Alex Jones Show - 20060920_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

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00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 We have an amazing lady. 1.00

00:00:32.000 Okay.

00:00:33.000 Joining us coming up later in the broadcast on this live September 20th 2006 edition she has produced 911 Mysteries Demolitions part one of a three-part series and it hit Google Video a few days ago and has already caused a firestorm on the web.

00:00:53.000 I had a chance a few weeks ago to see the film and we now have here in the office 500 copies of it In fact, we are one of the very first sites, news websites, to have the new film.

00:01:08.000 And again, it's one thing to watch it on Google Video.

00:01:12.000 That is a shadow of actually having the high-quality DVD.

00:01:14.000 9-11 Mysteries available right now at InfoWars.com.

00:01:21.000 And she will be joining us coming up a little bit later in the broadcast.

00:01:24.000 We also have the Village Voice reporter who did one of the more fair pieces on the 9-11 truth movement.

00:01:31.000 Titled Fakes on a Plane.

00:01:34.000 He is scheduled to be joining us in studio today to talk 9-11.

00:01:40.000 We will have open phones as well.

00:01:43.000 I've got some comments on the coup d'etat over the putsch over in Thailand.

00:01:54.000 Also, the warning to the world, heated as leaders expose state terror, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, cite 9-11 in an attempt to counter fake war provocations.

00:02:05.000 We'll be getting into that also.

00:02:08.000 Colorado State Professor, one of the top global experts on climatology, disputes global warming is human-caused.

00:02:17.000 Now he believes in global warming, but he believes the mathematical evidence in the models show It's being caused by the sun, ladies and gentlemen.

00:02:28.000 Exactly what I've been saying.

00:02:29.000 Not that it's hard to figure that out.

00:02:33.000 And I don't believe you can call this from the evidence I've seen true global warming.

00:02:37.000 It's global climate change is what we're Really facing here.

00:02:44.000 Also, a really scary trio of reports here.

00:02:47.000 This first one's out of Jerusalem Post.

00:02:50.000 Expert tactical nukes needed to blast Iranian defenses. 0.97

00:02:58.000 So we'll cover that.

00:02:59.000 That meshes with retired colonel.

00:03:01.000 We are conducting military operations inside Iran right now.

00:03:05.000 The evidence is overwhelming.

00:03:08.000 We have a little CNN clip of him saying it on Wolf Blitzer, but it's probably just better to just read the transcript itself.

00:03:15.000 Another report here out of the Christian Science Monitor.

00:03:18.000 Study calls Iran the biggest beneficiary of U.S.

00:03:23.000 war on terror.

00:03:26.000 And then, speaking of national sovereignty, everyone is freaking out in Houston right now.

00:03:34.000 Over the fact that the school admits that they had a pledge of allegiance to the Mexican flag.

00:03:40.000 This is being done all over the United States.

00:03:43.000 And I'm glad that people in their little cocoon down in Houston figured this out.

00:03:48.000 And now people are going absolutely nuts.

00:03:51.000 Again, there are 10 towns, I kept saying 7, I looked it up, there are now 10 towns that fly the Mexican flag in Texas.

00:03:58.000 No American flag allowed.

00:04:00.000 No English allowed in court.

00:04:02.000 And all over the country they take the American flag down, they stomp on it in huge rallies at federal buildings, at state buildings, and the police sit there like total cowards and let them do it.

00:04:14.000 This is only the beginning.

00:04:15.000 Wait until every U.S. 0.92

00:04:16.000 city is burned down. 0.66

00:04:18.000 And I am predicting that in the next decade you're going to see illegal aliens, probably sooner, rioting and burning major cities to the ground. 0.70

00:04:27.000 And the government will not stop them.

00:04:29.000 But they will send troops and police out to shoot you if you defend your home against these hordes.

00:04:36.000 This has been the plan all along, and I'll cover that as well.

00:04:39.000 So there's a big freak-out going on over this.

00:04:42.000 Hey, get ready to pledge allegiance to the RAG.

00:04:46.000 The white, red, and green flag of one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

00:04:54.000 It's of the New World Order's own heart. 0.51

00:04:56.000 And it's being given the United States.

00:05:04.000 It's here, after a year in production and traveling to distant lands, my new film Terror Storm is complete.

00:05:10.000 Shocking declassified government documents prove that western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

00:05:18.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 An inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

00:05:26.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

00:05:37.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

00:05:41.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

00:05:44.000 Terror Storm is a film that everyone who wants to be truly informed must see.

00:05:48.000 Get your copy today at Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or by calling toll-free 1-888-253-3139 or watch it right now online at PrisonPlanet.tv.

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00:08:07.000 We have the maker of the new 9-11 film, 9-11 Mysteries, Demolitions.

00:08:32.000 Really impressive.

00:08:34.000 Joining us coming up in the next hour, and then in the third hour, in studio, Ed Halter.

00:08:41.000 He is an author and of course he also writes for the Village Voice, did one of the more fair pieces we've seen in the mainstream news on 9-11 and the 9-11 truth movement, so that is coming up.

00:08:56.000 In the meantime, my friends, I do want to have open phones and I do want to cover a lot of the different news reports that are out there.

00:09:06.000 But right now, let me just get into this report first.

00:09:09.000 This is by Paul Joseph Watson.

00:09:12.000 It says, a warning to the world heated as leaders expose state terror.

00:09:20.000 Chavez, Ahmed, Dinejad cite 9-11 an attempt to counter fake

00:09:26.000 War provocations, fearing that they are the next targets of the US-led Imperial New World Order, leaders of foreign nations are beginning to understand that by drawing attention to the use of staged provocations and staged terror, that they may be able to move one step ahead of the world of public opinion and avoid the wrath of the neo-fascists.

00:09:52.000 In July of 2005, we released an article entitled, A Warning to the World, which called for all governments who still operate outside the control of the globalists to come forward and join humanity in unveiling the real terrorists who are attempting to deform the world into a prison planet.

00:10:11.000 This was a plea for all credible whistleblowers, and especially those within government, to shine a spotlight on the true face of terrorism.

00:10:19.000 We are calling on all whistleblowers to reveal themselves now and stand with us in the corner of truth and the future of the species. 0.96

00:10:28.000 These bastards are indiscriminate killers and our withholding information only paints a bigger target on your forehead. 0.96

00:10:39.000 Your words need to be heard, we wrote. 1.00

00:10:43.000 On a governmental level, the challenge is here before you.

00:10:46.000 Either scream from the rooftops about government-orchestrated terrorism, or sit back and watch your country become a victim of it as it is wrestled away from your hands and placed in the domain of a black and cancerous global dictatorship. 0.90

00:11:07.000 And within months, Iranian leadership went public.

00:11:10.000 Many other leaders in the world went public.

00:11:13.000 We're not claiming credit with the article we wrote at PrisonPlanet.com, though it was reposted in many foreign newspapers and major news websites, including in Iran.

00:11:24.000 Certainly, they did begin to respond.

00:11:27.000 That challenge is now being answered, not simply because of our article, but due to increased exposure of 9-11 and a clearer understanding of how governments create crises in order to justify wars.

00:11:39.000 The crescendo of credible individuals blowing the whistle on government-sponsored terror has increased exponentially.

00:11:50.000 That's a typo there, Paul.

00:11:51.000 The crescendo of credible individuals blowing the whistle on government-sponsored terror has increased exponentially.

00:11:58.000 Not only did we witness a coming together of academics, scientists, and former government officials with the birth of the 9-11 Scholars for Truth, but a number of world leaders used their platform to warn the world of Western state-sponsored terror.

00:12:15.000 In May of this year, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Addressed 9-11 complicity in a letter to the U.S.

00:12:24.000 government.

00:12:26.000 September 11th was not a simple operation, he wrote.

00:12:29.000 Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services or without their extensive infiltration?

00:12:38.000 Of course, this is just an educated guess, he concluded to Bush.

00:12:43.000 Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret?

00:12:47.000 Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities and why aren't those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?

00:12:55.000 All governments have a duty to provide security and peace of mind for their citizens.

00:13:01.000 Ahmed Dinejad knows his leadership has been targeted for decapitation And only by shining a bright light on the omnipresent possibility of a staged war provocation on the part of the neocons, such as the Bush-Blair fake Saddam-UN plane shoot-down memo, can he offset a likely entry to the airstrike on Iran.

00:13:29.000 And now, of course, we also have President Hugo Chavez, like Ahmedinejad, President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, is rightly obsessed with the intentions of the Bush regime to overthrow his government, having already been the subject of a CIA kidnapping on a previous occasion.

00:13:50.000 Six months before, Chavez gave a speech in which he lent credence to the notion that 9-11 was the self-inflicted wound.

00:13:57.000 This website reported on 9-11 activists holding private meetings with Chavez and his cabinet in anticipation of a political and potential Venezuelan government investigation into 9-11.

00:14:12.000 Through the formation of this inquiry is still an open question.

00:14:17.000 Chavez's public questioning of 9-11 earlier this month left no doubt as to who he thinks was behind the attack.

00:14:25.000 You can click and watch the video of him talking about it and calling for an investigation.

00:14:30.000 Hugo Chavez, quote, the hypothesis that is gaining strength Which was said on television last night, and which could soon blow up, was that it was the same U.S.

00:14:42.000 imperial power that planned and carried out the terrible terrorist attack, or act, against its own people and against citizens of the world.

00:14:51.000 Why?

00:14:51.000 To justify the aggression that was immediately unleashed on Afghanistan, on Iraq, and the threats against us all, against Venezuela too.

00:15:03.000 Since our plea for Influential power brokers worldwide to blow the whistle on state-sponsored terror.

00:15:10.000 The threshold, the level of understanding about 9-11 has been given a new lease on life.

00:15:17.000 Well, I don't think it ever didn't have a lease on life.

00:15:20.000 It's just been exponentially growing ever since then.

00:15:24.000 The grounds of consciousness are fertile and now is the most opportune time for whistleblowers, government officials, and any individual of credible standing to add their voice to the chorus of truth and rise up in unison against this global crime syndicate.

00:15:44.000 And so I did babble through that article because I think it's extremely important.

00:15:53.000 Okay, I'll get into global warming a little bit later here.

00:15:57.000 Al Gore is calling.

00:15:57.000 He says, we don't need a tax on our wages.

00:16:00.000 We need a global tax on pollution, i.e., the energy tax.

00:16:05.000 But they have no intention of getting rid of the income tax.

00:16:10.000 They're just going to add new taxes. 0.99

00:16:12.000 And by the way, this new energy tax will be international.

00:16:18.000 It will be global.

00:16:19.000 It is the dream of world government.

00:16:21.000 It is the true mechanism that will take world government from already being quite robust, but in its current form, its current form will be seen as fledgling compared to what it will grow into overnight.

00:16:37.000 And the new powers of taxation.

00:16:41.000 So we'll get into that and how it ties into global warming.

00:16:44.000 Right now, this is out of the Jerusalem Post.

00:16:48.000 Expert!

00:16:50.000 Tactical nukes need to blast Iranian defenses. 0.91

00:16:55.000 This is by Ryan Nadal, the Jerusalem Post.

00:16:59.000 Tactical nuclear weapons would be required to penetrate the defenses Iran has constructed around its nuclear facilities, according to Colonel Shalom Mo Vaz, an international consultant on terrorism and intelligence, and a research fellow at the Institute of Counterterrorism at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzlina.

00:17:26.000 The Colonel argued that any preemptive action, not necessarily launched by Israel against Iran's nuclear facilities, would need to employ tactical nuclear weapons.

00:17:39.000 The Iranians have invested a lot of money to hide their weapons and infrastructure underground. 0.98

00:17:45.000 The most sensitive items are below the surface, he said.

00:17:51.000 Well, that's not really true.

00:17:56.000 Studies have been done on this.

00:18:00.000 They might have to drop 10, 15, 20 conventional bunker busters on each of the sites

00:18:08.000 But they know where all the exhaust ports are, they know where the different entrances are, the different maintenance shafts are, and they can absolutely pound all the entrances and all of the side shafts and entryways into huge piles of rubble and totally damage the facilities if not destroy them.

00:18:32.000 And we have President Bush a few months ago

00:18:35.000 We have newspapers here talking about how they've developed all these mini-nukes, these baby nukes, and we know they've delivered the jackets, they've delivered, that is, the payload delivery systems, the missiles themselves, to Israel, hundreds and hundreds of them, and we know that our own government and the Bush administration have floated the idea of a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran.

00:19:02.000 This is genocidal, This is psychopathic.

00:19:05.000 This is totally criminal.

00:19:07.000 This is war crime at every level. 0.81

00:19:12.000 But you've got an average bestial American out there who just likes the idea of dropping nukes on people.

00:19:20.000 And they are in love with this idea.

00:19:23.000 You hear it.

00:19:23.000 It's like a religious sacrament.

00:19:25.000 Turn them into a parking lot.

00:19:27.000 Instead of saying Hare Krishna like a Hare Krishna cult member, basically on talk radio, they just drone nuclear parking lot, nuclear parking lot, glass parking lot.

00:19:37.000 I mean, it's literally a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

00:19:41.000 And of course, none of them can find Iran on the map, but that doesn't matter to them. 0.83

00:19:45.000 So we'll get into this and what this will do if they nuke Iran.

00:19:49.000 Some of the different scenarios.

00:19:51.000 They run bad to worse.

00:19:53.000 The best scenarios are absolutely horrible and will savage your pocketbooks.

00:19:58.000 We'll be right back.

00:19:59.000 Stay with us.

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00:24:18.000 Why do the globalists want war with Iran?

00:24:22.000 Well, right off the bat, it will more than double oil prices for at least six months.

00:24:28.000 That is the average conservative estimate being put out by the big financial publications that study the effect of war in the Middle East on energy prices.

00:24:43.000 And it will create a big political smoke screen for all the domestic scandals in England, Europe, and here in the United States.

00:24:50.000 It will mean hundreds of billions on top of the current hundreds of billions in weapons contracts and by the hardware manufacturers in the ongoing conflict in Iraq that will then expand into western Iran.

00:25:04.000 Special Forces troops for at least two years I have been all over Iran.

00:25:10.000 They have been lazing targets, preparing targets, picking targets, surveilling these remote nuclear sites, these enrichment sites, missile development sites, other military sites, and at the bare minimum, if there's an attack on Iran, and they're talking about hitting anywhere Between 13 and 214 sites, depending on what federal announcement or what army document we look at.

00:25:38.000 We've got a whole spectrum of them out there.

00:25:42.000 They're looking at, in fact, Heratz is reporting 13 to 16 sites right now that Israel may go ahead and just hit.

00:25:50.000 Those are the absolute bare minimum they'll hit.

00:25:53.000 And if Iran is attacked, the question is, if they do nothing and just lay there, You will still see massive increases in fuel prices.

00:26:04.000 Oh, by the way, let me just respond to this now.

00:26:05.000 People are going, man, look at oil prices fall.

00:26:08.000 Oil back down to $60 a barrel.

00:26:11.000 It was $30-something a barrel two and a half years ago.

00:26:15.000 I mean, just a few years ago it was $1.30, $1.40 a gallon.

00:26:19.000 Now it's $2.50 a gallon and people are thinking this is some super deal.

00:26:24.000 Oh, it's not $3.00, $3.15, $3.40 a gallon.

00:26:28.000 Oh, man!

00:26:28.000 See how they train you?

00:26:30.000 During the summer, every summer, they jack it up higher and higher each time.

00:26:35.000 And then in the fall and winter it drops back down, $.30, $.40, $.50.

00:26:39.000 And people go, oh, what a great deal.

00:26:41.000 And they jack it up even more the next year.

00:26:45.000 Oh man, I'm getting a deal!

00:26:46.000 It's only $2.60 a gallon!

00:26:49.000 Wowzer! 0.75

00:26:51.000 But anyways, I'm digressing.

00:26:53.000 Iran has said that they are going to attack the Persian Gulf.

00:26:56.000 And they've got all those platforms out there.

00:26:59.000 They've got all those weapon systems out there. 0.93

00:27:03.000 They have got special forces pre-deployed, ready to attack, civilian shipping.

00:27:09.000 And of course, they'll be called terrorists if they fight back.

00:27:13.000 Fighting back is called terrorism.

00:27:15.000 Okay, let's call it terrorism.

00:27:17.000 If they're attacked with nuclear weapons, as Israel and the U.S.

00:27:21.000 are saying they may do, then Iran, how dare them, will actually fight back. 0.84

00:27:26.000 So next time you're being mugged, do not fight back.

00:27:29.000 Or imagine, I guess the police will come and arrest you.

00:27:31.000 In fact, that actually now happens in the U.S., so I shouldn't joke about it.

00:27:35.000 You're not supposed to defend yourself, I forgot.

00:27:37.000 And Iran could roll out some really horrible secret weapons.

00:27:43.000 We know they got a bunch of chemical weapons.

00:27:45.000 There's a lot of talk of Iran will just conventionally pour across the border into Iraq and they will be joined by their allies who are the majority in Iraq and then you'll have a huge guerrilla ground war going there that makes the Tet Offensive look very small in comparison That's kind of the middle of the road. 0.80

00:28:10.000 Of course, the really bad scenario that I think will probably happen is our government will touch off a nuke or a bioweapon here in the U.S.

00:28:20.000 or England, blame it on Iran, go ahead and just hit all their major cities with nukes, go ahead and invade places like Syria, go ahead and hit Damascus with a nuke, Have total martial law clamped down.

00:28:37.000 They'll actually probably roll a throne out. 1.00

00:28:39.000 Bush will start ruling from a throne.

00:28:40.000 And by the way, I'm not joking.

00:28:42.000 We weren't joking about anything in the past.

00:28:44.000 This is the plan.

00:28:46.000 And it will be the end of the country and they'll grab your bank accounts.

00:28:52.000 They will deep six the economy.

00:28:53.000 Of course, it will all be blamed on Iran.

00:28:56.000 Your neighbors will go serve the government, do whatever the government says in the promise that the cheeseburgers and beer will continue to flow.

00:29:04.000 And we will enter the new dark age, and one world government will be here, and they will totally get rid of the borders, will be the North American Union, and they will then manipulate the U.S.

00:29:17.000 like they manipulate Iraq, by breaking it into several parts, and the Southwest will be a greater Mexico, and they're really doing it! 0.94

00:29:26.000 So that's what the New World Order has in store for us.

00:29:32.000 And, uh, don't think for a minute they won't attack Iran. 0.99

00:29:37.000 Don't think for a minute.

00:29:39.000 By the way, I have two more articles on this subject.

00:29:41.000 You know, I went over the, uh, Jerusalem Post here saying that Iran needs to be nuked.

00:29:47.000 I got two others.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

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00:37:46.000 We're going to go to your calls.

00:37:47.000 I gave the number out earlier, but the folks running the show are so accustomed to me not taking calls in the first hour.

00:37:58.000 They didn't hear that cue, so they haven't been going to the phones and getting your calls.

00:38:03.000 But here is the number again for you.

00:38:05.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:38:06.000 And it's always great to have first time callers, but regular callers are welcome as well.

00:38:10.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:38:14.000 And it's always great to have first-time callers, but regular callers are welcome as well.

00:38:19.000 First-time callers do go to the head of the line, only trumped by someone who disagrees with me.

00:38:27.000 you You go directly to the head of the line.

00:38:32.000 But before we do go back to your calls, I want to get into the news a little bit more.

00:38:40.000 So, we have Israel, the United States, the White House.

00:38:46.000 And the White House leaked to major publications a few months ago.

00:38:50.000 It's being echoed again by a big Israeli strategist.

00:38:53.000 That there is an open desire to hit Iran preemptively with a bald fist with mini-hydrogen bombs.

00:39:06.000 I guess that's thermonuclear.

00:39:11.000 And of course there's no such thing as a mini-nuke.

00:39:13.000 This will turn the mountains that these bases are built into the sides of, it will turn large parts, large sections of the mountains into slag heaps.

00:39:24.000 The weapon will of course penetrate upwards of 50 feet before detonating and will blow out the entire side of the hillside or mountain and cave in the secret bases beneath and of course eject large amounts of radioactive particles into the atmosphere.

00:39:48.000 They don't just detonate Nuclear warheads a half mile, a mile, two miles, 3,000 feet, 10,000 feet.

00:39:58.000 There's many different airbursts, but what's the average?

00:40:01.000 About 3,000 feet?

00:40:03.000 They don't just detonate these up high to get maximum destructive yield from the warhead, but that's one of the main reasons.

00:40:11.000 You detonate it above ground because then you get the full radiated impact of the blast Not dissipating into the ground, but blasting out in a blast wave, frying whole cities, leveling whole cities, and then radiating surrounding areas instantly.

00:40:34.000 Yes, the government is openly talking about bombing hundreds of sites with nukes in Iran, in just open, naked, savage, bloodthirsty, mass-murdering, Polluting aggression. 0.68

00:40:49.000 And this is meant to terrorize the few rogue nations, that is, countries that are still sovereign, whether they're good, bad, or indifferent.

00:40:56.000 This is about global dictatorship.

00:40:58.000 We are playing the part of the bad cop for global government, out-enforcing, threatening to nuke everybody.

00:41:03.000 When I say we, I mean the criminals that have hijacked our government.

00:41:07.000 And they are publicly, they are calmly talking about nuking between 13 and 214

00:41:17.000 sites in Iran and when a weapon detonates at zero sea level or when it detonates below earth, it then creates all these different isotopes, all these different configurations, all these different types of fallout with the different metals that it combines with.

00:41:40.000 There's naturally occurring cobalt that creates particularly nasty Very poisonous and extremely radioactive isotopes that very low level exposure to kills you.

00:41:56.000 And that's in the extreme, but very common.

00:42:02.000 But even in the lesser extreme, quick cell growth, diebacks, your gums, your teeth falling out, your intestines liquefying, things like that.

00:42:14.000 It's just all sorts of problems when it binds with steel, when it binds with lead, when it binds with iron, when it binds with all the different things that it's going to come in contact with when at point blank range a warhead detonates inside a facility.

00:42:31.000 Not to mention if they hit a uranium enrichment facility it is going to cause a huge Chernobyl type cloud and the government admits that when it bombs these nuclear facilities That it will cause a huge poison cloud of radiation, much larger than Chernobyl, to drift around haphazardly.

00:42:51.000 But again, the globalists don't care, folks.

00:42:55.000 In the past, they would tell the tribes, don't breathe DU, now they just say it's good for you.

00:42:59.000 They just don't issue the field manuals.

00:43:01.000 The field manuals, they didn't even change those.

00:43:03.000 It still says it's deadly and kills the tribes, but now they just don't issue the manuals.

00:43:08.000 And it won't just be the troops, it'll be your children huffing the radiation clouds from this.

00:43:14.000 By the way, there are major winds, major jet streams that stream right across from east to west.

00:43:25.000 Right across the Midwest, right through the Carolinas, right through Texas, right through Ohio, right through Indiana, right through Illinois, right through California, just right through the entire United States.

00:43:41.000 I know, I know, Bush says radiation is good, it is, and you can go out and maybe they'll start selling uranium pills as nutritious at the store.

00:43:51.000 They already say mercury is good for you.

00:43:56.000 Imagine!

00:43:57.000 Open discussion of nuking Iran. 0.91

00:44:00.000 And then every time Iran says, well, if you nuke us, we'll fight back, they take it out of context and say, Ahmadinejad threatens to strike U.S. 0.96

00:44:09.000 And the average dumbed-down neocon follower out there hears that and says, well, see, we need to hit them. 0.92

00:44:16.000 Ahmadinejad just threatened us again. 0.97

00:44:22.000 So, more calls for that.

00:44:24.000 Here's a little CNN clip.

00:44:26.000 Retired Colonel, we are conducting military operations inside Iran right now.

00:44:32.000 Evidence is overwhelming.

00:44:33.000 And let's go ahead and just play a short section of this clip.

00:44:40.000 Military strike against Iran, and would it lead to all out war?

00:44:45.000 Joining us now is retired U.S.

00:44:47.000 Air Force Colonel Sam Gardner.

00:44:48.000 He's taught strategy and military operations at the National War College, the Air War College, and the Naval War College.

00:44:55.000 Colonel, thanks very much for coming in.

00:44:57.000 You've just prepared a paper for the Century Foundation entitled, Considering the U.S.

00:45:02.000 Military Option for Iran. 0.79

00:45:04.000 You speak to a lot of people, plugged in.

00:45:06.000 What is your bottom line?

00:45:08.000 How close, in your opinion, is the U.S., the Bush administration, to giving that go-ahead order?

00:45:14.000 It's been given.

00:45:15.000 In fact, we've probably been executing military operations inside Iran for at least 18 months.

00:45:23.000 The evidence is overwhelming.

00:45:26.000 When you say it's been given, the President says he wants diplomacy to work to convince the Iranian government to stop enriching uranium, to not go forward.

00:45:35.000 I would tell the Iranian people that we have no desire for conflict.

00:45:39.000 He told David Ignatius of the Washington Post the other day.

00:45:42.000 So what does that mean the order has been given?

00:45:44.000 We are conducting military operations inside Iran right now.

00:45:49.000 The evidence is overwhelming, from both the Iranians, Americans, and from congressional forces.

00:45:55.000 What does military operation define that?

00:45:58.000 They probably have had two objectives going back 18 months.

00:46:01.000 The first was to gather intelligence.

00:46:03.000 Where is the Iranian nuclear program?

00:46:06.000 The second has been to prepare dissident groups For phase two, which will be the strike, which will come as the next phase, I think.

00:46:16.000 Preparing intelligence, that's understandable, using all sorts of means.

00:46:20.000 They want to know what the Iranians are up to in terms of their nuclear program.

00:46:25.000 But are you suggesting that U.S.

00:46:27.000 military forces, special operations forces, or others are on the ground right now in Iran?

00:46:32.000 Certainly.

00:46:33.000 Absolutely clear.

00:46:34.000 The evidence is overwhelming from lots of sources.

00:46:37.000 And again, most of them you can read public.

00:46:40.000 You'll see Mahersh has done good work on it, and there are lots of other people who have done it.

00:46:44.000 I've talked to Iranians.

00:46:45.000 Okay, we're going to go to Issa and... Getting a really bad echo there, guys.

00:46:52.000 We're going to go to Issa and Charles and Sean and others coming up here in just a few minutes.

00:47:00.000 Let me just go back to what Wolf Blitzer, Mr. CIA, as they're saying, along with him and the rest of the CIA crew at CNN.

00:47:12.000 And I'm not saying everyone in every division of CNN is CIA, but Anderson Cooper and the key news gatherers are, folks.

00:47:20.000 We told you that years ago, now it's public.

00:47:21.000 But side issue.

00:47:24.000 It's the same story.

00:47:25.000 Oh, Bush wants diplomacy with Saddam.

00:47:28.000 Bush is giving him an ultimatum.

00:47:30.000 Bush just wants him to work.

00:47:32.000 Bush is giving him his last chance.

00:47:35.000 We told you that was balderdash long before they actually launched the attack on Iraq. 0.96

00:47:47.000 And now all the news articles and the memos And the eyewitnesses have come forward that there was never an intention to not attack Iraq.

00:47:56.000 They just have to go through the motions, and for two years, I keep saying two years, it's like two and a half, almost three now.

00:48:04.000 Cy Hirsch reported on it, what, a year ago, and he said they'd already been there a year and a half.

00:48:08.000 And yeah, there's special forces all over the country.

00:48:10.000 Every few weeks some dam gets blown up or a bunch of people get shot.

00:48:15.000 Our criminal government's in there funding a bunch of revolutionaries to go around and shoot police and other stuff.

00:48:21.000 I mean, it's the same thing our government's been doing to Iran for 53 years. 0.71

00:48:25.000 No wonder the Iranians hate us so much. 1.00

00:48:30.000 But again, the average American doesn't even know what a covert operation is.

00:48:34.000 They can't find Iran on a map, but they've got their opinion about Iran.

00:48:39.000 Let me just explain something again to the neocon listeners out there.

00:48:45.000 You are seen in the same vein as Ahmadinejad by this government.

00:48:50.000 You understand? 0.53

00:48:51.000 You're seen as cattle.

00:48:52.000 You're seen as property. 0.93

00:48:54.000 You're seen as a slave.

00:48:56.000 You're seen as someone to be kept in the dark, to be used, to be fed on, to be thrown to the side.

00:49:01.000 You understand that?

00:49:02.000 Stop being naive.

00:49:04.000 The people in control of our government are dismantling the country right now.

00:49:09.000 What does it take to get you to realize that?

00:49:11.000 You're being laughed at.

00:49:13.000 Okay, I'm talking to you straight.

00:49:16.000 You got slick PR firms who package lies and feed it to you. 0.98

00:49:22.000 And it's time that you realize there's nothing more pathetic than somebody who's being conned and manipulated. 0.83

00:49:29.000 And even when you sit there and you tell them, hey, this is a scam, you're being scammed, they still laugh at you and they go back and get scammed again and again and again and again and again. 0.96

00:49:38.000 Look, I know it's tribal.

00:49:40.000 I know it's fun to hate people overseas. 1.00

00:49:42.000 I know it. 0.93

00:49:43.000 But if you want to get tribal, why don't you hate all these illegal aliens who do hate this country and say they're going to overthrow it? 0.84

00:49:50.000 I mean, I've got the Houston Papers here in front of me. 0.68

00:49:53.000 People are finally freaking out over the fact that they pledge allegiance to the Mexican flag in Houston and some of these schools.

00:50:00.000 Well, of course they do!

00:50:01.000 It's the end of the country!

00:50:04.000 Do you understand large sections of Texas are openly called Mexico and the Mexican flag flies over government buildings? 0.96

00:50:12.000 Do you understand Mexican radio right here in Austin says that they are taking over Texas and that whites are going to be killed?

00:50:20.000 I mean, do you understand, folks? 0.96

00:50:22.000 This is not a joke!

00:50:25.000 University of Texas, head of Chicano Studies, Arlington.

00:50:28.000 In fact, I've played clips of them.

00:50:30.000 I ought to dig those out again and play them again.

00:50:32.000 Says that they are... He's changed his view.

00:50:35.000 Before, it was all white males had to die. 1.00

00:50:37.000 Now, all whites have to die. 1.00

00:50:40.000 You go, man, that's racist! 1.00

00:50:42.000 Yeah, but it's in the government's plan.

00:50:45.000 We're never going to let them do it.

00:50:46.000 Don't worry.

00:50:47.000 They're going to, you know, totally set them up.

00:50:50.000 But, in that setup, they're going to break down the Southwest and make it an international area.

00:50:56.000 Alright, we'll come back, take some calls.

00:50:58.000 Paul, stay with us.

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00:54:14.000 Let's take a few calls right now.

00:54:17.000 I don't have the numbers in front of me but cancer worldwide every decade goes up exponentially.

00:54:22.000 What do you know about this cancer rates around the world?

00:54:27.000 Are they going up?

00:54:29.000 I don't have the numbers in front of me, but cancer worldwide every decade goes up exponentially.

00:54:36.000 All these new forms of cancers and then normally occurring cancers, things that we've seen in the past are radically increasing as well.

00:54:48.000 Much of it is not just linked to more carcinogenic material, but genetically engineered foods with enzymes and amino acids and genetic structures our bodies have never encountered.

00:55:03.000 Also, the cancer viruses that are in so many of the vaccines have been directly linked to a lot of the new cancers that are sprouting up.

00:55:12.000 Childhood cancer is off the charts.

00:55:16.000 It's unbelievable.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, that's why, because I have two family members.

00:55:21.000 My wife, her sister just died just two weeks ago of cancer, you know, over in Morocco.

00:55:26.000 And my aunt, she has cancer.

00:55:28.000 She has stage 4 cancer.

00:55:30.000 You know, I tried to tell her about alternative therapy, but you know, she's not listening, but that's why I was... It just seemed kind of fishy, you know?

00:55:37.000 It just seemed like, you know, everyone knows someone who has cancer now, it just... Well, Isa, I'll tell you why the Globalists are in control.

00:55:48.000 In the 1920s, the Rockefeller Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, Went out and bought up most of the big research hospitals.

00:56:00.000 And they studied cancer.

00:56:03.000 And they studied how to splice out the tissues, how to find viruses that caused it, and then they simultaneously got into vaccine manufacture.

00:56:15.000 And it is in mainstream history books that the Rockefellers are linked to cancer.

00:56:22.000 So today, here they are, their foundations, Owning many of the hospitals, owning the big drug companies, and the evidence is clear that they have been intimately involved in spreading cancer.

00:56:36.000 I mean, these are some cold-blooded people, folks.

00:56:40.000 When you die of cancer, they're going to take most of the money you made in your life and give it to themselves.

00:56:49.000 Anything else, Esau?

00:56:51.000 No, that's it.

00:56:52.000 I've just been kind of fishing.

00:56:57.000 It's going to get worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse.

00:57:06.000 I appreciate your call.

00:57:07.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Thomas in Germany.

00:57:11.000 First time caller.

00:57:12.000 Welcome, Thomas.

00:57:13.000 Yes, sir.

00:57:14.000 Hi, what's on your mind?

00:57:17.000 I got a few questions about what's going on.

00:57:22.000 I work over here in Germany on a military post.

00:57:28.000 There's a couple cities around here that I visit occasionally.

00:57:32.000 Like this one city, it's called Erlangen.

00:57:35.000 And I went to my friend showed me this video place where you can self rent videos.

00:57:40.000 It's like a video automat type place.

00:57:43.000 In order to get this video, you have to submit an electronic fingerprint.

00:57:49.000 And when I was... I haven't had a chance to actually question them as to why you need a fingerprint.

00:57:57.000 And I traveled up, I went to Budapest last month and like every street corner you go to there's like cameras that point every five directions.

00:58:06.000 And the more I look around the city I live in, which is Amberg, the more I start noticing all this big brother watching you everywhere you go.

00:58:15.000 Let me ask you a question and I'll hold you over from Deutschland.

00:58:18.000 Don't, don't hang up Thomas.

00:58:20.000 Okay.

00:58:21.000 But how long have you been listening to the show?

00:58:23.000 I've been listening to this show.

00:58:24.000 My friend, he was from the states and he came over here to work with me and he introduced me to you.

00:58:31.000 And it took me a long time to get my eyes to open.

00:58:33.000 Well, just stay there.

00:58:34.000 We're going to break and come back and I'll tell you.

00:58:36.000 See, everything's going to be self-serve.

00:58:38.000 You're going to have the thumbprint.

00:58:40.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:41.000 Order a copy of this show for your friends and family at GCNlive.com or call 877-300-7645.

00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 We have the maker of the new incredible 9-11 film, 9-11 Mysteries, Demolitions, J.

00:59:28.000 Joining us, we'll have open phones on 9-11, the New World Order, any issue you wish to discuss throughout this hour, and a lot of other news we haven't even hit on yet.

00:59:37.000 Like Gore says, tax pollution, not payrolls.

00:59:41.000 This is your Global Tax, boys and girls.

00:59:43.000 We'll be getting into it.

00:59:45.000 But right now, let's go back to Thomas in Germany.

00:59:48.000 He said that, you know, when you try to go out It's one of the big video rental places.

00:59:53.000 It's self-serve.

00:59:54.000 They're all up there, you know, kind of in a big window.

00:59:56.000 You go into the shop.

00:59:58.000 This is the wave of the future.

00:59:59.000 And everything's kind of like in these little terminals that then, according to genre, and then you type in the number you want and you pay it, but it isn't enough to just rent it and turn it back in.

01:00:12.000 You have to thumbprint to do it.

01:00:15.000 And biometrically, it isn't enough to have you even swipe your ID, they've got your ID, they want this biometrics.

01:00:21.000 And of course they claim that's to have a key identifier to know it was you directly.

01:00:26.000 But notice that in Germany, England, the US, I remember seeing a story seven years ago out of Australia, it was out of The Australian, one of their big papers, that they'd already done a deal with the UN to unify a world ID card.

01:00:40.000 And so ID cards in England and ID cards in the US and ID cards in Australia They have the same number of numbers in their identifying.

01:00:51.000 It's standardized.

01:00:52.000 So we hear about how, oh, they've standardized our state licenses federally under a national ID card.

01:00:58.000 No, no, no.

01:00:59.000 That's for global ID card.

01:01:02.000 And in the future, you're going to have a global sales tax that's shared federally and locally.

01:01:07.000 And you will thumb scan and face scan Anywhere and everywhere you go for any purchase.

01:01:16.000 This is all beneficially announced, by the way.

01:01:19.000 And people said, well, how will they implement it?

01:01:20.000 And we told you, because I read the minutes of the big symposiums and conferences that have been put on by the biometric industry, and the Pentagon's always there.

01:01:36.000 And they openly say they're going to, at first, take out some of the service lanes and then put in all self-service, and then force you to biometrically scan, then they're going to bring in the national sales tax, which phony conservatives are out pushing as the fair tax.

01:01:53.000 It's a beautiful system.

01:01:54.000 They will, of course, keep the income tax and then have all these other new taxes too.

01:01:58.000 On top of it.

01:01:59.000 And so, that's why you go to the tanning salon, or you go to the Home Depot, or you go to the grocery store, or you go to the gym, or you go to clock in at work now, or you go to get a school lunch, or you go to get a library book, they're now wanting to thumb scan you.

01:02:14.000 They're just putting it in!

01:02:15.000 And it is a diabolical, one-world government, slave-tracking system.

01:02:20.000 The Pentagon designed it, and there have been articles where the Pentagon brags that it is a system to control occupied countries.

01:02:27.000 We are occupied under NORTHCOM.

01:02:29.000 We are going into slavery, and it's soft slavery now because they haven't fully completed the prison grid.

01:02:37.000 When it's done, just remember, I warned you, I hope you enjoy it.

01:02:43.000 Thomas, anything else from Germany, sir?

01:02:46.000 It's just, I just want to point out that it's not just in our own country that we're losing all of our rights.

01:02:53.000 It's even over here in the national ID card.

01:02:56.000 I think, I want to say it's starting with the military because we have somewhat, sort of the same idea.

01:03:02.000 I'm not in the military, but I'm civilian.

01:03:04.000 We all get those ID cards that have your complete history about you and who you are and everything that you, if somebody were to take these little cards from you, they can become you.

01:03:17.000 More or less, that's how much information is on these little chips that are on these things.

01:03:21.000 All the best studies show that national ID cards and these systems have increased identity fraud.

01:03:27.000 And they have now reported top experts from across the spectrum that RFID is going to increase fraud.

01:03:36.000 But that's good!

01:03:37.000 The government wants that and they get even more control.

01:03:40.000 Thank you for listening from Germany.

01:03:41.000 Thank you for your important contribution to the broadcast.

01:03:44.000 We'll be back with our guest and more of your calls.

01:03:46.000 All stand by. All stand by.

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01:06:58.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

01:07:25.000 We're going to have open phones in this hour.

01:07:31.000 You're welcome to bring up the attempt by the globalists to start World War III with Iran. 0.96

01:07:36.000 The open discussion by Israel of how they need to nuke Iran preemptively.

01:07:41.000 I mean, psychopathic mass murder openly being discussed, and in quote, we're the good guys.

01:07:48.000 Give me a break.

01:07:50.000 At the same time, we can get into 9-11.

01:07:53.000 The dam is breaking on the cover-up of 9-11.

01:07:55.000 The hoax is imploding, is falling apart.

01:07:59.000 I know that we've got Sean and Charles and many others that are patiently holding the toll-free number to join us on air as 1-800-259-9231.

01:08:08.000 About a month ago, my good friend George Humphries was in studio.

01:08:13.000 And George said, man, you have got to see this new film.

01:08:16.000 I've seen a rough cut of it.

01:08:18.000 It's 9-11 Mysteries Part 1 Demolitions.

01:08:22.000 And I said, well give me a copy.

01:08:23.000 I'll look at it.

01:08:24.000 He goes, I don't have one.

01:08:26.000 Well, I got a copy from Sophia, who was involved in the production of this film and in the making of it.

01:08:37.000 And I saw it a couple weeks ago.

01:08:39.000 Just an amazing documentary.

01:08:40.000 And we just got the DVDs in.

01:08:43.000 We're carrying it.

01:08:45.000 It just focuses on the controlled demolitions, a lot of new video, a lot of new interviews, stuff you haven't seen.

01:08:52.000 This is going to be very effective because it doesn't get off into the New World Order, it doesn't get off into the big picture, which I think is important.

01:09:01.000 My films do that.

01:09:02.000 But I think it's good to have a tool like this.

01:09:05.000 That just hits one area and hits it strong.

01:09:08.000 So I hope you will visit InfoWars.com while you're getting a copy of Terror Storm.

01:09:12.000 You'll get a copy of 9-11 Mysteries.

01:09:15.000 Sophia, thank you for coming on with us.

01:09:17.000 Thank you Alex for inviting me.

01:09:20.000 Tell us why you decided to get into this type of filmmaking and tell us the process of making This 9-11 Mysteries Demolitions documentary and tell listeners out there who get the DVD what they'll be seeing.

01:09:36.000 Well to start with you've asked me lots of questions.

01:09:39.000 I got into this because last summer my friend Brad and I did a show on stage in Hollywood.

01:09:45.000 Now this was not a dramatic play.

01:09:48.000 It was simply a presentation of video evidence and the highlights From movies like your 9-11 Martial Law.

01:09:56.000 I remember you guys contacted me and you wanted permission to use clips and I said, of course, so sure.

01:10:02.000 And we wanted to show audiences where they could go for the bigger picture of 9-11.

01:10:02.000 Right.

01:10:08.000 And Brad covered the demolition aspect of how the buildings came down and I covered hijackers and planes and then a section called War Games and another called Who Benefits.

01:10:20.000 And this ran only for about six weeks in L.A.

01:10:22.000 at the Met Theater, and then we were invited to go on tour.

01:10:27.000 People said, you must go around the country, and of course that's quite a hellish thing to do.

01:10:31.000 You have to rent a bus and whatnot, and I said no way, and Brad said no way, and so we decided to make a DVD.

01:10:38.000 It's much better to just make a film.

01:10:40.000 Yes, although you're biting off an iceberg.

01:10:44.000 Huge!

01:10:45.000 Bigger than the one that supposedly sunk the Titanic.

01:10:47.000 When you do that, and I had never made a movie before, the project fell in my lap, and having been a person who wrote novels and screenplays, it wasn't tough to write the script.

01:10:58.000 But you had done graphic plays where video clips were used, so, I mean, in a way, you had done film before, but not in a classical sense.

01:11:06.000 Right, exactly.

01:11:07.000 I had done compilation before.

01:11:10.000 So I had this enormous amount of information that suddenly came in from all these wonderful people all over the country who wanted to give me their research and their favorite movies.

01:11:18.000 A lot of people sent me movies that the official guys had done, you know, CBS, CNN, things like America Rebuilds, We Will Never Forget, America Remembers, that kind of stuff.

01:11:32.000 And I was urged to watch it, and I did.

01:11:34.000 And all this material contained Um, support and evidence and commentary by experts that really did not do anything except express, um, the reality that these buildings had come down by controlled demolition.

01:11:51.000 And, um, so I decided to incorporate the myths that had been created for us and settled to us in the movie and put them right next to the science.

01:12:01.000 So the movie travels from myths through analysis and eventually to Players and motivation.

01:12:08.000 And that is just part one.

01:12:10.000 There was so much information that I realized, short of making a six-hour movie, I was not going to be able to create this effectively without reducing the first segment into its own full movie.

01:12:24.000 So that's why we have part one, demolition, to be followed by part two, hijackers and planes, and then part three, who benefits.

01:12:31.000 The next two are not ready yet, so your people will have to be content with Part 1 demolitions for now, which is 90 minutes.

01:12:41.000 That's right, it's 90 minutes, extremely powerful, and I just love it that newer and better 9-11 films are coming out all the time.

01:12:49.000 You know, there's so many out there that are okay, but really aren't effective or aren't accurate.

01:12:54.000 Yours is so effective, so accurate, And it's going to devastate the New World Order. 0.93

01:13:00.000 You've got to have a sense of accomplishment, though, to have spent the blood, sweat, and tears, the time, making this baby.

01:13:08.000 And it's got to feel good.

01:13:11.000 Give us your take on how you're feeling right now.

01:13:14.000 Well, I'm getting so many emails from people, and what's becoming clear is that watching this movie is an emotional experience.

01:13:22.000 Even for hardcore demolition, you know, lovers like yourself even there are people who have watched this movie and who told me they were moved to tears and when i opened it in austin thanks to george humphrey leah lewis and the brave new books

01:13:41.000 uh people there the crowd lined up to shake my hand and there were people that were crying and i realized that without setting out to do this i had made an emotional experience and that's what i think is going to make this effective in reaching the mainstream

01:13:59.000 We needed a movie that was civilized, that was rationalized, rational rather, reasoned, calm, and even the female element, the female narrator, I've been told, was desperately needed in this picture that was dominated by males.

01:14:16.000 So, I mean, your style is Inimitable.

01:14:20.000 I could never do that gravelly voice and that wonderful quick wit and all the knowledge that you have, but we need something calm as well, because a lot of people get frightened.

01:14:30.000 Oh, no, I agree.

01:14:31.000 We need all sorts of different angles to be hit.

01:14:34.000 That's how we get everybody.

01:14:35.000 Right.

01:14:36.000 And I think this is going to be extremely effective.

01:14:37.000 In fact, we've seen it now becoming extremely effective out there.

01:14:41.000 Of course, I'm sure you know it's now out on Google Video.

01:14:44.000 Yes, and it gets many, many downloads every day.

01:14:47.000 It's on David Icke's site.

01:14:48.000 It's on Jeff Wentz.

01:14:50.000 I'm extremely honored that I didn't have to do anything at all really to promote it except put it out there.

01:14:55.000 Oh yeah, we were the first to find it about a week ago and post it up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

01:15:03.000 We've got it up there right now, but I'm challenging everybody to get the DVD because this way you actually support

01:15:11.000 The work of Sophia, the cost of making this, you know, we just bought 500 of these from them, and then you also support us when you purchase it from us, and you have the high-quality DVD and the hard case, and it is, now Sophia, I don't want to put you on the spot, are you game for people, for non-profit, educational purposes, to not make copies and sell it, but to make copies and get it out to people?

01:15:36.000 Well, of course I want it to get out to people, and I do not I would love to have some return sales coming to me, because 911mysteries.com sells the video as well.

01:15:47.000 Sure, I understand.

01:15:48.000 You've got to somehow have money come back to you.

01:15:50.000 Exactly.

01:15:51.000 I did hawk everything to make this movie.

01:15:54.000 It was extraordinarily expensive, but I felt that in the end it would be worth it.

01:15:59.000 And I have a fantastic video editor.

01:16:02.000 He was a mainstreamer, Alex, and that too was important, because as this picture was unfolding for him, We started at the beginning and we worked through to the end and we just crossed our fingers that the script would work.

01:16:15.000 Who's the fella that's at the front? 0.64

01:16:18.000 Oh, that is my friend Brad from the Hollywood Show.

01:16:21.000 Brad is a geek.

01:16:23.000 I mean, you have to just look at him and you know that he loves computers, he stays indoors, he's always, you know, fiddling around with websites and he writes software, but he's also a conservative Republican and proud of it.

01:16:38.000 And when we did our theater show, Brad and I were direct opposites.

01:16:43.000 People would comment on the fact that I seemed such a liberal and Brad such a conservative.

01:16:49.000 And they liked that.

01:16:50.000 They liked that the material presented to them was coming from two completely different ends of the spectrum.

01:16:56.000 So I urged Brad to be at the beginning of the movie and tell his story.

01:17:03.000 And it's true. 0.56

01:17:04.000 Every word in that little intro is what happened.

01:17:07.000 He was He was able to download Painful Deceptions.

01:17:10.000 He had no idea what he was going to watch.

01:17:12.000 And he could not believe it.

01:17:14.000 He was incensed that anyone would try to say this.

01:17:17.000 He tried to disprove it.

01:17:18.000 He did!

01:17:18.000 And he was a demolition hobbyist.

01:17:22.000 He's watched live demolitions whenever he can.

01:17:26.000 And he could only keep coming back to the conclusion that Eric Hofschmid, that All the people who pointed out that this was a controlled demolition were just right.

01:17:39.000 Plain old right.

01:17:40.000 It had to be that way.

01:17:41.000 Well, you have a lot of architects and scientists and experts in your film, too, talking about the controlled demolition in the film.

01:17:49.000 It's got a lot of angles and things that I haven't seen in other documentaries.

01:17:53.000 Folks, we are carrying the film at InfoWars.com via the safe, secure online shopping cart.

01:18:00.000 And I hope that you will go there and get this Part 1 of 9-11 Mysteries.

01:18:05.000 And as Part 2 and Part 3 come out, we're sure those will be excellent as well.

01:18:08.000 We'll be sure and carry those.

01:18:10.000 Let me ask you a question, Sophia.

01:18:12.000 How long until Part 2 and Part 3 are out, do you think?

01:18:15.000 Well, the basic scripts are written because, as I said, I was going to do the whole movie together.

01:18:20.000 And then I thought, why should I finish two hours of Part 1 and leave it sitting around?

01:18:25.000 I might as well sell it.

01:18:27.000 And generate money to make Part 2 and 3.

01:18:29.000 So Part 2 is written, but as you know, there's been an awful lot coming out about hijackers, planes, NORAD.

01:18:35.000 So I need to just dive in, as I did with the first, and start it.

01:18:40.000 So it'll be maybe six months or so.

01:18:43.000 Cross your fingers.

01:18:44.000 Sure, well I'm excited to see that.

01:18:46.000 Stay there, Sophia. 0.67

01:18:47.000 Let's come back and talk more about it.

01:18:48.000 More about the 9-11 Truth Movement itself.

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01:23:09.000 Charles, Sean, and many others that have been holding patiently, we'll get to you.

01:23:12.000 Our guest is Sophia, came up with the idea to have a play about 9-11, and I'm proud that they used some of my work in it.

01:23:19.000 I was happy to authorize them to do that, and then they decided to make a film, which I think is really a better use of your time, because so many people can see documentaries online, so many people can burn copies and give them to people, so many people can Well, the 9-11 awareness movement is my preferred word.

01:23:35.000 I think it's growing by leaps and bounds.

01:23:36.000 to do this.

01:23:38.000 Sophia, what do you think five years later about the progress of the 9-11 Truth Movement?

01:23:44.000 I'm just interested to get your take on that.

01:23:46.000 Well, the 9-11 Awareness Movement is my preferred word.

01:23:51.000 I think it's growing by leaps and bounds.

01:23:54.000 I walked into my print shop the other day and people there knew about it.

01:24:01.000 They had seen a couple of things on the Internet.

01:24:03.000 What I think is very noticeable, though, is people's fear of talking about it.

01:24:09.000 And a customer of mine said to me a couple of months ago, we need to tell people, don't stand in the corner and whisper about this.

01:24:17.000 Talk out loud!

01:24:19.000 Be free about it.

01:24:21.000 Nobody's going to come and get you for talking about it to somebody else.

01:24:25.000 And if everybody talks about it, they cannot come and get anyone, you know?

01:24:29.000 But people are towering.

01:24:30.000 The information is so unbelievable.

01:24:33.000 Well, coal miners, so they can know if there's a gas leak, Can bring a canary with them and frankly I'm a big fat canary here in a little cage down in the mine.

01:24:46.000 So people need to stop.

01:24:47.000 People should be afraid of not fighting these murderers because they're going to pull off another attack if we don't expose them.

01:24:53.000 People, you should be afraid of not bringing these criminals to justice.

01:24:57.000 I mean, real live monsters are out stalking the countryside and I personally don't want to hide my house and wait for them to come get me.

01:25:04.000 I'm out looking for them.

01:25:06.000 Okay folks, I'm out looking for them.

01:25:09.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:25:09.000 No, that's right.

01:25:11.000 I agree.

01:25:12.000 We're out looking for them because, as I said to you once before, learning about this is enlightening.

01:25:21.000 Hard to believe, but it's fascinating, and when you get fascinated, your curiosity draws you, and you discover more, and you share more, and it's actually inspiring to me.

01:25:33.000 There's always something you can do.

01:25:34.000 The famous jazz singer Gil Scott Heron said, nobody can do everything, but everybody can do something.

01:25:40.000 And most people out there, even if they feel helpless, are certainly able to open their mouths and talk, to have discussions, and then to back it up with a little bit of science.

01:25:50.000 There are only a few things you need to know, rudimentary things.

01:25:54.000 How does a building that's 110 stories come down in 10 seconds without the floors being blown out ahead of the fall?

01:26:02.000 And that's an easy concept to relay to an average.

01:26:06.000 Well, you can see them blowing Tower 1 and 2 up from the top down.

01:26:10.000 You can see the huge ejection squibs seconds before it begins imploding.

01:26:14.000 I mean, then you watch 7, you can see the blast squibs clearly as well.

01:26:19.000 I mean, and your new film really illustrates this in a way I haven't seen it done before.

01:26:25.000 So you've really knocked it out of the park on this one.

01:26:29.000 I actually studied blasting and found that there was tremendous correlation between the different kinds of explosions reported at the World Trade Center and the method, the sequence of bringing a building down by controlled demolition.

01:26:29.000 Right.

01:26:45.000 And one of the criticisms or objections we got from audiences audiences at the live shows was, there's too much about explosions.

01:26:53.000 We just hear too many different kinds of explosions.

01:26:55.000 Alright, just tell us about one or two kinds of explosions.

01:26:57.000 That's enough.

01:26:58.000 We get it.

01:26:59.000 And I said to Brad, you have to cut the demolition section.

01:27:01.000 They're complaining there's too much variegated explosion material.

01:27:05.000 And he said, no, it's all important.

01:27:07.000 It's all, I can't cut any of it out.

01:27:09.000 They're all different kinds of explosions.

01:27:11.000 People are like, there's too much evidence. 0.89

01:27:13.000 It's ridiculous.

01:27:14.000 Then Alex, Brad suggested, why don't you group the explosions together in the movie? 0.74

01:27:19.000 Group the sub-basement.

01:27:20.000 Group the ground level.

01:27:21.000 Group the interior blast.

01:27:23.000 And I did this.

01:27:25.000 And I started to compare it with what I was learning about blasting.

01:27:29.000 And then I called him and I said, guess what?

01:27:31.000 This matches up with how they bring a building down.

01:27:34.000 They do it in these stages.

01:27:36.000 And they're all done so fast.

01:27:38.000 It's the orchestration, the choreography of demoing a building.

01:27:42.000 It matches all the different kinds of explosions.

01:27:45.000 They reported in the towers.

01:27:47.000 So that created my six-stage demolition theory, which is the centerpiece of the movie.

01:27:53.000 And from that we move into the strange recollections of Scott Forbes and Willie Rodriguez about people thumping and bumping in the building.

01:28:03.000 Nobody knowing what those noises were about.

01:28:06.000 The dust on the windowsills.

01:28:08.000 And we get into the real You know, Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys, mystery sense of this.

01:28:13.000 I mean, I was there at Ground Zero just a week and a half ago and there were emergency workers, there were people who, you know, are famous for being survivors going, oh yeah, they were clearing the buildings out, they had weird workers in there drilling stuff.

01:28:27.000 I mean, there were the bomb crews right in front of everybody in the months before.

01:28:30.000 It's just so arrogant.

01:28:32.000 We're going to come back and take calls on 9-11, you name it.

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01:31:49.000 9-11 Mysteries Part 1 Demolitions won't be seen unless Go to InfoWars.com They just got to us hot off the presses and while you're ordering a copy of my new film Terror Storm, the history of government sponsored terror,

01:32:19.000 You can go from the wide view down to the microscopic view up close on 9-11 just looking at one aspect, one of the most important aspects, the controlled demolitions.

01:32:29.000 So please get the new film.

01:32:30.000 We're very proud of it.

01:32:31.000 We're very excited to be carrying it.

01:32:33.000 We appreciate the fine work of Sophia and her crew.

01:32:37.000 Again, that's I-N-F-O-W-A-R-S dot com to get the new film or any of the other books and videos that we carry that expose the crimes of this government.

01:32:48.000 I mean, if you feel like I feel, to use a quote from V from Vendetta, that the crimes of this government need to be answered, then please join us in this fight.

01:32:57.000 This is how we bring them down.

01:32:58.000 Take my film, Terror Storm.

01:33:00.000 I want you to make copies of it.

01:33:02.000 I want you to get it, I want you to aggressively slam it in the DVD copier, or the VHS copier, and I want you to aggressively make copies, knowing that you're going to hurt the murderers that carried out 9-11.

01:33:14.000 Every time you give somebody a copy, another person On average, wakes up.

01:33:19.000 Every time you take action, we are one step closer on this mission of bringing these criminals to justice.

01:33:25.000 I mean taking them to prison, folks.

01:33:27.000 I mean trying them.

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01:33:33.000 I mean, you've got to, number one, have the belief that you can do this, and you can.

01:33:39.000 The enemy tells you you don't have power, and that's because they're scared to death of you.

01:33:42.000 Okay, they're just now starting to figure out we're not listening to their propaganda anymore. 0.98

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01:34:30.000 1-888-253-3139 888-253-3139 You can write to me, Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704 Let's go ahead and take some calls for our illustrious guest, Sophia, the producer and director of the new film, 9/11 Mysteries Demolitions Part 1.

01:34:58.000 Let's go ahead and we'll talk to Jeanette and Jeanine in a minute, but let's go to Charles and Shawn right now.

01:35:03.000 Charles in Pennsylvania, you're on the air.

01:35:06.000 Hello, yeah, I'm listening over the internet here.

01:35:09.000 Welcome, sir.

01:35:10.000 Yeah, I just woke up about three months ago, and about five months ago, I was literally probably contemplating suicide.

01:35:19.000 And then for some reason, I was digging around the coast-to-coast site.

01:35:25.000 And there I clicked on your link, started looking into it.

01:35:28.000 And it's almost like an angel, you know, pointing me in the direction.

01:35:33.000 I mean, the truth.

01:35:34.000 So hold on a minute.

01:35:36.000 I mean, your life was felt empty.

01:35:39.000 You were unhappy.

01:35:41.000 You were just kind of lifting around, checking out Chubacabras. 0.72

01:35:45.000 And thanks to that show, and it has so many people here, and we're very thankful to George Norrie for his courage in doing that, now you feel empowered and like you have something to live for.

01:35:56.000 I mean, I was so far in a depression, man, but back to the point here.

01:35:56.000 Exactly.

01:36:02.000 Are you not depressed now?

01:36:04.000 No.

01:36:04.000 Are you angry?

01:36:06.000 I'm angry.

01:36:06.000 Good.

01:36:07.000 You know, I've been slamming DVDs.

01:36:09.000 I've copied over a hundred CDs myself here.

01:36:12.000 Yes!

01:36:13.000 Hatefully make copies!

01:36:15.000 I'm sorry to have to use that word, but I mean, I hate the evil of this New World Order.

01:36:19.000 I do what I do because of love, but I mean just aggressively.

01:36:22.000 Every time I finish a film or I do a, you know, write a new article or I do an interview, I just slam the phone down after some interview at 2 a.m.

01:36:29.000 and I'm all exhausted, but I go, I just crushed New World Order.

01:36:32.000 And we've got to have that attitude.

01:36:33.000 We're going to take over the enemy.

01:36:35.000 We've got the initiative.

01:36:36.000 We're never going to stop.

01:36:38.000 Let me hear your war growl. 0.99

01:36:41.000 Yeah, we're coming for you!

01:36:43.000 I'm sorry.

01:36:44.000 Sophia, we're kind of having a male bonding moment here.

01:36:46.000 I can see.

01:36:48.000 I'm so glad I'm not like that.

01:36:52.000 Yeah, I was originally calling about... I was lucky enough to see Freedom to Fascism. 0.51

01:36:52.000 I'm sorry. 0.51

01:36:59.000 One of the few hundred, I'm afraid, on Google Video.

01:37:03.000 Somebody put it up there and then somebody got it jerked down.

01:37:03.000 That's right.

01:37:06.000 And I tell you, whoever did it, that's the wrong way to go about it.

01:37:11.000 I keep telling him, I've got to get Russo back on.

01:37:14.000 He's been calling me and I haven't called him back because I've been so busy.

01:37:18.000 He's a great guy.

01:37:18.000 I need to get Russo on.

01:37:20.000 And go, Russo, they're never going to let it be huge in theaters, okay?

01:37:23.000 You need to put it out on DVD now.

01:37:26.000 The point is, get the information out.

01:37:29.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:37:30.000 But really, the bankers behind everything.

01:37:34.000 I mean, this 9-11 is a big branch, but at the base, man, it's the bankers.

01:37:40.000 And who do they... You're right.

01:37:43.000 It's hard to capture the public's imagination on that.

01:37:46.000 I mean, this is a violent murder.

01:37:49.000 9-11 is a violent murder.

01:37:52.000 And so that's why I think it's the most effective thing to cover.

01:37:55.000 Yeah, but you've got to watch out for Prince Charles, because he's...

01:37:58.000 Basically, the King Mason.

01:38:01.000 But he is pretty powerful, I agree.

01:38:03.000 No, we talk about the Federal Reserve all the time, and I support freedom to fascism.

01:38:07.000 I think it's a great film.

01:38:08.000 By the way, Sophia, have you seen Freedom to Fascism?

01:38:10.000 I have a copy here, and I actually have been communicating with Aaron Russo.

01:38:15.000 So, I have been swamped in the last month trying to get this out and line everything up, the website, the film.

01:38:20.000 I know how it is, yeah.

01:38:21.000 But I really want to see Freedom to Fascism.

01:38:24.000 And in the Who Benefits section of the movie, Part 3, You see, the theme of the first one is myth.

01:38:31.000 They gave us a myth about why the building fell and everybody believed it.

01:38:34.000 You're right.

01:38:35.000 It's the power of myth.

01:38:36.000 They came out with their big fairy tale within 25-24 minutes.

01:38:41.000 They said it was Bin Laden, and it's just not true.

01:38:44.000 Sorry.

01:38:44.000 And they said it was jet fuel.

01:38:46.000 And the second movie, the theme will be illusion.

01:38:50.000 So I'll have myth for the first one, illusion for the second one, and then secrecy for the third one.

01:38:56.000 And that's where you have to go into things like Federal Reserve, secret societies.

01:39:01.000 The top of the pyramid is shrouded.

01:39:04.000 No one can really see it.

01:39:06.000 And right now, we just need to build awareness about reality and fact.

01:39:11.000 Well, I'm not tooting my horn, Sophia, but I can see it crystal clear.

01:39:15.000 Do you know how I can see the very top of the pyramid?

01:39:18.000 How?

01:39:19.000 Because all of their secrets are revealed by their actions.

01:39:23.000 And so you can tell what the most secret operation is after you've watched it manifest.

01:39:28.000 You can see the chain they build on each event.

01:39:32.000 And once you've done that, you do start to get a very clear picture of their overall operation.

01:39:39.000 Well, you've been at this longer than I have, and your productions have, I assume, built up to that.

01:39:48.000 But I just started, and so I'm tackling this on the level that I became... Well, I agree with you that for the general public, and it's even hard to articulate what's at the top of the pyramid, it's so complex.

01:40:00.000 Right.

01:40:00.000 And it's dark majesty.

01:40:02.000 But, I mean, so I agree with what you said.

01:40:04.000 I'm not, but it's just that we know what their overall world government goal is.

01:40:08.000 We know what their program is.

01:40:10.000 Sorry.

01:40:11.000 Go ahead.

01:40:13.000 Well, Alex, I really admire you for everything you do, and as I watched waves breaking at the ocean yesterday, I realized that there's all kinds of water under a wave.

01:40:24.000 There's the part of the wave that crests, which is your high-level action.

01:40:29.000 And then there's all this enormous, all these gallons of water beneath the wave, supporting the wave.

01:40:35.000 And I see that as the public out there, and they become aware They don't have to all rise into action and fight and scream.

01:40:45.000 But they have to stand behind the people who are willing to take the front line of fire, you know?

01:40:51.000 We are all part of this.

01:40:54.000 We can all do something together in our own way.

01:40:57.000 The people with the quiet voices and the people with the loud voices.

01:41:02.000 Good to hear from you.

01:41:02.000 I agree.

01:41:03.000 And don't you ever think about suicide, Charles.

01:41:07.000 You promise me? 0.52

01:41:08.000 Yeah, I plan.

01:41:10.000 Never!

01:41:10.000 You never give the New World Order what they want.

01:41:12.000 You live a good life.

01:41:13.000 There's a lot of bad stuff in the world, but you look at God's beautiful creation out there.

01:41:16.000 You go out there and do good.

01:41:18.000 You go out there and help homeless people.

01:41:19.000 You go out there... You know, people ask how we defeat the New World Order.

01:41:22.000 We live good lives.

01:41:23.000 We love each other.

01:41:24.000 We stand up against bullies.

01:41:26.000 If we just have the right type of attitude, the right type of people, we have become dominated by this evil force because we became decadent.

01:41:34.000 We became self-centered, folks.

01:41:36.000 And these yuppies think you care about yourself, you get ahead.

01:41:38.000 That is not how the world works.

01:41:40.000 You start caring about others, then you get ahead.

01:41:43.000 It's incredible.

01:41:44.000 Let's talk to Sean in Texas.

01:41:46.000 Sean, you're on the air.

01:41:47.000 Hey, Alex.

01:41:47.000 Go ahead.

01:41:50.000 First-time caller.

01:41:50.000 Hi.

01:41:51.000 Welcome.

01:41:53.000 I was wondering if you saw the CNN report on President Chavez.

01:42:00.000 What, his speech he gave this morning?

01:42:03.000 Uh, the latest one, it was just live.

01:42:05.000 Yeah, I know he just gave a speech like an hour ago.

01:42:08.000 No, I bet I was on the air.

01:42:09.000 What'd he say? 0.87

01:42:10.000 He said that, uh, President of the United States was a devil and at the podium at the U.N. 0.98

01:42:17.000 Smelled like sulfur. 0.95

01:42:18.000 Yeah, I've got the transcript.

01:42:21.000 Yep, I just wanted to let you know.

01:42:23.000 What else?

01:42:23.000 Tell us more.

01:42:24.000 Tell us about it.

01:42:24.000 You saw it.

01:42:26.000 Oh, he just basically talked about New World Order, uh, His versions of democracy across the world are a vague, hard reality that nobody can really grasp.

01:42:41.000 It's just so horrible that he can't go through this.

01:42:47.000 It's just horrible.

01:42:49.000 He kept ranting about everything, about how 30 years ago, the United States, the CIA, Helped out a bomber, bring down an airplane in Cuba.

01:43:06.000 Yeah, that's in my film, Terror Storm, yeah?

01:43:08.000 Yeah, he went on about that, said we're harboring the fugitive who... Luis Posada Correlius.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, and much more.

01:43:17.000 They said the CIA went... So he talked about government sponsored terror.

01:43:22.000 Did he talk about 9-11 like he did last week?

01:43:25.000 Vaguely.

01:43:26.000 He said something about the CIA Uh, involved in terrorism in the United States.

01:43:31.000 You know, uh, about the buildings.

01:43:33.000 But he didn't say 9-11.

01:43:36.000 Wow!

01:43:36.000 He said the CIA involved in the U.S.

01:43:38.000 with the terrorism with the buildings.

01:43:39.000 Well, that's 9-11.

01:43:40.000 That's pretty darn clear.

01:43:41.000 Good to hear from you.

01:43:42.000 Yeah.

01:43:43.000 Uh, in fact, I got Paul Watson and Steve Watson.

01:43:45.000 I know both of you are listening. 0.93

01:43:47.000 My, my little devil dogs.

01:43:50.000 I want you to get over there and get that transcript and write a big article on it right now.

01:43:54.000 Thank you.

01:43:56.000 That's a good question for our guest.

01:43:57.000 Sophia, how exciting is that to you to see Ahmed Dinejad and his top general and now Hugo Chavez going public on 9-11?

01:44:06.000 Iran has said it's an inside job.

01:44:08.000 Chavez has said that you can't ignore it and the evidence shows that the buildings were blown up and that he believes it could be an inside job.

01:44:15.000 Your take on that?

01:44:17.000 Well, I think it's remarkable that world leaders and the public in so many foreign countries is waking up so fast to 9-11 and willing to discuss it.

01:44:26.000 I mean, it's easier perhaps for them because they're not in America or Americans, but I think this is a great Beginning for us.

01:44:34.000 If they start, then we should wake up.

01:44:36.000 We should follow.

01:44:37.000 It's going to be natural.

01:44:39.000 Exactly.

01:44:39.000 I mean, think of the hubris of the globalists above Bush that carried out 9-11.

01:44:42.000 Because let's be honest, Bush is a puppet.

01:44:44.000 But chaining it up, I'm definitely involved. 0.78

01:44:47.000 I mean, they thought they could just blow up buildings in front of us and claim 19 guys with box cutters did it.

01:44:54.000 They thought they could just do this sloppy job in front of us with Northwood still being public.

01:45:00.000 It's just, we are going to expose you.

01:45:04.000 Sophia, I think they're just now starting to figure that out.

01:45:06.000 I mean, are you seeing the same thing I'm seeing, that some of their arrogance is draining their faces? 0.91

01:45:11.000 Well, I don't think they're stupid, whoever did this, and they have to know that they're dealing with a very scripted public. 0.99

01:45:19.000 People in America especially are... apparently the human being, Alex, is easier to train than the dog. 0.99

01:45:25.000 Yeah, we like scripting.

01:45:27.000 People like scripting.

01:45:28.000 Yes, and it's very easy to follow the convention in this culture to get up in the morning, go to your job, and then worry about little side things and make those the big issues of your day and not have awareness.

01:45:43.000 It's not natural for people in Milwaukee to be aware of people in Iraq because they can't see them.

01:45:52.000 When the world was populated by a few thousand people scattered in different continents who didn't even know about each other did they ever think about each other?

01:46:01.000 So we're not hardwired to have global awareness and that's why I think it's so difficult to get people to care about this stuff and I've had friends tell me I don't want to hear about 9-11 That was five years ago.

01:46:01.000 No!

01:46:15.000 Tell me about what's happening now.

01:46:17.000 And I go, don't you get it?

01:46:18.000 It's all connected.

01:46:19.000 And they don't want to get it.

01:46:21.000 Well, let me tell them to get it right now.

01:46:23.000 Listen to me.

01:46:24.000 Listen to me.

01:46:25.000 For those of you out there that haven't figured this out yet, we are not safe.

01:46:29.000 Very bad killers, cold-blooded murderers are in control.

01:46:36.000 Okay, they're in control of our military.

01:46:37.000 They're in control of our government.

01:46:40.000 They're in control of our culture. 0.98

01:46:41.000 They openly say they want to set up a high-tech police state.

01:46:44.000 They openly say they want one-child policies.

01:46:47.000 They openly say they want to take your private property.

01:46:49.000 They openly say they want to sterilize you.

01:46:52.000 They openly say they want to have controlled plagues. 0.96

01:46:54.000 Dick Cheney openly wrote he wants race-specific bioweapons to kill certain races. 0.99

01:46:58.000 These people think we're so dumb, they write this stuff down. 0.99

01:47:03.000 Okay? 0.98

01:47:04.000 And none of us are safe.

01:47:06.000 You better get concerned about this.

01:47:09.000 You better get involved, because they're about to start World War III with Iran. 1.00

01:47:15.000 Sophia?

01:47:16.000 Yes, I'm here.

01:47:18.000 I'm learning, Alex.

01:47:19.000 What do you think about Iran?

01:47:21.000 I was going to make a bumper sticker.

01:47:24.000 It would have to feature George Bush's face in order to be, you know, absorbed.

01:47:30.000 But it's not George Bush, of course, and I was going to put on it Iraq is what I did before I ran.

01:47:37.000 Oh man, I ought to steal that.

01:47:41.000 You can steal it.

01:47:42.000 I haven't made it yet.

01:47:43.000 Be my guest.

01:47:44.000 Oh boy.

01:47:45.000 Yes, Iraq, as it's mispronounced, is what I did before I ran.

01:47:50.000 That's amazing.

01:47:52.000 Let's take a quick call here.

01:47:54.000 First time caller, Jeanette in Texas, then others.

01:47:58.000 Go ahead, Jeanette.

01:47:59.000 Afternoon, Alex.

01:48:00.000 Hi.

01:48:01.000 And, Sophia, I just saw your film last night.

01:48:03.000 It's fabulous.

01:48:04.000 Oh, thank you!

01:48:06.000 Anyway, Alex, I had called on a different subject, if that's acceptable.

01:48:10.000 Sure, go ahead.

01:48:11.000 Touching on this professor at UT Arlington.

01:48:14.000 Yes.

01:48:15.000 When I first heard about it, I about had a stroke, because, you know, basically this guy's doing this on my dime.

01:48:21.000 And he does it every day.

01:48:23.000 Uh-huh.

01:48:24.000 Well, anyway, are you aware But he is currently in violation of the U.N.

01:48:29.000 Genocide Convention, which was adopted by the General Assembly in December of 1948.

01:48:36.000 Yes, but that's all selectively enforced. 0.99

01:48:38.000 Look, if a black guy or a white guy got up and said all blacks or all Mexicans should be killed, they'd be fired so quick it'd make their heads spin. 0.99

01:48:46.000 But, professors all over the country in Chicano Studies, including the UT head of Chicano Studies, Arlington, Folks, I've got him on tape, I've played him here, saying all whites need to die now, and it's just crazy. 0.99

01:49:02.000 Well, I've been in touch with, first of all, the university.

01:49:04.000 I gave them a chance to react.

01:49:05.000 They didn't naturally, they ignored me.

01:49:08.000 And then I contacted my U.S.

01:49:10.000 Representative, Joe Barton, and he let him know about this.

01:49:16.000 And I've been in touch with the U.N.

01:49:19.000 And now I'm going to be getting in touch with the Texas Attorney General about this guy.

01:49:27.000 It's under his jurisdiction.

01:49:30.000 Well, people can find all the mainstream news articles and clips of him all over online saying it.

01:49:35.000 I mean... I have a rather long web address.

01:49:38.000 I could give it to your call screener.

01:49:40.000 Yeah, just stay there.

01:49:41.000 I'll talk to you during the break.

01:49:42.000 We'll be right back with our guest and more phone calls.

01:49:45.000 We just talked to... Well, we'll be right back.

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01:53:00.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:53:16.000 It's pretty wild stuff that he says, but it's part of the course.

01:53:20.000 Janine, you're on the air.

01:53:22.000 Where are you calling us from today, Janine?

01:53:24.000 North Carolina.

01:53:25.000 Welcome.

01:53:25.000 What's on your mind?

01:53:26.000 Well, I first got to say, Alex and Techie Crew, respect, for real.

01:53:32.000 Question is, what was NORAD's role during the crisis hours of 9-11 Well, their role was running drills of planes being flown to the exact same buildings at the exact same time, and NORAD stood down.

01:53:49.000 And we know that the default position was to shoot fighters down before 9-11, but months before 9-11, Dick Cheney took the authority away from the generals and reversed it only to himself or to designates who he gave orders to.

01:54:04.000 And so again, it's just at every point we see them opening the door for this to happen.

01:54:12.000 Alright, one more question.

01:54:14.000 What's one thing we can do to show our government we're not afraid of them?

01:54:20.000 I think the biggest thing you can do is go to places like Google Video and get my film Terror Storm that I put out for free and email it out to everybody you know.

01:54:30.000 Believe me, that shows them.

01:54:33.000 Go online and send 9-11 mysteries to everybody you know.

01:54:38.000 That shows them that you're not backing down, that you know the truth.

01:54:42.000 I think going online to different government message boards and websites and talking about 9-11 being an inside job.

01:54:48.000 Just being aggressive about the truth, because we know we've got murderers in control of this country who think they're going to get away with carrying out more murders and starting World War III, and we've got to let them know that we're not going to put up with it.

01:55:00.000 Let me talk to Sophia.

01:55:01.000 Sophia, what's your take on that?

01:55:03.000 What can we do to stand up and get involved?

01:55:06.000 Think simply to open our mouths and talk!

01:55:09.000 Discuss it!

01:55:09.000 That's all!

01:55:10.000 Discuss it!

01:55:11.000 Ask people, how do you think the buildings came down?

01:55:14.000 How do you think there were no intercepts?

01:55:17.000 How do you think hijackers being controlled by a madman in a cave could have done this?

01:55:24.000 If people ask the questions, if you think for yourself, you own your own consciousness, and they don't want you to own your consciousness.

01:55:30.000 They want you to parrot what you see on TV, which is just sound bites.

01:55:36.000 So, owning your consciousness immediately frees you.

01:55:40.000 You will not be controlled by them if you control yourself.

01:55:44.000 It's that simple, Alex, and it's in every individual's hands.

01:55:48.000 You can control yourself.

01:55:50.000 All you have to do is use your brain and your mouth.

01:55:54.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:55:55.000 So many people let the government and the controlled media become the map makers of their minds.

01:56:01.000 to literally just, people just turn themselves over to whatever the establishment orthodoxy is, whether that be black people aren't human beings in the past or the world is flat.

01:56:15.000 They were putting people in prison who said the world was round, and then almost overnight you were a kook to say the world was flat.

01:56:21.000 Well, 9-11 truth is the same way.

01:56:24.000 The people now, the majority, know that 9-11 is an inside job, just as a majority at some point knew the world was round.

01:56:31.000 And so that big shift has happened, and all the king's horses and all the king's men and all the king's spin doctors cannot put the fraud back together again.

01:56:42.000 And I want to salute you.

01:56:44.000 I want to thank you, Sophia, for making the film 9-11 Mysteries Part 1 Demolition, and I'm really glad to be carrying it on our secure online video and bookstore shopping cart website.

01:56:55.000 We'll talk to you in the future as things develop and as Part 2 and 3 come out.

01:56:59.000 I salute you.

01:56:59.000 Take care.

01:57:00.000 Thank you, Alex, so much.

01:57:02.000 And great success with everything you're doing.

01:57:05.000 No, no.

01:57:06.000 It's all to you.

01:57:07.000 I mean, together, all of us having success in this fight against the globalists is how we're going to win.

01:57:12.000 Take care.

01:57:13.000 Thank you.

01:57:13.000 You bet.

01:57:14.000 All right.

01:57:15.000 We're going to come back.

01:57:16.000 With the third hour with continual open phones.

01:57:21.000 And I also want to get a little bit later into Al Gore's global tax he's proposing.

01:57:26.000 And there's a bunch of other news on the war front with Iran.

01:57:30.000 We've got a special guest in studio, so stay with us.

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01:57:41.000 Big Brother.

01:57:51.000 Mainstream media.

01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.

01:57:54.000 You want answers?

01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.

01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:10.000 I remember a few weeks ago being pleasantly surprised by an article That was in the Village Voice.

01:58:20.000 It was titled, Fakes on a Plane, back on August 7th.

01:58:24.000 Conspiracy buffs craft their own online WTC movies.

01:58:30.000 And he then chronicles the author, Ed Halter, who's here in town for the Big Book Festival.

01:58:37.000 He then chronicles quite a few of the successful films that have come out concerning 9-11 and talks about how some of these, like Loose Change 2nd Edition, really are some of the first underground internet, what you could call, blockbusters.

01:58:55.000 And this totally shifts the paradigm where Hollywood spends, in some cases, hundreds of millions of dollars just to get 10-15 million people Globally to come see a movie, and when a couple of 23-year-old young men get together, they can get 20 million downloads.

01:59:16.000 That's about what it is now for Loose Change 2nd Edition.

01:59:19.000 Already, Terror Storm has been downloaded several million times.

01:59:23.000 I went around earlier this week to some of the places where you could see how many times it had been downloaded.

01:59:28.000 Dozens and dozens and dozens of sites where it had been downloaded over 150,000, 200,000 times.

01:59:31.000 Added together, it was well over 2 million and I just spent a few hours looking up the numbers.

01:59:40.000 So, it's really getting exciting, and this is challenging the dominant controlled press.

01:59:45.000 But, one mainline media outlet that has always been very courageous, in my opinion, is the Village Voice.

01:59:54.000 I remember, two weeks after 9-11, they were reporting about the EPA dust cover-up, and now that's mainstream news.

02:00:01.000 So, Ed Halter, it's good to have you in the studio with us.

02:00:04.000 It's great to be here, Alex.

02:00:06.000 You bet, sir.

02:00:07.000 I really appreciate you spending time with us.

02:00:10.000 We're going to break here in just about a minute or so.

02:00:11.000 We'll come back and recap everything, but in a nutshell, tell us about Ed Halter and why you wrote one of the fairest pieces.

02:00:18.000 The other one I saw on Vanity Fair was very fair, and I found out why.

02:00:22.000 She's a 9-11 truther. 0.85

02:00:23.000 Her husband is Frank Morales, a big 9-11 New York activist and a pissable Preacher, by the way, helps the homeless, so no wonder.

02:00:31.000 That was the fairest I ever saw, but yours was the next fairest.

02:00:34.000 Tell us about yourself.

02:00:35.000 Yeah.

02:00:35.000 Well, I primarily write about film, but I also write about video games and other kinds of technology.

02:00:40.000 And what I was interested in is, obviously, this thing came out when Oliver Stone's movie was about to come out.

02:00:46.000 So this kind of, in our paper, tied in with that as a news story.

02:00:49.000 But I started doing some research.

02:00:51.000 I heard about Dylan Avery's piece by reading the Vanity Fair piece.

02:00:56.000 And I started doing some research on my own and I thought, yeah, I didn't know anything about this and this is a huge world.

02:01:00.000 This is a huge community of filmmakers that are making this stuff, getting it out there to millions of people.

02:01:06.000 And I've always been interested in the way in which technology changes the way filmmaking works and what it can do.

02:01:13.000 I had written another piece for The Voice when Fahrenheit 9-11 came out, and I was fascinated at that time the way in which political activism was becoming melded with movie marketing, alright?

02:01:24.000 That looks like peanuts compared to this.

02:01:26.000 I mean, because while in that model, with Fahrenheit 9-11, they were trying to have political impact through the marketing of a commercial film, Yeah, obviously, in retrospect, they're inhibited by the fact they're still trying to make money with the movie, you know?

02:01:39.000 In this case, when you're trying to get out your documentaries, when Dylan Avery's trying to get out his documentaries, it's no-holds-barred.

02:01:46.000 You just want to get the work out there, and that's driving you, and it's driving the technology and the filmmaking forward, and that's what's interesting to me.

02:01:54.000 Well, it's an excellent piece.

02:01:56.000 I mean, most of these 9-11 pieces are so boring, I don't even finish reading them.

02:02:00.000 But, I mean, a lot of good insight and an excellent article.

02:02:04.000 I want to kind of walk through some of the story when we get back, if you'd humor me.

02:02:08.000 And then I want to talk about this book that you've written, From Sun Tzu to Xbox, War and Video Games.

02:02:14.000 I haven't read the book yet, but I read the synopsis of it and I really agree with what you're saying.

02:02:20.000 I want to kind of get into how video games are being used to basically mind control the public with this instinctive shooting and the rest of it with our guest who is here for the Texas Book Festival.

02:02:34.000 You can come out and see him and get a copy of his book and shake his hand coming up this weekend.

02:02:39.000 We'll talk about that as well and have open phones, so stay with us.

02:02:43.000 We'll talk about that as well.

02:02:49.000 After a year in production and traveling to distant lands, my new film Terror Storm is complete.

02:02:54.000 Shocking declassified government documents prove that Western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

02:03:02.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

02:03:10.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

02:03:22.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

02:03:26.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

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02:06:07.000 A great article by Ed Halter.

02:06:10.000 He writes for the Village Voice, one of the better mainstream publications in the country.

02:06:15.000 And he wrote a great story called Fakes on a Plane.

02:06:17.000 Just type Fakes on a Plane into Google and you shouldn't have any problem finding it.

02:06:22.000 We have links to it up on Infowars.com right now.

02:06:26.000 The sub-headline is Conspiracy Buffs Craft Their Own Online WTC Movies.

02:06:32.000 Ed, why don't you just kind of recap and expand on what you were just talking about concerning the emergence of the internet blockbuster political movie.

02:06:42.000 Of course, that centers around 9-11 and a real drive out there of people who are hungry for this.

02:06:51.000 I don't want to even call it a market.

02:06:54.000 This really is, I think, bigger than the Gutenberg Press.

02:06:57.000 Well, we know it is and the number of people it's reaching.

02:07:00.000 But I think internet movies, not just internet text reports and blogs, is going to have a greater political effect overall in a quicker time frame than what we saw with the Gutenberg Press.

02:07:14.000 So first off, do you agree with that?

02:07:15.000 And secondarily, will you expand on your view on this?

02:07:19.000 Sure, I do agree with that.

02:07:21.000 But I think what happens with the internet is you get some interesting effects in the way in which it distributes information.

02:07:28.000 I did another piece kind of related to this in my mind on the Mormon independent film industry.

02:07:35.000 Most people don't realize that the Mormons are building their own independent film industry to make films that are about them, for them, they have their own distribution things and everything.

02:07:44.000 What I'm interested in is the way in which technology allows these pockets of people to communicate with one another in ways they weren't able to before.

02:07:52.000 So, for example, the people that follow your show, before you were able to get this on the internet, you might have had a local, I don't know the history, but you might have had a local following in Austin, there may have been people in pockets around the country that couldn't hear you.

02:08:03.000 Now, it's this, you know, this huge network.

02:08:07.000 That's fascinating to me because I think that that kind of means that more and more political beliefs that might have been on the fringe before are able to pick up more steam because they can pick up more people kind of in the network.

02:08:20.000 And that seems to be what's happening with these movies.

02:08:22.000 But the mainstream media, they've still got the dominant market share, but they're losing their credibility, and I think that's because they're lying, twisting, spinning, having to tell the line for corporate owners, whereas the, quote, pockets are fringe, we're really telling the truth all along, and I think it's now a battle of ideas.

02:08:39.000 There's a lot of other fringe stuff out there, but it doesn't become popular because it's not based in reality.

02:08:44.000 Yeah, no, I mean, that's the other thing, is that the mainstream media is definitely losing eyeballs.

02:08:50.000 I mean, even something like The Voice, which most people wouldn't think of as mainstream, still is afraid sometimes of how it's going to get onto the internet versus being a print publication, you know?

02:09:01.000 So, you know, you look at, for example, with video games and the Internet, you look at demographics with young men, you know, up to age 30.

02:09:10.000 A huge proportion of them now don't even watch television.

02:09:12.000 They play video games, they go online, you know?

02:09:15.000 So that gives you... I don't watch television, unless I'm like sick or something.

02:09:19.000 Yeah, but I mean, or your own show, of course.

02:09:22.000 I don't even watch that, it's horrible.

02:09:25.000 Anyways, but anyways, it gives you a whole different perspective on what kind of information and it really involves now kind of seeking out the information you want and that's what's interesting to me.

02:09:35.000 But on the other hand, the downside of it is that, you know, you can miss it.

02:09:39.000 Like, for example, I honestly never heard of this stuff before I picked up that story about Dylan Avery and it's huge and I kind of stumbled onto it and I thought, my God, how did I miss this before?

02:09:49.000 It's enormous.

02:09:50.000 So that's the downside of this kind of internet communication.

02:09:53.000 That's what CNN said a few months ago.

02:09:55.000 They said, my gosh, we used to all drink out of the same cultural fountain.

02:09:59.000 We were cut from the same cloth.

02:10:00.000 Whether we were black or white, we saw the same movies.

02:10:03.000 But now, it's just everything's niches and fractures of fractures.

02:10:07.000 But I think that actually brings more freedom and more choice than the old thing of three or four flavors of the same thing.

02:10:15.000 And it is hurting the establishment more than it's hurting the alternative media.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, the trick is, though, is how to know what those choices are.

02:10:22.000 That seems to me to be the trick.

02:10:23.000 I mean, obviously, what you believe in here, you're really working hard to get that out there in as many ways as possible, which I think is one strategy for sure, where you have, you know, websites and movies and all that kind of stuff.

02:10:36.000 That definitely is one way to do it, is to kind of go multi-platform.

02:10:39.000 But you see this happening with all types of groups.

02:10:41.000 I mean, groups that we wouldn't like as well.

02:10:43.000 I mean, if you follow hate groups online, some of the ways in which they're structuring their strategies, like neo-Nazi groups and so on, is not dissimilar to what you're doing.

02:10:52.000 It's because the technology, you know, allows that.

02:10:56.000 If you look at people on the, you know, far-right Republicans, pro-choice people, any kind of driven group is... See, I won't even use that establishment term, because they can call them hate.

02:11:08.000 Yeah, which is really too weak of a term, and then the media can then use the word hate on somebody like me.

02:11:14.000 I'm a hater.

02:11:15.000 I'm saying the government had done 11.

02:11:16.000 I mean, when you talk about the toothless, you know, neo-Nazi groups and people are online, I actually go look at their numbers, and yeah, they're reaching more than they ever reached before, but they're still very small on the internet.

02:11:30.000 I mean, the ADL likes to hype it all up like they're real big for fundraising drives, but Believe me, I mean it is not as big as the media likes to hype at this army of blood-drinking skinheads that are gonna kill us all any minute.

02:11:42.000 But certainly they are reaching more people now because of the internet.

02:11:45.000 I just don't want the media and the government to use that as an excuse to try to stifle speech on the web in the name of stopping, you know, Johnny Klansman.

02:11:54.000 No, I totally agree with you on that.

02:11:56.000 And, you know, I'm not really necessarily even talking numbers, I'm more talking strategies.

02:11:59.000 No, I understand you're talking about the paradigm and the way they're using it.

02:12:03.000 Exactly.

02:12:04.000 What do you think the mainstream media is going to do?

02:12:07.000 I know in their board meetings, I know in their public strategy papers they put out, where the company is going in the next year, they're all saying we've got to go mainstream.

02:12:18.000 You know, internet, we've got to try to break down into different niche markets to try to serve everybody.

02:12:25.000 We've got to try to get this look, but you cannot get that look.

02:12:28.000 People know what's real and organic, and they know what's fake.

02:12:32.000 No, I mean, the entertainment industry especially is pretty much freaking out about it because they don't really know what the revenue model is going to be for them in the next ten years, especially the film industry.

02:12:32.000 Yeah.

02:12:42.000 It's not going to be good, I can tell you that.

02:12:44.000 Well, the music industry is trying to adapt through selling individual songs, for example, right now, and that seems to be working for some people now.

02:12:50.000 But again, it gets you back to the same question of how do you know what your choices are?

02:12:54.000 How do you find out about those choices?

02:12:56.000 And some of the ways you find out about it ends up being grassroots things like what you're doing.

02:13:00.000 I mean, not exactly what you're doing, because you're not selling music, but I mean, the parallel of what you're doing in, say, the music community, you know?

02:13:07.000 Well, I remember being interviewed by newspaper reporters 10, 12 years ago, and some of them were nice, like yourself.

02:13:13.000 Others were very arrogant.

02:13:15.000 But imagine the arrogance of a newspaper reporter who's got this monopoly and nobody else has a voice.

02:13:20.000 Imagine the arrogance of Hollywood producers and TV producers.

02:13:24.000 Now a lot of their hubris is evaporating and now they are horrified because they realize that there is just a total shift Yeah, they don't know how to... It's like they're waiting for the dam to break with some of this stuff.

02:13:47.000 especially when more and more people, I mean, as personal computers become more and more powerful, become more and more easily to transfer files, to save whole movies, to exchange them, like what you guys are doing right now with Google Video.

02:14:00.000 But it's gonna be that much easier for even higher image quality movies.

02:14:04.000 'Cause I mean, your films look really good, but they're not film quality images, right?

02:14:08.000 But very soon, people will be able to do that. - And very soon, what am I gonna do though?

02:14:12.000 It's not just the big dominant media.

02:14:14.000 I need to be able to pay my employees and operate.

02:14:16.000 So I go ahead and upload my new video to Google Video because I don't care, but I had the money to make that film because I had sold videos in the past.

02:14:24.000 And pretty soon, by the time I sell one copy of a film, someone can get it and upload it and it's going to be so crystal clear on the web that then no one will even need to buy the DVD from me.

02:14:38.000 And I thought about that.

02:14:39.000 The answer will be is we'll take pre-orders for two months.

02:14:41.000 There will be the initial sale.

02:14:43.000 They'll all be collector's items and $100 apiece on the bubble chip or whatever it is.

02:14:48.000 And then that's it.

02:14:49.000 You know, $500 are sold and that's the end of it.

02:14:51.000 And they're $500 apiece or whatever.

02:14:53.000 And then I guess people then are endowers of the film.

02:14:57.000 Or maybe people come and fund you with filmmakers.

02:15:02.000 They all come give you their endowment of 500 bucks, maybe 500 people, and then they all get their name in the credits.

02:15:08.000 Right.

02:15:09.000 I mean, why you're able to do that is because you are here with a mission, and your mission is before making money.

02:15:14.000 You make money to spread the mission.

02:15:16.000 Exactly!

02:15:17.000 That's what I get off on.

02:15:18.000 Right.

02:15:19.000 Whereas in Hollywood, that's not what they're... I mean, they're there to make the money.

02:15:21.000 The money is the mission.

02:15:23.000 So, for them, you know, it's... they're looking... They're terrified.

02:15:26.000 Exactly.

02:15:27.000 They don't know what... they're totally confused.

02:15:29.000 As to what's going to happen next.

02:15:30.000 But I'm saying even, this is even going to affect me being able to do my mission.

02:15:33.000 It's already, in the music industry, it's already affecting small labels.

02:15:36.000 Like, that used to be able to make money off of selling CDs to a certain point, you know, they're feeling it as well.

02:15:42.000 So the parallels that are happening in the music industry will be affecting the film industry next.

02:15:46.000 Well, I think the answer is education of the public.

02:15:49.000 Even if you can get something for free, if you respect the artist or the researcher or the filmmaker or the writer, you need to pay for it at least once, folks.

02:15:57.000 And that's what I do.

02:15:58.000 I mean, I can go out and find music for my MP3 player for my iPod, but I still go buy it.

02:16:04.000 And, you know, sometimes I lose an iPod or it breaks or, you know, I just go buy it again.

02:16:08.000 I mean, it's cheap and if you do not support, especially if it's small labels.

02:16:14.000 I mean, obviously, if you like something like Aerosmith, they made plenty of money, folks, don't worry about it.

02:16:18.000 But, I mean, if it's some label that's out there struggling, you're not going to hear music from them anymore if you don't support them.

02:16:27.000 And a lot of people think this way, and the very fact that we even think like this is an effect of what's happening.

02:16:32.000 35 years ago, who would even think about the ethics of what they bought in that sense?

02:16:37.000 But now, so many people think that, like, I want to shop at a small bookstore instead of Barnes & Noble.

02:16:42.000 I want to go to a small movie theater versus a chain.

02:16:44.000 I mean, we all make these decisions now because of what's happening, you know?

02:16:52.000 Well, that's exciting, too, because take, like, Alamo Drafthouse, really successful chain spreader up in Texas, and I know, you know, another guy that started it, and they just wanted to have a mom-and-pop show and art house films, and they're making money hand over fist, and the other theaters are going out of business. 0.88

02:17:08.000 Now, one of the problems, though, is that with, I mean, to get back to the fakes and the plain article, one of the issues with the kind of freedom of being able to put everything out there... You can put a lot of crap out.

02:17:08.000 Yeah.

02:17:18.000 Exactly.

02:17:19.000 We'll talk about that when we get back, and then we'll go to your calls.

02:17:21.000 We're going to talk about that after the break, and we will go to Paula, Steve, Clinton, David, and the many, many others that are patiently holding 1-800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.

02:17:29.000 And we will come back and talk about some of the disinfo that is out there.

02:17:38.000 Please stay with us.

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02:17:41.000 He writes for The Village Voice, and we're going to talk about his new book, too.

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02:22:03.000 Ed Halter is our guest.

02:22:04.000 Okay, Ed.

02:22:05.000 Yeah, your article did get into kind of the infighting, too, of people saying, this person's got to be disinfo, or this film's ridiculous, or people who made films where the title has a misspelling in it, and some say this has got to be a setup to discredit other work, and certainly some of that's out there, but I think some of the other stuff is just shoddy research, but give us your take on that.

02:22:24.000 Yeah, I think we were talking before that one of the downsides of this freedom that you have with the internet video is that anything can go out there, right?

02:22:33.000 So you've got stuff that is just, you know, some of it's ridiculous.

02:22:36.000 I mean, there was this one video that was called 9-11, what was it called?

02:22:41.000 Stranger Than Fiction, and they spelled the title wrong, T-H-E-N.

02:22:45.000 And this one was, you know, a really, really bare bones, low budget video.

02:22:48.000 It was just text.

02:22:49.000 on the screen, and then after a while they start blaming the Jews, and you're just like, "Okay, what is this?" There's another one where someone made a video about another video.

02:22:59.000 It was, if I can remember the name correctly...

02:23:01.000 "Screwless change." Right, no, the "Screwless change," but there was another one that was about "In Plain Sight." Oh yeah, it was called "Not in Plain Sight." So basically someone went through, there's another video called In Plain Sight that is an analysis of 9-11 footage, and someone made something called Not In Plain Sight, analyzing the analysis and saying, this guy is so wrong that maybe this is disinfo, you know?

02:23:27.000 So I thought that was fascinating, there's this dialogue going on between movies, right?

02:23:31.000 And then you also mentioned there's another one that attempts to debunk loose change called Screw Loose Change.

02:23:36.000 Which is total bull!

02:23:38.000 I mean, these debunking films attempt to... I mean, I like your article because it is truly fair and you're just showing how, number one, it's a huge phenomenon, number two, here's all the different strata and the different dynamics in all of this.

02:23:51.000 Yeah, because there's been other articles written about, you know, debating the points and everything.

02:23:55.000 I wasn't interested in that.

02:23:56.000 As a film critic, I'm more interested in the phenomenon of what's happening with this filmmaking community.

02:24:00.000 That's more fascinating to me than debating who's wrong, who's right, who's disinfo, who's not.

02:24:05.000 Because honestly, I mean, I feel like, my personal feeling is that this is like another 60s where 30 years from now we might find out what really happened and what was, you know, what kind of coincidence.

02:24:14.000 I was just about to ask you, what are you, well, I mean, sure, find out what happened in the 9-11 truth movement, but bigger, put you on the spot here, Village Voice writer, Ed Halter.

02:24:23.000 Ed, who do you think was involved in 9-11?

02:24:25.000 Do you believe the official story?

02:24:27.000 Um, well, look, I'm not a political writer, and I have to say that my, my You know, where I fall on the spectrum is that I would not be surprised if there was foreknowledge the attack was going to happen and they let it happen, maybe not even knowing how big it was going to be.

02:24:44.000 I can't go all the way into necessarily thinking that, but let me put it this way.

02:24:49.000 If more evidence showed up, I wouldn't be shocked.

02:24:52.000 It wouldn't be like a unicorn walked into my room.

02:24:56.000 Wouldn't be like a unicorn, it would be like a tooth fairy.

02:24:58.000 If I was in New York for 9-11, I don't think anything would shock me that I found out about this afterwards.

02:25:04.000 But right now, I have to say, my jury's still out, and I don't necessarily think about it as much.

02:25:09.000 Well, you know, the dominant mainstream media, and I know Village Voice isn't really mainstream media, but it's kind of like old line alternative media, Old Guard Alternative Media, and I really do like a lot of the work you guys do.

02:25:21.000 It's very fair, especially on the dust issue with the mercury and, of course, the lead and the asbestos.

02:25:27.000 But just about 9-11, I really think the worms turned.

02:25:33.000 I think we're winning the fight for the hearts and minds of the people of this country and the world.

02:25:36.000 Hugo Chavez is now going public saying, you know, those buildings came down, looked like an demolition.

02:25:41.000 You know, the government could have done this for its police state, had its war all ready to go.

02:25:44.000 Do you think it's starting to freak out the Bush administration and others who thought they could just ignore us, that it is gaining so much momentum?

02:25:52.000 Well, you can see the way in which Republican candidates are trying to distance themselves from Bush.

02:25:55.000 I mean, when has that ever happened where A candidate doesn't want to be associated with the President and his own party.

02:26:01.000 That's pretty severe.

02:26:03.000 But I have a question for you, because I saw that you believe that both parties are controlled, right?

02:26:08.000 But would you get behind, say, getting behind the Democrats for this election?

02:26:12.000 No, I'm on record saying they need to be elected.

02:26:15.000 I mean, if you had a Democrat in control of the legislative, the executive, And the judicial, I would be for a Republican sweep.

02:26:22.000 I see.

02:26:23.000 I mean, that's what the founding fathers of this country called for.

02:26:26.000 It's what common sense called for.

02:26:28.000 You don't want one party in control of everything.

02:26:30.000 Yeah.

02:26:32.000 And even if it on the surface looked like it was a good group of politicians, it's still dangerous.

02:26:36.000 We know we've got people trying to set up a dictatorship, trying to really set up a real live police state.

02:26:42.000 Houston Chronicle, you know, talking about FEMA camps for dissidents.

02:26:45.000 So, yes, I don't care how bad the Democrat is.

02:26:49.000 I don't have any anti, any third party, anybody who isn't... In fact, I'm not just saying get Republicans out.

02:26:56.000 I'm saying get incumbents out.

02:26:57.000 I'm saying get the Senators who are pro-war out.

02:27:02.000 Get the people like Lieberman who supported Bush out.

02:27:06.000 Just get these pro-war people out.

02:27:10.000 Who do you think should be in office? 0.95

02:27:12.000 Well, I mean, I'd like to see some ballots to the government right now.

02:27:16.000 We've been so out of whack for so long.

02:27:18.000 Yeah, that's my view.

02:27:19.000 You know?

02:27:20.000 And I really love... I mean, I'm holding out the hope that we could... maybe the Democrats could take more of the House and the... Well, yeah, but the Republicans have raced to put their die-bold ES&S and harder-than-the-civics garbage.

02:27:32.000 We'll be right back with our guest to talk about his new book.

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02:30:54.000 We are going to your phone calls here momentarily.

02:30:57.000 I want to move quickly through them.

02:30:58.000 But tell me about, from Sun Tzu to Xbox, war and video games, Ed.

02:31:03.000 Tell me about your book.

02:31:06.000 Hold on, there we are.

02:31:07.000 Yeah, so this is a book I just came out this summer.

02:31:10.000 It's about the history of the relationships between war, specifically the American military, and the development of video games.

02:31:16.000 And what's interesting to me about it and why I wrote the book is that they actually have a long and convoluted history with one another.

02:31:23.000 Most people don't know this.

02:31:25.000 In fact, some people, in kind of like urban legend, They kind of think that video games have something to do with the military or something, but I kind of lay it out.

02:31:32.000 I lay it out.

02:31:32.000 Well, and you just gave me a copy.

02:31:35.000 Okay, let me see if my urban legend is correct.

02:31:38.000 Of course, I've read pieces of this in news articles.

02:31:40.000 In Vietnam, they were having a large percentage of people unable to pull the trigger and kill enemies up close when they could actually look at them in the face, and so they wanted a way to break off that thinking process and have instinctive shooting. 0.52

02:31:56.000 And so, of course, they came out with the pop-up targets, the paper targets, going through the obstacle courses, but they found that wasn't good enough, so they put the seed money into the graphics to...

02:32:05.000 to develop games to put people in these big TV screen type simulators with the cop shoot-em-ups and so a lot of that seed money throughout helped roll this out and even today the army pays to put out complex video games.

02:32:19.000 We were out killing Ben Wadden and this uses a marketing tool to sell the youth and when you play video games for a long period of time you actually go into a state that is lower than deep sleep and you're actually in a mesmerized I mean, that is part of the book, for sure.

02:32:40.000 What I'm interested in... I'm not showing off.

02:32:41.000 I want to see how it's accurate.

02:32:43.000 No, no, no.

02:32:44.000 What I go into is the actual technical details of how these... Well, tell us about it.

02:32:50.000 Okay.

02:32:50.000 For example, in 1997, there was a conference held by this guy, Michael Zida.

02:32:56.000 Who was with the Naval Postgraduate Research Institute.

02:32:59.000 And what they were interested in is this, is that, you know, for a long time, as you said, the military had invested money in creating what they call simulation technology, which most people would just call computer graphics, okay?

02:33:08.000 But in the 80s, the military was ahead of everybody in terms of this technology, okay?

02:33:13.000 But the 90s, when video games took off and personal commuting took off, the private sector started getting more advanced in terms of their graphic capabilities.

02:33:21.000 And so this guy said, you know, we have to find a way to bring these two very, very different worlds together, the entertainment industry, the video game industry, even the theme park industry, and the military, and see if we can share information.

02:33:32.000 Some people thought this was far-fetched because, you know, culturally they just work so differently.

02:33:36.000 So he had a conference, the National Academy of Science held a conference in 97.

02:33:40.000 They got together, and it turns out they felt they came out of the conference feeling that they could work together on a lot of...

02:33:47.000 The Pentagon's got so much money anyways.

02:33:49.000 Well, exactly.

02:33:49.000 And the Hollywood people... Oh, I can work with you!

02:33:51.000 And the Hollywood people said, yeah, you know, this would be great.

02:33:53.000 So, the, one of the fruits of that, well, there were a couple big things that came out of that.

02:33:57.000 First is a game called America's Army, which you, have you heard of this, this game?

02:34:01.000 I have, yeah.

02:34:01.000 Tell us about it.

02:34:02.000 So America's Army is a game that was released, it was produced by the Army, and it was one of the kind of fruits of this conference.

02:34:08.000 America!

02:34:10.000 Exactly.

02:34:10.000 Oh yeah!

02:34:11.000 It's a patriotic first shooter game that is free, okay?

02:34:17.000 And it came out in 2002, on July 4th, 2002.

02:34:18.000 There you go.

02:34:21.000 Uh, and anyone around the world can download it for free.

02:34:23.000 And when it came out, it was actually on the cutting edge of the technology.

02:34:26.000 It won all sorts of design awards.

02:34:28.000 They really put a lot of, they put like seven million dollars into the development of this game.

02:34:32.000 Um, and it's still very, very popular.

02:34:33.000 It's got millions of people playing it around the world.

02:34:36.000 And what this game purports to be is a, what they call a realistic view of military life.

02:34:40.000 So, you get to play an American soldier, go through boot camp, basic training, And then go on missions, some of which are modeled on real things that have happened.

02:34:50.000 And just recently, just this last week, they announced that in the new version of America's Army, they're going to have characters in the game that are based on real soldiers who are in Afghanistan and Iraq right now.

02:35:00.000 Maybe you can be an army intelligence officer and have Pat Tillman killed for propaganda reasons, and then try to spin it successfully where no one figures it out.

02:35:09.000 Well, that mission has not been written yet.

02:35:13.000 This is the thing though, what you're bringing up is exactly the point.

02:35:17.000 They always want to stress that this is a realistic depiction of military life.

02:35:20.000 But really what they mean is this is a positive depiction.

02:35:23.000 Because this game is created for recruiting purposes.

02:35:26.000 It's meant for a 14 year old sitting there eating his Cheerios and drinking his Jolk Cola. 0.95

02:35:36.000 Barriers that the military feels it has right now is the fact that you have a lot of recruitment age guys nowadays whose parents are baby boomers who remember Vietnam and they don't want their kids to go to war.

02:35:48.000 And one of the interesting things about this video game is of course because of the technological generation gap, it gets around the parents.

02:35:53.000 The parents don't even know necessarily the kids are playing it.

02:35:56.000 They don't know what it is.

02:35:57.000 They see them playing a game, and it could be any game, but it's actually a game created by the Army to help enhance their recruitment efforts.

02:36:04.000 And it's admitted that it's for brainwashing and for recruiting, but then you even try to tell the baby boomers that. 0.66

02:36:10.000 They go, the government doesn't recruit or brainwash.

02:36:13.000 No, we can trust them.

02:36:15.000 It's just mindlessness.

02:36:18.000 But as virtual reality gets more and more real, as, you know, in the next wave people go to these parlors where you get into these three-dimensional hologram fights or whatever, and then the wireheads, you know, well, if you want this job, you've got to have the implant, and then, well, sure, the old-timers, like, we'll be like the Amish because we won't take it. 0.80

02:36:36.000 I mean, that's really where all this is going.

02:36:39.000 Uh, yeah.

02:36:40.000 I mean, actually, I worked with these filmmakers who did a film called WWV, that if you go to my blog, which is warandvideogames.com, I have a trailer for it, and it's all about this.

02:36:49.000 It's about how virtual reality is really where a lot of the research in the military wanted to go.

02:36:55.000 Well, notice how James Cameron has just, like, disappeared.

02:36:58.000 He doesn't make things anymore.

02:36:59.000 I mean, he makes like three or four billion dollars and then he just disappears.

02:36:59.000 Yeah.

02:37:03.000 Well, in Hollywood, he has this giant facility.

02:37:05.000 All he's working on is hologram movies.

02:37:07.000 They see that as the, you know, kind of like before you had silent movies, then it was talkies, and the talkies have been here now, you know, from the 30s right through to now.

02:37:17.000 Well, then once it goes hologram, baby, once you've been in a hologram movie, you're not going to want anything else.

02:37:23.000 And all these other theaters are going to be shutting down.

02:37:23.000 Yeah.

02:37:26.000 Well, that brings up another point.

02:37:28.000 Another thing that came out of this conference was a place called the Institute for Creative Technologies.

02:37:33.000 This is a center funded, I think, initially with $20 million by the Army, and it's on the USC campus.

02:37:40.000 And what it is, is it's kind of a think tank, where they have people there who are from Hollywood, special effects people, they have people from the gaming industry, video game industry, and they have military people.

02:37:49.000 And they're there to develop virtual reality technologies.

02:37:52.000 And that's what's going to force it.

02:37:54.000 If the old movies are going to be displaced by the internet movie, and by everybody being able to make a film when they want to, and that decentralizing it, Hollywood's going to have to go to some new, super expensive, complex platform, where almost like a movie is like a theme park, so they can dominate market share again.

02:38:17.000 No, I think that's actually very perceptive.

02:38:19.000 I think that is part of the idea that if they create something that's even more expensive, that only an outlay of a huge amount of money can produce, that way they can compete with the kind of rise of this independently produced... I'll go to hologram movies.

02:38:31.000 Yeah, sure.

02:38:32.000 Wouldn't you?

02:38:33.000 Yeah.

02:38:34.000 So USC, so this Institute for Creative Technologies put out a game, they produced a game with a company called Pandemic Studios, which is a commercial gaming company, called Full Spectrum Warrior.

02:38:46.000 And this game was produced for console systems, Xboxes, okay?

02:38:49.000 The theory within the army being, we want a training device that is on that uses the Xbox because there'll be no learning curve.

02:38:56.000 Because all the guys coming into the Army now, they've played Xbox for years already.

02:39:00.000 They don't need to be taught how to use an Xbox, unlike, say, a specialized training simulator, right?

02:39:05.000 So they developed this thing called Full Spectrum Warrior.

02:39:08.000 But the interesting thing about it is that the deal they struck with Pandemic was that when they created it as a training aid within the Army, at the same time that it was being used as a training aid, it was released as a commercial game.

02:39:19.000 And they claim that that's also recruiting.

02:39:22.000 They claim no, but I mean, you'd have to be...

02:39:24.000 They're not...

02:39:25.000 I mean, it's also kind of like, you know, you probably know this as well.

02:39:29.000 The military has a longstanding pattern of interaction with Hollywood studios, you know.

02:39:37.000 Each branch of the military has an actual office that deals with studios.

02:39:41.000 And so, for example, let's say a film like Top Gun in the 80s.

02:39:44.000 A studio will go to this office and say, hey, we want to shoot this film that has a lot of kind of, you know, we want to use a lot of, like, new planes and aircraft carrying stuff like that.

02:39:55.000 If that office approves the script and if that script, by their account, has, quote, an accurate portrayal of military life, then they will sometimes allow them on there and you get to use this stuff for free.

02:40:06.000 It cuts down the budgets by millions and millions of dollars.

02:40:09.000 And this is a pretty common practice.

02:40:10.000 That's only one way they do it.

02:40:11.000 The military now comes to productions and says, oh, we want some ads, a product placement, which I call propaganda placement.

02:40:18.000 Let's take some calls.

02:40:19.000 Let's talk to Steve in Florida.

02:40:21.000 Steve, you're on the air.

02:40:22.000 Welcome.

02:40:24.000 Go ahead, Steve.

02:40:25.000 Hi, Alex.

02:40:26.000 Can you hear me fine?

02:40:26.000 Yes, sir.

02:40:27.000 Welcome.

02:40:28.000 First off, I've called many times.

02:40:29.000 I just want you to know, first off, that my family prays for you constantly, and we will continue to do so for your protection and your wisdom.

02:40:35.000 Thank you, Steve.

02:40:36.000 Hadn't heard from you in about a year.

02:40:37.000 Good to hear from you.

02:40:38.000 I sent you a letter.

02:40:38.000 You should be getting it soon.

02:40:39.000 Hope you get it.

02:40:40.000 I got in front of me Dr. Morgan Reynolds' article on the trade center collapse.

02:40:45.000 You're familiar with that.

02:40:46.000 I sent that to Ingrid Schleter and Vic Eliason at Crosstalk Radio up in VCY, up in Wisconsin.

02:40:54.000 And I've gotten on the radio with them, tried to discuss it, but they disconnected me when I was going through some of the cogent aspects of this article.

02:41:02.000 I've got their website, their emails.

02:41:04.000 I wish some of your audience could email them, because I've asked them over the past year three times to discuss this issue, as well as depleted uranium and Gulf War syndrome, and they won't even do it.

02:41:15.000 Ingrid Schleter, the producer, may I give her her email?

02:41:20.000 Sure, but if one talk show blocks you, you can just move on to the next.

02:41:26.000 Well, they didn't block it.

02:41:28.000 They just dropped me and he started giving his conspiracy theory that the government puts out about the falling of the trade centers.

02:41:34.000 They've read this article.

02:41:36.000 They know about news change.

02:41:38.000 I've mentioned InfoWars.com several times over the years.

02:41:41.000 And you want people to call them and tell them to cover 9-11?

02:41:44.000 I would like somebody to email them to Ingrid Schleter and tell her Why aren't you discussing this?

02:41:50.000 You've got 80 crosstalk radio stations across the nation.

02:41:54.000 Okay, it's a syndicated show.

02:41:55.000 Okay, sure, go ahead.

02:41:57.000 It's Ingrid at vcyamerica.org.

02:42:01.000 She's the producer. 0.90

02:42:03.000 Vick at V-C-Y-A-M-E-R-I-C-A dot O-R-G. 1.00

02:42:07.000 Or better yet, folks can just go there, find the show, tune in, and everybody should just get together and pick a day and all call in and take over.

02:42:14.000 Tell them you're calling in to talk about whatever mindlessness they're talking about and cover the real issues.

02:42:19.000 What else is on your mind, Steve?

02:42:20.000 Well, that station comes on at ten, about twelve minutes here in Pensacola.

02:42:24.000 It's 89.5 FM for your Pensacola listeners.

02:42:27.000 And I just wanted to thank you for the guests you've been having on for the Yeah, I didn't miss part of the guest you had in earlier, the lady about the World Trade Centers, but what I heard was very good.

02:42:38.000 This article with Dr. Reynolds, I've stamped all over at myinfoawards.com and made dozens of copies and put loose change on it and just trying to put the word out down here and hopefully people will wake up.

02:42:50.000 That's why we're having an effect.

02:42:51.000 Well, your hopes are coming true.

02:42:52.000 Good to hear from you, Steve.

02:42:54.000 Let's talk to David in Michigan.

02:42:56.000 David, you're on the air with our guest.

02:42:57.000 Go ahead.

02:42:58.000 How are you doing?

02:42:58.000 Hi, Alex.

02:43:00.000 I just, let's see, first off I wanted to quickly, as far as what you guys were talking about with video games, I want to disagree with you guys on that.

02:43:07.000 I mean, you're kind of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

02:43:09.000 Obviously there's propaganda movies for the KKK, you know, and Birth of a Nation, and propaganda movies for Nazis, and Triumph of the Will. 0.68

02:43:15.000 That doesn't mean movies are all bad.

02:43:16.000 Right, right.

02:43:17.000 I mean, I'm not saying that video games in and of themselves are bad.

02:43:23.000 In fact, I would imagine that our guest, if he writes about video games, is probably a video game fan.

02:43:26.000 Oh, yeah.

02:43:27.000 So we're just saying that when you play these for hours and hours, you go into an unnatural state of consciousness.

02:43:34.000 The major medical studies have been done.

02:43:35.000 You're very suggestible while playing these games because your viewing and your concentrating brings you into a very serious area where you can be very suggestible, basically, for mind control, for lack of a more complex term.

02:43:53.000 And that there is an attempt by government to lace video games because of their popularity.

02:43:58.000 In many demographics, they're starting to displace movies and TV as the most popular media.

02:44:03.000 So there is a huge movement of government control into video games.

02:44:08.000 But go ahead.

02:44:09.000 Well, yeah, I don't doubt that.

02:44:11.000 You know, obviously you can also, if you're in that state of deep, deep concentration or whatever, you can also obviously learn good things.

02:44:18.000 But, I mean, I'm big on video games, so I just wanted to quickly say that.

02:44:21.000 No, I agree with you on that.

02:44:23.000 There's actually a lot of people who are trying to do research into doing things like peace games.

02:44:27.000 They call it, like, the serious games movement.

02:44:29.000 And they're trying to harness the kind of, you know, engagement you have with games and see, okay, maybe we can teach other things besides just, you know, teaching someone how to shoot a gun.

02:44:37.000 Right, and there's just, like, social skills.

02:44:39.000 Like, if you look at the massive multiplayer online role-playing games and stuff, they're incredibly dynamic.

02:44:44.000 Before I get cut off here, I want to talk about the main thing, which is I'm in Michigan, so I can't see this, but Alex, you periodically talk about, you know, the cultural degradation, and have you heard of this movie, this new Mike Judge movie, Idiocracy, and the story behind that?

02:44:56.000 It's excellent.

02:44:57.000 Okay, did you hear, like, Fox cut the funding and Robert Rodriguez had to finish the effects?

02:45:03.000 Yes, the film, it's a good film.

02:45:05.000 I've talked to high-level movie producers, I'm not going to say any names.

02:45:09.000 The film probably would have had a medium-sized release, you know, 200 screens.

02:45:14.000 It ended up on about 500.

02:45:15.000 That would have been, it's due.

02:45:18.000 Everything Judge has done has been turned to pure gold. 0.94

02:45:21.000 They killed it because they didn't like the image of a dumbed-down public.

02:45:24.000 They didn't like how it made fun of Gatorade. 0.97

02:45:26.000 I know.

02:45:26.000 They didn't like how it made fun of, you know, toilets built into the easy chairs.

02:45:31.000 And they even tried to claim it was racist showing the future being brown, which it didn't really show the future being brown.

02:45:39.000 So, I think it's a very good film.

02:45:42.000 I just want to like, I haven't seen it, I don't know when I'll ever see it. 0.89

02:45:46.000 I'm reading about like, they say like, when you go to Costco in this, you know, idiotic future, they say like, welcome to Costco. 0.88

02:45:51.000 I love you. 1.00

02:45:53.000 And then like the most popular station on the TV is the masturbation station, where guys just like, keep talking about I don't know how stupid you look at with video games. 0.99

02:46:00.000 I don't look at all the pornography, so it kind of extrapolates these. 0.98

02:46:03.000 Well, no, that's not the most.

02:46:04.000 The favorite channel is just where one gag happens.

02:46:09.000 I know what you're going to say.

02:46:11.000 Just don't say it on air, sir.

02:46:13.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

02:46:14.000 Take care, man.

02:46:15.000 Thanks.

02:46:16.000 Do you have any comments about idiocracy?

02:46:19.000 You know, I'm in New York, and it's not playing there, so I actually wanted to see it while I was in Austin.

02:46:23.000 Well, it is admitted, and, of course, he's heard about it in Michigan.

02:46:27.000 It's been in the news, but inside, it's true. 0.80

02:46:29.000 They killed that movie.

02:46:31.000 Well, I heard they partially, I heard one of the reasons they felt they couldn't afford the possible lawsuits from all the product placement.

02:46:36.000 Have you heard that as well?

02:46:38.000 Yeah, but I mean, they're totally protected in product placement, and it's satire. 0.86

02:46:43.000 They don't even call it Gatorade, it's called Brondo.

02:46:46.000 And you see, the crops are all dying in the movie, and they don't know why.

02:46:51.000 We'll see Brondo bought up, like a hundred years before, because this was set 500 years in the future, set in 2005.

02:47:01.000 And Morondo bought up the EPA so they make you water the plants and the water is Gatorade.

02:47:08.000 And so it just shows that extreme.

02:47:10.000 And the cops, it's total police state.

02:47:13.000 Yeah, it's... Yeah, well I'm hoping to catch it while I'm here because I can't see it in New York.

02:47:17.000 Alamo Draft House, right up the road.

02:47:20.000 You can go right up the road here on South Lamar.

02:47:22.000 You can eat while you watch it.

02:47:25.000 Oh, I've been there.

02:47:25.000 I love the Alamo.

02:47:26.000 I should also mention while we're talking about movies that I'm also here this week for a festival called Cinema Texas.

02:47:31.000 That's right, Cinema Texas 11.

02:47:33.000 It is the 11th and I was a guest artistic director this year.

02:47:36.000 And there's one thing that I thought your listeners would really be into.

02:47:39.000 It's happening this Sunday and it's part of a series that I actually didn't program myself that's done separately called Parallax, which is about... Oh, so you're involved in running Oh yeah, yeah.

02:47:48.000 You're a big commander.

02:47:49.000 Exactly.

02:47:52.000 And this Parallax, though, is programmed by somebody else, and it is called The Political Economy of Images.

02:47:58.000 And one of the things I thought your listeners would want to know is that they're bringing in the authors of this new book called Torture Taxi on the Trail of CIA's Rendition Flights.

02:48:09.000 They are AC Thompson and Trevor Paglen, and they're going to be here on Sunday at the Victory Grill.

02:48:15.000 You can find out the information at cinematexas.org.

02:48:18.000 Oh, the Victory Grill!

02:48:19.000 Yeah, and this is a book about how the CIA used civilian planes, unmarked planes, to bring suspected terrorists to countries where they can be tortured, legally.

02:48:29.000 But we don't call it torture, we call it pressure now.

02:48:31.000 Right, exactly, pressure.

02:48:32.000 George Bush now, he runs the The encyclopedia and the dictionary.

02:48:37.000 He decides what words mean.

02:48:40.000 Tell us more about Cinema Texas 11.

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02:51:56.000 Well, I really appreciate our guest joining us, and he's the artistic director of this year's International Short Film Festival, Cinema Texas 11.

02:52:05.000 And this is a really popular festival, I've heard of it, and it's incredible.

02:52:08.000 Just the program's a beautiful little bound-style book here.

02:52:15.000 How many different things are going to be at this event and how do people go to it?

02:52:19.000 Well, you check the website, which is cinematexas.org.

02:52:22.000 There's a number of different venues.

02:52:24.000 The Victory Grill is going to be hosting the Parallax sidebar, which is all the political speakers come and some political documentaries.

02:52:32.000 There's also people who are into art films, experimental films.

02:52:36.000 We are showing a lot of stuff there at the Carver Center, which is in East Austin.

02:52:41.000 Sure, that's a nice place.

02:52:42.000 Yeah, it's a really beautiful theater, and that's the main venue.

02:52:44.000 But they can find all the information on cinematexas.org.

02:52:47.000 If anyone's into music, we have a concert tonight at... I can't remember the name of the place now.

02:52:52.000 You can find out at the website.

02:52:54.000 And we've got a link to it up on Infowars.com.

02:52:57.000 And you are the author of the book, From Sun Tzu to the Xbox, War and the Video Games, by Ed Halter.

02:53:05.000 Real quick, let's take a few final calls.

02:53:07.000 Rick in Nevada and then Joe in California.

02:53:09.000 That's all we have time for.

02:53:10.000 Rick, go ahead.

02:53:11.000 There's a very disturbing development, which is the co-opting and the resting of the 9-11 truth movement from the movement by Bush and his backers. 0.98

02:53:22.000 And folks like your guest who are still on the fence or who are still willfully ignorant or just stupid or refuse to face the truth out of fear or terror or whatever it is, Whichever pasture has the best cut, the tastiest cut of effectiveness in Well, I don't know about that. 0.96

02:53:45.000 are going to be the ones... 0.99

02:53:47.000 I understand that.

02:53:49.000 I'm chewing it right now.

02:53:51.000 We have to get this fellow on board and we have to wrest the 9/11 truth movement back away from Bush because he's starting to take it.

02:53:58.000 Well, I don't know about that.

02:54:00.000 What do you mean Bush has started to take it over?

02:54:02.000 He came out recently.

02:54:04.000 There's some audio available on the net in which Bush says that controlled demolitions may have been the cause of the collapses of the tower.

02:54:12.000 No, I know, we, oh sure, sure, yeah, we played that yesterday, we put the article out last week, he made that bizarre statement in his pro-torture speech of last Friday, and yeah, that's them trying to put back doors in now, like, yeah, there could have been bombs, the Al-Qaeda planted them.

02:54:28.000 Because even NIST, the federal government, is having to say now it could be bombs.

02:54:32.000 I mean, look, they're in a lot of trouble.

02:54:33.000 Oh, now I understand what you're saying.

02:54:35.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:36.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:54:37.000 Well, thank you.

02:54:38.000 I appreciate it.

02:54:39.000 Let's talk to Joe in California.

02:54:41.000 Joe, go ahead.

02:54:41.000 Hello?

02:54:44.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:44.000 Go ahead.

02:54:44.000 Hi.

02:54:45.000 How are you doing, Alex?

02:54:46.000 Good.

02:54:46.000 Great to talk to you again.

02:54:47.000 I haven't spoken to you in a while.

02:54:48.000 We're almost out of time.

02:54:49.000 What's on your mind?

02:54:49.000 Yeah, really quick.

02:54:50.000 I'm really upset about this, what President Bush is trying to do with that Tax-Free Implies World Trade Center Control Demolition article.

02:54:58.000 And the clip.

02:54:59.000 If you can put that actual clip on your website, that'll be great.

02:55:02.000 We did.

02:55:03.000 We have two people on a row bringing this stuff.

02:55:05.000 That's interesting.

02:55:06.000 On video?

02:55:06.000 No, I didn't see the video.

02:55:07.000 I just saw the audio, but not the video one.

02:55:09.000 Well, he gave the press conferences at C-SPAN.org, and I don't know why Paul just put the audio up there, but okay.

02:55:15.000 But that would be great, because that shows... Tell you what, go find it for us.

02:55:18.000 Clip it out for us.

02:55:19.000 Email it to us.

02:55:19.000 We'll post it.

02:55:20.000 Backdoor.

02:55:21.000 And also, too, I bought the Terror Storm.

02:55:23.000 I've made probably about 50 copies.

02:55:25.000 I'm making more every day.

02:55:26.000 Good.

02:55:26.000 It's an awesome movie.

02:55:28.000 Uh, one last thing.

02:55:28.000 Can you, can you make, I, when I ordered a service when I got to, uh, 9-11 was an inside job, uh, bumper sticker, can you make shirts that say that?

02:55:36.000 That's another good idea.

02:55:39.000 Well, that's an awesome thing if you can make shirts out of your own time.

02:55:41.000 I've actually told my people to do that before.

02:55:43.000 We haven't gotten around to that, but it is an idea that's bounced around in our little brains.

02:55:47.000 Get it done, Alex.

02:55:47.000 You'll see, I tell you, it'll be your number one selling t-shirt.

02:55:50.000 Alright, I'm gonna do it.

02:55:51.000 That's it.

02:55:52.000 Okay, sir.

02:55:53.000 I appreciate your call.

02:55:54.000 I really do.

02:55:55.000 And I want to thank Ed Halter for joining us.

02:55:59.000 The book from Sun Tzu to Xbox War and Video Games.

02:56:02.000 Have a great weekend.

02:56:03.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.

02:56:04.000 I know it's Wednesday, but still the weekend's coming up.

02:56:07.000 The big event's this weekend.

02:56:08.000 It starts tonight, yeah.

02:56:10.000 That's right.

02:56:11.000 It kicks off tonight with music.

02:56:12.000 Yep.

02:56:13.000 Fantastic.

02:56:14.000 Well, we appreciate your fair piece in the Village Voice.

02:56:16.000 We hope to see more in the future.

02:56:18.000 Folks, get Terror Storm and get the new 9-11 Mysteries video we're carrying at InfoWars.com.

02:56:23.000 God bless you.

Alex Jones Show - September 20, 2006

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