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00:00:04.000 Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:25.000 You don't see the federal government screaming bloody murder when Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.tv gets a distributed denial-of-service attack.

00:00:37.000 No, in fact, the Pentagon in the last two years, and Kurt Nimmo has written articles about this, linking to it, has talked about how they're going to attack websites in the U.S.

00:00:46.000 and also sent out fake bloggers To create disinformation.

00:00:50.000 We have Cass Sunstein at the White House saying the same thing.

00:00:57.000 And then some will say, well, if the government wanted to shut your site down, they'd just do it.

00:01:01.000 Well, a lot of this is just testing out their systems.

00:01:04.000 Was it a corporation that did it?

00:01:05.000 What is it we covered yesterday?

00:01:08.000 Was it the Greenland situation?

00:01:09.000 That we had the leader of the Member of Parliament who successfully got the referendum passed?

00:01:18.000 In Iceland, I always say Greenland, in Iceland, saying no to the banks fully raping them financially.

00:01:29.000 There's another article up on InfoWars.com, Brit Army of Spies, Private Army of Spies gets illegal snoop power, print that for me.

00:01:38.000 I've seen that this morning but I've forgotten to cover it.

00:01:44.000 We've got Dick Russell, co-author of Jesse Ventura's book, American Conspiracies, coming up in the next segment.

00:01:49.000 We've got Ventura on Friday.

00:01:51.000 Look at this.

00:01:52.000 California watchdog sees climate policy job losses.

00:01:55.000 Reuters.

00:01:58.000 Even the fake greenies taking over the economy, deciding who can have a factory, who can have jobs, admit it'll make them lose jobs. 1.00

00:02:07.000 California is likely to see modest job losses in the near term from its aggressive climate change policy due to higher energy costs and other factors the state independent legislative analyst office said.

00:02:21.000 And they're moving to put big taxes on supposed gas guzzlers, similar to what's in the London Telegraph today.

00:02:27.000 Fuel bills will pay for eco-upgrades.

00:02:29.000 More than 10,000 homes a week will be given eco-upgrades under government plans to make every home in Britain environmentally friendly.

00:02:37.000 That means charging you for water that's always been free there, because they have so much water in England.

00:02:42.000 And smart thermostats that control the inside of your house.

00:02:46.000 Austin Energy didn't ask us last year.

00:02:48.000 They just came on the side of the building and put it in.

00:02:49.000 They can control our thermostat, and they say they may.

00:02:52.000 California's already got these in place.

00:02:57.000 It's like a prisoner.

00:02:58.000 It's like I'm living in San Quentin or something.

00:03:00.000 If the government wants to control the thermostat, they can.

00:03:02.000 That's land of the free, home of the brave.

00:03:04.000 And oh, here's a government-funded laptop for your school kid.

00:03:07.000 We're gonna watch you at home.

00:03:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:09.000 Isn't that great?

00:03:11.000 Isn't that just special?

00:03:17.000 Here's another one.

00:03:17.000 Airport body scans breach rights, UN expert says.

00:03:21.000 I love how the UN always pushes this stuff, but now the other side of their mouth says they're against it.

00:03:25.000 A UN expert on Tuesday said the growing use of full body scanners in airport security was a breach of individual rights.

00:03:30.000 Well, yeah, British law says it breaks child porn laws. 0.93

00:03:33.000 Same thing in the US, but again, take a photo of your daughter in a bikini in the pool, you go to jail. 0.99

00:03:38.000 Not even illegal, you still go.

00:03:40.000 But you actually videotape people naked in their homes without a warrant, hey, that's no big deal.

00:03:44.000 And they just throw it in your face.

00:03:48.000 The use of full-body scanners, which reveals graphic details of the human body, including the most private parts of all, is a very easy violation of human rights.

00:03:57.000 Martin Shinanen, the UN Special Rapporteur of the Protection of Human Rights, said that in the fight against terrorism, scanners were both ineffective means of prevention and excessive intrusion into individual privacy.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, it doesn't even hide bombs.

00:04:14.000 But see, that's... it doesn't matter.

00:04:16.000 It makes Chirred off a lot of money, some. 0.96

00:04:21.000 And it goes on.

00:04:25.000 It goes on from there.

00:04:26.000 We're going to get back into that in the next hour in this article by Paul Joseph Watson at PrisonPlanet.com.

00:04:31.000 Perversion is fine so long as you're in a position of authority.

00:04:36.000 Also, China says they're unsure on global warming's cause, but they're going to stick to their new carbon taxes, which are non-existent, because they want the U.S. 0.51

00:04:44.000 to go ahead and put them in so all our jobs shut down.

00:04:50.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, breaking down the amazing new hardcover book.

00:04:55.000 Jesse Ventura with Dick Russell, American Conspiracies.

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00:08:12.000 We are one hour, eight minutes into this Wednesday edition, the 10th day of March 2010.

00:08:18.000 For the next 50 minutes or so in this hour, we're joined by the co-author of several of Jesse Ventura's books, Dick Russell.

00:08:27.000 He also wrote the bestseller, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:08:31.000 When I got an advance copy of this book a month ago, I was very impressed with it.

00:08:36.000 I think it's Ventura's best book, and I've read Don't Have Time to Bleed and I've also read, of course, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:08:43.000 I remember four years ago, giving Ventura my documentary films, he said, yeah, my son's already educated me some on this, but I'm very honored to be at least part of Ventura's latest education in reality.

00:08:58.000 I mean, he's always been a rebel, always questioned the system, an amazing individual.

00:09:03.000 So I don't want to say that Ventura's son and myself woke him up, but we certainly contributed to him having a crash course in The true reality that the establishment media calls conspiracy theory.

00:09:16.000 I mean, I remember 2002, I was saying Saddam didn't have WMDs, I was having former weapons inspectors on, former top CIA analyst on Iraq on, and the media was calling me and other guests conspiracy theorists.

00:09:31.000 And, I mean, here's an ABC News article, I was on Geraldo Rivera Saturday.

00:09:36.000 U.S.

00:09:36.000 military wanted to provoke war with Cuba.

00:09:38.000 Military drafted plans to terrorize U.S. 0.81

00:09:40.000 cities to provoke war with Cuba.

00:09:42.000 Staged terror attacks, staged shootings, bombings, hijacked jets by remote control.

00:09:47.000 And I held up the actual Operation Northwoods document.

00:09:50.000 In fact, give me a document cam shot on that, guys, for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

00:09:56.000 And I held up Northwoods, I held up ABC News, and Geraldo's co-host just said I was a conspiracy theorist.

00:10:01.000 She said, how dare you make these allegations?

00:10:03.000 These are not allegations.

00:10:05.000 Right here, I've got an Army Field Manual.

00:10:09.000 Army Field Manual, FM-31-20-3, How to Stage Terror Attacks.

00:10:12.000 How to stage terror attacks.

00:10:15.000 This was in use from 1994 to 2004.

00:10:18.000 Army field manual.

00:10:21.000 I mean, here's ABC News, staged terror attack plans.

00:10:25.000 But they don't care.

00:10:25.000 They just call it a conspiracy theory.

00:10:27.000 And I've been watching Ventura on the Today Show and on other programs.

00:10:32.000 We've got them posted up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, all those different videos.

00:10:38.000 And they always say, well, this is your opinion or this is your conspiracy theory.

00:10:41.000 And Ventura says, no.

00:10:43.000 I may speculate at the starting or the end of a chapter, but everything in here is government documents and provable information.

00:10:49.000 And it is an encyclopedia of, really, Ventura's research and Dick Russell's research as well.

00:10:55.000 Dick's been researching true reality for a long time.

00:10:59.000 So, I want to walk through some of the chapters, and for the rest of the hour, Dick Russell and the censorship by the Huffington Post, but I want to just add this book is available.

00:11:09.000 We bought 3,000 of these.

00:11:10.000 We've already sold 1,000.

00:11:12.000 And we just now started shipping it earlier in the week.

00:11:16.000 And you get a free DVD film, Loose Change Final Cut or Reflections and Warnings, free with the book.

00:11:23.000 No one can offer you that deal.

00:11:24.000 Because I want you to have this book and I also want to fund and expand our operation.

00:11:28.000 We're in an info war here.

00:11:29.000 You're our supply line supporting us.

00:11:32.000 It says the first not alone nut John Wilkes Booth, Chapter 2, the big money plot to overthrow FDR.

00:11:42.000 That was the Nazi takeover plan with George Bush Sr.' 's father. 0.50

00:11:45.000 Three, the Kennedy assassination, biggest cover-up of my lifetime.

00:11:49.000 Four, the assassination of Malcolm X. Five, the murder of Martin Luther King.

00:11:53.000 Six, the assassination of Robert Kennedy.

00:11:56.000 Seven, Watergate revisited, the CIA's war against Nixon.

00:12:00.000 Eight, the Jonestown Massacre.

00:12:02.000 Nine, October Surprise, the first stolen election.

00:12:05.000 Ten, your government dealing drugs.

00:12:08.000 Eleven, the stolen elections of 2000, 2004, and almost 08.

00:12:13.000 Twelve, what really happened on September 11th?

00:12:15.000 Thirteen, the Wall Street conspiracy.

00:12:17.000 Fourteen, the secret plan to end American democracy.

00:12:20.000 Epilogue, further reading notes.

00:12:22.000 This is Jesse Ventura's best book, in my opinion.

00:12:26.000 And we are very honored to have Dick Russell, co-author and researcher with Ventura, on with us.

00:12:32.000 Dick, good to have you here.

00:12:33.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:12:34.000 Good to be with you today.

00:12:37.000 Is this your favorite Ventura book?

00:12:40.000 Well, I really enjoyed working with him on the autobiography, the memoir of his years as governor and then what happened to After that, when he went to Harvard and was censored, basically taken off the air at MSNBC because he was, quote, too controversial.

00:12:56.000 I mean, that was a lot of fun, and that was the book that, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:13:00.000 But this one, American Conspiracies, is really close to my heart and his, and for many, many years I've been researching and saving material on these subjects and did some fresh interviews along with Jesse also for this book.

00:13:16.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm thrilled to have it out there, and he's masterful on TV and believes deeply, and we've got to get the truth out about a lot of the things that the government's been covering up for many, many years, and so it's great to have collaborated with him on this.

00:13:32.000 Well, Dick, this is a hardcore book.

00:13:34.000 I mean, I've read it now almost twice.

00:13:37.000 I've almost gone through it a second time, and I agree with the analysis in this book.

00:13:41.000 There's deep research here, because I've been researching this for 16 years, 14 on air, and, you know, I'm kind of one of the grand poobahs of Well, yeah, I mean, he is.

00:13:50.000 This whole, quote, genre, as the media would call it, it's really just investigating reality.

00:13:55.000 And I mean, you guys aren't pulling any punches here.

00:13:58.000 And we see Jesse Ventura getting more and more hardcore.

00:14:02.000 I mean, that's the only word.

00:14:03.000 Well, yeah, I mean, he is.

00:14:05.000 And it's a truth.

00:14:07.000 I mean, putting this book together, it was it was kind of scary to me.

00:14:11.000 I mean, the fact that when you look at the history of the last, you know, especially 40, 50 years, uh, really starting, uh, you know, with the CIA getting so much power in the fifties, but then with the Kennedy assassination on through, uh, these various events and you look at, uh, what's really been really been going on in, in the country leading up, you know, finally culminating with the, the years of George W. Bush and, and, uh, two stolen elections and nearly a third, and then the cover up around nine 11 and,

00:14:39.000 I mean, it is indeed heavy duty, and I know that Jesse told me at one point that his wife, Terri, was kind of scared by the whole thing.

00:14:50.000 But I feel like it's crucially important for the American people to take an alternative view, to realize that what we've been told all these years is not necessarily the accurate truth.

00:15:02.000 What we read in the history books, what the kids are being taught, and so it's time for It's time for this alternative picture to emerge and for people to start raising questions that they hadn't before.

00:15:16.000 Well, cutting right to the bone here, the establishment in literally hundreds of publications a week, and I'm sure you've noticed this Dick, is panicking.

00:15:25.000 They're saying these conspiracy people are taking over the whole culture.

00:15:30.000 It's crazy.

00:15:31.000 No one believes the mainstream media or the government anymore. 1.00

00:15:34.000 These people are nuts. 0.98

00:15:35.000 There's no world government. 1.00

00:15:37.000 There's no government drug dealing.

00:15:38.000 There's no lying about WMDs.

00:15:41.000 And they're only digging the hole deeper for themselves Well, yeah, I think that's true.

00:15:46.000 of reality anymore.

00:15:47.000 And so there's a total loss of confidence in the system, and the system is only resorting to more name-calling, and that old trick of calling us conspiracy theorists isn't working anymore.

00:15:59.000 Well, yeah, I think that's true.

00:16:01.000 I mean, starting with the Kennedy assassination, where, you know, you have all these...

00:16:05.000 The only books that are going to get reviewed by the establishment media are the ones that come out and say that, yeah, the Warren Commission was right and Oswald did it alone.

00:16:13.000 But the fact is, I think the last figure I saw was 75 to 90% of the American people don't believe that.

00:16:19.000 They know it was some kind of conspiracy.

00:16:21.000 And you start there with this terrible event that really changed the course of American history back in 1963, and you go on up to today.

00:16:29.000 And you know, the fact is, the public is getting wise to this.

00:16:33.000 And yet the media, of course, are going to continue, which are mostly corporate-owned, as I'm sure most of your listeners know, are going to continue to promulgate the fact, or not the fact, but promulgate the notion, the false notion, that none of these things have ever happened.

00:16:51.000 Now, did you work on this book in the U.S.

00:16:53.000 with Ventura, or did you do this down at the beach?

00:16:55.000 It seems he told me you were down there visiting with him in Mexico.

00:16:58.000 Yeah, well both.

00:17:01.000 Especially for our first book together, we did a lot of that in Mexico.

00:17:04.000 I have a place there, my friends do, that I stay in sometimes in the winter and was there for six months for the first book and we would meet every week and I would interview him and then transcribe the tapes and we put the book together like that.

00:17:18.000 For this book I did more of it in the U.S.

00:17:19.000 because this is where my files are and then he and I would communicate on the phone and I would go out to to Minneapolis, in this case that area where he lives, and we would go over things together.

00:17:30.000 When we were shooting conspiracy theory out in California, I came into the hotel and was checking in and Ventura came up behind me.

00:17:39.000 He was checking in at the same time.

00:17:41.000 And we were talking and he said, Alex, I just got back from Alaska.

00:17:46.000 My head is spinning.

00:17:47.000 This stuff just gets deeper and deeper.

00:17:49.000 And again, I mean, Ventura 30 years ago knew about the JFK situation.

00:17:54.000 So it's not like he's just now waking up.

00:17:56.000 But to see him opening up to the full research and really digging into it.

00:18:01.000 He told me that when he's down in Mexico, he on average reads Well, I guess that's true, of course. 1.00

00:18:13.000 You know, as he said, and I'm sure he'll tell you when you have mine later in the week, you know, what he wants is the fact that in 100 years from now, when people realize that there was an alternative view than what we're getting in the Orwellian history books.

00:18:30.000 And he's a very dedicated reader.

00:18:32.000 I mean, he does indeed study.

00:18:34.000 He's an extremely intelligent man.

00:18:36.000 He's a very creative thinker, clearly far beyond most people who've been in just the wrestling arena.

00:18:42.000 Otherwise, he would never have been elected governor of Minnesota.

00:18:44.000 And so he really does pay attention to these things, and I think it's making a real difference with putting his views out there.

00:18:57.000 Well, I have a variant on that, and that's what I told Texas Monthly in this month's issue at the end of the article.

00:19:03.000 I don't just want people in 100 years, and that's important.

00:19:06.000 I want people in 20 years, because we lay out just how illegitimate and unaccountable this power structure is globally, that as things get worse and worse, we put out an alternative view of what really happened, so that people understand the type of tyranny and corruption we're dealing with, so we have a chance to remove it.

00:19:24.000 Well, of course.

00:19:25.000 So do I. Otherwise, there's no reason to do the book really now.

00:19:28.000 I mean, you know, the book is hopefully going to catch the attention of a lot of people and make people think in a different way than maybe they did before they read it.

00:19:36.000 And sure, I'm hoping that that's true as we speak.

00:19:41.000 Dick Russell, co-author, researcher with Jesse Ventura on the new, already bestseller, American Conspiracies, number seven on the Amazon charts, but you want to get it at InfoWars.com as you get a free film with it.

00:19:54.000 I want everybody to read this book.

00:19:55.000 We'll be back and get into the book.

00:19:57.000 We'll ask Dick his favorite chapters of the most scary chapters in the book.

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00:24:09.000 Dick Russell, Jesse Ventura, New York Times bestselling author, American Conspiracies.

00:24:15.000 He's our guest.

00:24:16.000 I want to get into different chapters in the book with you, Dick, today, and I appreciate you spending time with us.

00:24:20.000 I know you're busy, but I was pretty... well, actually, I wasn't that shocked, but when you emailed us yesterday to let us know, and I appreciate you doing that, that the Huffington Post had sent the Ventura article into the Orwellian memory hole.

00:24:34.000 What happened there?

00:24:36.000 Yeah, it was a very bizarre, to me, very bizarre thing that happened.

00:24:39.000 The Huffington Post had asked for a series of pieces to run with excerpts from the book over the next couple of weeks, and the first one was fine.

00:24:49.000 It was about the whole drug situation, and of course Jesse has commented publicly that he'd like to see marijuana legalized, for example, and take care of a lot of the problems that we're seeing with big money and all of that.

00:25:06.000 What happened with the second piece?

00:25:07.000 The second piece was called, What Really Happened on September 11th?

00:25:12.000 And the intro to it was simply reporting the fact, and Jesse and I worked on this together, that while you didn't say anything about it in the mainstream media, there was this conference in San Francisco a couple weeks ago, where more than a thousand architects and engineers signed a petition demanding that Congress start a new investigation into the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 on September 11th.

00:25:34.000 Okay, and then it cuts to an excerpt from the book, just raising the question, you know, could there have been something other than those hijacked planes that brought down the towers, and could there have been controlled demolition involved?

00:25:46.000 Okay, so this goes up on the Huffington Post yesterday morning on the front section.

00:25:54.000 Picture me and Jesse, and then suddenly later in the morning it's moved to the back.

00:25:59.000 And I went to check it, I don't know, around 11 o'clock in the morning yesterday, and there was this disclaimer, and it said, Editor's note, the Huffington Post editorial policy laid out in our blogger guidelines prohibits the promotion and promulgation of conspiracy theories, including those about 9-11.

00:26:15.000 As such, we have removed this post.

00:26:16.000 So all that was left were the 65 comments that had already come in from people in response to it.

00:26:23.000 And, you know, again, it really stunned me and made me think, wow, the Huffington Post, I mean, I admire Arianna Huffington and generally what they do with this.

00:26:33.000 And even the, you know, this internet blog is suddenly, who's talking to these people?

00:26:37.000 Is this order coming down from on high or what's really going on?

00:26:42.000 So Mark Crispin Miller put out the piece and, you know, got into the fact of what had happened, but I was really shocked by it.

00:26:51.000 And it just makes you wonder, how far does all this go?

00:26:55.000 I mean, you've got the mainstream media, which won't even cover any of this stuff, certainly will not review the book, and then this happens on the Huffington Post.

00:27:02.000 I mean, what do you think?

00:27:03.000 Well, there are peer-reviewed, as you know, Dick, journals of scientists, of physicists going over Building 7's collapse, Neurology, NIST has had to admit, after years of denying it, it was free fall.

00:27:16.000 They say thermal expansion.

00:27:18.000 They don't know why this happened.

00:27:20.000 No other steel buildings ever did this.

00:27:22.000 You have a thousand architects and engineers in an international web telecast meeting to put on their evidence.

00:27:29.000 You have, depending on how you look at the number two or number three guy in the Japanese government, right under the president of the Diet, who we've had on before, being demonized in the Washington Post.

00:27:40.000 Right.

00:27:41.000 You have former German Defense Minister Andres von Bülow saying clearly this was a staged event.

00:27:47.000 And, uh, you have all these questions, they can't just come out and say that, oh, it's a conspiracy theory, where, depending on the poll, 36 to 84% in scientific polls, it varies widely, don't believe the official story, and you have 6 of the 10 9-11 commissioners saying that there was a lot of deception and cover-up that was going on.

00:28:09.000 Well, yeah.

00:28:10.000 The 9-11 Commission, I think, has been shown, even in a recent book by this guy, Farmer, who was part of it, that, you know, there's a huge cover-up on the level of the Warren Commission, if not worse.

00:28:19.000 And, you know, that they would only examine the evidence that led to the conclusion that they had already preconceived, and that the Bush administration had appointed Zelikow to run it, who was, you know, one of their people.

00:28:33.000 I mean, you know, what's going on?

00:28:36.000 I mean, if you think about it, to say that the 9-11 attacks were done by bin Laden and these 19 members of al-Qaeda, isn't that a conspiracy theory?

00:28:47.000 I mean, weren't Bush and Cheney putting out a conspiracy theory?

00:28:50.000 Really, I mean, it just makes no sense to me that the Huffington Post would react this way.

00:28:56.000 I have never in eight years of 9-11 Truth seen the media demonizing 9-11 Truth, spending more time on 9-11 Truth like they are now, to the point that I said in the last three months I believe they're going to stage attacks on government buildings, and that's in Northwoods.

00:29:12.000 Fake shootings and try to demonize 9-11 truth because they kept saying 9-11 truth is violent and we've never been violent and I saw them getting the public ready for it and so voila it happens but when we come back I want to ask you Dick Russell why is the system so scared of 9-11 truth and asking questions generally then I want to walk through some of the chapters in the book and ask you what you think The best chapters are the most informative or the most well-documented chapters are in the book.

00:29:41.000 He is the co-author of two books with Jesse Ventura and his latest is American Conspiracies.

00:29:48.000 He's Dick Russell joining us now.

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00:33:34.000 I saw a Nightline special the other evening demonizing 9-11 truth.

00:33:40.000 And they said 9-11 truthers claim that the 9-11 Commission says that there were questions, but that's not true.

00:33:47.000 And they cut to Lee Hamilton saying, no, it was quite conclusive, everything.

00:33:52.000 Total lie!

00:33:53.000 Six of the ten are in newspapers, have written books.

00:33:56.000 Farmer, one of the head lawyers, says it was all a fraud.

00:33:59.000 The Pentagon was, quote, in a criminal cover-up, that there should be criminal investigations.

00:34:04.000 That's in the Washington Post. 1.00

00:34:05.000 But Nightline thinks you're so stupid. 1.00

00:34:09.000 That they sit there and deceive you, and then they showed a clip from American Conspiracy's author Jesse Ventura on Conspiracy Theory, his TV show, number one on cable. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Above all the major news shows on all the other cable shows except for Fox.

00:34:28.000 Number one news show on TruTV.

00:34:32.000 Number one above all the networks except for Fox.

00:34:34.000 Really number two overall but number one for a new show.

00:34:37.000 Out of the gates and maybe Ventura will have news for us on the TV show whether it's been picked up.

00:34:42.000 I mean I know but I'm not going to say.

00:34:43.000 He probably won't say so we'll just leave it till We'll leave the good news or the bad news, whatever the news is, for the future.

00:34:52.000 But that's why the system is losing so much credibility, because many Americans have read 9-11 commissioners saying there was a cover-up, there were lies.

00:35:02.000 Dick, I mean, doesn't the system understand what they're doing to themselves with this type of continued deceit?

00:35:08.000 And in the piece, they demonized Ventura, saying, these conspiracy theories are getting so popular, even Jesse Ventura's doing it! 0.67

00:35:17.000 Well, you know... Yes, sir.

00:35:20.000 It doesn't surprise me.

00:35:22.000 I mean... You gotta figure that... You know, the media... My phone seems to be losing its juice here. 0.96

00:35:31.000 Yeah, I can hear you, Dick.

00:35:35.000 Do you have a landline you can pick up? 0.78

00:35:39.000 Let me... This is the only landline I've got.

00:35:44.000 Alex, if you call me back in...

00:35:49.000 I'm going to put you on hold and let you handle it with my producers.

00:35:55.000 That's why when I get set up to be a guest on Coast to Coast AM or something, even though I've been going on for five years, six years, they will say, you're on a landline, correct?

00:36:04.000 And you're on a...

00:36:08.000 Not a cordless, because number one, cordlesses don't have as good audio, and they run out on you on air.

00:36:14.000 So that's a 101 that we ask guests, and then we will avert many of these problems.

00:36:21.000 But regardless, it's technology, and this is just what goes on.

00:36:26.000 Seems like phone quality and electronics quality just keeps going down and down and down as a society.

00:36:35.000 Let me go ahead, since we're doing this now, And, uh, shift gears into some other subjects.

00:36:43.000 Jesse Ventura, again, will be joining us for a full hour off a hard line, uh, from his home in Minnesota on Friday.

00:36:56.000 Okay.

00:36:57.000 Uh, continuing, it's not just the censorship, uh, of Jesse Ventura's article.

00:37:06.000 It's not just the calls for internet censorship.

00:37:08.000 It's just not the distributed denial of service attack that we were under yesterday and continuing into today.

00:37:17.000 There is an attempt, as Cass Sunstein at the White House says, to restrict Free speech, period.

00:37:24.000 And that's because the system now admits that, quote, conspiracy theories are taking over.

00:37:29.000 It's not conspiracy theories.

00:37:31.000 It's a loss of confidence in the system from lies about WMDs and lies about banker bailouts and stolen elections and the CIA crashing airplanes full of pure cocaine in Mexico.

00:37:43.000 The people know the truth.

00:37:45.000 We've got Dick Russell back.

00:37:46.000 Dick, you heard the point I was making before your phone cut out about, again, the system really seems to be panicking right now.

00:37:56.000 Well, yeah, I mean...

00:37:58.000 There's good reason for it.

00:37:59.000 I mean, people are finally starting to wake up and realize that indeed, if the Bush administration would take us under false pretenses into the war in Iraq, obviously in 2000 the Supreme Court handed them the election and there was a lot more going on than that.

00:38:14.000 A lot of questions being raised about September 11th and whether at the very least, I mean, all the warnings, at least we know that publicly, that mainstream media couldn't avoid that.

00:38:26.000 There were so many warnings coming in that something was going to happen that were completely ignored by the Bush people.

00:38:32.000 Whether they then orchestrated it, of course, that's a taboo question, but very much an open question in my mind.

00:38:39.000 But the fact is that most of the corporate media will not look at these things, just as they've never looked at the earlier assassinations, and whether there were more than Oswald and Sirhan and James Earl Ray involved.

00:38:51.000 And that's what, of course, we're trying to do in American conspiracies, is bring these things or into the light and at least have people thinking about it and raising questions that you're just not going to see done in the mainstream media.

00:39:03.000 So where do you see this going as more and more of the public discover they've been lied to and the establishment media and government and corporate line is, you're a conspiracy theorist?

00:39:14.000 Well, I think things are getting more and more polarized now.

00:39:18.000 I mean, people really should be calling for new investigations into what happened.

00:39:23.000 I'm not saying that there's going to be a legitimate response to this, but if enough people do it and are ready to take to the streets for some kind of real action.

00:39:37.000 Uh, to get the truth out about what we've been told.

00:39:40.000 And also, you know, in terms of getting out there and pushing for the healthcare reform, for doing something about global warming, all these things I believe should be getting much more of a citizen response.

00:39:49.000 And, uh, right now I guess we're just all, many of us are too comfortable to do it.

00:39:55.000 But I think people's eyes are being opened and, uh, You know, it's going to get interesting in the next few years.

00:40:01.000 We'll see, Dick.

00:40:02.000 Separately, you know, Jesse did an investigation of supposed man-made global warming, and he believed in it as well, like you just said you do.

00:40:10.000 And that's fine.

00:40:10.000 You're welcome to your research and your opinion.

00:40:13.000 But then he did find massive evidence of them cooking the books in ClimateGate.

00:40:19.000 Are you concerned about that?

00:40:21.000 Well, here's what I'm concerned about.

00:40:23.000 I'm much more concerned about the fact that a lot of these big oil and coal companies have bought and paid scientific experts who are coming out and claiming that the very strong evidence that the International Panel for Climate Change and others have come to, that it's very real.

00:40:42.000 But they've bought these guys.

00:40:43.000 They're hired guns.

00:40:44.000 And to me, that's a much bigger conspiracy.

00:40:47.000 I mean, you know, I don't believe in cap-and-trade legislation or a solution is going to make that much of a difference.

00:40:53.000 And yes, I've read, certainly companies like Goldman Sachs are planning to make a killing off this, and I'm opposed to that.

00:41:00.000 I don't think it's a real solution.

00:41:02.000 But, you know, it is a very real situation and something that we've got to be hip to and looking to do something about.

00:41:11.000 Dick Russell co-author with Jesse Ventura of Don't Start the Revolution Without Me, a New York Times bestseller, and already a bestseller only officially out since Monday, so we're three days in, American Conspiracy.

00:41:24.000 Dick, Bottom line, we do have serious environmental crises from my research, like genetic engineering, open-air planting of these pharmacological crops, but I see nothing being done about that.

00:41:35.000 Instead, a call to tax carbon dioxide that plants breathe.

00:41:40.000 But expanding on the book, there's so many alternate views of history, so much evidence of government lies in many of the pillars of historical development.

00:41:54.000 How did you guys pick the 14 chapters that you wrote about in the book?

00:41:58.000 Well, I think they were the most clear examples of cover-up and of major events that have changed the course of our American history.

00:42:10.000 And, you know, we could have looked at other things.

00:42:12.000 We could have taken on maybe UFOs, or, you know, I'm not saying that there are not other important subjects to be looked at, but these seemed like the ones that really made a huge difference in all our lives.

00:42:24.000 And, for example, the stolen elections of recent years that allowed the Bush administration two terms.

00:42:31.000 And from my research, it doesn't matter whether you see yourself as a conservative or a liberal.

00:42:36.000 If an election is stolen, it's stolen.

00:42:38.000 And there's no doubt the 2000 and 2004 elections were rigged.

00:42:43.000 Let's talk about that chapter in the book.

00:42:46.000 Yeah, I think that chapter has some of the new evidence that's really going to be compelling to people.

00:42:52.000 You know, I'll tell you a personal story.

00:42:54.000 I ran into John Kerry.

00:42:56.000 Of course, he ran for president in 2004 at a fundraiser thing in Boston, and I talked to him for a little bit, and I asked him if he was aware, because I had done a piece with Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:43:07.000 in Rolling Stone about the electronic voting machines and the theft of the election, and he said, I know I won the election.

00:43:15.000 But by the time my lawyers, he went on, could come up with a smoking gun in Ohio, it was too late.

00:43:20.000 So, you know, my thought after that was, well, if Kerry knows this, then how come he's never spoken out publicly about it?

00:43:27.000 I mean, wouldn't this be something that you at least want the American people to know?

00:43:30.000 In my research into this and working with Governor Ventura on it, we came across this really interesting story of a guy named Michael Connell, who was the IT guy, the computer guy, the expert for Karl Rove.

00:43:46.000 Uh, for some years.

00:43:47.000 And, um, strong evidence.

00:43:50.000 And I interviewed several people about this, and there's a lawsuit in Ohio that brought him into it as well, that he wasn't directly involved in rigging the 2004 election in Ohio, which of course defied the election, and you had Secretary of State Blackwell who was very much involved with the Bush people in doing this.

00:44:10.000 I'm not going to get into all the details of computer, what they call a man-in-the-middle plan, but they had this whole system set up.

00:44:19.000 Where they could send the votes from the various Ohio precincts or districts to a voting machine out in Chattanooga, Tennessee run by another operative.

00:44:28.000 They could have apparently been then sending this on even to the war room in the White House.

00:44:34.000 But they were changing votes that night.

00:44:36.000 And changing them in such a way that Bush was going to win Ohio.

00:44:40.000 At least technically speaking.

00:44:42.000 This guy, Conal, continued to work for the Republican Party, and as late as 2008, not too long before the election, he was called into court to give a deposition, in this case that had been brought by some people in Ohio, about what had happened there.

00:45:02.000 And he was stonewalling to some degree, but apparently ready to talk.

00:45:08.000 And there's pretty strong indications that Karl Rove Who was saying a week before the 2008 election that McCain still pulled it out.

00:45:18.000 That when McConnell was called in to give a deposition, The day before the election, that they decided, hey, wait a minute, you know, we can't go forward with this.

00:45:28.000 Plus, Obama's probably got too big a lead.

00:45:30.000 If we try to steal this one, too, if Connell and others manipulated the computers, we're going to be found out.

00:45:37.000 And so suddenly, the night before, Roe wrote a column indicating, saying that, no, Obama's going to win by a relative landslide.

00:45:45.000 So, there was a possibility they were going to try to steal that election, too.

00:45:49.000 And then, what happens to Mike Connell?

00:45:51.000 About a month later, he's flying back in his private plane from Washington, D.C.

00:45:54.000 to Ohio, where he lived, and the plane goes down under very suspicious circumstances, and Connell is killed.

00:46:01.000 So, rack that up with another mysterious death in this whole process, of which there have been many, you know, dating back to the Kennedy assassination, certainly.

00:46:11.000 Absolutely.

00:46:12.000 Let's get into some of the other sections.

00:46:14.000 Your government is dealing drugs.

00:46:17.000 That's a bold statement, but it's absolutely part of historical fact.

00:46:22.000 Even the 1996 CIA Inspector General testified to Congress that was the case of the crack cocaine epidemic of the 1980s.

00:46:31.000 But let's get into that chapter a little bit here.

00:46:34.000 Yeah, well it really goes back, you know, to the formation of the CIA and bringing heroin out of Southeast Asia to fund a lot of their activities, working with the big mafia drug lords like Lucky Luciano back during World War II when there was still the OSS.

00:46:49.000 Then, of course, during Vietnam there was this whole Golden Triangle in Southeast Asia where, again, a lot of money for covert operations was Was being, you know, funneled through and also making some private fortunes for some of the agency people.

00:47:04.000 Places like the Nugent Hand Bank, for example.

00:47:07.000 My people might remember that.

00:47:08.000 They were channeling funds through that bank for covert ops, all drug money.

00:47:13.000 And then the Iran-Contra years.

00:47:15.000 It's public record that, although they didn't want to get into it too much in those Iran-Contra hearings, which, by the way, Lee Hamilton was one of the chairs of, the guy who ended up chairing the 9-11 Commission.

00:47:26.000 Iran-Contra Affair was very much involved with the Contras being funded by drug money that Oliver North and others were helping raise for them.

00:47:37.000 This has been going on a long time.

00:47:40.000 Gary Webb, people may remember him, he's the journalist who broke the story in the San Jose Mercury News about the That's right.

00:47:47.000 Well, Gary Webb was found dead.

00:47:49.000 a connection um and he had a new book coming out uh vindicating everything he'd previously said so they shotgunned him twice in the head and the local police said it was suicide that's right well gary webb was found dead i don't know the details of it but uh but yeah it was it was allegedly suicide and of course he was before that the media just destroyed him

00:48:10.000 You know, it came out and did this whole series of articles that he was supposedly blowing smoke, and you know, the fact is that he'd come out with something that was absolutely right on.

00:48:20.000 That the drug gangs in L.A.

00:48:22.000 were very involved with the CIA.

00:48:25.000 And, you know, then you had the whole PCCI, the Bank of Crooks and Criminals, really, scandal a little bit later, and right up to today, where you've got a situation where in Afghanistan, biggest, you know, opium-growing area in the world for heroin coming into this country, Pakistani intelligence service being very involved, along with the President's brother in Afghanistan with the drug trade, and of course Mexico, where

00:48:54.000 You know, we're supposedly fighting this war on drugs, but the fact is that you know how many people have been killed between December 2006 and the spring of 2009?

00:49:04.000 More than 10,000 people were killed in those drug wars in Mexico.

00:49:09.000 And this is all about, again, a lot of people looking the other way.

00:49:15.000 Fighting over the turf.

00:49:16.000 And that's what's so incredible about this book.

00:49:19.000 I mean, I study this stuff constantly, and I find most books boring or not accurate information.

00:49:26.000 This is really gold information.

00:49:29.000 This is blue-chip writing that we're talking about here.

00:49:32.000 And it's, again, so bold.

00:49:35.000 I mean, you're learning about how they kill a lot of people that prominently oppose them.

00:49:39.000 I would imagine you've gotten the willies a few times or, you know, the chills.

00:49:44.000 Have you ever gotten spooked, Dick, knowing you were writing this book and it was coming out?

00:49:48.000 Because you get into the Wall Street conspiracy ripping everybody off by design.

00:49:52.000 You get into the secret plan to destroy democracy.

00:49:55.000 the Freedom here in the United States with a shadow government and continuity of government.

00:50:00.000 I mean, this book covers it all.

00:50:03.000 Well, yeah, it does.

00:50:04.000 And yes, I wouldn't say it makes me rest easy to have put it out there, but...

00:50:10.000 You know, I feel that the truth is important, and the truth is based on a lot of facts that are out there that somebody needed to put together.

00:50:18.000 And, you know, back, I wrote two books on the Kennedy assassination, and spent a number of years researching that.

00:50:25.000 And back in those days, in the 1970s especially, yeah, I know I was followed by the CIA and other people.

00:50:31.000 And, you know, I'm not a paranoid type of person, but this is what happened.

00:50:35.000 You know, I should have talked more about you today while you were with us.

00:50:38.000 I mean, yeah, you're one of the most well-researched and respected JFK researchers out there.

00:50:43.000 I actually read one of your books.

00:50:46.000 Something like 10 years ago.

00:50:47.000 I'd even forgotten that.

00:50:48.000 I mean, I knew that you were a JFK researcher and an author, but it's just you've got such a huge body of work.

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00:53:59.000 We've got to get Dick Russell on separately for a full hour sometime just on his JFK investigation because if they're lying about 9-11, lying about JFK, lying about government drug dealing, what else are they not lying about?

00:54:23.000 No, they're lying about basically everything.

00:54:25.000 I mean, it's come out in government documents that I've had the army Watching me Ron Paul, but they go to our events and spy on us that Homeland Security spying on even little churches mainline groups COINTELPRO that came out in the 70s all of this is going on today and finish up Talking about some of the things that happened to you when you were writing treatises on JFK

00:54:53.000 Well, I had a guy named Richard Nagel who was a CIA, had been a CIA contract agent, and also worked for the Russians, and he was one of my main sources, and never told me everything he knew, but told me enough.

00:55:08.000 It's a long story, but we can talk about it some other time on the air.

00:55:12.000 Well, toward the end of 1995, anyway, he was found dead the very day that a subpoena from the Assassination Records Review Board appeared in his mailbox.

00:55:21.000 And that shook me up a great deal, because I had just given a talk the week before that the Review Board had listened to, and then decided to subpoena him and all his records and interview him, and suddenly he's no longer with us.

00:55:32.000 And so, obviously, things like that happening give one pause.

00:55:38.000 Absolutely.

00:55:38.000 In fact, we forget, what was it, 78% that Congress found a probable conspiracy?

00:55:45.000 They said 98%, didn't they?

00:55:48.000 Well, yeah, they came out with an official published report that there was a probable conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy, directly contradicting the Warren Commission.

00:55:57.000 Oh, you wouldn't know that today, because, you know, Bibliosi comes out with his big book saying the Warren Commission was right, and that's the book that gets all the review attention, along with Posner's book, Conspiracy Books, quote-unquote, don't even get reviewed by the mainstream media.

00:56:12.000 I don't think either of my books was ever given a big review.

00:56:16.000 So, you know, that's just the way it is.

00:56:18.000 It has to happen by word of mouth, really, and people talk to their neighbors and say, hey, you want to know the truth about what happened?

00:56:25.000 Check this out.

00:56:27.000 Yeah, well, you've certainly risked your life, and I'm going to ask Ventura a question Friday I've never asked him, and I'm going to ask you this now.

00:56:37.000 On record, because I told the D.C.

00:56:38.000 madam to do this on record on air, and she said, on record, I'll never commit suicide.

00:56:42.000 She told her landlord, I'm being tracked, they may try to kill me.

00:56:46.000 They did. 0.97

00:56:48.000 Let's get it on record, Dick, you're never planning to commit suicide.

00:56:51.000 No, I'm not.

00:56:52.000 That's absolutely right, I'm never planning to commit suicide. 0.99

00:56:56.000 And so, if they find you with a, God forbid, an empty bottle of sleeping pills, they killed you. 0.76

00:57:04.000 I would say that's true.

00:57:06.000 Hopefully that won't happen.

00:57:08.000 Well, you know, reading some of the people originally involved in the JFK criminal investigation down in Louisiana, Garrison and others, they did make the point it's important on record to stay public, to stay visible, and to tell people I'm not planning to kill myself.

00:57:25.000 And I want to say that today about Alex Jones, because You know, it seems like 30 years ago they did pretty much kill everybody that criticized them.

00:57:35.000 Now they don't kill as many people, I think, because they realize that whack-a-mole technique isn't working anymore, Dick.

00:57:41.000 Well, that could be.

00:57:42.000 They certainly, 30 years ago, they killed David Ferry in the Garrison investigation and George DeMore and Shield, the supposed suicide.

00:57:49.000 And when the House Committee was just about to interview him, and he'd been Oswald's buddy and handler, I interviewed DeMore and Shield a couple of times.

00:57:59.000 At one point I remember his wife calling out, screaming out, well of course we know it was a vast conspiracy.

00:58:05.000 They didn't ever elaborate, however, and he was never allowed to.

00:58:10.000 We're about to go to break into five more minutes with you, but separately, we actually first had the audio tape inherited here.

00:58:16.000 Rolling Stone covered the transcript.

00:58:18.000 What do you think of E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confession?

00:58:22.000 Um, you know, I don't really know what to make of it exactly because Howard Hunt is somebody that I never put a lot of stock in, whether he was going to be telling the truth or writing another fiction novel, which he wrote many, and he worked for the CIA for a lot of years and was certainly involved in the Watergate... Stay there!

00:58:39.000 Gotta break!

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01:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:00:24.000 Well, one of the most famous and respected JFK researchers has now written several books with Jesse Ventura.

01:00:30.000 Dick Russell, the new one's American Conspiracies, available at Infowars.com and better bookstores everywhere.

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01:00:43.000 Okay, Dick, we got four minutes left and you've agreed to come back on just about JFK in the next few months.

01:00:48.000 But separately, here, real quick, a few of the other chapters.

01:00:53.000 The Wall Street Conspiracy and Chapter 13 and Chapter 14, The Secret Plans to End American Democracy.

01:01:01.000 Yeah, well, we'll start with the Wall Street one.

01:01:03.000 I mean, that was really doing research into just what happened a little over a year ago when the big bailout went down, and how come Goldman Sachs and AIG got away with murder, basically.

01:01:15.000 And it looks at things like AIG's ties to the CIA going way back into the 1940s and beyond, and Goldman Sachs' very mysterious stuff, too.

01:01:30.000 The secret plans to destroy American democracy, you know, it's there for people to put the pieces together, which is what Governor Ventura and I tried to do with this chapter.

01:01:39.000 Gets into certain things that went on in the books during the Bush years, especially the continuity of government plans for martial law, something called Endgame, which, you know, again, is part of the Homeland Security.

01:01:54.000 the uh...

01:01:56.000 I love these codenames, you know, Vibrant Response and Excalibur, and I wonder, you know, who's making this stuff up?

01:02:03.000 And Endgame, End of the Republic, because that's what it spells out, an incredible book.

01:02:08.000 Briefly, the Malcolm X chapter, amazing.

01:02:12.000 Or the conspiracy by the CIA against Nixon.

01:02:19.000 Yeah, well the conspiracy by the CIA against Nixon was a fascinating thing to look at because so many of the players in the Kennedy assassination come up again in the Watergate day and nixon of course talking about quote the whole day of big thing in all of those tapes uh including the smoking gun tape that's really an acronym according to haldeman his chief of staff for the kennedy assassination and nixon wanted to know what does the cia know about the assassination now why he wanted to know

01:02:47.000 that was it because he had some involvement in it and he wanted to know what they had on him or was it because he wanted to have the goods on the cia i don't know the answer to that but well we know he was in dallas and it looks like his fingerprints were on it but go ahead well yeah i mean he was there for pepsi cola bottlers convention and before that he worked on the cia mafia plots uh to get rid of castro and when he was in the eisenhower administration So how much, when did Nixon know, what did Nixon know and when did he know it is very much an open question.

01:03:15.000 But I laid out the evidence in that chapter as to how all of this seems to tie back, a lot of it anyway, to November 22, 1963.

01:03:25.000 And, uh, and Nixon's attempt to get at the CIA records on this, and the CIA then going after Nixon in retribution.

01:03:32.000 And a lot of, you know, the burglary was a setup.

01:03:34.000 I mean, they left the tape on the door.

01:03:36.000 McCord had worked for the agency, so had Hunt.

01:03:38.000 They were obviously trying to, uh... And, Liddy, I mean, you know, this thing was not what it was made to appear.

01:03:47.000 Whether the Woodward-Bernstein thing is what we were led to believe, I don't know.

01:03:53.000 Well, you know the Washington Post is an organ of the CIA.

01:03:58.000 Yeah, well, certainly they've had their ties over the years.

01:04:00.000 And so have the New York Times, so have Life Magazine.

01:04:03.000 I mean, let's be honest about it.

01:04:05.000 And I lay some of that out in this new book, too.

01:04:08.000 Well, Dick, we're going to have you back in the next month or so.

01:04:10.000 We'll get into the Malcolm X area, we'll get into JFK, the murder, assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King.

01:04:16.000 Again, we only scratched the surface of the book, available at InfoWars.com.

01:04:20.000 Dick, I'm really impressed with your work, and again, I'm really impressed with this book, and all I can say is congratulations that it's shooting up towards number one, just showing, again, the hunger the people have for the knowledge and the truth.

01:04:35.000 Well, thanks, Alex.

01:04:36.000 It's been very good to be with you today, and I hope people indeed do find something new and alternative to look at in the book.

01:04:43.000 Let me say bye to you off-air here, because I forgot, should we give out, or do you have a website?

01:04:49.000 Do you have a website people can visit, Dick?

01:04:51.000 Yeah, it's dickrussell.org.

01:04:54.000 W-W-W, Dick Russell, my full name, all one word, dot org.

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01:08:27.000 All right, we got 52 minutes left and G. Edward Griffin is our guest.

01:08:30.000 G. Edward Griffin is a writer, a documentary film producer for 45 years, been exposing the hidden agenda now that's out in the open of the world government.

01:08:40.000 Well known because of his talent for researching difficult topics and presenting them in clear terms that all can understand.

01:08:46.000 With many successful titles to his credit, he has dealt with such diverse subjects as archaeology, the Federal Reserve System, international banking, terrorism, internal subversion, U.S. foreign policy, the Supreme Court, and the United Nations.

01:09:00.000 His better-known works include The Creature from Jekyll Island, Moles in High Places, The Open Gates of Troy, No Place to Hide, The Capitalist Conspiracy, More Deadly Than War.

01:09:11.000 Perhaps we'll talk about the capitalist conspiracy today and explain why we always see big bankers and and and oligarchs and industrialists behind communist movements and why they're pushing for government-run health care and big government and the green tax takeover today.

01:09:30.000 But gee Edward, we started getting into Conspiracies!

01:09:33.000 When three guys decide to rob a bank, that's a conspiracy.

01:09:37.000 When somebody conspires to murder their spouse, it's a conspiracy.

01:09:45.000 People conspire in a non-criminal way to open a sandwich shop.

01:09:51.000 I mean, it's insane for the government and the media to say all these other countries and people are involved in conspiracies, but our government, it's never involved.

01:10:01.000 Powerful people don't get behind closed doors to try to expand their power.

01:10:06.000 Well, yeah, anybody that scoffs at the concept of conspiracy today, I kind of feel sorry for them, because I know that their brains have been captured in some way by the propaganda, and it also tells me that they have never read a history book.

01:10:20.000 Because, you know, any cursory glance at history produces the realism.

01:10:28.000 I don't think there's a single major event in history that wasn't centered around dozens, if not hundreds, of conspiracies, large and small.

01:10:37.000 It's the nature of man.

01:10:41.000 It's certainly the nature of man when he's in a position to acquire great wealth or power through conspiracies, and of course at the apex of that little chart of how you can gain control of great wealth and power, it is the government.

01:10:55.000 And so we find most of the big conspiracies of history centered in government.

01:11:00.000 So people who say, well, yeah, you can find conspiracies in industry, conspiracies in advertising companies are always being taken to court for conspiracy to defraud the public and so forth.

01:11:12.000 But they say, oh, not in government, as you just mentioned.

01:11:15.000 Well, actually, a government is the most likely place for a conspiracy to be found, because tremendous profit and the benefit pay off.

01:11:22.000 So anyway, people who scoff at conspiracy, I understand them.

01:11:26.000 I just have to laugh internally, thinking, well, these people have a little more to learn.

01:11:31.000 But in time, they will learn it, and they'll be saying somewhere down the line that, well, I've been telling you all along that there are conspiracies out there, you know.

01:11:39.000 But it's our job to educate and to present the facts so that people can come to that conclusion themselves, not because we said so, not because we labeled it a conspiracy, but just label out the history of what happened, who did it, and document it, and then they'll say, by golly, that's a conspiracy!

01:11:56.000 Well, G. Edward, I do a lot of interviews like you do, to magazines, newspapers, I was on CBC Radio yesterday, and they said, how did you come upon these views, how did you Become a conspiracy theorist, and it's the same answer you just gave.

01:12:13.000 My parents are big readers.

01:12:15.000 My mom was a history major in college, and my dad's a physician.

01:12:20.000 And I learned early on that history books were more entertaining by the time I was about 12.

01:12:26.000 And my son's now the same way at 7.

01:12:27.000 That's his favorite thing is children's, and he's now even reading adult history books.

01:12:34.000 encyclopedias and things, you know, that hunger for knowledge, any period, any culture, any empire, that's all it is, is conspiracies.

01:12:42.000 That's why these empires and Caesar and others always set up police states, because there were always people conspiring in their own government to overthrow them. 0.72

01:12:52.000 So it's just asinine to say there aren't conspiracies afoot.

01:12:56.000 What are some of the more famous conspiracies that have been proven to be real?

01:13:00.000 Oh, I guess the, you know, et tu brute, we all know about the Roman conspiracy, the assassination that took place there. 0.90

01:13:11.000 There are I'm just, I wasn't prepared for that question, but it would be a fun thing to assemble.

01:13:16.000 I remember back in, I think it was the 50s or maybe the 60s, there was a lot of television coverage and news coverage to exposing the Mafia, the Mafiosa and the Costa Nostra in the United States and around the world.

01:13:33.000 That's a conspiracy.

01:13:34.000 Everybody acknowledges that.

01:13:36.000 You know, it doesn't take long.

01:13:37.000 If you really are looking for a conspiracy to study, all you have to do is go down to your local courthouse and sit there and listen to cases for a day or two and you'll find out that, I'm going to guess, probably 10-15% of them involve conspiracies.

01:13:51.000 Conspiracies are all over the place.

01:13:53.000 They're the norm.

01:13:54.000 Families conspire to steal the inheritance away from the primary inheritor.

01:14:00.000 Corporations conspire to defraud the public.

01:14:03.000 Pharmaceutical companies conspire to hide scientific evidence that shows that their drugs are killing people.

01:14:11.000 You can just go.

01:14:12.000 There's no trouble finding conspiracies.

01:14:14.000 Let's go back to the Mafia. 0.95

01:14:15.000 That's the best example I've ever heard.

01:14:17.000 I hadn't thought of that.

01:14:18.000 Here you have J. Edgar Hoover, who was clearly being blackmailed by the Mafia.

01:14:23.000 Getting up in speeches and saying there's no such thing as La Cosa Nostra and then researching those cases, because it's so interesting.

01:14:29.000 I probably read 15 books or more and watched a lot of television programs like most people about it.

01:14:35.000 You had less than 30 mafia families in Italy, in Greece, in Western Europe, in Eastern Europe, and in North America Controlling the opium trade, the cocaine trade, prostitution, gambling, olive oil importation.

01:14:52.000 I mean, these were just 30 families or less, but then government and giant private corporations and U.S.

01:15:03.000 intelligence agencies with trillions of dollars of funding since the National Security Act of 47 operating in total secret, doing whatever they want.

01:15:11.000 You mean powerful, avarice-filled people aren't going to move into those positions even if it was founded good, which it wasn't?

01:15:17.000 You mean they're not going to move in and take power?

01:15:21.000 You mean there's not a blue blood?

01:15:23.000 Yale group on record that founded the CIA almost purely of skull and bones.

01:15:29.000 That's mainline, you know, New York Times to fully take over the mafia and then knock off the Italian mob.

01:15:36.000 Yeah, there's no question about this.

01:15:38.000 We're talking about history now.

01:15:40.000 This is not difficult to document that there's always been a very close working relationship between the Cosa Nostra, the Mafia, and government so-called security agencies.

01:15:52.000 In fact, there's some people that move back and forth.

01:15:56.000 Some of the most fascinating information that's come out, in my opinion, regarding the Kennedy assassination.

01:16:03.000 is that there appears to be a was a very close uh... operational a team put together partly uh... involving the uh... chicago uh... mob and partly involving uh... government agencies primarily under the direction of the c.i.a.

01:16:19.000 but not necessarily limited c.i.a.

01:16:21.000 But there was a merger there, and these people worked together.

01:16:23.000 So they might compete once in a while.

01:16:26.000 Sometimes they work together.

01:16:27.000 And then you come away from that.

01:16:29.000 You put the book down.

01:16:30.000 You put down the magazine or the newspaper or whatever source.

01:16:34.000 And you stare into space, and all of a sudden you say, oh, my gosh, I see now why they work together.

01:16:38.000 They have the same mentality.

01:16:40.000 These are the people that have created a crime syndicate inside our government.

01:16:45.000 Our government has been taken over by a crime syndicate.

01:16:49.000 Once that hits you, I mean, it's really a blow for a guy like me.

01:16:53.000 I was raged, you know, a very patriotic kid.

01:16:57.000 I thought America was, you know, the land of the free and the home of the brave and I heard all of this and I know that it was at one time, but I never realized that through most of my younger years that the America I knew and the America I had revered was gradually being stolen by this organized syndicate, this crime syndicate.

01:17:16.000 So anyway, that's a harsh reality and I don't expect many people to uh uh to say ah yeah he's got it they'll probably think this guy's crazy but i guarantee you once you start reading some of those history books and really looking behind the scenes you're going to come to that conclusion well i have read no exaggeration more than 100 books mainline history books on world war

01:17:39.000 ii and the declassified nazi files of how hitler got the power than what he did to secure power all he was doing was constantly trying to stop the communist conspiracy in the government uh...

01:17:52.000 he was constantly trying to stop the freemason conspiracy he was even suspicious of catholic groups because he didn't think he fully control them though some back team and it's all about him securing His power structure from the other mafias that were in the government. 0.94

01:18:09.000 Well, yeah, the gangs often have to do that.

01:18:12.000 You know, they're always worrying about each other.

01:18:14.000 They unite sometimes because the common enemy, in a way, is the public because they've got to police the public.

01:18:21.000 So they'll, you know, sometimes cooperate on that.

01:18:24.000 But meanwhile, they're fighting for turf.

01:18:26.000 I don't think it's much different than street gangs in a big city.

01:18:29.000 And yeah, they often compete with each other.

01:18:32.000 Amazing, G. Edward Griffin.

01:18:34.000 You know, I've got a lot of questions to throw out, a lot of different angles and places to go.

01:18:37.000 I want to come back and take a few calls, just to mix it up a bit, because we usually wait until the end for calls.

01:18:42.000 But then I want to talk about all the exciting things that are happening right now, and the explosive growth curve of the awakening we're seeing, and where you see that going.

01:18:52.000 In fact, we've got a minute or so.

01:18:53.000 Start getting into it now if you can.

01:18:56.000 Well, yeah, that probably would benefit from a little thought, but what the heck, let's just jump in and swim.

01:19:01.000 There's no doubt that there is a very, uh, rise in awakening regarding, a public awakening of the fact that, uh, that their own government has been taken over or heavily influenced at least by this criminal syndicate that I've been talking about.

01:19:17.000 They're beginning to realize that the politicians and the bureaucrats in Washington that we generally refer to as our government That really consists of people, and the people have loyalties that are not to the Constitution and not to the people of the United States.

01:19:33.000 They have loyalties to their inner group.

01:19:35.000 They have loyalties to a concept of internationalism, what they fondly call the New World Order.

01:19:42.000 These people are running the show.

01:19:44.000 I mean, they're our team, supposedly, and yet they're really playing for the other side.

01:19:49.000 And people are waking up to that.

01:19:51.000 The question is, what are they going to do about it?

01:19:52.000 Alright, stay there.

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01:24:00.000 Okay, G. Edward Griffin, you were talking about what are we going to do about it.

01:24:09.000 Well, look at Iceland.

01:24:10.000 They identified the banks as the enemy, trying to make the public pay for debts that they didn't even owe, that the banks had engineered in a Ponzi scheme.

01:24:19.000 I mean, I think that's another prototype of what the rest of the world should do, just to Identify these people.

01:24:26.000 Expose them.

01:24:27.000 Expose their mafia syndicate.

01:24:30.000 I mean, that's all the Federal Reserve is, from my research, is a cartel.

01:24:33.000 And as you expose a creature from Jekyll Island, your best-selling book, they met in secret, like the mafia, to set it up.

01:24:41.000 Well, yeah, that's one of the earmarks of the conspiracy.

01:24:44.000 We're back to that word again.

01:24:46.000 I don't think that these guys that created the Federal Reserve thought of themselves as conspirators.

01:24:52.000 They thought of themselves as being Uh, shrewd businessmen and, in a sort of weird way, being high-minded citizens.

01:25:00.000 You know, they really thought they were putting together a system.

01:25:06.000 No, but that's what David Rockefeller says in a lot of internal minutes that have come out there.

01:25:18.000 We bankers know best.

01:25:20.000 We need eugenics is good. 1.00

01:25:23.000 We're going to take over for you.

01:25:24.000 You don't know what's best for you.

01:25:26.000 That's it exactly.

01:25:27.000 That's the collectivist mind.

01:25:29.000 And so they really believe that stuff.

01:25:31.000 And it's clear when you read their letters and their their internal memos that they're convinced of that.

01:25:36.000 So anyway, they didn't think they were conspirators because they didn't think they were doing anything wrong.

01:25:41.000 And they certainly weren't doing anything illegal because they were drafting the law that would make their plan quite legal.

01:25:49.000 They were doing perhaps what we should be doing is a meeting and saying, okay, let's draft a piece of legislation that's going to unravel some of the old legislation.

01:25:58.000 You mean commoners writing legislation?

01:26:02.000 Well, maybe not commoners.

01:26:05.000 Maybe we're common, but I don't think we're too common.

01:26:07.000 I wish there were more of us, and then I'd say, yes, commoners. 0.81

01:26:11.000 But no, I think that brings up a really good point, because there's sort of an implied expectation among a lot of newly awakened people that, well, we've got to get 51% of the population on board before anything can happen, because this is a democracy, isn't it?

01:26:28.000 And the majority must rule and all of that.

01:26:30.000 But the reality is that always throughout history, and certainly throughout American history, the country has been led by a very small people. 0.77

01:26:38.000 Percentage wise, way less than 3% of the population have always led this country.

01:26:43.000 And that's true of every country in the world.

01:26:46.000 The others will just go along with whatever.

01:26:48.000 And that's why the conspirators are so scared of us because I'd say we conservatively have 15% that are now really hardcore awake and all the polls show that and 60-70% that are really upset and ready to be awakened.

01:27:02.000 Well, that's true, but the rest of that formula is the catch.

01:27:06.000 It's not just the numbers.

01:27:07.000 Yes, I would say we have 15% or maybe more, but the other part of the equation is where are these people?

01:27:13.000 Who are they?

01:27:14.000 What power do they have?

01:27:16.000 Well, our 15% doesn't hold enough power to match their 1%.

01:27:21.000 Because the collectivists have burrowed into all the honeypots, like parasites, and they're up there greedily running everything, and they see us waking up, so they go, hire SWAT teams, build armored fortresses, scan them, control them! 0.98

01:27:34.000 They're waking up that we're sucking off of them! 0.99

01:27:37.000 Noooo! 1.00

01:27:38.000 We're collectivists, we're saving you from global warming!

01:27:42.000 Ahhhh! 0.99

01:27:43.000 I love that, Alex.

01:27:45.000 You ever think of going into show business?

01:27:49.000 I'm sorry, I was having some fun.

01:27:51.000 Yeah, it is fun, but it's pretty accurate, too, amazingly so.

01:27:55.000 They probably don't sound hysterical, but possibly inside their head, they're thinking that way.

01:28:00.000 But that is it, exactly.

01:28:03.000 Our 15 or 20 percent, and it's growing, just can't match their 1 percent or half a percent because, as you say, they're in all the honeypots.

01:28:11.000 They're in what we call the power centers of society.

01:28:14.000 They control the The government, they control the military, they control the media, you know, so that gives that 1% a tremendous lever of power over the rest of the population.

01:28:27.000 So, back to the question, what do we do about it?

01:28:30.000 We have to become influential in those same honeypots.

01:28:34.000 We have to move into those areas of influence.

01:28:37.000 That's what we should be doing.

01:28:38.000 Not just saying, oh my goodness, we ought to do this and write a good paper on all these

01:28:43.000 Well, gee, Edward, do you think there, and we'll talk more about solutions when we come back and go to calls, but clearly, and they even say this in some of their white papers, Cass Sunstein at the White House, that because we're waking up, because we're trying to take over the states peacefully, because we are going with the long view of history that you and others have rightfully called for as historians, they are now racing to the finish line and trying to put their control grid in to try to checkmate us before we build up enough of our initiative to defeat them.

01:29:11.000 That's it exactly, and there's some...

01:29:14.000 Debate as to whether or not they've already reached that point.

01:29:18.000 I don't think they have, but I think they're very close to it.

01:29:22.000 I mean, the two pillars of sovereignty are monetary sovereignty and military sovereignty.

01:29:28.000 Well, they're racing right now to get rid of American monetary sovereignty.

01:29:34.000 And whether the military is really sovereign or not is up for debate too, but it's certainly no debate.

01:29:40.000 Stay there, let's come back and talk about it.

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01:36:03.000 Okay, going back to G. Edward Griffin.

01:36:05.000 G. Edward, when I was doing my David Rockefeller imitations, I was interrupting you. 0.70

01:36:08.000 So you were talking about solutions to kick out the parasites. 0.99

01:36:12.000 I think, number one, my job is to expose them for the criminal parasites they are. 1.00

01:36:16.000 Well, that pretty well sums it. 0.99

01:36:17.000 All I can do is cover the same ground, Alex.

01:36:20.000 the awakened mass we have, we have to start moving in to the power centers to re-infuse the Bill of Rights Constitution and rugged individualism.

01:36:29.000 Please continue.

01:36:30.000 Well, that pretty well sums it.

01:36:32.000 All I can do is cover the same ground, Alex.

01:36:34.000 The fact of the matter is that humans have this instinct to follow and to cluster into groups and follow leaders.

01:36:44.000 And we have this herd instinct, there's no denying it.

01:36:47.000 And so we tend to follow the opinion leaders of our country, the political leaders of our country.

01:36:56.000 Before we make up our minds, we say, well, what did they say about this on the news?

01:37:00.000 You know, that sort of thing.

01:37:02.000 It's silly, but everybody has that instinct.

01:37:04.000 And so our opponents have figured that out long ago.

01:37:07.000 They decided, OK, we'll just be the leadership of all of these power centers and opinion-forming groups.

01:37:13.000 And then 1 percent or less of us can control the other 99 percent. 0.63

01:37:17.000 No problem.

01:37:18.000 And they're right.

01:37:19.000 That's the way it's—actually, that's the way it's always done.

01:37:22.000 But they have perfected it.

01:37:24.000 They've made a real science out of it here in this country.

01:37:27.000 And so the solution is not just to say, my goodness, what are we going to do?

01:37:30.000 The solution is to reverse that process.

01:37:33.000 We have to go into those areas of influence and become the new leaders and replace the old leaders.

01:37:43.000 That's all there is to it.

01:37:44.000 There is no other solution.

01:37:46.000 The idea that, well, if we can just find one man, one man like a Ron Paul or somebody else and put him in the White House, that'll take care of everything.

01:37:54.000 Well, that's nonsense.

01:37:56.000 One man, first of all, is not going to get elected if you've got all of the media against him and the educational system against him.

01:38:03.000 And all the unions against him, you know, and everybody's against him.

01:38:07.000 These organizations, I should say, maybe the people would be for him, but the people would be convinced that he doesn't stand a chance because of what the media says, and so forth.

01:38:15.000 So you could never get the man elected into the White House in the first place without having some influence of these other power centers.

01:38:23.000 But even if you did, take that example for just a He wouldn't be able to do anything because he'd be blocked on every side.

01:38:33.000 And by the way, Ron Paul has said that.

01:38:35.000 He said he's just a focal point of education to run other campaign for liberty type people at the state and federal level and that it's all part of a process and that it's the power of the people that is going to do this.

01:38:48.000 Yes, and then you take it one step further and say that even You know, even if he were not blocked, and he could do great and wonderful things, he wouldn't.

01:38:59.000 Because the kind of guy we're talking about would want to follow the Constitution, and the Constitution says that the President doesn't do anything except follow the orders of Congress.

01:39:08.000 And that's what he has said.

01:39:10.000 That's the problem.

01:39:11.000 That's exactly the problem.

01:39:13.000 And so we say, well, let's put a man on a white horse in charge and just let him be a dictator for us.

01:39:19.000 No, no, no, no.

01:39:20.000 It doesn't work that way or we don't want it to work that way.

01:39:23.000 So we're back to the drawing boards, which is the only way to solve this problem, in my view, is to Ride the wave of this mass educational awareness that you and I and others are trying to create, and then out of the mass numbers that come forth, there will be maybe 1% of those people who will say, by golly, I'm going to go into politics, or I'm going to stand up at my union meetings, or I'm going to become influential here and there.

01:39:52.000 I'm going to be part of the new leadership.

01:39:55.000 And that is when things finally begin to happen.

01:39:58.000 And that's going to take a little time, but it's a proven formula.

01:40:01.000 We know it'll work, and I'm happy to say that right now I'm convinced it is going to work.

01:40:08.000 Continue.

01:40:09.000 Well, how do I think it's going to work?

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01:40:34.000 Yes, it's held right now by a very staunch, well-known political figure, but nobody really likes him.

01:40:42.000 It's just that nobody has a choice.

01:40:44.000 So, we're going to offer a choice.

01:40:46.000 Well, this is just the beginning of that kind of a thing.

01:40:49.000 Once every year we have thousands of people making that kind of a decision, and if they have the smarts of being able to organize a well-run, well-thought-out, and well-funded political campaign, once that starts to happen, and it is starting to happen now, but once this Let's be clear about this.

01:41:18.000 We lost 9 out of 10 conservatively of the battles against the British during that 7 year war but it was the perseverance and with a few little victories like Trenton Then that began the shift of momentum as people began to realize they did have power.

01:41:36.000 They could win.

01:41:37.000 So take a Debra Medina. 1.00

01:41:38.000 She runs for governor, gets 19 percentage points out of nowhere.

01:41:42.000 That spurred masses of other people to start running in their state.

01:41:47.000 So we may not win every time, but we're out there getting the message out.

01:41:51.000 Just like Ron Paul didn't win in 2008, but it Got the real issues out there about the inflation tax, the wars, that conservatives don't have to be warmongers.

01:42:02.000 He won the CPAC straw poll.

01:42:05.000 But the bigger issue is, once we support Patriot candidates and if they start flip-flopping, you gotta drop them immediately.

01:42:12.000 There has to be a code that we don't just run and then start getting some power and flip-flop.

01:42:18.000 If that happens, you gotta drop somebody.

01:42:20.000 You gotta go with people that are steadfast and have proven that they won't waffle That they won't give in.

01:42:26.000 But take the global warming hoax.

01:42:28.000 It's completely collapsing.

01:42:31.000 The masses are waking up to it.

01:42:32.000 The establishment doesn't care though.

01:42:33.000 They say they're going ahead with it.

01:42:35.000 But so that fight will continue.

01:42:36.000 But we're seeing that we're gaining momentum.

01:42:39.000 We're getting purchased.

01:42:41.000 We're getting a toehold.

01:42:42.000 We're having successes.

01:42:43.000 The flu was exposed as a fraud.

01:42:45.000 Record numbers of people said no.

01:42:48.000 The Wall Street Journal reported the lowest level ever for both seasonal and the swine flu.

01:42:54.000 shot, and lo and behold, less flu, because we know the flu shot's giving people the flu, many studies show.

01:42:59.000 We're seeing victories against, so far, the health care bill.

01:43:02.000 It's completely unpopular.

01:43:04.000 The Democrats are destroying themselves if they pass it.

01:43:06.000 But the point is, we do see the momentum really shifting.

01:43:09.000 Well, yes, I'm glad you brought that up, because although I think we all can take great encouragement from that, there's an area involved in that issue that is generally being ignored, and it scares the heck out of me.

01:43:24.000 Which is that, under these conditions, it is extremely easy for someone from the other side to provide false leadership. - Yeah.

01:43:34.000 I can tell you that, well, what's an example?

01:43:37.000 The Federal Reserve System, by which I know a little, was actually sold to the American people.

01:43:46.000 Not entirely, but partially, because the very people who drafted the Federal Reserve Pretended that it was that they were opposed to it.

01:43:56.000 In other words, they led their own opposition to make sure that the opposition would fail.

01:44:02.000 And who is that today?

01:44:03.000 It's Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin.

01:44:05.000 I mean, clearly they're the Judas Iscariots. 0.98

01:44:08.000 Exactly.

01:44:08.000 I would certainly say that's an easy choice.

01:44:11.000 But they're out there.

01:44:12.000 And some of them, I'm not sure that there are some of them that could come on your radio show and agree with everything you say, and agree with everything I say, and say a few other good things, and yet they could be just planning to get elected so that people would say, ah, we got a good man elected.

01:44:28.000 And yet they won't do anything.

01:44:30.000 They'll buckle, as you say.

01:44:31.000 And that points to the fact that when we say that they're going to buckle or they're going to switch, it's because we've never asked these candidates what they really believe.

01:44:40.000 We've seen what they said.

01:44:43.000 We've heard what they said.

01:44:44.000 We said, well, they're against the swine flu charade.

01:44:48.000 They want to get us out of the war in the Middle East and so forth.

01:44:52.000 Well, heck, Obama said that.

01:44:55.000 But, you know, What they say is not important, it's what they do.

01:44:58.000 And nobody's asking these candidates, what do they believe?

01:45:01.000 What are their principles?

01:45:03.000 What's their ideology?

01:45:05.000 And that's where I come into the fore, because as you know, with Freedom Force, we're totally focused on ideology.

01:45:10.000 We have a creed of freedom.

01:45:12.000 And we want our candidates who are going into office to say, yes, this is my creed.

01:45:17.000 I believe this.

01:45:18.000 These are not issues.

01:45:19.000 These are principles, you know?

01:45:21.000 I believe, you know, that the individual is more important than the group.

01:45:25.000 And that the group must not, that the individual must not be sacrificed in the name of the group.

01:45:31.000 That's a firm principle, you know?

01:45:33.000 And we believe that all laws should apply to all groups of people equally.

01:45:38.000 Not any exceptions.

01:45:39.000 None.

01:45:40.000 Zilch! 1.00

01:45:41.000 Zilch! 1.00

01:45:42.000 Nunca! 0.99

01:45:43.000 You know, this is a principle.

01:45:45.000 Well, anybody that says, yes, I believe that, would have to vote against all of this nonsense.

01:45:51.000 Progressive income tax, for example, does that treat all groups equally?

01:45:55.000 No!

01:45:56.000 It starts out from the very beginning to treat those who are making more money in a different class and those who are making less money.

01:46:02.000 And those who have got certain political connections can get exemptions that other people cannot.

01:46:08.000 If you're married and you've got 25 kids, you don't have to pay any tax.

01:46:11.000 Whereas if you're not married and you have 25 kids, you do pay tax.

01:46:15.000 And so this doesn't treat everybody the same.

01:46:18.000 So anyway, my point is that now is the time for a lot of candidates to come forth and they'll speak Very brilliantly against all of the bad things that are going on.

01:46:28.000 It's time to ask them, oh wait, okay, now we know what you're against.

01:46:32.000 Now what do you believe?

01:46:34.000 What are you for?

01:46:35.000 What are your principles?

01:46:37.000 What kind of a new system are you going to create?

01:46:39.000 And then just sit back and see what they say.

01:46:42.000 All right, G. Ebert Griffin, always amazing having you on.

01:46:45.000 I want to take some calls here in the last 14 minutes we have, but fire out the websites for new listeners.

01:46:50.000 Well, the commercial website where we sell books and videos and recordings is called Reality Zone, realityzone.com.

01:47:00.000 You'll find about a hundred different items there.

01:47:02.000 But our think tank site where we talk about issues like we're discussing today, that's our organizational site for Freedom Force International.

01:47:10.000 And the URL for that is freedomforceinternational.org.

01:47:16.000 So, that's the place I hope people will go and spend some time reading about these ideological issues.

01:47:22.000 Absolutely.

01:47:23.000 Let's go to Brian in Texas.

01:47:25.000 You're on the air with G. Edward Griffin.

01:47:26.000 Go ahead.

01:47:28.000 How you doing, Alex?

01:47:29.000 Good.

01:47:30.000 Go ahead.

01:47:32.000 Actually, one thing I wanted to mention, I think one thing you guys are, what we need to do is really take the wind out of the sails of these guys.

01:47:38.000 The Parasite Criminals!

01:47:39.000 he's an elite to describe them anymore.

01:47:40.000 We need to take that back out of any description of these guys because, truthfully... 1.00

01:47:45.000 The parasite criminals. 1.00

01:47:46.000 The ruling criminals. 0.97

01:47:48.000 Well, no, I just mean as far as correcting other individuals when we hear them saying it in the common day, even as far as, like, Obama's...

01:47:55.000 Yeah, well, they call public servants authorities, officials, and I always point that out.

01:48:01.000 G. Edward, do you have a comment on that?

01:48:03.000 Uh, amen, that's about it. 0.99

01:48:05.000 How about the king of parasites? 0.96

01:48:08.000 And I think your caller, Brian, is right.

01:48:11.000 Well, what's a good term for them then? 0.94

01:48:13.000 King parasites? 0.98

01:48:15.000 Mafia rulers? 1.00

01:48:17.000 Illegitimate scum? 1.00

01:48:19.000 I mean, what do you call them? 1.00

01:48:21.000 I guess it depends on the occasion.

01:48:23.000 You don't want to offend people.

01:48:24.000 The object is not just to spit out... But what do we call the ruling class? 0.98

01:48:29.000 The ruling criminals?

01:48:30.000 What's wrong with the ruling class? 0.97

01:48:35.000 And let people decide for themselves whether they're criminals, you know?

01:48:39.000 I think sometimes we tend to force our editorial conclusions on people.

01:48:43.000 I think we probably would be better off if we just stuck more with the historical fact and let people put the twist to it that they want.

01:48:51.000 Okay, good point.

01:48:52.000 Anything else, Brian?

01:48:53.000 Yeah, I actually had one other point I wanted to ask G. Edward directly.

01:48:57.000 The release of this, and Alex, you touched on it earlier in the week, Adam Gadon issue, if they found him, they didn't find him.

01:49:03.000 Do you think that's a pretext of them trying to gain sympathy for Homeland Security to come in and start going after Tea Party goers, conspiracy theorists, things like that?

01:49:14.000 I think so.

01:49:15.000 No, no.

01:49:15.000 Go ahead, Alex.

01:49:16.000 Go ahead.

01:49:17.000 Well, I think so, yeah.

01:49:18.000 They want to keep that mentality of fear always present.

01:49:23.000 And so they've got to talk about terrorist threats and red alerts and yellow alerts and so forth.

01:49:28.000 That's constantly there.

01:49:29.000 Well, Governor Ridge admitted in his book last year they issued fake alerts.

01:49:32.000 Thank you, Brian.

01:49:33.000 And by the way, that's a violation of the Patriot Act to issue a fake terror threat.

01:49:39.000 Let's talk to Doug in Tennessee.

01:49:40.000 You're on the air, Doug.

01:49:42.000 Hey, Alex, I want to ditto what Brian said.

01:49:45.000 We need to stop calling them authorities and stop telling them that they have authorities.

01:49:51.000 They're beyond their authority.

01:49:52.000 They have power, but they don't have authorities.

01:49:55.000 But I watched a video the other day that really inspired me.

01:49:59.000 It's called The Solution.

01:50:01.000 It's on YouTube, The Solution, by Schaefer Cox.

01:50:04.000 And you can find it also on LincolnCountyWatch.org.

01:50:09.000 And what they're doing... Do you have a question for Gabbard Griffin?

01:50:12.000 Well, this is the solution he was talking about.

01:50:14.000 You know, what do we do?

01:50:16.000 And what they're doing up there in Fairbanks, Alaska is setting up their own court and having a common law court and they also have a militia for enforcement and they have a call-in line where people can call like a 911 type situation when their rights are being violated by Yeah, even police officers.

01:50:38.000 Well, I don't want to pass judgment on this, but I've seen this a hundred times, a hundred.

01:50:42.000 This is very dangerous what you're talking about.

01:50:44.000 There is a common law.

01:50:46.000 Our courts, set up through the state constitutions, are supposedly carrying it out, but they're not.

01:50:51.000 But we'll talk, we'll get G. Edwards Griffin's take on what you just talked about on the other side, Doug.

01:50:56.000 We'll be right back.

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01:54:00.000 I was up at Infowars.com reading the article about the pervert behavior of government.

01:54:14.000 Naked bodies scanning us, cameras in school bathrooms, the girls showers And people are posting links to articles where they check girls' panties in school, making sure they're the right color and everyone's agreeing, yeah, yeah, that happens at my school. 0.86

01:54:29.000 And it's just, there's a method to the madness.

01:54:31.000 It's about training you that you have absolutely no rights and you're like a slave. 0.98

01:54:36.000 It's like, we're going to strip you down and make you naked before we herd you into the showers. 1.00

01:54:43.000 It's just the power-tripping government going completely insane.

01:54:48.000 But shifting gears back to G. Edward Griffin, G. Edward Griffin, I've seen these common law courts over and over again, people always get mad and say, no, they're real, this local guy says it is, and then people, you know, get arrested.

01:55:03.000 I mean, you have to, you know, if a city sets up an unlawful court, they get in trouble from the state.

01:55:12.000 Well, I'm certainly not an expert on that, Alex, but I do have two rather strong thoughts on it.

01:55:15.000 out of control we have to take it back but what about these citizen courts we hear about and and all of this well i'm certainly not an expert on that alex but i do have two uh rather strong thoughts on it one is that uh i think they're dangerous because although the people who are forming them today appear to be well motivated

01:55:38.000 They appear to be reacting in righteous indignation, which is, I'm glad to see that, reacting against all the bad things that are being done by their national and regional governments.

01:55:52.000 Still, they go out and they form these courts and these militias, but they have no rules.

01:55:58.000 They have no limitations.

01:56:00.000 They're really like Like a lynch mob, in a way.

01:56:06.000 There's no limit to their power, and really what they're doing is they're advocating the formation of a government.

01:56:12.000 This is the essence of government, to use organized force to compel other people to comply with what you want them to do.

01:56:20.000 So, although they're sure in their mind that what they want other people to do is right, I don't see any rules and regulations.

01:56:28.000 I don't see any constitutions.

01:56:29.000 I don't see any limitations on their power.

01:56:32.000 Well no, they're going to say they're following the common law and the Constitution.

01:56:35.000 My issue is, the states are chartered by the people, we have the state constitutions, the counties are created through that, the cities are chartered by that, and Arte Civeta without a law can't go shut down a gun show, and so the only way these courts have any basis is a citizen's arrest.

01:56:55.000 I mean, when you have lawless police operating outside the common law, shutting down a gun show, the citizens have an innate right to say no to it, but the problem is the criminal government's going to come after you.

01:57:07.000 Well, yeah, that's the other issue that, uh, two thoughts came to mind.

01:57:11.000 The other issue is that even if all these constitutional issues were solved, uh, how are they going to enforce it sooner or later?

01:57:17.000 They're going to have to be able to, uh, get in the trenches and shoot it out with the established, uh, so-called authorities.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, they're playing a new game now.

01:57:25.000 You know, they're trying to say that they're a new government to the big mafia government instead of taking the system of the government back.

01:57:31.000 And all I'm saying is, folks, don't play in traffic.

01:57:33.000 I mean, I think it's fine if you have committees and meetings and videotape it and hand out the Citizens Commission verdict and then go to the grand jury with it.

01:57:42.000 And, you know, I think it's great to investigate or sue politicians.

01:57:45.000 I've just, I mean, how many times have we read about these citizen courts and they go off and do something and then it turns into a nightmare?

01:57:51.000 Yeah, right.

01:57:52.000 Well, yeah, I like your expression, don't play in traffic, it's very dangerous.

01:57:56.000 And I don't think people have thought it all the way through.

01:57:59.000 Well, anyway, I've written a little bit on vigilante action, and that's very close to this topic.

01:58:06.000 Vigilantes have a very interesting history in America.

01:58:10.000 And generally, it's a positive history.

01:58:12.000 Believe it or not, vigilantes usually spring up when their local sheriff or some local government official who has duly authority has been abusing them.

01:58:23.000 See, Edward, we're out of time.

01:58:25.000 I want to thank you for coming on, but I want to add this.

01:58:27.000 Covert vigilantism has done some good.

01:58:30.000 The issue is, these people think by saying they have a court, that makes it legal. 0.99

01:58:35.000 If you're going to be a vigilante, you better watch your butt. 0.99

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02:00:18.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:23.000 He is a member of the European Union Parliament, hailing from England.

02:00:26.000 He's back in England now.

02:00:29.000 And, of course, he was the former United Kingdom Independence Party head.

02:00:32.000 He stepped down for that to run for another office.

02:00:36.000 And we are joined by him.

02:00:37.000 He's all over the U.S.-British-European news, skewering Herman Van Rompuy, the guy that openly calls for world government, a $45 trillion to begin with, wealth transfer from Europe, England, the U.S., and Canada, Australia, to the U.N.

02:00:53.000 Gordon Brown last week called for a global government through a banking constitution where the banks take full control of the nations and the taxes are paid directly to them.

02:01:01.000 He joins us for the next 30 minutes.

02:01:03.000 Nigel Farage, Rampage of Rudeness is the Guardian headline.

02:01:07.000 Nigel Farage faces reprimand for calling Herman Van Rompuy wet rag.

02:01:11.000 London Telegraph. 1.00

02:01:13.000 I would call him even more a horrible, sickening, criminal parasite. 0.98

02:01:18.000 Thank you for joining us, sir. 0.97

02:01:19.000 Thank you very much, and yes, I think given that what people like Van Rompuy are doing is robbing us of our democracy and robbing us of our ability to determine our own futures, I think I was quite moderate, really.

02:01:31.000 I think he were.

02:01:32.000 I mean, this guy wants to take 45 trillion from us and give it to himself.

02:01:35.000 He's unelected.

02:01:37.000 The whole climate thing has been proven to be a fraud.

02:01:39.000 I mean, he's heading up a criminal enterprise.

02:01:42.000 It is extraordinary.

02:01:44.000 And of course, you know, he's not being put there by any democratic means.

02:01:48.000 He can't be removed.

02:01:50.000 By any democratic means.

02:01:51.000 And he was talking openly on Rumpi this week in Brussels about the move towards world government.

02:01:57.000 Nothing hidden anymore.

02:01:58.000 They're not even pretending anymore.

02:02:01.000 This is what some of these people are pushing for.

02:02:03.000 Yes, Paul Watson in Prison Planet two days ago wrote another article with multiple quotes of him saying global governance, global government.

02:02:11.000 I mean, and it's undemocratic.

02:02:13.000 The Financial Times of London admits it's undemocratic.

02:02:16.000 England's already under it even though you haven't voted to be part of it.

02:02:19.000 I mean, when does this end?

02:02:21.000 Well, you know, some things in life have to get worse before they can get better.

02:02:25.000 I think the fact that they're being totally open now about their ambitions shows that they think it's in the bag, shows they think they've done the deal, they're the winners, it's all over.

02:02:35.000 And of course when people get as arrogant as that, then you know the old saying that pride comes before a fall?

02:02:42.000 It will come!

02:02:43.000 But, you know, it's difficult to see, in the depth of a time like this, exactly what the catalyst will be.

02:02:49.000 But I just know, from my travels, from talking to you guys across your side of the pond, I just know there is a growing awareness, a growing feeling amongst tens of millions of people.

02:02:59.000 They're beginning to wake up to what's being done to them, and it can't go on.

02:03:04.000 Well said.

02:03:05.000 Let's talk about the punishment you're going to undergo.

02:03:10.000 What can they do to you?

02:03:12.000 Well, yes, I have got to report to the headmaster's study at midday on Tuesday.

02:03:18.000 It's all so reminiscent of being caught smoking at school, isn't it?

02:03:23.000 Who sends off to take your six of the best wax, or whatever it may be.

02:03:28.000 I'm going to his office at midday.

02:03:31.000 At his request, obviously.

02:03:32.000 I think that over the last couple of days this has escalated into a diplomatic crisis because the Prime Minister of Belgium, the non-country as I called it, the Prime Minister of Belgium is demanding an apology and demanding that this doesn't ever happen again.

02:03:51.000 So I think they're going to ask me to apologize.

02:03:54.000 They don't want you to continue to point out the obvious that especially Belgium and other nations are fully controlled now by the unelected EU.

02:04:02.000 You have the unelected Van Rompuy telling you, an elected member of the Parliament, to shut up.

02:04:08.000 Oh, absolutely! 0.68

02:04:09.000 Oh, absolutely!

02:04:10.000 I mean, that analysis is entirely right.

02:04:12.000 I am guessing that I'll go and see them next week.

02:04:16.000 I'll be told to apologize.

02:04:18.000 I'm going to point-blank refuse.

02:04:20.000 I have nothing to apologize for.

02:04:22.000 I mean, telling the truth should not be something for which I have to apologize or confess.

02:04:26.000 I mean, crikey, we're back to the days of Stalin and the show trials, aren't we? 0.80

02:04:30.000 And I'm guessing they're going to suspend me from the Parliament or something like that.

02:04:33.000 Well, let them do it.

02:04:34.000 I don't care.

02:04:35.000 That'll only draw more attention to this... 0.95

02:04:38.000 A viperous, viperous little demonic creature.

02:04:41.000 I mean, Von Ruppe, just his whole demeanor, not just his actions, is like Pachari.

02:04:46.000 I mean, they look like something out of Oliver Twist or something.

02:04:52.000 Classic villain.

02:04:52.000 Stay there, Nigel Farage, UK member of the European Union Parliament.

02:04:57.000 We'll be right back in three short minutes.

02:05:02.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

02:05:06.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

02:05:09.000 As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

02:05:14.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

02:05:20.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!

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02:05:42.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

02:05:44.000 And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.

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02:08:26.000 The Bilderberg Group documents from their founding meeting in 1954, covered by the BBC a few years ago, reported they wanted to set up the European Union.

02:08:35.000 They said Hitler had failed to take over militarily, that the European Union would be established, and then economically Take over the planet.

02:08:43.000 Now they admit the European Union unelected, the separate group of bureaucrats that control the nations.

02:08:49.000 ...are now telling the elected members, like Nigel Farage from the UK, part of the European Union Parliament, that he can't criticize Herman Van Rompuy.

02:08:58.000 And he joins us now, he's being called in next Tuesday to be chastised.

02:09:04.000 Recap that, Mr. Farage, and you're saying you're not going to apologize to Van Rompuy or to anyone else and you expect to be suspended?

02:09:13.000 And how does that work?

02:09:16.000 How long will you be out of the Parliament?

02:09:18.000 Difficult to tell.

02:09:21.000 The European Parliament hasn't ever really had to deal with anyone like me.

02:09:25.000 You've had the odd person that's made a protest because they wanted to get a particular story aired at a moment in time.

02:09:32.000 But what they've never had in the European Parliament, they've not had a leader of a group in the Parliament who is utterly Implacably opposed in principle to robbing nation-states of their democracy.

02:09:45.000 So, in the past, miscreants have been fined two or three days pay, and the odd person has been suspended for two or three days, but they've never really had anybody who persistently has done this.

02:09:57.000 And as I say, I was called in back in December and told that my behaviour was unacceptable.

02:10:02.000 I called Rumpy and the foreign minister, Baroness Ashton, I called them political pygmies, which I thought was, again, a very gentle description, really.

02:10:13.000 But I was told that, oh, no, no, no, you must never talk like that again.

02:10:17.000 So I just don't know what they're going to do, but I would suspect that they'll suspend me for a week or something like that.

02:10:23.000 Expanding on this, for those that don't know, listening in the U.S. and around the world, when you talk about the bureaucrats being unelected, absorbing England, even though your nation's never been able to vote on this.

02:10:37.000 Lord Monckton and many others yourself have talked about as much as 80% of your laws are not even British laws, they're just bureaucracy handed down.

02:10:46.000 Obama's now saying he doesn't care if the US Senate won't ratify Yeah, the way the EU works is there is a thing called the European Commission.

02:10:54.000 this bill he's just going to order the bureaucracy to do it so this is rule by unelected bureaucracies but break down the EU model for those that don't understand you know the way the EU works is there is a thing called the European Commission and there are 27 people each is appointed not elected but appointed by their own member state and either in country and each of them has a job title and a brief

02:10:54.000 And there are 27 people.

02:11:21.000 So you have, you know, someone in charge of health and someone in charge of EU expansion, etc, etc.

02:11:27.000 They have beneath them 30,000 bureaucrats and the European Commission has the sole right within the European Union to propose legislation and the sole right to repeal, amend or change legislation.

02:11:45.000 So, what happens is, the Commission comes up with a law, it gives it to the Parliament, the Parliament messes around with it, the Parliament can delay it a little bit, and then in the end it gets rubber-stamped further down the line by more civil servants.

02:11:58.000 So everything, the way in which our laws are actually drawn up in the European Commission, the whole process is done entirely in secret.

02:12:09.000 The relationship, of course, because with the It is distinctly unhealthy. 1.00

02:12:15.000 And it is a remarkable thing to think that it is the bureaucrats that make law and the parliamentarians that just fiddle around with the implication.

02:12:26.000 And that, in essence, is the model of this system.

02:12:29.000 We cannot vote for commissioners.

02:12:31.000 We cannot remove commissioners.

02:12:33.000 It is the absolute destruction of democracy and the victory of bureaucracy.

02:12:39.000 So, here's a cheap analogy.

02:12:42.000 Tell me if you agree.

02:12:43.000 They're hanging England and the rest of the former sovereign nations at a...

02:12:50.000 at a hangman's gallows, but you get to decide the color of the rope that is put around your neck. 0.95

02:12:57.000 You get to decide what color a bullet is painted that's put in a handgun and fired into your head.

02:13:04.000 Yeah, that's quite a cool point to put here, really.

02:13:08.000 But yeah, the nation-states aren't disappearing.

02:13:11.000 And of course, already it's not working.

02:13:14.000 I mean, the last time I came on your show, I talked to you about Greece, if you remember, and how Greece was signed up to the single currency, and things weren't working.

02:13:21.000 Well, now, this week, we've had a general strike in Greece, we've had the police using tear gas, rubber bullets, all this kind of thing.

02:13:29.000 And a war of words beginning to break out between Greek politicians and German politicians.

02:13:35.000 So even as they've kind of put the finishing touches with this recent treaty they got through, as they've got their new president in Van Rompuy, as they've got their foreign minister in Ashton, even as it appears that they've succeeded, actually the cracks and contradictions within the system are showing that actually this empire isn't going to last very long.

02:13:57.000 The inherent tyranny is there for all to see, and I see polls in Europe every time a country like France or others gets to vote on some new EU expansion.

02:14:07.000 They don't normally let nations even have a vote like England and others.

02:14:10.000 They vote to get out.

02:14:11.000 They don't want it, and I've seen it in Reuters.

02:14:14.000 I've seen reports out of Spain and Greece where government officials are saying big banks, just like Iceland, engineered this collapse.

02:14:21.000 The EU has set it up so that Greece will fully become bankrupt and be completely absorbed into this system.

02:14:28.000 And you alluded to that when you were chastising and calling Van Rompuy out on the carpet a few days ago.

02:14:35.000 Here is a quick clip of that.

02:14:38.000 I sense, though, that you're competent and capable and dangerous, and I have no doubt that it's your intention to be the quiet assassin of European democracy and of the European nation states.

02:14:50.000 You appear to have a loathing for the very concept of the existence of nation states.

02:14:56.000 Perhaps that's because you come from Belgium, which of course is pretty much a non-country. 0.99

02:15:03.000 In layman's words, I mean, you're not exaggerating.

02:15:06.000 This is even in the newspapers all over Europe.

02:15:08.000 The EU is this predatory bureaucracy, globally setting up carbon taxes, $45 trillion.

02:15:17.000 You even have fissures within the EU with some of the moral people, the 47-member health board, with Wolfgang Wodar came on the show and said they found out that the EU and the UN were literally getting money from Big Pharma to all of their heads, bribes, to lie about the swine flu.

02:15:37.000 So it's just all a giant global corporate system, corporations coming in, banks coming in, and using this government holding company to literally engage in piracy.

02:15:49.000 Yeah, it all fits together, doesn't it?

02:15:51.000 Hand in glove, you know, the big businesses, the bureaucrats that have the sole right to make laws, you know, it all fits together.

02:15:58.000 They're all very happy with the world they're creating.

02:16:02.000 But the optimistic thing, the optimistic thing is, you know, whatever happens to Greece, you know, at some point in time, There's going to be a revolution where the Greeks fight and insist to get back their own country and their ability to run it.

02:16:19.000 This stuff, tyranny, you know, it can be an awful thing.

02:16:23.000 It can last for years.

02:16:25.000 But in the end, all these things break up.

02:16:28.000 And I just, I'm hopeful.

02:16:30.000 I'm hopeful that people are waking up to this.

02:16:34.000 And I just don't think that having a single currency for countries as different as Germany and Greece, it can't work.

02:16:42.000 It just can't work.

02:16:45.000 They appear to have all the cards at the moment, but we're winning the battle of public opinion, and that's just what we've got to do.

02:16:52.000 Philosophers have said it many different ways, but to paraphrase it, adversity makes men, and easy times makes weak, weak, passive people.

02:17:05.000 And because our ancestors fought so hard in England, the birthplace of the Magna Carta, and in 1776 and 1789 here in the United States, which was the light of liberty for the world, the model against feudalism and all the forms of tyranny and slavery, people got fat and decadent, now the pendulum swung towards people got fat and decadent, now the pendulum swung towards tyranny, and it's creating that awakening and that rediscovery of freedom.

02:17:28.000 And you calling him out, not letting him be the quiet assassin, is devastating them and they look very afraid of you.

02:17:36.000 Yeah, they are.

02:17:36.000 They're terrified.

02:17:38.000 You know, they really are scared because they know that I'm articulating a view that is already held by tens of millions of people across the European countries.

02:17:47.000 And their real fear, of course, is if we have a proper big debate about these issues, then the numbers who support me will double or treble from where they are now.

02:17:56.000 So they are scared.

02:17:57.000 Very, very scared, and it's remarkable when you think about it that in that Parliament this week, you know, there was the President, there were all the Commissioners, the leaders of the European Socialist groups and all the rest of it, and here's just little me, and yet they're absolutely scared with this.

02:18:16.000 So I'm going to go on scaring them, even if I have to have a short holiday away from the Parliament because they suspend me.

02:18:25.000 Let's talk about his global government comments, because he's really out in the open.

02:18:29.000 You said this week, and I saw it in the news, he's just spouting off about what they're going to do with our lives and how they rule us.

02:18:35.000 Specifically, what was Van Rompuy saying about the global government?

02:18:39.000 Van Rompuy spoke, and he firstly talked about the need Not just for a single currency in Europe, but for a full economic government of Europe.

02:18:48.000 And that wasn't particularly surprising.

02:18:50.000 He said similar things to that before.

02:18:53.000 But what he said was that he was very encouraged.

02:18:56.000 By moves that he'd seen through the G20 and elsewhere, which presumably means the United Nations, he was very encouraged to see that we were now starting to deal with global problems on a global governmental basis.

02:19:10.000 And by that, of course, he means climate change taxes.

02:19:14.000 By that, of course, he means, you know, attitudes towards ultimately tax and spend.

02:19:21.000 I mean, this guy, you know, I've never heard I've never heard anybody inside those EU institutions ever openly talk about world government, talk about global solutions to problems.

02:19:33.000 It's one of those things that's been talked about in the corridors.

02:19:36.000 It is now out in the open.

02:19:38.000 And it just shows you how mad and dangerous these people are, doesn't it?

02:19:42.000 They're making their move.

02:19:43.000 Nigel Farage, UK member of the European Union Parliament, will be with us on the other side.

02:19:47.000 We'll give you his party's website.

02:19:50.000 They control the right and the left in England.

02:19:52.000 This is the only real party that has a chance and is winning seats everywhere and really starting to scare the system.

02:20:00.000 We'll be right back.

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02:24:05.000 Five more minutes left with him.

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02:24:10.000 Von Rumpy deserves to be pulled down, deserves to be insulted, to demystify this unelected scallywag. 0.61

02:24:18.000 But, I mean, was it your tactic to add some insults so it made even more news? 0.53

02:24:22.000 So people would actually look at the facts you laid out about him trying to assassinate sovereignty?

02:24:26.000 A. B.

02:24:28.000 The next time you get to address him, hopefully you would just bring up the heat.

02:24:32.000 I mean, I know you have before that he's unelected.

02:24:34.000 He wants global government and that his whole carbon system is a fraud.

02:24:38.000 But I know other members of your party in the parliament are also now exposing him.

02:24:42.000 Yeah, I mean, Mike, to be honest with you, this was the first time he'd appeared before the European parliament.

02:24:49.000 And my plan going in was to basically say, who are you?

02:24:53.000 No one's ever heard of you.

02:24:54.000 You know, how can you have power?

02:24:57.000 How can you have a salary that is bigger than the President of the United States of America?

02:25:02.000 How can you have these 30 staff working for you?

02:25:05.000 How can you have an incredible tax scheme where you only pay 17% income tax?

02:25:10.000 How can you have a 5 million euro pool of money which you can dip into as and when you like?

02:25:15.000 So that was my plan, was to say that. 0.99

02:25:19.000 But I listened to his speech, and it was so boring, it was so dull, it was limp, it was lifeless, it was just so ghastly, that that's where I suddenly thought, well what I'm going to have to say is, Sir, you have all the charisma of a damn rag. 0.92

02:25:35.000 And let's be clear, many countries in Europe have over a 50% income tax, France even higher, but the EU made their own jurisdiction where their ministers and bureaucrats pay 17% or lower, so they're exempt from taxes. 0.94

02:25:48.000 I mean, this is classic textbook tyranny.

02:25:50.000 Nigel Farage, plug the UK Independence Party website, your strategy across the world to get people to unseat these globalist-controlled puppets.

02:26:02.000 Listeners, find out what we're doing, go to UKIP.org, UKIP.org, and you'll find what we're up to.

02:26:09.000 We are a party that started with nothing.

02:26:11.000 A few of us in a pub in London, and we've taken that on, and last year we came second across the entire UK in the direct elections to the European Parliament.

02:26:21.000 And my message to everybody the world over is do not, under any circumstances, vote for people who will give away your libertism rights, Do not vote for people who are supporting the growth of global government.

02:26:33.000 If it means going for new candidates, if it means going for new parties, do it.

02:26:38.000 Don't think it's hopeless.

02:26:39.000 It isn't.

02:26:40.000 We're proving it can be done.

02:26:42.000 And when you're doing it, remember that in the end, good will always triumph over tyranny.

02:26:47.000 And you and many others are the model for others to believe they can have success.

02:26:52.000 We've got almost 40 states, it's at 37, 38 now, moving to declare 10th and 9th Amendment power over the federal government.

02:26:59.000 It's self-seized by foreign banks and government institutions.

02:27:03.000 And so there is a massive awakening worldwide and all over the planet.

02:27:08.000 The third world, three months ago, wouldn't sign on at Copenhagen. 0.99

02:27:11.000 They know the scam.

02:27:13.000 I mean, we've really got the people.

02:27:14.000 Yeah, the scales are falling.

02:27:16.000 I mean, they really are, aren't they?

02:27:18.000 People do not believe or trust their political classes, their right not to trust them, and we're now seeing that moving into active, real politics.

02:27:28.000 And hey, to a large extent, what I was able to do this week to the President of the European Parliament is living proof that if something's wrong, you've got to get out there, hold your chin up and do things differently and fight hard.

02:27:39.000 That's what we've done.

02:27:40.000 We're making progress.

02:27:41.000 I want others to do so right across the world.

02:27:44.000 And you hadn't been politically active.

02:27:45.000 You just saw this and stood up yourself just a few years ago and look at all the success you as the progenitor of this have.

02:27:54.000 I was in business.

02:27:56.000 I don't come from one of these ruling class families or anything like that.

02:27:59.000 I was just an ordinary bloke who just felt that something was horribly wrong and I felt if there was nobody out there We are.

02:28:07.000 If we have the will to stand and fight, you're a great example.

02:28:09.000 things i jolly well do it and in doing so i've met some good people on the way people like lord monckton people like godfrey bloom that you've had on your show um and you know there are others out there who felt like me so it's been a it's been an extraordinary journey um but i tell you what we're not finished yet we're gonna beat the so-and-so's we are if we have the will to stand and fight you're a great example in the last minute we've got left an individual website or how do we support you individually you have a lot of lot of listeners in england and give out the uk independence party website one more time

02:28:38.000 yeah it's just simply go to ukipe dot org and you'll see me you'll see lord monckton if you dig deeper you'll see our thoughts on our failing education system in britain you'll see our thoughts on our failing public health care system You know, we're a party that believes in less government, that believes in small government, that believes in liberty, freedom of the individual, and they're the things we fight for.

02:29:01.000 If you look at UKIP.org, you'll see links to all sorts of other things.

02:29:05.000 You'll see links to my own websites, but that's the first place to look.

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02:29:18.000 I mean, this is a lawless government.

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02:33:00.000 Nearly four decades after abortion became legal, a woman's right to choose continues to anger millions of Americans.

02:33:10.000 Pro-life advocates regard abortion as the killing of an unborn human.

02:33:15.000 But according to Pastor Clenard Childress, Roe vs. Wade doesn't just target babies.

02:33:20.000 The New Jersey Reverend says the Supreme Court ruling is being used to wipe out an entire race of people.

02:33:28.000 Pastor Clenard Howard Childress, thank you for joining me.

02:33:30.000 Thank you for having me.

02:33:31.000 I understand that you are the founder of a pro-life website called blackgenocide.org. 0.90

02:33:37.000 Yes.

02:33:38.000 Why did you start this website?

02:33:39.000 Well, when I heard the disproportionate amount of African American women 1.00

02:33:45.000 uh... that were falling prey to the abortion industry and knowing uh... indeed that abortion had now had become very much a part of the decision-making african-american women were making or doing uh... the numbers staggered me and so african-american women make up twelve percent of the population but thirty six percent of the abortions and for every

02:34:15.000 at this present time for every two African American women to get pregnant, one will choose to abort. 0.96

02:34:23.000 Fifty-two percent of all African American pregnancies end in abortion.

02:34:28.000 And that's from Alan Guttmacher, who sat on the board of Planned Parenthood.

02:34:33.000 So these are statistics that should cause anyone concern and thus blackgenocide.org.

02:34:41.000 Why is it that you believe these women are victims of a system rather than making decisions on what they want to do? 0.98

02:34:50.000 No doubt the abortion industry targets African-Americans, minorities.

02:34:55.000 78% of all Planned Parenthoods Abortuaries, I call them, but clinics are located in minority neighborhoods.

02:35:06.000 The targeting of African Americans has now been documented.

02:35:11.000 So we have to look at the abortion industry and look at the philosophic views.

02:35:17.000 And minorities is something that they want less of. 1.00

02:35:21.000 Ruth Bader Ginsburg made the comment. 0.94

02:35:24.000 At the time Roe vs. Wade was decided, Uh, we believe they were trying to get rid of populations that we don't want too many of. 1.00

02:35:35.000 She made that comment, uh, July 11th, 09.

02:35:42.000 And, uh, today, uh, of last year.

02:35:45.000 Today, we're seeing that Roe versus Wade was not decided based on law.

02:35:52.000 But based on ideology.

02:35:54.000 Just to clarify, you're saying that abortion providers such as Planned Parenthood are purposefully trying to unleash genocide on the African American female community? 0.60

02:36:10.000 That is their intent.

02:36:11.000 Well, yes.

02:36:13.000 If abortion was not lucrative, it would not be legal.

02:36:16.000 There's no question that Planned Parenthood, the leader of the abortion industry in this country, they account for 18% of all abortions.

02:36:28.000 And when you look at the abortion leader, and you look at their ideology and their philosophy and their roots, and see where all their abortion clinics are located, In Houston, right now, they're building a mega, it's an enormous building, in the African-American neighborhood, and Hispanic, designed for, completely, abortion.

02:36:55.000 They're marketing abortion, not women's health care. 0.95

02:36:59.000 They're marketing abortion, and many people need to know, on that building, in that building, there's a floor dedicated To late-term abortions.

02:37:10.000 And I want America to know, late-term abortions are still going on in this country. 0.95

02:37:16.000 And so we have to understand that the ideology, the philosophic views of the eugenics movement was to target African-Americans, and they're still being targeted today.

02:37:28.000 Planned Parenthood provides other services other than abortions for the patients that go there, to the clinics.

02:37:36.000 And all their patients are not black women.

02:37:39.000 They have women that are of all race, all religions, all ethnicities.

02:37:44.000 What do you say about all the white women that get abortions? 1.00

02:37:46.000 Well, I'm looking at the locations.

02:37:48.000 Locations, you go to the market that you're trying to reach, and that's African Americans. 1.00

02:37:54.000 Anyone who studies marketing would know, indeed, that's what you do if you want to reach the Hispanic community.

02:38:01.000 You don't set up in the Italian community.

02:38:03.000 You set up in the Hispanic community.

02:38:04.000 Now, as far as these other services, Planned Parenthood well knows that if they can engage our youth at a young age and be their health provider when it comes to the mindset of what they're going to do and how they're going to engage in their sexuality, we will sell you the condoms.

02:38:26.000 We'll give you the test.

02:38:29.000 We become your guru, your teacher, your mentor.

02:38:34.000 If Planned Parenthood was really interested in the health of these women They would tell them about the obvious links between abortion and breast cancer.

02:38:46.000 And we're going to talk about those documented, scientific, hundreds of major studies that every abortion you have massively increases your chance of getting different types of cancer.

02:39:00.000 If your body is meant to abort a baby, 99% of the time it will.

02:39:05.000 It's very unnatural.

02:39:08.000 Making the film Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, I didn't just believe the quotes by Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood and others even in modern times.

02:39:17.000 I went to the universities. 0.98

02:39:19.000 I sent off for copies of the actual letters where they call black people weeds that must be exterminated. 0.98

02:39:25.000 And you see Bill Gates and his vaccine program clearly tied to reduced fertility, sterilization, Nobel laureates on record. 0.97

02:39:34.000 Even BBC reporting that women are getting HIV.

02:39:37.000 You've never had sex in Africa, but they've had vaccinations.

02:39:41.000 They were caught in Libya doing this.

02:39:43.000 We have the UN and their internal documents that I covered in Endgame saying they want to force inoculate to introduce cancer viruses, autoimmune viruses.

02:39:54.000 This is going on against everyone, but Going back over a hundred years ago, when eugenics was like a rock and roll craze, up until the 40s when Hitler embarrassed them, they then changed the name of it.

02:40:06.000 Blacks were the number one target because they could sell more people in the community on going along with it. 1.00

02:40:12.000 On that Russia Today video piece we played half of, we'll put it back on screen, it's Abortion Inc. 0.97

02:40:18.000 Is it carrying out black genocide? 0.94

02:40:21.000 Abortion Inc. 1.00

02:40:21.000 Promoting black genocide. 1.00

02:40:24.000 Inside the United States. 0.99

02:40:25.000 In the comments, I see people in there, the minority, but still they're there, saying, you black people complain about everything. 0.99

02:40:33.000 You black people always say you're the victim. 1.00

02:40:35.000 You black people always say people are out to get you. 1.00

02:40:38.000 And yeah, well there are too many black people. 1.00

02:40:40.000 There are too many black thugs out there. 1.00

02:40:42.000 On and on and on and on. 0.99

02:40:44.000 And then see, once that idea has been accepted, Then it could be done to everybody.

02:40:50.000 I remember debating Planned Parenthood people and debating CPS when they were seizing people's kids for no reason.

02:40:57.000 They would email me, write me, call me, or in person say, who's going to adopt all these black babies? 0.98

02:41:02.000 Are you going to do it? 0.99

02:41:03.000 Yeah, we're getting rid of them. 0.99

02:41:04.000 And it's come out in the news that you can call up Planned Parenthood and say, I want to give money specifically to get rid of black babies. 1.00

02:41:10.000 Absolutely, we agree. 0.98

02:41:11.000 We'll help you.

02:41:13.000 This is a eugenics organization. 0.75

02:41:15.000 And Bill Gates's father, of course, formerly headed it.

02:41:18.000 And they're all pushing this agenda right now.

02:41:20.000 The carbon taxes are about cutting off everybody's resources where you can't even afford to have children now.

02:41:27.000 And so I wanted to have Pastor on our show today from blackgenocide.org because he's been fighting this for more than a decade.

02:41:38.000 And he's been standing up against this corrupt system and fighting for more than a decade.

02:41:45.000 And so we're going to get him to break down Basically what we face as a society.

02:41:50.000 But the fact is there's more people wanting to adopt every year in the U.S.

02:41:55.000 That's why people import folks from South Korea and Europe and other places and Haiti. 0.95

02:42:01.000 And the truth is people do want to adopt black babies, brown babies, white babies.

02:42:07.000 But the system knows this, and they don't tell you when you're at Planned Parenthood that there are Christian groups who will 100% of the time pay you, take care of you, and help adopt the baby. 0.98

02:42:17.000 No, they just say kill the baby. 0.53

02:42:20.000 And so this is a window into a much bigger situation. 0.53

02:42:24.000 So I've prefaced that now, but I want to go to Pastor Clynard Howard Childress Jr.

02:42:31.000 from blackgenocide.org.

02:42:33.000 Pastor, thanks for joining us.

02:42:37.000 Break down your awakening, who you are, what you've done, your research, what we're facing here, and obviously the larger eugenics operation.

02:42:46.000 Well, you know, sometimes the longer I stay in it, the more I find that it's a humongous machine, that I feel the only way it could be uprooted at this point is for the church, that God has always used the church to deal with all social Uh, injustices.

02:43:04.000 But how I began was just, uh, defending the unborn here locally, uh, in my normal teaching.

02:43:11.000 Did not even know such thing as the pro-life movement or pro-choice, all the terminology.

02:43:17.000 And a young lady, uh, who was more involved than I was regionally, uh, asked me, did I want to get more involved in the movement?

02:43:25.000 She had met one of my, uh, students.

02:43:28.000 walking by an abortion clinic thinking she was going to go in.

02:43:32.000 She approached her and she said, no, my pastor taught me about this already.

02:43:36.000 And she said, well, who's your pastor?

02:43:39.000 And that led to me going to Learn Life Education Resource Network.

02:43:45.000 There was a conference down in Virginia Beach and I felt that I should go.

02:43:50.000 And my wife and myself went.

02:43:53.000 The first time I heard of the Negro Project And even why the Akua Farrow was the presenter.

02:44:02.000 And I heard of the eugenic design, the mindset, the ideology, the players.

02:44:09.000 And I was stunned.

02:44:10.000 And I was stunned to find, even more so, having gone to college and gone to seminary, that I never heard any of these things.

02:44:22.000 Not so much as an iota of these things, and yet It was prevalent, dominating, and at that time the figure was 1,452 African-American children killed each day.

02:44:36.000 And here I was, a shepherd, and didn't know of this devouring agent that was preying upon the African-American community to the degree in which it was. 0.99

02:44:46.000 So I talked to Pastor Johnny Hunter, National Director, and I said,

02:44:52.000 Want to partner with you in addressing this issue nationally and locally and thus began My quest and in 2001 I came up with the idea, but 2002 we launched the website blackgenocide.org and actually the young computer Michael Spielman who does aboard 73 and

02:45:21.000 Abort.73 is another great website if you want to see what abortion is.

02:45:27.000 He was helping me put the site together.

02:45:28.000 We put all the information together.

02:45:30.000 He said, what are you going to call it?

02:45:32.000 And I said, ah, just call it Learn, I guess.

02:45:35.000 Learn Northeast is just a reach.

02:45:37.000 I want to reach the African American community with the message of abortion. 1.00

02:45:41.000 And he said, well, why don't you just call it Black Genocide?

02:45:44.000 That's what you're always calling it any other time. 0.72

02:45:47.000 And when he said it, it was like when Mary Mary heard Elizabeth something leaped in my womb and I said that's the name, black genocide. 0.73

02:45:57.000 So we called it blackgenocide.org and it's uh... Well we're going to break down with you the real numbers. 0.78

02:46:04.000 52 percent, and that's conservative, of blacks never get born, they're murdered. 0.99

02:46:09.000 That is a bigger statistical genocide than we've even seen in Rwanda against the Tutsis or what we saw with Hitler. 0.99

02:46:17.000 This is a real genocide and eugenics Is the religion of the elite, they teach it as phony environmentalism, that humans are a disease and a scourge. 0.84

02:46:28.000 This is what funds the entire global government movement.

02:46:31.000 It's what you always find.

02:46:33.000 It's what all the big banks fund. 0.95

02:46:35.000 And blacks are their number one target, but they're doing it to everyone now. 1.00

02:46:40.000 And so all these fools out there that are racist deep down and say, yeah, get rid of these black people or get rid of these brown people. 1.00

02:46:46.000 You know, all the white supremacists out there, it's being done to you as well. 1.00

02:46:50.000 This is for everyone, but blacks are the apple of the globalist eye. 1.00

02:46:54.000 And I just want to add that, you know, the good news is we see national statistics. 0.91

02:47:00.000 More and more people are beginning to wake up to this, but let's break down the black genocide program, the Negro program, as it was called by Margaret Sanger and the Rockefeller Foundation, and what these mass murderers are doing right now. 0.97

02:47:14.000 Well, no question about it.

02:47:17.000 It was a systemic design by the eugenics, the elitists of this nation, who are very much more in power than I ever dreamed that they were. 0.92

02:47:30.000 And the key thing was to introduce abortion and sterilization to the African American community. 1.00

02:47:37.000 It varied down through the years, but of course in 1973, by their own evaluation, they finally found the key element to reduce the numbers of African Americans under suspicion, that they would not be deemed as suspicious, and that was through abortion.

02:47:57.000 It was also through commandeering key African American iconic figures To condone it. 0.99

02:48:07.000 And this is the greatest strategy.

02:48:09.000 You know, Jesse Jackson, 1977, is basically where I coined the phrase, black genocide, was from Jesse Jackson, who said, abortion is black genocide.

02:48:21.000 What happens to a mind of a person in the moral fabric of a nation that can abort a baby without a pang of conscience?

02:48:27.000 Yeah, that's the one good thing about Jesse Jackson is he did come out against that.

02:48:31.000 And you go back to what W.E.D.

02:48:33.000 Du Bois and others, you read Margaret Singer's letters, she said, we can't let these people know we want to kill them.

02:48:39.000 They don't trust us.

02:48:40.000 We've got to get rid of these weeds. 1.00

02:48:42.000 We've got to hire black leaders. 0.99

02:48:44.000 Three or four colored ministers with engaging social backgrounds was her exact word.

02:48:44.000 Exactly.

02:48:51.000 And Jesse, when he decided to be president, he wanted to be president, realized he wasn't going to get the money he needed unless he switched his position.

02:49:00.000 And so, uh, he literally became a shepherd leading the sheep to the floater.

02:49:05.000 So early on he was good, but then he flip-flopped for power. 0.58

02:49:10.000 How many millions of blacks have been exterminated?

02:49:12.000 16 million, and that is a conservative estimate. 0.98

02:49:15.000 I mean, is a billion dollars worth it to kill 16 million of your own people or anybody? 0.99

02:49:19.000 I mean, Satan could lead me up on a mountain and say, I will make you God on Earth if you'll kill one child, and I wouldn't do it if they were black or polka-dotted or green or white. 0.98

02:49:30.000 I mean, this is so evil.

02:49:32.000 It is unquestionably evil and it's very sad commentary to the Civil Rights Movement because Dr. King died in 1968 and he more or less never was really a designated Joshua to come in and lead and basically they began to fight amongst themselves for power and this brought about an opportunity with Rovers of Ways which was right around the corner 0.78

02:50:02.000 To offer money to these leaders and they basically defying their silence and asking for their They're a legion.

02:50:11.000 And now 16 million dead people.

02:50:14.000 16 million.

02:50:15.000 And then there's just the consciousness of the deaf culture being so deeply embedded in the African American community. 0.98

02:50:23.000 The fact that we would embrace a message that would cause a woman to do the antithetical thing about life being In her, and that is to kill it. 1.00

02:50:34.000 That is just the opposite of God, of faith, of a walk of, you know, religious bringing. 0.78

02:50:46.000 Reverend Childers, stay there.

02:50:48.000 Blackgenocide.org.

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02:54:16.000 Here's a Times of London headline from May 24th of last year.

02:54:20.000 Billionaire club in bed to curb overpopulation.

02:54:24.000 The Rockefellers, Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Secret meeting, it says at the end of the article, for a world government to forcibly reduce world population.

02:54:38.000 Now, it's a litmus test for political candidates in the Democratic Party, but the Republicans, they could have overturned this, most of them go along with it as well, to carry out this extermination.

02:54:52.000 And Barack Obama, when he got in power, took the hold off of billions of dollars in Africa.

02:54:58.000 Where they come into villages and basically force abortions on people just like China. 1.00

02:55:03.000 And if you'll adopt this, the big global system gives you all the power, because it's about killing.

02:55:08.000 Just like Pharaoh demanded the firstborn be sacrificed, so many other kings throughout history demand your firstborn, or they demand your children.

02:55:15.000 It's an act of submission.

02:55:17.000 It's a death cult.

02:55:19.000 Again, I've come through this from studying the globalist own writings.

02:55:23.000 And they know what they're doing. 0.99

02:55:25.000 And this is going on against all communities, but the main focus of this Luciferian system is killing black people. 0.99

02:55:35.000 Going back to the Reverend. 0.98

02:55:37.000 Reverend Childress, please continue, sir, breaking down what you were getting into with the black leaders, the 52% of blacks never being born, and how we stop this. 0.96

02:55:49.000 Well, and that's what listeners need to know.

02:55:52.000 If two African American women get pregnant, one of them for sure is going to choose abortion. 1.00

02:55:58.000 And at this rate, from Alan Guttmacher, who sat on the board of Planned Parenthood and probably has better stats than most at Gluckmacher Institute, he proudly reports that 52% of all African American pregnancies end in abortion. 0.77

02:56:15.000 Also, what they failed to tell you, of course, as you've already alluded to, and thank God for your work, the health ramifications that are just horrific, which are never discussed.

02:56:28.000 African Americans now, by using abortion nearly as a contraceptive, African American women now leave the country in preterm death rates of their children.

02:56:42.000 due to the fact of the multiple abortions doesn't allow the utero lining to have the strength enough to carry full term. 1.00

02:56:51.000 And it's also been documented that these IUDs they put in women in the 70s, 80s, and 90s were designed to screw up women's uteruses.

02:56:59.000 Exactly.

02:56:59.000 And the same thing's come up with Debra Povera, that it, a lot of times, really hurts women's fertility.

02:57:05.000 Folks, you need to understand, and I mean, I've seen all the big studies.

02:57:10.000 They know it increases cancer risk having abortions.

02:57:14.000 Yeah, 66%.

02:57:16.000 And it's just outrageous that the NAACP has fought every year since 2006 from this coming to the floor.

02:57:26.000 just for discussion and workshops being set up just from the health issue point of view, since African-American women, who account only for 12% of the population, are having 37% of the abortion.

02:57:40.000 So if that is the case, and it's already that abortion is the most performed operation on a woman, How can you not allow the information, the health information, especially when it comes to the issue of breast cancer?

02:57:55.000 And it can be clearly seen by all data that breast cancer basically rose and basically skyrocketed right after Roe vs. Wade in the African American community.

02:58:11.000 So, uh, we're looking for a grassroots, uh, just recently, uh, there's been a documentary out by Alpha, and, uh, being seen in the, uh, Thelma Film Festival, uh, this Sunday.

02:58:25.000 Absolutely, we offer it at InfoWars.com, the DVD film, incredibly powerful.

02:58:30.000 Back in 70 seconds, Reverend, and, and again, every, I've researched all this, everything he's saying is documented.

02:58:37.000 You need to be as informed as he is, folks, to stop this genocide.

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03:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

03:00:24.000 Pastor Clennard Howard Childress is our guest.

03:00:28.000 Blackgenocide.org is the website.

03:00:33.000 Pastor, You were getting into abortion statistics.

03:00:37.000 I've seen hundreds of mainstream news articles from major prestigious research institutions that it causes cervical, that it causes massive increases of cancer in the uterus, in the breast, because it interrupts a normal cycle and it's very, very dangerous for the body.

03:00:55.000 And we're sending a crew to interview you about this for an upcoming film, but this is a fact and women need to know this. 1.00

03:01:00.000 And then there's All the evidence of how they push abortion once people get to the Planned Parenthood facility.

03:01:07.000 But I want you to continue on any other points you think are most important.

03:01:10.000 Then I want to get into...

03:01:13.000 African Americans, black people in this country, but all over the world, need to know that their leaders are worse than Judas Iscariot. 1.00

03:01:20.000 They are there, they are financed, because if the system comes to you and says, hi, I'm a Nazi, I want to kill you, black people are going to run. 1.00

03:01:27.000 But if they come and say, I'm a loving liberal, I'm going to keep you safe from the Ku Klux Klan. 0.98

03:01:32.000 Well, the Ku Klux Klan's pretty bad, but they haven't killed 16 million people. 0.94

03:01:35.000 I found it's the Birkenstock-wearing fake liberal, when you really corner them, they hate black people, they hate life, they hate humanity, they and their green police want to get rid of the majority of the world population. 0.98

03:01:50.000 Absolutely. 0.95

03:01:51.000 Well, especially when it comes to, let me get back to this one health point of view, because people say, well, how does it affect me as a woman, when you say breast cancer, how did that come about?

03:02:02.000 Well, if you miscarry, Your brain picks that up and sends messages throughout the body to shut down.

03:02:10.000 If it's surgically done, or if you have an abortion, the brain does not pick that up.

03:02:18.000 And it begins to send out impulses to the rest of the body as if you have a child.

03:02:24.000 And the greatest damage done is in the breast, because by the time the brain figures out there's no baby there.

03:02:32.000 And that's what the science shows.

03:02:34.000 There's a massive hormone flux.

03:02:36.000 That's why mammals get cancers thousands of times more often than sharks, because sharks don't have hormones.

03:02:42.000 Right.

03:02:44.000 Isn't it amazing that Planned Parenthood, the leading abortion provider, does not share that information with a woman coming in for the first time for an abortion?

03:02:54.000 That is negligent.

03:02:56.000 That's medical negligence, but yet no one holds them accountable, which allows me to segue over to what, you know, all of that approves right now.

03:03:06.000 And I know this program just for a few minutes I've been on and it's been sounding this alarm and it's very important that unfortunately, folks, the government is very deep into this eugenics mindset and movement globally. 0.70

03:03:20.000 And so they stepped back a few years ago and picked an entity to lead the charge where they could be basically undercover in their intent and agenda to control the numbers of the world, but especially, of course, African-Americans. 0.90

03:03:40.000 And they picked Planned Parenthood.

03:03:43.000 And they get $350 million, $1 million each day.

03:03:49.000 $350 million of taxpayer money by both administrations, whether it's been Democrat or whether it's been Republican.

03:04:00.000 And so we find that this is an agenda of elitists that are getting this support from government to continue the eugenic practices of sterilization, abortion, And seducing third-world countries into taking this in as a part of their day-to-day.

03:04:19.000 So this is going on and there's only one way I believe it could ever come to a close or to a stop is that for the voices of the people to be united as one and to be informed.

03:04:35.000 And because it's so massive, it would take a massive movement to address this ill and have the data.

03:04:43.000 And now this is the day that we do have the data to point out that these eugenics elitists have infiltrated just about every neighborhood. 0.86

03:04:54.000 Alright, Pastor, stay there.

03:04:55.000 We're going to break it down on the other side.

03:04:56.000 Long segment coming up.

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03:07:57.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.

03:08:07.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.

03:08:09.000 What you've been hearing is not our opinion.

03:08:14.000 I've never met the Reverend.

03:08:16.000 He's never met me.

03:08:17.000 His website, Black Genocide, is the same as what is the Endgame.com. 0.60

03:08:21.000 Or Endgame.

03:08:23.000 It's the facts.

03:08:24.000 It's their own writings, their own program, their own operation.

03:08:28.000 And I just wanted to add that if Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey and others of the Rockefellers, the fathers of this, they literally funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute and then Hitler, that this is their program of control. 0.87

03:08:40.000 This is what they're into.

03:08:41.000 These are the most vicious control freaks You can imagine. 0.99

03:08:47.000 And when you expand on that, and you realize that the CPS, it's not enough to kill 52% of the black kids, and the CPS takes more black children than any other children. 0.99

03:08:58.000 Statistically, they're five to seven times more likely to abuse children they have. 0.97

03:09:02.000 They then drug them.

03:09:03.000 The average foster child, more than two-thirds in the U.S.

03:09:06.000 are on multiple drugs.

03:09:08.000 The average child that's on drugs is on seven.

03:09:11.000 That's government numbers.

03:09:13.000 This is about destroying minds.

03:09:15.000 This is a cold-blooded operation.

03:09:18.000 And this ties into everything.

03:09:21.000 Everything always goes back to eugenics. 0.96

03:09:23.000 And I didn't even know what eugenics was 15 years ago.

03:09:25.000 I've been doing my research, studying the global structure, who runs it, their own writings.

03:09:30.000 This is what they are obsessed with.

03:09:33.000 You have the UN saying the carbon taxes are about destroying industrial society, bankrupting people.

03:09:38.000 Then if you're poor, they're going to take your children.

03:09:42.000 It's just State Department Random 200, put out by Henry Kissinger, telling the third world, get rid of half your people or you don't get IMF World Bank money.

03:09:50.000 This is what they're doing.

03:09:51.000 Now, going back to Pastor Childress of blackgenocide.org, and again, our websites are infowars.com and prisonplanet.tv, on the eugenics subject, whatistheendgame.com, Pastor, continuing, this is key.

03:10:07.000 We know that abortion, even one abortion, massively increases your cancer risk in different parts of the body that are involved in pregnancy and hormones.

03:10:18.000 We know it causes the women to have miscarriages when they try to have children. 0.54

03:10:22.000 The women are not being told that people would like to adopt those children. 0.68

03:10:25.000 They're told nobody wants a black child. 0.92

03:10:27.000 But again, this is being done to everybody, but particularly black folks. 0.96

03:10:31.000 We've got to get this message out to people and point out this is racist genocide.

03:10:35.000 Because I see black leaders and every other group are given football issues.

03:10:41.000 All day it's about racism and how the black leaders are going to protect you and how Hispanic leaders are going to protect them.

03:10:47.000 But it's all run by the same groups.

03:10:50.000 How do you sit there and watch this?

03:10:52.000 I know you fight it every day, but what is it like for you inside to know these people are doing this, and have you ever confronted them?

03:10:59.000 Oh, absolutely!

03:11:00.000 That's my job right now.

03:11:02.000 It just evolved, but I picketed the NAACP last July.

03:11:07.000 I followed them until they bring this onto the floor in discussion.

03:11:12.000 They will be picketed no matter where they go in their national convention.

03:11:16.000 I have a friend, Yvonne Yule, who covers the Detroit event that they do each year.

03:11:23.000 We are determined that this comes to the forefront of discussion.

03:11:28.000 We've made some headway recently in the last few years, but it's so ingrained, it's very much a part of the political system, and they're protecting it like you never would believe.

03:11:41.000 You have the whole Congressional Black Caucus fought, literally.

03:11:46.000 And this is staggering that most people would say, well, you can't buy a whole group of people of that magnitude.

03:11:54.000 Well, I beg to differ with you.

03:11:56.000 They're a bot.

03:11:58.000 And they all fight to make sure that this is never, that they are not held accountable on this information.

03:12:06.000 And especially the fact that it's affecting African Americans more than any other group.

03:12:10.000 in the country.

03:12:11.000 The fact is that more African-American babies have been killed by abortion during the past 30-some-odd years, that if you were to combine all other causes, AIDS, violent crime, accidents, cancer, heart disease, accidents, cancer, heart disease, it wouldn't come to half of the amount that abortion has killed in the African-American community.

03:12:36.000 So how in the world can you not bring this to the table?

03:12:42.000 It should be discussed in the interest of health.

03:12:45.000 Forget the political ramifications.

03:12:47.000 Just in the interest of women's health, it should be discussed. 0.98

03:12:51.000 And see, when you see leaders, and black women too, black congressmen women, so when you see them refuse, Uh... 1.00

03:13:00.000 Uh, Sheila Waters, when you see them refuse to say anything, there's another agenda.

03:13:06.000 They have been bought.

03:13:08.000 They have interest, vested interest.

03:13:11.000 And I often say, if abortion was not lucrative, it would not be legal.

03:13:15.000 And they are benefiting off of the blood of African-American babies, and their silence is bought. 0.99

03:13:23.000 And so, it's up to programs like itself, and especially the community leaders, and especially the church, to continue to sound the alarm.

03:13:35.000 Our African-American leadership, now, it's reached the pinnacle because, yes, I'm happy that race was no longer a barrier to the Oval Office, but Dr. King said, we were not to judge by the color of skin, but by the content of character.

03:13:52.000 And now you more or less in the Oval Office have the face of black genocide. 0.99

03:13:59.000 And this is an ideology of Barack Obama where he is relentless and that's all that's behind the health reform bill, the promise he made, the Planned Parenthood, that abortion would be on demand and that government would pay for it.

03:14:16.000 And so every taxpayer right now should be... Travis County just passed a law.

03:14:20.000 It's the only county in Texas to do it.

03:14:23.000 Where I have to pay for abortions, I have to pay for murdering children, so I don't sell out to the New World Order eugenicist, I don't support abortion, but they don't care.

03:14:34.000 They're still gonna take my money and make me be a party to killing people in Austin, Texas, the city that resides in the county of Travis County.

03:14:44.000 And expanding on that, you talk about blood on the hands of these people, they sell it Like it's some wonderful sacrament or a rite or a fun thing and people get wild-eyed when they talk about 0.70

03:14:58.000 abortion but the point is it has its roots in exterminating people and it gives them cancer and you got more than half of the black people never existing being murdered in their wound uh... it's maiming and wounding these women and we can we put two plus two together you got bill gates's whose daddy ran Planned Parenthood always giving eugenics speeches but he's got special shots for all the african kids it's not enough for him that they're killing half Absolutely, and this is what needs to be. 0.67

03:15:26.000 here, he's got something special for him and he's got Oprah Winfrey, who it turns out is in secret meetings to go over to Africa with her TV network to say, "Roll your sleeves up, Mama. 0.98

03:15:36.000 We got something good for you." Absolutely.

03:15:39.000 And this is what needs to be...

03:15:40.000 See, there's going to be, I believe, a day of reckoning is coming, but the data now is surfacing in places where they never thought it would get to.

03:15:50.000 And the college campuses hopefully will be the spawning ground for a move of social activism that we've never seen before.

03:16:01.000 But you have named the players.

03:16:03.000 You have also named those More or less, who are literally being prostituted.

03:16:09.000 African Americans that have said, okay, we'll play this game for the dollar. 0.97

03:16:16.000 And look at the power she's given.

03:16:17.000 Look at the power Obama's given.

03:16:19.000 I mean, here's Obama massively increasing abortion and pushing abortions worldwide and all of this.

03:16:26.000 I mean, it's so evil. 0.95

03:16:27.000 He is the 21st century version of the blacks that Margaret Sanger went out and found so she could put a black face on her murder. 0.99

03:16:34.000 Absolutely. 0.96

03:16:35.000 That's exactly why I believe he was elected.

03:16:38.000 And so he got the money.

03:16:40.000 And people today, they're still about questioning how he was able to raise the money he was raising.

03:16:44.000 But that's another program.

03:16:46.000 Four times the money that McCain got from Wall Street.

03:16:50.000 Absolutely.

03:16:52.000 So you see here, this is massive.

03:16:55.000 But we shouldn't be intimidated.

03:16:56.000 We should continue to, I believe, truth crush the earth, we'll rise again.

03:17:01.000 Because look at the numbers.

03:17:02.000 What, 35 years ago when they got, 36 years ago when they got Roe v Wade through, 55, 60% depending on the poll were pro-abortion.

03:17:10.000 They believed it was just a blob of tissue they were lied to.

03:17:13.000 But thanks to the 3D imaging and all of it and the truth, now I see polls of over 70% nationally and growing are against abortion.

03:17:20.000 Absolutely, and that's the good news.

03:17:21.000 That's the excellent news.

03:17:24.000 The word is shifting opinion and we need that shift to happen simply because It is going to intimidate the weaker ones, and hopefully not going along with this current agenda of the President.

03:17:41.000 An agenda that basically is just like the words of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and I still am shocked over those words.

03:17:49.000 We passed, she said, and in fact quote her, but to paraphrase, she said, and this was last year, she said, we passed Roe v. Wade to get rid of undesirable people.

03:17:58.000 And you bottom-lined it, that's right.

03:18:00.000 And people should be in just outrage that you mean you didn't do this based on constitutional law?

03:18:09.000 You mean you didn't study the Constitution, didn't come up with your decision?

03:18:13.000 Your decision, you're telling me, was based on an elitist group of people deciding we're going to reduce the numbers.

03:18:22.000 It was based on ideology, not law.

03:18:26.000 That is scary to know in.

03:18:29.000 And to sit there calmly saying it in an interview is even more shocking.

03:18:34.000 And of course, I never would think the New York Times would print it, but of course they figured they had an in, they had a scoop, and they did.

03:18:42.000 But we should... And Nancy Pelosi... Where is Nancy Jackson? 1.00

03:18:46.000 Where they at?

03:18:47.000 They said nothing!

03:18:48.000 Nancy Pelosi on one of the Sunday morning shows said we've got to fund abortion because that'll That'll get rid of people and cut the carbon footprint. 0.63

03:18:58.000 I mean, this is what... They talk about this so much behind closed doors, they're now doing it right out in the open.

03:19:04.000 It's frightening.

03:19:05.000 It's frightening that there's still no outrage over it.

03:19:08.000 And we're going to continue... My hometown newspaper refused to put the quote in the paper.

03:19:17.000 Which we're going to take some legal action, is that they don't want to admit What we have been saying all along, this is targeted genocide, it is a universal movement of these globalists that you will teach your audience about, and it's important for us to become informed that we then become active in social activism, I believe, because there is a God that we can turn this thing around.

03:19:43.000 Absolutely, Reverend.

03:19:44.000 Stay there.

03:19:45.000 We're going to skip this break.

03:19:46.000 It's a network break.

03:19:47.000 We're skipping it so we have more time with the Reverend.

03:19:49.000 This is such an important subject.

03:19:51.000 But I would just say to black folks listening right now, white people, it doesn't matter. 0.56

03:19:57.000 You need to go to your NAACP, you need to go to City Council, and you need to every week be there and tell them, stop your genocide, stop your eugenics, stop it. 0.99

03:20:06.000 Because if we could get black folks as angry as they get when a cop shoots some black youth who's unarmed, I mean, you got 16 million versus a few hundred blacks getting shot a year. 0.59

03:20:18.000 How about instead of getting upset when a cop shoves a plunger in somebody, and that's bad, but it's not 16 million babies chopped up. 0.94

03:20:24.000 We know those babies are innocent.

03:20:26.000 How about you get as mad about all these babies as you get as some gang person, you know, dying in a shootout?

03:20:33.000 And that's terrible, but the point is we know these babies are innocent.

03:20:36.000 How about you get angry about that?

03:20:38.000 It's a good point, and it's one that I often say, and I keep it in perspective.

03:20:43.000 I grieve with you on one end, but isn't this not the greater travesty?

03:20:48.000 Look at the innocent, not allowed to be a partaker of the American dream, not allowed their chance for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

03:20:57.000 I said, and you stand and say nothing.

03:21:00.000 This is growth negligence.

03:21:02.000 This is a great injustice we have done to our own children who are looking up to us to protect.

03:21:11.000 We'll be judged by what we do with our most vulnerable.

03:21:15.000 Right now, the judgment would not be good.

03:21:17.000 We need to turn that around.

03:21:19.000 We accepted Abortion and then the women get cancer from it. 1.00

03:21:19.000 Well, look at America. 1.00

03:21:24.000 We accept torture and all these wars and we're being cursed for it.

03:21:28.000 This nation is being cursed by our own actions.

03:21:32.000 We allow evil to grow and grow and grow and for me, You know, as a white guy, my number one issue is eugenics, but I can't imagine being a black person out there who goes to all these liberal meetings and NAACP and Republican meetings, whatever it is, and that their number one issue isn't your issue because it's the only issue. 0.93

03:21:54.000 It goes to the heart of who the controllers are, a bunch of murdering racists, and if they'll set up a system to kill more than half the blacks and a big percentage of all the other groups of humans on this planet, what else are they doing?

03:22:06.000 Well, I've done the research and I know every major GMO food they approve sterilizes the rats and gives them cancer in all the studies. 0.97

03:22:14.000 Mainstream news.

03:22:16.000 The hundreds of chemicals they put in the water under the name fluoride attack the brain, give you cancer, reduce fertility.

03:22:22.000 The vaccines in their own studies do it.

03:22:24.000 The drug insert on the H1N1 said may cause infertility.

03:22:29.000 They know what they're doing, they engineer all of this into what they do, and we have a group of murdering killers in control, and the football, the pageants, all the baloney has to end. 0.62

03:22:40.000 The media tells black people, get upset about this issue, and they go along with it. 1.00

03:22:45.000 They tell white people, get upset about this issue.

03:22:47.000 We have to stop letting them tell us what to get upset about, and get upset about real issues.

03:22:52.000 Get upset about the real issues, the ones that are going to impact you the most generationally.

03:22:58.000 And, unfortunately, we still are afraid to confront our own leadership, especially the African-American community. 0.99

03:23:06.000 We will not confront our leadership on how they have betrayed this community, the African-American community, for the sake of filthy lucre. 1.00

03:23:16.000 They have benefited for power, lust, from dollars for their own self-engrandizement, and they have not sought the service of the people This is the greatest travesty ever in the African-American community. 1.00

03:23:32.000 The leadership, the African-American leadership is pitiful. 1.00

03:23:36.000 And, uh, but I'm praying for a revolt. 0.88

03:23:40.000 Oh, I absolutely agree with you.

03:23:42.000 And we are seen as weeds. 0.96

03:23:46.000 We are seen as trash. 0.99

03:23:48.000 We're all being experimented on. 1.00

03:23:50.000 And they beta tested it in the black community because that was a group that was slaves and controlled. 1.00

03:23:56.000 And it's going on all over the world right now.

03:23:58.000 And it's only getting worse.

03:24:00.000 And people, some of them don't want to believe this because it's so horrifying.

03:24:05.000 But look at history.

03:24:06.000 Look what other elites have done.

03:24:08.000 Look at how all the kings of Mesoamerica, Asia, Middle East, Europe, They were always culling their slaves when there got to be too many of them.

03:24:18.000 And Prince Philip, Prince Charles' father talks about how he wants to cull us.

03:24:22.000 And all these big professors talk about, and now they're saying they want to genetically test you.

03:24:27.000 They've been taking baby's blood for 37 years without warrants for a secret DNA database at the Cold Springs Harbor eugenics facility that IBM runs in Cold Springs Harbor, New York.

03:24:38.000 and now they say we're going to test your blood and we're going to tell you whether you can have a child or not if statistically we say you have a genetic problem, including being aggressive.

03:24:47.000 So see, they're also going to mislabel and take full control of our reproductive system. 1.00

03:24:51.000 We have to defeat abortion now. 0.98

03:24:54.000 And they'll use that line.

03:24:56.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

03:24:57.000 Those are the roots of the beginnings of the eugenics cycle is happening again. 0.98

03:25:02.000 I just, I got ready to read that story.

03:25:05.000 I didn't have a chance to read it and thank God you're expressing it to me because that is the terminology that they use.

03:25:11.000 And those are the reasons.

03:25:12.000 That is the basic root of eugenics. 0.99

03:25:17.000 They begin to determine even what we call feeble-mindedness, what we call violent, over-aggressive, slowful, lazy.

03:25:27.000 I mean, these are the things that they feel that they want to control, even the behavior of people. 0.91

03:25:34.000 Look at black men and Tuskegee. 0.99

03:25:35.000 Look at our own atomic soldiers. 0.86

03:25:38.000 The government does these tests to also test their own people and create cadres of mad scientists that will follow these orders.

03:25:46.000 Well, it's scary, but we can do it.

03:25:49.000 We can turn it around.

03:25:51.000 We can turn it around.

03:25:52.000 Well, how do people get you to come speak in their area?

03:25:54.000 Or how do people read your website, become leaders like yourself, and stop the mass murder in their town?

03:26:01.000 Well, the good news is that there's people like myself that are being birthed each day.

03:26:06.000 It seems like I'm getting emails off my website, blackgenocide.org, And if there's an organization or a church or you want to somehow do something to get me out there or someone near in our network to get to you, I most certainly will discuss that with you.

03:26:23.000 We're seeing a wave of social activism beginning to finally surface, and I think it's a God thing.

03:26:32.000 But you can reach me at blackgenocide.org.

03:26:35.000 I also have another website, obamination.com.

03:26:39.000 I did that website in 2007 in an attempt...

03:26:43.000 Let the African American community know of the agenda of Barack Obama, and I'm going to repeat, 2007.

03:26:50.000 But, uh, nevertheless, I went unheard, but the website is there, obamanation.com.

03:26:57.000 We're going to upgrade it with some new articles.

03:27:00.000 You can get in touch with me on either one of those websites.

03:27:03.000 Well, we really appreciate the work you're doing because the heart of the New World Order is this wish to be God.

03:27:09.000 To control technology, to use it against the people instead of empowering the people and The UN, all these groups state they want a world government with a fake environmental tyranny to control every facet of our lives.

03:27:25.000 And it's not coming, it's already here.

03:27:28.000 And if everybody wants to see their future, look at African Americans, look at blacks in Africa. 0.99

03:27:33.000 Some countries, 45% of the people have HIV.

03:27:36.000 This is all engineered, and if the government's been caught poisoning and killing blacks before, and then all the evidence shows they're doing it again now, abortion, though it's 16 million dead blacks in America, is the tip of the iceberg.

03:27:50.000 It is covert.

03:27:51.000 If somebody will set up a system to make sure more than half of a race dies, they'll do other things covertly, and we've caught them.

03:27:58.000 And that's what my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, covers.

03:28:03.000 People can get the DVD at Infowars.com.

03:28:07.000 And this issue is coming out because it took from the 1850s to the 1940s for eugenics to go through one big wave of evil and people stand up against it.

03:28:17.000 It then went underground.

03:28:19.000 It's taken us another 60 plus years to wake up to it again.

03:28:22.000 But we're waking up to these devils and we're going to run them back in their holes with the help of people like the pastor we're talking to today.

03:28:29.000 God bless you and I appreciate you for having me.

03:28:33.000 Well, God bless you, sir.

03:28:34.000 What if people out there don't have internet?

03:28:37.000 Let's say we got some poor East Austin black mothers, or Hispanic mothers, or white mothers listening right now, but they want to rise up and get politically active. 1.00

03:28:44.000 Can you send them a packet of info, or how can they contact you?

03:28:50.000 Post Office Box 157, Montclair, New Jersey, 07042, once again, Reverend Childress, D-H-I-L-D-R-E-S-S, Post Office Box 157, Montclair, New Jersey.

03:29:07.000 We'll also be doing a streaming live program starting in two weeks on the internet.

03:29:13.000 You can get that off of the website and be able to bring updates every day.

03:29:19.000 Pastor, keep up your amazing work.

03:29:21.000 Godspeed, and we're all praying for you.

03:29:23.000 We'll talk to you again very, very soon.

03:29:25.000 Thank you for having me, and you do the same, sir.

03:29:27.000 God bless you.

03:29:28.000 Take care.

03:29:28.000 God bless you.

03:29:30.000 And I don't want to hear, hey, there's too many people, you know, we gotta break a few eggs.

03:29:34.000 Like Pat Robertson said, what, ten years ago that China was doing a good job with abortion?

03:29:40.000 Oh, you're against abortion of white people? 1.00

03:29:43.000 But you want to kill the Chinese and blacks? 1.00

03:29:46.000 Folks, you're gonna be killed too. 1.00

03:29:48.000 Don't you understand? 1.00

03:29:49.000 The new rule order wants everybody.

03:29:52.000 We're on the march.

03:29:53.000 The empire's on the run.

03:29:56.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

03:30:02.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

03:30:06.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

03:30:10.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.

03:30:14.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

03:30:21.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?

03:30:24.000 Bernanke?

03:30:24.000 They're arsonists!

03:30:25.000 They're asking for more matches!

03:30:26.000 The whole of the republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

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03:30:36.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

03:30:38.000 They're asking for more matches.

03:30:40.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?

03:30:42.000 Today, it seems like nobody does care.

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03:31:02.000 Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.

03:31:06.000 This is our last chance to not relive history.

03:31:10.000 As we're finishing off this agenda, They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home. 0.70

03:31:14.000 We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.

03:31:21.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.

03:31:26.000 For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world governments.

03:31:36.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!

03:31:38.000 They're asking for more matches!

03:31:40.000 And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?

03:31:42.000 Today seems like nobody does care.

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03:35:06.000 Okay, for the next 25 minutes, we're joined by Ray McGovern.

03:35:10.000 Really doesn't need much of an introduction here.

03:35:11.000 He's a retired CIA officer, political activist who writes and lectures all over the country.

03:35:17.000 He's also an author and researcher, writes articles for Counterpunch and many other great publications.

03:35:23.000 He is co-founder of Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.

03:35:27.000 Of course, he famously grilled and shut down Rumsfeld when he was lying, saying he never said WMDs were in Iraq.

03:35:36.000 And of course, Ray McGovern also has been exposing a lot of the things that the government's been doing, some of the staged crises that they use to expand wars and tyranny.

03:35:49.000 And I wanted to get him on on a host of issues today.

03:35:52.000 Ray, good to have you back with us.

03:35:54.000 Thank you, Alex.

03:35:54.000 Good to be with you.

03:35:56.000 So much is going on, but out of the gates before we get into terrorists working for our government, staging attacks overseas, open discussions of assassinating U.S.

03:36:06.000 citizens abroad.

03:36:07.000 Barack Obama, you'd been hopeful that there would be a shift away from the neocons.

03:36:13.000 Now we hear continued talk of new wars, expanded wars, continuing torture.

03:36:18.000 He reauthorized the Patriot Act.

03:36:21.000 Who is Barack Obama?

03:36:22.000 Are you disappointed?

03:36:23.000 And who's really running the White House?

03:36:25.000 That's a good question.

03:36:26.000 Who is Barack Obama?

03:36:29.000 I did have some expectations which have been dashed.

03:36:35.000 I had a woman in the Middle East, right into the Israeli-Arab dispute, the conflict there.

03:36:42.000 He offered some hope that he would take a more realistic view.

03:36:45.000 As a matter of fact, major speech.

03:36:47.000 He said, Israel, no more settlements on the occupied territories.

03:36:52.000 No ifs, ands, or buts.

03:36:53.000 No more settlements.

03:36:55.000 And Netanyahu took his thumb and his other fingers and thumbed his nose at Barack Obama and said, oh yeah, by the way, we've stopped working on this little part of East Jerusalem and now we're going to do a new settlement on this hill and that hill.

03:37:13.000 So for Barack Obama, after a year in office, to tell, I guess it was a Time reporter, in this plaintive tone, gee, you know, I didn't think that the Arab-Israeli thing was so intractable.

03:37:31.000 They're so stubborn.

03:37:34.000 It's as though he has no leverage, you know?

03:37:37.000 And, you know, $3 billion a year from your tax money and mine that they give to Israel every year, that doesn't give any leverage.

03:37:45.000 Give me a break! 1.00

03:37:47.000 So my major fear right now, Alex, is Is that Netanyahu has to look on this Obama character as a real wuss, you know?

03:37:58.000 A real captive of the Israel lobby in this country.

03:38:01.000 And so what's to prevent Netanyahu from starting a war with Iran with the full expectation that Congress will vote, as it usually does, 492 to 3 in favor of, you know, defending our

03:38:17.000 Quote, ally, and I use quotation marks because an ally is a country with which another country has a defense agreement, and there is no mutual defense agreement between Israel and the United States, and that's more than just a technicality that does not oblige us to go to war if Israel provokes a war with Iran.

03:38:39.000 Well, Ray McGovern, you were one of the chief analysts in the morning briefer for Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr.

03:38:45.000 I mean, if you were there sitting in front of the President today, i.e.

03:38:49.000 the American people you're speaking to right now, what's the word with all your intelligence sources and also just analyzing the full spectrum?

03:38:57.000 We see Ahmadinejad saying they plan, Israel plans to attack in the spring or summer.

03:39:02.000 We see the Communist Chinese saying, you know, they're basically girding for conflict.

03:39:08.000 With the United States, we see Russia now becoming more and more angry at what the West is doing.

03:39:19.000 We see John Kerry dispatched to Israel in a speech to say, look, don't attack, let us just do crippling sanctions.

03:39:29.000 What are the chances they are going to launch a war?

03:39:31.000 What will it look like?

03:39:33.000 Are we in real danger right now?

03:39:35.000 It all depends, in my view, Alex, on how Mr. Yahoo and his cohorts there in Tel Aviv view Obama.

03:39:46.000 The incredible traveling back and forth between Washington to Tel Aviv, you have the CIA head, you have the National Security Advisor, you have the Defense Secretary, you have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, You know, it never stops.

03:40:04.000 Biden is either there or going there this week.

03:40:06.000 Something's being planned!

03:40:08.000 Well, you know, it seems to me that what's happening is what happened a year and a half ago when Admiral Mullen, just named Joint Chief of Staff Chairman, went to Israel and he said, look, we don't want a war with Iran.

03:40:24.000 So stop listening to Elliott Abrams and Dick Cheney.

03:40:29.000 I'm the head of the U.S. Armed Forces, and I don't want you to provoke war.

03:40:33.000 Now, listen to me.

03:40:34.000 Listen to me.

03:40:35.000 I'm a naval officer, okay?

03:40:36.000 I know what happened on June 8, 1967, when you tried to sink one of our ships, okay?

03:40:42.000 That's not going to happen again, so don't even think of it.

03:40:46.000 Now, that was amazing, Alex, because that was the first time any senior statesman, any senior military officer ever raised the USS Liberty incident with the Israelis.

03:40:52.000 raised the USS Liberty incident with the Israelis.

03:40:56.000 He read of the Riot Act, and it worked at a time when Cheney and Bush were launching the juggernaut toward war against Iran.

03:41:06.000 And the other thing that helped, of course, in those days was the sensible U.S. intelligence estimate that said, and most people forget this, the estimate said, yeah, Iran had been working on the weapons part of a nuclear program up until the fall of 2003. Iran had been working on the weapons part of a And then they stopped.

03:41:26.000 And we say that with great confidence.

03:41:32.000 Now, whether they've resumed between 2003 and 2007 when the estimate came out, we're not sure, but we have reasonable confidence that they have not started that again.

03:41:44.000 Well, Ray, I saw that in the paper when it happened, and I don't want to just glaze over it.

03:41:48.000 That's an important point you raised a few minutes ago that I'd really kind of forgotten about.

03:41:53.000 It had gone in the memory hole that Admiral Mullen, and I saw it in the Jerusalem Post, said, don't stage an event like the USS Liberty.

03:42:01.000 I mean, that was an amazing statement by a top military officer of don't launch a false flag.

03:42:08.000 And I remember you Almost four years ago on this show, saying, I think Cheney will try to stage a Gulf of Tonkin near the Strait of Hormuz, and then a year and a half later it came out that right around that time, Cy Hirsch reported at MSNBC, it was confirmed, wanted to have US Navy SEALs attack US destroyers.

03:42:28.000 As a staged provocation.

03:42:29.000 Looks like they only did the fake radio transmission, but that wasn't enough.

03:42:33.000 And the Admiralty, as it goes, didn't bite.

03:42:38.000 And Fox Phelan didn't bite on it.

03:42:41.000 So flesh that out for people.

03:42:43.000 In layman's terms, what it means to have a top military officer go to the Israelis and say, look, don't stage an event.

03:42:52.000 Well, it's good that you pointed out Cy Hirsch's reporting because he also reported that Dick Cheney had proposed, and I don't know how far this got, but proposed a painting, and having them dropped off by the Israelis in the Persian Gulf and create an incident that way.

03:43:13.000 So all this is very real, and the distinction I would make between what Mullen did a year and a half ago and what he did just last, well, two weeks ago is this.

03:43:25.000 Now we're sounding like, please, please don't start an attack.

03:43:30.000 It wouldn't be good.

03:43:31.000 Oh, yeah, it's on the table.

03:43:33.000 An attack is on the table.

03:43:35.000 Never mind, Alex, that it's, you know, a war crime to attack a country that hasn't attacked you or has no capability of attacking you.

03:43:42.000 It's still on the table, but please, pretty please, you know, it would really be nice.

03:43:48.000 So, the tone has changed.

03:43:49.000 It's not a kind of a forward look.

03:43:52.000 We know what you're up to.

03:43:53.000 Don't even think of it.

03:43:56.000 We know what you're up to, but please, please, this would really create quite a mess.

03:44:01.000 And so that disconcerts me, that really worries me, because, you know, Mullen has been pretty, when he had Fallon out there also, then, you know, things were pretty hard-nosed.

03:44:13.000 The military does not want to get involved in a war with Iran because they know it would be a catastrophe.

03:44:19.000 At the end of this article I wrote, you know, I compared Iraq and Afghanistan.

03:44:26.000 In light of a war with Iran, well, Iran would make a war with Iraq and Afghanistan look like a girls volleyball match between Mount Sinai and Holy Name Academy.

03:44:38.000 That's how bad it would be.

03:44:43.000 So what's the word in Washington with all your sources?

03:44:45.000 I mean, clearly they're trying to sell a war.

03:44:47.000 We see it all over the newspapers.

03:44:49.000 It's being pushed.

03:44:51.000 I mean, what are the chances, statistically, or dead reckoning, that they are going to launch an attack?

03:44:57.000 What will that attack look like and what will the aftermath be?

03:45:01.000 Well, I would not exclude the Israelis doing what they did on the 9th of June. 0.99

03:45:10.000 in 1967, the day after the attack on the USS Liberty, that's when they went up on the Golan and took the Golan Heights from Syria.

03:45:19.000 Now, why do I compare that to these days Well, the U.S.

03:45:23.000 Ambassador, the people of Washington, they were all over the Israeli leaders saying, no, no, okay, all right, you took the side, you took off.

03:45:30.000 Please, please, don't go up on the Golan.

03:45:34.000 That would get you involved in a war with Syria.

03:45:37.000 Don't do that, okay?

03:45:38.000 And, of course, they had a great intention of doing that, and one of the reasons, I believe, that they tried to sink the Liberty is because the Liberty was in a position to intercept Communications.

03:45:49.000 Without which, the Israelis couldn't do Golan, okay? 0.98

03:45:52.000 So they were sure the U.S.

03:45:53.000 was going to find out about it, and therefore they thought they would nip it in the bud there by taking a ship.

03:46:00.000 In any case, the situation is very similar now, because there's no guarantee that the Israelis won't go ahead with the full expectation that a lopsided vote in Congress and in the administration.

03:46:13.000 I mean, look who's running the place. 0.80

03:46:14.000 It's Rahm Emanuel.

03:46:16.000 Now, to his credit, you know, he's a very patriotic guy.

03:46:19.000 And, you know, when the balloon went up in the first Gulf War, he immediately rejoined the army.

03:46:25.000 Most people don't realize that it was the Israeli army that he joined.

03:46:29.000 And for all I know, he's still a reservist in the Israeli army, probably in intelligence.

03:46:36.000 Now, he's running the White House.

03:46:37.000 Give me a break! 1.00

03:46:39.000 So we have a bunch of people who, as I said before, We have great difficulty distinguishing between what they believe to be the strategic necessities of Israel vis-a-vis the strategic needs of our own country, and that is the kind of situation that George Washington himself, our first president, warned about when he talked about passionate attachments of one country to the perceived needs of another.

03:47:08.000 Absolutely.

03:47:09.000 When he was, of course, first president, they burned effigies of him all over the country.

03:47:13.000 The French tried to foam in a rebellion in the U.S.

03:47:16.000 because he would not authorize a new war against the British.

03:47:19.000 He said, no, we want our independence and our freedoms, not to be in an imperial alliance with the French.

03:47:27.000 And these entangling alliances are not what we need to do.

03:47:30.000 And that's what built America.

03:47:31.000 But what's wrong with Israel?

03:47:33.000 I mean, I'm no geopolitical wizard, but I can look at the pieces.

03:47:38.000 It really isn't in Israel's interest. 0.93

03:47:40.000 They know Iran doesn't have nukes.

03:47:42.000 Iran even tried to buy the uranium for the power plants from France a few months ago, which proves it wasn't to be used in weapons.

03:47:53.000 Why does Israel want to attack Iran?

03:47:58.000 It's the last bastion of support for people who, in Israel's eyes, endanger the state of Israel. 0.55

03:48:09.000 It is true that Iran affords a lot of help to Hamas and Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

03:48:21.000 These have been branded terrorist organizations by the U.S., but they're mostly so popular because they help the common people, the poor people, and they do have terrorist wings.

03:48:34.000 Now these terrorists can wreak havoc on Israel, and that's why Israel is doing all this preemptive killing 14,000 Gaza, mostly civilians, at the turn of a year ago.

03:48:48.000 So Israelis would like to take advantage of the opportunity to raise this, what shall we call it, this pretext of Iran becoming close to a nuclear weapon, to do in the regime there and to make Iran the kind of basket to do in the regime there and to make Iran the kind of basket case that they succeeded in getting the Bush administration 0.56

03:49:14.000 And we've seen a lot of different breakdowns by analysts of what will happen if Iran is attacked.

03:49:20.000 All of the scenarios are bad, but they go from bad to worse.

03:49:23.000 Briefly, what will happen if Iran is bombarded?

03:49:26.000 One of the things they'll do, and this will hurt most Americans, is mine the Straits of Hormuz. 0.69

03:49:33.000 And through that Strait of Hormuz go, I think, 40% of the exported oil to the rest of the world.

03:49:42.000 So you talk about Japan, China, you talk about some really interesting and powerful countries that would be affected by this, not to mention U.S.

03:49:50.000 people at the gas pump.

03:49:52.000 Now, Admiral Mullen was asked two and a half years ago, well, couldn't the Iranians blockade the strait there?

03:50:01.000 And he swore it hard, and he said, yeah, they could.

03:50:03.000 But we could take it back within three days, probably.

03:50:08.000 Well, right.

03:50:09.000 How are you going to take it back, Admiral Mullen?

03:50:11.000 Are you going to send the Marines to scare those cliffs?

03:50:16.000 Where are you going to get the Marines from, Admiral Mullen?

03:50:18.000 Are you going to take them out of Afghanistan? 1.00

03:50:20.000 There aren't any Marines.

03:50:22.000 So, you know, the situation... And the Iranians aren't the Iraqis. 1.00

03:50:25.000 I mean, they really are going to have focused, sustained counterattacks.

03:50:30.000 And from what I've read, all they've got to do is not mine it.

03:50:32.000 They'll sink a bunch of ships there, and you're not going to get that out in a month.

03:50:36.000 Sure, they could do that.

03:50:37.000 You know, they have all these little boats with rocket launchers on them, and they have coastal defense things that won't quit.

03:50:45.000 These big U.S.

03:50:46.000 ships in the Persian Gulf are sitting ducks, frankly.

03:50:49.000 They're not...

03:50:51.000 If I were the head of the Navy, I'd get them the heck out of there and not make them sitting ducks. 0.81

03:50:57.000 What is it?

03:50:58.000 13,000 sunburned missiles that can hit all our ships?

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03:54:08.000 Fifteen minutes into the next hour, Ray McGovern will leave us.

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03:54:18.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I've seen all these big statements out of the State Department and many others, that this is one of the most critical times in world history in the last 200 years.

03:54:29.000 Henry Kissinger has said that.

03:54:31.000 Everything is coming together like a perfect storm, like we saw in the lead-up to World War I and World War II.

03:54:37.000 The world economy is plunging, the banks are looting.

03:54:41.000 They need a political distraction like a war.

03:54:44.000 Israel wants a war. 0.96

03:54:46.000 You have all that coming together in a perfect storm.

03:54:49.000 How do we avert this?

03:54:50.000 We were finishing up with Ray McGovern on the subject of what Iran would do.

03:54:54.000 Certainly, Ray, they wouldn't stop just with closing the Strait of Hormuz, would they?

03:55:00.000 No, I think that they have so many options, it's really hard to predict.

03:55:06.000 One of the things they could do is cause all kinds of casualties in Iraq. 0.92

03:55:12.000 They could do the same in Afghanistan.

03:55:15.000 They could shoot a couple rockets into Israel, and some people believe that they could destroy the Israeli weapons reactor in Dimona.

03:55:25.000 So, you know, the Israelis can't be really clear about what would happen unless they enlist the U.S. 0.72

03:55:32.000 to be at the ready if and when they decide to attack.

03:55:36.000 I think that a lot of their concern, though, even the Israeli concern, is kind of like a synthetic one.

03:55:43.000 It's manufactured concern.

03:55:45.000 They're whipping up this hysteria, even though the Iranians, poor souls, are having all kinds of trouble trying to enrich their uranium, even to work in a nuclear reactor for electricity. 0.54

03:55:56.000 They're whipping up this hysteria because it's something that the U.S.

03:55:59.000 citizens can be sold on, just like before Iraq. 0.99

03:56:03.000 Now, one of the things that's really curious is, here's Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, out there.

03:56:11.000 In Doha out there, the United Arab Emirates, and she's saying, you know, we recognize that Iran is not a threat to the United States, but it is a threat to our friends and allies. 0.99

03:56:26.000 Now, for that, read Israel.

03:56:28.000 And so, you know, how is it a threat?

03:56:31.000 Well, if it got one nuclear weapon, Uh, you know, I'd be a real threat to, uh, an existential threat to Israel, which only has between 200 and 300 deliverable by rocket, by, uh, by under the sea, by naval aircraft, you know, you name it, deliverable in all kinds of ways. 0.75

03:56:54.000 It's a real stretch, you know, despite the, you know, the paranoia.

03:56:58.000 Meanwhile, Pakistan's got quite a few nukes and medium-range delivery systems. 0.99

03:57:04.000 Yeah.

03:57:05.000 Well, even, you know, my friend Robert Gates, who was nominated to be Defense Secretary right there in 2004, I guess, well, no, 2006, after the terrible election for the Republicans.

03:57:22.000 You know, when he was asked by one of the actuaries, Carl Levin, the head of the Europe Services Committee in the Senate, he said, Mr. Gates, just tell me, why would Iran want to have a nuclear weapon?

03:57:40.000 And Gates, I guess, thinking more as an analyst than a politician, he says, well, look at the map.

03:57:48.000 They're surrounded by countries that have nuclear weapons.

03:57:51.000 There's Pakistan, there's Russia, there's Israel.

03:57:55.000 Turkey?

03:57:57.000 And Turkey and, well, Turkey doesn't have the nuclear weapons.

03:58:00.000 Well, we've got nukes there, yeah.

03:58:01.000 Yeah, but, and then in the Persian Gulf, you've got the U.S., so they're surrounded.

03:58:05.000 Pakistan, Russia, Israel, and the U.S.

03:58:09.000 and Persian Gulf.

03:58:10.000 Well, of course, all kinds of ripples, because Gates should have known that it's not politically correct to mention Israel in this connection, okay?

03:58:20.000 Everybody did.

03:58:21.000 And of course, that's a sensible, sensible, look at Iran. 0.96

03:58:25.000 Look at it from their point of view.

03:58:27.000 They're named one of the three axes of, axes of easel.

03:58:31.000 Okay?

03:58:32.000 Now, what happens to North Korea?

03:58:35.000 They have a bomb.

03:58:36.000 Nothing.

03:58:37.000 What happens to Iraq? 0.86

03:58:38.000 They all have a bomb.

03:58:39.000 They get a bomb, they're safe.

03:58:42.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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