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00:00:28.000 All right, folks, we're back.

00:00:30.000 It's the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show.

00:00:32.000 I'm Jason Burmas, sitting in today and tomorrow.

00:00:35.000 I just want to remind everybody that Alex is going to be presenting a sneak peek!

00:00:40.000 At the 9-11 Chronicles, Part 1, Truth Rising again.

00:00:44.000 This is a film shot unlike any other from Alex Jones.

00:00:47.000 Cinema Verite style, where he doesn't even do the voiceover.

00:00:50.000 And it's really about the 9-11 truth movement.

00:00:52.000 It contains candid interviews with Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, and others.

00:01:01.000 As well as confrontations with many political figures, including Bill and Hill Clinton, David Rockefeller, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gary Hart, John McCain, And many more.

00:01:12.000 So I hope people go out on Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.

00:01:16.000 and Sunday, May 18th at 7 p.m.

00:01:19.000 and go check that out.

00:01:20.000 I think Alex himself will also be there to answer questions after the movie.

00:01:25.000 Like I said, I've seen it.

00:01:26.000 It's awesome.

00:01:27.000 I'm very stoked for this one to get out there and hopefully get more people involved in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

00:01:32.000 This is a yes-we-can-do-it type of movie, really focusing on what tactics we need to use to expose this information to the masses and uh... it's it's a bang-up job i'm really excited to see people's reaction i've got jim mars with me i've done a couple of radio shows with jim jim i think i've been on his uh... dreamland program before and i've met him a couple times out in chicago and of course new york city he is a famous accomplished author you can see him on the history channel all the time i see jim mars

00:02:02.000 on the History Channel more than anybody, I think.

00:02:04.000 And I believe his latest book is The Terror Conspiracy, dealing with 9-11.

00:02:08.000 It's Deception, 9-11, and the Loss of Liberty.

00:02:10.000 And you can pick that up over at Infowars.com.

00:02:14.000 Jim, thanks for joining me.

00:02:15.000 Hey, Jason.

00:02:17.000 It's good to be with you today.

00:02:18.000 So, Jim, what's the latest you've been working on?

00:02:22.000 Because, again, you've been featured on the History Channel dozens of times.

00:02:25.000 You were featured in a couple of Alex Jones' movies.

00:02:28.000 You're an accomplished author.

00:02:30.000 Obviously, the Terror Conspiracy about 9-11.

00:02:33.000 You wrote Crossfire about JFK.

00:02:35.000 What's next for Jim Mars?

00:02:37.000 Well, I've got a bombshell coming out in June.

00:02:40.000 I think everybody realizes that the good old U.S.

00:02:44.000 of A. is in deep trouble.

00:02:46.000 We've got too many problems, too much stuff going on.

00:02:49.000 But nobody can seem to figure out exactly who to point the finger to.

00:02:54.000 Liberals blame conservatives, conservatives blame liberals, Republicans blame Democrats, vice versa.

00:03:00.000 And I have a new book coming out that's going to show that a small cabal of people have been operating through the last century and right up to today to absolutely change the face of the United States.

00:03:14.000 And I'm not totally at liberty to get into all the details, but the title of the new book It's the rise of the Fourth Reich.

00:03:24.000 I think it's a pretty good idea.

00:03:24.000 Excellent.

00:03:26.000 Well, you know, that's one of the things a lot of people in the general populace just don't understand, is that the Bush family really made its fortune, you know, not in the weapons and oil industry, although that's definitely where they made some of their money, but that was after they were Nazi money launderers for Union Banking Corp.

00:03:45.000 and Averell Harriman Brothers Banking back in the Prescott Bush days.

00:03:50.000 That's exactly right, and if you go back even farther than that, you'll find it was the Harriman family, and the Schiff family, and the Rockefellers, and many other members of Wall Street who actually funded and hence created communism in Russia.

00:04:06.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:04:07.000 That's what people don't get is that it's not about right and left.

00:04:10.000 It's not about conservative or liberal.

00:04:13.000 These are false paradigms that are paraded through our mass media in order to indoctrinate and brainwash us into taking a side so that we can't see past these paradigms, and we do a lot of infighting.

00:04:28.000 It's just like when I was talking to Paul Joseph Watson earlier, I talked about how they like to divide us by race. 1.00

00:04:33.000 This is just another tool.

00:04:34.000 If they can't divide us by hating another race, they're going to have us hate another political group.

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00:04:41.000 I'm sorry, Jim.

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00:08:15.000 Alright, we are back live on the Alex Jones Show with Jim Mars, and we're talking about some of the methods that the elite use to divide us, and we just discussed You know, politics as one of them, race as another, and I think the other big one is obviously religion.

00:08:32.000 And if they can use these three things to pit us against each other, there's just going to be all this infighting, Jim, and we're never really going to be able to accomplish any goals towards making it better.

00:08:44.000 It's the oldest tactic in the book, divide and conquer.

00:08:49.000 It's it's order out of chaos and it's it's their mantra and they've been they've been able to do this really really well uh... since the invention of the media you know in the in the fifties since everybody started getting glued to their television sets and they're able to control the programming So that, let's say your flavor of news is CNN, you're watching CNN, and you're thinking, wow, you know, these guys are really good.

00:09:12.000 Now that's the quote-unquote liberal democratic end.

00:09:15.000 And then you have these other people that subscribe to Fox News as their one and only.

00:09:19.000 And these are like the hardcore conservative people.

00:09:22.000 Little do they know they're both being deceived because the things that they're presenting aren't of a liberal or conservative agenda, it's really of a globalist agenda, Jim.

00:09:31.000 Absolutely.

00:09:33.000 Absolutely.

00:09:33.000 And we see the same tactic, divide and conquer, being used against various research communities, whether it's the JFK assassination, UFO research community, or the 9-11 research community.

00:09:46.000 All of a sudden, everybody's on board.

00:09:48.000 There's questions here, folks.

00:09:49.000 There's legitimate Puzzles and controversies, contradictions, inadequacies that need to be addressed, but the next thing you know, everybody's fighting with each other over their pet theories, or you got disinformation people in there throwing curveballs, and everybody gets to fight with each other, and they get so disjointed that nothing meaningful can actually get accomplished.

00:10:13.000 Well, that's classic COINTELPRO, and a lot of that's been declassified.

00:10:17.000 By the book.

00:10:17.000 Yes, by the book.

00:10:19.000 What they do is they put these people forward as somebody with legitimate questions and interests, and they have sort of a name.

00:10:26.000 They're either a professor or they're a former member of the Bush administration or something like that.

00:10:32.000 They toe the line of regular questions.

00:10:36.000 actual information, and then as soon as they've been established, all of a sudden they're talking about no planes and space beams.

00:10:42.000 Somebody jumped in with that, and then the thoughtful people are going, well, that sounds kind of ridiculous, and then pretty soon the whole thing just falls into disorder.

00:10:53.000 Absolutely, and I don't think they've been as successful as they'd like to be in dividing the 9-11 truth movement, especially with this no plane nonsense.

00:11:02.000 Every time I see one of these no-plain videos, it's the same old people parroting it, and it's the same people at the top.

00:11:08.000 It's not really able to infiltrate the actual mainline 9-11 truthers out there, but then the quote-unquote debunkers like to focus on that as if that's the only theory out there.

00:11:21.000 Absolutely.

00:11:23.000 And one reason for that is because with the events of 9-11.

00:11:28.000 There's just too much solid information out there.

00:11:32.000 Unlike the JFK assassination, where he's riding through a plaza, shots are fired.

00:11:36.000 Nobody truly saw who fired the shots.

00:11:39.000 People were conflicted as to where they came from.

00:11:41.000 That really kind of started off as a big puzzle, and that was easy to keep rolling as a controversy for years.

00:11:49.000 But in 9-11, you can just bring it down to simple things.

00:11:52.000 How did two planes drop three buildings?

00:11:56.000 Uh, if we have to worry about a terrorist attack in our country, how come to this very day nothing substantial has been done to secure our borders?

00:12:05.000 Uh, why were they running war game exercises, initially just denied it, and then finally said, well yeah, we run all these war game exercises, including one scenario of hijacked planes crashing into the World Trade Center.

00:12:18.000 I mean, these are all facts, and once people become aware of these facts, then it's pretty hard to break that up.

00:12:24.000 Absolutely.

00:12:24.000 One of the things I like to really focus on now on the war games is the exercise Global Guardian, which was in full swing before 9-11, but interjected with Northern Vigilance, Vigilance Guardian, Apollo Guardian, all these other drills that were going on that time.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:12:39.000 Well, Tripod was down in New York City.

00:12:41.000 It was the bio-terror attack. 0.78

00:12:43.000 Then, you know, they're running drills at the NRO with a team from the CIA of ramming a plane into the building at 8.45 in the morning.

00:12:50.000 But the interesting thing about Global Guardian is that they actually had shadow government command centers in the air, or E4B doomsday planes, in five different locations.

00:13:01.000 And one of the locations where they were actually caught on video was on the scene of the Pentagon strike.

00:13:07.000 Exactly.

00:13:08.000 Now, the government denies that this is an E-4B, but it's on multiple cameras, and CNN, I believe a little over a year ago, actually had to do a report on Anderson Cooper that it was indeed an E-4B doomsday plane.

00:13:19.000 Now, what's really... You can tell by the configuration, and you can tell by the American flag on the tail, it's an E-4B.

00:13:26.000 It's absolutely an E-4B, and it's unrestricted.

00:13:28.000 And the E-4B, the Flying Command Center, is the very type of craft which can capture electronically other computer-driven airplanes and guide them via Global Hawk remote-controlled technology.

00:13:41.000 That is correct.

00:13:42.000 And a lot of people don't realize this, but there is a second white plane.

00:13:46.000 Now I'm not sure that this is an E-4B.

00:13:48.000 It does look a little different, and the videos are not as clear as the ones in DC.

00:13:52.000 But there is another white airplane in restricted airspace in New York City.

00:13:57.000 It was caught.

00:13:57.000 It's in the Camera Planet Archive.

00:13:59.000 Just type in Second white plane, camera planet, and you can watch it.

00:14:03.000 It was on the scene of the World Trade Center attack after the first plane struck, before the second plane struck, and then if you watch a couple of the videos with a wider view of the attack, the side attack of the second plane going in, you can see this white plane again on the scene of the World Trade Center attack.

00:14:20.000 So it's there before the second plane hits the building, and it's there as the second plane hits the building.

00:14:25.000 What's going on here, Jim?

00:14:27.000 Well, Jason, let me preface this by saying I'm not claiming this is hard evidence, OK?

00:14:34.000 But about a year ago, I was visiting with one of the best of the Army's remote viewers, OK?

00:14:41.000 He was one of the original members and one of the best they had.

00:14:45.000 And he just offhand said, would you want me to do a remote viewing session for you?

00:14:49.000 And I said, yeah, I'll do that.

00:14:50.000 So, of course, without him knowing what the target was, my question was, Who controlled the airplanes that crashed in the World Trade Center?

00:15:02.000 And, of course, he didn't know this.

00:15:04.000 He got a number.

00:15:07.000 That was all he got.

00:15:08.000 But that represented my question.

00:15:11.000 And the result I got was they were controlled from another aircraft.

00:15:16.000 Well, it would certainly fit the bill.

00:15:19.000 If you look at the Amalgam Virgo documents, which is the drill they ran on June 1st and 2nd prior to the attacks in 2001, where they ran a commercial airliner into the Capitol building, it shows you how these drones work, and how there's a drone commander, there's always a drone picture, There's always satellite imagery of what's going on.

00:15:38.000 They have AWACS in the air.

00:15:40.000 I mean, just this whole map out, I think it's like a 27-page document, and like four or five are just based on the control centers and the command procedures of these drone aircraft, and it just looks too similar to what happened on 9-11 to be a coincidence.

00:15:54.000 Exactly, and of course, if any of the listeners, if you want to see how this could be accomplished, and if you want to see absolute proof that, yes, contrary to what Condoleezza Rice and And Donald Rumsfeld and others said, they said, how could we have possibly even have guessed that they would have used aircraft to crash into buildings?

00:16:12.000 If you want to see the complete lie given to that and how it would operate, go find the March edition of The Lone Gunman, which was an extended series of the X-Files by Chris Carter that aired in March of 2001.

00:16:32.000 And the whole scenario and plot of this show was that people within the U.S.

00:16:38.000 government who wanted to jumpstart the defense contracts and the defense industry were going to capture a commercial airliner by Global Hawk remote control technology and crash it into the World Trade Center.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, absolutely, and that's just an example in the media of foreknowledge of 9-11.

00:16:59.000 If they said, well, who could have guessed?

00:17:00.000 Well, Chris Carter, who's a television writer, he could guess.

00:17:03.000 Are we supposed to believe that all these people within the Pentagon, the CIA and NRO and all the Alphabet agencies, They couldn't have guessed this.

00:17:11.000 In fact, Jason, as you well know, there wasn't any guesswork to it anyway, because back in the 90s, they had busted an Alcatraz cell in the Philippines and uncovered the plans for Bojinka, which specifically called for hijacking airplanes and crashing them into prominent structures, prominently naming the World Trade Center.

00:17:29.000 Absolutely.

00:17:29.000 Well, the media tries to spin it and say, oh, they were going to capture all these multiple airliners and blow them up in the air.

00:17:35.000 Oh yeah, and by the way, they were going to ram one into the CIA base.

00:17:38.000 Now, by the way, you know, it's just like Marvin Citron gets up and he says, well, I wrote Terror 2000 back in 1994.

00:17:46.000 And we talked about a plane hitting the Capitol building or the Pentagon, and then Amalgam Virgo shows you a Northwestern airliner, its flight path into the Capitol building, and there is Osama bin Laden on the cover of that document, and Richard Eberhardt Who went before the 9-11 Commission and denying that we had any any outward, everything was an outward threat before 9-11 supposedly.

00:18:09.000 There was no hijackings that were going to take place within the country.

00:18:12.000 Well, here's one of them.

00:18:13.000 His face is in the document and he was actually pressed on this by Richard Benveniste.

00:18:18.000 And he's like, well that could be, I'll have to look into that.

00:18:21.000 And he's like, there's no that could be about it.

00:18:23.000 Your face is on the document.

00:18:24.000 But it's brushed under the rug.

00:18:27.000 Don't look at Amalgam Virgo, don't look at Terra 2000, don't look at the Mascow drills we were running, certainly don't look at the drills we were running that morning that are still somewhat classified.

00:18:38.000 Not all of them are out there, folks.

00:18:40.000 That's right, we still don't know all of them.

00:18:42.000 And by the way, if anybody out there listening is going, oh now wait a minute, people within our government wouldn't allow terrorist attacks on the United States.

00:18:51.000 Simply go back and look at the facts behind the 1993

00:18:55.000 bombing of the world trade center tower and you will find that according to court testimony an egypt former egyptian army officer was acting as an fbi informant had infiltrated and was among the terrorists that were planning that bombing he thought this was terribly told his fbi handlers he said i think i can slip in fake explosives for the real explosives and his the fbi said no no don't do that so in other words the fbi was behind the nineteen ninety three

00:19:24.000 bombing which uh... calls more than a million dollars with the damage kills five or six people and and uh... you know uh... cause the whole evacuation of the tower and And one of the really interesting things about that is you're talking about a guy named Ahmed Salam.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:38.000 And he's this Egyptian army officer and he's like, well let's use fake explosives. 0.77

00:19:41.000 Oh no, no, you have to build a real bomb.

00:19:43.000 That's when he got suspicious and he started taping his conversations with the FBI so that when he was picked up he said, no, I'm an FBI informant.

00:19:51.000 Instead of going to prison for this, he ended up getting a million dollars in testimony against the other guys.

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00:25:14.000 Now, we know the FBI is involved in the 93 bombing, but wait, there's more.

00:25:20.000 We know that a FBI informant, a tested FBI informant by the way, who had his own little handler in the whole deal, He rented and lived with two of the hijackers, Nawaf al-Zahami and Saeed al-Ghamdi.

00:25:34.000 Now what's interesting is that those two guys were also flagged in AbleDanger.

00:25:39.000 And not only did the guys at AbleDanger, a black ops program by the way, go to CENTCOM, but they tried to get meetings with the FBI over a dozen times.

00:25:48.000 And of course the FBI ignored them every time because these were their boys.

00:25:52.000 They were well aware of these guys.

00:25:54.000 They knew.

00:25:55.000 Exactly.

00:25:55.000 Then you look at Saeed al-Ghamdi, and he has ties to the Defense Language School in Monterey, California, among other military bases.

00:26:02.000 So it seems like some people in the agency are in the know.

00:26:05.000 Other people, the majority of people, are not in the know, Jim.

00:26:09.000 And that's why they're able to achieve this level of compartmentalization.

00:26:14.000 Exactly.

00:26:17.000 In fact, there's the tracks of intelligence, the Mossad, all through the whole 9-11 thing.

00:26:27.000 And then, even more fundamentally, when you go back and actually learn your history and start putting it together, you find out that Al-Qaeda was simply a name change, name change from the old Muslim Brotherhood, which was created and infiltrated and used by the Nazis during World War II, and then passed along to the old SS, who then became the CIA, and when Uh, they got tossed out of Egypt because they were too violent.

00:26:56.000 They moved to Saudi Arabia, and it was there where they trained young Saudis, including a young Osama bin Laden.

00:27:05.000 And then in the 80s, when we wanted someone to go in and fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, sent the Muslim Brotherhood in there, but they couldn't use that name because of all the baggage in their background, so they changed it to the Muhyiddin, which then evolved into al-Qaeda. 0.57

00:27:23.000 And by the way, al-Qaeda literally means the base.

00:27:28.000 And for a long time, I and many others thought, well, that means their headquarters somewhere.

00:27:33.000 But no, according to information that was presented to the House of Commons over in Britain, the base refers to the CIA computer base of Arab mercenaries and assets that they can call upon to do their will.

00:27:51.000 Absolutely, and that ties right in with J. Michael Springman, who is also in my new film, Fabled Enemies, that I'm working on, that he was in the consulate in Jeddah in the late 80s, early 90s, and a lot of these guys were being funneled in through there.

00:28:06.000 He would deny them visas because they didn't seem to have any reason to go to the United States, and he would be overruled by his superiors, and they would say that we're giving them a visa for national security purposes.

00:28:16.000 He later talks to people within the CIA and they're like, oh yeah, That's our program with our asset, Osama Bin Laden, to funnel in Islamic militants into this country.

00:28:27.000 There you go, case closed.

00:28:29.000 You know, all of this actually was presented in my book, The Terror Conspiracy, which originally was to be published by HarperCollins back in 2002.

00:28:39.000 And if that information had gotten widespread, it might have saved us the morass of Iraq, but that book was just strangely cancelled for no particular reason, and I cannot view it in any other light other than just censorship.

00:28:57.000 And it's now taken a course, you know, now we're seven years out, and finally all this stuff is becoming more and more widely known.

00:29:06.000 Yeah, well, obviously censorship.

00:29:08.000 I mean, again, Jim, you're one of the few guys that has a face out there in this movement in the mainstream.

00:29:13.000 You're on TLC, the History Channel, a bunch, and you do have quite a fan base.

00:29:19.000 If this book had hit in 2002, I can't imagine where we'd be in 9-11 Truth.

00:29:24.000 We'd be a lot Further along, folks, because this is an important book, The Terror Conspiracy.

00:29:29.000 You can get it over at InfoWars.com.

00:29:30.000 We're going to be back with Jim Mars after this.

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00:30:11.000 All right, Jason.

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00:33:03.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:11.000 Alright folks, we are back.

00:33:13.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:14.000 I'm sitting in.

00:33:15.000 My name is Jason Burmess.

00:33:16.000 You can check out my flicks, Loose Change 2nd Edition and Loose Change Final Cut over at Google Video or you can go to my website loosechange911.com and I think there's links right there that you can see them all for free.

00:33:27.000 I just want to remind everybody that Alex Jones is having a couple sneak peek showings of the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truth Rising at least a month before the release.

00:33:37.000 It might even be a month and a half before you can actually order it online or see it on PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:33:41.000 It's going to be over at the Alamo Draft House on Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.

00:33:46.000 And on Sunday, May 18th at 7 p.m., we're talking with Jim Mars, an accomplished author of both Crossfire, the Terror Conspiracy, and many others, and a new one on the way.

00:33:59.000 I believe it's going to be called Rise of the Fourth Reich. 0.94

00:34:01.000 And we're going to take your calls.

00:34:03.000 Let's go to James in Ohio.

00:34:06.000 James, are you with me?

00:34:06.000 How are you guys doing?

00:34:09.000 Good, man.

00:34:10.000 How are you doing?

00:34:10.000 Not too bad.

00:34:12.000 Real quick, you guys were on the police state subject a lot today.

00:34:17.000 And I just want to give an example of what happened to me.

00:34:20.000 I was driving down the road with my brother, and I got hit in the side of the head with an egg.

00:34:26.000 So I'm like, what the heck?

00:34:27.000 So we turn around and figure we're going to go find these little kids that are just being, you know, rebellious or whatever.

00:34:34.000 We're walking down the street.

00:34:35.000 We park our car, walk down the street.

00:34:38.000 A cop pulls up.

00:34:39.000 The cop says, what are you guys out here throwing eggs?

00:34:42.000 I said, no, we got hit.

00:34:43.000 We're out here looking.

00:34:45.000 He says, where's your car?

00:34:46.000 It's over at the parking lot.

00:34:48.000 So he drives us over to the parking lot, and there happens to be another cop already at our car with a flashlight going through it.

00:34:55.000 He lets us out of the back of the cruiser, and he says, uh, you guys out here throwing eggs?

00:34:59.000 I said, no, I got hit with an egg.

00:35:02.000 He says, oh, well, what are you guys doing this and that?

00:35:05.000 So we're standing there.

00:35:08.000 I'm smoking a cigarette.

00:35:09.000 He says, put the cigarette out.

00:35:10.000 I said, well, isn't this a free country?

00:35:12.000 He says, oh, I'm tired of this.

00:35:14.000 Put your hands on the car.

00:35:15.000 He arrests me.

00:35:17.000 Takes me down to the station.

00:35:19.000 He writes me out a ticket.

00:35:20.000 Now, you know what he charged me with?

00:35:21.000 Let's hear it.

00:35:23.000 Causing alarm and annoyance to others.

00:35:25.000 You gotta love it.

00:35:26.000 In this country, you are now guilty until proven innocent.

00:35:29.000 They can literally arrest you for anything.

00:35:31.000 Go ahead.

00:35:31.000 So I went in front of the judge and I tried to, you know, I pleaded no contest because I thought there was no charge, no way that they could charge me with this.

00:35:39.000 This is the most ridiculous thing. 0.89

00:35:41.000 You know what the judge tells me? 0.98

00:35:43.000 Well, after 9-11, you've got to do what the cops tell you.

00:35:49.000 That's why 9-11 is so important. 1.00

00:35:53.000 It's the basis of everything.

00:35:55.000 If people understand that 9-11 is bogus, then everything else stemming from that is bogus.

00:36:04.000 Loose change, that's an excellent movie.

00:36:06.000 Everybody watch it if they can.

00:36:07.000 Jim Morris, thanks for all you do and keep it up.

00:36:10.000 Alright, thanks, James.

00:36:11.000 So what do you think?

00:36:12.000 We haven't really discussed too much about the police state today, Jim.

00:36:16.000 Did you see this news?

00:36:17.000 This bothers the hell out of me because, see, I started off in my journalism career as a police reporter in an office down at a police station.

00:36:25.000 And I was with them 24-7.

00:36:27.000 I mean, I knew all the dispatchers and the detectives and the homicide detectives and the crime scene search guys.

00:36:33.000 That was back in the days of the old republic.

00:36:36.000 I even actually just ran with the cops.

00:36:38.000 You know, I had a little trench coat and a little snappy brim hat.

00:36:40.000 and I'd walk right on into the murder scenes and stuff with them because I was just one guy, and all I had was a little notepad and a pencil.

00:36:47.000 All that changed during the time that I was working as a police reporter because pretty soon they came out with the miniature tape recorders, so the radio guys got in on it.

00:37:00.000 So all of a sudden there's three or four radio guys all with their tape recorders.

00:37:04.000 They want in.

00:37:04.000 And real quickly then, all of a sudden, here comes TV crews, and they're not just one guy.

00:37:10.000 You know, a cameraman, a light man, a sound man.

00:37:13.000 And pretty soon, you know, there's 20 people.

00:37:14.000 We can't allow 20 people to go tromping through a crime scene.

00:37:18.000 And you can't say, well, you electronic guys have to stay out.

00:37:21.000 The print reporter can come in.

00:37:23.000 You can't do that.

00:37:25.000 So all of a sudden, everybody had to stay out. 0.98

00:37:27.000 And now they've got that damn yellow tape they stretch all around. 0.97

00:37:31.000 They'll push you back 10, 12 blocks. 0.98

00:37:33.000 And all you can do is wait for the official word to come as to what happened in there.

00:37:39.000 Probably eight times out of ten, when they come out and tell you what happened, that's probably exactly what happened.

00:37:44.000 But if it's the slight bit political, or if the local mayor or the local police chief or sheriff or somebody might have some personal involvement in it, or if it's, quote, national security, how do we know that we're getting the truth about what happens inside that yellow tape?

00:38:00.000 And the ball-faced fact is, we don't.

00:38:03.000 And I just think it's terrible, because I have the highest regard for police officers.

00:38:07.000 I mean, they should be among the most highly paid people in this whole country.

00:38:12.000 But I've seen it shift from when I was a kid, the policeman who wore blue was your friend, and if you had a problem, go talk to a policeman.

00:38:22.000 And today, even my young daughters would say, uh-oh, look out, there's a cop.

00:38:26.000 And it's like, all of a sudden, like it's them and us.

00:38:29.000 And now they wear black, and now, as you said, and as Collar demonstrated, you're guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

00:38:36.000 Yeah, it's very much like China.

00:38:38.000 It's really nice.

00:38:39.000 Right.

00:38:41.000 Or Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, I mean, you know.

00:38:47.000 When you go back and realize that the same people created Communist Russia, also created Nazi Germany, and also have created the modern American national security state here in America, then you understand why that we're all looking like those same entities. 0.60

00:39:03.000 And that's why they get away with it.

00:39:04.000 I mean, I don't know if you've seen this Philly beating, but literally three guys get pulled out of the car, over a dozen police officers assault them, they never resist or anything, they're hit with batons, they're soccer kicked, the dogs are pulled on them, and the media reports, well, they're on edge, because two days ago there was a bank robbery and someone shot a cop, and they thought that these guys were involved.

00:39:25.000 No, they didn't!

00:39:26.000 You can tell right away they didn't think they were involved, because if they thought they were involved, they would have thought they were armed.

00:39:31.000 They would have created a perimeter around the car before bum-rushing it, and they would have made them get out of the car with their hands up and on the ground before anything happened.

00:39:39.000 That's not what happened.

00:39:40.000 They ran up to the car, they dragged them out, and they beat them.

00:39:43.000 And these guys are going to get off.

00:39:44.000 I mean, there might be a lawsuit that takes five or ten years, and these guys might see a little bit of money, but these people will be minimally disciplined.

00:39:52.000 Most of them will not be discharged, and they'll be just swept under the rug, Jim, and it really makes me upset.

00:39:58.000 Well, that's what happens in a police state.

00:40:00.000 Yeah, that is what happens in a police state.

00:40:01.000 Let's take another caller.

00:40:02.000 Let's go to Terry in Atlanta.

00:40:04.000 Terry, are you with us?

00:40:05.000 I'm with you.

00:40:06.000 How are you guys?

00:40:06.000 How are you, Jason?

00:40:07.000 Good, man.

00:40:08.000 Good.

00:40:09.000 We've got a couple things.

00:40:11.000 Going back, just a couple things to run through real quick.

00:40:16.000 I think most of the police are just desensitized and, you know, they don't They don't even really think about what they're doing, and they're so used to being able to do anything they want, they just carry out whatever they do out of being desensitized, and they will follow orders in the future.

00:40:31.000 My concern, which is talking about dividing conquer, another thing that I think needs to be looked at is the food supply in our country.

00:40:43.000 And those chemtrails that are just driving me nuts because they're spraying Atlanta like crazy and it's driving me nuts.

00:40:50.000 Every time I look up I just get so irritated to, you know, the big picture of everything that's going on.

00:40:57.000 Let me interject a minute and tell you.

00:40:58.000 Last weekend I was in a little big town up in northeast Texas.

00:41:03.000 I wasn't near any big city and they were chemtrailing like the devil. 1.00

00:41:07.000 Now, you know, what are they chemtrailing over this largely rural area for?

00:41:12.000 Well, I don't know, and that's what I'm trying to figure out, but I have noticed, you know, when I've been looking into stuff, I've been noticing that a large bit of bats are dying up in the northeast United States.

00:41:22.000 We've got birds dropping out of the sky.

00:41:24.000 We've got the bees dying. 0.98

00:41:26.000 We've got, you know, the genetically modified organisms in our crops.

00:41:33.000 And then we have the doomsday seed ball.

00:41:35.000 What's that seed ball for?

00:41:37.000 Uh, and my thinking in this is, hey, is this because they have gone so far they didn't stop to think that they should?

00:41:44.000 And, you know, when they go ahead and, you know, the prices of everything are so high, we're paying so much for everything, what are they going to do with all this money when it's all said and done?

00:41:55.000 I mean, you're just going to have money and what are they going to spend it on?

00:41:57.000 Nothing.

00:41:57.000 There's nothing to buy because they're going to own everything.

00:41:59.000 And they're going to own the few bit of people that are left and whatever they're going to do.

00:42:04.000 You know, I'm just concerned about how my family is going to make it and everybody else in the world is going to make it beyond the scope of what's going on, because there's such a serious reality to everything that's going on, and it's right in front of your face.

00:42:18.000 Well, Terry, the bottom line is the only thing we have is our information and our freedom as human beings, our God-given freedoms, and we have to just keep spreading this information.

00:42:28.000 There's no doubt in my mind that we're currently under bio-attack with all these chemtrails, and now the mainstream media is starting to report on it, and of course they're reporting that it's here to save us from global warming.

00:42:39.000 Another thing that's been embedded into our brains for the last 25 years.

00:42:43.000 You know, oh no, global warming!

00:42:45.000 Oh, they must be there to help!

00:42:46.000 And like you said, Jim, this isn't always over huge cities.

00:42:50.000 You know, I'm in a little town in upstate New York, you know, most of the time I'm down in Texas right now, but they spray every day there.

00:42:56.000 This is not a largely populated area.

00:42:58.000 I'm out in the mountains, and I point it up, and some people, they get it.

00:43:02.000 They're like, wait a minute, yeah, that wasn't there.

00:43:04.000 What are those things?

00:43:05.000 And other people, oh, that's just plain foam.

00:43:08.000 Yeah, but you know what I've noticed, though, is time is going on.

00:43:12.000 As I'm standing outside, my throat and my nose are starting to get more and more like, um, burning sensation in it.

00:43:21.000 And I've noticed with other people, just, I've noticed people, uh, my wife works, and she was at work one day, and she's outside just standing there, and you know, nothing's going on. 0.99

00:43:30.000 And, you know, a lot of people are even afraid to even bring it up, because you go, oh, chemtrail, and people go, oh, you're an idiot, you know, whatever. 0.98

00:43:37.000 Well, I'll tell you what, you go talk to your local doctor, or one that's been in practice for say more than 30 years, or 20 years. 0.91

00:43:44.000 You go talk to your local druggist, one who's been in business for more than 20 years, and you'll find out they will all tell you that in the past 10 years or so, they have seen a significant rise in respiratory problems.

00:43:57.000 Yeah, it all coincides with the advent of the chemtrail.

00:44:00.000 Yeah, I don't think it's a coincidence.

00:44:01.000 Terry, I thank you for the call.

00:44:02.000 We're going to move on to the next caller.

00:44:04.000 Let's go to Jim in West Virginia.

00:44:06.000 Jim, are you with us?

00:44:08.000 Oh, yeah, you guys are pretty well informed.

00:44:11.000 Maybe you can help me with this, okay?

00:44:14.000 If, let's say, 1 in 10,000 people living in America in 2001 was an Islamic terrorist, Shouldn't we have seen maybe 25,000 of these terrorists parading across our TV screens and chains? 0.98

00:44:27.000 Where are these guys?

00:44:28.000 And I think I've uncovered a huge conspiracy, Jason.

00:44:31.000 Let's hear it.

00:44:33.000 I think that Alex Jones has captured them and he's hiding them in his basement.

00:44:38.000 Have you ever been in his basement?

00:44:40.000 I haven't been into his basement.

00:44:43.000 Maybe that's where the white, blue-eyed, blonde-haired terrorists that the white Al-Qaeda Fox & Friends is talking about, maybe Alex did round them up and they are in fact in the InfoWars basement.

00:44:55.000 Well, you might want to come look, okay?

00:44:57.000 Well, Jim, I think you're on to something, because I've been keeping up with this since 9-11, and, you know, they've arrested thousands of people.

00:45:05.000 We still have a few hundred hidden out at Guantanamo, and yet there's only been one trial, and that was in Missouri.

00:45:13.000 Come on, where is this giant terrorist group that we're supposed to be so afraid of?

00:45:18.000 Well, hold on, let me answer just for a second, Jim in West Virginia, and I thank you for the call.

00:45:24.000 Look, the real terrorism threat is like overseas, and they just tell us that the people who are the real terrorists, such as the guys that did the USS Cole bombing, they got away, or they were let go in Yemen.

00:45:36.000 See, it's so far removed from us that people will actually read that and believe it.

00:45:41.000 Like, we're going to let the actual terrorists, the real terrorists, the real Al-Qaeda, the guys who supposedly bombed this stuff, they're not the ones in Gitmo?

00:45:49.000 They're not the ones in Abu Ghraib?

00:45:50.000 I mean, come on.

00:45:52.000 Let me give you an example of how easy it is To create false terrorism.

00:45:56.000 There was a report that came out of Iraq about an Iraqi cab driver who was stopped at an American military checkpoint.

00:46:03.000 They took him and his cab into custody, took him to an American base, held him for about two hours, and then said, okay, you're free to go.

00:46:10.000 And he said, well, wait a minute, I gotta have my driver's license, you know, or I'll be in trouble.

00:46:15.000 And they said, oh, well, you're gonna have to drive over to this police station.

00:46:19.000 And they'll give you a driver's license back.

00:46:21.000 So he said, okay.

00:46:23.000 So he's driving over to the police station, but something went wrong with his cab.

00:46:26.000 He had mechanical trouble.

00:46:28.000 So he pulled in a garage to find out what was going on, and they found his trunk and his door panels crammed with explosives.

00:46:35.000 Now, just guess what would have happened when he pulled up to the police station?

00:46:39.000 Oops! 0.78

00:46:40.000 Another suicide bomber.

00:46:43.000 See how easy that is to create? 0.99

00:46:45.000 Provocateur. 0.73

00:46:46.000 Well, even when they get caught, like when British soldiers were caught dressing up like Muslims and ready to bomb a mosque, what happens?

00:46:53.000 Well, by the time that the actual British military went there to free them no matter what, the police chief already wised up and let them go.

00:47:00.000 Right.

00:47:01.000 Right.

00:47:02.000 I mean, that's one of my favorite parts in Terror Storm, where we're actually showing that.

00:47:06.000 You keep adding all those stories up, and all of a sudden you find out that the great philosopher Pogo was correct.

00:47:12.000 We have met the enemy, and he is us.

00:47:14.000 He is us.

00:47:15.000 He is us.

00:47:16.000 I really hope that more people are going to grasp onto this information, that they're going to turn off American Idol, that they're not going to give a damn about who wins the World Series this year.

00:47:26.000 I know those are high hopes, Jim, but you'd think In this type of situation, where it really is do or die, it's them or us, people are going to step up.

00:47:35.000 I mean, I've yet to see it completely, but I have gotten, and I'm sure you do, thousands of emails that are encouraging.

00:47:42.000 And I see groups like We Are Change.

00:47:44.000 There's plenty of people out there, but Jason, I tell you, I think it's a forlorn hope.

00:47:49.000 Because every time I log on to Yahoo, I immediately look to see what's the news headlines.

00:47:56.000 And almost invariably, day after day, it's American Idol.

00:48:00.000 And I'm here to tell you, I have never watched one episode of American Idol, and yet every day there's pictures and news about something happening on American Idol as if that's really got anything to do with anything.

00:48:13.000 Yeah, a 42-minute Fox show.

00:48:14.000 And I will tell you further, the people that you're talking about, even the people who are beginning to wise up, Nothing's really going to get accomplished until people are hungry and in the streets.

00:48:25.000 Well, I hope it doesn't come to that, you know.

00:48:26.000 I hope it doesn't.

00:48:27.000 I hope it doesn't either.

00:48:28.000 That's why you and I are raised in hell and trying to tell people what's going on right now.

00:48:32.000 I've been trying to tell people what's going on for 30 years, and I'm just the conspiracy theorist.

00:48:37.000 Never mind that everything I've said for the past 30 years has proven true or has come true.

00:48:42.000 Absolutely.

00:48:43.000 I mean, you are really one of the pioneers.

00:48:44.000 You're one of the guys that I actually, again, read and watched before I was really hip to any of this NWO stuff.

00:48:50.000 I was interested in your JFK research, and I used to look into UFOs quite a bit back when I was in high school and college, so you were a name that was synonymous with that.

00:49:01.000 And you do!

00:49:02.000 No matter what kind of information you put out, you're automatically labeled as a conspiracy theorist because you don't adhere to the mainstream media's version of events, or the account that they want to tell the masses.

00:49:14.000 Let's take another call.

00:49:15.000 Let's go to John in Ohio.

00:49:17.000 John, are you with us?

00:49:21.000 I met Jim out at Kent State University, and I admired his book, Crossfire, and I think he's doing great work.

00:49:29.000 I think you do great work.

00:49:31.000 And I agree that the basic motor of propaganda machine for all of the police state measures, the imperial warmongering around the world, is 9-11, and that has to be exposed.

00:49:43.000 And the divider rule tactic, I think, is operative not only in Iraq, Where the CIA and British Intelligence are pitting Sunni against Shia and then saying we've got to stop there because we're the angelic noble referees who've got to stop this when we set it up.

00:49:58.000 But also among those who would be brought to the 9-11 truth movement, I think are turned away sometimes by some among the paleo-conservatives, some on this network and others, who try to piggyback on the former

00:50:14.000 uh... uh... engine uh... imperial war and uh... police state measures this country which is anti-communism anti-socialism i don't belong to any organization but i i i read some socialist marxist socialist publications uh... uh... sites like w s w s dot org workers org and the disparity between what is uh... said sometimes on shortwave about that and that the actual fact i think plays right into the hands

00:50:42.000 Of those who want to, I think, continue to pull us, because if I could speak about this after the break, I'd really like to.

00:50:50.000 Alright Dave, I'm actually going to have to let you go because we've got the final segment with Jim Mars, but you know, there's no doubt that it's there to divide us.

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00:54:20.000 I won't even turn my head.

00:54:25.000 Don't send your kinfolks to give me no talking.

00:54:31.000 I'll be gone like I said.

00:54:36.000 You'd say the same old thing that you've been saying all along. 0.98

00:54:41.000 Lay there in your bed and keep your mouth shut till I'm gone. 0.99

00:54:45.000 Don't give me that old familiar crying, cussing, moan. 1.00

00:54:50.000 Understand your man. 0.94

00:54:54.000 I'm tired of your bad-mouthing.

00:54:56.000 Understand your man.

00:54:59.000 All right, it's the final segment over at the Alex Jones Program.

00:55:02.000 I just want to remind everybody that the re-feed begins in less than ten minutes over at InfoWars.com.

00:55:08.000 If you missed any of the other three hours or some of this hour with Jim Mars, you're going to want to tune in.

00:55:13.000 I had Paul Joseph Watson in.

00:55:14.000 I took calls all day.

00:55:16.000 And one of the things I Discuss, Jim, is the fact that now they're going to start making our change out of steel because zinc and copper and nickel are too expensive.

00:55:25.000 We already know from six months ago, the report, that a penny now takes a penny and a half to actually make.

00:55:30.000 So that's, you know, exponential inflation right there.

00:55:34.000 We know they're pushing for $200 a barrel oil, which is just going to further eviscerate the economy in the United States.

00:55:40.000 What do you see happening in this country in the next six months?

00:55:45.000 Unfortunately, it doesn't look good.

00:55:48.000 The economy, as everybody can tell, is stripping gears.

00:55:53.000 China, I understand, is now demanding from its customers, meaning Wal-Mart and everybody in the United States, they want to be paid in Euros, or even Chinese money.

00:56:04.000 They do not want to accept American dollars anymore.

00:56:07.000 And so, I don't know.

00:56:08.000 All I can say is, I think everyone listening, You better start planning some place to go that's outside the city and take some gardening tools.

00:56:18.000 I'm with you there.

00:56:19.000 I'm in a little space up in upstate New York and I've got about a five acre backyard and about thirty acres behind that.

00:56:27.000 I do feel a little bit more secure not being in a big city where if there is some kind of an event or an attack, it's going to be harder to round me up.

00:56:37.000 But we can't all just go and hide either, Jim.

00:56:41.000 We have to stand up.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, that's the whole thing.

00:56:45.000 Throughout the history of Western civilization, there's been one westward movement.

00:56:50.000 And during the 19th century, the population of the United States moved from the East Coast and spread all the way over to the West Coast.

00:56:58.000 And historians really are not shy about telling us why everyone kept moving.

00:57:04.000 Everyone was trying to escape political and religious tyranny.

00:57:08.000 But now, there's no place to go.

00:57:10.000 So we're going to have to turn and fight.

00:57:12.000 We're just going to have to start Well, I'm not going to cave in.

00:57:15.000 them, either that or just cave in and become serfs.

00:57:18.000 Well, I'm not going to cave in.

00:57:20.000 I'd rather live on my feet than die on my knees.

00:57:23.000 I'm sorry, die on my feet than live on my knees.

00:57:26.000 And I see so many people that are just so acclimated. 0.65

00:57:29.000 Actually, I want to die in bed.

00:57:29.000 I'm with you there.

00:57:32.000 No, I don't want to say anything like that because then it's going to be misconstrued that I killed myself in bed or something, just like this D.C. Madam case.

00:57:40.000 By the way, folks. 0.96

00:57:41.000 Be sure and plant your body in a bed.

00:57:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:57:44.000 Well, I'm sure you've been following the Palfrey case, right?

00:57:48.000 I mean, they find her in her mom's shed and there's two suicide notes.

00:57:52.000 And, of course, she must have killed herself, even though most women don't hang themselves. 0.99

00:57:56.000 She was on Alex's program saying she wasn't going to commit suicide.

00:58:01.000 That's where we are right now, Jim.

00:58:03.000 Right, and nobody seems to raise a cane about that.

00:58:06.000 You know, it's like, oh well, I guess you commit suicide because that's what we're told.

00:58:10.000 Because that's what CNN said.

00:58:11.000 Thank you so much for joining me, Jim.

00:58:13.000 Again, the rebroadcast begins in about 60 seconds over at InfoWars.com.

00:58:18.000 I'm Jason Burmess.

00:58:19.000 In for Alex Jones, I'll be here tomorrow.

00:58:22.000 As well.

00:58:22.000 And don't forget to go to the Alamo Draft House on May 17th and May 18th, 4pm on Saturday, 7pm on Sunday, to check out the 9-11 Chronicles, Part 1, Truth Rising.

00:58:33.000 God bless you all!

00:58:34.000 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:58:40.000 Take care, Jason.

00:58:40.000 We'll see you again tomorrow?

00:58:41.000 Alright, later on, man.

00:58:43.000 See ya.

00:58:46.000 This begins in about 60 seconds over at InfoWars.com.

00:58:50.000 I'm Jason Bermas, in for Alex Jones.

00:58:52.000 I'll be here tomorrow as well.

Alex Jones Show - May 08, 2008

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