Alex Jones Show - 20080729_Tue_Alex

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00:00:12.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:26.000 For the next hour and 15 minutes, roughly, we'll be joined by Webster Griffin Tarbley.

00:00:32.000 He wrote the first major definitive work, unauthorized biography, back in the early 90s on George Herbert Walker Bush.

00:00:39.000 I have researched everything in that book and followed up and did even expanded research with more modern information.

00:00:44.000 In my film in 2004, Martial Law, 9-1-1, Rise of the Police State, When BBC and then others after that did report indeed that Prescott Bush was the head Nazi in the United States.

00:01:02.000 And I really respect Webster Tarpoli's fine work.

00:01:05.000 Of course, his book covers more than just that.

00:01:07.000 It's now, of course, still in print.

00:01:10.000 He also has a free version up on the web at his website.

00:01:12.000 The new book, Obama, the Postmodern Coup, is a very interesting book and I certainly Respect Webster Griffin Tarpley's perspective and view on that, and I think it's important to read this book.

00:01:26.000 That's why we're offering it almost out of print.

00:01:29.000 The second edition is about to come out, but we have just a few hundred of these.

00:01:32.000 I believe it's publishers now sold out.

00:01:34.000 We have some of the only copies of this at InfoWars.com.

00:01:37.000 Obama and the Postmodern Coup, Webster Griffin Tarpley.

00:01:41.000 That said, I want to not just discuss Barack Obama's background and the time we have.

00:01:46.000 We're going to do that But I suggest you get the book.

00:01:48.000 But also, at a certain point it becomes academic.

00:01:52.000 I mean, Hillary represents the exact same people.

00:01:55.000 John McCain now has Zbigniew Brzezinski's son advising it on foreign policy.

00:02:01.000 That was in the Associated Press.

00:02:03.000 We got a lot of calls about that.

00:02:04.000 Thank listeners for pointing it out.

00:02:07.000 Now, at least on the surface, they have kicked Zbigniew Brzezinski off of his foreign policy advisory panel, Barack Obama's, but it doesn't matter.

00:02:16.000 The whole same crew, as Dartley points out, that wants to attack Russia, that wants to attack other countries in Central Asia, That wants to move nuclear weapons back into Europe and point them at the Russians.

00:02:28.000 I mean, everything he's saying is true.

00:02:30.000 My only difference is perspective on this.

00:02:33.000 It almost lends credibility to the whole election process when you're talking about Barack Obama versus Hillary and now it's Barack Obama versus John McCain.

00:02:45.000 I mean, it's a foregone conclusion.

00:02:46.000 It's like a Don King fight where he owns both the fighters and you know it's going to be rigged.

00:02:52.000 Either way, and then you've got all these neocons on Fox saying, oh, Israel is going to attack before the election to get John McCain elected.

00:03:06.000 I don't know if that's the case.

00:03:07.000 I want to get Tarpley. 0.99

00:03:08.000 Take on that.

00:03:09.000 Tarpley is quite a geopolitical expert.

00:03:13.000 His research is very good.

00:03:15.000 I constantly study and read and research and find that Tarpley's information is again very accurate.

00:03:21.000 I only differ with you, Webster, on the inferences you draw on the I mean, here's an example.

00:03:29.000 Two years ago, I was saying we weren't going to attack Iran then. 0.76

00:03:32.000 You were saying guaranteed with dates.

00:03:34.000 And so I think we can argue about how we analyze that data and what we come up with.

00:03:42.000 And so, I think you get the point I'm making here, Webster?

00:03:47.000 Yes, Alex.

00:03:47.000 First of all, let me thank you for inviting me.

00:03:49.000 Thank you for stocking my book.

00:03:51.000 And I'm delighted to have this discussion.

00:03:55.000 I would say, first of all, we have to look at ourselves like a naval battle.

00:03:59.000 We're confronting a hostile fleet, and you've got to concentrate your fire on the flagship of the hostile fleet rather than just scattering fire.

00:04:07.000 In every direction, and I think if you turn on the television for ten minutes, there is no doubt that Obama is the candidate favored by the controlled corporate media.

00:04:16.000 Yes, he is anointed.

00:04:18.000 It is an endless worship fest, and I watched him in Europe quite a bit over the weekend on C-SPAN Raw footage.

00:04:25.000 He is a... He is bumbling.

00:04:28.000 He doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:04:30.000 I know a lot of high school seniors in government class that can speak more eloquently than him, and that is upsetting to me.

00:04:36.000 You're exactly right, but the choice that's being made is of course being made by Wall Street, and it's being made by our old friends, the Trilateral, Rockefeller, Bilderberger, Council on Foreign Relations, Rand Corporation, Chicago Schools, Skull and Bones, Ford Foundation, you name it.

00:04:53.000 They have all lined up behind Obama in a way that is unprecedented.

00:04:57.000 You've got a unified oligarchical front now around Obama.

00:05:01.000 McCain is barely mentioned.

00:05:02.000 Hillary Clinton was swept aside.

00:05:04.000 Others swept aside.

00:05:05.000 An example is McCain lands in New Hampshire and there's one reporter and one photographer.

00:05:12.000 Everywhere Obama goes, thousands.

00:05:15.000 Now, you're exactly right.

00:05:16.000 And there's a reason for this.

00:05:18.000 Why do they support Obama?

00:05:19.000 What's the reason? 0.99

00:05:20.000 It is because he is the puppet who is most puppet. 0.90

00:05:24.000 He's like Bush, who they know they can fully control. 0.96

00:05:28.000 Yes, maybe even more so than Bush.

00:05:30.000 He's somebody who's been raised literally up out of nothing by these trilateral people. 1.00

00:05:35.000 My personal hypothesis is that Obama was recruited by Zbigniew Brzezinski at Columbia University between 1981 And 1983, they had just finished up with Carter.

00:05:47.000 You'll remember that Zbigniew Brzezinski and Volker ran the catastrophic Carter administration.

00:05:52.000 And then they pinned it all on him when he was well-meaning.

00:05:56.000 Yes, and that's also an aspect of why they've chosen Obama, because Obama's not well-meaning. 0.98

00:06:00.000 Obama is a boiling cauldron of hate.

00:06:02.000 But back there in Colombia in 81 to 83, they were looking around for a puppet, a Manchurian candidate, assets, and of course they had a broad choice. 0.86

00:06:12.000 Didn't have to be just Obama, they picked others.

00:06:15.000 uh... to to deploy into a uh... political upsurge in this country uh... approximately now two thousand and eight two thousand and ten two thousand and twenty and obama was one of the political properties that they picked up so they have been grooming him and indoctrinating him by the way i'm backing you up dr dennis cuddy has done a whole book on all these famous people when they're in college they'll be in the lunch line and david rockefeller will be there are some big numbers and she'll be there henry kissinger they go pick who they want

00:06:45.000 And that, I think, that is my thesis, is that that's what happened with Obama, and therefore all the wonderful coincidences and magic events of his life are guided by that fine trilateral hand behind the scenes.

00:06:57.000 But now, ultimately, why do they need him today?

00:06:59.000 Basically two things.

00:07:00.000 The entire phase of Islamofascism, war on terror, post 9-11, I believe is exhausted. 0.98

00:07:07.000 I think they've gone into a new phase.

00:07:09.000 The fake environmental Malthusian, the Russians are a threat. 1.00

00:07:13.000 Yes, it's Russia, China, Malthusian, Unabomber kind of stuff, but then it's also human rights, humanitarian concerns, and left cover.

00:07:22.000 We're going from a phase of right-wing cover imperialism to a phase of left-wing cover imperialism.

00:07:27.000 This is why so many of our left-liberal friends have not been able to understand this, because they regard all of this as progress.

00:07:34.000 They think that it's By the way, the Romans would do this in their different protectorates and new places they'd taken over.

00:07:43.000 They would put a thug in for 5-10 years to murder, kill, stab, then they would publicly flog him, execute him, apologize, and then rise up somebody from that local area in Germania or Gaul or there in Excellent!

00:08:00.000 And in the case of Brzezinski, you can say this is the Hegelian dialectic.

00:08:02.000 areas and then they would raise up a local who on the surface would act like he was friendly to people but it would actually intensify taxation and control.

00:08:11.000 Excellent and in the case of Brzezinski you can say this is the Hegelian dialectic.

00:08:16.000 This is one of those cases where you can actually see the Hegelian dialectic at work.

00:08:20.000 Brzezinski's teacher is a guy called Carl Friedrichs.

00:08:24.000 So he has a degree in Hegelian Dialectic?

00:08:27.000 Yes, and Friedrichs is a historian.

00:08:29.000 He wrote The Age of the Baroque.

00:08:30.000 He's a historian of the Thirty Years' War.

00:08:32.000 As a professor of the Hegelian Dialectic?

00:08:35.000 Yeah, and Brzezinski is a student at McGill University with this guy and, of course, with others.

00:08:41.000 And essentially what they've said is, you can't keep going with the right-wing stuff.

00:08:45.000 You can't do Bush-Cheney neocons.

00:08:47.000 Right now here in Washington, Bush, Cheney, and the Neocons are finished. 0.67

00:08:50.000 They're out.

00:08:51.000 They have no influence.

00:08:52.000 They're a laughingstock.

00:08:53.000 They're going to jail.

00:08:55.000 They're done.

00:08:56.000 And their policies are out too, and we could go through that in some detail.

00:08:59.000 But the idea is now, what's the new policy?

00:09:02.000 The Brzezinski argument is, stop wasting time in the Middle East.

00:09:05.000 Stop mucking around in the Persian Gulf.

00:09:08.000 Remember that on a world scale, the main opposition to U.S.

00:09:11.000 imperialism is Russia and China. 0.79

00:09:14.000 It's the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

00:09:17.000 You smash those, you've guaranteed U.S.-British world domination for another century, so get busy doing that, and forget the attack on Iran. 0.90

00:09:27.000 I believe there will be no attack on Iran.

00:09:29.000 There have been ultimatums delivered to the Israelis.

00:09:31.000 Well, why did you previously believe that there would be?

00:09:34.000 I think we came very close, and the closest we came was last August with the Rogue B-52.

00:09:40.000 There was an attempt by the Cheney gang last August to actually hijack A B-52 intercontinental bomber.

00:09:47.000 They flew it from North Dakota to Louisiana.

00:09:50.000 They were going to fly that to the Middle East.

00:09:51.000 And it had six cruise missiles on it, loaded with nukes.

00:09:54.000 And this was going to take part in the attack on Israel that took place on September 6th.

00:09:59.000 However, it was stopped on the ground and as that question went up the chain of command, And began to interest the intelligence agencies.

00:10:06.000 The word came down, no, no, no, no, no!

00:10:10.000 And that, I believe, that was the last gasp from Bush and Cheney.

00:10:12.000 And then we see a string of reports by the CIA and Defense Intelligence saying it's all lies, Iran's not a threat.

00:10:19.000 But you're saying you don't think Israel's going to wildcard?

00:10:22.000 Because they're certainly setting up the propaganda front right now.

00:10:25.000 No, I think a lot of that is disinformation.

00:10:27.000 The attack that you have to worry about that's going on right now There's another country, three times bigger than Iran, with nuclear weapons that is being attacked.

00:10:35.000 Pakistan!

00:10:36.000 It's Pakistan, and I believe there will be a U.S., uh, NATO and Afghan land invasion of northwest Pakistan. 0.99

00:10:42.000 Now, the difference, though, is there's a different... And they've been downlighting, they've been preparing the ground on that.

00:10:47.000 The, the difference is that now the target list is, how do you weaken Russia, how do you weaken China, how do you strip away Chinese allies and Chinese strategic partners?

00:10:57.000 That means Pakistan is at the top of the list. 1.00

00:11:00.000 Not for this idiotic al-Qaeda bin Laden fairytale that we've already refuted and you've refuted so many times. 0.99

00:11:07.000 But now it's the question of Pakistan. 1.00

00:11:09.000 Yeah, that's just a rubric, boogeyman cover.

00:11:12.000 I agree.

00:11:13.000 But the real reason is that Pakistan is an ally of China, and that's what they've got to go after. 0.95

00:11:18.000 The gold of the operations out of Afghanistan right now is the Chinese encirclement. 1.00

00:11:23.000 Yeah, it's to encircle China by destroying Pakistan. 1.00

00:11:26.000 In other words, by dividing Pakistan into four, five, six countries.

00:11:29.000 Be it Balochistan, Pushtunistan, Waziristan, Sindh, or whatever you have.

00:11:34.000 They're going to shatter Pakistan. 1.00

00:11:35.000 Same thing in Iraq.

00:11:36.000 They want to break it in three parts.

00:11:38.000 That's why they won't.

00:11:39.000 Let Maliki kick him out, do you agree with that? 1.00

00:11:42.000 Yes, that's the Bernard Lewis plan, and that of course goes on and on, but now the Bernard Lewis plan is... Stay there, stay there.

00:11:47.000 Yeah, the great game, balkanization.

00:11:49.000 Webster will be right back in about four minutes.

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00:15:57.000 Man thinks, cause he rules at us, he can do with it as he please.

00:16:05.000 And if things don't change soon He will For a man has invented his doom First step was touching the moon Now there's a woman on my block She'll just sit there as the night grows still She'll say, who's gonna take away his license 1.00

00:16:33.000 Obama, the post-modern coup.

00:16:39.000 Look, the reason I saw the elite, the Fox News type people having fundraisers for her quietly, Rush Limbaugh trying to make sure that she won, really pushing for that, as the major power structure of the neocons being behind Hillary. 0.73

00:17:01.000 And I said that she was going to be the person that won.

00:17:04.000 I said five years ago you'd hear Limbaugh endorse her.

00:17:07.000 I was right about them endorsing her.

00:17:08.000 I was wrong about her winning.

00:17:11.000 Just like Tarpley was wrong about them attacking Iran a year and a half ago, two years ago.

00:17:14.000 But none of us are perfect.

00:17:16.000 The point here is I don't claim to have all the answers.

00:17:18.000 I just know this.

00:17:19.000 To hold Hillary out and to say, well, we're attacking the main capital ship here in the Infowar, I just say it's all a latrine.

00:17:26.000 There are all different things floating around in there and I'm not going to say go for either one of them because it's that lesser of evils thing.

00:17:32.000 It just doesn't matter.

00:17:33.000 Discredit the whole process.

00:17:35.000 That's what brings them down.

00:17:36.000 Discredit them all is what we've got to do.

00:17:41.000 But now we've got Obama, we've got McCain, so we're analyzing that.

00:17:45.000 We are looking at that.

00:17:46.000 I mean, you're not denying, Webster, that Hillary would have been a willing servant of the very elite running Obama today, are you?

00:17:54.000 Willing, but not as willing as Obama.

00:17:56.000 Not 100% a slave.

00:17:58.000 Maybe 50%, 70% a slave.

00:18:00.000 After all, she's got a two-term president in the House.

00:18:04.000 She does not owe her entire existence to Big New Brzezinski in the way that Obama does. 0.99

00:18:10.000 Obama is 1,000% a puppet, a total abject slave. 0.54

00:18:14.000 What do you say to Brzezinski's people being in the McCain campaign now? 0.96

00:18:17.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:18:18.000 Brzezinski's a clever fellow.

00:18:19.000 He's got one Democratic son, Mark, who's on the Obama side.

00:18:23.000 And by the way, Brzezinski continues to run Obama.

00:18:26.000 This is just window dressing.

00:18:27.000 Brzezinski learned under Carter that he's Dr. Strangelove and he better stay out of the TV.

00:18:31.000 Brzezinski was hated under Carter.

00:18:34.000 He was booed at the Democratic Convention that year.

00:18:37.000 So he's got one son, Mark, who helps to run Obama, and he's got Ian Brzezinski as a fallback option on the McCain side.

00:18:43.000 But the reason why Obama is the greatest of all possible disasters, the greatest evil, if you will, basically two sides.

00:18:52.000 One is the policy side.

00:18:54.000 One is that you're going to do this global showdown against China and Russia. 0.83

00:18:57.000 The first thing you need to do is to kick the Chinese out of Africa. 1.00

00:19:01.000 You've got to cut off oil, minerals, strategic raw materials from Africa to China. 0.88

00:19:07.000 Because the ultimate goal of this is to drive the Chinese in on eastern Siberia. 1.00

00:19:12.000 And you've got to get the left in America behind war and conflicts again, just like under Clinton.

00:19:18.000 They were happy to blow the daylights out of Serbia. 1.00

00:19:21.000 The irony is that today you have the peace movement.

00:19:24.000 They say, we're against the war in Iraq.

00:19:25.000 How about Afghanistan?

00:19:27.000 A lot of them are for it.

00:19:28.000 How about Sudan?

00:19:30.000 They say we're in favor of attacking Sudan.

00:19:32.000 The goal of that, of course, is to cut off 7% of the Chinese oil. 0.99

00:19:35.000 They're in favor of attacking Burma, a Chinese ally. 0.85

00:19:38.000 They think it's fine to go after Pakistan because they don't like Musharraf.

00:19:46.000 And global taxation paid directly to the private banks, making them truly governmental for the first time, with their own armies, intelligence agencies, and mercenaries.

00:19:53.000 They say, oh, Bush is against the global warming tax, so the left all gets behind it.

00:19:57.000 And now, oh, Bush is against attacking North Africa, which he's been gearing up and wanting to do, but because he publicly says he's against it, now the left supports it.

00:20:04.000 I mean, this is, please don't throw me in the briar patch, base psychology.

00:20:08.000 Yeah, the problem here is you can get the left liberals for all of these policies.

00:20:12.000 So, the one side of it is Obama is the face of imperialism.

00:20:17.000 Obama represents a facelift for U.S.-British imperialism in places like Africa.

00:20:22.000 The second thing is, in terms of potential for strike-breaking, austerity, cutting the living standard, And this kind of thing on the internal front, he has left cover.

00:20:32.000 He can say, I'm going to break your strike.

00:20:35.000 And he's been saying that we have to lower our standards and, quote, sacrifice for the New World Order.

00:20:40.000 I mean, I totally agree with you on all of this.

00:20:43.000 That particular quotation, the stuff about you can't have SUVs, you can't eat as much as you want, you can't have the temperature set where you want, that comes directly out of Brzezinski's book, Second Chance.

00:20:54.000 That's a translation into slogans of about two pages.

00:20:57.000 In there where Brzezinski argues against the U.S.

00:21:00.000 way of life, it's not attractive to other countries.

00:21:02.000 But now, here's the biggest consideration of all.

00:21:05.000 Fascism.

00:21:06.000 Postmodern fascism.

00:21:07.000 What is it?

00:21:08.000 Is it simply a top-down phenomenon where you have a Bush-Cheney police state where it gets more and more oppressive and more and more wiretaps and more and more snooping and opening the mail?

00:21:19.000 Or, is it fascism something else?

00:21:21.000 Isn't fascism a grassroots mass movement with left cover, radical cover, a movement of fanatics devoted to a personality cult?

00:21:31.000 If you look at it from that point of view, Obama has it, nobody else has it.

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00:21:46.000 Okay, Webster, continue.

00:21:49.000 And certainly it's cynical. 0.92

00:21:51.000 They put a guy who's half black up there. 0.83

00:21:55.000 Oh, everything's fine. 0.68

00:21:56.000 There's this pride.

00:21:57.000 Things have changed.

00:21:59.000 And then now it fools a large sector of the left.

00:22:02.000 They keep the wiretaps, the police state.

00:22:04.000 But it's like the Bush administration was saying, torture children all overtly.

00:22:08.000 Now it's smoothed over It's now institutionalized, refined.

00:22:13.000 They bring in the fake green revolution to regulate control tax.

00:22:17.000 In the U.S.

00:22:17.000 and England, they're announcing children cops called climate cops.

00:22:21.000 It says, report on your parents.

00:22:23.000 Obama wants a million to start with.

00:22:26.000 High schoolers with guns, quote, spying on people bigger than the armed forces.

00:22:31.000 Keep talking about that.

00:22:33.000 Yeah, that's the essence of fascism.

00:22:34.000 In other words, when you look at things like Al Gore's Green Army Obama's Green Corps, Obama's Homeland Security Corps, Obama's volunteer programs, All of this gives you the idea of a private army.

00:22:48.000 In other words, an extra-legal force of goons, thugs, criminals, but also fervently idealistic.

00:22:57.000 A la Hitler, a la Stalin, a la Mao Zedong and his youth brigades. 0.91

00:23:02.000 I would urge people to look at the young Mussolini. 0.51

00:23:05.000 I think that's a good, clear-cut example.

00:23:09.000 Well, Al Duce was the groundbreaker, the trailblazer.

00:23:13.000 He invented what we're seeing today.

00:23:15.000 Pretty much.

00:23:16.000 Between 1919 and 1922, the idea of having a movement.

00:23:20.000 Now remember... And the march on Rome.

00:23:21.000 And Mussolini, of course... And so they come in with Obama, and then capture the popular rage in a false revolution against tyranny, truly bringing in official tyranny.

00:23:32.000 Yes, basically, you go to fascism as a ruling elite, you go to fascism when police repression doesn't work anymore, when the army is unreliable, you've got to organize the population to crush itself.

00:23:45.000 And for that you need a plausible demagogue, you need somebody with this messianic, utopian rhetoric.

00:23:52.000 Pied Piper! 0.98

00:23:53.000 Pardon me?

00:23:54.000 Pied Piper.

00:23:55.000 applied by the island and it's mostly look at muslim he was a radical socialist he was a revolutionary so uh... formidable that lemon praised him and when you look at the foundation of italian fascism you've got people like uh...

00:24:09.000 trade union militants disgruntled war veterans artists and intellectuals and these socialists and left this to have been outraged by bush are now driven into the arms uh... this corporate crafted uh... monster Right.

00:24:25.000 And again, Obama has this, nobody else has it.

00:24:28.000 Bush does not have a fascist mass movement.

00:24:30.000 You can imagine Bush making a balcony speech a la Mussolini, or Bush making a Nuremberg rally Speech in the stadium.

00:24:38.000 He can't do it.

00:24:39.000 McCain can't do it.

00:24:41.000 Mrs. Clinton has a strong following among normal Democrats, but it's not a fanatical mass movement. 0.98

00:24:47.000 People collapsing, worshipping... Yeah, and this is why Obama is the greatest evil. 0.92

00:24:53.000 In other words, the... Okay, here we go. 0.95

00:24:55.000 Let's recap that right now.

00:24:56.000 Back on the main show.

00:24:57.000 Okay.

00:25:01.000 Everybody knows.

00:25:04.000 Everybody knows that the days are loaded.

00:25:08.000 Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.

00:25:13.000 Everybody knows the war is over.

00:25:18.000 Everybody knows the good guys lost.

00:25:23.000 Everybody knows the fight was fixed.

00:25:26.000 The poor stay poor.

00:25:29.000 The rich get rich.

00:25:31.000 That's how it goes.

00:25:33.000 Everybody knows. 0.94

00:25:37.000 If Barack Obama was a JFK or a Bobby, they would have whacked him or will whacked him. 0.90

00:25:44.000 is leaking.

00:25:45.000 As you look at his advisors, his policies, his plans, million man armed youth brigades, environmental brigades, tie them with Al Gore endorsing him.

00:25:54.000 Flesh that out, expand that.

00:25:56.000 Tattletale squads, youth brigades, the war on terror will continue, but overlaid with a new quote environmentalism, people slashing SUV tires.

00:26:05.000 It's all intensifying right now towards the movement of Barack Obama.

00:26:10.000 The essence of a top-down dictatorship is what you've seen, right?

00:26:13.000 The FBI comes and harasses you.

00:26:15.000 They tap your phone.

00:26:16.000 Fascism is different. 0.99

00:26:17.000 Fascism is a gang of goons who are probably environmentalists at this point, decide that you're a polluter, and they come and burn you out and beat you up or kill you. 0.99

00:26:28.000 And this is the difference. 0.96

00:26:29.000 See, there's a lot of stuff on the Internet.

00:26:31.000 There's this book by Jonah Goldberg.

00:26:33.000 There are these things by Naomi Wolf, I think her name is.

00:26:37.000 There's a guy called Britt who does The ten ways you can tell if you're in fascism.

00:26:42.000 What they all leave out is the mass movement.

00:26:44.000 The grassroots, bottom-up, left-cover, radical-cover, anti-establishment, anti-authoritarian movement, which is the essence of fascism.

00:26:54.000 Otherwise, you don't need a new term for fascism.

00:26:57.000 Why do you have to coin this in the 1920s?

00:26:59.000 Dictatorships, of course, have been around for a long time.

00:27:03.000 The young Mussolini between 1919 and 1922 put together a movement of radical revolutionary socialists who were interventionists in World War I. They wanted war. 0.53

00:27:13.000 That's one possible difference, although it's not as big a difference as you might think.

00:27:18.000 Artists, intellectuals, people who were disgruntled war veterans, people who were coming out of the labor movement, extremely militant trade union activists.

00:27:29.000 And you put that all together under breakdown crisis conditions of depression, and of course that's what we've got now, this then becomes a messianic, fascist-style movement.

00:27:40.000 Because you need a demagogue.

00:27:41.000 Now, the way in which they've done it today is according to a cookbook.

00:27:45.000 The cookbook is the Brzezinski-Soros National Endowment for Democracy.

00:27:50.000 It's what they did in Georgia in the Roses Revolution in Tbilisi, or in Kiev in the Ukraine with the Orange Revolution. 0.80

00:27:58.000 At the end of 2004, you get a telegenic demagogue, you get lots of money, lots of narcotics, you get renter mobs and duper mobs of fervently idealistic, swarming adolescent students and other people who just don't know what they're doing, you get a media swoon, you get media whores all over the place, bought and paid for, you get fake polling, and then you get slogans, colors, a process of branding.

00:28:26.000 This stuff typically comes out of the National Endowment for Democracy, the Albert Einstein Institute, and a guy called Gene Sharp in Cambridge, Massachusetts, along with an army colonel who works with him.

00:28:39.000 So they've perfected this for use in the former Soviet space.

00:28:43.000 Now, what happened at the beginning of this year was the model of the People Power Coup, or CIA Color Revolution, Was brought home into the United States, and that is what allowed Obama to get this insurmountable lead by gaming the crazy rules of the Democratic Party.

00:28:59.000 But again, focus on the mass movement.

00:29:02.000 Fascism is worse than a reactionary government.

00:29:06.000 People who lived through 1922 in Italy, the seizure of power by Mussolini, or the 1933 seizure of power by Hitler, There is just no comparison between some bourgeois government, no matter how corrupt, how repressive, how bellicose.

00:29:22.000 Because it runs out of gas very soon and then collapses back.

00:29:27.000 And then you get fascism.

00:29:28.000 But a fascist system is like a wildfire with 50 mile an hour winds.

00:29:33.000 When things is a tinderbox, it just feeds itself and exponentially grows.

00:29:37.000 Yes, and of course, ultimately, after the fascists seize power, they then proceed to destroy all the resistance institutions in the society.

00:29:45.000 They go around, and again, smash you if they decide you're a polluter, or if you're a, you know, you're not appreciating Barkey Obama enough, they come after you, they beat you up, they harass you.

00:29:57.000 It's going on on the internet right now. 0.97

00:29:59.000 I mean, you have these Obama trolls.

00:30:01.000 Some of them are apparently in Gaza, some of them are in Bangalore, India, or other places. 0.82

00:30:07.000 He's got a Storm Troopers on the internet who go around trying to wipe out resistance.

00:30:14.000 On the internet.

00:30:15.000 Now, there'll come a time when that goes into the streets.

00:30:18.000 And these... Well, they've also announced in Canada, England, Australia, France, that they're now going directly to shutting off the old web and just not... These are the ISPs, major ones, not letting you get on the web anymore and only letting you go to sites they want.

00:30:34.000 A few thousand.

00:30:35.000 I mean, it's all happening now.

00:30:36.000 Everything is coming down.

00:30:37.000 And I agree with you.

00:30:38.000 Barack Obama's bought and paid for by the same people and he does have that mass appeal, which is very dangerous.

00:30:45.000 But again, I just want to be clear, you have the Zbigniew Brzezinski people also running the McCain camp.

00:30:50.000 But let's look at the differences.

00:30:52.000 I'm just saying, I'm not voting for either one, we need to expose both of them, because if you go to the left and say Barack Obama's bad, and lay all this stuff out that you're saying that's true tarpley, I'm talking about psychology here, then they're going to go, oh my God, you're for John McCain.

00:31:05.000 You're going to first go to them and say, John McCain's the new world order, John McCain represents the neocons, and Israel...

00:31:11.000 And hold on, and hold on, and then you've got the Rockefeller power axis through Brzezinski with this demagogue.

00:31:18.000 Barack Obama, and then as long as you explain that both of them are bad, then they go, oh I see, but if you aggress and attack their demagogue just on the face and say McCain's better, you have just actually energized, through the left-right paradigm mechanism, what's been ingrained in people, Barack Obama.

00:31:35.000 I want you to address that.

00:31:36.000 Well let's look at it.

00:31:37.000 First of all, if you get Obama, you're going to get Obama as a 1000% puppet of trilateral Bilderberg, Rockefeller, Soros. 0.61

00:31:46.000 A fanatical Democratic Congress.

00:31:48.000 This will give you the fascist corporate state.

00:31:51.000 In very, very short order.

00:31:53.000 It'll be like Carter, but a thousand percent worse.

00:31:56.000 Now suppose you get McCain.

00:31:58.000 Here's my analysis on McCain. 0.99

00:31:59.000 You will get a tired, old, lame duck. 0.95

00:32:04.000 The transition will begin on January 20th. 0.75

00:32:07.000 He'll be a transitional figure in some ways, like Ratzinger in the Vatican.

00:32:11.000 Somebody who's so old that he won't be there.

00:32:14.000 He'll be a one-termer. 0.98

00:32:15.000 And he'll be a lame duck as soon as he gets into office.

00:32:18.000 And he will face a ferociously hostile Democratic Congress, and that will give you gridlock.

00:32:24.000 Now that, I think, is under that scenario.

00:32:27.000 No, I agree.

00:32:27.000 Gridlock, separation of power, being accentuated is good.

00:32:31.000 But wait a minute.

00:32:32.000 I think there's something better.

00:32:33.000 I'm part of the Puma movement here, right?

00:32:36.000 We have the Puma movement.

00:32:37.000 You can go to Puma08.

00:32:39.000 We're holding a convention here in Washington on August 8th.

00:32:42.000 Hillary will save us, Starblight? 1.00

00:32:43.000 No, it's basically stop Obama.

00:32:46.000 And how do you stop Obama?

00:32:48.000 Well, you know, it would be nice to be able to stop Obama in some ideal way.

00:32:52.000 But in the real world that we have now, You've got to say, the only way to do it is 175 delegates shift out of the Obama column and into the Hillary Clinton column.

00:33:02.000 But Hillary politically doesn't have the will to do that and would be destroyed by the media if she tries. 1.00

00:33:06.000 Could be.

00:33:07.000 I mean, we'll soon find out.

00:33:08.000 That's perfectly plausible, but I think this is worth a try.

00:33:12.000 And then you've got a lame duck Hillary and a lame duck, I mean obviously, 9% approval rating for the Congress, the elite knows the system's discredited, both parties are discredited, they've got to give you a new brown face to confuse everybody, oh look it's changed, he's a black guy, and I certainly see what they're doing, and they've even said, pundits have said, this will bring people back into government, back to the table, back believing in the system, Then there'll be another revolution in the next four years against his socialism as it'll be built. 0.68

00:33:41.000 Then you'll get a new right-wing government, which I think is the real final plan.

00:33:45.000 I think ultimately, and this is that you're right, because that's what Samuel Huntington has been writing over the years, eventually what you'll get after that is a right-wing fascism that will look much more like what people think of as the Hitler regime.

00:33:57.000 But in the meantime, look, the thing with Mrs. Clinton is simply this.

00:34:01.000 She has now been royally betrayed.

00:34:04.000 She has been stabbed in the back by the entire Wall Street group.

00:34:08.000 The media have turned against her.

00:34:09.000 She's nursing tremendous grudges.

00:34:13.000 She would actually be more independent than any of the three.

00:34:17.000 McCain is somebody who can be controlled through rage states.

00:34:20.000 This is how they controlled Harry Truman. 0.97

00:34:22.000 Obama, we've seen it, he's a complete puppet.

00:34:25.000 Mrs. Clinton was already less of a puppet to begin with because of a sense of personal identity drawn from the years in the White House and the things that she's done. 0.96

00:34:33.000 She is part of the establishment, of course, which that means she's established.

00:34:37.000 She's not some nobody from nowhere, some barky who or Jimmy who that the Trilateral Commission has brought forward.

00:34:44.000 You could argue that when Clinton got to Washington in 1992, he was a puppet of Pamela Churchill Harriman.

00:34:50.000 And her group, the Democrats for the 1980s.

00:34:53.000 But she's long dead.

00:34:54.000 So these people have taken on something of a life of their own by winning elections and so forth.

00:34:59.000 The thing with Mrs. Clinton is... I mean, come on, the Clintons were CIA being handled going back to the London office by Cord Meyer in the 60s.

00:35:07.000 Sure, but again, that's neither here nor there right now.

00:35:10.000 These are people who have made their own way, and you know, Cord Meyer is also long gone.

00:35:14.000 So, those control mechanisms... No, I'm just saying, where they came from is directly out of the military industrial complex, dropping as a false left, little black hole to suck everybody into.

00:35:24.000 Tarbly, here's the deal.

00:35:26.000 Look, everything you're saying I believe.

00:35:28.000 I've already checked myself.

00:35:29.000 I respect you.

00:35:30.000 You know, I brought you on my radio show.

00:35:31.000 Tried to build you up.

00:35:34.000 Took you and put you on C-SPAN.

00:35:35.000 All of that.

00:35:36.000 And so, I'm not attacking you here, but I have to bring this up to you.

00:35:40.000 And I can play the clips.

00:35:41.000 I don't really want to dig them up and play them.

00:35:42.000 It's too painful for me to watch.

00:35:44.000 But I haven't really talked to you in about a year.

00:35:47.000 After those speeches you gave in Canada, what was one in Calgary, and some other ones saying Ron Paul is a fascist, run by fascists, they're planning on... No, no, no, I got the clips!

00:35:57.000 I don't think fascist, no.

00:36:00.000 Actually, I didn't take the time to dig those out.

00:36:02.000 Are you saying, Webster, that you didn't give a speech in Canada where you said racists, fascists are behind Ron Paul and the elite?

00:36:11.000 I don't think so.

00:36:12.000 Here's my critique of Ron Paul.

00:36:13.000 You don't think so?

00:36:14.000 This is ancient history now, but here's the thing.

00:36:17.000 Ron Paul was useful in the sense of having a Republican saying that he was against the Iraq War.

00:36:22.000 In other words, having a wrecking ball inside the Republican debates was a good thing.

00:36:28.000 Now we have a world economic breakdown crisis.

00:36:30.000 The kind of economics that Ron Paul represents is straight Milton Friedman, Chicago school, I would call it, well, Herbert Hoover economics.

00:36:41.000 No, what it is, is classical economics we've had, and it's the Austrian School of Economics.

00:36:47.000 Yeah, the Austrian School.

00:36:48.000 So it's a foreign entity. 0.86

00:36:50.000 This guy, von Hayek, who founded the school, was a paid apologist for a rent-couch... Tarbly!

00:36:56.000 Tarbly! 0.99

00:36:56.000 Stop! 0.99

00:36:58.000 Look, I want to skip over this in a minute.

00:37:00.000 But you said, no, no, no, I don't think I said that. 0.99

00:37:02.000 You're not stupid. 0.99

00:37:03.000 You speak three or four languages. 0.76

00:37:04.000 You're a smart guy.

00:37:06.000 You know what you said in Canada and on your own radio show on this network.

00:37:09.000 So I'm going to ask you again.

00:37:10.000 Do you remember saying racist and fascist and are behind Ron Paul?

00:37:14.000 No, I doubt it.

00:37:15.000 But again, I'd be happy to stand corrected if I did it.

00:37:18.000 Anyway.

00:37:19.000 No, you know what we're going to do, Tarpley?

00:37:20.000 We're going to take these comments, listeners will.

00:37:22.000 They're going to take those videos.

00:37:24.000 They're going to put it together.

00:37:24.000 I mean, right now, I'm asking you why you said that instead of ducking it.

00:37:28.000 Because I think that if Ron Paul ever got into power, this would be a disaster.

00:37:33.000 I think on the other hand, Ron Paul as a protest vote is a fine thing.

00:37:36.000 Wait a minute, you said it was anti-Mexican, racist, and that that's what was supporting him, and a bunch of other... He went very far into mexophobia, certainly, and I think that's...

00:37:47.000 What are you talking about?

00:37:48.000 Brzezinski and all them want 30 million illegals here blowing out the social welfare net. 1.00

00:37:53.000 We're not against the Mexicans.

00:37:55.000 Hold on, Tarpley.

00:37:56.000 There's 100 million of them coming into the country.

00:37:58.000 They've been nationalized.

00:38:00.000 They're very nationalistic.

00:38:01.000 We're like a country that doesn't have any of its white blood cells, like we have AIDS or something.

00:38:06.000 And then they come in with incredibly strong nationalistic immune systems politically.

00:38:11.000 And it's overtaking our country and bankrupting it. 0.94

00:38:14.000 And I'm sick of seeing 12 towns in Texas fly Mexican flags at their courthouses and saying whites aren't allowed here.

00:38:20.000 And I'm tired of the special treatment the government gives the illegals. 0.97

00:38:24.000 And see, to you, I guess that's because I don't like Mexicans. 1.00

00:38:27.000 And that's not what it is. 0.59

00:38:28.000 It's very painful to have to expose.

00:38:30.000 You speak Spanish, pal.

00:38:32.000 So does my wife.

00:38:33.000 She lived in Spain for six years.

00:38:34.000 And let me tell you, she hears what's on the Mexican radio.

00:38:37.000 And our government's behind that.

00:38:39.000 Look, here's the thing.

00:38:41.000 Let's compare this to Jeremiah Wright.

00:38:43.000 Everybody thought Jeremiah Wright, Obama's preacher.

00:38:48.000 Now, the theology of Jeremiah Wright and his entire mindset Yeah, they wanted to radicalize blacks to make them violent so that they couldn't do what Gandhi did.

00:39:03.000 I agree!

00:39:04.000 But Ron Paul, hold on!

00:39:06.000 I want you to answer Ron Paul's stuff because, you know, repeat what you said in Canada.

00:39:10.000 about Ron Paul here on my show.

00:39:12.000 I don't know.

00:39:12.000 I'd have to look at... Tarpley, you said it on your radio show on this network with everyone tearing their hair out and letting you, leaving you alone to do it over and over again.

00:39:20.000 You know full well, just don't insult my intelligence.

00:39:23.000 I like you, Tarpley, but don't insult my intelligence.

00:39:26.000 I want you to answer for what you said about Dr. Paul because I know he's a good man!

00:39:31.000 Well, as an individual, I suppose he's a good man.

00:39:34.000 But, obviously, there was a great disappointment with 9-11 Truth, for example.

00:39:38.000 He said that he was in favor of 9-11 Truth, and he went on television, and he repudiated 9-11 Truth, and he said it was preposterous, and he told us to stop doing it because it was an embarrassment to him.

00:39:48.000 I agree, that was a betrayal.

00:39:51.000 Okay, so, you know, good man, but a human being just like everybody else.

00:39:54.000 But that doesn't mean the fascists are behind him.

00:39:56.000 It doesn't mean he wants to throw Mexicans into wells. 0.71

00:39:59.000 Again, fascists, I don't know why this comes in, but the point is, the Ford Foundation, in addition to creating organizations in the black community, like Jeremiah Wright, in addition to creating similar organizations in every ethnic group, The Ford Foundation has created these crazy Mexican groups like Aztlan, the group that puts out the map that all the Southwest is going to be annexed to Mexico. 0.80

00:40:26.000 That is a pure foundation-funded provocation. 0.63

00:40:30.000 Yes, it's a method, yes.

00:40:31.000 And instead of responding to that at that level, it would be important, first of all, to continuously denounce the fact that this is the Ford Foundation and its associated foundations.

00:40:40.000 And secondly, try to organize those Mexicans yourself.

00:40:44.000 In other words, try to offer them some kind of a united front where they'd be fighting for something worthwhile.

00:40:50.000 Because what they don't get out of this Aztlan nonsense is they don't get a minimum wage, they don't get a decent... 0.66

00:40:57.000 Well, they get to turn the U.S. 0.96

00:40:58.000 into Mexico City, and the U.S.

00:41:01.000 uses a steam valve to stop true revolution reform in Mexico.

00:41:05.000 All I want is to understand why you were saying these things, because I agree with everything you just said right there, Webster.

00:41:11.000 If you want to help me, send me a transcript or send me a recording of what I said, and I'll be glad to comment on it.

00:41:16.000 You know what, I'm going to pull it up here in just a minute, but go ahead.

00:41:19.000 But I don't have it at the top of my head.

00:41:21.000 Anyway, the point was, That that kind of Herbert Hoover economics is exactly what you don't need.

00:41:26.000 In other words, if you say today, under this condition, we have a dollar crisis, we have the death agony of a dollar, we have a banking panic going on, we have dollar hyperinflation, we have a systemic breakdown crisis of the entire system.

00:41:39.000 If you say under these conditions, I want the market, this means death on a huge scale.

00:41:46.000 The only possible policy under these conditions is To try to get control of the federal government and use it against Wall Street.

00:41:52.000 Because if you don't do that, Wall Street will take control of the federal government. 0.96

00:41:55.000 They're gonna lose you, they're gonna suck your eye, they're gonna give us no quarter. 0.99

00:41:59.000 So I would say to Ron Paul, stop attacking the government, start attacking Wall Street. 0.99

00:42:03.000 Attack Goldman Sachs.

00:42:05.000 They're responsible for about 40% of the oil price.

00:42:06.000 He's always attacking them.

00:42:08.000 What do you think he does when the Fed Chairman's in there every month?

00:42:12.000 Yeah, I saw the ads he put on television.

00:42:14.000 The ad was attacking the Mexicans.

00:42:16.000 He showed the people swimming across the Rio Grande, and this was his first TV ad, and I thought that was just... That was not his first TV ad.

00:42:24.000 And it's a major issue to energize this campaign and it's a good issue.

00:42:30.000 Well, I don't think it's a good issue, and I think it didn't prove to be a good issue.

00:42:34.000 People thought it would be a good issue, and I think this was wrong.

00:42:36.000 The media that's for Barack Obama was against Ron Paul.

00:42:40.000 And so that's more proof he was the man.

00:42:42.000 Stay there.

00:42:43.000 We're going to skip this break for InfoWars.com.

00:42:45.000 There's a list on the web for everybody else.

00:42:47.000 We're going to be right back for all our fine MNM affiliates in just three minutes.

00:42:51.000 I'm Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com.

00:42:54.000 We have author Webster Tarpley with us.

00:42:57.000 Okay, let's keep going, Tarpley.

00:42:59.000 Keep going.

00:43:00.000 So, on what?

00:43:02.000 I want to finish up on Ron Paul.

00:43:03.000 I'll quit interrupting.

00:43:04.000 Go ahead.

00:43:05.000 Okay.

00:43:06.000 You want more Ron Paul?

00:43:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I want to hear you defend that stuff you were saying.

00:43:09.000 Oh, by the way, let me ask you, where was it a year ago?

00:43:12.000 Where you threw down the gauntlet on Paul, was it in Calgary?

00:43:15.000 Because I'm trying to Google the term.

00:43:16.000 I'm sorry, I don't know.

00:43:17.000 You were in Canada.

00:43:18.000 Where were you a year ago in Canada?

00:43:19.000 I don't know.

00:43:21.000 It was Vancouver, British Columbia.

00:43:23.000 Vancouver!

00:43:23.000 There we go.

00:43:24.000 That was it.

00:43:25.000 I'm going to find it right now.

00:43:25.000 Go ahead, Darby.

00:43:26.000 All right, wonderful.

00:43:28.000 The point is, what you need now is basically a version of New Deal economics.

00:43:32.000 And this, I think, is something that would revolve, for example, around foreclosures.

00:43:37.000 Ron Paul went on Larry Kudlow on CNBC.

00:43:41.000 And he said he didn't believe in bailing out people who had bought too much house.

00:43:45.000 Well, what you've got to do under these circumstances is a uniform federal law that says simply, no foreclosures.

00:43:52.000 Stop all foreclosures.

00:43:54.000 And, uh, take it from there.

00:43:56.000 So, Ron Paul, I don't think would support that, because that would be big government, from his point of view.

00:44:00.000 You should outlaw foreclosures for five years of the duration of the crisis, of homes, farms, businesses, and everything else that's useful economically.

00:44:10.000 You should outlaw adjustable-rate mortgages.

00:44:12.000 You should outlaw derivatives.

00:44:14.000 The current crisis that's going on is a crisis of one quadrillion dollars of derivatives And there is no way out of that unless you simply wipe them out.

00:44:24.000 You've got to shred them.

00:44:26.000 You've got to delete them.

00:44:27.000 You've got to get them out of the world because you cannot bail out a capital structure that is that huge.

00:44:34.000 So I never heard Ron Paul talking about any of this stuff.

00:44:38.000 Another thing you'd need to do is to begin to shift the tax burden.

00:44:41.000 It is unrealistic in the extreme to talk about abolishing the federal income tax.

00:44:47.000 The only thing you can do is to shift the tax burden off the individual taxpayer and on to Wall Street.

00:44:53.000 How about a Tobin tax or a securities transfer tax?

00:44:58.000 One percent on the entire turnover of Wall Street financial security.

00:45:06.000 Money transfer tax, huh?

00:45:07.000 Yeah, securities transfer tax.

00:45:09.000 With every transaction.

00:45:10.000 A sales tax for Wall Street.

00:45:12.000 What's a sales tax in Texas, Alex?

00:45:14.000 Seven percent.

00:45:15.000 Seven percent.

00:45:16.000 If you can pay seven percent, how come Wall Street can't pay one percent?

00:45:19.000 Make that a demand.

00:45:21.000 And that's on everything that goes through.

00:45:22.000 Well, that would slow down a lot of the blind putting and all the rest of it.

00:45:27.000 Absolutely.

00:45:27.000 And you'd apply that in Chicago, too.

00:45:29.000 And if it's a quadrillion dollars of derivatives, and maybe two-thirds of that in the U.S., say $650 trillion, If you take one percent of that, you get 6.5 trillion of tax revenue.

00:45:41.000 That would go a long way towards guaranteeing the permanent future of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the entire social safety net, which I think are absolutely indispensable.

00:45:51.000 Ron Paul thinks that these are things to get rid of.

00:45:54.000 We're coming back live right now.

00:45:55.000 We're coming back live right now.

00:45:56.000 now.

00:45:56.000 Here we go.

00:45:58.000 Here we go.

00:46:14.000 I just want stability to be able to raise my family.

00:46:21.000 But now we go into waters.

00:46:23.000 We'll be right back.

00:46:40.000 Webster Tarpey, do you agree with that statement?

00:46:42.000 And now expanding, where do you see things going?

00:46:45.000 How do you see the election turning out currently with the trends?

00:46:48.000 We see Barack Obama going and kneeling before Bernanke in little secret meetings.

00:46:53.000 That's in the news today.

00:46:54.000 We hear he's going for this particular governor.

00:46:56.000 What do you know about him?

00:46:58.000 Well, that's Governor Kaine here in Virginia.

00:47:01.000 He's not distinguished.

00:47:02.000 I think the main thing, of course, is Obama.

00:47:05.000 The point about the election is this is not yet determined.

00:47:08.000 This is open-ended, and we better seize the time.

00:47:11.000 The big thing is the scandal dossiers.

00:47:13.000 Obama does not run on issues.

00:47:15.000 Obama runs on the fact that he's a messiah.

00:47:17.000 Therefore, if you try to fight him on issues, it's impotent.

00:47:20.000 It doesn't work.

00:47:20.000 You've got to tear down the messiah.

00:47:22.000 That means ad hominem attacks, scandals.

00:47:25.000 And all the rest.

00:47:25.000 Here are the scandals that I see.

00:47:27.000 One is the Chicago corruption, Resco, Ouchi, Al-Samari, the three Levantines, the three Syrian or Iraqi Arabs that are behind him. 0.84

00:47:37.000 And these are all three convicted felons, all three embezzlers on a grand scale, millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars in some cases.

00:47:45.000 That's part of his financial machine.

00:47:47.000 Secondly, the Weathermen terrorists, the bombers, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dorn, and a whole creek of other unreconstructed, unrepentant weathermen who are part of his machine.

00:47:58.000 They're his personal advisors.

00:48:00.000 is probably the guy who gave Obama the biggest break he ever got in his career.

00:48:05.000 That's the second level.

00:48:06.000 Third level is this, what I call the Ford Foundation Church of the Final Counterinsurgency.

00:48:11.000 In other words, Trinity United Church of Christ, Jeremiah Wright, Dwight Hopkins, a Ford Foundation fellow, Otis Moss III, another Ford Foundation grant recipient, James Cone.

00:48:23.000 That is this black liberation theology, which is essentially a doctrine of of hatred and to perpetuate racial conflict rather than to get rid of it another level larry sinclair And Donald Young. 0.91

00:48:36.000 Donald Young, the choir master of that church, found dead right before Christmas of last year.

00:48:42.000 He was the gay choir master in Wright's Church. 0.71

00:48:45.000 Larry Sinclair is a gay man who said that he had a homosexual encounter twice with Obama in 1999, with Obama using crack cocaine.

00:48:55.000 I would urge people to look into Larry Sinclair, his allegations.

00:48:59.000 It's been up on the internet since the middle of January.

00:49:02.000 Millions and millions of hits on that.

00:49:04.000 He gave a press conference here at the National Press Club and was then arrested.

00:49:08.000 Arrested on a warrant signed by Beau Biden, the Attorney General of Delaware, son of Joe Biden, the Senator who's trying to become either Vice President... And it turned out it was fake, yeah.

00:49:19.000 It's trumped up charges, but they're continuing to persecute him.

00:49:23.000 Larry Sinclair is in danger and he deserves the support of people who don't want to have a presidential campaign under Gestapo conditions.

00:49:30.000 Another layer, Ilya Sakhmatov is a Chechen ambassador of the Chechen terrorist group.

00:49:36.000 They've killed more than a thousand people.

00:49:39.000 Ilya Sakhmatov is living here in Washington at U.S.

00:49:41.000 government expense, taxpayer expense, He gets an apartment, a secretary, an office, a travel budget, a PR budget, and a nice stipend that most people could not afford.

00:49:51.000 And the reason he's here is because Big New Brzezinski lobbied, because Big New Brzezinski is so consumed by hatred of Russia that he wants Akhmadov here.

00:49:59.000 And others.

00:50:00.000 And then we have this Get Whitey tape, the famous Hate Whitey tape by Michelle Obama, which is clearly in the air and is likely to be brought out after the Democratic Convention is over.

00:50:12.000 I would just say to the people on the Republican side, don't be like that Japanese admiral at the Battle of Midway trying to get everything perfect before you launch the attack, because you may get hit first, as the Eliot Spitzer case shows.

00:50:24.000 So that tape is in the background.

00:50:25.000 So we've got at least Six or seven layers.

00:50:28.000 All right, Webster, stay there.

00:50:29.000 We just got 20 minutes left.

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00:52:41.000 Hey, Tarpley, have you seen my new film, Endgame, yet?

00:52:44.000 I'm afraid I haven't.

00:52:45.000 I've been just doing Obama, Waldo, Waldo, Obama.

00:52:48.000 Let me tell you one thing, though, Alex.

00:52:50.000 In Amsterdam, I was just in Amsterdam, Holland, last Tuesday, to give a talk in the series.

00:52:55.000 They had their docs at the docks.

00:52:58.000 They have it every couple of months.

00:52:59.000 They'd had Cynthia McKinney, they'd had a few others, and eventually they got to me.

00:53:03.000 The main anti-Bilderberg publisher in the Netherlands is a guy called René van Praag.

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00:53:12.000 And he gave me an idea that I wanted to share with you that you should write a book in addition to everything else you've done.

00:53:19.000 You should somehow boil down your approach to things into a book and he would be Interested in looking into it with you.

00:53:28.000 He's put out a tremendous thing.

00:53:29.000 It's a comic book called Agent Orange.

00:53:31.000 It's an attack on Prince Bernard, the founder of the Bilderberger Group, showing Bernard as an SA, stormtrooper, and otherwise, you know, Nazi, back in the 1920s and 30s.

00:53:43.000 So, the guy's got some pretty good things going in his publishing house.

00:53:47.000 So, maybe you need to get into the book dimension in addition to everything else.

00:53:53.000 I did put Dissent and Deterrenting out, and we are working on a book right now, 1984-1776 is the name of it, and it's basically an overview of everything we do and what our philosophy is, so that's a good idea.

00:54:04.000 Let's cover any other issues you think are important, Webster, before we take calls.

00:54:10.000 Just one more, just so people can keep on top of it.

00:54:13.000 The face of false flag terrorism in the future, right?

00:54:16.000 Again, I don't think it's going to be Islamic fundamentalist anymore.

00:54:20.000 The only place they use Islamic fundamentalism now is to invade Northwest Pakistan. 0.99

00:54:26.000 But let me just tick off a bunch of faces, and then you can put together the composite of the next false flag.

00:54:33.000 One of the reasons the ruling elite wants Obama is they think with Obama, you could do false flag again, because Obama could say it, and then they would believe it.

00:54:42.000 Whereas if McCain or Hillary said it, they wouldn't believe it.

00:54:45.000 And that was in the Atlantic Monthly from Andrew Sullivan.

00:54:48.000 The new face, the Unabomber, right? 0.99

00:54:51.000 Ecological terrorism, Earth First, this kind of stuff.

00:54:54.000 Secondly, the guy that I just mentioned, Ilyas Akhmedov, as a figure for Chechen terrorism, and of course it's not just Chechen terrorism against the Russians, but it's every little group, the Basques, the Kurds, it's every group that wants This is Brzezinski's slogan, is that everybody deserves a mini-state or a micro-state, according to their own personal characteristics.

00:55:18.000 And that, of course, means the balkanization of the world, so that JPMorgan Chase and ExxonMobil can run wild.

00:55:26.000 That's the Roman management system.

00:55:28.000 Yes.

00:55:29.000 And again, the Bernard Lewis plan, of course, just balkanization, right?

00:55:33.000 Divide and conquer. 0.98

00:55:34.000 Kazmierczak.

00:55:35.000 Remember him?

00:55:36.000 The Northern Illinois shooter.

00:55:38.000 The guy who was a student who had left-wing social concerns.

00:55:42.000 He was concerned about social justice.

00:55:45.000 And, of course, Cho.

00:55:47.000 The shooter at Virginia Tech. 0.85

00:55:49.000 A psychotic student, but of course, look at him. 0.98

00:55:52.000 He looks like he's Chinese. 0.97

00:55:53.000 He's Korean, but close enough.

00:55:55.000 He's not a Manchurian shooter.

00:55:57.000 He's a Korean shooter right next door. 1.00

00:56:00.000 A Chinese who's crazy and who's shooting. 1.00

00:56:03.000 Another one, Litvinenko, Litvinenko of the KGB, remember him, the radiological terrorism case in London, so a Russian with nuclear terrorism. 0.64

00:56:15.000 And then finally this FARC, right, the Betancourt, they did a whole media circus around This guerrilla movement supported to some degree by Venezuela, or at least verbally, that operates inside Colombia.

00:56:27.000 The goal there is typical Brzezinski.

00:56:29.000 When a neocon looks at Venezuela, the neocon says, bomb them right away, invade them.

00:56:34.000 Brzezinski says, you can't do that, you're too weak, you're too bankrupt, you're too isolated, don't do it.

00:56:40.000 All right, Webster, we're going to take this break and come back with you in the final segment and take phone calls.

00:56:45.000 Everybody stay with us.

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01:00:07.000 Final segment with Webster Griffin Tarpley. - Hmm?

01:00:23.000 I did find his Canada speech.

01:00:29.000 Very interesting, to say the least.

01:00:31.000 You just type into Google v911truth.org and watch it.

01:00:35.000 It's very interesting.

01:00:36.000 I'm watching some clips during the breaks, but I did identify and find that.

01:00:39.000 But I can understand his fears and looking for the establishment, trying to find some popular movement to hijack, but that certainly wasn't Ron Paul.

01:00:49.000 That certainly wasn't what we saw there, and that was clear to me, and I think he's been very, very healthy for the planet and for people out there to think and understand the Federal Reserve is not their friend, the inflation tax, everything that's happening.

01:01:02.000 I want to go to Peggy Lynn, Don, Nina, and others here in a moment.

01:01:05.000 Webster, in the 15 minutes or so we have left, or 14 minutes we have left with you, but In closing, what do you think is going to happen with the economy?

01:01:16.000 What are the bankers that own the planet planning to do with that?

01:01:19.000 We know it's a carbon tax paid directly to them and some other things, but I want Webster Tarpley's take on that.

01:01:24.000 Well, the Obama program, as he suggested in that no SUVs, no eating as much as you want, no setting the temperature where you want, is going to be extreme austerity, but with left cover.

01:01:37.000 For the polar bears to save the planet, global warming, this entire demagogic package of Al Gore and And Prince Charles.

01:01:45.000 So he'll be demanding global austerity for global warming.

01:01:50.000 By the way, let me just show people this.

01:01:52.000 This is Infowars.net story.

01:01:53.000 British kids encouraged to become climate cops.

01:01:56.000 Ads in all the major newspapers saying, report on your parents, create a dossier on them, watch them, report on them.

01:02:02.000 They wear red, black and white uniforms with khaki Nazi outfits.

01:02:06.000 And there's a polar bear there behind them.

01:02:08.000 Who's their buddy?

01:02:10.000 Or a panda, of course.

01:02:13.000 So anyway, it's going to be killer austerity, crushing austerity.

01:02:17.000 My calculation is the U.S. 0.50

01:02:18.000 living standard is already down 60% from the LBJ period approximately.

01:02:23.000 And now they'd like to cut that in half again under the auspices now of left cover.

01:02:29.000 If there's a strike wave, they want Obama in the White House to be able to break A nationwide strike wave or general strike, which might well emerge.

01:02:38.000 And on the global scale, it's the same thing.

01:02:41.000 Now, none of this will make any difference, because remember, what's coming down is one thousand trillion of derivatives.

01:02:47.000 One quadrillion of derivatives have gone into reverse leverage.

01:02:50.000 And the total crisis, according to other economists we talked to, is six thousand trillion.

01:03:01.000 Well, that's an interesting figure.

01:03:04.000 I'm just going by derivatives, and I think the best estimate I could get is about 1 quadrillion.

01:03:11.000 So it's 1,000 trillion, but I would perfectly, I was assuming to me that it would probably be up to 1.2, 1.5, if it were up to 6.

01:03:18.000 Who says 6, Alex?

01:03:22.000 Well, I've had a lot of different guests on saying the total amount of debt packages, credit cards, mortgages, all the different types of derivatives and leveraging out there, they say it's around $6,000 trillion.

01:03:34.000 So we're talking $6 quadrillion.

01:03:35.000 Well, that of course makes it even worse.

01:03:37.000 You can see, the value of the... Well, no, you're right.

01:03:40.000 I mean, you're right.

01:03:40.000 They say with just derivatives alone, certain types, we're at $1,000.

01:03:46.000 Well, this obviously is a black hole that can consume the Earth, because the total value of the planet Earth and everything in it, at current rates, is about 100 trillion at the very most.

01:03:56.000 So 6,000 trillion, you can see you're just out of the ballpark.

01:04:00.000 There is no way to use austerity to prop up these bankrupt structures.

01:04:05.000 No, they're just preparing us to be slaves.

01:04:07.000 But they're going to try.

01:04:09.000 And it will fail.

01:04:10.000 So you'll have basically the decline of civilization unless somebody stops it.

01:04:14.000 Now, in the middle of all that, though, I would say, remember, defeat the number one option of Wall Street.

01:04:19.000 It's clearly Obama.

01:04:21.000 Obama is the facelift for imperialism.

01:04:23.000 He's the credibility for false flag.

01:04:25.000 He's the ability to carry out austerity and strike-breaking on the home front.

01:04:29.000 If you defeat Obama, you will have defeated the entire banking establishment and the controlled corporate media.

01:04:35.000 That would then lead to an open field Period.

01:04:38.000 Again, if it were McCain, it would be a period of intense fighting and gridlock between the Congress and the President, which would be ideal for radicalizing things, in my view, in a New Deal direction, so that you'd get powerful measures for economic recovery that cannot be this free market stuff, but have to be powerful state interventions to get things going again.

01:05:01.000 In other words, what worked In the 1930s and what would work again is distinct from, well, Bush.

01:05:06.000 Bush is a reincarnation of Herbert Hoover.

01:05:08.000 I disagree with you on the Webster.

01:05:10.000 I agree with everything you've said about the world, you know, geopolitical landscape, what's happening, who's behind what.

01:05:15.000 And just like Ron Paul disagrees with you, I disagree with your solution of more government.

01:05:21.000 Now I understand the magical plan of angels in government that would direct the largess towards the people and redistribute it.

01:05:29.000 It isn't going to work.

01:05:31.000 The New World Order crowd controlled the left and the right.

01:05:33.000 They controlled the attempted fascist coup with Bush's grandfather behind it.

01:05:37.000 And they controlled FDR. 0.63

01:05:40.000 And so that's where we really differ, Webster.

01:05:42.000 I think it's a mistake to say they controlled FDR.

01:05:44.000 They tried to kill him even before he got into office with that attempted assassination in Miami.

01:05:49.000 And then they tried to organize the Morgan coup to overthrow him.

01:05:53.000 As the McCormick-Dixton Committee showed.

01:05:56.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Peggy in Pennsylvania. 0.57

01:06:00.000 Peggy, you're on the air.

01:06:03.000 Alex, sometimes Lately I'm beginning to think that this show is just another disinformation show and I'll tell you why.

01:06:10.000 It's much ado about nothing.

01:06:13.000 Ron Paul came along and he seemed to be the perfect candidate for the typical American.

01:06:17.000 Intelligent as well as just a normal type of guy.

01:06:21.000 But all of a sudden he steps down with no... and it was a surprise to all of us.

01:06:26.000 Mr. Tarp, please.

01:06:27.000 Hold on, hold on, man.

01:06:28.000 You made quite a claim here.

01:06:29.000 Ron Paul lost.

01:06:31.000 And we all asked him to run, so we can't be mad at him for not, quote, winning.

01:06:36.000 But he did win tens of millions of hearts and minds.

01:06:39.000 And people did find out about the New World Order and the North American Union and the Trans-Texas Corridor that's in trouble now.

01:06:44.000 I mean, that's just an amazing...

01:06:46.000 We have all different types of guests and ideas here.

01:06:49.000 And this is a place for you to think, a place for you to find information and check what we say.

01:06:53.000 I mean, I'm doing the best I can.

01:06:55.000 I'm working 18 hours a day here.

01:06:57.000 Alex, he lost because of the corruption in the government.

01:07:01.000 I I'm not going to mention any particular... So how are we bad right now?

01:07:05.000 I want to hear it from you.

01:07:06.000 Alright, I'll tell you.

01:07:08.000 I saw the takeover of Ohio from my own perspective and I know who did it.

01:07:12.000 I won't mention any names or anything like that.

01:07:15.000 But there is a force behind this that is not being mentioned.

01:07:20.000 And Mr. Tarpley, for instance, claims that he wants Hillary as a substitute because she's easier... Wait a minute, ma'am. 0.98

01:07:27.000 Let me ask you a question, Peggy.

01:07:28.000 Did we screen your phone call?

01:07:30.000 Uh, yeah.

01:07:31.000 He knew it was me, if that's what you're asking.

01:07:33.000 Pardon me?

01:07:34.000 The guy that answered me knows my voice and he knew it was me.

01:07:38.000 Let's bring John in here right now.

01:07:39.000 Ma'am, we don't screen phone calls.

01:07:41.000 Alex, please don't do this.

01:07:42.000 Are you a schizophrenic? 0.93

01:07:44.000 Let me guess, I bet you think the world revolves around you and we all know who you are. 0.99

01:07:48.000 Ma'am, I don't know you from Adam.

01:07:49.000 Alex, shame on you. 1.00

01:07:51.000 Shame on your lies. 1.00

01:07:52.000 Are you a schizophrenic? 1.00

01:07:53.000 I never thought that you would... You are a schizophrenic, aren't you, you nutcase? 1.00

01:07:57.000 How dare you, Alex? 1.00

01:07:58.000 All right, let her go. 0.99

01:07:59.000 Bring John Harmon in here.

01:08:00.000 You know, I'm tired of these schizophrenics on the internet. 1.00

01:08:02.000 I am really sick of them and their craziness and the fact that people will believe them. 0.96

01:08:07.000 They call in here.

01:08:09.000 One yesterday called and said the Earth orbits around her and, you know, basically they're the Queen of England and that's the end of it.

01:08:14.000 And they call in here and then we don't screen your calls and they lie and say we do.

01:08:19.000 John Harmon, come in here.

01:08:20.000 Yeah, the question was, do we screen calls?

01:08:22.000 And she answered, yes.

01:08:24.000 I did recognize her voice because she calls in every day, but that doesn't mean we screen calls.

01:08:29.000 We put her on air.

01:08:30.000 I don't know who she is.

01:08:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:08:32.000 We put her on air, asked for her name and where she's calling from, and that's it.

01:08:35.000 And she volunteered.

01:08:36.000 She said she disagreed with you and Tarpley.

01:08:40.000 So she went to the head of the line, and that was it.

01:08:43.000 Okay, well that's a rarity, because I don't recognize her as a routine call that you did know who she was.

01:08:48.000 Ma'am, we put you on air for her to then accuse us of being bad, and it's just a diversion.

01:08:52.000 You have dollars imploding, everything's falling apart, and a bunch of people out there can't stay focused on real issues.

01:08:58.000 Alex, we have schizophrenia, of course, but then we have the most dangerous form of schizophrenia is megalomania.

01:09:06.000 Right?

01:09:06.000 The Emperor, Nero, Napoleon, people like that.

01:09:09.000 And that's what Obama has.

01:09:10.000 That's what Obama has, absolutely.

01:09:12.000 Yeah, my whole issue is that this is a show, a platform for you, the listeners, and our guests, and I take a call and it's You know, we know who she is.

01:09:24.000 I don't know who you are, ma'am.

01:09:26.000 And that you're saying that we won't say who really runs things, but then you won't.

01:09:29.000 You could have said whatever you wanted here, but you chose to do that, and that's part of the meltdown of our society.

01:09:34.000 Let's talk to Lynn in Toronto.

01:09:36.000 Lynn, you're on the air, go ahead.

01:09:39.000 Go ahead, Lynn.

01:09:41.000 Hiya, I'm not an ex-queen at all, I'm just Lynn.

01:09:43.000 Lynn, did we screen your phone call?

01:09:45.000 Nope, he just said, thank you, please hold, I'll put you through.

01:09:48.000 Now I'm tired of being accused of this, go ahead.

01:09:50.000 At no point have you screened my numbers, you know, and that woman, she seems to me, she could not be specific about anything, you know, and I find the people I'm fighting with up here, same thing, they hit you with a bunch of things, and I think just trying to make... What's happening is, some of the zombies are being woken up, and I'm not trying to be mean to this lady, but I mean others, and they know the government's bad now, but then they can't tell what else is going on.

01:10:12.000 Tarpley, you ever run into that?

01:10:14.000 Well, you have these Obama trolls, right? 0.93

01:10:16.000 That's what I find. 0.92

01:10:18.000 Oh, you think that might be it?

01:10:19.000 She doesn't like it?

01:10:20.000 Yeah, sure.

01:10:21.000 As soon as you're wrapping Obama, a bunch of trolls come out of the woodwork.

01:10:24.000 Oh, he didn't win in Ohio, did he?

01:10:27.000 I'd love to know who took over Ohio.

01:10:29.000 I would have liked to name the names, but maybe another time.

01:10:33.000 Yeah, but what we're censoring here.

01:10:34.000 Okay, anything else?

01:10:36.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, you know, you're always talking about the police and, you know, the fact they're not educated properly and dangerous here and dangerous there.

01:10:44.000 No one ever talks about a group of people, like up here in Canada, we've got them.

01:10:48.000 It's a private corporation and they now have police powers and they're very, very anti-public, like very, very anti-the people.

01:10:56.000 And totally unaccountable.

01:10:58.000 Yeah, they're setting up these citizen squads.

01:11:00.000 They have them in England now.

01:11:02.000 Well, this comes in the form of what they call a humane society.

01:11:04.000 The Toronto Group operated legally for many years.

01:11:07.000 And the government here in Ontario totally sucks up to them. 0.96

01:11:11.000 Totally. 0.99

01:11:11.000 And I'm sitting back and saying, why? 0.99

01:11:12.000 They don't give a damn about animals.

01:11:14.000 Why are they supporting groups who couldn't care less?

01:11:17.000 They've devastated people here in Ontario.

01:11:18.000 Well, they'll use something that sounds reasonable like animals to get you in the process of tattling and spying, then they move it over into regular spying.

01:11:25.000 Do you agree, Webster?

01:11:26.000 Again, I think that the big danger right now is this idea of grassroots movements around extreme ecology, animal rights, anything like this.

01:11:35.000 This can become the breeding ground for the next generation of false flags.

01:11:38.000 Folks, the book is Obama, the Postmodern Coup.

01:11:41.000 Webster Griffin Tarbley.

01:11:42.000 Webster, you're doing a great job.

01:11:43.000 Let me have you up again in the next few weeks for another interview so we can finish up, okay?

01:11:46.000 I'd be delighted, Alex.

01:11:48.000 Thank you very much.

01:11:48.000 All right, we're going to call you today and set you back up.

01:11:50.000 Thank you, Webster.

01:11:51.000 All right, we'll be back.

01:11:52.000 I've got a key Willie Nelson announcement and then Mark Hornke.

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01:16:25.000 We're going to be putting out more information by the end of the week, more specifics.

01:16:38.000 Fix.

01:16:39.000 You'll probably hear Willie Nelson back on Friday or maybe even on the Sunday show to announce it in his own words.

01:16:50.000 You know, he was here in studio with us last Wednesday.

01:16:57.000 We had him on air last Wednesday.

01:17:00.000 And I had been wanting to have him on about the impeachment hearings about, you know, pushing to not attack Iran.

01:17:04.000 I called him up that Wednesday and said, well, I'll just come on today.

01:17:07.000 So we had him on, and a caller called in.

01:17:09.000 I thought about this privately, but subconsciously didn't want all the work and the craziness of a big event.

01:17:14.000 Plus, I don't like asking celebrities for things very often.

01:17:17.000 And the caller says, why don't you have some type of anti-war slash 9-11 truth event?

01:17:22.000 And Willie Nelson said, I do that in a minute.

01:17:25.000 So I said, well, let's do it.

01:17:26.000 And on air he said, OK, let's look at seeing if we can do it.

01:17:29.000 And Willie isn't somebody who, I mean, everything you've heard about him is really the way he is.

01:17:35.000 I mean, somebody can drive by and flip him off and throw something in his car and he'll say, well, that fellow's having a bad day.

01:17:41.000 I mean, he's really just smooth, great guy.

01:17:44.000 And he's been anti-establishment for a long time, but I've now learned for ten years he's been listening to the show, watching the TV show in Austin, he lives here most of the year in Hawaii, the rest of it, and really woke up to the New World Order.

01:17:56.000 And then I was having an event a few I guess about eight months ago, when Endgame came out, and all of a sudden people said, Willie Nelson's here!

01:18:05.000 And I was like, yeah, right.

01:18:05.000 And all of a sudden Willie Nelson walked around the back counter where I was signing DVDs and shook my hand and said, I really appreciate the great job you're doing.

01:18:12.000 And I gave him my info, he gave me his, and he said, I'll be talking to you.

01:18:16.000 A few months later he called me and then was a guest on the show and the rest is history.

01:18:19.000 But to make a long story short, I started talking to him Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

01:18:26.000 We are doing an event.

01:18:29.000 It's locked in.

01:18:31.000 and uh... it is going to be a free event it is going to be free a free Willie Nelson event And he is basically, I said, hey, you're the boss, you tell me what to do or you have somebody else do it and I'll try to, you know, raise the money for the free event or whatever.

01:18:46.000 He said, no.

01:18:47.000 He said, you know, you just basically run it.

01:18:50.000 Invite a bunch of big bands.

01:18:51.000 I'll invite some friends of mine.

01:18:53.000 Once they hear I'm involved, a lot of big groups are going to want to come.

01:18:55.000 He's got Firemaid coming up with Neil Young and a bunch of other people, September 20th.

01:18:59.000 This is going to be in October.

01:19:01.000 I will tell you that it is going to be in October.

01:19:05.000 That is when you're going to have this event.

01:19:08.000 I was going to announce it tomorrow, but things got nailed down today.

01:19:11.000 But still, for reasons of espionage and other things, I'm not going to get into specifics probably until Friday or maybe even next week.

01:19:21.000 But this kind of emails I get from Willie, I've talked to him of course personally over the phone, but emails as well back and forth.

01:19:26.000 Why don't you put out the word that we are looking for other acts and let's see who wants to play.

01:19:31.000 I think there'll be a lot, thanks Willie.

01:19:33.000 And that's in response to my email.

01:19:35.000 I'm glad that we've nailed down the date.

01:19:38.000 I'm going to call Ventura tomorrow to give him the date.

01:19:40.000 I gotta do that when I get off air today.

01:19:42.000 The bleep of 11 is only two and a half months away, so I don't want to wait too long getting the details on how you want this to go down.

01:19:50.000 And that was the response to this that he sent me here.

01:19:52.000 And also, he said he wants it to be a free event.

01:19:55.000 Another email yesterday.

01:19:56.000 I'm supposed to call in the last two days.

01:19:58.000 I'm so busy I can't even call Willie Nelson up.

01:20:00.000 I'm going to be doing that after the show today.

01:20:04.000 And I've got to call Ventura.

01:20:05.000 He already said he would come in September or October.

01:20:07.000 He leaves back to Mexico in November.

01:20:10.000 Ventura going public for 9-11 Truth here.

01:20:12.000 You may see some other big people go public for 9-11 Truth at this.

01:20:16.000 It's going to be about 80% don't attack Iran, don't take us into World War III, but it's also going to be 9-11 Truth when you've got a Ventura and some other surprise guests that are going to be coming.

01:20:25.000 And this stuff falls right in my lap.

01:20:27.000 I mean, it is providence, ladies and gentlemen.

01:20:30.000 It is providence and We could have a paid event for $10 or whatever, guaranteed $30,000 or $40,000 will show up.

01:20:37.000 The place we've got can take $60,000, but there's not parking for $60,000.

01:20:42.000 There's parking for about $35,000.

01:20:44.000 So folks, you better understand that you're going to have to get bussed in or something to this, because this sucker's capacity is exactly $60,000.

01:20:52.000 And I think we're going to fill it.

01:20:55.000 So, I mean, this is going to be absolutely incredible.

01:20:59.000 Alejandro Jones.

01:21:02.000 Willie's coming in with his whole band.

01:21:03.000 Some other big people are probably going to be coming in.

01:21:06.000 That's a big donation for them.

01:21:08.000 I mean, their crews are costing them 20, 30 grand per event.

01:21:12.000 So they're already giving huge amounts.

01:21:13.000 Willie is and everybody else through that.

01:21:15.000 I've got a...

01:21:16.000 I'm just going to spend my kids' college money on this.

01:21:19.000 No, we're probably going to have t-shirt sales there.

01:21:22.000 Hopefully that'll pay for it.

01:21:23.000 If not, I'm going to pay for it.

01:21:23.000 I'm not going to ask for donations for it at this time.

01:21:25.000 It's just, we're doing it.

01:21:26.000 It's free, baby.

01:21:28.000 And that's the way it goes.

01:21:29.000 Ha ha! 0.86

01:21:30.000 And I'm not going to let anybody in on exactly the date yet.

01:21:33.000 But you'll probably hear Nelson pop in in the near future.

01:21:36.000 What a show today.

01:21:36.000 Webster Tarpley.

01:21:37.000 We've had Stan Monteith and Lindsey Williams on.

01:21:41.000 We've got Webster Tarpley coming on again next week.

01:21:44.000 And we've got Mark Kornke in studio.

01:21:46.000 Hold on.

01:21:46.000 On the march, the empire's on the run.

01:21:49.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:21:53.000 Come in with that.

01:21:55.000 I'm not going to ask for donations for it at this time.

01:21:57.000 It's just, we're doing it.

01:21:58.000 It's free, baby!

01:22:00.000 And, uh, that's the way it goes!

01:22:02.000 Ha-ha! 1.00

01:22:03.000 And I'm not going to let anybody in on exactly the date yet, but you'll probably hear Nelson pop in in the near future.

01:22:08.000 What a show today!

01:22:09.000 Webster Tarpley, we've had, uh... Stan Monteith and Lindsey Williams on.

01:22:14.000 We've got Webster, uh, Tarpley coming on again next week, and we've got Mark Kornegay in studio!

01:22:18.000 We're on the march.

01:22:20.000 The Empire's on the run.

01:22:22.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:22:28.000 Listener, ask yourself, can I be deceived?

01:22:31.000 Matthew 24 states four times.

01:22:33.000 In the last days, many will be deceived.

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01:22:47.000 Is its mark an implanted chip, a tattoo, The National ID Card, or 666, is the Antichrist a person, title, or both?

01:22:55.000 Some believe these things are in the future.

01:22:57.000 Others believe that it's in the past.

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01:23:27.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

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01:23:33.000 9-11 was an inside job.

01:23:35.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

01:23:36.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

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01:23:41.000 was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C4R.

01:23:45.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

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01:24:31.000 First, I get the best parking space at work.

01:24:34.000 Tonight, I have a date with a very lovely Rachel.

01:24:37.000 And today, I gave a killer presentation in Sydney, finalized a contract in London, and demoed our new product in Boston.

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01:25:02.000 She's all alone.

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01:25:06.000 We are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy to get people actually to love their servitude.

01:25:22.000 People can be made to enjoy a state of affairs which By any decent standard, they ought not to enjoy.

01:25:31.000 Perhaps you had better start from the beginning.

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01:26:27.000 Any attempt to achieve world order must be the work of the devil.

01:26:32.000 Well, join me.

01:26:33.000 I'm glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.

01:26:35.000 There's a need for a new world order.

01:26:38.000 Someday, in the next few years, a solution will emerge.

01:27:07.000 Willie Nelson was saying in an email last night to go ahead and announce it.

01:27:14.000 Then I got another one from him about 10 minutes ago that I just read during the break about another location.

01:27:22.000 So, you know what?

01:27:25.000 It might be a place with 20,000, a place with 60,000.

01:27:27.000 We're trying to nail this down.

01:27:28.000 So whoever puts a YouTube together, my earlier announcement, make sure that it's on there.

01:27:32.000 That's why this stuff just makes me pull my hair out, because that's why I don't even subconsciously want to do things like this, because then I have to worry about making sure it comes off right.

01:27:40.000 We were just playing Walter Cronkite, calling for world government and saying he sits at the right hand of Satan.

01:27:45.000 These people are in your face, another Bohemian Grove member.

01:27:50.000 What a wild day!

01:27:51.000 I found out last night Because one of my engineers went down to the event.

01:27:56.000 He called me and said, Oh, I was just down at Brave New Books.

01:27:58.000 Mark Kornke was in town.

01:27:59.000 I said, Oh, is it still going?

01:28:01.000 He said, No, it's about to end.

01:28:02.000 I don't have time to go down there, but I want to meet him in person.

01:28:04.000 I feel like I know him.

01:28:05.000 I've interviewed him so many times over the years, going back into the mid-90s.

01:28:09.000 And then when he got back out of prison being set up now, I said, Try to set him up for tomorrow.

01:28:14.000 Well, they were able to get him before he left town.

01:28:16.000 He's with us for the rest of this hour.

01:28:17.000 And we're going to go into overdrive today.

01:28:19.000 We're on AM and FM right now, but in about 25 minutes, the main transmission will end.

01:28:23.000 But we'll do about 20 minutes of overdrive.

01:28:25.000 I'd do 5 hours of overdrive if Corky could do it.

01:28:27.000 Also, I have to deal with this concert and about 10 other insane things that are going on right now.

01:28:35.000 So as we try to Finally nailed down this concert that's going on, and I want it to be free, they want it to be free too, but who knows what's going to happen here when you're dealing with superstars like this.

01:28:46.000 But getting into the whole geopolitical realm, Mark Kornke, in studio with us.

01:28:51.000 Mark, good to have you here.

01:28:52.000 Hey, nice to have you, Alex.

01:28:53.000 You know what, it's always fun to be down here, because down here in Texas we know it's the big state, and it's got big hearts, and we've got big hospitality.

01:29:00.000 That's exactly what we've seen all the while we've been here.

01:29:02.000 We're down here going crazy, man.

01:29:03.000 And getting hot, too, because, guys, you can fry out on the pavement right now.

01:29:07.000 Not quite as much as Arizona, but it's getting close there.

01:29:09.000 So we brought eggs, bacon, and if it's a little warmer here after one, we'll do just fine.

01:29:14.000 But, yeah, it's been a great time.

01:29:15.000 We've been here.

01:29:16.000 Appreciate it.

01:29:16.000 And I want to say thank you to all the people who made it possible, because, you know, we've been flying on the cuff.

01:29:21.000 We haven't really set a schedule.

01:29:22.000 Everybody that's needed us here, we've taken care of it.

01:29:26.000 Mark, you're here in person.

01:29:27.000 What has it been like in your life when she woke up to the New World Order in the late 80s and now, you know, being one of the leaders of the re-founding of the Patriot community exploding in the 90s, being sent to prison on trumped-up charges with the police on their own squad car running off the road.

01:29:42.000 I mean, it's been quite a saga for you and I think it's just beginning.

01:29:46.000 Well, we've actually been very, very busy, as you know, and as you get into this, you find out there's so much more to do, and that's exciting in and of itself, because you get a chance to meet all the people that are out there, and there's a lot of people, like you said, that have been in this before us, that passed the torch on, and we're now doing the job that they did at one time.

01:30:04.000 In fact, they didn't have the tools we have.

01:30:07.000 Look at the great trinkets we have to work with, that way they get the word out.

01:30:10.000 In the past, remember, it used to be, would you like to see a mimeograph?

01:30:14.000 Think about a U.N.

01:30:15.000 document, State Department document 7277.

01:30:17.000 Right, exactly, and it would be the one thing that they had to work with.

01:30:20.000 Today, we have virtually every media tool at our disposal that our enemy hoped to manipulate and control.

01:30:26.000 And our enemy was in the old mindset where they could go to a world governance conference and where all these world leaders and Walter Cronkite could call for world government.

01:30:33.000 Now we can go get those old tapes and string 20 of them together with Prime Ministers and leaders calling for it and saying, oh, that doesn't exist.

01:30:39.000 Or we can, through Judicial Watch, go sue and get North American Union documents.

01:30:43.000 In the past we did that, but you said to hand them out.

01:30:46.000 Now we can give them to millions.

01:30:47.000 Right.

01:30:47.000 And the other fascinating thing is, don't forget that while Walter was telling you all about certain things from one direction, he's also the right hand of Satan!

01:30:54.000 In his own words.

01:30:55.000 Can you believe he said that?

01:30:57.000 Well, again, you know, we remember, wasn't it with Bohemian Grove, as I recall, who was the voice in the background for so many years?

01:31:04.000 Walter Cronkite.

01:31:06.000 So, let's see.

01:31:07.000 Don't care! 0.93

01:31:08.000 So, do you think, when people use certain words, especially when you see a statement made like that, even if he was trying to work off the cuff, that inventory, that process that he used that became a public statement, was sitting somewhere in his subconscious in some way.

01:31:22.000 He didn't just pull that out of his back pocket.

01:31:26.000 Usually that represents or demonstrates a mindset, a track, an ideology, a school of thought.

01:31:33.000 And when you capture it like that, they figure it's a nano-moment that will never be captured and brought back again.

01:31:38.000 After all, it's futile resistance.

01:31:39.000 Because that was done before the internet age.

01:31:41.000 That's right.

01:31:42.000 Now we brought it back from the end of the future.

01:31:45.000 And that's one of the things for a lot of your listeners right now.

01:31:47.000 There's a lot of new people that are out there listening maybe for the first time.

01:31:51.000 But let's say that they've gotten to the internet because they're retired.

01:31:55.000 Now, you're listening out there right now and you have a collection of beta tapes, or VHS tapes, or you were in an industry where you even saved part of what you did reel-to-reel.

01:32:06.000 Or old satellite feeds.

01:32:07.000 That's right.

01:32:07.000 There are old files sitting there where people are listening, and when you hear what you hear on the programming like this during the breaks or when we come back... It hits a tumbler.

01:32:15.000 Right.

01:32:15.000 We need your help, too, because you may have the rest of what we don't have.

01:32:20.000 And remember that if you can access and work together with us, we're going to get it out.

01:32:25.000 And now it won't be just that nanobyte back in 1964.

01:32:29.000 Now it's the truth brought forward to the year 2008.

01:32:33.000 Think of what a tool that is.

01:32:34.000 And it's happening more and more.

01:32:36.000 That's right.

01:32:36.000 So it's changing the dynamics of the battlefield, which is what we've been doing.

01:32:40.000 The other side, well, let's put it this way.

01:32:41.000 I walk all over the place.

01:32:43.000 I go all over the place.

01:32:44.000 And I also make a point of doing something everybody listening should do.

01:32:47.000 Do not hesitate to speak.

01:32:50.000 Silence and inaction is consent.

01:32:53.000 That's right.

01:32:54.000 It is action.

01:32:55.000 That's the best way to describe it.

01:32:56.000 Remember, the lack of motion is not an inaction.

01:32:59.000 The lack of motion is one of many choices.

01:33:02.000 If you fail to move, your enemy can either... There are two situations.

01:33:06.000 You can fail.

01:33:06.000 You can stop the motion so that you allow your enemy to move into a position where you can attack them better.

01:33:12.000 If you fail to move, and they're on the offensive, you simply become enveloped and overrun.

01:33:17.000 Well, in this case, the whole idea, there's a lot of people out there with all this cool technology that they may have used in the past, and they're thinking, well, it's obsolete!

01:33:23.000 I've got MP3, I've got... No!

01:33:26.000 You have sound bites and you have bits of information and evidence that incriminate and demonstrate over and over again the true culpability of an enemy that we've been facing off and successfully working against.

01:33:37.000 Think about what we've done in the last 20 years.

01:33:39.000 Think about what we've done in the last 10 years.

01:33:41.000 And again, look at the personalities that are coming forward, just like you've described in the program here, that are actually able to lever many, many other people.

01:33:51.000 Now I'm going to say this.

01:33:52.000 Alex, you've got a lot of people.

01:33:53.000 If you have one personality that comes forward, consider this.

01:33:56.000 It's kind of like when government says, well, I've got four letters in the mail, and people say, well, that's not significant.

01:34:01.000 Wrong.

01:34:02.000 The old formula was, if they got four letters on a subject, they knew that so many hundred thousand people were actually thinking the same thoughts.

01:34:09.000 In every situation, just like with these personalities, if you're affecting one or two people that will more than willingly come forward and express their position, That means that there are hundreds if not thousands of others that, given that final push, become part of the wave that supports your effort.

01:34:26.000 And that's what's happening right now.

01:34:27.000 That's what you're on the edge of.

01:34:28.000 Most everybody can see this.

01:34:29.000 They sense it.

01:34:30.000 They feel it.

01:34:31.000 They smell it.

01:34:31.000 They touch it.

01:34:31.000 They taste it.

01:34:33.000 And that's where we are with why everybody must speak out.

01:34:37.000 Don't worry about the character that was ridiculing you a year and a half ago.

01:34:40.000 You know what he does now?

01:34:41.000 He does this, Alex.

01:34:42.000 He looks down at the ground.

01:34:44.000 He'll look over anyone, but he will not look at you when you're speaking.

01:34:48.000 Well, that is the phenomenon now.

01:34:49.000 Yes.

01:34:50.000 But not just looking down, so many people replanted those seeds.

01:34:53.000 You know, in farming, you might have seeds from two years ago, ten years ago, six years ago, that are called volunteers.

01:35:00.000 They sprout up later.

01:35:01.000 Or they wash up underneath something and then wash back out.

01:35:05.000 And that's the same thing.

01:35:06.000 We've planted billions of seeds.

01:35:08.000 Millions sprouted before, now millions more are sprouting.

01:35:11.000 And it's almost like we're putting, in the infowar, landmines out.

01:35:14.000 But these landmines don't kill people, they unlock minds.

01:35:17.000 Knock down walls.

01:35:18.000 Exactly, in people's minds.

01:35:19.000 And so now, we have littered everything with these landmines, and it is unlocking people's minds.

01:35:25.000 It is, you know, the tumblers are unlocking, and they're remembering everything we told them, everything we said, and it's all happening.

01:35:30.000 Exactly.

01:35:31.000 And the most important thing is, this is part of what is the first phase.

01:35:34.000 For years I've argued, it's not like you just walk up a series of steps.

01:35:39.000 Each tier, first of all, you've got to acknowledge the idea that something's different, something's wrong with your environment.

01:35:43.000 And so that's like pulling yourself up to the next step with virtually every ounce of energy you have in your body.

01:35:49.000 You think, ah, now I'm at the plateau where I can see everything.

01:35:52.000 And what you see first is the next step.

01:35:54.000 You realize as you've now opened your eyes, there's something else going on.

01:35:58.000 Mark, what do you think we're going to see happen in the next six months, next year, next two years unfolding?

01:36:03.000 I mean, give us your projection.

01:36:04.000 Well, actually, again, we have the sliding timeline.

01:36:06.000 Number one is we have Jorge Bush, the second, the best president Mexico has probably ever had, and will.

01:36:14.000 We have perhaps a person who's looking to create a duchy out of Texas and the southwestern United States if he would just let the timeline go the way it is.

01:36:21.000 However, as again we're seeing, there are obviously enough people involved in government that are concerned with the idea that somebody wants to be expeditionary before he leaves office.

01:36:30.000 Not of his own accord.

01:36:32.000 George Bush, if he starts a war with Iran, isn't doing it on his own accord.

01:36:36.000 He's being told by somebody else to do this.

01:36:39.000 As is traditionally the case, if he gets us into a conflict overseas, what's the argument?

01:36:44.000 Well, we're already in it!

01:36:45.000 What did we hear with Iraq?

01:36:46.000 Well, now that we're in it, we can't back out!

01:36:49.000 Now, getting us into Iran, especially being a... Isn't he a lame duck? 1.00

01:36:54.000 That would be one option, but here's the problem. 0.90

01:36:56.000 What if... Instead of being a lame duck, he becomes a lion?

01:37:00.000 And decides to grab hold of the meat and stick.

01:37:04.000 And that's the most realistic scenario.

01:37:05.000 Between a combination of an attack inside the United States, a 9-11 type scenario, which everybody's been talking about, and an attack on Iran, which of course would be an aggressive, a war of aggression, just like the first war of aggression we've been in with Iraq. 0.67

01:37:19.000 You're going to see a situation where there will be greater and greater response from outside the United States and the international community.

01:37:25.000 Now, there's two attitudes, and we've already heard this, and you're seeing this.

01:37:28.000 We need to take Americans to the international court. 1.00

01:37:31.000 Now, I understand that that sounds good.

01:37:32.000 And that sets the precedent for it.

01:37:34.000 Well, it's the same thing in England.

01:37:35.000 They have all this tyranny, and then the EU keeps ruling for liberty, but inside the EU it's total tyranny.

01:37:40.000 They're only setting the precedent in people's minds that that's the court of justice.

01:37:44.000 And then all of a sudden we go to a higher tier, alien to the United States, outside American jurisprudence.

01:37:50.000 And so it's, for them, their perception is one way or another they can make this a win-win.

01:37:54.000 In other words, how do you take and turn a, you know, a mud pie into a, you know, something edible? 0.91

01:38:00.000 You have to, you know, one way or another, even though it looks bad for us, for them, they're directing the actions in such a way that if we decided that we're going to, well we can't really deal with this in the American system, we'll take him to the world court.

01:38:12.000 Taking them to the world court means that we then have no... I mean, what's the appeals process for this?

01:38:17.000 Where do you go?

01:38:18.000 And how do you control or regulate a process that is so far away from the people that there is no control or regulation?

01:38:25.000 That once, as we've already seen with centralized American government, If you let all the power gravitate to a position so far away you can't see what's going on, the scallywags gravitate there, how can anybody with any intelligence argue that the United Nations, the World Court, and all of these other structures, who would answer now to no one, wouldn't gravitate to the exact same policy that we are already complaining about with Washington?

01:38:49.000 Well, they constantly do this.

01:38:51.000 Clinton's so evil, Bush is going to come in and save us.

01:38:53.000 Clinton's been so bad, now Bush is the savior.

01:38:57.000 And then, okay, we get George Bush, and now he's been really bad, so Barack Obama is going to save us.

01:39:03.000 And it's the same left-right paradigm, or Tory versus Labor, where they control both sides.

01:39:08.000 And I know this is simple to the listeners, but the general public doesn't understand this.

01:39:12.000 It's literally just a new sheet of paper for the birdcage liner, and then after four to eight years, they remove that piece Or be it six years in England or whatever, and they just remove it.

01:39:22.000 Same thing in Israel, same thing in Germany.

01:39:24.000 We have to get back to basic issues to try to explain this to the public.

01:39:29.000 Issues of liberty.

01:39:30.000 But, you know, a lot of people thought Bill Clinton was going to go for martial law because we saw the plans, the executive orders, the gear up.

01:39:36.000 But that started before even Reagan.

01:39:36.000 He was there.

01:39:38.000 It's just gotten bigger and bigger and bigger now where they could try it, but it may be a Barack Obama that does it.

01:39:43.000 It may be a John McCain.

01:39:45.000 But you're saying you think there's a lot of evidence that it may happen now.

01:39:48.000 Well, that's the first window, is there's a sliding scale.

01:39:51.000 If Bush decides to make the effort to do this, the problem that we have is how many people, for instance, in the military would actually go along with it.

01:39:58.000 Well, if there's a terror attack, even if people are awake, it tends to make a lot of people who are on the fence go ahead and get in line.

01:40:03.000 Right.

01:40:04.000 The way that this would have to be done is, from the military perspective, and other people who are in agencies, even, who do not go along with or agree with what's happening, There would have to be a very quick containment bubble to restrict it from expanding into the crisis mode, which is what they want.

01:40:18.000 And by the way, this isn't a radical thing we're saying under Nixon.

01:40:22.000 The military and others, it was publicly said, and Congress said, do not launch any military operations, do not stage any events.

01:40:28.000 Right, exactly.

01:40:30.000 However, go back before that, just exactly something that everybody has disclosed.

01:40:33.000 You've had it in your videos.

01:40:35.000 Operation Northwood, which goes back before Nixon.

01:40:38.000 And Kennedy said no, and they killed him.

01:40:40.000 And that's where, again, now when people ask, well, why would they have said that to Nixon?

01:40:45.000 Inside the system, they already understood, because of the documents that now have been declassified, they knew within the system that that was a possibility.

01:40:52.000 In fact, it was a probability.

01:40:54.000 On September 12th, in the Washington Post, they had a Pentagon report put out from the Navy.

01:41:00.000 Remember that saying, Israel is capable of staging false flag, staged terror events as a pretext to launch a war in the Middle East.

01:41:08.000 Exactly.

01:41:08.000 Now again, we had those warnings, those leaks slipping out there.

01:41:11.000 Somebody declassified Operation Northwoods when it wasn't supposed to be declassified, slipping things out.

01:41:16.000 So we have a lot of friends inside the government.

01:41:19.000 The system understands that this scenario, if it's played out, if you're an analyst of any kind, if you're a person working within the system in any way with authority or with responsibility, That you can walk through step-by-step to see the end result.

01:41:33.000 And it's so obvious now, it goes back to H.G.

01:41:35.000 Wells, what he stated in The Open Conspiracy.

01:41:39.000 He said, at a given point, it would become so obvious that it would be impossible to hide the agenda.

01:41:45.000 And that at that point, it would be the most dangerous for the Ringknockers, for the, you know, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, whoever, the Bilderbergs, in that what would happen is all of their actions could be seen by even the most naive of individuals, or at least they would ask questions. 0.94

01:41:59.000 The problem is that they're not all-powerful.

01:42:01.000 This is what people make a mistake on.

01:42:02.000 They want everybody to believe that, but that goes back to the basic rules of warfare, be it European philosophy or Asian, that the basic rule is to convince your enemy that the war is lost before the first arrow has left the bow, as you said, Sun Tzu.

01:42:14.000 But we're going to go to break and come back with a final main transmission, and then do 20 minutes if you can do it.

01:42:20.000 Overdrive, just for internet audience alone.

01:42:22.000 PrisonPlanet.tv and InfoWars stream listeners.

01:42:26.000 But you're absolutely right about that, Mark.

01:42:29.000 So we'll come back and get more into those issues with Mark Kornke.

01:42:34.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

01:42:36.000 The websites are InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:42:43.000 We'll also give you Mark's numbers.

01:42:46.000 Before he leaves us.

01:42:47.000 And we're going to come back and talk about Admiral Fallon and some of the other brass leaving.

01:42:52.000 We'll get his take on what that means.

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01:46:17.000 All these years talking to him over the telephone or on the radio.

01:46:23.000 We're going to have him on with us for 20 minutes.

01:46:26.000 That's the 3.20 Central Standard Time.

01:46:29.000 In fact, I'm going to give you my local studio number for anybody that wants to call in and talk to Mark in that commercial-free segment.

01:46:37.000 Then on the web, the rebroadcast will begin from the first three and a half hours of the show with Lindsey Williams.

01:46:45.000 We have back on today Dr. Stan Monteith, Webster Griffin Tarpley, and of course Steve Watson as well.

01:46:51.000 And that's the issues I wanted to bring up to you, Mark.

01:46:53.000 He opens up the Sunday paper.

01:46:56.000 In England, Steve Watson lives in London.

01:46:58.000 British kids encouraged to become climate cops.

01:47:00.000 You go to the website, they wear uniforms.

01:47:03.000 It says, report on your parents, build, it's climatecops.com.

01:47:07.000 They build a dossier on your parents, you spy on them and report back to the government.

01:47:11.000 This is what Barack Obama is calling for.

01:47:13.000 Everything we've said, but they're really announcing it right now.

01:47:16.000 Your take.

01:47:17.000 Well, it's interesting, that's exactly where I'd go is, isn't it fascinating?

01:47:21.000 Most people say, well this is a unique idea by this dynamic individual who just pulled this out of his hind end.

01:47:26.000 It was a plastic bag, okay?

01:47:28.000 It was very messy, very stinky, but he took the plastic bag off and look what he discovered!

01:47:32.000 When in reality what we see is, and they don't expect this to happen, is for everybody to be able to demonstrate a coordinated effort by a series of individuals who supposedly are disassociated.

01:47:43.000 Remember, they'll say, I don't know who that guy is.

01:47:45.000 Well, wait a minute, okay, the exact same thing that you just proposed here in the United States, this shyster over in England just dropped in everybody's lap.

01:47:53.000 And in Australia, they're telling him a new law, four minute showers.

01:47:56.000 I mean, it's just all about, we control the resources.

01:47:59.000 Except, you know, and there again, what's fascinating about that is, and again, purely control.

01:48:04.000 It's just the idea of control.

01:48:05.000 When you look at the changing technologies, When you have all the conservation and recycling systems in place, why would you have to take a four-minute shower?

01:48:14.000 The system, for instance, understanding organic... Well, they're not doing any of the real good environmental stuff.

01:48:17.000 Oh, no, no.

01:48:18.000 It's purely designed to get you into the nutcase scenario of being a plebe, you know, being a slave, being a peon. 0.91

01:48:23.000 Otherwise, think about it, with closed system technologies, I got into this years ago, back in the seventies... Well, I told you this was going to be a rationing car.

01:48:29.000 Everything you buy is on that.

01:48:31.000 It also surveils you.

01:48:32.000 Well, that goes right back to the Soviets. 0.68

01:48:34.000 Remember, people used to stand in line for toilet paper every day.

01:48:37.000 People used to stand in line for toothbrushes every day.

01:48:40.000 Making you dependent on the state.

01:48:41.000 And again, for everybody to say, well, if they just gave it a chance.

01:48:44.000 It had a chance.

01:48:45.000 It killed 100 million people.

01:48:46.000 It lasted 70 plus years.

01:48:47.000 It fogged off into history only so it could be changed.

01:48:50.000 The amoeba could shift over and drop itself right in the middle of the United States and the unfortunates in England. 0.71

01:48:57.000 And the fun and the comical part about it is, I'm sorry guys, but I would guess that George Orwell was right!

01:49:04.000 1984 guys, come on!

01:49:05.000 Well, this is directly out of that.

01:49:07.000 It's a playbook when you read the website.

01:49:09.000 Except that an interesting thing, years ago, my father had to take some additional college classes.

01:49:13.000 He worked as an apparatus supervisor in designing equipment for the fire department that he worked for.

01:49:20.000 And one of the things back in the 70s that came up with these honest college professors who were talking about engineering and also economics, they said, chances are, and this was said, I had a class in Eastern Michigan.

01:49:32.000 He took a class in Eastern Michigan with a totally different professor.

01:49:34.000 And both of them said the same thing. 0.97

01:49:36.000 They said, chances are, within a very short period of time here, we're going to have a war waged against us, and we're going to have to fight, and we're going to have to kill the ecologists, the eco-freaks. 0.95

01:49:47.000 Because what's going to happen is, they're going to deem, and he said, watch how this works. 0.92

01:49:51.000 They understand it's about getting control of resources. 0.81

01:49:54.000 And killing people.

01:49:55.000 The bottom line is, what's the agenda you keep hearing? 1.00

01:49:57.000 We've got to kill off 80%. 1.00

01:49:58.000 Well, you know what I say, as I've said before, them first. 1.00

01:50:01.000 You go jump off the cliff like the lemming and let me watch. 1.00

01:50:03.000 Oh, that doesn't look good, Alex.

01:50:05.000 We'll stay here and let the next lemming... Oh, hey, those ecologists don't bounce very well. 1.00

01:50:05.000 I don't think we'll do that. 1.00

01:50:11.000 But again, it's about co-opting real environmental and conservation.

01:50:14.000 That's right.

01:50:14.000 In other words, we have good projects and policies we can implement.

01:50:17.000 They're just not being implemented.

01:50:19.000 Or if they are, the idea is to still keep you on a narrow track that puts you in a time lock 20 years old.

01:50:23.000 Okay, we're going to be right back in Overdrive, one place to listen, on the streams at InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.tv.

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01:50:48.000 All right, thank you, John.

01:50:49.000 Along with hundreds of...

01:50:50.000 Anytime, Jones.

01:50:51.000 Take care, my friend.

01:50:51.000 We'll see you again tomorrow.

01:50:53.000 We appreciate you.

01:50:54.000 Anytime.

01:50:54.000 We'll see you.

01:50:55.000 Okay, folks.

01:50:55.000 Rising is a breakthrough in the morning of the film.

01:50:58.000 Let me give you...

01:50:59.000 Let me give you the toll-free number to call in.

01:51:02.000 We'll take some calls for 20 minutes, and that's it because Mark's got to go and I've got things piled to the rafters.

01:51:08.000 The toll-free number to join us is 888-201-2244, 888-201-2244, or 512-646-5400, 512-646-5400, or 888-201-2244.

01:51:23.000 And I guess we've got to go ahead and activate the phone system to be able to do that.

01:51:27.000 So call in about 60 seconds.

01:51:29.000 Mark, continue with whatever you think is important while we have you here in studio.

01:51:33.000 Well, again, you hit on the right direction.

01:51:35.000 You're seeing this in publications just like this brief from England, that it's a totally different age.

01:51:43.000 In the past, they could have waited.

01:51:44.000 We wouldn't have known for two or three months, maybe a year.

01:51:47.000 Before we found out that, hey, somewhere in an English paper, the London Times or whatever, somebody finally looked on page C14 and lo and behold, here's the exact same thing that was being talked about on the exact same day somewhere in the United States.

01:52:00.000 The advantage that we have right now is that the information base and the data systems involved are just as much in our command as it is with the enemy.

01:52:08.000 In fact, more so because their assumption, and for whatever reason, remember, we got the thinkers, they got the stinkers, We're in a situation where we're able to cross-collate and reference.

01:52:17.000 The other side seems to assume, and because of the people they chose, they're in a very narrow band.

01:52:22.000 These people are not the swiftest, you know, they're not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

01:52:25.000 Yeah, they're all specialized.

01:52:27.000 They're all specialized in departmentalization.

01:52:29.000 The very thing that they're trying to foist upon everybody else is actually becoming their demise.

01:52:34.000 And the people carrying this out at this level, they think it's good.

01:52:36.000 Well, again, that's a matter of what Google... I mean the low-level media.

01:52:40.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:52:41.000 When you create a police state, Just like big government, specific criminal minds will gravitate to those positions or control freaks.

01:52:52.000 And what happens is they may give them another... there's two elements.

01:52:55.000 One are the zealots who don't care about who they hurt, what's going to happen, because they're into the groove with that.

01:53:01.000 On the other side you have Those who literally just would like to hurt people or are into the power factor and they're the ones from the other direction that know they can manipulate the first group and utilize them completely.

01:53:13.000 So they're the minority in both cases.

01:53:15.000 This is the comical part about this.

01:53:17.000 They are not the majority.

01:53:19.000 They could be neutralized very quickly.

01:53:21.000 If moose season were to open up tomorrow, there aren't enough moose to go around.

01:53:26.000 That's why Canada has a moose restricted system, by the way, for hunting.

01:53:30.000 So, that's what we're seeing here.

01:53:32.000 Everybody goes, well, they've got spiffy uniforms!

01:53:34.000 They've got really cool boots!

01:53:35.000 Oh, and it's black!

01:53:36.000 Oh my goodness, yeah, it'll look good on my wall.

01:53:38.000 Right next to the stuff my dad brought back from World War II.

01:53:40.000 Japanese uniforms, Japanese swords.

01:53:42.000 You know, it's really cool.

01:53:43.000 Black uniform, MP5, HK91.

01:53:44.000 Hey, they're gonna look great.

01:53:46.000 They're mine now, by the way.

01:53:47.000 Well, Mark, I want to say, I mean, you and I are both trying to have a peaceful solution to this and not have World War III.

01:53:52.000 The point is, is that the public has been trained And I've gotten a chance to meet people in business, high-level Hollywood people.

01:53:59.000 They're just regular folks, too.

01:54:00.000 A lot of them are awake, too.

01:54:03.000 People think that I walk on water, or you walk on water, or we're somehow magical, too.

01:54:07.000 Well, the same goes for people in government.

01:54:09.000 They think that these elitists are perfect or invincible or magic or different.

01:54:13.000 No, they're human beings, too.

01:54:14.000 They're just like everybody else.

01:54:16.000 I mean, I kind of somewhat thought this myself, that people who were in Hollywood floated on clouds, or that elites were smarter than I was.

01:54:23.000 Only now, as I, you know, got more prominent and got involved and learned more, I realized, no, that a lot of the people aren't even as smart as I am, and I don't think I'm that smart.

01:54:30.000 So you're absolutely right.

01:54:31.000 People need to get past this inferiority complex.

01:54:34.000 That's right.

01:54:34.000 It's not futile to resist.

01:54:35.000 It is not futile.

01:54:36.000 You will not be absorbed.

01:54:37.000 Just the reverse.

01:54:37.000 The biggest problem they've got is... Our movement, so many people have it in their minds that we're beautiful losers and that we can't win.

01:54:44.000 And they freak out when we start winning thinking it's some type of sellout.

01:54:47.000 We're prominent.

01:54:47.000 No, no.

01:54:48.000 We're going to wake the people up.

01:54:50.000 We're going to take the culture over. 0.99

01:54:51.000 That's right.

01:54:52.000 And one of the things to remember is the other side is not going to.

01:54:55.000 This is what... Well, let's put it this way.

01:54:57.000 We talked about this before.

01:54:58.000 Have you ever heard your enemy apologize for anything that they say?

01:55:01.000 Yet we're supposed to bend over backwards and apologize for every aspect of our life.

01:55:01.000 No.

01:55:05.000 We're supposed to compromise and give in.

01:55:07.000 You know what?

01:55:08.000 Like I said, them first. 0.53

01:55:10.000 Everybody has to have that them first.

01:55:11.000 You know what?

01:55:12.000 I've got a number ten and a half size military boot here. 1.00

01:55:15.000 I'm going to stick it between the slats of whoever it is that's stupid enough to try and push us around. 0.99

01:55:19.000 I'm going to run his hind end back on down the road, give him a backpack full of rocks, and let him swim halfway back to the spiders. 0.99

01:55:24.000 And that's not that I don't need a peaceful solution, but my problem is this.

01:55:28.000 Do you talk to a backed-up toilet?

01:55:30.000 Do you negotiate with a backed-up toilet?

01:55:32.000 Have you ever done that?

01:55:33.000 Is anybody out there listening ever done that? 1.00

01:55:34.000 Do you know how stupid that sounds? 1.00

01:55:36.000 At a given point, you're going to have to go in and get dirty. 1.00

01:55:39.000 In order to make that toilet work again, you're going to have to go in.

01:55:42.000 Somebody is going to have to go in and clean things up so that the toilet works again.

01:55:47.000 Now, you can either turn your nose to it and start using a five-gallon bucket out behind the house and figure, well, we'll just shut the door on that bathroom. 0.97

01:55:54.000 Or you can enjoy indoor plumbing and civilization by cleaning up the mess.

01:56:02.000 And that means you don't negotiate with a backed up toilet.

01:56:05.000 That means that basically you get the plunger and you stomp its hind end.

01:56:09.000 No, no, I agree with you.

01:56:10.000 My whole point is a lot of people in the mid-90s and late 90s wanted to go to war.

01:56:14.000 It is still a solution.

01:56:16.000 It is.

01:56:16.000 We have a conflict, but my point is we have exposed them, we have politically damaged them, and I thank God it hasn't turned into a shooting war.

01:56:24.000 Well, in a way, to a degree, the problem with that is we have been successful and we must acknowledge our successes, but we probably would have been better off in a war in 1995.

01:56:32.000 Because with each step we're going to have a deeper conflict.

01:56:35.000 I've argued this for years.

01:56:37.000 If you wait, both sides, in fact our side, we're not going anywhere.

01:56:40.000 We're right here where we've been.

01:56:41.000 We live here.

01:56:42.000 But your enemy has brought more and more resource to bear, so it will cost you more to win.

01:56:48.000 But our numbers have swung.

01:56:51.000 I think we have more resources now than they did.

01:56:53.000 Exactly, but that's where we get down to the whole argument for years of what's called a battlefield on gimbals.

01:56:58.000 In other words, both sides are moving towards each other.

01:57:03.000 The battlefield changes depending upon the amount of weight that moves the pivoting gimballed wall, but at a given point, somebody is going to make contact and come head-to-head.

01:57:12.000 It's not an if, it is just a when.

01:57:13.000 Well, it took more than 15 years for it to start in our Revolutionary War.

01:57:18.000 That's right.

01:57:19.000 And again, here, if you look at what we're seeing right now, let me point this out.

01:57:23.000 Well, of course, in England, my personal attitude with them is that unless they turn around and basically ban it, whoever's there right now pushing this program, how are you going to get rid of a bunch of sycophants that are raised as nutcases from youth?

01:57:34.000 A bunch of little spies on power trips.

01:57:35.000 In fact, what this is, is these are the interior police.

01:57:39.000 What I've argued for years, and I will do it again... In KVD. 0.88

01:57:42.000 In Russia, you don't see Hollywood doing any movies about communist Russia.

01:57:42.000 Yes.

01:57:46.000 You can talk about Germany until you're blue in the face, Before World War II, during World War II, and after World War II, Joseph Stalin killed approximately 100 million people between Georgia, the Ukraine, the Stans, and God knows how many other places.

01:57:58.000 We can go right on down the shopping list.

01:58:00.000 Hollywood won't make movies about that, because Hollywood liked that.

01:58:07.000 And because Hollywood was part of that.

01:58:11.000 No illusion.

01:58:12.000 You can talk about Germany.

01:58:13.000 Germany in 1945, while Hitler was dust in Berlin. 0.73

01:58:17.000 Ten years later, Joseph Stalin was still butchering people with reckless abandon, and Holly Weird... And now it's come out, what we always told people, the CIA section chief, I'll never forget about it, seven, eight years ago, on History Channel, and it's now been declassified, and David Rockefeller's written about it in the New York Times and in his books. 0.59

01:58:34.000 They put Mao in, and he killed, their government says 60 million in official Chinese records, And we know it's more like 85.

01:58:41.000 Even the Cultural Revolution in the first year killed 15.5 million acknowledged through intelligence sources in the day.

01:58:47.000 And this was the starvation of China.

01:58:50.000 And I've had former White House historians and analysts on, like Richard C. Cook.

01:58:53.000 I have had Ray McGovern on, former CIA.

01:58:55.000 I've had all these analysts on.

01:58:57.000 They say the government is gearing up for a mass culling in the U.S.

01:59:01.000 They want to fully do that.

01:59:03.000 Now let me ask you something, guys.

01:59:04.000 What does that mean?

01:59:05.000 Because you see, when you give these numbers, I'll give you an example of how that works.

01:59:09.000 How many people live in Austin, Texas?

01:59:12.000 Metro, about a million.

01:59:13.000 In the city, about 800,000.

01:59:14.000 Okay.

01:59:15.000 So we're looking at 1.5 million to 1.8 million.

01:59:18.000 We'll use a number here.

01:59:19.000 No, no.

01:59:19.000 In total, it's only about a million.

01:59:21.000 I'm going to say, with the urban.

01:59:23.000 We're talking about within a reasonable walking distance, there's about 1.5 million people, plus or minus.

01:59:28.000 It's a little more, but we're going to use that number.

01:59:31.000 We just gave a number of 15 million people killed in one year.

01:59:35.000 In one year, that's 10 Austins.

01:59:37.000 Yeah, now here's a way for people to understand that.

01:59:39.000 I want you to go to the west side of this city, and I want you to imagine walking from one side of this city to the next, and everywhere you go where a person was standing, they are now laying dead.

01:59:51.000 Every man, every woman, every child, the cats, the dogs, they'd kill everything and anything if they felt it would empower them in some way.

02:00:01.000 Now you're not talking one time Austin, you're talking in Michigan for instance, walking from the upper peninsula to the bottom of the state with nothing but death before you.

02:00:12.000 Now I better, you better all ask this real quick of every American out there, is what do you want of this country?

02:00:19.000 And here's the thing, do you think you're going to ride this storm out and duck this?

02:00:24.000 The agenda that's being presented... By the way, a lot of you are serving it.

02:00:27.000 Mainline conservatives giggling and laughing.

02:00:29.000 I saw an ad on Drudge, a t-shirt saying, I love waterboarding, I'd rather be waterboarding.

02:00:35.000 If they can do that to somebody else, that's a set of precedent. 1.00

02:00:37.000 They want to do that to you, you little fools. 0.99

02:00:39.000 You own some property, you own some land, you've licked their boots well, you're going to be the first going in the ground. 0.99

02:00:44.000 Yes, in fact you're the first on the menu because you're the easiest one to grab.

02:00:47.000 That's one of the things that happened with the Cultural Revolution in China.

02:00:50.000 First on the menu.

02:00:51.000 It happened in Russia.

02:00:52.000 That's right, it happened.

02:00:53.000 What about in Cambodia?

02:00:54.000 Here's a situation where you have a lot of... Anybody who had glasses or had fillings was deemed to be middle class, you were killed.

02:01:00.000 That's right.

02:01:01.000 And Zbigniew Brzezinski engineered that and brags about it.

02:01:03.000 And in fact the very voice you hear here with Henry Kissinger, that is one of the demons who absolutely helped to engineer it because he empowered Zbigniew Brzezinski and many others.

02:01:12.000 That's his protégé.

02:01:13.000 And conduit.

02:01:14.000 He created the conduit of resources that allowed them to be able to do it.

02:01:18.000 Now, they're not working in a vacuum.

02:01:20.000 And here's the problem people.

02:01:21.000 We're not talking over there.

02:01:23.000 We're talking inside the United States on a scale that most people, that's what bends their mind, is the idea that they have to look at this realistically.

02:01:32.000 The numbers.

02:01:34.000 If we go by the litmus test of history, the scale of history, we have demonstrations over and over again of what socialism does.

02:01:42.000 And if you look at Chinese model versus Russian model versus Ukraine, other places, we're talking, they're probably planning on killing In the entire multi-phase program, what, 60, 70 million?

02:01:56.000 If they were to have their way.

02:01:57.000 But the difference is, unlike Russia, and unlike the... We have guns. 0.96

02:02:00.000 Yeah, we have, we are very well armed.

02:02:02.000 And if 1% of 100 million gun owners decides to fight, that's 1 million people.

02:02:05.000 I'd be happy if just, here's the problem, and they don't want anybody to think about this.

02:02:08.000 Everybody listening has one firearm.

02:02:11.000 Everybody listening walks out and takes their moose and just walks away from the war.

02:02:16.000 There are not enough moose to go around.

02:02:21.000 The black uniformed or blue beret moose are simply not in sufficient numbers.

02:02:28.000 You don't have to even fight the whole war.

02:02:30.000 If you went out and just plugged one and let it sit there and twitch...

02:02:34.000 And strip it for whatever's there, what would they do?

02:02:38.000 See, what Alexander Solzhenitsyn said, Oh, how we burned in the camps, knowing full well that we had had nothing to lose.

02:02:47.000 And if we had waited when the mass arrests began, with cudgels and sharp objects, the wretched machine for lack of operatives would have ground to a halt.

02:03:00.000 So here again, people, what have you got to lose?

02:03:03.000 Nothing.

02:03:03.000 What have you got to gain?

02:03:04.000 Absolutely everything.

02:03:05.000 You know what?

02:03:06.000 The only thing I'll say is this.

02:03:07.000 There's this war, and it is going to be a war, and it would be nice to say that it would be peaceful, but it's not going to be because you're dealing with an animal that is a vicious leg-biter.

02:03:15.000 You ever tried to argue with a dog that's a biter?

02:03:18.000 There isn't a whole lot of arguing you can do. 0.98

02:03:20.000 You either, A, shoot it, or have a really good 2x4 and smack it side the head and keep her down. 1.00

02:03:26.000 Of course, you can cage it, which would be really good. 0.99

02:03:28.000 It's first containment is a nice idea.

02:03:30.000 Usually the owner does that, by the way, if he's smart.

02:03:33.000 But in this case, you're the owner of these dogs.

02:03:36.000 They plan on just simply letting them run the town.

02:03:39.000 Well, that's already happening.

02:03:40.000 Every day, the cops just run up to a guy on a bicycle, no reason, and slam his head in the concrete and then charge him.

02:03:46.000 And it's on video, and they say, we don't care.

02:03:48.000 Or throwing a guy off a bridge and tasering him 19 times and laughing.

02:03:52.000 My whole issue is, you see a lot of police, a lot of people in your family.

02:03:56.000 Call them peace officers.

02:03:57.000 That's the difference.

02:03:58.000 Exactly, peace officers.

02:03:59.000 They are good.

02:04:01.000 They're on our side.

02:04:01.000 They're not doing all of this, so it's certainly not time for going out after moose.

02:04:05.000 It's a minority issue, first of all, but here's the problem.

02:04:08.000 There's going to be a given point when you're going to reach the limit, period.

02:04:12.000 There's just simply that's all there is to it.

02:04:13.000 And those men, I've had men walk right up to me and say, Hi Mark, you don't know who I am.

02:04:17.000 I'm deputy so and so.

02:04:18.000 I just want you to look at my face and remember who I am because if I'm in uniform when this starts, the first thing that's disappearing is the uniform and I'm going to be with my family and we're already armed and we're with you.

02:04:28.000 And the reason they say that is because their perception is that they would like everybody to understand they're not part of this, and they won't participate.

02:04:37.000 And I can say this, but I cannot mention names.

02:04:39.000 I have watched this happen in the last year.

02:04:42.000 They've already tried to orchestrate something else.

02:04:45.000 With you?

02:04:46.000 It already failed.

02:04:48.000 Yeah, you just spent seven years on video for doing nothing.

02:04:51.000 They ran you off the road.

02:04:52.000 Exactly.

02:04:53.000 Just like they run 15 feet over the side of the street and knock a guy off a bicycle and then charge him.

02:04:57.000 Right.

02:04:57.000 Exactly.

02:04:58.000 And the point is that they're pressing the envelope.

02:05:00.000 But here's the thing.

02:05:01.000 There are many people, and they will tell you the same thing, that they are expecting to fight because the rabid ones that are chosen for authority Are not the thinking ones.

02:05:11.000 You have to get outside this box that you're going to negotiate with a backed-up toilet.

02:05:15.000 The backed-up toilet, in fact, this one has wheels.

02:05:18.000 It plans on being rolled down through your neighborhood, okay?

02:05:22.000 And that's the problem.

02:05:23.000 Look at him as nothing more than a backed-up toilet.

02:05:25.000 Break out the plunger and get rid of the problem.

02:05:25.000 How do you fix it?

02:05:28.000 Now, we are going to, we do get to choose.

02:05:31.000 One of the mistakes made here is, I will ask again, I want somebody to go to the National Archives and I want them to show me the vote that took us into the American Revolution.

02:05:41.000 The American Revolution started on April 19, 1775.

02:05:43.000 I want you to show me the ballot box and I want you to show me the counting of the votes.

02:05:47.000 Where is it?

02:05:48.000 No, it started when they started shooting at each other. 0.96

02:05:51.000 It started when one man said, you know what, I've been out here seven times, Paul made his right, he told everybody to get up, we all got up, the British came out, the cowards ran.

02:05:59.000 They came out, and eventually, remember when the American Revolution started, the British had to sneak out of Boston.

02:06:06.000 The Patriot movement was watching everything that they were doing.

02:06:09.000 The counties knew that when they moved, they had to mobilize the militias.

02:06:13.000 And it was made up of all of the people.

02:06:14.000 And each time they went out, and they stopped.

02:06:16.000 And they went back.

02:06:17.000 And each time they went out, they stopped.

02:06:18.000 And this is part of history that they have to try and eliminate, because, wait a minute, they're the most powerful army on the planet.

02:06:23.000 What were they afraid of?

02:06:25.000 They were afraid of the people because there weren't enough moose. 1.00

02:06:29.000 Finally, on April 19th, somebody got stupid. 0.99

02:06:31.000 They figured, well, we just got to press the envelope. 0.97

02:06:33.000 One man, probably on our side, probably a 20-year veteran of the French and Indian Wars, said, I'm 62 years old and I ain't getting any younger and I'm not going to do this anymore.

02:06:42.000 Boom! 0.99

02:06:43.000 And he voted with a one-ounce chunk of lead.

02:06:46.000 The lead was cast as a, well, residing vote or resounding vote.

02:06:50.000 It was placed in the red coat ballot box.

02:06:54.000 And then the red coats cast a whole bunch of ballots, the patriots cast a whole bunch of ballots, and the militia withdrew from the election, so to speak, for a little bit of time and ran across the fields out of Lexington proper.

02:07:07.000 The British collected themselves went to look for another voting process at Concord and they found out that they were on the losing side and the number of votes cast were in favor of the Patriot effort and the largest military force on the planet backed by a navy.

02:07:20.000 And that's the problem with this lawless government and all of its crimes is it is pushing everyone into a Law of the Jungle scenario where the cartridge box is now the ballot box.

02:07:31.000 They're hoping for reaction.

02:07:33.000 Notice that I'm not shouting I'm responding.

02:07:38.000 I have a plan.

02:07:40.000 There are millions of soldiers and former soldiers out there that don't want to fight, but they have a plan too.

02:07:49.000 And we all understand how to wage war.

02:07:52.000 It is what we did.

02:07:53.000 I was a trainer.

02:07:54.000 I was an OPFOR training commander.

02:07:56.000 I have managed virtually tens of thousands of men.

02:08:00.000 That job hasn't changed and my experience hasn't changed.

02:08:03.000 And a lot of other men just like me and men with far more experience with two and three wars under their belt are on our side. 0.99

02:08:11.000 Simply asking the question, how could the American people be so stupid as to let this happen or put up with it? 0.97

02:08:16.000 At a given point, those men are going to cancel the war. 1.00

02:08:19.000 Let me just list some of the things.

02:08:20.000 We have illegal aliens who are felons. 0.91

02:08:22.000 The mainstream news admits that's the prize.

02:08:24.000 A felon who is a foreigner. 1.00

02:08:25.000 They're filling the military up with that.

02:08:27.000 Mercenaries, foreign troops.

02:08:29.000 I played Bill Moyers yesterday with Israeli troops in the U.S.

02:08:32.000 I mean, this is now on PBS.

02:08:35.000 So all of this is going on My only point is, I don't want to start a hot war when we are in the Info War destroying them right now.

02:08:45.000 We're going to have to be ready to do both.

02:08:47.000 We must be prepared as the militia to, if need be, defend any element of the Patriot movement.

02:08:52.000 So for you, Mark Horny, and we've got to take a few calls here because I've got to go.

02:08:54.000 What is the line in the sand for you?

02:09:00.000 I think that if there's a, and again this was planned on for, let's see, we knew as of November of 1994 that in March, from March 21st to March 23rd of 1995 they were planning mass arrests of patriots across the United States.

02:09:14.000 So you got on air and said they were planning to stage a terror attack?

02:09:16.000 We told everybody about it and said, this is before Oklahoma City.

02:09:19.000 Remember, that would have been the premise for the government doing the bombing and saying the Patriots did it.

02:09:23.000 Now the problem is that Oklahoma City happened in a vacuum.

02:09:26.000 Because we flat out said, here's how it's going to work.

02:09:28.000 If anybody is picked up, if you try to grab a whole bunch of people, you will die.

02:09:33.000 I looked right at one person and said, what do you think is going to happen?

02:09:35.000 I said, the only thing you need to bring is a whole hell of a lot of body bags because ain't nobody going to put up with it and you're going to end up with a whole lot of dead people.

02:09:42.000 So you're the ones that are going to be at fault for starting this thing, not us, because nobody's going to put up with this anymore.

02:09:46.000 And that did not happen in a vacuum.

02:09:48.000 That started in 1988 with the ATF and a series of abuses that went on for five years before Ruby Ridge, where they killed women, they killed men, they attacked people.

02:09:56.000 Ruby Ridge didn't happen.

02:09:57.000 Setting precedents, trial balloons.

02:09:59.000 Progressively moving forward so that by the time they're done, in the year 1993, everybody saw Waco on national television.

02:10:06.000 And Waco was a progressive, cascading, it was the culmination of five to six years of ongoing abuses.

02:10:13.000 Now their logic was, I'll keep pressing, I'll keep pressing, after all, you'll have to acquiesce, you'll have to acquiesce.

02:10:19.000 And they were looking to show them.

02:10:21.000 I think they were looking to start a fight.

02:10:22.000 No, they were looking to show you that they could kick rumpus and take names.

02:10:27.000 And the logic there was to also puff up the infantry that are doing the job because secret... Give them a few victories shooting up churches.

02:10:32.000 Secret police have to... I mean, they have no... They gotta have blood.

02:10:35.000 They have no spine.

02:10:36.000 Okay? 1.00

02:10:36.000 They're cowards. 1.00

02:10:37.000 Just like you see here. 0.99

02:10:39.000 Popping a guy on a bike with three guys with a car or two guys with a car is nothing to me. 0.98

02:10:43.000 That shows me that you're dealing with a pea brain and a thug. 0.95

02:10:46.000 Okay? 0.99

02:10:47.000 When you attack a church with grandmas, grandpas, women and children and all the working men away, that's what savages do. 1.00

02:10:52.000 They wait until the men were in the field and then they attack the fortress or they attack the town.

02:10:55.000 The Indians would always attack when the men were in the fields or working because they'd be away from the treasure. 1.00

02:11:01.000 That's exactly what the savages did at Waco the exact same way.

02:11:05.000 And everybody saw it on national television and it still failed because what it did is it demonstrated what we tried to explain to everybody behind the scenes long before I did American Peril.

02:11:15.000 Now the same thing is true now.

02:11:16.000 It's going to be the same scenario. 1.00

02:11:18.000 At some point they're going to be stupid. 1.00

02:11:19.000 Now if they're smart, they're going to back off and they're going to sit down and maybe do the right thing. 1.00

02:11:25.000 What's going to change that is all these people that are listening saying, I saw what you did and I know who you are.

02:11:30.000 You're not doing it in a vacuum.

02:11:31.000 You're not doing it in isolation.

02:11:33.000 Millions of people know.

02:11:34.000 Tens of millions of people know.

02:11:36.000 What do you have in your hand?

02:11:36.000 Here's the thing.

02:11:37.000 It's from England!

02:11:39.000 Not just Americans know.

02:11:41.000 All of the thinking world knows.

02:11:43.000 The enemy is in trouble because of that.

02:11:45.000 Because there's not, first not a lot of this... Now all of this puffing and blustering and black uniforms and festoon with medals is an attempt to intimidate like a beaten wife back into submission.

02:11:56.000 One of the things I have is a pair of scissors I carry in my combat equipment.

02:11:59.000 You know what it's for?

02:12:00.000 I'm looking to try and get at least one of every one of the three-letter alphabet suit patches off each uniform of the ones we've shot.

02:12:06.000 Because it looks really good on the wall next to the rifles and the hats you've taken.

02:12:09.000 Especially the ones with the bloodstains.

02:12:11.000 You know, war trophies are a fun thing.

02:12:12.000 Americans are notorious for that. 1.00

02:12:14.000 Okay? 0.51

02:12:15.000 That's the attitude everybody has to have.

02:12:17.000 Not this, I'm not, you know what?

02:12:20.000 Look at that.

02:12:21.000 See that one there?

02:12:21.000 You know what, Alex?

02:12:22.000 I think he's wearing a ten and a half size boot and mine are getting kind of tired.

02:12:26.000 I'll beat you to them.

02:12:28.000 Ah, Cornkey, you're something else.

02:12:30.000 That's the attitude everybody's got to have. 0.99

02:12:31.000 And then again, the other subtle thing, because they're cowards, they are not brave people.

02:12:34.000 To beat up on Alex by himself on a road in a dark alley, or anybody that we know, that's not an act of a man, one-on-one, that's the act of cowards who, of course, work in packs, when they have to deal with free men and women who stand the line, and in the light of day.

02:12:52.000 Well, I don't want people to know they have strength and power and the enemy is weak.

02:12:57.000 And we need to pray for peace, prepare for war, and we need to prepare to protect our families because there's no doubt this government is completely illegitimate and completely criminal.

02:13:05.000 At least be ready to feed yourself and take care of yourself.

02:13:06.000 And Mark, I have to say that you have a lot of courage to say the things you say.

02:13:09.000 I truly have weighed things and I try, my job is to wake up as many as I can, to energize as many people as I can, just as you have done and been successful at.

02:13:21.000 And to just let people know the nature of their enemy so they can make the decisions about what they're going to do.

02:13:25.000 And then I can point people at you.

02:13:27.000 Give folks your website.

02:13:27.000 I only have time to take two or three phone calls.

02:13:29.000 Okay, real quick here.

02:13:30.000 Go to www.LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com That's www.LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com.

02:13:42.000 And we're also on We The People Radio Network, by the way, WTPRN.com.

02:13:46.000 You'll also find us, if you want to go to YouTube, have some fun, guys.

02:13:49.000 Go to YouTube and punch in Liberty Tree Radio.

02:13:54.000 That's Liberty Tree Radio.

02:13:57.000 Go to YouTube, punch in Liberty Tree Radio.

02:13:59.000 You've got some great training videos.

02:14:00.000 All the videos, both of our music videos.

02:14:02.000 Take a look, this will give you a chance to see what troops are doing all around the country, a lot of the training.

02:14:06.000 And by the way, you will see our new dog, Bruce.

02:14:09.000 He was 220 pounds when we got him.

02:14:11.000 He's a black and white dog.

02:14:13.000 We had to weld two of them together, one white, one black, and we went schnook. 0.96

02:14:17.000 And now we have this.

02:14:18.000 Ah, no squeezing, only tickle.

02:14:19.000 Alright, listen, I gotta give him some calls here.

02:14:22.000 Eric in Philly, you are on the air, go ahead.

02:14:25.000 Hey, wonderful.

02:14:26.000 Alex, Mark Corky.

02:14:30.000 You were incarcerated for seven years, Mark, and I believe the main reason you were able to get through that is because you had the unbelievable support of your wife?

02:14:40.000 Yes, as a matter of fact.

02:14:42.000 Both Nancy and many friends that we had out there across the country.

02:14:45.000 And your sons.

02:14:46.000 Yes.

02:14:47.000 And all three of the sons of my daughter, too, by the way.

02:14:51.000 Yeah, because I was actually charged with aggravated assault because a cop said I hit him with my car.

02:14:57.000 And I had to do three months, and that was very hard.

02:15:00.000 But the thing that got me through it was my family.

02:15:02.000 Yeah, that's one of their favorite deals.

02:15:04.000 Go right ahead, go right ahead.

02:15:10.000 It was unbelievable.

02:15:11.000 I would actually like to send you the info, Mark.

02:15:13.000 Maybe you could help me out with that.

02:15:14.000 By the way, you can go to Type Mark Horky on YouTube.

02:15:17.000 It's one of the hundreds of videos, if you can find it quick, where you can see the squad car video.

02:15:21.000 Back before YouTube, we aired it on AXS TV, when they were setting you up, and it was the cops were chasing you, and they run you off the road and charge you.

02:15:27.000 Plus also the video.

02:15:28.000 I mean, it's incredible.

02:15:29.000 Also, we have the dispatch tapes that they didn't think we had, because several of the officers were recording their own dispatches.

02:15:34.000 I'll tell the story now, the rest away.

02:15:36.000 We had the police officers who did not, who knew this was wrong, did not want to be part of it.

02:15:41.000 What they did is they had recorded everything.

02:15:43.000 Well, the sheriff's deputy, the first one following him, he says, why are we following Mark Corky?

02:15:46.000 Well, we're looking for a bank robber.

02:15:47.000 What are we following Mark Corky for?

02:15:49.000 And immediately they said, go to cell phone.

02:15:52.000 And they were on what is called the command frequency, which is isolated from the dispatch frequency, so command can talk.

02:15:58.000 And then people ask, why didn't you stop the car?

02:16:00.000 You had your son with you.

02:16:01.000 Well, I had two of my sons with me.

02:16:02.000 I got them out of the car is what I did because it was obvious at a given point it became very obvious that they were going to try.

02:16:07.000 In fact, it was said later in the courtroom.

02:16:09.000 Did you notice that morning you were being followed and things?

02:16:11.000 You didn't know what they were planning with your sons.

02:16:13.000 Right, there was something else going on.

02:16:14.000 The whole thing in a nutshell is the incident itself was orchestrated from beginning to end.

02:16:18.000 One of the things that came out on the 911 tape is the call from the bank.

02:16:22.000 Uh, hello, 911.

02:16:24.000 Yes, we've just been robbed.

02:16:25.000 Uh, is he right there?

02:16:28.000 No, he isn't.

02:16:29.000 Well, where is he?

02:16:30.000 Well, he just walked out of the front door of the bank, across the street, and over to the Sheriff's Department.

02:16:36.000 And she goes, what?

02:16:37.000 Would you repeat that?

02:16:38.000 Well, we're right here, standing in the bank window, and he went right out the front door, and across the street, and over to the Sheriff's Department.

02:16:46.000 And it goes dead quiet on the other end.

02:16:49.000 Now, he then walked across the street, goes to the Dairy Queen, which is only from the distance of here to that store across the street from your office here, and meets with the duty sergeant for the Sheriff's Department.

02:17:00.000 And then suddenly everybody's after Mark Hornky.

02:17:01.000 And this is the actual bank robber who absconded with, went into the bank, and took the money.

02:17:06.000 And this guy, by the way, looks nothing like you.

02:17:08.000 Nothing like me.

02:17:09.000 Isn't he tall and gray-haired?

02:17:12.000 Lean and very thin.

02:17:14.000 Lean and very thin.

02:17:14.000 I mean, lean.

02:17:16.000 Very thin, very thin face.

02:17:17.000 In fact, they had him on camera.

02:17:19.000 They knew because they had the cameras.

02:17:21.000 The bank is all camera'd up.

02:17:22.000 They had the feeds right there, even as they were... And the sheriff's deputy's on table, and why are we following Mark Horn?

02:17:27.000 Exactly.

02:17:28.000 And the other thing about it... But then other cops show up and run you off the road.

02:17:31.000 Right.

02:17:31.000 Real quick here, if you'd like to send something to me, PBN...

02:17:35.000 P.O.

02:17:36.000 Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130.

02:17:39.000 That way, if you need to send any packets or anything, P.B.N.

02:17:42.000 P.O.

02:17:43.000 Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130.

02:17:45.000 Sound good?

02:17:46.000 Yeah, let's go.

02:17:48.000 Jay in Florida, quickly, go ahead.

02:17:50.000 Hey Alex, hey Mark, how you guys doing?

02:17:52.000 I'm doing great, because you're on the air.

02:17:54.000 Okay, my question is, I'm sure, I know that I'm a Ron Paul supporter, I know Alex is, and Mark, maybe you are too.

02:18:00.000 Of course.

02:18:02.000 Since Ron's now out, you know, we have one other alternative, which is the Green Party and Cynthia McKinney.

02:18:08.000 And she stands for truth and the 9-11 truth.

02:18:10.000 I was just wondering if you guys could take a brief moment to... I like Cynthia McKinney. 0.85

02:18:14.000 I like Cynthia McKinney, but she's anti-gun, so I'm not going to be voting for her.

02:18:17.000 I think she's a well-meaning lady, but she's mainline liberal. 1.00

02:18:20.000 We are going, we have been supporting the Constitution Party and their candidate.

02:18:25.000 And you've heard him, you've heard him here.

02:18:27.000 Okay, fantastic.

02:18:28.000 Let's move on.

02:18:28.000 Thanks, guys.

02:18:29.000 Thank you.

02:18:30.000 Let's talk to Mike in Ohio.

02:18:31.000 You're on the air.

02:18:31.000 Go ahead, Mike.

02:18:33.000 Hi, Alex.

02:18:34.000 Mark.

02:18:34.000 Hey.

02:18:35.000 Mark, I just want to let you know I've got all your old tapes that you put out, and I was saying that, you know, my father told me a long time ago, like back in the 70s, he asked me, you know, do you believe everything the government tells you?

02:18:54.000 And I just, you know, said, Oh, 75% bull.

02:18:57.000 And that's when he told me, he goes, you know, son, that you always going to have to fight for your freedom.

02:19:05.000 And then that's when he told me that one day you might have to.

02:19:11.000 So I think you're right that people should be getting ready because they've been at this a long time.

02:19:16.000 I mean, when they're openly recording the kids to be secret police, I mean, it's just... And they won't be just watching their parents.

02:19:22.000 See, here's the thing.

02:19:22.000 Just like they try to depict in that remake, there's a color version, there's black and white, and by the way, there's a BBC version of 1984.

02:19:28.000 If you get a chance, watch the BBC version.

02:19:32.000 Yeah, that's the best.

02:19:32.000 For the kids, the spot.

02:19:33.000 Yeah, and they're right there.

02:19:35.000 They're right there.

02:19:35.000 He's working on the sink.

02:19:36.000 They're right there.

02:19:37.000 Whatever they're doing, they're right around the corner.

02:19:39.000 They're listening from around the corner.

02:19:41.000 You don't need cameras everywhere if you have organic cameras walking everywhere.

02:19:48.000 Think about it.

02:19:48.000 And it's the state taking the children away, and it turns the order of the universe completely on its head.

02:19:53.000 Got to jump, Mike.

02:19:53.000 Thanks.

02:19:53.000 Jeff in Michigan, last transmission.

02:19:55.000 Go ahead, Jeff.

02:19:57.000 Hi, Alex and Mark.

02:19:58.000 I'm glad that I got through and I want to say thank you, Alex, for your efforts and your enlightenment.

02:20:04.000 We try to bring you the best people as possible on the show.

02:20:07.000 Good deal.

02:20:08.000 And to Mark, I'd like to say that a familiar name I hadn't heard in a while.

02:20:12.000 I worked for the city in which you did for 18 or 19 years and we followed the things that were happening to you and I consequently had become

02:20:26.000 A whistleblower for the place in which I worked and took on the government and accused them of fraud and corruption and other things publicly in front of council being on tape and I'm sorry to say they got me because I'm not as tough as you guys are but they rode me out and gave me a medical disability and are now voting to take it away and leave me high and dry so

02:20:55.000 I just want to applaud you guys who continue to fight despite the... Well, we need you!

02:21:00.000 We can't let them kill 70, 80 million of us, and I appreciate your call.

02:21:04.000 We need you, all of you, at least on the InfoWar, copies of films, telling people about the radio show, other radio shows.

02:21:09.000 This is how it all happens.

02:21:10.000 Mark Corky, we are out of time.

02:21:12.000 This was a real pleasure getting to meet you in person after all these years.

02:21:15.000 Thank you, Alex, appreciate it.

02:21:17.000 And just go ahead and take us out of here, my friends in there.

02:21:22.000 Just really appreciate you coming on the show and spending time with us.

02:21:28.000 And I wish we had more time.

02:21:29.000 I've got stuff stacked to the rafters.

02:21:31.000 I appreciate you spending time with us, Mark.

02:21:33.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

02:21:34.000 And by the way, remember your training and you will come back alive!

02:21:39.000 God, sometimes I think of it.

02:21:42.000 I'm so focused fighting these people, I don't even think about it much.

02:21:45.000 I'm trying everything I can to set bushfires in the minds of men.

02:21:48.000 Excellent.

02:21:49.000 We're going to continue to do so.

02:21:50.000 We'll help you in any way we can.

02:21:51.000 All it takes is an irate, focused minority to bring down tyranny, and we are going to do it.

02:21:56.000 Mark Hornke, again, great having you here.

02:21:59.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:21:59.000 Man, a lot is happening.

02:22:01.000 The quickening is upon us.

02:22:02.000 All right, this transmission ends now.

02:22:04.000 InfoWars.com.

02:22:06.000 Be sure and join us there daily.

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Alex Jones Show - July 29, 2008

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