Alex Jones Show - 20071010_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:21.000 Music It is Wednesday, already the 10th day of October 2007.

00:00:36.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:37.000 Hello, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:40.000 Hello, and thank you for joining us.

00:00:42.000 It is Wednesday, already the 10th day of October 2007.

00:00:48.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:00:56.000 Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America will be with us for an entire hour, coming up in the second hour, because I want to spend a lot of time on the subject.

00:01:07.000 He's going to be covering.

00:01:08.000 How?

00:01:11.000 How to actually defend the Second Amendment.

00:01:16.000 How to save the Second Amendment, which is being ripped limb from limb as we speak.

00:01:24.000 We're also going to talk about the history of the NRA.

00:01:29.000 Now they wouldn't talk about the NRA and go after the NRA in the past.

00:01:34.000 The NRA was not involved in quote defending gun rights until Gun Owners of America was founded and started lobbying in the early 1970s and then suddenly the NRA then had been a shooting club and a gun control group.

00:01:53.000 That's right, a gun control group!

00:02:00.000 Suddenly became our guardian, and it has 4 million members.

00:02:04.000 Gun Owners of America has 150,000 members.

00:02:08.000 Gun Owners is big.

00:02:11.000 And if we can mobilize the 150,000 members of Gun Owners, and if we can increase the numbers of Gun Owners of America, this is a major chink in the armor of the New World Order that I see. 0.80

00:02:22.000 Now, people can take my advice for what it's worth, but I think if you research the data on this, you will find that I am correct.

00:02:30.000 This is a major attack point that we need to use.

00:02:36.000 That we need to exploit against the enemy.

00:02:39.000 We can defeat the NRA.

00:02:42.000 We can use their own documents, their own admissions.

00:02:46.000 I have Larry up every few months and I had him on a week or so ago.

00:02:51.000 But week before last, and I started attacking the NRA, and finally he went ahead and said what he knew, and of course knew more than I did about it, and started totally destroying them.

00:03:00.000 And I talked to him, and their board has decided to go ahead and allow the truth to come out, because it's too desperate, the situation the Second Amendment's in.

00:03:08.000 So gun owners are taking the gloves off, ladies and gentlemen.

00:03:13.000 They're taking the gloves off.

00:03:15.000 The truth is absolutely horrible.

00:03:22.000 Now, I want to be clear.

00:03:23.000 We're not saying NRA members are bad.

00:03:26.000 I'm a NRA member.

00:03:28.000 Most of my family are members or lifetime members.

00:03:34.000 I get the Rifleman Magazine.

00:03:36.000 Driving around in high school, you know, I had the NRA sticker on my truck.

00:03:42.000 The point is, if you can decide, what do you love more?

00:03:45.000 The NRA and the Republican Party or the Second Amendment?

00:03:49.000 You have to make a choice.

00:03:53.000 You have to decide.

00:03:54.000 Do I want to save the Second Amendment?

00:03:55.000 Do I want to stop losing ground every year?

00:03:59.000 Or do I want to turn this around?

00:04:02.000 The NRA authored the late 1960s Gun Control Act.

00:04:09.000 1968 Gun Control Act.

00:04:12.000 They authored the Brady Bill.

00:04:14.000 They've authored this new bill that they're supporting That will ban many veterans from owning guns and even police officers if you have any type of psychological designation from ADHD when you were 12 years old to post-traumatic stress disorder from one of the Iraq wars, Vietnam, it doesn't matter.

00:04:34.000 And it's time to call a spade a spade, a club a club, a diamond a diamond, a heart a heart.

00:04:42.000 It's time to be honest.

00:04:43.000 So that's coming up.

00:04:44.000 Then we got Professor Francis Boyle, top bioweapons expert.

00:04:48.000 Wrote some of the international treaties on it.

00:04:51.000 To come into the show and talk about the New World Order, the war on Iran, the rest of it. 0.87

00:04:56.000 Big broadcast lined up today.

00:04:58.000 Stay with us.

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00:07:59.000 Big Brother.

00:08:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:10.000 You want answers?

00:08:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:08:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 Well, it was a two-hour long debate on MSNBC.

00:08:30.000 with ten candidates.

00:08:32.000 Ron Paul was given the least amount of time, four and a half minutes.

00:08:38.000 We have his entire talk time and we'll be playing that later in the third hour.

00:08:45.000 Larry Pratt will be joining us in the second hour to discuss the history of gun control in this country.

00:08:52.000 All verifiable for those that actually We want to save the Second Amendment and admit the Judas Code behavior of the NRA.

00:09:03.000 Let's make it clear.

00:09:04.000 It's not that they compromise.

00:09:05.000 They are the authors of the gun control. 0.68

00:09:07.000 They are where it flows from.

00:09:10.000 And it'll take some deprogramming to wake conservatives up out there. 0.91

00:09:14.000 This is the case.

00:09:15.000 But that's coming up with Larry Pratt.

00:09:18.000 And for the last 30 minutes of the transmission today, Professor Francis Boyle, who authored our biological weapons treaties and a lot more, a scholar in the area of international law and human rights, Professor Boyle, is an amazing individual, internationally is an amazing individual, internationally recognized expert on U.S. constitutional law and, of course, international law.

00:09:44.000 He'll be breaking down the Iraq War and the torture and the war crimes and exactly what it means.

00:09:50.000 Remember, a week and a half ago, the New York Times reported, and the White House says that it's accurate, that Bush signed a secret executive order ordering the torture.

00:10:00.000 But then they sent people to prison who followed the orders to engage in that torture.

00:10:06.000 Just absolutely amazing.

00:10:08.000 So we'll talk to that international law scholar about that today.

00:10:11.000 In the meantime, I have this nice little stack of news here in front of me. - Man cited for burning Mexican flag.

00:10:34.000 Policeman threatened to arrest boy for toy gun.

00:10:40.000 Another headline, police arrest boy for toy gun.

00:10:44.000 U.S.

00:10:44.000 and Afghan officials meet on aerial Opium spraying and Navy veteran questions why six nuclear missiles were flown on combat aircraft, the staging area for Middle East.

00:11:01.000 This story's been big the last few months, but there's been some new wrinkles.

00:11:05.000 We'll go over that.

00:11:06.000 Court nixes suit claiming CIA torture.

00:11:09.000 Justices throw out German's challenge to allege abduction by U.S.

00:11:13.000 agents, AP.

00:11:18.000 Police launch drug sweeps in schools and are forcing samples from the children.

00:11:27.000 I mean, they're doing that now outside Denver on the side of the highway at random checkpoints.

00:11:31.000 Why not?

00:11:33.000 Police chiefs across the country are calling for putting cameras inside our homes.

00:11:37.000 I mean, you couldn't make this stuff up.

00:11:39.000 I keep saying that because it's just, it's all insane.

00:11:44.000 Prosecutor caught in sexting died by hanging himself in the shower.

00:11:48.000 Here's an interesting one out of the Minority Report or something.

00:11:56.000 Dragonfly or insect spy, scientist at work on robo-bugs.

00:12:02.000 Washington Post.

00:12:04.000 Vanessa Alacron saw them while working at the anti-war rally in Lafayette Square last month.

00:12:10.000 I heard someone say, oh my gosh, look at those.

00:12:13.000 The college senior from New York recalled, I looked up and I'm like, what is that?

00:12:18.000 They looked kind of like dragonflies.

00:12:20.000 They're little helicopters, but I mean, those are not insects.

00:12:24.000 Then it goes into the military with their little hover insect spies.

00:12:29.000 It says they're growing real dragonflies with the bioengineered that then grow in and around the sensors that are bioengineered into them.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, it's 2007, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:45.000 There's a lot of suppressed technology.

00:12:47.000 They're now going to be having Externalization of the hierarchy or what I call thrilling it in your face.

00:12:56.000 This is the Washington Post, Dragonfly, Spy Insects.

00:13:00.000 They've got a picture of one there.

00:13:03.000 You go to PrisonPlanet.com you can link over to the Washington Post and they have the photo there.

00:13:10.000 Oh man, all over the country I see Sometimes 20-30 articles a day where they are announcing, oh, you know those traffic cameras or those pedestrian cameras?

00:13:21.000 Oh, the feds put those in.

00:13:23.000 We're going to use those to spy on you.

00:13:24.000 And by the way, they're going to read your lips and listen to your audio and track everything with AI keyword computers.

00:13:31.000 Here's one.

00:13:32.000 Council locates surveillance cameras around city.

00:13:36.000 Why prison stocks look tempting.

00:13:39.000 That's the only real growth area in the economy is war and prisons.

00:13:43.000 And it goes into all of it.

00:13:44.000 Yeah, that's the new America.

00:13:49.000 Got a bunch of other interesting stories here.

00:13:54.000 I mentioned this Sunday, but now there have been new developments.

00:13:57.000 Nigerian polio outbreak from vaccine, AP, a polio outbreak in Nigeria was caused by the vaccine designed to stop it, international health officials say, leaving at least 69 children paralyzed.

00:14:10.000 And if you read World Health Organization and British psychological warfare documents that are public, they will generally give out a small number, when the number could be a thousand times that, And knowing that you will then psychologically have a internalized debate about the number instead of humanizing the children, and that you'll tend to average the number between the two numbers.

00:14:34.000 I would guess it's much higher, but 69 paralyzed.

00:14:38.000 It is a frightening paradox in a part of the world that already distrust Western vaccines, making it even tougher to stamp out the age-old disease.

00:14:45.000 The outbreak was caused by the live poliovirus that was used in vaccines given orally, the preferred method in developed countries because it's cheaper and doesn't require medical training or to dispense.

00:14:55.000 Now see, somebody reading that Wouldn't know that it has been illegal in the United States to give the oral vaccine since the 1970s, but it's still, quote, legal outside the U.S.

00:15:12.000 Why is that?

00:15:14.000 Most people have heard about SV40.

00:15:19.000 Simian virus 40.

00:15:22.000 There's actually hundreds of deadly cancer viruses, very virulent forms of cancer.

00:15:27.000 In the different vaccines they've tested, not just polio or not just the live virus.

00:15:34.000 And generally they of course bond into the DNA strands, they get into the tissues, and don't activate until your body has divided enough times, until your cells have replicated enough times, until your immune system gets broken down enough to where it stops fighting.

00:15:54.000 So when you're exposed to this stuff, your immune system boosts.

00:15:58.000 That's why allergies are so much worse globally.

00:16:02.000 People a hundred years ago were around coal furnaces and sewage all over the streets and mercury and lead and arsenic and they got toxic from it.

00:16:12.000 But they didn't get all of these allergies that we now see exploding and there's literally hundreds of studies and top scientists and medical doctors University showing that the genetically engineered food, the DNA fragments and toxins and poisons in the vaccines are stimulating a greater allergic response.

00:16:40.000 We know that's why the first time you get bit by a bee, stung by a bee, you don't get sick.

00:16:49.000 Or you don't swell up, but you get stung enough times you'll develop an allergy.

00:16:53.000 See, that's why it's exploding and growing all over the world.

00:16:57.000 It's a cocktail of reasons, but a big one is the vaccines.

00:17:01.000 Your body is at a heightened level and is trying to fight everything off, so it starts just attacking everything.

00:17:08.000 And then finally it just kind of wears out and gives up.

00:17:11.000 It accelerates the aging process of your T lymphocytes and other warrior blood cells and Well, we're going to die, folks.

00:17:23.000 A lot faster.

00:17:23.000 I'll put it to you that way.

00:17:25.000 And I don't want to hear the false information that we live on longer.

00:17:28.000 That is a complete lie.

00:17:32.000 The statistics are true, but they are presented in a lie.

00:17:38.000 Depending on which decade, and they did keep statistics in Europe, the U.S., Japan, you name it, going back 200, 300, 400, 500, 1000 years ago, Around 30%, some years it was worse, some years it was better, 30% of babies died within the first year.

00:17:59.000 It went over 40% by the age of 10.

00:18:05.000 Everybody knows children get sick a lot more, they haven't developed their immune systems yet, they get compromised, they die.

00:18:15.000 And they also haven't developed wills to live.

00:18:18.000 That's another big part of it.

00:18:19.000 The studies show.

00:18:22.000 And so, yes, if you've got 40% of people dying by the time they're 10 years old, 30% of that, or the lion's share of that, by the time they're 1, you ever gone to an old cemetery?

00:18:32.000 We've got an old family cemetery out in East Texas, and there's half of them in there were below the age of two.

00:18:38.000 A lot of them are a month old, six months old.

00:18:46.000 You ever been to an old cemetery?

00:18:47.000 Don't believe me?

00:18:48.000 Just pull off the road at an old cemetery.

00:18:51.000 A cemetery that's got 150, 160, 170 year old graves in it.

00:18:54.000 There's gonna be babies everywhere. 0.65

00:18:57.000 Okay?

00:19:00.000 They average that number in, and then say, oh, people only lived an average of 57 in the Revolutionary War times.

00:19:09.000 That's right.

00:19:10.000 But if you live past 10, People routinely lived until they were 85, 90, 105 years old.

00:19:19.000 There were old people all over the place.

00:19:21.000 If you lived, you lived.

00:19:25.000 Russia's got a life expectancy right now of what, 55 for men?

00:19:29.000 It's like 60 for women. 1.00

00:19:32.000 Ours is 74 for men.

00:19:35.000 What's 78 for women? 1.00

00:19:38.000 You see, but the babies don't die now.

00:19:41.000 All right, I'm going to get into a bunch of other news when we get back.

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00:25:46.000 Alright, coming up in the next segment, I'm going to play... Vicente Fox. 0.93

00:25:56.000 You know, a lot of times, a blind hog like myself...

00:26:01.000 We'll find a little acorn and think I found quite a meal in the Info War when a big old juicy granddaddy acorn was right beneath my snout as I rooted about on the forest floor.

00:26:13.000 We, of course, broke here with Dr. Corsi.

00:26:15.000 We appreciate him breaking in here.

00:26:17.000 And by breaking it, he pointed it out.

00:26:19.000 Vicente Fox on Larry King Live two nights ago saying we're going to create an Amero dollar, a European Union.

00:26:25.000 Now we have that in the documents, in the books, in the secret treaties that are now declassified.

00:26:29.000 The public will not believe us.

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00:26:32.000 They will not look at it.

00:26:33.000 They will not read.

00:26:34.000 They willfully will thump their chest and neocon about and hop around and giggle and snicker, as they've been trained to do as slaves. 0.72

00:26:43.000 But they cannot debate Vicente Fox saying And we can circulate the video clip that's up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:26:52.000 We can force people to look at it.

00:26:53.000 You can pull it up at lunch at work.

00:26:55.000 Don't do it on The Boss this time.

00:26:57.000 At lunch, say, hey, Walter or hey, Bill.

00:26:59.000 You know, you're saying there's no NAU, there's no North American Union.

00:27:02.000 Here's Vicente Fox on Larry King Live.

00:27:06.000 But he says it quick and they'll probably just giggle and snicker and bring up their favorite sports team.

00:27:12.000 But you can go watch this.

00:27:15.000 He said a lot more the same day, two days ago, Monday, on The Daily Show with Stewart.

00:27:28.000 And so, we're going to be playing that coming up in the next segment.

00:27:34.000 And Paul Watson's in another article.

00:27:36.000 You know, Paul, actually Aaron found it and sent it to Paul.

00:27:38.000 I never watched it until this morning.

00:27:40.000 And Paul, just as a footnote, in the article we wrote, Roland Ailey didn't even learn about it, said, uh, oh!

00:27:48.000 Look, he said the same thing on the Daily Show!

00:27:50.000 No, he didn't.

00:27:51.000 He said a lot more.

00:27:52.000 He said North American Union.

00:27:54.000 He came right out with it.

00:27:58.000 So, this is big.

00:27:59.000 This is a lot bigger than the Larry King Live statement.

00:28:03.000 And it's up to us to Get this out to people, because there is, I mean really, yesterday I was so angry and so mad, plus I've got horrible ragweed allergies right now.

00:28:13.000 And I'm not whining about it, I don't want you to, oh Alex, we're sorry, you're sick, it's just if you hear me pausing, or hear me stumbling around, or I start getting angry on air, it's because I literally feel like I had the flu since last Thursday, and I don't like this.

00:28:27.000 I may even leave town this weekend, just to get, literally just drive away from here, and get into some other allergy zone.

00:28:33.000 Because I can literally leave town when I have allergies and feel good a day later.

00:28:39.000 I don't know how much better East Texas will be though.

00:28:41.000 See allergies come on with just sneezing and runny nose.

00:28:44.000 So I'll go to East Texas and just have that with whatever horrible stuff they've got there.

00:28:48.000 And a week later I get the flu symptoms.

00:28:51.000 So I guess I can run from place to place to try to What happens is I put out a lot of energy on three hours of the show, and then I'm just a basket case after the show.

00:29:02.000 I'm literally just sitting there in my chair like I've been... And I don't like the medicines.

00:29:07.000 They don't do anything. 0.76

00:29:08.000 They just make you more wide awake when you feel like trash. 0.71

00:29:11.000 I'm already digressing.

00:29:12.000 And I've read all the studies and the medical reports.

00:29:14.000 I know what it is.

00:29:15.000 It's the toxins in the air.

00:29:16.000 It's the genetically modified foods.

00:29:18.000 It's the vaccines we took as children.

00:29:20.000 They all screw up our immune system, so it starts alerting.

00:29:23.000 That's what poison ivy is. 1.00

00:29:25.000 Poison ivy doesn't make you have the... make you have the whelps. 1.00

00:29:28.000 Your body reacts in an autoimmune response.

00:29:32.000 And I've just got inflammation of the brain.

00:29:34.000 And inflammation of the sinus.

00:29:37.000 My head all swells up like a... I'll come back with the Vicente Fox and a lot more.

00:29:45.000 Stay with me.

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00:32:07.000 He's in a dive!

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00:32:59.000 I don't have to tell you things are bad.

00:33:03.000 Everybody knows things are bad.

00:33:05.000 It's a depression.

00:33:07.000 Everybody's out of work, or scared of losing their job.

00:33:11.000 The dollar buys a nickel's worth.

00:33:13.000 Banks are going bust.

00:33:14.000 Shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter.

00:33:17.000 Punks are running wild in the street.

00:33:19.000 There's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do and there's no end to it.

00:33:23.000 We know.

00:33:24.000 The air is unfit to breathe.

00:33:25.000 Our food is unfit to eat.

00:33:28.000 We sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had 15 homicides and 63 violent crimes as if that's the way it's supposed to be.

00:33:36.000 We know things are bad, worse than bad. 0.59

00:33:39.000 They're crazy.

00:33:40.000 It's like everything everywhere is going crazy so we don't go out anymore.

00:33:43.000 We sit in the house and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller and all we say is, please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms.

00:33:50.000 Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radios and I won't say anything.

00:33:55.000 Just leave us alone. 0.76

00:33:56.000 Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

00:33:58.000 I want you to get mad!

00:33:59.000 I don't want you to protest.

00:34:02.000 I don't want you to riot.

00:34:03.000 I don't want you to write to your congressmen because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write.

00:34:06.000 I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. 1.00

00:34:10.000 All I know is that first, you've got to get mad!

00:34:13.000 You've got to say, I'm a human being!

00:34:16.000 My life has value!

00:34:18.000 I want you...

00:34:20.000 To get up now.

00:34:22.000 I want all of you to get up out of your chairs.

00:34:24.000 I want you to get up right now, and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell, I'm as tired as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!

00:34:37.000 I want you to get up right now.

00:34:39.000 Get up, go to your windows, open them, and stick your head out and yell, I'm a tad of hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore!

00:34:53.000 I'm the tad of hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore!

00:35:04.000 Welcome back to the front lines of the Info War. 0.92

00:35:09.000 Welcome back ladies and gentlemen.

00:35:18.000 We're committed to defending the Republic.

00:35:22.000 We are committed to resisting the tyrannical overlord of this global crime syndicate that is waging war on free humanity.

00:35:35.000 I salute every man, woman, and child of you out there who loves liberty, who has passion for freedom, Who hates bullies and despotism and fraud and lies.

00:35:54.000 I salute all of you that are standing in the gaps with me against the threat to our species.

00:36:03.000 I salute all of you who love God and love righteousness and who have faith that evil In the end, we'll be bound, we'll be cast down!

00:36:21.000 Alright, coming up, Vicente Fox.

00:36:25.000 Unbelievable revelation to the general public on The Daily Show.

00:36:30.000 Far more powerful than Larry King Live, but I want to start out with that Larry King Live clip first.

00:36:35.000 Before we do that, We haven't had her or Adam on in about a month.

00:36:38.000 Everybody's been so busy, and they've been so busy, they have never had more orders coming in.

00:36:43.000 They're the big national manufacturer, the American Berkey, the national distributor, the British Birkfeld.

00:36:48.000 That means you get distributor prices when you just buy one.

00:36:53.000 Literally.

00:36:54.000 You buy one, and a $209 unit is, you know, would be $320.

00:37:00.000 And they've got sports bottles that just make the water safe to drink, where you get five for $100.

00:37:06.000 One of these is like $35, $40 in a camping store, so you're talking about half off.

00:37:11.000 They have got so many deals, and the American Berkey is the highest standard.

00:37:15.000 We use it in the office.

00:37:17.000 We use it at home.

00:37:18.000 I give it to family as gifts every holiday season.

00:37:22.000 Now is the time.

00:37:24.000 To take control of your life.

00:37:25.000 Stop using cell phones.

00:37:27.000 At least have a hands-free.

00:37:28.000 And I'm talking to myself, too.

00:37:29.000 I constantly lose the hands-free.

00:37:31.000 I got trained years ago to not use a hands-free.

00:37:34.000 Brain tumors.

00:37:36.000 Huge news.

00:37:36.000 Documented.

00:37:37.000 No doubt.

00:37:39.000 Any denial of it is like the cigarette companies claiming it doesn't give you lung cancer.

00:37:43.000 I mean, they just testified last year it doesn't.

00:37:45.000 Total lie.

00:37:47.000 The water.

00:37:48.000 We are being poisoned by design.

00:37:50.000 And then there's all the runoff on top of it.

00:37:53.000 I mean, if you live up near the Arctic Circle, or up where the rivers start, or you live on the Great Divide, the water's probably safe to drink if you're getting it right off a mountaintop.

00:38:03.000 But still, there's stuff in the rain.

00:38:05.000 But you're drinking something down on the coast.

00:38:08.000 You're drinking something that's been coming off rivers that have gone through 10, 15 cities, 100 towns.

00:38:12.000 I mean, you're drinking thousands of things.

00:38:15.000 You ought to go to the EPA website, and you ought to read the thousands of things they allow in the water.

00:38:21.000 Every major city has high levels of Prozac, Ritalin, Mercury, Arsenic, Sodium and Stannous Fluoride in there by design.

00:38:31.000 A Nazi chemical weapon in Pulitzer Prize winning books on World War II using it in the camps.

00:38:37.000 You can't... I didn't believe that ten years ago when I first heard that.

00:38:40.000 I went and looked the books up and it was there.

00:38:42.000 I literally almost fell down.

00:38:44.000 I mean, we're under massive attack and we're going to have to admit it.

00:38:48.000 And let me tell you something.

00:38:51.000 Look, you can't go buy a $20 or $50 charcoal filter at the store.

00:38:56.000 That's going to cut out some dead bacteria. 1.00

00:38:57.000 Because remember, the chlorine just kills the bacteria and you're still drinking the dead ones.

00:39:01.000 So it's the equivalent of drinking rotten meat.

00:39:03.000 And there's a lot of studies on all the toxins that build up in there.

00:39:05.000 That's really bad for you.

00:39:07.000 That's one of the thousands of things.

00:39:09.000 But at least that's better than nothing.

00:39:11.000 But if you get a high quality filtration system, I mean, one that's comparable to these systems would cost thousands of dollars.

00:39:18.000 And then you gotta upkeep it.

00:39:20.000 This is what the missionaries go with.

00:39:22.000 This is what the military goes with.

00:39:25.000 But regardless, just get water filtration.

00:39:28.000 Stop using cell phones.

00:39:29.000 Stop taking vaccines.

00:39:31.000 I'm telling you, there's no doubt, it's bad.

00:39:33.000 I got mainstream scientific studies.

00:39:36.000 One of them was between, what, it said 14 universities?

00:39:40.000 Another study just came out off of four other studies?

00:39:43.000 Showing that it's causing massive increases in brain tumors right where you use the cell phone.

00:39:48.000 I mean, folks, this is not debatable.

00:39:51.000 This is a fact. 0.99

00:39:53.000 If you don't filter your water and put a shower filter on, because that's where a lot of this stuff comes in, you breathe it and it goes through your skin, you're nuts. 1.00

00:40:04.000 You're nuts. 0.99

00:40:06.000 Alright, Debbie, I know you're holding and I've got a lot of stuff to get to. 0.99

00:40:08.000 I appreciate you coming on.

00:40:09.000 But really, this stuff should sell itself.

00:40:12.000 And if they don't get it from you, they ought to get it somewhere else.

00:40:15.000 But all I know is I've vetted you guys.

00:40:17.000 You guys became sponsors because I bought filters from you in like 1998.

00:40:21.000 I mean, I get the sponsors that I use.

00:40:25.000 And I don't know what else to say.

00:40:28.000 They're insane if they don't call you.

00:40:30.000 Alex, I couldn't agree with you more and it's very nice to talk to you.

00:40:34.000 Thank you very much for having me.

00:40:36.000 Thanks for coming on.

00:40:37.000 Our lines are open and we're expecting lots of calls from your listeners.

00:40:42.000 Not only do they get really good deals on Berkey water filter systems and free gifts, but it also helps support your international shortwave airtime.

00:40:52.000 And so I just wanted to come on and just thank you for allowing us to help support your programming.

00:41:00.000 That's about it.

00:41:01.000 I'll look forward to hearing from your customers.

00:41:03.000 Well, now, also, my free gift.

00:41:06.000 I mean, you get a really nice sports bottle that makes water safe to drink 116 times out of swamp water, 630-something times out of tap water.

00:41:15.000 That just makes it safe.

00:41:17.000 It reduces.

00:41:17.000 It's great to give your children at school or to go to work or to the gym.

00:41:20.000 That's what we use them for.

00:41:22.000 That's different from the big purification systems.

00:41:25.000 Absolutely, it sure is.

00:41:26.000 It has the same type of filter in it, does just about the same kind of cleaning.

00:41:32.000 A lot of customers ask me if they take out fluoride, and no they do not.

00:41:36.000 The Berkey Sport bottles do not take out fluoride.

00:41:39.000 And also, for those listeners in California, they have started putting that fluoride in their water now.

00:41:45.000 And so we need to get those customers who have burkeys to call us and get the fluoride reduction filters to add to their systems.

00:41:54.000 Or if they don't have a system, they need to give us a call so we can get those systems into their homes.

00:41:59.000 Yeah, fluoride is such a tiny particle.

00:42:01.000 It just goes through everything.

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00:42:08.000 Debbie, God bless you. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:42:10.000 It was very nice talking to you yesterday.

00:42:12.000 Hey, it was great talking to you.

00:42:13.000 Say hi to your husband and family.

00:42:14.000 Thank you.

00:42:15.000 Bye-bye.

00:42:16.000 There goes Debbie up in Dallas. 0.93

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00:42:19.000 Or you can order all the exact same systems and we just fax in the orders every day at InfoWars.com.

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00:42:44.000 Tell us what free gift you want, we have them listed there.

00:42:47.000 And again, you're getting like a $320 unit at a store, at a camping supply place that they bought from these guys for $210.

00:42:56.000 You're getting a $270 unit for $270 that would be $400.

00:42:58.000 You're getting a $20 sports bottle that would be $35-$40 at a store.

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00:43:16.000 And again, I can't believe Monday we put a story out about Congressman Ron Paul here on the show Friday.

00:43:26.000 I said, how far could the dollar go down?

00:43:30.000 And I thought he'd say, well, another 30%.

00:43:31.000 He said, well, it could, in the next couple of years, it could go down 100%.

00:43:37.000 But if you look at Germany, and if you look at Argentina, and you look at other countries, about half the time when there's a currency crash, it will go down 100%, 99%, and then they scrap it.

00:43:52.000 So actually, the doctor's right.

00:43:55.000 We've got a good chance.

00:43:56.000 50-50, really.

00:43:59.000 If it continues to plunge, it'll go down to zero.

00:44:04.000 And I saw people on our message board and on the dig board with the story Monday, and then I looked at it again last night, going, I'm a liar.

00:44:12.000 The economy's great.

00:44:13.000 The dollar's doing good.

00:44:14.000 Ron Paul's a scaremonger.

00:44:16.000 I mean, what's wrong with you people?

00:44:19.000 It's lost 62% of its value.

00:44:22.000 It's unbelievable.

00:44:24.000 I mean, Every time I think about it, I get upset!

00:44:29.000 And they'll just say, hey, the stock market's at $14,000, pal.

00:44:34.000 Yeah, with a 60-plus percent devalued dollar versus the euro in seven years, you're going to have it at $14,000.

00:44:43.000 at 14 sow what is 62% - out of 14,000 I don't have a calculator in front of me.

00:44:54.000 My computer broke a few days ago in my office.

00:44:56.000 I've got to get another one in here.

00:44:57.000 It's getting repaired.

00:44:59.000 Do a calculator.

00:45:00.000 What is 62% out of 14,000?

00:45:00.000 Divide out.

00:45:01.000 John, you got a calculator there at the studios?

00:45:02.000 Yeah, what's 62% minus?

00:45:03.000 out of 14,000.

00:45:07.000 John, you got a calculator there at the studios?

00:45:09.000 Yeah, what 62% minus, you know, divided out of 14,000?

00:45:19.000 I guess that would be, that'd be the stock market at like 6,800?

00:45:28.000 $7,000?

00:45:30.000 No, that's not right.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, because you're taking 62% out.

00:45:38.000 I don't know.

00:45:41.000 I could pause and hand write it out here.

00:45:42.000 It doesn't matter.

00:45:44.000 We're all public school educated.

00:45:45.000 Pretty soon we won't even be able to talk.

00:45:47.000 I can't do it either, John.

00:45:52.000 We're talking about 6,000 plus percent.

00:45:55.000 I mean, that's what your stock market is at right now.

00:46:02.000 And so, we're in deep trouble.

00:46:07.000 And again, the deflating dollar, it's buying power being deflated, it's being inflated, And they go on the news and they say everywhere it's because the precious illegal aliens have been deported.

00:46:22.000 A. The illegal aliens have not been deported. 0.99

00:46:23.000 33,000 out of 30 million.

00:46:28.000 3 million illegals a year piling up.

00:46:30.000 That 30,000 isn't even a drop in the bucket.

00:46:34.000 It's a lie.

00:46:35.000 They don't care.

00:46:37.000 They never care.

00:46:38.000 And sure enough, on talk radio yesterday, I heard them all parroting, we gotta keep the illegals here, see the prices are going up. 0.98

00:46:45.000 I mean, the bankers do this to us, and as usual, they spin it, and the dumb public just buys it!

00:46:53.000 Alright, here's Fox on CNN, two nights ago, talking about the North American Union, talking about the Amero currency, here it is. 0.51

00:47:01.000 Do you fear that part of the legal immigration problem is terrorism?

00:47:07.000 Uh, no.

00:47:08.000 It's a totally different business.

00:47:08.000 Not at all.

00:47:10.000 Absolutely different.

00:47:11.000 You don't equate it to?

00:47:13.000 Absolutely not.

00:47:15.000 Email from Mrs. Gonzalez in Elizabeth, New Jersey.

00:47:18.000 Mr. Fox, I'd like to know how you feel about the possibility of having a Latin America united with one currency.

00:47:25.000 Long term, very long term.

00:47:27.000 What we proposed together, President Bush and myself, is ALCA, which is a trade union for all of the Americas.

00:47:35.000 And everything was running fluently until Hugo Chavez came.

00:47:40.000 And he decided to isolate himself.

00:47:43.000 He decided to combat the idea and destroy the idea.

00:47:47.000 And very unfortunately... You mean like the Eurodollar, you mean?

00:47:50.000 Well, that would be long, long term.

00:47:52.000 I think the process is to go first step into a trading agreement and then further on a new vision like we're trying to do with NAFTA.

00:48:03.000 Now let's go ahead and go to the next clip.

00:48:05.000 We'll go into break and come back and finish it up.

00:48:06.000 This is the Daily Show the same day Monday.

00:48:08.000 Here it is.

00:48:09.000 Ride all the way down to Guanajuato and looking for his American dream without a penny in his pocket.

00:48:16.000 He made his dream in Mexico.

00:48:18.000 So migration is a two-way street.

00:48:21.000 Can I tell you this?

00:48:23.000 Cincinnati has gone hugely downhill since then.

00:48:27.000 I can't even... I don't even want to talk about it.

00:48:30.000 If I were you, I'd saddle up and come back.

00:48:32.000 Help us!

00:48:33.000 Help us!

00:48:35.000 Do you feel that because of September 11th, we're overreacting to the border situation there?

00:48:43.000 Yeah, it's my impression that fear is guiding public opinion here.

00:48:48.000 And xenophobic...

00:48:51.000 10 of COVID are also filling the space because Congress is not deciding yet.

00:48:59.000 It's a hundred year old issue, immigration.

00:49:03.000 And no decision.

00:49:04.000 I think that we can come up with a very wise, very wisdom solution and reform to immigration because it's a win-win situation. 1.00

00:49:15.000 Everybody benefits from that.

00:49:16.000 So you don't want the fence.

00:49:17.000 What if we build the fence and have the nice part facing Mexico? 0.98

00:49:21.000 The pretty part.

00:49:23.000 Why did we build a fence and not let in products that come from the States to Mexico?

00:49:30.000 Worth over 200 billion US dollars.

00:49:33.000 Worth many, many jobs to this nation right here.

00:49:36.000 So you're saying it's your way to treat the globalization.

00:49:38.000 You're for NAFTA then.

00:49:40.000 Has NAFTA helped Mexico?

00:49:41.000 Absolutely, yes.

00:49:42.000 Seven largest trade balance.

00:49:44.000 Larger than all of Latin America together.

00:49:47.000 And yes, NAFTA has been good.

00:49:50.000 As a matter of fact, we should have a new vision.

00:49:52.000 Go further.

00:49:53.000 Integrating and working together to build a better future for both.

00:49:57.000 How high, if the standard of living in Mexico, because people still come over because they can get better jobs and things. 0.59

00:50:04.000 How long would it take?

00:50:04.000 How high would the standard have to go before you think the tide starts to settle and shifts?

00:50:11.000 We're at 8,000 right now, 8,000 US dollars per capita a year.

00:50:15.000 I think it should go all the way up to over 20.

00:50:19.000 And that happened with Spain, with the European Union.

00:50:22.000 This is total bull, all of it is total propaganda.

00:50:25.000 having access to those huge cohesive funds, they were able to overcome poverty.

00:50:31.000 And today Spain or Ireland or Greece or Portugal are very successful nations.

00:50:39.000 What you need is a little bit of solidarity, a little bit of human attitude.

00:50:45.000 This is total bull.

00:50:46.000 All of it is total propaganda.

00:50:48.000 Ireland refused to join the EU and slashed their taxes from 70% to 10%. 1.00

00:50:55.000 You are a congenital liar, Fox. 0.97

00:50:57.000 It's here after a year in production and traveling to distant lands. 0.98

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00:54:03.000 My guesstimation was correct. 0.99

00:54:05.000 I said, what, 6,700?

00:54:05.000 I don't know what to say about old lies of Vicente Fox.

00:54:14.000 My guesstimation was correct. 0.99

00:54:16.000 I said, what, 6,700?

00:54:18.000 That's what I calculated in my brain, and we did calculate it.

00:54:24.000 The stock market averaging down was at 14,000 right now.

00:54:29.000 It's that and some change.

00:54:33.000 Then we're talking about the stock market at 2,000 levels being at $6,720.

00:54:39.000 So with dollar value, the stock market is at $6,720.

00:54:41.000 So, with dollar value, the stock market is at $6,720.

00:54:48.000 And, you know, they talk about Google stock getting close to $700 a share of $6,720.

00:54:55.000 Okay, well that's really 300 and something dollars a share.

00:55:05.000 See, when I hit 700, 350.

00:55:05.000 I don't know how, I mean this is basic, basic, basic stuff.

00:55:13.000 And people are just now starting to hear a little bit of talk about currency.

00:55:17.000 But it's amazing.

00:55:25.000 It's absolutely amazing.

00:55:26.000 They'll probably pass some tariff on China of a half a percentage point that does nothing, and then totally plunge the economy, and then claim that did it. 0.56

00:55:33.000 I mean, that's how they do it.

00:55:34.000 Or, oh, it's the subprime mortgages they're causing it all.

00:55:37.000 Just as we predicted, they used some financial creation of their own that's a very small piece of this to blame it on it, and that's what they're blaming everything on right now.

00:55:45.000 No, the international banks issued all this credit.

00:55:47.000 They pumped the bubble up to unbelievable size, and then they cut off credit.

00:55:54.000 They're not buying the mortgages.

00:55:58.000 I mean, in a fiat system, you really could pump the economy up and help people.

00:56:01.000 But they're choosing not to do that.

00:56:03.000 It's all part of a consolidation phase.

00:56:05.000 I'm already getting off into other subjects.

00:56:07.000 It's just, Fox says that Mexico gives the U.S.

00:56:11.000 $200 billion.

00:56:12.000 Last time I saw our trade deficit with Mexico, it was $25 billion a year.

00:56:18.000 There's a deficit of $25 billion.

00:56:21.000 You can look that up.

00:56:22.000 It may have changed.

00:56:23.000 But we've always had a trade deficit with Mexico.

00:56:25.000 We've never had a trade surplus with Mexico.

00:56:28.000 We have a trade deficit with Mexico.

00:56:32.000 But he knows the public doesn't know that.

00:56:34.000 He just says, oh, we made $200 billion for America.

00:56:37.000 What are you talking about?

00:56:38.000 Over $200 billion a year of U.S.

00:56:41.000 money is sent to Mexico each year.

00:56:48.000 By Western Union and others, I think Western Union was $40 billion of it alone, the biggest piece of that.

00:56:53.000 I know it was over $200 billion.

00:56:54.000 I mean, we're talking about amounts of money that are just mind-blowing.

00:57:00.000 And all the drug dealing and the rest of it, and our government gave a billion dollars to help Mexico fight the drug trade.

00:57:09.000 Folks, I can take you to Mexico right now, to anywhere, and show you Mexican groups guarding marijuana fields.

00:57:14.000 I mean, I haven't even been looking for it.

00:57:16.000 And every time I'm in the interior, every time I've been down there, I've been down there probably in the interior probably 8, 9, 10 times, I don't know.

00:57:26.000 I think about 8, 9 times.

00:57:26.000 I've been over the border, just up here by Texas, more than that, but I like Mexico.

00:57:33.000 But I mean, you see them in their Jeeps with machine guns guarding the marijuana.

00:57:38.000 And then if you're on a tour bus, they pull you over and demand money from the bus driver.

00:57:41.000 I mean, it's a cesspit.

00:57:44.000 It's a cesspit of government evil. 0.99

00:57:47.000 And he just gets up there to the dumb American public and says, oh, we made you 200 billion dollars. 1.00

00:57:52.000 I mean, that is a complete lie. 1.00

00:57:56.000 Mexico is a giant parasite on the U.S. 1.00

00:57:59.000 Oh, no, we give you workers that power your economy. 1.00

00:58:01.000 Your workers, on average, take double in services what they pay in taxes.

00:58:08.000 More than half the people in the L.A.

00:58:10.000 jails are illegal aliens. 0.69

00:58:16.000 I mean, a giant third world country of 100 million people second off of us, run by narco-terrorists, is not a plus. 1.00

00:58:25.000 We're gonna come back, finish up with the Fox clip, where he admits, oh, what we need is a North American Union.

00:58:30.000 And yeah, we need our own... I mean, you know, here it is, and you can't get stupid Americans to listen! 1.00

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00:58:48.000 Big Brother.

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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:59:02.000 You want answers?

00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 The New World Order is imploding the dollar by design, their own policy reports going back over 30 years.

00:59:22.000 They said before they brought down The dollar.

00:59:29.000 They had to have their EU in place.

00:59:30.000 Once they did that, they could bring down the dollars.

00:59:32.000 We would accept the Amaro.

00:59:34.000 It's in all their documents.

00:59:35.000 Vicente Fox talked about it on Larry King Live Monday night.

00:59:39.000 But he said even more on John Stewart's show how he needed a European Union style North America.

00:59:46.000 He went on to say it's horrible that we have a fence and xenophobia.

00:59:50.000 Mexico has a fence with Guatemala.

00:59:52.000 They put you in a literal camp for six months and suck the money out of your family in Guatemala. 0.99

00:59:57.000 It's been on the news.

00:59:58.000 They catch you.

01:00:02.000 The truth is Mexico is one of the most xenophobic, one of the most nationalistic countries in the world.

01:00:13.000 And that's in basic textbooks on geopolitical makeup.

01:00:19.000 That's not my opinion.

01:00:23.000 And so to have Fox, I mean, it's just all lies.

01:00:26.000 It's all lies.

01:00:29.000 Let's go back to it.

01:00:31.000 People still come over because they can get better jobs and things.

01:00:34.000 How long would it take?

01:00:35.000 How high would the standard have to go before you think the tide starts to settle and shifts?

01:00:42.000 We're at 8,000 right now, 8,000 U.S.

01:00:44.000 dollars per capita a year.

01:00:46.000 I think it should go all the way up to over 20.

01:00:49.000 And that happened with Spain, with the European Union.

01:00:52.000 Where they, joining the Union and having access to those huge cohesive funds, they were able to overcome poverty.

01:01:02.000 And today, Spain or Ireland or Greece or Portugal are very successful nations.

01:01:09.000 What you need is a little bit of solidarity.

01:01:12.000 A little bit of a human attitude of working together as a team.

01:01:19.000 What would you like to see in North America?

01:01:21.000 So what's your team?

01:01:22.000 You'd go with Mexico? 0.95

01:01:23.000 Yes.

01:01:24.000 US?

01:01:25.000 Canada?

01:01:25.000 You want Canada in there?

01:01:30.000 Why doesn't South America do that? 0.71

01:01:31.000 Why doesn't South America have some sort of South American Union, like the EU, to consolidate their power?

01:01:36.000 There's different blocks.

01:01:37.000 There's one in Central America, all nations there join together.

01:01:41.000 There's one in the South, in Mercosur.

01:01:45.000 Are you a fan of, like, Evo Morales and Hugo Chavez and those guys?

01:01:49.000 We had Evo on the show.

01:01:50.000 Oh, they give you a headache.

01:01:51.000 He seemed very nice.

01:01:53.000 He just talked a little bit about redistributing.

01:01:55.000 Terrible.

01:01:56.000 Terrible.

01:01:58.000 Populism, demagoguery... Even Morales.

01:02:02.000 I know Chavez, but Morales as well.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, both of them in Correa and Ecuador.

01:02:07.000 He's a fair guy.

01:02:08.000 Now, he had an interpreter.

01:02:09.000 Do you think he speaks English?

01:02:10.000 No, he speaks his dialect.

01:02:14.000 Oh, it is?

01:02:14.000 Okay.

01:02:15.000 Because he's indigenous.

01:02:16.000 But it's a pity for Bolivians, for Venezuelans, not being taught to fish, but just giving the fish out.

01:02:27.000 They're not constructing a solid economy, or industry, or jobs.

01:02:32.000 It's just giving away the money.

01:02:34.000 And it goes on and on.

01:02:35.000 Later we have trouble with the rest.

01:02:36.000 It's not like you're a capitalist, Mr. Fox.

01:02:39.000 You're a monopoly man.

01:02:41.000 I mean, look at our government.

01:02:43.000 Crippled in size. 1.00

01:02:44.000 Total socialism. 1.00

01:02:45.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:02:47.000 I mean, I'm just sick of it! 1.00

01:02:49.000 It's all lies!

01:02:54.000 He claims that Ireland did good.

01:02:56.000 Ireland refused to join the European Union.

01:03:02.000 They refused to sign the Constitution.

01:03:05.000 They have a member in its parliament, and the EU said raise taxes and don't be a tax shelter.

01:03:10.000 A tax avoidance nation in Ireland said, no, we're going to cut our tax to 10% flat rate.

01:03:17.000 You bet all the investment went there.

01:03:19.000 You bet Ireland's doing good.

01:03:21.000 Nothing to do with the European Union.

01:03:24.000 Nothing.

01:03:26.000 Portugal?

01:03:27.000 Portugal is the poorest country in the Western world.

01:03:30.000 It's still as poor as it ever was.

01:03:32.000 Completely run by the New World Order. 0.94

01:03:34.000 I have never heard such baloney in my life.

01:03:37.000 And he says, Naftan Gatzman real good for the U.S.

01:03:40.000 too.

01:03:40.000 Oh yeah, look how great it's been.

01:03:42.000 But there he is admitting the North American Union.

01:03:46.000 There he is admitting the Amaro.

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01:07:03.000 Larry Pratt, the head honcho over at Gun Owners of America, the head honcho over at Gun Owners of America, is our guest.

01:07:24.000 It was founded back in the mid-1970s, 1975, to preserve and defend the Second Amendment rights of gun owners.

01:07:32.000 Now, I have read the federal court filings.

01:07:35.000 I have studied and even have the video of our beloved Charlton Heston on television in TV ads pushing for the 68 Gun Control Act.

01:07:48.000 I've interviewed Charlton Heston, it was very painful for me, and I don't think he meant bad at all, but this is just an example of what we're facing.

01:07:55.000 Pushing gun control.

01:07:58.000 And I've always urged the second largest gun organization, second amendment rights organization in the country, in the world for that matter, and the only real gun group of any real size, to go ahead and take on the NRA.

01:08:14.000 Because the NRA is our biggest problem.

01:08:18.000 Uh, they were a shooting club group.

01:08:21.000 And then when Gun Owners was formed, they started lobbying.

01:08:23.000 Suddenly, the NRA came in and started lobbying.

01:08:27.000 Before that, they had been a shooting club and a gun control group. 0.95

01:08:31.000 And quite frankly, if you look at the roots of gun control, it was, let's not have those blacks owning guns. 1.00

01:08:36.000 You study gun control history, and professors have written books about this. 0.93

01:08:40.000 Let the poor own guns. 1.00

01:08:43.000 Let's put a tax on them. 0.99

01:08:45.000 And that's how the first gun control came in, was to suppress blacks and sharecroppers and others. 0.97

01:08:51.000 Just like the first licenses, marriage licenses, were to keep blacks from marrying whites. 0.82

01:08:56.000 The government has no business in any of this.

01:08:58.000 And so instead of always, quote, compromising, and we never, a compromise is if they gave up some ground and we gave up some ground, we always get pushed another foot towards the cliff, and now we're at the cliff leaning back.

01:09:08.000 We can't be pushed anymore.

01:09:09.000 The NRA drove through the first big gun control act in the 60s.

01:09:17.000 Other so-called gun groups and other civic groups lobbied for it back in the 30s, including the NRA, with some of the first gun control legislation even before that.

01:09:26.000 They got the Brady Bill through.

01:09:28.000 They got the incident check through.

01:09:29.000 And now they're for the Veterans Disarmament Act and the Police Disarmament Act.

01:09:33.000 Hundreds of thousands of veterans and police who have any ADHD when they were 12 or collapsed in Baghdad or got any type of post-traumatic stress, Hundreds of designations.

01:09:45.000 Tens of millions of Americans no more owning guns.

01:09:49.000 And after I had Larry on last week I talked to him about 20 minutes after the show and I didn't realize how close they were to passing this and still are.

01:09:57.000 We are on the very verge I'm step-by-step really losing it.

01:10:01.000 And if they do this, and they can just say you've got a psychological designation, it's over, folks.

01:10:08.000 And the NRA is supporting it.

01:10:09.000 So, we have to get NRA board members to turn around.

01:10:14.000 And we have to get the members of the NRA, who are good people, to really assess the information we're about to cover.

01:10:21.000 And I'm saying stay with the NRA.

01:10:22.000 That way good people are in it and can try to keep it on the straight and narrow.

01:10:26.000 It's better than it has been in the past, I'll say that.

01:10:29.000 But we need to join Governors of America.

01:10:32.000 And all of you need to join.

01:10:34.000 It's $20 a year.

01:10:35.000 It's $500 for a lifetime membership.

01:10:37.000 They need to get a YouTube channel up.

01:10:39.000 They need to do these basic things.

01:10:42.000 They got 130, 150,000 members, I'm not sure.

01:10:44.000 We need to get you, the members, to get back to the source, get back to a real group, and unify.

01:10:51.000 And 150,000 of us, and hopefully get some more members in there, and get them back up to 300,000 level, like they used to be under Clinton.

01:10:57.000 People went to sleep in the And the globalists made their move, like they did on everything else.

01:11:03.000 The government's crippled in size, BATF's crippled in size.

01:11:05.000 I mean, it's a reign of terror against the Second Amendment.

01:11:08.000 In defense of the NRA, Bob Barr, board member last year, did say Bush has been more anti-gun than Clinton, just not in rhetoric.

01:11:15.000 Bush was for the assault weapons ban.

01:11:17.000 I was in a gun shop last year and they told me I was a liar.

01:11:20.000 Until the manager said, no, he's right.

01:11:23.000 Conservatives just can't admit that we have Judas Goats in our own midst.

01:11:28.000 So I'm going to shut up.

01:11:29.000 Larry Pratt is here, and I'm putting links up all over my websites.

01:11:35.000 I have really calculated and really studied that if we got a real Second Amendment group and gave it the support it needed, and that's gun owners, the group is there, that we could effectively lobby at the state level, being coordinated by gun owners, That if they had the funds and the support, that we could start reversing.

01:11:57.000 Because we've gone from what, 60% of people being against gun control to over 70% in major polls now.

01:12:03.000 Gun control is very unpopular.

01:12:06.000 Congress knows it's suicide, so they're doing it by stealth now.

01:12:09.000 So we're now going to Larry Pratt to go over the history of gun control and the NRA being really the backbone of gun control in the last century.

01:12:17.000 Larry, thanks for coming on with us.

01:12:19.000 Alex, it's always a pleasure to be with you and I really appreciate your very strong support.

01:12:24.000 And I think it's suitable since I'm going to have a lot to say about what the NRA staff has been doing over the decades that I emphasize something that you've already said that really that the beef is with the staff and it's not with the membership.

01:12:39.000 The membership in many cases just doesn't know what the staff has been doing because the staff has a very excellent public relations program I wish I could give a speech as good as a lot of their guys can give, but when you get down to what actually happens and has been happening from the very get-go, There's where the staff has been on their own track and forget about what the rank-and-file thought they were getting when they became a member of NRA.

01:13:09.000 The key to understanding this comes from an American rifleman quote of their own president, Franklin Orth, in March of 1968.

01:13:19.000 And he said something which I think is a true statement, and this is the true statement here.

01:13:24.000 The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871.

01:13:33.000 That is key to understanding what's been going on.

01:13:39.000 They have not had an adversarial relationship ever that we can determine, certainly not for very long, with the government.

01:13:48.000 Because they've been a handmaiden.

01:13:50.000 When our chairman, Senator H.L.

01:13:53.000 Richardson, founded Gun Owners of America, he'd already written confrontational politics.

01:14:01.000 And that was a large reason for founding Gun Owners of America.

01:14:04.000 Because we I saw that, whether you like it or not, politics is confrontational, especially when you're dealing with Marxists, which is really what most of the Democrats are.

01:14:15.000 And you notice that for mainline media, they tell the public, be nice, be limpid, be shabby, that's how you're effective.

01:14:21.000 That's the actual opposite.

01:14:23.000 When you're aggressive, when you're forceful, in law, in court, in business, that's when you win.

01:14:29.000 In fact, I'll jump ahead of a chronological history lesson that you and I would like to get to today and just Emphasize that point.

01:14:39.000 In 1993, I think it was?

01:14:41.000 No, no, no.

01:14:43.000 It was later than that.

01:14:44.000 I think it was in 2002.

01:14:47.000 There was an effort that Bob Smith, Senator from New Hampshire, made at the time to improve the situation vis-a-vis the FBI.

01:14:59.000 And the idea was that If a gun owner catches you, FBI, registering gun owners because they've got access to the Brady Instant Check information, which of course they have, but if you can prove it, you can take them to court.

01:15:14.000 Normally, you can't sue the government because we have this very, very dangerous and mistaken notion that we've let our employees get away with.

01:15:23.000 We, the people, are the sovereign, but they've ended up calling themselves the sovereign, and you can't sue them unless they, through their own condescension, give you a little window where you can sue.

01:15:35.000 And that's what Bob Smith was attempting to do in this gun registration deal.

01:15:40.000 At that time, The NRA, Larry Craig, who's on the board of the NRA, Senator from Idaho, came to Senator Smith as he was on the floor getting ready to make his motion for the amendment to allow these lawsuits, and they said, please, Senator Smith, don't do this.

01:15:59.000 NRA's got a headcount.

01:16:01.000 We only got 40 votes.

01:16:02.000 We're going to lose, and if we lose, Oh the thought it'll be so terrible will it'll set us back who knows how far and Smith called me from the floor and he said this is what's going on what do you think and I said senator I tell you the truth we don't have a headcount actually sir we don't I don't terribly much believe in them because I know this is a newsflash to you, Senator, but a lot of your colleagues lie.

01:16:30.000 And I said, look, I don't know whether you're going to win or lose this thing.

01:16:34.000 I rather suspect you're going to win it because when these rascals are forced to go on the record, as you're fixing to do, they often vote a lot differently from what they say.

01:16:42.000 They're giving you this 40 nonsense that we only got 40 votes because they're hoping that that'll discourage you from putting them on the record.

01:16:52.000 And I said, if you do this win, lose, or draw, you're our hero, and we're going to tell the world that you're our hero, which we did, by the way.

01:16:59.000 And he went, and he said, that's all I needed to know.

01:17:02.000 And he made the motion, and he carried it with 67 votes, which would be a veto-proof majority if ever that had been at issue.

01:17:12.000 In other words, on that one day alone, we found out on the record that there were 27 liars in the U.S.

01:17:17.000 Senate.

01:17:20.000 Exactly.

01:17:21.000 Well, we found the NRA was advising and lying.

01:17:24.000 And I want to go through the history of this, but this is when I really woke up.

01:17:27.000 I'd heard the NRA was trojan horse.

01:17:29.000 I'd heard it from all these, Bernadine Smith and others that have been tracking this for 50 years.

01:17:36.000 But in 1999, the legislative session was starting up in Texas, going into 2000.

01:17:43.000 And they were going to ban people under 18, Junior Olympics, the 4-H clubs, any type of shooting clubs, the YMCA shooting clubs.

01:17:52.000 It was also going to ban private sales at gun shows, a safe law.

01:17:57.000 And so I went down to the legislature, and I caught bribery on tape, and that made big news.

01:18:04.000 I mean, I just walked out, and there they were paying people off to go testify and lie.

01:18:08.000 Subtle.

01:18:09.000 And all this stuff was going on.

01:18:11.000 Made the papers and we were about to beat the bill and we had hundreds of people down there to testify.

01:18:17.000 And then the NRA came out in the Dallas Morning News and called us extremists and said they were neutral on the bill, but they were then attacking us and basically saying the bill was good.

01:18:25.000 I mean, this was hardcore gun control.

01:18:28.000 Absolutely.

01:18:28.000 And the NRA was attacking us, Larry!

01:18:31.000 Absolutely.

01:18:32.000 Well, we've been there and done that, so I know exactly what you were going through.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, so, I mean, folks, you know when you're in a fight and somebody walks right up to you and stabs you in the back, you know they're the enemy.

01:18:42.000 And I'm telling you, folks, the NRA would have had their way, those bills were going to pass.

01:18:47.000 We'll be right back with Larry Pratt on the other side to get into the history of this.

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01:23:01.000 Thank you.

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01:23:04.000 Larry, let's get into it.

01:23:05.000 Let's get into the history of how it started up, how the gun control began, and then where the NRA comes in, so people know the truth.

01:23:13.000 Well, let's repeat again, I think the kind of keystone to this whole thing was a statement by Franklin Orth at the time of the gun control debate in 1968.

01:23:25.000 1968, in the American Rifleman, the March issue of that year, quote, the National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871.

01:23:38.000 Now, quite apart from the unconstitutionality of that notion, the idea that there is any workable or enforceable gun control, you can confiscate guns and you can prepare a people for genocide.

01:23:51.000 So I guess in that sense, there have been workable and enforceable gun control laws.

01:23:56.000 But the idea of keeping guns out of criminals' hands, well, even the government has admitted that there's not a gun control law in the books.

01:24:05.000 All of them have studied, and that was the Center for Disease Control that I'm talking about.

01:24:10.000 Also, the National Academy of Sciences, which is a non-governmental organization, both have said There's not a gun control law in the world that's kept guns... All you can do is disarm victims.

01:24:21.000 That's all you can do because they're the only ones that will participate.

01:24:24.000 The criminal, by definition, is not going to keep that law either.

01:24:29.000 Golly, if he's going to murder somebody, do we really think that telling him that he can't have a gun is going to keep him from having one and getting one?

01:24:37.000 So, anyway, that's the mindset.

01:24:40.000 Now, why would they have such a mindset?

01:24:42.000 Well, after the war between the states, there were a bunch of union officers who had come to the conclusion that the draftees, many of whom were, by the way, very reluctantly drafted, and there were draft riots where the Government shot people in New York City and other places.

01:25:00.000 But we don't have to fight that war all over again at the moment.

01:25:03.000 But they didn't shoot very well.

01:25:05.000 They were recent immigrants, many of them, Irish especially, coming in right off the boat. 0.66

01:25:10.000 Way to get your citizenship, fight in the Union Army. 0.72

01:25:13.000 Well, they didn't shoot very well.

01:25:15.000 They didn't have much experience.

01:25:17.000 And the Southern boys were largely rural and they were quite good shots.

01:25:21.000 And so union officers went to the federales and got a charter to establish the National Rifle Association because they wanted to teach improved marksmanship so that next time around, those northern boys would be better shots.

01:25:38.000 And I think to the extent that the NRA has kept to the business of teaching people safety and shooting skills and things like that, they've actually accomplished that mission They've done very well, but the pity is... But from the beginning it was an auxiliary of government For the federal government.

01:25:57.000 It was a minion, as you said, a handmaiden of the feds.

01:26:00.000 Bingo.

01:26:01.000 And that was the mindset that spread over into politics.

01:26:05.000 And so, when there was a reaction against blacks having guns, even in the early part of the 20th century, Michigan, for instance, had a very famous case where a black doctor had moved into a white neighborhood in, I believe it was Detroit, And he met such resistance that there were mobs outside of his house and it was getting pretty nasty one day and a shot was fired.

01:26:33.000 We've never figured out who fired the shot from inside the house.

01:26:37.000 He had a number of relatives with him to help defend the place.

01:26:41.000 But one of the punks outside was killed.

01:26:44.000 And to the credit of the white jury, they acquitted the doctor, but the legislature fixed the problem, quote unquote.

01:26:50.000 They passed the concealed carry law for the state of Michigan as a direct response to the doctors having been able to defend himself.

01:27:01.000 And in the 20s and in the 30s, Concealed Carry Laws went on the books of every single state in the nation bar none.

01:27:09.000 Now interestingly, and the NRA at a minimum didn't oppose those, there's no record, I really haven't been able to research that well, but I do know that Vermont was the only state that ultimately escaped these laws because, believe it or not, their Supreme Court at the time found that it was unconstitutional and tossed the law off the books and it never has come back.

01:27:34.000 Vermont has been one of the now almost three states, most of Montana, all of Alaska, and all of Vermont are states where you can carry a gun without anybody's permission.

01:27:44.000 Vermont has remained that way, and it also remained a very low crime state.

01:27:48.000 But that was the history of the 20s and the 30s.

01:27:51.000 Gun control was clearly people control, and certain targeted people.

01:27:57.000 There was a judge in a Florida case that was quite candid, said, we know who these laws were intended to target, and went on to say exactly who it was.

01:28:07.000 It was the black population of the country.

01:28:09.000 Then, in 1934, There was the National Firearms Act before the Congress.

01:28:16.000 Stay there! 0.92

01:28:17.000 That's the key when our little friends the NRA show up on the scene.

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01:28:26.000 And we're going to write an article up out of the analysis of Larry Pratt today and the next few days for PrisonPlanet.com and TruthNews.us.

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01:33:29.000 And tell them about the NRA.

01:33:31.000 I mean, we have them absolute dead to rights.

01:33:32.000 We have them caught red-handed.

01:33:35.000 They're not even hiding it.

01:33:36.000 It's their history. 0.89

01:33:37.000 And they are, I've got to say it myself, a barrel of snakes. 0.70

01:33:40.000 At the top.

01:33:41.000 And I'm just so sick of good ol' boys.

01:33:43.000 I go in gun shops.

01:33:44.000 They're like, yeah, they're gonna ban guns.

01:33:46.000 Don't wing do.

01:33:47.000 Yeah, it's all over.

01:33:48.000 Eddie Eagle can't save us.

01:33:50.000 Yeah.

01:33:51.000 We keep losing.

01:33:52.000 You keep losing because you got enemies inside the gates.

01:33:56.000 You got traitors inside the gates.

01:33:58.000 I'm sorry.

01:33:59.000 Now, I studied and looked at other gun groups, and I'm telling you, Gunners of America, they're the people.

01:34:05.000 And I have seen this as a major chink in the New World Order's armor. 1.00

01:34:08.000 We can get Gun Owners of America members mobilized to be activists federally and at the state level.

01:34:14.000 We can get our listeners to become members of Gun Owners of America and tell other NRA members that they're the folks that need to be supported.

01:34:22.000 Then we can have a stronger, no-compromise lobby.

01:34:25.000 Listen, the NRA is up there pushing right now for gun control, and we're going to tell you about these horrible bills in a few minutes if we talk more about the history.

01:34:34.000 It's simple.

01:34:36.000 If you don't go to the breach in the wall, and if you don't admit that we've got wolves in sheep's clothing, enemies dressed up in our own uniforms, it's over.

01:34:47.000 It's over.

01:34:48.000 They've tripled the size of the BATF, they're not playing tiddlywinks, this is not a joke.

01:34:53.000 And they're brainwashing the children in the schools, they're trying to pass gun laws right now. 0.92

01:34:56.000 We're in a crisis, and Hillary is coming.

01:35:00.000 I hope Ron Paul gets in there.

01:35:01.000 We've got to hope for the best, plan for the worst.

01:35:04.000 Before we get into the history, let's just do it right now because I really want people to join Gun Owners.

01:35:09.000 You're the second largest group in the country.

01:35:10.000 You don't get the support you need.

01:35:12.000 If we could only reach every NRA member, we can only reach a fraction, but you the listeners can reach all of them if you try over time, then we could turn this around and win.

01:35:20.000 This is a place where we can win.

01:35:23.000 We're already having a lot of victories.

01:35:24.000 You guys are the ones that keep beating the gun bills.

01:35:27.000 The NRA is supporting them coast-to-coast while putting out lip service about how they're for the Second Amendment.

01:35:33.000 How do people call?

01:35:34.000 How do they join?

01:35:35.000 How do they get the newsletter?

01:35:36.000 How do they get the email alerts?

01:35:37.000 How do they help defend the Second Amendment in its darkest hour?

01:35:42.000 Well, we have a website they can go to and a toll-free number.

01:35:46.000 The website, pretty simple, gunowners.org, and we'll talk some more about what they can do on that website in a minute.

01:35:55.000 But the membership information is on that site.

01:35:59.000 Just scroll down and you'll see how to join.

01:36:01.000 Simple.

01:36:02.000 If you can't get to the computer, don't want to do that, you can call our toll-free number, which is 888-6-GUNS.

01:36:08.000 That's 888-6-GUNS.

01:36:13.000 886 and then G-U-N-S. 1.00

01:36:16.000 And either way, we would very much welcome the increased support because it means we're going to have more people able to and actually communicating with members of Congress.

01:36:28.000 Man, does that make the difference.

01:36:29.000 Well, Larry, I mean, I'm not fighting the New World Order to lose.

01:36:32.000 You're not fighting to lose.

01:36:34.000 I have been the last, really, decades studying the gun votes, looking at the politics, And I've known since 2000 the NRA were treacherous enemies of the Second Amendment, but I've talked to gun owner groups and they just can't believe it.

01:36:50.000 We now have to prove this to them or we're going to lose it.

01:36:54.000 And folks, we have a chance here to defend the absolute bedrock of this republic.

01:36:59.000 The Second Amendment, again, that's 888-886-GUNS, 888-886-GUNS, or gunowners.org.

01:37:08.000 There's links up on prisonplanet.com and infowars.com.

01:37:12.000 This is a major place that we can defend the republic.

01:37:17.000 You know, I'm here every day fighting for our borders, fighting for our sovereignty, trying to get you to take action, listeners, and you do.

01:37:23.000 I'm here every day trying to get you to defend the Second Amendment.

01:37:25.000 I'm here every day trying to defend our borders and our sovereignty and our dollar.

01:37:30.000 I mean, it's all imploding right now, and the key is the Second Amendment.

01:37:34.000 We're here trying to support Ron Paul.

01:37:36.000 I mean, we have a loser attitude that we can't win.

01:37:40.000 We have been winning.

01:37:42.000 The majority of Americans are now waking up, but they're not involved.

01:37:46.000 Larry, I mean, I've seen the polls.

01:37:48.000 What, 87% of anti-gun candidates have lost the last three rounds.

01:37:55.000 Polls show more Americans now get it, and that the anti-gunners are running out of steam, but they've got the politicians.

01:38:03.000 Can you speak to that?

01:38:04.000 Well, the poll that was most significant was conducted in November of 1994, and no less than Bill Clinton himself confessed that he had made a mistake to push the gun ban, that that had cost his party control of the Congress.

01:38:21.000 And Al Gore apparently didn't get that memo, and when he was in the presidential primary with Senator Bill Bradley, he and Bradley had this, uh, I'm more anti-gun than you are, Apparently, Gore won that contest in the primary, but that's what kept him from winning the general election.

01:38:40.000 And so, at that point, I think the Democrats, all of them, just about got the memo.

01:38:45.000 They're not doing anything that is advertised as gun control.

01:38:52.000 And so, yeah, the polls, especially the ones that politicians really know about, Those are, the results are in.

01:38:59.000 You stand for gun control, you're looking for a new job.

01:39:02.000 So instead they're doing it by stealth now and actually being more successful than the old frontal assault.

01:39:08.000 Give them a call, $20 a year, $500 for a lifetime membership.

01:39:13.000 I mean if you won't support Ron Paul now, if you won't support Governors of America now, if you won't support American Patrol, If you won't support the Minutemen, if you won't support the real groups that are out there actually fighting, then you deserve what you get.

01:39:28.000 And I'm telling all the good old boys right now who don't believe me, hey, you better look into the NRA.

01:39:34.000 You better find out this is true.

01:39:36.000 Because we're telling you the truth.

01:39:37.000 Believe me, I wish it wasn't the truth.

01:39:39.000 Well, let's take a look at what the NRA staff was doing, actually the president of the organization.

01:39:45.000 Yeah, let's go back to the 30s and the 60s and right up to now.

01:39:48.000 In a letter to the Congress in 1934, and we just happened to run across this the other day doing some legal research at the, well I don't know if it was at the archives or on some website, but got it anyway.

01:40:01.000 President of the NRA at that time was Carl T. Frederick, and Mr. Frederick wrote a letter, and in part I quote, It was about the machine gun, technically a tax.

01:40:13.000 $200 in that day would be probably, what, $20,000 today?

01:40:17.000 Yeah.

01:40:18.000 Something like that.

01:40:19.000 In other words, it was a prohibition for all but the richest of boys, or the ones, of course, who were exempt.

01:40:25.000 In the 30s, you could buy a three-bedroom house for $2,000 or $3,000.

01:40:30.000 I think so, and probably a pretty nice one at that.

01:40:32.000 I believe that's absolutely correct.

01:40:34.000 And also you would have had to put half down to get it, minimum.

01:40:37.000 You couldn't get more credit than that.

01:40:39.000 How times have changed.

01:40:41.000 Anyway, he's writing about the proposed machine gun ban, tax, whatever you want to call it.

01:40:48.000 And what I'm about to read is a description, actually, of a selective fire weapon, but he doesn't use that term.

01:40:56.000 The first criticism that I have, Mr. Frederick said, to make is on page 1, lines 8 to 10.

01:41:01.000 The definition of the term machine gun, I think, is wholly inadequate.

01:41:07.000 And unsatisfactory.

01:41:08.000 A gun which fires automatically or semi-automatically, less than 12 shots, is not under this definition a machine gun.

01:41:16.000 And yet in my opinion, it is in fact a machine gun and should be so classified.

01:41:21.000 Meaning, It's not enough to ban a machine gun with a magazine that holds more than 12.

01:41:26.000 He wants to have it banned all the way down.

01:41:29.000 So this is more hardcore than Hillary and Bill Clinton in 1993.

01:41:32.000 And this is back in 1934.

01:41:33.000 This has banned most types of rifles and handguns.

01:41:39.000 I honestly, well certainly if they were select or fire.

01:41:42.000 Now I think this was probably even to the left of the Roosevelt administration.

01:41:47.000 I mean liberals in those days weren't always, well they certainly weren't the hard hate America crowd that we got today.

01:41:55.000 I don't know where Roosevelt was on this, frankly, but the fact of the matter is that apparently he was being taken to task by the head of the NRA!

01:42:04.000 I mean, it just blows your mind!

01:42:06.000 It hurts!

01:42:08.000 Anyway, they got the bill through, bless their heart, and I haven't studied it.

01:42:13.000 I don't know what their role was in 1938 when dealers were forced to get a federal license in order to sell firearms.

01:42:21.000 I looked at it, they were behind that.

01:42:23.000 Well, you know, that would be so in keeping.

01:42:27.000 Now, in 68, actually prior to 68 gun control law passing, they had been working with Senator Dodd, and they had been supporting measures such as no handgun sales in a store to a customer if the customer is out of his home state, ending of direct mail sales of guns,

01:42:50.000 And I think they insisted before, in 68, they were kind of opposing or supporting the bill, but they sort of dropped off at one point.

01:43:01.000 They were happy with, I know one of the things they had supported was to get the sporting provision into the law so that the federal government would determine what kind of gun could be imported, namely only one that passed a sporting use test.

01:43:17.000 And they wanted to make it not about a right to keep bear arms for the defense of your home and hearth against criminals and government.

01:43:25.000 They wanted to make it all about hunting.

01:43:28.000 That is absolutely correct.

01:43:29.000 So we have them now destroying a criminal assault on the Second Amendment.

01:43:34.000 That is, well, certainly it was, I think, too, in 1934, but this is even more obvious in 1968.

01:43:43.000 And then it gets more and more obvious as time goes by.

01:43:48.000 The D.C.

01:43:49.000 Council passed a gun ban.

01:43:51.000 And I was on the scene at this time, and I remember going to the NRA and saying, look, you only need to have one house at that time, that's all it needed, either the Senate or the House, to veto what was just done by the D.C.

01:44:05.000 Council, because constitutionally the D.C.

01:44:07.000 City Council is under the United States Congress.

01:44:10.000 And the NRA's response, the new ILA director at that time, because they had just been formed, said, we're not going to waste any of our political capital on doing something like that.

01:44:20.000 We'll take care of it in court.

01:44:22.000 Well, it took them 30 years to get to court, and when they finally did, it was only in an effort to head off the very clever suit that now is on its way to the Supreme Court, formulated by Bob Levy and litigated by Alan Gura.

01:44:39.000 So let's recap this.

01:44:41.000 They're formed as an auxiliary of the federal government to create better marksmanship for a pool of people that could become soldiers under a draft at the end of the Civil War.

01:44:52.000 Okay, so we're talking like 1869, 1870.

01:44:52.000 Correct.

01:44:55.000 Then from that point on, they want to list even more guns, semi-automatic rifles and handguns, in the $200 tax and regulatory control of the BATF.

01:45:07.000 Then in 1968, they control the Gun Control Act.

01:45:11.000 Senator Dodd, who had been involved in the Nuremberg trials, got the Nazi gun control laws, the Nuremberg Well, Ben, let's see.

01:45:19.000 laws which are part of the Weimar Republic.

01:45:20.000 And he had those translated.

01:45:23.000 Only a few words changed.

01:45:24.000 We have the two, the bills.

01:45:25.000 It's almost identical except for a few words.

01:45:27.000 The German gun control bill.

01:45:29.000 So they support that.

01:45:31.000 I mean, these are wonderful people.

01:45:32.000 How dare you, Larry?

01:45:34.000 Talk bad about them.

01:45:35.000 Please continue.

01:45:35.000 Well, then, let's see.

01:45:37.000 We're running short of time.

01:45:39.000 Let's, in 19...

01:45:42.000 I know there's so much, but just keep telling people.

01:45:46.000 In 1991, they testified in favor of gun-free zones at schools.

01:45:52.000 And after Columbine, Wayne LaPierre repeated that position, and these are his words, he at the time was the executive director of their political lobbying army institute for legislative action he said this we believe in absolutely gun-free zero tolerance totally safe schools that means no guns in america schools period

01:46:15.000 And so that means the police have trouble having guns, it means that the principal can't have a gun, versus the day when my dad would walk in with a shotgun and put it in his locker and go hunting after school with his friends and no one even looked at him and there was never any school shootings.

01:46:28.000 We've got members that grew up in New York City and took their guns to school on the subway, their rifles, because they had target practice at their schools.

01:46:36.000 Typically it was junior ROTC.

01:46:39.000 And back then if somebody came into the school to shoot people, it did happen a couple times, they were blasted within seconds.

01:46:44.000 Absolutely.

01:46:44.000 Now, you know, this is a little off subject, but just the other day I saw an article from a Norwegian newspaper that up at the Arctic Circle, there's a little town, and the first day of school, the thing that is taught to the kids is how to use the rifles that they must bring to school.

01:47:00.000 Why?

01:47:01.000 Well, they might get jumped by a polar bear, and the kids are on their own!

01:47:05.000 Absolutely!

01:47:07.000 It's just a rather different point of view.

01:47:10.000 By the way, up in Alaskan places they've tried to make people not hunt polar bears.

01:47:13.000 Their numbers are exploding.

01:47:15.000 And so now they're attacking people again. 1.00

01:47:17.000 You have to shoot a few of them so they know not to do that. 1.00

01:47:20.000 That's a big animal. 1.00

01:47:21.000 One swat from his paw and you're finished.

01:47:24.000 Yeah, it's a lot bigger than a grizzly, a lot bigger than a kodiak.

01:47:27.000 And that's the point is those bears are smart folks. 0.99

01:47:29.000 You have to kill a couple or they will start coming and killing you. 0.97

01:47:33.000 Now, in the Brady Law, the bill was put forth... By the way, this is a good lesson in confrontational politics, that the other side understands so much better than, quote, our side. 0.98

01:47:45.000 The Brady Law had been promoted for 12 years before it was finally enacted on its 13th year.

01:47:54.000 Bad luck number for us, I guess.

01:47:56.000 And they just kept coming, and they weren't embarrassed that they kept losing because they kept using each defeat to generate more and more support because they were directing debate on their terms to it, and they weren't being effectively answered.

01:48:09.000 Instead of other counterattacks, if we launched counterattacks, we would build support and be able to reverse gun control.

01:48:15.000 Bingo.

01:48:16.000 Absolutely correct.

01:48:17.000 We have seen that from our own experience.

01:48:19.000 And that's what I'm doing here, folks!

01:48:20.000 I'm begging you to attack with Ron Paul, to attack with gun owners, to attack for our freedom back!

01:48:27.000 Okay, well, the measure could have been stopped in 93, but the NRA, like they're doing right now, told the Congress, no, we support this because now we've got the instant background check in it, and after five years it becomes totally our bill.

01:48:27.000 Go ahead.

01:48:47.000 Well, that's correct.

01:48:48.000 It did.

01:48:48.000 The waiting period went away, and bad as the waiting period was, that's nothing, Compared to the intervention in our privacy and in our exercise of a constitutional liberty that is represented.

01:49:01.000 But see how they rig this?

01:49:02.000 They go, oh don't worry, the NRA sponsored it.

01:49:05.000 The Brady Bill, oh we're getting a treat!

01:49:08.000 So instead of a five day waiting period, you get instant federal registration!

01:49:13.000 And you have to prove your innocence, and so if some cop shop somewhere put in a bunch of parking tickets the way they did in Texas, you've got to prove to the government that you're innocent of that, that you're not facing a disqualifying... And now they're going to add not just a restraining order because you're in a divorce, which is standard.

01:49:31.000 Now they're going to add ADHD, post-traumatic stress.

01:49:35.000 Remember all the cops lost their jobs last time in 2000.

01:49:37.000 Folks, it's going to happen again.

01:49:40.000 And the NRA, our little friend, is the one doing it.

01:49:44.000 Our dear, sweet Judas Iscariot.

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01:54:50.000 Larry, we've got a few minutes in this segment.

01:54:51.000 I'm going to hold you over to the next.

01:54:53.000 I appreciate that.

01:54:54.000 Again, the Director of Gun Owners of America.

01:54:56.000 Run through the Brady Bill and what the Judas Iscariot, Judas Goat NRA did there.

01:55:03.000 Well, primarily it all happened in 93.

01:55:05.000 They succeeded in attaching the instant background check to what had been the traditional, for the 12 years of its previous history, the traditional waiting period that would be required at the national level.

01:55:20.000 And they, well, Tonya Metaxas, who had been their director of the Institute for Legislative Action at that time, said, I think this agreement was a victory for those who see flaws in the current bill.

01:55:31.000 This is a much different Brady Bill.

01:55:32.000 This bill sunsets into what we've been supporting for several years, the instant check.

01:55:37.000 If you look at it in the long range, it's our bill in five years!

01:55:43.000 And so they didn't try to block, which then federalized everything and brought federal control and databases into police departments that they're now using for other police state reasons.

01:55:53.000 Now they're saying they're going to bar you with misdemeanors.

01:55:55.000 Now they're talking about barring you if you have any type of quote, mental illness.

01:55:58.000 They're handing those out like dum-dums after you get your hair cut. 0.99

01:56:02.000 I mean, this is bad.

01:56:03.000 It is a very, very serious situation.

01:56:06.000 All it will take in the proposed Schumer-McCarthy bill is for a psychiatrist to render a diagnosis that says that there's any chance, really any chance, that you might be a danger to self or others.

01:56:22.000 So if they want to, they've apparently got the opinion that everybody with PTSD is such a danger.

01:56:29.000 Well that's a crock because we have the statistics on that population now ever since Vietnam.

01:56:36.000 A whole bunch of those folks, and in fact they have the same, they don't have any worse crime record than anybody else.

01:56:43.000 And Larry, am I disagreeing with you?

01:56:44.000 That's a good point, but a lot of doctors say that's all quackery, it doesn't even exist to begin with.

01:56:51.000 I mean, that's why we've been saying if somebody should be barred from guns, take them to court and prove they've committed a crime.

01:57:00.000 Take him to court.

01:57:01.000 Don't just let somebody give an opinion.

01:57:02.000 It's unrebutted.

01:57:04.000 No challenge to it.

01:57:06.000 And don't use the excuse of this shooter up in Virginia Tech in Blacksburg because that was a gun ban zone. 0.98

01:57:12.000 I mean, let me tell you, when I was in college, I didn't live on a college and I wouldn't have had because I couldn't have a gun, but somebody shooting somebody in my apartment complex, I'm going to kill them. 0.63

01:57:22.000 And that's how it works down here in Texas.

01:57:24.000 We don't have too much of this stuff.

01:57:26.000 Uh, it's unbelievable.

01:57:27.000 Stay there, Larry Pratt.

01:57:28.000 We'll come back.

01:57:29.000 Talk about the new gun control bills they're launching. 0.99

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01:58:25.000 Donald's segment with Larry Pratt and it has blasted past us.

01:58:29.000 The NRA again is supporting draconian legislation.

01:58:33.000 The average gun owner is neutralized, thinking that they are their friends when they are the fathers of gun control, victim disarmament in this country.

01:58:40.000 Again, which people believe is the exact opposite of reality.

01:58:43.000 Larry Pratt, Head of Gunners of America, who we're begging people to join and help, or at least get their free email alerts and lobby and call yourself and help.

01:58:52.000 Tell folks about these horrible new attacks on the Second Amendment we face.

01:58:57.000 Well, the Veterans Disarmament Bill is our rename of the improvement on the National Criminal Information Center system.

01:59:09.000 And it does a lot more than just hit veterans, but the reason we picked on that was Because they are already being abused in the system.

01:59:17.000 They don't await passage of this law to be further included.

01:59:22.000 Although more veterans will get thrown into it.

01:59:24.000 That's right.

01:59:25.000 Clinton dumped tens of thousands of vets' names. 0.78

01:59:28.000 You had crooked toenails into it.

01:59:31.000 Exactly right.

01:59:32.000 From everything we can tell, it was enough to have a PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder diagnosis, and you were toast.

01:59:40.000 And these are people that have had careers, raised families, have concealed carry permits, which means the government couldn't find anything on them.

01:59:48.000 They were able to prove themselves not guilty, if you will.

01:59:52.000 And now we're going to reward them for having put their lives on the line and say, well, you can't have a gun anymore.

02:00:00.000 But there's more cops who've got ADHD or anything or it's over for them.

02:00:00.000 It's just crazy.

02:00:04.000 Well, cops get PTSD many times.

02:00:07.000 Usually people that have been in a combat situation, be it in the military or a police, frequently experience flashbacks and different kinds of Well, they deal with it and they get over it.

02:00:20.000 I know people in my church that have suffered from PTSD and they're just great people and they've never hurt anybody that didn't need hurting anyone.

02:00:31.000 They were in the military.

02:00:32.000 But, you know, it's not the kind of thing that warrants even talking about them being put into jeopardy.

02:00:40.000 Instead of talking about more gun control, We ought to be talking about getting rid of the victim zones that have been created by the gun-free school zones. 0.56

02:00:50.000 That's the non-specific problem.

02:00:51.000 Larry, where is this evil bill?

02:00:53.000 You were telling me last week it was very close to passage.

02:00:55.000 It whipped through the House, it almost whipped through the Senate, and happily, Senator Tom Coburn jumped into the gap, and he has set up a series of parliamentary stratagems Well, Larry, I appreciate all your time.

02:01:15.000 I want to get you back up to do more of the history of the treacherous, treasonous NRA.

02:01:20.000 I want to get you back up to educate, but also talk about strategies to craft bills that will reverse gun control and put them on the defensive.

02:01:28.000 Gunowners.org.

02:01:30.000 Go there, sign up for the free email legislative alerts.

02:01:33.000 The NRA will not warn you.

02:01:35.000 They will tell you gun control is good. 0.89

02:01:37.000 They'll tell you they're fighting gun control as they support victim disarmament and enslavement. 0.74

02:01:41.000 If the Second Amendment falls, it all falls.

02:01:43.000 GunOwners.org.

02:01:45.000 And for heaven's sakes, they need money to start a YouTube channel and a weekly TV report and some other things.

02:01:51.000 Become a member.

02:01:52.000 I mean, go get a $20 a year membership or get a lifetime membership and get in that number again, Larry.

02:01:58.000 The phone number is 888-886-GUNS.

02:02:01.000 That's 888-886, and then G-U-N-S, or just go to gunowners.org. Absolutely so. 888-886-GUNS.

02:02:10.000 8886guns.org.

02:02:13.000 And we've all got this beaten down attitude like we can't win.

02:02:17.000 That's because we have a Trojan horse, the NRA.

02:02:20.000 And I'm going to be writing an article up with Paul Watson and Steve Watson in the next week or so, detailing this whole interview with documents and quotes and links.

02:02:28.000 And I hope everybody gets it out to folks, because it's time to admit the problem.

02:02:32.000 It's the NRA, not the members, the leadership.

02:02:34.000 Larry Pratt, we salute you for your defense of this country.

02:02:37.000 Oh, thank you very much for having me on, Alex.

02:02:40.000 God bless you, sir, for your great research.

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02:05:50.000 All right, I promised to play some excerpts of Ron Paul in the debate last night.

02:05:59.000 He was given, when we've done this repeatedly, he was given the shortest amount of time of any of the candidates.

02:06:03.000 They let Mitt Romney and others go on for, they let Fred Thompson go on for 15 minutes.

02:06:08.000 Ron Paul got four and a half minutes.

02:06:11.000 So, here it is, ladies and gentlemen, Congressman Ron Paul.

02:06:15.000 Then we're going to get into some of the economic news that has been Coming out in the last few days.

02:06:25.000 The dollar continues its slide, and there's discussion by central bank heads of it going down another 15% by next year.

02:06:32.000 I mean, this is pulling your hair out crazy, and we still can't get the general public to understand what this means.

02:06:38.000 So, I'm going to get into that, and then we've got a top-level expert on international law and torture coming on the broadcast as well, Francis Boyle.

02:06:48.000 So, stay with us.

02:06:50.000 Here he is, Ron Paul, last night.

02:06:52.000 On Middle East oil?

02:06:55.000 Probably not, but that should not be a reason.

02:06:58.000 That's an old theory.

02:07:00.000 It's mercantilistic.

02:07:01.000 It's neo-colonialism that you have to maintain your supply routes and your natural resources.

02:07:07.000 But I think there's still a lot of those kind of people around, and they believe, you know, we were told it was about oil and jobs when it first started in 1990, and this is just a continuation of that war.

02:07:18.000 Indeed, this war is a mistake.

02:07:20.000 It was a mistake to go in.

02:07:22.000 It's very costly, and it has a lot of economic ramifications.

02:07:26.000 We're going broke.

02:07:28.000 We have this huge deficit.

02:07:29.000 We're spending nearly a trillion dollars with maintaining our empire overseas, and that's a cost.

02:07:36.000 Right now, we own foreigners $2.7 trillion.

02:07:40.000 No wonder they have money to come back in here and buy stuff up, and then we object.

02:07:45.000 But that has to do with our monetary system as well as our foreign policy.

02:07:48.000 So if we want prosperity, we have to change our foreign policy.

02:07:51.000 We have to live within our means, but we can't maintain a reserve currency where all our greatest exports today are paper dollars.

02:07:59.000 We create money out of thin air, and they still accept it as if it was backed by gold.

02:08:04.000 And that is the reason all this money goes overseas, and at the same time we finance all this military activity overseas, it's bankrupting this country.

02:08:13.000 And not only that, it's a threat to our personal liberties here, and it's going to be a threat to our economy, because we are beginning to live beneath our means.

02:08:20.000 And that is a natural consequence of what happens when you live beyond your means.

02:08:25.000 So we must Absolutely.

02:08:27.000 change our policy both overseas and domestically.

02:08:30.000 Do you believe that Senator Brownback that we would attack strategic targets in Iran nuclear facilities?

02:08:35.000 Absolutely this idea of going and talking to attorneys totally baffles me.

02:08:41.000 Why don't we just open up the constitution and read it You're not allowed to go to war without a declaration of war.

02:08:48.000 Now, as far as fleeting enemies go, yes, if there's an imminent attack on us, we've never had that happen in 220 years.

02:08:55.000 The thought that the Iranians could pose an imminent attack on the United States is preposterous.

02:09:02.000 There's no way.

02:09:05.000 This is just war propaganda.

02:09:07.000 Continuing war propaganda.

02:09:09.000 Preparing this nation to go to war and spread this war.

02:09:12.000 Not only in Iraq, but in Tehran.

02:09:14.000 Unconstitutionally.

02:09:16.000 It is a road to disaster for us as a nation.

02:09:19.000 It's a road to our financial disaster if we don't read the Constitution once in a while.

02:09:23.000 Around the horn, Congressman.

02:09:24.000 And moral values.

02:09:25.000 But polls also show that voters look, now at least, to the Democrats to handle the economy.

02:09:30.000 How are you going to win back their confidence in order?

02:09:33.000 Congressman Paul.

02:09:34.000 Well, first we have to have a sound economy and we don't.

02:09:36.000 We're overtaxed.

02:09:38.000 We're overregulated.

02:09:39.000 We work with a currency that is non-functional.

02:09:42.000 And our prosperity is slipping.

02:09:46.000 And we are overextended overseas.

02:09:48.000 You can't have a prosperous economy at home when you're spending all the money overseas.

02:09:52.000 You can't even have a strong national defense if you're spending all this money overseas in wars that we're not winning.

02:09:57.000 So if we want a prosperous economy here, we have to change these policies and we can't be bailing out farmers and subsidizing ethanol.

02:10:07.000 This is just the wrong way to go.

02:10:09.000 The taxpayers pay for the subsidies and then they pay for higher prices when they buy the gasoline or buy the food.

02:10:15.000 It never works.

02:10:16.000 Governor?

02:10:18.000 The right to unionize should be a basic right of any person.

02:10:22.000 You should be able to organize.

02:10:23.000 You should have no privileges, no special benefits legislated to benefit the unions, but you should never deny any working group to organize and negotiate for the best set of standards of working conditions.

02:10:37.000 Governor?

02:10:38.000 I'm asked to support the nominee of the Republican Party next year.

02:10:43.000 Not right now, I don't.

02:10:44.000 Not unless they're willing to end the war and bring our troops home. 0.94

02:10:48.000 And not unless they're willing to look at the excessive spending.

02:10:51.000 No, I'm not going to support them if they continue down the path which has taken our party down the tubes.

02:10:58.000 I mean, we've lost credibility because of all our spending, because we have violated the civil liberties of all the American people, and we have adopted the Democrats' foreign policy.

02:11:08.000 Why don't we run on George Bush's foreign policy of a humble foreign policy and no nation building, and don't police the world?

02:11:15.000 Then I'll support that.

02:11:17.000 You can watch the full clip up on presentplanet.com, we've got links to it, of the excerpts, but the bigger issue here Is that USA Today did a national poll of who Republicans hate the most, and guess who it is?

02:11:35.000 It's Ron Paul.

02:11:38.000 Ron Paul.

02:11:38.000 They hate Ron Paul.

02:11:40.000 You see, party hacks.

02:11:41.000 Republican Party members.

02:11:45.000 They love gun control.

02:11:46.000 They love open borders.

02:11:47.000 They love tripling the size of the government and the BATF.

02:11:51.000 They love the New World Order. 0.65

02:11:53.000 I mean, you go to local Republican meetings, It's these fake party hacks with the big hair and the makeup and strutting around in suits and they'll snicker and giggle and you'll find out they're all Democratic Party operatives.

02:12:06.000 It's a big joke how they've destroyed this country.

02:12:10.000 And they snicker and they laugh and they grovel whenever Republicans show up.

02:12:15.000 I've been to Ron Paul meetings too.

02:12:17.000 They're even trying to infiltrate that. 1.00

02:12:19.000 And they're just these fake little pathetic posers. 1.00

02:12:23.000 And they're everywhere. 0.99

02:12:25.000 All right, shifted gears, I want to spend a few minutes on the economy.

02:12:29.000 And Ted Anderson has been watching this for 20 plus years.

02:12:35.000 He's been a gold and metals trader for 20 plus years.

02:12:40.000 He's had, what, minus resources for more than 10 years.

02:12:44.000 And I thought I'd get Ted on here to give his view on this.

02:12:46.000 But it's not, the whole world's talking like Ted now.

02:12:49.000 I mean, it's not just Ron Paul and Ted and others.

02:12:53.000 They're talking about next year, the dollar even going down more, and it's still sliding right now, Ted.

02:12:57.000 Where is all this going?

02:12:59.000 Well, you know, Alex, when you asked me to come up, I just thought I'd go into Google and type in the following dollar.

02:13:07.000 And story after story, I mean, BBC has a big one out here that's talking about the year 2006.

02:13:14.000 The trade deficit expanded past 800 billion dollars, 7% higher than it was before, faster than the U.S.

02:13:22.000 economy has grown.

02:13:24.000 The deficit is going out of handle because of this war that we're in in Iraq.

02:13:28.000 It's just killing the dollar.

02:13:30.000 I mean literally killing it.

02:13:31.000 Everybody's seeing that happening right now.

02:13:33.000 Alan Greenspan is out there spouting off again.

02:13:35.000 Reuters has a story on him, the credit crunch.

02:13:40.000 Is going to take a toll on the economy, is the headline.

02:13:42.000 I mean, this is about... Now notice, notice, they're all piling on saying bad things about the economy, trying to drive it down so they can consolidate.

02:13:50.000 Well, that's exactly what's going on.

02:13:52.000 It's a push for the for the Amaro.

02:13:55.000 If we've now lost the purchasing power, our dollar became less valuable than the Canadian.

02:14:01.000 I mean, if it drops below the Mexican peso, then we're going to think it's a good idea to join forces with these guys.

02:14:09.000 Yeah, yuppies don't even know what that means, though.

02:14:11.000 They just know how to act cool.

02:14:12.000 Ted, I mean, we are in a red-level crisis here, and there are ways.

02:14:18.000 People could have listened in 2000 and got gold at 320 an ounce.

02:14:21.000 You've got gold again at the price a couple weeks ago.

02:14:25.000 You've got precious coins with collector value.

02:14:29.000 At the price I'm hearing other people sell bullion.

02:14:33.000 These are gorgeous coins.

02:14:34.000 You've got British quarter-ounce sovereigns.

02:14:37.000 And you've got something special.

02:14:38.000 You did get a bunch of silver dollars in.

02:14:42.000 I just got some from you Friday.

02:14:44.000 Folks, silver has not made the big move versus the drop of the dollar yet.

02:14:49.000 It will.

02:14:50.000 You can be assured of that.

02:14:51.000 So you can still get a steal on silver.

02:14:54.000 Ted, tell them about those deals.

02:14:55.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:56.000 Well, let's talk about the silver dollars first.

02:14:57.000 First of all, the above ground silver supply is just about Exempt or gone because the silver mines had to close down when silver prices were low.

02:15:06.000 They don't have them all up and operational yet to replenish the supply and it's an industrial metal and an economic metal.

02:15:12.000 So obviously, I mean here in the United States people have been using silver dollars as money going all the way back to the 1700s.

02:15:18.000 It's a very good thing to have in your portfolio and people recognize them.

02:15:23.000 They are trading for $360 per roll of 20.

02:15:26.000 The good reason for those two Alex's is that You don't have to be a rich man to own these things.

02:15:32.000 They're about 18 bucks a piece.

02:15:34.000 People are paying that down at Baker Square for a dinner.

02:15:39.000 You simply better start preparing yourself.

02:15:41.000 One of the ways to do it is that.

02:15:43.000 That's a good way to get involved with a small amount of money.

02:15:46.000 Even if you want to do a whole bunch of them, that's a good idea.

02:15:48.000 The other thing we're talking about is the British Sovereign coin.

02:15:51.000 It's a quarter ounce gold coin.

02:15:52.000 You just can't go wrong with it.

02:15:54.000 It's $206.

02:15:55.000 It's a nationally recognized coin.

02:15:57.000 It's recognized around the entire planet.

02:15:59.000 If you have this coin in your hand, and I can drop you anywhere in the world, that coin will buy you the things that you need to have any time in the future.

02:16:08.000 You need to have it.

02:16:08.000 Yeah, folks, gold isn't going up.

02:16:11.000 The dollar's going down.

02:16:13.000 Oil isn't going up.

02:16:14.000 The dollar is going down.

02:16:16.000 It isn't that they're deporting the illegals.

02:16:18.000 They haven't.

02:16:19.000 I mean, can you believe they're on the news saying food is up because the illegals aren't here? 0.99

02:16:23.000 I mean, that is ridiculous.

02:16:24.000 Folks, the actual government numbers admit it is the plunging dollar. 0.89

02:16:28.000 But that's how they spin everything.

02:16:31.000 They create the crisis and offer a fake solution.

02:16:33.000 30 million illegals isn't enough to pick the strawberries. 0.94

02:16:36.000 You can call Ted, call his brokers, and you can get a great deal on gold.

02:16:42.000 They have this in hand.

02:16:43.000 A lot of places are sold out right now.

02:16:45.000 Give them the number, Ted.

02:16:47.000 Yeah, it's 1-800-686-2237.

02:16:49.000 What you're saying is right, Alex.

02:16:51.000 It's getting very difficult to hold supply right now.

02:16:54.000 800-686-2237. 1-800-686-2237. 1-800-686-2237.

02:17:02.000 Now tell them Alex Jones sent you.

02:17:03.000 They've got a lot of other coins that cost more and stuff you can, you know, a coin of this, a coin of that, whatever.

02:17:09.000 But they've got these in bulk, these silver dollars in rolls, great deal, 100-and-something years old.

02:17:14.000 They've got these British sovereigns.

02:17:16.000 They've got collector value on them when they're near melt.

02:17:19.000 You can't beat that.

02:17:20.000 800-686-2237.

02:17:22.000 Or go to prisonplanet.com, and we've got links to Ted's website right there where you can find similar deals.

02:17:29.000 Just tell them Alex Jones sent you 800-686-2237.

02:17:32.000 Thank you for coming on, Ted.

02:17:34.000 We're going to come back and talk about some other really important issues on the other side.

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02:21:54.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

02:21:57.000 I still hear establishment worshippers snickering and snorting about gold.

02:22:06.000 So funny to them.

02:22:07.000 And they just are enamored with the stock market.

02:22:09.000 It's at 14,000!

02:22:10.000 Oh my gosh, it's heaven!

02:22:14.000 And the stock market at 2,000 levels, is it really 6,720?

02:22:21.000 That dollar value versus the year 2000, versus the Euro, it is at 6,720.

02:22:31.000 Let me explain that.

02:22:33.000 If you took the amount of inflation of our currency, And then you removed that, and the dollar was worth what it was in early 2000, the stock market with that dollar that you had in 2000, you would be able to buy up the whole stock market at 6,720 points.

02:22:59.000 It's real simple.

02:23:00.000 But I mean, I talked to the mainline folks, like they've been pre-programmed to not be able to understand it.

02:23:05.000 The dollar isn't worth as much oil Food, housing, gold, stocks are going to cost more.

02:23:21.000 So the reason the stock market is at 14,000 is because the dollar has lost 62% of its value.

02:23:31.000 The stock market then is really at 6,720 points.

02:23:37.000 Now I know most of my audience literally, and I mean this is smarter than I am, I call you, I get emails from you, I know you're intelligent, I'm sorry if you hear me talk like that like I'm talking to a baby, but there are people driving around right now in Lexuses, or they're driving around in police cars, and they just don't, they just All they know how to say is, we must kill Al-Qaeda. 0.60

02:23:56.000 They just literally repeat it over and over again.

02:23:59.000 They don't know Al-Qaeda's admitted CIA created.

02:24:01.000 I got stacks of news today where the Turkish government, our ally, they let us put nukes in Turkey before. 0.99

02:24:07.000 Well, you know, with the Russians. 0.88

02:24:10.000 Our saying, our government's funding terror groups inside Turkey to try to overthrow the government. 0.52

02:24:16.000 I mean, and of course it's Wahhabi terrorist as usual. 1.00

02:24:21.000 I mean, That's the Saudi Arabian variety.

02:24:24.000 They work for the globalists.

02:24:27.000 The British set them up, of course they do. 0.98

02:24:29.000 This is history, and I just can't even communicate with you. 1.00

02:24:31.000 I don't understand why you're so dumb. 1.00

02:24:34.000 I know you're not dumb. 1.00

02:24:35.000 You know how to, you know, go at the country club, make money as a broker, whatever you do, but you don't know about basic... You willfully don't want to know. 0.86

02:24:45.000 And if you just wake up, the globalists would get scared off and back off what they're doing.

02:24:49.000 But instead, you're taking the bait.

02:24:53.000 Yeah!

02:24:54.000 All you people wanted the illegals out!

02:24:56.000 That's why food prices are up!

02:25:00.000 And they swagger around with a very official look in their eyes.

02:25:06.000 Or they talk about, look at the stock market!

02:25:08.000 Look at that beauty!

02:25:09.000 Yeah!

02:25:09.000 But the market's up!

02:25:12.000 What can't you understand?

02:25:14.000 What is your major malfunction?

02:25:16.000 What is your problem?

02:25:22.000 What is wrong with you?

02:25:27.000 I mean, seriously!

02:25:29.000 I've been on airplanes, I've been at gun shops, I've been at the gym, and had arguments with good ol' boys.

02:25:36.000 I'll say, oh, I see you walking in, you got an NRA sticker.

02:25:39.000 Did you know the NRA actually helped push the gun control in this country? 1.00

02:25:43.000 Whatever, you're nuts. 0.99

02:25:44.000 What are you, are you joking, man? 1.00

02:25:46.000 What are you, some kind of liberal, making a joke?

02:25:48.000 And I'm like, no, really, uh, I know I'm not saying you're bad, they fooled you.

02:25:53.000 Now I have a duty, I talk to people with NRA stickers.

02:25:57.000 My wife gets mad that I don't do it anymore with her in the car, but I'll roll the window down and go, hey buddy, did you know you ought to join gun owners or JPFO? 0.91

02:26:05.000 That's not a real, and they'll just, whatever, man.

02:26:12.000 I mean, why?

02:26:13.000 I mean, why don't you want to save our precious Second Amendment?

02:26:16.000 Prove me a liar!

02:26:19.000 Go research what Larry Pratt just told you in the last hour.

02:26:24.000 I mean, if we could wake you up, we could blame the Federal Reserve for what's happening, they would have to back off, as Ron Paul has said.

02:26:31.000 We're not going to, though.

02:26:32.000 And let me tell you, when we're in a hardcore depression, you'll realize why I've been so upset.

02:26:37.000 Just remember that.

02:26:39.000 You may figure it out, but you'll hear what the talking heads say is causing it then, and you'll just parrot that at me.

02:26:45.000 Because you think if you pair it with somebody set off television, you're real smart!

02:26:49.000 And I'm telling you, you're not!

02:26:52.000 You're smart at fooling yourself, and that's about it.

02:26:56.000 You're smart at not living in the real world.

02:26:58.000 I just don't understand why you like being played, like being conned.

02:27:01.000 I just can't get over it!

02:27:02.000 I hate being played!

02:27:04.000 I hate not knowing how stuff works!

02:27:06.000 I hate being conned!

02:27:08.000 I hate losing! 0.99

02:27:09.000 I hate having a bunch of foreign bankers ruin my country and overrun us with a bunch of America-hating foreigners. 1.00

02:27:16.000 You think it's cute.

02:27:18.000 Or even if you know about it, you'll tell me, yeah, but I like George W. George W. doesn't run anything. 1.00

02:27:25.000 He doesn't run anything but his gay whores. 1.00

02:27:28.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

02:27:29.000 We're on the march.

02:27:36.000 The empire's on the run.

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02:31:01.000 He's literally written international weapons treaties, head lawyer for major governments, Amnesty International, on and on and on.

02:31:08.000 And he's written a book.

02:31:11.000 It's excellent.

02:31:14.000 About bringing down the New World Order.

02:31:15.000 We're going to talk to him in just a moment.

02:31:17.000 I wanted to get him on about the war with Iran, what's happening in Israel, the news coming out that Bush signed a secret order ordering the torture.

02:31:25.000 That really completes the circuit now, total proof.

02:31:28.000 We already had his White House counsels writing up the famous torture memos.

02:31:32.000 So I want to get his take on that here in just a moment.

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02:32:22.000 Bush has talked about using it.

02:32:23.000 The John Warren Defense Authorization Act talks about martial law.

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02:32:52.000 Now, his bio is so lengthy, his accomplishments so amazing, his courage so...

02:32:58.000 You know, the gravitas of it is amazing, and we really appreciate him coming on the show.

02:33:04.000 Last interview he did here got picked up by some magazines and newspapers, some of the largest, one of the largest in the country.

02:33:10.000 But Francis Boyle joins us again.

02:33:12.000 He's busy with classes today, so we won't have him long, but I appreciate you coming on with us, sir.

02:33:16.000 Well, thank you very much for having me on, Alex.

02:33:19.000 My best to your listening audience.

02:33:21.000 So much is happening in the world, sir.

02:33:23.000 With your expertise in international law and And in torture and tyranny and studying that and fighting it your whole life, can you give us the big view of where the world stands right now and then where the U.S.

02:33:35.000 stands in that world?

02:33:37.000 And then your response on this amazing revelation in the New York Times last week that what we already knew from the White House memos, but here it is confirmed, that Bush ordered all this.

02:33:48.000 Well, in answer to your first question, I think the major problem now is what seems to be some type of military attack on Iran.

02:33:58.000 It looks... ABC News reported that Bush has signed one of these covert action findings against Iran, and the reports seem to indicate that they're going to attack Iran.

02:34:13.000 I still think we have some time to head that off.

02:34:17.000 I think we have to do everything humanly possible to stop it.

02:34:21.000 One, it could get completely out of control and that whole area over there in the Persian Gulf could simply blow up.

02:34:29.000 And two, undoubtedly Bush will then use that as an excuse to further his police state tactics here in the United States.

02:34:38.000 Exactly!

02:34:39.000 That's the plan.

02:34:39.000 Culminating in martial law.

02:34:41.000 I'm sorry, go ahead, say that again.

02:34:42.000 If not, at some point culminating in martial law.

02:34:45.000 For example, if there is hostilities between the United States and Iran initiated by the Bush administration, let's suppose Iran responds with one of those silkworm missiles against a U.S. 0.58

02:34:58.000 aircraft carrier in the Gulf and takes it out or a destroyer, Bush would ask for a formal declaration of war from Congress, which he would probably get.

02:35:07.000 And at that point he would be, quote, a constitutional dictator, unquote.

02:35:12.000 There's an entire title of the United States Code that gives the President dictatorial powers in time of a formally declared war.

02:35:22.000 And he has methodically been exercising and preparing and funding the implementation of that, has he not, Doctor?

02:35:31.000 That's correct.

02:35:32.000 As a matter of fact, it's already been reported after September 11, 2001, he tried to get a formal declaration of war, and Congress refused to give it to him, and so they gave him a limited authorization to use military force under the War Powers Resolution.

02:35:48.000 It's also clear in the first draft of the USA Patriot Act, that it was sitting on Ashcroft's desk before September 11, They had already had a provision in there to suspend the writ of habeas corpus, which is all that separates us from a police state.

02:36:06.000 Namely, if you're detained, your lawyer can appear in court and demand that you be produced live in court to justify the detention and the conditions of detention, for example, such that You're being tortured or something like that.

02:36:21.000 So it's very clear that even before September 11, with that draft of the Patriot Act ready to go, they were contemplating setting up a police state, sure.

02:36:34.000 And if there is a formal declaration of war against Iran, that will be all they need. 0.89

02:36:43.000 Well, Professor Boyle, I mean, being in and out of the government at the highest level, watching all this being an expert, I mean, I'm no expert, but as a layman I've studied this in great detail.

02:36:52.000 And I've never seen such preparation for martial law.

02:36:55.000 I've never seen such public PR.

02:36:57.000 We later learned that, illegally, Tommy Franks had been on secret payroll, part of the fake reporters.

02:37:03.000 I called out when I saw it.

02:37:05.000 He would give the same speech on Fox, CNN, and magazines.

02:37:08.000 Now, I'm not partisan, and I'm not a Republican or Democrat, but it's gonna be real sad, but it's what people want, and it will keep us safe.

02:37:15.000 After the next attack, we're gonna set aside the Constitution for a military form of government.

02:37:20.000 So, I mean, we see, and now the John Warner Defense Authorization Act says the President against insurrection and the American people, I mean, and even if Iran doesn't blow up some aircraft carriers with some cruise missiles, the globalists, the neocons, I mean, did you see that letter a week and a half ago by Former Senator Gary Hart, the big CFR muckety-muck, where he told Iran, hey, we staged, in no uncertain terms, he said, look, we've staged events before.

02:37:51.000 Don't think the American people won't support an attack on you, because the historical question is, does the U.S.

02:37:57.000 government engage in provocations?

02:37:59.000 Did you see that letter?

02:38:00.000 I'm sorry, I didn't, but it's true they have all along, of course.

02:38:03.000 Why would Hart come out and say that?

02:38:08.000 You know, Brzezinski said the same thing.

02:38:11.000 You know, where you have these insiders like Brzezinski and Hart saying it's coming, and I think it clearly is, right?

02:38:17.000 And the neocons could not care less about democracy, as I said before, I was trained to be a neocon with all these people up there at the University of Chicago.

02:38:29.000 Wolfowitz was there, Kalajdad, Chalabi, Shulsky, all of them.

02:38:35.000 And we have to understand that the Founder of the neocons, Leo Strauss, his mentor in Germany and his teacher and his sponsor was Carl Schmitt, Professor Carl Schmitt, who went on to become the most notorious Nazi law professor of that benighted era, and justified in legal terms every hideous atrocity Hitler and the Nazis inflicted on everyone, including the Jews, preventive warfare, etc.

02:39:05.000 So all these neocons I have been schooled there at the University of Chicago, as I was, in Schmidt and Machiavelli and Nietzsche and Hobbes.

02:39:18.000 This is thoroughly anti-democratic training. 0.76

02:39:23.000 This is the beast man!

02:39:25.000 That's exactly the way all the neocons have been trained.

02:39:29.000 I went through the exact same program.

02:39:31.000 They were there with me.

02:39:34.000 Strauss had just retired when I started there in 1968, but I was trained to be a neocon by a formal student protégé, co-author and literary executor, Joseph Cropsey.

02:39:45.000 And it still is a source for producing all these neocons.

02:39:50.000 Dr. Ball, here's my question to you.

02:39:52.000 I do want to say, though, these people, having gone to school with them and been trained to be one of them, They are very smart, very well-trained, and they are completely ruthless and unprincipled.

02:40:05.000 And they are motivated by an ideology that is anti-American, and it's basically neo-Nazi.

02:40:13.000 That's what we're dealing with.

02:40:14.000 Well, that Nazi theme keeps coming up. 0.89

02:40:16.000 I mean, the main bag man for the person that bankrolled Hitler, Fritz Thiessen, was Prescott Bush, and then he got left as the executor of those banks and monies after World War II.

02:40:27.000 So, this Nazi theme keeps popping up.

02:40:33.000 You know, historical matter, and I have that cited in one of my books, but I'm just telling you, being a product of the neocon system, that they are neo-Nazis, they've been trained to think like neo-Nazis, and you don't have to take my word for it, there is a Canadian professor of political philosophy, Shadia Drury, D-R-U-R-Y, and she's written two books on these people.

02:40:59.000 The Political Ideas of Leo Strauss, And Leo Strauss in the American Right.

02:41:06.000 And to the best of my knowledge, Professor Drury had no contact with the University of Chicago.

02:41:11.000 Well, I was trained to be one of these people.

02:41:13.000 I was at the top of my class there.

02:41:15.000 And I agree fully with everything Professor Drury says.

02:41:19.000 All right, let me just stop you there.

02:41:20.000 What does it mean?

02:41:21.000 What does it mean to you, Doctor, working with these people at the highest levels?

02:41:24.000 What does it mean studying this, to have Zbigniew Brzezinski telling the Senate committee Hey, the government may stage a provocation, a terror attack to blame it on Iran.

02:41:34.000 What does it mean when Gary Hart writes a letter saying, we stage events, Iran.

02:41:38.000 Don't think they won't stage one to attack you.

02:41:41.000 I mean, he just said it!

02:41:42.000 Are they doing that to terrorize Iran?

02:41:46.000 Or is Zbigniew Brzezinski, who we know is a very corrupt cookie, and Gary Hart, who's been pushing the whole, you know, he supported the whole Homeland Security plan, wrote it up.

02:41:55.000 Are they now jumping ship?

02:41:58.000 Well, I think, you know, now Brzezinski, I went to the same PhD program at Harvard that produced both Brzezinski and Kissinger.

02:42:05.000 They gave me Kissinger's old office there at the Center for International Affairs.

02:42:09.000 I do not believe Brzezinski would qualify as a neocon.

02:42:14.000 He is a traditional realpolitiker.

02:42:18.000 But I think Brzezinski is certainly sending a warning to anyone who will listen to him That based upon his knowledge of these people and the way they operate, that some type of provocation is on the pike.

02:42:34.000 It's coming.

02:42:35.000 So I interpreted the statement he made as a warning by an insider that this is coming.

02:42:44.000 I don't know him personally, but again, as you know, he ran for the president.

02:42:48.000 He was a senator tied into CFR.

02:42:50.000 And that's the way he sees it, too.

02:42:53.000 So I think we have to pay attention.

02:42:55.000 And as you pointed out, Tommy Frank said, yeah, one more terrorist attack and we're going to shut the Constitution down.

02:43:01.000 It's already been reported that if there is another terrorist attack, Cheney's going to blame it on Iran.

02:43:07.000 And I'm sure they will institute martial law, if not the whole country, certainly selectively, as you, again, correctly pointed out.

02:43:15.000 They've amended the Posse Comitatus Act out of existence.

02:43:18.000 They've amended the Insurrection Act, permitting the President to call out the National Guard for any reason at all.

02:43:26.000 The Protect America Act in August, where basically amended the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act out of existence.

02:43:36.000 The leading guidelines in the Department of Justice to prevent the Watergate abuses, those were all ended by Ashcroft.

02:43:47.000 So, even the Department of Justice, we're now back in the days of COINTELPRO, and this new Attorney General nominee, Mukasey, he's a neocon.

02:43:57.000 And he also covered up government involvement in the First World Trade Center bombing.

02:44:02.000 I'm not familiar with that role, but I do know he was the judge who accepted President Bush's unilateral and unconstitutional determination That a United States citizen named Jose Padilla was an enemy combatant and transferred a U.S.

02:44:21.000 citizen to a U.S.

02:44:23.000 military break where he was held for three years and tortured.

02:44:27.000 That's the type of nominee we have for the Attorney General, and we also have one at Homeland Security.

02:44:34.000 Chertoff is a neocon as well.

02:44:36.000 That brings me up to my next point.

02:44:40.000 A, obviously you know about the secret order for the torture by Bush, that completes the circuit, and you know, they're putting people in prison for following the orders, but then Bush claimed he wasn't involved in torture after they had first advertised it and said it was good, so what does that mean in all of this?

02:44:54.000 And then, is there any way to stop them from starting World War III and going around and arresting everybody and setting up the Third Reich, uh, the Fourth Reich? 0.89

02:45:04.000 Well, clearly President Bush is the top of the chain of command.

02:45:07.000 He gave the orders, and he's fully accountable for all these criminal practices, including torture, which violates the Convention Against Torture, a federal statute making torture a crime.

02:45:20.000 But now he can't say that he didn't know.

02:45:21.000 Well, of course he knew all along.

02:45:24.000 I mean, he was... Yeah, we knew that!

02:45:26.000 We knew that from the memos, obviously, but now we have him.

02:45:29.000 Right.

02:45:31.000 But the point is, what can we do now?

02:45:33.000 Well, you know, we still have our First Amendment rights.

02:45:38.000 These neocons have basically shredded the rest of the Bill of Rights.

02:45:44.000 We can protest, demonstrate, sit in peaceful nonviolent sit-ins.

02:45:50.000 Cindy Sheehan and others sat in there, Congressman Conyers, demanding impeachment. 0.98

02:45:56.000 We have to do that.

02:45:57.000 Also, we have to run candidates against incumbents that will not support impeachment of Bush and Cheney immediately to stop this.

02:46:08.000 Well, that was my next point, is that the Democrats are more neoconnish in many cases than the Republicans, so how do we deal with that in your opinion?

02:46:15.000 And B, what do we do if they go ahead and stage a new attack or launch a new war and try to have martial law?

02:46:24.000 I'm singing that myself, as I think I told you.

02:46:27.000 I'm on the U.S.

02:46:29.000 government's terrorist watch list.

02:46:32.000 Back in the summer of 2004, an agent from the FBI and an agent from the CIA-FBI Joint Terrorist Task Force showed up at my office.

02:46:42.000 proceeded to interrogate me for one hour and uh... repeatedly asked me to become an informant on my uh... arab and muslim clients which would have violated their constitutional rights and my ethical obligations as an attorney i refuse to do it so they put me on all the government's terrorist watch list and as far as my lawyer can figure out there are five or six of them and i'm on all of them so i take it uh... i will be one of the first taken out when uh...

02:47:10.000 Have you heard about the ambassador who went to an anti-war deal so now she can't fly out of Canada?

02:47:16.000 Right, I'm on those lists.

02:47:18.000 I mean, this is Nazi Germany!

02:47:20.000 That's what they do now!

02:47:21.000 Well, I'm just telling your listening audience, look, whether you like us lawyers or not, but the bottom line is there are a lot of lawyers trying to fight to stop this.

02:47:32.000 And, you know, we lawyers are sort of the canary birds in the mine shafts of democracy.

02:47:38.000 When the air goes foul, the canary birds die, warning the miners that it's time to get out of the mine.

02:47:44.000 Well, they're going after lawyers.

02:47:46.000 They went after Mr. Mayfield there in Oregon.

02:47:50.000 They went after Lynn Stewart out in New York.

02:47:54.000 They tried to go after Ramsey Clark, the former Attorney General.

02:47:58.000 They've come after me.

02:48:01.000 So, you know, under these circumstances, I think, you know, people have to decide in accordance with their own conscience what they're going to do.

02:48:10.000 But, I mean, even with Hitler, his own people started fighting him.

02:48:13.000 I mean, it's got a skull.

02:48:15.000 Eighty percent of people disagree with him now.

02:48:17.000 Do you think they're going too far?

02:48:19.000 I mean, do you think they're going to fail?

02:48:21.000 I don't know.

02:48:22.000 Isn't that really up to you and me and your listening audience, Alex?

02:48:26.000 Yeah, I'm trying as hard as I can, Dr. Boyle.

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02:53:15.000 Going back to Francis Boyle, you were just telling me during the break about you flew back into the country to Chicago and there were armed guys waiting for you and they take you into custody and, you know, you get to get interrogated.

02:53:26.000 And I said, well, do you speak up and tell them, hey, this is America?

02:53:29.000 You just said, no, I've been all over the world.

02:53:30.000 It's like a communist or fascist country. 0.99

02:53:32.000 You just keep your mouth shut.

02:53:35.000 I mean, to see us turn into this. 0.85

02:53:38.000 These people are bullies, and if we don't speak up, they're going to win.

02:53:41.000 There's no doubt things are going to be worse in the final equation if we don't speak up.

02:53:45.000 And I hope everybody out there isn't intimidated by this.

02:53:49.000 I hope you get outraged by it.

02:53:50.000 Dr. Boyle, I mean, you've had to deal with this with courage, speaking out against them and having this happen.

02:53:56.000 What do you say to folks about fighting tyranny?

02:54:00.000 Well, we're Americans, aren't we?

02:54:02.000 We came from a background of launching a revolution against tyrants.

02:54:07.000 I mean it's in our blood, it's in our history.

02:54:10.000 I don't think I have to give people a lecture here about what they have to do.

02:54:15.000 I think the purpose of my appearing on the Program today is agreeing with you and saying the hour is close at hand.

02:54:25.000 If they attack Iran, they could set off World War III and then institute martial law. 0.79

02:54:33.000 And understand, as the neocons see it, They've been at war with the Arab and Muslim world, 58 states and 1.5 billion people for quite some time.

02:54:49.000 They would be happy to have a war with Iran that could degenerate all over the Middle East. 1.00

02:54:55.000 The neocons, the clean break for Netanyahu by Perl and the rest of them.

02:55:01.000 They want to redraw the Middle East and break up all the states over there in a manner that would be better able to be controlled by the United States than Israel. 0.95

02:55:14.000 And they want to set up a loyal commissariat, secret police state here in the U.S.

02:55:21.000 So, I mean, bottom line then, and that's what you're pointing out, This is part of a chain.

02:55:28.000 They're not failing in Iraq.

02:55:29.000 They wanted to break it in three parts and sow sectarian violence.

02:55:31.000 They want to spread it, don't they, sir?

02:55:33.000 That's correct.

02:55:34.000 From the neocon perspective, Iraq is a great success. 1.00

02:55:38.000 They've destroyed Iraq as a state. 0.99

02:55:41.000 They've set off a civil war.

02:55:43.000 And now there's ethnic cleansing.

02:55:45.000 So it doesn't bother them that they have murdered 3,816 Americans.

02:55:49.000 Our mothers and our fathers Our brothers and our sisters and our sons and our daughters.

02:55:57.000 And I use the word murder as a law professor.

02:56:01.000 I taught criminal law.

02:56:03.000 Murder means the intentional killing of a human being with malice or forethought.

02:56:08.000 Sir, we're out of time.

02:56:09.000 I want to get you up in the next few weeks for a full hour.

02:56:12.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

02:56:13.000 You're the author of Three Bugs, one of them destroying world order.

02:56:16.000 Thank you for coming on.

02:56:18.000 Thank you very much.

02:56:19.000 God bless.

02:56:19.000 We'll see you back tomorrow.

02:56:21.000 The show restarts right now at InfoWars.com.

Alex Jones Show - October 10, 2007

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