Alex Jones Show - 20080509_Fri_Alex

00:00:00.000 Welcome ladies and gentlemen, welcome!

00:00:05.000 I am not Alex Jones, I am Jason Bermas.

00:00:09.000 I'm subbing in for Alex one more day.

00:00:13.000 But boy am I excited!

00:00:17.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:00:20.000 I am Jason Bermas.

00:00:21.000 I'm subbing in for Alex one more day.

00:00:23.000 But boy, am I excited.

00:00:25.000 I came in today to find out that I have a jam-packed show.

00:00:30.000 And on the line right now, I have both Kevin Booth of American Drug War and the legend Tommy Chong, you know, from such movies as, you know, the Cheech and Chong films.

00:00:41.000 Next movie, Nice Dreams, even the Corsican brothers, all good stuff.

00:00:44.000 And he has a prominent role in American Drug War.

00:00:47.000 Tommy, of course, picked up for selling glassware on the internet after 9-11.

00:00:52.000 That's a no-no, apparently.

00:00:54.000 And I'm not sure how many months he did.

00:00:56.000 I think he did like 8 to 12, but we'll ask him.

00:00:59.000 Kevin, Tommy, are you with me?

00:01:00.000 Yeah.

00:01:01.000 Excellent to have you both on.

00:01:03.000 I guess I want to ask Kevin first, what really launched you into this American drug war picture?

00:01:08.000 I've seen it.

00:01:08.000 I think it's excellent.

00:01:10.000 And, you know, I know it's made its rounds on Showtime.

00:01:12.000 I know we're selling it here, but it's really getting out there.

00:01:15.000 Well, like I say in the film, I mean, my personal motives were just the deaths of several family members to what I call the legal drugs of alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceutical.

00:01:26.000 Drugs that kill at least almost a million Americans a year, while all the so-called illegal drugs kill less than 11,000 a year.

00:01:40.000 And when you look at the death stats from marijuana, it's pretty much impossible to find.

00:01:46.000 A classic, my dogs are barking.

00:01:49.000 Live radio.

00:01:53.000 That's pretty much what got me going on this, but I also wanted to have Tommy on, because they've got a new film out called AKA Tommy Chong, which totally focuses on Tommy's arrest.

00:02:07.000 Josh Gilbert, filmmaker, did a great job of making this film.

00:02:11.000 And that's why I thought it would be so important to have Tommy on right now, because he's just had a story happen to him.

00:02:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:02:18.000 All right, Tommy, so why don't you tell the listeners your story?

00:02:21.000 You were jailed for how long?

00:02:22.000 Well, I was arrested.

00:02:26.000 Well, not really arrested.

00:02:28.000 My house was raided by the DEA.

00:02:31.000 And they came in and they grabbed computers and cash.

00:02:34.000 And they were looking for weapons, guns.

00:02:37.000 And I had some pot there.

00:02:40.000 They took it, but they weren't really looking for pot.

00:02:43.000 They were after me, basically.

00:02:46.000 And bongs were the excuse. 0.96

00:02:49.000 What they did, they set up a phony head shop in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania, because Pennsylvania was one of two states that would prosecute this law, that little-known law that made it illegal to ship drug paraphernalia that little-known law that made it illegal to ship drug paraphernalia across the state And so that was the little technicality they got my company on, my son's company.

00:03:15.000 And I pled guilty because I didn't want them going after my son or my wife, which they threatened to do.

00:03:21.000 And I received nine months in federal penitentiary.

00:03:27.000 Wow, nine months.

00:03:28.000 What was it like there in federal penitentiary?

00:03:30.000 I've seen the interview that Kevin conducted with you about two or three years ago.

00:03:35.000 Yeah, it was life-changing for me.

00:03:40.000 I went from a comedian pothead to an activist pothead.

00:03:45.000 They pissed me off.

00:03:50.000 And, uh, you know, the fact that they could put me in, and I was in there with a lot of people, you know, that were victims of the drug war, and their sentences were a lot worse than mine.

00:04:00.000 You know, they were, I was in there with people that, you know, finishing up a 20-year sentence for marijuana cultivation, you know. 0.53

00:04:08.000 Ridiculous, ridiculous times, you know. 0.68

00:04:11.000 And they were the most peaceful and caring people in the prison. 0.94

00:04:17.000 You know, the horror stories in the federal prison system is legendary, you know, and I was lucky enough to be able to be a part of that.

00:04:27.000 Yeah, lucky enough indeed.

00:04:28.000 Tommy, thank you for coming on.

00:04:30.000 Kevin, we'll be back after this.

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00:07:59.000 All right, we are back with Tommy Chong and...

00:08:08.000 And of course, Kevin Booth, the creator of American Drug War.

00:08:12.000 Tommy, also in a new picture.

00:08:15.000 Tommy, why don't you tell us about the new project.

00:08:16.000 Obviously we've seen you in American Drug War, very powerful in that, you know, along with Freeway Ricky Ross and others.

00:08:23.000 Just an excellent film by Kevin Booth.

00:08:24.000 But what's this other project?

00:08:26.000 Well, AKA Tommy Chong is the film that was made by Josh Gilbert about I mean, my trials and tribulations going into prison.

00:08:38.000 It shows me before, during, and after the prison thing.

00:08:43.000 But there was an interesting development that just happened two days ago.

00:08:48.000 The feds, the same people that put me in jail originally, Mary Beth Buchanan, or Mary Beth Loose Cannon, as I call her, They raided the warehouse where the film was being kept, and they confiscated somewhere like 10,000 copies of A.K.A.

00:09:08.000 Tommy Chong.

00:09:09.000 And they told Matt Stevens, the distributor of the film, that they were doing a preliminary seizure.

00:09:19.000 And he asked, you know, when can we get our stuff back?

00:09:25.000 What's going on?

00:09:26.000 And they said, well, the investigation after the investigation, and they asked him how long would the investigation take?

00:09:34.000 And they said upwards to 15 years.

00:09:38.000 So it doesn't look like they're getting those 10,000 copies back today.

00:09:41.000 Did they give a reason why they did that?

00:09:43.000 No, because it's a preliminary seizure, so they can't really tell you why they're seizing our property.

00:09:43.000 No.

00:09:51.000 Oh, that's really nice.

00:09:51.000 Well, I actually have Josh Gilbert and Matt Stephens of AKA Tommy Chong on the line.

00:09:56.000 Let's bring those guys up. 0.97

00:09:58.000 Josh, Matt, are you with me?

00:10:00.000 I'm here.

00:10:00.000 This is Matt.

00:10:01.000 Okay, is Josh with me too?

00:10:02.000 Awesome.

00:10:03.000 So why don't you guys tell me what happened.

00:10:05.000 I hear you guys got raided and your product was actually taken away.

00:10:09.000 Yeah, you know, we've done, to give you a brief history here, Tommy and I did a little business back together in the 90s, so naturally we're guilty by association where he was the spokesperson for our products.

00:10:23.000 And then as Tommy's Voltz events unfolded with the Operation Pipe Dreams, you know, Josh made a very fine documentary on it and then brought it to us to say, hey, Why don't you help us distribute this?" And we said, sure, I'd love to.

00:10:40.000 So we released the documentary eight weeks ago, and there's about a 10-minute clip in there that focuses on Mary Beth Buchanan and some of her, I guess we could call, interesting behaviors.

00:10:54.000 I mean, she's in the Western District of Pennsylvania, and there's airplanes crashing in her district with terrorists on them.

00:11:02.000 And she's focusing on pornography and bongs, and we're at a time of crisis in the country, and she's looking at stuff like that.

00:11:10.000 So I think it's something that everyone would say, hmm, that doesn't seem right.

00:11:15.000 Anyways, to make a short story shorter, we released the video eight weeks ago, which kind of brings some of Mary Beth's actions into light.

00:11:26.000 And sure enough, eight weeks after we released the video, we get rated.

00:11:30.000 Now, there is a sealed affidavit somewhere that says what the probable cause is for the raid.

00:11:37.000 However, the affidavit is sealed and will be sealed as long as there is an investigation.

00:11:44.000 And there is no known chronology, time frame, or whatever to when the investigation will be terminated.

00:11:53.000 And this is really odd to me because there's a ton of different marijuana type film documentaries out there.

00:11:58.000 I think the latest is Super Jaime.

00:12:00.000 And that's not getting rated.

00:12:01.000 That's not getting taken out. 0.75

00:12:02.000 It seems like when you try to take a political perspective and expose those that are hypocrites, like you just said, you know, Mary Beth Buchanan in Pennsylvania, you know, where a plane went down, supposed a terrorist took it down.

00:12:14.000 It seems like we've turned into the terrorists after 9-11.

00:12:16.000 It seems like, you know, Patriot Act 1 and 2, and even the Military Commissions Act, is really there for the U.S.

00:12:22.000 citizen and not so much the spooky terrorist.

00:12:26.000 Well, you know, this is Kevin talking.

00:12:28.000 You know, your guest on earlier was talking about how people didn't used to fear the police.

00:12:34.000 You know, I would say that the last 37 or so years of the drug war have been a perfect way to change how everyone views police.

00:12:44.000 And the drug war is a perfect way of making everybody so we fear the police now.

00:12:48.000 It's really changed the game while also dumbing down America.

00:12:53.000 And, you know, what other better boogeymen are there that can never be defeated but drugs and terror?

00:12:59.000 How can you ever defeat drugs or terror?

00:13:02.000 There's no way to do those things.

00:13:03.000 It's a perfect, it's a perfect, you know, sigh upon us.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, it's a perfect ongoing war and a perfect way to get funding again and again and again and again.

00:13:12.000 And then I would say even another aspect of this is when they jail these people for non-violent drug crimes, they're in these prisons working for privatized corporations at about 39 cents an hour, sometimes doing telemarketing.

00:13:24.000 It's a perfect scam.

00:13:25.000 They make money coming and going and every which way in between.

00:13:29.000 Tommy, what's your view on the war on terror right now?

00:13:33.000 On the war on terror?

00:13:34.000 Yes.

00:13:35.000 Well, obviously it was manufactured, you know, purposely or inadvertently by this administration or by the Republican Party in order to keep, first of all, in order to get them elected.

00:13:52.000 And second of all, in order to keep their cronies that are making millions and billions of dollars off that, money is made with chaos.

00:14:02.000 Whenever there's chaos or martial law declared, then these huge corporations can come in and just rape and pillage the villages without opposition.

00:14:17.000 In fact, they do it under the guise of of trying to create law and order, like they try to create peace in Iraq.

00:14:30.000 So it gives you an idea.

00:14:33.000 And like Matt said, or Kevin said, this is the perfect way to keep the criminals in action.

00:14:44.000 It's rats in the pannery, is what I call it.

00:14:49.000 And so I feel, you know, what I learned in prison is that the universe is perfect.

00:14:58.000 And for every action, there's a reaction.

00:15:00.000 It's called karma, whatever you want to call it.

00:15:03.000 And so what we're going to witness here, what we witnessed with the George Bush, you know, time in office, we saw how the universe just played with him, you know, with Katrina, with the war, with You know, all these, you know, with Dick Cheney shooting his friend in the face with a shotgun.

00:15:21.000 All these things are the universe acting against these guys, you know, because that's the way it works.

00:15:28.000 So you, like Kevin, would probably say that you don't see any end in sight for the war on terror or the war on drugs?

00:15:37.000 Yeah.

00:15:37.000 Me?

00:15:39.000 I'm saying, Tommy, do you see an end in sight?

00:15:41.000 Kevin said he doesn't see an end in sight.

00:15:42.000 Do I see an end in sight?

00:15:44.000 Yeah.

00:15:45.000 Oh yeah, it's a cycle.

00:15:47.000 Absolutely.

00:15:48.000 Absolutely.

00:15:49.000 I see it coming.

00:15:50.000 You know, nothing lasts forever.

00:15:52.000 You know, the peace and prosperity doesn't last forever.

00:15:55.000 You know, Obama won't last forever.

00:15:58.000 No one lasts forever.

00:15:59.000 And George Bush, definitely, his time is not only numbered, But, you know, him and his boys broke international law, and so they won't be able to travel outside of the U.S. without risk of being arrested. 0.95

00:16:13.000 So, oh yeah, karma is a bitch boy, and when it comes down on you, it comes down on you. 1.00

00:16:19.000 And that's what kept me going, you know, while I was in jail. 0.94

00:16:25.000 I just used that time, you know, to write a book and to become an activist and to, you know, travel around the country and to show people like Mary Beth Buchanan, you know, her actions, you know.

00:16:37.000 I mean, it's done secretly, but I'm going to be on every major talk show, you know, just talking about it and talking about it until, you know, I embarrass the government so much. 0.99

00:16:49.000 That they're just going to have to knuckle under and give up this stupid attitude they have. 0.98

00:16:57.000 Well, I hope you're correct. 1.00

00:16:58.000 Josh, Matt, where can you get the movie now that it's been rated?

00:17:01.000 Is there another place that we're going to be able to get?

00:17:03.000 A.K.A.

00:17:03.000 Tommy Chong?

00:17:05.000 Yeah, you can still order the additional units that haven't been taken, and that website is A.K.A.

00:17:16.000 Tommy Chong dot com, and we can ship you out one.

00:17:19.000 Excellent, excellent.

00:17:20.000 Go to DEA.gov and buy your copy today.

00:17:23.000 Well, Kevin, I mean, there's a ton of extras on your American Drug War film.

00:17:28.000 One of them is a Tommy Chong extra, one of them is an Alex Jones extra.

00:17:32.000 I think there's even an extra on Joe Arpaio, the sheriff out there as well.

00:17:37.000 Yes, definitely, yeah.

00:17:39.000 You know, and I had to just show that.

00:17:41.000 A lot of people say they can't stand watching, but I mean, it's important For people to just see the arrogance, you know, in these drug warriors. 0.96

00:17:50.000 And when you go out there, and what I found, you know, in the four years I spent trying to document the drug war, is that most of these pro-drug warriors, kind of like Tommy says, they're like rats.

00:18:00.000 They scurry away, they hide in the shadows.

00:18:02.000 So it's rare when you find someone who's as pro-drug warrior as Joe Arpaio is, who's proud to be on the camera.

00:18:10.000 And so, you know, that's why, you know, it's important for people to see that face and to hear him talking.

00:18:16.000 Just the level of self-righteousness in it and just the denial of hypocrisy, just like what we're seeing right now in this massive San Diego bust, where now something like 250 students aren't going to be graduating, all because one girl OD'd on cocaine.

00:18:32.000 Well, I looked it up and, you know, the hazing deaths.

00:18:34.000 I mean, you know how many students die from hazing every year or so?

00:18:37.000 Once again, it's okay if you die from alcohol, it's okay if you die from cigarettes, it's certainly okay if you die from any number of pharmaceuticals.

00:18:44.000 But when someone dies from illegal drugs, like, oh my God, you know, it's time to just start throwing everybody in prison.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, and throwing them in prison and to someone like Arpaio who wants to dress them up in a pink prison jumpsuit, and I think it says something like, I was a drug addict, and I put on a chain gang, really dehumanizes his prisoners.

00:19:01.000 At least from what I've seen.

00:19:02.000 I mean, that's all over the place.

00:19:04.000 They did that in the prison.

00:19:06.000 This is Tommy Chong.

00:19:07.000 I was there, you know, dehumanizing people. 1.00

00:19:10.000 They had a transvestite that still had her penis. 1.00

00:19:14.000 But she had breasts. 1.00

00:19:16.000 And so she was like a naughty. 1.00

00:19:19.000 And ugly as sin, by the way. 0.94

00:19:24.000 And he or she had a naughtiness.

00:19:27.000 You know, she was a naughtiness in the main prison. 1.00

00:19:30.000 So what they did, they dressed her up in a pink... Hold that thought, Tom.

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00:24:43.000 We're talking to Tommy Chong right now, and before we get back to the prison and dehumanization, Tommy, You mentioned how these people like to create order out of chaos, and I just have to ask you, because a lot of people have talked about this on this program, what's your view on 9-11?

00:24:57.000 We've had people like Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, you know, Senators, Congressmen come on and doubt the official version.

00:25:04.000 Do you doubt the official version of 9-11, Tommy?

00:25:06.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:25:07.000 Absolutely.

00:25:08.000 There are so many horror stories about 9-11 that have been I mean, it'll be like the Kennedy assassination, you know, years later we'll find out the truth.

00:25:20.000 Absolutely.

00:25:21.000 Well, what do you think some of the biggest inconsistencies in the official version are?

00:25:25.000 Well, the biggest inconsistency is the fact that who was allowed to fly after everything was shut down?

00:25:34.000 It was the Bin Ladens. 0.97

00:25:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:37.000 I mean, they blame this guy, and then they let the family go while everybody else is grounded.

00:25:42.000 Yeah, it would have been great to have them, to ask them some questions, or to torture them, actually, you know.

00:25:49.000 Once, you know, we got Bush, you know, got the torture thing under his belt.

00:25:54.000 Well, what interests me is this week they actually reported that everybody who was involved in the USS Cole bombing, again, it's supposedly Al-Qaeda, the big boogeyman, was let go in Yemen.

00:26:03.000 And you would think if this terrorism threat was real, these are the guys that would be in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, Tommy.

00:26:08.000 Yeah, yeah, well, see, you see, that's how it works, you know, and that's the way it worked in prison, by the way.

00:26:14.000 It's the same system that they have, you know?

00:26:18.000 That's why, you know, the powers that be are perverting justice.

00:26:23.000 And we get outraged, you know, because we believe in the Constitution and all that.

00:26:29.000 But there was even reports about Pearl Harbor being set up.

00:26:36.000 At least they knew that it was coming, and they could have done a lot more than what they did to stop it.

00:26:42.000 Absolutely.

00:26:43.000 I mean, it's pretty interesting.

00:26:45.000 But they needed Pearl Harbor in order to launch the bigger war, and that was the same as 9-11. 0.71

00:26:51.000 If it wasn't for 9-11, we wouldn't have had Bush in the White House.

00:26:55.000 Well, I agree with you there.

00:26:56.000 And then you have the Project for a New American Century, which is this neocon think tank, including Cheney and Wolfowitz and people like Dan Quayle, where they actually call for this new Pearl Harbor in a document called Rebuilding America's Defenses only three months before the attacks, where they say they need it in order to transform the Middle East or Eurasia.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:17.000 And it's all to subvert and to get the national You know, to get the oil, you know, to get their hands on the oil.

00:27:27.000 Not because we don't have oil of our own.

00:27:31.000 No, it's to control the world's supply of oil.

00:27:34.000 And that's basically what's happened.

00:27:38.000 And this is why I'm saying the universe is so perfect, because, you know, the oil prices and that have just forced people to go to the electric car.

00:27:49.000 And now Toyota is the biggest car maker manufacturer in the world because they have a hybrid.

00:27:54.000 And we have the technology to have full-on electric cars.

00:27:58.000 And eventually we will have to have them because no one will be able to afford the gas cars.

00:28:05.000 And so no matter what these guys do, eventually it balances out.

00:28:13.000 Well, my view is this.

00:28:13.000 I mean, the last two years, the oil companies have posted record profits.

00:28:18.000 Obviously, there's no shortage of oil.

00:28:19.000 What they've done is they've gone in, they've taken over the second richest oil nation in the world, Iraq, and because they control the supply, they can demand as much money as they like, and that's why we're seeing $4 a gallon oil.

00:28:31.000 I'm soon to see $5 a gallon oil this summer.

00:28:33.000 Absolutely, but what it does, it forces, it's just like the food shortage.

00:28:37.000 You know, we have two problems in America.

00:28:40.000 We're getting a food shortage and we have obesity problems.

00:28:45.000 It sort of evens itself out, you know?

00:28:47.000 Well, those are two subjects we actually do talk about a lot on this show.

00:28:50.000 I mean, food shortage, a lot of people don't understand that the gas also jacks up the price of food because the supplies are shipped throughout the country, you know, and we're just being raped over and over again on only the gas prices but our food prices as well.

00:29:03.000 So you see a lot of modes of control.

00:29:05.000 Do you fear that they might carry out yet another attack for more control in this country?

00:29:10.000 Well, it's going to be difficult for them to do that.

00:29:13.000 You know, you can't, you know, it's like telling the same joke twice, you know.

00:29:19.000 People are ready, you know, and so there's going to be citizens that, you know, that will blow the whistle or, you know, alert them.

00:29:28.000 Like there was that FBI agent in Milwaukee that knew about the That one terrorist.

00:29:34.000 Okay, alright.

00:29:35.000 Hold on one minute, Tommy.

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00:33:16.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.

00:33:17.000 I am Jason Bermas, and we do have Alex Jones on the line.

00:33:21.000 Alex, are you with us?

00:33:23.000 Yes, Bermas. 0.99

00:33:24.000 Jason, I'm here at the beach with my family.

00:33:26.000 Appreciate you sitting in, doing a great job.

00:33:27.000 I just want to make a point, ask Tommy Chong a question, and then I'll throw it back to all you guys.

00:33:32.000 First off, I want to thank Tommy Chong.

00:33:34.000 I want to thank Kevin Booth.

00:33:35.000 I want to thank the other filmmakers for coming on.

00:33:37.000 I just want to say this.

00:33:39.000 Silica Stillo, the DEA agent who exposed government drug dealing, uh, you know, on Frontline, the rest of it, but also in Kevin's film.

00:33:45.000 He was just raided.

00:33:47.000 Tommy has now been raided.

00:33:49.000 I believe this is political punishment because this film has aired more than 50 times on Showtime.

00:33:55.000 I'm hearing buzz all over the street, and folks, you know, I don't say I'm hearing buzz if I'm not.

00:33:59.000 I'm hearing huge buzz for American Drug War, and I think it made them mad that Tommy stood back up to him, so they went after him.

00:34:07.000 That said, Mr. Chong, do you think that they're targeting you, or does your gut tell you they're coming after you because you didn't take a raping without speaking up against it?

00:34:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:34:18.000 Absolutely.

00:34:19.000 You know, they try to write a clause in my punishment that I'm not supposed to profit from my crime in any way.

00:34:29.000 And if I were to take them literally, then I wouldn't be able to do my stand-up routine, or I wouldn't be able to work.

00:34:35.000 So I asked my lawyer, and they said, you know, they can't do anything.

00:34:39.000 You know, they just ignore it.

00:34:41.000 So that's what I've been doing.

00:34:43.000 And so this is the result, you know.

00:34:45.000 Well, that's asinine to claim that you, incredibly famous icon, need to profit from them ruining your completely legitimate family business that you weren't even really completely involved in while they ship the drugs in.

00:34:57.000 Again, it's just like terror. 0.83

00:34:58.000 They ship the majority in.

00:35:00.000 They only bust cartels that don't pay the cut into their banks, just like Scarface.

00:35:04.000 That's based on true story, the part with the banks.

00:35:06.000 Laundering the money.

00:35:07.000 It's the same thing.

00:35:08.000 They organize the terror.

00:35:09.000 They provocateur the terror.

00:35:11.000 They foster the terror.

00:35:12.000 They stage the terror.

00:35:13.000 And I just wanted to say that I'm so honored that we've had congressmen and Charlie Sheen and, you know, Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson and the German defense minister and all these people on the show.

00:35:26.000 And now to have Tommy Chung come out on the show and say that he questions the official story.

00:35:31.000 Just so your statement is clear, are you saying you believe that they used it to take our liberties?

00:35:37.000 Or are you saying that, on top of it, you believe that they may have somehow been involved?

00:35:42.000 I mean, you know, with the buildings being blown up, the hijacking drills that day the government was running.

00:35:48.000 I mean, bottom line, what do you think about 9-11?

00:35:50.000 Well, yeah, you just said it right there.

00:35:53.000 And the thing is, you know, you could speculate.

00:35:56.000 But you don't have to speculate with facts.

00:35:58.000 These are cold, hard facts.

00:36:00.000 The facts that the Bin Laden family was allowed to escape America. 0.98

00:36:05.000 I mean, that's a fact.

00:36:07.000 The fact that certain people weren't in the buildings that kind of knew the buildings were going to go down, that's a fact.

00:36:15.000 There's all these facts and just like the there's a fact of the firemen you know why the firemen were receiving each other you know when they found a dead fireman that only firemen were allowed to to rescue the body.

00:36:30.000 You know, and there's a book out there about that, why that is.

00:36:34.000 I won't even say on the air why that only firemen were allowed, because I don't want to, I want people to read for themselves, you know, so Google or whatever you can, the New York firemen that were at the World Trade Center, and these are facts, and so I'm not one for speculating.

00:36:53.000 Tommy, what do you think about building 7, not hit by a plane, but perfectly imploding?

00:36:53.000 Absolutely.

00:36:58.000 We have video of police, firemen, and others saying, the government says get back, we're going to bring it down.

00:37:03.000 Have you seen that?

00:37:04.000 No, I haven't seen that one, but I can believe it, you know.

00:37:08.000 Absolutely.

00:37:09.000 Well, let me just add one more point.

00:37:11.000 Bush signed the order to attack Afghanistan the day before 9-11, and had two aircraft carriers and 44,000 U.S.

00:37:18.000 troops massed around Tajikistan and Uzbekistan to invade Afghanistan.

00:37:23.000 You don't set up an invasion in one day.

00:37:25.000 No, no.

00:37:26.000 That takes six months at least, and even longer.

00:37:30.000 Yeah, that's the logistics.

00:37:33.000 Just like they say, they can't remove the troops in one day.

00:37:37.000 You know, so setting him up is even harder, you know.

00:37:40.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:37:42.000 Oh yeah, we are in the midst of a big, big, big thing, and history's gonna happen.

00:37:49.000 You know, we're lucky.

00:37:51.000 We're living through a very exciting part of our history.

00:37:51.000 We're lucky.

00:37:55.000 We're living at a time when it's all coming out.

00:37:58.000 I mean, the shooter, the commander of killing JFK on his deathbed admitted it was on the cover of Rolling Stone, and we got the video.

00:38:05.000 of his father, St. John Hunt's father, E. Howard Hunt, admitting what we always knew.

00:38:09.000 He was photographed being picked up as one of the tramps, and now the JFK thing is admitted.

00:38:14.000 Well, in closing, I want to throw you back to Kevin Booth and, of course, Jason Burmas and the rest of the folks.

00:38:18.000 We need to put major pressure on these guys to drop these selectively enforced charges.

00:38:24.000 But just in closing, the war on drugs started in the 70s.

00:38:28.000 There's triple the heroin, double the cocaine now that there was.

00:38:31.000 Our police are militarized.

00:38:32.000 We have more people in prison than any other country in the world.

00:38:36.000 Everybody knows they control it.

00:38:37.000 We've got to end this war on drugs now, and you'll be remembered as really an Alexander Schultz-Nietzsche in the fight against this tyranny, or as a Nelson Mandela for the political persecution you've gone through, Mr. Chong.

00:38:51.000 And I just want to thank you for coming on my show, and everybody needs to, you know, really pray for you and support you, and, you know, call the different agencies involved in this, call the media, and not let them run you through the ringer again.

00:39:05.000 I appreciate that, Alex.

00:39:07.000 Thank you, sir.

00:39:07.000 Take care, guys.

00:39:09.000 All right.

00:39:09.000 So, Tommy, what do you think that we can do to put pressure on those who have taken Matt and Josh's videos, a.k.a.

00:39:16.000 Tommy Chong?

00:39:17.000 What can we do to support you?

00:39:18.000 Is there a website?

00:39:20.000 Is there something we can do, our listeners can do?

00:39:22.000 The best support would be to buy the DVD.

00:39:27.000 That's the best support.

00:39:28.000 Because what they've done, they've hurt us financially, as they always do.

00:39:34.000 And what they're trying to do again is to get us to lawyer up so we can have that expense going.

00:39:41.000 So the best anybody could do is just what I'm doing.

00:39:44.000 I'm going out and I'm working.

00:39:46.000 I'm doing my gigs.

00:39:48.000 I'll be in San Francisco next weekend.

00:39:49.000 Again, I just want everybody to be aware of aka Tommy Chong dot com and get on that website and buy the product.

00:40:02.000 That's the best revenge.

00:40:05.000 Absolutely.

00:40:05.000 One of the things that I've done with American Drug War is not only did I sit down and watch it with my girlfriend, but I also sat down and watched it with my 13-year-old sister.

00:40:15.000 And I said, look, you know, this is really how it is.

00:40:18.000 And she watched and she's just like, you know, that makes a lot more sense than what they're telling us.

00:40:22.000 And, you know, why is it that we have, you know, triple the heroin, double the cocaine on the streets?

00:40:27.000 I mean, Kevin, your film really lays it out that, yeah, they use dupes like Ricky Ross to funnel in their drugs.

00:40:35.000 Absolutely.

00:40:36.000 But I'd like to just start by saying that I, you know, I had the pleasure of seeing the AKA Tommy Chong film.

00:40:43.000 Several months ago, and it's an incredible film.

00:40:46.000 It's a much more personal view than my film is, but I definitely recommend anybody that's gotten anything out of watching American Drug War, which you can get at americandrugwar.com.

00:40:57.000 I definitely, definitely recommend that you go to akatomichong.com right now and get a copy of that DVD before the government takes the rest of them.

00:41:06.000 No, you're right, and you know, making dupes out of Ricky Ross, but it's also important to To factor in the whole pharmaceutical complex on this deal.

00:41:15.000 60 Minutes ran a story about a Bayer drug that is responsible and the FDA has known that this drug called Tyrodol has been killing literally thousands of people a month.

00:41:28.000 It's a drug that they use during open-heart surgery and yet they allow that.

00:41:32.000 Now those people, you know, they're not going to get charged with domestic terrorism even though they're responsible for For more deaths per year than all illegal drugs combined.

00:41:42.000 Meanwhile, they're locking up people, putting them in prison or camps for growing a plant.

00:41:47.000 A plant which, by the way, like, you know, was part of the founding of this country.

00:41:51.000 A plant that has been used medicinally for tens of thousands of years.

00:41:56.000 And it's a very important factor of why marijuana is at the nexus of this whole thing.

00:42:01.000 Because if they take marijuana out of the drug war equation, there's just not enough Of, you know, heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, crystal meth and all that to keep this whole drug war prison complex afloat.

00:42:14.000 Because 85% of all illegal drug users only smoke marijuana.

00:42:19.000 And so that's why marijuana has to be kept Schedule 1.

00:42:22.000 And that's one of the biggest scams that I would, you know, hope to see changed in my lifetime, along with the legalization of medical marijuana across the board.

00:42:31.000 We have to get marijuana taken out of Schedule 1. 0.97

00:42:34.000 I'm with you there, but it'll be harder for them to push their brave new world on the society if they do that.

00:42:39.000 I mean, they've got the people so drugged up on things like Prozac and Ritalin.

00:42:44.000 It is almost like people are walking through society in like a consumerist daze.

00:42:49.000 You know, you wonder why, you know, the mall culture is so big and why people don't really know what's going on in this country.

00:42:54.000 It's because they're on Ritalin.

00:42:55.000 I know, and I'm at the point too where I'm sitting there, I'm here in Beverly Hills going, Hey, wow, honey, look!

00:43:01.000 Gas is only $4.60!

00:43:01.000 What a good deal!

00:43:04.000 God, we're so lucky!

00:43:06.000 And meanwhile, I turn on the news and it's like $0.12 a gallon in Venezuela.

00:43:09.000 Oops! 0.78

00:43:11.000 You know, it's the same with, like, pharmaceutical and healthcare in Canada and other countries, just like the Michael Moore film.

00:43:16.000 Point it out.

00:43:16.000 I mean, as Americans, we're being raped in every direction now.

00:43:20.000 Tommy, what's your view on the general populace right now?

00:43:20.000 Absolutely.

00:43:25.000 Are they just totally in a daze?

00:43:27.000 Are they coming around?

00:43:28.000 What do you think?

00:43:29.000 Well, there's always a percentage.

00:43:31.000 I look at it in the music world.

00:43:34.000 The people that are turned on are like jazz lovers.

00:43:38.000 They're the tip of the iceberg.

00:43:40.000 And then it goes down.

00:43:42.000 During the 60s, we had, you know, there's a massive turn on of people.

00:43:48.000 And then slowly, you know, that eroded, you know, went back to the alcohol-fueled, you know, good old boy kind of thing.

00:43:56.000 And I feel that, you know, the world, you know, again, the universe is perfect.

00:44:03.000 We're going through an enlightenment.

00:44:07.000 You know, and right now we're talking, the people that are on the panel right now, we're ahead of everybody.

00:44:12.000 We're the leaders.

00:44:16.000 And, but there's millions of people out there that are looking for the truth.

00:44:22.000 And, you know, they obviously can't find it with religion.

00:44:27.000 You know, religion is another controlling mindset, you know, used to control people to get them to do their bidding. 0.95

00:44:35.000 That was the thing about marijuana.

00:44:37.000 Marijuana gives you a choice.

00:44:39.000 And I do this in my show.

00:44:42.000 For the first time user, that feeling you get that kind of scares you is called an original thought.

00:44:50.000 It's a thought that comes from within.

00:44:54.000 It doesn't come from television or your teacher or your parents.

00:44:58.000 It's an original thought and enough people are coming around that have Those thoughts.

00:45:07.000 And you can tell by the consumers.

00:45:09.000 You can tell by how many people are buying Priuses, you know?

00:45:12.000 So, my view is very, very optimistic.

00:45:16.000 Very optimistic.

00:45:17.000 Because this, again, you know, this is the perfect planet we live on.

00:45:21.000 And we think we can damage it, but we can't.

00:45:26.000 You look at the tsunamis and you look at the cyclones, you know, nature wants to wipe us all out.

00:45:32.000 Nature will do that.

00:45:33.000 And if it gets to that point, that's exactly what'll happen.

00:45:37.000 But the people that are left, the people, you know, the meek shall inherit the earth, and that's us. 1.00

00:45:42.000 Well, I hope you're right.

00:45:43.000 I mean, I gotta tell you, the way I look at it, the ruling class really doesn't want an informed populace.

00:45:48.000 That's what they're working against.

00:45:50.000 And we don't have really a massive informed populace.

00:45:53.000 Like you said, we are the leaders.

00:45:55.000 We are the top of the food chain right now, trying to inform others, and that's why I think people need to see films like A.K.A.

00:46:01.000 Tommy Chong, American Drug War, you know, Alex Jones' End Game, my film, Loose Change, Final Cut, because they do open your mind, and you can share them with others, and then you can create a change in this country.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:13.000 And by the way, there would be no need for our activism If they never raided our warehouse, for instance.

00:46:23.000 If they never raided our warehouse, we would be limping along trying to convince people that there's a boogeyman.

00:46:31.000 But now, that's how it works, you know?

00:46:34.000 Good old Mary Beth Loose Cannon, you know? 1.00

00:46:36.000 She'd come in there, and she just keeps this AKA film alive and well, and it's gonna go Uh, all over the country, because when you tell people they're not supposed to see something, that's when they want to see it.

00:46:51.000 Absolutely.

00:46:52.000 Can I ask Josh?

00:46:53.000 We haven't heard from Josh yet.

00:46:54.000 Josh, can you tell us about Mary Beth's relationship to the drug czar, John Walters?

00:46:59.000 Um, uh, can you?

00:47:03.000 Well, I mean, she worked alongside of him.

00:47:06.000 I mean, wasn't, weren't the two of them kind of together in that Operation Pipe Dreams?

00:47:10.000 And I just think it's also interesting, maybe you could comment about how Operation Pipe Dreams.

00:47:14.000 Well, it just sounds like the Cheech and Chong movie that we never got to see.

00:47:19.000 Well, it was striking to me when it happened.

00:47:21.000 I mean, because Tommy and I go back quite a few years and when I saw the CNN crawl announcing it, because I knew Tommy and Cheech were reuniting and looking for the perfect publicity stunt, you know, and when I saw the crawl I thought, you know, this has got to be a publicity stunt.

00:47:39.000 And actually when I talked to Matt the other day, you know, and he sounded a little winded Sort of, you know, kind of shell-shocked, obviously, having had his warehouse storm-trooped by, you know, by these SWAT team commandos.

00:47:53.000 I thought this has got to be a publicity stunt.

00:47:57.000 You know, Matt engineered the perfect publicity stunt so that people would know about A.K.A.

00:48:01.000 Tommy Chong, because it's just too weird, you know?

00:48:04.000 And Eric Schlosser, the writer of Fast Food Nation, you know, says in the doc, he says, you know, what happened to Tommy under Operation Pipe Dreams, and even the name.

00:48:13.000 Operation Pipe Dreams.

00:48:15.000 It's like the worst paranoid Cheech and Chong fantasy come to life.

00:48:19.000 You know, and Tommy's recent renaming of Mary Beth Buchanan, Mary Beth Loose Cannon, you know, casts her perfectly as a Cheech and Chong villain in all of this.

00:48:29.000 That's classic.

00:48:31.000 And then the fact that Mary Beth Loose Cannon, I mean, it's perfect.

00:48:35.000 And speaking of fast food too, I mean, it's just once again, I mean, more people die as a result of fast food every year.

00:48:42.000 Far more than probably even heroin, cocaine, and all the terrible drugs.

00:48:46.000 Not that that doesn't make those right, but it's just the ability to make, to turn those types of drugs into the boogeyman that has made it such an attractive device for these globalists.

00:48:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:48:57.000 It seems like the elitists want to poison us in every way, shape, and form they possibly can from, you know, the over-the-counter drugs to the food we eat that are just so full of like fluoride and just Aspartame.

00:49:10.000 Just terrible, terrible things.

00:49:11.000 It's so processed.

00:49:13.000 I mean, Fast Food Nation is a pretty good flick for a fictional film.

00:49:19.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:49:24.000 I've only seen the movie with Greg Kinnear, but yeah, it's frightening.

00:49:28.000 It's frightening what we put in our body, and then you try to put something natural into your body, like marijuana, and you spend nine months in prison for it, and then you make another movie, and they take your movie from you, and then they say, well, we don't have to give you back that product for 15 years.

00:49:43.000 Unbelievable to me.

00:49:44.000 me.

00:49:44.000 Do you have any closing statements, Tommy?

00:49:46.000 Well, I just want everybody to get the AKH Tommy Chong.

00:49:54.000 You know, I can talk forever, but the film itself really speaks volumes and volumes and volumes because it's more than just, you know, how bad these people are acting.

00:50:07.000 What it really shows, and it's just like the 9-11 thing, you know, it shows how insane these people are.

00:50:15.000 And I think they've gone insane because of the food they're eating, you know.

00:50:20.000 These are victims of their own demise, in a sense, you know?

00:50:25.000 And probably the prescription drugs that they take.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, the prescription drugs and the alcohol they consume.

00:50:30.000 Look at Dick Cheney.

00:50:31.000 He's a good example, you know?

00:50:33.000 So, you know, check out the film and tell... I want everybody, you know, really, to just take a deep breath and just enjoy this universe.

00:50:43.000 Because one thing I learned in jail, man, Anything can happen to you at any time.

00:50:48.000 All right, can you guys just hold over for one more segment till the top of the hour?

00:50:51.000 Sure.

00:50:52.000 All right, awesome.

00:50:52.000 We'll be back with Tommy Chong and Kevin Booth.

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00:54:02.000 We are back with Tommy Chong and Kevin Booth as well as Josh Gilbert.

00:54:08.000 and uh... matt stevens of uh... a.k.a.

00:54:11.000 tommy chong you can get american drug war over at info wars dot com and tom you were just uh... finishing up a story about what you learned in prison after that i'd like you to talk about maybe the hypocrisy of those that smoke pot and i mean there's millions of people in this country that smoke pot i've heard a story that you used to hang out with schwarzenegger work out with him smoke pot with him but when you got picked up Uh, he didn't want anything to do with you and he wouldn't even talk to you.

00:54:37.000 So if you could talk about that after the prison story.

00:54:40.000 No, uh, Arnold wouldn't take my call.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, I've known Arnold since he got off the, you know, the boat.

00:54:45.000 In fact, we used to teach him bad English.

00:54:49.000 We'd teach him what to say to girls, you know, and then he'd get his face slapped and then he'd catch on.

00:54:54.000 But yeah, Arnold, I knew Pot was good for you for a few reasons.

00:55:00.000 Number one, every Mr. Universe for the when they were natural you know before they And before they got into steroids and even after they got into steroids they all that was the only thing they would do They would do pot they wouldn't do alcohol they wouldn't do anything else, but they would smoke pot and then and the most intelligent ones You know there's like a I won't name them, you know, but That meathead mentality in that you Yeah, yeah.

00:55:27.000 No, no, these are like guys with degrees, you know.

00:55:29.000 These are brilliant, brilliant people.

00:55:32.000 And they're so fussy about their diet.

00:55:35.000 They won't eat chicken if it's got a little bit of skin on it, you know.

00:55:40.000 They're very, very healthy.

00:55:42.000 They drink only water, you know.

00:55:44.000 They want only pure things in their body, but the only recreational relaxant they do is marijuana.

00:55:52.000 And then, I just found out this recently, but the National Basketball League, the NBA, the players said, you can test us for anything, steroids, alcohol, anything, but don't test us for marijuana.

00:56:05.000 If you do that, there won't be a league.

00:56:08.000 There won't be the NBA, because everybody in the NBA smokes pot.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, it's pretty well known.

00:56:13.000 I smoked, myself, I smoked many times with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

00:56:18.000 And Kareem extended his playing career seven years, because he was in such good shape.

00:56:27.000 And a lot of that you can attribute to marijuana.

00:56:30.000 I'm almost 70 years old and I've got the body of a 69-year-old.

00:56:34.000 Well, you always were in shape back in the day.

00:56:38.000 That was one of the big things.

00:56:40.000 Even you and Cheech were both in great shape.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, because that was my My drug of choice.

00:56:50.000 I'm calling it a drug now, because everybody wants to call it a drug, so I'll call it a drug now.

00:56:54.000 It's really a herb, and it's used for medicine for many, many, many years.

00:57:01.000 But yeah, I owe all my success to pot.

00:57:06.000 If it wasn't for pot, I would be some, I don't know what I'd be.

00:57:10.000 I'd probably be some day laborer in Canada.

00:57:13.000 But if it wasn't for pot, pot.

00:57:16.000 Just opened my brain, and even when I was in jail, the greatest thing about it is that I didn't have to smoke it, you know?

00:57:23.000 And they tried to catch me.

00:57:24.000 They tempted me.

00:57:26.000 They had people come up and offer me pot almost every day, and then they would drug test me because they thought for sure I was addicted, you know?

00:57:33.000 Uh-huh, and that you were gonna spend some more time in prison if you did that.

00:57:37.000 Yeah, they had me in the system, but as soon as I had to quit, I quit.

00:57:42.000 It was so easy.

00:57:43.000 It was the easiest thing I've ever done.

00:57:45.000 And all the other potheads in prison, they agreed with me.

00:57:48.000 But we found another plant in there called lion's ear.

00:57:52.000 And it grows, in fact, we grew it in prison.

00:57:56.000 And we used to smoke that, and that was a really nice sedative.

00:58:01.000 You know, put us to sleep real nice.

00:58:03.000 Gotcha.

00:58:03.000 Now, before we go, and I thank you guys for coming on, does it bother you that once Schwarzenegger gets into politics, he refuses to talk to you?

00:58:12.000 Well, you know, Arnold, I've seen Arnold, I've just seen Arnold a little while ago, you know, and he recognized me, and he taught me, he gave me a big hug, but that's the way politics work.

00:58:20.000 You know, that's the way, like Bill Clinton had to say he never inhaled.

00:58:23.000 Of course.

00:58:24.000 Alright, thank you so much, guys.

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01:00:12.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back.

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01:00:17.000 Wow, what an interview!

01:00:18.000 If you missed the first hour, you're going to want to go to InfoWars.com after the fourth hour today and check out the refeed, because we just had a blockbuster interview with Tommy Chong.

01:00:29.000 And what an interview indeed.

01:00:31.000 I was just so stoked to have him on.

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01:00:40.000 Really, A blockbuster interview.

01:00:43.000 I'm just honored that Alex let me take that interview.

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01:01:37.000 Switching gears I've got Jack McLam on the line of police and military against the New World Order.

01:01:45.000 And I've seen Jack several times on a few different documentary videos.

01:01:49.000 I think the first time I saw him was on Anthony Hilder's Illuminati.

01:01:54.000 Are you with me, Jack?

01:01:56.000 I'm here, brother.

01:01:57.000 How are you today?

01:01:58.000 Good to be with you today.

01:02:00.000 It's good to have you on.

01:02:01.000 Thank you.

01:02:02.000 Good to be here.

01:02:03.000 And of course you run JackMcLam.com and you've been at this for quite some time, haven't you?

01:02:08.000 Twenty-eight years, twenty-eight and a half years now.

01:02:12.000 What was it that really woke you up and you found your calling in this police and military against the New World Order?

01:02:20.000 Well, after the Vietnam War, I had gone into business and was out in Santa Monica, California, and a Hollywood producer gave me a copy of a book.

01:02:41.000 And that book was by W. Cleon Skousen, and I'm trying to think what the name of it was.

01:02:52.000 It's been a long year.

01:02:53.000 I guess it's been almost 30 years.

01:02:55.000 That's the late 60s when he gave me this book.

01:03:01.000 And basically it was after the reading of this book that you real started to turn your head?

01:03:07.000 Well, yes, I tried to give it to some two very big, powerful men who ran the Amway Corporation, who quoted and said all the time that they were American patriots.

01:03:23.000 And so I tried to give this book to them, and they shunned me.

01:03:28.000 They just shunned me and ran away from me.

01:03:30.000 And I knew them.

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01:03:34.000 that ran Amway Corporation, and then I found out that they were part of the globalist movement, you know, and that's why they told me to take it back to the Hollywood producer and give it back to him, don't give it to us, because it laid out the international criminal conspiracy because it laid out the international criminal conspiracy to put us under this Antichrist world government system.

01:03:57.000 And these two Amway top dogs were supposed to be Christians and patriots, and the way they treated me, I was real suspicious, And I looked up more about them and found out that they're part of the CFR and other organizations setting up this Antichrist world government system. 0.58

01:04:15.000 So it really shocked me.

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01:04:19.000 And then when I moved out to Phoenix, Arizona to become a law enforcement officer and went into the police academies there at 32 years of age, With 20 and 21-year-olds, I was very knowledgeable, much, much more knowledgeable about life than these young people, some of them still living at home with their mommies and daddies.

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01:08:01.000 All right, folks, we are back.

01:08:02.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.

01:08:03.000 I just want to remind everybody, you can grab American Drug War, the film featuring Tommy Chong, with even a Tommy Chong extra at the end of it.

01:08:13.000 Over at Infowars.com, we've got other great titles, such as Washington, You're Fired, of course, Loose Change, Final Cut, and Alex Jones' latest endgame, And soon enough, there's a new title to the mix.

01:08:24.000 It's going to be the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truthrise.

01:08:26.000 And remember, May 17th, May 18th, you can see that pre-screening over at the Alamo Draft House.

01:08:33.000 Alex himself will be there.

01:08:34.000 We're talking to Jack McLam and we're discussing how You know, at first you came across this information.

01:08:40.000 You tried to bring it to two very powerful people who you thought were Christians.

01:08:43.000 In fact, they were part of the ruling class, if you will, part of the CFR.

01:08:47.000 Then you moved on to the Arizona Police Department where you were a little bit older than everybody else.

01:08:54.000 Jack, you there?

01:08:56.000 Did we drop Jack?

01:08:57.000 Yes, I'm here.

01:08:59.000 Yes, it made a tremendous difference that I was 32 and these 20, 21 year old skulls full of mush We're in there, and everything they were told they believed by our superiors, but I realized that they were being lied to over and over again.

01:09:16.000 By the way, the name of that book was The Naked Capitalist by W. Cleon Skousen, and it was Rich DeVos and Jay Van Andel, the two top dogs that formed Amway, that are globalists, hardcore globalists, and that's why Amway did so well all over the world and moved so quickly.

01:09:36.000 But anyway, back to the academy.

01:09:38.000 When I went in the police academy at 32 years of age, I heard our superiors come in all the time.

01:09:47.000 And once again, it was important that I was in business after the Vietnam War because I learned how to sell people, you know, sell people products.

01:09:58.000 And I thought, well, a good relationship with the community Caring and being concerned and being a part of the community as a police officer would be very important to law enforcement work.

01:10:12.000 Well, when I was in the police academy, I heard things over and over again like, you're no longer citizens, you're an entity of government promoted above the citizens to better supervise them for their own good.

01:10:26.000 And these young skulls full of mush, 20, 21 year olds just grinned and loved it to hear that they were promoted above the citizens.

01:10:34.000 We're giving guns and nightsticks and everything, and they're going to be supervising the public, not serving them.

01:10:41.000 And then they'd come in and say, you can't trust the citizens out there to ever come to your aid.

01:10:46.000 You can only trust fellow police officers.

01:10:49.000 And over and over again, every few days, these superiors would come in and train these young people.

01:10:56.000 And what I saw happening, my friend, was they were Psychologically dividing the police officers from the public.

01:11:06.000 They were broadening the gap between citizen and law enforcement officer.

01:11:12.000 And I didn't understand why until at the end of our 16 weeks in the Regional Police Academy.

01:11:19.000 They came in and said, now one day you're going to be asked to do things you won't want to do and you won't like to do, but if you don't do these things, society will collapse.

01:11:29.000 And so it was an all 16 weeks of brainwashing of these young people.

01:11:34.000 Well, it didn't take on me very well because I knew that the things, many of the things we were being told were lies because I had life experience that these young people didn't.

01:11:46.000 And so that's why they don't like old cops.

01:11:49.000 Well, I mean, they're trying to brainwash you into thinking into separating you from civilians the same way they do in the military, where they bring these guys through basic training and they say, hey, you're part of this elite unit.

01:11:59.000 You have more power.

01:12:01.000 And yeah, like you said, the younger minds often take to that philosophy and they really don't see other people outside of their uniform as human beings anymore.

01:12:10.000 No, it's really a separation between the two.

01:12:14.000 And now that they're militarizing the police and setting up these Blackwater agencies, even here in Idaho, they're trying to set one up to send our police officers to learn to kill and maim and act like animals. 0.97

01:12:30.000 I shouldn't use the term animal because animals don't even act like that, but monsters.

01:12:35.000 And it's very, very serious today.

01:12:39.000 Twelve hours a day, and much of that time I'm communicating on the web with police officers and soldiers, and our job here is to educate our police and soldiers for the last 28 years as volunteers here.

01:12:53.000 And I see the change in the attitude of the police and the military towards the public today.

01:13:01.000 But one great thing is happening, brother, is that our soldiers are really getting angry Over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, as their family writes to them, as they allegedly are over there to bring democracy to those countries, and their families telling them how many freedoms are being taken away from us here at home.

01:13:26.000 And so the soldiers are reacting horribly to the fact that there's a big con job going on.

01:13:34.000 They're over there bringing democracy, allegedly.

01:13:37.000 Actually, they're not.

01:13:38.000 They're taking over those lands and the oil for the international criminal elite. 0.79

01:13:45.000 Many of them don't realize that, but they are very upset that we're losing our freedoms here at home.

01:13:52.000 As they're supposedly bringing freedom to the people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:13:56.000 Well, I think that's why they've set up things like Blackwater and CACI forces, is because in order to squelch down on the public here, in America, you need these privatized forces that don't have the ties at home, whereas a U.S.

01:14:09.000 soldier might find a problem sweeping a U.S.

01:14:12.000 home.

01:14:13.000 Somebody from Mexico or, you know, a prisoner, really, because they like to recruit them, too, isn't going to have that same problem.

01:14:20.000 And then you have Halliburton, a private corporation building FEMA camps in this country, then Halliburton leaves the country and goes to Dubai.

01:14:29.000 Well, if martial law is ever declared in this country, Halliburton's simply going to use these CACI forces, these Blackwater forces, to round people up and put them in these camps. 0.61

01:14:38.000 And it's going to be awfully hard for us to rise up against Halliburton if they're not even in the country, Jack.

01:14:43.000 That's right, brother.

01:14:44.000 That's right.

01:14:44.000 And that's why the Bush family bought two million acres down in South America.

01:14:50.000 All of these big international criminal elite are buying property out of this country so that they can get out of here when they put us under martial law because they don't want us to rise up and come after them.

01:15:03.000 So they're all buying outside this country right as we speak right now.

01:15:08.000 And same with Halliburton, getting the heck out of here.

01:15:12.000 That's of course old Cheney's.

01:15:15.000 Still, his business today, although he lies and says it's not, that he's not connected to it, but he is, he makes multi-millions a year off Halliburton.

01:15:25.000 And right now, the Carlisle Group, Cheney, Bush, and Osama Bin Laden are business partners in the Carlisle Group, and they're going around buying up all the American ammunition companies right now that make ammunition here for America.

01:15:41.000 To make sure that Americans can't get any. 0.97

01:15:43.000 Well, I feel like the public got a little too hip to the Carlyle Group because they just announced its bankruptcy about two weeks ago.

01:15:49.000 Yeah, sure.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:15:51.000 But we all know what that is.

01:15:52.000 The leaders of that corporation are getting out and they're putting it under a different name.

01:15:56.000 You know, those guys aren't going broke, let's be honest.

01:15:58.000 That's right.

01:15:59.000 They're just upset that it's gotten as much public attention as it has.

01:16:02.000 I think they were pretty uncomfortable when even Michael Moore talked about it.

01:16:06.000 In Fahrenheit 9-11.

01:16:07.000 I want to get into some of the police state news.

01:16:10.000 Just in on May 2nd, I don't know if you've heard this yet, but IBM has now joined Lockheed Martin's team for the FBI's next generation of identification.

01:16:19.000 And it's all about biometrics, and it's all about facial recognition capabilities.

01:16:24.000 And instead of just thumbprints, we're now going to have palm prints, Jack.

01:16:28.000 Isn't that great?

01:16:29.000 Yeah, that's wonderful.

01:16:30.000 Just wonderful.

01:16:32.000 Well, a lot of people don't know that IBM actually created the first tabulation machines, which were the first computers, for the Nazis so that they could do their roundup in Germany.

01:16:43.000 Yes.

01:16:44.000 Very true.

01:16:45.000 I mean, that's how they catalog people, folks.

01:16:47.000 They use tabulation machines.

01:16:49.000 That's how they mobilized their concentration camps, their work camps, their death camps. 0.63

01:16:54.000 And if you don't think that's coming here, why is it that IBM's joining Lockheed Martin, this super military industrial complex unit, in order to provide the next generation of identification?

01:17:07.000 It makes me sick.

01:17:08.000 That's right.

01:17:09.000 Let me tell you something that not many people know, too.

01:17:12.000 That it was the secret, super secret organizations, government organizations that promoted in America this tremendous rush to go out and get yourself tattooed.

01:17:27.000 Because when I was with the Phoenix Police Department, I was the intelligence officer for the Phoenix Police Department, I realized working with the FBI and other agencies that we loved To see people go out and get tattoos.

01:17:45.000 Because every time that person is stopped, the officer writes it down, takes a picture of the tattoo, and sends it in for their case file.

01:17:55.000 Even if it's just a private citizen on a traffic stop.

01:17:59.000 They love you to get tattoos.

01:18:01.000 And so the government secretly went out and started promoting all the young people getting tattoos. 0.99

01:18:06.000 And so they can record them.

01:18:09.000 And, uh, it's easy to see.

01:18:11.000 Now, fingerprints take a few minutes, you know, a little while to send to the computer and so forth.

01:18:17.000 But your tattoos are really an identification mark for individuals.

01:18:22.000 That's 100% true.

01:18:23.000 I've been incarcerated before and I've been processed.

01:18:25.000 And one of the first questions they ask you is, do you have any birthmarks or tattoos?

01:18:29.000 So if you don't have a birthmark, you know, and I actually have one on my arm that's pretty visible that they must love.

01:18:36.000 But you know, then they're like, well, what tattoos do you have?

01:18:37.000 And then you write down what tattoos are they searching?

01:18:40.000 Like, oh, you didn't put that one down.

01:18:42.000 And that is a lot easier identification than having to run somebody's fingerprint because You know, obviously you have to run that through a database, whereas if somebody gives you a name, you can immediately pull up that name and see what tattoos they have, check the tattoos on them, and it's either that person or it isn't.

01:18:57.000 That's right.

01:18:58.000 So, you know, like you said, they've been subversive for years now.

01:19:03.000 You know, obviously they try to promote things that are going to help them in pop culture, and tattoos are definitely one of them.

01:19:09.000 There's no real way to get rid of an armful of tattoos.

01:19:12.000 I mean, you can sit there with a laser surgery for years on end, but it's still going to have marks.

01:19:16.000 That's right, that's right.

01:19:18.000 If you take it off, then it leaves a mark and they know that that was a tattoo there at one time.

01:19:26.000 Alright, we're going to be back with Jack McLam of JackMcLam.com.

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01:24:13.000 And he never gives an answer But the fool on the hill sees the sun going down And the eyes in his head see the world spinning round All right, we are back on the Alex Jones Show. 0.99

01:24:35.000 I am Jason Burmas, subbing in for my final day. 0.96

01:24:38.000 In the final hour, we're actually going to be re-airing the Willie Nelson interview, and if you missed any of the first hour, boy did you miss out.

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01:25:01.000 I want to remind everybody that they can get a copy of American Drug War, The Last White Hope, over at InfoWars.com.

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01:25:55.000 All right, back to our guest, Jack McClam.

01:25:57.000 We're talking about, you know, the police state, overseas, the whole deal.

01:26:01.000 Where do you see us going, Jack, in the next six months to a year?

01:26:05.000 Do you see, you know, an invasion of Iran?

01:26:07.000 Do you see that happening after the Bush administration is out?

01:26:10.000 Obviously, we know that there isn't going to be much of a difference between the Bush administration, the McCain administration, the Clinton administration, Clinton 2, I should say, or the Obama administration.

01:26:20.000 They're all owned by the same interests, aren't they?

01:26:24.000 They certainly are.

01:26:25.000 They're totally owned and puppets, just like boy George Bush is.

01:26:30.000 Cheney's really our president because he gives the marching orders to boy George Bush, and he dances around and acts like a good little Christian boy.

01:26:44.000 But Cheney works, and so does Bush, actually, under the CFR.

01:26:50.000 The neocontrotskyites control the White House, the military, and we've heard this from many, many great American patriotic Jewish brothers and sisters in the military, that the neocontrotskyites control the military today, and we are going to war with Iran unless God stops it, because you and I can't do it. 0.90

01:27:13.000 We can't stop it.

01:27:15.000 But they've now sent the nuclear subs over there, U.S.

01:27:18.000 nuclear subs, and just sent a third force, flat top over to there, attack force.

01:27:28.000 And they're really revving it up to go to war with Iran.

01:27:34.000 And the sad thing about it is we've heard from our intel people here at our two police and military associations that they've pointed out 10,000 targets in Iran that they're going to bomb, 10,000 targets in Iran that they're going to bomb, 10,000 10,000 targets.

01:27:53.000 Now, the reason for doing this is that they made a mistake in Iraq and they didn't kill enough of the citizens. 0.96

01:28:01.000 And the citizens are rising up today because we've killed 1,200,000 men, women, and children over there.

01:28:08.000 And the citizens are the ones that are really the The fighters.

01:28:13.000 The Al-Qaeda, right? 0.54

01:28:14.000 The Al-Qaeda insurgents.

01:28:16.000 Yeah.

01:28:16.000 Everybody's labeled Al-Qaeda.

01:28:18.000 Whether you're just a person in a hut trying to defend your village or you're an actual terrorist, you're Al-Qaeda. 0.80

01:28:23.000 Yeah, but the intel people tell us that they hope to kill 50 million Iranians out of the 72 million Iranians that are over there so that they will not have this citizen standing up to fight our forces in Iran.

01:28:39.000 So, 50 million is on the target to kill with this 10,000 targets that they've designated there.

01:28:48.000 And these are not just nuclear reactors, I mean, 10,000 targets.

01:28:52.000 They're going to clean out the whole country. 0.99

01:28:54.000 And that's the purpose.

01:28:55.000 They want to turn it over to the neocontrotskyites and make this the place where they set up their world government out of Iraq. 0.80

01:29:05.000 It really is the final puzzle piece of all Eurasia, isn't it, Jack? 0.99

01:29:10.000 I mean, if they get Iran, they already have Afghanistan and Iraq and they're buddy-buddy with Saudi Arabia. 0.64

01:29:16.000 They can truly transform that whole region into whatever they like.

01:29:21.000 I want to talk about this on the other side.

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01:32:47.000 All right.

01:33:05.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.

01:33:07.000 I'm Jason Bermas sitting in.

01:33:08.000 My little website is loosechange911.com.

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01:33:24.000 We're talking to Jack McLam of Police and Military against the New World Order, Jack McLam.

01:33:31.000 And, Jack, you were just discussing how they want Iraq to be their new Babylon. 0.99

01:33:37.000 And that's what it is.

01:33:38.000 They're building... Our soldiers are telling us here at our two police and military associations that they're building 21 buildings there in the green zone that they're saying is an embassy.

01:33:51.000 Now, I've been... I grew up in Washington, D.C.

01:33:54.000 and been in a number of embassies.

01:33:56.000 It's one building.

01:33:58.000 And so what they're building here, according to our soldiers, is the military headquarters for taking over the whole Middle East and running this world government system out of Babylon, Iraq. 0.94

01:34:13.000 And if you read the Holy Scriptures, it says that the Middle East is where the world government will be operated from.

01:34:20.000 And so they're setting up this Antichrist system right there in Iraq, Babylon. 0.95

01:34:26.000 Uh, to control the whole Middle East and to set up this, uh, and by the way, Saudi Arabia is next after we take over Iran. 0.96

01:34:34.000 I've been told by sources that Saudi Arabia is next.

01:34:38.000 So they think they're our buddies, but no, they're going to get bombed into the stone age. 0.97

01:34:43.000 And we're going to, uh, our military is going to die over there too for these international criminals. 1.00

01:34:48.000 They want to take over the whole Middle East. 1.00

01:34:50.000 Well, I always felt that that's what they were set up for.

01:34:52.000 That's why they said 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, because they knew they were going to be able to fool the American people into going into Afghanistan.

01:35:01.000 After all, that was where bin Laden was, the main guy. 0.88

01:35:04.000 And they were going to be able to fool people into Iraq, because they had been demonized over the last decade or so.

01:35:09.000 Really, two decades almost, with Operation Desert Storm.

01:35:14.000 And all that in the early 90s, and I always felt after we had the landmass of Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq, we would have a landmass almost as large as Saudi Arabia, and we can use that as a launching base to invade that nation as well. 0.75

01:35:28.000 Sure, yeah, and that's what it's all about.

01:35:31.000 It's all happening in the Middle East. 1.00

01:35:32.000 That's why we ought to be very concerned about, especially Christians out there, funding this Antichrist system that's being set up. 1.00

01:35:41.000 So many Christians are saying, yeah, yeah, go get them! 1.00

01:35:43.000 Go get them! 0.99

01:35:44.000 They're a threat to Israel! 1.00

01:35:45.000 Go destroy all these Arab nations! 1.00

01:35:48.000 But really, folks, listen to me. 1.00

01:35:51.000 I'm a born-again Christian, but I've read the Bible myself.

01:35:55.000 I haven't just listened to my government preacher tell me about what's in it.

01:35:59.000 But we're helping set up the Antichrist world government system by going to war and taking over these nations. 0.90

01:36:07.000 For these Antichrist international criminal elite in this country. 0.73

01:36:11.000 So, shame on you Christians for funding and pushing these wars in the Middle East. 1.00

01:36:18.000 Well, the majority of Christians in this country still believe that George Bush is a man of Jesus Christ, when in fact he goes to the Bohemian Grove in Sonoma, California for two weeks out of the year to kick off the whole ceremony with

01:36:33.000 The cremation of care where they all dress up like pagans and have little hoods and do, you know, Babylonian rituals, really, like this hour-long ritual of a mock sacrifice in front of the owl god named Moloch, a Canaanite deity where people used to sacrifice their children to.

01:36:49.000 Very Christian indeed, Jack. 0.82

01:36:51.000 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:36:52.000 Let's take some callers.

01:36:54.000 The Skull and Bones Society is known as the satanic organization.

01:36:59.000 And Bush won't leave it because he's a Satanist.

01:37:02.000 And there's no question about that whatsoever.

01:37:06.000 Love the handsome little boys.

01:37:10.000 In the White House, remember that guy that checked in 250 times?

01:37:15.000 Talking about Jeff Gannon, right?

01:37:18.000 James Gafford?

01:37:19.000 Oh, of course, the military prosecutor.

01:37:22.000 And I've got a picture here of Bush hugging him and kissing him on the head.

01:37:27.000 Yeah, he kisses his bald head, because that's what I do to grown men that are supposed to be the press while I'm the president.

01:37:32.000 That's right. 0.99

01:37:34.000 Yeah, they're homosexual sodomites, and he had a website that they finally took down because it was embarrassing George Bush Jr. 0.99

01:37:46.000 Jeff Gannon had this website of him naked walking around on there. 0.99

01:37:49.000 Militarystuds.com!

01:37:50.000 Militarystuds.com.

01:37:52.000 Yeah, he was the madam.

01:37:53.000 It's really all very Christian, Jack.

01:37:55.000 Alright, let's take some callers.

01:37:56.000 We have Joe Bannister, the former IRS agent, on the line.

01:38:00.000 Joe, are you with us?

01:38:01.000 Hey, Jason, how are you?

01:38:02.000 Good, man.

01:38:03.000 How you doing?

01:38:04.000 Doing fine.

01:38:04.000 I was listening to the show and I heard that you had Jack on and I just wanted to, well, Jack was one of the people that helped enlighten me.

01:38:14.000 Remember, well, you probably still have a Jack the Vampire Killer 2000 book?

01:38:21.000 Oh yeah, we sure do.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, Brother Joe, it's so good to hear your voice.

01:38:26.000 Listen, I'd love to get you on my radio program sometime.

01:38:31.000 I'd love to be on, but I just wanted to say, you know, just as one living example, you know, of somebody, while I was still working for the IRS, I mean, some of the materials that I was given was Jack's materials, and, you know, it helped me understand and grasp how I was this little cog in this wheel of tyranny.

01:38:53.000 And, you know, I know that the people who have never heard Jack speak, Maybe you're new to, you know, Jason and all his work with 9-11.

01:39:01.000 I mean, they just think, well, you people are all a bunch of kooks.

01:39:05.000 I mean, you know, our government can be trusted, and what are you talking about?

01:39:08.000 And you just find out how you're helping this system to advance, and it's, you know, evil and tyrannical, and you're basically helping to, I think one of the founding fathers said, helping to rivet the chains on the necks of your fellow Americans.

01:39:27.000 Well, the bottom line is that Americans really have had it too good for too long on the outset.

01:39:32.000 They don't see this tyranny because it's not in their face every single day.

01:39:35.000 It's starting to get there.

01:39:36.000 I mean, the $4.50 a gallon gas, the fact that we have troops over in the Middle East dying all the time, but it's still on such a level that they're codified into this, you know, mall culture where the TV is going to tell me what to do, I'm going to follow the TV, I'm going to go to the mall, I'm going to have my car payments, I'm going to send my kids to college and everything's great, you know, the government isn't that bad.

01:39:58.000 Right, yeah.

01:39:59.000 And the other thing is that people also feel like they can't make a difference.

01:40:02.000 Well, Joe, you're one of those people out there that has made a difference.

01:40:06.000 Well, and I just, you know, whatever little difference I've made, it was just being on the shoulders of, like, you know, Jack saying that he's been at this for 28 plus years, and, you know, the work that you've done, Jason, and, you know, we really all just kind of Take a little bit from those that have come before us and continue the battle.

01:40:27.000 It's the people that aren't getting in there and helping to row the boat.

01:40:31.000 We need to get them on board as well so we can I'm with you, Joe.

01:40:38.000 Thank you so much for the call.

01:40:40.000 Thank you, brother.

01:40:41.000 You're a great American hero, Joe.

01:40:43.000 I'm just proud to serve with you.

01:40:45.000 He is a great American hero, and he's featured in America, Freedom to Fascism, one of the best tools that we have out there to wake people up, not only to the fraud of the Federal Reserve System, But the coming Real ID Act, and the uh, the chipping!

01:40:59.000 You know, I mean, Verichip is real.

01:41:01.000 It's the size of a grain of rice.

01:41:03.000 It was uh, approved for humans by the FDA in 2004, while Tommy Thompson was the head of Health and Human Services in this country.

01:41:10.000 He also happens to be on the board of Verichip.

01:41:12.000 Went on TV, said he was gonna take a chip.

01:41:14.000 When I confronted him last summer, he said, oh, I didn't take any chips yet, but it's the greatest thing since ever!

01:41:20.000 It's the best thing since breakfast!

01:41:21.000 You know, we can use it for the military for inventory, is what he told me.

01:41:25.000 And I sat there and I'm like, inventory?

01:41:27.000 What are you talking about?

01:41:28.000 If you want to put inventory on, say, a bomb or a weapon, you can easily put an RFID tag on the outset.

01:41:33.000 Something that's scannable.

01:41:35.000 You don't need a chip for that.

01:41:36.000 He's talking about soldiers, Jack.

01:41:38.000 Their inventory.

01:41:39.000 Well, let me tell you something, brother.

01:41:41.000 Our government is very, very scared.

01:41:44.000 This neocontrast controlled government of ours are very scared of special forces and our military.

01:41:51.000 That's why they just passed that bill to disarm our military, 200,000 that have PTSD and everything.

01:41:59.000 But also they're putting these chips in our special forces out there.

01:42:06.000 And what we've heard through very deep intel sources is these chips they're putting in special forces have an explosive chip part in that chip.

01:42:17.000 That puts poison into the system and kills that special forces officer if he joins in with the Patriots and tries to save America.

01:42:25.000 So, if any of these special forces guys think it's really neat to have that chip, because if you get lost behind enemy lines, they can find you easy.

01:42:36.000 But, secretly, in that chip, there's an explosive device that poisons you, and you die within just a couple minutes.

01:42:44.000 After that chip goes off and they can set off that chip by satellite.

01:42:49.000 So... I think it's also scary that they're chipping regular citizens. 1.00

01:42:52.000 I mean, it's one thing to be in the military, to be in special forces, to be kind of like, culled and brainwashed into taking it.

01:42:58.000 Right.

01:42:59.000 But right now they're proposing that anybody south of Mexico, the Mexican government wants to do away with passports and chip people to come into this country.

01:43:07.000 And the only person that's reported on it is Lou Dobbs on CNN for 40 seconds, one night.

01:43:13.000 So why isn't this a huge issue?

01:43:14.000 This isn't a voluntary chipping.

01:43:16.000 This is a mobility issue.

01:43:17.000 If you want to leave the country, you now have to get chipped.

01:43:20.000 And when we get into this North American Union, Jack, when they finally put it together with the United States, Mexico, and Canada, who's to say you're not going to have to have a chip to come into this country?

01:43:30.000 That's right.

01:43:31.000 Absolutely.

01:43:32.000 That's coming, brother.

01:43:33.000 That's certainly coming.

01:43:35.000 Well, that's one of the biggest things that got me involved in this movement.

01:43:37.000 When I first saw 9-11 and the Road to Tyranny in 2002 when I was doing my initial research into 9-11 and I saw the Jacobs family get on the Today Show and take government ships together and say how it made them feel safer from terror and they didn't mind taking it for this government.

01:43:55.000 I literally got sick to my stomach.

01:43:58.000 Yes, very true.

01:44:00.000 It's unbelievable.

01:44:01.000 Alright, let's jump to another phone call.

01:44:02.000 Let's go to Ed in Utah.

01:44:04.000 Ed, are you with us?

01:44:06.000 Hello?

01:44:07.000 Hey, how are you doing, Ed?

01:44:08.000 Pretty good.

01:44:09.000 Jack, it's been a long time since I met you at the Salt Palace back in the days of the Patriot Preparedness Expo.

01:44:16.000 It's been a while, brother.

01:44:17.000 Good to talk to you again.

01:44:18.000 It's good to talk to you.

01:44:19.000 I do want to address a couple of things here.

01:44:22.000 One of your Fellow patriots up in Idaho, I think you might know Mark Glenn from the American Free Press newspaper.

01:44:30.000 Yes, right.

01:44:32.000 Mark Glenn wrote something recently.

01:44:35.000 He might have an answer about this Iranian situation that he wrote about in the American Free Press concerning Russia and Putin might be the only bulwark over there against an invasion.

01:44:46.000 Jack, what do you think?

01:44:48.000 Yes, yes, we've heard this.

01:44:50.000 There are intel people that Putin Is really ticked off about this war coming up with America against Iran.

01:45:01.000 And Putin is deeply involved, Russia is deeply involved in Iran in business dealings and so forth.

01:45:08.000 So there's a very good likelihood that we can find ourselves at war with Russia. 0.87

01:45:15.000 Not just a cold war either, but a hot war with Russia if we go into Iran.

01:45:21.000 After all, the international criminal elite want World War III.

01:45:26.000 So if Russia will get involved in a war with us over Iran, this helps them push for their goal for World War III. 0.90

01:45:36.000 What they're trying to do, according to our intel people, is cause the Muslims across the world, 1,300,000,000,000, to stand up and go to war. 0.54

01:45:48.000 And that's a lot of soldiers out there.

01:45:52.000 But anyway, they want them to stand up and go to war all across the world so that there will be blood in the streets all across the world.

01:46:01.000 And the people across the world will cry out for world peace, and they can just shuttle us right under the communist-controlled United Nations system for world peace. 0.69

01:46:16.000 And if you remember, back during the time that Russia was around, when they would say, peace, peace, peace, it meant no opposition to communism.

01:46:25.000 That was peace.

01:46:26.000 So when these guys say world peace, it means no opposition to the Antichrist world government system, is what world peace is going to be.

01:46:35.000 But it's going to be the super rich and the super poor, no middle class, just like it was in Russia. 0.94

01:46:41.000 And so, yeah, they want World War III, so if Russia will get involved in the war when we go into Iran, they're going to have a big smile on their face because they want to promote this world government system and have the people cry out for peace across the world after enough of their countrymen are killed and go into this world government system. 0.81

01:47:04.000 I couldn't agree with you more, Ed.

01:47:06.000 Thank you for the call.

01:47:07.000 I mean, I want people to understand out there, too, this is not really our term for it.

01:47:12.000 The New World Order has been professed throughout centuries now.

01:47:15.000 I mean, we have H.G.

01:47:16.000 Wells writing a book called The New World Order, where he states that a lot of good people are going to have to die to bring this in.

01:47:22.000 Hitler spoke of the New World Order.

01:47:24.000 George Bush, Sr.

01:47:25.000 spoke of the New World Order by name.

01:47:27.000 Henry Kissinger spoke of the New World Order by name.

01:47:29.000 I have several clips of Bill Clinton.

01:47:31.000 He knows He knows damn well what the New World Order is, and he says he's promoting the New World Order.

01:47:36.000 Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of the UK, Gordon Brown, in front of the CBI just before he became the Prime Minister of the UK, did like a five-minute speech just on the New World Order, talked about the economics of the New World Order, you know, the policies in the New World Order, where the UK would be in the New World Order.

01:47:54.000 I mean, It was actually the front page of their papers the next day.

01:47:58.000 You know, Brown calls for a new world order.

01:48:00.000 We've had the Pope call for a new world order.

01:48:02.000 When are people going to wake up, Jack?

01:48:05.000 Well, we've learned through our Catholic brothers and sisters in the military that Pope John Paul II was the leader in going across the world.

01:48:16.000 And we have two videotapes, as a matter of fact, of him talking to witches and snake handlers, telling them that He wants them in his world religion.

01:48:26.000 So it's the Roman Popage system setting up the world religion under the Antichrist, and the communist Zionist Gentiles that call themselves Jews in Israel, and here in America they're called neocons, but they're actually Gentiles that call themselves Jews. 0.95

01:48:45.000 Just like in Revelations, God said at this time there would be people calling themselves Jews that were not.

01:48:52.000 And they're setting up the political world government system. 0.64

01:48:55.000 At the time, the Catholics, this rat-slinger, the new Pope, is doing the same thing now that John Paul II was doing. 1.00

01:49:05.000 And I have two videos up here.

01:49:07.000 One called is the Pope Catholic, and the other one, Vatican Rising, that shows Pope John Paul II going around across the world Telling snake handlers and the worshippers of Shiva, taking the mark of Shiva in his forehead and telling them they don't need Jesus Christ because they have their own path to heaven, and inviting them into the world religion.

01:49:29.000 So, yes, there is two things going on at once.

01:49:33.000 World politics, world religion, and world politics coming together to control, so that the people that need that aphrodisiac of religion Well, I feel like they use three major things to divide and conquer, and that is race, politics, and religion.

01:49:55.000 And, like, as you said, you know, when you have the Pope, who's supposed to be the head of the Catholics, going around promoting a one-world religion, there is obviously an ulterior motive.

01:50:05.000 Sure.

01:50:07.000 It's very scary stuff.

01:50:08.000 It is.

01:50:09.000 It's very sad, too, because I see the top People in the Baptist Church, the Lutheran Church, the Methodist Church, they are globalists, the very top people and they're working to put us under this world religion too.

01:50:23.000 And they're having great success at it by telling the ministers in seminaries that misinterpretations of Romans 13 that we must obey everything government tells us to do.

01:50:35.000 I want to talk Romans 13 when we come back in the final segment, Jack.

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01:54:12.000 I am Jason Bermas sitting in.

01:54:13.000 I just want to remind everybody to tune in to the InfoWars.com refeed after the program is over.

01:54:20.000 And you can hear my interview in the first hour with Tommy Chong.

01:54:23.000 He discusses not only the American Drug War picture, but AKA Tommy Chong.

01:54:27.000 And yes folks, 9-11, he doesn't buy the official story either.

01:54:31.000 And we need more and more people like this because unfortunately in this country, People gravitate towards celebrity and not towards scientists or public officials.

01:54:40.000 So that's why it's important for people like Rosie O'Donnell to come out. 0.96

01:54:43.000 It's important for people like Willie Nelson to come out.

01:54:45.000 And it's important for people like Tommy Chong to come out.

01:54:47.000 So please check that out on the other side.

01:54:51.000 Jack, we're talking Romans 13, and I had a guest on discussing it yesterday, and basically what has happened is FEMA has went around the country, sent officials to these local churches, talked to pastors, and put them on a payroll to tell people that Romans 13 should be followed, and that indeed the government is God, and if they come and they round us up, we should go with them.

01:55:14.000 You with me, Jack?

01:55:16.000 Maybe I'll let Jack go.

01:55:17.000 Almost 30,000 now, brother.

01:55:19.000 You're absolutely correct.

01:55:21.000 By the way, you did a great job with Tommy Chung.

01:55:24.000 I enjoyed that very much.

01:55:25.000 You're listening for the show.

01:55:28.000 But anyway, yes, over 30,000 pastors now, Christian pastors, have signed on to convince their flock of the lie that Romans 13, when they went to the seminaries, Since the 1900s, we've had several communists tell us that the seminaries in America were taken over by God's enemies in the early 1900s.

01:55:54.000 And they've taught the ministers, the prospective ministers, to come out and tell the people that all government's of God, so we must obey all government.

01:56:03.000 Well, when you have a totally evil government, it goes against Psalms 94, 16.

01:56:10.000 God says, rise up against the evildoers and stand up against the workers of iniquity. 0.99

01:56:15.000 And when you sit back and let Satan take over our government as it has today, And sit back and say what the other lie the minister told you is that you're going to be raptured out of here next week, so who cares?

01:56:30.000 Just sit back, keep your head down, don't make the government mad, let Satan take over, and we're leaving here next week.

01:56:37.000 Well, Billy Graham's been saying that for 75 years, and we're still here!

01:56:42.000 And so, if you really read the Scriptures, you'll find out Jesus Christ Himself said the ones that are going to be raptured out are the evil ones.

01:56:51.000 And I could show you where that's at in the Bible.

01:56:54.000 I can't think of the chapter right now in verse.

01:56:56.000 It's Luke somewhere in there.

01:56:58.000 But he tells his disciples that the evil ones are going to be raptured out, and the eagles are going to eat their flesh.

01:57:06.000 The dead bodies will be laying out there, and the eagles are going to eat their flesh.

01:57:10.000 Right in Luke.

01:57:11.000 And so, we've been lied to, and brother, The Christians have totally withdrawn from this battle that God told us to be in, beyond the field of battle against his enemies, and occupy until his return. 0.97

01:57:25.000 Well, it's been said, for evil to succeed, all it takes is good men to do nothing, and that's what they're encouraging.

01:57:30.000 That's what we've done.

01:57:31.000 Exactly, is good men do nothing.

01:57:32.000 And you said 30,000 pastors.

01:57:34.000 I really want people to grasp that.

01:57:36.000 I mean, 30,000 people would be enough, but these pastors are in charge of flocks in the hundreds and thousands.

01:57:42.000 I mean, we're talking up to maybe 3, 4, 5 million people that believe this that are just going to go along willingly when these are people that should be fighting by our side against our globalist enemies.

01:57:54.000 You know, these guys are not Christians.

01:57:56.000 I want to reiterate that one more time.

01:57:57.000 They go to Bohemian Grove.

01:57:59.000 It is not a Christian party up there.

01:58:02.000 Thank you so much for spending an hour with me.

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02:00:07.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

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02:00:17.000 Just one more hour for you, then we're gonna be replaying The Alex Willie Nelson interview again.

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02:00:41.000 We have Wayne Madsen of the Wayne Madsen Report with us.

02:00:45.000 Rather honored to have him.

02:00:45.000 It's the first time I've spoken with him.

02:00:48.000 And Wayne, I really, I want to get your take.

02:00:50.000 On this Jack Abramoff relationship to the D.C.

02:00:54.000 madam, I've read the article.

02:00:56.000 I'd like you to go into depth on that.

02:00:59.000 Well, that relationship goes through Baltimore.

02:01:05.000 Gene first had problems with the government.

02:01:08.000 It was as a result of an investigation started by the Internal Revenue Service office in Baltimore.

02:01:17.000 What was really going on in Baltimore was that the U.S.

02:01:20.000 Attorney for Maryland, Tom DiBaggio, was looking into the involvement of high-level Republicans in Maryland and in Baltimore using public funds to pay for the escorts who work for Gene Palfrey's Pamela Martin & Associates.

02:01:39.000 DiBaggio never targeted Palfrey.

02:01:42.000 As a matter of fact, he obviously saw her as a very Uh, potentially good witness to prosecute the people he was going after for this malfeasance with public funds.

02:01:57.000 One of the guys he nailed was Ed Norris, the police commissioner for Baltimore, who the Republican Governor of Maryland, Bob Ehrlich, then made head of the Maryland State Police.

02:02:08.000 So here you have Baltimore's top cop and then Maryland's top cop.

02:02:13.000 being a customer of Pamela Martin.

02:02:16.000 It's at that point in time when he's looking at that, that the IRS begins their investigation of Gene Palfrey, and also it involves the Postal Inspection Service.

02:02:26.000 And that started this whole process where, you know, Gene was the one who was being gone after, but Ehrlich was left alone.

02:02:36.000 Uh, DeBaggio did nail Ed Norris, who did, uh, did some time in jail, but is now a conservative talk show host in Baltimore and a real darling of the right wing up there.

02:02:46.000 Uh, but we also have to remember, uh, uh, Abramoff.

02:02:50.000 Abramoff, uh, was a resident of Silver Spring, Maryland.

02:02:54.000 Uh, he was very close to Ehrlich.

02:02:56.000 He gave money to Ehrlich.

02:02:57.000 Uh, some of this money was coming from Israeli sources.

02:03:00.000 That's a violation of the law right there.

02:03:02.000 You can't be a political candidate and take money from foreign sources.

02:03:08.000 It was also coming from some of Abramoff's African clients, including the government of Gabon, which is a dictatorship.

02:03:17.000 But we now know that Shirlington Limousine, which was ferrying around escorts for Duke Cunningham and CIA Director Porter Goss of the Watergate hotel in the Westing Grand Hotel here in Washington.

02:03:30.000 Sherlington Limousine was ferrying around Pamela Martin escorts.

02:03:34.000 Of course, we know what happened to Duke Cunningham.

02:03:37.000 We know what happened to the two lobbyists he was dealing with, Mitchell Wade with MZM, and Brent Wilkes, who was another San Diego-based contractor.

02:03:49.000 I know from Jean that a person named Brent called her consistently from Poway in California to arrange for these escorts in Washington.

02:04:02.000 And, of course, Poway was the headquarters for Brent Wilkes, the head of these various defense contractors, and Brent Wilkes was convicted on 13 counts of, Of, uh, of, uh, fraud and wire fraud and what have you.

02:04:20.000 Uh, he was involved with, um, with, with all these individuals.

02:04:24.000 Well, when we get back, I want to, I want to discuss Porter Goss a little bit because not only was he the head of the CIA, but he was one of the co-chairs of the initial 9-11 investigation by Congress.

02:04:33.000 And he happened to be meeting on the morning of 9-11 with General Mahmoud Ahmed, uh, and Bob Graham.

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02:07:54.000 All right, we are back with Wayne Mattson of the Wayne Mattson Report.

02:07:58.000 And Wayne, I just discussed a little bit about Porter Goss, and why I think that Porter Goss is so important is not only his ties to the initial congressional investigation in 9-11, not only his ties to General Mahmoud Ahmed of the ISI, who supposedly wired $100,000 to ADA just before the attacks, according to the official version, that would be one-fifth Well, he brought in his own cronies into the CIA.

02:08:23.000 Porter Goss had been a clandestine officer for the CIA back in the 60s, and for some reason he abruptly leaves the CIA, resurfaces in Florida, where he starts to get active in local politics, and is eventually elected as a member of the House of Representatives.

02:08:49.000 And then becomes the Chairman of the House, you know, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the oversight body for the CIA, which, you know, he was always interested in going back to the CIA as Director.

02:09:02.000 And there was a very unusual and suspicious suicide in 2000.

02:09:09.000 John Millis, who had been the Executive Director under Goss, Had some sort of breaking with him, and they found Goss supposedly shot to death with a shotgun at a seedy motel in Fairfax, Virginia.

02:09:23.000 You know, he had another suspicious suicide.

02:09:26.000 So we not only have Gene Palfrey, we have many, many suspicious quote-unquote suicides here.

02:09:32.000 And this one, of course, was John Millis, who had been a 13-year veteran of both the CIA and worked for a short time at the NSA, the National Security Agency.

02:09:41.000 Millis had been involved with support of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

02:09:46.000 The same people, we're told, mushroomed into and morphed into Al-Qaeda later.

02:09:53.000 So there's a lot of connections.

02:09:55.000 Of course, Goss would have never, never looked at these issues when he was conducting his investigation in 9-11, and hopefully in an Obama administration.

02:10:06.000 He's already said, Obama said his first act will be to have his new Attorney General investigate the Bush administration for any past crimes, and we could only hope that they would include the real story about what happened on 9-11 and who the real perpetrators were.

02:10:22.000 Well, I'm pretty skeptical about anything an Obama administration is going to do, but I will say this, as the Bush administration leaves, I think that we are going to see the release of a lot more documents.

02:10:33.000 I mean, even Joseph Biden Who is well aware of this Pakistani funding has actually talked about it on camera and then said it was classified.

02:10:41.000 Also talked about able danger and how there be a lot more coming out about that as the administration leaves.

02:10:47.000 But I don't see a huge amount of information coming out.

02:10:51.000 I see it trickling out.

02:10:53.000 I saw that the FBI initial report has finally been released to the public a couple months ago.

02:10:58.000 I'm hoping that those initial 27 pages that were redacted from the congressional report will also become public.

02:11:04.000 But I'm not that optimistic.

02:11:07.000 Why don't you talk about his connections?

02:11:09.000 Who else is Goss connected to that makes him such a prominent target?

02:11:15.000 Well, Goss, of course, goes back to the 60s.

02:11:17.000 He was working at the CIA station in Miami.

02:11:21.000 And we now know that the CIA station in Miami was basically in ground zero for the operations being conducted against Fidel Castro in Cuba.

02:11:33.000 It's also where the plot to kill President Kennedy was first.

02:11:37.000 Kennedy was first going to be hit in Miami, and they had to change it later to Dallas because the Miami operation wasn't going to be successful.

02:11:48.000 So we have Goss's dirty fingerprints all over that time period where we saw some of the people that came out of that CIA operation.

02:11:58.000 Also included, some people who were later caught burglarizing Democratic National Headquarters at the Watergate.

02:12:04.000 Again, we go back to the Watergate.

02:12:06.000 Goss's poker parties with the Shirlington Lima beans bringing over the escorts, Pamela Martin escorts, was the Watergate. 0.54

02:12:15.000 The break-in was at the Watergate.

02:12:17.000 So here we, you know, one thing about these guys is that they very rarely change the playbook.

02:12:23.000 The playbook remains the same.

02:12:25.000 Only, and sometimes the faces change, but in the case of Porter Goss, the same Porter Goss who was at the CIA station in Miami plotting to kill Castro and invade Cuba, the same Porter Goss that may have had his fingerprints, at least with people involved with the assassination of President Kennedy, and the same Porter Goss that seems to have his fingerprints on 9-11.

02:12:47.000 Thank you so much for going over that for the listeners.

02:12:49.000 That really shows you how these intelligence spooks really keep through history and they get away with it.

02:12:56.000 It looks like this guy's going to get away with it, especially now that Palfrey is gone.

02:13:00.000 Do you think there's a chance that her list is ever going to come to light of who her customers actually were?

02:13:06.000 Well, we've got a couple.

02:13:07.000 One list we have, of course, is the phone records, which he made public.

02:13:10.000 Unfortunately, we only were able to call a few people off of that list, including Louisiana Republican Senator David Vitter.

02:13:18.000 And I would note that yesterday, the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its ethics investigation of Vitter.

02:13:25.000 Because Palfrey committed suicide.

02:13:25.000 The reason given?

02:13:27.000 Well, that has nothing to do With whether Vitter violated Senate ethics rules.

02:13:33.000 The mere fact that the so-called madam killed herself, I don't understand how the Senate can drop the charges against Vitter.

02:13:41.000 Again, it seems like her quote-unquote suicide seemed to be very convenient for a lot of people, including people like Vitter and others.

02:13:50.000 And as I already reported, Cheney was also one of her clients when he was the head of Halliburton in the 90s.

02:13:57.000 But, you know, these people are, you know, insidious.

02:14:03.000 Goss is just one of many.

02:14:05.000 Abramoff is another one.

02:14:07.000 Of course, he's doing time in prison, but... Abramoff is really their sacrificial lamb, is he not? 0.85

02:14:13.000 He's a guy that they can throw out into the public that people won't dig into too far.

02:14:18.000 He'll serve a few years in prison and then he'll be let go.

02:14:21.000 I'm sure he's high up on Bush's commutation list at the end of this term.

02:14:28.000 I think we'll see Abramoff leave prison.

02:14:31.000 I think we'll see quite a few others.

02:14:33.000 Probably Jonathan Pollard, the Israeli spy, will be let out, and I think we'll see many others.

02:14:38.000 Well, if Jonathan Pollard's let out, that'll be tough for me to believe, but I can see it.

02:14:42.000 I mean, they've just pardoned whoever they feel they want to.

02:14:45.000 One of Abramoff's ties that I found really interesting was the tie to the gambling cruise ship off the coast of Florida.

02:14:53.000 You want to talk about that a little bit?

02:14:55.000 Well, yeah.

02:14:56.000 Abramoff purchased some cruise casino boats from a Florida businessman named Gus Boulis.

02:15:03.000 And then Boulis later said, hey, there was some hanky-panky involvement.

02:15:07.000 In this deal, he wanted to get his cruise boats back, but Fulis was gunned down, gangland assassination style, on the street in broad daylight in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

02:15:19.000 We do know from certain reports that two of the 9-11 hijackers, Atta and possibly al-Shahi, were spotted on Abramoff Sun Cruise boat that Abramoff owned out of Madeira Beach, Florida, near Tampa.

02:15:43.000 This was just a few days before 9-11.

02:15:45.000 So this notion that these were these Islamist radicals praying to Allah before they hijacked planes, split-throats, and put them in the buildings is nonsensical because I also know that the hijackers who hijacked a United 93 out of Newark the night before, or at a strip club in Wayne, New Jersey, sticking dollar bills into G-strings.

02:16:08.000 So these don't sound like the Muslims, at least the ones portrayed in the movie, about United 93 that were shaving themselves, their body hair, and praying to Allah and reading out of the Quran before they hijacked the airplanes. 0.90

02:16:21.000 It's just total, it's just more nonsense.

02:16:24.000 It was created, As almost like a Hollywood type disinformation campaign.

02:16:30.000 These guys, Ata was known to be a drug mule for people probably associated with U.S. 0.94

02:16:36.000 intelligence.

02:16:37.000 He had been cited often at the Officers Club at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

02:16:43.000 He was an Egyptian Air Force officer.

02:16:48.000 So the mere fact that he had been working alongside U.S.

02:16:53.000 intelligence assets For years should have told us that, all of us, that what we were told about 9-11 and what was the actual case of 9-11 are two entirely different things.

02:17:05.000 Well, I'd also like to point out that Atta also, through a Freedom of Information Act request, we know that a Mohammed Atta attended the Maxwell Air Force Base Academy.

02:17:13.000 I mean, that's admitted.

02:17:14.000 They just don't say whether it is the Mohammed Atta.

02:17:17.000 I mean, give me a break.

02:17:18.000 I mean, we have all these eyewitness accounts that he always had money, he always had cocaine, he enjoyed the company of strippers, he's on gambling boats, and not only that, but he was reported as one of these guys that was going to hijack a plane by James Woods, the actor, and another woman on the airplane, Uh, you know, he went on Fox News and talked about this.

02:17:36.000 A couple months before 9-11, he said he spotted Otta and three of the other hijackers in jumpsuits, thought they were gonna hijack the plane, thought so, so much, that after he got off the plane, he and a stewardess actually filed a report with the FAA, but apparently it was never followed up on, Wayne.

02:17:51.000 Of course not, and we know all this with Zacharias Moussaoui, Colleen Rowley wanted to get a search warrant up in Minneapolis for his computer. 0.86

02:18:01.000 It was stymied by the FBI in Washington.

02:18:04.000 It's quite, quite clear what happened.

02:18:06.000 These people say, well, it was fault of the U.S.

02:18:11.000 intelligence.

02:18:11.000 No.

02:18:13.000 There were elements of U.S.

02:18:14.000 intelligence and U.S.

02:18:15.000 law enforcement that aided and abetted in the worst crime we've seen in this country probably ever.

02:18:23.000 And, of course, we're told to believe the 9-11 Commission report, which was engineered by Phil Delacalle.

02:18:30.000 Now we know that Karl Rove influenced that report.

02:18:33.000 The original chairman was supposed to be Henry Kissinger.

02:18:36.000 The biggest American war criminal of this and the last century, and we're supposed to believe this nonsense.

02:18:44.000 Bill Delacalle, by the way, comes from the Miller Institute out of the University of Virginia, and the Miller Institute has made its name in trying to debunk Anyone who would question the official version of what happened to President Kennedy in Dallas, they stand by the Warren Commission when everybody else with an ounce of sanity knows that the Warren Commission report, just like the 9-11 Commission report, was mere fantasy.

02:19:08.000 Absolutely.

02:19:09.000 One of the things I like to point out is that although it's very hyped that Able Danger identified Atta prior to 9-11, they don't talk about the other three hijackers that they also identified.

02:19:19.000 And they identified Khalid Al-Madar and Nawaf Al-Zahami.

02:19:22.000 Well, it turns out those two guys are living with and renting from a tested FBI informant.

02:19:27.000 And then when it comes time for them to talk to officials, the FBI is thwarting that, so nobody gets to talk to this informant.

02:19:34.000 I want to get your take on that on the other side.

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02:24:43.000 It's the Alex Jones Show, and I want to remind folks that Alex is going to be screening his latest picture, The 9-11 Chronicles Part 1, Truth Rising, over at the Alamo Draft House, off South Lamar, I believe.

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02:25:10.000 I also want to let people know that I interviewed Tommy Chong in the first hour, just an explosive interview about the drug war and 9-11, and you can listen to that on the refeed over at Infowars.com after the fourth hour.

02:25:23.000 We're talking to Wayne Madsen.

02:25:24.000 And, uh, Wayne, I brought up the Black Ops program, Able Danger, how, you know, they were working with CENTCOM, they identified four of the hijackers prior to 9-11, they tried to go to the FBI over a dozen times, they were thwarted, of course the attacks on 9-11 happened, then Anthony Schaefer goes and talks to Philip Zelikow prior to the 9-11 commission report, and it doesn't make the report, does it?

02:25:47.000 Why do you think that is?

02:25:49.000 Well, I mean, we do know that there were all kinds of intelligence reports prior to 9-11, not just from our own intelligence agencies, but from a number of foreign intelligence agencies that all seem to have been ignored.

02:26:04.000 We heard from probably intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies in over 30 countries that tried to tell us something was up, including Russia.

02:26:15.000 And these were all conveniently ignored.

02:26:18.000 I think it's obvious that what these foreign agencies and our own agencies found out was there was this plan afoot to create what the neocons called a new Pearl Harbor so they could push their sordid agenda, which ever since 9-11, that's all we've seen.

02:26:36.000 We've seen the erosion of the U.S.

02:26:38.000 Constitution, we've seen Torture now adopted as a policy by the administration, renditioning, kidnapping, political assassinations, a whole host of things that's really the hallmark of a fascist nation.

02:26:58.000 Well, one of the things that really ties it in for me is J. Michael Springman's testimony.

02:27:04.000 He was one of the heads of the consulate in Jeddah back in the late 80s, early 90s, and when he would go through and deny these guys visas, they would get let in through national security purposes by his supervisors.

02:27:18.000 Now, at first he thought this was just visa fraud, somebody in his agency taking kickbacks.

02:27:22.000 When he got back to the States, he said he talked to people within the CIA who told him this was part of an ongoing program To funnel in Islamic militants into this country for their asset, Osama Bin Laden, and then you find out that a lot of these hijackers, or these supposed hijackers, were funneled in through the consulate at Jeddah!

02:27:41.000 Right, right.

02:27:41.000 And this goes back, of course, to the time when the U.S.

02:27:45.000 supported the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviets, and were giving them, you know, a stinger surface there, portable missile launchers, the Saudis were giving them the money, The Israelis and the Egyptians were giving them the weaponry.

02:28:00.000 And, again, we see the same.

02:28:03.000 Who do we see with their fingerprints all over 9-11?

02:28:07.000 Well, the same group.

02:28:08.000 We see, you know, Adda's an Egyptian.

02:28:11.000 The others are Saudis, Saudi money, and, of course, Israeli art students and movers running all over not only the country in close proximity of these Saudi hijackers, but also seen with a camera, but also seen with a camera, Absolutely, and I'm actually covering that in my next film.

02:28:33.000 before the first plane hit.

02:28:34.000 So obviously they had advanced knowledge.

02:28:36.000 Absolutely.

02:28:36.000 I'm actually covering that in the next film.

02:28:38.000 The only people in the trade center.

02:28:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:28:41.000 And I'm actually covering that in my next film.

02:28:42.000 You're talking about urban moving systems, the art ring, and then obviously their connections to Amdocs and Converse, which is really how they accumulate all this intelligence.

02:28:53.000 And when I saw that Fox News piece, which was a four-part series, they really break it down how this spy ring was able to infiltrate the most upper echelons of government And there's an article out there that you may not be aware of.

02:29:06.000 It's called, uh, Digital Moles Inside the White House.

02:29:09.000 And it really goes through how these hijackers supposedly had every security code ever for the National Security Agency, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the FBI, the NSA, on the morning of 9-11.

02:29:19.000 And that's where these threats to Air Force One and others came from.

02:29:22.000 Wayne Mattson, I thank you so much for joining us this half an hour.

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02:33:27.000 It is the Alex Jones Show.

02:33:29.000 I am Jason Burma sitting in for Alex.

02:33:31.000 It's almost come to a close, folks.

02:33:33.000 Alex will be back on Monday.

02:33:34.000 He may even be doing a Sunday show.

02:33:35.000 I'm not quite sure.

02:33:37.000 The fourth hour is going to be a replay of his famous interview with Willie Nelson, but you're going to want to go to InfoWars.com after that if you missed any of the first hour, because I interviewed Tommy Chong, not only on the American Drug War picture and AKA Tommy Chong, Hey, I'm doing great.

02:33:53.000 Thanks for having me on the show today.

02:33:54.000 at Infowars.com.

02:33:55.000 But we also talk 9-11 truth, and obviously Tommy himself has his questions.

02:34:00.000 We also talk Schwarzenegger a little bit at the tail end of that section.

02:34:04.000 But we have another guest on right now.

02:34:06.000 We have Mike from NaturalNews.com on with us.

02:34:10.000 How are you, Mike?

02:34:11.000 Hey, I'm doing great.

02:34:12.000 Thanks for having me on the show today.

02:34:14.000 No problem, man.

02:34:15.000 Hey, well, it's really nice to be here.

02:34:17.000 And today in Congress, you know, they're talking about this potential ban on direct-to-consumer drug advertising I know your listeners know very well that drug advertising is a massive marketing scam.

02:34:30.000 And maybe, finally, for the first time in a long time, we might have a possibility of banning those ads, or at least putting a moratorium on them for the first three years.

02:34:39.000 Wouldn't that be interesting?

02:34:40.000 It would be, and these are the ads that come up on TV, and they say, oh, do you have trouble sleeping?

02:34:45.000 They list off like 47 different symptoms of anything, and then they go, you need this drug.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:34:53.000 Now, many people may not know that drug advertising was illegal in the United States until about 1997 or 98 when it really went into effect.

02:35:03.000 And since then, drug companies have massively escalated their drug advertising over $5 billion a year just last year.

02:35:12.000 And, of course, drug sales have skyrocketed, too.

02:35:14.000 But what's happened is they're now pushing disease more than they're pushing medicine.

02:35:19.000 They want to convince everybody that they're sick.

02:35:21.000 And that's how they sell more drugs, and it's just become a giant con.

02:35:25.000 That's where things stand today.

02:35:27.000 Well, absolutely.

02:35:27.000 And then you look at the side effects on this, and it's like, ah, you know, may cause anal leakage or heart attacks, you know, and you're just like, what?

02:35:35.000 Right.

02:35:36.000 So what they do is they exaggerate the benefits, and then they minimize any of the side effects.

02:35:42.000 And another thing they do that a lot of people don't know is that the FDA does not conduct any drug research at all.

02:35:49.000 Okay?

02:35:49.000 The FDA doesn't test any drugs.

02:35:52.000 The FDA relies on the drug companies to do their own testing, and then to submit results to the FDA that they want the FDA to see.

02:36:00.000 And guess what?

02:36:01.000 If you're a big, greedy, evil, corporate drug company, you bury the test results that you don't want the FDA to see.

02:36:08.000 So, essentially, the so-called scientific evidence behind this industry is nothing but fraud.

02:36:15.000 They just... They basically engineer the tests that they want, They forward the results to the FDA that they want the FDA to see, and then the FDA says, yeah, this is safe and effective.

02:36:25.000 They rubber stamp approval.

02:36:26.000 They allow doctors to prescribe it to patients, and then Americans start to die.

02:36:31.000 And let's not forget that most of those people on the FDA that do approve this stuff have connections to a lot of these drug companies.

02:36:37.000 You know, they end up on their boards, or they end up as a CEO, or as an advisor to a lot of these guys.

02:36:43.000 You're exactly right.

02:36:44.000 In the last major drug decision about anti-inflammatory drugs, for example, The FDA expert panel that voted to keep it on the market had, I think it was two-thirds of that panel had ties to the drug industry.

02:36:58.000 Either they were on the payroll of the drug companies, or they had investments in drug companies.

02:37:03.000 And the FDA, by the way, doesn't think that they have any obligation to disclose this corruption to the American public.

02:37:10.000 So it's a big secret.

02:37:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:37:12.000 It's just another example how the lobbyists really do control our government, because, again, you know, you're a congressman, you're a senator, you make something like $80,000, maybe $120,000 a year, you work for, say, Pfizer, and, you know, they're pumping in a couple million dollar paycheck a year.

02:37:29.000 Well, yeah.

02:37:31.000 Big Pharma is the second wealthiest group of corporations in the world, and number one, probably, is Big Oil.

02:37:39.000 And of course the defense contractors aren't far behind, but you know drug companies make billions of dollars. 0.82

02:37:44.000 It's really a trillion dollar industry if you add it all up globally.

02:37:47.000 That's a lot of money floating around there, and you can bet that money finds its way into the pockets of the lawmakers.

02:37:54.000 Part of the problem too, and this is why the Alex Jones Show is so important, because the mainstream media is on the take as well.

02:38:01.000 So you don't get honest reporting about drugs, about how dangerous they are, or about the natural health options that people really should have access to, but they've been denied access to.

02:38:12.000 That's the crime that's going on here.

02:38:14.000 Absolutely, they're able to purchase as much time as they want for advertising.

02:38:18.000 And then, you know, I actually saw Michael Moore on Wolf Blitzer discussing this after the release of Sicko.

02:38:24.000 Like, he's like, well, you know, Dr. Sanjay Gupta isn't going to go against your sponsors, is he, Wolf?

02:38:29.000 I mean, that's a multi-million dollar industry, your sponsors.

02:38:33.000 I mean, you can't have a TV show without sponsor money, can you, Wolf?

02:38:37.000 No, exactly.

02:38:38.000 And if you remember, remember the dot-com boom and then crash?

02:38:43.000 The media suffered in a very desperate way for revenues after the dot-com crash, because it was the technology companies that were propping them up.

02:38:51.000 Well, guess who swept in and filled the empty space?

02:38:54.000 The drug companies.

02:38:56.000 And it was from 2001 to today where you really saw the ramp up in drug company advertising.

02:39:02.000 So the media has become, essentially, the lackeys of big pharma, and that's why you see so many articles out there about, oh, look, this new miracle drug.

02:39:12.000 And, gee, this could reduce risk of cancer by 50% when, if you look at the studies, it's really maybe one woman out of 200 might be saved by it, not 50% reduction, something far less.

02:39:26.000 Well, I see, you know, the elite laughing at us, because not only are they zombifying the masses with things like Ritalin and Prozac, but we're actually paying for it.

02:39:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:39:37.000 We are paying the highest prices in the world for pharmaceuticals.

02:39:42.000 We're paying rip-off prices.

02:39:43.000 And here's the kicker.

02:39:44.000 The FDA is enforcing a monopoly.

02:39:48.000 And in fact, the U.S.

02:39:49.000 government is enforcing this monopoly.

02:39:52.000 And did you know, by the way, they said you can't buy drugs from Canada or Mexico because they might be tainted?

02:39:58.000 Well, we just learned last week that the drug heparin is manufactured in China.

02:40:05.000 And it's brought in from China.

02:40:06.000 It's imported from China by these drug companies.

02:40:09.000 And it turned out that it had tainted, toxic ingredients, and it started killing people.

02:40:14.000 But the FDA approved that drug as safe and effective, and it said, if you buy that from the US, it's going to be safe.

02:40:20.000 Turns out it's made in China with toxic chemicals.

02:40:23.000 Well, that's just fear-mongering to keep people away from smaller drug prices, even though they're still just as toxic.

02:40:29.000 But they want you to pay these exorbitant prices in this country just to take down the standard of living of the average American.

02:40:36.000 And then they brainwash you, you know, on the TV.

02:40:39.000 God, it's like 24 hours a day now, especially if you're watching the right network, on, you need this drug, you need this drug.

02:40:44.000 And like I said before, there's just a slew of symptoms that these miracle drugs supposedly help.

02:40:50.000 And then, like you said before, they marginalize Oh yeah, you might die of a heart attack, or it may cause kidney problems.

02:40:56.000 Oh, no big deal.

02:40:57.000 Well, it turns out that even when these drugs work as they're supposed to work, let's say, lowering a cholesterol number in a woman who's 50 years old, well, if you take a hard look at the science, it turns out that changing that number has zero benefits to that person.

02:41:13.000 She has no lower risk of heart attack or stroke whatsoever.

02:41:16.000 Her risk of dying, in fact, goes up from taking the drug.

02:41:19.000 It doesn't go down.

02:41:20.000 Sure, the number looks better on paper, but she's sicker because she's taking an artificial synthetic chemical. 1.00

02:41:26.000 So the fact is, When I say this industry is a scam, I mean it.

02:41:30.000 Across the board, they are pushing dangerous, deadly chemicals based on nothing but fraudulent science.

02:41:37.000 The government's in on it, the FDA's in on it, the media's in on it, and people are dying, and I say we've had enough.

02:41:43.000 It's time to stop this.

02:41:44.000 So what do we do?

02:41:45.000 What's the next step?

02:41:46.000 What should my listeners do to take action against this?

02:41:49.000 What they can do right now is contact their representatives in Washington and tell them that they support a ban of DTC advertising.

02:41:58.000 That means direct to consumer.

02:42:00.000 They support an outright ban on DTC advertising of pharmaceuticals.

02:42:04.000 You know it's illegal in Canada, it's illegal in Japan, in the UK.

02:42:08.000 It's illegal in every country in the world except New Zealand and the United States.

02:42:14.000 And it was illegal, you know, before 1997.

02:42:16.000 So that's what I can do.

02:42:18.000 If we get enough pressure on these lawmakers and expose this story, shine some light on it, we might be able to stop this drug advertising from continuing.

02:42:27.000 Well, the TV is obviously the number one brainwashing tool in America, so it was vital for these people to get on the television.

02:42:34.000 And really, in the last five years, I've seen such an expansion.

02:42:38.000 of the names of these drugs, the quantity of these drugs, the quote-unquote benefits of these drugs, but you rarely see, especially in the mainstream media, any criticism of these drugs, any criticisms of the vaccinations, and then when Michael Moore puts out Sicko, which I don't agree with all of, by the way, I don't need a socialist medicine system, but it is a pretty good flick, and it does shine to light some of these issues.

02:43:03.000 They totally marginalize it.

02:43:05.000 It was nowhere near as successful as, say, a Fahrenheit 9-11 Or even a bowling for Columbine, and it didn't have quite that push.

02:43:13.000 It really shows you how the drug companies in this country seem to be on top.

02:43:17.000 Well, you've got to realize how much of our national economy is tied up with disease.

02:43:22.000 The cancer industry, and it is a for-profit industry, employs well over 100,000 people.

02:43:29.000 Now, if we taught Americans the truth about how they can cure cancer, or how they can prevent, you know, four out of five cancers can be prevented with vitamin D alone, and you can get that for free from sunlight, and if we taught Americans this thing, the cancer industry would collapse.

02:43:46.000 Those people would be out of jobs because they depend on ongoing sickness and disease in order to take home a salary and to seem important for their egos, for their profits, for their power over people. 0.88

02:43:58.000 They depend on sickness.

02:44:00.000 And that's why the cancer industry, in my opinion, has no interest whatsoever in curing cancer.

02:44:05.000 It only wants to maintain this disease and keep people trapped in a system of conventional cancer treatment.

02:44:11.000 And that all ties back into IG Farben, who went around this country and offered funding to those who would go to the approach of radiation and chemotherapy and all that good stuff.

02:44:22.000 And most people took that funding and they changed their way of thinking on cancer.

02:44:26.000 A World Without Cancer by G. Edward Griffin is really a great overlook of that whole situation.

02:44:32.000 That's a great book and Ed has done some fantastic work.

02:44:35.000 He's one of the truth tellers out there who really has valuable information, but again, You know, CNN will never have him on.

02:44:42.000 Fox News wouldn't have him on either.

02:44:44.000 They don't want his information to get out to the public because then the cancer industry would just collapse.

02:44:49.000 And the same thing is true with the diabetes industry.

02:44:52.000 We could cure diabetes in people in about two weeks.

02:44:55.000 I mean, we know how to do it.

02:44:56.000 It's very simple.

02:44:58.000 But they don't want that information to be put out there.

02:45:00.000 Yeah, they'd rather hook you for the rest of your life on taking insulin and basically fear-mongering you.

02:45:06.000 And you know, you mentioned G. Edward Griffin and how great his research is.

02:45:10.000 For all you guys out there that are PrisonPlanet.TV subscribers, Alex had him in studio last week.

02:45:15.000 I've met him on several occasions, had dinner with him.

02:45:17.000 And you can check that interview out on PrisonPlanet.TV, just another one of the great things that we offer here at the InfoWars team.

02:45:25.000 But yeah, G. Edward Griffin, you know, he talks about B-17 and that vitamin and it being suppressed.

02:45:30.000 How it has all these benefits against cancer, do you think that's ever going to reach the masses?

02:45:35.000 No, I mean the FDA maintains a deliberate campaign of censorship and they want to censor scientific knowledge as well.

02:45:44.000 I gave the example on my website about cherries.

02:45:46.000 You know, these cherry growers were linking to scientific studies showing that cherries could reduce arthritis inflammation very dramatically.

02:45:54.000 The FDA threatened them, threatened to put them out of business if they didn't remove the links to the scientific studies.

02:46:00.000 So we now have a government agency that is enforcing ignorance or scientific illiteracy.

02:46:07.000 It's enforcing it. 1.00

02:46:08.000 It wants the population to be uninformed, to be stupid, to be trapped in a system where they think they have no options. 0.99

02:46:15.000 And so far, that's what's been happening. 0.99

02:46:17.000 We don't live in a free country, as your listeners well know.

02:46:20.000 We live in a very tightly controlled monopoly of ideas, monopoly of commercialism, monopoly of medicine.

02:46:26.000 That's what we live under.

02:46:27.000 Yeah, we live in a really, it's a mall culture where we're taught to idolize our sports heroes and our television and movie stars.

02:46:37.000 Everything else seems to be secondary or come even third or not at all.

02:46:42.000 And what I tell my listeners is you've got to make this type of information primary in your life.

02:46:46.000 You've got to share this with your friends and your family.

02:46:48.000 And you've got to start practicing it.

02:46:50.000 And all that other stuff is secondary.

02:46:52.000 You know, the mortgage on the house is really secondary if you're not going to have a house to live in.

02:46:56.000 Or if you're not going to be alive to live in that house because you're not healthy.

02:46:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:47:00.000 Exactly.

02:47:01.000 We've got a whole generation at risk right now.

02:47:04.000 You know, the next generation are American children right now. 0.85

02:47:07.000 They are being attacked by what I call chemical weapons of mass neural destruction, and those are of course the Ritalin drugs and the ADHD drugs.

02:47:17.000 Why are our children being drugged with amphetamines?

02:47:21.000 Alright, it used to be called Speed when it was sold on the street.

02:47:24.000 Now it's being given to children who sit inside schools that have signs on the outside that say this is a drug-free zone?

02:47:29.000 Are you kidding me?

02:47:31.000 There's more drugs in the school than there... There's more drugs in the nurse's office and in the school's prescription style than there is any marijuana or possibly cocaine or ecstasy or any of that.

02:47:41.000 Yeah.

02:47:42.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:47:43.000 And I can... I'm sure you agree with it.

02:47:46.000 This is really a crime against our children.

02:47:49.000 They don't need more drugs.

02:47:50.000 They don't need mind-altering chemicals, right?

02:47:53.000 What they need is probably better education, better parenting, more time with their parents.

02:47:58.000 They need to be taught in a holistic way, in a caring way, not to be drugged and told, sit down, shut up, do your lessons, pay your taxes when you get old.

02:48:06.000 You know, be an American.

02:48:07.000 No, that's not what it's about.

02:48:09.000 We need to show them something different.

02:48:11.000 How to be an American that has freedom, that has choices, that's educated and knows their options and knows how to take care of themselves.

02:48:17.000 That's what a true American is supposed to be.

02:48:20.000 Well, I liken it to the combo pack of both Brave New World and 1984.

02:48:24.000 1984 really shows the surveillance society, which is definitely coming into play.

02:48:29.000 I did a report today about how IBM is now working with Lockheed Martin for the next level of biometric identification, including palm prints, facial recognition, all that good stuff.

02:48:40.000 But on the Brave New World end, It's to feed us crap, you know, basically poison, and then to give us all these drugs that are mind-altering and make us more passive, make us more mindless, make us more inactive, really.

02:48:55.000 Yeah, you're exactly right.

02:48:56.000 Isn't it interesting how all these pharmaceuticals, at the same time that they're making money for these drug companies, they also tend to sap the cognitive function of the population so that people can't really think for themselves anymore.

02:49:10.000 It means that they're not able to challenge the status quo, not able to rock the boat.

02:49:14.000 They can't even vote clearly anymore.

02:49:16.000 I mean, what's the future of a democracy when the population is so drugged out that they can't even vote rationally anymore?

02:49:25.000 You're in real trouble.

02:49:26.000 I'm with you there, and you know, it also ties into me, the fluoride in the water.

02:49:31.000 I mean, people need to get hip to the fact the first time fluoride was added to water, it was the Nazi concentration camps to make the populations there more docile. 0.66

02:49:42.000 Now, you can't go anywhere without fluoride being added to the water, and they want to increase the amounts.

02:49:48.000 Yes, it's just one more chemical that does have that effect, and they know if they can keep the population docile, you know?

02:49:55.000 Don't question anything, pay your taxes, do your work, buy your consumer goods, keep giving yourself cancer and make sure your children have diabetes too, then all the corporations can make money, the media can stay in control, the government can stay in control.

02:50:08.000 Nobody will have the wherewithal to stand up and say, wait a minute, maybe we deserve something better.

02:50:14.000 Maybe we should make a few changes around here and stop poisoning each other.

02:50:17.000 I'm with you.

02:50:18.000 Naturalnews.com is the site.

02:50:20.000 Mike, do you have a radio show on this network?

02:50:23.000 I sure do.

02:50:23.000 I've got a show.

02:50:24.000 The Health Ranger Show.

02:50:25.000 When's that?

02:50:26.000 Well, that's every day at 5 p.m.

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02:50:30.000 You can catch Mike.

02:50:31.000 Mike, thank you so much for joining us.

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02:54:06.000 We are back, and I want to remind everybody, retransmission begins in one hour!

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02:54:20.000 Tommy.

02:54:21.000 Or, yeah, it's A.K.A.

02:54:22.000 Tommy.

02:54:23.000 And, of course, if you want a copy of American Drug War, The Last White Hope, you can go to Infowars.com right now and get that.

02:54:31.000 And it really is an important film, folks.

02:54:32.000 If you haven't seen it, it's an amazing film exposing government involvement in running the drugs in this country.

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02:54:46.000 Alright, we're going to end the show by taking calls.

02:54:48.000 Let's go to Scott in Colorado.

02:54:50.000 Scott, are you with us?

02:54:52.000 Hi, I'm with you, Jason.

02:54:53.000 Hey, it's good to talk to you.

02:54:54.000 What a great show.

02:54:55.000 Thank you, man.

02:54:56.000 You had a lot of great guests on, Tommy Chong and Jack McLam and great show.

02:55:02.000 Anyway, I wanted to make a couple of points.

02:55:04.000 Number one, since we're talking about pharmaceutical industry, I was in that industry for a while.

02:55:10.000 Went from there to medical equipment, but getting to the information on... I sold anti-neoplastic drugs for cancer.

02:55:22.000 And what doctors can do as far as what the FDA... The FDA makes indications or approves indications for drugs and especially for cancer drugs.

02:55:32.000 And the cancer doctors really have a lot more latitude than the other physicians in what they can do.

02:55:36.000 But they can use any of the approved cancer drugs on anything that they want to.

02:55:42.000 They can try anything they want to try.

02:55:44.000 However, a pharmaceutical representative cannot Go in and initiate that conversation.

02:55:50.000 It has to be brought up by the physician.

02:55:54.000 Now, we would have these clandestine meetings where we would go in because once you have the population already for a specific drug, you've got to create a new indication for it and try to get it approved by the FDA.

02:56:06.000 But even though you can't get it approved or it's not approved, you try to engage the physician in discussing it, using it off-label or off-indication.

02:56:15.000 So the pharmaceutical companies encourage their people to do that.

02:56:19.000 However, if one doctor wants to, all they have to do is call 1-800-CALL-SBA and report them, and it's a $10,000 fine to the pharmaceutical rep.

02:56:30.000 Now, I left that industry because I told them that I was not going to go in and promote it that way, and that I could no longer do it because I didn't want to get that fine.

02:56:41.000 But they do push Pharmaceutical Reps to do things that they are not supposed to do.

02:56:48.000 Of course they do, and then it's only a slap on the wrist when they actually do get caught.

02:56:52.000 $10,000 fine, that's almost nothing to these pharmaceutical companies.

02:56:55.000 No, no, no, the Rep.

02:56:56.000 Oh, the Rep is the one that actually gets caught.

02:56:58.000 Oh, so they defer any kind of negativity towards you and you have to pay the fine.

02:57:04.000 Exactly, and that's why you have these clandestine meetings where you talk about promoting an off-label and how you're going to do it.

02:57:11.000 And then you walk up to your superior and say, you know, I really can't do that.

02:57:16.000 Let me get done ethically.

02:57:17.000 And now that it's against the law and it's $10,000 out of my pocket, well, they don't want you around if you don't want to follow, you know, their set protocol for getting new indications for a product.

02:57:29.000 The FDA hasn't yet passed.

02:57:30.000 Alright, Scott, thank you so much for the call, man.

02:57:32.000 I've got to jump to the next caller.

02:57:34.000 Try calling in on Monday when Alex is back.

02:57:36.000 Actually, Alex will be back 4-6 Sunday over at KLBJ, so if you want to tune in there.

02:57:42.000 Alex Jones, back on the radio.

02:57:43.000 You don't have to put up with my annoying voice any longer.

02:57:45.000 Alright, let's go to Mark in Georgia.

02:57:48.000 Mark, you're our final caller.

02:57:50.000 Yes, I appreciate the concerns of Tommy Chong and Randy Weaver.

02:57:56.000 We don't want to make the same mistake as the legalists.

02:57:59.000 And to be honest with you, I don't like the word Christian and I don't like the word expression born again because they are so cheaply used that most people who use it don't even understand what it really means.

02:58:10.000 We want to be clear that the abuse of the object is not to be confused with the object of abuse.

02:58:15.000 It's, yes, religion, which literally means to bind back together.

02:58:19.000 All right, Mark, I've got to stop you.

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03:00:00.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

03:00:05.000 Well, I've done a lot of interviews with a lot of amazing people.

03:00:11.000 But I have to tell you, this is the most excited I've ever been.

03:00:16.000 To have a guest on.

03:00:21.000 He's with us for the full hour.

03:00:22.000 He's in Tucson, Arizona.

03:00:23.000 He just played the Super Bowl pregame last night.

03:00:27.000 He is a global icon, an American institution.

03:00:31.000 There's probably nothing more.

03:00:34.000 Americana.

03:00:35.000 In fact, they've had polls overseas of Europeans, Asians, others, and they say, you know, who's Americana?

03:00:41.000 What symbolizes America in Texas?

03:00:43.000 And it's Willie Nelson.

03:00:46.000 But it's not just his music that I grew up listening to and that I love.

03:00:50.000 It's not just the films he's been in, it's the work he's done for humanity.

03:00:56.000 And it's his incredible spirit.

03:00:57.000 I had a chance to briefly meet him a few months ago here in Austin where he lives.

03:01:01.000 We're honored to have him hail from here.

03:01:04.000 And I was just struck, and I said that on air, by the down to earth and really just the Obi-Wan Kenobi-level zenness.

03:01:14.000 It's not an act.

03:01:15.000 He's an incredible person.

03:01:17.000 He doesn't like it.

03:01:17.000 I'm not going to gush.

03:01:19.000 Willie Nelson, thank you for spending time with myself and the audience.

03:01:22.000 Well, thank you, Alex.

03:01:23.000 I was enjoying that introduction.

03:01:26.000 Thank you.

03:01:27.000 Well, you deserve every bit of it, sir.

03:01:31.000 I'm glad to be on your show.

03:01:33.000 I'm a big fan and have been for years.

03:01:35.000 I've watched your videos and listened to you on radio.

03:01:38.000 I'm always checking in to see what you're doing.

03:01:41.000 You're doing a great job.

03:01:44.000 That's amazing.

03:01:45.000 It humbles me.

03:01:45.000 I better do a really good job of Willie Nelson's tuning in, along with the Japanese Parliament, every day.

03:01:52.000 Willie, this is a quick segment.

03:01:54.000 We're going to come back in a long 20-minute segment, but I asked you before the interview, I said, what do you want to talk about?

03:01:58.000 And you said, whatever you want to get into.

03:02:01.000 Let's talk about some fun stuff first.

03:02:03.000 Tell me about what the band's doing, your new song, Gravedigger.

03:02:08.000 What's going on?

03:02:10.000 Well, we have this new album that's out, it's called A Moment of Forever, and it's a song that Chris wrote, and it's probably the greatest love song I've ever heard.

03:02:17.000 And then we've got a couple of videos coming out of the album, The Grave Diggers one, and then we did another video that's coming out in a couple of months.

03:02:30.000 We did it down at my ranch there in Texas out there.

03:02:35.000 There's a video with me and Jessica Simpson and Owen Wilson and Woody Harrelson and all the Wilson boys and Ray Price and Johnny Bush and we just had a big crowd down there in town and we had a lawnmower race.

03:02:48.000 I wish you'd have been there.

03:02:49.000 You'd have had a lot of fun.

03:02:51.000 I actually heard about it from Turk Pibkin and other people.

03:02:54.000 Yeah.

03:02:57.000 But anyway, that's what we're into and we're out here doing a couple of songs off the album every night.

03:03:03.000 You've got quite a few websites.

03:03:06.000 What are some of the sites people can visit to see your latest info?

03:03:11.000 Well, there's williamnelson.com, and my daughter does a column every day to tell everybody what we're into out here.

03:03:20.000 And there's thewilliamnelsonpri.com, which is a website set up.

03:03:27.000 I did it originally to try to organize all the peace organizations in the world.

03:03:32.000 And I did a pretty good job of doing that, I think, because there's a whole lot of networking going on there about people talking about peace.

03:03:41.000 And then I wrote this song with my daughter, Amy, called Peaceful Solution.

03:03:47.000 And I put the song on the website and told people they could record it, rewrite it, or sing it, or put their band behind it.

03:03:55.000 I just gave them the song, basically.

03:03:57.000 And so far over a hundred people have recorded that song and videoed it.

03:04:03.000 The University of Texas did two videos on it.

03:04:08.000 Amazing.

03:04:09.000 Go ahead Willie.

03:04:10.000 I'm just fooling around.

03:04:14.000 Well, it's fantastic.

03:04:15.000 All of it.

03:04:16.000 It seems like your music just gets better and better.

03:04:18.000 You are a driven individual, and that's what I want to ask you when we get back.

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03:04:26.000 What is your philosophy, summed up?

03:04:28.000 I know your book that I read just last week, The Tale of Willie, is amazing, and I learned a lot from it.

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03:08:02.000 Pretty much the icon of music.

03:08:09.000 And he is quite a survivor.

03:08:11.000 Willie Nelson, again, thank you for being with us.

03:08:13.000 I wanted to throw out that question, I mean, about your life growing up.

03:08:18.000 What made you the way you are?

03:08:21.000 Why you've always stood up for the little guy, the farmers, and people in Africa, and just so many others?

03:08:28.000 Why did you go in that direction in your life?

03:08:32.000 Well, you know, I don't really know, except the fact that I grew up in a town in Abbott, Texas, which is a little small community farm town.

03:08:42.000 And I knew everybody in town.

03:08:43.000 Everybody knew me.

03:08:44.000 There were three or four churches there, four churches.

03:08:47.000 So, in one way or another, you went to church every day and every night of your life.

03:08:52.000 And I learned, if I learned anything, I learned that all those places, you know, sometimes the Baptists wouldn't talk to the Methodists or the Church of Christ wouldn't talk to the Catholics.

03:09:05.000 But they were all trying to do the same thing, and they were just divisions, even in that small town.

03:09:13.000 But the one thing that I did learn out of it was the Golden Rule.

03:09:16.000 You do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

03:09:19.000 And that, in amazing grace, I pulled out of Habit, Texas, and I think those two things alone have been really good for me.

03:09:28.000 When did you start your first band?

03:09:30.000 I was about 11.

03:09:37.000 Before I got out of high school, I started a band with me and my sister and my brother-in-law and my football coach.

03:09:43.000 He played trombone, and we had a little family band.

03:09:47.000 We played all over Texas.

03:09:50.000 We played in Waco and West and places that we could drive to with a trailer.

03:09:59.000 Didn't you start out in radio by 16 or 17?

03:10:02.000 You already had your own show?

03:10:04.000 Yeah, I was with KHBR in Hillsboro and we had our own radio show there every Saturday and then after that I went to the Air Force and then went down to Pleasanton, Texas and went to work with K.O.B.

03:10:19.000 Pleasanton down there and then I worked several other radio stations and at the same time playing bars around trying to make it.

03:10:27.000 It's amazing.

03:10:27.000 Well, you certainly did make it a long career.

03:10:30.000 You've been out, what, on the road and playing since, what, 54, 55, earlier?

03:10:37.000 Yeah, at least 49, when I graduated from high school.

03:10:43.000 Wow.

03:10:43.000 I was already in a band then.

03:10:45.000 So 49.

03:10:48.000 Shifting gears, again, we're talking to Willie Nelson.

03:10:53.000 Willie, The war.

03:10:55.000 I mean, you've been speaking out against it from the very start, and if you did that at the beginning, the media, the corporate media tried to punish people.

03:11:02.000 They punished the Dixie Chicks, but they kind of shied away from attacking you too much. 1.00

03:11:06.000 They tried to make an example out of them.

03:11:08.000 But I remember hearing you on the radio just saying, hey, you know, I don't care, you know, what they do.

03:11:15.000 Or I don't want to paraphrase.

03:11:16.000 What did you do at the time?

03:11:20.000 Well, first of all, it all happened, the Dixie Chicks was overseas when they said what they said.

03:11:31.000 That seemed to have upset everybody.

03:11:33.000 I was overseas, too, at a press conference.

03:11:38.000 I guess they had it in for the Dixie Chicks more than they did me. 0.98

03:11:42.000 I don't know.

03:11:43.000 They had every reason in the world to get on me, also.

03:11:45.000 They're afraid of you.

03:11:46.000 They knew it wouldn't fly. 0.97

03:11:48.000 Well, I don't know, but they said, you know, what about this crazy cowboy from Texas you got running your country? 0.94

03:11:52.000 First of all, he's not a cowboy. 0.93

03:11:54.000 Second of all, he ain't from Texas.

03:11:55.000 So, you know, let's start there.

03:12:02.000 And I mean, I make the point that they backed off from you because I don't think that they could chew up Willie Nelson.

03:12:09.000 I think they tried to pick on the Dixie Chicks, but it seemed that that backfired on them. 0.55

03:12:13.000 Well, it did, and it took a while, and the chicks had to go through some uncomfortable times, but, you know, they're tough, and they came out on the other side of it really looking great, and they're more popular now than they were then, and a lot of it's because of that.

03:12:29.000 So, you know, I don't know whether they'd rather have done it that way or not, but at least they said what they thought, and they stuck with it, and I think their last record was, you know, we're not ready to make nice yet.

03:12:41.000 Not ready to play nice, not ready to go along with this.

03:12:43.000 I'm mad as hell, and I'm just going to continue doing the right thing.

03:12:47.000 And that's why they're becoming even bigger icons.

03:12:50.000 Willie, your take on the war?

03:12:53.000 I mean, you were there from day one saying it was bad.

03:12:55.000 Now, 80% of Americans are saying it's a bad idea.

03:13:00.000 We know we were lied to about the WMDs.

03:13:02.000 We know with the White House and Downing Street memo that Bush tried to manufacture getting some of our aircraft shot down with Blair to start the war.

03:13:10.000 Where's Willie Nelson now, five years into this war, and thousands and thousands of dead Americans, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis?

03:13:23.000 I mean, you've been vindicated yet again.

03:13:27.000 Well, it was always a bad idea.

03:13:32.000 You just don't start wars.

03:13:33.000 And again, it goes back to whatever I learned in Alabama, Texas.

03:13:39.000 You just don't kill people.

03:13:41.000 There's something in the Bible that says, Thou shalt not kill.

03:13:45.000 And there's also a lot of things in there about peace on earth.

03:13:48.000 I grew up believing that way.

03:13:50.000 And then all of a sudden I found out there are huge organizations out there that are starting wars.

03:13:56.000 And selling bullets to both sides.

03:13:57.000 And I said, what the hell is going on?

03:13:59.000 What happened to peace on earth?

03:14:02.000 Well, you brought up a key there.

03:14:03.000 Can you elaborate on your take on big organizations selling to both sides?

03:14:08.000 Because that's the key here.

03:14:09.000 The humanity, the humans, the children, the people that die, that have their countries bombed out, the Americans that are taxed to pay for it all, and the no-bid contracts.

03:14:18.000 Humanity loses, but these kingpins, they win. 0.92

03:14:21.000 Yeah, and they've been winning ever since You know, in the old testament it talked about wars, there'd always be wars and rumors of wars, but in the new one it said, let's talk about peace, and then there was, there's going to be some peace, and I believe that there's, eventually, there's going to be peace on earth, and it's those other bastards that are getting in the way of it, so what do we do about them, Ali? 0.96

03:14:48.000 Well, I have to say this. 0.58

03:14:49.000 I do interviews every day on other people's talk shows, even confrontational interviews, adversarial interviews, and they'll take 10, 20 calls.

03:14:57.000 And of 20 calls, 19 people agree with me while the neocon or right-wing host is attacking me, because I come to it from a libertarian perspective, and it just neutralizes them.

03:15:08.000 Now, five, six years ago, that wasn't happening.

03:15:10.000 It was half and half.

03:15:12.000 And I'm seeing a total shift.

03:15:15.000 But also in the polls.

03:15:17.000 But now both parties have circled the wagons against the people and they're saying, we don't care what you want.

03:15:21.000 John McCain said this war is going to go on for 100 years.

03:15:24.000 Yeah.

03:15:25.000 Yeah.

03:15:26.000 And it can't.

03:15:30.000 It just can't.

03:15:31.000 We can't let it go on another year.

03:15:34.000 I mean, it has to.

03:15:37.000 The other day I was getting interviewed and somebody said, what would you do if you were elected president? 0.99

03:15:40.000 I said, I would stop the damn war. 0.99

03:15:43.000 And it's just that simple. 0.99

03:15:45.000 You stop that war, you stop other wars that were in and around the country, and you go around the country being a peacemaker and stopping wars.

03:15:53.000 I thought that's what you're supposed to do.

03:15:56.000 Since when does America invade all these countries that have nothing to do with 9-11?

03:16:00.000 Yeah, really.

03:16:01.000 And all of a sudden, you know, the way I heard it, 15 people from Saudi Arabia hit us in New York and we go jump on Afghanistan. 0.98

03:16:11.000 I never could figure that one out in Iraq.

03:16:13.000 Well, I did figure it out, too, but I'm surprised more people haven't figured it out.

03:16:18.000 Willie, you brought it up.

03:16:19.000 You figured it out.

03:16:20.000 What's your take on 9-11?

03:16:22.000 It just came out in AP today that the White House was running the commission.

03:16:26.000 We always knew that, but now they admit.

03:16:27.000 In fact, I have the headline right here.

03:16:29.000 I read it before you came on, where they're now admitting that it was a staged commission.

03:16:36.000 Well, that ain't good news, but it doesn't surprise me.

03:16:40.000 Did it, Hugh?

03:16:42.000 No, it didn't.

03:16:42.000 I'm glad it's coming out.

03:16:44.000 What's your take on 9-11?

03:16:45.000 Do you question the official story?

03:16:47.000 I certainly do, and I saw those towers fall, and I've seen an implosion in Las Vegas.

03:16:54.000 There was too much similarities between the two.

03:16:56.000 And I saw the building fall.

03:16:58.000 It didn't get hit by nothing.

03:17:00.000 So, you know, how naive are we?

03:17:04.000 What do they think we'll go for?

03:17:06.000 So are you saying you started having questions or that little voice in your head?

03:17:11.000 I mean, did you have a bad feeling the day it happened?

03:17:14.000 Is that what you're saying?

03:17:15.000 The day it happened, I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical.

03:17:19.000 I said, wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the casino over in Las Vegas.

03:17:25.000 And you see these implosions all the time.

03:17:27.000 And the next one fell and I said, hell, there's another one.

03:17:30.000 And they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it.

03:17:32.000 And that's, you know, I can't go along with that.

03:17:35.000 True story, I guess.

03:17:35.000 find out that mainstream news reported but it never got any attention that the supposed hijackers were given national security clearance and were trained at U.S. bases and the dean of the defense language school, Colonel Butler, goes public and says, we train these people, the government's involved, and they start court-martialing him until he agreed to shut up.

03:17:52.000 True story, I guess.

03:17:54.000 I hate to hear it, but it's probably true. 0.95

03:17:56.000 You've had a chance to see what Terrorstorm Endgame, some of the other films, was, What's Willie Nelson's take on those films?

03:18:04.000 Oh, I think they're right on.

03:18:05.000 I think, you know, the fact that there are a few elite that are running everything, calling the shots, starting the wars, financing them all.

03:18:15.000 I believe that.

03:18:16.000 And what else they're doing, who knows?

03:18:19.000 But that one thing alone is enough for us to think about how do we stop them.

03:18:27.000 Well, the proof is in the pudding.

03:18:28.000 If you've got, on every issue, 75 to 85, in all the major scientific polls, the people are against everything this government's doing.

03:18:35.000 We send the Democrats to Congress to end the war. 0.91

03:18:37.000 They increase it.

03:18:39.000 And now they're saying they're going to be there 100 years, Hillary and McCain.

03:18:42.000 I mean, to me, that is a small group running things right there in front of us.

03:18:46.000 Absolutely.

03:18:47.000 And as far as I can see, all those people attended the same meetings that you and the guys attended up in Canada.

03:18:53.000 Am I wrong?

03:18:54.000 Oh, no.

03:18:54.000 A lot of them do go to the Bilderberg Group.

03:18:56.000 Yes, sir.

03:18:57.000 Yes.

03:18:57.000 Is that freedom?

03:18:59.000 I don't think so.

03:19:01.000 It's not democracy either.

03:19:05.000 Willie Nelson, you're blowing me away here.

03:19:08.000 When we get back, I want to talk about solutions, your ideas, because the people are awake to a certain extent.

03:19:14.000 I just don't think that they have the specifics of what to do.

03:19:16.000 I want to tell them about some of your organizations and groups, and I agree with taking Our everyday life in our own hands like you've done with the biodiesel, that's a separate thing from what they're doing with the corn and other things and I want to be sure and separate that out and explain that to people and what you've tried to do and all the money you've put into trying to get us into renewable resources and things that are actually, you know, will allow us to not continue to destroy the earth.

03:19:44.000 We'll be right back.

03:19:45.000 Oh, in fact, we're not going to go to break.

03:19:46.000 I forgot.

03:19:46.000 I told him to skip that break.

03:19:47.000 I'm so used to going to break at the 20 after, and I told John to skip that so we've got more time here.

03:19:52.000 I'm a little bit dumbstruck here talking to you, Willie.

03:19:59.000 Solutions.

03:19:59.000 I mean, you talk about how we do have this elite running things, and the evidence shows that, and the documents have been declassified.

03:20:05.000 What are your ideas to get the people to mobilize to do something about it?

03:20:12.000 The song that I wrote called Peaceful Solution, now all those people that recorded it believe, and so do I, that there is a peaceful solution.

03:20:24.000 And it's called a peace revolution, and we just take back America. 0.65

03:20:29.000 And we do it, vote it back, we do it, we make sure that the crooked ballot boxes are thrown away, we get a paper trail and everything, and make sure that Good honest people can get back in control and that's the only way we're going to do it is to just do it.

03:20:44.000 You know what I mean?

03:20:46.000 Well, I think that's happening.

03:20:49.000 Just in the news today, we're seeing that they've recruited 26,000 preachers the White House has through FEMA to tell their flocks to stand down, to turn in their guns, to follow orders, to do what the President says in the Presidential Decision Directive 51.

03:21:03.000 Bush says he's above the Congress.

03:21:05.000 It's no longer involved in continuity of government in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

03:21:10.000 They have openly funded for insurrection and rebellion by the American people.

03:21:15.000 The whole police state apparatus they built up after 9-11, and I want to get your take on this, Willie, because I know you're aware of it, is now being used against the people.

03:21:24.000 They're not even talking about the boogeyman of Al-Qaeda anymore.

03:21:29.000 No, and I do believe that it's a long time until Election Day and some sort of national crisis could put off the elections.

03:21:38.000 and we could have George in there 10 years longer.

03:21:40.000 A lot of people are saying that.

03:21:45.000 I was saying that many years ago, and now Bob Woodward's talked about how they're setting up for martial law, of all people.

03:21:52.000 Naomi Wolf is talking about it.

03:21:54.000 I think that might save us.

03:21:56.000 I'm seeing a lot at the end of the tunnel, but I think you're right.

03:22:00.000 I think that's a great danger.

03:22:02.000 If that did happen, a nuke went off, a biological weapon was released, or terrorists supposedly blew up a bunch of other buildings.

03:22:09.000 What do you think the response of the population should be if they announce we're under this new emergency?

03:22:14.000 It could be an economic emergency, and Bush is going to have to stay on to save us.

03:22:18.000 Well, I I would hope that we'd be smarter than that, and I would hope that we'd say, no, we're throwing all you guys out and we're starting over.

03:22:30.000 You can stop the elections if you want to, but you can't stop the people.

03:22:36.000 Well, Ron Paul has gotten more donations from Well, again, the troops are under order, and if they don't do what they, you know, the orders are, then they get shot.

03:22:48.000 So, uh, the troops have no choice.

03:22:50.000 There's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do.

03:22:54.000 and the troops are under order in the federal law faith you know the orders are that they get shot so uh...

03:23:00.000 that the troops have no choice there's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do there if you there because they just like to fight uh...

03:23:10.000 but there's a lot of them are like you say that would rather be home with their families and the slave are good men and women for something that really matters for really something that is the defense of our country If we need some people down here on the borders, let's take 150,000 people out of Iraq and put them on the borders of Canada and Mexico.

03:23:27.000 We can secure our borders that way.

03:23:30.000 Well, Howard, we have this war on terror where there's an Al-Qaeda terrorist under every bed, under every table.

03:23:36.000 We've got to have checkpoints and kids getting thumbscanned to get their lunches to stop Al-Qaeda. 0.87

03:23:41.000 But then the border's wide open.

03:23:42.000 That kind of makes it a fraud.

03:23:45.000 Well, yeah, and they're fighting over there because you remember the old joke about the guy that dropped a quarter and he was looking around and the guy said, where did you lose it?

03:23:52.000 I said, I lost it over yonder.

03:23:53.000 And he said, what are you looking over here for?

03:23:55.000 I said, well, call the lights better.

03:24:01.000 I think that's why they're over there, the light's better.

03:24:02.000 Well, it's a black hole to launder money and dump trillions of dollars in no-bid contracts to Halliburton.

03:24:11.000 Yeah, and there's nobody stopping it.

03:24:15.000 And as long as it keeps going on and nobody stops it, I don't know what the end result will be.

03:24:22.000 Well, tyrants... It can't be good for us.

03:24:26.000 Well, you're right.

03:24:26.000 Tyrants have known throughout history.

03:24:28.000 They keep pushing.

03:24:29.000 They keep testing.

03:24:30.000 Tyranny doesn't come overnight.

03:24:32.000 And I hope a lot of people that support this war, I hope you know we have illegal wars not declared, torture, the rest of it. 0.61

03:24:38.000 None of us are safe here.

03:24:39.000 What comes around goes around.

03:24:40.000 You reap what you sow, don't you, Willie?

03:24:42.000 Absolutely.

03:24:43.000 Ten times over, I remember.

03:24:46.000 And I'm not sure I want to get treated ten times as bad as we're treating other people.

03:24:51.000 Did you ever see the actual Army reports?

03:24:54.000 MSNBC posted it, but then never covered it.

03:24:57.000 With what the actual torture was, not just those photos?

03:24:59.000 I mean, it reported they tortured people's children in front of their parents?

03:25:05.000 No, I didn't hear that. 0.63

03:25:07.000 Did you see the report about them raping the women inside the camps?

03:25:11.000 Well, that one doesn't surprise me.

03:25:13.000 But torturing them in front of their family, I didn't know.

03:25:16.000 Yeah, if you want, I can email you some of the mainstream stories.

03:25:22.000 They had a CIA section chief in the Washington Post say, yeah, we torture their children in front of the parents to get answers. 0.65

03:25:30.000 Well, I don't understand it.

03:25:35.000 I think the establishment is trying to seduce our troops into evil, but again, I think they're throwing it back up at them.

03:25:44.000 Well, I think so.

03:25:45.000 This can't happen because everyone is an individual.

03:25:48.000 We all have our free will, and God gave us the freedom to use it.

03:25:54.000 So no matter where we are, what we're doing, if we know it's wrong, we should not do it.

03:26:00.000 Well, for anybody that wants the report, it was a Filipino-American General, two-star General Tugumu, was hired to run the report on 30-plus camps in Iraq, and that was the findings for anybody that wants to go check that.

03:26:13.000 Those are amazing claims, but they are true.

03:26:19.000 Speaking of an individual like George Bush, and these elitists that are puppeteering him, How do you think they sleep at night, Willie?

03:26:27.000 Because somebody like you or myself, you know, we have a conscience, and I love my conscience.

03:26:31.000 It's my greatest possession.

03:26:33.000 And I wonder about psychopaths sometimes, how they just enjoy evil.

03:26:38.000 Well, you know, I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up with a lot of people who really are... You have to doubt if they have a conscience.

03:26:49.000 And I know they're all over the world, so I'm not surprised that people, you know, can torture because I've seen it happen all my life and you know smaller degrees but there are just some people who are that way they like to make the other person uncomfortable in whatever way they can it's a power trip isn't it yeah I think it is it's not money it's about power well where I'm from my dad is from uh two counties over to the east

03:27:18.000 That's where our family's been since 1829 with Spanish land grants.

03:27:22.000 And then my mom's family were German immigrants in the 1840s to right around Austin and surrounding areas.

03:27:29.000 So I am really proud to be a Texan because you're a Texan, Willie.

03:27:33.000 All the way through.

03:27:35.000 You know, I love our state.

03:27:36.000 It sure is growing.

03:27:38.000 It is growing, and I'm glad to see it.

03:27:40.000 We've got a lot of room down there, you know, so if it gets too crowded in Fredericksburg, we'll go further west.

03:27:47.000 But there's plenty of room out there, so I'd tell people to come on down.

03:27:52.000 You've got a studio out in Fredericksburg, don't you?

03:27:54.000 I have one out at Ferdinand's out just west of Austin there.

03:27:59.000 It's between Austin and Fredericksburg.

03:28:02.000 Boy, it sure is pretty out by Hunt.

03:28:05.000 Yes, it is.

03:28:06.000 It's just incredibly beautiful all over that state, and I'm prejudiced and I will be the first to admit it.

03:28:12.000 The presidential election, Kucinich has dropped out.

03:28:15.000 My audience and others helped raise the money for the recount.

03:28:17.000 They did find evidence on the Republican and Democratic side of chicanery in New Hampshire, but Kucinich has dropped out now.

03:28:25.000 What do you think of Ron Paul?

03:28:27.000 Oh, I like Ron Paul, but I think he's got the same troubles that Dennis had, first of all.

03:28:32.000 You know, there's not that much support behind him.

03:28:35.000 He is growing a little bit, but I noticed his numbers had come up in, where was it, Maine here in the last day or so that he got quite a good... You know, I like what he says.

03:28:46.000 I still think when we get down to it, it's going to be McCain and either Hillary or Obama.

03:28:53.000 And they're all pro-war. 0.52

03:28:56.000 It sounds like it.

03:28:58.000 I was hoping that Hillary had changed her mind. 1.00

03:29:01.000 I was hoping Obama was all the way against the war.

03:29:06.000 I don't know.

03:29:06.000 Maybe public opinion can keep their minds where they need to be.

03:29:10.000 Let's talk more about the election, biodiesel, hemp, the drug war, so many other questions.

03:29:17.000 Half the interview has already gone by.

03:29:18.000 This is just wonderful to have you with us, Mr. Nelson.

03:29:21.000 You are a sweetheart to spend so much time with us.

03:29:23.000 We'll be right back with Willie Nelson after this quick three-minute break.

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03:33:06.000 We have eight servers, and this has not happened in about a year.

03:33:11.000 Some of the sites you can't even hardly get to right now.

03:33:13.000 I guess the word is spread on the internet that Willie Nelson is, and we can take millions of visitors, so people are going crazy right now on the websites.

03:33:22.000 Willie, you have made quite a splash here.

03:33:25.000 Well, that's good.

03:33:28.000 Yeah, you're burning the place down.

03:33:30.000 It's awesome.

03:33:33.000 Getting into the war, and then the solution, trying to fix this politically, magically, Ron Paul's been getting half the votes the polls show he should get.

03:33:43.000 Obama was getting 15 more points or more than Hillary in New Hampshire.

03:33:46.000 She magically won by almost four points.

03:33:49.000 That's like an 18-point swing.

03:33:50.000 That's never happened before.

03:33:51.000 Ron Paul really got second place in Nevada, the media just said he didn't even make place.

03:33:57.000 He won first place in Louisiana.

03:33:59.000 They lied and said he got second place.

03:34:01.000 These voting machines, all the corruption there, give us your view on that.

03:34:06.000 Well, you know, it's a no-brainer.

03:34:09.000 You've got to get rid of the voting machines because they're crooked or they can be hacked and we can't afford to have another election stolen.

03:34:19.000 Well, in the past, when you were growing up as a young man, and then even older, I mean, the voting was, they put the ballot box out in the middle of the room, they all got counted, that precinct then announced it, everybody got to watch the counting, and you still had a few problems.

03:34:33.000 LBJ did some stuff.

03:34:34.000 Stuff happened with Kennedy up in Chicago, but it became news because we had a good system.

03:34:39.000 Now, they have these secret boxes.

03:34:41.000 They've been caught hacking them.

03:34:42.000 They've been caught stealing elections.

03:34:43.000 People just went to prison in Ohio from the 2004 election as we fingered it as fraud.

03:34:49.000 And then these five big companies all have intelligence agency ties.

03:34:53.000 I mean, how obvious does it have to get?

03:34:56.000 Yeah, that's my question.

03:35:00.000 What do we have to see in order to change it?

03:35:02.000 Because we know it's crooked.

03:35:05.000 Well, I guess we first have to expose that it is crooked, and that's now happening.

03:35:08.000 What's the second step?

03:35:09.000 I mean, how do you... The establishment knew we weren't going to like what they were doing, and so now they've moved in to block us with these machines.

03:35:17.000 Well, since I know zero about machines, you know, it wouldn't be that hard for them to fool me.

03:35:23.000 You know, and it's been... It's done with pencil and paper.

03:35:26.000 I get fooled with that, too, but it's a little harder.

03:35:31.000 But you didn't get fooled on the war from day one, and you didn't get fooled on 9-11, Willie?

03:35:35.000 No, I didn't.

03:35:36.000 And I still think I know what's going on there.

03:35:43.000 Well, now that Kucinich has dropped out, do you think Ron Paul's the best candidate, or what's your take on that?

03:35:50.000 I think he's a great candidate.

03:35:51.000 I think he's a great guy, and I wish him well.

03:35:54.000 We'll see what happens, I guess tomorrow, that will answer a lot of our questions.

03:36:01.000 Yeah, Super Tuesday coming up tomorrow.

03:36:04.000 Willie, getting back into 9-11, because you brought it up, and I was debating even bringing it up.

03:36:10.000 It's so controversial.

03:36:12.000 But other questions, other things that piqued your interest and made you question the official story surrounding 9-11?

03:36:19.000 Well, as soon as it happened in the next day...

03:36:27.000 I was somewhere doing a show and somebody said, what do you think about it?

03:36:31.000 I said, well, first of all, when I get hit, I like to look around and see who did it before I start swinging at everybody in the room.

03:36:39.000 And it kind of looked like what we were doing.

03:36:42.000 We get hit over here and the next thing you know, we're jumping on everybody in the town.

03:36:46.000 So we got hit from Saudi Arabia.

03:36:52.000 I think we have some Questions that need to be answered from those folks.

03:36:56.000 You know, that's a really good point you make.

03:37:00.000 Again, Newsweek reported a week after 9-11 that in the six months before, they had massed carrier task forces, 44,000 US troops, 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan surrounding, and that Bush on September 10th signed the order in the next week to attack Afghanistan.

03:37:17.000 Man, what timing, Willie, that he signed the attack order the day before!

03:37:22.000 Yeah, I wonder how that happened.

03:37:26.000 I mean, how smoking gun is that?

03:37:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:37:30.000 I mean, what does it take for us to realize that, you know, we're having the wool pulled over our eyes one more time?

03:37:39.000 You know, there's a war against the American people, and that's the drug war.

03:37:43.000 Back when drugs were sold on store shelves, we had a lot less drug use in this country.

03:37:49.000 They criminalize it, it corrupts the police, and it puts a lot of money in drugs, and then the kids get involved in it, and of course they gotta go after marijuana, because 70 plus percent of people don't use other drugs.

03:38:01.000 They use the medicine hemp, and you've been a big advocate, you know, exposing how DuPont and Dow Chemical shut that down, even the cannabis varieties that don't even have HTC in them.

03:38:16.000 When did you first begin to fight the drug war and to expose what was happening with the suppression of hemp?

03:38:22.000 Well, first of all, I knew that there should be, that it's the greatest killer on the planet is stress and the best medicine is cannabis.

03:38:33.000 And for some people.

03:38:35.000 And it's a good medicine.

03:38:36.000 So, first of all, there was no reason to make it illegal unless you had an agenda.

03:38:42.000 And the same thing with The same thing with biodiesel and ethanol.

03:38:51.000 Ethanol back in the 30s, 25% of the market was ethanol.

03:38:58.000 The other 75% was standard oil.

03:39:01.000 So once ethanol became a problem, what did they do?

03:39:05.000 They came up with Prohibition.

03:39:07.000 It did two things.

03:39:08.000 It stopped the farmer from growing And making ethanol, because he was making ethanol in the same piece of equipment that he made his whiskey in, which was a still.

03:39:19.000 So when they brought in Prohibition and stopped the whiskey, they also stopped the making of ethanol, and they put the farmers out of business who were making their own fuel.

03:39:29.000 And also Standard Oil again won the battle.

03:39:34.000 Yeah, my family's from in between Fairfield and Buffalo, and we've still got over 1,000 acres out there.

03:39:45.000 Farming's tough, so over the years they would sell land off the original Spanish land grant just to be able to pay the taxes.

03:39:50.000 But the big drought in the 50s almost made them go under.

03:39:53.000 But there are rotting stills back there down on some of the swamp land.

03:39:58.000 I don't know who put them there.

03:39:59.000 They're still regulators.

03:40:00.000 They might come after us.

03:40:01.000 But there's old metal remnants of stills.

03:40:04.000 And the story I got was that they made them destroy them.

03:40:07.000 And went after people, and they weren't even, most of the time, making moonshine with them, but you're right, that was an economic warfare against the farmers, because I know that happened to my family, the Joneses. 0.52

03:40:19.000 Well, it definitely happened to a lot of people, and it put the ethanol people out of business the first time, and then the second time around they put them out of business, and now they're trying to do it again, and as oil goes up and up and up and up, They're also looking at us over here who are into the alternative energies, and I've heard from the oil companies that, hey, you know, it's all right.

03:40:42.000 You guys go ahead and do what you're going to do for the next 36 months or so, and then we're going to come in and take it over.

03:40:48.000 And that would all be well and good, except that when that happens, I know it's not going to be good for the local producer and the local consumer.

03:40:56.000 A lot of things will be imported, palm oil for all over the world, and that's not good until we can get it back to where your family and my family can grow their own ethanol and their own biodiesel, then our economy is going to stay bad.

03:41:14.000 We have to bring it back to sustainable agriculture locally, and it's got to start locally.

03:41:19.000 Well, going back to biodiesel, there's a big difference between biodiesel and some of the things they're making out of corn because you're able to make the biodiesel you create out of all sorts of things Can you explain the difference and then talk about the program you've tried to launch nationally?

03:41:38.000 Well, the first diesel engine, Rudolph Diesel designed his first engine to run on peanut oil.

03:41:46.000 So for all these years that we've been using You know, oil and diesel, and we could have been using peanut oil, we could have been using all kinds of vegetable oils, but we didn't have to become that dependent.

03:42:01.000 So it was, again, it was a planned agenda to keep us away from the biodiesel because they wanted to sell us oil.

03:42:11.000 At the same time, the government was using biodiesel and ethanol and its equipment because it was Cheaper to produce, and the equipment ran better on it.

03:42:22.000 But they didn't give it to the private sector because they wanted us to keep using oil.

03:42:30.000 Well, you talk about the Monopoly game they played to do this.

03:42:33.000 Is that where... I mean, is that the place you started to learn about the Monopoly men and the larger global forces?

03:42:40.000 Or when did you discover what, for lack of a better term, we'd call the New World Order or the Kingpins?

03:42:47.000 Oh I don't know.

03:42:47.000 There's one thing and another.

03:42:48.000 That was part of it.

03:42:50.000 When the cannabis thing and the marijuana was made illegal back in those days, I traced it back to the petrochemicals again.

03:42:58.000 Everything that was made from Cannabis now is made from petrochemicals, so it's just the oil companies again coming in and taking over and making marijuana illegal and telling people it's crazy and it'll kill you and all that stuff.

03:43:16.000 So far, I don't know of anybody that's died from marijuana unless a bale fell on them or something.

03:43:22.000 My friend Kevin Booth just produced a film I consulted on called American Drug War that's going to be airing on Showtime coming up in March, I guess next month.

03:43:32.000 And he spent four years making it, and he's got the numbers from year to year it changes, but about 200,000 to 300,000 it changes each year die from pharmacological legal drugs.

03:43:44.000 And about 10,000 die a year from all the really hard, you know, quote, bad illegal drugs, which I agree are bad, heroin, cocaine, things like that.

03:43:52.000 And then they can't even find any deaths from marijuana and George Washington grew it on his land and smoked it for stomach aches.

03:43:59.000 So why is marijuana illegal and why do they fill the prisons with hundreds of thousands of people a year who are caught with it?

03:44:07.000 Well, it's obvious again because everything that's made from petrochemicals one time was made from cannabis.

03:44:14.000 And it's even the The Blue Jeans.

03:44:19.000 Did you ever read a book called The Emperor Has No Clothes that Jack Herro wrote?

03:44:24.000 Yes, I did.

03:44:24.000 I like the Bible, yeah.

03:44:25.000 And it talks about the original Levi's being made from cannabis.

03:44:29.000 And it talks about all the ships, the covered wagons, the canvas was made from cannabis.

03:44:38.000 Yeah, the sails, the ropes, they lasted four or five times longer?

03:44:41.000 Yeah, and when I was in high school in the FFA, during the war, And they had us making rope out of hemp.

03:44:50.000 They made hemp legal again back during the war because they needed it.

03:44:54.000 And we were making hemp ropes in the gymnasium there in Abbott, Texas.

03:44:58.000 It really is a magic plant.

03:45:00.000 I mean, you can grow it anywhere, and it's just an incredible product for industry, but I guess it's not centralized like a giant chemical plant, so they just can't let the farmers have that, can they?

03:45:13.000 That's right.

03:45:15.000 It's just too hard for them to compete against something that you can just throw out some seeds and that you've got food, fuel, material, everything you need in one seed.

03:45:28.000 And that's just too much for them to compete with.

03:45:31.000 We're talking to Willie Nelson.

03:45:33.000 He's not just a country music legend or been in scores of films.

03:45:37.000 He's a humanitarian and has just done so much good work for humanity.

03:45:42.000 Do you want to play part of that song since you mentioned it?

03:45:45.000 We happen to have it, Peace on Earth.

03:45:46.000 Would you like us to play a few minutes of that, Willie?

03:45:48.000 Sure, go ahead.

03:45:49.000 John, you've got that, right?

03:45:53.000 We sent him so many songs.

03:45:55.000 Yeah, it's there.

03:45:57.000 I forgot to tell him that we might play that if you mentioned it.

03:46:00.000 Here it is, and we'll be back to Willie here in about two minutes.

03:46:03.000 Here it is.

03:46:26.000 So many things going on in the world.

03:46:31.000 Babies dying, mothers crying.

03:46:35.000 How much all this one human life was worth.

03:46:42.000 What happened to peace on earth?

03:46:48.000 We believe everything that they tell us. 0.98

03:46:50.000 They're gonna kill us. 1.00

03:46:54.000 We better kill them first. 1.00

03:46:58.000 But I remember a commandment. 1.00

03:47:01.000 Thou shall not kill.

03:47:03.000 How much is that soldier's life worth?

03:47:08.000 And what happened to peace on Earth?

03:47:14.000 And the people of Earth still believe that.

03:47:19.000 Everything we've been told from our birth.

03:47:24.000 Hell, they won't lie to me. 1.00

03:47:26.000 Not on my own damn TV. 0.99

03:47:29.000 But how much is a liar's word worth? 0.99

03:47:35.000 What happened to peace on Earth?

03:47:40.000 So I guess it's just you and the others before they can do it too. 1.00

03:47:51.000 Let's just kill them all and let God sort them out. 0.99

03:47:57.000 Is this what God wants us to do? 1.00

03:48:02.000 And the people of Earth are still believing everything we've been told from our birth.

03:48:11.000 Hell, they won't lie to me. 0.99

03:48:14.000 Not on my own damn TV. 0.99

03:48:18.000 But how much is a liar's word worth? 0.99

03:48:23.000 What happened to peace on Earth?

03:48:29.000 Don't confuse caring for weakness I can't put that label on me.

03:48:39.000 The truth is my way, one of mass protection.

03:48:45.000 And I believe truth sets you free. 0.98

03:48:50.000 The bewildered nerds still believing Everything we've been told from our birth Hell, they won't lie to me Not on my own damn TV But how much is a liar's word worth What? 0.98

03:49:10.000 What happened to peace on earth? 0.95

03:49:36.000 On Willie Nelson's websites, we have links to them up on infowars.com, prisonplotter.com.

03:49:41.000 It's out there on YouTube.

03:49:42.000 Spread it around. - Thank you, Tom.

03:49:44.000 Willie Nelson really boils it down there.

03:49:48.000 How much is a liar's word worth?

03:49:52.000 Willie, I mean, the White House, the Congress has been caught hundreds of times, the documents have come out, buying billions of dollars of fake newscasts and buying reporters.

03:50:02.000 And that's what I always ask my listeners when I'm on other talk shows and on television.

03:50:06.000 I say, we've been lied to thousands of times we know of, hundreds of times by the Bush administration.

03:50:11.000 They've been caught.

03:50:12.000 We know they're lying.

03:50:13.000 They're not making mistakes.

03:50:16.000 Your view on that, Willie?

03:50:18.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

03:50:19.000 And, you know, it doesn't, after all the other things that they've done, lying is certainly not going to stop them.

03:50:27.000 It's all it takes to cover up what they're doing is a little white lie.

03:50:31.000 Well, they'll, you know, they'll paint the world with a little white lies. 0.97

03:50:36.000 And I wouldn't call, yeah, white lies are bad enough, but these are big black lies to... These are huge black ones, yeah. 0.99

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03:50:59.000 In the U.S., commodities such as flour and rice are already being rationed, and the next rice crop won't be available for another four to five months.

03:51:05.000 It's fall in the Southern Hemisphere, and many countries are short the food necessary to make it through the winter and have stopped exporting certain commodities altogether.

03:51:13.000 Remember our trade deficit?

03:51:15.000 Trillions of dollars have stacked up outside the country and are now rushing in to buy our food production at any price.

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03:51:45.000 There is absolutely no doubt about that.

03:51:50.000 In about six minutes the show is going to end, John, and I want you to go out in the last 30-45 seconds with Willie from that high women's song Silver Stallion.

03:52:01.000 You know, talking to a music legend like yourself, obviously Johnny Cash affected me a lot.

03:52:07.000 So did Waylon Jennings.

03:52:08.000 What is it like having those two friends gone, Willie?

03:52:13.000 Oh, I miss them a lot.

03:52:14.000 You know, Waylon and I, we fought like cats and dogs.

03:52:18.000 We fought like married people, you know. 0.51

03:52:21.000 But I loved him like a brother, and I know he did me, too.

03:52:25.000 And John and I got really close during the Highwaymen tours.

03:52:29.000 And we did three of those, and you know, you don't travel around the world and live that close without getting to know people.

03:52:36.000 John and Waylon and Chris and I, you know, we had a whole lot of fun together.

03:52:42.000 When did you first meet Johnny Cash?

03:52:47.000 He had already left Nashville when I went to Nashville, and then I got a letter from him.

03:52:52.000 He got my address from Chris or somebody and said he wanted me to write him a song.

03:52:58.000 I wrote him a song and he recorded it and the next time he came to town we got together and talked about it.

03:53:07.000 We'd run into each other every now and then, but he had a show over in Switzerland that he and June went over and they did a Christmas show over in Switzerland and he asked me to come over there and be on that show.

03:53:23.000 and all our families were over there.

03:53:25.000 We spent Christmas over in Switzerland and had a great time.

03:53:29.000 That's when we first started talking about doing the first Highwaymen album together and also doing the tours.

03:53:37.000 Well, I love all your music, but the Highwaymen, it's just all of it's poetry.

03:53:44.000 I think there's some great songs.

03:53:45.000 Chip Smullin is a really great producer.

03:53:47.000 Got a lot of those songs together.

03:53:49.000 And we did, too.

03:53:51.000 We just stood around and figured out what we wanted to sing.

03:53:54.000 And, you know, I thought that there were some good songs in there.

03:53:59.000 What's your favorite Highwaymen song?

03:54:04.000 Oh, I like the song, I Was a Highwayman, you know.

03:54:10.000 Oh, yeah.

03:54:11.000 The Jimmy Webb song.

03:54:12.000 I like that one a lot.

03:54:14.000 In fact, change that.

03:54:14.000 Let's go out with I Was a Highwayman.

03:54:17.000 I love that one.

03:54:19.000 But we're not going out yet, Willie, and I know you're really busy.

03:54:21.000 You've given us an hour on the show ends.

03:54:22.000 I'd like to talk to you just for a moment or two about some other things.

03:54:27.000 Just in closing, We know we're going into serious times with the economy.

03:54:34.000 The big central banks, I have their documents.

03:54:35.000 I interviewed Joseph Stiklitz, their former chief economist, who quit when he found out in 2002 they were planning to organize this.

03:54:41.000 They issued all this liquidity, gave everybody credit.

03:54:44.000 Now they're pulling back that credit.

03:54:46.000 They're saying it's the greatest threat since the Great Depression.

03:54:50.000 With that said, you were born during all of that.

03:54:53.000 Where do you see this going?

03:54:56.000 I guess the worst case scenario would be if we all had to go back to the way we grew up and grow our own food in our own gardens in the backyard or in our pot plants or whatever.

03:55:07.000 And it's something we can do.

03:55:08.000 In fact, all over Houston, New York and cities now, people are using vacant lots and rooftops to grow, starting to grow their own vegetables.

03:55:18.000 And I think the way things are going, we all should be thinking about how can we sustain ourselves.

03:55:25.000 If gasoline is too expensive, or if there is no more, or if the roads get cut off, there's the weather problems that we've had, and from all indications, those things are going to get worse.

03:55:38.000 Are you familiar with the Mayan calendar, by the way?

03:55:41.000 I am, and it's clear we're going to have to do a part two, if you'll do it, in the next six months or so.

03:55:47.000 Yeah, I'd love to do that.

03:55:48.000 We could talk about all those things, but it's obvious that the weather patterns are getting more severe.

03:55:53.000 Well, look at the tsunamis.

03:55:55.000 I mean, in the last seven years, they've had more global disasters with more numbers killed than the last 30 years before it.

03:56:01.000 Yeah, and I do believe that the weather is going to be giving us more problems than anything else.

03:56:07.000 It's going to affect us every way possible.

03:56:10.000 So we're all going to have to go back to the self-sustainment of growing our own food and trying to find our own water.

03:56:16.000 Well, I think that's the solution, is getting back to the earth, unplugging from the television, loving our families.

03:56:21.000 I think that's how we beat the New World Order, Willie Nelson.

03:56:25.000 Oh, you do?

03:56:27.000 I do.

03:56:27.000 That's the way we do it.

03:56:28.000 And it's the act of God that's causing us to do it.

03:56:31.000 It may be weather patterns that make us have to do it.

03:56:34.000 But it's, again, unfortunately we're not in control.

03:56:38.000 There's somebody up there taking care of us, and they'll make us go back to doing what we need to be doing.

03:56:44.000 Yeah, I see people who are bored, depressed, these yuppies with all this money, they're unhappy.

03:56:48.000 How could they be unhappy?

03:56:49.000 We're on a spaceship flying around the sun at thousands of miles an hour in the middle of the cosmos.

03:56:54.000 We live on this beautiful planet.

03:56:56.000 I get the idea that Willie Nelson never gets bored, that you love life.

03:57:00.000 Oh, I have a good time all the time.

03:57:02.000 I try to.

03:57:04.000 Where is your tour going next?

03:57:06.000 If you're in Tucson now, where are you playing next?

03:57:09.000 We play Tucson, we play here the next couple of nights at a casino, and then we go into San Luis Obispo, California, Reno, Monterey, Santa Rosa, Los Angeles, Indio, Flagstaff, Farmington.

03:57:27.000 Willie Nelson, we're out of time.

03:57:29.000 This has been the most amazing interview I have ever done.

03:57:31.000 I've interviewed so many great people, and I just want to thank you for spending this amazing time with us, sir.

03:57:39.000 I feel like, at a certain level, we're kindred spirits, and I just, I love you.

03:57:45.000 Well, you too, Alex.

03:57:46.000 I admire what you're doing.

03:57:47.000 You got a lot of guts, and just keep doing it, buddy.

03:57:51.000 Well, I guess we're all highwaymen in the end, and we'll come back around, fly that starship across the universe to divide.

03:57:58.000 That's it.

03:57:59.000 All right, Willie, we're gonna roll this song out, and I'll talk to you in just one moment, then I'll let you go.

03:58:03.000 Please stay right there.

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