Alex Jones Show - 20081014_Tue_Alex

00:00:00.000 So does he.

00:00:03.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:07.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:12.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back live here.

00:00:28.000 We're transmitting over the AM and FM dial, global shortwave, the internet, satellite, and of course over PrisonPlanet.TV now for the next two hours.

00:00:39.000 We're getting connected up with him in Europe, Michael Tesarian, very interesting guest.

00:00:45.000 We've never had him on before, but I'm familiar with his work.

00:00:48.000 And I'll say this, I'm going as far With him as I can.

00:00:54.000 You know, he's a character a lot like David Icke in that he's alternative in his views from kind of the mainstream of alternative media and research.

00:01:05.000 But I think it's important work he's done and interesting and thought-provoking.

00:01:10.000 And I know this, what he's discovered about the elite, what the elite believe about themselves, what their mindset is,

00:01:18.000 uh... is uh... very very accurate for my own research of what they believe about themselves now is it real you know i uh... you know or ghost and goblins and all this real the point is the elite believe that they are channeling entities they are into the occult they do engage in satanism and occultism there are secret societies running our world there is a new world order uh... and so as soon as we get him on the line will bring him up uh... after the break

00:01:48.000 Some of the other news that we've been covering today, for those that just joined us, is the fact that the U.S.

00:01:57.000 Private Central Bank, the Federal Reserve, has pledged unlimited dollars.

00:02:02.000 Unlimited dollars!

00:02:05.000 Now, for a new dollar to be created, a debt is created.

00:02:09.000 A dollar of debt that taxpayers have to pay back.

00:02:11.000 So, foreign banks, foreign corporations, foreign insurance companies are being flooded.

00:02:16.000 We keep talking about hyperinflation this is mega hyperinflation uh... this is intensified hyperinflation this is you know every day it's not trillions it's the hundreds of trillions are talking about globally flooding the planet with u.s.

00:02:39.000 dollars in u.s.

00:02:40.000 backed government securities And ladies and gentlemen, to pay those securities when they come due, the tax man comes to knock on your door.

00:02:49.000 So not only have these foreign international banks set up a system where they triple A rated junk, or credit card debt, housing debt, and then sold the debt into the market as a premium investment.

00:03:04.000 Most of the international, the media is blaming it on the American people. 0.86

00:03:07.000 We're certainly suckers, but a small part of it.

00:03:09.000 And then now we're going to have to pay back all of this through income tax, and they're going to double taxes with hyperinflation, devaluing the currency.

00:03:20.000 And I know I keep talking about that because this is the end of the economy as we know it.

00:03:24.000 This will be Just so devastating, it is hard to even imagine.

00:03:29.000 Iceland, their money is being devalued very quickly.

00:03:32.000 Their grocery stores have seen double the volume of shoppers as their banks collapse and as they may not, quote, be able to buy more food.

00:03:40.000 That is out of the Associated Press and Bloomberg today.

00:03:45.000 And the globalists, the New World Order, crowded the same thing in Argentina.

00:03:50.000 But I challenge you to go read the story.

00:03:52.000 I have a link to it up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.

00:03:55.000 Icelandic shoppers splurge as currency woes reduce food imports.

00:04:00.000 After a four-year spending spree, Icelanders are flooding.

00:04:04.000 The supermarkets, one last time, stocking up on food as the collapse of the banking system threatens to cut the island off from imports.

00:04:12.000 And food and things are exploding in price in England and Japan.

00:04:15.000 Islands are particularly hard hit.

00:04:17.000 We have had crazy days for a week now, said Johan Samari Olvenson, manager of the Bonus Discount grocery store.

00:04:27.000 Sales have doubled, and it goes into the currency plunging, the banks shutting down.

00:04:31.000 And that's going to happen here, but in slower motion.

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00:07:46.000 Yeah, John, we're on air right now.

00:07:47.000 All right, Alex.

00:08:00.000 Yeah, John, we're on air right now.

00:08:02.000 What's up?

00:08:02.000 All right, our guest is in Europe right now. our guest is in Europe right now.

00:08:21.000 He was born in Ireland and he has made a lot of films, written quite a few books, very prolific.

00:08:29.000 We've had a lot of listeners request that we have him on.

00:08:31.000 I want to really get him to talk about the nature of his awakening and then I wanted to just get into what we can prove with Michael Tesarin today about what the elite believe and from his in-depth research, he's done a lot of great research, Who the global elite are, what their driving mindset is.

00:08:50.000 We know they have a kingdom of cults, a hierarchical pyramidal structure of power, but who is at the top of that pyramid, and from his unique perspective, what their agenda is.

00:09:02.000 So we're really honored to have Michael Desarian on with us for the next hour and 15 minutes.

00:09:06.000 Michael, welcome.

00:09:09.000 Oh, thanks a lot, Alex.

00:09:10.000 It's nice to be on.

00:09:10.000 Thanks for the invitation.

00:09:12.000 You bet.

00:09:12.000 It's great.

00:09:12.000 I'm a big supporter, big supporter of your work.

00:09:15.000 Followed it from the beginning and just want to offer you my, you know, total congratulations, not only on your work, but the gutsy way that you've been doing it.

00:09:23.000 And I just want to say to all your listeners out there, if we had more people like you and as gutsy as you to back up what you're talking about with action, you know, we wouldn't be in the mess in America that, you know, we are today.

00:09:35.000 Give you a lot of kudos for what you've been doing through the years, Alex.

00:09:38.000 Well, Michael, kudos to you.

00:09:41.000 For some of my audience that may not know who you are, tell us a little bit about yourself, your awakening, and then let's strike a chord in the present with what the global banking structure is doing, your point of view, your perspective on what's happening there, and then let's get into what makes the New World Order tick and what their endgame is, Michael.

00:10:02.000 Right, thanks.

00:10:03.000 My research has started pretty much in Ireland.

00:10:06.000 And by 13 years of age, I started to realize, you know, two things.

00:10:11.000 One is that we're being told nothing but a tissue of lies from the official, orthodox, fundamentalistic sort of educational system.

00:10:18.000 It just doesn't fit the facts.

00:10:20.000 Growing up in Belfast at that time was very difficult because there was a lot of violence and trouble.

00:10:25.000 But basically, I started to see through that and check out the, you know, the orange parades that happened on July.

00:10:31.000 And seeing a lot of the symbolism that was being used there, where one thing led to another, through the study of this symbolism that's being used by the Orange Order, I suddenly started to research the history of the Orange Order, discovered that it's not so much a political, you know, organization as it is a fraternal brotherhood, and then I subsequently later, you know, a few years later, started discovering that this is the same story with the IRA, particularly the Provisional IRA, and then we have the Official IRA,

00:10:57.000 And then I started to notice, by tracking through all the different symbolism and then going through the research works and the reference works, that basically what we're dealing here is a one-party system.

00:11:07.000 You know, I mean, this is in the early days, so I didn't have the whole globalist picture here, but just from my own researches in the micro, you know, microcosm of Ireland growing up there, I realized that, you know, we're not being told the truth about these organizations, and how these are connected to the super-Masonic orders, the pre-Masonic orders,

00:11:26.000 So basically around 15-16 years of age, again pretty much in an Irish context, I broadened my study to look into this whole movement of the secret societies in the world.

00:11:37.000 And this was, you know, a little bit before coming across the works of the great American scholars like the G. Edward Griffiths and the Eustace Mullins and the Jordan Maxwells and so forth and so on, you know.

00:11:48.000 I mean, I hadn't had exposure to these thinkers.

00:11:53.000 Even the Ralph Eppersons, you know, all the people who basically connect all the dots.

00:11:57.000 I had to wait till I came to America, you know, in sort of 82, and then later on in the 90s to really sort of have these teachers help put things together.

00:12:07.000 But I noticed that, you see, in America, a few people have the whole European understanding of how the British Royals, how some of the Fabian networks, how the Common Purpose, how some of the groups like the Club of the Isles,

00:12:23.000 And this connects again with high-level Freemasonry, not only Scottish Rite Freemasonry, but like I say, the Orange Order, the orders that are behind the IRA, like the Irish Republic and Brotherhood, the Ancient Order of Hibernians, the Green Ribbon Society, the Clan Magale, all from an Irish context.

00:12:39.000 My studies then continued to show me that these groups that are funded and armed to the teeth, basically what The public knows terrorist organizations operating in Ireland are far from merely Irish.

00:12:50.000 These groups are connected to the internationally free underground of the entire black hand. 0.99

00:12:55.000 Meaning the entire terrorist network.

00:12:58.000 And that's used to destabilize and frighten the public into accepting the state dominating them.

00:13:04.000 And it's even come out in mainstream news now that the IRA and the Orange, the Protestants at the highest levels, were really meeting and working together.

00:13:13.000 And that they were all basically British and international intelligence just completely staged.

00:13:18.000 On a very high level.

00:13:19.000 Again, when you point your finger in this direction, people, you know, they sort of poo-poo that they can't see that because they've been so brainwashed.

00:13:25.000 They've been so, you know, brainwashed by the media that they don't check these things out.

00:13:30.000 I'm one of only three.

00:13:31.000 There's three of us that have, you know, studied the Well, I just know it's come out all over the mainstream news and I've had a lot of the former British commandos S.A.S.

00:13:44.000 on who they would finally get to the top of the IRA and all three of the leaders were all British intelligence And then they would, you know, infiltrate the Orange and find out, you know, that the three heads of the IRA were meeting with the three heads of the Orange, and it was just a way to terrorize the public, and they used the infighting and the bombings as a pretext to basically murder and kill and oppress whoever they want.

00:14:07.000 They've done that, and by consistently, you know, this incredible fear and death toll, and the murder of innocent people in the country on both sides, I'm talking because I'm not partisan, I'm not siding with either side, I'm just looking at this thing You know, from the overview.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, that trouble made Ireland a third world country in the West.

00:14:24.000 They degraded the people. 0.99

00:14:25.000 They kept them ignorant. 1.00

00:14:26.000 They kept them stupid while they used the land. 1.00

00:14:28.000 Now, that's the old divide and conquer. 0.99

00:14:30.000 And now, groups today want you to bash the Protestants, or want you to bash the Jews, or want you to bash the Catholics, or want you to bash the Hindus, or they always want you to bash a particular group, and they always want to divide our movement into all these subgroups, and then they'll claim that I'm this group or that group, just so they can get other groups like hunting and then they'll claim that I'm this group or that group, just so they can get other groups like hunting dogs to alert on me, and I'm How many jugglers can you get in a room?

00:14:57.000 How many pit bulls can you get into a pen, you know? 0.52

00:15:00.000 This is, I saw firsthand in the Irish context, also, that these groups were connected to these higher Masonic orders, because we're not talking about the street-level stuff here that, you know, people are never going to get their mind around at all.

00:15:11.000 But anyone who studied the British system and how these clubs and these organizations, fraternal orders, are networked into these terrorist organizations, how they fund them, how they meet at the top, like you say, behind the so-called large door, that not a single one of these distinctions, not a single one of these biases that people are willing to die for in the streets. not a single one of these biases that people are You see, this is what I saw in Ireland.

00:15:31.000 Whether you're Jew or Muslim, you're Christian or not, or whether you are Protestant or Catholic, or whether you are rich or poor, or whether you are conservative or labor, you see all these divisions of people are just enmeshed in the outer world. 0.68

00:15:44.000 I started to learn that this doesn't mean a dam behind a large door.

00:15:48.000 It's a totally different agenda, and that's how my researches into deeper matters, into the whole occult symbolism that these people are using and their occult origins.

00:15:57.000 And really, it's a gang.

00:15:59.000 and And of course, most masons are well-meaning, good people that understand that the higher levels of their order have been used as a vehicle for secret intelligence agency operations is basically what's happening.

00:16:14.000 And the New World Order goes to like a wardrobe with a Catholic outfit, a Jewish outfit, a Muslim outfit, a Protestant outfit, and they just put that cloak on, and that's why it's so hard to get after them. 0.99

00:16:28.000 But we know the overriding thing they want You know, they say they're trying to get rid of government, but really they create the mega-state through which they can control the society.

00:16:37.000 And I'm very concerned about what you just said about the fact that we have to start appealing... I mean, my main message is for the complete disbandingment of all secret societies.

00:16:46.000 You know, I don't belong to any secret society, never have done.

00:16:49.000 And the message that is often recurrent through my own work is for the total illegality, the making of all these kinds of secret societies.

00:16:56.000 I don't care if it's Opus Di or Scottish Rite Freemasonry. 0.58

00:16:59.000 With the masses of the world that need to actually start integrating laws that make these groups absolutely illegal.

00:17:05.000 But more than that, in the meantime, until we do that, my message actually goes out to members, like some of these, the good folks, the good people who are, you know, the rank and file of these orders.

00:17:15.000 That's why my research has taken me into the subject of masonry and into the occultism, and I've had a lot of backlash from that, from people who don't have a clue in their heads as to why you want to maybe study this kind of subject matter.

00:17:26.000 Well, how the hell are you going to appeal to people who are, you know, Well-meaning members of these various secret societies, unless you speak in their own language, in order to try and explain to them some of the symbolism and the rites and the rituals where it comes from.

00:17:38.000 Not that some of the rites and rituals are wrong, it's just that you're doing a normal critique.

00:17:41.000 In order to relate to these people, you've got to know what they're doing.

00:17:45.000 You've got to know what... Well, Michael, I don't want to disagree with you, but anything that has the power to ban something, You know, there's a right of association.

00:17:57.000 It itself could turn into a great tyranny.

00:17:59.000 I mean, I think there should be public exposure.

00:18:01.000 There should be open discussions.

00:18:04.000 If groups are found to be involved in collusion, you know, the classic case of, you know, somebody who's committed a murder, you know, the mason in distress sign and they're let off.

00:18:12.000 That happened with a great-uncle I had.

00:18:14.000 I mean, he told us about it.

00:18:15.000 It wasn't, it was the cases in the newspaper.

00:18:17.000 But, you know, his argument was he had to go through a Masonic trial afterwards, you know, to find out if that was, you know, true or they would have, quote, dealt with him, you know, drowning him, if he would have lied.

00:18:28.000 You tell low-level Masons that, they just don't, you know, they're just not aware of the higher-level things that go on.

00:18:34.000 But, asking you a question, I mean, how do you say ban these things, you know, the engine that could ban these societies would rise up into a mighty tyranny itself?

00:18:47.000 Yeah, there's always that danger, and there's always the danger that, you know, by making them illegal, they go underground.

00:18:53.000 It's not a total win-lose solution, but what needs to happen is that the ordinary people have got to find out about the tiger and the long grass, and at least arm themselves up with even a modicum.

00:19:01.000 I mean, that's what our programs are doing.

00:19:03.000 That's what our work is doing.

00:19:04.000 And you do have to address it.

00:19:05.000 I like to address them because it's better to address them.

00:19:08.000 You know, you can address the beginners, you can address the seasoned, and you have to address the insider as well.

00:19:13.000 So my work goes a lot to the insiders.

00:19:14.000 I mean, you said it yourself a few minutes ago.

00:19:16.000 You had insiders from the Orange Lodge, insiders from the IRA, whistleblowers.

00:19:21.000 And if you look back through the whole conspiracy movement and the exposure, you'll find that the greatest damage is being done by the generals, by the insiders, by the politicians, you know, even up to the level of presidents who've come out and written memoirs.

00:19:33.000 Okay, Michael, listen, I'm going to skip this break for Infowars.com listeners.

00:19:43.000 We'll get a little behind the scenes since we got you on late.

00:19:46.000 I want to do a little bit of a pre-interview to see what you wanted to get into.

00:19:49.000 We'll discuss that now for the internet audience only.

00:19:53.000 Okay, we're on the internet now, not on the AM and FM.

00:19:55.000 We've got about three or four minutes before we're back.

00:19:57.000 Michael, I want to really give you a chance to run today.

00:20:01.000 What is it, because we didn't do a pre-interview, what is it you want to get into today?

00:20:07.000 Well, there's so much, you know.

00:20:08.000 I mean, again, my history started... I didn't know that when I came to America that I was going to be knee-deep in all of this kind of thing, you know.

00:20:14.000 But my philosophy is always to come to another country and do as the Romans do, you know. 1.00

00:20:19.000 So I wanted to learn about American history and I found out that, you know, we always know in Ireland that the Scots-Irish, you know, fought in your War of Independence.

00:20:27.000 I also found out subsequently that America is famous for losing the wars it wins. 0.98

00:20:30.000 And that, you know, the British Crown, and I'm not talking about British people here, but I'm talking about the oligarchy that's preying over them, you know, realized that it got its ass kicked in a situation of war. 0.96

00:20:41.000 It couldn't take America with force of arms. 0.97

00:20:43.000 It tried it, and it... So it did it through roundtable groups.

00:20:47.000 Exactly.

00:20:47.000 And Cecil Rhodes and these people have been my study for, you know, As long as I can remember.

00:20:52.000 And that's why I came in.

00:20:53.000 Not just studying the Fabian movements, not just studying these Masonic orders, you see, but also studying their context.

00:20:59.000 I suddenly start realizing these people are operating in America.

00:21:02.000 So my message was to get people out of the political pigsty and say, your troubles are not necessarily within the political sphere.

00:21:10.000 That's just an effect.

00:21:11.000 That's not the cause.

00:21:12.000 And then try to point out the surreptitious war of attrition that's been fought on American shores for the destruction of America.

00:21:19.000 That was the main point, you know, when I got to America, started to go into the public eye and make this be known, because as I said... And then people will say, well, then they'll say, well, Masons founded America, but that's the whole point. 0.91

00:21:30.000 Bill destroy, Bill destroy, Bill destroy, order out of chaos.

00:21:34.000 And you've got the lower orders that weren't aware.

00:21:36.000 You've also had some changes in Masonry.

00:21:38.000 And George Washington, as you know, came out and spoke out against those groups that were coming in and infiltrating it and changing it.

00:21:45.000 But really, he was just breaking through and finding out about higher levels to it.

00:21:49.000 But we have to also understand that there was the secret destiny, as you know, of the United States, where they talked about the 1600s coming here and founding this as the new Atlantis.

00:22:02.000 So there's the argument, you know, it's always dueled, yin-yang.

00:22:05.000 You're right on the ball, and it's great to talk to somebody like this who knows that before the official founding of America, these Templars and their agents were already ensconced in the country.

00:22:15.000 Yeah, they had a bad day yesterday on the 13th anniversary.

00:22:19.000 That's right.

00:22:21.000 And we have, you know, the thing that John Adams, President John Adams, President George Washington, they did start to, you know, whistle-blow what was going on.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, Adams had the anti-Masonic party that came up later.

00:22:32.000 That's right.

00:22:33.000 But they did it from being insiders first.

00:22:35.000 First they hobnobbed with Adam Weishaupt and his cronies.

00:22:40.000 They hobnobbed with the agents of people like Charles D. Lorraine, you know, from the province of Lorraine in France and the Grand Orient Freemasonry of France.

00:22:47.000 And then they start to realize, wait a minute, this is a bunch of Luciferianism here, it's not right for America.

00:22:51.000 And they sounded the warning, you know?

00:22:53.000 In a modern context, though, these people who are working for the old British system, you know, who operate, people gotta realize that these people have worked through the Russell Trust, they've worked through the Scalabones, they've worked through the Knights of Columbus, they've worked through Scottish Rite Freemasonry, they're alive and well in the American context to take America down because it was too big to take down with a gun to the head situation.

00:23:12.000 You know, that kind of thing, that jackboot system does work in a small... Okay, we'll get into that.

00:23:17.000 I also want to get into the hierarchy of the New World Order and the power structure, kind of a historical overview, because I know you're very well informed and I want your unique perspective on that as well.

00:23:29.000 Okay, so we'll talk about the secret history of the United States and the war with these forces.

00:23:34.000 We'll talk about who the Globalists are, what their master plan is.

00:23:37.000 What's some of the other things you want to get into briefly?

00:23:40.000 Oh, that's good to go with.

00:23:41.000 We've got an hour, so that's great.

00:23:42.000 We also want to get into maybe the technology aspect.

00:23:46.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:23:48.000 We've got an hour and forty minutes, Michael.

00:23:51.000 Okay, but you're good for an hour and forty, right?

00:23:55.000 And the whole technological war.

00:23:57.000 Alright, here we go.

00:23:58.000 Here we go.

00:24:00.000 We're going to go over the basic View from Michael Tesarian of British Secret Society Networks using Freemasonry as one vehicle because of its secrecy.

00:24:16.000 They can inhabit any group.

00:24:19.000 And then the secret symbolism, the language that's all around us that they communicate through.

00:24:23.000 Again, the low-level Masons aren't even part of it. 0.97

00:24:25.000 And there are other religious groups and secret groups.

00:24:28.000 You know, Masons oversimplifies it.

00:24:30.000 Then we'll get into what the endgame is and the Well, that was, you know, when I got over to States, then I had to basically brush up.

00:24:39.000 control grid.

00:24:40.000 We've got an hour and 35 minutes left with our guest.

00:24:42.000 Okay, Michael, you got the floor.

00:24:44.000 Start rolling.

00:24:44.000 Well, that was, you know, when I got over the stage, then I had to basically brush up.

00:24:49.000 And that's when I bumped into the work of Nord Davis and especially Ralph Epperson, you know, who's just great.

00:24:55.000 His work put a lot of pieces together for me.

00:24:57.000 And then, of course, the great G. Edward Griffin and Eustace Mullins, you know, it became like a study.

00:25:02.000 Because when I realized that the average American doesn't know anything about this, yeah, I'd bump into the average, you know, I'd bump into occasionally to a Vietnam vet.

00:25:10.000 Who had been through so much hell, through the VA hospitals, that these guys knew, you know, something about what was going on, especially about the federal system and the Federal Reserve and so on.

00:25:20.000 And so, my education began in the 90s, you know, to sort of brush up on, okay, I've seen it in an Irish context, I've seen that one picture of tyranny, but how does this work in the American context, you know?

00:25:31.000 So, as I started to study more and got into the Webster, Tarpley's, you see, and even the Dr. John Coleman's It was a long discovery to find out that this country didn't really win the War of Independence because they let their guard down, they became so apathetic, they became so decadent and narcissistic that it was easy pickings right from the time of the first presidents basically for this federalistic group to insinuate itself into the body politic of America through the federal systems

00:25:59.000 To get rid of the Republic, to change the Constitution, to amend it, and so forth and so on, all the stuff that you've covered yourself, and so many things.

00:26:07.000 You know, this was my education to find out, but my main point was, though, is more of a historian aspect to say, look, never forget that America is just the last in line to be taken down.

00:26:19.000 The people who are doing this have colonized and colonized the world.

00:26:24.000 They've been doing it for centuries of time, and my research has led it back to Egypt, You know, first of all, I had studied the ancient Irish myths.

00:26:32.000 That helped me, you know, with my first book on Atlantis, to get into a lot of areas there to show just how ancient this actual, you know, oligarchy is, that they keep bloodlines.

00:26:41.000 And these bloodlines are still today, and the politicians that pop their heads up every, you know, every four years, there they are again with their bloodline connections back to the ancient royal oligarchs of Europe.

00:26:51.000 But then what happened is I got more and more, you know, into it after the first book was done.

00:26:57.000 Then I started to really look at the Egyptian roots of this, and my research took me to a group that I refer to as the Atenists.

00:27:04.000 It's the same group of, you know, people would refer to, say, by the terms such as Luciferian or whatever.

00:27:11.000 You know, my term for it is Atenists. 1.00

00:27:12.000 This is going back to the 14th Dynasty, the 18th Dynasty of Europe.

00:27:19.000 18th Dynasty of Egypt, about 1400 years BC, is where it all began.

00:27:24.000 So I've actually traced it back to the reign of the pharaoh Akhenaten.

00:27:28.000 Well just to be clear, when you read mainline, even British history, they say they're related to the pharaohs.

00:27:34.000 They say they are related to Moses, and the queen is coronated on Jacob's stone, and all of this.

00:27:43.000 And so they really believe this.

00:27:45.000 And worldwide, international royalty, even in Japan, says that the greatest queen is the royalty in England and that they all claim they're part of that and are part of the same secret societies there.

00:27:58.000 So regardless of whether it's true or not, they do claim lineage to the pharaohs.

00:28:03.000 You're absolutely spot-on and you see it doesn't have to be necessarily just bloodline for a certain amount of the top boys.

00:28:09.000 It is a bloodline connection for everybody else that serves this monster.

00:28:13.000 It's an ideological connection.

00:28:17.000 Equally Equally as bad, equally as pernicious.

00:28:19.000 These are not people who serve the good of the human race, or for the uplift of the human race.

00:28:23.000 These are ancient pharaohs who have kept bloodline dynasties, and people better believe that they have not gone away.

00:28:29.000 The different houses of Europe that I address, you see, and the symbolism that they use.

00:28:34.000 So as I start to track this back, it starts to explain these things about, like you say, the symbolism behind the coronation, and all the various other symbolism and regalia that we see throughout all of Europe, as well as Britain.

00:28:46.000 And it was fascinating to see that, you know, how it all went back to this particular individual and his sort of megalomania, this Akhenaten, and his basically solar cult.

00:28:55.000 These were worshippers of the sun.

00:28:57.000 They were worshippers of what I refer to as the dark side of the sun.

00:29:00.000 And, you know, their generation, they were expurged finally from Egypt.

00:29:04.000 They had basically committed so much desecration on the land of Egypt that finally, you know, in the reign of Akhenaten, the people of Egypt rose up and basically exiled these guys. 0.63

00:29:15.000 All right, stay there.

00:29:16.000 Stay there.

00:29:16.000 We'll be back in three minutes.

00:29:17.000 Michael Desari and stay with me.

00:29:18.000 We're on the march.

00:29:19.000 from a biblical point of view, as you said, through the Moses story, or you're coming at it through alternative historical approaches, basically they're meant to have fallen off the map, and history pays them no more mind.

00:29:28.000 My work picks up on the fact that after they were exiled, after this famous exodus, they did not fade away, and that these people are instrumental behind the powers in Greece.

00:29:37.000 All right, stay there.

00:29:38.000 Stay there.

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00:29:40.000 Michael Desarion, stay with me.

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00:32:50.000 Michael Desarion, before we go any further, before we go any further, give out your website for listeners that want to check it out. .

00:33:16.000 Well, it's michaeltesarian.com and the new DVD on technologyarchitectsofcontrol.com.

00:33:24.000 Yeah, I was checking out the trailer for that.

00:33:26.000 It looks really powerful.

00:33:27.000 Tesarian is T-S-A-R-I-O-N.

00:33:31.000 So micheltesarian.com.

00:33:35.000 Now again, I don't know if the Queen of England is really related to Moses.

00:33:41.000 I don't know if she's really related to the Egyptian pharaohs, B.C.

00:33:46.000 I don't know if the Sun King of France, you know, was really related to Jesus' family.

00:33:54.000 The point is, they believe they are.

00:33:56.000 They take it deadly serious.

00:33:57.000 And I've been inside Bohemian Grove.

00:33:59.000 People say, oh, that's just a play.

00:34:01.000 You know, a mock human sacrifice.

00:34:03.000 Regardless of what it is, those old men that I was with in that crowd of about 1,500 watching the ritual, they were in religious rapture.

00:34:11.000 They were grinding their teeth.

00:34:12.000 They were breathing heavy.

00:34:15.000 Whatever the real ritual was, was over behind some black curtains from the trees across the water before they brought the baby, the small child, the effigy over to burn it before Lilith.

00:34:28.000 These occultists use different names.

00:34:30.000 They call it Moloch.

00:34:31.000 I know that's the bull, but they call their owl Moloch.

00:34:35.000 They address it as a female, and then as a male deity.

00:34:39.000 It's all on video in my film, The Order of Death, and then we had somebody else sneak in, who they then set up and sent to prison.

00:34:47.000 Chris Jones, no relation to me.

00:34:49.000 So this is really going on.

00:34:50.000 They really believe this, whether it's true or not.

00:34:54.000 I know you, from your deep research in Europe and around the world, believe that there is some basis in fact in it.

00:34:59.000 So let's continue on, Michael.

00:35:02.000 Well, that's right.

00:35:03.000 Again, as far as I'm concerned, they believe it in their own heads.

00:35:07.000 They're not only bloodline connection, they have the ideological henchmen who have sworn allegiance.

00:35:13.000 For one reason or another, the basic fact is that my researchers did discover this connection to Egypt, not only there, but the basic origin of the Knights Templar, the Order of Sion, just the very Judaic phrases Which actually, you're more correctly to say, Egyptian atmospheric phrases.

00:35:32.000 Well, let me stop you right there.

00:35:34.000 I mean, that's an absolute fact, and that's not even hidden.

00:35:37.000 That in, you know, basic Masonic literature and basic magic literature, white and black, It's all about the keys of Solomon, Solomon's ring, the seal of Solomon.

00:35:49.000 It's all about controlling these djinn, these entities, these angels.

00:35:53.000 And Solomon was open about it.

00:35:54.000 It was the secret of Egypt, and the secrets of Greece, and the secrets of Babylon, and the secrets of all of these countries.

00:36:02.000 And people then say, Well, the whole New World Order is Judaic.

00:36:06.000 No, it was the Jews that codified it, and who were big on writing things down. 0.80

00:36:11.000 And so when Alexandria got destroyed in Egypt, and when Rome got destroyed in its libraries, it was the Judaics who carried on the mystery schools. 0.99

00:36:19.000 Right.

00:36:19.000 Within that, not ordinary Jews, but this elite group.

00:36:23.000 The Levites. 0.78

00:36:24.000 The Levitical level.

00:36:25.000 We're talking about the Kabbalistic, Levitical, Mosaic, and also what's called the Gaionim.

00:36:30.000 This is a word that people have got to become familiar with.

00:36:33.000 Because it explains the capital G that the masons use. 0.79

00:36:36.000 You know, people want to pick up my Irish Origins of Civilization double volume.

00:36:40.000 They're going to find chapter after chapter, they're showing this connection between the Judaic elites and the ancient pharaonics and then how that percolates down into modern times through this occult, you know, bloodline, dragon court thread that people really need to be understanding about so they can not only decode the symbolism, but they can find out the roots of this tyranny because we're here in the effects of the tyranny But we need to know its origins as well.

00:37:04.000 And the most amazing thing is that these guys mean business.

00:37:07.000 They lost an empire in the past.

00:37:10.000 And they subsequently experienced an old world disorder.

00:37:14.000 And so everything that's being built now, students of the new world order need to realize it's because they're trying to build a new world order to replace an old world order.

00:37:22.000 And that's why their symbol is the pyramid of the all-seeing eye, which is the black sunshine.

00:37:28.000 Exactly.

00:37:28.000 These people do worship the dark side of the sun.

00:37:30.000 They can rightly be referred... Christians refer to them as Luciferians, and it's perfectly adequate. 1.00

00:37:36.000 And that's what the Nazis' secret highest was, the black sun. 0.90

00:37:41.000 And people say, how could the Zionists and the Nazis worship the same thing?

00:37:45.000 Because it doesn't matter.

00:37:46.000 All these people at the top worship the same deal.

00:37:50.000 How can it be that the same order of the Knights of Malta, the sovereign order of the Knights of Malta, can have members as extreme right?

00:37:58.000 As Von Papen, and as Herman Goering, and then five minutes later, be initiating into their order, people on the left as Nelson Mandela.

00:38:05.000 I got a question for people as to why that would be.

00:38:08.000 They got to realize that behind the large doors, we said earlier, none of these distinctions on the street level mean a dam.

00:38:13.000 This is an entire, you know, carnival, a dance macabre for people to get caught up in.

00:38:18.000 You know, it just has no reality, and this is what people need to understand.

00:38:21.000 If they study the symbolism long enough, if they track it through, and I've done like 30 years of research on this, so You know, this is the age in which this information is now finally coming to light.

00:38:31.000 These guys, not only do they fully believe it in their own minds, some of these kings and queens, like Louis XVI of France, and various other potentates have designed entire cities!

00:38:41.000 Based on Egyptian symbolism, to prove that they believe themselves as the Newborn Sun Kings and Sun Pharaohs.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, that was the Sun King, and called himself the Sun King.

00:38:48.000 And then we had Francois Mitterrand admitting that he was channeling Lucifer and going on mountaintops to pray.

00:38:54.000 Then they had the Japanese architect build a pyramid with 666 pieces of this gold-pink glass, and it has a black pyramid inside.

00:39:06.000 I mean, this is all right out in the open.

00:39:10.000 I never stop stressing, you see.

00:39:10.000 That's right.

00:39:12.000 I mean, even though I've written a lot on Ireland, you know, the second book in the volume is dedicated to Egypt to show exactly that it came from a specific time, from a specific individual, a specific cult, a specific warped version of solar cultism, you see, and how this continues alive.

00:39:29.000 That is why there are so many obelisks in Rome and in Vatican City.

00:39:33.000 That's why Rome has certain, you know, geomantic alignments that it does.

00:39:37.000 Same thing applies to Washington, D.C.

00:39:39.000 Same thing applies to Cologne, to Paris.

00:39:41.000 They believe that they call in spiritual forces from another dimension.

00:39:46.000 Now, again, whether you believe this or not, folks, the elite believe it.

00:39:48.000 Explain the sacred architecture.

00:39:52.000 Well, that's right.

00:39:53.000 And within masonry, if you look at the highest degrees of masonry, they have that Judaic aspect that you were talking about. 0.90

00:39:58.000 Knights of the Kadosh. 0.92

00:40:00.000 Knights of the, you know, the secret. 0.86

00:40:02.000 You know, all of these weird terminologies they've got right there.

00:40:05.000 People can see this in the design of the cities.

00:40:08.000 They can, you know, I have a huge collection of Masonic literature, so we're not making anything up.

00:40:12.000 This is from the horse's mouth.

00:40:13.000 You only need to go to the Albert Mackey's and to the actual Masonic encyclopedias.

00:40:17.000 This is not hard to do, even though it takes a lot of time.

00:40:20.000 But if people spend the time, you know, see, to peruse our works.

00:40:23.000 And we put the stuff on DVD, we put it in books, so it's there for people who don't have the time to do all this research, to find out that America is not free.

00:40:30.000 America has been colonized by the, you know, the royals and the pharaohs of old, and America was ostensibly meant to be the last bastion against these oligarchs, these imperialists.

00:40:40.000 What the people need to understand, in an America context particularly, is that the imperialism is not gone away.

00:40:47.000 The stuff that you're seeing now with, you know, the Amaro coming in, and the NAFTA, and the CAFTA, and the destruction of the American Constitution, This is a form of imperialism that has been insinuating... And take Ireland.

00:40:56.000 Ireland says no to the Lisbon Treaty, EU expansion, and then they say, we don't care, we're going to bring it back up for another vote, or implement it by fiat.

00:41:04.000 It's exactly the same way, you know, it's a mafioso situation.

00:41:08.000 They'll never, this kind of...

00:41:10.000 Vampire never goes away until it's invited across the globe.

00:41:12.000 And going back to Egypt, we see it in the Old Testament and in the New, over and over again the Pharaoh would send out to the different slave groups he had and would kill a large portion of their children to keep the slaves at a lower population.

00:41:28.000 You see the CPS today going out and kidnapping the children.

00:41:31.000 It's all repeated and they figured out thousands of years ago, thousands of years B.C., how to control societies.

00:41:40.000 And I want to highlight something you just said a few minutes ago about the kind of dark forces that they're in league with.

00:41:45.000 Those dark... You know, again, if people don't understand it, that's too bad.

00:41:49.000 But the fact is, these people do not act in just a material sphere of, you know, of influence.

00:41:54.000 They are very much tied into something off-world.

00:41:56.000 They're tied into other dark, angelic forces.

00:42:00.000 And they have to offer up sacrifices on this planet to those beings that they're in league with.

00:42:05.000 And that is what, in my view, is, you know, pretty much a lot of the child abduction The wars, the world wars that we've experienced, and just the general appetite, or not the appetite, but the general, every day, the toxic, you know...

00:42:20.000 Influx of trauma across the TV, you see, and in our world in general.

00:42:23.000 They need anxiety, they want to keep people, you know, crippled and... They are changing our neural pathways, showing us millions of simulated murders on TV, traumatizing us, where they now have university studies with the brainwaves, where the area of the brain associated with pleasure, even in quote, quote, mainstream people, is lighting up when they see simulated murders, torture, death.

00:42:44.000 They are turning us psychically into them.

00:42:47.000 I couldn't agree more, Alex, and you know, it's a situation of the normal, lower-level sadomasochism that people have multiplied infinitely.

00:42:56.000 This constant appeal to the limbic and mammalian centers of the brain, you know, and it's a diet, and a diet until you get so used to it that you don't even know what reason is anymore.

00:43:05.000 You can't critically look at anything.

00:43:07.000 You have an immediate defense mechanism as soon as they, you know, it's like most of these people that today you have the Internet riddled with Internet assassins and debunkers, so-called, quote-unquote, And these are people that I describe like the deer in the headlights of the oncoming truth movement who cannot stand that oncoming juggernaut of truth.

00:43:24.000 And that's the next issue, is the enemy knows throughout history the human spirit rebels, goodness, the light literally blots out their black sunshine as they call it.

00:43:35.000 And so they're doing everything they can with chemicals and microwaves and frequency pollution and radiation openly, and they write all this in their own documents that we've covered, and we cover in Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, to pollute our minds with the images, the toxins, all of it overlaid, you know, the brainwashing of the television, both semantically and with the frequency of it, to try to blind us.

00:43:57.000 And I've seen them go from arrogant to now being fearful.

00:44:00.000 What are they so afraid of, Michael?

00:44:03.000 Well, they're always afraid of the human race because this is the serf, you know, that they've been able to enslave. 0.98

00:44:08.000 And of course, the big fear is that that, you know, that particular indentured servant, slave, might in fact wake up and throw away, you know, all of the junk that, you know, basically an age of awakening is what they're fearful of.

00:44:21.000 Anyone who has control that's surreptitious, anyone who has a catalog of criminality like they have, these are super criminals, mega criminals, the genocides, the colonializations, the war on consciousness, You know, all the devastation they've wreaked, of course these are criminals who don't want, you know, to be discovered or the light to be shone on them.

00:44:39.000 I've often said in my work that, hey, These guys say that they're worshippers of the sun.

00:44:43.000 They claim to worship light.

00:44:44.000 Well, what happened to them?

00:44:45.000 Let's see the effects on them when we turn the light of truth and knowledge onto them.

00:44:49.000 See how they like it.

00:44:50.000 Well, Revelation says they traffic in the souls of men.

00:44:55.000 That's really what's valuable to them, is blinders, shutting people down, darkness, destruction.

00:45:00.000 Look at the artwork the elite buys.

00:45:02.000 Buckets of maggots, images of dead babies.

00:45:05.000 I mean, this is the most popular art across the board worldwide with the elites.

00:45:09.000 You know, 100 million pounds, sometimes 200 million dollars for one piece of blasphemous art.

00:45:15.000 And they say, we're buying this art to worship it, to adulate it, to give it the support it deserves.

00:45:22.000 So, what is their master plan?

00:45:23.000 If they were to win, what is the world they're trying to set up?

00:45:27.000 Let's get into the technological enslavement. 0.98

00:45:30.000 They're not trying to set it up, they've already been doing it.

00:45:32.000 As I said before, this imperialist movement of this juggernaut, we're only seeing the latter days of something that has been a continuous, ongoing, incremental movement, you know, down through history.

00:45:44.000 Americans tend to, you know, not see that.

00:45:45.000 They don't see, you know, the whole movement of... Well, Michael, I see it.

00:45:49.000 I'm talking about their endgame.

00:45:50.000 They're gearing up for something big.

00:45:53.000 Well, I believe it's basically... This ties into my work on 2012 and what's coming there.

00:45:58.000 It's a sort of a zero hour.

00:46:00.000 This is the death of anything human.

00:46:02.000 It doesn't mean the death of the planet.

00:46:04.000 It doesn't mean, you know, the end of nature.

00:46:07.000 It doesn't even necessarily mean the end of the world.

00:46:10.000 What it means is that the end, and by God, anyone with their eyes open can see it's already taken place, it's a countdown to the extinction.

00:46:17.000 Of what we would use when we say the word human.

00:46:20.000 What we will have after 2012, 2015, you see, is a post-human world.

00:46:25.000 They're racing headlong, you've dealt with it, and then... And all their futurists, all their futurists, they are saying that they will have it by 2012 to 2020, if it's Kurzweil.

00:46:36.000 You're right, they are incrementally now, but accelerating it, turning all the systems on.

00:46:42.000 Well, remember, what they're going to turn on happens 2012 and post.

00:46:47.000 Before you can turn something on, you gotta end, or bring to an end, that which was before.

00:46:52.000 So all the idioms, all the customs, the traditions, that all the people of the world, especially of the western world, because the western world is now, as you see, being turned into a third world country, and the third world's rising to be a first world.

00:47:02.000 What we're heading towards right now is basically a post-human dystopia, in which man is either so reduced to a robotic level, That he runs even more headlong into the pharmaceutical thing, the drug, and to escape himself, or it will literally be some sort of Blade Runner dystopia in which you are literally, you know, going to be vaccinated in a way that would change your, you know, being, or mess with our DNA.

00:47:26.000 And by the way, 20 years ago they had live viruses and now they're advertising them that go in and create lobotomies in key areas of the brain.

00:47:35.000 The viruses attack specific brain tissues to literally create mindless, gibbering automatons, and all of them say this is the plan, and DARPA says this is the plan.

00:47:47.000 And as horrible as this sounds, they need to do this, and they want to exterminate at least 90% of us and have 10% suboid, subhuman slave creatures that serve them. 1.00

00:47:58.000 Well, I believe if you also bring in the whole concept of the GMOs, you start to discover that the hoarding of the actual organic seeds that nature has produced, They're siloing this.

00:48:09.000 They're archiving it.

00:48:10.000 Doomsday Vaults.

00:48:12.000 What's that?

00:48:13.000 They've created Doomsday Vaults, the Rockefellers and the UN have, because they're going to infect everything. 0.94

00:48:19.000 Right, exactly.

00:48:20.000 My vision is that they may, in fact, unleash some sort of worldwide plague on the plant life, on the flora.

00:48:27.000 And then this creates us to either be interned underground or in some sort of silo or dome situation.

00:48:33.000 In which only the privileged are given the right kind of food, etc., etc., and that person has to be totally conformist.

00:48:39.000 They either wipe out everybody else... No, that, I mean, let me stop you, Michael.

00:48:42.000 This is the stated reverse-engineered plan.

00:48:44.000 They state, you know, that they have black op wars, they have drug wars to build up the police, and they stage terror to expand the criminal control grid.

00:48:52.000 Then they have smaller controlled bioweapon releases to get us into compact cities.

00:48:56.000 Then they start the real mass exterminations.

00:48:59.000 That is the stated plan.

00:49:02.000 I agree with you there.

00:49:03.000 I absolutely have come to the same conclusions in my own work, that something along these lines is... People are hearing us now thinking we're talking sci-fi.

00:49:10.000 This is already happening.

00:49:12.000 The Monsanto and the GMO is all behind us.

00:49:15.000 There's something going on.

00:49:16.000 And it ties back to what we said about the inability to be able to control masses of people through the gun-to-the-head system.

00:49:22.000 That has been tried.

00:49:23.000 It doesn't work.

00:49:24.000 The next kind of colonialism that we're going to experience, the next kind of imperialism, is going to be a genetic one.

00:49:29.000 You know, we deal with this in the Architects of Control DVD.

00:49:33.000 That DVD covers a lot of ground, actually.

00:49:35.000 And it also goes into the psychological question of why people lend themselves to this kind of submission.

00:49:40.000 I don't know if we have time to talk about it.

00:49:41.000 No, no, we will.

00:49:42.000 We have plenty of time.

00:49:43.000 We're going to have you back soon.

00:49:44.000 We have a whole other hour and ten minutes coming up.

00:49:46.000 But the point you're making, Monsanto said in 99, in a public speech, it was in major papers, that they plan to infect everything So that then no one has a choice.

00:49:56.000 They admit that this is meant to take over the entire biosphere, and with the Terminator genes and others, end the regular life cycle.

00:50:03.000 The carbon tax is meant to be a tax on humans, to literally say that humans are bad, with this new guild of millions per country of environmental enforcers, one-child policy, all of this.

00:50:16.000 I mean, I don't think the public understands.

00:50:18.000 Hitler, Stalin, Mao, that was only warm-up for what they're getting ready to do. 0.69

00:50:23.000 Well, that's my main point.

00:50:24.000 It's warm-up.

00:50:25.000 What we're seeing now is just the preliminary tip of the iceberg.

00:50:28.000 You know?

00:50:29.000 Now, this, uh... The Architects of Control DVD is actually dedicated to Jim Keith, and to also Ezra Pound, and these are two people that have a big impact on me, because Jim Keith was always looking, and I know you do as well, at this whole technological leviathan, which is one of the greatest clubs in the hands of the elite.

00:50:46.000 Stay there, stay there, Michael Tesarian.

00:50:48.000 We're gonna talk behind the scenes as well now.

00:50:52.000 Okay, Michael, just to be clear, because you talked about only having an hour, you know you're on with us for a whole other hour, correct?

00:50:57.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:50:58.000 Okay, good.

00:50:59.000 We're on the internet right now, we can skip this break right now, but I don't want to get into any of the main subject you're going to be covering, because I want to share all this with everybody out there on the AM and FM shortwave satellite and the rest of it.

00:51:14.000 And I keep jumping in because I just want to back up everything you're saying.

00:51:18.000 I think we need to reach out, like you said 40 minutes ago, to the minions of this, the mid-level servants, who believe the utopia they're being sold.

00:51:26.000 Most of them, I don't think, understand they're not going to be part of this.

00:51:29.000 But then on the other side, you have the nihilistic scientists, who I notice are clustered all around bioweapons labs and biology departments, like Eric Pionka.

00:51:38.000 And the issue is, he says, kill 90% of us now.

00:51:40.000 They're born Ebola. 0.99

00:51:41.000 He can't wait for his own family to die.

00:51:44.000 And we even got the FBI to go out and talk to him.

00:51:46.000 The point is, he gets a 95% standing ovation with the scientists crying when he talks about how everyone's going to be killed.

00:51:53.000 And then his graduate students send me threatening letters saying, look, he's not extreme. 0.73

00:51:57.000 Most of us believe everyone should be killed.

00:51:59.000 And you Google the person's name and there they are in a white lab coat working at a bioweapons lab. 0.66

00:52:04.000 The point is, when they make a movie like Thirteen Monkeys, they're not playing games, folks.

00:52:10.000 Just like we told you about the economic stuff that was going to happen.

00:52:12.000 Just like I told you about government-sponsored terrorism that was coming and then it happened.

00:52:16.000 Believe me, all we're doing is opening up the TV Guide and telling you what the enemy says they're going to do.

00:52:22.000 This is in white papers, this is in UN Biological Diversity Assessments.

00:52:26.000 This is the stated operation.

00:52:29.000 So when we come back, I want to get into that.

00:52:31.000 But just briefly, behind the scenes, They're not all-powerful, they're not invincible, just like in the fake French Revolution, the Illuminati Revolution, they tried to go to a 10-day work week, they tried to change the calendar, change the clocks, they tried to destroy everything that had previously been there and remake it, but that failed.

00:52:51.000 And I know they now have high-tech systems, but I don't see them, I don't see their program being on schedule, Michael.

00:52:58.000 Well, of course, that's what happened in 2000.

00:53:00.000 Everyone thought they were going to cap the pyramid.

00:53:02.000 You know, it was all going to happen then.

00:53:04.000 And, you know, they have delays.

00:53:05.000 They even have dynastic rivalries.

00:53:07.000 They've got... When you're building a New World Order, you know, you have to also feed the dogs.

00:53:11.000 What's been happening in the last 10 years, especially even with Iraq and Iran, and what they're wanting to do is... This doesn't... These kinds of territorial urges and the fight for oil does not bother the people who are orchestrating this at the top of the pyramid.

00:53:24.000 That's just the stuff for the oily rags, the sort of sub-level dynastic concerns, you know, the Cheneys, the Bushes, the people like that, the Margaret Thatchers. 0.93

00:53:31.000 Them and their family need to be paid off.

00:53:33.000 So what you're seeing in the last 10 years since the new millennium begun is the feeding of the monkey.

00:53:38.000 You've got to feed the... Well, also, it's important to demonize America and have all of this heaped on us to discredit free market capitalism, which it isn't.

00:53:49.000 So we have to be made the bad guys so the new monopolar New World Order can rise up out of Europe.

00:53:55.000 Here we go.

00:53:56.000 Thank you.

00:54:03.000 Michael Desarion is our guest.

00:54:04.000 MichaelDesarian.com's website.

00:54:06.000 Link up on InfoWars.com right now.

00:54:11.000 It's hard to believe, but in my film, Endgame, we only show you the tip of the iceberg.

00:54:15.000 About who these global controllers are.

00:54:17.000 I mean, how do you get scientists in the U.S.

00:54:19.000 and Russia and everywhere to go nerve gas little children or test radiation on children and kill them or test it on troops?

00:54:26.000 That isn't about testing the nerve gas.

00:54:27.000 They know it'll kill a person or the radiation.

00:54:29.000 It's about creating cadres of scientists who will buy into this and who enjoy exercising the psychopathic power to create larger cadres of subunits to serve the New World Order going into the mass extermination.

00:54:43.000 And I want you to know, they're going to claim Al Qaeda did it, or claim it came out of a lab, but when you and your family are dying, especially you police out there, you can at least, you know, realize that for those that survive, that the New World Order is real, and that this really happened, and that we really warned you. 0.54

00:54:56.000 We were talking during the break about them not capping the pyramid in 2000.

00:55:00.000 As they were openly worshipping what they called anti-beast, or anemon, and you were just talking about that. 0.94

00:55:07.000 It was on worldwide TV, fake fire shooting out of the ground, fireworks, huge horned demons marching on movie screens at the Giza Plateau, worldwide occultism, PBS carried it, open Lucifer worship on TV, and it was like I would mention it to people and no one even seemed to care.

00:55:27.000 Michael DeSarian?

00:55:29.000 Well, exactly right.

00:55:30.000 And people have to realize that these guys, on the highest level, you see, they operate based on an old, stellar form of timing, based on ancient zodiacs.

00:55:38.000 The whole concept of that when you do something, the timing has to be right.

00:55:42.000 This I discovered in the context of Ireland when I was studying things like the, you know, the various battles.

00:55:48.000 I mean, the very fact that the Orange Parade happens, you know, very close to midsummer, the midsummer solstice, just like your bohemian Uh, Grove Investigation pointed out that the dates are very important.

00:55:58.000 The midsummer, the summer solstice.

00:56:00.000 We have the same issue happening in Northern Ireland, where the 12th of July parades are scheduled for the movement of the sun, you know, to the mid, to the center point there.

00:56:09.000 Uh, the, uh, Black Perceptory, which is a very secret order behind the Orange Lodge, they have their ceremonies on July 13th. 0.89

00:56:16.000 This ritualistic element is very, very important.

00:56:19.000 People will notice that the declarations of war, whether it's March 17th, the Feast of Purim, You see, or any other date that comes about.

00:56:26.000 It's not random.

00:56:27.000 It is not done by accident.

00:56:29.000 And so the openings of this, the closings of that, the signing of the Eurodollar, you know, all the things that the MEPs do, or the people who control them do, is done based on ancient solar and stellar and lunar zodiacs.

00:56:41.000 People have to understand this.

00:56:42.000 It's based on ancient Masonic timings.

00:56:44.000 You know, we've got to understand... And by the way, that comes out in mainstream media, that, oh, Tony Blair every morning is possessed by the spirit of the light, he falls on the ground and convulses, he goes to the four corners of the earth to do weird rituals, oh, and Ronald Reagan, everything he does is according to the astrology, and, you know, this all comes out.

00:57:03.000 Exactly, and that's the reason why my life took me into those areas, to study these secret societies quite intimately, to definitely get into these occult areas, to find out what it is that they're up to, What are they doing?

00:57:13.000 And then basically to pull back from the canvas and discover, my God, this is a worldwide ritual that involves many, many tentacles.

00:57:20.000 But getting back to the point about this whole technotronic age, you know, as I said, my work is dedicated to Jim Keith, and I want people to remember his name because he's one of the greatest American researchers you could imagine.

00:57:29.000 Do you believe he was murdered?

00:57:32.000 Absolutely, no doubt in my mind.

00:57:33.000 And the people closest to him also speculate upon that.

00:57:35.000 Well, then his publisher died mysteriously right after he did.

00:57:40.000 Yes, exactly.

00:57:40.000 And another friend of his, a co-researcher, was also mysteriously killed.

00:57:45.000 So there's no doubt in my mind that they either, you know, they took this guy out because he was so special.

00:57:48.000 He had the ability and the charm to reach many, many people.

00:57:51.000 Well, he also got wide-spectrum analysis.

00:57:54.000 Yeah.

00:57:54.000 I mean, he really got the big picture.

00:57:57.000 Well, remember, these guys were tied up.

00:57:59.000 Jim had investigated Scientology and did a runner from it because he knew, my God, what the hell is going on here.

00:58:04.000 And then tried to whistle-blow that, and from there, you know, went on to, like I did in my own way, To, you know, branch out and to find out about the world, the great global conspiracy.

00:58:13.000 And his work is fundamental.

00:58:15.000 His book, Mass Control, you know, is an essential part of the DVD we're doing right now, but to release next month, or very shortly.

00:58:23.000 And this goes into his work.

00:58:24.000 It's dedicated to his work.

00:58:25.000 And people have got to understand... All right, stay there.

00:58:26.000 We're going to break for one minute.

00:58:28.000 Come back with the next hour.

00:58:29.000 Michael Dasarian getting into this.

00:58:33.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:58:35.000 Alright, let me go ahead and talk to him now.

00:58:36.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

00:58:38.000 And from there, you know, went on to, like I did in my own way, to, you know, branch out and to find out about the world, the great global conspiracy.

00:58:46.000 And his work is fundamental.

00:58:47.000 His book, Mass Control, you know, is an essential part of the DVD we're doing right now, about to release next month, or very shortly.

00:58:55.000 And this goes into his work, it's dedicated to his work, and people have got to understand... Alright, stay there.

00:58:59.000 We're going to break for one minute.

00:59:00.000 Come back with the next hour.

00:59:01.000 Michael Lassarian getting into this.

00:59:06.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

00:59:08.000 Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.

00:59:14.000 It is a big idea.

00:59:15.000 A new world order.

00:59:18.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

00:59:22.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

00:59:26.000 Could their objective be world domination?

00:59:29.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

00:59:32.000 Now as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. 0.97

00:59:42.000 For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.

00:59:47.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

00:59:51.000 My websites are Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:00:01.000 InfoWars.net, PrisonPlanet.tv, JonesReport.com, TruthNews.us are some of the alternate auxiliary sites.

01:00:08.000 They have some exclusive news that's only on those sites.

01:00:11.000 But the big main sites that are updated three or four times a day are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

01:00:18.000 Michael, I want to get into a little bit of positive news first, then I want to get into the technological control grid, the enslavement grid, what your new film's about, that was the bad news, but knowing the enemy is at the battle.

01:00:30.000 But you talk and speak a lot about the exponential awakening, and listen, I tend to Underestimate how many people I reach individually, and I'm just one, you know, little outpost in all of this.

01:00:42.000 I don't over-gauge myself, but really, it doesn't matter any guest I call up now, some engineer, or Chuck Norris, or, you know, some politician, or somebody in another country, or I go to foreign countries, people all over the street come up to me now.

01:00:57.000 You know, I go to Honduras, or I go to England, or I go to Germany, or I go to, you know, some other part of the world, I'm one little guy in all this.

01:01:08.000 Take Austin, my center of operations.

01:01:10.000 It's now where I'll be at the gym and 80% of the people in there come up and aren't just coming up saying hi, they're waking up, they're listening.

01:01:18.000 And so I see with my own life an exponential explosion Well, I agree with that totally, otherwise I wouldn't be doing my work.

01:01:25.000 meets the eye or the mainstream media service.

01:01:27.000 And so it's exponential.

01:01:29.000 So I see these two things, the global enslavement grid, coming head-to-head with a mass human awakening.

01:01:36.000 Your comments on that?

01:01:37.000 Well, I agree with that totally.

01:01:39.000 Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing my work.

01:01:41.000 It is one of the things I also, everything you said is true for me as well, wherever I go, the enormous amount of emails and feedback that I get.

01:01:48.000 And even the negative reaction, at least that shows me that this juggernaut, as i said the lights you know must be blinding some people That gives you the reverse understanding that, you know, it must be happening because look at even the reactions it's causing, even in a negative way to people.

01:02:04.000 You must know that by their threat, you can also tell, you know, by their backlashing, you can tell, my God, you know, our time has come.

01:02:10.000 And I always describe it as being that people have to stay very optimistic what's happening.

01:02:14.000 This can I am not a person who ever believes that evil will ever triumph in the world, because just like nature abhors a vacuum, nature also abhors that which is evil.

01:02:23.000 And if you are evil, if you're operating from that mindset, you've actually just raised a red flag to the powers of nature to say, come and get me, wipe me out.

01:02:32.000 And I also believe that we are in the time of the death throes of this kind of sphere of activity.

01:02:38.000 This kind of imperialism.

01:02:40.000 We're actually... It's bad.

01:02:41.000 It's hot.

01:02:42.000 Yep.

01:02:42.000 They're up in our face.

01:02:43.000 But as a matter of fact, I also believe you see that it's a situation in which these individuals, it's their dying days.

01:02:49.000 They're in the last phase of the tyranny.

01:02:52.000 And that, you know, it's a situation that we're gonna, you know, overcome it.

01:02:56.000 And it's just that I don't necessarily... See, I don't entertain any other idea at all because I wouldn't be wasting my time on five minutes.

01:03:03.000 Of any of this research, if I didn't totally and utterly believe that good always triumphs over evil, and it will do, and that these people are evil, and my message is that we have to study the nature of evil. 0.93

01:03:13.000 Yeah, a person can be good, but a person can also be good and stupid, or good and blind.

01:03:17.000 The point is now that the awakening continues as we pass the torch from one person to the other, we get our arms around as much information as we can, we do not bicker because we have minute differences. 0.96

01:03:28.000 We're all on camp here.

01:03:29.000 I said this in one of my talks in Los Angeles.

01:03:30.000 We all have our tents encamped upon the battlefield.

01:03:34.000 We have a common enemy to fight.

01:03:37.000 Let us not then bicker and fight amongst ourselves, which is exactly what the enemy on the other side of the valley wants us to do and which is expert at creating situations in which we do this.

01:03:45.000 We've got to understand the fifth columnist, the agent provocateurs, who come in to pit one side of the research community against another.

01:03:52.000 That's why the Internet is infested with these kinds of people, these so-called debunkers, these so-called swarmy, slimy, so-called Internet assassins.

01:04:01.000 I mean, I've often said that behind every garbage can is a critic.

01:04:04.000 Well, inside every garbage can is a debunker. 0.96

01:04:07.000 And these people are the ones who are like the frozen deer.

01:04:11.000 You know, the toothless piranhas that are stifling... Well, have you noticed they never give any proof either?

01:04:16.000 You know, we're saying we're waking up, we're positive, we're affecting... I know.

01:04:20.000 But people who are really doing it are waking people up, they're involved, they're saying, let's work together.

01:04:25.000 But the enemy will attack you and then say, oh, we should work together, why aren't you working together?

01:04:29.000 You know, they never... it's just unbelievable.

01:04:32.000 But it's not just conscious enemy operatives.

01:04:35.000 There are a lot of just broken down, morbid, malfunctioning minds out there that, you know, also have woken up to the New World Order, but still just thrash about attacking everyone.

01:04:46.000 We're going to continue with Michael Tasarian.

01:04:48.000 MichaelTasarian.com is his website.

01:04:49.000 Stay with us.

01:04:50.000 I'm going to skip this one, too.

01:04:53.000 John, are you tired of hearing that... Yes, sir.

01:04:55.000 I'm going to skip this break, too.

01:04:57.000 Okay, Michael, we're going to skip this one, too, for the internet-only audience.

01:05:01.000 When we come back, let's get into the control grid and a lot more.

01:05:05.000 You said you had an address?

01:05:08.000 Yeah, but we're on air at the end of the show.

01:05:10.000 I'll just give you my address and I'd like to get your stuff.

01:05:13.000 I've got several addresses and I don't want to give out my personal address on air.

01:05:17.000 Yeah, yeah, okay, not on air, yeah.

01:05:19.000 But, you know, you bring up the debunkers, and just while we're on the internet audience, It doesn't bother me that so many people attack me or manufacture all these things I've supposedly done.

01:05:31.000 And I know they do that to you, I know.

01:05:34.000 Excuse me.

01:05:37.000 It's that I know that most of them actually aren't government agents.

01:05:40.000 They are just products of the society.

01:05:44.000 And it just blows me away where, I mean, here's an example.

01:05:47.000 There's all these locals in Austin and they just keep claiming lies about me.

01:05:51.000 I mean, they just keep saying I'm in their business, I'm doing things to them, I'm hurting them, and they call me up and say, you've done this and that, and I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:06:04.000 Well, exactly, and so then it builds a type of delusion, and we see that with the delusion of the fear of the Muslims, or delusion of the fear of this group, or that group.

01:06:15.000 I mean, I think it's more of a spirit, or a program, a download, not even so much a government operation.

01:06:20.000 Obviously, some of it is, and it's just so sad to see that...

01:06:26.000 I agree.

01:06:26.000 I've also tracked the same thing back to Envy.

01:06:28.000 They're just jealous that I'm able to reach so many people or that you're able to reach so many people.

01:06:32.000 And so they involve themselves in this infighting, and then they make us close our doors to them, and then they blame us for closing our doors to them when they are the ones attacking us and making stuff up.

01:06:41.000 I agree.

01:06:43.000 I've also tracked the same thing back to envy.

01:06:45.000 I agree wholeheartedly because I've given it so much thought since I became more publicly known, of course, then I had to address this particular backlashing issue, and I've tracked it to envy.

01:06:54.000 I've tracked it to the fact that they are like the deer in the headlights.

01:06:56.000 They're scared to lose, you know, what they think is their security.

01:07:00.000 By getting into knowledge, because knowledge threatens you.

01:07:02.000 Knowledge asks you to think more, to think again, to reevaluate everything you know.

01:07:07.000 And this is, of course, extremely threatening to most people who've just, you know, felt, hey, good, I was just falling asleep.

01:07:11.000 I was just rolling over there to go to sleep and have everything be secure.

01:07:14.000 And now you guys come along and tell me about the Illuminati, or you tell me about, you know, what's waiting for me tomorrow in a dystopia if I don't get up and do something.

01:07:22.000 You put doubt on me about my elected leaders and so forth and so on.

01:07:25.000 You tell me to read, you tell me to study, you know, and this is a big threat to those people who are just so apathetic and narcissistic, so of course, you know, they backlash.

01:07:31.000 I always take it as a positive sign, you know, in the last segment.

01:07:34.000 Well, no, I agree with you.

01:07:35.000 But I mean, I agree with you, but I'm saying people, we've even woken up.

01:07:39.000 They'll admit I've woken them up, or you've woken them up, but then they'll still say, we're bad.

01:07:43.000 Well, you judge a tree by its fruits.

01:07:45.000 How do we wake up so many, but then we're bad, and then they manufacture All these crimes we've supposedly committed so that they have a rationalization to make up more crap about us. 0.91

01:07:55.000 Here we go.

01:07:57.000 Radio Network.

01:07:59.000 Okay, we've got about 51 minutes left with Michael Tesarian, great researcher, michaeltesarian.com.

01:08:05.000 Michael, break down the technological control grid, the microwave guns, the face scanning cameras, the poison in the food and water, all of it admitted, all of it being intensified, 1 in 33 having cancer, now 1 in 2 in men, 1 in 3 in women, you know, just, I mean, the plagues are upon us, it is engineered.

01:08:27.000 Break down this grid.

01:08:29.000 Well, like I said, coming out of the work of Jim Keith and the people who have more of a look at this technotronic world, and you even have some of the insiders talking about that they can't wait for this, people of the Bertrand Russell School, you see, and the whole Bread and Circus clan, the intellectual types.

01:08:44.000 What I've been studying is more the elite type, the people at the top of the pyramid.

01:08:48.000 What is their thinking?

01:08:49.000 What do they want?

01:08:50.000 How do they see mankind?

01:08:51.000 You know, the people coming out of the Thomas Malthus School, the people coming out of the Frankfurt Schools and the Tavistock Institute, and these highbrows who have always looked at us some sort of subhuman animalistic kind of being.

01:09:02.000 I mean, I don't want to get into it right now, but my work even tracks the whole genetic interference with mankind back thousands of years ago.

01:09:09.000 So what we're seeing now with the industrial age, and now we're in the silicon age, and we have all these MITs and Sun corporations, you see all of this effort to look at our genes and to present the gene to us in a very subliminally negative way, some sort of mechanical construct that is just, you know, some sort of mechanical construct that is just, you know, It's dirty, it's broken, we're bad.

01:09:29.000 And for those that don't know, they would, 2,000 years ago in Rome, breed large brutish, quote, dumb Germans, Gauls, and others, you know, together when the slaves were mainly white. 0.98

01:09:41.000 And then it's openly in the slave manuals, very politically incorrect to say, but it's actually history. 0.99

01:09:46.000 I'm not saying it worked, but they actually did also breed people in this country to be large and stupid according to what the official documents say. 0.99

01:09:53.000 Go ahead. 1.00

01:09:54.000 That's right.

01:09:55.000 This is where they're at.

01:09:56.000 This is what, you know, Jim Keith's work really alerted me to.

01:09:58.000 The Dr. Delgados, these Frankensteinian, you know, Bela Lugosi creatures that, you know, haunt the technical world that have huge amount of funding.

01:10:06.000 And what really caught my eye, because as I told you before, my introduction to a lot of this has been through art and through symbolism, I started to notice that the symbolism that these, you know, Alex DeGrasse and these individuals who are now behind the whole Genome Project, and many of the other technological sort of projects and organizations, right from the time of Francis Crick, doing his main research in the Templar zones of London, and then the first genetic experiments being done in the Templar areas of Scotland near Rosslyn,

01:10:31.000 You know, this kind of stuff started to raise a red flag for me because here we're up against the Templar symbolism again.

01:10:38.000 Here we're seeing the Holy Grail symbolism again.

01:10:40.000 Here we're seeing the man in white with the red crosses.

01:10:42.000 What is all of this?

01:10:43.000 What has science got to do with any of this?

01:10:45.000 So then I started tracking that and got into the work of Jim Keith and others who started talking about it.

01:10:50.000 The assault on the human race has been on consciousness, but it's also been on biology.

01:10:54.000 And anyone who stands up against the FDA, the AMA, any of the Dr. Raymond Royal-Rice, the Wilhelm Reich, the Walter Russells, you know, the Max Gersons, the list is endless of anyone who stands up to say, here's how real healing happens, here's how you get, you know, back to your center, both not only legal sovereignty in a social sense, but spiritual sovereignty.

01:11:13.000 You know, they suppress and molest those people, they burn their works, they purge them, they do not let their knowledge be known.

01:11:19.000 So, some of the attacks on the human beings, we have to understand the nature of evil and understand the Hydra that is not just attacking in one way.

01:11:28.000 In fact, often, as Archibald Wavell the General said, watch what the right hand is doing because you're not seeing the left hand.

01:11:34.000 They may present in front of you some sort of bugbear, some sort of, you know, What's it?

01:11:39.000 It's like Wizard of Oz's shadow for you to be, you know, shaking in front of, but the real enemy is coming at you from the back.

01:11:45.000 So, this is what I've also been studying, and I really do believe that this post-human world is upon us, whether they're going to... See, the global village is upon us.

01:11:53.000 I mean, that comes out of my studies of Fabianism and studies of the common purpose and all of that, so... But the global village can be many things.

01:12:01.000 They may not even put chains on you, they may not even build a wall around you, but you can still inhabit this planet as a global slave in the global village.

01:12:09.000 There's many ways of attaining this.

01:12:10.000 And through these RFI chips, the whole situation of the whole digital kingdom opening up for us, this is what's going at breakneck speed.

01:12:18.000 Since they're sort of falling back of the main military budgets, not too much falling back on it, but as obviously they've scaled back from Star Wars and these other things, where do you think all that money is going?

01:12:27.000 That money is now going into the whole technological world to create for human race, basically a cyber purgatory, which is going to be what supplants this ending that I've talked about in the next four to five years.

01:12:41.000 You're going to see a sort of a countdown to extinction of all the traditions All the accepted norms that our forefathers worked for, that we've understood, that our grandparents and our parents, this is both an education, but specifically a medical.

01:12:54.000 Just look at the way that children are medicated up their eyeballs right now.

01:12:57.000 You know, I mean, the complete, there's even one slug from Stanford University, he wants to start introducing the anti, you know, the ADD, No, no, no.

01:13:11.000 the drugs before children even show the symptoms of it.

01:13:15.000 He already wants to put them on that.

01:13:16.000 No, no, no.

01:13:17.000 There's already drugging of children in utero if they, quote, come from poor families in Oregon, which is eugenics. 0.89

01:13:24.000 Right.

01:13:26.000 This goes back to Mari Stokes, right back to the whole Fabian situation, you know, and back to the... And what it is, is these are really murderous, bloodthirsty control freaks who just have disdain and arrogance for everyone.

01:13:39.000 And I've actually talked to some of these top scientists and elitists from these big families. 0.97

01:13:43.000 They're almost mentally retarded in a way. 1.00

01:13:44.000 They're gibbering, they're goblin-like, and they're not even that smart. 1.00

01:13:48.000 They're just vicious, vicious little demons. 0.97

01:13:52.000 Well, the more empty you are, the more fearful you are, the more that you need to exercise these controls.

01:13:59.000 That is the Wizard of Oz shadow situation.

01:14:02.000 People need to wake up, turn on the lights, and not be afraid of that type of thing.

01:14:05.000 It ties into the awakening that you spoke of in the previous segment here.

01:14:09.000 And that is happening.

01:14:09.000 It needs to continue to happen.

01:14:11.000 And as I say, I'm very adamant of people Do not territorialize this knowledge.

01:14:15.000 First of all, this is an alternative subject that we deal with.

01:14:19.000 It is not mainstream.

01:14:20.000 It is not fundamentalistic.

01:14:21.000 You're not going to territorialize it.

01:14:22.000 It does not belong to you.

01:14:24.000 It is knowledge, and you cannot bring the same old world, you know, paradigms of own and control into this area.

01:14:30.000 You don't belong.

01:14:30.000 Go and study.

01:14:31.000 Go back to school, you know, and go back into the orthodox world, is my message to those people. 1.00

01:14:34.000 Yeah, I've noticed people always try to... I noticed people always, in our own, you know, quote, You know, awakening movement, reality movement, whatever you want to call it.

01:14:45.000 They always try to territorialize it about who said when 9-11 was going to happen first, or who discovered this, or who discovered that.

01:14:55.000 And me, I'm always happy to have folks on, give them credit, but I do that almost neurotically just to please those that are keeping score on who came up with this or who thought of this first.

01:15:04.000 I mean, I have trailblazed thousands of things, coined terms, but it means nothing to me.

01:15:09.000 I'm hoping people use it.

01:15:10.000 I'm hoping people expand on my knowledge as I expanded on others, stand on my shoulders as I stood on others.

01:15:17.000 But you're right, there's this obsession with territorializing, and I've done the opposite.

01:15:22.000 I've said, make copies of my films, do whatever you want.

01:15:25.000 Use my material.

01:15:26.000 Don't even give me credit.

01:15:27.000 Because it's about survival.

01:15:30.000 Again, people can wake up to the New World Order, but they haven't woken up to all the conditioning they were already under, and so they've got to break that as well.

01:15:39.000 Well, they're walking towards... See, the word utopia, if you actually look up the meaning of the word utopia as it was first meant to mean, it actually means no place.

01:15:48.000 And this of course then opened up, this would not have been understood when Francis Bacon, you know, coined the term or used it.

01:15:54.000 It certainly makes a lot of sense now because we have virtual kingdoms, we have cyber, you know, purgatories are waiting for us.

01:16:00.000 We have these virtual reality states in which man, so divorced from his own center, so divorced from his own spirit, not only divorced but running headlong away in the opposite direction from his spirit.

01:16:11.000 What do you think is waiting there for him?

01:16:14.000 These individuals are wanting to create a perfect social global village in which you can upload your own consciousness.

01:16:19.000 The internet is one aspect of this.

01:16:21.000 It's not negative, but it's an extension of the cerebral spinal system, as many scholars have shown.

01:16:26.000 The point is, is the way they're engineering the technocracy is to dominate and subjugate and dumb down.

01:16:33.000 So we're not demonizing technology one way or the other, but the architecture of it has been designed for bad.

01:16:39.000 There is no doubting that, and we're being inserted into the false reality when our whole development is about this plane of existence, and we need to maintain that.

01:16:49.000 We can certainly expand, but we need to maintain and expand our core, not give up our core of who we are to, quote, expand into something else, because that will destroy who we really are.

01:17:00.000 Right, and we often, because again of the misuse of terms, because of the media's complicity in all of this, we often think of technology as being nothing to do with spirituality.

01:17:08.000 In fact, spirit and technology are two words for the same thing.

01:17:11.000 If you go back in history and you'll notice the emphasis of technology when it's used to write, to build pyramids, to feed the poor, you see, to irrigate great rivers.

01:17:19.000 I mean, technology was in the hands of all of the most spiritual people in the past.

01:17:24.000 It's being sequestered, it's being repackaged, it's being sort of territorialized and owned by those who are the darkest of powers.

01:17:30.000 It doesn't belong to them.

01:17:31.000 The great samurai, you know, the people who could make the great swords in the past, the great horsemen, or the great, you know, whatever, the musicians, the musicology, the creators of instruments.

01:17:40.000 You know, all of this is technology, isn't it?

01:17:42.000 So technology surrounds us as part of who we are.

01:17:45.000 But it also has a spiritual component.

01:17:46.000 It needs to be back in the hands of the people who are spiritual, not in the hands of these demonic people who are using it to, you know, destroy humanity.

01:17:53.000 That's right.

01:17:54.000 We are a species who envisions and then creates.

01:17:57.000 We are a magical species compared to everything else on this planet.

01:18:01.000 As neat as dolphins are, they've got nothing on Homo sapiens sapiens.

01:18:04.000 And the enemy has to blunt and dumb down that creativity and get us focused off into issues of no significance or brute, bestial, lower level, making that, you know, through the mammalian image, You got it.

01:18:17.000 through the peer pressure to be that lower man instead of that higher man, and they claim that they are building a world for a higher man when the entire architecture is to destroy what man is and feed us into a technocratic meat grinder.

01:18:31.000 You got it.

01:18:32.000 On the Michael Tasarin website, people will see an article there called Weapons of Mass Destruction Found, and it addresses this whole concept between the magic and the sorcery.

01:18:41.000 I refer to what they're doing as sorcery, black sorcery. 0.80

01:18:43.000 Basically, these people are possessed by a kind of archon, a demonic force that they serve, or they've... You can look at it the other way, that they have basically uploaded their own consciousness into that place, into that place of fear, envy, endless greed, endless darkness.

01:18:58.000 It doesn't matter which way you look at it.

01:18:59.000 Either something's possessed them, or they have uploaded their consciousness What they've done is they've murdered their own spirit psychologically, and then by doing that, you allow this dark sorcery to enter into you.

01:19:10.000 Well, you can look at it either way, but the sum result is the infected, the person who is infected by that spiritual virus, cannot sit still.

01:19:17.000 This is what the people of America and the world need to understand.

01:19:20.000 That kind of infected person cannot sit still unless they go around and try to infect everybody else.

01:19:25.000 The thing makes sense when you look at it from a psychological point of view.

01:19:28.000 That's right.

01:19:28.000 Faith without works is dead, and that goes for the dark side and the light side.

01:19:32.000 I mean, people are going to manifest and build what their core is.

01:19:37.000 And then notice the occultists at the higher levels want to make everybody low-level atheist and not believe any of that, so that blinds us. 0.61

01:19:43.000 But at the top, the real top atheists in people are wild, satanic Luciferians. 0.89

01:19:48.000 We're going to skip this break, too. 0.95

01:19:49.000 BehindTheScenes.com.

01:19:52.000 Michael, let's just keep going, because have you noticed and seen the Theophilic Societies and the Blavatskyites and the OTO people? 0.99

01:20:02.000 When you get up to high-level folks, like Dr. Pionk, I keep talking about, he's in a Druid outfit, he says, I love Lucifer on his website, on the official UT website, he names his bison bull Lucifer.

01:20:15.000 You know, when you really get around these guys, they are into the occult, but into their classes and everybody, they're making fun of anybody who's religious, anybody who believes there's other dimensions, anybody who believes there's more to the world.

01:20:27.000 They go, oh, you're not of reason, and I see that as shuddering people from whatever humans are, and you know, whatever this hunger for religion, you know, shuddering us down here, so they can operate up here with, as you call it, you know, their sorcery, which is their mind control.

01:20:41.000 That's right, and many of these other organizations You see, are like fraternal orders in which you have to pass through them in order to be matriculated to get into, you know, what I would say, like what we talked about in the first segment about the Atmos, the true story of masonry.

01:20:54.000 They're not just going to hand that down to anybody.

01:20:57.000 So they put, from the school level onwards, through all of these various occult and other organizations, you see, they're like steps on the ladder.

01:21:04.000 I mean, even the masons use the symbol of the ladder.

01:21:06.000 You have to die into what you knew. 0.97

01:21:09.000 You have to die to the world that you knew.

01:21:10.000 And I believe this is a kind of insanity, a form of unsane insanity, and therefore you have to sort of, they have a carrot and a stick approach in which you have to then matriculate, matriculate, matriculate until you are complicit and submissive enough so that they can then infect you with their infection.

01:21:26.000 It's basically as simple as that.

01:21:28.000 Until people strengthen themselves through knowledge, which is the only way to strengthen and have a spiritual connection to something, you know, they're not going to be able to warm up.

01:21:36.000 Well, you talk about psychic vampirism.

01:21:39.000 There is no doubt that's what this new world order is.

01:21:43.000 Big time.

01:21:43.000 You know, we're doing DVDs.

01:21:44.000 That's another DVD project we're doing.

01:21:46.000 Right now, I believe that things are moving so fast that, you know, and remember, as we said earlier, there's only so much of this knowledge that we study that people can handle.

01:21:54.000 They're already balking and they're already, you know, covering their eyes and screaming to hide under the bed.

01:21:59.000 Even with the sort of lower level stuff about the Illuminati and, you know, the death of the Constitution, they can't even handle that, let alone things like psychic vampirism and war on consciousness.

01:22:07.000 So, you know, I tend to pace my stuff out there because I realize that sometimes, you know, and this of course does not include everyone, there are people who are totally ready for this, but the masses of the world are not ready for this.

01:22:16.000 So you have to sort of go slow and pace what you're creating and what you're writing about.

01:22:20.000 You know, what you're putting out there, you can tell them a little bit about it, because the human race is so unready for a lot of this.

01:22:25.000 There is an awakening taking place, but it's also a very natal thing.

01:22:28.000 Well, I know this.

01:22:29.000 I go off what my gut tells me.

01:22:31.000 You know, I analyze the real world, what I can prove, but my gut tells me the human race is very, very old.

01:22:36.000 The human race has incredible potential and is really going to go places if we can only move past this whole new world order system.

01:22:47.000 My main message in most of my work is to understand the nature of deconstruction.

01:22:51.000 That moving forward is partly acquisitive and partly an active movement forward, but you also have to jettison.

01:22:57.000 And anything that moves forward, anything that's going to progress, it also needs to shed skins.

01:23:01.000 It also needs to jettison and deconstruct all the rubbish and all the miasma and all the webs, you see, of ignorance. 0.83

01:23:09.000 Learning is a dual process.

01:23:11.000 It requires you to clean, just like we have to wash our bodies when dust accumulates and dirt accumulates.

01:23:15.000 We have to clean our cars, our homes, everything, the plates we eat off.

01:23:19.000 And people sometimes have forgotten this in their search for the light.

01:23:21.000 They also have to realize that there's a lot of parasites, a lot of sharks, a lot of mosquitoes, a lot of, you know, like we talked about earlier, a lot of darkness that comes around as you start moving towards the truth and towards the light.

01:23:32.000 That's when the dirt is going to be shining up.

01:23:34.000 That's when you're going to see the dirt for what it is.

01:23:36.000 You can't say yuck and run away from it or hide.

01:23:38.000 You've got to know how to take out the right kind of detergent to deal with the dirt, be it psychic or social or anything else.

01:23:43.000 And in my work, the basic message to everyone is you're not going to have legal, social, political sovereignty or any solvency until you've got it mentally and spiritually.

01:23:53.000 Stay there, stay there, stay there.

01:23:56.000 Here we go.

01:23:59.000 You know, I take myself as a microcosm of a journey of awakening.

01:24:09.000 Some people misinterpret what I'm doing as fear.

01:24:14.000 No, fear would put people in their box, in a catatonic state, in a field position, not moving forward.

01:24:19.000 Why has Alex Jones?

01:24:22.000 For all my foibles and problems, why have I been the most effective, and I think that's universally pretty much accepted even by my detractors on all fronts, as the most effective at waking people up?

01:24:33.000 Well, it's because I reached out to the people of the United States and the world and taught them and showed them how much power they had and how much they could do to wake up others.

01:24:41.000 And that's why, if you're the listeners and the visitors of InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, So you judge a tree by its fruits.

01:24:48.000 We have really resisted the New World Order, had a lot of victories against them, woken up a lot of people. 0.52

01:24:52.000 And it's because I have passion, and I am aggressive, and I am angry, and I shake people out of the mesmerized position they're in with the TV and the culture, to then just kind of like a cold bucket of water, ice water, wake them up and shake them out of that.

01:25:13.000 And Michael Tesari and David Icke, many others have also been very, very successful at doing this.

01:25:19.000 So, what are your ideas of how to fight this technocracy?

01:25:25.000 I mean, I want people to see how dangerous it is and know what a great threat it is, so they will move out of the way of the threat and then over it and on top of it and, you know, to denature it.

01:25:38.000 I mean, what are your ideas of how this revolution of human consciousness, how this is going to play out, and what are your ideas in the solution?

01:25:50.000 Well, see, whatever you want to call it, God, nature has already given us the tools.

01:25:54.000 It's called the human reason.

01:25:56.000 It's called the human curiosity.

01:25:58.000 This has built the greatest bridges.

01:25:59.000 It has created the shuttle.

01:26:01.000 It has built the greatest nations on earth.

01:26:03.000 It's built pyramids.

01:26:04.000 We already have the hardware within us installed, but what has happened is we've been conditioned to not use it, to doubt our own sensibilities, to doubt our own bodies, to doubt that we have control over our own lives and our own families and our own communities.

01:26:19.000 And this has been the insipid drip-feeding you see of the lie.

01:26:21.000 I'm going to back up and talk about what you just said there about being angry.

01:26:25.000 First of all, I do not have a degree in psychology, but I have studied the subject thoroughly, and I can tell you that you, Alex, are neither mad nor paranoid.

01:26:33.000 And that you are a person who's got the guts to stand up and be as mad as hell, who can channel her anger positively.

01:26:40.000 And this is what is needed.

01:26:41.000 Go back to the movie Network. 0.96

01:26:42.000 You gotta be as mad as hell.

01:26:43.000 You gotta fall in love with the word no.

01:26:45.000 You gotta ask questions.

01:26:47.000 And you gotta do it when anyone else comes to help you do it or not.

01:26:50.000 And this is very vital.

01:26:52.000 You know, as I said, Ulster men from my country fought in the War of Independence.

01:26:56.000 This war, to me, is still going on.

01:26:58.000 And people need to be armed up because something is shooting at us.

01:27:01.000 Something is taking away that which is most precious.

01:27:03.000 And therefore something has to be done.

01:27:05.000 And you have to be as mad as hell, but you also have to channel that madness, and that healthy anger, and be armed up to fight this kind of tiger in the long grass.

01:27:13.000 It is not something that's going to make itself known.

01:27:16.000 You could easily shoot in the wrong direction, you see?

01:27:18.000 So people need to be armed up with knowledge and education.

01:27:21.000 And I will not stand in my life, you see, which is happening a lot, I see in the world, that these people who come into this subject, either they're bandwagon hoppers, or like we said, they're maybe debunkers or whatever, Or they may just be a bunch of intellectuals who try to come there, you know, with the same rules that they knew in the college, in the university, in the mainstream, jumping through the hoops.

01:27:39.000 And then they come into this world and go, where's your qualifications?

01:27:42.000 You know, what kind of books and DVDs have you written or done?

01:27:45.000 You know, and they want to territorialize this knowledge and they want to make you jump through the hoops.

01:27:50.000 See, I've always told, just like you do, the average person, take action, be a leader.

01:27:54.000 You know, it can do incredible things.

01:27:56.000 And the enemy hates that, that I tell people that they're empowered individually.

01:27:59.000 They try to misquote me and misinterpret and claim that I'm saying that people don't have power.

01:28:03.000 No, I'm saying you do have power, you do affect change, you can change the world around you.

01:28:10.000 Well, you see, one of the earliest mottos, one of the earliest mottos of the ancient Irish, It's very simple, and it's said in Gaelic, but in English, it is deeds to match words.

01:28:23.000 And this is the fact, that here we are in a situation of colossal attack on the human race.

01:28:30.000 We are literally dealing with the death of America, if we're not careful, you know, at least the death of the America that was known and built by the forefathers. 0.97

01:28:37.000 And people are sitting there passively and twittering and howling and screeching about meaningless crap. 1.00

01:28:43.000 They gotta get off of their damn ass, is what I say. 1.00

01:28:46.000 You know, people do exactly what you're doing. 1.00

01:28:48.000 So, I'm hoping that people will model themselves on you.

01:28:50.000 You know, what happens when people watch...

01:28:52.000 You know, what was the reality back in the 1950s?

01:28:55.000 You know, people like me in Britain, Alex, grew up watching the Humphrey Bogart, you know, movies, the Jimmy Cagney movies, when people in America looked you right in the eye and told you where to get off.

01:29:04.000 What the hell happened? 0.97

01:29:05.000 How did everything become so politically correct and so asinine? 0.99

01:29:08.000 Well, notice the mainstream media always tells us, be passive, don't be aggressive, don't stand up for yourself. 0.91

01:29:13.000 But meanwhile, the government is aggressive and pushy towards us.

01:29:16.000 They're letting us know they're the boss.

01:29:20.000 Well, Michael Tasarian is our guest.

01:29:22.000 This is so important for the InfoWars streams.

01:29:24.000 I'm going to skip this again and come back for everybody else in just three minutes.

01:29:29.000 This is the one, the only GCN Radio Network and MichaelTasarian.com is the website.

01:29:34.000 I'll be a routine guest here on the show.

01:29:37.000 Stay with us.

01:29:37.000 We'll be right back.

01:29:41.000 Okay, Michael, when we come back, I want to plug some of your books and videos for the full audience, but in the last 30 minutes when we come back, I've got to plug a few sponsors as well.

01:29:51.000 What are some of the final things you want to discuss?

01:29:54.000 Well, let's just talk about... I want to give people a heads up on the DVD that's coming out.

01:29:58.000 It's actually a series.

01:29:59.000 We're making like two or three in the series.

01:30:00.000 It's going to be on technology and basically focusing on the future Because, you know, there's one thing to critique what's been going on in the past.

01:30:06.000 It's like my focus is now on where we're heading, and it's very much that this technology used wrongly is going to be one of the major clubs in the hand of the global elite.

01:30:15.000 Well, what's happening is, incrementally, Incrementally, they are intensifying the poison in the shots, in the water, in the food, the frequency pollution, which they admit is really hurting people, the cell phones and the wireless and all of it.

01:30:30.000 And I do see them gradually accelerating now the gradual implementation of all of this.

01:30:35.000 And I do see it all coming to a head in 2012 and beyond.

01:30:39.000 I see that as the real kickoff of what they believe to be the final war between these two different forces.

01:30:46.000 And I do believe in God, and I do believe that we're going to come out of this on the end.

01:30:52.000 The problem is, I don't even like to use the term Christian, because that has been so taken over and changed from what it really even means by the modern system and all the occultism and the steeples and Easter and the rest of it.

01:31:04.000 It's not even recognizable.

01:31:06.000 All the paganism. 0.83

01:31:09.000 All the paganism. 0.83

01:31:10.000 Don't these Knights of Malta and everybody else go by the banner of Christianity? 0.94

01:31:15.000 You know, and they're the least Christian. 1.00

01:31:16.000 They're the least believing in Christ than you could have imagined.

01:31:18.000 It's amazing.

01:31:21.000 Well...

01:31:22.000 When we come back, we'll get into the technocracy, where you see things going.

01:31:27.000 I mean, break down specifically the type of upheavals you think we're going to witness, how this whole economic banking takeover feeds into it as well, Michael.

01:31:38.000 And there is so much on your site.

01:31:40.000 How many documentaries or videos have you done?

01:31:44.000 Well, I've done one series of 22 DVDs.

01:31:49.000 There's 6 DVDs, 22 discs in all.

01:31:50.000 It's called The Origins and Oracles.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, sure.

01:31:53.000 Always.

01:31:53.000 Absolutely.

01:31:54.000 There's been a barrage of it since, in fact, last year.

01:31:57.000 Six-part DVD series.

01:31:59.000 It's a long-running series, 22 DVDs and all.

01:32:02.000 It covers a lot of stuff.

01:32:04.000 Are you getting a lot of threats because you didn't even want us to say on air where you are?

01:32:07.000 Yeah, sure.

01:32:09.000 Always.

01:32:09.000 Absolutely.

01:32:10.000 There's been a barrage of it since, in fact, last year.

01:32:13.000 So we have to be very cautious, you know.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, we've had a lot of people have their places broken in, too.

01:32:19.000 We've had stuff done to our vehicles over here.

01:32:21.000 A lot of things I don't get into on air, but man, the attacks are intensifying.

01:32:26.000 Sure.

01:32:26.000 These people can prevent you traveling.

01:32:28.000 They can fuck with you in many ways. 1.00

01:32:29.000 All right. 0.99

01:32:30.000 Listen, it's a good thing we're not on the AM and FM dial right now.

01:32:33.000 This is the U.S. 0.77

01:32:34.000 This is actually on a lot of AM and FM stations, all these little internet, which are very important shows, but, you know, they can get away with that.

01:32:39.000 We can't do that, Michael, so be careful when we come back, even with the hells and damns.

01:32:43.000 I'm not trying to censor you.

01:32:45.000 I just think it gives people an excuse not to listen to what you have to say.

01:32:47.000 Okay, here we go, my friend.

01:32:48.000 Here we go.

01:32:48.000 I'm going to take five phone calls for Michael Tesarian coming up in about 15 minutes.

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01:35:49.000 Okay, going back to Michael Tesarian, michaeltesarian.com.

01:35:53.000 Michael, I want to go to some calls here in about 10 minutes or so, but continue with the technological control grid, and you talk about them clamping down the next three years or so.

01:36:01.000 Really, I mean, people think we've already seen an intensification of operations by the globalists.

01:36:05.000 You're talking about really intensifying things.

01:36:08.000 Break that down for us.

01:36:10.000 Well, these are people who've always thought of man as some sort of golem.

01:36:14.000 You know the story of the golem? 0.99

01:36:16.000 And even coming out of the New Age movement, all this stuff about the Greys, you know, I believe that that's been infiltrated, and a lot of that is disinformation, in order to, you know, prepare us to be not only afraid, of course, of some sort of off-world invasion, that, you know, that is science fiction, but it works well to prepare people for what's coming.

01:36:33.000 But basically, when you start reading the certain schools of Bertrand Russell and these kinds of people, and these other maniacs that I deal with in, you know, my work, Throughout my books and DVDs, these individuals literally do think of themselves as some sort of robotic, mechanical beings, and nothing could be... In their greatest pipe dreams, you see, is to make a completely controllable human being.

01:36:57.000 I actually believe that for ritual purposes, certain segments of these Illumined Ones, so-called, wanted to completely devastate and wipe out the human race a long time ago.

01:37:07.000 And that another quadrant, another section or cadre, Sort of, you know, frowned upon that in the past and didn't want that, and came up with the idea that, look, to make the perfect robot, all we gotta do is dumb down the people of the world to the level of the robot, to the level of the cyborg, and the job is done.

01:37:24.000 And that's basically where we're at.

01:37:25.000 That's where we've been up until now.

01:37:28.000 Now, they have restored the technology.

01:37:30.000 Because remember, these people armed themselves to the teeth with not only knowledge, but occult knowledge.

01:37:35.000 And so, I am not a person who's a Luddite.

01:37:39.000 I am all for technology.

01:37:40.000 But I do not want technology in the hands of occultists who are working from, you know, occult knowledge and then arming themselves with this technology. 0.66

01:37:48.000 This is the problem.

01:37:49.000 And this is also a message to those who are working in these technological sort of enclaves.

01:37:53.000 They gotta be aware of this and research this to find out about the occult ideologies that are behind these technical orgs and behind some of these, you know, people's champions.

01:38:03.000 Within the Genome Project and with some of these materialist philosophers and scientists who are just itching to create the global village.

01:38:11.000 And that, through the electronics, through the technologies, through the cybernetics, you see.

01:38:16.000 And this is actually an old story.

01:38:17.000 People are familiar with the work I did in my Atlantis book, know that this is a very old story.

01:38:22.000 That these cybernetics and cryogenics and the genetic manipulation is not something new.

01:38:27.000 It's just that they've had to build back the technology at a record pace now.

01:38:31.000 You know, in the chronology of time.

01:38:34.000 And they're succeeding to do this.

01:38:36.000 And that is why I believe they have postponed certain other events.

01:38:39.000 Because they wanted the tunnel vision on this particular thing.

01:38:42.000 It's backed up by the work of Jim Keith and these people that I've been mentioning a lot here.

01:38:46.000 And we've got to realize, you see, that this is coming down.

01:38:48.000 It's not just with arming the police with superweapons.

01:38:52.000 It's not just putting the, you know, HAARP technology and microwave technology.

01:38:56.000 ...installing that on the satellites so that they have a complete police state, global village situation in which no nation or no person can operate independently, you see.

01:39:05.000 And then they troubleshoot this, they check it out in the terrestrial wars that are going on on the planet.

01:39:10.000 These block operations that have been exposed... Yeah, they call them laboratories.

01:39:14.000 They call it a laboratory.

01:39:15.000 They call a war a laboratory.

01:39:17.000 That's it.

01:39:18.000 So they want this particular being, you know, magnetized, Vaccinated, you know, injected, and completely, you know, digitized so that they can then control every aspect of what you're doing.

01:39:29.000 Here's one microcosm example.

01:39:32.000 The GMO milk, the GMO food, the plastics, and there's hundreds of types of plastics they pick for worldwide distribution over 90% of the plastic cups.

01:39:41.000 The one type of plastic that sheds the estrogen-mimicking hormones, it's a documented fact.

01:39:47.000 They chose it 40 years ago for that reason.

01:39:49.000 That's come out.

01:39:50.000 And then three-year-old girls, four-year-old girls, by the tens of thousands, by the millions at seven, eight, nine, are going into puberty early, then they get breast cancer early, you know, they get sick early, and then they know all that.

01:40:02.000 And when they go to the doctor, they don't say, quit drinking GMO milk, they don't say, quit drinking out of plastic.

01:40:07.000 They say, oh, we're going to give you hardcore, complex hormonal injections that then suppress that, but then also give you Cushing's disease and fry all your glands.

01:40:20.000 So again, they engineer that.

01:40:21.000 The local doctor is compartmentalized.

01:40:23.000 He doesn't know.

01:40:24.000 And they give the little girl something that's far worse.

01:40:26.000 Meanwhile, our boys are on so much estrogen that now they've got 10, 12, 14, 15-year-old boys whose testicles haven't dropped.

01:40:33.000 And I hate to get technical, but they're like ovaries. 1.00

01:40:35.000 They're still inside the body.

01:40:37.000 when normally testicles should drop when you're about 8 and 9, right before you go into puberty at 12. 0.62

01:40:41.000 I mean, they are attacking us. 0.67

01:40:43.000 The frogs, the fish off the water we drink are now becoming sterile en masse.

01:40:48.000 I mean, this is scientific.

01:40:50.000 We have the sperm countdown, 75% in the Western world, 85% in many areas.

01:40:55.000 I mean, the proof's in the pudding.

01:40:56.000 Absolutely.

01:40:58.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:40:59.000 And it goes to this whole idea of the heart of tyranny, the origin of tyranny, and that the human race is their chattel to do with as they feel like.

01:41:08.000 And they don't want disgruntled people.

01:41:10.000 They want a totally pacified, you know, and dumbed-down individual that they can completely own.

01:41:15.000 And, you see, they know that they also never sit quietly.

01:41:19.000 Quiet.

01:41:20.000 They know that there is an awakening taking place, so these guys just don't let that happen.

01:41:23.000 They have to also, you know, arm themselves to react against the awakening that this... Well, I had one of them on earlier, where they're going to put all these satellite trackers in all the cars to Texas, and from a government study, and he was going, it's okay, it's not coming for a long time, it may not even happen, this is good for you.

01:41:40.000 I mean, and it's always the same script.

01:41:44.000 It's always the same script, and I tie it into The Awakening.

01:41:47.000 You know, I said this in one of my talks entitled Origins of Evil, and in the first ten minutes of that talk I said that, look, as the human child starts to awaken and tries to gain back his spirit, that is exactly at the point where the monster, the vampire comes in.

01:42:00.000 They're waiting there to infuse you with more, you know, toxicity so that you again fall into your But see, that's it.

01:42:08.000 They want you to fall into the sleep, and that's why you're affected, why I'm affected.

01:42:11.000 We're shaking them, going, no, wake up!

01:42:13.000 Don't even believe me!

01:42:14.000 You're being manipulated by Madison Avenue, by the culture, by the propaganda, and if you can't even admit that when it's admitted, there's much more advanced things.

01:42:22.000 We're shocking them, saying, you need to realize what's going on.

01:42:26.000 There needs to be that urgency for people to get out You know, like, I knew cell phones were frying my brain, but I kept using them.

01:42:33.000 I finally got to where I check my messages about once a day on it.

01:42:36.000 I keep it far away from me.

01:42:37.000 My wife isn't using hers anymore. 1.00

01:42:39.000 We're living without it.

01:42:40.000 It tracks us.

01:42:40.000 It hurts us.

01:42:41.000 You know, I could break my habit.

01:42:43.000 We can all do this, and it takes the urgency, Michael. 0.99

01:42:47.000 Yeah, but when you have a media that turns around and shows you Bill Gates' wife is, you know, injecting her dog with a microchip and then suddenly it's not the dog anymore, it's the children, just like you showed on Road to Tyranny, you have that stupid, gormless LA family who goes, this is just wonderful, I can't wait! 0.97

01:43:02.000 You know, it's going to save abduction, it's going to save kidnapping, it's going to save your dog. 0.99

01:43:06.000 You know, the human race is dumb enough to be turning around and going, yeah, I want one too, where can I get it? 0.83

01:43:10.000 By the way, it turns out that was all fake, and the family worked for Applied Digital Solution, an IBM front directorate, and then magically, magically members of the family started dying. 0.98

01:43:22.000 How about that?

01:43:23.000 Well, this is the casualty list.

01:43:24.000 They never publicized that about all the, like they said, with the estrogen that they're pumping into the girls. 0.80

01:43:29.000 And then these court cases that are backed up because there's been so much, you know, reactions in these children and these young people.

01:43:35.000 I'm very concerned about this whole medicated child bit.

01:43:38.000 I do a lot of work on that and a lot of research on that.

01:43:40.000 But see, that's what the HPV is, a live cancer virus.

01:43:43.000 It's killing a bunch of people, maiming tens of thousands, and they knew it would do that.

01:43:47.000 They rolled it out as a test of how to cover it up, how to suppress it, how to have these soft kill weapons being openly used out in the public and testing how to compartmentalize it and cover it up.

01:43:58.000 And they tried on different populations of the world.

01:44:01.000 Remember, one type of virus is not going to work well on different kinds of nations, different kinds of people.

01:44:06.000 I can tell you, you know, and I know you know this, that from the AIDS virus down, from the bird flus, and from all of this other stuff, these are rehearsals for the worldwide plague. 0.59

01:44:17.000 They're testing how soft kills move.

01:44:20.000 Go ahead, absolutely right.

01:44:22.000 Yeah, they're ready to unleash a global plague.

01:44:24.000 You know, the science fiction writers have already written about it and tried to warn people.

01:44:28.000 And this is the perfect way.

01:44:29.000 Through food.

01:44:30.000 It's through food.

01:44:30.000 There's an old statement that says that people are three meals away from revolution.

01:44:34.000 This was brought out in movies like Three Days of the Condor.

01:44:37.000 Some people have used it in the context of oil.

01:44:39.000 But oil is a hell of a lot less important than the food, you know, sort of Damocles that these people are going to use because they're sequestering the organic seeds now just like in some sort of hideous, you know, Uh, Noah's Ark experiment.

01:44:52.000 We've got the facts on this.

01:44:53.000 We've got the proof on this.

01:44:54.000 They're working overtime on it.

01:44:55.000 Well, James Bond was Ian Fleming.

01:44:57.000 OSS and then MI6.

01:44:59.000 And they love to throw it in your face.

01:45:01.000 And every one of those movies, later, some manifestation of reality would then be shown.

01:45:07.000 And remember Moonraker, where the global elitists want to kill everybody and then repopulate the Earth.

01:45:12.000 That's right, all the way from the first one, Her Majesty's Secret Service, all the way up to the Moonraker.

01:45:18.000 You're right, they're whistleblowing this through the films.

01:45:20.000 They want to tell.

01:45:21.000 Because remember, this is a ritual situation.

01:45:23.000 You need to tell the sacrificial goat what on earth is happening here.

01:45:27.000 That's the lesser magic.

01:45:29.000 Yeah, that's the lesser magic.

01:45:31.000 They have to do that first, yeah.

01:45:34.000 I totally agree with it, and that's what basically our job is.

01:45:36.000 Our job is not to territorialize knowledge, not to jump through hoops, but to try and collate a lot of this information, present it for people, you know, in an unbiased way.

01:45:44.000 And the enemy are in their own prison.

01:45:47.000 They are habitualized.

01:45:48.000 They are very obsessive-compulsive.

01:45:50.000 They do everything the same over and over again.

01:45:53.000 I think that's their weakness, Michael.

01:45:55.000 Well, right.

01:45:56.000 Remember earlier on you said that there's something wrong with them, there's something sort of inhuman about them?

01:46:00.000 This, I believe, ties into an experimentation that happened in ancient times, in which certain beings were created, these are the world rulers today, and they don't even have What we would refer to as spirit or soul.

01:46:11.000 So we've got to understand that we're talking about people here who are, you know, connected to sorcery and to dynastic concerns that have sworn themselves to this kind of control for years.

01:46:23.000 They look at us like some people look at the pets.

01:46:25.000 Like the laboratory, you know, doctor looks at the rats in the maze.

01:46:29.000 That is exactly how the human race is to them, and it's something that needs to be controlled, and there's not, in their mind, any question about it.

01:46:35.000 That's the way it has to go, because they look at us as untidy, unruly, you know, they look at us as just like cannon fodder, they always have done, and people need to understand that the movement of imperialism, the movement of tyranny, involves this invasion of our particular biological sovereignty, and our mental and spiritual sovereignty, just as much as it does working on a legal, political sphere of action.

01:46:59.000 People tend to focus on that, You know, what's happening now is I hope that people can start to see the spiritual components of this and realize that there is an occult war taking place and it's on everything that is good.

01:47:09.000 Well, the bottom line is, folks, you can believe us or not, but war is being waged against you by the technocratic elite.

01:47:16.000 Whether it's real or not, they're all in the occult.

01:47:18.000 They believe into it.

01:47:19.000 You know, they believe what they're saying.

01:47:21.000 What Michael's telling you is true.

01:47:22.000 I mean, I don't know how true it would be.

01:47:24.000 It is in facts, but they believe it. 1.00

01:47:26.000 They believe they're another species, and they believe your baby is a piece of crap that needs to be killed. 1.00

01:47:32.000 And they're coming for us. 1.00

01:47:33.000 They're already attacking us.

01:47:34.000 They brainwashed the cops.

01:47:35.000 The military, they brainwashed.

01:47:37.000 A lot of them are waking up.

01:47:38.000 We didn't make it this way.

01:47:40.000 Everything we've told you has come true so far.

01:47:41.000 We're telling you it's going to get a lot more crazy, and you better realize this is life and death.

01:47:46.000 Let's take some calls.

01:47:47.000 Mick in Pennsylvania.

01:47:49.000 You're on the air with Michael Tesarian.

01:47:51.000 Thank you very much.

01:47:51.000 In an effort to be for speed, I'm going to kind of babble quick.

01:47:54.000 It seems like the controlled media is the most useful tool in their toolbox, and if we could, do you think there's any way we could possibly, we have to come up with some way to break up that monopoly, perhaps through the use of their own fairness doctrine, because we don't have much.

01:48:11.000 Yeah, but they're going to selectively enforce that and use that to shut me down.

01:48:15.000 That was always selectively used.

01:48:17.000 We need to intensify the web, not let them take it over, not take it for granted while we still have it right now.

01:48:24.000 Just each of you individually, waking up friends and neighbors and family, is an unstoppable force.

01:48:28.000 There are leaders out there listening right now that will dwarf what Michael Tessari and Alex Jones and many others have done.

01:48:35.000 Okay, you just have to start the fight, start the battle, and that will lead you into just amazing opportunities.

01:48:40.000 Oh, thank you.

01:48:43.000 And just real quick, in all his research, the Israeli identity message of the European race is actually being that supposedly to walk tribes of israel Yes, that goes back to what I said earlier.

01:48:57.000 Let me get Michael to comment on that.

01:49:01.000 We told you the Queen of England is coronated on the Stone of Jacob, where supposedly Abraham was going to sacrifice him, and so yes, they believe that... This goes back to the Merovingian line.

01:49:14.000 Do you want to explain this?

01:49:16.000 Well, you're totally right.

01:49:17.000 I was just going to say that, that we are in the hands of people who are dynastically linked to these Merovingians, who themselves, their ancestry goes all the way back into Egypt.

01:49:26.000 And Mick, you know, if you pick up my book on the Irish origins of civilization, you'll have an enlightening experience, because you see, when people like yourself ask questions like this, it's very important to identify the terms.

01:49:36.000 who are the twelve tribes of Israel?

01:49:38.000 Who are the lost tribes of Israel?

01:49:40.000 What we've got to do is analyze those very terms and find out who are we really talking about, because the image that's been presented to us from official sources is not even the true image.

01:49:49.000 That's a made-for-TV, made-for-the-history-books, you know, sort of a description of who these people actually are.

01:49:55.000 That's like sort of a dance on a theater, but you've got to understand those are actors.

01:49:59.000 There's the real tribes, and then there's the counterfeit.

01:50:03.000 You bet.

01:50:04.000 Yeah.

01:50:04.000 And we've been handed the counterfeit.

01:50:06.000 The time has come now to look behind the passion play and find out who is really operating behind these sort of, you know, as you say, the lost tribes.

01:50:12.000 You know, it's a fascinating story of who the real Jews are, who the real Judaics are. 0.92

01:50:17.000 We're using those terms as has been handed down to us from the establishment.

01:50:21.000 They're not even the correct terms.

01:50:23.000 So often when we're banding terms around like this, We're not even using them as their true, occult definition.

01:50:28.000 This is the biggest problem.

01:50:29.000 What does a Jew, the word mean to a Freemason, is a totally different meaning of that word than it is to, say, the layman on the street, you see.

01:50:36.000 So the definition of terms is a research, is a time to study, to find out, you know, first of all, we're not even using the right definition.

01:50:43.000 All right, Michael Desarian, final segment coming up.

01:50:46.000 More of your phone calls straight ahead.

01:50:48.000 Stay with us.

01:50:50.000 We're going to skip this break.

01:50:51.000 More than seven.

01:50:52.000 Okay, I'm going to go back to calls right now.

01:50:54.000 Let's talk to Michael in Texas.

01:50:56.000 You're on the air, Michael.

01:50:57.000 Go ahead.

01:50:58.000 Thank you.

01:51:00.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:51:01.000 Alex?

01:51:03.000 Yes, sir.

01:51:03.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:51:06.000 Michael, I sure appreciate the work you do, too.

01:51:11.000 Since the beginning of these thought forms of this oligarchy, as you said earlier, around 1500 B.C., the civilizations that have followed The reason why they've been able to continue this is because we've never been able to rise above their low-level vibration that they so cleverly sustained through their rituals that you were speaking about a while ago.

01:51:33.000 My question is, how do we go about addressing that and those rituals?

01:51:38.000 Is it something that we can do through our own meditations?

01:51:46.000 Like, you know, for instance, covering the world with golden light, so as to... Well, see, I don't get into all the New Age stuff, and I appreciate your call.

01:51:54.000 I'm going to let Michael comment on that.

01:51:56.000 This is action.

01:51:57.000 This is action.

01:51:58.000 This is in the streets.

01:51:59.000 I mean, let's say you're spiritually awake and alive.

01:52:01.000 It is going to physically manifest.

01:52:03.000 Look at India, where they're all filling it with golden light, and it's a hellhole. 1.00

01:52:07.000 Now, I don't know if Michael agrees with that, but Michael, you want to comment?

01:52:10.000 Yeah, I do agree with that, because what we have to understand, Michael, is that there is a two-pronged approach to this.

01:52:16.000 You first have to secure your own spiritual and your own moral and your own mental sovereignty.

01:52:22.000 And that, remember, is different for every person.

01:52:25.000 That's why I do not, you know, subscribe to A to Z, fix all, one-size-fits-all, you know, systems here.

01:52:31.000 This is a very individualistic study.

01:52:33.000 It's an individualistic work.

01:52:35.000 You have to use deconstructive models, just as much as you have to have Constructive models.

01:52:40.000 You have to study your enemy to know what weapons they're using and how they're employing it.

01:52:44.000 And it very much starts... See, I do never, I never separate any of this that we're talking about from spiritual activity.

01:52:52.000 It is all part of... Yeah, let me make a point here.

01:52:55.000 Let me make a point of your take on it, Michael.

01:52:57.000 Whenever I'm threatened by the new world order, whenever things seem dark, I cannot even look at my own children, other people's children, innocence, goodness, beauty, a green field, the sky, the stars.

01:53:06.000 And I know I'm part of something bigger, and I'm not trying to grasp and hold and be greedy, even with my own life.

01:53:12.000 And then with that, a great peace comes over me, and I realize that I'm on the path of goodness and righteousness, not that I'm perfect, and so there's no more fear, but it's the willingness to fight.

01:53:23.000 People say, oh, just don't be scared, go along with it.

01:53:25.000 That's the ultimate form of surrender to evil.

01:53:29.000 No, it is because I have love, and because I don't have fear, that I do stand up against evil.

01:53:34.000 Do you see the point I'm making?

01:53:37.000 I see it perfectly, and we owe a debt to all those individuals of the past.

01:53:41.000 This is one of my strong motives, is that we owe a debt to all those people, all those children, even of our own family lines, who suffered in the mines, who suffered in the factories, who lost hands, who were maimed, who starved, who fought... Stay there!

01:53:53.000 Start over!

01:53:54.000 We've got to come back to the full audience.

01:53:55.000 Here we go.

01:53:56.000 Man, I would go into overdrive right now, but I've got to take an interview with Tex Mars myself for his show.

01:54:08.000 I was on Man Cal this morning.

01:54:13.000 They say no rest for the wicked.

01:54:14.000 I'm not very wicked.

01:54:15.000 I don't get very much rest.

01:54:16.000 It's kind of the opposite.

01:54:18.000 Michael Massarian, I was bringing up standing up against evil, how that is empowering, how once you just love humanity, that I think that's a big part of the solution.

01:54:27.000 Just that mindset and idea, that truly turns loose of the fear, and then that empowers you, and you were making a key point.

01:54:34.000 Well, see, Michael needs to come to understand that before you can help another person, you must be strong in yourself.

01:54:41.000 And then from your model, pretty much like Alex, what you are walking an example of is by your model, people have the egalitarian right then to either do as you do or not to do as you do.

01:54:50.000 You know, you can't force anything down people's throats.

01:54:53.000 It's the example, it's the standard.

01:54:55.000 It's the standard, exactly.

01:54:56.000 And people who are sovereign within, who've understood that they can find their center, they can find their own inner truth.

01:55:02.000 And as I said, that's not one-size-fits-all.

01:55:04.000 It is not going to work on a social level where, you know, because again, that's regimentation.

01:55:07.000 That's the fascist model.

01:55:09.000 It's one-size-fits-all for all people, as we say, as we do, not as we act.

01:55:13.000 So the most important thing is to realize that, yeah, you've got to go within yourself, into the sanctity and the kingdom of your own being, you know, and find your own center.

01:55:21.000 And then from that place, in a total state of fearlessness and passion, take on the rival or the adversary, you know.

01:55:28.000 And like I often say in my work, When you are so strong, I mean this is pretty much borrowed from martial arts, when you are so inherently strong that your enemy cannot destroy you, then your enemy has lost.

01:55:38.000 You can't go after them using the tools that they've provided for you.

01:55:41.000 You can't enter into this duel with the swords and the guns that they have primed and offered you.

01:55:47.000 That has been tried in the past centuries and it hasn't worked.

01:55:49.000 We have not been able to overcome this tyrant, this Leviathan, for the reasons that you mentioned, because we've not been able to break the spell of their particular kind of sorcery.

01:55:58.000 That's absolutely right.

01:55:59.000 But sir, you were bringing up before the break, when we were coming out, I want the full audience to hear it, about we owe it to our ancestors and the enslavement they went through.

01:56:08.000 Finish that point.

01:56:09.000 Well this is what my particular motive is, is that even if a person is not humanitarian enough, Alex, To do it for the rest of humanity?

01:56:16.000 That's alright.

01:56:17.000 Do it at least for the dead within your own family.

01:56:19.000 The mothers, the grandparents, the grandfathers, the ancestors who died on the fields, who plowed, who suffered, who was murdered in wars.

01:56:26.000 Wars of ritual, wars of blood.

01:56:28.000 Right?

01:56:29.000 These are your own ancestors.

01:56:30.000 For goodness sake, people should be motivated to do it for your own lineage.

01:56:34.000 The people who cried into the night saying, why is this happening to us?

01:56:37.000 Why are we living in this month of abject poverty?

01:56:39.000 Why are our sons and daughters dying on the field of these tyrants?

01:56:42.000 So we should be motivated just by that.

01:56:44.000 The incredible sorrow, the glee the enemy had at ripping babies apart, and enslaving, and the nobles loving the people, starving beneath them.

01:56:54.000 The raw enjoyment of depriving people.

01:56:57.000 I can't imagine that, but that's the enemy's soul.

01:57:00.000 They love greed.

01:57:01.000 They love hurting you.

01:57:02.000 They are control freaks. 0.71

01:57:05.000 And they can't wait to find another more innocent.

01:57:08.000 You know, just like the 20 million Inca that were killed in South America.

01:57:11.000 Or the Irish Genocide.

01:57:13.000 Or the South African Genocide, you see.

01:57:15.000 Or the opening of the British East India Company and the terrible degradation they did in India. 0.96

01:57:20.000 They want to subjugate the entire world.

01:57:21.000 They're trying it now over there in Iraq and Iran.

01:57:24.000 You see, they don't look at you as an Iranian or as a... if you read their own works.

01:57:28.000 If people go to their own works and go to the works of these people like the Albert Pike... They look at you as cattle, as an animal, as an insect that is to be eradicated and their religion is viciously tearing you apart.

01:57:41.000 That's right.

01:57:41.000 I mean, how many jugglers can you fit into one room?

01:57:43.000 It doesn't matter, you see, who juggles what ball.

01:57:46.000 Islamic, Judaic, Christian, Conservative, Labour.

01:57:49.000 That is all for the juggling act of the world.

01:57:51.000 It doesn't mean a thing to these people.

01:57:53.000 They just look at you as basically fodder that can be ritually murdered whenever the time or the particular astrological...

01:57:59.000 Michael, let me set you up the next few weeks for a part two, okay?

Alex Jones Show - October 14, 2008

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