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00:00:22.000 I've decided to go directly to calls in the second segment of this broadcast coming up in eight minutes.

00:00:36.000 Yes.

00:00:38.000 Israel has announced they're going to go further into Lebanon as we predicted they would do. 0.89

00:00:43.000 The talk of a ceasefire, the talk of a cessation of hostilities was a fraud from the beginning.

00:00:49.000 They clearly want to bring Syria into the mix and now the Syrian leader is telling his military to mobilize.

00:00:57.000 They think Israel may be planning to attack Syria.

00:01:01.000 Of course you know that the 79-year-old Fidel Castro has taken a turn for the worse. 0.97

00:01:06.000 The thug dictator and his brother. 0.97

00:01:10.000 How classic. 0.99

00:01:12.000 Look at North Korea where the father gives his son power. 0.69

00:01:14.000 Look at Cuba where it's a family running things.

00:01:18.000 Fidel Castro has taken a turn for the worst.

00:01:22.000 has transferred power to his brother.

00:01:25.000 He's pretty tough, though.

00:01:26.000 He may rebound, but the way Cuban government's acting, it's probably even worse than what we're hearing, and they're admitting that it's extremely, extremely serious.

00:01:34.000 So we'll be getting into that report as well.

00:01:38.000 Coming up in the second hour, we're scheduled.

00:01:40.000 I interviewed him Sunday on my KLBJ program here in Central Texas.

00:01:47.000 Former Texas Ranger, retired Texas Ranger Ray Martinez, who was in Austin, Police officer 40 years ago today when Charles Whitman went up on the tower And killed 14 people.

00:02:01.000 Of course, he killed his wife and mother.

00:02:03.000 So 16 total and wounded 33.

00:02:06.000 And Ray Martinez, an Austin police officer, was the main individual to get the first shots in and the final shots in to the crazed sniper.

00:02:16.000 So I thought, why not have him in studio?

00:02:18.000 So he's downtown in some ceremonies with the city right now.

00:02:22.000 He's scheduled to be joining us coming up later in the broadcast today.

00:02:25.000 We probably won't have him in studio long, probably 30, 45 minutes or so because there's so much other news swirling around, but it's always interesting to mix something different into the mix.

00:02:34.000 And on my show Sunday, he commended The people of Austin who got out their deer rifles with scopes and with open sights and kept Charles Whitman pinned down so that he couldn't continue killing.

00:02:48.000 In the first few minutes he killed most of the 14 people because he was able to get beads and the police were badly coordinated and didn't really know what to do.

00:02:56.000 And it was citizens, literally dozens and dozens of them, no one knows the exact numbers, but many, many cars, pickup trucks, people on the hoods of their cars shooting at Whitman.

00:03:08.000 So another example of the population defending themselves, and of course, another citizen, or as the police call us, civilian, went up into the tower with Officer Ray Martinez and helped pump a few of the shots into Mr. Whitman.

00:03:25.000 So that is coming up in the second hour.

00:03:29.000 But I do want to give everybody a chance to respond to either what's happening in Cuba right now, where you think this is going, tell you about some of the things the White House is saying and planning.

00:03:38.000 But the really big news is Israel plans deeper push into Lebanon. 0.74

00:03:43.000 This is out of the Associated Press from Jerusalem.

00:03:47.000 In a major expansion of its ground offensive, Israel has decided to send troops deeper into Lebanon to clear out Hezbollah fighters and secure the territory until a multinational force is deployed there, senior officials said Tuesday.

00:04:00.000 But there is no plan for a multi-quote national UN force.

00:04:04.000 Israel hopes to complete the new push to the major river nearly 20 miles from the Israeli border in the next two weeks cabinet minister said following a late Monday meeting so when they claimed last week they were going to back off for a while and not go any further

00:04:22.000 I predicted, it wasn't hard to predict, that they were just simply calling up more reserve troops because Olmert had said they only needed 15,000 ground troops and 10,000 support troops and the military had said they needed 30,000 more and now they called up that exact number and have been mobilizing them for the last week for the big push coming up in the next week.

00:04:41.000 The meeting came amid a 48-hour Suspension of most airstrikes by Israel, which was imposed after an airstrike over the weekend in the southern Lebanese town, killing 56 Lebanese.

00:04:52.000 Now it's over 60, I would add.

00:04:54.000 Over half of them children.

00:04:55.000 We'll come back, get more into this, and take your calls at 800-259-9231.

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00:08:12.000 Israeli generals, when the attacks started on southern Lebanon three weeks ago, told the Israeli leader, Olmert, the told the Israeli leader, Olmert, the That they needed 30,000 additional troops than he was giving them.

00:08:34.000 Then late last week they announced they were going to slow down their invasion and basically stop it.

00:08:38.000 They were just securing the first 10 miles of Lebanon. 0.60

00:08:42.000 And then at the same time they called up an additional 30,000 troops and began massing armored vehicles, tanks, and aircraft and calling in the National Reserves.

00:08:52.000 And it wasn't hard to predict that this was simply a lie they were telling the world.

00:08:56.000 They were backing off.

00:08:58.000 They were just gearing up for a much larger movement into Lebanon.

00:09:04.000 And official Israeli war plans written up in the last year openly discuss taking over the entire country and occupying Beirut as they've done in the past.

00:09:15.000 Of course, Bush told Iran, gave them an ultimatum just about a month and a half ago, that by late July they didn't go along with the program of shutting down their peaceful nuclear energy system, that they would be confronted, that they would be confronted, that they would face airstrikes, that they would face some type of limited invasion on their western flank up against Iraq.

00:09:42.000 And that indeed is happening right now.

00:09:44.000 All of this is about escalating it.

00:09:46.000 All of this is about creating more tensions in the Middle East. 0.65

00:09:50.000 This has now empowered Hamas and Hezbollah, which is exactly what the New World Order planners want, is continued strife.

00:09:57.000 If there's continued warfare and military attacks on both sides of the Middle East, that gives the establishment a pretext to move greater and greater forces into the region.

00:10:07.000 And now Israel has announced a major expansion of its ground Offensive and they're saying the next week to two weeks they may go all the way into central Lebanon and if they follow past patterns they could go all the way up to the border of Syria and strike Syria as they have done in the past as well.

00:10:28.000 At the very same time we have the leader the dictator of Syria Saying that they need to beef up their military readiness and prepare for military actions against Israel in defense of their country.

00:10:44.000 So everything is really beginning to spiral out of control.

00:10:49.000 And then obviously you know that Fidel Castro was announced yesterday evening as some intestinal crisis.

00:10:57.000 And he's been in worse and worse health over the last few years.

00:11:00.000 A couple years ago, walking off a stage, he fell down and broke several bones.

00:11:04.000 For the first time, he has transferred power to his brother.

00:11:09.000 This is out of the Miami Herald today.

00:11:11.000 After power shift, no word on Castro's condition.

00:11:14.000 After a night of unexpected news on the health of Cuban President Fidel Castro and spontaneous celebration among Cuban exiles in South Florida, Don brought quieter reactions as a question in both Miami's Little Havana and the actual Havana.

00:11:28.000 Would the announcement Monday night that Castro's 79 was temporarily stepping down from his presidential powers because of health concerns truly mean the end of his nearly 47-year reign?

00:11:40.000 I don't think it'll matter because his brother is, what, four years younger than him and in a lot better health, so that looks like many more years of him being in control, even if Castro is in worse shape than we're even being told.

00:11:52.000 Answers were slow in coming.

00:11:54.000 Radio Havana offered no new information or commentary in its 7 a.m.

00:12:00.000 broadcast, merely a rereading of Monday's announcement that the Cuban leader had undergone surgery to correct a sharp intestinal crisis with sustained bleeding.

00:12:13.000 And he's a pretty tough guy, but we don't know.

00:12:16.000 The Cuban government lies incessantly, as most governments do.

00:12:20.000 And so it could be a stroke, it could be a heart attack, we don't know.

00:12:24.000 Or they could be telling the truth, it could be some type of intestinal crisis.

00:12:28.000 In Miami, the news that Castro, who will turn 80 in two weeks, would turn over power, even temporarily, to his brother Raul Castro, 75, had sparked a party atmosphere and immediately speculation that the widely despised Cuban leader was gravely ill or dead.

00:12:48.000 By this morning, though, many in Little Havana had grown more wary in their observations.

00:12:52.000 Spanish-language radio station WQBA, which had been carrying continuous coverage of the power transfer since Monday night, reported things were calm in Havana, Cuba as well.

00:13:04.000 It's still not clear what is happening over there, said Daniel Torres, news director at the station, which he said has five human rights activists working as journalists across the island.

00:13:16.000 So we'll see what happens with that as it continues to develop and then at the same time we have the Bush administration I guess hinting at how they would try to capitalize on this if Castro dies or power is transferred to his brother.

00:13:36.000 The big thing is Raul is not as much a messianic leader in the island communist fortress state As his brother is, and so there's discussions and hopeful machinations going on that it could be easier to overthrow his brother or to have some type of peaceful political change in the island country.

00:14:00.000 Hey, I wish the communists weren't in power there.

00:14:02.000 I wish they were removed.

00:14:03.000 I'd like to go see Cuba sometime.

00:14:05.000 It's pretty close.

00:14:06.000 It's just a, what, four hour flight from Texas, about an hour flight or less.

00:14:11.000 from areas of Florida, and clearly he's tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of people, and is an absolute murdering piece of filth, but again, most governments are throughout history.

00:14:23.000 The U.S.

00:14:25.000 has plans to aid post-Castro Cuba.

00:14:28.000 The Bush administration, which has made no secret of its desire to see the end of Fidel Castro's regime in Cuba, said it had a plan in place to help transition the island nation to democracy after Castro.

00:14:39.000 I speculate that let's say the government fell, or there was some new election, or an upheaval there, that you would see our government move in there, put the elements of the communist government back into place, and basically set up a fascist system, and go back to building casinos there.

00:14:53.000 I mean, before the fall of the Cuban government, back in the late 1950s, 1960, before all of that happened, The place was completely corrupt, secret police, secret arrests, the same stuff you saw under Fidel Castro.

00:15:13.000 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

00:15:15.000 As the who song goes, won't get fooled again.

00:15:18.000 Quote, we can't speculate on Castro's health, but we continue to work for the day of Cuba's freedoms, said White House spokesman Peter Watkins.

00:15:25.000 He also said the U.S.

00:15:26.000 is closely monitoring the situation.

00:15:28.000 If Fidel Castro were to move, On, because of natural causes, we've got a plan in place to help the people of Cuba understand there's a better way than the system in which they've been living under.

00:15:38.000 He told WAQIAM radio, a Spanish language radio station, no one knows when Fidel Castro will move on.

00:15:46.000 In my judgment, that's the work of the Almighty.

00:15:50.000 Oh my goodness.

00:15:51.000 Okay, let's go ahead and go to some of your phone calls right now and get everybody's response to Israel Magically signaling that they may go all the way to Syria.

00:16:05.000 This is World War III in the making, and then meanwhile, Fidel Castro at 79, two-week Shabbos 8th birthday, clearly in critical condition from even the reports by the communist Cuban government.

00:16:18.000 Right now, let's talk to... Who's up first here?

00:16:23.000 Fred in Pennsylvania, you're on the air.

00:16:25.000 Welcome.

00:16:26.000 Hi.

00:16:29.000 Could I shift gears and talk about the military tribunal bill that was just mentioned on Derry Brownfield?

00:16:37.000 Yes.

00:16:37.000 It's a two-page bill.

00:16:39.000 I basically did a little bit of analysis.

00:16:44.000 It seems like the First Amendment is struck down by the Fourth, the Fifth, the Sixth, the Eighth, the ban on ex post facto.

00:16:55.000 Categorization of people?

00:16:57.000 Let me just stop you for just a minute.

00:16:59.000 For those that just joined us, I have a tendency to preach to the choir and use all these technical terms.

00:17:07.000 Under Patriot Act 1 and the expansion, the Semi-Patriot Act 2 passed last year, the government claims it has the power to secretly arrest citizens, try them in secret tribunals, and execute us.

00:17:20.000 And under Section 802 of the First Patriot Act, in force of law right now, All misdemeanors are acts of terrorism or the attempt to conduct a misdemeanor is an act of terrorism.

00:17:32.000 It's the end of our Bill of Rights and now Bush is trying to recodify it in an official piece of legislation.

00:17:39.000 The 30-plus page draft bill has been out now since last Friday and has been in several national publications.

00:17:46.000 We did cover it yesterday and we did cover it over the weekend on my new weekend radio broadcast.

00:17:51.000 You're absolutely right.

00:17:52.000 It is a nightmare piece of legislation, and we are writing an analysis on this new piece of legislation right now that even appears to be worse than some of the provisions in Patriot Act 2.

00:18:04.000 Go ahead.

00:18:05.000 You're very good at writing those analyses, Alex.

00:18:08.000 You had one in Global Outlook for Patriot 2, and it was the best that I've seen on Patriot 2.

00:18:17.000 It really, this piece of legislation guts the primary reason for judiciary because it's given up on saying that we govern ourselves.

00:18:27.000 Yeah, not only is the government saying that they're going to have troops on the streets of America, but now they're saying that they will secretly arrest you, and then in Patriot Act, it says that if you see your neighbor get arrested, or you're a librarian and see somebody get arrested, or a business owner, and you tell anybody about what you saw, you then are charged with terrorism.

00:18:45.000 Yeah, and also it mixes the subject of establishing military, I'm against establishing the military tribunals, but it mixes that subject, which I would be against and I think is illegal, but it mixes that with all these criminal, well, these illegal procedures that wipe out the power of the courts to decide how they handle trials.

00:19:12.000 Well, I'm glad you brought this up because it is a huge story and it's not gotten the attention it deserves and we'll be covering it more this week.

00:19:19.000 Fred, I appreciate your call.

00:19:20.000 When we get back, we'll talk to Mick, Jimmy, Tony, and many others.

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00:23:59.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:24:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:24:13.000 I've got former Texas Ranger Ray Martinez sitting right out there in the green room.

00:24:23.000 Just talking to him during the break.

00:24:24.000 Him and his lovely wife.

00:24:28.000 He's here in Austin for the 40th anniversary of when he killed and took out the crazy sniper up on the UT Tower, Charles Whitman.

00:24:39.000 So that's coming up here in about 30 minutes.

00:24:42.000 Right now, let's go right back to your calls.

00:24:44.000 We're talking about Israel plans deeper push into Lebanon. 0.61

00:24:47.000 May go even into Syria.

00:24:48.000 This is getting very serious.

00:24:50.000 Fidel Castro, of course, is in critical condition in Havana, in Cuba, and we're talking about a bunch of other news items as well.

00:24:58.000 Let's talk to Mike in Idaho.

00:24:59.000 Mike, you're on the air.

00:25:00.000 Welcome.

00:25:01.000 Hey Alex, congratulations on your 9-1-1 Symposium.

00:25:04.000 Getting it re-airing tonight?

00:25:05.000 Is that correct?

00:25:06.000 Yes sir, we need everybody's help to email, to post, to call all their friends and family at around 515 today on C-SPAN 1 and that's Central, 615 Eastern.

00:25:17.000 Now they're having a lot of press conferences and unannounced things today on CNN, on C-SPAN, so they'll probably back it off to 6 or 7 Central, but it'll be airing tonight, but that's how C-SPAN works.

00:25:27.000 Whenever they have other live breaking events, they then push back the programs, but it'll be on this evening.

00:25:34.000 Hey, a question.

00:25:35.000 Would you agree with Joel Scalvin's analysis that Israel's atrocities are actually calculated to incite the violence and thereby suck in the U.S. 0.81

00:25:44.000 military to finally destroy it?

00:25:46.000 Well, yes, I would agree to that to a great extent.

00:25:49.000 I don't know about destroying our military, but it's all about big business.

00:25:53.000 That's why we weren't allowed to win Vietnam, according to Pentagon's own documents, because they wanted it to be a decades plus, which it was, long war, because the weapons manufacturers and their hardware suppliers were making over $100 billion a year in 1960s, early 1970s money. because the weapons manufacturers and their hardware suppliers were making So that was over a trillion and a half dollars in the 15 years of that war, only 10 years of it being a public war.

00:26:22.000 Imagine over a trillion dollars in 1960s money.

00:26:26.000 Well, they've already spent over 400 billion in Iraq.

00:26:29.000 And that's why top generals would go over there and say, we're trying to turn the water on, we're trying to get the power back on, and they were told to basically not do that.

00:26:36.000 And that's why they've removed so many generals.

00:26:38.000 The average head general in Iraq only spends four months over there, because a lot of them are actually trying to do their job, and they've gotten very disillusioned.

00:26:45.000 The plan, according to the Pentagon, is to have controlled chaos, to stay there as long as possible.

00:26:51.000 Well, it's working.

00:26:52.000 The attacks in Baghdad have increased significantly.

00:26:55.000 So much where they're pulling the troops back out of Mosul and sending new troops there and stopping the guys from coming back.

00:27:04.000 Well, this new crisis also serves as a new diversion.

00:27:07.000 Notice we're not talking about how they're actually increasing troop levels from 23,000 up to over 35,000 in Iraq right now, rebuilding the troops.

00:27:17.000 And we're not hearing about all the other things that are going on now.

00:27:20.000 All we're hearing about is Lebanon.

00:27:22.000 More guys are dying, too.

00:27:24.000 That's it.

00:27:24.000 I appreciate your call.

00:27:27.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to Jimmy.

00:27:31.000 Jimmy, where are you calling us from today?

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00:27:34.000 Welcome.

00:27:35.000 Hey, I caught your show on Sunday, and excellent.

00:27:41.000 The guy that told you to make a new tinfoil hat, I get that all the time.

00:27:45.000 But what I wanted to say was, I give away your videos, and I wear your t-shirts everywhere I go, and I get people to come up to me and talk to me and ask me what's going on.

00:27:57.000 There are more and more people out there that are awakening to these facts.

00:28:03.000 You know, the new world order can't hide from us anymore.

00:28:07.000 There was a news article yesterday, I've got it in the stack here, where a news reporter went into a restaurant and decided to tell two tables to tune into C-SPAN tomorrow, which is today now, and both tables said, "Oh, we already know about 9/11 being an inside job." Then he decided to celebrate it, so he went to the liquor store to buy some beer.

00:28:30.000 And he told the guy behind the counter to tune in.

00:28:32.000 And both people behind the counter said, tell us something we don't know.

00:28:36.000 And the headline, I think, is the worm is turning on 9-11.

00:28:42.000 Everybody knows.

00:28:43.000 In fact, that's the headline.

00:28:45.000 And so that's the experience I'm having.

00:28:48.000 Yeah, it's fabulous.

00:28:51.000 Once in a while you get a couple people that laugh at you, but big deal.

00:28:54.000 Some people like to be cheap, you know?

00:28:57.000 But there's more and more people that, once that veil is gone, they see things for what it really is, and they realize that they're not the only one that thinks the same way.

00:29:07.000 Well, I mean, we just had the Assistant Secretary of Defense on, and the former Marine Corps Chief Historian, very conservative, defended Michael Noe.

00:29:16.000 Also, of course, was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff's lawyer, and he came on the broadcast and said 9-11 is a dog that doesn't hunt, the official story is a fraud, and inside job is a good possibility. 0.86

00:29:29.000 When you got people like that going public, I mean, it's pretty obvious, isn't it?

00:29:34.000 Yes, it sure is.

00:29:35.000 And you are the man.

00:29:37.000 Just keep up the good work.

00:29:38.000 And I sent you a picture of the five of us with our Security Response Team t-shirts on.

00:29:44.000 Hopefully it makes it onto your image gallery, but if it doesn't, it's no big deal.

00:29:49.000 Thank you so much for what you're doing, Jim.

00:29:50.000 Keep it up.

00:29:52.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:02.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:33:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:12.000 I was out there with a retired Texas Ranger, Ray Martinez, who killed Charles Whitman, the main, he was the main officer that took him down 40 years ago today here in Austin, just a mile or two from where I sit.

00:33:26.000 And Kevin Smith, who sets up a lot of the guests, asked him to bring a box of some stuff, because we're also videotaping this for the TV show and for PrisonPlanet.TV members.

00:33:36.000 And they're out there in the foyer, out there in the green room.

00:33:39.000 He brought the shirt that day that he was wearing with blood all over it.

00:33:44.000 And so they're out there taking photos of it.

00:33:46.000 And just this weekend, they had an auction here in Austin.

00:33:50.000 I believe for charity.

00:33:51.000 And guess how much one of the bullets that was on Whitman went for?

00:33:56.000 One of the bullets that got the end of it knocked off when one of Martina's or one of the other officer's bullets went into him.

00:34:03.000 Over $200,000.

00:34:04.000 Can you imagine?

00:34:05.000 And Mr. Martini's didn't even know about that.

00:34:06.000 He just heard about it.

00:34:07.000 Imagine how much that blood-stained Austin Police shirt is worth.

00:34:13.000 By the way, I like that Austin Police shirt.

00:34:15.000 It looks a lot better than what they wear now.

00:34:17.000 It's like gray and got black The black loops up at the top on the shoulders, whatever those are called. 0.68

00:34:24.000 A lot sharper than the ridiculous blue and black outfits they prance around in today that also bake you in the sun.

00:34:32.000 But it's high authority, so we've got to wear it. 0.71

00:34:35.000 All right, side issue, we've got World War III brewing in the Middle East.

00:34:38.000 Israel's sending them all the way up to Syria.

00:34:39.000 They're sending them further into Lebanon. 0.97

00:34:41.000 Their real plan, obviously, is to push us into World War III. 0.82

00:34:44.000 We've got Castro has collapsed in critical condition.

00:34:49.000 in the capital of Cuba right now and there's all this other police state news but we're going to go back to your calls Tony and Yusuf and JP and everybody else that's patiently holding right now.

00:35:01.000 Before I go any further I'm going to be showing my new film Terror Storm, the most powerful film I ever made about the history of government sponsored terrorism It also gets into the latest developments on 9-11.

00:35:15.000 We travel to London and cover the 7-7 bombing.

00:35:17.000 That's Professor Stephen Jones.

00:35:18.000 It has Morgan Reynolds, the Chief Economist for Bush's last administration, exposing it as an inside job.

00:35:24.000 Two MI5 agents getting into 7-7 and 9-11 being inside jobs.

00:35:28.000 They just spell it out.

00:35:30.000 Ray McGovern, Chief CIA Analyst for Ronald Reagan and George Bush, senior going public.

00:35:36.000 And of course, we have Charlie Sheen in it.

00:35:38.000 It's such an important film, you can get hard copies of that right now at InfoWars.com via the Safe, Secure Online Video and Bookstore Shopping Cart, or by calling toll free 1-888-253-3139.

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00:36:03.000 I think 18 are up there now.

00:36:05.000 There's one more interview, one more presentation we're putting up to our police right now.

00:36:09.000 We may even put some of the questions and answers up later to put the whole thing up.

00:36:12.000 But to make a long story short, we're going to be showing Terror Storm in Dallas on the 26th of August.

00:36:22.000 And the way this is going, it looks like the tickets may be gone in a week unless it slows down.

00:36:28.000 Okay, I mean the tickets are almost half gone right now.

00:36:33.000 There was an explosion over Friday and the weekend and now it's slowed down a bit, but they're going fast and people every time don't listen to me and every event sells out.

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00:38:39.000 Let's go ahead and go to Tony in Toronto, Canada.

00:38:42.000 Tony, thanks for holding.

00:38:44.000 Hey Alex, how are you doing?

00:38:45.000 Good sir.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, it looks like all hell is breaking loose out here in this world right now.

00:38:49.000 The globalists need to.

00:38:50.000 It's a Ponzi scheme.

00:38:51.000 They've always got to keep expanding the crises to cover up the last crime they were involved in.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, well they just seem to be exponential right now.

00:39:00.000 I know you like to stick to the meat and potatoes of the issues, and I really like that about you, but I can't underscore the importance of the religious aspect, the mythology of the Israelites, and how this plays into it.

00:39:14.000 I mean, we've got a committee hearing right now with our foreign policy, Going on in Ottawa right now, and I think it's really tough for people because they feel compelled because of our supposedly common religious heritage, you know, the sort of Judeo-Christian thing.

00:39:30.000 People feel that they have to side with Israel, you know, and that's what I think makes this so much more dangerous and so much more different than a lot of the other conflicts that we've had in the past. 0.88

00:39:45.000 It is not biblical to go along with whatever an Israeli leader does and to mindlessly follow everything that Israel says that we should do.

00:39:59.000 I mean, that's really simple.

00:40:00.000 The Bible says that the Antichrist will rule from Jerusalem, and will say that he is Christ, and that it will be the religion to follow what he says. 0.85

00:40:09.000 He will be a counterfeit, or Antichrist, and I see it being set up for that now. 0.99

00:40:14.000 If a leader, I ask Christians this, especially the phony neocon version of evangelicals, that I've always seen myself allied to, true evangelicals, I mean, I'm a Christian, And I was brought up Baptist slash evangelical, so most of my friends are that way, but they see what's happening.

00:40:32.000 And I asked them, if a leader now rose in Israel and brought peace and was this great world leader, you would be told that you've got to follow everything Israel says.

00:40:42.000 And the Israel lobby manipulates a lot of our politics and policies through AIPAC and coddles the Christian leaders and pays them off and flies them around on private jets and gives them huge endowments. 0.63

00:40:51.000 You would then be told by your preachers to follow that leader, would you not?

00:40:55.000 And the answer is yes.

00:40:56.000 So we're already positioned to see Antichrist being worshipped openly.

00:41:02.000 And so, look at how the churches were deceived.

00:41:04.000 We know the devil is slick, and here it is in plain view, now being set up and happening, and these churches just can't figure it out because their leaders are bought and paid for, and they've been given false doctrines. 0.99

00:41:14.000 So, people all the time blame Christians, you know, for George Bush, and they blame Christians, and you Christians, and Bush is a crazy Christian. 0.98

00:41:21.000 You know, that's why I resent when people say, you know, all Jews are evil or bad or doing things. 0.98

00:41:26.000 No, it's the leadership. 0.92

00:41:28.000 Just like people say, well, look at the Jews. 0.95

00:41:29.000 Well, no, that's the Israeli leadership that is bad. 0.86

00:41:32.000 You know, it's the same thing with Christians. 0.99

00:41:35.000 Just because Bush says he's a Christian and has Christian interest at heart, look at the fruits.

00:41:40.000 He's really doing the opposite. 0.97

00:41:42.000 I think, you know, they're all guilty, Muslims included. 1.00

00:41:45.000 You know, there's fanatics and fundamentalists. 1.00

00:41:47.000 I mean, the Muslims have got some really bad sex and some really bad leaders. 1.00

00:41:47.000 Oh, I agree. 1.00

00:41:51.000 And what does this Israeli aggression do?

00:41:53.000 It empowers those groups, which Israeli documents say and state is what they want.

00:41:58.000 They want continued crises.

00:42:00.000 A lot of the Christians in Lebanon, I have a friend who's actually, his father was born there.

00:42:04.000 They're Maronite Christians.

00:42:05.000 They're really opposed to the to the Hezbollah, and they see, you know, there's actually some racism there on their part, and they see them as simpletons and so on.

00:42:13.000 Well, before, three weeks ago, the majority of, in polls in Lebanon, of the Muslims were against Hezbollah.

00:42:20.000 Not anymore.

00:42:20.000 Eighty-plus percent support.

00:42:22.000 Well, it's really disturbing, because now even supposedly moderate and pro-U.S.

00:42:27.000 nations like Jordan and Egypt and And so on, are actually starting to lose their patience.

00:42:34.000 Yes.

00:42:34.000 Even Christians in Lebanon are now supporting Hezbollah.

00:42:37.000 That's right. 0.96

00:42:38.000 I mean, you get people's heads blown off in front of you.

00:42:42.000 You quickly change your tune about this sort of stuff.

00:42:46.000 And they have no other option than to go with Hezbollah. 0.96

00:42:49.000 They've been forced into an impossible position.

00:42:53.000 You know, they're just going to get slaughtered.

00:42:55.000 They know the world community is not coming to their aid.

00:42:58.000 And it just breaks my heart to... Well, if you look at what Israel's doing, and I appreciate your call, first they bomb with airstrikes, then they move troops and artillery in, and they blast grids in front of them, wedges, they then move the artillery forward and then start bombarding the next grid. 0.59

00:43:14.000 They are moving straight for Beirut, and now Syria's on alert and saying, get ready for military action.

00:43:20.000 Here's the escalation, and it's admitted that the Israeli troops, mainstream news, but back of the paper, And then on the nightly news, the talking heads say that they came across and grabbed the Israelis.

00:43:31.000 That is not true.

00:43:32.000 It is admitted that the Israeli government sent them over and that they even had them on infrared scopes, the Israeli commanders, and when the Israeli troops wanted to kill the Hezbollah that was coming to grab them, they said no and let them capture.

00:43:45.000 So they sent the troops in to get them captured, and by the time they're done spinning it in our media, the general public doesn't even know that.

00:43:52.000 So, and obviously Hezbollah is a big part of this too.

00:43:55.000 It takes two to tango.

00:43:56.000 they're not releasing those soldiers.

00:43:59.000 They could really take away from Israel what Israel wants to have this war if they just release them. 0.67

00:44:04.000 Now their argument is they've got thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese, so why not release some of them first? 1.00

00:44:10.000 But that just isn't going to happen.

00:44:12.000 I appreciate your call.

00:44:13.000 Yusuf in Mass, you're on the air.

00:44:15.000 Go ahead.

00:44:15.000 Hi, can you hear me?

00:44:17.000 Yes, I can.

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00:45:52.000 I've gotten criticism from other people that want to keep hawking their snake oil that I should shut up and not sit there and say that if you don't hear me endorsing something that means I don't endorse it.

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00:46:44.000 in Tennessee.

00:46:45.000 J.P., you're on the air.

00:46:46.000 Welcome.

00:46:47.000 Alex Jones, I want to thank you for having me on your show.

00:46:49.000 God bless you, Alex.

00:46:50.000 I don't know where we would be without you, sir.

00:46:53.000 Well, thank you.

00:46:54.000 I appreciate it.

00:46:54.000 Listen, I'm just doing my duty, just like you're doing.

00:46:57.000 You guys are all doing the same thing I'm doing.

00:46:59.000 Please.

00:47:00.000 I've been trying to get in ever since last week when you were talking about JFK.

00:47:03.000 I've got to say, since I was 11 years old, JFK has been my favorite movie.

00:47:07.000 When I was little, I wasn't scared of the Boogeyman or Freddy Krueger or anything like that.

00:47:11.000 I was scared of guys in suits busting in and getting me because I knew too much.

00:47:15.000 That was honest.

00:47:16.000 But it wasn't until a year ago I actually started listening to you, Alex.

00:47:20.000 And my question to you is, which also involves my favorite line out of the JFK movie, Let justice be done or the heavens fall.

00:47:27.000 Do you actually think that at any time, if we do win this war on the New World Order, which you always said they've already lost, Do you think justice will ever be done in the murder of JFK or justice will ever be done for the people who did 9-11 and perpetrated this heinous attack on us?

00:47:41.000 Well, most of the individuals that orchestrated the murder of JFK have been dead for decades.

00:47:46.000 Though we know George Bush Sr.

00:47:48.000 was a CIA operative and was photographed by major newspapers there on the scene that morning.

00:47:55.000 Well, that's actually who I met, Mr. George Sr.

00:47:58.000 Well, you know what, I don't know if justice will ever be done, but we can expose them to where they cannot continue to carry out more assassinations and more terror attacks, and we may get them on something smaller, like buying fake news or no-bid contracts and payoffs.

00:48:14.000 It's like getting Al Capone on tax evasion instead of the St.

00:48:17.000 Valentine's Day Massacre.

00:48:19.000 I hear you, Alex.

00:48:20.000 Once again, thank you.

00:48:21.000 God bless you, Alex Jones, and down with the New World Order!

00:48:25.000 Well, thank you.

00:48:25.000 I really appreciate that.

00:48:27.000 Let's take another call here.

00:48:29.000 Who's up next?

00:48:31.000 Cliff in Idaho.

00:48:32.000 You're on the air, Cliff.

00:48:33.000 How are you doing there, Alex?

00:48:34.000 Good, sir.

00:48:35.000 Now, I talked to Congressman Simpson and also Senator Mike Crapel this morning.

00:48:40.000 They appeared on Probing America at 1260 a.m.

00:48:42.000 here in Idaho.

00:48:44.000 And Congressman Simpson, boy, he knows what's going on, but he's backtracking where I can't go.

00:48:51.000 You know, he said he was over in England and he'd seen some people, you know, they were saying it was an inside job and all this kind of stuff, and they, their reputation's real bad, so I said, well, you know, I'll tell you what, a lot of these people have appeared at this symposium in L.A., you know, like Dr. Stephen Jones, and, uh, you know, the rest of them, all important people like, uh, William Rodriguez, Ray McGovern, I said, these people have a more prestige reputation than you or I will ever have, and he didn't have no comment on that.

00:49:19.000 See, notice how they try to guilt buy association.

00:49:21.000 They try to pick some imaginary group out of another country and claim that they're not credible, so we're not supposed to investigate 9-11.

00:49:29.000 That's correct.

00:49:30.000 And also, Mr. Simpson's the one to vote for his own race, you know, heck with the race in the minimum wage.

00:49:36.000 Did you get a plug-in for the C-SPAN rebroadcast, fine and hardcast?

00:49:39.000 I did with both people.

00:49:41.000 I put it on, and when I talked to Senator Mike Crapo, you know, he knew nothing about it.

00:49:48.000 He said he's going to try to watch it or whatever.

00:49:50.000 Well, that C-SPAN, I guess you're Mountain out there, so that would be 4 o'clock your time?

00:49:57.000 Yes.

00:49:58.000 So at 4.15 Mountain, 5.15 Central, 6.15 Eastern, 3.15 Pacific is when it's scheduled, but they are having some emergency UN and U.S. programs.

00:50:12.000 press conferences, so I would look forward to air about an hour or two late.

00:50:16.000 Anywhere between 5-15 and 7-15 is when you'll probably see it, the final airing they're saying on C-SPAN-1 today.

00:50:25.000 That's right, and I have flyers out exactly to that effect saying be sure and check, and It's called American, you know, Perspective.

00:50:34.000 And, uh, you know, not to be checking, making sure what time they're going because they're having problems.

00:50:40.000 All right.

00:50:41.000 Thank you so much.

00:50:42.000 I really do appreciate your call.

00:50:44.000 We'll come back and talk to Dan and others.

00:50:47.000 And then we're going to have a retired Texas Ranger, Austin police officer at the time, 40 years ago today, when he killed Charles Whitman on the tower.

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00:54:19.000 We're back live, ladies and gentlemen.

00:54:21.000 We're getting Ranger Ray Martinez squared away with his lovely bride here with us.

00:54:27.000 And he'll be joining us in the next hour to go back 40 years and talk about the tower shooting.

00:54:31.000 And then we'll get back into Israel, saying they're going to expand the war. 0.78

00:54:35.000 Israel plans deeper push into Lebanon. 0.83

00:54:36.000 We'll get into Fidel Castro, hopefully about to die.

00:54:40.000 But before we go any further, let's go back to your calls.

00:54:44.000 Let's talk to... I got these out of order here.

00:54:49.000 Dan in New York.

00:54:51.000 You're on the air, Dan.

00:54:51.000 Go ahead.

00:54:53.000 Hey, Alex.

00:54:53.000 How you doing?

00:54:54.000 Good, sir.

00:54:55.000 Um, I just had to let you know this.

00:54:57.000 I've been handing out your DVDs and videos as much as I can, and I gave them to one of my employees, who in turn gave it to his friend, and his friend owns a barbershop and has been playing them in the barbershop throughout the day.

00:55:13.000 He's telling me it's hysterical.

00:55:15.000 He's telling me You know, I got guys getting haircuts and then sitting back down watching these videos.

00:55:21.000 You know, honestly, I can't make them fast enough, you know, burn copies, and I try to give out your order forms as well, just to help support you.

00:55:28.000 Well, see, everybody, you know, keeps talking about the great job I'm doing.

00:55:31.000 I'm not.

00:55:31.000 I make the documentary films, and it's you guys and gals out there that are getting them, making copies, getting them out to people, and that's how we're exposing all the things that are happening.

00:55:41.000 You know, the loss of freedoms, the American Union, they're shutting up, You know, all the things that this government's doing.

00:55:48.000 Getting rid of our borders. 0.80

00:55:50.000 All of it.

00:55:50.000 We're going to be able to expose that because the American people are becoming aware of what's going on.

00:55:55.000 Both political parties have been bought off by the very same corporate interests that don't have the United States of America in their plans.

00:56:03.000 Exactly.

00:56:04.000 And this weekend I went to see Freedom to Fascism as well, the Aaron Rooster documentary.

00:56:08.000 It's excellent, isn't it?

00:56:10.000 Oh, what a great job.

00:56:11.000 And I think it's so important that he did this because Even though we know a lot of the stuff we talk about is the truth, people like to call us conspiracy nuts.

00:56:20.000 But his documentary is just basic facts.

00:56:23.000 You know, like nothing that you can argue against what he wrote about and what he made the video about, you know, you can argue.

00:56:30.000 Well I agree with you and I appreciate your call.

00:56:33.000 Take care my friend.

00:56:34.000 Let's talk to Kenneth in Louisiana.

00:56:35.000 Kenneth, you're on the air.

00:56:36.000 Go ahead sir.

00:56:38.000 Yes, thank you Alex.

00:56:39.000 I find that George W. Bush, he's kind of like Arthur Fiedler, though he's not a conductor of music, he's a conductor of war.

00:56:47.000 I think we ought to give him a nickname and call him Green Light George.

00:56:52.000 Anyway, it wasn't that funny.

00:56:55.000 But anyway, James chapter 5, God doesn't condemn the downtrodden, poor class, or the rock-thrown people of maybe the Middle East, but he condemns the super-rich.

00:57:07.000 And as James chapter 5, that, you know, God has a problem with the super-rich who get rich off of wars because war is a rich man's terrorism.

00:57:16.000 Well, we do have these really cold-blooded corporations that are not free market that really operate as mafia organizations.

00:57:24.000 And throughout history, we see these cycles where societies get very, very corrupt.

00:57:28.000 And right now, from studying history, I believe the U.S.

00:57:31.000 is at the most corrupt point it's ever been.

00:57:34.000 Corruption is just rampant everywhere, and very few of these bigwigs are getting prosecuted.

00:57:40.000 I mean, they went after Martha Stewart for something that's the equivalent of dirty fingernails, while leaving alone hundreds of CEOs that were involved in things hundreds and hundreds of times worse, publicly. 0.99

00:57:54.000 Of all the three major religions, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, who do you think is intellectually the most stupidest? 0.99

00:58:04.000 Like, you know, not knowing what's going on. 1.00

00:58:09.000 I would have to say Christians.

00:58:11.000 Yeah, I have to agree with you.

00:58:13.000 They need to wake up.

00:58:14.000 Well, I mean, as a Christian, it's just sad to see how the church is asleep in this country, but that's because of the 501c3 that started 50-something years ago.

00:58:22.000 The Feds have come in and told preachers what they can and can't say when the First Amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

00:58:32.000 All right, we'll be right back with the second hour with Ranger Ray Martinez on the 40-year anniversary of the UT Sniper.

00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

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00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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01:00:02.000 Well, I really can't do justice to the bio of this individual, but he's from right here in Texas.

01:00:09.000 He's Ray Martinez.

01:00:10.000 He was an Austin police officer.

01:00:13.000 And on the day 40 years ago today, here in Austin, Texas, when Charles Whitman, the A former Marine sniper climbed up and started blasting indiscriminately, killing 14 people, injuring 33, and of course killed two others, his mother and wife, before that.

01:00:29.000 And Ray Martinez led the charge up there and fired the first shots and the final shot, taking out Mr. Whitman.

01:00:36.000 And this is a story of courage.

01:00:38.000 It's a story of also the citizens taking action and supporting the police and taking this individual down.

01:00:44.000 So we're honored to have him in studio with us today.

01:00:48.000 A very busy day here in Austin, speaking to different groups and being honored by the city.

01:00:53.000 And Ranger Ray, thank you for coming into the studio with us.

01:00:55.000 Well, it's my pleasure.

01:00:57.000 You bet.

01:00:58.000 We've just got a few minutes before we break, but just tell us a little bit about yourself before we then come back and get into what happened 40 years ago here in Austin, Texas.

01:01:07.000 Well, all I can say is that I'm from a little town of Rotan, Texas, in West Texas, and I came to Austin in 1956 to attend the University of Texas.

01:01:17.000 Of course, my career as a student took a downturn, joined the Army, and I returned back to Austin.

01:01:24.000 And then from there, of course, I went job hunting, and I ended up in the Austin Police Department.

01:01:30.000 And, of course, so to speak, the rest is history.

01:01:37.000 What is it like to be back in Austin 40 years after, getting pretty close to the time all this happened?

01:01:45.000 Well, I just love Austin because it's always been a part of me and I'm always happy to come back to Austin because I still have family here.

01:01:54.000 And of course today is the 40th and right now with this time 40 years ago I was at home preparing something to eat when I saw the news bulletin come out about the incident that was occurring at the University of Texas.

01:02:09.000 What time did the shooting start?

01:02:11.000 Right around this time.

01:02:12.000 Well, it was going on right now because I understand it started about four minutes, four or five minutes before twelve.

01:02:19.000 And I didn't get to hear it until a little after twelve.

01:02:23.000 So we are literally at the very fortieth anniversary, right at the minute this stuff was kicking off, right now.

01:02:30.000 That is correct.

01:02:30.000 Right now I was at home.

01:02:32.000 I saw you looking at your watch and I was looking at my notes and I was going, wow, it started right now and here you are in studio forty years later talking about it.

01:02:39.000 That's correct.

01:02:40.000 That's amazing.

01:02:42.000 So you're at home, you're fixing something to eat.

01:02:45.000 Go ahead and start the story and then we're going to break in just a moment.

01:02:49.000 I'm a creature of habit, and of course I listen to the news every time at high noon, because I was on the 3 to 11 shift.

01:02:57.000 I was not supposed to go to work until 3 that afternoon.

01:03:00.000 So I was preparing my uniform, because I always like to polish my boots, my brass, my everything.

01:03:06.000 I wanted to look very professional.

01:03:08.000 And I turned the television on to listen to the news, and I saw a note being handed to Joe Roddy, who was the anchor at the time.

01:03:15.000 And he advised the public that there was a person, I don't remember if he said a sniper, but he said somebody, a man or a person on the top of the University of Texas tower shooting at people and there had been a number of people already injured and possibly some dead.

01:03:34.000 After that, of course, I watched a little longer, and he was handing another note, and of course, from what I heard, the situation was getting worse.

01:03:43.000 There were some dead people already. 0.98

01:03:45.000 Alright, we're going to break, and when we come back, we will continue with the story, with the eyewitness, with the guy that took out the scumbag.

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01:06:59.000 Right now, 40 years ago, in downtown Austin, in the university 40 years ago, in downtown Austin, in the university area,

01:07:19.000 The famous tower shooting was taking place and Ray Martinez was just now seeing the second bulletin on the news about someone on the tower shooting and of course many Austinites have heard the famous Neal Spells report coming in about there's a sniper on the tower.

01:07:35.000 So you weren't scheduled to go into work for about two and a half hours at this point.

01:07:39.000 You get the second bulletin, Ray.

01:07:41.000 You're there, I guess, getting your uniform on right at that time.

01:07:44.000 What did you do next?

01:07:45.000 Well, I didn't get my uniform on, but I felt that they might need some assistance, so I got on the telephone and called the police station.

01:07:55.000 The PBX operator hooked me up to Lt.

01:07:58.000 Thomas.

01:08:00.000 I asked Lt.

01:08:00.000 Thomas if he needed some assistance, and he said, yes, we need assistance.

01:08:05.000 I said, where do you want me to report, police station or the university area?

01:08:10.000 Go to the University area, find an intersection, and work traffic and divert it away from the campus.

01:08:15.000 Where did you live at the time?

01:08:17.000 I lived in South Austin on Margaret Street, which is close to Barton Springs.

01:08:22.000 All right, so right over kind of in this area then.

01:08:24.000 That's correct.

01:08:25.000 So you, I would guess, got over there pretty quick then, were you burning rubber?

01:08:28.000 No, no, no, no.

01:08:30.000 I had a little 54 Chevrolet I got dressed and I took off.

01:08:33.000 Of course, I obeyed the traffic laws because I wasn't Speeding, per se.

01:08:40.000 I mean, red lights and what have you.

01:08:43.000 If you're in a personal car, you're not going to be able to hurry.

01:08:47.000 Sure.

01:08:48.000 You've got to go along with the traffic.

01:08:50.000 And I was listening to Neil Spells on the radio, but back in those days, the radios were tube type.

01:08:58.000 And I had a default, a faulty tube, and so the voice would drift in and out.

01:09:06.000 And so I wasn't getting a whole blow-by-blow account of what was happening.

01:09:10.000 I was disturbed that when I got to Lamar and Martin Springs, I saw a detective lieutenant and a detective sergeant going south on Lamar.

01:09:23.000 Why were they going the wrong direction?

01:09:25.000 That I don't know.

01:09:27.000 And then when I got to Riverside and Lamar, I came up to a red light and there was a forgery investigator, a sergeant, And at the traffic light, I rolled down my window and I asked him what was going on.

01:09:42.000 He said, well, I think we've got a person up on top of the tower shooting people and I think one of the victims is Bobby Sides.

01:09:49.000 That was a policeman.

01:09:51.000 And I was pretty well disturbed because Bobby Sides was a friend of mine and he had gotten shot back in 1964 by a burglar, but survived.

01:10:00.000 So I did peel out Yes, I did.

01:10:04.000 location when the light turned green.

01:10:06.000 You were getting mad because you saw cops going the wrong direction, standing around.

01:10:10.000 This sergeant was very nonchalant about it, you know, and so that kind of disturbed me, so I did kind of peel out as much as I could with the 54 Chevrolet.

01:10:19.000 I went on to 19th in La Mar, took a right, went up the hill, and when I could see towards the campus or to the university area, I could see that all the intersections were already been manned by officers. I could see that all the intersections were already been Most of them were from the motorcycle bunch, and so I said, well, I don't have any use.

01:10:44.000 There's no intersection for me, so I parked my car behind St. Austin's Church, and once I got out of the car and started going through the church property towards the campus, I could hear all of the shooting, and I could hear sirens, and I knew it was very bad because sirens were the The ambulance is Back in those days, the Austin Police Department did not have sirens in their cars, and so only the ambulances had sirens.

01:11:11.000 In fact, my good friend Mike Hanson, his dad was one of the ambulance drivers.

01:11:18.000 Do you remember that?

01:11:19.000 One of the ambulance drivers, he also got some awards because he was out dragging people into the ambulances and getting shot at.

01:11:24.000 I guess it must have been Otto Hanson?

01:11:25.000 Yes.

01:11:26.000 Otto.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, I knew Otto.

01:11:28.000 And like I said, they all had... Back in those days, we did not have EMS, per se.

01:11:33.000 The funeral homes were the ones that operated the ambulances, and of course, they did not have medical technicians.

01:11:39.000 All you did was drive to the scene, pick up the person, throw him inside, and race it to the hospital.

01:11:45.000 But like I said, it was the sirens were all ambulances and so I knew it was very seriously because of the volume of sirens and the shooting.

01:11:54.000 It was all high-powered rifles that I was hearing.

01:11:57.000 So we've got the ambulance folks doing their job and then you see kind of, I'm not trying to bash here, but you brought it up, police kind of standing around nonchalant.

01:12:06.000 How often were the reports?

01:12:08.000 Were they regular or did they go in spurts?

01:12:11.000 Well, it was sporadic at times, and sometimes they would kick up, just like if somebody fired and somebody else would take a clue and open fire.

01:12:23.000 The police, of course, like I said, they were working the intersection, which was about two blocks away from the campus because it was 19th.

01:12:33.000 People that were firing, I could not recognize because I would see people from behind trees, from inside buildings, from behind cars with rifles aiming up at the tower.

01:12:43.000 And you later learned that was mainly citizens?

01:12:45.000 Well, they were all citizens.

01:12:46.000 I didn't recognize a single police officer because I knew them all.

01:12:49.000 What an interesting event!

01:12:50.000 So the police are all doing traffic or going the other direction, but the citizens are all out blasting.

01:12:55.000 Now you talked Sunday on my Sunday radio program on Kelby J about how important that was because keeping him pinned down, that then kept him from killing a lot more people, didn't it?

01:13:04.000 That is correct.

01:13:06.000 But let me say this, in the defense of the police department, that the timing was very good as far as Charles Whitman's planning, I guess, if he planned it, because at 12 noon, most of your detectives were going to go out for lunch, or would be out for lunch.

01:13:21.000 Sure, he was running a military operation.

01:13:22.000 He probably chose to do that.

01:13:24.000 And then, once they checked out, remember they did not have radios like they have, or pagers, or any type of communications.

01:13:32.000 They were completely isolated from the police department.

01:13:35.000 So it was difficult for the police department to call Those officers, wherever they were... I'm not bashing the police, I'm saying this is a great illustration of how important armed citizens are.

01:13:47.000 Yes, but I understand that a lot of those officers, when they got wind of it, they went home and got their own rifles and came back too, you know, and started shooting.

01:13:56.000 A lot of the detectives did.

01:13:58.000 But the citizens were the main bulk of the people that were shooting at them.

01:14:02.000 So you saw folks all over shooting at you?

01:14:03.000 Yes, I did.

01:14:04.000 I saw quite a number of them.

01:14:06.000 And like I said, I have it in my book that I am Still mad because a lot of those people never got any credit because they saved a lot of lives by kicking the sniper pin down.

01:14:19.000 Now, your book is in stores because I have actually seen it in stores and didn't know what it was about.

01:14:23.000 I should have got it at the time, but they call me Ranger Ray and I can't wait to read this book.

01:14:30.000 Yes, well, Barnes & Noble carries it here because it's a self-published book, but I think that's where I saw it.

01:14:38.000 Normally I have a website where people can get autographed copies.

01:14:41.000 Can folks get into the Texas Ranger website?

01:14:43.000 TexasRanger.org?

01:14:46.000 I just see a big write-up on it here.

01:14:47.000 No.

01:14:49.000 uh... you can get it at the former texas ranger uh... museum no former texas ranger uh... foundation dot org that's in curville well i'll put a link to that up on info wars dot com right now uh... also uh... i'm sure amazon dot com carries it i do not know about it doesn't carry anything well we'll talk more about the book so so you're there downtown uh... there's all these people behind cars behind trees shooting at the tower well i proceed to uh... to the south mall

01:15:19.000 And I can see dead and wounded people out there, especially the pregnant women. 0.99

01:15:24.000 Oh my gosh.

01:15:26.000 And you could see her suffering because she was baking in that concrete, you know, it was so hot.

01:15:33.000 So it must have been real bad for her, the pregnant lady. 1.00

01:15:37.000 But I was standing right there by Jeff Davis' statue, not realizing that the bloke that I was looking at was where Billy Spreed, an officer, a friend of mine, had been killed.

01:15:51.000 It was a heck of a shot for him to put through there, you know, to hit Billy.

01:15:57.000 So that's when I made up my mind that I was going to get into the tower.

01:16:00.000 How many yards was that, Sean? 400?

01:16:03.000 I really don't know how far, but it was a good distance.

01:16:09.000 So you made up your mind to go into the tower then?

01:16:12.000 That is correct.

01:16:13.000 I felt that there would be an assault squad inside of the tower, so what I did, I ran fast, zigzagging, And ran by the dead, the wounded, you know, getting to the building.

01:16:27.000 Was he shooting at you at that time?

01:16:28.000 I do not know if he ever shot at me or if he even saw me.

01:16:32.000 But you heard a rifle going off?

01:16:33.000 I heard rifles going on.

01:16:34.000 I heard a lot of shooting, but I don't know if he shot at me or not, or if he even saw me.

01:16:41.000 I made it to the west side of the building and went inside, because I had been at the UT Tower ten years previously, in 1956, when I first came to Austin as a student.

01:16:51.000 My cousin and a friend took me up there, so I knew where the elevator was.

01:16:55.000 But once I got inside, I ran across Jerry Day, who was a policeman, and I asked him what was going on, so he didn't have any more information except that that guy was up there shooting.

01:17:06.000 I tried to use a telephone to call the police station, but when I dialed the first number, and it was a rotary dial back in those days, the lines were jammed.

01:17:18.000 Everybody was calling everybody.

01:17:19.000 That's right.

01:17:19.000 And I wanted them to see if they could bring some bank trucks, armored trucks to get the wounded.

01:17:25.000 Failing to do that, I saw a campus police officer.

01:17:29.000 I took his handheld radio.

01:17:31.000 They had handheld radios.

01:17:33.000 And I used a couple of channels trying to contact the station, but I could not reach the station because those channels were not compatible.

01:17:41.000 Yes.

01:17:41.000 So I decided, well, I'm going to go into the tower and see what's happening up there.

01:17:47.000 So I walked down that hallway.

01:17:49.000 And before I got on the elevator, there was a young man there with a clipboard.

01:17:56.000 And he asked me what my name was and so I told him and he wrote it down.

01:18:00.000 And I don't know what his function was.

01:18:01.000 Talk about bureaucracy.

01:18:03.000 I mean, they're just still operating like it's a... No, but this was a young man.

01:18:06.000 I don't know who he was or who... He might have been the devil himself.

01:18:10.000 Because I haven't seen him to this day, you know.

01:18:13.000 But, you know, he was doing something.

01:18:14.000 At least somebody was doing something.

01:18:16.000 So I got on the elevator and I pushed the button to the 27th floor and I saw... I was going up.

01:18:22.000 I could see the little lights flickering as the floors passed by.

01:18:25.000 I could still hear the rifle report, so I decided I better say a prayer, and I said an act of contrition.

01:18:33.000 Since I'm a Catholic, and if you are in them at death, you say an act of contrition, and supposedly, you know, our sins might be forgiven.

01:18:42.000 Stay right there, Ranger Ray Martinez.

01:18:45.000 We'll finish up with your act of contrition on the other side of this quick break, right here on the GCN radio network.

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01:23:01.000 That amazing interview going on 40 years ago in Austin right now.

01:23:06.000 It went on for what, like an hour and a half.

01:23:09.000 Charles Whitman is up there right now at this time blasting people.

01:23:13.000 He had again shot and killed 14, injured 33 and of course had killed his mother and wife hours before.

01:23:21.000 I want to try to talk a little bit about him later.

01:23:25.000 Obviously, Ranger Ray only met him for about five seconds before he killed him, so I didn't get a chance to know him.

01:23:32.000 Maybe he can give us some inside knowledge on people that he did talk to who did know him.

01:23:37.000 Ray Martinez, who later became a Texas Ranger.

01:23:41.000 I was reading through a synopsis of the book, fighting corruption in South Texas, vote rigging, fighting the kingpins down there.

01:23:47.000 I mean, you're a man after my own heart, sir.

01:23:49.000 That's just absolutely amazing.

01:23:51.000 Please continue.

01:23:52.000 So you've gone into the tower and you say a prayer.

01:23:56.000 Please go from there.

01:23:58.000 Well, I had completed my prayer when the elevator got to the 27th floor when the door opened.

01:24:04.000 Of course, I had my gun out because I didn't know what to expect.

01:24:07.000 And I was hoping to see a lot of officers in there.

01:24:10.000 But when the door opened, I was looking at a rifle and a pistol.

01:24:13.000 And the pistol belonged to Jerry Day, a police officer.

01:24:16.000 And the rifle was a person in civilian clothes.

01:24:20.000 And I figured that he was from another police agency.

01:24:24.000 So he was kind of like a king's axe, you know, and I came out of the... You guys were pointed at each other.

01:24:29.000 Yeah, I came out of the elevator and there was a little table and at the little table was a telephone.

01:24:35.000 And there was Doug Cowan who was with DPS Intelligence.

01:24:39.000 He was in civilian clothing.

01:24:42.000 And he appeared to be trying to establish communication because he kept dialing the rotary phone.

01:24:48.000 I immediately found out that this was it.

01:24:51.000 There was no assault force I mean, I was shocked because I had come all the way from my house, and here I was inside of the tower.

01:25:00.000 So, my military training took over, and of course, you secure the ground that you're on, and then from there you proceed.

01:25:07.000 So I said, okay, let's check the offices here so that we can make sure that the sniper is not here.

01:25:14.000 Of course, I could hear shooting upstairs, and I could still hear it from the outside.

01:25:19.000 And we started checking the offices, and I found one that was locked.

01:25:23.000 And I couldn't open it, and I tried to force it, and somebody said from the inside, says, who is it?

01:25:28.000 And I said, it's the police.

01:25:29.000 He said, just a minute.

01:25:31.000 So I waited, and I could hear the furniture being unstacked from the door, because they had barricaded themselves in there.

01:25:38.000 Once the door, the furniture was removed, the door opened, and a stream of people came out.

01:25:44.000 I remember two nuns, because they still wore their habits, their black and white habits, and you should have seen the terror in the face of those people as they came out.

01:25:54.000 We put them on the elevator, send them down, but there was one man that came out who was later identified as Mr. Kabor.

01:26:00.000 He had a pair of white women's shoes in his hand and he said, "My whole family has been killed." He says, "Give me the gun, I'll kill that SOB." He tried to get my gun. 0.99

01:26:13.000 I wrestled with him, restrained him, and he tried to get Jerry Day's gun.

01:26:19.000 You might have even let him help if he hadn't been hysterical grabbing your gun, Jim.

01:26:23.000 That's right.

01:26:24.000 But anyway, Jerry Day and I maneuvered him to the elevator and Jerry restrained him while I pushed a button and we sent him down because we couldn't have that distraction.

01:26:34.000 So that left the civilian who I'm going to identify as Allen Crum at this time.

01:26:40.000 And of course I did not know who he was at the time.

01:26:43.000 And I ended up counting on the phone.

01:26:45.000 So I started going up the steps and opened the door and I started going up the metal stairs and I could see bloody footprints.

01:26:54.000 So Allen Crum came to me and he says, where are you going?

01:26:57.000 I said, I'm going to go up there and look for the person.

01:27:00.000 And so he said, you're not going by yourself.

01:27:02.000 He says, I'll go with you.

01:27:03.000 We'll do it service style.

01:27:04.000 I said, come on.

01:27:06.000 So we started up.

01:27:07.000 I led the way going up the steps and of course it was very scary because for many going up we were very well exposed inside of there.

01:27:16.000 He could have popped around from any corner and shot us.

01:27:19.000 Both of us. 0.99

01:27:20.000 But at least I felt that by being two of us, one could get a shot off at him.

01:27:25.000 So anyway, went up the first flight of stairs and then took a right and then the next flight of stairs and I could see the first landing.

01:27:35.000 And I was looking at the face of a young boy who was the little Gabor boy that had been killed.

01:27:40.000 Oh my gosh.

01:27:40.000 His tongue was protruding out of his mouth and his eyes were riveted on me.

01:27:45.000 Of course, he was dead.

01:27:48.000 I walked towards him and it took an eternity.

01:27:51.000 It felt like an eternity to get to him.

01:27:54.000 When I got to him, of course, I peeked around the corner and there was a dead woman who was his aunt.

01:27:59.000 Another woman who was his mother.

01:28:01.000 She was wounded and she was face down choking in her own blood.

01:28:05.000 And at the end was another young man, the deceased boy's brother, who was an Air Force Academy cadet.

01:28:12.000 Oh my gosh.

01:28:13.000 He was wounded, but he was conscious and he pointed upward and said, he's out there.

01:28:18.000 Stay right there.

01:28:19.000 We'll get back. 0.99

01:28:20.000 Your confrontation with the psychopathic killer, Charles Whitman, the Marine Corps sniper up there killing people.

01:28:28.000 On the other side of this quick break right here on the GCN Radio Network, the hero of that day, one of the great heroes of that day, Ray Martinez is our guest, the Austin police officer who was the first to fire on the mad gunman.

01:28:41.000 We'll be right back.

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01:28:56.000 Definitely somewhere with a beach, though who knows if our feet will even touch the sand.

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01:29:04.000 No, I want to, but men can be so sensitive.

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01:32:05.000 Ray Martinez is also the director of the former Texas Rangers Association and he is the author Of a great book that I'm going to definitely read as soon as I get a chance.

01:32:15.000 They call me Ranger Ray from the UT Tower Sniper to Corruption in South Texas.

01:32:20.000 I've got to have you on some other time via the telephone.

01:32:23.000 Soon I have to come in from New Braunfels, South Austin to talk about South Texas.

01:32:27.000 But let's spend a few minutes on that before this hour ends, Officer Martinez, or Ranger Martinez.

01:32:33.000 Please continue now.

01:32:35.000 So the young boy is wounded, but he points and he says he's up there, he's out there, and you continue to move forward?

01:32:42.000 Well, we had to move him out of the way because of the possibility that a sniper could shoot down the stairway and he could get hit as we were going up.

01:32:50.000 So we moved him out.

01:32:51.000 We turned his mother over to keep her from drowning in her own blood.

01:32:54.000 And that's where I got the blood on my shirt because when I handled him and her. 0.83

01:32:59.000 In fact, that shirt is just right over there.

01:33:01.000 Yes, it is.

01:33:01.000 Later we'll pull that out.

01:33:04.000 Anyway, after we had moved him out of the way, I proceeded up at the last flight of stairs, which was blocked by a desk.

01:33:12.000 And before we got to the desk, my companion, Ellen Crum, looked at me and he said, are we playing for keeps?

01:33:19.000 And I looked at him and I'm thinking, well, we had been through the dead and the wounded and the shooting was still going on.

01:33:24.000 And I said, you're damn right we are.

01:33:26.000 He says, well, I guess you better deputize me. 0.60

01:33:28.000 So I told him, consider yourself deputized.

01:33:31.000 And that was the formality of it right there.

01:33:33.000 So, once he was deputized, he felt real good.

01:33:37.000 He looked like, the expression on his face looked real good.

01:33:40.000 So we proceeded on up and we pushed that desk around to use it as a barrier as we secured the top floor.

01:33:47.000 We found the receptionist behind the couch. 0.71

01:33:50.000 She was dying.

01:33:52.000 We couldn't do anything for her.

01:33:54.000 The next thing I had to do was, there was only one way to get out onto the observation deck and that is on the south, almost on the southeast corner, there's a glass door.

01:34:04.000 And Whitman had propped his dolly that he used to transport all of his equipment up there against the door to keep it from being opened.

01:34:14.000 I pushed and I pushed and I pushed until I finally pushed the door open and the dolly went over backwards clanging as it went.

01:34:22.000 Now all of this time you could really hear a lot of the shooting because he was really amplified up there on the very top.

01:34:30.000 And I guess he didn't hear it because of all of the shooting.

01:34:32.000 And again, that goes back to the citizens and police.

01:34:34.000 That's right.

01:34:35.000 Down there with the deer rifles, shooting up there.

01:34:37.000 And you described for me, Sunday on the radio, that there was limestone, the towers built out of, just exploding fragments all around you.

01:34:45.000 Yes, there were quite fragments of the limestone and dust coming down.

01:34:50.000 And of course, I got out onto the observation deck and I looked to the west.

01:34:57.000 And I couldn't see anything so I then went to the next corner and I looked down on the east side all the way down to the northeast corner and I couldn't see anything so I got Alan Crum out and I faced him in the direction of the west southwest corner and I told him I said I'm going to go around and look for him. 0.60

01:35:20.000 If he comes around that corner shoot him.

01:35:23.000 Okay, so he said okay. 0.98

01:35:24.000 So I took off on the east side going towards the northeast corner.

01:35:29.000 Before I got to the northeast corner, I turned around and Houston McCoy, another police officer, came out and he had a shotgun.

01:35:40.000 And that shotgun looked like a beautiful thing.

01:35:43.000 And so anyway, I proceeded on to the corner and McCoy was advancing towards me, behind me.

01:35:50.000 When I got to the corner I looked around but I couldn't see all the way to the other corner because there's protrusions or extensions where the clocks are built.

01:35:59.000 Yes.

01:36:00.000 So I had to really move out and then of course you have all those big old lights back in those days that would light up the tower.

01:36:08.000 So they were kind of an obstruction too.

01:36:10.000 So I had to really move out and when I finally got out as far as I could I could see the sniper.

01:36:15.000 He was sitting in the northwest corner, aiming his rifle at the southeast corner, and he looked like he was drawing a bead on somebody.

01:36:25.000 And I immediately thought that Mr. Crumb had left his position and he was about to be shot.

01:36:30.000 So I fired a fast round at him, hitting him somewhere on the left, and he sprung up to his feet like a cat and turned towards me, and he was trying to bring that M1 carbine down, but I kept advancing.

01:36:43.000 It was kind of like a duck walk because I had to stay down so that I wouldn't get hit from below.

01:36:48.000 And I advanced at him, firing my gun.

01:36:52.000 McCoy was behind me.

01:36:53.000 I hollered at McCoy to shoot the shotgun, which he did.

01:36:56.000 At that time, my gun was empty, so I reached up and I took the shotgun from McCoy and fired one more blast. 0.73

01:37:03.000 At him, and then there he was, dead.

01:37:05.000 So you unloaded into him.

01:37:06.000 How many of your six shots from your revolver hit him?

01:37:09.000 I do not know.

01:37:09.000 I have never seen a copy of the autopsy.

01:37:12.000 I don't know.

01:37:13.000 I've seen reports on the encyclopedia online.

01:37:16.000 Supposedly, he was just blown to bits.

01:37:18.000 Well, he had a few bullet holes, all right.

01:37:21.000 I mean, he had a few holes in him.

01:37:23.000 But anyway, he was dead, and I started waving the shotgun, hollering at them below to stop shooting, but they couldn't hear.

01:37:31.000 So I threw the shotgun down.

01:37:32.000 It's a huge tower.

01:37:33.000 Yeah.

01:37:34.000 And I picked up my gun, put it in my holster.

01:37:36.000 At that time, Houston was kneeling or kind of squatting in front of the body and he was going through the pockets.

01:37:43.000 I guess he was trying to find identification.

01:37:46.000 And I told Houston, I'm getting the hell out of here.

01:37:48.000 And that's when Alan Crum found the towel and he started waving the towel to get the people to stop shooting.

01:37:57.000 Later, I heard that people were complaining and saying, why did they have to kill him if he gave up?

01:38:04.000 They didn't realize that he was Helen Crumb that was waving the towel.

01:38:08.000 But anyway, I got the hell out of there and when I went down, they had already removed the dead and the wounded.

01:38:14.000 I got to the bottom floor.

01:38:17.000 I was met by Lieutenant Merrill Wells and Lieutenant Morgan, Leonard Morgan.

01:38:23.000 And they both each grabbed me by the arm because they thought I was wounded because of the blood on my shirt.

01:38:27.000 And they was trying to put me in an ambulance, and I told them no.

01:38:30.000 I said, there's other people that need the ambulance.

01:38:32.000 I said, I'm all right.

01:38:34.000 And at that time, Lieutenant Wells said, you need to go to the police station and write a report.

01:38:41.000 So there was a detective sergeant there from forgery, Johnny Pope.

01:38:49.000 Uh, Johnny said, I'll take you.

01:38:51.000 And he started pushing the, uh, opening the, the, the crowd because it was a big crowd.

01:38:56.000 And I followed John and, uh, my legs, uh, couldn't support me because the adrenaline stopped pumping.

01:39:02.000 And so anyway, uh, he helped me and he took me into the car and we went to the police station.

01:39:08.000 The police station, I was met by the chief and, uh, Hub Bechtel, who was the city council person.

01:39:13.000 And he wanted to know, they wanted to know what happened.

01:39:15.000 So I kind of told them what had transpired as best as I could.

01:39:19.000 I was having the dry heaves and I didn't realize it, but reading on Texas Monthly a couple of days ago that a person that witnessed me come out of the tower said that I was covered with perspiration, which was an extremely hot day.

01:39:35.000 So I feel that I was probably dehydrated to the extreme that I was possibly going to pass out, you know, because of a heat stroke probably.

01:39:44.000 Well, there's also just the incredible stress of that entire build-up and that archetypal image of marching up the stairs of the tower, going up to face this evil creature and the stress of it, and then also the relief, of course, of being successful in doing that.

01:40:02.000 In hindsight, what's it like for you to be here being honored in the city of Austin today downtown?

01:40:06.000 What's it like for you to be here 40 years later?

01:40:10.000 In fact, I mean right now I guess you would be going back 40 years ago.

01:40:14.000 You were in your car on your way down there or do you think you'd already gotten down to that vicinity by now?

01:40:20.000 What time did you get there?

01:40:21.000 Well, right now I'd probably be getting close to the tower.

01:40:23.000 I mean I've been, I'd be somewhere right there, not exactly pinpointed, but I'd be somewhere in the general vicinity of the South Mall.

01:40:32.000 What time did you, how long did it take you from the time you got to the South Mall to the time you, what time did you kill him?

01:40:38.000 Well, it was over about 1.30, and so I can't say specifically where I was at what time, but I'm pretty sure I was working my way up to the tower at the time.

01:40:52.000 Because you've got to remember that when Alan Crumb and I went up those last two flight of stairs, it was slow because we had to use a lot of caution.

01:41:02.000 We just didn't rush in there.

01:41:03.000 We had to use caution, move very cautiously.

01:41:08.000 What do we know about Charles Whitman?

01:41:10.000 A lot has been written, a lot has been said, from talking to other officers, from talking to the police here locally, from talking to the FBI who came in.

01:41:17.000 What was going on with this individual?

01:41:19.000 What was the motivation?

01:41:20.000 Some say it was a brain tumor.

01:41:21.000 You seem to believe that might not be it.

01:41:25.000 Ranger Ray, tell us what you think really went on there.

01:41:28.000 Well, I assume it was possibly Uh, mental for one thing.

01:41:35.000 He had, allegedly, he had some swing moods and he complained of severe headaches.

01:41:42.000 He had family problems with his father.

01:41:47.000 He believed that he was on amphetamines.

01:41:52.000 And also too, there's a debate about the tumor.

01:41:55.000 You know, the size of the tumor.

01:41:56.000 I've talked to a doctor that was, Dr. Pepe, who was the emergency room doctor.

01:42:01.000 At the time, he said what he saw, he thought he was the size of a peanut.

01:42:06.000 You know, the pathologist said he was the size of a pecan.

01:42:11.000 And of course there was some debate as to how it affected the brain.

01:42:16.000 Dr. Papay told me that he didn't think much of the autopsy because there was a lot of questions about Dr. Shannard.

01:42:26.000 He supposedly came from Hungary and they could not question his documents because at the time Hungary was behind the Iron Curtain.

01:42:34.000 So they had a lot of doubts about him.

01:42:36.000 So there's a little debate now, not from me because I'm not a medical professional, but from some of the medical officers.

01:42:45.000 Things like this really hadn't happened in the United States, or anywhere else for that matter.

01:42:49.000 Mad gunmen, which later became a more common unfortunate phenomenon, but what was this like in 1966 in a little sleepy college town like Austin, Texas?

01:43:01.000 What was the effect on the public?

01:43:03.000 Well, the effect of the poplar was shocked, and also the police department.

01:43:08.000 Because, you know, the innocence, the day of innocence was gone.

01:43:13.000 Because, nowadays, people will question, well, why didn't they stop him when he came over there with that dolly full of equipment, you know, his guns and all of that?

01:43:23.000 Well, back in those days, of course, he had the guns wrapped up in blankets.

01:43:27.000 Well, I'm glad that they did.

01:43:28.000 he would have been challenged, but back in those days, we were a very trusting nation, and we wouldn't question him, so that's why he took advantage of the innocence of the people and went on up there to the tower.

01:43:41.000 They've reopened the tower now.

01:43:43.000 They've put some precautions in.

01:43:45.000 What did you think about that decision?

01:43:47.000 Well, I'm glad that they did.

01:43:49.000 I'm glad that they reopened it because I felt as long as the tower was closed, that Charles Whitman had won.

01:43:57.000 And I'm glad to see that it's open and they are conducting tours.

01:44:01.000 Of course, it's limited, but still it's open.

01:44:03.000 And I'm glad that people, the citizens of the state of Texas can get up there and see the views from their beautiful tower.

01:44:10.000 You can see the mountains off to the west and the hills and you can see the plains off and the whole skyline from there.

01:44:18.000 Shifting gears, I want to get back a little bit into this, but you're here in Austin today.

01:44:21.000 What are you here in Austin for today?

01:44:23.000 Well, primarily just for this.

01:44:26.000 I have a speaking engagement this evening in Lago Vista.

01:44:31.000 I'm not here to reminisce about it.

01:44:34.000 I'm not going to go to the Tower.

01:44:35.000 I'm not going to go anywhere else other than be here.

01:44:38.000 Have you been back to the Tower since then, 40 years ago?

01:44:40.000 Oh yes, I've been for just about every Anniversary, the 5th anniversary, the 0th anniversary, 10th, 15th, 20th anniversary, you know, there's the news media that's interested in it and I get called, I go up there with them and we do a piece and it's because it is history and there's a lot of people, especially a person that was born 40 years ago, are not aware of it.

01:45:10.000 Now they're 40 years old and they said, hey, I wasn't even born.

01:45:13.000 So it is a historical incident that happened and so people like to know about it.

01:45:18.000 Well, I think about it quite often when I look at it, especially when it's all lit up, burnt orange at night.

01:45:22.000 It kind of looks evil.

01:45:25.000 But I'm not saying it's evil itself, I just think about that.

01:45:29.000 Tell us now, spend a few minutes about after that happened, what you did, how you got into the Texas Rangers, some of the things you did in South Texas rooting out corruption.

01:45:37.000 Well, after this incident happened, of course I stayed two more years in the Austin Police Department.

01:45:45.000 I was promoted to sergeant in November and I had already, I was already on the list to be promoted.

01:45:51.000 I was on the eligibility list.

01:45:52.000 So an opening came up in November and I was promoted to sergeant investigator.

01:45:58.000 I stayed for another two years and I started looking for better, greater pastures because I had a family to feed and at that time the Austin Police Department pay was kind of very low.

01:46:10.000 The retirement system was terrible.

01:46:12.000 But nowadays they have one of the best pays in the state and a good retirement system.

01:46:18.000 But anyway, I left and I went into private business, a partnership with a cafe there on the picnic on Guadalupe Street.

01:46:28.000 And I hadn't been in that business for about two weeks and I started missing law enforcement.

01:46:32.000 So, before the year was up, I had applied and I went with the Department of Public Safety as a narcotic agent stationed in Houston.

01:46:41.000 That was the beginning of the Department of Public Safety was just hiring people because the drug problem was beginning to escalate.

01:46:50.000 As a matter of fact, in 1966, when this incident happened, the Austin Police Department, as I have the annual report for Austin in 1966 here, There was only one pound and a half Of marijuana confiscated in the whole city of Austin.

01:47:09.000 Wow.

01:47:10.000 And so you can see that by 1969 the problem had escalated.

01:47:13.000 Exponential.

01:47:14.000 Very much so.

01:47:15.000 And that's why I got into the ground floor of the State Narcotic Division.

01:47:19.000 How did you get into the Texas Rangers, one of the most elite policing groups in the country?

01:47:24.000 Well, after being on the state narcotics for a couple of years, I got a personal invitation, a letter from Captain Clint Peoples, who was the senior ranger captain, inviting me to compete for the ranger exam.

01:47:39.000 And to me and to everybody else, whenever the senior ranger captain sends you a letter of invitation, that means that you're going to make it.

01:47:49.000 However, what happened was I was stationed in Houston at the time.

01:47:53.000 And I went to have coffee with Captain Eddie Oliver, who was the ranger captain commanding company there in Houston.

01:48:02.000 And we were shooting the breeze.

01:48:04.000 And he said, well, he said the DPS commission wants to have another Hispanic ranger.

01:48:09.000 And that turned me off because I wasn't going to be a token.

01:48:13.000 I wanted to make it on my own.

01:48:15.000 So I wrote a nice letter to Captain Peoples declining to take the test.

01:48:22.000 The following year The advertisements about ranger testing came through normal channels, and that's when I applied.

01:48:30.000 I took the test, I made the interview board, I ended up on the eligibility list, but not high enough to make it.

01:48:37.000 The following year, again, I competed, and this time I made it.

01:48:40.000 So I felt like I earned my badge, and my badge was not given to me.

01:48:44.000 And so that shooting and criminology, it's a pretty hard test, isn't it?

01:48:50.000 Well, yes, it is.

01:48:52.000 Well, that's another incredible thing.

01:48:54.000 I mean, obviously, you'd make a great ranger, what you did at the tower, your military skills, all of it, you've done a good job in the DPS, so they wanted you, but because there was some politicking above that, You wanted to make it totally on your own merit, and you did.

01:49:10.000 That's what I wanted.

01:49:11.000 I wanted to earn the badge, not have it handed to me.

01:49:17.000 When I got it in 1973, I was very proud.

01:49:19.000 I was sent to Laredo.

01:49:21.000 Laredo is a different country, so to speak, a different world.

01:49:26.000 I really enjoyed it.

01:49:27.000 The people were great, but it wasn't very long before the following year that I was involved in the We'll stay there.

01:49:39.000 You fought corruption big time.

01:49:40.000 Some of the kingpins down there.

01:49:43.000 Final segment coming up with our guests.

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01:53:12.000 Ranger Ray Martinez is our guest.

01:53:14.000 Final signal with him.

01:53:15.000 Boy, this hour went by incredibly fast.

01:53:18.000 You've actually got the shirt there, and we're going to show that to the TV viewers, if you could hold that up for the camera, Ranger.

01:53:26.000 That's just amazing.

01:53:27.000 There is the actual shirt that you were wearing that day.

01:53:30.000 That is history.

01:53:31.000 Did you hear that one of the bullets that was on Whitman went for over $200,000?

01:53:37.000 Did you hear about that, Ranger?

01:53:38.000 Yes, I did.

01:53:39.000 We were just talking about during the break you could, you're trying to set up some type of, I mean, a ranger organization or historical organization.

01:53:49.000 And I tell you, that shirt might just be able to fund doing that.

01:53:53.000 Sure would be great if I could utilize it for that purpose.

01:53:59.000 Well, who knows?

01:54:00.000 A lot of folks are listening to this radio show.

01:54:02.000 How would an organization or group get a hold of you?

01:54:04.000 Do you have an email address or a website people can get to you through?

01:54:09.000 Perhaps the Texas Ranger website that has a whole section on you, the TexasRanger.org?

01:54:15.000 How could they do that?

01:54:17.000 They can get with my email or I have a website and it is RangerRay.net.

01:54:27.000 RangerRay.net.

01:54:28.000 We'll get a link to that up on my website, InfoWars.com.

01:54:32.000 Just in a nutshell, you've had quite a career.

01:54:34.000 I mean, the Tower is one small part of it.

01:54:36.000 You really spearheaded and rooted out a bunch of corruption in South Texas, didn't you?

01:54:40.000 Well, it was a team.

01:54:41.000 It was a team effort.

01:54:42.000 It was the Attorney General's office and other Rangers and I that... Boss hog types. 1.00

01:54:47.000 ...that went into Duval County, which was Where Lyndon Johnson got his start in 1948 with a landslide victory.

01:54:58.000 Ballot box.

01:54:59.000 Ballot box 13.

01:55:01.000 And we got to, and there's the task force and we investigated and that was one of them, well another ranger, Rudy Rodriguez from San Antonio and I, we were the ones who were the mainstays that stayed there.

01:55:14.000 But of course we had the Attorney General's Office People, plus some of their investigators that assist us, and Gene Powell, who was a ranger stationed in Bishop.

01:55:22.000 We all got involved into the corruption.

01:55:25.000 By the time we got through, we had indicted 118.

01:55:30.000 Anywhere from school superintendents to county judges, county commissioners, you name them, we got them.

01:55:36.000 So a lot of them had their snout in the trough?

01:55:37.000 What kind of stuff was going on?

01:55:38.000 Well, they were misdirecting county funds, city funds, school funds, water district funds.

01:55:46.000 They were all using it for their own benefit, and the poor people there are very poor, but their taxes were very high, and they were just stealing them right and left.

01:55:56.000 Boy, I bet the Texas Rangers could have a lot of work to do today.

01:55:58.000 There's lots of that going on now, Ranger Ray.

01:56:01.000 Well, there's just very few Rangers.

01:56:03.000 But now, there's corruption everywhere, but my book says South Texas because that's where I worked.

01:56:10.000 Now, I know there's some in East Texas, North Texas, West Texas, wherever.

01:56:13.000 But South Texas, that area was legendary.

01:56:15.000 Yes, it is.

01:56:16.000 And, you know, I always bring up a little story about when I was stationed in Laredo because I did the street department investigation in Laredo where we indicted 26 people, city employees, because they were diverting money from the street funds to their own pockets.

01:56:34.000 But anyway, there was a A little article in one of the newspapers there in Laredo that has so many years ago in history and this one was about so many years ago there in Webb County or Laredo and it said X number of years ago the county judge was running for re-election and he had a challenger, a young man.

01:56:58.000 The young man got up and talked to the crowd and said Ladies and gentlemen of Webb County, the judge here has had a road, a county road, paved all the way from Zapata Highway to the front of his ranch, and he had the audacity to not just pave it to the front of his ranch, but he also had it paved all the way down to his house.

01:57:18.000 Oh boy!

01:57:19.000 And so the people cheered and the young man sat down, and the old judge got up there and said, ladies and gentlemen of Webb County, what the young man has told you is... Stay there!

01:57:30.000 Stay there! 0.92

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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 An extra segment with our guest, Ranger Ray Martinez.

01:58:10.000 So honored to have him in studio today.

01:58:13.000 And what, rangerray.net you said, sir?

01:58:15.000 That's right.

01:58:17.000 Finishing up your story, so the young man running against the judge says he paved this road all the way to his house, obviously, you know, very corrupt, and then everybody claps for the station that just joined us.

01:58:28.000 This is in South Texas.

01:58:29.000 The young man sits down, the judge stands up and says... So ladies and gentlemen of Webb County, what the young man has told you is true.

01:58:37.000 I did pave the road.

01:58:38.000 I had the road paved to my ranch.

01:58:40.000 Now, do you want to elect this young man and pave his ranch road?

01:58:45.000 And he sat down and he got re-elected.

01:58:47.000 You're kidding.

01:58:48.000 But that's the way it was, you know, over there.

01:58:50.000 Wow.

01:58:51.000 But there was a lot of corruption and, of course, voter fraud.

01:58:53.000 I was involved in a lot of it, investigating a lot of those elections.

01:58:59.000 I always voted absentee because I was never going to be in my home precinct during election day.

01:59:05.000 I was going to be somewhere in South Texas supervising the elections or investigating the elections.

01:59:11.000 Do the reports of nationwide election fraud today concern you?

01:59:15.000 They sure do.

01:59:18.000 I don't know why, but ever since man first came on this earth and they started voting, there's been somebody that has always been around trying to figure out a way how to Yeah, there were cases 3,000 years ago with the Greeks where they would put the stones in the bowls and people would be trying to put extra stones in there, have them in their sleeve. 0.62

01:59:39.000 I wish we had more police officers like you today, more people who really run a life of service and you're a great example and a model for everybody not just in Texas but around the country Ranger Ray Martinez a director of the former Texas Ranger Association the man who pumped the most rounds in the first rounds into Mr. Whitman 40 years ago that was just about to happen here in a few minutes wasn't it yeah in about 30 minutes or less all right well Ranger Ray thank you so much for joining us today sir

02:00:08.000 thank you and And I appreciate you letting us take so much of your time and your lovely wife being here, who I'm told is a Fredericksburg girl.

02:00:16.000 I've got some family that lives out in Fredericksburg.

02:00:19.000 Alright, well we're almost out of time here, Ranger Ray.

02:00:22.000 Just in closing, in the last minute or two we've got left, anything else you'd like to add out there to police and to society in general about standing up against corruption?

02:00:33.000 Well, it is an ongoing problem and we have a battle That we have to wage against corruption.

02:00:43.000 We have to vote.

02:00:44.000 By all means vote.

02:00:45.000 Because that is the thing that has bothered me the most.

02:00:49.000 That people don't get out and vote.

02:00:51.000 And we're electing people with a very, very small percentage of voters.

02:00:57.000 I would like to see about 50-60% of the population get out there and vote.

02:01:03.000 At least we could have some good representation.

02:01:07.000 Let me say this.

02:01:07.000 There is corruption in South Texas, but I'll tell you one thing.

02:01:11.000 They know how to get the voters out.

02:01:13.000 And that is the sad part.

02:01:15.000 Because they really bring those people out in Duval County, Laredo.

02:01:19.000 They really bring the voters out.

02:01:21.000 You guys have now settled in beautiful New Braunfels.

02:01:24.000 That is correct.

02:01:27.000 Why'd you choose New Braunfels?

02:01:29.000 Nice folks?

02:01:29.000 Pretty landscape?

02:01:31.000 It's a beautiful country.

02:01:33.000 And my family is in Austin.

02:01:36.000 Hers is in Fredericksburg, so we're just about an hour away from both sides.

02:01:41.000 So you're right between family.

02:01:42.000 Well, that's why I live in Texas because all my family lives right here in Austin.

02:01:46.000 Did you hear that this has been named Officer Ray Martinez Day in Austin today?

02:01:55.000 That is correct.

02:01:55.000 The proclamation was made last Thursday.

02:01:59.000 Well, that's fantastic.

02:02:00.000 That's fantastic.

02:02:01.000 Well, it's been, again, a great honor to have you with us here and also the testament about citizens in the Second Amendment defending the population and helping police do their job.

02:02:14.000 It's good to hear an officer talk about that and say that because we see so many political pressures now against the Second Amendment to really try to turn police against it.

02:02:23.000 It's good to know that most police are still, even today, pro-Second Amendment.

02:02:27.000 Well, I'm happy to say that again about those citizens.

02:02:31.000 And they never, never got their just award or recognition.

02:02:35.000 And I think they did a tremendous job in saving a lot of lives from that day.

02:02:40.000 Thank you again for joining us.

02:02:41.000 Alright, that is Ray Martinez.

02:02:43.000 We'll be right back.

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02:06:51.000 But the reason we have Ray Martinez in here is because I've read a lot about him in the past, or some about him, and I knew that he really fought corruption in South Texas, went up against the Texas Mafia down there that originally sent Lennon Johnson to Congress.

02:07:07.000 These are the folks that basically put the people in power that killed Kennedy.

02:07:11.000 And then at the same time, killing Charles Whitman and so many other things that Ray Martinez did.

02:07:18.000 And I wish police were like that today.

02:07:20.000 But even going back then, they weren't perfect.

02:07:22.000 In fact, you heard him criticizing, and in private he criticizes even more, that most of the police were standing around either running out of the area or sucking their thumbs or screwing around and nonchalantly talking about there's somebody up there shooting.

02:07:35.000 And I don't claim to be some big hero or a tough guy. 0.99

02:07:37.000 But I know with total certainty, I guess there's fight or flight, fight or flight, that if I knew somebody was up on a tower shooting people, that I would get a gun and I would go and kill them.

02:07:51.000 And of course I might get killed because I probably wouldn't clear a building, I'd just go charging in. 0.87

02:07:54.000 I mean, that's how I am. 0.99

02:07:56.000 You can call me stupid if you want, but that's how men are supposed to behave. 0.97

02:07:59.000 And again, I'm not here, you know, well I could do something like that. 0.98

02:08:03.000 No, no, no, most people today aren't like that.

02:08:08.000 I don't understand it.

02:08:09.000 And yes, ladies and gentlemen, I've had people pull guns on me and I've taken them away and beaten them over the head with it.

02:08:14.000 And yes, I've had people attack me with knives.

02:08:17.000 I can't believe how sweet and nice Austin is compared to growing up in Dallas.

02:08:22.000 And I just don't understand how it isn't instinctive.

02:08:27.000 How it is an instinctive that when somebody's up on a tower shooting people for an hour no one was doing anything and Lei Martinez shows up an hour plus into it and that he goes in there and there is one other police officer there and a citizen.

02:08:49.000 And this happens over and over again.

02:08:50.000 I don't know how citizens aren't involved.

02:08:52.000 How people don't feel like they have a compulsion to be involved.

02:08:55.000 I mean, I know it's instinct.

02:08:57.000 Fight or flight.

02:08:58.000 I tend to fight.

02:09:00.000 I mean, it's instinctive.

02:09:01.000 It's automatic. 0.99

02:09:02.000 It's instant that when I see a psychopath, a criminal, a scumbag, And it's the same thing with what we do every day. 0.97

02:09:09.000 We have to have the moral courage, the moral courage that many of you had to expose 9-11 as an inside job on day one. 0.98

02:09:16.000 Moral courage, many times, takes greater courage than physical actions.

02:09:22.000 But again, there was a case three or four years ago, an Austin police officer got run over at the corner of William Cannon and I-35 on the access road.

02:09:33.000 And for, what was it, 45 minutes, nobody helped him, nobody called the police until a cop car drove by and they helped him.

02:09:38.000 I see cases all the time, there was one up in Canada, what was it, Toronto, the young girl beaten and raped with a pipe and beaten in the head on a major street, on a major sidewalk, people walking around her, and the CEO, the big telecom giant, got in trouble because he was looking out the window and everybody was looking, he laughed at her and said, oh, nobody cares, you know, everybody go back to work, don't call the police, you know, that'll distract work.

02:10:02.000 I mean, I read these all the time where some old lady gets mugged out in the street and nobody helps her.

02:10:08.000 And, again, I don't even think that's courage, ladies and gentlemen, to, if you see people mugging somebody, to go beat their brains out.

02:10:15.000 I mean, I just, I've never understood it.

02:10:18.000 I don't understand it.

02:10:20.000 I told the story.

02:10:21.000 Everybody thanked me when I did a Heimlich Maneuver a few years ago at Le Madeleine Restaurant in North Austin.

02:10:29.000 It's kind of a fast food french place not really but you know what i mean and i'm in there and i go to the bathroom and i come back everybody's freaking out this woman's choking turning purple falling all over the table and i say somebody to the heimlich and people are like be quiet call 9-1-1 call 9-1-1 and i sit there about 20 seconds watching these people men and women probably 15 20 of them standing around are going 9-1-1 9-1-1!

02:10:51.000 She would have died! 0.87

02:10:52.000 And then I tried to go in to help her, and I had these women pushing on me, going, what? 1.00

02:10:56.000 Wait!

02:10:58.000 And then I shoved them out of the way, grabbed her, did the Heimlich, a big wad of bread came out of her mouth, and everybody was telling me how great I was, and I just basically fled the scene, because I didn't want to hear it.

02:11:10.000 Now, to me, that is normal!

02:11:13.000 And something else happened like that, I was at one of these, my children like to go to these, you know they got these places where it's like indoor gymnasiums and this girl, it's like a

02:11:26.000 It's like a ladder laying on its side and they like do things on it and she got in it and got stuck in it and she was panicking and I sat there about two minutes while everybody stood around while she was panicking with her head stuck in it and she was starting to jerk and cry and freak out and I had to walk over and push the people aside again and turn her head and get her and pull her out of there and she wasn't hurt.

02:11:51.000 She was about to get hurt.

02:11:52.000 It's like an animal will get caught in a trap and rip its own leg off.

02:11:56.000 Again, people ask why I do what I do, why I fight the New World Order, why I stand up at police checkpoints, why I go protest thumb scanning biometrics and get arrested, why I go and sneak into Bohemian Grove, or why I go and bullhorn the Bilderberg Group.

02:12:12.000 I mean, there's a good chance they're going to kill me, and I understand that.

02:12:15.000 My only sadness is after they kill me, I'm ready to die to stand up against evil.

02:12:20.000 I'm committed. 0.97

02:12:20.000 I'm not even worried about it. 0.97

02:12:21.000 I think it's an honor to stand up and to be sacrificed in the jaws of this if need be.

02:12:27.000 My only sadness is I won't be able to continue my work, continue to hopefully I inspire people to fight the globalists in a better fashion than I do, because I'm not perfect.

02:12:36.000 I've got a lot of problems.

02:12:38.000 And I know that after they kill me, if they do kill me, and if that's God's will, it'll happen.

02:12:41.000 I don't know if it's going to happen. 0.62

02:12:42.000 There's a good chance of it.

02:12:44.000 Then all the hit pieces and all the moles and all the COINTELPRO are going to attack me and slander me and try to destroy me, because if they kill me, then they'll have to destroy me even further in the public view, so that I won't be some type of martyr.

02:12:59.000 So I also know that. 0.99

02:13:00.000 I'll probably, if I am killed, go down in history as a scumbag and a crazy man like Jim Garrison or somebody. 1.00

02:13:07.000 And that's just too bad. 1.00

02:13:09.000 But you know what?

02:13:10.000 The people that really know, the people that are involved, the people that are informed, they will know the truth about what we've done.

02:13:16.000 But yeah, Otto Hanson.

02:13:20.000 It was the citizens that were shooting at Whitman because he killed most of the 14 just in the first 10-15 minutes and once they pinned him down he only wounded a few other people because there were over 50 according to the numbers I've seen they don't even know the full numbers of citizens and then police showed up finally shooting at Charles Whitman up on the tower and it was Otto Hanson who would drive out his ambulance while it was being shot

02:13:45.000 And was loading police officers and other people that had been shot, pregnant women, into it.

02:13:50.000 And so he got a bunch of awards for that.

02:13:52.000 One of the few, quote, civilians that did.

02:13:54.000 And you notice that Texas Ranger Ray Martinez talked about how the media and the government and the police didn't give any credit to the citizens that were shooting in Whitman.

02:14:03.000 It's because it had already started.

02:14:04.000 The anti-gun mentality had already started.

02:14:07.000 And they don't want to send the message that citizens with guns are a good thing. 0.88

02:14:11.000 Again, you're never going to stop Lone Nuts from going out and shooting people. 1.00

02:14:14.000 All you can hope is there's going to be armed citizens that have got guns there to stop them.

02:14:20.000 So, you know, people like Otto Hanson.

02:14:24.000 I've talked to people that knew Otto Hanson, not just Mike Hanson, his son, who fights the New World Order with me and done a lot of great work and snuck into Bohemian Grove with me.

02:14:33.000 And Otto Hanson was there trying to get police to help him drive out and drag people while Otto Hanson was being shot at, in fact, I think.

02:14:41.000 I think it was in the news Mike told me he even had fragments of semen in him because the bullets were impacting around him and he was trying to get police to help him load even the officers and as I mentioned a pregnant woman in the car and they wouldn't even help.

02:14:54.000 I mean again what is wrong with people that I mean that I mean I've talked to other auto mechanics you'll be getting your car fixed and aren't you Alex Jones works with Mike Hanson?

02:15:03.000 Oh I used to race hot rods with With Otto Hanson.

02:15:06.000 I mean, Otto Hanson was a nice, you know, beer drinking, uh, you know, uh, race car driving, uh, slash ambulance driving, just good old boy.

02:15:14.000 And it wasn't even an issue of courage.

02:15:17.000 You got people bleeding to death.

02:15:18.000 You're an ambulance, uh, driver.

02:15:20.000 Back then the ambulance driver was the paramedic as well.

02:15:23.000 And they were private.

02:15:24.000 And so you go out there and you help people.

02:15:26.000 And so we've gone from 1966, with most of the police sucking their thumbs and sitting there, to Columbine in 1999, for four hours and fifteen minutes.

02:15:36.000 4 hours and 15 minutes outside afraid to go into the school.

02:15:42.000 While most of the 14 that died bled to death from wounds that were treatable.

02:15:52.000 So, it's just amazing.

02:15:55.000 It's the same mentality that there are a bunch of yuppies and middle class people listening right now.

02:16:04.000 No 9-11 is an inside job and they're not even going to tell their wife or husband about it.

02:16:07.000 They're not even going to inform their neighbors.

02:16:09.000 They're not going to talk about it at church.

02:16:11.000 They're going to do nothing because it's the same type of jellyfish cowardice.

02:16:18.000 Again, what I'm trying to impart here to you is that it is instinctive.

02:16:22.000 It is automatic.

02:16:22.000 You have got to get in the mode.

02:16:25.000 I've got to be honest with you. 0.98

02:16:27.000 I'm actually attracted to charging up into a tower and killing a sniper. 0.84

02:16:31.000 I guess it's a warrior mentality. 0.80

02:16:36.000 I just don't understand.

02:16:38.000 And again, it's just normal to me.

02:16:39.000 I don't understand people being completely and totally cowardly.

02:16:45.000 Again, it's moral cowardice.

02:16:46.000 It's even worse than physical cowardice.

02:16:48.000 You know, in the face of physical adversity.

02:16:50.000 I don't know how police see corruption all around them and do nothing about it.

02:16:54.000 I don't know how Austin cops can go to somebody's house without a warrant and watch CPS for some crying blue-collar mother with her auto mechanic husband to sign over their baby because there were dirty dishes in the sink and it's all color of law and the cop sits there. 0.84

02:17:10.000 I've been there when this stuff's happened.

02:17:11.000 I've covered this.

02:17:12.000 Hospitals and houses and, you know, back when I had time to You know, fight that major issue. 1.00

02:17:16.000 I've gone and covered it, while a mother's sitting there crying and they're ordering her, and the cop reaches over and puts his hand on her neck and says, sign it, because he's so stupid he doesn't know he's acting like a Nazi pig. 0.99

02:17:28.000 Yeah, I mean, again, that is just cowardice. 1.00

02:17:30.000 And a coward dies a thousand deaths. 0.67

02:17:32.000 That's how this starts. 1.00

02:17:34.000 Cowards rationalize and make excuses to themselves. 0.94

02:17:37.000 Stop being evil, do what you should. 0.98

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02:22:07.000 You've got someone to blame You said one love One life, when it's one need.

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02:23:40.000 Have you come to raise the dead?

02:23:46.000 Have you come here to play Jesus to the lepers in your head? 1.00

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02:24:01.000 You gave me nothing now, it's all I got.

02:24:06.000 We're one, but we're not the same.

02:24:10.000 Well, we hurt each other, and we're doing it again.

02:24:15.000 You say love is a temple Love's the higher law Love is a temple Love's the higher law You ask me to enter Then you make me crawl And I can't be holdin' on To what you've got When all you've got is hurt One love One blood

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02:25:27.000 When you live in a society where you don't care about other people, where you're not involved against corruption, when you're not standing up for the weak, when you only care about yourself, things go downhill very, very fast.

02:25:42.000 I know there's a sinister, wicked, corrupt, sadistic, cold group of globalists turning the world into a prison and laughing at us with total hubris and arrogance, believing that we don't have a snowball's chance in Hades of defending them.

02:25:58.000 Of defending the people that are there that need to be defended. 0.96

02:26:04.000 Well, we do have a chance to defeat them.

02:26:06.000 We do have a chance to defend the weak and the meek. 1.00

02:26:11.000 We do have a chance to bring down the globalists.

02:26:14.000 Look, corruption is always going to be here, you know, until God comes and sorts it all out.

02:26:20.000 But we have a job.

02:26:23.000 We have a job to build a better world.

02:26:25.000 We have a job to have faith, to believe that we can affect change, and to stand up and defend the innocent.

02:26:32.000 I look at all these dead children in Lebanon, and I know that Israel staged all of this, and I know that it's only going to empower the radicals like a mosque. 0.99

02:26:40.000 And I know this is all part of the wartime escalation they need for the election coming up here and the ongoing weapon sales in the region.

02:26:47.000 And I've got to go public.

02:26:49.000 I've got to criticize what Israel's doing. 0.97

02:26:52.000 I've got to say that it's wrong.

02:26:54.000 And, you know, it's not in my Bible to worship Israel and do what the wicked leaders of Israel do, any more than it's in my Bible to worship George Bush or Bill Clinton or any of these people. 0.88

02:27:04.000 I go off the fruits of what they've done and what they're creating.

02:27:07.000 And we have a job, ladies and gentlemen, to stand up for the weak, and to resist tyranny, and to stand up against tyranny.

02:27:16.000 And we're going to do it.

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02:30:49.000 I'm going to play a short clip from 40 years ago.

02:30:52.000 Today, going on, it was going on at this time, right now a compilation of a newscast while Charles Whitman was on the tower shooting and killing 14 people, injuring 33.

02:31:04.000 Let's go ahead and roll that clip and we'll go right to your calls.

02:31:08.000 A Marine veteran who was an expert marksman shot and killed 10 unsuspecting noontime strollers on the University of Texas campus today and then he was cut down an hour and a half later by an Austin policeman.

02:31:19.000 When the shooting ended 30 others were seriously injured.

02:31:24.000 And then the bodies of the alleged sniper's mother and wife were found in his apartment, both dead.

02:31:28.000 The tally at this hour is 13 dead, 30 wounded, and that figure includes the death of the man police say did the shooting.

02:31:35.000 The sniper, identified as 24-year-old Charles J. Whitman, started shooting from the observation deck of the 27-story tall University Tower.

02:31:45.000 He fell moving targets blocks away.

02:31:47.000 A terror-filled 90 minutes started at 5 minutes before 12, Austin time, and it was 1.22 when policeman Ramiro Martinez shot Whitman.

02:31:56.000 Victims were cut down on the west and south sides of the campus as the sniper zeroed in on his targets with unerring accuracy.

02:32:03.000 Those who were felled with bullets from the high-caliber rifle were pulled to safety as soon as possible by officials and passers-by.

02:32:10.000 Others crouched in terror.

02:32:13.000 Heavily armed Austin police, sheriff's deputies, highway patrolmen, and Texas Rangers converged on the campus and began returning the sniper's fire.

02:32:23.000 But he was well entrenched and he had a fantastic vantage point of the entire area.

02:32:31.000 Reporter Charles Ward was on the scene as the gun battle raged.

02:32:34.000 He described what was happening and then interviewed a Vietnam veteran who risked his life to pull the victims to safety.

02:32:41.000 Ambulances screaming all over the city and more sound.

02:32:59.000 More shots being fired at the tower and the tower.

02:33:03.000 Thank you.

02:33:06.000 on the mall.

02:33:08.000 I'm going to take the department shells.

02:33:11.000 One of those who is out of breath now after running out onto the mall rescuing those who have been shot is Brian Ellison of Austin, who's been in Vietnam and has been back for two years.

02:33:33.000 Brian, how many have you gone out to rescue?

02:33:36.000 Today, two.

02:33:38.000 What did you have to do?

02:33:40.000 Move hard and keep it up.

02:33:42.000 Did you have any trouble getting them up, or did any shots come close to you while you were out there?

02:33:46.000 No shots came close to me, just the last one.

02:33:48.000 He was dead, he was dead weight.

02:33:51.000 He was a little hard to pick up, to limp.

02:33:54.000 Not like someone who's not dead.

02:33:56.000 How many have you seen that are dead today?

02:33:58.000 Just one.

02:34:00.000 I hope nine more.

02:34:02.000 But many of the victims could not be moved until after the sniper was gunned down.

02:34:06.000 And then the university students moved in to see what had happened.

02:34:10.000 One ambulance driver was shot and critically injured trying to haul the wounded to safety.

02:34:14.000 A policeman was killed as he moved in armed to try to get a sight on the sniper.

02:34:18.000 A University of Texas professor was killed as he walked to class.

02:34:22.000 The campus at one time looked like a battlefield.

02:34:24.000 Dead people were lying on the sidewalks, under 100 degree temperature, with police and others occasionally darting from cover to cover.

02:34:31.000 The sniper was well armed and apparently planned a long siege.

02:34:34.000 After he was cut down, police hauled out of the barricaded observation deck two 30-06 rifles with telescopic sights, a .357 Magnum pistol, and a shotgun.

02:34:44.000 He had two large jugs of water and a footlocker containing food and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

02:34:49.000 What caused the man to take the lives of so many and wound so many others on a hot summer day may be found in a letter discovered by the bodies of the alleged sniper's mother and wife late this afternoon.

02:35:01.000 The typed letter related Whitman's headaches and his plans to kill his mother and wife, and a grim notation on the message read, mother and wife, now dead, 3 a.m.

02:35:10.000 His wife was a biology teacher at an Austin high school.

02:35:13.000 The letter was typed last night.

02:35:15.000 This is Leland Spelce, reporting from Austin.

02:35:19.000 And again, talking to eyewitnesses, people who were there, you heard Ranger Ray earlier.

02:35:23.000 Most of the police were running in the other direction, leaving detectives and others, getting out of the university area.

02:35:31.000 And then that's when Ranger Ray got angry and decided to then have an Austin police officer go down there and do something about it himself.

02:35:39.000 And he was shocked to not find an assault team an hour plus into it not already being in the building.

02:35:44.000 Clearing it.

02:35:45.000 And the whole moral of this is the government can't and will not protect you.

02:35:50.000 They cannot do it.

02:35:51.000 They will not do it.

02:35:53.000 And you notice statistically that it's the ambulance drivers and men who worked at UT who are out there helping police officers and citizens that have been shot.

02:36:05.000 Not the police.

02:36:07.000 That is on the record.

02:36:09.000 Just like Columbine.

02:36:11.000 And there was a case, remember, three weeks ago?

02:36:13.000 Where in a grocery store, one of the employees, what was it?

02:36:17.000 Stabbed and killed.

02:36:18.000 One person stabbed like ten others.

02:36:20.000 I forget.

02:36:20.000 It was horrible.

02:36:22.000 And it was in the Associated Press that one of the managers was coming.

02:36:27.000 He had a gun in his car.

02:36:28.000 And he drew down on the guy with the knife.

02:36:30.000 I would have just blown him away.

02:36:31.000 And he dropped the knife and stopped it.

02:36:33.000 Though he was charging up about chasing out one of the employees still stabbing him.

02:36:38.000 I would have just blown him away.

02:36:39.000 Because he's a threat.

02:36:41.000 And then the police actually chastised him in the news, saying he shouldn't have done that, he put himself in danger.

02:36:48.000 Hey! 0.99

02:36:49.000 It's one thing for citizens not to put themselves in danger, that's cowardly.

02:36:53.000 It's even more cowardly to go get a paycheck, and a pension, and all of this stuff, and to not go into harm's way.

02:37:03.000 It's the same thing.

02:37:04.000 The military and the police didn't come to help in New Orleans, did they?

02:37:06.000 They came to take the guns.

02:37:08.000 And when thousands of firemen and police from around the country went there to go help people, they were told by FEMA, no, you can't help.

02:37:15.000 So that's the moral to this story.

02:37:19.000 All right, let's go ahead and go to the calls.

02:37:20.000 I've said enough on this subject, but it was a timely 40-year anniversary going on at this very same time.

02:37:26.000 I'll come out in a few minutes.

02:37:27.000 In fact, we're right around the time that Ray Martinez killed him.

02:37:31.000 All right, let's go ahead and take calls.

02:37:33.000 Vince in Chicago, thanks for holding.

02:37:35.000 You're on the air.

02:37:36.000 Hi Alex, I haven't spoken to you in a while.

02:37:38.000 I've been listening since about 1997, and I want to say God bless you for your work.

02:37:43.000 Thank you.

02:37:45.000 A lot of people have heard links of George Pappy Bush, our first Bush president, to the assassination of John F. Kennedy, I'm sure.

02:37:53.000 And I believe that that is the main reason why Pappy Bush was named CIA Director in 1975 to follow William Colby at that time.

02:38:02.000 Yeah, he was involved in the Bad Pigs, everything.

02:38:04.000 Bush was a big CIA operative right out of World War II.

02:38:07.000 Yeah, well, he allegedly never worked a day in his life for the CIA, yet he's named a director in 1975 to replace the very patriotic William Colby, who was murdered right after Oklahoma City.

02:38:17.000 But, um, do you remember that speech that George Bush made on September 11, 1990, exactly 11 years before the World Trade Center was destroyed.

02:38:27.000 We can see a new world order coming into view.

02:38:29.000 Yeah, a thousand points of light.

02:38:32.000 A thousand points of light.

02:38:33.000 A new world order.

02:38:35.000 Well, I always thought that was very esoteric, and I really didn't understand what the heck he was talking about.

02:38:39.000 That is in Luciferian Bibles.

02:38:42.000 That is extremely satanic.

02:38:44.000 Well, you know, I heard an audio link of John F. Kennedy about three or four days before he was assassinated, that he made the quote, I believe it was exactly something to the effect that he was going to break or smash the CIA into a thousand pieces.

02:39:00.000 Yes.

02:39:01.000 And I always kind of thought that that statement by George Pappy Bush was kind of a symbolic mockery of JFK's remarks.

02:39:09.000 I don't know, because I never quite understood it.

02:39:12.000 Did you know that a year after World Trade Center was destroyed on September 11, 2002, there was a certain memorial that they recreated in New York City to recreate the Twin Towers that were destroyed.

02:39:27.000 And you know what that memorial was?

02:39:30.000 Yes, they shot the light up and they said it was the thousand points of light.

02:39:33.000 Yeah, it was a thousand spotlights to recreate the The World Trade Center.

02:39:39.000 I just think that's another one of your esoteric fingerprints that these... Oh, they love it.

02:39:43.000 They love it.

02:39:44.000 I appreciate your call.

02:39:45.000 If you look at criminology, psychopaths, serial killers always leave little totems, little signets, little logos, little death cards.

02:39:54.000 And it's part of the psychology of these type of individuals.

02:39:59.000 Let's talk to Jason in Texas.

02:40:00.000 Jason, welcome.

02:40:02.000 Hey, Alex.

02:40:03.000 I just wanted to say that I have tickets to see your premiere.

02:40:07.000 Uh, I guess coming up in a couple weeks to speak to Airstorm.

02:40:10.000 Yes, are you going to the Dallas or the Austin premieres?

02:40:12.000 Yeah, the Dallas, the Dallas.

02:40:13.000 Can't wait to see you there!

02:40:14.000 Um, and also, I wanted to comment, um, I used to attend Ben Edwards University in Austin, and, uh, I was in a class called Mass Media Communications, and in that class, we actually watched Loose Change and a few other documentaries, and I have to say, the whole class was really into it, and, uh, I was pretty amazed once I learned more about it.

02:40:35.000 It's all because of people like you out there making copies of the videos.

02:40:39.000 It's everywhere.

02:40:40.000 Road to Tyranny, Martial Law, Loose Change 1 and 2.

02:40:43.000 I hope Terror Storm.

02:40:44.000 It's my best film.

02:40:45.000 I think it's the best film out there.

02:40:46.000 I hope everybody will get it and make copies and make sure that it becomes an important film.

02:40:51.000 Alright man, well I just want to say good job.

02:40:54.000 So I guess I'll see you at the premiere.

02:40:55.000 I appreciate it.

02:40:56.000 Yes, coming up on the 26th of August at the Lakewood Theater in Central Dallas right by White Rock Lake.

02:41:04.000 We will premiere the final official Terror Storm.

02:41:07.000 I will then give a speech and take questions.

02:41:09.000 Then for an hour, Jim Mars will speak from JFK to 9-11.

02:41:12.000 Then we'll show about 35-40 minutes from the best footage we got at the Bilderberg Group.

02:41:18.000 the up-close video of David Rockefeller and Queen Beatrix and others, the interviews with Jim Tucker, Daniel Estelon, and others.

02:41:27.000 And then for two hours we'll have some live music from 7.

02:41:32.000 The door is open at 7.

02:41:33.000 It starts at 7.30, and it goes until 2 a.m.

02:41:35.000 But you can come and just stay until midnight if you'd like or stay the entire time.

02:41:39.000 It's going to be fantastic.

02:41:40.000 Tickets are going quick at Infowars.com, or you can call toll-free to get them.

02:41:44.000 1-888-253-3139.

02:41:47.000 And lest I not forget, in this last push, there's been a huge push all over the web on hundreds of radio talk shows, people calling in, telling them to tune in to C-SPAN this afternoon, 5.15 Central, 6.15 Eastern, 4.15 Mountain, 3.15 5.15 Central, 6.15 Eastern, 4.15 Mountain, 3.15 Pacific, and to tune in to the final airing of the 9-11 Neocon Agenda.

02:42:10.000 roundtable panel discussion.

02:42:12.000 It was amazing.

02:42:13.000 And while you're at it, make a VHS, make a DVD copy, record it, and give that one copy to somebody.

02:42:19.000 Or make a copy and make a bunch of copies from that and give it to people.

02:42:22.000 Again, this is exponential.

02:42:23.000 It may be a little too late to go email everybody They may not read it the next few hours, but go to the message boards one more time.

02:42:31.000 Visit three or four message boards.

02:42:32.000 Post on them to tell everybody to tune in to C-SPAN tonight, to tell doubters and people that don't know about 9-11 or haven't heard all these experts speak on it.

02:42:40.000 It was a powerful, compelling panel.

02:42:43.000 And again, you can go to c-span.org right now and watch the panel via the internet, but it's never as good.

02:42:49.000 It's a little bandwidth what they've got.

02:42:51.000 It's never as good as actually watching it on television.

02:42:53.000 Soon it will be though with increased bandwidth power.

02:42:57.000 With the connectivity of the web growing.

02:43:00.000 So that is coming up.

02:43:01.000 Please tell everyone.

02:43:03.000 Continue to call into radio talk shows on Patriot Radio Networks, on Truth Networks.

02:43:07.000 on mainstream outlets everywhere.

02:43:10.000 But the key is the message boards.

02:43:12.000 Go to the big message boards right now and tell everybody to tune into that immediately.

02:43:16.000 Right now, let's talk to Tom.

02:43:18.000 And Tom, where are you calling us from today?

02:43:21.000 I'm calling from Mississippi.

02:43:23.000 Welcome.

02:43:23.000 I just want to say it's an honor to talk to you, sir.

02:43:27.000 I woke up a couple years ago and stumbled across your website and I want to tell you I appreciate the documentation and the reference sources that you've given me to do my own research.

02:43:40.000 I have two questions for you.

02:43:42.000 Sure.

02:43:43.000 One of the questions is, is there any way that we can get a copy of the petition you used for your City Council to revoke the Patriot Act that you did there in Austin?

02:43:57.000 Well, you know, I developed that idea and it got picked up by a lot of great minds and last time I checked it was 500, 600 something cities.

02:44:03.000 The media still says 400 something, but I've seen the list.

02:44:06.000 I think it's around 600.

02:44:08.000 Five states have done it, several others are considering it.

02:44:11.000 But yeah, you can type in repeal the Patriot Act resolution, Alex Jones into Google, or you'll get other resolutions.

02:44:18.000 My resolution was only passed By four or five towns that I know of.

02:44:24.000 Austin didn't pass my resolution, though my resolution, parts of it were used and put into a watered-down resolution that was passed and I did with you, the listeners in Texas, in Austin.

02:44:37.000 We did spearhead overturning it here in Austin, but there are a lot of good versions out there on the web and it's a great idea.

02:44:46.000 Also, I watched the C-SPAN the other night.

02:44:49.000 I watched it both Saturday night and Sunday and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

02:44:53.000 I had one question and I'll let you go, of course.

02:44:56.000 Webster Tarpley talked about Bush having a high state of alert for the United States on a nuclear alert before the buildings were done.

02:45:07.000 Is there any way where I can find that?

02:45:10.000 See, everybody that I talk to, they always say, well, are you just repeating what somebody's telling you, or have you personally seen this documentation?

02:45:17.000 Yes, we know that the country was on a high state of alert and had the nuclear strategic air command in the air and the submarines on alert.

02:45:24.000 I don't have the news articles in front of me, but you can find that with the searches, and it's on all the big 9-11 sites.

02:45:29.000 You can find it.

02:45:30.000 I mean, there are 9-11 sites with tens of thousands of documents and articles and research analysis.

02:45:34.000 I mean, it's just unbelievable.

02:45:37.000 And then it's also well known that we're running all those drills that day.

02:45:40.000 That's been everywhere from USA Today to... I mean, if you watch my films, Martial Law or Terror Storm or Road to Tyranny, we show all these news articles and documents in the films.

02:45:50.000 Right.

02:45:51.000 And so you can sit there with it on your television set, pausing the DVD or the VHS tape, then type in the headline names into the search engine and pull them up as you go.

02:46:01.000 Take MartialLaw911.info.

02:46:04.000 But a listener built a beautiful site they built that I don't promote properly.

02:46:08.000 If you go to that site, every single document and article in the film, he went through, a great fellow from Michigan, went through and found every document, every article, and put them according to time code in the exact second and area they appear in the film.

02:46:22.000 Thank you for the call.

02:46:24.000 Marshalllaw911.info.

02:46:26.000 If you missed that web address, you go to AmericanScholarSymposium.org.

02:46:30.000 There's a big link to it on the left-hand side, and there's links on InfoWars.com.

02:46:34.000 All right, let's go ahead and talk to William in Georgia.

02:46:40.000 You're on the air, William.

02:46:41.000 Hey, it's good talking to you, buddy.

02:46:43.000 I just want to bring up the Egyptian mysteries and see what you have to say about that, because in my opinion, that's the biggest driving force of this entire agenda.

02:46:52.000 Yes, our ruling elite.

02:46:53.000 I mean, it's mainstream news that Tony Blair, everywhere he goes, engages in bizarre, occultic rituals from Asia to Latin America.

02:47:02.000 He was in Northern California sneaking around the last few days.

02:47:05.000 Now he's in L.A.

02:47:06.000 The reports are he was at Bohemian Grove meeting with George Shultz.

02:47:10.000 I don't even know.

02:47:11.000 It's so big.

02:47:12.000 The Egyptian mysteries are the entire thing.

02:47:14.000 Chancellor Helmut Schmidt wrote his own autobiography written by Helmut Schmidt saying he engages in satanic rituals at the Bohemian Grove.

02:47:20.000 He says he loves the druidic rituals they carry out there.

02:47:23.000 He says they have their own rituals in Germany, but his favorite place, he's dead now, to conduct them is the Grove.

02:47:28.000 So we're just reporting the news here.

02:47:30.000 I don't even know.

02:47:33.000 It's so big.

02:47:36.000 The Egyptian mysteries are the entire thing.

02:47:38.000 It's not just corruption.

02:47:39.000 It's a driving force.

02:47:41.000 And what they want is a 500 million population on this planet.

02:47:44.000 Georgia Guidestones, you're right there by them.

02:47:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:48.000 I mean, that's the RC Christian, it's the Rose Cross. 0.96

02:47:51.000 I mean, it's ridiculous. 0.99

02:47:52.000 It's right in your face. 0.99

02:47:54.000 And, I mean, you know.

02:47:56.000 In your face is the key. 0.96

02:47:58.000 They're putting HIV in the blood knowingly and killing hundreds of thousands conservatively in your face. 0.99

02:48:03.000 Sterilizing people, giving people syphilis in your face. 0.99

02:48:08.000 Radioactive testing on the troops and nerve gassing troops and killing them in your face. 0.99

02:48:12.000 Leaving POWs behind and not even caring in your face. 0.98

02:48:15.000 Carrying out 9-11 in your face.

02:48:17.000 American Union being set up in your face.

02:48:20.000 Writing autobiographies saying that they worship the devil in your face, knowing the general public doesn't read autobiographies by German chancellors.

02:48:27.000 Thanks for the call.

02:48:29.000 Jeff and Tennessee and others, final calls on the other side of this quick break.

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02:51:54.000 Get your tickets quick for the Dallas premiere of Terror Storm the 26th of August.

02:51:59.000 Then in early September we're going to have five showings.

02:52:01.000 Those tickets are already on sale and going fast.

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02:52:08.000 And Terror Storm will not have a big effect, will not expose the New World Order, will not be seen by those that need to see it unless you get it and make copies of it.

02:52:15.000 So again, I'm asking you to help save this country and use Terror Storm. 0.79

02:52:19.000 And I beat my brains out making to wake people up.

02:52:23.000 Let's talk to Jeff in Tennessee.

02:52:25.000 Jeff, you're on the air.

02:52:26.000 Alex, first time caller.

02:52:28.000 Pleasure.

02:52:28.000 Welcome, thank you.

02:52:30.000 I work at a great company where we have the privilege of having a speaker come in every Wednesday for a devotional or a musician.

02:52:38.000 And last week, a gentleman came in who is the National Senior Advisor to the Presidential Prayer Committee.

02:52:45.000 And he gave a great message, and that was great, but then, you know, we had the Bush lovers Asked questions at the end, and one gentleman asked, well, what's it like to pray with the President, and what's his spiritual life like?

02:52:58.000 And this guy pretty much paused for about what seemed like forever, shook his head, and said, well, I can't talk about a lot of things, but let's just say that if things aren't changed quickly, America is in big, big trouble.

02:53:13.000 And that was just interesting to hear that.

02:53:16.000 And then I went up to him afterwards, And asked him about the FEMA plan with the pastors and Romans 13 and what he thought about that.

02:53:24.000 And once again, he shook his head and just pretty much said, pacifist.

02:53:28.000 That's, you know, and so he knows what's going on.

02:53:33.000 It's just, it was just interesting to hear what he had to say.

02:53:35.000 That's amazing.

02:53:37.000 Anything else?

02:53:39.000 No, that's all I got.

02:53:40.000 Thank you.

02:53:40.000 First time caller, Jeff from Tennessee.

02:53:42.000 Good to have you on board.

02:53:43.000 Again, I cannot stress enough how important it is.

02:53:46.000 We should also call C-SPAN.

02:53:48.000 And thank them for the airings that they have had, and ask them to air it again, maybe, this weekend, or ask them to have myself, or Webster Tarpley, or Professor Jones, or somebody else on Washington Journal.

02:54:01.000 That needs to happen, so everybody call them.

02:54:03.000 I meant to say that earlier.

02:54:05.000 Let's talk to Linda in New York. 0.98

02:54:06.000 Linda, go ahead. 1.00

02:54:07.000 Hi, Alex.

02:54:08.000 I just want to thank you, and I also am a new listener.

02:54:12.000 I just had two comments, main comments.

02:54:15.000 One is about the Internet.

02:54:18.000 I have noticed that AOL has been removing posts when we have been talking about the real stuff that's happening.

02:54:25.000 MySpace Bulletin is down currently, where I have put a bulletin for watching C-SPAN.

02:54:32.000 Um, so I know that there's something definitely going on where, and some people who may well have told me that, uh... Oh, there are a lot of even, quote, liberal and, and, and patriotic libertarian sites that do not allow 9-11 posting.

02:54:45.000 They'll allow anything else, but don't post about 9-11.

02:54:48.000 That's because they know the truth's coming out, so intensify your efforts.

02:54:52.000 I, I definitely am trying.

02:54:53.000 Another thing I have a comment about is the Patriot Act 2.

02:54:56.000 Of all the things that are really, uh, really scary that are going on in the world right now, I think for us Americans, the scariest thing is this Patriot Act, too.

02:55:06.000 And considering that these people go to the Bohemian Grove, I know Ralph Nader said that it's definitely a big conflict of interest why these people are going there.

02:55:14.000 And also, anyone that has any type of celebrity status that do listen to your show, I urge them, I urge them to speak out.

02:55:26.000 One day... Yeah, right now, right now.

02:55:28.000 And listen, I appreciate your call.

02:55:30.000 We're out of time.

02:55:30.000 Sorry to Jim and others.

02:55:31.000 Yeah, one day they're going to be in big trouble if they don't.

02:55:34.000 I'll just say it.

02:55:34.000 The Dixie Chicks know all about 9-11.

02:55:37.000 The Dixie Chicks have seen my films. 0.84

02:55:39.000 The Dixie Chicks have already gone public and even sold more records after they did. 0.51

02:55:44.000 And I think they really should go public.

02:55:47.000 And I know so many other people that know all about 9-11.

02:55:49.000 I mean, we know who they are.

02:55:51.000 Mel Gibson's one of them.

02:55:55.000 Not going to say any more.

02:55:56.000 And they just need to, of course, look at that whole setup with him.

02:55:59.000 Now the police are saying he wasn't rude and didn't do all that. 0.99

02:56:02.000 I smell a big, fat, stinking rat in that whole thing. 0.99

02:56:04.000 Alright, I'm out of time. 0.98

02:56:06.000 I'm sorry, Linda.

02:56:06.000 I'm sorry, Jim.

02:56:07.000 Everybody else holding.

02:56:08.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:09.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2 central time.

02:56:11.000 Tell everybody about the broadcast.

02:56:12.000 It's up to you to get the truth out, and you're doing a great job.

02:56:15.000 That's why the worm is turning.

02:56:17.000 Get out there and take on the new world order.

02:56:18.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - August 01, 2006

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