Alex Jones Show - 20081204_Thu_Alex

00:00:00.000 special between now and january or call today 1-800-453-2202 that's 1-800-453-2202 big brother mainstream media Government cover-ups.

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00:00:24.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:29.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:34.000 For the rest of this hour and the entirety of the next, we have two great guests on with us.

00:00:40.000 We're going to open the phones up at the end of the show, the last 30 minutes or so, for our guests joining us from Central America, down in Panama.

00:00:49.000 We're the founders of Natural Solutions Foundation.

00:00:52.000 I tried to go over both their bios, it would take all day, but Major General Albert N. Stubblebine, U.S.

00:00:59.000 Army retired, and of course he headed up the U.S.

00:01:03.000 Army's Electronic Research and Development Command, U.S.

00:01:05.000 Army's Intelligence and Security Command, he was the head of Army Special Forces, the head of Fort Bragg, He's worked with some of the biggest and some of the most secretive defense contractors.

00:01:17.000 He's been involved in some of the most secretive black op operations. 0.86

00:01:21.000 And after all these years of research, he's come to basically the same conclusion I have.

00:01:26.000 This is a giant world government set up to carry out eugenics. 0.99

00:01:29.000 An extermination of the majority of the public with ambient soft kill weapons being slowly and incrementally turned up and then institutionalizing and covering up through compartmentalization the deaths, the diseases, cancer, one in 33 having it now, one in two males, one in three females, diabetes up thousands of percentile, the media saying that poison, melamine in milk is good, saying that the deadly plastic chemicals are good as people die in mass,

00:01:57.000 Saying that GMO foods that sterilize the rats and mice are good for us as it sterilizes the public.

00:02:02.000 As sperm counts drop by more than eighty percent.

00:02:04.000 Women are infertile. 1.00

00:02:05.000 Just mass plagues all by design. 0.98

00:02:08.000 And they have studied it all.

00:02:09.000 They have really single-handedly, with the help of the folks that are members of their organization, helped shoot down a lot of takeovers by Codex Alimentarius.

00:02:18.000 They've been some of the sole reporters who at gunpoint have been Pushed out of public meetings that they've been guest of at the UN.

00:02:27.000 Just amazing stories.

00:02:28.000 So I wanted to have them on with us.

00:02:31.000 Major General Stubblebine and the Medical Director of HealthFreedomUSA.org.

00:02:37.000 And that is Rima E. Labo, MD, graduate of Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

00:02:44.000 And then it goes through all of her amazing research and all the great findings that she has made so we're honored to have both of these individuals husband and wife on with us for the balance of the show and let's go ahead and bring up general stubblebine because i didn't uh... last person i talked to was the doctor uh... general it's good to have you on with us here today well it is great to be here a lot is happening i just

00:03:10.000 Just a side issue before we get into the Codex Alimentarius, what you saw in Europe, and bring the doctor in.

00:03:16.000 Have you heard all the big announcements that they're going to abolish the National Guard?

00:03:19.000 I have all the documents here, but it's in the Washington Post.

00:03:22.000 And put them under NORTHCOM, and it says for civil insurrection And to work with the police, and they're deploying microwave guns in all the major cities to prepare, I guess, for war with the American people.

00:03:35.000 I had a retired JAG colonel on the first hour saying that this is unconstitutional.

00:03:42.000 What's your take on it, being the former head of special forces?

00:03:46.000 It's absolutely not constitutional.

00:03:50.000 And it bothers the hell out of me, if you really want to know.

00:03:55.000 Well, please elaborate, sir, because this is... I think it is horrible.

00:04:00.000 You know, we have a Constitution.

00:04:03.000 And what we've done with it is burn it, throw it away, and forget about it.

00:04:07.000 And it's wrong.

00:04:10.000 Now, when you were heading up the areas of the Army in the 70s and 80s and into the early 90s, or back in the 80s, I mean, back then, if they tried this with the Army then, what would you be saying if you were there today?

00:04:24.000 It'd be a revolt.

00:04:25.000 They would say, you can't do that.

00:04:28.000 It's not constitutional.

00:04:30.000 You cannot use the military, the army, or the navy, or the marines, or the air force, for civil, for civil actions.

00:04:44.000 It is not constitutional.

00:04:47.000 And that's exactly what we would have said then.

00:04:51.000 Why isn't it constitutional?

00:04:54.000 Why is it not constitutional?

00:04:56.000 Why did the founders, why did every other civilized nation say you don't have your army engaging the people?

00:05:02.000 Because the army is meant to kill people and break things and go after enemies.

00:05:06.000 I mean, why did the Romans 2,000 years ago say it's against the law for Caesar to bring the troops into Rome?

00:05:14.000 Because you didn't want somebody who could become then a dictator By using the army to quell any kind of unrest, any kind of disagreement, you didn't want this so-called ruler to take advantage of the power of the army, literally, to quell the populace.

00:05:42.000 That's the reason that they made it unconstitutional, because they knew, then, That it was not going to be correct if a ruler could become a dictator by using the military.

00:06:01.000 Very simple.

00:06:03.000 And that's what the Army War College and the Naval War College and all of them said for hundreds of years.

00:06:10.000 My dad's got a big book, The History of the Army, and right in there it has several chapters saying what you just said.

00:06:17.000 So the Army has to know what they're being told to do now is treason against the Constitution.

00:06:25.000 Well, you know, it's very interesting because at some level, or some levels, we apparently have sort of morphed into this position we're in.

00:06:41.000 Instead of, you know, we didn't just sort of jump into this thing one day and suddenly be there.

00:06:50.000 We've kind of oozed or morphed into this thing.

00:06:54.000 I don't know what the current commanders are thinking, but I cannot help but believe that they are very, very upset with some of the things that are going on.

00:07:06.000 I mean, you know, they brought this a unit out of Iraq.

00:07:10.000 They attached it to Northcom.

00:07:13.000 They said, oh, by the way, your primary mission is going to be to quell riots, to move people into detaining facilities, into what are going to be concentration to move people into detaining facilities, into what are going to And that was two months ago.

00:07:35.000 I can't believe that a commander who's being given that order doesn't say, what the hell is going on here?

00:07:46.000 That's right.

00:07:48.000 that was two months ago, 3000 troops, the third, uh, brigade.

00:07:52.000 Now they announced 20,000.

00:07:54.000 And then I read the fine print.

00:07:55.000 I was going to say all of the national guard.

00:07:57.000 Yeah.

00:07:58.000 And, and then I read deeper and it talks about Obama's civilian core of 1 million, Does that concern you, sir?

00:08:06.000 A one million man spy corps?

00:08:11.000 Or is that going to be a personal army?

00:08:14.000 Oh no, it's going to be outside the army, you're right.

00:08:16.000 Yes, they're saying it's going to be a federal domestic force.

00:08:21.000 I mean, how do people not recognize that that is... I mean, that is classic tyranny, is it not, sir?

00:08:28.000 Okay, how can you have your own army?

00:08:32.000 I mean, look at Blackwater.

00:08:34.000 You know, what is Blackwater?

00:08:36.000 Whose allegiance does Blackwater swear to?

00:08:41.000 To the Constitution?

00:08:43.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

00:08:46.000 Does it swear to Halliburton?

00:08:49.000 Well, I think so.

00:08:51.000 So how do you then have your own personal army and Then is there more than one personal army out there?

00:09:02.000 You know, Halliburton got one?

00:09:07.000 Obama have one?

00:09:09.000 Does McCain have one?

00:09:11.000 Who else has their own personal army?

00:09:14.000 And why?

00:09:16.000 You know, the big question is not do they do, but why do they have it?

00:09:20.000 Well, what's coming, Alex, what's coming that we don't know that each one of these individuals What is that in your educated opinion, General?

00:09:37.000 I think something is getting ready to happen, which is devastating.

00:09:41.000 And I don't know whether it's another false flag event like 9/11.

00:09:49.000 I don't know whether it's a avian flu pandemic.

00:09:59.000 I don't know.

00:09:59.000 I don't know the exact details.

00:10:04.000 What is coming?

00:10:06.000 You can bet your bottom dollar.

00:10:08.000 People in the power structure know that they need an army, their private army.

00:10:17.000 The people in the power structure know that they need train the regular army.

00:10:27.000 And you're saying you believe, they've been setting this up quietly for decades, as you know, it seems it's all coming to a head.

00:10:44.000 Are you saying, General, the evidence is showing it's going to be initiated, it's going to be staged?

00:10:54.000 It's very interesting because let me tell you how the intelligence works.

00:10:58.000 First of all, any single piece of information is nothing more than a dot.

00:11:04.000 That's all it is.

00:11:07.000 It is an unverified piece of information.

00:11:11.000 Then you get another unverified piece of information.

00:11:15.000 And a third unverified piece of information.

00:11:18.000 So I now have three dots.

00:11:19.000 And four dots.

00:11:21.000 Then when I get to a hundred dots, suddenly It's a picture that emerges out of the dots.

00:11:27.000 It's no longer a set of dots.

00:11:29.000 It's a picture that emerges.

00:11:32.000 Oh, by the way, even though each dot may or may not be fully substantiated, the mass of the dots that come out to create the picture, suddenly, you're sitting there looking at all these dots, and suddenly, out of this, it's like a 3D crossword, or a 3D It's a picture puzzle.

00:11:55.000 Exactly, that's how... Oh, amazing, General, stay there.

00:11:57.000 We're going to break and come back, and then shift into the health attack, what's happening, how we counter it.

00:12:02.000 But that's exactly how I described it myself earlier this week.

00:12:05.000 I'll study things for years, and then finally, it's like all the pieces come together.

00:12:09.000 It's exactly what you're saying.

00:12:11.000 I want to skip this break.

00:12:13.000 I want to skip this break, John.

00:12:17.000 General Stubblebine.

00:12:20.000 General Stubblebine.

00:12:22.000 You should be there.

00:12:23.000 I think he's handing the phone to Dr. Labo.

00:12:26.000 Dr. Labo?

00:12:28.000 Yeah, I'm here too.

00:12:29.000 Are you guys sharing the telephone again down there in Panama?

00:12:31.000 No, we have separate phones.

00:12:33.000 Okay, fantastic.

00:12:34.000 Listen, listen, we're on the internet live right now.

00:12:36.000 We're going to be back on the main AM and FM when we come back.

00:12:40.000 What do you guys both want to get into first?

00:12:42.000 What Codex Alimentarius is?

00:12:47.000 Recap of how you've been fighting it, what the latest meeting revealed, and then go through the catalog of things they're doing to us, and then how to counter it, and then how folks can go join your organization.

00:12:59.000 Get on your free mailing list?

00:13:00.000 We also want to have time, Alex, to talk about reclaiming the production of food and taking back your health by taking back your food, becoming an intensive farmer in your apartment or whatever, and we want to talk about the Panama Project.

00:13:19.000 Let me just briefly ask the General a question.

00:13:21.000 General, were you done with the statement about the dots, or do you want to briefly, when we come back, finish that and then get into all the other topics, or are you done?

00:13:29.000 All I want to do is just like you did, suddenly a picture emerges and you say, oh, truth dawns then.

00:13:37.000 And now what do you do with it?

00:13:38.000 You're stuck with this picture and you now have to You know, take the countermeasures against that.

00:13:48.000 I mean, you call it dots.

00:13:50.000 Now they're just announcing it.

00:13:51.000 I mean, they say this is for the American people.

00:13:54.000 They say they're going to use the army on us.

00:13:56.000 They say torture's good.

00:13:58.000 And it's psychological warfare.

00:14:01.000 I mean, you're an expert in this, but perhaps you can speak to this when we come back, too.

00:14:04.000 And then we're going to do a big turn with Dr. Labo.

00:14:07.000 We appreciate her being here.

00:14:09.000 Is that it seems they're throwing it in our face to kind of just shock us into acclimation when they go, we always said mercury was bad, now it's good for kids.

00:14:17.000 We always said melamine was bad, now we say it's good for kids.

00:14:21.000 You know, we always said that poison was bad, now it's good.

00:14:24.000 I mean, it's like they're wanting to reveal... This was predicted and this was delineated by George Orwell.

00:14:33.000 We know how this works.

00:14:36.000 He was a prescient genius who told us, they're following the Orwellian script.

00:14:41.000 They do it just as he said they would do it.

00:14:43.000 They twist meaning, they change reality, and if we're not alert and holding on to our reality, we become their pawn.

00:14:53.000 Absolutely.

00:14:55.000 One point, we're going live in one minute.

00:14:58.000 General Stubblebine's phone is a bit low.

00:14:58.000 Fabulous!

00:15:00.000 Yours is a bit hot.

00:15:02.000 And I know you're in another country, so I'm surprised by the quality we've got.

00:15:07.000 General Stubblebine, just speak up a little bit, sir, and then Dr. Labo, you might want to back off a bit.

00:15:13.000 But again, you guys are the best.

00:15:15.000 And I will plug each hour how folks get on your free mailing list and all the great information.

00:15:19.000 You've got it.

00:15:20.000 Fabulous.

00:15:21.000 You're the only person in the world that I'd ever agree to back off for.

00:15:26.000 But you are a little loud.

00:15:32.000 See, I've got it cranked way up so I can hear the General, and then when you talk, it's like, it's like the thunders.

00:15:39.000 How about this, Alex?

00:15:40.000 I'm holding the phone further away.

00:15:42.000 Does that help?

00:15:44.000 Yeah, it's a lot better.

00:15:47.000 We're going live in 20 seconds.

00:15:47.000 Here we go.

00:15:49.000 And we'll come back and have the general finish and then go back to you.

00:15:52.000 This is a short segment, a long one.

00:15:53.000 We have an 18-minute segment coming up, so you won't be interrupted after this one.

00:15:56.000 This is a short one.

00:15:57.000 one here we go guys back guarantee order nature's gem premium golden flax today at goldenflax.com golden flax.com or call 800-387-5516 that's 800-387-5516 free shipping included all right let's go right back to our guest general stubblebine if Finishing up the point about intelligence, a dot here, a dot there, and then overall, you get the clear picture.

00:16:25.000 Now it's not even dots, they're just throwing it in our face, admitting everything.

00:16:31.000 Finish up that thought, sir.

00:16:33.000 Well look, the first thing that, when you have the dots, and you know, it's nothing but a set of dots, and then suddenly, just suddenly, the entire picture just sort of is there in front of you and you said, Oh my God, I've had this information all along.

00:16:48.000 Bingo.

00:16:49.000 There it is.

00:16:50.000 Now I know.

00:16:51.000 The question then becomes, what do I do about it?

00:16:55.000 When I know what the picture is and I know it's horrific, what the heck do I do?

00:17:01.000 Do I just accept it?

00:17:02.000 Do I just sort of lay down and give up?

00:17:08.000 Or do I begin to resist?

00:17:11.000 Do I mount a resistance of some sort?

00:17:14.000 What do I do with this picture now that I know what it is?

00:17:17.000 And what's happening, Alex, unfortunately, and you mentioned it, what's happening is they're now saying, oh yes, by the way, we are going to destroy the Constitution.

00:17:29.000 We're not going to pay attention to the Constitution.

00:17:31.000 And oh, by the way, we are going to deploy army troops to quell any kind of resistance that you might put up.

00:17:41.000 And if you resist, you probably are going to go into a detainment camp somewhere.

00:17:47.000 Well, now that they're pronouncing it, now that they're saying it, again, what does the populace do?

00:17:55.000 I'll tell you what most of it is doing.

00:17:57.000 It's saying, whoa, back off, back off, back off.

00:18:02.000 I think I will be quiet. 0.79

00:18:04.000 I think I will just shut up and pay attention.

00:18:09.000 So you're saying they're openly announcing it to cause a chilling effect, and A, that's one question, and then B, I'm going to throw this in, they threaten Congress as you know, or if you don't we'll play the clip, Senator Inhofe admits it, others, with martial law they wouldn't pass the banker takeover, so this is the illegitimate government menacing the real government.

00:18:33.000 Go ahead.

00:18:35.000 That's exactly what's happening, and oh, by the way, what is happening with all of these announcements?

00:18:43.000 The introduction of fear.

00:18:46.000 Fear subdues.

00:18:49.000 And let me tell you, that's exactly where they're headed, because they're going to make it fearful for anybody to do anything in the way of resistance.

00:18:58.000 Period.

00:18:59.000 Well, is something wrong with me, then, or you?

00:19:01.000 All this does is make me angry and want to mount a resistance.

00:19:05.000 Well, may I jump in?

00:19:06.000 Yes, go ahead, Dr. I think what's happening is that you and General Pebblebine and I and the other patriots and freedom folks have not brushed their teeth with enough fluoride.

00:19:20.000 Fluoride, as I'm sure your listeners know, Alex, and as I know you know, was used initially in the Soviet gulag to make the political prisoners easy to deal with.

00:19:34.000 They became tractable, complacent.

00:19:37.000 It's a neurological toxin, and all this nonsense about tooth decay prevention and so on is just so much nonsense.

00:19:46.000 Fluoride is to subdue the populace, and at another time we can have a discussion.

00:19:52.000 Hold on, we've got an hour and a half coming up so we can get into that.

00:19:54.000 By the way, two years ago, the American Medical Association said, kids under six, don't give it to them, it's bad for your teeth.

00:20:00.000 So, for those that don't believe us, they admit it's not good for your teeth, it causes dental firosis, but you're a medical doctor.

00:20:07.000 So, I mean, certainly you can speak to that.

00:20:10.000 Absolutely.

00:20:11.000 But the point is that we have been poisoned, we have been subdued psychologically through the media.

00:20:18.000 We have been rendered fearful and we have been rendered apathetic by the toxins in our diet, by the microwaves, and by the toxic information or quote information that we've taken in.

00:20:32.000 It's having its effect.

00:20:34.000 This is a full-spectrum cocktail and then you find out they knew decades before and they deploy these as weapon systems against us, General.

00:20:45.000 Absolutely.

00:20:46.000 And guess what?

00:20:48.000 The food that is being degraded is being used as a weapon.

00:20:53.000 I mean, you know, it's not being touted right now as weaponized food, but that's exactly where they're going and that's exactly what's happening.

00:21:01.000 And so every bit of bite of food that you take in, if you allow them the privilege of eating the food that they would like you to eat, You know, if you don't eat organic food then you're going to get the GMO food, you're going to get all of the things that have been put into there that will impact your body.

00:21:26.000 And not impacted very well, from a health perspective.

00:21:31.000 And so the food is being weaponized.

00:21:34.000 We're going to come back and talk about that more with Major General Stubblebine and Dr. Levo.

00:21:34.000 Yes.

00:21:40.000 Now, folks, understand something.

00:21:42.000 The U.N. said in 1997 at the World Food Council in Beijing, they said, we are going to use food as a weapon.

00:21:48.000 And it's in the Royal Commission on Population, but not by the British they are. 0.76

00:21:51.000 So what the General and the Doctor are saying is the truth.

00:21:54.000 Amazing interview with General Stubblebine and Dr. Labo and their website.

00:21:59.000 We've got that up on screen at PrisonPlanet.tv.

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00:25:11.000 The entire configuration being designed by the global government.

00:25:37.000 Openly announced now.

00:25:38.000 There's no more denial.

00:25:40.000 Those of us who could see the dots years ago, decades ago, you laughed at us.

00:25:43.000 Now, it's not even dots.

00:25:45.000 They just took the mask right off.

00:25:47.000 And they said, we're coming straight on for humanity.

00:25:52.000 We don't have a choice.

00:25:53.000 We have to fight back in any way we can.

00:25:55.000 And I'm going to ask Major General Stubblebine and Dr. Labo, from their educated perspective, what we do in that fight.

00:26:04.000 But let's continue, for those that don't know, with some of the worst things.

00:26:07.000 Not just the melamine, but the plastics, with the estrogen mimicking, endocrine disruptors.

00:26:14.000 What the GMO foods are doing, sterilizing, what's being sprayed, the fluoride, the mercury, the arsenic being added by design, and not just fluoride, but all added to the water.

00:26:24.000 And where you see this all going, as they build up and they mass all of this against us, as they get private armies to protect their own systems, it's clear, as you said General, they're bringing in something hellish.

00:26:36.000 So both of you, you have the floor, just whatever you think is most important.

00:26:42.000 Well, let's start with the fact that every bite we take can either add to our health and our vitality or it can diminish our ability to protect ourselves through our immune system and through our regenerative capacity.

00:26:59.000 I'm a physician.

00:27:00.000 I have practiced drug-free medicine for the best part of 40 years.

00:27:04.000 So I'm very, very aware of what nutrition does.

00:27:09.000 And you've treated to interrupt royalty and heads of state.

00:27:14.000 But let me see your top position.

00:27:16.000 Go ahead.

00:27:18.000 And the reason that royalty, heads of state, people from all over the world came to see us in our practice was that when everything else that conventional medicine has to offer has failed, People seek the sensible alternatives, and I am, by the way, a physician who believes that the only place that pharmaceuticals have a reason to exist in medicine is in the emergency room.

00:27:47.000 Beyond that, virtually everything that a pharmaceutical does, dangerously, expensively, and with tremendous side effects, everything can be done by natural methods, by frequency medicine, by nutrition, By energy medicine and the reason I can say that so confidently is that throughout my entire career I have treated the most difficult patients that anybody can have in their practice.

00:28:15.000 People who were dying or unable to tolerate meds and in terrible trouble and they came to me and by and large they got well.

00:28:25.000 Not just symptom free which is all that allopathic medicine has to offer if it If it does that well, and usually it doesn't, but truly, radiantly, and in many cases, transcendently well, through giving the body, the heart, the mind, the spirit, what it needs to heal.

00:28:45.000 What it does not need is toxins.

00:28:48.000 If you are eating conventional American food, what we call the Standard American Diet, or SAD, you are already eating weaponized food.

00:28:58.000 I just published an article in one of our blog spots which you can get to by going to our main website healthfreedomusa.org and then clicking on the second button on the left which takes you to the Health Freedom blog.

00:29:14.000 I just published an article today on the fact that the food supply already contains food grown from seeds which have been irradiated not to prevent mold or bacteria from growing, not to sterilize it, but to induce wild mutations.

00:29:38.000 Nobody knows what the long-term results of those mutations will be, yet once a seed has developed a mutation that the seed scientists like, they mix it in the food supply and you're eating that mutated food.

00:29:55.000 That's different from genetic modification.

00:29:58.000 and if that isn't weaponizing food, And I don't know what is.

00:30:04.000 And they're open air.

00:30:04.000 Can you speak to this?

00:30:05.000 And then the General wants to come and pop in.

00:30:08.000 They are open air planting thousands of varieties of x-rayed and gamma-rayed and cross-species plant varieties which are cousins to all these other plants and it's openly jumping in to all the other crops.

00:30:23.000 That's on record.

00:30:24.000 Absolutely.

00:30:25.000 Absolutely.

00:30:26.000 And they are also Openly, the United States Department of Agriculture is in the process, in these last lame-duck disastrous days of deregulating everything in the world that the U.S.

00:30:38.000 government can, is in the process of essentially eliminating any controls or regulations on the outdoor growth and therefore the genetic mixing of genetically modified plants.

00:30:51.000 Dear God!

00:30:52.000 That means That, for instance, foods that are genetically altered to produce industrial chemicals or pharmaceuticals will be allowed to mix their DNA with everything else, not just other food crops of the same species, but food crops of other species and weeds, and they get into insects, and they get into animals that eat them that we eat.

00:31:18.000 We're talking about food Armageddon.

00:31:22.000 Now, That's not acceptable to me.

00:31:25.000 We're talking about intentionally despoiling the Earth.

00:31:29.000 And if anybody doubts that it's intentional, all they need to do is go to your data, Alex, or go to our data on our website, healthfreedomusa.org.

00:31:40.000 We have something called the GMO files in our Health Freedom blog, and there's an abundance of truly horrifying independent science.

00:31:50.000 This is designed to kill. 0.95

00:31:52.000 This is designed to maim. 0.99

00:31:53.000 This is designed to weaken the immune system.

00:31:56.000 And this is designed to cause infertility. 0.96

00:32:00.000 Now, if that's what you want for yourself, then that's fine.

00:32:04.000 Do nothing.

00:32:05.000 Continue to eat processed food.

00:32:07.000 Continue to be a person with a slave mentality and be amused by the deceit of the mainstream media.

00:32:16.000 Just to add a question here to both of you.

00:32:20.000 I've had Nobel Prize winning geneticists on, I've had top scientists, I mean these are people that were running multi-billion dollar companies, and they'll talk about how if you change one gene in a rat, or one gene in a tomato, or one gene in a pig, it randomly, you get the change you want, but it randomly changes thousands of other things and they admit That the German studies killing the honeybees with just one form of GMO corn that has a pesticide grown naturally in it so other bugs won't eat it but the honeybees will.

00:32:49.000 Then they feed us those pesticides that are secreted in the corn naturally as you know but for audience listening You know, they talk about global warming and climate change and world taxes.

00:33:00.000 That's a red herring to divert everybody off of all the genetic manipulation of the very biosphere of the planet.

00:33:07.000 I mean, when you say Armageddon, you're not kidding.

00:33:10.000 Already most of the... I'm not kidding.

00:33:13.000 Already most of the live oaks are dying in Texas.

00:33:15.000 The bees are all dying.

00:33:16.000 There's hardly any birds.

00:33:17.000 Everything's dying.

00:33:19.000 Go ahead.

00:33:21.000 I wouldn't call it Armageddon.

00:33:23.000 I would say that there's a war.

00:33:25.000 I mean, this is a war that we're in.

00:33:28.000 And as a war, you must take action.

00:33:33.000 You cannot, you cannot sit back and not do anything unless you want to be a slave. 0.57

00:33:40.000 Or dead.

00:33:41.000 Yeah, well, they're not even wanting to enslave us!

00:33:44.000 Choose. 0.98

00:33:45.000 Slave or dead.

00:33:46.000 Well, I think that in previous wars, the idea was to capture the population and Use it for your own purposes. 0.93

00:33:56.000 This war... But they were called slaves.

00:33:58.000 They were called serfs.

00:33:59.000 You're right.

00:34:00.000 They were called serfs.

00:34:01.000 This is genocide, though.

00:34:02.000 This war is a genocidal war.

00:34:05.000 There will be a few serfs, but with mechanized labor-saving devices, with machines, with cyborgs.

00:34:13.000 We don't need very many serfs.

00:34:16.000 What they are going to want to do, and we were told this by a head of state whom we were treating in our practice.

00:34:23.000 I mentioned this on The radio a couple of days ago with you, Alex.

00:34:26.000 This woman is a head of state, and she said that she had been raised to believe that the useless leaders of the earth, that's us, our children, our friends, our family, our loved ones, were consuming their, that's the master classes, non-renewable resources.

00:34:48.000 And I said, and therefore they had to be eliminated, and the time was coming When that would finally be accomplished.

00:34:54.000 This was in 2002.

00:34:57.000 I believe that we are now at that next phase and the tools have been put in place.

00:35:04.000 The fear is being marshaled, managed and very much manipulated to quell the populace and the genocidal weaponization of food, of vaccines, of Medicine has all been put in place to enact this final cleansing so that we do not use up their non-renewable resources.

00:35:33.000 Let me stop you there.

00:35:34.000 Then people say, well, they're destroying the Earth's biosphere in the name of saving it, but they say, what you read earlier is what the head of Sun Microsystems and others have said, the elite plan to kill the majority of us and then have a small group

00:35:47.000 With this whole technological system, this is the official UN plan, and I want the General to comment on it after you do, but my question here, that's why they're creating all the governmental seed banks, the ARCs, because they plan to release all these plagues, then quote, manage it, claiming they're fighting it, use that as the pretext to basically exterminate the majority of us, and then they think they're going to put the genie back in the bottle, but the geneticists and the engineers I talked to, they say it probably can't be put back in, so at the final equation,

00:36:17.000 They are completely insane, though they are intelligently insane, with kind of a dark logic or... General, what would you call that? 1.00

00:36:27.000 I call it stupid. 1.00

00:36:28.000 It's very simple. 1.00

00:36:34.000 You know, I'm a simple guy.

00:36:37.000 I think that it's crazy.

00:36:39.000 I mean, you know, food as a weapon is not new.

00:36:45.000 You know, did a scorched earth policy during the Civil War when he was down in Georgia.

00:36:53.000 He was trying to kill everybody inside, and he was killing the food. 0.52

00:36:59.000 He was going to kill the people. 0.87

00:37:00.000 I mean, that's what he did.

00:37:02.000 So this is not new in terms of a way of waging war, except that this now, instead of just burning everything, this has Genetically modified ingredients which they don't even have a clue which way they're going to jump, which way they're going to go.

00:37:25.000 We don't know except that we do know it is not going to be good.

00:37:30.000 For what we, for our bellies.

00:37:32.000 And they've done, and they've done, they've done, they've done tens of thousands of different ones, and some are going bad, some are going kind of sideways, none of it's good.

00:37:41.000 And some are going to make people infertile so that there won't be any kids. 0.99

00:37:45.000 Exactly.

00:37:46.000 I hope all of your listeners, Alex, know about the Austrian study that was released about ten days ago, which shows, pardon me?

00:37:56.000 Yeah, tell them about the mice.

00:37:59.000 Two types of corn, NK-603 and MON-810, are ubiquitously approved, even in Europe, for animal feed and for human consumption.

00:38:13.000 Now these corns, remember when food used to have names?

00:38:17.000 Well, once it starts to have numbers, you're in big trouble.

00:38:21.000 These patented types of corn cause infertility in mice.

00:38:28.000 We're not very different from mice.

00:38:30.000 If you'll notice, think about when your parents, or when you, if you're older than 20 or 30, started to have children.

00:38:40.000 You and your friends all became pregnant pretty much when you wanted to. 0.99

00:38:44.000 Well, at this point, the numbers of infertile couples, the number of people who have to go for fertility treatment or never do manage to become parents through biological means, The number of people who have huge reproductive problems is increasing rapidly, and if anybody thinks that's an accident, they really need to get their head out of the sand.

00:39:11.000 Doctor, as you know, that's why the main guinea pig they use is mice and rats, because biologically they found that mice, rats, and pigs, with cross-spectrum drugs and tests, are the closest to our metabolic system.

00:39:26.000 And so, conclusively, in a whole bunch of studies, it's sterilizing mammals that eat all sorts of GMO, and that's clearly being engineered into that.

00:39:36.000 Now you've mentioned this out of state, and I know for confidentiality reasons you can't get into it, but specifically, flesh it out, was there anything else she said you haven't told us?

00:39:47.000 Oh yes, she said a great deal that I haven't discussed.

00:39:51.000 One of the things that she did was bring her children to me, these were grown children, To find out whether they had been conditioned through mind control techniques as she believed that she had been.

00:40:03.000 Now remember, people say, well, she would know whether she was conditioned through mind control techniques.

00:40:09.000 No, not at all.

00:40:10.000 Because people have their awareness compartmentalized through the horrific processes that are used.

00:40:18.000 And many of the things that we call satanic or ritual abuse are in fact mind control programs that are disguised in a quasi-religion of Satanism, which of course is no religion at all, but is really a political program designed to produce the desired effect in human behavior.

00:40:41.000 Because after all, just as biology and life are not sacred to these people, so behavior and the essence of humanity that many people call the soul It's not sacred either.

00:40:55.000 And people may say, my God, have they no limit to what they will invade and destroy?

00:41:01.000 And the answer is no, they have no limit.

00:41:02.000 Well, I've studied the globalists for a long time and what you're saying is their religion is betrayal.

00:41:07.000 Their religion is defiling innocence and destroying beauty and hurting the order of things. 0.96

00:41:12.000 They want to remake creation in their own image.

00:41:16.000 General Stubblebine, I know it's all classified, you can't get into it, but you ran special forces.

00:41:20.000 You brought that up.

00:41:21.000 I know you know about a film with George Clooney coming out about you, but the point is, I know you can't get much into it, but you guys were into the whole mind power being studied in the Army.

00:41:30.000 You headed that up.

00:41:32.000 Did you guys in your research ever run into, back in that time, the dark stuff that Dr. Lebo was talking about?

00:41:39.000 One of the things that very interestingly came to me, I've got to go back into just a very quick bit of history.

00:41:55.000 When I took over the Intelligence and Security Command, which was my final man, I actually had under me all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world.

00:42:10.000 Every one of the Army's strategic intelligence forces belonged to me, not the tactical, just the strategic.

00:42:17.000 But during that period, our resources were going down and our requirements were going up.

00:42:22.000 So what I did was I put together a thing I called the High Performance Task Force.

00:42:27.000 Go out and find all of the things that would allow a person to work better, not longer, so that we could still meet our requirements.

00:42:40.000 Well, out of that came some very fascinating things. 0.90

00:42:45.000 One of which, and this is in this stupid book about staring at goats, one of that items was a thing which could be used if you stared at a goat, it could explode its heart. 0.98

00:43:03.000 Stay there, stay there General. 0.99

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00:46:12.000 Okay, General.

00:46:18.000 You were tasked with studying all this.

00:46:20.000 The Russians were studying it.

00:46:22.000 So there at Fort Bragg and other places, you had gotten up to the point about some of the experiments with animals.

00:46:31.000 Please continue, sir.

00:46:32.000 What I was talking about was that I had put together this high-performance task force to try to figure out how we could cope with the lack of resources and more requirements.

00:46:44.000 Many, many different kinds of things, you know, appeared on my desk.

00:46:48.000 One of which was this ability to use the mind to stare at an animal.

00:46:54.000 It doesn't need to be a goat, but an animal.

00:46:57.000 And with mental power, explode the heart.

00:47:02.000 Well, that was not my responsibility.

00:47:06.000 My responsibility, and I got to underscore this, Alex, my responsibility was the intelligent side of this thing.

00:47:15.000 Going out and exploding somebody's heart is the operational side.

00:47:19.000 That's the G3 instead of the G2 in military policy.

00:47:25.000 My responsibility was intelligence.

00:47:27.000 So when this thing appeared on my desk, and it did, there's no doubt about that, what I did was I took it to the Special Forces folks to say, here, this is a technology that you probably need I think so.

00:47:45.000 boy, this is one that you need to experiment with.

00:47:49.000 This is in your operational side of the house, not my intelligent side of the house.

00:47:54.000 So I literally took it down to Fort Bragg, I turned it over to them and said, "Here, you do with it what you want." Now, of course, what's happened out of all of that is that everybody says, "Well, I'm the guy that was doing it." Well, the answer is, no, I wasn't.

00:48:13.000 Did it work?

00:48:13.000 I mean is that classified?

00:48:14.000 brought to me it appeared to work I didn't play with it I just took it to the people who were responsible for using it or developing it or training their people to use it in the in the case of an emergency did it work I mean is that classified what's that did it work I don't know I really don't know Do I?

00:48:40.000 No.

00:48:41.000 Let me turn it a different way.

00:48:43.000 Do I believe it worked?

00:48:45.000 Yes.

00:48:46.000 Do I know that it worked?

00:48:48.000 No.

00:48:48.000 Because I never tried it myself and I never saw any goat that ended up dead.

00:48:56.000 However, I did see a number of testimonials that said that that worked.

00:49:02.000 From the Army?

00:49:04.000 Yep.

00:49:05.000 Special Forces said it was working.

00:49:06.000 They're not normally the type to just make things up internally, but I mean the point is, this has been on the TV, on mainstream TV, that the Russians believed all this, and is that, I know you can't get into intelligence, but I would imagine that's where this intelligence came from, so the Army tested it and tried to see if it was real.

00:49:24.000 Well, incidentally, I don't have any problem believing that it worked.

00:49:30.000 I do have, I cannot say that, Because I have no direct information.

00:49:36.000 I wasn't there, I didn't see it, I haven't seen one explode.

00:49:42.000 So, other than testimonials, I don't know capability.

00:49:49.000 But Bragg is saying it worked.

00:49:53.000 Yes.

00:49:54.000 Or at least that's my understanding, yes.

00:49:57.000 Well, we've kind of gotten off the track there, but that's interesting.

00:49:59.000 So that gets into what these elites believe and some of the things that's going on just in that little window that you saw into.

00:50:05.000 We're going to break and start the final hour.

00:50:06.000 I want to get into solutions with you guys and why you guys have moved to Panama.

00:50:12.000 You're trying to teach folks how to grow organically, then export the technology all over the world so people can get ready.

00:50:18.000 Dr. Labo has talked a lot about this.

00:50:21.000 You guys had a very successful practice in all sorts of organizations and foundations here in the U.S.

00:50:26.000 So I'll ask you when we get back in one minute or 70 seconds, technically, why you decided to go down to Panama.

00:50:32.000 Last time I talked to you a year ago or so, you guys were still coming back to the U.S.

00:50:35.000 some.

00:50:35.000 Now you're not.

00:50:36.000 And we've got to talk about what happened at the Codex Alimentarius meeting a few months ago that you covered in Europe as well.

00:50:43.000 So our amazing guest with us for one more hour straight ahead.

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00:52:10.000 All right, we're now into the final hour. we're now into the final hour.

00:52:29.000 This is a quick five-minute segment, but a long segment, coming up with both of our guests joining us today.

00:52:34.000 My website's InfoWars.com, of course, PrisonPlanet.com, JonesReport.com, their site's HealthFreedomUSA.org.

00:52:41.000 We're going to put that up on the screen.

00:52:43.000 Again, we're now live at PrisonPlanet.tv, been live for the last 55 minutes.

00:52:50.000 And we are talking to Major General Albert Burt N. Stubblebine, the third U.S.

00:52:56.000 You can read his bio at healthfreedomusa.org.

00:52:56.000 Army retired.

00:52:59.000 And his wife, Rima E. LeBeau, M.D., graduate of Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

00:53:06.000 There's so much to get into.

00:53:07.000 Perhaps we should get a report from you guys about going to Codex Alimentarius' U.N.

00:53:12.000 meeting and what it is and how they're trying to block our access.

00:53:15.000 Here's an example.

00:53:16.000 Toronto bans bottled water sales, but junk sodas remain legal.

00:53:21.000 That's natural news.

00:53:22.000 Mike Adams, that you guys work some with, another great guy.

00:53:26.000 Again, if they can ban bottled water, they can start banning other foods.

00:53:30.000 This is setting precedence.

00:53:31.000 Tell us what's going on with that.

00:53:34.000 Well, what's going on with that is that Codex Alimentarius is designed to make it impossible to get healthy food anywhere.

00:53:44.000 And the reason that we came to Panama is directly related to that.

00:53:48.000 And indeed, General Stubblebine and I have been met at gunpoint in a public meeting, a Codex Alimentarius Commission meeting, which is their annual big meeting where they ratify the harm that each of the committees is doing and move it forward and make it global policy.

00:54:06.000 We have been met at gunpoint.

00:54:10.000 Can I correct one thing?

00:54:12.000 The gun wasn't pointing at us.

00:54:14.000 The guns were actually in their holsters, but they did have guns.

00:54:17.000 That's what she's talking about when they came to get us.

00:54:21.000 And this is not something that other observers were treated to.

00:54:25.000 None.

00:54:26.000 None.

00:54:26.000 We were sequestered.

00:54:29.000 The main meeting room had about 180 empty seats and we were in the fourth floor gallery way up above with a guard at the door and anytime either one of us tried to go to the bathroom or to get lunch or whatever, we were followed by the guards.

00:54:46.000 and kept away from the delegates. 0.58

00:54:48.000 Well, how stupid, because we visit the delegates and the heads of state and the members of parliament in the developing world in their own countries, and there are no guards there yet, anyway, keeping us away. 0.99

00:54:58.000 Why do they need to keep us two ordinary unarmed citizens? 0.99

00:55:03.000 There were only a hundred extra seats, and we were told that there were no extra seats, so we had to go to the upper balcony.

00:55:11.000 But why did they choose to do that, to perpetrate that lie?

00:55:15.000 Well, obviously because we're being very, very effective.

00:55:18.000 Now, at the last Codex meeting that we attended, we were able to galvanize the African nations in their Their opposition to having GM food and feed brushed down their throats to kill them, to sterilize them, and so on, because they know the score.

00:55:39.000 Tragically, the last Codex meeting that we wanted to attend, which was in South Africa at the beginning of November, dealt very much with the issue of genetically modified food and toxins for babies and for sick people.

00:55:55.000 And when we have attended these meetings, We've been able to achieve striking positive forward movement like banning fluoride from formula for normal infants through our efforts at the same committee meeting in Thailand two years ago.

00:56:15.000 That was an incredible victory that was brought about by presenting science and by using the Coalition of the Unwilling that we have spent years creating at this last meeting of the same committee, the Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses, that was meeting in November in South Africa that I mentioned, we weren't there.

00:56:37.000 Why weren't we there?

00:56:39.000 Because the economic crisis had hit and our donations had plummeted to the point where we literally could not afford the airfare, we could not afford the hotel, we could not afford Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.

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00:57:00.000 We have no support.

00:57:01.000 Stay there.

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00:57:02.000 Stay there, doctor.

00:57:03.000 We've got a break.

00:57:04.000 We'll try to fix that right now because I've been tracking this and you guys are doing so much of the work.

00:57:04.000 Come back.

00:57:09.000 There's literally nobody going to these meetings and resisting and educating.

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01:00:14.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:00:20.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:00:24.000 All right, Dr. Rima Labo is our guest MD.

01:00:34.000 And, of course, Major General Albert Stubblebine, the former head of Army Special Forces and the head of Army Intelligence.

01:00:42.000 We're honored to have them both with us today.

01:00:45.000 You were continuing, Dr. Lebo, to walk through the fact that, yeah, I have books, videos, products, advertising that funds my operation, and I have to spend most of my time, and I'm not whining about it, trying to raise money just to then have the money, you know, to do the broadcast, do the websites, make the films.

01:01:01.000 And I understand this capitalization issue, and you guys have dropped everything the last Absolutely.

01:01:06.000 many years just to fight this, and you're now in Panama.

01:01:09.000 We'll get into that operation you're doing to try to get a truly sustainable community outside of this corrupt vortex.

01:01:17.000 But, yeah, tell folks about your free mailing list.

01:01:19.000 Tell folks if they want to donate what that money will go to.

01:01:23.000 Absolutely.

01:01:25.000 Bert and I closed our medical practice, which did supply us with an income and allowed us to have a lovely home and do the things that we enjoyed doing, skiing and dancing and so on.

01:01:41.000 Because this is a war and there is great evil afoot and those who stand by while evil is being perpetrated become perpetrators themselves.

01:01:52.000 That motivates you Alex, it motivates us.

01:01:54.000 So we closed our practice in late 2004.

01:01:58.000 And we created the Natural Solutions Foundation.

01:02:01.000 We created a website, healthfreedomusa.org, and then we applied the strategic and analytical skills that we used so successfully in our prior careers.

01:02:16.000 Bert is a general involved in strategic intelligence, and I as a physician treating cases where nothing else had worked.

01:02:24.000 And by the way, the official medical phrase When something hasn't worked is that, and you'll love this, the patient has failed therapy.

01:02:33.000 Not that therapy has failed the patient, but that the patient has failed therapy.

01:02:38.000 We closed that in order to take on this global health freedom problem.

01:02:44.000 And one of the things that I do very well as a diagnostician in medicine is look at the whole picture and find the basic underlying I don't know.

01:02:56.000 either an error of metabolism or a toxification or a genetic problem or whatever, and use that as my fulcrum, the point at which by applying the lever of intervention, I can get the greatest result.

01:03:12.000 So when we looked at this Codex Alimentarius genocide, weaponization of food, tyrannical despoilment of the environment, and so on, and the murder of the constitutional body politic in the United States and the murder of the constitutional body politic in the United States

01:03:32.000 I said, OK, what is the single central item here which has to be reclaimed, redefined and put back into the hands of people in order to fix the whole damn system? 0.71

01:03:47.000 And the answer is food. 0.81

01:03:50.000 Steel controls the world, food controls The world.

01:03:55.000 That is the system that is being used at the center of world domination.

01:04:01.000 I don't know whether other people have identified this crucial issue or not, but the fact is, that's our analysis.

01:04:08.000 And so, we created the International Decade of Nutrition, the IDN, as part of the work of the Natural Solutions Foundation.

01:04:20.000 And we said, we need to return the production of food To the people, to the farmers, so they can feed their community themselves and their social system can remain intact and not driven off their land by the multinational corporations, so that they go to the cities, become the abjectly poor, starve and die.

01:04:43.000 Uh, but instead become what they have always been, the people who essentially hold up society with food.

01:04:50.000 And that's what globalization, by the way, by design, as you know, Dr. Leibo and General Sullivan, for the audience that may not, Agenda 21, all of this states Force the people.

01:04:59.000 Take Mexico as a microcosm.

01:05:01.000 Over the last 30 years, they forced the indigenous people off their cornfields where they've been for thousands of years. 0.96

01:05:06.000 They forced them into Mexico City.

01:05:08.000 Now 35 million people.

01:05:09.000 Around a third of the children born with a syndrome where they have the tiny brain.

01:05:14.000 Zombies, basically.

01:05:15.000 They never even develop.

01:05:16.000 They die.

01:05:16.000 That's been a staging ground to move them to the United States to then drive down wages and break down The system here.

01:05:23.000 Globalization is a war against the middle class and against the poor by the elite.

01:05:29.000 And people need to go to your website, donate, support it.

01:05:32.000 I think it's very worthwhile.

01:05:34.000 But also spread the word about what you're doing and take the materials you've developed and deploy that with these natural systems of growing.

01:05:42.000 I mean, you've developed some wonderful systems.

01:05:45.000 So let's talk about some of those as well and then get General Stubblebine to chime in.

01:05:50.000 But please continue.

01:05:52.000 Let me suggest, thank you Alex, let me suggest that people go to our website and view a video there called Nutricide, N-U-T-R-I-C-I-D-E.

01:06:03.000 This is of extreme importance, and by the way Alex, we have to work out a way that you can carry this as part of the wonderful information that you disseminate.

01:06:13.000 This Nutricide talks about the fact that This food genocide came out of World War II when the Nazi genocide failed and it's tied intimately to the pharmaceutical industry.

01:06:26.000 To go on, we decided that we had to demonstrate that it was possible to end world hunger and therefore eliminate 90% of world disease.

01:06:37.000 And let me very quickly deal with the Overpopulation issue.

01:06:41.000 People say, yeah, but there really are too many people.

01:06:43.000 The surest, quickest, and most efficient way to bring down the birth rate on a voluntary basis and enhance the quality of life in the community is to educate women, not to sterilize men and women.

01:06:58.000 So we're talking about an alternative there.

01:07:01.000 Women need to be educated, and that works in every culture, whether it's Muslim or Christian or Atheist or whatever. 0.99

01:07:09.000 We decided that we needed to reclaim the production of food and demonstrate that it was possible to eliminate world hunger.

01:07:16.000 We have some astounding technologies which have absolutely no environmental downside, but can increase food production by up to 600%.

01:07:27.000 Can increase nutrient density in food by up to 600%.

01:07:33.000 That is simple to use.

01:07:35.000 You don't have to put in electricity.

01:07:37.000 You don't have to be able to read and write.

01:07:39.000 We're teaching farmers, or we intend to teach farmers, exactly how to do that.

01:07:44.000 At the same time, we intend to, by working with Father Godfrey Ntamadjou from Benin, Africa, create an educational system here in Panama where we can teach farmers how to farm without pollution and how to create their own energy supply Through methane digestion, using the waste of the farm, human waste, animal waste, and agricultural waste.

01:08:10.000 We don't need petroleum to have light, to have energy to run our cars.

01:08:17.000 Absolutely irrelevant.

01:08:20.000 Besides the fact that it's so damaging economically and environmentally, we can teach farmers how to bring that to their communities.

01:08:29.000 So we came to Panama, and we selected Panama for many, many reasons.

01:08:33.000 And by the way, the place on the planet most likely to weather this economic cataclysm that's been delivered to us and will get worse and worse, we believe, the place best suited for stability economically is Panama.

01:08:48.000 Very interesting.

01:08:50.000 At the same time, we did not choose the hot, sticky areas of Panama.

01:08:57.000 We chose the highlands of Panama, temperate, beautiful, bountiful, year-long, spring-like weather, which means we have a 365-day growing season, and the foundation, Natural Solutions Foundation, has been able to purchase a piece of land that currently has two houses and will house a natural medical center and a series of teaching facilities, and

01:09:26.000 Uh, a farm with five commercial greenhouses on it which will allow us to protect against Genetically modified genetic drift.

01:09:37.000 And by the way, as you know, a lot of other people are getting concerned and trying to do similar things.

01:09:42.000 People, not just from the alternative media, but instinctively are moving out to farms, moving out to homesteads, are getting heirloom seeds, are getting ready.

01:09:53.000 So I commend the research you're doing because that's going to help so many people.

01:09:57.000 So folks that want to find out more?

01:09:59.000 Absolutely.

01:10:00.000 They better be thinking about it, and better be taking action.

01:10:03.000 Not just thinking about it, they need to take action, Alex, because if they don't, they're going to be missing the food that they need to sustain themselves.

01:10:13.000 Well, General, what would... Not everybody can move to a farm, Alex.

01:10:16.000 Victory Gardens.

01:10:19.000 Absolutely.

01:10:20.000 Now, I don't know how many of your listeners remember the Victory Gardens, or have read about the Victory Gardens of World War II, but in order to Um, save petroleum in order to save labor in order to, um, allow people to continue to work in the, um, uh, in the industries that were producing the war machine.

01:10:41.000 Um, people were told that they needed to grow their own food and that would help speed the victory against the enemy, the Germans and the Japanese.

01:10:50.000 And indeed people did grow their own food.

01:10:52.000 They created what were called victory gardens and they remembered again, Even urbanized people remembered again how to grow their own food.

01:11:01.000 Well, we need Victory Gardens on steroids. 1.00

01:11:04.000 And it's also fun.

01:11:05.000 I'll tell you what's happening in Austin.

01:11:06.000 A lot of people are going out to pieces of property, two, three, four acres and just growing masses of food.

01:11:13.000 I know one fellow from his grandparents gave him, I think it's like 20 acres, the middle of town, and he's got a huge garden there with two growing seasons a year.

01:11:22.000 And so, absolutely, this is what humans are designed to do.

01:11:25.000 So I hope folks will visit healthfreedomusa.org.

01:11:28.000 They can sign up for your news alerts and information, they can get the videos and materials there on the site, and that will certainly support them.

01:11:37.000 We invite people to come visit.

01:11:39.000 We invite people to come learn because we're going to be teaching urban people how to grow enough food to feed a family of four in four feet of square foot space.

01:11:51.000 Four square feet can feed a family of four fresh vegetables for an entire year with virtually no cost.

01:11:59.000 You can do that in your apartment with a couple of grow lights.

01:12:02.000 This is something that every single person can do.

01:12:04.000 We'll be launching a new newsletter.

01:12:06.000 Okay, stay there.

01:12:07.000 We've got a break.

01:12:09.000 And in fact, we'll probably just skip this break, but here we go.

01:12:13.000 Okay, I'm going to go ahead and skip this break, John.

01:12:17.000 For the internet only audience.

01:12:19.000 Dr. Labo and General Stubblebine, we're going to be back to the full audience in a couple minutes.

01:12:22.000 I want to now shift gears, and I understand getting prepared, getting ready is the way to go, but obviously you know videos are the way to really educate the whole world who can't come to Panama, and I know you guys have produced some great documentaries and talks.

01:12:36.000 Are you planning to make some videos about what you're showing and doing down there?

01:12:41.000 You bet.

01:12:42.000 And as a matter of fact, if you want to co-op that one, if you want to collaborate on that, Alex, I'd be thrilled.

01:12:49.000 Well, I'd love to.

01:12:50.000 And I'm always pinned down here, putting out a million different fires.

01:12:53.000 But, you know, I wouldn't mind coming down and seeing your operation in Panama.

01:12:56.000 I've never... We'd love to have you.

01:12:59.000 I've been down to Central America, but I've never been to Panama.

01:13:02.000 So... We'd love to have you, Alex.

01:13:04.000 Absolutely.

01:13:06.000 Well, what I'll do then is I'll certainly try to figure out some time to get down there before everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

01:13:11.000 You know, I envy you guys being up there in the mountain rainforest, because I'm right here in the... Beautiful.

01:13:21.000 I bet it is magnificent.

01:13:23.000 The facility here is almost beyond imagining.

01:13:26.000 You stick anything in the ground and it flourishes.

01:13:30.000 Unfortunately, even though it's illegal in Panama, the government of Panama is releasing genetically modified organisms at a ferocious cost.

01:13:39.000 I have compiled a dossier on that and have presented it to a number of people that I thought might be able to do something about it.

01:13:45.000 That is my next question.

01:13:48.000 We'll be back in two minutes.

01:13:49.000 I want to get into that area because I was going to ask you about Brazil and Panama and Africa and even in the U.S.

01:13:56.000 and Canada.

01:13:57.000 They've caught them.

01:13:58.000 This has been in major news, as you know, for the audience, where Companies are putting their seeds out, planting their test fields next to major farming growth belts of similar crops to contaminate everything.

01:14:12.000 And I want to talk about that agenda.

01:14:14.000 And General Stubblebine can speak to this.

01:14:15.000 Take Iraq. 0.99

01:14:18.000 One of the first things they did was make the Iraqis only take GMO crops. 0.99

01:14:23.000 That's right.

01:14:24.000 Exactly right.

01:14:27.000 I recall it's in their constitution that that's the only thing they can use.

01:14:33.000 Reading the IMF and World Bank documents, the UN Biological Diversity Assessments and others, they admit this is a weapon.

01:14:39.000 This isn't even denied.

01:14:41.000 And so it's all about destroying these ancient cultures, these ancient varieties, making these countries dependent when only GMO is in their country. 0.79

01:14:49.000 So, and I know you guys know this better than I do, but for the audience, some may not know it, let's walk through What they're doing in Iraq, what they're doing in Africa, what you've caught them doing in Panama.

01:14:59.000 I know in Brazil, it's super illegal, but they go in spending money to contaminate things and why that's so important. 1.00

01:15:07.000 We'll be back in one minute, okay?

01:15:09.000 Here we go.

01:15:10.000 I'm Steve Shank.

01:15:14.000 For the past several months, folks have constantly asked me to give them the date as to when they should be finished stocking up on food.

01:15:21.000 We've been so beaten up by stock market banking, housing and unemployment crashes that we're desensitized and frozen inactive like the frog being unknowingly cooked in gradually increasingly hot water.

01:15:31.000 Well, snap out of it.

01:15:32.000 We now have a deadline.

01:15:34.000 Joe Biden said it's going to happen.

01:15:36.000 Former Secretary of State Colin Powell went on CBS Meet the Press and pointed to about January 22nd as the time a major international incident would force the new president to make unpopular decisions.

01:15:48.000 Well, I take the general at his word and my best advice is to have your food in your possession prior to the inauguration.

01:15:54.000 Contact eFoodsDirect.com for your supplies prior to this deadline for disaster.

01:15:59.000 Ask yourself, is it better to have too much too soon or too little too late?

01:16:04.000 Call 800-409-5633 or on the web, efoodsdirect.com.

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01:16:43.000 Got about 40 minutes left with our guest.

01:16:47.000 I guess 36 minutes would be technical.

01:16:49.000 I want to take a few calls for our guests, specifically on Codex Alimentaria, specifically on GMO, the poisons, the toxins in the food, coming up in the next final segments at 1-800-259-9231.

01:17:03.000 Next on my list, I had Iraq forcing them in their constitution to only grow GMO. 0.99

01:17:08.000 I mean, that's tyranny right there.

01:17:10.000 Even if GMO was quote, good, why make them only buy it from Monsanto?

01:17:15.000 Well, in Iraq, they couldn't even save their native seeds. 0.81

01:17:16.000 in take over these ancient cultures this is a weaponized system uh...

01:17:22.000 general stubblebine speak to iraq and then dr labo has been exposing just in panama how the international for coming in at great expense to literally contaminate things with this even when it's illegal in iraq they they couldn't even say their their uh...

01:17:38.000 native seeds in other words they they had to use the g_m_o_ I mean, it's absolutely crazy when you tell a person that it's illegal to save his seed from his last crop so that he can grow the next one.

01:17:52.000 But that's what they're doing.

01:17:54.000 And that's what they, then, they give them nothing but the GMO.

01:17:58.000 So now they're totally dependent upon the GMO.

01:18:01.000 The first year, a lot of times, they give it to them free.

01:18:04.000 The next year, of course, they have to pay for it, and of course they don't have enough money to pay for it, so now they're destitute and off their farm, and the large commercial outfits have taken over all of the little tiny farmers plots.

01:18:21.000 So, if you think that that isn't just excruciating to watch, and we have seen it in India over and over and over again, We're, I'm sure I haven't seen it in Iraq, but I am sure that it's happening in Iraq. 0.99

01:18:36.000 And I would not be a bit surprised if we don't see it in other parts of the world.

01:18:42.000 We have literally seen it in India.

01:18:45.000 Well, sir, if there's any question that they're diabolical, showing up with men and guns and saying, you can't plant your ancient varieties, you must buy GMO from us, and then it has Terminator genes, they can't get seeds, it's patented, they come in and, I mean, this is total tyranny.

01:19:03.000 Well, it's not crazy or evil, though.

01:19:04.000 I mean, out in the open, and then here it is.

01:19:07.000 Toronto bans bottled water sales citywide, but junk sodas remain legal.

01:19:11.000 Again, they want you drinking the fluoride water.

01:19:14.000 But again, the precedent of telling Canadians, and now San Francisco is trying it, you can't drink the water you want.

01:19:22.000 I mean, this is an incredible precedent of tyranny.

01:19:26.000 Yes.

01:19:30.000 I find it excruciatingly painful to have people allow that to occur.

01:19:40.000 If the government says that you can't drink the water, then somebody ought to say, Oh, no.

01:19:46.000 Not on my watch.

01:19:47.000 Let me jump in here.

01:19:49.000 Not only are we talking about the 128,000 Gujarati farmers who have killed themselves because of GMO cotton, directly because of GMO cotton.

01:19:59.000 And that's mainstream news.

01:20:00.000 Pardon me?

01:20:02.000 I mean, that's admitted, by the way. 0.93

01:20:03.000 They're just killing themselves.

01:20:04.000 Explain that.

01:20:04.000 What's happening in India?

01:20:07.000 What happens is that the GMO seed is given to the farmer.

01:20:12.000 Now, remember, farmers in most of the world are marginal people in terms of the money economy.

01:20:19.000 They're on the edge.

01:20:20.000 But they have no money.

01:20:22.000 And if their crop fails, they're in very big trouble.

01:20:26.000 So the GMO people come along, Monsanto comes along, and they give farmers GMO cotton.

01:20:32.000 And the operative word is give.

01:20:34.000 Give farmers GMO cotton seed for free the first year.

01:20:38.000 And they say, don't worry about it.

01:20:40.000 You'll pay me next year because this crop will resist drought.

01:20:44.000 It will prove to be much more productive.

01:20:47.000 You'll get more crop.

01:20:48.000 You'll be rich.

01:20:49.000 And you can pay me next year for this seed.

01:20:52.000 And the farmer says, oh, wonderful.

01:20:54.000 Plant the GMO crop, which requires more pesticide because they're... 1.00

01:21:00.000 The GMO crops have in large measure been created in order to consume high levels of pesticide, and the pesticides are like glyphosate, the second most toxic chemical, non-ionizing radiation chemical known to cause cancer.

01:21:18.000 And I saw mainline news, mainline news that these GMO cottons leach poison into you when you wear it.

01:21:26.000 Exactly, and we've run a whole series on Morgellons, which is a nightmare brought to you from above through the chemtrail spraying and from your clothing through the GMO modifications. 0.91

01:21:39.000 We're talking about an intolerably horrible disease.

01:21:42.000 You know what?

01:21:43.000 I'm going to skip this break so we have time here.

01:21:45.000 We're going to break about 20 seconds on the internet.

01:21:46.000 We'll still be live.

01:21:47.000 We're going to come back and take calls.

01:21:48.000 When we get back, I want to ask General Stubblebine about chemtrails, his expert opinion on that, as well as Dr. Labo.

01:21:54.000 But let's continue talking about how they're forcing the GMO into countries right now with our guest.

01:22:03.000 Okay, let's continue though and then let's come back with more gallons and back with chemtrails for the full audience.

01:22:07.000 We've got GMO cotton sales because it's not drought resistant.

01:22:13.000 The farmers go bankrupt because they have to keep using more and more pesticides and the second year they don't have the money to pay back nor do they have the money for the new crop seeds because GMO seeds can't be saved as General Stubblebine was saying and as you've said so many times on your program.

01:22:31.000 And now we have farmers who are destitute, and Monsanto quite happily kicks them off the land.

01:22:37.000 They migrate to the cities where their families have no hope whatsoever.

01:22:41.000 And if you've never seen abject poverty in Africa, in Ethiopia, specifically Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa, if you've never seen India, you have no concept what that means.

01:22:52.000 You're talking cities of 50 million, 20 million people, dead bodies laying around, human feces everywhere, hundreds of thousands of starving children.

01:23:00.000 It's unbelievable.

01:23:03.000 Let me say, Alex, that I will live for the rest of my days with an image of a starving Ethiopian woman making the international sign for feed me, bringing her fingers to her lips, staring at me with Absolutely dead hopeless eyes. 0.99

01:23:19.000 I will live with that graven in my consciousness.

01:23:22.000 For the rest of my life.

01:23:23.000 That is unnecessary.

01:23:25.000 And it's being brought about by globalization for the purposes of the globalizers who are fundamentally... And I wanted to explain that, and I've seen the documents on this and studies, Monsanto and others will lose money.

01:23:37.000 And they said, back in 99, the director, they said, we are trying to contaminate everything.

01:23:40.000 We are trying to take over.

01:23:42.000 And then the world will soon be contaminated with our GMO.

01:23:45.000 We have the patent.

01:23:46.000 And then we rule Earth.

01:23:47.000 And so they are, this is meant to just devastate.

01:23:50.000 This is eugenics. 0.99

01:23:51.000 Go ahead.

01:23:53.000 So, the food supply is devastated, the cotton supply, the cotton won't grow, the farmers are pushed off their land, Monsanto gets the land, and now we have 128,000 heads of families dying primarily by drinking a half a cup of the very pesticide that has bankrupted them.

01:24:17.000 We are talking about people, the face of humanity, being altered by this technology for its own purposes.

01:24:26.000 It is not necessary to eat this food.

01:24:30.000 It is not necessary to wear these products. 0.64

01:24:34.000 And for wicked, yuppies, self-centered people, you're not escaping it.

01:24:39.000 Yeah, I hear them laugh. 1.00

01:24:40.000 Yeah, get rid of them. 1.00

01:24:40.000 They're black. 1.00

01:24:41.000 They're Indian. 0.93

01:24:43.000 You are not immune. 0.95

01:24:44.000 This is all being done to you as a soft kill weapon.

01:24:47.000 It's just being done slower.

01:24:49.000 They haven't turned the ambient background up as high.

01:24:52.000 But farms and ranches, most of them are being lost.

01:24:54.000 I mean, most are gone.

01:24:56.000 Our society is now being imploded.

01:24:58.000 So now we, we, for being passive and not being involved and not fighting back like General Stubblebine was saying, we are now sowed the wind, we're going to reap the whirlwind.

01:25:08.000 And as we come back, finish up, Dr. Labo and General Stubblebine, on what you're seeing in Central America with them forcing it in.

01:25:16.000 Here we go.

01:25:21.000 Back live, got 27 minutes left.

01:25:23.000 I want to go to at least five of your calls.

01:25:25.000 Sean, Toby, Robert, Sherry and Dan.

01:25:28.000 From Washington to Illinois.

01:25:29.000 Maybe get a few foreign callers in there as well.

01:25:32.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen.

01:25:39.000 Let's try to compartmentalize the info now, get it out as fast as possible.

01:25:43.000 I want to go to calls here in just a few minutes with both of our guests.

01:25:49.000 Finishing up, how they force the GMO into countries, how it devastates the people. 0.58

01:25:55.000 Even where it's illegal, they run what I would call, what the news calls, intelligence operations to go in and secretly plant this stuff in research facilities.

01:26:04.000 Absolutely.

01:26:06.000 I want to say that there's a famine predicted by very, very intelligent folks looking at what's happening to our food supply.

01:26:14.000 I've posted an article on our Health Freedom blog called The Famine of 2009.

01:26:19.000 If anybody in America thinks that we're not reaping that whirlwind, as you said, wait until their plates are empty and there are food riots, because that's where we're going, unless we start growing our own.

01:26:30.000 And yes, Panama has been contaminated, Brazil, New Zealand was contaminated.

01:26:36.000 Even though it was a GMO-free zone by national decree, or by national law, the U.S.

01:26:43.000 shipped genetically modified corn and wheat to New Zealand for three years before they, quote, discovered the mistake, end quote.

01:26:53.000 Today, New Zealand is growing pharmaceutical cows whose milk and meat delivers drugs.

01:27:00.000 And they're now putting Cross-species pigs, mixing them, I just saw this in the BBC a few weeks ago, that have had human genetics added to them so the body parts that can be used, the valves and things, won't be rejected. 0.94

01:27:15.000 They're now saying it's safe for us to eat cloned food, milk from cloned cows, and to eat cows that are part human.

01:27:23.000 Speak to that, I mean the nightmare just goes on and on.

01:27:26.000 And then General Stubblebine chemtrails.

01:27:30.000 Well, the chemtrails are another phenomenon that's being used to, you know, essentially poison all of the folks that are going to be subjected to wherever the chemtrails finally, or the pieces of the chemtrails finally land.

01:27:47.000 These things, you can see them.

01:27:50.000 Normally, if you look up in the sky and you see an airplane and a little fume or a plum comes out of the rear, That normally is a contrail, and it disappears.

01:28:03.000 So you hold up your fingers about two inches, and that should disappear.

01:28:12.000 These are not contrails.

01:28:14.000 They are chemtrails, and they do not disappear.

01:28:18.000 The plane will fly all the way across from horizon to horizon, putting out these chemical toxins Uh, that, uh, essentially then fall to the ground, fall to the earth.

01:28:33.000 And what do you do?

01:28:34.000 You breathe them.

01:28:36.000 You breathe this stuff.

01:28:38.000 Furthermore, what they do is they crisscross.

01:28:41.000 So it looks like a, a, a tic-tac-toe up in the sky or a set of tic-tac-toes up in the sky.

01:28:48.000 And, uh, obviously what they're trying to do is to inundate an entire country or inundate an entire area.

01:28:57.000 with these toxic materials that you then breathe, you then get the diseases that they want you to get, and you die.

01:29:07.000 They're talking about deformed genetic material...

01:29:10.000 Partial red blood cell virus.

01:29:12.000 Aluminum.

01:29:12.000 Barium.

01:29:13.000 Beryllium.

01:29:14.000 Aluminum does not belong in your body.

01:29:17.000 Well, let me add just something briefly here, because it's so important.

01:29:21.000 I'm sure you guys know about this, but in case you don't, I've now learned in the last year, they call it, you know, these aerosol spraying programs, and hundreds of universities, Department of Energy and others, they admit, but they don't call it chemtrails, That it is secret programs for testing the weather and doing other things and to test global warming.

01:29:40.000 They admit that they are doing it now and the reason they had to do it was so many government people who were compartmentalized were asking and confirming and testing that they had to come out and admit and now it's in high school textbooks that oh yes they're spraying that as a sunscreen for the earth and claiming it's weather modification but I mean I'm just throwing that out.

01:30:03.000 Your take on that?

01:30:05.000 Absolutely.

01:30:06.000 That's what they tell you.

01:30:08.000 One of the reasons that we're in Panama is that there are no chemtrails.

01:30:13.000 Now, General Stubblebine and I have seen a chemtrail here in the highlands of Panama, but it was over Costa Rica.

01:30:20.000 There are no chemtrails in Panama.

01:30:23.000 And we believe that that's because of a very intentional decision that the elite have decided that there are going to be enclaves Where they foolishly think that they can separate the damage they're doing from the earth from where they live.

01:30:40.000 Yeah, why has Bush bought all this land in Paraguay?

01:30:42.000 Why is Dick Cheney moving to Dubai?

01:30:46.000 Is he moving to Dubai?

01:30:47.000 I missed that one.

01:30:47.000 Yeah, he bought a big house there and dumped his dollars.

01:30:50.000 Probably because there's no extradition.

01:30:54.000 But, in Paraguay, the piece of land that the Bush family bought, then a Bush bought for the family, is Situated directly over the world's largest freshwater aquifer.

01:31:07.000 And water is going to be another issue, because there's not going to be enough water to go around.

01:31:13.000 Good God, I want to go to some phone calls here.

01:31:18.000 When did you, you know, with all your training, all your study, when did it finally click that it, because you said this last time you were on a year ago, when did it finally click that it's eugenics?

01:31:27.000 When did you, I mean, when did you find, and then what was it like when all the intelligence, all the data finally went boom and popped out at you?

01:31:34.000 Well, I didn't notice it when I was on active duty because I was too busy believing, doing, and working.

01:31:44.000 You know, I really believed in what I was doing, so I wasn't paying any attention to the picture that I now see.

01:31:54.000 However, about two years ago, suddenly all of the dots, just like you and I were talking earlier, suddenly the dots don't just appear to be dots.

01:32:10.000 Suddenly there's a picture that just sort of jumps out of the screen and you hit you in the face and you say, Oh my God, Oh my God, what the hell is this?

01:32:20.000 And then you say, no, it can't be true.

01:32:23.000 And you try to make it go back into the screen and it won't.

01:32:26.000 And so it pops out again.

01:32:28.000 You say, all right, it's real.

01:32:32.000 Now, what do I do about it?

01:32:35.000 And so this occurred after I retired.

01:32:39.000 This sudden realization that all of the things that I believed in, all of the things that I fought for in my country, were a bunch of baloney.

01:32:53.000 I'd been sold a bill of goods and been duped.

01:32:59.000 Incidentally, it's very, very difficult to admit that you did not see it at the time, that you were duped, that you'd been taken for a ride.

01:33:09.000 And that all of this was going on even way back when.

01:33:15.000 Well, it's all compartmentalized.

01:33:17.000 1984.

01:33:18.000 Well, it's all compartmentalized.

01:33:19.000 I mean, it's all compartmentalized, sir, as you know, so you're certainly not guilty.

01:33:23.000 You would be guilty if you then figured it out and then didn't do something.

01:33:26.000 Let's jam in some final calls here for our amazing guest.

01:33:29.000 Sean, in Washington, you're on the air with Major General Stubblebine and Dr. Lebo.

01:33:35.000 Go ahead.

01:33:35.000 Is this General Albert Stubblebine III?

01:33:40.000 Yes, it is.

01:33:40.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:33:41.000 You got a question or comment?

01:33:43.000 Yeah, I want to ask him a question.

01:33:45.000 Were you the head of U.S.

01:33:46.000 Army Intelligence Instrum at Fort Meade in 1981-84 with General Acuno?

01:33:51.000 Were you his CO?

01:33:52.000 Were you also a director or head of Psychotechnology?

01:33:56.000 Hold on, sir.

01:33:56.000 Your phone's echoing.

01:33:57.000 Just talk slow so we can understand you.

01:34:00.000 I can't understand a word he says.

01:34:02.000 I heard something about, were you the director of intelligence?

01:34:05.000 And then, I mean, you have to talk clearly, sir.

01:34:07.000 Okay, I'll say again.

01:34:09.000 Were you the director of U.S.

01:34:11.000 Army Intelligence in SCOMP between 1981 and 1984 at Fort Meade, Maryland?

01:34:18.000 Yes.

01:34:20.000 Were you also a director or head of Psychotronics, Inc., which produced non-lethal psychotronic or developed weapons for the army?

01:34:32.000 Psychotronics?

01:34:33.000 No.

01:34:35.000 Did you also run the GOAT lab at Fort Bragg, North Carolina?

01:34:39.000 Well, he talked about that earlier.

01:34:40.000 No, he said he passed that information on.

01:34:42.000 No.

01:34:42.000 The answer to that is no.

01:34:46.000 I guess I just find this gentleman highly uncredible, given that you ran an army intelligence unit in the 80s, working with Michael Aquino, who started OTO, the Temple of Sacks.

01:35:00.000 It is run by satanic cults.

01:35:02.000 Okay, well, let's talk about Aquino, and then I'm going to let you go.

01:35:05.000 Did you work with that Aquino character?

01:35:08.000 The keynote?

01:35:09.000 I don't remember.

01:35:10.000 That doesn't ring a bell.

01:35:14.000 I mean, General Stubblebine was the commander of special forces and the commander of intelligence.

01:35:21.000 I was the commander of the Army Intelligence and Security Committee.

01:35:25.000 I was responsible for all of the army intelligence and intelligence forces around the world.

01:35:33.000 Yeah, and I had units all over the world.

01:35:36.000 all over the world.

01:35:37.000 Absolutely.

01:35:38.000 Well, look, the point is that you already talked about how John Ronson, who did write a book about me that wasn't true as well, he would twist it.

01:35:47.000 And then you're saying that his...

01:35:49.000 Very twisted.

01:35:50.000 I mean, he has me in there scared of werewolves, okay?

01:35:54.000 I mean, it's dark satire, and people that don't know that don't understand it.

01:35:58.000 Because I was like in Northern California in these big trees going, man, this is like something out of a 1930s werewolf movie.

01:36:04.000 Because, you know, there was fog like four feet deep, and it looked like those old movies.

01:36:08.000 And I thought that was always, you know, something that didn't exist.

01:36:12.000 And I was like, wow, you know, the fog's really, really thick here.

01:36:15.000 I've never seen fog this thick, like in a movie.

01:36:18.000 And in the book he has me scared in my hotel room of vampires and goblins.

01:36:24.000 So, it's not true.

01:36:26.000 General Stubblebine told you, without you even calling, that That this was passed across his desk and sent to Fort Bragg because I asked him about it.

01:36:35.000 And yes, they were looking into all that stuff.

01:36:37.000 And so, I don't think he was listening earlier.

01:36:40.000 And the other issue is the fruits are what are important.

01:36:43.000 They're warning people about GMO crops.

01:36:46.000 They're warning people about real things.

01:36:48.000 It's a red herring, but we let you ask your questions.

01:36:51.000 Toby, in Indiana.

01:36:52.000 Toby, you're on the air.

01:36:53.000 Go ahead.

01:36:55.000 Thanks for taking my call.

01:36:58.000 You kind of touched on, I was going to ask about the chemtrails.

01:37:01.000 I live here in Indiana, Indianapolis, and a day doesn't go by that I don't see dozens and dozens of chemtrails crisscrossing.

01:37:11.000 Do you know if those are military airplanes or commercial airplanes?

01:37:16.000 Some of all of the above.

01:37:18.000 All the above?

01:37:19.000 Yeah, they add a lot of it to the fuel.

01:37:20.000 Again, it's compartmentalized.

01:37:22.000 You've got three major wholesalers of it, so it's added there.

01:37:25.000 But it's not in all aircraft.

01:37:28.000 So, I mean, I was thinking about, you know, trying to grow some of my own food, but with that stuff being sprayed in the sky, it probably makes more sense to try to grow stuff indoors?

01:37:38.000 Do you put it in a greenhouse?

01:37:40.000 Do intensive farming indoors to create a community Greenhouse for your neighbors if you're not too far out in the country to have neighbors.

01:37:52.000 Do not, do not assume that just because the sun is shining your food is safe.

01:37:59.000 And if you live in a farming area, your food is contaminated with genetically modified material.

01:38:08.000 Whether you know it or not.

01:38:09.000 Yeah, it blows around.

01:38:10.000 I mean, let's explain.

01:38:12.000 Even the organic crops are having, you know, the same species but a different variety blow in and then plants aren't like a person where you've got one dad, one mom.

01:38:25.000 Doctor, you want to explain that briefly?

01:38:27.000 That plants take on the genetics of even other species?

01:38:30.000 I was about to talk about this when we got to the call.

01:38:35.000 Even organic food is allowed in the United States to have 10% genetically modified contamination.

01:38:43.000 In the rest of the world, it's either 0.9% or 1%, depending on the country.

01:38:48.000 So we're talking about one-tenth of the material that you eat when you're eating organic food being contaminated and still called organic.

01:38:58.000 It is absolutely essential that you start growing your own food.

01:39:02.000 Plants get contaminated not only by the same species as we used to think, but also by other species.

01:39:10.000 The genetic material mixes.

01:39:12.000 The results are absolutely not in your favor.

01:39:17.000 Alright, Toby, gotta jump.

01:39:18.000 Robert in Canada, go ahead.

01:39:19.000 I'm trying to go quick with these calls here.

01:39:21.000 Robert, go ahead.

01:39:21.000 You're on the air with our guest.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, I'm in Toronto.

01:39:25.000 This is a Northern Molecular comment.

01:39:29.000 Back in the 80s, and the doctor will understand this, I had an immune system collapse and I was going to die, according to my doctor of internal medicine, of some sort of lymphoma.

01:39:45.000 The Epstein-Barr and other viruses had activated and it was going chronic.

01:39:49.000 I contacted the Palo Alto Institute in California.

01:39:53.000 I talked with Pauling's people, Linus Pauling, who, by the way, had 480 honorary PhDs and two Nobel Prizes.

01:40:00.000 Correspondingly, they put me on to Cathcart, Dr. Cathcart in Philadelphia, and they said, if you take vitamin C at the appropriate doses three times a day, what will happen is you'll kill the virus.

01:40:12.000 Their claim was any virus, any acute virus, will be killed by vitamin C if it's used properly.

01:40:18.000 Now, that's what happened.

01:40:20.000 And this is the issue now with the Codex.

01:40:23.000 I've been taking 25 grams of C for 20, 22, 23 years, and if they cut off the supply of C, I've been told by physicians I'm in deep trouble.

01:40:36.000 I contacted my... I have pieces for you.

01:40:39.000 I've practiced orthomolecular medicine for many, many years, and what you say is right, although most people can't handle, the GI tract can't handle.

01:40:47.000 that dose of vitamin C.

01:40:49.000 So there's another...

01:40:49.000 Mine won't handle it.

01:40:51.000 No, it can only take one gram.

01:40:53.000 I can take 20 or more.

01:40:54.000 There's another product which we recommend.

01:40:59.000 It's nano-silver.

01:41:00.000 And we, the Natural Solutions Foundation, recommends a particular source, which you can find if you go to our website, healthfreedomusa.org.

01:41:13.000 Nano-silver will kill all pathogens against which it's been tested, currently 635 of them, including the H5N1 virus, which we believe to have been...

01:41:27.000 Modified, yeah.

01:41:29.000 And the HIV-supposed causal virus virus.

01:41:37.000 We're talking about an immensely important completely safe And totally universally applicable.

01:41:44.000 And that's why they're trying to restrict that, right here in Texas.

01:41:47.000 You see, essentially my comment... Hello? 0.98

01:41:50.000 Yeah, they're trying to kill you, sir.

01:41:52.000 Yeah, essentially my comment is about the suppression of orthomolecular solutions.

01:41:57.000 In my case, it worked.

01:41:59.000 The doctor who in fact supported me in this particular endeavor was quite severely chastised.

01:42:09.000 And she, there was some quite interesting political things that were happening 20 odd years ago.

01:42:14.000 So I wanted just to put that in.

01:42:16.000 I wanted to sort of show that, because there's so much talk about, you know, the suppression of medical solutions, orthomolecular and alternative medical solutions.

01:42:25.000 This is just one case.

01:42:27.000 And I thought I'd tell you about it.

01:42:28.000 But thanks for the information.

01:42:30.000 Thank you.

01:42:31.000 Appreciate it.

01:42:32.000 Natural medicine, but there's also a war against the people who are bringing you natural medicine, against physicians and non-physicians who are sharing this information and using these techniques.

01:42:43.000 An absolute war against them.

01:42:45.000 And the reason is because they work.

01:42:48.000 They work just like they work for you, they work for me, they work for Dr. Arema, they work for people who use them, and they, the people who are in this genocidal approach, We do not want something like that that works.

01:43:06.000 They would much rather give you GMO.

01:43:08.000 They'd much rather give you drugs. 0.90

01:43:10.000 Stay there, stay there, stay there.

01:43:11.000 Got a break.

01:43:11.000 Here we go.

01:43:12.000 Final segment.

01:43:13.000 Attention.

01:43:13.000 Skip this break, too.

01:43:15.000 We're on internet only.

01:43:16.000 I appreciate your call, Robert.

01:43:19.000 I'm going to talk to Sherry and Dan just for internet only, but that's tens of thousands live right now and hundreds of thousands within a day and millions within weeks.

01:43:25.000 That's the exponential power of the web.

01:43:27.000 That's why they're now moving.

01:43:29.000 I've got to do a whole show on this to attack the web.

01:43:31.000 They're openly announcing it.

01:43:32.000 They're shutting it down all over the place.

01:43:35.000 Definitely things are moving quicker than I'd even thought.

01:43:37.000 And I don't like that because I want more time to beat these people.

01:43:40.000 But let's take a few final calls and we'll come back live on air and say bye to our guest.

01:43:44.000 And let's not wait a year before we have General Stubblebine and Dr. Labo back on the show.

01:43:50.000 Let's go ahead and go to Sherry in Texas.

01:43:54.000 You're on the air.

01:43:55.000 Go ahead.

01:43:55.000 Hi.

01:43:56.000 Hi Alex.

01:43:58.000 I just had a question about chemtrails and their effect on humans.

01:44:06.000 I have a family member who has stage 3 breast cancer and she believes in chemtrails, finally.

01:44:12.000 I finally got pictures of them, video of them, showed them to her.

01:44:16.000 These are not contrails, Mom.

01:44:18.000 And, oh, well, there you go.

01:44:20.000 But she basically doesn't think that they're affecting anything and doesn't take any...

01:44:27.000 She doesn't believe in them because she doesn't understand them.

01:44:30.000 Well, let me just be clear.

01:44:31.000 The chemtrail phenomenon, it's a cocktail.

01:44:34.000 There's a bunch of different operations going on, and it's highly classified.

01:44:39.000 They're only admitting the weather modification portion of them, and so we don't know.

01:44:44.000 We need more research.

01:44:45.000 But I know this.

01:44:47.000 Until 1996, Trails were up there.

01:44:49.000 They formed at 30,000 feet or higher.

01:44:51.000 They were there for 30 seconds a minute.

01:44:53.000 Now they're there for two hours while I'm in the garden.

01:44:56.000 And then they start floating down.

01:44:59.000 But go ahead, Doctor.

01:45:01.000 Well, what I was going to say is if you Google Morgellons disease and Natural what I was going to say is if you Google Morgellons disease and Natural Solutions Foundation, if you Google both of those, you will find an article that I have written about chemtrails and Morgellons disease with

01:45:32.000 And there's also a forum, the Natural Solutions Foundation sponsors and hosts forums where people can talk to each other about specific issues, whether it's Thank you so much, Sherry.

01:45:42.000 or Morgellons disease or whatever.

01:45:45.000 And if you join that, you will find other people who will be able to tell you about chemtrails.

01:45:51.000 They're very, very dangerous.

01:45:53.000 The fact that your mom doesn't believe in them is kind of irrelevant.

01:45:56.000 Well, she believes.

01:45:57.000 She doesn't think they're bad.

01:45:58.000 Right.

01:46:00.000 Well, listen, we're out of time.

01:46:02.000 Thank you so much, Sherry.

01:46:03.000 I'm going to try to cram Dan in for the full audience.

01:46:05.000 Look, the government is taking foster children and testing pesticides on them until they died.

01:46:11.000 New York Daily News.

01:46:13.000 Believe!

01:46:13.000 The people running things are evil.

01:46:15.000 Here we go.

01:46:16.000 All right, real fast, because I've got to let my guests go, and I appreciate them joining us today.

01:46:30.000 I hope to have them back very soon.

01:46:32.000 Dan in Illinois, final caller for General Stubblebine, Major General Stubblebine, and Dr. Labo.

01:46:37.000 Go ahead.

01:46:38.000 Hey, Alex, I respect your show.

01:46:40.000 Thanks for taking my call.

01:46:42.000 Really quickly, I want to say my stepfather, I live here in Illinois, and he works in the agriculture business, and he does a lot of work with chemicals and fields.

01:46:50.000 That's how he's He supported my mother and all of us when I was a kid.

01:46:54.000 And recently I talked to him.

01:46:56.000 We don't have much of a relationship.

01:46:58.000 And we were in the bar the other night, and he mentioned to me that he works under Monsanto.

01:47:01.000 Now, I know a little bit about Monsanto and part of its agenda.

01:47:06.000 And the thing is, I want to bring it up to him, and I want to talk to him about it, but I don't want to hurt his pride because, you know, that's the job in the industry that he's in.

01:47:14.000 And maybe what's the best way that I could go about it?

01:47:16.000 I would give him studies about how it's sterilizing rats and say that, you know, studies show that'll do the same thing to humans.

01:47:23.000 I mean, do you want to be involved in something that's hurting people?

01:47:26.000 Because he's compartmentalized, and I would send him to InfoWars.com.

01:47:31.000 I would send him to the website of our guest today.

01:47:36.000 I mean, there's a lot of things that you can do like that.

01:47:39.000 Can I add something real quick?

01:47:41.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:47:43.000 I would suggest you tell him that you were listening to the show and you heard General Stubblebine, a man with a career of great luster, who realized that the forces that he was serving throughout his career were not what he understood them to be, and he had the courage to say,

01:48:04.000 I did what I did with a heart of purity, but the people I was working for lied to me, and now I need to spread the information about what's real.

01:48:15.000 Your dad can do the same.

01:48:17.000 Absolutely, and I'm sorry to say to Dan and Dr. Labo and General Stubblebine that we are just flat out of time, but I want to thank you both for spending time with us today, and I want everybody to visit the website healthfreedomusa.org, and we'll also put it up on the screen.

01:48:32.000 Absolutely, General Stubblebine was compartmentalized, I was compartmentalized, we all are in life, and the claims we're making are very serious.

01:48:39.000 You better check them out, folks.

01:48:41.000 General Stubblebine, Dr. Labo, thank you for joining us.

01:48:45.000 Thank you.

01:48:46.000 Very, very much.

01:48:47.000 Thank you, sir.

01:48:48.000 Thank you.

01:48:48.000 Keep up the good work.

01:48:49.000 I'll try, sir.

01:48:50.000 God bless you, and God bless you, too, Dr. Labo.

01:48:52.000 You guys take care.

01:48:53.000 Thank you, Alex.

01:48:55.000 Thank you.

01:48:55.000 Talk to you soon.

01:48:56.000 All right, we're out of time, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:50:40.000 Alright, we are out of time.

01:50:41.000 Rebroadcast with all the important guests we had on today.

01:50:45.000 Starts right now at InfoWars.com with Bob Chapman and others.

01:50:49.000 So be sure and stay with us.

Alex Jones Show - December 04, 2008

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