Alex Jones Show - 20060719_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Well, well, well.

00:00:23.000 Back in the saddle again.

00:00:24.000 It is Wednesday, the 19th day of July 2006.

00:00:26.000 I'm your host Alex Jones.

00:00:28.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:30.000 Well, well, well, back in the saddle again.

00:00:37.000 It is Wednesday, the 19th day of July, 2006.

00:00:42.000 I'm your host, Alex Jones.

00:00:43.000 We'll be live for the next three hours.

00:00:46.000 We have a surprise guest in the third hour today.

00:00:48.000 In the second hour, Second hour, we have the lawyer heads up the law firm that's been successfully suing Bayer over the Factor VIII blood-produced drug that supposedly helps with a clotting agent with hemophiliacs that Bayer knowingly, for many, many years, allowed HIV to be basically we have the lawyer heads up the law firm that's been successfully suing Bayer over the Factor VIII blood-produced drug that supposedly helps with a clotting agent with hemophiliacs that Bayer knowingly, for many, many

00:01:17.000 And this chronicle goes way back to the 1980s when they first discovered this.

00:01:22.000 It runs right through Bill Clinton in Arkansas and other companies in England and in Australia and the Red Cross and of course a big pharmacological company that produces these drugs, Forbear and others, up in Canada.

00:01:37.000 So we'll be giving you the back story and then of course the latest information where this goes in the future and how it ties into some other drugs and some other companies that are doing similar things right now coming up in the second hour today.

00:01:52.000 And yes, we'll talk about all of the Katyusha rockets and what's happening in Israel, what's happening in Lebanon, We'll be going over all of that here in the first hour today.

00:02:04.000 I'd like to get your take on it.

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00:02:11.000 We'll get into the spiking oil prices.

00:02:14.000 Very uncomfortable OPEC.

00:02:15.000 That's their statement on it, if you believe that.

00:02:18.000 Finally, it seems Iran has overplayed its hand. 0.75

00:02:21.000 That's what USA Today is saying, why Iran is behind it all. 0.99

00:02:26.000 They deserve to be attacked and attacked immediately.

00:02:29.000 Israeli troops battle Hezbollah guerrillas in the last two days, making incursions in the southern Lebanon. 0.85

00:02:35.000 There's the death toll climbs, coming up on 300 dead in Lebanon, and what is it, 30-something now in Israel.

00:02:45.000 Another report here trying to demonize Iran.

00:02:48.000 The arming of Hezbollah reveals U.S. 0.97

00:02:49.000 and Israeli's blind spots.

00:02:51.000 Now, they're not blind spots.

00:02:53.000 We'll get into the history of who is really behind creating and financing and funding a lot of these groups.

00:02:58.000 A thousand Americans have just fled on a cruise ship.

00:03:01.000 Tens of thousands others stuck in the country.

00:03:04.000 As Israel talks about an all-out invasion.

00:03:07.000 They're even talking about now an invasion.

00:03:09.000 We have Israeli foreign ministers.

00:03:11.000 We have Newt Gingrich, other neocon wonks.

00:03:14.000 Policy wonks on television saying we need to go ahead and attack or invade Syria.

00:03:21.000 The FBI is eyeing Hezbollah in the United States as tensions with Iran rise.

00:03:26.000 And oh, the terrorists may hit us any minute.

00:03:29.000 So I'm going to break all of this down after this first quick break.

00:03:33.000 And then coming up later, we'll get into some of the other world news.

00:03:39.000 I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this Bush making a fool of himself as usual at the G8 Summit. 0.87

00:03:47.000 He walked up to Merkel, the German Chancellor, and grabbed her. 0.90

00:03:51.000 He squeezed so hard that she was shocked and threw her hands up.

00:03:57.000 But that dovetails with the cussing, the bleeping this, bleeping that on camera.

00:04:04.000 And, folks, I believe Bush does all of this on purpose.

00:04:08.000 This is all part of his persona, you know, of a wild man to basically scare the rest of the world.

00:04:14.000 I've heard all the people on national TV, the apologists, well, that's just how Texans behave, and that's just what Texans do.

00:04:20.000 They hug on other people.

00:04:22.000 And Texans do do that. 0.99

00:04:25.000 Texans, real Texans do that. 0.98

00:04:27.000 Number one, Bush is not a Texan. 0.98

00:04:30.000 He's as phony as a $3 bill. 0.94

00:04:32.000 Not that it matters that he's from Kennebunkport, Maine and Connecticut.

00:04:36.000 But it's a costume.

00:04:39.000 But the important thing is you dovetail the cussing in public with having no decorum grabbing on a head of state.

00:04:47.000 It fits in as part of a pattern.

00:04:49.000 So it's a total diversion.

00:04:51.000 But if we look at it as a diversion, it can become informative and educational.

00:04:54.000 So I'll briefly comment on that too later in the show.

00:04:57.000 Stay with us.

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00:08:07.000 Well, I took three days of broadcast stops.

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00:08:50.000 Coming up in the next hour, we'll get into Bayer and the Factor VIII and letting conservatively hundreds of thousands of people become infected and die from the HIV virus, not to mention hepatitis.

00:09:01.000 Knowing that it was in there and deliberately putting it in.

00:09:04.000 We'll talk to the head lawyer suing him over this.

00:09:06.000 They've gotten the official documents.

00:09:08.000 This is a almost 20 year old story and it's now been breaking in the mainstream news.

00:09:12.000 So that's coming up in the second hour.

00:09:15.000 We have a surprise guest in the third hour.

00:09:17.000 But I took off Friday and Monday and then came back yesterday and I was shocked to learn That Jack Blood filling in had really unexpectedly broken some really big news Friday and that no one had picked up on it.

00:09:35.000 No one had written an article about it.

00:09:37.000 So we did a transcript late last night upon getting back and we finished up the article this morning and we're posting it on InfoWars.com right now.

00:09:46.000 In fact, as we came back into the second segment about two minutes ago, I was walking back into the studio and they were updating it, posting it on InfoWars.com.

00:09:56.000 And what is that major story?

00:09:59.000 Don't worry, we'll get into Israel and Lebanon and Bush grabbing on Merkel. 0.63

00:10:03.000 We'll get into all of it.

00:10:07.000 But before we do that, and oil prices at all-time highs of 78.40 on North Sea crude and even higher on OPEC, Middle Eastern oil.

00:10:21.000 But an example of this is I had Richard Linklater on, what was it, last Tuesday.

00:10:26.000 The acclaimed Hollywood movie director.

00:10:29.000 We talked about 9-11 being an inside job.

00:10:31.000 We talked about how he woke Bruce Willis up to it just about six months ago.

00:10:35.000 I didn't ask Rick to go there.

00:10:37.000 I didn't know Rick would go there.

00:10:39.000 I didn't expect Rick to go there.

00:10:41.000 He's one of the many people I know in Hollywood who are well aware of 9-11 for years.

00:10:47.000 And he kind of dropped the dime on old Bruce Willis, Schwarzenegger's little buddy.

00:10:56.000 And that got really big play out there on the web, on the internet.

00:11:00.000 And the same thing happened to Jack Blood when he was sitting in on on Friday but then he went over to his own show sitting here in the studios on his program Deadline Live.

00:11:09.000 He had Daniel Ellsberg on and he had him on about the attack in Lebanon, what's happening on both sides, the kidnapped soldiers, the captured soldiers, all of it.

00:11:22.000 And Jack brought up 9-11 and Ellsberg went off

00:11:28.000 on it basically saying the evidence points towards an inside job and then he dropped several other big bombshells and no one picked up on this of course everyone picked up on any mindless gossip that was out there in the patriot or truth community how many angels condemned from the head of a pen was endlessly discussed people's tenter tantrums were discussed but not the hardcore serious issues so I hope everybody will go get this article that Kevin Smith and myself and

00:11:55.000 Me and Slick Eisen all threw in together and got out as quickly as possible.

00:11:59.000 I hope that you will get it out on all the message boards and all the sites that are out there.

00:12:03.000 Let me just read over the article for you right now and we'll get into Israel and your phone calls and the rest of it.

00:12:09.000 Pentagon Papers author Daniel Ellsberg says government may have carried out 9-11.

00:12:14.000 Predicts Bush regime will stage terror attacks to provide pretext for Iran-Syria invasion and justify internment camps for American people.

00:12:25.000 I guess we should add for THE American people.

00:12:27.000 We're kind of proofreading live here on air.

00:12:28.000 That's how fast we move.

00:12:30.000 Daniel Ellsberg is a former American military analyst employed by the Rand Corporation who precipitated a national firestorm in 71 when he released the Pentagon Papers, the U.S.

00:12:40.000 military's account of activities during the Vietnam War.

00:12:43.000 We might still be there if it wasn't for that.

00:12:45.000 I'm serious.

00:12:47.000 They said we'll be in Iraq for 100 years, by the way.

00:12:49.000 To the New York Times.

00:12:52.000 The release awakened the American people to the systematic program of organized deception carried out by the Pentagon against the population to continue the Vietnam War.

00:13:02.000 Daniel Ellsberg, speaking on air to GCN Radio host Jack Blood, stated his concerns that criminal elements of the U.S.

00:13:08.000 government were psychologically capable to have carried out 9-11.

00:13:12.000 You know, they're those type of people, basically, is what he said.

00:13:15.000 He warned that within days after a U.S.

00:13:17.000 military strike on Iran, Bush's handlers would probably stage some type of terror attack in the West to legitimize the new war.

00:13:25.000 Ellsberg went on to state that another major Reichstag-like state-sponsored attack would be followed by martial law scenario in the U.S.

00:13:33.000 which might include detention camps for American dissenters.

00:13:37.000 Ellsberg said that he worked with individuals at the highest levels of government who staged war provocations several times to whip up pro-war sentiment in the U.S.

00:13:47.000 Daniel Ellsberg now joins the ranks of hundreds of prominent engineers, physicists, economists, military officers, pilots, high-level intelligence analysts, and cabinet ministers who are exposing the 9-11 hoax.

00:14:00.000 Each day, more and more respected professionals "...are going public with their questions about the official 9-11 fable.

00:14:06.000 The 9-11 cover-up dam is breaking under the weight of these truth-seekers' efforts, and the perpetrators of 9-11 are watching them in horror while wondering who will be the next to speak up.

00:14:17.000 Here is a partial transcript of the interview." The section that gets into Ellsberg's comments on 9-11.

00:14:26.000 So, Daniel Ellsberg, highly respected across the political spectrum, This article with the transcript is up on InfoWars.com right now.

00:14:36.000 And I got home yesterday afternoon and learned that no one had picked up on it.

00:14:42.000 I'm just as happy for somebody else to hear the show, pick up on it, do their own headline, get their own internet visitors.

00:14:47.000 It's very easy to do.

00:14:48.000 A lot of times WorldNetDaily and others do do this.

00:14:51.000 It did not happen with this story.

00:14:54.000 I wish it would have and then we wouldn't have been up here until midnight last night.

00:14:59.000 But here is the story, here is the transcript for you.

00:15:04.000 Again, I'm not whining about having to work long hours on the day I get back from vacation.

00:15:08.000 My point is that this will be a lot easier if you help us get the word out and if you share in the good labor with us because it is extremely rewarding and together many hands do make light work as the old parable goes and it's true.

00:15:22.000 I mean, how many people?

00:15:23.000 We have the former head Marine Corp.

00:15:26.000 Historian, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Admiral Moore, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff's lawyer, very prominent conservative former Marine, going public saying the official 9-11 story is a fraud and it could be an inside job and the evidence points there.

00:15:42.000 We have the head of the 9-11 families group that represents 7,000 plus families.

00:15:46.000 The biggest group, the folks that sued Saudi Arabia and then Bush, blocked them with James Baker.

00:15:51.000 Going public saying all the evidence points towards an inside job.

00:15:57.000 This is in the last week and a half while we have the huge movie director Richard Linklater going public with all that he has to lose and then openly, without me even asking or knowing he was going to do it, start talking about other big stars like Bruce Willis and believe me, there are people a lot bigger than Bruce Willis who I have talked to.

00:16:15.000 Okay?

00:16:16.000 Who I personally have talked to, who I've personally been contacted by.

00:16:20.000 Okay?

00:16:21.000 In fact, let's just say the biggest.

00:16:24.000 And people have their own opinion on who the biggest is.

00:16:27.000 I'm not going to say names.

00:16:31.000 I wish they'd go public, it'd be so huge.

00:16:33.000 Or maybe the establishment media would get smart and ignore it.

00:16:38.000 But the point is, the dam is breaking, it's cracking, and we've got to push harder than ever because 9-11 is the foundational event, and the globalists are going to continue to use it to push other provocations.

00:16:52.000 So please go get the Ellsberg story off of Infowars.com right now, exclusive to Infowars.com.

00:17:01.000 Get it out to everybody right now, please.

00:17:03.000 Alright, let me shift gears into the Middle East developments, that cauldron that's boiling over right now and endangering the peace of the entire sphere, the entire planet, Terra, Firma. 1.00

00:17:20.000 But let's start off by going back to the neocon agenda.

00:17:26.000 The neocons told us what their agenda is.

00:17:28.000 Trillions in oil by shutting off the oil spigots in the Middle East, Iran, Syria, Iraq, even Saudi Arabia if they can, then jacking up the prices of all the other oil reserves they found.

00:17:41.000 It is part of expanding Israel's hegemony, hegemon, around the region. 0.95

00:17:46.000 This is their own stated documents going back to the 80s right through to 2000.

00:17:49.000 This is what they're saying, not us.

00:17:53.000 It's about hundreds of billions a year in unrestricted, no-bid, weapons contracts and other contracts that have now cost over $400 billion.

00:18:02.000 I was saying $400 billion last week.

00:18:04.000 It's now almost $500 billion in the last three and a half years.

00:18:04.000 I'm wrong.

00:18:06.000 Excuse me.

00:18:07.000 So that means in another three and a half years it'll be a trillion.

00:18:10.000 And the numbers were only spiraling upwards.

00:18:12.000 So it's about weapon sales, it's about opium, it's about shutting off oil and jacking up prices, it's about expanding Israel's living space, a greater Israel, it's about breaking up Arab countries into two to five parts, depending on which nation you're talking about. 0.89

00:18:25.000 This is all official if you know where to look.

00:18:28.000 This is the stated battle plan.

00:18:31.000 And we know that Bush gave Iran the ultimatum, and he said, I will go in there by late July, I could attack you, he said, If you don't cease your peaceful nuclear program and let us in there to control things. 0.88

00:18:48.000 And they look at that, look at how Iraq made deals and agreed, and they still got attacked. 0.92

00:18:51.000 So they said, no way, Jose.

00:18:53.000 And I'm not saying the Iranians are perfect. 1.00

00:18:54.000 Governments are evil, folks. 0.84

00:18:56.000 It shows us that.

00:18:56.000 That's history.

00:18:57.000 It's a bunch of evil people fighting with each other, and we're all caught in the middle.

00:19:03.000 And so we're sitting here looking at this unfolding, And now Israel, the client state, is basically putting things on the front burner.

00:19:13.000 And as I said last week, they've now even got Fox News analysts coming out and admitting that every few weeks an Israeli soldier gets captured.

00:19:20.000 Every few days, Palestinian fighters get captured.

00:19:24.000 Lebanese soldiers get captured.

00:19:27.000 And they don't attack.

00:19:28.000 And so why did Israel choose now to hype this? 0.51

00:19:32.000 Now to make a big deal out of this?

00:19:37.000 And who's behind Hezbollah? 0.96

00:19:39.000 Who's behind Hamas? 0.71

00:19:41.000 Let's talk about the region.

00:19:42.000 Let's talk about its history.

00:19:44.000 Take me about 10-15 minutes to cover, and I'll give you the latest news on it.

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00:24:12.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

00:24:22.000 It's not about left and right, it's about right and wrong.

00:24:24.000 We're constitutionalists.

00:24:26.000 Here, have you just joined us?

00:24:28.000 And George Bush is dismantling our Constitution, our sovereignty, just like the Democrats are. 0.63

00:24:32.000 They're all owned by people called the Globalists, the New World Order, and we're here fighting them for those that just joined us. 0.97

00:24:39.000 A little description of what we do here.

00:24:42.000 Alright, so we know that Israel and the United States and England openly have stated that their goal is to shut off the oil supply, jacking up the prices, artificial scarcity.

00:24:55.000 We know the goal is to expand Israel and to break up the surrounding countries into vassal states of the West. 0.99

00:25:02.000 We know the goal is to have it be a continual war zone so that they can sell weapon systems basically to the American people at huge profits to the defense contractors.

00:25:18.000 All of this is their stated goal.

00:25:20.000 Now, how do they get us to war?

00:25:23.000 How do they bring us to war?

00:25:25.000 Well, they hire Saddam Hussein. 0.87

00:25:27.000 They train him as a young assassin.

00:25:29.000 In 1954, they put him in as the head of Baathist security.

00:25:32.000 In 1969, ten years later, in 1979, they stage a coup and put Saddam into power. 0.76

00:25:37.000 Three, four years later, they convince Saddam to attack Iran. 0.89

00:25:41.000 We fund him over $33 billion to attack Iran. 0.94

00:25:45.000 Then he basically loses that war in a stalemate.

00:25:48.000 They then tell him to go ahead and invade Kuwait.

00:25:51.000 He follows orders and invades Kuwait. 0.94

00:25:53.000 He is set up.

00:25:55.000 U.S.

00:25:55.000 PR firms go on national TV and claim they saw babies being thrown out of incubators, now admitted to be a complete fabrication and lie.

00:26:05.000 Iraq is bombed from first world status to third world status.

00:26:09.000 Their population goes from 25 million to 22 million today, when it was exploding before that, as the rest of the Arab world was.

00:26:17.000 The New World Order, then for thirteen years, twelve and a half years, has huge sanctions on Iraq.

00:26:25.000 Millions die.

00:26:26.000 They bombard the country continually, blowing up its water treatment and power stations.

00:26:34.000 This goes on and on.

00:26:35.000 Inspectors traverse the entire country, destroying the WMDs that Saddam legally and lawfully had as a U.S. 0.64

00:26:42.000 government agent.

00:26:43.000 Same thing with bin Laden.

00:26:44.000 It's always the same story.

00:26:45.000 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

00:26:48.000 Then we go in there three and a half years.

00:26:50.000 We're now a total of 15 years later since this all began.

00:26:55.000 It'll be going on 15 more, folks.

00:26:57.000 It's designed to.

00:26:58.000 That's how the contractors make money and that's their pretext to stay in the region.

00:27:03.000 It's siege.

00:27:04.000 They're waging war against the populations of the Middle East. 0.90

00:27:08.000 They're exterminating them.

00:27:10.000 They want control of their governments to then foist the UN vaccines on the population.

00:27:15.000 One of their big initiatives with the special things that have been added to sterilize their women and give their populations HIV. 0.98

00:27:22.000 In fact, in the countries the UN takes over, watch the HIV level explode.

00:27:26.000 We have, again, their own documents on that.

00:27:29.000 So that's all that's going on is the extermination over there, but domestically, as Bush also told, His biographer, in 99, I'm going to be a war president because I can't be questioned domestically when we're at war.

00:27:42.000 Again, that's George Bush's words, not mine.

00:27:46.000 So we go from their own words.

00:27:47.000 So, how are they going to escalate the war into Iran, into Syria, into surrounding areas?

00:27:52.000 They're even talking about Saudi Arabia. 0.94

00:27:54.000 They're talking about trying to destabilize that country so it falls to Muslim extremists that our own government has been caught red-handed hundreds of times funding and then, oh, Stab them in the back, we've got to go clean them out. 1.00

00:28:08.000 Now, so Israel is routinely being hit by rockets every few weeks.

00:28:13.000 Israel is routinely having soldiers captured just like they capture soldiers out of different militia groups in the surrounding nations.

00:28:20.000 So why did they start hyping this now?

00:28:22.000 It coincides with Bush's deadline.

00:28:26.000 It coincides with his deadline of, what, two days ago.

00:28:30.000 That is now coming past.

00:28:32.000 We have to have it look like there's some reason to have troops there and some reason for Israel to be attacking Lebanon, who openly has been trying to hunt down and stop Hezbollah and Hamas.

00:28:44.000 The problem is Hezbollah and Hamas have been openly funded, not just by Iran, but the US and Israel.

00:28:49.000 Yes, mainstream Israeli papers even admit that.

00:28:52.000 Just go read your history.

00:28:54.000 And their leaders, our government uses Hezbollah and Hamas to destabilize those surrounding countries, and if they don't play ball, they get assassinated. 0.94

00:29:03.000 Remember what's happened to several leaders in that region?

00:29:05.000 They're routinely being killed by Hezbollah and Hamas.

00:29:09.000 You see?

00:29:09.000 That's why Israel admits that in 73, they founded Hamas.

00:29:14.000 That's Jerusalem Post, boys and girls.

00:29:16.000 That isn't a conspiracy theory.

00:29:19.000 For those that doubt me on this, remember the deal Ronald Reagan made with Bush Sr., who actually made the deal?

00:29:25.000 You know what, I'm going to break it down when we get back.

00:29:26.000 I'm going to try to just get to the meat and potatoes of this when we get back.

00:29:32.000 We're not playing checkers here, we're playing chess.

00:29:34.000 This is sophisticated, three-dimensional warfare, and you, the people, are the target.

00:29:41.000 We'll come back, finish up with this, then go to your calls at 1-800-259-9231.

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00:33:32.000 Gunn, Zach, Steve, David, Jeff, others, your calls are coming up.

00:33:36.000 Let me just continue breaking down what's really going on over in Israel.

00:33:41.000 Now, we look at this as countries.

00:33:43.000 Iran, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, the United States.

00:33:46.000 How is it all playing together?

00:33:48.000 Israel's our ally.

00:33:49.000 They're our good little buddies.

00:33:51.000 They're as pure as the driven snow.

00:33:53.000 They're sweet, happy, little good people who only want to help children cross the street.

00:34:00.000 And then you go to Israel's own newspapers and they admit that Israel founded So did UPI.

00:34:07.000 They had a big investigation on it.

00:34:09.000 Founded Hamas in 1973.

00:34:13.000 I'm just setting the table here.

00:34:14.000 The atmosphere.

00:34:15.000 The players.

00:34:16.000 And you can decide what's going on yourself.

00:34:18.000 Because at some levels, I don't even know.

00:34:20.000 Because it's an intelligence agency with an intelligence agency overlapping, backstabbing at every level.

00:34:29.000 So you try to figure it out.

00:34:30.000 I think I know where it's going, and my predictions have borne out to be accurate, so unfortunately it looks like we do know what's happening, and it isn't very pretty.

00:34:39.000 And we have Israel, what, four years ago, three and a half years ago, it comes out, in Harots, and in the Jerusalem Post again, and in UPI again, of all places, that Israel created hundreds of fake Al-Qaeda groups.

00:34:55.000 Not fake Al-Qaeda to infiltrate Al-Syiada, why infiltrate themselves, but to quote, stage terrorist attacks as a pretext to continue a military presence in the West Bank to, and then of course in the north on the border with Lebanon and the Golan Heights.

00:35:19.000 Now that isn't Alex Jones, folks!

00:35:22.000 That's Israel admitting that. 0.62

00:35:25.000 And then we go back in time.

00:35:26.000 We have George Bush Sr.

00:35:28.000 really running things in the campaign with Ronald Reagan.

00:35:32.000 And they sign a deal, now admitted, now declassified, came out in congressional testimony.

00:35:36.000 They do a backroom deal with Iran, who had grabbed the hostages at the U.S. 0.73

00:35:44.000 Embassy.

00:35:45.000 And they grab the U.S. 0.94

00:35:47.000 hostages and they won't give them up to Jimmy Carter, who the media, the establishment media owned by Big Pharma and the big defense contractors, they begin to demonize Jimmy Carter, and they begin to attack Jimmy Carter, I'm not saying he's good or bad, this is what they did, for whatever reason, blaming it all on him, and it turns out the whole thing was staged between our CIA and Iran, and they hold them for months and months and months,

00:36:13.000 And then right after Ronald Reagan's elected, they release him and it turns out it was done for hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of pieces of weaponry, tow missiles, you name it.

00:36:27.000 And then what does Iran use those weapons on?

00:36:29.000 They use those on Iraq and our government meanwhile has put the Iraqi dictator in, Saddam Hussein, and a year and a half, two years after Reagan is elected, there's a giant war launched by Our other puppet, fully controlled at that time, Saddam Hussein against the Iranians. 0.77

00:36:49.000 So, we're starting to try to figure this out. 0.99

00:36:51.000 And Neocon followers will go, OK, yeah, I read that, it's admitted, but that's blowback, and we worked with some people, but now they're the enemy and we've got to kill them. 0.99

00:37:01.000 The point is, it's all set up and staged, OK? 0.98

00:37:05.000 And I listen to these talk shows.

00:37:06.000 I've even been called in on shows.

00:37:07.000 I've been a guest on shows.

00:37:09.000 This is all publicly admitted, so they won't deny it.

00:37:11.000 They'll just make excuses for it and say, well, let's just talk about what's happening now.

00:37:16.000 Well, everything that happened in the past has a bearing on what's happening now.

00:37:20.000 I mean, let's go further.

00:37:22.000 You've got the Serbs. 0.78

00:37:23.000 You know, certainly not perfect, but our allies against the Nazis in World War II.

00:37:27.000 The UN even admits they were attacked by the Muslims.

00:37:30.000 They were attacked by the Croats.

00:37:32.000 They were attacked from two different sides.

00:37:35.000 And then the UN goes in there in the early 90s and they're back in the late 90s.

00:37:39.000 What happens?

00:37:40.000 You have the south of the country, one-third of the country, Kosovo, it's capital, Pristina, and then all of a sudden, For five months, there are over 55-56 bombings, mainly of school buses, schools, courthouses, government buildings, government facilities, all over the South, and Kosovo Liberation Army Muslims, led by Osama Bin Laden.

00:38:09.000 ...are attacking the South.

00:38:11.000 The Serbs fight back and are called genocidal maniacs and fake videos put on national TV of concentration camps and all it is is the border of Albania and the border of Macedonia and our government not letting people through.

00:38:25.000 They're at barbed wire, all right, wanting to get in.

00:38:27.000 They pulled the same thing, what, in 94, or was it 93, there, with them trying to get into a UN food station and called it a concentration camp.

00:38:35.000 I mean, these guys are slick.

00:38:39.000 So we've got Bin Laden and the Iranians, by the way. 1.00

00:38:41.000 The money was sent via Clinton to Iran and then to Northern Albania.

00:38:47.000 We've got the Iranians and Bin Laden used yet again to go stir something up, to go destabilize something, and then when Serbia defends itself, they're invaded, they're attacked. 0.94

00:38:58.000 Okay?

00:38:59.000 We have this staged event with the Iran hostage situation, Iran-Contra.

00:39:06.000 We have the staged event with putting Saddam in. 0.93

00:39:09.000 We have the staged event with the Israelis staging Al Qaeda attacks against themselves as a pretext for domestic control and to expand their military operations.

00:39:19.000 It happens over and over and over and over and over and over again.

00:39:23.000 Where they provocateur this stuff or they outright stage it.

00:39:28.000 So that's the reason I'm getting into all of this before we even get into what's happening in Israel right now.

00:39:33.000 And what's happening in Lebanon and surrounding areas?

00:39:38.000 Now, this was a Republican-centered report put out by Alphonse D'Amato in 1999 with their own documents where they brought forward the fact that Bill Clinton Fun to do some of Bin Laden.

00:39:51.000 Again, what has Bin Laden used to do?

00:39:54.000 His family builds all the U.S.

00:39:55.000 bases.

00:39:56.000 They build the big mosque, the air-conditioned Mecca.

00:39:59.000 They're multi-multi-billionaires.

00:40:01.000 They make billions a year.

00:40:02.000 They're number three owners of the Carlisle Group with the Queen of England and others.

00:40:05.000 I mean, this is mainstream news.

00:40:06.000 London Guardian, Wall Street Journal.

00:40:09.000 The Bushes vacation with them.

00:40:11.000 We know Bin Laden was CIA-trained in college.

00:40:13.000 Tim Osman was his codename.

00:40:14.000 We know he fought the Russians for seven, eight years as the leader of the Mujahideen, the Freedom Fighters.

00:40:21.000 We know he's CIA, and then in 99, he's busy attacking the Serbs with Iran. 0.96

00:40:27.000 Our government backs all that up.

00:40:29.000 Then he supposedly attacks us again on 9-11.

00:40:31.000 I mean, can we put two and two together here?

00:40:33.000 Who he works for, who he is, what's going on?

00:40:38.000 And again, I'm not even saying bin Laden actually physically attacked us on 9-11.

00:40:41.000 He took the fall for it.

00:40:42.000 He played the part of the patsy.

00:40:45.000 The decoy.

00:40:48.000 And so now, we don't even know what's going on.

00:40:52.000 We know our government makes backroom deals with Iran, and they could really be fighting with Iran right now, because the problem is they set up the Serbs, then stab them in the back. 0.89

00:41:01.000 The globalists set up the Iranians, then stab them in the back.

00:41:04.000 They set up Saddam, stab him in the back. 0.99

00:41:06.000 They set up everybody and stab them in the back. 0.98

00:41:09.000 And then they try to kill Gaddafi, now he's our best friend. 0.93

00:41:13.000 We've never been at war with East Asia, we've always been at war with East Asia. 1.00

00:41:16.000 Big Brother, you know, says 2 plus 2 equals 10.

00:41:21.000 So, we have this spinning cauldron going on.

00:41:25.000 What we do know is we cannot believe anything we're hearing on the news.

00:41:30.000 Oh, we can believe a ship got blown up in a harbor.

00:41:34.000 We can believe that this many rockets fell on the northern city in Israel.

00:41:38.000 We can believe that this many kids died at the school.

00:41:41.000 That type of information we know is accurate, but we don't know who did it, why it happened, who's really captured these Israeli soldiers.

00:41:48.000 We don't know if these Israeli soldiers are really on the beaches of Maui right now, smoking cigars and drinking Coronas.

00:41:54.000 We don't know if they're really dead.

00:41:56.000 We don't know if they were killed in cross-border fighting, so the Israelis are just claiming that they've been captured.

00:42:03.000 We don't know that... Again, why haven't we seen videos of these guys?

00:42:06.000 Why hasn't Hezbollah been on television?

00:42:08.000 Why hasn't... We know Hezbollah's riddled with CIA, Shin Bet, MI6, Mossad.

00:42:16.000 But we know that the Israelis found and from these groups wind them up, but sometimes didn't they stab each other in the back? 1.00

00:42:23.000 And so we don't know.

00:42:24.000 There's all these other splinter groups.

00:42:29.000 But what we do know is that kidnappings, capture of soldiers, killings, Katyusha rockets being fired is a weekly, sometimes hourly occurrence, and we know that it's being overly hyped at this time, because Israel and the US, that is people who control our country, when we say US we don't mean the American people, the globalists, controlling our country as an engine of empire,

00:42:51.000 Want to go into Iran, want to go into Syria, and are openly claiming that Syria may have the captured soldiers, and that Syria may be behind it. 0.60

00:42:59.000 And we know that's a fraud.

00:43:01.000 I'll get into that.

00:43:03.000 We know that they were trying to blame it on Iran, claiming the soldiers may have been smuggled into Iran.

00:43:08.000 That baloney surfaced Thursday afternoon of last week, six, seven days ago. 0.99

00:43:13.000 That's pure garbage. 1.00

00:43:14.000 We know that's a lie. 0.98

00:43:18.000 So all of this is swirling around, and we know they're trying to escalate this into war psychosis, war hysteria, to kick off some type of larger event, and now the FBI and MI6 and MI5 and all of them are saying domestic attacks in the US or England could happen at any minute.

00:43:35.000 Why, Hamas and Hezbollah could strike any second, and that leaves the perfect cover while we're having this symbolic war through our surrogate, through our foil, our minion, Israel, right now with Lebanon, that they're saying this could go as far north as Syria. 0.75

00:43:51.000 Israeli ministers are openly saying it.

00:43:53.000 Netanyahu's openly saying it, their banking minister.

00:43:57.000 We've got neocons, Crystal and Genrich up there all saying this.

00:44:04.000 This whole thing, you can see it marching us towards a larger, widening conflagration and perfect timing for some type of false flag, government-sponsored terror attack somewhere in the Western world.

00:44:17.000 It could be Australia.

00:44:19.000 It could even be Germany, but it'll probably be the U.S. 0.69

00:44:22.000 or England or one of our interests.

00:44:24.000 The globalists keep getting caught carrying them out in major cities like 9-11 or 7-7 or Madrid, so they may do something.

00:44:30.000 They may blow up a ship or blow up a plane, as Bush says they could do, or put one in harm's way to get it shot down, like they did with the Gulf of Tonkin or in the White House memo.

00:44:40.000 So we're in very dangerous times and this is the exact type of provocation that was predicted months ago on this broadcast by a different analyst like Ray McGovern and others and we're now seeing this exact type of a provocation unfolding and we're hearing war psychosis, Jack Blood was calling it. 1.00

00:44:57.000 Friday, Wargasm, and that's what it is, I heard Neocons this weekend on talk radio, kill all the Arabs, they're all terrorists, they're all scum, they're all murderers, they're all evil, kill them all, let God sort them out, blow up all those countries, blah, blah, blah, you know, everything in the world is because of the Arabs, when the sun doesn't, you know, shine through the clouds, the Arabs did it, everything is the Arabs, if we could just kill more Arabs, everything would be fine, 1.00

00:45:27.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

00:45:29.000 In major polls, 94% of Arabs are neutral or pro-US. 0.99

00:45:34.000 6% are the foaming, want to kill us all type. 0.99

00:45:36.000 And in major polls, 30% of Americans are the kill all the Arab type. 1.00

00:45:40.000 So we're actually, in many respects, worse than they are. 0.85

00:45:43.000 And there are some real, quote, terrorists, that is fighters.

00:45:46.000 There are some people who target populations just like Israeli bombs or US bombs do.

00:45:51.000 But most of it is manufactured or provocateur.

00:45:54.000 That is, the U.S.

00:45:55.000 government funds through an Arab intermediary, an individual that, say, goes into the West Bank and hires poor Palestinian, you know, 16-year-olds, and pays them $100,000 to go blow themselves up, and our own government supplies the explosives, and the poor Arab extremist that blows himself up never even knew he was working for the West! 0.74

00:46:18.000 So, This is the picture I'm trying to paint here.

00:46:23.000 And it isn't the Arabs that are getting rid of our borders and trying to create the American Union. 0.97

00:46:29.000 The Arabs haven't killed conservatively a hundred plus thousand Americans with Factor VIII in the Bayer blood supply. 0.67

00:46:36.000 In the Bayer Factor VIII drug.

00:46:40.000 And that's only one company that was doing it, making these drugs, these clotting agents.

00:46:44.000 Knowingly!

00:46:45.000 Over a hundred thousand Americans.

00:46:47.000 So like 15,000 something confirmed.

00:46:49.000 That number is a few years old.

00:46:51.000 Hemophiliacs in Canada.

00:46:53.000 Hundreds of thousands in Europe.

00:46:55.000 Tens of thousands in Australia.

00:46:58.000 But I guess they're not wearing a turban and so they don't have brown skin. 0.87

00:47:01.000 So, show what?

00:47:02.000 If the government, oh by the way, if the government knowingly knew and let it happen.

00:47:09.000 So now do you see what I'm saying?

00:47:10.000 It isn't the Arabs putting Cancer viruses in our vaccines, or hormones in tetanus shots to sterilize women. 0.87

00:47:20.000 By the way, that isn't just going on in Latin America, Asia, and Africa.

00:47:23.000 It's going on here.

00:47:23.000 We've caught them.

00:47:24.000 Confirmed.

00:47:26.000 It isn't the Arabs putting mercury in the vaccines.

00:47:29.000 Do you understand that, folks?

00:47:30.000 That they use this external enemy, which isn't perfect, folks. 1.00

00:47:34.000 The Arabs, some of them are a bunch of lunatics. 1.00

00:47:35.000 I mean, believe me, I've researched it, I've looked at it, but most of them aren't. 1.00

00:47:40.000 They're about as loony as we are. 0.59

00:47:41.000 I mean, we're a bunch of loons, too. 0.99

00:47:43.000 The average American can't find Iraq on a map, but they'll tell you how much they want to kill everybody there. 1.00

00:47:47.000 I mean, you know, we're pretty weird, too.

00:47:49.000 Pretty primitive and hyped up and bug-eyed.

00:47:54.000 And you're being diverted off into things that really aren't threats compared to the pure evil that lies and steals and kills that's running our country.

00:48:01.000 Alright, I'll shut up and we'll go to your calls. 0.66

00:48:06.000 Let's go ahead and talk gun. 0.99

00:48:08.000 In Texas, gun.

00:48:09.000 Thanks for holding.

00:48:11.000 Good afternoon, Alexander, the Battlefield Gallery, Eric Jones.

00:48:14.000 I'm glad that you had a vacation, because you work hard and you deserve it.

00:48:17.000 I heard that you're down on the coast.

00:48:20.000 Just a note on fishing, if you get yourself a guide, when you saltwater fishing, if you get yourself a guide, you catch a lot of fish, you have a good time.

00:48:28.000 That's what I did.

00:48:29.000 Oh, good.

00:48:30.000 That's vital information, sir.

00:48:32.000 I have a quick take, an observation, a question.

00:48:36.000 On Israel, It looks like the neocons have really found a back way to Iran because Bolton was having trouble in the UN.

00:48:45.000 Just another note on Israel.

00:48:48.000 Woodrow Wilson had a ten point plan and the only two points that survived, well one point was the formation of the League of Nations, which became the UN.

00:48:56.000 And the first thing that they did was give the land to the Jews from Europe. 0.93

00:49:00.000 And I read part of the Holocaust as a fare for the Rothschilds. 0.97

00:49:03.000 I mean for the Rothschilds. 0.71

00:49:06.000 For all you gamers out there, Why does Western European royalty have Jew blood plus Israel's real name?

00:49:12.000 Just a quick note on homegrown terrorism.

00:49:15.000 A few days before the homegrown terrorists in Canada were caught, Dick Cheney was on Fox saying we need to watch out for homegrown terrorism or homegrown terrorists.

00:49:24.000 And since then, how many busts have we had?

00:49:28.000 So in case of a false flag attack, I guess he had his suspects already lined up.

00:49:34.000 When the next attack When the next attack hits, everybody out there should be detectives and watch closely.

00:49:41.000 No, I hear you and I appreciate the call, sir.

00:49:44.000 Now, getting back to what happened in World War II, the major Zionist publications, the things that were in newspaper stands, the publications that were sold in Jewish bookstores, said, we support Hitler and we need Hitler to force the Jews out of Europe, and they made backroom deals with Hitler and then when The Orthodox Jews were trying to get out. 0.66

00:50:09.000 The Zionists would not allow them to get out and had a deal with Hitler to not let them leave, unless they agreed to go to Palestine, and to pay them a ransom, by the way. 0.93

00:50:18.000 And if they didn't pay the Zionists a ransom, they were left behind to be killed. 0.98

00:50:23.000 And it's the same with all of these cultures. 0.97

00:50:25.000 Governments are evil, leadership is generally evil.

00:50:28.000 As the Founding Fathers told us, as the Bible tells us, and so yes, There were a lot of Zionist leaders who were complicit in the murder of the Jews. 0.98

00:50:38.000 And a lot of times, Jewish leaders throughout history have really been behind pushing a lot of anti-Semitism as a way to control the vast majority of Jews that they then suck dry. 0.95

00:50:48.000 A lot of the big anti-Semites you hear now on the web and stuff, they're really Jewish provocateur agents. 0.95

00:50:54.000 Just thought you might want to know that.

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00:56:45.000 Right now let's go to the next caller and let's speak to Zach in New York.

00:56:52.000 Go ahead, Zach.

00:56:54.000 I was wondering if you've seen the advertisements on CBS for the new show Jericho.

00:56:58.000 It's about a nuke going off somewhere in the United States and the effect on a small Midwestern town.

00:57:06.000 No, I haven't seen it.

00:57:07.000 Is it how martial law saves us and how good it is?

00:57:10.000 Well, yeah, that's not so much what I've seen in the ads.

00:57:13.000 It's not out yet, but there are people cowering.

00:57:14.000 There's many sick and dying.

00:57:16.000 They like to show a mushroom cloud.

00:57:18.000 It's on during CSI and the advertisements on the evening program, just about every commercial break.

00:57:24.000 And I thought that might tie in a bit with your predictions of an event here in the United States.

00:57:29.000 Well, they've had all these nightline dramatizations where we get attacked by a terrorist, and we have to give up all of our rights, and they have martial law drills, and then quietly, at the end of the program, they announce, oh, this was just a dramatization.

00:57:42.000 So there's all this ongoing fear-mongering.

00:57:45.000 I would have to agree with you.

00:57:47.000 What do you think about the whole Israel-Lebanon situation?

00:57:51.000 I'm just waiting for it to boil over.

00:57:54.000 In my mind, there's no real difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

00:57:57.000 There's no side that is morally above the other.

00:58:00.000 It's a bunch of tribal warfare.

00:58:03.000 I would agree with you on that as well.

00:58:04.000 But what do you think about the history of Israel and the U.S.

00:58:07.000 and others actually funding the so-called terrorists?

00:58:12.000 That would not surprise me at all.

00:58:13.000 I'm not too informed on that topic.

00:58:16.000 I've been trying to tell as many people as I can.

00:58:18.000 So, thank you very much.

00:58:18.000 Well, thank you, sir.

00:58:20.000 Do not believe me.

00:58:22.000 Please.

00:58:23.000 Go.

00:58:25.000 To Harats. 0.97

00:58:26.000 Go to UPI.

00:58:27.000 Go to Jerusalem Post.

00:58:29.000 Read where they tell you this.

00:58:31.000 And every time, in hindsight, we learn our governments were staging all of this.

00:58:36.000 And again, they have the motive.

00:58:37.000 It makes sense they would.

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00:59:14.000 Alright, now into the second hour of this worldwide broadcast.

00:59:26.000 Coming up in 30 minutes, we'll continue with your phone calls and get more into Israel and the situation that's beginning to boil over.

00:59:33.000 with Lebanon right now.

00:59:35.000 We'll also get into Bush's bizarre behaviors at the G8.

00:59:38.000 We're now joined by co-host Mike Papantonio, who has a show on Air America with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:59:46.000 And I have to tell you, this is a subject that I'm extremely versed on, so I can tell you that our guest's information is absolutely correct and on target from what I've read when I had a chance to see him on Scarborough Country last week.

01:00:01.000 Mike Papantonio, of course, is a lawyer, and he has been involved in the litigation against Bayer Pharmaceutical for over a decade, knowingly.

01:00:11.000 And now they've got the documents, knowing that in their Factor VIII drugs, it was filled with the HIV virus, hepatitis, a lot of other horrible things, and they knowingly took these drugs and were selling them on the open international market.

01:00:24.000 And this goes back even further into the past with other companies, and it has just been a worldwide Worldwide scourge.

01:00:33.000 And so, sir, thank you for coming on with us today.

01:00:36.000 Sure, Alex.

01:00:36.000 Well, thank you for covering this issue.

01:00:38.000 I mean, it's amazing to me how mainstream media has missed this issue.

01:00:41.000 I just, you know, of course, the wisdom of your program, the reason people listen to Alex Jones is because you do talk about the issues that mainstream media is suffering brain death on.

01:00:53.000 And this is one of them.

01:00:54.000 I mean, it's just an incredible, incredible issue.

01:00:57.000 You know, I'll tell you something that really struck my attention on this.

01:01:00.000 I was taking the deposition of an employer, of an employee with Bayer, and I was asking him, you know, I said, during the deposition, have you ever heard of the Fritz Termeier Foundation?

01:01:11.000 And what it was, it was a grant program for German science students who were studying the biological sciences in Germany.

01:01:19.000 And the description of, if you go on the internet and you take a look at this, the description of the foundation refers to this Tremere character as a compassionate visionary.

01:01:30.000 So I asked this employee during the deposition, I said, well tell me about Fritz Tremere.

01:01:35.000 Well, he told me everything about Fritz Termeier, except that Fritz Termeier in 1947 was sentenced by the Nuremberg Tribunal for war crimes.

01:01:45.000 Incredible, Alex.

01:01:46.000 This is the guy who ran Auschwitz. 0.95

01:01:50.000 I know you know the story of IG Farber, but he was the guy that ran Auschwitz. 0.96

01:01:56.000 Bayer owned Auschwitz with BASF and Host. 0.97

01:02:00.000 And so all of a sudden we have, you know, now they have this warm fuzzy image.

01:02:04.000 They're the Bayer Aspirin people.

01:02:06.000 But when you go back and look at this company's history, they're just one of the manufacturers, but I focused on them During the litigation, because they just had such an arrogant attitude about this entire thing.

01:02:17.000 They were listed in 2001, when we're kind of winding up a lot of this litigation, for our part anyway, they were listed as one of the top 10 corporate criminals in the world.

01:02:28.000 And when you hear this story, and I know you've told this story before, Alex, but when you hear this story... But let's recap it for everybody.

01:02:34.000 Yeah, okay.

01:02:34.000 In the mid-1980s, Bayer manufactured a drug called Factor VIII.

01:02:38.000 The drug was supposed to help hemophiliacs with potential fatal bleeding disease.

01:02:43.000 The point being, though, there were several alternatives already in place.

01:02:47.000 There was less risk to the alternatives.

01:02:50.000 The alternatives had worked for a long time, but this was going to be sold as the miracle wonder drug.

01:02:56.000 And because of political corruption, and because of corporate corruption, the point is, it could have been a wonder drug, but money got involved, greed got involved, government got involved, and people at the very top of Bayer and other companies got involved.

01:03:12.000 But the point is this, it was supposed to be able to be an injectable for hemophiliacs, mostly children, as you know, male children, and it was supposed, not to cure hemophilia, but to stop severe bleeding.

01:03:25.000 Well, Mike Papantonio, stay with us, because when we get back, I want to go through this Factor VIII, what it did, how they knew that it was killing people, and then basically our government helped cover it up, and they sold it in Europe.

01:03:39.000 People gone to jail in Europe, but not here in the United States, and how we bring these people to justice.

01:03:44.000 And this also speaks to the psychology of these elite corporations, and how they get away with open murder on a routine basis.

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01:07:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:18.000 Coming up in about 25 minutes, we'll shift gears back into the Israel-Lebanon crisis.

01:07:23.000 I also want to spend a little bit of time on Bush's bizarre behaviors.

01:07:26.000 Cussing, grabbing on heads of state. 1.00

01:07:29.000 Put it all together, it shows the man is mentally ill. 0.99

01:07:35.000 Our guest has one of the most popular talk shows on Air America nationally and he co-hosts that with Mr. Robert Kennedy Jr. 0.98

01:07:46.000 and he is our guest right now.

01:07:49.000 He is one of the main litigators who sued Bayer and in deposition got their own documents, Bayer Pharmaceutical, where they knowingly, knowingly knew that they were selling Factor VIII after it had been banned in this country, a blood clotting agent that's given to hemophiliacs, and that it was filled with HIV, filled with hepatitis and many other horrors.

01:08:13.000 And this goes back to Arkansas with the prisons knowingly, years after it was banned, taking the blood, not even testing it, knowing they were taking it from people that had HIV, and then it's taken and mixed with thousands of other samples of blood together to then make these blood clotting agent drugs.

01:08:30.000 There are several companies involved in actually producing the different blood products, and then it's sold through Bayer and others, but they're one of the main individuals that are culpable for this.

01:08:44.000 And again, we have them red-handed from Australia to what's happening over in France.

01:08:50.000 People have gone to prison over this.

01:08:52.000 The Red Cross similarly doesn't test blood and has been caught knowingly selling blood to blood product producing companies.

01:08:59.000 So, this is a huge problem.

01:09:01.000 But with Bayer, they knowingly have been doing this for over a decade.

01:09:05.000 They're very cavalier, as our guest Mike Papantonio was telling us.

01:09:10.000 Mike, first off, because a lot of stations just joined us, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got into this, where this has gone, and then kind of repeat and expand on some of the things you talked about in those four minutes on MSNBC, where you laid out how How monstrous this is.

01:09:24.000 I mean, it's hard to use words to properly describe how premeditated this is.

01:09:30.000 I don't just want some huge $100 million, $500 million, $1 billion settlement here, which would never be enough to pay back the hundreds of thousands that have died from this, conservatively.

01:09:40.000 I want to see people go to prison as well.

01:09:43.000 Well, I've got to tell you something on this, Alex.

01:09:45.000 I've handled pharmaceutical cases for a long time.

01:09:49.000 You probably know our firm handled the tobacco case.

01:09:52.000 We're the ones that initiated the national tobacco case.

01:09:55.000 So I'm used to seeing corruption.

01:09:57.000 I mean, I'm used to seeing bad corruption.

01:10:00.000 You know, evil kind of corruption.

01:10:01.000 But I've got to tell you something.

01:10:02.000 I don't think I've ever seen the caliber of corruption that I've seen here.

01:10:07.000 And you know it all flows from the top Alex.

01:10:09.000 I wish most journalists had the insight and the instinct that you've had on this story before anybody was paying attention to it.

01:10:16.000 Mainstream media never has been able to understand that what we have is murder.

01:10:21.000 I mean you have a corporation committing murder and it all flows from the top.

01:10:25.000 Anytime you take a guy who was in charge of Auschwitz.

01:10:29.000 Now this is a true story.

01:10:31.000 The guy in charge of Auschwitz And you name an award after him, the Tremere Award, that's handed out by Bayer, and here you have Tremere, who is their poster boy for what they say is compassion and decency.

01:10:47.000 But this is the guy that ran Auschwitz in 1944. 0.82

01:10:53.000 People can't understand how upside-down corporate America is right now.

01:10:59.000 Right now, you have a president who loves to see corporate America in charge.

01:11:03.000 Unfortunately, the type of corporate America that's in charge here is a company that knowingly had their product factorate that was for children hemophiliacs.

01:11:13.000 It was supposed to save their lives or help save their lives.

01:11:16.000 There were alternatives to it.

01:11:17.000 It wasn't a necessary drug.

01:11:19.000 It was going to be the wonder drug that they wanted to make into a cash cow. 0.99

01:11:23.000 So they take this drug that they know is infected with AIDS.

01:11:27.000 It's infected with Hepatitis C.

01:11:30.000 They know that that infection that runs from the child that takes the product is also going to run to the child's brothers and sisters and mothers.

01:11:38.000 I have represented entire families that have been wiped out by AIDS because Bayer and Armour and Baxter and Cutter Biological You've got a young 18-year-old man.

01:11:51.000 There's a bunch of these cases, but focusing in on individual.

01:11:53.000 I remember one Canadian hemophiliac I talked to about five years ago.

01:11:57.000 He was 18 at the time.

01:11:58.000 He got the Factor VIII.

01:11:59.000 He then got married.

01:12:00.000 He gave it to his wife.

01:12:01.000 I mean, this is incredible.

01:12:03.000 Yeah, I mean, entire families.

01:12:04.000 That scenario, not only would they give it to the wives, They give it to the wives and then they give it to the children from that marriage. 0.84

01:12:12.000 So look, this is no surprise.

01:12:14.000 It would be one thing if this was negligence.

01:12:16.000 This was not simple negligence.

01:12:19.000 This was absolute callous murder.

01:12:22.000 Because you know what they did?

01:12:23.000 I know you know this story Alex, but most people can't believe this story.

01:12:27.000 Once it was very clear, after they had been sued, after we had established that this stuff could kill people because it has AIDS and Hepatitis C, you know what they did?

01:12:36.000 They shipped it to Singapore, and Malaysia, and Indonesia, and Japan, and Argentina, and Europe, and Latin America, and more, more, and more people died after it was very clear.

01:12:47.000 As a matter of fact, it's incredible.

01:12:50.000 30% of the people that received this Factor VIII after it was very clear that it was infected, 30% of those people today are dead from AIDS.

01:12:58.000 They're dead from Hepatitis C. And so this wasn't a mistake.

01:13:02.000 You know why they shipped it overseas, Alex?

01:13:04.000 They shifted overseas because they had an inventory that they had to get rid of.

01:13:09.000 They had an inventory they couldn't sell in America anymore because it wasn't a heat treated product, so they had to unload it.

01:13:16.000 Well, Mike, I want to expand on this because this goes to the mentality of the drug companies, period.

01:13:24.000 They're able to go in, buy off politicians, and when you were on national television, you broke down the fact that people have gone to jail in France over this.

01:13:33.000 But here, no one has been prosecuted when you were able, in depositions, to get their own documents and discovery.

01:13:40.000 Can I tell you something?

01:13:41.000 You know, I was also a prosecutor before I started working as a plaintiff's lawyer.

01:13:46.000 And to make a case out against any one of these companies, I'm not talking about just, you know, ten guys down the road.

01:13:54.000 I'm talking about the top guys with the company.

01:13:57.000 To make a criminal manslaughter case out was a no-brainer.

01:14:01.000 As a matter of fact, in France, as you pointed out, people did go to prison because they had killed so many French children with AIDS.

01:14:09.000 But you know what?

01:14:10.000 In America, not one corporate representative has even been indicted Alex, they haven't even been asked to go to Congress and testify!

01:14:19.000 Well, listen, I'm glad Ken Lay got indicted and got 13 counts and got convicted, but Ken Lay wasn't actually, at least that we know, murdering children.

01:14:28.000 And the numbers I've seen from the BBC and from the big papers in Australia run between 200,000 and a million people that were infected and that died or that spread this.

01:14:38.000 I mean, we're talking about Holocaust-type numbers here.

01:14:41.000 Oh absolutely.

01:14:41.000 And here's a company that you, I mean one of the companies at least is used to the Holocaust mentality because as I said they had Fritz Tamir in charge of their Auschwitz operation.

01:14:50.000 And I want to expand on that Mike if we can because you were the lead lawyer on this case and have successfully exposed all of this.

01:14:58.000 When we look at how many Nazi companies came to this country, bought up parts of the stock market, the things they got away with, you know, NASA buildings being named after Nazis, Nazis being used to help set up the CIA, this whole social Darwinism, Malthusian, Pionkian type view, I mean, this is all over our corporate world today and has really infected us, and you brought up the fact that Bayer gives out this award that's named after a top Nazi. 0.85

01:15:28.000 You know, and the interesting thing about that issue is that in 1952, this guy's sentence was commuted because of pure political, powerful influences.

01:15:38.000 And so what happens is you say, they move into mainstream American corporate world.

01:15:44.000 And we don't even ask questions anymore, Alex.

01:15:47.000 We don't even ask questions.

01:15:50.000 If you have a morally corrupt corporation, here's what people don't understand. 0.86

01:15:54.000 A corporation, if you listen to people that have really analyzed the way a corporation works in America nowadays, the best analysis I've heard is you've got a psychopathic mentality.

01:16:05.000 And when you analyze what a psychopath is, and you take step-by-step, item-by-item, the way corporate America operates in America, it fits into the, if you have a psychological manifestation of psychopath, it's right there.

01:16:19.000 There's a complete disregard for how their conduct affects people.

01:16:22.000 Well, for those that don't know, when you've got an LLC or one of these other type corporations, The individual is running and insulate themselves, and then the corporation is seen as a political and legal person, and so a lot of these crooks get away with it.

01:16:36.000 Yeah, you know what?

01:16:38.000 I'm often criticized because I'm a lawyer and I go after these corporations, and yes, in tobacco, there was a $250 billion settlement, and yes, our law firm did make a lot of money, but I've got to tell you something.

01:16:50.000 I would much prefer to see these people go to prison and not have a civil justice process that's only about money. 0.92

01:16:58.000 I'd rather see them tried as criminals that they are and go to prison rather than have the option of taking them to a civil court and simply taking their money away from them.

01:17:08.000 There are countries all over the world where that happens.

01:17:11.000 France is one of them.

01:17:12.000 No, they didn't have to pay money to the claimants in France as much as they should have, but they sent their people to prison.

01:17:19.000 Well, Mike, where is it right now?

01:17:20.000 How do we get prosecutions?

01:17:22.000 How do we get judgments?

01:17:23.000 How do we punish Bayer and other allied companies?

01:17:26.000 Well, unfortunately, with this administration, it'll never happen.

01:17:29.000 This administration is absolutely an arm of corporate America.

01:17:33.000 Look, what used to be the Republican Party, Alex, is no longer the Republican Party.

01:17:37.000 It's a corporatist party.

01:17:39.000 People that used to be proud of what republicanism stood for.

01:17:42.000 It stood for individual rights and individual freedom, and it stood for, no, we're not an aggressive nation.

01:17:47.000 It stood for fiscal responsibility.

01:17:49.000 All that's history, Alex.

01:17:51.000 That doesn't exist anymore.

01:17:52.000 Now you have corporatism, and it's driven by people like Bear.

01:17:57.000 And unfortunately, in this atmosphere, until something changes in Congress, until you get these Republican corporate thugs out of Congress and change things, you're never going to have an effect on corporate America.

01:18:09.000 Well, I mean, if corporations can get away with killing tens of thousands just in Canada alone, where we have had media coverage of this, if they can get away with murdering tens of thousands of children, they can get away with anything.

01:18:21.000 Well, that's right.

01:18:22.000 And the truth is, it used to be... We'll pick up with corporate media, I guess.

01:18:27.000 Sure.

01:18:27.000 And we've only got about five minutes on the other side, so cram it all in, and let's go over where your suits are going, what's going to happen in the final equation here.

01:18:36.000 And I hope this is a wake-up call to everybody, because this is the tip of the iceberg.

01:18:40.000 This is only one of the big cases that are out there, but unfortunately, there are dozens and dozens of other cases of this that are just as bad or worse with other companies, and it's getting worse, it's not getting better.

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01:23:03.000 We've got something like a $600 million settlement that's chicken feed when you talk about hundreds of thousands of people that have been killed by this or maimed by this and the others that have also been infected.

01:23:12.000 When you're in these depositions here talking to Bayer executives what's it like to sit across the table from these psychopaths and you talked about Yeah, that's exactly it.

01:23:22.000 Noam Chomsky really nails these guys.

01:23:25.000 He says, look, the only way the corporate American can operate in this atmosphere is to be run by a lot of these, not all the corporations, but the corporations that you read about time and time again being indicted that are the worst corporations in the U.S.

01:23:38.000 by everybody's advocacy list.

01:23:40.000 If you look at them, I mean, if you're sitting across the table, you see that they have this kind of grandiose sense of worth of who they are.

01:23:47.000 They're the CEO of a corporation.

01:23:49.000 They could give a damn less that they've killed, you know, a thousand children in order to make a profit. 0.99

01:23:54.000 Most of them, I mean, when you really cross-examine, they almost look like pathological liars. 0.99

01:23:58.000 There's no remorse. 0.72

01:23:59.000 There's no guilt.

01:24:01.000 It's a callousness and a lack of empathy.

01:24:03.000 It's almost this parasitic kind of vision of what their role is against the rest of the world.

01:24:09.000 You know what's interesting about it, Alex?

01:24:12.000 There's always a failure to accept responsibility for their actions.

01:24:16.000 It's this criminal versatility that you see.

01:24:19.000 I sit across, matter of fact I'm getting ready to do a deposition here in about two weeks, and I know I'm going to see the same thing.

01:24:24.000 I can't talk to you about the facts, but I'm going to see the same thing.

01:24:26.000 It's going to be CEO of a corporation, he came up with a Harvard MBA, he's always been the top gun for the company, he thinks he's above the law, and he could care less that the product that they're making has potential and already has killed thousands of people.

01:24:40.000 It's all about a bottom line, and if people out there don't understand, first of all, it's not all corporations, it's what I call the renegade corporations.

01:24:48.000 Unfortunately, the renegade corporations is what's running American politics right now.

01:24:53.000 George Bush identifies with renegade corporations.

01:24:56.000 Cheney and all of his henchmen, those are people... They went to Ken Lay's funeral!

01:25:00.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:25:01.000 Went to Ken Lay's funeral... And then called him Jesus!

01:25:04.000 Yes, you know that story well then.

01:25:07.000 So it's this vision about what we should be as an American and unfortunately corporate CEOs are now involved in shaping that vision in its real, real essence.

01:25:18.000 So when you're across the table with their own documents where they knowingly knew this was killing children and you bring it up to them, what do they say?

01:25:24.000 Well, it's always a denial.

01:25:25.000 Like I say, I call it criminal versatility.

01:25:28.000 It is to be able to move in and out of what's real and what's not real.

01:25:32.000 But I can make you a promise if it makes you feel any better, Alex.

01:25:35.000 By the time they leave a deposition with me, I've usually hammered them pretty good.

01:25:39.000 Unfortunately, after I hammer them, the criminal justice department is unwilling to prosecute these guys.

01:25:45.000 You called it right.

01:25:46.000 The Criminal Justice Department.

01:25:48.000 Describe Gonzales.

01:25:50.000 Describe Ashcroft for us.

01:25:54.000 These are the people who were their benefactors.

01:25:56.000 These are the people that came up through politics.

01:25:58.000 These are the guys that had them appointed as judges.

01:26:00.000 Gonzales worked for Halliburton.

01:26:02.000 I mean, excuse me, Enron.

01:26:03.000 Yeah, Enron.

01:26:05.000 So they all come up with that corporate mentality, and it hasn't always been like that, Alex.

01:26:09.000 It hasn't always been where Republicanism has turned into corporate thuggery.

01:26:14.000 But right now we've reached a peak of corruption.

01:26:17.000 A complete peak, and I've got to tell you something, I've been doing mass tort, product liability cases, pharmaceutical cases for 22 years, and I have never seen a worse environment.

01:26:28.000 It's not just politics, it's corporate America that's So in foreign countries, subsidiaries of people who have gone to prison, but the real ringleaders in the US, England, and Germany haven't?

01:26:40.000 Hell, they haven't even been indicted.

01:26:43.000 It's like it's an acceptable way of doing business.

01:26:45.000 It came out on MSNBC, even the host admitted it, he has the documents, that the Congress knows, the FDA knows, and nothing's going to be done.

01:26:54.000 Nothing will be done, and because, and I gotta tell you something, most of the time it's unusual for media to get involved, because media wants Bayer to advertise on their show.

01:27:03.000 How did you get Scarborough to cover it?

01:27:05.000 Well, Joe's been a friend of mine a long time.

01:27:07.000 I mean, you know, I appear on Scarborough from time to time on all different kinds of issues, and Scarborough really is pretty middle of the road.

01:27:14.000 I mean, sometimes it doesn't come out like that on the show, but he really is.

01:27:18.000 I mean, when you really listen to what he has to say, he's somewhat of a populist.

01:27:23.000 And so, the one time they asked me not to come back on the show was a time that I went after a corporation.

01:27:28.000 It had to do with arsenic wood.

01:27:31.000 So I attacked arsenic, the manufacturer of this company, and, you know, so they said, well, Pat, maybe you shouldn't come back on the show for a while.

01:27:38.000 But you know what?

01:27:39.000 Doesn't make any difference.

01:27:40.000 We're still going after him.

01:27:42.000 Well, I want these individuals to go to prison.

01:27:44.000 How do we help, or is there anything the American people can do?

01:27:46.000 Tell us about your website.

01:27:48.000 Well, the only thing they can do, I think that unfortunately, to go after these guys is a pretty lonely job sometimes, because it has to be.

01:27:55.000 It takes, for example, the deposition, I'll be taking two weeks in a case.

01:28:00.000 You know, that's probably three years worth of manpower just to get ready for that deposition.

01:28:07.000 So it's something that we kind of have to do.

01:28:10.000 The only thing that's going to change all this though, Alex, and I know you preach about it all the time, is you've got to change Congress.

01:28:16.000 We do.

01:28:18.000 Well, listen, Mike, I want to thank you for joining us.

01:28:21.000 You've agreed to come on for a full hour next week to talk about a whole smattering of other incredible issues you've been covering, including electronic voting machines.

01:28:29.000 So you'll be on with us next week?

01:28:30.000 I'll be glad to join you, Alex.

01:28:31.000 I love your show.

01:28:32.000 And we'll take some calls.

01:28:33.000 Take care, Mike, and we'll talk to you next week, sir.

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01:32:05.000 I know off and on, for a decade, I've been covering Different companies, different prisons, different states.

01:32:15.000 Mayor, one of the chief perpetrators, criminals, knowingly killing children.

01:32:22.000 And it's their attitude. 0.98

01:32:24.000 Hey, we know this has got HIV in it.

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01:32:28.000 Because they're mixing in thousands of pints of blood together from hundreds and hundreds of different donors.

01:32:35.000 And so it infects the entire lot.

01:32:39.000 But the reason I've covered that in such depth over the years, as more and more comes out on it, is because it shows the mentality.

01:32:48.000 And when I get Mr. Papantonio on next week, I'll also bring up, okay, you say it's the Republicans, what about Bill Clinton being involved?

01:32:56.000 Because obviously he's a big Democrat, we'll see what he has to say.

01:32:59.000 But truly, under Bush, but Bush is just the puppet of the day, things have reached a crescendo of evil.

01:33:07.000 And these CEOs will sit around and make excuses and laugh or joke about killing hundreds of thousands of people.

01:33:15.000 Hundreds of thousands of people!

01:33:17.000 Oh, but they wouldn't be involved in a 9-11 attack that killed 3,000.

01:33:20.000 Oh yeah, they would.

01:33:22.000 They'd make excuses, how it was for America, and how it was to maintain our defenses in the 21st century, and how a few have to die for the better or the good, and it's this social Darwinistic view of we have to be strong, we have to be ruthless, we have to be more evil than our enemies to protect good.

01:33:42.000 Kind of a twist on what Churchill said about the truth being guarded by a bodyguard of lies.

01:33:47.000 Well, freedom and happiness being guarded by a bodyguard of evil.

01:33:54.000 This is the psychopathic rationale these people engage in.

01:34:00.000 And so now we have the admissions that Israel controls and found that Hamas manipulates and funds Hezbollah, that our government's been in bed with Iran on attacks on the Serbs, in bed with Iraq on attacks on Iran, busy stabbing each other in the back, backroom deals.

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01:34:46.000 And then, oh, we've got to go to war, we have evidence Iran's behind it, or Syria is behind it. 0.82

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01:39:07.000 All right, let's go ahead now and go back to your calls.

01:39:12.000 David Mass, thanks for holding.

01:39:14.000 Go ahead.

01:39:15.000 Alex, how are you today?

01:39:16.000 Good, sir.

01:39:17.000 And I hope you had a nice respite away from all the madness in our world.

01:39:21.000 I was so energized to be gone.

01:39:23.000 I mean, after two or three days, I finally relaxed and it was great, but I'm back in the saddle again.

01:39:29.000 Good to hear it.

01:39:29.000 Listen, I wanted to ask you whether you were able to catch on Erskine Overnight's interview with Lindsey Williams on July 9th.

01:39:40.000 No, but I've interviewed Lindsey and I'm fully aware of his good work.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:39:45.000 Well, let's just discuss a little bit about the financial aspects of this.

01:39:50.000 I mean, just as a quick little history lesson, everybody knows about right before the gold standard, Got taken off by Nixon.

01:39:58.000 Kissinger went to all the oil-producing nations, namely the Middle Eastern countries, Venezuela and the like.

01:40:05.000 And they made an agreement that... They made a deal.

01:40:07.000 That we would make oil the world reserve currency.

01:40:10.000 And not only that, but in addition to pricing the oil in dollars, the agreement was also, you have to take our treasury instruments also and hide it.

01:40:20.000 You have to hide our debt, and that's where the crux of the whole thing is.

01:40:24.000 Now, Lindsey Williams was talking on Erskine that he still has some connections into BP.

01:40:29.000 BP, British Petroleum, obviously people know, bought Atlantic Richfield, which was the other oil firm, about three years ago.

01:40:38.000 And supposedly this memo contains some unbelievable buzzword situations about how it's connected to the fiasco in the Middle East right now.

01:40:49.000 Essentially what you have over there is like, I'm not sure how to peg Ahmadinejad.

01:40:55.000 I don't know whether he's an intelligence operative or what.

01:40:58.000 That's the Iranian president for those who don't know.

01:41:01.000 Exactly.

01:41:01.000 So the point is that BP had in this memo, according to Lindsey Williams, about Buzzwords like, if America triples its oil consumption within the next framework, and that the Gar Island and Prudhoe Bay has enough reserves untapped to make America energy dependent for the next 150 years.

01:41:23.000 I mean, it's been proven.

01:41:26.000 He's got a copy of it.

01:41:27.000 Well, let me just say this.

01:41:31.000 Uh, everything that Lindsey says is verifiable from official documents.

01:41:35.000 We have official oil company documents, Associated Press got them in 2001, broke again last year.

01:41:41.000 Uh, that going back, now this is important, going back to 95-96, we have Exxon, Mobil, BP, Texaco documents.

01:41:50.000 Where they openly talk about buying up the 200-plus North American private refineries to close them because there's too much oil and they've got to artificially create a bottleneck.

01:42:00.000 Then we have, going back a decade ago, the CEO's own documents, we had Greg Powell's BBC on about this, where they openly say there's too much oil, we've got to fund the whole peak oil fraud and the whole global warming fraud.

01:42:15.000 Yes, that's actually the oil companies, folks.

01:42:18.000 This is how they're going to jack up the prices and convince you there's no oil.

01:42:21.000 We already know from other sources, from congressional testimony, from Nick Begich, his father, the congressman, the late congressman, who they clearly killed, that there's enough oil to run the U.S.

01:42:32.000 for hundreds and hundreds of years in Alaska.

01:42:34.000 But sir, we have 1978 documents where the U.S.

01:42:38.000 laid off 600 and something square miles off the coast of New Orleans, there in the Gulf of Mexico, that's got even more oil than Alaska, sir.

01:42:47.000 And then they just gave the Russians and the Mexicans most of the oil supply south of the United States there in the Gulf of Mexico. 0.60

01:42:54.000 So it's the same story over and over again.

01:42:56.000 Exactly the same, absolutely.

01:42:57.000 And the question is, is that we all know also by the President of the GAO, David Walker, who's also the Comptroller General, says that unless the U.S.

01:43:12.000 can do one of three things.

01:43:14.000 Essentially, they're not going to be able to pay the interest on the deficits that they've created past the third quarter of 2009.

01:43:22.000 Yes, and that's either double the money supply again, as Bernanke, the head of the Federal Reserve, is saying he's doing, or continuing to keep the dollar pegged to the oil, but now because the dollar has been devalued, you've got to then increase the price of oil, and then what was the supposed third thing?

01:43:39.000 That's right.

01:43:39.000 Well, there's three things.

01:43:41.000 That would have to happen, and this is according to Paul O'Neill's book also.

01:43:46.000 Two things, three things would have to happen.

01:43:48.000 One is that there would have to be a 65% increase in domestic taxation, which that would be unbelievable.

01:43:56.000 The second thing would be that they would have to dramatically cheapen the dollar to make the debt easier to service.

01:44:05.000 And three, they'd have to declare a force majeure, which of course is, we're not going to pay our debt, and there goes the dollar, there goes the economy, total collapse.

01:44:14.000 Hi Harry, I appreciate the call.

01:44:17.000 What the new alert is counting on is a slow decline of the dollar, and they're counting on the fact that these countries will not want to completely dump all of the notes that they've bought in our treasury bonds, because that would cause the world economy to crash.

01:44:30.000 So we're just seeing the slow slide of the United States in the third world status.

01:44:35.000 Yeah, I haven't had Lindsey on in years, and Lindsey's a nice fella, but there's just a lot of other really good sources, aren't there?

01:44:44.000 We have the official documents from so many other quarters that there's just quite a few places to get that information.

01:44:51.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jeff in Canada.

01:44:53.000 Jeff, welcome.

01:44:55.000 Hey, Alex.

01:44:56.000 Hi, just calling in.

01:44:57.000 I want to say excellent documentaries you have out there and everything.

01:45:02.000 But I wanted to tell you, like the one with Bohemian Grove and stuff like that, like I thought about, started thinking, okay, what can I do, you know, I want to do something.

01:45:10.000 So I started making phone calls, and I put them up on the internet.

01:45:13.000 And the one guy I talked to at Bohemian Grove, he's saying it's all nonsense, and it's all fake, and none of this stuff's real or anything.

01:45:22.000 And I thought that was hilarious because you know like they see me with my own eyes.

01:45:26.000 I've seen it documented.

01:45:27.000 Well said Bohemian Grove officially of San Francisco, that's where it's main office is, told International Television, Channel 4 out of England, then aired here in the US on Trio, that I did indeed sneak in and that I did indeed shoot video of the ritual.

01:45:41.000 I call both places.

01:45:42.000 I talk like a... Well, I mean, we have them officially on record saying that I indeed did get that video.

01:45:47.000 Yeah, but I wanted to... Major newspapers have also reported it.

01:45:50.000 I'm just saying, I don't... What some guy on the telephone says doesn't really matter, but go ahead.

01:45:54.000 No, but I just wanted you to check it.

01:45:55.000 Check them out.

01:45:56.000 If you wanted to, you might get a laugh out of it.

01:45:58.000 Sure, no, no, no.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:00.000 It's PumpItOut.com.

01:46:01.000 Check them out on that website.

01:46:03.000 I got them in the phone calls.

01:46:04.000 I call it controlled demolitions.

01:46:06.000 I ask them what pull it means.

01:46:08.000 And, you know, all kinds of stuff.

01:46:11.000 Like, you know, ever since... PumpItOut.com is your website?

01:46:14.000 Yeah, PumpItOut.com.

01:46:15.000 Now, uh... Ever since, like, 9-1-1 and everything, like, wow, it's just... I've heard, like, you and, like, been exposed to all this stuff and, like, even today what's going on, you know, you just watch, uh, the TV, even with the Lebanon and Israel and all that stuff, like, you get a whole different perspective on everything.

01:46:35.000 Let me just ask you a question.

01:46:36.000 When you call them, do you tell them you're recording it?

01:46:40.000 Uh...

01:46:40.000 No, I don't tell them, but I was told that I'm allowed to do that if I wanted to.

01:46:44.000 I have that straight from the police themselves.

01:46:48.000 No, no, no.

01:46:49.000 I'm trying to figure out if I can play these on air.

01:46:52.000 There's different laws in different states, different countries.

01:46:54.000 Well, I'm in Canada, and I asked them what it would be in Canada.

01:46:57.000 But whatever.

01:46:59.000 I don't know.

01:47:00.000 To, to, to call people?

01:47:01.000 Yeah, I could just, I could, I called FEMA, I called all the... Oh, no, no, no.

01:47:04.000 You can call the government, recorded.

01:47:06.000 I'm talking about calling organizations or individuals.

01:47:09.000 Uh, who specifically, uh, when you call Control Demolition Incorporated, for those that don't know, they blew up the evidence at Oklahoma City... Yeah, it was called... Let me just finish.

01:47:17.000 ...Modersky Company or something like that.

01:47:18.000 All right.

01:47:18.000 Modersky.

01:47:19.000 Will you hold on just a second for me?

01:47:20.000 Yeah.

01:47:21.000 Just for the listeners, I just want to tell them something real, real fast.

01:47:24.000 The Losex Company or something?

01:47:26.000 All right.

01:47:26.000 Go ahead and finish up, and then later I'll, I'll just do it.

01:47:28.000 Go ahead.

01:47:29.000 Oh, but yeah, it's just, I just, whatever, I don't know, I just started making calls.

01:47:32.000 I got strange calls coming from a Texas area court after I started making those calls, too.

01:47:37.000 Okay, let me just stop you and ask you a few questions.

01:47:39.000 Can I do that?

01:47:40.000 Sure.

01:47:42.000 Now, you say you call Controlled Demolition, Inc.

01:47:44.000 For those that don't know, Controlled Demolition, Inc.

01:47:47.000 are the guys that got rid of the evidence at Oklahoma City and the World Trade Center, and their job is blowing up buildings.

01:47:54.000 Exactly.

01:47:55.000 And you're saying you called them specifically?

01:47:58.000 Yeah, and asked them what pullet means.

01:47:59.000 Okay, who did you talk to there?

01:48:01.000 I just talked to the lady that answered the phone, but she got me to hold on a second.

01:48:04.000 It seemed like she went and asked.

01:48:06.000 I said, What would the term, pull it, mean in demolition terms, I asked her.

01:48:10.000 And then what do they come back and say?

01:48:12.000 She's like, hmm, I don't know, let me check.

01:48:14.000 And it seemed like she went away.

01:48:15.000 I understand she went away.

01:48:17.000 And then she came back and she said basically it means to pull it down.

01:48:20.000 So I'm like, okay, to pull the building down.

01:48:23.000 You know, to pull it down.

01:48:24.000 But, sir, we have the encyclopedia definition we have in the PBS documentary where they say they blew it up.

01:48:30.000 Well, that's where I was getting at.

01:48:31.000 In the same film, they say pull it means destroy it.

01:48:33.000 They tell us on the TV show what it means.

01:48:35.000 Yeah, that's where I got it from was the PBS documentary with Larry Silverstein.

01:48:39.000 He's sitting there saying, well, we decided to pull it, so we pulled it and watched the building fall.

01:48:44.000 So I said, well, okay, what does pull it mean?

01:48:46.000 Because there's a controversy over saying, well, he meant pull the fireman from the building.

01:48:53.000 But there was no firemen in the building and all that stuff.

01:48:56.000 Well, going back for just a second, because I'm intrigued by what you're doing.

01:48:59.000 Who did you talk to at Bohemian Grove?

01:49:00.000 You call San Francisco?

01:49:01.000 He said, yeah.

01:49:02.000 No, no.

01:49:03.000 I called the actual Bohemian Grove in Montreal.

01:49:05.000 And I talked to a security guy there.

01:49:07.000 This was probably like 2 or 3 in the morning.

01:49:09.000 And most of the time I got hung up on it and stuff.

01:49:11.000 But sometimes I've had people sit there and talk to me.

01:49:15.000 And I just ask them.

01:49:16.000 And he said, he goes, first he says he doesn't know who you are.

01:49:19.000 And then I ask him about Molec and the 50 foot owl and stuff like that.

01:49:23.000 And then he goes, Oh, well, you're just as wacky as Alex Jones is.

01:49:26.000 And I'm like, okay, whatever.

01:49:27.000 And then we're talking and he says, it's all propaganda.

01:49:32.000 And I say, well, you know, what I see on TV is propaganda and stuff like that.

01:49:36.000 This is, I think, real.

01:49:37.000 I looked at it myself.

01:49:38.000 And he just, you'd have a laugh if you heard some of these Well, hey, good job, man.

01:49:43.000 I'm going to check your site out, okay?

01:49:45.000 Thank you.

01:49:45.000 Keep it up.

01:49:47.000 I was trying to ascertain if I could air clips of it, but c'est la vie.

01:49:49.000 We'll be right back.

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01:53:33.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Cal in California, then Joe, Denise, Richard, and others.

01:53:37.000 Go ahead, Cal.

01:53:38.000 Hey there, Alex.

01:53:40.000 Good, sir.

01:53:40.000 How you doing?

01:53:41.000 It looks like I've got a theater for the last two weeks of August in San Francisco that holds 500 people that would be willing to play Terror Storm.

01:53:51.000 Well, I need to give you the number to my office, and we need to work out some type of agreement to do that.

01:53:56.000 Thank you very much, because I sent an email last week.

01:53:59.000 I hadn't heard back.

01:54:00.000 The problem is we don't have enough money to have enough employees, so it's turned into an insane asylum here.

01:54:00.000 Yeah, I know.

01:54:06.000 Hey, I'm on your side.

01:54:07.000 No, no, no, no.

01:54:08.000 That's why I'm saying we need support because I need to really organize things a little bit better so we can actually respond.

01:54:08.000 I'm just letting you know.

01:54:14.000 I mean, I've got like BBC and 60 Minutes and people I haven't even called back.

01:54:19.000 I mean, it's just turned into, it's crazy.

01:54:21.000 Well, this is why I'm calling.

01:54:22.000 I have on my space, TerrorStormSF, as in San Francisco.

01:54:28.000 If anyone's out there in the area can help, especially in the promotion part, please get on there.

01:54:35.000 I've learned that with my films, I've got to actually retain some of the copyright and some of the control or bad stuff can happen.

01:54:41.000 I trust you.

01:54:42.000 I need to talk to my office before we do anything like that, but it sounds good to me.

01:54:47.000 So let's figure something out, my friend.

01:54:50.000 Well, this isn't my office.

01:54:52.000 You're talking to Minnesota right now, hooked into me in Austin, Texas.

01:54:56.000 I'm in Texas.

01:54:56.000 You need to call my office.

01:54:58.000 And it's on the internet, the number?

01:54:59.000 Yes, it is, sir.

01:55:00.000 It's in the contact area.

01:55:01.000 And it's in the media area.

01:55:02.000 Thank you so much.

01:55:04.000 Yes, we need people to sponsor Showing Terror Storm in theaters across the country.

01:55:09.000 It's the only way it'll happen.

01:55:10.000 But we need to work that out and how that's going to be done.

01:55:14.000 Here's an example.

01:55:14.000 I just say, air it if you want.

01:55:16.000 Well, we've had theaters air my films off of downloads off the internet.

01:55:20.000 And then newspapers go and do reviews of my film blown up from the internet as some big blob you can't even see.

01:55:27.000 So it needs to be, hey, you get the master from us.

01:55:30.000 Hey, be smart about it.

01:55:31.000 Buy a bunch of originals from us so you can sell them there.

01:55:34.000 We'll sell them to you wholesale.

01:55:36.000 That way I get some money back because I can't make films anymore if I don't make some money.

01:55:40.000 I'm going to be quite honest with you.

01:55:42.000 You know, instead of spending $25,000, you spend $80,000 on a movie, and you actually go get the music produced and fly around the world and make these films.

01:55:53.000 I have got to focus more on making money.

01:55:55.000 I focus on fighting the New World Order constantly, and it just doesn't cut it.

01:56:01.000 So we need your support right now.

01:56:04.000 And so if you want to show the films, we need to work up agreements.

01:56:07.000 I need to make a standard agreement for everybody because I keep having to reinvent the wheel every time I authorize somebody to do this.

01:56:13.000 And then we'll post it on the site.

01:56:14.000 We'll promote it for you.

01:56:15.000 It'll be good for everybody.

01:56:17.000 Alright, let's try to jam another call in.

01:56:20.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Joe in Wisconsin.

01:56:22.000 Joe, go ahead.

01:56:23.000 Hi Alex, I have a sensitive topic for you.

01:56:26.000 I was listening to talk radio and it sounded like the talk host got a death threat.

01:56:32.000 He was insistent that Bin Laden did it.

01:56:35.000 He's been having anti-Arab, pro-Israel guests.

01:56:40.000 That isn't so odd, but he said, well, yes, maybe the government was complicit, but it was not a MIHOP operation.

01:56:48.000 My spin on that is that they're going to leak, and they're going to burn an official.

01:56:53.000 I don't know who it is, but they're going to probably throw the masses a bone, and they're going to sell this person as sold out.

01:57:01.000 And, you know, that's supposed to pass.

01:57:03.000 I understand.

01:57:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:04.000 Claim, we had government officials under Al-Qaeda control.

01:57:08.000 Well, I don't think he's compromised.

01:57:10.000 I think it's a cry for help.

01:57:11.000 I mean, I'm not talking about your talk show.

01:57:12.000 I'm talking about something I've been saying for years.

01:57:15.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:16.000 And it feels like it.

01:57:17.000 Let me just say real quick, that as the globalists get exposed on 9-11, well, it's like FBI agents who said, it was in the AP, they said, it's as if Al-Qaeda has moles in the FBI.

01:57:26.000 No, you got it backwards.

01:57:28.000 The FBI and CIA are Al-Qaeda.

01:57:30.000 We'll be right back.

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01:57:55.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 Well, we're extremely honored to have the guest joining us today in the shower.

01:58:17.000 I know we have a lot of callers we're holding, including Joe, we'll get to later.

01:58:24.000 So everybody, stay there.

01:58:25.000 We'll get to your calls later in this hour.

01:58:26.000 The toll-free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.

01:58:31.000 But I'm honored to be joined by the guest who is joining us right now.

01:58:36.000 He's Sam Danner, and he, of course, is an electrician-engineer who also has been a pilot for a long time.

01:58:46.000 And on 9-11, he was driving past the Pentagon and saw what can only be described as a Global Hawk cruise missile Flying at high speed into the building.

01:58:58.000 And of course, there's a lot of other people who claim they saw big jets, small jets, missiles.

01:59:03.000 I mean, whatever version you want, you can find a witness that saw it.

01:59:06.000 And there have been a lot of questions about the size of the hole, and how it penetrated three rings of the Pentagon, or four rings, and how there was lack of physical evidence left there at the site.

01:59:22.000 Where's the luggage?

01:59:23.000 Where are the people?

01:59:24.000 And where did this huge plane go?

01:59:27.000 And then we have to look at the bizarre coincidence that one of the U.S.

01:59:31.000 government pilots who'd taken part a year before in government drills of flying hijacked jets into the Pentagon just so happened to be the supposed pilot piloting that flight that day that hit the Pentagon, Flight 77.

01:59:47.000 So joining us is Sam Danner, who I guess a few months ago I saw loose change second edition and then tried to contact them.

01:59:56.000 They've been so busy.

01:59:57.000 I know the feeling they missed it, but now I know they're in contact.

02:00:00.000 And then he went out and did a few other interviews with some other individuals, and so now we're able to interview him here.

02:00:07.000 So, Mr. Danner, thank you for coming on with us.

02:00:10.000 Well, thank you for having me.

02:00:11.000 It's a joy to be here on this nice hot day.

02:00:14.000 You bet, and also I might add that you've been a little bit ill, too.

02:00:18.000 You're battling cancer right now, aren't you?

02:00:21.000 Yeah, I have type B lymphoma cancer.

02:00:26.000 When I say type B, I'm just giving you the directive of what the physicians call it.

02:00:32.000 It's a low-grade insulin cancer and it doesn't run off like a raging wildfire.

02:00:38.000 So this cancer is more or less what they call slow insulin cancer and it can take its good old time or it can accelerate and I'm not worried.

02:00:49.000 They can accelerate and rapidly deteriorate a person or it can last for... I'm 53 years old, it can last 30 years and I can live to be 83.

02:00:58.000 And you're going through treatment right now, aren't you?

02:01:02.000 Well, I just wrapped up a round of treatment.

02:01:05.000 It's called Rituxan.

02:01:07.000 It's not a conventional chemotherapy as we know it.

02:01:11.000 It's a production of cells.

02:01:16.000 Based on the use of mouse cells, like a mouse, and then an animal, and they take your cells, and it's not a brain stem thing, any of this kind of stuff, it's just that somehow they have developed this process somewhere in Europe, and anyway, it's not a goofball thing, it works.

02:01:39.000 And it helps to boister and boost your own immune system to kill the cancer itself.

02:01:46.000 Is this some type of basically genetic treatment?

02:01:50.000 Yeah, I would call it.

02:01:51.000 When you say genetic, I think about my own DNA or my own genetics.

02:01:57.000 But it's along that sort of thing.

02:02:01.000 Well, we're glad that you're starting to do better.

02:02:04.000 We'll all pray for you.

02:02:05.000 We're going to break.

02:02:06.000 You bet, sir.

02:02:07.000 When we come back, Mr. Danner, I want to just have you spend a few minutes telling us about yourself a little bit.

02:02:15.000 You know, someone of a fan of aircraft and so you know what different types of aircraft look like.

02:02:21.000 You've studied military aircraft.

02:02:23.000 When we get back, I want you to tell us, basically, blow by blow, what happened that day, what you witnessed, what you saw when you were there at the Pentagon.

02:02:31.000 Because we have all these other suspicious characters, USA Today editors and others, who clearly saw the plane and clearly saw the people and, you know, all of this stuff that's impossible compared to your story.

02:02:42.000 We'll be right back.

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02:05:57.000 Sam Danner was born in 1953 in Washington, D.C.

02:06:00.000 And he got married at the age of 22, and he's raised three children.

02:06:07.000 And of course, at 16, Mr. Danner started taking his first plane ride.

02:06:13.000 He then took flying lessons at a very young age.

02:06:15.000 He took pilot training for many years, but never took the exam.

02:06:18.000 The reason being that his wife wanted him at home to be with the family, which he enjoyed, and to promise her he would not die from an airplane accident.

02:06:28.000 The same thing with my dad.

02:06:29.000 He took helicopter lessons in years and years of small plane.

02:06:36.000 I guess private aviation lessons, and he would have a license for a while, then he would let it lapse because my mom didn't like it, and then he would go back and get it again, and then get rid of it, and then when you're not keeping your pilot's license up, then you can't have people basically flying with you, is the rule.

02:06:51.000 But the point is, is that Mr. Danner knows aircraft, has flown for years, and he also was an engineer for Amtrak, doing engineering work and electrical work for them.

02:07:04.000 He's been married to his wife for 30 years.

02:07:07.000 And again, he worked for a number of years for the National Passenger Rail Institute, or Amtrak.

02:07:13.000 He was an electrician on the electric AM7 locomotives.

02:07:17.000 Today, he is an electrician and engineer for a large Fortune 500 company.

02:07:21.000 And we appreciate his courage coming on the show.

02:07:24.000 He has a large interest in military aircraft, as well as commercial aircraft.

02:07:27.000 He is a Christian man who was at the Pentagon on September 11, 2006, driving his 1995 Saturn.

02:07:35.000 He would, and he who would never trust the government as he did then, his life is changed now by what he saw.

02:07:42.000 These are some of the things that he wrote to us.

02:07:44.000 We asked him for a small bio today and this is posted up on InfoWars.com right now.

02:07:50.000 And again, Sam Danner joins us.

02:07:52.000 Sam, please go over a little bit about yourself and then what you saw that day versus what the media has been telling us supposedly hit the Pentagon.

02:08:02.000 Well, first of all, Alex, I want to thank you for that fine intro.

02:08:05.000 That was the best one I've heard.

02:08:07.000 Thank you.

02:08:08.000 You did a real good job with that.

02:08:09.000 Well, I'll tell you, I guess I'll just tell you the story straight off the bat.

02:08:18.000 And since I've repeated it up now, I'm pretty much got down to a sinus.

02:08:24.000 But, you know, I'll tell you, I mean, I'm 53 years old and I And how many of you in the listening audience, I wish I could see a show of hands, but in your listening audience, if I would say, how many of you can remember the old Superman series with George Reeves in it?

02:08:41.000 And George Reeves used to stand at the end of the show, behind, or in front of a blowing American flag, and of course it was in black and white in those days.

02:08:52.000 I remember that!

02:08:53.000 And he stood for truth, justice, and the American way.

02:08:57.000 Well I grew up, you remember that Alex, I mean you're somewhere in my age category and you grew up with that or at least you grew up with the reruns of it.

02:09:05.000 Yeah the reruns.

02:09:07.000 Yeah the reruns, well I remember the real deal and I came up with that mentality that that's the way it was you know America was the great nation on earth and like a boy scout I was a boy scout and I mean I'm not saying I was The point is, you believe in America.

02:09:28.000 You didn't believe we had evil people in government.

02:09:30.000 You didn't believe we were lied to.

02:09:31.000 There you go.

02:09:32.000 Hit the nail on the head.

02:09:33.000 I believe what the man said.

02:09:35.000 Whatever the president said, you believed it.

02:09:36.000 Nothing was second-guessed.

02:09:38.000 You turned the news on.

02:09:40.000 News said this happened.

02:09:41.000 That happened.

02:09:42.000 Now, in today's generation, with all this spin, cable news network, internet, and all this stuff, you don't know what to believe.

02:09:49.000 So when I'm down in Amtrak, I'm down physically down at the Amtrak coach yard, where coaches would keep passenger cars.

02:09:58.000 I'm down there on the day of September 11th, that faithful day.

02:10:03.000 And I'm seeing, I'm currently not, I'm not employed there.

02:10:08.000 I was employed there.

02:10:08.000 I enjoyed my job there very much.

02:10:10.000 I'd be there today if it wasn't for that long grind between there and home.

02:10:15.000 It was a two hour and a half ride.

02:10:17.000 But I'm a train bluff too, besides an airplane guy, so you can see some of that in me maybe.

02:10:24.000 But I was, at that day, visiting with all my former work peers when the first plane struck.

02:10:34.000 I forget which tower I hit first.

02:10:36.000 But anyway, when that happened, and they had the television set inside of a facility which had It was a weight room, you know, and you went in there and you lifted weights and all that stuff.

02:10:48.000 Nutritional counter places.

02:10:51.000 Amtrak had all those benefits.

02:10:53.000 Of course, it's government subsidized, so your tax dollars are in there, too, paying for these drills.

02:10:59.000 And I was looking at this and wondering about, you know, what's taken back by all this stuff.

02:11:05.000 You know, planes were running into the World Trade Center.

02:11:11.000 I don't think the second one had hit yet.

02:11:13.000 So, I went ahead and I decided that if this was a rogue nation attack in every hidden place in New York, you know, I'm one block away.

02:11:25.000 I'm at Union Station, Washington, DC.

02:11:27.000 I'm one block away from the capital.

02:11:30.000 Capital of this great nation.

02:11:32.000 So I thought, well, something's going to happen here, and if they can ram these things out that way, I don't know.

02:11:38.000 I assumed, I trusted that the Air National Guard or somebody was protecting the city, or what may it be.

02:11:44.000 But I got in my car, and proceeded to go out of the city of Washington.

02:11:50.000 So, you East Coast listeners, you people here from Washington, D.C., I went out, what they call Interstate 395, and I live in Western Maryland, up in Mountain Park.

02:12:02.000 I'm not real familiar.

02:12:03.000 I'm from Washington, D.C., as Alex had read.

02:12:07.000 But, you know, when I was a child, you didn't have all these interstates.

02:12:10.000 You didn't have the Beltway.

02:12:12.000 They had name shows after that, the Beltway Boys on Fox News.

02:12:16.000 So you decided to go home?

02:12:18.000 Yeah, I decided to go home.

02:12:20.000 I wanted to get out of Dodge before something bad happened.

02:12:23.000 Like, I didn't know if they were going to light one off, I mean, light off a nuclear weapon here, or what they were going to do.

02:12:28.000 Oh, there could be panic.

02:12:29.000 You were smart to go home with your family.

02:12:30.000 So, you began driving home.

02:12:32.000 Tell us what road you were on and what you witnessed.

02:12:34.000 Well, I went on this 395, and what I thought was 395, turned out to actually be Route 27.

02:12:42.000 And the 395 turns into 95.

02:12:44.000 So actually, it's a real road, 395, but it's only, Alex, it's only like 10 miles long, and that's the end of that interstate.

02:12:51.000 And that's just some convenience interstate they built as one of these bypass things.

02:12:58.000 So you got turned around.

02:12:59.000 Yeah, I got turned.

02:13:00.000 Well, wait a minute.

02:13:01.000 I'm headed south, and I missed the George Washington Parkway.

02:13:05.000 I wanted to go west to where I live, and I missed that.

02:13:10.000 And so I continued to go south, and I'm coming up on the Pentagon now.

02:13:18.000 So, here we come up on the Pentagon, and I'm not, you know, I'm listening to the current events with the Trade Center thing.

02:13:27.000 Okay, so you're driving along, listening to the radio.

02:13:29.000 What road are you on at this time?

02:13:31.000 I'm on Route 27.

02:13:33.000 That's on the west-hand side of the The Pentagon with interstate 95.

02:13:33.000 Okay.

02:13:40.000 Sure.

02:13:41.000 The big long interstate.

02:13:42.000 It goes from Boston all the way down to Florida.

02:13:46.000 Okay.

02:13:47.000 That's our main east coast highway.

02:13:48.000 So you're driving along listening.

02:13:50.000 Tell us what happened next.

02:13:51.000 Alright, so I looked to my left and I saw... I'll just tell you what I saw.

02:13:56.000 I thought I was looking at a UFO.

02:13:59.000 It was very rapid.

02:14:01.000 Just very rapid flying.

02:14:04.000 It looked in that distance.

02:14:06.000 In this distance.

02:14:08.000 It looked like a disc.

02:14:09.000 I mean, because it's moving real fast, and it's going real fast, and I don't want to hit the guy's bumper in front of me, so I pulled the car off the road, because...

02:14:18.000 Well, this is something a little weird.

02:14:20.000 I want to see you get a better look at this, but it didn't come along.

02:14:22.000 Now, that's how planes look because according to articles I read about your description, Mr. Danner, it's coming basically straight at you, towards you.

02:14:31.000 That's how you were able to get a longer look than those who just saw it briefly from the side.

02:14:35.000 So, you're looking at it from the front.

02:14:38.000 Please continue.

02:14:40.000 Okay.

02:14:41.000 Well, if you call me Samurai, you can knock off that Mr. Danner thing.

02:14:45.000 Alright.

02:14:48.000 This thing, which I didn't know was a plane, coming around, we'll say around the bend, actually it was this plane that was in this 270 degree turn, to come around, that's how Dusselier found out.

02:15:01.000 And it was coming from what direction?

02:15:02.000 It was coming, okay, so I'm going south, it's headed southwest, and it's making an arc around towards me.

02:15:09.000 So it's this thing, I saw it bank, and then I saw wings.

02:15:14.000 I thought, okay, it's not a UFO.

02:15:16.000 Well, why is this plane moving at such a rapid speed and flying so low?

02:15:21.000 And, you know, it never dawned on me that it was a cruise missile or anything like that.

02:15:29.000 With all the terrorism stuff and everything we're currently experiencing on the radio, live, right there on that road, it never occurred to me that this was an attack vessel of some sort.

02:15:40.000 So, as this thing bore approach to me then, I got a real good head-on shot of it.

02:15:46.000 I mean, I got a really good look.

02:15:47.000 I stopped the car, got out of the car and stood and leaned my hands, my arms on the window and stared at this thing.

02:15:55.000 So you're on the side of the road at this time?

02:15:57.000 Yes, I'm all the way over in the grass.

02:15:58.000 I didn't want to get hit by anybody.

02:16:01.000 So you see it banking around, you pull over, now it's coming straight at you.

02:16:04.000 What did it look like?

02:16:06.000 Well, what it looked like, it had the funniest looking front I ever saw in my life.

02:16:11.000 It didn't have a module, or it didn't have a nose, as I knew aircraft to have.

02:16:16.000 There was no windshield, no nothing.

02:16:20.000 It had this big humpback wheel kind of a thing.

02:16:23.000 It was like a radar dome, as I later saw pictures of this aircraft.

02:16:32.000 I'm pretty sure it probably had some kind of guidance system inside this dome.

02:16:37.000 And you described that it had a V-tail and what, one engine up on the back?

02:16:41.000 Yeah, it had a V-tail, which reminds me of the old Beechcraft Bonanza.

02:16:46.000 I call it the Bonanza tail.

02:16:48.000 That was the first thing.

02:16:49.000 Somebody recognized that one.

02:16:51.000 Somebody else interviewed me.

02:16:53.000 And how many engines?

02:16:55.000 It had one engine and it reminded me of the 727.

02:16:58.000 Did it have the straighter wings or swept wings?

02:17:04.000 It had, the wings were, they were very slightly swept.

02:17:10.000 Well I'm looking at a picture of a Global Hawk and I know since then you've had a chance to look at pictures of Global Hawk.

02:17:15.000 Did what you see resemble a Global Hawk?

02:17:17.000 Well yeah, I've looked at that Global Hawk many times.

02:17:20.000 That's what I saw.

02:17:22.000 I mean, that's the front.

02:17:24.000 I gave it that front and that one engine and the V-tail.

02:17:26.000 That's what gave it away.

02:17:27.000 Okay, stay there.

02:17:29.000 At this point, you're pulled over.

02:17:30.000 It's coming straight at you.

02:17:31.000 When we get back, we'll continue with what you saw in the next few seconds.

02:17:35.000 We'll talk about what color it was, how fast you think it was moving, and then what you did from there.

02:17:40.000 Sam Danner is our guest.

02:17:42.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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02:21:44.000 Sam Danner is our guest.

02:22:05.000 Picking up where we left off.

02:22:07.000 He sees an aircraft coming at high speed at a distance.

02:22:11.000 He pulls over.

02:22:13.000 It gets closer.

02:22:13.000 It's coming head on.

02:22:15.000 And it looks identical to a Global Honk heavy cruise missile slash drone.

02:22:22.000 Please continue, Sam.

02:22:25.000 Well, this thing, I guess I got about a three Second head-on look.

02:22:32.000 I think about this all the time now.

02:22:36.000 And as it headed towards me, I thought, for some crazy reason, I thought it was going to hit me.

02:22:43.000 I mean, it's down low, and I hear a noise like a low rumble, but now a thunderous noise, so you don't hear that F-18 afterburner type.

02:22:55.000 You know, it's moving fast.

02:22:57.000 It's moving really fast.

02:22:59.000 But you don't hear that thunderous jet, that jet engine noise.

02:23:03.000 And I heard a, I heard a, as it began to make a turn, it made a real sharp, and then it dipped down.

02:23:09.000 I get this now.

02:23:10.000 It's making a sharp, oh, 180 degree turn into the Pentagon, but it's not going straight into the Pentagon, like straight from the west, westerly side.

02:23:23.000 It goes in at an angle, perpendicular to the helicopter pad, which is out, out in the back.

02:23:29.000 And as it makes that turn, they kind of dip down over the road.

02:23:34.000 As a maneuver, only a pilot of military scores.

02:23:40.000 Some way that was programmed into this thing, or somebody... So with incredible precision, it flies down, and then as soon as it goes over the crest of the raised highway, it then drops down?

02:23:49.000 Yeah, it dropped down, and I thought, man... So it's hugging the terrain?

02:23:54.000 The audience isn't a word for it.

02:23:56.000 I don't know how else to describe it.

02:23:59.000 I mean, it was like a magnet.

02:24:01.000 And no, I mean, you know, I found out later, you know, this allegedly was, when I was out there looking for this thing with these other feds or these other federal people, you know, what kind of plane on the news is spreading around leaking 757.

02:24:16.000 The more time I spent there, the angrier I got.

02:24:21.000 Because I realized something was terribly out of place.

02:24:24.000 Well, describe in a nutshell what else happened that day.

02:24:27.000 So it flies, it dips down.

02:24:29.000 What type of explosion did you see?

02:24:31.000 What did you witness?

02:24:32.000 Well, that all happened so fast.

02:24:35.000 What caught me off guard, I was taken aback by multiple things.

02:24:38.000 Of course, that explosion.

02:24:39.000 I mean, I didn't expect that to be quite... It had a lot of bang to it.

02:24:44.000 It was a brilliant white Brilliant white light.

02:24:48.000 So it's so sudden, it was really fast, it just suddenly turns, it's coming straight at you, it turns, it dips down, hugs the ground, you see a huge white explosion.

02:24:55.000 Yeah, in fact I was still overwhelmed by that turn thing, that when the explosion went off, I wasn't, I was fazed and startled by that, but I was still stunned by the turn thing.

02:25:07.000 I hadn't gotten over that, because my mind's thinking the whole time about this.

02:25:14.000 The explosion was extremely bright and white and then we had, we didn't have that, we had a fireball, but we didn't have that super fireball like when, of course all your fuel and those in the audience I know, I hope most of them understand the principles of aviation, but Remember, fuel on aircraft are held in the wings.

02:25:36.000 And, um, you know, my own mother didn't know that for years.

02:25:41.000 But anyway, the wings hold the majority of JP-4.

02:25:44.000 It is refined grade kerosene.

02:25:46.000 And I, you know, if this would have been a substantial aircraft like the 757 Boeing, and I hit that with, I don't know how many thousand pounds of fuel it would have had just coming from Dulles, that would, it would have been a catastrophic fireball.

02:26:01.000 So this fireball was big, but it didn't remind me of some classic crashes I've seen that were staged, you know, with a full load of fuel.

02:26:11.000 I don't know how much.

02:26:12.000 Of course it went out, it flew out from Dulles from what I was told, and then went out somewhere in Ohio where there was a swap or something went wrong, or something changed, and then we have this This other thing comes back and of course that's another part of the story.

02:26:27.000 When we get back, I want to go over for a few minutes what you did after you saw the explosion.

02:26:32.000 You say you went and you helped.

02:26:33.000 Oh, it's very interesting, yes.

02:26:36.000 What you witnessed there on the grounds, what happened and We will then get a little bit into why you decided, over the next few years, what you were thinking while you were watching the news, while you were hearing the official story, and then how you finally decided to go public in the last few months.

02:26:59.000 Uh, Sam, because this is all, as you know, so important, and then how other people claim they saw something like a missile, but then others claim they saw a big plane, others say they saw a small plane, others say they saw a small commuter.

02:27:12.000 What we know is something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

02:27:15.000 Somebody had to be staging these stories.

02:27:18.000 I know what I saw, and it wasn't a 757.

02:27:22.000 It wasn't a commuter jet.

02:27:23.000 I don't know.

02:27:24.000 I just don't know.

02:27:25.000 Unless you have multiple aircraft, and I missed it.

02:27:28.000 I don't know what else to say, sir.

02:27:29.000 Well, stay there, sir.

02:27:30.000 We'll be right back after this quick break.

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02:33:36.000 Wow, Debbie, sounds like your cordless phone's having a problem there.

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02:33:49.000 We always like to have Debbie on because she's the lady or one of the ladies that helps her that you'll talk to. 0.98

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02:34:55.000 Now let's go back to Sam Danner.

02:34:58.000 Sam, we left off with this white hot explosion.

02:35:01.000 You're on the side of the highway, right up above the Pentagon.

02:35:05.000 Tell us what you did next.

02:35:06.000 Go through it for us.

02:35:08.000 My first reaction was to run.

02:35:10.000 To run towards the accident, the scene.

02:35:13.000 You know, and I, we have, I was looking at some pictures.

02:35:17.000 A friend of mine sent me, that were taken down there, trying to pick my car out and various other things, and they were in there.

02:35:28.000 But Eric Huffschmidt, he's a friend of mine.

02:35:31.000 Anyway, I saw where my car was positioned on the highway, and I jumped over these concrete dividers and all that stuff, but it wasn't fenced in where I was at, and I had direct access right to this thing.

02:35:45.000 I ran up to it, and it seemed like people on the road were all jumping out and running.

02:35:52.000 So we were all running together.

02:35:57.000 Sincere help, even though I knew in the back of my mind I wasn't sold to survive this thing, as an emergency medical technician.

02:36:06.000 Now, for those of you that are investigating me, I was formerly an emergency medical technician in the state of Maryland.

02:36:12.000 So you go ahead and continue your licensed researches.

02:36:15.000 I know I'm being checked out, okay?

02:36:18.000 But that's the story.

02:36:19.000 So I'll go out and I'm still keep up I understand sir, you have the training, you've done this in your career, and so it's the instinctive thing to try to go help people when you see a crisis happen, so please continue.

02:36:34.000 So that's what I was doing.

02:36:35.000 So anyway, I went down there, and all of a sudden just everything changed.

02:36:40.000 Just everything changed.

02:36:41.000 All these people, just before the fire, the airport fire department equipment showed up, these white shirted Full-dressed student men just came out of nowhere and well-dressed employees, men and women, they were coming out.

02:36:58.000 Some of them were crying.

02:37:00.000 Some of them looked confused.

02:37:02.000 The whole thing was nothing but a mass confusion because nobody seemed to be in charge of what was going on except for one gentleman who I'll mention here in a minute.

02:37:14.000 What about the light poles?

02:37:17.000 Whenever Bush's Learjet was coming back in fog, it hit a pole, it didn't knock the pole over, and it tore the wing off.

02:37:27.000 This is what always happens, but in this case, and I've said this, it looks like the light poles are like blasted up from stumps.

02:37:35.000 You can't even see damage on the poles themselves.

02:37:38.000 What did you see?

02:37:39.000 I saw one point it looked like it had been struck somebody took a sledgehammer and beat it and it was bent sideways or something that something hit it but I don't think it was I don't I think it was staged a light pole and somebody had damaged somewhere and dropped that off that was later on I now happen to notice it was in the road it's kind of weird isn't it I noticed it was in the road after the fact but what I did see I heard this this bang bang I I didn't I thought it was sonic boom I didn't know what it was and and this

02:38:09.000 I turned behind me and saw light poles, two light poles, that were airborne going backwards.

02:38:15.000 I mean... When did this happen?

02:38:18.000 This happened right when this explosion took place.

02:38:21.000 It was like a coordinated thing or something.

02:38:24.000 So the plane's already flown past the poles?

02:38:27.000 Yeah, already flown past the poles, and then the poles all of a sudden pop off the ground. 0.96

02:38:31.000 Did the explosions with the poles, or the poles popping, did that happen right after the big explosion with the Pentagon, or did it happen after?

02:38:39.000 That happened almost simultaneously, or right afterwards.

02:38:42.000 And there were four bolts There were L-shaped bolts.

02:38:46.000 I put these things in before, and the concrete was just pulverized dust, and it just flew everywhere, and these four bolts just separated.

02:38:53.000 I don't know how... I can't account for it.

02:38:57.000 You know, I don't know.

02:38:58.000 I can't tell you how it happened.

02:39:00.000 So anyway... Who was this individual who you said seemed like he knew what was going on?

02:39:05.000 Well, that's this gentleman that, if you look at the helicopter shot, the helicopter shot from Fox News, okay?

02:39:11.000 I'm about the fifth or sixth guy from, uh, as you look at the picture from the left-hand side, I'm bent over, I'm wearing an ambulance jacket, and I'm picking up trash, and this gentleman that's well-dressed is standing behind me.

02:39:25.000 Well, he's the one I'm asking all these questions to, And I'm picking up all these pictures, pieces of little shrapnel of aluminum.

02:39:34.000 You've already heard this story, okay?

02:39:35.000 And little pieces of resins and fiber, like fiberglass, and this sort of stuff, this type of thing that Airbus 318s are made out of, this stuff.

02:39:45.000 Unstabilizers are made out of it. 0.84

02:39:48.000 It's a composite type thing.

02:39:50.000 I'm trying to explain it to your listeners.

02:39:52.000 I mean, it's a resident manufactured part, and it's very lightweight and very, very strong.

02:39:59.000 This stuff that was melted and exploded, it was kind of like molten kind of stuff.

02:40:02.000 But you see the nice, fine shape to it, and all this stuff was painted black.

02:40:06.000 It looked like space shuttle tiles.

02:40:08.000 Well, that's an important question.

02:40:10.000 What color was the aircraft you saw?

02:40:12.000 Part of it was black, and part of it was white.

02:40:15.000 But then I saw in a picture almost a duplicate of that.

02:40:21.000 We have a photo of a Global Hawk where it's black and white.

02:40:26.000 Yeah, it was like that.

02:40:27.000 It followed that line of thinking.

02:40:29.000 Well anyway, I asked this gentleman, why were we spending time picking up this nickel and dime waste?

02:40:38.000 I said, aren't you going to get the There's little orange flags that we use.

02:40:43.000 The National Safety Transportation Board supplies all this stuff for special stuff, special damaged material, bodies, all that.

02:40:51.000 I had a million questions and I was starting to get, I was irritated. 0.99

02:40:54.000 I mean, this sounds stupid. 0.88

02:40:56.000 Maybe I wasn't, I don't know, my emotions were focusing on being irritated. 1.00

02:41:01.000 And he just told me straight up, and I'll say it again because I've already said it on the radio, it's none of your damn business. 0.98

02:41:07.000 That's just what he told me, this gentleman. 0.98

02:41:09.000 His name was Eckstein because I saw his badge.

02:41:11.000 He had a badge that was not like a police officer's badge, but it was like a rectangular type of badge.

02:41:16.000 What did his badge say again?

02:41:18.000 What did the man say to me?

02:41:20.000 No, no.

02:41:20.000 What did the badge say?

02:41:22.000 Oh, the badge just gave his name.

02:41:24.000 It'd be like something Erckstein.

02:41:28.000 It's middle initial Erckstein.

02:41:30.000 And that was it, as if he held some kind of a position.

02:41:34.000 I guess he was some kind of office supervisor.

02:41:36.000 Can we have the photos of these people in white shirts and ties, and running around picking up pieces?

02:41:41.000 Well, that guy behind me, if you're looking at it, I don't have it in front of me, I have it on my computer, but if you're looking at it, at that picture, I mean, it's the most public picture, if Spock shot that from a helicopter, he's behind me, and he's getting annoyed with me, and I'm getting annoyed with him, And I'm trying to think of some of these other audits.

02:42:03.000 What else did you see?

02:42:05.000 Well, I forgot to tell you before, the instinct to run.

02:42:10.000 Well, when I got kind of like towed off by this guy, I immediately lost interest in picking this stuff up.

02:42:20.000 So I had a strategy.

02:42:21.000 I saw what looked to be a jet engine, okay?

02:42:26.000 It looked to be a jet engine from a distance, so I just Picked up as much of this stuff as I could pick up.

02:42:31.000 It's real thin, beer can style, is what I call it.

02:42:35.000 Uh, real thin aluminum.

02:42:37.000 Uh, maybe not quite that thin, but it's pretty thin.

02:42:40.000 Pretty wobbly.

02:42:41.000 And these guys are out here in dress shirts and ties.

02:42:43.000 Nobody concerned about anybody alive.

02:42:46.000 No drop of blood.

02:42:47.000 Not any bodies.

02:42:48.000 No, no nothing.

02:42:49.000 Nothing gory or ghoulish about this.

02:42:51.000 And they're just going about their business picking up things.

02:42:54.000 And they're picking them up real fast!

02:42:56.000 What's the point behind all of this, I'm thinking?

02:42:58.000 They're not worried about people inside the burning building?

02:43:01.000 No, they weren't.

02:43:01.000 They didn't seem worried about anybody.

02:43:03.000 You know, and that's what, that lit me off even more.

02:43:06.000 The fire department was concerned.

02:43:08.000 And so, this is another, this is something else.

02:43:11.000 After 20 minutes goes by, Alex, after 20 minutes goes by, we were told, stand back, stand back, stand back, everybody stand back.

02:43:19.000 Well, you know, you didn't dare ask why.

02:43:21.000 Why did the fire trucks dump all that sand out there? 0.67

02:43:24.000 I'm not sure what the function of that whole thing was.

02:43:29.000 I'm not really sure.

02:43:30.000 I had too much going on in my mind.

02:43:32.000 I wondered to myself, and I thought if I say anything else they're going to have me in jail or they'll put me in a hospital.

02:43:37.000 So they're saying stand back?

02:43:39.000 Well, they're saying stand back, so we stood back, and lo and behold, as soon as we got within distance, within the thing collapsed.

02:43:45.000 They knew it was going to fall.

02:43:47.000 I mean, I didn't hear any thud or bump or anything like an explosion.

02:43:51.000 How big was the hole that you saw before the Pentagon collapsed?

02:43:56.000 Well, without being biased by all these figures I've been tossed to, I'd say nine to sixteen feet.

02:44:06.000 Nine to sixteen feet, and I got within three feet of that engine.

02:44:10.000 I could feel it.

02:44:11.000 It had either bounced off the wall, It had bounced off that wall, or it had... How big was it?

02:44:19.000 The turbine, the turbine with the blades, they were all broken off.

02:44:23.000 But if the blades had been on, I'd say the turbine might have made, it might have almost made the height.

02:44:28.000 I'm 5'11", so it would have made over 5'6", with the turbines fully intact.

02:44:33.000 But the height of it, it was badly damaged.

02:44:37.000 And the rotor shaft, the turbine blades were all broken off of it, and the rotor shaft was bent.

02:44:43.000 Well, I believe a Global Hawk turbine isn't five feet.

02:44:48.000 Well, I'm sure, I'm guessing that the turbine, face turbine of the suction, where the air goes in the first fan, the fan jet, you know, the first fan that you encounter, I would think it would be between four and a half and five feet in diameter, but the blades are all broken off.

02:45:05.000 So I only had like three feet to deal with.

02:45:08.000 So I'm, as I'm looking, I have about a three foot damaged turbine blade, okay, with a bent

02:45:17.000 Shaft and the engine was really it was really damaged very badly and I couldn't tell if it was a dent in the wall on the right hand side if you look up you'll see this dent like something really pounded it it's the only thing heavy enough in that thing unless it was an explosive that struck this wall and in this I you know I didn't see this happen the engine hit it and then bounced off but it kind of like made It made sense to me.

02:45:43.000 It could have possibly been engine impact and that's what really tore this engine up.

02:45:47.000 Because this pentagon was really very thick walls.

02:45:51.000 Just very thick.

02:45:52.000 This thing, there's no way it could have made it through all those sections.

02:45:56.000 They had them in either put dirt or planned ahead or I don't know.

02:46:01.000 And nothing made any sense.

02:46:03.000 And the more things didn't make sense, the more nervous I got.

02:46:06.000 Because when I finally gave up my mission, and I quit asking questions about bodies, seats, stuff like that, because people were getting squirmy, and even the Pentagon employees, I could tell somebody was in the know about something, and then the majority of them, which were regular men and women like myself, they were weeping, they were crying, you know, and there were people obviously were killed that they knew were in these places, kept calling out different names and stuff, but when I got back to my car,

02:46:36.000 I got my binoculars out and then when I looked back down at the scene, which it wasn't really that far away, I saw a bunch of guys, I say a bunch of guys, well I'm thinking three or four, okay?

02:46:48.000 Binocular, people with binoculars looking back at me.

02:46:51.000 So this really, this made me even more upset.

02:46:56.000 Sam, why did you decide to wait so many years before you went public?

02:47:01.000 Well, because it was so obvious to me that the thing,

02:47:06.000 Was was fake that I thought for sure I with all those people there's somebody was the bound to come forth and I thought and my children were small and I didn't want to go through the hassle of being harassed by the federal government or whatever God help whatever else might have happened to me or my life being you know I'm getting out on this and I had children and but I tell you I told those children have grown now and and are on their way into college, and the last one just turned 18.

02:47:36.000 When I saw those five clips, those five stationary pictures come out in April, that's what kicked it off.

02:47:43.000 I thought I've waited long enough.

02:47:45.000 I've been down there.

02:47:47.000 My whole family knew I was down there.

02:47:48.000 My confidants, my friends knew I was down there.

02:47:51.000 And we would talk about and talk about it.

02:47:54.000 You talked about loose change second edition.

02:47:56.000 How did that affect you?

02:47:57.000 Well, my son, he just, you want to watch this thing, and I'm not into conspiracy theories, but boy, I never thought I would have anything shake me up like that thing did.

02:48:08.000 And then when I saw it, it made, it made, It made perfect sense from a geometry point of view, from working with structural engineering.

02:48:18.000 Sam, stay there.

02:48:18.000 Final segment.

02:48:19.000 I thought we'd have time for calls.

02:48:20.000 We don't.

02:48:22.000 I want to do this last five minutes with you.

02:48:23.000 I apologize to the callers.

02:48:25.000 I miscalculated so we don't have time for calls.

02:48:28.000 I apologize everybody, but you stay there Sam.

02:48:30.000 Last five minutes we'll talk about many other key areas that you haven't had a chance to get into and talk about where things go from here.

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02:51:40.000 Well, Sam Danner's story fits in with others. Sam Danner's story fits in with others.

02:51:59.000 Thank you.

02:52:00.000 They were there and said they saw a small airplane, some type of drone, a missile.

02:52:06.000 And of course, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld has slipped up and said that when the missile hit the Pentagon, he's also slipped up twice and said when we shot down Flight 93 over Shanksville.

02:52:22.000 So they can't get their stories straight.

02:52:25.000 But finally, Mr. Danner has decided to go public just because of what he witnessed that day, and he's been worried about his family.

02:52:32.000 You've heard his answer.

02:52:33.000 It makes a lot of sense.

02:52:34.000 We understand that.

02:52:35.000 A lot of us that have fought the New World Order have had to go through this.

02:52:38.000 Sam, now in hindsight, Looking at everything else that's happening in the world, how has this changed your political view, your political paradigm, knowing that, from your own eyewitness account, that the official story is a fraud?

02:52:57.000 I'm heartbroken.

02:53:01.000 As I used that Superman analogy when I first started this interview, I have been naive all these years.

02:53:08.000 I knew our government, You know, with doing crooked stuff, or I don't know if that's an appropriate term or not, but that's what it amounts to.

02:53:19.000 And I knew, you know, we weren't always so sweet and congenial towards countries, and I knew, I just knew there was a lot, but I wanted to overlook all that, because we were the great United States of America.

02:53:34.000 When this thing took place, I didn't want to believe it.

02:53:38.000 I don't even want to believe it now that all those thousands that were killed were purposely taken out for some other greater agenda that you may obviously know more about than I do and often learn more and more.

02:53:51.000 But this total disillusionment with our federal government, with our country, I don't know.

02:53:56.000 Some people would say if this was Vietnam, you know, love it or leave it.

02:54:01.000 There's nowhere else to go.

02:54:03.000 I mean, we've got to take back America. 0.98

02:54:05.000 Well, I agree, and it makes it even more suspicious that they grabbed 80-plus surveillance cameras and then only give us these little foggy images that raise more questions than they answer.

02:54:15.000 They give us these little grainy images that look like they were taken by one tin-sized camera film from years ago.

02:54:22.000 I mean, nothing's clear-looking.

02:54:26.000 What's his name?

02:54:28.000 Dylan Avery pointed out that Bin Laden thing.

02:54:31.000 I mean, he's right.

02:54:33.000 That official thing with Bin Laden on it, it doesn't look like Bin Laden.

02:54:37.000 Well, that's admitted to be a fraud.

02:54:40.000 And we look at all this Hollywood stuff, those explosions at the Pentagon, it looked like they were computer enhanced.

02:54:47.000 Now, this is my opinion, and I share this with one of your peers.

02:54:50.000 I said, uh, they looked like they were graphically, purely graphic enhanced.

02:54:55.000 They just didn't, they didn't look like... You're saying what you saw on the parking lot cameras didn't look like what you saw?

02:55:00.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying exactly.

02:55:02.000 Those parking lot cameras, that's what made me the angriest.

02:55:05.000 When I saw that, I said, it's time, it's time to speak up.

02:55:08.000 Well, Sam, I know that you're working full-time right now.

02:55:12.000 It's very hard for you to take off and do the show.

02:55:14.000 I know that You're also just completed some cancer therapy, so I know you're a really busy man, but I'd like to have you back up to cover some of the other facets of this.

02:55:24.000 Well, I like to come out, or whatever.

02:55:26.000 I'm not really familiar a whole lot with you, so somebody ought to tell me about your whole setup there, but I would like to come out and speak about this.

02:55:35.000 Well, we'd like to have you back on in the near future so we can also have time to take some calls.

02:55:40.000 Very interesting story, Sam, and I believe that you saw what you saw.

02:55:45.000 You sound credible, and I really appreciate you spending time with us, Mr. Danner.

02:55:49.000 Thank you, sir.

02:55:50.000 God bless you.

02:55:51.000 We'll talk to you again real soon.

02:55:52.000 May the Lord be with you also.

02:55:54.000 Thank you.

02:55:55.000 We need to pray for Mr. Danner and his family.

02:55:57.000 Please pray for us as well.

02:55:58.000 Please visit InfoWars.com as well.

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02:56:16.000 So again, InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:56:19.000 I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:20.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:22.000 God bless you all.

Alex Jones Show - July 19, 2006

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