Alex Jones Show - 20070412_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones. . . .

00:00:33.000 Welcome.

00:00:34.000 It is already the twelfth day of April 2007.

00:00:35.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:43.000 Welcome.

00:00:44.000 It is already the 12th day of April, 2007.

00:00:48.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:51.000 Wide open telephones.

00:00:53.000 Kurt Vonnegut died yesterday.

00:00:57.000 I was shocked when I... I was a fan of several of his books and short stories.

00:01:04.000 When I turned the computer on last night when I got home about one o'clock from work, and there it was, Kurt Vonnegut dead, I was very close to getting Kurt Vonnegut on the show.

00:01:18.000 I was contacted by Kurt Vonnegut's people About a year ago, a little over a year ago, on my wall I have a little lithograph artwork that Kurt Vonnegut did that he hand-signed and mailed to me of a birdcage open with the bird gone, I guess the sign of freedom.

00:01:40.000 And I don't know, I don't know if I should tell you what I know about Kurt Vonnegut, but I figure going to the grave This iconoclast, one of the last living literary icons of the 20th century.

00:02:02.000 Very interesting person.

00:02:04.000 He, of course, was captured in the Battle of the Bulge against the Nazis.

00:02:08.000 He was in a POW camp when Dresden was bombed by the Allies.

00:02:12.000 And then, of course, wrote Slaughterhouse-Five, because that's where they literally stayed.

00:02:19.000 We put it into science fiction terms where he's teleported back in time.

00:02:24.000 Kurt Vonnegut is dead.

00:02:26.000 And I'm going to think about it.

00:02:29.000 You know, this morning I'm going to take that picture off the wall, take it up here, because I wasn't going to scan it and put it on the web, you know, while he was still alive.

00:02:35.000 But I figure he's dead now and it's interesting.

00:02:39.000 I forgot to bring it from the house here to the office to scan it in.

00:02:43.000 I might send somebody over to my house to get it and put a story together about it.

00:02:51.000 Well I'll tell you about Kurt Vonnegut, I'll tell you what, when we start the next hour because I need to think about what I want to say and how I want to say it.

00:03:05.000 Who knows, in an hour I may say nothing at all.

00:03:08.000 I may not even put that piece of art that Kurt did that he mailed me just out of the clear blue sky and then I had a chance to Oh, it doesn't matter.

00:03:23.000 All right, we've got all this serious news today.

00:03:29.000 They want a new war czar.

00:03:31.000 They want to completely abolish what's left of the Fourth Amendment.

00:03:34.000 Really, there's nothing left, but they want to publicly announce it.

00:03:38.000 Meanwhile, you've got the big Don Imus distraction diversion.

00:03:43.000 Rosie O'Donnell is right when she said that what he said is distasteful, but here come the thought police.

00:03:48.000 Who's next?

00:03:49.000 And one of the Neocon websites was crowing for her firing.

00:03:54.000 And I was kind of agnostic on the subject until last night.

00:03:57.000 Fox News was on in the background monitoring the CIA channel.

00:04:03.000 And there was Bill O'Reilly talking with Al Sharpton, so I thought here are two equally distasteful individuals.

00:04:11.000 I will just turn The television set up and see what they're saying.

00:04:16.000 O'Reilly thinks it's wonderful.

00:04:17.000 Let's fire everyone.

00:04:19.000 He's calling for a national jihad, a witch hunt, a new Red Scare to fire anyone and everyone who says anything that is even slightly controversial. 0.98

00:04:36.000 And I'll say it again, CPS in New York can take black kids and feed them pesticides until they die, in test, and the black community isn't going to say a word because the media isn't going to pick up on it. 0.95

00:04:47.000 But people are going to... I mean, I've gotten hundreds of emails about this and a bunch of phone calls. 0.98

00:04:51.000 Why aren't you talking about I.M.I.S.?

00:04:53.000 Well, I looked into I.M.I.S., and I'll tell you what I think about that when we get back.

00:04:57.000 We'll be right back.

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00:08:02.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:14.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.

00:08:33.000 Again, Kurt Vonnegut died yesterday.

00:08:35.000 I'm going to comment on my tenuous communications with Kurt Vonnegut and the nice note that he sent me and the piece of art he sent me.

00:08:50.000 And I want to read a little bit from Slaughterhouse-Five.

00:08:54.000 Coming up, and I'll do that in the next hour, we're going to have wide open phones today.

00:09:02.000 We don't have any people scheduled for the show, which I like doing from time to time, just take phone calls and cover news.

00:09:15.000 Let me just read you some of the headlines we've got here in front of us today.

00:09:19.000 Three generals spurn the position of war czar.

00:09:24.000 Bush announces he wants a war czar yesterday and within hours three generals have already said they don't want the job.

00:09:30.000 Bush seeks overseer for Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:09:33.000 So we'll get into Bush wants a war czar and leading into this report as well.

00:09:43.000 Also we will get into some new big eminent domain laws as they try to expand eminent domain that is land grabbing your property Also, last week I saw two separate articles pointing out that the Tillman family believes that there is more, could be more, than just friendly fire in the death of Pat Tillman.

00:10:13.000 And we did talk to Kevin Tillman about six, seven months ago repeatedly.

00:10:18.000 We did talk to Kevin Tillman's best friend, who was also friends with Pat, They said that, oh, well, we'll probably come on later.

00:10:27.000 Right now is not the time.

00:10:28.000 And then next time we tried the number, it was disconnected and we were unable to get back in touch with Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother, and others.

00:10:36.000 And they told us some things over the phone that I didn't really want to repeat on air.

00:10:42.000 But I did just say that there are people out there in the community who were not buying the story that

00:10:53.000 Pat was killed in Friendly Fire and now it's emerged that he did write letters, he did make statements that he abhorred, he told family he abhorred the Iraq War, that Iraq was not involved, that he'd been to Iraq and of course he'd also been to Afghanistan and that it was wrong what was happening and we know that he was making noises about going public.

00:11:15.000 Now if you think they're going to let their poster boy, Mr. NFL A football star, who they'd already made into a big hero, go shoot his mouth off about what he'd seen in Iraq and Afghanistan, you've got another thing coming.

00:11:33.000 And we held back on writing an article on this.

00:11:35.000 I ammed a few of these to Paul Watson last week, and I guess he didn't do a story on it.

00:11:40.000 We need to do one on it.

00:11:41.000 I need to go do more research and kind of recodify all the research I've already done.

00:11:45.000 That's kind of how my research goes.

00:11:47.000 I pick up a piece here, a piece there, and then A year later, I've got all the pieces and I'm like, but I gotta go pick them up again and put them back together.

00:11:55.000 I've come across all the pieces, but I need to kind of reconfigure it all.

00:12:03.000 Because that's the problem.

00:12:04.000 There's just too much news here.

00:12:05.000 And in tying into the whole Pat Tillman thing, there's new developments on that today.

00:12:11.000 Remember Private Lynch?

00:12:14.000 The convoy lost in the dust storm during the takeover of Iraq in 2003 in late March and they get caught by an Iraqi patrol and they claim that the Iraqis killed almost everybody in her group but a few survivors and that she went like Audie Murphy I mean, you're a liberal and you're not for it.

00:12:37.000 machine gun and literally just shot dozens of them and then fought them with a dagger and was killing men.

00:12:43.000 And just, she's so powerful.

00:12:44.000 We need women in frontline combat. 1.00

00:12:47.000 You know, what Clinton tried, everybody freaked out about Bush was pushing, and everybody said, well, that's conservative.

00:12:52.000 Absolutely.

00:12:53.000 You know, bordering me, it opens conservative too.

00:12:56.000 Assault weapon bans are conservative.

00:12:58.000 You're a liberal.

00:12:59.000 I mean, you're a liberal and you're not for it.

00:13:02.000 And I ain't no liberal.

00:13:05.000 And then it started coming out that Jerry Bruckheimer had been contacted when they knew what hospital she was in.

00:13:10.000 And for three days, the two and a half days, the Iraqi doctors were pointing out, no one's here, the troops have pulled out, you're in control, you're just a mile away.

00:13:19.000 We've got several of your soldiers, including Private Lynch, we've got some dead bodies we collected as well.

00:13:24.000 You know, we're pro-America, as most Iraqis were at the time.

00:13:28.000 They believed all the propaganda.

00:13:30.000 Please come get her. 1.00

00:13:31.000 And so they contacted Bruckheimer by sat link.

00:13:35.000 He instructed the special forces how to go in, how to kick the doors in a run lock, how to make it look like it was a daring raid.

00:13:41.000 Then they put out the story about how she fought people hand-to-hand with a dagger and was just like G.I. Jane or something, you know, destroying Spitznats or something, or Navy SEALs.

00:13:53.000 I mean, she basically took on Godzilla and defeated him.

00:13:56.000 Then it turned out that, I forget his name, it was a Hispanic fellow, a bunch of the drivers cowered or got shot or ran for cover, as she did.

00:14:04.000 One One particular Hispanic gentleman did actually kill a bunch of Iraqis, and did actually fight them hand-to-hand, and did actually get killed, and shot a bunch, and stabbed at point-blank range.

00:14:15.000 So they just kind of shelved him to the side, gave her all the credit.

00:14:19.000 As usual, that's how it works.

00:14:21.000 And then suddenly, members of the group that had survived were going, no, that's not how it happened.

00:14:27.000 And then members of the rescue team started saying that's not how it happened in the raid.

00:14:31.000 And was it four or five of them?

00:14:34.000 One was in Arizona in a middle-class neighborhood with a security fence around the house cooking a welcome back deal in a barbecue and somebody in a black uniform popped over the fence with a black mask on and double tapped, fired twice and hit twice in the head.

00:14:50.000 I mean even if you're a good shot actually going over a fence line and killing somebody takes nerve and putting two shots at I think it was only 15 yards, but still, that's a good shot. 0.73

00:14:59.000 Two shots, double tap to the head, splatter his brains everywhere. 0.95

00:15:03.000 Then others would get pulled over.

00:15:04.000 It looked like by police, you know, the person had been pulled over, no evidence of a wreck.

00:15:08.000 They'd be ground in two inches of water in a puddle.

00:15:11.000 Other people would jump off bridges to their deaths, their heads knocked in.

00:15:17.000 And so, I mean, they definitely, the government definitely killed people to try to keep that myth going and to keep that propaganda bonanza working.

00:15:27.000 So we should kind of rehash that and bring that into the Pat Tillman thing.

00:15:30.000 And then I even forget, it was in several mainstream blogs last week, going, hey, was he killed?

00:15:37.000 The family thinks they're more.

00:15:38.000 He'd been criticizing the war.

00:15:40.000 He told the family.

00:15:41.000 Now that's come out mainstream news.

00:15:45.000 But now others are questioning, and we like to do that.

00:15:47.000 I mean, we generally know exactly what's going on from the pieces of the puzzle we've gotten from past MO of the New World Order's actions, because the way they behave is habitual.

00:15:58.000 They just do it by rote, kind of obsessive compulsively over and over again, just with different dressing, basically, different frosting on it.

00:16:06.000 It's the same cake, the same innards.

00:16:10.000 And so now others have written it, Paul, so we can go and, oh, we mentioned on air, I mean, I mentioned on air six months ago that there could be foul play.

00:16:19.000 Well, hell, the Army colonel that did the first review that didn't do a whitewash said that it was more than negligence and I think the word was a murder, homicide.

00:16:34.000 Now, were guys jealous of him?

00:16:36.000 All the gang member types that were in the Rangers nowadays?

00:16:39.000 I mean, have you seen our military lately, folks?

00:16:41.000 There's still some good people in there, but a lot of them, I mean, it's scary.

00:16:46.000 I doubt it was probably some, you know, jealous gangbanger, because still, the esprit de corps of that, they tend to reform themselves, unless they're on base doing a, you know, hit for their commander, who may be lower in rank than them, but was a commander in the gang they're a member of.

00:17:00.000 That takes precedence over the racial gangs.

00:17:04.000 No, that is a slight chance.

00:17:06.000 I don't know, 10-15% chance that if it's foul play, that was what it was.

00:17:12.000 But no, it's about an 85% chance that if it's foul play, which the evidence pretty much shows it is, that it is government-op.

00:17:21.000 He got multiple taps, and boy, Pat did really learn who he was working for, didn't he?

00:17:28.000 You bet!

00:17:30.000 You think you're going to go back and badmouth our war boy?

00:17:36.000 And I've seen mainstream editorials where they have come out and said, well, yeah, the government lied about how he really died, but it was friendly fire.

00:17:45.000 Look, we just made him a hero.

00:17:47.000 We need this myth, this comfortable myth.

00:17:53.000 So what?

00:17:53.000 The government needs to lie it's a war.

00:17:56.000 Well, the extension is just one more step to, well, the boy just doesn't know and doesn't see the bigger picture.

00:18:02.000 We can't let this get out.

00:18:05.000 Send in black ops. 0.93

00:18:06.000 Take out Pat Tillman.

00:18:09.000 So we've alluded to it quite a bit, but now others are saying it.

00:18:12.000 And the family has come out, even with the official report now saying that it was friendly fire, they're saying that's a lie.

00:18:18.000 Well, what are they saying there?

00:18:20.000 The family needs to stop waiting around.

00:18:22.000 You know, I got on there, and I doubt she heard about it through the show, but we do have a lot of listeners.

00:18:27.000 She might have. 0.60

00:18:29.000 15, 20% chance.

00:18:29.000 Who knows?

00:18:30.000 But I got on there the week before Private Lynch, Jessica Lynch, did go public.

00:18:35.000 And I said, if you don't go public now, because all these members of your team and the people that went to rescue you were getting killed.

00:18:46.000 I mean, in a one week period, a bunch of them got killed.

00:18:50.000 I said, Lynch, if you keep playing along with this and the book deal they've got for you, like the Britain just got caught trying to do with their sailors that admittedly would stage book deals that the Ministry of Defense was using for propaganda and instant TV deals and the rest of it.

00:19:05.000 And tell them they can profit from it as a way to pay them off.

00:19:09.000 That blew up in their face.

00:19:10.000 Well, with Lynch, I mean, she had a multi-million dollar book deal, and she came out and said, it's a fraud, it's a lie, it's a fable.

00:19:18.000 And that saves your life, little girl.

00:19:20.000 Because they would have probably let the book start coming out, and then you were going to die in a car wreck or something.

00:19:24.000 And oh, look, the hero died in a car wreck, or the hero died of food poisoning.

00:19:30.000 Oh man, let's just even sell more of the books.

00:19:33.000 And remember our hero, our new blonde haired girl.

00:19:38.000 Alright, we got that.

00:19:39.000 And big news on 9-11.

00:19:42.000 We'll cover when we get back.

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00:23:55.000 Was Kurt Vonnegut the 9-11 truther?

00:24:15.000 Ha ha ha ha ha.

00:24:18.000 I'll tell you the next hour.

00:24:23.000 Yeah, he died yesterday.

00:24:26.000 He went on over the mountain.

00:24:31.000 Into the wild blue yonder.

00:24:34.000 Over the rainbow, as they say.

00:24:36.000 Shuttle on.

00:24:38.000 Have a good trip.

00:24:40.000 Let's play a little bit of this song for Kurt.

00:24:43.000 And then the man steps right up to the microphone.

00:24:47.000 And says at last, just as the time bell rings.

00:24:56.000 Good night.

00:24:57.000 Now it's time to go home.

00:25:00.000 Then he makes it fast with one more thing.

00:25:09.000 We are the south ends.

00:25:12.000 We are the Tartans of Swing.

00:25:15.000 We are the Tartans of Swing.

00:25:45.000 We are the Tartans of Swing.

00:26:10.000 Alright, I will comment on Kurt coming up later, but this is out of George Washington blog.

00:26:16.000 We've got it up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com right now.

00:26:22.000 911 family members filed petition with NIST.

00:26:26.000 Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaney today filed a petition with the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, Seeking correction of inaccurate factual statements and analysis in this report on the destruction of the Twin Towers.

00:26:45.000 You see, you're going to have to answer for your scientific lies.

00:26:48.000 Of course, they won't even say what made them fall now.

00:26:50.000 They've been made to back off five times.

00:26:52.000 Mr. Doyle is a representative of the largest group of 9-11 families, the Coalition of 9-11 Families, and lost his own son, Joey, in the collapse of the Twin Towers.

00:27:02.000 Mr. McIlwain An outspoken 9-11 truth activist lost his son Bobby when the World Trade Centers were destroyed.

00:27:11.000 Another prominent 9-11 family member supports the petition, but declined for personal reasons to sign it.

00:27:18.000 Fear.

00:27:19.000 Also signing the petition are physicist Dr. Stephen Jones, scientist and former site manager, Environmental Health Laboratories and Division of Underwriting Laboratories Kevin Ryan,

00:27:30.000 Architect Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects, who has been a practicing architect for 20 years, has been responsible for the production and construction of documents from numerous steel-framed and fire-protected buildings for use in many different areas, including education, civic, rapid transit, and industrial use, and the group Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice.

00:27:50.000 The petition can be read here.

00:27:52.000 It is also very strong and solid and very well It should be noted that this work on the petition commenced many months before NIST petitions prepared by others were put together.

00:28:05.000 And it goes on here.

00:28:09.000 The important point is that we last, what was it, Friday we had Steven Jones, Professor Jones, who's going to be here speaking Saturday night at the University of Texas, I think at like seven o'clock at night, right after I speak.

00:28:23.000 And it's always great to see him and his really wonderful wife.

00:28:28.000 But Professor Jones has now gotten samples from the World Trade Center Complex that have the aerosolized, congealed, alloy, perfectly spherical or close to perfectly spherical globulins.

00:28:48.000 And then he was able to do the different microprobe and analysis of the electron microscopes of that.

00:28:53.000 And again, just more confirmation of the explosive residue captured in that metal.

00:29:01.000 We are going to get a report out in the next few days on that.

00:29:06.000 So we have this report here.

00:29:08.000 The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231. 180 The U.N.

00:29:18.000 wants New York City cops to work for the United Nations.

00:29:26.000 I'm not tending.

00:29:26.000 It's the Associated Press.

00:29:28.000 We'll tell you what's really behind all this when we get back.

00:29:31.000 And then we'll get into the Texas Legislature takes on NAFTA and the North American Union Superhighways.

00:29:37.000 Good news on that front.

00:29:39.000 And your calls coming up throughout the broadcast today.

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00:40:12.000 Okay, let me cover this, and I'm just going to start taking calls through this hour, into the next hour, and then continue with some audio clips and other key news.

00:40:22.000 But I love the different directions you, the listeners, take us in.

00:40:24.000 You and once New York City cops for peacekeeping.

00:40:28.000 This is the Associated Press.

00:40:30.000 Now, before I read this article, well, you know what, I'll read the article and I'll go over some history.

00:40:34.000 Because the average person, this was in papers all over the country today, this is, oh, very interesting, oh, Oh, no big deal.

00:40:43.000 Oh, it's just a request.

00:40:44.000 Oh, the Mexican troops just helped with Katrina. 0.96

00:40:47.000 Oh, the Norwegian AWACS just helped on 9-11.

00:40:50.000 Oh, the German Air Force is here just helping with our airspace.

00:40:54.000 "Oh, by the way, we signed deals with the Mexican and Canadian government for them to fight terrorists on domestic U.S. soil, Army Times, NorthCom.

00:41:02.000 Oh, Austin, you're watching News 8.

00:41:06.000 See, I said I'd get to this later, but oh, you're watching News 8.

00:41:09.000 And oh, there's two dozen Austin cops in a special program are being internationally deputized by the UN and their counterpart, 24 cops from Tokyo, are coming here and it's all part of an international program where they can go arrest people in Japan and they can come here and arrest people in the U.S.

00:41:27.000 You know, I'm just watching, didn't tape it.

00:41:30.000 I literally rarely watch TV.

00:41:32.000 Imagine what I'm missing.

00:41:33.000 I turn on News 8, local, they only have like five of them in the country, it's CNN local.

00:41:40.000 And I turn on News 8, and there's a five-minute report about how great it is.

00:41:45.000 And I'm scrambling to tape it, and by then it's over.

00:41:49.000 That was like five years ago.

00:41:50.000 That was back in the day before I even had a DVR on my TV in my house.

00:41:53.000 But then I watch a little TV.

00:41:54.000 I don't have trouble getting recorded.

00:41:57.000 Then I'm too busy to haul the DVR down to the office and get the stuff I do record.

00:42:04.000 Again, we're being hit by a thousand punches.

00:42:06.000 I don't even know how to cover this.

00:42:07.000 But let me get to the article.

00:42:11.000 wants New York City cops for peacekeeping.

00:42:11.000 U.N.

00:42:15.000 Associated Press, April 12th.

00:42:18.000 I was about to say yesterday because I read this last night, but I guess it was like 1.30 at my house.

00:42:23.000 So yeah, this is today.

00:42:27.000 U.N.

00:42:27.000 wants New York City cops for peacekeeping.

00:42:31.000 Secretary General Ban Ki-moon Asked New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Wednesday whether some of the city's police officers could be deployed with UN peacekeeping missions.

00:42:43.000 Recruiting police for the UN's 16 peacekeeping missions around the globe has been historically challenging.

00:42:49.000 Oh, see, they've got a challenge and they need help.

00:42:52.000 That's all it is.

00:42:53.000 They just need some help.

00:42:55.000 We need some help.

00:42:56.000 The Germans and Mexicans are here.

00:42:57.000 There are other troops.

00:43:02.000 New York City has one of the most diversified police forces around and I think the Secretary General would like to explore possibilities.

00:43:10.000 Deputy Spokesman Marie Okabe said before the meeting, getting police to join peacekeeping operations is one of the high priorities for the U.N.

00:43:10.000 U.N.

00:43:20.000 It goes on, Bloomberg left the meeting without speaking to reporters It says Stu Loeser, the mayor's spokesman, said that his office had no comment.

00:43:32.000 New York City has recently fallen short on its police recruiting goals, so it's unclear if it would have any officers to spare for international peacekeeping.

00:43:40.000 The UN Peacekeeping Department said 321 American police officers are currently involved in missions abroad.

00:43:46.000 That's a lot more than that.

00:43:48.000 I guess that means they stay in the force somehow.

00:43:52.000 Thousands of cops go and become mercs for him.

00:43:55.000 I've been in the YMCA, coming out of the showers and seeing the bulletin board with ads for cops for the UN and cops standing around looking at it, going, I'm going to join!

00:44:08.000 The UN Peacekeeping Department said 321 American police officers are currently involved in the mission abroad, primarily training local police.

00:44:14.000 Of those, 225 are in the Kosovo region of Yugoslavia, and others are in Haiti, Liberia, and Sudan.

00:44:24.000 Now, this is all part of the slow process of marinating us in this.

00:44:34.000 Every major city in the U.S.

00:44:35.000 has sister cities.

00:44:36.000 It's called U.N.

00:44:37.000 munialization, where the cities sign agreements and treaties and contracts with foreign cities.

00:44:44.000 It's all U.N. 0.90

00:44:45.000 UNESCO, that Bush had his wife signed back onto three years ago, and a treaty signing in Paris, in Paris, with Jacques Chirac.

00:44:45.000 controlled.

00:44:54.000 They came right out and that puts our universities, our public lands, the regulations under treaty agreement so that federal agencies have to adopt via treaty the guidelines of the UN just like the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank, the EXIM.

00:45:10.000 The World Health Organization, they all set the standards and I got a call yesterday and I did Google and I did confirm.

00:45:15.000 Chertoff just gave a speech two weeks ago, he's been giving several, saying we're soon going to be under total international law and that's what we follow.

00:45:22.000 Member of the Supreme Court Justices, in fact I wrote notes on this, I've got to put that in the film.

00:45:27.000 Supreme Court Justices.

00:45:30.000 I'm making a film right now about all this.

00:45:32.000 There's so much evidence I can't like grasp it all in my head.

00:45:36.000 Supreme Court Justices say we are Under international law, and I remember to put that in the pile, I forgot to put that in the big folder, except for putting it in the film.

00:45:48.000 Remember all those announcements a few years ago, and continually, oh yeah, well the Supreme Court then has the World Court above it, and other international agreements.

00:45:56.000 See, oh, and they're now bringing it into court cases as precedent!

00:46:00.000 Other people's laws! 0.90

00:46:02.000 Places that don't have due process, or innocent until proven guilty.

00:46:09.000 And sure enough, I got articles today where... Oh, by the way!

00:46:14.000 You know what?

00:46:15.000 I'll cover it later, but remind me if I don't get into it.

00:46:18.000 The New York Times is reporting... the Justice Department report says, don't worry, there's really no election fraud.

00:46:26.000 I mean, what a joke, folks!

00:46:30.000 And then they put a spin on it, like, well, the Justice Department didn't want to release it, but it leaked.

00:46:35.000 To add to it, like that adds, I mean, all these tricks they play.

00:46:38.000 Oh, it's leaked!

00:46:40.000 Oh, that, that really adds credibility that this wasn't for us to see, but it's in the New York Times.

00:46:47.000 If you believe it, I got some, you know, Florida swampland I'm ready to sell you, ladies and gentlemen.

00:46:54.000 I got a bridge I'm ready to sell you on the surface of the moon.

00:46:59.000 I mean, it's just, when does it end?

00:47:02.000 The tricks they play and the stuff they do.

00:47:05.000 Oh, the Justice Department, complete criminals, butchering the entire Bill of Rights, lying to everyone, writing up memos saying they can torture children with pliers. 0.85

00:47:16.000 I'm sorry, with vice grips. 0.90

00:47:21.000 They say, the President's Enron lawyer, Alberto Gonzalez, and John Yoo and the rest of this gaggle of crooks, they say That'd be like if you had Al Capone up on the stand and, oh, Al Capone says he's not a gangster. 0.79

00:47:37.000 Al Capone says he doesn't own any whore houses or gambling houses or liquor houses. 0.77

00:47:44.000 Al Capone says he doesn't own a Tommy Gun.

00:47:47.000 Al Capone says he doesn't wear trench coats.

00:47:50.000 Al Capone says.

00:47:51.000 Oh, look, everybody.

00:47:58.000 There's no problem now with the voting.

00:48:02.000 The Justice Department says so.

00:48:04.000 Alright, I said remind me later.

00:48:07.000 I want to go over the article.

00:48:10.000 Let's go ahead and go to Melissa in Florida.

00:48:13.000 Thanks for holding, Melissa.

00:48:16.000 Yes, I don't know if you remember after 9-11, the FBI gets on the television and wants information.

00:48:23.000 That'll help them.

00:48:25.000 But I found a website.

00:48:26.000 I believe it was binladen.com.

00:48:29.000 I believe the organization was the Bin Laden Group.

00:48:32.000 And I looked on their contact list and there was a lot of American citizens that worked for them.

00:48:39.000 So being naive, I sent that in to the FBI.

00:48:43.000 For the past five years, our surveillance has been harassed.

00:48:52.000 What else is going on?

00:48:52.000 Anything else?

00:48:53.000 That's it.

00:48:54.000 Well, there's a lot more going on, but I'm not going to get into it today.

00:48:58.000 Well, you know, that's really important, the point you raise, and I appreciate your call, Melissa, and I'm sorry that's happening to you, but, you know, we can't give in to fear.

00:49:07.000 The truth is, is that there's surveillance going on all the time, and it's a panoptagon psychological tactic to then surveil a few times, and you think you're constantly being surveilled.

00:49:18.000 They don't have the forces to do it.

00:49:20.000 All they can do is try to encourage massive spying, massive tattletaling by the society.

00:49:26.000 That's why you see constant national ad council, you know, radio, TV, print ads about spying on your neighbor.

00:49:33.000 First it's look for terrorists, and a year later, oh, and pot smokers.

00:49:37.000 Because there's no real terrorists, but then they make pot smoking terrorism, which they actually have. 0.88

00:49:42.000 Or a fist fight at a school, something most of us did.

00:49:45.000 I've got articles where they charge them as terrorists.

00:49:47.000 Now they say, well, hitting somebody was terrorism.

00:49:51.000 I mean, they're not playing games.

00:49:52.000 They're arresting five-year-olds, six-year-olds, they're arresting people for no reason.

00:49:55.000 It's about getting you into the system.

00:49:59.000 But yeah, Saddam had no connections to Al-Qaeda, but the government said he did, and said he was behind the attacks.

00:50:05.000 Now they've admitted he wasn't.

00:50:08.000 But the Carlisle group, the Bushes, have just more connections than anybody else.

00:50:13.000 The Wall Street Journal wrote about it two months before 9-11.

00:50:18.000 And then they try to spin and say, it's not really true, we didn't fly the Bin Laden's out.

00:50:23.000 Miami Herald Associated Press, in the two and three days after, they flew out 160 plus.

00:50:30.000 There were at least five flights.

00:50:33.000 Now, the media did spin though, and talked about people that flew out two weeks later, when the airband was lifted, there were more waves.

00:50:39.000 So they all play dog and pony shows, but those tricks work on most people.

00:50:43.000 We'll be right back.

00:50:45.000 We'll be right back.

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00:54:09.000 Let's go ahead and keep going to your calls here.

00:54:13.000 Habib in New York, then Chris Richard, B.W., Michael and others.

00:54:19.000 All right, final segment of this hour.

00:54:25.000 Let's go ahead and keep going to your calls here.

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00:54:31.000 Go ahead, Habib.

00:54:32.000 You're on the air.

00:54:32.000 Hi, Alex.

00:54:34.000 Been a long listener for almost a year now.

00:54:37.000 Well, thanks for tuning in.

00:54:38.000 What's on your mind today?

00:54:39.000 Yes, I had two questions.

00:54:41.000 One about, both of them related to 9-11.

00:54:44.000 My first question was, how do you respond to those who say that even though fire didn't melt the steel in the building, it weakened it, so it crushed on itself?

00:54:54.000 Well, that had never happened before.

00:54:56.000 Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane.

00:54:58.000 NIST now says they don't know why 7 fell, but the debunkers still keep using their disproven reasons.

00:55:05.000 Also, you have a woman standing in the hole, and other people.

00:55:09.000 You have black smoke, meaning it was 400 to 550 degrees maximum.

00:55:13.000 You have giant steel columns, four foot around.

00:55:16.000 You have NIST and FEMA saying there were no central columns in the building when there were 47 four foot around ones with fireproofing all around it.

00:55:24.000 I mean, your iron stove, your steel stove, even your aluminum stove doesn't melt when you're cooking something at 550 degrees for a hundred years.

00:55:33.000 And it doesn't weaken to any great degree.

00:55:36.000 And stuff would have sloughed off if something did weaken.

00:55:40.000 We've seen buildings burn for days with white hot flames and then small supports will kind of melt and bend down and hang, but none of the big ones even move.

00:55:48.000 And so it's a total and complete fraud and the blueprints are now public.

00:55:52.000 They even tried to lie about the blueprints, but the blueprints are now public for the towers.

00:55:56.000 And it's just absolutely amazing the type of spin we're seeing.

00:55:59.000 Yeah, so I guess Building 7 is sort of a big key over here.

00:56:04.000 My second question was, what is your personal opinion on Osama Bin Laden?

00:56:09.000 Obviously he has his own agenda, whether or not he's related to the U.S., but...

00:56:14.000 As of your best knowledge, do you think he's in bed with the U.S.

00:56:17.000 or what's up with him?

00:56:18.000 Do you think?

00:56:19.000 Absolutely in bed.

00:56:21.000 The elite Saudis are in bed with the New World Order. 1.00

00:56:24.000 I wouldn't even say the U.S.

00:56:26.000 I wouldn't call it the Iraqis. 0.73

00:56:28.000 I wouldn't call it the Jews.

00:56:29.000 I wouldn't call it the U.S.

00:56:30.000 I wouldn't call it any group.

00:56:32.000 You know, evil people that are in control who combine forces together and invest together.

00:56:37.000 I mean, look at who owns Carlisle.

00:56:39.000 The Bin Ladens, the Queen of England, the Bushes, James Baker, George Shultz.

00:56:43.000 I mean, a handful of people.

00:56:44.000 And they literally vacation together.

00:56:46.000 They hang out together.

00:56:47.000 Bin Laden was trained in the U.S.

00:56:48.000 Osama Bin Laden was known to be the main conduit commander for the CIA in the Mujahideen in the war from 1979 until what?

00:56:57.000 Until 87, 88.

00:57:02.000 Yeah, yeah, around 89, but... Yeah, but I mean, let me just go back here, though.

00:57:06.000 So, you know, again, people can't have their cake and eat it, too, you know, because some Arabs are like, no, no, the U.S. 0.99

00:57:12.000 didn't do it, or Israel didn't do it, our beloved, look how tough us, you know, Muslims are, you know, you don't think we're swearing up to do this?

00:57:18.000 You know, bin Laden couldn't make NORAD stand down.

00:57:21.000 Bin Laden couldn't do all these things.

00:57:24.000 Now, I know in one statement, bin Laden said,

00:57:26.000 That he didn't do it, and then another, he supposedly said he did, and then Bandar Bush, you know, Sheikh Bandar, the Prince Bandar, who was on Larry King a few years ago said, oh, he was on, I'm going to let you talk a minute, I'm trying to answer your question properly, he was on Larry King Live, and Larry King Live was calling Bin Laden names, I've got to get a tape of this, the kind of things I see, this is just what I caught, folks, this is what I catch, I'm sure you saw it, he was calling Bin Laden bad names, and Bandar Bush said,

00:57:57.000 Don't talk bad about me, Juan!

00:57:59.000 I mean, that's how sick this is.

00:58:01.000 At those higher levels, I guarantee you they sit around and Bush talks about how great a job he did.

00:58:06.000 The info we have is that Bin Laden died in and around 9-11, or shortly after, of kidney failure.

00:58:13.000 That was one reason.

00:58:14.000 And then he becomes a hero in the Middle East.

00:58:17.000 His family makes an additional $3 billion that year alone on Karloff Group stock increases.

00:58:22.000 Stay there, Habib. 1.00

00:58:23.000 We'll come back and we'll get your take on it.

00:58:25.000 If you disagree, that's fine.

00:58:26.000 I'm just giving you the facts here.

00:58:28.000 Okay?

00:58:29.000 I mean, their families have been working for British Intel since 1918.

00:58:33.000 They are the British arm in Saudi Arabia.

00:58:37.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.

00:58:42.000 877-300-7645 Big Brother mainstream media government cover-ups You want answers?

00:58:42.000 Big Brother.

00:59:00.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:02.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:06.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:10.000 All right, we're back, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, into the second hour of the show.

00:59:32.000 I'm going to get more into New York police having meetings, the mayor, Bloomberg, having meetings with the UN about supplying the UN with its peacekeeping enforcers, its world government keeping enforcers, as the merger of our police and the UN intensifies.

00:59:48.000 Also more on, was Pat Tillman killed?

00:59:51.000 Kurt Vonnegut did die at 84 yesterday.

00:59:54.000 I've got some comments about My interesting interactions through, well we'll just talk about Kurt Vonnegut and was he a 9-11 truther?

01:00:04.000 And I've got a bunch of other news, some good news about North American Union in trouble right here in Texas.

01:00:09.000 Some good news there.

01:00:11.000 Right now, let's go back to Habib in New York.

01:00:12.000 We'll go to Chris, Richard, DW, Michael, and others.

01:00:15.000 Habib is saying, you know, is Bin Laden CIA, isn't he? 0.54

01:00:18.000 What's his real relationship to the New World Order, to the 9-11 attacks?

01:00:23.000 I mean, what are you getting at, or what are you asking, or what are you saying?

01:00:27.000 No, I mean, like, I totally, I mean, I don't say that I'm against you.

01:00:31.000 I'm just trying to figure out what he really is.

01:00:34.000 I mean, like, are you saying that he's sort of like Saddam, you know, that they used him and then they betrayed him?

01:00:39.000 Because the perspective I get from many people, and I know some pretty people that are out there, they're like, you know, he's a good guy, I mean, from an extremist point of view, perhaps.

01:00:52.000 You know, he's just totally against the U.S.

01:00:54.000 But the thing is, like, when you said he supported, I mean, the U.S.

01:00:57.000 supported him during the Afghan-Soviet war, one could argue that, you know, well, You know, they were supporting him for that time because they had to fight the Soviets.

01:01:09.000 Yeah, but you're not listening to me. 0.98

01:01:10.000 See, they've had Poles in the Middle East, and half of them, and of course you can go find the Pole, it might be 35 ones and 61, but generally around half believe that the government, you know, our government carried out the attacks, that half's right, and the other half are idiots and, you know, can't get over the emotion You know, just like the average American. 0.98

01:01:31.000 And no, no, you know, we have a right to strike back after all the bombings and death and carnage and puppet dictators and torture. 0.98

01:01:41.000 No, we're striking back.

01:01:43.000 That is just not the case from the evidence.

01:01:46.000 And so, those groups out there that believe that and play along with that help the New World Order come in and blow the Middle East and Central Asia into dust. 0.80

01:01:56.000 Bin Laden, sir, again, people aren't looking at the facts.

01:02:03.000 I mean, let me go over this for you.

01:02:05.000 Osama Bin Laden, his supposed hijackers were trained at U.S.

01:02:09.000 military bases.

01:02:11.000 When they go out to an Al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia, and U.S.

01:02:15.000 embassies would block them coming back in, they would be told by the State Department they're CIA officers.

01:02:20.000 They're in anti-terror ops.

01:02:22.000 Those are cover identities.

01:02:24.000 Let them back in.

01:02:25.000 These are colonels and embassy heads.

01:02:26.000 I mean, this is on record.

01:02:28.000 This is AP, San Jose Mercury News, Newsweek, Pensacola News Journal.

01:02:36.000 I mean, this is confirmed.

01:02:38.000 And again, the New World Order gives you propaganda.

01:02:38.000 Okay?

01:02:42.000 I mean, they have these fake bin Laden statements that come out.

01:02:46.000 They have him say stuff that makes sense.

01:02:48.000 They have him put out propaganda that actually has real grievances and a lot of it makes sense.

01:02:55.000 Because you wouldn't take the bait if it didn't make sense.

01:02:58.000 It's meant to get you all hyped up as a Muslim at the same time. 0.76

01:03:02.000 And then it's meant to get Christians all hyped up. 0.86

01:03:05.000 I agree with you completely.

01:03:07.000 Thank you for listening to my call and I just want to share a funny story with you about how I discovered your show and you.

01:03:15.000 It was a few years back, I was trying to download Fahrenheit 9-11, then all of a sudden somebody put that under the search engine, but it was actually your movie, and I was like, huh?

01:03:25.000 Well, that's how a lot of people found us, is people listed Fahrenheit 9-11 online as Road to Tyranny, correct?

01:03:31.000 That was exactly it.

01:03:33.000 Absolutely, yeah, Road to Tyranny caused a chain reaction.

01:03:36.000 The first 9-11 film.

01:03:38.000 And it led to much of what you see today.

01:03:40.000 We'll be right back.

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01:07:17.000 American fighter planes came in under the smoke to see if anything was moving.

01:07:23.000 They saw Billy and the rest moving down there.

01:07:25.000 The planes sprayed them with machine gun fire, but the bullets missed.

01:07:31.000 Then they saw some of the other people moving down by the riverside, and they shot at them.

01:07:37.000 They hit some of them.

01:07:38.000 So it goes.

01:07:40.000 The idea was to hasten the end of the war.

01:07:43.000 That's from Slaughterhouse Five, which Uh, is his actual account of being a prisoner of war, being shot at and bombed in Dresden by his, day and night, by his own country, which he never blamed the nation for doing.

01:07:59.000 It's just an interesting story.

01:08:00.000 He got captured during the frozen Battle of the Bulge while the drunken Zeb Dietrich commanded the German forces.

01:08:11.000 But, uh, at the bottom of the hour I'm going to talk about, uh, Kurt Vonnegut.

01:08:17.000 Dead at 84.

01:08:18.000 Right now, let's keep going to your calls.

01:08:20.000 Chris, in Michigan.

01:08:22.000 You're on the air.

01:08:23.000 Welcome.

01:08:24.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:08:25.000 Good.

01:08:26.000 I've been listening to you.

01:08:28.000 I really woke up in around 2005 when I saw the Road to Tyranny.

01:08:33.000 I had read Tex Marr's book about six years before that, about the Illuminati.

01:08:40.000 And I've just been I'm right now kind of bummed out because my computer's down and I don't have a DVD burner to burn any CDs, but I'm trying to get that fixed right now.

01:08:56.000 What's on your mind?

01:08:59.000 No, I just wanted to call in and I guess I just should warn all the listeners not to get that microchip, you know, because that's something that just probably won't be forgiven, you know?

01:09:14.000 Are you kidding?

01:09:15.000 When it gets to that, most of the churches will say it's the mark of the Lord.

01:09:19.000 You watch.

01:09:20.000 I mean, that's how devilish these churches already are right now.

01:09:23.000 Yeah.

01:09:25.000 Well, they're mostly controlled by beast prophets now anyway, so... I know.

01:09:30.000 I mean, sometimes I watch TV preachers and I can't believe the stuff coming out of their mouths.

01:09:35.000 And they just look like demons. 0.95

01:09:37.000 I mean, just the way they act is like a bunch of freaks.

01:09:41.000 Yeah, I sent him $7.95 for a prayer rag.

01:09:46.000 It's pretty amazing.

01:09:48.000 See that one?

01:09:49.000 I'm familiar with that type of stuff.

01:09:51.000 Was there anything else you wanted to talk about?

01:09:53.000 No, I just wanted to say keep up the good work and hopefully I'll be able to get these DVDs out soon.

01:10:00.000 Good job my friend.

01:10:01.000 You keep it up and get that computer back up and going.

01:10:04.000 Yeah, I mean, you the listeners out there making copies of the films, it just keeps having a huge effect.

01:10:09.000 Do not stop.

01:10:11.000 Intensify.

01:10:11.000 That's two callers in a row that were woken up by 9-11, the road to tyranny.

01:10:18.000 Two weeks after 9-11, I went in to the studio and I shot a two-hour discussion that I called 9-11, the road to tyranny.

01:10:35.000 And then for about three months, I sold that.

01:10:39.000 By the way, you can see it on PrisonPlanet.tv, that original Road to Tyranny, and we called it the Emergency Release.

01:10:46.000 And then I worked my hind end off, and in February, released 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, which is basically what you see today.

01:10:59.000 And that film was one of the first, if not the first, well, I know 9-11 film to come out, but also the first to really go big on the internet, on the file-sharing networks, and on some of the sites that offered it.

01:11:11.000 We have no way of gauging how many saw it.

01:11:14.000 But I know that Road to Tyranny was one of the things that woke up Jason Bermas.

01:11:19.000 And again, that is just so exciting to know that the work I've done, and that you did by getting the word out on the film, you're just as much, you know, Here to get the credit.

01:11:31.000 It's just all of us together having a huge effect.

01:11:35.000 Now you may see the DVD of Red Journey today and go, what do you mean?

01:11:38.000 I see articles in there from mid-2002.

01:11:41.000 You say this came out in February.

01:11:45.000 Well it did on VHS.

01:11:46.000 Back then I just put stuff out on VHS still and then I did an updated version, did an extra You know, 30 minutes of extras, and put that on the DVD, which is over three hours long, of 9-11 and the Road to Tyranny.

01:12:01.000 So the DVD came out in, I think, late 2002, and we do a whole thing on what was going to happen in Iraq, and how they'd break it into three parts, and how they didn't want to go into Iran.

01:12:11.000 Yeah, you can go see the film, 2002.

01:12:12.000 So the edition you get today, frankly on VHS I put out three editions, but never told anybody.

01:12:23.000 Add a little more, add a little more, and then keep duplicating them and putting them out.

01:12:28.000 But, yeah, there's three additions.

01:12:30.000 No, four additions.

01:12:31.000 There's the emergency release, and then there's three additions of the road to tyranny.

01:12:40.000 Three additions of that, of, you know, the official one.

01:12:43.000 And it hasn't been changed, though, since late 2002.

01:12:48.000 And that's the edition we still offer today.

01:12:50.000 Not really a plug for the film, but it is a classic.

01:12:55.000 And boy, I did it with no compression, basically with a Mr. Microphone plugged into the computer.

01:13:00.000 And just put the video and edited it together with my wife, who was my girlfriend.

01:13:05.000 We were just about to get married.

01:13:07.000 And my cousin, Buckley Hammond, who now lives in Chicago.

01:13:11.000 Never see the rascal anymore.

01:13:13.000 And I say rascal affectionately.

01:13:17.000 I liked it back when most of the family lived in Austin.

01:13:19.000 A lot of them have moved off and stuff.

01:13:20.000 But hey, c'est la vie.

01:13:21.000 That's what happens.

01:13:23.000 I am digressing.

01:13:26.000 Let's go ahead here and go back to the calls.

01:13:29.000 Richard, where are you calling us from today?

01:13:32.000 Meridian, Mississippi.

01:13:33.000 Welcome.

01:13:35.000 Well, it's great to talk to you again, Alex.

01:13:38.000 It's good to talk to you.

01:13:39.000 What's on your mind?

01:13:40.000 Well, about our beef dying.

01:13:43.000 Yes.

01:13:44.000 I kind of find it very alarming.

01:13:47.000 Well, I do too, but instead we've got to talk about Don Imus.

01:13:51.000 We can't talk about, you know, how they're running U.N.

01:13:54.000 extermination operations against blacks in Africa, or how they're giving him deadly inoculations.

01:13:59.000 We've got to talk about Don Imus and all feel real good, and then set the precedent for massive censorship.

01:14:04.000 Well, I'm going to plan to do something in his legacy by distributing posters I have made myself that says 9-11 inside that has on the top it says 9-11.

01:14:16.000 Troop.org, and on the bottom says Infowars.com.

01:14:19.000 Sure.

01:14:25.000 Thank you.

01:14:26.000 Well, I mean, listen, I'm trying to let the caller talk, so go ahead, sir.

01:14:29.000 Enough.

01:14:30.000 So, Alex, I have made several DVDs of your film I downloaded from the Internet.

01:14:41.000 Good.

01:14:42.000 Including Terror Storm, I'm able to download 4 DVDs with torrents.

01:14:49.000 You should try those sometime, Alex.

01:14:52.000 We promote them.

01:14:54.000 That's how a lot of people got Road to Tyranny 5 years ago, was off of file sharing.

01:15:00.000 Yeah.

01:15:02.000 And just think, when my city, everyone in my city wakes up, they're going to say the whole He said he was saying 9-11 is an inside job!

01:15:17.000 Alright!

01:15:17.000 Yes sir!

01:15:18.000 Thanks for the call my friend.

01:15:21.000 Let's go ahead now and talk to D.W.

01:15:23.000 in Texas.

01:15:25.000 D.W., go ahead.

01:15:27.000 Greetings, Alex.

01:15:28.000 Hi.

01:15:29.000 Listen, I'd like to make a forecast of what I think is going to happen.

01:15:32.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:15:32.000 I've been listening to you, and I've been listening to some other talk show hosts, and I've just put the pieces together.

01:15:37.000 I think, now this is my personal opinion, I think we're going to see a terrorist event, most likely in this country, within a year and a half.

01:15:44.000 I think it's going to be a whole lot sooner that's going to dwarf 9-11.

01:15:47.000 They're going to have to.

01:15:48.000 The New World Order has to pull a rabbit out of their hat, don't you think, in order to keep up the facade since the movement towards disclosure and exposing them is increasing exponentially.

01:15:59.000 And don't you think they're going to have to do something soon in order to keep control of the masses?

01:16:03.000 I mean, with this North American Union, per se, with it being, you know, I heard about it failing miserably here in Texas.

01:16:12.000 And, you know, I think that they're going to have to do something pretty soon or they're going to completely lose their grip, don't you think?

01:16:19.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:16:20.000 And I think that what you said is really astute because if you notice, they give themselves away.

01:16:27.000 If you watch Robert Pasture and others on Lou Dobbs defending the North American Union, or you read their CFR recommendations and what the government is saying, they're now saying the SPP and the NAU is about keeping us safe from terrorists.

01:16:41.000 We have to get rid of the borders and have a continental security zone.

01:16:45.000 And again, the former head of UN Peacekeeping, one week after 9-11, it was actually eight days after, On Nightline, I saw him say, we're going to have a continental security perimeter, there'll be UN troops in America to keep you safe, and they call for getting rid of Posse Comitatus, so yes.

01:17:01.000 Yes, that is their plan, to carry out another attack, and then claim that North American Union is the solution for our safety, and then rush it through, and I've always said it's a catch-22.

01:17:13.000 Either we lay down, and they carry out terror sooner, and they win for sure.

01:17:18.000 Or, We expose 9-11 as an inside job, we really discredit the New World Order, we take the power of government-sponsored terror away from them, and then they will still do it out of desperation, probably, unless cooler heads prevail.

01:17:34.000 So which path is better?

01:17:36.000 Is it better to have it on our ground, on the high ground, or is it better to just let them have their way with us?

01:17:42.000 Oh no, I agree.

01:17:42.000 We need to expose them and confront them on all points as often as possible, even at the local level.

01:17:48.000 Well, that's right.

01:17:49.000 things like eminent domain beginning to take place, government and corporation encroachment on properties, and such, you know, those things at the local level.

01:17:57.000 I don't know that much about the political intrigue involving the toll road system.

01:18:02.000 I know I oppose it, but I think that victory we had in Texas was with the House.

01:18:07.000 Well, that's right.

01:18:09.000 Why don't you fill folks in on that?

01:18:11.000 Okay.

01:18:12.000 The House voted it down, I think, just by a huge margin, voted this toll road system down.

01:18:19.000 Now, not only is that a smack in the face of Governor Perry, but, you know, the entire bunch behind it, I mean, I guess, probably, like you say, you can trace that all the way back to Juan Carlos, to Spain, all these huge international corporations that are behind all of this.

01:18:33.000 You know, so, they're going to have to pull a rabbit out of their head, like I said earlier, in order to keep this facade up.

01:18:40.000 And I think this is going to be the pivotal move.

01:18:43.000 No, no, no.

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01:22:49.000 the the the the the the let's continue with your phone calls

01:23:19.000 Then I'm going to gather Kurt Vonnegut's death and my tenuous contact with him and the nice gift he gave me and some comments about 9-11 Truth.

01:23:28.000 But right now, let's go back to the calls.

01:23:30.000 Let's talk to Michael in Kentucky.

01:23:31.000 Go ahead, Michael.

01:23:32.000 You're on the air.

01:23:34.000 Alex, hi.

01:23:35.000 I'm glad I finally got in touch with you.

01:23:39.000 I'm not real good at public speaking, so I ask you to bear with me.

01:23:42.000 Oh, don't be nervous.

01:23:43.000 It's just you and me talking.

01:23:43.000 Come on.

01:23:44.000 Go ahead.

01:23:45.000 Okay.

01:23:45.000 Well, sir, my name is Michael Johnson.

01:23:49.000 I'm 38 years old, and I live in Kentucky.

01:23:51.000 I was a locksmith for 20 years, and my father, who's 59 years old, or soon to be 59, is currently serving a nine-year sentence in Eastern Kentucky Correctional Center.

01:24:04.000 His number is 197158.

01:24:07.000 In West Liberty, Kentucky.

01:24:10.000 My father, for the last 15 years, I've heard some of your listeners talk about how their eyes were opened.

01:24:15.000 My father's eyes were opened about 15 years ago.

01:24:19.000 We lived in Michigan for a little while, and he did some research around the different state constitutions, and he decided to move down to Kentucky.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, bottom line, what happened to your dad?

01:24:28.000 Well, he's been a peaceful protester for the last 15 years.

01:24:34.000 He was jail-robed through the court system in a little town that he had moved to.

01:24:38.000 He has a long history, well-documented history of peaceful protests around the courthouse squares and stuff like that.

01:24:48.000 In the fall of 2005, he was carrying out a 22-day peaceful protest with 65 signs that he made up.

01:24:53.000 17 of those signs pertained about the local prosecuting attorney.

01:24:58.000 His whole protest was about local government officials or county officials who weren't I've heard from people, they've said that he was lucky he wasn't hung from the nearest tree, and it's a real small town.

01:25:15.000 Yeah, they think it's real funny.

01:25:17.000 Did you ever hear about Kelly Rushing in Lyon County?

01:25:20.000 One of our listeners, Upstanding Family, he gave the state police a Ron Paul video, it also had Road to Tyranny on it.

01:25:26.000 And they arrested him, it was in the newspaper, and the newspaper said that the judge and the prosecutor said, these videos are illegal, they're anti-government and anti-police, and I called the judge at his house and he said, yep, he's going to be in my courtroom, and they tried to put Kelly in jail for two counts of Terroristic threats, saying the video was a threat, congressman speaking, was evil, and it was in the newspaper, the jury found him not guilty, and the harassment just intensified.

01:25:55.000 Now let me tell you something, Kentucky is bad news.

01:25:58.000 From what I know, they, I mean, it's some kind of freak show in there, with all these good people that live there, but just crooks running government, a bunch of boss hogs, and they do it, I mean, they get that, listen, a lot of times they just walk right up to your house and gun you down right there. 0.99

01:26:13.000 So, I mean, you talk about, you know, deliverance or something, this is what we're talking about.

01:26:20.000 They charged my dad with four counts of first degree stalking, and three days before trial, they eliminate 80% of his evidence.

01:26:29.000 You know what, I think it was Kentucky, or was it Virginia, two weeks ago, I'll Google it.

01:26:33.000 Remember the people that put a camera on their house to stop speeders, and they kept talking to the cop at 20 miles over, and then they indicted them for stalking?

01:26:42.000 Well, I heard something about that down in Tennessee, too, something about they were doing that to speeders and stuff on cameras and stuff like that.

01:26:48.000 Well, no, no, no.

01:26:49.000 I mean, if you tape a god from your own home, they charge you.

01:26:53.000 In fact, I see articles every week where they arrest people because people have cameras on their house and it shows the cops beating them up and then you bring that to prosecutors, they indict you for surveillance.

01:27:05.000 I mean, we're talking about criminals running the government.

01:27:05.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 Yeah, well that's what's happened.

01:27:10.000 And my dad is a good man, he's raised four good kids, and he's serving, he's 59, and he's serving eight or nine years.

01:27:15.000 What's his name?

01:27:16.000 His name is Winston Johnson.

01:27:18.000 His prison number is 197158 in West Liberty, Kentucky.

01:27:22.000 It's at EKCC, Eastern Kentucky Correctional Center.

01:27:26.000 And he's been sentenced to nine years for no possibility of parole.

01:27:30.000 Like I said, three days before trial, they completely gutted his evidence to show his intent.

01:27:33.000 Stalking is an intent crime.

01:27:35.000 My dad has a long history of peaceful protest.

01:27:38.000 While he was down there, he had two death threats.

01:27:40.000 He had one guy come up on the sidewalk, and this has all been testified to in court, but nobody did anything about it.

01:27:46.000 He had one guy come up on the sidewalk with an 87 Chevy Camaro and hit my dad while my dad was holding his sign. 0.97

01:27:50.000 Well, listen, I mean, number one, do you know how scummy, I mean, usually country folks are great, but when you got a bad town, I mean, guaranteed they were up in the courthouse, inbred, white trash, IQ's barely above retarded, we're guaranteed going, look at Billy run a car into a pool! 1.00

01:28:14.000 I love Bush, oh God, I love the war! 0.98

01:28:17.000 I mean, I guarantee you that that's what's going on.

01:28:21.000 And, uh, it's... Look, let me get... I'm gonna get... Email Aaron at Infowars.com, and I'll give the information over to my producer, uh, and, uh, we will, uh, see about getting you on, okay?

01:28:36.000 What was the email?

01:28:37.000 It's Aaron at Infowars.com.

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01:31:48.000 While the unions have big businessmen, and they're going out like dinosaurs.

01:31:58.000 While they hit the growth of food in Kansas, and they want to vote on the moon, and they're eating raw.

01:32:07.000 I can see the dead coming with even your home.

01:32:12.000 That's the sun of the millionth and all.

01:32:15.000 But if I'm down on the union, what made in the U.S.A. sure was a good idea that we got in the way.

01:32:31.000 This world is ruled by violence If you don't rule the world, you better get that in your head.

01:32:47.000 This world is ruled by violence, but I guess that's in a different way.

01:32:52.000 But I guess that's better than I say From far west and a misty way There's a lot of territory in peace And a man's gonna do what he's having to do When he's gonna do what he's having to do Thank you, Bob Dillard.

01:33:13.000 We are back live here, ladies and gentlemen.

01:33:17.000 I've been getting emails, you know, man, your voice has even gotten deeper.

01:33:20.000 I am not here trying to talk deeply.

01:33:22.000 I am not here trying to... I have oak pollen allergies.

01:33:28.000 Now, again, which don't make me feel that bad, which I don't... I love it.

01:33:31.000 It's fine.

01:33:32.000 It's great.

01:33:33.000 Cedar, they call it cedar, it's really...

01:33:38.000 Mountain something makes me feel horrible like I'm sick for a month when the stuff comes out twice a year.

01:33:44.000 Oak right now is literally green stuff covering everything so my nose is stopped up my throat's all you know coated in it so that's why you'll hear me pause and hit the cough button that's why you'll hear me talk slowly or my brain isn't working as well and Lord knows what's going on I just know nobody I ever knew really had allergies

01:34:04.000 And then everybody I know has got them, even people that have lived in Austin their whole lives, and they're getting worse, and worse, and worse, and worse, and all the major studies, in fact I have news on that today, show that it's the GMO pollen.

01:34:22.000 I mean you've got huge GMO cotton fields, canola, soybean, maize, All over these growth belts and what happens is that gets your allergies going and then it's an irritant and everything else just compiles on top of it.

01:34:41.000 And we know that's what's doing it.

01:34:43.000 So I mean I let her and Austin's really bad because there's so much growing around here.

01:34:47.000 We've got another report today about all the serious health problems.

01:34:54.000 It's in studies what GMO is doing with liver failure and all sorts of organ problems.

01:35:01.000 So I want to go over that in the third hour.

01:35:03.000 I wasn't going to have any guests on today, but I told my producer, my wife, she used to do that job, she's in today doing that, that I wanted to get Bill Doyle back on.

01:35:17.000 I just told her this morning and she'd already called all these people and couldn't get ahold of Bill Doyle, the head of the biggest victims families group on 9/11, who of course said it's an inside job on the show a few months ago.

01:35:29.000 But Bob McElveen is part of this petition to NIST about the fake evidence and the lies they've put out about the collapse.

01:35:39.000 He'll be joining us 20 for 20 minutes in the next hour.

01:35:43.000 But I am going to have open phones after that, and I will get into the GMO.

01:35:47.000 I've got to play that little six or seven minute clip, two different clips, of James Bamford talking about government-sponsored terror.

01:35:53.000 So that's...

01:36:01.000 Thank you.

01:36:02.000 That's coming up.

01:36:05.000 Let me right now talk briefly about tyranny, then I'm going to get into Kurt Vonnegut briefly and his death yesterday.

01:36:13.000 When you talk about these small towns, well you can get either big city corruption or small town corruption, and they're both bad.

01:36:23.000 And it's where, generationally generally, it can happen quicker than that, but the really bad stuff is generational.

01:36:28.000 It just gets accepted that the police are corrupt, accepted that the mayor is always a mob boss, accepted that it's all about patronage and peerage and who knows who.

01:36:40.000 That's not supposed to be the U.S.

01:36:42.000 system.

01:36:44.000 But I have experienced small towns, ladies and gentlemen, off and on, I guess if you stacked it all together, over a year I lived in the country.

01:36:54.000 You know, every time I was getting a little too rowdy or whatever was going on, they'd send me down to, in between Dallas and Houston.

01:37:03.000 I guess my family's really closer to my dad's family, closer to Buffalo there.

01:37:06.000 I always say Fairfield, but that's 10 miles north.

01:37:10.000 But the county seat, and the county over next to it is, I guess, Teague, Texas.

01:37:15.000 And I had family from there, and that was actually the school closer.

01:37:18.000 So for part of a semester, I went to school there.

01:37:20.000 It was a big, nice school.

01:37:23.000 It was like 2 or 3A, but it was a gigantic school, a nice school.

01:37:29.000 And the people point blank just said, they'd walk up and go, Are you a Yankee?

01:37:39.000 And then I went to a football bonfire and they, right in the middle of it, hauled a burning cross up in the middle of the bonfire.

01:37:53.000 And that was it.

01:37:54.000 I got in my car, and I went, and I said, I don't care, because I do what my parents told me.

01:38:00.000 I said, I am not going to school down here, because I just turned 16 when I was down there.

01:38:05.000 I said, and I am not going to live down here, and I am coming back. 0.98

01:38:08.000 And because I was sitting there at the high school pep rally, oh, what's the stupid, the main game they play, homecoming. 0.99

01:38:23.000 And so I'm there. 0.99

01:38:26.000 You know, I'm there looking for girlfriends, dates, stuff like that.

01:38:31.000 And, you know, I've had black kids I've talked to in class.

01:38:36.000 And so I'm kind of hanging around with them and they're like, I'm getting out of here.

01:38:38.000 See, they're doing it.

01:38:38.000 That's it.

01:38:39.000 I can't believe this. 1.00

01:38:40.000 And the blacks all suddenly leave. 1.00

01:38:43.000 There wasn't that many in the school, but, you know, and it was all done in plain view, but hidden. 0.86

01:38:50.000 You see, oh, it was a group of students.

01:38:54.000 That we're going to do it.

01:38:58.000 And I didn't even know what it was, you know, because there's like white kids there and there's black kids there, and I'm sitting there, and truckloads of stuff are coming in for the bonfire, and, you know, I'd been there the day before with some other kids throwing stuff on the bonfire, and then they put this cross laying down up at the top, and black kids are going, I don't like this because I guess they've lived around there, and I don't know what they're talking about. 0.92

01:39:17.000 I didn't figure it out until they hauled it up with a rope when the thing was already burning, and there's this burning cross up on top, and the The principal of school walks out and gets this crazy look on his eye with it burning.

01:39:32.000 I mean, that's how secret societies work, folks.

01:39:35.000 They're everywhere.

01:39:36.000 And when I came home, my dad goes, yeah, I didn't think it'd be like that anymore.

01:39:36.000 They're all around.

01:39:40.000 He said in the summer when my mother was teaching summer school, you know, she was a teacher and she taught for both school districts, both Teague and Fairfield.

01:39:50.000 She was an English teacher.

01:39:53.000 He would go while she was there for half a day and he'd go to the pool, you know, that was in Teague.

01:39:58.000 Teague had the big pool.

01:39:59.000 They lived out in the middle of nowhere, like 15 miles from there.

01:40:03.000 And, uh, you know, he'd go to the Five and Dime and get a root beer shake or whatever, root beer float.

01:40:09.000 That's how he, and he said he'd be at the pool and have a walk up and go, are you a Yankee?

01:40:13.000 And it's just those types and they'll let you know.

01:40:17.000 We run things around here.

01:40:20.000 And of course, most people in the town are just working jobs and living and ignoring it.

01:40:24.000 But it's like that with the cops, and they all look like they got either too many or too few chromosomes.

01:40:29.000 They all stumble around.

01:40:30.000 It's all about, I'm the police chief, and I'm the sheriff, and I'm the principal, and it's all like that, and we run things around here.

01:40:43.000 And man, let me tell you, in places in Texas, and Alabama, and Kentucky, but Kentucky seems to be the worst.

01:40:49.000 I mean, you do anything.

01:40:52.000 I mean, they're trying to take your house, and that's what they do. 0.87

01:40:54.000 They take people's houses, and they take land, and they arrest people, and they harass, you know, drifters that come through, and they feed on people, and they harass the blacks and Mexicans, and then what do you expect? 0.97

01:41:06.000 When the Mexicans take over town, they start acting like that to the whites and the blacks. 1.00

01:41:11.000 It's just animal-level base garbage. 1.00

01:41:18.000 Animal level base garbage. 0.99

01:41:21.000 And so I hear about some guy who's out protesting about corrupt local... I mean, remember the guy in Tennessee a few years ago? 0.97

01:41:27.000 I mean, there's been lots of these cases, but we got them on.

01:41:30.000 I want them back on.

01:41:31.000 We ought to do a whole show with people arrested for dropping bubble gum, or arrested for writing OK on a desk, or arrested for drawing a picture of their Marine Corps Captain Dad in art class and being arrested.

01:41:42.000 Or the guy in Tennessee who owned one of the biggest companies in town, by the way.

01:41:47.000 We know that for big guys, too.

01:41:49.000 Owned the biggest construction company in town.

01:41:53.000 He had an ex-wife who was on drugs.

01:41:54.000 That had been in the newspaper.

01:41:57.000 She got in custody of the kids.

01:41:58.000 He didn't like it.

01:41:59.000 So he stuck a sign in his yard saying, our judicial system's a joke.

01:42:04.000 Now he lived outside the county where the court case happened.

01:42:08.000 They sent police out to arrest him at his house and they said, the judge says you're not allowed to do that.

01:42:13.000 And the judge thought that people were living in such a police state.

01:42:18.000 They thought this was normal.

01:42:19.000 The judge gave an interview to the paper and said, you're not allowed to criticize the judicial system and show disrespect.

01:42:26.000 That was in the paper.

01:42:27.000 Now, he later got a judicial review and got sanctioned, and last time I heard, lost the bench.

01:42:31.000 But the point is, they think it's normal.

01:42:34.000 They think in America, we're supposed to sit here and take it.

01:42:38.000 They think we're supposed to sit here and lay down and take their bull.

01:42:43.000 And I, for one, am not going to do it.

01:42:47.000 I don't like being bullied, and I don't like being pushed around.

01:42:50.000 And again, a lot of small towns are great people, nice people, it depends.

01:42:55.000 What happened also, as you know if you've studied migration of human populations into more urbanized settings in the last hundred years, that we were 90% rural and only 10% in the city.

01:43:03.000 10% rural and only 10% in the city.

01:43:12.000 But that has flipped to 80% in the city and 20% outside.

01:43:15.000 So generally the brightest son, a lot of the families that have a lot of money, he got the college money.

01:43:22.000 Or the brightest daughter went into town, or they wanted to go to the big city and seek their fortune.

01:43:28.000 You can't blame them.

01:43:29.000 So also that's why it's so bad in many rural areas.

01:43:31.000 Now you see the reverse.

01:43:32.000 You see a flight of people to the country of higher incomes and higher education, and so you're seeing kind of a reversal of that.

01:43:44.000 But I mean, it's creepy, folks, to have literal power-tripping, you know, pervert-type cops ruling over you.

01:43:50.000 And by pervert-type, you know what I mean, just real seedy and gross and on little power trips and in these weird little, sick little microcosms, these little bitty fishbowls they're in.

01:44:04.000 But you know, everything in my life has taught me there's things behind the scenes you don't know about.

01:44:07.000 I mean, growing up in Rockwell, Texas, smallest county in Texas, most wealthy county in Texas, I mean, Occultism was the norm, ladies and gentlemen. 0.84

01:44:17.000 Everyone was into it.

01:44:20.000 And the wealthy people, the billionaires, and there were billionaires that lived.

01:44:23.000 And a few times, like I said, I had a girlfriend whose parents are well known to this day, multi-billionaires.

01:44:31.000 And I mean, devil worshippers, man, right out in the open.

01:44:33.000 I was like, what?

01:44:35.000 Honey, you're good looking, but you're not that good looking.

01:44:39.000 I mean the real deal.

01:44:42.000 And then I get in all kinds of trouble in fights and car wrecks.

01:44:45.000 You know, I was pretty wild, folks.

01:44:46.000 And I wasn't bad, I was just wild.

01:44:48.000 I get sent to the farm and I'm down there going to Teague High School and they're burning crosses, man!

01:44:56.000 You know, that's the kind of... And the sheriff in the town I grew up in, in Rockwall, we all knew he was the drug dealer.

01:45:02.000 So we'd ask cops pulling us over, look, man, we don't use drugs.

01:45:05.000 I mean, even back in high school, I just drank and I smoked pot occasionally.

01:45:09.000 I didn't like it.

01:45:10.000 And the cops would pull you over and they'd say, we know you're stealing stereo equipment.

01:45:14.000 Admit it now or I'm taking you to jail.

01:45:15.000 I'm like, I haven't stolen nothing.

01:45:18.000 I wanted to tell them I did take some beer a couple times out of the backs of golf cart coolers, though, when I was 13.

01:45:25.000 But uh, but I got a bootlegger I can get it from now, cop!

01:45:28.000 And I didn't say that.

01:45:30.000 Or I can drive it off Dauphin Road in downtown Dallas to the black liquor stores and they'll sell two of your ten! 0.99

01:45:35.000 But I didn't say that.

01:45:37.000 You know, we know you got drugs in here, we want to search it.

01:45:40.000 And even back then, when that young, I knew to go, I'm not doing anything, no you can't search my car.

01:45:45.000 You know, I mean that's why I didn't like the police state too, because I knew they were drug dealers.

01:45:49.000 And then they're pulling me over, asking me about drugs?

01:45:55.000 I mean, you know, everything in my life, I guess, was getting me ready to see what the New World Order was and understand the New World Order.

01:46:07.000 I'm experienced so much more.

01:46:09.000 I'm only 33 years old.

01:46:11.000 Sometimes I wonder, if I lived to be like 80 years old, boy, I'm going to tell you, I would have done some living.

01:46:15.000 I can't imagine the adventures and the bizarreness and the things I'm going to witness then.

01:46:22.000 Alright, I said I'd get into Kurt Vonnegut and I'm going to do that.

01:46:27.000 I learned he died last night, but if I say this tomorrow, it won't have the effect it will have today.

01:46:34.000 I'm in contact with some of his business associates, personal friends of his.

01:46:39.000 I know somebody who is good friends with Kurt, that's how I got in contact with him, in New York.

01:46:44.000 I know someone else who basically manages the affairs of Kurt Vonnegut.

01:46:51.000 I don't want to get into private stuff.

01:46:53.000 I have to look at a -- I think it was right before the Charlie's shooting thing.

01:46:57.000 I think it was more than a year ago.

01:46:59.000 I don't want to get into private stuff.

01:47:03.000 The point is I get a letter, and then I get in contact with some people, and basically they're, well, you know, he thinks that his life's kind of at its end, and I didn't see, like, he'd just given his last university presentation.

01:47:16.000 I think it was up in Ohio at a university.

01:47:18.000 He said, this will be the last time you ever hear me speak, you know, in public.

01:47:21.000 Goodbye.

01:47:22.000 And then I was told by his, uh, through his associates, you know, Kurt likes your work.

01:47:28.000 He's seen some of your films.

01:47:30.000 Uh, here's his address, you know, send some more.

01:47:33.000 And then I got a, uh, he, you know, one of his handmade lithographs of the famous birdcage open.

01:47:43.000 You know, with a For Alex, you know, written on it.

01:47:47.000 You know, For You Alex.

01:47:49.000 Well, it's now up on JonesReport.com and, you know, hand signed, Kurt Vonnegut.

01:47:53.000 And then I got back in touch with him and it was just basically, you know, he thought it was near the end of his life and he's dead now.

01:48:01.000 An 84 years old chain smoker, World War II vet, that he didn't want all the controversy, I guess, there at the end of his life.

01:48:08.000 I cannot say to you that I know this, he was investigating 9-11 truth and he did not believe the official story.

01:48:18.000 So, Kurt Vonnegut was a 9-11 skeptic and it's just too bad that he gave that speech and said George Bush was syphilis to the country, which means the country will go insane, is insane, and he said that we're going into dictatorship and martial law.

01:48:35.000 We ought to go pull that last speech he gave.

01:48:39.000 And so, it's hard to respect somebody and then not let what they really thought be known.

01:48:46.000 But I'm just going to say, the bare minimum, because I do respect him, it's hard to, you know, it was never told to me that it was even his wishes.

01:48:55.000 People contact me with stuff and it's just basically like, well, yeah, you know, I can't even say it without people knowing.

01:49:01.000 The point is, Kurt Vonnegut was a real gentleman.

01:49:09.000 And, you know, I frankly found that really high-powered people who are nice, who haven't become corrupt or evil, are so much more gracious and gentlemanly than just the common person in the street.

01:49:20.000 Like, I can do something for some common person in my life, and they want more and more and more, and they don't appreciate it.

01:49:25.000 And then somebody like Kurt Vonnegut, uh, well, I'm not going to tell you, because it's private, but I'm just going to tell you that Kurt Vonnegut was a real gentleman, and Kurt Vonnegut did have a lot of courage.

01:49:39.000 And, uh, he's gone, but I wanted to just say some nice things about him and say that he was a 9-11 skeptic and was looking into 9-11 being an inside job.

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01:53:33.000 There's been a new development on 9-11 Truth with Dana Carvey.

01:53:39.000 And that's the great thing about a humorist.

01:53:40.000 You can tell that he and Miller know the truth.

01:53:42.000 Miller, a complete sellout.

01:53:44.000 And Carvey's pretty much putting it out there, saying, what if Rosie's right?

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01:54:22.000 You know, I was just thinking about a letter I had concerning this whole Kurt Vonnegut thing, and I was like, about a year ago, I'd give him my house, and I'm like, here, hang this up on the wall.

01:54:34.000 I framed his picture, and then, by the way, where's that letter?

01:54:38.000 And we're like, I don't know.

01:54:39.000 I mean, that's how busy I am.

01:54:42.000 I just never thought I'd get these people are so nice Charlie Sheen gave me the Wolverine jacket that he that's on the cover of the war in the film it's on the cover of Red Dawn just oh this is in the mail one day with a now I've got that in a secure location but I was just it's just I mean I didn't get into this to have Kurt Vonnegut sending me letters and pictures he did hand-signed I didn't get into this to have Charlie Sheen giving me his Wolverine jacket

01:55:12.000 I'm just honored to be here fighting the New World Order, and it's just humbling. 0.52

01:55:20.000 I'm just an average person, and I'm telling you folks, we can win this fight.

01:55:23.000 We've already captured the imagination and the hearts of minds.

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01:55:43.000 And you know, I got a bunch of obnoxious advertising on all the sites.

01:55:46.000 I mean, how am I supposed to pay the bills around here?

01:55:48.000 A lot of it's good advertising, I shouldn't say that.

01:55:50.000 People are like, why do you have a bunch of advertising on there?

01:55:52.000 What am I supposed to do, you know?

01:55:57.000 I say that because we just tried that.

01:56:00.000 They have all those companies that place ads on your websites and then you have settings for it.

01:56:07.000 And I said, put it on the conservative setting.

01:56:09.000 I don't want a bunch of wild ads and mortgage ads and credit card ads.

01:56:13.000 We could go in by computer and block all those out and then they'll pretty much just cancel the contract that we did.

01:56:18.000 But c'est la vie.

01:56:19.000 You just better buy my videos, folks.

01:56:22.000 Because, you know, I hate to talk about money.

01:56:24.000 I personally don't care about it.

01:56:26.000 I don't even have time to spend a little bit of money I've got on pleasures because my pleasure is fighting the New World Order.

01:56:31.000 I am obsessed. 0.99

01:56:32.000 I am... That's why I hate wasting my time on the baloney of life and the baloney infighting and all of the stupidness. 1.00

01:56:39.000 It just sends me into a rage now. 0.99

01:56:41.000 You know, the things that are going on.

01:56:45.000 It's like last night, you know, this local stuff going on here.

01:56:49.000 I am just so sick of it.

01:56:52.000 I actually was in a rage for like an hour last night and I've gotten to where I don't get in rages unless I'm on air and getting mad about something and I just I just I'm just so sick of it and then I cool off and then I'm just tired yet you know we're in crisis mode the bees are dying They're trying to start World War 3.

01:57:19.000 The government carried out 9-11. 0.98

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01:57:58.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:58:02.000 Now, let's go back to your calls.

01:58:08.000 Then we've got a guest coming up.

01:58:09.000 I'm gonna play this piece Dana Carey did of... with Dennis Miller.

01:58:14.000 Is Rosie Wright?

01:58:15.000 Is...

01:58:17.000 Bush behind blowing up the towers. 0.95

01:58:19.000 The answer is no, Bush is a puppet, but the people that control him did.

01:58:22.000 Joe in Maryland and then Jim and others.

01:58:24.000 Go ahead, you're on the air, Joe.

01:58:26.000 Yes, Alex.

01:58:27.000 Yes, go ahead.

01:58:28.000 Yes, this is a pleasure to talk to you.

01:58:30.000 Long time listener, first time caller.

01:58:33.000 This is more of a, I don't know if you could classify it as a question or a statement about the World Trade Centers and the official line that we're supposed to believe that two aircraft flew into them and The heat from the jet fuel weakened the structure and made them fall.

01:58:50.000 You're a student of history.

01:58:51.000 You know that when we dropped the nuclear weapon on Hiroshima, that the only building that remained standing was the one that the bomb detonated directly over top of it.

01:59:03.000 Here you have an unfathomable amount of heat and force.

01:59:08.000 And as far as I know today, that building is still standing.

01:59:11.000 And it's something that I hadn't heard anyone brought up.

01:59:15.000 Um, here the building is 60 years later, um, still standing after a nuclear detonation right over top of it.

01:59:21.000 Well, fill people in on that particular building.

01:59:23.000 I vaguely remember it.

01:59:24.000 Well, uh, uh, if memory serves me correctly, um, the Air Force used, it was actually, the target was supposed to be a bridge in Hiroshima, but of course, you know, not being, uh, uh, it was a free fall bomb.

01:59:37.000 The bomb was dropped, I assume, using the bridge as the target and it must have drifted.

01:59:43.000 The bomb detonated, I believe it was at an altitude of 1,800 feet above this building and the force, the building obviously is at its strongest point is from the top down.

01:59:55.000 And for a building with, you know, who knows what the building standards were in Japan in 1930 or whenever the building was built, but it withstood a direct blast from the top of a nuclear weapon with unfathomable amounts of heat and force and the building is still standing.

02:00:12.000 Yet you're expected to believe that an aircraft traveling at 400 knots flies into a building with who knows how much fuel left on it.

02:00:23.000 The best that I could tell an aircraft when it takes off consumes about at least 25% of its full fuel capacity on takeoff and climb to altitude.

02:00:33.000 And then the trip from that point back to the World Trade Centers Uh, how much fuel?

02:00:40.000 You see that when the aircraft flies into the side of the building, you see a big puff of what's obviously fuel burning.

02:00:46.000 That didn't burn inside the building, but yet we're supposed to believe that fuel and the impact of this aircraft brought down two buildings.

02:00:55.000 Nope.

02:00:56.000 And then you get into building 7, and then you get into hijackers training at U.S.

02:00:59.000 military bases, then you get into CIA insider training, then you get into government drills of planes attacking the exact same buildings at the exact same time.

02:01:06.000 Then you get into motive, then you get into the NORAD stand down, and the order two months before by Cheney to not let generals shoot down planes, changing the default position.

02:01:14.000 And then you get into the U.S.

02:01:15.000 troops' mass to invade Afghanistan in the months before with the launch orders on the desk of Bush two days before.

02:01:21.000 Then you get into hundreds of other points and you know it's a total inside job.

02:01:26.000 Exactly.

02:01:27.000 And this question or comment was mainly obviously geared to the people out there that still cannot accept the fact that there's no way that fuel could heat.

02:01:39.000 Even if it heated the buildings, it wouldn't aerosolize the concrete into giant pyroclastic ejections.

02:01:49.000 Only massive explosives do that. 0.67

02:01:51.000 It turned it into pulverized dust.

02:01:53.000 Exactly.

02:01:55.000 And even if it were possible, what are the odds of all, I believe there were 24 columns in each building, plus you had 4, I think you said 48 foot diameter columns in the center of the building.

02:02:07.000 47, yeah.

02:02:08.000 Even if that were possible, what are the odds of every one of them failing at the same time, which initially would have to happen?

02:02:15.000 And not only to happen once, but to happen twice.

02:02:19.000 Well, and then it happened on 7, too.

02:02:21.000 It's all magical.

02:02:21.000 In fact, we're going to be talking to an expert on this on the other side.

02:02:24.000 Thanks for the call.

02:02:25.000 We will get to Jim and everybody else as well.

02:02:28.000 Kurt Vonnegut, 84, he's dead.

02:02:30.000 And Kurt Vonnegut was a 9-11 skeptic.

02:02:32.000 He was definitely looking at inside job.

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02:05:52.000 Well, Bill Doyle and Bob McElveen today filed a petition with the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, seeking correction of inaccurate factual statements and analysis in NIST reports on the destruction of the Twin Towers.

02:06:09.000 Mr. Doyle, who we've interviewed before, has said he believes it's an inside job.

02:06:13.000 He's the representative of the largest group of 9-11 families in the Coalition of 9-11 Families, and lost his son Joey in the collapse of the Twin Towers.

02:06:21.000 And Mr. McIlvain, an outspoken 9-11 truth activist, lost his son, Bobby, when the World Trade Centers were destroyed.

02:06:28.000 Right now, I want to play, and it's only about a minute and a half long, we'll go right to our guest, Dana Carvey on that sellout, Dennis Miller, you know, the big fake liberal Dennis Miller.

02:06:37.000 Never was a real liberal, folks.

02:06:39.000 Making jokes about, you know, it was Bush behind the towers, and you've got to ask yourself, is Carvey being serious?

02:06:46.000 He might be.

02:06:48.000 Uh, but I don't know.

02:06:49.000 The point is, is that this is exactly how things work, and this is what the facts do show.

02:06:54.000 Uh, here is this piece.

02:06:56.000 Like Rosie O'Donnell, and they just wanna, they wanna ape the notes.

02:07:00.000 You know, young 13 year old boys, who do they look to?

02:07:03.000 They look to, you know, Rosie.

02:07:06.000 Well, my, my take on that, I don't know, I know you probably talked about it yesterday, but what if she's right?

02:07:14.000 The bush blew up the building.

02:07:17.000 Yeah, and that we incited the Iranians with Blair was the whole plan. 0.99

02:07:21.000 And what if she's scared the hell out of this secret neocon conspiracy, this international cartel run by Cheney and Bush and his dad?

02:07:30.000 Are they scared?

02:07:30.000 Are they at night on the phone going, Daddy, she's getting close?

02:07:34.000 I don't know what we're going to do.

02:07:36.000 We gotta keep our heads calm, son.

02:07:38.000 Remember when we had the trouble with Howie Mandel and he got close to our operation?

02:07:43.000 Had to get to the game show to get him off the trail.

02:07:46.000 But, Daddy, we can fool all the people.

02:07:48.000 How come this comic on The View can see right through us?

02:07:49.000 She's crafty. 1.00

02:07:50.000 She's sneaky. 1.00

02:07:50.000 Looks right through ya. 1.00

02:07:51.000 Kind of a rotund oracle.

02:07:51.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Daddy, what about Joey Bear?

02:08:03.000 She's one of ours.

02:08:06.000 Anyway, it goes on and on.

02:08:08.000 I don't want to bore your listeners.

02:08:11.000 Now, I'm not saying they're 9-11 truthers.

02:08:13.000 Obviously, they're making a joke, but you can just hear it in their voice and that fake Dennis Miller laugh, and this is... I mean, these guys aren't stupid. 0.99

02:08:20.000 They cannot know that they've been lied to about 9-11. 0.94

02:08:22.000 I mean, they've got to know, but that clip's up on jonesreport.com, as well as a little lithograph hand sign that Kurt Vonnegut sent me last year.

02:08:31.000 I think I mentioned it once, but since he died yesterday, I thought we'd put it up with a story.

02:08:35.000 Paul Watson, it's also on PrisonPlanet.com, just put a story up about the Kurt Vonnegut thing.

02:08:38.000 I hope you get it out to people.

02:08:40.000 And yeah, he was questioning the official story.

02:08:43.000 I'm not going to say he believed it was an inside job, but what I got was he was investigating, watching my films, and that he certainly thought that there was a lot of evidence towards that.

02:08:53.000 Let's go ahead and go to Bob McElvain.

02:08:57.000 Bob, thank you so much for coming on with us.

02:09:00.000 You're welcome, Alex.

02:09:01.000 Tell us about basically this petition that you guys have brought to NIST and who's involved and then tell us a little bit about your story if you can.

02:09:09.000 Well I'll tell you my story real fast.

02:09:11.000 My son Bobby of course died 9-11.

02:09:13.000 He worked for Merrill Lynch and from the very beginning I sort of had questions but it took a real while for me to get to where I am.

02:09:24.000 It's sort of an evolution.

02:09:25.000 I did make all the commission hearings and Yeah, there was a time during the commission hearing that I just sort of gave up and I said, you know, this just stinks.

02:09:33.000 It was a whitewash.

02:09:34.000 It's a scam.

02:09:36.000 And since that time, I just devote all my time to 9-11 before I was very involved in the peace community.

02:09:41.000 And I sort of just thought of, you know, the blowback theory of Charlie Johnson about, you know, the foreign policy and making people understand what our foreign policy has done.

02:09:51.000 And this is the blowback and why we had 9-11.

02:09:54.000 But again, it evolved into I personally feel it was an inside job.

02:10:02.000 In my travels, I've met so many people who are involved in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

02:10:05.000 Of course, I've met Steve Jones, and they had called me and asked me, and trust me, I don't know if you said it, but I am an expert on this, on the physics.

02:10:15.000 Well, I mean, by expert, you lost family.

02:10:18.000 You lost skin.

02:10:20.000 As far as this petition, it's so important that I put myself out there as a family member.

02:10:27.000 And to any listeners, to those jokesters that were just on the air, just any time they want to make a joke about this, just put them in my position, or as a father, or I mean, sorry, as a husband or a wife, and your relative or your son or your daughter has been murdered, and you supposedly have an investigation.

02:10:51.000 Well, this is what the 9-11 Commission hearing was all about, and I'm not going to sit here and talk about that.

02:10:55.000 I could talk about that for another Six hours.

02:10:59.000 But, it was a whitewash.

02:11:01.000 It was never meant to be an investigation.

02:11:04.000 Benveniste actually said, this is not an investigation, it is merely an exposition.

02:11:10.000 What is an exposition?

02:11:11.000 You just lay things on the, you know, facts on the table, and then you make the decision what happened.

02:11:16.000 Well, they said that we're not trying to assess blame here, we're just going to basically come up with recommendations of what to do, and that was in the Republic Total Police State.

02:11:26.000 Correct.

02:11:28.000 And just as far as this petition, it's a petition by, well, Steve Jones is involved, and a couple other people, and of course Bill Doyle, and it's a request for a correction of the information disseminated.

02:11:40.000 Disseminated, of course, information they threw out.

02:11:44.000 And the main crux, and now you're talking about 10,000 page report.

02:11:51.000 NIST being the National Institute of Standards Technology.

02:11:55.000 It was their job to investigate the reasons for the failure of the World Trade Center's 1, 2, and 7 falling down.

02:12:03.000 Okay?

02:12:04.000 Now, go back quickly to the Commission.

02:12:06.000 Their only response to what happened that day, that the core, I heard you talking about the core a couple minutes ago, the core of the building was hollow, only filled with stairways and elevators.

02:12:21.000 That's the only information we got from the Commission.

02:12:24.000 Obviously, I think the whole crux of the story is how in the world could 47 steel columns in the corner of the building possibly fall from this attack?

02:12:39.000 So the whole report, and this is very important, the National Institute of Standard Technology one half a page discussing why the towers fall fell.

02:12:51.000 As was with the commission, the NFIC just spent time parroting what the government wanted them to say.

02:13:02.000 And it's not an objective report, and this is what this is all about.

02:13:08.000 We are requesting that we get objective information disseminated to the public, period.

02:13:14.000 Absolutely, and then they never even mentioned Building 7 in the report.

02:13:18.000 Of course they didn't mention Building 7.

02:13:19.000 So this report is basically one and two, just to show people, so they can get it out in layman's terms, that's their duty, to disseminate this information in an objective and unbiased Matter.

02:13:35.000 The same kind of what the Commission was supposed to do and this NSIT is supposed to do.

02:13:41.000 And certainly it's not unbiased.

02:13:43.000 And so this is what it's a 28 page petition and explaining what hasn't been done in 28 pages.

02:13:51.000 But it's very important it comes out in layman's terms so people understand it.

02:13:55.000 No one's going to read a 10,000 page report.

02:13:58.000 Now I want to go back, because there is architect Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects, and there's a scientist and former site manager of Environmental Health, Underwriting Laboratories, Kevin Ryan has signed on, and then of course there's Dr. Steven Jones, a physicist, and a lot of others.

02:14:19.000 But before we get into that, First off, I'd like to specifically talk about your son and personalize this for people because I've talked to literally hundreds of victims, family members here on the show.

02:14:31.000 I've listened to hundreds of other interviews on other shows.

02:14:34.000 I've talked to the heads of the family groups like Bill Doyle saying more than half believe inside job.

02:14:38.000 I believe inside job.

02:14:40.000 He said the same thing you said about how it was a process.

02:14:42.000 What is it like when you see Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity and people like Glenn Beck say all the families believe that Bin Laden and all the families love George Bush and all the families want the war and use your name and your son's name for their police state and their wars.

02:15:03.000 What is that like?

02:15:04.000 When the truth is most people hate them, hate Giuliani, the firefighters hate him.

02:15:09.000 I've been to Ground Zero many times.

02:15:11.000 Well, how do I feel?

02:15:12.000 It's like I'm shaking right now.

02:15:13.000 a majority believe it's an inside job, and then still this fraud goes, and then the final thing, you know, what happened to your son?

02:15:21.000 What do you think of them using you?

02:15:22.000 And then finally, if everybody is waking up and starting to go public, how are the real perpetrators gonna contain this? - Well, how do I feel?

02:15:30.000 It's like I'm shaking right now.

02:15:31.000 I get extremely upset, and that's why I really have to pace myself on this, because I just can't let my emotions take control of what I'm doing.

02:15:39.000 You know, it's almost like I gotta believe that I gotta keep playing in the sea.

02:15:43.000 And the fact that I'm out here really helps me.

02:15:45.000 I either have to turn the TV off, stop reading, and just walk away from it, or I have to be totally immersed in it.

02:15:52.000 And, of course, I watch a rally.

02:15:53.000 I've been on a rally show.

02:15:54.000 I've been involved in Hannity and Columns, and it's very, very difficult.

02:15:58.000 I have a bad temper, and I don't know what I would do if I met them individually.

02:16:03.000 I've been, you know, like I would when I was on the Bill O'Reilly Show.

02:16:06.000 I was down in Philadelphia.

02:16:07.000 Because I said that.

02:16:08.000 I said I cannot possibly be on the show in person because I'm afraid what would happen.

02:16:14.000 And it gets me extremely upset.

02:16:16.000 But I truly have to believe that.

02:16:19.000 I've just got to stay out there and believe that planting seeds is the best thing I can possibly do.

02:16:24.000 And stay totally active.

02:16:25.000 And it's extremely difficult to do.

02:16:27.000 I get very depressed.

02:16:29.000 And the fact that they can make jokes of it.

02:16:32.000 And again, anyone that's listening It's just, it's simple information, it's objective information, and one of the grandest pieces of propaganda that goes back to the turn of the century is, you call people's names.

02:16:46.000 And this is very important, you call names, make a joke of it.

02:16:50.000 Because this gets to the lowest level of people.

02:16:53.000 And this is all part of propaganda.

02:16:55.000 So, and I don't understand why they do that, but it's just that, you know, I don't know what book I read, but it's like they're desk murderers.

02:17:03.000 Are you offended by what Dennis Miller and Dana Carvey were, you know, joking?

02:17:11.000 I mean, you lost your son.

02:17:12.000 I'm offended by everything.

02:17:15.000 I truly, truly, I just wish I could get them in a room and just one-on-one and not on TV.

02:17:21.000 You know, I just have to tell myself, hey, they're all in it for the money.

02:17:25.000 And if they haven't investigated this, I truly believe they believe what they're saying.

02:17:30.000 But they're not reading it.

02:17:31.000 So it's just, you know, ignorance is blissful.

02:17:34.000 Please stay with us.

02:17:35.000 Please stay with us.

02:17:35.000 I want to talk about the report.

02:17:36.000 Please, sir.

02:17:37.000 This is very painful for all of us.

02:17:38.000 I know most of all for you.

02:17:40.000 We'll be right back.

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02:22:10.000 McIlvain has got to leave us soon, but I want to get him up for a full hour in the near future to really tell his story and what happened to him and his family.

02:22:21.000 So you're one of the victims, family members, a victim of all this yourself, though I can't imagine losing my son, that signed on to this.

02:22:30.000 But I mean, again, describe what this petition to NIST says and why it's important and why people should go check it out for themselves.

02:22:40.000 Well, it's very simple.

02:22:41.000 The people who signed on, Stephen Jones, Ryan Gage, myself, Phil Doyle, we're called the requesters of the petition.

02:22:50.000 We're requesting for correction of information disseminated by the National Institute of Standards and Technology.

02:22:58.000 That's NIST.

02:22:59.000 These are the people who wrote this paper on the WTC, the World Trade Center 1 and 2.

02:23:05.000 And that's stuff like there were no 47 steel columns and the Easter Bunny did it?

02:23:09.000 You're correct.

02:23:10.000 And again, their job is just to disseminate information in an objective, utilitarian manner.

02:23:18.000 In other words, it's intended to be used by the public to understand what happened.

02:23:23.000 And quickly, one half page was devoted to why the towers fell.

02:23:28.000 And this is why Steve Jones, physicist, engineers have gotten involved in it.

02:23:33.000 They haven't explained.

02:23:34.000 And you know, people call me a conspiracy theorist, And I'll say, well, no one's explained anything to me.

02:23:43.000 And specifically, I'm just using the towers now, but I could go on and on and on about other subjects.

02:23:48.000 I want to know why my son was murdered.

02:23:51.000 And probably he died when the towers came down.

02:23:54.000 And there's a good possibility he died from an explosion.

02:23:57.000 Well, if it's from an explosion, then who murdered my son?

02:24:00.000 It's obviously not the planes going in there.

02:24:03.000 Because he was on the outside when it came down, when the planes hit, supposedly.

02:24:07.000 So that's all I want.

02:24:09.000 I want to know who murdered my son and how anybody can possibly question that.

02:24:13.000 And then look at the commission and look at this misreport where they don't give you any answers at all.

02:24:22.000 For those that have studied history and know military tactics, it's called sacrifice.

02:24:27.000 I mean, generals will sacrifice back in the big wars, you know, 10,000 troops in a maneuver Just to suck in an enemy.

02:24:33.000 They'll send in our troops to get caught in a gorge and then suck in the main force of the other enemy.

02:24:38.000 But people can't imagine they'd kill 2,800 and something Americans, including your son, to get World War III kicked off and take global control.

02:24:46.000 They've got another thing coming as this unravels.

02:24:48.000 Or, A, do you agree it's unraveling?

02:24:50.000 And then the 9-11 truth is accelerating and more and more family members are going public?

02:24:54.000 I mean, that's what's happened.

02:24:55.000 And then what will the establishment and those guilty do?

02:24:58.000 What can they do?

02:24:59.000 Because I don't think they expected for people to start waking up like you and others have done.

02:25:05.000 Well, what would they do?

02:25:06.000 I don't know.

02:25:06.000 To me, it's like I spent a lot of time in Iran-Contra.

02:25:09.000 And I know Iran-Contra and then going into the Clinton years, a lot of people just start disappearing.

02:25:14.000 I think that's going to be their only alternative.

02:25:16.000 Hopefully, I'm very pessimistic because I get so down and I really do get depressed about all this.

02:25:23.000 And I can see it.

02:25:25.000 You know, the truth movement is moving forward.

02:25:29.000 But I just don't know, because people I talk to, they just don't want to believe that this can possibly happen.

02:25:35.000 And I really do have hope.

02:25:36.000 And it does help me to talk on shows and to keep getting involved with people and to do my reading.

02:25:43.000 But I don't know.

02:25:44.000 I think I'm a pessimist.

02:25:45.000 I just don't have that much hope, you know, because I just think there's going to be another false flag.

02:25:50.000 That's our only alternative.

02:25:51.000 Let everybody forget about it again.

02:25:54.000 Is it painful when they do carry out false flags like 7-7?

02:25:58.000 I mean, to see the, obviously, the killers grandstanding as the saviors?

02:26:02.000 I mean, this isn't like a normal murder, where they murder and they disappear into the night, you never know who they are or see them.

02:26:07.000 With this, you've got to look at the killers on TV, traipsing around as heroes.

02:26:13.000 Well, what is that like for you?

02:26:14.000 Well, it's really bad.

02:26:15.000 I think you have to be a real student of history to... it just doesn't overwhelm me.

02:26:19.000 I mean, if you understand this century, I've talked in South America, I've been to Japan, I've talked around the world, and people around the world have been dying like this forever.

02:26:31.000 I really don't want to be looked at as a victim.

02:26:33.000 I'm just part of this, what you call, I guess, the New World Order.

02:26:40.000 It's a Machiavellian philosophy.

02:26:41.000 They really feel justified in doing anything they want, as long as it's good for what they say is the national good.

02:26:48.000 It's like Lee Hamilton constantly is involved in covering up things.

02:26:51.000 Well, it's because it's for national security.

02:26:54.000 So that's where the justification is.

02:26:56.000 So it doesn't matter how many people die, because it's for the national good.

02:27:01.000 And that's what people have to understand.

02:27:02.000 We as individual citizens, it's like you said, making the comparison to a military general saying, hey, we're going to sacrifice 10,000 people.

02:27:10.000 My son was sacrificed for the good of what they think is Good for the nation.

02:27:16.000 And that's sad.

02:27:17.000 It really is sad.

02:27:17.000 And it's extremely upsetting.

02:27:19.000 Extremely upsetting.

02:27:20.000 God bless you, Bob McIlvain.

02:27:22.000 We'll have you up again soon.

02:27:23.000 Thank you for the time, my friend.

02:27:24.000 And we've got links to the petition and info on InfoWars.com.

02:27:27.000 Thank you.

02:27:28.000 Thanks for your help, Mark.

02:27:28.000 All right.

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02:30:43.000 You just heard from a father whose son was murdered by these people.

02:31:06.000 And yeah, I played that club full well knowing that it would be offensive to that father, but I wanted to point out that that's done every day on national television, on the radio, and he hears that every day.

02:31:25.000 I talked to him beforehand.

02:31:29.000 That's what they do.

02:31:32.000 And they have to hear that, and it makes them mad.

02:31:33.000 So we're illustrating that here on air.

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02:31:38.000 You laugh about 2,800 and something dead people killed by criminal elements of this government because you're a slack-jawed yuppie. 0.81

02:31:46.000 But slack-jawed yuppies, do you think you're safe?

02:31:50.000 Do you think you're part of the system?

02:31:52.000 Do you think that stuff can't happen to you?

02:31:55.000 A government that'll do that will do all sorts of other things.

02:31:57.000 And let me give you the newsflash.

02:32:00.000 They are doing all of those things to you.

02:32:05.000 They're doing that to you every day and every way.

02:32:08.000 Alright, I know we've got a lot of phone lines here with Tim and Johnny and Pat and JD and Tom.

02:32:17.000 We're going to get to you, but I've got some other news here.

02:32:20.000 Some genetically modified plant news and what health effects it's causing and some other things.

02:32:25.000 But what we'll do is I'm going to play this six or so minute clip Six minute long clip of James Bamford, big researcher, former news exec at ABC News, getting to Northwoods, but then he's got a book out about Iraq being a pre-planned stage deal.

02:32:41.000 He talks about, so it's three different clips, three different, one of them's national TV and the other two are local, I think one's New York, one's Boston, television.

02:32:52.000 It's just, we've interviewed him before, but this is kind of condensed and important to hear as well, because we keep hammering on 9-11 truth a lot lately.

02:32:58.000 You know, I might go a month sometimes without really talking a lot about it.

02:33:01.000 I should.

02:33:02.000 Lately I've been on it a lot, because sometimes I might go a month solid on it, because it's so central.

02:33:07.000 The war, the police state, everything is based now on that fraud.

02:33:11.000 It must crumble.

02:33:13.000 We must defeat that lie.

02:33:15.000 Then we'll go to your calls after this and then hit some other news reports.

02:33:19.000 So here it is, ladies and gentlemen.

02:33:22.000 Oh, and whoever put this on the web, put some music over the start of it.

02:33:26.000 We've cut most of the intro off, but it overlaps some of Bamford, so that fades out in a moment.

02:33:31.000 Bear with us.

02:33:32.000 Here it is.

02:33:34.000 To show that there was an attack by Cuba on the United States.

02:33:40.000 And the idea was to have U.S. 0.75

02:33:43.000 personnel from the CIA and other places secretly create terrorism in the United States.

02:33:50.000 The documents actually said people would be shot on American streets, bombs would be blown up.

02:33:56.000 And again, all this, the evidence would be laid to point the finger at Castro.

02:34:03.000 One other idea was they were going to they had a very complex plan where they were going to take an aircraft and load it with CIA people who look like college students, fly it over to have it take off from an airport in Miami with a lot of publicity.

02:34:17.000 And then it would quickly, after it got into the air, land at a secret CIA base.

02:34:24.000 At that same time, an identical plane would take off from that CIA base.

02:34:28.000 So this plane would be empty.

02:34:30.000 And it would be remotely piloted from the ground.

02:34:33.000 It was a drone plane that would be very similar to the passenger plane that had just taken off.

02:34:39.000 And once the plane was over Cuba, there was going to be a tape recorder that would have played Distress call into a microphone saying help or being shot at and a few minutes later once the plane was over the Caribbean Sea for Passover Cuba it would have somebody would have pressed the button on the ground blowing up the plane and they would have blamed Cuba for killing a plane load of American college students.

02:35:02.000 These were all outrageous plans.

02:35:06.000 They made their way all the way up to Secretary of Defense McNamara.

02:35:10.000 Actually the plans were all signed by all members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and then they went up to McNamara and McNamara rejected the plan and that was the end of it.

02:35:21.000 So it never got put into effect but the fact that you can get all the members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the senior military officials in the U.S.

02:35:31.000 government signing off on a plan that outrageous is extraordinary to me.

02:35:39.000 Good evening, you're watching the Digital Age, and I'm James Goodale.

02:35:43.000 The Digital Age talks about terrorism, because terrorism is part of the Digital Age, and tonight, we are going to talk about terrorism, and we're going to talk about a book that talks about 9-11 and Iraq.

02:35:56.000 This book, as you can see, is called A Pretext for War, 9-11, Iraq, and the Abuse of our Intelligence Agencies.

02:36:07.000 It was written by James Bamford.

02:36:10.000 Jim Bamford.

02:36:11.000 And thank you for stopping by.

02:36:14.000 Jim, it's great to see you again.

02:36:16.000 My pleasure, Jim.

02:36:17.000 Thank you.

02:36:18.000 Now, your conclusion.

02:36:19.000 I'm going to read your conclusion of this whole book and ask you some questions about it.

02:36:24.000 Here's what you say.

02:36:25.000 Thus, the Bush administration's massive disinformation campaign, abetted by a lazy and timid press, Succeeded spectacularly in driving the public to support its long-planned war.

02:36:43.000 So, I want to ask you, generally speaking, we get to the end and you can respond more particularly if you wish, but we'll deal with it as we go along.

02:36:53.000 Was there really a disinformation plan?

02:36:58.000 Well, I guess you could say yes there is.

02:37:00.000 Okay, so what was the disinformation plan?

02:37:03.000 The administration had been wanting to go to war for years, even before they came together in January of 2001.

02:37:09.000 They'd been wanting this war in Iraq. 0.59

02:37:12.000 They'd done everything that they once, in 1996, the same group of people, There were the architects of the war in Iraq planned it for Israel and they sent it to Benjamin Netanyahu, the former Prime Minister of Netanyahu, when he became Prime Minister and Netanyahu didn't go along with it.

02:37:28.000 They tried to get... Stop, stop, stop.

02:37:31.000 That's quite a mouthful that you just said there.

02:37:34.000 Right.

02:37:35.000 And I don't think I've read that anywhere else and if anyone were to read your book, they ought to read the book I would say in some part because of what you just said.

02:37:46.000 Which was there was a plan on the books that had been given effectively to Israel and it was reactivated.

02:37:53.000 And I want to explain more about that.

02:37:55.000 But I also want to say that I tried to get someone else to come on the program to counter Your view on this, because I think this is a pretty unique statement.

02:38:10.000 So, excuse the interruption, but explain a little bit more about, there already was a plan, 1990 what?

02:38:17.000 The plan had been there from 1996 and was mothballed, and that's what you're saying, and was brought out, and... Yeah, in 1996, three people, there were more, but three key people who later became senior officials in the George W. Bush administration, Richard Perle, who became the chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Douglas Fyfe, who became

02:38:41.000 The number three person in the Pentagon, the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, and David Wilmser, who ran a little intelligence unit in the Pentagon and then became Vice President Cheney's Middle East Advisor.

02:38:54.000 They were working for Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel.

02:38:57.000 They actually signed on as consultants to Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996.

02:39:02.000 Which sounds extraordinary as it is, but they did.

02:39:06.000 And one of the things they did was create a foreign policy forum with regard to what they should do in the Middle East.

02:39:14.000 And one of their key suggestions was to overthrow Saddam Hussein and replace him with a leader who was friendly to both Israel and the United States.

02:39:25.000 The person they had in mind was Ahmed Chalabi, who later became fairly famous in the US attack.

02:39:32.000 1996.

02:39:33.000 This was 1996.

02:39:34.000 They had a plan to put Chalabi in power.

02:39:37.000 It was called a clean break.

02:39:38.000 I mean, the plan is still on.

02:39:40.000 It was for a think tank in Israel that they were doing this for on behalf of Benjamin Netanyahu.

02:39:49.000 They were paid by a think tank in Israel?

02:39:52.000 Yeah, it was a think tank.

02:39:54.000 I can't remember the name of it right now, but it's on their website.

02:39:58.000 Somebody does a Google search of a clean break and they'll find it.

02:40:01.000 It's well known.

02:40:03.000 Nobody's ever denied it.

02:40:05.000 It's out there.

02:40:06.000 Right after September 11th, Richard Perle's Defense Policy Board had this big meeting.

02:40:13.000 Do you know who was at that meeting?

02:40:15.000 Achmed Chalabi.

02:40:17.000 And Henry Kissinger.

02:40:18.000 The whole board was there.

02:40:22.000 Yeah, at least Henry Kissinger.

02:40:24.000 There's a reason for him to be there.

02:40:26.000 What was Chalabi doing at a meeting?

02:40:31.000 When he's not even a member of the policy?

02:40:33.000 Of course he's not.

02:40:34.000 He's an Iraqi.

02:40:36.000 Oh, I see.

02:40:38.000 The whole idea was for years and years and years and years to overthrow Iraq, get rid of Saddam Hussein, put their friend Ahmed Chalabi in office.

02:40:50.000 This is not an original idea on my part.

02:40:55.000 This is well known by now.

02:40:58.000 All the reviews about your book say it's a great book because you connect the dots.

02:41:01.000 The entire top of the building just blew up.

02:41:04.000 The second explosion.

02:41:05.000 Second explosion.

02:41:06.000 And another explosion.

02:41:07.000 And another explosion.

02:41:08.000 We have a report now of a fourth explosion at the Trade Center.

02:41:13.000 There has just been a huge explosion.

02:41:16.000 Huge explosion.

02:41:18.000 It almost looks like one of those implosions of buildings that you see.

02:41:23.000 We heard a very loud blast, an explosion.

02:41:26.000 Not clear now is why this explosion took place.

02:41:31.000 Do you know if it was an explosion or if it was a building collapse?

02:41:35.000 To me it sounded like an explosion.

02:41:39.000 All the members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the senior military officials in the U.S.

02:41:44.000 government signing off on a plan that outrageous is extraordinary to me welcome back ladies and gentlemen Welcome back.

02:42:01.000 Do any of you feel safe?

02:42:04.000 I mean, in 63, they just killed one guy and then a couple hundred to cover it up.

02:42:10.000 Then in 93, they tried to blow up one of the whole towers, but thank God the people they trained didn't park it right up against the column, didn't do it.

02:42:16.000 World Trade Center.

02:42:17.000 Then in 93, they, you know, Killed some people at Waco, but that was just to demonize and set the precedent to attack, quote, cults.

02:42:26.000 Then, a few years later, in 95, they killed 160-something.

02:42:30.000 What, 168?

02:42:33.000 And then on 9-11, folks, they killed almost 3,000 people.

02:42:38.000 So, if you look at how things grow each time, we're talking about hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions next time.

02:42:49.000 They will stop at nothing.

02:42:51.000 They will never stop.

02:42:52.000 Let me tell you, right now they're not invincible.

02:42:55.000 If they get the strategic bomber forces under robotic satellite control, which they're going to have within just five, six years, laden with neutron weapons, neutron bombs and hydrogen weapons, and if they get the Air Force switched over to robotic and enough ground deployment forces,

02:43:17.000 You're dealing where the elite can actually attack the population, claim somebody else did it, do whatever they want, and actually have the elite, a tiny group of people, in actual control.

02:43:28.000 For the first time in history, they can literally do whatever they want, and kill whoever they want.

02:43:33.000 And they're a bunch of eugenic freaks, who all they do is go to eugenics conferences and sit around and talk about it, and fund it, and talk about how they're super genetics. 0.98

02:43:41.000 I mean, that's their religion. 0.96

02:43:43.000 And they can't wait to build a control grid, using 9-11 as the pretext, to kill us in an orderly fashion.

02:43:53.000 I'm sorry that that's the truth, and I'm sorry that the real world's a scary place, and I'm sorry that that's what we face.

02:44:00.000 They could use super-plagues.

02:44:01.000 They'll probably use genetically engineered, race-specific bioweapons. 0.99

02:44:04.000 it probably won't be not by fire but by bioweapon not by fire but by the cold shakes and bio warfare Now I'm so sick of it.

02:44:22.000 I mean, we have a guild of the priests of power who revel in the unmitigated, unadulterated, unrestricted, absolute exercise of power.

02:44:35.000 Every control freak, every criminal, every psychopath you've ever known, every creepy person you've ever known, with breeding and aplomb and social graces and the best schooling, inbred with a mission to have all the technology and life extension and everything inbred with a mission to have all the technology and life extension and everything for themselves, the ultimate in The ultimate.

02:45:03.000 Scientifically built and focused and being used against us, and you've got the general public running around giggling, busting their hind ends to be able to buy baubles and trinkets and symbols of power, which are just churned out of the slave factories of the New World Order that which are just churned out of the slave factories of the New They tell you what to care about, which isn't real. 0.64

02:45:27.000 That's why I don't have time, folks.

02:45:28.000 I don't have time for people that work around me, that play games, that I've been around, and who try to control me.

02:45:34.000 I don't have time for people in the community that snipe at me and lie about me.

02:45:37.000 I don't have time for anyone to mess with me.

02:45:40.000 I am on a mission.

02:45:42.000 Period.

02:45:45.000 And that's why I get so angry when I get distracted from it.

02:45:49.000 Help me in this mission.

02:45:51.000 Join me.

02:45:52.000 Beside me.

02:45:52.000 Not behind me.

02:45:53.000 In front of me.

02:45:55.000 We're here together.

02:45:58.000 This is real.

02:46:00.000 And I don't have words to describe how serious it is.

02:46:03.000 You know it's really, really, really bad.

02:46:07.000 Let's jam a few calls in here.

02:46:08.000 Who's up first here?

02:46:11.000 Jim in Texas, go ahead.

02:46:13.000 Hey there, Mr. Jones.

02:46:15.000 How you doing?

02:46:16.000 I guess I'm doing alright.

02:46:18.000 I was just calling on behalf of... I was watching this commercial the other day, or it was actually a television Where do you think video games came from?

02:46:30.000 All these video games were influencing young kids, blah, blah, blah, but the military has a video game that they had created themselves for training purposes in the military.

02:46:41.000 And it kind of intrigued me because, you know, I'm all...

02:46:42.000 Where do you think video games came from?

02:46:45.000 Oh, they came from the higher intelligent people, the military, creators.

02:46:51.000 They were training aids to artificially install kill instinct, reflex of fire.

02:46:59.000 Yeah, yeah, and that kind of intrigued me because I play the game myself all the time, you know.

02:47:04.000 But the thing is, is they got in-depth, detailed training on what you would actually do in the military, you know.

02:47:11.000 What do you think simulators, you fly a simulator to learn how to fly an aircraft and to stay up on it, and see, I mean, these are killing simulators.

02:47:20.000 Yeah, yeah, and it's really intriguing because, I mean, the thing is that I just want to kind of, you know, help you out too as well.

02:47:28.000 I want the world to kind of open their eyes because, I mean, everything that people, even around you, that, you know, that you ain't even paying attention to the conversation that they're talking about, but some of the things that people say are pertaining to half of the stuff that, you know, is going on in this world, but, you know, it seems like they don't even care about it, you know?

02:47:47.000 Well, they're going to find out.

02:47:48.000 Listen, you act like a bunch of sheep out there on the field and tell yourself there's not wolves in the world, you're going to get your guts torn out.

02:47:55.000 I heard a comment, as a matter of fact, last night on the Inferno 3, the television show Inferno 3. 0.99

02:48:04.000 A gentleman, one of them kids got on there and said, the evil will always triumph because good is dumb. 0.97

02:48:13.000 Those are his words. 0.99

02:48:16.000 What show is this on?

02:48:18.000 Inferno 3.

02:48:19.000 Listen, I've got to jump, but put all that in the story.

02:48:22.000 We'll post it.

02:48:22.000 E-mail it to us.

02:48:23.000 I mean, put your observations together of the media.

02:48:26.000 We'll start posting them.

02:48:28.000 Look, they train you that torturing children is good on 24.

02:48:31.000 They're indoctrinating you, bathing you in the wickedness, seducing you into psychopathic appetites.

02:48:39.000 It's here after a year in production and traveling to distant lands.

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02:48:51.000 Shocking declassified government documents prove that western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.

02:48:59.000 Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.

02:49:06.000 Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, the White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.

02:49:18.000 Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.

02:49:22.000 It's an anthology of government crimes.

02:49:24.000 Terror Storm is a film that everyone who wants to be truly informed must see.

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02:51:41.000 All right, folks.

02:51:55.000 I've got a camera and a call or two here.

02:51:57.000 Maybe Johnny and Pat.

02:51:58.000 I want to go to JD, Tom, everybody.

02:51:59.000 But we just can't do it all here.

02:52:01.000 Try to have more open phones tomorrow.

02:52:03.000 But we'll try to take a few in a second.

02:52:05.000 If I don't quit babbling.

02:52:06.000 Just talking about video games.

02:52:07.000 There's lots of video game things I could play.

02:52:09.000 But here's the one we've got where the UN takes over and saves us.

02:52:12.000 And this is just total conditioning.

02:52:14.000 And most of the games are like this.

02:52:16.000 Here it is.

02:52:17.000 Following a disputed election and a tie vote, The U.S.

02:52:21.000 Congress installs the most unpopular president in U.S.

02:52:24.000 history as David Jefferson Adams becomes the 44th President of the United States.

02:52:30.000 Shortly after the election, increased unrest, rioting, and a growing number of militias ...have given rise to ever-increasing domestic terrorism.

02:52:40.000 In response, the President invokes the Homeland Security Act, and declares martial law on the West Coast and other areas of the country.

02:52:47.000 Though highly contested, a Supreme Court ruling sidesteps the electoral process, disqualifying popular presidential candidates from several states.

02:52:57.000 Public outrage explodes when a sham election leads to incumbent David Adams accepting a second term in office.

02:53:06.000 During the 57th Inauguration Day Ceremonies, Washington D.C.

02:53:10.000 is struck by a low-yield nuclear weapon, killing David Adams and most of the U.S.

02:53:15.000 Congress.

02:53:18.000 The destruction of Washington D.C.

02:53:20.000 effectively breaks the chain of succession, sending the nation into chaos.

02:53:25.000 In an emergency vote, the European Union deploys peacekeepers in the greater D.C.

02:53:30.000 area to secure international interest.

02:53:34.000 With separatist sentiment rising, California's governor declares home rule and secedes from the Union.

02:53:42.000 Texas follows quickly and declares sovereignty, taking neighboring states with them and forming the Republic of Texas.

02:53:51.000 Now.

02:53:54.000 The once United States of America lie in ruin.

02:53:59.000 The time for words has passed.

02:54:02.000 And the Second American Civil War now erupts as seven factions wage war across the land.

02:54:09.000 They battle one another to reclaim a nation.

02:54:13.000 To restore peace.

02:54:16.000 To rebuild this shattered union.

02:54:23.000 And the incredible thing is, that's actually a New World Order plan with the Southwest and Civil War they plan to scur up.

02:54:28.000 It wouldn't be that big and go on that long, but they want to take us out of the game.

02:54:35.000 And they're really setting up for that.

02:54:37.000 I mean, here's the Associated Press.

02:54:39.000 Oh, the New York cops will be working for the UN.

02:54:42.000 Oh, and going, I mean, it's just... When does it end?

02:54:44.000 When does it stop?

02:54:45.000 You know what?

02:54:46.000 I can't take calls, because I just remembered I've got to cover this, I promise to.

02:54:49.000 Can't even plug my films!

02:54:50.000 Available at InfoWars.com.

02:54:52.000 Because I said I'd cover this.

02:54:53.000 Monsanto's GM corn, MON863, shows kidney liver toxicity in animal studies.

02:55:02.000 And this is from News Target.

02:55:04.000 It goes through all the documents.

02:55:06.000 It says the corn in question, MON863, is made by the Monsanto company.

02:55:12.000 It's made by them.

02:55:13.000 And approved for use in Australia, Canada, China, the European Union, Japan, Mexico, and the Philippines.

02:55:18.000 And the United States.

02:55:19.000 And by the way, they're all toxic.

02:55:21.000 I've had scientists, Nobel Prize winners on.

02:55:24.000 I mean, these are official studies.

02:55:26.000 Hundreds of them.

02:55:26.000 And they keep them quiet, most of them.

02:55:28.000 I mean, just kill stuff. 0.98

02:55:29.000 Just keep gobbling. 1.00

02:55:30.000 Let the bees die. 1.00

02:55:32.000 Let's just have a global warming tax, though.

02:55:33.000 Totally fake.

02:55:35.000 It has had a gene inserted from bacteria Bacillus thrunigenesis, Bt, which causes the plant cells to produce a pesticide.

02:55:44.000 And this is the one.

02:55:45.000 This is a separate deal.

02:55:46.000 This was with rats.

02:55:48.000 And this was with, uh, Other mammals.

02:55:52.000 And this is a thing they link to killing the bees.

02:55:54.000 And it goes into say researchers fed rats either modified corn or diets containing 11 or 30 percent of the engineered corn.

02:56:01.000 The rats who ate the modified corn were found to exhibit signs of liver and kidney toxicity as well as signs of hormonal changes.

02:56:09.000 Male rats lost an average of 3.3 percent of their body weight.

02:56:12.000 And it goes on.

02:56:13.000 Keep feeding your kids at all.

02:56:14.000 We're all going to eat it. 0.74

02:56:15.000 I guess we're all going to die.

02:56:17.000 Back tonight, 9 to midnight.

02:56:18.000 Back tomorrow.

02:56:19.000 God bless you all!

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