Alex Jones Show - 20080623_Mon_Alex

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00:00:19.000 live at prisonplanet.tv for viewers right now, and we'll be streaming video for the full two hours with Jordan Maxwell coming up in the third and fourth hour today. - Gabe?

00:00:32.000 Mark Dice is coming up in thirty minutes with a quick ten minute report on the latest developments with Michael Reagan coming out and saying murder children by putting hand grenades into their... I can't even say it on air, it's total perverts what they're into.

00:00:47.000 You'll see that mantra in all their documents, their torture.

00:00:50.000 They're legalizing macabre Jeffrey Dahmer type stuff.

00:00:50.000 It's an obsession.

00:00:55.000 So he'll be popping in with us on the latest on saying kill 9-11 truthers, kill anybody that tries to wake the troops up, murderous, contract killings, the rest of it. 0.80

00:01:04.000 Also, Supreme Court meets Monday.

00:01:06.000 They're going to announce this afternoon, or by the latest tomorrow, the Second Amendment death knell attack that will be billed as a Second Amendment victory.

00:01:14.000 Remember that.

00:01:17.000 Also, really one of the biggest news stories of the day, there's so much today, I'm going to spend time coming up in the next hour on this.

00:01:25.000 I heard about this last Friday.

00:01:29.000 I read the bill over the weekend, and it is so horrible that it's really hard to even telegraph the full magnitude of this.

00:01:38.000 Have a small business.

00:01:44.000 Get ready for Dodd's eBay reporting provision.

00:01:47.000 Buried in the 630 page housing bill, which is very popular obviously with the mortgage crisis, is a provision that expands Know Your Customer and other federal laws that violate the Fourth Amendment and violate the Fifth Amendment.

00:02:05.000 And they've passed other laws.

00:02:08.000 They passed back in, what, four years ago.

00:02:11.000 It was billed in the news as, a new law will give you total privacy with your doctor and with medical records.

00:02:19.000 But in there it states that any prescription, whether it's for a diaphragm or prescription ibuprofen, doesn't matter what it is, that it's instantly uploaded to the federal government.

00:02:32.000 On these databases and systems.

00:02:34.000 Forget a Fourth Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure.

00:02:38.000 Forget a Fifth Amendment against incriminating yourselves.

00:02:41.000 You see, we're all wired into the matrix.

00:02:43.000 We're all under surveillance and then they tell the cattle, oh, you're not under surveillance.

00:02:48.000 Remember Bush?

00:02:49.000 Oh, we don't listen to people inside the U.S.

00:02:51.000 without warrants and it comes out they're listening to everybody, non-terror related.

00:02:55.000 And they say, okay, but it's to keep you safe.

00:02:57.000 Now, under this, eBay, Amazon accounts, any website, any small shopping cart, A lot of these people have shopping carts that might make $200 a year.

00:03:15.000 You know, with little dolls they knit.

00:03:18.000 I know a lot of people that have their own shopping carts that might make $200 a year.

00:03:21.000 I mean, gross!

00:03:24.000 It says you will report, go under federal regulation, have to file reports and report every transaction in live time to them.

00:03:32.000 Total violation of the Fourth and Fifth Amendment.

00:03:34.000 Now I told you that under the National ID Act, because I saw Ridge say it on television when he was Homeland Security Ed and it was on all the documents, and it was in United Nations agreements from 2000 on the World ID Taxation System, they said that when you even swipe your card at a brick-and-mortar store, You are going to have your name attached to even the cash that you're using.

00:04:00.000 So you may pay with cash, but they're going to swipe your card.

00:04:03.000 And the ostensible reason will be, well, we've got to decide which tax bracket you're in for sales tax.

00:04:10.000 And they've also proposed, and have tried to pass at the state level, at the international level, and Europe's actually doing this in many countries,

00:04:17.000 to then whatever you do on the web is instantly uploaded to a government website and then they surveil your account and the accounts in the software that by law they want to be built to automatically report where you don't even have a choice that's the next step ebay and amazon and others are already reporting on people that have sub pages and are selling and using them as a merchant and so uh... this will go into all cash registers all brick-and-mortar stores And that's only one.

00:04:46.000 Remember two weeks ago I went over the five-pronged attack to destroy the internet and I said taxation regulation over every shopping cart, taxation over emails, taxation over bandwidth, and then I heard local talk show host in Austin endorsing it saying, oh this is a wonderful idea.

00:05:02.000 These people are getting the web for free.

00:05:05.000 You having to pay Even more taxes, and have everything you do tracked and traced, and have the power of even reporting on yourself, which violates the Fifth Amendment and Fourth Amendment.

00:05:15.000 That's just being taken away.

00:05:18.000 That is not a good thing.

00:05:20.000 So first there's been denial about all this, and now it's happening, and people are maybe going to wake up to it.

00:05:27.000 So I want to spend ten minutes of the next hour going through this, but that's also in the news.

00:05:36.000 Have a small business?

00:05:37.000 Get ready for Dodd's eBay reporting provision now that Congress has all but decimated the Fourth Amendment with the intrusive so-called FISA bill.

00:05:44.000 It's time to go after small businesses.

00:05:46.000 Deep in Senator Christopher Dodd's 630-page Senate housing legislation is a sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all American small businesses.

00:05:55.000 The provision, which was added by the bill's managers without debate this week, That's outside of committee, folks.

00:06:01.000 They add it right at the end.

00:06:03.000 "...would require the nation's payment systems to track, aggregate, and report information on nearly every electronic transaction to the federal government," explains FreedomWorks.

00:06:11.000 Now, this big public watchdog group read the bill.

00:06:16.000 They did a decent job, but I've now analyzed it.

00:06:19.000 Let me explain.

00:06:20.000 Remember, I've been telling you, you heard about the governor.

00:06:26.000 of New York made a $10,000 transfer and his bank reported it to the FBI and that's how the prostitution sting started. 0.74

00:06:33.000 Number one, that's not true.

00:06:34.000 He was under surveillance before that.

00:06:36.000 And then I came on air and I said, no, no, no, no.

00:06:38.000 The banks are illegally, and that's why they're trying to pass legislation.

00:06:42.000 Everything you do is uploaded.

00:06:44.000 The government's in all of the bank's databases.

00:06:48.000 Kind of like I told you in 96, the NSA doesn't tap your phones.

00:06:52.000 People think when there's water in the lines or a tree falls down on a thing and it clicks, you know, in some phone system a hundred miles away that that's the government listening.

00:06:59.000 That's a local tap if you're hearing clicking.

00:06:59.000 No.

00:07:02.000 Or a private eye doing it down the street from your house or under your house with a tap.

00:07:06.000 That's the only time you hear clicking and stuff.

00:07:08.000 Okay?

00:07:10.000 You don't hear it clicking.

00:07:12.000 The NSA doesn't tap the phone companies, they are the phone companies.

00:07:16.000 Nine billion dollars of whole hubs in 96, 97, 98, 99 put in everywhere and then it came out a year and a half ago and now it's on Frontline, breaking news, oh my gosh.

00:07:26.000 Whole floors at AT&T and everybody else are NSA.

00:07:31.000 Everything runs through it.

00:07:33.000 All I did was read the Telecommunications Act, the Deregulation Act.

00:07:37.000 I mean, it's said by October 1st, every cell phone would be tracked in live time off GPS triangulation.

00:07:45.000 Not GPS on the phone, GPS on the cell towers, triangulating you down to three feet, listening to you, tracking you, and they even, people denied that was happening when I had all the documents, and then they advertise it to you.

00:07:55.000 Oh, track your kids, track yourself, track your husband! 1.00

00:08:00.000 So now they're even making money off of the government tracking system that's on you, but someone who even knows that their phone tracks them will still deny that the government designed it, or by law, ordered that be put in.

00:08:11.000 You see, this is the mega, massive, complete denial.

00:08:14.000 I mean, I have the government documents where they put cancer viruses in your vaccines, where they said they wanted to kill you and your family, where they said they want to brain damage you.

00:08:21.000 We've made films, we've covered them, we've read them.

00:08:23.000 I read some on the air yesterday.

00:08:24.000 People just say, not true!

00:08:26.000 Usually it's not my opinion.

00:08:29.000 People say, well you shouldn't get so upset.

00:08:31.000 How can I rationally not get upset by what's happening when I know it's destroying our whole future?

00:08:38.000 That I know that I'm living in a false reality.

00:08:42.000 By that, the general public is in a false reality.

00:08:44.000 They have no idea the magnitude of what the global engineers have built and are building around them.

00:08:53.000 Okay, so I'm going to get more into that later.

00:08:56.000 It's just completely diabolical.

00:08:59.000 The average cop can't see it, the average FBI guy, the average school teacher, the average banker can't see it.

00:09:06.000 It is so diabolical.

00:09:07.000 It is at the scientist, think tank level, and there are thousands of people that plan this, who do know the full picture, and then a few hundred owners.

00:09:16.000 And that's it, and they control it, they guide the whole thing, it's institutionalized, they do it in upgrades, globally, you'll see the same system, even have the same name put in, With the welfare workers, and the surveillance, and it's all being put into place.

00:09:30.000 And every step they said they'd follow, they're following.

00:09:33.000 Towards releasing controlled bioweapons releases, which they'll then use to claim that terrorists hit us, they need more security, tighten down us more, hit us even harder a few years later, tighten down more.

00:09:44.000 And as the last of you are being killed in your compact bunker cities, The cops dying around you out in the streets won't even know it's their government doing it.

00:09:52.000 It's their global system.

00:09:54.000 It's their masters.

00:09:55.000 They'll be looking under beds for Osama, or for whatever new terror group it is, never knowing it's their masters killing them.

00:10:02.000 Now, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this right now, because we don't have a lot of time.

00:10:13.000 We're going to take this clip right now and put it onto the Barry Jennings video and then put that out because I want to expand on the points that Vermus made in the video that's up on InfoWars and Prison Planet.

00:10:26.000 There have been major new developments, and if you go to Infowars.com, you can see those big new developments in the 9-11 Truth Movement.

00:10:33.000 Emergency official witnessed dead bodies in the World Trade Center by Paul Joseph Watson.

00:10:39.000 At Infowars.com, Curt Nimmo has the story, bodies in WTC7.

00:10:44.000 Jennings' interview demolishes official version.

00:10:47.000 Let me briefly tell you what happened, then I'm going to throw it over to Burmese, and we're going to play the clip of Barry Jennings.

00:10:52.000 Barry Jennings was the Deputy Head of Emergency Management there for New York City.

00:10:58.000 He went into Building 7.

00:11:00.000 There were steaming coffee sandwiches.

00:11:03.000 They were told, get out of the building with a phone call.

00:11:06.000 They get out.

00:11:06.000 There's explosions that have gone off.

00:11:08.000 He's stepping over dead bodies.

00:11:11.000 And this is before either North or South Tower, the 110-story towers, had fallen.

00:11:18.000 He had told some local news that, on record that day.

00:11:24.000 So Jason Burmiss and Dylan Avery and Corey Rove, they go out a year ago for Loose Change Final Cut.

00:11:29.000 They interview him.

00:11:31.000 They play little clips on air but don't say who he is.

00:11:35.000 And suddenly he gets threats.

00:11:36.000 They threaten to fire him.

00:11:37.000 All this stuff happens.

00:11:40.000 And so, even though he agrees that we can use it, and we have that contractually, him agreeing to use it, and whether it be important for the movement, important to get it out, we didn't put it out.

00:11:50.000 I was one of the executive producers on Lose Change Final Cut.

00:11:54.000 Then, the BBC backtracks who it is, this Guy Smith guy, who came and interviewed me and did this hit piece, a previous hit piece on 9-11, and I'd say, what about Northwoods?

00:12:03.000 What about U.S.

00:12:04.000 troops massing to invade Afghanistan the weeks before?

00:12:06.000 And he would, no, no, that's not going in the piece.

00:12:09.000 Total hit piece.

00:12:10.000 And at the end of it, he said it was fair and balanced. 0.90

00:12:11.000 At the end, he just laughed at me and told me I was a nut.

00:12:15.000 It was a big joke.

00:12:16.000 I mean, totally disingenuous.

00:12:18.000 Then, about a month ago, I was on BBC Radio debating him, and he said he was involved in this new Building 7 piece that's coming out, and they interviewed Barry Jennings for it, and we've seen the trailer.

00:12:30.000 Now, a few months ago, they interviewed Dylan Avery in Denver for this.

00:12:34.000 And the same guy, Smith, and he comes over and says, I hear it's a lie.

00:12:38.000 I hear that you guys are making it up that Barry Jennings said that he was stepping over bodies in Building 7 or there were explosions.

00:12:46.000 And I hear there's not video of him.

00:12:48.000 Well, Dylan happened to have it on his phone.

00:12:50.000 And played it!

00:12:51.000 And tried to play it for the cameras.

00:12:53.000 I'll bet bottom dollar unless they pull it and re-edit it and we expose the History Channel when they did delay it a few weeks and did change some stuff.

00:12:58.000 Because I pointed out that Hearst Publishing owned it and that I had heard they had an ad for the book not letting them know it was conflict of interest.

00:13:06.000 And so they did have to go cut that out of the...

00:13:08.000 of the hit piece.

00:13:09.000 So they may go try to change this now, but what we've been told is basically they edit craftily and Jennings has been pressured.

00:13:16.000 He said, "Well, it looked like bodies.

00:13:18.000 I thought it was bodies.

00:13:19.000 It might not have been bodies.

00:13:21.000 I meant the stuff on the floor was like bodies." And Dylan says, "No, here's the clip." So we want it on record.

00:13:28.000 They were shown this clip.

00:13:30.000 They were shown what you're about to hear.

00:13:32.000 Jason, you did a great job on that YouTube video you and Aaron put up.

00:13:36.000 It's up on InfoWars, but in the next six, seven hours, we're going to get a new video up with this info, and this is what's important.

00:13:42.000 People need to understand that We had to put this video out because now they're going to try to misrepresent or spin what Jennings has been saying.

00:13:51.000 When all along, you guys saw him on the news say something similar, you just went and got the interview with him.

00:13:58.000 The BBC is also going to try to cover up why they announced Building 7 fell.

00:14:03.000 A lot of stuff's happening.

00:14:04.000 Jason?

00:14:05.000 We got this interview last year.

00:14:05.000 Absolutely.

00:14:08.000 In June, actually.

00:14:10.000 And he was a really nice guy.

00:14:12.000 He had seen the loose change 2nd edition.

00:14:14.000 He'd even played it in his office for other co-workers.

00:14:17.000 He didn't believe the official version at all.

00:14:19.000 It's very apparent in the interview that we do, even in the little bits and pieces we put out there.

00:14:24.000 And he did say that those explosions happened prior to either building collapse.

00:14:28.000 He was trapped on the 8th floor until about 12.30, 1 in the afternoon.

00:14:32.000 And when they did get him down into the lobby, He was stepping over bodies.

00:14:36.000 I mean, it's as clear as day.

00:14:37.000 And we know that the official version, the 9-11 Commission report, and 9-11 commissioners have said there was no loss of life in that building.

00:14:43.000 Well, we know there was loss of life in that building.

00:14:46.000 It was just an excuse for them not to cover it.

00:14:47.000 But it came out years later that Secret Service agents and others did die.

00:14:51.000 And there's bombs going off, explosions, nothing in any of the other buildings.

00:14:51.000 That's right.

00:14:55.000 The other towers are smoking.

00:14:56.000 They haven't collapsed.

00:14:57.000 And there's explosions going off, I guess to clear people out of there.

00:15:02.000 And they're saying, don't look down.

00:15:04.000 And there's bodies that he's stepping over.

00:15:06.000 And the larger issue here is, when we said we had this interview, the debunkers who were congenital liars admit that they lie.

00:15:13.000 to fool the public.

00:15:14.000 They said we were liars and said that we didn't have this tape.

00:15:17.000 Then they said Jennings didn't say that.

00:15:18.000 Now they've got the BBC coming out and saying that, so we have to set the record straight and put this out.

00:15:24.000 But it's not just Jennings, it's other firefighters, police, emergency workers saying there was a countdown to bring seven down later.

00:15:30.000 That's the Kevin McPadden story.

00:15:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:15:33.000 But when you look at it, I mean, this is a 47-story skyscraper.

00:15:37.000 It is a ultra-spook house.

00:15:38.000 We have the largest CIA base outside of Langley.

00:15:40.000 We have the largest Secret Service office in the world.

00:15:43.000 And the two emergency workers that went up there, Barry Jennings and Michael Hess, went to an abandoned Office of Emergency Management.

00:15:53.000 This should have been fully manned.

00:15:54.000 They were both shocked to see that there was, you know, still hot coffee, half-eaten sandwiches.

00:15:59.000 Michael Hess was actually there to meet Giuliani, who had gotten a warning to get out that morning.

00:16:04.000 Although that's not on the YouTube clip, Barry Jennings does mention that Hess was there to see Giuliani and was freaking out because he couldn't get a hold of the mayor.

00:16:13.000 So, why was this Office of Emergency Management totally evacuated?

00:16:18.000 And why is it that someone called Barry, and once he found out he was in Seven, told him to immediately leave if there was no threat?

00:16:25.000 Yeah, we need another article at Prison Planet.

00:16:29.000 Basically headline, you know, emergency manager says bombs and buildings, dead bodies, you know, why this is an important interview.

00:16:37.000 You know, A, they're trying to suppress it and spin it.

00:16:39.000 B, they said it didn't exist.

00:16:41.000 C, he corroborates what other people are saying.

00:16:43.000 He's an emergency manager, deputy head.

00:16:45.000 I mean, you start adding all this together, he's corroborating the bombs, he's corroborating big explosions and dead bodies before either of the two towers, you know, hundreds of yards away collapse.

00:16:56.000 It's just absolutely amazing.

00:16:58.000 And now they've obviously pressured him and gone and interviewed him, but watching some of the clips online, it sounds like he almost says the same thing, but then they just tell you, oh, that's not what you really heard.

00:17:07.000 Kind of like the spin that the producer of this new hit piece, Guy Smith, when I was debating him on radio, he said, well, they knew the building was going to come down all day, so BBC just got it wrong and said that it had already come down.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, magically, three buildings never collapsed from fire.

00:17:22.000 Modern Steel Buildings, now three of them do, and then magically BBC and CNN say it's collapsed in its own footprint, a total collapse, and then they give the official collapse.

00:17:31.000 I mean, it's like them trying to make excuses about New Zealand, Australian, and Thailand newspapers reporting before Lee Harvey Oswald was even captured, before his name was out in the U.S., having it printed that Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President.

00:17:45.000 Well, they got a time zone off by an hour.

00:17:48.000 And that's admitted.

00:17:49.000 I mean, you guys can't get away with this stuff.

00:17:51.000 I mean, you run your black ops, you're going to be exposed.

00:17:53.000 Stay there, Jason.

00:17:54.000 Let's come back.

00:17:54.000 Folks, this is huge news.

00:17:56.000 Make sure this video gets out to everybody.

00:17:58.000 Stay with us.

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00:21:17.000 Huge 9-11 developments.

00:21:18.000 We need your help getting this story out.

00:21:21.000 Barry Jennings, deputy head of the Office of Emergency Management in New York City.

00:21:27.000 On the day of 9-11, he came out and said, man, there were bombs, things going off, dead people in Building 7 before either tower fell.

00:21:33.000 The media covered that up.

00:21:35.000 Jason Burma, Dylan Avery, the Loose Change crew, they went, they interviewed him.

00:21:38.000 They were going to put it in Loose Change Final Cut.

00:21:41.000 They just made noises about somebody high up in the emergency system saying this.

00:21:46.000 The establishment figured out who it was and went and threatened him, threatened his job, things like that.

00:21:51.000 He called Dylan and others and told them that.

00:21:53.000 Said, I know I said you could use it, but please don't put it in your film.

00:21:58.000 And even though we had a moral responsibility to put it out to everybody, I argued against it, but I wasn't going to try that, even though I was the executive producer and could probably have, you know, made them do it.

00:22:06.000 I said, fine, but this is a big mistake.

00:22:09.000 And then the neocons came out and said we were liars, we didn't have this interview, it didn't exist, Barry Jennings had never said that, and then there's this BBC guy who did this big disingenuous hit piece, told me it wasn't a hit piece, but then a few days into the interview with him, This is a part two he's doing on Building 7 last year. 0.87

00:22:27.000 He just starts laughing at me and saying, I think you're nuts.

00:22:31.000 And I mean, literally just laughing with his crew.

00:22:33.000 And I was like, whoa, I've never had this happen.

00:22:35.000 I mean, literally just like giggling.

00:22:37.000 And I'd say, but what about Building 7?

00:22:40.000 What about Operation Northwoods?

00:22:43.000 What about how the U.S.

00:22:45.000 masked all these troops to invade Afghanistan in the months before?

00:22:48.000 And he just said, we're not putting that in the film.

00:22:50.000 And he just would laugh at me.

00:22:52.000 And then they went and said that the Loose Change guys had said that there was paper found in a lake that was only a mile away, but that we used MapQuest and it showed four miles.

00:23:03.000 When we never said that, the Associated Press and others said eight miles away.

00:23:07.000 Eyewitnesses said that who people have interviewed.

00:23:10.000 There was news footage of it.

00:23:11.000 So it was all straw men, just made up.

00:23:14.000 That's what they do.

00:23:14.000 They make up stuff we haven't said.

00:23:16.000 Or they go get kooky 9-11 truth groups who are operatives or mentally ill and then say that we are saying what they say.

00:23:24.000 And so I again debated Guy Smith on the radio and he said, told me a few months ago, yeah I got a BBC piece on Building 7 coming out.

00:23:34.000 And I said, oh yeah, and BBC says they've lost the tapes.

00:23:37.000 uh... of uh... that day when they announced that the building fell, building seven before it did, twenty five minutes and he said real slightly, oh we found them again and giggled.

00:23:47.000 We ought to get those clips off that interview.

00:23:49.000 See how funny it is?

00:23:50.000 They had five to one debating me on that show and would fade me down and wouldn't give me any time but but that's the point when people demanded the tapes Because at first, BBC was denying it was real.

00:24:01.000 Then they said, OK, it is real, but we don't have the tapes.

00:24:03.000 And they said, oh, we found them, and then he giggles.

00:24:06.000 It's very funny, you know, to manipulate the slaves, to be on a power trip.

00:24:10.000 And then...

00:24:12.000 They're now putting this out, and they supposedly have Barry Jennings debunking in that.

00:24:18.000 So, we've just put the video out.

00:24:20.000 A bunch of it.

00:24:20.000 There's more we'll be putting out.

00:24:22.000 It'll be in the film, Fabled Enemies.

00:24:24.000 But that's only one issue of why we're releasing this.

00:24:26.000 The other keys here, I mean, the bombs in the building, the fact that there was explosions before Tower 1 or 2 fell, the fact that Giuliani was out of the building, the fact they were told to get out of the building, the fact Giuliani later admitted that, then denied he said it, and then had to admit it.

00:24:39.000 See, I mean, we've caught them here, folks.

00:24:42.000 Yeah, absolutely, and another big issue is that supposedly the 9-11 Commission found no evidence of this.

00:24:47.000 This is what Thomas Kean set out in Texas, and we have it in loose change, final cut.

00:24:52.000 Well, how could they have no evidence of dead bodies when they talked to Barry Jennings?

00:24:56.000 How could they have no evidence of explosions in the building prior to either tower collapse when they talked to Barry Jennings?

00:25:02.000 And it was several years after Well, that's why this is a big deal.

00:25:06.000 the 9-11 commission.

00:25:08.000 Yet it's odd.

00:25:08.000 His testimony didn't make the final report, and Building 7 is only in a footnote and never actually discussed.

00:25:14.000 Well, that's why this is a big deal.

00:25:16.000 There was an attempted cover-up of this out of the goodness of our own hearts, and the guy saying, please don't.

00:25:21.000 We said, okay, you want a private life?

00:25:21.000 please don't do this.

00:25:23.000 We will do the right thing for you, the wrong thing for the country and the world.

00:25:27.000 But then he goes and does the interview.

00:25:29.000 Uh-uh, gloves are off.

00:25:30.000 Here it is.

00:25:31.000 This is a cover-up unraveling.

00:25:33.000 Did you just hear what Jason Bermas was saying?

00:25:35.000 We're going to recap it all in one minute.

00:25:37.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:25:44.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

00:25:50.000 Our beloved Republic is on her knees.

00:25:52.000 The forces of globalism are destroying national sovereignty worldwide.

00:25:56.000 But in Liberty's darkest hour, there is hope.

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00:26:01.000 Go ahead and get Dyson on in five minutes.

00:26:02.000 Hey, Jones?

00:26:04.000 Thanks, buddy.

00:26:05.000 Jones?

00:26:06.000 We're going to recap it all in one minute.

00:26:09.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:26:17.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

00:26:22.000 Our beloved Republic is on her knees.

00:26:24.000 The forces of globalism are destroying national sovereignty worldwide.

00:26:28.000 But in Liberty's darkest hour, there is hope.

00:26:30.000 The first time in modern history, the people are beginning to wake up.

00:26:33.000 It is essential that patriots worldwide accelerate their fellow man's understanding of the New World Order Master Plan.

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00:27:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:27:09.000 You want answers?

00:27:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:27:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:27:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:27:22.000 We're going to play the very Jennings clip here in just a moment.

00:27:27.000 But recapping, Barmus, in the next four and a half minutes, break down why we're doing this and why it is important and why it's so big for listeners to get this video out to everybody, to explain to everyone why this is so important.

00:27:42.000 First of all, it is very important for the listeners to get this out because this totally and completely eviscerates the official version as of the 9-11 Commission Report.

00:27:51.000 Without a doubt.

00:27:52.000 So let's go through the points here.

00:27:54.000 What happened to Barry Jennings?

00:27:55.000 Point one.

00:27:56.000 He was called after the first plane strike.

00:27:59.000 Okay.

00:28:00.000 So he was in the building prior to the second plane strike.

00:28:03.000 That is also in the video.

00:28:05.000 Now, when he's taken up to the Office of Emergency Management on the 23rd floor, he is with Michael Hess, who is the City Corporation Counsel at the time, and now heads up Giuliani Partners.

00:28:16.000 When they go up to the Office of Emergency Management, which should have been fully manned, it had been deserted.

00:28:23.000 Okay?

00:28:24.000 Now, the elevators were all shut off.

00:28:26.000 They had been taken up by a police triage that was already at the building through a freight elevator.

00:28:32.000 So, Michael Hess found the stairwell.

00:28:35.000 They start going down the stairwell, again this is prior to either tower collapsing, and there is a huge explosion from underneath them that pushes them back to the 8th floor.

00:28:43.000 Now this is all on record.

00:28:45.000 Now they're stuck in that building hearing all types of explosions thinking that they're going to die until about 12.30 to 1 in the afternoon, when the firefighters finally do come down to get them.

00:28:56.000 They come to a lobby that is unrecognizable, that is blown to kingdom come.

00:28:59.000 And this is very important, too, because in this little video, in the wrap-up, I show you what the Millennium Hilton looks like the next day.

00:29:06.000 Not only on the facade on the outside, but I take you inside the Millennium Hilton, where literally there's still vases, the couches are okay.

00:29:13.000 By the way, we also have video of the front of Building 7, and it's got a few windows knocked down, and we know that Poplar Mechanics is showing a gray-faced building that's got the corner knocked out when the Building 7 was red.

00:29:26.000 It's a fake!

00:29:27.000 These are the folks that gave you the Remington photos for the Spanish-American War!

00:29:30.000 I mean, there's no end to these people!

00:29:32.000 That seems to be the case.

00:29:34.000 There seems to be no video corroboration whatsoever for that quote-unquote chunk of the building missing.

00:29:39.000 Now we also show you in this video footage after at least one of the towers has collapsed of inside building seven where they literally run up to the main lobby from the south face.

00:29:50.000 Now the south face has a couple windows knocked out but it's not this towering inferno.

00:29:54.000 There's not quote-unquote twenty five percent of the building scooped out.

00:29:59.000 Now, another big point is the fact that when Barry Jennings and Michael Hess got out of the building, they both went on separate local news programs and told the exact same story.

00:30:10.000 It was never followed up upon.

00:30:12.000 It was only until years later, when we put two and two together, that the man Barry Jennings, who was in the FEMA report describing these explosions, which was brushed off as the first tower falling, was the same man that was on the videos with Michael Hess.

00:30:26.000 And you went and interviewed him and said, no, there were explosions before either tower fell.

00:30:30.000 Again, proving more lies in the commission.

00:30:33.000 I mean, this is so key, folks.

00:30:35.000 Absolutely.

00:30:36.000 And he says that there were many, many explosions and said even when he had gotten out of the building at one in the afternoon, he was told that he had to get down, I think, 10 or 20 blocks and run because they were having reports of more explosions at the time.

00:30:49.000 Now, let's be clear.

00:30:52.000 All day they're announcing it's going to explode, it's going to fall, get back.

00:30:55.000 We know they keep backing the time up for it.

00:30:58.000 They finally do bring it down and we have cops saying get back, they're going to bring the building down, it's about to blow up.

00:31:03.000 And they say, well, they just knew it was about to blow up, because they knew it was about to collapse.

00:31:07.000 However, they say, get back, get back, it's about to blow, it's about to... It falls down.

00:31:10.000 I mean, this is 2 plus 2 equals 4.

00:31:13.000 Now we have Silverstein saying, pull the building.

00:31:15.000 That means a controlled demolition.

00:31:16.000 In their own documentary, they admit that.

00:31:18.000 I mean, we've got them.

00:31:19.000 This is unbelievable.

00:31:21.000 They can ignore all these EMTs and police saying, get back, they're going to blow it.

00:31:24.000 They can ignore...

00:31:27.000 You know, all these eyewitnesses, even Amy Goodman, saying investigate it further.

00:31:30.000 But they can't ignore their own deputy head of emergency management saying.

00:31:33.000 That's right, and that's why they have to spin it.

00:31:35.000 They have to put it in with other information, disinformation and misinformation, in order to try to distort his story.

00:31:41.000 And to finish up here.

00:31:44.000 We probably need to add that to the clip, that he's a fan of you guys seeing the film.

00:31:48.000 So that adds the fact he's saying inside job.

00:31:50.000 I mean, that's the overall what you got from him?

00:31:52.000 Oh, when we were there, he was the boss of the department floor.

00:31:56.000 Stay there.

00:31:56.000 I want to hear more about this.

00:31:57.000 Sure.

00:31:57.000 Stay there.

00:32:01.000 It is a big idea.

00:32:03.000 A new world order.

00:32:05.000 In the near future.

00:32:07.000 They have to spin it.

00:32:07.000 They have to put it in with other information, disinformation and misinformation in order to try to distort his story.

00:32:14.000 And to finish up here... We probably need to add that to the clip that he's a fan of you guys seeing the film.

00:32:20.000 So that adds the fact he's saying inside job.

00:32:22.000 I mean, that's the overall what you got from him.

00:32:24.000 Oh, when we were there, he was the boss of the department floor.

00:32:28.000 Stay there.

00:32:28.000 I want to hear more about this.

00:32:29.000 Sure.

00:32:29.000 Stay there.

00:32:33.000 It is a big idea.

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00:35:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:35:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:35:09.000 You want answers?

00:35:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:35:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:35:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:35:22.000 There is a reason that the Morning Joe on MSNBC, that Glenn Peck on CNN, that Bill O'Reilly, all of them are saying we need to be arrested, we need to be killed, we need to be taken to secret camps and tortured.

00:35:35.000 Morning Joe, the military needs to be used against us. 0.92

00:35:38.000 9-11 truth must die. 0.93

00:35:41.000 And now Michael Reagan, ninth largest radio host in the country, according to Talkers Magazine and others, four million listeners per day, said, kill Mark Deiss, kill 9-11 truthers. 0.99

00:35:52.000 If they talk to the military, if they engage in their First Amendment and expose 9-11 as an inside job, murder them.

00:35:58.000 He has not been fired, he has not gotten in trouble. 0.91

00:36:00.000 If any of us said, kill people, we would be arrested within hours. 1.00

00:36:05.000 If we said, go out, kill them, I mean it, I'm serious, I'll pay for it, kill them, we'd be arrested. 1.00

00:36:10.000 So, we know this is serious because, look, they understand they're protecting a system. 1.00

00:36:14.000 Most of them know their boss has carried it out.

00:36:17.000 That makes them even scarier.

00:36:18.000 That's why Congress goes ahead and does what they're told.

00:36:20.000 It's not just the payoffs and the money and the corruption.

00:36:23.000 I mean, it's scary, folks.

00:36:24.000 We're in a very scary time.

00:36:27.000 Now, the deputy head of the Office of Emergency Management, Barry Jennings, came out with one of the other government heads that day and said, man, there were bombs, dead people, Building 7 was blowing up.

00:36:38.000 This is before it even fell.

00:36:40.000 And then we went and interviewed him, and then he got scared, he got threatened, the spooks found out, we talked to him.

00:36:46.000 He said, please, I know you, I said you could use it, but don't.

00:36:48.000 Then I guess they got to him and said, you better talk to the BBC.

00:36:51.000 He did, and he said stuff like, well, I think there were, it looked like bodies.

00:36:57.000 I guess it might not have been.

00:36:58.000 I don't know why there were bombs and explosives going off.

00:37:00.000 So they're going to try to spin that and they're going to try to make excuses, as I've debated the producer of it on another show a few months ago, about, well, we all knew Building 7 was coming down.

00:37:09.000 That's why we reported it fell with it right behind us.

00:37:12.000 Ignoring the cops saying, get back, they're bringing it down, they're going to blow it up.

00:37:15.000 I mean, ignoring all this.

00:37:16.000 We've got them, folks!

00:37:17.000 People always say something this big, they'd be caught.

00:37:19.000 We're going to go to Mark Dice in a moment, but the point is everybody can feel it, you can see it.

00:37:24.000 I mean, we had So many people going public.

00:37:29.000 So many people speaking out.

00:37:31.000 German defense ministers, high-level members of the British Parliament, members of Blair's government, UN human rights chiefs over whole investigative arms.

00:37:41.000 We've got former Italian presidents, former intelligence chiefs of Germany.

00:37:47.000 All of this.

00:37:48.000 Hollywood stars, best actress, Willie Nelson, Charlie Sheen, Martin Sheen.

00:37:55.000 All these big rock stars have been going public. 0.96

00:37:58.000 I mean, it's getting Every day now, you can't even keep track of everybody going public, and so they're getting scared and going, look, we'll kill you!

00:38:06.000 And now, I've been sending a lot of YouTube videos and things, and you'll go to their websites, they'll be Marines or Army, usually Force Recon or Special Ops, they'll have their handle, and most of it's videos of them in training, and it'll be them saying, Stop now or we're going to kill your animals.

00:38:26.000 I don't want to even give them attention.

00:38:28.000 Or they'll use a South Park clip saying, we're going to kill a bunny on the bus. 1.00

00:38:32.000 Do what I say, I'm going to kill the bunny. 1.00

00:38:33.000 Stop now or you're dead. 1.00

00:38:34.000 We're now getting all these videos and clips they use for movies about, one more time and you're dead.

00:38:38.000 And they're sending it to 9-11 truthers. 1.00

00:38:41.000 Or they'll say on their own message board, yeah I'm in the Marines and I can't wait to line you up and shoot you all in the head. 0.99

00:38:47.000 And then you go and they're really in Iraq saying this to us. 0.98

00:38:50.000 And so they're getting scared, folks.

00:38:52.000 They know we're interfacing with the military.

00:38:54.000 They know we're interfacing with the police.

00:38:55.000 They know we're waking the majority of them up.

00:38:58.000 The New Order needs these people to take over.

00:39:01.000 They're getting real scared, so they're trying to intimidate us.

00:39:03.000 And I got news, man.

00:39:04.000 We're all committed.

00:39:06.000 I mean, I don't want to die, but at the same time, I'm committed, and if they're forced to kill me, that means I'm really getting to them.

00:39:14.000 I mean, that means that we're really winning.

00:39:18.000 And that is a desperate act.

00:39:19.000 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.

00:39:22.000 As Gandhi said.

00:39:23.000 So just in closing, Jason, this is huge.

00:39:26.000 This isn't a cop or a firefighter on the street.

00:39:29.000 Some EMT we've interviewed who's credible, who people ignore, who said, I heard the countdown, you watch footage of the cops going, get back, it's about to come down, they're about to blow it up!

00:39:37.000 Or firefighters all, you know, a firefighting captain going, yeah, there was molten metal, you know, running down the channel rails, totally molten, and they say we're lying, there's no molten steel, when NASA's own aircraft show the molten steel thousands of degrees above jet fuel.

00:39:52.000 The debunking isn't working, don't you understand?

00:39:55.000 It's over for you terrorists! 0.98

00:39:57.000 And I know your military mindset was, well, we've got to fight the Muslims, they're so evil, we killed 3,000 because Americans are wimps and had to get a wake-up call that it's for your own good. 1.00

00:40:06.000 And if we have to kill more of you for your own good, we will. 0.99

00:40:09.000 That's the ultimate rationale. 1.00

00:40:12.000 Don't you have the feeling we've got the momentum?

00:40:14.000 Don't you in your gut know we're going to bring you to justice?

00:40:17.000 I mean, aren't you figuring that out yet? 0.97

00:40:20.000 That we're not going to stop and you can kill us, threaten us?

00:40:23.000 I mean, you think threatening my children Literally, folks, I was getting burned out.

00:40:29.000 I was getting exhausted.

00:40:30.000 I was getting tired.

00:40:32.000 I was getting to where you guys saw me around the office, you know, just fighting to be able to continue staying focused because I had so much going on in my mind and so much I want to do and so much frustration and so much little minutiae I've got to deal with.

00:40:43.000 And it threatened my family.

00:40:43.000 It's like, boom!

00:40:44.000 Now I suddenly don't have to sleep.

00:40:45.000 I suddenly am just back in total mode.

00:40:49.000 You guys have helped me.

00:40:50.000 I already knew you did it. 1.00

00:40:51.000 I already knew you're murderers and drug dealers and criminals and child sex slave traffickers. 1.00

00:40:56.000 I mean, it's all admitted mainstream news. 0.99

00:40:59.000 But to have you personally threatening me over and over again and threatening others, it lets me know that you really are who we say you are. 0.99

00:41:05.000 You really are a terrorist. 0.98

00:41:06.000 Burmas, anything else you want to add? 0.96

00:41:08.000 I just want people to get this story out.

00:41:10.000 It is very important that we have somebody who can have his story corroborated from video of that day, and there is no doubt that he was in Building 7 experiencing these explosions.

00:41:20.000 can totally take down the official version.

00:41:22.000 And if he comes out and recants all this, why would he tell a newscast and the guy he says he was with tell the same story separately from each other?

00:41:29.000 Why would he then, five and a half years later, tell you that to then six and a half years later, tell another story to the BBC as he's being promoted up the ranks?

00:41:38.000 Absolutely.

00:41:39.000 And why wouldn't Michael Hess return my calls or faxes or emails?

00:41:42.000 I tried to get Michael Hess before I even knew who Barry Jennings was, because I had his name from the news station.

00:41:48.000 But of course, Michael Hess didn't want to go on camera.

00:41:50.000 Anything else you want to add before we go?

00:41:51.000 No, that's all.

00:41:52.000 That's all I have to say.

00:41:53.000 Thank you very much.

00:41:54.000 It's important that people grab this video.

00:41:56.000 We're going to upload it the next hour to PrisonPlanet.tv.

00:41:59.000 We don't have the personnel.

00:42:00.000 We need your help.

00:42:01.000 Get it.

00:42:01.000 Cut out the best pieces of the last 30 minutes with me and Burmess.

00:42:04.000 Don't count on one guy to do it.

00:42:05.000 Do different versions.

00:42:06.000 I love how listeners do that.

00:42:08.000 Send them to us.

00:42:08.000 We'll post them.

00:42:09.000 We'll magnify them.

00:42:10.000 Our listeners will get them out later.

00:42:12.000 Aaron was here until 5 in the morning with Burmess.

00:42:13.000 He's asleep.

00:42:14.000 He's going to come in and try to edit some of this video we've just shot here live into the Barry Jennings piece to really let you know how important it is.

00:42:21.000 There's a video up there right now where Burmess gives the basic facts and then plays it.

00:42:25.000 It's just I really want to explain why this is so important.

00:42:25.000 It's decent.

00:42:28.000 People won't know how important this is unless we explain all those facts.

00:42:32.000 See, Burmess, we get too close to it. 0.93

00:42:34.000 We're so inside the game and all the names and the facts and the data, we forget that even kind of passive 9-11 truth, a lot of this is Greek to them. 0.59

00:42:42.000 I mean, just a few months ago, we couldn't say who Barry Jennings was, and the debunkers were saying we were lying and it didn't exist.

00:42:48.000 And I can't believe the BBC thinks going to him and trying to twist what he says.

00:42:52.000 And what I've been told is he repeats the same thing.

00:42:54.000 He just kind of says, well, it looked like bodies.

00:42:56.000 Well, I thought it was bodies.

00:42:57.000 Well, I thought it was explosions.

00:42:59.000 Well, they did tell me to get out, but that's because we knew seven, I guess, was going to come down.

00:43:02.000 Well, why did you know that, see?

00:43:04.000 But, I mean, let's be clear.

00:43:06.000 We went to break and you forgot to say.

00:43:08.000 You told me privately in other discussions off camera.

00:43:10.000 He's like, oh hell yeah.

00:43:11.000 I mean, how far did he go saying insults?

00:43:13.000 Extremely far.

00:43:14.000 He didn't even know who we were.

00:43:16.000 We don't tell people who we are when we go to interview them.

00:43:19.000 We say, look, we're interviewing for a new documentary.

00:43:22.000 Would you like to be a part of it?

00:43:22.000 And he said that.

00:43:23.000 And while we were sitting there, he said, you know, I was in one of these documentaries.

00:43:27.000 And kind of playing, you know, coy, knowing he was in ours.

00:43:30.000 I said, oh really?

00:43:30.000 Which one?

00:43:31.000 And he said, uh, the Michael Myers one?

00:43:33.000 I go, Michael Moore, Fahrenheit 9-11?

00:43:34.000 He's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:36.000 He's like the conspiracy one.

00:43:37.000 And I go, Loose Change?

00:43:38.000 And he's like, yeah, I love that movie.

00:43:40.000 He had a copy in the office.

00:43:42.000 He had been showing other co-workers.

00:43:43.000 And it was at that point that Dylan and I said, yeah, that's our film.

00:43:47.000 And we're making a new one right now.

00:43:48.000 And he was like, oh, that was you guys?

00:43:50.000 That's a great movie.

00:43:51.000 And I play it here all the time.

00:43:53.000 And then he started pulling in other workers to introduce them to us.

00:43:56.000 All right, this is key info.

00:43:58.000 Let's be clear.

00:43:59.000 So you'd say he was a 9-11 truther?

00:44:00.000 Absolutely.

00:44:01.000 He knew exactly what it was.

00:44:02.000 And the other co-workers were coming in going, this is the guy!

00:44:04.000 Yeah, he was like, these are the guys that did loose change, and everybody it seemed in the office had seen it.

00:44:11.000 Not everybody agreed with us, but everybody who came in shook our hands for sure.

00:44:16.000 Now let's be clear, the guys that were running the Emergency Command Bunker, he's now the head of it at that time.

00:44:22.000 I can't say which division he was in, but he's the head of a division.

00:44:26.000 Yes, and the Office of Emergency Management is really a hub for all these different borough divisions, and he was one of those.

00:44:32.000 Exactly, he was a chief.

00:44:33.000 He was the head of the floor, for sure.

00:44:36.000 For sure.

00:44:37.000 So, you know, he had his own little TV and DVD player in the office, and he was sharing 9-11 truth with his co-workers.

00:44:42.000 But then, after he got the heat, just when it leaked, That this went on, now he's trying to, well from what I've been told, he's not completely backing away.

00:44:52.000 No, he's not backing away.

00:44:54.000 He's a year closer to retirement.

00:44:55.000 When we talked to him, he was two years away from retirement.

00:44:59.000 I really feel like he wanted to make sure he had his pension for his kids.

00:45:02.000 He was a family man.

00:45:03.000 And he was very, very worried.

00:45:04.000 We literally sat in his office for two hours to get the okay that we could do this interview.

00:45:09.000 So that's why we've never said exactly where he worked or for what department.

00:45:13.000 Because he then, after we leaked this, they were threatening to fire him and take away his pension.

00:45:19.000 And that would be the last thing I would like to do.

00:45:20.000 But we're not going to let them do that.

00:45:22.000 No.

00:45:22.000 And the point is, he did the BBC, so we're forced to do this.

00:45:25.000 Because, again, I want to repeat the key, and we're going to go to Mark Dice here, I want to repeat the key to all of this.

00:45:31.000 That is that Dylan sitting there with the BBC, the same Guy Smith guy that laughs at me and basically admitted to me it was a hit piece in private and said he thinks I'm nuts, who said it wasn't a hit piece up front, kind of disingenuously.

00:45:44.000 This same guy went and said, well it's a lie, Barry Jennings didn't say that.

00:45:48.000 It's not true, you don't have video.

00:45:49.000 And Dylan pulls the video out and I bet my bottom dollar that is not going to be in the film.

00:45:53.000 No, I guarantee that's not going to be in the film and that's another reason why we had to put this stuff out.

00:45:58.000 They may pull it now and delay it, like they did the History Channel piece.

00:46:01.000 We made them delay that release by two weeks, because they went and pulled stuff out.

00:46:05.000 Because we expose them, so we're preemptively countering the BBC propaganda ministry of truth right now.

00:46:13.000 Absolutely, and that's another reason to put it out. 0.97

00:46:15.000 It was going to be in Fabled Enemies anyway, but why not put it out two weeks before their hit piece to show what liars and hypocrites they are? 0.99

00:46:21.000 Absolutely. 0.97

00:46:22.000 Let's go to Mark Dice and we'll hold him over to the next segment after that.

00:46:25.000 Then I've got some financial news coming up and a lot more.

00:46:28.000 Mark Dice, what do you think of what you just heard?

00:46:31.000 Oh, it's just the evidence keeps coming.

00:46:33.000 We've got to continue to get the word out.

00:46:35.000 And, you know, like you said, we're at the third stage of the four stages of a fight, and they're attacking us now.

00:46:41.000 We're getting closer to victory, so let's just continue it, and we'll pick this up on the other side.

00:46:46.000 Well, Mark Dice, for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, I'm going to continue a four-minute discussion with you and Burmese, and we'll come back with you alone on the main radio network transmission here at Genesis.

00:46:55.000 Everybody else, go to the InfoWars streams.

00:46:57.000 You'll be able to hear this right now.

00:47:00.000 Okay, bring me Mark Dice.

00:47:04.000 Okay, great.

00:47:06.000 Yeah, Mark, I don't want to waste any time here, so let's write now for four minutes with you and Jason.

00:47:11.000 I mean, give us your take on this subject now, then we'll come back and talk about the Reagan stuff.

00:47:16.000 What do you think about this?

00:47:19.000 Well, it's not surprising.

00:47:21.000 It's very encouraging that somebody would come forward, and again, we can't fault the man for not wanting to lose his pension and lose his job.

00:47:28.000 He's got a family to support.

00:47:30.000 We need to just create this climate that's safe for everybody to get this information out, which is part of what I wanted to do with Operation Inform the Soldiers.

00:47:38.000 And so the more people that we get out there, the more people that get to address these issues, the safer it will be.

00:47:44.000 And that's why people say, exactly, people say, oh, it doesn't matter if Willie Nelson or Charlie Sheen or Martin Sheen are Best Actress of the Year or German Defense Ministers or former Italian Presidents or high-level members of the Japanese Congress, Diet.

00:48:01.000 Yeah, just a few years ago.

00:48:08.000 I mean, we would address these issues to our friends and to our neighbors at a whisper, just afraid of any retribution, even from them.

00:48:14.000 And so it's gotten from that point now to where most of these talking heads have to admit that a third of the country is on board with us.

00:48:21.000 And if we just continue to plow forward, continue to get this information out, Non-stop, we're going to get other people to continue to come forward, witnesses, other high-level, key public officials, other professionals, other experts, and so we're not going to stop.

00:48:37.000 And this loser, Michael Reagan, just energized the movement and galvanized it.

00:48:42.000 We're going to talk about that when we get back from break, but in the two minutes that we've got here before we come back, I mean, I really am not putting a good face on it, being a cheerleader. 0.50

00:48:52.000 I know we're waking people up, and Mark Dyche, you used that two-and-a-half-year-old number of 36% believing it's a total inside job.

00:49:03.000 national poll that they put out.

00:49:06.000 We know from studying polls that if you ask somebody a really radical, shocking question, about half of them will lie and go with the politically correct answer.

00:49:16.000 So 36% got the Scripps Howard News Service call and said, do you believe the government carried out the attacks?

00:49:23.000 And 36% or more than a third said, yes I do.

00:49:26.000 It was like 36.7%.

00:49:29.000 But even the polling companies, and I've talked to Zogby and others, and they agree with my analysis, it's probably double that number.

00:49:35.000 It's just another 30-40% weren't willing to say it.

00:49:38.000 Now, when they've had these spontaneous one-time IP polls, it's always 82-83-84, 82-83-84, on CNN, Fox, every channel has these, and these are somewhat scientific compared to classical polls because you only get one vote per IP.

00:49:54.000 You know, one only lets you vote once, and you keep getting that 80-plus number.

00:49:59.000 Okay?

00:50:00.000 And we get that 80-plus number in Kennedy assassination, that 80-plus number on the war.

00:50:04.000 80-plus percent of the country doesn't believe a damn thing the government says.

00:50:09.000 And so I think when we use that 36 number, that is the most conservative.

00:50:13.000 Burmish, you want to comment on that?

00:50:15.000 Yeah, I feel like one third of the country is very aware that 9-11 was an inside job, and this is the third of the country that's actually paying attention, Alex.

00:50:27.000 This is the one that kind of goes through the mainstream media on a daily basis, but also comes to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and all these other alternative websites.

00:50:38.000 Within the youth, I would say it's probably even double that for sure.

00:50:41.000 If they were to take a poll of people 25 and under, I think that you would see 60 to 70 percent.

00:50:47.000 Listen, I'll be at the gym around, you know, old guys, you know, executives or whatever, and they'll go, hey, Alex Jones, and I'll go, and it'll be both guys on both sides of me.

00:50:55.000 I go, what do you think of the show?

00:50:56.000 You're probably right about it, but what are we going to do?

00:50:59.000 And he goes, oh, hell, I was in Special Forces in Korea.

00:50:59.000 And I'm like, what about 9-11?

00:51:03.000 Don't have to tell me about it.

00:51:04.000 I mean, I was at the beach and old men were down there in the exercise area and they were agreeing.

00:51:08.000 I mean, it just seems like everybody... Oh, we're going back live.

00:51:10.000 Here we go.

00:51:13.000 Planes, they that build all the bombs.

00:51:18.000 They that hide behind walls.

00:51:24.000 They that hide behind desks.

00:51:29.000 Okay, going to Mark Dice to talk about what's happening with him and Michael Reagan. 0.99

00:51:34.000 For those that don't know, Mike Reagan said, go out, kill him, murder him, I'll pay for it. 0.99

00:51:41.000 Kill the other 9-11 truthers, anybody that talks to the troops, anybody that educates them about it being an inside job. 1.00

00:51:48.000 And we got Mark Dice on with us. 0.98

00:51:51.000 Now, here's the deal.

00:51:53.000 It's clearly fair use.

00:51:54.000 Mark's commenting on it.

00:51:56.000 They took down a bunch of our videos.

00:51:57.000 They took down dozens of other videos we know of.

00:52:01.000 Where we play a short clip and comment on it.

00:52:04.000 They even took down videos that were criticizing Mark Dice, I mean, that were criticizing Michael Reagan, that didn't even have Michael Reagan on it. 1.00

00:52:12.000 They've been pulling clips of him saying, put hand grenades in babies' rectums and murder them, kill the Muslim babies. 1.00

00:52:20.000 I mean, they are something else. 1.00

00:52:22.000 And is your YouTube account still shut down, Mark Dice?

00:52:27.000 The entire YouTube account is shut down.

00:52:30.000 All videos have been pulled.

00:52:31.000 I filed a counter... By the way, you had millions of views on your videos.

00:52:37.000 Yeah, over 60 videos, a three-year-old account almost, and just numerous links, hundreds of links to those videos, and the entire account has been closed.

00:52:48.000 I filed a counter suit with YouTube, trying to get it back up, trying to make them understand that this is just a A fair use claim?

00:52:57.000 You mean countersuit?

00:52:59.000 Or a counterclaim, rather, to attempt to reinstate the account.

00:53:04.000 So that's in the works right now.

00:53:06.000 I just got word, too, that Michael Reagan is officially above the law.

00:53:12.000 The U.S.

00:53:13.000 Attorney's Office will not be pressing charges against him for his comments and any other future threats against me by his listeners or by anybody else will then be investigated, those people individually.

00:53:28.000 But Michael Reagan himself has officially been let off the hook and still has a job.

00:53:33.000 Now, this sets a precedent, but don't believe that for a minute.

00:53:36.000 If I go on air and even say hypothetically, and I'm not saying do this hypothetically, if I said, go kill Michael Reagan, I'll pay for the bullets, hell, the cops may edit that and come arrest me right now.

00:53:47.000 I would go to prison immediately. 0.81

00:53:48.000 They'd probably kill me in the SWAT team, right? 0.99

00:53:50.000 They use any excuse to come kill you nowadays. 0.97

00:53:52.000 That's how it works.

00:53:53.000 Not only that, but his listeners would then call for violence against you and for others, and it just goes to show the state of our hearts, the state of the We don't want any violence against him until we take the republic back and then they all get due process.

00:54:13.000 We know he went to the White House, got propaganda points.

00:54:16.000 That's illegal.

00:54:16.000 We know he's on their payroll.

00:54:18.000 Then he will be brought to justice in a Nuremberg-style trial.

00:54:23.000 It's interesting, the president of his radio syndicator, Radio America, his name is Jim Roberts, he's also the president of the American Veterans Center, and the American Veterans Center and Radio America's headquarters is literally five miles away from the White House, across the river.

00:54:39.000 Oh yeah, it's a completely government run, that's come out, yeah.

00:54:43.000 Oliver Norris involved, it's a huge, yeah.

00:54:46.000 Yeah, they're protecting Reagan.

00:54:48.000 He still has a job.

00:54:49.000 Who knows what will happen with the FCC.

00:54:51.000 There is a petition now on my site to get Michael Reagan removed from the school board, I believe.

00:54:57.000 He's on the school board of his Notre Dame High School, where his kids go in Sherman Oaks, California. 0.97

00:55:02.000 As he says, murder babies. 1.00

00:55:05.000 Stick hand grenades in babies' rectums and murder them. 1.00

00:55:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:09.000 Yeah, and this is a man that's on a school board, so we're trying to get him removed from the board.

00:55:14.000 Maybe we can give out the number to the American Veterans Center.

00:55:17.000 This is the center that's in charge of the United States Memorial Day Parade in Washington, D.C.

00:55:23.000 It's a very large, very powerful veterans group, and this president, Jim Roberts, is also the head of this syndication company, and they're taking no action against Reagan for his comments.

00:55:34.000 Yeah, give the number out.

00:55:37.000 The number for the American Veterans Center is 703- 302-1012 or you could go to AmericanVeteransCenter.org and if we can't get a hold of him or his studio at Reagan at Radio America is not responding then maybe we can get through to the American Veterans Center and reach Mr. Jim Roberts over there again.

00:56:04.000 That number is 703-302-1012.

00:56:13.000 Well, Mark Dice, here's the deal.

00:56:15.000 As you know, in Germany, from 33 to about 40, they would let the SA, the SS beat up whoever they wanted, rob whoever they wanted, harass, and it all started like this.

00:56:27.000 And just thank God we've got our Second Amendment to protect ourselves.

00:56:31.000 And I just feel sorry for anybody that tries anything violent with you or me or anybody else. 0.98

00:56:35.000 Because folks, we're not looking for a fight, but you, anybody lays a hand on me, I'm going to kill you so fast, it's going to make your head spin. 0.99

00:56:42.000 I'm armed. 1.00

00:56:43.000 I will defend myself.

00:56:45.000 Stay with us.

00:56:45.000 We'll be right back.

00:56:46.000 I want to talk to you during the break.

00:56:50.000 Okay, Mark, I wanted to bring Burmese in during this segment again.

00:56:54.000 Burmese, anything else you want to add to all this?

00:56:56.000 Well, I just want to let people know that we can't let this stand.

00:56:59.000 We need to spread this story.

00:57:00.000 We need to email, and we need to make Operation Inform the Troops that much stronger.

00:57:04.000 You know, you make those care packages fun. 1.00

00:57:06.000 You put in some good food.

00:57:07.000 If you are lucky enough to be able to afford a DVD player, maybe you put that in there with a copy of Terraform.

00:57:12.000 Hell, they're like 30 bucks now.

00:57:13.000 Yeah, they're like 30 or 40 dollars, and you can get one That's 30 or 40 bucks that plays DivX.

00:57:18.000 By the way, we're going to put a DivX version of Truth Rising for PrisonPlanet.tv members and it's made, and most of the new players are DivX, they'll play both kinds, and so this is a huge activist tool.

00:57:29.000 We're going to do that, a DivX version for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

00:57:33.000 Yeah, and you can literally put four movies on a 4.7 gigabyte disc that'll play in DVD quality no problem on these players and that's what we need to do.

00:57:41.000 We need to keep informing the troops.

00:57:42.000 We need to keep giving them more and more information so when they come back here they're not all jack-booted up to shoot me in the nuts.

00:57:48.000 And by the way, the fries are a best buy.

00:57:49.000 You can even buy for like 50 bucks an imprinter that on blank DVDs will put the label you want.

00:57:54.000 Put something in there like George Bush Memorial Church Gathering, or put a name on it like... Or Spider-Man 3.

00:58:03.000 Spider-Man 3.

00:58:04.000 Just info, attack the New World Order, the savage globalists destroying our country and using our troops to do it.

00:58:10.000 Fight these modern Hitlers. 0.55

00:58:12.000 We are not like the Germans who went along with it. 1.00

00:58:14.000 We are going to fight the whole way.

00:58:18.000 Absolutely, and I'm not going to back down. 0.92

00:58:20.000 It doesn't matter how many of these threats I get by all these disgusting talk shows. 0.99

00:58:24.000 When you're literally advocating not only the death of babies, but the murders of their mothers as well, and that the only way that the Middle East is ever going to become peaceful is if we kill all of them. 0.99

00:58:36.000 This man is calling for genocide. 0.95

00:58:38.000 And by the way, he's on the Armed Forces Radio Network. 0.97

00:58:40.000 They then sit off the road, these young 18-year-olds, totally whacked out of their minds, and the family drives by in a minivan, and they just shoot them, and they fall out dying with their children, and they laugh, and then the military admits these are real videos, and Marines post on the pages and say, yeah, they're real, and we're going to take over and kill you, Alex Jones!

00:58:57.000 Well, there's no doubt that they're real. 0.99

00:58:58.000 And you bet we're killing dogs, and you bet we're killing people's cows, and we're going to kill you! 1.00

00:59:02.000 And they're coming back to be cops, folks! 0.99

00:59:04.000 I've got an article right here, the military secret weapon, And it shows Prozac.

00:59:09.000 Do you know what causes psychotic breaks and psychotic killing?

00:59:13.000 That's your cops, murdering killers from Iraq on a drug that makes them psychopathically killed. 0.99

00:59:18.000 Go ahead.

00:59:18.000 Yeah, when I saw the video that you were just talking about of the car deaths, I was just shocked.

00:59:23.000 And what it is is... The video?

00:59:24.000 There's hundreds.

00:59:25.000 Well, I'm just talking about the one where the rock and roll is playing in the background.

00:59:29.000 Elvis Jim.

00:59:29.000 Yeah, there's about four people in the car and they just start letting off machines.

00:59:33.000 Well, they kill three carloads.

00:59:34.000 Yes, and the last carload would have no idea that's even being shot at till it's too late.

00:59:40.000 They're going down a main by Baghdad Highway, it's contractors, and they're just randomly shooting cars and laughing.

00:59:46.000 And there's other videos that are sitting off the road of a highway, families driving by, shooting women.

00:59:46.000 Yeah.

00:59:50.000 I mean, they're all coming here to rule.

00:59:52.000 You understand?

00:59:53.000 They bring in the drugs.

00:59:54.000 They run the narcotics.

00:59:55.000 They run the child kidnapping rings.

00:59:57.000 They plant the bombs in the buildings.

00:59:58.000 They dominate.

00:59:59.000 They pose as conservatives.

01:00:01.000 They wrap themselves in the flag as they destroy the borders, as they come after your Second Amendment. 0.70

01:00:06.000 I'm just sick of them!

01:00:07.000 We've got to go live.

01:00:08.000 Here we go with Mark Dice.

01:00:09.000 Thank you, Burmas.

01:00:10.000 Got it.

01:00:10.000 Okay, I'm going to give you some financial news in about five minutes.

01:00:20.000 I appreciate Mark Dice popping in with us.

01:00:22.000 Mark, you've got the floor.

01:00:23.000 I just want to say you did a great job with that Michael Reagan interview.

01:00:28.000 It sounded to me from the YouTube clip like they'd edited some of your interview that you did with him in a taped interview, but they did air that, thank God.

01:00:35.000 And you did a great job there.

01:00:38.000 We need to see Operation Inform the Troops intensify.

01:00:40.000 You've got the floor, Mark Dice.

01:00:42.000 Yeah, it was interesting.

01:00:44.000 They did edit out one part where I informed his listeners that it was a pre-recorded show that was 8.30 in the morning my time, and I wanted everybody to know it was a pre-recorded show.

01:00:52.000 I took precautions to ensure that they wouldn't edit out any important information.

01:00:58.000 Also, yeah, I don't want this to overshadow Operation Inform the Soldiers.

01:01:01.000 Another aspect, what we can do is send them CDs of the Alex Jones Show and other shows, other broadcasts, Send them CDs on MP3 or even burn a CD as a WAV file so they can listen to it in their Discman or give them some flash drives or some MP3s.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, thumb drives are great.

01:01:20.000 Thumb drives are great.

01:01:21.000 They can put it on their MP3 player or their iPod and listen to it.

01:01:25.000 Also, you can... Markham, Markham, Markham Family Videos or stuff like that.

01:01:30.000 Yeah, pictures from home, photos from home, something like that.

01:01:33.000 Again, they're trying to make sure that no material is going to reach the troops.

01:01:38.000 But don't think that'll stop us.

01:01:40.000 We need to hit the bases and everywhere wherever we live.

01:01:43.000 We need to go in and get the info in there.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, another aspect, not only just sending it overseas, but here at Camp Pendleton, California, other military bases around the country to the soldiers before they even go over there.

01:01:56.000 So they can spread the word amongst their own groups and amongst their peers and their commanding officers over here so that they know what's going on and that once the higher-ups know, that everybody knows, their whole system's just going to come collapsing down.

01:02:09.000 That's right, and we've got one of the deputy heads of emergency management coming out saying inside job.

01:02:13.000 And that's for the first time ever.

01:02:15.000 Burma's telling you about him in private.

01:02:17.000 I'd already been told the story a year ago and could never tell it on air.

01:02:21.000 Had to be called a liar and say none of it existed.

01:02:24.000 There it is for everybody else.

01:02:24.000 Well, there you go.

01:02:26.000 Mark, I mean, their whole thing is imploding.

01:02:30.000 It's coming down and I mean every day now more and more people are waking up and so there was a time when I felt like there was a lull in 9-11 truth or I myself was starting to doubt whether we're going to get this information out whether even anybody in the mainstream media was going to cover these issues and Just when I start losing faith, something happens, another big prominent official, another expert comes forward, another instance, another confrontation from one of these criminals on the streets, or a book signing happens, it's posted to the web, makes it to the news.

01:02:57.000 Well that's why this is key.

01:02:58.000 If we weren't on the offensive, they would have already staged more attacks, we'd already be in Iran. 0.98

01:03:04.000 And so this, we're trying to save lives.

01:03:05.000 They can intimidate us and use staged terror events to get the public to buy the end of the Fourth Amendment, the end of the Fifth, the end of the Second, the end of the First, which they're attacking all wholesale and dismantling.

01:03:16.000 If they're able to sell all this, they would have been able to get away with it.

01:03:20.000 But now, everybody knows they're torturing, murdering, drug dealing killers.

01:03:24.000 Everybody knows they killed Kennedy.

01:03:25.000 The shadow government is now being exposed.

01:03:29.000 And now it gives protection to good men and women in the CIA, good people in the FBI, good people in the military, to more and more say no, to more and more talk about all the army investigators they've murdered.

01:03:41.000 General Togumbo, the head Army Brigadier General, who just retired, came out and said, yeah, the government tortures kids, it's murder, it's war crimes, the cover-up's got to be exposed.

01:03:52.000 And it's literally because they like torturing children.

01:03:55.000 And they also like setting the precedent that if they can be the good guys and torture children in the ways that, you know, that... Notice how Reagan said the same kind of things that are in the White House orders? 0.72

01:04:08.000 You see, I mean, imagine putting orders out saying, sodomize little kids. 0.99

01:04:12.000 I mean, these people... And I have to argue with people and say that's wrong, Mark Dice?

01:04:18.000 Yeah, it's just completely immoral.

01:04:20.000 I'm sure that they're going to be pulling those clips as well, and we just got to continue making copies of them, getting them out there, reposting them.

01:04:26.000 And Alex, I got to run, but I want to appreciate, I want to thank everybody for their courage and for helping us out and getting the word out, and just a hat tip to everybody out there.

01:04:35.000 All right, Mark Dice, we'll keep checking in with you as this develops.

01:04:37.000 YouTube account shut down.

01:04:39.000 Put pressure on them and phone numbers up on the side.

01:04:41.000 Thank you.

01:04:43.000 All right, there goes Mark Dice at work popping in with us.

01:04:46.000 We're only 23 minutes away from Jordan Maxwell.

01:04:52.000 23 minutes away from a two-hour interview with Jordan.

01:04:55.000 I called Jordan about two months ago and he said, oh I'm getting too many threats, too many government people visiting me, threatening me, and I believe it's happening to us.

01:05:04.000 And he said, I'm not going to do the interview.

01:05:07.000 And he actually told people that on the web.

01:05:10.000 And then he decided to do interviews, but now he's getting more stuff happening, and I appreciate him coming on today.

01:05:17.000 He's got cancer, he's 70-something years old, and he's a real treasure.

01:05:25.000 But we were able to get him booked again last week, and so he's on the show today, and that is coming up.

01:05:36.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:05:43.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:05:47.000 We're going to be talking to an individual who for more than 50 years Coming up on 50 plus has been fighting the New World Order.

01:05:57.000 We've been having icons on the show like Gilbert Griffin and many others, but I really can't think of anybody when it comes to really delving deeply into the New World Order and exposing so many dark secrets that we now just take as commonplace knowledge.

01:06:13.000 So much of it was pioneered and rediscovered because it was all there in the ancient documents and text by Jordan Maxwell.

01:06:19.000 So we'll be talking to him in just one moment.

01:06:22.000 Before we go to Jordan, you can pre-order my new film, 9-11 Chronicles, Truth Rising, Part 1, Truth Rising.

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01:09:13.000 Okay.

01:09:16.000 I'm really excited about having Jordan Maxwell on the show.

01:09:20.000 I kind of woke up to the New World Order on my own, or kind of on the John Birch Society route.

01:09:28.000 I wasn't part of the John Birch Society, but read stuff like, None Dare Call a Conspiracy, The Private Fellow Deserved, and then I learned about Ron Paul fifteen years ago and got a radio show and was kind of a mainline conservative Republican who was anti-New World Order.

01:09:41.000 Then I found out that that party was controlled.

01:09:43.000 I mean, even as late as nineteen Ninety-eight.

01:09:48.000 Ninety-nine.

01:09:50.000 I wouldn't get into the occult on air.

01:09:52.000 I wouldn't talk about it.

01:09:53.000 I thought, hey, the Federal Reserve is private.

01:09:53.000 I didn't believe it.

01:09:55.000 They do want a world government for their administrative convenience. 0.98

01:09:59.000 It is bad, but there's no occult and, you know, there's dumb conspiracy theorists. 0.94

01:10:05.000 There's no black helicopters. 0.93

01:10:06.000 There's no FEMA camp plans.

01:10:08.000 And then Delta Force invaded Texas.

01:10:09.000 They bribed police chiefs.

01:10:11.000 I interviewed them.

01:10:11.000 I found out they had martial law plans with the San Antonio police chief and the emergency managers.

01:10:16.000 And then I found out about Bohemian Grove, and I found out it was real, and I infiltrated it.

01:10:21.000 So really, I am a Johnny-come-lately.

01:10:25.000 It doesn't matter, we're all Johnny-come-latelys.

01:10:29.000 In this short life we have, the point is we can all move forward, take action.

01:10:34.000 And then I remember Chris Athanas, in about 98, 99, putting Jordan Maxwell videos on.

01:10:40.000 Local access and I remember watching those and looking into it and I already knew a lot of Egyptian history and other history and so I knew it was accurate because I'd already independently learned it but never put it into thought of what was happening today.

01:10:52.000 So he really helped wake me up to a larger world and larger view and Jordan Maxwell continues as a preeminent researcher.

01:10:59.000 An independent scholar in the field of occult religious philosophy.

01:11:02.000 His interest in these subjects began far back as 59.

01:11:05.000 He served for three and a half years as the regional editor of Truth Seeker Magazine, America's oldest free thought journal since 1873.

01:11:14.000 His work exploring the hidden foundations of Western religions and secret societies He creates enthusiastic responses from audiences around the world.

01:11:21.000 He has conducted dozens of intense seminars, hosted his own radio talk show, guested on more than 600 radio shows, and written, produced, and appeared in numerous television shows and documentaries, including the two-hour special for CBS TV Network, as well as the internationally acclaimed five-part Ancient Mysteries series, all devoted to understanding ancient religions and their pervasive influence on world affairs today.

01:11:42.000 His works on the subject of secret societies, both ancient and modern, and their symbols, has fascinated audiences around the world for decades, considering the rapidly moving events of today, and the very real part these hidden religious agendas play in our modern, war-torn world.

01:11:58.000 He feels that controversial subjects are not only interesting to explore, but too important to ignore.

01:12:03.000 His extraordinary presentations include documents and photographs seldom seen elsewhere.

01:12:08.000 Now, we can argue about our interpretation of what Jordan says, but I agree with the info he brings out.

01:12:13.000 I may even disagree with some of his interpretations.

01:12:16.000 on certain things.

01:12:17.000 It's very complex and nuanced.

01:12:18.000 But regardless, we should all have debates about these subjects.

01:12:23.000 He gets into astrotheology, sexual symbolism and world religions, foundations of modern day religion, secret societies and toxic religion, world mysteries, ancient modern, ancient symbols and occult emblems, ancient sciences and technologies, hidden Bible teachings and mysteries, the sun and the history of politics and religion, the story hidden Bible teachings and mysteries, the sun and the history of politics and religion, the story your church doesn't want you to know, secret societies And we may even hold him over a little bit into overdrive today, but I wanted to properly introduce him.

01:12:50.000 Yeah.

01:12:51.000 Jordan doesn't like to talk about himself, but he does have cancer.

01:12:55.000 He is not doing well financially.

01:12:57.000 I've heard him on a lot of shows over the years.

01:12:59.000 He never seems to plug his great books and videos.

01:13:01.000 Go to his website jordanmaxwell.com and buy some of the books and videos and support the guy.

01:13:07.000 It will open up your mind and help you wake up to other issues.

01:13:11.000 Support Jordan Maxwell because he's had 50 plus years of fighting the New World Order and we need to support

01:13:18.000 uh... this uh... gentleman today so jordan maxwell dot com jordan maxwell thank you for coming on with us well thank you alex for having me on uh... yeah i just uh... i can't tell you how much i appreciate your your support and the things you've said and i uh... i thank you for it and yes it's true that uh... i was interested in these subjects as far back as well when i was a you know teenager and

01:13:45.000 And even earlier, when I was a kid, I used to ask my parents and ask the adults around me questions, and they just would look at me with glassy eyes, and they had no idea in the world what I was talking about, and consequently, I just never understood why people weren't interested in the things that I was, you know?

01:14:08.000 And so, at 18 years old, I moved to California, And by myself, ended up in Los Angeles with $9 in my pocket.

01:14:18.000 No family, no friends here, nobody.

01:14:21.000 I had no idea in the world, you know, what I was going to do with my life.

01:14:24.000 But I ended up in L.A.

01:14:25.000 with $9 in my pocket in downtown L.A.

01:14:29.000 And somehow or another, I lived through all of it, but I was fascinated with how much people don't know and how much people don't care to know.

01:14:39.000 And I hear people today say, why don't the Why doesn't the government tell us the truth, and why doesn't the educational institutes really tell us the truth?

01:14:49.000 I think it's because they, the Illuminati, know that we, generally speaking, don't want the truth.

01:14:57.000 We don't want to hear the truth.

01:14:59.000 Now, I've had Jordan Alitas come up to me, I mean, high-level members of government and others, and say, Alex, and they always say, this is off-record, right?

01:15:07.000 And I'm a journalist, so it has to be off-record.

01:15:09.000 And they say, look, the slaves don't want to know.

01:15:12.000 You're basically one of us.

01:15:13.000 You want to be enlightened.

01:15:14.000 You can't help them.

01:15:15.000 You might as well just take care of yourself.

01:15:17.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

01:15:18.000 I mean, I have to say that that is pretty much true.

01:15:23.000 And then I also want to ask the question.

01:15:25.000 How important is it to tell the people the real truth?

01:15:29.000 I mean, like the movie with, uh, you know, when the, when the military guy was asked by the, uh, the kid, you know, well, what do you want?

01:15:38.000 He said, I want to know the truth.

01:15:39.000 And he said, you can't handle the truth.

01:15:42.000 Um, how important is it to tell people the real truth?

01:15:46.000 Because what you're doing, uh, and I've learned this the hard way, what you're doing is you're putting your life on the line.

01:15:54.000 For people who will be entertained for a while hearing you, but they will go on with their regular lives as they always have, watching basketball and doing what they normally do, and life will go on.

01:16:07.000 Of course, you had the big mouth and was telling people something that they weren't supposed to know, so you end up in trouble, maybe even end up dead or in prison.

01:16:19.000 The Internal Revenue finds a bad I think what you're saying is people don't need to take this for granted.

01:16:26.000 They need to appreciate your work, my work, so many others, because it's dangerous and it's valuable.

01:16:30.000 You got that right.

01:16:31.000 while you're sitting in prison, they're out at the kids' baseball game, because they were just entertained by you.

01:16:37.000 Jordan, I think what you're saying is people don't need to take this for granted.

01:16:40.000 They need to appreciate your work, my work, so many others, because it's dangerous and it's valuable.

01:16:46.000 You got that right.

01:16:48.000 That's exactly right.

01:16:49.000 So the question is, are we casting pearls before swine?

01:16:52.000 We've got a break, Jordan, a quick break.

01:16:54.000 We'll come back.

01:16:55.000 You've got the floor.

01:16:57.000 But I want to do this interview a little bit different than other interviews, because you don't like talking about yourself.

01:17:01.000 I want to make you talk about your history, your awakening, because I found talking about people's awakenings tends to wake others up.

01:17:08.000 Your journey, and then I want to get into the basics of the New World Order, their greatest secrets, kind of Jordan Maxwell's greatest hits, because I want to understand your life, your awakening, and then where you see the New World Order going, and we'll take calls.

01:17:23.000 Jordan Maxwell is our guest.

01:17:25.000 He is feeling well today.

01:17:27.000 He'll be with us for the next hour and 40 minutes, maybe longer.

01:17:30.000 We'll see.

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01:17:40.000 Alright, let me talk to him.

01:17:56.000 Jordan Maxwell is our guest.

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01:21:55.000 Anthony Hilder.

01:21:56.000 David Ray Griffin.

01:21:59.000 I guess you could talk about people like Red Beckman, Law That Never Was.

01:22:04.000 People fighting the New World Order.

01:22:07.000 Different genres, but all going in the same direction, trying to wake the sheep up.

01:22:11.000 He's a real icon.

01:22:12.000 We appreciate having him on.

01:22:13.000 Just a network note, we're going to continue and skip this break for Infowars.com listeners and PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

01:22:19.000 Coming up to our next main break, we'll be at 50 after.

01:22:22.000 Jordan Maxwell, let's start off with, you get there with less than $20 in your pocket in LA when you're 13 years old.

01:22:31.000 Go through your life, your awakening process, some of the people you ran into over the years, and what that awakening was like.

01:22:41.000 Well, yeah, I was 18 when I came to Los Angeles, and I had no idea why.

01:22:46.000 I just felt I had to go somewhere.

01:22:48.000 Originally, I'm from the South, I'm from Florida, and I ended up in Los Angeles back in 59.

01:22:55.000 And I had no idea why I was here or what I was going to do with my life, but I just was drawn to the fact that I wanted to know.

01:23:06.000 And so many people today just don't want to know, and so

01:23:11.000 That's what drove me and I've done what I have done with nothing for so many years because I have always appreciated the people who made themselves available for me by doing tapes and records and lectures and teachers who I could go to to learn the things that my heart was burning to know and I would attend all the lectures I could

01:23:39.000 Read everything I could get my hands on, because I wanted to know and I really appreciated those people many years ago that were there out on the front lines like you are today, making the information available so that I could learn.

01:23:55.000 And so that's what I wanted to do with my life at 19 years old, is to gather up as much information as possible and make it available to all that wanted to hear.

01:24:05.000 And so I was very idealistic about that.

01:24:09.000 But I discovered something.

01:24:11.000 I'll tell you a big secret that I discovered.

01:24:13.000 It took me many years to figure it out.

01:24:16.000 But people will always support what they want to hear.

01:24:22.000 They will not support what they don't want to hear.

01:24:24.000 And if you like country music, you're not going to pay money for an opera.

01:24:28.000 If you like classical music, you're not going to pay money to go to an acid rock concert.

01:24:33.000 So people will always support what they want to hear.

01:24:37.000 And so I always assumed as a young person that people were like me.

01:24:41.000 They wanted to know the truth.

01:24:43.000 And so I later on discovered that no, most of the time people do not want to know the truth.

01:24:53.000 They will look at something, see that it's wrong, and then prefer to, as Churchill said, every now and then you'll stumble on the truth, but then you'll pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and go on, act like you never saw it.

01:25:07.000 And just go on and live your life and go to the ball game and have a good time.

01:25:11.000 And one day, what comes around goes around.

01:25:15.000 One day, what you should have looked at, you should have been concerned about, well, when it comes to you finally, and you finally have to see what you could have seen years ago, but you didn't want to.

01:25:29.000 Well, that's what I wanted to do, is to make this kind of information Uh, that I was interested in, available to everyone.

01:25:37.000 And, uh, you mentioned John Birch Society.

01:25:39.000 As far back as 19... I think they were founded in 1959 in Belmont, Massachusetts.

01:25:46.000 Well, I used to send research articles to Belmont back in 1961, 62, and 63 to the Birch Society as it was just getting going.

01:25:57.000 I was doing a lot of research on my own on, uh, On fascism, Nazism, communism, all of the different movements of the bankers, etc.

01:26:07.000 So I would just send in articles, and sometimes I'd see some of my work being incorporated into their literature.

01:26:16.000 And then I began to connect with all kinds of researchers and writers.

01:26:22.000 And the more I learned, the more I realized how much I don't know.

01:26:28.000 I realize, too, that most people don't want to know, and that's what really frightened me, because now we're faced with something that is just absolutely beyond most people's ability to even grasp.

01:26:43.000 And I have no words for it, because I know that this country and this republic cannot be saved as long as there's a flaw in the thinking of the people.

01:26:57.000 Look at your decisions in life are only as good as your information.

01:27:03.000 And if you are not willing to look at all of the truth, then you don't have it yet.

01:27:09.000 And as long as you don't have it all, any attorney will tell you before going into court, if you don't have everything going for you, then don't go.

01:27:17.000 Don't even try because you're not going to win because you don't know the facts yet.

01:27:23.000 So that's what I'm trying to do is help people to learn All the things that they will never be privy to know because they haven't taken the time to do the research.

01:27:33.000 They don't have the time.

01:27:34.000 They got wives and families.

01:27:35.000 Well, I don't have anyone.

01:27:37.000 And I've lost my wife because of my work.

01:27:39.000 I've lost my family.

01:27:40.000 I lost everything I own.

01:27:42.000 Three times my office was broken into and everything I own in the world was taken.

01:27:47.000 And consequently, I paid a heavy price for doing what I do, but I just love Trying to educate and teach people and at least waking them up to what's going on.

01:27:59.000 I've been doing it for almost fifty years now.

01:28:01.000 And Jordan, I want to continue along that and I want to go back and talk about your first research.

01:28:06.000 You know, what led to what?

01:28:08.000 What you were first into?

01:28:09.000 I would imagine the private Federal Reserve, the fascist bankers, funding the left and the right.

01:28:14.000 Because I know from some of your writings that is some of the first things you covered.

01:28:19.000 Let's get into that when we come back and then Well, I've got some really extraordinarily important materials on my website that you can't find anywhere else.

01:28:30.000 Tell the viewers and the listeners out there about some of the books and videos and things that are available on your website.

01:28:38.000 Well, I've got some really extraordinarily important materials on my website that you can't find anywhere else.

01:28:46.000 I've got three books right on the home page that I, two of them I own the books.

01:28:52.000 I own the copyright.

01:28:53.000 That was so important to me.

01:28:55.000 I got the companies.

01:28:56.000 They were very old books I found in an old bookstore.

01:28:59.000 And that was so important to me.

01:29:01.000 I got a grant from the Truth Seeker company that I was working with and got the attorneys to give me the copyright to the two books, so I owned them.

01:29:10.000 And I got grants for a publisher to publish them because I felt it was so extraordinarily important.

01:29:17.000 And two of them are right on my homepage.

01:29:19.000 There's a third one called Occult Theocracy.

01:29:22.000 That one you cannot buy at any price anywhere, and it's just such an important book on tracing the cults and the secret societies, all of them through the ages.

01:29:35.000 It's called Occult Theocracy.

01:29:37.000 And all of it's right there in the e-books.

01:29:39.000 You can download it immediately, get it immediately.

01:29:42.000 And of course all the different, if you go to my download pages, all kinds of extraordinarily interesting documents and materials that it's taken me years to find.

01:29:54.000 And of course I have a lot of DVDs and tapes and things too.

01:29:58.000 But mostly I'm interested in those things which most people will never be privileged to know even exist.

01:30:06.000 That's what's driven me.

01:30:10.000 I want to run over some of the greatest secrets, but first let's talk about More of Your Awakening, when we get back on the main program in just a moment, and then let's talk about basically what the biggest secrets are, the keys to this, and then we're also going to spend a lot of time on those books before the show ends, because some stations only carry the last hour that's coming up.

01:30:32.000 We want to make sure people go to the website and get those.

01:30:34.000 Those are very hard to get books.

01:30:35.000 Here we go.

01:30:37.000 Jordan Maxwell is our...

01:30:54.000 We're going to talk more about his awakening, his process of awakening, that journey.

01:31:02.000 And then we're going to get into, basically, the biggest secrets he discovered, the bottom line on how it works, and what the globalist New World Order, a cult kingdom, a cult theocracy's master plan is, with Jordan Maxwell.

01:31:18.000 Today, the website jordanmaxwell.com, a lot of books, very old books that he owns the copyright to that really break down how they run and control things are there available at jordanmaxwell.com.

01:31:32.000 Before we end the show, we'll also get out a number where you can call and get some of those books and videos.

01:31:37.000 There's also a lot of free videos and things in the download section.

01:31:40.000 Just be sure and check it out.

01:31:41.000 A picture gallery, great website, JordanMaxwell.com.

01:31:46.000 You know, I took off last week and went with my family to the Texas beach to spend a few days with them.

01:31:51.000 And while I was out on the beach, I wrote notes, about 20 pages of notes of what I thought was most important in life.

01:32:00.000 And one of the things I wrote in here is that I was really thinking about what makes me up, who I am.

01:32:07.000 And I thought about being a young man and being ego driven and wanting to be tough and good looking and wanting to get in fights with bullies and kind of those base type things you do when you're young, but that's normal.

01:32:21.000 It's a hierarchy of needs.

01:32:23.000 It's a journey we're all on.

01:32:25.000 And I thought about how I still fall back into ego sometimes, but less and less.

01:32:30.000 It's almost like a long-lost forgotten friend, because it's a great source of energy, ego, but it also blinds you.

01:32:39.000 And I remember decades ago, people would tell me about ego.

01:32:41.000 I couldn't even grasp the concept, even in psychology class, because I was still so controlled by ego when I was 18, 19 years old.

01:32:49.000 But now I understand what it is.

01:32:50.000 I'm totally separate from my quote, mind.

01:32:54.000 I can pull back, look at myself, warts and all.

01:32:58.000 I can analyze what makes humans tick, how we operate, the basic engineering, the basic genetics, what our true values are, what we're truly meant to do, and at the final equation, laying down your life for your neighbor

01:33:14.000 Means that you save yourself, because when you have that attitude of laying down your life for your neighbor, when you do have courage, when you do care about others, when you're not greedy and filled with hate, when you're not just self-centered, you truly are conscious and can now use your brain, and you understand that in a society where we care about each other, and that means sometimes fighting against evil, that doesn't mean just laying back and being a wimp, that you have a better society, a dynamic system.

01:33:38.000 Does it mean we're ever perfect?

01:33:39.000 No, but we're reaching towards something better.

01:33:43.000 And being there, you know, at the beach, laying in the sand, watching my children play and build sand castles, and seeing God's beautiful creation, you know, the firmament.

01:33:53.000 You know, just looking at how wonderful this world is and how Madison Avenue has trained us to feel inadequate, to be unhappy, to not see how great things are, but to not also be able to see all the evil that's in the world at the same time.

01:34:06.000 People are basically blind to the beauty and blind to the ugliness.

01:34:09.000 They've been stunted and kind of shrunken down.

01:34:12.000 They're looking at the world through a Through a straw.

01:34:16.000 They're seeing such a limited perspective.

01:34:19.000 And I have a desire to see them have pleasure.

01:34:23.000 I have a desire to see them be free.

01:34:25.000 I have a desire to see them do well.

01:34:27.000 I have a desire, kind of a builder's desire, which is what we're all meant to be, creators, to see their minds unlocked.

01:34:34.000 And I have a desire to learn more and to challenge myself and to really know the truth.

01:34:42.000 And it's painful to realize that a lot of them don't want to do that, and they want to be caught in snares, and they want to be killed, and they want to have fluoride put in their water, and they want to be injected with cancer, and they want to give their kids mercury shots, and they don't want to know the truth.

01:34:56.000 And I wanted to ask Jordan this question, or make this statement and get his take on it, and I wrote here in a little book That I realize that the instinct to want to build something better for the tribe is a human instinct, and to realize that the human community is bigger than just yourself, and that I want to pass better things on to people, and that all the good things we have is because other good people before us pass them on to us.

01:35:26.000 There's always been this struggle of good and evil within our own species that's being directed and controlled from above, and you can debate what that intelligence is, and Jordan gets into that, but certainly, for those who have studied, it's there, and the elite know it's there, and communicate with it.

01:35:44.000 With both sides of it, or whatever it is.

01:35:46.000 God.

01:35:47.000 But then they control it and put out a false facsimile for the public.

01:35:52.000 But my only message is that I'm not just some do-gooder.

01:35:55.000 I want to transmit knowledge.

01:35:57.000 I want to tell people the mistakes I've made.

01:35:59.000 I want to let them know.

01:36:00.000 I want them to see pitfalls.

01:36:03.000 I want to make films.

01:36:03.000 And I want to write.

01:36:05.000 And it's because I want to communicate with the future.

01:36:08.000 And I can almost feel Tangibly.

01:36:10.000 I do feel it, but is it a facsimile in my mind or is it real?

01:36:14.000 The bouncing back from the future, the information I've already put out, I can feel the good it's created and I can feel it tangibly coming back at me from the future and I know that I stand on the shoulders of those in the past and I can feel myself with my ancestors and others looking back into the past and into the future.

01:36:36.000 And if you really want to get down to what makes Alex Jones tick, at the end of the day, when Jordan was just talking, I was going to share this later in the week, it's that I want to make things better for those in the future.

01:36:46.000 Because I live on through them.

01:36:48.000 I live on through their pleasure and their pain and their exaltation and the births and the deaths and the lives that were all part of a larger species, like a cell in a larger

01:36:59.000 uh... organism in the new world order knows that and tries to block us off from ever becoming truly human and communing with our own species in the universe jordan i didn't mean to spend five minutes to learn everything you have to say but i wanted to say that to you because you talked about wanting to know wanting to warn others having this drive this instinct and i absolutely am a kindred spirit with you on that point is that i have this desire to warn people and to know and learn more myself well uh...

01:37:29.000 I'm so happy that you said those things, because that's exactly what I was going to say.

01:37:35.000 And I'm older and more tired than you are, so you said it so much better than I would have said it.

01:37:41.000 That's exactly what I feel.

01:37:43.000 Precisely what you said is exactly what I feel.

01:37:46.000 When I was young, when I was younger, I was filled with the zeal for knowledge and wisdom and understanding and questioning everything and talking to all the Adults that were out there writing and speaking publicly.

01:38:02.000 I love knowledge and I love the idea of helping my fellow man.

01:38:06.000 I love watching young people.

01:38:09.000 Their eyes light up when you show them something they've never seen before.

01:38:14.000 It's the instinct of a teacher.

01:38:16.000 And the older I grew, the more I loved talking to audiences and helping them to understand.

01:38:22.000 Because, you know, like the Apostle Paul says, teach yourself when helping others so I was learning and I was trying to transmit all the things I was learning to other people but when I took my work publicly back in 1988 I decided to go public and instead of the little Mickey Mouse venues that I had been speaking at the little mom-and-pop bookstores You emerged from the underground.

01:38:51.000 Yes, yes.

01:38:52.000 I had been speaking at little venues, small little venues around Los Angeles.

01:38:59.000 As far back as 1961 and 62, I was giving lectures in libraries and little small groups, ladies' home groups, and all these little venues on secret societies, Bible codes, Knights Templars, Nazi fascism, all of the different secret societies that were operating and how they were connected behind the scenes in European bloodlines.

01:39:25.000 All of that back in the 60s, early 60s, but it wasn't until I was introduced to the work of Myron Fagan, Anthony Hilda put out the records set on Illuminati, That was in late 66.

01:39:42.000 Well I got a copy of it almost right after they came out.

01:39:45.000 And all the pieces came together?

01:39:48.000 All of it came together.

01:39:49.000 It all began to make sense of the things which I was already interested in.

01:39:54.000 Let me interrupt briefly and see if you're on the same page or can expand.

01:40:00.000 This is for people that are listeners of mine and think that I know more or Jordan knows more than you do.

01:40:04.000 Let me explain something.

01:40:05.000 When you get so close to a problem and you understand the different sectors of it, you can be called a master of understanding the New World Order.

01:40:13.000 As Jordan said, you realize how much you don't know.

01:40:16.000 And so I would imagine you discovered thousands of things that Myron Fagan didn't know, but that was the last piece, or the master key, the Rosetta Stone, that the tumblers flipped, and then you went, because I know your research, to a whole new level past him, but we have to understand that it was that step that brought you to the next level, and then you bring others, and then you learn more from new people, and then we just exponentially learn.

01:40:43.000 Go ahead.

01:40:44.000 That's exactly right.

01:40:46.000 And so I was then hot on the track of Illuminati as a philosophical concept.

01:40:54.000 And so I was living in UCLA libraries, USC, Berkeley, I was all over the state.

01:41:02.000 I personally went to all of those because we didn't have the computers and the technology we have today.

01:41:09.000 So I personally Spent years at UCLA's research library, general research.

01:41:17.000 USC, I used to spend days and weeks and months at USC and the stacks late at night photocopying documents from old books.

01:41:28.000 And so the more I learned, the more I knew how much I didn't know.

01:41:33.000 And I was fascinated with every day.

01:41:36.000 I was learning things and it was as if the spirit Was bringing me people and bringing things to me because it's as if the spirit in the universe knew that I wanted to know and that I was eager to learn.

01:41:49.000 And so I was meeting all kinds of interesting people.

01:41:54.000 And, uh, I, it was just blowing my mind.

01:41:56.000 And, and then, uh, like I said, about 1988, after I, I had a nervous breakdown because I lost my wife.

01:42:04.000 I lost my family.

01:42:05.000 I lost everything.

01:42:07.000 But those things happen in life, but I wasn't ready for it, and too much of it came too quickly, and it just overwhelmed me, and I just broke down.

01:42:16.000 Did you lose your wife because of the research?

01:42:20.000 Was she sick of it?

01:42:21.000 Yes, because she decided that she had had enough of me, and whatever it was that was driving me, she wanted no part of it.

01:42:28.000 All the time I was living with her, she never wanted to hear anything that I was interested in.

01:42:33.000 Yeah, Richard Gage's wife, Architects and Engineers from 9-11 Truth, left him over this stuff.

01:42:38.000 It's really sad.

01:42:39.000 I'm blessed to have my wife.

01:42:40.000 And so, you know, that was a terrible blow to me because she just decided she's had enough.

01:42:47.000 That's it.

01:42:48.000 She doesn't want... She used to tell me all the time, why don't you just get a job and be like everybody else and just go along the get along.

01:42:55.000 And I said, my God did not bring me into this world to go along to get along my god brought me here to be who i am and to do what i do i have a high respect for the for the concept of the divine force in the universe that men call god i believe that people certain people are brought here purposely to do work and and uh so i i have a very high regard for spiritual things but not for the whole

01:43:24.000 But not for the whorehouse churches that are Illuminati controlled. 0.97

01:43:27.000 Yeah, not for the corporation's silly ball that we call the religions today, jumping around on stages with their diamond rings and their effeminate haircuts and jumping around falling down. 1.00

01:43:40.000 It's just an incredible display of stupidity. 1.00

01:43:46.000 Look, think about this. 1.00

01:43:48.000 If you were to go to a particular school for 40 years and study one subject for 40 years and one day come out of that 40 years of study and can't even read or form a sentence correctly and cannot hold an intelligent conversation with your fellow man, what kind of a school is that that you've spent all your life in and can't even read?

01:44:15.000 Well, the same thing is true with so many Christians who have been Christians all their life, and spent all their life pursuing a church, teachings, and have no idea in the world what certain words mean, the etymology of words and terms and symbols, corporate logos, flags, Where concepts have come from. 0.52

01:44:39.000 The Obelisk, it's all the complete opposite.

01:44:43.000 Opposite, totally opposite than what you think it is.

01:44:47.000 Well, I mean, that's the issue. 0.95

01:44:49.000 And they have Benny Hinn and all those guys, and it's turned out they get government financing to start them off to make it look stupid, to actually turn spiritual people off.

01:44:59.000 And I've noticed, I want to get your take on this, that the Illuminati, the Globalists are all Whether it's Ted Turner, Maurice Strong, Prince Philip, David Rockefeller, they're all deeply occultic, deeply into this Illuminati religion of killing their fellow humans for the greater good of Gaia, but then they finance all the atheist groups to tell people there's nothing. 0.83

01:45:24.000 So they really want to turn people off from a true spiritual experience, don't they?

01:45:29.000 That's exactly right.

01:45:30.000 There is a world of difference between being A religious and truly spiritual.

01:45:36.000 A true spiritual person is exactly what the Bible has Jesus saying.

01:45:40.000 Go into your inner chambers or go someplace by yourself and pray it.

01:45:46.000 Pray by yourself to your Father. 0.57

01:45:49.000 You don't need to dance around on the stage with diamond rings and make a fool of yourself by jumping around.

01:45:57.000 You know, spirituality is between you and your Creator.

01:46:01.000 And I've always understood that.

01:46:05.000 And I'm just amazed at how many people buy into, never even asking the questions, where are these people getting the money?

01:46:16.000 It's just, I don't have words for it.

01:46:20.000 TBN.

01:46:20.000 Typical TBN.

01:46:22.000 They got statues of pagan gods in their yards.

01:46:30.000 Bacchus Dionysus.

01:46:32.000 One of the gods that has been used to represent Satan is out there in TBN's courtyard.

01:46:39.000 The very symbol that the Christianity has used for the devil is sitting in TBN's courtyard.

01:46:46.000 But, consequently, nobody reads, nobody questions.

01:46:48.000 They also have copies of the Babylonian altar in some of their TV shows, with plants sitting on it, right in front of everybody.

01:46:56.000 The one that was at Ishtar's Gate?

01:46:57.000 Right in your face.

01:46:59.000 Absolutely.

01:46:59.000 What's the name of that altar that the Bible says is Satan's seat?

01:47:02.000 They have copies of it on TV, right in front of you.

01:47:05.000 Yeah, and the trees, the trees all around TPN, as you walk around, you'll see these spiral trees.

01:47:11.000 Those spiral trees all over TPN's lot are called Shiva's phallic, they symbolize the old Hindu religion, the erect phallic of Shiva, the god Shiva.

01:47:25.000 And TBN has them everywhere! 0.80

01:47:27.000 Everywhere you go, you see sexual symbols, occult stuff... And Crouch, admittedly, has all his homosexual mistresses, but then he speaks out against gay people on his show, and then publicly has all his male mistresses. 0.92

01:47:41.000 And look at... I used to be... My friend died, but a very bright guy, who was just an interesting man, lived down in Balboa Island.

01:47:55.000 I used to go down to see him, and he worked at a liquor store.

01:47:58.000 He was very wealthy, but just to have something to do, he worked at a liquor store on the island, Balboa Island.

01:48:05.000 And he used to tell me, I'd go down to sit on the wharf and talk with him about theology and religion.

01:48:10.000 Very, very bright guy.

01:48:12.000 And he would tell me, you know in my liquor store, all the officials from TBN come and buy their booze, and they buy them by cases.

01:48:22.000 Paul and Jane Crouch come down and buy Thousands of dollars in booze and whiskey and all kinds and throw their big parties and... I was just thinking to myself, you know, the people are so stupid. 1.00

01:48:35.000 You know, when... Do you ever have one of those days... Hold on, Jordan! 1.00

01:48:37.000 ...where everything goes right?

01:48:38.000 Uh, John... I get the best parking space at work... John, tonight... Yes, sir?

01:48:42.000 Let me talk to Jordan.

01:48:44.000 Yes, you're talking to me.

01:48:46.000 Hey, uh, we're gonna be... Uh, all the officials from TPN come and buy their booze and they buy them by cases.

01:48:54.000 Uh, Paul and Jan Crouch come down and buy thousands of dollars in booze and whiskey and all kinds and throw their big parties and I was just thinking to myself, you know, the people are so stupid. 0.99

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01:51:55.000 Jimi Hendrix had tapped into what was really going on.

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01:52:11.000 I love the part of this song that says, there are many here among us who think that life is but a joke.

01:52:23.000 Nobody up in this world Hey They are... The mind is an incredible thing.

01:52:30.000 If they willfully want to be stupid and want to be in denial, their mind will engineer itself to build into that reality. 1.00

01:52:39.000 That's what Jordan was saying earlier. 1.00

01:52:43.000 They will decide to believe a lie. 1.00

01:52:47.000 They will decide to be fools. 0.99

01:52:51.000 I can have the Chicago Tribune admitting Dyncor and Halliburton, kidnapped over a million women and children, put them in slave camps, sell them to people to make snuff films. 0.99

01:53:01.000 They even admit it in the newspaper.

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01:53:15.000 You tell a yuppie that and they just laugh at you.

01:53:19.000 It's funny to them.

01:53:20.000 It's funny because they couldn't face the reality of how horrifying it really is. 0.99

01:53:25.000 They are cowards. 0.97

01:53:27.000 And I'm not somebody full of courage. 0.99

01:53:30.000 If somebody's attacking me, I want to stop it. 0.99

01:53:33.000 But see, these cowards are so cowardly, they could have a lion ripping their guts out and they'd probably deny it and go into a blackout and say, a lion isn't tearing my guts out. 0.99

01:53:44.000 Boy, I can't comment on it, because you said exactly what I'm thinking. 0.99

01:53:46.000 That's precisely the point, that the public has left their sanity.

01:53:48.000 cutting his hand off and he's sitting there humming happily in his mind and they say, oh, he's left us, I'm afraid.

01:53:54.000 You know, the public has left us, I'm afraid.

01:53:56.000 Jordan Maxwell, your take on the comments I just made.

01:54:00.000 Boy, I can't comment on it because you said exactly what I'm thinking.

01:54:04.000 That's precisely the point that the public has left their sanity.

01:54:08.000 They have been robbed of their sanity and their humanity.

01:54:12.000 And, you know, I don't know what to do about it.

01:54:17.000 At this point, I just do the best I can to try and help people who want to be helped.

01:54:23.000 Those who don't want to hear it, they're not going to hear it anyway.

01:54:25.000 Finishing up with Crouch, though, I grew up by Bob Tilton, Larry Lee, a bunch of other preachers, and I didn't see the Lees doing a bunch of partying, but with Tilton and some others, I mean, I saw incredible stuff that I won't even say on air in our neighborhood.

01:54:44.000 Oh, I know.

01:54:45.000 That's what I'm talking about, but people love it.

01:54:45.000 I can imagine.

01:54:49.000 I mean, every time you turn on television, the place is just crowded with people, and they're just enjoying it.

01:54:55.000 And what just blows my mind on this is that you see thousands and thousands of people, you know, coming to these churches to listen, and they're learning nothing.

01:55:11.000 Actually, intellectually learning nothing.

01:55:15.000 And, you know, 20 years later, they're still jumping around.

01:55:18.000 Seeking elms and loving the Lord, and have no idea in the world how to read.

01:55:25.000 That the Lord is Baphomet.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, it's just incredible ignorance.

01:55:31.000 People who cannot read, they don't think, they don't question anything, and that's why the entire human race is going under. 1.00

01:55:42.000 Because the human family have lost their ability to even think.

01:55:47.000 Now, Jordan, we've got to start in the next hour, and it's only a 60 second break, 70 seconds with the tag, so stay there.

01:55:53.000 I really want to get into whatever it is you want to cover, whatever areas you want to cover when we get back.

01:55:58.000 I want to bring up a few controversies, a few issues.

01:56:02.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:56:03.000 And you've agreed, he's agreed to stay 20, 30 minutes in the next hour after that.

01:56:08.000 So we've got him another hour and 20 minutes at least.

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01:56:33.000 As well with you.

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01:58:14.000 We'll do that off my phone system in my studio.

01:58:18.000 So that is coming up for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and folks listening on the InfoWars.com streams.

01:58:25.000 Okay, going back to Jordan Maxwell.

01:58:27.000 This is another short break and a long one's coming up, Jordan, but I'm going to go ahead and skip this break to note the network so we can continue to 20 after.

01:58:36.000 You know, I never get into infighting.

01:58:37.000 I never really talk about groups fighting with each other.

01:58:40.000 People tried to even get us to, you know, pick fights with each other.

01:58:44.000 They tried to get other people to do it.

01:58:46.000 I've noticed you never get involved in all that, Jordan, but you have pioneered so much of the research that is now the mainstay of a lot of people out there.

01:58:56.000 And then I get people emailing me saying, what's going on with Jordan Maxwell and this researcher?

01:59:01.000 What's going on with Jordan Maxwell and that researcher?

01:59:04.000 And then I go look it up and find out you've said nothing or done nothing.

01:59:08.000 And that's how the disinfo people, they're key at getting us to fight with each other. 1.00

01:59:12.000 But just on record, tell me about some of the people you woke up to the New World Order, some of the people you educated, who then kind of took your work and then added on to it or did their own thing.

01:59:23.000 Go through some of the folks that we could say that you first met or that you woke up.

01:59:29.000 Well, a classic example is back in 1988 when I first started going public.

01:59:36.000 I had a family that I was very close to here.

01:59:40.000 And one of the boys, I mean, one of the girls in the family, her name was Gloria.

01:59:49.000 Gloria was a young girl.

01:59:51.000 She used to come over to my office in Glendale when I was first going public, and she would tell me about how she just loved what I was doing and loved all the research.

02:00:01.000 And I knew her, I knew the family, and so I suspected nothing.

02:00:05.000 And she asked if she could photocopy all my documents and materials that I was Working on it, of course.

02:00:11.000 So I gave her boxes upon boxes over a two-day period.

02:00:15.000 It was a photocopy shop in the building I was in, so she just spent all day, all afternoon and all evening photocopying all the research materials and documents and everything that I had.

02:00:28.000 And later on, about a year later, I get a phone call from a mutual friend that knew both Gloria and myself, and said, Jordan, you know, there's a new book out with all of your work in it.

02:00:40.000 Uh, the guy's name was Fritz Springmeier.

02:00:42.000 It's called Bloodlines of the Illuminati.

02:00:45.000 And I was shocked.

02:00:47.000 And I, so I called Fritz Springmeier and I said, Fritz, what is this book, Bloodlines of the Illuminati?

02:00:53.000 And he said, well, uh, Jordan, anybody could have done that kind of research.

02:00:57.000 Anybody could have done that.

02:00:59.000 I said, yeah, anyone could have done it, but it was me that did it.

02:01:03.000 And consequently, uh, you know, now it's a big book out there, Bloodlines of the Illuminati.

02:01:08.000 Which French spring mare got from Jordan Maxwell and never even said thank you.

02:01:13.000 I mean, I gave John Rapoport a job, but he didn't have a job and sat for hours with John Rapoport and told him about my work in San Diego when I brought him in and hired him to work with me.

02:01:25.000 Later on, he creates a book called The Secret Behind Secret Societies.

02:01:30.000 It's all my work.

02:01:31.000 And of course, I worked with Richard Hoagland and Zachariah Sitchin around the world five times.

02:01:37.000 I met the company of Truth Seekers, and Zachariah I have the highest respect for, a wonderful man.

02:01:44.000 And Richard Holguin, still a great friend of mine.

02:01:47.000 But I've worked with so many people, and then when I hear lecturers like Jim Mars and Tex Mars, especially Jim Mars, talking about Illuminati and secret societies, I think, hell, I was talking about that stuff back in 62!

02:02:02.000 I was talking about that 45 years ago.

02:02:04.000 But Jordan, I mean, that's also a sign of your success and Myron Fagan's and others that we do want other people to go out and put the information out.

02:02:16.000 Of course we do.

02:02:17.000 But I can certainly see in a case where you think somebody went and got your material and then put it into a book and gave you no credit, that is bad.

02:02:24.000 But at the same time, Well, I understand.

02:02:28.000 Yeah.

02:02:28.000 Well, hold on.

02:02:30.000 We're going to continue on through this break for folks on the Internet talking, and we'll come back for everybody else on the side.

02:02:34.000 Okay.

02:02:34.000 Jordan?

02:02:36.000 No, I mean, I understand your frustration.

02:02:38.000 I understand.

02:02:39.000 I mean, I was the first guy before 9-11 to say they're going to attack the World Trade Centers, and day one I came out and said it's an inside job.

02:02:46.000 And then people came along and said, Alex Jones, you know, he's bad.

02:02:51.000 It's not an inside job.

02:02:52.000 And those same people a year later would say they're the fathers of the 9-11 truth movement, and I'm a Johnny come lately.

02:03:01.000 It is very frustrating, and I think what you're saying is, after a long, fruitful life, it's still very fruitful, you want the credit that's due to you.

02:03:09.000 Well, I just would like to straighten out some of the stuff that's been done that has aggravated me over the years.

02:03:17.000 I realize that the highest form of flattery is to be copied.

02:03:23.000 I don't have any problem with that, but when I When I'm talking about a subject someone taught me, I always give that person's name.

02:03:33.000 Well, so do I. Exactly.

02:03:35.000 I think the point you're trying to make here is, let me guess, because I've seen some of this, I'm not really guessing, you get accused of taking their work.

02:03:43.000 Of course.

02:03:44.000 And that's what drives you crazy.

02:03:46.000 That's exactly right.

02:03:48.000 I know I sat with them personally and gave all kinds of information and knowledge to them.

02:03:53.000 Today they go out and they're They are the big shots who are making all the money.

02:03:57.000 I live in two rooms with nothing.

02:04:00.000 So it's kind of like you're a computer programmer who developed the program and then it's not just that they use your program, they then say it's their program.

02:04:08.000 Yeah, that's very frustrating, especially when you get older and you realize how important the work is.

02:04:16.000 It's kind of like this.

02:04:18.000 I mean, let's say you're the guy that found the North Pole, and then you're reading the history books and it's saying somebody else did it.

02:04:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:04:27.000 And so that's why I want to get this off my chest, because I don't think I'm going to be doing a whole lot of radio anymore.

02:04:34.000 I just don't feel very well Physically.

02:04:39.000 And I just don't have the old drive to talk to people anymore.

02:04:43.000 I just don't have it.

02:04:46.000 I've been right through the calls and had so many terrible tragedies in my life.

02:04:49.000 I just don't feel like doing what I've done all my life.

02:04:53.000 I've lost the joy of my work.

02:04:55.000 Well, Jordan, some stations aren't hearing this little segment.

02:04:58.000 We're back to the full audience in about 30 seconds.

02:05:01.000 Let's come in, make clear that it's the point, that it isn't that you even want credit, it's that People then get credit for your work.

02:05:09.000 So there's a big difference there.

02:05:11.000 And then let's also talk about some of the things you've gone through.

02:05:13.000 And then let's get into some of the biggest secrets in just a moment.

02:05:17.000 And we'll also try to get you some of that support that you need.

02:05:20.000 Because I know Anthony Hilder.

02:05:22.000 I know you.

02:05:22.000 I know that you are one of the very first people to really expose all this at a very deep level.

02:05:28.000 And I want you to know I'm very thankful for you.

02:05:31.000 Here we go.

02:05:35.000 He's the t-rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN radio network Okay to be clear Jordan has always been a very magnanimous very friendly very Helping generous person and I've talked to him on and off air his main point is Like you said in your own words, is that it's not that only that people take a lot of his work and don't give him credit.

02:06:04.000 It's that he then gets emails and posts about, oh this person came out with this and Jordan took it.

02:06:10.000 And I think that's, and then people start fights up between people.

02:06:15.000 I was just talking to Jordan, he's saying he won't be doing very many interviews in the future.

02:06:18.000 It was hard to even get Jordan on.

02:06:20.000 We called him a few months ago, he said he wasn't doing interviews.

02:06:22.000 anymore and then later he called back and said okay i'll come on which we're very thankful for he is ill he needs our support he needs our financial support he deserves that and we'll tell you how to get some of his books and videos before he leaves us they're all at jordanmaxwell.com i mean there you go but we'll talk more about them but i mean let's walk through that specifically on your own words uh you were telling me during the last little behind the scenes interview we were doing for the prison planet.tv viewers that that that yes that people make these fights up

02:06:52.000 and i think it is people in the government disinfo to to to get researchers fighting where people will then say jordan maxwell took this guy's research and you're laughing because you were around 40 years before they even showed up You were around before I was a zygote in my mother's womb.

02:07:09.000 You were doing this, you know, 40 years before, you know, other people popped up on the scene.

02:07:16.000 I've said that even to audiences that some of the people that are out there talking today about this subject of secret societies, the Illuminati, Bible codes, Knights Templars, international banking, all of that stuff I was talking about back in the 60s, early 60s, 62, like I said, a beginning.

02:07:37.000 I used to send a lot of articles to the Burt Society way back in 1661.

02:07:44.000 I was giving a lecture in downtown Hollywood, in East Hollywood, to a Christian group the day that John Kennedy was assassinated.

02:07:54.000 I was giving a lecture in downtown Hollywood on secret societies and occult religions.

02:08:03.000 In 1963, when Kennedy was assassinated.

02:08:06.000 I've been talking about this stuff for 48 years.

02:08:09.000 Well, we owe a debt to you.

02:08:11.000 I mean, let's briefly talk about some of the shoulders that you and others stand on so that we can stand on yours in this fight against tyranny and lies and fraud and dehumanization and greed and control.

02:08:21.000 You were saying Myron Fagan.

02:08:22.000 What about Eustace Mullins?

02:08:24.000 I mean, his work on the Federal Reserve, he really was the guy helping get the book.

02:08:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:30.000 Eusis Mullins did tremendous research for days and weeks and months, writing and has paid the price for it.

02:08:38.000 Has repound.

02:08:38.000 I mean, he helped get that.

02:08:39.000 Has repound, absolutely.

02:08:41.000 And many before that.

02:08:43.000 And I've always said, and I'm famous for saying that, that I'm not the world's foremost authority on anything.

02:08:50.000 I'm just an ordinary man interested in extraordinary knowledge.

02:08:55.000 Well, I think the key here is, though, you codified so much of it, and before you came along, you'd have to go read a hundred high-level Masonic books, you'd have to go to the libraries, look at the real meanings of gods.

02:09:06.000 So what you did is, that knowledge was there, but that was kind of their internal knowledge, and so you did bring to the world so much of what's going on today.

02:09:17.000 I've seen online A little, you know, people trying to create a controversy between you and David Icke.

02:09:22.000 Tell me, I mean, just to set the record straight, because people try to stir up stuff between you guys, let's set the record straight.

02:09:28.000 What's really happening there?

02:09:29.000 Well, I appreciate that, because I've been wanting to talk about this for a long time, because there is a lot, I get a lot of emails and phone calls about, well, you said this about David Icke, or David Icke said that.

02:09:41.000 First of all, I don't have any problems with anything David Icke is talking about.

02:09:46.000 As a matter of fact, I gave him a lot, and he's gotten a lot from me.

02:09:52.000 But I did, in point of fact, myself, in 1992, I brought David Icke to America.

02:09:58.000 I'm the one that brought him here.

02:10:00.000 And I was in San Diego at the time, and a young lady named Alice Ferguson came to my office in San Diego with a man, a friend of hers, named David Griffith.

02:10:14.000 And Alice Ferguson, David Griffith, came to my office.

02:10:17.000 I was pretty much running a company down in San Diego called Truth Seeker Company.

02:10:23.000 And she asked me if I would help bring her friend to America, who was doing, who was very interested in all my work, and he was trying to do the same thing in England.

02:10:33.000 So I said, well, who is this person?

02:10:35.000 And so she said, it's David Icke.

02:10:38.000 So I listened to her for about an hour, and we talked about it.

02:10:41.000 And I said, all right, I'll tell you what I'll do.

02:10:43.000 I'll give both you and David Griffin a job.

02:10:47.000 I'll pay both of you $2,500 a month and I'll get you because they didn't have a place to live. 0.90

02:10:53.000 They were over here to promote David Icke and they didn't have a place to live.

02:10:57.000 They were staying with some friends in San Diego so I got them both an apartment.

02:11:01.000 I gave them both $3,000 apiece to buy furniture for their apartments.

02:11:06.000 I gave them both a job for $2,500 a month, plus they both had the credit cards for the foundation, the corporation.

02:11:15.000 And so I financed her, Alice Ferguson, and ultimately David Icke to come to America, to go to Australia, to go to Canada.

02:11:27.000 And all of that cost money to fly all over the world and to set up lectures for David Icke.

02:11:34.000 And eventually, Alice Ferguson talked with Bonnie Lang, the lady who was running the company, and a couple of other women in the office. 0.80

02:11:44.000 And they decided that, why don't we just fire Jordan Maxwell, get rid of him, and bring David Icke in to take his place?

02:11:51.000 And so that's what happened.

02:11:52.000 I got fired by the same people that I tried to help and bring David Icke to America.

02:11:58.000 I got fired so that David could take my job.

02:12:02.000 But after they fired me, they found out that David was not interested in sitting in an office running a company like Jordan Maxwell, so then the company went downhill from there because I was gone.

02:12:13.000 And they had already fired me, and David didn't want the job, and so they just cut their nose off despite their face, and so the Truth Seeker company is now defunct, and it's no longer around.

02:12:26.000 At that time I was helping, because I had access to the corporation funds, I was helping Richard Hoagland, Zachariah Sitchin.

02:12:36.000 As I said, John Rapoport had no job.

02:12:39.000 I called John Rapoport, gave him a job, got him started again, and he went out and wrote a book on my work called Secret Societies.

02:12:50.000 So, of course, I don't know if we were on the air at the time when we were talking about the Fritz Springmeier with the bloodlines of the Illuminati, but all of that was taken from me back in 1988 by Fritz Springmeier's girlfriend, Gloria Mascarella.

02:13:07.000 So, all of these people that I have, you know, and of course, I was giving lectures in the motion picture studios and all the different recording studios Back in the 70s and 80s, I was going around to motion picture studios at night and just the working class people in the studios would give me a pass. 0.99

02:13:29.000 Yeah, I know some say that they took the idea of the Matrix from you.

02:13:33.000 Is that true?

02:13:34.000 Well, I had a video called Matrix of Power about 10 years before the movie Matrix came out, but I don't think that they Well, maybe they might have been influenced by the Matrix because it was a big seller when it came out.

02:13:50.000 One never knows.

02:13:51.000 But what I do know is that there's that directly from my video with one of my first videos ever done was called the basic slide presentation.

02:14:03.000 And if you get my basic slide presentation, that's the one that may be famous all over the world.

02:14:08.000 And it was a two hour video.

02:14:12.000 Out of that, at the very beginning of the basic slide presentation, and get that, and watch it, and then get the movie, Da Vinci Code.

02:14:22.000 And it is exactly, word for word, exactly, in the Da Vinci Code, at the beginning of the movie, they introduce Tom Hanks as the world's foremost researcher in occult societies and secret societies, and he comes up on the stage,

02:14:42.000 This is in the movie, Da Vinci Code, and he comes up on the stage and he's got a screen and a slide projector, and on the screen, being projected on the screen, is the symbol on the back of the dollar bill with the pyramid, and he walks in front of the projection, so some of it is being projected on him, and he's now pointing to the pyramid, the all-seeing eye, etc.

02:15:06.000 And talking about the Illuminati and secret societies on the dollar bill, etc.

02:15:10.000 That came directly out of my Basics Live presentation, period.

02:15:17.000 Period.

02:15:17.000 It came directly out of my video, and nobody ever called me to send me a check.

02:15:23.000 Da Vinci Code, of course the whole idea of Da Vinci Code was a rip-off of Bajat, Lee, and Lincoln.

02:15:29.000 The entire movie, Da Vinci Code, was an absolute rip-off Of the British writers, Bajent Leigh and Lincoln, and their book that appeared about 15 years before the movie, called Holy Blood, Holy Grail.

02:15:43.000 And so the producers of Da Vinci Code ripped off Bajent Leigh and Lincoln's book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, and made it into a movie, and act like they came up with something new.

02:15:58.000 And there was a lawsuit in England because of that.

02:16:01.000 I'm not the only one that's been ripped off and lied to and cheated and left for dead.

02:16:05.000 There's a lot of people out there.

02:16:06.000 Well, it's just you've made such a contribution to fighting the New World Order, Jordan, that I don't normally even air laundry on the show, but it's important that you be recognized for the work you've done and so people appreciate the work you've done.

02:16:20.000 Now I want to shift gears for the rest of this hour into the biggest secrets, the biggest issues.

02:16:25.000 You know, what makes them tick?

02:16:26.000 Big, broad, you know, basic info.

02:16:29.000 We can go back into more detail.

02:16:31.000 Okay, then let me say then, if you're up for that, just remember that when you ask for something, you know, make sure you're ready for it.

02:16:43.000 Make sure what you ask for, you're ready for, because it might be something that you weren't expecting.

02:16:48.000 Well, I don't entirely.

02:16:50.000 I understand your information.

02:16:52.000 I've read it, looked at it, I've covered it.

02:16:54.000 And I understand it all has a basis in fact, and you believe your interpretation is correct.

02:16:59.000 But the nuance is sometimes I watch one thing you do, it's different, and another it's a little different.

02:17:03.000 But I'm not saying you change your views.

02:17:05.000 I'm saying it's nuanced.

02:17:07.000 So we're not, this show, you can talk about anything you want.

02:17:10.000 The only person that controls what's on this show is Alex Jones.

02:17:13.000 And the guests he has on, and all my guests can talk about whatever they want.

02:17:19.000 The callers can talk about whatever they want.

02:17:20.000 We don't screen calls.

02:17:22.000 Nothing.

02:17:22.000 Anybody that says otherwise is a liar.

02:17:25.000 Stay there.

02:17:26.000 Quick break, Jordan.

02:17:28.000 And we'll come back.

02:17:29.000 You've got a couple minute break you can take, and we'll be right back.

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02:21:44.000 Everybody else will continue after the next break with Jordan Maxwell.

02:21:47.000 We're going to go 20 minutes at least into overdrive to take phone calls for Jordan Maxwell.

02:21:52.000 I'll give you that number at the end of the show.

02:21:55.000 Okay, Jordan, should we start at the end with the globalist master plan, the New World Order, what they want to build on Earth?

02:22:03.000 Sometimes that's the best way to start, or should we start at the beginning?

02:22:07.000 Well, I'll tell you what, start at the beginning, and let me say this.

02:22:10.000 I don't really want to get into the political part of this, because we don't have a whole lot of time left.

02:22:17.000 And besides, everyone who needs to know already knows how bad off we are.

02:22:24.000 I'd like to talk about some subjects that maybe we don't know.

02:22:26.000 Okay, but I do want to get your take on what their final master plan is.

02:22:30.000 I mean, I know what your view is, but also I want to get your latest take, your latest analysis on what their endgame is.

02:22:37.000 But sure, go ahead and start at the beginning.

02:22:39.000 Okay, well, then everybody should get a piece of paper and a pencil and write down a couple of words I'm going to give you.

02:22:47.000 Because I believe these are key words to open up a can of worms that you will not believe.

02:22:53.000 It's going to open up a whole world of research to you that you've never known existed.

02:23:00.000 The first word is Hanseatic League.

02:23:03.000 Spell H-A-N-S-E-A-T-I-C. 0.67

02:23:08.000 Hanseatic League.

02:23:10.000 It's on my website.

02:23:12.000 If you go to my website and go to the Research Department, it goes to the Research, you will see a box saying, Words to Research.

02:23:22.000 Go on the Words to Research and check down into the ages and you'll see Hanseatic League.

02:23:28.000 The Hanseatic League is extremely important to the Illuminati story today.

02:23:34.000 And connected to the Hanseatic League, which most people don't even know exists, is something called, and write it down, Teutonic Zionism.

02:23:45.000 It is not Semitic Jewish Zionism, no.

02:23:50.000 The word is Teutonic. 0.70

02:23:52.000 T-E-U-T-O-N-I-C. 1.00

02:23:56.000 The Teutonic Knights are the German branch of the Knights Templars.

02:24:00.000 That's right.

02:24:01.000 That's the name of the tomb.

02:24:03.000 The Teutonic Zionism. 0.86

02:24:05.000 It's a whole secret order that has been in operation for a thousand years.

02:24:12.000 It is the whole story behind America, England, And the things which are going on on the earth today, and if you don't understand Hanseatic League and Teutonic Zionism, you're never going to figure out the name of the tune and how this thing is being played.

02:24:30.000 And I've been looking at this for 48 years, and I'm telling you that unless and until you have the whole story, you're not going to get to the bottom of anything.

02:24:40.000 Because like I said in the beginning, the first hour, your decisions in life are only as good as your information.

02:24:47.000 And the really extraordinary information has never been allowed to be given to the people.

02:24:53.000 So I'm just getting you started into a truly arcane, occult research.

02:24:58.000 Well, on the Teutonic Knights, it really grew into the Templars and vice versa.

02:25:02.000 That's right.

02:25:02.000 So after they knocked out the Templars, there was still the Teutonic Knights.

02:25:05.000 I only know about the Teutonic Knights because I read Mein Kampf, I read other books about the Nazis, and Hitler thought that he was creating the recreated No, you're getting it. 0.80

02:25:14.000 Teutonic Knights.

02:25:15.000 We know the British follow that.

02:25:17.000 That's right.

02:25:18.000 And again, this goes back to them believing they're the seed of Jesus, they're the God race.

02:25:22.000 You're getting it.

02:25:24.000 That's exactly right.

02:25:24.000 And so that's why people can't get why the political Zionists, who were supposedly Jewish, were funding Hitler, Why Hitler allowed Jews to leave to Israel but nowhere else?

02:25:38.000 Why, at the highest levels, you'll have Zionists right next to top Nazis at Bilderberg? 0.90

02:25:43.000 And it's right.

02:25:43.000 I've said, when you kick in that final door, it's a room full of Nazis and Kabbalists.

02:25:50.000 That's right. 0.91

02:25:51.000 That's exactly what I'm saying, and that's why I'm saying you better go back.

02:25:55.000 And that's what Steven Spielberg is telling us in Renner's The Lost Ark.

02:25:58.000 He's trying to tell you something.

02:26:00.000 Twice, the Nazis. 0.80

02:26:01.000 Three times, the last one, the Nazis are in it. 0.90

02:26:04.000 And the first two times, the Nazis are looking for the Lost Ark of the Covenant.

02:26:09.000 Why would the Nazis care a damn about a Jewish symbol of the Covenant, or the Covenant of the The Lost Ark of the Covenant.

02:26:19.000 Why would Nazis care about the Lost Ark of the Covenant, a Jewish symbol?

02:26:24.000 Why would they care about the Christian symbol of the Holy Grail?

02:26:30.000 The second one, the Last Crusade.

02:26:33.000 Why is he putting so much emphasis on the Knights Templars, the Masonic Knights, orders of the Teutonic Knights?

02:26:43.000 They're trying to tell you something.

02:26:47.000 And so I'm saying, I've been looking at this for a long time, and I'll tell you what the story is.

02:26:53.000 Hanseatic League Teutonic Zionism.

02:26:58.000 It has nothing to do with Jewish Zionism out of the Bible, period.

02:27:03.000 Nothing Jewish about it. 1.00

02:27:05.000 It has to do with a very ancient, prehistoric, ancient concept of a totalitarian dictatorship As a matter of fact, if you go to any good law dictionary and look up the word FAS, F-A-S, FAS.

02:27:22.000 FAS is a Latin word which means God's Law.

02:27:26.000 You look up in a law dictionary and you will look up the word J-U-S, just. 0.95

02:27:32.000 Just in Latin means man's law, from which we get the idea that man's law is justice.

02:27:39.000 No, it's a Latin word, J-U-S, meaning man's law.

02:27:44.000 But God's law is F-A-S, giving us our word, fascism.

02:27:49.000 Fascism is symbolized by the axe.

02:27:52.000 The axe has always represented God and the ancient world.

02:27:57.000 Every ancient civilization ever existed on the earth always used an axe to represent the power of God in the hands of the king.

02:28:08.000 A fasc is simply a hatchet head.

02:28:12.000 with a group of sticks tied together, which is, of course, in the United States Senate today.

02:28:18.000 And in Washington, D.C., you'll see where the president stands at the podium on both sides of the FAS-ism, because F-A-S-L-I-S. 0.95

02:28:27.000 in Latin means God's Law.

02:28:29.000 And that's what's so incredible, that they have the symbols of what we think of as Nazism, the hatchets sticking out of the bound sticks, or showing the Federal Imperium ruling over the slaves, and then you look at them setting up fascism here in the United States.

02:28:45.000 Yes.

02:28:46.000 And the people love it.

02:28:47.000 The people have no idea in the world what's going on.

02:28:49.000 They don't read.

02:28:50.000 They don't go to the etymology of words and terms and symbols.

02:28:55.000 And so, the people who are running this world can do stuff right in front of you.

02:29:01.000 You know as well as I do, when we were kids, Alex, and the kids are doing it today, the more we change, the more we stay the same.

02:29:10.000 When we were kids, we could talk on the phone right in front of our parents and talk about stuff that the parents would fall over if they knew that we were talking about, but we were using our own lingo.

02:29:21.000 We were using our own terms.

02:29:24.000 And that's what the globalists do.

02:29:31.000 They have their own language, just like the illegal aliens that the globalists are using to break down our sovereignty. 1.00

02:29:37.000 They love it because on the Spanish radio it's, we're taking over, we're going to kill you, ha ha ha, and then you tell the dumb gringos they can't hear it, they don't know. 1.00

02:29:45.000 That's exactly right. 0.95

02:29:48.000 The elite of this world have their own, look it, you know as well as I do, that if you go to any conference or any seminar given to or by specific disciplines, like you go to a conference of neurosurgeons, they're going to be talking and using terms at that conference that you have no idea in the world what they're talking about.

02:30:10.000 So you might as well stay home because you're not a neurosurgeon.

02:30:14.000 If you go to any kind of a conference with specific Scientists are talking about certain things.

02:30:20.000 If you're not one of them, you don't know what the words mean.

02:30:23.000 Okay, here we go.

02:30:24.000 The main transmission continues right now, Jordan, and then coming up in about 20 minutes, we're going to have to hang up on you and call you back on my studio line, because we're doing this out of my studio, okay?

02:30:35.000 That's fine.

02:30:36.000 Bye.

02:30:36.000 All right, here we go.

02:30:36.000 They came and took it all away.

02:30:45.000 The lanes and the meadows.

02:30:51.000 The places where you used to play.

02:30:57.000 It was an inside job by the well-connected people.

02:31:04.000 We're going to continue into the next hour.

02:31:06.000 Special Overdrive.

02:31:07.000 Then when the retransmission continues, I'll get into Barry Jennings, Deputy Head of Emergency Management, New York, talking about explosions in the buildings, dead bodies in Building 7 before either tower collapsed, destroying the 9-11 Commission Report.

02:31:20.000 huge video up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.

02:31:25.000 The Supreme Court is set to rule that there is no Second Amendment today.

02:31:35.000 Well But in lawyer speak, they're going to say it's a victory for the Second Amendment.

02:31:41.000 They're not allowed to totally ban guns in D.C.

02:31:44.000 Now they have to go back and pass a new law that just basically restricts them to nothing, but it has to be done by law.

02:31:49.000 That's what they're going to do.

02:31:51.000 They've already said they're going to do it, and you're going to watch them do it, and that way it neutralizes people.

02:31:55.000 It's all about deception, all about word games.

02:31:58.000 They play so many.

02:31:59.000 They've trained whole cadres of people, compartmentalized to carry out the lies, but they don't see the larger part of how they're destroying themselves.

02:32:06.000 We'll be back with Jordan Maxwell in just one moment.

02:32:09.000 Be sure to visit his website, JordanMaxwell.com, and let's just go 30 more minutes into the next hour.

02:32:14.000 He says he's feeling good and can do it, and we're going to be taking your phone calls coming up in the next hour, but not yet.

02:32:20.000 We'll get that number out at the end of the main radio broadcast.

02:32:23.000 It'll be internet only for the last 30 minutes with Jordan Maxwell.

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02:34:35.000 Okay, going back to Jordan Maxwell.

02:34:39.000 He was talking about the Teutonic Zionist. 0.69

02:34:43.000 And again, separately from Jordan Maxwell, because I've been a big reader.

02:34:48.000 I can confirm what he's saying because I happen to read Heinz Hobel, Order of the Deathshead, Scheer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, two of Hitler's books, Mein Kampf and then the New World Order.

02:35:00.000 I happen to know that they believed in Teutonic Knights.

02:35:03.000 This predates the Templars.

02:35:05.000 Mainstream history teaches you the Templars became the Teutonics. 0.73

02:35:09.000 Really, they were the tree from which the Templars rose, and when that tree was cut down and ran to northern England or to Scotland, the real heart of it grew back up.

02:35:19.000 Am I correct in saying that, Jordan?

02:35:21.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

02:35:22.000 I think you're right, because the Teutonic thing goes way back into ancient history, way back.

02:35:29.000 Yes.

02:35:30.000 So, yeah, that's a whole study in itself.

02:35:32.000 That's why I said, put the two together, the Teutonic Zionism, which is Semitic Zionism, it's Teutonic Zionism, and Hanseatic League.

02:35:44.000 And again, the word is H-A-N-S-E-A-T-I-C.

02:35:50.000 Hanseatic League and Teutonic Zionism will begin to open up a can of worms that you're not going to believe. 0.99

02:35:57.000 Well, tell us about the Hanseatic League.

02:35:59.000 Well, it's a league of German bankers and thinkers, philosophers, but especially bankers and commercial enterprises in Germany under the Second Reich, which was under Kaiser Wilhelm, and even way before that, before the German nation came to be a nation.

02:36:19.000 So it's a whole confederation of bankers, thinkers, philosophers who were basically...

02:36:26.000 They created a modern education system.

02:36:29.000 They created the PhD.

02:36:31.000 That's it.

02:36:32.000 They engineered the whole society.

02:36:33.000 They created NASA.

02:36:35.000 They created our CIA.

02:36:36.000 They merged with the British-German aristocracy. 0.97

02:36:40.000 And again, I'm not absolving the modern, corrupt, murderous Zionists. 1.00

02:36:44.000 The point is, I have found that they are actually their plaything. 0.95

02:36:48.000 And that they have intermarried in with the Rothschilds, and every time I knock down that final door, this is a Germanic death cult that believes they are the true Zionists. 0.98

02:36:59.000 That's it.

02:36:59.000 That's the name of the tune, and you said it all.

02:37:01.000 That's it.

02:37:02.000 So let's move on.

02:37:03.000 But I mean, all I try to do though is report what I really find in history.

02:37:08.000 I know.

02:37:08.000 And I mean, look at who owns the big pharma companies, look at who owns the military.

02:37:12.000 And then it's got to be a debate about the Catholics, or it's got to be a debate about the... But then the Catholic system, you know, is trying to set up the new Rome, and it's hooked in with the Teutonics, is it not?

02:37:22.000 Oh, of course it is.

02:37:23.000 Of course it is.

02:37:24.000 But then I say it's only part of it.

02:37:27.000 I mean, I'm saying Zionists, Catholics, all of it.

02:37:29.000 The Protestants? 0.95

02:37:30.000 But see, no, they want to keep us compartmentalized, divided, and conquered, don't they?

02:37:35.000 You're right.

02:37:36.000 That's why I was saying earlier, when you go on my website, there are three books that are showing.

02:37:36.000 You're right.

02:37:43.000 I have other e-books that, once you hit one of the books that are showing, it will take you to the whole e-book section.

02:37:49.000 But the one in the middle is called Symbols, Sex, and the Stars, which I was so taken by when I first found this book in an old bookstore.

02:37:59.000 I was just absolutely mesmerized by it.

02:38:01.000 How much information is in there so well easily to read and explain about where things come from in the world theology?

02:38:12.000 Where it developed?

02:38:14.000 What the words meant?

02:38:15.000 The etymology of the words and where the concepts and ideas have come from.

02:38:21.000 It's called Symbols, Sects, and the Stars.

02:38:23.000 I own the copyright on that.

02:38:26.000 I gave it to my friend So he could publish it.

02:38:28.000 And then the second one, which was so extraordinarily important, I asked and got the copyright to own it also.

02:38:38.000 I not only loved the books, I wanted to own them, so I could put them out all over the world.

02:38:44.000 It's called Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.

02:38:48.000 And once you understand how Masonic Astronomy, and is connected to the Stellar Theology of the ancient world, Then all of the words and terms you're hearing in religion and philosophy and astronomy all begin to make sense.

02:39:04.000 And that's why the Olympics this year are going to be on 888 at 888 in the day.

02:39:09.000 That's why NASA did the shoots on certain days at certain times, admittedly occultic.

02:39:17.000 That's why Ronald Reagan only gave speeches in an exact second.

02:39:20.000 On an exact day with a certain color tie, looking a certain direction, and would walk out and hail his arms in an occultic fashion before he did it.

02:39:28.000 That's why Bill Clinton's upset.

02:39:30.000 They really believe this.

02:39:31.000 And they believe, by extension, all the power they have.

02:39:34.000 They believe it's real.

02:39:35.000 And they believe they're communing with entities, don't they?

02:39:38.000 That's exactly right.

02:39:39.000 And the mere fact, I mean, you know, by their fruits you shall know them.

02:39:43.000 The mere fact that they are the power tells you that There very well might be something, in fact, legitimate about it.

02:39:52.000 That there very well might be an occult, hidden, dark force in the universe that we call the occult magical system that we put into movies like Matrix.

02:40:07.000 But there is, in point of fact, a legitimate, de jure, real, magical system operating on the earth.

02:40:15.000 Now, let's be clear, for atheists out there, if you go research your atheistic founders, you will find they're funded by a cultic and theophics, you know, different societies, and that the world leaders who are telling you not to believe anything, they are obsessed with this, aren't they?

02:40:34.000 Absolutely.

02:40:35.000 No doubt about it.

02:40:36.000 And Washington, D.C.

02:40:38.000 is just filled with occult symbolism.

02:40:41.000 Oh, it's everywhere.

02:40:42.000 Everywhere.

02:40:44.000 We go to the Washington Monument, and you know how many people go to the Washington Monument and see the Washington Monument and are so proud to stand there and have a picture taken with the Washington Monument, never realizing that the Washington Monument As a phallic symbol for the phallic worship in Egypt.

02:41:03.000 Or all these Baptist churches.

02:41:05.000 I mean, you'll tell a Baptist preacher that and he'll giggle and laugh and wink at you, because most of them are Masons. 1.00

02:41:10.000 That's right.

02:41:10.000 I mean, they know.

02:41:11.000 It's funny to them.

02:41:13.000 Look, I've had so many people contact me, emails and phone, asking me, well, what about this?

02:41:20.000 And what can you tell me about that?

02:41:22.000 Well, I'm just one man.

02:41:23.000 I can't talk to the whole world one man at a time.

02:41:26.000 But when people call me and ask me, I tell them, look, I've had a website for 15 years.

02:41:34.000 I've had stuff on that one subject you just asked me about.

02:41:37.000 In my research department, did you go to the research boxes on my website?

02:41:43.000 No.

02:41:44.000 Well, did you go to the links on my website?

02:41:47.000 No.

02:41:48.000 Did you see the pictures and the downloadable documents?

02:41:52.000 No.

02:41:54.000 Well, did you get any of the e-books that were there?

02:41:56.000 No, I didn't see any e-books.

02:41:58.000 So I want to take this opportunity to say, anyone who goes on my website, understand there is at least 48 years of knowledge and work that I have put into my website of stuff that you will never be privy to know even exist.

02:42:17.000 So when you go to my website, don't just look at the homepage and a couple of pictures, go all through it.

02:42:22.000 And especially on the audio video page, And the links page, I've got stuff on links pages.

02:42:29.000 I don't put links on my website to take up room.

02:42:33.000 I put them on because they are very important to me.

02:42:36.000 Now Jordan, I want to move quickly here.

02:42:39.000 You also told me privately that you may not be doing radio much longer.

02:42:43.000 Two Sundays from now, you're going to be joining us for the full two hours.

02:42:48.000 And if you really are talking about hanging up your hat here, I want to get you up even sooner back on this show.

02:42:54.000 I mean, you say you're ill, you don't feel well, you're losing the drive, but I hear that drive reigniting once we get you on air.

02:43:01.000 Any ballpark on when you may hang it up?

02:43:04.000 I get excited in my spirit when I'm in the company of someone like yourself, Alex, that appreciates the work and appreciates the time and the effort and all that comes with it, because I have become so despondent and so dejected over all the years of seeing things people are saying about me which are not true, They're saying that I'm an enemy of so-and-so.

02:43:33.000 You shouldn't let them get to you.

02:43:34.000 They're mad.

02:43:35.000 You're getting flat because you're over the target, Jordan, and people are jealous of you.

02:43:39.000 They try to stir up fights.

02:43:42.000 You've done a lot of great work.

02:43:43.000 You're still doing great work, and if they know they're getting to you, They're only going to go 10 times crazier.

02:43:48.000 And look, I got people threatening me and threatening my family, and I know it's happened to you.

02:43:52.000 You got people banging on your doors, saying they're going to kill you and the cops won't help you.

02:43:56.000 I understand all that's happening.

02:43:57.000 That's why we've got you here, to try to get you support, but don't let them get you down.

02:44:02.000 I mean, I know you're 70-something years old and got cancer, so it's easy for me.

02:44:06.000 you know, 30-something years younger to sit here and say this.

02:44:09.000 But that's all we got here.

02:44:10.000 You got rare books, important material.

02:44:12.000 Folks, go buy his stuff at JordanMaxwell.com.

02:44:15.000 Jordan, I've known him for many years, interviewed him many times over the years, never heard him like this.

02:44:19.000 I know he's in a bad spot.

02:44:20.000 That's why we are trying to support him here.

02:44:22.000 But just from me to you, brother, don't let him get you down, man.

02:44:26.000 You have done an incredible job.

02:44:28.000 Well, I'll tell you what really bothers me terrible.

02:44:33.000 I mean I'll just tell you personally what really hurts me is the fact that I haven't even begun to tell the people who want to know.

02:44:42.000 I haven't even begun to scrape the surface of what I really have.

02:44:45.000 I know the frustration.

02:44:46.000 I have the same feeling.

02:44:47.000 There's 50 films I want to make.

02:44:49.000 There's all these complex issues I want to expose, and then I make a film like Endgame that cost me $150,000 to make, and people watched it and appreciated it, but I know it hasn't gotten the attention it needs.

02:45:00.000 This is life-saving information, and people just kind of like, oh, you put it on the web for free?

02:45:06.000 I don't even care to watch it.

02:45:08.000 You know, it's like you pour your guts out.

02:45:09.000 You don't sleep making something.

02:45:11.000 You go through hell to make it, and they don't understand.

02:45:14.000 It's pearls before swine sometimes.

02:45:16.000 Absolutely, and consequently, but the powers that be know that you're putting it out, and they're going to deal with you.

02:45:22.000 You're going to have your family and threats against your life, and threats against your home, and you're dealing, you're fighting something on the front lines, while other people are just viewing your work as entertainment.

02:45:35.000 So many people will listen to me and watch videos which I've never put any... That's right, one of the biggest comic book companies has put out a whole line of comic books called New World Order and they are giving you credit, Jordan.

02:45:47.000 You know, I know that comic book company did because I think they had to, lawfully they had to because it was based on me.

02:45:55.000 But you know, if you go on my website to the To the e-books.

02:46:00.000 Those free e-books are very, very important.

02:46:02.000 That's why I put them on the homepage.

02:46:03.000 And of course, I have another box called Endorsements and Emails.

02:46:07.000 A lot of interesting stuff on there that people have sent me.

02:46:12.000 And I just put it out in the public.

02:46:13.000 So I'll let you see what other people have sent me.

02:46:16.000 Then Downloadable Documents.

02:46:19.000 The Photo Gallery.

02:46:20.000 And of course, just general research boxes.

02:46:22.000 I've got tons of stuff on there, but what really bothers me Is that I would love to be able to do radio and talk to the world and tell the world what I really know.

02:46:34.000 Well, why don't we have you back up?

02:46:36.000 Why don't we have you back up later in the week for like two hours to really... You can say whatever you want here, Jordan.

02:46:42.000 It's a big audience.

02:46:44.000 Millions of people, as you know.

02:46:45.000 But before we go to this final break for the main show and then call you back on my studio line for an internet cast with... Millions will see it in the next few months but tens of thousands listening and watching right now.

02:46:57.000 But I want to talk about two things before this main show ends in about eight minutes.

02:47:02.000 And that is this.

02:47:05.000 A, how does their command and control structure work?

02:47:07.000 I mean, we know it's a philosophy, it's a pyramid, it's different lower levels of compartmentalization.

02:47:12.000 A, but I mean, you know, from a city up to the national level, international.

02:47:17.000 And then B, their master plan.

02:47:19.000 If they're able to get everything they want built and done, which it looks like they're able to do, what will it finally look like?

02:47:25.000 When will they go ahead and wipe out 90% of us, or what's the time frame on that?

02:47:29.000 In fact, let's cover that first, and we're going to skip this break for InfoWars.com listeners.

02:47:34.000 Okay, you want to talk about it now?

02:47:36.000 Yeah, let's talk about their master plan if they win.

02:47:41.000 Well, I think the human race, and this is going to be a painting with a very broad brush, but it's based on many years of looking at the subject from every conceivable angle.

02:47:52.000 And I've traveled all around the world, from Egypt to Europe to quite literally around the world, talking to people.

02:48:00.000 Lecturing on this subject, and I've learned so much from others in other areas of the world.

02:48:05.000 It's very rewarding to travel and hear other foreign people, what they think, and see how things work in their country.

02:48:13.000 And I'm totally convinced that the human race is being mutated according to a scientific method.

02:48:21.000 We know that there have been experiments done as far back as the 1920s and 30s

02:48:28.000 uh... of trying to crossbreed animals with humans the germans were doing that uh... there was movies made back in nineteen thirty eight thirty nine with charles lawton uh... called uh... the island of lost souls nineteen sixty-five burt lancaster remade a call the island of dr moran let me stop you and back up what you're saying in game starts getting into this in game two or whatever i'm gonna call it will fully get into it

02:48:56.000 But all the main eugenicists, Margaret Sanger, H.G.

02:48:59.000 Wells, the princes, Prince Bernhardt, said they're going to make two different species, and then BBC, while I was making the film, showed this little goblin creature that we're going to be, and then they're going to be these beautiful blonde-haired, blue-eyed people, and they hate us so much, they want to make themselves better than us, so they actively want to kill most of us, and then have a clown goblin creature that they call the old humans that they laugh at.

02:49:25.000 That's exactly right.

02:49:26.000 That's what I was getting to.

02:49:27.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:49:28.000 I wanted to back up what you're saying because that is, so all of your research comes to the fact, we know the GMO foods changing our genetics.

02:49:35.000 We know we're genetically getting dumber, not just chemically.

02:49:38.000 Go ahead. 0.98

02:49:39.000 This is massive, folks.

02:49:40.000 That's right.

02:49:41.000 That's what I've been looking at for 48 years.

02:49:43.000 The complete transformation and transmutation of the human spirit into a whole new kind of creature.

02:49:53.000 This gets into a subject which I have been fascinated with all my life, about how to cross-breed animals and humans, and don't think it hasn't happened.

02:50:05.000 Oh, they now admit they've done it!

02:50:06.000 They now admit human-chimpanzee clones, human-cow clones. 0.99

02:50:10.000 Absolutely.

02:50:10.000 Oh my God, yeah.

02:50:12.000 And we know that the Germans were working on this as far back as the 1920s, and of course Ivan G. Pavlov and AR Luria and Pavlov were working with their Pavlonian dogs, understanding how to cause people to think what they want, you know. 0.99

02:50:33.000 That whole Pavlonian dog thing was part of the whole eugenics program to completely redesign the human being so that one day, ultimately one day, the human race will be so profoundly stupid And so awesomely ignorant. 0.99

02:50:51.000 That they will just eat and reproduce and... But that's what George Orwell said in 1984 by removing the language with chemicals. 0.99

02:51:01.000 That's what Brave New World is about.

02:51:03.000 And Huxley said, look, my brother runs UNESCO.

02:51:06.000 This book is real.

02:51:07.000 This is what the eugenicists are doing to you. 0.97

02:51:10.000 And they've already got us almost trapped where they're drinking poison fluoride.

02:51:14.000 They're taking the injections.

02:51:15.000 They're laughing at us while they do it.

02:51:19.000 Oh my God, this is so incredible.

02:51:20.000 Jordan, I'm going to let you go in about three minutes, and we're going to call you back.

02:51:26.000 As soon as we hang up on you, we're going to call you right back.

02:51:28.000 But we're going back to the main show right now.

02:51:30.000 now here we go.

02:51:30.000 I was a highway man.

02:51:42.000 Along the coach roads I did ride.

02:51:45.000 With sword and pistol by my side.

02:51:50.000 In my gut, in my psyche, the full power of my subconscious mind, thousands of times more powerful than my limited cerebral cortex.

02:52:00.000 In my bones, I know they're waging war against the species.

02:52:04.000 And then, lo and behold, I go to their own documents.

02:52:07.000 They vitriolically say they're poisoning us, killing us, euthanizing us right now.

02:52:13.000 With the nutrition we've been getting, we should be living to 130.

02:52:15.000 They are waging war on us, and I, you know, hadn't even got into Jordan Maxwell's own research on this, and I say, what's the master plan?

02:52:23.000 And he says to dumb us down into a new suboid species, and you read the eugenicists, you read the government plans, they are now doing it, inserting us into a matrix.

02:52:33.000 You're being sucked into your iPhones, sucked into your video games, you're already interfacing.

02:52:39.000 I've got to have you up very soon, Jordan, to do a whole show on this and how they admit they're doing it.

02:52:46.000 And I've had elitists tell me, Alex, you warned them, and look, they don't even care.

02:52:50.000 That's the ultimate cop-out.

02:52:51.000 They have done everything for generations to dumb us down and to turn us into this.

02:52:56.000 The National Banking Association, a hundred years ago, put out memos saying, buy up the media, dumb everybody down.

02:53:01.000 They're reading too much.

02:53:02.000 They're chemically attacking all of you.

02:53:05.000 This is their own admissions, and Jordan, we're going to call you back in just a moment on your line because we're going to end the show, the main show.

02:53:13.000 We're going to do 30 more minutes with you, but in closing, I want to thank you for coming on the main show, and I want to ask everybody to visit JordanMaxwell.com.

02:53:21.000 Anything else in closing you want to say to the main audience?

02:53:24.000 Yes, the material that's on my website is there for the moment.

02:53:29.000 So you need to understand, it may not be there tomorrow.

02:53:33.000 So you better get whatever's on there, because I'm always under attack, always.

02:53:38.000 My website is being cut down, shut down.

02:53:41.000 So I'm just saying, go on my website to JordanMaxwell.com and get whatever you can now because who knows what tomorrow is going to bring.

02:53:48.000 Are you for people taking this stuff and creating mirrors of it?

02:53:52.000 Oh, I don't care.

02:53:53.000 I couldn't care less.

02:53:54.000 Okay, well we'll create a mirror and then point at it for you then.

02:53:58.000 And then all my visitors can come check out what you're doing and get your books and videos.

02:54:02.000 Jordan, we're going to call you right back here in just one minute.

02:54:06.000 So take a two minute break and the phone will ring and we'll do 30 more minutes and take calls, okay?

02:54:10.000 I told.

02:54:11.000 Okay, bye bye.

02:54:11.000 Thank you.

02:54:12.000 There goes Jordan Maxwell.

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02:54:51.000 An amazing interview with Jordan Maxwell.

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02:54:56.000 I tried to get him on.

02:54:56.000 He said he wasn't doing interviews anymore, and then he graciously came on.

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02:56:17.000 Alright, John.

02:56:18.000 Thanks a million, brother.

02:56:19.000 Perfect job on the show.

02:56:20.000 I will see you back live tomorrow.

02:56:22.000 Thank you, sir.

02:56:23.000 Good job as usual.

02:56:24.000 Thank you, my friend.

02:56:25.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

02:56:26.000 All right, take care.

02:56:26.000 Okay.

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02:57:29.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're now into overdrive.

02:57:33.000 Haven't done one of these in about a month.

02:57:36.000 Jordan Maxwell, jordanmaxwell.com, was with us for another 30 minutes.

02:57:40.000 And I want to set him up in the near future.

02:57:44.000 In fact, Jordan, do you have your book in front of you?

02:57:47.000 Yes, sir.

02:57:47.000 When would you like to come back on, this is too important to wait, to get more into the Teutonic Nazi Zionist New World Order grid, and talk more about their master plan of turning a minority of us into animal slave suboids, a genetically engineered sub-slave species, Well, I'll tell you what, let me think about that and then we'll talk off the air.

02:58:11.000 of us uh when can you come on later this week for a couple hours and then i want to have you again in two weeks already set up uh for the sunday show a different audience uh well i'll tell you what let me think about that and then we'll talk off the air i'll call you back if not today tomorrow and then we can uh i'll think about it and and we'll we'll discuss that part privately then good fantastic but you're happy to come back on though oh yes all right you're a sweetheart i just want listeners are chomping at the bit and i want to make sure we get that nailed down okay

02:58:33.000 Fantastic.

02:58:33.000 Good.

02:58:33.000 But you're happy to come back on, though?

02:58:35.000 All right.

02:58:35.000 Oh, yes.

02:58:35.000 You're a sweetheart.

02:58:36.000 I just want to listeners are chomping at the bit, and I want to make sure we get that nailed down.

02:58:40.000 Okay.

02:58:41.000 I want to go to phone calls.

02:58:43.000 Let me give the phone number out for everybody.

02:58:46.000 It's 888-201-2244, 888-201-2244.

02:58:54.000 Or if you've got unlimited long distance, 512-646-5400, 512-646-5400.

02:59:01.000 Now, we've talked about the main ruling philosophy, whether it's a Chinese communist commander or a German bank owner or the Rothschilds.

02:59:12.000 They all are adherents and worship this Teutonic-slash-Zionist system, and as you said, nothing to do with the Jews. 1.00

02:59:22.000 And that's evidence, mainstream history, about Hitler was obsessed with Kabbalah and all the rest of it, and now Madonna and everybody else is.

02:59:28.000 That's a part of it.

02:59:29.000 But But I want to spend five minutes before we take calls on their game plan currently and what you think we're going to see in the next few years.

02:59:40.000 And then more on their master plan, how you see them implementing.

02:59:46.000 They're coming out with laws now of if you've got a genetic disorder, you can't have children.

02:59:50.000 They say what an order is.

02:59:52.000 They're going to drug half the kids in the schools.

02:59:54.000 They're admittedly drugging the water.

02:59:56.000 I mean, they're hitting us from every angle, and then any ideas you have of us struggling out of this?

03:00:02.000 Well, I'm at a loss for words, because it's such a huge tsunami of ignorance that's sweeping the world, and an avalanche of attack on the human species by these people at the very top.

03:00:25.000 It's like I was saying before, it's not even political.

03:00:30.000 It's not even philosophical.

03:00:31.000 It's truly demonic.

03:00:34.000 Because they were crossbreeding, as I was saying before, crossbreeding animals and humans as far back as the 20s, and probably earlier than that, the 1800s, that they were talking about such kind of technology that was coming.

03:00:51.000 And when you start looking at how these people are redesigning the human creature so that we will be able to at least have the intelligence to do a particular job that is given to us, but our brains will be blank.

03:01:09.000 We can see that now everywhere in schools.

03:01:13.000 Young people, you talk to them and they're blank. 1.00

03:01:16.000 They just stare past you.

03:01:18.000 They have no idea that their humanity has been taken away from them.

03:01:24.000 Their ability to think... I was in San Diego working for the Truth Seeker Company a few years back, and one night when the Hale-Bob Comet came over, I walked out in the evening, and the comet was out, and there was a bunch of high school kids out in the parking lot next to my car.

03:01:47.000 And I walked up, and they were all standing there looking at the comet.

03:01:50.000 And so I was talking with them, and they said, well, what is that?

03:01:54.000 And I said, it's a comet.

03:01:55.000 And they said to me, and they were very nice kids, and they were very real, they weren't smart aleck, and they asked, what is a comet?

03:02:04.000 And I was shocked that they didn't know.

03:02:06.000 So I talked with them a little bit about comets and astronomy, etc.

03:02:10.000 And one of the boys said to me, he says, Can you answer something that we've all wondered and nobody knows, where does the sun go when it leaves?

03:02:20.000 We see it come up and we see it go down, but where does it go when it leaves here?

03:02:24.000 And the next phase will be a cop laughing at you saying there isn't a comet.

03:02:29.000 Exactly.

03:02:29.000 I mean now they think, have you seen the idiocracy that Mike Judge made?

03:02:35.000 Yes, but God knows there's all kinds of movies out there. 0.79

03:02:38.000 But I mean, in that movie, if you know how to talk, they arrest you as a heretic. 0.89

03:02:44.000 Yeah, I know.

03:02:45.000 I know that.

03:02:46.000 And it's almost like that now.

03:02:48.000 I mean, you say to a cop, you can't stop me at a random checkpoint. 0.99

03:02:51.000 Fourth Amendment, he'll just laugh and go, you're one of them nuts! 0.93

03:02:54.000 I have the state police on video and road to tyranny out of their own squad car. 0.95

03:02:58.000 First we show FEMA training, and then we even have video out of the squad car.

03:03:01.000 And they arrest the woman for a pocket Constitution. 1.00

03:03:03.000 And the state police are going, I believe this Constitution is illegal.

03:03:07.000 And he's going, he starts breathing heavy going, I can't believe she's got one.

03:03:11.000 I can't believe it.

03:03:12.000 I can't believe it.

03:03:14.000 And then another cop comes over and goes, no, wait a minute.

03:03:17.000 Like he's the genius one.

03:03:18.000 I think she might be allowed to have that.

03:03:23.000 No, this is word for word!

03:03:25.000 I mean, I don't take any sardonic pleasure that I'm like a god compared to these people.

03:03:30.000 It freaks me out!

03:03:31.000 I'm nobody!

03:03:32.000 And I'm like a god compared to most!

03:03:34.000 And the elite just love it!

03:03:36.000 I'm totally freaked out!

03:03:37.000 I know, that's what that one comedian said in Hollywood.

03:03:41.000 He said, I feel like a god among insects.

03:03:44.000 Because I think.

03:03:46.000 Yeah, he just died.

03:03:47.000 That was Carlin.

03:03:48.000 Yeah, that's what it was.

03:03:50.000 Here's a great quotation from a book.

03:03:53.000 It's on my website.

03:03:54.000 It's been there for years.

03:03:55.000 It's from the book called The New Totalitarians by Roland Humpert.

03:04:00.000 And in the book, he says this, that Aldous Huxley, and Julian Huxley was his father, Huxley... You're right, I keep calling him a brother, yeah.

03:04:13.000 Yes, that's what it was, brother.

03:04:16.000 And so Julian Huxley said something very interesting, and it was quoted in The New Totalitarian book.

03:04:23.000 The quote is this, as political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase.

03:04:33.000 And the dictator, unless he needs cannon fodder or families with which to colonize empty or conquered territories, will do well to encourage that freedom.

03:04:44.000 In conjunction with the freedom to daydream under the influence of narcotics, The movies, the radio, and it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude which is now their fate.

03:04:58.000 Have you seen the Bertrand Russell quote where he says, a revolt by the slaves by the time we're done with it, I'm paraphrasing, will be as ridiculous as a revolt of sheep, you know, who are being cut up for mutton.

03:05:11.000 Yep, yep.

03:05:12.000 And here's another quote, important.

03:05:15.000 So Alex Frazier-Taylor said, He was born in 1742, died in 1813, said this, quote, The average age of the world's great civilizations has been around 200 years.

03:05:29.000 These nations have progressed through this sequence from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from great courage to liberty, and from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, From complacency to apathy, and from apathy back to dependence, and from dependence back to bondage. 0.97

03:05:56.000 Yeah, let me read you Bertrand Russell, who they claim is a great liberal who said, exterminate the blacks. 0.79

03:06:00.000 Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. 0.96

03:06:08.000 A revolt of the plebes would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton. 0.87

03:06:17.000 Now that's exactly what you've been talking about.

03:06:19.000 Here's another one.

03:06:20.000 Although the science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class.

03:06:26.000 The populace will be allowed to know how it can...

03:06:29.000 Uh, convictions were generated.

03:06:32.000 Uh, when the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.

03:06:42.000 That was out of his book, The Impact of Science and Society, 53.

03:06:46.000 Now, now, let me just say this.

03:06:48.000 I told the story yesterday on the air again and I told it a few months ago because it was shocking to me.

03:06:53.000 About a year ago, Endgame was getting ready to be finished in a few months and my parents came by to pick me up at my office because I was working on a Saturday afternoon and my daughter had a ballet recital and they picked her up.

03:07:07.000 So we're going to the ballet recital.

03:07:08.000 I don't know why I tell that part of the story, but the point is, I guess because I don't want to sound like a little kid, but my parents picking me up.

03:07:12.000 The point is, they pull into the office, my mother comes in, she's real smart, you know, has a degree in history, she's sitting there watching the film where I'm talking about how they plan to exterminate us and we're showing the quotes And she goes, but I know some of them say that, and I've read it, but they really plan that?

03:07:28.000 And we're driving in the car, and my dad goes, let me just tell you a story.

03:07:31.000 He was in the Texas Academy, a young scientist.

03:07:34.000 And when he was in junior high school, he was already at UT, an advanced research deal.

03:07:40.000 They took 125 of the smartest kids in the state, and he was sixth selected of that.

03:07:44.000 And the head of the botany department was running it named Speer.

03:07:48.000 He was a German immigrate.

03:07:49.000 And he took them into this room, and he said, listen, you're going to work for the government.

03:07:52.000 It's a new world order. 0.98

03:07:53.000 It's eugenics, and we're going to exterminate everybody. 1.00

03:07:56.000 After we're done, because this will happen many years from now, probably when you're older. 0.98

03:08:01.000 But, you know, you are the elite.

03:08:02.000 Now, look, they weren't just going after my dad and five others in Texas.

03:08:05.000 They got tens of thousands.

03:08:07.000 And he said no.

03:08:09.000 But the point is, this isn't just in books for me.

03:08:12.000 They tried to recruit my dad because, you know, he was salutatorian.

03:08:18.000 I mean, this is insane.

03:08:20.000 Yeah, I know.

03:08:21.000 But I've heard the same thing from FBA.

03:08:24.000 FBI men that I've known, and CIA people I know, and all kinds of interesting people around the world that I've been fortunate enough to meet and to be in their private company.

03:08:37.000 I've sat in Egypt and listened to scholars there talking about what they know about what's going on in the Middle East.

03:08:44.000 And this kind of information has been out there from day one, but most people are not Well, here's my point.

03:08:50.000 know anything about it and just as well because they're not interested to know until it comes home to them well here's my point they for two years off and on coming into the university a couple times a month found the 125 smartest kids and not just normal tests but all sorts of things i mean my dad later you know found out that it was like almost it was a program for astronaut screening and other government programs They had this everywhere.

03:09:17.000 But then what they really selected them out for at the end was, okay, you're the sixth best after a two-year program.

03:09:23.000 They would give them the supplies, and my dad would go home and build a laser, and stuff like that, and see if they could do it.

03:09:31.000 And at the end of it, it's okay, you've been chosen, you're going to be a minion of the ruling elite, and you're going to help carry out the extermination.

03:09:39.000 I mean, that's my... Folks, it didn't just happen to my dad's my whole point.

03:09:44.000 Yeah.

03:09:45.000 And then I guess his name was on some list, because then later they tried to recruit him and other top dentists for some secret, you know, cybernetic bone implant thing for soldiers in the 80s.

03:09:54.000 I got a buddy who they recruited, who's only a few years older than me, he's a Hollywood producer, and he got recruited and then Microsoft came to him and said, we're hiring you because we have your file on that advanced thing you did in Houston, which is really a NASA program for advanced children, and we've got your file and we want to just pay you a couple million a year just to find out the contents of your brain.

03:10:19.000 I mean, that's what they're doing, folks!

03:10:21.000 Well, I know, I know.

03:10:23.000 Look, we talked about how I got started.

03:10:27.000 There's another thing I wanted to talk about, how I got started in this.

03:10:32.000 1967, I was researching the subject of communism in Glendale, California, at the library.

03:10:40.000 And I had been talking about, as I said, about all this subject of the conspiracies in government, etc.

03:10:46.000 Since the early 60s, but in 67, I happened to be in Glendale, California, going through the encyclopedias.

03:10:53.000 I was looking up some information on Soviet communism, and in the World Book Encyclopedia under Soviet Russia, I turned to that page, and there was a picture of the Soviet flag The red flag with the hammer and sickle, and then beneath it was the Soviet coat of arms.

03:11:21.000 And beneath each one of those pictures gave a little sentence or two explaining the symbolism.

03:11:27.000 And when I read the symbolism on the Soviet national coat of arms, it was a shock to me, because since early 60s, I had been researching secret societies and had continually come across A particular catchphrase that virtually everybody was using.

03:11:47.000 The British were using it. 0.93

03:11:48.000 The Americans used it.

03:11:50.000 The communists were using it.

03:11:51.000 The Nazis used it all the time. 0.95

03:11:54.000 The fascists used it.

03:11:55.000 Italy.

03:11:56.000 The ancient Romans used it.

03:11:58.000 The ancient Greeks used it.

03:12:00.000 It was a catchphrase that everybody was using.

03:12:06.000 And I kind of had it in the back of my mind.

03:12:08.000 Well, there it is again.

03:12:09.000 And here it is over here.

03:12:10.000 And there it is over there.

03:12:12.000 Until such time as I was looking at an encyclopedia under Soviet and read the little piece under the Soviet National Coat of Arms and it absolutely... I was absolutely floored because for the first time I finally got it.

03:12:32.000 I finally got what that symbol really meant and it changed my life in one day because I knew Instinctively.

03:12:41.000 It was all the same team against us.

03:12:44.000 Well, let me finish.

03:12:46.000 I instinctively knew that I had found something of awesome importance.

03:12:52.000 Tell us.

03:12:53.000 But I didn't understand what it was I found.

03:12:56.000 I just knew that whatever it is I've got here is going to be explosive one day.

03:13:02.000 I don't know what it is.

03:13:04.000 But it's really important.

03:13:06.000 What's the catchphrase?

03:13:07.000 And the catchphrase was the dawn of a new day.

03:13:10.000 Yes.

03:13:11.000 And the symbol of the sun coming up over the earth in a mountain.

03:13:15.000 And that's what California's got.

03:13:16.000 Everybody.

03:13:18.000 Everybody.

03:13:19.000 Everybody uses it.

03:13:20.000 It's used by the Russians, the Nazis, And once you see how it was used by the ancient Roman Empire, for the Caesars used it, and the ancient Greeks used it... In fact, their top standards wasn't even eagles, it was that rising sun.

03:13:34.000 That's exactly right.

03:13:35.000 The Japanese... Absolutely. 0.98

03:13:37.000 So what does it mean from all of your... We know it's sun worship, but what is that new one, rising?

03:13:41.000 That means that there is a rising on the earth of a very powerful, intellectual, secret order of light and intelligence That is superior to the human race.

03:13:56.000 It's superior to humans.

03:13:58.000 It is a rising of a light in the world which is a other world.

03:14:07.000 The word I'm looking for is occult.

03:14:09.000 There is a powerful secret society operating in the world.

03:14:13.000 And Albert Sykes said that that was Lucifer.

03:14:16.000 Well, Lucifer is simply the planet Venus, which is the bringer of the light.

03:14:24.000 Why do they call Jesus the Morning Star in the Bible and Lucifer the Morning Star?

03:14:28.000 That's right.

03:14:29.000 Jesus is referred to as Lucifer in the Bible, and that's part of what I'm talking about.

03:14:37.000 That's part of what I'm trying to explain in a very few words.

03:14:42.000 There was a war between the two kinds of light, white light and black light.

03:14:48.000 Black light is used in dance halls and entertainment venues where they use black light.

03:14:57.000 Black light only shows up certain things, and a white light is different.

03:15:02.000 So there's a war between two kinds of light, which means there's a war between two kinds of intelligence.

03:15:10.000 And so that symbol which I'd stumbled on, which was the symbol of the Soviet Union, opened up for me a can of worms that I instilled to this very day over 40 years ago and 67, and today I am still working on it, and one day I would like to be able to have the finances to put together a three or a four hour documentary on the most incredible, dark secret of the human race. 0.92

03:15:39.000 How This symbol has been used by the most ancient secret societies in preparation and preparing to transform the human race.

03:15:50.000 And it's just so much to explain, I can't even, you know, it's hard to find words to explain The significance of what it is that I found.

03:16:03.000 You're saying an off-world intelligence through human managers that they've made deals with is in the process of basically destroying humanity?

03:16:13.000 That's exactly right.

03:16:15.000 And they've been promised immortality and power and godhood if they will treacherously enslave their own species and that's why generationally it continues.

03:16:25.000 That's why it's more advanced than our greatest intellectuals.

03:16:28.000 That's why it's so incredibly subtle that even our greatest minds have trouble like John the Revelator on Patmos reveling at the beast couldn't even believe what he was seeing.

03:16:40.000 It's so huge that our greatest minds can't even hardly grasp it.

03:16:45.000 That's exactly right!

03:16:48.000 And let me give you one quick quote from a reference book on secret societies.

03:16:54.000 I want to just give you this quote, because it's very germane to what I'm talking about.

03:17:00.000 This is a quote from a lady who was a member of the Golden Dawn Society, and she was very old when she left the Golden Dawn, and she was interviewed in France.

03:17:11.000 And she said this, she said, I have been convinced that we, as an order, and at that point, the Golden Dawn, I have been convinced that we, as an order, have come under the power of some very evil occult order, profoundly versed in science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being black magic, that is to say, electromagnetic power, hypnotism, and powerful suggestion.

03:17:40.000 We are convinced that the Order is being controlled by some kind of a Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that Order itself." I'm telling you, when I was reading this, I thought, my God, this is something awesome that I have stumbled upon.

03:18:01.000 I just can't get to the end of it.

03:18:04.000 I've just got hundreds... Are the true initiates of the true Order less than 100?

03:18:10.000 I would think so.

03:18:10.000 Very, very, very small select few who can really wrap their brains around what this whole thing is all about.

03:18:20.000 It's the transmutation of the human race, preparing the human family on the Earth for a new age, a new dawn of a whole new kind of Earth. 0.55

03:18:32.000 Hellish!

03:18:33.000 And I'm telling you, I've been looking at this for over 40 years.

03:18:35.000 I would love to be able to do something with it.

03:18:38.000 But the problem I have faced, Alex, is that I don't have anything.

03:18:42.000 I just live in two rooms with my sick brother who have nothing because I've spent my whole life... Well, Jordan, this is important enough that I can probably work with you or try to get some folks to help you.

03:18:53.000 I would love to work with you on this and really Do something with this subject that nobody's ever heard of.

03:19:00.000 Well, I understand that you want to do a masterwork with it, but I think something like the basic slide projection, but lay it all out, because time is of the essence, and just get something.

03:19:11.000 Put video over what you're saying as well, but like a slide projection with video, you know, put over it, and you go into a few sites.

03:19:11.000 I mean, make it good.

03:19:19.000 And because of your illness, we need to do this, because time is of the essence, and I'm really glad that...

03:19:24.000 Listen, I know, and I've got to take my children to a dental appointment.

03:19:27.000 We have like 15 phone calls posted here.

03:19:30.000 We've got Jennifer, and Ryan, and Matt, and Ben, and Graham, and Greg, and Scott, and Joe, and Dave, and Elroy, and Matt, and David.

03:19:38.000 I'm going to try to give each caller 30-45 seconds a quick answer from Jordan that I'm going to run out of here.

03:19:44.000 We'll probably end up keeping you another 15 minutes.

03:19:47.000 Let's move quickly now.

03:19:47.000 Okay, great.

03:19:49.000 Folks, I just want to tell you this.

03:19:50.000 I have been, with all my knowledge, the conscious mind can't really fully analyze it all.

03:19:55.000 I have been truly sitting in like a chair for two hours straight, trying to get to the basics of what it all is, and I have to tell you, and I'm not getting, I don't cover UFOs, I don't cover all that because there's so much disinfo and so much weirdness, but studying the elite, how they behave, how they even look upset, it's like they know they're under orders.

03:20:14.000 I keep coming back with, it is an outside intelligence, call it spiritual, whatever you want, inter-dimensional, that is controlling these people.

03:20:22.000 What they're doing is so horrible. 0.99

03:20:25.000 And I mean, what politician would come out and say, we rape children and rip their genitals off of pliers and put it in White House documents? 0.99

03:20:32.000 They're doing something to us. 0.99

03:20:34.000 They're getting us ready for greater horrors.

03:20:37.000 It's some type of, I mean, God knows what it is, folks, but I can just tell you, just in my spirit, I intellectually track all this, and then in my spirit I try to go, okay, what is it behind that final door?

03:20:50.000 And it is hell itself being released on the earth.

03:20:53.000 I'm telling you, and I've been looking at this, like I said, for so many years, but it was back in 1967 that I made a profound discovery, and I've been working on it for over 40 years, And I really feel that I want to do something with this work that nobody has ever heard, no one's ever seen it, has no idea it exists.

03:21:15.000 It is extraordinarily important, but I'm just too tired and sick to do anything.

03:21:22.000 Good.

03:21:22.000 How are you?

03:21:23.000 And good to talk to you again, Jordan.

03:21:24.000 Hey, listen guys, I'll tell you what, this whole interview was just fireworks for me.

03:21:27.000 is just getting it done.

03:21:28.000 Action is victory.

03:21:30.000 Resistance is victory.

03:21:31.000 Let's move quickly.

03:21:32.000 I think you know Matt Kazee has come out and interviewed you a few times.

03:21:34.000 I've interviewed him.

03:21:35.000 He's a great guy.

03:21:36.000 Let's go to Matt Kazee first real fast.

03:21:38.000 Hey, Matt, how are you doing?

03:21:39.000 I'm doing good, Alex.

03:21:40.000 How are you?

03:21:42.000 Good.

03:21:42.000 And good to talk to you again, Jordan.

03:21:43.000 Hey, listen, guys.

03:21:44.000 I'll tell you what.

03:21:45.000 It was something.

03:21:46.000 This whole interview was just fireworks for me.

03:21:48.000 Absolutely riveting and amazing.

03:21:51.000 I did want to let you all know I'm doing a documentary with Jordan on his last work, and that will My quick question is, it's all this talk about this coming new agenda, and it's part of the new man theory, and my question is this.

03:22:08.000 You know, even in 1927 film Metropolis, the machine man, is technology going to change?

03:22:14.000 Is it possible that technology... Yeah, they're talking about us interfacing with it, and that's why they say, what's going to happen in 2001?

03:22:21.000 Something wonderful.

03:22:22.000 Yeah.

03:22:22.000 But it's not wonderful.

03:22:24.000 It's hellish.

03:22:25.000 Okay, let me ask, could it be that technology could backfire against them, or are we just going to be slaves to the machine?

03:22:31.000 Well, I think that has to do with... It's a choice.

03:22:34.000 ...what we're talking about.

03:22:35.000 God, I think that What we're up against is something unworldly.

03:22:40.000 It's not of our world.

03:22:42.000 And Christians should understand and relate to that.

03:22:45.000 Jews, especially Orthodox, should understand.

03:22:48.000 We're talking about something that's out there.

03:22:52.000 Ask any six-year-old where God is, and they'll point straight up into the heavens.

03:22:56.000 Well, God's out there.

03:22:57.000 Well, whatever is out there is far superior to us And the Angels, Sons of God, my God, that's a subject that I could talk about.

03:23:06.000 Yeah, we know there's a lot, the problem is there's, you can feel it in your gut, every culture says it, there's two forces out there.

03:23:12.000 You got it.

03:23:12.000 That's the, and the dark force is definitely on this globe.

03:23:17.000 Yeah, well what do you think Star Wars and, you know, Indiana Jones and Star Wars especially is talking about?

03:23:24.000 George Lucas, I mean I had lunch with George Lucas.

03:23:28.000 I know what these symbols mean.

03:23:30.000 I know what Hollywood is doing, what they're telling you.

03:23:32.000 And George Lucas is a brilliant guy, and he's trying to explain to the world.

03:23:38.000 Oh, his new film has the Emperor staging terror attacks to get a police state, and then you find out in the end he's behind Bin Laden. 0.87

03:23:48.000 I know, but it's just a story that is so awesome in scope.

03:23:54.000 Hey Matt, when's this video going to be up?

03:23:56.000 We're still in production.

03:23:58.000 We're going to take our time and do it right, Alex, so I'll definitely keep you posted.

03:24:01.000 I'm going to drop so other callers can get in.

03:24:03.000 Thanks again, Alex, for having me.

03:24:05.000 Well, Matt, fire out your website.

03:24:07.000 It's truthmovement.com, and we're getting ready to launch 33rdparallel.tv again.

03:24:14.000 That's interesting, Jordan.

03:24:15.000 Tell us about the George Lucas launch.

03:24:17.000 Well, I was invited by Disney to a special party.

03:24:23.000 Out at Disneyland, where I met Michael Eisner and Lucas and Danny DeVito and God knows all kinds of movie stars.

03:24:31.000 Because they're into this and they want to meet with somebody on the outside who knows what they know.

03:24:35.000 Well, I was invited and I had a nice conversation.

03:24:38.000 George Lucas actually said to me, we were all standing and eating, it was kind of like a big circus kind of atmosphere, and he said, I introduced myself.

03:24:52.000 He asked me my name, and I told him, and he said, Jordan Maxwell.

03:24:55.000 He said, you know what?

03:24:58.000 I know that name.

03:24:59.000 He said, you're in a book, a red cover book, isn't it?

03:25:02.000 Something about the Church doesn't want you to know?

03:25:04.000 And I said, yes.

03:25:05.000 And I said, it's an honor that you would know about me.

03:25:09.000 He said, well, the only reason I know about you, Jordan, is because my wife is a voracious reader.

03:25:14.000 She reads everything.

03:25:15.000 I don't read.

03:25:16.000 I hire people.

03:25:18.000 To do the research for the movies, etc.

03:25:22.000 And he said, but she made me read your part.

03:25:25.000 That's why I remember your name.

03:25:27.000 So he said, give me your business card.

03:25:30.000 And then Michael Eisner, president of Disney, said, well, what are you talking about?

03:25:34.000 And then we got in a conversation about Hollywood, magic, the occult world, etc.

03:25:41.000 What did he say?

03:25:43.000 I'm not going to talk about that any further on the air, but we'll talk about that in private.

03:25:47.000 But it was interesting, because I asked them, I said, you know, the very concept of the Hollywood comes from the old Druidic priest in the ancient... Who made it out of the Hollywood?

03:25:58.000 Yeah, because their magic wands, the magical priests used magic wands and they were always made out of the wood of a holly tree, made out of Hollywood.

03:26:08.000 And so we had a very long-term, interesting conversation going there for a bit.

03:26:13.000 Oh, I bet.

03:26:14.000 Let's go ahead and Hollywood knows all about all of it, folks.

03:26:18.000 You can bet it.

03:26:19.000 You better believe it.

03:26:20.000 I've been out there, probably not as much as Jordan as he lives out there.

03:26:23.000 Let's talk to Ryan in California.

03:26:25.000 You're on the air, Ryan.

03:26:26.000 Hi, thanks so much for taking my call, Alex.

03:26:30.000 It's wonderful to be able to talk to you, Jordan, and that's absolutely wonderful information you've been getting out.

03:26:35.000 Real quickly, I had two things.

03:26:36.000 First of all, I just wanted to let anyone who has cancer know about an amazing man named Rick Simpson who's got a website out there up in Canada.

03:26:46.000 I would urge Jordan and everyone else who has health problems to go there.

03:26:49.000 It's called phoenixtearsmovie.com.

03:26:53.000 Email me.

03:26:55.000 Go on my website to jordanmaxwell.com and at the buttons at the top, it says contact.

03:27:01.000 Go to contact and scroll down.

03:27:03.000 First two are not mine, but the third one, scroll down and email me that information so I'll have it right in front of me.

03:27:09.000 Okay, we've got to move quick, sir.

03:27:11.000 The only second thing I had real quick was, as far as the rising sun, I've seen a lot of drawings, especially in Roman Catholic Church, paintings and such, of mushrooms and such like that, and I heard you talk about that in your film, Basic Sled Show.

03:27:24.000 I'm wondering if you could give me any more information.

03:27:26.000 Well, that's what I want to do.

03:27:27.000 Maybe Alex and I will do something together on this.

03:27:29.000 Wonderful.

03:27:31.000 That's something out there that's going to blow people away.

03:27:33.000 Yeah, because I've read Apples of Apollo and I've studied your work and it's fascinating and just, you know, keep up the good work.

03:27:39.000 There's a big story there yet.

03:27:40.000 A big story to come.

03:27:42.000 Okay, thank you, Ryan.

03:27:43.000 Thank you.

03:27:43.000 Sorry we're having to hurry here.

03:27:45.000 Jennifer in California, you're on the air.

03:27:48.000 Hi, thanks for taking my call.

03:27:49.000 Sorry about my phone.

03:27:51.000 I just wanted to thank you guys for everything that you've done for all of us out here and I wanted to Let's talk about the interesting Obama poster with his rising.

03:28:02.000 Quite.

03:28:02.000 And that never gets pointed out.

03:28:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:28:05.000 You noticed that, didn't you?

03:28:07.000 Oh, I can't not notice it.

03:28:08.000 It's the first thing that pops out at me.

03:28:10.000 That's right.

03:28:11.000 Look, he's got the eugenicist Warren Buffett, who's given $47 billion of his money to carry out eugenics ops on black people. 0.95

03:28:18.000 But hey, he's for a black guy, so everything's okay. 0.98

03:28:21.000 That's right.

03:28:22.000 It's amazing to me.

03:28:24.000 The race lines are still so prevalent and it's such nonsense. 1.00

03:28:28.000 But that symbol is very, very important.

03:28:31.000 And, uh, and it's telling you something, and all the presidents have used it, but especially, uh, what's the other guy, uh, McCain, a Republican, what's his name?

03:28:41.000 McCain.

03:28:42.000 McCain came out and said, uh, McCain blew me away.

03:28:48.000 I was almost, I almost had to fall backwards when I heard McCain in one of his lectures using Illuminati terms, which are in-house terms that nobody knows.

03:29:00.000 Unless you're inside to know what those words meant.

03:29:03.000 And he used those terms and words in his speeches.

03:29:06.000 Well, what about when Bush Sr.

03:29:07.000 is talking about thousand points of life and a new dawn?

03:29:12.000 I mean, that is total occultic.

03:29:14.000 And people say we're such conspiracy theorists to believe the stuff that's coming right out of their mouths, you know?

03:29:21.000 And when we show it to them, they just Well, there are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

03:29:27.000 But there are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

03:29:31.000 Right.

03:29:32.000 And I'd like to say to everybody who has children, you know, it's our responsibility as parents to prepare our kids for this and to teach them that this is going on.

03:29:41.000 And if we give them the education and if we show our own kids what's going on, then this information will be passed on.

03:29:48.000 Well, here's what happened.

03:29:49.000 We know they've been poisoning the food.

03:29:51.000 We know they've been poisoning the water.

03:29:52.000 We know they've been poisoning the vaccines.

03:29:54.000 Now that people are filtering water, trying to get away from it, now they're putting it in the air.

03:29:58.000 I mean, they admit it.

03:30:00.000 I mean, they are coming after us.

03:30:03.000 I mean, they're saying, the elite says in hundreds of documents, and I appreciate your call, Jennifer, that we have to, they say there's going to be a middle class that will have elite genetics, this is their view, I'm not saying it's true, they will threaten us, they will get in the way of what we're doing, it's like bad sons, we've got to cut them down. 0.99

03:30:20.000 And, you know, I don't want to be cut down, I don't want my kids dying early of cancer, you bastards need to stop. 0.99

03:30:27.000 I agree. 1.00

03:30:27.000 Alright, let's take another call here. 1.00

03:30:28.000 Let's talk to Graham in Seattle, then Ben and others.

03:30:32.000 Graham, go ahead.

03:30:33.000 Hi, it's an honor to speak with you.

03:30:36.000 I've never heard Jordan speak.

03:30:38.000 Thanks for having him on today.

03:30:41.000 I was just going to mention real quick, David Eich, that's how you pronounce his name, you know, a lot of the stuff he talks about is right on, but he starts talking about the whole, like, reptilian thing, and then you were talking about Uh, crossbreeding humans with other types of species, and I was thinking maybe, you know, I know some people who claim to have seen these things.

03:31:02.000 Well, by the way, John, well listen, here's the problem.

03:31:05.000 Hold on a minute, hold on.

03:31:06.000 This is where I get irritated.

03:31:09.000 Okay.

03:31:10.000 In 2003, the Washington Post reported what I had seen in government documents.

03:31:14.000 This is public stuff, sir.

03:31:16.000 Okay, that they have human chimpanzee crosses, and they've got them in Argentina, they've got them in Costa Rica, and they've got them in South Korea, okay?

03:31:25.000 They have, now this is finally all over the BBC, they've got part human, part bovine, part cow. 0.65

03:31:25.000 Right. 0.65

03:31:33.000 They grow humanoids up inside cows' uteruses. 0.99

03:31:37.000 They're part cow, so the cow uterus won't reject them. 1.00

03:31:39.000 They harvest the organs out of the babies.

03:31:42.000 I read that in university public stuff ten years ago and I'd get laughed at.

03:31:47.000 Like I read the Telecommunications Act that said the NSA was taking over all the phone companies.

03:31:52.000 And then now it's in the news.

03:31:53.000 So you're saying you've heard, and I'm not mad at you, I mean you care, you're calling in, you've heard people seeing these things.

03:32:00.000 Why do we always talk about what some lady told somebody or what somebody heard?

03:32:05.000 They have been doing this since the twenties.

03:32:07.000 It's now admitted.

03:32:09.000 Jordan?

03:32:10.000 Yeah, I mean, it's there in the magazines and all of their rough reference works published by the U.S.

03:32:17.000 publishing companies that publish the documents out of Washington.

03:32:21.000 They're telling you in your face.

03:32:24.000 But most people don't read anyway, because, and I understand why most people are not interested in this kind of thing, because it really doesn't, in the final analysis, this kind of information Well, I know, but that's the human race.

03:32:37.000 No, it's okay.

03:32:37.000 Well, exactly.

03:32:38.000 They think they're so self-centered that they think they're saving themselves by not caring when they're letting the evil win, and they're destroying themselves by being selfish little pig people. 0.98

03:32:48.000 Well, I know, but that's the human race. 0.99

03:32:50.000 Graham, I'm sorry for interrupting.

03:32:51.000 You make a point.

03:32:52.000 No, it's okay.

03:32:53.000 I wasn't trying to imply at all that it wasn't realistic to cross-free humans with us. 0.95

03:33:00.000 No, I know, but we wanted you to, for people listening, laughing at us, we wanted those schmucks to know, we're warning them, listen, I had a guy eight years ago at a Conan's Pizza poke me in the arm and get in my face and call me a liar about spider goats. 0.95

03:33:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:33:15.000 It's all over the news.

03:33:16.000 I had the head of the company on.

03:33:17.000 They got labs all over Texas and New York.

03:33:20.000 Part spider, part goat. 0.99

03:33:21.000 And the bastard told me I'm a liar and he told me he had a degree in biology. 1.00

03:33:25.000 He's in denial. 1.00

03:33:26.000 Sorry, go ahead.

03:33:27.000 You're right.

03:33:28.000 I know.

03:33:29.000 I just wanted to talk specifically, I mean, kind of when David Ickes started talking about reptilians and stuff, I sort of kind of turned it off because it didn't seem like he was talking about them being from the underworld or something, and it seemed really out there, and I felt like it might have been some disinformation that they were trying to mix in with truth.

03:33:47.000 But see, I go off what we can prove.

03:33:49.000 Jordan goes off what you can prove.

03:33:51.000 I'm not knocking, David.

03:33:52.000 I'm not here to get into that.

03:33:53.000 The point is, he'll say some lady turned into a reptoid in front of me.

03:33:57.000 Well, why not just go to the fact that they admit they're creating reptoid humans?

03:34:01.000 That's right.

03:34:02.000 Well, why not just actually... I'll tell you that.

03:34:04.000 Yeah, I mean... That's a whole subject in itself that I'd like to get into in relation to the Bible, because there's a lot of stuff in the Bible talking about that exact Genesis sounds like genetic engineering.

03:34:17.000 It's describing it.

03:34:20.000 But thank you for the call.

03:34:21.000 Yeah, thank you for the call.

03:34:22.000 Really great points, Graham.

03:34:24.000 It just frustrates me because we're eating cross-species every day. 0.81

03:34:28.000 I know that.

03:34:30.000 You know, the public doesn't.

03:34:31.000 I just keep telling them.

03:34:32.000 Ben in New York, you're on the air.

03:34:35.000 Hi, Alex.

03:34:36.000 I'm a huge fan, long-term fan, a subscriber to presentplanet.com.

03:34:40.000 I had one comment to make really quick, and then I'll ask a question to both of you guys really quick.

03:34:44.000 Uh, the comment, first of all, was I've been reading, uh, Tex Marz's book, Circle of Intrigue, recently, and it talks about how there's in a circle, you know, ten members, possibly, of that, and that there could be an eleventh eventually.

03:34:56.000 If Jordan has any comments about that group, I'll ask him.

03:34:59.000 Yeah, I've had people, high-level military, high-level government, and others high-level government, tell me that there is a ruling council and that there is an empty chair at the end of it and they believe an entity is in it.

03:35:11.000 Jordan, have you gotten that information?

03:35:13.000 That's exactly what I've heard.

03:35:14.000 Same thing.

03:35:14.000 That they believe that there is another entity in the room and they leave an open chair for it.

03:35:21.000 Yeah, I've heard that many times from people.

03:35:23.000 A lot of things I've heard that we can't talk about on the air, but a lot of strange stuff going on in the world.

03:35:30.000 At least we know the elite believes it.

03:35:32.000 Bottom line, they believe it.

03:35:33.000 One thing really quick.

03:35:37.000 I noticed, incidentally, that the Golden Dawn members include Alissa Crowley, Bram Stoker.

03:35:44.000 Yeah, there's millions of fake low-level groups.

03:35:48.000 That's right. 0.62

03:35:48.000 Okay, and there's all these wannabes and a bunch of arrogant people, egomaniacs who think they're getting all this power. 0.62

03:35:55.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

03:35:56.000 Yeah, but that very term, golden dawn. 0.68

03:36:01.000 See, the rising sun.

03:36:03.000 That's right.

03:36:04.000 It's all part of a very, as I said, a very legitimate, du jour, real magical system in operation that has been in operation for thousands of years, and the people, generally speaking today, have no idea in the world what these symbols actually mean and where they've come from.

03:36:25.000 Well, we're going to have to get you back up.

03:36:26.000 I know you're up in two weeks, but we can't wait on this.

03:36:28.000 It's too important to cover.

03:36:30.000 Anything else, Ben?

03:36:31.000 Well, one last thing I was going to ask regarding this circle of intrigue, the issues around that, is, Jordan, do you think there's actually a connection with this inner circle to the British royals?

03:36:42.000 Oh, God.

03:36:43.000 Right at the top, man.

03:36:45.000 That's like asking if the Pope is Catholic.

03:36:47.000 That's the head of the Germanic Zionist cult. 0.99

03:36:51.000 That's right.

03:36:51.000 It's a Teutonic cult.

03:36:54.000 And they're promoting something called Zionism, which has zero nothing to do with being Jewish. 0.96

03:36:58.000 Well, they also want to carry out their New World Order in the name of the Jews, because they want to kill the Jews, because they want to put themselves in that place. 0.91

03:37:07.000 And so, I've said so many times, Christians use the word Christ, but have no idea in the world what the word Christ means.

03:37:14.000 Therefore, if you don't know what Christ means, then you're never going to understand what an anti-Christ would be.

03:37:20.000 An anti- does not mean to be against.

03:37:22.000 An anti-Christ does not mean against Christ.

03:37:26.000 It means to be in the place of Christ.

03:37:31.000 A substitute in the place of Christ, because in the ancient Greek language, anti- Was a word which means to be in the place of, not against.

03:37:40.000 Counterfeit.

03:37:41.000 Exactly, a counterfeit.

03:37:43.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and talk, and that's what the globalist are masters of. 0.78

03:37:46.000 And they have the whole public hypnotized.

03:37:48.000 More and more I realize, they've done studies, people are many times more suggestible and easily hypnotized now by street hypnotists than they were.

03:37:55.000 And it's because they're in an admitted lower brainwave.

03:37:59.000 You can prove this.

03:37:59.000 They're in a sleeping brainwave.

03:38:01.000 You're right.

03:38:02.000 They sleep.

03:38:04.000 That's what they say in They Live with John Carpenter.

03:38:06.000 You know, we sleep, they live.

03:38:08.000 You're right.

03:38:09.000 They're really alive.

03:38:10.000 They're seeing things.

03:38:11.000 They're living.

03:38:12.000 We're alive.

03:38:13.000 That's why they hate us that fight them, because we're actually alive, too.

03:38:16.000 I know.

03:38:17.000 And we're trying to unlock the slaves so we can save ourselves.

03:38:20.000 Hurry, un-key yourself!

03:38:22.000 God, they're destroying us!

03:38:23.000 And they're just drooling like, ugghhh!

03:38:26.000 Go and watch that movie with Rod...

03:38:31.000 Hi, gents.

03:38:31.000 Rowdy Piper.

03:38:31.000 Roger Taylor.

03:38:32.000 Time Machine, the old original Time Machine.

03:38:35.000 Get the movie and watch it.

03:38:36.000 The Morlocks and the Eloy. 0.72

03:38:37.000 That's it.

03:38:38.000 By some sick twist of fate, they were the masters, we were the slaves.

03:38:41.000 Yep.

03:38:42.000 Let's go ahead.

03:38:43.000 Greg in New Jersey, you're on there.

03:38:44.000 I've got to move really fast now.

03:38:45.000 Go ahead.

03:38:46.000 Hi, gents.

03:38:47.000 I really appreciate the show letting me on.

03:38:49.000 If I, and this is for the guest, If I had one of his books or one document that he could share with me that I could help convince my friends and family that I'm not crazy, what would that be?

03:39:02.000 I think if you go on my website to the homepage, the book called Occult Theocracy.

03:39:12.000 Occult Theocracy is just a reference book on all of the secret societies around the world, where they come from, It's just a reference book so people can see for the first time.

03:39:23.000 JordanMaxwell.com.

03:39:24.000 We got to move fast.

03:39:25.000 Put a couple in and I've got to go.

03:39:27.000 Let me just say this in relation to them laughing at you.

03:39:35.000 That is their insecurity.

03:39:36.000 That's their pre-programming.

03:39:38.000 And it's pearls before swine.

03:39:39.000 If somebody really is arguing and debating and getting mad, talk to them.

03:39:45.000 But move on.

03:39:46.000 A lot of times family doesn't respect family.

03:39:48.000 If they want to giggle at you, move on, man.

03:39:51.000 You're trying to give them something special. 0.99

03:39:54.000 Let me tell you, as soon as you got that attitude, hey Mac, that's fine, be an ignoramus. 0.95

03:39:58.000 But when you're like, I know this sounds crazy, but I mean, that's what I found. 0.96

03:40:01.000 I found that when you grovel to them, they just laugh at you.

03:40:04.000 But if you just tell them, hey, I'm warning you about something serious, they may listen.

03:40:08.000 Jordan?

03:40:08.000 Well, I know.

03:40:09.000 You're right.

03:40:10.000 I wanted your take on that.

03:40:11.000 Okay, but let's go ahead and talk to Scott in Florida.

03:40:13.000 Fast, Scott, go ahead.

03:40:14.000 How you doing, gentlemen?

03:40:16.000 Thanks for getting me on here.

03:40:17.000 I'm honored to be able to talk to you, Mr. Maxwell.

03:40:19.000 Thank you.

03:40:22.000 I started studying this New World Order stuff for about a year.

03:40:24.000 I've opened Pandora's box.

03:40:26.000 There's one question I've been trying to get an answer to.

03:40:28.000 You mentioned Eustace Mullins earlier and he's referenced throughout various books and topics on the subject.

03:40:35.000 And you also mentioned John Birch Society.

03:40:38.000 I've heard you mention that as one of your inspirations.

03:40:40.000 I came across something where you, Mullins, actually said that the John Birch Society was funded and started by Nelson Rockefeller.

03:40:49.000 Let me just stop you for a minute, sir.

03:40:51.000 This is the type of small-mindedness, and I'm not saying you're small-minded and I appreciate your call, but in the interest of time, you can call me back tomorrow and we can talk more about it.

03:40:58.000 I was saying I was a limited person who was to the limited kind of like a John Birch type view, not that I was even John Birch.

03:41:08.000 And then Jordan Maxwell was saying he was sending them material trying to get them to see a bigger picture.

03:41:15.000 And then we don't even totally agree with Eustace Mullins.

03:41:17.000 We were saying he was a pioneer on banking with Ezra Pound.

03:41:22.000 So, see, we were having a separate, nuanced discussion, and then it degenerates into who's good, who's not.

03:41:30.000 Obviously, the government was going to try to infiltrate something like the John Birch Society.

03:41:33.000 I had McManus say here a few years ago that they probably kicked infiltrators out, so I'm not here to certify or uncertify.

03:41:40.000 This is about your journey of awakening, not in the peanut gallery, who's good and who's not.

03:41:46.000 We're not here certifying produce.

03:41:48.000 Jordan Maxwell.

03:41:49.000 No, you're right, and what I was doing back in the 60s, sending articles to them, I was just interested and I was reading some of their material and I thought this was very interesting stuff and I've got some collaborating evidence, so I just write a little article and send it to them.

03:42:05.000 And I found their fruits to be good, so I say they're good.

03:42:08.000 I think there's a problem with it.

03:42:09.000 Yeah, I mean, I think they're limited, you know, it's kind of junior high level.

03:42:13.000 Yeah, but the problem is that that was a long time ago and a lot of things have happened since then.

03:42:19.000 But I just felt that they were doing great work and I wanted to contribute what research I was doing back in 1661.

03:42:27.000 My whole point is that half our movement spends half its time just debating who's good and who's not and who's this and who's that.

03:42:36.000 Folks, we're under biological and chemical attack.

03:42:40.000 Whatever group it is, we better start waking the cattle up fast.

03:42:43.000 I'm moving ultra-fast now.

03:42:45.000 Joe and Philly.

03:42:47.000 Hey Alex, how are you?

03:42:49.000 Hey, I've been a Prison Planet TV member.

03:42:53.000 Thank you.

03:42:54.000 Jordan, I listen to you all the time.

03:42:56.000 I lived in Washington, D.C.

03:42:59.000 for 25 years.

03:43:01.000 I was in banking for 23 years.

03:43:03.000 I was a regulator for 8 years.

03:43:05.000 Trust me, I know what you're saying is the truth, and I would love to speak to you offline.

03:43:11.000 Well, you've got my phone number.

03:43:12.000 Just go on my website.

03:43:14.000 And I can't say what I need to say in the audience.

03:43:20.000 No, I mean it was eyes wide shut, occultism, that's what you saw, wasn't it, sir?

03:43:25.000 Well, we know what goes on, brother.

03:43:26.000 Let me tell you this.

03:43:27.000 These people don't stop.

03:43:27.000 There is no backing down.

03:43:28.000 These people don't back down.

03:43:29.000 You know what goes on, brother?

03:43:31.000 - Let me tell you this.

03:43:33.000 These people don't stop.

03:43:35.000 - Well, I know that.

03:43:36.000 - There is no backing down.

03:43:38.000 These people don't back down. - I understand that.

03:43:42.000 So what?

03:43:45.000 I understand.

03:43:46.000 - Yeah, we don't either.

03:43:48.000 - So, Alex, I need to speak to you offline and you, Jordan, offline.

03:43:53.000 - Okay, well, like I said, you've got my phone number on my website.

03:43:56.000 Call me when you wish. - I do go to your website.

03:43:59.000 Secret admirer of you for about a year.

03:44:01.000 Well, listen, it's right there.

03:44:03.000 Sir, sir, in the interest of time, call me back tomorrow.

03:44:06.000 My contact info's here.

03:44:07.000 Send me an email.

03:44:08.000 I mean, the point is, is that I know Hollywood people, banking people, they're all, you know, basically either don't like the New World Order and know it's a cult, or they're a cult and start telling you how great Lucifer is.

03:44:18.000 I mean, believe me, that's what I mean.

03:44:20.000 The public has no idea, and you're saying, listen, I know, I've been around the elite.

03:44:24.000 I know, that's what's crazy.

03:44:25.000 We're trying to warn these people.

03:44:27.000 Thank you so much, Joe.

03:44:28.000 Listen, I've got to let Jordan Maxwell go.

03:44:30.000 I can't take any more of his time.

03:44:31.000 I'm sorry to Elroy, Matt, Ed, and Kevin.

03:44:35.000 You know what?

03:44:35.000 I'm going to leave it up to Jordan.

03:44:36.000 Well, I'm putting him in the hot seat.

03:44:37.000 Jordan, do you want to do four more minutes?

03:44:39.000 Yeah, let's do it.

03:44:40.000 All right, let's do it.

03:44:41.000 Four more.

03:44:42.000 Dave in Colorado, fast.

03:44:44.000 Hi, Alex.

03:44:45.000 We talked on June the 13th, and I'm so happy to be able to talk to Jordan for just one second.

03:44:51.000 I just want to ask, what's the best resource material on the bohemian grove?

03:44:55.000 In your work or anybody else's in terms of the occult history, where they get their rituals, whatever you've got, what's the deal?

03:45:02.000 Well, alright, Alex has all the best stuff on Bohemian Grove.

03:45:06.000 All I would add is that you need to understand what the word grove, go on my website to the research boxes and it's Under a religious research box.

03:45:19.000 But a grove is a larger conclave of warlocks and witches, and the groves is where they did the sacrifices and the rituals, correct sir?

03:45:27.000 Right.

03:45:27.000 But what you need to do is go on my website and go to the research boxes, and especially the ones dealing with religion, and scroll down until you hit the one on grove, and read some of that material on what a grove represented.

03:45:42.000 In the occult world, it doesn't mean what you think it does.

03:45:46.000 Most people think groves are where there are lots of trees.

03:45:49.000 No, that's not exactly the way they're using it.

03:45:54.000 Yes, there is a grove of trees where they are operating.

03:45:57.000 But it's an outdoor cathedral.

03:45:59.000 That's right.

03:46:00.000 It means something even deeper yet.

03:46:03.000 So it's not just A bunch of trees that create a grove.

03:46:07.000 And by the way, at the grove, they call it Moloch, but say it's an owl.

03:46:11.000 I know fully well that Moloch was a bull.

03:46:14.000 That's exactly right.

03:46:14.000 But in the occult, they interchange things.

03:46:16.000 Can you explain that to people?

03:46:18.000 Yeah, well because the owl represents the wisdom of seeing things in the dark.

03:46:24.000 Owls are known to be warriors because they can see things in the dark.

03:46:27.000 But as a female, it manifests as an owl, and then they also manifest as a bull.

03:46:33.000 During the ceremony, they are addressing it as male and female.

03:46:36.000 Well, I know, because there is a whole occult... I know you know!

03:46:40.000 I'm just trying to let the listeners keep going.

03:46:43.000 It's not an owl, Alex.

03:46:45.000 It's not Moloch.

03:46:46.000 And I'm going, they're calling it Moloch.

03:46:49.000 It's unbelievable.

03:46:50.000 I know.

03:46:51.000 Okay, let's take one real fast.

03:46:53.000 Let's go to Elroy in Minnesota, fast.

03:46:56.000 Yeah, hi Jordan, real quick.

03:46:58.000 Are you familiar with the Kensington Runestone that was discovered in Minnesota in 1898?

03:47:04.000 It has recently been discovered that it was actually carved by Teutonic Knights, and there's a secret code in it.

03:47:10.000 Yep, yep.

03:47:10.000 As a matter of fact, I've got some material on that I've been looking at rather recently.

03:47:18.000 It's too big of a subject to go into in the last few moments.

03:47:24.000 A great book on it that was written by Scott Walter, he's the foremost authority on it.

03:47:28.000 Yeah, what it was is that Vikings weren't just the Vikings we think of in modern times.

03:47:33.000 They were trading with the Chinese, they were trading with the Arabs, they were trading with, and this is in the mainline history books, just no one knows it, they were all over the New World and they dug up their graves everywhere and found hundreds of their swords, and so they're saying they're going to recreate that Atlantean Teutonic Empire, correct?

03:47:50.000 That's right.

03:47:52.000 And actually, it's a Lance claimed document is what they think it is.

03:47:55.000 Well, go on my website.

03:47:56.000 Yeah, they're saying this is ours.

03:47:58.000 Yeah.

03:48:00.000 And then it was maps that Columbus, who was a Mason, got.

03:48:05.000 So the reason they say he discovered is he reclaimed.

03:48:07.000 Correct, Jordan?

03:48:08.000 Yeah, he reclaimed.

03:48:09.000 Absolutely.

03:48:10.000 Yeah.

03:48:11.000 Okay, we got to take one more and then that's it.

03:48:14.000 We'll take Matt and Kevin.

03:48:15.000 Matt in Florida, hit me.

03:48:17.000 Hey, Alex.

03:48:18.000 Hey, Jordan.

03:48:19.000 How you doing?

03:48:22.000 Oh, okay.

03:48:23.000 That's very good.

03:48:25.000 Listen, there's something on your website.

03:48:27.000 It's by Thorkelson.

03:48:28.000 It was the account of his speech in Congress in 1940, and he talks about two different groups.

03:48:34.000 He talks about an Anglo-American influence, and he talks about an internationalist influence.

03:48:40.000 But it's the same people.

03:48:42.000 He puts it in a context that there's actually a fight going on between those groups and i wonder if you could put that in context today and say who's one who's kind of pulled ahead and where are we and i don't know if you can do that i think that's a lie for their lower level members and they allow jousting between their subgroups but there really is no split at the top i think that's exactly right it's like a fight promoters in hollywood they promote the fight but what they're doing is promoting both fighters

03:49:10.000 And it's actually the guys sitting around the ring with the cigars that are making the money.

03:49:14.000 So they're promoting the fight.

03:49:16.000 He quickly got his book called the National American Establishment.

03:49:21.000 Why did he write that?

03:49:23.000 Well, no, he admits, if you really read in there, and I gotta let you go, if you read in there, he really admits, he says, we worked through communists, we worked through fascists, and you're saying, he's saying there's two different groups.

03:49:34.000 They will say it both ways.

03:49:37.000 Of course.

03:49:38.000 The bankers don't care who's on first.

03:49:40.000 It doesn't matter who's on first.

03:49:43.000 They control the money, period.

03:49:45.000 They control the flow of ideas and everyone's... One last call.

03:49:50.000 Kevin in Oregon.

03:49:51.000 Kevin, go ahead, you'll take us out.

03:49:52.000 Hey guys, great to talk to you both.

03:49:55.000 You're both heroes and patriots to us all.

03:49:58.000 I just wanted to ask Jordan, what do you think of The Planet X stuff, going back to the Sumerian text.

03:50:06.000 I actually helped finance, what's his name, Sitchin, Zachariah Sitchin, and I sent him around the world to six different countries and I sat and talked with him for hours on end.

03:50:20.000 It's a very interesting subject.

03:50:22.000 Here's the deal, we know planetary bodies come through, but modern people claim it's coming in six months and then discredit all the work.

03:50:30.000 Right, and that's what I would say.

03:50:32.000 I don't think there's much to the whole thing.

03:50:35.000 It's just one more subject out there that we could sit and talk about for days.

03:50:39.000 I don't see it as that important.

03:50:42.000 I don't even see the 2012 thing, but the Mayan calendar is very important.

03:50:49.000 It's a calendar date, and nothing more than that.

03:50:54.000 I don't see any of that being very important.

03:50:56.000 What it says, whether you put stock in it or not, is that it means a new age begins, not that the world ends.

03:51:03.000 Like I said, it's a calendar event.

03:51:06.000 It's just going from December of one year to the January of the next year, and so there's a change going on.

03:51:14.000 And I think that's exactly what the powers that be behind the scenes know that.

03:51:20.000 And they have to make everything a lie, like the new millennium was 2001, but they love the fact that everybody celebrated a new year in the wrong year.

03:51:27.000 2000, and didn't realize it's not a new millennium yet.

03:51:31.000 Well, and they believe in lesser magic.

03:51:34.000 They get power out of deceiving masses.

03:51:36.000 You're right.

03:51:37.000 They make money at the same time.

03:51:40.000 Well, Jordan Maxwell, thank you for two hours and fifty minutes.

03:51:44.000 I'll call you in a couple days.

03:51:45.000 I want to get you up before two weeks from now.

03:51:47.000 And I do want to try to work with you on some things.

03:51:52.000 You're just a real treasure.

03:51:53.000 JordanMaxwell.com.

03:51:55.000 Everybody get out there and support him.

03:51:56.000 Great materials there.

03:51:57.000 Take care, my friend.

03:51:59.000 Thank you again.

03:51:59.000 You bet.

03:52:00.000 There goes Jordan Maxwell.

03:52:01.000 I've got to go pick my children up and take them to a dental appointment.

03:52:03.000 I am out of here, ladies and gentlemen.

03:52:05.000 I want to thank all of you for tuning in.

03:52:07.000 Truth Rising comes out in just a few days.

03:52:13.000 You can pre-order Truth Rising now at Infowarners.com.

03:52:17.000 It will ship out July 4th.

03:52:18.000 It will be released on the web at PrisonPlanet.tv on July 4th.

03:52:24.000 So again, I'm Alex Jones signing off.

03:52:26.000 God bless you all.

03:52:27.000 I want to thank you all for the great work you did.

03:52:29.000 Incredible interviews with Mark Dice and Jason Bermas about huge 9-11 developments start right now.

03:52:35.000 The stream will cut in to the repeat of the show.

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