:35:30.000 No, they haven't even mentioned anything like that, but I'll tell you now, there are several guys who are involved who are already getting money from the faith-based thing, and I mean as far as getting the outward money.

02:35:40.000 They've been turned on to grants by our government and said, look, this is where you can get your grants for this program.

02:35:45.000 So when you do this, the skids get greased?

02:35:48.000 Yeah, exactly right.

02:35:49.000 Well, they're already going to give us the first line for drugs if we do it right, so money's not going to be an object to them at all.

02:35:56.000 Uh, but this is how they're doing it.

02:35:58.000 They're doing it, and right now they're feeding off the prestige of these people, how these pastors want to be stroked by the secular world.

02:36:04.000 And they tell them, you're a leader!

02:36:05.000 You're gonna be a leader!

02:36:06.000 Oh, yes.

02:36:07.000 Well, I'm waiting for them to use the term Vanguard.

02:36:09.000 I'm waiting for that to come up.

02:36:10.000 I don't think it'll come up eventually.

02:36:11.000 Well, Pastor, I've been ranting and raving here, but I think we all should be upset.

02:36:17.000 Can we get into the Loyalty Oath required?

02:36:19.000 I have an article here out of Loyalty Oath required of Illinois FEMA volunteers.

02:36:24.000 They're now getting students, politicians, pastors.

02:36:27.000 Can you get into the Loyalty Oath that you were given?

02:36:31.000 Same loyalty oath, and a lot of us rebelled against that one.

02:36:34.000 A lot of us being those who just heard about it, didn't think it was a good idea, but what they've said is, you don't have to make the pledge, all you gotta do is make an affirmation, and everybody was happy.

02:36:45.000 I'm not kidding.

02:36:46.000 And the pledge, basically, if you've got a copy of it... But that's what Hitler did! 0.86

02:36:49.000 They just lined him up and said, raise your right hand.

02:36:51.000 Sure, just raise your right hand.

02:36:52.000 You can say, affirm, you can say, you can say, pledge, you can say, I agree.

02:36:56.000 Anything you want to say that makes you happy.

02:36:58.000 Because some Christians know they shouldn't be taking oaths.

02:37:01.000 Well, they go against the oath and call it something else.

02:37:03.000 It's a pledge.

02:37:04.000 It's an honoring of the oath.

02:37:05.000 It's all lawyer word games.

02:37:07.000 Again, they call the Patriot Act the Patriot Act.

02:37:10.000 They call drugging half the kids new freedom. 0.99

02:37:12.000 It's ridiculous.

02:37:14.000 Well, this loyalty oath basically says that while you're on duty under the protection, that we get workers' comp through that.

02:37:23.000 So if we're injured in disaster relief or someone shoots us because we're trying to get in their farm, that we're covered and that we promise not to overthrow the government or actually participate while we're on the payroll, which is basically the payroll is workers' comp.

02:37:38.000 Now the problem with that, of course, you can see as far as I go, you're not supposed to be with any group that advocates the overthrow of the government while you're on that time so pastors who go there and if they happen to be like myself but i'm not going to serve serve with them but you know who happen to have some allegiances that would be contrary to what they see that could be classified as a terrorist group my christians already are classified as terrorists i want to back up just a moment yes notice at first it's hey come on in Then, oh, it's for bird flu.

02:38:07.000 And then by a month into it, oh, it's for people that want to fight us or overthrow us.

02:38:13.000 What is the government planning that they know there's going to be mass physical revolts?

02:38:18.000 You know, I talked with Brother Butch about this and just briefly mentioned this.

02:38:22.000 You know, it's like Y2K. 0.98

02:38:24.000 Everybody was happy when nothing happened, but actually something did happen.

02:38:27.000 The government got just what they wanted.

02:38:29.000 Everybody's online, everybody's networked, everybody's being watched.

02:38:32.000 Well, they're going to do the same thing with this if they don't take it to the next level.

02:38:36.000 They'll be happy with 70-80% of what they want now.

02:38:40.000 And people are sitting scared.

02:38:41.000 I mean, I raise chickens and I have them in my backyard.

02:38:45.000 We don't live in a subdivision, we live in a country.

02:38:48.000 But there are people already panicked, because we have chickens in my backyard, and they're calling the authorities.

02:38:52.000 I'm serious.

02:38:53.000 Because they know who to call.

02:38:55.000 They've watched the news, they know all about it.

02:38:56.000 And it's about bringing in an atmosphere of fear.

02:38:58.000 That's what it is.

02:38:59.000 Burn flu doesn't even need to break out.

02:39:01.000 It's just always ratcheting it up, any smoke screen, to create the secret tattletale squads.

02:39:06.000 Right, and we live in a place where people should come to your door and say, hey, I live next door, down the road, how you doing, blah, blah, blah.

02:39:13.000 They don't do that anymore.

02:39:14.000 That's being taken away for this fear, and people are now resting upon the authorities.

02:39:18.000 And they're everywhere.

02:39:19.000 I mean, these people are everywhere, knocking on doors, telling people, hey, your neighbor had a complaint against this, this, and this.

02:39:25.000 It's just getting out of hand, but this is what people want, a dependency upon the authorities.

02:39:31.000 Pastor, please get more into this hysteria, this tattletaling that's going on.

02:39:36.000 I'm sorry, say that again.

02:39:38.000 Cut off here by calling.

02:39:40.000 I mean, get more into that.

02:39:42.000 Who's knocking on doors?

02:39:43.000 What's going on?

02:39:44.000 What's happening is that neighbors complain against neighbors, and then they call the local sheriff, or they call the health department, or they call some other agency, and they're knocking on doors already, and people are already of the mindset accepting that kind of authority and that kind of law enforcement.

02:40:02.000 So what I'm saying is, When it comes down to a real disaster, that's who they're going to turn to.

02:40:07.000 They're already being told, don't handle things yourself, get rid of the neighborhood quality.

02:40:11.000 Well, this is all just drilling us for Marshall Long.

02:40:14.000 Yes.

02:40:14.000 Well, you know, I'm sure you're quite aware that they have a policy called, a program called Peer to Peer, and that was under FEMA, it was under DHS, Department of Homeland Security.

02:40:25.000 And now it's been turned over to this National Volunteer Organization and Disaster Relief, where they train neighbors, or they train a family or a home in one neighborhood to pretty much oversee the neighborhood.

02:40:37.000 And that's called peer-to-peer.

02:40:39.000 And what they're doing is they're training more or less brownshirts to sit in a neighborhood. 0.97

02:40:43.000 If something goes wrong, they're to go and talk to the neighbors.

02:40:46.000 They're like the neighborhood watch groups.

02:40:48.000 Well, Pastor, four years ago I didn't believe it, and then I confirmed it in federal payment orders.

02:40:54.000 Prima Copp, the former head of the KGB, was hired by Homeland Security before it even got funding. 0.86

02:41:02.000 At the same time, Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi, was hired for consulting.

02:41:07.000 This isn't a joke.

02:41:08.000 This is really happening.

02:41:10.000 Yes, it is.

02:41:11.000 Yes, it is happening, and it's not It's not being hidden anymore.

02:41:17.000 This makes the front page of our paper here.

02:41:19.000 So the neighbors aren't concerned about open borders.

02:41:22.000 They don't mind buying chicken at the store.

02:41:24.000 There's no bird flu here.

02:41:26.000 They're just running around afraid of chickens hopping around in your backyard.

02:41:29.000 That and they're afraid of everything.

02:41:32.000 I mean, we live in rural Ohio.

02:41:34.000 We're talking about everybody has some kind of weapon, you know, and now it's creeping up here where we need a little more gun control.

02:41:41.000 We need a little more of this.

02:41:42.000 And this isn't a place where We are pretty much independent, fiercely independent, I guess what we used to be.

02:41:48.000 But what we're seeing in here, it's happening all over the country, and I believe it's just a mindset being produced by years and years of consciously getting on television, making things look the worst.

02:41:59.000 People are starting to buy it now, because now it's coming home.

02:42:02.000 People can stop guns from coming to their front door, but the flu, they have a problem with that.

02:42:06.000 A lot of people call it the sixth sense, I call it discernment.

02:42:11.000 And this is, the globalists play a trick, and I want to see if you can, you sound like a very intelligent man, probably smarter than I am, so you can probably get what I'm saying if I'm able to put it out there properly.

02:42:22.000 Let me try to phrase this the best I can.

02:42:26.000 People deep down know something's wrong.

02:42:29.000 They know we're in great danger.

02:42:31.000 The government, psychological warfare experts, know that we know something's wrong.

02:42:35.000 And the problem is them, the globalists.

02:42:38.000 And so they put out these fake things, which deep down we know are fake.

02:42:43.000 Exactly right.

02:42:44.000 crises but we know something real is scary going on and they misdirect our energies that are really aware of them into something else so I think a lot of the fear is people know something's wrong and it's the government so the government misdirects it onto their neighbors and other people do you see what I'm saying exactly right and that and that puts the government in charge they call that a spirit don't they yes it is a spirit of A spirit of fear and enslavement.

02:43:10.000 Yes, it is.

02:43:11.000 And this is what you're exactly right.

02:43:15.000 This is what the government does.

02:43:16.000 This is the powers that be.

02:43:18.000 They can't enforce their authority, but they sure can win the hearts and minds of people by putting a fear into them.

02:43:24.000 And they misdirect it, and it gets put on someone else, and people feel like they've accomplished something.

02:43:30.000 When they see a sheriff show up at a door for a minor infraction, they know they can do that when it's a major infraction.

02:43:35.000 And I'm not saying you shouldn't call the authorities sometimes, but my goodness, these people do this all the time to everybody in this country.

02:43:41.000 And they think that's the way it should be, so our government has misdirected it, and they've stolen that power.

02:43:47.000 And now they're going to have the real Animal ID Act, where there are $2,000 a day fines, enforcers, microchips and everything.

02:43:54.000 It's really happening.

02:43:55.000 We have our 4-H department here in our county and our state saying that's the best thing to come along, to chip our animals.

02:44:02.000 And we have kids, students, who've been raised, we homeschool our kids, that we do things very independent-minded.

02:44:09.000 And no one's going to chip anything we have.

02:44:11.000 And the rule is, by 2008, your animals aren't chipped and logged, you don't show them at the fair.

02:44:17.000 So kids are out of 4-H.

02:44:19.000 But our authorities just think it's the greatest thing on two feet.

02:44:22.000 They just love it.

02:44:24.000 So, I don't understand what's going on, but that's what they do.

02:44:27.000 And they run that authority over.

02:44:28.000 Well, it's simple psychology.

02:44:30.000 They send the feds in to give them a grant, and they say, you're smart.

02:44:32.000 You're good.

02:44:33.000 You're going to run this.

02:44:34.000 And the person goes, I am?

02:44:37.000 I want to take some calls.

02:44:39.000 Who's up first for the pastor?

02:44:43.000 Scott and KC, you're on the air with the pastor.

02:44:45.000 Go ahead.

02:44:46.000 Hey Alex, first time caller.

02:44:48.000 I appreciate what you're doing there, Pastor, exposing what's really going on here.

02:44:54.000 Do you happen to have any kind of idea what timeline?

02:44:58.000 I know you said they're trying to get this all implemented by August 31st, I believe you said.

02:45:03.000 I mean, it seems like I've heard people say some kind of attack on Iran in October and maybe some kind of catalyst here that would, you know, start this into the process.

02:45:19.000 It seems like there's many drills running the first part of June.

02:45:25.000 I know they're planning on detonating a large nuke out in Las Vegas.

02:45:30.000 It's supposed to be seen from Las Vegas.

02:45:33.000 That's conventional.

02:45:37.000 Well I think that's going to be shown to Iran as a deterrent of what's going to happen to them if they don't stop their nuke program or their oil bourse program that they just started. 0.97

02:45:49.000 Let me add something to what you're saying that you can go on and the pastor can comment.

02:45:53.000 They have deadlines and then those come and go and then there's the next goal, the next goal.

02:45:58.000 So a lot of times it doesn't mean that the deadline of August whatever means that's when it's going to happen.

02:46:03.000 That means that that's the deadline for part one of the program, then they'll just keep expanding it.

02:46:09.000 Exactly right, and that's what I wanted to comment on.

02:46:12.000 Our local EMA director said August 31st is when all the counties in the United States are supposed to be online with their disaster relief program, and that includes the training, the completed training of pastors.

02:46:24.000 And she goes, we don't expect anything to happen until October or November with the bird flu, but then that's an interesting date for you to bring up, Scott, to say that we're talking October or something there.

02:46:35.000 There's so much going around, but the They just want things in place, just like Alex has said, so that they take that next step.

02:46:42.000 And once we're happy with August 31st, hey, we have a disaster plan in effect, thank God we don't have to use it, that's not the right attitude.

02:46:49.000 Because they're going to go for more, and this is where it has to be stopped, right here at the beginning.

02:46:53.000 Because once they accomplish something, they're going to keep pushing for more.

02:46:56.000 Well, I predict Phase 2 will be identifying terrorists, and they'll give you, oh, they told you that?

02:47:02.000 Exactly right.

02:47:02.000 Because they're looking at We're having the second part of the training in June and that's where we deal with crowd control kind of issues.

02:47:10.000 That's my term.

02:47:11.000 Their term is unruly people who won't follow directions.

02:47:14.000 And that's where they're going to talk about suspected bioterrorism.

02:47:19.000 Because we're in farm country, they're looking at animals and crops.

02:47:21.000 Oh yes, there's just terrorists everywhere to launch bioattacks.

02:47:24.000 They want to come right here to my little county and do their thing.

02:47:28.000 And we just laugh about it, you know, but I understand why they want to do it.

02:47:31.000 Well, the British government released foot-and-mouth.

02:47:33.000 That's admitted, back of the paper, but it's admitted, so... Sure, and that's something that they were really hot on with syphilis mouth disease and saying that if that breaks out here, He said you're going to see a quarantine.

02:47:44.000 Nobody's seen a quarantine.

02:47:45.000 Well, they use that to get states to pass martial law provisions.

02:47:48.000 Then it's SARS.

02:47:49.000 Then it's smallpox.

02:47:52.000 Then it's bird flu.

02:47:53.000 It's always some new crises until they really do it.

02:47:56.000 And he has referred to, the trainer has referred to the fact that laws are already in effect now.

02:48:02.000 That it would just take a call from the local FEMA director, the FEMA director to get things started.

02:48:08.000 That's page 76 of Homeland Security.

02:48:10.000 Yeah, it's very, very simple.

02:48:11.000 It's already there.

02:48:12.000 And they're happy with that kind of status.

02:48:14.000 They enjoy that power.

02:48:16.000 And it is up to them. 1.00

02:48:17.000 These are sick people. 0.90

02:48:18.000 And of course, they're going to have no future either. 1.00

02:48:20.000 These fools will later beat their breasts wishing, crying they'd done something. 1.00

02:48:26.000 Yes. 1.00

02:48:28.000 Serving evil is always very destructive, especially to those that are active in it.

02:48:32.000 You think you're going to be safe.

02:48:33.000 See, people have this subconscious fear.

02:48:35.000 They know the government's evil, and the government goes, yes, you've got a fear because of terrorism.

02:48:39.000 We're going to save you.

02:48:40.000 Thank you, caller.

02:48:41.000 We'll be right back with the pastor's final segment.

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02:53:05.000 Pastor, I want to keep you five minutes to the next hour and then let you go, but I want to take a call here in just a second, but any other key points that we haven't covered that you want to add about the training?

02:53:15.000 And then my last question, I will give you after the break, I want you to answer it after the break, and that is, what some of the other pastors you've talked to, are some of them waking up, or are they all just You got the spirit of the devil in them?

02:53:26.000 Are they deceived going along with this?

02:53:29.000 But anything else you want to add?

02:53:30.000 Briefly, just some of the things that they tell pastors, and for pastors who are called to preach the Word of God, we're being told that in a time of crisis that we just can't use the Bible.

02:53:42.000 And these pastors are just sucking this up, and they're telling us that If you're going to use the Bible, just set it down next to you.

02:53:48.000 Don't really quote from it.

02:53:49.000 This is not a time to bring Jesus into the situation.

02:53:52.000 Because they're getting you ready.

02:53:54.000 Yes.

02:53:54.000 They're getting you ready to be total federal employees.

02:53:57.000 And these, at the top, these are demonic individuals, and they know that that name would probably screw up what they're doing.

02:54:03.000 Absolutely right.

02:54:04.000 And these... Hello?

02:54:06.000 Yes, Pastor, go ahead.

02:54:07.000 And what frightens me is to see these people, these pastors, sit there and take this and take the training and nod their heads.

02:54:14.000 And so they're telling you, don't bring the Bible into it.

02:54:16.000 Yeah, and they're just having a good time with it.

02:54:18.000 So that's one of the points I wanted to bring up.

02:54:20.000 There's several things you'll get on the facts, which you're handling in the next five minutes, that'll get there.

02:54:25.000 Several comments I've written down from instructors, several things they say on the training, that pretty much speak to that same issue.

02:54:32.000 Let me just get the question out now, then we'll go to the call.

02:54:34.000 What are other pastors you're around saying?

02:54:37.000 Are any of them saying this for what it is, or are they just sucking it up?

02:54:40.000 Well, the ones who are coming to the training, they all love it.

02:54:43.000 I'm not taking the opportunity to go out and question pastors yet, because I'm still getting information.

02:54:47.000 I want to go to the meetings as long as I can before I tip my hand.

02:54:51.000 It's still, it's only May, but we're looking at June for, they're having a disaster drill in June.

02:54:56.000 Here with all the stuff in place.

02:54:58.000 So I want to see how that goes.

02:55:00.000 And these drills are meant, and they happen in every town, every city, to raise the hysteria level as real.

02:55:05.000 Because the subconscious mind sees these drills as real.

02:55:08.000 And I've been to them.

02:55:09.000 They'll splatter fake blood on the children. 1.00

02:55:11.000 At some of them they have men with machine guns screaming, I'm a homeschooler, I'm a Christian, I'm going to kill you. 1.00

02:55:17.000 The children cry. 0.99

02:55:18.000 Children as young as eight years of age.

02:55:20.000 This is Soviet brainwashing. 0.90

02:55:21.000 Yes it is.

02:55:22.000 And so this is what we're looking for.

02:55:25.000 Holding off talking to the other pastors and holding off going public here because I don't want too much to go out, but I'm sure being here on this one and also the Butch Powers Program, people are picking it up locally as well, so it'll be in time.

02:55:36.000 Pastors, I've not talked to them, just the ones who come to the training and they're pretty much typical.

02:55:41.000 How many have been through the training and for your town, what percentage of the pastors do they represent?

02:55:46.000 It started off with, we have about 78 pastors here in the area.

02:55:51.000 44 responded favorably, 23 went through the training, and 19 raised their right hand.

02:55:56.000 So that's where it is.

02:55:57.000 So we're looking at about 25%.

02:56:00.000 Right.

02:56:00.000 And that's the large amount that these people represent in churches that are, you know, family-based, home-based churches.

02:56:06.000 So, it's there.

02:56:08.000 They're even going after the little preachers.

02:56:10.000 Yes, they are.

02:56:11.000 They love little preachers.

02:56:13.000 Those are the flocks they fear the most.

02:56:15.000 Judas Goats.

02:56:16.000 Do you agree these people are Judas Goats?

02:56:18.000 Without a doubt.

02:56:20.000 We'll be back with the final segment.

02:56:21.000 Take a few calls for the pastor.

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