Alex Jones Show - 20100421_Wed_Alex

00:00:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:10.000 The biggest news in years on world government.

00:00:14.000 They're actually doing it.

00:00:19.000 We have the G20 document that's been released by the London Guardian.

00:00:22.000 We have the article in the AP and the Guardian.

00:00:26.000 They are packaging it and pushing it as if it's a way to get back at the big banks, to make them pay their own way, to make them pay taxes.

00:00:34.000 When the big mega-central banks wrote this, and when you read it, it allows them to levy taxes, value-added, on all financial transactions.

00:00:43.000 Not just banks, on your check, on what you cash, on your stocks, on your bonds, on credit unions.

00:00:51.000 The big banks wrote this, but just like in 1913, they were able to take over our issuance of currency and credit from the Congress, which is illegal and unconstitutional.

00:01:00.000 They pushed that through as an anti-banking bill to punish the bankers, the robber barons.

00:01:07.000 And here's Gordon Brown in November, in December, and in January.

00:01:10.000 It's all in the article saying, this is global government, this is world government, this will punish the banks when the banks wrote this.

00:01:18.000 That's how they do it.

00:01:19.000 They use deception.

00:01:20.000 And in England, and in Europe, and in the United States, they are trying to pass, quote, banking reform bills that they admit in these articles and in the document, plug into the international agreement.

00:01:32.000 The new bank of the world.

00:01:34.000 Global governance is here.

00:01:39.000 We're going to be covering that more later.

00:01:41.000 Meanwhile, GOP seeks SEC records on Goldman Sachs between them and the White House.

00:01:46.000 So the plot is thickening on that front.

00:01:50.000 Now, I want to get into the latest developments dealing with the Tea Parties.

00:02:02.000 It's very elementary.

00:02:04.000 What's happening is, The system is coming out and saying, if you criticize the private banks, if you criticize the private Federal Reserve, if you criticize the banker bailouts, if you criticize that they won't tell Congress where trillions of dollars went, if you do that, you're basically a terrorist.

00:02:20.000 And I don't have to tell you this is going on.

00:02:22.000 Anybody who listens to radio, anybody that reads the newspaper, anybody who Spends any time watching the news knows this is everywhere.

00:02:32.000 I mean, I hardly watch any television every time I turn it on when I'm on the treadmill or late at night or the YouTube videos I've sent by listeners.

00:02:39.000 It's just 24-7 saying that all the tea parties are racist. 0.98

00:02:46.000 The American people are evil. 0.95

00:02:48.000 What does racism have to do? 0.95

00:02:51.000 With not wanting to pay trillions to foreign banks.

00:02:54.000 What does racism have to do with not wanting the government to take over healthcare and cut benefits out of the American people when the insurance companies actually wrote the scam?

00:03:02.000 You've heard Ron Paul here on the show document that.

00:03:04.000 It's not just me saying that.

00:03:05.000 You heard Lord Monckton last week agree.

00:03:07.000 Anybody who's read the bill, and I have, that's what it does.

00:03:11.000 Now, these are just three video clips and audio clips from just the last two days.

00:03:22.000 Here's one article.

00:03:24.000 CFR journalist calls Tea Party talk seditious, illegal.

00:03:30.000 And that's Joe Klein, Council on Foreign Relations member.

00:03:33.000 If you read the public bi-monthly book, they put a book out on newsstands, not a newspaper, not a magazine, it's a book, it's a paperback book, calling for world government and telling you how great it is.

00:03:46.000 He's saying it is seditious to criticize the government.

00:03:49.000 Then we've got a clip of Michael Savage.

00:03:52.000 A new clip, not the last two clips where he said Obama will blow up a Capitol building or carry out a Reichstag attack to set up martial law, which I agree. 0.98

00:04:02.000 Now he's talking about the Tea Parties where the Democrats have been caught dressing up like Nazis with swastika signs.

00:04:08.000 They've now been caught.

00:04:08.000 We told you this a month ago.

00:04:10.000 It's been mainstream news since last Monday for over a week and a half.

00:04:13.000 They have been caught and they did what they promised.

00:04:15.000 They went out to Tea Parties from New Mexico to Texas to Oregon to New York City to D.C.

00:04:23.000 in Nazi outfits with swastikas.

00:04:26.000 We've shown you those photos and videos.

00:04:28.000 The black congressional caucus has been caught going out trying to start fights.

00:04:31.000 No one's calling them in word.

00:04:33.000 No one's spitting on them.

00:04:34.000 This is another form of false flag, but they're not going to stop there.

00:04:39.000 They are going to blow up some federal buildings.

00:04:41.000 They're going to engage in terror attacks, guaranteed, it's the only card they've got, to blame it on us, to try to shut down our political speech.

00:04:48.000 Because we are telling the truth.

00:04:49.000 We are constitutionalists.

00:04:51.000 We're standing up for the law of the land.

00:04:53.000 And there's nothing these people can do to shut us up, but stage events and blame them on us.

00:04:59.000 It is very, very elementary and simple.

00:05:02.000 And coming up in about 20 minutes, I'm going to play An excellent eight-minute analysis, uh, when false flags don't fly by James Corbett.

00:05:11.000 Very powerful.

00:05:12.000 I mean, this is, this is five stars.

00:05:14.000 This is, I give this guy a 99, okay?

00:05:16.000 And I don't think I'd ever give myself even a 99.

00:05:19.000 Uh, you know, if you're grading a speech.

00:05:23.000 I don't know, I guess that was about a hundred that I did in front of the Bilderberg Group that time, uh, in, um...

00:05:30.000 In Canada, bullhorning the Bilderberg.

00:05:32.000 But it's as good as it gets.

00:05:34.000 Very powerful, very focused.

00:05:36.000 This is more of what we need to see.

00:05:38.000 So that's coming up.

00:05:38.000 Very effective.

00:05:41.000 Let's go ahead and play this short clip of CFR journalist calls Tea Party talk seditious on Slimeball with Chris Slimenson.

00:05:49.000 Here it is.

00:05:50.000 We just watched Sarah Palin and she said, un-American.

00:05:54.000 Now she said it was just his policies, not him.

00:05:56.000 But those words are license words.

00:05:58.000 They're permission words.

00:06:00.000 I did a little bit of research just before the show.

00:06:02.000 It's on this little napkin here.

00:06:04.000 I looked up the definition of sedition.

00:06:07.000 Which is, conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state.

00:06:13.000 And a lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck, and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, were right next, right up close to being seditious.

00:06:24.000 And you know, Joe's right, and I'll name another person.

00:06:27.000 You know, name me Baird.

00:06:29.000 Who uses this phrase constantly, talks about the Obama administration as a regime.

00:06:33.000 That phrase, which which has connotations of tyranny.

00:06:35.000 And what's so interesting about it to me, to get to Nora's point, what is the focus?

00:06:39.000 What's the cause of this?

00:06:40.000 You think back to 1994.

00:06:41.000 There was Ruby Ridge.

00:06:43.000 There was Waco.

00:06:44.000 They were triggering incidents.

00:06:45.000 There's been nothing like that.

00:06:46.000 OK.

00:06:47.000 And they go on and on, basically saying we're terrorists.

00:06:50.000 So, if you say, I don't want tyranny, gun control's tyranny, open borders is tyranny, federalization of local police is tyranny, I mean, by every yardstick, they've had big universities do an analysis and find the U.S.

00:07:03.000 is the number six police state in the world.

00:07:05.000 I mean, is Mexico a tyranny?

00:07:07.000 Is North Korea a tyranny?

00:07:08.000 They're ahead of us.

00:07:10.000 North Korea's number one. 0.98

00:07:12.000 We're number six, folks, and I don't want to move up towards number one.

00:07:16.000 This is not a laurel or a prize.

00:07:21.000 It's kind of like they say in that movie, Talladega Nights, if you're not first, you're last.

00:07:29.000 Or what's the corny thing they say in that movie?

00:07:33.000 You're not first, you're last?

00:07:34.000 Yeah.

00:07:35.000 Well, no, this is something where we want to be last.

00:07:38.000 We don't want to be first for this.

00:07:40.000 And it's both parties.

00:07:42.000 I mean, Republicans, who are mainline Republicans, they should love Obama.

00:07:46.000 Continuing wars, continuing secret arrests, continuing torture, hiring nothing but lobbyists, continuing all of this corruption, continuing all of Bush's executive orders, continuing Bush's cybersecurity, takeover of the Internet.

00:07:59.000 There is no difference with Obama on real issues.

00:08:05.000 Oh, Bush was supposedly anti-abortion, kind of halfway.

00:08:09.000 He was for the assault weapons ban.

00:08:12.000 So there they are saying sedition.

00:08:14.000 Now this is what Michael Savage, again I rarely play other talk show hosts, but when Rush Limbaugh says Obama may stage events and Michael Savage is saying it every week now, I mean this is from Monday, we've got to give credit where credit's due because these guys reach tens of millions of people and I don't like being alone.

00:08:31.000 I don't want to be the leader.

00:08:33.000 I don't want to be the one guy who's right.

00:08:35.000 I don't want to be the one person who's got the courage to say this, okay?

00:08:39.000 Believe me.

00:08:40.000 I like to walk point, but I'd like to rotate with other people.

00:08:43.000 I'd like there to be more targets out there.

00:08:45.000 I don't like to be the only person telling the truth here.

00:08:48.000 And so, here is Michael Savage talking about this on Monday.

00:08:51.000 Here it is.

00:08:52.000 They want you to react.

00:08:53.000 Don't you understand what Obama's doing with his little men?

00:08:55.000 You can turn it off now.

00:08:57.000 His little men on the left are trying to provoke you into a violent act so they can declare you the illegitimate ones.

00:09:04.000 Don't take the bait.

00:09:06.000 They want the Tea Party to explode.

00:09:08.000 They have probably sent the Jean Provocateurs in there with guns.

00:09:11.000 I can guarantee you that this government is going to do something along those lines whether it's sooner or later.

00:09:17.000 It's going to happen and I'll make another prediction on this show right now.

00:09:20.000 Because it doesn't take a genius to know what this illegitimate band of gangsters is going to do next.

00:09:25.000 I'll make it very clear for you.

00:09:26.000 This illegitimate group of gangsters is not only going to cause a violent Action somewhere in America that is not conducted by the Tea Parties, but by an agent provocateur that they sent into the crowds, along the lines of what the left has done from the beginning of the left, okay?

00:09:41.000 But the October surprise that they have in mind for this world is not to be imagined.

00:09:46.000 Because they know they're going to lose.

00:09:47.000 If they ever played it fair and square, A, number one, they wouldn't be in power today.

00:09:51.000 That's to start with.

00:09:52.000 If they ever played it fair and square, the illegal aliens never would have been... And he goes on to say they're going to stage a Reichstag event. 0.87

00:09:59.000 Now, the whole video is up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:10:02.000 Why is this important?

00:10:04.000 Well, as soon as the Republicans get back in, they're going to start blowing stuff up.

00:10:08.000 Okay?

00:10:09.000 I mean, this is what governments do now.

00:10:11.000 And we've got a big, dirty, corrupt government who's desperate and who has, what, a 10% approval rating for Congress now?

00:10:17.000 A 9% for Nancy Pelosi? 0.98

00:10:20.000 Even lower than Dick Cheney?

00:10:22.000 When governments get in trouble and they're corrupt, they start staging terror.

00:10:28.000 We're going to cover the history of that coming up in about 12 minutes.

00:10:31.000 But here's another clip.

00:10:34.000 And we'll play this when we come back from break.

00:10:37.000 Washington Post writer, internet journalism is sort of like terrorism.

00:10:43.000 And we're not even looking for these clips.

00:10:44.000 They're just everywhere.

00:10:46.000 So they're now equating criticizing the government and internet journalism with terror.

00:10:51.000 Because the alternative media has now surpassed the mainstream media in 2010.

00:10:56.000 That's mainline numbers.

00:10:58.000 The studies also show people vastly trust the alternative media more than they trust the mainstream media.

00:11:04.000 Which is actually kind of scary.

00:11:05.000 There's a lot of BS out in the alternative media too.

00:11:08.000 I mean, we try to get it right and we get it wrong sometimes.

00:11:11.000 A lot of people out there just making stuff up.

00:11:13.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:11:14.000 People know the mainstream media is organized and deceptive and they trust the alternative media a lot more.

00:11:20.000 And so they have this whole discussion about terrorism and not knowing how to target the alternative media.

00:11:27.000 So they're really getting desperate because the mainstream media is dying, the government's in deep trouble falling apart, they're circling the wagons together and saying they want to shut down freedom on the web and have a rigged game because they're losing because they've been discredited because they've been caught lying millions of times.

00:11:42.000 I mean literally, just constant lying.

00:11:45.000 Hundreds of millions of parrots up on a tree squawking lies.

00:11:49.000 We'll be back with that and a lot more.

00:11:52.000 And they've had another fake raid out in California to create that illusion that there are all these terrorists.

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00:15:58.000 So, on every major news program...

00:16:13.000 Lonesome highway They have pundits out there saying that criticizing the takeover of America is seditious, is illegal, borders on terrorism.

00:16:25.000 You've got Clinton saying, look, if you don't stop criticizing the government, it's going to cause someone to stage a terror attack.

00:16:31.000 And gee, I hope that doesn't have to happen so we can then silence you.

00:16:35.000 I mean, it's a very thinly veiled threat.

00:16:38.000 Washington Post columnist who appeared on CBS Face the Nation on Sunday described he Partiers is potential violent and decried internet journalism as sort of like terrorism.

00:16:49.000 It's Pulitzer Prize winning Kathleen Parker.

00:16:54.000 is a commentator with the show you can watch the whole eight-minute club upon prison planet dot com in our article washington post writer internet journalism sort of like terrorism is gonna play a short clip of this lesson opinion that comes uh... from various places like during uh... lincoln's day every newspaper had an editorial point of view but this person said the difference was in those days you knew which paper it was coming from now you don't know where some of this is coming from and and that is

00:17:23.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:17:28.000 People will say anything when they have the cloak of anonymity.

00:17:32.000 It's sort of like terrorism.

00:17:33.000 You know, we don't know where to aim our bombs.

00:17:37.000 We can't go after a country because there are You know, there's no one place to focus on.

00:17:42.000 And it's the same thing with the Internet.

00:17:45.000 You can't really, you don't know who to go after.

00:17:47.000 And you and I, I'm sure, you share some of the wonderful experiences I've had of being attacked and threatened and whatnot.

00:17:54.000 And it sort of feeds on itself, you know, builds.

00:17:58.000 And people who are So there you have it.

00:18:10.000 Anybody criticizing the government or who is angry, you don't have a real reason to be angry or upset.

00:18:16.000 You're just not well-grounded. 1.00

00:18:17.000 You've got a mental problem. 1.00

00:18:19.000 And you're like a terrorist. 1.00

00:18:20.000 You know, these bloggers online are basically kind of like terrorists. 0.83

00:18:23.000 But the host of the show, Bob Schaeffer, you can hear part of the clip, but before that he was talking about Lincoln.

00:18:32.000 You know, we had free speech under Lincoln.

00:18:34.000 No, he arrested hundreds of newspaper editors in the North who were against the war.

00:18:39.000 He even arrested a member of Congress.

00:18:43.000 So I guess what he's saying is, under Lincoln, we knew where they were.

00:18:45.000 That's kind of a veiled threat for those that know history.

00:18:48.000 And they keep modeling Obama like he's the new Lincoln.

00:18:53.000 They were saying this when he was running for office, that the nation may fall apart, but he'll hold it together, and he's going to deal with the states.

00:18:59.000 They knew the states were going to rebel.

00:19:01.000 against all this unconstitutional activity.

00:19:02.000 And so they've been writing books about him as if he's the second coming of Lincoln.

00:19:06.000 They've been preparing everyone that when Obama has to crack down on the terrorists, on the states' rights people, on the people that don't like the foreign banks taking over, that are angry at Wall Street, that he's going to be just like Lincoln, he is going to come in there and he is going to put his foot down in a big, he is going to come in there and he is going to And he is going to save the republic and we'll have big marble statues to him, Thank God we've got Barack H. Obama.

00:19:34.000 Meanwhile, he always talks about reconciliation, everybody be friendly, come on, don't have bad rhetoric, Republicans, you know, conservatives, libertarians, shut up.

00:19:42.000 Meanwhile, all his surrogates are out on TV and in the newspapers, and Bill Clinton's out there saying, we're going to cause terrorism, those of us that don't like them and are criticizing them.

00:19:51.000 We don't have a right as Americans to criticize what they're doing.

00:19:53.000 We're going to cause violence.

00:19:54.000 We're racist. 0.96

00:19:57.000 Because they don't want Hispanics and black people who are angry about higher taxes and less jobs and unemployment and government corruption and the government tripling under Bush and even growing faster under Obama. 1.00

00:20:09.000 People are mad.

00:20:10.000 That's why the polls show over 40% of the Tea Partiers are Democrats or Independents.

00:20:15.000 Oh, they're scared of that, the people getting together, getting outside the left-right paradigm.

00:20:19.000 Coming together to save the country.

00:20:21.000 So they're saying, racism!

00:20:22.000 It's racism!

00:20:23.000 It's evil!

00:20:24.000 It's hate! 0.66

00:20:25.000 It's the Ku Klux Klan!

00:20:26.000 It's bad! 0.72

00:20:27.000 It's terrorism!

00:20:28.000 It's... And then meanwhile, they've had a bust in California.

00:20:32.000 And when you read deeper into the AP and other articles, There's no bombs, no evidence of bombs.

00:20:37.000 They went and busted some white supremacist gangs that the prisons basically create because you're either in a Hispanic gang, black gang, Asian gang, or white gang, or you don't live.

00:20:46.000 And they segregate them in the prisons and jails like this in California.

00:20:50.000 So they busted some white supremacist gangs that are saying they think it may lead to bombs.

00:20:55.000 They think they may have bombs, and they try to tie it into the Tea Party.

00:21:00.000 I mean, what does gang violence in the prisons have to do with the Tea Party?

00:21:04.000 But again, it's just like the Hatari militia. 0.54

00:21:06.000 They didn't do anything.

00:21:07.000 They didn't have any weapons.

00:21:08.000 The Feds have now put out their affidavit.

00:21:10.000 They've now been in court.

00:21:11.000 Their prime evidence is Mr. Stone, the head of the Hatari, saying, man, the government's getting out of control and waging war on us. 0.99

00:21:21.000 We might have to fight back against them.

00:21:25.000 I mean, that sounds like something George Washington would say.

00:21:28.000 So now you don't even have that free speech.

00:21:30.000 And they go and arrest you.

00:21:31.000 But they're engaging in all these busts, so people are kind of halfway paying attention to the newspaper and TV and radio here.

00:21:37.000 Oh, there's militias.

00:21:38.000 Oh, there's white supremacists.

00:21:40.000 So the media can then tie that in to anybody criticizing the government ahead of the government false flag event.

00:21:46.000 We'll cover false flags when we come back.

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00:25:24.000 We're going to be going to your phone calls here after I play this video clip.

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00:28:05.000 Okay, when false flags don't fly.

00:28:09.000 And this is James Corbett of the Corbett Report, just doing a fabulous job, so I wanted to air this here.

00:28:19.000 It's a good eight-minute boil-down of what governments do and how they operate, and a call to action to warn everyone that the groups that control our government, the illegitimate criminals, are clearly prepping the population for sustained, staged terror.

00:28:35.000 Here it is.

00:28:36.000 Those who have studied history know that nothing invigorates and empowers an authoritarian regime more than a spectacular act of violence.

00:28:45.000 Some sudden and senseless loss of life that allows the autocrat to stand on the smoking rubble and identify himself as the hero.

00:28:53.000 It's at moments like this that the public, still in shock from the horror of the tragedy that has just unfolded before them, can be led into the most ruthless despotism.

00:29:01.000 Despotism that now bears the mantle of security.

00:29:05.000 Acts of terror and violence never benefit the average man or woman.

00:29:09.000 They only ever benefit those in positions of power.

00:29:13.000 This is why Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

00:29:16.000 It gave him a chance to throw out the Christians to the lions and rebuild the capital of the Roman Empire in his own image. 0.99

00:29:22.000 This is why Hearst and the warmongers of the emerging American Empire were delighted by the destruction of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1898.

00:29:29.000 It gave them the excuse they needed to rouse the public into supporting the Spanish-American War.

00:29:35.000 This is why Israel attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 during the Six-Day War, strafing and torpedoing it relentlessly for hours in a vain attempt to send it to the bottom.

00:29:45.000 The Israelis believe that the loss of the Liberty could be blamed on Egypt and draw the Americans into war.

00:29:51.000 This is why there are hundreds of documented examples of government staging attacks in order to blame them on their political enemies.

00:30:00.000 In every civilization, in every culture, in every historical period, authoritarians have known that spectacular acts of violence help to further consolidate their own power and control.

00:30:11.000 And sadly, throughout history, there have been all too many willing to allow attacks to occur, to pretend that attacks have occurred, or even to attack their own population in order to further their political agenda.

00:30:22.000 To think that such staged provocations and false flag attacks no longer occur would be as unrealistic as believing that human nature itself has changed.

00:30:31.000 That powerful people no longer seek to increase their power.

00:30:34.000 That influence is never used for deceit or manipulation.

00:30:36.000 That lies are no longer told to satisfy greed or slake the thirst for control.

00:30:41.000 It is to believe that our society is immune from those things that we have seen in every other society, in every other era.

00:30:47.000 In short, it's a dangerous delusion.

00:30:51.000 The people are once again learning the power of this delusion.

00:30:53.000 They are learning the extent to which they have been lied to.

00:30:56.000 They are once again studying their history.

00:30:59.000 The Russians are learning how the FSB was caught planting bombs in Moscow in 1999 during a terror scare that swept Putin into power and stirred the public into supporting the Second Chechen War.

00:31:09.000 They are learning how their autocratic ex-president came to power campaigning on the graves of those his old FSB cronies had killed.

00:31:17.000 The Israelis are learning how Mossad has been caught time and again posing as the very Muslim terrorists they claim to be opposing.

00:31:24.000 They're learning how Israel uses the specter of terror to further extend their blank check drawn on American funds to expand their police state at home and maintain their hardline stance.

00:31:33.000 The world's sixth largest nuclear superpower supposedly threatened by the possibility that one of their neighbors may one day obtain a single nuclear weapon.

00:31:42.000 The British are learning how their SAS officers were caught dressing up as Arabs in Iraq, driving around with trucks full of munitions, shooting at police to stir up ethnic tensions, and ensure that permanent bases could be built in the region.

00:31:55.000 They're learning how Harun Aswad, the supposed mastermind behind the 7-7 bombings, was working for British intelligence.

00:32:02.000 They're learning how British military intelligence took part in IRA bombings.

00:32:06.000 The Indians are learning how the Mumbai attack was helped by a U.S. 0.95

00:32:09.000 agent who is cooperating with investigators so that he won't face questioning by foreign authorities.

00:32:15.000 The Canadians are learning how their own provincial police dressed up as protesters in 2007 and threatened violence against other police in order to force a crackdown on peaceful protests.

00:32:26.000 And the Americans.

00:32:28.000 The Americans are learning that there were multiple bombs found, dismantled, and taken out of the Alfred P. Murrah building on April 19, 1995.

00:32:36.000 They are learning that Timothy McVeigh had written a letter to his sister in which he claimed to be in the Special Forces for the U.S.

00:32:43.000 Army.

00:32:44.000 They are learning the bombing was being directed by FBI informants, just as the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was.

00:32:53.000 They are learning about 9-11 and the Gulf of Tonkin and Operation Northwoods and their own army counterinsurgency manuals that teach officers how to commit false flag attacks to blame on their enemies.

00:33:04.000 In short, the people are learning the truth.

00:33:09.000 And now, we see the same build-up to a false flag event taking place that we saw in 1995.

00:33:15.000 At that time, the U.S.

00:33:16.000 had a corporate media desperate to fling mud at anyone concerned by the actions of their government, and it had a government that was desperately unpopular.

00:33:25.000 Today, we see the exact same factors at play.

00:33:29.000 If anything, the situation today is worse than it was in the run-up to the Oklahoma City bombing, with media consolidation meaning that groups of concerned citizens like the Oath Keepers are being attacked by the controlled minions on both the left and the right.

00:33:42.000 And now, it is not just the militia that is being demonized by the establishment.

00:33:47.000 It is veterans and gun owners, third-party supporters and libertarians, anti-war protesters and human rights campaigners, people who are upset with a government giving trillions to the banks that have engineered our current financial crisis.

00:34:01.000 In short, everyone is now a potential terrorist according to the governmental and media agencies that deign to limit our range of acceptable opinion and control dissent.

00:34:11.000 Even the word terrorist means something more than it did back in 1995.

00:34:16.000 Now, after the false flag attack of 2001 allowed the passage of the Patriot Act, after the boogeyman of Al-Syedah gave the NSA the opportunity to announce that they were collecting everyone's emails and everyone's telephone calls, after the former White House press secretary came out and admitted that the Bush administration had made up terror threats in order to scare the people into supporting the government, now we know what the real definition of terrorism is.

00:34:41.000 It is governments scaring their own populations into line.

00:34:46.000 But there is something else that's different now from what it was in 1995.

00:34:50.000 The people are learning something else about terrorism.

00:34:53.000 They are not terrorists for speaking out against their government.

00:34:58.000 They are not terrorists for wanting the government to stop selling their children into servitude to paid bankers their bonuses.

00:35:05.000 They are not terrorists for pointing out that the FBI and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 are behind every major international terrorist event.

00:35:14.000 The people are not terrorists because they do not want to see more death.

00:35:19.000 They do not want more destruction.

00:35:21.000 The spilling of the blood of their fellow citizens is not in their interests.

00:35:26.000 Death and destruction only ever serve the governmental and financial and industrial interests who always grow in power and wealth in the wake of every tragedy.

00:35:37.000 Time and again, the people pay with their lives and the governments and the banks and the war machine only grows and prospers.

00:35:45.000 The people do not want terrorism because it does not benefit them.

00:35:48.000 It only benefits the existing power structure.

00:35:53.000 And this time, if there is another staged event to blame on the government's enemy of the day, the people will know who to blame.

00:36:03.000 For the Corbett Report in Western Japan, I am James Corbett.

00:36:07.000 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, there is the Corbett Report.

00:36:19.000 Absolutely.

00:36:20.000 Excellent job.

00:36:20.000 You can go see the video up at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

00:36:24.000 The article that has the text of what you just heard is titled, When False Flags Don't Fly.

00:36:30.000 Let's go ahead and take calls now.

00:36:32.000 Let's talk to Ronnie in Texas.

00:36:34.000 Ronnie, you're on the air.

00:36:36.000 Thank you, sir.

00:36:36.000 It's Ronnie.

00:36:39.000 Two quick shockers. 0.99

00:36:40.000 One, death panels were paraded as a solution openly.

00:36:44.000 And B, our sacred constitution shredding is destroying our First Amendment.

00:36:48.000 At the same time, here yesterday at the Travis County Commissioner's Court Session, the commissioners received a report on the necessity for progress on so-called President Barack Obama, Bankster Tuge, Barry Sitaro's health scare scam.

00:37:01.000 Their advisors Who run the hospitals here actually admitted that one main problem for all of us to get our proper share of our ever so limited resources, the problem was that the expensive care needed for only a few sick old individuals was eating up our precious resources for the rest of us.

00:37:19.000 And when I was allowed to speak, I pointed out that that talk about cutting off the care for those two expensive old individuals who are too sick, too old, that means death panels.

00:37:29.000 And regardless, the commissioners then voted 5-0 in favor, in effect, of death panels.

00:37:35.000 And by the way, I'm still banned from 75% of the Austin City Council.

00:37:39.000 That's right, Ronnie, I appreciate your call.

00:37:45.000 You know, Tom Daschle, who wrote the original bill, wrote a book about death panels and how they're good.

00:37:49.000 Europe has them, England has them.

00:37:52.000 They've said that they're going to reduce care to the old people and people who have chronic illnesses.

00:37:57.000 That's collectivism.

00:37:58.000 They take your wealth, even if you can buy your own health care, and they say how much health care you can get.

00:38:04.000 They tax your health care, they tax your insurance, they make you buy insurance, and then they lower your standard of care.

00:38:11.000 And in a collectivist system, they then play everyone off against each other.

00:38:17.000 This is what is done.

00:38:18.000 They then say, oh, that person's smoking, that person's drinking, that person's eating red meat, and we say that's bad, and so they're going to have to pay more taxes, or we're just going to deny them health care.

00:38:29.000 And yes, the bioethicist boards that have been set up in the last 20 plus years, and I've had Wall Street Journal writers on, you name it, about it.

00:38:39.000 In many cases where old people or people that are paralyzed but can still talk, and we've covered these cases on air, when the state gets custody of them, they turn their water, they turn their food off, they kill them. 0.98

00:38:51.000 And this is going on all over the country, it's going on all over Europe, and when we say we don't want it, they say, you're crazy, it doesn't exist.

00:38:58.000 You know, that's dangerous rhetoric.

00:38:59.000 Don't say there are death panels, or you may blow up a building.

00:39:02.000 You're not allowed in America to actually read what we're really doing.

00:39:06.000 But again, the insurance companies wrote the legislation where they force you to buy their health care, and then the government lets them cut the quality of the care.

00:39:14.000 And doesn't let doctors engage in medicine, the HMOs and others get to say what type of health care you get.

00:39:20.000 So instead of a knee surgery you need, you get a shot of cortisone.

00:39:24.000 A $50 shot instead of a $2,000 surgery.

00:39:26.000 And that's what they're pushing for.

00:39:28.000 Good points, Ronnie.

00:39:30.000 Julio in Illinois, you're on the air.

00:39:33.000 Alex Jones, excited for the 3 o'clock premiere.

00:39:36.000 It's been about a year since I watched the Satoru Deception and man, your films have been powerful.

00:39:42.000 You inspired me to do much and to continue this peaceful fight for the InfoWars.

00:39:46.000 So I want to thank you, sir, and all the InfoWars crew for what they've done.

00:39:50.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:39:52.000 Anytime.

00:39:53.000 Secondly, you said this on your Sunday show about two weeks ago, talking about behavior, deception, television, somewhat of an Aurelian state.

00:40:02.000 Coincidentally enough, I was watching CNN on Sunday morning, two weeks ago, Reliable Sources, talking about the exact same thing, talking about PepsiCo getting sponsorship in some 30 Rock show.

00:40:15.000 But also, it's not really a shock that corporate media has been doing this, multinationalists.

00:40:21.000 If you look back with Operation Mockingbird, Prescott Bush was, you know, a director of CBS News at one point back in the 50s with RCA, Radio Corporation of America, to push forward propaganda during World War II.

00:40:35.000 What do you think is going to continue next?

00:40:37.000 I mean, we see the precedent with, you know, these false-like nuclear attacks.

00:40:42.000 Toro's talking about terrorists are more dangerous with a nuclear weapon than we are.

00:40:47.000 I mean, what's gonna happen next?

00:40:49.000 We see, you know, Wood Blitzer bowing down to Bill Clinton.

00:40:53.000 Well, I'll tell you, Julio, what's going to happen next.

00:40:55.000 They're going to stage shootings and bombings and blame it on gun owners, conservatives, people who don't want to go under this banking dictatorship they're setting up right now.

00:41:04.000 And they may set off a nuke and blame it on Iran. 0.68

00:41:08.000 I mean, every guest we've been talking to, you heard Dr. Bob Bowman, former head of Air Force, Star Wars program, You know, saying he agrees that's the number one threat.

00:41:20.000 Tarpley, who's really got a good crystal ball, agrees.

00:41:23.000 Many others.

00:41:24.000 Michael Savage agrees.

00:41:26.000 Rush Limbaugh's now coming out.

00:41:28.000 I mean, this is what they're going to do.

00:41:29.000 They know what they've done is so illegal and so bad, and they're clearly saying, you guys are going to cause terror.

00:41:35.000 Get ready for it.

00:41:36.000 It's going to be your fault.

00:41:38.000 Who benefits from this?

00:41:39.000 Who has the motive?

00:41:40.000 Who's done it in the past?

00:41:41.000 I mean, this is very clear what they're doing.

00:41:43.000 They're framing us right now.

00:41:45.000 Let's talk to James in Illinois.

00:41:46.000 James, you're on the air.

00:41:49.000 Hello?

00:41:51.000 Yes.

00:41:52.000 Well, I'm a first-time caller, and I just picked you up about three months ago.

00:42:00.000 I did not know that anybody thought like I did.

00:42:06.000 Well... I'd say about 30% of the population conservatively thinks like you do.

00:42:10.000 The news just is there to make you think you're alone.

00:42:13.000 Boost that up some.

00:42:15.000 Okay, I'm living in the armpit of society.

00:42:19.000 I'm living in a hole-in-the-road area, okay?

00:42:25.000 Stuck in the 1940s and 50s.

00:42:30.000 Well, okay.

00:42:33.000 James, get your point together.

00:42:34.000 I'm going to come back to you briefly on the other side, okay?

00:42:37.000 We're going to go to break.

00:42:37.000 Don't hang up.

00:42:38.000 We'll come back to you.

00:42:38.000 Then Joe, Scott, and others.

00:42:40.000 And then we've got Catherine Austin Fitz coming on to join us. 1.00

00:42:44.000 Then we've got former head of the FBI in Southern California in the L.A.

00:42:47.000 area.

00:42:49.000 Ted Gunderson joining us.

00:42:50.000 It's been a long time since he's been on.

00:42:52.000 He'll be joining us from his hospital bed via cell phone.

00:42:55.000 This should be interesting.

00:42:56.000 We'll be right back.

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00:45:06.000 Did you know that in a real meltdown, non-hybrid seeds can become more valuable than silver or gold?

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00:45:59.000 Okay, let's go back to James in let's go back to James in Illinois What's your point about living in an armpit?

00:46:26.000 Go ahead.

00:46:27.000 Oh, man.

00:46:29.000 I'm a volunteer fireman, 37 years.

00:46:33.000 Volunteer fireman.

00:46:35.000 I have seen a lot of stuff, but I tell you what, the stuff that's going down now scares the living crap out of me.

00:46:44.000 Okay, I'm talking about anhydrous, uh, methamphetamine making it out of anhydrous ammonia and Sudafed and, uh, battery acid and whatever.

00:46:56.000 Salt.

00:46:58.000 Okay.

00:46:59.000 So you're seeing a lot of, you're seeing a lot of drugs in your area.

00:47:03.000 I'm seeing a lot of drugs in my area.

00:47:05.000 Okay.

00:47:06.000 I, I'm also seeing, uh, a lot of negative things.

00:47:11.000 Okay.

00:47:11.000 You, you was, uh, I'm a first time listener.

00:47:15.000 Until three months ago, I did not know you even existed.

00:47:24.000 I didn't even know what your name was, you know.

00:47:27.000 Well, a lot of people don't know who I am.

00:47:29.000 Oh, send me some literature.

00:47:34.000 Whatever.

00:47:35.000 Okay, James.

00:47:36.000 James, I appreciate your call.

00:47:37.000 Just visit InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and it's good to have you on board.

00:47:42.000 Joe in Maryland.

00:47:43.000 Joe, you're on the air.

00:47:44.000 Hey, Alex.

00:47:45.000 Thank you for taking my call.

00:47:47.000 You know, I didn't hear about you either until a few months ago.

00:47:53.000 This guy in front of me had a bumper sticker on his pickup truck that said 9-11 wasn't an inside job.

00:47:59.000 Learn the truth at InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com and that's how I found out about you.

00:48:05.000 So I ended up being a member of We Are Change recently down here in Maryland.

00:48:12.000 We went to go hear Ralph Nader talk and I asked him a question about the Federal Reserve and gave him a copy of Fall of the Republic.

00:48:19.000 So I was calling to let you know I gave Ralph Nader a copy of Fall of the Republic.

00:48:24.000 Awesome!

00:48:28.000 What do you think the odds are that we're going to enter hyperinflation?

00:48:33.000 We've had a lot of different economists that I really respect on, and they debate it, whether the elite is going to continue depressing the economy, or whether they may do something new, depressing the economy while having inflation, or even hyperinflation.

00:48:47.000 So I guess it would be hyper-stag inflation, or hyper-depression.

00:48:54.000 But they're starting to talk about raising interest rates, and that could start an increase In inflation, we know the government cooks the books on inflation, that they manipulate the numbers on that.

00:49:07.000 They also manipulate the numbers on unemployment.

00:49:09.000 But we know that everything we buy costs more than it did a few years ago.

00:49:13.000 But that's not hyperinflation yet.

00:49:16.000 The biggest issue is the globalists have a combination of depression in the real economy, but inflation or devaluation of the dollars.

00:49:26.000 So they're trying to balance the two together.

00:49:29.000 But that's like balancing, you know, cancer with a hole in the head.

00:49:32.000 You know, a gunshot wound to the head.

00:49:34.000 I mean, both are bad.

00:49:36.000 Both add on to each other.

00:49:38.000 And that's because we live in a rigged economy.

00:49:40.000 Anything else?

00:49:42.000 That was it.

00:49:43.000 Thank you for taking my call.

00:49:45.000 I appreciate your call from Maryland.

00:49:47.000 Scott in California, you're on the air.

00:49:49.000 Mr. Jones, it is a privilege to talk to you.

00:49:52.000 Go ahead.

00:49:53.000 Hello?

00:49:55.000 Yes, you're on the air.

00:49:55.000 Go ahead.

00:49:56.000 Can you hear me?

00:49:57.000 Yes, I can hear you just fine.

00:49:59.000 I listen to you on 1340K1Y in Santa Cruz, and you are a humble man, sir.

00:50:04.000 I appreciate you that you do not use this platform to prop up your ego, as so many other people who would get pulled in by our society of performers.

00:50:17.000 You, sir, are a modern-day May Brussell, although I'm I'm pretty sure you probably don't look as good in a dress.

00:50:22.000 And I used to listen to her in our car.

00:50:25.000 I'll tell you what, coming up at the 8 after, we've got our guests joining us.

00:50:28.000 We're going to come back, have you finish up with your point, Scott, and then we're going to go to Mark and a few others.

00:50:35.000 And then we've got Catherine Austin Fitz joining us.

00:50:37.000 Stay with us.

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00:52:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:52:20.000 All right, we've reached the halfway point in this worldwide broadcast.

00:52:32.000 The global government has announced officially what we told you four months ago they were setting up.

00:52:38.000 We have a very clear view of the next step in the global banking dictatorship, and we've got Katherine Austin Fitts, an expert on this, joining us in the next segment.

00:52:47.000 But right now, I wanted to go back to Scott in California.

00:52:51.000 Listening to us on one of Michael Swerling's great stations out there in the Santa Barbara areas going into San Francisco.

00:52:58.000 And Scott, go ahead and finish up the point you wanted to make.

00:53:02.000 Well, I was just saying that I had parents that listened to Mae Russell and made me listen to her as well.

00:53:08.000 And taught me how to think, not what to think.

00:53:12.000 So I want to thank you for carrying the baton of truth.

00:53:16.000 and teaching people how to think instead of what to think.

00:53:19.000 So kudos to you.

00:53:21.000 When I was in a debate club, we were taught that when your opponent resorts to ad hominem attacks, the debate is won if you can keep your emotions about you and continually to think rationally.

00:53:32.000 So Tea Party members, take heart, because our opponents cannot debate the issues because you're racist, you're terrorist, you're any other kind of ifs.

00:53:43.000 Just keep your head down.

00:53:44.000 Don't give in to the anger that you're going to feel, because they're only going to turn that anger and fear into abuse. 0.94

00:53:50.000 Well, I agree, but even more, you need to rebuke them as worse than racist, because it's one thing to be an ignorant racist, it's another to consciously try to turn groups against each other in a cold-blooded way. 0.95

00:54:01.000 I mean, that is horrible. 0.79

00:54:05.000 I was talking to a friend about this and the New World Order, and I keep telling him, you know, you don't realize what they are doing to you and how they're controlling the way you think.

00:54:14.000 But I keep using this ambiguous them.

00:54:18.000 So I was thinking, we need to have the leaders of the New World Order, maybe like when we went into... Baseball cards!

00:54:29.000 Yeah, the baseball cards, or playing cards, and have these guys On record, some sort of tangible item that you can hand people, and if we can ever get these people arrested, put them behind bars, you know, you put a big stamp on it, and that way this can get passed around.

00:54:47.000 I don't know if anybody in your team would be willing to... Well, my problem is there's so many globalists, you'd have to make about 20 decks of cards, and people have done something similar.

00:54:55.000 I've thought about it.

00:54:56.000 We could have the Bankster deck.

00:54:59.000 The political criminal deck, the police state deck, the New World Order occult deck, and it's a great idea and a lot of people thought of it.

00:55:09.000 It's just the time and energy that would go into it.

00:55:12.000 I can make a film that gets seen by 20 million people online and so all my time goes into the films and radio because per capita They're the best bang for the buck in the time and the energy.

00:55:24.000 But it's a great idea, and we've actually promoted some of the folks out there that do have these card decks.

00:55:30.000 Some of the card decks I agree with.

00:55:31.000 Some really, I don't think, have the power structure right.

00:55:33.000 But I know that's a great idea.

00:55:35.000 But somebody needs to come out with a whole line of these cards, but also have them very inexpensive.

00:55:40.000 Some people that have made them at such limited runs, they want to get their money back so they're expensive.

00:55:45.000 They need to be super cheap, like two, three bucks a deck, so people can buy these decks en masse and give them to everybody they know.

00:55:53.000 But we're thinking about making a deck.

00:55:56.000 I've been wanting to do it for more than a decade.

00:55:57.000 Anything else there, Scott?

00:56:00.000 A couple of questions, sir. 0.96

00:56:02.000 Are you planning on committing suicide? 0.98

00:56:05.000 Well, no.

00:56:06.000 I will never kill myself, and if the government says I did, it's a lie.

00:56:11.000 Well, thank you for putting your life on the line and helping to awaken the human consciousness.

00:56:16.000 The love of money is the root of all evil.

00:56:18.000 How long before we as a species start valuing people for what they bring to the table of ideas instead of how many ones and zeros that can be transferred between accounts in a nanosecond?

00:56:28.000 Alright, I appreciate your call.

00:56:30.000 I appreciate your call.

00:56:31.000 I'll answer that briefly when we come back.

00:56:33.000 And we're going to Catherine Austin Fitts.

00:56:35.000 We'll give you her website.

00:56:37.000 One of the most informed guests we interview, and I really am thankful for her time.

00:56:44.000 We'll be talking to her when we come back out of this quick break, and we'll also give you her website as well.

00:56:54.000 Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen.

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01:00:00.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show Because there's a war on for your mind Okay, I had a caller in California Saying that he wanted my comments on money being the root of all evil

01:00:28.000 And that's a cliche that's used, and there's some truth to it, but it's more money-changing.

01:00:34.000 Fraudulent money dealings.

01:00:37.000 Fractional reserve banking.

01:00:38.000 I mean, what did Jesus Christ do?

01:00:39.000 He went into the temple, and the scribes and Pharisees made you buy your sacrifice of a dove or a calf, whatever it was you were buying for the sacrifice.

01:00:50.000 For the remission of sins, you know, under Jewish law, they would make you buy it with a certain very rare coin, a silver coin, that silver-wise didn't have a lot of value, but because it was a rare coin and scarce, you had to pay for it with a bunch of gold. 0.52

01:01:06.000 And that's what he went in and overturned.

01:01:08.000 The fact that they were turning it into a business, people in there, you know, carrying out their sacrifice.

01:01:15.000 People say, well, why sacrifice something for your sins?

01:01:17.000 You're saying, I'm giving something up.

01:01:19.000 I'm giving some valuable food up that I could sell or I could eat.

01:01:22.000 You know, I'm saying, you know, to God, this is the main focus.

01:01:27.000 You know, I'm giving something up for this.

01:01:29.000 You're most important.

01:01:30.000 You are my idol.

01:01:32.000 No other idols before you.

01:01:34.000 And I look at it as a hierarchy of needs.

01:01:38.000 If somebody can make a billion dollars without hurting someone and doing good in the process, that's wonderful.

01:01:44.000 But money can't be the top of your pyramid.

01:01:47.000 It's a hierarchy of needs.

01:01:48.000 I mean, my hierarchy of needs is I love my family, I love my children.

01:01:52.000 I mean, I woke up last night in the middle of the night and was just like almost having a vision of just a beautiful ocean and a sunset and how beautiful that is and how I just want to go live by the seashore and, you know, hang out with my family and oil paint.

01:02:05.000 I mean, don't we all wish we could do that?

01:02:08.000 And just this pull to quit, this ever-increasing drive to stop doing what I'm doing.

01:02:16.000 The frustration that I have to be here every day fighting these people because we have no future if we don't fight them.

01:02:21.000 And my anger at them.

01:02:23.000 This isn't some ego trip.

01:02:24.000 It's not fun out here fighting the New World Order.

01:02:27.000 It is survival.

01:02:29.000 But things get twisted.

01:02:30.000 The system then says, give the government all your money.

01:02:32.000 We're going to help the poor.

01:02:34.000 Don't love money.

01:02:35.000 But really, they're using that, your well-meaning guilt, to get your money, to get control of your life, so they can make you dependent.

01:02:42.000 I believe it's good for people to be wealthy.

01:02:45.000 I like it when people are doing well.

01:02:46.000 I like seeing healthy, happy people with nice houses and swimming pools and plenty of food.

01:02:51.000 I know that also tends to bring decadence.

01:02:54.000 But it's good to be able to have a car that doesn't break down.

01:02:57.000 It's good to be able to travel.

01:02:58.000 It's good to be able to pay for medicine for your family.

01:03:01.000 But would you kill somebody for an iPad? 0.93

01:03:03.000 Would you kill somebody for 500 bucks in their wallet? 1.00

01:03:05.000 Would you kill somebody for a billion bucks? 1.00

01:03:08.000 Would you plant WMDs in Iraq? 0.98

01:03:10.000 Would you stage a 9-11?

01:03:10.000 And so...

01:03:14.000 I don't believe money, or even the love of money, is the root of all evil.

01:03:18.000 Because, you know, if you like being successful and comfortable and secure, I guess you could call that love, but is that what you love the most?

01:03:27.000 You know, what do you idolize first?

01:03:29.000 The truth, honor, telling the truth?

01:03:34.000 Because the hatred of money then almost turns into another class envy system.

01:03:39.000 And then they use the underclass to rob the middle class, and the elite is manipulating that. 0.76

01:03:44.000 So it's very sophisticated.

01:03:45.000 And Catherine Austin Fitz, I really appreciate you joining us.

01:03:48.000 Solari.com.

01:03:49.000 S-O-L-A-R-I.com. 0.89

01:03:52.000 She's an Investment Advisor, Founding and Managing Member of Solari Investment Advisory Services, Entrepreneur, President of Hamilton Securities Group, Investment Bank and Financial, Government Official, Assistant Secretary of Housing, Federal Housing Commissioner under Bush 41, Investment Banker, Managing Director, and Member of the Board of Wall Street Firm, Dillon Reed & Co, Inc.

01:04:12.000 Doesn't get any more elite than that.

01:04:14.000 Well, we're talking about two investment models.

01:04:16.000 in transactions and investments to date, and has led portfolio strategy for $300 billion.

01:04:20.000 And it goes on and on.

01:04:21.000 And valuable information at Solari.com.

01:04:25.000 And thank you for coming on with us.

01:04:27.000 Would you like to comment on your view about money?

01:04:30.000 And is the love of it the root of all evil?

01:04:33.000 Well, we're talking about two investment models.

01:04:36.000 The old investment model, which is in the process of changing, and I'd like to talk about the new one, too.

01:04:43.000 But the old one says, as long as I have a positive return to me or my shareholders, and what I'm doing is lawful, that's okay.

01:04:53.000 Okay?

01:04:53.000 So, if you go to the Texas Pension Funds where you are, if you go to the Tennessee Pension Funds, and you say to them, what impact is it having on your communities that you're putting this money in these mortgage-backed securities?

01:05:04.000 They'll say, I don't know, because I'm not responsible to understand My impact on the greater ecosystem, I leave that to government.

01:05:12.000 And we're going into a world, Alex, where we're going to come up with a new model, and the model's going to look like this.

01:05:18.000 And the model's going to say, OK, you have a return to your investors or your shareholders or your family or your pension fund beneficiaries, but then you have an impact on your financial ecosystem, you know, in the greater world.

01:05:32.000 So we want to make sure that our investments have a positive return to the system and a positive return to us.

01:05:38.000 And we use the information of understanding the impact of our investments to protect ourselves against risk.

01:05:44.000 So, for example, if all the state pension funds, all the union pension funds, all the corporate pension funds in this country had said, I want to understand the impact my money is having on my financial ecosystem, it would have protected them For making investments that were ultimately going to lose the money because they would have seen, wait a minute, if I'm destroying the middle class and wiping out the middle class, I can't possibly be good for my investments in municipalities and places.

01:06:12.000 I'm going to lose money on this ultimately if I do things that are harmful.

01:06:15.000 So we're going from an investment model where people didn't need to understand their participation Participation in the ecosystem to one where they're going to have to be much more awake about what their impact is, because that's going to be an essential risk management tool in a world that's much more global, much more integrated, and where capital's moving much faster.

01:06:38.000 So, what we're literally talking about is a complete reinvention.

01:06:42.000 It's simple, but it's profound in terms of your operations, if you're running money.

01:06:46.000 A real invention of the investment model.

01:06:49.000 Okay, I should have pointed out at the beginning, I had you on a few weeks ago about the problem and how this operation works, who we're facing, what they're setting up, the model they want, who they are and what the establishment wants, versus your idea and others' idea of how to have a non-destructive, non-predatory system.

01:07:10.000 But just going back to what the caller was asking me, There's this other idea that ever having any wealth is bad in and of itself, when in truth, don't good people need to get in a position of being sustainable?

01:07:21.000 One of the most powerful spins that the New World Order promotes is that wealth is bad.

01:07:27.000 And let me tell you something, that's not coming from the grassroots, that's coming from the top.

01:07:31.000 Because if everybody who's got a solution says wealth is bad, then they're going to keep sending their money to Wall Street.

01:07:40.000 Nobody's going to shift their retirement capital into a group of people and a new model that says wealth is bad.

01:07:47.000 You know, we've all worked, you know, we have a whole generation now, Alex, that have worked their entire life.

01:07:52.000 Many of them worked very hard to accumulate this capital.

01:07:56.000 And this capital is the one thing standing between their family and the abyss.

01:07:59.000 So the last thing we need to say is, oh, that's bad.

01:08:02.000 That's good.

01:08:02.000 That's what's protecting people.

01:08:04.000 So, in fact, what we need is an investment model that says optimization and the creation and the building of wealth is good.

01:08:14.000 Because it is.

01:08:14.000 You know, there's no such thing as too much energy.

01:08:17.000 The question is how you channel and use it.

01:08:19.000 Because money's just a tool.

01:08:21.000 Exactly.

01:08:22.000 The robber baron class has written in many policy papers that they're waging war against the middle class that allows the working class to have upward mobility.

01:08:31.000 United States, one of the few countries in history that's had a large middle class.

01:08:34.000 That trend's now reversed.

01:08:36.000 It's disappearing.

01:08:36.000 And it's always the big central banks that push for the income tax, that push for command and control, because it's the ultra-rich robbing the rest of humanity.

01:08:45.000 And they want a two-tier, tiny elite, giant underclass system where no one can ever challenge them.

01:08:50.000 Now, for those that just joined us, and I'm going to sit back on this hour now and give you the floor, recap briefly, going into break, who the elite are, the type of economy they've set up, where we're going, so people understand how important it is to go with your alternative.

01:09:06.000 Well, that's the $64,000 question.

01:09:09.000 You know, who are they?

01:09:11.000 And I can only talk from what I know, because I'm not, you know, I'm not sitting in the privy.

01:09:16.000 Well, tell folks their model.

01:09:17.000 Tell them.

01:09:18.000 I mean, essentially what you have is at the very top of the investment hierarchy.

01:09:24.000 On this planet, you have intergenerational pools of capital that are controlled and owned by private families.

01:09:30.000 They're unbelievably centralized, and they operate through a whole series of bureaucracies, which you described, which is the, you know, the central banks and the insurance industry and the Bilderbergers and the Council on Foreign Relations, and there's umpteen billion secret societies coordinating all the stuff because it's a big planet.

01:09:49.000 But at the very, very top, you have a small number of huge intergenerational pools of capital that have remarkable control, and it is remarkably centralized and very planned.

01:10:00.000 And we've reached the point where we've had a real breakdown in alignment of the interests of the folks at the top.

01:10:08.000 And everybody else.

01:10:09.000 So they kind of feel they're much better off with unbelievable control.

01:10:14.000 And I'm afraid if you look at the agricultural and other policies, it's clear that we are on a trajectory for significant, I would predict significant depopulation.

01:10:28.000 So there's a real breakdown in interest.

01:10:31.000 If you look at all the people in our society, Alex, are saying this is wrong and this is wrong.

01:10:36.000 They're talking about the money's wrong or the corruption's wrong or Wall Street's wrong or 9-11's wrong or vaccines are wrong.

01:10:43.000 All of those things are symptoms.

01:10:45.000 They're symptoms of the fundamental problem, which is the governance problem, which is who's in charge?

01:10:51.000 And why are they destroying significant amounts of freedom and wealth?

01:10:56.000 Because our problem in this world is not that there's too much wealth.

01:10:59.000 You're watching the centralization of economic control in a way that is significantly reducing wealth.

01:11:05.000 Significantly reducing wealth.

01:11:08.000 Yeah, they've sold the kind of underclass that wealth is what's hurting them.

01:11:12.000 No, it's that there's not enough wealth and we can turn the engine of wealth loose and we can colonize the stars.

01:11:18.000 It's unlimited.

01:11:19.000 There's enough for everybody.

01:11:20.000 It's really funny.

01:11:21.000 In the 1990s, I started a company in Washington and called Hamilton Securities Group.

01:11:26.000 And coming out of the Bush administration, I said, you know, entrepreneurs are going to have to get government money out of communities and we're going to Turn this thing around.

01:11:33.000 And we were putting together a plan where small business had easy access to all the information about how money worked in their place, including government contracts, which is, as you know, a big part of the economy.

01:11:44.000 And they also could put together little venture funds and mutual funds for their communities.

01:11:49.000 Stay there.

01:11:49.000 Let's talk about your plan that got nixed.

01:11:52.000 On the other side, Catherine Austin Fitts is our guest.

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01:15:57.000 Catherine Austin Fitts, one of the highest levels of the federal government, managing hundreds of billions of dollars.

01:16:06.000 And her colleagues...

01:16:10.000 Discovered that this trend was beginning to basically steal all the wealth and destroy wealth.

01:16:15.000 And now we have the big banks saying they want a world government.

01:16:18.000 We're going to pay a value-added tax on all financial transactions.

01:16:21.000 That's how they're going to get the banks.

01:16:23.000 But the money's paid to the elite banks.

01:16:25.000 So...

01:16:27.000 We've got to identify this threat, but not just identify it, we've got to talk about other alternatives to use the power of currency and credit to build healthy communities.

01:16:38.000 Catherine Austin Fitz, please continue with the plan.

01:16:41.000 Yes, so I'm telling you about the time when I discovered how huge the opportunity was.

01:16:46.000 Because I didn't understand in the 90s, Alex, until this happened, how much the system is being used to shrink wealth.

01:16:53.000 In other words, you know, to keep people Poor.

01:16:57.000 Anyway, so we're doing this thing where we're making software tools.

01:17:01.000 We made a software tool called Community Wizard, which would allow anybody in a community to dial in and see, you know, because if we look at the U.S.

01:17:09.000 budget, we see here's how the money works in housing or military.

01:17:12.000 We never see it contiguous to the areas that we vote for representation.

01:17:16.000 So you never see it sourced and used as a government appropriations contract and credit for your congressional district, which is, of course, what you need to hold your congressman accountable.

01:17:26.000 So, anyway, so we took relational database technology and we reconfigured all the databases so that you could start to look at your money by place.

01:17:35.000 And we were putting together venture funds and mutual funds for your neighborhood.

01:17:39.000 So you could literally put your 401k in a pool that would invest in local businesses and you could, in theory, you could trade and, you know, you could go to Bloomberg and see what your neighborhood was trading at, in theory.

01:17:51.000 So we're working away at this, and I had this smart guy, it's a PhD from MIT, absolutely brilliant.

01:17:59.000 He's the smartest guy at the company.

01:18:01.000 And I said, okay, let's assume that we re-engineer all the government money so that we optimize total equity in the 3,100 counties, because America just breaks down into 3,100 counties.

01:18:12.000 So let's say we completely changed how we did the government money so that we could create as much business wealth, whether it's big companies or small companies.

01:18:23.000 And he went off and did the numbers, Alex, and he came back and I looked at him and I said, that's impossible.

01:18:30.000 Within a short period of time, we could get a six times multiple of total equity outstanding in the country alone, let alone globally.

01:18:38.000 And I just couldn't believe it.

01:18:39.000 So I made him go back and do the numbers a couple times and dug in and did the numbers, and I realized, oh my God, we're spending the entire federal budget the way that totally shrinks innovation, entrepreneurship, cuts off Capital to so much of the healthy economy, which is what you're seeing now in the way the credit crunch is being engineered.

01:19:00.000 We're shutting off money to all these different productive sectors, and if we stop doing it, the wealth could be enormous.

01:19:08.000 I mean, you know, there's really no reason for there to be poverty at all.

01:19:12.000 We have the resources.

01:19:13.000 And part of it is, you know, because you've covered this, is the sort of, you know, suppression of new technology.

01:19:20.000 And I was astonished and I, you know, for about a week I just walked around laughing.

01:19:24.000 I couldn't stop laughing because I realized, you know, there's plenty of money.

01:19:28.000 There really is no problem at all.

01:19:30.000 And then, of course, the Department of Justice teased our offices and stole all the databases and kept them under lock and key for six years, which is when I discovered, you know, that there really is an intentional effort to channel capital and restrict it in a way that really keeps things very much under control.

01:19:46.000 And we're running the economy To achieve centralized control, not to achieve wealth.

01:19:52.000 If anything, we're trying to reduce the middle class to a state of, you know, not having the wealth that really supports freedom.

01:19:59.000 Because our Constitution and our freedoms, Alex, really depend on not being, not having our digital data and our physical bodies and our money controlled by somebody else very centrally.

01:20:15.000 And should that even be surprising to us?

01:20:18.000 You look at the Japanese feudal model.

01:20:20.000 You look at the European continental model of the last thousand years.

01:20:23.000 You look at the British model of the last 800. 0.80

01:20:26.000 You look at all of these systems.

01:20:28.000 It was written down in handbooks by the royalty and their lords.

01:20:32.000 To keep people at a subsistence level to make them more easily controlled.

01:20:37.000 I mean, this is the way the world has always worked.

01:20:40.000 It was only the Renaissance and the Enlightenment that reversed that.

01:20:43.000 And then we saw all these inventions and technology and wealth and the non-existent middle class suddenly appeared.

01:20:50.000 Right.

01:20:50.000 And so now we have a new problem.

01:20:52.000 And if we're going to solve, if we're going to build a new alternative to the new world order, then we have to grapple with some of the issues that they're legitimately grappling with.

01:21:01.000 Which is, we have new powerful communications and digital technology, and that technology, Alex, allows some groups to have phenomenally high learning speeds.

01:21:12.000 And what has happened in this country is some people have shot way ahead and, you know, gone much faster, whereas other people have sat back and said, I don't want to change, but what I want is I want to continue to get my check.

01:21:24.000 And so we've had a political process in this country which wasn't democracy, It was simply politicians buying electorates with their own money.

01:21:31.000 Stay there, let's talk about that, because the elite are creating a giant domesticated mass that they can use as a weapon against the tiny middle class that's left.

01:21:40.000 Then once they get rid of them, they remove the chicken feed from their slaves.

01:21:43.000 Katherine Austen Fitz, Solari.com, stay with us.

01:21:50.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

01:21:54.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:22:00.000 Hello, this is Alex Jones with some important questions.

01:22:03.000 If you're going into a battle and they give you a rifle and a sidearm, how much ammunition do you want?

01:22:08.000 My answer would be all I can get.

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01:22:15.000 How much do you want?

01:22:16.000 When do you want it?

01:22:17.000 Now or after the battle starts?

01:22:19.000 When will you need it?

01:22:20.000 Can you buy it without proper identification?

01:22:23.000 Will there be any food?

01:22:24.000 Will it make your children sick?

01:22:25.000 If there's a quarantine and you can't feed yourself, will you go to the gathering center and be immunized?

01:22:31.000 You wipe out all these problems if you have a good food supply.

01:22:34.000 Food is your ammunition to fight for your freedom and your life.

01:22:38.000 How much will you need?

01:22:39.000 We don't know.

01:22:40.000 How much do you want?

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01:24:01.000 We are part of a new world order.

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01:24:06.000 Invisible empire is a damning indictment of the globalists through their own words and documents.

01:24:12.000 The new world order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.

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01:24:21.000 The Trilateral Commission would control the world.

01:24:24.000 Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence have worked in stealth for centuries to establish an oppressive world government.

01:24:32.000 I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.

01:24:38.000 Global governance with the establishment of the G20.

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01:25:16.000 We're going right back to Katherine Austen-Fitz here in just a moment with her discovery that the system knew that there was almost unlimited wealth generation capacity and that they didn't want that.

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01:26:10.000 Okay, Catherine Austin Fitts, for those that just joined us, Assistant Secretary of Housing, Federal Housing Commissioner for Bush 41, investment banker, portfolio strategy of over $300 billion in financial assets and liabilities.

01:26:25.000 She's designed and closed over $25 billion of transactions herself.

01:26:29.000 She, of course, was on the board of Dylan Reed and the Just a top analyst out there.

01:26:36.000 Such a great financial brain.

01:26:38.000 We're honored to have her.

01:26:40.000 Catherine, continuing where we left off with you have this awakening, you discover from the numbers that the system is designed to suppress wealth.

01:26:49.000 Please continue.

01:26:50.000 So I went through, it took me about 10 years to finish learning how to litigate successfully with the federal government.

01:26:58.000 But what I discovered, Alex, is real solutions are going to have to come from the grassroots.

01:27:03.000 And the important question is not how do we turn this around, but how do we get energy turning it around?

01:27:09.000 Because what we have to do, every person listening to this call is being drained by this process.

01:27:15.000 And what we need to do is reverse the drain.

01:27:17.000 We need to reverse the drain in our individual lives, and then in our family, and then our community, and it goes out.

01:27:24.000 And so, you know, if you come to one of our websites that says, Redeeming the Monetary System One Customer at a Time, So we have to do this individually.

01:27:36.000 Can't wait for the big solutions on high.

01:27:38.000 We're going to have to turn this around ourselves.

01:27:40.000 And so the question I've been working on since then, whether it's me personally or in my businesses, is how do I start to get back my power And how do I prevent the drain in my life?

01:27:53.000 Because essentially, if you look at our money, we're all being harvested by the system, and so that's what we have to do, is we need the wealth growing, and we need it in a way which it's growing in your pocket, in my pocket, in the pocket of everybody listening to this call.

01:28:08.000 Okay?

01:28:09.000 So if they want a wealth-destroying model, we want a wealth-building model, and the way you do that is by building your wealth and my wealth and the wealth of everybody on this phone call.

01:28:18.000 Okay?

01:28:19.000 So one of the things I'd like to do is to walk through, let's look at each person's time and our health and our money and just make some simple suggestions of what we can do to reverse the drain in our lives.

01:28:31.000 And if all of us start to do it, it's going to have an unbelievably dramatic effect on shifting power and wealth out of the New World Order and much more into the grassroots.

01:28:42.000 Um, so let's just talk about an individual.

01:28:45.000 And the first most important thing you have to do, Alex, is you have to protect your time, because time is so...

01:28:51.000 So valuable in this environment, and I just want to tell everyone, and they probably know it because they're listening to the Alex Jones Show, but we've got to get radical about getting unreliable people and information out of our lives, particularly corporate media.

01:29:06.000 I mean, if you look at what's going on, you don't even have the time to be entertained by the disinformation, because it's such a complete waste of time.

01:29:16.000 So please turn off corporate media.

01:29:18.000 I want to tell you, you know, I often tell people to bank locally, and I'm often asked, you know, well, it's much more convenient, or isn't it really okay to bank at the big banks?

01:29:31.000 And I just want to tell a story of what happened to me in the last week.

01:29:35.000 In the last three days, my company has gotten hit by two unauthorized ACHs, electronic transfers from big banks.

01:29:44.000 It's going to take us five to seven hours this week just to reverse them.

01:29:48.000 And it's not going to be a problem for us because we have a great local community bank.

01:29:52.000 But that's the kind of tax these guys put on people.

01:29:56.000 You know, you literally just wake up and they've taken money out of your account that's not authorized.

01:30:00.000 It's incredible.

01:30:01.000 And that's why you want to get as far away from these guys.

01:30:04.000 You don't want them to have an authorization to dip into your account because then things like this are going to happen.

01:30:12.000 You there?

01:30:13.000 Yes, I'm here.

01:30:14.000 I'm just, I'm just listening to you.

01:30:16.000 So get radical about getting these people out of any relationship with you that can eat up your time.

01:30:21.000 Okay, so that's number one time.

01:30:23.000 Number two is health.

01:30:24.000 Get radical about environmental pollution.

01:30:27.000 I just did a Hilaria report on chemtrails, just because I want people to understand the kind of poisoning that literally, you know, I have so many subscribers who take wonderful care of themselves.

01:30:37.000 They're responsible about their health.

01:30:39.000 You know, they eat the right food and everything, so they think they're okay.

01:30:43.000 And we need to understand we're not.

01:30:44.000 And whether it's chemtrails or vaccines or any, all the things you've covered, these really are enormous stresses and strains on our immune system and a buildup of toxicity that can really hurt a person.

01:30:59.000 And I'm an investment advisor, Alex, and there's nothing that will hurt your financial position more than bad health.

01:31:05.000 I mean, bad health is really the cause of more More bankruptcies and financial problems in this country than anything else.

01:31:13.000 Well, since you're cueing me to interrupt, I'm trying to be polite because I want to hear what you have to say.

01:31:17.000 I'll interrupt.

01:31:18.000 And again, I'm not up here on a mountain.

01:31:19.000 You can be quiet, Alex.

01:31:20.000 It's unnerving.

01:31:22.000 No, but I don't want to sit up here on a mountain because I'm certainly not as healthy as I should be.

01:31:27.000 But absolutely, you know, the Bible says that you've got to get your temple clean and your self clean first.

01:31:33.000 Before you can start fixing your life and then your city, your county, your state, the world.

01:31:38.000 And so we've all, number one, got to feel good about ourselves.

01:31:42.000 Realize that this Madison Avenue system is there to make us feel insecure so they can then sell us their false illusions.

01:31:47.000 We've got to feel good about ourselves.

01:31:49.000 We've got to get our relationship with God going again.

01:31:51.000 And we've got to realize that we've got to take action against this evil and just start taking a walk every morning.

01:31:56.000 Start eating healthier.

01:31:57.000 Stop drinking fluoridated water.

01:31:59.000 I mean, there's a reason and the evidence has been very clear on this.

01:32:04.000 We've reached the point where if you walk into the average, you know, typical grocery store, the food is not safe to eat.

01:32:11.000 And that's done by design.

01:32:13.000 I mean, the globalists are poisoning the food and water.

01:32:15.000 They have genetically engineered the crops.

01:32:17.000 Every major crop they found just so happens to make you sick.

01:32:21.000 Just so happens to give you stomach problems.

01:32:23.000 Just so happens to reduce fertility. 0.82

01:32:25.000 No, they've been caught engineering it into these.

01:32:27.000 I mean, they know what they're doing.

01:32:29.000 If you have any doubt about this, there's a wonderful DVD made in 2006.

01:32:33.000 It's up online.

01:32:34.000 You can get it on my blog.

01:32:35.000 It's called Killer at Large.

01:32:37.000 And it really focuses on what they're doing to the children with the food.

01:32:41.000 And I, you know, particularly if you're kids or grandkids, please watch Killer at Large.

01:32:46.000 You know, there's another great one, Super Size Me.

01:32:49.000 There are lots of great DVDs on the food system, but making sure that you and your family have fresh food and clean water without fluoridation and all the chemicals is so, so important.

01:33:00.000 And then I would include in the health area the ability to protect yourself.

01:33:04.000 So, getting the proper training in, you know, if you want to bear arms, great.

01:33:09.000 Protecting the right to bear arms and doing whatever you have to do to protect yourself.

01:33:13.000 Now, for people who are in a county where you have a great sheriff and you can communicate with your sheriff and you have the right sheriff and police support, that's great.

01:33:21.000 But more and more, Alex, many of us are not, you know, in that.

01:33:24.000 We, two years ago, we had to organize to All the women, or I should say all the women, a whole bunch of us in the Hickory Valley Women's Club went out, bought guns, got training, got our permits.

01:33:36.000 And, you know, there was lots of jokes about everybody who was married to somebody in the Hickory Valley Women's Club had to sleep with a, you know, a bulletproof vest.

01:33:46.000 But, you know, we haven't had any problems since then.

01:33:49.000 So part of health in this environment is making sure you know how to protect yourself and your family, and that probably is going to require some training and some time.

01:33:57.000 Then the third category after time and health is money.

01:34:01.000 And there are so many things we can do with our money to completely shift, you know, stop the drain from happening because the inflation, Alex, is killing us.

01:34:10.000 And it's funny because I constantly say to subscribers, Why have your money in a money market account when you can put your money in tangibles?

01:34:18.000 Any non-perishable that you know you're going to use in the next two years, if you buy it now, given the inflation, I mean, we've seen food prices up 6% or more so far this year, so if you put it in a non-perishable and just let the value of that inventory go up, then in fact you don't have to pay tax on that capital gain, and you're getting a much better yield than you are in the money market.

01:34:41.000 So there's a fundamental shift going on between tangibles and financial assets.

01:34:47.000 Tangibles are just going to keep getting more and more valuable, and that has a radical impact on how we think of our investments.

01:34:54.000 You know, a lot of people say, "Oh, well, you need to be diversified." And what they mean by that is you need to have different kinds of corporate securities in your brokerage account.

01:35:04.000 That's nonsense.

01:35:05.000 What you need to do is have money outside of the brokerage system and be much more invested in tangibles and carry much less debt, because debt has risks involved.

01:35:16.000 You know, I may be getting a higher yield on my investments than I'm paying on my mortgage, but there are real risks associated to having with debt, and now as people are losing their jobs, we're all discovering that.

01:35:27.000 It's very important, Alex, to get radical about lowering our overhead and radical about lowering our debt.

01:35:34.000 Getting rid of things we don't need, focusing on what's important and finding out you didn't need most of this junk.

01:35:40.000 What you really need is your freedom.

01:35:41.000 Now, going back though, comprehensive annual financial reports.

01:35:45.000 We know they started in Chicago in the forties.

01:35:48.000 It was adopted nationwide in the fifties.

01:35:50.000 A double set of books.

01:35:51.000 County, city, school districts, water districts, universities, federal Well, they thought they were getting a good return.

01:35:59.000 that are their investments, and then they have their supposed budget, which they always have a shortfall on, but that's only a small part of what they're doing.

01:36:06.000 And now they've tricked the counties, the cities, the public pension funds, the private pension funds and others to invest in the derivatives, in the banks, because they were getting a good return.

01:36:18.000 Now we hear all these states...

01:36:19.000 Well, they thought they were getting a good return.

01:36:21.000 They were getting a good return until they started to lose money.

01:36:24.000 Exactly, but that was the big setup.

01:36:27.000 And so now we've got Bloomberg and others reporting the federal regulators are ordering the public pension funds to, quote, invest in failed banks.

01:36:38.000 Since when can regulators order The heads of the pension funds to invest in quote, failed banks.

01:36:46.000 That sounds like a pretty bad investment.

01:36:47.000 When somebody comes to me and says, look, I've done everything I can to turn around the drain on my own finances and my family.

01:36:54.000 I've got extra time.

01:36:56.000 I want to be involved in my community.

01:36:57.000 The first thing I say is, you know, the New World Order is pulling a ton of money out of your community through local, state, and government, through the pension funds.

01:37:07.000 And if you can simply understand the game, bring transparency, and start to turn that around, the opportunities for wealth creation are absolutely phenomenal, Alex.

01:37:17.000 And it's just so huge that no one can even imagine how big it is.

01:37:21.000 But I agree with you.

01:37:22.000 If you look at our state and local government finances, let's start with a simple one.

01:37:28.000 The job engine in this country is small business, okay?

01:37:32.000 So you have great local families with great local businesses, whether they're banks or stores or other operations in your community.

01:37:40.000 They are the job engine.

01:37:42.000 They are the thing that's keeping your community going in many respects.

01:37:46.000 And if you look at the government bank deposits, the government investments, the government contracts, the government purchases, those are going not to those great local businesses or the great businesses in the state that cut it.

01:38:01.000 They're going out to places like Wall Street.

01:38:04.000 So I always use the example of the food stamp program here in Tennessee.

01:38:08.000 We have counties in Tennessee, Alex, that have 25% unemployment rate.

01:38:13.000 But meantime, we are outsourcing our data servicing and customer support on our state food stamp program.

01:38:22.000 Are you ready for this?

01:38:23.000 To JPMorgan Chase in India.

01:38:26.000 So jobs that could be being done in Tennessee and counties where there's... Because these are digital.

01:38:31.000 You can shoot these with telecommunications anywhere.

01:38:33.000 Exactly.

01:38:34.000 Even the bureaucracy to deliver the welfare of dependency has been globalized to make sure that none of the money ever gets back to the community.

01:38:43.000 Right.

01:38:43.000 And nobody connects the dots because that knowledge, those databases... Well, here's another example I saw on the AP last week with a Texas case and the legislator's complaining.

01:38:52.000 They're taking existing roads Giving stimulus money to Centra of Spain to come in and put toll roads on it, and paying them stimulus money to put the toll road gates and license plate reading cameras in, and it came out that's illegal to use stimulus money for a toll road, but they just don't care.

01:39:12.000 I mean, this is incredible.

01:39:14.000 Well, it's incredible.

01:39:15.000 I mean, in my little town of Hickory Valley, there was a proposal to put up a cell tower at our city hall and use a government grant to do it when private parties were going to own it.

01:39:27.000 But the government was going to pay, I think, for half of it.

01:39:29.000 It's unbelievable!

01:39:31.000 So, you know, the money is clearly out of control.

01:39:34.000 And I think, you know, we're seeing incredible polls in the last two weeks.

01:39:39.000 Rasmussen Polls basically, in an election between Ron Paul and Obama today, they're basically even.

01:39:47.000 And we've seen other polls, Alex, showing that people of all parts of the political spectrum agree more with the Tea Parties than they agree with any political party, Republican or Democrat.

01:39:57.000 And so you're watching a very powerful unification start to happen around, you know, Americans' belief in the Constitution and the importance of running the money clean.

01:40:07.000 You know, simple, basic issues.

01:40:10.000 And now with April 15th behind us, wanting Nobody wants taxation without representation, which is really where we've gotten with the bailouts and now with the health care bill.

01:40:20.000 And so I think you're starting to see a very powerful new consensus emerge in America, which is our real opportunity, saying, wait a minute, you know, this system has no legitimacy.

01:40:32.000 It has no legitimacy under the Constitution.

01:40:35.000 It has no legitimacy under the law.

01:40:37.000 And the funny thing, the conundrum, the weakest you remember in Star Wars, where they have the hole in the Death Star.

01:40:47.000 The Death Star has one vulnerability?

01:40:50.000 Yes.

01:40:50.000 Let me tell you where the vulnerability is for the New World Order.

01:40:53.000 You know, the hole in their Death Star.

01:40:56.000 And that is that as a bureaucracy, they have promoted all sorts of wonderful things.

01:41:03.000 The most wonderful being the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

01:41:07.000 And the second most wonderful being all sorts of fiduciary laws related to the money.

01:41:12.000 And if you look at their operation, they are in direct and intentional violation to criminal standards on those two laws.

01:41:23.000 And what is happening that's so powerful is the Tea Party group, the other people rising up and saying, this is wrong.

01:41:33.000 Have embraced constitutional principles, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, and all the fiduciary laws related to money.

01:41:41.000 And so you've got a very interesting switch of what the Chinese call the Mandate of Heaven, because the Tea Party and Ron Paul and his group have got the Mandate of Heaven according to, you know, hundreds of years old traditional Let me just interrupt.

01:41:59.000 I mean, to boil it down, the banks, the offshore corporations are engaged in a hostile corporate takeover.

01:42:05.000 It's purely illegal.

01:42:07.000 They raise our taxes for corporate welfare to be paid to them by the government.

01:42:10.000 They also come in and buy off the city managers to invest most of our tax money in their derivatives.

01:42:17.000 So that's another tax to the private banks.

01:42:19.000 It's illegal.

01:42:21.000 And now the people are finally waking up and going, wait a minute, a bunch of made-off criminals Ken Laytives are running our society!

01:42:29.000 Right, and let me tell you what people are waking up to, because people have known it was criminal for a long time, and the question was always what we do about it, but they're coming to the same point I came to in 1998, which was, you know, this thing is so perverted, and is so without any, you know, it's so empty of any meaning and value, I want nothing to do with it, and I would rather be out in the wilderness.

01:42:54.000 I'd rather die in the wilderness than be part of the New World Order. 0.78

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01:46:03.000 The oligarchs, the Anglo-American establishment, have written hundreds of books, thousands of white papers, bragging about the system they're setting up.

01:46:12.000 And people 50 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, would warn the public, and they would laugh at them.

01:46:20.000 But because people have been out there telling the truth, now that world government's being openly announced, people are going, whoa, this was real, and they're seeing that it's predatory.

01:46:30.000 You know, I get these emails all the time about, it'll be like Star Trek.

01:46:34.000 I'm a humanist.

01:46:36.000 It's the next level of humanity.

01:46:37.000 No more wars.

01:46:38.000 We'll all be together.

01:46:39.000 No, it's a global government waging war on you, humanity. 1.00

01:46:43.000 That's what these people out there that support world government, the useful idiots, don't understand. 1.00

01:46:48.000 And powerful words from Catherine Austen Fitz at the end of that segment saying, I'd rather die than be in the New World Order. 0.99

01:46:55.000 I wanted her to be able to finish that statement and then continue through this segment and the next.

01:47:00.000 Go ahead, Catherine.

01:47:02.000 Well, what I was saying was, I was in the middle of litigation in Washington in 1998 when I made the decision, and Alex, you know, everything was corrupt.

01:47:12.000 I was dealing with folks from the Department of Justice and the courts and my own attorneys, and it just went on and on and on and on.

01:47:20.000 At one point, I finally realized these people don't believe in the law of any kind.

01:47:28.000 It's what Leonard Cohen said, they're blinded by the beauty of their weapons.

01:47:33.000 And ultimately, an economy and a civilization can't be based on force and greed.

01:47:38.000 That's not enough to keep something going.

01:47:41.000 And, you know, if you look at the great empires throughout history, they had something more than simply guns and greed.

01:47:49.000 And so, you know, I remember saying, look, we need another plan.

01:47:53.000 This is not going to work. 0.91

01:47:56.000 And I would rather be dead than be part of it because it's too perverted. 0.93

01:47:59.000 I mean, it's just if you if you look at the sexual practices, if you look at the cultural practices, it's just too perverted. 0.90

01:48:07.000 Now, let me speak in defense of some of the top guys.

01:48:10.000 What they say is the crowd always votes with the criminals.

01:48:13.000 You know, you know, the story of the crucifixion you're talking about.

01:48:17.000 Jesus and the Money Changer. 0.73

01:48:18.000 You know, Jesus gets hauled off by the Romans at the request of the priests. 0.62

01:48:24.000 Give us, but rob us! 0.79

01:48:26.000 Right!

01:48:27.000 And the Romans know it's very bad karma to kill Jesus, so they offer the crowd the option of the criminal or Jesus. 0.69

01:48:34.000 And the crowd lets the criminal off.

01:48:35.000 And if you look throughout history, what the guys at the top will say, look, the crowd is eager to manipulate the guy that will buy them with their own money always wins.

01:48:44.000 That's what I was about to say.

01:48:46.000 I've had high-level elitists openly tell me over the years, look Alex, this is the way the world is.

01:48:52.000 You might as well join it and try to do some good in the evil system because this is just the way it is.

01:48:57.000 But once you have that attitude, it just races downhill into Nazi Germany.

01:49:02.000 Right.

01:49:02.000 And that's the problem.

01:49:03.000 And suddenly, it's funny, I gave a presentation in London many years ago about what was happening in this country.

01:49:12.000 There was a guy who I'm pretty sure they had sort of sent over to discredit me after I spoke, and I gave a paper called The Myth of the Rule of Law, which is quite good, and it was quite fair and everything, and this guy just turned redder and redder as he was listening to me speak, and finally when it was over he just burst out and he said, You don't understand.

01:49:33.000 We can't depend on people to be responsible.

01:49:36.000 So we just can't depend on them to be responsible.

01:49:41.000 And I turned to him and I said, so that's why you destroy all the people who are?

01:49:45.000 And because really what, you know, all this has been used to justify just taking and theft and bad behavior on their part.

01:49:52.000 And Alex, he jumped up and walked out of the conference and never came back, so I guess he figured he couldn't discredit me and was instead deeply disturbed.

01:50:00.000 But there is a chicken and egg problem, and that's why I believe that significant efforts in the grassroots to shift this thing can shift it because there's so many people who work in government and corporations and large organizations who don't want it to go to this.

01:50:15.000 They don't want a slavery system. 0.99

01:50:17.000 Yeah, people who have children and people who love humanity.

01:50:21.000 I mean, I've seen so many people who've been abused who then become abusers.

01:50:26.000 It's like, well, I've been cheated, so I'm gonna cheat somebody else, but then when I get cheated, I fight to stop others from being cheated.

01:50:33.000 I mean, there's just so many twisted people out there.

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01:52:20.000 Catherine, there's this article in the London Guardian today, new global FAT tax to rein in banks, and they say it's a VAT on all transactions, and the nations are all passing laws to comply.

01:52:32.000 Gordon Brown says it's a global governance, and the top banks will now put taxes on all other financial transactions and give themselves the money, and they're billing it all over the news as a way to get the rich bankers.

01:52:45.000 I mean, they really are slick how they pass all their different takeover operations in the name of getting the rich guys.

01:52:52.000 I mean, they are really duplicitous.

01:52:55.000 But I guess they've got the Guardian and the AP and others working for them.

01:52:58.000 You know, the Matrix is... Trillions of dollars are spent on getting the Matrix to look... You know, Disney World has taught these guys a lot.

01:53:10.000 So, you know, but there's a great amount of money made to make the system look legitimate, you know, up to and including the lawsuit against Goldman Sachs.

01:53:22.000 Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you about that.

01:53:23.000 We're almost out of time.

01:53:24.000 I believe it's because there's so much heat, it's civil, they can now have a 3-4 year investigation, give somebody a $5 million fine, slap somebody on the wrist, and use the investigation to smokescreen all the state investigations.

01:53:37.000 Well, I think it's complex.

01:53:38.000 I think there are multiple agendas going on, but there's no doubt about it.

01:53:42.000 I think the reason this one got through is is these latest polls that show Ron Paul, even with Obama or the Tea Party representing most American people more than either political party, I think Washington is in real trouble, and Washington is trying to say, no, no, no, This wasn't us.

01:54:00.000 This was Wall Street, which is clearly a bunch of bunk.

01:54:03.000 But coming into the election, Washington has a real problem.

01:54:07.000 The Democrats have a real problem, because if you look at the, you know, Glass-Steagall and derivatives, it was all Rubin and Clinton.

01:54:13.000 And we see literally Clinton in testimony, you know, this last week saying, oh, I was wrong to listen to Ruben and Summers, you know, hint, hint, the Goldman guy.

01:54:23.000 So you've got, I call it the Midianite thing after this story in the Old Testament of the Midianites taking over Israel and Gideon's army attacks and the Midianites jump up in the dark and kill each other. 0.92

01:54:36.000 And we're literally watching the Midianites kill each other now as they start looking for scapegoats coming in the election. 1.00

01:54:41.000 So you're saying it's so bad for them, they may even throw a few of their minions overboard.

01:54:46.000 Oh, they're going to throw a lot, and that's the opportunity.

01:54:48.000 If you make a deck of cards, I want you to make a deck of cards that are basically the 50 most ridiculous people in the New World Order and make fun of them, because the more we make fun... The ones who are going to get shot are the ones we make fun of. 0.84

01:55:01.000 That means they have excess capacity.

01:55:05.000 So what you're going to watch is they're going to start turning against each other.

01:55:09.000 Yeah, because really they're all a bunch of hateful creatures anyways.

01:55:11.000 Any excuse to, well I throw him over, I'll move up the pyramid. 0.66

01:55:15.000 There's no loyalty among rats, and that is our opportunity if we can be part of something.

01:55:21.000 And that's what I said before, there are so many wonderful people who are working in government, or working in large corporations, or working in state and local government, that are looking at what is going on.

01:55:31.000 They're absolutely appalled, and they need You know, they need more and more of us offering something which is constitutional, which is lawful, and which is wealth building to attract them into.

01:55:44.000 We've only got one minute left.

01:55:45.000 Do you agree with me that they're setting the stage for false flag terror to be blamed on tea parties?

01:55:49.000 I mean, they're really, really beating the drum right now. 0.99

01:55:52.000 They're trying so hard, and the harder they try, the more ridiculous they look. 0.98

01:55:56.000 And so, they're going to keep trying. 0.99

01:55:58.000 It's going to fail completely.

01:56:00.000 I hope they just keep talking that way, because the more they talk that way, the funnier they look. 0.99

01:56:06.000 It is getting ridiculous. 1.00

01:56:08.000 It is getting ridiculous when you say, you don't like the banks looting you, you hate black people, you want to blow up federal buildings. 1.00

01:56:15.000 It's not working. 1.00

01:56:16.000 It's not working.

01:56:17.000 So I hope they keep doing it, because the reason Ron Paul is pulled into You know, it's head to head now with Obama's because of these tactics and how they're failing.

01:56:28.000 People are smart, Alex.

01:56:30.000 It is amazing how little violence you see across this country.

01:56:34.000 It is amazing because people have learned.

01:56:37.000 Absolutely.

01:56:38.000 Catherine, we're out of time.

01:56:39.000 Incredible interview.

01:56:40.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

01:56:42.000 God bless you.

01:56:42.000 Alex, you're the best!

01:56:43.000 They are exercising their disobedience to the new world order.

01:56:47.000 So, you know, we're for law.

01:56:49.000 We're for wealth.

01:56:50.000 And they're against it.

01:56:51.000 Absolutely.

01:56:51.000 Catherine, we're out of time.

01:56:54.000 Incredible interview.

01:56:54.000 Thank you for spending time with us.

01:56:56.000 God bless you.

01:56:56.000 Alex, you're the best.

01:56:57.000 You're the best.

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02:00:03.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:00:07.000 Well, he has survived a lengthy battle with cancer.

02:00:10.000 He just got a...

02:00:13.000 New bladder, using his intestines.

02:00:16.000 He's a tough guy.

02:00:17.000 He's in the hospital bed right now.

02:00:20.000 Ted Gunderson.

02:00:22.000 He entered the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 51.

02:00:25.000 He served in Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, Albuquerque offices.

02:00:30.000 He held posts as assistant special agent in charge in New Haven and Philadelphia.

02:00:35.000 As the Chief Inspector and Special Agent in Charge of the Memphis and Dallas Division in 77, Gunderson took his last position as Senior Special Agent in Charge of the Los Angeles Division.

02:00:47.000 And when he retired, he was chosen as Law Enforcement Officer of the Year in America by AFL-CIO Metal Trade Council.

02:00:58.000 And it just goes on and on from there.

02:01:00.000 And Ted Gunderson, Literally, exposed big cases that even came out in the newspaper with the CIA with giant child kidnapping rings, Satanist control grids.

02:01:11.000 And he talked about this 25 years ago, even though he had the evidence, people laughed.

02:01:15.000 Now, it just comes out and comes out. 0.98

02:01:18.000 Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, all these pedophile politicians, pedophile priests. 0.97

02:01:23.000 This is the Dine Corps running the CPS in many counties in the country. 0.99

02:01:27.000 I mean, it is nightmarish.

02:01:29.000 So he joins us from his hospital.

02:01:31.000 bed, and we appreciate Ted Gunderson joining us to talk about the Tea Party's False Flag Terror, OKC Terror 2.

02:01:40.000 He, inside the FBI, saw Cointelpro.

02:01:42.000 He's an expert who can explain what it is, and in his view, I talked to him earlier, that it's being used against patriots today.

02:01:50.000 Ted Gunderson, good to have you with us.

02:01:52.000 Well, Alex, it's always a pleasure to be on your show, and thank you very much for giving me a call.

02:01:58.000 You know me, I'm glad to share any information I have with anybody that wants to listen to long enough.

02:02:04.000 Ted, that's awesome.

02:02:06.000 Your phone was coming in great earlier.

02:02:08.000 It's overdriving a bit.

02:02:09.000 Can you back off of it a bit?

02:02:11.000 Yeah, is it just better now?

02:02:12.000 That is awesome, sir.

02:02:14.000 Thanks a million.

02:02:15.000 Okay, tell us a little bit about the FBI, the positions you held, and COINTELPRO, and I know laying there in your hospital bed, you've probably seen Clinton saying, gee, I hope the rhetoric settles down, because if people don't stop criticizing Obama, it's going to be their fault when a federal building blows up, and we know they've now caught the Democrat operatives with Nazi signs in the Tea Parties.

02:02:40.000 Absolutely.

02:02:40.000 they're building up towards stage terror.

02:02:42.000 Absolutely.

02:02:44.000 I've said this for 30-some-odd years.

02:02:48.000 Absolutely no question about it.

02:02:51.000 This whole terrorist movement is designed, in order to, was designed to bring on the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and take away many of our constitutional rights and civil liberties, legally, as they say, by passing these laws.

02:03:04.000 And as you know, Alex, the Patriot Act was passed at three.

02:03:09.000 It was substituted.

02:03:10.000 The real act has been approved by 36 members of the Judiciary Committee.

02:03:16.000 And it was to be voted on that particular morning by Congress.

02:03:19.000 And at 3 o'clock in the morning that morning that it was to be voted on, George W. Bush came in with his own version, a 300-page version of the Patriot Act, and substituted it for the other one, and then our congressman voted on an act that nobody had ever read!

02:03:33.000 And, you know, what does it do?

02:03:35.000 Look what it does.

02:03:36.000 It's a direct violation of the Constitution in a number of areas, the freedom of speech, the due process, and then it just goes on and on and on.

02:03:47.000 That's what it's all about.

02:03:49.000 This terrorist movement in this country today is government-coordinated.

02:03:53.000 The covert, I call it the criminal government enterprise is behind this whole thing, the shadow government.

02:04:03.000 The Nazis, as you say, there's no question about it. 0.97

02:04:05.000 It's a spiritual war.

02:04:07.000 It dovetails into satanic activity and the pedophilia and bringing the congressman and senators in the Nebraska case, which I worked with former Senator John DeCamp, and on and Oklahoma City was inside job, 9-1-1's inside job.

02:04:23.000 The World Trade Center car bombing February 26, 1993.

02:04:26.000 The FBI was not only involved in it, they knew in advance This is in the New York Times October 28, 1993, by the way.

02:04:35.000 They knew in advance, the FBI did, about the bombing.

02:04:39.000 And they had an informant in with the group, and he was told to put that bomb together.

02:04:43.000 He went to his FBI superiors, and he said, we're going to use a dummy bomb, aren't we?

02:04:48.000 And his FBI superiors said, no, we're going to use a real bomb.

02:04:51.000 So the FBI knowingly knew in advance that they were going to bomb the World Trade Center car bomb in 1993, they punished him for the bomb.

02:04:57.000 Now, what more evidence do you want?

02:04:59.000 And that came out during the trial because the informant, the FBI informant wore a body mark on Mike when he met with the terrorist, and unknowingly the FBI wore a body mark when he met with the FBI, and that's what probably kept Yeah, that was Ahmad Salaam.

02:05:12.000 I mean, he knew that they were setting him up.

02:05:16.000 And so he went in and said, look, you're saying go ahead with the bombing.

02:05:20.000 You did this.

02:05:21.000 Why are you doing this?

02:05:22.000 We were supposed to bust them.

02:05:24.000 And the FBI said, no, it goes forward.

02:05:26.000 Now, again, we're very honored to have you, Ted, and you're going 100 miles an hour, which is great because you're so full of information.

02:05:32.000 Everything he's saying is backed up and documented from my own research.

02:05:36.000 But let's go back now.

02:05:38.000 Be sure and back off that phone for me.

02:05:40.000 Let's go back to your awakening in the FBI, what you saw with COINTELPRO, what it is, and how you see them trying to now frame the Tea Parties, how they're prepping the public and the media for terror attacks to discredit people that are trying to stop the New World Order.

02:06:00.000 Well, uh, I was very active in the Coinshot Gold program, uh, particularly the Black Panthers back in the 1960s, certainly if you haven't come far. 0.83

02:06:09.000 You know, we used it against them, and it was very effective, and it's very effective today, and they're using it today.

02:06:14.000 But what they're doing today makes the old CoinJet program by the FBI back in the 60s look like a Sunday school class.

02:06:22.000 These guys today are unbelievable.

02:06:25.000 I mean, they're brazen, they're violating the law, they're coming out and trying to set people up.

02:06:30.000 I'm a perfect example of it.

02:06:32.000 They tried to set me up.

02:06:33.000 In 1982 with the drug deal with a girl named Pam Faust and she came over to my side and told me that they were trying to set me up and I took, I gave her a polygraph examination.

02:06:43.000 Well, tell people what COINTELPRO is, and when you were involved in it, as you said it was light compared to what's going on now.

02:06:50.000 I might have kind of, it was, you know, sort of unbelievable activity on their part, trying to set me up on a drug operation.

02:06:58.000 All they want to do is just discredit me, direct me.

02:07:01.000 Well, tell people what COINTELPRO is, and when you were involved in it, as you said, it was light compared to what's going on now, what it is.

02:07:10.000 Well, what COINTELPRO program is, it's a disinformation, major disinformation program.

02:07:17.000 And I'll give you an example.

02:07:19.000 On the Black Panthers, back in the 60s, we sent an anonymous letter to the Secretary-Treasurer of the Black Panthers party there in New Haven, Connecticut.

02:07:29.000 And told him that the chairman of the Black Panthers party was having an affair with his wife.

02:07:34.000 We sent a letter at the same time to the chairman, told him that the secretary treasurer was stealing money from the Panthers and it causes disruption within the ranks and it causes dissension among the troops.

02:07:47.000 So that's, you know, that's just an example of it.

02:07:49.000 And that's the kind of stuff I go through, just, just, and I know you've gone through it, just constant lies, constant stories, just throwing as much garbage as they can at anybody that's actually getting something done.

02:08:01.000 That's right, that's right.

02:08:03.000 And they've done that to me.

02:08:04.000 I mean, if you go on the internet, you see people like Stu Leather, an FBI informant, who actually took, I took him in, I housed him, clothed him for seven months, gave him a car with gasoline, and actually bought him a suit.

02:08:18.000 He had no place to go.

02:08:20.000 He was looking for a place to stay for four days.

02:08:21.000 I took him in.

02:08:22.000 He stayed for seven months.

02:08:23.000 And he ended up being an FBI informant against me.

02:08:26.000 And he stole from me.

02:08:28.000 He stole all kinds of material and research from me.

02:08:32.000 And then he goes out now, and he goes on the Internet, this guy Stu Webb, and he tells the people that I'm a practicing safeness, that I was kicked out of the FBI for a practicing safeness ceremony in the federal building. 0.97

02:08:44.000 And that's kind of junk. 0.78

02:08:46.000 Well, I don't even really know that guy. 0.99

02:08:48.000 But, I mean, the issue is they call my wife up on unlisted numbers and tell her what her and I have been talking about on the phone, and then women call up saying I've gotten them pregnant.

02:09:01.000 So it's just standard stuff.

02:09:03.000 Uh, going on, but, but, but you're saying today it's much worse.

02:09:07.000 What do you see them doing with the Tea Party?

02:09:09.000 Because it's, every news channel is saying we're all racist Klan members and we're going to blow federal buildings up.

02:09:15.000 The news is all saying I'm calling for violence when I'm calling for the opposite.

02:09:20.000 Uh, break that down.

02:09:22.000 Well, what they're doing is they've infiltrated every group in America.

02:09:27.000 They've got their own people in there, their own informants, their own provocateurs in there, and they're going to stir them up.

02:09:33.000 They're going to come up with the idea.

02:09:35.000 Their provocateurs are going to come up with the idea of doing some violent acts.

02:09:38.000 And then try to set up the Tea Party itself and put in violent action.

02:09:43.000 Then, of course, that's when the FBI will come in and arrest everybody and they'll let their people go.

02:09:48.000 The people that set it up, they'll pretend like the prosecuting millers disappeared out the back door and that'll be it.

02:09:56.000 Well that's like, that's like Hattari up in Michigan.

02:10:00.000 They're now saying that their FBI agent and informant were part of the nine-member group, but they still arrested all of them, but some of them are being held at other facilities.

02:10:10.000 So we'll see them be released out the back door later.

02:10:13.000 Absolutely.

02:10:13.000 They'll release their own people and then they'll go along to another part of the country and work in with another group under another name and start all over again.

02:10:21.000 Absolutely.

02:10:21.000 That's exactly what's happening.

02:10:24.000 Well, they've even caught the Democrats telling people to go out and dress like Nazis and go to tea parties.

02:10:30.000 But more and more of this is coming out.

02:10:32.000 I mean, do you think the New World Order is in trouble?

02:10:36.000 Well, I hope that they're in trouble.

02:10:41.000 You know, because there are people who are waking up.

02:10:44.000 And when I started talking about this like 30 years ago, I got out of the FBI in 1979.

02:10:49.000 When I started talking about this 30 years ago and I came out and went public with it, people thought I was a kook, I was nuts, I was a conspiracy theorist.

02:10:56.000 But now people are saying, you know, looking back, you were right.

02:11:00.000 And people are saying that to me on almost a daily basis.

02:11:03.000 So, I think people are waking up to what's going on, thanks to shows like this, Alex, by the way.

02:11:08.000 Yeah, well, thank you, sir.

02:11:09.000 But I go back over your research.

02:11:11.000 I mean, you broke major cases that came out in the newspaper, but then the investigation would get shut down, where the Finders case, with the CIA openly running child porn, everything else, I mean, you guys were busting them with the kids.

02:11:24.000 I mean, you really have been tireless out there, and now we know That literally, it's like a satanic pedophile guild at the top.

02:11:34.000 Let's talk about that when we come back and how these people operate and what their new world order is, what they want to build with Ted Gunderson.

02:11:43.000 He ran the Southern California, L.A.

02:11:46.000 division, one of the biggest posts of the FBI in the country, a special agent in charge, and he exposed the whole thing.

02:11:55.000 We'll be right back with Ted Gunderson from his hospital bed.

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02:16:02.000 Ted Gunderson, senior FBI agent, retired, fighting the New World Order for decades, is our guest.

02:16:08.000 And he just had his bladder removed, and he's fighting, he's defeated cancer, so his doctor may come in any time, and he'll have to get off and call us back.

02:16:18.000 But Ted Gunderson, short segment right now, long segment coming up.

02:16:21.000 From your FBI training, from your research, a lot of your predictions you made over the decades unfortunately came true.

02:16:28.000 How do you see the feds and the globalists From their pre-programming on the news, because you always pre-program and I know you've been watching it, because we talked before you went on air, what type of attacks should we look out for to demonize the Patriot movement?

02:16:44.000 Well, first of all, they're going to make all kinds of wild allegations, like we mentioned, Stu Webb, being an FBI informant.

02:16:51.000 He said I was practicing satanic ceremonies in the federal building, which is the reason I was dismissed from the FBI, which is not true.

02:16:57.000 They're going to use all kinds of disinformation like that against each one of us.

02:17:02.000 Like, I think they've accused you of being involved in pot or something else, Alex.

02:17:07.000 And that's a lot of crazy stuff.

02:17:09.000 And so they're going to use those tactics and then they are going to use their own infield traders into the various groups.

02:17:16.000 There was a supervisor, FBI supervisor out of Albuquerque, made a statement publicly that the FBI had infiltrated every patriot movement in the country.

02:17:25.000 Well, they have.

02:17:26.000 They got their informants out there.

02:17:27.000 I know because back in the late 60s when I was active in the Uh, against the Black Panthers, uh, we, we were in, we were in, and also the Communist Party, we had, uh, members and, uh, people, uh, that were informants for us within every group in the, in the, in America.

02:17:42.000 So they can go in there and disrupt the operation, uh, make, uh, plans for a terrorist act of some sort, and then blame it on the infiltrators, uh, and, uh, and so forth.

02:17:52.000 So it goes on and on and on.

02:17:54.000 It's a vicious circle.

02:17:56.000 And, you know, like, for example, you mentioned the children that were, uh, I've worked with Johnny Campbell in this case in Nebraska back in the 80s, late 80s, early 90s, where they were flying children out of Omaha, Nebraska.

02:18:09.000 They were actually driving them to Sioux City, Iowa, 184 miles away, put them in private jets, flying them to Washington, D.C.

02:18:14.000 for sex toys, usually with congressmen and senators.

02:18:17.000 Well, then, Rusty Nelson, an official photographer, who I interviewed, by the way, and I have him on tape, Uh, we'd, uh, we'd take pictures and then they'd blackmail the Congressmen and Senators and tell them how to vote. 0.91

02:18:27.000 And that's what's happening in America today.

02:18:30.000 And, uh, we don't have enough people like Kucinich and, uh, Ron Paul standing up.

02:18:34.000 Uh, and these other people have all been, uh, many of them have been blackmailed through children, through sex, and through drugs, and what have you.

02:18:40.000 And, uh, of course, they're only interested in being reelected, for the most part.

02:18:46.000 So from your research, I mean, what percentage, how does the power structure work?

02:18:50.000 Is it a mixture of pedophiles, satanists, occultists?

02:18:54.000 Because, I mean, every time, I was never expecting to find this, every time I do research, we run into satanism, pedophilia, devil worship, occultism. 0.99

02:19:05.000 I mean, it's really just a bunch of lunatics. 0.94

02:19:08.000 Oh, absolutely, but they're well organized. 1.00

02:19:11.000 We're dealing with a bunch of Nazi, fascist, evil people. 1.00

02:19:19.000 They are lunatics, but they're well organized. 1.00

02:19:21.000 They know what they're doing. 1.00

02:19:23.000 They have a master plan.

02:19:24.000 It's called the Illuminati.

02:19:26.000 And we're in a spiritual war.

02:19:27.000 A spiritual war all the way.

02:19:31.000 And so people need to wake up to what's actually going on.

02:19:34.000 By the way, Alex, I have 52, ever since I retired, I've written 52 reports.

02:19:41.000 I don't write books, I write reports.

02:19:44.000 6,500 pages of my reports are available to the public, except on a CD.

02:19:49.000 And you mentioned Oklahoma City earlier.

02:19:53.000 I want to get into that.

02:19:54.000 I want to tell folks they can go to tedgunderson.net, tedgunderson.net, and get that CD with all your invaluable reports.

02:20:01.000 This is important information.

02:20:03.000 Gunderson is spelled G-U-N-D-E-R-S-O-N, tedgunderson.net.

02:20:09.000 Let's start getting into that report.

02:20:11.000 For that report, Alex, I've written reports on 9-1-1, I've written reports on Oklahoma City, which we'll go into more in detail, I guess, later on in the show.

02:20:21.000 I've written reports on the car bombing of the World Trade Center in 93, and so on and so forth.

02:20:28.000 And also on CIA child kidnapping operations by the Finders.

02:20:33.000 I have this report on the Finder, the Dynamite report, it documents that the CIA is involved in kidnapping children, selling them for up to $50,000 each at auctions around the country.

02:20:43.000 And I've given this report to the FBI on half a dozen times, and they completely ignore me.

02:20:50.000 And instead of going out and investigating this and other matters that I've brought to their attention, they're investigating me and tried to set me up on, like I said earlier on your show, on a drug operation with two of this girl named Pam Fawcett, and they tried They've tried to set me up for criminal violations.

02:21:05.000 It hadn't worked so far, and I'm just not going to work because I'm not going to violate the law.

02:21:10.000 But this is their tactic, and they want to discredit me.

02:21:14.000 And as a matter of fact, I visit Mike Reconesudo, an inmate at Criminal Line on a regular basis.

02:21:20.000 Mike was the person who developed a barometric bomb used in Oklahoma City.

02:21:25.000 He was a CIA scientist for some 20 years.

02:21:27.000 Well, stay there.

02:21:28.000 Let's get into it.

02:21:29.000 Ted, we've got a break.

02:21:30.000 Teddy Anderson joining us from his hospital bed.

02:21:32.000 He's just had his bladder removed from cancer.

02:21:35.000 And tough guy, there in the hospital bed, firing away with the Info Weapons. 0.94

02:21:41.000 We'll be right back with Ted Gunderson, FBI retired.

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02:26:30.000 Ted, let's run through Oklahoma City and And not just COINTELPRO, with Clinton and others saying there's going to be another attack, and even Michael Savage is now coming out saying Obama, he believes, is going to stage a terror attack.

02:26:43.000 Limbaugh has almost gone that far, saying that they're going to try to blame it on us.

02:26:47.000 So the public, this isn't 1993 or 95, the public is getting wise to false flag terror.

02:26:52.000 So let's talk about Oklahoma City, understand the past, you know the present and the future, and then let's look at what type of big terror attacks.

02:26:59.000 Obama says the number one threat is nukes going off.

02:27:02.000 And what do you know about suitcase nukes, Ted Gunderson?

02:27:06.000 Well, you know, when Oklahoma City occurred, I had a call from Mike McConish-Duda.

02:27:12.000 I mentioned Mike's name a few moments ago.

02:27:15.000 Mike told me that the Oklahoma City bombing, it was not a fertilizer bomb, it was his bomb that he developed when he was with the CIA for 20 years.

02:27:26.000 And it's called the Electrohydrodynamic Gaseous Fuel Device.

02:27:29.000 Now, anybody with any sense knows anything about fertilizer bombs.

02:27:32.000 You don't even have to know anything about it, but you know that a fertilizer bomb does not destroy half of that building, which is what they claimed in Oklahoma City.

02:27:40.000 So, Mike Collins told me this, and so I started researching it, and I found out and learned the, I'll call it a barometric bomb.

02:27:49.000 This bomb was actually developed back in the 1980s.

02:27:52.000 under the ronnie reagan administration and at the night that it was tested in area 51 i was with a group of people in palm springs waiting for the results it was so powerful they underestimated the strength that was so powerful that one of the scientists died and the two others were injured and uh and and then it was highly classified and is highly classified still is to this day And Reagan put a high classification on it, top secret, not to be developed or furnished to anybody, any other sources, and so on and so forth.

02:28:21.000 And this was actually the bond that was used in Oklahoma City.

02:28:23.000 Now, my research didn't stop there.

02:28:26.000 I found out the contract number for this bomb.

02:28:30.000 It was developed by Hercules Manufacturing, which was Mike McConaughey's company.

02:28:34.000 He actually developed the bomb.

02:28:36.000 And it was manufactured by Dinan Mobile out of Salt Lake City.

02:28:40.000 I wrote to Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey, and with the contract number, and said, I want to copy the contract.

02:28:45.000 This is public source information, by the way.

02:28:48.000 And they came back and said, there's no such contract in our record.

02:28:53.000 And so that was an outright lie, because I actually had the contract number itself.

02:28:58.000 And so there's the right there.

02:29:01.000 Now, in June of 1995, right after the bombing, Bill Clinton gave a speech in Hanover, New Hampshire, and he said that the bomb used in Oklahoma City was a miracle of technology.

02:29:14.000 The government in the meantime is telling us that the fertilizer bomb was used in Oklahoma City, and now Clinton comes out and says it was a miracle of technology.

02:29:21.000 This is all well documented in the American Free Press, by the way.

02:29:25.000 So you have a major, major cover-up.

02:29:28.000 I made two trips to Oklahoma City out of my pocket and checked into this case.

02:29:35.000 And there's absolutely no question about it.

02:29:38.000 It was a government operation.

02:29:39.000 In the meantime, Terry Nick was one of the co-defendants in the case.

02:29:43.000 He filed an affidavit with the U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City.

02:29:47.000 Larry Plot, number two man in the FBI at the time, was the person who orchestrated the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:29:54.000 And that McVeigh was working for Black Ops, and we had Jane Graham on yesterday, who was on the 9th floor, and she said she saw McVeigh going up and down the elevator, she saw guys with grey sticks of butter and wiring, and we know police officers said they saw the same thing, like Terrence Yakey, that he basically got, you know, killed.

02:30:13.000 All of this, all of this going on, and you have the building blown out, not in, and you've got, at the same time, Clinton saying it's gonna happen again, Not even a veiled threat saying it's going to be blamed on the Tea Parties.

02:30:28.000 Right.

02:30:29.000 That's right.

02:30:30.000 It's all on our Gilmore Park Master Plan.

02:30:33.000 In order to come to declare martial law, we know that they've got guillotines scattered around, at least 30,000 guillotines, and I think they're in Atlanta right now.

02:30:43.000 We have coffins that are shot-filed in Georgia.

02:30:47.000 It just so happens that in 1995 the state legislature in Georgia passed a law that would allow inmates who were given the death sentence to be executed by guillotine.

02:31:03.000 That's right, more than a decade ago you said they were stockpiling plastic coffins everywhere and now they're on the news and they admit they're stockpiling them everywhere.

02:31:12.000 That's right, that's right.

02:31:14.000 And they, you know, Georgia in 1995 passed this law which allowed them to bring guillotines and also coffins into Georgia as an excuse now that they've prepped in anticipation of doing this on a national base, I believe.

02:31:32.000 And absolutely, no question about it.

02:31:34.000 And so, you know, it goes on and on and on.

02:31:38.000 By the way, I might mention this also.

02:31:40.000 In the Fireman's Magazine, September 1995, The editor wrote an article about Oklahoma City and the information he obtained from the article came from the Oklahoma City Fire Department.

02:31:52.000 And in that article it says that four different conventional bombs were removed from that building, from the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.

02:32:01.000 Four conventional bombs were removed.

02:32:04.000 So I think that what happened is that the parametric bomb went off, And it was to be followed by four other bombs that would have completely destroyed that building.

02:32:13.000 But for some reason or other, the other four bombs did not go off until they had to remove them.

02:32:18.000 And they stopped the rescue process for like five hours while they ran in there and brought a bunch of files out of Oklahoma City.

02:32:25.000 Uh, and, uh, of course we know about Terence Jagie.

02:32:28.000 They said that he committed suicide.

02:32:30.000 Uh, well, I mean, that's pretty tough to do, uh, because he had 13, uh, 13, by the way, uh, injuries to him, including to his, uh, to his arms and, uh, I think on his neck.

02:32:44.000 And of course he was shot, and there was blood in his car, and his body was like, I forget, I think a mile off the highway or something along those.

02:32:52.000 He couldn't distance himself off the highway.

02:32:54.000 So, you know, that's all part of the cover-up.

02:32:56.000 Yeah, he had... I talked to his wife at one time.

02:32:59.000 And he had a video, he was a video bop and he had a video camera right there at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing and he came over and started taking pictures with his video and they wanted that.

02:33:11.000 The New World Order boys wanted those pictures from his camera.

02:33:15.000 Well, that's right.

02:33:18.000 We've interviewed Colonel Craig Roberts, who was a police officer also in the area, who talked to his partner.

02:33:26.000 And the last time Terence Yakey, cop of the year for saving all those people in the building, was heard from, he was going to a secret storage facility outside the police department.

02:33:35.000 out in the country where he had these materials and he said I'm being followed by feds and then they found his body he'd been tortured to death trying to find out where that video was we had all those other video cameras from the local bank and the YMCA that the government declared national security on and wouldn't release from the Oklahoma City bombing.

02:33:56.000 As close as you can tell from your research And it did come out in mainstream newspapers that the FBI head of counterterrorism was there for the week before, was there the day of the bombing.

02:34:07.000 He'd lied about that.

02:34:08.000 He'd said that he'd flown up from Dallas that day, that morning.

02:34:12.000 But it turns out he is lying.

02:34:15.000 But then you've got the Southern Poverty Law Center and declassified documents running Elohim City.

02:34:20.000 You've got McVeigh there.

02:34:21.000 You've got Andre Strassmeyer there.

02:34:23.000 You've got all these people.

02:34:24.000 From your research, as best you can tell, how was the operation run?

02:34:29.000 How was it run, you say?

02:34:30.000 Yes, sir.

02:34:31.000 Well, when you say how was it run, I mean there was an inside investigator told me, an investigator for the defense, by the way, told me there were at least 11 other people involved in it.

02:34:44.000 So it took a team of people in order to pull this off.

02:34:48.000 You can't just run a truck in with a fertilizer bomb and explode it.

02:34:54.000 Well that's what Jane Graham said.

02:34:56.000 She said there were army guys in McVeigh crawling all over the building.

02:35:00.000 That's right.

02:35:01.000 That's right.

02:35:02.000 So it was well planned and well run.

02:35:09.000 They were all professionals.

02:35:10.000 These guys know what they're doing.

02:35:12.000 And, uh, but the only trouble is that the four conventional bombs didn't explode, so they didn't bring the whole building down, which was, uh, which, uh, jinxed their overall plan to bring the building down.

02:35:24.000 But anyway, at least we have the documentation in that magazine article.

02:35:28.000 But, you know, I've got this report.

02:35:30.000 This is a 222-page Oklahoma City report.

02:35:34.000 It's in my CD, and among 52 other reports.

02:35:38.000 And this report is available, Alex, for $35.

02:35:42.000 All my reports, 6,500 pages of reports, including 911, Oklahoma City, and what have you, and the Nebraska case, and finders, the child kidnapped by the CIA.

02:35:54.000 Excuse me.

02:35:56.000 And these are available to the public if you folks want to send $35 to me.

02:36:00.000 Do you want me to give my address, Alex, or what?

02:36:03.000 Absolutely, and the address is at tedgunderson.net, correct?

02:36:07.000 Yeah, that's the, uh, but send $35 and I'll send you this CD, and then I want you to make copies of this CD and get it out to your friends, because this is all documentation we're talking about here on the radio show.

02:36:18.000 Absolutely, and you deserve the support as well.

02:36:21.000 Give out the address.

02:36:23.000 Yeah, okay, send $35 to tedgunderson, G-U-N-D-E-R-S-O-N, 6230, 6-2-3-0-A, like Apple, Wilshire, W-I-L-S-H-I-R-E Boulevard, Unit 6, Los Angeles, 9-0-0-4-8.

02:36:44.000 That's Ted Gunderson, 6-2-3-A, Wilshire, W-I-L-S-H-I-R-E Boulevard, Number 6, L.A., California, 9-0-0-4-8.

02:37:00.000 Send me $35 and I'll get this TV out to you right away.

02:37:05.000 And then I want you to make copies and get copies to your friends.

02:37:08.000 This is the best documentation that I can come up with.

02:37:10.000 It's all in my report.

02:37:13.000 222 pages of dust just on Oklahoma City alone.

02:37:15.000 I also have 9-1-1 in there.

02:37:16.000 The FBI was alerted to 9-1-1, I might mention, on March the 20th, 2001, six months prior to 9-1-1.

02:37:26.000 A fellow in the FBI named Keith Kutry was given information about advanced terrorist acts by the Al Qaeda group.

02:37:38.000 Well, Ted, you talked about this day one when 9-11 happened eight years ago, and then it came out that all these FBI agents, Kathleen Rowley and Minneapolis, And FBI agents in Phoenix and FBI agents all over the country knew specifically what was happening and they were told to shut up and they were demoted and then those that told them to shut up were given record cash bonuses.

02:38:05.000 That was in the Washington Post.

02:38:07.000 Right.

02:38:08.000 Right, absolutely.

02:38:09.000 Let me ask you this.

02:38:11.000 Let me ask you this.

02:38:13.000 How is the FBI broken up?

02:38:14.000 Because we know the average FBI agent is doing kidnappings and bank robberies.

02:38:21.000 What divisions of the FBI are involved in the really dirty deeds, and how do they liaison in to the private contractors, into the CIA, into other groups?

02:38:32.000 Well, the Domestic Intelligence Division, which would be Division 5, is the one that would be handling this.

02:38:42.000 And they also handle, by the way, the Kennedy assassination and some of these other sensitive investigations.

02:38:49.000 And they have a liaison with key people and with the politicians.

02:38:56.000 And, uh, they, their activity, uh, is assigned to the Domestic Intelligence, are coordinating this with CIA, uh, uh, uh, intelligence, uh, primarily Army intelligence, and, uh, they have, they have a nationwide, uh, operation that's designed, uh, it's really a terrorist act, uh, operation designed against the average citizen to expose us and to come after us and to cause, uh, raise hell and, uh, raise havoc with us and with our activities and discredit us.

02:39:26.000 And the average FBI agent doesn't really know anything about this, do they?

02:39:30.000 No, absolutely not.

02:39:31.000 No, they do not.

02:39:32.000 As a matter of fact, Alex, I mentioned Reconosudo.

02:39:37.000 You both need to Google Reconosudo, the name Reconosudo.

02:39:40.000 I'm going to spell his name for you.

02:39:41.000 R-I-C-O-N-O-S-C-I-U-T-O. 1.00

02:39:45.000 Michael J. Reconosudo.

02:39:48.000 R-I-C-O-N-O-S-C-I-U-T-O. 1.00

02:39:52.000 C-I-U-T-O. 1.00

02:39:53.000 You Google Michael McConaughey, you're going to find a tremendous amount of information about Michael.

02:39:59.000 Now, Michael was set up and he dared to testify against the U.S.

02:40:04.000 Department of Justice in a criminal case, on a congressional hearing, accusing the Brooks Committee back in the late 80s, and he was set up on a drug operation and sentenced to 30 years.

02:40:14.000 Michael's in prison now for this alleged drug allegation.

02:40:18.000 But anyway, Michael, his mistake was he testified against the government.

02:40:23.000 And so they went after him, they set him up, and what have you.

02:40:26.000 Now, I visit Michael on a regular basis, because Michael and I have done a lot of work together.

02:40:30.000 As a matter of fact, we met Osama bin Laden back in the spring of 1986, and we were responsible, Michael and I, for the surface there. 0.97

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02:46:10.000 And maybe it's just Murphy's Law or something else.

02:46:13.000 But right when he started talking about meeting with Osama bin Laden and a State Department official back in 86, there was just all the power went crazy on the way.

02:46:23.000 Only in the studio, everything went dead.

02:46:25.000 I don't know.

02:46:26.000 How that happens and was just going crazy, turning on and off.

02:46:30.000 And I've never seen anything like this.

02:46:33.000 And so very, very bizarre.

02:46:35.000 Ted, you got cut off there.

02:46:36.000 Everything got wiped out.

02:46:37.000 This is the end of the show.

02:46:38.000 I'll have to have you back about this.

02:46:40.000 Specifically, meeting with Osama bin Laden.

02:46:43.000 What was that in relationship to?

02:46:44.000 You said getting service to ground, service to air missiles to the Mujahideen.

02:46:50.000 Go ahead.

02:46:52.000 Well, back in the spring of 86, I had an opponent, Bill Sloan, come to me.

02:46:56.000 He was a former top administrative official with the Reagan administration.

02:46:59.000 And Bill said, can you help the Afghan rebels in the fight against the Soviets?

02:47:05.000 And I got in contact with Michael Connors, who I knew had been in the CIA for some 20 years, a scientist.

02:47:11.000 And Mike and I met in a hotel room in Sherman Oaks, California.

02:47:15.000 With this State Department official and a tall, skinny fellow was driving under a Turkish passport, and his name was Jim Osman.

02:47:23.000 That was the name he was using.

02:47:24.000 I found out years later that it was actually Osama bin Laden.

02:47:27.000 And as a result of that meeting, Michael furnished the Afghan rebels with surface-to-air missiles that we shot down, that they used to shoot down the Soviet helicopters that won the war for them.

02:47:37.000 So, you know, at that time, of course, Osama bin Laden was our ally.

02:47:41.000 And then I first up to learn that we furnished the rebels, the Afghan rebels, the $650 million a year for five years.

02:47:50.000 So they used that money, of course, now to come back after us.

02:47:53.000 So you're saying you were involved in the conduit with the government, and I've never I didn't know it until I found out years later.

02:48:01.000 He was Osama Bin Laden.

02:48:03.000 Now, how did you know he was Osama bin Laden, or did you find out later?

02:48:07.000 I found out later.

02:48:08.000 I didn't know it until I found out years later.

02:48:11.000 It was Osama bin Laden.

02:48:13.000 He was traveling on the Turkish passport, Tim Osmond.

02:48:15.000 Did not know it all.

02:48:17.000 Well, that's now been declassified that it was Tim Osmond.

02:48:20.000 And yeah, he had a shaven face and everything else.

02:48:23.000 I mean, did he speak good English, or what was he like?

02:48:25.000 Yeah, he didn't speak much, but he literally, you know, you could understand him.

02:48:29.000 I didn't think much about it.

02:48:30.000 I didn't realize it was the son of bin Laden.

02:48:33.000 And he was undercover.

02:48:35.000 And I talked to the State Department official years, you know, later on in trying to get Make certain admissions, he said.

02:48:43.000 Just forget about me.

02:48:44.000 Leave me out of the picture.

02:48:45.000 I don't want anything to do with it.

02:48:46.000 He was afraid.

02:48:48.000 Which I'm not.

02:48:51.000 Anyway, you know, that's the story.

02:48:53.000 Steve Michael developed these sources inside the Arab world by furnishing these surface-to-air missiles that educated the Soviets. 0.68

02:49:03.000 Well, Ted Gunderson, I'm glad that you've beat cancer, and we'll talk to you again soon.

02:49:14.000 An amazing interview.

02:49:15.000 You know, he's the former special agent in charge of Memphis, Dallas, and the Los Angeles Division.

02:49:21.000 Thanks Alex.

02:49:21.000 Thanks for having me on your show.

02:49:23.000 of the year from the AFL-CIO, and so much of what he said in hindsight has turned out to be true.

02:49:29.000 Very, very scary stuff.

02:49:31.000 Ted, God bless you.

02:49:32.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

02:49:33.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

02:49:34.000 Thanks, Alex.

02:49:35.000 Thanks for having me on your show.

02:49:36.000 You bet.

02:49:37.000 Take care.

02:49:37.000 Folks, the broadcast is over, and very strange that he starts talking about Osama bin Laden, and everything goes dead here before he went to the last break.

02:49:45.000 That was, that was strange.

02:49:47.000 But we'll just hope that it was just Murphy's Law, just a coincidence.

02:49:51.000 Sure it is.

02:49:52.000 No big deal.

02:49:54.000 I'm gonna try to figure out what happened now that the show's about to end.

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Alex Jones Show - April 21, 2010

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