Alex Jones Show - 20080723_Wed_Alex

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00:00:10.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:20.000 I would have loved to have given the listeners a heads up.

00:00:24.000 It is the 23rd day of July 2008.

00:00:27.000 I would have loved to have given people a chance to tell their friends, family, neighbors to tune in.

00:00:35.000 But I said last Friday I was going to call Willie Nelson over the weekend.

00:00:40.000 And try to get him on as a guest this week to speak out against an attack on Iran and of course to support Congressman Dennis Kucinich and his co-sponsors who this Friday are going to be before the House Judiciary Committee bringing forward evidence of the crimes of George W. Bush.

00:00:59.000 Well, I didn't call him this weekend.

00:01:01.000 I didn't call him this week.

00:01:03.000 Time just flies by.

00:01:04.000 I called him this morning, and he said, well, today's a good time to do it.

00:01:07.000 In fact, the earlier the better.

00:01:08.000 Let's go!

00:01:09.000 So, we're scheduled to have Willie Nelson on in about five minutes, starting in the second segment of the radio show today.

00:01:18.000 In fact, I meant to have He has 35 articles of impeachment in front of me.

00:01:23.000 Will somebody Google that?

00:01:25.000 So I have that when I don't even have time to prepare for this, because I literally called Nelson about 45 minutes ago.

00:01:30.000 I was in the middle of getting ready for the normal show, trying to set him up Thursday, Friday, or next week, and he said, well, today's better.

00:01:37.000 So Willie Nelson will be on with us from the tour bus coming up in about five minutes.

00:01:46.000 Ron Paul narrowly escaped death.

00:01:49.000 Remember with Payne Stewart in 2000, the famous golfer, the aircraft, the Learjet depressurized, all aboard were killed.

00:01:58.000 It's a high mortality rate when this happens.

00:02:01.000 This happened with the congressman and seven other congressmen out of Texas when they took off from Houston and then had to do an emergency landing.

00:02:11.000 Ron Paul was scheduled to be on tomorrow.

00:02:15.000 I wonder if this little snafu will get in the way of that, to be talking about the Iran war, what's happening with the economy, and a lot more.

00:02:22.000 But Congressman Ron Paul is scheduled tomorrow.

00:02:24.000 We're also lining up Dennis Kucinich tomorrow or Friday.

00:02:27.000 So a very, very busy week.

00:02:30.000 We don't like to announce these big guests until we pretty much introduce them onto the show for you to ensure that that happens, but a lot of important information as we continue to track things here for you.

00:02:40.000 Trey, my producer, has landed another gigantic guest for two weeks from now, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

00:02:47.000 We'll just see if that happens.

00:02:48.000 The person is set up for two weeks from now, roughly.

00:02:51.000 I'm not going to get into it, just a heads up on that.

00:02:55.000 It's pretty big.

00:02:56.000 Okay.

00:02:58.000 Flight carrying Ron Paul, others in to Congress makes emergency landing.

00:03:03.000 KHOU News.

00:03:05.000 Houston, a Continental Airlines flight carrying seven members of Congress from Houston to Washington was forced to make an emergency landing after it lost cabin pressure.

00:03:14.000 Yesterday afternoon, Flight 458 was bound for Reagan National Airport.

00:03:19.000 It was diverted and landed safely in New Orleans, a spokesman for Representative Ted Poe told 11 News.

00:03:25.000 Poe and fellow congressmen Nick Lapson, Ron Paul, John Carter, Ciro Rodriguez, Solomon Ortiz, and Henry Culliar were aboard the flight, said Poe's press secretary.

00:03:38.000 Ironically, the seven congressmen were trying to get back in time for a Tuesday night vote on an aviation safety bill.

00:03:45.000 A spokesman for one of the representatives said there were 118 people total aboard the plane.

00:03:51.000 Spokesman Julia King said.

00:03:52.000 Alright, I'm going to take you out with a little 10-minute report that's up on Infowars.com of Dennis Kucinich eloquently asking you for support for his impeachment move, which definitely puts his life in danger.

00:04:04.000 Let's go ahead and go out to break with Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

00:04:08.000 I want to thank you for the support which you have given to my efforts to hold this administration accountable for taking us into a war based on lies and for the destruction of the rule of law and the destruction of cherished constitutional principles.

00:04:27.000 Because of your support, this Friday in Washington, D.C., I will make a presentation before the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives, at which time I will make the case that this President has violated his oath of office, violated United States law and international law, has separated

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00:07:59.000 Music So much going on, so much going on.

00:08:18.000 Music So many things going on in the world.

00:08:26.000 Babies dying, mothers crying.

00:08:32.000 How much all this one human life worth.

00:08:37.000 What happened to peace on earth?

00:08:43.000 We believe everything that they tell us. 0.98

00:08:47.000 They're gonna kill us. 1.00

00:08:49.000 We better kill them first. 1.00

00:08:53.000 But I remember a commandment. 1.00

00:08:56.000 Thou shall not kill.

00:08:58.000 How much is that soldier's life worth?

00:09:01.000 And what happened to peace on Earth?

00:09:09.000 And the people of Earth still believe that.

00:09:15.000 And that's the whole point.

00:09:31.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

00:09:33.000 The White House, Pat Robertson, even a lot of Democrats are saying Iran is going to get a nuclear weapon that they've sworn to attack Iran.

00:09:40.000 It is a complete and total lie.

00:09:43.000 The White House has told Israel, go ahead and attack, and that if Iran fights back in any way, that nuclear weapons may be used against them.

00:09:54.000 Every major oil company and different brokerage house predicts that gas prices will at least double, probably triple.

00:10:01.000 That will assuredly send us into a depression.

00:10:04.000 But Pat Robertson and others, I have a clip of them, say that doesn't matter, we have to go ahead and attack Iran.

00:10:10.000 There is a gentleman named Dennis Kucinich, congressman, who's been on with us the last few weeks and will be coming on later this week, who Friday will boldly be before the House Judiciary Committee bringing forward evidence of crimes and lies by the Bush administration.

00:10:29.000 to try to get the committee to vote to bring impeachment to the full house, to the floor.

00:10:34.000 Then if the House votes for it, that is an indictment.

00:10:37.000 The House acts as the grand jury, then it goes to the Senate as a trial.

00:10:42.000 The crimes of the Bush administration dwarf probably by 10,000 times, and I mean that literally, the crimes of Richard Milhouse Nixon.

00:10:55.000 We must bring impeachment charges, because if we don't, they are going to have the political capital to fail forward and start World War III.

00:11:06.000 Joining us is Willie Nelson for the rest of the hour.

00:11:10.000 Later in the hour we'll be taking your phone calls specifically on impeachment and on the Iran situation.

00:11:17.000 The inside scoop from Congressman Ron Paul, people inside the CIA and others, is an attack in October, September or October, probably in September, as an October surprise for the election.

00:11:28.000 And I'm just very honored to have Willie Nelson joining us from Council Bluff, Iowa, where he's going to be playing tonight.

00:11:35.000 Mr. Nelson, thank you for joining us.

00:11:38.000 Oh, my pleasure, Alex.

00:11:39.000 It's good to be on your show.

00:11:40.000 I hope you're doing good.

00:11:42.000 Man, it's the best of times, the worst of times.

00:11:44.000 Life's great.

00:11:44.000 It's beautiful in Austin, Texas.

00:11:46.000 We've got great people like Willie Nelson out there to listen to.

00:11:50.000 But meanwhile, there is the establishment trying to ruin the wonderful time we're having.

00:11:56.000 How are you doing, Willie?

00:11:58.000 I'm doing fine.

00:11:59.000 We're in Council Bluff, as you said.

00:12:01.000 This is our third attempt to play Council Bluff in the last two years.

00:12:05.000 We tried it a few weeks ago and a tornado hit the stage and hit the bus.

00:12:12.000 So we decided we would go away for a few days and wait until the weather calmed down.

00:12:16.000 So we're back again.

00:12:18.000 So, like you say, maybe a third time's a charm this time.

00:12:21.000 Absolutely.

00:12:24.000 I called you this morning.

00:12:25.000 I wanted to get you on to get your take on impeachment.

00:12:27.000 You said, let's do it right now.

00:12:28.000 So here we are.

00:12:31.000 It really seems like we're even begging the question, why do we have to get up here and point out all the crimes?

00:12:37.000 They're so evident.

00:12:39.000 But I just look at the courage of Dennis Kucinich, definitely putting his life in Well, first of all, Dennis Kucinich is a great friend of mine and I've supported him ever since I've known him.

00:12:53.000 impeachment and find out if you're supporting him, and if so, why?

00:12:57.000 Well, first of all, Dennis Kucinich is a great friend of mine, and I've supported him ever since I've known him.

00:13:06.000 I've always admired the way that he stood up for the little guy and told it like it is, and to hell with the consequences. .

00:13:18.000 You've got to admire a man that has that kind of nerve.

00:13:21.000 I wrote the song you just played a while ago, Whatever Happened to Peace on Earth.

00:13:28.000 I wrote that for Dennis Kucinich's campaign.

00:13:32.000 It pretty much tells where we are today.

00:13:34.000 Just how much is a human life worth?

00:13:37.000 How much all is a human life worth?

00:13:39.000 These days, there has to be a price tag on it or else we wouldn't be going around the world killing people overall.

00:13:45.000 I love the way Dennis is handling the impeachment thing.

00:13:51.000 I think he's got, what, 54 impeachment charges against George and there's probably another 54 laying around out there if he wants to go get them.

00:14:03.000 Absolutely.

00:14:04.000 He first introduced 35.

00:14:05.000 Instead of Congress didn't act, he would add more, and he has.

00:14:09.000 He did pressure them, the Democratic Congress that was supposedly elected to punish Bush's crimes and end the war, now becoming very transparent that they're in the same military-industrial complex, hip pocket of those special interests.

00:14:23.000 But he was able to get the Judiciary Committee to hear his charges coming up this Friday, and I just wanted to put the call out For everybody to call the House Judiciary Committee and to call all of your members of Congress and tell them, look, it's admitted that the wiretapping of U.S.

00:14:42.000 citizens without warrants each counts a felony.

00:14:45.000 It's admitted that lying about WMDs in Iraq, and it's come out, we have the White House documents that they knew they were lying, those are felonies.

00:14:54.000 Willie, give us your sense on all these crimes that have been committed by the White House and why you're supporting impeachment.

00:15:02.000 Well, I... Are you still there?

00:15:05.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:05.000 You there?

00:15:06.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:07.000 Okay, uh... Uh, what... The main thing that bothers me, I think, is the fact that, uh, anyone in this country can get by with murder, uh, if they happen to be the President of the United States, have, uh, all of the government behind them.

00:15:23.000 And I don't think that's right.

00:15:24.000 I think if, uh, you know, if I get caught on the street smoking a joint, I'm going to jail.

00:15:28.000 You know, so, uh, they don't have...

00:15:30.000 Well, it certainly is.

00:15:31.000 They just pick me up and throw me in there.

00:15:33.000 How can a guy get away with all the things that he's gotten away with without even a slap on the wrist?

00:15:39.000 I mean, Bill Clinton, we impeached that guy just for a little bit of indiscretion.

00:15:47.000 So this is a lot more serious than that.

00:15:50.000 Well, it certainly is.

00:15:52.000 Of all the articles of impeachment, which ones do you think are most important?

00:16:00.000 Well, I probably couldn't name the articles of impeachment by name, but I do know that it was wrong for him to go to war.

00:16:07.000 I do know that a lot of our guys and gals have lost their lives and lives have been ruined forever because of the law that he broke.

00:16:16.000 And for that alone, he should have to pay for it in some way.

00:16:24.000 Impeachment seems like a minor way.

00:16:27.000 You know, the guy's going to be out of office in a while, and I'm sure there's a lot of people who are going to follow him around and try to charge him with all kinds of things, even after he leaves office.

00:16:35.000 But the point that you brought out, the fact that we're so close to a war with Iran, and that anything this guy does between now and Election Day could spark it, I think an impeachment hearing between now and then might slow the guy down.

00:16:52.000 It might get the attention of the world and us on Trying to stop a guy who's really intent on starting a war.

00:16:59.000 Well, you're right.

00:17:00.000 And it also shows the world that we're serious about getting our name back.

00:17:04.000 I mean, we've always been known, not as being perfect, but as the good guys.

00:17:09.000 And now we are... We don't have to do that.

00:17:11.000 We might, you know... In fact, I think we should set ourselves up as the world's peacemakers, not the world's war mongers.

00:17:20.000 There is a place in the world for a peacemaker.

00:17:23.000 We all know that.

00:17:24.000 Absolutely, so I think it's important for the world to see that the American people are at least attempting to see that justice is done.

00:17:32.000 Absolutely.

00:17:33.000 Now you were right, that is the second article of impeachment is falsely, systematically, and with criminal intent, conflating the attacks of September 11th with A mispresentation of Iraq as a security threat, as part of a fraudulent justification for the war of aggression.

00:17:52.000 And we now have the memos, the White House memos and others, where they knew Iraq had nothing to do with it.

00:17:58.000 Of course, they knew that from day one, being the authors of the attacks, the 9-11 attacks.

00:18:01.000 But that they were going to go out and sell the public on this, and now, conservatively, there's a million dead Iraqis because of this.

00:18:08.000 I mean, this is Nazi-level, World War II-level crimes.

00:18:15.000 No, this is very, very serious.

00:18:18.000 There's a lot of people dying today because of that huge law that he broke.

00:18:24.000 And no, I don't think he should get by with it.

00:18:26.000 I don't think any of those guys in there.

00:18:28.000 And he's not the only one.

00:18:30.000 He's just the puppet on the string.

00:18:32.000 There's a lot of people telling him what to do, and they're using small words and big letters so he can get it said.

00:18:39.000 But there's people behind him telling him what to do.

00:18:43.000 Would you like to see the New World Order puppeteers controlling the marionette to be brought to justice as well, Willie?

00:18:51.000 You just can't bring in the puppet.

00:18:51.000 I think they have to.

00:18:53.000 You've got to bring in the guys pulling the strings.

00:18:55.000 And that's going to be harder to do because it looks like the closer we get to impeachment, all of the guys out there pulling the strings are ready to throw George under the bus and let him ride all the heat.

00:19:07.000 But I don't think that's That's enough.

00:19:10.000 I think we have to go further than that and dig deeper and go back and find out who all is involved here and make them all come to step up to the bar and tell us why they did what they did.

00:19:22.000 You know, that's a great point.

00:19:23.000 I'm going to skip this break for the folks watching on PrisonPlanet.tv and for the radio folks out there, and then we're going to go to break at the bottom of the hour and come back and take some phone calls.

00:19:36.000 I really cannot overstate how much courage that Congressman Dennis Kucinich has, and we all need to be praying for him and supporting him and demanding, not just that Congress support impeachment, but that the media pay attention to what's happening.

00:19:57.000 Willie, I mean, that's another big area here.

00:20:00.000 Our press wasn't perfect back in the 70s, back in 73, 74, but at least they did cover the investigation and the movement towards impeachment with Richard Nixon.

00:20:09.000 I think that's the missing link here, is that the media, you're seeing almost no coverage of what Congressman Kucinich and all of his co-sponsors are doing.

00:20:20.000 Well, yeah, that's another problem that we have, is getting the message across, because the media people seem to be happy just telling the other side.

00:20:31.000 They'll get in trouble themselves.

00:20:35.000 They'll lose their jobs if they start talking like you and I are doing.

00:20:39.000 But if they signed up to be a news person, I think they should go on up and do what they're supposed to do.

00:20:46.000 Some of them are doing it.

00:20:47.000 Not all the media is laying down, rolling over, and there's a lot of good people in radio that are speaking out and a lot of people on the internet.

00:20:58.000 I think we have more ways to fight back today than we did 50 years ago.

00:21:04.000 So I think with you doing what you're doing and all the other guys chipping in, every little bit helps.

00:21:11.000 And if we keep pointing out what's going on, And if we keep putting cameras on them, if we keep telling people what they're doing, maybe we can stop them from doing something really bad between now and election day.

00:21:24.000 Well that's my point, and the point that you and many others have made, is that there is this incredible danger, if they've got the will to orchestrate a 9-11 style attack, if they have the will to carry out all these chemical and biological and radiological tests on the people, Or the will to ship in these dangerous narcotics for our school children, and then run the phony war against it.

00:21:46.000 They're capable of doing anything, and you're right, we can't just remove the puppets.

00:21:50.000 We have to, once and for all, smoke the dark spiders, the corporate chieftains, out of their holes that have been engineering all this.

00:21:59.000 You're absolutely right, and I think Dennis is taking a giant step forward in giving that a chance to happen.

00:22:09.000 Every time he steps up there and reads another article of impeachment.

00:22:13.000 We're going to come back, because right now we're behind the scenes for folks on the internet.

00:22:16.000 We're going to be back in about a minute and a half to the full audience, Willie, and I want to get back into what's happening with Iran and Iraq and get your take on that.

00:22:24.000 But shifting gears into the economy, you know, you've been involved with Farm Aid and so much more, aware of how this international bank, central banks, operate.

00:22:33.000 We've got the IMF and World Bank documents where they admit they are engineering Well, I can see where they've done it with the farmers.

00:22:39.000 consolidate wealth and basically repossess America, come in and buy all of our companies, Anheuser-Busch, real estate, car companies.

00:22:47.000 Willie Nelson, what's your take on that?

00:22:50.000 What's happening right now with the economy?

00:22:51.000 Well, I can see where they've done it with the farmers.

00:22:55.000 We used to have 8 million small family farmers out there, and through various techniques, illegal and whatever, they have taken back over 6 million of those small family farms, and they've done it by doing exactly what you said.

00:23:11.000 They dropped the prices on everything, putting farmers out of business all over the world, just so they can pick up the land and use it to their advantage.

00:23:20.000 The big corporations want to do it all.

00:23:22.000 They want to put all the small family farmers out of business, and I still think that this whole thing, our entire economy that agriculture is the bottom rung on our economic ladder and the farmer is our backbone of that economic ladder.

00:23:39.000 So we have to bring the farmer back, the small family farmer.

00:23:42.000 We have to start thinking locally sustainable agriculture.

00:23:46.000 Take away our needs for importing, like T-Bone Pickens said, $700 billion worth of oil every year from foreign countries.

00:23:58.000 We could be making it ourselves out of wind, solar, biodiesel, ethanol.

00:24:06.000 We can do it all in 20, 30 years.

00:24:09.000 We can take ourselves off of oil completely.

00:24:11.000 In the meantime, we can drop our dependency.

00:24:15.000 Just by changing over, doing this and doing that.

00:24:18.000 Okay, Willie, I hate to interrupt you when you're on a roll.

00:24:20.000 We're coming back to the main audience.

00:24:21.000 Before you leave, let's get back into that, okay?

00:24:24.000 Here we go.

00:24:27.000 And when the war is over and we've won it, let's remember how we done it so we don't have to do it again.

00:24:42.000 You know, I love rodeos, and I go to four or five a year, and it's great to go to a rodeo where Willie Nelson's playing, because instead of having a bunch of pro-war propaganda wrapping the flag, you get a real patriot, a real Texan who really loves liberty.

00:24:57.000 And to see tens of thousands of people at the Austin Rodeo, Star of Texas Rodeo, sing along to that, instead of going to, say, the Teague Rodeo with my family, where my family's from out in East Texas, and I mean, we're talking 20 minutes of government worshipping, war worshipping,

00:25:13.000 Stuff, but it was totally hollow and nobody was even buying into it There and we're back live with Willie Nelson take your calls in the next segment and also later before he leaves us Get some into his solutions with agriculture and trying to save the family farm because his farm aid This year is coming up as well and give out some of his websites for you again Willie It's just wonderful and precious to be having this time with you.

00:25:41.000 Jesse Ventura, since you last came on the show and went public for 9-11 Truth, Jesse Ventura came on the show and then told me behind the scenes, he goes, look, I want to come out for 9-11 Truth.

00:25:51.000 You gave me films years ago when I was in Texas visiting with Willie Nelson and Kinky Friedman.

00:25:56.000 When I saw him at an event, he said, but now I've looked into it.

00:25:59.000 It's an inside job.

00:26:00.000 He went public, and even Fox News had trouble attacking him.

00:26:04.000 Now we've had the former Italian president, who was also the head of intelligence, go public.

00:26:08.000 German defense ministers, leaders in the Japanese Diet, their parliament.

00:26:13.000 We've had actress of the year go public.

00:26:16.000 I mean, it is just a mass of prominent people.

00:26:19.000 CIA section chiefs going public.

00:26:21.000 What is it like to see this type of courage, Willie?

00:26:25.000 Well, it's great.

00:26:28.000 We do know that there are some strong people in this country and around the world who will stand up for what's right, and it's always gratifying to see a guy jump up and say what he thinks, to stand up for what he believes is right.

00:26:41.000 I can see more and more people doing that these days, and it is very gratifying.

00:26:47.000 I don't think that the ring knockers, the establishment individuals thought that we would have this much courage or that this many prominent people like Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and so many others, Martin Sheen, right before he died, George Carlin.

00:27:03.000 I'm going to send you my new film.

00:27:04.000 Have you seen George Carlin talk about 9-11 being an inside job?

00:27:08.000 No, I haven't, but I would love to see that.

00:27:11.000 It's just incredible, Willie.

00:27:12.000 I mean, I know I'm kind of in awe here.

00:27:15.000 It's just we have to realize how positive it is that there are a lot of good Americans and others standing up.

00:27:22.000 Well, yeah, and when you look at it for what it is, it's no big deal.

00:27:26.000 It's somebody did something wrong and somebody needs to be outed for it.

00:27:31.000 And once you look at all the facts and see the pictures and And you hear all the stories, it doesn't take a German scientist to realize that, hey, we got hit by some inside people there.

00:27:44.000 We need to find out who it is.

00:27:46.000 And we need to find out quickly so it doesn't happen again.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh, it's so horrible, but just, I mean, it's so obvious, it's so simple, and you're saying the emperor has no clothes, and more and more people are saying it.

00:28:00.000 Willie, what has the response been like, since you came on my radio show twice, and then on, of course, Free Speech TV and Democracy Now!, and, you know, questioned the official fable, what has the response been like from your fans, from your supporters, and your detractors?

00:28:14.000 Ninety-nine percent in favor of what we've been saying, and a hundred percent of ours believing that we have the right to say it.

00:28:23.000 There's nobody that said, hey, shut up.

00:28:29.000 There's been a couple that didn't quite believe it and couldn't believe that we could do something like that, but I think the more we find out about what we are capable of doing and what we have done in the last couple hundred years, it's no stretch of the imagination to see that, hey, you know, we did this, we did that, of course we can do the Trey Tower, it's no big deal.

00:28:52.000 Well, you're right.

00:28:53.000 In fact, if you look at the British manuals on how to spread smallpox to the natives by giving them... That's not a rumor, folks.

00:29:00.000 We have the manuals that then was taught to the colonists who did it.

00:29:04.000 Or then when you look at the Tuskegee Experiment, or all the things that are still going on, or all these neocon warmongers, Well, no, you can't. 0.95

00:29:13.000 Eventually the truth will come out.

00:29:14.000 But in the meantime, a lot of people are dying and suffering.

00:29:16.000 And that's why I think it's so urgent that Dennis Kucinich keeps doing what he's doing.

00:29:19.000 and their children.

00:29:20.000 I mean, so many of these individuals think they can do all of this in a vacuum, and you can't do this in a vacuum, can you, Willie?

00:29:26.000 Well, no, you can't.

00:29:28.000 Eventually the truth will come out.

00:29:30.000 But in the meantime, a lot of people are dying and suffering, and that's why I think it's so urgent that Dennis Kucinich keeps doing what he's doing, keep hitting them on that sore spot.

00:29:41.000 It's like a drop of water on the dam. 0.68

00:29:45.000 If he keeps dropping water on that sucker, eventually it'll crash through and we'll find out the truth of what really happened. 0.93

00:29:52.000 But I think Dennis has got to keep pounding on impeachment. 0.93

00:29:55.000 I think that's the key to stopping anything really horrible coming up between now and, as you say, September, October.

00:30:04.000 Just a moment ago we went... Willie, this is kind of a split show now because I've also got hundreds of thousands viewing on the internet and tens of thousands watching on television.

00:30:04.000 Absolutely.

00:30:14.000 I just skip breaks with huge guests like yourself, so we've got one more break coming up, but we're skipping them.

00:30:21.000 Is that okay with you?

00:30:22.000 Oh, sure.

00:30:23.000 Whatever.

00:30:24.000 Absolutely.

00:30:24.000 Well, you're just awesome.

00:30:25.000 We're going to be taking calls when we get back into the main segment at 1-800-259-9231.

00:30:31.000 Again, Willie, getting back to the fact that the people are rising up, that has now cornered the rats that staged the attacks, and I'm trying to figure out their psychology and what they're going to do.

00:30:45.000 And most of the experts I talk to, Ron Paul, Ray McGovern, so many other people, Dennis Kucinich, people inside.

00:30:53.000 Ron Paul said last week before the House, he said, look, the shoe's going to be dropped in the fall.

00:30:58.000 They're intending to go ahead and start World War III. 0.74

00:31:02.000 And I guess try to bring us into martial law.

00:31:04.000 And we're here, I guess just with genuine communal horror, wanting to stop it.

00:31:10.000 Do you have any ideas how to stop it?

00:31:13.000 I mean, you're here on air speaking out.

00:31:14.000 You're prominent.

00:31:15.000 I guess we need to ask everybody who's prominent and has large followings to speak up.

00:31:19.000 What are some of the other ideas you have, Willie, to try to turn this around right now?

00:31:26.000 The only thing we can do is just to keep our words and thoughts out there in the atmosphere, and let people around the world know what we're thinking, and let's be open-minded of what they're thinking, and let's put our heads together and come up with ways to stop it, because, you know, we are smart enough to do it.

00:31:46.000 We can figure, we do know, we're standing here today telling everyone what we think is going to happen.

00:31:52.000 Now, how do we stop it?

00:31:53.000 I think we keep talking about it.

00:31:55.000 I think we do the impeachment.

00:31:56.000 I think we elect a guy who is thinking about peace rather than war.

00:32:06.000 We have to become a department of peace and we have to spread peace around the world instead of going around the world starting wars over all.

00:32:13.000 We don't have to do that anymore.

00:32:17.000 Well, you're absolutely right, Willie, and it's not just starting wars about oil.

00:32:20.000 It's also about, as you know, the hundreds of billions of dollars per year in no-bid contracts going into black holes, and it's the silencing political opposition at home.

00:32:30.000 And that's what in his consent list, in his articles of impeachment, how the president, they have policy reports saying, how do we shut down demonstrations?

00:32:40.000 How do we shut down free speech?

00:32:42.000 How do we train local police to shut down free speech?

00:32:45.000 So I want to come back to the full audience in about ten seconds and pose that question to you, and then to the audience, what their ideas of stopping all of this.

00:32:56.000 Here we go with Willie Nelson.

00:32:57.000 Back to the full radio audience.

00:32:58.000 We won't be left behind.

00:33:03.000 Our memories live on the portal mine.

00:33:07.000 And, boy, it's me.

00:33:11.000 We'll ride again.

00:33:16.000 I am a Midwest farmer.

00:33:22.000 I make a living off the land.

00:33:24.000 I ride a John Deere tractor.

00:33:27.000 I'm a liberated man.

00:33:30.000 The rain, it hasn't fallen since the middle of July.

00:33:34.000 And if it don't come soon, my crops will die.

00:33:39.000 The bankman says he likes me, but there's nothing he can do.

00:33:43.000 He tells me that he's coming, but the clouds are coming too.

00:33:47.000 He ain't my friend.

00:33:50.000 And I'll ride again.

00:33:55.000 1-800-259-9231 is the toll-free number to talk to Willie Nelson.

00:34:03.000 Now, I want to talk about callers, not side issues.

00:34:07.000 We have limited time with him.

00:34:08.000 Only about 25 minutes left.

00:34:09.000 I want to talk and get your questions or comments for Willie Nelson on the Iran attack that is...

00:34:18.000 I've got family in the military.

00:34:18.000 Coming up.

00:34:20.000 I've got sources in Congress, in government, in intelligence.

00:34:23.000 It's on.

00:34:24.000 It's on in September or October.

00:34:27.000 I've had so many congressmen on, former CIA section chiefs saying that Bush will stage a terror attack.

00:34:36.000 I mean, Ray McGovern's chief White House briefer to Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr., he's not even mincing words anymore.

00:34:42.000 I mean, it is on.

00:34:43.000 They are going to stage terror attacks.

00:34:45.000 That is the green light.

00:34:47.000 They've got their people out there saying they're going to attack Iran, telling the public it's got to happen. 0.85

00:34:52.000 It's on.

00:34:53.000 You thought they were bold and attacked Iraq when we all knew it was a lie before. 0.99

00:34:57.000 Well, watch.

00:34:57.000 They're going to do it again, but the Iranians are not a pushover.

00:35:00.000 They're $65 million instead of $23 million.

00:35:03.000 They've got more high-tech weapons, and they're going to block the Strait of Hormuz, and Bush has moved the aircraft carriers in close so they can be hit.

00:35:10.000 That's why Admiral Fallon resigned.

00:35:13.000 I mean, this is serious.

00:35:15.000 This is the end of America.

00:35:17.000 The real target of this is the U.S.

00:35:19.000 They want a war to bring us into a depression, to fully consolidate what's left of the free market, and bring us into total tyranny.

00:35:28.000 Now, I've had top analysts on Scores of them the last two weeks all agreeing that is the attack profile of the New World Order and the puppeteers controlling George Bush and his cronies and they own the Democrats as well.

00:35:42.000 And this may have been an attempt on Ron Paul's life with him and seven congressmen and sudden total depressurization.

00:35:49.000 They barely got the plane down when it took off from Houston last night and we know they've killed a lot of congressmen and senators.

00:35:55.000 We've got to be praying for Dennis Kucinich.

00:35:58.000 Before we go back to your calls, and again folks, I want to hear your ideas for solutions, how we can stop this war, what type of stunts can we pull that are peaceful, banner hangs, whatever, calling into Congress.

00:36:11.000 Here's the number to the White House, I mean to the House switchboard.

00:36:16.000 Now this is the non-toll-free.

00:36:18.000 Why am I giving you that?

00:36:19.000 The toll-free is limited numbers and is jammed most of the time.

00:36:23.000 The non-toll-free you can get through on 202-224-3121.

00:36:30.000 202-224-3121.

00:36:30.000 Call your congressman or woman.

00:36:32.000 Call the House Judiciary Committee.

00:36:33.000 Tell them, vote for impeachment.

00:36:35.000 Vote to send it to the full House.

00:36:37.000 When Dennis Kucinich Literally goes into Mordor, literally into the gates of hell to move for impeachment.

00:36:46.000 The last person that even talked about this up in Minnesota, the Senator's plane blew up.

00:36:53.000 202-224-3121.

00:36:54.000 And by talking about how these murderers kill people, that may preempt them from going after Kucinich.

00:37:00.000 And I've talked to him on air, he said a few weeks ago he knows he's in danger, he knows these people are serious, but he says He says this is a spiritual thing.

00:37:08.000 He says he's crossing that line and that he's doing the right thing and putting his trust in the Creator.

00:37:12.000 I've never heard Kucinich talk like that, so, I mean, you know he's at a high level there.

00:37:17.000 When you start fighting evil at these high levels, because I've done it myself, not at that level, but I've, it's a line you cross.

00:37:23.000 I hate to get mystic here, but Willie, I mean, do you know what I'm talking about here?

00:37:27.000 Well, yeah, there is that line that I think, you know, you and I We not only crossed it, we leaped over it a while back.

00:37:38.000 It's always dangerous.

00:37:41.000 I'm concerned about Dennis or anybody else who speaks out against this administration because these guys are serious.

00:37:52.000 People love their power and they hate to give it up.

00:37:55.000 Their money and their power is all they have and if they lose that, they feel like they've lost their divinity.

00:38:02.000 They're going to hang on to their power.

00:38:03.000 Absolutely.

00:38:05.000 And we just need to realize and really pray for and just in our core, in our spirit, know that Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul and others are really facing the Dragon down at point blank range and need our support.

00:38:20.000 And so does Willie and everybody else that's out there speaking out.

00:38:24.000 Willie, before we go to some calls, and again the number is 1-800-259-9231, I want to hear your ideas for solutions or ways to stop this war.

00:38:33.000 Willie, any other ideas you've got to try to stop this attack on Iran? 0.78

00:38:40.000 Well, first of all, I think impeachment is good.

00:38:42.000 We have to do that to get people to realize, hey, these guys are bad and we have to stop them before they do.

00:38:49.000 And they're thinking that we won't do it.

00:38:52.000 They're thinking that they have plenty of time between now and election day to do what they already have planned to do.

00:38:59.000 Whether we can stop them or not, I don't know.

00:39:03.000 God help us if we can't, because Once we bomb Iran, then all hell breaks loose. 1.00

00:39:13.000 America is not the same America as we knew it the second afterwards.

00:39:19.000 And not only that, we will bring down hardships not only in ourselves, but people all over the world.

00:39:26.000 Not to mention just the price of a gallon of gas.

00:39:29.000 Right now it's $4 or $5.

00:39:30.000 It's $10 over there in England.

00:39:33.000 It will be much higher.

00:39:36.000 Well, you're absolutely right, and for those who don't understand the globalist mindset, it's problem, reaction, solution, or order out of chaos, as Bush has said in speeches.

00:39:45.000 And they believe by getting us into a crisis so bad, where our military is being defeated, And that's probably going to happen in the first stages, just like they invited the Japanese attack and ordered the ships and planes to stand down, and that's now been declassified.

00:40:00.000 They plan to get us into a war that's so bad that a lot of Americans are going to say, well, I didn't support the war, but dammit, we're in a crisis and I've got to get behind George Bush, and then he may end up being like FDR and just staying in office.

00:40:13.000 And I think that is a One of the things that's being stolen most out there these days is gasoline.

00:40:18.000 Farmers have to watch their tractors.

00:40:20.000 analysts are talking about eight ten dollar uh gallon gas martial law in america and they've now put that on the books well yeah you know now one of the uh one of the things that's being stolen most out there these days is gasoline farmers have to watch their tractors people are stealing gasoline because it is so damn expensive and they uh it's down to push and shove they need a gallon the gas to get from here to there

00:40:49.000 and at some point people will do anything uh and when it comes down to food uh that's the next thing on the list they'll do anything to feed their family so we are in for some tough times and And then we have to try to somehow educate the public that they have orchestrated this.

00:41:06.000 I mean, I have the banking documents, you have them, you've been fighting this since before I was born, where the banks, well you grew up, you know, with your family being farmers on a farm in Texas, pretty close to where my family's from, on my dad's side, and everybody knew back then they were predatory.

00:41:21.000 How did they train Americans not to question the establishment and not to question banks?

00:41:26.000 I mean, when did Americans start losing their sense, Willie?

00:41:30.000 Well, when they started controlling the media and when they started telling us from early morning until late and dark how well things were going and how things were fine and we shouldn't worry about a thing that, you know, Big Brother's taking care of us.

00:41:45.000 And now we see what Big Brother was doing while we had our backs turned.

00:41:49.000 He was taking over, stealing everything that we had.

00:41:53.000 And now they know that we're waking up to them with Congress with a 9% approval rating for the first time in U.S.

00:41:58.000 history, and so they're trying to put a police state into place so that we can't have a counter-revolution against their revolution.

00:42:05.000 We're not the revolutionaries here.

00:42:06.000 We just want our country back.

00:42:08.000 Willie, do you have any message to the people in government, to the police and others, about some of the things we're going to be facing in the near future?

00:42:16.000 I mean, I've had state police calling in saying, I thought you were nuts, but now the feds have come in and told us, yeah, get ready for martial law and you've got to do what the president says.

00:42:25.000 Do you have any message to them, Willie?

00:42:27.000 Well, except that we have to just, you know, there's no magic words that I can say that will stop it, but I do think all of us together can figure out a way to combat it and keep it from being as bad as it could be.

00:42:42.000 I think if we are aware of what's going to happen, that will Keep it from having such a great impact that it would if we were just sitting around blind, not knowing that anything was going to hit us.

00:42:53.000 At least now we can try to block it one way or another.

00:42:56.000 I agree with you.

00:42:57.000 That is the key.

00:42:58.000 If you expose false flags, self-inflicted wounds, government-sponsored black ops, then it takes the power away to where they can't stage it anymore.

00:43:08.000 And if you discredit the current system, then it loses the people's acquiescence.

00:43:13.000 They have to have you to go along with it.

00:43:15.000 It doesn't mean you have to go out and physically fight them with a rifle. 0.98

00:43:18.000 It means you just have to not go along And basically, in a lot of cases, to the police and military, just sit on your butts. 0.99

00:43:24.000 Don't go out and kill innocent Iraqis. 0.99

00:43:27.000 Come home. 0.61

00:43:28.000 If they set off a nuke in Chicago and then try to bring in a national draft, as McCain has said, this is going to go on with McCain.

00:43:36.000 Or probably Obama.

00:43:38.000 You have to then realize that that is a staged event and not go along with it.

00:43:41.000 Willie?

00:43:43.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:43:44.000 And I remember hearing a long time ago, what would happen if they started a war and nobody showed up?

00:43:49.000 Absolutely.

00:43:51.000 All right, I want to take some phone calls and the House switchboard again is 202-224-3121, 202-224-3121.

00:44:01.000 Ask for the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee or ask for other members of the committee.

00:44:05.000 Later in the show today I'll give you all their names and I'll even give you their direct lines, but those can be busy.

00:44:09.000 The switchboard has hundreds of lines and generally isn't.

00:44:12.000 202-224-3121.

00:44:13.000 Call them and say, Look, it's on record.

00:44:18.000 They admit that Bush committed all these crimes.

00:44:21.000 They wrote memos saying they could order the troops to torture children.

00:44:26.000 There's no debate.

00:44:28.000 Vote for impeachment.

00:44:29.000 And they can't blow up every congressman's airplane.

00:44:32.000 The answer here is all of us to say, look, we know what you're up to, shadow government, and just come out with your hands up, attention criminals, the game is over.

00:44:43.000 Willie, your take on that statement?

00:44:45.000 Well, I think you're absolutely right.

00:44:47.000 We've got to let them know that, hey, you're caught.

00:44:50.000 We found your hand in the cookie jar here, and there are certain consequences involved there.

00:44:56.000 First of all, you get voted out.

00:44:58.000 And then we'll decide what else to do to you.

00:45:00.000 But you are wrong.

00:45:01.000 You made a mistake.

00:45:02.000 You broke the law.

00:45:03.000 You have hurt our country.

00:45:04.000 So there are consequences for that.

00:45:07.000 And for Americans out there on the fence about all this, you've got a bad feeling in your heart.

00:45:13.000 Intellectually, you know we're in deep trouble.

00:45:14.000 You know we've been telling you the truth on this show and many others.

00:45:17.000 Things are getting more and more serious by the minute.

00:45:19.000 It isn't going to get better going down the same path.

00:45:21.000 We've got to change course now.

00:45:25.000 And a lot of people want to try to over-intellectualize it and say, well then what's the specific action?

00:45:29.000 It's just getting your heart right, getting your mind right, and saying no.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, from this moment on, you just have to say, okay, maybe I went along with their stories up until now, but I'm not going along with them anymore.

00:45:44.000 You know, you've lied to me once, that's too many times.

00:45:49.000 Absolutely.

00:45:51.000 Let's go ahead and take calls.

00:45:52.000 Ken in Texas, you're on the air with the one, the only, the living legend, Willie Nelson.

00:45:57.000 Go ahead.

00:45:59.000 God bless you, Alex and Willie.

00:46:01.000 I have two quick points.

00:46:02.000 The first one, I want to tell you how grateful I am, Alex, for you advertising Shea Lazine.

00:46:08.000 I feel like I'm 34 years old now, like you.

00:46:11.000 And the most important point I want to make is any congressman that doesn't support or vote for impeachment for the ones that we're speaking of should be fired and put out of office.

00:46:27.000 I mean, because they're very well aware of the same thing that we're aware of.

00:46:32.000 It's come to the point that this is extremely serious.

00:46:36.000 Well, just looking at this politically, it would gain the Democrats incredible political hay and ensure their victory across the board if they would do it, but they won't.

00:46:44.000 That's because they're scared, they're blackmailed, or they're on the take.

00:46:48.000 Willie?

00:46:49.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

00:46:50.000 There's one of those reasons, because they all know that they could stop it if they wanted to.

00:46:58.000 Obviously there's reasons why they don't want to, and I'm sure you hit on one of them.

00:47:03.000 There's really no excuse.

00:47:05.000 Absolutely, Ken.

00:47:06.000 I appreciate your call.

00:47:07.000 Adam, in Texas, you're on the air with Willie Nelson.

00:47:10.000 Hi, God bless you both.

00:47:13.000 Willie, I've been a part of your life since 1973, from three days in Atoka to Austin to Panther Hall to the Sportatorium.

00:47:25.000 Thanks for all the nights you've given us, and we really love you.

00:47:32.000 I was born and raised here in Texas, and I'm going to be moving out of here next month, and I'm going to go north and go up into the mountains and see what happens.

00:47:42.000 My heart's pretty sad right now, but that's what I'm going to do.

00:47:49.000 I'm glad you remembered Atoka, because you remember how dusty that was.

00:47:55.000 It was fantastic, though.

00:47:56.000 They had that path mode down through the forest all the way down to the festival, and the music was fantastic.

00:48:02.000 The sound was incredible.

00:48:05.000 That was a great three days, Willie.

00:48:07.000 Well, thank you.

00:48:07.000 I was wondering if I was going to have trouble finding the location and the set, and I was driving down the interstate, and I looked over to the left, and a few miles over there, I saw this huge dust cloud.

00:48:17.000 I said, oh, I think we've found a token.

00:48:23.000 All right, Adam, good to hear from you.

00:48:24.000 Scott in Arizona, you're on the air with Willie Nelson.

00:48:27.000 Hey, Willie, and hey, Alex.

00:48:29.000 Hey, how you doing?

00:48:31.000 Good, good.

00:48:32.000 I wanted to say this.

00:48:33.000 You've done a lot of great concerts in your time, as far as live aid to support the farmers.

00:48:39.000 I was thinking it would be great to do something like a 9-1-1 Troop concert, donate the money to the families that lost their loved ones, the firefighters that were out there, and also to support Dennis Kucinich.

00:48:52.000 What he's doing and it would be great to do that and get a lot of publicity.

00:48:57.000 I would agree to both of those things in a minute.

00:49:01.000 Those are wonderful.

00:49:02.000 It's a wonderful plan.

00:49:04.000 Willie, I'm totally freaking out right now.

00:49:06.000 You know, you gave me your cell phone number and other contacts and I haven't called you in five months because you're one of the few people I'm actually starstruck by and I was kind of nervous stumbling around calling you this morning to come on the show.

00:49:16.000 I have been dreaming of inviting you to New York this year for the anniversary, getting some haul, just having you speak or play your acoustic guitar, and we know the first responders, the heads of the victims' family groups, or to even have a benefit here in Austin for the firefighters and police, but I know you're so busy and you've already done so much for 9-11 Truth, but since the caller brings it up, Maybe I should talk to you off-air later today about doing something like that.

00:49:46.000 Because I think we're talking about solutions or a free concert somewhere as a media event to say a no attack on Iran, yes to impeachment deal. 0.70

00:49:56.000 That might be good.

00:49:57.000 It'd probably be like Woodstock, Willie.

00:50:00.000 I think you're right and I think people want to find a way to speak out and let their voices be heard and that's what you and I need to do is to give them a way to do that.

00:50:12.000 We'll find a hall or a field or something somewhere and we'll go over there and we'll give people a chance to stand up and Talk about what they believe in.

00:50:22.000 I just want to thank Scott, calling from Arizona, who I don't know from Adam, because I just, I just can't, I can't ever ask for things from the celebrities I know, just because I don't want to feel like I'm bugging them, but Willie gives so much, this is just incredible, for all the stations.

00:50:38.000 Well thank you, and I want to say to Scott, before you take off to the mountains up there, hang around a little while, and watch all this stuff come down, and you know, if something happens really bad, I'll go to the mountains with you.

00:50:51.000 but i think i must end here and i think that i would skip this break to here we go behind the scenes willy nelson willy uh...

00:51:00.000 speak of the devil You know, you've got your great places out with the Perdonals and stuff.

00:51:05.000 My wife's even instinctively saying, we've got to get a place out by Fredericksburg or Johnson City.

00:51:09.000 Women always have that instinct, and she's never been like this. 0.89

00:51:14.000 This morning, she's saying, we've got to go try to buy some land or a house.

00:51:17.000 I want to get the hell out of this city.

00:51:19.000 And all the women I know are talking like that. 1.00

00:51:22.000 That always tells me something when the women think something really bad's coming. 1.00

00:51:25.000 That kind of worries me.

00:51:28.000 Well, you know, they have that intuition that, as you and I both know, is usually right.

00:51:36.000 You know, I think it's going to be a depression, Willie.

00:51:38.000 What do you think?

00:51:39.000 Oh, I think we're already in a depression.

00:51:43.000 It just depends on where you are.

00:51:44.000 If you just lost your home and your job and you're out on the streets, you're in a depression.

00:51:50.000 If it hadn't happened to you yet, Uh, God bless you because hang on, there's some bad things going on out there and hopefully it won't hit you, but we are in a depression.

00:52:00.000 Uh, there's a lot of people suffering right now in this country and have been for a long time.

00:52:05.000 And the fact that we're just now talking about a possible, uh, depression, uh, is, uh, it shouldn't let everybody know that, hey, we must be in one if we're talking about it.

00:52:16.000 Unbelievable.

00:52:17.000 We're on air for the viewers on the internet right now, Willie, so we're not really behind the scenes, but when is a good time for me to call you to talk about this idea of doing some type of anti-war slash 9-11 truth?

00:52:35.000 I mean, we've only got a few months, so obviously we want to set it up as quickly as possible.

00:52:40.000 I mean, if you really want to do that, You know, whether we do it somewhere in upstate New York, because it's near New York, or whether we do it somewhere outside Austin.

00:52:49.000 I mean, if you're really serious about wanting to, and I know you always step to the plate, if you really want to do that, we need to get on it.

00:52:56.000 Well, yeah, and there's two or three things, two or three options there, and we need to figure out just exactly which one we want to do, where we want to do it, because you say, as you say, we're running out of time.

00:53:09.000 We don't have too much time to figure out what we're going to do, but I'm ready to go to New York or Austin anytime.

00:53:16.000 It might even be good to... Denver's totally booked up, but people do anything for Willie Nelson.

00:53:23.000 I'm going to cover Denver and the microwave guns and the police state and the free speech zones.

00:53:27.000 I'm also probably going to go to the RNC, but I've already booked for Denver.

00:53:31.000 Maybe if we had some type of event in a field or somewhere, or someplace outside Denver or in Denver if we could, that might put...

00:53:42.000 I'd heard you might be even playing in Denver in association with the DNC.

00:53:48.000 And I know you might not want to...

00:53:50.000 Yeah, they've hired me in the van to come play.

00:53:54.000 So we'll be there full force.

00:53:58.000 Well, I don't want to stir something up with that, but if that's a choice you want to do, you make the call, Willie, and then I can...

00:54:04.000 I mean, you've got the organization, but if you want me to try to organize it, I can.

00:54:07.000 Whatever happens.

00:54:08.000 I want to hold you until five after in the next hour, so we have enough time to finish up on the farm stuff.

00:54:13.000 Is that okay?

00:54:15.000 Oh, that's fine.

00:54:15.000 And as far as what we're going to do, let's concentrate on New York or Austin.

00:54:20.000 I don't think Denver would be an appropriate place for me to go do something like that.

00:54:24.000 I agree with you.

00:54:25.000 I was just throwing an idea out.

00:54:27.000 Here we go, Willie.

00:54:27.000 We've got ten more minutes.

00:54:28.000 Okay.

00:54:28.000 Man, this is feeling good.

00:54:39.000 Ha ha ha ha.

00:54:40.000 Willie Nelson and Alex Jones brainstorming about a 9-11 truth stock.

00:54:47.000 Minus the yellow acid.

00:54:49.000 This is amazing.

00:54:50.000 Ride like a one-eyed jack of diamonds with the devil.

00:54:54.000 We'll see how we're gonna ride.

00:54:56.000 It's incredible.

00:54:58.000 Willie, we've only got about five minutes left in this segment and four minutes in the next and I'm going to let you go because you're very busy and have your own XM radio show coming up today.

00:55:06.000 Before we take a few final calls and talk about the depression that we see unfolding and really hurting the farmers and ranchers more than ever, fire out some of the websites, your peace organization, some of the groups that people can get involved with you in to really try to be the change we want to see in the world.

00:55:23.000 Sure, yeah.

00:55:24.000 FarmAid.org is the big address for people.

00:55:29.000 We're doing Farm Aid on September 20th up in Boston, and if we can call attention to that and bring as many people as we can to rally around us up there, that would be great.

00:55:42.000 Well, my heart's beating, and few things excite me anymore, Willie, because I've seen quite a bit, not as much as you, but I've actually got butterflies.

00:55:49.000 Let me just put you on the spot.

00:55:51.000 Did you get butterflies and excited when we just spontaneously, because of a caller, decided to do some type of truth rally?

00:56:00.000 Well, you know, I'm always looking for excitement, and if it's doing something that I love to do and believe in, well, it doesn't get any better than that.

00:56:12.000 I love to play music and I love audiences and crowds, but there's also something that's gratifying about saying what you believe.

00:56:22.000 And doing the right thing.

00:56:24.000 Again, Willie, I know you hate people telling you how great you are, but let me tell you, I just love you to death and love your courage and your passion and your spirit.

00:56:31.000 You know, the time I got to meet you in person, it was really intense to be around you in person.

00:56:38.000 You're just an amazing individual and I just wish to God we had more people like Willie Nelson.

00:56:44.000 Give out the Peace Institute website as well.

00:56:50.000 Willie Nelson, PRI.com, Peace Research Institute, and farmaid.org.

00:56:58.000 Just stay in touch and let's put our heads together and see what we can do to get peace in the world and also in doing that we'll not only help the family farmer, we'll help everybody else.

00:57:12.000 Let me just recap for everybody.

00:57:14.000 Dennis Kucinich going into the belly of the beast this Friday in the Judiciary Committee in the House presenting the crimes of the Bush administration.

00:57:22.000 This is just unparalleled in history and there's almost no media coverage.

00:57:27.000 Demand there be coverage of this and we salute Willie Nelson for stepping up to the plate today to come on the air and try to bring attention to this and no doubt it will.

00:57:35.000 Let's talk to Tom in Oregon.

00:57:37.000 Tom, you're on the air with Willie Nelson.

00:57:38.000 Quickly.

00:57:40.000 I've been a long time fan and I'm just kind of getting into the prison planet and everything that goes with it.

00:57:48.000 Don't you guys think that the whole mess that this country and the world is in right now all has to revolve around energy?

00:57:59.000 I think we need to make huge leaps for energy.

00:58:02.000 I don't think these baby steps that we're taking, I really have a feeling that Otis T. Carr And Ralph Ring, and I don't know if you've heard of Gordon Novell, but I think they're on to something that all the governments of the world don't want us citizens to know about.

00:58:20.000 And that's Zero Point Energy.

00:58:24.000 Stay there, Tom.

00:58:24.000 We're going to come back.

00:58:25.000 Final segment with Willie Nelson after a 70-second break.

00:58:28.000 Only five minutes left, because earlier he wanted to get into energy reform, and so we'll come back.

00:58:33.000 Willie is a big into that.

00:58:34.000 Final segment with Willie Nelson, InfoWars.com.

00:58:40.000 You are listening to GCN.

00:58:41.000 Visit GCNlive.com.

00:58:44.000 Yeah, we're going to keep going.

00:58:46.000 Let me just talk to Willie real fast, John.

00:58:51.000 Yeah?

00:58:51.000 Hey, Willie?

00:58:53.000 I appreciate you letting me get you into all this trouble.

00:58:57.000 That's no problem there.

00:59:00.000 Well I know you've always been standing up to the man.

00:59:02.000 When is a good time for me, and again, I'm not going to even try to push you to how to set it up or what to do, I just want to somehow be involved and help you in any way, when should I call you, what tomorrow or something, or when's a good time for me to call you when you're on the bus, on the road, to try to get some idea of what we should do in New York or Austin?

00:59:25.000 Why don't you do a little research yourself on Austin and New York, and I will too.

00:59:29.000 We'll check my itinerary and call me tomorrow and we'll figure out something we can do.

00:59:33.000 Yes sir, what's a good time?

00:59:34.000 Just like 10 or 11 in the morning again?

00:59:36.000 Oh yeah, that's about the same time we could talk today.

00:59:39.000 That'd be great.

00:59:39.000 That's a good time for you.

00:59:40.000 I know you're up late doing these shows, so 10 in the morning is good.

00:59:45.000 No, 10 or 11 o'clock's fine.

00:59:46.000 Because you get up and jog every morning, don't you?

00:59:49.000 Well, I tell everybody I do.

00:59:53.000 Okay, hey, listen, I'm not going to twist your... I get up some mornings and jog.

00:59:57.000 Okay, well, I'll call you tomorrow morning, sir, and say hi to your wife and family.

01:00:00.000 We're going to go into the final segment right now.

01:00:03.000 Here we go, sir.

01:00:06.000 Government cover-ups.

01:00:08.000 You want answers?

01:00:09.000 Well, so does he.

01:00:11.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:21.000 Folks, I am as happy as I have been in my life except for the birth of my three children.

01:00:28.000 Because I know that I have a blind spot.

01:00:32.000 I can't make myself bug big celebrities or ask for things from them.

01:00:38.000 And Willie's such a nice guy that if he thinks in his heart it's a good thing to do, he'll generally do it.

01:00:44.000 And that's what I've been told by folks who have known him for decades.

01:00:46.000 And now he just says, yeah, let's do a 9-11 slash impeachment anti-Iran deal.

01:00:51.000 So we're going to be setting that up in the next month or so, next couple months, whenever Willie wants to do it.

01:00:55.000 In closing, I know we got loaded phones, but we're out of time.

01:00:59.000 We'll have Willie back, undoubtedly.

01:01:00.000 In the last three or four minutes we've got, sir, earlier you were trying to get into, when we went to break, energy dependence and systems to get off of it.

01:01:08.000 They're demonizing ethanol, but that's from corn.

01:01:11.000 You're talking about the cooking oil and trash and the pig farms and the chicken farms.

01:01:16.000 You're talking about systems that use the waste we're just dumping in rivers right now to create cleaner burning fuels.

01:01:24.000 In closing, Willie Nelson, that's a way to create a new economy as you have said as a visionary and you've got all the evidence to re-energize the family farm and try to save what we've got left and get us off of the oil.

01:01:38.000 Absolutely, and we can do it.

01:01:39.000 We have the ability to do it.

01:01:41.000 We have the resources, and I think the secret is to keep it local and sustainable.

01:01:47.000 If you have something around you that farmers grow that you can use, use it.

01:01:53.000 Anytime you import something, it costs more and it pollutes the environment.

01:01:57.000 Anytime you can buy it locally, you're getting healthier food because you know where it's coming from.

01:02:03.000 So I think the important thing for us to do is to make sure that we support our local Agriculture, our local economy, and not become dependent on bringing in everything from around the world.

01:02:14.000 Because you look at your table where you ate breakfast this morning, and everything on your plate probably came from 12 to 1500 miles away.

01:02:23.000 And that's a huge waste.

01:02:25.000 It could have been done outside your back door by farmers that you know.

01:02:29.000 Now just 70 years ago, I would guess, growing up in North Central Texas, that everything on your plate every morning was from right there in the little town you grew up in.

01:02:37.000 In Napa, Texas, we had our own chickens, and we had eggs, and we grew our own beef, and we had hogs out there that we grew, and we had a garden.

01:02:48.000 So we pretty much were self-sufficient, and I think Probably out of necessity because of the high prices of everything.

01:02:56.000 We're going to have to get back to that kind of living again.

01:03:00.000 And honestly, I think it will be good for us to go back to the basics and be able to take care of ourselves without having to depend on somebody on the other side of the world.

01:03:11.000 Absolutely.

01:03:12.000 You can find all of his websites through WillieNelson.com.

01:03:16.000 You can also find out about all the prolific new records, new albums you've been putting out.

01:03:22.000 Willie, I've been reading all the reviews, too, quite a few of the reviews.

01:03:26.000 The reviewers are saying that you seem to, like a fine wine, be getting even better now that you had your 75th birthday.

01:03:33.000 Are you hitting kind of your third or fourth wind here?

01:03:40.000 I'm breaking wind right now, I think.

01:03:43.000 Well, yeah, I do have a lot of energy, and I ride a bike, and I do what I can to try to get rid of the energy.

01:03:56.000 And then I do a two-hour show on the stage every night, so at the end of the day I try to get well spent.

01:04:03.000 That's the secret, I think, to being healthy spiritually, mentally.

01:04:08.000 Is to do a lot of exercise and keep your body going.

01:04:13.000 And you talk a lot about that in your book with Turk Pipkin, The Tao of Willie, a New York Times bestseller.

01:04:19.000 Be sure and get that as well.

01:04:21.000 Willie, I am completely blown away by this interview, and I sense destiny here, something big, and I pray that this does happen, and we just appreciate all your time.

01:04:31.000 I'll say bye to you off air here in just a moment, and I will talk to you in the morning, sir.

01:04:36.000 You're going to be playing tonight in Council Bluff, Iowa.

01:04:40.000 Is that sold out like most your shows, or can folks go to that?

01:04:44.000 Well, I think it's a casino, so it's probably pretty well sold out.

01:04:49.000 But if you're around here close, you might come over.

01:04:53.000 But it's a small venue, so it's probably pretty well sold out.

01:04:58.000 Alright folks, that is basically it with Willie Nelson.

01:05:02.000 You can just Google Willie Nelson or go to WillieNelson.com and find out other tour dates.

01:05:07.000 He is a man who needs to be supported as well as Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

01:05:11.000 Again, Willie, just I love you to death and I want to thank you and your family for all your time and I will call you about 10 a.m.

01:05:17.000 in the morning, sir.

01:05:19.000 Hey, thank you for what you're doing, Alex.

01:05:20.000 Keep up the good work and yeah, call me tomorrow and we'll figure out what we want to do next.

01:05:25.000 Absolutely, Willie.

01:05:26.000 Take care.

01:05:28.000 Wow, man, I am just blown away right now.

01:05:33.000 You see, I didn't even ask Charlie Sheen to do that 9-11 conference in L.A.

01:05:37.000 that ended up on C-SPAN.

01:05:39.000 That was his idea, but then he didn't want credit for it, but then I just have to give him credit.

01:05:44.000 See, I couldn't even ask him to do that.

01:05:47.000 And then I couldn't even ask Ventura for stuff.

01:05:50.000 And I can't seem to ask Willie for stuff.

01:05:53.000 The caller from Arizona, I think it's going to be big.

01:05:55.000 I mean, folks, can you imagine Willie Nelson, a 9-11 truce slash anti-war concert?

01:06:00.000 I think you're going to have tens of thousands there.

01:06:01.000 This is going to be huge.

01:06:03.000 My God, and folks, there's no doubt they probably tried to kill Ron Paul yesterday.

01:06:06.000 One of their favorite ways is to depressurize planes, and they say it was bad.

01:06:10.000 And my God, he's supposedly on tomorrow, who knows if he'll be here now after this emergency landing they did.

01:06:17.000 They're getting ready to hit Iran, we got Truth Concerts coming up. 0.86

01:06:20.000 I mean, we are living... I am all freaked out and crazed, but at the same time I'm exhilarated!

01:06:27.000 What about you guys out there?

01:06:28.000 I mean, is this not incredible?

01:06:32.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, duty is ours.

01:06:36.000 Consequence belongs to the Creator.

01:06:40.000 And we do the right thing.

01:06:42.000 It just happened.

01:06:42.000 So, Willie's publicly saying he's going to do it, and then I was off air talking to him, and he was telling me, basically, engineer it.

01:06:51.000 What a responsibility!

01:06:53.000 I don't even know if I can go to Denver now.

01:06:58.000 Because, I guess I'm going to go, but we need to launch this fast.

01:07:01.000 We need to be big.

01:07:03.000 My God, people, email me at Aaron at Infowars.com.

01:07:08.000 All my old addresses are too spammed out, so I read them, but I've got to create a new email.

01:07:14.000 In fact, I keep forgetting.

01:07:16.000 Let me create some new ones, Dave, so I can give them out to listeners.

01:07:18.000 I've got to create new ones because they get worthless after a while.

01:07:22.000 Aaron at Infowars.com.

01:07:23.000 He's getting like a thousand a day now.

01:07:24.000 It's almost worthless.

01:07:27.000 Aaron at InfoWars.com.

01:07:28.000 Send me your ideas of venues around and around New York.

01:07:32.000 And I'm going to tell 9-11 truth, too.

01:07:34.000 Let me do this.

01:07:35.000 Don't run Willie off by a million of you going crazy and trying to climb over his fence for your 9-11 truth group.

01:07:40.000 If you don't act like a bunch of animals, some of you out there, some of the leadership, you'll be invited, okay?

01:07:46.000 Just do not try to... Well, they have a horrible term for it. 0.99

01:07:50.000 It's called cock blocking. 0.91

01:07:51.000 Don't do it, okay? 0.90

01:07:53.000 Alright, we're going back live right now.

01:07:54.000 Here we go.

01:07:57.000 Hey, Jones?

01:08:00.000 Yeah?

01:08:01.000 I do have your next guest.

01:08:02.000 Ah, here we go.

01:08:03.000 William Pepper.

01:08:03.000 Woah!

01:08:04.000 Yeah, baby! 1.00

01:08:05.000 Woo! 0.99

01:08:05.000 Oh yeah! 0.99

01:08:06.000 Ha ha ha!

01:08:10.000 Yeah!

01:08:13.000 Man, I am feeling good right now.

01:08:15.000 Willie Nelson on in the last hour for an hour.

01:08:19.000 Unbelievable.

01:08:20.000 We're going to have a truth stalker, whatever you want to call it, for 9-11 Truth, and against the Iran war.

01:08:25.000 That's the answer.

01:08:26.000 Getting major attention against the war, against attacking Iran.

01:08:30.000 Boy, black ops are going to try to stop that. 0.99

01:08:32.000 We have an amazing individual on air with us today he is William Pepper and I appreciate him rescheduling from last week as I wanted to do close to a full hour with him I mean if I tried to go over his bio this guy has seen it all another incredible guest and he is just a stalwart spending millions of his own money as a prominent lawyer to literally be a gumshoe for years tracking the murder of 0.75

01:08:58.000 First MLK, then RFK, JFK, and he's got lawsuits in there right now to expose the MLK murder.

01:09:05.000 He's in there exposing the Bobby killing, and he's just got the floor for the next hour.

01:09:09.000 Whatever this man wants to impart to us, knowledge-wise, I'm just so honored to be able to talk to people like Mr. Pepper.

01:09:19.000 I am so honored to be able to talk to people like Willie Nelson.

01:09:23.000 We've got Mark Cornkey coming up, and St.

01:09:24.000 John Hunt, the son of the CIA black op commander who ran the operation to kill Kennedy.

01:09:30.000 That's all admitted now.

01:09:31.000 He's coming on.

01:09:32.000 Going to William Pepper.

01:09:33.000 Mr. Pepper, it is good to have you on, sir.

01:09:36.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

01:09:38.000 Please, in a nutshell, you don't like to talk about yourself, but some people know who they're listening to, your depth and breadth of experience and knowledge.

01:09:46.000 In a nutshell, tell us about your life, and then get into, of these three murders, we just had Bobby's murder anniversary last week, assassination last week, just whatever area you want to get into.

01:09:58.000 Well, that's a pretty deep well, Alex.

01:10:04.000 I guess I began Well, I grew up probably like you did, and many others, as a son of America.

01:10:14.000 Hard-working, middle-class parents who had been immigrants from Ireland and infused with the blessings of this republic and the dream, came here, struggled, went to public schools, happened to be a baseball player.

01:10:35.000 And that enabled me to take examination to private school and went into private school late in my secondary education.

01:10:47.000 Then went on to Columbia on a scholarship and took two degrees there and played sports there.

01:10:54.000 Went to Cuba in 59 with one other member of the Columbia baseball team to play in a sports festival.

01:11:01.000 And, uh, these things started to open up one's eyes because the pictures, and I spent a fair amount of time with Castro and with Guevara as a young ball player and spoke the language, so I had an opportunity to learn a bit about what was really going on, what was behind that revolution, and why America had supported dictatorships for almost 60 years before the Castro revolution.

01:11:31.000 So, what started as a 12-year-old who could only find black kids to play baseball with in the heat of the summer required me to go into the ghetto and see for the first time how those people lived and had raised questions in my mind about what was going on socio-economically in the society, then carried on through the Cuban experience and then eventually I went to London

01:11:58.000 And met a number of developing world, potential developing world leaders who had different perspectives also on America.

01:12:08.000 I was at LSE and that was where, of course, the Rockefellers sent David early on in order to understand a bit about the world.

01:12:20.000 And Joe Kennedy sent John.

01:12:27.000 It was regarded as the place to go in terms of becoming aware of the world.

01:12:35.000 But that led me into reform politics, thinking that perhaps one could manipulate a system and make it a little bit better.

01:12:46.000 So I came back to the state, led a reform movement in Westchester County, New York, and became fairly, a very young guy, became fairly controversial.

01:12:56.000 With that, then, Bob Kennedy asked me to run his campaign in Westchester, which was a heavily Republican county.

01:13:04.000 And, um, and when he ran for the Senate in 1964, so I became his citizen's chairman.

01:13:10.000 And, um, uh, at that, at that point in time, eventually, um, this led through, uh, one human rights positions, head of the Director, Director of the Commission on Human Rights for New Rochelle.

01:13:21.000 The city was about to burn down.

01:13:23.000 It was called the Little Rock of the North.

01:13:25.000 And the only way we could stop it from burning was to put bodies in the streets and around country clubs of people who were discriminating against blacks in terms of housing and education and certainly the skilled trade unions.

01:13:40.000 The Electrical Workers Union still held their meetings in Italian in that city at that time.

01:13:46.000 So we had to crack all of that.

01:13:47.000 The only way you could crack it was not by using the fair housing laws or the equal employment law.

01:13:52.000 You had to Actually put bodies in the streets and stop an urban renewal project from going forward.

01:13:58.000 That was the only language that they understood.

01:14:01.000 Roads to power being through money and numbers, so we managed to mobilize numbers.

01:14:08.000 That led, I'm giving you a very brief summary because you asked for it.

01:14:14.000 No, but it's important, it's important.

01:14:16.000 Yeah, a little self-conscious about doing it, but that led to Vietnam. 0.94

01:14:20.000 I was just Very troubled about the war as a young guy.

01:14:25.000 And I got a journalist credentials.

01:14:27.000 And I got accredited by MACV, the accrediting agency over there at the time.

01:14:33.000 Spent a lot of time out in the country and just saw a lot of things that turned my stomach and made me disgusted and very, very uneasy.

01:14:42.000 And I guess I blew my... I didn't write anything when I was there.

01:14:48.000 I just took a lot of photographs.

01:14:49.000 Never developed any film.

01:14:52.000 Kept it all.

01:14:53.000 We were hit once going into a, um, uh, into play coup, uh, C-130 on the way in, uh, and had a rough landing and I hurt my back and had to go back into Saigon.

01:15:05.000 And, uh, first time I'd come out of the country and I was, um, bit, um, I, I just angry.

01:15:13.000 Uh, some friends took me to a, uh, a party and, uh, uh, Vietnamese, uh, she'll attached herself to me. 0.97

01:15:21.000 uh... that evening and drew from me what i really was feeling and seeing out there and next morning i was uh... summoned into uh... into the crediting officers uh... office commander madison uh... told me that he thought that uh... they were worried about me and i could lose my life out there i was wasn't attending their briefings and so i got i should probably go on home i'd probably uh... probably got hurt my back anyway and

01:15:49.000 And I told him I gathered, they were uncomfortable with my presence, but I wanted to go into a place called Tainan before I left.

01:15:59.000 And he said, what do you want to go to Tainan for?

01:16:02.000 He said, the Kong control that area.

01:16:06.000 I said, I want to go there because there's a leprosarium and I want to see how those lepers are treated. 0.97

01:16:11.000 Because I think you learn a lot about a people by the way they treat the most degraded and despised and shunned.

01:16:18.000 Uh, in their social units, and I want to see how they treat those leopards. 0.93

01:16:23.000 And he thought I was, uh, looked at me like I was a nutter. 0.72

01:16:26.000 And I said, I need a chopper to go in there.

01:16:28.000 Would you give me a chopper?

01:16:29.000 He said, no, we won't give you a chopper.

01:16:31.000 We can't afford to give you a chopper, but we'll give you a jeep with a driver.

01:16:35.000 And I said, I'll get back to you on that.

01:16:38.000 And I talked to some friends.

01:16:39.000 They said, look, you really better get out of here.

01:16:41.000 I mean, uh, jeeps with drivers don't work.

01:16:45.000 And the last guy they gave a Jeep with a driver was found by the side of the road.

01:16:49.000 You've got a pretty clear message.

01:16:51.000 You better leave here, because they're going to find a way to catch you one way or the other.

01:16:56.000 I left anyway, went back, and then wrote some things.

01:17:00.000 But the article that was probably the most damning was called Children of Vietnam, and was published in Ramparts in January of 1967.

01:17:12.000 My goodness, Alex, how long ago that is.

01:17:14.000 Martin King was a subscriber.

01:17:17.000 He saw it.

01:17:19.000 He almost threw up at the Atlanta airport on his way to the Caribbean when he thumbed through it and he saw the photographs that I published.

01:17:28.000 And when he got back, he asked to meet with me.

01:17:32.000 And that, of course, started a relationship the last year of his life.

01:17:37.000 I had been in the South in civil rights work at various times in the 60s and And on the Selma March and events like that.

01:17:45.000 But I'd never met him.

01:17:47.000 I just was a young student from the north.

01:17:49.000 But this then brought him directly into touch, and I opened my files to him at his request, and he just became nauseous.

01:17:58.000 He visibly cried when he saw the horror of that war.

01:18:02.000 And that's showing the real humanity.

01:18:04.000 People love to demonize Martin Luther King or go along with the FBI files that were complete misrepresentations.

01:18:09.000 But I've talked to a lot of folks that actually knew him, and they say, I mean, you can tell those speeches, that passion.

01:18:15.000 You can't lie.

01:18:16.000 I mean, that type of passion comes across.

01:18:19.000 That's why he was so powerful.

01:18:20.000 It wasn't just the words or the tone.

01:18:22.000 You could, I mean, Martin Luther King believed what he was saying and was a very deep man, was he not?

01:18:28.000 oh yeah there's there's no question about it I committed the last year of his life to working with him.

01:18:35.000 He asked me to head the National Conference for New Politics, which was an umbrella organization to go over all of the peace and poverty groups and potentially mobilize for a third-party ticket of himself and Ben Spock.

01:18:49.000 And that's why they killed him?

01:18:51.000 A large convention in Chicago with over 5,000 delegates from all over the country.

01:18:55.000 All over the country.

01:18:57.000 But it was subverted.

01:18:58.000 It was infiltrated and subverted.

01:18:59.000 And I introduced him.

01:19:02.000 I was Executive Director of NCMP.

01:19:05.000 I introduced him.

01:19:07.000 And when he was speaking, I was passed a note that said, you better get him out of here as soon as he finishes speaking or we're going to take him hostage and embarrass him before the world. 0.92

01:19:18.000 And that came from a black caucus.

01:19:21.000 Uh, and one of the first Black Caucus, supposedly Black Caucus groups that was formed, but what we didn't realize at the time was that Black Caucus was largely being led by Blackstone Rangers and others who were on the pay of the federal government and who were there strictly for the purpose of Yeah, they want to radicalize things to then discredit.

01:19:46.000 You know, we're going to skip this break with William Pepper because I want to have plenty of time to talk to him.

01:19:52.000 Here we go.

01:19:53.000 Yes, William, I skipped that break.

01:20:00.000 In the next four minutes, let's finish up kind of your awakening, then his murder, and then you're in a big lawsuit right now.

01:20:05.000 We can get into that or talk about Bobby.

01:20:07.000 Whatever you want for the rest of the hour, please continue.

01:20:10.000 Well, they killed Martin, of course, on April 4, 1968.

01:20:18.000 He delivered his speech against the war on April 4, 1967, called me very late that night, delivered it at Riverside, called me very late that night and said, now you've got to have to stay with me on this.

01:20:28.000 It's going to get tough because they're all going to reject me.

01:20:31.000 And by that he meant all of his so-called former friends from the civil rights movement, because they were afraid they were going to lose their federal funding.

01:20:41.000 And he was right.

01:20:42.000 They all walked away from him.

01:20:44.000 The New York Times called him a traitor.

01:20:46.000 They accused him effectively of treason.

01:20:50.000 But he was undaunted.

01:20:52.000 He lost all that support.

01:20:54.000 He almost ended up losing the support of his own congregation.

01:20:58.000 Who adored him, and he said to me at one point in February, he said, you've got to come down here and speak to my people.

01:21:07.000 And I said, what do you mean?

01:21:08.000 He said, you've got to come down here on a Sunday and take the pulpit, and you've got to speak to my people, and you've got to tell them why I have to oppose this war.

01:21:16.000 And I said, Martin, I thought he'd gone around the bend.

01:21:18.000 You want a white kid from the North to come down and talk to your people?

01:21:22.000 These are your people.

01:21:23.000 And he waved his finger, but he said, no, you've been there.

01:21:27.000 You've seen it.

01:21:28.000 You tell them, they'll believe you.

01:21:30.000 You've got to explain to them why I have to do what I'm doing.

01:21:34.000 And he was adamant about it, so I went down, I took the pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist Church, and I want to call it preaching, but I spoke to those folks, and I think at the end of it they had a better picture of why Their beloved pastor had to come out against this war.

01:21:52.000 And this is an example of the grip of brainwashing the American people were, when even black folks whose preacher was Martin Luther King, who'd seen churches bombed and people shot and dogs put on children, still buying in to the lie. 0.65

01:22:08.000 And then people say, you know, ask people to be leaders and stand up against evil.

01:22:11.000 But then when it really gets tough, people get deserted.

01:22:15.000 It's amazing.

01:22:16.000 It's just amazing.

01:22:17.000 Please continue.

01:22:19.000 It's kind of like the rejection of the Prophet in his own time.

01:22:22.000 And that was going on, but we continued throughout 1967, and of course the 100 cities burned between 1967 and 1968, so there was enormous paranoia, anti-war activity, and enormous economic deprivation in the inner cities, causing great disruption, turbulence, and so the The military in particular was very, very ill at ease.

01:22:49.000 They started to develop a plan in 1967 to eliminate King because he was giving credibility to the anti-war movement like no one else had.

01:23:02.000 He was bringing in white liberals from the North and he was potentially threatening all of the bottom lines of the major corporations that We're making fortunes on that war, as they do on all wars. 0.58

01:23:16.000 And so he really became increasingly intolerable, and that led to his death.

01:23:22.000 And when they killed him, Spock and I, Ben Spock and I, went down to the memorial and then to the funeral in Atlanta.

01:23:30.000 And Bobby asked me to come up and talk to him about the presidential campaign, because he had declared that he was going to run.

01:23:38.000 And I just didn't.

01:23:39.000 I've had enough of politics in this country at this point.

01:23:42.000 I'm sick of it.

01:23:43.000 I'm going to go away for a while and do something else.

01:23:49.000 So I didn't go to see Bob Kennedy.

01:23:51.000 That's what Jesse Ventura just did.

01:23:53.000 He said the country's gone and gave up, but you came back.

01:23:57.000 I hope he comes back.

01:23:58.000 We're going to join some stations right now, Mr. Pepper.

01:24:00.000 Here we go.

01:24:04.000 Talking to William Pepper.

01:24:05.000 He's seen it all.

01:24:06.000 Been a lawyer for the Kennedys.

01:24:07.000 They're in their campaigns for Bobby.

01:24:11.000 Worked very close with Martin Luther King.

01:24:15.000 He's doing so much, there's no way to cover it all.

01:24:18.000 He's involved in lawsuits, exposing the MLK assassination.

01:24:21.000 He, for years, most of the evidence we have of MLK being killed in the open and shut case, he went and proved.

01:24:27.000 Let's try to condense that down and talk about your lawsuit that's taking place right now.

01:24:31.000 Well, we had Of course, in terms of the King case, when we became aware, in 1978, Abernathy asked me to go up to the prison and interrogate James.

01:24:46.000 Actually, it was 1977.

01:24:49.000 I thought he lost it, because we'd all been convinced that James was guilty.

01:24:55.000 And he had no reason to doubt that at the time.

01:24:58.000 Again, it's our naiveté, right?

01:25:01.000 So, I told Ralph, I don't know anything about the case, and it took me several months to read everything, and understand what went on.

01:25:09.000 Then we went up to Sea Ray, and in the Brushy Mountain Penitentiary, and I interviewed him for five hours.

01:25:15.000 I put him through a lot of stress.

01:25:18.000 I had a body language expert, a psychiatrist from Harvard, who was a friend of mine, Howie Barron, come up, and he sat there.

01:25:25.000 His job was to stare at Ray, throughout the session, because I stressed him just to see how his body movements were reacting.

01:25:34.000 Anyway, at the end of the five hours, we all, Abernathy, myself, Barron, we came away with a view that Ray didn't do it.

01:25:42.000 He was definitely not the shooter.

01:25:44.000 He demonstrated with little knowledge actually of weapons, why he had bought one gun and exchanged it for another.

01:25:50.000 It just didn't, a lot of things didn't make any sense at all.

01:25:55.000 It stunk, right.

01:25:56.000 But we didn't know what role he might have played.

01:25:59.000 So I then started to go into Memphis on my own in 78 and started to snoop around.

01:26:05.000 And that snooping around, of course, has continued for about, well, it's now 30 years, although it's virtually done.

01:26:11.000 And I lived in the streets, went into shelters and befriended homeless people and drank in the bars because those are the people who really knew what happened.

01:26:24.000 And I started to get a picture of What really happened there, and Ray kept asking me to represent him, and I kept refusing.

01:26:32.000 I said, I gotta be confused.

01:26:34.000 I gotta be, if I haven't confirmed to my own head that you didn't, you had no role in the killing of Martin King.

01:26:41.000 And it took 10 years, Alex, and finally in 88, I agreed to represent James O'Reilly with his lawyer for the last 10 years of his life.

01:26:50.000 And we failed to get a trial for him.

01:26:54.000 A new trial for him.

01:26:55.000 We struggled.

01:26:55.000 We had a television trial, which was very real and very dynamic.

01:26:59.000 I've seen that.

01:27:00.000 It's incredible.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, and the jury took seven hours to find him not guilty.

01:27:05.000 Had a fraction of the evidence that then emerged where people started calling and providing information.

01:27:11.000 I did a first book called Orders to Kill, which developed all the evidence we had Let's briefly skip ahead now and then go back, but I want to plug your new book now before we forget.

01:27:24.000 Yeah, well, the second book, and the paperback of it has just come out, is called The Act of State, and that brought the evidence up to a trial that we held in 1999.

01:27:39.000 I represented the King family, and we tried a case over 30 days with 70 witnesses.

01:27:46.000 Was a civil action.

01:27:47.000 The family sued.

01:27:49.000 One of the people that I uncovered as being a key player in the assassination at the local level, a fellow called Lloyd Jowers.

01:27:58.000 We brought an enormous amount of evidence to bear.

01:28:01.000 And against Jowers, it took that jury 59 minutes to find that, of course, that Ray had nothing to do with the killing and that responsibility lay 70% with the government of the United States.

01:28:15.000 And the government of Tennessee, and Memphis, and 30% with Jowers, who was a minor player in the whole thing.

01:28:24.000 But of course, that verdict was, and that result, and that evidence is buried to the present time.

01:28:31.000 CNN is presently running a documentary, they call it an investigation, that they did with the total distortion and disinformation, which didn't deal with the evidence in the trial at all.

01:28:42.000 Didn't reveal to the people that we subpoenaed.

01:28:45.000 All the prosecutors tried to get them to appear and they ran for cover and got the Court of Appeals to give them protection so they didn't have to testify and be embarrassed.

01:28:54.000 But CNN ignores all of that kind of information and there is an effort, as you know, Alex, in so many areas of public life in America where there's been public wrong doing to cover up and to spread for all time on the history books the official story.

01:29:13.000 And I found Fox News with its cartoonish ridiculousness gives CNN then cover because they can act more credible but in a lot of ways puts out even more dangerous propaganda because it's slicker.

01:29:25.000 Yes, you're absolutely right about that. 0.55

01:29:27.000 So anyway, we...

01:29:28.000 Well, hold on, sir.

01:29:28.000 We're going to skip this break for stations out there.

01:29:31.000 We're going to continue talking.

01:29:32.000 But I do want to digress with William Pepper because there's so many things I want to bring up.

01:29:37.000 So when we get back to the full stations in three minutes, we'll continue.

01:29:40.000 But behind the scenes with PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and InfoWars.com audio stream listeners, we're going to keep talking to William Pepper right now.

01:29:47.000 Yeah, William, I'm sorry to break that up.

01:29:50.000 Only some stations and people pick up these behind-the-scenes, three-minute breaks.

01:29:55.000 I just don't want to waste time with you.

01:29:56.000 We'll come back and pick up with where you were at in three minutes.

01:29:59.000 But right now, I want to digress, because your knowledge is so wide-ranging.

01:30:02.000 Obviously, Bush wants to go into Iran.

01:30:04.000 A lot of people in Congress, Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, they say it's green-lighted.

01:30:08.000 I have, obviously, sources in the CIA, as you do, who are saying, oh, it's green-lighted.

01:30:13.000 They're intending to do it in September or October, barring a miracle.

01:30:18.000 A. Do you think that we're leaning towards that?

01:30:21.000 That it looks like the Globals are going to do it?

01:30:23.000 The Bush cronies?

01:30:26.000 I think Seymour Hersh, of course, also has his own sources and he's indicated that it looks like they're going to do it.

01:30:34.000 I think they certainly want to do it.

01:30:38.000 I think that the signs are right there.

01:30:41.000 Even the sending of the Deputy Secretary of State Burns as a kind of a cover.

01:30:47.000 Uh, to a futile meeting, uh, just so they could be able to say at some point, well look, look how far we went.

01:30:53.000 We tried everything.

01:30:54.000 We even talked about opening a services section in Tehran.

01:31:00.000 Yeah, it's a perfect replay where they're now saying Iraq had nukes, now you changed the last letter, now Iran has nukes, and it's the same fake detente, the same fake diplomacy, when we now have all their declassified documents.

01:31:13.000 All of that was false with Iraq. 0.99

01:31:15.000 Even when they told Saddam, you can leave the country, they had plans to shoot his airplane down.

01:31:21.000 I think that's absolutely right.

01:31:23.000 There's no question that they want to do this.

01:31:26.000 I think the question is only one of timing.

01:31:29.000 They may well wait until after the November election to see if McCain wins.

01:31:34.000 If McCain wins, then they may leave it to him because it's pretty evident that he's playing with the same deck and he's got the same mindset.

01:31:44.000 If Obama should win, there's more of a question mark there, so I think I would not be surprised to see it launch before Obama took office and he'd be saddled with the results of that attack on Iran.

01:31:58.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:31:58.000 Mr. Pepper, you've had a long, incredible life, seen so many things, but do you ever feel like you're in a dream?

01:32:05.000 I mean, I know you've seen a lot of things that are like that, but to me it's like, this is so bizarre, so obvious.

01:32:11.000 It's even more ham-fisted than Hitler's invasions in Europe. 0.93

01:32:16.000 It seems like a bad dream.

01:32:18.000 Do you ever feel bewildered?

01:32:20.000 Well, I feel tremendously distressed by the fact that the most powerful forces in the country really are the mainstream media, corporate media, because they just continually hide and dumb down the American public and distort and influence it.

01:32:41.000 So in your view, we are definitely entering a long, dark night.

01:32:44.000 Let me get your take on that right now.

01:32:46.000 They are enormously facilitating the demise of this republic and the end of democracy in the republic.

01:32:53.000 There is just no serious mainstream criticism at all that one can look at.

01:33:02.000 So in your view, we are definitely entering a long, dark night.

01:33:05.000 Let me get your take on that right now.

01:33:07.000 Here we go.

01:33:07.000 We're going to get back into the murder of MLK and big new developments there, R.C.

01:33:15.000 RFK, JFK briefly in the 25 minutes we have left with our guests.

01:33:19.000 But I do want to briefly digress and we were just talking behind the scenes for internet listeners and viewers, for the full radio audience.

01:33:27.000 We were talking about are they going to go into Iran and he was saying, well it looks like they're leaning towards that.

01:33:32.000 And he mentioned Cy Hirsch and others.

01:33:34.000 Our sources in Congress say the same thing.

01:33:37.000 Ron Paul, who isn't one to shoot his mouth off, said last week before the House that we're basically going to go into martial law and total tyranny because that's all the preparations he sees.

01:33:46.000 He says colleagues walk around giggling and talking about nuking Iran like children.

01:33:51.000 A mass mental illness Kind of one of those Bible verses about, you know, giving over to craziness.

01:33:59.000 Mass lunacy has now taken us, and he was getting into that, finishing up.

01:34:05.000 Do you see any way of changing this and going into this long, dark night that's going to make the 60s look like a tea party?

01:34:14.000 I'm afraid at this point in time, short of a very serious mass uprising in awareness, I don't.

01:34:23.000 KBR was given this contract for $385 million over a year, February ago, to build effectively a concentration camp-like facilities in every state of the Union and to refurbish some existing facilities so they could be used.

01:34:43.000 The excuse was that they needed these places for illegal immigrants, which is absolute nonsense.

01:34:50.000 Uh, when you talk about putting them up in Maine and Vermont and places like that, we're talking about illegal immigrants. 1.00

01:34:56.000 Well, Rex84 in the 80s, the original plan by Oliver North and Poindexter, as you know, serving a scholar, said they would use it as a cover, saying it was for foreigners, but it was really for dissidents.

01:35:07.000 Yeah, I think there's no question about that, and they are anticipating at some point a roundup, which is an excuse for the Declaration of Martial Law.

01:35:16.000 I think all of the seeds have been sown.

01:35:18.000 Uh, for martial law in this country.

01:35:21.000 Effectively, surreptitiously, of course, there's no barrier now to virtually doing anything that they want to do.

01:35:29.000 And that is the problem.

01:35:31.000 There is dissent.

01:35:33.000 There are some independent jurists and some independent courts.

01:35:36.000 I think they're going to run roughshod over them.

01:35:38.000 They just need an excuse to declare martial law.

01:35:42.000 And, you know, an attack on Iran, Or some type of false flag operation here in the United States would give them that excuse.

01:35:53.000 So I think we may not be terribly far away from that.

01:35:57.000 If they don't need to go to that extreme, if they can continue to dumb down the population and to minimize any kind of effective dissent, they're going to do that, of course.

01:36:08.000 So just continue.

01:36:09.000 The reason I think they're going to go with it... What's making it more and more difficult, Alex?

01:36:14.000 Is the decline of the economy, because there's no doubt now, we're heading back toward 1925.

01:36:22.000 That's what I was about to say, that's going to push him, and you just, next point, you just made it.

01:36:27.000 So are you saying you see this as an accelerant towards martial law, the economy imploding?

01:36:33.000 Go ahead.

01:36:34.000 Yes, I think increasingly as middle class people become alienated, As they did during the Vietnam War, by the way, when their children were being drafted.

01:36:45.000 Now, the alienation is not a draft, but it's going to be a loss of jobs, inability.

01:36:53.000 To feed their families.

01:36:54.000 Shortage of basic, of goods that they need.

01:36:57.000 I'll tell you what else is scary.

01:36:58.000 I'll tell you what else is scary.

01:37:00.000 They're taking masses of the Austin police to Israel to train them in anti-terror and literally in how to control the U.S.

01:37:08.000 That means the people.

01:37:10.000 And they're taking every other major city department over there for brainwashing. 1.00

01:37:14.000 I mean, and on their own battle plans, basically turning America into fenced-in cities and checkpoints where we're all slaves.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, I think that the signs are there that the preparations are being raised for the purpose of taking those steps if they have to take them.

01:37:34.000 He brought in the Orlando Air Reserve into Washington, brought them in, nationalized, brought them into Washington several months ago now.

01:37:45.000 And he did it very quietly, but in anticipation of serious unrest in the Capitol arising and having enough forces.

01:37:54.000 They didn't have enough forces to put down what they anticipated Martin was going to do in May, June of 1968 in Washington with the encampment.

01:38:05.000 So they were never going to be able to let that...

01:38:08.000 He could never leave Memphis. 0.99

01:38:10.000 They had to kill him because...

01:38:11.000 They've also announced everywhere, like Chicago, that we're going to use National Guard now to fight crime, not just terrorism.

01:38:18.000 So we're really seeing them flip the switches and turn on martial law already.

01:38:23.000 Yes, that's right.

01:38:25.000 I think that's right.

01:38:27.000 The prohibition of using military forces for civil disorder and civil purposes is gone.

01:38:34.000 It's effectively been wiped out.

01:38:36.000 So they have the tyranny system idling and now they're starting the juggernaut rolling.

01:38:41.000 I do with Congress with a 9% approval rating and 70 plus percent of the troops against the war and what I see I don't see it being a popular martial law like with Hitler. 0.75

01:38:51.000 I don't see it going well for them.

01:38:53.000 I think it may collapse like the Soviet Union. 0.86

01:38:55.000 Do you agree that's the best we can hope for?

01:38:57.000 Well, it is probably the best we can hope for.

01:39:01.000 They spent a trillion dollars on Iraq.

01:39:04.000 Obama's talking about beefing up Afghanistan.

01:39:07.000 He threw Brzezinski off his foreign policy team, as you may know.

01:39:11.000 Now, whatever one thinks of Brzezinski, the guy is nevertheless a hard-headed pragmatist.

01:39:17.000 Whichever side he's on, he is a pragmatist.

01:39:19.000 And he's been saying de-escalate.

01:39:20.000 Yeah, and he's saying do not make the same mistake that the Soviets made. 0.56

01:39:26.000 Do not do that in Afghanistan, Obama.

01:39:29.000 They threw him off the team.

01:39:31.000 He's talking about beefing up the troops in Afghanistan.

01:39:35.000 That's never going to be solved militarily.

01:39:38.000 Do not learn that lesson. 0.80

01:39:39.000 Well, that just gives the Afghans more targets to shoot. 1.00

01:39:42.000 Oh, there's no question about that. 1.00

01:39:44.000 It's a very foolish move.

01:39:47.000 We're going from one to another, and then if you're saddled with Iraq as well, and a declining economy, with the economy going into the toilet, This place is going to be on fire. 0.98

01:39:58.000 The dollar in free fall?

01:40:01.000 The dollar is in serious, serious trouble, and it's going to get worse.

01:40:06.000 And think about the price of oil if they attack Iran.

01:40:09.000 Well, Mr. Pepper, here's the thing.

01:40:11.000 Every analyst, liberal, conservative, mainline, father of Reaganomics, Joseph Sticklitz, Nobel Prize winner, yourself, you all say the exact same thing because there's no other way to analyze this. 0.96

01:40:22.000 And then I have some of the troops sending me threatening emails with their MySpace handles in uniform, not the majority saying, yeah, we're going to kill you too.

01:40:29.000 And they're laughing and think it's funny and cute.

01:40:32.000 Don't they know it's going to ruin their mother's and father's pensions and our whole, don't they know that they're going to get, that this whole corporate global system isn't their friend either?

01:40:42.000 Don't they understand that they're not going to get a cakewalk?

01:40:45.000 That they're bringing destruction down on themselves?

01:40:48.000 Or are they just so unknowledgeable about common sense and history that they have no idea?

01:40:53.000 They are unknowledgeable and they're continuing to be dubbed down.

01:40:57.000 They're continuing to be fed the propaganda.

01:41:00.000 And that's the great crime of the corporate media in this country.

01:41:05.000 Which is simply silent.

01:41:07.000 It does not inform the people.

01:41:09.000 It disinforms them continually.

01:41:13.000 That's what faces us.

01:41:14.000 The only thing you could do, people like you, Alex, with your outreach, you've got to try to make people aware of these things.

01:41:22.000 But more than making them aware, you've got to encourage them to organize.

01:41:28.000 We used to have a motto which said, don't mourn, organize.

01:41:32.000 If you love this republic, and you want to preserve it, or any semblance of it, you simply have to organize.

01:41:38.000 And you can start organizing at the local level and just spread the groups as much as possible.

01:41:44.000 Well, I agree.

01:41:45.000 And, folks, you're talking to a man who's lived it and done it.

01:41:48.000 It was on the phone with William Pepper.

01:41:49.000 I have seen quite a bit, but nothing like he has.

01:41:52.000 Don't wait until the martial law is in and they shut the main web off.

01:41:55.000 They already set Internet 2 up and said they're getting ready to shut down access to 95% of the web.

01:41:59.000 That's announced mainstream news.

01:42:01.000 Don't wait until the troops and the mercenaries.

01:42:04.000 I mean, when Bush is hiring tens of thousands of aggravated felons for the military, I mean, William, this is getting...

01:42:11.000 getting, again, Twilight Zone.

01:42:14.000 I keep imagining that, keep thinking that Rod Serling's gonna walk out in front of things and tell me it was all a Twilight Zone episode.

01:42:22.000 - Yeah, it feels unreal, doesn't it? - It does.

01:42:25.000 Well, we've only got about 18 minutes left, and just in a nutshell, what they did to Martin, what you discovered, and your book, all the Bobby stuff coming out, I mean, it's open and shut, isn't it? - Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that If we can move on, the King case has basically been solved.

01:42:44.000 There are a few loose pieces that I'm taking care of, but it's basically done.

01:42:48.000 Bob Kennedy, the Kennedy case is actually easier.

01:42:52.000 I was asked by Sirhan a long time ago to get involved and refused.

01:43:01.000 You know what happens when you get... I was working on the King case and now I would jump into that and they would say, Here he is, this conspiracy nutter, and it wouldn't... It was just not the thing to do.

01:43:11.000 Finally, we basically finished and the King family was satisfied because they really understood finally how Martin was killed and why he was killed.

01:43:22.000 They gave me some of the new information, the new evidence on the assassination of Bob Kennedy.

01:43:29.000 And it's overwhelming.

01:43:31.000 It's black and white.

01:43:32.000 There is just no question that Sirhan did not kill him and could not have killed him.

01:43:38.000 And so I've taken that case on full score now and we're going to press forward and using similar tactics I used in the King case, eventually we're going to be able to put under oath all of the evidence that will show that Bob Kennedy was not killed by Sirhan.

01:43:58.000 Bob was shot from behind.

01:44:00.000 Bullet went into the right side of his head by the right ear.

01:44:05.000 The gun, according to the autopsy report, was about an inch to two inches from the back of his head.

01:44:11.000 There were three shots that hit his body.

01:44:14.000 They were all from behind.

01:44:16.000 And they were all at very close range.

01:44:18.000 And a fourth shot went through his shoulder pad.

01:44:21.000 Sirhan was in front of Kennedy.

01:44:23.000 Never closer than three to five feet in the front of him.

01:44:27.000 He started shooting, the first shot appears to have been simply a blank cartridge that flared up and distracted everybody, and then he got a second shot off, and then his arm was pinned to the table, and he kept pulling the trigger and bullets went all over the pantry.

01:44:44.000 But while all that distraction was going on, Bob was hit.

01:44:49.000 The assassin hit him from behind, and it's quite clear That Sirhan didn't do it.

01:44:55.000 It's also quite clear that he hasn't got any recollection of what happened that he was hypnoprogrammed.

01:45:01.000 And this has been now analyzed by a number of people, including a psychologist who spent over 20 visits with him when he was in San Quentin.

01:45:10.000 So we've got a task ahead of us to look at the whole psychological aspect of this.

01:45:16.000 And the hypnoprogramming that we strongly believe was done to this guy to set him up the way that he was set up.

01:45:25.000 So that process is now in motion.

01:45:29.000 We're going to be persistent.

01:45:31.000 We're going to persevere.

01:45:33.000 And we're going to get this evidence out finally.

01:45:35.000 We've just had the benefit of acoustical evidence that has been

01:45:41.000 uh... revealed and confirms what we have from other uh... other aspects of evidence earlier very clearly indicating that thirteen shots were fired that two weapons were used because there's a acoustical difference between the sound of uh... of the of the discharge and it's a remarkable uh... because their hands gun of course only had eight bullets in it that uh... you know the number of shots that actually were fired indicating quite clearly a second gun And another assassin.

01:46:11.000 So all of that is scientifically indisputable.

01:46:17.000 One of the guys involved is the former president of the Association of Forensic Scientists of America, Robert Joling.

01:46:24.000 So I think, and Phil von Prague is the guy who did the acoustical work, so I think we're going to go forward with the Bob Kennedy case and eventually We'll reveal that he was assassinated by forces other than a lone gunman, once again.

01:46:40.000 And we're probably going to see the same people at work in this assassination, the same forces at work.

01:46:48.000 In this assassination, determined not to let Bob Kennedy become president.

01:46:52.000 What do you think of the news footage the BBC has gotten where it shows three known CIA guys all spinning images, dancing around right before he's killed, out there, and you can watch the body language, directing people too, looking like they're on a rabbit hunt or something.

01:47:09.000 Very obvious.

01:47:11.000 Well, I know Shane O'Sullivan quite well, and Shane did that piece, and he's also written a very detailed book.

01:47:19.000 A lot of his information is very, very good and solid.

01:47:25.000 I think I've got to look much more closely at that aspect of it, because I think some doubt has been thrown up with respect to some of the identities.

01:47:35.000 But I think...

01:47:37.000 But when we're talking about the acoustics, when you have the head of the National Forensics Association and others, this is open and shut.

01:47:45.000 Yeah, I think that that's right.

01:47:47.000 I don't think there's any question about that.

01:47:49.000 But we're going to have to go through, Alex, the bureaucracy of the judicial system in the state of California, which is going to try to block us on technicalities.

01:47:58.000 They're never going to deal with the merits of this case.

01:48:02.000 They're going to try to stop us on the basis of timeliness, statute of limitations issues, you know, the usual kind of technical opposition that, when you don't want anything to come forward on the merits, you put all these technical issues up in front.

01:48:24.000 And, unfortunately, a number of the members of the bench out there We're prosecutors in that office at the time.

01:48:31.000 Well, as you said, we have the coroner, one of the top in the country, saying he was shot repeatedly in the back of the head.

01:48:37.000 So we know that's a lie.

01:48:39.000 Well, we know the guy, Mr. Caesar was a known spook behind him.

01:48:44.000 You know, it's important.

01:48:45.000 People say this is 30 years ago, 40 years ago, 45 years ago.

01:48:49.000 People are saying, why does this stuff matter?

01:48:51.000 It matters because the same Even as Bruce Willis finally woke up seeing some of my films when Rick Linklater gave them to him a few years ago, he said, oh my God, the people that killed Kennedy are in control now.

01:49:01.000 He even said that then in Vanity Fair after we broke it before he went public.

01:49:06.000 So, I mean, even if somebody like Bruce Willis can wake up, the general public should be able to wake up.

01:49:12.000 But you've been around a lot of these elitists, a lot of these big power brokers in your life, and talked to folks that have also been around them.

01:49:17.000 What is the mindset of the type of people that will stage terror attacks in the U.S.

01:49:22.000 to blame it on enemies and launch wars, who will kill presidents, who will kill people running for president?

01:49:28.000 I mean, what is their mindset?

01:49:30.000 I mean, obviously it's money and power and control, but what really drives them at the end of the day?

01:49:36.000 I think at the end of the day, they are driven by the things you mentioned.

01:49:41.000 They're driven by money and they're driven by power.

01:49:44.000 They are, in many ways, the agents of a corporate industrial military complex that dominates public and increasingly private life in this country.

01:49:56.000 And they get rewarded when they perform in a compatible way as public servants.

01:50:03.000 They often end up on the boards of directors of many of these situations.

01:50:08.000 You know, I mean, former head of American Express indicated that 5,000 people run this republic.

01:50:14.000 And he said, you know, they meet at a place called the Bohemian Grove.

01:50:23.000 And they usually sidle up there about once a year.

01:50:27.000 And they make...critical decisions are made up at the Bohemian Grove by representatives of these people.

01:50:33.000 Yeah, that's Superclass.

01:50:34.000 We interviewed him, and I've snuck into Bohemian Grove.

01:50:37.000 It's going on right now.

01:50:38.000 Stay there.

01:50:38.000 We're going to talk behind the scenes with Mr. Pepper about the Superclass.

01:50:42.000 They run it.

01:50:43.000 They could care less about you.

01:50:44.000 They're turning the country into a prison for you so they can carry out their criminal activities untouched.

01:50:50.000 Stay with us.

01:50:50.000 William Pepper's our guest.

01:50:51.000 William Pepper's our guest.

01:51:06.000 Yeah, well I think they basically dominate public life in this country, and every aspect of it, and every major corporation and financial institution is dominated by them.

01:51:22.000 You know, when Jack Kennedy came into power, There had been developed before he came in a plan for the invasion of Cuba.

01:51:34.000 And that plan was a false flag operation that was to involve alleged Cubans in committing terrorist acts on American soil to justify the invasion of Cuba. 0.97

01:51:52.000 When that plan was put on Kennedy's desk, he said, Oh my God, these guys are nuts! 0.89

01:51:58.000 The name of that plan was called Northwoods. 0.63

01:52:01.000 And it's now well known.

01:52:03.000 People have written about it.

01:52:05.000 Let me stop you and just interject a question.

01:52:07.000 I want you to get into Northwoods, Mr. Pepper.

01:52:09.000 I saw one little frontline blurb before it was even declassified about him being upset about invasion plans that had provocations.

01:52:16.000 Then years later in 2000, Northwoods ABC, Baltimore Sun, as you know, come out with it.

01:52:23.000 But it looks from history, and you know more about it than I, that Kennedy was kind of a hawk, and believed in mom and apple pie, and kind of naive in a way, you know, super patriot, PT boat and the whole nine yards, and that now I've had others like yourself say that when they brought in this plan to stage terror attacks to him, that's when he said, I'm tearing up the CIA, we're getting out of Vietnam, and you guys are fired.

01:52:44.000 Well, he was very naive.

01:52:47.000 You know, Jack Kennedy in many ways was an adolescent right straight into the presidency.

01:52:53.000 He was bright, he was well-intentioned, but he was naive.

01:52:57.000 And he couldn't believe that some of these things that were being proposed to him.

01:53:03.000 And of course the Bay of Pigs, which he eventually was saddled with and had misgivings about, but nevertheless let go forward to a point.

01:53:13.000 Which taught him a great lesson, and that's when he fired Dulles from the CIA.

01:53:18.000 But the interesting thing, Alex, about the Northwoods plan, that was one of the first, I think, confrontations that he had with Lemnitzer, who was the admiral who drew it up.

01:53:29.000 And what I learned fairly recently is that the name of the golf course Where the chaps at the Bohemian Grove play.

01:53:39.000 It's a nine-hole golf course.

01:53:41.000 They all play there.

01:53:43.000 Northwoods.

01:53:43.000 It's called Northwoods.

01:53:47.000 And they brag that they cooked up the Manhattan Project, Star Wars, all of it, at the Grove at the Chalet, which our hidden cameras have infiltrated.

01:53:56.000 Is that right?

01:53:57.000 Oh yeah, I'll send you my film.

01:53:59.000 I've actually made two films on that.

01:54:00.000 that.

01:54:01.000 We're going back to the main audience right now.

01:54:02.000 Right.

01:54:03.000 You could spend 50 hours with William Peppers.

01:54:11.000 He has knowledge about every facet.

01:54:14.000 In fact, he has knowledge about all the things we cover here, and then he'll always have a little more for you.

01:54:18.000 And he was just pointing out that Operation Northwoods has the same name as where they hatch all this stuff, the golf course outside Bohemian Grove, where they pick up their male and female prostitutes as well. 0.78

01:54:27.000 And I've been there and seen it with my own two eyeballs. 0.77

01:54:29.000 It's in the order of death.

01:54:31.000 And my second film about Bohemian Grove.

01:54:34.000 And they put the guy in prison who snuck in to get that footage for us.

01:54:36.000 I snuck in and have only gotten death threats in 2000.

01:54:40.000 They just arrested the editor of Vanity Fair, tried to infiltrate.

01:54:43.000 No doubt they had moles inside Vanity Fair that... 0.99

01:54:47.000 See, the force is with us, folks.

01:54:49.000 That's why we're able to do this, and I thank God every day I'm still alive.

01:54:52.000 The force is not with most of these other people.

01:54:55.000 Sir, in closing, talk about your book.

01:54:57.000 We've got five minutes.

01:54:58.000 Anything else you want to add, Mr. Pepper?

01:55:00.000 And then I want to get you back on in the near future to talk about some of your other amazing experiences.

01:55:04.000 Well, I mean, ActiveState is out as the paperback.

01:55:11.000 I am representing Sirhan.

01:55:13.000 We're pushing forward with that.

01:55:15.000 I've also agreed to represent some victims of 9-11 in another lawsuit that I'm developing.

01:55:22.000 That is a very sensitive lawsuit because it relates to the whole funding background and funding of 9-11.

01:55:28.000 So that's going forward.

01:55:30.000 These things, unfortunately Alex, cost a great deal of money and I'm having to try to earn funds out of regular legal, corporate, other international legal work that I do to try to pay for it all.

01:55:42.000 So it's not a very It's not very easy to do that.

01:55:47.000 The main book that I have virtually completed now is the book on Hugo Chavez-Frias, the President of Venezuela, who has been, of course, the thwarted side of the Americans and their efforts.

01:55:59.000 Oh! 0.60

01:55:59.000 I meant to get into that with you last time you were on. 0.60

01:56:02.000 We've got to set you up to come on and talk about, you know him well, the real Hugo Chavez, because that is obviously so important to what's happening geopolitically.

01:56:10.000 And that leads me to my final question for you.

01:56:13.000 Do you get death threats and people ask, well, why is William Peppersill alive if he's done all of this?

01:56:18.000 I would venture to say they don't want to make you a martyr.

01:56:20.000 They don't want to put an exclamation point behind everything you've said and done.

01:56:24.000 They don't want to highlight the work because you've already done your body of work and continue to do it.

01:56:30.000 It won't help them to kill you.

01:56:32.000 I mean, is that correct?

01:56:34.000 That's right.

01:56:35.000 I think that's right.

01:56:36.000 I think they should have hit me early on in the King work.

01:56:41.000 And that no one would probably have noticed and that would have been the end of it.

01:56:46.000 But when the King family got involved and they became really a part of the work that I was doing and in support of it, then it became very difficult for them at that point in time.

01:56:59.000 And since then, I think they believe if they can just shut things down, whether it's a 9-11 work that I've encouraged or Or my support of Chavez, back and forth from Venezuela, and the Sirhan case.

01:57:15.000 If they could shut them down and use any other means, they'd try to do that rather than kill.

01:57:21.000 The question is, yes, they're death threats all the time, but they're not... I don't take them as being serious.

01:57:28.000 I think in many ways, if they could let people like me and people like you go about the business of dissent in a controlled way, So that we're not really impacting on... It creates the illusion of liberty and then they say, oh see, they're just nuts! 0.98

01:57:46.000 That's exactly what it is.

01:57:49.000 It's only when you start to get very close to the bone, the way Martin King and Bob Kennedy were, that they take you out.

01:57:57.000 They were trying to get control through the electoral process of the main executive mechanism.

01:58:02.000 Yes, that's right.

01:58:03.000 They were approaching the levers of control.

01:58:06.000 That's right, and that's where they took them out.

01:58:08.000 Whereas we're just down here trying to wake up the sheep who are happily chewing their cud.

01:58:14.000 William Pepper, fire out websites people can visit.

01:58:18.000 I'm sorry?

01:58:19.000 Fire out your websites.

01:58:20.000 Give us your websites.

01:58:21.000 Well, I don't personally have one.

01:58:22.000 I've never had one, but somebody, one of the readers has organized a website called ActiveState.org, and so that's the name of the second book, so there is a website there.

01:58:34.000 ActiveState.org.

01:58:35.000 Tell you what, stay there.

01:58:36.000 Back in one minute for two more minutes.

01:58:40.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:58:42.000 Let me talk to Pepper.

01:58:43.000 Be sure to visit GCN.

01:58:45.000 ...chewing their cud.

01:58:46.000 William Pepper, fire out websites people can visit.

01:58:50.000 I'm sorry?

01:58:51.000 Fire out your websites.

01:58:52.000 Give us your websites.

01:58:53.000 Well, I don't personally have one.

01:58:55.000 I've never had one, but somebody, one of the readers has organized a website called ActiveState.org, and so that's the name of the second book, so there is a website there.

01:59:06.000 ActiveState.org.

01:59:07.000 Tell you what, stay there.

01:59:08.000 Back in one minute for two more minutes.

01:59:12.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

01:59:15.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

01:59:18.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

01:59:23.000 I've come with a message of information.

01:59:25.000 9-11 was an inside job.

01:59:28.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

01:59:29.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

01:59:31.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

01:59:34.000 was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C4R.

01:59:38.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

01:59:47.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

01:59:52.000 It's not government!

01:59:53.000 An inside job?

01:59:56.000 How dare you?

01:59:58.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

02:00:03.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

02:00:06.000 And if the government has not told the truth in five years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of... Truth Rises.

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02:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:21.000 Political prisoner Mark Kornke joining us in the next segment for his weekly visit with us.

02:00:26.000 Dennis Kucinich moving forward with impeachment articles in front of the judiciary.

02:00:31.000 Does join us in the last 20 minutes of the show today.

02:00:33.000 That is confirmed.

02:00:34.000 I'm having to cut back St.

02:00:35.000 John Hunt's time next hour, but I'll have him back on for part two next week.

02:00:39.000 Totally jam-packed.

02:00:40.000 Finishing up with William Pepper, author, researcher, exposed the murder, assassination of Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and of course 9-11 being an inside job.

02:00:52.000 And we've got him for about three more minutes.

02:00:54.000 We're going to get him back up in the next few weeks to get more into actually prosecuting the criminals.

02:00:59.000 We're trying to do that through the Congress.

02:01:01.000 He was bringing up some other way to do it.

02:01:05.000 Very dangerous work he's involved in.

02:01:07.000 Ron Paul's plane just depressurized yesterday night.

02:01:10.000 Very dangerous.

02:01:12.000 Good chance it was an attempted assassination.

02:01:14.000 There were seven congressmen on board.

02:01:15.000 We'll talk about that with Mark Cornkey coming up.

02:01:18.000 Folks, we're in the danger zone right now.

02:01:20.000 Make no mistake.

02:01:22.000 But going back, Mr. Pepper, we've got about three and a half minutes finishing up your statements.

02:01:27.000 Okay, well, we could discuss the whole Chávez phenomenon and that movement, the Bolivarian movement, at length another time.

02:01:35.000 That takes a lot more time.

02:01:37.000 The prosecution of the war criminals in Washington, I think, is essential. 0.99

02:01:42.000 Vince Bugliosi, of course, has come out with a book now advocating the prosecution of George Bush for murder, and he builds a case for a murder prosecution inside the United States Based upon the fact that over 4,000 soldiers have died on the basis of false pretenses and lies, and were sent to their deaths.

02:02:02.000 He's talked about a domestic prosecution.

02:02:05.000 I'm, uh, and certainly that should go forward.

02:02:08.000 My interest would be more in a prosecution of international criminal law with respect to the number one crime, the war of aggression.

02:02:17.000 Secondly, crimes against humanity and contravention of the torture statutes and the torture convention.

02:02:24.000 That's all feasible.

02:02:25.000 It involves more than Bush.

02:02:27.000 It involves about 15 to 20 people in that administration, all of whom played a role.

02:02:33.000 And there is a research team now, both in England and Oxford, where I've been involved in, and over here, that are developing a bill of indictment for that purpose.

02:02:44.000 Now, it may be futile to submit that to the new Attorney General next year.

02:02:54.000 Because that will probably, that prosecution will probably never happen in the United States.

02:02:58.000 But that has to be done procedurally before any foreign prosecution can commence.

02:03:04.000 And that's what I think will probably happen, that there will be foreign prosecutions of these people eventually.

02:03:11.000 Well, I believe the prosecution should be done right here in the Republic, but if it's totally controlled and the Congress is cowed through threats, intimidation, and collusion, I think to internationally display the crimes to then trigger prosecution here is the avenue to go, plus the international order Let me tell you Alex, I know a few foreign judges, magistrates and foreign judges who were chafing at the bit to actually undertake the prosecution of these people.

02:03:36.000 and to hamstring the New World Order and kind of use its own mechanisms against itself is a good thing.

02:03:42.000 Let me tell you, Alex, I know a few foreign judges, magistrates and foreign judges, who were chafing at the bit to actually undertake the prosecution of these people.

02:03:54.000 They're ready to go now.

02:03:57.000 That's how much anger there is over what this crowd has done throughout the world.

02:04:03.000 Well there's even a lot of elites that know this is reckless, this is Hitlerian, and it's endangering the whole planet, and everything is spiraling into a black abyss. 0.90

02:04:12.000 William Pepper, thank you so much for spending time with us.

02:04:16.000 You're welcome.

02:04:16.000 Good to be with you.

02:04:17.000 You bet.

02:04:17.000 An amazing hour-long interview.

02:04:19.000 Folks, we had Willie Nelson on today.

02:04:20.000 That's why I cut 30 minutes of Mark's time, which he's gracious to give us an hour and a half.

02:04:24.000 He's cut down to an hour.

02:04:25.000 Because I wanted to call Willie up and have him on tomorrow or the next day about the impeachment hearing.

02:04:29.000 He said, let's do it today.

02:04:31.000 And then he announced, hey, caller called in, and I talked him off air.

02:04:36.000 He wants me to spearhead a truth conference slash anti-war huge concert.

02:04:41.000 This is totally wild.

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02:08:13.000 Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we are in the danger zone.

02:08:20.000 Make no mistake, my friends.

02:08:25.000 They've killed a lot of us.

02:08:26.000 They've falsely imprisoned more of us.

02:08:30.000 Like Mark Kornke, seven years behind the wire for doing nothing.

02:08:35.000 But being run off the road by police.

02:08:40.000 Trying to get his sons out of the car so they couldn't kill him.

02:08:46.000 as they'd sworn to do further on the edge ladies and gentlemen greater the intensity I think you just heard the berth earlier of, uh, you know how Big Pharmaid isn't really announced?

02:09:05.000 And he just said, in and around Pharmaid, he will do a huge concert for 9-11 Truth.

02:09:12.000 That is definitely punching into overdrive.

02:09:15.000 That will get a lot of attention.

02:09:21.000 You can laugh at this cheesy 80s song, but it says it all.

02:09:24.000 You don't know what you can do until you go ahead and go out on the edge.

02:09:27.000 And those who haven't been out on the edge don't know what the edge is.

02:09:32.000 But to all of you who've stood up for liberty and freedom going back thousands of years, the only reason we have any liberty or freedom is because of those men and women.

02:09:40.000 I salute you!

02:09:42.000 And I salute those who have the spirit of 1776 in them today who are out there on the danger zone.

02:09:53.000 And the rest of this song is for you, then we go to Mark Cornking.

02:09:56.000 Further on the edge, hotter the intensity.

02:10:03.000 Highway to the danger zone.

02:10:08.000 Gonna take it right into the danger zone.

02:10:13.000 Highway to the danger zone.

02:10:19.000 Right into the danger zone.

02:10:26.000 Yeah, David Rockefeller doesn't like the danger zone.

02:10:36.000 I'm away.

02:10:37.000 He wants to put us in the danger zone.

02:10:39.000 We're going to put him in the danger zone.

02:10:41.000 Having a lot of fun here today.

02:10:49.000 Oh.

02:10:52.000 Alright, I'm very excited about what's happening because we are really taking a lot of enemy fire.

02:10:56.000 That means we're having an effect.

02:10:57.000 But flight carrying Ron Paul, seven congressmen total.

02:11:01.000 Continental flight.

02:11:02.000 They rarely depressurize.

02:11:04.000 Massive, total depressurization.

02:11:07.000 They had to do an emergency landing. 0.98

02:11:09.000 This is one of their favorite ways to kill people.

02:11:10.000 Don't think for a minute this is an accident.

02:11:12.000 There's been all sorts of threats.

02:11:14.000 Ron Paul went before the House last week and said they're getting ready for martial law in World War III.

02:11:19.000 They know he's one of the main leaders.

02:11:21.000 They've been threatening Denis Kucinich, threatening anybody that tries to stand in their way.

02:11:26.000 Folks, we are going into the danger zone.

02:11:27.000 The attack on Iran, martial law, all of it. 0.90

02:11:30.000 That's why we've been having Mark Corky on each week.

02:11:32.000 Mark, I really appreciate you coming on.

02:11:34.000 Well, thank you very much, Alex.

02:11:36.000 And again, there are no accidents, technology like that especially.

02:11:39.000 You've got to remember, with the level of redundancy in the work that's done, Uh, my question would be, with depressurization failure of the aircraft, hey, did they scramble two fighters the way they're supposed to to check on the plane?

02:11:52.000 Well, they're just reporting it was a very serious total depressurization.

02:11:58.000 Oxygen mass came down.

02:12:00.000 And again, it was one of those things, just like with Payne Stewart, where it just suddenly came on.

02:12:06.000 People started getting dizzy, and thank God they got a plane down.

02:12:08.000 That's one of their favorite ways.

02:12:10.000 They killed some of Bush's pilots a few years ago.

02:12:12.000 Bush Sr.

02:12:13.000 coming in with a depressurization, hitting the light pole.

02:12:16.000 They've killed a lot of other people that way.

02:12:18.000 I mean, this is not a coincidence, Mark.

02:12:20.000 There's just no way.

02:12:21.000 Right, an interesting thing.

02:12:22.000 The reason I was kind of being facetious there is remember any other time the FAA has had an incident like this or a transponder failure?

02:12:29.000 600 times a year, fighter aircraft that are owned by the trillion dollar Air Force of the United States, multi-trillion dollar Air Force, go up and inspect or assist in whatever way they can to observe the aircraft to see if there's injury or damage.

02:12:45.000 And to help the pilots out by being able to instruct them.

02:12:48.000 My curious question is here, they never did that once during 9-11, we know the story there.

02:12:53.000 But in a situation like this, it would be policy and precautionary.

02:12:58.000 And it was contrary to such when they failed to launch any aircraft in 9-11.

02:13:04.000 In this situation, this would be normal, this would be standard operating procedure, to have a couple of planes lift off the air.

02:13:11.000 And since we're in this war of terrorism, and a war of terror where we now don't care about Osama Bin Laden, we don't protect the borders of America, we aren't securing the country at all other than cavity-searching Graham at the airport for plastic bottles of cosmetics.

02:13:27.000 Woo-hoo, that's protecting the country.

02:13:29.000 Meanwhile, are we maintaining this standard with the Air Force on standby and ready to go?

02:13:35.000 I'd be curious about that.

02:13:36.000 Well, Mark, no, they didn't launch aircraft.

02:13:38.000 To answer your question, I have about four reports here in front of me.

02:13:42.000 No, five reports here in front of me.

02:13:43.000 But this is what happened.

02:13:45.000 Ron Paul was about to really slam the FAA for all sorts of payoffs and corruption.

02:13:51.000 He'd already been speaking of that.

02:13:52.000 He's scheduled to be on tomorrow due to this freakout.

02:13:55.000 Who knows?

02:13:56.000 But they were going to a committee meeting Today, dealing with it, and he was going to be leading with those other six congressmen a fight to expose the corruption.

02:14:08.000 That is actually in the KHOU Channel 11 out of Houston TV report.

02:14:13.000 I mean, he's going to criticize the airlines and billions of dollars in cheating they're involved in, and his plane depressurizes.

02:14:21.000 My God, he better make sure that he stays on course, and pardon the pun on that, but you know what I mean?

02:14:26.000 Stay on flight, stay on target, you're taking flak, that means you're hitting the proper target.

02:14:31.000 When you know you're over the target, when you can feel the plane bucking from the air defense fire, you know what I mean?

02:14:38.000 So for everybody out there listening, the best thing we can do right now is to everybody, everybody out there listening, no matter where you are, We need to give Ron Paul's office a support.

02:14:49.000 You know, call in one form or another.

02:14:50.000 Send him an email.

02:14:52.000 Stay on course, Ron.

02:14:52.000 Example.

02:14:54.000 You hit the right target, obviously.

02:14:55.000 It's time to dump the payload, okay?

02:14:57.000 I would call the White House and tell them to don't do it.

02:15:00.000 That's a very bad idea.

02:15:02.000 Well, the other thing I would say is this.

02:15:03.000 Now, and this is something that we had as a policy.

02:15:06.000 I've flown millions of miles, of course under a dozen hundred.

02:15:09.000 Actually, your listeners know because they helped with this.

02:15:12.000 Under virtually thousands of names, okay, back in the day.

02:15:17.000 And because of this, we were able to speak to millions and millions and millions of people, and travel to 48 of the 50 states, pretty much with impunity.

02:15:25.000 And we got the message out and around, but there was a given point where people said, well, you can't fly anymore.

02:15:29.000 Well, we understood the risk of that, but we continued anyway, and progressively, there were more and more restrictions and things, of course, were thrown in there to try and stumble things up.

02:15:40.000 But there is a point, and I would say this of most any candidate like Ron Paul, where flying is not an option.

02:15:47.000 And I would say this of many people right now, flying is not an option.

02:15:51.000 It may take us a little bit longer.

02:15:53.000 The key word is a little bit longer.

02:15:55.000 But for any of our key personnel, anybody out there listening, all of you people that are friends or allies of those individuals, We're going to need drivers.

02:16:04.000 We're going to need security.

02:16:05.000 Well, I had a gut feeling.

02:16:06.000 You know, Willie doesn't fly anymore.

02:16:07.000 He drives in a bus, and I have a bad feeling.

02:16:10.000 I, of course, am going to be driving to the Denver Convention, even though that's going to take about a day and a half, two days, just because I'm going to really, especially with these body scanners, with your scanning your naked body, I mean, just everything is going to hell in a handbasket.

02:16:24.000 And I think this was divine intervention, because a lot of times when they have these depressurizations, Well, let's focus again on making sure we give the right support where it's needed.

02:16:32.000 And again, everybody out there listening can do a little bit.

02:16:35.000 just so bad.

02:16:36.000 Or it may have just been a warning, but I tell you, he gives a speech last week saying they're getting ready to drop the hammer.

02:16:42.000 He's going in to expose the FAA and the airlines, and then they depressurize the aircraft.

02:16:46.000 I mean, this is getting bad.

02:16:48.000 Well, let's focus again on making sure we give the right support where it's needed.

02:16:52.000 And again, everybody out there listening can do a little bit.

02:16:55.000 Pick up the phone, say hi.

02:16:56.000 Hopefully everybody's okay.

02:16:58.000 And by the way, stick to the course.

02:17:01.000 We'll help you in any way that we can.

02:17:02.000 Well, we're going to have Ron Paul on tomorrow, and I guess flooding their lines is fine, maybe even with a political donation or something when we call, but the main thing is I think letting the enemy know that we are fully aware of their activities.

02:17:14.000 And Mark, do you have any doubt that this wasn't either a message or an attempted murder, and that I think divine intervention was involved?

02:17:21.000 Well, I think more or less it was probably something that was intentionally engineered.

02:17:24.000 I mean, number one, the problem is, uh, we've always argued this is why aircraft are dangerous, is because, uh, like the Kennedy, young Kennedy, when he was assassinated, uh, in his personal aircraft, the pilot is not watching the plane 24 hours a day.

02:17:39.000 The crew and the pilot may have no clue what's going to happen.

02:17:43.000 On the other hand, in some cases, the pilots are even flat out told, well, either cooperate with this situation or You know, it's the old mafia routine.

02:17:52.000 They did this when they got rid of Terrigios in Panama.

02:17:55.000 The pilot was basically told, I mean this is one of the rules in Central America, either, you know, go down with the plane, or they wipe out their family, the cat, the dog, and everybody else.

02:18:05.000 Yeah, what they do is they send you photos of your children playing in the backyard, and they say, I'm going to rape this one for weeks before I slit their throat, and I've had them threaten my children, I know they've threatened your children, and you know what? 1.00

02:18:16.000 We're just committed, you bastard scumbags! 1.00

02:18:18.000 We know you're murdering trash, and you're going to be defeated! 1.00

02:18:21.000 And we're gonna hunt them down and do to well, let's put it this way, we're not going to lower ourselves to their standard, but we're going to do to them what needs to be done to properly incarcerate, to try, and to bring to light. 0.98

02:18:33.000 This is the one thing they're terrified of, is they've always thought they've always, they operate complete shadows.

02:18:38.000 They don't.

02:18:38.000 We're gonna switch all the lights on and the cockroaches will have no place to run.

02:18:43.000 That's what they're terrified of.

02:18:44.000 We must look at them and tell them that we see them for what they are.

02:18:49.000 That's the most critical aspect of everything we're doing right now.

02:18:52.000 Look at them and just, they quail, they shudder, they are terrified.

02:18:56.000 When you don't look at them with fear, but you look at them with disgust because you know what they've done and who they are. 0.98

02:19:01.000 Yeah, I've done this to politicians at events and they start freaking out, sweating, because they're cowards. 1.00

02:19:07.000 They love murdering children, bombing women. 1.00

02:19:09.000 These are literal demons from the crack of hell. 1.00

02:19:14.000 And they're not going away until we defeat them.

02:19:16.000 That's what people don't understand.

02:19:17.000 They don't have a choice, do they, Mark?

02:19:18.000 This isn't gonna stop.

02:19:19.000 They're not going away. 0.99

02:19:21.000 They want a big, bloody meal off of us. 0.95

02:19:23.000 And we just can't let them do it. 0.98

02:19:25.000 With minimal cost.

02:19:26.000 Remember, that's the whole idea.

02:19:27.000 Remember, they throw you in the cattle chute, run you down the chute, give you a mouthful of grain, and... Oh, man, it's pretty good.

02:19:33.000 Pretty tasty.

02:19:33.000 It's wheat.

02:19:34.000 Nom, nom, nom.

02:19:34.000 Hey!

02:19:35.000 We're moving forward.

02:19:38.000 Hey, we're moving forward.

02:19:39.000 Hey, what's a guy with a gun to... Oh.

02:19:41.000 Too late.

02:19:43.000 That's what they'd like to see happen.

02:19:44.000 We're not going to.

02:19:45.000 That's why you need to be organized in the physical world.

02:19:48.000 That's why the militia must be in place.

02:19:50.000 It's part of the checks and balances.

02:19:51.000 Because you don't have a choice when they're taking you to a FEMA camp.

02:19:54.000 You don't have a choice.

02:19:55.000 We're not looking for war.

02:19:56.000 They take first blood.

02:19:57.000 That's it.

02:19:58.000 We're going to keep talking behind the scenes right now, Mark.

02:19:59.000 We just wanted a break.

02:20:01.000 Please continue, Mark, because I want to... You know what?

02:20:05.000 You've got the floor the next 40 minutes.

02:20:06.000 Anything you want to cover, go ahead and hit it.

02:20:09.000 Right, well the big thing right now is organization at the tactical level needs to be expanded on dramatically.

02:20:14.000 We're a lot of militias are seeing a massive influx right now.

02:20:18.000 For those people that are listening, they know that I'm going to say this.

02:20:21.000 I told you so because it's expected.

02:20:23.000 It's just a natural cycle.

02:20:25.000 One of the most important things that people can do to accelerate the process of bringing up the proficiency and the expertise of those people coming in is standard operating procedure.

02:20:35.000 Now this means, first of all, knowing to train the individual and how to accelerate his or her program.

02:20:42.000 Knowing how to organize the five-man fire team.

02:20:45.000 Knowing how to organize the squad.

02:20:46.000 These are the three basic building blocks of any army.

02:20:50.000 I don't care what part of the planet.

02:20:51.000 I don't care how big or small.

02:20:53.000 If those three components are engineered properly, they can be re-juggled around.

02:20:59.000 They can be restructured as needed.

02:21:01.000 But the force strength will be in place where it's needed, when it's needed.

02:21:06.000 A concept of this goes back even well before Korea, but it was called the Regimental Combat Team Complex, or concept.

02:21:14.000 And what they did is basically were able to, if everything had been trained properly, take many different units, reorganize them accordingly, put them where they needed to be, bring them back out of the action, reorganize and structure them for the next issue that might need to be dealt with.

02:21:29.000 The fire team and the squad, plus the effective training of the individual, is what accomplishes this.

02:21:35.000 And that's what the other side is terrified of.

02:21:37.000 Training is everything.

02:21:39.000 Repetition, so it becomes second nature.

02:21:41.000 It doesn't become something I have to think about.

02:21:44.000 If somebody gets hit, first aid training is designed so that it takes and goes into operation immediately.

02:21:51.000 Weapons procedure, how to use a weapon, how to safely operate the weapon, isn't something you think about later.

02:21:58.000 It is drilled in as operational procedure and it means that everybody out there needs to train.

02:22:04.000 They need to train.

02:22:05.000 Oh, and did I mention another word?

02:22:07.000 They need to train.

02:22:09.000 That's what the other side is terrified of.

02:22:11.000 Mark, let me throw a caveat here in.

02:22:13.000 What about the general public just having plans of evacuation if need be, where they're going to go, having friends, having food, having water, having the firearms, making sure they're in operation, just basic stuff, even below, you know, militia.

02:22:27.000 Even that is part of the, yeah, even that is militia preparation.

02:22:31.000 They just don't, most people don't realize the M word's attached.

02:22:33.000 And people need to ask themselves, Now, what do you do if they got a truck grabbing certain people at certain houses?

02:22:39.000 What is your battle plan?

02:22:41.000 Obviously, try to get away, try to not have a confrontation, but do not go to the death camp.

02:22:46.000 Well, I think here's an old question we asked all through the 90s, which is why we held our ground effectively.

02:22:51.000 You know, people always ask, what are they going to do when they come to my door?

02:22:55.000 Well, the question is not that.

02:22:56.000 It's, what are you going to do when they come to your neighbor's door first?

02:23:00.000 We have to be prepared to work together and to stand together.

02:23:04.000 The most common mistake made is, and of course now people would say, well, I don't know my neighbor.

02:23:09.000 Well, maybe you do need to find out more about your neighbor.

02:23:11.000 Now, if you don't think your neighbor's that trustworthy, but you've got a lot of other people that you're going to be evacuating to, then obviously you need to DD the AO, as they say, get out of the area of operation as quickly as possible.

02:23:22.000 Best still is, as the indicators are in place, we leave before it happens.

02:23:27.000 Yeah, let's talk about signs, because you will see this, you will see the propaganda in the days before preparing, you'll probably see a trigger event.

02:23:36.000 Well, example, we just had down in your neck of the woods, Igor talking about his Red Brigades.

02:23:43.000 No, I'm not, sorry.

02:23:45.000 Wait a minute, let's write his eco-police, his spies everywhere.

02:23:49.000 You know, they keep re-engineering the name, but the bottom line is they need this massive wall of rodents.

02:23:55.000 Okay, start it over, start it over.

02:23:56.000 We'll go back to the main transmission.

02:23:58.000 Get back to Al Gore down here with their million man, oh, ten million, excuse me, the secret police are one million, so that's eleven million.

02:24:06.000 Let's get into the new brigades.

02:24:08.000 Let's cover it right now.

02:24:12.000 Mark Kornke is our guest.

02:24:14.000 He's going to tell you how to get the most up-to-date militia manuals, training videos, preparation.

02:24:18.000 Most of it's free on YouTube and Google.

02:24:20.000 He's got links to that as well.

02:24:22.000 We do not want war, ladies and gentlemen.

02:24:24.000 We want peace.

02:24:26.000 But we will not go to death camps.

02:24:27.000 We will not have foreign troops and felons rape our families. 1.00

02:24:31.000 We will defend the republic 110%.

02:24:34.000 We are trying every avenue, as the founders did, to peacefully Energize the public, the military, and police to join the Republic and realize they have been overtaken and brainwashed by the New World Order crime syndicate, but we will defend ourselves.

02:24:47.000 Mark Kornke.

02:24:48.000 So interestingly enough, we've got Igor right down there in your neck of the woods talking about this, these new Red Brigades, the new spies, the eco-freaks, the eco-police.

02:24:58.000 Now, I'm a conservationist, and I understand full well preservation of life.

02:25:02.000 And I love the planet, but there's a basic rule here that these characters are just another re-engineered version of all the rest of the nonsense they keep proposing.

02:25:10.000 A national police force, a national spy network, rodents everywhere watching over everybody else.

02:25:17.000 Real quick, for part of your reading assignment, find the book, The Fabian Freeway.

02:25:22.000 The Fabian Freeway.

02:25:24.000 We are dealing with Fabian the Socialist, the hardcore element of all of socialism.

02:25:30.000 Uh, they are at Oxford.

02:25:32.000 By the way, Oxford was mentioned at the end of the last hour, I will point out.

02:25:36.000 Uh, beware there, because Oxford is the core of Fabian Socialism and their agenda for world domination.

02:25:42.000 Literally world domination, they brag about it.

02:25:45.000 If you haven't seen George Orwell standing in front of the twelve, the picture of the twelve wise men, which is a stained glass at Oxford, and if you don't understand that those are the critters who were orchestrating global entities such as the League of Nations and fabricated World War I. Mark, I totally agree with you, and then they have the false left system as what we run to out of the staged fascist system.

02:26:07.000 In fairness to Pepper, though, some of the people that go through that system see the big picture and don't like it, and then turn against it, and I think he's one of them.

02:26:16.000 And try to move away, but the problem is, is the machine itself is, hopefully through osmosis, Like sticky, sticky material on a fly trap, try to pull you back in in one form so you don't get too far away.

02:26:28.000 And that's the dangerous part.

02:26:30.000 Remember, yeah, you can affect to a degree, but most important is we need to build new.

02:26:35.000 And this is true also with regard to even the multiple generations within the militia, the way it has developed over the years.

02:26:42.000 The militia was here before everything.

02:26:46.000 People go, oh, that's sacrilege!

02:26:48.000 Before the Marine Corps, before the Army, before the Founding Fathers, they are the Sons of Liberty.

02:26:53.000 They are the Corps.

02:26:55.000 They did it all.

02:26:56.000 In fact, interestingly enough, remember, the war didn't start until 1775.

02:27:01.000 The Declaration of Independence doesn't come around until 16 months later.

02:27:06.000 1776.

02:27:06.000 We are taught 1776, so we will ignore history.

02:27:10.000 The Sons of Liberty were around in 1760.

02:27:12.000 That's right.

02:27:14.000 They were, in fact, it was anticipated that the American Revolution would probably start around 1765 based upon the abuses and the train of abuses that preceded.

02:27:24.000 What took place is because of the money change and a number of other actions, the British were able to stall that off.

02:27:30.000 In other words, they appeased to a degree, and they realized, wait a minute, well, the stove's getting a little too hot, we don't want them to figure out what's going on, we're boiling the frog too fast.

02:27:39.000 So they backed off, but then a chain of abrupt abuses came into play to include the occupation, and in fact the forced housing and feeding of British troops on colonial soil, on American houses.

02:27:52.000 This is part of a long, progressive occupation.

02:27:55.000 And we're seeing a replay of all of it.

02:27:58.000 In 1775, the forces then tried to confiscate the arms.

02:28:01.000 They came out many times.

02:28:02.000 Paul Brewer didn't make his ride once.

02:28:04.000 He made his ride at least seven times, and you could count actually nine, depending on how you look at it.

02:28:09.000 In fact, they stopped him and wanted to arrest him, and they said, you're the guy.

02:28:13.000 Yeah, that was on April 18th, through to April 19th.

02:28:17.000 But before that, he had made the ride many times, and the militia had mobilized.

02:28:21.000 And the British forces had come out of Boston.

02:28:23.000 They were forced to retreat because the militia across the whole of the countryside was active.

02:28:28.000 Because the militia was the whole of the people.

02:28:31.000 And by the way, folks, you're not directed by any one individual or group.

02:28:35.000 It is a basic manifesto of liberty and freedom.

02:28:38.000 It is a code to where this is leaderless resistance.

02:28:41.000 It is unstoppable.

02:28:43.000 They're taking women and children to camps.

02:28:45.000 You defend them.

02:28:46.000 Period.

02:28:47.000 Everybody pitches in.

02:28:48.000 And this is one of the things where we said, what do you do when your neighbors attack?

02:28:52.000 Number one, if at all possible, you organize virtually so that you are working together.

02:28:57.000 When a foreign invader, and a foreign invader can be the federal forces askew, if an individual, if any kind of enforcement agency, is acting, and it is an obvious, apparent, you know, it'd be apparent beyond a shadow of a doubt... In a rogue fashion!

02:29:13.000 In a rogue fashion!

02:29:14.000 When they are acting, and they are violating, when you see them beating women, when you see them shooting people, Arbitrarily, which is one of the things that you are going to see.

02:29:23.000 This isn't going to be a kind of sort of.

02:29:25.000 I'll give you another example here real quick.

02:29:27.000 We had all the information.

02:29:28.000 I brought this up at American Peril 3.

02:29:31.000 I got attacked left and right for the torture issue.

02:29:34.000 We had all the documentation on what they were proposing for torture over 13 years ago.

02:29:40.000 Stay there, Mark.

02:29:41.000 Everybody's got to go to Infowars.com to hear the behind the scenes with Mark.

02:29:44.000 For everybody else, we'll be right back.

02:29:46.000 Thank you all for tuning in.

02:29:49.000 Mark, continue with the torture.

02:29:50.000 Yes, you covered torture when it was on all their manuals, being prepared as a form of terror.

02:29:55.000 People couldn't believe it now.

02:29:56.000 It's everywhere.

02:29:57.000 Tell us about it.

02:29:57.000 And not only that, it's right in your face.

02:29:59.000 So again, here's the thing is, we already knew because it came from military personnel, it came from law enforcement, it came from peace officers around the country who were becoming thoroughly disgusted with what they saw.

02:30:09.000 And this is just one example of where you go from behind the scenes, out of the shadows, and it creeps like a goo into the public eye.

02:30:19.000 The Founding Fathers warned everybody about this.

02:30:21.000 We had, for instance, and this is another thing people aren't thinking about this, but this is coming, Alex.

02:30:27.000 Writs of a tainter.

02:30:28.000 Writs of a tainter.

02:30:30.000 There shall be no writs of a tainter.

02:30:33.000 A writ of a tainter is where, if I can't get Alex, I grab his wife and his kids and his mom and his dad, and I dig up even his old relatives, and I torture or I abuse them.

02:30:44.000 They've been doing that in Iraq! 1.00

02:30:45.000 They advertise it, they torture your children until you come turn yourself in!

02:30:50.000 Exactly, and this is an indirect violation of the premise, the whole core and foundation of our process, the way we of the West would operate traditionally.

02:31:01.000 And the antithesis of our form of government and our psyche.

02:31:05.000 Well, it's pure evil.

02:31:06.000 I mean, whoever does that is the dark side, is the enemy.

02:31:11.000 Exactly.

02:31:11.000 And that's one of the things here that's interesting is that, again, for people who are wondering about that, get yourself a pocket Constitution.

02:31:17.000 You can get them from a number of different sources, witten printers, but citizens' rule books.

02:31:22.000 You will find a copy of the Constitution.

02:31:24.000 You will find in it that there shall be no writs of a tainter.

02:31:30.000 This is where, again, it's also the term was corruption of the blood.

02:31:33.000 In other words, even if Alex did something ten years ago, we're going to blame his sons, his daughters, his granddaughters, and everybody will be charged with the same crime.

02:31:43.000 They can't punish your family house for what you've individually done.

02:31:47.000 That's right.

02:31:48.000 And again, this is part of the whole concept of Western jurisprudence, developed in England, perfected in the United States, and brought forward.

02:31:57.000 That's right.

02:31:58.000 In fact, if you rebelled against the king, they would come and clap your whole family in irons.

02:32:02.000 But the Magna Carta, which was hard, that was paid for in blood, 1215 at Ronnymede said no.

02:32:09.000 Exactly, and tied into that is what happened here.

02:32:12.000 We fought a war for independence, which took us to the next step, scraping the table off and breaking all of the chains.

02:32:20.000 This is critical to the overall concept of American justice, in that all of the, well actually it's also critical to the enemy occupying and destroying our system.

02:32:28.000 And I want to point this out, Mark, we stand on the shoulders of the British people who did fight against that, and then now we stand on the shoulders of 1776.

02:32:36.000 It's all part of a continual stream.

02:32:39.000 We're all connected to each other, and I do want to point out that it was almost 50% in the Parliament against attacking the colonies, but the King came in and demanded that they vote for war.

02:32:49.000 So we all I also had friends in England.

02:32:51.000 There were people there who understood fully what was wrong about what was being done.

02:32:55.000 In fact, even... Let's go one step further.

02:32:56.000 Well, here we go, Mark.

02:32:57.000 Tell everybody about it right now.

02:32:58.000 Here we go.

02:33:03.000 Recap that, Mark, and then bring us up to where we are today.

02:33:03.000 Rich the Betayner.

02:33:08.000 You know, one of the most important things here.

02:33:10.000 Years ago, the king could take the whole family.

02:33:13.000 He could grab the wife, he could grab the kids, but he could grab the grandma and grandpa.

02:33:16.000 And when I said digging up bodies, that's not an exaggeration, people.

02:33:21.000 One of the things was desecration of graves.

02:33:24.000 Much in the same way that you would draw and quarter a person and take their body parts and put the skulls on the bridge of London.

02:33:32.000 On London Bridge, and then take the body parts and spread them all over the countryside?

02:33:35.000 They would do this also with family members' remains.

02:33:39.000 In fact, Cromwell had the king dug up and cut up, and then I believe he was dug up too, and beheaded.

02:33:46.000 And another example, remember, even for people who are wondering about this, even in the movie Braveheart, you see an example, remember, where he had to go?

02:33:54.000 They desecrated the graves of his brother and his father.

02:33:58.000 And so he went and dug up the grave of his wife and moved her body so she could not be desecrated by the enemy?

02:34:05.000 Think about that.

02:34:06.000 This is stuff that sounds so bizarre, but it is the nature of your enemy.

02:34:10.000 Well, Prima Noctu is also in there where they would demand, you know, with your virgin wife on the honeymoon, they would try to impregnate her, quote, breed them out, and then they would even pick people that were their, you know, unofficial sons and give them power to be go-betweens with the local slave class. 0.98

02:34:28.000 Exactly.

02:34:29.000 And again, people are going, well, that's back then, really?

02:34:32.000 There's a whole issue here, and we need to spend a couple of days on all the networks talking about the straw man, because the straw man is where Americans have been put back into bondage, and it's the admiralty law of our enemies who are the bar members, the British Accredited Registry.

02:34:51.000 The British Accredited Regency.

02:34:54.000 These creatures of the bar are loyalists who have come back in to re-bond, re-indenture the American people.

02:35:01.000 We are no different in the battlefield today as we were in 1775, and they are using the Declaration of Independence as a checklist to go step-by-step.

02:35:10.000 Now, real quick here.

02:35:12.000 We have a number of different manuals, and I want to make sure we get this out.

02:35:15.000 If you want to find out more information, you can go to PBN, P.O.

02:35:19.000 Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130.

02:35:24.000 Again, that's P-B-N. 1.00

02:35:27.000 P.O.

02:35:27.000 Box 194.

02:35:30.000 Dexter, that's D-E-X-T-E-R, Michigan, 48130.

02:35:34.000 And send us S-A-S-E if you want to, or, now here's a list, because I want to make sure I get this out, Alex, a couple times today.

02:35:43.000 Number one, we have PM 8-94.

02:35:46.000 How to start and train a militia unit.

02:35:50.000 This is a single PM manual, part of the several manuals that are the latest family going out all over the country to all of our new people.

02:35:57.000 And it's PM 8-94, How to Start and Train a Militia.

02:36:02.000 Cost is $5 plus 6 stamps.

02:36:05.000 Now you send 6 stamps, that's because postage varies all over the country.

02:36:09.000 It's a patchwork quilt.

02:36:10.000 Anyway, $5 plus 6 stamps.

02:36:13.000 Covers the cost, keeps the lights on, allows the printing presses to continue to run.

02:36:18.000 Number 2.

02:36:19.000 Is PM 10.

02:36:20.000 We're going to simplify this.

02:36:22.000 PM 10.

02:36:23.000 It's Militia Standard Operating Procedure, SOP.

02:36:27.000 Cost is $7 for this manual, plus six stamps in shipping.

02:36:34.000 Again, that's the Militia SOP.

02:36:36.000 It's PM 10.

02:36:38.000 That is $7 plus six regular stamps.

02:36:43.000 Now, you can send check or money order to Nancy, last name K-O-E-R-N-K-E, that's who the check or money order is made out to, Nancy, K-O-E-R-N-K-E, and the address is P-B-N, P.O.

02:36:58.000 Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130.

02:37:03.000 Now, this is part of a family of manuals and we will be sending updates on this The printer is doing an excellent job.

02:37:11.000 She has done some phenomenal work.

02:37:12.000 I'm very happy with it.

02:37:13.000 I'm going to point out that a lot of the artwork that you see has all been done by people in the Patriot effort.

02:37:20.000 Mark, tell folks about your new book, the first in the Battle of the Republic series.

02:37:24.000 There are three books that are out.

02:37:26.000 The one printer is having a heck of a time because the original went out to another printer out west.

02:37:31.000 But, uh, Battle for the Republic.

02:37:33.000 It's the second book series I've written.

02:37:36.000 The first is The Dagger Wars.

02:37:37.000 There are twelve books.

02:37:39.000 We've gone through three printings.

02:37:40.000 It's for militia command training.

02:37:42.000 Uh, we are going to publicly release this probably by the end of the year because it's been in private circulation for three years now.

02:37:49.000 That's The Dagger War.

02:37:51.000 It's twelve books.

02:37:52.000 Battle for the Republic begins where The Dagger War ends.

02:37:56.000 In Battle for the Republic, book one, The Dance of Swords.

02:38:00.000 Is basically the, how it starts.

02:38:02.000 The present book that is most recently imprinting is Battle for the Republic, The Winter War.

02:38:07.000 Uh, cost is $25.

02:38:09.000 These are signed copy editions.

02:38:12.000 Anybody who wants a copy, again, use the PBN, PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130 address.

02:38:23.000 And it's Battle for the Republic, the Winter War.

02:38:26.000 That printing, the latest one, is out right now.

02:38:28.000 We just got the latest boxes from the printer.

02:38:31.000 It's not just a storyline.

02:38:32.000 This is a how-to.

02:38:34.000 The objective, one of the reasons I want to do this is explain the psyche, explain the experience, try to give you a taste.

02:38:41.000 And I'm not going to ruin the read for you, but there's something I'll say about this when we come on the air some other time later, Alex.

02:38:46.000 I want more people to read it.

02:38:48.000 And we do want input.

02:38:49.000 I want people to respond.

02:38:51.000 Because I know that many thousands of this book are already out.

02:38:54.000 Battle for the Republic.

02:38:55.000 The Winter War.

02:38:57.000 It's $25.

02:38:58.000 If you're going to have it signed, the only thing I ask is print out the name you want it signed to so that I can read it so I can make sure I script it properly for you.

02:39:06.000 That's up to you.

02:39:07.000 You don't have to send a name and you don't have to have it signed.

02:39:10.000 Mark, before you leave us for the next 25 minutes or so, there's a few things.

02:39:14.000 My uncle last week, when you were on with us, he wanted to know, just in a nutshell, how you dealt with seven years of false incarceration and came out even stronger and more eloquent, not even near broken.

02:39:24.000 In fact, energized.

02:39:26.000 But before we do that, people misinterpret what I'm about to say, because they love to, but you understand it, you've dealt with it, you've lived it, so I want to bring this up to you.

02:39:35.000 I don't want to sit here and tell people, go join the militia, so that they go fall into the hands of feds trying to provoke the terror.

02:39:42.000 Here's an example.

02:39:43.000 We were talking about Israelis in the news yesterday.

02:39:46.000 I learned of it as it was ending.

02:39:50.000 We're here in town and they're taking hundreds of Austin cops back to brainwash them about how to set up a police state here.

02:39:57.000 We've got an Israeli intelligence running around killing people in Austin, there's no doubt of that. 0.99

02:40:02.000 I mean it's just open messages to everybody.

02:40:06.000 And Aaron goes, who just got out of UT two and a half years ago, he's been here ever since, he's like, oh my god, I remember when I was just part of an anti-war group, I come walking out on the street and this guy runs up and goes, I'm an Israeli, I'm anti-war, but don't think the government doesn't know who you are, let's attack George Bush.

02:40:22.000 And he just said, get the hell away from me, but then saw the guy at other meetings trying to stir stuff up. 0.98

02:40:27.000 Of course, I mean, they're trying to create fake groups or get idiots to go out and do something violent. 1.00

02:40:36.000 This is happening. 1.00

02:40:37.000 The question is how to organize.

02:40:38.000 Well, let me just stop you, Mark, because I want to put this out for people.

02:40:43.000 The BATF back in 1994 wanted to demonize, and of course Mark knows this for the audience, wanted to demonize militias.

02:40:49.000 So they went and found a methamphetamine cooking Hells Angels subgroup called the Vipers in Arizona. 1.00

02:40:57.000 Total idiots. 1.00

02:40:58.000 And the guy gave them hundreds of thousands of dollars in drugs and then he just said, let's just call ourselves a militia. 1.00

02:41:03.000 I'll give you money.

02:41:05.000 We'll dress up in uniforms and joke around.

02:41:07.000 And then they busted them and said guns, drugs, viper, militia.

02:41:11.000 And so I want to be clear to people.

02:41:13.000 A militia person wears a suit and goes down and speaks at city council.

02:41:16.000 They're also ready to defend their country from enemies foreign and domestic.

02:41:19.000 They're ready to help in floods or fires or emergencies.

02:41:23.000 We don't creep around and hide in the bushes, but people also do covertly have other subgroups and cells that train in case we were ever invaded, say, by the Russians.

02:41:32.000 And so anybody that tells you to creep around and let's do something illegal or let's go burn down the sheriff's department, that is a fed.

02:41:39.000 That is an informant.

02:41:41.000 That is someone who wants to send you to prison.

02:41:44.000 So Mark, I think if we're inviting people to form militias, which is Absolutely.

02:41:48.000 First of all, most important is, if you want to know who you can trust, think about your family.

02:41:52.000 The bottom line is this.

02:41:54.000 Let's explain to them how to not be infiltrated.

02:41:56.000 Absolutely.

02:41:57.000 First of all, most important is if you want to know who you can trust, think about your family.

02:42:01.000 The bottom line is this, that we're looking at a one man.

02:42:05.000 The individual can train by himself effectively, first of all, and can join as needed as things develop.

02:42:11.000 That is the unstoppable force, the individual.

02:42:14.000 That is the unstoppable force.

02:42:15.000 Go in the mirror and take a look in the mirror.

02:42:17.000 There's the person who's going to stop this thing from happening times the millions upon millions of people who are listening.

02:42:22.000 Number two is, remember, five-man fire team.

02:42:24.000 Well, guess what?

02:42:25.000 You're talking about home defense.

02:42:26.000 You're talking about protecting a retreat.

02:42:28.000 You're talking about defending your community.

02:42:31.000 Well, look at your friends and family that you've known for either all your life or for, say, 20 and 30 years.

02:42:37.000 Is there any doubt what that person's been doing?

02:42:40.000 Well, that's the person you want to turn to and you want to work with.

02:42:43.000 And all of you listening, some of you are going, well, I don't know.

02:42:45.000 Well, you better start working on educating as many people as you can.

02:42:48.000 And that's where all the database comes in that we've provided through the Patriot effort.

02:42:51.000 And by the way, this isn't even military at some levels.

02:42:54.000 This is just your cousin, your brother, your neighbor, your war buddies.

02:42:58.000 This is going out and getting 10 acres, 20, 30 acres together, starting gardens, hanging out.

02:43:03.000 You know, it's fun to get together in tribal units of mutual defense.

02:43:07.000 And you all need your own armored keeps.

02:43:10.000 Go ahead.

02:43:11.000 That's right.

02:43:12.000 And by the way, this is biblical.

02:43:13.000 If you go into the Old Testament, even with regard to Moses and how he moved the people, there was a point where his father, remember his father-in-law came in and said, you're exhausting yourself.

02:43:23.000 I'm abbreviating this.

02:43:24.000 He said, you're exhausting yourself.

02:43:26.000 He goes, yeah, well, you're trying to do everything.

02:43:28.000 You're trying to micromanage everything.

02:43:29.000 You can't do this.

02:43:30.000 You have to assign, and you have to work with smaller increments of people.

02:43:34.000 And this is why the people will be divided, and that's where you see the whole numerical issue come forward about how best to govern the people and how to operate.

02:43:43.000 Well, the same is true with militia formations.

02:43:45.000 You get too big, you're too wild.

02:43:47.000 Basically, it's the same thing with the military.

02:43:49.000 They don't have these blob formations.

02:43:51.000 They work with specific increments, and here's the kicker.

02:43:54.000 Nobody realizes that they get their information from biblical guidelines.

02:43:59.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

02:44:00.000 Oh, heaven forbid! 0.80

02:44:01.000 All the communists are all putting their hands over their ears and shrieking away from the radio on that one!

02:44:05.000 Well, of course they are!

02:44:06.000 The socialists are, too!

02:44:07.000 Oh, don't say that!

02:44:08.000 But the bottom line is that the concept of how best to manage a group of people or groups of people was laid down in the Old Testament nigh on how many thousand years ago.

02:44:18.000 Uh-oh! 0.94

02:44:21.000 That's in Leviticus, isn't it?

02:44:23.000 You can go right through Leviticus numbers.

02:44:25.000 Also, again, almost all of the Old Testament reinforces it.

02:44:30.000 Over and over again.

02:44:31.000 In fact, sometimes, this is what's interesting, if you go through some of the text, you know, different books, it's reinforced three times over.

02:44:37.000 Now, there's a rule there.

02:44:38.000 Remember, any time that it's biblically reinforced like that, it is most important. 0.91

02:44:44.000 So, it will actually be reinforced, and reinforced, and reinforced.

02:44:47.000 I do this sometimes, not jokingly, but not jokingly, on the air.

02:44:50.000 When I repeat something three times, it's again, to show that it's doctrinally reinforced.

02:44:55.000 You're reinforcing it systematically.

02:44:57.000 um most important here is again you can work with your brother your cousin your uncle uh...

02:45:03.000 dad okay dad's working with his his sons his sons work with their grand you know with his grandsons you know these people there is no doubt now again your training as individuals let me give you some real quick answer get airsoft Why should you get Airsoft?

02:45:17.000 I'm abbreviating because we've only got so much time.

02:45:19.000 Airsoft is cheap.

02:45:20.000 You can go to CenterfireSystems.com, buy an Airsoft 45 for $6.95.

02:45:26.000 It does everything a 45 does when it comes to operation, even drops a magazine. 0.82

02:45:31.000 You can fire indoors all day, absolutely quietly, and practice at marksmanship, not piddle around and just pop on the curtains.

02:45:39.000 You can actually lay out a range, And have a copy of an AR-15, a copy of an H&K pistol, a copy of a Smith pistol, a copy of a .45, and with Airsoft and with little targets, you can actually practice all of the basic skills over and over and over again.

02:45:57.000 Well, take BB guns.

02:45:58.000 Take BB guns.

02:45:58.000 I haven't had time in the last, really, ten years to shoot every week, every day like I did growing up, but I was trained, you know, all the guys are old World War II vets.

02:46:05.000 This is almost, people freak out when they say this, but I was shooting .410s when I was four.

02:46:10.000 I remember he was taking me out to shoot.

02:46:11.000 Everybody I know was.

02:46:13.000 People don't believe that, though, who don't know gun culture.

02:46:15.000 And that goes back hundreds of years in our frontier training.

02:46:19.000 And the shotgun was put in my hands.

02:46:20.000 I was taught basic safety.

02:46:21.000 And I would shoot coffee cans at close range just to get me used to the fire, the recoil, to not be afraid of it.

02:46:27.000 This was all systematic.

02:46:28.000 Then you're given a BB gun.

02:46:29.000 You're always watched when you're little when you have it.

02:46:31.000 You're taught how to shoot it, how to aim it.

02:46:33.000 Then you're given a .22 when you're six.

02:46:35.000 Then a shotgun.

02:46:36.000 And by the time I was like 12 years old, I could shoot with the same hole at 200 yards with a .243 with just a $100 sight.

02:46:46.000 Now I can't do that.

02:46:49.000 If you can within a quarter inch group, guess what Alex?

02:46:51.000 You'll have any AK-74, M4, or any rifle.

02:46:54.000 That's my point though, is with that basic training I was given.

02:46:58.000 I had no idea I was being given the training that made Davy Crockett and made the people of the Alamo and everything else, but that's what America was, and that's why when we went to war it was so powerful.

02:47:08.000 Now we're losing those skills is what I'm saying.

02:47:11.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:47:12.000 Airsoft, one of the advantages, and I'm focusing everybody on this for a reason.

02:47:16.000 Airsoft is a few dollars for the simplest models.

02:47:18.000 Don't go buy the most expensive unless you already got them.

02:47:20.000 Don't worry about it.

02:47:21.000 You can get a copy of the Air 15 that does everything the Air 15 does.

02:47:25.000 Here's the advantage.

02:47:26.000 I can take five of those rifles, I can put five people on a little range in the basement.

02:47:31.000 I can teach them basic pistol and rifle marksmanship without any fear of anybody being injured.

02:47:37.000 I will teach them to the point where it becomes second nature.

02:47:40.000 The next tier is to take them to a conventional range, saving ammunition by wasting most of my time where I would be consuming ammo, teaching people basic pistol craft.

02:47:51.000 And by the way, folks, this isn't about the bravado and uniforms and outfits.

02:47:55.000 It's just quiet, serious, happy, hidden in plain view, gearing up to defend your families from the aggravated felons the police and military are hiring en masse.

02:48:03.000 Oh, and by the way, I think we should be very proud, though, of the fact that we are all in the militia.

02:48:08.000 In fact, everybody, we don't have to apologize.

02:48:11.000 No, no, I'm not saying be quiet with everybody else.

02:48:13.000 I mean, you know what I mean, not waving guns around, acting foolish, because we've seen a lot of that.

02:48:17.000 No, no, no, just the reverse.

02:48:18.000 That's the whole idea behind progressive training.

02:48:20.000 This is the whole point.

02:48:21.000 When you teach a person to use the weapon on the range, focus is the key.

02:48:25.000 Everything becomes centered.

02:48:27.000 The target weapon becomes the control device.

02:48:30.000 And the target becomes the center of the universe and everything is focused upon that and it requires one keyword, discipline.

02:48:36.000 Tied in with that is responsibility.

02:48:39.000 Most people don't want to be responsible.

02:48:41.000 They want to be two-year-old children sucking on something constantly, staring at a boob tube, and having somebody else run everything they do.

02:48:49.000 We're not going to be two-year-olds.

02:48:50.000 And I think militia training also should start with people going out and hiking up, you know, ten-mile hikes up hillsides.

02:48:57.000 This is where, again, step one is we're teaching basic rifle marksmanship.

02:49:01.000 People get a chance to get out and get physically active.

02:49:04.000 We get into the weapons phase, we now have basic training and are familiar with the form, feel, and basic operation of the weapon we're going to graduate to.

02:49:14.000 Now, even if you don't have those weapons, here's another advantage.

02:49:17.000 You now have familiarity with an arm that you may capture or acquire in the future.

02:49:23.000 One of the other reasons that even though people say, well they're just toys, Airsoft is such a cheap Vastly advanced training aid that you couldn't go out and build if you wanted to do it.

02:49:35.000 Well, that's how I'm already training my four-year-old daughter, my five-year-old son, is that you just give them the little plastic, you know, safer dart guns, the airsoft you're talking about, and they're in the house shooting targets all day and don't even know they're being trained for firearm use.

02:49:50.000 And that's right, and you can do it all day without anybody knowing.

02:49:52.000 Now, step two is, again, equipment and gear.

02:49:55.000 Remember to tailor the equipment that your person is going to go, I need an assault vest, I need to have what they're using in Iraq. 1.00

02:50:01.000 What they're using in Iraq is not effective for most of the terrain or battlefield of the United States.

02:50:06.000 Hate to tell you guys, most of the junk that's being used over there is specifically engineered for the battlefields of the desert.

02:50:14.000 And for a specific and unique environmental condition.

02:50:18.000 Deserts are just like tropical rainforests.

02:50:21.000 They're very specialized.

02:50:23.000 We live in a temperate environment, so your equipment has to be tailored and engineered, plus camouflaged, to meet the needs of the battlefield that you are looking at right now, that you're living in.

02:50:33.000 Now, Texas has some fans.

02:50:34.000 Well, that means you're wearing, if it's in the city, you're wearing a t-shirt with a A jacket that's got all the pockets you need, ready to be slipped right over, and pants so you blend in.

02:50:44.000 That's what I forgot about a lot of the mainline militias running around the city in camo and commander outfits.

02:50:49.000 The militia needs to be able to be covert or overt, whatever it needs to be.

02:50:53.000 Mark, let's talk behind the scenes about that.

02:50:58.000 Again, Mark, for the web, this will all be up.

02:51:00.000 It's live right now, but it's also going to be posted on YouTube and PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:51:04.000 All the members are watching right now.

02:51:06.000 Mark, I know you don't like to get into this, but we need this specifically so people don't get burned out there.

02:51:10.000 You know, they have these federal traps waiting for people, where you get to the militia meeting and it's led by a fed, as you know about a third of them are, and they say, let's go do violent things, let's get ready with pipe bombs, and everybody goes to prison.

02:51:21.000 We're doing legal, lawful, above board training, really civil defense, To defend against tyranny, to prepare to protect our country.

02:51:29.000 What are the tell-tale signs to look out for?

02:51:32.000 I mean, the things I just said?

02:51:34.000 Exactly.

02:51:34.000 Actually, well, let's put it this way.

02:51:36.000 Let's lay the criteria down for arms. 0.77

02:51:39.000 I want the longest barrel I can get so I can reach and hit him so far out they never know where the bullet came from.

02:51:44.000 So never cut a barrel down. 0.51

02:51:46.000 Okay?

02:51:47.000 Rule number one.

02:51:48.000 No short weapons.

02:51:49.000 I don't need them.

02:51:50.000 I want to hit my enemy at maximum range.

02:51:52.000 I'm getting older.

02:51:53.000 I can't run as fast.

02:51:55.000 Okay?

02:51:56.000 Shotguns, for instance.

02:51:57.000 That was one of the things.

02:51:58.000 Remember, they've always tried to entice people with shortening shotguns.

02:52:01.000 You don't need a short shotgun, people.

02:52:03.000 I want a medium-length barrel, and I want to put a big, long magazine underneath it, and I want to keep a standard stock on it.

02:52:09.000 I don't even need a folding stock.

02:52:11.000 I want to be able to hit the target farther out.

02:52:13.000 Now, as far as explosive devices, none of the above.

02:52:16.000 You don't need any.

02:52:18.000 Period.

02:52:18.000 You know why?

02:52:19.000 When I plug the bugger on the other side, he's carrying 40mm grenades, he's carrying grenades and pyrotechnics, I'm gonna strip off his carcass. 1.00

02:52:26.000 I'm gonna strip him bare butt naked, I'm gonna let the dogs chew on what's left of him. 0.99

02:52:30.000 That's how it's going to work. 0.98

02:52:31.000 So I don't need to create, and as far as people going, well we need this and that, now you can understand how to use them.

02:52:38.000 But I want to explain what Feds do.

02:52:40.000 They'll be looking at you like you're on a rabbit hunt.

02:52:42.000 They will be trying to get people to do things illegal in the first five minutes.

02:52:47.000 And I want people to understand, you do not want to get into their traps.

02:52:51.000 And I'm just trying to explain that to listeners.

02:52:53.000 One of the ways to save that is again, keep the unit at the fire, and again, fire team and squad.

02:52:59.000 Make sure it's people that all people you know.

02:53:02.000 If you put the senior man who has had the most experience, obviously will gravitate to the position of authority.

02:53:08.000 If dad's been in World War II or been in Korea or Vietnam, he's probably seen a little dying and death.

02:53:14.000 So maybe it'd be good to listen to the guy who's already bled a bit, okay?

02:53:18.000 Now, if none of you have combat experience, that's fine.

02:53:21.000 The first rule is, do you know each other?

02:53:25.000 Now, common sense is KISS. 1.00

02:53:26.000 Keep it simple stupid. 1.00

02:53:28.000 You do not need any special super wonder toys or special weapon systems or nuclear devices. 1.00

02:53:34.000 We're not looking for anything other than conventional infantry arms.

02:53:38.000 Conventional handguns, nothing modified.

02:53:40.000 And again, even if you're ever disarmed, a knife and will is everything you need to get whatever you need.

02:53:48.000 If I have to start with a club or a knife, that's where I go.

02:53:51.000 But the whole point is, as my old martial arts instructor said when he said, well, name for me a martial art.

02:53:56.000 He said boxing, taekwondo, whatever.

02:53:58.000 And this was survival, escape, evasion.

02:53:59.000 He goes, what about a knife?

02:54:02.000 What about a stick?

02:54:03.000 And he goes, then what about a gun?

02:54:05.000 And everybody went, oh, my martial arts instructor is mentioning a gun.

02:54:08.000 He goes, yeah, because all of the other techniques.

02:54:10.000 And the next thing he said is, if I'm using my hands and I'm a soldier, I've done something wrong.

02:54:15.000 All right, here we go, Mark.

02:54:16.000 Back to the full audience.

02:54:21.000 Alright, the government is hiring aggravated felons and illegal alien aggravated felons, mashing them against us, openly trying to murder us and put us into camps en masse, and forcibly inject us in nerve gas our cities, and the founding fathers said the militia is to defend against the criminal government, that was in the Supreme Court brief last month, and against common street thugs.

02:54:41.000 So we're here talking about what is the law, what America is.

02:54:44.000 If you're against the militia, As a lot of, Mark says, pot-licking neocons are.

02:54:48.000 You're against the Republic.

02:54:50.000 Mark, we've got this segment and one more.

02:54:52.000 You're going over people forming up into their civil defense groups.

02:54:56.000 That's what the militia is.

02:54:57.000 We didn't even have the National Guard until 1906.

02:55:01.000 And preparing.

02:55:01.000 And a lot of that means finding a place with a water well.

02:55:04.000 You know, having storable food.

02:55:06.000 And just being ready to defend your family is really what this comes down to.

02:55:10.000 Or you can go to the camp and let the foreign troops put you in a mass grave. 0.99

02:55:13.000 And I guess that's what a lot of you are going to do.

02:55:16.000 Well, another thing here real quick is if you're interested, search Mark, last name K-O-E-R-N-K-E.

02:55:24.000 Look for videos.

02:55:25.000 You'll find Equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and 2 on YouTube and in other places where other people have posted and want to say thank you because it's publicly available.

02:55:34.000 That gives you basic information. 0.73

02:55:36.000 You've got goofs that are going to comment back and forth.

02:55:39.000 The bottom line is this, a lot of people have never been in uniform or never used equipment before.

02:55:43.000 This was designed to give you ideas.

02:55:45.000 You run with the ball.

02:55:46.000 When it comes to what you need to get the job done, you're going to have to figure out what fits your wallet, combined with what it is that ergonomically works with your age group, which is something I address.

02:55:56.000 You've got very young people.

02:55:58.000 If your children were separated from you, you've got them dancing around in circles with nothing on.

02:56:03.000 When they get separated, if they get separated from you, you'd be gnashing of teeth and running of hair and whatever, okay?

02:56:10.000 Instead, you put a 72-hour kit together that fits that child and is on their back.

02:56:15.000 It has to be user-friendly.

02:56:17.000 If something happens and they get separated, basically you're going to have to instruct them on what to do or how to deal with this, even if they're a small child.

02:56:26.000 Well, everybody now, especially most of us living in these urban centers, you need to have a place where you meet your wife and children, especially if they're older children, and then if that place doesn't work, a backup secondary place.

02:56:36.000 If I don't meet you here in an hour, I'll meet you here in 24 hours or here in three days.

02:56:40.000 Progressive evacuation to move away from the epicenter of the threat, and a threat can be Government trying to create a police state.

02:56:48.000 Yeah, remember, we have a rogue government that blew up buildings on 9-11.

02:56:51.000 They're not playing games, they're not nice, and they're not going away.

02:56:55.000 So focus on moving away from the objective.

02:56:57.000 Again, one of the things I did, go to YouTube and punch in Equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and 2.

02:57:04.000 You'll find them posted there.

02:57:05.000 If you want a nice copy, a brand new copy on DVD, we got them here.

02:57:10.000 You can make as many copies as you want.

02:57:12.000 Equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and Part 2, and there's going to be a Part 3 very soon.

02:57:16.000 But Equipping 1 and 2, again, go to PBN, PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130, and $25 for the set of DVDs.

02:57:29.000 Make copies.

02:57:30.000 The only thing I ask is make copies in their entirety so people get all the information.

02:57:34.000 But, Mark, more importantly, give out the website.

02:57:36.000 That's how a lot of listeners, 75% of our listeners are on the web.

02:57:39.000 Give out the website where people can find that.

02:57:42.000 If you want to go to all of our links, go to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com.

02:57:49.000 That's LibertyTreeRadio.

02:57:53.000 The number 4.

02:57:55.000 Mg.com and then go to the video links.

02:57:58.000 Real quick there on that, YouTube, if you go to our YouTube site, please, everybody listening, take the time and do this.

02:58:03.000 We just posted the latest sub-equipping video.

02:58:06.000 It's the latest one.

02:58:07.000 It'll be on our page.

02:58:09.000 Go to YouTube and then go to Liberty Tree Radio.

02:58:12.000 The latest one is on rations, and the idea is you can improvise from a thousand directions, people.

02:58:18.000 Somebody says, I only have five dollars to work with a week.

02:58:21.000 You give me that five dollars, and I'm going to be looking like a woodchuck.

02:58:24.000 Stay there, Mark.

02:58:25.000 Mark, final segment.

02:58:26.000 I want to come back and talk about your time in prison and how you psychologically dealt with being set up and then being put in there and came out stronger on the other side.

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02:59:56.000 You know, my friends, we didn't start this fight.

03:00:07.000 We didn't ask for this.

03:00:09.000 We didn't draw first blood and second blood and third blood and a million bloods.

03:00:13.000 Pedophile rings are kidnapping children all over the country.

03:00:16.000 That's who the CPS is.

03:00:17.000 It's all over the Texas News. 0.83

03:00:18.000 The Youth Commission just mass rapes children, publicly prostituting kidnapped children out. 1.00

03:00:25.000 Florida run by pedophiles. 1.00

03:00:26.000 Michigan, it's just hell on earth. 1.00

03:00:29.000 A million dead Iraqis, three million dead in the last 18 years. 0.95

03:00:32.000 Uh, by the globalist hands, our military totally being turned into brainwashed demons. 0.56

03:00:37.000 Those that want to stay in, others just mentally breaking down and coming home and committing suicide. 0.76

03:00:43.000 Uh, it's horrible.

03:00:43.000 Don't commit suicide.

03:00:44.000 Join us.

03:00:45.000 Join the rebellion against tyranny.

03:00:48.000 Which is obedience to God.

03:00:49.000 And you will no longer feel bad about yourself.

03:00:51.000 You will have a mission.

03:00:52.000 And it's empowering.

03:00:54.000 You will have courage again.

03:00:57.000 Mark Kornke was run off the road, set up.

03:00:59.000 They tried to set him up for a bank robbery.

03:01:01.000 He had no criminal record.

03:01:02.000 You know, his dad, the sheriff's department, whole family.

03:01:04.000 Great folks in his area of Michigan.

03:01:06.000 And they ran him off the road.

03:01:07.000 Very mad at him.

03:01:08.000 Bill Clinton's personally attacked him and others.

03:01:10.000 It's all on squad car video.

03:01:11.000 I aired it on Local Access here in Austin.

03:01:13.000 They sent it to me.

03:01:14.000 And he wanted to get his son out because they told him they were going to kill him.

03:01:17.000 And he got his son out of the car and then sped off, you know, sped off to get his son out of the car when they got behind him.

03:01:24.000 The cops on the radio said, but he didn't rob the bank, why are we doing this?

03:01:26.000 And they said, go to cell phone.

03:01:28.000 And then, you know, it was a big setup.

03:01:30.000 So we have all the squad car footage.

03:01:31.000 They run him off the road, then charge him with assaulting police with a deadly weapon.

03:01:35.000 Railroaded seven years in prison.

03:01:37.000 And Mark, in the three minutes we've got left, how did you psychologically, you know, do it?

03:01:43.000 I know what you did.

03:01:44.000 You made it a war on the inside to wake up those prisons.

03:01:47.000 But explain that to people.

03:01:49.000 Real quick, uh, from the movie you just had the music from, uh, you know, Starship Trooper, the line where the commanders are heading towards the planet.

03:01:56.000 Remember your training and you will come back alive!

03:02:00.000 Rule number one, I did have a lot of good instructors in survival, escape, and evasion.

03:02:04.000 One of the classes I had, one of many classes by men who had just come out of detention camps and concentration camps were Vietnam POWs and Korean War POWs.

03:02:14.000 That helped a great deal.

03:02:16.000 My belief in our Lord Jesus Christ and the strength that He gave me is key and critical to the process.

03:02:22.000 Those people that you're worried about are saying, Oh, I'm going to commit suicide. 0.92

03:02:25.000 Shame on you! 1.00

03:02:26.000 God gave you a great life.

03:02:28.000 You take advantage of that life.

03:02:30.000 You bite the hind end of the other side. 1.00

03:02:31.000 You kick them in the slats. 0.97

03:02:33.000 And when you're done, we end up free.

03:02:35.000 We end up enjoying our liberty.

03:02:36.000 That was the key to this whole thing.

03:02:38.000 You know what prison's like?

03:02:39.000 It's like being at the Albuquerque bus terminal.

03:02:42.000 The Albuquerque bus terminal is the most impersonal big airport type place you've ever seen.

03:02:42.000 You know what?

03:02:47.000 People coming and going, you don't know them. 1.00

03:02:48.000 Some are goofs, some are nutcases. 0.99

03:02:50.000 You know what? 0.99

03:02:51.000 You focus on the idea, you're going on another bus and going somewhere else.

03:02:55.000 That's the key to this whole thing.

03:02:57.000 The enemy wants us to... They want to paw at our time.

03:03:00.000 They want to paw at our lives. 1.00

03:03:01.000 They're like parasites. 1.00

03:03:02.000 They are parasites. 1.00

03:03:03.000 You know what? 1.00

03:03:04.000 If y'all get tired of them and you kick them in the slats and drive their hind in out of this country, you will be amazed. 1.00

03:03:09.000 And you know what? 0.99

03:03:10.000 The first time that we have to pull the trigger and everybody goes, I'm gonna say, oh, shut up! 0.71

03:03:16.000 When the time comes, you will find such an uplifting weight that just sheds from you because it is time.

03:03:23.000 That you will find out real quick what liberty is all about and what life and liberty is all about.

03:03:28.000 Well, I know this, Mark.

03:03:29.000 I remember growing up in Dallas and, you know, having three or four guys corner me and start beating the hell out of me.

03:03:33.000 And the feeling of just fighting back and being cornered and being in the right, you know, when you start slugging them and they start falling, it's an uplifting feeling.

03:03:41.000 If you'll just fight back, you're going to win!

03:03:44.000 The other side expects you to lay down.

03:03:46.000 You know what they want?

03:03:47.000 They want a cheap victory.

03:03:48.000 Remember, the basic rule of Sunsoul is Convince the enemy it's futile to resist before the first arrow has left the first bow.

03:03:56.000 And that's what they're doing right now.

03:03:58.000 Guess what?

03:03:58.000 The other side, they die just like everyone else.

03:04:02.000 You know what?

03:04:02.000 I've got a basic rule.

03:04:03.000 It's in, in fact, Battle for the Republic, The Winter War.

03:04:06.000 I wrote the book series so that you could understand from the, from the mental experience.

03:04:12.000 The physical and the mental experience from all the different directions I, well, that I, that can be imagined.

03:04:18.000 Okay?

03:04:19.000 And the purpose behind this is to understand that it is not futile to resist.

03:04:24.000 Just the reverse. 0.99

03:04:25.000 The only people that are saying that are the jackasses on the other side who want to rape, kill, pillage, and burn this country. 1.00

03:04:31.000 And as soon as we kick him in the slats, we can all go home and enjoy ourselves. 1.00

03:04:34.000 The problem is this.

03:04:36.000 We're already home, Alex.

03:04:37.000 We're here.

03:04:38.000 That's it, Mark.

03:04:38.000 And we don't have a choice that got us cornered.

03:04:41.000 Thanks for coming on.

03:04:42.000 We'll talk to you again real soon.

03:04:43.000 Take care, Mark.

03:04:44.000 Thank you, Alex.

03:04:44.000 God bless.

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03:08:49.000 They try to wrap all their criminal agendas in the American flag, but they're being defeated.

03:08:52.000 The true patriots are rising to the occasion in the final, last ditch.

03:08:57.000 That means the last ditch in our defenses.

03:08:59.000 The Alamo here, as the New World Order comes up over the parapets.

03:09:04.000 We're joined in the next 40 minutes, Dennis Kucinich scheduled.

03:09:07.000 We're going to be calling him to talk about impeachment.

03:09:10.000 We had Willie Nelson in a barn-burning interview in the first hour.

03:09:15.000 That's why I've abbreviated some of the guests today, because I said I'd call him last week to get him on to call for impeachment, and I just didn't get around to calling.

03:09:23.000 So I call him this morning, and he goes, let's do it right now.

03:09:26.000 So we had him on, and then I didn't want to ask him about doing some big 9-11 truth movement thing, because kind of at a subconscious level, I don't want the work.

03:09:34.000 Or the craziness, or people wanting to be involved, and all the nuttiness of it.

03:09:37.000 So I didn't ever ask him.

03:09:39.000 The caller asked him, he said, sure I'll do it, and then I asked him off air, and he said he wants me to basically organize it and run it.

03:09:45.000 I said, do you want to organize it and run it?

03:09:46.000 He goes, oh Alex, you tell me and call me tomorrow, what you want to do.

03:09:49.000 But he's the expert, I'll talk to him, we'll know something in the next few days.

03:09:54.000 I want a gently, gently catchy monkey.

03:09:56.000 I don't want to run this into the ground or people don't bug Nelson or besiege him or try to hijack what we're doing here and then kill the whole golden goose.

03:10:07.000 This is really going to be great for the 9-11 truth. 1.00

03:10:09.000 A lot of media attention.

03:10:11.000 Also, it's going to be about impeachment and not having an Iran war.

03:10:15.000 So, very, very exciting.

03:10:17.000 This could absolutely be huge.

03:10:17.000 This could be huge.

03:10:19.000 I think it's going to be mega huge.

03:10:21.000 In fact, I'm giddy right now.

03:10:22.000 I am very excited.

03:10:24.000 Going to St.

03:10:25.000 John Hunt, who I'm also excited about.

03:10:27.000 You know, it'll probably be out early next year, middle of next year, because I want to take my time making it.

03:10:32.000 The tentative title is Black Sunshine, and why?

03:10:34.000 Because it was a broad, you know, Main Street, sunny day that it happened, but it was a dark light of the New World Order that carried out the killing. 0.87

03:10:42.000 So darkness on that, you know, that bright winter day.

03:10:45.000 So Black Sunshine is the poetic term that I've come up with.

03:10:48.000 It may be named something else, but...

03:10:50.000 We've got some more interviews to do, it's Cinema Verite, no voiceover, Jim Mars is in it, a bunch of other people, but central to it is St.

03:10:57.000 John Hunt, son of E. Howard Hunt, when you see Mission Impossible, Ethan Hunt, that character's named after his father, CIA section chief, black op commander, overthrew a bunch of countries, we knew he was photographed as being one of the tramps, we knew he was involved always, and then before he died he admitted on video and on audio that he indeed had been involved in management Of the hit against JFK, and he's got his new e-book out.

03:11:21.000 It was too hot for any of the publishers to handle, though he may put it in book form, paper book form soon.

03:11:26.000 I hope he does.

03:11:27.000 But he has his new book out with a lot of incredible stuff, stuff that's never been covered before in his new book, and we'll tell you how to get that today at his website, the e-book.

03:11:36.000 St.

03:11:37.000 John Hunt, great to have you on.

03:11:38.000 It's quite a hot radio show today, and we're glad to have you added into the mix.

03:11:43.000 Well, thank you so much, Alex.

03:11:44.000 It's great to be back on, and I remember what a great time we had down in Dallas, and, you know, working hard to uncover the truth and bring it to the American people and to the world in general is what you're here for, brother.

03:12:02.000 So I'm glad to be on your show again.

03:12:04.000 Absolutely.

03:12:05.000 St.

03:12:05.000 John, for those that haven't heard you the few times you've been here, or on Coast to Coast AM and a few others, or Rolling Stone that broke it all a year ago or so, why don't you break down who you are, your dad, and then go through the basics and then tell us about the book and some of the things that people never heard before on the radio.

03:12:21.000 Okay, well, in a nutshell, my father is E. Howard Hunt.

03:12:26.000 He passed away January 2007, and it's long been, he's been a suspect for many, many years that he had some involvement in the JFK assassination.

03:12:40.000 Now, everybody knows E. Howard Hunt as being the co-conspirator, the organizer of the Watergate Break-in under President Nixon.

03:12:48.000 He worked as one of the plumbers, which was Nixon's secret black ops team with Gordon Liddy.

03:12:54.000 They went around the country breaking and entering, firebombing, and all manner of illegal activities.

03:13:05.000 Earlier in his career, my father had been Chief of Psychological Warfare during the Guatemalan The Guatemalan overthrow in 1954 of Arbenz, and later on in the early 60s he had hand-picked the members of the new presidential government for the Bay of Pigs.

03:13:29.000 He was involved in the Bay of Pigs, which was the failed operation to overthrow Castro.

03:13:37.000 Illegally, of course.

03:13:37.000 This is just one of the many CIA secret operations that the American public was not privy to, contrary to our Constitution, which allows for us to be in control of this agency.

03:13:55.000 In fact, we're not in control of this agency, and later on, at a very advanced stage, my father Confess to me of his knowledge and his role in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

03:14:08.000 Now, the things that he told me, I got an article that came out in Rolling Stone Magazine, that's how the story broke, and then Alex, you were one of the first, I think the first radio station to break this nationwide after the Rolling Stone story came out in April 2000.

03:14:28.000 2007.

03:14:30.000 And basically what my father told me was that he was a benchwarmer in a group of contract CIA agents, Cuban expatriates, that were working under Cuban expatriates, that were working under the protection of the CIA and of President Johnson and of the FBI to assassinate President Kennedy because he was viewed as soft on communism.

03:14:59.000 He was viewed as being a danger to the true and secret desires of the military-industrial complex way back in 1963.

03:15:11.000 So, what's important about this little window of history here is that this, I believe, was the first stab at the American Constitution and the first time that the secret government really had stepped in and taken control of this country in a well-carried-out coup d'etat, which my father was a part of.

03:15:33.000 In my book, as you mentioned, has just come out as an e-book on my website, stjohnhunt.com, I supply all the handwritten memos and the photographs and the notes that my father wrote to me on his deathbed in Miami, Florida when I flew down there and he confessed his knowledge and his involvement in the assassination of President Kennedy.

03:15:56.000 So the reason this is important is because we all have to understand that this kind of stuff has been going on a long time.

03:16:03.000 It's going on today, even bigger and worse than ever, and thank God we have people like you, Alex, to bring out the truth.

03:16:13.000 This book has been shopped to various publishers on the East Coast of New York, and people are just scared to take this on.

03:16:23.000 So I went ahead and published it as an e-book, which you can get on my website, stjohnhunt.com.

03:16:31.000 Well, continue.

03:16:32.000 I mean, break down some of the things that are covered in the book, because this is amazing information.

03:16:37.000 You would think that the mainstream publishers would want to publish it.

03:16:40.000 It's a very well-written book.

03:16:41.000 I've read it.

03:16:42.000 A lot of other people did look at it.

03:16:43.000 The publishers are scared.

03:16:45.000 I mean, this is smoking gun, handwritten notes, documents.

03:16:48.000 I mean, this is really the key, one of the biggest smoking guns ever.

03:16:52.000 There's been others.

03:16:53.000 This is kind of the coup de grace, and no, they won't touch it, because they've got so much hinging on the myth And selling the myth that they told the truth about the JFK killing being a lone assassin, I'm surprised they didn't say the Tooth Fairy did it or that Kennedy bumped his head on the side of a car like they said Budo did when there's video of her being shot in Pakistan.

03:17:15.000 I mean, now they feed us even bigger lies, but this is one of the big ones, one of the big icons, if not the biggest, just as big as 9-11 in the psyche.

03:17:23.000 So if that falls, so many of the other dominoes fall.

03:17:26.000 Yeah, this was really the first, you know, one of the biggest lies that was fostered upon the American public.

03:17:33.000 And of course, you know, the mindset back in 1963 was, you know, we were still a country whose citizens were rather innocent to this kind of internal intrigue.

03:17:45.000 And it was just so natural for the New World Order government, which I believe started back then, to step in and take control by assassinating President Kennedy and then putting in Lyndon Johnson.

03:18:02.000 My father, I have in my book the detailed conversations that I had with my father.

03:18:08.000 I have photographs of the conspirators.

03:18:13.000 It's not a long book.

03:18:14.000 It's 131 pages, but it's got a bounty of memorandums and handwritten notes, the photographs of the conspirators.

03:18:24.000 I have some personal family photographs in there of my father and myself and our family at different times of our lives.

03:18:34.000 And it's also a very personal memoir about my relationship with my father and about my lifelong struggle to find the truth of my father.

03:18:44.000 Because starting in 1970, 1971, 72, when Watergate broke and my father was arrested for his role, he served 33 and a half months in federal penitentiary for his involvement as one of the co-conspirators in the Watergate break-in, as he served 33 and a half months in federal penitentiary for his involvement as one of the co-conspirators in the Watergate break-in, as well as

03:19:07.000 Um, it was just shortly after that that I saw a, a poster on a telephone pole in Oakland, California, where I was living at the time, uh, with a picture of one of the tramps.

03:19:17.000 Um, now the tramps, for those of you who don't know, uh, were three, um, supposed hobos that were arrested within minutes after the, uh, the assassination there in Dallas, um,

03:19:29.000 They were behind a parking lot and a picket fence in a railroad yard, and they were discovered there, and then they were paraded through downtown Dealey Plaza and taken, booked, and then released, and all the records of their bookings were somehow lost or destroyed for the next 40 years.

03:19:50.000 All right, St.

03:19:50.000 John Hunt, we gotta go to break.

03:19:52.000 We'll be right back and we will get into more detail on the key info that you are covering.

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03:24:23.000 John Hunt is our guest, who would have ever thought that after the death of E. Howard Hunt, talk about an incredible past, swashbuckling, intrigue, black operations, overthrowing governments, and yes, honchoing the assassination of John F. Kennedy, his son now with audio, video, all of it, releasing a book right now at his website.

03:24:48.000 St.

03:24:48.000 John, again, tell people how they can get the book.

03:24:51.000 Well, they can go to my website, which is stjohnhunt.com, and that's spelled out S-A-I-N-T-J-O-H-N-H-U-N-T, stjohnhunt.com, and there'll be a prompt there to click to order the book.

03:25:05.000 The book's only $12.95, and I guarantee anybody that gets this book is going to be just thrilled with the information I'm providing.

03:25:12.000 And by the way, I need to send some people, when we get the time, out to interview you in another interview for the film we've decided, showing where they tried to run you off the road and where they broke into your place to try to steal your notes.

03:25:23.000 I mean, you've gone through a lot.

03:25:25.000 You know, the fact of that even shows more evidence of how real this is, all the things that have happened to you in the process.

03:25:31.000 Yes, just after I came out with this information, or when I was in the early stages of processing this information, and I was making phone calls to my friend Eric Kettergaard from Rolling Stone Magazine.

03:25:47.000 My house got broken into.

03:25:48.000 Nothing of any value was stolen.

03:25:51.000 I had TVs, DVD players, CDs, money and things.

03:25:57.000 That was all left alone, and what they went through was all my files in my office.

03:26:02.000 All my paperwork had been gone through, and the files were just strewn all over the room.

03:26:09.000 The break-in looked like a professional job because there was no broken windows.

03:26:14.000 There was no damage to any of the door jams.

03:26:16.000 It was, to me, obviously a very wonderful...

03:26:20.000 well-planned and carried out break-in by people that do this kind of thing all the time.

03:26:26.000 Later, a few days after that, I was run off the road on a very lonely stretch of coastal road near Eureka, California, a road called Samoa Boulevard that runs right alongside the Pacific Ocean.

03:26:42.000 And that was pretty scary.

03:26:44.000 But I've always felt strongly that this information I have is of extreme importance historically and very significant and very relevant even today, 45 years later.

03:26:57.000 What I have to offer in my book is a detailed account of what I put together from all of my father's conversations, from the tape recording he sent me, where you can also hear this recording of his voice on my website.

03:27:12.000 There's a link there.

03:27:13.000 You can click it and you'll hear my father in his own real voice confessing his involvement and some of the key players in the assassination.

03:27:23.000 Now, you know, people have all thought the assassination of JFK was a huge conspiracy and how could this conspiracy involve so many people?

03:27:33.000 Well, it really didn't.

03:27:34.000 In the 50s and 60s, there was an elite group of CIA The CIA officers that headed a very secret black operation section called the Executive Action Committee.

03:27:47.000 And the Executive Action was a euphemism for the assassination of unfriendly foreign leaders.

03:27:53.000 And the people that were involved in this were Cord Meyer, he was the Chief of Station of Great Britain.

03:28:00.000 He also personally hated Kennedy because his ex-wife had been a mistress to JFK for Corbier was also the handler.

03:28:08.000 We have the national security documents of the Clintons.

03:28:11.000 Oh really?

03:28:12.000 Yeah, when they were going to Oxford.

03:28:15.000 Yeah, Bill Harvey was also one of the chief operatives for the Executive Action Black Op operations to assassinate unfriendly foreign leaders.

03:28:29.000 He was stationed over in Italy and Rome and there's a memo that has surfaced Well, they always use go-betweens.

03:28:38.000 Harvey to his CIA bosses suggesting that they use Corsican hitmen for any assassination of foreign leaders rather than using the American mafia.

03:28:48.000 Well, they always use go-betweens.

03:28:50.000 They always use it so they have the plausible deniability and degrees of separation between each envelope.

03:28:56.000 That's right. 0.91

03:28:57.000 And these were an elite group of CIA operatives that were very familiar with how to put assassinations together, how to carry them out, and how to cover their tracks or cover their asses after the assassination was over. 0.85

03:29:10.000 Antonio Vecchiano was the vicious leader of Anticastro Alpha 66, who worked as a contract agent for the CIA.

03:29:18.000 He was handled by David Phillips, and he met with Oswald in Mexico in 1963, according to my father.

03:29:24.000 Stay there.

03:29:25.000 Let's talk more about this in the book.

03:29:26.000 Final segment with St.

03:29:29.000 John Hunt straight ahead, and then we're scheduled to have Dennis Kucinich popping in with the big impeachment hearing coming up in less than 48 hours.

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03:32:34.000 9-11 was an inside job.

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03:33:51.000 People have been lobbying me to try to get Ventura out to a 9-11 event, try to get Willie Nelson out to one, try to get Charlie Sheen out to one.

03:33:59.000 I already got Charlie Sheen out to one, and I just had never asked.

03:34:02.000 But a caller called in and said, why don't you do it?

03:34:04.000 And Willie Nelson said, yeah, I want to do that.

03:34:07.000 But I'm not going to... You see, Willie Nelson's going to do what he wants.

03:34:10.000 He has the band, he has the tour buses, he has the millions of dollars in equipment.

03:34:14.000 They are the ones that are going to choose where to do a venue.

03:34:17.000 Now they want me to advise them and be part of picking who comes and speaks.

03:34:21.000 Okay, we've talked off air already.

03:34:23.000 I'm talking to them in the morning, but everybody's going crazy.

03:34:26.000 We're getting phone calls, emails.

03:34:28.000 Willie Nelson is running things.

03:34:30.000 Not Alex Jones, and certainly not some of you out there.

03:34:34.000 So don't, uh, well you can't stop him from doing it, he's doing it, you can't, so you can, people can try to take it over, do whatever they want to do, it's not going to work, so good luck.

03:34:42.000 Go ahead, just like people tried to take over my LA thing, it didn't work.

03:34:45.000 I'm just, I'm tired of, I want to fight the New World Order, I want to have a big media event, I want to get it on C-SPAN, I want to get TV coverage to try to stop the war.

03:34:54.000 Will this be a magic bullet?

03:34:56.000 Somebody put this in here in the studio.

03:35:00.000 No, but it's something.

03:35:02.000 It's the right spirit, the right direction.

03:35:04.000 I think it's going to be big.

03:35:06.000 In the time we have left with St.

03:35:07.000 John Hunt, I'll have him back up next week if you can do it for a full hour to take your calls because I love the different directions callers take us.

03:35:14.000 In the last 5-6 minutes we've got left, St.

03:35:15.000 John, other key points you want to make?

03:35:19.000 Well, some of the key points covered in my book are the handwritten memo that includes the admission, finally, that my father wrote down that he and Frank Sergis had been lifelong friends.

03:35:35.000 Now, this is key because He'd always maintained that he never met Frank Sturgis until he put together the crew for the Watergate break-in.

03:35:43.000 Now, why this is important is because Frank Sturgis and my father were accused of being two of the three tramps in Dealey Plaza.

03:35:52.000 And, of course, my father denied his entire life that he ever knew Frank Sturgis until the 70s.

03:35:58.000 Well, Dealey Plaza, of course, was the Kennedy assassination.

03:36:00.000 That was in 1963.

03:36:01.000 And now in this book, I reveal in a handwritten memo that, in fact, my father did finally admit that he had known Frank Sturgis during that time.

03:36:10.000 So this book just chips away a little bit.

03:36:14.000 A little bit more at the conspiracy.

03:36:16.000 I don't claim to have figured the entire... Are you kidding?

03:36:20.000 Chips away?

03:36:21.000 It isn't just that your book or your father's audio or videotapes.

03:36:24.000 Nobody's seen the video.

03:36:25.000 We've got it.

03:36:26.000 We're going to put a little clip out soon.

03:36:27.000 But I keep meaning to.

03:36:29.000 We're just so busy.

03:36:30.000 Yeah, Alex, I want to make available to you the entire 10 hours which I have available to you to do what you want with it.

03:36:39.000 Well, as soon as September's over, all we're working on is the JFK thing.

03:36:43.000 We're working on some now, but Burmess got us to help him with his film, and that's got to be done for September 1st, so everything's insane.

03:36:50.000 But we're going to send Rob out there for a week with you if that's okay to interview you.

03:36:54.000 get copies of all this, interview you there in Northern California, and we've got some other interviews we're going to do, so absolutely.

03:37:00.000 Okay.

03:37:01.000 But you say it chips away a little bit.

03:37:04.000 This is bombshell info.

03:37:05.000 Well, it really is, but on the broader scale and the larger scale, The JFK conspiracy is just a part of the entire conspiracy of the New World Order to dupe the American public and to basically rob us of our rights and to establish martial law, which we're just a hair's breadth away from.

03:37:30.000 Well, it's the same crew, and then you look at the presidents and people that come after, and the heads of the CIA and the heads of Congress are the people involved in running the black op that day in Dealey Plaza back in 1963.

03:37:45.000 So it is just a repeat over and over again of the same nightmare.

03:37:49.000 It's like Groundhog Day or something.

03:37:50.000 And it's just, we have to put an end to it.

03:37:52.000 It has to stop.

03:37:54.000 And I mentioned that Rick Linklater showed some of my films to the Die Hard star, Bruce Willis, and he went from being a Neocon follower to now, I told you before it was in Vanity Fair, he came out and said, yeah, the same people that killed Kennedy are involved in running things today in 9-11.

03:38:11.000 So there it was confirmed, behind the scenes, Bruce Willis had woken up.

03:38:14.000 The neocons freaked out and tried to deny it and said, we talked to one of Bruce Willis' friends.

03:38:18.000 He says that's not the case.

03:38:19.000 But then he did an interview with Vanity Fair.

03:38:21.000 I haven't even tried to get Bruce Willis on.

03:38:23.000 You know what?

03:38:23.000 Remind me.

03:38:24.000 I want to get Willis on.

03:38:25.000 Good for you.

03:38:29.000 People say that we always have big stars on here.

03:38:32.000 Most of the time, Charlie Sheen, you name it, they come to us, which is great.

03:38:35.000 They want to speak out, and then it gets the big attention.

03:38:37.000 It isn't because they think they're important.

03:38:40.000 It's because they understand that that will get media attention, and they are important because they have courage.

03:38:45.000 Well, St.

03:38:46.000 John, I just really want to thank you for coming on with us.

03:38:49.000 I want to set you up next week for an hour to open you up to the listeners so they can ask you questions, and get out your website one more time.

03:38:57.000 My website, stjohnhunt.com.

03:38:58.000 Spell it out, S-A-I-N-T, johnhunt.com.

03:39:02.000 And for those of you that download the book, it's only $12.95.

03:39:07.000 It's a real good read.

03:39:10.000 I've gotten so many compliments.

03:39:13.000 You know, people just can't put it down when they read it.

03:39:15.000 And it's filled with all the memos, the handwritten documents that my father gave me, personal family photographs.

03:39:21.000 And feel free to contact me through my website.

03:39:23.000 Let me know what you think of it.

03:39:24.000 St.

03:39:25.000 John, we'll talk to you next week.

03:39:26.000 Alright, thank you Alex.

03:39:27.000 Thank you so much my friend.

03:39:28.000 While we're lining Kucinich up, he's supposed to call in here but we'll see what goes on.

03:39:33.000 While we're doing that, go ahead and play a few minutes of the clip of him he put out yesterday on YouTube.

03:39:38.000 We have a link to it on InfoWars.com.

03:39:40.000 Calling for people to support him and explaining why he's taking this bold step.

03:39:44.000 Here it is.

03:39:46.000 I want to thank you for the support which you have given to my efforts to hold this administration accountable for taking us into a war based on lies And for the destruction of the rule of law and the destruction of cherished constitutional principles.

03:40:04.000 Because of your support, this Friday in Washington, D.C., I will make a presentation before the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives, at which time I will make the case that this President has violated his oath of office, violated United States law and international law,

03:40:26.000 Has separated our nation from our Constitution and has taken us on a course that has been so profoundly anti-democratic that it has threatened the core of our nation.

03:40:42.000 Because of your support, I've been able to advance this series of matters right to the table of the Judiciary Committee.

03:40:56.000 Because of your support, I've been able to create an opening where we're finally getting a chance in Washington to discuss the abuses of power, to discuss a war based on lies, to discuss the whole architecture.

03:41:21.000 He's here, Jones.

03:41:23.000 of constitutional principles that have been taken down.

03:41:33.000 Every serious matter that faces the people of this country today can be linked to an administration which is not accountable.

03:41:45.000 For example, the price of gasoline.

03:41:51.000 You know that Vice President Cheney, with the permission and blessing of President Bush, held secret meetings with leaders of the oil industry, where they laid out maps of Iraq, far in advance of the attack on Iraq.

03:42:11.000 You know and I know the war was about oil.

03:42:15.000 And if we can force the Vice President of the United States to have to testify We can get the information that's necessary to be able to prove that not only has U.S.

03:42:26.000 law been violated, but that the public trust has been under a continuous assault by an alliance between the White House and the oil companies.

03:42:41.000 Ladies and gentlemen, you can watch the rest of him eloquently lay it out on his congressional website.

03:42:46.000 We have links to it up on InfoWars.com.

03:42:48.000 Now, I want to be clear, we only have him for a little while, Congressman Kucinich.

03:42:53.000 I got Willie Nelson on the show today.

03:42:54.000 I called him and said, Eddie, you want to come on and support Mr. Kucinich's impeachment?

03:42:58.000 He said, absolutely, let's do it today.

03:43:00.000 And I'm getting a lot of other prominent people.

03:43:01.000 Ron Paul on tomorrow, though his plane almost went down yesterday.

03:43:06.000 He's going to be on tomorrow talking about some other issues.

03:43:09.000 So I'm trying myself in my own little way to get as much heat on the Judiciary Committee as we can.

03:43:14.000 And Congressman, very brave man, our champion up there right now, leading the pack in the fight against tyranny.

03:43:21.000 How do we support you, sir?

03:43:23.000 Well, I think you're already doing it in getting people involved to sign a petition.

03:43:27.000 But, you know, this goes a little bit further.

03:43:29.000 The best defense of a country is an informed citizenry.

03:43:32.000 So people should read the articles, and if there's anything I missed in the 35 articles, I'd be happy to hear from people.

03:43:42.000 And furthermore, if we have discussions around the country on this, if people start getting together in groups and talk and have a Have a discussion.

03:43:53.000 A constitutional caucus is going on everywhere where people talk about what's the meaning of the Constitution?

03:43:59.000 Why should someone who's President of the United States be held accountable to the law?

03:44:03.000 What happens when there are untruths told in a democracy that result in war?

03:44:07.000 What are the consequences?

03:44:08.000 We need a discussion about this because the discussion will increase awareness and increased awareness will help protect our country from tyranny.

03:44:17.000 Absolutely, sir.

03:44:18.000 Can you go over the process and what we're going to be seeing Friday?

03:44:22.000 First of all, I want to say to you, Alex Jones, that you are one of the people who has been keeping the public informed to the point where we've had such a public outcry that the hearings have been brought forward.

03:44:37.000 I don't know that it could have happened without you.

03:44:39.000 Because it's like, unless we get people who are really demanding That an airing of these charges be held, it wouldn't happen.

03:44:39.000 I really mean that.

03:44:47.000 So on Friday, what's going to happen is this.

03:44:51.000 I will present the articles to the committee and talk about why I believe the committee should move to a formal hearing and of course with taking testimony under oath of both the President and the Vice President.

03:45:10.000 I think it's really important For the American people to know once and for all, if in fact there were deliberate lies told that took this country into war.

03:45:21.000 We know now that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction.

03:45:24.000 But people knew back then, in October of 2002, that Iraq didn't have the weapons.

03:45:30.000 They knew that Iraq wasn't a threat. 0.95

03:45:32.000 They knew that Iraq didn't have the intention or capability to attack the United States.

03:45:35.000 It had nothing to do with 9-11 or Al-Qaeda's role in 9-11.

03:45:38.000 And yet they led the people of the United States, and led the Congress in particular, To believe otherwise.

03:45:44.000 And this, to me, constitutes a grave offense.

03:45:46.000 And this is one of the primary reasons why I push this, right to the point of where we finally opened up the doors to the Judiciary Committee, and at which time I'm going to be putting on the table something that everyone said was off the table, articles of impeachment.

03:46:03.000 Well, we're looking at several major issues here, and I'd like you to, as quickly as you can, address those in the time we have, Congressman Kucinich.

03:46:10.000 Who needs to be in all our prayers, ladies and gentlemen.

03:46:12.000 This is very dangerous what he's doing.

03:46:15.000 Needless to say, we all need to be supporting him right now with phone calls, letters to the Judiciary Committee, to their congressmen and women, to the media.

03:46:23.000 A. The media is involved in a huge cover-up of this, other than maybe Keith Oberman mentioning it a little bit.

03:46:30.000 How do we force the mainstream media?

03:46:31.000 I mean, this is thousands of times what Nixon did, and that got major attention, and rightfully so.

03:46:37.000 There is almost a news blackout on what's happening.

03:46:40.000 That's first.

03:46:41.000 And secondarily, we must bring them to justice because they're getting ready to commit more crimes with the attack on Iran. 0.94

03:46:47.000 They've got their talking points out.

03:46:49.000 The word is from Congressman Paul and others and CIA people we know.

03:46:52.000 They are going to hit in October or September, maybe after, if they think McCain's going to be elected.

03:47:00.000 So we're also looking at them committing new crimes that may dwarf the previous ones.

03:47:04.000 Can you speak to both those points?

03:47:06.000 Well, you know, as I hear you speak and I really get chills because I realize the danger that our country's in right now.

03:47:16.000 And not only are we in one war based on manufactured representations, but we are headed towards another.

03:47:25.000 Your listeners right now have a lot of power, and here's what you can do.

03:47:29.000 Get on the phone today and demand that people cover this Judiciary Committee hearing on Friday.

03:47:37.000 You know, it's not as though the media exists in a vacuum.

03:47:39.000 They exist because people watch them.

03:47:42.000 Or listen to them.

03:47:44.000 And if anyone's listening right now and there's a show that you tend to watch, whether it's on the big networks or on the cable networks, call them.

03:47:55.000 Call them today.

03:47:56.000 Call them tomorrow.

03:47:58.000 Tell them there's a Judiciary Committee hearing on Friday in Washington, at which time executive abuse of power is going to be discussed.

03:48:06.000 And at which time Congressman Kucinich will be making a presentation regarding the articles of impeachment.

03:48:15.000 And you think it's important?

03:48:16.000 You, the listener, think it's important?

03:48:19.000 Well, imagine, ladies and gentlemen, I want your take on this, Congressman, how could it not be on every news channel?

03:48:24.000 How could it not be pre-empting the soap operas?

03:48:27.000 I mean, this is huge news.

03:48:29.000 They admit they committed these felonies.

03:48:31.000 There's no debating it from torture to lying about WMDs premeditated.

03:48:36.000 The list goes on and on.

03:48:37.000 35 of these that are open and shut.

03:48:39.000 I mean, we better see this on television.

03:48:42.000 Right now, it looks like we're not going to be unless it's C-SPAN.

03:48:45.000 Well, you know, this is something that really depends on the people.

03:48:49.000 And if the people have a strong enough outcry, I think you can create something that will be different than what the networks are currently planning.

03:48:57.000 Congressman, how were you able to even get it to this point?

03:48:59.000 I mean, they were saying that couldn't be done, and you've done that.

03:49:01.000 I'll say it again, Alex.

03:49:06.000 You're one of the people with your listeners who have helped to raise public awareness to the point of where I think the speaker had to understand that there needed to be an airing, whether or not it would be a formal hearing only on the impeachment articles.

03:49:21.000 I think, you know, the fact that we were able to open the door is a big event.

03:49:25.000 And it gives us, for the first time, a chance to talk about impeachment in front of a congressional committee.

03:49:30.000 I think that it happened because of the people, because everyone started to get involved.

03:49:34.000 And, you know, that gave me a great deal of encouragement to hang in there.

03:49:38.000 But there's a lot of people out there.

03:49:39.000 You know, we've had close to 50,000 people sign that petition.

03:49:43.000 And we have more people who are giving... I just got a box of petitions, just a full box.

03:49:51.000 It weighs about 25 pounds of petitions from all over the country.

03:49:55.000 People who are demanding that the House take action.

03:49:58.000 How do folks sign the petition?

03:49:59.000 They can go to your website, can't they?

03:50:02.000 Yeah, I have a website that I think you already have been talking about.

03:50:05.000 But again, Please, call the media and tell them that they ought to be covering this because this is a matter of public interest.

03:50:15.000 And, you know, at last, this is about our Constitution.

03:50:17.000 This is about whether or not we stay a republic and whether or not we have principles that are bedrock principles that protect our freedoms.

03:50:28.000 Our freedoms are on the line.

03:50:29.000 You cannot stay a free nation.

03:50:32.000 If a government will go to war based on lies, and will raise the budgets of a military to the point of where there isn't room for anything else, and just keep building, and it's not based on the truth, you know, we all will defend our country in a moment of need.

03:50:47.000 It's a responsibility we have.

03:50:50.000 But woe to that person! 1.00

03:50:52.000 Who tells the American people and our soldiers that they gotta go to war, and the fact is they misrepresent the case for the war.

03:51:00.000 Woe to those people, and that's why I brought forward those articles.

03:51:05.000 Well, Congressman, we'll be watching.

03:51:08.000 What time is this scheduled for on Friday?

03:51:11.000 I've been told 10 o'clock is when the committee will start.

03:51:15.000 So, again, I am so grateful for the Alex Jones Show, because you, you know, great Americans.

03:51:24.000 I'm also grateful that Mr. Paul was okay.

03:51:26.000 I saw him on the floor of the House today, and you know, he's a very cool head, and he said, as a former flight surgeon, he kind of understood what happened when there was a decompression.

03:51:34.000 But I'm glad he was okay, because when I heard that some of my colleagues that were on a plane that was in trouble, let me tell you, it gave me a lot of pause.

03:51:40.000 But he's okay, and I'm Looking forward to working with him, not only to reclaim our civil liberties, but to stop a war against Iran. 0.79

03:51:50.000 Congressman, in closing, I know you're a busy man.

03:51:53.000 I'd like to try to get an update next week on what happened Friday from you or from one of your aides, but in closing... No, call me.

03:52:00.000 I'll get back to you at any time.

03:52:00.000 Let's talk, okay?

03:52:02.000 Okay, well, we're accelerating towards the Iran situation.

03:52:05.000 We're going to support the impeachment.

03:52:06.000 Hopefully it's going to go somewhere.

03:52:07.000 I mean, if we can get this out in front of the people, it could certainly be a way of short-circuiting the attack, but looking forward into that, do you think currently They really are still planning to go into Iran or to bomb Iran?

03:52:21.000 Yes.

03:52:22.000 I mean, all the signs that we're seeing would point to that.

03:52:27.000 There was a very important column in the New York Times last week by Benny Morris, who is a professor of Middle East Studies, and it was out of Jerusalem.

03:52:38.000 And he really, more than anything, identified that the period between the inauguration and The, not the inauguration, between the election and the inauguration of the president is the period to keep an eye on for a possible attack.

03:52:58.000 And we know that there are people in Israel who are pushing it.

03:53:01.000 We also know that there are people in the U.S.

03:53:03.000 government who are pushing it.

03:53:04.000 And we have to push back in the cause of peace and justice.

03:53:08.000 And I'm always hopeful that the American people, given the facts and having the awareness, We'll stand up and defend the Constitution, and stop aggressive war, and stop the catastrophe from being visited on the world.

03:53:24.000 Okay, Congressman, the website is Consentage.House.Gov.

03:53:28.000 Well, that's my government website, and of course I have the personal one, which I think you have.

03:53:34.000 Yes.

03:53:36.000 Do you have that one?

03:53:37.000 I've plugged several.

03:53:39.000 There was also the Consentage for President one.

03:53:41.000 Which one should we plug?

03:53:42.000 Well, it's, you know, I'm just letting you know I have a number of different websites.

03:53:45.000 One is the one on the government site that you've identified.

03:53:48.000 Yes.

03:53:48.000 And I have another campaign one.

03:53:50.000 I can't tell you this on the phone, but I'm on.

03:53:52.000 But if you check, I do have a campaign website that you ought to check.

03:53:55.000 I know the ridiculous campaign rules.

03:53:58.000 I'm careful all the time, just so you know. 0.85

03:53:59.000 Absolutely.

03:54:00.000 Well, there's so many of these websites.

03:54:02.000 What I'll do is, before the show ends, I will plug all those.

03:54:05.000 But just Google Dennis Kucinich and you can find them all there.

03:54:10.000 Congressman, thank you for everything.

03:54:11.000 I just want to let you know in closing, I talked to Willie today.

03:54:14.000 A caller called in and said, why don't you guys have an anti-war, you know, anti-attack Iran And Willie said, Alex, you organize it, so I want to invite you and Jesse Ventura now.

03:54:27.000 It'll be in the next few months.

03:54:29.000 It'll probably be in New York or Austin or somewhere like that to have you.

03:54:32.000 It would be great to be there.

03:54:33.000 And of course, you know, since you called him, Willie Nelson is such a great American.

03:54:39.000 And you know, he's somebody who isn't particularly ideological.

03:54:43.000 You know, he really comes from the heartland and wants to do what's right for America.

03:54:50.000 And what a great man he is, and I'm just grateful to be mentioned in the same breath.

03:54:57.000 Thanks again.

03:54:57.000 Absolutely.

03:54:58.000 Thank you, Congressman.

03:54:59.000 Bye now.

03:55:00.000 Be careful, and we're all behind you here.

03:55:02.000 Wow, an amazing interview, ladies and gentlemen.

03:55:05.000 Again, we skipped a break.

03:55:06.000 There were some stations out there that still carried the break.

03:55:08.000 We were talking to him behind the scenes.

03:55:09.000 This will all be posted in the next few hours at PrisonPlanet.tv for all the members, and then it will be posted all over the web.

03:55:16.000 Please help us get this information out to everybody and just so many big developments today.

03:55:24.000 I am going to be Posting up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com in the next hour or so.

03:55:33.000 Big article Kurt Nemo is doing about what happened today with Willie Nelson.

03:55:37.000 If any of you missed that, it's not on the web yet.

03:55:40.000 It's going to be re-aired back-to-back.

03:55:42.000 In fact, he was on the very start of the show.

03:55:44.000 Coming into the show hot.

03:55:46.000 He was actually on at the 8 after.

03:55:49.000 With the most amazing interview I've ever heard with Willie Nelson.

03:55:52.000 I mean, the first two interviews we did were great, but this one was really free-flowing and powerful and just amazing.

03:55:58.000 We took phone calls.

03:55:59.000 It starts on the rebroadcast at InfoWars.com in T-minus about three and a half minutes.

03:56:07.000 And we had Mark Kornke on, we had William Pepper on, we had Of course, St.

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03:56:18.000 I mean, just this, my producer, Trey Kincaid, doing a fabulous job, all trying to fight the new world order here, trying to bring you the best radio we can to inform and uplift and empower you to know what we're really facing and dealing with.

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03:57:41.000 Just absolutely amazing.

03:57:42.000 But again, the next four hours is about to re-air.

03:57:44.000 Kucinich.

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03:57:48.000 Willie Nelson.

03:57:48.000 I told you I was going to call him last week, and I'm on this week, but I forgot this morning.

03:57:51.000 I said, you know, I'll call Willie.

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