Alex Jones Show - 20080229_Fri_Alex

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:09.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:10.000 You want answers?

00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:14.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 And new numbers out today show inflation is on the rise.

00:00:41.000 Consumer prices jumped 0.4% in January, higher than economists expected.

00:00:46.000 The cost of food and fuel are the reasons.

00:00:48.000 In the past 12 months, prices have risen 4.3%.

00:00:52.000 And one of the ways you're surely feeling the effects of inflation is in the price of bread and pancakes and pasta.

00:00:58.000 Anything made with wheat.

00:01:00.000 Today, a bushel sold for $10.33, more than double what it cost a year ago.

00:01:04.000 As ABC's Sharon Alfonso reports, consumers are eating those higher prices.

00:01:11.000 Bakery owner Pam Weeks is counting every pinch of flour and watching every penny.

00:01:16.000 It's just unbelievable how much the price of flour went up overnight, literally.

00:01:20.000 Just a few weeks ago, these 50-pound bags of flour cost $15.

00:01:23.000 Today, they're $40.

00:01:27.000 We're trying to figure out ways to cope with that, but it's to the point now where we have no choice.

00:01:32.000 We're going to have to raise prices.

00:01:35.000 Blame it on the price of wheat.

00:01:37.000 Demand for alternative energy has farmers planting less wheat and more corn, the key ingredient of ethanol.

00:01:44.000 Add the growing appetite for wheat from developing countries, and the supply is strained.

00:01:51.000 U.S.

00:01:51.000 wheat stockpiles have hit a 60-year low, and wheat prices have never been higher.

00:01:57.000 That means the cost of pasta has doubled.

00:02:00.000 And that loaf of bread?

00:02:01.000 It'll cost you an extra 20 cents.

00:02:03.000 Economists say it is the fastest rising rate of food inflation in nearly 15 years.

00:02:09.000 The price spike is being felt across the globe.

00:02:12.000 In Italy, the cost of pasta is spiraling, up 20%.

00:02:17.000 Malaysia is no longer allowing anyone to take flour out of the country.

00:02:22.000 And in Pakistan, they're now stockpiling wheat and using its military to guard flour mills.

00:02:28.000 As long as this strong foreign demand continues, and as long as the demand for ethanol continues to grow very rapidly, there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.

00:02:38.000 Putting wheat farmers like Joe Care in an unusual position.

00:02:43.000 The driver's seat.

00:02:44.000 Well it is real exciting to see where the prices are.

00:02:47.000 Prices that I have not seen in my lifetime.

00:02:50.000 The world's hunger for ethanol is changing the landscape of America.

00:02:55.000 Pam Weeks wonders if the price will curb our appetite. 0.98

00:03:00.000 Sharon Alfonsi, ABC News, New York.

00:03:04.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:03:06.000 It is Friday, the 29th day of February 2008.

00:03:10.000 We're going to be live here for the next three hours.

00:03:15.000 We have A top economist, Mr. Robini of the New York University Stern School of Business joining us.

00:03:24.000 He was in the Financial Times of London last week with this headline, America's Economy Risks the Mother of All Meltdowns.

00:03:32.000 I've heard the neocons on air this morning flipping around on several different channels all going off talking points.

00:03:39.000 It was clear that the Federal Reserve is loving and wonderful and good and Bush is good and that evil Democrats Want to say the economy's bad to lie to us?

00:03:52.000 No, the Democrats are bought and paid for by the very same institutions that have devalued our currency.

00:03:57.000 The elite have engineered this.

00:04:01.000 The neocons were also trying to blame all the troubles on people that shouldn't have gotten home loans, and that's true, but why were they given the credit with zero credit?

00:04:12.000 So the scapegoating is beginning.

00:04:16.000 And the question is, how far down will the economy go?

00:04:20.000 Gold futures gain after hitting record high of 978.

00:04:23.000 Here's a Reuters headline.

00:04:26.000 Gold powers towards record on oil.

00:04:29.000 Eyes $1,000 an ounce.

00:04:31.000 So we have the professor joining us for 20 minutes, then Jeffrey Smith, an expert on GMO foods.

00:04:39.000 You're not going to believe what you hear.

00:04:42.000 But it's all documented.

00:04:43.000 Unbelievable information.

00:04:45.000 Daniel Esselin popping in for 30 minutes as well in the third hour.

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00:08:02.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:08:09.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:12.000 Noriel Rubini of the New York University Stern School of Business saying we face an economic meltdown.

00:08:29.000 We'll be joining us coming up in 20 minutes.

00:08:33.000 Then we've got Jeffrey Smith, who's an incredible researcher.

00:08:36.000 I was reading some articles he'd written.

00:08:39.000 I tuned in to Genesis One.

00:08:41.000 I was listening to Rents.

00:08:42.000 I heard him on there.

00:08:45.000 So often what happens is I've read thousands of documents and articles over the years about GMO foods and hormones in the food and the milk and the synthetic hormones and you forget it all.

00:09:01.000 Well, you don't completely forget it.

00:09:02.000 It's like in your mind and then you get on air and you kind of shorthand.

00:09:08.000 By shorthand, you just go, yeah, the GMO is really bad for you.

00:09:14.000 When they change one gene, it changes thousands of others randomly.

00:09:19.000 And then I just kind of move on.

00:09:20.000 I read a story here.

00:09:21.000 I read a story there.

00:09:22.000 But I heard this guy for like an hour on the radio.

00:09:24.000 Then I went and read a bunch of his writings and checked out his website.

00:09:28.000 And he's an author.

00:09:29.000 And it's all documented.

00:09:31.000 And so you're saying, well, why are you having somebody on if you say you've already talked about it and you've already documented it?

00:09:39.000 And if you're saying you know everything he's saying is true, why even have him on?

00:09:42.000 Why shouldn't you just say it?

00:09:44.000 Because he studies it all the time.

00:09:47.000 He's up on it.

00:09:48.000 He's constantly looking at it.

00:09:50.000 He knows all the latest info.

00:09:52.000 He was mentioning all these quotes and all these documents and all these statements where the GMO makers admit they know this is hurting people, admit they know that they don't know what they're doing, admit that it's created new amino acids that have never existed on planet Earth that are Totally toxic.

00:10:11.000 And we've had, again, Nobel Prize winners, top scientists on, who worked for these companies, and they're making millions of dollars a year themselves, and they still have the will to come out and say, we can't put this on store shelves, and then they get fired.

00:10:26.000 And I respect people like that.

00:10:27.000 We've had quite a few of them on who are heading up whole biotech divisions.

00:10:32.000 You know, who have millions of dollars of stock in the company and are paid millions a year, and half the rats die in a month eating a new potato, and they go, this is being approved?

00:10:43.000 We can't put this on shelves! 0.98

00:10:44.000 And they say, shut up! 0.99

00:10:46.000 Do you understand? 0.99

00:10:47.000 That's why everybody's getting sick.

00:10:51.000 Massive studies linked directly

00:10:55.000 to the GMO corn, the potatoes, the other staple vegetable and grain crops where you eat this stuff and then it causes your immune system to go into overdrive like you're fighting an illness every single day and basically that wears your body out and what happens is when your body stops fighting cancer, when your body stops fighting outside organisms

00:11:25.000 That's when you get cancer.

00:11:27.000 That's when you get more allergies.

00:11:28.000 That's when you get autoimmune diseases.

00:11:30.000 That's when you get blood diseases.

00:11:31.000 We have all the studies on this.

00:11:35.000 And that's only one area of discussion here.

00:11:39.000 They know it's causing all sorts of diseases of the upper and lower intestine and the stomach.

00:11:48.000 They know that it's causing massive increases in diabetes.

00:11:53.000 They know That it's causing all sorts of inflammation of the brain.

00:12:00.000 And we have all these studies, but he can just sit here and rock them off and give you source, after source, after source, after source, and then whole other areas of synthetic bovine growth hormone and a cocktail of other hormones that they give the milk cow, so they'll make three, four, five times the milk a milk cow normally would.

00:12:22.000 And then you drink them, into your system and the boys are effeminate.

00:12:30.000 I don't want to get too graphic here, but when you're 10, 11, 12, you're supposed to, or even earlier, you're supposed to have a male's reproductive organs are like ovaries, but they sit on the outside because they need to be about 96 degrees to produce healthy sperm.

00:12:51.000 This gets into the whole science of it, but your body's 98.9.

00:12:56.000 Or higher, in some cases, or a little bit lower.

00:13:02.000 And so they drop when you go into puberty.

00:13:06.000 For women that don't know about this, and even most men don't remember this is the process, but when you go into puberty at 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, I went into puberty at like 10, which is pretty early for a male, and they then descend.

00:13:22.000 They're up in your body and they come down.

00:13:26.000 Well, now they've got tens of thousands of males that are 20 years old and never had their testicles dropped.

00:13:34.000 And that's because of the hormones.

00:13:36.000 Absolutely documented.

00:13:37.000 See, I'm already getting off of this.

00:13:38.000 I have all this economic news I want to get to.

00:13:41.000 But we need to start focusing more intently in on this on the show.

00:13:44.000 Now, conversely, the males are feminine.

00:13:47.000 The males act feminine. 0.85

00:13:48.000 They look feminine.

00:13:49.000 They're filled with estrogen.

00:13:52.000 And estrogen mimicking things that are in the milk, that are in the plastics.

00:13:56.000 It's in everything.

00:13:59.000 It's in just so many, tens of thousands of products.

00:14:03.000 But females, conversely, remember a few months ago it was in the US and British papers, big studies coming out, with hundreds of thousands of girls going into puberty when they're six.

00:14:14.000 Thousands going into puberty when they're three!

00:14:18.000 And they take the child to the doctor and, well my three-year-old is, you know, developing larger mammary glands, larger breast, I mean, we're talking about seven-year-olds who aren't even pregnant, lactating, I mean, just crazy stuff going on.

00:14:32.000 Well, you're on hardcore, chemically produced, in big factories, hormones that make cows just produce massive amounts of milk!

00:14:44.000 These are frankenfoods!

00:14:47.000 And so, it really hurts the girls, statistically worse than boys.

00:14:52.000 And that's why women, that's why breast cancer is way, way, way up. 1.00

00:14:57.000 Again, it's a cocktail of things, but just the chemicals, just the hormones in the milk alone, and there's no debating this.

00:15:04.000 This is absolutely proven in the company, Monsanto, and others that produce it, own internal documents.

00:15:12.000 There have been films made on it with the documents.

00:15:15.000 There have been lawsuits.

00:15:16.000 The documents have come out.

00:15:17.000 They know it does this.

00:15:20.000 They know it takes your girl, and girls are supposed to go into puberty later than boys, and she should be going into puberty at 13, 14 years old, And she's going to go into puberty at three years old, and you're going to take her to the doctor, and does the doctor say, get her off GMO foods, get her off the cheeses and other milk products and yogurts that have these hormones in them, these unnatural hormones?

00:15:42.000 No, he's not going to do that.

00:15:45.000 He is going to put her on a hormone regimen that is going to block out and cancel out the other hormones.

00:15:52.000 There's going to be fluctuations that hormones are very toxic to the liver and other glands.

00:15:56.000 They're associated, higher hormone levels, with cancers.

00:16:02.000 You know, it is our sexual drive that burns us out.

00:16:06.000 It is tissues in the body that have higher exchange rates of hormone fluctuation that is, they're very toxic.

00:16:15.000 Even natural hormones.

00:16:17.000 And so, that's why you generally get cancers in hormonally rich regions.

00:16:23.000 See, sharks do not get cancer because sharks do not operate on a hormone system.

00:16:32.000 Mammals do.

00:16:35.000 And most other life forms do.

00:16:37.000 Sharks don't. 0.83

00:16:38.000 I've just seen TV specials on it and read about it.

00:16:40.000 They really study the sharks.

00:16:42.000 I'm sure you know about it as well.

00:16:43.000 The point is, this is all documented.

00:16:45.000 And they don't get cancer.

00:16:50.000 And they pegged it to they don't have hormones. 0.90

00:16:53.000 And it just expands from there.

00:16:59.000 It's a...

00:17:00.000 Lizards rarely get, reptiles don't get a lot of cancers either.

00:17:05.000 They do have hormones, but at much lower levels than us, but you notice they're also cold-blooded.

00:17:10.000 They have to go out and have the sun.

00:17:11.000 See, we have internal engines that drive us.

00:17:14.000 We're very, very dynamic creatures.

00:17:17.000 But the flame that burns twice as bright only burns half as long.

00:17:22.000 And we have done amazing things, extraordinary things.

00:17:24.000 But we need to understand the nature of this.

00:17:31.000 You start pouring a bunch of artificial hormones, or even if it was natural hormones hopped up, you're going to have problems.

00:17:38.000 But these are synthetic Cheaply made because you want cheap milk at the store.

00:17:44.000 Yeah, milk will be three or four times the price, but it'd be three or four times thicker and more healthy.

00:17:50.000 You know, they've even bred cows to have a different type of milk than they had a few hundred years ago.

00:17:55.000 They found some cows that had some passive genetic traits to make a thinner type.

00:18:00.000 They have different names and letter rankings.

00:18:03.000 There's really four different types of milk that cows produce.

00:18:05.000 I'm going from memory on this.

00:18:06.000 Go look it up. 0.94

00:18:09.000 The milk we drink is the gruelish, thin junk.

00:18:18.000 Now I've just spent the entire segment on this.

00:18:20.000 What have I done?

00:18:22.000 That's coming up in the second hour.

00:18:24.000 And I'm going to spend more and more time on this, more and more guests on this.

00:18:29.000 But I like to get people on who I know are accurate.

00:18:31.000 And I know this guy's accurate because I basically know everything he knows.

00:18:34.000 He just is on it and more articulate because this is all he does.

00:18:39.000 And he can give you the sources so you can prove to yourself right now we're telling you the truth.

00:18:46.000 And it's a holocaust, there's no doubt. 0.98

00:18:48.000 This is affecting us all.

00:18:51.000 That's why if you study the Rockefellers and Rothschilds and the elites, they all have their own private farms in many cases.

00:18:58.000 They have their own food organically delivered to them.

00:19:00.000 They only go to special organic restaurants that are certified.

00:19:03.000 They're always drinking reverse osmosis or specially filtered water.

00:19:08.000 They know.

00:19:09.000 They know.

00:19:11.000 And most of us can't even afford to fully be off of what they're doing.

00:19:17.000 And now when we try to force it into market by buying it, the feds come in and sue people and won't even let them properly certify they don't have hormones in them.

00:19:27.000 Or that they don't have GMO.

00:19:28.000 Or they say, oh no, we're going to start certifying GMO as healthy.

00:19:33.000 And saying it's not GMO.

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00:19:46.000 That's the body trying to kick all this out.

00:19:48.000 Kids didn't have pimples 50 years ago, 100 years ago.

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00:24:22.000 Gold went up to right at $980 an ounce today.

00:24:32.000 It's at $971.50 right now this second, going up and down between $975 and $970.

00:24:40.000 We have a top economist joining us in the next segment, Noriel Robini.

00:24:50.000 me.

00:24:51.000 Headline, America's Economy at Risk for the Mother of All Meltdowns.

00:24:55.000 And I'm not even saying all this is going to happen.

00:24:59.000 But there's a good chance of it happening, so we're going to be addressing it and we're going to be talking about it.

00:25:03.000 I mean, Bush coming out and saying we're not even in a recession, that type of lying is not encouraging.

00:25:11.000 Gold powers to record on oil.

00:25:14.000 I's $1,000 an ounce.

00:25:19.000 The professor is joining us for the next segment, but for about three minutes I've got Ted up here again because when this rush is gone, it's gone.

00:25:26.000 And folks, I believe we're at the beginning of the bull market.

00:25:31.000 Gold has gone from, what, $264 an ounce seven years ago to $970-plus, and the futures are way above that.

00:25:44.000 Gold should be at $2,200 plus for 1980 numbers for inflation.

00:25:49.000 Now, I don't know if it'll ever go to $2,000.

00:25:51.000 It probably will.

00:25:52.000 But regardless, the dollar is going down.

00:25:55.000 And this is how you save some of your assets.

00:25:58.000 This is how you store wealth and potentially end up making large profits.

00:26:02.000 But who knows what's going to happen there.

00:26:05.000 Ted, this is amazing.

00:26:06.000 It just continues.

00:26:08.000 Yeah, well, the U.S.

00:26:09.000 dollar's dropping again today like crazy.

00:26:12.000 It's been dropping almost every single day I look.

00:26:15.000 Every now and then you can see an uptick day, but it's very, very rare.

00:26:18.000 Well, when we have Greenspan running around saying, telling the Arabs, dump the dollar, it's going to, I mean, gold's going to go up.

00:26:24.000 Yeah, well, gold's going to go up and, you know, the Arabs want to get out of it. 1.00

00:26:28.000 Greenspan running around is just adding fuel to the fire, that's all.

00:26:33.000 Basically, what it comes down to is, It looks like the Titanic may be sinking.

00:26:38.000 You might want a life vest, or you might not want to listen to us.

00:26:40.000 I don't know.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, just go ahead and go down in the icy waters.

00:26:44.000 I can tell you right now, I'm still running the same special as I did yesterday, which gold is up now $30 since I put that special together.

00:26:53.000 We do have the British Sovereigns.

00:26:54.000 Again, they're at $262.

00:26:55.000 That's a quarter ounce gold piece.

00:26:56.000 You can do the math.

00:27:00.000 Uh, the Franks right now, same thing.

00:27:02.000 I priced all this stuff at $940.

00:27:05.000 Uh, Franks right now are at $210.

00:27:08.000 And the silver, Alex, just approaching now $20 an ounce, $19.91 at the high.

00:27:15.000 Presently, right now, silver is at $9.75.

00:27:21.000 $21 per dollar face on silver.

00:27:22.000 That's for quarters and dimes.

00:27:24.000 Now, again, in math, you just do 4 quarters or 10 dimes equals $1 face.

00:27:28.000 What is the silver at right now?

00:27:29.000 $19 what?

00:27:30.000 $19.

00:27:30.000 silver right now 19 what $19 currently right now $19.80 and it's seen its high at 1991 so silver is a really good buy as well I'll All that stuff is going up.

00:27:45.000 You've got to remember, the last market peak, the United States dollar was still in control of the world.

00:27:50.000 It was the world reserve currency.

00:27:53.000 Even though at that time we had double-digit inflation, which we're going to see that here.

00:27:56.000 There's no way we can escape it now.

00:27:58.000 But even though we saw double-digit inflation, then the countries of the world were still trying to use the United States dollar as a reserve currency.

00:28:05.000 Now all they want to do is get out of it as fast whenever there's an opportunity to sell, they get out of it.

00:28:10.000 Yeah, this is a very sad day, folks.

00:28:12.000 You shouldn't be rubbing your hands together if you've bought gold and it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled in value, or if your silver's quadrupled.

00:28:19.000 I mean, silver was at like $5, $6, and now it's at $19.

00:28:20.000 This is very sad for our country.

00:28:26.000 I mean, it's not fun abandoning ship.

00:28:29.000 It's just, this is a hedge against mega-inflation, and give them the number, tell them about the deals again.

00:28:35.000 Yeah, it's 1-800-686-2237.

00:28:36.000 Again, that's 1-800-686-2237.

00:28:36.000 The British Sovereign's at $262.

00:28:38.000 It's a steal, man.

00:28:39.000 It's a quarter ounce gold piece.

00:28:39.000 The Frank coins are at $210.

00:28:40.000 Again, another really good buy in the marketplace.

00:28:42.000 The British sovereigns at $262.00.

00:28:45.000 It's a steal, man.

00:28:46.000 It's a quarter ounce gold piece.

00:28:48.000 The Frank coins are at $210.00.

00:28:50.000 Again, another really good buy in the marketplace.

00:28:52.000 That's one fifth of an ounce of gold.

00:28:54.000 And then the silver right now at 21 bucks is about a, right now it's about $1.40 over spot.

00:29:01.000 That spot has just raced through $18 an ounce and it's just plastering through $19.

00:29:07.000 I'm sure we're going to see $20 here very quickly.

00:29:09.000 Give them the number, Ted.

00:29:12.000 It's 1-800-686-2237.

00:29:12.000 Call us.

00:29:12.000 Get your position secured.

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00:29:15.000 Call us.

00:29:16.000 Get your position secured.

00:29:18.000 Get away from that Federal Reserve note.

00:29:20.000 It's not our country that's dying right now.

00:29:22.000 It's the Federal Reserve note that's dying.

00:29:24.000 Let's bring back the Constitution.

00:29:26.000 Let's have the United States back.

00:29:29.000 1-800-686-2237.

00:29:30.000 The brokers are there right now.

00:29:33.000 It's just like going to a grocery store.

00:29:35.000 Line.

00:29:35.000 Boom.

00:29:35.000 Tell them which one of those deals you want.

00:29:37.000 And they'll mail it right out to you.

00:29:38.000 800-686-2237.

00:29:38.000 Give them a call.

00:29:39.000 800-686-237.

00:29:39.000 Or... I guess don't.

00:29:39.000 Invest in the stock market.

00:29:41.000 Give them a call, 800-686-237.

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00:33:15.000 I can't figure it out.

00:33:16.000 Didn't take no chances.

00:33:18.000 What sometimes I've been sitting it out Didn't take no chance to say Was a prisoner and I And I've never waited for Ain't no reason Got to see the fortune

00:33:46.000 Feel me Coming straight on for you You made my life Now I'm strong and I'm coming through Straight on for you Professor of Economics and International Business Stern School of Business, New York University

00:34:16.000 And he has been an advisor to the Treasury Department, an advisor to Well, if I tried to go through his bio, we would basically lose all the time that we have with him today.

00:34:33.000 Needless to say, Advisor to the U.S.

00:34:34.000 Treasury Department, Senior Advisor to the Undersecretary for International Affairs, Director of the Office of Policy, Department of Revenue, U.S.

00:34:42.000 Treasury, Senior Economist for International Affairs, White House Counsel and Economic Advisors, on and on and on.

00:34:49.000 And I was already aware of his work, and we try to have Top Economist on each week for you.

00:34:54.000 He was quoted in a Financial Times of London story last week, America's economy risks the mother of all meltdowns.

00:35:03.000 And joining us is Professor Robini.

00:35:07.000 Sir, thank you for spending time.

00:35:09.000 A pleasure being with you today.

00:35:11.000 You've got the floor.

00:35:12.000 Can you explain how we've gotten to this point and where you see the economy going with more and more bad news, leveraged debt, the states trying to get their money out of investments, all the... I mean, just bottom line, in layman's terms, Professor, what are we facing?

00:35:31.000 In layman's terms, we're facing a pretty severe recession in my view.

00:35:35.000 The recession has already started when you look at all sorts of economic indicators like there is no job creation, demand is falling, the housing recession is getting worse.

00:35:48.000 The firms and the consumers are nervous about the future.

00:35:52.000 Inflation is rising.

00:35:53.000 It's obvious that economic activity is contracting, and this is going to be a pretty severe recession.

00:36:00.000 Last time around, we had a recession.

00:36:02.000 In 2001, it lasted only eight months.

00:36:05.000 I fear this is going to be a longer and more protracted recession that may last 12 to 18 months.

00:36:11.000 So, something very painful for jobs, for employment, for incomes, for consumption.

00:36:17.000 I know you're not political, but we need your analysis.

00:36:21.000 President Bush comes out and says we're not even going into a recession and everything's wonderful.

00:36:27.000 Is that them trying to sure up a panic or what's happening?

00:36:32.000 Yeah, I mean, saying we're not in a recession is not accepting reality.

00:36:36.000 You go around America and you ask people, they're worried about their jobs, they're worried that now inflation is eroding the value of their incomes, the price of gas is going up, the price of energy, the price of food, the price of all sorts of goods, and wages are not going up, so people are really being stressed.

00:36:55.000 That's why consumption is falling, the value of the homes are falling, people cannot use any more They're home as ATM machine and borrow against it.

00:37:04.000 Oil is at $100 per barrel.

00:37:06.000 Gasoline is going to be soon enough at $4 per barrel.

00:37:09.000 You have now a flak in the labor market with job losses.

00:37:14.000 Confidence is down for the consumers.

00:37:16.000 You have a credit crunch in the mortgage market.

00:37:19.000 Interest rates on consumer debt are going up.

00:37:22.000 Americans and houses are being pinched in a severe way like they've been for 20 years now.

00:37:28.000 Have we, since the 70s in my opinion, have we hit the wall or will we hit the wall when everyone's maxed out and then we have all these cascading events coming together, Greenspan's telling the big oil producers get out of the dollar, which it seems to me all we've got left is our fiat currency, sir.

00:37:50.000 You're right.

00:37:51.000 We have many different problems.

00:37:52.000 We have these very, very nasty problems in the credit market and it's not anymore just a subprime mortgage problem because the rot has spread from subprime mortgages to near prime mortgages to prime mortgages.

00:38:06.000 And it's not just mortgages, you know, you have now default rates rising for consumer credit, auto loans, credit cards, student loans, and it's not just residential real estate now, there's a beginning of a bust in commercial real estate, and then you have this problem you suggested of rising oil prices and rising inflation, and at the same time we have the weakening of the value of the dollar, and soon enough

00:38:32.000 The foreigners might not want to buy our assets because they're losing value by buying things that are losing value in their own currencies because of the fall of the dollar.

00:38:40.000 So we have a widespread of real economic and financial trouble ahead of us.

00:38:46.000 As an economist, as a forecaster, on the good side, how do you see this playing out?

00:38:52.000 What, a one, two, three year recession?

00:38:54.000 On the bad side, you talk about total economic meltdown.

00:38:58.000 Can you talk about what the good side might look like from your past experience versus the bad side?

00:39:04.000 Well, for the time being, I'm quite pessimistic.

00:39:06.000 I believe that this recession has already started, and only started, so it's going to last longer than the previous two ones.

00:39:13.000 The last is only eight months.

00:39:14.000 It's going to be more like 12 to 18 months, so there is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to be after we've had a massive increase in unemployment, losses of jobs, of incomes, these financial losses are going to spread from one part to the other of the credit markets and the financial system.

00:39:33.000 On the good side is that now Washington is getting it and the Fed is getting it, so there is a stimulus with the Fed reducing interest rates quite aggressively.

00:39:43.000 There's been a fiscal stimulus in terms of this package that was passed by Congress, but all these things are not enough because there are millions of houses that are now underwater.

00:39:53.000 The value of their homes is less than the value of their mortgages and therefore they have a huge incentive to walk away.

00:40:00.000 We'll have to think about some policy that's going to keep people in their homes and reduce the number of foreclosures because potentially you have something like 15 to 20 million households who might be underwater and might essentially bankrupt and default on their mortgages.

00:40:16.000 So we need a plan and that plan is not yet in Congress on how to deal and avoid this massive tsunami of defaults and foreclosures ahead of us.

00:40:25.000 Well, you're a highly respected professor and professor.

00:40:31.000 There are several things you can do.

00:40:32.000 We probably need not just to freeze the reset of some of the mortgages, but we need them across the board, the freezing of that.

00:40:42.000 you're doing?

00:40:43.000 There are several things you can do.

00:40:46.000 We probably need not just to freeze the reset of some of the mortgages, but we need an across-the-board freezing of that.

00:40:54.000 We need to stop for a closure, not just for 30 days, but probably for at least six months.

00:41:00.000 We might need to change our bankruptcy laws in ways that the bankruptcy judge can cram down and force a reduction in the value of the mortgages as part of the restructuring of the debt of those who cannot pay their bills.

00:41:15.000 So there are many things we can do in terms of trying to reduce the amount of financial distress for the houses that are now going bankrupt or in foreclosure.

00:41:24.000 That's what we need to do.

00:41:28.000 The Financial Times talks about the 12 stages.

00:41:32.000 Can you mention some of the most important?

00:41:35.000 How far into those 12 different events we are that could cause a meltdown?

00:41:40.000 And what do you think the percentage chance is we're going to have a huge meltdown versus just a deep recession?

00:41:48.000 I worry about the financial meltdown because we've never seen such a severe crunch in financial and credit markets for the last 30 years or so.

00:41:56.000 I'm not going to enumerate every step, but of those 12 steps, I think that the first one is that the housing recession is getting worse rather than better.

00:42:06.000 Home prices are falling now at a rate that's going to be closer to 20% when everything happens.

00:42:12.000 We have now these problems in mortgages spreading from subprime to near prime to prime.

00:42:17.000 We have commercial real estate now being in trouble.

00:42:19.000 We have consumer credit with auto loans, credit cards, and student loans being in trouble.

00:42:25.000 We have all these leveraged loans that finance all these leveraged buyouts that are now getting in trouble.

00:42:30.000 And most importantly, soon enough, many corporations are going to go bankrupt because they have lots of debt and they're going to start having losses.

00:42:39.000 The rate of defaults by corporations in the last two, three years was very, very low.

00:42:43.000 While in a typical recession, it spikes to 15% of corporate bonds going into default.

00:42:49.000 And when these corporates go into bankruptcy, then they fire workers, they don't invest.

00:42:53.000 and that creates even more kind of negative effects on the economy.

00:42:57.000 And finally, you'll have a very significant bearish market in equities that's going to happen in the next few months as we are going into a recession, and you'll have, you know, fire sales of assets in distressed situations.

00:43:08.000 So those are some of the important steps that lead to a systemic financial crisis.

00:43:12.000 Professor Robini, Professor Robini, did you see the Financial Times of London story six months ago where it said big central banks and the highest tier of the financial order actually stand to gain from this because they get to have that fire sale and consolidate up all the other banks and brokerage firms and stocks, did you see the Financial Times of London story six months ago where it said big central Or is this a core crisis at the highest levels?

00:43:40.000 I think it's a core crisis of the highest levels, because even some of the largest financial institutions have had dozens of billions of dollars of losses.

00:43:50.000 The biggest bank in the U.S., Citibank, or many of the other large broker-dealers have had massive losses, Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns.

00:44:00.000 So it's not just the 200 subprime mortgage lenders have gone belly up and out of business, we have the risk that some major financial institutions might also go belly up.

00:44:11.000 So it's really across the board.

00:44:13.000 From my understanding, in the early 1990s, we saw massive regulatory loosening of regulations to where banks could just basically certify their own loans, go way past the 1-10 rule of fractional reserve banking. go way past the 1-10 rule of fractional reserve banking.

00:44:35.000 Was it just greed that brought us to this?

00:44:38.000 Thank you.

00:44:39.000 It's a combination of greed in financial markets and the total absence of appropriate supervision and regulation of mortgage lending and of the financial system.

00:44:50.000 The regulators were asleep at the wheel because there was an ideology in Washington for the last six years of just free market fundamentalism.

00:44:59.000 Really reckless lending practices like a zero down payment when you get a mortgage or no verification of your income or assets or jobs, these liar loans or interest rate only mortgages or negative amortization or these teaser rates for two years.

00:45:15.000 All this stuff that was really reckless and dangerous and predatory was allowed because regulators did not care.

00:45:23.000 I mean, Greenspan himself was the biggest chief leader of this kind of financial innovation in mortgages and subprime.

00:45:30.000 So the Fed, the regulators, and many others are in part to blame because the financial market that doesn't have institutional rules and regulations is like the jungle because greed dominates.

00:45:41.000 Do you agree with Joseph Stiglitz' speech a few days ago that was widely carried where he is really blaming Greenspan for a lot of this?

00:45:50.000 That sounds like what you were just doing.

00:45:52.000 Yeah, I mean Greenspan and the Fed were part of the problem for two reasons.

00:45:56.000 One, the Fed reduced during the last recession the Fed funds rate to 1% and kept it too low for too long and that fed the housing bubble and Greenspan and the Fed and the other regulators ignored these kind of reckless lending practices.

00:46:12.000 They were occurring mortgages and credit markets and not only ignored it, but they were cheap leading and saying these are great innovations.

00:46:18.000 So certainly Greenspan is partly to blame for it. 0.98

00:46:22.000 But they're not stupid.

00:46:23.000 I mean, I remember people 20 years ago, 15 years ago, when they started changing all these rules, phasing them in, Ron Paul was saying 20 years ago that this was going to happen, and he even predicted that it would happen in the 2000s. 0.83

00:46:36.000 And so, I mean, they just recklessly did this?

00:46:41.000 You don't think they had any premeditated idea to just pump out all this liquidity, then they would make personal profits and then leave us with the bag?

00:46:50.000 Certainly, some financial institutions, there was this kind of wrong incentive.

00:46:55.000 They knew that they were gambling for redemption, making risky loans, and then when things go wrong, maybe the Fed comes and eases monetary policy or bails them out.

00:47:05.000 So that's part of the problem with people, economists refer to it as moral hazard.

00:47:09.000 When you have insurance, your behavior is going to be dangerous and reckless.

00:47:13.000 And there is even now expectation in Wall Street of banks and investors are being bailed out by the Fed or by the government.

00:47:20.000 There are already plans for bailing out financial institutions from their own trouble.

00:47:24.000 That would be wrong.

00:47:27.000 Well, I'd like to know why you say it's wrong.

00:47:28.000 I agree with you, because they're going to bail it out by further inflating the currency, which then causes other countries to stop buying the federal securities, which further destroys the country, doesn't it?

00:47:41.000 Yeah, one of the risks of what's happening right now is that certainly the Fed is now forced to reduce interest rates as a way to avoid a more severe recession, but with lower interest rates, the value of the dollar is falling.

00:47:53.000 The historical levels are low, and that fall of the value of the dollar is going to make The value of goods we import from the rest of the world is more expensive and that's going to feed inflation and that's something we should worry about.

00:48:05.000 And it may lead also foreigners not to want to invest in our securities and we need their financing because we are still running an $800 billion current account deficit.

00:48:14.000 So a fall that is disorderly of the dollar and a rise in inflation is one of the risks of the mess that we have created.

00:48:22.000 Professor Robini, you've written a book that I've read excerpts of, including bailouts or bail-ins, responding to financial crises in emerging economies, political cycles, and it goes on from there.

00:48:34.000 This looks like gunboat diplomacy to me, where the big central banks go in and loan money to third world countries, wink-wink, the dictator doesn't pay it off, and they come in and seize the assets.

00:48:44.000 This just looks like they're treating the U.S. 0.55

00:48:46.000 like a third-world nation, literally strip-mining us, as you said, predatorily, creating a cycle where they get all the power and then implode the economy and pick up the pieces, but you're saying it's also now endangering them. 0.98

00:49:00.000 Have they gotten so greedy and so predatory that they may fall into the pit that they dug?

00:49:05.000 Well, you know, they might be greedy, but part of the problem is we created this mess ourselves.

00:49:11.000 We've spent the last ten years spending more than our income and running a current account deficit, and therefore we have to finance it by foreigners buying and lending us money.

00:49:21.000 Until recently, the foreigners were willing to just buy low-yielding treasury bills.

00:49:25.000 Now they've gotten tired.

00:49:26.000 They said if we have to finance the United States, want to buy your land, your firms, your gems, your real assets, and that's the phenomenon of these sovereign wealth funds that are now putting hundreds of billions of money into the U.S. equity market or into buying U.S. corporations.

00:49:44.000 The problem is there is a debtor.

00:49:44.000 But isn't it only...

00:49:45.000 If you have to borrow, you cannot be too choosy on whether you're going to borrow in the form of debt or equity, and foreigners now are selling, telling us we're tired of having low-yielding tibios.

00:49:55.000 We want your assets.

00:49:56.000 And they're right.

00:49:57.000 We'll tighten our belt before we can say anything to the foreigners. 1.00

00:50:02.000 Well, that's the same thing, though.

00:50:03.000 A lot of those sovereign wealth, you know, rich elites in Europe, they're the very ones that gave political contributions to the groups that loosened all of the regulatory precautions.

00:50:15.000 Yeah, I mean, there were lobbies.

00:50:17.000 They were mostly domestic.

00:50:18.000 There were also some foreign ones.

00:50:20.000 Certainly the lobbies for the financial institutions created this mess in which they said, don't mess with the financial system, don't regulate, don't supervise, market knows best, and unfortunately in financial systems, if you don't have rules and regulations, it's a lot of the jungle, because the greed is the main driver of the decisions of investors, and you need to control that.

00:50:40.000 Noriel Rubini, professor of economics, PhD, advises the US government, We've got a quick break and then five minutes on the other side.

00:50:48.000 Please stay there, Professor.

00:50:49.000 I want to come back and talk about how what's happening in the U.S.

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00:54:01.000 Noriel Roubini, PhD professor of economics.

00:54:13.000 Heads up, RGEMonitor.com.

00:54:18.000 One of the premier sites out there analyzing global trends in the economy.

00:54:23.000 He's also an author.

00:54:27.000 Put a link up to him on InfoWars.com.

00:54:29.000 We've only got a few minutes left with you, sir.

00:54:32.000 I hope to have you back up in the future.

00:54:33.000 We're honored to have you.

00:54:36.000 In the College of Professors, with your colleagues there in New York and around the world, just a guesstimation, what percentage are saying we're going to have a meltdown, or a great danger of a meltdown, versus we're just in a recession, versus those that say we're not in a recession, that we're in a wonderful economy?

00:54:56.000 Unfortunately, a majority of professional economists and forecasters are still deluding themselves that we're not going to have a recession.

00:55:06.000 So those who are actually claiming we're going to have a recession are still a minority.

00:55:11.000 Unfortunately, of course, they're not talking to the average American because the recession has already started.

00:55:16.000 You know, every economic indicator you look at shows a downward trend in economic activity, demand, production, employment, sales, and you name it.

00:55:26.000 I think that there is kind of like a disconnect between those who are forecasters and those who are living households in terms of what the economy is.

00:55:35.000 Well, we've got these forecasters that work for big companies that want to keep putting out the good word, and isn't that political?

00:55:42.000 They don't want the political blame, so they're just telling people, you're delusional, the economy's great.

00:55:47.000 That's part of it.

00:55:48.000 Part of it is also that, you know, many of these financial institutions are underwriting stocks and bonds and they don't want their chief economists to say we have a recession.

00:55:58.000 So, you know, there is a little bit of a bias or self-censorship.

00:56:03.000 They are not going to be the first ones to claim that we're in trouble because their entire business model is based on an economy that's growing.

00:56:12.000 Absolutely.

00:56:13.000 You know, the U.S.

00:56:15.000 is about 30% of the global economy, and unfortunately when the U.S.

00:56:17.000 same crisis in Europe and then that has ripple effects doesn't it absolutely you know us is about 30 percent of the global economy and unfortunately when the US sneezes the rest of the world gets gets the cold, and this time around the U.S. is not just going to sneeze.

00:56:34.000 It's going to be a severe and protracted case of pneumonia, and therefore the rest of the world is going to be very negatively affected in terms of their own economic condition and growth by a severe U.S. recession.

00:56:46.000 Just give us a ballpark number.

00:56:50.000 10% chance of total meltdown, 20%, 30%, and what will a meltdown look like if it does happen?

00:57:00.000 A meltdown would take the form of a very severe recession that lasts at least a year and a half or two, in which the financial losses in the financial system are going to be over a trillion dollars and in which millions of households are going to lose their homes.

00:57:15.000 I think that's a good question.

00:57:16.000 I think that there is at least a 50-50% probability that scenario would happen at this point.

00:57:24.000 And then there's the cascading effect with all this inflation.

00:57:27.000 People on fixed incomes are now starting already to become homeless.

00:57:30.000 We see tent cities popping up everywhere.

00:57:32.000 I mean, if Bush says this is a boom economy, I'd hate to see a recession.

00:57:37.000 Yeah, in a recession people lose jobs, incomes are not growing, and inflation now is going up.

00:57:42.000 So it's a major squeeze, and certainly those that are at the bottom of the income distribution, who have not done very well in the last few years, are going to suffer even more.

00:57:51.000 The poor, the homeless, the people who have a lower income.

00:57:55.000 And it's going to affect even the middle class.

00:57:56.000 Today there is a middle class malaise because cost of education, cost of health care, cost of energy, everything is going up in price and incomes are not growing very much, so it's not just the working class, it's also the middle classes that are squeezed.

00:58:11.000 Rgemonitor.com, Norio Rubini, we really appreciate you spending time with us, sir.

00:58:20.000 Thank you.

00:58:21.000 Pleasure being with you today.

00:58:22.000 Take care.

00:58:24.000 Alright, we'll be right back.

00:58:25.000 Let's go ahead and get the next guest on. 0.92

00:58:26.000 I want to immediately get into GMOs and how deadly they are.

00:58:29.000 You're going to hear information you think you know.

00:58:31.000 No, it's far worse.

00:58:33.000 Coming up, and then we've got Daniel Esselin popping back in.

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00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.

00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 We just had a top economist on, advisor to the Treasury and the White House, admitting that we have a 50% chance of a total economic meltdown.

00:59:23.000 And we're not trying to scare you, we're not trying to be negative here.

00:59:29.000 We're positive.

00:59:30.000 If we know bad things are going on, we can warn you about them.

00:59:35.000 And, you know, we can tell you if we get into gold when it's $300 an ounce, and now it's $980 an ounce.

00:59:40.000 I mean, we've got a track record here.

00:59:44.000 Our predictions, our info, we know what we're talking about.

00:59:47.000 Now, this is some really scary news, but the good news is, led by people like our guest, Jeffrey M. Smith, We are fighting back.

00:59:58.000 Good things are happening.

00:59:59.000 But first I want to give you the bad news.

01:00:01.000 And then I want to give you the good news about GMO.

01:00:04.000 Now, I've heard him on the radio.

01:00:05.000 I've read some of his writings.

01:00:07.000 I've ordered his book.

01:00:09.000 But if it's anything like his info, it's all accurate.

01:00:11.000 Because I study this all the time.

01:00:14.000 But then I get up here, and it's so much info, it's hard to spend my time articulating it.

01:00:17.000 We've had Nobel Prize winners, top scientists on.

01:00:20.000 That's where I learned everything that I heard Jeffrey Smith talking about.

01:00:23.000 I can just tell you, this guy's accurate.

01:00:24.000 He just doesn't have my knowledge.

01:00:26.000 He goes well past that.

01:00:27.000 So I want to make him a regular part of this show.

01:00:30.000 This is a short segment.

01:00:30.000 We're about to break.

01:00:32.000 But Jeffrey, in the time we've got before the break, tell us a little bit about yourself, your mission, your films, your books, what you're doing.

01:00:39.000 Great.

01:00:40.000 I'm the Executive Director of the Institute for Responsible Technology.

01:00:44.000 And I've written the books Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette.

01:00:48.000 We're leading campaigns that we believe can end the genetic engineering of the food supply by informing consumers about the health dangers associated with genetically engineered foods and giving them non-GMO shopping guides so they can make healthier, non-GM choices.

01:01:04.000 And you've got a couple different websites.

01:01:05.000 Tell us about those.

01:01:06.000 Well, seedsofdeception.com is one of our websites.

01:01:11.000 It has products, downloads, free and our Institute for Responsible Technology is at responsibletechnology.org.

01:01:19.000 And they link to each other, so if you just remember one, you'll get to the other.

01:01:23.000 And you can sign up for a free monthly e-newsletter, listen to an hour-long talk, watch a sample video.

01:01:29.000 We have the most recent book that I've written.

01:01:32.000 It's called Genetic Roulette. 0.97

01:01:34.000 And I worked with more than 30 scientists over two years to document all of the known health risks of genetically engineered foods.

01:01:40.000 Well, see, I'm an addict of reading, you know, all the scientific papers and even peer-reviewed studies, not just the news articles about them.

01:01:47.000 And listening to you on radio and reading your writings, it's like, oh, I remember that, I remember that, I remember that.

01:01:52.000 And I was shocked at all the stuff I'd forgotten, the incredible admissions they've made, and that as bad as I thought it was, it was even more crazy.

01:02:00.000 Because you kind of put it all into picture.

01:02:03.000 When you put it all together and you read it together, you read thousands of sick, sterile and dead livestock, thousands of toxic and allergic reactions, damage to virtually every organ and every system studied in laboratory animals, and then there's all sorts of assumptions that they used as a basis for safety claims, which turned out to be false.

01:02:22.000 So taken together, we have irrefutable, overwhelming evidence of harm associated with these genetically modified foods.

01:02:29.000 Well, we're going to break and we're going to come back.

01:02:31.000 We've got a long segment coming up.

01:02:32.000 I want you to give us the basic history of it and then go right through how, when they change one gene randomly, and I've had Nobel Prize winners on about this subject who have been at this,

01:02:42.000 It randomly changes thousands of others each time there's a new generation of the plant, new amino acids, you know, killing half the mice that were fed it, you know, knowing it's doing it, putting it on the market, genetically engineered pesticides into the food, all the numbers of the milk, the girls at three going into puberty, I mean, this is a holocaust! 0.89

01:03:05.000 I mean, we cannot, I think with words, sir, describe just how bad it is.

01:03:10.000 Well, it is pretty remarkable what a catastrophe our food supply is, and the biggest, most radical change in history is the genetic engineering of the food supply, which came under the radar in 1996, big time.

01:03:22.000 I agree, and I've interviewed so many experts from so many different fields, and from all of my 13 years of interviewing people on a host of subjects, they believe that genetic engineering That is the potentially most dangerous thing we face.

01:03:36.000 More dangerous than thermal nuclear weapons.

01:03:39.000 We'll be right back.

01:03:40.000 And there's no controls, folks.

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01:07:31.000 Okay, the FDA should have been pretty heads up about this in the 1980s when a genetically engineered food supplement called L-tryptophan ended up killing about 100 Americans and causing 5 to 10,000 to fall sick.

01:07:43.000 Many are still permanently disabled.

01:07:45.000 Only the brand that was genetically engineered to produce this food supplement had these deadly contaminants that caused this epidemic.

01:07:53.000 The only reason the scientists were able to discover it was because the disease was rare, acute, and came on quickly.

01:07:59.000 If all three characteristics had not been in place, that same deadly L-tryptophan might still be on the market.

01:08:05.000 Which begs the question, what about the genetically engineered crops that are on the market?

01:08:09.000 Might they be producing the doubling of food-related illnesses in the United States, or asthma and allergies, etc.?

01:08:15.000 We don't know because there's no post-marketing surveillance, no human clinical trials.

01:08:19.000 In fact, the FDA had urged their superiors, the scientists, we know this from documents made public from a lawsuit, their scientists had urged their superiors to require long-term safety studies because they said genetically engineered foods could create allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems.

01:08:36.000 But the White House had instructed the FDA to promote the biotechnology industry in 1992, and the person in charge of policy at the FDA was a former attorney of biotech giant Monsanto and later Monsanto's Vice President.

01:08:52.000 So the policy ignored the scientists, it ignored the science and allowed the foods on the market with absolutely no safety tests required.

01:09:00.000 The FDA only has a voluntary consultation process in which the companies basically give summary data and don't actually give raw feeding study data or anything that can actually evaluate safety.

01:09:12.000 Only one company gave raw feeding study data.

01:09:15.000 It was for a genetically engineered tomato.

01:09:18.000 It turns out That when it was forced fed the tomatoes, because the rats actually refused to eat it, 7 of 40 died within two weeks.

01:09:26.000 Another 7 of 20 had stomach lesions.

01:09:29.000 In the UK, they wanted to do long-term safety studies to prove to consumers that GM foods were safe, so they gave a $3 million grant to Dr. Arpad Poosthai, one of the world's leading scientists in his field.

01:09:41.000 He fed supposedly harmless genetically engineered potatoes to rats.

01:09:46.000 It caused potentially precancerous cell growth in the digestive tract. 0.96

01:09:49.000 Smaller brains, livers, and testicles.

01:09:51.000 Partial atrophy of the liver. 0.82

01:09:53.000 Damaged immune system.

01:09:54.000 And this was because of the process of genetic engineering itself, not the particular change that they made for the potato.

01:10:01.000 He went public with his concerns, was a hero for about two days at his prestigious institute, and then two phone calls were allegedly placed from the UK Prime Minister's office forwarded through the receptionist to the director of the institute.

01:10:12.000 The next morning, Dr. Pustai was fired from his job after 35 years and silenced with threats of a lawsuit.

01:10:19.000 His 20-member research team was dismantled, and they never implemented the long-term safety testing protocol.

01:10:24.000 But now he's been vindicated.

01:10:26.000 We've interviewed him several times.

01:10:27.000 Now the studies have come out that was right, and he said half the rats that were fed the potato died.

01:10:31.000 I'm going from memory there.

01:10:32.000 Well, in his case, in his particular study, there were no deaths, but there was another study that was done recently on rats, And they were fed genetically engineered soybeans That was the one?

01:10:43.000 Yeah, Russian National Academy of Sciences.

01:10:45.000 And they fed it to female adult rats, and it turned out more than half of the offspring died within the first three weeks.

01:10:54.000 So the rats themselves that ate it didn't die, but the offspring died.

01:10:57.000 Also, the offspring were on average much smaller, and they couldn't reproduce when they tried to mate them together.

01:11:04.000 This woman who I was in a conference call with yesterday, with the Ukraine, with a biosafety presentation.

01:11:11.000 She describes how she did this study three times in a row with similar results and then for some reason the rat food that was being bought by the Institute and all of the rats turned out to switch to genetically engineered soy-based rat food.

01:11:27.000 So she couldn't do any more studies but after two months of feeding all of the rats in the facility genetically engineered soy-based rat food, she asked her colleagues, what's the infant mortality?

01:11:38.000 It had shot up to over 55 percent, suggesting that it wasn't just her particular batch of GM soy that caused the problem, but it's generic.

01:11:46.000 In fact, when they fed GM soy to mice, they looked at the testicles and they found that there was changes in the young sperm cell.

01:11:54.000 They looked at the embryos when the parent mice were fed GM soy, and the embryo's DNA acted differently.

01:12:00.000 When this Russian scientist fed rats to... fed male rats GM soy, The testicles turned dark blue instead of pink, and the whole self-structure looked different. 0.73

01:12:10.000 I gotta stop you for a minute, and we've interviewed that scientist you mentioned and many others.

01:12:14.000 The point here is this stuff's been approved, humans are eating this, and lo and behold, we see fertility plummeting, we see all the same things.

01:12:22.000 God, I can't believe that this is happening, and I can't believe these companies have done this!

01:12:28.000 It's remarkable, you know, when you look at their goals.

01:12:33.000 Arthur Anderson Consulting Worked with Monsanto early on and they bragged in 1999 in January conference about how they worked with Monsanto executives.

01:12:42.000 They asked the executives to describe their ideal future in 15 to 20 years.

01:12:46.000 And the Monsanto executives described a world in which 100% of all commercial seeds were genetically engineered and patented.

01:12:53.000 And Anderson Consulting worked backwards from that goal to create the strategy and tactics to achieve it.

01:12:58.000 So they have very large goals.

01:13:01.000 The takeover of the food supply on Earth.

01:13:04.000 Now we do specifically from the scientists in the studies know what it does because every time they change one gene to make a potato last longer or taste better or whatever the case may be by adding insectoid genetics or mammal or other plant genetics, then it's, and I'd like you to elaborate on this, it then is a, like you say, genetic roulette.

01:13:24.000 Randomly thousands of things each generation change And can you get into that?

01:13:30.000 We'll come back to some of the other health risks about the thousands of dead animals.

01:13:30.000 Sure.

01:13:34.000 Well, I mean, do that now if you want.

01:13:35.000 Go ahead.

01:13:36.000 Actually, let's go, let's alter them.

01:13:36.000 Oh, either way.

01:13:38.000 I think your question is excellent.

01:13:39.000 The process of genetic engineering, people think it's just splicing it in precisely.

01:13:44.000 What they do is they take, let's say they take a gene that produces its own pesticide out of soil bacteria.

01:13:49.000 They take that gene, make millions of copies, make some changes in it, add a promoter from a virus to turn it on 24-7 around the And then they put it into a gene gun.

01:13:59.000 They actually shoot the gun into millions of cells, hoping that some of the genes make it into the DNA of some of the cells.

01:14:06.000 And then only a few of them actually get the genes, which they then grow that cell into a plant using cloning, or tissue culture.

01:14:14.000 Now the process of inserting the gene, and the process of cloning the cell into a plant, both create massive collateral damage in the DNA.

01:14:25.000 We're talking 2-4% difference of the DNA after it's been genetically engineered compared to before it started.

01:14:32.000 So we're talking any particular mutation, any single point mutation could have deadly consequences.

01:14:39.000 We're talking about hundreds or thousands of mutations.

01:14:41.000 And one food plant might have 50-60 different chimeras where they're already splicing other organisms and then splicing that and then sticking viruses on top and then firing it in randomly.

01:14:53.000 We're probably already doomed!

01:14:55.000 Well, it turns out soon after GM soy was introduced to the UK, soy allergies skyrocketed by 50%.

01:15:01.000 No follow-up studies were done.

01:15:04.000 So, when you look at all of the studies together and say, well, how could a genetically engineered soybean increase allergies, it turns out there are many candidates.

01:15:13.000 This process of disrupting the DNA caused an increase of a known allergen in soybeans, up to seven times higher in cooked soy, according to Monsanto's own study.

01:15:25.000 They also did a skin prick test with individuals and at least one person had a reaction only to the genetically modified soy and not to natural soy.

01:15:34.000 They then looked into the soybean and found that there was a completely new and unexpected protein, also likely from this result of massive collateral damage, and that new protein was allergenic.

01:15:45.000 And then by the way, we see studies all the time where they're growing this stuff open air and it's now jumping into other plants.

01:15:51.000 Oh yeah, don't get me started on that.

01:15:52.000 That's the worst problem.

01:15:53.000 We're taking self-generating, self-propagating genetic pollution and putting it into the environment where we have no technology to recall it.

01:16:00.000 And never before vandalizing the very genetic code of the biosphere, because these are systems that never occurred over millions of years of natural development.

01:16:10.000 Now it's just randomly invading.

01:16:12.000 Good God.

01:16:12.000 It's beautifully said.

01:16:13.000 And not only that, but the genes we introduce today may outlast the effects of nuclear waste.

01:16:19.000 I mean, they are self-propagating, possibly for the rest of our biosphere's life.

01:16:24.000 And already replicating and merging and already causing... I mean, this is insane!

01:16:29.000 Just to finish up with the allergies, because I know there's a lot of allergy sufferers listening, and they may want to know if these things are safe or not.

01:16:36.000 That's why it's growing.

01:16:37.000 Yes.

01:16:39.000 I talked to one allergist, by the way.

01:16:40.000 He said, I used to do tests for soy allergies all the time, but now that it's genetically engineered, it's so dangerous, I tell my patients never to even try it.

01:16:48.000 Unless it's organic and non-GMO.

01:16:50.000 So there's another thing is that the reason why 80% of all genetically engineered foods are created, and there's only four major crops, soy, corn, cotton, and canola, and all four have been engineered not to die when sprayed with the company's herbicide.

01:17:06.000 So if you spray a natural soy plant with Roundup herbicide, you'll kill it.

01:17:10.000 But if you spray genetically engineered roundup ready soy or cotton or canola or corn, then it will not die.

01:17:18.000 It's just all the rest of the biodiversity and weeds and plants in the field will die.

01:17:23.000 Now, that means that we pour lots more herbicide on these crops.

01:17:27.000 And then when you ingest them, you ingest higher levels of this herbicide, which also might cause reaction.

01:17:34.000 In addition, mice that were fed genetically engineered soy had problems with their livers, suggesting that there was a toxic insult, and their pancreas cells had changes which reduced the amount of enzymes needed to digest food.

01:17:49.000 And we now similarly see all sorts of previously rare cancers skyrocketing, juvenile onset of all these cancers, mimicking what we see in the lab animals.

01:17:59.000 And any one of which could easily be from genetically engineered foods, because it's totally a genetic roulette.

01:18:04.000 One of the things is, when you insert this gene cassette, which they blast into the crop, you have what's called a promoter, an on-switch, which can not only just turn on this foreign gene, but it might switch on any other gene in the DNA permanently, causing it to overproduce.

01:18:21.000 And that's why it's affecting embryos in mammals?

01:18:24.000 Well, I mean, we don't actually know why it's affected.

01:18:27.000 We know it has affected it, but the problem is, there's not enough studies to identify the causation.

01:18:32.000 Good God, this... And when we get back, they're now expanding it out into every crop you can imagine.

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01:23:31.000 By the way, I should have mentioned, our guest has the best-selling book worldwide on genetically engineered foods.

01:23:39.000 This is stuff that I've ordered, I'm getting, and I'm going to read it all.

01:23:43.000 I mean, I try to keep my children off this.

01:23:47.000 I try to stay away from myself, but it's so hard.

01:23:49.000 We have to.

01:23:51.000 That will force the change in the industries, but they're striking back, and so our guest can tell us about that.

01:23:56.000 Tell us about your best-selling book and how folks get that.

01:24:00.000 Well, Seeds of Deception is the book.

01:24:01.000 It's at seedsofdeception.com.

01:24:04.000 And it's sort of, I decided to weave the science of genetic engineering into the stories of how scientists were fired, stripped of responsibilities, forced out, how regulatory agencies were hijacked by the biotech industry, offered bribes, stalked with people with the biotech company's own personnel, how they rigged research, how Fox TV reporters were

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01:24:51.000 So I dug out the dark underbelly of GMOs and turned them into a series of stories And I weave the science into those stories so people can understand the risks that these foods present.

01:25:03.000 Now, GMOs are obviously the most dangerous, but just going back to with what Searle did when they had good old Rumsfeld, it was later at Monsanto running it, and almost all, and I've read the study on air, almost all the monkeys they gave aspartame to, the baby monkeys died, and they still approved it!

01:25:22.000 I mean, it's like, and so out of that culture grows this.

01:25:26.000 In fact, the aspartame is the product of genetically engineered microorganisms, so it is in the category that I report on.

01:25:34.000 Well, let's try to spend some time on that.

01:25:36.000 I'm sad we only have an hour with you today.

01:25:37.000 Please continue with the health effects you were getting into.

01:25:41.000 Okay, there's at least two more major categories I want to discuss.

01:25:47.000 One is there's two traits that are genetically engineered.

01:25:51.000 We already talked about herbicide tolerance, the ability to spray a genetically engineered crop with herbicide and not kill it.

01:25:57.000 The other is there's about 20% of the crops are engineered to produce their own insecticide in every cell and in every bite.

01:26:04.000 It's called BT for Bacillus thuringiensis.

01:26:07.000 It's used in organic agriculture in its natural form as a bacteria, but it's not necessarily safe.

01:26:15.000 In fact, if you ask the biotech industry and the Food and Drug Administration, the EPA, about BT toxin, they say, oh, no, don't worry about it.

01:26:24.000 It has a history of safe use.

01:26:25.000 It's used in organic agriculture.

01:26:27.000 Well, they ignore the fact that about 500 Americans and Canadians had allergic reactions when it was used for spraying gypsy moth infestation. 0.99

01:26:35.000 They ignore the fact that when BT toxin was fed to mice, The mice had damaged intestines and an immune response as powerful as cholera toxin.

01:26:44.000 But plus, it's been genetically altered and put inside, not a little bit of fungus on the outside.

01:26:49.000 Exactly, and it's designed to be in concentrations thousands of times greater than in the spray form.

01:26:56.000 It's designed to be more toxic than the spray form.

01:26:58.000 It has properties of a known allergen.

01:27:01.000 And so, they just put it in the food supply and assume it's safe, and don't do any testing on human beings to find out if it's safe.

01:27:08.000 Now, I want to be clear.

01:27:09.000 Allergen, we've been desensitized to that term, like, oh, it's an allergy.

01:27:12.000 An allergy is when your body is fighting against something, saying, this is hurting me.

01:27:17.000 And that's what's happening now with Indian farm workers who are picking genetically engineered cotton, engineered to produce this BT toxin. 1.00

01:27:25.000 Just by touching the cotton, by loading it onto trucks, by leaning against it, They're developing allergic reactions, some having to go to the hospital.

01:27:33.000 And the allergic symptoms are exactly the same as those of the 500 Americans and Canadians who complained of allergic reactions when they were sprayed with the BT in its natural form.

01:27:44.000 Then in India, they allow sheep to graze on the cotton plants after harvest, and within a week of grazing, one out of every four sheep are dead.

01:27:53.000 An estimated 10,000 sheep died in the region.

01:27:56.000 Now you also have the fact that genetic engineering causes unpredicted side effects in the growing.

01:28:01.000 And so, they convinced thousands and thousands of cotton farmers to plant Monsanto's genetically engineered cotton.

01:28:07.000 The cotton failed in many parts, and tens of thousands have committed suicide as a result of being indebted and not being able to pay back their loans.

01:28:17.000 In fact, the BT corn, the corn engineered to produce this toxin, has been associated by farmers with thousands of sterile pigs, Hundreds of sterile cows... Well, most of the farmers I talk to say their animals won't even eat it, unless you mix it in with some sugar.

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01:32:14.000 I'm going to ask our prestigious guest about how they're testing and using hundreds of different genetically engineered bacteria and viruses in the oceans for spills, chemical spills and things.

01:32:25.000 Also, callers are calling and wanting to know about the Doomsday Vault.

01:32:29.000 So we'll get his take on that.

01:32:30.000 The elite definitely know what's happening.

01:32:33.000 Before we go back to our author, An expert we're interviewing on one of the most important subjects we could discuss.

01:32:40.000 I've got a challenge.

01:32:41.000 You know, growing up, my parents sponsored two different children through Children International.

01:32:48.000 My uncle for more than, and aunt for more than 12 years, sponsored a young child, and they know people involved with Children International, so I've taken up their challenge in the next month to get 200 children sponsored.

01:33:03.000 Now, I am looking at sponsoring.

01:33:05.000 I meant to do it yesterday, because we just took this challenge up yesterday.

01:33:08.000 I've got an app for the show today going there, and you can even sponsor kids in the U.S.

01:33:12.000 The difference is you can't learn their identity for some reason.

01:33:15.000 You do get the letters from them and the photos from kids in the third world, but I'm going to sponsor a kid in the U.S., and I'm going to sponsor someone in the third world, probably Africa, because that's the worst hit, though they all need it.

01:33:27.000 I mean, I'm on the Children International site right now.

01:33:29.000 You go to InfoWars.com and link through to our challenge page.

01:33:33.000 Uh, Ellie desperately needs your help for the next 10 minutes. 1.00

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01:33:53.000 Go look at these children.

01:33:54.000 And again, a lot of charities are bad.

01:33:58.000 We've talked about that.

01:33:59.000 Children International is good.

01:34:01.000 Like a few others.

01:34:03.000 And they really help these children.

01:34:06.000 The IMF, the World Bank, they're not there to help them.

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01:34:10.000 But Children International is there to help them.

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01:34:24.000 As tough as it is financially here in the U.S.

01:34:28.000 Uh, it's a lot tougher in the third world.

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01:35:06.000 Okay, going back to our guest.

01:35:10.000 Best-selling author Jeffrey M. Schmitt, Seeds of Deception, now Genetic Roulette.

01:35:15.000 Please continue, sir.

01:35:16.000 Well, you made a very good point about some of the people you talked to describe how animals will not eat genetically engineered feed when given the choice.

01:35:25.000 We've seen that with geese, cows, pigs, elk, deer, raccoons, squirrels, mice, and rats.

01:35:35.000 So it's my job to get people up to the level of animals.

01:35:38.000 And I teach people how to avoid it.

01:35:39.000 It's on my website at seedsofdeception.com.

01:35:42.000 One of the most shocking results that really motivate people to avoid eating genetically engineered foods came in the only human feeding experiment ever conducted on GMOs.

01:35:55.000 Now, this was to determine whether or not genes survive digestion, because this was a big concern among the FDA.

01:36:04.000 In fact, the British Medical Association, which called for a moratorium GMOs linked this as one of the reasons.

01:36:10.000 They were concerned that genes from genetically engineered plants might transfer into the DNA of human gut bacteria.

01:36:19.000 Now what they were concerned about was the antibiotic resistant marker gene that's used in GM crops that could end up creating bacterial diseases that are accidentally engineered to withstand medicines, to withstand antibiotics.

01:36:36.000 And so The biotech industry told the FDA, oh don't worry, genes are destroyed during digestion, transfer into the DNA of human gut bacteria is not possible.

01:36:47.000 So they took seven, after years and years, late in 2002, they finally did a test.

01:36:53.000 They took seven human volunteers, and these volunteers had colostomy bags, they had their lower intestines removed, not for the study, and they fed them genetically engineered soy burgers and soy milkshakes, and they found, to their surprise, How much intact genetically engineered soy had survived digestion through the stomach and small intestine and ended up in the colostomy bag?

01:37:16.000 Well look at the Crohn's-type diseases are exploding.

01:37:18.000 Everybody I know seems to have intestinal problems and then the universities in Germany found what's killing the honeybees predominantly is that this bacteria that has been genetically engineered in these crops is getting into the honeybees and frying their little gut.

01:37:35.000 Well, you're getting ahead of me because that's exactly what they found.

01:37:38.000 The next thing that they checked, they looked inside the bacteria before they fed these people the burger and milkshake, and they found that in three of the seven human volunteers, the gene that had been inserted into the soybean to make the soybean resist death by herbicide, that herbicide-tolerant gene, had transferred from some soy food they had eaten in the past and had taken up residence In the DNA of their gut bacteria, and continue to function.

01:38:07.000 Which means, long after they stop eating genetically engineered soybeans, they're still producing this foreign, genetically engineered protein inside their own intestines.

01:38:18.000 Now, a corollary to this, a corollary to this, and I hate to interrupt him, I want listeners to know, you're only giving them the base stuff, as scary as it sounds, it gets much worse.

01:38:26.000 In over 90 percent, these are federal studies, but they haven't gotten a lot of attention, of people with Crohn's disease, and also in autistic children, they are finding the measles virus from the vaccine in their gut.

01:38:40.000 So again, you take something that's been genetically modified in a vaccine, and it's frying the guts.

01:38:45.000 I mean, this is incredible!

01:38:47.000 Yes, and the thing is, the gut bacteria is very important.

01:38:50.000 In fact, there are ten times more cells in our gut bacteria than there are in our entire body.

01:38:57.000 The gut bacteria is used for creating vitamins and minerals, it's used as part of the immune system, and it's used as part of digestion.

01:39:04.000 Now consider what would happen if you eat a genetically engineered corn chip.

01:39:08.000 Now, corn is genetically engineered predominantly to produce a pesticide.

01:39:14.000 If the gene that produces this pesticide were to transfer to the DNA of your gut bacteria, it might theoretically transform your intestinal flora into living pesticide factories Possibly for the long term.

01:39:28.000 So, this is a completely possible scenario.

01:39:32.000 But you say possible, they're covering it up!

01:39:34.000 This stuff's happening everywhere!

01:39:37.000 Now, when I talk about this at medical conferences, and I've been to several, the doctors come up to me afterwards and what they say consistently is, you know, we've seen a lot of gastrointestinal problems in the last ten years.

01:39:48.000 Maybe it's this colonization of the gut bacteria from genes that have been inserted into crops.

01:39:55.000 Now, the biotic industry, when I've debated them, they'll come back with a really wimpy argument saying, oh well, if genes transferred from plants, we'd be green, we'd have the photosynthesis.

01:40:06.000 If genes transferred from plants, it would happen all the time.

01:40:10.000 But they completely neglect the fact that there are natural barriers from genes transferring from plant genes into bacteria DNA.

01:40:19.000 But, with genetically engineered crops, they put in genes from the bacteria into the plant.

01:40:26.000 Which is animal, which is able to transfer over and is.

01:40:30.000 Exactly.

01:40:31.000 It is optimized.

01:40:32.000 And all of the natural barriers that we know about that prevent transfer from plant genes into bacteria are overcome and stripped away from genetic engineering.

01:40:42.000 Since you bring up their spin, this is the Rush Limbaugh talking point.

01:40:45.000 They say, George Washington Carver crossed plants and got different varieties.

01:40:50.000 Well, that was using natural breeding, like breeding dogs or horses.

01:40:54.000 You weren't changing any of the original DNA.

01:40:56.000 You were taking the animal with different characteristics and going for that, and you still get some problems.

01:41:02.000 That's totally different.

01:41:03.000 They talk to us like we're little kids.

01:41:04.000 No.

01:41:05.000 If you take a bacteria and stick a cockroach gene and a plant gene in it, and maybe 15 other genes, and then stick it in a corn plant, that's totally separate.

01:41:15.000 That's very well said.

01:41:16.000 And that is exactly their spin.

01:41:18.000 They try and say, oh, we've been doing this for 10,000 years.

01:41:21.000 It's just a more precise method.

01:41:22.000 We need it to feed a hungry world.

01:41:25.000 And it's safe.

01:41:25.000 And the FDA proves it's safe.

01:41:27.000 And it'll reduce pesticides.

01:41:28.000 And it'll increase yields.

01:41:30.000 All of that is PR spin.

01:41:33.000 Now about this time I'm suspecting that some of your listeners are concerned about how to avoid eating genetically engineered foods.

01:41:41.000 So I think we have to touch on that before we get into more of these risks.

01:41:45.000 There are four ways.

01:41:48.000 First, you can buy products that say organic.

01:41:51.000 Second, which the organic products are not allowed to use GM inputs.

01:41:56.000 Second, you can buy products which have voluntary labels on it that say non-GMO or made without genetically modified ingredients.

01:42:04.000 Third, you can consult a shopping guide, which you can find on our website at seedsofdeception.com under how to avoid GM foods.

01:42:13.000 And fourth, you can learn what the at-risk ingredients are and read the panels on the side of the packages to make sure it doesn't contain one of the seven genetically engineered crops in North America.

01:42:27.000 And that is soy, corn, cotton, and canola.

01:42:30.000 Those are the four major ones.

01:42:32.000 And unfortunately, soy and corn are in, I would say, 9 out of 10 processed foods, and in all sorts of derivatives.

01:42:39.000 You can get a list of those derivatives on our site.

01:42:41.000 Because they're the big cheap filler.

01:42:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:44.000 Now, let me stop you.

01:42:45.000 SeasOfDeception.com, everyone, you've got to take control of your life now.

01:42:50.000 You've got to go check this out.

01:42:51.000 You've got to at least start trying to discover how to eat organic.

01:42:55.000 Now, I want to expand on this, though, because the feds have tried to come in now because we forced a lot of stores to start adopting organic, or at least non-GMO, you know, which means it's not organic practices to give you the plant.

01:43:07.000 It's still pesticides and things for listeners that don't know, but at least there's not It's on a chimera.

01:43:12.000 It hasn't had genes shot into it, so it's at least a little bit... I mean, pesticides a lot better than, you know, some little bacteria that's been GMO'd.

01:43:19.000 But now they're coming in trying to, as you know, but I mean, I'm telling the listeners this, trying to change it where they can certify something organic if it's 75% altered.

01:43:29.000 They're trying to not let milk companies and cheese and yogurt from the products say we don't have these dangerous Uh, hormones that have been synthetically made that are making three-year-old girls in mass go into puberty now.

01:43:42.000 I mean, all of this is happening.

01:43:44.000 And of course, that's the good news.

01:43:45.000 We're waking up, taking action, so they're fighting back.

01:43:49.000 And then the even bigger threat on top of that, you know, after you explained to us how they're trying to block us and how we can fight back, Is that if we don't stop them now, we only have, you know, a few dozen things that they've planted worldwide on a mass scale that we're now eating.

01:44:03.000 As he said, the seven major food crops.

01:44:05.000 The problem is they've got thousands of labs integrating into, you know, trees that produce oils, essential oils, into grasses, into everything.

01:44:15.000 You say, well, I don't eat grass.

01:44:16.000 You're going to breathe that.

01:44:18.000 And grasses and things are designed to spread.

01:44:20.000 They will get outside the fields.

01:44:22.000 I mean, I know I'm shotgunning myself here, but that's what goes on in my mind.

01:44:26.000 Yes, in fact, the pollen issue is a problem.

01:44:29.000 In the Philippines, they found that a certain variety of genetically modified corn that produced its own toxin apparently was responsible for skin, respiratory, and intestinal reactions and fever.

01:44:40.000 In five different villages that planted this genetically engineered variety.

01:44:43.000 It's the bee gene killing the bees! 0.99

01:44:45.000 Yeah, but go ahead.

01:44:46.000 Yeah, that's also a possibility, although I wouldn't say it would be the primary cause, because there are some bee deaths in countries where there's very little acreage, but it could be a contributory factor, and yes, the genes do transfer to gut microorganisms inside the bee, and yes, but when they take the pollen from these pesticide-producing corn plants, their immune system is compromised.

01:45:08.000 Yes.

01:45:09.000 Getting to some more information about how to avoid eating genetically engineered foods.

01:45:15.000 This also relates to that milk issue that you talked about.

01:45:18.000 Yeah, let's talk about that.

01:45:19.000 There is a genetically engineered drug called Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone, RBGH, or it's also called RBST, and it's from Monsanto.

01:45:31.000 And this will take a long time to discuss all the details, but essentially They injected into dairy cows to increase milk supply.

01:45:39.000 The biggest health concern is that the milk has higher levels of a hormone called IGF-1, and that that is very deeply linked to cancer and an increased rate of fraternal twins.

01:45:51.000 And right now, because the person in charge of policy at the FDA, when that was approved, was Monsanto's former attorney, they don't require labeling of dairy products When the cows are injected.

01:46:02.000 In fact, if a company wants to label their product as made without the use of this drug, that Monsanto has sued companies to say that it's illegal.

01:46:13.000 Now they're trying to get states like Pennsylvania, Kansas, Utah, Indiana, Missouri to make it illegal for dairies ...to label their products as free from the use of this hormone.

01:46:24.000 In a supposed free society, they're suing and blocking.

01:46:28.000 I remember four or five years ago, you'd see it on the milk.

01:46:30.000 Suddenly, that's off the milk.

01:46:32.000 Well, what's happening is, in the last two years, there's been so much consumer education toward the tipping point to drive this off the market, that about 40 out of the top 100 dairies have committed to stop using RBGH in some or all of their products.

01:46:46.000 And that includes Starbucks, who took it out of their company brands by the end of last year, Kroger, that took it out by this month.

01:46:52.000 And this is the good news, is that you and others, all of us together, we're having a victory!

01:46:59.000 It's fantastic.

01:47:00.000 In fact, you know, the tipping point concept is very real.

01:47:03.000 In 1999, in January, a biotech company was projecting a 95% takeover of all commercial seeds within five years.

01:47:13.000 But within a month, their ideal future crashed because a food scandal erupted about GMOs and GM food safety in Europe.

01:47:21.000 Within two months after that high-profile event, in a single week, virtually every major food company in Europe committed to remove GM ingredients from their European brands because it had become a liability because consumers were taking steps to protect themselves.

01:47:36.000 My organization, the Institute for Responsible Technology, has a plan in place to achieve that same type of tipping point in the U.S.

01:47:43.000 Before the end of 2009, simply by informing consumers about the type of health dangers we've talked about today, plus many more, and putting in their hands a non-GMO shopping guide so that they will shift their purchases to those wise companies that don't use GMOs, Making it a marketing liability for those that do.

01:48:03.000 And let's be clear, this is literally life and death.

01:48:07.000 The biosphere is, this is the real environmental crisis.

01:48:10.000 Not plastic bags, not the greenhouse.

01:48:13.000 That's all because they want a global tax in their own documents.

01:48:16.000 Meanwhile, we're rushing towards oblivion.

01:48:18.000 And this revolution of wild, open, reckless genetic engineering is just exploding.

01:48:25.000 Can you briefly speak to, we've got to stop them and slow them now.

01:48:29.000 Absolutely.

01:48:30.000 There's 172 different species that have been field trialed in the United States alone.

01:48:35.000 That means that they have a version of a genetically engineered food to replace virtually all the natural food on the shelves and in the gardens and in the field.

01:48:45.000 Now, they're trying to introduce the next major crop in the United States for the first time in over a decade, genetically engineered sugar beets.

01:48:54.000 The sugar beet industry wants to plant them starting this year, which will contaminate the sugar in the United States and around the world by the end of this year.

01:49:01.000 So we are in a very pitched battle right now to stop the introduction of GMOs and to demonstrate to the food industry that GMOs in general are going to be a Very rapidly, a liability for selling.

01:49:15.000 And you haven't even gotten into how, what, 97% of the ancient Mexican corn crops have been infected with just one man's Monsanto variety.

01:49:25.000 You haven't even gotten into how these GMO crops are taking over the original crops.

01:49:31.000 Yes, that's some of the real bad news.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, we're going to have to have you back up for two hours in the next few weeks. 0.99

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01:52:51.000 Folks, I want you to know something.

01:53:04.000 This is not my opinion.

01:53:07.000 I've probably had 50 genetic engineers and scientists on this show. 0.61

01:53:10.000 And we're going to have more and more on it.

01:53:15.000 And the gentleman you're listening to, he's giving you what's documented.

01:53:18.000 You know, what he can conservatively say.

01:53:22.000 It's even worse.

01:53:22.000 I have children, and I'm telling you, they have no future.

01:53:26.000 Yours have no future.

01:53:28.000 If we don't turn this around, and I want you to get his books, I want you to get his videos, they got some very good packages, that's their website, and I want you to have showings at your library, everywhere.

01:53:39.000 We gotta get mad!

01:53:41.000 And tell all the environmentalists who've been caught by the corporates, the corporates know there's people waking up, so they give you little, you know, light bulbs and bags and band bottles.

01:53:51.000 Dioxin's bad, folks.

01:53:52.000 It's nothing compared to this.

01:53:53.000 This is the big issue.

01:53:56.000 Would you say, because I really see you as the preeminent expert, Jeffrey M. Smith, would you agree with the statement I just made?

01:54:03.000 Well, absolutely.

01:54:04.000 I'd say genetically engineered organisms are one of the most dangerous health and environmental threats faced by humanity.

01:54:11.000 I would also say it's one of the easiest of the major problems to fix.

01:54:15.000 In terms of the food supply.

01:54:17.000 But how do we deal with these psycho companies?

01:54:19.000 What's wrong?

01:54:19.000 I mean, I know Monsanto in 99, it was in major magazines like National Geographic, remember?

01:54:25.000 When they came out and said, our plan is to contaminate everything so you won't have a choice.

01:54:29.000 I'm paraphrasing the quote.

01:54:32.000 Yes, indeed.

01:54:32.000 In fact, a friend of mine was debating with someone from USAID in South Africa, and when the TV cameras went down, they continued to argue, and at one point she said, you just wait.

01:54:42.000 We'll have so much genetically modified corn in South Africa that no one in Africa can plant non-GM corn.

01:54:49.000 It was contamination by design.

01:54:53.000 Good God, we've got to have you back up soon. 0.94

01:54:56.000 I've got Daniel Esselin from Spain joining us, but can you stay?

01:55:00.000 We're about to break just another five-minute segment.

01:55:02.000 Five minutes into the next hour, or do you have to go?

01:55:03.000 Sure, I can do that.

01:55:04.000 Okay, good.

01:55:05.000 Because I want to plug the book again.

01:55:06.000 Again, ladies and gentlemen, if we don't cause a massive awakening now, this is going to get firmly entrenched, spread throughout the biosphere, spreading into other plants already.

01:55:16.000 In fact, it always does.

01:55:19.000 The mindset of these companies, though, how are the people that work at them so evil?

01:55:23.000 Don't they care about their own families? 0.81

01:55:25.000 Well, you know, I interviewed someone from Monsanto who had left the company, and he was recruited in 97, and he actually evaluated the words of the then CEO, Robert Shapiro, who promised great things for the world from genetic engineering and pressed the heck out of this guy.

01:55:41.000 And so during the employee orientation in Monsanto's headquarters, He whacked philosophical about what he was doing for the world.

01:55:48.000 He got pulled over after the meeting by a vice president and said, wait a minute, what the CEO, Robert Shapiro, says is one thing, what we do is something else.

01:55:55.000 We're here to make money.

01:55:56.000 We don't even know what he's talking about.

01:56:00.000 It's incredible. 0.89

01:56:01.000 Yeah, well, we're going to feed the Africans, but the Africans are smart enough to let this stuff rot on the dock. 1.00

01:56:06.000 Yeah, when I spoke to the House of Chiefs in Zambia, first of all, I apologize on behalf of the United States, which tried to bully them.

01:56:12.000 To take genetically engineered food aid, and I applauded them for resisting it, because, of course, feeding 80% or 90% of the caloric intake as genetically engineered corn to people that are already immuno-suffering and malnourished would be a disaster!

01:56:28.000 You know, in a sick way, though, by you and others stopping them from poisoning people en masse, it actually, in a sick way, lets them continue.

01:56:35.000 If you just let it go into Africa and then it killed a bunch of people, we might be able to stop it. 1.00

01:56:39.000 I'm not saying do that, but, I mean, do you see the point I'm making?

01:56:42.000 I am, but we started the segment, we started the show talking about how L-tryptophan had killed 100 Americans and caused 5 to 10,000 to fall sick, and how difficult it was to even trace it to the L-tryptophan.

01:56:52.000 If we saw a lot of people dying, they could easily let it go and not attribute it to genetically engineered food.

01:56:59.000 Well, they're already doing that because they don't teach the doctors through the American Medical Association how to diagnose unless, like you said, it's incredibly acute.

01:57:06.000 Exactly.

01:57:07.000 Acute and fast acting and rare symptoms.

01:57:11.000 Otherwise, if it's cancer or heart disease, who would know?

01:57:14.000 We'll be back with a final segment with you, my friend, in just 60 seconds.

01:57:18.000 By the way, major federal court ruled and admits with a scientist that the mercury did cause the brain damage.

01:57:24.000 But see, that's because it's so acute, because the kids have convulsions after the third round of shots at 18 months.

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01:58:23.000 Folks, you can't make this stuff up.

01:58:25.000 It's coming up.

01:58:26.000 These people are completely out of their minds.

01:58:28.000 Our guest is Jeffrey M. Smith.

01:58:30.000 You've got to go to seedsofdeception.com.

01:58:32.000 You've got to get Seeds of Deception, the book, the number one international bestseller on GMO foods.

01:58:37.000 You've got to get his new book, and that's Genetic Roulette.

01:58:39.000 And yes, we're going to be carrying them here.

01:58:41.000 I've made that deal with him, but we're not selling them yet.

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01:58:45.000 We cannot wait.

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01:58:50.000 We've got four minutes left.

01:58:51.000 I'm going to just actually gag myself. 0.89

01:58:53.000 I'm going to stick a shoe in my mouth, and you've got the floor, sir. 0.92

01:58:55.000 Whatever else you think is important.

01:58:58.000 Well, I think that I want to Describe what's happening currently because it may be in a state from some of the listeners and they could participate in expressing outrage to their state assemblymen or the Department of Agriculture.

01:59:11.000 Monsanto is backed against the corner because the tipping point is occurring against genetically engineered bovine growth hormones.

01:59:19.000 And so starting in October in Pennsylvania, the Department of Agriculture, the Secretary of Ag passed a ruling saying it was illegal For companies to label their products as RBGH-free, or as they say, RBST-free.

01:59:35.000 And there was such an outcry that the governor's office stopped the ruling and said, we're going to delay it by a month to review.

01:59:42.000 And he finally came out with a compromise plan that allowed for the labeling, but required this bogus sentence saying that according to the FDA, there's no difference in milk from cows treated with RBGH or not.

01:59:54.000 And that bogus sentence was written by Monsanto's former attorney, Who was in charge of policy at the FDA, and it's a lie.

02:00:01.000 There's a significant difference between the milk from cows treated with RBGH.

02:00:05.000 It has higher levels of IGF-1, which is linked to cancer, and I mean very linked to cancer.

02:00:10.000 Women with high levels of IGF-1, who are premenopausal, are seven times more likely to develop breast cancer.

02:00:16.000 Men are four times more likely to develop prostate cancer, and it's in much higher levels in milk from cows treated with RBGH.

02:00:23.000 So, unfortunately we have sort of won in Pennsylvania, we've sort of won in Utah, but it's being fought now, I mean in Ohio.

02:00:32.000 So who do we lobby?

02:00:33.000 Who do we lobby?

02:00:34.000 We're lobbying right now Kansas, Missouri, and Utah are the main ones right now.

02:00:41.000 Okay, in closing, because Elizabeth will get mad I forgot this question, the Doomsday Vault that they've built, a hundred, a thousand kilometers from the North Pole, filled with all of the seed stock that hasn't been contaminated.

02:00:53.000 Well, certainly these type of vaults are all over the planet, and they're not often well kept up.

02:01:01.000 And sometimes a biotech company will sort of take an ownership interest in them so that they can have access to the germplasm to genetically engineer it, patent it, and then further their plans to control the world's food supply.

02:01:14.000 I happen to know Carrie Fowler, who is the director of the Norwegian He's a very good man, and he has a very good dream for protecting the world's seed supply for the long term.

02:01:25.000 Now, whether or not the corporate interests are involved in it and what their level of interest is and what their level of ability to manipulate that, it's hard to say.

02:01:35.000 But this is something that's of fundamental importance to protect the biodiversity.

02:01:39.000 When the Green Revolution was started in India, they had 250,000 varieties of rice.

02:01:45.000 They knocked it down to a few hundred.

02:01:47.000 And by the way, I've got to stop you again because we're almost out of time here.

02:01:51.000 You just brought up another thing.

02:01:52.000 The big GMO companies are buying up all the heirloom seeds so you can't get them.

02:01:56.000 In fact, Monsanto is the largest seed company in the world.

02:01:56.000 Oh yeah.

02:02:00.000 And so they're reducing the amount of non-GM seeds available in certain seed categories.

02:02:06.000 So they're really in a situation to control the shot if they own the seed supply.

02:02:12.000 seedsofdeception.com.

02:02:14.000 Seeds of Deception is the best-selling book.

02:02:16.000 The brand new book is Genetic Roulette.

02:02:18.000 We're going to have you back up for a two-hour interview when you get back after the 16th from that conference.

02:02:25.000 All I can say is, Jeffrey M. Smith, God bless you for what you're doing for all of humanity.

02:02:29.000 People need to support you, and thank you for spending time with us.

02:02:33.000 Thank you so much, Alex.

02:02:34.000 An amazing individual.

02:02:35.000 There he goes.

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02:05:54.000 Okay, a month or so ago they had the Davos Switzerland World Economic Forum.

02:05:59.000 Kind of a public Bilderberg meeting.

02:06:01.000 But a lot happens behind the scenes.

02:06:02.000 Daniel has now gotten intel from his sources.

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02:06:20.000 Daniel, good to have you on with us.

02:06:23.000 Break down the latest info you've got on the direction of the New World Order.

02:06:28.000 Well, good afternoon, Alex.

02:06:29.000 For your listeners, of course, I am in Spain.

02:06:30.000 I am coming to the United States next week.

02:06:33.000 I'll be there for a couple of weeks.

02:06:35.000 Making some noise, hopefully a lot of people will participate.

02:06:38.000 Again, just the latest information from this year's Davos Forum.

02:06:42.000 As you said, it's Mini Bilderberg Open.

02:06:44.000 Of course, everybody talks about it.

02:06:45.000 Nobody talks about Bilderberg.

02:06:46.000 I wonder why.

02:06:47.000 The message from Davos this year is one world, literally in every concept, shape, and form.

02:06:53.000 The first point that these people talked about, again, behind the scenes, is the new hegemony.

02:06:58.000 I just want to read you a couple of paragraphs from some of the Intel reports that we got.

02:07:03.000 This is just one sentence.

02:07:05.000 Wealthy individuals in the developed world have been among the greatest beneficiaries of globalization, leading a search for the highest risk-adjusted returns that have spread through other economies and social classes and into almost every nation in the world.

02:07:21.000 Now, then there's the flip side to that.

02:07:22.000 Just hang on a second, I'm going to flip to it.

02:07:25.000 The same people are talking about at the opposite end of the spectrum.

02:07:28.000 The other great beneficiaries of globalization, the wealthy, will have both altruistic and self-interested reasons to demonstrate that economic freedom.

02:07:39.000 Now, again, very, very important, we're talking about one world, we're talking about wealth, and what is the clincher for this point is, they're talking about in the same report, and this is the sentence, they're talking about where does one find a legitimate base For the power of corporate management to make decisions that can profoundly affect the economic life of nations.

02:08:00.000 Well, this is very, very funny because... They're saying, which global government node do we use?

02:08:06.000 Well, exactly, exactly, you got it.

02:08:09.000 And what's so interesting about that phrase, Alex, Again, this is paraphrasing almost to the letter what George Ball said in 1968 at the Bilderberg meeting in Montreux Blanc in Canada.

02:08:22.000 And his phrase, and literally I found it in my book, it is, where does one find a legitimate base for the power of corporate management to make decisions that will affect the lives of nations to whose governments they have only limited responsibility?

02:08:39.000 Again, the message itself is very, very clear.

02:08:42.000 The idea is the wholesale destruction of nation states, the same point that people like David Rockefeller and Etienne d'Avignon and the Kissingers are talking about. 1.00

02:08:52.000 But now their big debate is, do they use NATO, the UN?

02:08:56.000 It's all part of the same structure run by the same people, but they're kind of searching, even in public discussions now, about what will be the prime dominant highest tower in this global government fortress From your inside knowledge of Milderberg and Davos and in Europe, what are they leaning towards?

02:09:15.000 Publicly it looks like a super NATO.

02:09:18.000 Well, you know, actually, what my people are telling me is just public posturing to get people involved one way or another to take sides.

02:09:26.000 You know how it works.

02:09:27.000 It's like, you know, as if these were two football teams and you just decide which one you're going to bet on and play for.

02:09:33.000 And I think that's basically the idea.

02:09:35.000 Because, again, the idea is... False choice.

02:09:38.000 False choice, Jim.

02:09:39.000 Absolutely.

02:09:40.000 They're accelerating it.

02:09:41.000 And what's amazing is how much of this stuff is coming into the open.

02:09:45.000 They're no longer afraid, terrified, or worried or concerned about people standing up to them, whether it's before.

02:09:52.000 It was always some kind of a hush-hush tones, you know, double meaning in their language.

02:09:57.000 Well, no longer is it.

02:09:59.000 And that's one of the key things I think we have to understand and be very, very aware of.

02:10:04.000 Another thing that they talked about this year at Davos, and again I'm reading from one of the reports called the New Hegemony, is global citizenship.

02:10:13.000 Now what do you think is that all about?

02:10:16.000 Well, global citizens are minions of a global government.

02:10:21.000 Exactly.

02:10:21.000 And again, it goes back to the same ideas we talked about before.

02:10:25.000 How do you establish a David Rockefeller, you know, utopian idea of the world, where supranational sovereignty of world bankers, you know, and superpowers, supersede national auto-determination practiced in past centuries?

02:10:39.000 And of course, there are different ways of looking at it, but basically, The current parliamentary democracy works on a basis you have a head of state be it president or prime minister, you have a parliament which of course can be eliminated, taken out in any kind of A crisis situation.

02:10:54.000 And then, of course, you have a third branch of government in charge of the financial system called the world over, the independent central banking systems.

02:11:02.000 And we know how independent the Federal Reserve is, European Central Bank, and the Queen's Treasury in England.

02:11:08.000 Of course, all of these institutions are heavily interlocked with Bilderberg, with New World Order, with Davos, with Trilateral Commission.

02:11:20.000 Well, an example of you saying they're coming out, we know for 50 years they've had programs with toy makers and cartoon makers and that's been declassified, pushing world government, you know, the new Fantastic Four always helps the UN, the toys are all UN soldiers now, but now Marvel Comics admitting free comic books to all American school kids, Teaching them that world government is good, and villains fight world government.

02:11:49.000 I mean, that's just base... Well, I didn't know that.

02:11:50.000 When was this?

02:11:51.000 They announced it a month ago.

02:11:52.000 Oh, really?

02:11:54.000 We didn't get this in Europe?

02:11:55.000 Okay, very interesting.

02:11:56.000 But the villains are people that fight the world government.

02:12:01.000 I see.

02:12:02.000 I mean, how base is that propaganda?

02:12:04.000 How base is that?

02:12:05.000 Well, you know, another thing, speaking of base, another thing that these people talked about this year, that was, again, this is, they are being very, very careful because I think, again, this, you know, this will be the key idea is the destruction of nation states.

02:12:19.000 Now, I got it from several people, which means It's obviously the truth.

02:12:22.000 Now, you know, funny thing about the 20th century, I think, in my opinion, it will go down in future history as the century which is outstanding for the endless monotony of its popularly believed rise.

02:12:36.000 Well, I think the 21st century, up to this point at least, It's outstanding in how, you know, openly these people are discussing and promoting their One World Order plans.

02:12:46.000 And again, one of the key issues coming out of this year's Davos, and strangely enough, none of the multimedia corporate elite who were present actually talked about it.

02:12:57.000 They spoke in droves about all these things they're going to do to help the world, but none of them spoke of the wholesale destruction plans For the nation-state, which is the basis of what we have in the world.

02:13:09.000 Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, why are they suddenly so much more confident?

02:13:13.000 Because it looks like they're having a lot of problems on many fronts.

02:13:16.000 Why are they so confident?

02:13:18.000 Well, you know, I don't know.

02:13:21.000 People are saying that they're having a lot of problems on a lot of fronts.

02:13:24.000 I'm frankly not seeing it, because again, you see so many of them openly talking about, outspoken, about the same things that they were very hush-hush about Ten, fifteen years ago, they're coming out and openly talking about, at least in Europe they do it, I imagine, obviously in the United States and Canada as well, about the need to create a United Nations Army, about the need for the Rapid Reaction Force, which is a European version of European Army,

02:13:51.000 About, you know, creating the North American Union, or as before, it was all dissimilated.

02:13:56.000 And of course, how globalism works is because it is globalized.

02:14:00.000 When they create a European Union, the US and Canada are already harmonizing publicly all their laws with them, and then Latin America harmonizes with us, and Asia harmonizes with Europe and the US.

02:14:11.000 Aren't we really already under a global government?

02:14:13.000 It's just... Well, you know, for instance, I think we are.

02:14:16.000 You know, generally speaking, again, if you look at the European Union, it is one Big country made up of 27 nations.

02:14:24.000 You have North America, Canada, United States and Mexico.

02:14:26.000 And again, now with the latest, the American and Canadian armies are coming under one command, of course.

02:14:31.000 Oh yeah, I wanted to get your take on that.

02:14:33.000 We knew that five years ago.

02:14:35.000 You had American Blackwater people searching you at the airport in Canada.

02:14:41.000 Yeah, talk about that.

02:14:42.000 Now they're just open... Well, you know, again, for the people who haven't, you know, who don't know the story, when I came this year, or last year in October, to promote my book in the United States, I came through Canada.

02:14:52.000 Well, I was almost not let into my country, not really brought at home.

02:14:56.000 The people who searched my bags were asking me the most ridiculous questions you can imagine.

02:15:01.000 We're American security guards working through DIMCORP, contracted by the Canadian government, and they basically told me that we decide whether you get into Canada or not.

02:15:11.000 And that really brought home that an American If people don't understand what that leads to, I think they better stick to Mickey Mouse and the Oscar nomination.

02:15:26.000 Well, reading the SPP documents from September that we got last year, from September 06, North Com was running the meeting.

02:15:36.000 Go ahead.

02:15:37.000 Absolutely.

02:15:38.000 When you and I were in Canada in 2006, in Granada, covering Bilderberg, you and I, in the time that we spent together with Jim Tucker, we were talking about all the stuff going down.

02:15:47.000 And again, it goes all the way down back to 1996, when their plans were coming together for the creating of the North American Union by breaking Canada up.

02:15:56.000 into French and English speaking Canada in order to merge the two parts together, Canada, English speaking, and the United States.

02:16:03.000 Of course, we stopped them.

02:16:04.000 That was then.

02:16:06.000 If you look at Canada today, fewer and fewer people are prepared to do this again.

02:16:11.000 Because I think especially after 11th September, people are afraid Their will to fight has been destroyed.

02:16:11.000 Why?

02:16:19.000 The images of terrorists, just as in Stalinist Russia, there's terrorists in every street corner, has really brought it home who is running the show.

02:16:28.000 And I don't know what the heck is going on, but I think, again, there is a reason why these people have lost their fear.

02:16:34.000 I'm talking about the Bilderberg-led One World Order.

02:16:38.000 Uh, I think, you know, all of this is coming together very, very quickly, and unfortunately, you know, they're basically saying to us, what you gonna do about it?

02:16:48.000 Well, I agree with you, but could it be hubris?

02:16:50.000 I mean, I'm trying to see some light at the end of the tunnel here, and could it be because we did expose them, now they're forced to come out and admit it, but try to put a good face on it?

02:16:58.000 Well, you know, I think there's a little bit of both.

02:17:01.000 I think they're closer to it than we would like and not as nearly as close as they would like.

02:17:06.000 It's not coming together as quickly from their point of view and too quickly from ours.

02:17:11.000 But again, I think what we're witnessing right now, and I think this is the only hope we have, It is the preservation of the nation's states, the idea that countries, constitutions, they cannot be touched, they're sacred.

02:17:24.000 And again, for the people who are listening to the show for the first time, you better understand that the politicians, the mainstream politicians running for the elections in the United States, none of these people out there, the Clintons, the Obamas, the McCains, they do not represent your interests.

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02:22:00.000 Daniel, we've only got a few minutes left.

02:22:02.000 Tell folks about your trip, some of the places you're going to be, and then go to danieleslerlin.com to learn more.

02:22:08.000 I'm going to be in New York City for three days.

02:22:10.000 We have lots of interviews planned.

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02:22:15.000 If people live in the area, please get the tickets.

02:22:17.000 We are expecting a full house.

02:22:19.000 I'm going to be also in Los Angeles.

02:22:22.000 For three or four days.

02:22:23.000 We have a lot of things on the agenda.

02:22:25.000 We have people calling from Canada.

02:22:27.000 We have interviews planned in Seattle, in Miami, I think, as well as in Chicago.

02:22:32.000 This will be over the phone, obviously.

02:22:34.000 And again, big trip, second trip to the States in the last six months.

02:22:38.000 A lot of interest in the book.

02:22:39.000 The book is still ranked in the top 500 on Amazon.com.

02:22:43.000 If I have about a minute and a half, Alex, I was thinking before the break of what you said, now what can we do?

02:22:48.000 You know, I think if a people is to participate in self-government, they must participate in the ideas by which society is self-governed.

02:22:57.000 Ignorant, illiterate people cannot participate competently in self-government because they do not understand the issues of government and what they are. 0.76

02:23:05.000 Again, if you think about the 19th century African-American slaves, literacy literally was the first condition of freedom that I think is a key issue because again what the new world order build that we're just trying to do is to destroy to suppress our creative powers of reason because yeah they've dumbed us down they've massively dumbed us down and everybody else is obsessed with their iPods and so people better wake up or they're going to be slaves 0.97

02:23:33.000 If we can wake up from the stupor, again, drunken stupor, I think it could literally mean the death of oligarchism, because nations which foster the creative mental development of their population produce people which will not tolerate oligarchical forms of rule indefinitely.

02:23:50.000 Only illiterate and technologically backwards population will.

02:23:53.000 Indeed, I think illiteracy and technological backwardness are contributing causes for the emergence of this oligarchical one world order rule.

02:24:02.000 And again, all you need to do is just to look at the young United States as a federal republic as a demonstration of this point, because in the 18th century, the average American was culturally and economically superior to the average Britain of the 18th century.

02:24:17.000 And again, that speaks volumes.

02:24:19.000 The ideas, the interdependency between levels of technological progress I've got to get you up for a full hour.

02:24:30.000 Maybe we can schedule that now for when you are in the United States.

02:24:34.000 I want to thank you for all you've done.

02:24:35.000 Folks, you can get your best-selling book at Infowars.com right now, or stores all over the place.

02:24:41.000 Though it's sold out, quite a few places are going into your fourth printing in the U.S.

02:24:44.000 edition.

02:24:45.000 Over a million-plus sold globally.

02:24:47.000 A million and a half, an amazing, a micro-publisher in the United States is publishing.

02:24:52.000 Every big publishing house said, no, we're not interested, not right for us.

02:24:56.000 Now what have you sold, like 40,000 copies in the US now?

02:24:59.000 We've got, I think we're over 54, 55,000.

02:25:02.000 We've done about a million, 650 now worldwide.

02:25:05.000 We just sold our 50th country.

02:25:07.000 That's going to be coming out in Croatia.

02:25:10.000 So we have the entire world for the exception of China and a couple of other nations. 0.93

02:25:15.000 Daniel, I'm going to have Trey call you here in a minute and try to get you set up for a full hour to take calls while you're here in town next Monday.

02:25:21.000 Great.

02:25:21.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

02:25:23.000 God bless you, Alex.

02:25:24.000 Take care.

02:25:24.000 God bless you.

02:25:26.000 Yeah, my book, his book, Bilderberg, my film, Endgame, they go together, cover a lot of the same material.

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02:25:35.000 I've got a bunch of financial news.

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02:30:46.000 And new numbers out today show inflation is on the rise.

02:30:50.000 Consumer prices jumped four-tenths of a percent in January, higher than economists expected.

02:30:55.000 The cost of food and fuel are the reasons.

02:30:58.000 In the past 12 months, prices have risen 4.3%.

02:31:01.000 And one of the ways you're surely feeling the effects of inflation is in the price of bread and pancakes and pasta.

02:31:07.000 Anything made with wheat.

02:31:09.000 Today, a bushel sold for $10.33, more than double what it cost a year ago.

02:31:14.000 As ABC's Sharon Alfonsi reports, consumers are eating those higher prices.

02:31:19.000 And now we go to Steve Schenck.

02:31:21.000 You know, we told you to get gold when it was 300.

02:31:23.000 Well, it was really 264 when we started back in 2000.

02:31:27.000 Now it's 970 plus.

02:31:28.000 Went from 980 today, announced.

02:31:32.000 We've told you to get a destorable clean.

02:31:35.000 By that, none of his food is GMO.

02:31:37.000 Almost all of it's organic, but some of the bananas and stuff is just, you know, you can't say organic.

02:31:43.000 It is non-GMO, and it pretty much is organic.

02:31:46.000 But what, Steve, you say 99% of your stuff is organic.

02:31:49.000 The point is, it's clean, healthy food.

02:31:51.000 It's where I've gotten food several times.

02:31:53.000 I just got some more from Steve.

02:31:54.000 It just came in today.

02:31:56.000 I want to thank you, Steve.

02:31:57.000 We just ordered that a week and a half ago.

02:32:00.000 Another year's supply, and I'm probably going to buy some more.

02:32:05.000 Because I want to give some to some family that can't afford it.

02:32:08.000 With inflation exploding, and it's 4 point something percent with their Cook numbers on top of the 3 percent they were already claiming, it's really about 20 percent a year.

02:32:16.000 It was 15 last year with private sources.

02:32:18.000 Ron Paul schooled Bernanke on that two days ago, head of the Federal Reserve.

02:32:23.000 With all this GMO, with all the food shortages, with the dollar going down in value, we're now a cheap place to buy it.

02:32:30.000 So the third world's coming in and Europe's coming in and buying up all our main food crops. 0.99

02:32:35.000 This is a perfect storm.

02:32:36.000 Steve Shank, thanks for coming on.

02:32:38.000 Well, hey, I'm glad to be here, Alex, and we've just seen some very interesting things.

02:32:43.000 You know, you talked a little bit earlier about what we had been talking about a year ago, six months ago.

02:32:52.000 A year ago, we broke the information about how the bees disappearing would affect the food supplies, and now, right now, we have the result of the shortages And all of the bee disappearance, they're pollinating about two-thirds of the food that we eat.

02:33:14.000 And just this last weekend, 2020 came out with a big thing about the bees disappearing.

02:33:19.000 They're only a year behind you, Alex.

02:33:21.000 What can I say?

02:33:23.000 Well, they're a year behind you, my friend.

02:33:26.000 And so it's the falling dollar, the bees, the ethanol, all of it's a perfect storm.

02:33:31.000 Well, yeah.

02:33:34.000 You know that when you and I get on, our objective isn't to scare the daylight out of other people.

02:33:40.000 The only thing that I just want to point out is the stuff that we've been trying to tell folks and that we've been sharing as we go along.

02:33:49.000 What we've been trying to do is, first of all, educate folks and let them know what's happening at the supply end of the food chain.

02:33:56.000 There's no way that people can know unless they're sitting in the spot that I am, and I share that with you.

02:34:02.000 You're the nation's, what, 27 years longest continually and largest storable foods companies.

02:34:07.000 No MSG, none of the garbage.

02:34:09.000 I bought food before I knew about you that all had MSG in it.

02:34:12.000 Why do so many of the storable foods companies have MSG?

02:34:16.000 Well, it's a food enhancer.

02:34:19.000 A lot of times it's a flavor enhancer.

02:34:22.000 It's used in a lot of the production of the food and a lot of the food storage organizations.

02:34:27.000 You've got to realize a lot of these people aren't really into storable food supplies and knowing what it takes to keep the family healthy.

02:34:36.000 They're marketers and they're just buying whatever they can throw into a can.

02:34:41.000 It's getting quite dangerous because now that type of practice is life-threatening rather than just unethical.

02:34:47.000 But we've had a situation come up here.

02:34:50.000 I want to just touch on four things real quick that I think your listeners might be interested in.

02:34:56.000 First of all, the reenactment of the bee thing.

02:34:59.000 Now we're sitting in a situation that's the result of what's going on with the bees and now the media is just telling us about the bees.

02:35:05.000 The second thing is this Doomsday Seed Repository.

02:35:10.000 You and I talked about that about six months ago and told folks, hey listen, the same people that are genetically altering the food to make you glow in the dark, walk sideways and one eye travel to the other side of your head, and that are working with hybridizing and genetically altering and have created the Doomsday

02:35:31.000 Or not the Doomsday, but the Terminator seed, which forces farmers all over the world to have to buy seed every year so that the food supply worldwide and nationwide is basically controlled.

02:35:43.000 These are the guys that are building the Doomsday seed thing.

02:35:47.000 And what that is, it's not a humanitarian effort like the news media came out with just two days ago and said how wonderful it is.

02:35:57.000 The papers are also coming out and saying that no one person has a key to the vault.

02:36:02.000 I was about to say that we had one of the top experts on GMO foods, the best selling author, I mean he has the book, it's the best selling out there, interviewing 30 scientists, that the Monsanto and others really own and control these vaults because they know they're going to contaminate everything and so they want to keep these seeds off the market.

02:36:21.000 It's called the mother seed. 0.59

02:36:23.000 What they have to have is they have to have the mother seed that is a non-hybrid, a non-altered seed, so that they can modify... To get the original genetics to make more, yeah. 0.95

02:36:33.000 That's exactly right.

02:36:35.000 And so that is coming out now after, you know, six months after we squalled and hollered about it.

02:36:42.000 And listeners, all this means, folks, is that if you have your own supply Then you will not be dependent on those who would control the food supply.

02:36:53.000 Now we've had another really interesting situation go on that I don't think I had a chance to mention with you, Alex.

02:37:03.000 And that's one of our staffers here is married to a little gal from Japan. 1.00

02:37:08.000 And Japan and China are really getting into it because Japan has to import an awful lot of its food from China, which is where we're importing a lot of our stuff from.

02:37:19.000 and they're sending them the same poison-tainted stuff that we get, and they're just not standing there.

02:37:24.000 And by we, you mean the United States, not your company.

02:37:27.000 Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

02:37:29.000 Yeah, the United States, yes.

02:37:31.000 And so what's happening is the very stuff that you and I have been talking about that's coming in, the Chinese imports and the Mexican imports and the third world country imports that we try and guarantee, By we, meaning the J. Michael Stevens Group guarantees people that they aren't going to This stuff is causing international problems.

02:37:55.000 But there's an issue that came up.

02:37:58.000 I just got a call yesterday from the folks down in Ephraim, Utah that pack all the foods eFoods and JMS send out to you folks.

02:38:10.000 And what's happened is Associated Foods.

02:38:14.000 Now these are the people that supply all of the independent grocery stores other than the great big chains.

02:38:23.000 They supply all the independent grocery stores.

02:38:26.000 Wheat has become such an issue that starting next month they are going to start rationing The U.N.

02:38:37.000 said this week, a headline, even First World Nations may begin rationing food, middle class to even be affected.

02:38:53.000 That's right.

02:38:53.000 And now, just before you brought me on, there was that announcement with regard to wheat prices and things, and I think that they announced that it was... More than doubled.

02:39:03.000 Yeah, more than doubled.

02:39:05.000 My call from Charlie this morning, which is that same supplier that I was telling you about that does all of our packing, said that as of this morning, wheat was going for $22.75 a bushel.

02:39:17.000 $22.75 a bushel.

02:39:20.000 So just a day ago it was $10, and it was $4 before.

02:39:24.000 Now it's gone to $20.

02:39:25.000 It's $22.75 this morning.

02:39:28.000 Folks, that looks like massive hyperinflation, and I'm seeing this in all the commodities.

02:39:32.000 Look at gold going up to close to $1,000.

02:39:34.000 Man, you know, Steve, it's when things are the scariest that...

02:39:39.000 I don't want to scare people, but if it's not this year or next year or whatever, and we probably don't have to wait, unfortunately, the whole world's getting crazier, everything's getting nuttier, and I just believe in storable foods, and I know you're the best company out there with the best prices.

02:39:55.000 You warned people to buy it before February 11th because there was going to be a price increase.

02:40:00.000 It's still been modest.

02:40:01.000 You're even cutting into your meager This is high-quality food.

02:40:06.000 I mean, we've told them the facts.

02:40:07.000 There's a lot more, but we've got some time to get into more of what's happening because you're in major food storage and preparations.

02:40:13.000 You're seeing it.

02:40:14.000 That's how you can tell us a year before what was going to happen.

02:40:16.000 But I want you to tell me now in the next year what you think is going to happen.

02:40:21.000 But before we do that, tell them about your products.

02:40:24.000 Okay.

02:40:25.000 Well, the foods that we ship out, folks, are very simply guaranteed not to have genetic alteration.

02:40:34.000 They don't have any MSG in it that will make you kind of glow in the dark.

02:40:42.000 No Mexican or Chinese imports.

02:40:47.000 The whole objective is to get food out of the warehouses and into families homes before this thing gets really goofy.

02:40:56.000 And all of these foods are dried straight from fresh raw.

02:41:00.000 You cook with them just like you do straight out of the garden.

02:41:03.000 And this is being done by the experts in Utah who wrote the book on it.

02:41:07.000 Yep, exactly.

02:41:09.000 And the difference between this, now one of the things that we tell folks, there are a couple of kinds of dehydrated foods.

02:41:19.000 One is freeze-dried and the other one is the dehydrated.

02:41:23.000 What we tell folks, now we're going to be handling a line of freeze-dried.

02:41:28.000 We've had it available for quite some time, we just don't have it up on the website because it confuses people.

02:41:34.000 The freeze-dried is about three times more expensive, takes four times the space, and is great for backpacking and camping.

02:41:42.000 And what we tell folks, until they have a three to five year supply of the dehydrated, not even to waste the resources on freeze-dried, So don't be confused by that.

02:41:52.000 One of the things that's happening, Alex, I think the folks from listening to you and from some of the things that we cover on Fearless Radio, my program, they realize that the food is absolutely excellent.

02:42:06.000 One thing that happens any time there's a panic situation or a deep concern like we have among our listeners and that you and I convey You're going to have a whole bunch of opportunists and carpetbaggers hopping on the bandwagon.

02:42:23.000 If you look at the number of food storage sites that are up right now compared to the ones that were even a month ago, it's just horrendous.

02:42:31.000 Folks, you've got to be careful.

02:42:35.000 Yeah, you're playing with your life here.

02:42:36.000 When you get storable food, you need to get the best quality.

02:42:39.000 I've chosen to get mine from the J. Michael Stevens Group four separate times now, and this stuff lasts more than ten years.

02:42:47.000 Tell them about some of the food packages.

02:42:49.000 Well, basically, the way we structure things is with a year's supply for one adult.

02:42:56.000 The objective is to have a balanced diet of fruits, vegetables, dairy products, grains, and everything that you need.

02:43:03.000 And it's extremely well balanced.

02:43:05.000 Now, because of the fact that a lot of folks are already in a situation with the economy so that they really aren't in a position to throw in a 3, 4, 5 year supply, even a 1 year supply all at once, we came up with a 2 month supply.

02:43:21.000 For $349 that is just absolutely phenomenal.

02:43:25.000 It's got 200 meals and they're pretty much prepared so that all you do is add water and cook them.

02:43:30.000 But there are a couple of things that I still need to cover with your listeners, Alex.

02:43:35.000 We need to make an announcement with regard to the wheat.

02:43:39.000 What we used to do up until about two months ago is we told folks when they ordered in their one year supply or multiples of the one year supply, That they could save quite a bit of money by picking up the wheat that would go with that out in their local areas.

02:43:58.000 That is becoming more and more impossible, so now we've started making it available to folks, but as a result of this last bunch of foolishness that's going on in the marketplace, you've got to realize, think about this folks, the farmers that are growing the wheat Are not being subsidized, like the farmers are growing the corn that are putting into the ethanol.

02:44:24.000 So as the dollar drops in value, what's going to also happen, not only is the wheat short, but what's going to happen is the farmers that have the wheat in their storage bins, getting ready to sell it, if the dollar isn't of much value, and these foreign countries come in with Euros and things like that, that do have value, they sell to them.

02:44:44.000 They're going to sell it to them.

02:44:45.000 Jesse, that's what it's like to be a third world nation, folks.

02:44:48.000 And look, it's turning out to be even worse than I thought it was.

02:44:52.000 You know, Steve here goes like, it's pretty bad, there's going to be food shortages.

02:44:55.000 And I'm like, maybe a little bit.

02:44:57.000 But he said, no, no, the dollar, fuel, then the farmers will feed it to their animals, on and on and on.

02:45:03.000 Meat goes up, delivery goes up.

02:45:04.000 It's a cascade.

02:45:06.000 And how long can you hold prices?

02:45:09.000 They're still very reasonable.

02:45:10.000 How long can you hold prices?

02:45:11.000 When will the next jump be?

02:45:13.000 Well, I tell you what, if you look at a food supply organization that has reasonable prices and is doing any kind of a sale right now, you run, don't walk away from them, because they're selling old stuff from inventory.

02:45:27.000 What we're shipping out right now... That's right, the stuff you do is, what, usually about a month old?

02:45:32.000 You just packed it?

02:45:33.000 Oh, well, no, it's packed as we get the orders.

02:45:37.000 It's a month old that we got it into the warehouse.

02:45:40.000 No, that's what I meant.

02:45:42.000 It's all fresh stuff.

02:45:43.000 And so the reason we had this last price increase, and we're going to put some stuff up on the Internet as to what caused it, the reason we had it is we had to buy By the next bunch of stuff, and it was so expensive that we had to pass some of that along.

02:45:58.000 No, no, no.

02:45:59.000 I was at a pizza place a few weeks ago, Mangia, Great Pizza, and there was a sign-up saying, we're sorry the pizzas are 40% more, but milk's more, wheat's more, it may have to go up again.

02:46:10.000 And now stores are, look, see, give them the number for the year's supply, the two-month supply, it's still very affordable compared to what the grocery store would cost.

02:46:20.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

02:46:21.000 It's past 60% savings right now.

02:46:28.000 Anyway, the phone number is 800-409-5633.

02:46:34.000 If you can do it on the internet, get up on efoodsdirect.com.

02:46:34.000 800-409-5633.

02:46:40.000 Now, I need to give you an alert, folks.

02:46:43.000 Those of you who have ordered one-year supplies or multiples of it, And have not been able to find wheat in your local areas, please contact us.

02:46:53.000 We will ship wheat, but we will only ship the amount of wheat to you that will match the number of your supplies you have.

02:47:00.000 We have to conserve the wheat that we have.

02:47:02.000 So you literally can only now sell wheat to prior customers?

02:47:07.000 We will not sell wheat separately.

02:47:12.000 We will ship it to prior customers that have not been able to get theirs based on the number of units that they need to have supplied.

02:47:18.000 The present customers, we will ship wheat to them to match what they're ordering.

02:47:26.000 We will not ship extra wheat.

02:47:28.000 We just can't because we have to have enough wheat to go with with the other foods that they're getting.

02:47:34.000 Give them a number again.

02:47:35.000 I apologize for having to limit it, but we are...

02:47:38.000 It's now happening.

02:47:39.000 What you said is now happening.

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02:47:56.000 We just love the gentleman that we have on air.

02:47:59.000 Steve is just a fabulous person.

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02:48:08.000 This is the guy.

02:48:09.000 And I've been getting food from him now for about nine years.

02:48:11.000 Folks, look, even if none of this stuff happens, but it is happening.

02:48:15.000 And let's say everything turns out okay.

02:48:17.000 This is insurance you can eat.

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02:48:31.000 Steve Shank, thanks for spending time with us.

02:48:33.000 Hey, it's nice talking with you again, Alex.

02:48:35.000 Be good.

02:48:35.000 You bet.

02:48:36.000 Let me talk to you during the break real fast.

02:48:37.000 We'll be right back with the final segment in that big Walter Cronkite clip.

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02:52:10.000 Thank you very much, Mr. President.

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02:52:14.000 World government is the structure necessary for global justice.

02:52:20.000 You, sir, you, sir, have been a lifelong advocate of this principle, and it is appropriate, therefore, that we present you with this amethyst deal.

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02:52:34.000 Those of us who are living today can truly influence the future of civilization.

02:52:39.000 We can influence whether our planet is going to live or die, whether it's going to drift into chaos and violence, or whether through a monumental educational and political effort, a monumental effort, we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual violators of that law we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual For how many thousands of years now have we humans Then what we insist on calling civilized.

02:53:07.000 And yet, in total contradiction, we also persist in the savage belief that we must occasionally, at least, settle our arguments by killing each other.

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02:53:25.000 Meanwhile, emphasizing the swap in this regard, those advocates who work for world peace by urging a system of world law and order, world government, if you please, are called impractical dreamers to yield up some of our sovereignty.

02:53:41.000 That's going to be, to many, a bitter pill.

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02:53:54.000 Today we must develop federal structures on a global level to deal with world problems.

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02:54:16.000 Most important, we should sign and ratify the Treaty for a Permanent International Criminal Court.

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02:54:33.000 Their leader, Pat Robertson, has written in a book a few years ago that we should have a world government, but only when the Messiah arrives.

02:54:46.000 He wrote, and literally, any attempt to achieve world order before that time must be the work of the devil.

02:54:53.000 Well, join me.

02:54:54.000 I'm glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.

02:54:58.000 Good evening and congratulations, Walter.

02:55:01.000 We honor you for lending your voice to the cause of human rights around the world and for your lifelong commitment to international human rights law.

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02:55:14.000 Now again, see, oh, the global government will help us and give us peace, but it's the bloodthirsty New World Order killers that are running it and causing most of the problems. 0.97

02:55:24.000 I'll be back live this Sunday, 4-6pm.

02:55:27.000 Retransmission starts.

02:55:28.000 We had an incredible Top Economist on.

02:55:31.000 We had an incredible guest about GMO Foods on.

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02:55:37.000 And the retransmission starts now at InfoWars.com on the internet.

02:55:41.000 The show continues after this break if you miss any of those incredible interviews.

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02:56:13.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

Alex Jones Show - February 29, 2008

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