Alex Jones Show - 20080501_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Yeah, they build the big guns.

00:00:04.000 Yeah, they build the death planes.

00:00:08.000 Yeah, they build all the bombs.

00:00:13.000 Yeah, they hide behind walls.

00:00:17.000 Yeah, they hide behind desks. 0.94

00:00:21.000 I just want you to know I can see through your masks.

00:00:28.000 You that never done nothing But built to destroy You play with my world Like it's your little toy You put a gun in my hand And you hide from me

00:00:54.000 Yeah, these old men that run the New World Order. 0.98

00:01:08.000 Gary Reb gets a Pulitzer Prize for exposing the fact the CIA brings in narcotics and they double-tapped him in the head and said it was a suicide.

00:01:18.000 They killed this local Palestinian activist.

00:01:22.000 Cut him all up, duct-taped him, slaughtered him, and said it was a suicide. 0.75

00:01:26.000 We talked to people, you know, the people that washed his body at the Muslim Center, he'd been tortured and cut to pieces.

00:01:32.000 And we also had people at TV stations that heard the live feeds, and when the cops fished him out, they said, oh, this guy's been murdered, all cut up, hands, legs bound.

00:01:40.000 George Humphrey's in the studio with us, and now Florida.

00:01:43.000 Police believe suicide victim is DC Madam.

00:01:46.000 She had said on this show that, oh, Dick Cheney could have been one of my clients, but I'm not going to release that information.

00:01:52.000 I'm going to go and fight this in court.

00:01:54.000 And she threatened to release the names of the hundreds of big clients she had in DC. 0.97

00:01:58.000 And man, they went ahead and convicted her, and there's no doubt they murdered her.

00:02:02.000 On air in several interviews, and we have a small staff, but we're going to dig it out.

00:02:05.000 Our listeners can go into the three interviews we had with her.

00:02:08.000 We had the last one about a month ago.

00:02:09.000 I'm going to air that in the last 30 minutes of the show today.

00:02:15.000 She was just absolutely clear.

00:02:18.000 I will never commit suicide.

00:02:19.000 I will fight this.

00:02:20.000 If I'm convicted, I will not commit suicide.

00:02:21.000 I will never kill myself.

00:02:23.000 And she made that clear repeatedly.

00:02:25.000 So listeners, go into the YouTube videos, the audios out there on the web.

00:02:29.000 Help us find it.

00:02:30.000 Call into the show.

00:02:31.000 Tell us where it is.

00:02:31.000 I got John Harmon trying to find it.

00:02:33.000 I think it's in the last interview.

00:02:34.000 I got people at the office trying to find it.

00:02:38.000 I want to say again, I am not going to kill myself.

00:02:40.000 I am not going to kill myself.

00:02:42.000 George Humphrey, former City Council member, economist, author, documentary filmmaker.

00:02:46.000 I've been fighting the New World Order for 15-plus years.

00:02:50.000 Deborah Jean Palvery, we just learned right at the end of the last segment, is dead.

00:02:54.000 Thanks for coming in.

00:02:55.000 As always, it's great to be here.

00:02:59.000 For those of you who are afraid to get involved in the fight against the New World Order because you might be ostracized or you might lose some friends, Get over it.

00:03:09.000 There are so many vibrant, wonderful, alive people.

00:03:13.000 Just coming to Alex's office.

00:03:16.000 This is the Star Command.

00:03:17.000 The energy here is so great.

00:03:21.000 Alex, it is just such a pleasure to be here.

00:03:23.000 Your passion for life.

00:03:26.000 Your passion for life is so wonderful.

00:03:30.000 You know, sometimes you yell and scream and turn people off, but you know what?

00:03:33.000 After they listen to you, they get into it.

00:03:36.000 Well, I mean, people do instinctively know that I'm telling them the truth, and they check out the facts.

00:03:40.000 Yeah.

00:03:41.000 And I love life so much, I'm willing to give mine up for other people.

00:03:45.000 Well, first of all, you're not going to be giving your life up.

00:03:47.000 You're creating more life, and by, you know what, there is no defense against the New World Order.

00:03:53.000 The only way to deal with this is to go forward, tell the truth, not be afraid.

00:03:59.000 For those of you who are out there, there's nothing, I mean, you know, yeah, there are things to be afraid of, but don't be afraid.

00:04:06.000 If we have it in our intention that we're going to win this thing, that we're going to turn this country around, is that we're going to restore The Constitution and the Republic.

00:04:16.000 And I'm not talking about a utopia.

00:04:18.000 We restore a good school system.

00:04:20.000 We restore the environment.

00:04:22.000 If we restore positive relationships between the police and the people, and the police actually become peace officers.

00:04:33.000 We have sovereignty in our country again.

00:04:35.000 We close our borders and we take care of our own people when we start manufacturing in this country again.

00:04:41.000 These are things worth fighting for.

00:04:43.000 I want to get into the positive area, but I know that Debra Jean Palfrey Would want us to expose the fact she was murdered. 1.00

00:04:51.000 Absolutely.

00:04:51.000 In fact, she said to me privately, and I know on air, that if she committed suicide, it was murder.

00:04:56.000 She was murdered.

00:04:57.000 She did not kill herself.

00:04:59.000 And I'm telling you, I will never kill myself.

00:05:01.000 And look, I'm not afraid of them killing me. 0.95

00:05:03.000 But I am afraid of them shooting me in the back of the head, blowing my brains all over the walls when my family's out of town sometime, and saying I committed suicide. 0.90

00:05:10.000 And I'm going to ask the Austin police, or if they kill me in New York or anywhere else, or any other patriot, please don't frame us. 0.91

00:05:15.000 I mean, the hitmen come and kill us, and then you go along with it? 0.98

00:05:18.000 I mean, that is so disgusting, George. 0.99

00:05:20.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:21.000 And I love your bravery.

00:05:24.000 And the fact is, to be alive is to fight evil.

00:05:29.000 And when these son-of-a-guns do stuff like this, and they've been doing it for such a long... I mean, they've been doing it for centuries.

00:05:38.000 And just in the last 15 or 20 years, you know, Waco, Oklahoma City, TWA Flight 800, you know, the list goes on and on.

00:05:46.000 It's cold-blooded murder.

00:05:48.000 And to be alive is to be in what in India they call Dharma, right action.

00:05:53.000 We have to stand up shoulder to shoulder and not ask or petition, but demand justice.

00:06:01.000 And just like that fellow who was killed here in Austin not too long ago, he was a Palestinian.

00:06:08.000 I don't know all the facts on that, but I have friends who are very good friends of his, and they said absolutely 100% he was murdered.

00:06:15.000 Oh no, I mean, they fished him out, just tortured to death, and bound hands, legs, mouth, and the first Austin Police was murdered, and the higher-ups, I mean, God!

00:06:27.000 This is, you know, if you have this, there is Forensic evidence.

00:06:32.000 You can't tie your hands up and duct tape yourself and do things like that.

00:06:37.000 So it's pretty clear that there was foul play and murder on this.

00:06:40.000 And the fact that there is not marching in the street, that there is just not massive response to this massive Injustice to this murder.

00:06:53.000 It's the same thing as King Edward I when he was killing the Scots back in the late 1200s.

00:06:58.000 You know, we need people who are brave hearts.

00:07:02.000 People like, you know, people like Alex Jones, and as importantly, to the people who are listening to this.

00:07:08.000 Have a brave heart, and together we can stop this thing.

00:07:13.000 Well, I want to be clear, George.

00:07:14.000 With me, it's not even bravery.

00:07:15.000 At my instinctive, spiritual, whatever core, I can't control myself.

00:07:20.000 I hate bullies. 0.99

00:07:20.000 I hate corrupt tyrants. 0.99

00:07:22.000 I mean, the sterilization, the murder of Africans and Latin Americans and us, and all the eugenics they carry out against us. 1.00

00:07:29.000 I mean, they hate life. 0.98

00:07:30.000 They revel in hurting innocents.

00:07:33.000 As you probably know, Mahatma Gandhi is one of my heroes, and I've spent a lot of time in India.

00:07:40.000 But even Mahatma Gandhi, who was the king, the prince of non-violence, said, it is better to go to war with a gun in your hand to defend your country than to be a coward and say you believe in non-violent civil disobedience.

00:07:53.000 We have to have courage to stand up against these rascals.

00:07:57.000 Now, it's more sophisticated.

00:07:58.000 I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's one section.

00:08:01.000 It's kind of like the Bible says, a time to live, a time to die, a time to fight, a time to sow, a time to reap.

00:08:07.000 You've got to know when it's time to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run.

00:08:11.000 I mean, when it was them peacefully being beaten by the British troops, that woke up people like George Orwell, who went back and wrote books about it.

00:08:18.000 You know, he was one of those folks, guys.

00:08:21.000 You know, there's a time for that when they're provocateuring.

00:08:24.000 That's why we don't go out and stage terror attacks, because they have to do it to blame it on us.

00:08:27.000 But if they are trying to put us on flatback trucks, take us to FEMA camps, the preachers are all over saying, turn your guns in, go to the camp, take the shot, then you don't have a choice.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, well by then it's too late.

00:08:39.000 Now is the time.

00:08:40.000 We have the beauty of a little bit of time right now to organize and first of all to educate ourselves, number one.

00:08:49.000 Number two is to create community and reaching out to dozens and dozens of other people who feel the same way that you do and then to take steps

00:09:00.000 To get into the government, to get to your city council members, to get to your county commissioners, to talk to your sheriff, to talk to people who are in other positions of power, and to demand, not ask, but to demand true justice and to stop this unbelievable, just unbelievable slave mentality That we are experiencing.

00:09:25.000 Let me talk to John real fast, because the network selectively erases about 1 out of 20 of my shows from some glitch.

00:09:30.000 Tell me Murphy's Law that that last interview isn't erased.

00:09:34.000 I got it.

00:09:34.000 You got it, good.

00:09:35.000 Are you listening to it?

00:09:36.000 Did she say that I won't commit suicide?

00:09:38.000 Yep, I got that.

00:09:38.000 We have that.

00:09:39.000 Can you cue that up, please?

00:09:41.000 Yeah, let me transfer it over.

00:09:42.000 Oh, he's transferring it over.

00:09:43.000 Oh, God.

00:09:44.000 I just...

00:09:46.000 It's getting so obvious, George.

00:09:48.000 I mean, it's just... It's been obvious for the last 20 years.

00:09:53.000 I mean, it just gets more and more and more and more obvious.

00:09:56.000 The Palestinian school teacher, Mr. Hamad, no criminal record, been wounded over there protesting in Palestine, giving him school books.

00:10:05.000 Oh, he was beloved at his school.

00:10:08.000 But I've now talked to his neighbors, I've now talked to people that knew him, talked to his best friend, his treasure.

00:10:12.000 There were Israelis running around with machine guns, talking to neighbors.

00:10:16.000 They wanted him to know they were there.

00:10:18.000 This is in the weeks before he was killed.

00:10:20.000 I mean, my God, are they going to have Israelis shoot me in my yard in front of witnesses and then the media will say I killed myself?

00:10:26.000 I mean, what does it take?

00:10:27.000 Well, they caught a truckload of Israelis the day after 9-11 in Ohio with plans to blow up a nuclear power plant down in Florida. 1.00

00:10:36.000 They also caught some in Tennessee.

00:10:37.000 They caught them in Mexico City.

00:10:38.000 And they were here without permits.

00:10:40.000 They were on illegal passports.

00:10:42.000 And lo and behold, they got a free trip back to lovely Israel.

00:10:47.000 Friends, you know, I am not for or against any of the religions.

00:10:51.000 I'm a friend to all of them, and I'm open to Israel.

00:10:54.000 But, you know, if you don't understand is that the Mossad controls this country.

00:10:59.000 It's just a fact.

00:11:00.000 And unless we boot these son of a guns out, they're going to continue to play their games. 0.98

00:11:05.000 Well, I mean, killing people in Austin, it's out of control. 0.99

00:11:08.000 Yeah!

00:11:11.000 By the way, I got death threats that night, and they went in on my Wikipedia and said I'd committed suicide on my Wikipedia.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, you know that for the last 10-12 years I've been talking to you about, you know, we've been talking together about the Mossad and how unbelievably powerful they are.

00:11:27.000 No, no, I have never debated it.

00:11:29.000 Yeah, you've never debated it.

00:11:31.000 I've just simply not myopically, because there's a lot of people that are... It's easy to get off on a tangent and think that somebody's anti-Jewish or anything like that.

00:11:40.000 Well, it also gives our enemies ways to twist.

00:11:43.000 It's effective just to get the message out about the New Order, but since we bring that up, I want to get back to her.

00:11:47.000 And if it was Eskimos, we'd be saying the same thing.

00:11:49.000 And the fact is, it's this one group of people from this one nation, and they have inordinate power in our country, and what they're doing is that they're just sucking this country dry. 0.97

00:11:59.000 Well, I want to expand on that.

00:12:02.000 People know my analogy on this.

00:12:04.000 It's like if you have five guys that rob a bank.

00:12:07.000 Okay, and one of them's a German, one of them's a Jew, one of them's an Italian, one of them's an Eskimo, like you said. 0.72

00:12:12.000 One of them's a Kibler Elf. 1.00

00:12:16.000 It doesn't give any one group cover to say there are other groups in the hierarchy.

00:12:24.000 I mean, how do you square this?

00:12:26.000 And I've got Tex Marr is coming in tomorrow.

00:12:28.000 I'm going to bring this up to him.

00:12:29.000 He focuses mainly on Israel now.

00:12:32.000 I think that's important work.

00:12:33.000 I've also got Michael Hoffman on for two hours Friday, focusing on that.

00:12:38.000 I mean, we're bringing these subjects up.

00:12:39.000 We always have had Tex Mars, and we've always had Gaylord Ross, and I've always had you on.

00:12:44.000 There's no censorship, as others have claimed.

00:12:46.000 I just have a wide show that covers a huge spectrum, but I want to be key.

00:12:51.000 I mean, I want to be very specific on this key point.

00:12:55.000 How do you square the eugenicists? 0.65

00:12:57.000 Because people say that I talk about Nazis all the time.

00:13:00.000 Prescott Bush was a Nazi. 0.52

00:13:03.000 Bush Sr.

00:13:03.000 did run the eugenics program.

00:13:04.000 They did sign China on IMF World Bank money to do that.

00:13:09.000 They do love Arnold.

00:13:11.000 So all I've ever pointed out, and there are a lot of people who love Hitler, they email me, they post on the message board, they say, don't talk about Hitler, he was good. 0.72

00:13:19.000 I know too much history.

00:13:20.000 I'm not even talking about skewed histories, I mean the real history.

00:13:23.000 I mean, Lord Milner wrote that they set Hitler up out of England to tear Europe up.

00:13:27.000 He didn't know that.

00:13:28.000 He was a wind-up toy.

00:13:29.000 They put the Communist in.

00:13:32.000 All these top globalists write books, and later they get declassified or in policy reports or Carnegie Endowment documents, that they are in control of all the groups.

00:13:41.000 Just like this top globalist puts a book out saying, we run all the major groups.

00:13:45.000 So then it doesn't even become about this group or that group.

00:13:48.000 Just the entire power structure is run.

00:13:51.000 But is Israel Hyper-dominant, is it? 0.88

00:13:54.000 One of the top three, you know, all-penultimate, it's like co-equal power with the British Anglo-American power axis, which is basically Rothschild-run.

00:14:05.000 Is that merged in with this whole, I mean, it's an amalgamation of this Germanic death cult, Illuminati, which goes back to Kabbalah itself, and that back to Egypt. 0.87

00:14:14.000 And we've had the top experts like Hoffman on about this.

00:14:17.000 And so for me, it's that Egyptian dark magic system. 0.98

00:14:22.000 Whether you believe it or not, that's what they believe.

00:14:24.000 George Humphrey.

00:14:25.000 Well, you've brought up just a ton of issues, and we just don't have the time to go into each, and being very articulate about this.

00:14:31.000 But I mean, I'm not supposed to talk about how Hitler did satanic rituals when it's admitted.

00:14:36.000 I'm not supposed to say that there's a cult going on at Bohemian Grove.

00:14:38.000 Well, there's cults all over.

00:14:40.000 Yeah, but that's my point, is that there's more to it.

00:14:43.000 You know, there's another level.

00:14:44.000 I mean, why did Henry Ford, why did the IBM, why is IBM funding all this now when they were Nazis? 0.96

00:14:50.000 I'm just saying, why did the Zionists fund Hitler and do deals with him? 0.98

00:14:55.000 You see, I'm saying there's another level.

00:14:58.000 Oh, there's so many levels, and that's why information is so important, and just to keep digging and digging and digging.

00:15:07.000 And again, I don't care whether they're Eskimos or, you know, from Australia. 1.00

00:15:13.000 It is true to say that the Nazis almost overthrew the U.S. 0.67

00:15:17.000 in the 30s, and Smedley Butler, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, went public and exposed it.

00:15:22.000 But that wasn't the Nazis, that was the Anglo-American eugenicist, which the Rothschilds contribute to. 0.90

00:15:29.000 That's what I'm saying, is that Hitler, the evidence is, was a grandson of a Rothschild. 0.91

00:15:33.000 So I'm saying there's another level here, George.

00:15:35.000 Well, they're collectivists, whether they're communist or fascist, they're collectivists.

00:15:41.000 And no matter what the name, is that there are these group of people who want to centralize power under their chosen people, and to control us.

00:15:51.000 And that's why we're here, that's why we're fighting this stuff, that's why we're exposing it.

00:15:56.000 Whether it's the Zionists, or the Nazis, or the British Royal Family, they all believe they have the super genes, they're the master race.

00:16:03.000 Old Testament, we need to go in and commit genocide, to take over the promised land, and just like, exactly, that's what we're dealing with here. 0.70

00:16:12.000 Well, that's why we're here, and I'll tell you what.

00:16:18.000 With this radio interview that you have on this woman, I think it's really going to put a good spin on it, and I sure hope that we can get some national publication on this thing, because she, just like John Tower, John Tower was killed.

00:16:31.000 That's one of the things that most people in Texas are not aware of.

00:16:34.000 They blew his plane up!

00:16:35.000 They sure did, and they blew his buddy's plane up two days before.

00:16:38.000 I mean, this guy is a 24-year-old, 24-year-old senior U.S.

00:16:44.000 Senator, and he was absolutely assassinated, and it got three minutes on national news, and it was put away.

00:16:51.000 You know, most Texans have no idea that their own United States Senator was assassinated, just like most people in Minnesota don't know that Paul Wellstone was assassinated.

00:17:02.000 You know, as Alex is saying, this stuff is very, very, very serious.

00:17:06.000 You know, they've got the velvet glove on, but they're starting to take the velvet glove off, and it's time to wake up to this first... Well, I just want to say this.

00:17:15.000 We need to list all the globalists, have their names out there so they can be punished for what they've done, and, you know, they're losing their soft power, and there was a reason their older, more sophisticated predecessors had soft power.

00:17:27.000 You guys really want to get into a hot war?

00:17:28.000 It's not going to be pretty.

00:17:31.000 So Alex, do you think we're going to bomb Iran in the next couple weeks?

00:17:34.000 I don't know.

00:17:34.000 I've got a guest actually coming up in the fourth hour to talk about that, but let's get your take on the other side.

00:17:39.000 Deborah Jean Palfrey, the D.C.

00:17:41.000 Madam, said here that she would never commit suicide, that if she dies they would murder her. 1.00

00:17:45.000 Well, they've murdered her.

00:17:46.000 We've got that audio coming up.

00:17:48.000 Stay with us.

00:17:50.000 And we're going to go over now on our video feed.

00:17:54.000 Let's continue here until we come back in a few minutes, because now what I do is sometimes, if we're really on a hot subject, we just continue.

00:18:02.000 George, you've known me even before I was on TV.

00:18:07.000 I remember 15 years ago, delivering political signs to your house, because we were for the same political people.

00:18:13.000 Buchanan and folks.

00:18:15.000 You've been fighting the New World Order for a long time.

00:18:18.000 You know I do all this legitimately.

00:18:19.000 I do this because I believe it.

00:18:21.000 I'm the real deal.

00:18:21.000 So are you.

00:18:23.000 I have a lot of different camps.

00:18:24.000 The camps that want to say it's all the Catholics that run it.

00:18:26.000 Or the camps that want to say it's all the Jews. 0.98

00:18:28.000 And they're little enclaves and they're very hateful.

00:18:32.000 And they've all been unfair about what I've really talked about here on air.

00:18:35.000 Like, I've exposed the Catholic Church being New World Order. 0.97

00:18:37.000 And the Jesuits, yeah.

00:18:38.000 And then they say I have it, it doesn't matter how many guests I have on, it just doesn't matter if I can do ten shows on it. 0.90

00:18:43.000 Just like right now, I'm talking about this with you, and there's no censorship, but because I don't like Hitler, and they email me, they say, Hitler was good, you're a lying Jew, and I'm not Jewish, it wouldn't be bad if I was.

00:18:53.000 You know, the point is that it's a tribalism and it's mindlessness and it just turns into an obsession where they never wake anybody up, they never go out and have rallies, they never go out and fight an issue, they never go out and expose any of the New World Order operations, so they just literally They even fight with each other, like the Jews run it all crowd, have like a hundred groups all fighting with each other. 0.86

00:19:16.000 Half their work is fighting with each other about who's right.

00:19:19.000 Same thing with the Catholics run it all crowd. 0.99

00:19:21.000 And I'm sorry, I've read too many of their own internal documents that have come out.

00:19:24.000 I know that to them it is a psychological warfare methodology, and they have different sub-gangs that work for them.

00:19:32.000 They'll use the Nazis, they'll use the Communists, they'll use the Jews, they'll use the Italian Mafia. 0.95

00:19:38.000 And I see the New World Order actually pushing a lot of this.

00:19:42.000 I believe that they want to actually have a rise of anti-Semitism.

00:19:47.000 Well, the definition of a patriot firing squad is a circle.

00:19:52.000 And if we really, truly, truly, truly want to restore the Republic and restore freedom and restore the environment and restore a semblance of culture in this country, is that we have to keep, as Jesse Jackson says, we have to keep our eye on the prize.

00:20:06.000 We need to start working together.

00:20:08.000 And I'll tell you what, I've made it my Deal to be friends with everybody and not go out and attack anybody.

00:20:15.000 You know, I disagree with almost everybody on some issues.

00:20:18.000 Exactly, and so you don't obsess like a crazy person and start just saying lies about people.

00:20:25.000 I've dealt with this for so long.

00:20:28.000 People tell me, why don't you interview this guy, you know, the head Catholic.

00:20:31.000 The guy says the earth is the center of the universe and is on a string.

00:20:36.000 And that flying saucers drop nuclear bombs.

00:20:38.000 I mean, I just can't be part of it.

00:20:40.000 I mean, I can't have every cult leader on.

00:20:42.000 Well, Alex, you are live right now.

00:20:44.000 Here we go.

00:20:45.000 And get the video tools you need for the information war.

00:20:48.000 We have a plan to take back our government.

00:20:50.000 Let's get into what you just said about Iran.

00:20:57.000 We're going to get into Iran.

00:21:01.000 We're going to do that in the next segment, actually.

00:21:02.000 This is a short segment right now with George Humphrey.

00:21:05.000 FairerLove.com.

00:21:07.000 Filmmaker, multi-time author.

00:21:10.000 But right now, I want to play Deborah Jean Palfrey.

00:21:14.000 This is her on the show.

00:21:15.000 What was the date on the show on the last interview with her?

00:21:18.000 March 13th, 08.

00:21:19.000 March 13th, 08.

00:21:21.000 So this is... Recent.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, this is like a month and a half ago.

00:21:26.000 And it's now May 1st, and she's clearly committed suicide on May 1st.

00:21:30.000 And folks, they've got microwave residence systems where Mama's out. 1.00

00:21:33.000 She's with Mama.

00:21:35.000 They hit her for 10 seconds, she's dead.

00:21:36.000 They got stuff where they can walk up and pat you on the shoulder and you're dead.

00:21:39.000 They got little bitty micro darts that dissolve.

00:21:42.000 You think a mosquito bites you and you die.

00:21:43.000 They had that 30 years ago.

00:21:45.000 They had declassified in the 70s, by the 50s, fast-acting cancers that kill you in a month.

00:21:50.000 I mean, they have got it all.

00:21:52.000 Let's go ahead and play her, the clip of her, the clearly murdered, ladies and gentlemen, here it is.

00:21:57.000 Well, the fact that you're so visible really protects you going on Larry King and other big shows, but you want to put it on record that you're not planning to commit suicide?

00:22:05.000 No, I'm not planning to commit suicide.

00:22:07.000 I'm planning to go into court on April 7th if indeed we do have the trial, and I do I plan on defending myself vigorously, and I plan on exposing the government in ways that, you know, I do not think they want me to expose them.

00:22:22.000 I want them to explain to me in open court why they came after me.

00:22:27.000 How does the FBI do this?

00:22:28.000 They know you had a bunch of, you know, government and cabinet and White House and Defense Department people, and they don't go after any of them.

00:22:35.000 They go after you, and then instead of just dropping and leaving you alone, They've made a huge mess out of this.

00:22:44.000 What I think happened is that they used me.

00:22:46.000 I was a hunting ground.

00:22:47.000 I keep using that term because I think it's so applicable.

00:22:49.000 I was a hunting ground.

00:22:50.000 They thought I had something perhaps.

00:22:53.000 They were watching me for years.

00:22:54.000 Again, they were not watching me for a few months.

00:22:56.000 They were watching me for anywhere from two and a half to six years.

00:22:58.000 I was a very routine person.

00:23:00.000 All of a sudden, here I go, and I abruptly quit the business.

00:23:05.000 Now, if you're watching me from afar, this could be in a very Hoover-esque-like fashion.

00:23:09.000 This could be very alarming.

00:23:11.000 She shuts down the business. 0.66

00:23:13.000 She's selling her house. 0.99

00:23:14.000 She's moving.

00:23:14.000 Oh, my God, what's going on?

00:23:16.000 They've come flying out here to California.

00:23:18.000 And it was tipped off, by the way, by a wire transfer from my bank.

00:23:22.000 That's right.

00:23:23.000 We're spying on everybody.

00:23:25.000 Final segment with our guest.

00:23:26.000 She's the DC Madame Jean Palfrey.

00:23:29.000 We'll be right back.

00:23:30.000 This goes deep.

00:23:32.000 It does go deep, and at the end of the show today, I'm going to air the whole interview.

00:23:36.000 It's about 20 minutes long, and over the next few weeks, I will air the other two lengthy, hour-long interviews with Debra Jean Palin-Freeh, unless the network's erased them again.

00:23:44.000 But not John's fault, though.

00:23:46.000 I mean, so much is going on, so much is happening, and I think in that same interview, see if you can find it, John.

00:23:52.000 He's just a superstar.

00:23:53.000 He does a job with 10 guys. 0.97

00:23:55.000 See if you can find it where I said, You know, Dick Cheney, and she says, hmm, maybe Dick Cheney, and she had said, I'm going to release the big names if you're a hypocrite and send me to jail.

00:24:04.000 And I guarantee you, they had her house bugged, they had her phone bugged, they had her mom's house bugged, they used her cell phone to listen to you even when it's off, and the minute she said, I'm going to go public, The minute she said that, that's the type of thing that would get a helicopter to come in here and shoot rockets into this office, and it wouldn't matter what the people across the street saw.

00:24:22.000 The government does stuff like that.

00:24:24.000 Say if Palfrey, this is the kind of dangerous stuff I do, this is what will get me killed about anything it ever does.

00:24:29.000 Palfrey calls here, decides to go on air with the big names. 0.96

00:24:34.000 Okay, they would have a hit team en route to kill her.

00:24:37.000 And they were unable to kill her before she went on the show. 0.99

00:24:39.000 And they'd gun her down.

00:24:39.000 It wouldn't even matter that she had ganged at it.

00:24:41.000 They would cut the power off at my office.

00:24:44.000 And then if I had been told by her what it was, they would just run over me in the street. 0.99

00:24:49.000 Cops jump out, black uniform, shoot me, wouldn't matter. 0.98

00:24:51.000 The news would say I shot myself in the front parking lot. 0.99

00:24:53.000 They don't care anymore.

00:24:55.000 George Humphrey.

00:24:56.000 Well, it must be remembered, this has gone way, way, way back.

00:24:59.000 It's pretty evident that they did the same thing to Marilyn Monroe, is that she was having a lot of trouble and she was going to go public with her affairs.

00:25:07.000 And now there's a black and white film that's confirmed with a man sodomizing her.

00:25:11.000 Yeah, and also... They're using that to blackmail the Kennedys. 0.88

00:25:14.000 ...is that there are several women that have been associated with Bill Clinton who also, uh, archicided themselves.

00:25:20.000 So this is nothing new, and it just, but it's, it's today, and it's right now, and it needs to stop.

00:25:25.000 Well, the archicides, I mean, they'd cut your arms, legs, and head off and say you killed yourself.

00:25:30.000 Yep. 0.66

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00:27:02.000 You want answers?

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00:27:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:27:13.000 Deborah Jean Palfrey, headline, PrisonPlanet.com, exclusive, D.C. Magazine.

00:27:37.000 madam predicted she would be suicided. 1.00

00:27:39.000 Rape beating, maiming, disfigurement, and more than likely murder. 0.96

00:27:44.000 Disguised in the form of just another jailhouse accident or suicide would await me.

00:27:48.000 So not only did she say here that they might kill her, or that she would never commit suicide, she said it in writings.

00:27:57.000 You've taken into custody my physical safety and most probably my very life would be in jeopardy.

00:28:01.000 She wrote in 91.

00:28:01.000 Okay, it just goes on.

00:28:04.000 Folks, bottom line, she, and I want the government to know, I know you got the phones all tapped, so it doesn't matter.

00:28:13.000 You have recordings of it.

00:28:16.000 She never told me that she had sex with Dick Cheney.

00:28:19.000 She implied that to the media.

00:28:20.000 She implied that here.

00:28:22.000 She said she might bring it out if they didn't leave her alone. 0.98

00:28:23.000 It was hypocritical. 0.67

00:28:25.000 We know there's already senators and other people she was with and the heads of, you know, agencies. 0.97

00:28:30.000 But, you know, that she sent women to. 0.99

00:28:33.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:28:35.000 So we just played that clip of her earlier, we'll play more of the interview coming up.

00:28:38.000 George, I want to get into Iran and a bunch of other issues, but this is big, this is breaking.

00:28:42.000 I also want to talk about this globalist writing a big book, former head of Kissinger Associates, that's very high powered as you know, saying, yeah, we run things, we're going to take the internet away from you, just as I said they would with internet too.

00:28:53.000 the ways they're going to do it.

00:28:54.000 We're going to take your freedoms. 0.98

00:28:55.000 We're militarizing the police.

00:28:56.000 We're getting rid of the U.S. Global government, it's already here.

00:28:59.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

00:29:01.000 6,000 of us rule you.

00:29:02.000 It's all over.

00:29:03.000 You want to comment on that?

00:29:05.000 I could talk all day and all tomorrow and for the next week about what you're talking about.

00:29:11.000 I want to thank you for having G. Edward Griffin on your show the other day.

00:29:16.000 And he was here in town the other day.

00:29:18.000 And he is another fine, fine gentleman who is talking about and informing people in very, very intelligent and clear ways about the reality of what is going on and providing us, just like you are, ways that we as individuals, instead of feeling ways that we as individuals, instead of feeling disempowered or disconnected, can make a difference.

00:29:40.000 And one thing that is so important is that each and every person listening is a part of this puzzle.

00:29:46.000 And either you're part of the solution or part of the problem.

00:29:49.000 And every person listening, no matter what your race, your color, or how much money you got in your pocket, you can and will make a difference.

00:29:56.000 And we have to come together right now.

00:29:59.000 And they always talk about the Mayan calendars 2012.

00:30:03.000 And I don't know how much stock I put into that.

00:30:06.000 It's a nice symbology.

00:30:08.000 But if you look at the Gregorian, the changes that Pope Gregory made, 2012 is right now.

00:30:14.000 We're right in the middle of it on a symbolic level.

00:30:18.000 The Shinola has hit the fan folks.

00:30:22.000 Hillary Clinton running for president says that she's the peace candidate, but that she wants to up the war in Afghanistan.

00:30:29.000 We just had more casualties in Iraq this last month than we have for last year.

00:30:35.000 It is very, very obvious that the crazies that are controlling the White House right now are doing everything that they can To create a situation in which we go in, right now, in the next couple weeks, in Bob Moran.

00:30:50.000 I don't think it's going to happen, because I don't even think with their insane, insane minds, that they're going to do it, because they don't have the troops, and even if you level Tehran, they're not going to give up. 0.50

00:31:02.000 And Tehran is a very, very different deal.

00:31:05.000 It's three times larger than Iraq. 0.98

00:31:08.000 There's, you know, many more people, and they're Persians instead of Arabs, and they're much better educated people, and there is no way in the world, and besides that, both China and Russia, both China and Russia, both of which have the big one, have been getting real, real close with Tehran in the last year and a half. 0.95

00:31:30.000 And I'll tell you what, Putin is an amazing guy.

00:31:33.000 He is really standing up to Bush these last couple of years.

00:31:38.000 Even though the Carnegie Endowment on Peace basically runs Russia, I think there's another level to it.

00:31:42.000 There's levels within levels within levels.

00:31:46.000 On my streams, we're going to just continue at InfoWars.com.

00:31:49.000 We'll be right back with everybody else in three minutes.

00:31:56.000 George continuing, I'm not disagreeing with you that Putin's seized some of the oligarch's money, he's arrested like three of them, and every time it comes out in the news, well the Rothschilds really owned it, so the person he arrested was just a front.

00:32:08.000 Of course the Rothschilds are just financing McCain, and financing Hillary, both, and Obama, but they don't exist.

00:32:15.000 As some newspapers say, they don't even exist, they're not real.

00:32:20.000 Well, everything is an illusion.

00:32:22.000 As Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in 1937, he said, nothing happens in Washington or around the world without the inter-elite making it happen.

00:32:32.000 And if that happened in 1937, the technology has increased a thousandfold, and quite clearly the centralization of the technology through the NSA and CIA and all the other

00:32:45.000 uh... alphabet agencies is increased and the power of the of the people of power the middle class is decreased relatively but but but there are still nationalists that are left in in in the old soviet union in russia and it's my belief and i hope i'm correct is that they have the the predominant ear of putin right now putin's walking a fine line between the rothschilds

00:33:11.000 and and the nationalists there and remember is that the ashkenazis went after russia the first time they they they they targeted russia because the roman office and i'm not supporting any of the well i'm not taking sides on this but the roman office would never let The Rothschilds come in and take over their banking system, and that is why Russia got hacked first.

00:33:34.000 Well, that's why Serbia just got attacked. 0.86

00:33:35.000 It was a leftover.

00:33:36.000 I mean, they told them, the IMF said, let us run your bank, and take our private central bank, and they had their own factories, own system.

00:33:44.000 I mean, Europeans were vacationing there.

00:33:47.000 Look, the 66 rogue nations are any nation they don't own.

00:33:50.000 And just them coming in and saying, oh, Kosovo is an independent nation now.

00:33:56.000 This is unbelievable that this was allowed to happen.

00:34:01.000 And they used, again, Al Qaeda.

00:34:03.000 To attack Al Zohari, the number two in Al Qaeda, who now says 9-11 truthers work for the Iranians.

00:34:10.000 I mean, just putting out CIA statements... It's laughable.

00:34:14.000 He admittedly was commanding forces for the CIA.

00:34:17.000 That's admitted!

00:34:18.000 And we're not talking about in the 80s, we're talking about in 1998, 1999, 1997 in Serbia.

00:34:24.000 Yeah, and I was in Croatia this last summer, and other parts of Europe and Eastern Europe, and the people there have a much, much higher awareness of what is going on.

00:34:35.000 They see through this whole deal.

00:34:37.000 They understand that the power elite, the Rothschilds, you know, whatever name you want to put on this.

00:34:42.000 We'll be right back.

00:34:42.000 Hold on, we've got to go back live on the main network.

00:34:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:34:47.000 Stay with us.

00:34:47.000 with us.

00:34:47.000 Here we go.

00:34:47.000 3-7-0-8.

00:34:49.000 Big Brother.

00:34:58.000 Mainstream media.

00:35:00.000 Government cover-ups.

00:35:02.000 You want answers?

00:35:03.000 Well, so does he.

00:35:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:35:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:35:14.000 Look at the size of that thing!

00:35:18.000 Cut the chatter red, too.

00:35:20.000 Lock your X-foils in attack position while I cut across their axes and draw their fire. 1.00

00:35:26.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are fighting the New World Order. 0.96

00:35:28.000 They're killing us left and right.

00:35:31.000 But they're getting exposed all over the world.

00:35:34.000 Major issues are developing everywhere.

00:35:37.000 News is coming in so fast.

00:35:43.000 Brandi Britton found dead in her Baltimore home.

00:35:50.000 Brandi Britton She worked for Palfrey.

00:35:57.000 No, I know, I, I, oh my God.

00:36:01.000 The lady that worked, that we called to set up the interview, that worked for Palfrey's dead. 1.00

00:36:06.000 They killed her. 0.99

00:36:07.000 I mean, they'll be killing all her girls. 1.00

00:36:12.000 They'll be shooting them, throwing them off bridges, and the cowardly yuppies out here will say, oh no, it's quite normal. 0.99

00:36:20.000 Brandi Britton found dead in her Baltimore home. 0.97

00:36:23.000 Alexis is sophisticated, refined, educated, and articulate.

00:36:26.000 This may be Dick Cheney's girl.

00:36:28.000 God, man.

00:36:30.000 She has two bachelors of science. 1.00

00:36:31.000 I just said earlier in the last hour, get ready for him to kill a bunch of people.

00:36:37.000 Remember Jack Ruby, is that six or seven of the girls who worked in his strip club mysteriously suicided themselves within a year after the Kennedy assassination. 0.70

00:36:47.000 So again, this is nothing new.

00:36:49.000 This is one more part in the chain of the evil that is going on.

00:36:53.000 And I really appreciate what you're doing, Alex.

00:36:55.000 But she'd been convicted!

00:36:57.000 I guarantee you she was trying to get out of the country, keep her mouth shut. 1.00

00:37:00.000 I guess they just got to tie up loose ends. 1.00

00:37:02.000 I wonder how many girls they're going to kill. 1.00

00:37:05.000 Geez, man, they're so evil. 1.00

00:37:06.000 But to them, it's war. 1.00

00:37:07.000 I mean, they kill a million Iraqis. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Why not kill these girls? 1.00

00:37:11.000 Alexis is sophisticated, refined. 1.00

00:37:13.000 Oh, by the way, you think you're going to get away with this?

00:37:14.000 You're all losing your pension funds.

00:37:16.000 They're going to take everything you've got.

00:37:17.000 By giving in to these guys, you let them win.

00:37:19.000 They're going to have their way with you now. 0.73

00:37:22.000 I am just blown away right now.

00:37:23.000 Let me read this.

00:37:24.000 Alexis is sophisticated, refined, educated, and articulate.

00:37:27.000 She has two bachelor's degrees of science, one in biology and the other in sociology.

00:37:32.000 She holds a Ph.D.

00:37:33.000 from an elite university.

00:37:34.000 Oh, yeah, she killed herself a few months ago.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:37:45.000 Same thing though, they're getting rid of the loose ends.

00:37:47.000 And this is the one that Palfrey was hinting was with Cheney.

00:37:54.000 We'll see what happens.

00:37:55.000 You know, I've forgotten about her killing herself in suspicious circumstances.

00:37:59.000 Well, I know you've had Kathy O'Brien on your show before.

00:38:02.000 Yes.

00:38:03.000 And Kathy O'Brien, for fifteen years, has been talking about this in her book, Transformation Over America.

00:38:08.000 Cheney likes women.

00:38:09.000 He's one of the few in the guild.

00:38:12.000 He won't touch men. 1.00

00:38:15.000 He likes to rape women and break their jaws. 1.00

00:38:17.000 His favorite thing. 1.00

00:38:19.000 Reporting, according to her.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, and for those of you who have not read the book, Transformation Over America, it is one of the saddest books that you will ever read, but it is one of the most educational.

00:38:29.000 And by the way, when I snuck in the grove, and I got other pieces later, what she's saying fits with stuff that only you'd have to be in there to know.

00:38:37.000 And I've been in the Grove also, and you know that little hotel right outside there? 0.73

00:38:42.000 That's where they keep all the prostitutes that they used to bring in there, and then they would snuff them. 1.00

00:38:46.000 In Monterey, the little town right outside? 0.98

00:38:48.000 Yeah, and they would keep them there, and then when they got too old, they'd snuff them.

00:38:52.000 You know, I mean, this is unfortunately...

00:38:57.000 It's sad, but it's true. 1.00

00:38:58.000 And the fact is that this is the only radio station that I know that is talking about this stuff as clearly.

00:39:05.000 Now, there's a few others that are doing it, and I really appreciate it.

00:39:08.000 But they're mainly obsessed with one issue or the other.

00:39:10.000 Well, anybody who has the courage to talk about this stuff has just got tremendous courage, because the truth has to come out.

00:39:19.000 Well, here's the deal.

00:39:20.000 These same guys are the ones who are genetically modifying everything, are giving rise to super bacteria, super viruses.

00:39:26.000 They're the ones causing so much destruction, super weapons.

00:39:30.000 And in their writings, they say, we are nihilistic, we are destructive, we are killers. 0.60

00:39:35.000 Well, they're vampires.

00:39:36.000 They have a separation consciousness, and they believe that the only way they get power is by taking the energy or the power of somebody else.

00:39:46.000 And quite clearly, anybody who really is in connection with Source or God or whatever you want to call it, the creative energy knows that there is infinite Source out there and there's infinite prosperity and health and love for it. 0.92

00:39:59.000 These people damn that up.

00:40:00.000 They hold it all to themselves. 0.98

00:40:02.000 And what they are doing is that they're doing everything they can through the food, through our education system, through the media, to cut us off from the reality that we are divine beings, that we are spiritual beings having a human experience.

00:40:02.000 Absolutely.

00:40:18.000 And they want us to believe that we're human beings having an occasional spiritual experience.

00:40:24.000 Through the change of the food, through the fluoride, through the chemtrails, through the insane television set, through this insanity with football, and I love football, but this constant destruction of the consciousness of the people of this world, not just in the United States, but throughout this whole world, they are making the people slaves, and they're doing a heck of a good job at it.

00:40:47.000 Absolutely!

00:40:49.000 We're not going to take it.

00:40:50.000 The tide has changed.

00:40:53.000 They know it.

00:40:53.000 They can feel it.

00:40:54.000 The momentum has changed.

00:40:57.000 Fifteen years ago, you talk about this stuff, and people would look at you and say, you're crazy.

00:41:02.000 Ten years ago, they'd get in your face and be so mad.

00:41:05.000 Now, wherever I go, people are coming and talking to me.

00:41:10.000 They're sharing information.

00:41:11.000 They're bringing me stories.

00:41:13.000 They're sharing this information with their friends and their family, and because we have the objective information, and because we are supporting the universal law, that all human beings are part of this creation, and that this world, and this culture, and this thing called our Constitutional Republic are worth preserving.

00:41:33.000 They are.

00:41:34.000 I actually had my news article in here that Paul Watson wrote about this top globalist, head of the Kissinger Group, where he just comes out and he admits everything.

00:41:43.000 It was here in my stack, but while I'm finding that, one example of how this huge awakening is taking place is Ron Paul's book comes out today and it's number one on Amazon.

00:41:54.000 By the way, we sell it at InfoWars if you want to support us too.

00:41:57.000 Have the book there discounted with some other things.

00:42:02.000 You know, I'm so freaked out by what's happening.

00:42:03.000 So focused, really.

00:42:05.000 Not even freaked out with the word, so focused.

00:42:07.000 Now, I get more and more focused every day that I don't even spend time plugging my books and videos and things we sell.

00:42:12.000 A, that supports us, but B, more importantly, these are powerful films, whether it's Washington, You're Fired.

00:42:18.000 That we carry discounted, or this isn't even available yet until the end of the month, but it's available here.

00:42:23.000 We have it.

00:42:24.000 American Drug War that I consulted on and that I'm in.

00:42:26.000 Exposing how they bring the drugs in and how it's all a big scam.

00:42:30.000 And this is starting to come out.

00:42:32.000 This is starting to happen.

00:42:36.000 Here is the story.

00:42:38.000 Elitist Blueprint for World Government Revealed.

00:42:40.000 I'm going to put this up on the document cam for everybody.

00:42:45.000 And you can see the cover of the book here if you're watching on PrisonPlanet.TV right now.

00:42:53.000 You can see the cover of the book and it's got the globe with a key connected.

00:42:59.000 Attached to it.

00:43:00.000 Hard to talk and run the studio here.

00:43:02.000 I'm getting better at it, though.

00:43:04.000 Superclass is the name of the book, and this is the head of Kissinger Associates, one of the head guys of the Carnegie Endowment for Peace, which causes war.

00:43:14.000 And in here, they just come right out and say, we're taking your freedom, we're going to take the web, we're going to take your property, we're going to rule you, we're going to get rid of your countries, due process. 0.70

00:43:25.000 And he goes and gives interviews basically saying, but it's a good idea because we're the 6,000 experts and we know best.

00:43:32.000 Your comments on David Rothkopf.

00:43:36.000 This is just one more of dozens and dozens of examples, going back to Adam Weishauf in 1776, going through Marx and Engels, going through Albert Pike, going through Lenin and Stalin, and going through all the socialists and the communists and the collectivists, and now what we call the ultra-capitalists, which are not capitalists at all.

00:44:01.000 They're monopoly capitalists!

00:44:02.000 They're monopoly capitalists, and it's a cabal of people.

00:44:05.000 You know, Kissinger has been saying, we've got dozens and dozens of things from Rothschild and Kissinger and from Rockefellers saying the exact same thing.

00:44:16.000 And this, you know, I became aware of this not only in my mind and my intellect, but my heart and my whole being, you know, 15 years ago.

00:44:26.000 And so I am fully aware of this.

00:44:29.000 And, you know, the fact is, is that these people are living in separation consciousness.

00:44:34.000 They consider human life to be trivial.

00:44:37.000 They consider only themselves and their own family to be of value.

00:44:41.000 And that's a key point. 0.99

00:44:42.000 You know, once you can decide to kill a million Iraqis, bomb them, once Madeleine Albright in an NBC interview can say, yeah, 700,000 dead Iraqi kids. 0.99

00:44:51.000 Was it worth it? 0.99

00:44:52.000 And she said, yep.

00:44:53.000 You know, it's worth it.

00:44:54.000 But if it's her kids, she's not going to say that.

00:44:57.000 And see, they tell us there's no morals.

00:44:58.000 They tell us nothing matters.

00:45:00.000 They tell us they don't have to follow the rules, but we do.

00:45:03.000 This is just an elitist argument they use. 1.00

00:45:05.000 They're absolute scum. 1.00

00:45:07.000 And here's the deal. 1.00

00:45:07.000 I want the viewers to know this. 1.00

00:45:09.000 It's either us or them.

00:45:11.000 You know, and here's the problem.

00:45:13.000 A normal person, a good person, loves other people, does some wrong things, gets competitive, but feels guilty about it.

00:45:19.000 Has that, you know, that connection to everybody else.

00:45:21.000 Understands we're all interconnected.

00:45:23.000 That's why you don't want to do something bad to somebody.

00:45:25.000 It's because you feel like you're doing it to yourself because in the law of the universe you are. 0.97

00:45:29.000 But these people are cancer. 0.99

00:45:31.000 They grow. 1.00

00:45:32.000 They control.

00:45:33.000 They metastasize.

00:45:34.000 They think they're winning.

00:45:35.000 They're really an anathema.

00:45:36.000 They're really a malfunction.

00:45:38.000 They're really like antimatter in the rest of this universe.

00:45:41.000 And to them, I mean, it means nothing to kill people. 0.83

00:45:44.000 It means nothing to kill women. 0.99

00:45:45.000 It means nothing to rape children. 1.00

00:45:47.000 To them, raping a child is like eating a hamburger. 1.00

00:45:50.000 It's an inanimate object for them. 1.00

00:45:52.000 It's screaming.

00:45:53.000 It's pain.

00:45:54.000 It's about their power.

00:45:55.000 And they've just convinced you and conned you to not care, and they've shown you and glorified murderers and torturers on TV so you would fantasize along with them, so you would accept their activities to make our atmosphere the way their atmosphere is.

00:46:10.000 You see, they are seducing us all into evil because they need to have us go along with it to be able to carry it out.

00:46:16.000 And so this is life and death.

00:46:17.000 All of you out there watching need to know, this is absolute life and death.

00:46:21.000 They are coming down.

00:46:22.000 They are poisoning you.

00:46:23.000 They are carrying out eugenics against you. 0.97

00:46:25.000 And we're going to just keep talking during this four-minute break.

00:46:27.000 If you're an InfoWars.com listener, or if you're watching us right now on PrisonPlanet.tv, we'll be back in four minutes on the main radio networks.

00:46:35.000 Stay with us.

00:46:37.000 Last ten minutes with George Humphrey.

00:46:39.000 Again, go to the InfoWars.com streams and you can listen there if you'd like.

00:46:42.000 If not, we'll be back in four minutes.

00:46:44.000 Please stay with us.

00:46:45.000 George Humbert, we're going to come back and talk about whatever subjects you want.

00:46:57.000 But right now in the four minutes we've got any other subjects, topics, things you want to get out.

00:47:01.000 Well, I think that the most important thing is, I would guess that probably 75% plus of your listeners, if not a higher percentage, are totally aware of the reality and the danger and the darkness and the evil of the New World Order.

00:47:19.000 And the question right now is, how do we respond to this?

00:47:22.000 Do we respond in fear, or do we really want to win this thing?

00:47:26.000 Do we really, really, really want to win this thing, or are we going to be... I think the answer is to jump.

00:47:33.000 Just commit, and once you've jumped, there's no turning back.

00:47:36.000 Absolutely.

00:47:36.000 I mean, that's a trick in football.

00:47:37.000 Not that I was a great player, but I was okay for a little guy.

00:47:40.000 I only weighed 160 pounds.

00:47:42.000 Now I weigh 250.

00:47:45.000 They always taught you, just don't go 110% and you don't get hurt as much.

00:47:49.000 When you don't care, when you fully commit, you've got a lot more strength and your mind's in control.

00:47:54.000 You're kind of on that side of your brain that Luke Skywalker's in when he doesn't think, he shoots the photon torpedo into the Death Star.

00:48:00.000 Go ahead and talk about that.

00:48:02.000 Yeah, and absolutely is that when you are totally in the moment and committed to what you're doing, you have ten times more power.

00:48:10.000 And so many of the patriot people I know who say they're patriots, they're just so wishy-washy.

00:48:15.000 They're front porch patriots.

00:48:17.000 They can talk about it, but they don't do anything.

00:48:20.000 And the reality, though, is if we play their game, if we play the game of the established media, if we play the game of the corporate borg, we're going to lose this thing.

00:48:31.000 They have more guns.

00:48:32.000 They've got more money.

00:48:33.000 They've got positions of power.

00:48:35.000 That's just the reality.

00:48:36.000 And they cheat, and they're deceptive, and they've got total will.

00:48:39.000 Yes, and they don't play by the rules.

00:48:43.000 So the reality is, is that, you know, even though we're greater in number, Is that they have more of the material weapons, but we have what's something which is ten times more valuable.

00:48:57.000 We have moral right.

00:48:58.000 We have universal law.

00:49:00.000 We have God's energy on our side.

00:49:03.000 God did not create this beautiful, beautiful planet for us to destroy this and for people to live in abject terror.

00:49:13.000 We as human beings are not animals.

00:49:16.000 Christina Ebersole says this.

00:49:17.000 She says that justice bends towards those that stand up.

00:49:23.000 The law of the universe bends towards justice.

00:49:25.000 And the enemy knows that.

00:49:27.000 That's why they always want the positions of power, the high ground.

00:49:29.000 That's why they're so afraid of us.

00:49:31.000 But it's true.

00:49:32.000 The founder of the Texas Rangers said, a man in the wrong can't stand up to a man on the right who keeps on coming.

00:49:39.000 Absolutely.

00:49:39.000 And the fact is, is that more and more and more people every hour, every day, every month are waking up to this reality and the reality of this new world order.

00:49:52.000 But even which I call the first awakening, but even more importantly, people are waking up to their own personal power, their spiritual connection with source, that they're aware of the law of attraction.

00:50:05.000 They're aware of the law of intention that we are we are manifest creators in this planet.

00:50:11.000 Just like Jesus said to his disciples, you'll go out and do greater miracles than I will.

00:50:16.000 And they all went out and did the they healed people all over.

00:50:19.000 And every single person listening to this has as much power as myself or Alex.

00:50:26.000 And you just have to believe in yourself.

00:50:31.000 So if you really are truly committed to a world where we get rid of this separation consciousness, with this terror, and you want to bring back justice, You have to become first aware of your own connection with God.

00:50:47.000 Stay there.

00:50:48.000 Stay there.

00:50:48.000 We're going live again.

00:50:49.000 Okay.

00:50:50.000 There's a woman in the street.

00:50:50.000 Online today.

00:50:59.000 She's got a baby in her hand.

00:51:02.000 She wants another hit. 1.00

00:51:03.000 She wants another hit. 1.00

00:51:33.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:51:34.000 Any way I can.

00:51:36.000 We've got to rock in the free world.

00:51:40.000 Final segment with George Humphrey.

00:51:42.000 Then we're going to get into some really serious issues with global water, the climate, what's happening.

00:51:48.000 And then we've got Professor Michel Chassidovsky on his view.

00:51:53.000 Will we be attacking Iran? 0.79

00:51:54.000 What's the globalist's next move?

00:51:55.000 What does he think of the three major candidates?

00:51:59.000 And I'm going to air in the last 30 minutes the Barbara Jean Palfrey clip.

00:52:05.000 One of the girls that worked for her that reportedly was visiting with somebody at the White House Uh, you get killed saying it, but hey, so what?

00:52:12.000 I only live once, so I might as well call it away.

00:52:14.000 I already jumped off the cliff, it doesn't matter.

00:52:17.000 Uh, and she killed herself suspiciously, now Deborah Jean Palfrey, who said she would never kill herself, is dead.

00:52:23.000 Uh, we got about four minutes left, uh, and other, other things you think need to be covered, other things we should go over.

00:52:30.000 George Humphrey.

00:52:30.000 Well, I think the most important thing is that the people who are listening to this show are committed to the Republic, they're committed to peace, they're committed to justice, they're committed to doing things the right way and to their families.

00:52:43.000 And to do so, we have to go from From a fear consciousness to a consciousness that being totally aware of your own personal power, because no matter how much information you know, if you consider yourself, if you think of yourself a victim, if you keep watching the television, if you keep believing the race between McCain and Hillary and Obama is the real thing, if you keep watching about whether Bernanke is raising or lowering

00:53:11.000 I follow the economics all day long, but the whole situation out there is an illusion.

00:53:19.000 If we really want to restore this country, if we want to clean up this environment, we have to come together in groups.

00:53:26.000 We have to create community.

00:53:30.000 You know, more people in this world than there ever has been, there's less and less community.

00:53:35.000 There's more and more fear.

00:53:37.000 As the kids are spending so much time going on MySpace and the computer, you know, they're meeting people through the computer instead of just walking down the street and meeting their neighbors.

00:53:49.000 And we have to realize that God did not, does not, and did not create junk.

00:53:54.000 Each and every one of us is a powerful, powerful soul.

00:53:59.000 And that this day and time and this moment is key in the evolution of this world.

00:54:05.000 And who knows what the results are.

00:54:07.000 If we continue to be victims, if we continue to be slaves.

00:54:10.000 Well, I want to be clear.

00:54:12.000 You need to choose to be in control of your own destiny, which is what God who created the universe.

00:54:16.000 And even if you don't believe in God, everybody knows you should be in control of your own destiny.

00:54:21.000 The New Order lies and says it's all science, it's all chemicals, you have no free will.

00:54:25.000 That's bull.

00:54:25.000 They know you've got free will.

00:54:26.000 Yeah, they want to create a materialistic, secular, atheistic... Where they program you.

00:54:31.000 But that's the key here.

00:54:33.000 Even if they kill me, or set me up, or put me in prison, or do that to George... Which they're not going to do.

00:54:36.000 Which they're not going to do.

00:54:37.000 Pray for us.

00:54:38.000 The point is, is that we win.

00:54:40.000 Because we made the decision to put ourselves in the way of the fist, and we know striking us down will make us more powerful than they can possibly imagine.

00:54:48.000 And they know that.

00:54:50.000 Okay.

00:54:50.000 They know that.

00:54:51.000 They're afraid it'll come out that Cheney's got, you know, hookers. 1.00

00:54:54.000 And that's why they're having to kill these women. 1.00

00:54:56.000 The point is, they are scared. 1.00

00:54:57.000 They are weak. 0.97

00:54:58.000 They are bad. 0.88

00:54:59.000 And Cheney's old news now.

00:55:00.000 I mean... Yeah, they're moving on.

00:55:02.000 They're just cleaning up some loose ends.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, they're just cleaning up loose ends.

00:55:06.000 And, you know, who's taking Cheney's position, who knows.

00:55:09.000 But the point is, is that they're out there And we can't keep focusing on them.

00:55:14.000 We have to create our own communities, our own economies.

00:55:17.000 We have to take care of our health.

00:55:19.000 We have to do the things to make ourselves healthy.

00:55:22.000 Exactly.

00:55:23.000 I don't obsess on them. 1.00

00:55:24.000 I think they're pathetic, they're scum, but I don't fight them because I hate them. 1.00

00:55:29.000 That's 25% of it. 1.00

00:55:31.000 75% of it is my love of everybody else.

00:55:33.000 Because I love happy people.

00:55:35.000 I love humanity.

00:55:36.000 I love beauty.

00:55:36.000 But see, they're greedy.

00:55:37.000 They're envious. 0.99

00:55:38.000 They're hateful.

00:55:39.000 But we're opposite.

00:55:40.000 We need to work together.

00:55:42.000 And that doesn't mean going and joining one group.

00:55:44.000 That means just having a better attitude.

00:55:46.000 Realizing we're going to win.

00:55:47.000 Realizing that if they nuke us tomorrow, we still won. 0.99

00:55:51.000 Because they're losers to begin with. 1.00

00:55:52.000 Only a loser would want to go do all these horrible, evil things. 0.98

00:55:56.000 Well, Alex, I really, as always, I always energize by coming around here.

00:56:02.000 You are so cool!

00:56:02.000 I love you, man!

00:56:03.000 I get energized around you, George!

00:56:06.000 You're absolutely the best, and for the people listening, support Alex, buy his tapes, buy his books, listen to him, tell your friends, and we need to create that critical mass.

00:56:17.000 We're getting closer and closer.

00:56:19.000 Every one of you.

00:56:20.000 One of you listening.

00:56:21.000 Maybe the one that pushes it over the edge.

00:56:22.000 And if every one of you will just go to one of your friends today and bring the subject up.

00:56:27.000 Just talk to them.

00:56:28.000 Commit.

00:56:29.000 Yes.

00:56:30.000 Create a larger and larger awareness of what's going on and realize that we're going to win this thing.

00:56:36.000 We're going to restore the republic.

00:56:37.000 GeorgetownFreeFearLove.com.

00:56:38.000 Thank you, sir.

00:56:39.000 I love you, my brother.

00:56:39.000 Good seeing you.

00:56:40.000 See ya.

00:56:40.000 We're on the march.

00:56:43.000 Go ahead and get the next guest on, Admiral.

00:56:45.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:56:46.000 Standing by.

00:56:46.000 Alex Jones and the G.

00:56:48.000 Okay.

00:56:48.000 Thank you.

00:57:24.000 Thank you.

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01:00:02.000 Look out your window, baby, and a scene you like to catch.

01:00:07.000 Vandy's playing Dixie, the man at his hand outstress. 0.55

01:00:12.000 Could be the pure, could be the local breeze.

01:00:18.000 Yeah, sometimes, Satan.

01:00:21.000 Yeah, sometimes, Satan.

01:00:25.000 Yeah, now we come as a man of peace.

01:00:28.000 We got sweet years together.

01:00:34.000 We got harmonious times.

01:00:36.000 Know every song of love that ever has been sung.

01:00:41.000 But intentions can be evil.

01:00:43.000 Both hands can be full of reason.

01:00:47.000 Know that sometimes, Satan.

01:00:53.000 Cause every man of need .

01:00:58.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're about to go to our guest.

01:01:00.000 I appreciate him joining us.

01:01:03.000 Atletus Blueprint for World Government Revealed.

01:01:07.000 Super class, the global power elite and the world they are making.

01:01:11.000 And it's all admitted that they're taking our liberties, destroying our countries, transferring those powers to a private global government, that they're going to use a police state to control us, that they're going to shut down the free internet exactly as Internet2 says they will, exactly as I've told you as I'm going off their own policy reports.

01:01:27.000 by David Rothkopf and uh... this fellow, of course, heads up Kissinger Associates, Carnegie Endowment for Peace.

01:01:36.000 Yeah, sometimes, Satan!

01:01:38.000 He comes as a man of peace!

01:01:41.000 The Church Committee got their own documents, how they start wars, fund Hitler, always trying to destroy things, and the head of the Council on Foreign Relations recently republished a Club of Rome report from 1992 1993, put it out last year, where he said, oh, global warming's not man-made and it's not real, but we're going to use it as a unifying effect so that the state directed by us can, quote, wage war against humanity, making humans the enemy. 0.54

01:02:07.000 They mean the predator class against us, the enemies.

01:02:11.000 And now they want to put up $5.6 billion in, quote, phone booth size scrubbers that suck up deadly CO2. 0.81

01:02:18.000 They've now listed the UN as a toxic chemical.

01:02:23.000 Totally ridiculous, like listing H2O or salt as a deadly weapon, or oxygen for that matter.

01:02:29.000 And he says in there, we're not just going to use terrorism as a way to wage war on the population. 0.55

01:02:35.000 This is the head of the CFR, our real government.

01:02:37.000 He says, we will use global warming!

01:02:41.000 And then, of course, going back to the Club of Rome in 1968.

01:02:41.000 1993.

01:02:43.000 It's all in my film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.

01:02:46.000 You need to get Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement on DVD at Infowars.com or online.

01:02:51.000 Watch it at PrisonPlanet.tv.

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01:03:02.000 We appreciate you.

01:03:04.000 So that's what's going on.

01:03:06.000 And I thought I would get Timothy F. Ball on.

01:03:09.000 He's a PhD, retired university professor and global warming skeptic.

01:03:12.000 He heads the Natural Resources Stewardship Project and formerly head of the activist organization Friends of Science, which was funded by energy companies.

01:03:20.000 That's what That's what we see here out of the good old folks at Wikipedia.

01:03:27.000 And the Rockefellers are trying to basically fire Rex Tillerson of ExxonMobil because he won't join along. 0.77

01:03:34.000 Hey, I'm not funded by ExxonMobil.

01:03:36.000 Let me just tell you something.

01:03:37.000 I know carbon dioxide is what plants breathe.

01:03:39.000 I know it's been 14 times higher in the last 200,000 years.

01:03:43.000 I know that it makes more oxygen that we breathe.

01:03:46.000 And they've got a new environmental group today that's just cut down trees that they're creating CO2, which they do exhale CO2 as well as oxygen.

01:03:53.000 They're now saying, kill the trees!

01:03:55.000 These people, at the low level, are cult members.

01:03:58.000 At the highest level, it's because they want a global tax that is stated.

01:04:02.000 We sued and got the SPP documents last year from the BAMF Canada 2006 North American Union meeting, and it said it's a fraud, but that they want to use it as a way to tax us.

01:04:14.000 And he has an amazing background.

01:04:16.000 He's called the Water Man.

01:04:17.000 He's an expert on global water, an expert on what's really happening with CO2.

01:04:21.000 Thank you for coming on, Professor Timothy F. Ball.

01:04:27.000 Well, thanks kindly for the opportunity.

01:04:28.000 And just a little comment.

01:04:30.000 Shakespeare said, even the devil can use the scriptures in his arguments.

01:04:34.000 Exactly.

01:04:37.000 Well, the Bible says he poses as an angel of light.

01:04:42.000 You just heard my rant.

01:04:43.000 I've never talked to you before.

01:04:44.000 I did hear you on Coast to Coast AM.

01:04:46.000 What's your take?

01:04:47.000 I mean, first off, boil it down.

01:04:49.000 Why are they pushing a global warming scam?

01:04:51.000 What's the truth?

01:04:52.000 What's the real science?

01:04:54.000 And then let's get into water.

01:04:56.000 Is it really scarce like they're trying to fearmonger now?

01:05:00.000 Okay, in some areas the water is short, but they're usually self-inflicted wounds.

01:05:07.000 For example, municipalities using water as a loss leader to attract industry and not really taking into account the cost of delivery and dealing with the sewage waste.

01:05:19.000 So there are some small areas, but overall it's not a problem, not one that the technology isn't available to resolve.

01:05:28.000 But with regard to the climate change issue, Alex, you mentioned the Limits to Growth Club of Rome and so on, and of course out of that era came a guy by the name of Murray Strong.

01:05:40.000 And Murray Strong said that the problem for the planet are the industrialized nations and it isn't our responsibility to get rid of them.

01:05:48.000 And I want the listeners to think about, how would you go about shutting down an industrialized nation?

01:05:53.000 If you think about the nation like an engine, you can squeeze the fuel line, it'll stop the engine.

01:06:01.000 But if you did that, there'd be immediate reaction.

01:06:04.000 And all you gotta do is look at the gas prices going up and the reaction to that.

01:06:08.000 But you can achieve the same thing by plugging the exhaust.

01:06:14.000 If you plug up the exhaust of a car, it'll stop.

01:06:17.000 And if you can show that the exhaust of the industrialized nations is killing the planet...

01:06:23.000 Then you effectively can shut that down.

01:06:26.000 And you can tax it, you can regulate it, you can say how big your house is, and they state it's a fraud.

01:06:33.000 They know it's a fraud.

01:06:35.000 Please continue, but I wanted to use one example here.

01:06:38.000 If you give people the scientific name of water, dihydrogen monoxide, 99% of people on the street, and I've done this, and I've seen it done on television, you walk up and say, did you hear about the dihydrogen monoxide problem?

01:06:53.000 Or did you hear about the spill?

01:06:55.000 Or just say, should we ban it?

01:06:56.000 They'll say, absolutely! 0.97

01:06:57.000 It's water, folks, and that's as asinine as saying that carbon dioxide is a toxic waste.

01:07:04.000 Am I correct in saying it is the main life gas because oxygen came later on this planet, correct?

01:07:11.000 Well, that's right.

01:07:12.000 Without the plants, you have no oxygen, and the plants need the CO2 to survive.

01:07:18.000 And of course, at 385 parts per million, which is the current level, that's the lowest level in the 6 billion year history of the Earth.

01:07:28.000 Exactly!

01:07:28.000 The Earth is starved for carbon dioxide, and there are studies on desertification.

01:07:33.000 We need more!

01:07:34.000 We should have factories making it! 0.98

01:07:36.000 Well, in fact, it is being used commercially.

01:07:41.000 In greenhouses, they're pumping in up to 1,000 and 1,200 parts per million, and achieving four times the yield.

01:07:48.000 And what this indicates is that plants which evolved over the last 300 million years When the average atmospheric level was between 1,000 and 1,200 parts per million, that that's the level that they function best at.

01:08:00.000 So at 385, they're essentially malnourished.

01:08:04.000 And of course, Al Gore and the gang want to reduce that level even more.

01:08:08.000 And at 250 parts per million, the plants start to die.

01:08:11.000 You've got no plants, you've got no oxygen, you've got no life on the planet.

01:08:14.000 I want to stop you.

01:08:15.000 Now, they can claim that we're all paid by the cabler elves to say this.

01:08:19.000 Folks, you don't need to believe us.

01:08:21.000 Oxygen, carbon dioxide, water and sunlight are the four ingredients that you have to have for life.

01:08:29.000 It has been, now I'm going for the mainline science, you're the expert professor, but I've read all the studies.

01:08:33.000 Fourteen times higher carbon dioxide.

01:08:36.000 Plants live longer, grow faster, healthier, then they put out more oxygen.

01:08:40.000 They've done studies showing that animals, mammals, insects, we want more oxygen.

01:08:45.000 I want more oxygen!

01:08:46.000 I don't want these control freaks taxing my air and claiming that life-giving gas is devil poison!

01:08:54.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

01:08:56.000 And of course, you know, you go to the football game and what are those players sitting on the sidelines getting extra oxygen so they can perform better?

01:09:03.000 By the way, one of the things that the greenhouse and also research, people like Sherwood Itso, all the different plants they've studied, They also use less water when the CO2 levels are higher.

01:09:16.000 Have you seen the studies about how, and now they're proving this with the core samples and things they've done, with the robots, the rovers, that Mars lost its atmosphere with the same thing that's happening here? 0.96

01:09:28.000 I guess these bastards want us to lose our atmosphere!

01:09:31.000 Well, it certainly appears that way, and I guess, you know, one of the things that underlies so much of this is that there's a very deep anti-humanism in the whole environmental movement. 0.99

01:09:42.000 You know, if we could just get the people off the planet, it would be a great place to live. 0.95

01:09:47.000 And you see this, little things trickle out every once in a while.

01:09:51.000 For example, the Greenpeace report on global warming.

01:09:53.000 They said the CO2 is added to the atmosphere naturally and unnaturally.

01:09:57.000 And you say, well, what do you mean by unnatural?

01:10:00.000 Well, of course, What they mean is humans.

01:10:02.000 They say, well, if what we're doing is unnatural, then that makes us unnatural.

01:10:07.000 And so you see this very deep-seated anti-humanism in all of this.

01:10:11.000 Are you kidding, sir? 0.98

01:10:12.000 I've been to the meetings where every professor there walks around saying everyone needs to die, and I have their graduate papers from their students saying all humans must be killed. 0.77

01:10:22.000 I mean, this is a vicious cult, and they all work and have access to bioweapons labs.

01:10:28.000 Well, and of course, that's at the very basic level, but at the intervening level, of course, the idea is to take control of the economy and take control of everything.

01:10:38.000 I mean, if you look at what Al Gore is doing, where he's going out and telling you CO2 is a pollutant, it's a problem, we've got to get rid of it, we've got to reduce it.

01:10:46.000 Oh, and by the way, one of the ways we can do it is carbon credits, which is absolute rubbish, doesn't reduce them at all.

01:10:51.000 He then turns around and sets up a company and makes money off of it.

01:10:55.000 No, I don't know how you look at that, but it appears that that might sound like fraud.

01:11:00.000 Well, exactly.

01:11:02.000 I'm waiting for him to say dihydrogen monoxide.

01:11:06.000 Yeah, there's two things about that, by the way, and it is a wonderful exercise.

01:11:11.000 It plays on two things that these people exploit.

01:11:14.000 One is people's fear.

01:11:17.000 We have natural fears of certain things, and they're exploiting that.

01:11:20.000 Oh, the sky is going to fall, the world's going to come to an end, and then the emotional words that get in there, oh, the children are going to die, there's going to be no future, the planet, the grandchildren, and so on.

01:11:31.000 And Michael Crichton wrote about that superbly, how they do that in his book, State of Fear.

01:11:36.000 But the other thing that they're exploiting is lack of knowledge.

01:11:40.000 So you can throw out that scientific definition of water, but because people don't know it, Then they automatically assume, well, because of the way you're doing it, the way you're phrasing the question, this must be something deadly.

01:11:53.000 And it's that, the lack of knowledge that these people are exploiting.

01:11:58.000 Hold on, Doc, Doc, Doc.

01:12:00.000 Hold on for a minute, because since you mentioned that, it's actually known as the dihydrogen monoxide hoax.

01:12:05.000 Again, that's water, ladies and gentlemen.

01:12:07.000 The dihydrogen monoxide hoax involves listing negative effects of water under unfamiliar scientific names.

01:12:13.000 Then asking individuals to help control the seemingly dangerous substance caused by most people known to the world as monoxide as part of the name of the poisonous gas.

01:12:22.000 The hoax is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific knowledge and the exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears that hydrogen monoxide Shortened to DHMO is a scientific name for water that, while technically correct, is almost never employed.

01:12:34.000 Now, this is a Wikipedia propaganda piece that I just noticed.

01:12:38.000 This wasn't here yesterday.

01:12:39.000 I just clicked on this from Wikipedia and suddenly they changed it, I guess to counter me, as I did a show about it yesterday.

01:12:46.000 But no, it's not...

01:12:49.000 Twisting it, you can go out and say, should we ban dihydrogen monoxide?

01:12:54.000 And most people will say yes, okay, without even listing bad effects.

01:12:58.000 So see, they're very upset that we're showing their fraud now.

01:13:01.000 Go ahead.

01:13:03.000 And of course, as I said, it is that exploitation of lack of knowledge.

01:13:07.000 But just to look at the CO2 thing for a second.

01:13:10.000 First of all, the idea is out there that it's the most important greenhouse gas.

01:13:14.000 It isn't.

01:13:14.000 Water vapor is by far the most important greenhouse gas.

01:13:17.000 CO2 is less than 4%.

01:13:18.000 But the basic assumption they make in their theory Is that, oh, if CO2 traps heat, so if CO2 in the atmosphere increases, and it will because humans are producing more, then the temperature will increase.

01:13:35.000 That's fundamental to their theory.

01:13:37.000 The problem is, the evidence shows exactly the opposite.

01:13:41.000 That the ice core record of 420,000 years shows that temperature changes before CO2.

01:13:47.000 CO2 does not drive temperature.

01:13:49.000 It follows what, 700 years after non-average?

01:13:52.000 There's about an 800 year lag, but that can be as low as an 80 year lag, and one of the reasons they stopped talking about global warming and started talking about climate change is because they've got this problem that since 2000 the global temperature's been declining.

01:14:07.000 That's because the sun has now started cooling.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, exactly, but the CO2 continues to go up, so they've got this great problem of evidence that completely contradicts what they're arguing.

01:14:19.000 So they simply shift the goalposts.

01:14:21.000 Absolutely.

01:14:22.000 Please continue.

01:14:24.000 Well, what I'm saying is that they've shifted the goalposts from global warming and now it's climate change.

01:14:31.000 Well, you know, you've only got to look at any brief period and you know that the climate changes dramatically all the time.

01:14:39.000 Well, why then are the public caught up in that?

01:14:42.000 The fundamental Western view of the world It's what is called the uniformitarian view.

01:14:48.000 That is, that change is very gradual over long periods of time.

01:14:52.000 It goes back to Darwin and to Charles Lyell, the geologist, and so on, and Darwin needed a much older world for his evolutionary theory to occur.

01:15:02.000 So he says, okay, well, the change is gradual over long periods of time.

01:15:06.000 That's built in now.

01:15:08.000 So if you assume in your education that change is gradual, and then suddenly somebody says, oh here's a sudden change, oh that's not natural, that must be something those humans are doing.

01:15:18.000 And this is the game that's being played.

01:15:20.000 And again, I'm not going to get into a debate about Darwin.

01:15:22.000 The point is, this is a guy 170 years ago coming up with this stuff, 150 years ago, and now everything he quotes said the world works this way, And they then build all reality around that.

01:15:35.000 It's like saying the Earth is still the center of the universe, because we now know that, actually, evolutionary changes are fast.

01:15:42.000 They're sudden.

01:15:43.000 Yep.

01:15:44.000 Exactly.

01:15:45.000 And one of the examples of that is, and I've looked at all the textbooks in North America and in Europe, most of them are still telling the students that the Earth's orbit around the Sun is a fixed, elliptical orbit.

01:15:58.000 In fact, it isn't fixed at all.

01:15:59.000 The orbit changes every single year.

01:16:02.000 And it goes from almost circular, as it is now, to extreme ellipse, as it was just 22,000 years ago.

01:16:09.000 And the change is caused by the gravitational pull of the planet Jupiter.

01:16:13.000 And so people say, well, that's new information.

01:16:16.000 No, it isn't.

01:16:17.000 We've known that information for 150 years, yet we're still telling our students that the orbit of the Earth is fixed and unchanging.

01:16:25.000 And we've got this throughout our system, that our view of the world is wrong.

01:16:30.000 And yet it's built right into our science.

01:16:34.000 Professor, something I just noticed here.

01:16:37.000 They admit that water is life-giving and oxygen is life-giving, but they play it down on Wikipedia about carbon dioxide and describe it as some type of devil weapon.

01:16:46.000 I bet soon they're going to say water's evil.

01:16:48.000 I mean, I'm not kidding.

01:16:49.000 I think the public will buy that water is a toxic devil weapon. 0.96

01:16:53.000 Well, they'll pick on anything to achieve their goals, and of course Wikipedia and the way that that is manipulated with people like William Connolly and these other people that go in there And put in their view of the science, and the minute you try to correct it, it's immediately corrected back. 0.91

01:17:09.000 But you know, you know, you know, you know that this is now the number one reference source, and it's absolute crap.

01:17:16.000 Yeah, exactly, but of course what they did was they made sure that if you put in something like, say, ocean currents, The first source that comes up on Google is the Wikipedia source.

01:17:16.000 Go ahead.

01:17:26.000 They've arranged that.

01:17:28.000 And when I talked to high school students, I said, how many of you use Wikipedia?

01:17:31.000 Well, all of the hands go up.

01:17:32.000 And I said, how many of you are aware that it can be changed by anybody?

01:17:38.000 That you can go in and edit it, but there are groups of people who monitor it and make sure that only their information, what they want out there... Stay there.

01:17:46.000 Stay there.

01:17:47.000 Timothy F. Ball, give us some of his websites, books, materials.

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01:20:57.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the head of GM comes the head of GM comes out and says, global warming is a complete scam. - Rex Tillerson won't go along with it at Exxon Mobil.

01:21:21.000 And the Rockefellers come out of their hole and say, we own the company.

01:21:25.000 You're gone.

01:21:27.000 Because they need that global tax.

01:21:29.000 Believe me, it has nothing to do with the Earth.

01:21:32.000 And all the science shows, the lowest level of carbon dioxide ever is what plants breathe.

01:21:36.000 Then they make oxygen as the byproduct for us.

01:21:39.000 This symbiosis is what lets us live.

01:21:43.000 We're healthier when there's more oxygen, but I think they're going to start swatting when you're found to have oxygen at your house.

01:21:49.000 And I'm not even joking.

01:21:50.000 It'll be like, we're looking for oxygen.

01:21:53.000 He had one kilo of it. 0.93

01:21:54.000 It was a devil. 0.99

01:21:57.000 I guess Professor Dr. Timothy F. Ball, Ph.D., I guess it's that the public has been so dumbed down by public education, but a lot of people aren't buying this now, so as you said, now it's just climate change, and they're going to order our lives and tell us how to live and what to do, because they're the guardians of the earth, and by darn it, humans are evil and we have to exterminate the majority of you, and this is for your own good. 0.96

01:22:23.000 Well, and of course one of the things people forget is that part of the limits to growth and the Club of Rome was the whole thing about overpopulation, and they made that a big issue.

01:22:33.000 And of course it was Al Gore that organized the conference on population in Cairo, Egypt a few years ago.

01:22:43.000 And of course the question you've got to ask is, well, who are you going to eliminate?

01:22:47.000 Which groups are you going to get rid of?

01:22:50.000 The fact is, the world isn't overpopulated at all.

01:22:52.000 You can put the world population into surprisingly small areas in very comfortable conditions.

01:22:58.000 You can also build upwards.

01:23:01.000 And besides, the world population is going to plane off at 8.5 billion, the UN admits, and then it's going to start dying, because once you industrialize, you have an average of about 1.6 children.

01:23:11.000 Well, exactly, and countries that are already experiencing that.

01:23:15.000 Italy is offering a financial reward for any couple that has a third child.

01:23:19.000 Russia, Germany, Japan.

01:23:23.000 And China, where they try to deal with the population problem, they've created the situation now where there's an absolute shortage of women. 1.00

01:23:31.000 Well, sir, they're trying to corner the market on water, grab it, double the price, tell you it's because it scares freshwater.

01:23:40.000 They're trying to do all of this right now.

01:23:42.000 How do we stop them?

01:23:43.000 Because they're having governors announce it, corporations announce it.

01:23:46.000 I mean, it's a full court press.

01:23:48.000 This is the new tyranny.

01:23:49.000 How do we stop it?

01:23:50.000 Well, I think that there's several things going on.

01:23:52.000 First, to understand that change follows a sawtooth pattern.

01:23:57.000 That is, that somebody starts raising questions about what's going on, and then very gradually, more and more people get onto it, and programs like yours that bring it to attention.

01:24:06.000 And then, all of a sudden, overnight, the change will occur.

01:24:09.000 I mean, if you look at smoking and so on.

01:24:13.000 For a long time, people then suddenly bang, and now it's completely unacceptable almost to smoke.

01:24:19.000 And so that's what you have to realize.

01:24:23.000 These things take time, and the work's getting out there. 0.98

01:24:26.000 The second thing is, of course, that Mother Nature's doing a great job by cooling the Earth down and making all of their predictions look absolutely foolish.

01:24:35.000 Why is it that every time they have a big global warming summit, they have record cold weather and it's blizzarded out?

01:24:43.000 Well, it's wonderful.

01:24:44.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:24:48.000 So you've got the fact that the earth is cooling.

01:24:52.000 The other thing that's happening is that already some of their policies that have been implemented, and only the more extreme ones... Are wreaking havoc!

01:25:02.000 Well, yeah, the ethanol thing, for example.

01:25:05.000 And by the way, that's being aggravated by cool weather.

01:25:10.000 The Southern Hemisphere has been cooling for 20 years.

01:25:12.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:25:13.000 In fact, we've had bad crops the last four years because of record cooling.

01:25:17.000 Stay there, stay there, doctor, professor, top expert on climate, water, ice.

01:25:23.000 I mean, his bio is 85 million miles long.

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01:27:16.000 Who owns and controls the three puppets? - Big government, fascist, communist, communist, big government, commie, fascist, and commie, commie, double, triple, super commie, fascist.

01:27:28.000 It doesn't matter either way, they're all owned by the same boys, they're going to give you the global tax, and a whole new core of tattletales running your life, inspecting your home, not letting you have family farms, taxes on beef, They admit neo-feudalism.

01:27:42.000 The globalists want to end the middle class.

01:27:45.000 Al Gore wants $300 million on $10 million.

01:27:48.000 Brown shirts are kind of like Mal's Little Red Book.

01:27:51.000 Youth Brigades.

01:27:52.000 I mean, they say this.

01:27:54.000 They're already in Austin popping tires of SUVs.

01:27:56.000 I pulled up to Zilker Park with my kids last week, took them on the train when I took off Thursday.

01:28:01.000 And I noticed that there were a couple of SUVs that had their tires popped, so I was driving a smaller SUV.

01:28:06.000 It might have been seen as holy because it was Japanese, but I went and parked it down a little bit so they wouldn't pop my tires.

01:28:13.000 I saw the ne'er-do-wells walking around engaging in their religious ceremony. 1.00

01:28:17.000 They'd burn down things, burn down ski resorts, you name it, but they don't care.

01:28:21.000 about genetic engineering, open-air species testing, things that are causing problems.

01:28:25.000 No, it's all about harassing people.

01:28:27.000 They can't wait.

01:28:29.000 And the new Green Brigades are already being released.

01:28:31.000 Professor, you want to talk about that?

01:28:33.000 And by the way, I've written about articles in Canada Free Press that your listeners can look at.

01:28:41.000 But the whole environmental movement, we needed that.

01:28:47.000 It was, we needed change, we needed to look at things differently.

01:28:51.000 But what happens with these things, Alex, is that, um, the special interest groups and extremists grab these things, and they kill them for their own pers, yeah, for their own personal ends.

01:29:02.000 When you ask me about how we can slow this down, the role of the extremists, which I've struggled with all of my career, is to say, what's the purpose of that?

01:29:11.000 It's sort of like, if we got rid of the mosquitoes, would the world come to an end?

01:29:15.000 And what I've realized is the role of the extremists is to define the limits for the rest of us.

01:29:21.000 If you think about feminism, for example, yeah, it was needed. 1.00

01:29:24.000 There's still some changes needed.

01:29:26.000 But the majority of women were saying, well, how far do we go with this? 1.00

01:29:29.000 And then some women did silly things, and the majority said, no, no, that's going too far. 1.00

01:29:33.000 Now we're losing more than we're gaining. 0.96

01:29:35.000 But that's precisely what's happened with this environmental thing.

01:29:39.000 That, yeah, we need to care about the planet, we need to understand, and we need to live in harmony with nature and everything else, but now these people are just taking it beyond, and they're using it for their own personal and political gains.

01:29:52.000 And, of course, that will also feed back on them, as we were talking before the break about Uh, about the, uh, rising food prices and the damage that's being done.

01:30:03.000 And by the way, there's another aspect to this.

01:30:06.000 Paul Dreesen's written a book called Eco-Imperialism, and this is the imposition of these ecological values of these extremists on the developing country.

01:30:16.000 Yeah, I mean, Doc, this is their excuse to run our lives and have corporate communism, where they corporatize our wealth.

01:30:22.000 I had Nobel Prize winner Joseph Tickles on last week, and he said, yeah, the neo-fascists corporatize everything at the top, and they give us socialism, but only as a conduit to suck our goods and our resources and our labor out of us.

01:30:34.000 And they use these front groups.

01:30:37.000 I mean, look, that's all that's happening in Anwar. 0.75

01:30:40.000 Atlantic Richfield executives, I've had them on.

01:30:42.000 They founded more oil than Saudi Arabia.

01:30:44.000 We're not allowed to have it because there's too much oil.

01:30:47.000 It's meant to create artificial scarcity.

01:30:48.000 The cartel's doing it with the oil companies. 0.76

01:30:51.000 They're not letting us have the oil.

01:30:53.000 I mean, does anybody think anybody cares about a few million hippies in sandals?

01:30:57.000 They're not stopping us having that oil.

01:30:59.000 The oil companies have got too much oil, and they've created artificial scarcity. 1.00

01:31:04.000 See, they want you to believe it's the idiot environmentalist. 1.00

01:31:07.000 Well, exactly. 1.00

01:31:07.000 Go ahead. 1.00

01:31:09.000 That's the interesting thing about it.

01:31:10.000 The paradox that it's to the benefit of the oil companies and the extreme environmentalists to have a shortage.

01:31:17.000 It suits both their ends, for different reasons, and I couldn't agree with you more.

01:31:22.000 Just to give you another example of how they exploit... Well, listen, Doc, I've been interrupting you a lot.

01:31:27.000 It's just so interesting.

01:31:28.000 I'm going to try to stick a rubber ball in my mouth after this quick break, and then you've got the floor for the 20 minutes we've got left.

01:31:36.000 You can just talk about whatever you want.

01:31:37.000 But I want to shatter paradigms.

01:31:39.000 Because I know ExxonMobil and others have been forced for decades to actually fund the environmental... They call them wackos.

01:31:45.000 They're not wackos.

01:31:46.000 They're getting power, they're getting money, now they're getting guns, and they're coming for us.

01:31:53.000 It is a big idea.

01:31:54.000 A new world order.

01:31:57.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

01:32:01.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

01:32:05.000 Could their objective be world domination?

01:32:07.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

01:32:11.000 Now as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.97

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01:33:12.000 History and the Bible prove to them that these two systems Church and state must be kept separate. 0.93

01:33:16.000 It must be our love of God and of country that prompts or constrains us.

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01:33:23.000 From history we saw that when church and state united, known as Papal Rome, religious intolerance resulted.

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01:34:53.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:35:00.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:35:05.000 Well, he's an amazing individual.

01:35:06.000 Timothy F. Ball writes for major publications, books, you name it.

01:35:11.000 Mr. Ball, tell us about some of your writing, some of your books, some of your info, where we can find out more about that.

01:35:16.000 Well, we've got a website, the Natural Resources Stewardship Project, which is focusing on climate change right now, but we need to look at all the resources and get a good handle on those.

01:35:27.000 And that's at nrsp.com.

01:35:30.000 I also help set up and advise the Friends of Science group at friendsofscience.org.

01:35:36.000 And I'm still publishing, even though I'm technically retired.

01:35:40.000 I write articles on a regular basis for Canada Free Press.

01:35:44.000 I was doing an article for 17 years for farmers in a magazine called Country Guide, and then I guess I got politically incorrect and they let me go, but the farmers need the help and the information to understand what's going on.

01:35:55.000 Well, the New World Order is smart because they will make it about money.

01:36:00.000 I mean, when I hear ads like, "Come by the hardware store." We're green.

01:36:04.000 It's the green living.

01:36:06.000 You've got to do it.

01:36:07.000 I mean, it's a total takeover of society.

01:36:10.000 It's a new religion where they boss you around and Whole Foods here in Austin says, we don't have plastic bags anymore. 1.00

01:36:16.000 And, you know, I'm just tired of it.

01:36:18.000 Go ahead.

01:36:19.000 Well, of course, what they've done is they take the moral high ground.

01:36:22.000 And so when people like me stand up and try to argue, you know, they can look down on you and say, well, you're not green.

01:36:28.000 You don't care.

01:36:30.000 And anybody that dares to question, and I think that's one of the frightening things, is vast segments of the society that are bullied into silence by these people.

01:36:39.000 And you see, I see with the politicians, I mean, behind the fence they'll say to you, yeah, we agree with you, we know what the science is saying and so on, but we daren't show anything to suggest that we're not totally environmental.

01:36:51.000 They also lie!

01:36:55.000 They say, no scientist on Earth Yeah.

01:36:58.000 Believes it's not real.

01:36:59.000 We have 2,000.

01:37:00.000 And then it just turns out they just put people's names on it.

01:37:04.000 Yeah, well, of course, that's the numbers game, and it is a consensus thing, and consensus is not a scientific fact.

01:37:12.000 But consensus works in politics.

01:37:14.000 And the number, by the way, that they use is the 2,500 people of the IPCC, this Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

01:37:22.000 And the guy that was responsible for setting that up was the guy I mentioned earlier, Maurice Strong.

01:37:27.000 And he's there with George Soros and all of those people, and he set up the United Nations Environmental Program, in which they defined that if they're going to study climate, they can only look at human effects on climate.

01:37:41.000 Ignore what natural climate is, and only look at the human portion.

01:37:44.000 Well, how can you possibly know whether humans are having an effect if you don't know how the climate changes naturally?

01:37:49.000 But that's their mandate.

01:37:51.000 And of course, with the authority of the UN, And Strong is on record as saying he chose the UN because he could appoint the people he wanted, he could get all the money he wanted, he had no control, he didn't have to run for election or anything else.

01:38:07.000 And the IPCC is the 2,500.

01:38:08.000 CCC is the 2500.

01:38:10.000 But of the 2500, Alex, 1900 of them are not looking at climate change in science.

01:38:18.000 They're looking at, okay, let's accept that humans are causing it, and what are the impacts going to be?

01:38:22.000 Exactly.

01:38:23.000 The meeting was about what they were going to do about man-made global warming.

01:38:27.000 It wasn't a scientific treatise and manifesto and declaration of fact.

01:38:32.000 And then thousands of them who have been associated with this and other programs have come public and said, I didn't agree to all this.

01:38:39.000 I just was invited and paid and flown there, and they put my name on this.

01:38:45.000 Exactly, and a lot of them have quit over it, but that's where the consensus number comes from.

01:38:50.000 And by the way, of the 2,500, less than 300 were involved in the actual science.

01:38:57.000 And to show you how political it is, the mandate or the rules say that you publish the summary first.

01:39:05.000 You put that out to the public.

01:39:06.000 The summary is the political statement.

01:39:10.000 The summary then goes back to the scientists and says, okay, make sure your science report agrees with what we put out as the summary.

01:39:17.000 So it's like an executive writing a summary and saying to the employees, write a report that agrees with my summary.

01:39:23.000 That's how they've written the rules.

01:39:25.000 Or that's like if I tell my accountant, hey, this is how many taxes I owe, make sure all the accounting you do matches that.

01:39:33.000 Exactly.

01:39:34.000 And this is what they've done, and it's through that UN and the IPCC, and of course then the specific focus on CO2, which we already talked about, to bring these things down.

01:39:46.000 And within those reports, by the way, they leave out, and they're computer models, and of course these are the same models that can't tell you what the weather's going to be like 10 days from now, and yet they're quite certain of what's going to happen 50 and 100 years from now.

01:40:02.000 It's all based on computer models, but in those computer models they leave out huge parts of what we know.

01:40:09.000 That's right.

01:40:09.000 These aren't even the classic models.

01:40:11.000 These are, it's been admitted, fixed models where they build it for the result they want.

01:40:16.000 Yep.

01:40:17.000 And of course, one of them, as we've already mentioned, they build in the fact that if the CO2 increases, the temperature will go up.

01:40:23.000 Yet all of the natural evidence shows us that it's exactly the other way around.

01:40:27.000 That the temperature increases before the CO2.

01:40:31.000 So every time you look at something, you can see how they've manipulated to achieve the result that they want. 0.94

01:40:38.000 So it's literally garbage in, garbage out.

01:40:41.000 And I mentioned already the one about the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. 0.77

01:40:45.000 None of that, that's called the Milankovitch effect.

01:40:49.000 None of that is included in their climate models.

01:40:52.000 Yet every single year the orbit's different and that changes the climate.

01:40:55.000 And Alex, all you've got to think about is just 22,000 years ago, which is something even humans can get their mind around, 22,000 years ago, all of Canada and a portion of the U.S.

01:41:05.000 was covered with an ice sheet larger than the current Antarctic ice sheet.

01:41:09.000 Oh, I know, there's giant glacial rocks right here in Texas.

01:41:13.000 Right, exactly.

01:41:14.000 Yeah, and that ice sheet, by the way, melted in about 5,000 years.

01:41:18.000 Tell me where the heat came from to melt that ice?

01:41:20.000 The Hyborian maxim came from the sun.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:41:24.000 But, of course, they ignore the sun.

01:41:26.000 They say, oh no, they look in the textbooks.

01:41:28.000 It tells you it's a solar constant.

01:41:30.000 It's anything but constant.

01:41:32.000 I know, they just lie!

01:41:33.000 It's incredible!

01:41:34.000 They say the sun never changes.

01:41:36.000 When that's the oldest thing studied, the Egyptians put on their walls that the sun changed.

01:41:42.000 I mean, everybody knows the sun heats up and cools down and expands and contracts and throws off different Coriolis super-ejections.

01:41:42.000 Yep.

01:41:52.000 Yep, exactly.

01:41:53.000 And, of course, one of the things that we know about is that the global temperature varies with the number of sunspots.

01:42:00.000 Basically, when there's more sunspots, the Earth is warmer.

01:42:03.000 When there's less, the Earth is cooler.

01:42:05.000 And by the way, we've had no sunspots for over a year now, which is why we've got cold temperatures right now.

01:42:10.000 Which for those who don't know, those are huge explosions, those are huge ejections coming off of it that are so powerful that when our astronauts are in space and one goes off, they have to come back down out of orbit or they have to get behind the water tanks.

01:42:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:27.000 They've got to be protected from it.

01:42:28.000 Well, we've got the Earth's magnetic field that's protecting us.

01:42:32.000 And of course we can... But I've had the other scientists on about how even the particles from the sun, you know, not just the radiation, the particles come in, and then those form clouds, and it's just... Exactly.

01:42:43.000 Yeah, that's the point.

01:42:44.000 That's the cosmic theory of Sven Mark.

01:42:47.000 But you see, the reason they said, okay, yeah, there's a high correlation between sunspots and global temperature, but what's the mechanism?

01:42:53.000 Well, we don't know the mechanism, so we're going to ignore it.

01:42:56.000 And so they left that out of their computer models.

01:42:58.000 But here's another big one, Doctor.

01:43:00.000 I want to get your take on this.

01:43:01.000 I'm sorry we're moving so fast, but you're just amazing.

01:43:03.000 I've got to get you up for two hours in the near future so we can really break this down.

01:43:07.000 For the last 20 years, all the planets, their moons, have been melting, liquid moons, moons that were ice or liquid.

01:43:16.000 They admit the whole solar system was heating.

01:43:18.000 And I brought that up to David Rothschild, who ran the New York Live Earth thing a few months ago last year.

01:43:24.000 And he said, well, that's because Jupiter and Saturn are closer to the Sun.

01:43:28.000 And I said, no, they're not.

01:43:29.000 And he said, no, they are closer to the Sun. 0.99

01:43:31.000 And either is he that dumb, the guy's worth billions, or does he think my audience is so dumb he can just bluff? 0.98

01:43:38.000 Well, exactly, and that goes back to the thing that I said to you about. 0.99

01:43:42.000 They work on people's lack of knowledge.

01:43:45.000 But every once in a while, they get caught in these lies.

01:43:48.000 And that's an example.

01:43:49.000 Well, for those that don't know, Professor, is Jupiter closer to the Sun than the Earth?

01:43:55.000 No.

01:43:56.000 But see, Rothschild just says you're wrong.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, well, what are we, the fourth planet out from the Sun?

01:44:03.000 There's only three inside of us, isn't there?

01:44:08.000 Jupiter's much further out.

01:44:09.000 Yeah, it's third rock.

01:44:10.000 It's Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and then you get the gas giants.

01:44:15.000 There you go.

01:44:16.000 Exactly.

01:44:17.000 And of course the fact that the Mars polar ice cap is melting when there's no greenhouse gases there, it's clearly related to... Oh, by the way, I'm not attacking Robert Kennedy Jr., but we brought up to him in a video interview, he said, well, why are you saying global warming?

01:44:17.000 Exactly.

01:44:35.000 We've got to have global tax.

01:44:37.000 You know, Mars' ice caps are melting at a couple of miles a year at just incredible pace.

01:44:42.000 And he said, there's no ice cap on Mars.

01:44:45.000 And just laughed at us.

01:44:46.000 I mean, it's got huge ice caps.

01:44:48.000 Yeah, well, exactly.

01:44:50.000 But you see, this is the game, and I'll give you another example of how they do it.

01:44:53.000 You keep hearing about the Arctic ice and, of course, the polar bears and all of that.

01:44:57.000 And by the way, the polar bear numbers are increasing dramatically, and I'll come to that in a minute.

01:45:00.000 They show film of it on an iceberg and say, look, they're going to die.

01:45:04.000 They can't swim when they swim 200 miles and kill belugas. 1.00

01:45:08.000 Well, exactly, and I flew Search and Rescue in the Arctic, and I've seen polar bears up to 180 miles offshore.

01:45:14.000 And one of the reasons they're good swimmers is because they've got two furs. 0.55

01:45:18.000 They've got the short fur close to their body that keeps the heat in so efficiently, by the way, that they don't even show up on infrared cameras.

01:45:25.000 But also, the long fur is hollow, and the sunlight hits that and goes down into the body to heat the body, but because it's hollow, that long fur allows them to float very easily.

01:45:37.000 Incredible creatures.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:45:40.000 They're adapted to the environment.

01:45:42.000 But the point about the Arctic ice is, you see, most of the people have no idea what the Arctic Ocean looks like or how big it is.

01:45:50.000 And so they can play on that.

01:45:51.000 For most people, the Arctic Ocean is just a line across the top of the map on the school wall.

01:45:57.000 It's always breaking.

01:45:58.000 It's always being replenished by rain and then breaking off.

01:46:01.000 Yeah, but you know how much?

01:46:03.000 In the Arctic, about 16 million square kilometers of ice forms every year, every winter.

01:46:11.000 That's the amount that's up there right now.

01:46:14.000 And every summer, 10 million square kilometers of that melts.

01:46:18.000 Now that's an area equal to the U.S.

01:46:22.000 Melts every single summer. 0.93

01:46:24.000 In fact, 10 million square kilometers of ice melts in about 150 days.

01:46:29.000 And yet they tell you, oh no, it's more melting this year than last year.

01:46:33.000 And the way they play the game is they say, oh, more melted this year than last year.

01:46:38.000 An area the size of Texas.

01:46:40.000 Well, of course, they know.

01:46:41.000 Everybody thinks, oh, Texas, that's big.

01:46:43.000 But actually... Stay there.

01:46:44.000 Let's talk about this fraud.

01:46:45.000 Let's talk about the fraud in the final segment.

01:46:48.000 Absolute scam.

01:46:53.000 Let me talk to him.

01:46:53.000 It is a big idea.

01:46:55.000 One second.

01:46:58.000 Go ahead.

01:47:03.000 Oh, no, it's more melting this year than last year.

01:47:06.000 And the way they played the game is they said, oh, well, more melted this year than last year.

01:47:10.000 An area the size of Texas.

01:47:12.000 Well, of course, they know everybody thinks, oh, Texas, that's big.

01:47:16.000 But actually... Stay there.

01:47:17.000 Let's talk about this fraud.

01:47:18.000 Let's talk about the fraud in the final segment.

01:47:20.000 Absolute scam.

01:47:24.000 Before an audience and say, you know, let me tell you some animals that are doing very well.

01:47:28.000 Rats, coyotes, snakes, pigeons.

01:47:32.000 And then I'll stop and I say, have I mentioned any you like yet?

01:47:35.000 Right?

01:47:36.000 And of course what you see is that they, again, they play on the emotional thing all the time.

01:47:43.000 Well, exactly, but I mean, in textbooks, they admit that they can swim 200 miles, they hunt on ice packs, going back to the Titanic in an iceberg, rain increases the size of the Arctic masses, then it breaks off, as you said, the size of the U.S., and then on the news they say polar bears can't swim, this family's trapped, they're gonna die. 0.95

01:48:03.000 The news knows they're lying, and the public's so dumb, they don't know that that's a complete fraud.

01:48:09.000 Well, then that's what they're playing on, and as I said, to be at that fear... I mean, the one thing these people are very clever about is knowing how to exploit people. 0.94

01:48:18.000 Well, I'll tell you what, we're going to come back in just a few minutes, and I'm sorry I'm jumping in so much, it's just so exciting.

01:48:22.000 No, no, no, that's fine.

01:48:23.000 I want to set you up... I'm talking too much.

01:48:25.000 No, no, no, it's great.

01:48:27.000 I want to set you up for a full two hours to really lay out, with all your research, sir, what's going on, and then hopefully how to stop it.

01:48:34.000 So I'm going to have my producer call you today and try to set you up in the next month for two hours, and we're going to be back live in two minutes, and we'll go straight to you, okay?

01:48:43.000 Okay, thank you.

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01:51:47.000 Finishing up with our guest, who I want to have back up for two hours in the near future, Timothy F. Ball, doctor, professor, PhD, expert on water, you name it, what's really happening with the hydrosphere, the atmospheres, the environment.

01:52:00.000 Continuing, sir, in closing with...

01:52:03.000 Yeah, just use one of their big lies.

01:52:04.000 We'll have you back for their thousands of lies about how they point at glaciers and go, look, it's collapsing!

01:52:09.000 Oh, it's dying!

01:52:11.000 The water!

01:52:11.000 There's cliffs falling!

01:52:14.000 Well, that's always happened, but the public can't find the U.S.

01:52:17.000 on a map.

01:52:18.000 I'm not being mean, it's just true.

01:52:19.000 They don't know who the Vice President is, so they believe the Earth is over.

01:52:23.000 Polar bears are drowning.

01:52:24.000 They can't swim.

01:52:25.000 We're all dead.

01:52:26.000 You've got the floor in the last four minutes.

01:52:29.000 Yeah, and of course, the glacier issue, it speaks to the one that Al Gore knows is critical.

01:52:35.000 Because if you say to people, well, what's wrong with global warming?

01:52:39.000 All you hear about is that it's negative, it's bad, but for a great many things, it's a positive thing.

01:52:45.000 In fact, when the world is warmer, generally the flora and the fauna are better off.

01:52:50.000 And so you really push them on it, and then they'll say, oh, well, the sea level's going to rise.

01:52:55.000 And that's why so much of Gore's movie is with that computer-generated, oh, here's the sea level flooding New York and Florida and so on, because he knows that's a huge concern to people.

01:53:07.000 But it really is absolute nonsense.

01:53:12.000 I mean, first of all, for Antarctica, you've got three types of ice down there.

01:53:16.000 They never distinguish between them when they put out the stories.

01:53:19.000 You've got the actual ice cap itself, which is actually increasing in size, not decreasing.

01:53:25.000 The South Pole has been cooling since they've been keeping temperatures there, not warming.

01:53:29.000 And then you've got around the edge, you've got what they call shelf ice.

01:53:32.000 That is, as the big glacier pushes out into the ocean, these flat tabular ice sheets form.

01:53:38.000 And of course they are pushed up and down by the tides and the waves and so on.

01:53:43.000 And eventually they break off and then you hear, oh here's another big iceberg breaking off and this is global warming.

01:53:50.000 I've got one record from a sailing ship back in the 1840s of an ice island 100 miles long and 40 miles wide.

01:53:57.000 And the ship sailed around it to measure it.

01:53:59.000 And that was long before there was any human global warming.

01:54:03.000 And then you've got the sea ice forming around Antarctica, which is different again.

01:54:07.000 And it goes from about 2 million square kilometers in the summer out to about 15 million square kilometers in the wintertime.

01:54:16.000 So it's a constant change.

01:54:19.000 And that's the key issue that they play on.

01:54:22.000 And they're doing it with the glaciers.

01:54:23.000 We're only monitoring about 10% of the world's alpine glaciers.

01:54:27.000 50% of them are advancing, 50% are retreating.

01:54:31.000 Because glaciers are as much about the amount of snowfall that's occurring as they are about the temperature.

01:54:37.000 But they pick on the ones that are retreating and say, oh, here's the proof of it, and it's definitely due to warming.

01:54:43.000 Gore did it with Kilimanjaro.

01:54:44.000 And of course, there's been no global warming around there, as all the temperature records show.

01:54:51.000 Well, I mean, to make it simple, it rains, and then it piles up, and then the glaciers push out towards the water, they pile up and then slough off, and both of the Arctics, the Antarctic and the Arctic, North and South, are actually getting bigger right now, just from the surveys that have been done, and that's an admitted fact, but it doesn't matter.

01:55:14.000 They'll just run around fear-mongering.

01:55:16.000 I mean, take Greenland, with all those aircraft that were left in World War II, and now they're 50, 60, 100 feet, depending on the area, under ice.

01:55:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:26.000 And of course, the sea level thing, you see, if you melt... What happened with that originally, Alex, was that the scientists said, OK, if we melt the Greenland and Antarctica, how much water is created?

01:55:36.000 And they simply added that to the current sea level.

01:55:39.000 But the problem with that is that most of that ice is already below sea level.

01:55:45.000 So it wouldn't add to the sea level at all.

01:55:47.000 It would simply occupy the space that's occupied by the ice.

01:55:51.000 So the only part that would add to sea level is the part that's above current sea level.

01:55:56.000 But then there's other adjustments go on because the land rises and falls.

01:56:00.000 So you can stand, for example, you can stand on the Gulf Coast of Mexico down there in Texas.

01:56:05.000 The sea level seems to be changing, but is it because the sea level's going up and down or because the land's going up and down?

01:56:11.000 In the case of the Gulf of Mexico, the land is sinking.

01:56:14.000 So it appears that the water's coming in.

01:56:16.000 Oh, the sea level's rising due to global warming.

01:56:18.000 No, it isn't, because the land's going down.

01:56:21.000 Everywhere you look, you see this kind of misinformation.

01:56:24.000 Sir, where can we read more of your work again?

01:56:26.000 Well, on NRSP.com and also the articles I do in Canada Free Press.

01:56:32.000 Well, I look forward to speaking to you again, Mr. Ball, Professor Ball, in the near future.

01:56:36.000 God bless your fine research.

01:56:38.000 Well, thank you.

01:56:39.000 Thanks for the opportunity, and I'm John Armstrong.

01:56:41.000 Thank you, sir.

01:56:42.000 Thank you.

01:56:43.000 We're on the march.

01:56:44.000 The Empire.

01:56:45.000 You want to say goodbye to him?

01:56:46.000 Yeah, let me say bye.

01:56:48.000 Go ahead.

01:56:48.000 Hey, Professor, we'll talk to you soon.

01:56:50.000 I'm going to have my producer call you, and thank you for all the time.

01:56:53.000 I appreciate that.

01:56:54.000 Yeah, lots more we can talk about, and answer the questions, and educate the people so they can't be taken advantage of.

01:57:00.000 Absolutely.

01:57:00.000 It's like the guy said, if you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

01:57:05.000 I know.

01:57:05.000 Well, the people perish for lack of knowledge.

01:57:07.000 Thank you, sir.

01:57:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:10.000 Good.

01:57:10.000 Thanks very kindly.

01:57:11.000 Thank you, sir.

01:57:12.000 Okay, thank you, Professor.

01:57:14.000 Go ahead and you got Shostakovich on?

01:57:15.000 Yep, I sure do.

01:57:16.000 I just have to transfer him over.

01:57:17.000 Alright, just let him know, in case Trey didn't tell him, I want to get into Iran.

01:57:21.000 Here we go.

01:57:21.000 Okay, what about this clip?

01:57:22.000 Did you want to save it for later?

01:57:23.000 How long is it?

01:57:26.000 Four minutes.

01:57:27.000 We'll play it in the last segment.

01:57:28.000 Stand by.

01:57:33.000 Alright sir, let's sit tight.

01:57:34.000 I'll go and transfer you over and you'll be live in just a couple minutes.

01:57:42.000 Thank you sir.

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01:59:52.000 I've got to get Professor Michael Tosadowski on for an hour in the near future.

01:59:59.000 I've got to get Professor Michael Chosodosky on for an hour in the near future.

02:00:10.000 We've only got him for about 15 minutes, 20 minutes right now.

02:00:13.000 Because in the last five minutes, I'm going to play some excerpts of interviews with Deborah Jean Palfrey, the D.C.

02:00:19.000 madam who said she'd never commit suicide, even if she was convicted.

02:00:23.000 She's now been murdered.

02:00:24.000 Clearly, reportedly, she was about to release the fact that she had sent girls to some high-ranking White House folks. 0.89

02:00:31.000 She never said who on air, never told me privately.

02:00:33.000 That's the kind of thing I wouldn't want to know, that of being on air, because you get killed.

02:00:37.000 No hit teams at my house, please.

02:00:39.000 This is just horrible what happened.

02:00:40.000 We'll play some of that in the last five minutes.

02:00:42.000 But Professor Cha Sadowsky, As a Canadian economist, he heads up global research.

02:00:48.000 He is a professor of economics at the University of Ottawa.

02:00:51.000 Chodosky has taught, is a visiting professor at academic institutions in Western Europe, Latin America, and Southeast Asia.

02:00:58.000 He has acted as an economic advisor to governments in developed countries, has worked as the consultant for international organizations, including the UN Development Fund, the African Development Bank, the United Nations African Institute of Economic Development, The United Nations Population Fund.

02:01:11.000 I mean, it goes on and on for ten years, but very well known.

02:01:14.000 We'll tell you about some of his books and materials, like America's War on Terrorism.

02:01:19.000 While we've got you today, sir, I want to just try to get boiled-down answers.

02:01:23.000 Pick your brain.

02:01:24.000 We appreciate you coming on.

02:01:25.000 But first off, are they going into Iran?

02:01:29.000 Ray McGovern, CIA analyst, is saying he thinks so.

02:01:32.000 They're saber-rattling.

02:01:33.000 Or is that off the table, like Jimmy Carter says?

02:01:35.000 And then secondarily, Where do you think the economy's going with the international order?

02:01:40.000 That's B. And then C. Of the three presidential candidates, I know it's all theater, but there's different fissures and different camps in the New World Order.

02:01:52.000 Who do you think's behind who?

02:01:53.000 I know that's a lot in 20 minutes, but you've got the field, sir.

02:01:57.000 Well, Alex, it's just great to be on your program.

02:02:02.000 These are, of course, far-reaching questions.

02:02:05.000 I'll try to address the crucial question, will the war with Iran occur?

02:02:13.000 I've been looking at this issue for the last, oh, I would say more than five years, certainly.

02:02:20.000 Those war preparations started up in 2003 with Tehran, which was called Tehran Near Term.

02:02:28.000 Those were war scenarios right after the invasion of Iraq.

02:02:33.000 And there's been a military build-up from that period onwards.

02:02:39.000 And it's only, I would say, in the last year that the mainstream press has actually addressed the issue of these war preparations.

02:02:48.000 Now, I think one has to analyze this very carefully.

02:02:53.000 First of all, war preparations Directed against the country do not signify necessarily that the war will occur.

02:03:02.000 There are a number of factors.

02:03:05.000 The ability of the country to defend itself against foreign aggression, in this case the United States, NATO and Israel.

02:03:13.000 We know that's the alliance.

02:03:15.000 Its military capabilities to defend itself.

02:03:19.000 Uh, in other words, it's, uh, air defense system.

02:03:22.000 It's, uh, capabilities to retaliate.

02:03:24.000 That means its missile ballistic system, which Iran has.

02:03:30.000 And, in fact, even recent military exercises have demonstrated that these capabilities are significant.

02:03:37.000 Thirdly, it's a country of 60 million people with compulsory conscription, which means that overnight it can mobilize several million land forces, soldiers, I'm not suggesting that they are as advanced or as sophisticated as the U.S.

02:04:00.000 military, but bear in mind the geography.

02:04:05.000 Basra is right on the Iranian border.

02:04:08.000 And so the moment, and that's, again, the media... The Shiites are going to go completely wild all over Iraq. 0.99

02:04:15.000 Yes, absolutely, that's exactly what will happen.

02:04:18.000 They'll cross the border, and they'll ransack all the military installations, even if they're not, and of course, the US military in Iraq doesn't control the terrain, it doesn't control the country, so imagine what would happen if you have just a couple of hundred thousand Iranian troops cross the border into Iraq, 0.90

02:04:44.000 That would be absolute chaos, it would mean immediate escalation, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff know that.

02:04:54.000 They know that the US military cannot handle it.

02:04:59.000 You have, of course, Admiral Fallon was fired for having more or less said that, but if you look at the statements of Of the new Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, he says pretty much the same thing.

02:05:16.000 And what's very significant is that when Admiral Michael Mullen was appointed as Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff back in October of last year, the first thing he said, he said it outright.

02:05:33.000 And he didn't say it in any different way to Fallon.

02:05:39.000 He said the risks could be very, very high.

02:05:42.000 We're in a conflict.

02:05:44.000 And we have to be incredibly thoughtful about the potential of getting into a conflict with a third country in that part of the world. 0.86

02:05:53.000 Those were his words.

02:05:55.000 And they were published in the Israeli press.

02:05:57.000 And I presume that they were also quoted in the U.S.

02:06:00.000 press.

02:06:02.000 So that this consensus within the U.S.

02:06:06.000 Armed Forces for an attack on Iran, hello, I don't believe it's as straightforward as what some people suggest.

02:06:16.000 And the fact that Admiral Fallon has been dumped as commander of Central Command, which of course is a very important key position, that doesn't necessarily change the situation on the ground in Iraq.

02:06:32.000 Now let me just add a little question here.

02:06:34.000 We have Zbigniew Brzezinski coming out last year telling Congress to look for a false flag attack staged by the military, by our government.

02:06:42.000 Then we have Gary Hart writing a letter to Tehran saying our government will stage attacks, you better watch it.

02:06:46.000 A few days ago he told We Are Change New York that indeed the government may stage something.

02:06:51.000 Now he's an insider.

02:06:52.000 He helped write Homeland Security, clearly involved in 9-11.

02:06:55.000 Why are we now seeing this split, or is this a real split?

02:06:59.000 Well, I think it's certainly a split within the establishment.

02:07:03.000 I mean, Brzezinski doesn't necessarily represent different power lobbies than the neocons.

02:07:11.000 I think he's certainly a person who has a little bit more sense, and he believes in diplomacy, and I mean, under the circumstances, I think Brzezinski is certainly a positive What he says is positive.

02:07:30.000 I don't doubt that Brzezinski still believes in U.S.

02:07:34.000 dominance at the global level, as his publication suggests.

02:07:38.000 So, bottom line, what do you think is going to happen?

02:07:39.000 You're saying there's an internal fight.

02:07:41.000 Do you think they'll stage some provocation?

02:07:44.000 The problem is that you have people who are not always sane in their minds.

02:07:51.000 And you have a command structure within the Armed Forces, so that ultimately, even, it's not really the military that calls the shots, it's the civilians, okay?

02:08:03.000 So that the orders will come from Dick Cheney, most probably, and his advisors.

02:08:09.000 President Bush will sign whatever they stick in front of him, and you could very well have a situation which could get completely out of hand.

02:08:18.000 Why does Israel want this, knowing that even if the U.S. 0.76

02:08:22.000 has said, if Iran defends itself in any way, that will be seen as the greatest crime in galactic history, and that they'll have to be nuked?

02:08:29.000 And so I guess Israel wants fallout, and they just love it. 0.99

02:08:34.000 Well, Israel has been involved in advanced war preparation since 2004.

02:08:45.000 Stockpiling tactical nuclear weapons, their own nuclear weapons, bunker busters.

02:08:51.000 Are the people running our society just bored and they just want to see mushroom clouds?

02:08:56.000 I mean, I guess it's like Hitler just wanted to have a war. 0.60

02:08:59.000 Has it just come down to that, that these are guys that think it's tough to start wars?

02:09:04.000 Well, I mean, the issue with nuclear weapons is that the whole nuclear doctrine has changed dramatically since 2002, with the Nuclear Posture Review, which states essentially that nuclear weapons are harmless to the surrounding civilian population.

02:09:22.000 That goes into all the handbooks of the military, and now they've been reclassified and approved by the U.S.

02:09:30.000 Senate for use in a conventional war theater.

02:09:33.000 And now we learn that in 1959, the Joint Chiefs wanted to attack China during a Taiwan crisis, and they said in those documents, now released last week, that, oh, these are just like iron bombs.

02:09:46.000 We ought to use these in every conflict, just as a conventional weapon, and Eisenhower had to say, no, that radiates people.

02:09:54.000 Yeah, but I mean... So I guess now that policy... I mean, that policy's here now.

02:09:59.000 Well, the thing is that with the tactical nuclear weapons, there's been a lot of propaganda by the Pentagon to present these mini-nukes as something different from a regular thermonuclear bomb, which they're not.

02:10:15.000 They have less explosive capacity, between one third and six times a Hiroshima bomb.

02:10:23.000 And they don't airburst.

02:10:23.000 Let me stop you.

02:10:24.000 They generally aren't airburst.

02:10:26.000 And so when a hydrogen weapon goes off in contact with the soil and surrounding metals, it creates thousands of times the fallout.

02:10:34.000 So they're actually more dirty from what I've seen.

02:10:37.000 Well, I mean, again, that issue is probably debatable.

02:10:42.000 I agree.

02:10:44.000 What the Pentagon scientists are saying is that the tactical nuclear weapons, because they bunker-bust the bombs, they explode underground.

02:10:54.000 But then when you look more carefully at the small print, they say 20 feet underground.

02:10:58.000 Now, 20 feet underground is probably, you know, the size of a two-story, you know, a three-story house.

02:11:07.000 So you could well imagine that everything will just simply explode, a big crater is formed, and of course you have radioactive fallout.

02:11:17.000 You can't avoid that.

02:11:18.000 That's the worst time when it detonates on the ground.

02:11:22.000 Absolutely.

02:11:23.000 Absolutely.

02:11:24.000 But the thing is, I think that what we have are decision makers which are the victims of their own lies and propaganda, that they ultimately even believe that a nuclear device, a nuclear weapon, is some kind of a humanitarian bomb.

02:11:42.000 And then they go along with that because it's They have a bunch of scientists at the research labs in Texas and California who say, well, yeah, go ahead and use them because they're safe for the surrounding civilian population.

02:11:56.000 And incidentally... By the way, this is a major shift in their mindset because until 10 years ago, they admitted DU was deadly poison and killed the troops.

02:12:04.000 Now they just threw all their real research out and said, it's good for you.

02:12:08.000 I mean, it's craziness is now... Go ahead.

02:12:11.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I think it goes back even further, because I recall when I started researching this, I went in and looked at Truman's diary before they dropped the nuclear, the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and in Truman's radio address, I think it was on the day that they bombed Nagasaki, 8th or 9th of August 1945,

02:12:39.000 He confirmed that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base.

02:12:49.000 And that it was because we wanted to save the lives of innocent civilians, unquote.

02:12:55.000 Incredible propaganda!

02:12:57.000 And either Truman was poorly briefed as to where the bomb would be dropped, or that he went along, or that he was plain ignorant of the geography of Japan.

02:13:09.000 Or a combination of that.

02:13:11.000 But the whole notion of collateral damage has been ingrained in US nuclear weapons policy, I think, right from the beginning.

02:13:21.000 Just amazing.

02:13:22.000 I mean, we all know that targeted civilians, and we all know it was a terror weapon, and they'd already tried to surrender.

02:13:27.000 But yeah, Truman spends it in a radio address of, don't worry, we bomb the military, not the people.

02:13:32.000 And it's a tiny bomb anyways, it's no big deal.

02:13:34.000 It was a friendly thing to do.

02:13:36.000 I want to carry you through the break and just continue broadcasting during the break so we have time here to cover some of the other issues.

02:13:41.000 Bottom line, in your gut, I know you don't want to be wrong, but, you know, they just said, we're sending a carrier, not to threaten them, but to let them know we're serious.

02:13:48.000 More doublespeak.

02:13:49.000 Do you think they're going to hit Iran?

02:13:51.000 Do you agree with Ray McGovern and others?

02:13:55.000 Do we get to that after the break now?

02:13:57.000 No, no, we're not going to take a break.

02:13:59.000 Just tell me.

02:14:00.000 Oh, okay.

02:14:01.000 Well, I'm not... I personally, if I look at the various countervailing forces, I would say that there are many factors which go against the war in Iraq.

02:14:14.000 I tend to agree.

02:14:17.000 I think it's lessening.

02:14:18.000 I think it's lessening.

02:14:19.000 You know, I said they probably weren't going to hit them two years ago and got called out that I wasn't, you know, the expert.

02:14:26.000 But they could still stage something, couldn't they?

02:14:29.000 Well, absolutely.

02:14:30.000 Now, you mentioned the issue of the false flag attack for the second 9-11.

02:14:35.000 Now the second 9-11 was announced by Dick Cheney quite a few years ago.

02:14:40.000 He said that there's going to be a second 9-11 and I'm absolutely convinced that if there is a second 9-11, Iran will be behind it. 0.99

02:14:49.000 So they've already planned that scenario.

02:14:52.000 And the Pentagon then released, there were some documents leased to the Washington Post where they said That a second 9-11 would be both an opportunity, a pretext and an opportunity which is lacking.

02:15:07.000 I'm quoting from the document.

02:15:10.000 So that the false flag attack on a US city, which would be an intelligence operation, is there.

02:15:18.000 The problem is that there are too many people and people in high places that know that 9/11 is an inside job.

02:15:29.000 What is the establishment...

02:15:31.000 Go ahead.

02:15:32.000 It could backlash.

02:15:33.000 I mean, it could backlash.

02:15:34.000 Well, exactly.

02:15:35.000 What is the establishment going to do?

02:15:37.000 Now you've got Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson and Best Actors 2008 and all these scientists and CIA section chief Bill Christensen and the former Italian president and former German defense minister and the polls showing the majority know it's an inside job.

02:15:54.000 Are you saying we have effectively, at least partially, taken their tool, a false flag, and broken it in front of their faces?

02:16:01.000 Well, it's a bit like crying wolf, huh?

02:16:05.000 You know, there have been so many terror alerts and terror... Of course, we had the London bombings and we had the liquid bomb attack and we know that the liquid bomb attack was a fake because the The alleged hijackers didn't have passports and tickets to board the plane, as was revealed actually in, I think it was Newsweek that revealed it in the small print.

02:16:28.000 Yeah, they have so overdone it all that it's obvious to everybody.

02:16:33.000 Well, it's not obvious to everybody because you still have, you know, you've got CNN, you've got Fox News and the BBC, which will tell us otherwise.

02:16:42.000 But again, people in high office in the U.S.

02:16:46.000 Congress, the increasing numbers of people who are, you know, What the US administration calls top officials because they have these pop-off exercises, anti-terror exercises, where they have, you know, people from the municipalities, the federal, the state governments, involved in scenarios.

02:17:09.000 And I think there are lots of people who are extremely skeptical.

02:17:15.000 On 9-11.

02:17:18.000 Certainly very skeptical on Iran as well.

02:17:22.000 Professor, plug some of your websites right now before we go to break.

02:17:25.000 Well, our website is www.globalresearch.ca, and my most recent book is called America's War on Terrorism.

02:17:38.000 Stay there.

02:17:39.000 Stay there.

02:17:39.000 We've got a break, but we're not going to break.

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02:17:46.000 Stay there, Professor.

02:17:47.000 Okay, we've got three minutes left, sir, and we've still got a large portion of the audience listening.

02:17:58.000 I'm going to have to let you go, but I want to get Trey to call you to set you up for, like, two hours in the near future.

02:18:03.000 In fact, I wanted you for longer.

02:18:04.000 I was surprised to only see you.

02:18:06.000 Well, that way we can really break everything down and really, you know, give everybody your geopolitical view.

02:18:10.000 But in three minutes, give me your take on the economy and then your take on the election.

02:18:15.000 Are we on now?

02:18:16.000 Yes, we're on now.

02:18:16.000 Go ahead.

02:18:18.000 On the economy, well, certainly I think some very serious Concerns with the rising price of food around the world, which is attributable to a speculative onslaught in the commodity markets, in the grain markets.

02:18:41.000 It is a deliberate thing.

02:18:43.000 It's triggering famine around the world because food prices have doubled, in some cases tripled.

02:18:52.000 It's the response of the government and the authorities, I think, is dismal because what they're doing is they're sending in food aid.

02:19:04.000 This crisis of of rising food prices can be resolved simply by freezing speculative transactions on the Chicago and New York mercantile exchanges.

02:19:20.000 Yeah, not even price fixing, but just to put a ceiling on it where you can't exactly, and the Saudis have been caught being involved in that, correct?

02:19:29.000 Well, yeah, but there's also such things as index funds.

02:19:32.000 You're not even buying... It's not the regular futures market, you know, where people involved in trade are... They have to... It's groupings of it.

02:19:41.000 Oh, it is betting on the movement.

02:19:44.000 It's the same thing as short...

02:19:47.000 It's the same mechanism applied to short-selling currencies, let's say in the Asian crisis.

02:19:54.000 Okay, we're out of time, in one minute.

02:19:57.000 I mean, all three candidates run by the same puppeteers?

02:20:01.000 No, I don't think so.

02:20:03.000 I mean, I think Obama, from my standpoint, is somebody who is articulate, who addresses issues, and so on.

02:20:13.000 And Hillary, I think, is the one they're all behind.

02:20:15.000 Hillary's the one with the big power behind her, right? 1.00

02:20:17.000 That's why we have disinfo agents out saying Obama's the demon.

02:20:21.000 Well, yeah, but I mean, Obama still has the corporate lobby behind him.

02:20:26.000 We don't doubt that.

02:20:28.000 But under the circumstances, it's better to have somebody like Obama than a clone of George W. Bush, which would be McCain, and who can be manipulated and who may lead us into World War III.

02:20:44.000 Okay, Professor, we're out of time.

02:20:46.000 I want to get you on for a full two hours, if not just an hour, in the next couple of weeks.

02:20:49.000 I'll have Trey call you.

02:20:50.000 Thank you, sir.

02:20:51.000 It's a pleasure to be on your program.

02:20:53.000 Take care.

02:20:55.000 Yeah, if you go to InfoWars.com, listen to the streams there.

02:21:03.000 We do a lot of behind-the-scenes interviews where it just continues for presentplanet.tv viewers.

02:21:09.000 You have a 15-cent-a-day membership or for the free audio streams at InfoWars.com.

02:21:13.000 A lot of radio show today.

02:21:15.000 I'm going to end the main transmission with five minutes of Deborah Jean Palfrey On my show, just back in mid-March, she was killed, murdered.

02:21:26.000 The disinfo agents are now saying they've confirmed that she hung herself.

02:21:32.000 They murdered her, and this is how they do it. 0.96

02:21:34.000 They killed one of the girls she had that was reportedly hooked in with the White House, and they'll probably kill more of these women. 0.99

02:21:40.000 They could cut their heads off on TV and have guys in black uniforms do it and the public would say it was done by the Easter Bunny if the media told them. 0.99

02:21:46.000 So here's this poor lady right now. 1.00

02:21:48.000 I'm going to come back and go into overdrive on the Infowars.com audio streams.

02:21:52.000 So let's go ahead and go to this.

02:21:54.000 Well look, I mean, she's already dropped the atomic bomb on them.

02:21:58.000 She's already released the numbers.

02:22:00.000 Yeah, yeah, I have.

02:22:01.000 And not to be concerned, I have no intention of letting anyone buy me off or make any kind of a deal with me.

02:22:09.000 And you're not planning to commit suicide?

02:22:11.000 And I'm not planning to commit suicide either.

02:22:13.000 The fact that you're so visible really protects you going on Larry King and other big shows.

02:22:19.000 But you want to put it on record that you're not planning to commit suicide?

02:22:22.000 No, I'm not planning to commit suicide.

02:22:23.000 I'm planning to go into court on April 7th if indeed we do have the trial.

02:22:29.000 I plan on defending myself vigorously, and I plan on exposing the government in ways that, you know, I do not think they want me to expose them.

02:22:39.000 I want them to explain to me in open court why they came after me.

02:22:43.000 I mean, how would you not know that it was Cheney?

02:22:45.000 And how do we know that Brandi Britton, one of your girls who committed suicide, didn't commit suicide?

02:22:54.000 Well, we don't know about that.

02:22:55.000 There's two schools of thought.

02:22:57.000 One says yes, one says no.

02:22:58.000 But regarding Dick Cheney, he very possibly could have used the service.

02:23:02.000 I don't remember him.

02:23:03.000 I'm sure he used an alias.

02:23:06.000 After all, he probably would not have used the service once he became Vice President.

02:23:10.000 That's pretty obvious.

02:23:11.000 He became very well known.

02:23:13.000 But in the mid to late 90s, as he stated off the radar screen and during the Clinton years, You know, I could have sent easily a 25, 26, 28-year-old woman, we hired age 23 and up, who would have been 18 years of age when he was the Secretary of Defense back in the late 80s and early 90s.

02:23:35.000 And to be honest with you, she wouldn't have recognized him.

02:23:38.000 But why is his name coming up?

02:23:41.000 Well, you know, there are people who claim that Wayne Mattson, who claims he has sources confirming it.

02:23:48.000 These sources are not coming forward, though.

02:23:50.000 Well, I know why, but it's true.

02:23:52.000 Boy, this is dangerous.

02:23:54.000 What were the circumstances of it?

02:23:55.000 Maybe we'll question Brandy Britton's death.

02:24:00.000 Well, you know, people say that she was a very upbeat person, a very positive person, that she was going into court, she was ready to fight him, that she absolutely was not going to give in, and all of a sudden, I think a few days before she was to go to trial, she committed suicide.

02:24:22.000 And her family members, her friends, say that this was extremely abnormal, she was not in the frame of mind to commit suicide.

02:24:29.000 Uh, you know that perhaps she knew something?

02:24:32.000 There's been a lot of speculation about that.

02:24:35.000 She had very little to lose.

02:24:36.000 She wasn't going to go to jail.

02:24:37.000 That's right.

02:24:38.000 She'd been charged on a prostitution case. 0.99

02:24:40.000 She'd been busted, but I guess she was going to name names or something.

02:24:44.000 Who knows?

02:24:45.000 Who knows?

02:24:45.000 Maybe that's what they thought she was going to do.

02:24:47.000 Maybe that's what they thought I was going to do when I suddenly closed my business in August of 2006 and was selling my house and trying to move to Europe.

02:24:57.000 I had no intention of doing any such thing.

02:25:00.000 I just had every intention of just moving on with my life, and they panicked and thought that I was going to do something similar to what you're doing.

02:25:07.000 Okay, folks.

02:25:08.000 Okay, John, thanks for editing that.

02:25:09.000 We'll play more tomorrow on the main show, 11 to 3 p.m.

02:25:12.000 Central, now in overdrive at the InfoWars.com streams.

02:25:16.000 Wayne Madsen is going to be on with us to talk about this, and I'm going to talk about other big developments on this case.

02:25:22.000 PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, you can watch right now.

02:25:26.000 Again, InfoWars.com, ladies and gentlemen.

02:25:29.000 Right now, you go there to listen to the InfoWars streams.

02:25:31.000 More exclusives.

02:25:34.000 Thank you for listening to G... Good job, Jones.

02:25:36.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

02:25:37.000 Thank you.

02:25:37.000 We'll see you back for the main transmission tomorrow, John.

02:25:39.000 Good job.

02:25:40.000 Thank you, sir.

02:25:41.000 Perfect.

02:25:41.000 Take care.

02:25:42.000 Alright.

02:25:42.000 U.S.CivilFlags.org is here to... We are back live, ladies and gentlemen.

02:25:46.000 Transmission continuing into overdrive.

02:25:49.000 We do have Wayne Madsen.

02:25:50.000 Yes, hello Alex.

02:25:52.000 Sir, we have Miss Britton clearly being murdered, according to her family.

02:25:58.000 Now, Debra Jean Palfrey says she would never kill herself, even if she was found guilty, that she would then name names.

02:26:04.000 And I guess they didn't want the name being named.

02:26:06.000 I would imagine, buddy, you are in grave danger right now.

02:26:09.000 Wayne Madsen, worked for the National Security Agency, lives in D.C., runs WayneMadsenReport.com.

02:26:15.000 Give us your analysis, sir.

02:26:17.000 Well, I have to say I was shocked to hear about what happened to Jean this morning.

02:26:23.000 I saw her last in the courtroom the day the judge announced something very strange.

02:26:28.000 The judge, James Robertson, said on a Monday morning after a weekend that after an exchange of emails between him, the defense, and the prosecutors, that he decided that they all decided they were going to end the case.

02:26:43.000 uh... he's going to give jury instructions and there were going to be final arguments and vitter and all of them the guy mr shock and all mr cheney's friend and uh... tobias the head of u_s_a_ id were never going to be called as witnesses uh... that was the end of it he said look uh...

02:27:00.000 i realize i'm obligated to make these emails public i haven't seen emails yet i i i i I've never seen a case tried over the internet over a weekend.

02:27:11.000 I think Judge Robertson owes us all an explanation because now we've seen the tragic outcome of the case.

02:27:19.000 You talk to her quite a bit.

02:27:20.000 I talked to her on air three times, I think four times.

02:27:24.000 When was the last time you talked to her?

02:27:25.000 What's your intel on this?

02:27:26.000 Hung, let me just read this to the listeners that are out there and the viewers that are out there watching.

02:27:32.000 DC Madam commits suicide in Tarpon Springs.

02:27:36.000 Police say DC Madam Deborah Jean Palfrey, shame on them going along with this, hung herself at her mother's house in Tarpon Springs Mobile Home Park Thursday. 0.99

02:27:45.000 Palfrey was dubbed the D.C.

02:27:46.000 Madam of the national media after her arrest for alleged running an upscale call girl ring in the nation's capital.

02:27:53.000 She was convicted on Tuesday on money laundering.

02:27:57.000 First case in modern history of that. 0.84

02:27:58.000 Now they're going after Elliot Spitzer, they're now claiming he liked to have women do things with sex toys to him. 0.99

02:28:05.000 And in the CIA, New York Post, just, just, well, Meemaw Bush has so many gay porn stars visiting him, you know, it makes your head spin. 0.99

02:28:12.000 It's just, it's just all this political assassination. 0.90

02:28:15.000 She was convicted on Tuesday of money laundering and using mail for illegal purposes and racketeering, but she had not yet been sentenced.

02:28:23.000 Just like the same thing happened to Ken Lay, he died of a heart attack before he could be sentenced.

02:28:26.000 This is a tragic news and my heart goes out to her mother, Defense Attorney Preston Burton, who represented Paul Free in her criminal trial.

02:28:33.000 I guarantee you, she talked, her cell phone, they were listening to her over that.

02:28:36.000 She said, I'm going to go ahead and name names and boy... 0.98

02:28:39.000 They got stuff where they can just, with a van, microwave you through a wall, come in, hang you, or say we're going to kill your whole family if you don't put your head in this noose. 0.84

02:28:48.000 They killed a local Palestinian a few weeks ago in Austin, cut his whole body up, bound him, threw him in the river. 0.57

02:28:54.000 I mean, Wayne Madsen, this is so obvious, this murder, what happened to Miss Britton, one of her girls.

02:29:01.000 Give us your take on this.

02:29:03.000 Well, I'm also getting over the fact that Houston police shot a CIA agent, Roland Carnaby, on Tuesday.

02:29:09.000 So there's a lot of weird stuff happening.

02:29:11.000 But, Gene Palfrey, two things wrong with the reports from the corporate media.

02:29:16.000 She was convicted on April the 15th, not this past Tuesday.

02:29:19.000 And there was also an indication that one ABC affiliate in Tampa said she was charged with running a house of prostitution. 0.97

02:29:28.000 That's absolutely incorrect.

02:29:29.000 She was not.

02:29:30.000 I would point out that ABC 2020, they were the ones that promised to name names of her clients, and they spiked the story.

02:29:37.000 I know for a fact they received pressure from Disney executives, who in turn received pressure from the White House, not to run those names.

02:29:44.000 I've reported that Dick Cheney was one of those clients.

02:29:47.000 I stand by that report.

02:29:49.000 I will continue to stand by that report.

02:29:51.000 And I have other names that are very close to Cheney.

02:29:53.000 I did meet with Gene Palfrey on several occasions socially.

02:29:57.000 Let me stop you for your own safety.

02:30:00.000 You better say everything you know right now.

02:30:02.000 Was Debra Jean Palfrey your source that it was Dick Cheney?

02:30:06.000 Uh, somebody very close to Gene Palfrey was my source.

02:30:09.000 Well, we don't want them to get killed.

02:30:10.000 Who was the source?

02:30:12.000 Well, I don't want to go into detail.

02:30:14.000 Do you want to say right now you're not going to hang yourself tomorrow night?

02:30:18.000 I'm not going to hang myself.

02:30:19.000 Let's be clear.

02:30:20.000 You're not going to commit suicide?

02:30:22.000 Oh, no way.

02:30:22.000 Say it all.

02:30:23.000 Say it all right now.

02:30:24.000 I'm not going to commit suicide.

02:30:26.000 I'm very happy here.

02:30:27.000 I want to see this.

02:30:30.000 On January 20th of next year, I want to see George Bush flown preferably to The Hague and not back to the Crawford Ranch. 0.71

02:30:35.000 So I'm going to stick around for that.

02:30:38.000 Well, this is Dangerous Waters here.

02:30:42.000 Look, I would tell people what you do know, because you know they're going to probably come kill you and others.

02:30:46.000 Wayne, you know we're not joking. 0.75

02:30:48.000 Well, I know, but they better take their best shot.

02:30:52.000 They better not miss, because I won't.

02:30:54.000 That's all I have to say.

02:30:56.000 But anyway, Dick Cheney was obviously a client.

02:31:00.000 I know for a fact, also, From very good sources, there were a couple of GOP candidates, one present candidate, well I pretty much said so, and some previous candidates for the GOP nomination for president were also clients.

02:31:12.000 So John McCain?

02:31:13.000 John McCain, yes.

02:31:14.000 Do you think that's what this housekeeping can be about?

02:31:16.000 Yes.

02:31:17.000 Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani.

02:31:23.000 And do you believe, Palinfrey, that she didn't know who these clients were?

02:31:26.000 I think she knew exactly who they were.

02:31:28.000 As a matter of fact, remember, most of her clients were in McLean, Virginia.

02:31:33.000 That was the center of activity.

02:31:34.000 Thirteen years she had the most discreet escort service in Washington.

02:31:39.000 She didn't send... Why didn't they leave her alone?

02:31:41.000 Why are they killing all these women? 1.00

02:31:43.000 They're the ones that called them! 0.89

02:31:45.000 Exactly, and this is how they're cleaning it up.

02:31:48.000 They used them and now they're disposing of them, and it's disgusting.

02:31:52.000 Obviously the agency, meaning the CIA, used these girls because these were professional, well-educated, these were not barely English-speaking Koreans or people from... Oh, you think it's an intelligence op?

02:32:07.000 You think these girls were being run by an agency? 0.98

02:32:10.000 I absolutely do, and I feel that... I pressed Jean on that many occasions.

02:32:14.000 She never told me, but of course she may have made an agreement never to say that.

02:32:17.000 So, that makes sense.

02:32:19.000 Oh, you're saying you believe she was working for a subsection of the U.S., or Israelis, or Russians?

02:32:24.000 No, no, I believe McLean, Virginia, obviously, is where the CIA is located, I believe.

02:32:29.000 But, I mean, so it wasn't subsections.

02:32:31.000 Well, you know, it's infiltrated.

02:32:33.000 So you believe the U.S.

02:32:34.000 government was running an operation against U.S.

02:32:37.000 targets?

02:32:38.000 Well, she said on this show That they were using her as bait to track people?

02:32:45.000 Oh, I believe that's true, and I believe they were, you know, entrapping Middle Eastern leaders. 1.00

02:32:49.000 We know that they were clients.

02:32:50.000 We know that Cheney was using them not only for his own predilections, but also to entertain potential customers in the Middle East for Halliburton.

02:33:00.000 We know that Cheney... I reported today, I reiterated that some of Cheney's top lieutenants at Halliburton and KBR, Kellogg Brown and Root, And we know about the sexual harassment of KBR people.

02:33:11.000 This is an awful company, and so is Halliburton. 0.82

02:33:14.000 Well, it came out about the CIA head, Porter Goss, would go to the Watergate, where on one floor you had gambling, the next floor you had the, quote, free hookers. 0.93

02:33:25.000 So it's just... I mean, why didn't they kill those girls? 0.99

02:33:28.000 We don't know that they haven't, because the Sherlington Limousine that was delivering those women to the Watergate and to another hotel in Washington, the Sherlington Limousine was transporting Pamela Martin and Associates escorts, the escorts that work for Gene Palfrey.

02:33:46.000 Do you think these women have any idea how much danger they're in? 1.00

02:33:51.000 Women out there listening, if you're going to be engaged in prostitution, stay far away from Washington and high-powered dignitaries in New York. 1.00

02:33:59.000 Absolutely.

02:34:00.000 And you know, Pamela Martin also, there was this Baltimore connection.

02:34:03.000 NBC Nightline just recently ran a story about what happened to the Assistant U.S.

02:34:07.000 Attorney in Baltimore, Jonathan Luna.

02:34:09.000 There is a definite connection between his death and his office was investigating the Governor of Maryland, Republican Governor of Maryland, Bob Ehrlich.

02:34:17.000 And you mentioned Brandy Britton, the other Pamela Martin escort who hanged herself.

02:34:22.000 in in near baltimore that that she was apparently somehow linked up to the ring that involved uh bob ehrlich and it involved jack averma how did they get the local cops to play along with this i guess just for their paycheck hell they had the police commissioner baltimore as one of their clients and he was He was prosecuted by the U.S.

02:34:46.000 Attorney.

02:34:47.000 The first U.S.

02:34:48.000 Attorney fired after Bush's re-election was Tom DiBaggio, the U.S.

02:34:51.000 Attorney for Maryland, because he was pursuing the case against Ehrlich and his use of the prostitute.

02:34:58.000 Okay, so from your intel, again, Wayne Madsen, former, worked with the NSA, you know, muckrakes, corruption with the Wayne Madsen Report, great info, always over there, very scary info, very dangerous info, you have a lot of courage, sir.

02:35:12.000 Going back here, why do you think they originally raided her when she was leaving the country?

02:35:18.000 Do you think she was going rogue on them?

02:35:20.000 Or who's playing who?

02:35:23.000 What do you think developed here?

02:35:24.000 What are you being told by your sources?

02:35:26.000 I asked her about that, and Jean herself told me that what they were afraid of is that when she was going to move to Germany, she had an apartment in Berlin, she was going to retire from the business, close it up, go to Europe, and interestingly enough, the apartment was in East Berlin, which made me wonder, was she told about that by maybe some friend of hers in that agency I mentioned not too long ago?

02:35:49.000 But they were deadly afraid that her black book, this is the term they used, this is what the prosecutors used, Her black book was going to appear on the pages of Der Spiegel or Stern magazine in Germany.

02:36:05.000 Do you believe her when she says that she wasn't planning any of that?

02:36:10.000 I don't think she was going to do that.

02:36:12.000 She had millions of dollars.

02:36:15.000 Why would she want to destroy her life and send black-op murder squads after her? 0.95

02:36:19.000 Absolutely.

02:36:20.000 She would have no reason to do that.

02:36:21.000 But see, the people in the government, in the Bush administration, didn't know where she was coming from, and that's when they jumped on her.

02:36:29.000 Now, does the evidence show they tried to kill the case?

02:36:32.000 Because from what I've seen, they just left it alone.

02:36:35.000 Well, they had her tied up.

02:36:37.000 They seized her assets first.

02:36:39.000 She had to go through this awful issue with civil asset forfeiture.

02:36:43.000 She never got her assets returned.

02:36:45.000 But the one thing they left were those phone records.

02:36:48.000 They never seized those phone records.

02:36:49.000 Of course, this was an operation done by the Internal Revenue Service and the Postal Inspection Service.

02:36:56.000 They played all kinds of games, you know, these cat-and-mouse games where they were harassing her. 0.93

02:37:00.000 But finally, you know, they brought the charge.

02:37:02.000 I would also add that the first U.S.

02:37:04.000 judge, Gladys Kessler, in a very surprised decision, asked the Chief Judge Tom Hogan in Washington to be relieved of the case.

02:37:13.000 So she was the first judge.

02:37:17.000 Gene had, and she asked to be relieved of the case.

02:37:19.000 I wonder, was she being pressured by somebody?

02:37:22.000 Boil it down. 0.99

02:37:23.000 Yeah, well, she'll hang herself next. 1.00

02:37:25.000 Then we'll all start hanging ourselves. 0.91

02:37:26.000 I mean, I am not, folks.

02:37:29.000 Guaranteed.

02:37:29.000 I am not ever going to commit suicide on all these subjects.

02:37:34.000 Then boil it down.

02:37:34.000 From the sources, from what you've got, in a minute, I mean, how would you boil this down?

02:37:39.000 What has happened here?

02:37:41.000 Well, I think, you know, whether this was a tragic suicide or there was foul play involved, Jean Palfrey did not want to go to prison.

02:37:49.000 I do know that from talking to people close to her.

02:37:51.000 She feared that, and we know about, you know, from the Don Siegelman case, how he was mistreated in prison.

02:37:57.000 So, obviously, the Bush administration wants this story to go away.

02:38:02.000 I am not going to let it go away. 0.96

02:38:08.000 I hope they don't taser you and then you wake up dead though, Wayne.

02:38:12.000 Well, like I said, they better take their best shot because if they miss, I won't.

02:38:17.000 Well, that's what they do.

02:38:18.000 You walk in, they taser you, they kill you, and you never even know they killed you.

02:38:21.000 And then the cops on their payroll, you know, just show up and... I mean, it's getting ridiculous. 0.97

02:38:27.000 The local Palestinian guy, they cut up all over his body. 0.71

02:38:31.000 When they fished him out of the water, the report was he was all sliced up.

02:38:34.000 Arms, legs bound, mouth and eyes covered with duct tape.

02:38:39.000 And then the news said, oh, it's quite normal, he committed suicide this way.

02:38:43.000 I mean, it's just, I mean, they could drop me into a meat grinder on a jumbotron at the Super Bowl and have Bush pull the lever and they tell us it was suicide.

02:38:53.000 Well, the Assistant U.S.

02:38:54.000 Attorney in Baltimore, Jonathan Luna, they said he stabbed himself to death 33 times with a penknife.

02:38:59.000 So, uh, this is a guy who was at the same office that was investigating the Baltimore Police Commissioner and the Republican Governor of Maryland, Bob Ehrlich, for their involvement with the D.C., uh, with the D.C.

02:39:09.000 Madame Jean Palfrey.

02:39:10.000 So, you go figure how an Assistant U.S. 0.52

02:39:13.000 Attorney could stab himself to death 33 times with a penknife.

02:39:18.000 And then, and then he found half drowned in a creek in Pennsylvania off the Turnpike.

02:39:24.000 Meanwhile, we've got national TV anchors who have girls with their brains bashed out, found in their offices, so they're giving TV shows instead of... I mean, what is it like in D.C.? 1.00

02:39:35.000 I mean, I've been there quite a few times, but... I mean, it's just insane asylum of... It's wretched.

02:39:40.000 It's wretched, Alex.

02:39:41.000 I mean, on a day like this, I wonder what the hell I'm doing here.

02:39:44.000 But, you know, I mean, if I don't...

02:39:47.000 You say the CIA agent got killed in Houston.

02:39:49.000 i sold twenty twenty eighty brian ross kill the story uh...

02:39:53.000 that may mean thank you i got you know i have to do the job that they're not doing in the washington post it is not doing in the rest of the networks are not doing in the rest of the big media is you say the c_i_a_ agent got killed in houston tell me about that they are not part of the uh...

02:40:12.000 it was a long time uh...

02:40:14.000 c_i_a_ agent uh...

02:40:15.000 He was the head of the local Houston chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers, AFIO.

02:40:23.000 He was gunned down by two Houston cops Tuesday morning at 1130 near the gallery at less than six blocks from the home of George and Barbara Bush.

02:40:31.000 And they say he gave the police a high-speed chase.

02:40:35.000 They said he was reaching for a weapon.

02:40:37.000 Now we know he was reaching for his cell phone to call the local FBI to vouch for his identity.

02:40:41.000 And we know they've got hitmen on every major department.

02:40:43.000 Right.

02:40:44.000 And he has CIA credentials.

02:40:46.000 They went to his home.

02:40:47.000 He had things signed by George Tenet, flax for his dedication, years of service to the CIA, pictures of him standing at the CIA courses in Langley, and now the corporate media is suggesting that maybe he faked all this, that he was not really a CIA agent.

02:41:02.000 They go and interview his ex-wife, who said, well, he told me a lot, it's all pale.

02:41:06.000 I mean, can you imagine?

02:41:07.000 The word I'm getting is from good sources in Houston that Carnaby may have been hit because it may have been a result of The FBI taking down this old Israeli spy who was tied up with Jonathan Pollard, Ben-Ami Kandish, just last week, and they're threatening to go after other high-level Israeli moles in the Bush administration.

02:41:29.000 And this may have been a hit on Carnaby.

02:41:33.000 Carnaby, I would add, was a Lebanese-American.

02:41:36.000 His father was a very well-known Lebanese diplomat. 0.82

02:41:39.000 Yeah, they're killing a lot of Lebanese and Palestinians.

02:41:42.000 It seems that way.

02:41:44.000 So, do you think Israel's tied in any way?

02:41:49.000 Floating a bunch of names?

02:41:50.000 I have heard that Houston is a very large Mossad station in the United States.

02:41:56.000 Oh yeah, of course.

02:41:57.000 And Mossad has their fingerprints all over the Carnaby killing.

02:42:02.000 And so now they can just have their cops in plain view?

02:42:04.000 The cops pull you over, they get out, and they walk over and gun you down?

02:42:08.000 Apparently.

02:42:09.000 Apparently.

02:42:14.000 You know, I wonder if it's going to turn out that these cops are Israelis. 0.71

02:42:17.000 It'll be case closed if that's it.

02:42:18.000 Well, either they were influenced or paid off by them.

02:42:22.000 We do know that the ADL has a tremendous influence in some of the larger police departments in the United States.

02:42:28.000 Oh yeah, they've been convicted of having the police keep private dossiers for them.

02:42:32.000 Absolutely.

02:42:33.000 And by the way, everybody of note, not just if you don't like Israel.

02:42:38.000 God help us, this country is so... it's just... What are the main factions from your research running things right now?

02:42:38.000 Right.

02:42:45.000 Well, look, we still have this Chaney faction, which has its own separate chain of command, even over nuclear weapons. 0.97

02:42:52.000 Uh, this chain goes from Cheney's office, bypasses Gates, and in one case for the nuclear chain, it goes right into the Air Force.

02:43:02.000 Air Force Secretary Wynn, Air Force Chief of Staff General Michael Mosley, and that incident with the nukes at Minot and Barksdale last year was run out of Cheney's office.

02:43:12.000 What do you think that really was in Minot?

02:43:14.000 I believe that that was tied to what happened with the Syrian facility, which happened a few days later.

02:43:20.000 I think it was a prelude to using those six nuclear cruise missiles on some sort of either attack on Iran or some sort of false flag that was going to be blamed on Iran.

02:43:32.000 And you think it leaked because people blew the whistle?

02:43:34.000 At first I didn't think that was anything, but then all those people that were involved with them died.

02:43:39.000 Yeah, I checked out some of those deaths, and unfortunately some were, as we know, the VA has covered up the fact that 30 veterans kill themselves each day, which is an amazing number when you think about it.

02:43:52.000 Some of those deaths were... You know what it is?

02:43:54.000 We've got these weird suicides.

02:43:57.000 We've got these, just like Palfrey. 0.97

02:44:00.000 We've got these crazy old men with rotten hearts, both physically and spiritually. 1.00

02:44:05.000 They just want war and global government. 0.99

02:44:07.000 Cheney, we know, is really a rough character.

02:44:10.000 I think before he dies, he'll just decide to nuke everything or something, probably.

02:44:14.000 I mean, there's no telling. 0.99

02:44:15.000 These people are just psychopathic killers and nothing but psycho cops that follow any order they give them. 1.00

02:44:20.000 We're just screwed. 1.00

02:44:22.000 Right, right. 0.97

02:44:22.000 I always said George Bush didn't want to be the President of the United States. 0.97

02:44:26.000 He wanted to be the last President of the United States.

02:44:29.000 But where do you see this?

02:44:30.000 I mean, they own Hillary. 1.00

02:44:32.000 Limbaugh's behind her.

02:44:33.000 Fox is behind her.

02:44:35.000 They've got Obama with the kind of whole Rockefeller arm through Zbigniew Brzezinski. 0.98

02:44:41.000 You've got McCain, totally psychopathic with cancer, running around. 0.59

02:44:46.000 I mean, I've seen video of him that you don't see on the news. 1.00

02:44:48.000 I mean, he's completely nuts. 0.65

02:44:51.000 I mean, it's just, I guess this is Rome in decline. 0.98

02:44:54.000 It could be.

02:44:55.000 I mean, the only thing we could possibly see this, Davis, is there's enough time for a third-party candidate to emerge, but I'm afraid that person could be basically a power broker, like we know that Ross Perot tossed it to Clinton in 92, and I'd hate to see, you know, a third-party candidate.

02:45:15.000 It'd be nice to see a third-party candidate win, is what I'm trying to say, rather than be a power broker.

02:45:21.000 Well, this is definitely a reckless group.

02:45:23.000 I think their chutzpah has gotten to them, and it's just wild-eyed craziness now.

02:45:29.000 I mean, these guys are bored.

02:45:31.000 I just think they love all the chaos they've created.

02:45:33.000 What do you say to that?

02:45:34.000 Well, I do.

02:45:36.000 I think the neocons, what do you want to call these people?

02:45:39.000 The Christian Dominionists, the Reconstructionists, they pray for our They don't belong in the White House or Congress. 1.00

02:45:50.000 They belong in lunatic asylum. 0.78

02:45:54.000 Meanwhile, you've got all these nihilistic people pushing the phony environmental amendment.

02:45:59.000 Wayne Madsen, report.com, and a great source of info.

02:46:01.000 In the few minutes we've got left with you, Wayne, getting more into Deborah Jean Palfrey.

02:46:05.000 I mean, on my show, repeatedly saying she would never commit suicide.

02:46:08.000 We played that earlier.

02:46:09.000 We'll play more of it tomorrow, 11 to 3 central on the main show.

02:46:12.000 This is overdrive right now.

02:46:15.000 Wayne, you talked to her, you met with her.

02:46:19.000 Did she say anything like, if they convict me, I'm going public, or I'm going to release names?

02:46:24.000 Any details you can give us.

02:46:27.000 What were your other sources in D.C.

02:46:29.000 saying that this is McCain, this is Cheney, this is all these people?

02:46:33.000 Well, there were other sources coming forward that really sympathized with her, with Jean Palfrey, and said, look, you might not hear this from her, but here's some additional names now.

02:46:44.000 I know that she had inklings, if she didn't have Full knowledge, she had inklings about who some of these clients were.

02:46:53.000 But she was trying to, in one respect, I think she was afraid of what could happen if she came totally clean.

02:47:02.000 Now, she did release these phone records, and she eventually released them to the public.

02:47:06.000 We did get a couple of names.

02:47:07.000 We got Vitter, we got Tobias.

02:47:10.000 These are years old, the numbers change, and of course, offices.

02:47:13.000 Yeah, and a lot of them were hotels, and they were very fancy hotels.

02:47:17.000 But they're dead ends.

02:47:18.000 And I looked at that.

02:47:19.000 I went through that list.

02:47:20.000 Well, she kept saying, look, I'll just go away.

02:47:23.000 Leave me alone.

02:47:25.000 I'll drop this.

02:47:26.000 Why are you doing this to me?

02:47:27.000 Yeah, I think they just wanted her, you know, they wanted her on... You know, after she was convicted, the prosecutor actually put his hand up like he had won just, you know, his favorite team just won a football game.

02:47:42.000 I mean, just that kind of thing just bothered me.

02:47:45.000 You get this from a U.S. 0.99

02:47:46.000 attorney.

02:47:48.000 You know, he went, yeah, yeah, we got her, you know, like...

02:47:51.000 And then they wanted her to go directly to jail, like they did to Don Siegelman.

02:47:54.000 So they obviously didn't want her between the conviction and the time of sentencing to have any... Well, let me expand on that.

02:48:00.000 We now have the White House executive order, the memos, ordering the torture, and then they would send their own people who'd carried out the torture to prison and grandstand against it, and then one of them tried to defend himself with memos, and they declared a Patriot Act, said he was a terrorist, and wouldn't let him defend himself. 0.98

02:48:17.000 I mean, it's so incredible That they hire the prostitutes and then they kill them and I guess they're psycho killers. 0.97

02:48:24.000 I mean they just do whatever they want. 0.99

02:48:26.000 They just... 1.00

02:48:29.000 I mean, these are sick people. 0.96

02:48:31.000 We had the former prosecutor in Guantanamo now showing up as a witness for the defense. 0.61

02:48:37.000 I mean, this reminds me of the French Revolution where the executioners eventually became those who executed themselves.

02:48:45.000 You know, I always thought elites wanted stability and soft power.

02:48:50.000 I guess the old ones did and they were bad enough. 0.99

02:48:52.000 This is really a crew of complete maniacs.

02:48:55.000 I believe they are, and I look at this bunch in the White House, you look at these movies about the boys in a bunker in Berlin in April of 45, I think there's a lot of similarities. 0.97

02:49:11.000 I wonder, I guess the special ops guys that have been doing this for 30 years, I guess they just like drugging a woman or tasing her and then hanging her.

02:49:19.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, you gotta wonder what goes through a cop's mind when he, you know, we see these reports about tasering old ladies and guys in wheelchairs.

02:49:28.000 I mean, what kind of sick people are they?

02:49:33.000 Yeah, we know going back into the 60s they had hit teams in LA run by the police chief and by the CIA and I guess now that's just, they just rule and they got, that's it and shut up, we're the mafia and that's the end of it. 0.96

02:49:45.000 Absolutely.

02:49:46.000 You know, getting back to Jean Palfrey, the one thing that really bugs me here is her very elderly mother, Blanche, living in this manufactured home north of Tampa in Tarpon Springs, not only had to deal with this tragic death, but had to deal with a Fox News helicopter hovering over her home.

02:50:02.000 Can you imagine what she went through this morning?

02:50:07.000 Again, they continue the torture even after Jean's death.

02:50:16.000 I would also add that they harassed her mother, the agent harassed her mother. 0.99

02:50:20.000 Came around to visit her one night at 8 o'clock in the evening and really scared her.

02:50:25.000 You know what ladies in their 80s. 1.00

02:50:27.000 Well, they're good at this.

02:50:28.000 Reading the details, it really stinks to high heaven.

02:50:32.000 I mean, what does the public think about this?

02:50:34.000 I mean, if they're torturing and chopping up Palestinians and duct-taping them in the river and then saying it's suicide, I guess in a way this is a message to us that can think. 0.96

02:50:44.000 It's like, hey, we kill whoever we want. 0.98

02:50:47.000 Well, that's right. 0.98

02:50:48.000 That's right.

02:50:49.000 And, you know, as I said, we may have a turf war here with what happened to Carnaby.

02:50:55.000 CIA agent in Houston.

02:50:57.000 We may have a turf war as a result of us getting tough with this old Mossad guy and going after potentially some others.

02:51:04.000 The way you deal with them is the way you deal with anybody that does that kind of thing.

02:51:08.000 You start delivering some Mossad agents to the Israeli embassy in Washington in boxes and in pieces.

02:51:13.000 Maybe they'll get the message then to stop their nonsense over here.

02:51:17.000 Maybe they'll set a nuke off and run around grandstanding. 0.91

02:51:19.000 How much do they have?

02:51:20.000 They might do that anyway.

02:51:22.000 Well, they have had people in the Knesset say they may nuke Europe.

02:51:26.000 Well, that's always nice to hear.

02:51:27.000 Investigators say Palomfrey's 70-year-old mother, Blanche, noticed a three-wheel bicycle had been moved from a shed next to her home.

02:51:34.000 When she went to the shed to investigate, I mean, that's perfect.

02:51:36.000 She gets out of her car, they tase her, they take her out, they hang her.

02:51:40.000 Oh, that's, oh man, that she didn't hang herself in the house, which psychologically, you do it in a comfortable place.

02:51:46.000 I mean, that is total murder.

02:51:47.000 This is, oh my God.

02:51:48.000 That's when she found her daughter hanging from the ceiling by a nylon rope in the shed. 0.99

02:51:53.000 She called 911, but Palfrey was already dead.

02:51:56.000 There were handwritten notes at the scene.

02:51:58.000 Oh, yes.

02:51:59.000 There always are.

02:52:01.000 Indicating that Palfrey intended to take her own life.

02:52:03.000 A lot of times, they'll just taser you.

02:52:05.000 You wake up tied down. 1.00

02:52:06.000 They go, listen, your mama's in there, and I'm going to go in there, and I'm going to rape her, and then I'm going to kill her. 1.00

02:52:10.000 But it's going to take a few weeks unless you go ahead and you write this like I say right now. 1.00

02:52:15.000 That's how they did it.

02:52:16.000 There were handwritten notes at the scene, including that Palfrey intended to take her own life, and no foul play was suspected.

02:52:21.000 Oh, never.

02:52:22.000 During the trial, Palfrey denied an escort service.

02:52:25.000 Well, there you go.

02:52:27.000 It's case closed.

02:52:28.000 Everything's fine.

02:52:29.000 Hung herself in the shed, Wayne Madsen.

02:52:32.000 Well, yeah, I've seen it many times before, these types of reports.

02:52:37.000 We had Ted Westhoosing, an Army colonel who was investigating fraud amongst contractors in Baghdad.

02:52:46.000 He supposedly shot himself. - Yeah.

02:52:49.000 You know, we've got all these incidents and none of them really passed any smell tests, and I've written about a lot of them.

02:52:58.000 And I think the hallmark of the Bush administration is, under George Bush and Big The United States became Argentina during the dirty wars where people were disappeared.

02:53:12.000 Wayne Madsen, Report.com.

02:53:14.000 I want to get you back up on the show tomorrow.

02:53:16.000 I have a producer call.

02:53:16.000 You've got to stay here for 20-30 minutes as you have more time to collate and talk to people.

02:53:20.000 But anything else your sources told you?

02:53:22.000 Anything else Debra Jean Palfrey, clearly murdered, told you?

02:53:26.000 Anything else that we should look for?

02:53:28.000 I mean, they killed Britain, they killed her, I mean, do you think they're going to kill more people if they do find you dead?

02:53:34.000 Or five gunshots? 0.95

02:53:35.000 I know you laugh, but I mean, it'd kill me too.

02:53:37.000 I mean, you're really in trouble, buddy.

02:53:38.000 I mean, if they kill you, I mean, do you want to just make it very clear you're not going to kill yourself?

02:53:44.000 Absolutely.

02:53:45.000 And furthermore, in Washington, we had a state of people jumping off of buildings here.

02:53:50.000 John Kuckel, State Department Iraqi analyst, and Gus Weiss, a retired CIA Officer, I'll make a play right now that I'm very afraid of heights.

02:54:01.000 So that won't be the way.

02:54:02.000 No, I'm not.

02:54:04.000 If anyone hears about it, that's absolutely not the case.

02:54:07.000 I will say that I had sources in addition to Jean, but they verified everything that she was trying to say about the high-level nature of these clients of her escort service.

02:54:20.000 And in one case, I found out that Dick Cheney did get a job for one of the escorts at the political job at the Agriculture Department.

02:54:31.000 So Cheney's fingerprints are all over this case.

02:54:34.000 And I guess that's a little jelly he really liked.

02:54:38.000 Yeah, well he must have.

02:54:40.000 And if this isn't a suicide, if it eventually goes from suicide to homicide, I would suggest to the police investigators the first person they need to go interview is Mr. Cheney.

02:54:52.000 Oh yeah, I'm sure they'll interview him.

02:54:54.000 He just killed a million Iraqis. 0.99

02:54:56.000 That's the thing, folks. 0.99

02:54:57.000 You laugh at Iraqis and say they're not human.

02:54:59.000 They're doing this to us here. 0.99

02:55:01.000 And it's just so painful to see this happen, to have talked to her, to have seen this happen, and to have them kill her in the shed.

02:55:10.000 This is just so classic.

02:55:13.000 It doesn't matter if you say, I'm not going to kill myself, I'm not going to. 0.70

02:55:17.000 I mean, I remember some of the Arkansas that were so ridiculous, in and around all the CIA drug dealing there, and it's just, it has to end someday, it has to stop. 0.97

02:55:26.000 Do you think these crazies are still going to attack Iran? 0.86

02:55:28.000 More and more people say they're not going to now, Wayne.

02:55:31.000 I'll tell you, there's a window, and it's between now and when the monsoon rains start.

02:55:37.000 If they wait until after the monsoon rains start, and the way the prevailing winds are in that part of Asia, they come down out of out of Siberia, the steppes of Asia, they come down there counterclockwise, they dip down into the Indian Ocean, pick up the moisture, and if they're picking up radiation from Iran as a result of a U.S. hit after those rains, then all that radioactive rain falls on India and then all that radioactive rain falls on India and Southeast Asia and China.

02:56:07.000 But it's a new ballgame.

02:56:08.000 They'll just probably do whatever, they'll probably fly around with prostitutes on nooses hanging from helicopters, dressed up in devil outfits. 1.00

02:56:16.000 I mean, who knows these people now? 0.56

02:56:19.000 They'll just say it's of the Lord.

02:56:25.000 Right, a rice crop that's already in... We have a food crisis now, but if Asia's rice crop is irradiated as a result of radioactive rainfall, I think China will hit the U.S.

02:56:36.000 7th fleet.

02:56:37.000 Then I think that every war game that Colonel Sam Gardner ran when he was with the National War College and Naval War College will come to pass.

02:56:47.000 What really happened?

02:56:49.000 Tell us what will come to pass.

02:56:50.000 This is important.

02:56:53.000 He said it was a bad idea to hit Iran.

02:56:55.000 Is that why they drove Fallon out?

02:56:57.000 Oh yeah, that's why they drove Fallon out and an accused Vice Admiral John Stufflebeam, who had just Uh, left as commander of the 6th fleet.

02:57:05.000 He was chief of the naval staff.

02:57:07.000 They accused him of having an affair 18 years ago, when he was an aide to then-president George H.W.

02:57:12.000 Bush.

02:57:13.000 He was the guy that carried the football, the nuclear code.

02:57:16.000 And they brought up an 18-year-old case, and they fired him and took one of his stars away.

02:57:21.000 Because he and Fallon were... Yeah, go ahead.

02:57:24.000 Yeah, he and Fallon both were opposed to any hit on Iran.

02:57:28.000 Now they got Petraeus in there in charge of CENTCOM.

02:57:31.000 What type of person is Petraeus?

02:57:32.000 He looks like the boyfriend of George Bush type.

02:57:35.000 Yeah, yeah, well, a lot of our troops in Iraq call him General Betraeus, not Petraeus.

02:57:43.000 So, I guess Betraeus will do whatever he's told.

02:57:45.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:57:47.000 He's a lick spittle, and as my friend George Galloway, the British MP, says, he has a great term, he's a poppin' J, because he'll do anything, as you say, anything he's told. 0.99

02:57:58.000 And what do the war game shows going to happen if they cause World War III in the foremost strike there? 0.88

02:58:05.000 Retaliation from China against the U.S.

02:58:07.000 7th Fleet.

02:58:09.000 Retaliation by Russia.

02:58:10.000 We're talking global thermonuclear warfare. 0.89

02:58:14.000 Which is, I guess, what psychopaths want, son.

02:58:17.000 Which is the end of it all.

02:58:20.000 But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?

02:58:23.000 And meanwhile, you have put out the information that sources told you that it was Dick Cheney, and you're living in D.C.

02:58:31.000 where they have the largest concentration of their hitmen.

02:58:34.000 And again, you are not going to commit suicide.

02:58:37.000 You're happy.

02:58:38.000 You're not depressed.

02:58:39.000 You're doing well.

02:58:40.000 I am.

02:58:42.000 You're doing a great job, Wayne Madsen.

02:58:44.000 WayneMadsenReport.com.

02:58:45.000 Folks definitely need to support you, and we appreciate you coming on the air.

02:58:50.000 Anything else you need to add?

02:58:51.000 No, just my condolences.

02:58:53.000 I go out to Jeanne's mom, Blanche Palfrey.

02:58:57.000 She must be having just a terrible time of it down there.

02:59:03.000 Like I say, with a Fox News helicopter flying overhead and she has to deal with the tragic death of her 52-year-old daughter. 1.00

02:59:11.000 Well, they say it was a garage parking shed for cars and stuff, and I'm sure she got out of her car, they zapped her, hung her, and it won't even matter what the coroner says if they do say, just like CIA guys publicly shoot Robert Kennedy, And then it comes out later, the film footage of all the three CIA guys there, and they killed him.

02:59:33.000 And just like the coroner said, it just won't matter. 0.96

02:59:35.000 They'll just say, shut up. 0.97

02:59:36.000 I bet if you talked to neighbors, I bet it was sloppy. 0.99

02:59:38.000 I bet they saw somebody go in the shed. 0.98

02:59:40.000 But if they say anything, they'll just commit suicide.

02:59:45.000 Well, you can imagine the people who live in that area.

02:59:47.000 These are elderly, retired folks, not on big incomes.

02:59:52.000 I think Gene's mother was living off of Social Security, so obviously these people are going to be easily intimidated, the neighbors.

03:00:00.000 Well, I really appreciate you talking with us, Wayne, and I'm going to have my producer call you, like I said, to get you to pop in at the start of the show tomorrow at 12 noon Eastern, and for 10 or 15 minutes if you can, just so we can... Okay.

03:00:11.000 Thank you.

03:00:12.000 Okay, good to be with you, Alex.

03:00:14.000 Thank you, Wayne Madsen.

03:00:14.000 WayneMadsenReport.com.

03:00:16.000 Now we're 34 minutes into Overdrive here today.

03:00:19.000 I'm going to spend just a few more minutes and then end this transmission.

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03:00:50.000 I want to read you an IM from Paul Watson.

03:00:53.000 In fact, we'll just put this up on screen for people so they can see that.

03:01:01.000 And then I'm going to read a little passage from A Tree Grows in Brooklyn.

03:01:04.000 It's actually a news article she wrote.

03:01:06.000 It's in the back in the appendix.

03:01:09.000 But there is my IM there. 0.73

03:01:12.000 Paul Watson said, Today is May Day, Beltane Day, Sex and Blood Sacrifice. 0.95

03:01:20.000 I knew it!

03:01:20.000 There would be a blood sacrifice leading to another violent event in this FEMA War Games from Seattle to the East Coast is it?

03:01:27.000 Debra, they're doing one in Austin, a martial law takeover drill right here in Austin right now.

03:01:32.000 We just sent Carews out there. 1.00

03:01:34.000 Debra Palvery is the blood sacrifice, the sex and the blood sacrifice. 1.00

03:01:38.000 This is also the birthday of the Illuminati.

03:01:40.000 Comment from the reader.

03:01:43.000 Yeah, Paul's right, the reader's right.

03:01:44.000 1776, May 1st.

03:01:47.000 This is admitted.

03:01:48.000 This is in your encyclopedia, not our opinion.

03:01:51.000 A lot of stuff you don't know about, folks.

03:01:52.000 It's real.

03:01:53.000 This is when they do the most human sacrifices.

03:01:57.000 The other high holiday is Samhain in English.

03:02:03.000 And this is when the second largest amount of child kidnappings happened then.

03:02:08.000 And there's newspaper articles, scores of them, where they find babies with their hearts chopped out.

03:02:12.000 But it's always kept quiet because, you know, well that's satanic, that scares the public, and plus that doesn't exist.

03:02:17.000 So they just close the babies up and that's the end of it.

03:02:19.000 And they've been tortured all over their body first for hours.

03:02:23.000 They start with smaller and smaller jabs with ice picks, and they suck blood out, the baby screams and cries, they believe it's terror gives them power, and then they finally rip its guts out and cut the poor thing's heart out.

03:02:34.000 But in the last week, you'll notice you saw a lot of kidnapping news.

03:02:37.000 See, that's the kids they kidnapped for today, and they'll be murdering them all night long. 0.99

03:02:44.000 Your cops are involved, your judges, your CPS workers, your politicians, they'll be murdering children all day today.

03:02:51.000 Nice people!

03:02:52.000 Hand your guns in!

03:02:53.000 All you liberals say, why are you a gun nut?

03:02:54.000 I'm not a gun nut.

03:02:55.000 I realize when they get our guns, they're going to have a red style terror hair, with their red pennant, and have their way with us.

03:03:02.000 I'm just not going along with it.

03:03:06.000 Beltane is their holy day.

03:03:07.000 It's also the International Communist Day.

03:03:09.000 When you go to google.com, they've got the symbol up there for May 1st.

03:03:15.000 The politicians are celebrating it.

03:03:17.000 It's a big Earth Gaia Day. 1.00

03:03:19.000 A lot of useful idiots are part of it. 1.00

03:03:21.000 But this is the highest holy day for them. 1.00

03:03:27.000 But I'm sure it's all just a coincidence.

03:03:31.000 Just a coincidence today on May 1st, 1776, the modern birth of the Illuminati, because it had groups before it.

03:03:39.000 Okay, I think now I will say something positive.

03:03:42.000 I haven't read this.

03:03:44.000 It's one of my wife's books, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, but I have a tendency to read about a book before I decide if I want to read it.

03:03:54.000 So I was reading about the author the other day, and just scanning, as you know.

03:03:58.000 My wife reads a book about every two days. 0.81

03:04:02.000 I wouldn't say she's an insomniac, but she sleeps about five hours a night.

03:04:05.000 She just reads until late every night.

03:04:06.000 I don't know why I'm getting off into that.

03:04:08.000 The point is that there's books all over the house, and I don't read many of her books.

03:04:13.000 Well, I'm reading The Last of the Mohegans again. 0.99

03:04:15.000 That's good.

03:04:18.000 I kind of call it reality-based fiction.

03:04:21.000 But, Tree Girls in Brooklyn, I was just reading about this lady, Betty Smith, growing up in Brooklyn, and about how it was really about her life, just put into a novel form.

03:04:29.000 And she was a newspaper writer for the New York Times and other publications.

03:04:34.000 And I was reading just a short little blurb she did for this week's news magazine, this week's magazine, Fall in Love with Life, a piece by Betty Smith.

03:04:48.000 There's that for you right there.

03:04:50.000 And this is really my philosophy.

03:04:53.000 This is my philosophy.

03:04:56.000 This is why I don't want them to kill me next week or next month, though I know I'm really upsetting them right now.

03:05:02.000 But it's why I'm just committed and don't care.

03:05:05.000 Because I want to try to live, I'll defend myself if they try to kill me, but I'm going to do what I'm going to do, just like Wayne Madsen was just saying. 0.99

03:05:15.000 Again, they'll kill a million Iraqis, folks. 1.00

03:05:17.000 They just shoot kids. 1.00

03:05:18.000 They sit off the side of the road in front of newspaper reporters, and there'll be a woman walking with her three-year-old, and they'll just blow her head off with a .50 cal from a half mile away and laugh. 0.59

03:05:25.000 Or they'll have families driving, getting in their cars, and the troops just shoot them and watch them fall down dead and laugh, and, you know, they shoot dogs and throw puppies off cliffs.

03:05:32.000 They're all coming back to be cops, and why don't they be recruited in, and they'll end up being your killer when they're taking your property and everything you got?

03:05:41.000 And I'm sorry, but that's Who we're dealing with, that's who we're facing, and that's what happens when we become an evil society and we stop caring.

03:05:49.000 You can't just go through life like it's a carnival and only care about yourself and not know about politics or not fight corruption.

03:05:55.000 When you do that, it grows and breathes like a cancer and then takes over.

03:05:59.000 And then there's giant death camps and guillotines and people running around in black uniforms. 0.53

03:06:03.000 I mean, in burning cities.

03:06:04.000 It's what they do!

03:06:05.000 They screw stuff up!

03:06:07.000 They want power, normal people don't, so they always take over.

03:06:10.000 Until we have to fight back to survive.

03:06:13.000 And we've now reached that point.

03:06:16.000 So I'm going to go ahead and read this and then wrap up this transmission.

03:06:19.000 I'd love to continue, but I've got a lot of work I've got to do.

03:06:21.000 See, I love my work.

03:06:22.000 I love fighting in the World War.

03:06:25.000 Not like a lot of these other talk show hosts that think this is a game or a grandstanding.

03:06:29.000 This is real, folks.

03:06:30.000 This isn't a game.

03:06:31.000 This takes full commitment.

03:06:32.000 Fall in love with life.

03:06:35.000 A piece by Betty Smith.

03:06:37.000 You know, most people would kill to be able to go to Patriot meetings and strut around and be admired and looked at.

03:06:42.000 You'll never see me at these little shindigs and functions.

03:06:45.000 And that's because, again, I'm just trying to get people's heads screwed on straight out there.

03:06:48.000 This is life and death.

03:06:49.000 This is warfare.

03:06:50.000 This is everything on the line.

03:06:52.000 I mean, they are putting cancer in your vaccines.

03:06:53.000 They are injecting you.

03:06:55.000 They are spraying you. 0.99

03:06:56.000 They're murdering you.

03:06:57.000 Do you understand?

03:06:58.000 You understand that out there?

03:07:00.000 I mean, let that hit you.

03:07:03.000 Let that get to you.

03:07:04.000 Let that burn in out there and soak in real good.

03:07:10.000 This is real.

03:07:12.000 When they tasered her and then hung her, that was real, folks.

03:07:16.000 And the cops, when they cover it up, that's real.

03:07:20.000 When they tortured this Palestinian here in Austin to death and threw him in the river and called it a suicide, that's real. 0.99

03:07:30.000 The New World Order is real.

03:07:31.000 They're coming for you.

03:07:32.000 What are you going to do about it?

03:07:34.000 Those of you that serve, it's evil.

03:07:36.000 You're being attacked by them.

03:07:39.000 You like that?

03:07:41.000 Fall in love with life, a piece by Betty Smith.

03:07:46.000 As a listening child, I often heard older people say, oh, the plans I'd made, and what dreams I had, and the inevitable, if only I had my life to live over.

03:08:00.000 I reason that these men and women had missed the fullness of life somehow.

03:08:05.000 But I wasn't going to miss it.

03:08:06.000 I decided at the age of 14, I planned, in a slightly used copy of a book, I made a full list of what I wanted for my life.

03:08:16.000 I vowed to attain those things one by one.

03:08:19.000 The plan never worked out.

03:08:20.000 Most of my adult life I had to work to support myself and others.

03:08:24.000 A lot of the fullness of life was expended in the competitive business world.

03:08:29.000 But I was young and optimistic.

03:08:31.000 This is only for the time being, I said.

03:08:34.000 Someday it will all come out the way I want it to.

03:08:39.000 But the years went by, and then I was middle-aged and alone.

03:08:43.000 My children had left to make their own full life somewhere.

03:08:47.000 I, too, began to think, if only I had my life to live over again.

03:08:52.000 You know, men think like this, too, but especially women.

03:08:54.000 I really learned how women tick, and this is the main female drive. 1.00

03:08:59.000 If only I had had my life to live over again.

03:09:02.000 One rainy night, I went down to the drugstore to get a paperback to read myself to sleep on.

03:09:08.000 I picked up a Emily Zola book and stood there holding it, wanting to remember something I had read long ago.

03:09:16.000 When it came to me, Zola had said, in what I'd read long ago, to have a child, to plant a tree, to write a book, that, he said, was a full life.

03:09:32.000 A great stillness grew about me as I realized I'd had a child, I'd planted a tree, in fact, I'd even written a book.

03:09:42.000 Though when Zola said book, I'm sure he meant it is a symbol for any constructive job honestly done.

03:09:49.000 And so, according to the tenets of a great man, I had had a full life.

03:09:53.000 My children had given me a quiet, never-ending ecstasy.

03:09:58.000 Oh, I know exactly what that means.

03:10:00.000 My children had given me a quiet, never-ending ecstasy all the years of their growing up.

03:10:08.000 A little thrown-away sapling I'd planted 25 years ago is now a tree above my house, and I've enjoyed its shade.

03:10:17.000 My children, and later their children, played under it, and, God willing, there will be great-grandchildren playing under it, too.

03:10:24.000 And I was even able to make a book out of all my hopes and fears and dreams.

03:10:32.000 No one of these things had been set down in the notebook because they were part of me.

03:10:38.000 Things I took for granted.

03:10:41.000 For instance, when I was first aware that I would be a woman, I knew I'd have children.

03:10:48.000 When I wept childishly tears as they cut down the only tree, our tenement yard, I knew I would plant a tree everywhere I lived.

03:10:59.000 And when at the age of eight, I got my first A on a school composition, I knew I would write a book someday.

03:11:07.000 I came to a clear conclusion, and it is a universal one.

03:11:11.000 To live, to struggle, to be in love with life, in love with all life holds, joyful or sorrowful, is fulfillment.

03:11:21.000 The fullness of life is open to all of us.

03:11:25.000 Fall in love with life, a piece by Betty Smith.

03:11:27.000 And that's it.

03:11:28.000 Madison Avenue seeks to steal that understanding from you.

03:11:33.000 You are fulfilled by being honorable, by being strong, by struggling, by helping others, and by having courage. 0.84

03:11:40.000 You are unfulfilled when you're cowardly and don't commit to life, and when you always feel inadequate and feel pathetic because you don't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, or you don't look like Angelina Jolie, or because you don't live in a mansion.

03:11:53.000 Not that those things are bad enough themselves, but if that's your penultimate goal, you've got a major problem. 0.97

03:11:58.000 That's it for this transmission.

03:12:00.000 We will go back to the regular transmission, an amazing four-hour regular show.

03:12:04.000 We've done four hours and forty-six minutes today from retransmission today at InfoWars.com on the streams.

03:12:12.000 And I'll see you back on the AM and FM dial, Global Shortwave Satellite tomorrow, 11 a.m.

03:12:16.000 to 3 p.m.

03:12:17.000 Big guest tomorrow, huge broadcast on Friday.

03:12:19.000 Pray for us all.

03:12:20.000 Get my books and videos.

03:12:21.000 Get them out to everybody.

03:12:22.000 Because I want my work and the truth I put forward to have an effect.

03:12:26.000 I want to beat the New World Order.

03:12:27.000 And I know that only you are holding that back.

03:12:30.000 You decide to commit.

03:12:31.000 You decide to take action.

03:12:32.000 You set your mind and soul to it.

03:12:34.000 They will fall.

03:12:35.000 Will evil be defeated forever?

03:12:37.000 No.

03:12:37.000 But this great evil will be brought down and then we can start back over and defend liberty.

Alex Jones Show - May 01, 2008

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