Alex Jones Show - 20081001_Wed_Alex

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00:00:03.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:07.000 Well, I'm really honored to have him with us for the next 60 minutes.

00:00:17.000 He is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, star of Hollywood alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger and many others.

00:00:24.000 Two of my favorite movies, The Predator and, of course, The Running Man.

00:00:30.000 Hi Alex, great to be here.

00:00:31.000 is going to be with us again for the next hour.

00:00:33.000 I want to talk about the bailout, the economy, the police state, 9/11 Truth, a TV show pilot he's working on.

00:00:41.000 I want to talk about just a whole host of issues with him in the next hour.

00:00:47.000 Governor Ventura, it's great to have you here with us. - Hi, Alex, great to be here.

00:00:52.000 Looking forward to coming down to Texas at the end of October.

00:00:56.000 - Absolutely, and before this hour ends, I'll tell people specifically about that event.

00:00:59.000 Out of the gates here, I didn't do any pre-interview, what do you think is most important to start off the hour with, sir?

00:01:07.000 You know, I don't know really.

00:01:10.000 I guess the economy right now, of which I'm paying, I think all of us are paying attention to it, trying I guess to figure out The dilemma is does a bailout work or doesn't it work?

00:01:25.000 You know, you hear two sides to the story and it certainly puts you in a predicament of picking the lesser of two evils, which means you're still picking evil.

00:01:35.000 Well, let me throw in my two cents.

00:01:37.000 They are terrorizing the public with the President and others saying, do this or there'll be a depression.

00:01:43.000 Stuff like that from a Treasury Secretary and a President itself is firing a theater.

00:01:48.000 And then if you read the bailout plan, it gives them total immunity.

00:01:51.000 It allows them to basically be separate from the government with no oversight.

00:01:55.000 So really, I think the $700 billion itself is a distraction compared to the new powers it gives the Treasury.

00:02:01.000 Okay, well, I'll trust you on that one.

00:02:04.000 I've been involved in other things the last week or so.

00:02:07.000 If that's the case, then I fully do not support the bailout.

00:02:12.000 I think it's ridiculous because this bailout, if it indeed happens, should come with so many rules and regulations that it's as sound as anything you can imagine.

00:02:22.000 You can't be just taking money and handing people blank checks and telling them to fix it, because that leaves virtually no accountability.

00:02:30.000 It's kind of like how the war was run in Iraq.

00:02:34.000 We've certainly seen a lot of that.

00:02:36.000 We were lied about the war, we were lied to about so many other issues, and now the same crew.

00:02:41.000 Let me take the conflict of interest.

00:02:42.000 We have We have Henry Paulson, who still has a big stake in Goldman Sachs, directing tens of billions of dollars a week into his own company.

00:02:51.000 I mean, how can he be doing that?

00:02:54.000 Well, you know, I guess the best answer to that, Alex, is that we've forgotten that the Constitution today is a thing of the past.

00:03:02.000 It's a document that doesn't exist anymore, which says there will be a separation of powers into three separate divisions.

00:03:10.000 And as I look at the country today, I see that that isn't happening at all.

00:03:15.000 You know, that we aren't a separation of power anymore.

00:03:18.000 There seems to be no checks and balances whatsoever, which is what the forefathers tried to put in when they created the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, was that making it a system of checks and balances.

00:03:32.000 The problem is we've allowed people... I mean, I kind of laughed the other day when I heard Ralph Nader refer to George Bush as King George.

00:03:40.000 And a socialist.

00:03:42.000 I don't think Ralph is that far off with being able to say King George.

00:03:48.000 Well, I agree.

00:03:48.000 He's also pointed out that George Bush is more socialist than any president we've ever had.

00:03:53.000 He's just giving it all to the elite.

00:03:55.000 Right.

00:03:56.000 Oh yeah, completely.

00:03:57.000 You know, this is a bailout of wealthy, and their argument is that these are the people that provide the jobs so that it will have a trickledown effect to all of us, which I have to assume there will be some correctness to it, but again, how do you bail out the top and trust what they're going to do?

00:04:19.000 You know, clearly, I find it very interesting that the very people that wanted to deregulate everything are the ones now leading the socialist bailout.

00:04:30.000 Absolutely.

00:04:31.000 Governor Jesse Ventura will also talk about his book that's been on the New York Times bestseller list, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:04:39.000 He is our guest for the rest of the hour after this quick break.

00:04:41.000 Stay with us.

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00:04:52.000 You know, clearly, I find it very interesting that the very people that wanted to deregulate everything Absolutely.

00:05:04.000 Governor Jesse Ventura will also talk about his book that's been on the New York Times bestseller list, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:05:11.000 He is our guest for the rest of the hour after this quick break.

00:05:13.000 Stay with us.

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00:07:58.000 Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest for the rest of the hour.

00:08:06.000 There's so many issues to be discussed and to talk about.

00:08:10.000 But finishing up with the bailout, you know, the internationalists that run the banking system created these trillions in derivatives.

00:08:17.000 They tied it to our bank accounts, our 401Ks.

00:08:20.000 Now they're saying, come in and invest in this, or basically it's all going to implode.

00:08:26.000 And these are the same interests that have all been moving offshore.

00:08:30.000 And so, just in closing, any other thoughts on what's currently happening with the bailout that they are set to vote on in the Senate today, Governor?

00:08:39.000 Well, you know, again, we have to watch.

00:08:42.000 My thing to tell all the American people is be vigilant, man.

00:08:46.000 If you're not holding people's feet to the fire, you're going to get bad government.

00:08:50.000 And that's the problem in this country as a whole, is that we sit back, we live in our own little worlds, and we don't pay attention to what's going on with the nation.

00:09:00.000 And then by the time it catches us, we're basically caught with our pants down because we haven't paid attention at all.

00:09:06.000 You know, maybe the good thing that will come out of this whole bailout issue is that it will finally get the American people to rise up, take their heads out of the sand, and start paying attention, Alex.

00:09:19.000 Yeah, I don't want to go back to ancient history, but I sure wish you were running for Senate.

00:09:23.000 I don't blame you for not doing that, because you've got some other ways of getting the word out to the people staying in the fight, and we appreciate you not going back to Mexico to surf.

00:09:32.000 We know that's probably quite beguiling, but let's get into the fact that you are doing a pilot, and I know you're doing some other stuff, but I don't know how far you can go, Governor.

00:09:44.000 Well, I've got possibly two, three pilots in the hopper, but I always like to tell people that I don't discuss them in great detail until the first check clears the bank.

00:09:57.000 That's because these are TV shows, you know, and I'll be straight out front.

00:10:01.000 I do get paid when I do pilots like anyone else.

00:10:05.000 You're not a communist.

00:10:06.000 You know, you've got to earn a living.

00:10:10.000 But the pilot that we're doing now with the True TV Network, which is the formerly Cork TV, is going to deal with conspiracies.

00:10:20.000 Conspiracies are fascinating to me for going on 20 to 25 years or better now, you know, starting off with the murder of John F. Kennedy and watching it evolve into everything else and now into the 9-11 conspiracies.

00:10:33.000 And so.

00:10:35.000 So I think it's very intriguing stuff and even for people that don't believe or don't want to or whatever it may be, it's still very compelling and interesting and to me it's truly better than anything like Tom Clancy could write or anything like that because in many ways real life has more intrigue and mystery than what anyone could make up in their own minds and write it down as a fiction writer.

00:11:02.000 You know, Alex, I have my own imagination, so I don't really need to see somebody else's imagination or read about it.

00:11:09.000 But I do like, I love history, and it disturbs me greatly when history is not recorded correctly or if history is misled, because then generations from now, people will never get a clear picture over what went on And so, you know, delving into conspiracies, I think, is just great intrigue and great dramatic television.

00:11:33.000 And not only will it hopefully inform you, hopefully will entertain you at the same time.

00:11:40.000 Well, I know that the networks are very interested in this, because I've been approached many times with similar ideas by the networks, delving into the secret meetings, infiltrating them, basically exposing what's going on underneath the rocks of government and corporations.

00:11:59.000 And I can't think of a better person than the former underwater demolition and Navy SEAL individual, and a former governor out there running around covering all of this.

00:12:12.000 Wait, Alex, let's not cheat me either.

00:12:17.000 Now that Sarah Palin's out there, I'm also a former mayor.

00:12:20.000 Absolutely.

00:12:22.000 And former radio talk show host and movie star and professional wrestler.

00:12:27.000 Well, you know, that's going to be the intrigue of the show.

00:12:32.000 As I said in the press release, you know, I've been a mayor, I've been a governor.

00:12:37.000 Now I'm going to get a chance to be a detective and to be able to go seek out the truth and hopefully go question people and get some answers.

00:12:45.000 I guess, you know, if I could... What's gonna happen in this show somewhat, I guess, for lack of any other better way to put it, I'm going to become somewhat of a Michael Moore of television, I guess, for this pilot.

00:13:01.000 But going after harder issues.

00:13:05.000 I'm going to go ask questions, people.

00:13:08.000 And I think my credibility precedes me to where they can't take me lightly.

00:13:12.000 I'm going to go simply ask questions.

00:13:16.000 Alex, when I was going through underwater demolition training, when we got to second phase, which was land warfare and demolition, when I went through, I had an instructor back then during the demolition phase at San Clemente Island.

00:13:31.000 And this instructor was a chief warrant officer, and he impressed me very strongly, with no reservations whatsoever, that there is no such thing as a dumb question.

00:13:42.000 Especially when you work with demolition. 0.98

00:13:45.000 Because not only can you kill yourself, you can kill your teammates along with you. 0.97

00:13:50.000 And so, I've gone through life with that premise in mind, that there is no dumb question. 0.98

00:13:56.000 A question certainly isn't dumb to someone if they don't understand it.

00:14:01.000 It's not dumb to them.

00:14:06.000 Well, that's the way that I've gone through life, and that's what the essence of this TV show is going to be, simply that there is no dumb question, and every question deserves an honest answer to it.

00:14:18.000 So, I'm going to be out and about asking some, you know, solid questions that I certainly don't consider dumb, and I don't think most people in America would either, and we'll see what kind of answers we can Well that's what I was going to say, is that that's what quote conspiracy theory is, is the mainstream media and the dominant corporate culture.

00:14:39.000 Anytime you say, hey I think this bailout might not be a good idea.

00:14:43.000 They've been calling that a conspiracy theory.

00:14:45.000 Or, you know, I think that we need to question government more, or have more checks and balances, or there might be some corruption in government.

00:14:53.000 They call it a conspiracy theory.

00:14:54.000 So basically, Anybody questioning the official paradigm is called a conspiracy theorist.

00:15:02.000 And we've seen the same thing, you know, going back to Galileo when he said that the Earth was orbiting the Sun, not the Sun orbiting the Earth.

00:15:08.000 You know, they called him a heretic.

00:15:11.000 And is that what's so suspicious about 9-11?

00:15:14.000 Is that you just ask questions and they stonewall and act so suspicious, Governor? 1.00

00:15:20.000 Well, and to me, that's the question we're going to try to pursue.

00:15:25.000 Why, if what they've told us is true, then, you know, there's that old quote, the truth will set you free.

00:15:32.000 Well, why would you have any fear of telling the truth?

00:15:36.000 Alex, I'd love to tell this story, if I may.

00:15:38.000 When I was running for governor, at the time it was very much in the early part, where there were six or seven candidates and they were holding debates throughout the state of Minnesota.

00:15:47.000 We're much different than Texas, where in Texas you get one debate.

00:15:51.000 Up in Minnesota, generally, you might get 12 to 13 of them.

00:15:55.000 And when we were at this one particular debate early on, we were seated alphabetical, so naturally I'm over on the far side.

00:16:04.000 I'll never forget all the seven or eight other participants in the debate came in with stacks of papers and spin papers and all this stuff, and I sat down with nothing.

00:16:16.000 And I remember there was a black woman, a civilian sitting to my left, and she quietly handed over to me a legal patent pen.

00:16:24.000 And I looked at her and I handed it back and I said, no thanks.

00:16:28.000 And she said to me, well, don't you think you'll need that?

00:16:32.000 And I whispered back to her, I said, when you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory.

00:16:38.000 And she looked at me and smiled and nodded.

00:16:40.000 She fully understood what I just said to her.

00:16:43.000 So in these debates, I didn't need all that stuff because in essence, every question I was going to be asked, I would simply tell the truth.

00:16:52.000 And if you do that, you don't need a good memory.

00:16:55.000 And so, that's what we're taking forward here, and people who will stonewall 9-11 will lie.

00:17:03.000 If what you're saying is true, then simply tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

00:17:10.000 Well, Governor, I mean, take the new NIST report.

00:17:12.000 They have now retracted their previous five reasons Building 7 fell, that 47-story structure, for those that don't know, that was hit by nothing that day.

00:17:22.000 And they've retracted that it was bad building construction.

00:17:26.000 They have retracted that a fuel oil tank blew up and did it.

00:17:30.000 They have retracted that the North Tower fell and gouged out 25% of the south face of Building 7.

00:17:36.000 And now they're saying a new phenomenon.

00:17:38.000 This is like seeing a leprechaun in your backyard.

00:17:40.000 It's a new phenomenon.

00:17:41.000 Never before seen.

00:17:43.000 Thermal expansion did this with 1,200, 1,500 degrees.

00:17:48.000 Cool fires made it symmetrically fall.

00:17:51.000 So they're just counting on the public, not looking at the evidence.

00:17:54.000 And I'm here to tell everybody, and I want to get your take on this, the new NIST report has completely and totally backfired on them.

00:18:03.000 Well, the last report I saw, and correct me if I'm wrong, the last report I saw from them on Building 7 stated that they said that the fuel in the building, the diesel, was not responsible.

00:18:17.000 They said the fire that destroyed the building was basically furniture and papers burning.

00:18:24.000 Yes, and they say it's never happened before.

00:18:26.000 That was their final line on the report that I saw, and Alex, I looked at it and started laughing.

00:18:33.000 I thought, wait, how could they possibly?

00:18:35.000 They're telling me that papers and furniture could cause a steel-structured, girdered building to uniformly collapse in seven seconds?

00:18:46.000 Alex, if that's the case, then what is being done?

00:18:49.000 Because clearly, in that era of time, when that building was built, there were probably hundreds of others built throughout our country and the world.

00:18:59.000 Shouldn't there be steps taken to ensure public safety if merely a fire with furnishings and paper can cause the total collapse of a 49-story skyscraper?

00:19:13.000 What is being done about that?

00:19:17.000 Federal agencies then put out new guidelines last month telling them to build buildings differently and major engineering firms and groups are now suing the federal government saying this isn't true, this isn't reality, and they're saying if this is the case then a BIC lighter would be able to burn down a building and we don't need controlled demolition companies anymore.

00:19:41.000 Well, and that's the truth.

00:19:42.000 I said that from day one when I read this.

00:19:45.000 I said, well, the way they can prove this to me is the next time a building has to fall or come down, let's simply go light it on fire.

00:19:55.000 Let's not bother with any demo or any demolition professionals to come in.

00:20:00.000 Let's simply light the building on fire.

00:20:02.000 There's certainly, if furniture and paper can make a building completely collapse in seven minutes, we don't need any demolition.

00:20:11.000 Do we, Alex?

00:20:12.000 No, we don't.

00:20:12.000 Governor Ventura, I don't want you to go too far on the pilot.

00:20:15.000 You told me some of it behind the scenes, and boy, let me tell you, is it going to be powerful.

00:20:19.000 But the particular angle you're going to be going at, I think is very effective and hasn't been done yet, you know, even by a lot of alternative media, much less the mainstream.

00:20:32.000 Well, you know, that's one of the things we're looking forward to, and I'm not going to spring it right now, because, you know, this is the mechanism we're going to go after it as.

00:20:41.000 And I hope that it is, because one thing I've always been accused of, good or bad, is they've always told me when I was a mayor or governor that no matter what issue came up, that I always had a unique perspective on how I view an issue.

00:20:56.000 And so, we're going after a little different perspective of 9-11 here, and I think it will be very entertaining as well as back-finding, and I think people are going to find it very, very interesting if we see the light of day.

00:21:12.000 Alex, I've already warned every people, all the people that I'm working with at The True Network, I've warned them that I still give it only a 50-50 chance that this show will see the light of day.

00:21:25.000 Well, I don't want to insert myself into the mix, but yeah, the exact same TV show was pitched to them right as it was turning into true TV.

00:21:33.000 We even have the intro trailer to the pilot that was made.

00:21:39.000 I never really talked about it on air because I figured it wouldn't see the light of day.

00:21:43.000 But I think in the last year and a half, so much has changed, Mr. Ventura.

00:21:48.000 And frankly, you bring a lot more gravitas than Alex Jones does.

00:21:50.000 You know, movie star, governor, you know, all these other issues.

00:21:54.000 I think I mean, I had the executives tell me at three different networks, including the one you're working with, and I know you're working with several others too, it's the same deal, and I had them tell me, they go, look, we know this is what people want, we know this will get ratings, but then from up above, you know, up above programming, even above, you know, the vice presidents, were the big money people saying, we're not going to have that anti-New World Order stuff on here, we're not going to legitimize it, and that's why the mainstream media is being delegitimized.

00:22:24.000 Well, all I can say is my show coming up has nothing to do with the New World Order.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, you know, this is just a case of, you know, there's a lot of questions that still loom out there, and we're going to give both sides of the issue.

00:22:45.000 I want people to understand that, too.

00:22:48.000 We're not just coming at this show with the perspective in mind that, okay, this is what we're going to promote, this is the way we're going.

00:22:56.000 We are going to the people that, like at NIST, that do these reports, they will have the opportunity to defend what they say.

00:23:04.000 And ultimately, it will end up the viewer.

00:23:07.000 The viewer will see all things, and ultimately, the viewer will have to make up their own mind as to what they do or do not want to believe.

00:23:17.000 Well, Governor Ventura, my whole point is this, to make it clear.

00:23:20.000 I think this is an idea whose time has come, and I frankly can't think of a more perfect person than yourself, very imposing and intelligent, basically stomping around, going after bad guys and investigating things.

00:23:36.000 Let me ask this, Alex, so everyone, all your listeners will be clear.

00:23:40.000 Do you remember the great film, Philadelphia, with Denzel Washington and Tom Hanks?

00:23:46.000 Yes, the film with... Where Tom Hanks is the lawyer who contracts AIDS, and then goes to Denzel, who's kind of this slipshod lawyer who advertises on TV that we always see, and seeks him out to defend him in this major, major case.

00:24:03.000 Well, the part I took home from that more than anything is also the attitude I'm going to bring to this show, so that all your listeners will be clear on this.

00:24:13.000 There's a scene in there where Denzel Washington turns and says these words.

00:24:18.000 He says, explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.

00:24:22.000 Do you remember that from the film?

00:24:25.000 He makes that statement, explain this to me like I'm a six-year-old.

00:24:29.000 Well, that's the aspect I'm taking forward on this.

00:24:33.000 Explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old, so that we will all be able to hopefully clearly understand what these people are talking about, because I think for the most part, most of us feel that if it were explained to a six-year-old, we would be able to grasp it.

00:24:50.000 Well, I want to get more into 9-11.

00:24:51.000 Let's talk about, you told me that it was great meeting Karen Johnson out in Phoenix when you were there visiting, when you went to the 9-11 truth event and spoke there.

00:25:03.000 And I love the video of the media trying to attack you and you throw it right back at them and say, you explain it to me because the official story doesn't answer any of the real questions and even the 9-11 Commission says they weren't allowed to even do their job.

00:25:18.000 Well, I'll tell you, there's some dedicated people is the first thing I want to say.

00:25:22.000 truth out in Arizona?

00:25:24.000 Well, I'll tell you, there's some dedicated people is the first thing I want to say.

00:25:30.000 You know, Senator Karen Johnson, to me, to me shows tremendous courage because she's a current elected official who is making no bones about the fact that she feels that the 9/11 investigation was completely botched and that there certainly should be a second investigation done, even though at this point in time it would be exceptionally difficult because, as I stated earlier, there's no evidence.

00:25:55.000 It's all been destroyed.

00:25:57.000 So nobody can go there and get anything scientific you know, isn't made available to anybody.

00:26:04.000 But the people out there are super dedicated people, and they're coming from all walks of life, which is the thing that I'm really noticing, and that really makes me feel good.

00:26:16.000 Not only do you have a strong group of young people, whom you would expect, you know, I, I grew up in the 60s, so I know what it's like for young people to bolt from the status quo.

00:26:28.000 I grew up in the generation that we used to say, don't trust anyone over 30.

00:26:33.000 I remember that famous quote.

00:26:35.000 And, you know, so you've naturally got young people that are heavily involved.

00:26:40.000 But then there are also professional people out there who are involved, people who you wouldn't expect to be involved, who have taken time and studied it a little bit.

00:26:50.000 And I think that's really the thing that needs to happen in this country.

00:26:54.000 We've got to break away.

00:26:56.000 I had a guy the other day just look at me and smile, and he's at the golf club, and he said, I don't believe any of that conspiracy stuff.

00:27:04.000 And I looked at him and I said, well, what knowledge do you actually have?

00:27:08.000 What have you done to study it at all?

00:27:10.000 Are you simply going on what the television has told you?

00:27:14.000 And what the government has told you?

00:27:16.000 And you just blindly accept that today?

00:27:18.000 And this guy was a Vietnam veteran, Alex.

00:27:21.000 I would expect him to be a little bit more cynical.

00:27:24.000 You know, in light of the fact that he now revealed the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened.

00:27:30.000 And, you know, the fraudulent whole Vietnam War. 0.87

00:27:33.000 Well, the NSA...

00:27:34.000 How we wouldn't allow elections in Vietnam because they knew Ho Chi Minh would win them, you know, and things of that nature. 0.99

00:27:42.000 And so, you know, and it just irks me that the public is so...

00:27:49.000 They don't want to...

00:27:51.000 Maybe it's because they don't want to believe anything else, but that isn't the attitude to have, and that's not going to do us any good, because, you know, you can stick your hole in the head, but it doesn't mean things are going to go away and they're going to be right.

00:28:04.000 The only way that happens is by people being involved, paying attention, and doing a little detective work on their own, and understanding that you cannot trust the mainstream media today, and you cannot trust our government today.

00:28:20.000 Absolutely, and it's the denial that there could be corruption or there could be a problem that has allowed the corruption to take over.

00:28:26.000 History shows you're always going to have corrupt groups and criminal organizations and elites trying to take over and set up empires and abuse the average person's rights and liberty and property.

00:28:38.000 And so to deny Alex, let me throw this out for a minute.

00:28:42.000 that exists in history or in this country is the greatest folly, and we're about to reap the whirlwind on that front.

00:28:50.000 Governor, we're going to break in a moment, and we'll get back on it.

00:28:53.000 Alex, let me throw this out for a minute.

00:28:55.000 The other thing I find so mind-boggling in this whole affair of 9-11 is the fact that we will so quickly believe that 19 Islamic radicals with box cutters could do what happened that day, but we totally throw out that us on the Christian but we totally throw out that us on the Christian side could never do something like that. - Okay. 0.68

00:29:18.000 Oh, that's a great point.

00:29:18.000 In fact, let's keep talking about 9-11, then I want to get into your book, and I want to talk about what's coming up in Austin with yourself and William Nelson and I, and a lot more, and maybe take a few calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:29:30.000 We'll be right back in three minutes.

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00:29:35.000 We're on the march.

00:29:38.000 The empire's on the run.

00:29:40.000 Alex Jones and the GCO Radio Network.

00:29:42.000 All right, let me talk to Ventura.

00:29:43.000 Us on the Christian side could never do something like that.

00:29:48.000 Oh, that's a great point.

00:29:51.000 In fact, let's keep talking about 9-11, then I want to get into your book, and I want to talk about what's coming up in Austin with yourself and William Nelson and I, and a lot more, and maybe take a few calls at 1-800-259-9231.

00:30:02.000 at 1-800-2599-231.

00:30:05.000 We'll be right back in three minutes.

00:30:08.000 We're on the march.

00:30:10.000 The Empire's on the run.

00:30:13.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:30:19.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

00:30:26.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

00:30:28.000 But who is the enemy?

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00:32:56.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.

00:32:59.000 I went down, down.

00:33:01.000 We're going to get back into 9-11 in just a moment with Jesse Ventura.

00:33:04.000 And yes, I'm going to take a few calls for the Governor.

00:33:07.000 I'll come up in about 15 minutes.

00:33:08.000 1-800-259-9231.

00:33:08.000 Kind of a grab bag to see what type of questions you have for the good Governor.

00:33:16.000 We'll talk about his book, too, before he leaves us.

00:33:18.000 And he is coming to Austin.

00:33:20.000 I really look forward to that.

00:33:22.000 It doesn't get any cooler than getting to hang out with Jesse Ventura.

00:33:24.000 I'm really excited about it.

00:33:26.000 And Willie Nelson at the same time and a bunch of others that I'm not at liberty These are the stories you hear in Whispered Conversations.

00:33:32.000 It blows me away that this is actually happening.

00:33:34.000 But so Jesse doesn't think I'm kidding him.

00:33:36.000 I've got his email.

00:33:37.000 I guess I can send it to him.

00:33:38.000 Here is the trailer from the TV show they worked on similarly, but I think his is going to make it through.

00:33:44.000 I hope it does.

00:33:44.000 It's about a minute and a half long, called American Conspiracy.

00:33:47.000 Here it is.

00:33:48.000 You're either evil or you're good.

00:33:50.000 These are the stories you hear in whispered conversations.

00:33:54.000 We're both in skull and bones, the secret society.

00:33:57.000 It's so sacred we can't talk.

00:33:59.000 Oh God.

00:34:03.000 One would think it wouldn't take very long for that to happen, dealing with people like this.

00:34:07.000 These are the stories that offer different explanations.

00:34:11.000 These murders have killed every monster you can imagine, and I do this because I'm the lead in this country!

00:34:16.000 They are the stories that must be told.

00:34:22.000 Suspicion of our politicians is not new.

00:34:26.000 But the number of citizens who distrust the government today has reached an alarming new height.

00:34:32.000 In New York City, nearly two-thirds of the population believes there is more to 9-11 than has been told.

00:34:39.000 I believe the title was Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States.

00:34:44.000 But where can viewers turn?

00:34:47.000 American Conspiracy.

00:34:51.000 Our nation's preeminent conspiracy expert, radio host Alex Jones, takes us beyond the stock stories of the mainstream media.

00:34:59.000 Okay.

00:35:00.000 He asks the questions others won't consider.

00:35:03.000 Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of Carys?

00:35:08.000 Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk to you about.

00:35:11.000 He explores the places others only talk about.

00:35:15.000 You're beginning to sink deeper into the rabbit hole now.

00:35:17.000 He takes us through the doors others won't enter.

00:35:21.000 Okay, I'm beginning to imagine what we're going to discover.

00:35:33.000 In this first ever adrenaline-fueled docudrama, Alex Jones uncovers America's darkest secrets.

00:35:40.000 You need to answer real questions instead of lies.

00:35:43.000 It is the X-Files, unscripted, all the more frightening, because it is real.

00:35:49.000 Alright, it goes on from there, but Governor Ventura, what do you think of that?

00:35:56.000 You got me hooked, I'm ready to watch.

00:36:00.000 You know, my wife, last night I was telling her about this and she just got so excited.

00:36:04.000 Frankly, I think you're going to do 20 times better because you're going to be the producer.

00:36:09.000 And I know you don't want to give us too many hints, but if it gets picked up, what are some of the areas you're going to get into?

00:36:16.000 Obviously, JFK, because isn't that what originally woke you up more than 30 years ago?

00:36:21.000 Yeah, you know, there's certain aspects to the JFK murder that can still be looked at even today.

00:36:28.000 There's certain things that could be done which could shed a great deal of light as to what went on, you know, 40 some odd years ago.

00:36:37.000 You know, I have the tape of E. Howard Hunt saying he ran the operation.

00:36:42.000 Well, there's things of that nature, but there's other stuff, too, out there that I will get into.

00:36:49.000 But JFK, you know, it could lead us to many, many different things that, you know, people have questions about and that there are conspiracies of.

00:37:01.000 You know, there's a lot of interesting things that deal around Scientology and that religion.

00:37:07.000 Hey, how about you crash the Scientology church or crash Skull and Bones?

00:37:12.000 Oh, my God.

00:37:15.000 In order to crash Skull and Bones, I might need a whole SEAL platoon.

00:37:19.000 Hey, Jesse, listen, on air, I'm going to say it.

00:37:24.000 If it gets off the ground, I want to be a sidekick.

00:37:28.000 Alex, what?

00:37:29.000 Wait a minute.

00:37:30.000 I want to ask you something. - Skull and Bones, now that's like the secret society at Yale University?

00:37:36.000 university yeah it's a homo erotic uh... 0.99

00:37:40.000 germanic death cult where they well robert de niro got it right in his uh... 0.64

00:37:45.000 the big film of the good shepherd and they do satanic rituals i've actually snuck into one of their meetings that they had separately in california the skull and bones that's what they do absolutely well isn't isn't george bush part of that Yes, it's very Christian.

00:38:04.000 That's what I'm trying to figure out.

00:38:06.000 How can that be Christian? 1.00

00:38:08.000 Well, let me tell you, Bohemian Grove that I snuck into, I'm sure you've heard of that in Northern California, the mainly right-wing Christian leaders go there and they bus in male prostitutes. 0.98

00:38:16.000 I mean, I'm not... I know you're not attacking them either for their sexual preference, but why are they so hypocritical, Governor? 0.99

00:38:22.000 Well, I don't know nothing about that, but it's hypocritical if it's true. 0.95

00:38:26.000 I mean, Alex, sometimes you go to places that even I don't know exist.

00:38:31.000 Governor, do you have a computer in front of you?

00:38:33.000 I love doing the Google game.

00:38:34.000 Google male porn star services moguls, and you'll be looking at mainstream newspapers.

00:38:42.000 Really?

00:38:45.000 Oh, I don't know a thing about any of that.

00:38:49.000 Alex, you know what?

00:38:50.000 You better let me just stick to what I know about and focus on that and get me off track with all this other stuff.

00:38:56.000 Oh, I don't know a thing about any of that.

00:38:59.000 Alex, you know what?

00:39:04.000 You better let me just stick to what I know about and focus on that.

00:39:08.000 Get me off track with all this other stuff.

00:39:10.000 I won't know whether I'm coming or going.

00:39:12.000 I know.

00:39:13.000 Well listen, you know a lot about stuff I don't know about, and you're in a very powerful position.

00:39:18.000 And kind of like two years ago when I gave you Terror Storm, I would love to just be an unofficial advisor and just, I mean, I could send you so much stuff that's admitted, sir.

00:39:28.000 Well, like I said, we're going to do this first pilot, and then we go, let's get this one on the air, and once this one's on the air, hopefully we will be brought into series, and at that point we'll be looking for a lot more stuff to educate and entertain the people on.

00:39:45.000 Well, I publicly groveled to Lord Ventura.

00:39:47.000 Lord Ventura!

00:39:52.000 As I said, Alex, we've got to do it one step at a time.

00:39:54.000 No, I know, I know.

00:39:56.000 Right now, my focus is to do this pilot and make it as good, entertaining, to give people knowledge and to make people question some things and give them enough facts to the ability to raise some questions and ask them and not be afraid to do it.

00:40:13.000 We're supposed to be in a free country.

00:40:15.000 Let's always remember that.

00:40:17.000 We're supposed to have the First Amendment here. 0.97

00:40:20.000 where we can talk, and again, and I know this has been said many times, but people need to always remember, the First Amendment is to protect unpopular speech, not popular, because popular speech doesn't need protection.

00:40:34.000 Unpopular does.

00:40:36.000 You know what Mark Twain said?

00:40:37.000 Mark Twain said in the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot anymore.

00:40:46.000 And you really are a great patriot, one of the biggest names to go public for 9-11, and it is becoming more and more mainstream thanks to you and so many others.

00:40:55.000 What is it like to see the phenomenon of government-sponsored terror becoming more and more accepted, sir?

00:41:01.000 Well, you know, we've got to wait and see.

00:41:04.000 Let's see the chips fall and let's see the education take place.

00:41:11.000 Hopefully that's what this show will help to do.

00:41:13.000 As I said, I've got my fingers crossed that the courage will be there and that it will get on the air.

00:41:22.000 The True Network, I think, has seen, somebody told me, 90 million homes today or 100 million homes.

00:41:28.000 It's 91 million.

00:41:29.000 That starts the ball rolling.

00:41:32.000 It's one of the biggest cable system shows and networks out there, and I tell you, they're lucky to have you.

00:41:38.000 I'm just so excited about it.

00:41:39.000 I mean, Jesse Ventura, conspiracy investigations, it doesn't get any better than that.

00:41:45.000 Getting back into 9-11, there are so many facets to it, but some of the areas that they can't ignore is the White House lying and saying, we never heard of plans to fly planes into buildings.

00:41:55.000 What gets me the most, Alex, is when I watch Condoleezza Rice testify at state.

00:41:58.000 and had Operation Bojinka and other cases where things like this had developed.

00:42:03.000 We also have the war games that morning, just like on 7th.

00:42:06.000 What gets me the most, Alex, is when I watch Condoleezza Rice testify at the state, we had no idea they would take planes and use them as missiles into buildings.

00:42:18.000 And then you find out that, yes, they did.

00:42:21.000 They even had, as you said, practice things that that had happened within the government, and what would they do?

00:42:28.000 How can they sit back and look at us and say they were so naive that they didn't have any idea that this type of situation could happen?

00:42:39.000 It insults my intelligence, Alex.

00:42:41.000 I'll tell you what insults my intelligence.

00:42:43.000 I'm in Austin, Texas.

00:42:44.000 The main network's in Burnsville, Minnesota.

00:42:47.000 And we have problems about three times a year.

00:42:50.000 And it's when we have somebody big like Jesse Ventura.

00:42:52.000 In fact, the last time it happened was when he was on.

00:42:54.000 And you probably can't hear it, Governor, but somebody's cutting into the line.

00:42:57.000 John, I want to switch to the other ISDN right now.

00:43:01.000 Okay.

00:43:01.000 I don't know if you're hearing that crackling.

00:43:03.000 It's switched.

00:43:03.000 Okay, it's switched.

00:43:05.000 Yeah, Governor, a lot of weird stuff going on here on our end, but I'm sure it's just a coincidence that somebody cuts our digital lines only when you're on the show.

00:43:15.000 Well, maybe it's coming from my end, too, because, you know, I wrote about that in my book.

00:43:19.000 You know, the house that I lived in at the time I was Governor, it turned out that there's pretty big, strong evidence that my lines were capped there.

00:43:30.000 And after all, Alex, let's remember, our Democrats gave the President the ability to do that again.

00:43:35.000 president the ability to do that again.

00:43:36.000 Well, did you hear?

00:43:38.000 When I was in Denver for the DNC, I was going to meet with Cindy Sheehan, and she was doing a big event with Ralph Nader, and I was invited to that.

00:43:48.000 And I'm going to meet her, and when I meet with her, she goes, guess what I just caught?

00:43:52.000 She goes in her room.

00:43:53.000 She's already been checked in.

00:43:55.000 She goes in and eats.

00:43:56.000 She goes in, the door's cracked.

00:43:57.000 There's a guy in a suit over her phone putting a device in it.

00:44:01.000 He screws the top on and runs out of the room past her.

00:44:05.000 And then of course you talked about what happened at your house.

00:44:08.000 Tell folks about that again.

00:44:10.000 Well, you know, we have a system set up where, as the governor in your private home, they give you this red phone that, even if it's knocked off the hook, it will ring automatically the local police, who will come running, which is a good idea.

00:44:25.000 You know, you don't even have to speak into it.

00:44:27.000 If the phone is knocked off the hook, that sends a message right to the local police, and they're coming.

00:44:35.000 But when they install that, We always had weird clicking on my regular phones and it was so bad it became laughable where my in-laws would automatically state, well, I guess if you're out there, we're talking again.

00:44:48.000 You know, that type of thing.

00:44:50.000 And then when I ended being governor, we found a little transformer type thing out on my deck one day that a friend of mine said, who used to do that for the phone company when ordered to, said that that had something to do with, you know, a listening type device.

00:45:06.000 And then the guys who came out to then rewire my phones back up after the red phone was taken out and all this other stuff, they came up just baffled.

00:45:17.000 They said, we've never seen phone wiring like this in all the years we've worked on them.

00:45:22.000 So that's all I can go on, Alex, is that it was a very strange situation, to say the least, my four years in office.

00:45:30.000 Well, you know, you've told this story, but you never got into much detail here.

00:45:33.000 Can you briefly get back into one of your first days at work?

00:45:37.000 You go to the Capitol and there's 23 CIA people in your office, but they won't tell you who they are.

00:45:43.000 They won't tell... Well, no, they weren't in my office.

00:45:48.000 They were in the Capitol basement.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, and let's put it in the right thing.

00:45:53.000 They requested, quote, requested that I come down and interview with them.

00:45:59.000 You know, I don't want to say they ordered me to because there was no one that said I had to, but I, being former military and, you know, new to the job, I felt that I guess this is my obligation if the CIA wants to talk to me and I'm the governor of the state of Minnesota, I certainly should talk to them.

00:46:18.000 So, when it arrived, I went down into the bowels of the Capitol, into this closed room, and I sat in a chair, and they were in a big half-moon circle around me.

00:46:29.000 Let me also say, they were very professional.

00:46:33.000 They were very courteous.

00:46:35.000 They always addressed me as my title, Governor.

00:46:38.000 All the formalities were there.

00:46:41.000 I guess the scariest thing about it, Alex, was this.

00:46:45.000 As I looked around the room at these 23 people, I saw my neighbors.

00:46:51.000 And what I mean by that is, you would never guess in your wildest dreams that these were CIA operatives, which is their job.

00:47:00.000 So, obviously, they recruit and they do it very well, because some of the people I looked at would look like the old retired guy down the street that would sweep a step.

00:47:11.000 Others were younger people, others were professionals, others were blue-collar.

00:47:16.000 They came with an entire cross-section of what you'd call America.

00:47:22.000 Amazing, yeah.

00:47:25.000 And then, of course, I was a little belligerent, being who I am, and I said before I answer any of your questions, I have a few for you.

00:47:34.000 One of them was, I asked them why they were operational within the United States when When their orders are that they're not to be operational.

00:47:43.000 It's a federal law.

00:47:44.000 It's a felony.

00:47:46.000 Right.

00:47:47.000 Well, clearly that law isn't enforced because they're entrenched in Minnesota government.

00:47:54.000 As I talk about in my book.

00:47:55.000 And what do they say to you?

00:47:58.000 They wouldn't, really.

00:47:59.000 They avoided the question pretty much.

00:48:01.000 I said, your mission statement says you're not to be operational in the U.S.

00:48:06.000 What are you doing here?

00:48:08.000 And then I said, I want to go around the room and I'd like for you to tell me your name and what you do.

00:48:13.000 Well, I got about half and half on both.

00:48:16.000 Half would tell me their names.

00:48:18.000 I don't know if they were their real names or not.

00:48:20.000 No way of verifying that.

00:48:22.000 And half would say at all what they did.

00:48:25.000 If they did tell me what they did, how would you know that was the truth? - So how did it end? - It was much like when I went through Sears school, survival, escape, resistance, and evasion, when I was a frog man.

00:48:37.000 Well, when they interrogate you there, my actual rate was storekeeper, which is supply.

00:48:42.000 So I would tell them I'm a storekeeper, I work in supply.

00:48:45.000 I hand out blankets and requisition parts.

00:48:49.000 Although I was actually a Navy SEAL, never worked in supply at all.

00:48:53.000 But in those days you had to go up in rank with a regular Navy rank.

00:48:57.000 And so I was a storekeeper.

00:49:00.000 And maybe that's the way it is for these people, too.

00:49:03.000 That they can make up and not actually do what they tell them to do.

00:49:08.000 But didn't you say the meeting basically ended there because they wouldn't answer the questions?

00:49:12.000 Oh, no, no.

00:49:13.000 Not at all.

00:49:14.000 It didn't end there.

00:49:15.000 I took their questions, and amazingly, all their questions dealt around how I got elected.

00:49:21.000 They wanted to understand how you came out of left field.

00:49:25.000 Yep.

00:49:27.000 And that's their job.

00:49:28.000 It's like when I went home that day and I called my friend Dick Marcinko, you know, the creator of SEAL Team 6 and a 30-year Navy SEAL.

00:49:36.000 Dick dealt with the CIA a whole lot more than I ever did.

00:49:39.000 And I was only in active duty four years.

00:49:43.000 Dick was in there 30-something.

00:49:46.000 So I called Dick to ask him about it.

00:49:48.000 He started laughing.

00:49:49.000 He said, well, I don't know exactly, but I can throw a guess out.

00:49:52.000 And I said, well, your guess is going to be better than mine.

00:49:55.000 Fire it.

00:49:56.000 He said, they didn't see you coming.

00:49:58.000 And he said, their job is to report trends.

00:50:00.000 They want to find out are there There's going to be six more of these independent governors that might win?

00:50:06.000 What's going on in the country?

00:50:07.000 Because that's what their job is to do.

00:50:10.000 Gather intelligence, present it to the government, so that the government can then make a determination in an educated movement on how they want to react to it.

00:50:19.000 Well it's hard to believe, Governor, it's hard to believe that we are already right up to the final segment and I know you've got to go.

00:50:28.000 Maybe I can twist your arm for five more minutes in the next hour so we have time to take four or five calls on the other side.

00:50:33.000 Plus I want to get into the awesome events coming up and plug the book.

00:50:37.000 We'll be back in three minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura.

00:50:40.000 I'm Alex Jones.

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00:50:47.000 As a parent, your biggest fear... Well, it's hard to believe... Governor, it's hard to believe that, uh...

00:50:56.000 We are already right up to the final segment, and I know you've got to go.

00:51:00.000 Maybe I can push your arm for five more minutes in the next hour, so we have time to take four or five calls on the other side.

00:51:05.000 Plus, I want to get into the awesome events coming up and plug the book.

00:51:09.000 We'll be back in three minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura.

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00:53:47.000 Declaring independence.

00:54:02.000 Wearing Independence They've laid their bodies down in a bloody war.

00:54:07.000 For liberty for their descendants.

00:54:14.000 for their descent and Let me tell you, the best part about my job is that I get to see people really wake up.

00:54:23.000 To government-sponsored terror, to corruption, to so much, and to see people all over the planet waking up, and to know that we are on the real cutting edge.

00:54:31.000 And that I get to associate with people like Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura, and the former German Defense Minister Andres Van Bielow, and the Italian President.

00:54:38.000 Former Italian President's gone public saying it's an inside job.

00:54:41.000 People like Bill Christensen, CIA Section Chief in Berlin, who says it's an inside job.

00:54:47.000 Bob Baer, who says it's an inside job on this show.

00:54:51.000 The guy that made Syriana about CIA black op commander.

00:54:54.000 You know, we are going against the flow, but we're starting to turn people around and wake them up.

00:54:58.000 Governor Ventura, your book has been on and off the New York Times bestseller list.

00:55:03.000 If anybody hasn't gotten it, they need to get it in bookstores everywhere.

00:55:06.000 Don't start the revolution without me.

00:55:08.000 That said, I am looking forward to hanging out with you for a day and a half.

00:55:11.000 Here in Austin.

00:55:12.000 For those that don't know, I'll go ahead and announce the details.

00:55:14.000 The 26th of October.

00:55:17.000 The backyard.

00:55:18.000 The last time.

00:55:19.000 Because we're moving to an even bigger facility.

00:55:21.000 This one holds 18.

00:55:21.000 It's outdoors.

00:55:24.000 I mean, this one holds 8,000.

00:55:26.000 And we're going to be having it streaming live for free on the internet at InfoWars.com.

00:55:31.000 It's Willie Nelson's idea.

00:55:33.000 The thing is so popular that even when Willie said, come to the event, it was almost sold out then.

00:55:37.000 So it's sold out.

00:55:38.000 You might go to Scalpers to get in, but regardless, it'll be free on the web.

00:55:41.000 Austin City Limits is going to be there putting it out all over the country.

00:55:45.000 They're going to be taping it for that.

00:55:47.000 A bunch of other media is going to be there, and so you'll definitely want to watch that for some surprises.

00:55:52.000 Governor Ventura, do you like Austin, Texas?

00:55:54.000 You've been down here quite a few times, I think.

00:55:57.000 I enjoy Austin, Texas very much.

00:55:59.000 In fact, I would tell you this and I hope I don't offend the rest of the Texans, but if I were to ever move to Texas, Austin would probably be the prime place where I would look because I love the blues and I love I love Stevie Ray Vaughan, and the whole Austin area down there is a magnificent area.

00:56:21.000 It's fun to come and visit, and I'm looking forward to coming to the 26th.

00:56:24.000 Well, if you like Double Trouble and the fabulous Thunderbirds, Jimmy Vaughan is going to be playing at the event, and he is a listener of the show.

00:56:33.000 He's been a guest here.

00:56:34.000 He lives in Austin.

00:56:36.000 Have you ever met Jimmy Vaughan?

00:56:37.000 He's a fabulous guy.

00:56:38.000 Yeah, Jimmy was up at the Ron Paul thing here.

00:56:42.000 That's right, he told me about that, absolutely.

00:56:45.000 Jimmy and I talked at the Ron Paul convention, the counter-convention up here in the Twin Cities at the Target Center.

00:56:51.000 Well, it's a small world, and I'm just honored to be associated with people like you and Mr. Vaughn and others.

00:56:56.000 God, it's exciting to be on the side of good.

00:56:58.000 I feel sorry for those that are involved in corruption and bad, because I guess they don't have a conscience or they just don't care, because I love being part of the good guys.

00:57:06.000 What about you, Governor?

00:57:08.000 Well, I don't know necessarily.

00:57:10.000 You've got to remember something.

00:57:11.000 I was a villain for all those years in wrestling, so I like to cause trouble, too.

00:57:19.000 Well, I played a villain.

00:57:21.000 Everyone hated me, Alex. 0.99

00:57:23.000 They paid their hard-earned dollars to get my butt kicked. 1.00

00:57:26.000 Growing up in Dallas, watching you on TV, we liked you, and we were rooting for you to kick Hulk Hogan's butt. 0.98

00:57:32.000 Well, you know, when you put it that way, Alex, then you're not always on the side of right and justice, because I know you're no one has to... 0.87

00:57:44.000 Hogan was supposed to be the all-American boy, not me.

00:57:46.000 No, you know, people understand that, that that's, you know, in the world of pro-wrestling, you're... And much like politics, I think they parallel.

00:57:51.000 ever jesse but you know you're not really a villain so we know that was just having some fun people people understand that that's you know in the world of pro wrestling you're and much like politics i think they parallel i talked about this at harvard the fact that uh...

00:58:08.000 what you play in the wrestling ring may be nothing like what you're like in real life And I think many of the politicians are that way.

00:58:15.000 What they portray to you in public is nothing like they really are behind the scenes.

00:58:20.000 It's like WWF.

00:58:21.000 Okay, we'll be back in one minute with a final segment.

00:58:24.000 We'll take three of your calls.

00:58:25.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:58:30.000 But that's, you know, in the world of pro wrestling, and much like politics, I think they parallel.

00:58:37.000 I talked about this at Harvard.

00:58:38.000 The fact that what you play in the wrestling ring may be nothing like what you're like in real life.

00:58:45.000 And I think many of the politicians are that way.

00:58:47.000 What they portray to you in public is nothing like they really are behind the scenes.

00:58:52.000 It's like WWF.

00:58:54.000 Okay, we'll be back in one minute with a final segment.

00:58:56.000 We'll take three of your calls.

00:58:57.000 Wow! .

00:59:01.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:59:03.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

00:59:09.000 Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

00:59:16.000 The enemy struck America on September 11th.

00:59:18.000 But who is the enemy?

00:59:20.000 Bin Laden.

00:59:21.000 This is his M.O.

00:59:22.000 We have to look to the Middle East.

00:59:23.000 We have to look to Osama Bin Laden. 0.93

00:59:25.000 Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.

00:59:32.000 Some U.S.

00:59:33.000 investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.

00:59:39.000 I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.

00:59:42.000 Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.

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00:59:54.000 Alright, final segment with Jesse Ventura.

00:59:56.000 Let's go ahead and go to Bruce in Connecticut.

00:59:59.000 Bruce, go ahead, you're on the air with the Governor.

01:00:02.000 Radio Network.

01:00:03.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:07.000 All right, final segment with Jesse Ventura.

01:00:12.000 Let's go ahead and go to Bruce in Connecticut.

01:00:16.000 Bruce, go ahead.

01:00:17.000 You're on the air with the governor.

01:00:18.000 Hi.

01:00:19.000 I got a story about Building 7, why it collapsed.

01:00:21.000 After Towers 1 and 2 collapsed, it felt so depressed it just gave up.

01:00:27.000 Well, that's as good a conspiracy theory as the government story, Governor.

01:00:29.000 I agree, you know, I haven't looked at that yet, but if there's any witnesses that heard that being said from the building, I'd sure like to hear about it.

01:00:42.000 Well, even better than that, let me throw this one at you. 0.95

01:00:44.000 Yeah, another thing, JFK's assassination, it's very telling that they lock up evidence for 75 years after the event.

01:00:52.000 Absolutely.

01:00:53.000 Even better than that, let me throw this one at you. 0.99

01:00:57.000 Do you know that today, you still, today, cannot get Lee Harvey Oswald's tax return?

01:01:04.000 Hey, listen, I went to the embalmer's office.

01:01:09.000 He lives here in town.

01:01:10.000 He's still alive.

01:01:11.000 And he talked about the FBI guys came in, put his fingerprints on the gun, walked off, and then said on the news his fingerprints were on the gun.

01:01:18.000 And then I was going to go back and interview him again, and he got ran off the road that day and almost killed at ninety-something years old, so now he can't do the interview.

01:01:25.000 So this is not a joke, ladies and gentlemen.

01:01:27.000 Thank you, Bruce.

01:01:28.000 Robert in California.

01:01:30.000 You're on the air.

01:01:30.000 Go ahead, Robert.

01:01:32.000 Good day, gentlemen.

01:01:33.000 Welcome.

01:01:34.000 Hi, Robert.

01:01:35.000 Okay, as an old Navy person like Jesse, you know, my father served in the Navy, my brother served in the Navy, I served in the Navy, my uncle served in the Navy, my other uncle served in the Marines.

01:01:46.000 And his brother's Jackrabbit served in it.

01:01:48.000 What's your point?

01:01:49.000 Yeah, my point is that, well, for one thing, I'm glad that Jesse's getting a new project started off with a more broader view of just our conspiracy theories so we can actually go through these things.

01:02:02.000 One by one, and I hope it does take off on the ground.

01:02:06.000 The other thing is that I'm glad other people are waking up, but you know, I've been doing this since 1979, just telling people, you know, getting the looks, getting the stares, you know, since I was in the Navy.

01:02:18.000 So it's a hard road battle that we have to keep going, you know, and just not give up.

01:02:22.000 It is, Robert, I hear you.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, what about going the distance, Governor?

01:02:26.000 I mean, you know, the truth will out if the good men stand up, won't it?

01:02:31.000 Well, you'd like to believe that, Alex.

01:02:33.000 You know, we live our lives believing those things, but I guess I'm a realist, too.

01:02:38.000 I've already come to the realization that in my lifetime, the Minnesota Vikings will never win the Super Bowl.

01:02:45.000 No, and I say that in the fact that you're fighting a very, very difficult battle here when you're fighting people that want to censor things and won't allow the truth to come out, and when they have the power to where they can take things, put them away for long periods of time.

01:03:06.000 All of Rudy Giuliani's papers now are locked up for 25 years.

01:03:10.000 What is the story with that?

01:03:13.000 The point is, he was in public service.

01:03:19.000 Everything he did as a mayor should be public knowledge.

01:03:23.000 I released every document of my four years in government, are now in the Minnesota State Archives.

01:03:30.000 Anyone can go over there and read anything they want.

01:03:33.000 They said Governor Ventura's administration was so forthcoming, even the bad stuff is in there.

01:03:39.000 Well, that's my, and that's the sound of a good guy, that's my final question.

01:03:42.000 Are you thinking about running for president in 2012?

01:03:47.000 Not at this time.

01:03:48.000 I've got other things.

01:03:49.000 I've got other fish to fry.

01:03:51.000 I've got a pilot to get off the ground and possibly two more.

01:03:55.000 And there's a whole lot of other stuff I could do in the next year or two before I would even entertain anything in 2012.

01:04:03.000 And so next you're just going to be working on the pilot coming to Austin on the 26th in the backyard with Willie Nelson, myself, Jimmy Vaughn, and others.

01:04:10.000 And then hopefully I'll be doing two more pilots and then at some point I will go to Mexico, Alex.

01:04:18.000 I don't dream it, I do it.

01:04:25.000 That's my break.

01:04:26.000 See, I'm like a good baby seal.

01:04:28.000 I attack, I hit my target, and then I go drink beer and relax for a while.

01:04:36.000 Well, I used to.

01:04:39.000 In the days when I was in the Navy, I did.

01:04:41.000 Hey, Governor, you're the best.

01:04:42.000 Let me say bye to you off air, and everybody else will be right back.

01:04:45.000 Thank you, Governor, for spending time with us.

01:04:46.000 Lead from solder and copper pipes.

01:04:48.000 Listen, I dream every day I go into some deserted island and doing that.

01:04:55.000 I don't dream it.

01:04:55.000 I do it.

01:04:56.000 I do it.

01:04:57.000 That's my break.

01:04:58.000 See, I'm like a good baby seal.

01:05:00.000 I attack, I hit my target, and then I go drink beer and relax for a while.

01:05:05.000 You don't drink beer.

01:05:06.000 I've been around you.

01:05:07.000 You don't drink.

01:05:08.000 Well, I used to.

01:05:09.000 In the days when I was in the Navy, I did.

01:05:14.000 Hey, Governor, you're the best.

01:05:15.000 Let me say bye to you off air, and everybody else will be right back.

01:05:17.000 Thank you, Governor, for spending time with us.

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01:10:19.000 Take your calls in this hour, cover the latest financial developments, and then... We've got a big guest coming up in T-minus 50 minutes.

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01:10:42.000 I've got to dig around here in my stack.

01:10:48.000 I had all this stuff printed up on my next guest last night, and so much has piled up here.

01:10:54.000 I was digging around during the first of the Ventura interview looking for it, and now I can't find it.

01:11:00.000 I just can't do it all.

01:11:02.000 I'm trying to do stuff during the breaks, and it's just turned into a total insane asylum here at the office, but I'm exhausted after that interview.

01:11:17.000 I've got another one coming up, but a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that I know that I can't tell anybody about.

01:11:25.000 You've got the Depression coming on and all these neat things happening. 0.99

01:11:28.000 For those of us in the fight against the New World Order, we're gaining so much ground right now, but also the enemy is just expanding.

01:11:35.000 That's why we're gaining ground, because people are finally figuring out the reality of what we've been talking about for so long.

01:11:44.000 Yeah, I have him in bug inventory with a lot of my videos and materials and stuff.

01:11:47.000 He's already got a lot of them, but I need to just, I need to give him a crash course in all this stuff.

01:11:53.000 Because he's a great guy, but, um, like with the bailout and a few things, he wasn't, you know, he didn't trust him, he wasn't for it, but he wasn't up to speed on a lot of it.

01:12:02.000 And, uh, but what do you expect?

01:12:04.000 He's a busy guy.

01:12:05.000 What do you expect for the general public?

01:12:07.000 Let's, uh, take some phone calls, then I'm gonna regroup here and, uh, get into some of the other news.

01:12:14.000 That I have here in front of me.

01:12:17.000 Omar in Canada, sorry you didn't get on with Ventura, go ahead.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, how you doing Alex?

01:12:22.000 Yes, you've been talking about neo-feudalism and I'm really starting to see the parallels now with what you're saying.

01:12:31.000 You had a guest on there before talking about how these government agencies basically have put a letter of marque Honest, you know, and you think about like a cop or the Ministry of Transport, every time you go down the road, they're standing at the side looking for a handout.

01:12:46.000 And I don't see any difference.

01:12:48.000 You know, it really does look like we're going back into, you know, imperial British rule to me.

01:12:55.000 You know, things like these marine recruiting centers, they're nothing more than Oh, I meant to ask Ventura about the Army announcing they're going to use Northcom in regular operations against the American people.

01:13:15.000 There were so many questions that I had mentally thought about, but forgotten to get to with Ventura on air.

01:13:23.000 Drat, drat, double drat.

01:13:25.000 But I can have him in studio the Sunday he's here.

01:13:29.000 Because the Willie Nelson doesn't go on stage until like 10.30 at night.

01:13:33.000 We're giving our speeches at like between 9 and 10 and at the event and he's here all day.

01:13:38.000 He comes in the day before that and I'm going to be taking him around town and he's staying basically with us but I need to get him on air and ask him questions like that because he's got a military background.

01:13:51.000 A lot of people listen to Ventura that won't listen to me just because they know Ventura and don't know myself.

01:13:56.000 But, no, I'm glad you bring that point up.

01:13:59.000 Well, someone had asked him at one of his book signings when he was kicking around the idea of running for office, would he abolish the Federal Reserve? 0.99

01:14:04.000 And he said, that'll get you a bullet in the head.

01:14:07.000 I, you know, I understand because I'm not the one with the CIA target on my forehead. 0.86

01:14:12.000 Yeah, Ventura, it knows a lot more than he lets on him there was pretty disturbing that they just surrounded in his office and i mean that you're just a group we've got all they are i mean i had people tried idolize it well what what they do is they wouldn't do it with ventura but with others other governors mayors they bring them shatchels for a hundred dollar bills and i've interviewed the san antonio police chief i tried to buy off other officials i tried to buy off

01:14:36.000 There's a huge, covert, black-op government all around us, and that's evidenced by the former mayor of Minnesota, who kept quiet about it for many years and just now wrote about it. 0.84

01:14:46.000 Alex, I wanted to ask you, do you have any information on the history of the symbol of the dollar?

01:14:54.000 What, the all-seeing eye?

01:14:55.000 No, the dollar bill.

01:14:58.000 Well, I mean, it has an all-seeing eye on it.

01:14:59.000 Well, you know, it's a mess with the bars.

01:15:06.000 Someone had told me years ago, this was his take on it, and I thought it really hit the mark.

01:15:12.000 The F stands for slavery or serfdom, and the two bars are the single bars, the bars of imprisonment.

01:15:19.000 If you do a Google search, you'll find that the history of it is quite mysterious.

01:15:27.000 Hello?

01:15:28.000 Yes, you're on air.

01:15:29.000 They know the history of the pound and the lira, but the dollar bill symbol just suddenly appeared at the beginning of your republic.

01:15:38.000 And nobody really knows what the origins of it are, although they make some assertions it's associated with the Spanish, you know, gold bullion or something like that, which really doesn't make sense.

01:15:50.000 I just thought what you wondered.

01:15:51.000 Maybe some monetary historian can call in and let us know.

01:15:54.000 Thanks for the call, Omar.

01:15:56.000 Yes, very interesting.

01:15:58.000 Christian in California.

01:15:59.000 You're on the air.

01:16:00.000 Go ahead.

01:16:00.000 All right.

01:16:02.000 If you hear me, get a Bluetooth thing.

01:16:05.000 Loud and clear.

01:16:06.000 All right, great.

01:16:08.000 You're good on history.

01:16:09.000 I do want to know, like, what role did, like, he did have to do with, like, all the... Well, I shouldn't have said it loud and clear, because it's kind of hard to understand you now.

01:16:20.000 Uh, Christian.

01:16:21.000 Are you on a speakerphone, Christian?

01:16:23.000 No, I got Bluetooth on my ear.

01:16:25.000 Can you hear me now?

01:16:27.000 Yeah.

01:16:28.000 Go ahead and make your point, sir.

01:16:29.000 Uh, yeah.

01:16:32.000 Uh, I just wanted to ask you a quick question on history.

01:16:33.000 Like, what, you know, what, uh, what kind of, what kind of role, like, African, African society played on, like, the, uh, the Freemasons and stuff?

01:16:43.000 What societies?

01:16:45.000 Ancient Egypt?

01:16:47.000 Yes, ancient Egypt.

01:16:47.000 I'm going to let you go because that Bluetooth isn't working too well.

01:16:50.000 It's very hard to understand you.

01:16:52.000 I can get pieces of it.

01:16:54.000 Yes, there are several branches of history, but you had esoteric ancient mystery religions based in the Tigris Euphrates in Babylon, based in the Nile Delta in Egypt, and based in Greece.

01:17:13.000 And they basically all worshipped the planets, and they had similar names for the planets.

01:17:18.000 And, you know, they had a God of the Harvest, and a God of the Sun, and a God of the Winter, and a God of the Crocodile, and a, you know, God of this and God of that.

01:17:26.000 And they worshipped the reproductive cycle in the male and female reproductive organs.

01:17:32.000 A dome, or capital, is worshipping a heaping stomach of a woman with a chastating baby. 0.99

01:17:39.000 uh... the obelisk or towers are the male phallus or the male sexual organ member and uh... then that got passed on and then you had the dark ages that came after the fall of rome in four ten and before that the sacking and burning of alexandria and the library there and so one of the only groups that actually kept

01:18:08.000 All of that written down and documented and had private libraries kept by the Levitical Guild or the Levitical Priest of the family of the tribe of Levi, a subgroup of the Hebrews.

01:18:24.000 Or what is known as the Jews today, they kept all those ideas. 0.86

01:18:29.000 And the Torah is the Old Testament, but then you have the Talmud and several other books that came after that, that are kind of like the Orthodox Jews New Testaments, separate from the Gentile New Testament, and in those you just see codified The history of Babylon, Greece, Egypt, and those ideas, systems of governing, systems of mathematics, things that were very, very valuable, propaganda tricks that had been learned.

01:19:00.000 And so that's why our entire culture is, I'd say more than 80% of it, orbits around Judaism,

01:19:09.000 I mean, that's where Christianity comes from, that's where the Masonic Halls come from, that's where all these basic systems come from, because only the Jews had the most complete records of governing systems and systems of control than all the other esoteric religious stuff, that before they had their own monotheistic system, but then later in their history they adopted, at least in their oral traditions and written traditions,

01:19:40.000 The entirety of pre-Christian history.

01:19:48.000 And so, that's why the Masons' biggest secrets, you know, are what happened in Solomon's Temple, and the mathematic equations, and all those secrets, was because all of that was carried through.

01:19:58.000 And so, people wrongly say that all of your Masonic systems are Jewish mysticism.

01:20:08.000 Well, no, they're not.

01:20:09.000 If you want to talk about where it came from, it came from Egypt, Babylon, Tyre, and Greece.

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01:24:28.000 Riders on the storm.

01:24:32.000 Into this house we're born.

01:24:37.000 Into this world we're thrown.

01:24:41.000 Like a dog without a bone and after out of road.

01:24:46.000 Riders on the storm.

01:24:48.000 There's a killer on the road. 1.00

01:24:53.000 His brain is swerving like a toad. 1.00

01:24:58.000 Take a long holiday. 0.73

01:25:02.000 Let your children play.

01:25:04.000 Let your children play. 0.96

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01:25:14.000 Killer on the road. 1.00

01:25:17.000 Yeah.

01:25:17.000 Got a big yes coming up in G-35 minutes.

01:25:24.000 We'll be right back.

01:25:32.000 You only live once, make it count.

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01:25:44.000 Your gut knows you're only here once.

01:25:46.000 So girl, you gotta love your man.

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01:25:54.000 Gotta take him by the hand, make him understand.

01:26:00.000 Stop fighting with each other.

01:26:01.000 You know, I'm entertaining Paul, who just got back from vacation.

01:26:20.000 You deserved it, man.

01:26:21.000 Working at KLBJ and KI and here.

01:26:24.000 How long it been, Paul, since you had a vacation?

01:26:25.000 A whole year.

01:26:29.000 What'd you get, a week off?

01:26:31.000 Lavish week?

01:26:32.000 You know, people say Americans are lazy.

01:26:34.000 Some of us are, but most of us aren't.

01:26:36.000 In fact, statistically, we're one of the hardest working people.

01:26:38.000 In fact, the most hours anybody in the world.

01:26:40.000 You know that?

01:26:42.000 We gotta get a microphone rigged out there for you guys.

01:26:44.000 Just at the other studio.

01:26:45.000 We got three studios now.

01:26:46.000 We got the KLVJ studio, this studio, and the new one we're building.

01:26:50.000 I can do the show anywhere, I guess.

01:26:51.000 Just kind of wander around in circles.

01:26:54.000 Folks, I'm shot.

01:26:55.000 I was up here working late last night, and then, uh...

01:26:58.000 For some reason, I couldn't sleep last night.

01:27:01.000 God, I hope I never get insomnia like some people have.

01:27:03.000 I mean, I woke up, like, every 20 minutes, and so I'm kind of, uh... Hey, you're not tuning in for that, are you?

01:27:09.000 You're not tuning in to hear me whine.

01:27:12.000 You know why I'm tired?

01:27:13.000 It's so warm in here, with the theater lights on, for the live video stream.

01:27:17.000 We're not doing it right now.

01:27:18.000 We have it on for the hour.

01:27:19.000 Ventura was on with us for the hour plus.

01:27:21.000 He'll, uh... He'll be back on soon.

01:27:24.000 He's not running off to Mexico for half a year like he normally does.

01:27:28.000 Again, we can have him in studio coming up to Sunday the 26th, but that's a little too much for us to go to the show and then drag him over to do the speech.

01:27:36.000 What do you think, Paul?

01:27:39.000 Have him down there to those studios?

01:27:43.000 Somebody's on the message board on Prison Planet saying, does Jesse Ventura know that he looks like Frankenstein with that haircut?

01:27:51.000 He's funny, man.

01:27:52.000 Of course he knows it.

01:27:54.000 You know the Bride of Frankenstein comedy?

01:27:57.000 And the guy that has, like, long hair on the back, but... I mean, listen, he looks like Frankenstein in person.

01:28:02.000 I was talking to Jimmy Vaughn a week or so ago.

01:28:07.000 We were hanging out.

01:28:08.000 Family.

01:28:09.000 And I said, oh, did you get a chance to meet Ventura?

01:28:11.000 I'd forgotten when I asked him if he knew Jimmy.

01:28:14.000 That wasn't a trick question.

01:28:15.000 He said, oh yeah, we hung out at the Ron Paul deal.

01:28:18.000 And I said, what'd you think of him?

01:28:20.000 And he goes, Frankenstein?

01:28:23.000 Can you imagine?

01:28:24.000 He's, like, 6'7".

01:28:26.000 Stomping around with that Frankenstein haircut going after the New World Order on this new TV show.

01:28:33.000 It's going to be awesome!

01:28:36.000 And I'm probably, if the show goes, I was kind of begging the question on air, we've already talked, I might end up being the Igor sidekick.

01:28:43.000 Hey, I'd be happy, you know?

01:28:47.000 Like the Tasmanian Devil they release on people, have me in a cage, like helicopter lands to go after the New World Order.

01:28:56.000 Because that was the plan.

01:28:59.000 Yeah, what happened is, um, really nice guy, who, uh, runs a pretty good sized production company.

01:29:08.000 He even does production for BBC, but, uh, in New York.

01:29:11.000 He lives in Knoxville now.

01:29:12.000 I didn't know that.

01:29:13.000 He told me he listens to me on WBCR now.

01:29:14.000 He moved out there.

01:29:16.000 I called him up yesterday about this Ventura thing, and he said, yeah.

01:29:19.000 And they pitched it to True TV when it was in an embryonic phase about a year and a half ago.

01:29:23.000 Court TV was about to switch.

01:29:25.000 And they pitched.

01:29:26.000 Because I didn't come up with this.

01:29:28.000 I don't have time to run around trying to get a TV show.

01:29:29.000 This has happened several times, by the way.

01:29:34.000 And they went and they pitched it, and the ones that almost bit, but then up higher, got nixed, was True TV.

01:29:42.000 And then you read the press release from Ventura's people.

01:29:44.000 It's the same show.

01:29:47.000 But people are asking me, am I bitter?

01:29:48.000 Absolutely not.

01:29:49.000 I want this to happen.

01:29:52.000 That's the secret.

01:29:52.000 I don't care if the Easter Bunny gets the show.

01:29:55.000 I mean, that's how we, you know, get it done.

01:29:58.000 But, uh, I know a lot of other behind-the-scenes stuff.

01:30:01.000 It's just hilarious.

01:30:03.000 It's just all these people.

01:30:04.000 Ron Paul, Jimmy Vaughn, Jesse Ventura, TV shows.

01:30:09.000 We're on the march.

01:30:10.000 The Empire's on the run.

01:30:13.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:30:15.000 May I have everybody's attention, please?

01:30:21.000 I've come with a message of information.

01:30:23.000 9-11 was an inside joke. 0.50

01:30:26.000 Do you like being a puppet, sir?

01:30:27.000 Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?

01:30:29.000 How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?

01:30:32.000 Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C.A.R.?

01:30:38.000 The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.

01:30:45.000 Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.

01:30:50.000 An inside job.

01:30:52.000 How dare you?

01:30:55.000 If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.

01:31:01.000 All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.

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01:33:23.000 What's that?

01:33:23.000 What'd you say?

01:33:27.000 No matter how hard you try, you can't stop us now!

01:33:30.000 Hold on, I'm listening.

01:33:31.000 You guys let the landlord in.

01:33:39.000 He's showing this place so we have people walking through here.

01:33:42.000 They'll try to open the door to the studio.

01:33:45.000 I can invite them on in here.

01:33:48.000 Since the prehistoric ages!

01:33:50.000 In the days of ancient Greece! 0.87

01:33:52.000 And the earth kept going through changes!

01:33:54.000 Hey, come on in!

01:33:55.000 Let them see the studio!

01:33:57.000 There's like a complete pig pen in this office.

01:34:01.000 There's like 90% of the equipment's out of it.

01:34:04.000 Let them see the studio. 0.94

01:34:05.000 It's like a complete pig pet in his office.

01:34:12.000 There's like 90% of the equipment's out of it.

01:34:15.000 We're not even here most of the time.

01:34:17.000 I better not let folks know my location.

01:34:22.000 a certain talk show host local will have his wife over and go after the vehicles again.

01:34:25.000 It doesn't matter.

01:34:34.000 I got so much surveillance over here, it'll make your head spin.

01:34:38.000 All right, I'm in too good a mood right now.

01:34:42.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:46.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, I said I'd take your calls, and I want to hear from you.

01:34:51.000 Down nations, destroy.

01:34:53.000 I want to hear from you, and I want to talk to you.

01:34:56.000 So let's talk to Stan in Missouri.

01:34:59.000 You're on the air, Stan, good to hear from you.

01:35:01.000 Hello, Alex.

01:35:03.000 Hi.

01:35:03.000 Hey, is this Farmer Stan?

01:35:05.000 I haven't heard from you in about a year.

01:35:06.000 I know, I know, my friend, I know.

01:35:08.000 My little sweetie pie.

01:35:11.000 Monday night, and I listened to you talking about Obama and what they want to do here in Missouri, being as I am from Missouri.

01:35:18.000 I tried to tell my sister-in-law about that last night, how they're wanting to stifle freedom here in Missouri, and anybody who makes any kind of derogatory comments in writing or on the news media about Obama.

01:35:29.000 She absolutely went completely ballistic, Alex!

01:35:33.000 She said, where did you get that from?

01:35:36.000 And I said, well, I heard it on the radio when this Alex Jones even had comments in the Kansas City News.

01:35:44.000 And she just completely left me and said, all that is is nothing but barroom talk. 0.98

01:35:52.000 Well, it was on a bunch of TV stations there.

01:35:55.000 They had the sheriffs and prosecutors on there saying that if you talk bad about Obama and they decide that it's a lie, they're going to come arrest you.

01:36:02.000 And now they backed off and apologized in the newspapers yesterday, so I didn't even cover it.

01:36:07.000 But I mean, I guess she thinks that The bankers aren't trying to cheat us either?

01:36:13.000 I mean, I guess Obama's trying to... Well, Alex, let me tell you something, my friend.

01:36:17.000 These people are, like you're always saying, they're living in complete denial.

01:36:21.000 They are dumbed down from years of watching the news media, and all they think about watching on TV is Comedy Central or Jimmy Kimmel, poking fun of all this.

01:36:31.000 As far as I'm concerned, these comedians, they're no better than our federal government or Wall Street.

01:36:36.000 Well, that's what I was about to say.

01:36:39.000 I've been watching more TV lately, more news, and they have the men and the women just smiling with these fake smiles, and just fluffing everything.

01:36:49.000 And then the comedians, you'd think, are actually criticizing the politicians, but they're making it a joke!

01:36:56.000 And it's not a joke!

01:36:57.000 I mean, that's why I could have played the clips of Sarah Palin sounding ten times stupider than Miss South Carolina, but we never did it because It makes for good radio, but it's not a laughing matter.

01:37:09.000 Joke, Alex, when you were talking to one of your callers there Monday night, I can't pick you up very good during the daytime anymore, but one of your callers was advocating cutting the TV cables, and my friend, you done wise by telling people not to get involved with violence.

01:37:25.000 The time of violence, Alex, as far as I'm concerned, is already here.

01:37:29.000 The people in Columbia, Missouri, crime is just completely skyrocketing out of control, Albert.

01:37:35.000 Alex, You can call me Albert.

01:37:38.000 I've always liked that name.

01:37:40.000 Albert Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:37:45.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:37:46.000 The people don't realize what's going on, Alex.

01:37:49.000 The crime is absolutely sparring out of control in Columbia, Missouri.

01:37:52.000 And people haven't seen anything yet.

01:37:54.000 We go into a depression.

01:37:55.000 Look, we had a well-behaved, orderly Christian nation on average back in the 1920s and in the 30s.

01:38:02.000 Today, if we have a real depression, which it looks like is a foregone conclusion, you're not going to worry about the New World Order and the police.

01:38:09.000 The demonic public, the yuppies particularly, are going to be just, look out, Katie, bar the door.

01:38:16.000 Well, they have these churches completely dumbed down to you, Alex. 0.90

01:38:19.000 They turn these churches into nothing but country clubs, sir.

01:38:24.000 Well, it's on record that the Feds secretly pay 26,000 preachers to give anti-American speeches and tell people to turn their guns in.

01:38:32.000 Yes, we all know all about that, Alex.

01:38:35.000 It's all part of the freedom.

01:38:36.000 Yes, it is, sir.

01:38:38.000 Well, they just absolutely, the American people have just absolutely been dumbed down by all this, Alex.

01:38:46.000 Well, Farmer Stan, a lot of people are waking up, though.

01:38:49.000 We've got to say there's something, you know, there's a... There's several out there.

01:38:52.000 There's a rainbow.

01:38:53.000 There's a silver lining to the nerve gas cloud.

01:38:56.000 Yes.

01:38:58.000 Well, you know, the sad thing about it, you were talking, you were talking to one of your guests on there, the guy that was talking, Deacon Chapman, is that his name?

01:39:07.000 Bob Chapman.

01:39:08.000 Albert Chapman.

01:39:09.000 He is a very smart individual, but I'll tell you what now, if it ever comes down to what he's at, you know, was talking about guerrilla warfare and all this, I live right down, not too far from Whiteman Air Force Base.

01:39:21.000 Uh, Wagman has a stealth bomber.

01:39:23.000 They have a B-52.

01:39:24.000 They can absolutely wipe out these cities in a heartbeat, Alex.

01:39:27.000 I've talked to people in Special Forces that were in Panama, that told me what went on when they went in to get Noriega.

01:39:33.000 Puff the Magic Dragon.

01:39:35.000 Yes.

01:39:35.000 Lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist.

01:39:39.000 Yes.

01:39:40.000 With a huge Vulcan Gatling gun.

01:39:42.000 The land called Hala'li. 0.96

01:39:43.000 Yes.

01:39:45.000 Good to hear from you, Stan.

01:39:46.000 I appreciate it.

01:39:48.000 The truth is, the New World Order is very easy to militarily push over.

01:39:52.000 That's only one part of the equation.

01:39:54.000 The troops, mainly, although they're hiring illegal aliens and felons, are on our side. 0.98

01:39:58.000 A lot of the police in major polls, and we've covered those yesterday with Colonel Roberts on air, are actually on our side.

01:40:04.000 They had a poll like a year ago, a major national one, where 99% of police said they were pro-Second Amendment and wouldn't confiscate guns.

01:40:12.000 So, by and large, as I get a little bit more wise, it's the corrupt system.

01:40:18.000 By and large, the police aren't even the big problem, though they're where the rubber meets the road.

01:40:22.000 They do a lot of really bad things under orders, and some of them are a bunch of right-head nuts. 0.99

01:40:27.000 But they're not... a lot of them aren't stupid. 1.00

01:40:31.000 Or if they were stupid, they'd get street smart working on the streets, and they know a scam when they see one. 0.99

01:40:36.000 The problem is, the military predominantly will not fight back against the American people if things break down. 0.99

01:40:43.000 You know, they may try to maintain order, but if things turn into a shooting war, or arrest people, put them in FEMA camps, that's going to break down pretty fast.

01:40:51.000 They tried to use New Orleans for a few years as a laboratory of that.

01:40:54.000 The problem is, things will break down, and people will be starving to death, and they will beg to turn their guns in for food.

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01:45:35.000 Oh, I got mixed up here.

01:45:37.000 Scott in Arizona.

01:45:38.000 You are next, my friend.

01:45:41.000 Can I call you Albert?

01:45:44.000 Actually, that's my real name.

01:45:45.000 I don't know how Stan knows it.

01:45:46.000 My real name is Albert Louise Possum.

01:45:52.000 Anyways, go ahead.

01:45:52.000 You're talking to Albert Downs.

01:45:53.000 I think that's TMI.

01:45:56.000 I hope I have time for two points.

01:45:58.000 If you can hold me over the break, we have a commercial.

01:46:00.000 I'd appreciate it.

01:46:00.000 But the first one I want to talk about is Hegelian dialectic.

01:46:05.000 I think that's the operative term with respect to this bailout.

01:46:09.000 And for folks that have heard that term, I've heard you talk about it before, Alex.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, I was trying to get a good definition.

01:46:16.000 And basically what I'm saying... Alex, my name is Albert.

01:46:19.000 Okay, Albert. 0.93

01:46:19.000 I'm going to stop screwing around. 0.93

01:46:21.000 Go ahead.

01:46:22.000 All right, so Hegelian Dialectic, basically what it is is they guide us into a crisis or conflict that lead us to some sort of predetermined solution.

01:46:33.000 So what I'm seeing with respect to this bailout is I'm listening to media and I'm talking about alternative media, patriotic media, mainstream media.

01:46:42.000 I'm starting to hear noise about replacing the system.

01:46:45.000 The system is dead, we've got to replace it.

01:46:48.000 And their answer is a global government run by the bankers, the very people that engineered it.

01:46:53.000 Well, I'm not hearing... I always listen to the media carefully.

01:46:56.000 And I'm not hearing... You mean the mainstream TV or the financial publications?

01:47:01.000 Across the board.

01:47:01.000 I'm just starting to hear... So you haven't heard them call for a global government run by the bankers?

01:47:06.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:47:07.000 I did see some stuff in one of the British papers a couple days ago.

01:47:10.000 Some Wall Street Journal, you name it.

01:47:12.000 Kissinger's pushing it.

01:47:14.000 Well, yeah, I mean, he's been pushing it forever.

01:47:16.000 That's nothing new.

01:47:17.000 But what's new is this pushing us into the system's dead.

01:47:22.000 We've got to replace it.

01:47:24.000 And they want to bring in a new monetized Mero with the regional currencies, and you'll have to have a national ID card to track your carbon credits, which they're now announcing.

01:47:34.000 So if I could read, I just have a little quote out of a book I've also heard you mention many times by the Club of Rome called The First Global Revolution.

01:47:44.000 People haven't read Chapter 5.

01:47:45.000 I think Chapter 5 is only about 12 pages.

01:47:47.000 That's all you gotta read.

01:47:48.000 I mean, it really tells you everything there.

01:47:49.000 You might have to read it 20 times, but that tells you everything you need to know.

01:47:53.000 Here's a very short quote, if I can read it.

01:47:57.000 Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead.

01:48:03.000 Democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead.

01:48:07.000 The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.

01:48:16.000 What are we seeing right now? 0.99

01:48:18.000 They're telling us, our Congress, and the people are too stupid to make decisions about their financial future. 0.95

01:48:23.000 And they know the public thinks in 24-hour news cycles, and so the public, some of them, I'm glad to say the majority aren't being fooled, now think that Congress caused the stock market to plunge 700 points, and now believe this is all a new problem, and then they have the other lie that it was all caused by subprime mortgages, which then again blames the public. 0.88

01:48:45.000 So if democracy is inefficient and can no longer, is no longer... Sir, Richard N. Haas, in the same Club of Rome documents, says we'll use fake environmentalism to take their rights and stage terror.

01:48:56.000 I mean, these guys are... I mean, you could take the quote from David Rockefeller about how we, you know, don't want people running their own countries, we want bankers running it.

01:49:05.000 Yep.

01:49:05.000 They tell you right there in that book that they're going to engineer food shortages, water shortages, and then global warming.

01:49:12.000 And then they talk about it.

01:49:13.000 And who set up the meeting in 1989 in Washington, D.C.?

01:49:15.000 Al Gore.

01:49:16.000 And then the PR population thinks that the big Texas oilman, Boone Pickens, is putting up air-powered deals in the panhandle of Texas and into other states.

01:49:29.000 But really, it's all about grabbing the water supply.

01:49:32.000 And that's all admitted.

01:49:34.000 I didn't know that.

01:49:36.000 Oh yeah, that's a stealth deal to grab the biggest aquifer in the U.S.

01:49:40.000 But it's for the Earth, so it's good.

01:49:43.000 Do I have another minute to quote something from another book?

01:49:46.000 Yes, sir.

01:49:47.000 Okay, so for those people out there, and I know a lot of people you mentioned, I try and get through this material that everybody brings up, at least try and scan it, and we got Carol Quigley's Tragedy of Hope.

01:49:58.000 The big thousand page plus monster that who can get, I can't get through it.

01:50:03.000 What I found was Cleon Skousen wrote a nice little hundred and fifty page summary of that book called The Naked Capitalist.

01:50:11.000 Which really summarizes what Quigley was saying in his book.

01:50:14.000 Explaining that the bankers created communism and fascism as consolidation combines.

01:50:21.000 It really goes through all the main points that Quigley was trying to make.

01:50:24.000 So for people, if you can find it, it took me quite a while to find the Navy Capitalist.

01:50:28.000 We have his nephew on sometime.

01:50:31.000 Right, I think his nephew, Joel, actually helped out the Paul campaign.

01:50:36.000 This quote's a little bit longer, if I could.

01:50:37.000 Go ahead and read it.

01:50:40.000 Um, everything the super, super rich collectivists do must be accomplished in an atmosphere of propaganda and deception.

01:50:48.000 Boy, do we know that.

01:50:50.000 Stay there.

01:50:50.000 On the other side, you can read it, then we're going to move on to other calls.

01:50:53.000 And our illustrious guest is only 10 minutes away.

01:50:56.000 I get nervous.

01:50:57.000 I hope he calls in.

01:50:59.000 And, uh... Funny, Paul.

01:51:04.000 Albert Jones has got a powerful radio show.

01:51:07.000 Man, everybody's talking about that Albert Jones.

01:51:10.000 Folks, I'm under so much stress, that's why I've been screwing around more, because I gotta laugh or I'd cry.

01:51:15.000 Alright, stay there, uh, Scott.

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01:54:17.000 Okay, Scott, go ahead and read your quote, your Carol Quigley quote.

01:54:29.000 Okay, this is, again, this is from Cleon Stoutman's book called The Naked Catboy.

01:54:34.000 It's for those people that want to go search for it and find it on the web.

01:54:38.000 But let me just start again.

01:54:39.000 I read the first sentence previously.

01:54:41.000 Everything that super-rich collectivists do must be accomplished in an atmosphere of propaganda and deception.

01:54:47.000 Otherwise, they keep running into a groundswell of resentment and resistance as they try to compel middle-class Americans to give up their independence Their property and their constitutional prerogatives.

01:54:58.000 Let me repeat that.

01:54:59.000 Give up their independence, their property, and their constitutional prerogatives.

01:55:05.000 And what is the current strategy of the establishment?

01:55:07.000 It is two-pronged.

01:55:09.000 First, pressure from the top.

01:55:11.000 Second, pressure from the bottom.

01:55:13.000 The current tactic is to create revolution, create revolution, violence, and extremely serious dislocation at the bottom.

01:55:23.000 Let me just read that.

01:55:24.000 They want to create revolution, violence, and extremely serious social dislocation at the bottom, while simultaneously creating an ever-increasing pressure at the top for monolithic powers by demanding that the executive branch of a federal government be given massive power to, quote-unquote, solve all these problems.

01:55:44.000 I mean, we're watching this happen as we speak.

01:55:47.000 We're watching right now the bailout.

01:55:49.000 The executive branch is trying to, this is about a power grab more than it is about money because they're already spending the money.

01:55:55.000 So what we're seeing here, you read these quotes, we're seeing this being enacted as we go through this.

01:56:07.000 Now I hear you, and you're absolutely right, and that's the historical fact, and that's what we try To get people to think about here, and I appreciate your call, Scott.

01:56:17.000 Bernard, Steve, Mark, Mike, Kevin, and others, our next guest is only going to be with us for 20 minutes.

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01:56:32.000 We are going to skip the five after break.

01:56:34.000 Everybody else will be back after that.

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01:56:41.000 And then we'll come in with them and skip that segment, that break.

01:56:45.000 And so we have a full 20-something minutes with our guest today.

01:56:49.000 So I'm excited about that because more and more we see people really breaking the left-right paradigm and getting the big picture.

01:57:00.000 About what's happened in our society.

01:57:02.000 We're also going to continue with phone calls the last 40 minutes of the show, and get into the latest economic developments, what's happening with the stock market, what's happening with commodities, oil, gold, silver, today as well.

01:57:16.000 And the Senate is set at 7 o'clock Eastern tonight to vote on the quote, bailout package.

01:57:21.000 Now again, as the caller said, the money isn't even a big issue.

01:57:24.000 That $700 billion alone.

01:57:25.000 Bloomberg and others report it's more like $5 trillion.

01:57:28.000 That is a big issue.

01:57:29.000 It's all very important.

01:57:31.000 But compared to the fact that they want to get immunity, and compared to the fact that they want to give even more power to the Treasury, and the fact that they have the mainstream media trying to bully the American people into going along with this, this is not going to save the economic system.

01:57:53.000 And so we do live in very, very, very interesting times right now.

01:58:01.000 And we've, you know, people that understand that this is not, quote, capitalism.

01:58:05.000 This is crony capitalism.

01:58:06.000 This is corruption.

01:58:07.000 And the media now, Vladimir Putin came out bad-mouthing the U.S.

01:58:10.000 today.

01:58:11.000 And a lot of people are saying capitalism has caused all this.

01:58:15.000 This is not capitalism when you have corruption and you have people in derivatives running all sorts of economic scams.

01:58:24.000 This is corruption, and we're talking about over a thousand trillion dollars in derivatives.

01:58:33.000 And that certainly is not the fault of people with subprime mortgages.

01:58:36.000 They certainly are guilty of lying on the applications, but this is a system-wide problem.

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02:00:23.000 I was flattered to hear that he's heard the radio show and tuned in.

02:00:26.000 And we have Chuck Norris with us for 20 minutes.

02:00:28.000 The new book is out, and I have read much of it.

02:00:31.000 I just got it a few days ago.

02:00:32.000 Black Belt Patriotism, How to Reawaken America, martial arts master, actor, and political activist.

02:00:38.000 We're also live.

02:00:39.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:00:40.000 PrisonPlanet.tv streaming from the studio.

02:00:42.000 There is the book for folks watching.

02:00:43.000 I don't want to waste any time with any more introduction.

02:00:45.000 He is one of the few people that doesn't need one, kind of like Jesse Ventura, the governor on with us last hour, coming down to an event I'm putting on, Willie Nelson, coming up later this month on the 26th.

02:00:55.000 Chuck Norris, it is great to have you, sir.

02:00:57.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:00:58.000 It's a pleasure to be on your show.

02:01:00.000 You know, so much has happened, so much has been unfolding lately.

02:01:05.000 I wanted to get your take first on the bailout that's going on right now.

02:01:10.000 You know, I don't know if it's going to relieve the pressure on our citizens and our Americans.

02:01:16.000 I'm all for it.

02:01:16.000 You know, it's so complicated, Alex, you know, and unless you really delve into that to find out exactly what it's going to do, it's a very difficult situation to determine.

02:01:26.000 And I just hope If they do pass the bill, that it's not in vain.

02:01:31.000 We're not going to waste another trillion dollars unnecessarily.

02:01:37.000 I'll tell you, that's why I wrote this book.

02:01:42.000 I really did a lot of research because I am so worried, like so many people in America are, about the future, about the direction our country's heading economically, and our national debt, and immigration, and all these issues we're facing.

02:01:56.000 You know, and doing all the research on this book here, and finding out that the Founding Fathers had a vision for America, and it was not corrupted by greed and power.

02:02:08.000 And the politicians are so disconnected from the will of the people.

02:02:13.000 We've got to do something about it, Alex.

02:02:18.000 That's why in this book here, I just give eight major problems America's facing.

02:02:23.000 And I give my own common sense solutions to solving these problems.

02:02:26.000 You know, the first chapter deals with the, I believe we've forgotten our roots and have drifted from the principles and belief that our country is founded upon.

02:02:34.000 You know, and then the second chapter is about our national debt, you know, and then the third one is about our nation's borders and the illegal immigration and going all the way down to them.

02:02:43.000 I think we lost our moral compass in America, the evaluation of human life, feeling of our children, and actually I talk about our health problems also.

02:02:53.000 You know, I think we have a huge serious health problem here in America.

02:02:57.000 Yeah, you talk about the trans fats and other chemicals in the food.

02:03:01.000 I mean, even if you try to be healthy and eat that stuff, you're going to get sick because it's deadly.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, it is.

02:03:06.000 It is.

02:03:07.000 But the thing is, you just got to be more cautious of what it is.

02:03:10.000 And knowing the right times to eat and the amounts that you eat.

02:03:14.000 We're the most over-eaten country in the world.

02:03:18.000 I've been over to Europe and people are very cautious about how they do eat.

02:03:21.000 Yeah, giant portions.

02:03:23.000 They have big gulp drinks at 7-Eleven the size of small trash cans now.

02:03:28.000 I know, I know.

02:03:29.000 And this thing, we need to put the pressure on our fast food chains too.

02:03:32.000 You know, start improving on the quality of the foods, you know, don't make them so fat-related, you know.

02:03:38.000 Did you like the movie, the film, Fast Food Nation?

02:03:41.000 I thought it was pretty good.

02:03:43.000 Yeah, it was.

02:03:46.000 But, you know, the thing is, Alex, we have such a bloated federal bureaucracy, you know, in government.

02:03:53.000 I'll give you an example.

02:03:55.000 How many pages do you think there are in the IRS tax code?

02:04:00.000 I know it's in the tens of thousands, and then they have all these... Yeah, exactly.

02:04:06.000 66,498 pages, Alex.

02:04:07.000 You know, and the thing is, who in the world knows what's in those 66,000 pages?

02:04:12.000 Charlie Rangel, he doesn't know.

02:04:17.000 And he writes the tax code.

02:04:18.000 Well, that's what George Orwell said, that in a tyranny, the government writes laws that makes everybody criminal.

02:04:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:04:25.000 And a good example of that is in 2005, I went researching this book, I found out in 2005, over 6,000 taxpayers, making over $250,000 a year, paid absolutely no taxes.

02:04:38.000 So we have a broken system here in the country.

02:04:40.000 In fact, it was unconstitutional until 1913 to even tax our people, and then in 1913 we had the 16th Amendment that made IRS legal.

02:04:51.000 Well, Chuck, I know you're very well educated, because I know a lot of Dallas police and state police and folks that know you, who years ago, before I ever actually confirmed it, said that you were aware of some of the work that I do and Ron Paul and others.

02:05:04.000 And I mean, that's it.

02:05:05.000 We have private bankers, the New World Order, that control both parties.

02:05:08.000 What's your take on all this globalization and the North American Union and the trans-Texas corridor?

02:05:14.000 Well, you know, going on, I campaigned for Mike Huckabee, you know, and I met thousands of millennials.

02:05:21.000 You know, it's interesting to see their take on our country and our world.

02:05:25.000 And listen, actually I put them in my book, some of the statements they made.

02:05:29.000 And they said, you know, they think that America has stretched her boundaries too far into other countries' business.

02:05:36.000 And they say, we believe that America overplays the role of world peace officer.

02:05:41.000 They believe America sends too much money abroad.

02:05:44.000 They think we've doled out too much money for foreign aid.

02:05:47.000 It's become an empire.

02:05:49.000 It has become an empire.

02:05:51.000 Listen to this.

02:05:53.000 Barack Obama wants to send $50 billion to the United Nations as soon as he gets into office.

02:05:59.000 Now, for the poor, which sounds fine.

02:06:02.000 But the thing is, when I was in Korea, Alex, we have hundreds of orphanages over there in Korea.

02:06:09.000 And so America was sending over thousands of dollars in food, aid, medical and money And only 10% of what was sent over there reached the orphanages.

02:06:22.000 90% went into the pockets of corrupted politicians over there.

02:06:25.000 Well, remember after 9-11, when even the Red Cross and others and United Way got over $5 billion, and then they said every dime would go, but then they kept half of it, and then gave some of the money to gun control groups.

02:06:36.000 Yeah, I know.

02:06:37.000 It's crazy.

02:06:39.000 And so the thing is, at $50 billion, how much is really going to go to the poor?

02:06:44.000 And how much money is going to go in the pockets of the corrupted politicians in the United Nations?

02:06:48.000 That's what concerns me.

02:06:50.000 We keep sending money out, and the money's not going where it should be going.

02:06:55.000 Plus, we've got to worry about our people here in our own country.

02:06:58.000 We've got the downtrodden, the homeless.

02:07:00.000 We have very poor people in our own country that need to be taken care of first, before we start doling out money to other nations.

02:07:08.000 Absolutely.

02:07:10.000 The problem we face is we get different rhetoric from the two parties, but when it comes to action, and I know you're a loyal person and been quite a bit loyal to the Republicans.

02:07:17.000 No, I'm not really.

02:07:18.000 Because at least on their platform they were better, but I mean, that's what I'm saying.

02:07:23.000 What's your take on how both political parties now seem to be going in one direction, you know, 91% of the American people in Gallup polls want to control our borders, or 70 plus percent don't want to be in Iraq, or on and on and on, or 90% don't want the bailout.

02:07:38.000 But they're still trying to pass it.

02:07:40.000 Yeah.

02:07:41.000 You know, truthfully, when the Republicans were in control of the Congress in those first six years of Bush's, you know, they ran us into the ground.

02:07:54.000 So the Democrats said, well, we'll change everything.

02:07:56.000 We'll make everything better.

02:07:58.000 So now the Democrats have control of Congress, and they've run us deeper into the ground.

02:08:03.000 I don't know who to trust.

02:08:04.000 I don't think I don't trust any of them.

02:08:05.000 Ron Paul is the only guy I trust.

02:08:07.000 And like you heard, Alex, if I had one wish, to give me one wish, I'd like to line up all the members of Congress and have Ron Paul walk with me down the line and say, OK, which one's corrupted?

02:08:22.000 Which one's corrupted? 0.71

02:08:23.000 And the ones he points to as corrupted, I'll just choke them unconscious and stick them into a pile. 0.92

02:08:29.000 You know, kind of an off-center joke for me.

02:08:32.000 Well, I saw that in the Cleveland Plain Dealer and he said, I'd keep sticking them in a pile, piling them up so the martial arts star, who at 68 looks as young and buff as in his Walker, Texas Ranger glory days, the ones that are honest, they stay.

02:08:49.000 And that's my next point, and you get into some of this in the book, but you say that you're aware of some of the things I cover and what Ron Paul gets into.

02:08:57.000 Chuck, a lot of conservatives listen to you.

02:09:00.000 I'm aware like you are, or like I am, that the party has been taken over by these multinational corporations, by the foreign lobbyists, by the special interests.

02:09:09.000 I was asking you about the Globalist, the New World Order, the North American Union, the Army Times.

02:09:14.000 I know you're a big supporter of the military.

02:09:16.000 But if we support the military, we've got to keep them doing jobs that are constitutional.

02:09:20.000 They're announcing NORTHCOM is now going to have active-duty brigades in the U.S.

02:09:26.000 to, quote, deal with civil unrest.

02:09:30.000 I mean, that violates posse comitatus.

02:09:32.000 And I know you're a big friend of law enforcement, but the police I talk to, they're getting upset about the spying on citizens.

02:09:40.000 Well, the thing is, we can't.

02:09:41.000 It's such a complicated mess, but I agree with you, Alex.

02:09:44.000 really have the government circle the wagons against the people so that we can't remove them from office.

02:09:50.000 Can you speak to that?

02:09:51.000 Well, you know, the thing is that we can't.

02:09:53.000 You know, the thing...

02:09:56.000 It's such a complicated mess, but I agree with you, Alex.

02:10:00.000 You cannot start spying on the citizens of America.

02:10:05.000 I mean, we're getting them spying on with the Internet.

02:10:09.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:10:11.000 I mean, I can't even blow my nose without somebody knowing it on the Internet.

02:10:16.000 It's crazy.

02:10:18.000 We're all an open book today with the wild frontier of the Internet.

02:10:25.000 But the thing is, we cannot have law enforcement going in and breaking down doors with just suspicions.

02:10:34.000 Well, that's the problem.

02:10:35.000 That's the problem is that they're given these unfunded federal mandates.

02:10:40.000 They're not allowed to do their constitutional jobs, like control the borders.

02:10:43.000 And we have 800-plus sanctuary cities that are bankrupting the city, county, state governments.

02:10:48.000 And then the police go out and squeeze and squeeze with asset forfeiture, seizure, and things that violate due process.

02:10:55.000 And most of the police I talk to personally, they don't like what's happening, but they're basically being given these orders.

02:11:01.000 I mean, are we coming to the time When we need more and more police organizations to say no to unconstitutional actions like, are you aware, because it hasn't gotten a lot of attention, not just gun confiscation in New Orleans, the governor, who needs to be impeached in Illinois, a month ago, and I can play the clip if you want to hear it, said that they want to use the National Guard for gun sweeps and gun confiscation in the entire state of Illinois.

02:11:24.000 Oh boy.

02:11:25.000 That's not good.

02:11:26.000 Where do you stand on gun confiscation?

02:11:28.000 Well, you know, I have a ranch.

02:11:30.000 I believe in bearing arms.

02:11:33.000 I really do, Alex.

02:11:34.000 I believe the Americans have the right to bear arms.

02:11:37.000 And the thing is, I wouldn't want anyone taking my guns away from me on my ranch here.

02:11:45.000 But the thing is, you have to be responsible.

02:11:49.000 I mean, responsibility.

02:11:51.000 But the thing is with the Constitution, you know, the Constitution is being played from both ends.

02:11:57.000 a living document today.

02:11:57.000 Yes.

02:11:59.000 You know, it's not a solid document that it should be.

02:12:01.000 And Patrick Henry said it diligently.

02:12:03.000 I mean, he said, "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people.

02:12:08.000 It's an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives." I really believe the government is dominating our lives, Alex.

02:12:15.000 I believe that they are dictating everything that they feel we should do, rather than us dictating to the government what should be in our best interest.

02:12:24.000 And it's irritating.

02:12:25.000 Absolutely.

02:12:26.000 Well, you cover a lot of that in Black Belt Patriotism, How to Reawaken America, Chuck Norris.

02:12:33.000 You know, I went to the House.

02:12:36.000 I was in D.C.

02:12:37.000 a few months ago, my wife and I, and we walked into the House chamber, and here's 435 congressmen They're screaming at each other across the aisle.

02:12:48.000 And I'm watching this, I can't even hear myself think, and they're screaming about some bill.

02:12:52.000 And I'm thinking, here's 435 congressmen looking like 8th graders, screaming at each other, and not getting anything resolved.

02:13:02.000 And finally the House Speaker said, OK, that's enough, time out.

02:13:07.000 Everyone stopped and walked off.

02:13:08.000 I'm thinking, this is like an 8th grade class where the teacher's gone and everyone's just going crazy.

02:13:12.000 And I said, no wonder we don't get anything resolved in our country.

02:13:16.000 And if they do resolve something, then it's inedible.

02:13:19.000 You know, it's like, you know, it is the bailout.

02:13:23.000 I mean, all the money we're spending to AIG and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and, you know, and now Merrill Lynch, you know.

02:13:31.000 Those are multinational corporations.

02:13:33.000 What these CEOs are getting when they leave the company, it's just crazy the amount of money these CEOs have run the company down.

02:13:44.000 And then they get a hundred million dollar bailout.

02:13:46.000 I mean, it's crazy.

02:13:48.000 Well, Chuck Norris, you know what's happening.

02:13:49.000 They've created all this false paper, these derivatives, that nothing is backing them but the U.S.

02:13:55.000 taxpayer.

02:13:56.000 And most of these companies are global corporations.

02:13:58.000 Secretary Paulson's come out and said they want to bail out foreign banks.

02:14:01.000 But this is a black hole that we can't bail out.

02:14:04.000 It's a black hole, Alex.

02:14:05.000 And we're going to bail ourselves right into bankruptcy in our country.

02:14:09.000 Chuck, a lot of people respect you on both sides of the aisle.

02:14:12.000 The American people, I mean, everybody I know loves Chuck Norris.

02:14:15.000 And for people listening, I know you're a smart guy and I know you try to hold back and be an even-headed guy and be restrained.

02:14:22.000 But tell us, here in this interview with the six minutes we've got left, Bottom line, what you think the individuals could do, because we know the foreign interest have seized Washington, both parties.

02:14:33.000 I know you know that they're hiring felons for the military, illegal aliens for the military.

02:14:38.000 They're turning mercenary forces loose that are now not even based in the U.S.

02:14:43.000 They signed a deal earlier this year for NORTHCOM to use Canadian and Mexican troops in the U.S.

02:14:47.000 If you're not aware of that, I can give you the mainstream stories.

02:14:50.000 Congress has been told they're not involved in that.

02:14:55.000 It's like in Germany. 0.75

02:14:56.000 You're not against the German military if you're a German until bad people take control of it. 0.99

02:15:00.000 And there has to be a point if they're planning to use the military against the American people that we say no.

02:15:05.000 So, I mean, are you against or are you aware that they're felons, that they're now hiring for the military?

02:15:09.000 No, I didn't.

02:15:10.000 I didn't know that.

02:15:11.000 But, you know, the thing is, what I'm really concerned about is our people in America who work week to week and make a living from paycheck to paycheck.

02:15:21.000 And all of a sudden that becoming, you know, where they can't live from paycheck to paycheck.

02:15:26.000 That's why I'm so in favor of the fair tax concept, Alex, because the thing is there's $13 trillion in offshore accounts.

02:15:34.000 Yes.

02:15:34.000 You know, that's where the super rich are hiding their money.

02:15:37.000 And so if we had a fair tax, the super rich could bring their $13 trillion back into our economy and give our economy a huge boost.

02:15:45.000 The 3 million manufacturing jobs that are being outsourced to other countries They can all come back because they're not going to be taxed to death.

02:15:52.000 You know, we got income tax, employment tax, capital gains, estate, corporate property, social security.

02:15:58.000 We're being taxed to death, Alex.

02:16:01.000 We're talking to Chuck Norris, the new book, Black Belt Patriotism.

02:16:01.000 Well, you're right.

02:16:05.000 I have to say with this book, it is, I don't want to say eclectic, but it's a great mix of health, patriotism, ways to fix America.

02:16:14.000 It also gets, you know, some into your Martial arts history and before you leave in about four minutes, I just want to bring it up now or my listeners will kill me.

02:16:23.000 Just a few words from you about what it was like actually knowing Bruce Lee and being his best black belt and then starring in films with him.

02:16:31.000 What was that like?

02:16:32.000 Well, you know, Bruce and I became good friends.

02:16:34.000 He was back in New York when I won the world title in 1968.

02:16:37.000 And then, you know, we started working out together in L.A.

02:16:41.000 and then he left for Hong Kong to pursue his movie career.

02:16:44.000 I didn't hear from him for a couple of years, and then he called me out of the blue and said, Chuck, I've done two movies and they're really successful.

02:16:50.000 I want to do a movie now with a fight scene in the Colosseum in Rome, and I'd like for you to be my opponent.

02:16:57.000 So kiddingly, I said, well, Bruce, who wins this fight?

02:17:00.000 I win!

02:17:00.000 I'm the star of this movie!

02:17:02.000 I said, oh, because I held the world title at that time.

02:17:04.000 And I said, oh, I see.

02:17:05.000 You want to beat up the world champion, huh? 0.99

02:17:07.000 He says, "No, I want to kill the world champion." But you know, I have to tell you-- - Who would have really won? 0.95

02:17:12.000 I mean, no holds barred. - I don't know, I was a professional fighter.

02:17:16.000 But the thing is, Bruce was an incredible martial artist.

02:17:19.000 And you know, you never want to say you could do something unless you proved it, you know.

02:17:23.000 But I have to tell you, I've done 23 movies and 203 episodes of "Walker, Texas Ranger" and I've never gotten one encouraging review in all the years I've done in the entertainment world.

02:17:35.000 Now I write a book, but I felt patriotism, and I've got three five-star ratings.

02:17:39.000 One moment, Laura Berenger wrote, not being a huge Chuck Norris fan, I wasn't sure what to expect.

02:17:45.000 Having just finished it, I have to confess that I was quickly drawn in and captivated by the contents of the book, and actually pleasantly surprised by its insight, depth, research, genuineness, Practicality and motivating nature.

02:17:58.000 This is not just another political diatribe.

02:18:00.000 It's a cultural, cultural manifesto.

02:18:03.000 I have never gotten a review like that in my life, Alex.

02:18:05.000 Well, you know what's happening, Chuck?

02:18:08.000 A lot of mainline liberals, obviously, were angry at your political stance on the Second Amendment and things like that.

02:18:13.000 But now they see so much.

02:18:15.000 And the left is disenfranchised with the left.

02:18:17.000 The right is disenfranchised with the right.

02:18:19.000 The people are figuring that out and coming together.

02:18:21.000 And there's a huge awakening happening.

02:18:23.000 And I appreciate your... Well, I hope so.

02:18:26.000 You know, we need to get away from liberalism and conservatism and think about Americanism, Alex.

02:18:32.000 Well, look at the crisis right now in closing.

02:18:34.000 I mean, Ron Paul was right about everything he said about the time bomb with the economy and the banks.

02:18:38.000 He sure as heck was.

02:18:39.000 And I mean, you're supporting Ron Paul now.

02:18:41.000 Do you wish he could, you know, come in and run as a third party?

02:18:43.000 Well, Ron, you know, why back Mike Huckabee?

02:18:47.000 Because Mike Huckabee espoused fair tax.

02:18:50.000 Which I really believe in.

02:18:52.000 But then when he got out, you were supporting Ron Paul until he got out.

02:18:55.000 You need to call Ron Paul and draft him to try to run third party now in the last month, just to inject real issues.

02:19:01.000 Well, everybody's asking me to run a third party.

02:19:05.000 Who knows what's going to happen, Alex.

02:19:06.000 Chuck, why don't you run for president in 2012?

02:19:09.000 Oh man, they need somebody who's smarter than me.

02:19:13.000 You know, Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul.

02:19:15.000 That's what I'd like to have.

02:19:17.000 Absolutely.

02:19:18.000 Chuck Norris, I want to say bye to you just for a minute off air here, but give us the website.

02:19:23.000 People can find this in bookstores everywhere.

02:19:25.000 I got this at the bookstore, but where else can they get it?

02:19:27.000 Give us some of your websites.

02:19:29.000 They can get it at the Amazon.com and they can get it at the Borders and the Barnes and Noble.

02:19:38.000 They can also get it at Regnery, that's the publisher.

02:19:41.000 Regnery is our publisher, yeah.

02:19:42.000 Okay, Black Belt Patriotism, How to Reawaken America. 0.92

02:19:45.000 Chuck Norris, thank you so much.

02:19:47.000 Okay, let me talk to him, John.

02:19:49.000 Hey, Mr. Norris.

02:19:50.000 Yeah, you bet.

02:19:51.000 Listen, I'd like to get you up some time for 45 minutes or so to take calls, and just in closing, I didn't know that you'd... I mean, I've been told by some police years ago that you were aware of stuff, and they've given you some of my films.

02:20:02.000 I didn't know if that was the case, but you have heard the show before?

02:20:05.000 Oh, yeah, I did, yeah, because I've been in Austin quite a bit.

02:20:09.000 And so, you know, I catch your show when I'm down there.

02:20:12.000 What do you overall, I mean, I'm trying to get your view overall of the types of things I talk about are a real conservatism.

02:20:18.000 Yeah, I tell you, what you're talking about, Alex, is right on.

02:20:22.000 I mean, we got some serious issues in our country, and you're addressing them, and that's what I appreciate about your show.

02:20:28.000 You do address the issues that we're facing right now, and a lot of people aren't aware of it.

02:20:34.000 That's the problem, you know, and that's what's good, is that you're Keeping people abreast of the problems we're having in our country.

02:20:40.000 Well, I know you've got more interviews coming up.

02:20:41.000 There's no chance of keeping you over.

02:20:42.000 We've got to let you go.

02:20:44.000 Yeah, I've got one in five minutes.

02:20:45.000 I'm told you're doing interview after interview all day long, but we really appreciate you having the courage to come on this show.

02:20:51.000 I know it's been somewhat controversial for folks, but all I try to do is defend the Republic, and I know in your heart you're a good guy.

02:20:58.000 I'm the same way, Alex.

02:21:00.000 The thing is, everyone says I'm a Republican.

02:21:03.000 I'm an independent thinker.

02:21:05.000 You know, I lean conservative, but I'm an independent guy.

02:21:09.000 So am I, but that's what I'm saying is that even though I've disagreed with a few people you've supported or a few things you've done, I've known your heart was right, and I've known you've known things that I didn't have from my perspective, and so I've just always known that you were a good guy and against the globalists, and I would just love to have you... You know, I tell you what, I'm only two hours away from you.

02:21:29.000 My ranch is right near College Station.

02:21:32.000 And so I'm only a couple hours away, so one day, Gene, and I'll drive down.

02:21:35.000 I'll let you know.

02:21:35.000 I'll call you.

02:21:36.000 I got your phone number here.

02:21:37.000 So when I can make it down there, I'll give you a buzz and see if you have time to get me on the air.

02:21:42.000 Well, fantastic.

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02:23:46.000 We already did over an hour with Governor Jesse Ventura earlier.

02:23:48.000 areas to...

02:23:49.000 This is the last segment I'm going to be streaming live on PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:23:58.000 We already did it over an hour with Governor Jesse Ventura earlier.

02:24:01.000 I was talking to Chuck Norris during the break.

02:24:04.000 A little bit of a matter going on on the web, but we cut it off.

02:24:07.000 Point is, I forgot to add, and he wanted me to add, that 100% of the proceeds that he's getting, his 20% or whatever, from the publisher, goes to his Kickstart Foundation for children.

02:24:20.000 And I know that's a good foundation he has.

02:24:22.000 He's really into having real charities.

02:24:24.000 You heard him attacking charities that don't actually do what they say they're going to do.

02:24:28.000 But, I mean, this is just his book sale, and so this is a pure charity, kind of like Paul Newman and his foods.

02:24:33.000 What a great guy, Paul Newman.

02:24:34.000 What a loss.

02:24:34.000 I haven't even talked about him.

02:24:36.000 I had that in my stack, you know, quotes about him, you know, by him saying, hey, I don't see myself as a philanthropist or some kind of angel.

02:24:42.000 I'm just like a farmer.

02:24:43.000 I believe you need to put back into the soil what you take out.

02:24:46.000 But, yeah, Black Belt Patriotism really is a great book.

02:24:50.000 And Chuck Norris is wanting to support the Republicans because he thought they were better than the Democrats.

02:24:55.000 Now he's really waking up, and he's a supporter of Ron Paul, and he told me off-air and on-air that he's been listening to the show for years, and then he said we ought to get together sometime, and people like him don't just say that.

02:25:08.000 So we'll see.

02:25:09.000 I think you're seeing the evolution of Chuck Norris.

02:25:12.000 I mean, guys, how exciting is that?

02:25:14.000 Because you guys got to hear the behind-the-scenes.

02:25:16.000 Pretty exciting, huh?

02:25:18.000 I mean, because what's exciting to me is if I just had Chuck Norris on, talking about just Bruce Lee or himself, or just talking about movies, that'd be interesting, but that's not what the show's about.

02:25:27.000 It's about these icons.

02:25:29.000 And Chuck Norris is an icon.

02:25:31.000 I mean, you know, all these movies, TV, all the appearances.

02:25:34.000 I mean, people love Chuck Norris.

02:25:37.000 And there's a million positive jokes about Chuck Norris.

02:25:41.000 How do the jokes go?

02:25:44.000 There's so many of them.

02:25:45.000 And to see him becoming a Ron Paul supporter.

02:25:49.000 That's why I'm wearing my Ron Paul shirt today, ladies and gentlemen.

02:25:53.000 You see that?

02:25:53.000 People say, aha, he didn't win.

02:25:54.000 Yes, he did.

02:25:55.000 He was right.

02:25:56.000 He stuck to his guns.

02:25:57.000 He exposed the private Federal Reserve.

02:25:59.000 He did a great job.

02:26:01.000 And so, today we gave you Jesse Ventura and Chuck Norris, and people say, oh, celebrities don't matter.

02:26:07.000 Oh, is that why Coca-Cola and Disney will pay millions of dollars for them to work for them?

02:26:12.000 Is that why the government always wants celebrities to pitch their wars or pitch their police state actions or pitch their agenda?

02:26:20.000 No, celebrities do matter.

02:26:22.000 And especially when they write a great book like Black Belt Patriotism, and then getting people like Chuck Norris to be on the show and supporters of the show, people like Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, Charlie Sheen, Richard Linkletter.

02:26:37.000 Let me tell you this.

02:26:40.000 Over a year ago, I had Rick Linkletter on this show.

02:26:43.000 A year and a half ago.

02:26:45.000 Director.

02:26:45.000 Well-known director.

02:26:49.000 Just on the air.

02:26:50.000 I had him on about Scanner Darkly that I'm in and consulted on.

02:26:54.000 My good friend, Tommy Pallotta.

02:26:55.000 I need to call Tommy.

02:26:56.000 I'm so busy.

02:26:57.000 He just called me today.

02:26:58.000 Anyways, I'm thinking here.

02:26:59.000 Point is, I know Tommy's listening every time I mention him.

02:27:03.000 Anyways, and I had him on, and he just starts going off with, hey, I gave your videos, you know, Terror Storm and Martial Law to To Bruce Willis, when they were making a movie here together in Austin, and Bruce came back a month later and said, I'm totally woken up.

02:27:22.000 I'm no longer for the Republicans or the Democrats.

02:27:24.000 Now I see both sides of the paradigm.

02:27:26.000 Now I know 9-11's an inside job. 0.96

02:27:29.000 And Michelle Malcolm, the same one that said the Marines didn't throw the puppy off the cliff, and that I was a liar, and the same one that had her minions try to set me up in Denver and failed there again miserably. 0.73

02:27:37.000 She won for a few days and lost.

02:27:38.000 She won the battle, lost the war.

02:27:39.000 That's how it works.

02:27:41.000 The truth will prevail.

02:27:44.000 She came out and said, well, we know somebody that knows him.

02:27:47.000 Didn't give a name.

02:27:49.000 And he says Bruce Willis didn't say that, it's pure bull.

02:27:54.000 Then six months later, Vanity Fair.

02:27:56.000 Bruce Willis is on vacation, Turks and Caicos, in a fishing boat, does an interview with Vanity Fair, and says the same people that killed Kennedy are running things down, and basically 9-11, involved with 9-11, and I'm not involved in any of the parties anymore, and they're all evil.

02:28:13.000 I mean, Bruce Willis was like the number one front for the neocons, and he was not a bad guy.

02:28:18.000 And let me tell you, this guy was about number two.

02:28:22.000 So you see what we're doing, folks.

02:28:24.000 We are out there.

02:28:25.000 These are good men.

02:28:27.000 They care.

02:28:28.000 They never had the big picture, just like Ventura didn't.

02:28:30.000 Hey, two years ago, we go down to an interview with Jesse Ventura with Kinky Friedman.

02:28:36.000 I walk in there.

02:28:37.000 Ventura already knew who I was.

02:28:38.000 Yeah, I've seen some of your stuff.

02:28:39.000 Yeah.

02:28:40.000 I said, here's Terror Storm.

02:28:42.000 Here's Marshall Law.

02:28:44.000 And then that woke him up, and then his son brought him Loose Change 2nd Edition, and that made him go public, and he went public on this show.

02:28:50.000 And I had him on about his book, and he just says during a break, he says, now let's talk about 9-11.

02:28:54.000 I'm ready to do it.

02:28:55.000 In fact, that behind-the-scenes video, because we shot video in here, is at the end of Truth Rising.

02:29:00.000 That's how the film ends.

02:29:02.000 Is Ventura saying, I'm ready to talk, I'm ready to do it.

02:29:05.000 Because his passion for liberty, his passion for truth and freedom, these are good people.

02:29:11.000 Are they perfect?

02:29:11.000 No.

02:29:13.000 So I salute Chuck Norris.

02:29:14.000 I salute Jesse Ventura.

02:29:16.000 I salute people like Bruce Willis, who I know is getting... I'm not going to say anything, but... I love fighting the New World Order!

02:29:26.000 We are taking their superstars and turning them over to the side of light against the dark side.

02:29:31.000 We'll be right back with your phone calls, a ton of news, and a lot more on the one, the only, GCN!

02:29:37.000 We're on the march.

02:29:38.000 The Empire is on the run!

02:29:41.000 Yeah!

02:29:43.000 Yeah!

02:29:44.000 Cease Info Wars.

02:29:46.000 PrisonPlanet.tv Transmission.

02:29:47.000 Government is best which governs least.

02:29:49.000 Wake up and smell the fascism.

02:29:50.000 Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.

02:29:53.000 What?

02:29:57.000 I love Fight the New World Order.

Alex Jones Show - October 01, 2008

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