Alex Jones Show - 20070118_Thu_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:20.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome. welcome.

00:00:40.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:42.000 I tell you, I feel like myself again.

00:00:44.000 For the last, I don't know, what is it, almost two weeks, I have had the worst allergies of my lifetime.

00:00:53.000 And I know I've been starting a lot of the programs Discussing that.

00:00:56.000 I don't normally talk about, you know, how I feel or what my health is like.

00:01:00.000 It's just so amazing to live in a city where everyone I know has horrible sinus headaches and something that mimics a chest cold.

00:01:11.000 And you talk to everybody and it wasn't like this in the past.

00:01:15.000 You've got to ask yourself, what has changed?

00:01:17.000 Why are allergies all over the country?

00:01:20.000 But especially in Austin, Texas, known as the national capital, the worst place in America, in the U.S., for allergies.

00:01:28.000 Why has it gotten so bad?

00:01:32.000 So in the last week and a half or so, if I've sounded like a toad or been a bit grumpy, it's because of a strange effect that the allergies have had on me.

00:01:43.000 I guess when you feel bad, you make yourself go to work, you're a bit curmudgeonly.

00:01:46.000 But I am honored to be your host and honored to be here.

00:01:50.000 And I am blessed that I'm going on a short vacation for part of next week to visit family.

00:01:55.000 Maybe I can fully escape the allergies then, but I'm going to have Jack Blood and Bob Dacey for the days I'm out sitting in next week, so you definitely do not want to miss that.

00:02:07.000 that it is Thursday, and it is the 11th day of January 2007.

00:02:17.000 Still getting used to that.

00:02:19.000 And obviously I want to have open phones today.

00:02:22.000 I want to give you a chance to respond to Bush's lengthy speech that he gave last night.

00:02:28.000 I watched a lot of it.

00:02:30.000 I was also working on a film while we had it on in the background.

00:02:34.000 And we already basically heard all of this propaganda spewed by his different surrogates and his different handlers and his different front people, but I've had a chance to read the transcript.

00:02:43.000 I've got several audio clips of it I want to play, but I want to give you a chance on air, all of you, to respond to what George Bush has said.

00:02:52.000 We've got one of the head spokespeople from World Can't Wait, the lady who basically destroyed Bill O'Reilly a few days ago. 1.00

00:03:02.000 We've got one of the ladies who led the shutdown of the Democrats, a little press conference. 0.99

00:03:08.000 She's going to be joining us for about 30 minutes in the next hour. 0.99

00:03:11.000 Other than that, we're going to have wide open phones today.

00:03:17.000 And we can talk about any issue, any news story, anything you wish to discuss.

00:03:21.000 You are welcome to call in at 1-800-259-9231.

00:03:29.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:03:30.000 But as I said, I will go over Bush's speech.

00:03:36.000 Also, some news that's really sensational.

00:03:41.000 It's so important and no one seems to be pointing it out.

00:03:44.000 Well, it's in a few British papers, but it's a footnote.

00:03:48.000 And that is that Our government, our illegitimate criminal government, is openly funding, in a takeover of Somalia, the very warlords that killed our troops in 1993.

00:04:02.000 The real agenda of the global elite in Somalia, neocons are backing the same warlords that slaughtered U.S.

00:04:11.000 troops in 1993.

00:04:12.000 That's a story by Steve Watson up on Infowars.net, another one by Paul Watson, that added the information that we got yesterday with our Our expert on Somalia we had on.

00:04:24.000 Bush administration empowers Somali warlords who killed US troops.

00:04:31.000 Bombing clears path for re-emergence of Black Hawk Down savages to cost of Somali people. 1.00

00:04:41.000 So, We'll break this down.

00:04:45.000 Bush's speech.

00:04:46.000 What it really means.

00:04:47.000 We kind of had an epiphany this morning.

00:04:49.000 And a lot more today.

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00:08:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:05.000 Good evening, this is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:21.000 I'm here at 8 after instead of 12 because the traffic was a killer getting here.

00:08:26.000 So we played a little replay for the first five minutes.

00:08:29.000 Once again my name is Bob Dacey.

00:08:31.000 Today is the 18th of January 2007 and we're going to talk about Principally, we're going to talk about NAFTA, the NAFTA Highway, the Trans-Texas Corridor, and how important it is to all you people out there.

00:08:48.000 At 12 o'clock, we're going to have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts come on.

00:08:53.000 We'll be interviewing him in the second hour.

00:08:55.000 But for right now, this is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones.

00:08:59.000 I am a personal friend of Alex Jones.

00:09:02.000 I've known him for many years.

00:09:04.000 He was the guy that woke me up to what was going on.

00:09:07.000 Locally, I am the host of The Simple Truth, which is a television talk show on Time Warner Cable in Austin, Texas.

00:09:16.000 And I'm in my eighth season.

00:09:18.000 My show is produced by Kelly Taylor, who is a writer for the New American magazine, and by Jeff Cantoff.

00:09:25.000 Who is the guy responsible for the Building 7 footage you've seen over and over and over again over the years?

00:09:32.000 It was him that had the wherewithal to record everything on that day.

00:09:40.000 I also have written for the New American and of course I'm a frequent contributor to InfoWars.com.

00:09:47.000 The most important thing that people can do right now to stop this juggernaut, this

00:09:56.000 New World Order crowd, these globalists, these elitists, these international bankers, whatever you want to call them, the most important thing you can do right now is to fight the NAFTA Superhighway because the NAFTA Superhighway is an infrastructure component of the North American Union.

00:10:19.000 If you Unless you're asleep or watching the mainstream media all day, you know that this North American Union thing is coming down the pike right now.

00:10:31.000 Many years ago, G. Edward Griffin, a couple years ago, he was in town and he made an analogy about a cruise ship being like the United States of America.

00:10:43.000 And everybody's aboard the cruise ship.

00:10:45.000 And they're doing their thing, having a good time, and a small group of of the passengers noticed that pirates have come aboard and have taken over the cruise ship.

00:10:56.000 They killed the captain and they killed the crew and they threw them overseas and they dressed up in their uniforms and now they're running the cruise ship and the vast majority of the people don't know it.

00:11:06.000 Well that's the way it is with this Trans-Texas Corridor thing.

00:11:13.000 You know, you can fight the globalists on many levels and you can oppose, say, for example, the war in Iraq, which I'm sure we're going to be talking about later on.

00:11:22.000 But the problem is these pirates that have taken over the ship of state, the United States of America, are heading it for a bunch of icebergs right now.

00:11:32.000 And that's what this North American Union is.

00:11:34.000 That's what the Trans-Texas Corridor is.

00:11:37.000 So if you want to prioritize, Before you go fix all the other problems that the globalists are creating, you have got to stop this North American Union, because the ship's going to hit this iceberg, and it's going to sink the whole ship, and everything else is going to be irrelevant.

00:11:53.000 They're trying to merge Canada, the United States, and Mexico into one big happy country right now.

00:12:03.000 Right now of course the mainstream is not covering it with the notable exception of two journalists.

00:12:09.000 One of them is Jerome Corsi who writes for WorldNet Daily and for Human Evidence Online.

00:12:15.000 The other one is Lou Dobbs of CNN and I understand he's got some bizarre arrangement where he actually controls the editorial content of his show.

00:12:26.000 Both these two guys have been on it But people the likes of Alex Jones, myself, Kelly Taylor, Jeff Kentoff, we have been on this thing way longer than the mainstream media.

00:12:40.000 And I want to start out talking about an article that I wrote for the New American Magazine way back in November of 2005.

00:12:51.000 The article was called Texas Keystone State of the FTAA.

00:12:56.000 And I wrote it for the New American when they sent me up to Waco to cover the Free Trade Area in the Americas Conference.

00:13:05.000 The Free Trade Area in the Americas Conference was a follow-up to an earlier deal they had at Waco where Vicente Fox and President Bush and Prime Minister Martin of Mexico did this Security and Prosperity Partnership or SPP.gov deal where they agreed to have an economic A cultural and security merger of the three countries, Canada, United States and Mexico, into one country.

00:13:35.000 They want to do it now.

00:13:37.000 I mean, they're doing it right now, by 2010.

00:13:40.000 So, I went up there to Waco to attend this conference, this follow-up conference, and the chief speaker there was Dr. Supachai Panichpakti.

00:13:52.000 And Dr. Panchapati is a communist.

00:13:55.000 I mean, you know, just look him up on the internet.

00:13:57.000 He's a proud communist and he was the featured speaker at this meeting full of economics professors and business professors and representatives from Canada and Mexico at this confab up at Baylor.

00:14:12.000 And I was attending this dinner that he had, that they had, of course, at the beginning of this thing, and Dr. Subhachai He was about 20 feet away from me when he said that it was very important when you have, when you're going to create this new structure, this free trade area, and of course at this time they wanted to encompass the entire Western Hemisphere, but now they're settling on three countries, you know, a smaller bite, Canada, United States, and Mexico.

00:14:43.000 But he said you have to have an infrastructure In place in order to make the free trade area work and he mentioned a project in Southeast Asia.

00:14:53.000 He said it was he said it was critical and of course right there.

00:14:57.000 You knew darn well that that's what the Trans-Texas Corridor is the Trans-Texas Corridor is a is the first segment of the NAFTA Superhighway the NAFTA Superhighway.

00:15:10.000 is a is the main artery of a gigantic spider web of corridors that's going to just basically ensnare the whole area thus creating this infrastructure that Dr. Supichai said you had to have in order to create this this this trading union this trading area so another thing Dr. Supichai said and I I have to point this out because it shows you

00:15:39.000 The ideology of the people that are working on this.

00:15:43.000 He said in passing that he had been meeting with Bo Xilai, the current trade minister of China, the other day.

00:15:54.000 And then in passing he said, oh by the way, he is the son of Bo Yibo, one of the eight immortals of the Chinese Communist Revolution, a close associate of Chairman Mao.

00:16:09.000 And of course, this went over the head of all the pointy-headed intellectuals there, but I'm going, OK, wait a minute.

00:16:14.000 I looked it up.

00:16:15.000 It's true.

00:16:17.000 Bo Xilai is the son of Bo Yibo, and he was one of the eight immortals of Communist China.

00:16:24.000 And he was instrumental in helping Mao murder, what, 30, 40, 50 million people?

00:16:32.000 Panipatti Clown was saying what a great deal that was.

00:16:35.000 He called him a hero.

00:16:38.000 The son of a hero of the Chinese Communist Revolution.

00:16:43.000 So, you know, you've got to wonder about these people when they're the ones that are pushing this free trade area of the Americas.

00:16:51.000 Well, since that time, the last thing I said in my article was, let me just read the last paragraph, Meanwhile, elsewhere in the great state of Texas, the fight over the Trans-Texas Corridor continues, with little awareness of the elaborate design for hemispheric convergence of which that scheme is a part.

00:17:11.000 Dr. Panitch-Pakhti pointed out that a unified trade region requires infrastructure, and it is therefore up to patriotic Texans to see that the corridor never gets built.

00:17:23.000 It is up to the American electorate to put pressure on the Congress To ensure that the FDAA never comes to fruition.

00:17:31.000 And I mentioned an international banker here, Robert Fisher, who knows that the political road to a successful free trade area of the Americas goes straight through the U.S.

00:17:40.000 Congress.

00:17:41.000 So do we.

00:17:42.000 It's up to us to build a roadblock.

00:17:45.000 Now that's what I said in the New American back in November of 2005.

00:17:50.000 Well, the New World Order crowd must have been listening because they decided to make our roadblock imagine a line.

00:17:57.000 They've decided to go around it.

00:18:00.000 I mean, if you follow the law, Congress is the only body.

00:18:04.000 It's Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution, the supreme law of the land.

00:18:08.000 Congress is the only body that can regulate foreign trade.

00:18:12.000 I mean, you know, it's not like ambiguous or anything like that.

00:18:17.000 But they've decided, well no, we realize that Congress could be a roadblock to this because the American people, well they really do not want to merge their country with Canada and Mexico and destroy the whole thing.

00:18:29.000 So we're just gonna do it anyway.

00:18:34.000 And so that's why they had their Security and Prosperity Partnership meeting in 2005 and they are implementing this thing right now.

00:18:48.000 You know, who's behind all this?

00:18:49.000 Well, I wrote another article for InfoWars.com, or an article for InfoWars.com specifically, called the FTAA and the New World Order Plan, and that was published June the 21st, 2006.

00:19:05.000 And you have to lay the blame square on the elites, square on the Council on Foreign Relations crowd, square On David Rockefeller and his people.

00:19:20.000 And again, you've heard this quote before, but it's so important because you have to see the big picture of what this NAFTA superhighway is.

00:19:29.000 You've got to understand who's pulling the strings.

00:19:32.000 And when we get back, I'm going to read this quote from David Rockefeller and you will see in his very own words, Mr. Rockefeller and his crowd.

00:19:42.000 He says, Hey, I'm a traitor and I love it.

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00:24:20.000 All right, this is Bob Dacey, once again, substituting for Alex Jones on the 18th of January, 2018.

00:24:34.000 Alex is taking a little vacation.

00:24:37.000 I'll be here today and I'll be here tomorrow.

00:24:41.000 And before the break we're talking about the big boys behind this thing.

00:24:47.000 That little song I heard, Mother, Should I Run for President?

00:24:51.000 Well, you know, it'd be nice if Ron Paul was president.

00:24:55.000 I know he has announced, although all the media is fawning over Barack Obama.

00:25:01.000 Gee, it kind of reminds me of back in the 70s when all of a sudden, like somebody turned on a light, all the mainstream media were fawning over Jimmy Carter.

00:25:13.000 He came out of nowhere and all of a sudden he gets to be president.

00:25:16.000 I mean fast forward a few years and next thing you know there's this backward state north of Texas called Arkansas full of drug dealers and I got this crooked womanizing governor, drug dealing womanizing governor who is really a nobody nationwide and all of a sudden just like somebody turns on a light Wow, all of a sudden, Bill Clinton is THE man. 0.86

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00:25:51.000 Barack Obama, all of a sudden, every single media outlet all across the country, that's all they can talk about.

00:26:00.000 Well, all that means is that someone higher up has told him to turn on that little light and start promoting him.

00:26:09.000 So Barack Obama is going to be one of these CFR approved candidates for president.

00:26:15.000 Because if you're going to run for president, you can run if you want to.

00:26:19.000 But if you're going to get elected, you have to be CFR approved.

00:26:22.000 Council on Foreign Relations.

00:26:24.000 And now back to the subject.

00:26:26.000 I got off the subject there.

00:26:27.000 We're talking about Who's behind the Free Trade Area of the Americas?

00:26:31.000 Who's behind the North American Union?

00:26:33.000 And I was talking about David Rockefeller. 0.99

00:26:36.000 Hey, you know, David Rockefeller is a traitor to his country. 0.99

00:26:39.000 You know, he is. 0.99

00:26:39.000 I mean, he loves it. 0.99

00:26:41.000 He admits it.

00:26:42.000 He thinks it's a great deal.

00:26:44.000 Now, if you don't, you think, how can you say that?

00:26:47.000 Well, I didn't say it.

00:26:48.000 He said it.

00:26:49.000 Let me read a quote from his book, Memoirs, David Rockefeller's own book, Memoirs, on page 405, in a chapter entitled, This is David Rockefeller himself.

00:27:05.000 For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions.

00:27:23.000 Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interest of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists, and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global, political, and economic structure.

00:27:42.000 One world, if you will.

00:27:45.000 If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

00:27:52.000 Now, ladies and gentlemen, There you have it.

00:27:54.000 Out of the mouths of traitors.

00:27:57.000 David Rockefeller admits that he works against the best interest of the United States of America and he's proud of it.

00:27:57.000 Right there.

00:28:05.000 And one of his latest projects is the North American Union.

00:28:12.000 And of course you probably know, or maybe you don't know, I don't know if you're new to this kind of information, if it's all new to you.

00:28:20.000 You may not know that a couple years ago the Council on Foreign Relations published a paper on one of their task forces called Building a North American Community.

00:28:32.000 The chief proponent of this in the CFR was a Robert Pastor who is an avowed Marxist.

00:28:40.000 And this plan is the blueprint for the merger of the United States, Canada, and Mexico into one Happy country.

00:28:52.000 And that would, of course, destroy the national sovereignty of the United States of America.

00:28:58.000 We would be no more as an independent nation.

00:29:02.000 And, of course, if you look that up in the dictionary, I think that's a definition of treason.

00:29:06.000 Anyone who would work to destroy the United States of America, if he's an American, if he's an American citizen, would have to be characterized as a traitor.

00:29:17.000 I mean, that's not a stretch at all.

00:29:19.000 That's just the way it is.

00:29:21.000 So when we get back we're going to talk about how the Feds at the national, international level are planning to do all this.

00:29:32.000 This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show on the GCN Communications Radio Network.

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00:33:33.000 Okay, this is Bob Dacey once again, substituting for Alex Jones, and we're talking about the North American Union.

00:33:42.000 And I have to point out that if you want to learn about North American Union, if you want to really understand what's going on, your best bet for information is to go to the John Birch Society website.

00:33:55.000 That's www.jbs.org.

00:33:59.000 Please do that.

00:34:00.000 www.jbs.org.

00:34:03.000 They have a section on the North American Union and the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

00:34:10.000 And they go through the whole thing.

00:34:11.000 They'll tell you what the North American Union is, and who's trying to create it.

00:34:16.000 David Rockefeller and his CFR buddies.

00:34:19.000 They'll tell you what the Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement is.

00:34:23.000 And of course, if you really want to get bogged down in the minutiae of it, you can go to SPP.gov.

00:34:29.000 That's a government website.

00:34:31.000 Talks all about how wonderful destroying the United States of America is.

00:34:34.000 I mean, it's right out there where you can read it.

00:34:37.000 No conspiracy theory here.

00:34:39.000 And of course, the Birch Society.

00:34:42.000 I am a member of the Birch Society.

00:34:44.000 I am not a spokesman for the Birch Society.

00:34:46.000 I am not a high official of the Birch Society.

00:34:49.000 I am really a lowly rower at the oars, so to speak.

00:34:54.000 But the Birch Society is obviously against this thing.

00:34:58.000 And of course, they've been against it before it ever started because they knew it was coming down the pike. 0.98

00:35:04.000 That's the thing about the Birch Society.

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00:35:20.000 Now I was once again I discovered something last year that no one had reported in the press either mainstream or alternative.

00:35:31.000 And I was doing research on these corridors that are going up from Mexico up through the United States up into Canada and I discovered last June that, well gee, if you don't believe this thing is federal, I just found out then that they had passed a law President Bush signed the thing I think in June, July of 2000, July 29, 2005 is when he signed this bill.

00:36:02.000 It was a big highway appropriations bill.

00:36:04.000 And it was a big old fat thing, telephone book size thing.

00:36:08.000 But section 1604, this is H.R.

00:36:10.000 3, if you don't believe me, 2005, H.R.

00:36:11.000 H.R. 3, if you don't believe me, 2005, H.R. 3, Section 1604, It's the Law.

00:36:19.000 It's been signed.

00:36:20.000 The title of my article was, It's the Law.

00:36:23.000 Feds paved the way to toll and privatize the interstate highways as a part of the American Union.

00:36:28.000 All right.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, you see, none of this stuff we're talking about in terms of tolls is local.

00:36:35.000 None of it.

00:36:36.000 It's all coming from David Rockefeller, it's all coming from the Council on Foreign Relations, it's all coming from the elites, and it's all coming, therefore, from the federal government.

00:36:44.000 That's where they've got the lock on, you know?

00:36:49.000 Basically, let me just read a few sentences from this article I wrote on Infowars.com.

00:36:55.000 On July 29, 2005, President Bush signed a bill which permits and promotes the charging of tolls on existing and planned interstate highways, bridges, and tunnels.

00:37:05.000 Before the passage of the bill, known as SAFE-T-E-A-L-U, or Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Transportation Equity Act, a legacy for users, It was generally illegal to charge tolls on roads built with federal funds.

00:37:21.000 What's more, the tolls collected will be automatic, requiring universally compatible toll transponder tags on every vehicle.

00:37:28.000 And then I went through six different pilot programs that were set up at the federal level in order to commence the process of tolling and privatizing not only new, but existing interstate highway systems.

00:37:46.000 And I guess the summary of my article is this paragraph.

00:37:53.000 I want to read this because this sums up the whole thing.

00:37:57.000 Imagine for a moment what must have been going through the minds of the six-legged elites when they thought up this diabolical scheme. 1.00

00:38:05.000 The question is, how do you destroy the national sovereignty of the United States Merge it with the rest of the Western Hemisphere, build the infrastructure system needed to link up the entire landmass, confiscate private property on a wholesale level, spy on everyone's comings and goings, and trick American suckers into paying for their own demise all in one fell swoop.

00:38:31.000 The answer?

00:38:32.000 Toll everything.

00:38:36.000 So, that is what's going on, and let me I'm going to be concentrating for most of this show on exactly what's going on in the Central Texas area.

00:38:48.000 And you think, oh well that's just Central Texas.

00:38:50.000 No, this is a test case for the entire nation.

00:38:55.000 The first part of this Trans-Texas Corridor has been built and it's toll highway 130 east of Austin.

00:39:04.000 and of course it was built by uh... you know it's it's uh... this scene trial organization is going to be controlling the thing that's concesiones infraestructuras de transporte from spain with a texas company kind of tagging along the side called Zachary and uh... you know make people americans think that's okay and so you know they're going to be Tolling this thing and the profits are going to go to Spain.

00:39:32.000 Isn't that wonderful?

00:39:34.000 And that's just the beginning.

00:39:36.000 Okay?

00:39:36.000 That's what the point is.

00:39:37.000 It's just the beginning.

00:39:38.000 Number 130 is only the very first part of the Trans-Texas Corridor, which is going to go all the way up through Texas.

00:39:47.000 But that's only a segment of the NAFTA Superhighway, which is going to go all the way up through Canada and down into Mexico.

00:39:54.000 And eventually, if these people have their way, it's going to go all the way down to South America.

00:40:01.000 So that's why what's going on in the Austin area is so vitally important to the rest of the world.

00:40:11.000 The rest of the United States.

00:40:13.000 It's a test case.

00:40:14.000 And we have local groups here fighting this system.

00:40:21.000 Now, right now, what's going on in the Austin area is They set up, they had a bill they passed a couple of years ago, several of them, but House Bill 3588 in 2003 in the Texas Legislature was what set up most of this.

00:40:36.000 They set up all these regional mobility authorities and in Austin we have the Central Texas Regional Mobility Authority and we also have the CAMPO Board which is the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization.

00:40:54.000 Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization.

00:40:58.000 Now, what is that?

00:41:00.000 Well, that's just a bunch of politicos that all got together to decide how to spend federal road money in the Austin area.

00:41:10.000 They are now in the process of trying to stop this Campo Board from tolling existing freeways around Austin.

00:41:21.000 I'm looking at a map right now of Austin, and I see that the proposal is called Phase 2 Tolls in Central Texas, and it's basically encircling the city.

00:41:36.000 There's Loop 360 on the west.

00:41:38.000 There's Highway 183 on the east. 290 on the north. 71 on the south.

00:41:46.000 Basically, there's a proposal to basically toll an almost entire ring around the city of Austin of-- and this is important-- existing highways that we already paid for with our tax money.

00:42:03.000 Now, other than the fact that that is vulgar, disgusting, immoral, violent, putrid, and un-American, not too bad. 1.00

00:42:13.000 But you think about it. 0.90

00:42:17.000 These people actually want to toll existing highways.

00:42:22.000 You think about that.

00:42:24.000 And it's all coming from the federal level.

00:42:25.000 They didn't think of this themselves.

00:42:26.000 And which is the point.

00:42:28.000 This is just a test case.

00:42:31.000 Now, you say, well, they say, they say, well, no, no, no, you guys don't understand all of the money that we're going to raise

00:42:42.000 from tolling these existing roads is going to stay in the local community so shut up and don't worry about it you know that's what they're telling us well the problem is every single dime that they squeeze out of us here in Central Texas to maintain and build and do whatever with these feeder roads these these major roads around Austin which don't

00:43:10.000 necessarily tie in with the Trans-Texas Corridor.

00:43:15.000 Some of them do.

00:43:17.000 Every dime that the Texas Department of Transportation doesn't have to spend out of their funds on our local roads, well guess what they're free to do with that money?

00:43:28.000 They're free to spend it on their pet project.

00:43:31.000 And their pet project is the Trans-Texas Corridor.

00:43:36.000 So Don't let anybody tell you that the money in your area, when they try to do this to you, if we fail and they do it in your area, is going to stay in the local community because it's just a big fat accounting lie.

00:43:53.000 Like I say, if they don't have to spend it on those roads because they took it from you as you were driving along, then they've got more money to play with for their pet project.

00:44:06.000 I'm holding, there's a brochure that I've got in my hands here, Stop Highway Robbery.

00:44:10.000 This is from TexasTollParty.com.

00:44:13.000 Actually, this is AustinTollParty.com.

00:44:16.000 And this is an example, a glorious example of activism.

00:44:19.000 I mean, this is great.

00:44:21.000 They're passing out thousands of these flyers.

00:44:24.000 And by the way, if you do live in the Austin area, you can come pick up one of these flyers at my, my place of business, which is the Hardware Store Incorporated.

00:44:32.000 Which is located at the intersection of Highway 183 and Spicewood Springs Road here in Austin.

00:44:38.000 Come pick up one of these flyers and it kind of gives you a summary of what this local board is trying to do to shift paid-for roads to toll roads.

00:44:50.000 And, you know, it's not a bad idea to do that.

00:44:53.000 You can come pick up this flyer and AustinTollParty.com has a A website where you can actually send a message to all 23 members of this Campo board.

00:45:05.000 Some of these people are actually on our side.

00:45:09.000 But unfortunately, I think probably a lot of them don't know what the heck's going on.

00:45:12.000 They all think it's local.

00:45:13.000 They're just going along to get along.

00:45:15.000 But unfortunately, some of these people on this Campo board know exactly What they're doing.

00:45:23.000 They know what the big picture is.

00:45:27.000 And that's kind of sad.

00:45:30.000 It's extremely sad.

00:45:31.000 I want to go over some of these people with you here in a minute.

00:45:36.000 For example, Kirk Watson.

00:45:40.000 He is on the Campo board.

00:45:43.000 And he is a brand new state senator from District 14 here in Texas.

00:45:47.000 He used to be the mayor of Austin.

00:45:50.000 This guy knows exactly what he's doing.

00:45:53.000 Why do I say that?

00:45:54.000 Because he likes to go up and hobnob in New York up at the U.N.

00:45:58.000 He did that when he was mayor and when you hobnob with the U.N.

00:46:03.000 that means you're a globalist and that's what Kirk Watson is and so he's on the CAMPO board and that's very bad news.

00:46:13.000 Now my favorite member of the CAMPO board is State Representative District 52 Mike Crousey.

00:46:21.000 Oh boy.

00:46:23.000 Mike Crousey came into town, oh years ago, I think it was 92 when he got elected to the state legislature and his emblem on his campaign posters was a broom.

00:46:35.000 And in political parlance of the broom, that's the broom reform.

00:46:40.000 You know, he's going to sweep the state clean of corruption.

00:46:43.000 That was his logo.

00:46:46.000 Well, lo and behold, many years later, Mike Rousseau has sold out to the other side, and he's just furthering his own political career at the expense of everybody else, taking humongous contributions from the highway lobby.

00:47:04.000 He's the guy that snuck the bill through the state legislature.

00:47:07.000 He's the chairman of the House Transportation Committee.

00:47:10.000 And he's the guy that snuck House Bill 3588 through the state legislature, setting up this Trans-Texas Corridor, giving them all the, or not all of, but giving them a start to the process of tolling everything.

00:47:29.000 So Mike Creasy knows what he's doing.

00:47:32.000 He absolutely knows what he's doing.

00:47:35.000 And, uh, as a matter of fact, if you don't believe me, you think he's just a duke, I have a report that has his name on it that was published in 2004.

00:47:48.000 House Committee on Transportation, Texas House of Representatives, Interim Report, 2004.

00:47:52.000 Uh, Mike Creucy, Chairman.

00:47:56.000 And this is all about these roads.

00:48:00.000 And he has a segment on tolling where he discusses new technology.

00:48:08.000 And he says, new technology allows motorists to purchase an electronic toll tag which is affixed to their windshields.

00:48:14.000 Scanners mounted above the toll road read the tag and deduct payment or charge payment to a credit card while the car is traveling in a normal rate of speed.

00:48:23.000 A camera snaps a picture of the license plates of those who do not have tags and they are mailed the notice of payment.

00:48:29.000 Most who receive the notices pay up promptly.

00:48:33.000 Wow, how about that?

00:48:34.000 You know, and that's exactly, here it is, 2007, and that's exactly what they're doing.

00:48:40.000 You know, you can't escape these things.

00:48:41.000 They're coming after you, no matter what.

00:48:43.000 You drop through those things and you're going to get, you're going to get, you're going to have to pay.

00:48:47.000 Then they have a, this is again, not 2004, it is predicted toll tags will eventually be used interchangeably with other systems on a nationwide basis.

00:48:56.000 No, it's not predicted.

00:48:58.000 Predicted my hind leg.

00:49:00.000 It's mandated.

00:49:02.000 It's something that they call inter-operability.

00:49:05.000 That's what they call it.

00:49:07.000 Inter-operability.

00:49:10.000 And later on, we talked to Mike Crucy.

00:49:11.000 I told you he was fully aware of the big picture.

00:49:13.000 He's encouraging the big picture.

00:49:15.000 He's encouraging the NAFTA superhighway.

00:49:18.000 He says this.

00:49:21.000 It is important that Congress and the U.S.

00:49:24.000 Department of Transportation give priority to nationally significant corridor systems already identified as high-priority corridors and that support the U.S.-Mexican-Canadian trade patterns.

00:49:37.000 See there?

00:49:37.000 This is right out of his own report.

00:49:39.000 Mike Crucy's got his name on it.

00:49:41.000 Let me read that again, just so you don't think that Mike Crucy is an unwilling duke.

00:49:47.000 It is important that Congress and the U.S.

00:49:50.000 Department of Transportation give priority to nationally significant corridor systems already identified as high-priority corridors and that support U.S.-Mexican-Canadian trade patterns.

00:50:02.000 This means that priority should be given only to north-south high-priority corridor routes and border improvements connected to them that will enhance the flow of trade to and from border crossings in that direction.

00:50:20.000 There you have it.

00:50:20.000 Right there.

00:50:21.000 He knows exactly what he's doing. 0.52

00:50:23.000 He's no fool.

00:50:25.000 And he's got some bills and legislation that says the bills would require the U.S.

00:50:29.000 Department of Transportation to direct funding only to projects on high-priority corridors that connect to Mexico or Canada, giving priority to corridors where the trade traffic has increased under NAFTA.

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00:54:11.000 Alright Bob, thanks for back once again.

00:54:13.000 Substituting for Alex Jones this Thursday, January the 18th.

00:54:18.000 And we're talking about our friends here in Austin who are trying to tow local roads in order to basically fund this Trans-Texas Corridor.

00:54:29.000 And I was talking about Mike Crewcy and I've just shown you via his own report that he knows exactly what he's doing.

00:54:36.000 He is encouraging this NAFTA superhighway system Which by the way, IH35 of course and the Trans Texas Corridor is going to be the central hub of this spiderweb of corridors.

00:54:52.000 Now Mike Crucy, gosh I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this, Mike Crucy is an interesting guy.

00:54:57.000 I did a little research on how much money he gets and from whom a few years ago and the guy is just dripping with construction money.

00:55:07.000 Just dripping with it.

00:55:09.000 I mean he gets these thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars for his campaign finance account from highway contractors.

00:55:17.000 Hmm.

00:55:18.000 I wonder if there's any connection there.

00:55:20.000 I don't know.

00:55:20.000 Maybe it's just a coincidence.

00:55:21.000 However, he's got so much money that he's able to spend it on very interesting things.

00:55:27.000 I looked into a six-month period a few years ago, and out of his campaign finance account, understand this is where people are supposed to give you money to run for office.

00:55:38.000 Most people spend that on staples and paper and mailings and, you know, things like that, posters and advertisements on the radio and TV and print media.

00:55:50.000 Most people spend their campaign finance money on that.

00:55:54.000 But Mike Creucy, Mike Creucy, let's see if I can remember.

00:55:58.000 He spent about two thousand some odd dollars in one six month period at the King Ranch Saddle Shop.

00:56:07.000 See that's a big fancy gift shop.

00:56:09.000 So he's just passing out gifts to his buddies.

00:56:11.000 $2,000?

00:56:11.000 Wow, that's a lot of money.

00:56:14.000 I think they would tick me off if I gave him money to find out that he was buying gifts for his friends at the King Ranch Saddle Shop.

00:56:21.000 Let's see what else does he know.

00:56:22.000 Oh yeah, he spent about $600 some odd at the Aziz Salon and Day Spa.

00:56:32.000 The Aziz Salon and Day Spa out of Mike Crucy's campaign finance checkbook a few years ago.

00:56:40.000 That was a good expense.

00:56:42.000 I mean, you've got to relax, get a massage.

00:56:44.000 These are gifts.

00:56:45.000 They're gifts for his buddies that help him out.

00:56:49.000 And then my favorite of them all.

00:56:51.000 I mean, Mike Crucy. 0.99

00:56:52.000 I mean, you really have to have some cojones to do this. 0.98

00:56:55.000 Mike Crucy wrote a check out of his campaign finance account To an outfit called Skydive San Marcos. 0.99

00:57:06.000 That's right.

00:57:07.000 Skydive San Marcos.

00:57:10.000 Now you know, skydiving lessons or whatever the heck that was, of course that's a legitimate campaign expense.

00:57:16.000 Skydiving lessons?

00:57:17.000 We all have to have skydiving lessons for our friends, now don't we?

00:57:21.000 So that's what we're dealing with when we're talking about Mike Kruse.

00:57:24.000 Who was the current, who was on this Campo board Which is fixing to possibly vote to toll roads we already paid for.

00:57:34.000 So, you know, that's what we're talking about here.

00:57:37.000 Now we got some other members of this Campo board that are interesting.

00:57:41.000 Sarah Eckhart, Travis County Commissioner Precinct 2.

00:57:45.000 She is a new member of the Campo board because she replaced Karen Sonnleitner, who used to be the Travis County Commissioner of Precinct 2.

00:57:55.000 What happened to Karen Sonnleitner?

00:57:56.000 Well, she was a 10-year incumbent.

00:57:59.000 You know, a shoo-in. 1.00

00:58:00.000 A Democrat 10-year incumbent in Travis County, Texas.

00:58:04.000 Travis County is kind of a weird county.

00:58:06.000 It always goes Democratic, whereas the rest of the state goes Republican.

00:58:11.000 She was the Commissioner, but she got beat by this Sarah Eckhart, because Karen Sonnleitner was a tolerant.

00:58:20.000 So, that's what can happen, you guys.

00:58:22.000 After the break, we'll be right back on the Alex Jones Show.

00:58:29.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com. Or call toll free, 877-300-7645. Nope. 877-300-7645. Nope. .

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00:58:59.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:00.000 You want answers?

00:59:02.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:03.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:08.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 Alright, this is Bob Basie once again substituting for Alex Jones.

00:59:19.000 Seems like I'm making a habit of this lately.

00:59:21.000 This is about the fifth time I've done this in the last few months and I'm very, very honored to do it.

00:59:27.000 You know, I think that the fact that Alex trusts me to sit here in his Central Texas Command Center every once in a while and do my thing, to me that is a tremendous honor.

00:59:39.000 I don't get, you know, on my TV show I only get to talk to a few thousand people and sitting here at this microphone I get to talk to a couple of million so I think it's a pretty good deal and I want to thank Alex for giving me the opportunity to do that.

00:59:54.000 Okay we're talking about this local issue which is really a test case for the nation about tolling highways making you pay for roads you already paid for.

01:00:05.000 Pretty soon there's going to be a meeting here in Austin of the Campo Board and these guys are going to be meeting on Monday and it's going to be great.

01:00:15.000 They're going to have a public meeting and everybody's going to come and I would like to talk to them and let me just tell you what I want to tell this board that's starting thinking about even thinking about tolling existing highways.

01:00:28.000 Let me just tell you what I want to do.

01:00:31.000 I want to talk to them.

01:00:31.000 I want to talk about the big picture.

01:00:34.000 What I've been talking about with you.

01:00:36.000 I want to focus international and national attention on this local thing so these people will have the heat on them.

01:00:41.000 That's the point.

01:00:42.000 That they can't get away with this.

01:00:44.000 That they've got no excuse for thinking it.

01:00:45.000 They didn't know what they were doing.

01:00:46.000 That they were just going along to get along and they didn't realize that what they're doing is empowering this Trans-Texas Corridor.

01:00:54.000 It's funding this Trans-Texas Corridor by voting to toll local roads.

01:01:00.000 So the TxDOT is free to spend its money elsewhere.

01:01:04.000 So you give them the big picture, you know, you tell them about the Rockefellers and their friends behind all this tolling, you let them know about the North American Union, the building of the North American community, the fact that they're trying to merge the country, and it says mainstream news now, it's no conspiracy theory, it's mainstream news, completely documentable, that's bye-bye United States of America, and you understand, you have to explain to them that this infrastructure project

01:01:33.000 Highway 130, east of Austin, is part of the Trans-Texas Corridor, which is the main start of the NAFTA Superhighway, which is a spiderweb of priority corridors that is going to ensnare the whole area.

01:01:48.000 And, uh, they've already started the process.

01:01:51.000 The law is already in place.

01:01:52.000 The total of the interstates, uh, H.R.

01:01:55.000 3, Section 1604, passed in the 2005, uh, legislature at the federal level.

01:02:02.000 And, of course, Another thing I want to let them know is that the Department of TxDOT is a participant in the North American Public-Private Partnership Conference that they held just a few months ago at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City.

01:02:20.000 Now, they sent a representative up there, James Bass from the Texas Department of Transportation, to explain to foreign investors how to confiscate paid-for American infrastructure.

01:02:34.000 That's what I said.

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01:02:48.000 The Infrastructure Finance Conference.

01:02:51.000 Text dot is up there.

01:02:53.000 You know, explaining, well, hey foreign investors, you know, tell you what, this is how you confiscate existing highways and bridges and tunnels and you force people to pay for what they already own and then you transfer the money that they give to you over to you guys and you can take it over to Spain or Australia or wherever the heck you're going.

01:03:14.000 I mean, literally this is going on right now.

01:03:16.000 There is no doubt about it.

01:03:19.000 There's no question about it at all.

01:03:22.000 Uh, that's what we want to talk to you about, uh, TxDOT and all that, and the CAMPO board.

01:03:28.000 And, uh, hopefully we're going to put some international pressure on them.

01:03:31.000 When we get back, though, we're going to change gears, and we're going to be talking to, uh, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, uh, right after this break.

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01:07:01.000 You want answers?

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01:07:08.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:07:15.000 Once again, the canned announcer has it wrong.

01:07:18.000 This is Bob Dacey, substituting for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show here on this 18th of January, 2007.

01:07:26.000 In this segment for the next hour, we have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on.

01:07:30.000 Dr. Roberts, this guy is an interesting guy.

01:07:33.000 I've never met him.

01:07:34.000 He doesn't know me.

01:07:35.000 I don't know him.

01:07:36.000 I've never talked to him.

01:07:37.000 However, I do know something about him.

01:07:39.000 He's an economist, and he's an AFSCME syndicated columnist for Creator Syndicate.

01:07:44.000 He was once the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan administration.

01:07:49.000 I believe he had something to do with supply-side economics, and he's the former editor, columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Businessweek, and Scripps Hour News Service.

01:08:00.000 Now, you're thinking about this guy as some lightweight, right?

01:08:03.000 No, I don't think so.

01:08:04.000 According to his biography, in 1992, he received the Warren Brooks Award for Excellence in Journalism, and in 93, The Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States of America.

01:08:21.000 Dr. Roberts, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:24.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:08:26.000 Bob.

01:08:27.000 I'm sorry, Bob.

01:08:27.000 That's all right.

01:08:31.000 Bob Dacey, I'm a local local TV show host here in Austin, Texas.

01:08:36.000 I have a show called The Simple Truth.

01:08:38.000 I've been on the air for eight years and I've known Alex for about nine years.

01:08:43.000 And gee, he must trust me or something because I'm sitting in front of his microphone.

01:08:47.000 I'm sure he trusts you, Bob.

01:08:49.000 So yeah, I was kind of informally told I was going to be talking to you right now.

01:08:54.000 So what I would like to do, I want to go through some of your Some of the things you've said in the past, and just to get you to comment on them, if you will, and eventually we'll get into some of this newer stuff.

01:09:04.000 Do you stay for the whole hour?

01:09:07.000 I can stay for about ten minutes to one.

01:09:09.000 About ten minutes to one.

01:09:10.000 Okay, well that's what we'll do then.

01:09:11.000 That's what we'll do then.

01:09:14.000 According to your bio, you wrote an article calling for Bush's impeachment.

01:09:20.000 Why did you do that?

01:09:22.000 Well, I've called for it more than once.

01:09:25.000 Well, this was about the Downing Street memo?

01:09:27.000 Which one?

01:09:28.000 The Downing Street memo?

01:09:29.000 Well, that was a long time ago, but I called for it two or three times since then, including this week.

01:09:34.000 Why do you think our illustrious, imperious leader needs to be impeached?

01:09:38.000 Well, he needs to be impeached for a lot of things, but the one you're talking about, I called for it because we then had absolute, total proof from a top-secret British document for I's only cabinet members.

01:09:58.000 That the head of the British intelligence had been to Washington and he came back and told them that the decision had already been made to attack Iran and that the intelligence was being fixed around the policy.

01:10:15.000 That was Iraq, right? 0.64

01:10:16.000 Iraq, yeah, Iraq.

01:10:18.000 But they were, you know, it was all being contrived to justify a decision they'd already made and they were still pretending that They might need to attack it if he has weapons of mass destruction.

01:10:32.000 Yeah, but what about Colin Powell before the U.N.?

01:10:38.000 Yes, Colin Powell later went to the U.N.

01:10:44.000 with the falsified information that the Bush administration had given him.

01:10:49.000 Yeah, my favorite one was the balloon inflators.

01:10:53.000 If you don't know about the Downing Street Memo, it's a stunning thing.

01:10:59.000 A top-secret memo only for the British Cabinet, only for Tony Blair and his top ministers, eyes only, and it's a direct statement from the head of British intelligence who had just come back from Washington where he had learned from talking to his American counterparts that the United States government had already made a decision to invade Iraq and

01:11:28.000 if that decision was independent of whether they had any weapons or any other things, and that the Americans were fabricating whatever evidence they needed to justify a decision they had already made.

01:11:42.000 Okay, so the bottom line in English there is that President Bush lied to get us into a war.

01:11:50.000 That's exactly it.

01:11:51.000 And you actually think that's an impeachable offense, to lie to get us into a war?

01:11:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:56.000 Of course it's an impeachable offense.

01:11:58.000 Not only that, but an aggressive invasion is also a war crime under the Nuremberg Standard that we established ourselves when we tried the Germans after World War II.

01:12:15.000 So when the President of the United States commits a war crime, that is also an impeachable offense.

01:12:21.000 So you had two Major, probably the two greatest reasons that you could have to impeach a president.

01:12:30.000 I remember that before the war started, Scott Ritter, the Chief Weapons Inspector, had been in Iraq for years after the first Gulf War.

01:12:41.000 He had a press conference in Washington.

01:12:43.000 It was televised Not everywhere, obviously, but at least it was probably on C-SPAN and a few other outlets that he was saying, listen, these guys don't have any weapons of mass destruction.

01:12:55.000 Period.

01:12:56.000 They don't have any.

01:12:57.000 If they did, I'd be in favor of going there and getting them, but they just flat don't have it.

01:13:02.000 I mean, it wasn't exactly a mistake, was it?

01:13:07.000 No, it wasn't a mistake.

01:13:10.000 But for Scott Ruff saying that, they went to work on him, and smeared him, and smeared him, and smeared him, and they used all the TV people to do that for them.

01:13:20.000 So, no, they didn't make a mistake.

01:13:23.000 It wasn't... They knew... Look, if the head of British Intelligence tells the British Cabinet... I've just come back from Washington and they've told me that they don't care whether the guy's got any weapons or not, they're not really interested in that, they've already decided to attack him, but they're making up this So they have an excuse.

01:13:43.000 I mean, you don't have any more proof.

01:13:44.000 What other proof could you need?

01:13:46.000 Do you see what I'm saying?

01:13:47.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you've got, that is a tremendous amount of proof.

01:13:50.000 As a matter of fact, it's a smoking gun.

01:13:52.000 However, it doesn't stand alone.

01:13:54.000 There are so much more.

01:13:55.000 Oh, you're right.

01:13:56.000 That's right.

01:13:57.000 The weapons inspectors themselves said they couldn't find any weapons.

01:14:00.000 Yeah, but Rumsfeld said they had them.

01:14:03.000 He said he knew exactly where they were.

01:14:04.000 Remember?

01:14:05.000 That's right.

01:14:06.000 And we heard about mushroom clouds.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, so basically we were tricked into a war where over 3,000 Americans have been killed, 20,000 or so have been wounded and maimed and screwed up, and who knows how many Iraqis. 0.94

01:14:25.000 I think they think the Iraqis are like vegetables or something like that.

01:14:28.000 They don't care how many of them.

01:14:29.000 I mean, I've heard estimates as low as 100,000 and as high as 600,000 Iraqis have died because of this.

01:14:39.000 Yeah, almost entirely civilians, women and kids.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, mostly civilians because it's not like Napoleon and out there on the field with our troops versus their troops shooting each other and counting who's dead.

01:14:52.000 I mean, there is no army in Iraq that we're opposing.

01:14:56.000 It's a bunch of what we call them insurgents, don't we? - Yeah, we'll go ahead well bush calls them terrorists yeah well yeah they're terrorists yeah i guess they're yes they're terrorists They are, I suppose, guerrilla insurgents. 0.63

01:15:10.000 I wonder what we would be called if there was a giant Iraqi army in our country.

01:15:19.000 Freedom fighters.

01:15:20.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:22.000 A little semantic problem there, I don't know.

01:15:25.000 There's another view you took that was somewhat radical if you talk about mainstream media.

01:15:34.000 That you were talking about September 11th attacks saying that there was a large energy deficit in the official account of the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings and I was wondering if you could just kind of go over what you mean by energy deficit and what you were trying to say there.

01:15:54.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:55.000 Well, I was an undergrad.

01:15:58.000 My undergraduate degree was from Georgia Tech and of course we That's a science and engineering school.

01:16:06.000 And it's very simple.

01:16:10.000 The two World Trade Center towers, which just sort of suddenly collapsed, they, those towers, comprise a certain amount of gravitational energy.

01:16:26.000 That is, should the support systems fail with a certain amount of gravitational energy that would bring those buildings down.

01:16:40.000 And what could cause the collapse of the massive steel structures?

01:16:50.000 They had 47 central steel columns.

01:16:55.000 And what could not only cause that collapse, but to cause it occur at just about three free-fall speed, that is the speed that if you drop the steel ball bearing off the top at the time it would take to hit the ground, the buildings fell.

01:17:11.000 And what could cause it to pulverize all that concrete, because when the buildings collapsed we didn't see a great high pile of concrete slabs there.

01:17:24.000 There was no slabs. 1.00

01:17:26.000 It was all pulverized and fine dust.

01:17:27.000 So where could the energy have come from to do all of that?

01:17:35.000 And we know with the gravitational energy in the buildings, it can be calculated, and it's nowhere near enough to account for the collapse at near free-fall speed and the pulverization.

01:17:48.000 And so what is?

01:17:49.000 So there has to be some other source to have caused that.

01:17:57.000 And people say, well, let's add in the plane that hit it and the isolated smothered fires that burned in one case for less than an hour in a few limited areas.

01:18:08.000 And you add that in, that doesn't do much to the energy.

01:18:14.000 And so there has to be some other source of energy.

01:18:20.000 What is it?

01:18:21.000 We don't know.

01:18:22.000 No one's examined this problem.

01:18:24.000 No one officially examined.

01:18:26.000 And all the witnesses, the eyewitnesses say they heard a series of explosions.

01:18:29.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:18:31.000 Massive explosions in the basement.

01:18:33.000 Alright, Dr. Roberts, we're going to be back with you talking about this subject after the break.

01:18:37.000 This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones on Genesis Communications Radio Network.

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01:22:49.000 Okay, it's Bob Basie back for Alex Jones it's Bob Basie back for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show podcast.

01:23:11.000 Talking with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:23:12.000 We were talking about World Trade Center collapse.

01:23:17.000 I think we pretty much covered that.

01:23:18.000 You know darn well that something else happened at the World Trade Center that caused those buildings to collapse.

01:23:22.000 And of course, you know, we didn't even get into building number seven, which of course is the biggest glaring boo-boo that they made that day.

01:23:33.000 No plane hit that building and it's basically free fall speed too.

01:23:37.000 Dr. Roberts, I want to get back to something you said earlier about impeaching the President.

01:23:44.000 You have a recent article from LewRockwell.com entitled, U.S.

01:23:48.000 Hypocrisy Reaches All-Time High, and it's about U.S.

01:23:52.000 Army Lieutenant Aaron Watada.

01:23:54.000 Can you give us a little synopsis of what your position is on what that Lieutenant Aaron Watada is doing, what he's doing, and why?

01:24:05.000 I'll be glad to.

01:24:05.000 First, Bob, let me say that one of the reasons that people don't know anything about 9-11 is that the scientific and engineering community can't afford to say what they think.

01:24:18.000 There's hardly a physicist anywhere in the United States, certainly not in universities, whose career is not dependent on government grants.

01:24:28.000 And so if they come up and say that the government's story is a load of crap, They've ended their careers. 0.72

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01:24:38.000 Stephen Jones is an example.

01:24:40.000 The federal government forced BYU to retire him early or they would cut off federal funding for the university.

01:24:47.000 Now, you also have the same problem with engineering firms.

01:24:51.000 An engineering firm, many of them are dependent on government contracts and all the rest of them are dependent on people's opinion of them.

01:24:58.000 If you've got the population brainwashed into thinking that A handful of Arabs ran planes and aluminum, light aluminum planes, and these structures are knocking down.

01:25:08.000 And an engineering firm says, well, this couldn't have happened.

01:25:12.000 It's not scientifically possible.

01:25:13.000 And everybody thinks, oh, he's a traitor.

01:25:15.000 He's on the side of the terrorists.

01:25:16.000 And that goes your business.

01:25:17.000 So this is the reason they get away with it.

01:25:20.000 Now, to get to Lieutenant Lutata, what this officer concluded, and I think he's correct, is that under the Nuremberg Standard, the war crimes tribunals that were used to sentence the Germans to death, he cannot the war crimes tribunals that were used to sentence the Germans to death, he cannot order his troops into a combat in Iraq when the war itself is a

01:25:50.000 And if he does, then he is complicit And would be guilty under the Nuremberg Standard.

01:25:57.000 I don't think the lieutenant expects that if he were to do that he would actually find himself in a war crime trial.

01:26:06.000 I think he's doing it, he's sacrificing himself to make the point.

01:26:10.000 I think he could be just, he could have gone on and ordered his troops into battle and they could have killed all these people and he would have got away with it because Bush is getting away with it.

01:26:20.000 Because we're not going to Be defeated by Iraq and put on trial.

01:26:25.000 Right.

01:26:27.000 The victor gets to decide the law.

01:26:31.000 But he's doing it in a sincere, honest effort to make the point that this is an illegitimate war.

01:26:42.000 And if every officer abided by the international law that we established in Nuremberg, It kind of reminds me of what the old hippies used to say back in the 60's when I was a kid during the Vietnam War and unfortunately I think it rings true. 0.99

01:27:02.000 They used to say, hey man, what if they gave a war and nobody came?

01:27:08.000 What if the President of the United States declares an illegal war based on lies and everybody says no?

01:27:17.000 No, sorry.

01:27:18.000 That's illegal.

01:27:19.000 We're not going to do it.

01:27:19.000 You know, Lieutenant Watada seems to be the reincarnation of Specialist Michael New from back in the Bosnia days where he refused to wear a United Nations uniform.

01:27:33.000 He showed up as a United States soldier and he got bad conduct discharged because he refused to go under a U.S.

01:27:43.000 flag.

01:27:43.000 Yeah.

01:27:44.000 He was a mercenary under a foreign flag.

01:27:46.000 Yeah, so you know, I got news for Lt.

01:27:49.000 Aaron Watada.

01:27:50.000 The Michael New case is still going on.

01:27:54.000 It's still out there.

01:27:56.000 They're before the Supreme Court right now trying to get the Supreme Court to listen to Michael New's case.

01:28:02.000 And the interesting thing about Michael New is, to this day, although what happened to him was way back, what, 1995 or something like that, to this day, he has never been able to present We're on the march.

01:28:18.000 in court.

01:28:19.000 You know, they've been stonewalling him for 12 years.

01:28:22.000 So we've been trying to look out.

01:28:25.000 Okay, well, once again, are we coming up on another break?

01:28:28.000 I guess we are.

01:28:29.000 After the break, we'll be back again with Dr. Paul Craig Rohn.

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01:32:04.000 All right, that's Bob Dacey back for our last segment with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

01:32:09.000 And we don't need any thought control, and that's what the mainstream media seems to be like.

01:32:13.000 There's nothing but thought control.

01:32:15.000 We've been talking about several subjects with Dr. Paul Gregg Roberts.

01:32:19.000 We want to get into what's going on over on the other side of the world right now.

01:32:25.000 Iran seems to be In the sights of our imperious leader right now, Dr. Roberts, what is going on in your opinion with this impending attack on Iran? 0.95

01:32:40.000 Well, Bob, what's going on is a couple of things.

01:32:45.000 One is they're shifting the attention from Iraq.

01:32:51.000 To Iran, just like earlier, they shifted the attention from Osama Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein and Iraq.

01:33:00.000 You know, all of a sudden we started hearing, when they were talking about 9-11, it shifted from hearing about Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and the Taliban to 9-11 and Saddam Hussein and Saddam it shifted from hearing about Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and the Taliban Yeah, and all the bubbles thought that that was the same thing.

01:33:23.000 Yeah, and weapon and mass destruction.

01:33:25.000 And you still have now a significant percentage of Americans who think that Saddam Hussein is the one who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

01:33:32.000 So what they're doing now is we've just had the president's speech about this surge in U.S. troops in Iraq.

01:33:41.000 But despite this being the speech, the focus has already shifted to Iran because you listen to Bush, you listen to Cheney, Rice, the new Defense Secretary Gates So the National Security Advisor, Hadley, what they're all talking about is Iran, Iran,

01:34:00.000 So, in the President's speech, he has all these propagandistic statements about why we have to have these troops in Iraq and Iraq, but after you get just over half way, Iraq disappears and he says that succeeding in Iraq depends on addressing Iran and Syria.

01:34:22.000 In other words, it doesn't depend on the surge of troops to Iraq.

01:34:26.000 It depends on Iran and Syria.

01:34:28.000 And then he goes on to say that Iran and Syria, particularly Iran, are responsible for the insurgency in Iraq.

01:34:37.000 And Iran is the reason That our troops are getting killed. 1.00

01:34:44.000 You mean it has nothing to do with all the Iraqis that are irritated that we're there?

01:34:48.000 That's right.

01:34:49.000 So, in other words, of course it's preposterous on its face because the insurgency is drawn from the Iraqi Sunnis. 1.00

01:34:57.000 Iran is Shiite.

01:34:58.000 Explain that.

01:34:59.000 I read this article of yours, The Urge to Surge, and people, and I'm included, you know, you get these people confused.

01:35:05.000 You know, Sunni, Shiite, what?

01:35:07.000 So, explain that, what the difference is and why.

01:35:10.000 There are two big groups that split up in the interpretation of Mohammed and Islam.

01:35:18.000 And Iraq has a 60% Shiite population, 20% Sunni, 20% Kurd.

01:35:25.000 And it was the 20% Sunni ruling Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

01:35:31.000 So we went in and said, oh, well, and the Sunnis had always had to keep down the Shiites because they were like the Iranians. 1.00

01:35:41.000 They wanted a theocracy.

01:35:43.000 They wanted to be ruled by the Koran and not by a secular leader, which Saddam Hussein was. 0.59

01:35:51.000 So they have that animosity.

01:35:53.000 And the Shiites have not joined the insurgency because we were insisting on democracy.

01:35:59.000 They have 60% of the people.

01:36:01.000 That means they will have power.

01:36:03.000 So they haven't joined the insurgency.

01:36:06.000 It's been drawn from the Sunnis. 0.95

01:36:10.000 The insurgency against us is minor in terms of what's going on now. 0.92

01:36:14.000 It's mainly Sunnis and Shiites killing each other at a very high rate, several hundred a day, or either killed or wounded. 0.99

01:36:23.000 And the Iranians are allied with the Shia, the Shiites. 0.98

01:36:27.000 They would never arm the Sunnis, because the Sunnis are spending most of their time not fighting us, but killing Shiites. 1.00

01:36:36.000 So the notion that Iran has anything to do with this is absurd. 0.87

01:36:39.000 And yet they're telling this lie, and then to try to give some evidence for it, the other day they went and attacked, they invaded an Iranian consulate in northern Iraq, arrested the five Iranian officials, and claimed that they were supporting the insurgency and were involved in plots to kill Americans.

01:37:00.000 So they're still a propaganda lie.

01:37:02.000 Now why is Bush Yeah, what's the end game here?

01:37:06.000 I mean, you kind of wonder, well gee, if we're going to go attack, we attacked Afghanistan, then we turned it to Iraq, we attacked Iraq, and even though they didn't have any weapons, and you know, they weren't supporting Osama, and now we're turning it to Iran, where are we going to get these soldiers? 0.56

01:37:22.000 You know, we're running out of troops.

01:37:24.000 Guess what it is, Bob?

01:37:25.000 The reason they're going to attack Iran, there's several reasons. 0.96

01:37:31.000 I'll give you the I'll give you the Bush reason, the Karl Rove reason, and that is that they've been defeated in Iraq.

01:37:38.000 There's no prospect of winning there.

01:37:41.000 So they're shifting the attention to Iran.

01:37:42.000 What they'll do in Iran is they will bomb. 0.99

01:37:45.000 They're not going to send any troops in, because as you said, we don't have any. 0.64

01:37:48.000 They'll bomb Iran. 1.00

01:37:50.000 They will then announce they have wiped out Iran's nuclear weapons program. 0.60

01:37:55.000 This will make them heroes.

01:37:56.000 They'll say, ah, we've saved Americans from the threat.

01:38:00.000 of nuclear weapons and from the threat of Iran giving nuclear weapons to terrorists.

01:38:06.000 And they will declare themselves to be heroes.

01:38:10.000 The media, of course, the mainstream media will fall for it.

01:38:13.000 They'll all tell us how we've been saved from the mushroom cloud because the administration will claim that their attack took out a nonexistent, actually, nuclear weapons program.

01:38:26.000 But Americans won't know whether it exists today.

01:38:28.000 Anyway, you said something, I want to make sure that the listeners heard that.

01:38:32.000 Because you are in agreement, once again, with Scott Ritter.

01:38:37.000 He's written a book, I don't recall the name of it.

01:38:39.000 He says that Iran's nuclear program is nothing.

01:38:45.000 It's civilian, it's low-grade.

01:38:48.000 And that they're making up this same nonsense about Iran that they did about Iraq so they can go do the same thing again.

01:38:56.000 I mean, this is insane.

01:38:59.000 Exactly.

01:38:59.000 See, it's not just Scott Ritter.

01:39:00.000 It's the International Atomic Energy Agency.

01:39:03.000 Their inspectors, until recently, have been in there going all over everything.

01:39:07.000 And the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency says we can't find any clue, any evidence whatsoever of a weapons program.

01:39:17.000 Yeah, but Fox News, you know, Fox News says, ooh, they're going to get us, you know.

01:39:21.000 Of course, but Fox News is a propaganda arm of the Bush administration.

01:39:26.000 Bingo.

01:39:27.000 Now, let me give you the... That's Bush's thing.

01:39:30.000 Ah, look, I'm defeated in Iraq, I can't admit it, so I'll go attack Iran and claim victory. 1.00

01:39:36.000 And I'll bury my defeat in Iraq in the victory in Iran by claiming to have knocked out their nuclear weapons program. 0.99

01:39:44.000 So that's the propaganda I know what the American people get out of this, which is nothing, but what does Bush get out of all this?

01:39:53.000 I said, he gets to bury his defeat in Iraq with victory in Iran.

01:40:00.000 By murdering a bunch of people who can't hurt us. 0.99

01:40:03.000 Uh-huh, right. 0.97

01:40:05.000 Now, keep in mind that the neoconservatives and the Israeli government have been pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing for an attack on Iran.

01:40:15.000 And the reason they want to attack Iran is part of their planning document. 0.94

01:40:21.000 It's now more than a decade old.

01:40:22.000 It's available online.

01:40:25.000 Anybody can go get it, the Project for the New American Century site.

01:40:30.000 And their goal is to overthrow all non-US puppet governments in the Middle East in order to get rid of the Muslims that will not accept Israel's theft of Palestine and Israel's theft of the Golan Heights. 0.99

01:40:48.000 Okay, so you're saying that behind the scenes the Israeli government is pulling a lot of the strings here? 0.90

01:40:55.000 Oh yeah, hell yeah.

01:40:56.000 The Israel lobby is the most powerful lobby in the United States.

01:41:00.000 But I don't think you're allowed to say anything bad about Israel.

01:41:03.000 See, I don't think that's allowed, is it?

01:41:07.000 They've used the anti-Semite charge to keep them from being criticized, but the taboo is breaking down.

01:41:15.000 You had not long ago the two distinguished scholars who called attention to Israel's undue influence and control over our foreign policy.

01:41:24.000 We've had now Jimmy Carter's latest book pointing out that the Israelis are the source of the problem. 1.00

01:41:30.000 We had the Saudis who, toward the end of November, told our Vice President Cheney that Iran was not the source of instability in the Middle East.

01:41:38.000 Israel was. 0.89

01:41:39.000 And the way I figured it, it's kind of like every white is a racist by definition. 0.96

01:41:46.000 And so every non-Zionist settler is an anti-Semite by definition. 0.55

01:41:52.000 So everybody is anti-Semite, so it doesn't mean anything anymore to be called one.

01:41:58.000 Do you see what I'm saying? 0.80

01:42:00.000 If you're not an apologist for Israel, you're an anti-Semite.

01:42:03.000 That's the way it works.

01:42:04.000 It's kind of like a name you get painted with when you say anything against Israel.

01:42:09.000 They use it to try to...

01:42:11.000 Stop anybody from pointing out any facts.

01:42:14.000 So they make no distinction between the Israeli citizenry and the Israeli government.

01:42:20.000 It's according to this theory that Israel is perfect. 0.94

01:42:24.000 Well, actually, a tremendous amount of Israelis are called Antisemites.

01:42:30.000 My friends in the Israeli peace movement are all said to be Antisemites. 0.69

01:42:35.000 They just hate their own race, right? 0.99

01:42:37.000 They hate anybody who I don't think anybody has a right other than Zionist settlers. 1.00

01:42:47.000 Okay, so we have the distinction between a Zionist and a Jew.

01:42:52.000 There's a big difference there.

01:42:53.000 You want to elaborate on that?

01:42:55.000 Most of the intelligent Israelis, and the successful ones, they're prepared to live with the Palestinians. 1.00

01:43:02.000 The Zionists don't want there to be a Palestine, and so they've got these policies in effect which are essentially turning Palestinians into refugees from their own country.

01:43:13.000 And so they steal the land.

01:43:17.000 Israel never gave up the occupied territories like they were supposed to under all the UN arrangements.

01:43:23.000 And instead, they build settlements and they encroach and they take the lands that force Palestinians out. 0.92

01:43:30.000 Well, I understand that it's happened thousands of times where a representative from the Israeli government will knock on some poor Palestinian's door and say, hey, Bubba, this house you've been living in for a couple hundred years, it's going to be gone tomorrow, so you've got 24 hours to get out.

01:43:46.000 Yeah.

01:43:46.000 I think people wouldn't like that.

01:43:48.000 And of course, they'll come in and just knock the house down, whether you're in it or out.

01:43:54.000 And even if an American peace protester is standing in the way.

01:43:58.000 Right.

01:44:00.000 That's right. 0.90

01:44:01.000 They just ran her over and killed her. 0.98

01:44:02.000 That's exactly right.

01:44:03.000 Now, in this country, they have tremendous media power because Clinton allowed massive media concentration in the 90s, and the Jewish people have managed to be owners and controllers of most of this empire. 0.96

01:44:24.000 Plus, they have tremendous power through advertising contracts.

01:44:30.000 And so editors that say anything about Israel find out from the publisher that, you know, they've just pulled out 10 million advertising contracts.

01:44:41.000 So you see what I'm saying?

01:44:42.000 Everybody is in control.

01:44:44.000 That's how this Bill Kristol got the Time Magazine column the other day.

01:44:48.000 I'm absolutely certain that Time Magazine was promised tens of millions of dollars in advertising contracts if they would appoint Kristol.

01:45:00.000 A columnist.

01:45:00.000 Well, now, Crystal's never been right about anything.

01:45:02.000 There was a big article in the Iraqi Mountain News the other day pointing out all the absurd statements he made about the Iraqi war and the outcome and how easy, blah, blah.

01:45:12.000 And so the guy's been totally wrong about everything.

01:45:13.000 So how does he get a column in time?

01:45:16.000 Well, somebody had to buy it for him.

01:45:19.000 I'm absolutely convinced that's the way it works.

01:45:21.000 I mean, I was in journalism enough to see how people use the power to Advertise or threaten boycotts or whatever to control editorial policy and news reports.

01:45:34.000 Well, under this scenario you're describing, okay, so at the behest of the Israeli government, we go ahead and attack Iran so we can overthrow one of the governments that opposes Israel. 0.64

01:45:46.000 Okay, so we're still sitting in Iraq, we've nuked Iran or whatever we're going to do, bomb the snot out of them or whatever we're going to do to them. 0.99

01:45:55.000 Now what?

01:45:56.000 We're still stuck in Iraq.

01:45:57.000 That's not going away.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, listen, I don't know what, but you have to see, you have to get the difference between the reality and the propaganda.

01:46:08.000 And the propaganda can work for the administration, because they can say, we've eliminated the nuclear threat.

01:46:16.000 Seems like they've messed us around so much, so many times, it just might backfire on them.

01:46:20.000 Well, we can hope it does, but Then you have to say they're not smart enough to realize that in advance.

01:46:30.000 And of course, support the backfire would be great.

01:46:35.000 We could finally get him impeached and maybe even hand him over to the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague.

01:46:41.000 By him, do you mean him and his whole crew?

01:46:43.000 Yeah.

01:46:44.000 Well, good luck.

01:46:44.000 It doesn't much matter.

01:46:46.000 If one goes, everyone gets the message.

01:46:49.000 And everybody says, oh, if you impeach Bush, we'll have change.

01:46:53.000 You think if the President gets impeached that Cheney won't get the message?

01:46:57.000 I mean, everybody... All you've got to do is once.

01:47:01.000 But I think I can't predict what the outcome will be.

01:47:07.000 No one knows.

01:47:07.000 The administration is betting that Iran will not retaliate militarily.

01:47:12.000 You've got to be kidding.

01:47:14.000 No, because it makes a certain amount of sense.

01:47:17.000 If they don't retaliate, then they are another victim of American-Israeli aggression.

01:47:22.000 Another Muslim victim. 1.00

01:47:24.000 Do they actually think that they're not going to retaliate?

01:47:27.000 The anger seeps throughout the Middle East until none of our puppet governments are safe.

01:47:35.000 So the intermediate to long-run consequence of us attacking Iran is we lose Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates.

01:47:46.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:47:47.000 Yeah, it doesn't benefit the United States.

01:47:50.000 Iran's a 5,000-year-old country, like China.

01:47:53.000 Right.

01:47:54.000 They're not impatient.

01:47:55.000 They're not facing two more years.

01:47:57.000 I got two years to save my reputation.

01:47:59.000 Iran doesn't think like that.

01:48:01.000 So they can say, huh, they've attacked us.

01:48:03.000 Now, what'll happen?

01:48:04.000 If we sink the aircraft carriers and knock out the oil in the Middle East, they may nuke us. 1.00

01:48:12.000 Or they may nuke us harder if we've already nuked them.

01:48:16.000 And maybe the winning strategy is just to sit here and let the anger seep, because Pakistan has nuclear weapons, and our puppet there is shaky. 0.96

01:48:30.000 There have been a whole bunch of assassination attempts on him.

01:48:34.000 He doesn't really have the support of his own military.

01:48:38.000 If they fall, if he falls, then the Muslims have got the Pakistani nukes. 1.00

01:48:47.000 If Egypt falls, then Israel's got another hundred million hostile people right there on its border.

01:48:53.000 Because we buy Israel's peace with Israel every year with foreign aid every year. 0.75

01:48:57.000 So many billions of dollars every year.

01:49:01.000 And the guy in Egypt keeps the lid on so that the hostilities toward Israel don't break out.

01:49:08.000 You're talking about just a humongous cluster screw up all over the whole world because of this.

01:49:15.000 You can't predict what's going to happen.

01:49:18.000 In the short run, it can be a victory.

01:49:20.000 But if Iran doesn't react.

01:49:25.000 Well, we'll see what happens.

01:49:26.000 Dr. Paul Craig Robertson, I want to thank you very much for coming on the Alex Jones Show.

01:49:30.000 I appreciate it.

01:49:31.000 Good talking to you.

01:49:32.000 Well, Bob, I enjoyed talking to you.

01:49:34.000 You're a very pleasant guy to talk to.

01:49:36.000 I'd like to do it again sometime.

01:49:37.000 Alright, I appreciate it.

01:49:38.000 We'll be back after the break.

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01:53:11.000 All right, this is Bob Basie once again back substituting for Alex Jones on this 18th of January.

01:53:17.000 And at the last part of this second hour.

01:53:21.000 Interview with Dr. Paul Greg Roberts. 0.99

01:53:24.000 I'll tell you what, it seems as though these people are nuts. 0.93

01:53:29.000 You know, there's got to be a reason for all this, and it doesn't make any sense. 0.96

01:53:33.000 I mean, you're talking about risking Lord only knows what in the Middle East by attacking the Iranians. 1.00

01:53:42.000 Makes no sense to me.

01:53:43.000 I have an article here from the North American statesman on Monday.

01:53:50.000 Bush, no going back in Iraq.

01:53:53.000 Democrats hope to stop build-up.

01:53:56.000 This is from Ben Feller of the Associated Press.

01:53:59.000 Digging in for confrontation, President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney say they will not budge from sending more troops to Iraq, no matter how much Congress opposes it.

01:54:10.000 Democrats remain wary of appearing unsupportive of American troops.

01:54:14.000 And a defiant Cheney pointedly reminded lawmakers that Bush is Commander-in-Chief.

01:54:20.000 and I would have to say that yeah he's commander-in-chief in a war that he lied to get us into which was not declared which is the Constitution requires that a war be declared hadn't done it correctly since 1941 and of course you know he's the commander-in-chief of a big fat lie you know later on the article it says

01:54:44.000 When asked whether he owes the Iraqi people an apology for botching the management of the war, he said, not at all.

01:54:52.000 We liberated that country from a tyrant.

01:54:55.000 I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude.

01:55:01.000 Can you believe that?

01:55:03.000 We've gone over there, knocked the snot out of their whole country, busted up all their infrastructure, destroyed everything,

01:55:10.000 killed between a hundred and six hundred fifty thousand of their people mostly civilians the vast vast majority civilians screwed up everything for that country and he says the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude now what is this guy been sniffing up his nose what where do you get that kind of logic coming out of the mouth

01:55:39.000 of our imperious leader.

01:55:42.000 That absolutely doesn't make any sense.

01:55:45.000 Which, however, does make me want to think, well what I want to do for the rest of the show, I want to give you my take on President Bush's speech on Iraq and we want to take some phone calls.

01:55:59.000 The number is 1-800-259-9231.

01:56:05.000 That's 1-800-259-9231.

01:56:10.000 If you want to get involved here on the Alex Jones Show, We're going to be taking calls for the rest of the hour as I go through some of this speech that our Imperious Leader made the other day, telling us how glorious everything is going to be when we get the more troops in there.

01:56:29.000 It's going to fix Everything isn't it so that's what we're gonna do for the rest of the hour and Should be fun.

01:56:38.000 Okay.

01:56:39.000 I want to go through this some of this speech Arcada terrorist and Sunni insurgents blew up one of the holiest shrines in Shia Islam and The result was a vicious cycle of sectarian violence that continues today so one of President Bush's claims of course is that Al Qaeda is out there And Sunnis are out there just blowing stuff up.

01:57:04.000 And when we get back from the top of the hour, we're going to remind everybody of at least one case where it wasn't them.

01:57:14.000 So, again, this is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones, and we'll be back after a very short break.

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01:57:53.000 You want answers?

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01:58:00.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:06.000 Okay, once again, this is Bob Dacey on the third hour of the Alex Jones Show, substituting for Alex, who's going to be back next week.

01:58:13.000 The website's Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, and JonesReport.com.

01:58:21.000 And because I'm sitting here, you also want to go to JBS.org.

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01:58:34.000 Before the break, I was quoting the president saying how all these al-Qaeda people are blowing stuff up in Iraq.

01:58:43.000 I'd like to remind you that back in September of 2005, this is mainstream news.

01:58:50.000 This is not anything but mainstream news.

01:58:53.000 Two British SAS operatives were caught dressed as Arabs in a car, planning to bomb a police station or something like that, or the public square in Basra, and they got caught.

01:59:09.000 You know?

01:59:10.000 They got arrested.

01:59:12.000 They got thrown in the jail, and the British sent their whole army to break them out.

01:59:17.000 I mean, they had wigs on, you know, they had Arab dress, everything.

01:59:22.000 The car had all kinds of ammunition in it, and I think it was also booby-trapped or whatever.

01:59:28.000 I mean, it had... Give me a break!

01:59:30.000 You know, the fact of the matter is that there was a long history of the elites using their operatives to make up

01:59:40.000 attacks and to inflame problems and blame it on somebody else so when the president of the United States the decider in chief says that who was blowing up who you really just can't believe it I mean they got caught red-handed you know British operatives dressed as Arabs stirring up trouble so please you know when you do that you just lost it right there later on in his speech

02:00:10.000 Our imperious leader says, where mistakes have been made, the responsibility rests with me.

02:00:17.000 Well, sir, if the responsibility for the mistakes we've made in Iran rests with you, then you need to check yourself into the nearest jail.

02:00:27.000 I mean, what a huge mistake to deliberately invade a country based on a humongous cacophony of complete and total made-up lies, and then have 3,000 plus Americans die for your lies.

02:00:43.000 I mean, people just don't seem to understand.

02:00:46.000 They don't grasp what that means, that the leaders of the United States would concoct A big fat lie and go get a bunch of us killed for some geopolitical aim of theirs. 0.89

02:01:03.000 It's so immoral, it's so obscene, it's so disgusting that I don't know what the words are for it. 0.94

02:01:12.000 I really don't.

02:01:13.000 I think, of course, treason really fits, but it just doesn't sound good enough.

02:01:20.000 It just doesn't.

02:01:20.000 Alright, I understand we have a couple of callers here on the line.

02:01:25.000 Dave, are you there?

02:01:27.000 Yes, I am.

02:01:28.000 I'm going to turn the speakerphone on.

02:01:29.000 All right, Dave.

02:01:30.000 This is Dave from Illinois.

02:01:31.000 You're on the Alex Jones Show and you're listening to a whole bunch of people.

02:01:34.000 Are you nervous?

02:01:36.000 Oh, I have been, but I'm not for some reason.

02:01:39.000 Well, you shouldn't be because I'm not nervous and I'm sitting here in a room all by myself and I can't see any of them and neither can you.

02:01:44.000 What do you got going on?

02:01:45.000 As Paul Craig Roberts said, you seem like a nice man to talk to.

02:01:51.000 I enjoyed that segment, by the way.

02:01:53.000 I was a little disappointed through three-fourths of it because I didn't hear Israel mentioned and I think, you know, obviously that Israel is the thrust of all this and supporters of Israel.

02:02:05.000 We did bring it up in the last segment there.

02:02:07.000 We talked about it pretty good.

02:02:09.000 Yeah, that was good.

02:02:10.000 And that's the reason we went to war in 1991 with Iraq. 0.96

02:02:13.000 That was pushed by Zionists and You know, we encouraged, we gave false information to Saddam Hussein to invade. 0.97

02:02:25.000 Exactly.

02:02:26.000 Dave, the break is coming up.

02:02:27.000 I'm going to hold you over until we get back from the break, and then we'll go into what you want to talk about.

02:02:32.000 Back after the break.

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02:05:57.000 Okay, Bob Dacey back again for Alex Jones and we were talking to Dave in Illinois before the break.

02:06:03.000 Dave, what do you got in your mind?

02:06:05.000 Well, just a few interesting facts here.

02:06:09.000 When we did go to war in Neil Bush was under indictment, Silverado Savings and Loan under criminal indictment.

02:06:19.000 That all went away once George Bush decided to attack Iraq.

02:06:26.000 And another, just doing some arithmetic here, there's been at least 500,000 Iraqis killed, and we have spent at least $500 billion, which is $500,000 million.

02:06:34.000 at least $500 billion, which is $500,000 million.

02:06:40.000 That translates into a pretty inefficient kill.

02:06:44.000 It's cost America.

02:06:48.000 It hasn't cost American taxpayers because we borrowed the money.

02:06:51.000 It will cost our children and grandchildren if it ever paid back. 0.99

02:06:56.000 It will cost a million dollars apiece to kill these people. 1.00

02:07:00.000 Wow, that's pretty bad. 1.00

02:07:03.000 Yeah.

02:07:04.000 And then I'm concerned too, obviously, of the consequences of Obama and Iran.

02:07:09.000 Um, you know, we're going to be pushed into it because Israel is saying, if we don't do it, they're going to do it with nuclear weapons that have been provided to them by the United States.

02:07:20.000 Um, and I think, you know, there's a possibility of myself, my, my children, my grandchild, um, you know, I mean, just speaking purely, this is wrong, everything is all wrong, but speaking purely selfishly.

02:07:37.000 This is very dangerous right now, and it's not even being talked about.

02:07:40.000 I mean, this could be the final days.

02:07:44.000 Well, I'll tell you what, Dave.

02:07:46.000 Thank you for the call.

02:07:47.000 I appreciate it.

02:07:50.000 That doesn't transpire.

02:07:51.000 I really do. 0.67

02:07:52.000 We don't know when the final days really are, but we do have a madman puppet at the helm of the U.S.

02:08:00.000 government right now, and somebody else is yanking his strings.

02:08:03.000 And I hope that up at the levels higher than our imperious leader, they decide that it's not a good time to start World War III.

02:08:12.000 They screwed everything up bad enough.

02:08:15.000 I was just handed an article That was on PrisonPlanet.com back in February 2006.

02:08:22.000 I was talking about all this, our president telling us that one of those moths got blown up and that's why all these people are out there killing each other and that's why we have a civil war.

02:08:34.000 Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern believes that there is a good case to be made that our operatives blew that moth up.

02:08:44.000 To get, you know, to get their little civil war going.

02:08:49.000 He says, there's lots of evidence that the government in the past has used these things for its own purposes for overthrowing governments as it did in Iran in 1953 and Guatemala in 1954.

02:09:00.000 The Gulf of Tonkin was a little different.

02:09:02.000 LBJ did deceive Congress and the war went on for seven years.

02:09:05.000 That's Ray McGovern.

02:09:07.000 And, you know, the question is, you know, who benefits, you know?

02:09:13.000 Uh, certainly isn't the Iraqi people.

02:09:15.000 Uh, Kevin Smith was telling me that the Shias and the Sunnis were holding hands after that loss blew up, saying, hey, we didn't do this. 1.00

02:09:21.000 We're not going to go to war over this.

02:09:23.000 But, gee, that's happening anyway.

02:09:25.000 And again, I wonder whether that had anything to do with all these British officers were running around, uh, uh, dressed as Arabs, um, with explosives in their car.

02:09:33.000 Hmm.

02:09:33.000 You do kind of wonder.

02:09:36.000 Okay.

02:09:36.000 We have, um, Looks like Sam in Virginia is up here next.

02:09:42.000 Sam, are you there?

02:09:42.000 Is Sam there?

02:09:45.000 I guess we don't have... Sam, are you there?

02:09:50.000 Okay, we're gonna move on.

02:09:52.000 Sam must have hung up.

02:09:53.000 Okay, we got John in Arizona.

02:09:55.000 John?

02:09:56.000 Hello, how are you today?

02:09:57.000 Oh, I'm doing just fine.

02:09:59.000 What's on your mind, John?

02:10:00.000 Well, I wanted to talk about the current situation in Iraq and possibly Iran here.

02:10:06.000 I think their ultimate goal is this complete occupation of the entire Middle East to bring the power of the Antichrist. 0.99

02:10:17.000 And I think that they need to get this war started in Iran to actually start World War III or IV, whatever you want to call it. 0.95

02:10:27.000 I have currently read Jack McLam's newsletter.

02:10:29.000 I don't know if you know Jack very well.

02:10:31.000 I know who he is, yeah.

02:10:32.000 From aid and abet police and military against the New World Order.

02:10:36.000 And he said that the international bankers have already had this war plan for many years in the making, and this is their ultimate goal.

02:10:48.000 This is their third chance here of bringing in the New World Order within the last hundred years. 0.94

02:10:55.000 Well, the one thing that these people, the Arabs, have in common with other Other some other people is that they don't want a new world order. 1.00

02:11:04.000 They do not want to be a subset of the world government.

02:11:07.000 I don't think they like that too much.

02:11:09.000 I don't think there are any Boy Scouts themselves either, but you can't blame them for wanting to maintain their or try to obtain their national sovereignty.

02:11:19.000 Oh yeah, I totally agree with you.

02:11:22.000 They are actually fighting the new world order.

02:11:25.000 Just like Alex says, they're actually using our military and our superior power To bring in the New World Order and that consists of taking over the entire Middle East and some of the countries south of here like Venezuela and Argentina and those that are not participants in the One World Government and New World Order and therefore they're demonized in our media.

02:11:53.000 Well, that's true.

02:11:54.000 Now, John, thank you very much for your comments.

02:11:57.000 I appreciate that.

02:11:58.000 The thing that I want to point out, and this may differ from what a lot of other people think, but he talked about Venezuela and Hugo Chavez.

02:12:10.000 I think that was what he was alluding to.

02:12:11.000 Hugo Chavez is doing a tremendous job down there stopping the free trade area of the Americas.

02:12:21.000 In that way, he is fighting the New World Order.

02:12:24.000 However, the guy ain't your mama. 1.00

02:12:28.000 He is not a good guy either.

02:12:30.000 You know, just because he is opposed to President Bush doesn't make him your mama.

02:12:35.000 It doesn't make him a good guy.

02:12:37.000 He's a Marxist commie.

02:12:38.000 You know, let's face it.

02:12:39.000 He's not our friend either.

02:12:42.000 So, it's one of these weird politics makes strange bedfellows things.

02:12:47.000 Okay, let me go on with this speech a little bit before I take the next call.

02:12:50.000 I've got, who do I got up next?

02:12:53.000 I've got Ron in Canada up in a minute and Fred from Philly.

02:12:59.000 But before I talk to them, y'all guys hold on there for a little bit.

02:13:03.000 I want to read a little bit more of our Imperious Leader's speech.

02:13:08.000 My national security team, he says, we consulted With distinguished outside experts.

02:13:14.000 He talks about the Iraq Study Group and James Baker and Lee Hamilton.

02:13:19.000 You know, again, it's all dog and pony show.

02:13:22.000 James Baker is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

02:13:26.000 Lee Hamilton is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

02:13:29.000 I mean, give me a break.

02:13:30.000 You know, it's all for show.

02:13:34.000 It's all, it's a load of Horse feathers to dump on the American people so that they will be pacified, so to speak. 0.97

02:13:43.000 It's all, it's all phony.

02:13:45.000 It's all dog and pony.

02:13:48.000 And then he says this, the most urgent priority for success in Iraq is security.

02:13:53.000 Hey, whatever happened to democracy for the people of Iraq, Bush?

02:13:57.000 Whatever happened to that, huh? 0.95

02:13:58.000 Of course, that was a lie, too, after the weapons of mass destruction thing went away, and the link to Osama bin Laden turned out to be false, and, oh, we've got to give democracy to the Iraqi people by killing half a million of them. 0.55

02:14:11.000 Oh, yeah, well, I guess that went away, too, didn't it, President Bush?

02:14:14.000 And now the most urgent priority for success in Iraq is security.

02:14:19.000 What about the hearts and minds, Mr. Bush?

02:14:21.000 Remember you were going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people?

02:14:26.000 Oh yeah, too late.

02:14:28.000 You know, we had the Abu Ghraib prison thing, which y'all let out.

02:14:33.000 to make sure that we wouldn't win their hearts and minds and then of course remember the famous video of the American tank running over the little Iraqi car because there was a few sticks of firewood on top of it and American soldiers shot the thing up with their pistols and then they ran over it with an Abrams tank backward and forward and Every Arab in the whole world has seen that video of the U.S.

02:14:57.000 military doing that to some poor Iraqi cab driver and his family.

02:15:03.000 Remember that?

02:15:03.000 Remember that, Bush?

02:15:05.000 What happened to the hearts and minds?

02:15:07.000 I guess it kind of, when you blew Fallujah off the map, Couple years ago, that didn't help matters either.

02:15:15.000 So I guess the priority went from weapons of mass destruction to Al Qaeda terrorists and Osama Bin Laden.

02:15:22.000 Nope.

02:15:24.000 Oh, democracy.

02:15:25.000 Nope.

02:15:26.000 Nope.

02:15:27.000 Hearts and minds.

02:15:28.000 That didn't work either.

02:15:29.000 And so now the urgent priority for success in Iraq is Security.

02:15:37.000 And part of his effort, he's going to have some military commander and some national police and the Iraqi army and they're going to go door-to-door!

02:15:44.000 Ha ha ha!

02:15:45.000 I'm not going to lie, this and the conducting patrols and setting up checkpoints and going door-to-door to gain the trust of Baghdad residents.

02:15:54.000 Oh, give me a break!

02:15:56.000 Checkpoints and going door-to-door, that'll make everybody trust you, won't it, Mr. President?

02:16:01.000 Okay, we have, uh, coming up next we have I think that's Ron in Canada.

02:16:06.000 Did I read my old riding rack?

02:16:09.000 Ron, are you there?

02:16:10.000 Yeah, I'm here.

02:16:11.000 First off, I just want to say thanks for you guys doing all that hard work.

02:16:14.000 You're winning the battle.

02:16:15.000 It might be slowly, but hey, a win's a win.

02:16:19.000 I wanted to talk about that watch list.

02:16:21.000 I was caught the news.

02:16:23.000 I don't watch a lot of the CNN, but every once in a while I'll spend, you know, a couple minutes on it.

02:16:27.000 Okay, what's a watch list?

02:16:29.000 Well, they're talking about, you know, this border stuff, right?

02:16:32.000 Now you need to have a stinking passport in order to go anywhere. 0.62

02:16:35.000 I don't have a passport. 0.97

02:16:36.000 I'm not going to get a passport.

02:16:38.000 It's not saying I don't want to visit you guys in the States.

02:16:39.000 It's, I don't want a passport.

02:16:41.000 But this watch list, how big is the list going to get?

02:16:44.000 You know, like with Alex Jones going over to the UK there, they added him to the troublemaker list.

02:16:50.000 Does that put him on the watch list?

02:16:51.000 Does that mean he can't travel to Canada anymore?

02:16:54.000 You know, these are certain questions that I just think you're wrong.

02:16:58.000 You must have your purpose.

02:16:59.000 You have to have your purpose.

02:17:02.000 That's exactly it.

02:17:04.000 My second comment, also I don't really want to talk about Iraq.

02:17:07.000 I saw that video though of the tank going over there.

02:17:11.000 They're just onroids.

02:17:12.000 A bunch of meatheads. 0.97

02:17:14.000 I want to talk about UNESCO. 0.70

02:17:16.000 United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization.

02:17:20.000 Make sure people know what that is.

02:17:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:17:23.000 I didn't really understand the land grab thing until I actually started watching some of your guys' footage.

02:17:28.000 And then I was looking at getting some land, hopefully, in Jasper area down there.

02:17:33.000 Ron, you're going to have to hang on a minute over the break because this break is coming.

02:17:37.000 And we'll be right back with Ron from Canada.

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02:21:51.000 Tracy, substitute for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show on the Genesis Communications Radio Network.

02:21:57.000 And we've been talking to Ron in Canada.

02:22:00.000 He's still there.

02:22:01.000 Yeah, I'm still here.

02:22:03.000 Alright, go ahead.

02:22:04.000 So if I can moan and complain about UNESCO a little bit there.

02:22:08.000 I was doing some research on this land that we were looking at close to Jasper and I found out that, well first I found out that UNESCO has got Jasper Park under their belt.

02:22:18.000 Not only that, but they, out of Canada, I think Alberta's got hit the hardest by UNESCO grabbing parks.

02:22:24.000 Yeah, it's the end of Canada.

02:22:25.000 We're talking about UNESCO going around grabbing pristine areas, right?

02:22:29.000 Oh yeah, yeah, like that's the reason I wanted to move out there.

02:22:32.000 I don't want to be in the city anymore.

02:22:33.000 I don't want to be one of these guys, you know, having to punch a clock and stuff.

02:22:37.000 I'd rather, you know, do something in camping or outdoors or outfitting or whatnot, and that's where my dream started.

02:22:44.000 But just outside of Jasper there, they have a mining coal operation going on that I think it's an American company called Shevet, but they've hired local guys from Hinton and the area surrounding there and they're doing the top of the land when they do the coal mining that way, but they're having a lot of problems because the area they have is shrinking so quickly.

02:23:08.000 They're just going through it so fast.

02:23:10.000 And unfortunately, on all sides of them is protected land.

02:23:14.000 Well, guess who's on the BC side?

02:23:16.000 Jasper. 0.98

02:23:17.000 So if UNESCO has Jasper, do you think it's possible that maybe not next year, maybe not five years, but down the road they're going to let these stupid miners come in and strip away all the clean and, you know, like it just It upsets me quite a bit. 0.95

02:23:34.000 Well, I'll tell you what, that is an issue that I really don't know much about.

02:23:37.000 As far as UNESCO, that's interesting.

02:23:40.000 It must be under their scientific deal, scientific organization.

02:23:45.000 UNESCO is mainly about education, or should I say propagandizing the children of the world to go kiss the UN somewhere, you know what I'm saying?

02:23:54.000 I do.

02:23:54.000 If you did want to look up a bit more, just search, uh, Making Mountain Park a Reality.

02:23:59.000 It's a website that I found when I was searching for maps about where I want to build my future home.

02:24:04.000 And I started looking.

02:24:06.000 It's an old, old city.

02:24:07.000 Well, not city.

02:24:08.000 A little town back in about 1910.

02:24:11.000 They started coal mining out there.

02:24:13.000 Well, 1950 they went up.

02:24:14.000 They kicked everybody out.

02:24:16.000 A couple of months later, down go their houses, of course, and now currently, like, I just stumbled upon it, and it's just so shocking that they went through all that land so fast.

02:24:26.000 Then, now that they've reconditioned the land, they build a little waterfall over there, because that's just got tons of rivers and waterway through it.

02:24:33.000 Sounds like that biodiversity treaty stuff.

02:24:36.000 I don't know.

02:24:38.000 Well, that's just one.

02:24:39.000 Go ahead.

02:24:40.000 I was wondering about that Chevette company, if that would be an American company that's working out there, like, would UNESCO eventually be able to give them the right to, you know, maybe not, if they can't go east, if they can't go, you know, a little bit northeast or southeast, would they be allowed to just cross the border there into BC and UNESCO says, yeah, come on, come on, mine and Jasper, it's okay.

02:25:03.000 I have no idea, but that sounds like an interesting topic for another day.

02:25:06.000 Ron, thank you very much for the call.

02:25:08.000 I appreciate it.

02:25:08.000 Have a good day, sir.

02:25:10.000 Okay, I want to get back to this Bush speech on the Iraq War here, because he said a lot of other neat things in here.

02:25:18.000 One of the things he said is this.

02:25:22.000 If the Iraqi government does not follow through on its promises, it will lose the support of the American people, and it will lose the support of the Iraqi people.

02:25:31.000 Okay, so President Bush, how do you lose something that you don't have?

02:25:36.000 These Iraqi people hate our guts. 1.00

02:25:40.000 Got it? 0.99

02:25:41.000 They didn't.

02:25:41.000 See, they don't like the fact that we invaded their country, we killed half a million of them, and we won't leave.

02:25:46.000 See, they don't like that.

02:25:49.000 That public government you set up is not the Iraqi government.

02:25:52.000 They don't have a government.

02:25:54.000 You destroyed it, such that it was, and we cannot lose the support of the Iraqi people because they are all shooting at us. 1.00

02:26:02.000 They don't like it, you see.

02:26:05.000 And he says, a successful strategy for Iraq goes beyond military operations.

02:26:10.000 Ordinary Iraqi citizens must see that military operations are accompanied by visible improvements in their neighborhoods and communities.

02:26:19.000 And what that means is, and there was an article in the paper about it here locally in Austin, that they're going to go hire a bunch of people to paint their schools and sweep their streets.

02:26:26.000 I'm not kidding.

02:26:28.000 That's part of the plan.

02:26:31.000 Okay, next up we have Fred in Philadelphia.

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02:26:35.000 Hi, Bob.

02:26:36.000 Hey, what's going on in Philly?

02:26:37.000 That's where my wife is from. 1.00

02:26:39.000 Yeah?

02:26:40.000 Yeah, you know, Queen Lane and Schoolhouse Lane and Shelton Avenue and all that stuff, you know?

02:26:46.000 Yeah.

02:26:48.000 I want to bring up something very serious.

02:26:51.000 Actually, two things.

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02:26:59.000 All the media coverage in print that I have seen has been a complete reversal of the facts.

02:27:09.000 It's been pure propaganda.

02:27:10.000 There's been actually a revolution in that province.

02:27:15.000 Hey, when we get back from the break, because we've got one coming up, I want you to detail that.

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02:31:12.000 Alright, this is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones on the Alex Jones Show on the Genesis Communications Radio Network and yeah, we do need our own personal Jesus because we're in a world of hurt right now.

02:31:24.000 We're talking with Fred in Philly.

02:31:25.000 Fred, I want you to get specific.

02:31:27.000 Are you talking about the same police station attack that I was talking about earlier in the show with Dr. Roberts?

02:31:32.000 Yes.

02:31:32.000 Actually, there's two parts of that story, though.

02:31:35.000 You said in June 2005, did you say that was the start of a lot of trouble in that area having to do with British covert action in Basra?

02:31:49.000 Yeah, we had the two British SAS agents that got caught dressed as Arabs, yeah. 0.99

02:31:55.000 Okay, they were convicted locally.

02:32:00.000 They were then held in the jail in that locale.

02:32:07.000 I don't know if it was in the police station or it was close by.

02:32:09.000 And the British then stormed that That facility to free them, but they lied about it in the media.

02:32:24.000 Yeah, that's what they do.

02:32:26.000 Right, now fast forward to December 22nd, 2006.

02:32:36.000 British and Iraqi troops free 100 in police station.

02:32:42.000 The ostensible reason was they wanted to prevent It's re-occupation by criminal enterprises.

02:32:49.000 That British spokesman said, this is pure nonsense.

02:32:51.000 There's been a revolution in that province.

02:32:55.000 The governor of that province is vehemently against the British.

02:33:00.000 The central government, what you call the central government under Maliki, it hasn't even been able to remove that governor.

02:33:11.000 So what was the real reason for that?

02:33:13.000 There are facts that are just going against what the media is saying.

02:33:16.000 You can't get the story out about the conditions and about the opposition to the British in Basra.

02:33:24.000 Yeah.

02:33:25.000 So, there's just so many things.

02:33:31.000 You have a police station that went up, a giant police station that was just blown up.

02:33:38.000 The Basra's police commander condemned the operation, saying the British military did not give him and other police in the city enough notice.

02:33:51.000 The head of the Basra Security Committee was set up by Maliki as a compromise to quiet things down after the first upsurge in violence down there because of what you said.

02:34:04.000 He said this group had no Well, we know that the mainstream media is largely controlled, especially in the United States.

02:34:12.000 two governments competing down there you're not getting any of this certainly not getting it on the BBC they had a complete whitewash of this in June of 05 and I couldn't find out the facts from the BBC website they took them off the website well we know that the mainstream media is largely controlled especially in that states BBC seems to have a little bit more leeway but I know it It's just another chapter in a sad episode.

02:34:40.000 Fred from Philly, thanks for the call very much.

02:34:42.000 I appreciate it.

02:34:43.000 And we're going to go on now to David in Texas.

02:34:46.000 David?

02:34:46.000 Yes.

02:34:48.000 Are you there?

02:34:49.000 Yes, Bob.

02:34:50.000 Thank you.

02:34:50.000 I wanted to thank you for your hard work, along with Alex, although he's not there.

02:34:56.000 But I kind of wanted to take the discussion a little bit into a larger kind of perspective.

02:35:03.000 I think that sometimes what happens is that all of us And to focus on smaller issues, not smaller, but more of a finite kind of lens, if you know what I'm saying.

02:35:14.000 What are you specifically referring to?

02:35:17.000 Well, I'm kind of referring to the fact that, you know, everything we're bringing up, everything that you bring up, and many things that Alex brings up, refer to a kind of duping of the American people, a duping of the world, so to speak. 0.52

02:35:31.000 And I think that that to me is one of the The core issue is that we, as truth-seekers, as whatever you want to call us, we look at the disease many times, or we look at the symptoms and not the disease.

02:35:44.000 And I think that that is really the disease, is that our whole reality, when you really look at it, is just a series of lies over and over and over again.

02:35:53.000 One lie after another lie after another lie stacked on top of each other.

02:35:57.000 The Iraqi War is a lie. 1.00

02:35:59.000 Our government, if you really look at it, is a lie.

02:36:02.000 I mean, if you read the history of the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code, the War Powers Act, all of those things point to the fact that we've been living in this country under this idea that we're free, when in actual fact, we've never been free.

02:36:17.000 You read the Treaty of Paris signed in 1783.

02:36:21.000 It was signed by British agents.

02:36:23.000 It was signed by Benjamin Franklin.

02:36:26.000 Seeding land back over to the king after we supposedly won a war.

02:36:30.000 We've been paying tribute to that king ever since that day.

02:36:33.000 Yet we're told in our, you know, our propaganda machine public education, we're the land of the free, the home of the brave.

02:36:41.000 So we sit here as people, intelligent people, and we kind of quibble back and forth about whether Bush is really the commander-in-chief, whether he's following the Constitution.

02:36:52.000 Well, he's got a gold-fringed flag, right?

02:36:55.000 That means that he is the law of the land, and he's been the law of the land.

02:37:01.000 It's debatable whether it was 1933 or whatever it is.

02:37:04.000 It goes all the way back, some people say, to the Civil War.

02:37:07.000 We've been operating under this War Powers Act, and as I said, if you go even farther back, since 1783, the entire foundation of what we stand for as a nation is a lie. 0.91

02:37:18.000 David, listen, I want to thank you for your call.

02:37:21.000 I want to comment on what you just said.

02:37:24.000 People get into that fringe flag and all the deal with the King of England and all that stuff back there.

02:37:32.000 Listen, there's a lot of stuff about that and I really, really, really don't want to get into that ancient history stuff.

02:37:39.000 The fact of the matter is the United States when it was formed Was the freest country ever to be on the face of the earth and there is no doubt that in relative terms the American people have been for the last few hundred years the freest people on the earth.

02:37:57.000 The problem is that you have all these people go up to Washington and they keep passing laws and they keep passing laws and they keep passing laws and everything every time they pass a law What is a law?

02:38:11.000 It means you either have to do this or you can't do that.

02:38:13.000 That's what a law is.

02:38:15.000 Every one of them.

02:38:15.000 Either you must do this or you can't do that.

02:38:18.000 And when you have a couple hundred years of these control freaks going up into Washington, and also at the state level too, passing laws, you must do this or you can't do that, by definition that erodes our freedom.

02:38:33.000 I don't subscribe, really, to the fact that we've all just been a bunch of slobbering slaves all of our life, and we don't have freedom, and that there's nothing to defend.

02:38:41.000 I don't believe that.

02:38:42.000 I think that the Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land, and what's wrong with this country is that we don't follow it.

02:38:51.000 And the people at the top, this country is screwed up from the top down, not from the bottom up.

02:38:57.000 And I don't think, you know, that's where it is.

02:39:00.000 If you compare this country To a fish.

02:39:04.000 The fish is rotten at the head and healthy at the tail.

02:39:07.000 And at the grass roots so to speak.

02:39:09.000 And you can't fix it at the very top because the executive branch is just totally corrupt. 0.98

02:39:15.000 Totally criminal.

02:39:16.000 And the car was right.

02:39:18.000 We've been fed so many lies that an average American can't tell the difference between up and down in regard to that.

02:39:25.000 But as far as all those little Legal mumbo-jumbo from back then, you know, frankly it's boring to me.

02:39:35.000 It's like, oh well, we've never had a chance from the beginning.

02:39:38.000 We've always been slaves and we might as well just put up with it or what.

02:39:41.000 I don't know.

02:39:42.000 I just don't go into that fringe flag stuff.

02:39:47.000 Okay, we've got Paula from Florida up next on the Alex Jones Show. 0.99

02:39:51.000 Paula, are you there?

02:39:53.000 Yeah, hi, I'm here.

02:39:56.000 There's something that y'all need to understand about this whole mess, is that back in 1940, there was an actual article in the New York Times about the New World Order, and it's for the Jews. 0.61

02:40:07.000 And this is what this says, the New World Order is pledged to the Jews. 0.99

02:40:11.000 But anyway, the Jews are behind all of this. 1.00

02:40:13.000 They want to take over the whole world. 1.00

02:40:15.000 They want us dead. 1.00

02:40:16.000 They want the Arabs dead. 1.00

02:40:18.000 And they want to take over the world. 0.99

02:40:21.000 And you're talking about the British throne and all that.

02:40:24.000 Our President is from the British throne.

02:40:26.000 So is Al Gore, so is Bill Clinton.

02:40:28.000 I mean, they're all family.

02:40:31.000 But the thing is, is that we've got a fight on our hands.

02:40:34.000 And like right now, if we don't do something about this NAFTA program, there's going to be no jobs here, period.

02:40:41.000 They said, and McAfee Press just brought, they said, everybody's going to be laid off.

02:40:46.000 And the companies will have to shut down and go out of the country to survive.

02:40:50.000 Okay, we've talked about two subjects there.

02:40:52.000 Thank you for your call.

02:40:53.000 I want to address both of those things you just said.

02:40:57.000 Again, I hate to be confrontational, but I guess I'll have to be.

02:41:03.000 Whenever someone says the Jews are behind everything, it just makes me want to hurl, really.

02:41:11.000 Listen, the Jews are not some monolithic, all-seeing, all-encompassing little robot that all think alike. 1.00

02:41:21.000 You know, it's ridiculous. 1.00

02:41:24.000 Pinning everything on the Jews as some sort of an enemy, anybody that's Jewish as an enemy, is ridiculous. 0.98

02:41:33.000 There are thousands of very patriotic Jewish Americans that are fighting the New World Order. 0.93

02:41:40.000 There are a lot of Jewish people in Israel that are fighting the New World Order. 0.96

02:41:44.000 Why people can't distinguish between the Zionists and the Jews is beyond me.

02:41:52.000 It really is.

02:41:53.000 I keep hearing this stuff about the Jews all the time.

02:41:56.000 Well, the Jews done it. 1.00

02:41:57.000 You know, the Jews did everything else. 1.00

02:41:59.000 Well, the Jews are behind this. 1.00

02:42:01.000 You know, give me a break.

02:42:04.000 You know, the Jews are not all on the same page, okay? 1.00

02:42:09.000 You know, that's...

02:42:10.000 I just don't like hearing that kind of stuff.

02:42:12.000 And as far as the second thing you said, Paul, I agree with you.

02:42:16.000 Yeah, NAFTA is a big deal.

02:42:18.000 But it's not just the Jews.

02:42:20.000 It's not the Jews done it. 1.00

02:42:22.000 You know, it's the globalists and some of them have Jewish heritage.

02:42:26.000 OK?

02:42:27.000 I'll acknowledge that.

02:42:28.000 That's great.

02:42:28.000 Fine.

02:42:30.000 Some of these people claim to be Jewish.

02:42:32.000 You know, the Rothschilds, for example, in Europe.

02:42:36.000 Fine.

02:42:36.000 Great.

02:42:37.000 They're part of the problem.

02:42:38.000 But don't broad Yeah, I just wanted to comment about something, but I wanted to comment about Paula's comment.

02:42:45.000 You know, what about Vince Russo?

02:42:49.000 I got Jay in Los Angeles.

02:42:52.000 Jay, are you there?

02:42:54.000 Yeah, I just wanted to comment about something.

02:42:56.000 I wanted to comment about Paula's comment.

02:42:59.000 What about Vince Russo?

02:43:01.000 He's a good guy.

02:43:02.000 He's helping us out.

02:43:03.000 You mean Aaron Russo?

02:43:05.000 What did I say, Vince Russo?

02:43:06.000 I'm thinking personally.

02:43:07.000 Aaron Russo, yes. 0.97

02:43:10.000 No, but he's Jewish, he must be bad. 1.00

02:43:14.000 Has to be, by definition. 0.97

02:43:15.000 Exactly. 0.97

02:43:16.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

02:43:18.000 So yeah, it is, it's a ridiculous statement. 0.98

02:43:20.000 And I think sometimes that maybe the New World Order sends people like that in to try to discredit the whole thing. 0.92

02:43:26.000 That could be.

02:43:27.000 So what else you got on your mind?

02:43:29.000 They stepped up to the police state here in L.A.

02:43:33.000 and they did it right Underneath our noses.

02:43:35.000 We didn't even know they were going to hit us.

02:43:36.000 We were preparing for them to come straight ahead or whatever.

02:43:40.000 What are they up to now?

02:43:42.000 They shut down every single medical marijuana shop.

02:43:46.000 I know that might not seem important.

02:43:49.000 But in LA, that's like the gun to a Texas man.

02:43:53.000 Okay, wait a minute, let me get this straight.

02:43:55.000 Okay, so in Los Angeles you have medical marijuana shops?

02:43:58.000 Yes, and this is where the sick, people with AIDS, ex-veterans... Well, I know it has medicinal applications and there's always a big joke about, you know, get your doctor to prescribe some reefer and everything will be cool.

02:44:13.000 Everything will be nice, right?

02:44:14.000 So there were those people, those knuckleheads that were actually going out there and doing that that had nothing wrong with them and smoking.

02:44:20.000 Uh, but that's, you know, you can get that in the real medical industry.

02:44:23.000 I mean, or, you know, you get that at, you go to the hospital and get a guy to give you some Vicodin.

02:44:28.000 So they shut down the medical marijuana shop?

02:44:30.000 All of them, now you've got all these people, all these real God-fearing people that have to go to the third ring of hell to, uh, to get their stuff.

02:44:37.000 Well, I know that marijuana is a treatment for glaucoma, right?

02:44:42.000 Exactly, yeah, and a lot of pain, a lot of back pain, headaches, insomnia, the whole works.

02:44:47.000 But, uh, the whole point is, they said that, If you are within a thousand feet of a school or park or whatever, you can't sell medical marijuana.

02:44:55.000 I understand that, but for the last two years, three years, they've been alluding to these people, letting them think, yeah, you're okay, you're okay, and then boom, they hit them.

02:45:03.000 Now, I think the next thing they're going to do is say, people, individual people, within a thousand feet of so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so.

02:45:11.000 They've already done it with cigarettes.

02:45:12.000 So, they've really stepped it up here and there.

02:45:16.000 I mean, there's like almost riots here with these kids.

02:45:18.000 Well I know, this reminds me of something crazy that happened here in Texas.

02:45:25.000 Was it about last month?

02:45:26.000 I read an article in the paper that says that if you want to adopt a child, like do a foster care situation on a child, that pretty soon you're not going to be allowed to smoke in your own house.

02:45:37.000 That's right.

02:45:38.000 That's crazy!

02:45:39.000 Yeah, that's nuts.

02:45:40.000 That is absolute lunacy!

02:45:42.000 They're trying to do that here in L.A.

02:45:43.000 You can't smoke on the beach at all.

02:45:45.000 You can't smoke in certain cities.

02:45:46.000 Whole cities, you cannot have a pack of cigarettes... Well, I'll tell you something.

02:45:49.000 Nobody takes a second chair to me when it comes to hating cigarette smoke.

02:45:56.000 I can't stand it, you know?

02:45:58.000 But I'll tell you something.

02:45:59.000 What I can't stand even more is having somebody from the government telling me that I can't smoke in my own house if I feel like it.

02:46:08.000 Because it's going to hurt the children.

02:46:11.000 I mean, give me a break.

02:46:12.000 So that's what's going on in L.A., huh?

02:46:14.000 Yeah, so I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.

02:46:16.000 Maybe we'll hear more about this in the coming weeks, but I think it's going to get bigger than just this.

02:46:22.000 Well, thank you very much for the call.

02:46:24.000 I appreciate it.

02:46:25.000 Okay, what do we got now?

02:46:27.000 We got Joe in Georgia on the Alex Jones Show here.

02:46:32.000 Joe, are you there?

02:46:35.000 How you doing?

02:46:36.000 Pretty good.

02:46:37.000 What's up with you?

02:46:38.000 Good.

02:46:38.000 Thanks for filling in for Alex.

02:46:39.000 I appreciate it.

02:46:40.000 Well, I work real cheap.

02:46:42.000 I love the old shows and the repeats, too, because I miss a lot of it, but it's good to hear a live voice on the other end.

02:46:49.000 I just can't get over that Paula that called a few minutes ago.

02:46:54.000 It's the Jews! 1.00

02:46:56.000 You know, I listened to her.

02:46:57.000 There was a show right before Jeff Runts last night, and I'd like to find out who these guys are, because they were dissing Alex.

02:47:03.000 And they were saying, yeah, Federal Reserve bad, but then when he gets into all these other rants about, you know, just pay attention to what he's saying.

02:47:11.000 Take notes.

02:47:12.000 Hit the web.

02:47:13.000 Look these things up.

02:47:15.000 Everything is true.

02:47:17.000 What he's saying, everything is true.

02:47:19.000 That's absolutely true.

02:47:20.000 And the way he rants and raves, that's entertainment value.

02:47:23.000 I've called him and told him myself, that's entertainment value for me because I feel the same way.

02:47:29.000 I'll tell you something about what you said about the entertainment value.

02:47:33.000 I've known Alex for about nine years and yes, there's definitely, he uses entertainment value to attract an audience.

02:47:44.000 Oh yeah, I mean what he does is imitation.

02:47:47.000 There's no question about that.

02:47:49.000 There is no question about that.

02:47:50.000 However, anybody who knows Alex knows that the personality that he projects on the radio It may be somewhat exaggerated, but Alex Jones has an A-squared personality.

02:48:09.000 And that's no faking.

02:48:13.000 You be around this guy for very long.

02:48:15.000 The guy radiates energy.

02:48:18.000 It's weird.

02:48:20.000 Anyway, we're fixing to come up to a break right now, and we'll be back with you in just a minute.

02:48:28.000 Thank you.

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02:51:42.000 All right, welcome back to the last segment of the Alex Jones Show here on G.C.

02:51:57.000 We were talking to Joe in Georgia.

02:51:59.000 Joe, what's your central point you wanted to make?

02:52:01.000 Okay, I wanted to ask a question, actually.

02:52:04.000 And, you know, maybe the answer would have to be held over to Alex, or maybe you can elucidate on it.

02:52:10.000 I've listened, or I've watched Alex's presentation on the comprehensive annual financial reports and realizing that the government has bought into stocks and bonds across the board, and they're hiding the fact that they own tremendous amounts of stocks on the state, federal, local, And, yeah, state, federal, local level.

02:52:34.000 Well, it's hidden in plain sight.

02:52:35.000 They own all this stock.

02:52:36.000 They own all these businesses.

02:52:38.000 It's hidden in plain sight.

02:52:39.000 Yeah, does that mean we own these businesses, really?

02:52:42.000 Or does that mean that all of it's going to go into receivership when they fail the economy?

02:52:49.000 That's a good question.

02:52:50.000 I don't know the answer to it.

02:52:51.000 I do know that every year the government, either city, county, state, federal, does purchase more and more and more of what there is to invest in.

02:53:01.000 And that's a fact.

02:53:03.000 It's a fact.

02:53:04.000 It's sad because when you take it to its logical conclusion, eventually if they own everything, what do you call that?

02:53:12.000 Well, I mean, Benito Mussolini called it fascism. 0.89

02:53:15.000 Man, you can call it communism, fascism, whatever you want to call it, but whatever it is, it stinks.

02:53:20.000 The perfect integration of business and government.

02:53:23.000 Yeah, that's fascism.

02:53:24.000 You got it.

02:53:26.000 Okay.

02:53:26.000 Thank you very much for the call.

02:53:27.000 We're running out of time here.

02:53:28.000 I've got a couple other calls I want to get in here.

02:53:30.000 We've got Paul in Ohio.

02:53:32.000 Paul, you're on the Alex Jones Show.

02:53:35.000 You there?

02:53:35.000 Yeah.

02:53:36.000 Hi, Bob.

02:53:37.000 What's up?

02:53:38.000 Well, I just, you know, this Iran situation is really, really dangerous and, you know, it's scaring me enough to start reading the book of Revelation, I'll tell you, because, you know, I see a pale horse and its rider is death, you know, and that's what's scaring me. 1.00

02:53:53.000 Well, you got a bunch of, you know, I wish I could fully understand it myself.

02:53:58.000 I can't I'm a nice guy.

02:54:01.000 I'm a live and let live kind of guy.

02:54:03.000 I don't understand the process of murdering a whole bunch of people for geopolitical ends.

02:54:08.000 I don't get that.

02:54:10.000 I'm a live and let live kind of person.

02:54:12.000 So it's hard for me to grasp the insanity that's going on with George Bush at the titular head of this neocon oligarchy which has its grip on our country.

02:54:27.000 Yeah, well, I mean, these madmen are really pushing us to the brink of Armageddon, the way I see it.

02:54:32.000 I mean, if they're even talking about using nuclear weapons, I mean, that is just horrendous.

02:54:38.000 Well, they already use low-grade nuclear weapons and depleted uranium.

02:54:41.000 They spread it all over Iraq. 0.99

02:54:44.000 The poor man's nuke.

02:54:47.000 No, it's not the poor man's nuke.

02:54:48.000 It's the rich man's nuke.

02:54:49.000 It's a gift that keeps on giving forever, and it's beyond vile.

02:54:55.000 It's disgusting, and they do it anyway.

02:54:59.000 A person with morality and conscience cannot grasp this.

02:55:03.000 That's part of the reason why so many people turn it off.

02:55:06.000 They just can't handle it.

02:55:08.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I can't believe that any admiral of the U.S.

02:55:13.000 Navy would ever sail a carrier battle group into the Persian Gulf.

02:55:16.000 I mean, they're just sitting ducks in there, just waiting to be blown up.

02:55:20.000 Yeah, and also, you know, what the heck is a battle group going to go in there to fight an insurgency on the ground in Iraq?

02:55:27.000 What's a carrier battle group doing doing that?

02:55:29.000 It has nothing to do with that, now does it?

02:55:31.000 Okay, Paul Ohio, thank you for the call.

02:55:32.000 I've got one more call here.

02:55:33.000 Steve in Utah.

02:55:35.000 Steve, you better make it quick.

02:55:37.000 Hey, what's up?

02:55:37.000 I just had a comment on the Jews.

02:55:39.000 Hey, my step-mom's a Jew, and I don't think she's involved with the New World Order in any way, shape, or form.

02:55:45.000 It's the people with all the money, the ungodly amounts of money.

02:55:50.000 And then another thing, I like to call my local AM radio station, take notes from the Alex Jones Show and the Jack Fletch Show, take notes, call up and discuss what I heard earlier, and that's what the people listening to the show should be doing, and I encourage everyone to do so.

02:56:06.000 Take notes, listen to what you hear, call up your local AM radio station.

02:56:10.000 When they have a free talk, get on there and talk about... Alright!

02:56:13.000 Thank you very much, Steve, from Utah.

02:56:15.000 This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones.

02:56:16.000 I will see you tomorrow at 11 o'clock, Our Time Central.

Alex Jones Show - January 18, 2007

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