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00:00:39.000 This is Bob Dacey.

00:00:41.000 Substituting for Alex Jones while he's off doing something else.

00:00:44.000 I have no idea what he's doing.

00:00:46.000 Again, my name is Bob Dacey.

00:00:48.000 I am the host of a local cable TV Show, an access show, it's a news and political talk show called The Simple Truth.

00:00:57.000 I've been on the air as the host of that show.

00:00:59.000 I'm in my eighth season.

00:01:01.000 I've known Alex ever since about 1998 when he was primarily responsible for waking me up to what was really going on in the world.

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00:01:16.000 And the show that I do, in case you just happen to be in the Austin area and you have Austin Time Warner Cable, Which of course is going to be a very small fraction of the people that are listening.

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00:01:39.000 That's what I've been doing again for, I mean, my eighth year now of doing that.

00:01:45.000 Yesterday, we started out the show bashing the United Nations, and I'm not going to bash the United Nations too much today because I already did that.

00:01:54.000 However, when I covered a story that I had written on Infowars.com, which is up there now, called Treason 101, and after the show was over, I realized I hadn't finished making a point about what Treason 101 is all about.

00:02:08.000 Arizona State University promotes the destruction of the United States of America.

00:02:14.000 Well, I did point out that they have a new website up, and you can link to it off of Infowars.com, but if you've got a pen, it's www.asu.edu slash CLAS slash NACTS slash BNA.

00:02:34.000 But it's easier just to go to Infowars.com and click on the article.

00:02:40.000 Because it takes you straight to this website Arizona State University has put up a website basically what they're doing is they it's a mechanism to teach how to get rid of the United States of America at the college level and that's what it is.

00:02:56.000 I talked about how the Council on Foreign Relations is behind it and David Rockefeller's people and all that yesterday and that's in the article but I didn't I didn't get into the organizations and what is actually on the site, and I'm going to take the opportunity to do that now.

00:03:12.000 Now, you've got organizations and university-based centers as a section of the of the website.

00:03:18.000 And the universities listed are American University, Texas A&M, University of California at San Diego, and the University of Texas.

00:03:28.000 And they're all involved in this.

00:03:29.000 They're all directly involved.

00:03:30.000 Now, American University, of course, is the home of of Robert Pastor, the Council on Foreign Relations Marxist whose paper, Building a North American Community, is the blueprint for the merger of the United States, Canada and Mexico into one country.

00:03:50.000 So Robert Pastor here, I guess you could call him the Traitor-in-Chief, you know, the pencil-necked, pseudo-intellectual Traitor-in-Chief whose great plan it is to merge the three countries into one and how great that's going to be.

00:04:06.000 So that's his university, no surprise.

00:04:10.000 And of course, one of the organizations listed on this website at Arizona State University is the North America's Super Corridor Coalition, NASCO.

00:04:20.000 And of course, NASCO, that's the group that is promoting the construction of the NAFTA Superhighway.

00:04:27.000 You can go to that website, nasco.org, and look at it yourself.

00:04:31.000 You know, it's quite amusing.

00:04:33.000 So, that's the spider web of corridors that's going to be their infrastructure requirement for this thing.

00:04:40.000 And when we get back, we'll continue with Treason 101, Arizona State University.

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00:08:07.000 Okay, we're back.

00:08:11.000 I'm Bob Basie, again, substituting for Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:16.000 And we're going to continue my little discussion about my article, Treason 101, Arizona State University Promotes the Destruction of the United States of America.

00:08:24.000 And that's no exaggeration.

00:08:26.000 That's just calling it like it is.

00:08:28.000 And, again, that's up on Infowars.com.

00:08:31.000 I was talking about the fact that the NASCO Super Corridor Coalition, North America Super Corridor Coalition, is one of the organizations on the Arizona State University website.

00:08:42.000 And that's very important because this is an integral part of uniting Canada, the United States, and Mexico.

00:08:51.000 You have to have the infrastructure necessary to make it work.

00:08:56.000 You know, last October, a year ago, when I attended the Free Trade Area in the Americas Conference for the New American, which is the mouthpiece of the John Birch Society, Dr. Supachai Panichpakti, the former head of the WTO and the current head of the United Nations Trade and Development Council, said

00:09:18.000 Point blank, he said, you know, if you're going to have a trade area, you've got to have the road system, the infrastructure necessary to link the various areas of the trade area in order to make it work.

00:09:30.000 So, you know, this communist right there out in front of everybody and his brother, in front of all these pointy headed intellectuals at Baylor who don't have a clue about what's going on in the real world, you know, they all just, they think it's great.

00:09:43.000 That's what he said.

00:09:44.000 He was 20 feet away from me giving his keynote speech.

00:09:48.000 So you've got to have this infrastructure to create the North American Union and of course the North American Super Corridor Coalition is on this Arizona State University list as an organization.

00:10:04.000 And then of course you don't want to leave out the North American Development Bank because the North American Development Bank

00:10:11.000 It's proposed by Robert Pastor, the trader-in-chief running this thing, in order to fund the Mexican portion of the highway that is going to go from Lazaro Cardenas to the Texas border up through middle United States into Kansas City where the port, the Mexican Customs Port, is being built.

00:10:36.000 It all sounds obscene, it all sounds ridiculous like somebody made it up, but unfortunately, you know, it's true.

00:10:43.000 Kansas City Smart Port, that's what it's called.

00:10:45.000 Go look it up, you know, it's there.

00:10:48.000 So the North American Development Bank, we talked about this yesterday with Dr. Jerome Corsi, that's supposed to be the funding mechanism so that American taxpayers can build up part of the Mexican portion of this highway.

00:11:03.000 From the Mexican ports up through into Texas.

00:11:08.000 And John Cornyn, Senator John Cornyn, twice, not once!

00:11:13.000 Now this is very important for you to understand.

00:11:15.000 Twice, John Cornyn, the Senator from Texas, introduced bills in the Senate to create this North American Development Bank to build infrastructure in Mexico.

00:11:28.000 And if you think he's alone, Kay Bailey Hutchison has done similar Axe in the United States Senate.

00:11:36.000 Wanting to make sure that previous laws extended, you know, deeper into Mexico so that American taxpayers can build highway and railway in Mexico.

00:11:46.000 So, none of this is theory, it's all fact. 0.92

00:11:50.000 So, uh, it's ridiculous. 0.78

00:11:54.000 You got American taxpayers supposed to build a Mexican road, okay? 0.95

00:11:58.000 So, Then you have government agencies listed in this Arizona State University website.

00:12:05.000 And the point I make here is that this is not just some economic pie-in-the-sky theoretical university professor nonsense.

00:12:18.000 Government agencies listed or the North American Aerospace Defense Command, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, that's SPP.gov, and the U.S.

00:12:30.000 Department of Homeland Security.

00:12:32.000 So you think this is just some sort of a little economic project?

00:12:39.000 Uh-uh.

00:12:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:12:40.000 It's encompassing all areas of government as well.

00:12:46.000 And then there's an archive section.

00:12:49.000 And this is, just go there.

00:12:53.000 It's like academic works for these people to read, to absorb, to pull from, so that they can build their course, which, you know, should be entitled Treason 101.

00:13:04.000 You know, if you're going to teach your students how to sell out the United States of America, if you want to accurately title the course, it should be Treason 101.

00:13:13.000 And of course, one of these source documents listed on the archive is Robert Pasteur's CFR Building a North American Community document, which of course is the blueprint for the entire thing.

00:13:28.000 I mean, it's in there, of course, but that's only one.

00:13:31.000 This is an extensive list of links to treasonous documents designed to convince professors to teach their students that we need to go.

00:13:42.000 The United States is over.

00:13:44.000 You know, we need to merge with the crookedest country in the Western Hemisphere, Mexico, and that'll make everything alright. 1.00

00:13:52.000 And then there's a couple of more sections on the website which are actually the Meat and Potatoes teaching modules.

00:13:58.000 You know, if you have like a lazy professor who wants to do this because he wants to go along and get along, you know, publish or perish, you know, Uh, well, he doesn't, all he has to do is just get some teaching modules and he doesn't have to do any work.

00:14:13.000 You know, you can spoon-feed the guy and he can spread this treason throughout his, um, his student body there, right?

00:14:21.000 And then, of course, they have syllabi.

00:14:23.000 And this, this part of this website is under construction.

00:14:27.000 I guess if they're too lazy to be spoon-fed, then you can just bottle-feed them.

00:14:32.000 You know, say, here, professor, here's a course.

00:14:35.000 Ready to go, right out of the can, you know?

00:14:38.000 And then you can teach the destruction of the America without even having to lift a finger.

00:14:42.000 Just, you know, paw-parroting.

00:14:44.000 I mean, you're an intellectual.

00:14:45.000 You can paw-parrot things, can't you?

00:14:47.000 And the last thing I want to talk about in my article is I just want to read directly from a little question I have about these professors at all these universities which are participating in this.

00:15:00.000 One has to wonder if the professors that the globalists are conning into spreading the glory of driving a knife into the back of America have any concept of what they're doing.

00:15:12.000 Disauthors of the opinion that most college professors live in an academic bubble insulating them from the real-world consequences of their actions and of the implementation of their pie-in-the-sky socioeconomic theories and beliefs.

00:15:27.000 Most of them trapped by their own inflated opinion of their intellect Sadly, I do not have a clue.

00:15:33.000 Perhaps these people at Arizona State University would not be duped into teaching Treason 101 if they had a clue.

00:15:41.000 If they were given a copy of the United States Constitution, including the Bill of Rights.

00:15:46.000 Perhaps these professors need to be taught a lesson in the rights and responsibilities of being American.

00:15:55.000 I wanted to finish up on that because I neglected to do that yesterday because I got so busy with the other things.

00:16:03.000 And again, I want to take this opportunity to point out that if you want to learn about the North American Union and you want to learn about what to do about it and you want to get up to speed on it and you want to help to stop it, one of the best places to go is the John Birch one of the best places to go is the John Birch Society's That's www.jbs.org.

00:16:28.000 Specifically on the North American Union, it's www.jbs.org.

00:16:35.000 That's North American Union.

00:16:39.000 If you go there, you get the whole package.

00:16:42.000 You know, what is it?

00:16:44.000 Who's working to do it?

00:16:46.000 What's the security and prosperity and partnership about?

00:16:49.000 You know, why is this a bad thing?

00:16:52.000 And why should I care?

00:16:54.000 You know, I mean, you can go through the whole thing.

00:16:55.000 And then, of course, more importantly than all of that is what you can do about it.

00:17:01.000 You know, yesterday we were pretty strong on criticism, but not real long on solutions.

00:17:08.000 And just carping about it isn't going to stop it.

00:17:11.000 You know, that's a problem Americans all over.

00:17:13.000 I mean, this is not a liberal conservative issue, you know?

00:17:17.000 This is an elitist versus the rest of this issue.

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00:17:26.000 You know, when you're talking about these intellectual types, Run by the Council on Foreign Relations in the background trying to dissolve the United States of America.

00:17:37.000 It's not a theory and it's going on right now.

00:17:40.000 So, you know, also on the John Birch Society website, jbs.org, there's links to everything.

00:17:48.000 You know, this is an educational tool and you should take advantage of it for sure.

00:17:55.000 Now, as an example of that, There is a special report out that was put out in the New American.

00:18:02.000 It was dated October 2nd.

00:18:04.000 And this thing has been selling like hotcakes all over the place.

00:18:09.000 It's a special report of the New American on the North American Union.

00:18:13.000 And it, in detail, spells it out.

00:18:15.000 And if you go to JBS.org, I'm sure you'll be able to find it.

00:18:21.000 You can also go to the American Opinion Book Service, which is AOBS.com, I believe.

00:18:27.000 And you can order a bunch of them and pass them out to your friends.

00:18:31.000 Rig the thing.

00:18:32.000 Educate your thing.

00:18:34.000 If America knew what was happening to it, we could stop it.

00:18:37.000 And as an example of one of the articles in this vast compendium of what the North American Union is, is an article by our own Kelly Taylor and it's called Super Slab Paves the Way.

00:18:56.000 Kelly Taylor, of course, is one of the producers of the TV show, The Simple Truth, that I host.

00:19:03.000 Along with, you know, I'm the host.

00:19:04.000 Jeff Gentoff and Kelly Taylor are the producers.

00:19:07.000 And Kelly Taylor is now also a writer for The New American.

00:19:10.000 She's written a couple of them, and she's fortunate enough to have one of them appear in this special issue.

00:19:16.000 And this is in the article.

00:19:19.000 It's called, Super Slab Paves the Way. 0.50

00:19:22.000 The NAFTA Superhighway, nicknamed Super Slab by some, is a planned system of roads, rail lines, and more that will speed up the unification of North America.

00:19:33.000 And when we get back from the break, I'm going to excerpt from this article just to give you a taste of what's inside this special edition of the New American called the North American Union.

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00:24:24.000 All right, this is Bob Basie back once again in the saddle in the Alex Jones Show on December the 15th, 2006.

00:24:34.000 And we're talking once again about the North American Union because it's the most important thing you can talk about.

00:24:40.000 You're talking about this globalist crowd trying to destroy the United States of America.

00:24:45.000 Well, this is their baby.

00:24:47.000 This is something that they're doing right now.

00:24:49.000 It's not tomorrow.

00:24:50.000 It's not down the road.

00:24:51.000 It's right in your face right now, and this is something that all Americans can get excited about.

00:24:56.000 That's why this issue of the New American is selling so well.

00:25:00.000 It's because it appeals to everyone who considers himself to be an American.

00:25:06.000 You can wake people up with this thing.

00:25:08.000 Let me just excerpt from Kelly Taylor's article.

00:25:11.000 Kelly Taylor, once again, one of the producers of The Simple Truth, the TV show that I host.

00:25:16.000 This is called Super Slab Paves the Way.

00:25:18.000 In 2004, Austin residents heard rumblings of plans for converting local roads, enjoyed by drivers for years as free ones, to toll roads.

00:25:28.000 Soon we learned that plans for new toll road construction, conversion of existing roads to toll roads, property confiscation for land acquisition, awarding of building contracts to a foreign consortium, Shady campaign contributions and passage of the largest spending bill in Texas history had slipped past Texas voters unnoticed.

00:25:56.000 Local polls later revealed that over 90% of residents opposed the policy, yet officials proceed with construction despite overwhelming opposition.

00:26:06.000 An investigation into local toll issues led to the discovery that tolls will be the funding mechanism for the larger Trans-Texas Corridor, a segment of the massive NAFTA Superhighway.

00:26:18.000 The Superhighway is important in developing the North American Union.

00:26:22.000 Now, she goes into detail on this, but that's the bottom line.

00:26:27.000 Something that looked like a local thing quickly morphed into something much larger than that because it was always something much larger than that.

00:26:38.000 Any of this local toll stuff has never been local and the people that were trying to figure out how come they wouldn't listen to us, they didn't understand the big picture.

00:26:47.000 We on The Simple Truth on our TV show way back in 2004 immediately saw what was going on and immediately said so.

00:26:56.000 He said, this is not local.

00:26:57.000 This is a plan to build highways up into Canada and down into Mexico as part of a plan to merge the countries.

00:27:04.000 We said it in October of 2004 over and over and over again. 0.93

00:27:08.000 And people said, man, y'all are crazy.

00:27:10.000 This is just local. 0.90

00:27:11.000 No, it's not.

00:27:12.000 It never was local.

00:27:14.000 And no, are we so smart?

00:27:15.000 No, we're not so smart.

00:27:17.000 We just read the battle plan.

00:27:20.000 You know, that's it.

00:27:21.000 We just read the battle plan, we know what we're doing, and we're out doing our best to expose it.

00:27:27.000 And, you know, you can help expose it if you go to jbs.org and go to the North American Union section, get yourself up to speed, and, hey, help us out, because, hey, it's your country, and we're trying to prevent you from going into a burning ring of fire, which is what's going to happen to this country when they destroy it.

00:27:52.000 A few months ago I wrote an article for Infowars.com which I want to restate some of.

00:27:59.000 It's called, It's the Law, Feds Pave the Way to Toll and Privatize the Interstate Highways as Part of the American Union.

00:28:07.000 I did that on June the 29th on Infowars.

00:28:10.000 I was a guest on Alex's show and this article I wrote went all over the place and basically what it Exposes is the fact that it's already the law that the it's already in place.

00:28:25.000 It's not a bill.

00:28:26.000 It's not a proposal section 1604 of HR 3 signed by the president in 2005 is a How to for tolling existing interstate, I mean you do you think this is all just for new roads?

00:28:43.000 Well, you're wrong And I want to read one sentence from this article because it's a summary of the entire big picture.

00:28:53.000 Imagine for a moment what must have been going through the minds of the six-legged elites when they thought up this diabolical scheme. 1.00

00:29:01.000 The question is, how do you destroy the national sovereignty of the United States, merge it with the rest of the Western Hemisphere, Bill, the infrastructure system needed to link up the entire landmass, confiscate private property on a wholesale level, spy on everyone's comings and goings, and trick American suckers into paying for their own demise all in one fell swoop.

00:29:27.000 The answer?

00:29:28.000 Toll everything.

00:29:32.000 So, that's what they're doing to you, ladies and gentlemen.

00:29:34.000 And when we get back, we're going to go into what you can do about it.

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00:33:02.000 Crashing through the lies and disinformation.

00:33:05.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:13.000 Okay, we're back again on the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:16.000 This is December 15, 2006.

00:33:17.000 This is Bob Dacey sitting in for Alex Jones.

00:33:21.000 And Kevin Smith just handed me a report, which goes quite well with what I'm talking about right now, in regard to the fact that all this nonsense about the toll roads that they're going to be foisting on us throughout the country, selling off our infrastructure to foreigners, making us pay for roads we already paid for, the whole Kitten Caboodle is unnecessary. 1.00

00:33:47.000 I have a report here from Sal Costello who is from TexasTollParty.com.

00:33:54.000 Be sure and go to TexasTollParty.com and see what we're doing about this nonsense in Texas.

00:34:00.000 A&M report, don't need to raise gas tax, don't need tolls. 0.79

00:34:06.000 See the problem is Governor Rick Perry, who is a lying snake, has been, who falsely said he thought up the trans-texas corridor. 0.94

00:34:17.000 Now get this, the governor of Texas who is a lying snake says he made up the concept of the trans-texas corridor. 0.96

00:34:26.000 So Governor Perry is really smart.

00:34:28.000 See, he realized that in order to get the communist Chinese slave goods from the slave factories over in the far east that they would have to build with Walmart the great port facilities down there at Lazaro Cardenas and Manzanilla 0.69

00:34:43.000 And he realized that in order to facilitate moving more jobs, manufacturing jobs, over to China from America and lowering the standard of living of Americans, that he would have to build this trans-Texas corridor.

00:34:59.000 I'm sure Governor Perry thought that up.

00:35:02.000 No, he was handed it.

00:35:03.000 Say, here Governor Perry, think this up.

00:35:06.000 And that's the truth of the matter.

00:35:08.000 Because he's been saying, well, we can't do this any other way. 1.00

00:35:08.000 So the guy's a liar. 1.00

00:35:15.000 That's the wave of the future. 0.70

00:35:17.000 Public-private partnership.

00:35:19.000 Fascism.

00:35:20.000 That's what we need in order to build these tolls.

00:35:22.000 Because Texas is going to grow like a weed in the next several years.

00:35:27.000 All these people are coming in and we're not going to be able to handle it.

00:35:30.000 Of course, he doesn't tell you where all those people coming in are coming from, which is of course south of the border illegally.

00:35:36.000 But, you know, we don't want to talk about that, do we?

00:35:39.000 Anyway, let me read this report.

00:35:42.000 Texas Department of Transportation over-inflated needs by 30 billion dollars.

00:35:48.000 And this report pulls the rug out from under the pro-toll arguments.

00:35:51.000 Austin, Texas, December 13, 2006.

00:35:53.000 In a stunning admission that increasing the gas tax and tolls are not needed for future transportation projects, a Texas Transportation Institute report called Shaping the Competitive Advantage of Texas Metropolitan Regions, the Role of Transportation, Housing, and Aesthetics Affirms what San AntonioTollParty.com and citizens groups across the state have been saying.

00:36:18.000 The report discussed in testimony before the House Transportation Committee also revealed that the Texas Department of Transportation, TxDOT, over-inflated their funding gap figures by 30 billion dollars.

00:36:34.000 This is a quote from Terry Hall, Regional Director of San Antonio Toll Party.

00:36:39.000 This is proof positive.

00:36:40.000 We do not need to toll roads or raise the gas tax at all, much less a dollar nine a gallon, as TxDOT claims, in order to fix our roads and keep people moving.

00:36:51.000 It's TxDOT who lacks credibility, not the folks who have questioned TxDOT's figures and brought their misstatements to light.

00:36:59.000 And this was, again, Terri Hall, Regional Director of San Antonio Toll Party, who it says in this article is elated, because guess what?

00:37:08.000 She's right.

00:37:09.000 We've been lied to.

00:37:11.000 The report further bolsters the grassroots movement taking hold throughout Texas, which are working to promote non-toll transportation solutions and rid the state of the controversial and detested Trans-Texas Corridor.

00:37:29.000 The second most important thing, this is another quote from Terry Hall, the second most important thing to take away from this report is that TxDOT and the road lobby have been doing fuzzy math and prosecuting a propaganda campaign to mislead the public into thinking there's a transportation funding crisis the second most important thing to take away from this report is that TxDOT and the road lobby have been doing fuzzy math

00:37:52.000 The Texas Transportation Institute, TTI, is like the right arm of TxDOT, and for them to come out with this information further shreds TxDOT's credibility and puts a nail in the coffin of TxDOT's shift to tolls, end quote.

00:38:06.000 And another quote from Terry Hall.

00:38:10.000 Our legislature cannot ignore the truth and facts this report reveals, and we believe they'll finally take action to rein in this out-of-control agency that has purposely inflated their figures to push an agenda against the public's best interest." Hall contends.

00:38:27.000 With several toll roads set to go to contract in early 2007, This report certainly gives citizens the ammunition they'll need to keep TxDOT's version of tolls from coming to San Antonio and elsewhere around the state.

00:38:43.000 So there you have it.

00:38:44.000 That's very interesting.

00:38:48.000 Now we just more proof, just more proof that we don't need the tolls.

00:38:51.000 However, once again, the big picture of this is they don't care.

00:38:57.000 See, they don't care.

00:39:00.000 In order to, you need to stop thinking about this issue as a local toll issue.

00:39:05.000 It's not a local toll issue.

00:39:06.000 It's never been a local toll issue.

00:39:09.000 It's an international issue.

00:39:12.000 It's an infrastructure project to link Canada, the United States and Mexico.

00:39:18.000 It's a necessary project to merge the three countries into one as part of the North American Union.

00:39:25.000 Which will effectively destroy your country, America, you hippies out there, and you rednecks, and all the people in between. 1.00

00:39:33.000 Everybody.

00:39:35.000 So, you know, hey, get in the game.

00:39:36.000 Don't sit around carping about it.

00:39:38.000 Get in the game.

00:39:39.000 How do you get in the game?

00:39:40.000 Well, here, I'll give you an example.

00:39:44.000 Since this is an international issue, And since the United States Congress is supposed to be regulating foreign trade, and since the trader Robert Pastor from the Council on Foreign Relations claims, oh this is just a trade thing, it's no big deal, well the Constitution mandates that the Congress of the United States mandate foreign trade. 0.92

00:40:09.000 Dr. Pastor, you traitor!

00:40:13.000 Let's talk about the United States Congress. 0.85

00:40:14.000 Now there has been A resolution introduced into the Congress in the 109th session and then they're going to reintroduce it as as the new session comes up.

00:40:24.000 But for now it's called a House Concurrent Resolution 4A7.

00:40:29.000 And let me just read this.

00:40:31.000 This is something you need to call your congressman, whoever you are, wherever they are, look him up, call your congressman, write your congressman, email your congressman, pester your congressman, hassle your congressman, Harass your congressman.

00:40:47.000 Plead with your congressman.

00:40:49.000 You got the picture?

00:40:51.000 Don't just sit around listening to the Alex Jones Show and say, Boy, those guys sure are right!

00:40:56.000 Because it's not going to do any of us any good if you don't put the screws to these people.

00:41:01.000 All they care about is getting re-elected so they can get all their goodies and stuff.

00:41:05.000 And they respond when they think they're being watched.

00:41:08.000 These congress people love to get away with whatever they can get away with if they think you're not looking.

00:41:13.000 But if you put the screws to them, they have to respond.

00:41:16.000 Let me just read this resolution.

00:41:21.000 Resolution 487 expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American free trade agreement, NAFTA superhighway system, or enter into a North American union with Mexico and Canada.

00:41:35.000 In the House of Representatives, September 28, 2006, This is Congressman Good of, uh, I think he's from West Virginia.

00:41:45.000 For himself, Mr. Paul, Mr. Jones of North Carolina, and Mr. Ten Credo submitted the following concurrent resolution, which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the Committee concerned.

00:42:08.000 That was a mouthful.

00:42:09.000 Here's the concurrent resolution.

00:42:14.000 Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement NAFTA superhighway system or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

00:42:26.000 Whereas, according to the Department of Commerce, United States trade deficits with Mexico and Canada have significantly widened since the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, Whereas the economic and physical security of the United States is impaired by the potential loss of control of its borders attendant to the full operation of NAFTA.

00:42:49.000 Whereas a NAFTA superhighway system from the west coast of Mexico through the United States and into Canada has been suggested as a part of a North American Union.

00:43:01.000 Whereas it would be particularly difficult for Americans to collect insurance from Mexican companies which deploy Mexican drivers involved in accidents in the United States, which would increase the insurance rates for American drivers. 0.52

00:43:15.000 Whereas future unrestricted foreign trucking into the United States can pose a safety hazard due to inadequate maintenance and inspection And can act collaterally as a conduit for the entry into the United States of illegal drugs, illegal human smuggling, and terrorist activities.

00:43:34.000 And, whereas a NAFTA superhighway system would be funded by foreign consortiums, and controlled by foreign management, which threatens the sovereignty of the United States, now for, be it resolved by the House of Representatives, the Senate concurring, that, number one, 1.

00:43:54.000 The United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement NAFTA superhighway system.

00:44:02.000 2.

00:44:02.000 The United States should not enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

00:44:08.000 The President should indicate strong opposition to these or any other proposals that threaten the sovereignty of the United States.

00:44:18.000 Now, that's a resolution and you need to back this resolution But you need to do a lot more than that.

00:44:26.000 You need to back legislation and all kinds of other stuff to stop this.

00:44:29.000 Now the third part there, the President should indicate strong opposition to these or any other proposals.

00:44:36.000 Well, you can forget about that because George Bush has been backing the free trade area of the Americas and the North American Union ever since his daddy told him to do it.

00:44:45.000 I mean, you can just forget George Bush.

00:44:49.000 You know, I was trying to make a point yesterday.

00:44:51.000 I don't think I ever really finished making it.

00:44:55.000 And let me just make it now.

00:44:59.000 George Bush and anybody else who became President, the Constitution requires that they take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

00:45:07.000 Alright?

00:45:08.000 And if they don't take the oath, they can't be President.

00:45:12.000 That's in the Constitution.

00:45:13.000 See?

00:45:14.000 Okay, so George Bush gets up there in Washington D.C.

00:45:17.000 in front of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and thousands of people in attendance, and millions of people watching on TV, and he swears an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

00:45:30.000 After such time, he's sworn in as President.

00:45:33.000 So in legal terms, swearing an oath to protect and defend the Constitution is a conditioned precedent to taking office as president.

00:45:44.000 Alright?

00:45:44.000 I don't think there's any dispute there.

00:45:48.000 When he willfully engages in a process designed to merge the United States, Canada, and Mexico into one country, he is violating his oath of office to protect and defend the country.

00:46:04.000 You know, the powers That the executive branch that the United States government has listed in the Constitution are few and they're well-defined.

00:46:14.000 One of them is to protect our borders from invasion.

00:46:18.000 Now you've got this invasion of illegal immigrants that's been coming up here for years. 1.00

00:46:22.000 Of course, Clinton's guilty of it too.

00:46:24.000 Bush Sr.

00:46:25.000 before, they're all guilty of it.

00:46:27.000 But right now, you know, Bush Jr., W.A.

00:46:29.000 is the president.

00:46:31.000 When he willfully, knowingly, refuses to do his duty to protect the United States of America from invasion, he is in violation of his oath of office.

00:46:44.000 Right?

00:46:46.000 I mean, I don't see how you can have an argument there.

00:46:49.000 It's not.

00:46:50.000 I mean, just it's in black and white.

00:46:52.000 When he lets these people come up in this country and Most of them, of course, are just, you know, it's not their fault.

00:47:01.000 You know, you open the door, they're going to walk through.

00:47:03.000 But you have all these drug dealers coming up here, all these drugs coming up here, this slavery brings coming up here, all the violence on the border, all the people getting killed. 0.99

00:47:13.000 You got, you got these sexual predators from Mexico coming up here. 1.00

00:47:19.000 You got illegal aliens murdering Americans every day, you know, and all the crime attendant with all this. 1.00

00:47:28.000 And the President of the United States, who knows that this is happening, oh yeah, and Dr. Corsi mentioned yesterday, they have arrested real live, genuine terrorists.

00:47:40.000 Arrested them and convicted them.

00:47:42.000 You know, coming up through Mexico.

00:47:45.000 And you know, while he pretends like, oh we need to save America from the evil terrorists, he's leaving the border wide open.

00:47:52.000 This is an act Which means that he's not supposed to be president anymore.

00:47:59.000 He has violated his oath of office to protect and defend this country.

00:48:06.000 And there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

00:48:11.000 And of course that's only one small segment of what this man has done as the puppet

00:48:19.000 of the New World Order crowd, this is the puppet of his daddy and his friends, this is the puppet of Dick Cheney and his friends, this is the puppet of the Council on Foreign Relations, which in turn is the puppet of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, which in turn is having their strings yanked by these international banker types, you know, the top, the cream of the New World Order crowd.

00:48:47.000 When the President acts in this manner He no longer needs to be president.

00:48:51.000 He needs to be impeached.

00:48:53.000 He needs to be removed from office. 0.87

00:48:55.000 You know, and of course, the problem with that is the current crop of Democrats is a bunch of wimps.

00:49:01.000 I mean, they made motions in that to that effect a few several months ago before the election that what President Bush was doing is, you know, worthy of impeachment.

00:49:13.000 And of course, I think the majority of Americans in polls have said that, hey, you know, the guy needs to be impeached.

00:49:20.000 But now the Democrats have taken over the House of Representatives and the Senate.

00:49:24.000 Oh no, Pelosi says, well no, impeachment's off the table.

00:49:28.000 And John Conyers says, well no, we can't be impeaching this guy.

00:49:33.000 So what needs to be done is massive, massive pressure.

00:49:39.000 I mean, that's what needs to be done because they're elected every two years and he needs to go and this North American community thing needs to go because it's one of the reasons he needs to go. 0.90

00:49:54.000 He is promoting this.

00:50:00.000 In, was it March of 2005?

00:50:03.000 Did the Security and Prosperity Agreement with Vicente Fox and Prime Minister Martin of Canada in order to facilitate the merger of the three countries into one country.

00:50:15.000 And I'm afraid, I'm sorry, that's an act of treason.

00:50:21.000 And I don't want to overemphasize that.

00:50:24.000 It's just, it's the definition.

00:50:25.000 It's just the definition of treason.

00:50:28.000 You want to merge the United States with Mexico, which is the crookedest country in the Western Hemisphere. 1.00

00:50:36.000 Drugs and everything.

00:50:38.000 That's treason.

00:50:39.000 And it cannot stand.

00:50:41.000 And we need to do something about it.

00:50:43.000 When we get back, we're going to go under the North American Community Document.

00:50:47.000 And we'll be back in a few minutes.

00:50:48.000 We'll be back in a few minutes.

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00:54:14.000 There must be some kind of way out of here Said a joker to the thief Yeah, that's right.

00:54:27.000 There must be some kind of way out of here.

00:54:30.000 And we're trying to tell you what that way out of here is in regard to this North American community monstrosity. 1.00

00:54:36.000 And in the last segment here, this first hour, I'm going to refer to this document today.

00:54:42.000 Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:54:44.000 Building a North American Community.

00:54:46.000 Report of the Independent Task Force on the Future of North America.

00:54:50.000 This is the blueprint.

00:54:52.000 Robert Pastor, who was the chief architect of this treason, actually admits, he admitted it to Jerome Coursey.

00:55:00.000 Yeah, this is a blueprint.

00:55:01.000 This is what we're doing.

00:55:01.000 It's cool.

00:55:02.000 It's not a problem.

00:55:03.000 Just destroy America.

00:55:06.000 It's just a wonderful thing, you know, just to merger with Mexico.

00:55:09.000 It's, you know, this is great.

00:55:11.000 I have this document right in front of me and I'm just in the next few minutes going to excerpt from some of these things in it.

00:55:19.000 Number one, I did a little research and I found out they list the task force members and 71% of the Americans on this list are members of the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:55:30.000 Go figure.

00:55:31.000 Go figure.

00:55:32.000 What an amazing coincidence.

00:55:34.000 On the subject of the border, to talk about the necessity to expand border infrastructure, in addition to allowing for continued growth in the volume of transporter traffic, such investments must incorporate the latest technology and include facilities and procedures that move as much

00:55:54.000 as processing as possible away from the border you know just forget about processing the goods at the border forget about the sovereignty of the country you know we're going to have the communist Chinese in conjunction with Lockheed put the little smart tags inside the Mexican trucks driven by the cocaine hyped up Mexican truck drivers rattle down the road and And that way everybody will know nothing, no kind of contraband is inside of them, because the communist Chinese are going to help run the thing. 0.93

00:56:24.000 You got it? 0.93

00:56:26.000 And of course, the expanding border infrastructure is the real reason, of course, for the trans-Texas corridor, Governor Perry, you lying person, you.

00:56:35.000 And they say that what we should do by 2010 is, quote, lay the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America.

00:56:45.000 Diminishing the need for the current intensity of the government's physical control of cross-border traffic.

00:56:51.000 Yeah, you don't want to check people coming into the U.S. 1.00

00:56:53.000 about it.

00:56:54.000 You don't need to do that anymore.

00:56:55.000 You need to lower that down.

00:56:57.000 They say that the long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.

00:57:11.000 And they talk about law enforcement and military cooperation, and among them, joint training for law enforcement officials.

00:57:19.000 Now, you know, there could be an advantage in that, I have to admit.

00:57:25.000 There could be an advantage in joint training for law enforcement officials.

00:57:35.000 The Mexican police can teach our police how to accept bribes. 1.00

00:57:39.000 And you can, you can, like, get out of tickets.

00:57:42.000 You know, if you want to, you know, just throw them, throw them some money and poof, you know, no more tickets.

00:57:47.000 You can make the tickets go away.

00:57:48.000 So I guess there, there are some potential small advantages of merging law enforcement with, with that of Mexico.

00:57:56.000 I mean, you know, law enforcement could become what it is in Mexico, an entrepreneurial enterprise.

00:58:05.000 And then they talk about what we should do now.

00:58:07.000 Expand NORAD into a multi-service defense command.

00:58:12.000 You know, I just can't wait to have the Mexicans in charge of protecting the southern border of North America. 1.00

00:58:20.000 You know, I just hope none of those crazy terrorists coming in has a $20 bill, because if they do, we're going to be in big trouble. 0.94

00:58:27.000 We'll be back after the break.

00:58:28.000 We're scheduled to bring on Daniel Abramson of FalseFlagNews.com, and we're going to solve the Middle East crisis.

00:58:35.000 We'll see you next time.

00:58:46.000 Mainstream media.

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00:58:47.000 Government cover-ups.

00:58:50.000 You want answers?

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00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 All right, this is Bob Basie once again.

00:59:27.000 As soon as he's ready, we'll bring him on.

00:59:29.000 I'm Stacy, the host of the Simple Truth Cable Access TV talk show here in Austin, Texas.

00:59:35.000 We're going to have Mr. Abramson hooked up here in a little bit, but as soon as he's ready, we'll bring him on.

00:59:42.000 But let me just continue a little bit more with my attack on this North American Union and the document Building the North American Community CFR Task Force's Blueprint for How to Destroy the United States of America and Be Happy About It the Whole Time.

01:00:00.000 Another thing they say is we need to increase information and intelligence gathering at the local and national levels in both law enforcement and military organizations.

01:00:10.000 Law enforcement cooperation should be expanded.

01:00:13.000 from its current levels through the exchange of liaison teams and better use of automated systems for tracking, storing, and disseminating timely intelligence.

01:00:22.000 This should be done immediately.

01:00:25.000 Okay, there you have it ladies and gentlemen.

01:00:26.000 The American military and the Mexican military need to share information.

01:00:32.000 Oh boy.

01:00:33.000 Mexican military.

01:00:35.000 That's great. 1.00

01:00:35.000 They're just as crooked as the rest of everything in Mexico. 1.00

01:00:38.000 You know? 0.98

01:00:39.000 We talked about it yesterday.

01:00:41.000 You know, you got these few rich families in Mexico.

01:00:44.000 The drug cartels run everything.

01:00:48.000 Dr. Torcy was talking about the fact that the drug companies are buying the Mexican trucking companies right now.

01:00:54.000 Come on, ladies and gentlemen.

01:00:56.000 Wake up to the insanity.

01:00:59.000 Okay, what we should do now.

01:01:01.000 We need to intensify Mexican efforts to accelerate its economic development.

01:01:07.000 We need to increase the federal tax base.

01:01:09.000 You see, one of the things that the globalists love to do to encourage their pie-in-the-sky schemes of global government is to lend some poor, dumb country a bunch of money, and then once they've done it, make sure they can't pay it back, and then they got the squeeze on. 0.96

01:01:32.000 That's what they do, and in order to put the squeeze on, then the local crooks that run the country have to increase the tax on their poor, dumbed-down slave population. 0.94

01:01:42.000 And that's what the CFR is suggesting here.

01:01:45.000 They say, explore with the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank ways to use multilateral development funds to most effectively address the North American development challenge.

01:01:56.000 English translation, tax Americans to pay for the Mexican portion of the Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:02:01.000 There's a right here.

01:02:02.000 Establish a North American investment fund for infrastructure and human capital.

01:02:06.000 The United States and Canada should establish a North American investment fund to encourage private capital flow into Mexico.

01:02:14.000 Yeah, private capital flow from your wallet Use the American taxpayer into the wallets of the contractors who are going to build the Mexican portion of the Trans-Texas Corridor so the Communist Chinese goods can get up here much, much more efficiently without having to deal with any disgusting American workers like Longshoremen or Teamsters or American Truckers. 0.93

01:02:37.000 We can't have that because, you know, Walmart needs to get those goods in here cheap. 0.97

01:02:43.000 And they talk about counterpart funding to higher tax revenues for Mexico.

01:02:47.000 Again, tax the slaves.

01:02:49.000 The fund design should consider such issues as incentives and debt absorption.

01:02:55.000 And they say we need to enhance the capacity of the North American Development Bank.

01:02:58.000 And that is what Senator John Cornyn is doing in the U.S.

01:03:03.000 Senate.

01:03:04.000 He introduced that bill earlier this year, 3622, to do exactly that.

01:03:09.000 And, you know, he was kind of not careful about it because the wording he used in the bill is exactly, precisely the wording in this document from the Council on Foreign Relations.

01:03:20.000 So he got caught with his pants down and he withdrew the bill temporarily.

01:03:24.000 But don't worry.

01:03:25.000 It'll be back!

01:03:27.000 Because, you know, we've got to build the North American superhighway.

01:03:32.000 You know, because the Communist Chinese are demanding it. 0.86

01:03:36.000 Okay, well, we're going to take another break, and when we get back, hopefully we will have Daniel Abramson from FoxFlagNews.com.

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01:07:06.000 Alright, we're back on the Alex Jones Show with Bob Basie substituting for Alex Jones.

01:07:11.000 And before I bring on our guest, Daniel Abramson of falseflagnews.com, I'm kind of on a roll here right now in this North American Union.

01:07:19.000 And I would be remiss if I didn't cover this.

01:07:22.000 Kevin Smith just handed me a new report by Dr. Jerome Corsi, the man we had on our show yesterday, writer for Human Events Magazine and WorldNetData.com.

01:07:32.000 If you go to WorldNetData.com, you can click on this article just posted under the topic of New World Disorder.

01:07:39.000 North American Union leader says merger Just a crisis away.

01:07:44.000 Leading intellectual force behind the effort toward the EU-style unity looks at the future. 0.89

01:07:51.000 And this is, of course, about my friend, the traitor, Professor Robert Pastor, the Marxist, Communist, CFR trash, who is the principal architect of building a North American community.

01:08:06.000 The paper that I have been reading from the last several minutes I'm not going to go over this whole thing right now, perhaps later on in the show, but he actually in this paper, let me just read a little bit of it. 0.64

01:08:20.000 Robert Pastor, a leading intellectual force in the move to create an EU-style North American community, told WorldNetDaily he believes a new 9-1-1 crisis could be the catalyst to merge the U.S., Mexico, and Canada.

01:08:35.000 I want to read that again.

01:08:40.000 I'm starting to grasp this.

01:08:42.000 Robert Pastor, a leading intellectual force in the move to create an EU-style North American community, per WorldNet Daily, he believes a new 9-1-1 crisis could be the catalyst to merge the U.S., Mexico, and Canada.

01:08:59.000 Pastor, a university, a professor at American University says, in such a case, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP, launched in 2005 by the heads of the three countries at a summit in Waco, Texas, could be developed into a continental union, complete with a new currency, the Amaro, that would replace the U.S.

01:09:21.000 dollar, just as the Euro has replaced the national currencies of Europe.

01:09:28.000 In May 2005, Pastor was co-chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force that produced a report entitled, Toward a North American Community.

01:09:37.000 Which he claimed is the blueprint behind the SPP declared by President Bush, Mexico's then-President Vicente Fox, and Canada's then-Prime Minister Paul Martin.

01:09:49.000 Ladies and gentlemen, you need to go to worldnetdaily.com and read this whole thing.

01:09:53.000 I'll probably get back to it later on in the show.

01:09:57.000 Gee, what do you know?

01:09:59.000 Everything I've been saying is being confirmed by American University, Robert Pastor, A professor here, Robert Pastor, who is a traitor to his country, a sellout, a Benedict Arnold, a Judas, a too-brute, a Brutus, backstabbing the United States of America. 0.99

01:10:25.000 Thank you, American University professor Robert Pastor, for confirming In an interview with Jerome Corsi for WorldNetDaily, everything we said about you, sir, you are pathetic. 0.96

01:10:38.000 Okay, now we're going to change subjects. 0.52

01:10:40.000 We have with us Daniel Abramson from FalseFlagNews.com.

01:10:46.000 Daniel, are you there?

01:10:48.000 I am here.

01:10:48.000 Thank you so much for having me.

01:10:49.000 Well, gee, you know, I don't even really know much about you.

01:10:53.000 I got handed this thing, and I understand that you're a young kid, aren't you?

01:10:59.000 You're like 23 years old?

01:11:01.000 Yeah, 23.

01:11:02.000 That's dead on accurate.

01:11:04.000 Who are you?

01:11:05.000 What do you do?

01:11:06.000 And let's get into this website of yours, False Flag News.

01:11:10.000 The microphone is yours.

01:11:12.000 Have at it.

01:11:13.000 Absolutely, and thank you.

01:11:15.000 It's a good question to start with.

01:11:16.000 Yeah, I'm 23 years old.

01:11:17.000 I'm a college student.

01:11:19.000 I'm a journalist.

01:11:20.000 I'm a researcher.

01:11:21.000 I'm a musician, and I also host a daily radio show from 9 to 10 Eastern Time.

01:11:27.000 That's 8 to 9 Central on RBN.

01:11:29.000 That's Monday to Friday, so I do the radio gig every night.

01:11:32.000 In the meantime, I monitor the war games and the terror drills.

01:11:35.000 That's become a specialty of mine because When we look into the origins of false flag terror, whether it's in the 9-11 attacks or the attacks of 7-7 in London, what we find is a propensity of drills which clearly mimic the attacks that happened.

01:11:49.000 So in the case of 9-11, you had the military, the NRO, and the CIA running drills where hijacked jets were flying around the country, some of which even crashed into government buildings.

01:11:59.000 And the drill then is flipped live and becomes the terror attack using government taxis, often set up as Arabs. 1.00

01:12:06.000 And then in the case of the 7-7 bombings in London, you had drills being run by Peter Power, Advisor Consultants, and Scotland Yard, which very closely mimic the exact same buses, trains, and spots where the bombings went off.

01:12:19.000 So what we see is that drills and war games and movements around the world can be a good prognosticator both of upcoming false-flat terror attacks and also potential wars.

01:12:29.000 You know, one of the things I've been covering recently on my program It's movements in the Persian Gulf.

01:12:33.000 We now have the Eisenhower Strike Group, which is moving into the Persian Gulf for a potential strike on Iran.

01:12:39.000 So, by monitoring these different movements, the military movements, you can kind of see the news before it happens.

01:12:44.000 So, that's my specialty.

01:12:46.000 And, you know, in the meantime, I do a lot of music.

01:12:48.000 I'm putting out a CD with a lot of songs about the New World Order.

01:12:51.000 It's hip-hop music.

01:12:52.000 So, there's a lot more for younger people so that, you know, a lot of people don't have the time to Read a 450 page book or to sit down and even listen to an hour long radio show because sometimes that's just not the medium they're used to.

01:13:04.000 It's become a very, you know, the society's become dumbed down to the point where people's attention spans are very short.

01:13:10.000 So sometimes in order to educate people, you have to do it in the shortest amount of time possible.

01:13:14.000 So I'll make songs that are three and a half, four minutes long and try to educate people who may not otherwise want to listen to a lot of this important material.

01:13:22.000 Okay, so you're talking about, your website is devoted to letting people know, watching, kind of reading the tea leaves, hey look, they're doing some drills over here, and you know what happens with drills, they tend to morph into reality, that's what you're doing.

01:13:38.000 Well listen, you know, the fact is that they might run 10,000 drills a year, but if one of them goes live, we've got a big problem.

01:13:44.000 Well that's the question, if I was, let me play devil's advocate here for just a minute, Okay, we know that on the morning of September 11th, the United States government was running several drills having to do with hijack aircraft, right?

01:14:00.000 Absolutely.

01:14:01.000 I mean, that's not even debatable.

01:14:03.000 That is a fact.

01:14:04.000 In fact, Richard Myers and Ralph Eberhard in front of the 9-11 Commission admitted as much.

01:14:08.000 Okay, if I was them and I wanted to cover my tracks and say, well, don't you know, look, you people say we were running a drill on involving hijacked aircraft on the morning of September 11th.

01:14:19.000 I said, oh, we run those drills every day.

01:14:22.000 We run, we do that every day.

01:14:23.000 Do you have any kind of sense of correlation there that would diffuse that argument?

01:14:30.000 That, oh, you can't, you're just leaping to conclusions.

01:14:32.000 We're always running drills involving hijacked aircraft.

01:14:35.000 Well, in fact, you know, what's interesting about 9-11 is that it was the highest concentration of drills and war games ever in one day.

01:14:42.000 So it wasn't just that they were running one hijacking drill, they were running so many that the air forces were depleted.

01:14:48.000 So normally NORAD would have intercepted those planes.

01:14:50.000 And what you had was as many as 27 different jets, which were supposedly hijacked. 0.98

01:14:56.000 So when we look at the NORAD page, which came out in Vanity Fair, the flight controllers are saying, I think it's a damn input. 0.96

01:15:03.000 And they thought it was part of the drill. 0.88

01:15:05.000 What this did was it delayed the response.

01:15:07.000 Now, you could argue that perhaps Al-Qaeda or the hijackers knew that these drills were being run that day.

01:15:13.000 You could argue it was just a case of bad luck.

01:15:15.000 But then you look into the war games that were being run that day, because there are two things that were happening on 9-11.

01:15:21.000 On the one hand, we had the hijacking drills.

01:15:23.000 One of them being run simulated a plane crashing into the National Reconnaissance Office headquarters.

01:15:28.000 That's a very shadowy group.

01:15:29.000 The NRO has a budget bigger than the NSA.

01:15:33.000 Bigger than the CIA, and very few people talk about the NRO.

01:15:36.000 They're running a drill, where a hijack jet crashes into their building.

01:15:39.000 So we could say, that's very similar, right?

01:15:41.000 But then we look into the war games that were being run that day, simulating an all-out nuclear war with Russia. 0.61

01:15:47.000 And in fact, they were simulating a nuclear strike on the Russians, and then a counter-strike back at the United States.

01:15:53.000 And General Ivashov, who is the head of the Russian Army, during September 11th, said at a recent conference that Not only did the Russian military know that 9-11 was an inside job, he said, furthermore, the war games that they were running were so realistic, they thought it was going to be World War III that day.

01:16:10.000 They thought it was going to be nuclear Armageddon.

01:16:13.000 What the drills were, were a backdoor, that if the attacks go live and then things become escalated, they then have the war games in place.

01:16:20.000 So, it was a high concentration of drills.

01:16:22.000 Furthermore, when you look at the 7-7 attacks, you have to ask yourself, What are the chances that Scotland Yard and Visor Consultants would be running the exact same drill, with the exact same buses, the exact same trains, being bombed at nearly the exact same time?

01:16:36.000 The kind of chances of that happening are just...

01:16:39.000 Too great.

01:16:39.000 And, you know, we have to look at the reason these drills are used.

01:16:41.000 It's to confuse good people within the intelligence agency.

01:16:44.000 Although a lot of people were looking into Mohammed Atta at the flight schools, and they're told, back off.

01:16:49.000 He's part of the Able Danger Program. 0.83

01:16:51.000 Then the drills that morning.

01:16:52.000 Not everybody in the FAA is a traitor to our country.

01:16:55.000 Not every person in NORAD is a traitor.

01:16:57.000 So they're told, well we've got as many as 27 hijacked jets and they're being flown all around the country to a lot of dead ends.

01:17:03.000 I think that the drills are used to confuse the good patriotic people within the intel agencies and the government bureaucracy.

01:17:09.000 Okay, so we're having a multi-level attack, false flag terror attack, at a station in the United States of America on September 11th, and they've got multiple redundancies built into the plan.

01:17:22.000 Yeah, and this is a way for them, look, if I were going to engineer a false flag attack, this is exactly how I would do it.

01:17:22.000 Absolutely.

01:17:28.000 Because you know that if you have a few coup plotters at the top, you know, to carry out a successful false flag attack, what you need is moles within different intelligence agencies. 0.88

01:17:38.000 People in the FBI, who when their lower people were saying, you know, out of the Phoenix Memo, or out of Minneapolis, were saying, we think that there's Arabs at flight schools and they may hijack a jet and crash it into the World Trade Center.

01:17:49.000 In fact, that was remarked by Kenneth Williams in the Phoenix Memo.

01:17:52.000 He says, we think they may crash a plane into the World Trade Center.

01:17:55.000 I think he also said that 70 times, I believe, except when I read he was screaming it.

01:18:02.000 He didn't just issue a memo.

01:18:05.000 Yeah, well, what I'm saying is that who in the FBI, there were higher-ups, people like Dale Watson, and people like, um, you know, who's the other fellow, Dave Frasca.

01:18:13.000 Dave Frasca and Dale Watson were in positions to have this information, but it was never passed along.

01:18:18.000 You know, so you have certain people within the intelligence agencies who just, let me say, for legal purposes, fail to do their job properly.

01:18:25.000 But then within the FAA at NORAD, I mean, if you look at the NORAD tapes, a lot of these people were begging.

01:18:29.000 They're saying, do we have the shoot-down order?

01:18:31.000 What the hell is going on here?

01:18:33.000 And they're just being sent all over the country.

01:18:35.000 Now, the thing about those NORAD tapes is, all we saw was the ground-level people.

01:18:39.000 We never saw the communications between Larry Arnold and Colonel Barr and Ralph Eberhardt, the higher-ups in NORAD.

01:18:45.000 Well, hang on, we'll be right back after the break.

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01:23:07.000 This is December 15, 2006.

01:23:09.000 Okay, we're back on the Alex Jones Show this December the 15th, 2006.

01:23:24.000 This is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones, and we have as our guest Daniel Abramson of falseflagnews.com, who specializes in looking at what our little government agencies are doing as a potential indicator as who specializes in looking at what our little government agencies are doing as a potential indicator as Because for some strange reason, when bad things happen, the government seems to be running drills having to do with the exact same thing.

01:23:52.000 What an amazing coincidence.

01:23:54.000 Daniel, before the break we were talking about these NORAD tapes and I want you to go ahead and continue on with that line of discussion.

01:24:02.000 Tell us what these NORAD tapes were and what they reveal.

01:24:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:24:08.000 Michael Brunner wrote for Vanity Fair Magazine.

01:24:11.000 He was given the exclusive access to the NORAD tapes.

01:24:16.000 And they're quite telling.

01:24:17.000 For a long time, 9-11 alternative researchers like myself have pointed to the drills and suggested that not only were these used to confuse the good people within NORAD and the FAA, but in fact, one of these drills may have been the one that went live.

01:24:31.000 I just want to read to you a drill.

01:24:33.000 This was not run on September 11th, but was actually created by NORAD before September 11th.

01:24:38.000 This is from CNN.com.

01:24:39.000 It was called Amalgam Virgo.

01:24:41.000 It said, two planes, a Delta 757 with actual Delta pilots in the flight deck, will be hijacked by FBI agents as it makes its trip from Salt Lake City to Honolulu.

01:24:52.000 The plane will be diverted in midair.

01:24:54.000 And it talks about how they had FBI agents posing as hijackers in drills before September 11th.

01:25:00.000 It's very possible that during that day, the actual attacks were bootlegged through a drill, sort of a lost terror drill, which was not reported.

01:25:07.000 We don't know a lot about some of these drills that were going on that day.

01:25:10.000 For example, Apollo Guardian.

01:25:12.000 Very little is known about what was going on during Apollo Guardian.

01:25:16.000 And again, you know, one of the things people often say about a conspiracy theory is it's difficult and it doesn't meet the merits of fact because There would be too many people involved.

01:25:26.000 You know, if there were a real conspiracy, wouldn't somebody have come out and said something?

01:25:30.000 But in fact, what you do is you use the drill as a means to confuse people.

01:25:34.000 For example...

01:25:35.000 You know, like I said, the people in the FAA and NORAD would not have seen that as a conspiracy.

01:25:39.000 They would have said, what an unfortunate thing it was that we were running drills that day.

01:25:42.000 We were so confused.

01:25:43.000 The shoot-down orders didn't come through.

01:25:45.000 It was just a disaster and poor planning.

01:25:47.000 Furthermore, when you look into a lot of the backgrounds of the alleged hijackers, Mohammed Atta had strange connections to the Able Danger program being run by SOCOM.

01:25:57.000 The intelligence group of the military.

01:25:59.000 Furthermore, at least five of the alleged hijackers were training at U.S.

01:26:04.000 military bases.

01:26:04.000 For example, the Pensacola Air Base in Florida.

01:26:08.000 Muhammad Atta trained at the Maxwell Air Base in Alabama.

01:26:11.000 You had Muhammad Atta at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California.

01:26:16.000 And this was all testified.

01:26:17.000 People say, where are the whistleblowers?

01:26:19.000 Colonel Steve Butler A 25-year Air Force veteran said, I trained Muhammad Ata as a spy at the Monterey base.

01:26:26.000 So I think when a lot of the FBI agents who were, for better or worse, fairly patriotic people looking into these flight schools, looking into the identities of some of these people, were going to their higher-ups and saying, look, we've got a problem here.

01:26:38.000 We think there may be a terror attack up lower Manhattan.

01:26:40.000 They were pulled back off.

01:26:42.000 This is part of a top secret program.

01:26:44.000 It's part of a drill.

01:26:45.000 Just don't say anything.

01:26:47.000 We'll take care of it.

01:26:47.000 And this is the way that good people are neutralized.

01:26:50.000 I was reading the mainstream media and they said that Mohammed Atta was a crazed fanatical Muslim. 0.75

01:26:56.000 I mean, how do you get a crazed fanatical Muslim to work for the United States government? 1.00

01:27:04.000 Yeah, and look, you know, this goes to the, you know, mythology of Al Qaeda. 0.66

01:27:08.000 When you begin looking into it, and the amazing thing is, is this is all very mainstream.

01:27:13.000 You look at Osama Bin Laden, and it's reported in Le Figaro and The Guardian that two months before 9-11, Osama Bin Laden meets with the top two CIA agents.

01:27:22.000 In the Middle East, at the American Hospital in Dubai, while he's receiving dialysis.

01:27:26.000 This has landed on the FBI's 10 most wanted.

01:27:28.000 You know, Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's right-hand man, and really, supposedly the brains behind al-Qaeda, has been protected by the British government and MI6 for 25 years plus.

01:27:38.000 You look into somebody like Ali Mohammed, who worked at Fort Bragg.

01:27:42.000 He was in special operations with the Delta Forces.

01:27:45.000 This is supposed to be Osama Bin Laden's top tactician, and he was working at Fort Bragg. 0.88

01:27:50.000 I mean, every time we look into the funding of these groups, you know, the Mujahideen being funded by the CIA with billions of dollars, when we look into who was running the drills that day, where these supposed hijackers came from, and furthermore, you know, somebody like Mohammed Atta was at Huffman Aviation, trick-taking flights there.

01:28:06.000 Huffman Aviation was busted with 43 pounds of heroin on one of their flights.

01:28:11.000 And this flight school, which was, you know, front-owned by Wally Hilliard, had been tied up in the drug-dealing game.

01:28:17.000 So, you know, you get into this network of Iran-Contra drug-running and weapons-smuggling and the same people involved here, and it shows that this terrorism does not emerge out of a cave, doesn't come out of Afghanistan or Waziristan or whatever they try to claim, that this is a functionary of the intelligence agency, created in-house, And then they use their drills and they use their programs to confuse the good people within the business.

01:28:40.000 Alright Daniel, we'll be right back after the break.

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01:32:06.000 This is Bob Dacey, substitute for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show.

01:32:10.000 We've been talking with Daniel Abramson of FalseFlagNews.com.

01:32:14.000 You want to be sure and go there, FalseFlagNews.com.

01:32:17.000 Before I get back with Daniel, I want to read an article that just came out yesterday from Paul Joseph Watson on PrisonPlanet.com, which punctuates What he's saying, actually, he said a minute ago that all the people that doubt September 11th was an inside job say, well, where are the whistleblowers?

01:32:36.000 How come people aren't coming out?

01:32:38.000 And what you don't know is they are coming out.

01:32:40.000 It's just the mainstream media won't touch them.

01:32:43.000 There's lots of them, and a new one has come out.

01:32:45.000 Let me just read from Paul Joseph Watson's article.

01:32:49.000 Boston Air Traffic Controller says 9-1-1 an inside job.

01:32:53.000 A former Boston Center air traffic controller has gone public in his assertion that 9-1-1 was an inside job and that Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon tracked three of the four flights from the point of their hijacking to hitting their targets.

01:33:06.000 In an astounding telephone interview, Robin Horden claims air traffic controllers have been ignored or silenced to protect the true perpetrators of 9-1-1.

01:33:18.000 Later on it says he quickly concluded on the very afternoon of the attacks that they could represent nothing other than an inside job.

01:33:26.000 On September 11th, I'm one of the few people who really, within quite a few hours of the whole event taking place, just simply knew that it was an inside job.

01:33:35.000 And it wasn't because of the visuals, the collapses, whatever.

01:33:38.000 I knew that it was an inside job, I think, within about 4 or 5 o'clock that afternoon.

01:33:42.000 And the reason I knew is because when those aircraft did collide, and when we got the news and information on where the aircraft were and where they went, If they knew where the aircraft were and were talking to them at a certain time, then the normal protocol is to get fighter jet aircraft up to assist." Gordon said that from personal experience he knew the system was always ready to immediately scramble intercepting fighters and that any reversal of that procedure would have been unprecedented and abnormal.

01:34:10.000 He had also personally handled both real hijacking situations in his airspace and other emergency procedures.

01:34:17.000 Gordon said the only way the airliners could have avoided being intercepted was if a massive electrical and communications failure had occurred, which it didn't on that day.

01:34:27.000 Adding there was, quote, no way in, quote, hijacked airliners could have reached their targets otherwise.

01:34:34.000 So, Daniel, there you have another another one of these non-existent whistleblowers coming out.

01:34:42.000 Tell us, again, go back to these NORAD tapes.

01:34:46.000 What happened to these tapes?

01:34:47.000 Can you tell us that?

01:34:49.000 Well, you know, they were hidden from the public for a long time, and obviously what we're told is that Vanity Fair was given the complete tapes.

01:34:56.000 Who knows?

01:34:57.000 These could have been like Nixon's tapes, and there's gaps in the middle.

01:35:00.000 Uh, but what you see is, even at the lower level, the confusion.

01:35:04.000 As Richard Clark said in front of the 9-11 Commission, they thought as many as 27 different jets were hijacked that morning.

01:35:10.000 And it led to great confusion.

01:35:12.000 But eventually, they're able to find a lot of these things.

01:35:14.000 And what they then begin asking for is the shoot-down order.

01:35:18.000 Do we have the order to shoot these things down?

01:35:20.000 And the order just never comes through.

01:35:23.000 And then we need to begin looking into the history that a few months before 9-11, these shoot-down powers, which were normally given to some of the generals in NORAD, were then taken by Don Rumsfeld.

01:35:33.000 And that was a totally new precedent for this to happen.

01:35:37.000 And so, Rumsfeld is absent from the National Military Command Center, and absent until about 10-30, when all these attacks are going on.

01:35:44.000 His whereabouts are fairly unknown.

01:35:45.000 He's not in the conference call.

01:35:47.000 So when you look at the standout, you have to think, how high did this chain of command go?

01:35:51.000 And so we're only seeing the ground level where they said, we think it's a BAM input.

01:35:55.000 They thought that these hijack jets might have been inputs, part of the drill.

01:35:59.000 They were saying, is the drill going live yet?

01:36:01.000 Is this part of the exercise or not?

01:36:03.000 This is what a lot of the flight controllers in Boston were asking.

01:36:06.000 And then what I want to know is what was on the tapes between Larry Arnold, Colonel Marr, Ralph Eberhardt, and a lot of the people who were operating out of Kindle Air Force Base in Florida.

01:36:16.000 I want to hear the tapes between Don Rumsfeld and the NORAD people.

01:36:20.000 And furthermore, you know, I was talking about the drills that day, but also I talked about the war games.

01:36:25.000 A lot of these nuclear war games were being run out of STRATCOM.

01:36:29.000 And this is a window into the coup faction that is actually controlling the United States right now.

01:36:33.000 They give us this shadow game with these puppets in the front, Republican, Democrat, and play these phony paradigms off one another.

01:36:40.000 And the agenda always stays global tyranny.

01:36:43.000 Of course, we have the European oligarchs. 0.79

01:36:45.000 And the Masters of the Federal Reserve, but within this country, we also have the Stratcom faction.

01:36:50.000 And those are the people at Beaufort Air Force Base and Barksdale Air Force Base that were running the nuclear war games that day.

01:36:57.000 Well, it gets interesting because Bush, after he's flown out during reading My Pet Goat, the Secret Service stands down, lets him read for 25 minutes while the country is under attack.

01:37:07.000 And this is a man who is not in control.

01:37:10.000 He's taken up his Air Force One plane is not given any cover.

01:37:13.000 They don't give him any planes to protect the plane.

01:37:17.000 They then send him where?

01:37:18.000 To Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.

01:37:21.000 Where does he then go next?

01:37:23.000 So he goes to the two STRATCOM bases to meet with a lot of people that were running the drills that day.

01:37:28.000 Furthermore, at the STRATCOM base in Oak Foot, Warren Buffett is there meeting with 100 of the top CEOs, many of whom worked in the World Trade Center.

01:37:36.000 And this is not conspiracy, this is very verifiable stuff, so it's amazing to watch Bush, the tinfoil puppet who they put out there, being flown around to a lot of the places where these drills were run.

01:37:46.000 I think that is a window into the cool faction that was running the drills and really running the attacks that day.

01:37:51.000 I know that on your website, I want to read something here and I'd like to get a comment on it.

01:37:57.000 I am interested primarily in drill and war games research and exposing the agencies, corporations, think tanks and media conglomerates, financiers and social engineers who are deliberately dumbing down the world population.

01:38:09.000 Unfortunately, the growing American police state means I must offer this disclaimer.

01:38:16.000 Some people involved in the 9-1-1 truth movement in the past have been accidented or suicided.

01:38:23.000 Who in the 9-1-1 Truth Movement has been accidented or suicided?

01:38:27.000 Can you elaborate on that comment?

01:38:29.000 You know, there was a lot of talk that Hunter Thompson, for example, was writing stories about the collapse of towers before he was, you know, before they said it was a suicide.

01:38:29.000 Sure.

01:38:39.000 And there was a lot of strange stories.

01:38:41.000 People could never really figure out how those gunshots came in.

01:38:43.000 Additionally, Gary Webb was rumored to be working on a bunch of 9-11 stories.

01:38:47.000 He suffered two gunshots to the head, and that was called a suicide as well.

01:38:52.000 I mean, we don't even know how many whistleblowers may have tried to come out.

01:38:54.000 I know that many people have been threatened.

01:38:56.000 You know, for example, Alex Jones said that he tried to call Colonel Steve Butler, the man who I mentioned before, who said, I train Muhammad Atta.

01:39:04.000 And he said, Colonel Butler's wife was on the other end going, you get off that phone right now! 0.60

01:39:08.000 So I put it out there as a warning.

01:39:11.000 There was a guy named Danny Casarello back in the day who began to investigate the Octopus, as he called it.

01:39:17.000 The different intelligence agencies which were really running the finance system and certainly the Iran-Contra drug and weapons smuggling.

01:39:24.000 And he turned up dead in a bathtub.

01:39:26.000 So I don't mean to say that I'm the one that they really want to go after.

01:39:30.000 Certainly, intelligence agencies have a way bigger threat than Dan Abramson.

01:39:35.000 I'm sure they are far more interested in other people, but I put that out there because I don't put myself in dangerous situations, and I think a lot of people don't realize the risk people take in going after the truth.

01:39:47.000 The intelligence agencies have a vested interest in preventing this information from getting out.

01:39:51.000 We know that they have blue lists.

01:39:53.000 We know they have red lists.

01:39:54.000 We know they're building at least $385 million worth of haliburton camps, that they're setting up detention camps around this country.

01:40:02.000 They passed the Military Commissions Act saying it is now legal to declare Americans enemy combatants, to torture, detain, and even murder them in military tribunals.

01:40:11.000 So I just put that out there.

01:40:12.000 As a disclaimer, I live a very safe life and I hope to continue to do so.

01:40:17.000 Well, speaking of people that kind of had an untimely demise, and this has to do with the potential of what you were talking about, the London bombings, the 7-7 bombings in London.

01:40:29.000 Do you have any authoritative information about what happened to that Brazilian electrician?

01:40:36.000 Do you have any knowledge of that incident?

01:40:40.000 No, you know, there was a lot of speculation, I know, on Prison Planet that he may have seen something he wasn't supposed to.

01:40:46.000 Because the manner in which he was gunned down, they claimed that he was armed, and then it turned out he wasn't.

01:40:50.000 And then they fired so many shots into him that it definitely, there were no warning shots.

01:40:54.000 He was hit in the back.

01:40:55.000 Certainly he knew something he wasn't supposed to, but as far as the details of it, I think it would just be speculation on my part.

01:41:03.000 If I may, on just that topic of 7-7, I want to read this quote from Peter Power of Visor Consultants, just to flesh this out for people.

01:41:11.000 Now tell people who Visor Consultants is again.

01:41:14.000 Absolutely.

01:41:15.000 Visor Consultants is a crisis management advice company.

01:41:19.000 It's better known as a PR firm, so they do crisis control, disaster situations, and public relations.

01:41:25.000 They were working with Scotland Yard on the morning of 7-7, and this is a quote from Peter Power, head of Visor Consultants.

01:41:32.000 as he spoke to the BBC.

01:41:34.000 He says, "At half past nine this morning, "we were actually running an exercise for a company "of over a thousand people in London "based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely "at the railway stations where it happened this morning.

01:41:46.000 "So I still have hairs on the back of my neck "standing upright now." So there you have it, the head advisor consultant saying we were running the drill that exactly mimicked the attacks that day.

01:41:56.000 Now, you know, you can either be a coincidentalist, or you can say something else is going on here.

01:42:00.000 You begin to look at the funding of these organizations, who runs them, and we begin to see that false flag terrorism is a vehicle to scare the population into giving up their rights.

01:42:09.000 It's also a way to prop up their economic house of cards, which is collapsing right now, as the dollar collapses, and as you mentioned, as they try to push us into the Amaro and the North American Union.

01:42:19.000 Yeah, so it's all related.

01:42:21.000 If anybody doubts what has happened in regard to September 11th, go to one of these financial websites and find out, track the price of Halliburton stock on September 11th versus what happened to it in intervening years.

01:42:40.000 Coincidence theorists, they are interesting people.

01:42:42.000 They always talk about conspiracy theorists and how you're all nuts and you come up with a couple of weird things and you spin this conspiracy theory with no facts to back it up.

01:42:53.000 These coincidence theorists, they take the cake.

01:42:55.000 I mean, they really do.

01:42:57.000 They really do.

01:42:58.000 Another false flag event, Daniel, I don't know if you know about this.

01:43:01.000 We were going to have another guest on with you today, but he couldn't make it.

01:43:05.000 This is Nafis Mosaddegh Ahmed.

01:43:09.000 I was wondering, there's another false flag terrorism event that happened a few months ago in Iraq regarding the British SAS troops.

01:43:20.000 Are you familiar with that incident?

01:43:22.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:43:23.000 These British SAS were attempting to bomb a mosque in Iraq and they were dressed up as Arabs with traditional head garb. 0.99

01:43:31.000 They were arrested, put in prison, and then broken out of prison.

01:43:34.000 The prison walls were destroyed and they were broken out So, here again you have the obvious evidence that intelligence agencies have actually been stroking the violence.

01:43:43.000 They actually want Sunni and Shia and Kurdish people at each other's throats. 1.00

01:43:48.000 You would say, well why would they want a civil war?

01:43:50.000 How would this be conducive to Iraqi freedom or Iraqi democracy?

01:43:54.000 Well, we need to look a little bit back into the past and understand that going back to the Project for the New American Century, and going even further back to the Zionist document, which was the policy for a clean break outlined for Benjamin Netanyahu in 1997 in the Likud government, they were talking about splitting Iraq into three different parts, and taking control of the oil fields.

01:44:15.000 And so splitting Iraq and doing a federal government with three different states has always been part of the plan.

01:44:21.000 It is what they call their new map for the Middle East.

01:44:23.000 And one of the ways to do this is to actually get a sectarian war going.

01:44:27.000 And I think this is evidence of it.

01:44:28.000 So what you're saying, and I would have to, I think I would have to agree with you, what you're saying, if I may put words in your mouth, is that the situation that's going on in Iraq right now is what they want. 0.56

01:44:42.000 Yeah, and I think when you look into a program called P-2-O-G, the Proactive Preemptive Operations Group, I really encourage people to look into P-2-O-G. 0.98

01:44:53.000 This is a secret program designed by Rumsfeld to quote, stimulate reactions amongst terrorist groups, and they're actually trying to get Terrorist groups to strike the United States, to strike countries in the Middle East, and actually putting billions of dollars into this to try to get real organic terrorist groups to either hit this country or create sectarian violence in Iraq.

01:45:14.000 There's been some out there who say that all of the violence is coming from the Americans.

01:45:19.000 Now, look, I'm not enough of an expert to say that, and I certainly don't think so.

01:45:22.000 I think when you see, you know, 150 people murdered in one day, I think the U.S.

01:45:26.000 got the ball rolling, and now they're just going to watch, you know, it's like a puppet master.

01:45:30.000 Well, I think that when you, you know, the old thing, when you take a couple of cats and you throw them in a sack and shake them, they're going to fight.

01:45:38.000 You know, but the question is, who threw the cats in the sack?

01:45:41.000 And now the question is, how are they going to expand the war?

01:45:43.000 And that's where you see the differences between the neocons and Baker-Hamilton are very different.

01:45:48.000 Baker-Hamilton is saying, we'll have a larger regional Middle East war, we'll carve up Iraq into three parts, we'll send in 50,000 more troops, we may even get Syria and Iran involved in a regional war, we'll try negotiations.

01:46:00.000 So the amazing thing is that the ruling class oligarchs differ very little on how this Middle East map will be reshaped.

01:46:06.000 It is part of a genocidal agenda.

01:46:08.000 It is very much coming out of Israel.

01:46:10.000 When you look into the Iraq War, much of this came out of the Office of Special Plans.

01:46:14.000 It came through a conduit of Larry Franklin and the AIPAC lobby, which were passing this information from Ariel Sharon's war cabinet into the vice president's office.

01:46:23.000 And yet again, we're watching history repeat itself right now.

01:46:27.000 Another one you left out, another one of these well-known pieces of literature that came out in 1997 was Zbigniew Brzezinski's book, The Grand Chessboard.

01:46:39.000 Absolutely.

01:46:40.000 In The Grand Chessboard, Zbig, who was a member of the Trilateral Commission, one of David Rockefeller's proteges, is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, my favorite organization, In his book, The Grand Chess Board, this was published in 1997, he just flat out said, you know, what you've got to do here is you've got to keep the barbarians from coming together. 0.86

01:47:01.000 I mean, he said, you know, we've got to keep these people in the Middle East where all the oil is from unifying, and we want them fighting amongst themselves. 0.99

01:47:09.000 I mean, he actually said that in the book.

01:47:11.000 So, it's amazing.

01:47:12.000 Yeah, and I think this has always been part of their plan, and I think it will continue.

01:47:16.000 You know, what I wanted to cover in this program, hopefully, is to talk about the different plans for war with Iran right now.

01:47:22.000 And a lot of people look at Iraq and the failed occupation, that by Johns Hopkins estimates, at least 650,000 Iraqi civilians have been mass murdered since the shock and awe genocide began.

01:47:34.000 And that does not count the depleted uranium, which is being sprayed around that country, which is hurting our troops.

01:47:40.000 They bring those particles home to their families.

01:47:41.000 And furthermore, turning Iraq into Hiroshima times 100. 0.88

01:47:45.000 I mean, that stuff will not be gone for billions of years.

01:47:48.000 It produces cancer and leukemia and birth defects.

01:47:51.000 That country will be a nuclear wasteland for the rest of our lifetimes, going hundreds of generations.

01:47:57.000 And then you look furthermore at the sanctions regime under Bill Clinton.

01:48:00.000 Because this is not a left-right thing.

01:48:02.000 At least one million Iraqis killed under the regime of Bill Clinton.

01:48:05.000 And Madeleine Albright saying they thought it was very worth it.

01:48:08.000 So this genocide goes far back into the Democrats.

01:48:11.000 It crosses a party line.

01:48:13.000 And look at Zbigniew Brzezinski.

01:48:15.000 He's somebody who, again, he says he's against the Iraq War, but he's talking about invading Russia. 0.81

01:48:20.000 He wants World War III, or World War IV, as they call it.

01:48:24.000 They just want to manage it slightly differently.

01:48:26.000 And, of course, Brzezinski talked about the Technotronic Era, and he says it involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society, such a society would be dominated by the elite.

01:48:37.000 So, you know, he is talking about microchips.

01:48:40.000 20 years ago, he says, such a society would be dominated by the elite, unrestrained by traditional values.

01:48:46.000 The capacity to assert social and political control over the individual will vastly increase.

01:48:51.000 It will soon be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and to maintain up-to-date, complete files containing even the most personal information about the health or personal behavior of every citizen in addition to more customary data.

01:49:07.000 These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.

01:49:10.000 He wrote this in 1971.

01:49:12.000 So what a visionary to see the kind of society that's being created with the biometric cashless society control grid, and it all links back to false flag terror, which is the method with which they scare us.

01:49:23.000 They're like magicians.

01:49:24.000 They get our eye off the ball, and they take away all our freedoms.

01:49:26.000 And just to express, you were talking, that quote was from Zbigniew Brzezinski, right?

01:49:31.000 Absolutely.

01:49:32.000 It was from an intro to Jimmy Carter's book, I believe.

01:49:37.000 Okay, well, Daniel, hang on.

01:49:38.000 We'll be back after the break with Daniel Abrahamson of falseflagnews.com.

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01:53:10.000 George Strait was Okay, we're back on the Alex Jones Show.

01:53:18.000 Once again, my name is Bob Basie, substituting for Alex Jones.

01:53:21.000 We're talking to Daniel Abramson of falseflagnews.com.

01:53:25.000 And I just want to, again, start this segment with a story that I was given by Kevin Smith, one of the producers of this show, having to do with what Mr. Averson was just talking about this.

01:53:37.000 This is out of the Toronto Star.

01:53:40.000 Posted December the 10th by Kevin Haggerty.

01:53:43.000 A generation is all they need. 1.00

01:53:44.000 One day we will all happily be implanted with microchips and our every move will be monitored.

01:53:50.000 The technology exists.

01:53:51.000 The only barrier is society's resistance to the loss of privacy.

01:53:55.000 I just want to read a few lines from this extensive article.

01:53:58.000 From this point forward, microchips will become progressively smaller, less invasive, and easier to deploy.

01:54:04.000 A series of tried and tested strategies will be marshaled to familiarize citizens with the technology.

01:54:10.000 These will be coupled with efforts to pressure tainted social groups and entice the remainder of the population into being chipped. 0.71

01:54:17.000 This, then, is how the next generation will come to be microchipped.

01:54:20.000 In the West, chips will first be implanted in members of stigmatized groups.

01:54:26.000 Commercial success is contingent on making serious inroads into tagging the larger population of law-abiding citizens Employers will start to expect implants as a condition of getting a job.

01:54:37.000 The U.S.

01:54:38.000 military will lead the way, requiring chips for all soldiers as a means to enhance battlefield command and control.

01:54:44.000 Following quickly behind will be the massive security sector, security guards, police officers.

01:54:50.000 The remaining holdouts will grow increasingly weary of Luddite jokes and subtle accusations that they have something to hide.

01:54:57.000 exasperated at repeatedly watching neighbors bypass them in chipped lines while they remain subject to the delays, inconveniences, and cost reserve for the unchipped, they too will choose the path of least resistance and get an implant. 0.80

01:55:11.000 What might Hitler, Mao, or Milosevic have accomplished if their citizens were chipped, coded, and remotely monitored?

01:55:19.000 While we cannot anticipate all the positive advantages that might be derived from this technology, the negative prospects are almost too terrifying to contemplate.

01:55:31.000 Gee, I bet you that Dole was a big Neanderthal when he read that.

01:55:33.000 He got all excited.

01:55:34.000 What do you think, Daniel?

01:55:36.000 Yeah, absolutely, and this has been a goal of theirs from the beginning.

01:55:38.000 You know, authors have been writing about this for 20 years, suggesting that there would be a time when brain implants and microchips would be put Into the human population and everyone said, well no one will support it.

01:55:49.000 Well they're fundamentally right about that.

01:55:50.000 You know in major polls over 90% of Americans, whether it's children or adults, are against getting in a plantable microchip.

01:55:57.000 So if you look into documents like the Revolution in Military Affairs document from 1994, the military tries to think of ways that they will market these to people.

01:56:08.000 And fundamentally it is the same group that were behind the tagging of The concentration camp and death camp victims in the Holocaust, IBM, which used their most advanced computers to document people and put them behind the camps.

01:56:21.000 In fact, when you look at the numbers on people's arms, that was thanks to IBM.

01:56:24.000 IBM is now the number one backer of Verichip Corporation, which is designing a lot of these implantable GPS-tracked microchips for the human population.

01:56:34.000 Furthermore, you have a company called Cyberkinetics, which has the brain gate chip.

01:56:39.000 And all of this is coming quickly down the pipeline.

01:56:41.000 You know, Bob, there was an interesting article a few days ago which said By 2026, scientists are estimating that we will be able to store all of our memories and our entire history in a computer the size of a sugar cube, and that we will really begin to download our consciousness into computers.

01:56:58.000 You know, the globalists are sitting on a wealth of technology, nanotechnology, which will undermine their oil empire, so they push this peak oil stuff on us.

01:57:05.000 They're sitting on microchips, brain implant chips, they're using EMF weapons, But it's amazing to see the wealth of technology that they have.

01:57:14.000 And in order to get people in a control grid where everything can be monitored, tracked, and traded, the microchip is the key.

01:57:19.000 You take away paper currency, the fiat currency, and you just push everyone into a system of numbers.

01:57:24.000 Hang on, Daniel.

01:57:25.000 We'll be right back after the break.

01:57:25.000 Hang on.

01:57:26.000 We're up against the break.

01:57:28.000 Bye-bye.

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01:57:47.000 Big Brother Mainstream Media Government Cover-Offs You want answers?

01:57:55.000 Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Okay, this is Bob Dacey back for the third hour of the Alex Jones Show here on the Genesis Communications Radio Network.

01:58:19.000 And we've been talking with Daniel Abramson of False Flag News.

01:58:23.000 He said you wanted to get into this business about this potential war with Iran, I believe he said.

01:58:28.000 Is that what you said, Daniel?

01:58:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:58:31.000 It would unfortunately be my pleasure to do so because I think we need to start making people aware of the potential that in spite of the globalists losing their war in Afghanistan to redeploy the opium crop.

01:58:43.000 In fact, you know, part of, when we're looking at the Afghanistan invasion, a lot of this is to try to build this trans-Afghan pipeline for natural gas.

01:58:50.000 That's true.

01:59:12.000 That money is then funneled by the intelligence agencies, primarily MI6 and CIA, into the Wall Street banks, where it is then pumped up through the hedge funds, the derivatives markets, and that hot money is then used to keep this fiat system running.

01:59:24.000 Let me emphasize that point, because you are really talking a mile a minute, and I talk less than a mile a minute.

01:59:28.000 So, let me emphasize that.

01:59:29.000 which are now going to be used for this takeover of the Middle East.

01:59:32.000 The other reason is for the oil reserves.

01:59:34.000 Let me emphasize that point because you are really talking a mile a minute, and I talk less than a mile a minute.

01:59:41.000 So let me emphasize that.

01:59:43.000 For those of you who do not know and you think that these people, these phonies up in Washington are debating, you know, when we're going to get out of Iraq, they are, what Daniel said is true, they are building 14 hardened, massive, permanent military bases in Iraq.

02:00:00.000 And you think that they're just going to pull out and leave those things?

02:00:03.000 Oh, come on! 0.99

02:00:05.000 What fantasy land do you live in?

02:00:06.000 However, let's talk about this impending war with Iran, which may or may not happen.

02:00:14.000 If you read the mainstream media, Just reading their stuff and their political cartoons about the leader of Iran and all that, and all their giant nuclear program, you get the impression that Xerxes and the Persian Horde is about to go kill all of us Greeks.

02:00:32.000 I mean, is that not the case?

02:00:36.000 Well, I think what you have is a group that got into this war.

02:00:39.000 I think they underestimated the situation in Iraq.

02:00:41.000 Although I don't buy this, you know, that they really thought that they were going to be treated as liberators.

02:00:46.000 I think at this point, when you look again back into their documents, I think that they're a hardcore group of Iran-contra criminals and Nordcom and Stratcom guys who still need their invasion of Iran. 0.86

02:00:57.000 And a lot of this, again, comes out of Israel.

02:00:59.000 And I'm not picking on Israel.

02:01:01.000 And I know there's a lot of people out there who claim that somehow Jews and Zionists are behind everything.

02:01:06.000 And those people really make my skin crawl.

02:01:08.000 Are you Jewish?

02:01:10.000 I am.

02:01:10.000 I mean, I'm not a particularly religious character, but by birth I am.

02:01:15.000 By birth you're Jewish, and you dare to criticize Israel?

02:01:20.000 Oh, I'm quite the self-hater, Bob, absolutely.

02:01:23.000 Are you insinuating that there is a difference between the people that run Israel, the Zionists, and the regular Israeli people?

02:01:31.000 Yeah, and when you look into the polls, you see that that's exactly the case.

02:01:35.000 Ehud Olmert has something around a 22% approval rating right now.

02:01:39.000 The IDF enjoys about a 13 or 14% approval rating.

02:01:44.000 The majority of Israelis are against the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

02:01:48.000 They are against the construction of the Apartheid Wall, which is infringing on territories of the Palestinians.

02:01:53.000 They're against the torture of tens of thousands of Palestinian political prisoners.

02:01:57.000 Furthermore, over 70% of Jews in this country oppose the war in Iraq.

02:02:02.000 So that isn't to say that there aren't top-level criminals in the Mossad, Shin Bet, Israeli Knesset, you know, Ehud Olmert's cabinet, absolutely, who are trying to direct these war policies.

02:02:12.000 But it's important that we see the nuance of things.

02:02:15.000 I think that so many people look at Israeli war crimes and they use that as an excuse to blanket one religious group and to say all Jews are behind it.

02:02:22.000 Not only is that anti-intellectual, it's just factually wrong.

02:02:25.000 Yeah, but I heard that the Jews done it. 1.00

02:02:26.000 That's what I heard over and over and over again.

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02:05:52.000 Okay, this is Bob Mason returning once again on the third hour of the Alex Jones Show, substituting for the inimitable Alex Jones, and we're talking with Daniel Abramson of falseflagnews.com.

02:06:08.000 We're going to take some calls in this segment.

02:06:12.000 I'm going to put up the number at 1-800-259-9231.

02:06:17.000 1-800-259-9231 if you want to ask Daniel a question about his endeavors.

02:06:22.000 Daniel, I want to ask you a question.

02:06:24.000 Why is it, this is kind of a simplistic question, but it comes up, why is it that criticism of Israel always is equated with anti-Semitism?

02:06:36.000 Well, I think, you know, for part of that you have to look into the ADL itself, which is very much a functionary of the Zionist government in Israel.

02:06:43.000 And anytime you go ahead and criticize the state of Israel, even for their admitted war crimes, for example, in the Guardian yesterday there was an article which quoted Israeli soldiers from the IDF admitting that they would go around murdering Palestinian children, and this was approved by their higher-ups.

02:07:00.000 Well, what you have is these organizations, so-called media watch organizations, like the ADL, which has actually been convicted of spying on Americans and creating dossiers on Americans, which use their contacts in the media.

02:07:12.000 Also, you have a lot of media influence.

02:07:14.000 Don't forget that there is tremendous Zionist influence in the media.

02:07:17.000 Now, that doesn't mean that the Jews control the media, but there is an influence of You know, certainly, people that want to have the State of Israel and all of their crimes covered up are certainly justified. 1.00

02:07:28.000 So when it comes to Israelis using white phosphorus in Lebanon, that has to have a justification. 0.99

02:07:34.000 When it comes to Israelis, you know, mass murdering Palestinians in the Occupied Territories, there's an excuse for that. 1.00

02:07:40.000 And I just, you know, I want to say to people, there's a lot of evidence of things going on here.

02:07:44.000 You have the Israeli art student spy ring, the dancing Mossad agents on 9-11, you know, Dov Zakhaiman, the 2.3 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon.

02:07:51.000 There's a lot of things to investigate.

02:07:53.000 Unfortunately, when people choose to do this, they are labeled as anti-Semites, and a lot of this comes from the ADL, a lot of it comes from media self-censoring, and a lot of it comes from people who are just too afraid, because they've seen other people's... other people have their careers smashed, and they don't want to take the risk.

02:08:08.000 So basically...

02:08:10.000 It allows you to get away with so much. 0.77

02:08:12.000 From what you just said, I would take it that the average uninformed person would think that you were a Jewish anti-Semite. 0.99

02:08:19.000 At the very least, I'm a pretty good self-hater, but again, it's unfortunate that there's people out there who mix this very real information and then say Jews did it because what it does is it delegitimizes the very hard research that's out there and it makes us all look like idiots and it's unfortunate. 0.95

02:08:36.000 We don't have to resort to those types of tactics, that type of Judeophobia, because it's just not conducive to progress.

02:08:42.000 What do you see coming down the pike here in regard to Iran? 0.52

02:08:46.000 Yeah, let me try to do it as quickly as possible.

02:08:48.000 Because we're going to be taking some phone calls here in this segment, and we're going to have Rob from Kansas up here in a minute, but go ahead, let's get it rolling.

02:08:56.000 Absolutely.

02:08:57.000 On December 11th, the Eisenhower Strike Group moved into the Persian Gulf, accompanied by the USS Anzio, a guided missile cruiser, and this supports as many as 100 fighter jets.

02:09:10.000 Now we know from Colonel Sam Gardner, the former Air Force Colonel, who correctly predicted many of the movements in the Iraq war including the timing that the Eisenhower strike group had been given prepare to deploy orders by the chaining regime as far back as October when they deployed from Norfolk, Virginia. 0.71

02:09:28.000 They have now arrived in the Persian Gulf and this also includes a war frigate, a submarine escort, a US Navy supply ship, minesweepers, cruisers, destroyers, And a nuclear battleship.

02:09:39.000 So this is a major armada moving into the Persian Gulf.

02:09:43.000 Now, we know that they are not there for landlocked Afghanistan.

02:09:46.000 We know they are not there for Iraq, with their small little piece of land which is covered by, you know, their small sea... I can't even get the coastline, I'm sorry, my brain slips me here. 0.97

02:09:56.000 But they are there for Iran, and there's two possibilities here.

02:09:59.000 One, that the attack has been ordered.

02:10:01.000 And that seems to be the idea behind Seymour Hersh's article for the New Yorker.

02:10:06.000 He suggested that the Israelis and the neocons inside the Vice President's office are once again putting through raw, unvetted intelligence, just like they did with the Office of Special Plans that the attack orders had been given.

02:10:18.000 Let me just do one more thing here.

02:10:20.000 I talked about war games.

02:10:22.000 NORCOM has just finished 10 days of war games, which ran from the 4th to the 14th, called Vigilance Shield 07.

02:10:29.000 And guess what, Bob?

02:10:30.000 It simulates nuclear war on Iran, which then spreads to North Korea, Russia, and China. 0.64

02:10:35.000 And we must understand that China has at least $250 billion worth of oil and gas deals with Iran, and that if the United States and Israel choose to attack Iran, it will be a major disaster.

02:10:47.000 It will provoke an endgame against Russia and China, which are emerging as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

02:10:54.000 They are now a major military and economic bloc.

02:10:57.000 If the Israelis attempt to do a preemptive strike, Bush has said he will understand it. 0.98

02:11:01.000 Cheney says he will support the Israelis, but we are at great danger right now with the Eisenhower strike group in the Gulf position, ready for an attack.

02:11:10.000 And I might punctuate what you just said.

02:11:13.000 That's quite a mouthful.

02:11:14.000 It sounds like what you're saying is the crooks that run the country right now aren't just a New World Order crowd. 1.00

02:11:20.000 They're crazy. 0.95

02:11:23.000 Because something like that can spiral out of control.

02:11:25.000 But I'd like to point out that Scott Ritter, the former head UN weapons inspector, he has a new book out.

02:11:33.000 And he very specifically says that Iran, just like Iraq, Doesn't have anything.

02:11:38.000 They cannot threaten anybody with anything because they don't have anything.

02:11:42.000 And yet they're making all this stuff up.

02:11:45.000 I just want to elaborate really quickly on that.

02:11:47.000 The same Seymour Hersh article says, Dick Cheney went to the CIA and said, show me what you know about an Iranian nuclear program.

02:11:53.000 The CIA came back and said, there is no Iranian nuclear program.

02:11:57.000 So now they're using the Israelis and phony intelligence to say that there is. 0.89

02:12:00.000 But even though Mossad says they're two to three years away from a bomb, the military in this country says five to nine years, and the CIA and State Department say nine years away.

02:12:09.000 The reason that the globalists and the neocons are rushed right now It's because Iran is beginning to trade their oil and currencies other than dollars, specifically the Euro and Iranian Rial.

02:12:20.000 This is putting tremendous pressure on an already embattled dollar.

02:12:23.000 Their currency is collapsing as we speak.

02:12:25.000 The dollar is falling apart.

02:12:27.000 They are losing their wars right now.

02:12:29.000 And the only way that they'll be able to send 50,000 more troops into Iraq is by using false flag terror to once again get our eye off the ball, get people saying, Zieg Heil, mein Fuhrer, and to get us all marching in lockstep behind this criminal regime. 0.53

02:12:42.000 Okay, Daniel, let's take a few phone calls here.

02:12:45.000 I've got Rob from Kansas up here.

02:12:47.000 Rob, are you there?

02:12:48.000 Yeah.

02:12:49.000 Go ahead and have a shot at it.

02:12:51.000 What's going on?

02:12:52.000 I was just wondering, the level they produce money, I was just wondering how long do you think it will be before it crashes, before the dollar crashes?

02:13:01.000 Well, you know, you want to take this first, Bob?

02:13:06.000 Well, I'm not an economist.

02:13:08.000 I have read on it.

02:13:10.000 I know Jerome Corsi has been writing on that subject on WorldNet Daily recently.

02:13:15.000 So, that's an area that I have no expertise in.

02:13:18.000 However, from what I've been able to understand, this collapsing dollar thing, they may not be an issue in 2008, but shortly thereafter it will be.

02:13:30.000 I mean, they've been pumping up the M3 money supply like it's going out of style, and they took the information down so people couldn't track it.

02:13:36.000 But I think some economists have kind of reconstructed it, and they are just printing dollars like they're going out of style, and I think maybe that is the endgame, that they do go out of style.

02:13:48.000 They're also running the Plunge Protection Team right now.

02:13:50.000 I encourage people to look into this.

02:13:52.000 This is Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke are working together to artificially prop up the stock market as they did in 1987 with the Plunge Protection Team.

02:14:03.000 Because what we're watching is a collapse in the dollar.

02:14:05.000 I want to read a few quotes from Alan Greenspan who said to expect the dollar to be down over the next two to three years.

02:14:10.000 He says, quote, I expect that the dollar will continue to drip downward until there will be a change in the US balance of payments.

02:14:17.000 There has been some evidence that OPEC nations are beginning to switch their reserves out of dollars and into euro and yen.

02:14:24.000 It is imprudent to hold everything in one currency.

02:14:26.000 What we're witnessing right now is central banks across the world, including the Chinese, with their $1 trillion in reserves, moving out of dollars.

02:14:34.000 You're seeing the same thing.

02:14:35.000 Venezuela is now trading in euros for their oil.

02:14:38.000 You have the opening of the Russian trading bourse in June, which is now trading oil in different currencies, including the ruble.

02:14:45.000 The Shanghai Petroleum Exchange in China opened on August 18th, trading in currencies other than dollars.

02:14:51.000 You have the Iranian oil force, which is soon to open.

02:14:53.000 So the dollar is under tremendous pressure as the petrodollar standard declines, as people no longer require dollars to buy oil, as the central banks begin to liquidate the dollar.

02:15:03.000 There will soon be, it's like a parabolic curve.

02:15:05.000 You watch it happen faster and faster until there is a free fall.

02:15:08.000 And when that happens, they will sell this country out and push us into the Amaro.

02:15:12.000 I think that has been the plan.

02:15:13.000 A lot of people need to begin looking into the Bank of International Settlements, the BIS.

02:15:18.000 They are the central bank of central banks and they are a lot of the people who are behind this currency manipulation.

02:15:24.000 Well, and you have the article I read earlier today referred to American University Professor Robert Pastor, the architect of the North American Union, is saying that the collapse of the dollar will be a good excuse to bring on the Amaro.

02:15:39.000 I mean, you know, he thinks it's a good idea.

02:15:41.000 And this is another good excuse for false flag terror.

02:15:43.000 Don't forget that Wall Street is in many ways the backer of the CIA, and the connections are very strong.

02:15:49.000 You know, there was a short selling of stocks before 9-11 to put options on airline stocks and insurance stocks, but it goes far deeper than that.

02:15:56.000 And the Federal Reserve owners, the people like the Rockefeller and Rothschild families that own the private Federal Reserve, as well as the owners of the Bank of England, are terrified right now as they watch their dollar standard collapse.

02:16:06.000 Much of this is outside of their control.

02:16:08.000 It's happening faster than they wanted it to.

02:16:11.000 And the only way they can control it is with the Plunge Protection Team, or their other option is that they have a false flag terror attack, they sink the economy, and then they blame Arab or Persian tattoos for it, and they say, see, Al Qaeda got us again, you know?

02:16:24.000 That'll be their plan.

02:16:25.000 That's gonna be extremely disgusting, no matter which way it falls, isn't it?

02:16:31.000 I mean, what are you supposed to do? 0.97

02:16:33.000 Well, you're darned if you do, and you're darned if you don't. 0.80

02:16:37.000 Yeah, we're watching hedge fund collapses right now. 0.94

02:16:39.000 The Amaranth Fund, a $6 billion hedge fund which collapsed.

02:16:43.000 The Goldman Sachs hedge fund is down 11% this year.

02:16:46.000 We have $400 to $500 trillion in the derivatives market moving around every day, unmonitored, unregulated.

02:16:53.000 There is so much hot money going around in the mortgage and housing market, and we're watching a housing market collapse right now.

02:16:59.000 Collateralized loan obligations are collapsing.

02:17:01.000 The subprime loan market is collapsing.

02:17:04.000 All of these things happening at once, and this creates a very nervous oligarchy, which may do something extreme in order to get the population back in the line.

02:17:12.000 Sounds like a lot of fun.

02:17:13.000 Do we have any other callers online?

02:17:19.000 OK, we're going to go to break.

02:17:22.000 Can you hang on for six more minutes, Daniel?

02:17:24.000 Absolutely, it would be my pleasure.

02:17:25.000 OK, after the break we'll be back with Daniel Abramson of FalseFlagNews.com.

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02:21:42.000 All right, we are back on the Alex Jones Show.

02:21:55.000 This is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones and we're talking with Daniel Abramson of falseflagnews.com and we've got a couple of callers we want to bring in right now.

02:22:06.000 Dave from Illinois.

02:22:07.000 Dave, are you there?

02:22:08.000 Yes, I am.

02:22:09.000 What's on your mind?

02:22:11.000 Good afternoon.

02:22:11.000 Well, first of all, I want to commend Mr. Abramson for his knowledge.

02:22:17.000 I mean, I listen to I've reached my own conclusions, and mine are very similar to his, and so I assume that he is right.

02:22:31.000 And also, I would like him to be like a Schindler. 0.77

02:22:38.000 He's not a self-hating person.

02:22:41.000 He's a person who believes in justice and integrity, and an honorable person.

02:22:46.000 I commend him for that.

02:22:50.000 I read a book, Dangerous Liaison, Inside Story of the U.S.-Israeli Covert Relationship, several years ago.

02:22:55.000 Are you familiar with that?

02:22:57.000 I haven't read that one, although I've read a lot of Viktor Orchovsky's work, and I've followed the AIPAC scandal closely.

02:23:02.000 Tell me about this book, though.

02:23:04.000 Well, this book, it's strange.

02:23:05.000 It's a major publisher, HarperCollins, and it's Andrew and Leslie Coburn.

02:23:13.000 It's spelled C-O-B-R-N.

02:23:18.000 You know, it was pulled, it was withdrawn from libraries and I called Borders to see if it was available and they said no and it was very strange that they didn't have a record of it.

02:23:29.000 But in there, it was written in the late 80s and the end of it was written at the time of the First Gulf War and they said in the build up to that, The attack on Iraq will happen if Neil Bush is indicted.

02:23:44.000 I mean, that was like the leverage that a reluctant George Bush, you know, wasn't sure about bringing this country into war, but it saved his boy from being indicted in the Silverado Savings and Loan thing.

02:24:00.000 But again, the book is dangerously aged on the entire story of the U.S.-Israeli covert relationship.

02:24:06.000 It talks about how In the fifties, that the CIA appreciated the information that they could get from Eastern Europeans, who are now Israelis, about Russia and about, and they could use, they used the Mossad, and respected the Mossad for the information on communist Russia and communist East Europe.

02:24:37.000 You know, obviously it's a well-written, long book.

02:24:41.000 There's much more than that in there.

02:24:43.000 And my education comes from several different sources.

02:24:47.000 But I just, you know, there's so much different, there is some crackpot conspiracy stuff that tends to obfuscate and make, it's hard to see the force through the trees.

02:25:02.000 But I think you very clearly elucidate You know what the situation is, and I commend you for it, and I think to say anti-Semitic or conspiracy is more effective than it should be at quashing legitimate discussion.

02:25:21.000 Okay, Dave, thank you very much for the call.

02:25:23.000 So another person who doesn't believe that the Jews did it all together is some monolithic organization of people who all think alike and act alike and do alike. 0.86

02:25:33.000 Up next we have Steve from Kansas.

02:25:35.000 Steve, are you there?

02:25:37.000 Yes sir.

02:25:37.000 Daniel, I do commend you also.

02:25:39.000 Thank you very much.

02:25:42.000 I'm on your website right now and I'm looking for more information on immigration.

02:25:46.000 I'm putting together a letter, an ordinance similar to Hazleton and Farm Branch to send to my local government.

02:25:58.000 And I was just wondering off the top of your head if you knew, has the United States ever closed their borders before?

02:26:05.000 And what I can do or where I can go to make this letter more powerful?

02:26:11.000 You know, I'm not an expert in terms of the history of whether the border has been closed.

02:26:17.000 I know certainly that since the IMF and World Bank austerity policies have really destroyed Mexico, the level of poverty and also the open border policy, which is being encouraged by the CFR, has allowed tens of millions of Mexican immigrants to come into this country illegally, and it's a tremendous pressure on the working class in this country who and it's a tremendous pressure on the working class in this country who need those I just want to put this out there, though.

02:26:38.000 As much as I oppose the Pan American Union, as much as I oppose the Amero and what the CFR is trying to do to destroy American national sovereignty, I am not convinced that building a wall like the Great Wall of China is the best idea Now, I ask you to hear me out here.

02:26:52.000 The $2.5 billion contract which has been handed out to Boeing.

02:26:56.000 You know, you look at Boeing, this is a company which has been used in CIA torture flights, I do not expect Boeing to really stop the flow of humans or drugs into this country.

02:27:05.000 I think that a wall may be used to trap Americans in this country after orders like Rex 84 or Operation Garden Plot are carried out in a martial law plan. 0.79

02:27:13.000 I worry that a border wall may be used to trap Americans in this country. 0.79

02:27:17.000 Now look, we need to stop the flow of illegals into this country. 1.00

02:27:19.000 We're coming up on a break here, Daniel.

02:27:21.000 Hang on just a minute.

02:27:21.000 See you from Kansas.

02:27:22.000 Thank you for the call.

02:27:23.000 We'll be back after the break.

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02:30:53.000 We're back on the Alex Jones Show talking with Daniel Abramson of FalseFlagNews.com.

02:30:58.000 I want to give out his email address, because he asked me to do it, in case any of you people out there listening would like to contact Daniel Abramson.

02:31:05.000 His email address is FalseFlagNews at Yahoo.com.

02:31:10.000 That's FalseFlagNews at Yahoo.com.

02:31:16.000 Okay, I've got one more caller on the line, Jeff from Texas.

02:31:19.000 Jeff, are you there?

02:31:20.000 Yeah, I'm there.

02:31:22.000 Bob, thank you so much for all that you do, for standing up to members of the King Commission in public, and thank you, Daniel, for keeping on top of the devil in the details for all the craziness that's going on right now.

02:31:35.000 I wanted to just draw attention to the editorial page of U.S.

02:31:38.000 News and World Report.

02:31:40.000 I think it's from this week.

02:31:41.000 It's called The Threat from Within by Mort Zuckerman, and he basically It comes out boldly with very little evidence and states that the next big attack is going to come from within our borders from new homegrown types that are using the internet as the new jihadist training ground and that

02:32:04.000 On the last page of the article, and you can see it online at usnews.com, in the opinion section, he says that the greatest threat to civil liberties today is not preventative measures, but failing to take them.

02:32:19.000 And I know this is nothing new to you guys, but it just seems like the talking points are starting to come out now, and go down to people like Zuckerman, that the next big thing's coming.

02:32:29.000 That sounds to me like the old deal out that the Democrats have taken control of the House and Senate.

02:32:33.000 The big enemy now is going to be them rednecks in America with them guns. 1.00

02:32:39.000 Yeah, or something akin to the subject matter of that new Showtime show called Sleeper Cell.

02:32:44.000 I mean, they may use both that group you mentioned, Bob, and the Arab Americans or Islamic Americans as well.

02:32:52.000 Yeah, those crazy militia types who believe in the Second Amendment are going to get us. 0.98

02:32:58.000 Daniel, just a small point.

02:33:00.000 You mentioned a nuclear-powered battleship.

02:33:02.000 I didn't know we had one in our inventory.

02:33:04.000 Which one is that?

02:33:07.000 Is he still there?

02:33:09.000 Oh, Daniel's gone.

02:33:10.000 Oh, I didn't realize he was gone.

02:33:11.000 I'm sorry.

02:33:11.000 Oh, he's gone.

02:33:12.000 Okay, that's fine.

02:33:13.000 We're going to have to have that for later on.

02:33:15.000 Okay, well, I'll tell you what.

02:33:17.000 Thank you so much.

02:33:18.000 I appreciate the call.

02:33:20.000 Okay, I didn't realize that Daniel was gone.

02:33:22.000 I want to appreciate Daniel Abramson for coming on.

02:33:26.000 I meant that guy talks a mile a minute.

02:33:27.000 That's quite a contrast with the way I do.

02:33:29.000 I'm from Texas.

02:33:30.000 I was born and raised here and I kind of talk kind of slow.

02:33:34.000 He sounds like he's from somewhere on the east coast or something where they go a mile a minute.

02:33:39.000 Again, you want to go to falseflagnews.com and check out what he's saying because it's interesting.

02:33:44.000 He's tracking the military and the drills they do and how that correlates with certain nasty things that happen.

02:33:55.000 I want to cover some more news.

02:33:57.000 I want to go back to this article that was written by Jerome Corsi posted today on World Map Daily under the New World Disorder section.

02:34:08.000 North American Union leader says merger just a crisis away and this is all tying in.

02:34:16.000 I mean even Mr. Abramson was mentioned in the CFR and how they want to impose the Amero on the American people.

02:34:25.000 And here it is in this article by Jerome Corsi.

02:34:27.000 Let me go over it again and continue with it.

02:34:31.000 Robert Pastor, a leading intellectual force in the move to create an EU-style North American community, told WorldNet Daily he believes a new 9-1-1 crisis could be the catalyst to merge the U.S., Mexico, and Canada.

02:34:46.000 Pastor, a professor at American University, says that in such a case, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP, Launched in 2005 by the heads of the three countries in a summit in Waco, Texas, could be developed into a continental union complete with a new currency, the Amero, that would replace the U.S. dollar just as the euro has replaced the national currencies of Europe.

02:35:10.000 Now, gee, isn't it just amazing that something that Mr. Pastor has been working on at least since 1998 is coming to fruition, and he's just thinking it's a major coincidence.

02:35:27.000 A big crisis might just push us over the edge so that this communist, Marxist traitor from the Council on Foreign Relations can get his way.

02:35:39.000 Let me continue with Dr. Corsi's article.

02:35:42.000 In May 2005, Pastor was co-chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force that produced a report entitled Toward a North American Community Which he has claimed is the blueprint behind the S.P.P.

02:35:53.000 declared by President Bush and Mexico's then President Vicente Fox and Canada's then Prime Minister Paul Martin.

02:36:01.000 At American University in Washington, D.C., Pastor directs the Center for North American Studies where he teaches a course entitled, North America, a Union, a Community, or just Three Nations.

02:36:17.000 As WorldNetDaily has previously reported, Pastor is on the board of the North American Forum on Integration, that's the N-A-F-I, a non-profit organization that annually holds Mock Trilateral Parliament.

02:36:32.000 Oh, Mock Trilateral Parliament.

02:36:34.000 Hmm.

02:36:34.000 It's a judicial branch for 100 selected students drawn from 10 universities in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico.

02:36:42.000 Pastor had published an interview in Spanish in the October 24th issue of Poder y Negotios.

02:36:49.000 He told the magazine, "Crisis can force decisions that otherwise would not be made." Well, Mr. Pastor, you know, you would know about that because that's what you guys do.

02:37:00.000 Problem, reaction, solution. 0.99

02:37:02.000 You guys create these crises and you get the poor dumb sheep to scramble for... 0.99

02:37:08.000 They get the reaction that you want them to do. 0.99

02:37:11.000 Oh help us!

02:37:11.000 Save us from the crisis!

02:37:13.000 And then you guys come out with the solution to the crisis that you created.

02:37:18.000 Which inevitably leads to more slavery and more world government.

02:37:22.000 So it's no surprise that he told the Spanish magazine here that a crisis can force decisions that would otherwise not be made.

02:37:35.000 The 9-1-1 crisis made Canada and the United States redefine the protection of their borders, end quote.

02:37:40.000 Pastor explained.

02:37:42.000 What?

02:37:44.000 Let me read that again.

02:37:46.000 This is just too funny.

02:37:49.000 The 9-1-1 crisis made Canada and the United States redefine the protection of their borders.

02:37:53.000 That's Robert Pastor.

02:37:55.000 Mr. Pastor, you know darn well that the border between the United States and Mexico is wide open, and you like it that way.

02:38:01.000 How exactly did we redefine the protection of our borders?

02:38:05.000 The border between the United States and Mexico has been wide open before, during, and after September 11th, and he knows it.

02:38:14.000 So here we have here Robert Pastor caught in a bald-faced lie.

02:38:19.000 And he continues, the debt crisis in Mexico forced the government to adopt a new economic model.

02:38:26.000 The crises oblige the governments to make difficult decisions.

02:38:31.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:38:31.000 They do.

02:38:32.000 And who was the people who imploded the Mexican economy? 1.00

02:38:36.000 All these bankers lending them all this money, all these globalists and internationalists.

02:38:40.000 I think it was you guys, wasn't it, Mr. Pastor?

02:38:43.000 Problem, reaction, solution.

02:38:45.000 Continuing on with the article.

02:38:49.000 This was the first time WorldNetDaily had found a major intellectual leader behind the push to integrate North America, suggesting that a crisis of 9-1-1 proportions might just be what was needed to advance the process toward establishing a North American Union and the Amaro.

02:39:07.000 WorldNetDaily reached Pastor in his office at American University and conducted a telephone interview to make sure the Spanish publication accurately reflected his views.

02:39:17.000 He affirmed the Spanish interview represents his thinking.

02:39:22.000 So Mr. Pastor is looking forward to a 9-1-1 type event to usher in the Amaro and merge the United States, Canada, and Mexico into one big, happy, totalitarian, socialist, communist state.

02:39:40.000 Oh, gee, that's great.

02:39:42.000 Here's another quote from Mr. Pastor.

02:39:45.000 What I'm saying is that a crisis is an event which can force democratic governments to make difficult decisions like those that will be required to create the North American community.

02:39:56.000 It's not that I want another 9-1-1 crisis, but having a crisis would force decisions that otherwise might not get made." Pastor noted, for example, that Europeans facing the crisis of two world wars turn to the European community as a means to prevent war and advance their economic interests.

02:40:18.000 And I would add to that, of course, Mr. Pastor, because it's exactly what the EU was, and it's the same thing, it's the same model.

02:40:25.000 The European Union model is being followed here by you globalist one-world traders in the Western Hemisphere.

02:40:34.000 And here he says it again, here he is.

02:40:37.000 The pastor says, the United States turned to the Marshall Plan when faced with the crisis of Western Europe falling into the hands of communism.

02:40:45.000 So I'm not advocating or encouraging or wanting a crisis.

02:40:49.000 I'm only saying that in order to take important initiatives, sometimes one manner in which this occurs is when there is a crisis, to which leaders need to respond.

02:41:00.000 Yeah.

02:41:00.000 Isn't that great?

02:41:01.000 So when there's a crisis, you just toss the United States of America into the garbage heap of history.

02:41:07.000 Is that right, Mr. Pastor?

02:41:09.000 Pastor Tower, on that day, he lamented that the leadership of the three North American countries is not positioned To make the type of tough decisions needed to advance a North American community agenda.

02:41:21.000 What do you mean?

02:41:21.000 They've already signed the deal!

02:41:23.000 SPP.gov!

02:41:24.000 Go read it!

02:41:25.000 Come on, Mr. Pastor!

02:41:28.000 In his interview with Poder and Negotios, he argued, quote, Canada has a minority government and Mexico will soon have a minority government that will be confronted with what amounts to an uprising that we hope will be peaceful.

02:41:41.000 The United States has a lame-duck president whose principal preoccupation is the war in Iraq and the instability in the Middle East." Pastor further told World Net Daily, Mexico's Fox made a tactical mistake by laying out an overly ambitious agenda to integrate with the United States.

02:41:59.000 So what does that mean, Mr. Pastor?

02:42:02.000 Fox shot off his mouth a little bit early and started to scare the Americans into starting to realize that they plan to merge his krakocracy with the United States of America and just screw up the entire region. 0.59

02:42:15.000 Is that what you're saying, Mr. Pastor?

02:42:18.000 Quote from Mr. Pastor.

02:42:19.000 Again, President Bush then took on the issue of illegal immigration and it proved to be much more difficult than anticipated.

02:42:27.000 End quote.

02:42:30.000 That's what he said.

02:42:30.000 In the absence of strong North American leadership, is a crisis the way greater North American integration can be expected to happen?

02:42:39.000 You know, you might as well take this guy and dress him up in a cheerleader outfit. 1.00

02:42:43.000 You know, this Mr. Pastor, he keeps repeating the same thing.

02:42:48.000 You guys just don't seem to be getting the job done.

02:42:54.000 You know, you ought to get him a little, kind of a red cheerleader outfit. 0.93

02:42:58.000 You know, red for commie, and put a big T on it.

02:43:01.000 You know, give me a T for traitor!

02:43:06.000 Let's see, what else does this old boy have to say here?

02:43:08.000 Uh, there are alternatives to a crisis for getting a major decision adopted by the President and the Congress.

02:43:16.000 But what I am saying is, is that we lack the kind of North American leadership we need Our Founding Fathers created a system of government that was not designed to be efficient, but was designed to protect freedom.

02:43:29.000 Therefore, you created checks and balances that did protect freedom, but it also made it difficult to move forward on important issues.

02:43:37.000 Okay, Mr. Pastor, you just confessed right there that you do not like our form of government.

02:43:46.000 You are saying that the Founding Fathers screwed up because they're making it difficult to move forward on important issues because they actually, those dead gum old guys, they created a system of government that protects freedom! 0.91

02:44:02.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is a direct quote from Mr. Pastor.

02:44:05.000 Let me read that again.

02:44:06.000 Let me read that again.

02:44:10.000 What I am saying is that we lack the kind of North American leadership we need.

02:44:14.000 Our Founding Fathers created a system of governance that was not designed to be efficient, but was designed to protect freedom.

02:44:23.000 Therefore, you created checks and balances that did protect freedom, but also made it difficult to move forward on important issues.

02:44:31.000 So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Robert Pastor, Counsel on Foreign Relations, American University Professor, author of Building a North American Community, doesn't like the checks and balances system that has made this country what it has been, the greatest country on the face of the earth.

02:44:49.000 Interesting.

02:44:51.000 Pastor was asked what North American leaders would need to do to move toward integration.

02:44:56.000 Quote, we need to form a customs union to move North American integration to a new level.

02:45:02.000 End quote.

02:45:02.000 Pastor argued.

02:45:04.000 A customs union would eliminate rules of origin on the border and agree to a common external tariff.

02:45:10.000 This would not be easy but not as difficult as NAFTA was and it would lead to I don't know, ladies and gentlemen.

02:45:26.000 I'm about to fall over here. 0.98

02:45:28.000 This is the most disgusting, obvious, pathetic lie, or one of the most disgusting ones in this whole thing. 0.98

02:45:37.000 Yeah, all NAFTA did was exactly what the little general said. 0.99

02:45:42.000 Ross Perot, a giant sucking sound of jobs leaving this country.

02:45:48.000 Yeah, this is going to contribute to a better standard of living for all parties.

02:45:53.000 Yeah, especially those slaves in Communist China.

02:45:55.000 They're bringing all the Communist Chinese slave goods over here. 0.99

02:45:58.000 Now they're going to have a great standard of living because there's going to be more and more of them stacked up like cordwood in those slave factories in communist China working for Walmart as they de-industrialize the United States further and further and further and as they bring that cheap stuff over here and bring it up through the trans-Texas corridor with no border check run by a company there at the border that scans them with a little Vera chip inside the boxes which is run by the communist Chinese. 0.99

02:46:26.000 Come on.

02:46:28.000 Yeah, we're going to have a better standard of living for all parties.

02:46:33.000 It's nonsense.

02:46:33.000 The idea is to take the American standard of living down.

02:46:38.000 That's the idea, ladies and gentlemen.

02:46:40.000 To take the American standard of living down.

02:46:43.000 So we can be more comfortably merged with the kookocracy that is Mexico. 1.00

02:46:48.000 And later, of course, the entire Western Hemisphere.

02:46:50.000 Which is the next step.

02:46:52.000 They tried it in the FTIA, Free Trade Area of the Americas, but they took off a little bit more bite than they could chew, and it kind of screwed them up, so they decided to just take a smaller bite so they would unite just three countries.

02:47:04.000 Continuing on with this article, Pastor also called for a North American investment fund to invest in Mexico's infrastructure.

02:47:12.000 Well, there you have it again.

02:47:13.000 That's the same thing we've been talking about.

02:47:15.000 The North American Investment Fund funded by you taxpayers so that we can build the Mexican portion, once again, of the Trans-Texas Corridor.

02:47:25.000 Man, this guy is so transparent.

02:47:28.000 This is so transparent.

02:47:30.000 Here's a quote from Mr. Pastor.

02:47:32.000 If we had a North American Investment Fund, over the long term, You would narrow the income gap between Mexico and the U.S.

02:47:39.000 end quote.

02:47:43.000 This is funny.

02:47:43.000 I mean this is just hilarious.

02:47:45.000 The guy is overtly communist.

02:47:48.000 Overtly communist.

02:47:49.000 Okay so in other words Americans are making too much money according to Mr. Dr. Trader Pastor and if you had this fund you could take our money and turn it into their money and therefore you would lower the income gap Yeah, you see, in order to lower the income gap between U.S.

02:48:09.000 and Mexico, what that means is American income has to fall precipitously.

02:48:15.000 And that's a mathematical certainty.

02:48:17.000 You can't even argue with that.

02:48:18.000 You're not going to get the Mexican income to come anywhere near ours. 0.99

02:48:21.000 It's just going to take ours down, Mr. Pastor. 0.97

02:48:24.000 So how do you explain that as prosperity for America, you traitor? 0.81

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02:51:54.000 So I'll thank you.

02:51:55.000 This is the final segment of the Alex Jones Show, and I'm substituting for Alex today.

02:52:00.000 I'm sure he'll be back on Monday.

02:52:04.000 I'm attacking Robert Pastor, the author of the Building a North American Community.

02:52:09.000 Right now I'm reading from an article from Jerome Corsi, which has extensive quotes from Robert Pastor, which is posted on WorldNet Daily right now.

02:52:18.000 Well, not that he previously reported.

02:52:20.000 Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, dropped his support for legislation S 3622.

02:52:26.000 He introduced in the 109th Congress to create a North American investment fund.

02:52:30.000 After Walnut Valley pointed out the proposed law would advance an important part of pastors agenda to create a North American community.

02:52:38.000 Now I'm going to add to that, that John Cornyn got caught with his pants down because it exactly Word-for-word came out of that North building in North American community document the same wording and and John Cornyn does not have the excuse that oops oh gee what a horrible coincidence I'll just take that out right now because he introduced the same bill the year before you know even before this this document came out so Cornyn you got some serious problems there when it comes to protecting your country

02:53:08.000 Pastor was careful to distinguish that his proposals were designed to create a North American community and that he had never proposed to create a North American Union as an EU-style regional government.

02:53:19.000 Quote, What I am recommending is a series of functional steps that are more than incremental.

02:53:25.000 Pastor admitted, Each of the proposals I have laid out represent more than just small steps But it doesn't represent a leap toward a North American Union or even some confederation of any kind.

02:53:36.000 I don't think either is plausible, necessary, or even helpful to contemplate at this stage." Yeah, Pastor.

02:53:43.000 Frog in the pot, boy.

02:53:45.000 Yeah, even helpful to contemplate at this stage. 0.61

02:53:50.000 That's right, you incrementalist son of a gun.

02:53:53.000 Yeah, that's the next stage, isn't it, Mr. Trader?

02:53:59.000 Continuing with the article, the idea seems to be to put new structures in place that change the look of the landscape.

02:54:06.000 Well, then he pointed out to Pasteur that this step-by-step approach is the same approach taken to create the European Union.

02:54:14.000 The memoirs of Jean Monnet, regarded as the architect of the European unity, finally disclosed that he had used the strategy of deceit, knowing his plan to form a European Union would never succeed if it were openly disclosed.

02:54:26.000 Pastor asked if he thought the North American Union was a bad idea.

02:54:30.000 No, he replied.

02:54:31.000 I don't think a political union of North America is an inherently bad idea, nor do I think it's a good idea for North America right now.

02:54:39.000 I teach a course at American University in which I look at the different options for political integration of North America, and I put the options before the students.

02:54:49.000 Yeah, he poisons the students with his treason of destroying the United States of America.

02:54:54.000 That's what he does.

02:54:56.000 And then they ask him, why is the North American Union a bad idea right now?

02:55:00.000 And he says this, the reason the political integration is not a good idea at this stage now, perhaps never, is because of people like yourself who immediately begin to fear that their sense of America would disappear.

02:55:13.000 Pastor responded, quote, somehow if you're fearful that America's sovereignty will disappear, you won't even take small steps forward.

02:55:22.000 You just get mired in the status quo.

02:55:25.000 The problem is that the world is moving very rapidly and you can't stay competitive if you don't move.

02:55:31.000 There you go, ladies and gentlemen. 0.54

02:55:33.000 Staying American is not going to allow us to stay competitive according to this traitor, Robert Pastor.

02:55:40.000 Listen, ladies and gentlemen, we're out of time on the Alex Jones Show.

02:55:45.000 My name is Bob Dacey.

02:55:47.000 I've been very happy to sit in for Alex this last few days.

02:55:50.000 And he will be back on Monday.

Alex Jones Show - December 15, 2006

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