Alex Jones Show - 20070411_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 You are tuned in to the radio show that Congressman Ron Paul, the presidential candidate, has said is the most effective in the nation, that he has has said is the most effective in the nation, that he has gotten the biggest response from of any media appearance

00:00:44.000 In fact, he said the majority of people that come out to his events around the country, the majority of people, the majority supporting his campaign come from this show.

00:00:57.000 Now, I've been told that privately off-air.

00:01:00.000 As of a few months ago, but I'm not bragging here.

00:01:04.000 I'm letting you know that we're having an effect.

00:01:08.000 People are listening.

00:01:11.000 Remember Greg Pallas from the BBC?

00:01:14.000 Years ago, four years ago, when we broke the IMF World Bank documents, he said he got a bigger response from this show than the BBC report he did got, and the transcript of that interview was published in over 500 newspapers.

00:01:31.000 And that all happened because a listener transcribed the interview.

00:01:34.000 That happened because of you.

00:01:36.000 And all over the world, people woke up to the IMF and World Bank paradigm.

00:01:40.000 They already knew the bankers were running scams on them and paying their politicians to blow out the debts.

00:01:45.000 But it really crystallized.

00:01:48.000 And yes, ladies and gentlemen, we have confirmed that that one interview did send shockwaves across the planet.

00:02:00.000 Now, you never know when you're going to hit the zeitgeist.

00:02:02.000 We can put out a story here that I think is really important, that I think should be earth-shattering, gets, you know, a few hundred thousand readers, but that's it, really doesn't have much of an effect.

00:02:13.000 Or we can put out something that I don't think is that important and it goes supernova and gets a lot of attention.

00:02:19.000 Or I can do a report a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, and suddenly it gets a life of its own later.

00:02:27.000 I have to tell you it's a great weight on me to realize that we have this much responsibility and this many listeners are having this big of an effect.

00:02:34.000 And I am blessed.

00:02:35.000 I am humbled to be in this position.

00:02:36.000 I am honored.

00:02:38.000 And frankly, I know I don't do the best job.

00:02:40.000 Frankly, I know that I don't have all the answers.

00:02:42.000 Frankly, I know that I've got plenty of personality traits that aren't the best, but you know what?

00:02:49.000 I'm trying to do my best, and I try to research my facts, and I put one foot in front of the other, and my heart's in the right place, and I've asked God for guidance, and so that's why we're the most effective here.

00:03:02.000 And so I do want to just thank all of our AM and FM affiliates, shortwave affiliates, internet affiliates.

00:03:08.000 I want to thank everyone that supports us and has promoted InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:03:17.000 And all of you that have supported us and made this broadcast and the websites and what we do, the team here at the office that have made what we do here possible.

00:03:29.000 And that's why I've committed myself to work very long hours and to be dedicated in this fight because I know how important we are in the fight against the New World Order.

00:03:38.000 And that's why we're attempting to focus and streamline and be even more professional and more focused and more dedicated and more fearless in the fight against the Globalist.

00:03:49.000 So we're all on the same team together.

00:03:51.000 We're all in this fight together against the New World Order, and I am honored to be your radio talk show host.

00:03:59.000 I'm honored to be a writer for my website, so I'm just honored to be in the position that I am in.

00:04:05.000 We have two guests scheduled, as they say, today, coming up.

00:04:09.000 That Professor Walter F. Murphy, who was put on a no-fly list for giving a speech criticizing Bush, the expert on constitutional law.

00:04:20.000 Who pretty much is a middle-of-the-road or he's conservative on many issues like pro-life.

00:04:24.000 Just gave a speech saying we're turning into a police state.

00:04:27.000 The government said, it was televised, the government said, you know what?

00:04:31.000 You bet it's a police state.

00:04:33.000 It's an attempt to intimidate everybody to shut up.

00:04:36.000 And we've also got Commander Ted Muga, former U.S.

00:04:41.000 Naval aviator, retired Pan Am commercial airline pilot, a member of Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice.

00:04:48.000 Joining us to talk about 9-11 being an inside job.

00:04:51.000 We'll go right into the news on the other side and take your call.

00:04:54.000 Stay with us.

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00:08:08.000 I will take some calls in this hour.

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00:08:40.000 Just finishing up what I was saying in the last segment about Ron Paul coming on air yesterday.

00:08:44.000 What were his exact words?

00:08:48.000 The majority of the people that have supported him, the majority that have come up to him at events, on the streets, supporting his campaign, are this show.

00:08:59.000 This radio broadcast, this news transmission, this call to arms in the information war.

00:09:10.000 And I'm here to tell you that the lion's share of that credit does not go to myself, it does not go to this office.

00:09:18.000 It goes, when we're talking about this earthly plane, obviously all of the credit goes to God.

00:09:25.000 But on this planet, It goes to you, the listeners of this radio show, just an example of the effect you're having when you go to the message boards, when you go to MySpace, when you email your email list, when you put an InfoWars.com bumper sticker on a road sign, when you have a meeting at your school, when you start your own organization, your school or college,

00:09:54.000 The credit goes to you, ladies and gentlemen, for having that effect as we continue to move forward against the New World Order. 0.56

00:10:04.000 So know that your actions are bearing fruit.

00:10:09.000 And if other patriots and other patriot radio shows and other movements would learn how to focus on the information and on exposing the globalists and giving people wide-spectrum analysis of what's happening on the planet, And kept their eye on the prize, they would be just as effective.

00:10:29.000 But unfortunately, many people who are involved in the fight against the New World Order are doing it for ego, or they are unable to stay focused, or they start perseverating and obsessing on one racial group or one religious group, instead of just pointing out the structure itself and encouraging people to realize the power they innately have in themselves to take action.

00:10:53.000 Now we do have Commander Ted Muga, former U.S.

00:11:00.000 Naval aviator, retired Pan Am commercial airline pilot, and member of Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice, and Pilots for 9-11 Truth, to discuss the events of September 11th from the perspective of an experienced pilot.

00:11:15.000 Then we're scheduled, coming up in the third hour, to talk to the Professor of Jurisprudence Emeritus at Princeton University, Walter F. Murphy, about having his name added to the federal no-fly list after giving a televised speech that slammed President Bush's executive overreach.

00:11:37.000 So that is coming up later.

00:11:42.000 Right now, let me go ahead and get into the stack of news that I have here in front of me.

00:11:55.000 Two news stories from PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.net from the Watson brothers respectively.

00:12:01.000 Steve Watson, global warming bandwagon to reach fever pitch on 7-7-7.

00:12:07.000 The new order just loves dates.

00:12:12.000 Live 8 style concerts will once again see every attention-seeking celebrity come out of the woodwork to lecture on something they know little or nothing about.

00:12:21.000 And he goes through the fraud of global warming being man-made and the fraud solutions that they're offering.

00:12:28.000 Also another important article from Paul Watson on PrisonPlanet.com.

00:12:32.000 New victims family support search for 9-11 truth.

00:12:36.000 Parents of United Airlines 175 flight attendant Alicia Titus on quest to find out what really happened on September 11 and they've gone public now saying they believe 9-11 is an inside job.

00:12:52.000 So we have that report up.

00:12:53.000 Now let me just go through some of the news that I want to detail here now.

00:12:58.000 Professor who criticized Bush added to terrorist no-fly list.

00:13:01.000 I'm going to briefly go over that before he joins us later.

00:13:04.000 China Strikes out at U.S., launches trade cases, and of course that doesn't, in between our governments, that's all in the private run-for-profit World Trade Organization.

00:13:18.000 Security increases made Baghdad a deadlier battleground for U.S.

00:13:22.000 Remember when they put the surge into 14 different substations and undefended or lightly defended?

00:13:22.000 troops.

00:13:30.000 Substations in Baghdad, we said, well, okay, that'll massively increase troop deaths, and one week after they put out fake numbers claiming that it'd cause milk and honey to flow on the streets, that is not the case. 1.00

00:13:43.000 It's caused major increases in our troops dying, but like Henry Kissinger says, I don't agree with him, but he says that's what dumb, stupid animals are for. 1.00

00:13:51.000 The troops are dumb, stupid animals, and they're meant to die. 1.00

00:13:55.000 Ha ha ha, it's so funny. 1.00

00:13:57.000 Napoleon learned to pin a ribbon to your chest and you'll die for these scumbags. 1.00

00:14:01.000 Divide and rule, America's plan for Baghdad. 1.00

00:14:05.000 More on the war there.

00:14:08.000 And Iraqis face immense suffering, that from BBC.

00:14:11.000 And we have more numbers out confirming the British Lancet study of 600 plus thousand dead in the first three and a half years of liberation.

00:14:21.000 We're now four plus years into that.

00:14:23.000 On the environmental front, taxing us for breathing.

00:14:26.000 That's a mainstream headline.

00:14:28.000 Not just a car tax.

00:14:29.000 See, it's not going to stop there.

00:14:31.000 That's right, you're carbon dioxide.

00:14:33.000 You breathe as a pollutant.

00:14:36.000 But you exhale.

00:14:37.000 Actually, it's mother's milk to the plants and the plankton and the earth. 0.57

00:14:41.000 And it's a symbiotic relationship in that most of the atmosphere is not oxygen or carbon dioxide, the life-giving gases.

00:14:48.000 And so, all the major studies show that That actually it's better for life, that they have more oxygen and carbon dioxide instead of nitrogen and helium and other things.

00:14:58.000 Doesn't matter now, because they're going to tax it.

00:15:02.000 And you're going to thank them for it, or they're going to shove a machine gun down your throat. 0.81

00:15:07.000 Because they're the good guys, they wear black uniforms. 1.00

00:15:10.000 Just so sick. 0.97

00:15:12.000 And all you yuppies love it, so go ahead and love it. 1.00

00:15:15.000 We'll be going over that, going over all their hypocritical garbage. 0.99

00:15:19.000 The head of Ford said Bush almost blew himself up a few days ago. 0.99

00:15:23.000 We'll tell you about that out of the Detroit Free News.

00:15:26.000 It's up on my website right now.

00:15:27.000 But let me go ahead and detail these stories now for you.

00:15:37.000 An example of how we're under world government.

00:15:41.000 Every facet, our trade disputes are judged by secret tribunals.

00:15:47.000 Tell a yuppie that again, they'll tell you that doesn't exist.

00:15:49.000 There's nothing secret in government.

00:15:50.000 Government never did anything but lay golden eggs.

00:15:53.000 Never did wrong, never could do wrong.

00:15:55.000 Government created God and the Big Bang.

00:15:57.000 China strikes out as U.S.

00:16:00.000 launches trade cases.

00:16:01.000 Financial Times of London.

00:16:04.000 Yesterday, China reacted harshly to a United States decision to take it to the World Trade Organization over Piracy and copyright protection saying it would seriously damage bilateral cooperation and harm business ties.

00:16:17.000 The statement from China's Commerce Ministry followed the announcement by the U.S.

00:16:21.000 that it was lodging two cases in the WTO on intellectual property rights protection and market access for U.S.

00:16:27.000 movies, DVDs, books, and music.

00:16:30.000 So again, China certainly is engaging in mass bootlegging.

00:16:35.000 They certainly are blocking Hollywood Pentagon productions from making it into the country.

00:16:43.000 But does our government do what they do in the past and block their goods and make them stop that way, where our country calls the shots?

00:16:49.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:16:51.000 It has to be the World Trade Organization set up in 95, a private group with more power than our Congress over trade.

00:16:58.000 There's your global government right there, run by corporations.

00:17:02.000 Security increases made Baghdad deadlier battleground, New York Times And I mean, if you stick troops out of the green zone, the country's totally collapsed by design, but you stick them outside the green zone, in lightly defended little machine gun nests, they're gonna die!

00:17:23.000 And they are dying.

00:17:25.000 Nearly two months into the new security push in Baghdad, there has been some success in reducing the number of death squad victims found Crumpled in the streets each day, whatever that means, and while the overall death rate for all of Iraq has not dropped significantly, largely because of devastating suicide bombings, a few parts of the capital have become calmer, as some death squads have decided to lie low.

00:17:50.000 But there's little sign that the Baghdad push is a Accomplishing its main purpose, to create an island of stability in which Sunni Arabs, Shiite Arabs and Kurds can try to figure out how to run the country together.

00:18:01.000 There has been no visible move towards compromise on the main dividing issues like regional autonomy and more power sharing between Sunnis and Shiites.

00:18:11.000 Or Shiites and Sunnis. 0.98

00:18:13.000 And it goes on, for American troops in Baghdad though, has become a deadlier battleground, and then it just goes through how significantly more troops are now dying.

00:18:23.000 Okay, let's just stop right there and decipher this propaganda.

00:18:28.000 The official Israeli plan that was implemented in 2002 in the Pentagon plans, written in 83, said, break the country in three to four parts, create ethnic enclaves in Baghdad, and basically oversee genocide and population reduction, and make it a third world nation instead of a first world so that it couldn't be a strong leader in the Middle East.

00:18:49.000 That's publicly stated now.

00:18:51.000 And then they use it with permanent bases to strike out and launch attacks into the surrounding areas.

00:18:57.000 But I've made the analogy of it's like they were baking a cake in Iraq, and they did bake it, but they burned it.

00:19:02.000 You know, now it's unraveling so bad that the troops aren't even safe in their green zone, and their other little, again, high-tech command centers full of topless bars and triple-X movie theaters and, you know, shopping malls and fitness centers.

00:19:21.000 They're still getting killed inside, so they're in danger of even being run out of those, so they try to go out and, you know, at least take small perimeter sectors around it, and then McCain can do a one-minute walk and have 15 armored vehicles and helicopters and troops all around him in body armor, and they go, look, the market's free!

00:19:42.000 So they've just overdone it a little bit.

00:19:48.000 We'll come back and get more into what's really happening over there.

00:19:51.000 Then we'll get into the fake environmental news and what's happening on that front.

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00:19:56.000 And we'll tell you about Bush almost blowing himself up.

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00:24:21.000 It'll hide behind walls.

00:24:25.000 It'll hide behind desks. 0.52

00:24:29.000 I just want you to know I can see through your masks.

00:24:36.000 You that never done nothing but built to destroy.

00:24:42.000 You play with my world like it's your little toy.

00:24:51.000 Let's continue with the war news.

00:24:53.000 This is all mainstream, okay?

00:24:57.000 It's many times worse than this.

00:24:58.000 I talk to the Crips. 0.58

00:25:00.000 I don't just believe foreign newspapers when I read it.

00:25:03.000 You get different angles from the British, the French, the Iraqis, the Iranians, the Israelis, the Saudis.

00:25:09.000 I mean, I read South Korean newspapers, Japanese newspapers to get a picture of the war.

00:25:16.000 And let me tell you, it's not pretty.

00:25:19.000 There's really closer to a million people dead in the last four years in a month of liberation.

00:25:27.000 We know that over two and a half million Iraqis disappeared during the sanctions, which were siege, against that nation.

00:25:35.000 And I actually took time out to study what those sanctions really were.

00:25:38.000 They had lots of 60 Minutes pieces showing warehouses full of dentist chairs, going, look, Saddam won't even let them have the dentist chairs.

00:25:46.000 Why do you think Saddam let the cameras in there?

00:25:48.000 He was naive.

00:25:49.000 They wouldn't let him have the tubing or the electrical wire systems or the pumps because it could be used, they claimed, in military applications.

00:25:57.000 So the CR News would say, look, they've got all these warehouses full of things, and Saddam uses all the money for himself.

00:26:06.000 For every real biographer, even those that hated Saddam, and I'm not saying he was a good guy, a CIA officer, agent of this government who they set up, certainly cold-blooded killer.

00:26:15.000 Hired at 18 years of age.

00:26:18.000 But he certainly did, above all those regimes, he kept the smallest amount for himself.

00:26:24.000 He actually did engage in public works.

00:26:27.000 He actually did build universities.

00:26:28.000 He actually did have 60% of the graduates were women.

00:26:32.000 The women didn't wear the hoods, folks. 1.00

00:26:34.000 And the government wasn't about to allow that.

00:26:36.000 You understand.

00:26:37.000 They did not like him.

00:26:39.000 He was the leader in the region.

00:26:41.000 He had been a throwback to a more sensible U.S.

00:26:44.000 policy previously, and that policy ended with the policy of balkanization and order out of chaos.

00:26:56.000 Alright, I'm already digressing.

00:26:59.000 So more of our troops are getting killed by the surge.

00:27:01.000 That was a no-brainer.

00:27:02.000 You stick more of our troops in undefended areas, more are going to die.

00:27:04.000 That's 2 plus 2 equals 4.

00:27:05.000 More like 1 plus 1 equals 2.

00:27:09.000 Divide and Rule, America's Plan for Baghdad. 0.87

00:27:11.000 This is London Independent.

00:27:12.000 Now there was already a public plan now and they're announcing it like they just came up with it a few months ago to break it into three parts.

00:27:20.000 Oh, things are going so bad we have a plan.

00:27:21.000 Break it into three parts and U.S. 0.77

00:27:22.000 bases will run all of them.

00:27:24.000 Oh, a new plan.

00:27:25.000 Oh, it's so new.

00:27:27.000 Divide and Rule, America's Plan for Baghdad revealed a new counterinsurgency strategy to carve up the city into shield areas.

00:27:35.000 You know, the Romans would do that in Jerusalem and Rome itself, and Alexandria.

00:27:43.000 The tactic failed in Vietnam, so what chance does it have in Iraq?

00:27:46.000 Well, it's not meant to succeed.

00:27:48.000 It's meant to just string you out a little more.

00:27:50.000 Every year or two there's a new, oh, we've got a new strategy!

00:27:54.000 And that's billions a week in no-bid contracts.

00:27:57.000 Faced with an ever more ruthless insurgency in Baghdad, much of it controlled by our government, despite President George Bush's surge in troops, U.S.

00:28:05.000 forces in the city are now planning a massive and highly controversial counterinsurgency operation that will seal off vast areas of the city, enclosing whole neighborhoods with barricades, allowing only Iraqis with newly issued ID cards to enter.

00:28:17.000 And of course, these tens of thousands of our troops that have been trained in this, they were already trained in Macedonia doing it, and Serbia, and Afghanistan, a hundred other nations, They're all going to come here and be police officers.

00:28:29.000 Something like 80% of the troops that come back get into law enforcement, or at least try law enforcement.

00:28:36.000 Or maybe it's 80% of the new cops are getting out of the military.

00:28:39.000 I forget which one it is.

00:28:41.000 And man, I mean, you know, it's squad leader, ID, out of the car, up against it.

00:28:48.000 You ain't got the machine guns on you and you're just like, America 2010.

00:28:53.000 Our combat forces lead battles against the insurgency.

00:28:56.000 Brave men.

00:28:57.000 That's so sick.

00:28:59.000 And all these TV shows where it's all SWAT team this, SWAT team that.

00:29:05.000 We'd be in a lot of trouble, ladies and gentlemen.

00:29:10.000 So there's that report.

00:29:11.000 And when we get back, Iraqis face immense suffering.

00:29:15.000 This is from the British Broadcasting Commissariat.

00:29:20.000 This is the International Committee on the Red Cross.

00:29:22.000 This is a whitewash.

00:29:23.000 And I'm going to dovetail it.

00:29:24.000 I actually dug it back out.

00:29:27.000 Forget the British Lansing Journal.

00:29:28.000 I mean, they're non-partisan and have been proven to be accurate in the past.

00:29:31.000 Let's just ignore them.

00:29:33.000 How about a John Hopkins University at Baltimore study that shows the same amount.

00:29:45.000 A cool Close to 700,000.

00:29:47.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:51.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 The Empire's on the run.

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00:33:45.000 Welcome back, ladies and ladies and gentlemen.

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00:34:36.000 Okay, let me just continue going through this Iraq news.

00:34:38.000 So, they plan to now seal off the city and make you show ID cards like they do in Fallujah and search you and they said on NBC Nightly News before Brokawp retired, they had the troops on there saying, "If you don't have this card, we kill you on the spot." And then the military clarified and said, yes, if you don't have a card, we shoot you in the head. 0.98

00:34:58.000 Man, that is liberation. 0.99

00:35:00.000 That is freedom. 1.00

00:35:02.000 I mean, the Nazis would take you back to a facility and kill you. 0.98

00:35:05.000 Not America. 1.00

00:35:06.000 We kill you on the spot. 0.94

00:35:09.000 Just like they had that private Gruckheimer in the Ithaca Journal, remember back in 2002? 0.95

00:35:14.000 And he said, yeah, it's great!

00:35:16.000 I love the war in Afghanistan! 1.00

00:35:18.000 We go into whole villages, kill everyone! 0.88

00:35:20.000 Men, women, children! 0.99

00:35:22.000 And then Fox News, two days later, said to clarify, the Pentagon explained, that that's only in certain hostile areas do they kill everyone.

00:35:30.000 I mean, ground troops up, but just, I mean, we're talking chasing three-year-olds down.

00:35:33.000 Boom, boom, boom! 0.95

00:35:35.000 Right in the back, baby! 1.00

00:35:36.000 And don't you sit there and roll your eyes at me, you neocon followers who don't want to face that.

00:35:41.000 You just type it into Google, Ithaca Journal, Gruckheimer, and you pull it up, and then you can pull up the clarification.

00:35:48.000 The Pentagon put out a clarification And said, yeah, we do kill everybody, but this is why we do it.

00:35:55.000 Yeah, that's always been the good... Can you imagine, folks, if the military had invaded our country and would go in and kill whole towns of people?

00:36:02.000 How the screaming, the yelling, the freaking out... I mean, my gosh!

00:36:08.000 The British troops, now it's come out under orders, were saying that they were stripped and her guns were cocked. 0.95

00:36:14.000 I mean, can you imagine the torturing and the raping? 0.90

00:36:17.000 Can you imagine if the Iranians were torturing and raping, and if photos like that came out? 0.98

00:36:21.000 Like Abu Ghraib, the... the... the... the... But see, that's double-think public, folks. 0.96

00:36:27.000 That's a double-think public.

00:36:28.000 They're parking lot them! 1.00

00:36:29.000 Kill everyone of them! 1.00

00:36:31.000 They ain't human! 1.00

00:36:32.000 Kill them before they kill us! 1.00

00:36:37.000 It's a triple-double-think, because... It's a triple-double-think, because... 1.00

00:36:43.000 What happens is, when you look at this, number one, they'll say that we aren't torturing, but then they'll say, yeah, just kill them all, they're not human, once they get faced with torture.

00:37:00.000 But then if they torture, or there's even a rumor of torture, it's total freak-outs and, my gosh, we're high and mighty, we're the moral people, we're the good people, this is just terrible.

00:37:13.000 Alright, I'm already digressing and I don't want to go to your calls.

00:37:16.000 Iraqis face immense suffering.

00:37:18.000 This is out of the April 11th BBC Today on this Wednesday.

00:37:24.000 The international community on the Red Cross says the situation for ordinary Iraqis is getting steadily worse.

00:37:30.000 Four years after the U.S.-led invasion, the ICRC says the conflict is inflicting immense suffering and calls for greater protection of civilians.

00:37:41.000 An Iraqi woman quoted in the reports that people wanted help to collect bodies lining streets every morning.

00:37:47.000 I mean, folks, this is all by design, too.

00:37:50.000 You watch, they've already got their numbers down now by $3.5 million conservatively.

00:37:54.000 In fact, if you believe the $700,000 number.

00:37:59.000 And probably more like $4 million.

00:38:01.000 And ten years from now, folks, they go from $25 million to $22 million.

00:38:06.000 There'll be 18 million, there'll be 15 million, 30 years from now.

00:38:10.000 And we're even allowed to get news from there by then.

00:38:12.000 I mean, there'll be 5 million of them.

00:38:14.000 They'll have robotic swords, which are already deployed in Fallujah and other areas, stomping around, gunning down the final families.

00:38:21.000 I mean, this is how it works, folks.

00:38:23.000 You think I'm joking about this?

00:38:26.000 Three plus million are gone.

00:38:29.000 Gone, gone, gone.

00:38:31.000 And that was all the sanctions, ladies and gentlemen.

00:38:34.000 99.9% of it.

00:38:36.000 I mean, literally, Saddam killed hundreds a year, ladies and gentlemen.

00:38:40.000 Nothing compared to what our criminal government does, but it does it through slick propaganda, so the average person doesn't even know what's going on here domestically.

00:38:46.000 The torture, the murder in the prisons, the killing at the houses, the assassinations.

00:38:53.000 Iraq faces immense suffering.

00:38:57.000 The ICRC still has a presence in Iraq, despite the bombing of its Baghdad offices three and a half years ago.

00:39:05.000 In the report called Civilians Without Protection, the Ever Worshipping Crisis in Iraq, the Red Cross asked Iraqis what could be done to help them.

00:39:13.000 The answer was, a shock says IHCRC, Director of Operations Pari Kheranbulin, I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that right.

00:39:22.000 The suffering That Iraqi men, women, and children are enduring today is unbearable and unacceptable, he said.

00:39:29.000 The ICRC calls on all those who can influence the situation on the ground to act now to ensure that the lives of ordinary people are spared and protected.

00:39:36.000 This is an obligation under international humanitarian law for both states and non-state actors.

00:39:43.000 The famously neutral International Red Cross will not blame anyone in particular for what it calls the current disastrous security situation, but the BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva reports makes it clear that nobody, including the Iraqi government and coalition forces, has done enough so far, our correspondent adds.

00:40:02.000 And it just goes on for page after page.

00:40:04.000 Go read it.

00:40:05.000 And you're still here with the neocon talking points on Neil Bortz, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Weiner, Beatnik, Savage.

00:40:15.000 You still hear them go, that's a complete lie.

00:40:18.000 You know, 655,000 haven't died, and those that did die, it's the insurgency.

00:40:25.000 When we know that there wasn't any real insurgency for the first six months.

00:40:30.000 And then the Israeli Mossad, the U.S.

00:40:33.000 government, the British, started blowing up mosques on both sides, and they've been caught continually.

00:40:37.000 I mean, they'll watch U.S.

00:40:38.000 troops, white guys, in front of international observers, walk right into a mosque, wire it for six hours, blow the thing sky-high, it's publicly admitted, it doesn't matter. 0.56

00:40:48.000 And then, because the Sunnis and Shiites had stopped killing each other for a month, there had only been a few bombings and just a few dozen killed, and that wasn't about to happen. 0.73

00:40:56.000 And you know, you can fool still 30-40% of the population.

00:40:59.000 Arabs are just like people in the U.S. 1.00

00:41:01.000 A lot of them are mainstream public, totally stupid and dumbed down. 1.00

00:41:05.000 And then they really believe the Sunnis and Shiites are attacking each other. 1.00

00:41:09.000 And then once you start killing each other, once they start the chain reaction, they really do kill each other.

00:41:15.000 Like I said, there was an overcooking though, and so four or five months ago they decided to cut back on the provocation of bombings.

00:41:21.000 And there is evidence that there's been some cutback in the provocation because they wanted to be able to say, oh, there's an insurgency, civil war, we can't leave.

00:41:28.000 So that's the excuse to stay.

00:41:30.000 But then it gets so bad, they may actually get kicked out.

00:41:33.000 And so they kind of, you know, turn the oven heat down a little bit, you know, kind of took the cake out of the oven.

00:41:40.000 It's the way they operate, folks.

00:41:43.000 British government admits 600,000 plus Iraqi death tolls, one independent, but then you read down deeper, the study concludes by researchers from John Hopkins University who looked at the British study in Baltimore and at the Al Mustansiria University in Baghdad estimated that 655,000 more Iraqis have died since March 2003 than one would expect without the war.

00:42:09.000 The study estimated that 601,000 of those deaths were from violence.

00:42:14.000 So they found basically the exact same number.

00:42:16.000 Now that's just using, that came out six months ago.

00:42:19.000 That was just used in the first three years.

00:42:22.000 Now another year, because you know, statistics are always behind.

00:42:25.000 Now a whole other year plus, a year and three weeks has passed, and the estimates are coming in at over one million.

00:42:35.000 I mean folks, dead bodies everywhere.

00:42:40.000 Oh, I tell ya, that's good!

00:42:42.000 Parking lot!

00:42:44.000 Turn them into parking lot! 1.00

00:42:48.000 That's about all you can say while you drink your Diet Coke and give your kids your mercury-filled shots and wonder why they have organ failure on you or go into autistic seizures and never come back.

00:42:59.000 Because you don't know what the good mood is.

00:43:03.000 That's right.

00:43:04.000 Because you like being like this. 1.00

00:43:07.000 You like being stupid. 1.00

00:43:12.000 We like being kind. 1.00

00:43:15.000 I mean, literally, could I, like, wrap myself an American flag and come in your house and steal everything in front of you, you know, as long as I said, It's for America!

00:43:21.000 You'd go, Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright.

00:43:24.000 But they steal your life, they steal your country's name, they steal your currency, they steal your borders, they steal everything, and you fall down and go, Well, I still support the troops and the operation.

00:43:37.000 The operation.

00:43:40.000 By the way, the operation is a stunning success.

00:43:43.000 Over three million killed.

00:43:45.000 First world nation now in below third world squalor. 0.92

00:43:49.000 I mean, they're literally going into the Stone Age.

00:43:53.000 Permanent military bases being built everywhere and massive fleets staged and prepared, lined up in the pike to attack Iran. 1.00

00:44:05.000 All the enemies destroyed.

00:44:06.000 The US hated worldwide.

00:44:09.000 The border's imploding, total amnesty about to be voted on.

00:44:12.000 The enemy's defeated.

00:44:13.000 The New World Order is defeating its enemies.

00:44:17.000 It's having an incredible victory against humanity right now.

00:44:23.000 And you're driving around going, I love America!

00:44:27.000 With the very same people.

00:44:30.000 And I do that voice because I've talked to a lot of people who support the war, and that's how they talk, folks, around here.

00:44:34.000 I mean, it'll freak you out.

00:44:35.000 They'll just go, I like America!

00:44:38.000 I mean, you're just like, hey, man, this is a fraud.

00:44:40.000 Oh, man.

00:44:45.000 Of course, a lot of them are in business suits and real quiet.

00:44:48.000 Well, yes, it's a good price to pay for the oil.

00:44:51.000 It's part of the strategy, and the world's always been a tough place, Mr. Jones.

00:44:56.000 I know some bad things are happening, but if we weren't doing it, someone else would.

00:45:01.000 That's the other group.

00:45:03.000 And their pension funds are going to be sucked out.

00:45:06.000 Their dollars being plunged too.

00:45:07.000 Their kids taking the very same mercury shot.

00:45:09.000 Drinking the same aspartame.

00:45:11.000 Down over 9,000 foods.

00:45:12.000 They're eating GMO foods.

00:45:13.000 They're breathing all this toxic GMO pollen that's got everybody sick. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Got the honeybees dying.

00:45:21.000 But see, they feel like they're members of the elite.

00:45:23.000 Well, I've got a master's degree from Duke.

00:45:27.000 I've got a master's degree from Princeton.

00:45:29.000 Well, yes, there is some problems, but you've got to understand the end justifies the means.

00:45:35.000 There's that type who's a coward and who can't admit that they're slaves too.

00:45:43.000 Taxing us for breathing. 0.96

00:45:44.000 Let me shift gears now out of the Iraq News and that wonderful little picture.

00:45:49.000 This is the New York Times.

00:45:52.000 Last week the New York Times published an extraordinary editorial complaining that right now everyone is using the atmosphere like a municipal dump.

00:45:59.000 Depositing carbon dioxide for free!

00:46:03.000 The Times editor suggested the government start charging for the privilege by imposing a carbon tax, and went on to say, on the very respiration, that's the word they used, and start taxing human respiration.

00:46:17.000 Now, again, let me just give you a newsflash here, for the little cult member Oh the earth, that type, oh yes, that type.

00:46:27.000 We've got to shut down these corporations. 0.82

00:46:30.000 Which are financing you, you don't know that.

00:46:33.000 You'll find out in five minutes, which you refuse to.

00:46:35.000 Because it's your identity at the coffee shop, or at the tea shop, or hanging out at the park, going ooooh, ooooh.

00:46:42.000 And they actually, they all have like animal calls.

00:46:44.000 The good old boys go ooooh, and the liberals go ooooh.

00:46:49.000 I'm not kidding folks, they all have little animal calls.

00:46:52.000 And all their little cult groups, like sheep, different sheep brays. 1.00

00:46:55.000 And you talk to the liberals and they'll just go, mmmm.

00:46:58.000 You try to argue with them, the fake liberal, because that's their feeling good.

00:47:03.000 They're actually accessing in their mind, you know, their elitism and how they know everything and just creamily getting off on the cant of it, you know, the rote rhetoric. 0.91

00:47:16.000 They'll just go, ooooh, because they can't debate you.

00:47:19.000 And you'll say, listen, it's a big scam.

00:47:19.000 They'll just go, ooooh.

00:47:22.000 Peak oil is a scam.

00:47:23.000 There's more oil than ever.

00:47:24.000 Look at all these oil deposit numbers.

00:47:25.000 And look at the facts.

00:47:26.000 And Dutch Royal Shell originally put out the peak oil fraud to create artificial scarcity.

00:47:30.000 And carbon dioxide is what animals exhale and then plants breathe it.

00:47:35.000 And there's all these studies going back tens of thousands of years from the ice cores showing that you have more greening and more life and that mammals would actually probably live longer and be healthier in a higher oxygen environment.

00:47:47.000 You know about all the oxygen therapies out there.

00:47:50.000 And they'll just go, oh, you're saying there isn't problems with the environment.

00:47:56.000 And I'm saying no!

00:47:58.000 There is horrible problems with genetic engineering.

00:48:02.000 There are horrible problems with toxic waste and heavy metal dumping in the water systems.

00:48:07.000 We are drinking it, the dioxins, and all the rest of it.

00:48:10.000 I don't like it.

00:48:11.000 I don't want to die of cancer.

00:48:12.000 You know, I want to die when I'm 85, not 42, folks.

00:48:17.000 I mean, yeah, there's big problems.

00:48:19.000 Cancer's way up.

00:48:20.000 Diabetes is way up.

00:48:21.000 Allergies, everyone has them now, at least in this town.

00:48:26.000 All the big studies show the GMO isn't just killing the bees, it's hurting us.

00:48:31.000 Because it's got bacteria DNA, and insect DNA, and plant DNA, and other animal DNA.

00:48:37.000 Your body's going, what in tarnations is this?

00:48:40.000 Because our bodies, in our development, have never run into stuff like this.

00:48:45.000 I mean, the potatoes, most of the potatoes you eat have got amino acids that never existed.

00:48:49.000 Okay?

00:48:50.000 Never!

00:48:51.000 In the history of this planet.

00:48:53.000 And your body doesn't know how to absorb those.

00:48:55.000 They're highly toxic.

00:48:56.000 There's petrochemicals in most of your refined foods.

00:48:59.000 Man, I'm all into taking care of the environment.

00:49:02.000 But let me tell you, the environment isn't going and using the city of Austin, because the banks and the Real Estate Council finance it and lobby, to go steal people's property and build five-star golf courses and hotels on it.

00:49:16.000 I mean, believe me, I use the green belts and I like them, but don't you go steal some family's ranch and not even give them but five cents on the dollar or what it's worth and then turn around and take the restrictions off and sit there and laugh at me and prance around talking about how you're an environmentalist.

00:49:32.000 Yes, I remember in Spaceballs, the comedy takeoff of Star Wars where the, uh, where the, uh, president or the emperor is like sitting there snorting his, uh, He's got cans of air, fresh air, having to breathe it because there's no air.

00:49:50.000 That's hilarious.

00:49:52.000 Well, they're going to tell you that.

00:49:54.000 There is a living tax.

00:49:55.000 You already got that on property and sales and income and all that.

00:49:59.000 But now you're going to have a breathing tax.

00:50:00.000 And that's already what this is, a transportation tax.

00:50:03.000 They're coming out with diesel engine taxes and gasoline engine taxes and state and regional taxes.

00:50:08.000 And that's the number one agenda on the North American Union plate, is to start all this up.

00:50:15.000 Meanwhile, you've got John Travolta, and you've got all these, and Bono, and you've got Madonna, literally with fleets of their own jets, 5, 10, 15 mansions.

00:50:28.000 But see, they're the elitist.

00:50:30.000 You don't need resources.

00:50:32.000 It's just government training you not to have resources.

00:50:35.000 Government getting you ready to live in third world squalor.

00:50:42.000 You see, what they've done to the Iraqis, they're going to do here with Prozac and Ritalin and CPS in just a more sophisticated way. 0.95

00:50:48.000 You know, do you expect me to talk?

00:50:52.000 No, Mr. Bond, we expect you to die. 0.99

00:50:55.000 That's what they're telling you. 1.00

00:50:55.000 They expect you to die. 1.00

00:50:57.000 It's here.

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00:54:04.000 About 15 minutes into the next hour, we've got a scholar for 9-11 Truth, a pilot for 9-11 Truth, joining us for the first time here on air to get into the inside job that was 9-11.

00:54:16.000 I'm going to go to your calls, Kyle, Jim, Linda, Robert, and Galen before he joins us about 15 after.

00:54:24.000 I do want to take out about 30 seconds to remind you I'm a documentary filmmaker.

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00:54:44.000 You need to have it.

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00:55:05.000 That's where the fight's at.

00:55:06.000 Kyle in Iowa.

00:55:07.000 You're on the air.

00:55:08.000 Go ahead.

00:55:10.000 How's it going?

00:55:10.000 Good, sir.

00:55:11.000 Hey, I got a couple of things I want to whip by really quick, and then one question, if you could elaborate on that.

00:55:19.000 I was listening to your broadcast, I think it was last week, and there was a guy who was talking about doing 9-11 Truth on the rubber stampers or whatever, and I got an idea for that. 0.75

00:55:27.000 What I'm going to do is put a window sticker on the back of my car that says, 9-11 Truth, jet engines are made of steel and they don't melt, InfoWars.com.

00:55:38.000 I think that might be a good idea.

00:55:41.000 I was curious, I'm assuming you have, but have you seen the Conspiracy of Silence video that was supposed to be put on the Discovery Channel?

00:55:51.000 I'm assuming you have.

00:55:52.000 Yeah, we put that on AXS TV about seven, eight years ago, and it's been on Google Video for about three years.

00:56:01.000 Okay, also really quick, I had called in and just talked to one of your guys' staffers, Because I noticed you're complaining about your allergies, and there's a product I got that's helped me out quite a bit with that, and I didn't know if you'd gotten that information.

00:56:13.000 It's an air purifier, ozone kind of deal here.

00:56:18.000 So I don't know if you got that or not, but if you didn't, I will tell you what that is.

00:56:22.000 Okay, listen, I really appreciate your call.

00:56:24.000 I did get that info, thank you.

00:56:26.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Jim in Washington.

00:56:29.000 Jim, go ahead.

00:56:29.000 Hello?

00:56:31.000 Yes.

00:56:32.000 Hello, Alex.

00:56:33.000 I'm a first-time caller.

00:56:34.000 I've been listening to your show for a while.

00:56:36.000 Well, welcome to the airwaves.

00:56:37.000 Alright, thanks.

00:56:39.000 I ran across a Google video of Norman Dodd last night doing the investigation of the Carnegie Endowment and non-profits.

00:56:47.000 Yeah, the Church House Committee hearings on the ruling elite of America and how the private banks fund the foundations to run both political parties.

00:56:57.000 Right, exactly.

00:56:58.000 And toward the end, when he was doing his investigation, it said that Their objection to what he was doing towards him when he was doing his deal was his devotion to anti-Semitism.

00:57:11.000 This just goes back to Bill O'Reilly and everything he was doing.

00:57:14.000 It's like they read out of the same book, you know?

00:57:16.000 If you feel threatened, call your opposition a Jew-hater, you know?

00:57:20.000 It's the same old deal. 0.99

00:57:22.000 Absolutely and I mean literally now you can talk about global warming not being man-made and they say it's holocaust denial if you criticize the government I mean out of the blue they call Rosie like a Nazi like 50 times I've seen on TV and say that she supports holocaust denial and she's never said anything about that I mean then but that it's really starting to backfire it's it's not it's really getting stupid. 0.80

00:57:46.000 Right and I was also wondering about the dictaphone belts of Casper and Reese have those ever been Exposed?

00:57:52.000 Can you get those through the Freedom of Information Act?

00:57:55.000 You're going to have to remind me what that is.

00:57:57.000 Uh, well... Uh, part of the investigation was Dictaphone Belt.

00:58:01.000 Oh, you're talking about the Carnegie Endowment hearings that are on tape.

00:58:06.000 No, I believe we only have the transcripts of those, but those were brought in under subpoena to Congress.

00:58:10.000 It's admitted.

00:58:11.000 All how Carnegie Endowment, that you always hear about pushing for peace?

00:58:16.000 No, it says how do we start wars?

00:58:18.000 How do we do all this?

00:58:20.000 Listen, I appreciate your calls.

00:58:21.000 That's what you're speaking of, correct?

00:58:23.000 Yes, and I was wondering where I would be able to get that information.

00:58:26.000 Oh man, I've interviewed The person that interviewed Dodd before he died.

00:58:32.000 And that's G. Edward Griffin.

00:58:34.000 I mean, I've just covered it over the years.

00:58:35.000 It's kind of like knowledge.

00:58:36.000 You know, you get knowledge and at a certain point you don't remember where you got it, you just know it.

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:17.000 We've got a 9-11 pilot for truth, Commander Ted Muga, joining us.

00:59:22.000 Then we've got Professor Walter F. Murphy, who's a very prestigious professor at Princeton in jurisprudence and constitutional law, put on the no-fly list, the terrorist list, because he criticized President Bush.

00:59:37.000 And that's now been admitted, they do that.

00:59:39.000 There's a lot of examples of where they've put people on these lists.

00:59:43.000 And a course of neocons, I've seen them on the message boards, are posting that this just isn't true.

00:59:48.000 It's been admitted that they do this.

00:59:50.000 What are you talking about, you twits?

00:59:52.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Linda in Kentucky. 1.00

00:59:54.000 Linda, go ahead. 1.00

00:59:56.000 Hi, Alex.

00:59:57.000 Hi.

00:59:59.000 I wanted to talk to you about the food supply.

01:00:01.000 Yes.

01:00:02.000 And I tell you, Sunday, you just hit home with me and you were going on about these GMO foods.

01:00:09.000 I've got a whole list to cover.

01:00:10.000 I've got some important things to say.

01:00:13.000 First of all, Bayer had GMO rice that got out in California last year.

01:00:18.000 Did you know about that?

01:00:20.000 Where it wasn't approved?

01:00:21.000 Well, it's supposed to do that.

01:00:22.000 They accidentally put Starlink into the Shiloh hoppers into corn that just wasn't to be eaten but was for seed stock.

01:00:32.000 It's all by design.

01:00:33.000 Well, epistyte has GMO corn that produces antibodies that prevent conception.

01:00:40.000 You know, I remember... Give me more details, because I know about pharmacological crops, but I want to do more stories on this.

01:00:46.000 There's so much.

01:00:47.000 Well, I've got a whole list.

01:00:49.000 I've got to cover it.

01:00:49.000 You don't have time.

01:00:51.000 I estimate that, like, 87% of the corn is now genetically modified.

01:00:56.000 Yeah, no, that's an official number, like, five years ago, that 87% of the strains on Earth have been contaminated with one variety of Bt corn connected to killing the honeybees.

01:01:06.000 But let's just go back here.

01:01:09.000 I'm intrigued by it, because I know that in the 50s they had a declassified plan to ship Rice that had sterilization chemicals to the Asians, and that indeed did happen in quote, you know, food programs.

01:01:22.000 Why Africans won't accept GMO donated food now. 1.00

01:01:26.000 But go back, what are they putting EpiCyte in?

01:01:30.000 What's growing EpiCyte?

01:01:32.000 EpiCyte is the name of the company now.

01:01:34.000 From what I understand they're denying this.

01:01:38.000 I've talked to a farmer about it.

01:01:40.000 And it produces corn that prevents conception and affects the semen, where it won't fertilize an egg in humans.

01:01:48.000 Well, that's exactly the type of stuff that we've caught them doing in the past.

01:01:51.000 I don't know about this particular company, but I'd like to see some documentation on that.

01:01:56.000 I have it, and I could forward it to you, but I'm not finished.

01:01:59.000 Yeah.

01:02:00.000 About the weed issue and the recall in the dog food.

01:02:03.000 We've known it for over a year that there's a problem with wheat and I can't get anybody to listen.

01:02:09.000 I can't get doctors to listen.

01:02:11.000 I can't get veterinarians to listen.

01:02:14.000 I tried calling the dog food companies I get hung up on and we have dogs and about three years ago they started blowing blood out their nose for no reason.

01:02:26.000 We traced it to the wheat and when we got them off wheat it went away.

01:02:30.000 And the farmer that I talked to says it's possibly a fungus.

01:02:36.000 Now, I called... Well, yeah, see, you talk to farmers, you keep talking about, I mean, I need some proof here.

01:02:42.000 You mention this stuff, and then I've read hundreds of articles about the fungus contamination of wheat and other grains, and that it's in the human foodstuffs as well.

01:02:52.000 And so I have proof of that, but I mean, and I'm not criticizing you, it's just... No, these are my personal dogs.

01:02:58.000 No, you see, you talk to a farmer.

01:03:00.000 Yeah, I can't say.

01:03:03.000 I can't say, because I'm trying to help him like I'm helping you get information.

01:03:06.000 Ma'am, you're missing what I'm saying.

01:03:08.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.

01:03:10.000 You're missing even what I'm saying to you.

01:03:13.000 If you type in fungus contamination of wheat into Google, you will see all these recalls and constant problems.

01:03:21.000 And I'm saying, ma'am, see, about 90% of the calls I get are, I heard from a neighbor.

01:03:27.000 Well, I heard there's a plan to build FEMA camps.

01:03:29.000 Have you heard this urban legend?

01:03:31.000 And I'm like, no, I have the Army declassified document.

01:03:34.000 It's at army.mil slash whatever.

01:03:36.000 Here's the Houston Chronicle.

01:03:38.000 And by the way, I went down to the camp here in Austin.

01:03:42.000 See?

01:03:43.000 And so all I'm saying is, is that, uh... Ah, it doesn't even matter.

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01:06:59.000 Commander Ted Muga will be joining us.

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01:07:11.000 Pilots for 9-11 Truth, coming up here in just a few minutes.

01:07:16.000 Some very important developments and information.

01:07:19.000 Oh, no.

01:07:21.000 Let's go ahead and take a call from Robert.

01:07:24.000 Robert, where are you calling us from today?

01:07:27.000 Aurora, Colorado.

01:07:28.000 And I'm sitting in my living room burning copies of Terror Storm.

01:07:31.000 Good, thank you.

01:07:33.000 Alexander Ember Jones, I want to go a little bit off topic if you'll let me, but you always say open lines, open form, no subject is taboo off limits, so here goes.

01:07:42.000 Who are you liking in the NBA Finals?

01:07:45.000 I have not been.

01:07:47.000 I actually like basketball, but I haven't had time to watch basketball.

01:07:52.000 With all the R.I.P.s that have gotten fired, Alexander, I don't see how you have time to sleep.

01:07:57.000 Yeah, I don't even know who is in the finals.

01:08:00.000 Well, it doesn't come out until June.

01:08:02.000 I like the Dolph Merricks, but who cares?

01:08:05.000 No doubt you have heard the righteous indignation, the uproar, the, oh my god, I can't believe you said that about Don.

01:08:10.000 I must, um, I want to know where Alexander Jones sits as a radio broadcaster, as a citizen.

01:08:18.000 Uh, where are you on this?

01:08:19.000 Is it much ado about nothing?

01:08:21.000 You know, I'm going to be honest with you.

01:08:22.000 I ignored it for like the first four or five days or whatever.

01:08:25.000 And then, and I, I last night clicked on one or two and it wouldn't say what he said.

01:08:31.000 And they're calling for banning that type of speech. 1.00

01:08:36.000 And personally, I think Don Imus is an idiot. 1.00

01:08:39.000 And Don Imus just comes off as a complete slime ball. 1.00

01:08:42.000 But I mean, I want to know why black leaders get upset by that, but they don't get upset by CPS grabbing black children all over this country and testing drugs and pesticides on them. 0.98

01:08:51.000 So frankly, I mean, I get upset about that. 0.76

01:08:54.000 That really freaks me out. 0.97

01:08:55.000 I mean, if they can just kill little kids right in front of everybody.

01:08:58.000 And it's in a couple of papers and nothing happens.

01:09:00.000 There are 3,000 kids of all races that are missing in Florida.

01:09:03.000 Some are found overseas.

01:09:04.000 Some are found dead.

01:09:06.000 And right here in Texas, the governor has blocked the state from doing anything about giant child rape rings running everything.

01:09:11.000 I mean, that's even in the paper.

01:09:12.000 And I mean, I'm pretty freaked out.

01:09:13.000 So, frankly, yeah.

01:09:16.000 I mean, Don Imus is a joke.

01:09:18.000 And he probably did all this on purpose because his show is a joke.

01:09:22.000 I mean, personally, it's just... It's a big distraction to me.

01:09:29.000 But I don't even know what he really said.

01:09:31.000 Well just to bring up the speed, last week I think Wednesday or Thursday he was doing a sports show over WFAN radio up in New York, Big Sports Talk Station.

01:09:40.000 He's the newest guy but he works for them.

01:09:42.000 He's also syndicated with CBS Infinity.

01:09:44.000 They were talking about the NCAA Women's Collegiate Basketball Tournament and specifically the Rutgers University women's team.

01:09:51.000 which is probably black and there was a film clip of him, I think, showing the background or whatever.

01:09:55.000 And he said, quote, unquote, they look like a bunch of nappy hoes, close quote. 0.99

01:09:59.000 And it took about a couple of days and then the firestorm took off about Friday and pretty much hadn't cooled off since then. 0.98

01:10:06.000 Well, I mean, that shows what he's a mean pig person.

01:10:11.000 And I don't judge books by their cover, but I mean, believe me, that's probably the least of what Don Imus is really up to. 0.88

01:10:19.000 Oh, yeah, I'm sure it is.

01:10:21.000 I'm sure it is, no doubt.

01:10:22.000 Okay man, I'll keep up the good work.

01:10:23.000 God bless.

01:10:24.000 Alright, thank you for the call.

01:10:26.000 We're going to get to Galen and Richard and Don and everybody because we're going to take calls while our guest is on with us.

01:10:31.000 You know, I've got his bio and it is a long one.

01:10:34.000 And we're honored to have him with us.

01:10:35.000 It's probably just better if he tells you a little bit about himself and how he woke up to 9-11 truth.

01:10:41.000 And he is Commander Ted Muga.

01:10:45.000 Ted, thank you for coming on with us.

01:10:47.000 Hello, Alex.

01:10:47.000 How are you today?

01:10:48.000 Fantastic.

01:10:49.000 You're with Powell's for 9-11 Truth and you're also involved with some other 9-11 Truth groups.

01:10:53.000 Just tell us about your career in the military, what you've done since then, and why you've gone public on 9-11.

01:11:01.000 Well, coming out of college, of course, we had a draft in those days, as you remember.

01:11:06.000 And so I was sort of pulled into a new career because of the compulsory draft.

01:11:13.000 I was essentially coming out of college with an engineering degree, hoping to go into structural engineering.

01:11:18.000 And my plans changed there because of the Vietnam War.

01:11:23.000 And so I went into pilot training and that's where my career somewhat changed into a career of aviation.

01:11:32.000 So I had two cruises in Vietnam and coming out of there I went into Pan Am.

01:11:40.000 I went to Pan Am.

01:11:41.000 Let's go back.

01:11:41.000 What did you fly in Vietnam?

01:11:43.000 Oh, when I was in Vietnam I flew the E-1 and E-2 which is an airborne early warning aircraft.

01:11:49.000 Those are the aircraft with the radar.

01:11:51.000 What we do when we take off Uh, we take the place of the control tower from the carrier.

01:11:58.000 Ah.

01:11:59.000 And pull the aircraft in and out of the beach.

01:12:02.000 Sure.

01:12:04.000 And then please continue.

01:12:06.000 And so, coming out of the Navy, my active duty ended in 1968.

01:12:11.000 I went to Pan American and I started flying for Pan Am out of San Francisco.

01:12:18.000 We had the old 707s in those days.

01:12:22.000 And of course, Pan Am was going through a little turmoil as they were growing and everything and bringing in the 747s.

01:12:27.000 I was furloughed there in the early 70s and I had a few miscellaneous areas of career, but then I was called back in in the middle 80s.

01:12:38.000 I went to Berlin actually.

01:12:40.000 I was domiciled in Berlin from two years before the wall came down to two years after the wall came down.

01:12:48.000 So I was flying strictly European routes all those years.

01:12:55.000 Bring us up to 9-11.

01:12:59.000 When that event took place, that very day, what was your first response?

01:13:05.000 And then over time, when did you finally wake up to 9-11?

01:13:07.000 When did you go public and join 9-11 Pilots for Truth and other organizations?

01:13:13.000 Well, strangely, the day of 9-11, because we were very, very involved in local politics and everything, we were actually involved in some local politics that morning, so I sort of missed all of it and everything.

01:13:29.000 But once we heard about it on the television and everything, the first item that came to my mind was blowback.

01:13:35.000 I thought they were getting back to us for all of the events that we had participated in the past and everything.

01:13:42.000 And so I didn't think that much about it for some reason, only because we were very involved in local politics.

01:13:51.000 But then, Charlie, thereafter, if you can remember, I think it was Discovery Channel or PBS, I can't remember, but NOVA came on with their explanation of the engineering and technical reasons for the demolition, or pardon me, of the destruction of the buildings or why they came down.

01:14:09.000 And actually, when they mentioned the pancake theory, that really got my attention because In structural engineering there is no such thing as a pancake theory.

01:14:17.000 And so it was at that point that I knew that someone was intentionally misleading the public into believing the reasons why those buildings came down.

01:14:28.000 Now many of the supposed experts they trot out Uh, for NIST or FEMA, it turns out, are getting big government contracts or work for the government, and it's only like ten or so of them.

01:14:39.000 It's a handful of, quote, experts.

01:14:40.000 And then every other expert you talk to, and every other engineer we've talked to, and you said you went to school for engineering before you became a pilot in Vietnam.

01:14:47.000 I mean, they all just go, no, something's wrong there.

01:14:49.000 Then you look at Building 7.

01:14:50.000 Uh, so, I mean, you started, so you saw that program.

01:14:54.000 What year was that?

01:14:56.000 Uh, gosh, it was in 2002, I believe.

01:14:59.000 Yeah.

01:15:00.000 And so did the lightbulb go off or was it a process or did you wake up at 3 a.m.?

01:15:04.000 The lightbulb came off and then I just started thinking about all of my experience in flying and everything.

01:15:11.000 Getting back to those engineers that you're talking about, have you noticed though that they will never come out and debate in public?

01:15:21.000 And I'm sure that there's a very good reason why they won't do that.

01:15:24.000 Stephen Jones, you know, has Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice, they have asked him specifically to come out and debate them.

01:15:34.000 And they will not debate in public.

01:15:36.000 And there's a very good reason because there is no engineering reason or technical reason that those buildings could come down because of strictly fires.

01:15:48.000 Steel structures just don't operate that way.

01:15:51.000 Well now, it's becoming almost a joke, but if it wasn't so serious, with all these firemen and police and medical workers and the video clips of the reporters saying, get back, they're going to blow the building up, they're going to bring it down, and then Silverstein saying, we made the decision to pull, and the next clip of the documentary shows them blowing up other buildings, calling it, when we pull a building, we demolish it.

01:16:13.000 I mean, I mean, it's...

01:16:15.000 And then now the BBC, everybody kind of forgot about it, it was a huge story and it just disappeared.

01:16:19.000 We should kind of do another story on that and try to point that out to people.

01:16:23.000 The BBC and then it turned out CNN and then another BBC channel reported twenty-something minutes before Building 7 fell that it had fallen and then stated the official story in the little press release they were reading.

01:16:33.000 I mean, we see total scripting.

01:16:36.000 There are so many events in the past.

01:16:39.000 I mean, 9-11 was just the most recent one and the most obvious one. 0.90

01:16:43.000 But then we just go back to the Oklahoma City bombing, even the USS Liberty.

01:16:49.000 I remember when I first heard about the USS Liberty, I was actually watching your DVD, Terror Storm.

01:16:54.000 That's what brought it to my attention.

01:16:55.000 And I couldn't believe it.

01:16:56.000 In fact, you know, recently there are some articles coming out.

01:16:59.000 I think it's in the free press out of Washington, D.C., because the 40th anniversary of the USS Liberty is coming up.

01:17:07.000 But there are so many events in our past history that the public needs to awake and connect to and open their eyes.

01:17:15.000 I don't know why the public is so hesitant to face the truth and open their eyes to some of these events.

01:17:24.000 Well, the people that try to debunk us, either build straw men or attack other researchers who are either mentally ill or by design are putting out this info, they can never really address the real core facts.

01:17:36.000 And they certainly don't want to address Operation Northwoods, a plan to carry out these style attacks.

01:17:41.000 They certainly don't want to deal with the fact that we have hijackers trained at U.S.

01:17:46.000 military bases.

01:17:47.000 Confirmed.

01:17:48.000 That is confirmed.

01:17:49.000 They don't want to address NORAD standing down and they don't want to address the Gulf of Tonkin was staged to get us into NAMM.

01:17:56.000 They don't want to address the overthrow of Mozadek, which Ron Paul brought up on Bill Maher.

01:18:01.000 They don't want to address that our government, that is criminal elements of our government, have staged terror or claim terror happened that never happened before to launch their own terror.

01:18:11.000 You're hitting the nail right on the head.

01:18:13.000 I'm not sure what it's going to take to get the public to wake up.

01:18:16.000 They have to understand, it's not the entire government.

01:18:19.000 You sort of said that it's an element within the government that seems to have a handle on all of this.

01:18:25.000 And we need to slowly open up the cracks.

01:18:31.000 I mean, even like Popular Organics with their story about Stay there, sir.

01:18:39.000 We've got a break.

01:18:40.000 And Popular Mechanics is owned by the Hertz Publishing Company.

01:18:45.000 And, I mean, that's the clue right there that...

01:18:48.000 Stay there, sir.

01:18:49.000 We've got a break.

01:18:49.000 We'll be right back.

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01:23:25.000 I fly from the trees, over the seas, in all the greens, to anywhere I please.

01:23:37.000 Welcome back.

01:23:37.000 Oh, I want to get away.

01:23:43.000 I want to fly.

01:23:46.000 Commander Ted Moog, a U.S.

01:23:47.000 Navy retired and retired naval aviator, running E-1, E-2s, retired Pan Am commercial air pilot, Boeing 707s and 727s.

01:23:55.000 He's with Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice, and also Pilots for 9-11 Truth.

01:24:01.000 Later, there's a website, PatriotQuestions911.com, and it just lists some of the former military and government people who've gone public, and I can't read them all, there's that many.

01:24:11.000 I've interviewed most of them.

01:24:13.000 And the few I haven't, we're going to be interviewing here.

01:24:15.000 There's new ones every week.

01:24:17.000 Just amazing individuals, fighter pilots, colonels, engineers, constantly going public on 9/11.

01:24:27.000 So, I mean, in 2002, the light bulb goes off because you took engineering in school, and then you start thinking about the piloting.

01:24:34.000 And, you know, it's like that all the time in my own life.

01:24:36.000 You don't think about things until later.

01:24:38.000 You're, I guess, forced to look at them, and then it kind of, something clicks.

01:24:40.000 You go, how did I not see that before?

01:24:42.000 I mean, that's kind of how it's been with myself on a lot of issues.

01:24:46.000 I was aware of government-sponsored terror, sir, you know, before 9-11 happened, so I was kind of on it from the get-go, but there's lots of things I noticed, you know, later, and I wonder, how did I not notice that before?

01:24:56.000 When you talk to other pilots and your colleagues and friends and, you know, people about this, you know, what do they say to you, A, and then B, what, you know, made you think, with your knowledge of piloting, that didn't fit with the official story of these four hijacked aircraft?

01:25:14.000 Uh, getting to your first question, talking to other people, for them to actually come out and face reality and face the fact that there have been false flags, it takes them out of a comfort zone.

01:25:28.000 And when they acknowledge some of these events, They're obligated to take action is what it is.

01:25:34.000 It takes them out of a comfort zone and it's a huge responsibility.

01:25:38.000 If you could imagine a person just coming off the street.

01:25:41.000 I've talked to so many of them and they just don't either don't want to get involved or they're afraid to get involved because of the responsibility that comes that follows acknowledging what the real truth is.

01:25:54.000 Well, I mean, I tell you, whenever I'm just working, there's no fear, there's no concern.

01:25:58.000 I'm totally committed.

01:25:59.000 But I talk a lot about that quiet times at night when you're going to bed.

01:26:03.000 Yeah, you know, reading a lot of literature about other people involved in dangerous situations, you know, talk about it is those quiet times.

01:26:09.000 It's not even a fear, it's more of a gutting up, and just going, I can't believe it's this bad, and I can't believe I'm in the middle of all this now, but then you're, but then I always am just reassured.

01:26:18.000 I go, well, you know, this is the right thing to do, and that'd be in more danger not fighting these people, and somebody's got to fight them.

01:26:23.000 I mean, when you went public, what was it like for you?

01:26:28.000 Well, with public, primarily with my wife and with our close friends, and real close friends, of course, pretty much we're willing to acknowledge it.

01:26:37.000 Once again, we're very involved with local politics, very progressive individuals, and so being willing to open your eyes to the truth isn't that much of a problem.

01:26:48.000 But once you go outside of that circle, it becomes very, very, very difficult.

01:26:53.000 Our organization, which is San Diegans for 9-11 Truth, here locally, we are very, very active in the local area.

01:27:05.000 In fact, this weekend our organization is having a citizen's grand jury event, of which we're going to have a number of people here.

01:27:17.000 Richard Gage, Stephen Jones on video, Kevin Ryan, a prosecutor, Don Paul from New Orleans who's coming up as the Chief Prosecutor, and I'm going to be actually testifying, an expert, a testimony concerning the

01:27:38.000 The probability that the planes were hijacked and the probability that if they were hijacked that they could have been flown and when you look at it from a standpoint of a commercial pilot It's very, very unlikely that those planes could have been actually hijacked by those individuals.

01:27:54.000 What about Honey Honjour's supposed maneuver to bring it into the Pentagon?

01:27:59.000 Once again, it would take an extremely capable pilot to have done something that, especially without any first or second tries to begin with, and without any ground navigation equipment.

01:28:12.000 So, the probability that they were hijacked Stay there, let's recap that on the other side with our guest, one of the 9-11 pilots, For Truth, on the other side.

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01:33:42.000 I played that song a few days ago because I was re-reading over an old article from 2003 when Clear Channel and several other big radio networks banned that and hundreds of other songs.

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01:33:59.000 I mean that's how manipulative and controlling.

01:34:02.000 Billions of dollars.

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01:34:04.000 I always talk about one purchase of 1.8 billion in fake news Bush did.

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01:34:13.000 I mean, is that a free society?

01:34:15.000 Fake reporters?

01:34:16.000 PR people out putting out lies? 0.98

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01:34:22.000 We're going to get to your calls.

01:34:23.000 I just want to get these great individuals up and on the show, like Commander Ted Muja.

01:34:29.000 And, Ted, we were going to break there.

01:34:32.000 Recap.

01:34:32.000 Honeyhungers maneuver what they claim.

01:34:34.000 Go through the maneuver they claim he did.

01:34:37.000 And then what supposedly happened there at the Pentagon, and then the maneuvers that were supposedly carried out that we see at both the Twin Towers.

01:34:47.000 I mean, go over that for us.

01:34:49.000 And then any other anomalies that made you question the official story after you knew scientifically from your training as an engineer in college that clearly the pancake theory was malarkey, as you said earlier.

01:35:02.000 But recap and elaborate, please.

01:35:04.000 Okay, well, the maneuver of the Pentagon was just a tight spiral coming down out of 7,000 feet.

01:35:12.000 And a commercial aircraft, while they can, in fact, structurally somewhat handle that maneuver, they're very, very, very difficult.

01:35:20.000 And it takes considerable training.

01:35:23.000 In other words, commercial aircraft are designed Well, for a particular purpose, and that is for comfort and for passengers, and it's not for military maneuvers.

01:35:35.000 And while they are structurally capable of doing them, it takes some very, very talented pilots to do that.

01:35:41.000 And also, the pilots, a lot of times in the real world, would be wearing the pressure suits for blood.

01:35:47.000 They know how to breathe.

01:35:48.000 I mean, from other pilots we've interviewed here, they say that would take some breathing and things not to pass out, correct?

01:35:54.000 That's exactly right.

01:35:55.000 And then, of course, once again, Depending on the speed of the aircraft, now the government's story on the speed, when a commercial airplane gets that high, it gets very, very close to getting into what you refer to as a high-speed stall.

01:36:12.000 And a high-speed stall can be very, very violent on a commercial-type aircraft, and you never want to get into that situation.

01:36:19.000 I just can't imagine an amateur even being able to come close to performing a maneuver of that nature.

01:36:27.000 And as far as hijacking the airplanes, once again, getting back to the nature of pilots and airplanes, there is no way that a pilot would give up an airplane to hijackers, quite frankly.

01:36:40.000 In other words, you're not going to get out of that seat and walk to the back of the airplane.

01:36:43.000 I mean, look.

01:36:43.000 Well, look.

01:36:44.000 I mean, on average, if you try... I mean, most old ladies will start whacking you with their umbrella if you try to take something from them. 1.00

01:36:51.000 Men out there, even people we consider to be wimps, will start fighting back at a certain point.

01:36:55.000 And I assure you, with four different planes, with two different pilots in each one, you're going to end up getting some fighters on one of those.

01:37:02.000 I mean, maybe one plane might give it up from the studies we've done, but four planes giving it over to these people?

01:37:08.000 I mean, frankly, most of your pilots are former military people and are pretty macho.

01:37:14.000 I mean, can you tell us about the culture of military pilots just groveling to some people with box cutters?

01:37:18.000 I mean, I know if somebody came up to me with box cutters, I'd literally... 0.98

01:37:22.000 I don't say I'm tough or anything, but if somebody starts threatening my life, I'm gonna kill them! 0.60

01:37:26.000 Actually, the culture of pilots, especially the military pilots, is very much sort of what you're saying. 0.93

01:37:32.000 I can't even imagine anyone even coming into a cockpit that belongs to a couple of pilots.

01:37:39.000 It's a strange situation up there, and for anyone to believe that pilots would give up an airplane.

01:37:44.000 I mean, hell, a guy who doesn't give up a TV remote control, much less a complicated 757. 0.61

01:37:52.000 And so to think that pilots would allow a plane to be taken over by a couple of 5'7", 150-pound guys with a one-inch blade box cutter is ridiculous.

01:38:04.000 And also on all four planes, if you remember, none of the planes ever switched on their transponder to the hijack code.

01:38:15.000 There's a very, very simple code that you put in if you suspect that your plane is being hijacked.

01:38:20.000 It takes literally just a split second for you to put your hand down on the center console and flip it over.

01:38:26.000 And not one of the four planes ever transponded to a hijack code, which is most, most unusual.

01:38:34.000 Other anomalies, I mean, again, because of your specific knowledge as a former military and commercial pilot of big planes.

01:38:40.000 Break it down for people, I mean, more of the reasons you have for questioning.

01:38:44.000 Okay, one of the other things is just actually getting into the seat itself.

01:38:48.000 If you can imagine, if you've ever gone into a cockpit, you sort of pull the seat back, you don't just comfortably slide into a cockpit seat.

01:38:57.000 You have to sort of climb over and slide in with your briefcase and everything.

01:39:02.000 Getting out is just as uncomfortable and everything.

01:39:05.000 A pilot getting out of there, if a pilot was ever confronted with anyone in the cockpit, It would take a very, very simple maneuver with the yoke.

01:39:15.000 Just shut that yoke forward just momentarily and you would plant anybody that's not strapped down up into the ceiling.

01:39:22.000 The downside of that, anybody else in the airplane that wasn't strapped down would also be...

01:39:29.000 But I know pilots talked a lot about this, especially in the 70s and 80s with all the hijackings.

01:39:33.000 I mean, wasn't it kind of the inside thing that somebody busting that door, you're going to slam them up into the ceiling?

01:39:39.000 That's exactly right.

01:39:40.000 I mean, there's no way, unless you're strapped down, that you could survive it.

01:39:45.000 I mean, you'd plant them in the ceiling and then go back the other way and then lay them on the floor.

01:39:49.000 There is no way a pilot would allow anyone to come in and confront them in the cockpit.

01:39:55.000 That's just not the nature. 0.97

01:39:58.000 It's just ridiculous.

01:39:59.000 But again, they give us this official story we're supposed to believe.

01:40:03.000 What about them being able to, on both passes, T-bone those buildings without any type of beacons or knowing where they were at?

01:40:11.000 I mean, I've talked to a lot of pilots saying that, you know, without going into airspace that they were familiar with, that, you know, that that was some pretty good navigating right there.

01:40:21.000 That's very, very good, Navigate.

01:40:23.000 Actually, once you get over about 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 feet up in the air, it's nothing but haze up there.

01:40:29.000 And unless you're extremely familiar with an area, it's impossible to navigate without ground navigation aids or global positioning computers in your airplane and operating correctly and everything.

01:40:47.000 At that altitude, you're essentially flying on instruments up there.

01:40:52.000 No, at one of the flight schools, though, they said that Anna and others got in and threw a fit and couldn't even get the Cessna off the ground.

01:41:01.000 They lied and said they could fly it.

01:41:02.000 They were just creating their history, their ledger, their background in their black ops.

01:41:07.000 And we know that we're hired by the government for whatever nefarious thing they really did.

01:41:10.000 I mean, jumping out and throwing a fit, can't get a Cessna off the ground, but you're going to fly these big planes around and hit all your targets perfectly?

01:41:18.000 Yeah, these commercial airplanes are very, very complex pieces of machines.

01:41:22.000 And they're designed for two pilots up there, not just two amateur pilots, but two qualified commercial pilots up there.

01:41:29.000 And to think that you're going to get an amateur up into the cockpit and Why, much less navigate it to a designated target, is the probability is so low that it's a border on impossible.

01:41:42.000 I mean, what would you say, 98%?

01:41:43.000 It is so close to 100% that it's negligible.

01:41:49.000 I mean, you can't even talk about it.

01:41:50.000 There is no way you can get an amateur into that cockpit and to fly a commercial airplane.

01:41:56.000 Well, I mean, we've had fighter pilots on the show and others, and they said they would have a lot of trouble, and they said they don't even know if a big plane would do that.

01:42:02.000 But they said in a fighter jet, it'd be quite a maneuver, but that they might be able to do it.

01:42:08.000 I mean, do you personally, from flying planes in Vietnam and flying big planes for Pan Am, do you think, I mean, how many times out of ten, if you had ten lives, you know, how many times out of ten could you do the maneuver they did and fly a passenger jet into the Pentagon?

01:42:22.000 Well, myself, I probably couldn't do it in the first ten times.

01:42:26.000 There have been some pilots that have tested it in a simulator with pilots in training and everything.

01:42:33.000 And in a simulator they would, out of ten times, not a one of them was able to do it the first ten times.

01:42:39.000 And this with all the assistance in the world to help them.

01:42:43.000 And this isn't trainings though, this is, I mean, you're saying pilots in simulators can't do it the first ten times.

01:42:48.000 That's exactly right.

01:42:49.000 I mean, some of the pilots that are in, pilots from 9-11-2, they tried it in a simulator in a 737 with some pilots in training, and they were not able to do it.

01:42:59.000 In fact, the instructor couldn't do it until his ninth attempt.

01:43:04.000 But the instructor on the 9th attempt, what facility was that if you can tell us?

01:43:07.000 It was a 737 simulator instructor somewhere that had sent a message over pilots for 9-11 Truth.

01:43:19.000 I want to dig that up because that's an important story to put out.

01:43:22.000 I'll get it to your folks.

01:43:24.000 I'll find it on the website and forward it on to you.

01:43:27.000 You're absolutely fabulous.

01:43:28.000 You've got to send it to Aaron at InfoWars.

01:43:31.000 I'll do that.

01:43:32.000 Well, listen, I mean there's so many other facets and I appreciate your time.

01:43:37.000 Just take a few minutes in closing, sir, to talk about the grand jury deal you're having with two great ladies I know, personally, who've kind of organized that. 0.96

01:43:44.000 And then, you know, any other facets or points you want to make about government-sponsored or criminal elements of government-sponsored terror and where you think 9-11 Truth is going in the future.

01:43:54.000 Well, I think it's slowly opening up right now.

01:43:57.000 We are getting some higher profile people mention it on major media sources, and I think that we are slowly tightening the noose.

01:44:06.000 And, of course, the individuals that are causing all of this problem...

01:44:14.000 Once again, you have to remember, they have over 2.3 trillion dollars of our taxpayers' money that they have to keep people quiet.

01:44:22.000 I mean, they do in fact have a lot of money.

01:44:25.000 And once again, getting back to our event down here, our little grand jury that we're having here, Don Paul will be the Chief Prosecutor, Jim Hoffman the Chief Investigator, and it's at San Diego State University, and it's an all-day event.

01:44:40.000 And we hope to get as much publicity as we can.

01:44:45.000 And the public is invited to that?

01:44:49.000 The public is invited.

01:44:50.000 We will be taping it and everything.

01:44:54.000 So we will have tapes for everyone and we will be getting them to the media as much as we can.

01:44:59.000 And getting back to your last question, I think we are slowly opening up the eyes of the public.

01:45:04.000 I really think it's going to happen here real, real soon.

01:45:09.000 And we're going to have some very, very exciting political times ahead of us.

01:45:15.000 My last question for you, sir.

01:45:16.000 We really appreciate you coming on, Commander.

01:45:18.000 is kind of a recap, but I'd like you to briefly elaborate.

01:45:23.000 Because I've talked to pilots, I've talked to FAA people, I've talked to former flight instructors, current flight instructors, I've talked to people that are air traffic controllers from Dallas and San Antonio and Maryland, and they all go, "Oh my gosh, those people couldn't do that." We know something's going on.

01:45:39.000 We all know.

01:45:40.000 But we just don't know who to talk to or what to say or do.

01:45:43.000 So, I mean, really, it seems like the New World Order went way too far in that all the experts and all the technicians and all the pilots and all the engineers were going to be able to Look at this and go, this is a load of baloney.

01:45:56.000 I mean, when you talk to other people, I mean, how many years after 9-11 did you start talking to folks and basically, is there a consensus?

01:46:04.000 Are people still buying into it?

01:46:06.000 People are still buying into it, but very slowly.

01:46:08.000 In fact, actually, I think it's picking up speed now.

01:46:11.000 More people are willing to open their eyes and accept the truth for what it is, however uncomfortable it may be.

01:46:19.000 And it is uncomfortable for many, many people.

01:46:22.000 But I think the story is getting out, and with efforts like yourself, And Steven Jones and Jim Fetzer and all of the organizations that are really working hard to expose the truth.

01:46:35.000 I think it's going to happen real, real soon.

01:46:40.000 Well, God bless you, my friend, and I really do appreciate you, and I'd like to get you and other pilots up in the near future to maybe have a big roundtable discussion about this, and any websites, anything else you want to put out?

01:46:52.000 Okay, we'll just mention, everyone, our local website down here is sd911truth.org.

01:46:57.000 That's our local 9-11 organization down here that's sponsoring the grand jury and actually we have events going on every week and every month down here trying to expose the truth.

01:46:57.000 sd911truth.org.

01:47:13.000 SanDiego911truth.com SD911truth.com, right?

01:47:17.000 Yes, SanDiego911truth.org.

01:47:19.000 Oh, org, excuse me.

01:47:21.000 SD, SD911truth.org.

01:47:24.000 Got it.

01:47:25.000 Well, listen, thank you so much for spending time with us, sir.

01:47:28.000 And thank you, Alex.

01:47:29.000 You bet, take care.

01:47:31.000 Well, another pilot.

01:47:32.000 There's a whole big long list we're going to be getting on the show here.

01:47:37.000 Including fighter pilot instructors and many others.

01:47:43.000 I mean, you just heard a pilot who flew planes in Vietnam and commercial aircraft, passenger aircraft, for many decades, telling you he couldn't do it the first ten tries.

01:47:52.000 He couldn't do it.

01:47:54.000 And then, of course, there would be just the physical feat of a train pilot breathing, wearing the pressure suit that keeps the blood, uh, you know, from going to your legs.

01:48:05.000 Concentrating on not passing out, and they're also trained to pass out.

01:48:09.000 They routinely pass out.

01:48:10.000 Then they have to pass out for a few seconds, and then, you know, instantly go back into, you know, command of their faculties when they wake up.

01:48:18.000 That's the maneuvers.

01:48:19.000 That's why, by 2011, half the fighter fleet will be robotic.

01:48:24.000 And after that, no humans in fighter planes, because those suckers are going to be able to literally fly circles around every other fighter plane out there that's got a human in it.

01:48:32.000 You understand?

01:48:33.000 It's the limitations of gravity.

01:48:35.000 I was reading how it was based on a true story.

01:48:44.000 It was a real event of a guy that killed his girlfriend by not having her in a seatbelt.

01:48:49.000 And then slamming on the brakes and slamming her head into the car and slamming it again. 1.00

01:48:53.000 And I heard that was actually in the movie Death Proof that Quentin Tarantino just put out part of that.

01:48:57.000 But I mean the point is people can be killed in cars just slamming on the brakes.

01:49:02.000 Say you're going 100 miles an hour and you slam along with good brakes and slam somebody's head, you know, they'll fly out the windshield.

01:49:08.000 I mean, can you imagine going 400, 500, 600 miles an hour?

01:49:12.000 And what would happen when those guys busted in the door?

01:49:16.000 Standard op for the pilots was, we're being hijacked, so what if somebody back there gets their neck broken? 0.90

01:49:21.000 We're going to go ahead and slam this guy's head in the wall. 0.84

01:49:24.000 That's what they do. 0.93

01:49:26.000 But no, these military pilots who, I mean, you read about their annex when they're on aircraft carriers and stuff.

01:49:31.000 You know, it's all about being super macho.

01:49:33.000 They're like worse than, you know, Marines. 0.91

01:49:35.000 Oh, we're just gonna, oh, get me up. 0.98

01:49:38.000 I mean, if somebody came to that door right now with box cutters, I would just assault them. 1.00

01:49:43.000 I mean, just an average man would do that.

01:49:46.000 I mean, you know that.

01:49:47.000 It's just, it's a lie.

01:49:48.000 It's a fraud.

01:49:49.000 We'll be right back with your calls.

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01:58:06.000 Rob Belchamo has called in.

01:58:09.000 He's one of the co-founders of 9-11, uh, Palace of 9-11 Truth.

01:58:13.000 And we had a former Vietnam pilot and commercial airline pilot on, uh, talking about how he couldn't do the maneuver into the Pentagon that we're told Honey Honjour did.

01:58:25.000 And he was talking about, he knew about a pilot, pilots that had done it in a simulator and couldn't do it, you know, with ten tries.

01:58:31.000 The instructor did it on the ninth.

01:58:33.000 That's how hard this is.

01:58:35.000 And that's without the G-forces that would have been on them and would have been extremely violent.

01:58:42.000 Rob is a pilot himself.

01:58:43.000 Rob, fill us in on that specifically.

01:58:46.000 Thanks for calling in because I wanted to know specifically what pilot did the test.

01:58:51.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

01:58:52.000 Thanks for taking my call.

01:58:53.000 I'll be real quick.

01:58:53.000 I know you have a full schedule.

01:58:56.000 Anyway, one of our pilots, when he joined up, he gave me a little summary of what he tried to do.

01:59:03.000 And actually, he was in the simulator on September 11th when the events were going down.

01:59:10.000 He's not only a simulator instructor, he is also a check airman, which means he gives the check rides, the tests, in the simulator and also in the aircraft, the actual aircraft.

01:59:20.000 So, they were trying to duplicate the hitting the day.

01:59:25.000 He said, after watching the events of that day, we decided to try and hit the towers with the 737.

01:59:30.000 None of the new pilots were able to do it.

01:59:32.000 And now, when he says new pilots, that doesn't mean that they were brand new pilots.

01:59:36.000 These are experienced pilots.

01:59:38.000 They were just new to the airline.

01:59:41.000 He says none of the new pilots were able to do it.

01:59:43.000 9 out of 10 times at high speeds.

01:59:45.000 450 knots plus.

01:59:48.000 He says, I couldn't even do it despite years as a Czech captain on the airplane.

01:59:53.000 I knew then that something was wrong with the story we were being told.

01:59:58.000 And then he goes on to say, please let me know how I can help out to get to the truth.

02:00:01.000 Has he gone public?

02:00:02.000 Can we interview him?

02:00:03.000 What's his name?

02:00:04.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

02:00:05.000 I'll forward the email to Kevin.

02:00:07.000 What's his name?

02:00:09.000 His name's Captain Dan Govatos.

02:00:11.000 He's flying Falcon 900s out on the West Coast right now.

02:00:15.000 And he's been a pretty good help to us.

02:00:18.000 I'll forward the email to him and also to Kevin.

02:00:22.000 Yeah, do that.

02:00:23.000 And send it on over to Paul Watson.

02:00:25.000 We're going to do a story on this.

02:00:27.000 And plug the website.

02:00:27.000 You've got a great website.

02:00:29.000 Yeah, pilotsfor911truth.org.

02:00:31.000 Of course, our film, Panora's Black Box.

02:00:33.000 That's right, Panora's Black Box.

02:00:35.000 I've been thinking about carrying that.

02:00:36.000 Thank you so much, sir.

02:00:38.000 Let's go ahead now and take a call here.

02:00:41.000 Galen's been holding.

02:00:42.000 Galen in South Dakota, thanks for holding here on the air.

02:00:46.000 Yes, good afternoon, Alex.

02:00:48.000 Hi.

02:00:51.000 I'd just like to say, keep up the good work, keep spreading the truth.

02:00:58.000 I myself have been working real hard to do that.

02:01:01.000 I've been contacting friends and family.

02:01:07.000 And having listened to your show, I've heard several good ideas out there.

02:01:14.000 And I have come up with a rubber stamp That I believe if all of your listeners out there were to get this stamp and use it, we could have as big an impact as those planes had on the towers.

02:01:35.000 Without killing anybody, what would the stamp say?

02:01:38.000 Go to Kinko's, go to Office Max, get it made for five bucks, what would it say?

02:01:42.000 Uh, actually, Alex, I've got a listing on eBay, and if your listeners will just search, Truth Loving Patriots, they can get hooked up with my eBay listing, and they can get the stamp for free, just to have to pay for the postage.

02:02:07.000 Sure, how much is it?

02:02:10.000 Postage will run about $8.00, a little less than $8.00.

02:02:17.000 What's the stamp say?

02:02:18.000 It says, Truth Loving Patriots Must See, with three exclamation points.

02:02:26.000 And then it lists 911files.net.

02:02:32.000 Two of your websites, and then 911truth.org.

02:02:36.000 Fantastic!

02:02:37.000 Good idea.

02:02:38.000 I hope folks check it out.

02:02:39.000 We'll be right back.

02:02:39.000 Or you can just go out and make your own stamp.

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02:05:44.000 Big Brother.

02:05:50.000 Mainstream media.

02:05:52.000 Government cover-ups.

02:05:53.000 You want answers?

02:05:54.000 Well, so does he.

02:05:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:06:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:06:08.000 We have the constitutional law professor coming up in about 23 minutes from now who got on a no-fly list for daring to speak of the great leader.

02:06:17.000 And then we've got Richard Kinn, David, Jeffrey, James, and I'm gonna get to your calls.

02:06:21.000 I will get to your calls.

02:06:23.000 But, we also have a James Bamford clip.

02:06:26.000 It's like eight minutes long.

02:06:27.000 It's a compilation of three different news clips.

02:06:29.000 Two of them are him on local TV in New York and other areas.

02:06:33.000 Homer 2020 News Executive wrote books about government-sponsored terror, about Operation Northwoods, and then he expanded it on how they basically staged the Iraq War.

02:06:43.000 This is stuff you never saw on the national news, so I want to play that.

02:06:46.000 So let's get through this.

02:06:48.000 But I wanted to get him on today.

02:06:49.000 He's out of block.

02:06:52.000 He works, and I've known Adam for, even before he worked for New Millennium.

02:06:56.000 I've known, I've talked to Adam for about 10 years.

02:06:59.000 Adam used to be the head honcho over at WWCR, and one of the head engineers over there, a good friend of mine.

02:07:05.000 Adam now works for New Millennium Concepts the last year and a half or so, and I just love getting him on the show.

02:07:13.000 Adam comes on every few weeks and gives us an update on water in the news, but really It's made in America.

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02:07:23.000 They've got British Berkies if you want them. 0.95

02:07:25.000 They're the national distributor.

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02:07:29.000 Their main business, ladies and gentlemen, is selling to the big suppliers and to the Army, Navy stores and the camping supply stores and to missionaries and militaries and governments.

02:07:42.000 But Adam and Debbie Morrow handle, among other things, just doing the radio interviews and taking your calls.

02:07:49.000 Because I guess back in like 1999, Jim said, why not just go directly to the people?

02:07:54.000 And so that's what we do here with several of our sponsors like Calvin Pierce soap as well.

02:07:59.000 So Adam, great to have you on with us.

02:08:02.000 Alex, thank you.

02:08:02.000 Thank you once again.

02:08:03.000 Always a pleasure to be a little part of your program here.

02:08:06.000 And you're right.

02:08:07.000 Water is in the news.

02:08:08.000 It continues to stay in the news.

02:08:09.000 This time, we're going to take a look at bottled water.

02:08:13.000 Kind of interesting, of course, late last year, the American Dental Association saying, don't use fluoride for little children under one year of age.

02:08:22.000 Don't put it in their formula.

02:08:23.000 Don't use it in their concentrate.

02:08:25.000 And then two weeks later, the FDA turns around and approves fluoride in bottled water.

02:08:32.000 Well, it's because they care about us so much.

02:08:34.000 They want to help us.

02:08:37.000 Well, you know, and I'm sure you know, but some of your audience may or may not, modern studies have linked fluoride to arthritis, allergies, kidney and thyroid dysfunction, bone damage, and cancer, even at the low levels that dentists are saying is okay to help reduce tooth decay.

02:08:56.000 And then of course there's all the herbicides, the pesticides, the oil, all the stuff.

02:09:00.000 I mean especially if you live like in Texas or Florida or some place where all the rivers come down to the rest of the country.

02:09:06.000 Just throw up all that stuff and all the sewer and all the dead bacteria.

02:09:10.000 I mean the water we drink generally in these big cities is just been recycled sewer water.

02:09:17.000 But you know what?

02:09:18.000 I mean, we're wrong.

02:09:19.000 Mercury, chlorine, it's all nutritious.

02:09:23.000 You know what?

02:09:23.000 I'm going to trust my government and I'm going to drink the water.

02:09:26.000 And I'm going to eat pet food too.

02:09:27.000 I'm going to go out and find the banned pet food names and I'm going to eat those because I've got to trust my government instead of talking bad about them so Al-Qaeda wins. 1.00

02:09:37.000 Well, unfortunately the bottled water industry is not very heavily regulated and this is one of the big problems.

02:09:43.000 I don't know if you knew this or not, Americans are buying an estimated 25 billion single serving plastic bottles of water a year.

02:09:50.000 9 out of 10 of those, from our neighborhood of 22 billion, end up in our landfill at a rate of 60 million bottles a day.

02:10:00.000 That's a lot of garbage, and it doesn't need to be.

02:10:03.000 You know, we talked last time on the show, Alex. 0.99

02:10:05.000 There's been another recall.

02:10:06.000 The FDA issuing it for a brand of mineral water coming out of Armenia.

02:10:12.000 Five brands of that particular product have been recalled because they had potential for arsenic in the bottled water.

02:10:19.000 Typically, the bottled water, here's what happens.

02:10:21.000 They're filtering for taste and smell.

02:10:24.000 And that's it.

02:10:26.000 What else are you going to find in there?

02:10:28.000 You never know sometimes.

02:10:29.000 What's the answer?

02:10:31.000 Well, they had Dannon Water kill people up in New York, what, five years ago?

02:10:36.000 Before my time here.

02:10:40.000 Well, they've had a lot of cases.

02:10:41.000 Just type into Google, bottled water kills.

02:10:45.000 I still drink it sometimes when I'm out on the road.

02:10:47.000 I've got a few brands that I trust that are local.

02:10:50.000 I'll certainly drink bottled on average over tap.

02:10:53.000 But still, it's a... Have you guys done the ratio?

02:10:56.000 I think Jim did a few years ago.

02:10:58.000 You want an average filter that does 10-12,000 gallons in the life of the system.

02:11:03.000 And then you just get new filters.

02:11:05.000 Versus how much you save if you do that versus buying it as bottled water with some just ridiculous amount.

02:11:12.000 How long does it take to pay off the filter system if you buy it?

02:11:16.000 I did do some basic work on that based on the sport bottle that we have.

02:11:21.000 And you're looking at somewhere between $0.16 to $0.24 a bottle if you go out to the store to one of these big box stores and buy cases upon cases of water and haul the stuff home.

02:11:33.000 Well, things like a sport bottle, of course, you don't have to do that.

02:11:35.000 There's no more going to the store.

02:11:36.000 There's no more storing all this water.

02:11:38.000 And I am looking specifically for the price.

02:11:44.000 The sport bottle itself, you're looking at about $0.05 a fill.

02:11:48.000 Once you go and you need a replacement cartridge, now you're talking two cents every time you fill that bottle.

02:11:54.000 Adam, you're good!

02:11:55.000 I just threw that out at you unscripted, and you knew the answer.

02:11:59.000 Well, bottom line, you've got the big Berkeys, made in America. 1.00

02:12:03.000 You've got the British Berkeys, made in England. 0.80

02:12:05.000 They're all excellent.

02:12:06.000 You've got the American-made sport bottles.

02:12:08.000 You've got it all.

02:12:09.000 Tell folks about the Sports Bottle Discount, and tell them about one of the big filter discounts, and the free gifts they get, and then give us that number.

02:12:16.000 Well, even on your website, Alex, if I'm not mistaken, you've got that five generic sport bottle deal going on for, if it's not a mistake, $99.

02:12:24.000 You can also do that by calling Debbie at 888-803-4438.

02:12:24.000 Yes.

02:12:31.000 She knows that you and I are talking today.

02:12:34.000 She is ready to hear from your listeners.

02:12:36.000 Love to talk to them because they're very, very intelligent listeners and she just gets a real tickle out of talking to them.

02:12:41.000 No, no, she's a sweetheart. 1.00

02:12:44.000 She's a wonderful, wonderful lady to work with. 1.00

02:12:46.000 Berkeywater.com.

02:12:47.000 B-E-R-K-E-Y-Water.com is our website.

02:12:51.000 If you go there, please make sure you mention there's a place you can do this that Alex Jones sent you to the site and that helps us track things and make sure Alex is taken care of.

02:13:03.000 Adam, thank you for coming on the show with us.

02:13:04.000 God bless.

02:13:05.000 Always a pleasure, Alex.

02:13:06.000 Thank you, sir.

02:13:07.000 Absolutely.

02:13:08.000 Folks, these are high quality filters.

02:13:09.000 I use it in my office.

02:13:10.000 I use it at home.

02:13:12.000 And I've got them with the post filters to knock out all the fluoride.

02:13:15.000 The sports bottles reduce it and cut everything else out.

02:13:18.000 The big filters reduce it down to 90 plus percent.

02:13:21.000 I want it all out.

02:13:24.000 I don't want my children drinking any of it.

02:13:25.000 They're going to get enough of it in the food because it's been sprayed on the crops and it goes through the membrane of the plants.

02:13:32.000 That's why they use it as a weapon because it's incredible.

02:13:38.000 Research how hard it is to filter fluoride.

02:13:41.000 It's unbelievable.

02:13:43.000 Just give them a call.

02:13:46.000 888-803-4438.

02:13:47.000 If you've been waiting and haven't done it, you're crazy.

02:13:52.000 And on top of it, you can go to InfoWars.com and order all the same stuff right off our shopping cart.

02:13:56.000 We just give them the orders each day.

02:13:58.000 And then they get them out to you.

02:13:59.000 Very high quality systems.

02:14:00.000 And I feel really good promoting these great systems.

02:14:04.000 And you get a discount.

02:14:05.000 Go try to buy a British Berkey or an American Berkey at a store.

02:14:08.000 And a $200 unit is $300 on average.

02:14:12.000 A sports bottle that's $19.95 is $35.

02:14:16.000 Go find out.

02:14:17.000 Go look into it.

02:14:18.000 Alright, let's go ahead now and go to some of your calls.

02:14:21.000 I'm going to move quicker so we can get to everybody.

02:14:23.000 Richard in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.

02:14:26.000 Hey Alex, just wanted to say that the numbers of pilots, engineers, structural engineers, and those sort of people in this country, not to mention the world, that have to be aware of the ridiculous story of the official 9-11 story has got to be just huge.

02:14:42.000 And I've got to believe we're right on the cusp of a lot of these people being brave enough and figuring out where to come forward to.

02:14:50.000 And surely this thing, in addition to all the other folks and things that are happening out there, has got to explode here shortly.

02:14:57.000 It's got the globalists scared.

02:14:58.000 We have to make sure that Bush doesn't just get the blame for it, and then America gets the blame.

02:15:02.000 We have to explain it's a larger globalist plan to get us into a war, get us demonized, get the dirty work of the New World Order done, domestically blow out our economy, and then blame it all on Bush. 0.97

02:15:13.000 Bush is horrible and needs to go to prison for the rest of his life, but Bush is a puppet, just that.

02:15:18.000 I'd also like to ask you, Alex, I'm sure you're familiar with a series of books, starting with the Handbook for the New Paradigm, and if you have any comments about that. 0.99

02:15:25.000 The origin's a bit obscure, and I think there's some good stuff in there that people might want to check out.

02:15:30.000 You know, I stand over that.

02:15:31.000 It's got some weird things in the back.

02:15:33.000 I, you know, I'm not too new-agey, my friend.

02:15:36.000 Well, yeah, okay.

02:15:37.000 I don't agree with everything that's in there, but it's interesting some of the concepts that are there in terms of people getting ready to, you know, stand on the correct side once everything does come down.

02:15:50.000 Sure, I didn't read the whole thing.

02:15:51.000 I scanned through it.

02:15:52.000 I think it's an interesting read.

02:15:54.000 and I've talked to folks that have read the whole thing.

02:15:56.000 I mean, I really probably shouldn't comment on it.

02:15:58.000 I haven't read the whole book.

02:15:59.000 I did read some of it, and I kind of flipped it to the back.

02:16:02.000 But, no, it's certainly good to shift your paradigm.

02:16:05.000 The question is, are you shifting into the actual paradigm?

02:16:07.000 And I appreciate your call.

02:16:09.000 Let's jam in another call here.

02:16:10.000 Let's talk to Ken in Atlanta.

02:16:12.000 Ken, thanks for holding.

02:16:13.000 Hey, thanks.

02:16:13.000 Go ahead.

02:16:14.000 I just want to really encourage people to put their money where their mouth is.

02:16:20.000 Alex, all that you're doing, and you know all the other people in the movement that are high profile.

02:16:26.000 I mean, we need to buy the books.

02:16:29.000 We need to buy the videos.

02:16:30.000 is Money is so critical to what we're doing.

02:16:37.000 The other thing is, I want to mention five things that, or something that every individual can do, whether they're in a town with a group or Let's say if they're not in a town with a group, just what individuals can do.

02:16:51.000 Then I want to mention five things that just show that the country is absolutely in this right-left paradigm coma.

02:17:00.000 One thing I did that anybody can do, and I encourage all the people in the 9-11 Truth Minutes to do, we've all got Wi-Fi in our house.

02:17:07.000 Rename your access point to InfoWars.com that I did.

02:17:11.000 I can see nine neighbors when I try to pull up Wi-Fi.

02:17:16.000 Um, I see what there says.

02:17:18.000 Now they're seeing Infowars.com, um, as the name of my Wi-Fi access point, and that'll get them to go there.

02:17:25.000 Um, but... Stay there.

02:17:27.000 We'll come back and real fast run through your points.

02:17:29.000 It sounds like there's ten of them, so... We got a guest coming up, and I want to get to everybody, but stay there.

02:17:34.000 It sounds interesting.

02:17:35.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.

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02:22:07.000 Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade.

02:22:13.000 The masters hung me in the spring of twenty-five.

02:22:18.000 But I am still alive.

02:22:20.000 I was a sailor, I was born upon the tide, with the sea I did abide, I sailed a school with the sea I did abide, I sailed a school around the halls Alright, welcome back.

02:22:41.000 Let's go back to Ken in Atlanta.

02:22:44.000 Ken, go ahead real fast, run through your points.

02:22:46.000 And when the odds broke off, they said that I got killed.

02:22:54.000 But I'm living still.

02:22:56.000 All right, welcome back. 1.00

02:22:57.000 I was a damn villain. 0.99

02:23:02.000 Let's go back to Ken in Atlanta. 0.99

02:23:03.000 Ken, go ahead real fast, run through your points.

02:23:06.000 Okay.

02:23:07.000 Another thing people can do is just call Radio Shins.

02:23:10.000 I called, I was on the air, on C-SPAN, and I said I'm upset that the national media is not covering what's going on in the youth detention centers in Texas.

02:23:21.000 That they did not cover what Terry Nichols released about the FBI informant.

02:23:25.000 And at that point, it's right back to the same deal going on with the FBI informant that was working with the FBI all the way up until the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

02:23:38.000 And they were totally stunned, you know.

02:23:41.000 But the whole thing got out over the air.

02:23:46.000 Let me give you a few things that I've seen on C-SPAN that just tell me this country's asleep.

02:23:52.000 Gingrich comes on, he spends 55 minutes saying that conservatives are losing because they're not physically conservative anymore, and then in the last five minutes of his speech, he says that That American taxpayers should look at the drug money that's going into Afghanistan, and that we should replace that with American tax dollars.

02:24:17.000 And there was no reaction to it.

02:24:19.000 That is insane.

02:24:21.000 Are you kidding?

02:24:22.000 Mainline conservatives think open borders and gun control is now conservative.

02:24:28.000 On October 14, 2006 on C-SPAN, Brzezinski was in a little panel with Walter Russell Mead from Council of Foreign Relations, between him is sitting Margaret Warner from PBS, and they're talking about the consolidation of North American countries, and Brzezinski says consolidation is inevitable.

02:24:56.000 No reaction.

02:24:57.000 Yeah, that means North American Union.

02:24:59.000 I read the news articles about him saying the government might stage an event to go into Iran.

02:24:59.000 Here's the deal.

02:25:03.000 I read the news when he talked about North American consolidation integration.

02:25:09.000 I don't have the staff to cover all this.

02:25:11.000 I said I wanted to buy those from C-SPAN.

02:25:12.000 Can somebody get those and get them to me?

02:25:15.000 I will.

02:25:17.000 Because more than even monetary stuff, we need people to send us tapes and things with it labeled telling us where it is.

02:25:25.000 Because we just, there's so much media, we can't watch it all.

02:25:28.000 I'll try, I'll get it to you.

02:25:31.000 But that's the incredible thing, is they publish books, they go on TV, they admit all this stuff, and then when you say you're against it, they go, you're crazy, it doesn't exist.

02:25:38.000 Uh, Chertoff, Chertoff spent an hour talking about how international law is going to take over our law.

02:25:44.000 An hour he spent on this.

02:25:46.000 And then the crowd cheered when it was over.

02:25:49.000 Yay! 0.99

02:25:50.000 The death of America! 0.52

02:25:53.000 Yay! 1.00

02:25:54.000 Oh, we love being idiots! 1.00

02:25:55.000 And that was like a, I can't forget, I can't remember who they are, like a lawyers group, I can't remember what they were. 1.00

02:26:00.000 Yeah, you gotta understand folks, they all go to pose in their suits and look for business deals and act like they're elitists.

02:26:06.000 It's all about if I just lick the boots of the establishment, I'll move forward.

02:26:09.000 So don't feel bad because you watch hand-picked audiences worship a demon.

02:26:14.000 Let me tell you, the public's waking up, brother.

02:26:19.000 I work for a high-profile I'm not in the website part of the company now.

02:26:26.000 I've got probably a million people a day.

02:26:27.000 By the way, I have a tool that costs my company $20,000 a year to get access to this data.

02:26:35.000 And I'm looking at the amount of traffic going to Infowars.com.

02:26:39.000 And people, we are winning.

02:26:43.000 Infowars.com is above Clark Howard.

02:26:47.000 Rush Limbaugh and O'Reilly sites are just tanking.

02:26:50.000 They're just tanking.

02:26:53.000 I had to deal with a situation where we had a fraud case of a guy coming in.

02:26:59.000 He's using hundreds of credit cards.

02:27:03.000 He's spending all day.

02:27:03.000 I can tell when this guy's sleeping, because when he's sleeping, he's not ordering with somebody else's credit card.

02:27:08.000 And I'm having to stop these orders and deal with all this stuff.

02:27:11.000 He had a Muslim name, not that that matters, but it was a name.

02:27:19.000 It's a known name.

02:27:21.000 Well, here's the deal.

02:27:22.000 Sure, listen, you're a great caller.

02:27:23.000 I love callers like you.

02:27:24.000 Just call back another day, man.

02:27:26.000 I gotta go.

02:27:26.000 We're out of time.

02:27:27.000 We got a guest coming up.

02:27:28.000 I want to jam in the other calls later, too.

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02:31:31.000 Professor Walter F. Murphy sits in the famous chair that was set up for President Woodrow Wilson when he was at Princeton.

02:31:40.000 And he is a jurisprudence scholar, a legal expert, lawyer, a constitutional law expert, you name it, one of the top people in the country.

02:31:48.000 And I've seen some of his papers in the past, just studying different cases, and he was the go-to guy, one of just a handful And so one of the top people in the country, I guess it's what got the administration so angry, and they put senators on the list, congressmen on the list, they've

02:32:04.000 They put war heroes on the list, many anti-war activists with no criminal record that try to come to events we put on, don't make it, because they're just not allowed to fly, or you're on the watch list and they ransack and interrogate you and pull your pants down.

02:32:19.000 We were on a list that's international up in Canada.

02:32:22.000 Well, you ought to see it.

02:32:23.000 When I come back in the country, they just, their eyes, people come over there and look at the passport and you think a four-alarm fire has happened, but then I've been off the list for a while, so that hasn't happened.

02:32:32.000 But here's the article.

02:32:34.000 Professor, who criticized Bush, added to terrorist no-fly list on a Raw Story, a top constitutional scholar from Princeton, and they got this on one of the big legal sites, who gave a televised speech that slammed President George W. Bush's executive overreach, recently learned that he had been added to the Transportation Security Administration's terrorist watch list.

02:32:53.000 He shared his experience this weekend at the Law Blog Balkanization.

02:32:58.000 Walter F. Murphy, the McCormick Professor of Juris Prudence Emeritus at Princeton University attempted to check his luggage at the curbside in Albuquerque, New Mexico before boarding the plane to Newark, New Jersey.

02:33:09.000 Murphy was told he could not use the service.

02:33:12.000 I was denied a boarding pass because I was on the terrorist watch list, he said, when inquiring with a clerk.

02:33:17.000 Uh, why he was on the list.

02:33:18.000 Murphy was asked if he had participated in any peace marches.

02:33:22.000 We ban a lot of people from flying because of that, a clerk said.

02:33:26.000 And then it goes on to talk about how he had never been part of the peace march, but in September 2006 had given a lecture at Princeton, televised and put on the web, highly critical of George Bush for his many violations of the Constitution, Murphy said.

02:33:39.000 to the publication.

02:33:40.000 The clerk responded, that'll do it.

02:33:42.000 And it goes on, they said, you will be ransacked.

02:33:45.000 And they did steal his luggage, tear it all apart, didn't get it, and they did ransack him.

02:33:50.000 That's how it works.

02:33:52.000 Then the neocons are denying this even goes on.

02:33:54.000 No, it's admitted they have an enemies list that makes Nixon or Hillary Clinton's look tame.

02:33:59.000 And again, joining us is Professor Walter F. Murphy, the McCormick Jurisprudence Chair at Princeton University.

02:34:07.000 Thanks for coming on, sir.

02:34:08.000 Oh, you're welcome.

02:34:10.000 Just out of the gates, let's just go to the beginning of this.

02:34:13.000 Okay.

02:34:14.000 What did you say in the speech, you know, about the Fuhrer principle with the President declaring absolute executive godhood, basically?

02:34:24.000 I mean, let's go over that, the evil stuff that has you marked as a terrorist now, and then let's go into what actually happened to you at the airport, sir.

02:34:31.000 Okay, quickly.

02:34:32.000 First, I'm not a lawyer.

02:34:35.000 I have a doctorate of philosophy.

02:34:37.000 Princeton doesn't have a law school, which gave me much more freedom.

02:34:41.000 By the way, my luggage was lost.

02:34:44.000 I don't know whether it was stolen or not.

02:34:46.000 It eventually showed up.

02:34:47.000 The article says ransacked.

02:34:49.000 It was ransacked.

02:34:50.000 That's what one of the people I talked to at American Airlines said.

02:34:56.000 They would do.

02:34:57.000 I don't know.

02:34:57.000 I mean, as I said, my luggage disappeared for about six hours.

02:35:01.000 Seven hours, maybe.

02:35:03.000 Maybe even longer.

02:35:04.000 I don't know.

02:35:04.000 But it showed up sometime between 11.30 and 6 a.m.

02:35:07.000 the next morning.

02:35:09.000 Okay.

02:35:10.000 My talk was essentially a critique of Bush's claim, I am the decider, that he could ignore acts of Congress, that he didn't have to go to the courts to get warrants, etc.

02:35:20.000 And I just put against his claims, this is only one of many, James Madison had a definition of tyranny, and Madison wrote that when all power is concentrated in the hands of one man, one department, or one institution, you have the very essence of tyranny.

02:35:43.000 And then I contrasted that with Bush's definition, I am the decider, and how he didn't have to Talk or be curbed by anyone else.

02:35:52.000 Then I compared it to, first of all, saying I'm not accusing Bush of being a Nazi.

02:35:57.000 I don't think he is.

02:35:58.000 But I did say it's interesting that the apologist for Nazism, a philosopher named Carl Schmitt, wrote about during the time of the rise of Hitler, The parliaments and congresses, legislatures in general, were just not able to cope with crises.

02:36:19.000 And what you needed was a dictator.

02:36:21.000 A man who could have all power in his hands and could make binding decisions for the common good.

02:36:28.000 And that seems to me to be Bush's model.

02:36:32.000 I don't think he knew about it.

02:36:33.000 I don't think Bush could even read Carl Schmitt.

02:36:39.000 But without realizing it, He was following Carl Schmitt's ...

02:36:45.000 Well, Bush may be a burnout or whatever, but the people around him went to the Straussian school with pretty much ...

02:36:53.000 I went to the Straussian school, too, by the way.

02:36:57.000 And this angers me because Leo Strauss would have vomited on George Bush.

02:37:03.000 He was not this kind of conservative, and his daughter has written a long article rebutting the neocons who claim to be Straussians.

02:37:14.000 They have nothing in common with Leo Strauss.

02:37:17.000 Okay, well, please explain that to us.

02:37:19.000 I mean, did Strauss really push Machiavelli?

02:37:24.000 No. 0.98

02:37:25.000 Strauss, by the way, used to refer to Carl Schmitt as that whore, Carl Schmitt. 0.96

02:37:31.000 Uh, and Strauss had debated him in public in Germany. 0.79

02:37:34.000 Uh, Strauss was opposed to this kind of thing.

02:37:38.000 Uh, and I don't know where these neocons got their Strausses. 0.95

02:37:41.000 I took four courses with Leo Strauss as a graduate student and knew him well.

02:37:46.000 Uh, and they can't claim any heritage from him.

02:37:50.000 Why did they do that?

02:37:51.000 I have no idea.

02:37:52.000 I don't know any of these people and I frankly don't want to know any of them.

02:37:57.000 Okay, well please continue.

02:37:59.000 I mean, so you gave the speech, or is there more to the speech?

02:38:03.000 Yeah, I gave the speech.

02:38:04.000 It was televised and put on the web.

02:38:06.000 And the speech, as I said, I think I've summarized.

02:38:10.000 I didn't go into great detail, because it took 45 minutes to deliver.

02:38:14.000 But that's the gist of it.

02:38:16.000 Bush, by this dictatorial notion of the presidency, was destroying the Constitution, which is built on a notion of limited power.

02:38:27.000 The Congress checks the President, the President checks Congress, both check the courts, and the courts check both check the courts.

02:38:33.000 And Professor, doesn't history show that you want those checks and balances?

02:38:37.000 Because you always end up getting some rampant dictator over time, somebody bad is going to get the levers, and it always leads to insane excesses like Nero or Caligula.

02:38:47.000 I mean, how do they get in the mindset that You know, this centralized power, like Alberto Gonzales has written, where, you know, I mean, they've said it.

02:38:54.000 I mean, it does sound like the German you were talking about.

02:38:58.000 Yeah.

02:38:58.000 Well, everybody, of course, thinks that he is above sin.

02:39:03.000 Not everybody, but a lot of people.

02:39:04.000 And they don't have to worry about themselves.

02:39:06.000 They won't abuse power.

02:39:09.000 And, of course, of that human nature being what it is, everybody does eventually abuse power, even though they may start out with great moral thoughts in their mind.

02:39:23.000 But in any case, after the speech, well, not as long after the speech, I gave the speech in September, and then in March I tried to fly, and the clerk from the check-in man at American Airlines told me that, sorry, I couldn't have a boarding pass.

02:39:44.000 Because he said you're on the terrorist watch list.

02:39:47.000 I assumed it was my fault because I got... My children would say I'm so 19th century about working computers and so forth that I probably triggered the wrong buttons.

02:40:01.000 In any event, he said you have to go inside.

02:40:04.000 So I went inside and talked to a clerk.

02:40:07.000 And he said, yes, I was on the watch list.

02:40:09.000 I said, but that can't be.

02:40:11.000 And you know, I'm a retired colonel in the Marine Corps.

02:40:13.000 I fought in Korea, was wounded in battle and decorated for what the Marine Corps said was heroism, though.

02:40:19.000 I doubt it.

02:40:19.000 That's right, though.

02:40:20.000 I'd forgotten about that.

02:40:21.000 You're a combat veteran of Korea and a colonel in the Marine Corps.

02:40:24.000 Yeah.

02:40:25.000 And so I said, you know, that can't be.

02:40:27.000 I showed him my military carry.

02:40:30.000 Always carry my Marine Corps ID around in my pocket, and I showed it to him, and he was sympathetic.

02:40:37.000 So was the man outside.

02:40:39.000 Both were very sympathetic and said, well, the guy inside said, well, look, if you don't mind, let me take this, and I'll go inside, and I'll talk to the people.

02:40:50.000 He said, I assume the people were the TSA people, though I didn't see.

02:40:54.000 He went into a door, I mean, through a door, and came back in about, oh, I guess it was ten minutes.

02:41:01.000 It seemed like ten hours.

02:41:02.000 Now, I mean, let's be clear.

02:41:03.000 A lot of times they just don't let you fly, so I guess because you're, you know, a veteran and a Marine Corps Colonel, maybe that even got you to be able to fly.

02:41:12.000 I don't know.

02:41:12.000 I mean, by the way, you know, I don't know whether you're familiar with the way the Homeland Security draws up its various lists.

02:41:22.000 Essentially, they get information from the CIA and the FBI and then draw up a list.

02:41:29.000 Now the list is drawn up, we don't know who draws it up, it's drawn up in secret.

02:41:35.000 And the Homeland Security has refused to tell us what criteria it uses to put people on or off the list.

02:41:43.000 So essentially what we have is a secret list, a list drawn up by people Who's names we don't know, in secret, and who's criteria they use, we don't know.

02:41:55.000 I mean, Franz Kafka would have a marvelous time writing a novella about this.

02:42:00.000 It is Kafkaesque.

02:42:03.000 It is Kafkaesque.

02:42:03.000 I mean, that's the only word to describe it.

02:42:09.000 has apparently said that I'm not sure, I can't, I'm not sure I'm on the list.

02:42:14.000 Well, nobody's sure he's on the list because TSA and Homeland Security won't tell anybody.

02:42:19.000 And for those that don't know, with cop codes, it's kind of the precursor of 1984, but he's tried and executed and they never even tell him what he did, and the people that are sentencing him don't even know.

02:42:30.000 And literally here, now they have this international crime database, and they're telling check cashing places, if you're on suspected of crime, they can't cash your checks.

02:42:39.000 Now they're admitting that when you go buy a car or a house, you're being run through this.

02:42:43.000 Now they're saying that what meals you order, or what you've bought with your credit card history with the NSA, watching with the Total Information Awareness Network that's been enforced the whole time, that that's all indexed in here.

02:42:54.000 So it's even, I guess, computers, just some algorithm also decides this.

02:43:00.000 Yes.

02:43:01.000 And what we think, but we don't know.

02:43:06.000 The Homeland Security people will not tell us what they use.

02:43:11.000 And we don't know, you know, if it's my computers, we don't know what the algorithm is.

02:43:16.000 Sure.

02:43:16.000 Well, Doctor, I interrupt, you go back.

02:43:18.000 So he goes in for 10 minutes with your Marine Corps Colonel ID, he comes back out, what happens?

02:43:22.000 And he gives me my ID card.

02:43:23.000 I mean, he gives me my boarding passes.

02:43:25.000 You can go on board.

02:43:26.000 And it may not have been that clerk, but one other employee of American Airlines there.

02:43:31.000 It may have been the man Uh, from the, uh, who tried to check me in first.

02:43:37.000 One of them said, uh, yeah, you can get on board, but they're going to ransack your luggage.

02:43:43.000 Uh, and one of them had asked me about how, as you recounted, had I been on any peace marches and that, that, that story, which is, which is true.

02:43:52.000 I mean, you were kind of exactly as it happened.

02:43:56.000 Uh, and I was allowed to fly, uh, and coming back, uh, Maybe mere coincidence, but coming back my luggage was quote lost end quote.

02:44:07.000 It showed up As I said earlier, I'm not sure exactly... Oh, no, no.

02:44:11.000 I mean, let me tell you, because I fly all the time, and I'm sure you do too, but no, I mean, it's been in the news.

02:44:15.000 So, your suspicion is correct, and I can pull the articles up and send them to you if you want them.

02:44:19.000 What happens is, basically, now we hear that after 9-11 and new systems, 20% is lost.

02:44:24.000 No.

02:44:25.000 If they search it, they don't wait for the plane.

02:44:28.000 It's pushed over to a big pile, and then when they get to it, they get it.

02:44:31.000 It flies on the next plane, and then they ship it to your hotel.

02:44:34.000 So, it's also costing the airlines a lot of money.

02:44:37.000 Yes.

02:44:38.000 Well, apparently what happened to me, because it wasn't there when I arrived, and it came... I finally went to sleep, because it was 11.30 my time, and it was 1.30 in the morning by the time I'd gotten up, but I was getting tired.

02:44:56.000 So I got up the next morning, the luggage was there.

02:45:00.000 So... Yeah, that's how it works.

02:45:02.000 So, I mean, have you contacted the Homeland Security?

02:45:06.000 I have.

02:45:07.000 But as I said, they won't tell me whether I'm on the list or not.

02:45:10.000 You've got to love that.

02:45:13.000 Yeah, I do.

02:45:14.000 As I said, it's a list compiled in secret by people who are secret using secret criteria.

02:45:20.000 I mean, this is even worse, though.

02:45:22.000 I mean, to remain secret, this is even worse than guilty until proven innocent in some type of Napoleonic or...

02:45:29.000 I've got a flight tomorrow.

02:45:30.000 I'm going to a conference tomorrow at the University of Texas Law School.

02:45:33.000 I hope.

02:45:33.000 You can't, even though you're considered guilty, go disprove it.

02:45:37.000 They just say, sorry, we won't even talk to you.

02:45:39.000 I mean, this harassment will just continue.

02:45:42.000 Yes, I hope it does.

02:45:44.000 I've got a fly tomorrow.

02:45:45.000 I'm going to the conference tomorrow at the University of Texas Law School, I hope.

02:45:50.000 And I may or may not make it.

02:45:55.000 So we'll see.

02:45:57.000 You know what I do?

02:45:58.000 I've learned to pack everything, even if it's a week-long business trip, and fold suits up in a little bitty bag, and then I just carry that sucker on with me or I never get my bags.

02:46:07.000 Well, that's what I'm doing.

02:46:09.000 I'm not carrying.

02:46:10.000 I'm not carrying.

02:46:12.000 I mean, you're not checking anything.

02:46:14.000 It's all coming with it.

02:46:16.000 Now, Doctor, have you heard the latest?

02:46:17.000 They want to put, quote, Viper teams in all the subways and at bus terminals and in random searches at shopping malls.

02:46:24.000 I can send you Miami Herald.

02:46:26.000 Oh, my God.

02:46:27.000 No, I'm not kidding.

02:46:28.000 So now, see, they train us in the airports.

02:46:30.000 Now it's going to be everywhere.

02:46:31.000 Yeah.

02:46:32.000 Well, Big Brother is joining us.

02:46:36.000 I mean, does that validate your speech, though, about... Oh, of course.

02:46:38.000 I mean, this is... I mean, the only... Take a couple of...

02:46:42.000 Well, in fact, that's the point I make a lot.

02:46:44.000 Making dictators act like dictators, though, is a pretty quick way to escalate them out of business, isn't it?

02:46:49.000 goes about proving that I was absolutely right, except, not absolutely, that I was much too mild.

02:46:55.000 Well, in fact, that's the point I make a lot, that making dictators act like dictators, though, is a pretty quick way to escalate them out of business, isn't it?

02:47:06.000 It must be, I hope.

02:47:08.000 I mean, that's why I've gone public.

02:47:11.000 I've waited several weeks before saying anything, you know, beyond speaking to friends.

02:47:18.000 But I just decided that if I lie back and do nothing, because at least I have some access to the news media, if not to any political power, if I sit back and do nothing, then nobody has

02:47:35.000 I'm in a better position than most people, because at least I have my Marine Corps background, I have academic background, and I have a number of friends and former students who are in the various media, and I have some access.

02:47:51.000 Well, I mean, isn't this really a new blacklist, but it's computerized and secret? 0.65

02:47:55.000 I mean, you can't even go into the Un-American Committee and say, hey, darn it, I'm not a red. 0.79

02:48:01.000 Yeah. 0.80

02:48:02.000 Here they just say this is the way it is.

02:48:04.000 Yeah.

02:48:05.000 That's exactly it.

02:48:06.000 And I filled out the forms for the online security to get off the list that I may or may not be on.

02:48:15.000 And they require a A birth certificate.

02:48:21.000 Well, I've given them a passport, my marine ID, I've given them a copy of my award and distinguished service cross, but I suspect they're going to tell me I've got to go spend two weeks getting a birth certificate.

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02:52:02.000 We'll get him back on.

02:52:03.000 I just wanted to play the clips.

02:52:04.000 I'm sorry I didn't today.

02:52:05.000 Too many guests, too much information.

02:52:07.000 Talking to the professor from Princeton, and got a chair there, and one of the big recognized experts on jurisprudence and the law, now on the thought criminal list.

02:52:19.000 Where would you like to see this go in the future?

02:52:22.000 Well, let me ask this first.

02:52:23.000 We were talking during the break about Bush's new Praetoriate.

02:52:26.000 Where the Capitol Police are Congressional, but they're following orders from Homeland Security now.

02:52:30.000 The Executive is basically bossing the Legislative around.

02:52:33.000 I mean, that's unheard of.

02:52:35.000 This is literal Caesar behavior.

02:52:37.000 We've got the Federal Pretoriate at the airports and now, in quote, infrastructure protection infesting everything with Secret List.

02:52:45.000 Well, I fear we're slipping that way.

02:52:46.000 And how do we stop it?

02:52:46.000 to put innocent people every month on a list just to keep numbers for a threat assessment up, families that take photographs, or you know the whole story.

02:52:54.000 So is it becoming a Pretoria, and then how do we stop it? - Well, I fear we're slipping that way.

02:53:00.000 And how do we stop it?

02:53:01.000 I think the first thing to do is, we've got to get, people have to become aware of what's going on.

02:53:09.000 I've found a lot of people to whom I've talked about this so I've shrugged their shoulders.

02:53:15.000 One very well-known attorney shrugged his shoulders and said, welcome to the real world.

02:53:22.000 Just taking this kind of conduct is what we should expect.

02:53:26.000 We shouldn't, and we ought to protest.

02:53:28.000 People who are treated as I was should go to the media.

02:53:32.000 People, and they should also get in touch with their senators and their congressmen, women and protest and ask and follow up what did you do I think the the immediate solution is to have new legislation which would set up a kind of statutory Bill of Rights for those of us who have to travel and are subjected to these kinds of checks would set up procedures Hey, it's real simple.

02:54:00.000 If somebody doesn't have an APB out of them and you don't have a reason to arrest somebody, you don't stop them from flying.

02:54:06.000 Uh, yeah.

02:54:08.000 Well, I can see If there is somebody who the CIA knows is a terrorist.

02:54:15.000 Yeah, but that's the CIA involved in our domestic life. 0.99

02:54:18.000 Yeah, but they could, and I don't like that, but they could notify the FBI.

02:54:23.000 Of course, they're both so protective of their own turf that whether they'll tell the FBI or not is another matter.

02:54:30.000 But they could, and I don't object to that if you have, say, Obama from Al-Qaeda who flies in from some foreign country. 0.65

02:54:40.000 Yeah, but see, that's international, man.

02:54:42.000 This is not me trying to fly to Dallas from Austin.

02:54:44.000 35-minute flight.

02:54:45.000 Yeah, well...

02:54:48.000 That, I mean, the more domestic you get, the more bothersome it becomes.

02:54:55.000 And, again, there are people in this country who might be terrorists.

02:55:00.000 Oh, the interesting thing is, you know, the people who blew up the Oklahoma City Federal Courthouse are all good native-born Americans.

02:55:09.000 Oh, they sure were.

02:55:10.000 Listen, we're out of time, Professor.

02:55:12.000 I really appreciate the time you gave us.

02:55:13.000 Any websites or anything you want to put up?

02:55:15.000 No, but thank you.

02:55:16.000 I don't have a website.

02:55:18.000 Well, people can just go to our website so they can look at the stories that you've been quoted in, and we hope you get off the thought criminal list.

02:55:24.000 I hope so, too.

02:55:26.000 I was, I think, purified.

02:55:28.000 Thanks for joining us.

02:55:29.000 Sure thing.

02:55:30.000 Bye.

02:55:30.000 Take care.

02:55:31.000 See, there you have a veteran.

02:55:32.000 Served his country.

02:55:33.000 He still doesn't get the big picture.

02:55:34.000 He will, though.

02:55:35.000 Don't worry.

02:55:38.000 Well, we can have the CIA telling us who the terrorists are.

02:55:41.000 Running drills and flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center and Pentagon that morning at the exact same time.

02:55:46.000 Yeah, I'm sure they could tell us.

02:55:49.000 And he's darn right.

02:55:50.000 The folks at Bomba City were native-born.

02:55:52.000 They came right out of Pennsylvania Avenue.

02:55:55.000 I'm out of time here.

02:55:57.000 God bless you all.

02:55:58.000 Visit InfoWars.com and InfoWars.net.

02:56:01.000 Peruse the Safe, Secure Online Shopping Cart, the Video and Bookstore.

02:56:04.000 And support us, because, uh, plus it's the InfoWar, the tools you need for the fighter right there.

02:56:08.000 And don't forget PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:56:11.000 Alright, we will, uh, have more big guests tomorrow.

02:56:13.000 Your calls, tons of news.

02:56:15.000 I didn't get to half the stack, but c'est la vie, so is life.

02:56:17.000 I'll see you tomorrow.

02:56:18.000 Bon voyage!

Alex Jones Show - April 11, 2007

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