Alex Jones Show - 20060802_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

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00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:40.000 Thank you so much for joining us on this live Wednesday edition, the second day of August 2006.

00:00:48.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:54.000 We have Ralph Shoman joining us.

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00:01:04.000 He has lived in Palestinian refugee camps and he'll be giving us a eyewitness view of exactly the type of things that go on over there on a regular basis coming up in the second hour today.

00:01:20.000 Israel has launched its deepest Lebanon strikes yet. 0.82

00:01:25.000 This is from the Associated Press.

00:01:26.000 Israel launched It's deepest ground strike into Lebanon on Wednesday, claiming it killed 10 Hezbollah guerrillas and captured 5 in the northeast city of Balabeck, if I'm pronouncing that right, while nearby air raids killed at least 15 civilians.

00:01:43.000 So, that means that Israel has ground forces now in the northeast of Lebanon.

00:01:53.000 Amazing, and so they're talking about going all the way up to the border of Syria, obviously Syria now yesterday going to its highest alert and saying prepare for battle.

00:02:03.000 Israeli war planes attacked a Lebanese army base in the southern part of the country, killing three soldiers, a security official said.

00:02:09.000 Hezbollah guerrillas hit back, firing at least 150 rockets at towns across northern Israel, killing one person and wounding at least 17.

00:02:17.000 Israeli police stated more on this after the break on what the Israelis are doing in the Hezbollah bombardment.

00:02:23.000 It's puny as usual.

00:02:26.000 Iran is saying it will not bow to threats in its nuclear standoff.

00:02:31.000 Ahmadinejad is saying, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed last night that Iran will not bow to the language of force and threats a day after UN Security Council ordered the country to halt sensitive nuclear work.

00:02:46.000 The big news, a 9-11 panel suspected deception by the Pentagon.

00:02:51.000 This is from the Washington Post.

00:02:53.000 Allegations brought to Inspector General.

00:02:56.000 They were considering criminal charges for cover-ups.

00:02:59.000 That grabs your attention, and then you find out what the supposed sensitive info in the cover-up is, and it's that the Pentagon and NORAD screwed up on 9-11.

00:03:11.000 No, they didn't screw up and now they've released more of the NORAD tapes.

00:03:16.000 There were literally hundreds of hours from all the different NORAD bases and FAA bases.

00:03:22.000 Thousands of feet of tape and digital recordings were ordered, destroyed, and put in different waste paper baskets.

00:03:29.000 And so, now almost five years later, they release this new little bunching of tidbits, these little giblets.

00:03:38.000 Oh, we've been caught covering up!

00:03:39.000 And then you find out the cover-up is they screwed up!

00:03:42.000 So, see, they're falling back on that. 1.00

00:03:44.000 And they even say in the Washington Post and Vanity Fair articles today on this subject that Oh, well this is why the conspiracy theorists think the government did it, but now the tapes released show the government didn't do it, it just shows that they're a bunch of idiots. 0.98

00:03:59.000 And it was easy to predict they would do this as we continued to expose their criminal activities on 9-11. 0.98

00:04:05.000 This is the same government that releases fake cell phone calls that are impossible.

00:04:10.000 from the supposed hijacked planes, the same government that releases fake fat bin laden videotapes and re-edits old bin laden videotapes, the same people that plant fake news in the tune of billions of dollars in our media.

00:04:25.000 So we'll get into that and play some clips from the News Select.

00:04:31.000 They released just Maybe 15 minutes of tapes of the hundreds of hours of chatter they've got.

00:04:38.000 They've selectively grabbed NORAD controllers who weren't part of the 9-11 attacks, who are confused, who think it's part of a, quote, exercise.

00:04:46.000 But there is the discussions of the CIA NORAD exercises hidden in plain view, which do point towards government involvement, but the media is in overdrive, spinning all of this.

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00:08:07.000 I Alright, thank you for joining us.

00:08:12.000 Ralph Shoman, who's lived in the Palestinian refugee camp, has been under bombardment, who has witnessed the civilians being deliberately targeted, will be joining us coming up in the second hour.

00:08:25.000 In the third hour today, I'm going to play the complete NORAD clips I guess it's about 15 minutes or so.

00:08:34.000 I'm going to attempt to play all of those in the third hour and a more balanced interview that a local television station up in Minnesota did with Kevin Barrett, the Wisconsin professor who they're trying to drum out of his professorship to create a chilling effect to set the precedent the Wisconsin professor who they're trying to drum out of his professorship to create a chilling effect to set the precedent to fire anyone that

00:09:01.000 So the third hour is going to be very important, and we'll intersperse those clips with your calls.

00:09:07.000 There is a huge whitewash going on right now with the federal government releasing very select clips from NORAD.

00:09:18.000 Remember there's NORAD bases and FAA bases and communications with NORAD all over the country.

00:09:24.000 They ordered hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of tapes and digital recordings to be destroyed, which was illegal, and to break them up and put them in different pieces and different waste paper baskets.

00:09:35.000 That's the memos.

00:09:36.000 They ordered the data recorders, the flight recorders that were found at all the crash sites to be hidden, and those that found them in the rescue teams to shut up and not to tell anyone that they saw them.

00:09:51.000 They have produced fake cell phone calls, which are clearly fake from some of the aircraft.

00:09:58.000 The same folks that again bring you the fat Bin Laden, and they did a voice print, it isn't Bin Laden, taking credit for 9-11.

00:10:04.000 It's the same government that spent $1.6 billion illegally in the last two years on fake newscasts, and $118 million separately with the Pentagon, with fake letters to the editor.

00:10:16.000 $118 million dollar program for fake Letters to the editor.

00:10:22.000 Okay, so we have a government, and I could go on for hours listing all the examples of the lies, the propaganda, premeditatedly lying to you.

00:10:31.000 Well, I've listened to these tapes, and a few of these clips had already actually been released.

00:10:34.000 Vanity Fair is claiming this is all brand new.

00:10:36.000 One of the clips is actually in my film, Martial Law, but now they've released more of the, in total, hundreds of hours, because you've got NORAD and FAA discussions going on for three hours total.

00:10:48.000 during the attacks and in the aftermath and again hundreds of different installations so it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours and so they take a few clips from real installations that are confused that don't know what's going on that think it's quote part of the CIA drills part of the NORAD drills and uh... who are confused and then they announce the headline oh people covered up at the pentagon NORAD covered up how they screwed up we're considering criminal charges

00:11:17.000 And now they'll probably at least discuss or maybe even haul up a few low-level NORAD controllers who were compartmentalized and didn't know this was being orchestrated from the bowels of the private-slash-corporate government intelligence agencies.

00:11:33.000 And this just happens over and over again.

00:11:35.000 It's like the Abu Ghraib torture and the torture going on in all those other camps in Iraq.

00:11:40.000 Every wing where the torture was going on, regular military officers weren't allowed in those areas.

00:11:44.000 Private contractors and CIA slash Mossad controllers, this is all admitted now, would control military police who had been specifically hired out of U.S.

00:11:56.000 prisons who'd been fired for torturing, raping, and abusing.

00:11:59.000 That's mainstream news.

00:12:01.000 Washington Post, you name it.

00:12:03.000 They go hire sickos off their files, they bring them there, they do all this torture, and then when it starts coming out, General Janice Karpinski, who didn't go along with it, they try to burn her and blame her with it, knowing then when she gets investigated, she'll be found not guilty, because of course she knew nothing about it, as she testified on this broadcast when she first went public, what, six months ago or so, that she wasn't even allowed in the wings of those prisons!

00:12:29.000 So, they'll try to burn some innocent NORAD employees and some innocent military people. 0.94

00:12:34.000 They'll try to... it's just so sick!

00:12:36.000 And then, oh yeah, no wonder the conspiracy theorists thought it was an inside job, because NORAD screwed up so bad.

00:12:44.000 Vanity Fair and the Washington Post are saying, this explains... the public can't believe it took hours and hours to get planes up, but now this explains it all.

00:12:54.000 Oh, now we understand!

00:12:55.000 Now it's all explained!

00:12:58.000 And they even say in one of these articles that this is being released for the conspiracy theorists, because we're gaining so much ground!

00:13:05.000 Lee Hamilton is in a major newspaper newswire yesterday, one of the chairmen of the 9-11 whitewash commission, saying that he's surprised that so many people think it's an inside job, and that it is spreading, and that And that there's all-time mistrust of the government, and they've got a real problem!

00:13:24.000 You bet you do!

00:13:25.000 You bet you've got a real problem, buddy!

00:13:30.000 Alright, so, that's all coming up.

00:13:32.000 In the third hour, I will play all of the FAA tapes they've released.

00:13:36.000 We have links to them up on...

00:13:38.000 Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com right now on the Vanity Fair article, but we'll play them here on air in the third hour.

00:13:43.000 Right now, before I get into more detail on this and read part of the Vanity Fair article and the Washington Post headline, 9-11 panel, suspected deception by Pentagon, before we do that, let's go ahead and roll the first three minutes that they have released.

00:13:59.000 Here it is.

00:13:59.000 What?

00:14:03.000 Oh! 0.60

00:14:04.000 Can you guys feed that to me so I can hear it, please?

00:14:07.000 Stop there.

00:14:07.000 Stop.

00:14:08.000 Stop right now.

00:14:09.000 Let's start over because I need to add this to begin with.

00:14:14.000 I need to add something here at the start to begin with.

00:14:16.000 You notice here that, what is it, three separate times, just in the first few minutes, they keep saying, is this part of an exercise?

00:14:23.000 Is this real world?

00:14:24.000 Is this the exercise?

00:14:25.000 Is this real?

00:14:27.000 And then all throughout this, it takes them a long time to figure out, because the CIA, through the Pentagon, Protective Service, was running a drill of hijacked jets flying in to the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, CIA headquarters, White House, and Capitol Hill.

00:14:45.000 Now imagine, the biggest war game of its type ever, at that exact same time that morning, Same thing in Oklahoma City.

00:14:54.000 BATF is running a drill of the building being bombed as it happens.

00:14:58.000 Police and FBI on record.

00:15:01.000 That is in major newspapers, LA Times, Daily Oklahoma.

00:15:03.000 It's in my films.

00:15:06.000 Running drills at the exact same time the Alfred P. Murrah building is bombed on April 19th at 9.01 a.m.

00:15:12.000 in 1995, 11 years ago.

00:15:17.000 We expand from there.

00:15:18.000 We have the advisor consultants with the former head of Scotland Yard that heads it up, Peter Power, being hired to run drills.

00:15:27.000 Being hired to run drills at the exact same train stations at the exact same time that they were bombed.

00:15:34.000 Now we did a mathematical equation on that with one of our people that we work with who It does actuaries for insurance companies.

00:15:42.000 And it is multiple Trechor-Gillions.

00:15:46.000 What is it?

00:15:47.000 43-something Trechor-Gillion.

00:15:48.000 Trechor-Gillion, ladies and gentlemen, has 43 zeros.

00:15:52.000 It's totally impossible.

00:15:55.000 And then on 9-11, of course, this happened.

00:15:58.000 And this happened.

00:15:58.000 So in the Bali bombing, the military forces were doing, quote, drills.

00:16:03.000 And now it's come out in Australian papers that the government supplied the bombs.

00:16:06.000 It's the same story every single time.

00:16:10.000 Madrid bombing, same thing.

00:16:12.000 Running anti-terror drills at the time that the trains get blown up.

00:16:15.000 It's always drills!

00:16:17.000 Because that's the cover.

00:16:19.000 In case other police agencies or other compartments that aren't terrorists, the majority of our police and military, catch them in the act, oh, it's just part of the drill.

00:16:27.000 Like when the FSB Federal Security Bureau in 1999 was caught inside of a fourth Moscow suburb apartment building.

00:16:40.000 Moscow police caught two members of the FSB and three guys in a car outside planting hexogen military grade explosives on the pillars.

00:16:49.000 They arrested them, and Putin ordered their release as Vice President and said it was just a drill.

00:16:56.000 It's always a drill!

00:16:59.000 So let's go ahead and play the first three minutes.

00:17:01.000 Here it is.

00:17:05.000 What?

00:17:07.000 What was that?

00:17:08.000 It's not a real world.

00:17:10.000 I don't know what was I doing.

00:17:16.000 Cool.

00:17:17.000 Real?

00:17:19.000 I'm getting reports from my trade cousin that there might be a possible hijack.

00:17:23.000 I'm getting reports from my trade company.

00:17:33.000 I'm just hearing the same thing.

00:17:35.000 We're working on it right now.

00:17:36.000 Okay, thanks.

00:17:37.000 Bye.

00:17:38.000 Is he inbound, too?

00:17:46.000 We don't know.

00:17:47.000 You don't know where he is at all?

00:17:50.000 He's being hijacked.

00:17:51.000 The pilot's having a hard time talking to the... I mean, we don't know.

00:17:54.000 We don't know where he's going.

00:17:56.000 He's heading towards Kennedy.

00:17:58.000 He's, uh, like I said, he's like 35 miles north of Kennedy now at 367 knots.

00:18:02.000 Okay.

00:18:02.000 No idea where he's going.

00:18:04.000 If you could please give us a call and let us know, uh, you know, any information, that would be great.

00:18:09.000 Okay.

00:18:10.000 Right now, I guess we're There's been one, I'm sorry.

00:18:15.000 We'll call you right back as soon as we have more info.

00:18:20.000 Thank you.

00:18:20.000 There's going to be no more info.

00:18:21.000 Thank you.

00:18:22.000 Okay.

00:18:23.000 Okay, you guys, let's go to the car kit.

00:18:27.000 I've never seen so much real-world stuff happen during an exercise.

00:18:35.000 MCC, I don't know where I'm scrambling these guys to.

00:18:43.000 I need a direction, a destination.

00:18:46.000 Okay, I'm going to give you a Z point.

00:18:50.000 It's just north of New York City.

00:18:52.000 I got this lat, long, 41, 15, 74, 36, or 73, 46.

00:18:54.000 Head them in that direction.

00:18:55.000 436 or 73 46.

00:18:58.000 Head them in that direction.

00:18:59.000 Copy that.

00:19:01.000 Hi, sir.

00:19:08.000 Okay, what we're doing, we're trying to locate this guy.

00:19:11.000 We can't find him via IFF.

00:19:12.000 What we're going to do, we're going to hit up every track within a 25 mile radius of the Z point that we put on the scope.

00:19:19.000 29,000 heading 190.

00:19:20.000 And we're just going to do, we're going to try to find this guy.

00:19:24.000 They can't find him.

00:19:25.000 He's not down there.

00:19:27.000 He's been supposedly stretched in the cockpit.

00:19:30.000 So we're just, uh, we're doing the thing.

00:19:32.000 Hi.

00:19:35.000 We'll come back.

00:19:37.000 Now, did you hear that?

00:19:37.000 Did you hear one of the controllers say, I've never seen so much real world during an exercise?

00:19:46.000 That's because during these classified exercises, they have actual government operatives onboard planes who go through the motions of hijacking the aircraft.

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00:23:59.000 Over and over again on these tapes, the government released a vanity fair, their little buddy, in the last few weeks.

00:24:14.000 you They say, is this real world or part of the exercise?

00:24:19.000 Is this the exercise?

00:24:21.000 Is this the exercise?

00:24:22.000 And I have another FAA tape where they're saying, is this part of the exercise?

00:24:27.000 No, this is real world.

00:24:31.000 Dick Cheney the entire time was in control of those exercises, and he'd taken the power June 1st, a few months before 9-11, away.

00:24:39.000 Excuse me, June 3rd.

00:24:42.000 He had taken the power away for the first time since NORAD was set up in 1957 from the generals, from the admirals, from the colonels, so they couldn't shoot down planes.

00:24:53.000 And so now they've gotten a few clips of a few NORAD controllers, they're all over the country, and a few FAA controllers having conversations Back and forth with each other about trying to get fighters to scramble.

00:25:05.000 Well, the fighters were standing down, and those that were launched were ordered to fly at stall speed, what 360-something miles an hour for an F-16.

00:25:15.000 This is all on the record!

00:25:18.000 But they know the general public isn't going to research this in depth enough.

00:25:21.000 They know the general public now knows that something's wrong with the official story.

00:25:24.000 So what do they do?

00:25:25.000 They just, oh, there was a major cover-up!

00:25:27.000 We considered criminal charges, but we didn't charge anybody, nor out of the FAA, for covering up how they screwed up!

00:25:37.000 So let's play from the middle of that first clip again, where one of the NORAD controllers is there talking about, I've never seen so much real world during an exercise.

00:25:48.000 Like, I can't believe there's all these real hijacked planes and we're running an exercise of this same thing happening.

00:25:55.000 Go ahead and roll it.

00:25:59.000 I've never seen so much real world stuff happen during an exercise.

00:26:06.000 Can you play that one more time for us?

00:26:08.000 MCC, I don't know where I'm scrambling these guys to.

00:26:11.000 Stuff happened during an exercise.

00:26:16.000 Again, this, I can't believe this.

00:26:18.000 Yeah, yeah, play it again.

00:26:25.000 I've never seen so much real world stuff happen during an exercise.

00:26:30.000 And we're going to play everything they've released in the third hour.

00:26:34.000 I don't know where I'm scrambling these guys to.

00:26:36.000 I need a direction, a destination.

00:26:39.000 Okay, I'm going to give you a Z point.

00:26:43.000 It's just north of New York City.

00:26:45.000 I got this lat long 41-15-74-36 or 73-46.

00:26:46.000 Head them in that direction.

00:26:47.000 174 36 or 73 46 head them in that direction copy that unbelievable Hi sir.

00:27:01.000 Okay, what we're doing, we're trying to locate this guy.

00:27:04.000 We can't find him via IFF.

00:27:05.000 What we're going to do, we're going to hit up every track within a 25 mile radius of the Z point that we put on the scope.

00:27:12.000 29,000 heading 190.

00:27:13.000 We're just going to do, we're going to try to find this guy.

00:27:17.000 They can't find him.

00:27:18.000 He's not down north.

00:27:20.000 There's been totally, there's threats in the cockpit.

00:27:23.000 So we're just, we're doing the thing.

00:27:25.000 That's true.

00:27:29.000 And probably right now, with what's going on in the cockpit, it's probably going to be crazy.

00:27:34.000 So that will simmer down and we'll probably get some better information.

00:27:39.000 Folks, inside of these passenger jetliners, inside the mechanical guts, are the transponders that give each blip on the radar screen a number. are the transponders that give each blip on the radar However, But simultaneously all four transponders turned off with military coordination.

00:28:05.000 Something that I've been told by pilots that most pilots don't even know how to turn their transponders off.

00:28:11.000 I mean it's built in.

00:28:12.000 It's fail safe.

00:28:15.000 And then, why couldn't they continue to track the planes from the time their transponders went off?

00:28:21.000 Because there were, in some cases, over 45 other blips superimposed on their screens as part of the exercise.

00:28:35.000 Decoys everywhere.

00:28:36.000 So I will repeat.

00:28:40.000 When Russian FSB was caught planting bombs in a fourth building, they were going to blow up.

00:28:44.000 They'd blown up three.

00:28:46.000 Members of FSB have now gone public and high-level government officials have gone public that Putin, to win the presidency and to have a police state crackdown, was blowing up buildings all over Russia.

00:28:56.000 When they were caught by Moscow police planting the bombs, they said it was part of an exercise.

00:29:02.000 Same thing on 7-7.

00:29:04.000 An exercise of the exact same places, exact same times, being Bombed.

00:29:11.000 Impossible.

00:29:12.000 Same thing on 9-11.

00:29:14.000 Same thing Oklahoma City.

00:29:16.000 The same M.O., the same handbook is used by these intelligence agencies.

00:29:24.000 Period.

00:29:26.000 And then they go, oh there's a major cover-up.

00:29:28.000 9-11 panel suspected deception by Pentagon.

00:29:28.000 That's the headline.

00:29:32.000 Allegations brought to Inspector General.

00:29:35.000 And then hidden in plain view They're talking about these exercises.

00:29:40.000 Will the public be sophisticated enough to get it, is the question.

00:29:45.000 More on this and all that's happening in Israel with a huge escalation into World War III, possibly, when we get back.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:53.000 The empire's on the run.

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00:33:17.000 Coming up in a few minutes, I'm going to get into 9-11 panels, suspected deception by Pentagon, allegations brought to Inspector General.

00:33:25.000 They considered criminal charges.

00:33:29.000 And Vanity Fair is putting out the same whitewash.

00:33:33.000 You see, the government knows they've lost all credibility.

00:33:35.000 And they also know that people inside the government who weren't part of the attacks, but now are very suspicious because of what they witnessed that day at NORAD, with the drills of the exact same targets being hit at the exact same time, they have to put something out that will sound like they're in trouble, sound like they've been caught in something.

00:33:52.000 Oh, you're right!

00:33:53.000 You caught me!

00:33:55.000 I screwed up! 1.00

00:33:55.000 I'm an idiot! 1.00

00:33:57.000 I didn't mean to kill her! 1.00

00:33:59.000 I accidentally shot her twice in the head. 1.00

00:34:01.000 You know, the same stuff criminals tell investigators. 0.97

00:34:04.000 This is just on a wider, bigger scale.

00:34:06.000 That's coming up.

00:34:08.000 Israel has launched its deepest Lebanon strike yet. 0.54

00:34:11.000 Really escalating things.

00:34:13.000 They are now all the way up into the north of the country with ground forces.

00:34:17.000 This is unbelievable.

00:34:20.000 They're trying to provoke World War III, my friends, along with Bush and the British and others.

00:34:26.000 And we'll get into that more later and take your phone calls.

00:34:30.000 And Ralph Shoman is joining us the next hour.

00:34:32.000 He's lived in the refugee camps with the Palestinians and others.

00:34:36.000 And we'll just wait until I get to his bio, the things he's witnessed in his life.

00:34:40.000 It's extremely historical and riveting.

00:34:43.000 And in the third hour, I'm going to play about 15 minutes.

00:34:46.000 I'm going to play the entirety of what the government's released of the NORAD tapes.

00:34:51.000 I heard here for the first time on the radio and several other audio clips as well.

00:34:55.000 Kevin Barrett on a television show where he was really actually able to get some information out about 9-11 being an inside job instead of being screamed at by Sean Hannity.

00:35:04.000 That is coming up in the third hour and we'll have open phones then as well too.

00:35:08.000 But right now, I am honored to be joined by Marty.

00:35:13.000 Marty, of course, is the second generation.

00:35:16.000 His son now runs the company with him.

00:35:18.000 Marty's father, back in 1947, almost 60 years ago, it'll be 60 years in a few months, set up an organic soap company.

00:35:26.000 And it's made in America, right there in Oakland, California.

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00:35:33.000 And you know, I've only pushed stuff I believe in.

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00:35:40.000 My staff, All has it.

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00:35:44.000 We use it in the office.

00:35:45.000 And every day now, you hear callers calling going, I just want to say that I got it and it's so amazing and I'm saving money and you can leave it under your arms when you're washing with it and it doesn't burn you.

00:35:56.000 It doesn't have detergents or toxic chemicals in it.

00:35:59.000 And they've got a, for 14 bucks, they've got a tote bag with a sample of everything they've got.

00:36:04.000 It's a great deal.

00:36:05.000 They've got year supplies, month supplies, four year supplies.

00:36:11.000 And I was using this for a full two years before Marty was a sponsor of this broadcast.

00:36:17.000 Marty, thank you for coming on with us.

00:36:19.000 Good morning, Sunshine!

00:36:21.000 We really appreciate you coming on, Marty.

00:36:24.000 Tell us about your company, tell us why your soap is so good, and tell us why it's so different, and now how the public is able to get this.

00:36:34.000 Well, we make our pure soap products with the same love I have with my wife and son.

00:36:42.000 All we want to do is share it with you and your listeners.

00:36:46.000 This is something you will love.

00:36:49.000 I say love.

00:36:50.000 You will love our bath soap, our hair soap, our laundry soap, and dish soap.

00:36:55.000 Not like, but love.

00:36:57.000 So this is what we do.

00:36:59.000 We've been doing it for almost 60 years.

00:37:02.000 And, you know, this morning we got an email from Nikki Graves in Denton, Texas.

00:37:10.000 And she says, the soap is wonderful.

00:37:14.000 We tried the sample pack.

00:37:16.000 Now we want it all!

00:37:18.000 And she gave us a large order.

00:37:19.000 I said, Nicky, it's on its way.

00:37:22.000 We really appreciate your listeners trying our products and loving our products.

00:37:28.000 And this is a wonderful goal.

00:37:31.000 And when we say the word Alex Jones, everybody in our plant applauds.

00:37:36.000 You've done so much for us by recommending our bath soap and hair soap and dish soap and laundry soap.

00:37:43.000 There's nothing like it in the country.

00:37:46.000 Well, explain why your soap is different.

00:37:49.000 Tell us what's in it.

00:37:50.000 And then talk about the savings, because that is real.

00:37:55.000 This is true, folks.

00:37:56.000 Tell them how much money they'll save, and it's made in America. 0.72

00:38:00.000 Well, basically, we don't make detergents.

00:38:03.000 Detergents is a dirty word in our company. 0.97

00:38:06.000 We make our products with coconut oils, with vegetable oils.

00:38:11.000 We don't use perfumes.

00:38:13.000 We use natural juices of lemons, of oranges, of cherries.

00:38:19.000 This is what we do.

00:38:20.000 We're very stubborn, very old-fashioned, and very conservative in our thinking for the consumer.

00:38:27.000 So this is what now detergents are made from petrochemicals.

00:38:32.000 That's another word for saying waste petroleum.

00:38:35.000 They use alkalinity products.

00:38:38.000 They use materials that are toxic, that burn the clothing.

00:38:43.000 You think, you know, you look in your lint trap of your dryer and you say, what's this lint?

00:38:48.000 That's broken clothing.

00:38:50.000 The detergents are too strong.

00:38:53.000 When they say stronger than dirt, they mean it.

00:38:56.000 It microscopically breaks down the fiber of the cotton or silk or nylon or wool.

00:39:03.000 And that microscopic breakdown It goes right into the dryer.

00:39:08.000 And lint is broken clothing.

00:39:11.000 That's why there's no longevity of your shirts, owls, and underwear, and baby clothing.

00:39:17.000 Well, sometimes we'll be on vacation and, you know, use the hotel washing machine, and if my children wear clothes that have been washed and tied or other detergents, They get little red rashes.

00:39:32.000 My father, growing up, certain brands give him rashes, would give me rashes.

00:39:37.000 That's how toxic this is.

00:39:39.000 And to explain this... Well, it's called alkali.

00:39:42.000 It's made strong.

00:39:44.000 It's strong so it dissolves the soil and the dirt and the perspiration and the food stains in the clothing.

00:39:51.000 But let me break this down for you, Marty, because this is key.

00:39:54.000 After World War II, they had tons and tons and tons, millions of tons from aluminum manufacturing and fertilizer production of sodium and stannous fluoride and other types of toxic chemicals.

00:40:05.000 So they just got a national program of propaganda pushed.

00:40:09.000 With the psychological warfare Pentagon expert, the Pentagon had hired him, Edward Bernays, the father of modern PR, to push the National Committee on Fluoridation to then put these types of fluoride in the water.

00:40:23.000 So these guys are masters at taking their toxic waste and making it a product.

00:40:27.000 Take depleted uranium.

00:40:30.000 Ninety-nine percent of the uranium they put in bombs they can't use, but it's still radioactive, so now they've served it out into most of the different munitions.

00:40:38.000 It's the same thing With these petrochemical detergents.

00:40:42.000 And folks, you read what's on all of the shampoo.

00:40:46.000 The clothes washing detergents.

00:40:48.000 The stuff you wash your plates on.

00:40:50.000 It's toxic.

00:40:51.000 It's poisonous.

00:40:52.000 The white residues that are on your plates.

00:40:54.000 You're eating off of that.

00:40:56.000 This is a great product I'm bringing you.

00:40:59.000 It's what I've been using now.

00:41:00.000 I keep saying two years.

00:41:01.000 I guess Marty's been a sponsor for six months now.

00:41:03.000 So two and a half years I've been using this.

00:41:07.000 And it is not a joke that the smell of the cherries and of the almond oil that is in the bar soap... First my staff was laughing at me, and I pick up a bar of it and smell it around the office, because there's something about the smell, folks.

00:41:21.000 I'm not into smelling things.

00:41:22.000 I don't even really wear cologne.

00:41:24.000 And now I'll look over and Ryan Slickheisen or Aaron Dykes or Kevin Smith got bars of the soap smelling it.

00:41:30.000 It's in our office bathroom.

00:41:31.000 It's what they use at their homes now.

00:41:34.000 This stuff is unbelievably good.

00:41:36.000 And again, that's the way it is.

00:41:38.000 Good things cost you less money.

00:41:39.000 Take Berkey water filters.

00:41:41.000 You think bottled water is good?

00:41:42.000 No, it's very dangerous.

00:41:43.000 We've got stories on that.

00:41:44.000 But you end up saving money with a Big Berkey filter over bottled water.

00:41:49.000 It's the same thing with this.

00:41:50.000 So in closing, Marty, tell folks about the savings they will get versus buying the toxic garbage at the supermarket.

00:41:58.000 Well, as an Alex Jones exclusive, we've got what we call a GCN, more than a In other words, it's an MSRP.

00:42:10.000 Our MSRP, or the Manufacturer's Retail Price, is $295 for a one-year supply.

00:42:18.000 It could last anywhere from 12 to 24 months.

00:42:22.000 The Alex Jones Special for this one-year supply is $125.

00:42:26.000 No tax.

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00:42:37.000 A week for everything.

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00:42:42.000 Compare that to what it's costing you now in the supermarket for these toxic detergents.

00:42:49.000 $3.50 a week.

00:42:50.000 Multiply that out to 52 weeks and you got $165 total, which includes the United Parcel, includes the soap, and includes an unconditional guarantee 100% guarantee to your satisfaction.

00:43:08.000 We want you to be happy and clean and save you a lot of money.

00:43:12.000 Marty, give them the website and give them the phone number.

00:43:14.000 You can also call and get a free catalog.

00:43:16.000 Okay, we not only have the one-year supply, we've got a sampler pack of $14, weighs out 6 pounds.

00:43:23.000 It's got all the basic products and information that we can unite and parcel to your door.

00:43:29.000 You can reach me every day.

00:43:31.000 At 800-340-7091 or you can reach us at our website which is 5 Star Soap.

00:43:42.000 Simple as that.

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00:43:44.000 When it's 5 the number or 5 the letter.

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00:43:50.000 That's 5Starsoap.com.

00:43:53.000 That's correct.

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00:43:55.000 Give them that phone number again, Marty.

00:43:56.000 800-340-7091.

00:44:01.000 Marty, thank you for being one of the few companies, I guess, left in this country, and thank you for your amazing product.

00:44:07.000 We've got to get it in Whole Foods grocery stores.

00:44:09.000 Have you tried that yet?

00:44:10.000 Because I've been for years buying organic soaps there, and a lot of them are really harsh, super expensive, even more than the normal toxic stuff at the regular grocery store.

00:44:18.000 Have you tried to get your...

00:44:20.000 Yes, I'll tell you a story about that on our next visit.

00:44:22.000 I'd like to end with a little, just a little philosophy. - Mm-hmm.

00:44:28.000 Yesterday is history.

00:44:30.000 Tomorrow is a mystery.

00:44:33.000 And today is a gift.

00:44:36.000 That's why they call it the present.

00:44:39.000 Marty, take care.

00:44:40.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:44:42.000 He is something else.

00:44:43.000 I hope you'll give him a call, ladies and gentlemen.

00:44:45.000 All right.

00:44:46.000 If you missed the website address, we've got a link to it on InfoWars.com.

00:44:50.000 I spent, what, eight, nine minutes with him.

00:44:52.000 We do that once a month because he's a great sponsor.

00:44:54.000 I believe in this product.

00:44:55.000 I use it, and it'll save you a lot of money.

00:44:57.000 We like to send good ideas and good products to our listeners, and it makes this broadcast possible as well.

00:45:03.000 So, shifting back into the news.

00:45:06.000 9-1-1 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon.

00:45:10.000 Some staff members and commissioners of the September 11th panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it Reached and reacted to the 2001 terror attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the Commission and the public rather than a reflection on the fog of events on that day according to sources involved in the debate.

00:45:37.000 Excuse me, I've got something stuck in my throat.

00:45:39.000 Let me read that again.

00:45:40.000 9-1-1 panel suspected deception by Pentagon Allegations brought to Inspector General.

00:45:49.000 Some staff members and commissioners of the September 11th panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terror attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the Commission and the public, rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.

00:46:13.000 And then you read into the article and it's really a mountain out of a molehill.

00:46:18.000 They're debating nothing. 0.99

00:46:20.000 They're saying, oh, the Pentagon covered up how screwed up their response was and how badly coordinated because they were embarrassed and because they didn't want to be shown as a bunch of imbeciles. 1.00

00:46:37.000 Well, that's not what happened. 0.94

00:46:39.000 The Pentagon was told, with NORAD, to carry out the biggest hijacking drill in world history, before that time and after that time, on the morning of September 11th.

00:46:52.000 In the two weeks before 9-11, they were having multiple drills every day, not just the drills that day.

00:46:57.000 In the year before the event, they were having drills every month, and so they were constantly hearing about hijack jets, constantly hearing about You know, how to respond.

00:47:09.000 Constantly doing these war games.

00:47:11.000 Constantly seeing the Pentagon, and the World Trade Center, and the CIA, and the FBI headquarters, and the White House, and Capitol Hill, and the Sears Tower, and the insurance building there in San Francisco, the Travelers Building.

00:47:28.000 On and on and on.

00:47:29.000 There were targets in Canada.

00:47:32.000 All of this happening And then you had able danger programs, anti-terror training ops, where there were real life military intelligence officers for months before going on board planes, seeing if they could sneak box cutters on, seeing if they could sneak fake bombs on.

00:47:50.000 You remember hearing about this?

00:47:52.000 Seeing if stewardesses, flight attendants would notice.

00:47:58.000 Well, that's what happened on 9-11.

00:47:59.000 We've got these supposed hijackers, the few who were actually on there, whose names really did appear, and who we know supposedly were at least seen at the airports.

00:48:09.000 Most of them have been found to still be alive.

00:48:11.000 And the few, the 10 or 12, depending on which article you look at, who were actually at least around the airport.

00:48:18.000 We know that.

00:48:20.000 No video of them boarding.

00:48:22.000 We know they were trained in secret espionage slash spy slash coding slash flight lessons at U.S.

00:48:30.000 military bases.

00:48:31.000 I mean, they're being run through full spy training.

00:48:34.000 They're being protected.

00:48:36.000 Their embassies, when they leave the country to go to Al-Qaeda summits in Malaysia, embassy heads don't want to let them back in.

00:48:42.000 CIA calls and says, National Security, these are our operatives posing as terrorists.

00:48:47.000 The terror data you see in the computers is simply their cover.

00:48:51.000 And then people who we know are U.S.

00:48:54.000 government agents.

00:48:55.000 Do you understand that?

00:48:56.000 We know they're agents!

00:49:00.000 I think this is one of the key issues.

00:49:03.000 We know they're agents.

00:49:06.000 Embassy heads, deans of defense language schools, officers at Pensacola.

00:49:11.000 FBI agents are going, hey, we were surveilling them, had informants living with them, and we're told to back off, over and over again.

00:49:16.000 Because again, other areas of intelligence and security pick up on these people and go, hey, we got terrorists!

00:49:23.000 Because they're out openly creating a history, a ledger, for later public consumption.

00:49:27.000 The supposed terrorists, the decoys, believe they're testing the establishment, actually testing the FBI, testing defense intelligence.

00:49:34.000 Do you understand?

00:49:35.000 They do this routinely.

00:49:37.000 So they don't understand what's happening.

00:49:38.000 This is departmentalization.

00:49:39.000 Every time the FBI is about to pounce and arrest them, they're told, back off, back off, back off. 0.98

00:49:44.000 Then, for later plausible deniability, they have a few mentally ill Low-grade moron, real terrorists who've been recruited by the government, who don't know they're being handled by Arabic-speaking U.S. 0.98

00:49:57.000 government agents to carry out terror. 0.97

00:50:00.000 The people doing that think they're running a sting operation, and then all it takes is a small group that actually hijack those jets by remote control and flow them into those buildings.

00:50:10.000 Now, there it is laid out how it happened.

00:50:13.000 And then even in this new whitewash they release that, oh we screwed up, you caught us red-handed.

00:50:18.000 Yeah, we covered up, but it isn't what you thought.

00:50:20.000 We're not involved in the attacks. 1.00

00:50:22.000 We're just big idiots. 1.00

00:50:24.000 And we tried to cover that up. 1.00

00:50:25.000 You caught us.

00:50:26.000 Hoping we'll buy into that.

00:50:29.000 And then even in the tapes they do release, the hundreds of hours they've got, they decide to release these tapes that kind of In some ways back up their story, but even in those tapes, it's the controllers at NORAD going, I've never seen so much real world during the exercise.

00:50:42.000 Is this the exercise?

00:50:44.000 Is this part of the exercise?

00:50:45.000 No, this isn't part of the exercise, but exercise!

00:50:47.000 But there's blips all over the screen!

00:50:49.000 There's an exercise going on!

00:50:51.000 What?

00:50:53.000 We'll be right back, and I'll get into some of the Vanity Fair article, and we've got a guest coming on.

00:50:57.000 We'll shift gears to the Middle East.

00:50:59.000 And then in the third hour, I'm going to play all of the tags they've released.

00:51:04.000 It's here!

00:51:05.000 After a year in production and traveling to distant lands, my new film Terror Storm is complete.

00:51:10.000 Shocking declassified government documents prove that Western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

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00:54:12.000 Ralph Shulman has lived in the Palestinian refugee camps.

00:54:16.000 He's really a famous individual.

00:54:19.000 Involved in so many of the famous movements back in the 60's.

00:54:22.000 And he's been in Palestine recently.

00:54:25.000 Will be joining us.

00:54:25.000 We'll get into what Israel is doing right now.

00:54:28.000 Moving ground forces into the north of Lebanon.

00:54:32.000 Bombarding with their artillery now.

00:54:34.000 The north of Lebanon with a ground attack.

00:54:36.000 This is a huge escalation.

00:54:38.000 We'll be getting into that.

00:54:42.000 But again, you read this Washington Post article about suspected deception by Pentagon, and it's totally hollow.

00:54:51.000 Meanwhile, there's a huge article out from Vanity Fair today.

00:54:54.000 9-1-1 lie! 0.91

00:54:57.000 The NORAD tapes!

00:54:59.000 How did the U.S.

00:55:00.000 Air Force respond on 9-11?

00:55:02.000 Could it have shot down Flight 93, as conspiracy theorists claim?

00:55:07.000 Obtaining 30 hours of never-before-released tapes from the control room of NORAD's Northeast Headquarters, the author reconstructs the chaotic military history of that day and the Pentagon's apparent attempt to cover it up.

00:55:21.000 Now again, this is written like it's a big expose.

00:55:26.000 The government has hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours of NORAD and FAA tapes, because again, there are dozens and dozens and dozens of different flight centers communicating with each other.

00:55:36.000 Over three hours a piece.

00:55:38.000 That comes out to hundreds of hours.

00:55:39.000 They admit they have hundreds of hours.

00:55:41.000 They release 30 hours to Vanity Fair, and Vanity Fair releases, I don't know, what is this, less than 20 minutes of it.

00:55:49.000 But buried in there, they're talking about the drills, and I've never seen, quote, so much real world during an exercise.

00:55:57.000 So this is written like it's an expose, but really it, um, It attempts to destroy the idea that the government was involved in the attacks, but you know where you're looking.

00:56:09.000 If you know where you're looking, it does the complete opposite, and affirms that there's hijackers on the planes, and all of this is going on.

00:56:22.000 It's like the Pentagon releasing to Judicial Watch, and Judicial Watch comes out and says, we're releasing this to destroy the myth That a large passenger plane didn't hit the Pentagon.

00:56:35.000 And then they show the tape, and it's two more views from the same parking lot just a few yards away.

00:56:42.000 Because they have like four or five lanes, I guess, going in and going out.

00:56:46.000 So it's each little spot, you know, as you drive through the gates there.

00:56:53.000 As you drive through, it takes pictures of your car for security purposes.

00:56:58.000 They just released two more angles of the exact same thing and it creates more of a debate, more questions swirling around that now.

00:57:06.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:57:08.000 The government wants us to focus on the Pentagon because it can be endlessly debated until the cows come home. 0.91

00:57:12.000 They do not want us to focus on CIA insider trading against America and United.

00:57:18.000 At 4,000 plus times any normal level.

00:57:21.000 They don't want us to focus on bombs in the buildings and thermite and thermate.

00:57:24.000 They don't want us to focus on the supposed hijackers being U.S.

00:57:27.000 government agents.

00:57:29.000 They don't want us to focus on the CIA and NORAD running drills of hijacked jets hitting the exact same targets.

00:57:36.000 They don't want us to focus on bin Laden being a known CIA asset or seven to nine of the hijackers still being alive, BBC.

00:57:47.000 They don't want us to focus on the U.S.

00:57:48.000 troops already massed in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

00:57:53.000 They don't want you to focus on any of that.

00:57:58.000 They don't want you to focus on the history of government-sponsored terror.

00:58:01.000 Our own government has carried out terror attacks and admitted it against foreign countries and our own country to blame it on their enemies time and time again.

00:58:11.000 Now, I'm not criticizing anyone who is talking about the Pentagon.

00:58:15.000 We've talked about it, we've covered it.

00:58:16.000 I just have simply said, why is it the lion's share of the focus and why does the media choose to predominantly focus on it?

00:58:24.000 That is suspicious.

00:58:27.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:58:30.000 Alright, we'll start the second hour with Ralph Shuman here in a moment.

00:58:33.000 We'll get him on the horn and look at what's happening in the Middle East, which could lead to World War III.

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00:59:01.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:16.000 Ralph Shulman is an author, lecturer.

00:59:21.000 He was in the jungles, I'm told, with Shea Guevara.

00:59:26.000 He's lived in Palestinian refugee camps.

00:59:30.000 He's a Jewish American.

00:59:31.000 He's written the history of Zionism, 1988, the hidden history of Zionism, way back when really nobody was even talking about it.

00:59:38.000 I guess we'll talk to him about what brand of particular Zionism he's discussing.

00:59:43.000 There's really no way to go over his entire bio.

00:59:47.000 And he, of course, worked with Bertrand Russell and Edith Russell.

00:59:54.000 There's really no way to go over his entire bio.

00:59:57.000 I obviously do not agree with his His political solutions or his political bent, extreme leftists.

01:00:05.000 I don't believe in the left-right paradigm.

01:00:06.000 I know it's false and controlled.

01:00:08.000 I know that the big banks created communism, but his experiences and the things he's seen and the ideas he has, a lot of them are extremely valid, and so he's here to share those experiences with us, and I've known him to be a truthful and honest person in the information he relays to you.

01:00:26.000 So we're honored to have him with us today.

01:00:28.000 Ralph Shulman, thank you for coming on.

01:00:30.000 Yes, thanks, Alex.

01:00:32.000 I think we should skip the question of extremism.

01:00:34.000 You and I are both labeled with that.

01:00:36.000 That's the way to dismiss ideas without having to consider them.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, I'm not dismissing your ideas, sir, and I appreciate your courage, the places and things you've seen and done.

01:00:46.000 I totally reject the paradigm that we're even given, and I know that you were into some of that more leftward stuff back in the 60s.

01:00:54.000 You've kind of expanded on from that point.

01:00:59.000 Just because it's so interesting and it speaks to your credibility just as a historical lens or window, tell us about some of the experiences of your life first so we know who Ralph Shulman is.

01:01:10.000 Well, I mean, with reference to the question of Palestine, we've been involved for a very long time in building a movement in opposition to the colonization of Palestine.

01:01:21.000 And as you indicated, Alex, the Zionist movement is a colonial settler movement.

01:01:28.000 From its inception, the intention was to remove the indigenous population. 0.97

01:01:33.000 What distinguishes Zionism from the normal or usual colonial project in Africa, Asia, or Latin America was that this was not just about that 1% of the population that owns 95% of the national wealth in the United States seeking to seize the resources of subject peoples or to create slave labor conditions to exploit their labor.

01:01:55.000 This had a different dimension.

01:01:57.000 The Zionist project was about replacing the indigenous labor force. 0.91

01:02:02.000 The mantra under which Zionist colonization was launched was a land without a people for a people without a land. 0.73

01:02:10.000 Pretending that no one lived in Palestine and projecting on behalf of its imperial sponsors because we have to remember that the Zionist movement began in the late 19th century amongst middle class, in fact upper middle class Jews who had despaired of struggling against the repressive and reactionary and exploitative regimes of the time that were deeply anti-semitic and persecutory not only of Jews but in particular of Jews.

01:02:39.000 And these Zionists sought to gain the support of the Tsar and of Russian imperialism and of French and British and American imperialism, German imperialism, to create an outpost for those imperial powers In which they would remove the indigenous population and form a kind of shock troop to undermine the movement for national independence in the Arab East. 0.86

01:03:04.000 So they appealed to all of these regimes for financial and military support.

01:03:08.000 And they got the support from England.

01:03:10.000 They got it from all of them, and they certainly got it from England, but the primary sponsor was the United States because it was the United States that, with Stalin, Actually, organized the partitioning of Palestine over the heads of the Palestinian people.

01:03:24.000 Now, in 1947, when the UN partitioned Palestine... Stay there, Ralph, because I particularly ask you to go over some of your background first.

01:03:32.000 When we get back, can we start over there?

01:03:33.000 Sure, no problem.

01:03:35.000 I really want to do that.

01:03:37.000 Folks, I try to bring you different perspectives, different views, different ideas, and Ralph has witnessed quite a lot of his long life, and this should be quite informative.

01:03:46.000 Stay with us.

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01:07:02.000 You want answers?

01:07:04.000 Well, so does he.

01:07:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:07:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:13.000 Ralph Shulman is a Jewish American, author, lecturer, traveled the world.

01:07:23.000 and the last one.

01:07:24.000 In the last 45-50 years, he's witnessed many of the great upheavals.

01:07:30.000 He knew Malcolm X, he knew Che Guevara.

01:07:33.000 He also headed up one of the international organizations that exposed the Kennedy assassination as an inside job carried out by our own government.

01:07:43.000 Ralph, before we get into Palestine and living there in the refugee camps and the history of what Israel really is and who controls it, Tell us a little bit about yourself first.

01:07:54.000 I want to go back over some of your life experiences, please.

01:07:56.000 Well, sure, Alex.

01:07:58.000 I suppose, you know, when I was in Great Britain, I was the executive director of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation, and we were involved in negotiations direct to my own experience with about 40 heads of state on a variety of questions.

01:08:15.000 I was secretary general of the International Tribunal on U.S.

01:08:18.000 war crimes in Indochina.

01:08:21.000 I was director of the Vietnam Solidarity Campaign at the time, which had 60 member organizations, and we were also very much involved in arranging the release and negotiating the release of political prisoners in over 40 countries over that time frame.

01:08:41.000 Any of the struggles that involved the oppressed and their resistance to colonial and imperial occupation and exploitation The struggles in which we were engaged over these decades, as you mentioned.

01:08:55.000 With reference to the question of Palestine, I think it's important for us to understand that at the time that the United Nations partitioned Palestine over the heads of the Palestinian people, through the promotion of this project by Harry Truman in conjunction with Joseph Stalin, The Jewish Agency presented a map of what it called the Land of Israel to the Special Committee of the United Nations for the Partitioning of Palestine.

01:09:25.000 That map was based on the diaries of Theodor Herzl, Volume 2 in 1902, and the map which projected what was the Land of Israel included all of Palestine, all of Jordan, One-third of Arabia, Egypt up to the Nile including Cairo, one-third of Syria, two-thirds of Iraq, the southern tier of Turkey and Kuwait, Eretz Israel.

01:09:49.000 This project was implemented almost immediately, even before the state itself was formed in May of 1948.

01:09:57.000 The series of massacres that were unfolded in villages and towns across Palestine drove out nearly 800,000 people out of a population of 930,000.

01:10:13.000 The Zionists had obtained only 3% of the land by purchasing it from absentee Turkish landowners.

01:10:20.000 Through the partitioning of Palestine, the UN handed them 55% of the most fertile land.

01:10:27.000 Even before the formation of the state, they had seized 93% of the land.

01:10:32.000 They now have control over 475 Palestinian towns and villages.

01:10:37.000 They reduced to rubble.

01:10:40.000 They wiped them off the map.

01:10:41.000 Mr. Shulman, let's stop right there for just a moment if we can.

01:10:45.000 Because people think that the Palestinians and the Arabs in that area just hate Israel for no reason.

01:10:52.000 They don't understand that this openly happened.

01:10:54.000 And then if Arabs wouldn't move out, they would openly bomb their homes, car bomb their houses. 1.00

01:11:00.000 That's really where the Arabs and the Palestinians picked up on counter-bombing. 0.94

01:11:04.000 And then today, we hear the neocons on talk radio now saying, There are no innocent children. 0.98

01:11:10.000 Go ahead and just kill everybody in Lebanon. 1.00

01:11:13.000 There are major papers, in fact I have one in a printout here, one of the major Israeli papers, with the head rabbi saying that everyone can be killed in this war, that we need to just go ahead and take everything. 0.86

01:11:24.000 And yes, I've seen the map that they openly promote where Israel's got like half the Middle East. 0.55

01:11:29.000 This is madness, and you're a Jewish American yourself, most Jews that I know are totally against what's happening, but if that's the case then, how is Israel able to continue in the things that they're doing, the genocidal activities that Americans aren't even aware of? 0.88

01:11:48.000 Well, Alex, you hit the nail on the head here.

01:11:52.000 First of all, of course, I mean, yes, my parents were Hungarian Jews.

01:11:55.000 I have no religious convictions myself.

01:11:58.000 In fact, you're a Holocaust survivor, aren't you?

01:12:02.000 No, no, about 70 members of my family were exterminated.

01:12:06.000 But the irony of that, Alex, is that the Zionist movement were the active collaborators with the Nazis.

01:12:12.000 No, we have the official publications they wrote, big magazines and letters.

01:12:17.000 They really liked Hitler, yeah. 0.93

01:12:18.000 They supported all of the reactionary anti-Semitic regimes. 0.60

01:12:22.000 They colluded with them in ridding Europe of its Jews because they had in mind a colonial project in Palestine. 0.97

01:12:28.000 Although they actively resisted and opposed and sabotaged any attempts for persecuted Jews to escape Europe to the United States or Canada or Great Britain or Australia, They were totally collusive in preventing that, but that's a large question that I'd certainly like to address.

01:12:47.000 It's addressed in my book, The Hidden History of Zionism, and in other books that I've written together with Maya Schoen, my wife.

01:12:56.000 Alex, I'd like to mention that we're actually holding a meeting for your listeners in Northern California in Berkeley on August 17th at 7pm.

01:13:06.000 uh... called apocalypse now the u.s.

01:13:08.000 and israeli master plan for the middle east which will take place at the unitarian universalist fellowship hall in Berkeley, 1924 CEDA, so I'd encourage your listeners to attend that.

01:13:20.000 There's another event here in Austin tonight at the Universalist Church.

01:13:24.000 They're going to be showing my film, Martial Law.

01:13:26.000 Now, Ralph, I interrupted you.

01:13:29.000 I want to go back now, because I really have studied the history of this.

01:13:33.000 The Arabs, the Palestinians, were extremely peaceful.

01:13:37.000 Palestine was one of the more peaceful and productive There were Jews living there.

01:13:43.000 They got along extremely well with the Palestinians.

01:13:48.000 Contrary to popular belief, Muslims actually revere Jews and obviously think that the first big prophet is Abraham and then Moses.

01:14:00.000 That's why you always hear the Arabs say, the Zionists, the Zionists, the Zionists. 0.97

01:14:05.000 And so really again what we've seen the Labor Zionists and the Likudniks now do in Palestine has actually turned the Arab world against Jews and I also found the documents and it's admitted that our government went in at the end of World War II and actually found the more Wahhabi as radical Muslim sects to try to put them in power to actually put military heat on the Jews to keep a military government in control of Israel so that they could continue to fight and then have the pretext to expand Israel. 0.72

01:14:34.000 Is that a Accurate analysis.

01:14:38.000 Look, the Jews in Palestine who were indigenous were wholly integrated within Palestinian society, as they were throughout the Arab East.

01:14:47.000 In fact, if you meet a Jew from Yemen or North Africa or from Iraq, you're talking to an Arab who happens to have Jewish religious convictions.

01:14:54.000 He looks like Amal Abdel Nasser.

01:14:56.000 He has the wedding customs and the mores and the eating habits and the dress and the manner of any other Arab. 0.86

01:15:02.000 He just happens to be an Arab who is a Jew as opposed to a Christian or a Muslim.

01:15:06.000 Let me tell you this, Alex.

01:15:07.000 The head of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, George Habash, was a Christian.

01:15:13.000 The head of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Nayef Hawatneh, was a Seventh-Day Adventist.

01:15:19.000 The main, one of the principal representatives of the PLO in Paris, Ilan Halave, was an Oriental Jew.

01:15:26.000 Maya and myself have lived in the Palestinian camps, worked with the Executive Committee of the PLO.

01:15:30.000 We lived throughout the Palestinian camps in Lebanon during the siege and occupation of 82.

01:15:36.000 The Palestinians could care less about who's a Jew, who's a Muslim, who's a Christian. 1.00

01:15:40.000 The city of Ramallah in the West Bank is almost entirely a Christian city.

01:15:45.000 It voted overwhelmingly in support of Hamas. 1.00

01:15:47.000 I know, but Americans believe that all Arabs have giant 15-foot daggers and will literally cut all Christians' heads off and suck their blood out. 0.99

01:15:56.000 I mean, they think Arabs want to kill everyone and make everyone convert to Islam, and that is a total lie, unless you're talking about the Sudan. 0.99

01:16:06.000 Well, it's not even in the Sudan.

01:16:08.000 I mean, you're talking here against, essentially about the notion of untermensch, you know, interior peoples.

01:16:14.000 It's part of the colonial and imperial ideology.

01:16:18.000 But let's be clear about this.

01:16:20.000 The colonization of Palestine was a project to remove the indigenous population through massacre.

01:16:27.000 Let me give you, I mean, we've been now reporting, all of us, about the massacre that has just unfolded in Ghana.

01:16:35.000 In Lebanon, in which the village of Kana was destroyed and the hundreds of civilians were literally butchered in that city.

01:16:45.000 Do you know that that occurred on the 10th anniversary of the same event occurring in 1996?

01:16:50.000 Yes, I did.

01:16:51.000 I know that the Israelis like to do it on certain dates to publicly be able to take credit for it, while at the same time denying it.

01:16:58.000 You know, Maya and I, in 1982, here's an irony for you, Alex.

01:17:04.000 The invasion of Lebanon in 1982 proceeded under the rubric of Peace in the Galilee.

01:17:11.000 Now, the inhabitants of the Galilee, as the real Galileans, had been driven out of the Galilee by the Zionists in 1947 and 1948 through massacre.

01:17:21.000 The survivors had regrouped in the refugee camp called Ein el Helwe, which means Sweet Spring on the outskirts of Saida.

01:17:29.000 There are about 100,000 of the Palestinians from the northern Galilean areas of Palestine who were driven out in 1947 and 1948.

01:17:38.000 In 1982, the Zionists took Einar Helloway as a grid. 0.96

01:17:43.000 They divided it into quadrants.

01:17:45.000 They bombed it, saturation bombing, 10 days and 10 nights.

01:17:48.000 Then they shelled it from the sea and from the mountains for ten days and ten nights.

01:17:53.000 They reduced it to rubble.

01:17:54.000 Then they brought in the bulldozers.

01:17:56.000 We were there.

01:17:57.000 The bulldozers not only closed off the shelters where people were seeking refuge from the bombs, but they buried these people alive.

01:18:05.000 The mass graves in I Know Hellway were such that the bodies formed rivulets of body fluids, little rivers of body fluids that were flowing across I Know Hellway up to Sidon.

01:18:18.000 The body fluids actually invaded the offices of the International Committee of the Red Cross who moved their offices and didn't write a mumbling word.

01:18:29.000 These massacres were recreated in Rashadiyah, in Al-Bath, in Mia Mia, in Burj Al-Brajni, not to mention Sabra and Shatila.

01:18:39.000 Well, sir, we have major Israeli papers today saying that they can kill every man, woman, and child.

01:18:45.000 They're actually saying that those people are not human. 0.86

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01:23:02.000 The Yishuv Rabbinical Council, during time of war, enemy has no innocence. 0.94

01:23:09.000 And this is out of the Ynet News, a big Israeli publication over there.

01:23:16.000 It says the Yishuv, I'm pronouncing that right, Rabbinical Council announced its response to an IDF attack.

01:23:23.000 On the village, according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as innocence of the enemy.

01:23:29.000 All of the discussion on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us the blood of our soldiers and civilians, the statement said.

01:23:41.000 Ralph Shoman?

01:23:41.000 I mean, I've got a bunch of Israeli newspapers saying similar things, just saying, look, we're allowed to kill everybody, and we're going to, but then in our news, we hear that Israel lovingly doesn't want to target any civilians, and it's all an accident when they shoot rockets right through the Red Cross symbols on the vehicles.

01:23:59.000 I mean, what's going on?

01:24:00.000 Well, let me quote to you from the Labor-History of the General Federation of Workers publication, Davar, Describing the process through which the Israeli state was created.

01:24:13.000 Quote, this is about the massacre in Douaima.

01:24:16.000 And there were massacres in every village and town across suffering Palestine.

01:24:20.000 Quote, they killed between 80 to 100 Palestinian men, women, children.

01:24:25.000 To kill the children, they fractured their heads with sticks.

01:24:28.000 There was not one home without corpses.

01:24:30.000 The men and women of the villages were pushed into houses without food or water.

01:24:34.000 Then the saboteurs came to dynamite them.

01:24:37.000 Commanders ordered soldiers to bring women into the buildings they were about to blow up. 0.99

01:24:41.000 They prided themselves on raping the Arab women before shooting them to death. 0.97

01:24:46.000 An Arab woman with her newborn baby was made to clean the place for a couple of days, and then they shot her and the baby. 0.98

01:24:52.000 Educated and well-mannered commanders who were considered good guys became base murderers, and this not in the storm of battle, but as a method of expulsion and extermination.

01:25:04.000 The fewer the Arabs who remain, the better." That's the process through which all of Palestine was colonized. 1.00

01:25:12.000 But this isn't you, Ralph Shulman.

01:25:14.000 Major pro-war Israeli papers are saying, don't listen to Americans, and don't listen to Christians and others that say we shouldn't kill everybody.

01:25:24.000 We're allowed to.

01:25:26.000 And then, I mean, how do the Israelis...

01:25:29.000 You know, expect the Arabs not to want to fight them with their tinker toy weapons. 1.00

01:25:34.000 Well, if anybody would resist the occupation and destruction of their entire population, let me quote to you from Raphael Aitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Armed Forces.

01:25:43.000 We declare openly that the Palestinians have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel. 1.00

01:25:50.000 Force is all they do or ever will understand, and we shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours. 1.00

01:25:59.000 And here is his statement before the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. 0.97

01:26:03.000 When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do is scurry around like drug roaches in a bottle. 1.00

01:26:11.000 David Ben-Gurion was the so-called George Washington or founder of the Israeli state. 0.94

01:26:17.000 Here he is writing to his son in 1938.

01:26:21.000 A partial Jewish state is only the beginning. 0.95

01:26:23.000 We cannot be prevented from occupying other parts of the country and the region. 0.89

01:26:28.000 In 1938, he was more explicit.

01:26:31.000 The boundaries of Zionist aspiration, he told the World Council of Poil Zion in Tel Aviv, include all of Lebanon, all of Syria, today's Jordan, all of East Jordan, the West Bank, and the Sinai.

01:26:43.000 After we become a strong force as the result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.

01:26:51.000 The state is only a stage in the realization of Zionism, and its task is to prepare the ground for our expansion. 0.97

01:26:59.000 The state will preserve order not by preaching, but with machine guns.

01:27:03.000 Here he is in May 1948.

01:27:04.000 Prepare to go over to the offensive.

01:27:07.000 These are his directives to the General Staff.

01:27:10.000 Smash Lebanon, Transjordan, and Syria. 1.00

01:27:13.000 The weak point is Lebanon, for the Muslim regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. 1.00

01:27:18.000 We shall establish a Christian state there and smash the Arab legions. 1.00

01:27:22.000 Eliminate Transjordan. 1.00

01:27:24.000 Syria will fall to us. 1.00

01:27:25.000 We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria, and Sinai.

01:27:32.000 Meanwhile, Ralph Shulman, our mainstream media says... 0.95

01:27:35.000 The crazy Arabs and Palestinians claim Israel wants the whole region. 1.00

01:27:39.000 They're nutty conspiracy theorists. 0.99

01:27:41.000 Then I read mainstream Israeli papers and they're openly saying that all of this is the aim. 1.00

01:27:47.000 Do you think Syria is stupid enough to launch a counter-attack on Israel? 0.98

01:27:50.000 What do you think Israel is going to do in the next few months? 1.00

01:27:53.000 Well, we have to keep clearly in mind, Alex, you and I have been discussing the meaning of 9-11.

01:27:59.000 The very category of terror That was the replacement, the ideological replacement for the so-called menace of subversion.

01:28:07.000 The rationale for huge military budgets, $10 trillion over 40 years, more than the combined value of everything produced in this society.

01:28:16.000 That's what the operations in the Middle East are about.

01:28:20.000 No, I understand they have continual war, then consolidate all the wealth under the elite's hands.

01:28:25.000 When we get back, we'll talk to Ralph Shumlin.

01:28:29.000 We'll get into 9-11, the inside job, and then we'll get into what you personally witnessed when you've been over in the Middle East. 0.96

01:28:36.000 And by the way, we've gotten emails where people are saying they want to kill all Arabs on Earth. 0.96

01:28:41.000 We'll be right back. 0.99

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01:32:04.000 Don't forget, if you want to see my new film, Terror Storm's premiere, we'll be showing it first The final edition.

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01:33:52.000 Throughout history, criminal elements inside government have carried out terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

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01:36:11.000 And one more program note, C-SPAN for the fourth time aired our 9-11 Neocon Symposium Roundtable discussion yesterday.

01:36:19.000 It got hyped all over the web, all over radio, all over the place, and on C-SPAN and had a huge effect.

01:36:26.000 And I want to thank all of you out there that promoted this and got the word out on it.

01:36:30.000 Millions of people woke up with the four showings on C-SPAN.

01:36:35.000 Going back to Ralph Shoman, a human rights activist, author, lecturer, he's been all over the world, on the front line seeing this.

01:36:41.000 and he was getting into the massacres and refugee camps, but then he jumped into 9-11 being a foundational event really to expand the global war economy.

01:36:52.000 Ralph, 9-11 being an inside job.

01:36:55.000 I met you in Chicago.

01:36:56.000 You eloquently spoke on this.

01:36:58.000 Tie it together for us.

01:36:59.000 In 2001, I mean, with World Trade Center Uncensored History, which is a seven-hour broadcast on WBAI, and then 9-11 in the capitalist state, 9/11 false flag operation, the smoking guns of 9/11.

01:37:14.000 Like you, we've been at this non-stop since the event, but I want to mention one thing to you.

01:37:20.000 You know, in 1993, and I wrote a piece about it at the time, the World Trade Center was bombed.

01:37:27.000 Now, at the time of the World Trade Center bombing, it was immediately imputed to Qaeda-like figures and Osama bin Laden, yes?

01:37:35.000 In fact, This was an FBI operation.

01:37:38.000 Emad Ali Salem, an FBI operative and a high-ranking Egyptian intelligence officer, was sent in by the FBI office in New York into the mosque of the blind Egyptian sheikh, Sheikh Omar Abdur-Rahman, both in New Jersey and in Brooklyn.

01:37:53.000 He carried... he wore a wire through all these meetings.

01:37:56.000 He recruited young kids to come to meetings to discuss what was happening in Egypt, the oppression in Egypt.

01:38:02.000 And he had these kids on a need-to-know basis.

01:38:05.000 He arranged the safe house.

01:38:08.000 He arranged the dynamite.

01:38:10.000 Well, it's the same thing in Miami.

01:38:12.000 It's the same thing up in Canada.

01:38:14.000 They always, they create the groups out of young, many times on welfare, mentally retarded young people. 0.99

01:38:20.000 They train them. 0.79

01:38:21.000 They give them the bombs.

01:38:22.000 They give them the detonators.

01:38:23.000 Please continue.

01:38:24.000 The kids didn't even know what they were involved with.

01:38:26.000 And the woman who actually arranged the bridal rent-a-van and the safe house was Guzi Hadass of the Mossad.

01:38:34.000 Now, the interesting thing about all of this is that after the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, when Imad Ali Salem was arraigned, he said, well, my FBI controllers told me that they'd give me dynamite that wouldn't detonate.

01:38:50.000 That's in Ralph Blumenthal's piece in the New York Times, in the LA Times, in the Village Voice.

01:38:55.000 This is nothing arcane.

01:38:57.000 This was a false flag operation from day one and it was the predicate for the 2001 events.

01:39:03.000 By the way, that's under Clinton's watch.

01:39:05.000 It's not one or another.

01:39:06.000 This is the 1% that controls 90% of the national wealth.

01:39:11.000 It's systemic.

01:39:12.000 And to bring this into relation to what's happening in Lebanon, how has this thing been presented, this current onslaught into Lebanon?

01:39:21.000 It's supposedly based upon, quote, kidnapping, unquote, of Israeli soldiers, two Israeli soldiers.

01:39:28.000 Here's an article, July 25th, by Joshua Frank.

01:39:32.000 Kidnapped in Israel or captured in Lebanon.

01:39:34.000 Justification for Israel's invasion on thin ice. 0.96

01:39:38.000 He says the original story, as the media tells it, goes something like this.

01:39:42.000 Hezbollah attacked an Israeli border patrol station, killing six and taking two soldiers hostage.

01:39:47.000 The incident happened inside Israeli territory.

01:39:52.000 Here is the Agence France-Presse.

01:39:54.000 Lebanese police forces confirmed that two Israeli soldiers were captured in the southern Lebanon in the area of Ait Taa al-Shaab When an Israeli Special Forces unit had attacked the area.

01:40:08.000 Here's the French news site, www.voltaire.net.org.

01:40:13.000 Let me just stop you, Ralph.

01:40:14.000 You may not be aware of this.

01:40:16.000 UPI, AP, there's got to be ten news wires all actually did report that they were part of the Special Forces units over the border.

01:40:25.000 So that's not debatable.

01:40:26.000 I was leading up to Associated Press, Hindustan Times, WSNBC, National Council of Arab-Americans based in Lebanon, first-hand reports.

01:40:35.000 There's absolutely no ambiguity about this.

01:40:38.000 Well, this goes back to Bush's White House memo, where he tells Blair we can fly a plane low, paint it up, like UN, to get it shot down.

01:40:45.000 I mean, they do this.

01:40:46.000 They send troops out as bait.

01:40:48.000 Now, here's the San Francisco Chronicle on July 21st.

01:40:51.000 Israel set war plan a year ago.

01:40:54.000 Of all Israel's wars since 1948, this is the one for which Israel is most prepared, said Gerald Steinberg, Professor of Political Science at Bar-Ilaq University.

01:41:02.000 We covered that at nauseam, and I'm glad you're bringing it up.

01:41:05.000 The point here is, Israel is a war economy. 0.91

01:41:09.000 Just like we are, and we've got to have wars.

01:41:11.000 So what is the goal?

01:41:14.000 We know that Bush gave the ultimatum to Iran.

01:41:16.000 This is the beginning of the war drums.

01:41:18.000 They're hoping to go ahead and bombard Syria. 1.00

01:41:20.000 The neocons went public a week ago saying our government supports an attack on Syria.

01:41:27.000 They've tried to claim that the troops were taken to Iran that were captured, so we need to attack Iran.

01:41:31.000 Similar to the fraud story of a month ago, two months ago, that Iran makes Jews wear yellow stars.

01:41:37.000 It's like saying Saddam was throwing babies out of incubators, PR lie.

01:41:42.000 We know the government spends $118 million on fake letters to the editor, $1.6 billion in fake newscasts.

01:41:48.000 We know they're lying to us, so in your educated view, you've been over there, you've been watching this, I'm trying to find out what do you think Israel is trying to get out of this latest push?

01:41:59.000 The latest push is about emptying the population of southern Lebanon, occupying Lebanon once again, and preparing for the dismantling of Syria and Iran ad syriatum. 0.90

01:42:09.000 Look, we published in the Hidden History of Zionism the Oded Yinon Plan of 1979, a strategy for the 1980s which called for the dismantling of each Middle Eastern state into its ethnic and religious components. 0.65

01:42:24.000 And they reiterated that in 1983, they want to break Iraq into three parts, Syria into two parts, Iran into six parts, and then turn each ethnic group against each other, and then have armored military citadels that just simply oversee the ethnic cleansing and extermination.

01:42:39.000 But that is precisely what 9-11 was brought to facilitate.

01:42:47.000 Because the U.S. 0.56

01:42:48.000 rulers had designed to deconstruct and tear apart each country in its turn, seize its resources, and it's an expression of the, you know, we're talking about a system in terminal decay here, something on the order of $79 trillion.

01:43:07.000 of debt, a paper currency that isn't worth, if it were on porous paper, where it could suggest a better use for it.

01:43:13.000 So they've got to have a war, as Brzezinski said in 97, to unify us, the slaves, against the quote, Central Asian Barbarians. 0.53

01:43:22.000 And this is the architecture of the fascist state.

01:43:24.000 As you've been documenting, as we've been with our Marshall State, the United States, with testing the waters, military rule in America, The Northern Command, all of these false flag operations which include the pandemics.

01:43:40.000 You know, one of the talks that I gave in New York recently was called, From Forging 9-11 to Creating the Next Pandemic, a System Internal D-Pay.

01:43:49.000 These pandemics, Alex, flow from military laboratory Manipulation of virus genomes, creating variants for which there is no immune response.

01:44:02.000 I know, we have the official documents, we know they continue to do it.

01:44:05.000 The PNAC document talks about legitimizing the use of race-specific bio-weapons to wipe out certain subsects of the human species.

01:44:12.000 And that's where the quarantining comes in, and that's where the introduction of the military comes in, and the detention camps... That's the smokescreen for martial law, and they've now recruited in 13,000 counties pastors and preachers, telling them the pandemic's coming, the gun confiscation is coming, the mass roundup is coming, oh, it's going to be so wonderful!

01:44:32.000 And who do you think has all of the ownership of the pharmaceutical companies, the Carlyle Group, and Mr. Rumsfeld, who made a 720%...

01:44:41.000 Profit just on his stock holdings, and Tamiflu is the same old, same old.

01:44:45.000 9-11 is... They also made money off of the antibiotic shipwreck of the anthrax attack, which they clearly launched. 0.88

01:44:53.000 You know, in the marvelous book, Clouds of Secrecy, by Lester Cole, it documents 40 years of the Pentagon releasing trillions of bacilli Across the United States, in over 218 civilian sites, as the New York Times confirmed, the subway system of New York, the school systems of Minneapolis and St.

01:45:15.000 Louis, Above all, in the Bay Area, in San Francisco, where I live, where there was a tent... But the government isn't a threat, Ralph.

01:45:22.000 It's those evil Arabs. 1.00

01:45:24.000 So what if Bayer knowingly, on purpose, put HIV and killed over a million people, 200,000 here in the U.S., with Hepatitis C? 1.00

01:45:32.000 Maybe those little hemophiliacs need to die. 1.00

01:45:35.000 Maybe they're with Al-Qaeda. 1.00

01:45:36.000 Maybe the black men needed to be given syphilis. 1.00

01:45:38.000 Maybe we needed to radiate the atomic soldiers and children. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Maybe Israel needed to kill 110,000 Jewish children with the ringworm children. 1.00

01:45:45.000 Maybe they're all with Al-Qaeda. 0.98

01:45:48.000 Well, of course, it must be, since Al-Qaeda is a construct of the Central Intelligence Agency.

01:45:53.000 I think you ordered $6 billion handed over to Osama bin Laden and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar during operation in Afghanistan.

01:46:02.000 So what we're really describing here is an assault upon our own population. 0.65

01:46:07.000 All of this is preparatory to the subjugation of the mass of our working people, who produce everything of value through their labor, that is seized and sequestered, while the entire support structure, all the gains of over 100 years, are being dismantled. 0.97

01:46:23.000 The 8-hour day, a thing of the past.

01:46:25.000 Healthcare, pensions, social services, dismantled.

01:46:28.000 Remember the woman saying to Bush, I work three jobs, he said, that's wonderful, that's uniquely American?

01:46:34.000 The standard of living is destroyed, the family is falling apart, and since you bring all this up, Ralph, I'm going to bring it up.

01:46:39.000 You know, you talk about Stalin working with the U.S. 0.81

01:46:42.000 and England to set up Israel.

01:46:43.000 Every time I see communist governments get in control, they murder their population, they enslave, the Rockefellers fly in and own all their factories, and I'm telling you, every time they use well-meaning leftists to bring it to power, then they kill you guys, and then they set up their banker paradises.

01:47:00.000 Hey, hey, take China! 1.00

01:47:01.000 Jiang Zemin said, Chinese capitalism is the greatest form of communism of the day he retired.

01:47:07.000 That was BBC, and that confused people.

01:47:10.000 I want you, as an admitted leftist, to answer that question.

01:47:14.000 The fruits... Now, everything you've said is accurate, historical, documented.

01:47:18.000 All I do is research this stuff.

01:47:20.000 You've been there.

01:47:21.000 You've seen it.

01:47:21.000 I'm saying you're telling the truth.

01:47:23.000 Now I'm asking about your solution, because the globalists created the UN, they created the communists, they're in control because they always control both sides.

01:47:32.000 Now I'm asking you to sh... I know you've shattered your paradigm, you're an intelligent person, explain to me about the blessed communists.

01:47:39.000 Well, let's make a distinction from the get-go.

01:47:42.000 I was talking about Joseph Stalin in 1947.

01:47:46.000 The Stalin regime, which is the bureaucratic dictatorship over the Soviet Union, is the result of 14 countries invading on 21 fronts after the Bolshevik insurrection, which took 10 lives, and killing over 7 million people and forming a mass famine.

01:48:02.000 What we're looking at here is the project of capitalist hegemony.

01:48:06.000 After all, we have about 5% of the population of the world within our national frontiers, and yet that 1% of the population that owns more than 95% of the rest of the population combined has control over 70% of the world's natural resources.

01:48:21.000 Ralph, what I'm telling you is... Ralph, hold on a minute.

01:48:24.000 I want to ask you another question.

01:48:25.000 I want to make a statement here.

01:48:28.000 In its human nature, It's Animal Farm.

01:48:31.000 Anytime you create anything centralized, in five minutes you'll be back to the tyranny you were at. 0.83

01:48:37.000 Every time the communists try to redistribute things, you get a bunch of big fat king rats ruling off people living in their villas with their racehorses and their 50 mistresses. 0.96

01:48:49.000 I mean, come on! 0.60

01:48:51.000 Hey Alex, look, all this nonsense about human nature, 99% of the history of the species It was a period in which there were no hierarchies and no class dominion, in which there were, in fact, bands of cooperative people.

01:49:07.000 The class rule that you're describing is about one-tenth of the history of the species over the past four to five million years.

01:49:14.000 But once humans went to agrarian, centralized societies, we saw the rise of the strong men, first through the witch doctors, and then... 0.91

01:49:25.000 Well, Alex, look, the U.S.

01:49:28.000 What we're talking about, if you want to address the question of socialism, is the democratic ownership of the means of production.

01:49:34.000 You want a democratic control of the political process, you need a democratic control of the economy as well.

01:49:39.000 Why do the bankers then fund socialism?

01:49:42.000 Why do they fund... Well, that's what we call a bubamites, if you speak Yiddish. 0.97

01:49:47.000 That's a ludicrous bit of nonsense. 0.95

01:49:50.000 Well, stay there. 0.99

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01:53:05.000 Ralph Shulman is our guest and I'm not trying to get off into a big Take the Nature Conservancy Sierra Club, two of the biggest landowners in this country.

01:53:14.000 You go to their meetings.

01:53:15.000 It is Marxist-Leninist commie world.

01:53:18.000 And you go to a smart growth conference.

01:53:21.000 It's the heads of Bank of America, Bank One, former Dallas Cowboys, Mayors, Michael Dell.

01:53:28.000 And they're all there, and they use the leftists to go push laws through to grab everybody's private property, the ranches, and they turn around and build luxury hotels, million-dollar houses on it, and the left just charges on ahead of it.

01:53:40.000 And we've got Armand Hammer, and we've got David Rockefeller with the aluminum plants in Soviet Russia, and our government propping them up.

01:53:47.000 And it's the same thing with the oligarchs over there right now in Russia.

01:53:51.000 Every time one gets arrested, it turns out that the Rothschilds really own it. 0.95

01:53:56.000 Mr. Shulman, you're saying that there aren't corrupt, evil communists in these regimes, and that there aren't collusion with these big financial interests?

01:54:04.000 Let's be clear about this.

01:54:06.000 There's a structure of power in the United States.

01:54:09.000 It's the ownership of the means of production, the concentration of power in the hands of the commanders of the heights of the economy.

01:54:17.000 Robert Townsend, who was the president of Avis and American Express, who wrote a book called Up the Organization, described it very well.

01:54:24.000 He calculated that about 5,000 people command what he called the control, rather the commanding heights of the U.S.

01:54:31.000 economy.

01:54:33.000 That is a structure of power that captures the state and the political process.

01:54:38.000 The two parties are really one big property party.

01:54:41.000 Ralph, Ralph, Ralph, Ralph, I agree with you.

01:54:44.000 Everybody knows that.

01:54:45.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:54:46.000 Everybody knows that.

01:54:47.000 Let me address the question that you raised, Alex. 0.60

01:54:49.000 Which is that the movement for democratization of the economy, for popular control over decision-making, is somehow funded by the bankers, which is ridiculous!

01:55:00.000 The bankers have no relationship to the struggle of oppressed people to remove the dictatorship of capitalism.

01:55:07.000 Let me counter that and explain what I'm saying.

01:55:10.000 Here's an example.

01:55:11.000 The brand of national healthcare we're going to get It's where they're going to tax all of us at exorbitant levels and then just give our money to the private institutions.

01:55:25.000 These private institutions are bigger than governments, as you know.

01:55:29.000 44 of the 100 biggest economies are corporations.

01:55:31.000 Big corporations openly lobby for big government to extract our wealth and to then give it to themselves.

01:55:38.000 And then I hear the left saying, we need big government to counter the corporations.

01:55:43.000 It's not, I don't know what left you're talking about, Alex.

01:55:47.000 What we're describing, we raise the question of medicine and the national health care program.

01:55:53.000 It's the insurance companies that have the control over health care in the United States.

01:55:58.000 We could have, look, there's a very fundamental issue here.

01:56:03.000 The trillions upon trillions of dollars that are involved in the waste economy of capital exploitation are sufficient to provide Free education, free housing, free food, birthright like the air we breathe.

01:56:20.000 We could wipe out every slum in the United States of a mass transit system, a national health care program, universal health care from the cradle to the grave. 1.00

01:56:30.000 Plenty left over.

01:56:32.000 The productive capacity of this society is huge, but the resources are commandeered.

01:56:38.000 It's a system that's based upon the anarchy of capital exploitation.

01:56:43.000 So, Ralph, you deny that the global corporations actually take control of governments and expand the power of those governments through government power to suck the population dry.

01:56:54.000 The state is nothing more than the cat's paw.

01:56:57.000 The state is the instrument for administering.

01:56:59.000 It's the collective executive committee of the capitalist ruling class.

01:57:03.000 That's all it is.

01:57:05.000 But sir, what I'm telling you is, Ralph, Ralph, the capitalists, as you describe them, are not free markets.

01:57:11.000 They're nothing but crime syndicates that have created big government.

01:57:15.000 Look how big our government is now!

01:57:17.000 That's all.

01:57:18.000 The free market economy, as you describe it, is a quaint historical event of the 18th century.

01:57:25.000 Power is concentrated in oligopoly and monopoly.

01:57:27.000 I'll tell you what, five more minutes.

01:57:29.000 Five more minutes, Ralph, so we can plug some of your sites and stuff.

01:57:33.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.

01:57:40.000 Hello, folks.

01:57:45.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:53.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:07.000 There can be no doubt that in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, the elite, the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, and others, funded every left-wing group you can imagine, There's no doubt they pushed for the quote social welfare net to get people dependent, to expand their control like we're domesticated animals, pigs in a trough.

01:58:27.000 And there's no doubt that from the big government they've grown, they've now gotten a mechanism to extract the rest of our wealth and to ensure that we don't own any property or have any way of being independent.

01:58:38.000 They've broken up the family with their CI operative Gloria Steinem, with the CI's money to set up the leftist women's movement. 0.95

01:58:44.000 It's all totally controlled.

01:58:46.000 And, uh, I got off into this.

01:58:47.000 Ralph Shulman has done a lot of good stuff in his life.

01:58:50.000 There's a lot of these well-meaning people in this who go out and fight corruption, fight oppression, do all these good things.

01:58:55.000 And then, Ralph, I think your solution is a bad one in the final equation.

01:58:59.000 I mean, what is the solution to the murder in Palestine, the corruption here, the fact that our government and the corporate interests will probably release some horrible pandemic on us soon. 0.98

01:59:07.000 They've already done it in the past.

01:59:09.000 I mean, what's the solution to fight these people?

01:59:11.000 The mass of our population, particularly the working class, is organizing the trade unions as the wages struggle.

01:59:16.000 We need our own political instrument.

01:59:18.000 As the Labour Party slogan says, the bosses have two parties.

01:59:21.000 We need one of our own.

01:59:22.000 The control over the population is in the hands of banking and corporate capital.

01:59:28.000 The state is its instrument, is a captured instrument.

01:59:30.000 What we're seeking to do is to democratize this, to have decisions that affect people's lives under the control of the population.

01:59:39.000 Bureaucracy and centralization have nothing to do with social ownership, nothing to do with the democratic control over decision-making with respect to the economy.

01:59:48.000 The United Nations is nothing but a collection of countries with the same class structure as exists within the United States itself.

01:59:56.000 In each of these respective societies, Alex, you have a ruling oligarchy, Well, let me ask you a question.

02:00:05.000 Will we be like North Korea, and then have the son get the power from his daddy? 0.86

02:00:09.000 Or maybe when the brother gets sick, the little brother takes over? 0.97

02:00:13.000 I mean, look at these dirtbag communist countries! 0.58

02:00:16.000 These are not communist governments.

02:00:17.000 The Stalinism you describe has as much in common with socialism as the early Jesus has with the medieval church or the Inquisition. 0.68

02:00:28.000 You are taking an example here of bureaucratic and dictated...

02:00:34.000 Because that's what always happens with a complex system, Ralph.

02:00:38.000 That's what's always going to happen, Ralph.

02:00:42.000 There's nothing always about it.

02:00:45.000 We're not honeybees.

02:00:46.000 We're not army ants, bro.

02:00:48.000 We don't operate off simple pheromones.

02:00:50.000 Yeah, but who's talking about army ants except people who create ideological propaganda for the ruling class?

02:00:56.000 No.

02:00:57.000 That's contempt for ordinary people.

02:00:59.000 That's disdain for people... No, no, no, no.

02:01:02.000 That's the opposite, Ralph.

02:01:04.000 That's the opposite.

02:01:05.000 I'm saying we're not mindless army ants, and so communism would never work because we're not a communal... Communism, in your mind, Alex, is the model of Stalin.

02:01:16.000 It has absolutely nothing in common with social ownership of the means of production or the democratic... Let me ask you a question, Ralph.

02:01:22.000 Ralph, in your dream system, Could I own my own 100 acres?

02:01:31.000 Alex, the question of ownership has to do with popular ownership and control.

02:01:37.000 Democratic ownership and control.

02:01:39.000 It's 1% of the population that owns 95% of the national wealth.

02:01:43.000 Oh, so I'll suddenly get some land!

02:01:47.000 The issue before us, the 9-11 state, That which requires the militarization of the state, that which requires martial law, is that handful of rulers who have the need to dominate and control and exploit the mass of the population.

02:02:03.000 What we're describing and what we ought to be advocating together is democratic control over decision making in the political life and in the economy of the society.

02:02:13.000 So that decisions as to what is produced are made on the basis of what people need, not how people talk.

02:02:19.000 Ralph, we've got to have you back on sometime to debate this.

02:02:22.000 I appreciate you coming on with us.

02:02:23.000 Fire out a website real quick.

02:02:25.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 Let's have people get in touch with www.takingaim.info.

02:02:32.000 www.takingaim.info.

02:02:35.000 And Ralph, thanks for joining us.

02:02:36.000 We've got links to your site up on InfoWars.

02:02:38.000 All right, Alex.

02:02:39.000 Listen, we gotta deal more with the question of what replaces the system in control.

02:02:43.000 I understand.

02:02:44.000 I understand.

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02:05:56.000 Coming up in a few minutes, I'm going to start airing the 13 minutes we've got of what Vanity Fair posted of the tapes they got from NORAD.

02:06:12.000 Well, they're openly talking about, I've never seen this much real-world stuff going on during an exercise.

02:06:17.000 Is this part of the exercise?

02:06:19.000 Because the Pentagon and the CIA were running the drills and flying hijacked jets into all the targets that got hit and more to confuse everybody.

02:06:29.000 And now this is all coming out in the media, but with their big spin on it.

02:06:32.000 I've got to finish up with Ralph Shulman, though.

02:06:35.000 You know, the guy has done a lot of interesting work.

02:06:37.000 He's a bleeding heart.

02:06:39.000 And he just can't get past the fact that everywhere communists are in control.

02:06:43.000 It's hereditary, it's totally thuggish, it's absolute centralization immediately.

02:06:49.000 And the global crime syndicate, the bankers, figured out that there was a new renaissance forming.

02:06:58.000 That there were a lot of people waking up to what the robber barons were doing, who operated like thugs, like gangsters.

02:07:05.000 It wasn't free market.

02:07:07.000 You know, I mean, all these terms, capitalist, communist, it means nothing.

02:07:10.000 There's command and control, and there's free market, there's freedom.

02:07:13.000 I mean, that's the real spectrum.

02:07:15.000 In fact, if you want to get down to brass tacks, on one end of the spectrum, You have anarchy, and then on the other end of the spectrum you have total command and control.

02:07:26.000 Anarchy is impossible in groups larger than five to ten people.

02:07:31.000 So we want to be in the middle of that spectrum, a constitutional republic with a rule of law that protects the minority, the individual, as well as the majority, and you want a free market, you want private property ownership, because then that forms millions of little bulwarks against centralization.

02:07:50.000 You want two different branches of the legislative branch with two different groups subdivided into that.

02:07:57.000 All these different fractures, all these different facets.

02:08:00.000 Then you have the courts with the state set against the federal.

02:08:04.000 And then you've got the two different parties who then are appointing people to the courts.

02:08:09.000 So they're at odds with each other.

02:08:11.000 Gridlock is good to keep a Napoleon, a Hitler, from coming to power, to keep a centralization from taking place, to protect the middle class, and to allow, for the first time in history, not a perfect system, but the best system we've seen, to open things up so that wealth can then be created. 0.75

02:08:35.000 I mean, we have huge populations all over the world.

02:08:38.000 You judge a tree by its fruit.

02:08:40.000 How could 4% of the world population have more than half the wealth?

02:08:46.000 Then the elites took over in the last hundred years, and we have seen that what 4% having half has switched.

02:08:55.000 The elite then started taking the wealth from that 4%, that tiny fraction in the US and England and Europe, started taking the wealth from that 4% that had over half the world's wealth.

02:09:06.000 Until now, the Anglo-American establishment has about 80% of the world's wealth, but almost none of that in the actual aggregate is in the people's hands.

02:09:18.000 And you cannot explain this to these bleeding-heart communists.

02:09:21.000 You cannot explain that everywhere there's oppression and stuff going on, they'd send the communists.

02:09:27.000 They'd send the bleeding-hearts.

02:09:28.000 They'd send the good salesmen who really believed what they were pushing and saying.

02:09:32.000 That's what evil does.

02:09:33.000 They have people as fronts who don't even know it.

02:09:37.000 Close your mic, guys.

02:09:39.000 Then, hey guys there at the network, will you close your microphone for me?

02:09:44.000 Thanks a lot.

02:09:45.000 Sorry, I tried to ignore it, but then the talking started up and I couldn't do anything.

02:09:48.000 Let me go back now.

02:09:48.000 Sorry.

02:09:50.000 So, so, I'm sorry, I kind of got distracted there.

02:09:54.000 So, so this is the point that I'm, that I'm trying to get at.

02:09:58.000 Alright?

02:09:59.000 I've really studied this.

02:10:00.000 I've looked at it.

02:10:01.000 I've read the communist documents.

02:10:02.000 I've read the fascist documents.

02:10:04.000 I've read the founding fathers documents.

02:10:06.000 I've read the Greek philosophers.

02:10:08.000 I have really looked at this and humans are full of avarice, greed, and lust.

02:10:14.000 Alright?

02:10:16.000 And all of us don't have all three of those, but most of us got one or more.

02:10:19.000 Alright?

02:10:21.000 I mean, I definitely got the lust part going.

02:10:24.000 I don't know about avarice or greed.

02:10:26.000 So, The point I'm trying to get at here is that everything is about building impediments to power, to consolidation, so you can then build your own little castle.

02:10:40.000 And he wouldn't answer that question, folks.

02:10:42.000 We've got family property that we've developed, that we've used, that has supported families for generations, I guess eight generations now.

02:10:53.000 That would all be gone.

02:10:56.000 And you'd have a bunch of little greedy people who've never built anything in their lives, a bunch of couch potatoes, running at the head of one of their little Commissar Controllers, and the bankers are going to do this, don't worry, it's going to happen, it just won't be called communism.

02:11:09.000 And they'll come and they'll take it, and then our family property will go into the communal Nature Conservancy or Sierra Club, and they'll build hotels on it where the elite can go enjoy themselves, and play five-star golf.

02:11:21.000 That's how it is in Austin.

02:11:22.000 It always happens.

02:11:23.000 Notice he said, well, Stalin wasn't a communist.

02:11:26.000 Well, Cuba isn't.

02:11:26.000 Well, North Korea isn't.

02:11:28.000 That's right.

02:11:29.000 My point is, that stuff only works with army ants and bees.

02:11:33.000 Humans are too smart.

02:11:36.000 Either, if people get oppressed in the communist system, the way they fight back in Romania or Russia, is you just quit working.

02:11:43.000 You just lay around.

02:11:45.000 You're not going to get anything anyways.

02:11:49.000 You just cannot explain this to people like Ralph Shoman.

02:11:56.000 And to say it is preposterous, to say that it is preposterous that the global financial oligarchy, the crime syndicate, Funded fascism!

02:12:12.000 Funded communism!

02:12:14.000 Funded every movement of consolidation and big government is... That is a joke! 1.00

02:12:20.000 That is stupid! 1.00

02:12:23.000 Carol Quigley, top Georgetown theoretician for the New World Order for decades, head of the political science department. 1.00

02:12:31.000 His protégé was Bill Clinton and many others.

02:12:33.000 He wrote a book and he said, I've got it here, in fact I did a reprint of my book, The Sentimentality.

02:12:39.000 He said, of course we fund the communists, of course we fund the capitalists, of course we fund the fascists. 0.99

02:12:45.000 We fund and control everything that centralizes so the Anglo-American roundtable groups And to think that the British intelligence in the late 1900s wrote the Communist Manifesto and had their British agent Marks and Engels go out and push it on a bunch of stupid people. 0.99

02:13:13.000 A bunch of poor, downtrodden, ignorant people who'd been in serfdom and slavery in Europe and never been out of it. 0.96

02:13:20.000 And a bunch of people were breaking out of it and the elite was losing their market share. 0.97

02:13:24.000 From narcotics to textiles to armaments.

02:13:28.000 Factories were popping up.

02:13:29.000 There was new wealth everywhere.

02:13:31.000 National banking organizations wrote memos about it.

02:13:33.000 It's all public.

02:13:35.000 Ripping their hair out because they couldn't get control and communism was a boon.

02:13:42.000 They went to the poor, super blue collar people. 0.97

02:13:47.000 Not the middle class, who was in horror of it, and said, we're gonna get those bourgeoisie, we're gonna get the middle class for you, we're gonna... They've been using you!

02:13:58.000 And the big bankers came in, and they killed tens of millions of people, and they kicked the Ukrainians off their farms, and they kicked the poor little Chinese peasants off their farms, and 60 million Chinese died, their government admits they did it, and they cooked up human beings in giant pots to feed the communist armies, Well, they did it! 0.79

02:14:19.000 And you look at the fruit China's bore. 0.99

02:14:22.000 New Order loves them.

02:14:23.000 Factories everywhere.

02:14:24.000 Slave goods.

02:14:24.000 Totally in bed with them.

02:14:26.000 All of our missile secrets.

02:14:27.000 You look at two brothers running Cuba. 1.00

02:14:30.000 You look at a scumbag demon dwarf in North Korea who his daddy gave him power. 1.00

02:14:35.000 And look at America now. 1.00

02:14:37.000 Two cousins.

02:14:37.000 Members of the same secret fraternity.

02:14:39.000 Skull and bones.

02:14:40.000 Run for president.

02:14:41.000 Out of a pool of 15 people a year.

02:14:43.000 Out of 30 million people.

02:14:44.000 This is who we get.

02:14:46.000 You look at what's happening here in the United States.

02:14:48.000 You look at how Bush His daddy was president, now he is.

02:14:53.000 It's simple.

02:14:54.000 When you go into a tyrannical system, you start getting hereditary leadership.

02:14:59.000 And let me tell you, when you see it, you know you're hitting the bottom.

02:15:03.000 Okay?

02:15:04.000 You know you're sinking down the toilet bowl into the sewer system.

02:15:11.000 It's so sick to watch this happen.

02:15:17.000 And to know that most of the people who get it and know what's going on, Only get limited view, limited paradigm awareness, and they're never going to figure it out.

02:15:28.000 They're not going to figure it out.

02:15:31.000 And for the greater good, you've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet to build their wonderful system that never materializes, that never delivers.

02:15:43.000 All it delivers is centralization and enslavement and sorrow for the general public and centralization and total power for the elite.

02:15:51.000 And of course, in the communist system, you go fool the blue-collar, low-level workers into joining you to go rob the middle class at the behest of the elite.

02:16:00.000 The elite's always targeting the middle class.

02:16:02.000 The only place historically you'll get any upward mobility, the only place you get true renaissance, And the area that breaks the monopoly of power, and you see then the globalists then work that middle class and go, look at the lower classes.

02:16:17.000 They're coming after you.

02:16:18.000 You better join us, the elite.

02:16:20.000 So the elite then gets the fealty and the support of the middle class.

02:16:25.000 While they meanwhile are controlling the underclass, who they use as an attack dog to threaten and destroy and consolidate the middle class. 0.98

02:16:34.000 And this is why the New World Order is in power, because they know how to control both sides of the coin.

02:16:39.000 They know how to control the opposition.

02:16:42.000 They know how to get the job done, and that's what they're doing.

02:16:45.000 And that's why, if they have their way, we'll be 10-15 years from now in urban super compact cities, As billions are dying worldwide with super-engineered plagues, with only the elite having the antidote, and you will be sitting there watching television, watching the holoscan on the deck of your living room.

02:17:07.000 As your whole family dies, and as you prepare to die, and you will remember that I told you, and I knew, and that I warned you, not because I'm a genius, but because I understand their system, and I've studied it.

02:17:20.000 So, guaranteed, I want the police to listen, you are going to die, and your family is going to die.

02:17:26.000 You understand? 0.99

02:17:27.000 This elite is going to kill you, it's official, it's declassified. 1.00

02:17:30.000 I am going to die, my entire family is going to die. 1.00

02:17:34.000 Your family, all of you, almost everyone, 9 out of 10 people listening, you are going to be killed by the government in the next 10 to 15 years, maybe sooner. 0.89

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02:21:49.000 The establishment's in trouble.

02:21:52.000 Their official 9-11 story is imploding.

02:21:54.000 Even Lee Hamilton is in a major news publication today saying that, yeah, a lot of people think the government carried out the attack, quote, think it's an inside job.

02:22:02.000 And so they release a few hours compared to the hundreds of hours of tapes they've got.

02:22:08.000 But even those tapes that were released to Vanity Fair that are on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now are filled with little jewels of how they were running drills that day of the exact same targets at the exact same time being hit by planes.

02:22:22.000 Which, that's all admitted, but here is NORAD confused by the drills.

02:22:28.000 Here's a clip we played earlier first, and I'll play the parts you haven't heard yet, where they're talking about, boy, this is the most real-world stuff I've ever seen during an exercise.

02:22:37.000 Here it is.

02:22:42.000 I've never seen so much real world stuff happen during an exercise.

02:22:48.000 Alright, now we're going to get into the clips we haven't played and I'm just going to roll a few minutes of the clips and then I'll comment and then we'll play a few more minutes and then later before we end this hour we'll talk a little bit more about what's happening in Israel and how serious this escalation has gotten and then we'll take some calls.

02:23:03.000 But go ahead and go back to the clips they haven't heard yet.

02:23:07.000 Is there any?

02:23:08.000 What?

02:23:08.000 Hello, sir.

02:23:08.000 The 737?

02:23:08.000 Wait, what?

02:23:09.000 Who are you talking to?

02:23:11.000 Pass it to them.

02:23:13.000 Oh my God.

02:23:14.000 - Hey, what?

02:23:14.000 - The world trains that-- - Who are you talking to?

02:23:17.000 - Ah, good point.

02:23:20.000 - Get past, pass it to them.

02:23:21.000 - - - - - Oh my God. - - Oh God. - - Oh my God.

02:23:37.000 It's not on the news, it's a plane that crashed in the World Trade Center.

02:23:46.000 Godspeed, New York!

02:23:48.000 Here, Dan, this one's for Peggy.

02:23:52.000 See if they lost altitude on that plane altogether.

02:23:54.000 Yes ma'am, did you just hear the information regarding the World Trade Center?

02:23:59.000 No.

02:23:59.000 Being hit by an aircraft?

02:24:00.000 I'm sorry?

02:24:01.000 Being hit by an aircraft.

02:24:03.000 It's on the World News.

02:24:07.000 Okay, now we do.

02:24:08.000 Yes, this is what I got.

02:24:09.000 You hear it, put that in, put it in.

02:24:10.000 Possible news, a 737 just hit the World Trade Center.

02:24:13.000 This is a real world war.

02:24:14.000 And we're trying to confirm this.

02:24:17.000 Okay, continue taking the fighters down to the New York City area, JFK area, as best as you can.

02:24:23.000 Make sure that the FAA clears your route all the way through.

02:24:26.000 Do what we gotta do, okay?

02:24:29.000 Just press with it.

02:24:30.000 It looks like somebody... It looks like this guy could have hit the World Trade Center.

02:24:36.000 Yeah, he crashed into the World Trade Center.

02:24:40.000 That is the aircraft that crashed into the World Trade Center?

02:24:42.000 Yep.

02:24:43.000 Disregard the tail number.

02:24:46.000 Disregard the tail number.

02:24:47.000 He did crash into the World Trade Center.

02:24:48.000 That's what we believe, yes.

02:24:50.000 Copy that.

02:24:50.000 Thank you, sir.

02:24:53.000 Go ahead.

02:24:55.000 We need to have, are you giving confirmation that Max 11 was going?

02:24:59.000 No, we're not going to confirm that at this time.

02:25:02.000 We just got this crashed in.

02:25:05.000 Is anyone up there tracking primary on this guy's steer?

02:25:08.000 No.

02:25:08.000 We had, it was about 15 miles east of JFK.

02:25:10.000 8 miles east of JFK was our last primary hit.

02:25:12.000 It did slow down in speed.

02:25:14.000 Alright, stop it right there for a moment.

02:25:19.000 Now, they know that these aircraft have been hijacked for an hour, but they decide to not release the tapes up until right around that point.

02:25:27.000 That's what they're releasing.

02:25:28.000 So we get to hear them talking about launching fighters.

02:25:30.000 Meanwhile, Cheney is in control of those fighters and not letting them have shoot-down powers.

02:25:34.000 We know that.

02:25:36.000 Then it's another, what, 45 minutes from the first plane hitting until the third one hits the Pentagon.

02:25:43.000 And then we have Norman Mineta's testimony about the aid, sitting there saying it's 50 miles out, it's 30 miles out, it's 20 miles out, it's 10 miles out.

02:25:50.000 Does that order still stand?

02:25:52.000 Cheney gets mad.

02:25:53.000 Have you heard any orders to the contrary?

02:25:55.000 So again, they claim that these tapes show how NORAD screwed up.

02:25:58.000 NORAD was in the middle of a gigantic drill of the exact same targets getting hit.

02:26:02.000 That's why they keep saying, is this real world?

02:26:04.000 This is real world.

02:26:05.000 Keep rolling.

02:26:07.000 Yeah, it slowed down below, down to 300 knots.

02:26:09.000 Okay.

02:26:10.000 But that was the last thing we had on him.

02:26:12.000 Okay.

02:26:12.000 And then we lost him.

02:26:14.000 Yeah, and then we lost him.

02:26:18.000 They have a second possible hijacker.

02:26:23.000 Is this explosion part of it that we're looking at now on TV?

02:26:26.000 Boston is now grounding all staff out of Boston at the A-Center.

02:26:31.000 Where they're working at right now?

02:26:33.000 He was in Whiskey 105.

02:26:37.000 Second plane's now here.

02:26:38.000 Okay, Foxy.

02:26:39.000 Plug in.

02:26:40.000 Okay, Foxy, this is what I foresee that we probably need to do. 0.93

02:26:45.000 We need to talk to FAA.

02:26:46.000 Okay, Fauci, this is what I foresee that we probably need to do.

02:26:59.000 We need to talk to FAA.

02:27:00.000 We need to tell them, if this stuff is going to keep on going, we need to take those fighters and put them over Manhattan.

02:27:05.000 Okay?

02:27:07.000 That's the best thing.

02:27:09.000 The second plane's hit.

02:27:10.000 We're almost an hour and a half into the hijackings, and the fighters, which were ten miles away, still aren't there.

02:27:20.000 Okay?

02:27:22.000 An hour and a half later, they're not even over New York yet.

02:27:27.000 Does the order still stand, Vice President?

02:27:29.000 Have you heard any orders to the contrary?

02:27:31.000 We'll be right back.

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02:30:51.000 All right, let's continue with the tapes. .

02:31:06.000 See, the establishment has hundreds of hours of these tapes.

02:31:09.000 So they release 30 hours of Vanity Fair, who then releases just 15 minutes or so of the tapes, and they tell you, oh, oh, the Pentagon people almost got indicted for lying.

02:31:23.000 They said they didn't screw up.

02:31:24.000 This proves they dropped the ball and screwed up.

02:31:27.000 Oh, the conspiracy is exposed.

02:31:30.000 Because they know they can't come out and continually say they did nothing wrong, so they've got to fall back on, okay, we really screwed up that day.

02:31:37.000 Continuing with these just-released-today tapes from some of the NORAD chatter.

02:31:43.000 Go ahead and roll it.

02:31:44.000 If we don't know, let's get them over to Manhattan.

02:31:46.000 At least we've got some kind of play.

02:31:52.000 My recommendation, if we have to take anybody out large aircraft, we use M9s in the face.

02:31:57.000 We'll begin them out of our 1F and 8B.

02:32:07.000 Give me a location.

02:32:10.000 Third aircraft hijacked heading towards Washington.

02:32:12.000 Alright, stop it right there.

02:32:15.000 Now the second aircraft has hit the towers.

02:32:17.000 They're calling it a quote big explosion.

02:32:19.000 They don't know yet that that's happened.

02:32:21.000 You'll hear them announce it later.

02:32:23.000 We're talking about a third aircraft headed towards Washington.

02:32:27.000 And so this goes on for another 45 minutes or so.

02:32:30.000 I mean, this is just mind-blowing. 0.81

02:32:36.000 And then you heard him talk about it, we have to shoot down the aircraft, you know, let's use a certain type of munition, he quote, in their face.

02:32:45.000 But then when they start giving the request, because this isn't in the tapes, but we know this did happen and it's been in the news, that Dick Cheney gave an order.

02:32:52.000 They won't say what that order is, but clearly that was the stand-down order.

02:32:57.000 So let's continue rolling the tape.

02:33:02.000 Okay, American Airlines is still airborne.

02:33:04.000 Eleven, the first guy, he's heading towards Washington.

02:33:07.000 Okay, I think we need to scramble Langley right now, and I'm going to take the fighters from Otis and try to chase this guy down, if I can find him.

02:33:15.000 They're probably not squawking anything anyway.

02:33:18.000 I mean, obviously these guys are in the cockpit.

02:33:19.000 These guys are smart.

02:33:20.000 Yeah, they knew exactly what they wanted to do.

02:33:22.000 Hit pause again.

02:33:22.000 These guys are smart.

02:33:24.000 Yeah, they knew exactly what they wanted to do.

02:33:26.000 Hit pause again.

02:33:31.000 These guys are smart.

02:33:33.000 A few months before, as Muhammad Adda was creating as an intelligence operative of this government, his "history" as a hijacker, he believed testing defenses, again, they all do it, the Navy SEALs, the FBI, the BATF, they all practice getting into embassies, getting into airports, getting into government buildings, getting into sports stadiums, you hear about it all the time. getting into government buildings, getting into sports stadiums, you hear They couldn't even get a Cessna off the ground and threw a fit and jumped out of it. 0.51

02:33:58.000 But they are Conducting these incredible, just unbelievably amazing maneuvers.

02:34:06.000 Hitting three out of their four targets and of course would have hit their fourth if someone wouldn't have followed orders for a stand down.

02:34:12.000 Somebody didn't follow orders and went ahead and had 93 shot down.

02:34:16.000 Which kind of screwed up the official story.

02:34:19.000 Imagine if that plane would have hit the Capitol as it was meant to.

02:34:22.000 We'd be in total martial law right now.

02:34:25.000 Continue rolling the tape.

02:34:28.000 Have you asked, have you asked the question what you're going to do if we actually find this guy?

02:34:33.000 Are we going to shoot him down if they've got passengers on board?

02:34:35.000 Have you talked about that?

02:34:36.000 Have you asked the question?

02:34:39.000 - You got quick to plan a little in the E to the S-Base.

02:34:41.000 Now you want to go to Baltimore? - Yes, sir.

02:34:43.000 We're not going to take him in with E3D six.

02:34:46.000 - Okay, once he goes to Baltimore, what are we supposed to do? - He's talking to him.

02:34:51.000 Notice that one of the controllers at NORAD is saying, and we asked what we're going to do if we actually catch one of these guys.

02:34:57.000 You see, you're just hearing some of the side chatter from lower downs from these different NORAD facilities and FAA facilities back and forth all over the country.

02:35:08.000 They're actually trying to give orders.

02:35:10.000 They're actually trying to get things done, but you notice they haven't gotten orders so they can give orders, so they're saying, has anybody asked what happens if we actually catch these guys?

02:35:20.000 And this is the best stuff the government can release to try to bolster their official story.

02:35:25.000 It actually destroys it.

02:35:27.000 The problem is the general public is so dumbed down, even if they listen to this, they won't know how to interpret it.

02:35:32.000 Or they might hear 5 seconds or 10 seconds on ABC Nightly News, and they'll spin it to their own aim.

02:35:38.000 But notice, has anybody talked to the higher-ups about what we're supposed to do when we actually catch these guys?

02:35:43.000 And the NORAD commanders are saying, well, we need to, you know, go ahead and shoot them down, but we haven't gotten the orders to do that.

02:35:52.000 Keep rolling.

02:35:53.000 We're going to contact us by now, auxiliary frequency 234.6.

02:35:56.000 We just need, instead of taking a hand off to us and then I'll hand them back, just tell Senators they've got to go to Baltimore. 0.93

02:36:02.000 All right, stand by.

02:36:04.000 We'll get back.

02:36:07.000 Just do it.

02:36:07.000 Okay.

02:36:09.000 I'm going to choke.

02:36:10.000 Let's pause again.

02:36:11.000 They're asking for orders to be able to then give orders in the chain of command to shoot the planes down, and they're being told, We'll get back to you by that calm voice.

02:36:23.000 Notice there's some very interesting little military style, very calm voices in all of this.

02:36:29.000 And then you can tell the good guys by how freaked out they are and how they want to do something.

02:36:34.000 But there's those nice calm voices just saying, wait, wait, gotta get orders from higher up.

02:36:39.000 Because there were hundreds of generals and hundreds of admirals and hundreds of colonels who had the power to shoot those planes down Because it was the default position until June 3rd, a couple months before 9-11, for the first time in NORAD's history, an order from the Vice President saying none of you are allowed to, only I can make that decision.

02:37:04.000 We have that document in my film, Martial Law.

02:37:06.000 It's on my website, direct link to the Pentagon.

02:37:09.000 Please continue.

02:37:10.000 Thank you.

02:37:11.000 You're very professional.

02:37:12.000 Okay.

02:37:13.000 All right, let's get our head together.

02:37:15.000 Okay.

02:37:16.000 Let me tell you this.

02:37:19.000 We've been looking.

02:37:20.000 We also lost American 77.

02:37:21.000 American 77?

02:37:22.000 Where was he proposed to head, sir?

02:37:26.000 Excuse me?

02:37:27.000 Where was that proposed to head, sir?

02:37:29.000 Okay, he was going to L.A.

02:37:31.000 also.

02:37:31.000 He was also going to L.A.?

02:37:33.000 Now, uh... From where, sir?

02:37:35.000 Uh, I think he was from Boston also.

02:37:37.000 Boston to L.A.?

02:37:38.000 Now, let me tell you this story here.

02:37:41.000 Uh, Indianapolis Center was working this guy.

02:37:44.000 What guy?

02:37:45.000 America's 77.

02:37:46.000 Okay.

02:37:47.000 At flight level 350.

02:37:48.000 However, they lost radar with him.

02:37:51.000 They lost contact with him.

02:37:52.000 They lost everything.

02:37:54.000 And they don't have any idea where he is or what happened.

02:37:58.000 Patrick, I need you to come out.

02:37:59.000 Can I help you?

02:38:01.000 VFR six miles southeast of the White House.

02:38:04.000 Six miles southeast of the White House?

02:38:05.000 Yep, east.

02:38:06.000 He's moving away?

02:38:08.000 Southeast of the White House?

02:38:09.000 Aircraft is moving away.

02:38:10.000 Moving away from the White House?

02:38:11.000 Yeah.

02:38:12.000 Okay, but he was a DVFR?

02:38:14.000 We believe he just owns a VFR aircraft.

02:38:17.000 We're not sure who it is.

02:38:18.000 Do you want to hold on a second?

02:38:19.000 Okay, Kyle.

02:38:19.000 Hit pause again.

02:38:20.000 So according to the timeline, here we are another 20 minutes later.

02:38:24.000 And they know that the aircraft is flying right over Washington.

02:38:30.000 And you heard them saying, scramble fighters, scramble fighters from Lanely, that's right there outside Washington, which has a huge intercept squadron right there.

02:38:39.000 These guys wait in the little ready rooms, in the little shacks out there with the televisions on, with the telephones and the radios, drinking coffee.

02:38:49.000 24 hours a day, folks.

02:38:50.000 I know so many pilots who have been in their Cessnas or in their Pipers, who have to fly around a big storm here in Texas, where there's all these military bases, and they're going... It's happened to my dad.

02:39:02.000 I haven't been in the plane with him when it happened, but he's a small aircraft pilot, and he's trying to fly around a storm, these storms that pop up in Texas in the summer.

02:39:10.000 And radios in and says, listen, I can't go around these storms or storms all around me.

02:39:15.000 And they're like, look, we're sorry.

02:39:16.000 You've got to land at a smaller airfield or go through the storms because you're not going to fly over Fort Hood or you're not going to fly over the Air Force Base up in Fort Worth.

02:39:25.000 You're just not going to do it.

02:39:27.000 And if you do, they launch F-16s and in minutes they're on your tail.

02:39:34.000 Thousands of these happened in the two years before 9-11.

02:39:37.000 Remember Payne Stewart?

02:39:39.000 In 2000?

02:39:41.000 But then the Air Force got up and said, we have never in the last year done one intercept.

02:39:45.000 And then we went and typed in the name of the Air Force captain, their head PR guy, who made that statement, and there he was in an AP article a year before 9-11, bragging about how they'd stopped thousands of flights and intercepted them.

02:39:59.000 I mean, it's just incredible lying!

02:40:01.000 let's go back to the tape where was that position Six Southwest.

02:40:15.000 Six Southwest is a White House deviating away.

02:40:18.000 Deviating away?

02:40:19.000 You don't have a typewriter?

02:40:21.000 You don't know who he is?

02:40:22.000 Nothing.

02:40:23.000 I have no clue.

02:40:24.000 Hopefully someone watching would have better information for you.

02:40:28.000 Okay, Foxy, I got an aircraft six miles east of the White House.

02:40:32.000 I'll have a tango.

02:40:34.000 I came from Boston.

02:40:35.000 Oh, we're gonna turn and burn and crank it up.

02:40:38.000 Alright, here we go.

02:40:40.000 This is what we're gonna do here. 0.70

02:40:41.000 We're going to turn and burn and crank it up.

02:40:43.000 All right, here we go.

02:40:44.000 This is what we're going to do here.

02:40:46.000 ...east of the White House right now.

02:40:48.000 A monster of mine.

02:40:49.000 Okay.

02:40:50.000 He's decating from...

02:40:52.000 Is that airline right now?

02:40:53.000 We're going to direct DC with my guys.

02:40:55.000 Okay.

02:40:55.000 Go ahead.

02:40:56.000 Ma'am, we are going to FBO right now with Quick 2-5.

02:41:00.000 They're going direct Washington.

02:41:02.000 Quick 2-5, we're heading to Washington right now.

02:41:04.000 Ma'am, we need to have you guided right now.

02:41:06.000 Okay.

02:41:06.000 Go ahead.

02:41:08.000 Ma'am, we are going to FEO right now with Quick 2-5.

02:41:11.000 They are going direct to Washington.

02:41:12.000 Quick 2-5 is, uh, we're heading off center right now.

02:41:15.000 Ma'am, we need that F-5 right now. 1.00

02:41:17.000 We've got to contact them on 2346.

02:41:20.000 No help?

02:41:22.000 No help?

02:41:23.000 No.

02:41:23.000 Right here.

02:41:25.000 I got him, I got him.

02:41:26.000 Yeah, we just lost track.

02:41:27.000 Did you get any point on that?

02:41:30.000 Yeah, we just did too.

02:41:31.000 Did you get a new point on that?

02:41:35.000 Okay.

02:41:36.000 Yeah, we just did two.

02:41:38.000 Hey, hit the pause.

02:41:40.000 Did you hear him talk about putting a fighter up now to counter the Flight 93 over Shanksville, Pennsylvania?

02:41:49.000 And then they said, they're on him, they're on him, we got him, we got him.

02:41:53.000 They just shot down the aircraft.

02:41:55.000 And we know the name.

02:41:58.000 We know the name of the pilot.

02:42:01.000 from the North Dakota squadron that was based for the drills in Virginia that day.

02:42:08.000 And they talked about putting an AIM-9 up.

02:42:10.000 I'm told by an Army pilot we're about to bring on that that is a Sidewinder missile.

02:42:16.000 Do you have Doug there on the line, guys?

02:42:19.000 Okay, well as soon as you get him, I want to give him a brief comment.

02:42:22.000 This is an Army pilot that Kevin Smith, who works in the office, knows.

02:42:26.000 He's a retired Army pilot and he works for an airline.

02:42:29.000 That's all we're going to say right there.

02:42:31.000 Doug, we're not going to say much more about who you are, but we know you.

02:42:35.000 You wanted to comment on some of these tapes we're playing briefly?

02:42:38.000 Yes, Alex.

02:42:40.000 I'm fascinated by the discussion, but just as a point of reference and to add some information to the discussion, every airliner, every commercial airplane has a transponder which has selectable codes.

02:42:53.000 7700 is known as hijacking.

02:42:58.000 If you select 7700 on your transponder and push the IDENT button immediately on ATC screens, your individual blip, which is your primary, your primary, will be, it's like two little lines, it'll be filled in in between and that code 7700 will flash.

02:43:19.000 They will know that that plane is immediately hijacked.

02:43:22.000 Let me ask you a question.

02:43:23.000 They knew the planes were hijacked for an hour and 45 minutes.

02:43:28.000 And then we're never able to shoot down one of the first three planes. 0.77

02:43:33.000 I mean, how ridiculous is that to you, or do you think that's normal?

02:43:36.000 Well, I absolutely cannot understand or explain that, Alex. 0.79

02:43:40.000 I do know that from the radio conversations, the ATC controllers, they were referring to primary signals or primary blips.

02:43:50.000 That is strictly the skin paint.

02:43:52.000 They're picking off the aluminum, the metal on the airplane.

02:43:55.000 That is not receiving their transponders.

02:43:57.000 So... That's what I said.

02:43:58.000 I mean, we know they turned them off.

02:44:01.000 Yes, sir.

02:44:02.000 I understand that.

02:44:02.000 I don't know.

02:44:04.000 It's unexplainable to me, Alex.

02:44:05.000 I don't know how in the world that they would not know that those planes were... Anytime an unidentified aircraft, if you're flying on an IFR flight plan, you have to have positive voice communication with ATC at least every 15 minutes.

02:44:19.000 And of course with the Payne Stewart example and many others, we know that those planes should have been identified as hijacked aircraft.

02:44:26.000 Well, even if it's not identified, they launch F-16s as soon as you're off course or don't respond.

02:44:31.000 Exactly, sir.

02:44:32.000 Yes, sir.

02:44:33.000 Exactly.

02:44:34.000 So the default position, people say, as Bob Bowman said, people say that the government did nothing so they screwed up.

02:44:42.000 No, no, no.

02:44:43.000 If the government would have done nothing but leave the default position in place, all those aircraft would have been shot down.

02:44:51.000 They did do something.

02:44:52.000 They ordered a stand down.

02:44:55.000 Yes, Alex, that's very unfortunate, but I think that's what many of us are coming to believe.

02:45:00.000 Well, I mean, you hear the people in NORAD talking to the FAA and others, and they're saying, Scramble Fighters, Scramble Fighters, and it doesn't happen.

02:45:08.000 I know, I just heard the reports.

02:45:09.000 It was fascinating, the gentleman talking about, well, let's get those planes over Manhattan right away.

02:45:14.000 It's just, I mean, there's no excuse that they weren't over Manhattan.

02:45:17.000 Yeah, that's an hour into it.

02:45:19.000 Thank you for the call.

02:45:19.000 I appreciate it.

02:45:20.000 Call us back tomorrow.

02:45:21.000 Call us back tomorrow, Doug.

02:45:23.000 Pardon me?

02:45:26.000 He's gone.

02:45:26.000 He didn't hear me.

02:45:27.000 He was on the cell phone.

02:45:28.000 Go back to the tape.

02:45:29.000 Here we go.

02:45:32.000 Uh, hold on.

02:45:33.000 Where's Langley at?

02:45:35.000 Where are the fighters?

02:45:36.000 8-9, that's a hijack. 0.57

02:45:39.000 They think it's a possible hijack.

02:45:41.000 South of Cleveland.

02:45:42.000 We have a code on him now.

02:45:44.000 Good.

02:45:44.000 Pick it up.

02:45:45.000 Find it.

02:45:45.000 We're setting him up right now.

02:45:47.000 8-9.

02:45:47.000 Boeing 767.

02:45:48.000 8-9-767.

02:45:52.000 Another one.

02:45:55.000 Okay, we'll be wet now.

02:45:57.000 Here's what we can do.

02:45:58.000 At a minimum, we can keep our guys airborne.

02:46:01.000 I mean, they don't have any guns or missiles or anything on board.

02:46:04.000 It's a presence, though.

02:46:06.000 Baltimore is saying something about aircraft over the White House.

02:46:10.000 They were worried.

02:46:13.000 Alright, hit pause.

02:46:15.000 Did you notice they were Just talking about how they were then getting some type of identification.

02:46:23.000 She goes, there's another one! 0.98

02:46:24.000 Again, there were blips all over the screens because of the drills.

02:46:28.000 And drill blips hitting all the same targets.

02:46:32.000 Can you imagine?

02:46:33.000 Because the government just so happened to have that exact drill.

02:46:38.000 I mean, come on.

02:46:39.000 Keep rolling.

02:46:41.000 Intercept.

02:46:42.000 - - - Intercept. - Intercept. Intercept and divert that aircraft away from there. - Use F-A-O for guidance.

02:47:12.000 Divert the aircraft away from the aircraft.

02:47:16.000 Intercept and divert.

02:47:18.000 Quick 2-5, I'll copy.

02:47:21.000 Copy.

02:47:21.000 Quick 2-5, divert the aircraft from the White House.

02:47:27.000 Copy, divert the aircraft.

02:47:34.000 Well, okay, we got that, do you hear that?

02:47:37.000 That aircraft over to the White House.

02:47:38.000 What's the warning?

02:47:38.000 Going to Pittsburgh?

02:47:40.000 Intercept and what else?

02:47:41.000 Okay.

02:47:41.000 - It's important, Andy.

02:47:44.000 Over.

02:47:44.000 - Okay.

02:47:45.000 Aircraft over the White House.

02:47:48.000 We got a United 93 out here.

02:47:52.000 Are you aware of that?

02:47:53.000 United 93.

02:47:55.000 We've got three more hijacked airborne.

02:47:57.000 It has a bomb on board.

02:47:58.000 A bomb on board.

02:48:00.000 And this is confirmed.

02:48:02.000 Do you have a Mode 3, sir?

02:48:04.000 No, we lost his transponder.

02:48:06.000 Now, again, earlier you clearly hear them say that they've got it.

02:48:14.000 They've shot down the plane.

02:48:15.000 So this is a bunch of different clips from different feeds.

02:48:20.000 We'll come back, try to play a few more minutes.

02:48:21.000 I'm sorry to all the callers.

02:48:22.000 I just don't have time to go to your calls.

02:48:24.000 I apologize to everybody that's holding.

02:48:27.000 We'll come back, play a few more minutes of this and comment on it.

02:48:29.000 We're trying to write a big story up on this right now.

02:48:31.000 We're trying to analyze it all as it comes in.

02:48:33.000 It just never ends around here.

02:48:35.000 And then I'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight.

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02:48:39.000 But stay with us.

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02:53:01.000 Let's go back to the clips from the NORAD whitewash audio that they're releasing which itself is incriminating for Inside Job.

02:53:09.000 Here it is.

02:53:10.000 United 9-3.

02:53:11.000 Real quick.

02:53:12.000 I got a bomb.

02:53:13.000 United what?

02:53:14.000 United 9-3.

02:53:14.000 Negative clearance to shoot.

02:53:16.000 Jamie.

02:53:16.000 1-5-2-7, Brian.

02:53:17.000 United 93, real quick.

02:53:19.000 I got a bomb.

02:53:21.000 United what?

02:53:24.000 United 93, low 350.

02:53:25.000 Negative, negative clearance to shoot.

02:53:28.000 Jamie, 1527, Brian.

02:53:31.000 Foxy, I'm not really worried about roadway.

02:53:39.000 The code word, that's perishable information.

02:53:43.000 Negative clearance to fire.

02:53:47.000 ID type fail.

02:53:51.000 Pause.

02:53:53.000 Rewind that a few seconds.

02:53:54.000 Did you hear him?

02:53:56.000 Negative, negative authorization on being able to fire at the aircraft.

02:54:03.000 Okay?

02:54:04.000 This is unbelievable.

02:54:05.000 We're going to have to analyze these really close.

02:54:09.000 Back that up about 20 seconds if you can.

02:54:10.000 Boy.

02:54:11.000 I'm going to have to really play these tomorrow on the show again and really take time to analyze them.

02:54:16.000 I want to do it tonight before tomorrow's live show.

02:54:19.000 Go ahead and roll it again.

02:54:20.000 United 93.

02:54:25.000 Real quick.

02:54:26.000 I got a bomb.

02:54:29.000 Negative. 0.95

02:54:29.000 Negative clearance to shoot. 0.95

02:54:31.000 Jamie.

02:54:31.000 1527, Brian.

02:54:31.000 Foxy.

02:54:32.000 I'm not really worried about code words.

02:54:34.000 What are the code words?

02:54:35.000 That's perishable information.

02:54:37.000 Negative clearance to fire.

02:54:40.000 Foxy?

02:54:42.000 I'm not really worried about code words.

02:54:45.000 Code words, that's perishable information.

02:54:47.000 Negative clearance supplier.

02:54:51.000 ID type tail.

02:54:54.000 Okay, what does that mean?

02:54:58.000 Quick 2-6, Qantas, hop down via suspect aircraft.

02:55:04.000 Standby.

02:55:05.000 About 15 miles, Qantas.

02:55:07.000 Qantas copies, 2-2 miles.

02:55:10.000 15 miles, Qantas.

02:55:11.000 Two miles. Fifteen miles. Fifteen miles.

02:55:17.000 One five.

02:55:18.000 Noise level, please.

02:55:24.000 It's got to be low.

02:55:27.000 Click two six.

02:55:29.000 When able to see the altitude of aircraft.

02:55:31.000 Did we get a Z-track?

02:55:36.000 Did we get a Z-track for White House?

02:55:39.000 They're working on it.

02:55:40.000 Okay.

02:55:40.000 What's this Bravo 005?

02:55:43.000 I know that.

02:55:44.000 Hey, what's this Bravo 005?

02:55:46.000 We're fine.

02:55:47.000 All right, folks.

02:55:49.000 What the...

02:55:50.000 We're out of time and it's just getting to the really amazing part.

02:55:54.000 Did you hear him twice?

02:55:56.000 Negative on authorization to fire?

02:55:58.000 Oh my gosh.

02:56:00.000 And then earlier we heard him talk about a successful shoot down.

02:56:04.000 Three other planes hijacked.

02:56:06.000 There's another blip.

02:56:08.000 Is this part of the exercise?

02:56:11.000 Man, there's a lot of real activity for an exercise.

02:56:15.000 We need somebody to give us authorization to shoot these down!

02:56:19.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:20.000 Back tomorrow, 11 to 2.

02:56:21.000 God bless you all!

Alex Jones Show - August 02, 2006

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