Alex Jones Show - 20080724_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 Yes, sir.

00:00:01.000 Twelve after, he'll be ready.

00:00:02.000 All right.

00:00:07.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is coming up in 15 minutes.

00:00:11.000 For TV viewers, we just started transmitting, streaming live for PrisonPlanet.tv members.

00:00:18.000 Folks watching this later as an archive, we had a caller earlier that said, well the Federal Reserve rules over us, it's private, but isn't that what the Bible says we should do?

00:00:25.000 I mean, you know, it's don't stand up against slavery, don't not take the mercury-filled shots, don't not drink the fluoride water, whatever government says is God.

00:00:35.000 And I wanted to call my uncle, who's one of the best Bible scholars I know, William Hammond, and have him comment, but Butch Paw, who's a talk show host right here on the network, a pastor, He's also an expert on this and made some documentaries about it, called in.

00:00:48.000 So we've got this segment and part of the next before Dr. Roberts comes on, because I wanted to address this now.

00:00:53.000 And I wanted to go to my uncle, William.

00:00:57.000 Go ahead and just spend a few minutes giving people verses or try to explain to this person that it's... I mean, I'm not even a Bible expert.

00:01:04.000 The whole Bible is about standing up against tyranny.

00:01:07.000 What's going on with these people?

00:01:09.000 Talk to me Alex, I'm sorry.

00:01:10.000 No, I'm going to go to my uncle first, William.

00:01:12.000 Go ahead, I'll be right here.

00:01:14.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:15.000 All through history, both in the Bible and with most theologians, there's been the concept of just war, just resistance, unjust war, unjust resistance.

00:01:26.000 And the Word of God is pretty clear that wars, just wars, involve defense, whereas unjust wars and unjust resistance involves aggression or open rebellion for rebellion's sake or for material reasons.

00:01:43.000 So, in the Word of God, we see that we're always juggling with this, and we are to obey.

00:01:51.000 Romans 13 has that kernel of truth.

00:01:53.000 However, when the government is clearly violating every single tenet of the Word of God, and that which the Constitution and the nation was established upon, right down to our right to life of our unborn babies, and our right to defend our own lives, then we know That we're bumping up against unjust activity and the activities of an aggressor.

00:02:20.000 There is a scripture that says at the end in the kingdom that the swords will be beaten into plowshares, but there's also an Old Testament scripture calling for a just war that says, beat your plowshares into swords.

00:02:35.000 And Jesus himself said at the very end of his ministry, When he was advising his disciples and his apostles, he said, if you've got two coats, sell one and buy a sword.

00:02:46.000 So he recognized that there was going to be terrible resistance to truth and righteousness, and it wasn't to be taken lying down doing nothing.

00:02:55.000 Okay, now stop there because I'm going to bring you guys back.

00:02:57.000 Butch, give them some verses. 0.90

00:02:59.000 Well, if you go to 2 Kings chapter 11, you'll find in there very clearly where Jehodeah, the high priest of the day, the preacher, the head preacher, dethroned an unjust leader, a queen, and had her killed for daring to strip authority over righteous government.

00:03:14.000 And as your uncle just mentioned, Romans 13 tells us to obey powers, but if you read down in verses 3 and 4, those powers are to be ministers of God to our good.

00:03:25.000 That word ministry, it means deacon.

00:03:27.000 The government itself is to be a deacon to glorify God and edify the good of the people.

00:03:32.000 If it ceases to do good, it ceases to be righteous government, and then we are required, by God's law and His commandments, to resist that evil by all means necessary.

00:03:43.000 And Bush, the whole Bible, I don't know where to start, is about people standing up against evil.

00:03:48.000 Again, the whole Bible is written on Nehemiah chapter 4.

00:03:52.000 It talks about resisting evil.

00:03:55.000 In the Old Testament, Christ, as your uncle said, told his disciples, Luke 22, verse 36, to buy a sword.

00:04:00.000 That wasn't for slicing cheese and cleaning toenails. 0.99

00:04:02.000 That was for fighting with.

00:04:03.000 These are things that are clearly written in the Scriptures, and people have got to quit listening to these manby-pamby pulpit pimps.

00:04:09.000 They're getting paid to tickle their ears. 0.82

00:04:12.000 Understand, we're here to fight evil.

00:04:13.000 We're here to expose it and fight it.

00:04:15.000 Paul wrote Romans 13 from prison.

00:04:18.000 Why was he in prison?

00:04:19.000 For obeying Caesar or for disobeying Caesar?

00:04:22.000 Why did they kill so many of the prophets?

00:04:24.000 Why did they do all that if they were to follow and grovel to government? 0.57

00:04:27.000 And by this extension, the Founding Fathers are bad.

00:04:31.000 Fighting Hitler was bad because it's all of God, isn't it? 0.94

00:04:34.000 Well, if people just take time to look the Bible for what it says and quit trying to weasel away around this, they are accountable for the evil around them.

00:04:43.000 If we are not fighting evil, we're not doing the will of our Father.

00:04:47.000 Well, you're aiding it and the blood is on your hands.

00:04:49.000 I want to talk behind the scenes for the internet listeners right now.

00:04:52.000 We're going to skip this break.

00:04:53.000 Everybody else will be right back.

00:04:54.000 Guys, I know this is on really short notice, but, I mean, it's crazy.

00:05:07.000 All the prophets are being killed, put in prison.

00:05:10.000 They're refusing to do what evil kings say in Israel, outside Israel, Babylon, Egypt.

00:05:15.000 According to them, they should have done what Pharaoh said.

00:05:19.000 They should have done what all of them said.

00:05:22.000 Jesus should have done what the high priest and Herod said.

00:05:26.000 I mean, this is unbelievable, and it's taught Everywhere, to not even warn people, because that's speaking out against the government, to take your shots, let them kill you, do whatever they say.

00:05:38.000 It's insanity, it's unbiblical. 1.00

00:05:40.000 And I'll make one comment, your uncle can talk all he likes to, because this is a point that is so, so important today.

00:05:46.000 That if we render to Caesar what is not Caesar's, on my website, PastorButch.com, there's a three hour video, anybody can watch for free, entitled, Render to Caesar Explained.

00:05:57.000 If we give unto Him what is not His, we make Caesar our God, we deny our God, and hell is our damnation.

00:06:04.000 It's just that simple.

00:06:06.000 And going back to my uncle, do you want to make some more comments here?

00:06:11.000 Well, not only is the Bible on our side, but history is on our side as believers, because in a practical sense, Christianity would not exist today if no resistance had taken place throughout history.

00:06:25.000 Look at what the Romans tried to do to the believers. 1.00

00:06:29.000 It's almost unspeakable.

00:06:30.000 They should have followed what the Emperor said and worshipped Saturn and Mars right there.

00:06:35.000 They are bad, according to what that guy said.

00:06:38.000 They should have made sacrifices for the Roman gods. 1.00

00:06:40.000 Well, the point I just made was that Paul wrote most of the New Testament from prison.

00:06:44.000 He lived in prison for obeying Caesar.

00:06:45.000 He was there because he did not obey Caesar.

00:06:48.000 In Numbers chapter 1, Numbers is called the war book in the Bible.

00:06:52.000 Numbers chapter one is where our forefathers got the idea of a militia, civilian military.

00:06:57.000 This is where our forefathers said we will establish a civilian militia in our country to protect our states and our nation.

00:07:05.000 That's in their Bible.

00:07:06.000 Well let me stop you.

00:07:07.000 Going back to The Founding Fathers, going back to the Bible, Paul was somebody who hunted down and killed Christians until he got knocked off his horse and became Paul from Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus.

00:07:21.000 So there it is that Christians weren't following orders, he was going around hunting them down.

00:07:26.000 Exactly.

00:07:27.000 They were resisting the civil authorities and the church of the day, and the church of the day, very good point, the so-called church, because they would not go along with the customs of the church. 0.82

00:07:38.000 They said this is not right.

00:07:39.000 Christ is the Messiah.

00:07:41.000 They were being persecuted by the church and by the civil authority.

00:07:44.000 And we are today also a percent of the truth.

00:07:46.000 All right, we're going to come back to the main audience in 15 seconds.

00:07:49.000 And so recap other key points.

00:07:52.000 Both of you got about two minutes apiece.

00:07:54.000 On the other side, we'll go back to my uncle, William, and then to you, Butch.

00:07:57.000 Right now, here we go.

00:08:01.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:07.000 Paul himself was Saul of Tarsus, went around hunting down and killing Christians because they wouldn't submit to the civil or the religious authority.

00:08:14.000 And then of course he got knocked off his horse on the way to Damascus, saw the light, was imprisoned.

00:08:20.000 I mean, how did Paul end up?

00:08:22.000 How did the other disciples end up?

00:08:24.000 My uncle, William Hammond, and of course Basher Butchpaw, Genesis Network host at 8 o'clock at 9 central, I want my uncle to have a two-minute closing comment and then Butch, then we're going to get Dr. Paul Gregg Roberts on right now.

00:08:38.000 Thank you.

00:08:39.000 We were looking at the historical perspective and we've come down to the Inquisition, which was a coldly calculated move for about 800 or 900 years to totally wipe out true Christianity.

00:08:51.000 If there had been no resistance, again, Christianity would not exist today. 1.00

00:08:55.000 And moving to the tyranny of the kings of England, had there been no resistance to the kings, There would have been no America because the people came here to found this place looking for freedom of faith.

00:09:08.000 Look at Martin Luther.

00:09:10.000 If he had not been, not Martin Luther King, Martin Luther of the Reformation, if Martin Luther had not been backed by the arms of the German princes, there would have been no Reformation.

00:09:21.000 It would have been swept away in a few days by the papal armies.

00:09:25.000 So there was a lot of resistance there.

00:09:26.000 And finally, I'd like to say That when Jesus comes back, and it's very soon, it's at the door, he's not coming back as a lamb.

00:09:34.000 He's coming back as a Lion of Judah with 10,000 times 10,000 saints with a mighty sword to wipe out his enemies completely at the Battle of Armageddon.

00:09:47.000 I would call that total resistance, wouldn't you, Alex?

00:09:50.000 Amen.

00:09:52.000 I just don't understand, Bush, the groveling, chicken-necked love of tyranny.

00:09:57.000 And they always have the same voice, the same spirit of, oh, the Bible says lay down.

00:10:02.000 And it's just like, oh, they're just like, oh.

00:10:06.000 I mean, what has happened to these people?

00:10:08.000 They have been brainwashed.

00:10:09.000 They are brainwashed. 0.71

00:10:10.000 That's the simplest way I can put it. 0.99

00:10:12.000 They've been brainwashed by their pastors.

00:10:14.000 They do not say the word for themselves.

00:10:17.000 They're also afraid, and they think laying down is going to keep them safe.

00:10:20.000 Well, they're waiting for the rapture.

00:10:23.000 They're waiting.

00:10:23.000 They're not concerned.

00:10:24.000 They don't want to do anything, get involved.

00:10:25.000 They don't want to lose their stuff.

00:10:27.000 They worship the God of this world and their possession more than they worship the Almighty.

00:10:31.000 And I'm telling you again, the damnation is going to be their just reward.

00:10:34.000 But again, as I told you a few minutes ago, that in Numbers chapter 1, our forefathers got the idea of a civilian militia.

00:10:41.000 The 2nd Amendment was given a constitution for us, for the duty for us to overthrow unrighteous leaders.

00:10:46.000 It's our duty, it's not just our right, it's our duty.

00:10:49.000 This is a Christian duty to glorify our God all through history.

00:10:54.000 All through history, the battle has always been for mankind to overthrow unjust tyrants for the sake of freedom.

00:11:02.000 And Christ came to give us all freedom, for where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

00:11:07.000 And until we stand, and there's liberty, until we stand for that, as men and women who defy men who try to be gods, we do not deserve freedom.

00:11:16.000 We deserve what we're getting.

00:11:18.000 Absolutely.

00:11:19.000 God help the people that don't understand it, because I promise you, payday's coming.

00:11:23.000 I hear you.

00:11:23.000 Gentlemen, thanks for joining us.

00:11:25.000 And that really is, thank you, that really is the crux of the problem, that you have tens of billions of dollars, 26,000 now, they're done a double that number by next year, FEMA pastors, we told you this one was secret, it's now public, trained to tell their flocks, turn your guns in, go to FEMA camps, let the government take your children.

00:11:43.000 I mean, this is right out of Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, and that's why, one of the main reasons we can't get this country moving, Is that the churches are bought and paid for by these corporate interests and are out there spewing the line of this government.

00:12:00.000 And I am just completely blown away by it.

00:12:03.000 Every time one of those people calls in and says, if you're a Christian, you're supposed to not stand up against tyranny.

00:12:09.000 And it's just totally crazy.

00:12:11.000 Number one, I had a financial guest on, talking about financial news, and this guy calls in saying, you know, we basically shouldn't even criticize the Federal Reserve.

00:12:19.000 Because God says don't.

00:12:20.000 I mean, I just can't handle this anymore.

00:12:22.000 I mean, it's just so crazy. 0.98

00:12:25.000 Now, if you want to go off in a ditch and be a slave, go ahead. 0.98

00:12:28.000 Just get out of my way. 0.99

00:12:29.000 Get behind me.

00:12:31.000 Do we have Dr. Roberts?

00:12:33.000 He's all set.

00:12:33.000 Okay, thank you so much.

00:12:36.000 Got late today with our guest.

00:12:37.000 I appreciate all the guests moving back ten minutes, because Ron Paul was going to be on earlier.

00:12:40.000 He had to move it to the middle of another interview, so that is why we're a little bit behind.

00:12:44.000 I'm very honored to have former Wall Street Journal Associate Editor, best-selling author, the father of Reaganomics, head of policy, Department of Treasury.

00:12:53.000 That was number two under Ronald Reagan, and syndicated columnist with a great syndicated column group out there.

00:13:00.000 You can just simply Google the name Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and see his stuff in hundreds of great publications.

00:13:07.000 Liberal, conservative, libertarian, anybody who is informed reads Dr. Roberts' columns that come out several times a week and we link to those over at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and his second edition The tyranny of good intentions is out, and I hope everybody will get it.

00:13:23.000 And he's with us for the rest of the hour, and we're going to be taking your phone calls at the bottom of the hour at 1-800-259-9231.

00:13:30.000 So much has happened since he was last with us a few weeks ago.

00:13:33.000 Dr. Roberts, thanks for coming on.

00:13:35.000 Hello, Alex.

00:13:37.000 Hey, just a side issue before we get into the economy and Conyers blocking a real impeachment hearing coming up this Friday.

00:13:46.000 We had Kucinich on yesterday.

00:13:47.000 What do you think of all these mainline Christians that call into shows, I'm sure you've heard them, I know you've written about them, saying, do whatever government says, Romans 13, don't fight tyranny, torture's good, kill all the Iraqis, it's of the Lord. 0.98

00:14:01.000 Now they're getting so crazy, Pastor Hagee saying Jesus isn't even the Savior.

00:14:06.000 I mean, I know you don't get into religious stuff, but the point is, it's really getting wacky right now. 0.93

00:14:11.000 Oh yeah, what passes for evangelical Christianity is a far more barbaric and warlike religion than what they claim Islam is. 0.99

00:14:25.000 So I see these people as a great threat to humanity. 0.97

00:14:30.000 They're certainly not Christians. 0.98

00:14:31.000 There's nothing Christian about them. 1.00

00:14:33.000 They're thugs. 1.00

00:14:34.000 They want to murder women and children and drop nukes on people that they don't even know. 1.00

00:14:38.000 I don't know what to make of it. 0.99

00:14:42.000 It sounds like that they're about as crazy as that sect that went down there, whatever it was, Jonathan Jones.

00:14:51.000 Well, I mean, we hear this mantra.

00:14:57.000 In fact, I even heard a guy on the network yesterday on another show saying that Ahmadinejad wants nuclear war, has a bomb, is going to nuke Israel, Israel's defenseless.

00:15:07.000 Well, how does he know anything like that?

00:15:09.000 He obviously doesn't have any information.

00:15:12.000 Saying whatever comes into his head.

00:15:14.000 Well, that's my question.

00:15:15.000 Pat Robertson got up yesterday, we have the clip, and said they're going to get the A-bomb, Israel has to hit them, it's of the Lord, and this is the same group that lied about Iraq. 0.80

00:15:24.000 It's of the Lord.

00:15:26.000 Look, Alex, these are not Christians. 1.00

00:15:28.000 These are murderers and liars. 1.00

00:15:30.000 They're thugs. 1.00

00:15:32.000 They're worse than the Nazis. 1.00

00:15:34.000 They're not Christians. 1.00

00:15:36.000 There's nothing Christian or religious about them. 1.00

00:15:41.000 They're thugs. 1.00

00:15:42.000 Murderers. 1.00

00:15:43.000 Liars. 1.00

00:15:45.000 They're a great threat to the continued existence of life on Earth. 0.99

00:15:51.000 No, I agree with you.

00:15:52.000 I'm saying, I understand the kingpins are just manipulating their minions and are secular, but my point is, how do they get all these little church ladies to just be complete pea brains? 0.99

00:16:02.000 It's mind control. 0.97

00:16:03.000 Because they're pea brains to start with.

00:16:07.000 Look, Alex, never forget.

00:16:09.000 That at least half the population is under the left side of the bell curve.

00:16:15.000 And I sometimes think, Alex, that the entire American population is under the left side of the bell curve.

00:16:25.000 Well, there's no doubt that we've had it too good, too long, and they just have no idea the dark waters are swimming in.

00:16:31.000 So, Alex, it's part of getting the population ready for the assault on Iran. 0.98

00:16:39.000 This is Israel's... Look, everybody who's knowledgeable and informed knows that Israel has turned down.

00:16:46.000 It's now on the decline.

00:16:48.000 The United States is on the decline.

00:16:49.000 In fact, we're totally dependent now on the Chinese to finance the daily operation of our own government.

00:16:56.000 So we're both on the decline.

00:16:58.000 Our power is evaporating before our eyes. 0.96

00:17:01.000 Israel has twice been defeated by the Hezbollah militia, the famed And Marble Israeli Army got its ass kicked twice, driven out of Lebanon by a few thousand militia. 0.95

00:17:17.000 The power's on the decline. 0.74

00:17:19.000 This is their last chance.

00:17:21.000 Bush, assuming he doesn't pull a fast one, will be gone in six months.

00:17:26.000 So right now they got their finger on the button.

00:17:30.000 And they're going to push and push and push and try to get the situation where Their attack on Iran will be tolerated. 0.76

00:17:43.000 And so that's what they're using the churches for.

00:17:46.000 They've got all this out into the churches there.

00:17:50.000 And that's what it's all about.

00:17:51.000 I agree with you.

00:17:51.000 And Ray McGovern, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, the list is legion, all say that they are going to attack.

00:17:58.000 Ron Paul says in Congress it's a done deal.

00:18:01.000 They're going to attack.

00:18:03.000 If Obama gets elected, they're going to attack right after the election.

00:18:07.000 If McCain gets elected, it'll be right when he gets in office.

00:18:10.000 Probably a staged terror attack to bring that in.

00:18:15.000 Yeah.

00:18:15.000 Well, I don't know if they'll get away with it.

00:18:18.000 But I certainly agree that that's what they want to do.

00:18:22.000 Your idea, sir, to stop this, is there any way to stop the total destruction of our country?

00:18:30.000 Well, I don't think that they're sane.

00:18:35.000 I don't think that they live in a factual reality.

00:18:41.000 So, I think that if they want to do it bad enough, they'll fool themselves with But they can't.

00:18:51.000 But I think it will leave, it will accelerate the collapse of American power and Israeli power. 1.00

00:19:00.000 And if we think that our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the Israeli bombings of the civilian Lebanese population and their murders in Gaza and the West Bank have radicalized Muslims, just wait. 0.65

00:19:18.000 Until we nuke Iran. 1.00

00:19:20.000 And then, most likely, all of our puppets will fall in the Middle East. 1.00

00:19:27.000 Israel will probably be exterminated. 0.64

00:19:31.000 Americans won't be able to borrow a dime.

00:19:35.000 They'll have to close down most of the government.

00:19:37.000 They can't finance it.

00:19:38.000 I mean, it can be a catastrophic result.

00:19:42.000 And Satan laughing will spread his wings.

00:19:44.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, stay there.

00:19:46.000 Amazing analysis.

00:19:48.000 Come back and hear more from him.

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00:20:00.000 Have you ever felt like the United States government was worried too much about your finances?

00:20:04.000 Likely all of our puppets will fall in the Middle East. 1.00

00:20:08.000 Israel will probably be exterminated. 0.80

00:20:12.000 Americans won't be able to bar a dime. 0.77

00:20:15.000 They'll have to close down most of the government to pay for the answers.

00:20:20.000 I mean, it can be a catastrophic result.

00:20:23.000 And Satan laughing will spread his wings.

00:20:26.000 Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, stay there.

00:20:28.000 Amazing analysis.

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00:23:38.000 Imagine if I'd come to you a couple of years ago and said to you, hey, gasoline prices are going to jump to $5 a gallon, and I know a way that we can store several hundred gallons for you, a year or two supply of gasoline, buy it today at $2 a gallon, And when it goes to $5 a gallon, you'll be way buy it today at $2 a gallon, And when it goes to $5 a And you probably at the time would have said to me, you're nuts, get away, you're crazy, go bye-bye! 0.87

00:24:02.000 And okay, fine, now I'm telling you what's happened to gasoline is happening to food, your grocery bills. 0.88

00:24:09.000 We've got to do our duty.

00:24:10.000 Consequence belongs to God.

00:24:12.000 We've got to try to warn people what this war is going to mean.

00:24:14.000 The economy to our name. 0.92

00:24:18.000 The military, I'm seeing mainline reports where the transport planes are full of garbage. 0.59

00:24:24.000 The seats are all falling apart.

00:24:25.000 Meanwhile, the Air Force and Army fly in luxury aircraft.

00:24:29.000 There's cockroaches and rats and a whole bunch of the major VAs. 1.00

00:24:34.000 Toilets overflowing at Bragg.

00:24:36.000 I'm talking to Army people saying they never see anything like it.

00:24:39.000 That the bases are falling apart.

00:24:41.000 I mean, it really looks like the government has gone completely insane, Dr. Roberts.

00:24:46.000 Well, it not only looks like it, it's a fact.

00:24:50.000 Thank you.

00:24:52.000 You won't get any argument out of me on that score, Alex.

00:24:58.000 I think that's another important sign of just the disconnect from reality we're seeing in the power structure, Dr. Roberts.

00:25:06.000 Well, don't you know they bragged on how disconnected they were?

00:25:12.000 They would create the reality and we'd have to go find out what it was.

00:25:17.000 So they don't accept any limits.

00:25:21.000 They think they're omnipotent.

00:25:25.000 And it's so hilarious, because these are the guys that can't occupy Baghdad. 0.67

00:25:31.000 These are the guys that have to allow the Chinese to pay their salaries, and lend us money to pay Social Security wealth, and lend us money to buy fuel for the planes we use to bomb Civilians in the Middle East and Africa and wherever. 0.99

00:25:51.000 And yet they think they're omnipotent. 0.98

00:25:55.000 We already decided, didn't we, that they were insane.

00:25:59.000 So, of course, that means they're a huge danger to us.

00:26:03.000 What is the best course of action to try to stop this from happening, or if it's going to happen, what do you think people should do?

00:26:09.000 I don't think people, short of taking up arms and doing what Thomas Jefferson said that we needed to do every 200 years, And of course, he lived in a time of very slow change.

00:26:22.000 So 200 years, he would probably shorten that if he was around today.

00:26:28.000 Other than, you know, overthrowing the government, starting over, there's nothing we can do because they don't listen to us.

00:26:34.000 The people don't count.

00:26:37.000 Bush has made it clear there's no interest in public opinion.

00:26:41.000 The Democrats aren't either.

00:26:42.000 I mean, the electorate tried to stop it when we elected the Democrats in 2006, and the Democrats did nothing.

00:26:53.000 They've not used the power.

00:26:55.000 Why do you think Conyers and Pelosi are blocking any impeachment?

00:26:58.000 Fear?

00:26:59.000 Paid off money.

00:27:01.000 They've been bought.

00:27:04.000 Somebody's put, you know, 10, 20, 30 million dollars on the account somewhere for them.

00:27:09.000 That's my view of it.

00:27:10.000 I mean, I can't prove that.

00:27:11.000 Nobody can prove it. 0.99

00:27:14.000 I think they're all balls. 0.99

00:27:15.000 They're not any sincere people. 0.99

00:27:17.000 Who do we know that's sincere in politics?

00:27:19.000 Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich.

00:27:22.000 And Ron Paul almost died a few days ago.

00:27:24.000 I'm sure you heard about that.

00:27:25.000 No, I didn't.

00:27:26.000 The depressurization and nosedive of the aircraft?

00:27:29.000 No, I didn't know about that.

00:27:30.000 With seven congressmen on board?

00:27:32.000 Well, maybe that was a warning.

00:27:38.000 Listen, I don't want to get too conspiratorial.

00:27:42.000 And I don't want to get people too, you know, down and give up.

00:27:46.000 But I think we've reached the point now where it's out of our hands.

00:27:50.000 The question really is how the rising powers view this.

00:27:55.000 The rising powers are China, Russia, India.

00:28:01.000 In 20 years, they'll rule the world.

00:28:03.000 We'll be nothing.

00:28:05.000 And the question is how will they view this?

00:28:10.000 Do the Russians want radioactivity on their borders?

00:28:15.000 Do the Chinese want all their energy investments destroyed in Iran?

00:28:24.000 Do the Europeans want this with their large Muslim populations who will probably be radicalized by it? 0.97

00:28:34.000 And whether or not any of them do anything, and whether they all say, well, look, let's just let the fools go ahead, because this is the best way to get rid of America. 0.98

00:28:41.000 Well, that's what the Russians are saying. 1.00

00:28:43.000 They're saying, go ahead, fools. 1.00

00:28:45.000 Yeah, I think maybe that's... I think that's what the Chinese decided, that rather than interfere and get in a conflict with us that might re-energize us in some other way, They'll just let us go on dry doom. 1.00

00:29:02.000 You know, nobody tried to stop Hitler from marching into Germany.

00:29:07.000 When he did that, the British Churchill said, well, now we've won.

00:29:11.000 So, I don't think anybody will stop us in order to save the Iranians, because they haven't got anything against the Iranians, but they've got a lot against us. 1.00

00:29:22.000 And if we self-destruct, it's easier.

00:29:26.000 Yeah, they don't like us anyhow.

00:29:27.000 I mean, we're always bossing people around, criticizing them for sins that are a fraction of our own sins.

00:29:34.000 Dr. Roberts, stay there.

00:29:37.000 Okay, stay there with us.

00:29:40.000 We're gonna come right back and finish up how you see this unfolding and taking phone calls.

00:29:45.000 Stay with us.

00:29:50.000 We're on the Valley 1.

00:29:53.000 So, I don't think anybody We'll stop us in order to save the Iranians, because they haven't got anything against the Iranians, but they got a lot against us. 0.99

00:30:03.000 And if we self-destruct, it's easier for them.

00:30:08.000 They don't like us anyhow.

00:30:09.000 I mean, we're always bossing people around, criticizing them for sins that are a fraction of our own sins.

00:30:16.000 Dr. Roberts, stay there.

00:30:19.000 Okay, stay there with us.

00:30:20.000 We're gonna come right back and finish up how you see this unfolding.

00:30:25.000 And, uh, taking phone calls, stay with us.

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00:33:08.000 We're going to be on your phone calls here in about five minutes.

00:33:11.000 I wanted to first get, Dr. Roberts is an expert on the economy.

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00:33:22.000 And of course, he added up the Department of the Treasury policy.

00:33:25.000 He called the shots there.

00:33:27.000 Really honored that he spent so much time with us and we appreciate that.

00:33:30.000 Your call is coming up in a moment after I ask him where he thinks the economy is currently with these bank runs and commodities and the rest of it.

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00:35:56.000 Dr. Roberts, briefly, because I want to go to calls while we have you for people who want to talk to you.

00:36:02.000 The economy, give us a rundown with your expertise on the current state of affairs and where you see it going.

00:36:08.000 Okay, Alex, you know, the situation is different than ever before.

00:36:12.000 These financial instruments are different.

00:36:15.000 The risks that people have taken are much greater.

00:36:19.000 The damage is far more widespread.

00:36:23.000 Most likely outcome, in my opinion, we're going to have an inflationary recession.

00:36:30.000 A serious recession.

00:36:33.000 Inflationary, not deflationary.

00:36:37.000 Because the Federal Reserve is going to supply the liquidity to make whole all of these bad investments.

00:36:48.000 And therefore, there's going to be an outpouring of money.

00:36:52.000 But it's going to have literally no effect in raising employment.

00:36:57.000 So we're going to have high inflation, high unemployment.

00:37:00.000 It's going to be a very difficult situation to get out of because the policy levers just don't exist to deal with that kind of catastrophe.

00:37:12.000 It's amazing that the government of the United States was capable of producing such an unholy mess.

00:37:21.000 Well, you think.

00:37:22.000 It wasn't that long ago that we had a very strong economy.

00:37:27.000 Reagan gave us back the economy.

00:37:29.000 We were growing without rising inflation.

00:37:34.000 Everything was fine.

00:37:34.000 It was just completely wrecked.

00:37:37.000 And they've now got a situation, as I said, that I think will be an inflationary recession that they will have no way to get out of.

00:37:48.000 So, It's not good.

00:37:53.000 Nothing good.

00:37:55.000 There's no leadership.

00:37:57.000 There's no awareness.

00:37:59.000 They're full of hubris.

00:38:01.000 They still think they're a superpower.

00:38:05.000 What can you do?

00:38:07.000 Isn't that, historically, the worst combination?

00:38:10.000 To have a retracting, contracting economy while you have inflation going into hyperinflation?

00:38:16.000 Or is there any other... Oh, so it is the worst?

00:38:19.000 That is the worst.

00:38:20.000 You nailed it, Alex.

00:38:21.000 You nailed it.

00:38:22.000 That is the worst situation, and there's no obvious remedy.

00:38:30.000 In fact, the remedy is so serious, difficult, and imposes such cost that people shy away from it.

00:38:41.000 Well, isn't that it?

00:38:41.000 We have an infantile public that can't deal with interest rate hikes, or with tariffs, or with other things, or with investment in manufacturing.

00:38:49.000 They want things that are instant.

00:38:51.000 And so instead, they're going to give us kind of the morphine, putting us into a coma, and then economic death, collapse?

00:38:59.000 Yeah, I think people are not going to be able to afford anything.

00:39:03.000 They're not going to have income.

00:39:04.000 The government is going to pay its bills by printing money.

00:39:10.000 This great unipower will disappear off the face of the earth really quick.

00:39:16.000 People have no idea how vulnerable we are.

00:39:18.000 You know, the United States trade deficit is larger than the combined trade deficits of every other country in the world that's in deficit position.

00:39:32.000 This is extraordinary.

00:39:33.000 Our budget deficit is larger than the annual budget deficit of the government.

00:39:39.000 Then the combined budget debits of every other country in the world.

00:39:42.000 Okay, let me ask you this question.

00:39:44.000 Alex, we finance these by foreigners lending us the money.

00:39:49.000 And then there's no industry to have the money to buy goods anymore, so it's going to cause a worldwide problem, isn't it?

00:39:55.000 We've got nothing to sell.

00:39:56.000 We've got nothing to sell to close the trade debt.

00:39:59.000 And now that they've run up the oil price so much, the trade debit must be somewhere over a trillion dollars.

00:40:08.000 I mean, it was seven, eight hundred billion back when the oil price was, what, thirty dollars?

00:40:15.000 Let me ask you this.

00:40:18.000 It's got to be, the trade deficit must be somewhere around a trillion dollars.

00:40:23.000 And the only way we pay for that is by turning over the ownership of our existing assets.

00:40:28.000 And that's happening now?

00:40:30.000 That's been happening.

00:40:31.000 So now we're going to start giving them, instead of giving them seven, eight hundred billion dollars a year of what we have, A trillion dollars.

00:40:37.000 That's our companies, you know, all the natural resources, we're selling the toll roads to them, so they get the revenues from toll roads, the real estate, anything we can offer them.

00:40:52.000 How long until all that runs out?

00:40:56.000 It wouldn't last very long.

00:40:57.000 A trillion dollars a year runs through wealth pretty fast.

00:41:02.000 Even for a country that's, you know, It's been successful and accumulated.

00:41:07.000 So this brings a new meaning to the word, looted.

00:41:09.000 Looted, yeah.

00:41:13.000 We thought we were so smart, we were looting the world, getting all their goods, getting them to finance us and handing them paper.

00:41:20.000 But the paper comes back and buys up our assets.

00:41:23.000 The only question is, will the paper collapse completely before they can buy it all up?

00:41:29.000 In a way that might be good.

00:41:30.000 Last question, we're going to go to calls.

00:41:33.000 They are announcing, and it's in the housing bill, and I've got the bill right here, we had Ron Paul on about it today, that every credit card transaction will instantly be uploaded to the IRS.

00:41:43.000 Major gas companies, ABC News reports, are going to make you register with a credit card to be able to buy gas, to track everything you're doing.

00:41:50.000 They're hiring more police, more checkpoints, more tickets.

00:41:55.000 Newborn baby will be visited by CPS.

00:41:58.000 That bill is about to pass.

00:42:00.000 Turning carbon taxes, harassment.

00:42:02.000 Government is just, as you know, tripled in the last eight years.

00:42:05.000 It just seems to be about to divide again and get even bigger like a bacterial infection.

00:42:11.000 and they just seem to just giggle and laugh and put black uniforms on and wave tasers at us and put up more cameras and just cackle and put skulls on the sides of police armored vehicles.

00:42:23.000 I mean, it seems like total mental meltdown.

00:42:26.000 It appears like when cancer is racing through the body right before death.

00:42:32.000 I mean, is that what you see this as? 1.00

00:42:33.000 What's going to happen to all the thugs and all the scum and all the... 1.00

00:42:37.000 They'll all have badges. 1.00

00:42:38.000 They'll all have badges.

00:42:40.000 You know, there's no reason for any of this to happen, and we certainly don't have any money to pay for it.

00:42:48.000 Thank you.

00:42:49.000 And the Chinese aren't going to keep lending them all this money.

00:42:52.000 You know, I just don't know.

00:42:53.000 If it's really going to be something like that, I think people should just leave the country.

00:43:00.000 They should just get out.

00:43:01.000 Well, that's what your book is about.

00:43:02.000 I mean, what is it now?

00:43:04.000 I mean, what are they making?

00:43:05.000 I mean, that's what they're setting up.

00:43:08.000 Well, what is the point of this?

00:43:10.000 uh... credit card business and and all of them purchases going to the government and investing every child is born by child protect what is the point of all this?

00:43:22.000 I mean, what purpose does that serve?

00:43:25.000 Total control!

00:43:27.000 Just to intimidate people, huh?

00:43:29.000 Well then, then what they'll do is they'll alienate everyone from the government.

00:43:36.000 I don't know if that's good for them or not.

00:43:37.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:43:38.000 It's like Well, I've got an ABC News report.

00:43:43.000 We don't have time to play it today.

00:43:44.000 You know what, John?

00:43:45.000 Cue it up to the part.

00:43:47.000 This is ABC News.

00:43:48.000 I just want to play like 30 seconds of this before you leave us.

00:43:51.000 After we take some calls.

00:43:52.000 You know the one I sent you about the airport screeners?

00:43:54.000 And it talks about, you know, a World War II vet with a metal knee.

00:44:01.000 And they pulled his pants down in front of everybody.

00:44:04.000 Oh, I saw that.

00:44:04.000 I sent you that.

00:44:06.000 Oh great, well that's why it's on our website, thank you.

00:44:08.000 And then they start beating their chest going, I HAVE POWER!

00:44:12.000 I HAVE POWER! 0.90

00:44:13.000 And then like just grabbing young women's breasts and just, and like a woman asks a question so they just punch her and knock her over. 0.52

00:44:19.000 I mean, and I had that happen to me at LAX.

00:44:21.000 They started making fun of me and saying my feet stunk and I just had a shower, they were new shoes, they didn't.

00:44:26.000 And these guys are standing over me saying, you got a problem?

00:44:28.000 You want to make a move?

00:44:29.000 I mean this is, you want to comment on that?

00:44:31.000 I HAVE POWER!

00:44:33.000 I HAVE POWER!

00:44:35.000 Well, I recently wrote a column, I think, about the airport, the stopover.

00:44:38.000 I think it's about two columns back.

00:44:41.000 And if you have any callers waiting, we should take them.

00:44:45.000 And if you don't, we'll keep talking.

00:44:46.000 Oh no, we have loaded phones, but I want to get your take on the I have power comment.

00:44:53.000 Well, those kinds of occupations, police, airport security, any of that stuff, attract sociopaths. 0.54

00:45:02.000 Peon sociopaths.

00:45:05.000 They don't attract good people. 0.98

00:45:07.000 They attract people that want to abuse people, but they ain't got enough guts to go join the Marines and actually have to go somewhere and get shot back at.

00:45:16.000 So they like to have power where their victims are powerless. 0.99

00:45:22.000 So they're cowards. 0.97

00:45:24.000 They know it. 1.00

00:45:25.000 All bullies are cowards. 0.99

00:45:28.000 And so it's this massive bureaucracy that protects them. 0.99

00:45:34.000 So that's the kind of people that take those jobs.

00:45:37.000 When you create those kinds of jobs, you're creating homes, places, employment for those kinds of people.

00:45:46.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:45:47.000 John, do you have that queued up yet?

00:45:48.000 I have the power comment.

00:45:51.000 I'm trying to find it.

00:45:52.000 Okay, great.

00:45:53.000 We'll play in a few minutes.

00:45:54.000 Let's go to calls.

00:45:55.000 We're going to skip this break, too.

00:45:56.000 David in Florida, you're on the air with Dr. Paul Greg Roberts.

00:45:59.000 Thanks for holding.

00:46:00.000 How are you doing?

00:46:01.000 Good.

00:46:01.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:46:03.000 I'm really thankful for what you do.

00:46:04.000 I mean, you don't even know.

00:46:07.000 I'm calling because I heard, I just checked out this guy named Jeff Rents last night, and he had a guy named Benjamin Fulford, and he's some big-wig Forbes guy or something.

00:46:18.000 Yeah, talking about how the Asian elites are sick of the New World Order and done with us. 1.00

00:46:22.000 Yeah, and like they have a hit on...

00:46:25.000 They're ready to die on August 8th if they don't calm down.

00:46:28.000 Yeah, I don't know about that, but Fulford did write for Forbes and he says that the Asian Mafia, which is basically the heads of the Chinese and Japanese governments, are threatening the New World Order.

00:46:39.000 I appreciate your call.

00:46:40.000 That's speculative, so we don't go there, but Dr. Roberts, we know in reality the Chinese and others are saying that they're dumb of all this. 0.98

00:46:49.000 Yeah, I think they're dumb of all this, but they're the rising powers. 0.98

00:46:53.000 Yeah, they don't need to act like a bunch. 0.98

00:46:55.000 It'll happen in our lifetime.

00:46:57.000 George in Indiana, you're on the air with Dr. Roberts.

00:46:59.000 Go ahead.

00:47:02.000 Thanks, Dr. Roberts.

00:47:03.000 You and Alex are doing a great job.

00:47:04.000 I've got two or three comments, and real quick ones that I have a question for you.

00:47:08.000 Go, go, go.

00:47:09.000 I went to Burger King yesterday to get me a fish sandwich, and on the drive-thru window, now it says no video filming or picture taking.

00:47:17.000 I'm going to go in there and tell that manager I'm never eating there again until that comes down.

00:47:20.000 Well, I want to explain.

00:47:21.000 They're going to surveil us, but then we can't surveil them back.

00:47:24.000 And I've got tons of videos of cops walking up on city streets telling people don't take camp shots.

00:47:29.000 Again, it's just more martial law.

00:47:31.000 What's the other comment?

00:47:32.000 Absolutely.

00:47:34.000 On this guy that thinks he follows the Christian attitude, The second commandment says, make no image of heaven or earth or bound down to it. 0.90

00:47:41.000 You see crosses everywhere.

00:47:42.000 These people don't understand what they're worshiping.

00:47:45.000 In Florida, there's a guy that says he is Jesus and the Antichrist.

00:47:48.000 Putting 666 on people and they're following him around.

00:47:50.000 Do you have any questions for Dr. Roberts?

00:47:52.000 Because that's why we open the phones up.

00:47:55.000 Another thing.

00:47:56.000 Our government is not a department of offense.

00:48:00.000 It's a department of defense.

00:48:01.000 We shouldn't be attacking people with no provocation.

00:48:04.000 What I want to ask you guys though is Explain to everybody out there what it means when it says that those are with Israel, God is with them, those are against Israel, God is against them.

00:48:15.000 Explain what that really means.

00:48:16.000 Well, I mean, it's not in the Bible.

00:48:18.000 The prophets were coming and saying when Israel was bad and was going to go into exile.

00:48:21.000 It's just made up, and it makes the Christian religion now Israel worship. 0.94

00:48:25.000 Dr. Roberts?

00:48:26.000 Well, I think you nailed it.

00:48:31.000 I mean, I agree with you, Alex.

00:48:32.000 It's just mindless cult worship.

00:48:33.000 I mean, it's insane.

00:48:36.000 And Israel doesn't like the Christian faith in the government, so they have Hagee say Jesus is not Jesus.

00:48:41.000 I mean, and they say, alright, he's bad.

00:48:43.000 I mean, you know, these people will do anything they're told, folks.

00:48:46.000 I mean, Hagee could dress up in a devil outfit and say, you know, have Anton LaVey in, and they'd bow down. 0.58

00:48:51.000 Who's up next?

00:48:52.000 George or Steve here?

00:48:54.000 Steve in Ohio.

00:48:56.000 You're on the air.

00:48:56.000 Go ahead with Dr. Roberts.

00:48:57.000 Any economic questions?

00:48:59.000 Hey, how's it going, Alex?

00:48:59.000 Mr. Roberts?

00:49:02.000 I got a question.

00:49:02.000 Did any of you guys see that speech by George Bush that he addressed?

00:49:06.000 He was actually addressing the nation and he more or less informed us that our country wasn't going to be the industrial power that it used to be.

00:49:16.000 We're moving toward data processing and service-oriented industries.

00:49:21.000 You guys remember seeing that?

00:49:23.000 Yes.

00:49:24.000 That's what we see now, right?

00:49:26.000 We see the destruction of manufacturing and all these large corporations in this country disappear.

00:49:32.000 It didn't happen by accident. 1.00

00:49:33.000 Dr. Roberts, you know, thinks that they just are a bunch of idiots, and I agree they are delusional, but they're engineering this. 1.00

00:49:39.000 I mean, they know what they're doing, don't they, Dr. Roberts? 1.00

00:49:42.000 It's not just manufacturing jobs, either.

00:49:46.000 It's all the data processing jobs, all the computer software jobs.

00:49:51.000 It's any A job that's tradable, that is, that doesn't have to be done hands-on, like a barber or a dentist or awaiting a table or fixing a drink.

00:50:02.000 You don't make a living at that job.

00:50:05.000 The reason they're doing it is because it dramatically lowers their cost of production and they then can pay themselves a multi-million dollar It's a short-term thing for them, but does destroy the goose that lays the golden eggs.

00:50:27.000 What happens when China calls in their loans?

00:50:30.000 What happens when they stop taking American dollars?

00:50:34.000 The government can't pay its bills any longer.

00:50:37.000 The U.S.

00:50:38.000 government can't pay its bills if the Chinese don't buy its paper.

00:50:45.000 And that's why they're setting up work brigades and the million-man youth corps.

00:50:48.000 Did you see Obama, Dr. Roberts, say that he wants a million-man teenagers spying on the American people last week?

00:50:56.000 I didn't see that.

00:50:58.000 Well, then he's just now part of the problem.

00:51:01.000 Isn't he?

00:51:01.000 I mean, all this stuff about change.

00:51:04.000 It sounds like the only change he's going to bring is for the worse.

00:51:08.000 Well, now he's out talking the line of warmongering.

00:51:11.000 I mean, we know he's handled by the same crew.

00:51:15.000 That's right.

00:51:17.000 I totally agree.

00:51:18.000 It's the same crew.

00:51:20.000 And what we mustn't overlook, though, is the United States is no longer the powerhouse that they think it is.

00:51:29.000 Well, like you said, this isn't like a man who beats his wife every night with a tire iron, and she's finally leaving, and he really tries to intimidate her when she's got everything loaded up, and he pulls a gun out and threatens to shoot her.

00:51:41.000 I mean, I think we've gotten to that point.

00:51:43.000 Would you agree with that analogy?

00:51:45.000 Well, if we pull a gun on China or Russia, we're going to get our clocks clean. 0.70

00:51:51.000 So, of course, that's what McCain wants to do.

00:51:54.000 Apparently.

00:51:55.000 And that's what the Neocons do. 1.00

00:51:56.000 McCain has the body language of a lunatic. 0.99

00:51:59.000 Would you agree with that? 1.00

00:51:59.000 I mean, he acts like... I mean, if I knew that guy in business, I would think he had a screw loose. 1.00

00:52:04.000 I think they call it testosterone poisoning.

00:52:08.000 I think that's the psychological term for McCain.

00:52:12.000 Testosterone poisoning. 0.65

00:52:18.000 Yeah, he's definitely got to screw loose.

00:52:20.000 Thank you, Steve.

00:52:21.000 Todd in Ohio, you're on the air.

00:52:27.000 Go ahead, Todd.

00:52:28.000 Hey, how's it going?

00:52:29.000 I just wanted to call in and make the point, it's funny how the people that are saying that you should follow the government and do whatever they say, they say follow those laws, are the same ones that actually reject the laws of God, but they say you've got to follow man's laws, but don't follow God's laws.

00:52:45.000 Does that make any sense?

00:52:46.000 No, no, that's right.

00:52:46.000 They're the funny Christians that go out and have abortions and get, you know, get divorced five or six times.

00:52:51.000 And I'm not even judging those people. 0.70

00:52:52.000 The point is, they're the ones that do that, and they're the ones that'll steal from you in business.

00:52:57.000 I mean, I grew up around a bunch of big Dallas preachers in the neighborhood I lived in.

00:53:00.000 You know, upper middle class.

00:53:01.000 My dad.

00:53:03.000 And I saw him partying, and I saw him with the hookers next door, and I saw him with all the... And I'd see him on TV the next, you know, the next day on Sunday on Dallas television. 0.81

00:53:11.000 Dr. Roberts, you're giggling.

00:53:16.000 Well, listen, I think on the whole, the question is open whether or not there is a Christian religion.

00:53:25.000 Maybe there's still something left in the Catholic Church.

00:53:28.000 I think the Protestant Church has blown it. 0.94

00:53:32.000 By the Catholics, you mean at least they're still against abortion?

00:53:35.000 Well, I think they still believe that people have souls and that the purpose of religion is to save a soul.

00:53:44.000 And I guess the church has been against the war, too, so that's a... Generally, they are against destruction of human life, whether it's war, abortion, capital punishment.

00:53:55.000 They think life is something God gives.

00:53:59.000 So I took the belt off.

00:54:00.000 He ran his hands down over and pulled the pants down.

00:54:01.000 We're into the final last few minutes now here, ladies and gentlemen.

00:54:06.000 John, were you able to find that little sub clip of that ABC News piece where they're going after the World War II vets and the 15-year-old girls and then beating their chest, screaming, I have power, I have power.

00:54:17.000 Did you find that?

00:54:18.000 It is ready.

00:54:18.000 Let's go ahead and play this from ABC News.

00:54:20.000 So I took the belt up.

00:54:24.000 He ran his hands down and pulled the pants down.

00:54:26.000 They went down around my ankles.

00:54:28.000 At that point, Perry was standing in his underwear in public view.

00:54:32.000 He asked to see a supervisor.

00:54:34.000 That made things worse.

00:54:36.000 She was yelling, I have power!

00:54:39.000 I have power!

00:54:40.000 I have power!

00:54:41.000 The power to stop him from flying to Florida with his wife that day to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary.

00:54:48.000 Make you feel like You have no rights.

00:54:51.000 Perry says he always alerts TSA agents about his metal knee and wonders why they can't just check his leg.

00:54:58.000 If somebody told me that I'm going to save the people on the airplane by taking my pants off in public, I wouldn't mind doing it.

00:55:06.000 But this was not necessary.

00:55:09.000 TSA officials say that when the metal detector goes off, their agents must resolve what caused the alarm.

00:55:15.000 Dr. Roberts, we know this is by design.

00:55:17.000 I mean, they want to train us how to be slaves, as you've said.

00:55:21.000 And people need to know that now they have the body scanners where they videotape your naked body.

00:55:25.000 And I'm not going through those.

00:55:27.000 And you watch that same video where they beat people up for just not even rudely talking back.

00:55:33.000 And now they're killing people behind closed doors at airports.

00:55:37.000 I mean, where is it going to end?

00:55:39.000 Well, when we stop being cheap.

00:55:45.000 This guy running around, I.F.

00:55:46.000 Power, somebody should have decked him. 0.71

00:55:48.000 In fact, all the people there. 1.00

00:55:51.000 There must have been hundreds of people waiting in those stupid lines. 1.00

00:55:54.000 They should have attacked those transportation security people in mass and just beat the livid shit out of them. 1.00

00:56:00.000 That's what they should have done. 1.00

00:56:05.000 Oh my God.

00:56:06.000 That's exactly what they should have done.

00:56:08.000 They ought to pull these people, and they ought to strip them off. 0.81

00:56:15.000 And when the cops come, they ought to turn over their cars and do the same thing to them. 0.97

00:56:19.000 Until the people start standing up for themselves and realize that they're dealing with a bunch of fascist thugs.

00:56:26.000 Well, you know, the Communist Chinese, their population is revolting and taking over cities every week, and they try to cover it out in the news, but the Chinese have a lot more spirit than we do. 0.96

00:56:34.000 And less to revolt about.

00:56:38.000 Well, that's true.

00:56:40.000 In fact, it was in the article, and they put cameras up, the Chinese climb up and knock them down and throw fits! 1.00

00:56:47.000 I mean, when Communist China, in many respects, is more free than we are, we're in a lot of trouble.

00:56:51.000 I agree that they are.

00:56:52.000 Yes, they definitely are more free than we are.

00:56:55.000 I've been there recently.

00:56:58.000 Definitely.

00:56:58.000 And they don't have the sphere.

00:57:00.000 of government and the government's not trying to instill fear in the population.

00:57:05.000 Dr. Roberts, amazing interview.

00:57:07.000 Your book out, second edition, updated and very powerful.

00:57:11.000 You've got to get it for everybody out there in your family.

00:57:13.000 You need to understand the diabolical nature of the police state, the tyranny of good intentions.

00:57:17.000 Sir, thank you so much for spending time with us, Dr. Roberts.

00:57:20.000 You're welcome, Alex.

00:57:22.000 Goodbye.

00:57:23.000 Take care.

00:57:25.000 What a way to end the show.

00:57:26.000 More details, Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura.

00:57:29.000 Looks like it's probably going to happen.

00:57:31.000 We just got to figure out in the next few months at short notice if we can get a venue big enough to do this.

00:57:38.000 So that's up on the site.

00:57:39.000 We're going into very bad waters here, but a lot of people are waking up and we can say no to this.

00:57:46.000 We got a bunch of sick social engineers doing all this by design, bringing us into a global crisis by design, and we had to learn to say no.

00:57:53.000 My mom called up.

00:57:54.000 She never calls the office.

00:57:55.000 I don't think my mother's ever called the office in a decade plus of a radio show, said, wish your uncle a happy birthday, because he was on the show earlier today.

00:58:02.000 I didn't know it was your birthday.

00:58:03.000 Happy birthday.

00:58:04.000 It's also Burmese's birthday.

00:58:06.000 So, you guys all have the same birthday there.

00:58:12.000 All right, take us out of here, John.

00:58:13.000 I don't hear my illustrious bumper music.

00:58:16.000 I do want to encourage all of the listeners to please remember rebroadcast with Ron Paul and everybody else.

00:58:24.000 Jim Mars with his new book on the Nazis.

00:58:26.000 It's all up on Infowars.com.

00:58:29.000 Retransmission on the audio starts right now for internet listeners.

00:58:32.000 For everybody else, back live tomorrow on the MNFM Dial.

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00:58:36.000 All the stuff you missed.

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