Alex Jones Show - 20060530_Tue_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Hello, my friends. my friends.

00:00:41.000 Thank you so much for joining us on this live Tuesday edition.

00:00:47.000 It is already the 30th day of May, 2006.

00:00:49.000 We're going to have wide open phones throughout the broadcast.

00:00:54.000 In the second hour, we have an investigative reporter journalist joining us that's written the article, Oklahoma, the Axis of Evil.

00:01:02.000 And it shows how so many of the 9-11 hijackers are connected in with different government officials, different people involved in the Oklahoma City bombing are connected to the very same people.

00:01:13.000 It even connects in to last year that bizarre bombing that happened at a football game up in OU.

00:01:21.000 It's all coming up.

00:01:23.000 Then in the third hour there are some activists.

00:01:27.000 There are some activists who all over the country every time One of the members of the 9-11 Commission shows up to an event to proselytize and propagandize.

00:01:37.000 They show up and they confront them.

00:01:40.000 They get in their face, and this one lady goes by the name Gypsy. 1.00

00:01:44.000 She blows her whistle to get everybody's attention, and then she starts running through the smoking guns of 9-11.

00:01:50.000 She'll be joining us coming up in the third hour today, and we'll play some of these clips from the video.

00:01:55.000 We'll also play a news clip of a teacher who's been suspended and may be fired over having a private conversation at the lunch table with another teacher about 9-11 being an inside job.

00:02:10.000 And that teacher is running around saying that he deserves to be fired.

00:02:13.000 It's very dangerous.

00:02:14.000 It doesn't matter if Zogby polls show that 66% of Americans believe the government's covering up.

00:02:22.000 50% believe the government was involved.

00:02:23.000 We have CNN polls that are in the high 80s.

00:02:26.000 Well, one of them was a 90%.

00:02:29.000 Another was a 83% when it closed.

00:02:31.000 So I say high 80s.

00:02:33.000 I average those two together.

00:02:36.000 And the individuals out there that want to say that the world is flat, well we're going to continue to say it's round, and we're going to see who wins this debate.

00:02:47.000 You can try to build straw men to tear us down, you can try to attack us, you can make stuff up and claim that we said ridiculous things that we didn't.

00:02:55.000 The people are going to learn the truth, they have learned the truth in many cases, and we're going to bring the government terrorists to justice.

00:03:03.000 The New World Order will be defeated.

00:03:06.000 You can be assured of that.

00:03:09.000 We'll talk about Bush's new Treasury Secretary, Paulson.

00:03:14.000 Also, another General has gone public saying freedom is under siege.

00:03:17.000 Retired General says that America is fighting a war for liberty and our freedoms are being taken.

00:03:24.000 We'll get to that after the break.

00:03:25.000 Also, Keanu Reeves was in Cannes Film Festival.

00:03:28.000 That wraps up here in the next day or so promoting the new film Scanner Darkly, A Scanner Darkly, that yours truly appears in, that I also consulted on.

00:03:38.000 I'm very proud of that fact.

00:03:40.000 And Kiana Reeves talked about how America's turning into a police state and how this film mirrors reality as well.

00:03:47.000 So more and more prominent people speaking out.

00:03:53.000 Also, Rumsfeld was on Larry King Live last night trying to revise history yet again, claiming he never said he knew where the weapons of mass destruction were.

00:04:02.000 Ron Paul's got a report out about trying to stop the National Animal Identification System, which did pass the House just, what, three days ago?

00:04:11.000 Also, the new fake soldier confession video runs as cover for real slaughter Dilutes impact of genuine war atrocities like phony rape photos distracted from Abu Ghraib.

00:04:25.000 And then we have other reports here where the Marine Corps Commandant is saying brace for just a huge shocker and that is of course what's admitted from the photographs that the Marines line up whole families and machine gun them.

00:04:42.000 And that's not good.

00:04:42.000 It's not good when the North Vietnamese did it.

00:04:44.000 It's not good when Hitler did it. 0.92

00:04:46.000 And it's not good when the beloved Corps does it.

00:04:50.000 And I have no doubt that this fake video has been put out by the government.

00:04:54.000 We've caught them doing this two separate times, and this fits the MO.

00:04:57.000 We'll get into all of it when we get back.

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00:08:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:06.000 About two weeks ago, a video surfaced

00:08:26.000 with someone reporting to be a member of the Army Rangers talking about how they would go into houses and shoot people, shoot their children, if the parents didn't answer questions.

00:08:42.000 And then very soon The evidence began to emerge, even before the Army claimed it was a hoax, that it was a hoax, and it looked like it was a hoax by design.

00:08:52.000 Now, if we go back to the week of the Abu Ghraib photos being released via CBS television, and that was only a small part of them, the Congress saw photos that were far more grisly, And then the Army report came out admitting that they did rape women, did rape children, did torture people with acid, did have dogs biting.

00:09:15.000 All of that submitted.

00:09:16.000 Individuals have pled guilty.

00:09:18.000 We have the White House memos from Alberto Gonzalez and John Yoo authorizing these exact type of activities. 0.54

00:09:25.000 On the record, But then we got fake videos circulated by neocon-controlled websites of women being raped.

00:09:33.000 And I remember looking at them and calling Paul Watson and saying, man, that's as fake as a $3 bill.

00:09:39.000 It was all over the web.

00:09:40.000 He said, yeah, they look fake to me. 0.96

00:09:42.000 It looked just like porn. 0.90

00:09:43.000 It was guys just dressed up in camo. 0.93

00:09:46.000 It was simply brunette, obviously Western women. 0.95

00:09:50.000 It was just ridiculously fake.

00:09:53.000 And then soon enough it came out, oh, it's a fake!

00:09:56.000 And so the neocons got on talk radio and TV and said, look, these photos were fake!

00:10:01.000 None of it's real!

00:10:02.000 And then we had the big British newspapers with the photos that came out at the same time of troops supposedly urinating On Iraqis.

00:10:12.000 Turned out those had been released by British paratroopers, and they didn't get in trouble for it.

00:10:18.000 It was clearly a staged event.

00:10:20.000 Then the big headlines were, oh, it's all staged.

00:10:25.000 Well, now, for the last two weeks, it's been bubbling, it's been in the Associated Press, that the Marines are doing their own investigation, that other Marines have blown the whistle, that members of Special Air Services, British commandos have quit, saying what happened is illegal.

00:10:39.000 That's all on record.

00:10:41.000 The Commandant of the Marine Corps is saying, Bryce, for a huge scandal that something bad indeed has happened.

00:10:48.000 And it turns out the very same sectors, the very same cities, in house-to-house fighting, and nighttime raids and interrogations that this fake quote uh... sergeant mcbeth video came out well guess what in reality that's exactly what is about to emerge killing family members if they don't answer questions mowing down whole families twenty-something at a pop each time Now, we've known about this for years.

00:11:15.000 It's been ongoing.

00:11:16.000 It's been in the mainstream news, but it doesn't get the play that a fake report does.

00:11:20.000 And they do this so the neocons can get up and announce that it's all fake.

00:11:25.000 That it's all theater.

00:11:27.000 Well, here's CNN.

00:11:29.000 Lawmakers called a brace for Iraq fallout.

00:11:34.000 Some members of Congress have been told to brace for fallout for potential charges of murder and cover-up stemming from an inquiry into an alleged massacre of Iraqi civilians by U.S.

00:11:43.000 Marine sources say.

00:11:45.000 Military investigators strongly suspect that what happened in the western Iraqi city of Hadithwa last November was a rampage by a small number of Marines Who snapped after one of their own was killed by a roadside bomb?

00:12:00.000 These sources told CNN.

00:12:02.000 Well, there have been a whole bunch of cases where a Marine gets shot or an Army soldier gets shot and they go nuts and mow whole crowds down or there's a crowd threatening them and somebody hears a gunshot go off or a backfire and the Marines open fire.

00:12:17.000 Pentagon sources told CNN that at least 24 Iraqis were killed in this one incident alone.

00:12:21.000 Sources told CNN Monday that the investigators is substantially complete and that charges including murder charges could be filed sometime in June.

00:12:29.000 And sources said investigators have concluded that there was a cover-up but won't say if it is limited to the handful of Marines who did the killings.

00:12:37.000 By the way, there have been British officers and American officers who are investigating these different massacres.

00:12:43.000 From Fallujah to Basra, who've been dying in their tents, or dying in their trucks.

00:12:49.000 They shoot themselves in the head.

00:12:52.000 The formal findings of investigators of the matter are several weeks late, said General Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:12:58.000 Pace cautioned against a rush to judgment.

00:13:03.000 And he went on to say there are two ongoing investigations.

00:13:05.000 One will be the whitewash.

00:13:06.000 One will be the real one, I would add.

00:13:08.000 He told CNN.

00:13:09.000 One has to do with what happened.

00:13:10.000 The other investigation goes to why didn't we know about it sooner than we knew about it.

00:13:16.000 So that's going on there.

00:13:18.000 And things happen like this in war.

00:13:21.000 But at the same time, we're seeing record levels of journalists dying.

00:13:26.000 Now more have died in Iraq in the last three years than died in World War II combined.

00:13:31.000 That's journalist period.

00:13:33.000 That's out in the Associated Press today.

00:13:35.000 More civilians are dying in this war than any other war in the past, per capita, for the numbers of combatants.

00:13:42.000 Every indicator is that our moral compass has gone directly into the toilet.

00:13:51.000 And then of course I mentioned the latest fake video.

00:13:55.000 Paul Watson did a great report on this.

00:13:58.000 Fake soldier confession video runs as cover for real slaughter, dilutes impact of genuine war atrocities like phony rape photos distracted from Abu Ghraib, a widely circulated video in which an army ranger confesses to brutal indiscriminate murder of Iraqi civilians and its vehement debunking as a hoax has acted as a smoke screen for the very real admission and evidence of U.S.

00:14:23.000 war crimes in Iraq, Working in this field for five years and scanning news on a day-to-day basis, you quickly develop a baloney detector that can spot hoaxes, psyops, and frauds from a mile away. 0.58

00:14:36.000 As soon as the Macbeth Marine video hit the internet, I smelt a very large rat.

00:14:42.000 The alternative media community is plagued by deliberate disinformation specialists and gullible individuals who will act as unwitting conduits for bogus information.

00:14:51.000 And I even fell into this for about a day.

00:14:53.000 That minefield of deception breeds confusion, distraction, and lowers the credibility of the truth community.

00:14:59.000 In the video, Macbeth claims that he was part of a unit that regularly killed innocent Iraqis, their wives, and children if they didn't explicitly follow orders.

00:15:07.000 Now, London Independent reporters have witnessed this.

00:15:10.000 This has been in the news, so see, that all gets ignored.

00:15:13.000 But this doesn't.

00:15:14.000 Proof that the video is a hoax is legion.

00:15:16.000 Macbeth's uniform is totally inconsistent with that of a U.S.

00:15:19.000 Army Ranger and his acclaimed medals are not verified by any official record.

00:15:24.000 Army spokesman John Boyce said there is no record of Macbeth ever serving.

00:15:29.000 Initial research by the U.S.

00:15:31.000 Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg shows no soldier with the name of Jesse Macbeth having ever been assigned to the Special Forces or the Army Rangers, which are in fact two separate disciplines.

00:15:41.000 At its height, the fake video Confession was the number two click news item across the internet.

00:15:51.000 It continues.

00:15:52.000 I wouldn't really say two different disciplines.

00:15:54.000 The Army Rangers then is the lower, kind of like the junior high of Special Forces, and they take from the Rangers into the Army Special Forces.

00:16:02.000 The video has eclipsed the real evidence of U.S.

00:16:05.000 war crimes in Iraq.

00:16:06.000 The BBC video above carries bona fide testimony from U.S.

00:16:10.000 soldiers who served in Iraq and were party to killing civilians.

00:16:14.000 To emphasize, this video carries accurate, unimpeachable, and legitimate testimony regarding U.S.

00:16:20.000 war crimes in Iraq.

00:16:22.000 And we have a video above where mainstream news is admitting it.

00:16:25.000 In addition, charges are expected to be brought against Marines after investigation into the killing of 24 unarmed civilians in Iraqi town in November.

00:16:33.000 And it goes on and we break down some of the other hoaxes the Feds have brought out on purpose to then discredit and blame on alternative media.

00:16:45.000 We then have government hoaxes that are discredited and then no one gets in trouble for it.

00:16:49.000 And that's like the ADL, three weeks ago, two and a half weeks ago, releasing a fake report, quote, citing Iranian dissidents living in Toronto and other areas of Canada, that Iran was going to make Christians wear blue badges, Zoroastrians green badges, and Jews yellow badges.

00:17:12.000 I remember seeing that and thinking, that sounds fake.

00:17:15.000 I mean, Iran is crazy enough to do something like that, maybe, but yellow badges? 0.98

00:17:20.000 I go, no. 1.00

00:17:21.000 This is coming from the ADL, who are congenital liars. 0.68

00:17:26.000 I mean, they've got, I threatened to sue them last year because they had this border dispute, a border vigilante group intelligence report they put out on their website. 0.98

00:17:43.000 And they had a quote in there where Alex Jones said, quote, Mexicans have the most evil culture in the world. 0.96

00:17:51.000 It is the pit of hell or something like that. 0.97

00:17:54.000 And what I actually said was the Aztec culture was the most evil culture I've ever studied from an anthropological view. 1.00

00:18:03.000 And that I think that the Mexican culture is a hard-working, good, family-oriented culture in many respects.

00:18:09.000 But they've been enslaved so long with the merger of corrupt, colonial Spanish culture and Aztec culture that it's hard for them to climb up out of it. 0.99

00:18:18.000 Well, I threatened the ADL.

00:18:19.000 I said, you better change that.

00:18:20.000 They did change it to, Jones says that some of their cultures are evil.

00:18:25.000 They kind of paraphrased it.

00:18:27.000 But the point is, What they do is lie, folks.

00:18:30.000 Or they'll say, Alex Jones says the space shuttle explosion is suspicious.

00:18:39.000 And he's issued other anti-Semitic conspiracy theories in the past.

00:18:45.000 What does that mean?

00:18:47.000 Or, what they're saying, what anti-Semites are saying.

00:18:52.000 And then you read into the report after 9-11, that's what it was called, what they're saying, and it's Alex Jones thinks the government's behind it.

00:18:59.000 They issued that two days after 9-11.

00:19:02.000 And I didn't say Israel was behind it.

00:19:04.000 In fact, I've been attacked by the Klan groups for saying that Israel didn't carry it out.

00:19:10.000 Frankly, I believe, in hindsight, I didn't know this two days after, three days after, So their statement then was false.

00:19:17.000 But I think they protest too much because now the evidence does show that Israel was certainly knowledgeable of it and may have been involved logistically in some support role.

00:19:26.000 That is, a small criminal element of the Israeli government. 0.92

00:19:30.000 But those that say that Israel carried it out alone, I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.74

00:19:35.000 Israel can't make NORAD stand down.

00:19:37.000 Israel can't... But I'm digressing. 1.00

00:19:39.000 The point is The ADL lied about the Iranians.

00:19:44.000 There was no such law, no such debate.

00:19:47.000 It was totally made up, like the false reports back in 1990 of Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators.

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00:23:58.000 For EcoV... From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:24:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:13.000 Just finishing up with the ADL and others. .

00:24:24.000 They, for days after it was an admitted hoax that Iran was going to make Jews and Christians and others wear special identifying patches on their clothing, they were still on the news saying, no, we know it's true! 1.00

00:24:37.000 We don't have any proof, but we just know it's true!

00:24:41.000 And the problem is, the same crowd has called General Zinni anti-Semitic, and he exposed them on 60 Minutes.

00:24:47.000 They've lost lawsuits now over this.

00:24:51.000 They call anyone and everyone that doesn't support every single Israeli policy an anti-Semite, and it just doesn't hold water anymore.

00:25:03.000 It's backfired on that crowd that is pushing for a new world order.

00:25:11.000 And the ADL and others have a big problem because, what is it, 60% now of Jews in Israel are against the Iraq war and don't support their own government?

00:25:20.000 And are absolutely oppressed.

00:25:22.000 You know, it's not just the Palestinians that are oppressed by the Israeli state.

00:25:27.000 Jews don't really have any free speech in that country. 1.00

00:25:30.000 If Jews go out and criticize and protest, they get arrested in many cases. 0.74

00:25:35.000 Or if they talk about Israel's nuclear arsenal, they get arrested.

00:25:39.000 And the media is controlled over there.

00:25:42.000 But where did the stories of Israelis involved in 9-11 come from?

00:25:47.000 Because it's not an urban legend.

00:25:49.000 MSNBC has a headline, not an urban legend.

00:25:53.000 And they report that, wow, Arabs really were telling people don't be in the buildings that week.

00:25:58.000 And so were Israelis. 0.96

00:25:59.000 And Odigo, the Israeli instant messaging company, it was in Haratz, that's where it came from, out of Israel, four hours before, did tell every one of their employees, get out of the building with their instant messaging service.

00:26:12.000 Now that is out of Haratz and the Jerusalem Post.

00:26:15.000 Their main office is in Tel Aviv.

00:26:18.000 That's why that was in the news.

00:26:20.000 And it is true that the buildings were only at about half their normal occupancy capacity.

00:26:27.000 Now, to not get that confused, the buildings themselves were at about half occupancy in the space that had been rented.

00:26:35.000 But of the people that would normally be there at 8.30, 9 o'clock in the morning, the buildings were about half empty.

00:26:44.000 All the big CEOs were out of the building.

00:26:47.000 Most of them were at Moffett Air Force Base at 7.30 in the morning before it even happened at some weird secret meeting, the details of which have never been published, in Nebraska with Warren Buffett.

00:27:01.000 So it wasn't just Israeli firms that weren't in there.

00:27:04.000 The Arabs, the Muslims weren't there as well.

00:27:08.000 So see, what I do is I look at all of that.

00:27:12.000 So I get criticized from both sides.

00:27:14.000 I get criticized by the Likudnik slash Labor Zionist lobby for saying that Israel's hands are dirty in this.

00:27:23.000 And then I get criticized by the other government-controlled arm that when we have a hailstorm in Austin, Texas, they say it was Jews.

00:27:31.000 And by the way, everybody's a crypto-Jew. 0.67

00:27:34.000 Everybody's a secret Jew. 1.00

00:27:35.000 It's all a big Jewish conspiracy and they're out to get us. 1.00

00:27:39.000 And then people who play along with that just play into the hands of the New World Order.

00:27:43.000 So anytime you speak up against corruption, the ADL could say, oh, you're one of those groups that thinks it's all the Jews.

00:27:50.000 And I didn't mean to get off into this, but I started talking about the ADL, so why not discuss it?

00:27:56.000 Why not talk about it?

00:27:58.000 I mean, we've got The Israeli Prime Minister here in the United States shaking his finger at us, telling us we need to go ahead and attack Iran, and Israel is manipulating and blackmailing this country.

00:28:10.000 They've been caught a bunch of times doing it.

00:28:12.000 They've been caught with spies all over the Pentagon, all over the White House, no matter what administration it is, in the last 30-40 years, and it is a major serious problem.

00:28:23.000 But as for the religious fervor With which people from the Zionist lobby attack anyone that criticizes Israel, I'm sick and tired of it! 0.82

00:28:34.000 And I'm also sick and tired of the religious fervor that the Jew haters have, thinking Jews all secretly have cloven hooves and tails tucked into their pants, and are out wantonly engaging in some mass conspiracy of evil! 0.85

00:28:48.000 No! 0.99

00:28:48.000 Governments are evil! 0.99

00:28:50.000 Corrupt racial mafias are evil and are out of control! 1.00

00:28:55.000 Is there a corrupt world Jewish mafia engaging in crime activities? 1.00

00:29:01.000 Is it one of the most powerful mafias? 0.99

00:29:03.000 Yes!

00:29:05.000 Is it the most all-powerful mafia?

00:29:07.000 No!

00:29:09.000 Are most Jews involved in the mafia?

00:29:11.000 No!

00:29:12.000 So I thought I'd throw down the gauntlet against the ADL today, and at the same time, against people who never get anything done against the New World Order, but just run around making up stuff, and a lot of it is made up, folks, about the Israeli lobby even itself.

00:29:30.000 Alright, when we get back, Freedom Under Siege, Retired General says, also Keanu Reeves weighs in on the police state.

00:29:41.000 And we'll also take your calls.

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00:33:11.000 Coming up in the third hour, we have a great lady joining us who goes around to different 9-11 symposiums, different 9-11 commission meetings, where they spout the official propaganda line of lies. 1.00

00:33:26.000 And she blows a whistle and then starts rattling off before they drag her out. 1.00

00:33:31.000 The different key smoking gun pieces of evidence documenting that 9-11 was an inside job.

00:33:38.000 So she'll be joining us in the third hour.

00:33:40.000 We have a guest coming on in the second hour to talk about 9-11, Oklahoma City, all the connections to our government and some of the criminal elements that are running it.

00:33:50.000 Let me cover a couple other pieces of news right now, then we'll go to Bob, James, Rodney, Mark, Maria and others.

00:33:59.000 Freedoms Under Siege, Retired General Says.

00:34:02.000 This is out of the Courier Journal out of Louisville, Kentucky.

00:34:08.000 A ceremony to honor veterans became a call to action yesterday as Retired Air Force General urged the crowd not to let freedoms that he treasures slip away.

00:34:17.000 And we're working on getting this general on.

00:34:21.000 Just one more general going public.

00:34:23.000 There's two wars going on.

00:34:25.000 There's a war in Iraq and there's a war right here at home.

00:34:28.000 And we may have our eye on the wrong place.

00:34:31.000 Retired Major General Carl D. Black told a crowd at Highland Memory Gardens in Bilt County.

00:34:42.000 Bullitt County, excuse me.

00:34:44.000 Today we're trying to remove God from everything, Black said.

00:34:48.000 We're trying to do away with the Pledge of Allegiance, remove prayer from schools, remove prayer from the Armed Forces. 0.53

00:34:54.000 I say there's something wrong With where we are today, and we better wake up and start looking and see just exactly what it is.

00:35:02.000 Black, a Vietnam veteran, was the featured speaker at the annual Memorial Day Weekend Service, sponsored by Chapter 454 of the Vietnam Veterans of America.

00:35:12.000 The ceremony, which is the 14th year honors, is Veterans of All Wars, and it goes on.

00:35:20.000 I think it would be interesting to find out exactly what his full quotes were.

00:35:26.000 I know my sister just had her high school commencement. 1.00

00:35:30.000 She just graduated.

00:35:31.000 I wasn't there Sunday.

00:35:33.000 She's 15 years younger than me, ladies and gentlemen.

00:35:36.000 That's why she's just now graduating.

00:35:39.000 And the teacher that the students chose to give the keynote speech, I didn't know was a fan.

00:35:44.000 I just learned that.

00:35:46.000 of this broadcast, but he got up and talked about the dictator we have and how America is a police state and how we've got to stand up and fight it.

00:35:53.000 So everywhere I go, everywhere I look, we see people speaking out and resisting.

00:35:58.000 Here's another quote from Black.

00:36:00.000 If people want to maintain the ideas and ideas that veterans fought for and continue to make this country great, Black said, then you and I and younger American generations coming on must get involved.

00:36:12.000 Today we have come to pay respects to our fallen heroes and fallen comrades, but not that alone, Black said.

00:36:18.000 Today we have come to receive the torch, to hold it high and to keep the faith, and to pass it from generation to generation, and has been done since the nation was founded.

00:36:31.000 It goes on, but the General is right.

00:36:34.000 Our freedoms are disappearing.

00:36:36.000 He went on to say, they just take for granted all the freedoms that we have and think, aw, they were just given to us.

00:36:43.000 Indeed, they should be teaching youths the basics, he said.

00:36:46.000 Teach them to respect the flag.

00:36:48.000 Teach them to respect themselves.

00:36:50.000 Teach them history.

00:36:52.000 And he went on.

00:36:57.000 President Bush taps Paulson For new Treasury Secretary, Treasury Secretary John Snow resigned Tuesday and President Bush nominated Goldman Sachs Chief Executive Officer Henry M. Paulson, Jr.

00:36:57.000 Oh boy.

00:37:12.000 as his replacement.

00:37:13.000 Another chapter in the shake-up to revive Bush's troubled presidency.

00:37:17.000 He has a lifetime of business experience.

00:37:19.000 He has intimate knowledge of financial markets and the ability to explain economic issues in clear terms.

00:37:25.000 Bush said of Paulson in the Rose Garden announcement, White House officials believe that Wall Street executive Paulson's talents could better make the case for the administration's economic growth program.

00:37:40.000 You know, they can put whatever fancy spin they want on the economy.

00:37:44.000 They can point at the stock market at 11,700 and something, highest it's ever been.

00:37:50.000 They can point at whatever indicators they want, but the truth is the stock market has grown because the money supply has been doubled in the last six years.

00:38:00.000 And so we really have a 6,000 roughly stock market.

00:38:07.000 That's what it is in 2,000 numbers.

00:38:11.000 And we've had Nobel Prize winning economists and other top economists on this broadcast to break that down.

00:38:17.000 The stock market is really at around 6,000.

00:38:20.000 And that's in the foreign financial publications as well.

00:38:23.000 You just won't hear that here in the U.S.

00:38:28.000 Debt is at all-time highs.

00:38:29.000 We have the highest debt ratio that we've ever had in U.S.

00:38:33.000 history.

00:38:33.000 It is greater than at the depth of the Depression in late 1933.

00:38:39.000 And I'm not trying to be negative here.

00:38:41.000 This is just the facts.

00:38:44.000 And so, short term, it makes things look rosy to be printing money like it's going out of style.

00:38:50.000 Now, Bernanke, the new Fed Chief, says he's going to print money even faster.

00:38:58.000 No amount of tax cuts are going to fix that.

00:39:01.000 We have been fleeced.

00:39:04.000 But c'est la vie, it's all going to come home to roost very, very soon.

00:39:08.000 Let's go to your phone calls now.

00:39:09.000 I'm going to move quickly here.

00:39:11.000 Bob in Nevada, welcome.

00:39:13.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:39:15.000 I've changed the subject I was going to originally talk to you about, but because you were talking about atrocities,

00:39:23.000 I remember reading on Jeff's website, and then later on when I got onto your website about atrocities very early on, Robert Fisk, who Ted Koppel refers to as the finest, most renowned international reporter, very early on reported from Iraq that he observed a Marine sniper shoot an old woman, an old man, and a small boy.

00:39:51.000 Just, you know, just shooting them.

00:39:53.000 That's right. 0.99

00:39:54.000 The London Independent, very respected.

00:39:56.000 I mean, they've got less retractions than any publication I've seen, and it's been confirmed.

00:40:02.000 troops would brag and shoot women and children in front of them with sniper rifles, laughing.

00:40:02.000 U.S.

00:40:09.000 This was in The Guardian, I think, but The Independent and The Guardian both were reporting stories like this.

00:40:15.000 Then there was an earlier one, a soldier from Afghanistan came back and wrote a letter on Jeff Webb.

00:40:22.000 Yeah, that was Calhoun, and that was in the Buffalo newspaper.

00:40:29.000 And then the Army came out and didn't retract.

00:40:32.000 They said, well, it's true what he said, but there are hostiles in these villages.

00:40:36.000 And what the sergeant said was that they were killing everyone, including small children.

00:40:42.000 And that was not retracted.

00:40:44.000 That is admitted.

00:40:45.000 There's also two and a half years ago in Switzerland I was staying at a youth hostel and I was talking to a young guy from New Zealand who about 9-11 I said it was a fraud I left the country for a few months because I thought they were going to do another government was going to do another one and I wanted to watch from the outside and I was talking to him and this guy he's about 60 walks in sits down about 10 feet away and was listening and

00:41:16.000 And he pops in, he started talking, and he said he was a retired colonel from special ops, and he left the country because he got sick of it.

00:41:26.000 And he said, but he went on, he was a little bit crazy, but he told me that they were presented with, a group of them, with an Islam, or Muslim, Apparently dressed like a Moslem, at least, who made a presentation to him. 0.98

00:41:47.000 He said he had converted to Christianity, and he had said to them, to the soldiers, that for a Moslem to be redeemed by God, he had to kill a Christian or a Jew before he died. 0.90

00:42:03.000 And I didn't register to the next day that that was complete lunacy, because if that were the case, They would be killing Christians, and I'm the record for it, ever since 600 when the Muslim religion got started. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Listen, I appreciate your call, sir. 0.69

00:42:21.000 There are a few small sects who believe it is good, that it's a brownie point, to get them into heaven if they do indeed kill Christians or other unbelievers. 0.51

00:42:35.000 But they don't really Let me be clear. 0.98

00:42:38.000 Pagans are heathens.

00:42:39.000 They don't really consider Christians and Jews as heathens because they believe it's the same God. 0.99

00:42:45.000 But there are some sects that do believe that Christians are heathen and need to die.

00:42:51.000 But it's a very small group. 0.96

00:42:52.000 They've had big regional polls. 1.00

00:42:55.000 Around 6% of Muslims are rabid and want to kill everybody. 1.00

00:42:59.000 I'd say a bigger percentage of Americans say turn the Middle East into a parking lot. 1.00

00:43:02.000 So, you know, Muslims could use that example to say we're all crazy. 0.97

00:43:06.000 But they do go in and demonize Muslims in front of the troops with similar propaganda. 0.97

00:43:12.000 You can hear it on talk radio, sir, all the time. 0.99

00:43:17.000 I mean, it's like a comic book, it's so ridiculous. 0.82

00:43:20.000 Now, you left the country a few years ago because you thought there was going to be an attack. 0.71

00:43:24.000 Listen, if you were ever going to leave because of that, now would be the time, buddy.

00:43:29.000 I mean, if we're ever going to see a terror attack, I would say the next six months to a year.

00:43:34.000 And that's what Ray McGovern, Chief CIA Analyst for Bush and, of course, Ronald Reagan, Bush Senior and Reagan, yesterday said that it's very clear that they've at least got the pieces on the board and that they want to attack Iran from late June into October for the election and for a bunch of other reasons.

00:43:59.000 And Israel is saying they may go ahead and do it. 0.59

00:44:02.000 And I said, Ray McGovern, I said, do you think our government will stage a terror attack?

00:44:05.000 And he said, yes, that's a very good possibility.

00:44:09.000 There's a very good chance of that happening.

00:44:11.000 So, if we ever were watchful, if we were ever vigilant, if we were ever concerned, now is the time.

00:44:18.000 See, I don't just get up here and, oh, Houston will be nuked next week, and then it doesn't happen, and the person that says it doesn't lose any credibility.

00:44:27.000 Or, I guarantee you, Chicago will be next month.

00:44:32.000 I guarantee you that is COINTELPRO all the way.

00:44:37.000 I'm not seeing everybody spouting that as a government agent, but we know where that's coming from.

00:44:41.000 Anybody who just over and over again makes predictions, over and over again tries to scare people, That's what the White House does.

00:44:48.000 They told U.S.

00:44:49.000 News and World Report two months before the November election in 2004, they said there is going to be a nuclear attack on D.C.

00:44:58.000 or New York before the election.

00:45:00.000 They said it will happen.

00:45:02.000 The White House said that.

00:45:05.000 I said, folks, this is not going to happen.

00:45:07.000 They're just fear-mongering.

00:45:08.000 They're scaring you.

00:45:10.000 They're using this to stampede you.

00:45:13.000 And it's the Feds that continually say, not a question of it but when, we're going to be attacked.

00:45:18.000 It's going to happen, it's going to happen, it's going to happen, it's going to happen.

00:45:21.000 To keep that fear going, to keep that terrorism fresh in your mind.

00:45:25.000 But if there was ever going to be an event, and we may be able to expose it, we may be able to back them off now, but if there was ever going to be an event, the next six months to a year, maybe even sooner.

00:45:35.000 James in Maryland, James go ahead.

00:45:40.000 Hello, James.

00:45:41.000 Yes, go ahead.

00:45:41.000 Hello?

00:45:42.000 Yes, I was wondering if you were in possession of or if you knew where to get the actual FEMA documents or the training manuals that they're handing to the pastors in the 13,000 counties?

00:45:53.000 Yes, we have a copy for free download for you right now on InfoWars.com.

00:45:59.000 What would that be under what headline?

00:46:02.000 Well, we wrote the article when it came out last Tuesday And we got a bunch of the public documents posted, and then we posted the 30-something page document that was specifically given out to preachers in Ohio.

00:46:20.000 Then we got calls from the preachers panicking because we took the main preacher's name off, but it had some of the other preacher's names.

00:46:27.000 So last time I checked, we blacked that out and reposted it.

00:46:31.000 And so I would just type in, you know, that's why every day you need to read the site, but it's in the archives from last week.

00:46:39.000 Thanks.

00:46:40.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:46:41.000 Thank you.

00:46:41.000 I appreciate the call.

00:46:43.000 Let's go ahead and talk.

00:46:45.000 Well, you see, the caller brought that up.

00:46:46.000 Where would he get that manual?

00:46:47.000 People don't know what we're talking about.

00:46:49.000 Training preachers to tell their flock to go ahead and turn their guns in.

00:46:53.000 Martial law is good. 0.98

00:46:55.000 Go to relocation centers.

00:46:57.000 Submit to the government.

00:46:58.000 Romans 13.

00:46:59.000 Really scary stuff.

00:47:01.000 Rodney in Texas.

00:47:02.000 Rodney, go ahead.

00:47:04.000 Thanks, Alex, for taking my call.

00:47:08.000 Alex, you remember when this story first broke about the troops being involved in torture and murder and Antonio Taguba report, the International Red Cross report, Abu Ghraib and so on and so forth.

00:47:22.000 You had all the neocons trying to defend it and most especially Rush Limbaugh saying that they were just blowing off a little steam.

00:47:32.000 Well, first they denied it and said it was all fake, and magically government organs released fake pictures.

00:47:38.000 Then, I mean, I still have neocons walk up and say it's all fake.

00:47:42.000 How dare you make a film?

00:47:43.000 See how they do that?

00:47:44.000 First they say it's fake, they release fake videos, fake photos, then that's discredited.

00:47:49.000 Then the real stuff comes out, and then they say, oh, it's no big deal.

00:47:53.000 Yeah, and I'm trying to, and I'm wondering if these guys are just blowing off a little steam like Rush Limbaugh says, why the cover-up?

00:48:01.000 Why the cover-up?

00:48:03.000 According to Mercer.

00:48:06.000 Why the cover-up?

00:48:08.000 Well, Congress saw over a thousand videos and over, excuse me, over a thousand photos and a hundred videos.

00:48:15.000 Remember they were given one day to look at them?

00:48:18.000 And the Senators and Congressmen walked out and said, we're sick.

00:48:18.000 Yes.

00:48:22.000 And they reported, well, we're not going to let you see it, but it's... I don't even want to say what's on the tape, but... Right.

00:48:27.000 And then General Togumbo's own report, and people pled guilty to this, Raping children, raping women, it's all admitted! 0.95

00:48:34.000 But the neocons still deny it and say it's fake, because neocon publications first circulated the fake rape photos. 0.98

00:48:42.000 These guys are slick!

00:48:43.000 Right, now Alex, as another caveat, now if everybody is so shocked and disgusted behind this, I've heard you many times talk about how John Hugh and People of this kind have said that this is okay.

00:49:02.000 You know, this sort of behavior on the part of the Marines and doing this sort of thing, that this is okay.

00:49:08.000 So, if these soldiers are to be punished, why not John Hugh and some of these other people?

00:49:13.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:49:14.000 John Hugh, one of the White House counsels, deputy of Humberto Gonzalez, wrote in a memo, they can torture small children, including sexually, in front of their parents.

00:49:22.000 And four months ago, in front of the CFR, and I had the professor on that questioned me, in Chicago, and we have a recording of it, we can play it right now, John, you said, yes, I wrote that, and yes, it's okay.

00:49:33.000 And so, it's on record.

00:49:34.000 And it's true that they ordered the troops to do this.

00:49:38.000 They had CIA and private contractors over the wings of those camps.

00:49:43.000 They have an internal wing at Gitmo.

00:49:46.000 They have internal wings at Abu Ghraib.

00:49:47.000 So both in Cuba and Iraq they have. 0.52

00:49:50.000 Then all the secret camps that are even worse in Israel, in Saudi Arabia, in Egypt, in Europe.

00:50:01.000 They have these things, former Eastern Bloc, where they're killing people! 1.00

00:50:07.000 I mean, it's even worse than what we've been told, and we know the White House, and then Bush comes out and first he says we're not torturing, then he says it's not torture, we call it pressure, then he says, I'm above the law, we're allowed to.

00:50:19.000 So, that's all on record.

00:50:20.000 So, yes, you just hit the nail on the head.

00:50:23.000 Why aren't they getting in trouble?

00:50:25.000 It's like the police busting a street-level muscle, or enforcer, soldier, of the Mafia, and then having the documents that the Don ordered it, having surveillance recordings of the Don ordering the hit, and the Don doesn't get in trouble, and the Don sits in judgment of his own soldier.

00:50:47.000 Anything else, Rodney?

00:50:48.000 Yes, yes.

00:50:49.000 One more quick point.

00:50:51.000 The Pope, it is known that he was a youth, part of Hitler's youth.

00:50:57.000 We'll talk about Ratzinger on the other side.

00:50:57.000 Stay there.

00:51:01.000 Hey folks, Alex Jones here.

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00:53:56.000 All right, Rodney and Texas, finish up your statement.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, uh...

00:54:16.000 You were talking about how ADL and, you know, these groups, Simon Wiesenthal, these groups, they send their attack dogs after youth, you know, on false allegations.

00:54:28.000 But yet, the Pope, this current Pope, is an admitted, you know, soldier in the German military during Hitler's era and a youth, part of that youth movement.

00:54:40.000 And I was reading in the Minneapolis-St.

00:54:42.000 Paul Pioneer Press, Saturday or Sunday, that he makes no apologies about it, and I don't see the ADL or Simon Wiesenthal going after him, and I'm just curious why.

00:54:56.000 Well, it's like Schwarzenegger, he admittedly gave Hitler recordings to friends, he would howl Hitler, he said he admired Hitler, told magazines that, told Rolling Stone that, but that's okay!

00:55:07.000 But I'm against Nazis, and so the ADL likes to snipe at me, They don't have one single anti-semitic quote from me.

00:55:15.000 They just say Alex thinks 9-11 is an inside job, so he's anti-semitic, whatever that means.

00:55:20.000 Or Alex thinks the Federal Reserve is bad, so he's anti-semitic.

00:55:23.000 Or Alex believes in a new world order, so he's anti-semitic.

00:55:27.000 And that's why they're getting sued by a bunch of people, they've lost lawsuits, they've got generals mad at them, and so that's why they've lost all credibility.

00:55:36.000 But yeah, Ratzinger was a member of the Hitler Youth, and he says that he doesn't make an apology because he was forced into it, he claims.

00:55:44.000 And I guess there in the last months of the war they did force a lot of people into the Hitler Youth, so in a way that holds water. 0.95

00:55:51.000 But what doesn't hold water, Rodney, is that he calls for a new world order every time I turn around.

00:55:56.000 That's what's bad about Ratsinger.

00:55:58.000 That's what I wanted to know because, you know, if you just take everything he says at face value, and I know that's very dangerous, it is believable.

00:56:09.000 But now that you mention the New World, oh, by the way, and what about the Bushes, Prescott Bush being a supporter of Adolf Hitler?

00:56:16.000 Why aren't the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal going after the Bushes?

00:56:21.000 Well, not just that, Judd.

00:56:22.000 George Jr.' 's first money he got for oil investments was directly from money they were making through the 50s and 60s.

00:56:29.000 They still control a lot of those assets that were brought into different areas of Latin America and into Texas.

00:56:37.000 Thanks for the call.

00:56:38.000 I mean, that's mainstream news, folks.

00:56:40.000 That was in big papers in the 40s and 50s.

00:56:43.000 And it's on the record.

00:56:45.000 Scholarly dissertations have been given on this.

00:56:48.000 Scholarly books have been published on this.

00:56:50.000 It's not been refuted.

00:56:51.000 My film, Martial Law, in three hours, spends about 30 minutes on the bushes in Hitler. 0.82

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00:57:00.000 It's well worth the price just for that.

00:57:03.000 We also get into 9-11.

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Remember Nick Byrd?

00:59:17.000 He got his head supposedly sawed off in Iraq.

00:59:21.000 Why did he give one of the hijackers his laptop and passcode?

00:59:25.000 Why did he and so many others, including Oklahoma City Bombers, train at the same military base, same flight school?

00:59:32.000 How does it all interconnect?

00:59:33.000 Very, very important, detailed report coming up.

00:59:36.000 We have posted on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com with a guest in the next segment.

00:59:41.000 Right now, R.B.

00:59:43.000 R.B., you're on the air.

00:59:44.000 Where are you calling us from?

00:59:45.000 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

00:59:47.000 Welcome.

00:59:48.000 Go ahead.

00:59:48.000 I'm listening on the internet.

00:59:50.000 I've watched a lot of your videos.

00:59:50.000 Big fan.

00:59:54.000 They're conditioning us up here in Canada right now.

00:59:57.000 Ever since the Conservative minority government got elected, Mr. Harper, Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister up here, has been instituting rules that are like Bush-like.

01:00:07.000 He wants the media to back off.

01:00:11.000 He's eliminated certain things.

01:00:13.000 He's brought down a top-down approach, the same way Bush did.

01:00:19.000 He's only got a minority government, but he's acting completely like a Well, he's also a member of the Bilderberg Group, and it's reported that he's going to be attending the meeting on the 8th, 9th, and 10th in Ottawa.

01:00:33.000 Exactly, and this is the other thing.

01:00:35.000 He's trying to institute a Bush-like approach to everything, and he's only got a minority government.

01:00:41.000 And so, in reality, if there wasn't something up his sleeve, he'd be...

01:00:47.000 He's endangering his position, his government as a minority government, the way he's acting towards the media and the people, ignoring democratic procedures and stuff like that.

01:00:56.000 Almost like he's got something up his sleeve.

01:00:58.000 But he's supposedly conservative, but he's not retracting some of the gun control laws brought in by the, quote, liberals.

01:01:05.000 Oh no, in fact, he says he ran on eliminating it, but as soon as he got elected, of course, he said, oh, we can't eliminate it because the rest of the country would be upset, blah blah blah.

01:01:15.000 And now they're just going to phase it in more efficiently.

01:01:20.000 And lately we've had two parliamentary sessions where experts have gotten up and said, well, the conditions are set in Canada now for a terrorist attack here in Canada, just like in England in the subway system, from homegrown Al-Qaeda sympathizers.

01:01:36.000 And he says, there's many of them.

01:01:37.000 We know where they are.

01:01:38.000 We know who they are.

01:01:40.000 I'm thinking, oh jeez, I've heard this before.

01:01:42.000 But they can't bust them, though.

01:01:44.000 No, of course not.

01:01:45.000 But they can take all your freedoms, though.

01:01:48.000 Well, it's just funny, especially with that Qadar thing. 1.00

01:01:51.000 This Qadar kid, who was used by the CIA when he got wound up in Afghanistan, along with his little brother.

01:01:59.000 His little brother, his 15-year-old brother, was sent down to Guantanamo.

01:02:03.000 But this guy was 18 or 19 at the time, and he was used by the CIA to infiltrate Into Iraq and stuff.

01:02:11.000 They said, well, we're gonna... If you play ball with us, you know, they rounded him up in one of those generic sweeps over in Afghanistan.

01:02:17.000 He was over there with his dad.

01:02:18.000 And they said, if you play ball with us, and pretend to be an Al-Qaeda terrorist, and go out and make all these statements, and tell your mom and dad, and your family members that you're a member of Al-Qaeda, and then that gets, you know, broadcast all over at home here.

01:02:36.000 And so it's just, it's a psy-op.

01:02:39.000 And they're doing it up here in Canada now.

01:02:41.000 I know, they had a bunch of events where they bused supposed Al-Qaeda leaders, and then a month later you'll see it in the BBC.

01:02:47.000 Oh, that was a staged arrest to protect the agents' anonymity.

01:02:50.000 That wasn't a real Al-Qaeda.

01:02:52.000 Thanks for the call.

01:02:53.000 I appreciate your call.

01:02:54.000 We'll get to Paul, another call in Canada here later, and Charles, and others.

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01:03:00.000 We'll have open phones throughout this hour, but we've got a special guest coming up.

01:03:06.000 He's put out a Detailed report here, getting into some of the bizarre goings on in Oklahoma.

01:03:16.000 Terrorist training camps, bizarre CIA operations.

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01:07:00.000 Colin Benden-Neuenhoff is our guest.

01:07:16.000 He lives up in Oklahoma.

01:07:17.000 He's friends with one of my employees, Kevin Smith.

01:07:21.000 He put out a really detailed report.

01:07:23.000 For cerebellum.tv, he's expanded it for Infowars.com.

01:07:28.000 It's in the guest section on the main page of Infowars.com today.

01:07:32.000 And we've talked a lot about this, but a piece here, a piece there.

01:07:35.000 Why were supposed Oklahoma City bombers trained in Oklahoma with government connections?

01:07:42.000 Brought in by Bush Sr., former Iraqi Republican guard.

01:07:46.000 This is even in the Washington Times and Washington Post, folks, at the end of the Gulf War.

01:07:50.000 Why were they involved in the bombing?

01:07:52.000 Why did Nick Byrd, who supposedly got his head sawed off, In Iraq, just a few days after the Associated Press reported the FBI had him in custody and, quote, handed him over to a group that then gave him to Al-Qaeda.

01:08:07.000 You see, this is all hidden in plain view.

01:08:10.000 Why do we have Mr. Berg giving his laptop and laptop codes to one of the supposed hijackers of 9-11?

01:08:18.000 Why were they trained at U.S.

01:08:20.000 bases and flight schools?

01:08:22.000 Well, these are spy training bases, ladies and gentlemen. 0.87

01:08:25.000 And you have all these same individuals connected to each other over and over and over again.

01:08:31.000 And Mr. Vanden Neuwenhoff has put together a detailed report, and I've read over it.

01:08:37.000 It's all very factual.

01:08:38.000 And we're going to try to break this down for you today.

01:08:41.000 Holland, thanks for coming on with us.

01:08:44.000 You're welcome, Alex.

01:08:45.000 Thank you very much.

01:08:47.000 A thumbnail sketch, run through the whole story for us, the highlights, and then we'll go into more detail in each area.

01:08:54.000 But, I mean, you started noticing all these connections, so you researched it.

01:08:59.000 Break it down for us.

01:09:00.000 Well, I'm a research assistant for OTR Productions.

01:09:03.000 We're making a documentary on the Oklahoma City bombing.

01:09:06.000 In the course of this, we found some pretty interesting connections between 9-11 and the Oklahoma City Bonds.

01:09:12.000 Same characters involved, same ARAT people who enjoy apparent immunity from prosecution took part in both events.

01:09:21.000 And not only that, in examining the records and the documents of hijackers going in and out of Oklahoma, 9-11 hijackers traveling, training in Oklahoma, We found that there was a CIA agent, David Edger, who was in Germany monitoring the Hamburg cell, and then he traveled to Oklahoma, where they had their meeting here in Oklahoma City.

01:09:46.000 The same hijackers he was watching in Germany, he was watching here in Oklahoma. 0.96

01:09:50.000 And so that led me to believe that Oklahoma, for some reason, well, I can guess at the reason, is being used as some sort of support base for the state-sponsored terror.

01:10:03.000 Now, we also have a SWAT, and we have Jim Loftus, Chief Anti-Terror Expert, retired now with the Justice Department, even going on Fox News.

01:10:11.000 In fact, guys, dig that clip back out for me.

01:10:13.000 I want to play that later.

01:10:15.000 Coming out and talking about a SWAT being MI6 being protected.

01:10:19.000 He's the supposed mastermind of the London bombings, but he's known MI6 being protected.

01:10:24.000 He's in the U.S.

01:10:26.000 in Washington State.

01:10:27.000 The Justice Department and FBI want to bust him there.

01:10:30.000 They're told back off, leave him alone.

01:10:32.000 So over and over again, every time we find one of these terror nests, it turns out to be handled and controlled by Western intelligence.

01:10:42.000 You're talking about Harlan Oswald.

01:10:42.000 That's correct, Alex.

01:10:45.000 His accomplices were tried for running an Al Qaeda camp in Washington State.

01:10:49.000 Somehow he managed to escape from that, and that came to Britain.

01:10:52.000 Supposedly masterminded the Lebanon bombings. 0.99

01:10:54.000 That same modus operandi was used in 9-11, I mean, in the Oklahoma City bombing.

01:11:01.000 You see the same standard operating procedure.

01:11:03.000 You see these people with apparent immunity getting away doing the same thing over and over.

01:11:07.000 And we've got living together and driving around on buses together.

01:11:11.000 Nick Berg, the young man who wanted to go help people with communications goodies.

01:11:17.000 Classic CIA folks.

01:11:19.000 Uh, traveling around in Iraq, and then clearly gets his head cut off inside Abu Ghraib.

01:11:25.000 Same yellow walls, same white chairs. 0.89

01:11:28.000 Uh, clearly Westerners dressed up like Arabs sawing his head off. 0.96

01:11:32.000 Uh, forensics experts look at it and say the body was clearly already dead.

01:11:35.000 He'd probably been killed by a sniper or something in combat, and they probably just sawed his head off.

01:11:40.000 Well, this will make him look like a patriot.

01:11:42.000 I mean, Lord knows what really went on, but we've got Nick Berg, admittedly, with these guys too. 0.97

01:11:47.000 I mean, this is ridiculous!

01:11:50.000 Nicholas Berg, like you said, his laptop was used to email Zachary Mosawi in Minnesota, from Oklahoma to Minnesota, where Mosawi had recently moved.

01:12:00.000 According to CNN and Nick Berg's father, the story is that Nick Berg lent his laptop to a complete stranger on a transit bus and gave him his password so this unknown party could email Mosawi.

01:12:15.000 Nick Berg was of course investigated by the FBI for this.

01:12:19.000 And of course he was cleared.

01:12:20.000 But, I mean, for one thing, this was in 2001.

01:12:23.000 Nick Burke wasn't even a student at OU then, and...

01:12:26.000 Buses in Oklahoma, they did not have wireless technology in 2001.

01:12:30.000 They did not.

01:12:31.000 It's just a complete fabrication of a story, and this story is accepted by the media with no further examination.

01:12:38.000 That's right.

01:12:39.000 In 2001, wireless might be in your house or in your business, but there were no wireless networks on the roads.

01:12:45.000 No one that I know, five, six years ago, was driving around with wireless laptops.

01:12:51.000 No, no one.

01:12:51.000 I mean, the technology was rare, if available at all.

01:12:56.000 I mean, there weren't wireless networks on the roads is the point.

01:13:00.000 Yes, you're correct.

01:13:01.000 But it's the same people, look, I mean, it's in my film Road to Tyranny.

01:13:05.000 We have the LA Times, the Washington Post, All admitting 5,000 Iraqi Republican Guard, 3,000 by Bush, 2,000 plus by Clinton, brought in.

01:13:15.000 They're in terror cells all over the U.S.

01:13:17.000 They were trained in the 80s, brought back in, sheep-dipped. 0.92

01:13:20.000 They're on U.S. 0.98

01:13:21.000 government payroll.

01:13:22.000 They're in every major city. 0.86

01:13:23.000 They are ready to burn and blow up every major U.S. 0.84

01:13:27.000 city if the government gives one order. 0.98

01:13:29.000 And then there's plausible deniability, because if any of them get caught, oh, it's Arabs. 1.00

01:13:34.000 I mean, we can really see this setup coming from a mile away, and Norman, Oklahoma, and a couple different flight schools and government bases, this seems to be the main nexus point for these operatives.

01:13:46.000 So break down what's in your detailed report.

01:13:49.000 Well, first of all, I break down all the terrorist activity in Norman, Oklahoma itself, because that has been the focus.

01:13:55.000 That's my hometown.

01:13:56.000 We had Muhammad Atta and Mohamed El-Sheikh training there as a pilot.

01:14:01.000 We had Osama Bin Laden's personal pilot actually came there in Norman in 1993 to train at Airman Flight School.

01:14:07.000 The FBI issued a memo about all these ARABs training in Oklahoma, called weapons of mass destruction, but nothing was done.

01:14:14.000 Then, of course, Jackson Moussaoui came here in 2001 to train.

01:14:18.000 And on OU campus, if you consult my report, The most insidious thing about this is the presence of CIA agent David Edger.

01:14:30.000 He was in charge of the Hamburg cell that monitored Attaw and while Massali was talking to this apartment, while he was calling them, Edger was listening in.

01:14:41.000 And what is strange about it is that Edger was not just a regular case officer.

01:14:46.000 Prior to that, he had been the Deputy Director of Intelligence for Operations.

01:14:51.000 of the CIA, which is the covert operations branch of the CIA.

01:14:54.000 It's one of the highest positions in the agency.

01:14:56.000 He took an apparent demotion to watch this little rinky-dink show in Hamburg, which in his own words, he said he heard nothing about it.

01:15:04.000 He heard nothing of interest in that apartment while he was watching it for two years.

01:15:09.000 And then he gets appointed to OU as a CIA officer in residence, not retired.

01:15:14.000 He is the CIA man on campus at OU, University of Oklahoma.

01:15:19.000 And He is present while Attah and Maselli have their meeting here in Oklahoma.

01:15:23.000 He shepherded Attah from Germany to Oklahoma. 0.56

01:15:26.000 We can only assume that he was running Oklahoma into things, or he was Attah's handler.

01:15:31.000 I mean, that's just speculation, but that's the only thing that makes sense.

01:15:35.000 Yeah, he's following these people around.

01:15:37.000 Let's add some more background.

01:15:38.000 We have the Dean of the Defense Language School going public saying Bush carried out 9-11 San Jose Mercury News, and he's threatened with arrest.

01:15:46.000 He shuts up.

01:15:47.000 He says, we trained these guys in high-level spy training at the Defense Language School.

01:15:52.000 Then we have them trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, MSNBC, Pensacola News Journal.

01:15:57.000 Then we have two different embassies heads saying they were on terrorist watch lists, but they were ordered to let them, that is Al-Qaeda, Adda, and others, back into the U.S.

01:16:06.000 We've interviewed them right here, folks.

01:16:08.000 Let them back into the U.S. 1.00

01:16:09.000 because, quote, they're part of an anti-terror training op.

01:16:12.000 We know these guys were on the government payroll.

01:16:15.000 I mean, we have it from every angle you can imagine.

01:16:17.000 Please continue.

01:16:22.000 Well, I mean, well, Edgar was watching a tie in Hamburg.

01:16:26.000 He was watching them in Oklahoma most probably, but this surveillance did nothing to stop the attacks.

01:16:31.000 We can only assume that Edgar's mission, whatever it was, was successful.

01:16:36.000 And going into Nicholasburg, I mean, I mean, that's not the only terrorist activity that occurred in Oklahoma.

01:16:44.000 One of the plane tickets was purchased at an OU computer terminal for Ziad Jarrah.

01:16:49.000 This despite the fact that Jarrah had been detained in Dubai not too long before this and questioned at the request of the CIA because they knew he was an allocated terrorist.

01:17:00.000 He was released, he came to Oklahoma and purchased a ticket, but this raised no red flags.

01:17:05.000 How come he can purchase a ticket in Dubai and be questioned, but he purchased a ticket In the United States, in Oklahoma, and nothing is done about it.

01:17:14.000 And according to the librarian who witnessed the transaction, and told the FBI about it, the man who bought this ticket was not an Arab.

01:17:21.000 He was a white American male.

01:17:23.000 We have affidavits to support that.

01:17:26.000 I mean, he was described as a skinhead.

01:17:29.000 I mean, something really spooky is going on in Oklahoma, in Norman specifically.

01:17:33.000 And that motel that Moussaoui and Attal had their meeting in, In Oklahoma City was the same motel that, you know, six years previously, Ken McVeigh was seen in with Hussein Al-Husseini.

01:17:47.000 A probable agent provocateur.

01:17:50.000 Exactly.

01:17:51.000 Let's go back.

01:17:52.000 Then we have all these surveillance camera tapes and three separate trials that the government refuses to release, which FBI agents have told the LA Times shows the Hussein individual with McVeigh.

01:18:04.000 Why don't the Feds want us to know that there are these Arabs involved?

01:18:07.000 Because these are Arabs we know brought in by the U.S. 1.00

01:18:10.000 government in their employ.

01:18:12.000 That's part of the public record.

01:18:13.000 So you start putting this together.

01:18:15.000 I mean, this is incredible.

01:18:18.000 If Hussein al-Husseini was a former supposedly Iraqi Republican Guard member, but there was also a story that he was jailed by Saddam Hussein, if that's true, we probably can guess who he was working for.

01:18:31.000 And he was identified as John Doe number two.

01:18:33.000 People saw him stepping out of the Ryder truck in front of the Murrah building after McVeigh left it.

01:18:38.000 But they won't allow those tapes to be released, but we have FBI agents on record.

01:18:42.000 So, we'll continue with more details, more facets of this Fascinating story.

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01:23:03.000 We'll play that little clip, too, of John Loftus on FOX talking about a SWAT being protected and working for MI6, Haroon, a SWAT.

01:23:14.000 It's the same story, same people, same handlers.

01:23:19.000 Holland, tell us about the head of the university there in Oklahoma.

01:23:23.000 It's not just this David Edger.

01:23:26.000 And then you guys also had folks that sat in on some of his classes where Edgar brags about what work he did.

01:23:32.000 Tell us all about it.

01:23:34.000 Well, first of all, the OU president is David Boren, who you probably know on the national scene.

01:23:42.000 He was a senator from Oklahoma, he was former governor, and he served on the Senate Intelligence Committee as chairman.

01:23:48.000 He had the longest tenure in Senate history as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

01:23:56.000 He's also Skull and Bones.

01:23:57.000 That is correct, he's Skull and Bones.

01:24:03.000 He is the one who personally appointed David Edger to OU in the weeks prior to 9-11 in the summer of 2001.

01:24:12.000 And David Boren is a deceptive person.

01:24:15.000 David Boren is a deceptive person. 1.00

01:24:20.000 First of all, he is gay. 1.00

01:24:21.000 And that's a rumor in Oklahoma, and people know it. 0.98

01:24:26.000 Some people don't.

01:24:27.000 But a book came out in 1994 by his former Oxford roommate detailing his homosexuality, which is fine. 1.00

01:24:34.000 I don't care about anyone's sexual orientation, but the deceptiveness about it is what irks me. 1.00

01:24:40.000 And that's probably why David Boren chose not to run for re-election in 1994.

01:24:45.000 That was kind of a surprise move for a very powerful man in the Senate.

01:24:51.000 And David Bourne runs a pretty tight ship at OU.

01:24:55.000 There's pretty much a culture of fear among the campus paper and the faculty and so forth.

01:25:04.000 And there's a lot of research by Michael P. Wright into his shenanigans on campus and favoring certain young men.

01:25:10.000 I mean, it's really just a sad story.

01:25:15.000 I don't want to sound like, you know, I'm trying to spread gossip about the man, but this is... I don't want to, you know, frankly, I want to stick to the terrorism stuff, but we've got all this weird stuff going on, is your point?

01:25:25.000 Yeah, and let me just add one more thing, that according to Al Martin's conspirators, a book, David Boren was compromised in 1984 by the intelligence community because of his proclivity, so I mean... Well, that sounds like it's par for the course, so that's why you brought it up.

01:25:43.000 CIA blackmail schemes against Congress and so forth, they've been in the paper, I mean, the Washington Post, all that, in the 80s.

01:25:50.000 Sure, I understand.

01:25:51.000 Getting back into just this whole plethora of buzzards circling the area there in Norman, Oklahoma, why do you think they've chosen this as a base of operations for these patsies and decoys?

01:26:04.000 Well, obviously it's safe ground to conduct covert operations.

01:26:07.000 The Oklahoma City bombing happened here, and we all know the reams of evidence That proved the government was lying about that.

01:26:13.000 And you know what?

01:26:14.000 They got away with it.

01:26:15.000 The local media in Oklahoma is very tightly controlled.

01:26:18.000 They dropped all those stories investigating Hussein al-Husseini, talking about second and third bombs found at the building.

01:26:26.000 All of those stories were dropped.

01:26:27.000 It's like those reporters on TV never said those things.

01:26:30.000 Those words never came out of their mouths.

01:26:33.000 And so the media is in the establishment's pocket.

01:26:36.000 The law enforcement community in Oklahoma is compromised.

01:26:40.000 They cooperated with the cover-up.

01:26:42.000 of the Oklahoma City bombing, and those individual officers who chose to tell the truth were punished, sent before punishment boards, forced retirements, harassment, or murdered.

01:26:52.000 And Terrence Yackey was murdered in a very bloody manner, and his death served as an example.

01:26:58.000 And I've talked to police officers who are scared because of what happened to Yackey.

01:27:03.000 Very scared.

01:27:04.000 I've had a police officer cry in front of me because of what I revealed had happened to Yackey.

01:27:12.000 This is safe ground.

01:27:12.000 They got away with it in Oklahoma City and nothing by the law enforcement or media in this state was done, so that's why they continue to use it.

01:27:20.000 So you talk to officers and they know what's going on, but they're scared?

01:27:24.000 They're scared.

01:27:24.000 They know.

01:27:25.000 They know beyond a doubt what happened.

01:27:28.000 Not all of them, but the ones who knew Yakey and knew what he was trying to reveal, what he was trying to talk about, he was the first officer to respond to the bombing.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, he was cop of the year.

01:27:38.000 Yes, and he was an outstanding officer in every way.

01:27:42.000 He was, I've talked to his family members, he was an outstanding man in every way.

01:27:46.000 And because of that, he chose to uphold his oath to protect the public.

01:27:50.000 He would not lie.

01:27:51.000 He would not forget what he had seen in that building.

01:27:56.000 And he paid the price for it, unfortunately.

01:27:58.000 We're going to go to break here in just a moment.

01:28:03.000 Holland, what are some of the other key points that you make in this essay you've written, which is excellent, that you'd like to relate to the listeners when we get back?

01:28:12.000 Well, I'd just like to talk about the fact that this Al-Qaeda cell in Oklahoma, Warren Norman, is operating under protection and is probably going to be used again in the future, a la the Heinrich Suicide Bombing, which I believe was a foul-up.

01:28:26.000 That's right, we've got the young man blowing himself up at a football game, that was kept very quiet.

01:28:30.000 Now, folks, they'll take a jackhammer and make it national news, or a WMD attack, Why did they clamp down on that so fast?

01:28:40.000 We'll be right back.

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01:32:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:32:03.000 Nick Berg, 9-11 hijackers, Oklahoma City bombers.

01:32:16.000 all in Norman, Oklahoma.

01:32:19.000 up.

01:32:21.000 CIA high-level agents fluttering around.

01:32:24.000 Former heads of Senate Intelligence Committees, the heads of the University.

01:32:29.000 All of this happening, the same MO over and over again.

01:32:32.000 Here's Mr. Loftus, who we interviewed, and of course he said even more on this show, but here's the Fox News clip where the former Justice Department anti-terrorism chief expert talked about how Haroon Aswad was being protected by key elements of the CIA and MI6.

01:32:51.000 From the FBI and others.

01:32:52.000 Because again, these entire agencies aren't doing this.

01:32:55.000 It's certain key compartments that are doing it.

01:32:57.000 Compartments at the top.

01:32:59.000 Let's roll this little Fox News clip.

01:33:05.000 Of all the bombings in London, on the 7-7 and 7-21, this is the guy, we think.

01:33:11.000 This is THE guy, and what's really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the British government, MI6, or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him.

01:33:22.000 And this has been a real source of contention between CIA, Justice Department, and Britain.

01:33:27.000 Hold on, John.

01:33:28.000 MI6 has been hiding him.

01:33:29.000 Are you saying that he has been working for them?

01:33:33.000 Oh, I'm not saying it.

01:33:34.000 This is what the Muslim sheikh said in an interview in a British newspaper back in 2001.

01:33:39.000 So he's a double agent?

01:33:41.000 He's a double agent.

01:33:41.000 Or what?

01:33:44.000 So he's working for the Brits to try to give them information about Al-Qaeda, but in reality he's still an Al-Qaeda operative?

01:33:50.000 Yeah.

01:33:51.000 The CIA and the Israelis all accused MI6 of letting all these terrorists live in London, not because they were getting Al-Qaeda information, but for appeasement.

01:34:02.000 It was one of those, you leave us alone and we leave you alone kind of things.

01:34:05.000 Well, we left him alone too long then.

01:34:07.000 Absolutely.

01:34:08.000 Now, we knew about this guy Oswald back in 1999.

01:34:11.000 He came to America. 0.63

01:34:13.000 The Justice Department wanted to indict him in Seattle because him and his buddy were trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon.

01:34:20.000 So they indicted his buddy, right?

01:34:21.000 But why didn't they indict him?

01:34:23.000 Well, it comes out, we've just learned, That the headquarters of the U.S.

01:34:27.000 Justice Department ordered the Seattle prosecutors not to touch Oswalt.

01:34:32.000 Hello!

01:34:33.000 Now hold on.

01:34:34.000 Why?

01:34:36.000 Well, apparently Oswalt was working for British Intelligence.

01:34:39.000 Now Oswalt's boss, the one-armed Captain Hook, he gets indicted two years later.

01:34:46.000 So the guy above him and below him get indicted, but not Oswalt.

01:34:50.000 Now, there's a split of opinion within U.S.

01:34:52.000 intelligence.

01:34:52.000 Some people say that the British intelligence fibbed to us.

01:34:55.000 They told us that Aswat was dead.

01:34:58.000 And that's why the New York Group dropped the case.

01:35:01.000 That's not what most of the Justice Department thinks.

01:35:03.000 They think that it was just, again, covering up for this very publicly affiliated guy with al-Mujarraf.

01:35:09.000 He was a British intelligence plant.

01:35:11.000 So all of a sudden, He disappears.

01:35:14.000 He's in South Africa.

01:35:15.000 We think he's dead.

01:35:16.000 We don't know he's down there.

01:35:17.000 Last month, the South African Secret Service come across the guy.

01:35:21.000 Yeah, now CIA says... He's alive!

01:35:22.000 Oh, he's alive!

01:35:23.000 Our CIA says, okay, let's arrest him.

01:35:25.000 But the Brits say no again?

01:35:27.000 The Brits say no.

01:35:28.000 Now, at this point...

01:35:31.000 Two weeks ago, the Brits know that the CIA wants to get a hold of Haroon.

01:35:36.000 So what happens?

01:35:37.000 He takes off again.

01:35:38.000 Goes right to London.

01:35:39.000 He isn't arrested when he lands.

01:35:41.000 He isn't arrested when he leaves.

01:35:42.000 Even though he's on a watch list.

01:35:44.000 He's on the watch list!

01:35:46.000 The only reason he could get away with that was if he was working for British Intelligence.

01:35:49.000 He was a wanted man.

01:35:50.000 Alright, so there's the clip from FOX with Mr. Loptis.

01:35:56.000 We're talking to Holland Vanden Heuvelhoff and he's our guest.

01:36:00.000 He's of course a former Marine.

01:36:02.000 And local activists in Oklahoma City, investigative journalists out there, freelancing, getting the truth out.

01:36:08.000 He's got this big detailed report, Oklahoma, the Axis of Evil, expanded exclusively for Infowars.com, originally published for Cerebellum.tv.

01:36:19.000 It's up on Infowars.com right now.

01:36:22.000 Hanlon, I'd like your permission to add a little bit to the headlines so people know exactly what it is they're looking at.

01:36:28.000 I'd like to, okay, then I'll add a sub-headline to it, you know, Giant Government Terror Training Nest in Oklahoma, Protecting Terrorists, how does that sub-headline sound to you, something like that?

01:36:40.000 That sounds very appropriate.

01:36:43.000 We're about to go to some calls, but bottom line, you've been studying this.

01:36:46.000 Everything in your article is checked out from my research.

01:36:49.000 In fact, it's even worse.

01:36:50.000 We've got this whole history of this.

01:36:52.000 We know they're being protected.

01:36:53.000 I've had other police detectives and many others on this show, FBI, lawyers, who've covered this.

01:36:58.000 We know there's 5,000 Iraqis trained in the 80s here, brought back.

01:37:02.000 They were double agents against Saddam, even when he was our ally, brought back in. 0.83

01:37:07.000 They're now being used to deal narcotics, weapons, to finance their operations.

01:37:12.000 Every time cops bust them, the Feds tell them, let them go.

01:37:16.000 We know they're in every major city.

01:37:18.000 We know they're in Austin, they're in Dallas, they're in Houston, they're in Oklahoma, they're in LA, they're in Detroit, they're in New York.

01:37:23.000 The globalists give the order, and these people start blowing stuff up.

01:37:26.000 Do you agree with that statement?

01:37:28.000 Our government's using and controlling these guys?

01:37:30.000 Or do you want to add anything to that?

01:37:31.000 Give us the big picture.

01:37:33.000 I totally agree, but you know, the fact is, these guys that are being used, they may not even know who they're working for.

01:37:39.000 They may actually believe that they're working for Osama Bin Laden, or Muslim Jihadists, or whatever.

01:37:45.000 I mean, that's the principle of intelligence operations, is that the operators, the limited hangout guys that you That you offer out there a sacrifice, really have no clue as to who their true master is.

01:37:57.000 And because that offers possible deniability.

01:38:00.000 And it also offers a limited hangout if they should get caught.

01:38:03.000 Well, David Edger is a super high-level CIA agent involved in covert operations worldwide, very senior in the CIA, right before 9-11.

01:38:13.000 He shows up clearly as a handler.

01:38:15.000 He's involved there, and then boom, all this happens.

01:38:17.000 I mean, this stinks to high heaven.

01:38:20.000 And again, we have Nick Berg as a satellite of all of this.

01:38:23.000 It just never ends.

01:38:25.000 Yes, I mean, like David Edger, a colleague of mine went to David Edger's class at OU.

01:38:30.000 He admitted to watching Muhammad Atta in Hamburg, Germany.

01:38:34.000 He admitted to it, but he quickly undercut any questions as to, you know, hear anything interesting.

01:38:40.000 And he said he heard nothing of interest.

01:38:43.000 You're on a cell phone, aren't you?

01:38:45.000 Yes, I am.

01:38:46.000 I'm sorry.

01:38:47.000 It's cutting out real bad.

01:38:48.000 I'm sorry.

01:38:49.000 No, you're back now.

01:38:50.000 Repeat what you said.

01:38:51.000 Okay.

01:38:53.000 A colleague of mine went to this class, and he admitted to watching Muhammad Atta in Hamburg, Germany.

01:38:59.000 And, uh, buddy, you're hurting up here.

01:39:02.000 Did it again.

01:39:04.000 Stop right there.

01:39:05.000 We may not be able to continue.

01:39:07.000 Are you in the same spot you were earlier?

01:39:09.000 No.

01:39:10.000 We'll go back.

01:39:11.000 No, no, no.

01:39:11.000 I mean, are you in the same spot physically with your cell phone?

01:39:15.000 Uh, no, I'm not.

01:39:16.000 We're headed back right now.

01:39:19.000 All right.

01:39:20.000 Let me do this.

01:39:20.000 Let me try to take a few calls and we'll see if it gets better in just a moment.

01:39:23.000 Stay right there, Holland. 1.00

01:39:26.000 Let's go ahead.

01:39:27.000 These will be all over the map, but that's okay.

01:39:29.000 Paul in Vancouver, Canada.

01:39:31.000 You're on the air.

01:39:32.000 Go ahead, Paul.

01:39:33.000 Hi Alex.

01:39:35.000 Excellent, excellent show.

01:39:37.000 I just had a few points to make.

01:39:40.000 The previous call from Canada is right. 0.99

01:39:42.000 We are being pretty much conditioned.

01:39:45.000 The media here, they would never report anything that you report on.

01:39:51.000 Global or Canwest is the biggest media company here.

01:39:55.000 They reach 94% of Canada.

01:39:58.000 Half of the board is Jewish and they always seem to show that That extra 10 minutes of what's going on in Israel and Palestine when most people here don't even really care and they refuse to report on anything big. 0.80

01:40:11.000 I just had a few other points.

01:40:14.000 In Vancouver, I'm telling you the New World Order is coming, the North American Union is coming.

01:40:19.000 You know, a few months ago I saw a military ban with a United States military plate on it.

01:40:26.000 Speeding in the HOV lane with only one occupant.

01:40:30.000 And I'm thinking to myself, well what the hell is going on here?

01:40:32.000 What's this guy doing here?

01:40:33.000 Well sir, they've signed agreements.

01:40:34.000 You have U.S.

01:40:35.000 State Police.

01:40:37.000 From even Texas up in Canada running quote checkpoints to quote teach your police how to operate.

01:40:44.000 Now American cops are sent around our hemisphere to train people on how to set up a police state. 0.97

01:40:50.000 That's how pathetic we are.

01:40:51.000 It's been in your papers that the American Union is forming the CFR documents being implemented. 0.96

01:40:57.000 That's what this legalization of all these illegals Bush is pushing is all about. 0.51

01:41:01.000 Anything else?

01:41:02.000 Well, um, yeah, um, also, uh, last year I was disgusted.

01:41:07.000 The Drug Enforcement Agency came up here into Vancouver and basically shoved their way in and busted somebody for a, you know, a questionable crime.

01:41:17.000 I wouldn't even call it a crime.

01:41:18.000 Selling seeds of marijuana.

01:41:20.000 You know, there's a debate in itself.

01:41:22.000 And also, I just had a question for you.

01:41:23.000 Um, how long before, um, they start to try and chip us?

01:41:28.000 Because I figure there's between five and ten years left before... Alright, I appreciate your call, sir.

01:41:33.000 Everybody's always freaking out over the chips, and I've been talking about it long before most people were.

01:41:38.000 They're going to make prisoners do it, old people, when you go in the hospital. 1.00

01:41:43.000 They're going to start phasing it in, and really, that comes after the big terror attack.

01:41:47.000 Three or four more big terror attacks.

01:41:49.000 Because after every terror attack, they take more freedom, and the next attack's bigger, and they take more freedom, and the next attack's bigger, they take even more freedom, and they've got to condition you to, that's always the answer, give up your freedom.

01:42:00.000 But no, there really is a governmental, institutional move To push implantable, trackable RFID chips.

01:42:06.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:42:07.000 Your cell phone already tracks you.

01:42:09.000 RFID and products already tracks you.

01:42:11.000 We're on the verge in Texas of having RFID tracker chips in all of our inspection stickers to tax us and track us and trace us.

01:42:19.000 So all of that's going in.

01:42:20.000 It's already here, sir.

01:42:22.000 That's when it's going to start.

01:42:23.000 It's already here.

01:42:24.000 And the media kind of uses the microchipping us physically in our flesh As the extreme to make all the other bad stuff they do not look as bad.

01:42:33.000 Going back to our guest, Holland Vanden Nieuwenhoff.

01:42:39.000 Sir, are you in a better cell position now?

01:42:42.000 Can you hear me now?

01:42:43.000 Yes, I can.

01:42:44.000 What do you think about all, you know, just the general police state that's going into the US right now, but nothing being done with our borders except more smoke and mirrors?

01:42:54.000 Well, I mean, Just watching the 9-11 hijackers that are moving through Oklahoma into the United States, while they were known Al-Qaeda terrorists, most of these hijackers, I mean at least Mohammed Atta had been identified by Able Danger as an Al-Qaeda cell leader.

01:43:08.000 The other hijackers, one hijacker, Nawaf Al-Hamzi, got a speeding ticket in Oklahoma, despite the fact that he had been known as an Al-Qaeda terrorist since January of 2000.

01:43:19.000 Allowed into this country. 1.00

01:43:21.000 I mean, it's just ridiculous. 0.93

01:43:22.000 They want to restrict our civil liberties and punish the citizenry for their apparent fallops while we have Al Qaeda terrorists. 0.94

01:43:30.000 Flitting in and out of the country, I will, getting issued visas despite terrorist connections.

01:43:35.000 It's just, the dichotomy is maddening.

01:43:37.000 But they call the embassy head up and say, we don't care if he's red flagged, he works for us.

01:43:42.000 You see, we've got it from every angle that they work for the U.S.

01:43:46.000 government, and knowingly, folks.

01:43:49.000 Let's talk to Charles in Louisiana.

01:43:50.000 Charles, you're on the air.

01:43:52.000 Yes, sir, Mr. Jones.

01:43:52.000 Go ahead.

01:43:53.000 I want to report that ABC lost, uh, they, uh, broadcasters got hit.

01:44:00.000 And they're dead.

01:44:01.000 Two died.

01:44:02.000 Yeah, two of them died.

01:44:03.000 Others got wounded.

01:44:04.000 Yes.

01:44:04.000 That was yesterday.

01:44:05.000 Yes.

01:44:07.000 How do you think they feel about that?

01:44:08.000 Do they feel affected by that?

01:44:09.000 Or does it matter to them?

01:44:12.000 You know, CBS, I mean, they lied to us anyway.

01:44:15.000 Should we care about it?

01:44:17.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:44:19.000 The official U.S.-Israeli plan was to go into Iraq, break it down into three to four sections, have civil war.

01:44:27.000 So when you hear we're failing, no, they mean our troops to die, they mean it to be a quagmire while they build the bases, to then ratchet up the next level into Iran. 0.99

01:44:36.000 And so that's why generals were always getting replaced every three or four months, because they'd try to actually fix things and they'd say, no, you're fired.

01:44:44.000 We could have gone in there, got the lights on, got a government in, and none of this would have happened.

01:44:48.000 But our government has been caught, along with the Israelis and the British, bombing mosques, stirring stuff up, and then once they stirred it up, now it's really falling apart on its own. 0.64

01:44:57.000 Our troops can't leave the green zone.

01:45:00.000 It is all by design.

01:45:01.000 In fact, you're a former Marine.

01:45:03.000 Holland, you want to comment on this?

01:45:06.000 It's just a sad situation.

01:45:07.000 I mean, I feel for my comrades in arms, you know.

01:45:12.000 It's really You know, it was just Memorial Day yesterday.

01:45:15.000 When you're in the military, you really do not have a mind of your own.

01:45:19.000 Your condition to kill and to survive in a hostile environment and feelings of, you know, distrust of authority and reason and sympathy, empathy with your fellow human being, and actually with the enemy, are just not allowed in that survival mechanism, especially in a war zone.

01:45:38.000 These troops coming back, I've talked to some of them, and they're confused about what's going on over there, but they're still going to help you.

01:45:43.000 They cannot admit that their sacrifice was in vain, that they were tools, that their buddies died, you know, for a bunch of rich white guys who got out of Vietnam when they had their chance.

01:45:54.000 You know, they just will not, psychologically, they cannot admit that Our soldiers are dying in vain over there.

01:46:01.000 But the official U.S.

01:46:02.000 government battle plan said, balkanization strategy, break the place up, we want civil war.

01:46:10.000 Again, people think Bush is failing and is in a miserable job.

01:46:13.000 He has executed the entire operation.

01:46:16.000 He's getting rid of our borders, he's got us in a quagmire, he's doing everything he was supposed to do.

01:46:22.000 I agree.

01:46:24.000 I mean, it's just, you know, The only logical reason for the tremendous incompetence on the part of the military in Iraq is the fact that they are allowing this to happen.

01:46:35.000 There is no reason in the world the stupendous mistakes that Rumsfeld has supposedly made, that generals are criticizing him for. 0.95

01:46:42.000 Rumsfeld's not a dumb man. 1.00

01:46:44.000 He didn't get to where he is by being dumb. 0.96

01:46:45.000 I mean, the things that have ratcheted up the civil war in Iraq have been classical obvious mistakes that no one should have made, that every general advised against, yet Rumsfeld made the military do these certain things, disband the army, you know, I mean, just do things that would guarantee a civil war. 0.97

01:47:07.000 And by the way, by the way, they know in the handbook 101 that you don't just go into the farming belts and bulldoze every date palm, every tangerine orchard to quote "teach the people a lesson." Everything they did was textbook to make people revolt.

01:47:25.000 Exactly.

01:47:26.000 I mean, it's really a sad situation.

01:47:28.000 I didn't realize that until recently.

01:47:30.000 I was just so, I was actually kind of, you know, enlightened by the fact that ...that our plans were not working in Iraq, but then I realized this is the plan.

01:47:38.000 This is what they want.

01:47:39.000 Well, sir, we have an 83 Israeli document, we have a 99 Pentagon document, and we have a British document from 2002.

01:47:45.000 The plan is three to four parts.

01:47:47.000 Now, if you listen to NPR or watch PBS, they'll go, we've got a new plan.

01:47:52.000 We'll break it in three to four parts.

01:47:54.000 We're going to do the same thing.

01:47:55.000 Oh, this guy wrote a document about it.

01:47:57.000 Hey, this'll work.

01:47:59.000 And so it was the plan all along.

01:48:00.000 Charles, anything else?

01:48:02.000 Yes, sir.

01:48:03.000 When do you think they'll get these churches?

01:48:05.000 I've been calling the churches asking them if, you know, Homeland Defense has gotten in touch with them in a way.

01:48:11.000 They're telling me no, but I don't believe them.

01:48:14.000 But when do you think they're going to confiscate these guns?

01:48:17.000 Well, it's FEMA. 0.90

01:48:18.000 It's FEMA, 13,000 plus counties confirmed.

01:48:20.000 That's official.

01:48:21.000 Brainwashing the pastors to tell their practitioners that when the emergency comes, obey the government, turn in your guns, go to the emergency center, quarantine yourself.

01:48:31.000 It'll come.

01:48:32.000 Probably not after the next attack.

01:48:34.000 They'll have another beta test, only take guns in a certain area.

01:48:38.000 Then, down the road, you see each event gets bigger, each event is a laboratory in and of itself.

01:48:44.000 And so that's when that'll happen, Charles.

01:48:45.000 Mr. Jones, do you think the American people, do you think they'll try to They'll turn them in or they're going to give them up?

01:48:53.000 Yeah, I think most people will turn their guns in.

01:48:56.000 I think about 10% will refuse to the point of troops coming to their door, and I think about half of those will shoot back.

01:49:04.000 And 5% of 100 plus million gun owners is over 5 million, and these armies will be completely wiped out.

01:49:12.000 What do you think, Holland?

01:49:14.000 Actually, I totally agree.

01:49:17.000 We can see in fourth-generation warfare, which is what guerrilla warfare is evolving into, that stateless forces have a tremendous advantage over the slow-moving forces of an oppressive state.

01:49:28.000 And if that would happen, I kind of feel sorry for the people who would take the gun down.

01:49:32.000 I think it's going to be a slaughter.

01:49:34.000 Hopefully, it never comes to that, though.

01:49:36.000 Well, that's why they've got to do it in slow motion.

01:49:38.000 I mean, everybody always goes, look at the military!

01:49:40.000 They're so big, they'll tromp us! 0.98

01:49:42.000 Folks!

01:49:43.000 If 5 million of you have the will, nothing could stop us.

01:49:47.000 You understand?

01:49:48.000 We could take this country in 12 hours.

01:49:50.000 We'll be right back.

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01:52:53.000 If the government tried a mass takeover, total gun confiscation, and called it that, it won't work.

01:53:07.000 They'll call it new security parameters.

01:53:11.000 ID cards will have five different levels of identification for citizens.

01:53:15.000 You'll have the trusted citizens and the untrusted citizens in that gamut.

01:53:20.000 And I keep calling it practitioners, it's parishioners.

01:53:23.000 I know that.

01:53:24.000 Sometimes I get a word in my head and use the wrong one.

01:53:27.000 A practitioner is like a... he practices medicine or he practices something else.

01:53:33.000 But it's parishioners that the pastors are brainwashing right now.

01:53:38.000 But there is a stated plan.

01:53:40.000 The military has been trained.

01:53:42.000 FEMA has stated plans.

01:53:43.000 It's PDD 25.

01:53:45.000 I've interviewed emergency managers that have been briefed.

01:53:47.000 I have some of the documents.

01:53:49.000 To take our guns.

01:53:50.000 That's part of the record now.

01:53:51.000 You saw New Orleans.

01:53:53.000 This is what the military does.

01:53:54.000 They beta test.

01:53:55.000 They take real life operations and they call that a warfare laboratory.

01:54:00.000 And that's what happened in New Orleans.

01:54:02.000 And they will do that nationwide.

01:54:04.000 They want your guns.

01:54:06.000 Believe me, guns are the only thing holding back total tyranny in this country.

01:54:11.000 They take all your pension funds right now, folks, but they can't because they know there will be war on the streets.

01:54:16.000 Very, very serious.

01:54:17.000 Ron in Oklahoma, you're on the air with our guest, Holland.

01:54:21.000 Go ahead, Ron.

01:54:22.000 Alex, it's becoming fairly common knowledge here in Oklahoma City that the FBI and the ATF blew up the Murrow building because of the mess they made at Waco.

01:54:33.000 ATF was in the process of being disbanded.

01:54:38.000 They had already started to draw down the office here in the city.

01:54:41.000 Approximately a year before the bombing... Well, you say FBI, BATF.

01:54:45.000 They were certainly involved, but no, they had Arabs that were CIA that did it. 0.68

01:54:49.000 Well, I'm not saying that they personally did it hands-on, but I know the bombing survivors, a group of the bombing survivors... Oh, believe me, sir, I've made two films about it.

01:54:59.000 We've hired attorneys to try to sue the government, but at the last minute, the attorneys always back out.

01:55:07.000 So the information is circulating here.

01:55:10.000 Apparently someone is harassing their attorneys.

01:55:15.000 So how many Oklahomans, let me ask Holland that, and let me ask you that respectively, Ron.

01:55:20.000 What percentage of Oklahomans that you talk to know Oklahoma is a cover-up, Holland?

01:55:26.000 What percentage?

01:55:26.000 Well, it depends on how old they are.

01:55:28.000 I mean, the young kids, the 18-year-old college kids, I mean, they're 8-year-olds.

01:55:33.000 But people who are in Oklahoma City, Who were adults, I would say 80% know at least something was fishy about it.

01:55:43.000 They may not go all the way, most of them won't because they cannot deal with that fact psychologically.

01:55:48.000 But I would say 80% of the people in Oklahoma City know that something was fishy with that.

01:55:54.000 I mean, the vast majority of people, even just bringing it up in conversation, They know that someone is lying.

01:55:59.000 They know, they have a suspicion that John Doe number two was involved, that he wasn't some fictitious Where's Waldo character.

01:56:06.000 Ron, give us your take.

01:56:08.000 Alex, the attitude is shifting dramatically.

01:56:12.000 At first, everybody said I was a lunatic because I said there was something wrong with the bombing.

01:56:17.000 I called it the Reichstag bombing.

01:56:20.000 We were constantly bombarded by propaganda 24 hours a day.

01:56:24.000 They never shut up.

01:56:25.000 Reminded me of Joseph Goebbels.

01:56:27.000 I knew there was something wrong, along with the other things that I saw.

01:56:31.000 Everybody said I was crazy.

01:56:32.000 Oh, no, no, Doug.

01:56:34.000 FBI did a thorough investigation.

01:56:36.000 But now the mood is shifting.

01:56:39.000 And people are becoming more aware, even though our media here is so controlled, Alex.

01:56:45.000 We don't hear anything.

01:56:47.000 I know.

01:56:47.000 Oklahoma's bad.

01:56:49.000 I mean, it is a black hole. 1.00

01:56:49.000 It's terrible. 1.00

01:56:52.000 And anyone who speaks out is harassed.

01:56:55.000 You know, I told you that.

01:56:56.000 Well, it's like Arkansas.

01:56:57.000 You've got these old backwater states.

01:56:59.000 Beautiful states.

01:57:00.000 I love Oklahoma.

01:57:01.000 Great people.

01:57:01.000 I love Arkansas.

01:57:03.000 But you've got good old-boy boss hogs that fit into the network quite nicely. 1.00

01:57:09.000 Holland, I want to thank you for joining us.

01:57:11.000 Folks can read your detailed article at InfoWars.com.

01:57:13.000 And Ron, I want to thank you for the call.

01:57:15.000 Holland, we'll be talking to you again in the future.

01:57:17.000 And anything else you put together, please send it to us.

01:57:20.000 I look forward to it, Alex.

01:57:20.000 Outstanding.

01:57:21.000 Thank you.

01:57:22.000 You've done a really good job here.

01:57:23.000 You've knocked a long home run here out of the park.

01:57:27.000 We'll come right back and take more calls and have another guest coming up.

01:57:27.000 All right.

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:08.000 Gypsy Taube is joining us after this first break. 0.99

01:58:12.000 She and others go around wherever members of the 9-11 Commission or their age are engaging in propaganda functions covering up the fact that 9-11 is an inside job.

01:58:22.000 She blows a whistle, gets everybody's attention and lets them have it. 1.00

01:58:25.000 We're going to play some of these audio clips.

01:58:27.000 Some of them are really clear, some of them aren't.

01:58:29.000 They try to drag her out. 0.82

01:58:31.000 We'll also talk about this teacher who's being suspended for talking about 9-11 privately in the lunchroom with another teacher.

01:58:39.000 It's all coming up.

01:58:40.000 Right now, let's go back to the calls.

01:58:42.000 Tom in Arkansas.

01:58:44.000 Tom, you're on the air.

01:58:45.000 Welcome.

01:58:46.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:58:47.000 I have only two things to go over at the moment.

01:58:50.000 I was directly involved in the setup for 9-11, and I sent you a packet of literature shortly thereafter.

01:58:58.000 And I'd like to talk to you privately about that, but I just want to point out, I think things are accelerating.

01:59:04.000 I'm feeling a tremendous amount of energy in the air.

01:59:07.000 I went through my book collection last night and I found a book here called The Great Controversy.

01:59:13.000 I would hope that your listeners are aware of that book because I think, among other points, The point is, I think they're hiding some really basic information.

01:59:24.000 Myth number one... Well, sir, I get sent thousands of pieces of information.

01:59:28.000 We try to read it all, look at it all.

01:59:29.000 I don't remember your info.

01:59:32.000 Tell us, how were you involved in the pre-planning of 9-11?

01:59:37.000 I am a photographer, and it all began when I visited with KBR.

01:59:42.000 Shortly thereafter, I had an offer to photograph the headquarters for Star Wars.

01:59:48.000 And then I went to New York City where I was involved photographing the World Trade Towers.

01:59:52.000 Do you recall that information?

01:59:55.000 No, I don't recall it.

01:59:56.000 I'm sorry.

01:59:57.000 Okay, I went to make a presentation confronting the evidence and I was bumped off the stage by Jimmy Walter because I was improperly dressed and I don't think he got the point.

02:00:09.000 Okay, I don't know anything about all this, sir.

02:00:12.000 So, the point is that in this event, of photographing the property, I was assigned to do what we called the Bridgeways Project.

02:00:24.000 And the objective was to photograph not the buildings, but those buildings that surrounded the property.

02:00:30.000 So from various advantage points, I was there photographing for a month and a half to cover facades of each additional property for whatever purposes I wasn't told.

02:00:42.000 Essentially, the story evolved That the buildings eventually needed to come down.

02:00:50.000 A project had been undertaken, Controlled Demolition, Inc., positively connected here, had delivered a package of assessment material on what it would take to demolish the buildings.

02:01:05.000 And at that point on that day, in fact the day that the topping out of the steel on Building 7 was completed, They shut down the offices of the engineering office in World Trade Tower No.

02:01:19.000 1, North Tower, and made all of us sign a waiver that we had nothing to do with the building, would never speak about the building, had no photos, plans, drawings, any related information concerning the building.

02:01:33.000 Goodbye.

02:01:33.000 Now, I was the newest guy on the staff and really unknown by the people who were in this operation of shutting down the property.

02:01:43.000 And they didn't know me because I had never been in the building before, but obviously I'd been photographed or spotted, so they made me sign like everybody else.

02:01:52.000 Now, a lot of the engineers had been there 10 and 15 years.

02:01:56.000 You've got to understand... Okay, you know what?

02:01:58.000 When did you send me this information?

02:02:01.000 September 20th, 2001.

02:02:05.000 Okay, can you send it again?

02:02:07.000 You betcha!

02:02:08.000 Okay, thanks for the call, sir.

02:02:09.000 I appreciate it.

02:02:11.000 Certainly there was a lot of pre-planning for what they did.

02:02:13.000 I can't confirm what you're saying.

02:02:15.000 Send it to me again and I'll pay attention to it.

02:02:17.000 I don't know how I missed that, but who knows, maybe it didn't get to me.

02:02:22.000 Alright, Gypsy will be joining us after this quick break. 1.00

02:02:26.000 Some riveting audio clips, several different issues.

02:02:28.000 We're talking about 9-11 activism.

02:02:30.000 And this goes for activism on any issue.

02:02:34.000 Property rights, Second Amendment, border, any issue that you're involved in, this lady is a real champion.

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02:05:51.000 All told, I've got a nine-minute clip of Gypsy Tab, who is an American who, of course, was born in Moscow, who is an American who, of course, was born in Moscow, and she exhibits more what we'd think of as classical American attributes than the average Fat, dumb, and happy person out there that watches TV 24 hours a day. 0.97

02:06:22.000 And Gypsy, these videos are up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now. 0.98

02:06:27.000 And she confronts Zelikow, the head staffer for the 9-11 Commission, who was, from all the evidence shows, clearly involved in some of the operations of 9-11.

02:06:39.000 To see it when she blows the whistle, the face he makes, and then she confronts him with 9-11 evidence of an inside job.

02:06:47.000 He gets very, very upset and they drag her off and she confronts many other people.

02:06:52.000 So what we'll do is we'll play clips and then after we play the clips she'll tell you who it was that she was confronting.

02:06:58.000 That's the best way to do it.

02:07:01.000 Now I have a clip of a high school substitute teacher.

02:07:04.000 Who simply talked about 9-11 being an inside job in the lunchroom with other teachers, and they're all demanding he be expelled, that he be suspended.

02:07:13.000 Well, he is suspended now because you just can't talk like this.

02:07:16.000 We are the new Soviet Union and he needs to basically go to a work camp.

02:07:22.000 Gypsy Tom, thank you so much for coming on with us.

02:07:24.000 You've got a lot of courage and we can all take examples from what you did.

02:07:29.000 Thank you.

02:07:31.000 Gypsy, tell us a little bit about yourself and why you decided to start physically confronting these monsters. 0.99

02:07:38.000 Well, I'm from Russia and I left there in 1986 and I was basically raised in an environment of fear.

02:07:48.000 You know, things were just like every day.

02:07:50.000 Everybody went to school and to work and there were good things and bad things.

02:07:56.000 It didn't look all that horrible on the surface, but at the same time you couldn't tell a joke.

02:08:01.000 You couldn't express a different opinion in your history class.

02:08:04.000 I was kicked out of school because I wasn't as pro-government as they wanted me to be in my history classes.

02:08:12.000 I basically told my teacher that I'm not going to go to her classes because it's nothing but propaganda.

02:08:17.000 Gypsy, can you back off your phone just a little bit? 1.00

02:08:20.000 Thanks.

02:08:24.000 Anyways, I was raised in this environment of fear, and I came to the States thinking it was going to be free, and I realized it wasn't as free as I was hoping, and now things are going in a very bad direction, and I recognize all the same signs of all the same stuff that I was raised with, and I'm just, this time I'm not going to leave the country like I did in Russia.

02:08:47.000 This time I'm going to, you know, fix the problem.

02:08:49.000 That's my goal.

02:08:52.000 Well, Gypsy, there's nothing more patriotic. 1.00

02:08:54.000 I wish, you know, Americans have had it so good, they don't know what they're losing.

02:08:59.000 But I talk to people from the Eastern Bloc, from China, from Cuba, they know, they say, man, I've seen this before, this is bad. 0.99

02:09:09.000 Right, exactly.

02:09:11.000 And people here think that just because they wake up and the sun is shining in the morning and they go to work and You know, they sleep with their wife and all that kind of stuff.

02:09:19.000 They think it's not going to happen here.

02:09:21.000 And they imagine Russia or Nazi Germany to be some dark, black and white place with concentration camps all over the place.

02:09:28.000 It's not how it was.

02:09:30.000 You know, you would never know by going out on the street that there was something wrong, except there were big slogans, you know, all over the place.

02:09:37.000 But other than that, you know, life was as usual.

02:09:39.000 And it seemed to be as usual.

02:09:41.000 And it was like a normal place.

02:09:43.000 Yet all of these things happened, and like most of my family from my grandparents' side, more than half the family was literally executed, was in exile, and was destroyed completely.

02:09:57.000 That's what happened to my grandparents' families.

02:10:01.000 So there was a lot of fear.

02:10:03.000 People were afraid to do anything because this is what happened to their parents.

02:10:08.000 And that's a good place to start.

02:10:09.000 Before we play the clips of you valiantly confronting these scumbags, let's play this local news clip where a well-accredited, by the way, school teacher, listen to his credentials, simply talked quietly at a lunch table and they don't think that he should be allowed to do this, so he's been suspended and they're talking about him never getting his job back. 0.65

02:10:31.000 Go ahead and roll this clip.

02:10:36.000 Live from the NBC 4 studios, this is NBC 4 at 11, working for you.

02:10:44.000 The First Amendment right to free speech may be at the center of a debate as a substitute teacher fights for his job.

02:10:50.000 He told another teacher this week the United States may be partly responsible for September 11th.

02:10:55.000 That remark could end his career as a sub in Columbus.

02:10:59.000 David Wayne has the story only on 4.

02:11:02.000 Thomas Mustrick describes himself as a political anthropologist promoting peace when meeting with dignitaries in international locations.

02:11:09.000 For two years, he's been a sub for Columbus Public Schools.

02:11:12.000 But his remarks at Griggs High Monday could end that career.

02:11:15.000 In a letter to the district, the principal details Mustrick's conversation with another teacher.

02:11:19.000 He had told her that 9-11 was planned and orchestrated by the United States government.

02:11:23.000 Mustrick says that's his right.

02:11:25.000 Number one, I don't discuss any of these kinds of things in our classroom.

02:11:28.000 I stay right with the topics.

02:11:29.000 I do what I need to be doing.

02:11:31.000 And it's inappropriate to challenge somebody on a constitutional grounds when it's just a private conversation.

02:11:40.000 The teacher wrote her own account saying Mustrick also talked about getting regular phone calls from an unnamed person using a code name.

02:11:46.000 She goes on to say, if these ideas are delusions, I believe that Mr. Mustrick should not teach in schools where students would gullibly believe his statements.

02:11:54.000 It could be an uphill battle for Mustrick.

02:11:57.000 As a substitute, he doesn't have union representation or a contract.

02:12:01.000 The district says schools have the right to use or not use any substitute.

02:12:04.000 Mustrick remains optimistic.

02:12:06.000 It'll all work out in the end.

02:12:07.000 You know, generally the truth will prevail.

02:12:09.000 A teacher on the learning curve of what's acceptable and what's not.

02:12:13.000 David Wayne, NBC4.

02:12:15.000 The teacher plans to fight for his substitute job during a hearing this coming Monday at district headquarters.

02:12:21.000 And we're going to be getting Mr. Mustrick on.

02:12:23.000 Comments, Ms.

02:12:25.000 Talb?

02:12:27.000 Well, this sounds a lot like home.

02:12:30.000 Except things were even worse.

02:12:32.000 I would say that teacher would have been long since expelled from school in my country.

02:12:37.000 And even a student, you know, you couldn't tell a joke on the phone, for instance, because the phones were bugged.

02:12:44.000 Telling jokes, you know, my parents told us stuff but we weren't allowed to talk about it to anybody else because there'd be big trouble.

02:12:51.000 So this is headed in that direction and I feel that it's even more dangerous because the U.S.

02:12:56.000 has a lot more, a much better developed military-industrial complex and the computers are by far more sophisticated than what we had in Russia so the spying on citizens and all that is a lot worse here, can be a lot worse.

02:13:12.000 Now, tell us when you decided to... Carol Bruguier also was in one of these clips.

02:13:18.000 Great lady.

02:13:18.000 I've been involved for years exposing 9-11.

02:13:20.000 When did you decide to start going to these meetings?

02:13:23.000 Tell us about some of these clips we're going to be hearing.

02:13:26.000 Well, I was living in Hawaii before 9-11 and I decided to move to San Francisco to become an activist.

02:13:32.000 And then, this was before it even happened.

02:13:35.000 And then I moved to San Francisco and I got involved in the anti-war movement.

02:13:39.000 And I knew that 9-11 was an inside job right away.

02:13:42.000 And I was looking for information, and I met Carol at an anti-war rally.

02:13:47.000 She was tabling, and I bought a book called War on Freedom by Nafiz Ahmed.

02:13:52.000 And, you know, that's how I hooked up with Carol, kind of became an activist slowly.

02:13:57.000 You know, now I have public access shows.

02:14:00.000 I have, how many?

02:14:01.000 Six public access shows right now here in the Bay Area, and, you know, I have weekly events.

02:14:07.000 I just put on a big event for loose change, the Grand Lake Theater, so I'm doing as much as I can with three children.

02:14:13.000 I'm kind of restricted time-wise, but I've been involved.

02:14:17.000 I was involved for a while before I blew the whistle, but it sounded like a great idea.

02:14:21.000 Carol told me that some woman on the East Coast had this idea of the whistle.

02:14:25.000 And I just loved it.

02:14:27.000 It was just something I would have loved to do.

02:14:29.000 So I did it.

02:14:30.000 Now we haven't been able to confer with you which clip will play first.

02:14:33.000 I just uploaded them to the network.

02:14:35.000 So we're going to play each of these six clips and let you comment on each one.

02:14:38.000 Let's go ahead and roll one of these now.

02:14:43.000 Everyone was an inside job.

02:14:45.000 Shame on the cover of commissions.

02:14:46.000 90% of the questions asked by the scientists were never answered.

02:14:51.000 Or even asked.

02:14:52.000 What happened to Building 7?

02:14:53.000 Why did it collapse in 7 seconds in the matter of controlled demolition?

02:14:58.000 How come the firefighters were reporting explosions in the Twin Towers?

02:15:03.000 How come the debris from the Twin Towers was hauled off and sold to other countries for cheap before the investigation had a chance to take place?

02:15:11.000 Who benefited from the foot option on the United and American Airlines and how come that was never investigated?

02:15:18.000 How come Ron's still defending his duties during the attacks?

02:15:23.000 Why did Bush continue reading a ghost story for 20 minutes after he was informed that Alex was dead?

02:15:30.000 What happened to the eight black ruffles on the plane?

02:15:35.000 The flight 93 was never shut down?

02:15:38.000 Why was the debris trashed over 9 miles?

02:15:41.000 What was the 99 behind 9-11 doing visiting Tokyo as official?

02:15:47.000 And they drag her out.

02:15:48.000 Tell folks about that particular clip.

02:15:51.000 people like you are going to help.

02:15:58.000 And they drag her out.

02:16:00.000 Tell folks about that particular clip.

02:16:03.000 Well, this was a big upscale dinner in downtown San Francisco with all these important people in there.

02:16:09.000 There were waiters running around serving food and drinks.

02:16:13.000 And it's very important that they know that we know, but go ahead.

02:16:16.000 Right, right.

02:16:18.000 The head of the police was sitting right next to me.

02:16:20.000 I was hoping there wouldn't be any cops there, but she was right at the next table.

02:16:25.000 She didn't do anything, though, to stop me.

02:16:28.000 They just... Well, it was Ben Venista that I confronted, and... A member of the 9-11 Commission.

02:16:37.000 Yes, it was a member of the Keene Commission, and, you know, we know that the Keene Commission is a big cover-up, and...

02:16:43.000 You know, I was present at the Mike Rupert's presentation at the Commonwealth Club, where he talks about the biographies of these people, and it's nothing but conflicts of interest and criminal background.

02:16:55.000 It's awful.

02:16:56.000 So they're all totally awful.

02:16:59.000 So I confronted him asking all these questions.

02:17:01.000 We were never allowed to ask questions.

02:17:03.000 They would always be censored out, and we were just allowed to give questions on a piece of paper, and then they would just never read them.

02:17:09.000 So I stood up and asked all these questions.

02:17:11.000 That's right.

02:17:12.000 Later they always say in these clips, you have been allowed to ask questions.

02:17:15.000 We took questions.

02:17:17.000 No, no, no.

02:17:17.000 It's pieces of paper passed forward.

02:17:19.000 Stay there.

02:17:20.000 We'll come back and play five more clips.

02:17:23.000 And they get even better.

02:17:24.000 I wish you could see the Zelikow video.

02:17:27.000 For folks that have computers, go to mpolewars.com.

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02:17:31.000 He looks like he got run over by a Mack truck.

02:17:34.000 He looks as guilty as a cat caught with a canary in his mouth.

02:17:40.000 You know when Sylvester gets caught trying to eat Tweety Bird?

02:17:43.000 That's the look on his face.

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02:21:50.000 Gypsy Town is our guest.

02:21:54.000 Grew up in Russia. 0.72

02:21:55.000 Knows a police state when she sees it.

02:22:00.000 The creeping intimidation, the control, the free speech zones, all of it.

02:22:08.000 And there's clip after clip of her and others blowing the whistle and then confronting These different commission members and other members that supported it, like Zelikow, who was really the head of the commission, but he was the quote, head staffer.

02:22:24.000 Let's go ahead and play the next clip.

02:22:27.000 In penetrating our civil aviation security system, they went 19 for 19.

02:22:33.000 That's not the product of luck or good fortune.

02:22:38.000 That's the product of planning and training.

02:22:40.000 They had practiced boarding aircraft, That's funny, I was waiting for you to go.

02:22:49.000 Light on!

02:22:55.000 Light on!

02:22:59.000 Zelle Cal is panicking right here. 0.99

02:23:24.000 Keep rolling it.

02:23:27.000 You are disrupting this meeting and you are required to leave.

02:23:32.000 And anyone else who seeks to disrupt this meeting will be escorted from it.

02:23:37.000 Thank you very much.

02:23:40.000 I will repeat myself again.

02:23:42.000 Anyone else who seeks to disrupt this meeting will leave.

02:23:45.000 Is that understood?

02:23:50.000 Yes you can.

02:23:52.000 How about, how about the bodies of the heads of the murderers, the different morphs of the bodies, from the bodies of, uh, Sash and the White Man, Sash?

02:24:02.000 These chains conducted war game exercises on September 11th that involved fake blinks and simulated hijackings.

02:24:10.000 We will follow the same procedures.

02:24:12.000 If it happens again.

02:24:13.000 Yes, if it happens again. 1.00

02:24:15.000 You are the biggest terrorist on this planet, you and your CIA buddies. 0.99

02:24:23.000 And Zelichow is totally shaken. 0.99

02:24:26.000 One of my members of staff here said he didn't look like a cat that grabbed the canary.

02:24:31.000 He looked like somebody who'd done something in their pants, but I'm not going to go that far.

02:24:35.000 Now, in other cases, these special forces looking type guys come get on both sides of her, and this is what professionals do, and they start talking right in both your ears, real loud, trying to stop you from being able to talk so they can drag you out.

02:24:50.000 Didn't work with this lady. 1.00

02:24:52.000 I only wish that the folks videotaping her would give her a handheld mic or a wireless.

02:24:57.000 That way we could hear all of her crisp audio.

02:24:59.000 But tell us, Gypsy, about the particular confrontation with Zelikow. 0.99

02:25:06.000 And for those that don't know who Zelikow is, tell us.

02:25:11.000 Well, Zelikow is, you know, according to my group, that's where I heard mostly about Zelikow.

02:25:18.000 Um, you know, he's basically the head of the commission, and he was asked to resign because of his conflicts of interest.

02:25:23.000 He had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice, and he's really tight with the White House, so he should have never been on there.

02:25:30.000 Um, you know, so he... I confronted him just because I confronted everybody who came to the Bay Area.

02:25:39.000 And, um, he was really, um, if anybody was really mad, he was the maddest one of all of them.

02:25:47.000 And, um, Um, so as far as the police at, um, it was actually kind of interesting.

02:25:54.000 The police that were there, they were, um, dressed in regular clothes, and they escorted me out, and then they escorted Carol out, and that older policeman that was there.

02:26:03.000 He begged us to not go inside anymore, because he was supposed to arrest Carol, and he said he had to arrest the next person that went in, and he just let us go.

02:26:11.000 And, um, he actually thanked us for expressing ourselves, believe it or not.

02:26:16.000 Um, you know, may believe the same kind of things we believe.

02:26:20.000 Um, and then with, um, the last clip was, um, or should we talk about that after the clip?

02:26:27.000 Go ahead and tell us about the clip that's coming up and we'll play it when we get back.

02:26:31.000 Yeah, um, the Jamie Gorilla clip, um, it was kind of interesting because, um, you know, I really wanted to do it and, um, my babysitter didn't, uh, totally flaked on me because I guess she was afraid of what I was going to do and, um, I brought my little children.

02:26:47.000 They were like 2 and 4 years old.

02:26:51.000 Carol was outside and I asked her to babysit them for me while I blew the whistle.

02:26:55.000 I didn't know if I was going to be arrested or not.

02:26:57.000 I asked her to take them a couple blocks away so they wouldn't see it if I get dragged out.

02:27:01.000 They wouldn't be traumatized by watching that.

02:27:04.000 I had to take care of them until I got out of jail.

02:27:07.000 So she did and she took them.

02:27:09.000 I went upstairs.

02:27:10.000 I was pregnant with my third child.

02:27:13.000 I blew the whistle.

02:27:14.000 It was really fun.

02:27:16.000 It was a smaller crowd there, but it was still really fun to do.

02:27:20.000 Well, I want you to know, I'm going to start blowing the whistle.

02:27:23.000 I like it.

02:27:24.000 It's a way to get everybody's attention.

02:27:26.000 We'll be right back after this quick break with our guests.

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02:30:55.000 Couple months ago, I dropped the ball big time.

02:30:59.000 Please.

02:31:00.000 Thank you.

02:31:30.000 Thank you.

02:31:53.000 We're back live.

02:31:54.000 I'm down here in Austin, Texas.

02:31:55.000 The network's up in Minnesota.

02:31:57.000 Lately, we've had connection problems.

02:31:59.000 I was about to reconnect during the break.

02:32:01.000 We ran out of time and I said, this thing's getting bad.

02:32:04.000 You can't hear it, but I was hearing it getting choppy and sure enough it cut out.

02:32:08.000 Finishing up what I was saying, a few months ago, I dropped the ball big time.

02:32:12.000 I'd just gotten back from LA on a project out there that we're working on secretly.

02:32:18.000 And I had been on the air in two days.

02:32:19.000 I needed to do a live show.

02:32:22.000 Chairman Keene was coming to Round Rock, Texas, or Georgetown to be specific, up there at the University, and I knew Bob Dacey and Kevin Smith and others were going to go, and they weren't polite.

02:32:35.000 Bob Dacey was, oh, thank you, sir, for your answers and things.

02:32:38.000 I wouldn't have done it.

02:32:39.000 They did bring up Building 7 being imploded.

02:32:41.000 They did bring up how there was funding by General Mahmoud Ahmed To the supposed hijackers. 0.95

02:32:48.000 And of course, Keem was very smug and very disgusting. 0.79

02:32:50.000 I couldn't have controlled myself. 0.95

02:32:51.000 I would have called him an accomplice to murder after the fact right there.

02:32:55.000 I mean, those commissioners took secret testimony.

02:32:57.000 They knew what really went on.

02:32:59.000 Their job was to cover up and lie.

02:33:00.000 Their whole report's a fraud.

02:33:02.000 And I should have gone to that.

02:33:04.000 I should have gone to that.

02:33:05.000 But we did post the video of the questions we did ask.

02:33:08.000 And people did confront him and yell at him when he was up on the dais giving a speech and said it was an inside job.

02:33:14.000 And then the police wouldn't let my people have a 9-11 as an inside job banner.

02:33:20.000 Anywhere around the university.

02:33:21.000 They made them go to soccer fields, baseball fields, hundreds and hundreds of yards away where no one could see them.

02:33:28.000 That's the freedom in America.

02:33:29.000 The cops laughed at them.

02:33:30.000 They said, Oh, free speech zones over there!

02:33:32.000 Ha ha ha ha! 0.96

02:33:34.000 Killing America is so much fun! 0.99

02:33:36.000 Killing the First Amendment! 0.96

02:33:37.000 Going back to a lady who didn't back down and who does bring out the real evidence. 0.99

02:33:42.000 Before we play this final clip that we have time for here and take some calls, Mrs. Taub, why don't you go over some of the things that you were raising to them, or if you had five minutes, to really get in their face and confront them, what some of the smoking guns are that you would cover?

02:33:59.000 Well, I would say, from all the footage that I've seen and, you know, showing it to people, I think the most convincing is Building 7.

02:34:09.000 When people look at it, you just watch it fall and all you have to do is use your own eyes.

02:34:14.000 You don't have to rely on anybody else's information.

02:34:18.000 You just see it, and it's right there.

02:34:20.000 You can see that it's definitely not being destroyed by fire, and the way it's falling down is obviously controlled demolition.

02:34:27.000 With the Pentagon, I think it's also very obvious that if you look at the pictures before the facade of the Pentagon collapses, it's a perfectly round tiny hole, and there is no plane anywhere in that picture or any other pictures, and going through all those layers of Reinforced concrete.

02:34:44.000 A plane couldn't have done it, and as they say, if it evaporated, as some people claim, then how could it have gone through so much concrete?

02:34:53.000 I think it's very incriminating that we were never shown the videos of the plane hitting the Pentagon.

02:34:58.000 We were shown the towers being hit, God knows how many times.

02:35:02.000 How come we don't have such nice video of the Pentagon?

02:35:06.000 I will never believe that there weren't any security cameras on the Pentagon.

02:35:10.000 You have security cameras everywhere nowadays, so don't tell me that you don't have footage.

02:35:15.000 And that they released in the newspapers a few days ago just shows a trail of smoke.

02:35:22.000 There is no plane in there.

02:35:24.000 There's not anything resembling a plane.

02:35:26.000 And it's funny that they would even release it and expect you to think that there was a plane there.

02:35:32.000 Well, I think what they want to do, Mrs. Taube, is raise the debate so they can later bring out CRISPR fake video.

02:35:39.000 That's what I see happening.

02:35:41.000 Let's play this final clip, and then, who is it you're confronting particularly in this clip?

02:35:47.000 This is Jamie Gorelick, and she's one of the KEEM Commission members also.

02:35:52.000 Let's go ahead and roll it.

02:35:53.000 Here it is.

02:35:54.000 We couldn't.

02:36:02.000 Tribute.

02:36:24.000 of the US government.

02:36:26.000 What happened to Building 7?

02:36:27.000 Larry Silverstein admitted that it was demolished as explosives.

02:36:31.000 You're not going to get away with your crime again if you've had an order.

02:36:34.000 And she's literally yelling as they drag her out of the door. 1.00

02:36:40.000 This is so important.

02:36:42.000 Everywhere these creeps go, everywhere these cover-up artists travel, we need to confront them.

02:36:47.000 We need to speak out against them.

02:36:49.000 We need to use the First Amendment while we still have a few shreds of it left. 0.99

02:36:54.000 And I've even seen Cucker Carlson, of course, who's the grandson of a robber baron, just like Anderson Cooper is.

02:37:02.000 I mean, literally, they can only find their own elite to go tell lies now.

02:37:05.000 He admitted a few weeks ago, he said, this 9-11 truth movement, it's getting big.

02:37:09.000 You're going to hear more of it.

02:37:10.000 You're going to hear more.

02:37:11.000 We have the Zogby polls between 66 and 50 percent, depending on which poll.

02:37:15.000 I believe the government was involved now, not just covering up.

02:37:19.000 We have CNN polls where it's 83 to 90 percent, depending on the poll.

02:37:24.000 I go on all these other talk radio shows and do interviews, even with hostile A host attacking me.

02:37:31.000 Most of the callers, if not all the callers, call in and agree with me.

02:37:34.000 Same thing on my own talk show.

02:37:37.000 Same thing on my own TV show.

02:37:38.000 We don't screen the calls.

02:37:41.000 I've had hosts throw fits and admit their screening calls when I'm a guest and say, no one's calling in to disagree with him!

02:37:47.000 It must be a full moon!

02:37:48.000 I'm ending this interview! 0.99

02:37:49.000 You're all crazy! 0.98

02:37:51.000 And so they've got a big problem on their hands. 0.97

02:37:55.000 The exponential growth, the 9-11 Truth Movement, all of the other corruption coming out, all of the other facts coming out, this administration and the controllers that are manipulating it are in trouble.

02:38:06.000 That's why Ray McGovern said we're in great danger yesterday of our own government staging an even bigger terror attack very, very soon to get us into war with Iran.

02:38:15.000 Comments to that, Gypsy Tob? 1.00

02:38:19.000 Well, I'm hoping that there won't be another attack, even though I see that it's possible.

02:38:24.000 But I think they're, since all the exposure of the 9-11 stuff, I think they are afraid of doing another attack.

02:38:32.000 I think we would have had many more by now if we hadn't been doing our job and exposing them.

02:38:39.000 So I'm just hoping that it won't happen.

02:38:41.000 Madrid was exposed within days.

02:38:43.000 And for those that don't know, major Spanish papers are saying it was the Spanish security services.

02:38:48.000 And the supposed bombers were all in the employ of the National Bomb Squad.

02:38:53.000 They were, quote, informants.

02:38:55.000 Then we have the London bombing, clearly an inside job.

02:38:58.000 Now most Brits and Poles believe that. 0.94

02:39:00.000 That's why they had to shut up about that.

02:39:02.000 You don't hear about it anymore.

02:39:03.000 We are really fighting them and having an effect. 0.95

02:39:07.000 I mean, we're going toe-to-toe with the biggest propaganda bureau in the world, the Allied Crime Syndicates, Gypsy, and we're actually starting to beat their butts. 0.99

02:39:16.000 I'm sorry to use that term, but we're starting to kick their hind ends. 0.97

02:39:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:39:22.000 That's what's happening.

02:39:24.000 The last few months have just accelerated so much and things are just hitting the fan big time now and it's really growing exponentially.

02:39:33.000 There's no stopping it.

02:39:34.000 Jim, do me a favor.

02:39:36.000 Let's watch our language here.

02:39:37.000 It's a family show, okay?

02:39:38.000 Okay.

02:39:39.000 I'll have to edit that out now when we re-order that.

02:39:42.000 But it doesn't matter.

02:39:43.000 Your accent couldn't really tell what you said.

02:39:44.000 Maybe you said something else.

02:39:45.000 The point here is that You know, it feels good to have the initiative.

02:39:50.000 It feels good.

02:39:51.000 Can you imagine what it was like for myself two months before 9-11 to go on the air and say they're going to attack the World Trade Center and claim their asset?

02:39:58.000 Bin Laden did it. 0.66

02:39:59.000 Or to go on the air day one and lay this out?

02:40:02.000 Oh my God!

02:40:04.000 Well, that's what I did, and I'm very, very proud, and it feels good to know that people like you are out there carrying the torch.

02:40:12.000 Looking at the video, they look scared of you, this little woman, standing up and speaking out.

02:40:17.000 They look like guilty people caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

02:40:21.000 Can you expound on that?

02:40:23.000 Yeah, and the thing is, when I was going to do it, I was really afraid.

02:40:27.000 I was having all these nightmares about how I wasn't able to do it.

02:40:31.000 And I finally went there, and once I confronted them, you know, you realize that they don't really have the power that you think they have.

02:40:38.000 And once the truth comes out, they are completely powerless. 0.98

02:40:42.000 They're just a bunch of chicken heads, quite frankly. 0.97

02:40:45.000 And we shouldn't be afraid of them. 0.95

02:40:46.000 It's really sad that we're afraid of them.

02:40:47.000 That's how they're controlling us, is through fear.

02:40:49.000 They don't really have the kind of power we think they have, you know.

02:40:52.000 I'm sure you know the story of Ceausescu in Romania.

02:40:56.000 Oh yeah, yeah, the President.

02:40:58.000 Why don't you tell people what happened?

02:41:00.000 That guy got overthrown in one day.

02:41:02.000 Yeah, I don't have all the details of what happened.

02:41:06.000 I just know that, yeah, it was a very horrible dictatorship, even worse than Russia from what I heard.

02:41:13.000 The people were living without electricity and there was all kinds of repressions.

02:41:19.000 I just know that like his body got dragged across the whole city and didn't he get like As soon as his verdict was pronounced that he was guilty, didn't he get like six bullets in him right away from the audience?

02:41:32.000 Yes.

02:41:32.000 Yeah, so people weren't going to let him out of that building.

02:41:36.000 Alive.

02:41:37.000 I mean, you could just tell how much anger there was in him.

02:41:40.000 Well, he tortured and killed hundreds of thousands, but the point is, he wore these big, fancy military outfits, was totally oppressive, just for his own pleasure.

02:41:48.000 They had surveillance cameras everywhere.

02:41:51.000 And finally, just one day, grassroots, on the streets, people said, I'm sick of this!

02:41:55.000 And the cops went, yeah, go ahead and do whatever you want!

02:41:57.000 Yeah, we're sick of it!

02:41:58.000 Yeah!

02:41:59.000 And everybody started saying, you think the same?

02:42:01.000 You think the same?

02:42:02.000 We don't... Everybody hated it!

02:42:04.000 Everybody knew it was a lie, they were afraid, and finally the dam broke.

02:42:08.000 Right, right.

02:42:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:42:10.000 Exactly.

02:42:12.000 With Russia, a similar thing happened, I think, when people decided that they've had enough. 0.82

02:42:17.000 You know, things really changed in 91.

02:42:20.000 I don't know, even though it was the government that initiated the coup and people just didn't put up with it.

02:42:25.000 They just all went to the streets and they just, it was liberty or death at that point.

02:42:32.000 So I think, you know, people are waking up and American people are waking up as well at this moment.

02:42:39.000 Really amazing to witness this and we're really starting to win in a very obvious way.

02:42:45.000 Things are just accelerating so much.

02:42:48.000 Well, I'm finishing my new film, Terror Storm, and I'd like to put the video clips of you and others confronting these creatures as the extras.

02:42:57.000 Do I have authorization to use that?

02:42:59.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

02:43:00.000 Absolutely.

02:43:01.000 Good.

02:43:01.000 Well, I'm going to get it there in the film.

02:43:03.000 Thank you so much for that.

02:43:04.000 Let's take a few calls.

02:43:05.000 These will be all over the map.

02:43:07.000 Let's go to Stewart in Texas, then Jason, Cindy, and Mark.

02:43:10.000 That's all we have time for.

02:43:12.000 Stewart in Texas.

02:43:13.000 I think this is the Stewart I know who got sent to the free speech zone, and he did scream out at Keene and say it was an inside job.

02:43:21.000 He did what I should have done.

02:43:23.000 Go ahead.

02:43:26.000 First off, I want to come in to a guest.

02:43:29.000 These cell phones are just horrible, Stuart.

02:43:32.000 I really can't hear you.

02:43:33.000 Okay.

02:43:34.000 A little better?

02:43:35.000 Yeah.

02:43:36.000 Can you stay in one spot?

02:43:37.000 Yes.

02:43:38.000 Go ahead.

02:43:38.000 Okay.

02:43:39.000 Okay.

02:43:39.000 I just feel like a whistle idea.

02:43:42.000 We need to give these.

02:43:46.000 Yeah, we're going to have to drop you, Stuart.

02:43:48.000 Sorry, it just did.

02:43:49.000 And by the way, the new cell phones have come out and they're worse than the old one.

02:43:52.000 People say, why do you keep this old cell phone?

02:43:54.000 Which they're not going to let me have in about six months.

02:43:56.000 I'll have to get the new trackable one if I want one.

02:43:58.000 It's because it works.

02:43:59.000 You can hear me. 0.99

02:44:01.000 And these new cell phones are total junk. 0.91

02:44:03.000 Sorry, Stuart, I wanted to hear from you. 0.90

02:44:06.000 Jason in Maryland, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:44:09.000 Hi Alex, I was wondering, I read on the internet the other day about German and Czechoslovakian troops come through Canada and doing work and war games in our country today.

02:44:22.000 I was wondering if you heard anything about that or what you know about which, what foreign troops are here and how many?

02:44:29.000 Thank you.

02:44:30.000 Well, it won't be like Red Dawn.

02:44:32.000 We won't go with a bang, but with a whimper.

02:44:34.000 It's just multinational forces, Mexican troops in New Orleans, Dutch troops, Dutch AWACS, British troops.

02:44:41.000 I've been to urban warfare drills where they have foreign troops back in the late 90s admitting it's for domestic operations.

02:44:46.000 We've got Fort Polk, Louisiana on video where they're training to put Americans in camps.

02:44:51.000 You know, it's just the same thing over and over again.

02:44:53.000 They signed a deal three years ago to quote, use Mexican and Canadian troops to quote, patrol America.

02:44:59.000 So it's public.

02:45:00.000 It's the American Union.

02:45:01.000 Just like in the EU now, they use quote, foreign troops in different areas.

02:45:05.000 You want to comment on that, Gypsy? 1.00

02:45:08.000 Well, I don't really know as much about this, but I guess the idea of a world government is definitely, this is what it's about, I think.

02:45:18.000 Because I guess Americans against Americans isn't They probably don't think it's going to work as good anymore.

02:45:23.000 It's always better to put people of a different nationality against. 1.00

02:45:27.000 Like in Russia, when they sent people to Afghanistan, and when people asked, so why should we shoot at the people there? 0.98

02:45:35.000 And they said, because behind you will be these guys from, you know, also the Soviet Union, but from a different republic where people speak a different language.

02:45:42.000 And they're going to shoot at you if you don't shoot at them.

02:45:45.000 So they put people against each other who are unfamiliar with each other.

02:45:49.000 I think it's easier It works better than, you know, when you have people fighting their own.

02:45:54.000 You hit the nail on the old proverbial head there.

02:45:57.000 Let's talk to Cindy in Delaware.

02:45:59.000 Cindy, go ahead. 1.00

02:46:00.000 Hi.

02:46:04.000 Welcome to America, Jim.

02:46:05.000 It's great.

02:46:08.000 Good to have you here.

02:46:09.000 Listen, I wanted to call Alex to tell you something that happened to a neighbor of mine last week.

02:46:15.000 She called the police to report, you know, dialed 911 to report that she thought her son had been molested by an older boy.

02:46:22.000 And when the police came out to her house, they responded with about 12 police, and four of them stood in front of her.

02:46:32.000 She has a split-level house.

02:46:33.000 Four of them stood in front of her so that she couldn't, you know, do anything but sit there on a couch.

02:46:39.000 And the rest of them proceeded to go into her bedrooms Hers, her son's, they wanted to get into the locked office door.

02:46:47.000 They even were going into the attic.

02:46:50.000 Yeah, that's what happens.

02:46:52.000 A lot of times when you call the police now, they come and search your house.

02:46:57.000 And she said to them, hey, I know enough to know if you don't have a search warrant, you can't be doing that.

02:47:03.000 And that has nothing to do with why I called you.

02:47:06.000 And you know what they told her, Alex?

02:47:08.000 They said, ma'am, we have to clear the area.

02:47:12.000 Clear the area!

02:47:13.000 Now, I almost couldn't believe it when she told me this story.

02:47:16.000 So the next day, I went and called the, you know, the regular police station.

02:47:23.000 And a woman officer answered, and she told me, she goes, oh yeah, I do that all the time. 0.99

02:47:27.000 Whenever I go into a house on a call, I clear the area first to make sure there's no one else there.

02:47:32.000 I said, isn't that a good stopping tactic?

02:47:36.000 Well, it's one thing if there's been a shooting or a robbery, you think there's a burglar, but I mean, none of you...

02:47:43.000 Well, the same thing's happened to me.

02:47:44.000 I've called the police and my car's been stolen in Dallas.

02:47:47.000 I'm at a girlfriend's house.

02:47:48.000 And they go, we're going to search this apartment.

02:47:50.000 And they searched it and they go, do you have any weapons?

02:47:53.000 And you're like, no, my car got stolen.

02:47:56.000 And it's just this mentality.

02:47:58.000 I appreciate your call.

02:48:00.000 Gypsy, was it like that in Russia where if you called the police they'd end up rifling through your stuff? 1.00

02:48:05.000 You know what, believe it or not, it was totally different.

02:48:09.000 Our police were not allowed to carry weapons.

02:48:11.000 And you would hardly ever see a policeman on the street.

02:48:14.000 You're lucky if you saw them once a week.

02:48:16.000 Or even less.

02:48:18.000 There were not nearly as many cops there.

02:48:20.000 We were never searched.

02:48:22.000 But statistically you had lower crime too, right?

02:48:25.000 I'm not sure we may have had lower crime.

02:48:27.000 I know that a lot of our crime was not reported.

02:48:30.000 I think fear.

02:48:31.000 People had a lot of fear, so the fear itself ruled people pretty well.

02:48:34.000 Yeah, stay there.

02:48:35.000 We'll talk about it more on the other side.

02:48:35.000 Stay there.

02:48:37.000 Less searches back when she lived in the Soviet Union, in Moscow.

02:48:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:51:40.000 We'll take a final call from Mark in Canada and let...

02:51:50.000 Our guest, Mr. Tao, will finish up.

02:51:52.000 Before we do that, tickets are really starting to go fast.

02:51:57.000 For our big 9-11 Symposium, American Scholar Symposium, we're putting on in Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.

02:52:07.000 And you now got, what, 24 days to get your tickets.

02:52:11.000 You can call the toll-free number if you don't have a computer.

02:52:13.000 We will mail you out a physical ticket.

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02:52:23.000 Go to InfoWars.com.

02:52:25.000 We're going to have Ray McGovern there.

02:52:26.000 He's only been to one other 9-11 event, folks.

02:52:28.000 He's going to do a big presentation.

02:52:30.000 The former head The Star Wars program will be exposing 9-11 as an inside job.

02:52:35.000 We're going to have Professor Stephen Jones, the physicist, exposing it.

02:52:41.000 So many other people, surprise guests, you can probably guess who that'll be, but they want to be a surprise.

02:52:48.000 Get your tickets.

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02:52:52.000 We're adding a student discount of Well, a ticket is $74.

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02:53:31.000 This event is going to be historical.

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02:53:44.000 Final caller, Mark in Canada.

02:53:45.000 A lot of calls from Canada today.

02:53:47.000 You're on the air, Mark.

02:53:49.000 Hey Alex, I just had a quick question.

02:53:52.000 Is it possible for Arnold to be the President?

02:53:56.000 And if he does get in, is there going to be trouble?

02:53:59.000 Well, they were trying to position him nationally.

02:54:01.000 Now he's in trouble.

02:54:03.000 I think we beat that back for now, but they've said they want to position him for President.

02:54:07.000 They've introduced legislation to remove and change the Constitution so he can.

02:54:12.000 Okay, well I hope he doesn't because That could be scary.

02:54:18.000 Also, do you know if there's going to be some sort of March for Truth or something, some sort of event in Washington or New York on September 11th?

02:54:28.000 Yes sir, there always is.

02:54:29.000 There's a bunch of different groups that do that and they all join up together.

02:54:32.000 Thank you for the call.

02:54:33.000 GypsyTown, here in closing, any other comments?

02:54:38.000 Loose Change are doing, it's going to be the 5th anniversary of 9-11 and Loose Change are inviting everybody to Ground Zero.

02:54:46.000 of this year for 9-11.

02:54:47.000 Absolutely.

02:54:48.000 And I just wanted to also say, Alex, that I really admire you and you're definitely my hero.

02:54:55.000 And thank you for your courage and for your passion.

02:54:59.000 And one thing I have to say, one thing I like about you so much is that you're yourself and you're not afraid of what you're saying.

02:55:07.000 You're not afraid of being not politically correct. 0.97

02:55:10.000 You don't suck up to the right and you don't suck up to the left. 0.99

02:55:13.000 Well, thank you. 0.99

02:55:13.000 Well, people like you, Gypsy, are my heroes. 0.99

02:55:16.000 I mean, I'm just doing what I have to. 0.98

02:55:18.000 We've got criminal, murdering pieces of trash running our government, engaging in every crime imaginable and even unimaginable. 0.99

02:55:26.000 Whatever you can imagine, it's far worse, folks. 0.99

02:55:28.000 I've learned that one thing in all of this.

02:55:31.000 They've got to be brought to heel.

02:55:32.000 They've got to be brought under control.

02:55:34.000 Corruption either gets worse or it gets better.

02:55:36.000 It doesn't stay in one position.

02:55:37.000 And right now, it's getting worse.

02:55:39.000 Gypsy, any websites you want to give out? 1.00

02:55:43.000 I just started a website called hippynewsnetwork.com, and I'm going to be posting videos of nuclear cover-up that our government is doing, which is totally horrible.

02:55:54.000 Good, good.

02:55:54.000 hippynewsnetwork.com, thank you for joining us.

02:55:57.000 Take care.

02:55:58.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

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02:56:18.000 They're powerful films and it makes this broadcast possible.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - May 30, 2006

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