Alex Jones Show - 20101022_Fri_Alex

00:00:04.000 Big Brother.

00:00:05.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:22.000 And now from Austin, Texas, we are live.

00:00:26.000 Thank you for joining us, my friends.

00:00:30.000 It is Friday, the 22nd day of October 2010.

00:00:34.000 Joining us today will be Webster Tarpley for about 15 minutes later in the hour to talk about the revelations that one of the top al-Qaeda commanders supposedly ran 9-11, the underwear bombing, the Fort Hood shooting, the failed Times the underwear bombing, the Fort Hood shooting, the failed Times Square truck bomb, car bomb attack, Dining at the Piedmont.

00:01:00.000 Pentagon.

00:01:01.000 Two months after 9-11.

00:01:03.000 I know we covered this for an hour yesterday, but it's such a big deal, so TARP was going to be popping in.

00:01:07.000 And we're also going to talk to Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer of Able Danger about his suppressed book and, well, his take on what's happening with the different intelligence agencies protecting Al-Cieda.

00:01:21.000 So, he'll be joining us for a full hour.

00:01:24.000 Good job to our producers for getting that done.

00:01:27.000 Coming up at high noon in T-minus.

00:01:31.000 Fifty-eight minutes from now, and of course we have our weekly visit with Bob Chapman on the economy.

00:01:36.000 So important to have him on with us once a week as we chronicle and track what's happening all over the planet, including the mortgage gate situation that is just expanding.

00:01:46.000 But we'll be talking about Fox's supposed exclusive.

00:01:50.000 Al Qaeda leader dined at the Pentagon just months after 9-1-1.

00:01:54.000 Anwar al-Awlaki.

00:01:56.000 And it goes on from that point.

00:02:00.000 with Tarpley and Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer coming up today.

00:02:06.000 We also have the Lindsey Williams interview that is just taking the internet by storm right now.

00:02:12.000 Just huge amounts of traffic to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com with that interview yesterday and a lot of different news outfits picking up on it.

00:02:27.000 I know Lindsey Williams is for real and that his source is for real, but I also just want to add that

00:02:36.000 A lot of, you know, old men especially, who are really old and are getting ready to die, they're very matter-of-fact, they're very, especially elitist, are very authoritative in the things they say, and just because this elitist says all of this is going to happen, it doesn't mean it's 100% going to happen or that he has all the information about what's going on in globalist circles.

00:02:58.000 Kind of like his source.

00:03:01.000 One area that his source has been wrong about was how, you know, it was going to be total, you know, mega disaster in the Gulf.

00:03:07.000 And there has been a disaster.

00:03:08.000 They've covered most of it up in the core exit and the fact that most of the oil hasn't been cleaned up.

00:03:12.000 I mean, that's ongoing.

00:03:14.000 And now really the dead fish and the illnesses and the rest of it's out of the news.

00:03:18.000 But that's an example right there of his source saying this oil pressure is so incredible and so high that they're basically never going to be able to fix it.

00:03:28.000 So that's some good news in that his source is not omnipresent and doesn't have all the answers.

00:03:33.000 He talked about this Hispanic prominent activist that he's met with and talked to who's been meeting with Janet Napolitano offering her jobs and Napolitano telling her that you need to get six months of food and water.

00:03:46.000 We separately know who that source is confirmed that that indeed did go on.

00:03:52.000 And we know the name and that Williams has talked to her and that Napolitano did tell her that.

00:03:59.000 But obviously the lady's scared and doesn't want her activist work harmed with what she's doing. 1.00

00:04:05.000 But the government itself has been building up emergency supplies for decades.

00:04:12.000 So that's really nothing new.

00:04:14.000 And we know they could stage a cybersecurity attack, which they're clearly gearing up to do.

00:04:17.000 And the Stuxnet worm appears to be just that, the trigger to pass, in the lame duck session of Congress, the cybersecurity takeover, which is the Pentagon takeover of the Internet.

00:04:28.000 So we'll talk some about that today.

00:04:30.000 Also, establishment dispatches Clinton, the campaign against Rand Paul, if you ever needed Sign that Rand Paul's the guy for the job.

00:04:40.000 It's that Bill Clinton, the discredited criminal, is being dispatched against him in Kentucky to now play the race card.

00:04:47.000 We're going to be discussing that as well.

00:04:51.000 We'll be right back.

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00:06:19.000 I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!

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00:06:24.000 The whole of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.

00:06:27.000 The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.

00:06:34.000 Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.

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00:07:57.000 Big Brother.

00:08:05.000 Mainstream media.

00:08:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:08:09.000 You want answers?

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00:08:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:08:22.000 None of us want 9-11 to be an inside job.

00:08:25.000 It just is.

00:08:26.000 And what is, is.

00:08:28.000 And anyone can just look at the news every day and read all the government documents that are public.

00:08:41.000 And the former head of Homeland Security, Governor Ridge, last year admitting that the White House issued terror alerts for political gain.

00:08:48.000 And understand that they're using the war on terror to take our liberties and freedoms and set up secret police networks.

00:08:55.000 Yes.

00:08:57.000 Well, at the same time, Homeland Security in the last year has blocked almost all deportations of illegal aliens.

00:09:04.000 This has been going on for a long time under Clinton, Bush, and now Obama, but now it's getting more outrageous.

00:09:14.000 I have a report here, Homeland Security Department blamed for border fence project delays, budget problems, that's out of Fox News, and came out a few years ago that illegal aliens were building the shoddy fence that was for show.

00:09:27.000 They'll put a few thousand troops strung out across the border who aren't allowed to, you know, aid the police or anybody when they're under attack.

00:09:36.000 It's all for show.

00:09:39.000 And many people pointed out, we have countless times, that if the 9-11 attacks were real, you would have seen the borders militarized and locked down overnight on September 12th.

00:09:50.000 Believe me, the globalists know how to do it.

00:09:51.000 They can secure borders in dozens of third world countries they control.

00:09:56.000 Our military, our government, is run by offshore corporations and we're used as the muscle to build and enforce their world government.

00:10:06.000 And when you read the MIAC reports and Homeland Security reports and all the new reports that have been leaked, you find out they're not spending any of their time dealing with quote Muslim extremists, and to the contrary, they are protecting them.

00:10:18.000 They are funding them.

00:10:19.000 They are financing them.

00:10:20.000 I mean, yo, exclusive, Al Qaeda leader dined at the Pentagon just months after 9-11.

00:10:26.000 Anwar al-Awlaki, the guy that runs all the attacks. 0.99

00:10:29.000 Fort Hood shooting, underwear bombing, Times Square attack.

00:10:34.000 9-11.

00:10:34.000 I mean, they say he's the guy.

00:10:36.000 And it comes out he's always in control of the lunatics they find to carry out these attacks. 1.00

00:10:42.000 And because they are such low-grade morons, most of the attacks, you know, end up to be complete duds. 1.00

00:10:48.000 The Fort Hood situation was not. 1.00

00:10:49.000 And it's come out in mainstream news that for two years, they knew about Hassan.

00:10:56.000 And he was talking to Ilaki.

00:10:58.000 And the CIA and the Pentagon knew this.

00:11:00.000 And he was saying, what should I do, Ilaki?

00:11:03.000 And the full text of these emails has not been released because the CIA declared national security and denied it to Congress.

00:11:09.000 How is the CIA denying that to Congress?

00:11:12.000 How does the private Federal Reserve get up there in all these banking committee hearings for two years straight, every month, and they say, where's this trillion, where's this $500 billion, where's this $800 billion?

00:11:21.000 And they say, we're not going to tell you!

00:11:23.000 I mean, there's the corruption right out in the open!

00:11:26.000 Okay, and I see police, and I've been to the events, the drills, we've seen it on the news countless times, the police all serious, learning how to run checkpoints, learning how to search homes, learning how to spy on citizens, and oh my gosh, Al-Qaeda is such a threat, and I've been in the airport before, and here in Austin, and seen a TSA worker at the lunch counter, sitting there reading a book that looked like something out of 1984, saying, You know, how someone becomes a terrorist.

00:11:56.000 And then, ooh, everybody's gonna... I mean, it's made up, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:00.000 It is manufactured so the globalists have an excuse to take over our society and laugh all the way to the bank.

00:12:07.000 And how do they laugh all the way to the bank?

00:12:10.000 How do they get that done?

00:12:12.000 Well, all of the red light cameras, the face scanning cameras, the license plate reading cameras, all of these systems of control.

00:12:20.000 The data mining, the private NSA contractors through Total Information Awareness Network, the hundreds of billions a year that is publicly spent on this, of your tax money, is all run by a handful, less than ten, defense contractors.

00:12:39.000 I mean, they're not just getting trillions overall every year to take over 160-plus nations that U.S.

00:12:45.000 military and contractors are in.

00:12:47.000 They're paid to take over this country. 0.87

00:12:50.000 It's very simple.

00:12:51.000 People are like, well, why would they do this?

00:12:52.000 Well, there's profit alone, but there's also the control.

00:12:56.000 The big banks that sit at the top of the pyramid of this fraudulent kleptocracy have committed so many crimes.

00:13:04.000 They have done so many things that are openly illegal.

00:13:08.000 with their looting that they need a police state in control.

00:13:12.000 They need a system that is outside the Constitution in the name of national security so they can get away with it.

00:13:18.000 Since 1947 with the National Security Act and the establishment of the Central Intelligence Agency, absolutely created out of Yale and Harvard and Skull and Bones, that's mainline news, Skull and Bones was founded by A trust that controlled the opium importation.

00:13:39.000 I mean, this is mainline ABC News.

00:13:41.000 And so the Opium Trust created the CIA.

00:13:44.000 Of course they ship the drugs in.

00:13:46.000 Of course they're in Afghanistan for the 500 billion a year in opium. 0.75

00:13:49.000 Of course they have Marines on TV admitting they helped grow it now.

00:13:52.000 They just put the evil in your face and say, we're growing opium to stop men in turbans from killing you.

00:13:58.000 We're naked body scanning you and radiating you and saving it to keep you safe from men in turbans. 0.98

00:14:03.000 When they're financing the men in turbans.

00:14:06.000 And you've got the CIA run by Wall Street doing whatever it wants.

00:14:10.000 It's just, it's gangsters!

00:14:13.000 And you've got the light side of the CIA and the FBI.

00:14:15.000 You know, you've got the people that are the paper pushers and the people that investigate bank robberies at the FBI and the people at the CIA that create dossiers on different world leaders and infiltrate for information and a lot of them are good people who really think they're fighting, you know, corruption worldwide and spreading truth, justice, and the American way, but you're not!

00:14:34.000 Stop living in denial!

00:14:37.000 The average police officer is a good, hard-working person who wants to help people.

00:14:42.000 Okay?

00:14:43.000 When I was in college, I looked at a career in law enforcement, briefly, because I wanted to help people.

00:14:51.000 Okay, and I like adrenaline, and I like the idea of going up against bad guys.

00:14:55.000 And my dad said, I have a friend who's a federal marshal, why don't you have lunch with him?

00:14:59.000 And I went over to his office and had lunch with him, and he said, are you a criminal?

00:15:04.000 And I said, absolutely not, I'm, you know, like Mr. Boy Scout.

00:15:07.000 And he said, yeah, well, that's why, if I would have done this over again, I, and this is a senior federal marshal, he said, I wouldn't have done this.

00:15:16.000 And he said, if you are not basically a criminal, then this is not the job for you.

00:15:23.000 So that was a big wake-up call at 20 years old.

00:15:34.000 And I was looking at lots of different stuff.

00:15:35.000 You know, I was going and talking to people about, you know, being a game warden or, you know, because I could be outside and do stuff.

00:15:41.000 And they're like, that's not really what we do.

00:15:43.000 We spy on people.

00:15:44.000 People don't like us.

00:15:46.000 So, I mean, if you're talking to a senior federal marshal who was about to retire, And he tells you that if you're not a criminal, you don't want to be involved in this.

00:15:55.000 Why would he say that?

00:15:56.000 What do you think a senior federal marshal knows?

00:15:58.000 What do you think a senior federal marshal knows that he would tell a 20-year-old...

00:16:13.000 Somebody who looks like Mr. Apple Pie.

00:16:15.000 I mean, when I was 20 years old, folks, I ran six miles almost every day, lift weights for two hours a day, three times a week.

00:16:21.000 I mean, I was in 2% body fat, perfect shape, well-spoken, nice.

00:16:25.000 And he's got, you know, Leave It To Beavers sitting in front of him.

00:16:29.000 And he says, you don't want to do this.

00:16:35.000 Because he said, it isn't what it used to be.

00:16:43.000 And I didn't understand exactly what he was talking about at the time, but that certainly scared me away from it.

00:16:51.000 And when you realize how dirty this government is, when you realize how bad it is, when you realize it's only getting worse, it's a painful thing.

00:17:00.000 But living in denial doesn't make those problems go away.

00:17:05.000 Living in denial only allows it to all get worse.

00:17:14.000 And And so I see the different types of police officers, the hard-working former military types who are just out there following things by the book and they stay low-level and they're out there writing tickets when they're 55.

00:17:28.000 But the people that know how to play the criminal game The people who know just how evil the system is and will go along with it, whether they join with it or just passively look the other way, they're going to go to the top.

00:17:49.000 You know, I've been out in Los Angeles a lot, and I have been around former police detectives and current police detectives.

00:17:56.000 I have had dinner with police detectives.

00:17:59.000 I have had dinner with people involved with the Vikings, and that's not a football team in Minnesota.

00:18:06.000 That's the police mafia of Los Angeles.

00:18:09.000 And they're all just, of course the government did 9-11.

00:18:11.000 We knew that day one, of course.

00:18:13.000 I've got a, well, we call him a great uncle, but he's one of my dad's cousins.

00:18:23.000 Lives down by our farm.

00:18:25.000 You know, known him since the day I was born.

00:18:27.000 And he was an army officer.

00:18:30.000 And he was recruited by the CIA.

00:18:33.000 As an army officer, and in his training, he was supposed to do unbelievably criminal things in Chicago and other cities, and he got out of it.

00:18:44.000 I mean, everyone I know in my family, you name it, who has brushed up against this, it's the same report.

00:18:57.000 Okay?

00:18:58.000 And they don't care.

00:18:58.000 Hey, great.

00:19:00.000 You know, my family member, army officer, He wouldn't do evil things.

00:19:10.000 So they said, good, we don't want you. 0.76

00:19:13.000 We're going to recruit somebody else.

00:19:14.000 Think about how the system has had decades to go through with a sieve, like panning for gold.

00:19:20.000 But the gold they're looking for are tyrants.

00:19:22.000 And they've been panning through it.

00:19:28.000 And most of the people are moral.

00:19:30.000 They won't do things that are evil.

00:19:31.000 They don't care.

00:19:32.000 They find the ones that will.

00:19:34.000 It's just like the confirmed reports of TSA agents are being called in and saying, will you run naked body scanners?

00:19:40.000 Do you have health concerns?

00:19:41.000 Yeah, I don't really want to run them and I've heard you can get cancer.

00:19:43.000 It was in the New York Times.

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00:19:53.000 They'll find people that'll... They can find people, you understand that?

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00:23:57.000 The point I was trying to make last segment is the corrupt corporations that have been running this country into the ground.

00:24:22.000 The robber barons that really took over in 1913, they have been slowly building a giant underground army of criminals and compromised individuals.

00:24:34.000 I mean by the mid 1930s they came to the most highly decorated Marine Corps officer or enlisted, in history, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, Smedley Butler, who'd overthrown countless countries for them, they came to him and they said, we want you to help run a coup with 500,000 men we've got, and police, the military, we've got the units ready, we're going to take over the U.S.

00:25:01.000 and join with Hitler. 0.79

00:25:03.000 And this came out in the McCormick-Dickstein committee hearings.

00:25:07.000 Now, he played along with them long enough to blow the whistle, and that's what finally woke him up.

00:25:11.000 Smedley Butler.

00:25:14.000 What Major General Smedley Butler.

00:25:19.000 And they said, after you stage the coup, we're going to make you Commandant of the Marine Corps, probably President down the road after that.

00:25:25.000 How does dictator sound?

00:25:27.000 Smedley Butler was taken all the way up on the mountain by the globalists, and he named them, the Rockefellers, You name it. 0.98

00:25:37.000 He did radio broadcast on it.

00:25:39.000 He did newsreels on it.

00:25:41.000 They took him up to the mountain and they said, How would you like to be president?

00:25:49.000 All you gotta do is take over the U.S.

00:25:52.000 Well, they've done it.

00:25:54.000 They found the generals, they found the homeland security people, they built the system.

00:25:58.000 The RAND Corporation and CFR designed it.

00:26:01.000 And we are in a corporate dictatorship right now and they want to start shutting down the internet and free speech.

00:26:07.000 They want to try to intimidate the American people. 0.98

00:26:09.000 They're counting on police and military and others to be ignorant.

00:26:13.000 And when the system stages terror attacks and creates a financial atmosphere that causes riots, as you're seeing accelerate in Europe, They have trained you to see the people as your enemy, in the name of protecting them, and to basically march out against us.

00:26:32.000 And it's not just the government and the corporations that are decadent.

00:26:34.000 The general public is very decadent, is into evil, is into corruption.

00:26:38.000 I mean, we all share the blame.

00:26:40.000 If you want to know why this has happened, look in the mirror.

00:26:43.000 Evil's always been there.

00:26:44.000 It's always trying to get control. 0.98

00:26:46.000 But when you give in to it, your country goes down a rat hole. 0.96

00:26:49.000 Your country gets flushed down the toilet.

00:26:53.000 If they can cheat people on mortgages and take veterans' death benefits and all the rest of the things they're doing, can you imagine what's coming down the road?

00:27:04.000 None of us have seen anything yet.

00:27:08.000 And at the end of the day, you know, I don't feel up to the task of fighting these people, but I don't have a choice.

00:27:16.000 I mean, it's either submit to them or stand up against them.

00:27:19.000 You think it's fun to stand up against these people?

00:27:20.000 You think it's fun to have all their major think tanks attacking us 24-7 and all their paid provocateurs on the web?

00:27:28.000 You think it's fun for Rand Paul to have the Republicans and the Democrats coming out against him and Bill Clinton dispatched there to now claim that some group he might have been associated with wrote a newsletter making jokes about black people just totally made up or that he's kidnapping women?

00:27:41.000 You think that's fun to have people lying about you?

00:27:43.000 But it doesn't matter if it's fun.

00:27:52.000 It's our duty to do this and I just want to say to everybody who's a bureaucrat or a banker or a cop or anybody, I mean you better really have a gut check and look in the mirror Or turn the lights off this afternoon, sit there quietly in your living room and meditate for a few hours.

00:28:09.000 And by meditate, I don't mean like some Buddhist.

00:28:10.000 I mean think, cogitate, really ask yourself, get conscious and think, is this a free country?

00:28:17.000 Are we going in the right direction?

00:28:19.000 And of course, a lot of you will say, oh no, we're not going in the right direction.

00:28:21.000 It's Obama.

00:28:22.000 Obama is meant to take the blame for this leg of the agenda.

00:28:27.000 And then the Republican that comes after him will take the blame for the next leg.

00:28:31.000 The next step. 0.93

00:28:32.000 I mean, of course Obama's horrible. 1.00

00:28:34.000 I hate him. 0.97

00:28:36.000 I hate George Bush, but they are still just high-level minions. 0.87

00:28:41.000 It's the system.

00:28:43.000 It's Goldman Sachs.

00:28:45.000 It's JPMorgan Chase.

00:28:46.000 It's Bank of America.

00:28:47.000 It's the shareholders of those companies.

00:28:49.000 It's Rockefeller.

00:28:51.000 It's the Queen of England.

00:28:52.000 It's the Rothschilds. 0.88

00:28:53.000 It's a handful of families.

00:28:55.000 In Rothkopf, the head of the Kissinger Group's own words, it's 6,000 superclass.

00:28:59.000 There's only 6,000 super minions that have a limited access to the full spectrum of information.

00:29:10.000 I have made it my life's duty to study this system, to research it, And to understand it through a historical lens and to read the public white papers by these people of the plan they have for this planet.

00:29:21.000 And let me tell you, their plan is one-child policies, forced abortions, Their plan is neo-feudalism.

00:29:30.000 They call it austerity.

00:29:32.000 And you watch our films like Obama Deception, Fall of the Republic, you know, from a year and a half ago, eight months ago.

00:29:38.000 It's like prophecy.

00:29:39.000 It's everything that's now unfolding.

00:29:40.000 But it's not prophecy.

00:29:41.000 This stuff's out in the open.

00:29:43.000 You've just got to make the decision to recognize what it is and then speak out against it.

00:29:47.000 We'll be right back.

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00:33:15.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:33:20.000 Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, the head of Able Danger, is going to be joining us for a full hour.

00:33:25.000 We're going to have Tarpley on for about 15 minutes.

00:33:27.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley, an expert Al-Qaeda leader, dined at the Pentagon just months after 9-11, Fox News exclusive.

00:33:36.000 And of course, Tarpley's been talking about Anwar al-Awlaki forever being one of the master dupe handlers.

00:33:43.000 This is big news, ladies and gentlemen.

00:33:44.000 We're going to be talking about that with Webster here in a moment.

00:33:46.000 I first wanted to play just a few minutes of this clip.

00:33:49.000 It's followed up by everything that the engineer running for Senate in Kentucky covers.

00:33:59.000 And the video is up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.

00:34:04.000 Aaron Dykes wrote a big article about it last night.

00:34:06.000 West Virginia Senate candidate questions foreknowledge of WTC collapse in live TB debate.

00:34:13.000 Jeff Becker, running for the Senate in West Virginia in the Constitution Party, And this was on C-SPAN.

00:34:20.000 But the issue here is the courage of this individual and the fact that if you run for office, Governor, State Senate, U.S.

00:34:29.000 Senate, whatever, you get into the debates, the town halls, the local TV, the national TV.

00:34:35.000 And if you watch C-SPAN these days, Well, every time I do, and I get sent the clips constantly from YouTube, people upload it, they'll take 15 calls in a row saying 9-11's an inside job.

00:34:46.000 Every time they've got the former head of Homeland Security or Israeli intelligence, I mean, anybody goes on these shows, they get bombarded.

00:34:53.000 That's freaking the system out and they just, independent line, 9-11's an inside job.

00:34:59.000 Republican line, 9-11's an inside job. 0.53

00:35:01.000 Democrat line, 9-11's an inside job.

00:35:03.000 And they're articulate, they're informed.

00:35:06.000 The system's got a problem.

00:35:07.000 So they come out and announce, 9-11 truth is dead, we've discredited it.

00:35:11.000 Like it's a, like, like, everybody knows the moon is made of cheese.

00:35:14.000 And weak-minded people, you know, these aren't the droids you're looking for, move along. 0.72

00:35:19.000 These aren't the droids we're looking for, move along, move along. 0.98

00:35:22.000 It's like a Jedi mind trick, but it only works on the weak-minded. 0.59

00:35:27.000 And so I just wanted to play this clip before we go to tarp because we're dealing with 9-11 and staged terror with him here briefly.

00:35:32.000 Here's a few minutes from C-SPAN where they bring up, what do we do about defense, fighting the Muslims? 1.00

00:35:38.000 And he goes, well, this whole thing's fake.

00:35:41.000 And he goes over it.

00:35:42.000 Here it is.

00:35:44.000 I think we need to first take a look at what happened on September 11th.

00:35:49.000 There were actually three buildings that collapsed on September 11th.

00:35:55.000 World Trade Center 7 was two blocks away from the Twin Towers.

00:35:59.000 I think this is important to consider because it was not rained on by any debris.

00:36:03.000 It was just a 40-story building.

00:36:06.000 And at 5 p.m.

00:36:07.000 on 9-11, Um, Jane Stanley, the reporter for the BBC, was standing right in front, was standing at ground zero and reported that Building 7 collapsed, when in fact, you can still see it over her shoulder.

00:36:22.000 And then, 20 minutes later, it did collapse.

00:36:26.000 This is foreknowledge.

00:36:28.000 And it needs to be investigated.

00:36:30.000 Additionally, Larry Silverstein, the owner of World Trade Center 7 Complex, before 9-11 had taken out a multi-billion dollar insurance policy to protect his property against a terrorist attack.

00:36:43.000 And then, in 2002, on a PBS station interview, he said that he gave the order to pull it.

00:36:51.000 Pull it is a controlled demolition term.

00:36:55.000 More evidence of foreknowledge.

00:36:58.000 These are facts.

00:36:59.000 You can watch the interview.

00:37:00.000 You can look.

00:37:01.000 You can get the BBC footage.

00:37:03.000 How did the British know 20 minutes ahead of time that this was going to happen?

00:37:07.000 Uh, this needs to be investigated.

00:37:09.000 There is a preponderance of anomalies surrounding the events on 9-11.

00:37:16.000 Architects and engineers, over a thousand degreed and licensed architects and engineers have looked at the information and there's just...

00:37:25.000 There's too much, there's so much information that needs to be, that doesn't make sense to the official story.

00:37:30.000 The only way for the official story to make sense is if the laws of physics had changed on that day.

00:37:35.000 And I'm an engineer and I can tell you that they did not change.

00:37:39.000 Okay, then it cuts to all the videos from mainstream news of exactly what he talked about.

00:37:44.000 That's an important article because more people can then imitate what he's doing and they can't stop us.

00:37:50.000 Even if they try to shut the web down, people run for office, you're going to be on television, you're going to be able to talk about it being an inside job.

00:37:56.000 And remember, 9-11's been used to launch all these wars, to take your liberties, to set up this control grid.

00:38:01.000 Now, recapping this, we're going to talk about with Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer coming up.

00:38:05.000 I got a sneaking suspicion that Fox was leaked this information.

00:38:08.000 I wonder where it came from.

00:38:11.000 Exclusive!

00:38:12.000 Al-Qaeda leader dined at the Pentagon just months after 9-11.

00:38:16.000 Anwar al-Awlaki, trouble with his name, Anwar al-Awlaki may be the first American on the CIA's kill or capture list, but he was also a lunch guest of a military brass at the Pentagon, including the Secretary of the Army.

00:38:30.000 Now, he had already been in the media.

00:38:32.000 They'd said that he was behind 9-11, but there he is at the Pentagon.

00:38:38.000 And this is the guy they say is behind the Fort Hood shooter.

00:38:42.000 This is the guy behind the dud bomb in Times Square.

00:38:46.000 This is the guy behind the underwear bomber.

00:38:48.000 And in every case, the underwear bomber, the government got him on the plane on record without a visa or passport.

00:38:54.000 Our government.

00:38:55.000 The State Department admits that.

00:38:56.000 I mean, this is crazy!

00:38:58.000 And, it's like George Bush Senior, meeting on the morning of 9-11 in the Carlisle Group function, London Guardian AP, with the head of the Bin Laden family at his table.

00:39:07.000 It's now they say Bandar Bush is running the Al-Qaeda attacks.

00:39:12.000 Bandar Bush, the guy on C-SPAN, the ambassador from Saudi Arabia, the guy on Larry King Live, two days after 9-11.

00:39:20.000 I mean, it's insane!

00:39:21.000 It's just they're right out in the open, That they're doing this and they stage pure terror attacks like 9-11, then they have other events where they have handlers that go out and find mental deficients.

00:39:31.000 They always have low IQs, they're on welfare, they look drugged like the underwear bomber.

00:39:36.000 We've only got him for this segment and part of the next because he's got a tape with Genesis, his own Saturday show that's taped every week, World Crisis Radio.

00:39:45.000 Webster Griffin Tarpley, doctor of history.

00:39:47.000 He's also an economist, an author.

00:39:51.000 No stranger to this radio show.

00:39:54.000 Webster, good to have you here.

00:39:57.000 We have the headline, Al-Qaeda mastermind invited to the Pentagon after 9-11.

00:40:02.000 And we have our other headline, Al-Qaeda is a front group for the U.S.

00:40:05.000 military industrial complex.

00:40:07.000 I mean, this is so out in the open, Webster.

00:40:09.000 Tell us about a lock-in.

00:40:10.000 Well, if you look at my website, Topsy.net, my nickname for this guy is Al-Locky the CIA Locky.

00:40:19.000 I think that makes it easy to remember.

00:40:21.000 So he's Anwar Al-Locky, and he's a provocateur working for U.S.

00:40:27.000 intelligence, and he's part of this gaggle Of murderous thugs, but of course also provocateurs.

00:40:34.000 In other words, people who are used for political purposes.

00:40:40.000 And typically what Al-Awlaki, his past, if I can just reconstruct it off the top of my head, he was in a mosque in Northern Virginia, where I think a couple of the 9-11 alleged hijackers, the patsies for that, We're attending, and then he was over here in Maryland, and there he got connected to, uh, I guess that must have been Major Hassan, and, uh, later on then, uh, he's connected to the underwear bomber.

00:41:06.000 Now, connected, connected simply means that if you have a patsy that has reached the point of ripeness and maturity to do something, and you want to deploy the patsy, uh, as a kamikaze in some way, You want to be able to say, if you're the U.S.

00:41:23.000 intelligence community, that this was al-Qaeda doing it.

00:41:26.000 So the way you do this is to have them exchange emails with al-Laki, the CIA lackey, and then you can say, aha, again, we told you so, it's al-Qaeda, they do exist, and they do act.

00:41:39.000 Now, as far as I know, al-Laki is in Yemen, and he's in Yemen because it was a commitment, you could see it about a year to two years ago, The U.S.

00:41:49.000 wanted to build up branch offices of Al-Qaeda and they needed to make this credible, right?

00:41:55.000 There's Al-Qaeda in the Maghreb because they want to attack Algeria and Tunisia and maybe Morocco and places like this, but they also wanted To have Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, in Yemen.

00:42:09.000 And the reason to have it in Yemen is that Yemen, of course, is strategic because it happens to control the exit from the Red Sea.

00:42:16.000 In other words, most of the traffic that comes out of the Suez Canal has got to go down the Red Sea and then out into the Indian Ocean by Yemen.

00:42:25.000 But the other advantage of Yemen is it gives you a chance to run destabilization operations into Saudi Arabia, which is something you have to do from the point of view of these people at certain times.

00:42:37.000 So if you have al-Awlaki in Yemen, you can argue, aha, there's al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

00:42:43.000 And the other thing is in order to make sure that they had some members, this is the case where they let some people out of Guantanamo, the people who had been rotting away in Guantanamo, and they said, all right, fine, we're going to let you out.

00:42:55.000 You go to Yemen.

00:42:56.000 And then, you know, with a wink and a nod, they said, of course, you've got to swear not to become a terrorist again.

00:43:01.000 And, of course, they said, yes, we'll do that.

00:43:03.000 And then, of course, once they get over there, they disappear and they join al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

00:43:08.000 All of this is completely planned.

00:43:10.000 In other words, this is a bloody Uh, theater.

00:43:14.000 It's a farce.

00:43:15.000 It's a dog and pony show.

00:43:16.000 It's designed to dupe people.

00:43:18.000 And the idea that Al-Aulaqi is there, I mean, it reminds you of these things like, you know, Bin Laden treated in a U.S.

00:43:26.000 military hospital in somewhere in the Gulf, right, around the time of Of 9-11.

00:43:33.000 It simply shows the intimate links between the intelligence and the military intelligence people, and this stable of patsies and provocateurs, double agents, who, these are the winning ones, right?

00:43:47.000 Al-Raqqi, I'm sure, knows what he's doing, but then the people that he's working with are psychotics, fanatics, mental deficient, drug addicts, and so forth, sort of human pawns that they're quite expendable.

00:44:00.000 And can be used. 0.93

00:44:01.000 And the idea that, you know, they would kill the big brouhaha, of course, is that Obama says that he's got the ability to kill a lucky the CIA lackey whenever he wants. 0.50

00:44:11.000 Well, this is also not unheard of.

00:44:13.000 Right.

00:44:14.000 If if if our lucky overlives his usefulness, then he can be liquidated in some spectacular way.

00:44:20.000 And Webster to to to to to quantify this, it's very elementary.

00:44:25.000 And for adults out there that that that don't understand what problem reaction solution is, you've got a two trillion dollar plus overall defense budget every year enriching all these groups.

00:44:39.000 And if they want to invade oil-rich, opium-rich areas or key strategic zones, they're going to need to have an enemy.

00:44:46.000 And so they stage a terror attack, and then in the next nine years, they go and run these Muslim Brotherhood type brigades that are handled by these criminal types to stage events, to stir up mentally ill people, to carry out events, always as a pretext to invade the next sector or to project force into the next sector. 0.89

00:45:07.000 And so we see a Lockheed handling everybody.

00:45:10.000 They need to put in the naked body scanners they'd already ordered that were being delivered in December and January.

00:45:16.000 Boom! 0.99

00:45:17.000 They get a mental Patient, literally, who couldn't even talk and was drooling, according to witnesses.

00:45:23.000 He can't get on the plane.

00:45:24.000 Sharp-dressed man has such authority, he orders him on the plane with no, you know, no ID of any type.

00:45:29.000 That's the underwear bomber.

00:45:30.000 I mean, it's the same story over and over again.

00:45:32.000 It's been admitted that the emails to Alaki from Hassan at Fort Hood, and they won't give the full emails to Congress, and that they knew for two years he was planning, and he was asking Alaki, what do I do, your lordship?

00:45:44.000 I'm preparing to attack.

00:45:45.000 I mean, this is just unbelievable.

00:45:49.000 And who knows if Hassan even did anything, because they're erasing cell phone tapes, videos and other things that witnesses shot.

00:45:57.000 But I mean, it's just so transparent.

00:46:00.000 Comment on that.

00:46:00.000 And then briefly, why do you think this document got leaked?

00:46:04.000 And its authenticity has been confirmed.

00:46:09.000 Uh, Fox News, because, I mean, I think I know the answer.

00:46:12.000 The spin here is, oh, good people in the Pentagon were concerned this was just an accident.

00:46:18.000 Uh, but, uh, give us your take on that, Webster.

00:46:20.000 Well, certainly with Hassan, you'll remember that the original reports, and I think I wrote this up at the time, the original reports on Hassan were that there were, there were other shooters.

00:46:28.000 There were one, two other shooters, so... And there was a security drill going on, uh, for, uh, so it's always the same.

00:46:36.000 The other thing, of course, it's good that you mention the Muslim Brotherhood because the neocons like to throw this around.

00:46:42.000 The Muslim Brotherhood was created by British intelligence in Egypt in the 1920s because they wanted to counteract Egyptian Modernizing nationalism.

00:46:53.000 People who wanted to have a modern nation-state and the British wanted to have a counter-gang. 0.79

00:46:59.000 Well that's like Iraq. 0.91

00:47:01.000 I mean they kicked Saddam out.

00:47:03.000 That was an older policy of modernization.

00:47:05.000 And the women now are wearing the burqas. 0.97

00:47:08.000 Yes, and it's a continuity.

00:47:11.000 The Muslim Brotherhood really came into its own under President Nasser of Egypt, who was the classical figure of progressive, modernizing Arab nationalism, with a good chance to build a powerful country.

00:47:24.000 And of course, the Muslim Brotherhood was mobilized to try to sabotage that. 0.73

00:47:29.000 And Nasser put a lot of them in jail.

00:47:31.000 He treated them very brutally, needless to say.

00:47:33.000 So a lot of these groups are the second and third generation of the original Muslim Brotherhood.

00:47:40.000 But again, this is not an authentic, spontaneous creation of the culture and history of the Middle East.

00:47:46.000 It's an implant by British intelligence now with the U.S. playing a big role.

00:47:52.000 Well, take a SWAT on 7-7, BBC headline.

00:47:55.000 In fact, pull it up.

00:47:57.000 A SWAT mastermind of 7-7 MI6.

00:48:02.000 And they protected him even after.

00:48:04.000 I mean, it's incredible.

00:48:06.000 Yeah.

00:48:06.000 The other one is I think that we haven't paid enough attention to the fact that the Deputy Secretary of State of the United States, Kennedy, at the beginning of this year, right after the underwear bomber on Christmas Day, All right.

00:48:23.000 He's the Undersecretary of State for Consular Affairs, meaning visa.

00:48:29.000 So he was on the hot seat.

00:48:31.000 Why did you give him a visa?

00:48:32.000 Why did you let Abdulmutallab, the underwear bomber, why did you let him have an entry visa to the United States, without which he never could have gotten on the plane?

00:48:42.000 And he said, well, we wanted to take it away from him.

00:48:45.000 But we did an interagency review and there was an agency that came forward, which he didn't name, saying, no, you've got to let him keep his visa because we're, we've got eyes on him.

00:48:56.000 We're following him.

00:48:57.000 He's a little fish.

00:48:58.000 He'll lead us to the big fish.

00:49:00.000 And of course, the reality was that's the perfect cover.

00:49:03.000 To let him do whatever he did or didn't do, which I guess we still don't know, but the idea is it's a collusion and deception in which these expendable patsies, but again, then you've got the patsy supervisors, the patsy minders, You could probably think of Al-Awlaki, the CIA lackey, as a patsy supervisor and patsy minder. 0.88

00:49:28.000 And every now and then, for whatever reason, these things are exposed.

00:49:31.000 Sometimes it's bureaucratic rivalries, sometimes it's simply...

00:49:37.000 Uh, you know, coincidence, right?

00:49:39.000 There are coincidences in the world and sometimes for various reasons these things come out from people with other motives.

00:49:46.000 But the bottom line, of course, is that these events are staged.

00:49:51.000 They're part of the management of world affairs by, ultimately, the banking elite.

00:49:56.000 In other words, all this stuff It leads back through various mediations back to Wall Street, because if you look again at Yemen, it's not just that you can have dictatorship at home, but you can also attack countries. 0.92

00:50:09.000 In other words, if I have al-Aulaqi, the CIA lackey, and I've built up an aura around him, a cover story, a legend, that he's really an authentic terrorist firebrand and he blows up buildings and things like this. 0.87

00:50:23.000 If I send him into a country and he surfaces in the country, say Yemen, I'm now free to bomb Yemen. 1.00

00:50:29.000 And that's what they've been doing, right?

00:50:30.000 The US has bombed Yemen a number of times, allegedly with the idea that they were going after al-Raqqi, the CIA lackey.

00:50:37.000 All right, stay there.

00:50:37.000 Let's briefly come back and sum up where you see this going.

00:50:41.000 And how dumb do they think we are? 0.96

00:50:43.000 It's now hidden in plain view. 0.99

00:50:44.000 Oh, and he's not having dinner with the Secretary of the Army.

00:50:48.000 He's, uh, you know, running underwear bombs.

00:50:51.000 I mean, it's just so transparent, ladies and gentlemen.

00:50:54.000 This is after they said he masterminded 9-11.

00:50:55.000 He's at the Pentagon.

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00:54:10.000 Well, I'm sure you've got to go here in just a few minutes, but other key points.

00:54:15.000 Again, why do you think this got leaked?

00:54:17.000 Do you think it was somebody, really a good guy inside, or what would be the reason for them to leak this info that the, who they say the number one guy in Al-Qaeda in the world, he's hanging out with the Secretary of the Army?

00:54:28.000 I don't really know.

00:54:29.000 It's difficult to speculate.

00:54:31.000 Sometimes you have to wait for a few weeks to go by to figure out what the context was.

00:54:36.000 It could be that there's a faction fight inside the Pentagon.

00:54:40.000 It could be that the faction fight involves what the next step will be, right?

00:54:44.000 There may be one group that's more adventurous, that wants to have a false flag, maybe vis-a-vis Iran. 0.56

00:54:51.000 And there may be another group that says that's not a good idea, and they proceed in this way.

00:54:58.000 Or it could just be good guys inside that know that Al-Qaeda is synthetic and that they're tired of it.

00:55:05.000 Well, good guys, I wouldn't say good, but lesser evils, let's say.

00:55:08.000 There may be lesser evils inside who realize that some kind of a war with Iran, say, if that's what it is, would be a catastrophic adventure, worse than Iraq, most likely leading to a world war within a number of years. 0.81

00:55:22.000 So there were those considerations, too.

00:55:26.000 You mean like Fox Fallon, three years ago, refusing the head of CENTCOM to launch the attack on Iran?

00:55:32.000 Yes, somebody who says this is, you know, not for choir boy motives, but simply because even from an imperialist point of view, they might say if you attack Iran, then your Anglo-American imperialism will collapse faster than it would otherwise if you didn't, right?

00:55:48.000 Or you might want to wait for Wait for some other option to emerge, right?

00:55:53.000 I don't think it makes much sense to speculate, right?

00:55:55.000 If you have an inside source report, that's good, but right now I don't have one about this.

00:56:00.000 So, rather, I would suggest we look at, you know, what people can do, and since I have you on the phone here, uh...

00:56:07.000 in the last minute let me just recommend we there is this birth certificate march on the u_s_ capital tomorrow right that saturday and it starts at noon on the west front of the capital i think it's still birds marching the lawyer from philadelphia you've had a money he'd be went to the supreme court in august of two thousand eight to try to get obama to reveal his birth certificate his his place of birth and all these elementary constitutional things And this is a broad umbrella, right?

00:56:36.000 There are all kinds of reasons not to like Obama, right?

00:56:38.000 If you're anti-war, if you're anti-Federal Reserve, if you're anti-Wall Street, if you're anti-dictatorship, and so forth, right?

00:56:47.000 The key to all that is Obama.

00:56:49.000 And I personally look at it this way.

00:56:52.000 If he can't produce his birth certificate, which he can't do, because otherwise he would have done it.

00:56:57.000 Not only has he not done it, but he's fought against people who have tried to go into the records and pull out whatever there is there.

00:57:04.000 Who knows what it is?

00:57:05.000 We still don't know.

00:57:07.000 If he could do this, he would have done it, because it hurts him.

00:57:11.000 But in reality, he hasn't done it.

00:57:13.000 So I take it this means that he's blackmailable. 1.00

00:57:16.000 And this, for me, is the key.

00:57:17.000 If he can't produce the birth certificate, this fact meaning a whole series of intelligence agencies foreign domestic wall street uh saudi arabia you name it right any any country you want to name on the list it means that he can't be president of the united states he's the puppet of whoever is blackmailing him with this information i don't know that that's the case but that's the obvious prima facie danger and that's intolerable

00:57:44.000 so if he can't produce the birth certificate he He really has to leave office as president because he can't be president if he can't prove that he's qualified.

00:57:54.000 Webster, thank you for joining us.

00:57:55.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

00:57:57.000 Okay.

00:57:57.000 Tomorrow at noon at the Capitol.

00:57:58.000 Hope to see people there.

00:58:00.000 Absolutely.

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01:00:20.000 Well, joining us for the full hour, and we're very thankful for that, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, OperationDarkHeart.com.

01:00:38.000 Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer is a highly experienced intelligence officer and recipient of the Bronze Star, 25 years of field experience.

01:00:45.000 Tony has commanded and directed several key operations, intelligence organizations.

01:00:50.000 These include Special Mission Task Force Stratus IV that conducted direct support of DOD, Compartmentalized Activities, OSD, SOCOM, the Army.

01:01:01.000 It goes on if I go through his entire bio here.

01:01:05.000 Operation Dark Heart Story, the New York Times bestseller.

01:01:10.000 They suppressed a lot of it.

01:01:13.000 They bought up some of the first books and then blacked out a lot of it.

01:01:15.000 So they've really been trying to keep him from telling the politicians, the population of this country and the world, what he told Congress and what was suppressed during the 9-11 commission as well.

01:01:29.000 And he joins us to talk about all of this today.

01:01:32.000 Colonel, good to have you here with us.

01:01:34.000 Well, thank you for having me again, Alex.

01:01:36.000 Good to be on with you.

01:01:37.000 There is so much to talk about today, and we're going to break in a moment.

01:01:41.000 This is a short segment.

01:01:42.000 But out of the gates, just recap what happened with your book and what your book does deal with that certain elements of the Pentagon don't want people to see.

01:01:51.000 Well, it's ironic, Alex, when you think about it.

01:01:54.000 We talked about this on your show.

01:01:56.000 As a matter of fact, we had a deep, detailed discussion about the fact that the Army had just completed reviewing and clearing it the first time you and I talked.

01:02:04.000 So, it's interesting that, according to the Defense Intelligence Agency, they have a clue.

01:02:09.000 They had no clue that the book was coming until, like, mid-summer.

01:02:12.000 I mean, it's just beyond the pale of belief.

01:02:16.000 And plus, in addition to mentioning it on your show, I mentioned it on national TV, the O'Reilly Show, Larry King, and in the end, they decided, DOD, with Defense Intelligence Agency leading the charge, literally decided to intercede on the publication of my book the day before the book was going to be distributed nationally.

01:02:36.000 So you've got to wonder, why on earth would you wait to the very last minute?

01:02:39.000 It was very clear, just to summarize before we get into the details.

01:02:43.000 They meant to disrupt the release of the book for any number of reasons, and obviously, despite the fact that it was cleared by the Army, there were apparently a number of things in the book that DOD, and again, the Defense Intelligence Agency, is different than the Army, if your listeners do understand.

01:02:59.000 They are distinctively different organizations within the Department of Defense, and often they have different objectives and views.

01:03:05.000 And for whatever reason, the DIA has, and I think you and I know why, the DIA has some pretty bad feelings about me and my disclosures back in 2003, initially to Philip Zellicow and Tim Bagram regarding able danger, and then, of course, my testimony, which got me fired in 2005 and 2006. my testimony, which got me fired in 2005 and 2006.

01:03:24.000 So it's really those issues, I believe, at the core of why they did this, literally the 11th hour interdiction of the book, trying to cause maximum disruption and havoc.

01:03:36.000 Uh, essentially to send a message to others to say, you know, you probably don't want to, you know, break ranks because we're just going to make your life miserable any chance we get.

01:03:44.000 And of course we've heard about these new DOD rules that officers can't talk to any media about any subject without authorization.

01:03:51.000 Have they been trying to use that on you?

01:03:53.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.

01:03:54.000 I did seek and I did obtain guidance before the current publicity tour I'm doing right now.

01:04:02.000 And so, essentially, the guidance I've been given is that I can talk about the book, which has been cleared, but I have to be careful that I can't talk about certain elements of the Army, you know, I'm an Army Reservist, so there's certain things I can't talk about within the context of that.

01:04:16.000 Uh, and obviously I've been reminded of my security oath, which, you know, I'm not sure if you're aware, but my security clearance was restored as part of the review of the book.

01:04:26.000 So obviously they try to use that to prohibit me from talking about the information they took out of the book.

01:04:31.000 And that's, and by the way, Alex, that's going to be a subject of a First Amendment suit against DOD here in the very near future.

01:04:38.000 Well, let's talk about that suit, what you can talk about that's in the book, and if you can give us any hints in the parameters of the law about what was excised from the book, and we'll also get into some other key issues with Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, who is a number one bestseller out there right now.

01:04:55.000 We'll be right back.

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01:08:11.000 There can be no doubt, megacorporations have basically taken over this country and almost every other nation.

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01:08:27.000 OperationDarkHeart.com is the website.

01:08:31.000 The book is the Operation Dark Heart Story, now a New York Times bestseller.

01:08:36.000 The Pentagon grabbed the book, destroyed the original copies, made a deal with the publisher to block out large parts of it.

01:08:44.000 And Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shafer is one of the chief officers over Stratus Ivey, or the head of that, and also involved deeply in Abel Danger.

01:08:57.000 And what is in the book is what he told Congress, and so much came out as the book neared its publication backing up everything he talked about that I think that's one of the biggest reasons they've tried to suppress your book.

01:09:12.000 Am I wrong in saying that, Colonel?

01:09:14.000 No, I think you're right.

01:09:15.000 I think there's three things in popular media right now that you can refer to and very easily pick it up.

01:09:19.000 As a matter of fact, a fellow author at my publisher is General Hugh Shelton.

01:09:23.000 His book is just out.

01:09:25.000 And he actually talks about the existence and success of Able Danger on page 282-283.

01:09:32.000 So, right there's a clue.

01:09:34.000 The next big clue that people have talked about a little bit is a book called Horse Soldiers, where General Jeffrey Lambert talks about the fact that not only did we discover Muhammad Ata as part of Able Danger that he was briefed on, he admits this, He was the guy who prohibited me from moving the FBI, the information to the FBI relating to the 9-11 terrorists.

01:09:55.000 And then most damning, I think, was a Fox News thing, which was done recently, I think within the last two weeks, relating to the fact that they got a hold of the DOD Inspector General report, God bless them for getting a copy, that was unredacted, which means they could go out and talk to the actual individuals, the DOD IG.

01:10:13.000 It had tried to hide the individuals by basically coding which made it kind of a gobbledygook and you really couldn't make heads or tails of who said what.

01:10:22.000 And I think they did it for a reason.

01:10:24.000 They used the Privacy Act as an excuse, but I think clearly their intention was something different.

01:10:27.000 Well, anyway, they got a copy of the unredacted report with the names, and of course, the first thing any good investigative organization's gonna do is go back and check, and that's what they did.

01:10:35.000 They went back and re-interviewed folks and showed these folks their testimony.

01:10:39.000 I'm sorry, the interview results, basically the summary of what was attributed to them.

01:10:45.000 And I think everybody they talked to said, that's not what I said.

01:10:48.000 That's not remotely what I said.

01:10:50.000 And oh, by the way, they left out key information to include the fact that in one instance, one of the witnesses talked about the fact that she was the one who discovered the Mohamed Attaf photo.

01:10:59.000 So it's kind of like, you know, those are kind of big facts and why would you leave those out if not for the fact that you had a narrative you wanted to say that any facts counter to that narrative would be deleted.

01:11:13.000 So yeah, I think your listeners can go check for themselves.

01:11:16.000 A lot of this is coming out now.

01:11:18.000 And I think one of the grand ironies in all this, Alex, is DOD, right before that story on the DOD IG report came out, the DOD spokesman said they stand by the report.

01:11:26.000 So, you've got to ask yourself what's going on if they still stand by a report which has clearly been proven to be less than accurate.

01:11:35.000 And why would they be standing by an inaccurate report if not for some reason?

01:11:39.000 Well, Colonel, in a nutshell for new listeners, they've heard about Abel Danger, they've heard about Colonel Schaefer, but They heard about your book being suppressed, but they're... You know, what's the bottom line of the story?

01:11:51.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, it's that elements of the Army, headed up by you and others, knew the attacks were coming, knew who the people were, wanted to take them out, and you were blocked from doing that.

01:12:03.000 And some of that came out at the time.

01:12:05.000 You know, Army's angry.

01:12:06.000 Colonels are angry.

01:12:07.000 You know, they had bin Laden and Atta in their sights.

01:12:10.000 They were told to stand down.

01:12:12.000 And then the media spun it, well, it was a turf battle.

01:12:14.000 The CIA and private contractors, you know, weren't sharing information, or they wanted to be able to, you know, be the ones that gave the green light, kind of like it's branches of the regular armed services fighting with each other.

01:12:26.000 But I mean, in a nutshell, boil down what Able Danger was doing, as much as you can say, and what the book gets into on that subject.

01:12:36.000 Well, Able Danger was essentially a pre 9-11 designed in the 99 timeframe to be an offensive, and this is very critical for your listeners to understand, this was an offensive capability.

01:12:49.000 So often in the Department of Defense we defend things.

01:12:51.000 This was meant to be something we could go out and take proactive action, and that's the key here, to go after global terrorism, and the primary focus was Al Qaeda.

01:13:02.000 That's very clear what the objective was.

01:13:04.000 Within the context of that then we started doing and I'll be I can't get into the specific operational objectives, but I Can say that the data mining thing is but one aspect of it And this is the data mining thing while crucial and has become the public face of it There is a lot more to it than that that still cannot cannot be talked to talked about for any number of reasons but they do relate to the fact that The idea was to go after these guys offensively.

01:13:27.000 And within the ramp up, any good operation, you have a period of time you're trying to do planning, you're trying to put things together.

01:13:35.000 The ramp up portion included the data mining effort, which was to map Al Qaeda.

01:13:40.000 And Alex, there was some turf battles, and this is one of those things that recently, Michael Shoyer and I were on a show together, and I think he and I publicly disagree about specific operational issues because I think there was competition, but the one thing I think he and I both agreed on is that the aftermath of whatever you want to call happened, there was no intention of taking information from him or me to try to put the pieces back together.

01:14:05.000 With that said, let me continue on the April Danger issue.

01:14:08.000 Able Danger, then, was created.

01:14:12.000 We put, essentially, a blue-ribbon team together.

01:14:15.000 General Peter Schumacher, Commander of Special Operations Command, was really the protector of it.

01:14:20.000 And the idea was to be prepared, on call, to go after Al-Qaeda.

01:14:25.000 And not to interfere with what Alex Station, and there's been a great deal of discussion, public discussion, about Alex Station, Alex Base, and what they did to target bin Laden for covert action.

01:14:35.000 We were not going after bin Laden.

01:14:36.000 We were going after the infrastructure, looking at elements of that infrastructure for purposes of understanding it, primarily, and then at some appropriate time using A variety of techniques and procedures to do something to degrade it, to make it less effective than it might be, and that's where the mystery deepens.

01:14:54.000 By the fact that we had continued to work until essentially January of 2001, at which time everything stops.

01:15:03.000 There was a briefing to General Hugh Shelton that this was made public, and then that's where the trail kind of ends.

01:15:10.000 So you were blocked, bottom line, from frustrating Al Qaeda?

01:15:15.000 That's a great summary, yes.

01:15:16.000 That's essentially the bottom line of what happened, yes.

01:15:20.000 Okay.

01:15:22.000 Let's get to the heart of this.

01:15:24.000 I'm sure you know about Sybil Edmonds, FBI translator.

01:15:29.000 She's broken her gag order in court. 1.00

01:15:31.000 Headline, CIA in control of Al Qaeda up until day of 9-11.

01:15:37.000 She's listening to people inside our government talking to Al Qaeda leadership and you know you see that you think this woman has no reason to lie then we have this Fox News headline yesterday exclusive Al Qaeda leader dined at Pentagon just months after 9-11 Anwar al-Awlaki he's the guy reportedly Behind the Fort Hood nut.

01:16:01.000 He's the guy behind the underwear dud.

01:16:05.000 He's the guy behind the Times Square, we're told.

01:16:08.000 He's always in contact.

01:16:10.000 And then the CIA for two years knows that he's talking to this army officer, the psychiatrist.

01:16:21.000 Right.

01:16:22.000 And I mean, this is amazing.

01:16:24.000 What do you say to that?

01:16:26.000 Well, this is where you and I may disagree.

01:16:28.000 I don't know.

01:16:29.000 I'm trying to keep my faith in the government as best I can.

01:16:33.000 And from my own personal experience, I've seen huge incompetence.

01:16:39.000 And I know that a lot of folks think there may be something more to that.

01:16:42.000 I honestly don't know.

01:16:44.000 I'll say this.

01:16:45.000 The only way we're going to get to the bottom of anything relating to Anwar al-Awlaki The relationship between he and the Department of Defense and, frankly, the FBI.

01:16:54.000 The FBI, at one point in time, if you check the record of Fox News' reporting on this, they actually canceled an arrest warrant for him.

01:17:01.000 He was here illegally by the fact that there was a warrant out for his arrest because he fraudulently came to the United States as a foreign student and had his college paid for.

01:17:10.000 Well, it's the same thing with a SWAT, the supposed mastermind of 7-7, BBC headline, a SWAT MI6 protected after attacks.

01:17:20.000 I mean, here you've got somebody having dinner in a big meeting with the Secretary of the Army, who's a supposed college student, who the news is already saying is involved in 9-11, but if I try to go get into the Pentagon, I'm not going to be able to meet with a sergeant.

01:17:35.000 I mean, this is amazing!

01:17:37.000 And your point is well taken.

01:17:40.000 On my Facebook page, I posted the very thing you're talking about regarding the dining and people went wild over it.

01:17:46.000 I mean, it's very clearly something people are concerned and should be concerned about.

01:17:51.000 And this goes back to the original point of why you and I are talking here today.

01:17:54.000 I think there's a narrative out there, no matter what is behind it, there is a narrative Which people are dissuaded from pursuing.

01:18:02.000 And that is the narrative of truth, trying to find out what exactly happened.

01:18:05.000 There's this alternate history that's been put forward by the 9-11 Commission, which clearly states, and their bottom line is 9-11 was not preventable and we just have to accept that fact.

01:18:15.000 Well, I argue that fact.

01:18:17.000 To the point of being blue in the face.

01:18:19.000 I think that is just flat out.

01:18:20.000 Well they started with the preset statement that this was not preventable and we're not going to look at how this happened.

01:18:29.000 We're going to look at what we should do and the answer is a police state.

01:18:33.000 Well, and to back you up on that a little bit here too, just look at what happened over the last few days, Alex, with Leon Panetta over at CIA.

01:18:42.000 And tragically, there was seven CIA officers and two guards lost last year at Camp Chapman.

01:18:48.000 And the answer there, and I'm just baffled by this, is Leon Panetta's comments as Director of CIA.

01:18:54.000 Well, mistakes were made, but we're not going to fire anybody.

01:18:56.000 So, you know, you've got to ask yourself, why would people like me get fired over, you know, trivial allegations which didn't stand up to any legal process?

01:19:06.000 You know, that I'll actually use my clearance and my job over, while others who, you know, literally allow tragedies to happen where loss of life are the prime outcome, and nothing ever happens bad.

01:19:17.000 I'm fascinated by the disparity of the standards within our own government.

01:19:21.000 Well, remember the record up until that time in 2001, the record FBI bonuses were given to the specific leadership that blocked all of the good FBI people who were on the hijackers nationwide.

01:19:34.000 Right, and I think that's a point well taken, and I'd like your listeners to understand that there are still good people in the government, it's just that they are often ridiculed, set aside, put in places of limited scope because of the fact that people like me like stirring trouble up.

01:19:49.000 And trouble to them is just getting your job done.

01:19:52.000 Well, Colonel Schaffer, I mean look, I've got a lot of family who's been in the Army, and almost anyone I've talked to who's been in the Army in my family, the CIA tried to recruit them.

01:20:03.000 And one of them was recruited and got out of it because he just says it was completely criminal stuff inside the U.S., drugs, you name it, in Chicago.

01:20:11.000 And, you know, the CIA is constantly getting caught with airplanes crashing full of cocaine.

01:20:16.000 I mean, my whole issue is we know the government's got a lot of good people in it on the light side, but you've got the dark side that basically operates as a mafia.

01:20:24.000 And, you know, I mean, there needs to be an investigation of why one of the top al-Qaeda masterminds, the government tells us, Anwar al-Awlaki, is hanging out with the top brass two months after 9-11.

01:20:34.000 I mean, that's a big deal.

01:20:36.000 And I think there needs to be an entire relook, at least in the defense side, of the very issue.

01:20:40.000 I mean, I support a lot of folks that you and I both have friends on Facebook.

01:20:44.000 They've all called for an investigation.

01:20:46.000 I support that.

01:20:47.000 But if nothing else, if nothing else, we've got to call into account for these actions you just mentioned.

01:20:53.000 I mean, why on earth would you have done this?

01:20:55.000 There's other things regarding Al-Awlaki which are still very peculiar, I'll say that, without getting into something too dramatic.

01:21:02.000 As well as the 9-11 issues regarding Able Danger.

01:21:04.000 I mean, it's one of those situations where, you know, it's very clear that I hit a sore spot again by merely putting, and your listeners, I hope they will go out and pick the book up at some point, Dark Heart, by the fact that I go through in painful detail to give the reader a good understanding of what happened in that room when I mentioned Able Danger to Dr. Philip Zelikow.

01:21:26.000 And Alex, I hope you understand, I went in there with as many facts that could be verified as possible so that he could leave that room and go back to the United States and pursue getting the document, getting the information necessary.

01:21:39.000 And, of course, one of the big mysteries, and this was something I will talk about because I had to threaten the DOD editors when we went through my book again in early September, that they actually tried to pull a paragraph out where I talk about the fact that Defense Intelligence Agency allowed my 9-11 able danger documents to go that they actually tried to pull a paragraph out where I And I had to threaten them.

01:21:59.000 I said, look, I'm not this is it.

01:22:01.000 You know, you can pull a lot of crap out, but this is the deal.

01:22:04.000 The moment you start pulling information out which relates directly to my congressional testimony, you may do that, but you will lose by the fact that I will just stick a copy of my testimony in the back of the book and people will still see it.

01:22:15.000 So, you've got to wonder why, you know, we're talking about information which in some cases is over 10 years old, the disclosure was made in 2003, why would they be interested in Well, for those that don't know, and it's all in the book, Dark Heart, tell us, what did Zelikow, I mean, what did you say to him about Able Danger that freaked him out?

01:22:39.000 Well, it was, we were all in this room, this is October 2003, in a combat zone, and Dr. Zelikow and two other, I'm sorry, three other of his staff were actually at Bagram doing kind of a whirlwind tour of the combat zone.

01:22:53.000 Trying to find people who had pre 9-11 intelligence that had not been previously provided to them.

01:22:59.000 Essentially, I think it was a very wise move to go out and just kind of, you know, hit the, you know, go out into the bush and see what what you find from knocking some rocks over.

01:23:08.000 With that said, I don't think they really wanted to find out what was under those rocks based on what happened.

01:23:13.000 During this meeting, I had a full hour Where I did a point paper and laid out to him the full scope of a clandestine human intelligence operation relating to Able Danger as well as the Able Danger Project itself.

01:23:29.000 And at the end of that hour, there was just stunned silence.

01:23:32.000 And I talked about the fact that we discovered the 9-11 hijackers, at least four of them, basically who were in.

01:23:41.000 Two of the three cells which conducted the successful 9-11 attacks.

01:23:45.000 And most notably, at the end of the meeting, after everybody was getting ready to leave, Zelikow comes up to me, presents his card to me, and says, what you've said today is critically important.

01:23:54.000 I need you to come see me when you return to the United States after your tour here in Afghanistan.

01:23:59.000 So, um, that was the result, uh, Zelikow being just, I, you know, I can honestly say I think there was a, a, a moment of being stunned by his entire staff and everybody in the room by the fact that talked about our finding Mohammed Atta and the other hijackers in our data, in our data mining effort to target Al Qaeda.

01:24:17.000 And there was no doubt of his concern because he personally later admitted, right before my hearings in 2006, that yes, they did go back and check on Able Danger, but according to them, the Pentagon only gave them two briefcase container-sized things and there was nothing in them.

01:24:35.000 And this is the peculiar thing, Alex, you know, they've already been told, they've already figured out now the Pentagon's lied to them about a number of things relating to the attack, the NORAD issues and some other things, but for some reason Zelikow still backs the Pentagon on this one issue, saying, oh no, we're sure that the Pentagon is telling us the truth.

01:24:51.000 So anyone who's been around Washington any length of time understands the moment someone Well, absolutely.

01:24:57.000 like that where you know they've been lied to multiple times but this one thing they're telling the truth on you know they feel they're telling the truth on that means there's something there and i think your listeners are very intelligent and can figure out for themselves that there's some reason they don't want this to be talked about and they're continuing this effort to suppress me and and what i talk about as best they can and i think in this case with my book it backfired on them well absolutely and colonel i mean a lot of people don't know this but it's been in the news but it hasn't gotten the attention

01:25:24.000 it should six of the ten commissioners of the 9-11 commissioner on record saying the pentagon has been involved one of them used the term in a criminal Well,

01:25:35.000 cover up and that we were lied to by the Pentagon and the White House and then along comes a colonel who is not corrupt and backs up that information and they're trying to suppress your book when a lot of what's in your book, I've now had a chance to read most of it, has already come out in pieces and been confirmed in other declassifications, other books that have been written.

01:25:57.000 It's just that you put it all together and have a conclusion that they don't like.

01:26:03.000 I think it's absolutely correct.

01:26:04.000 I think when you put the totality together, you start seeing a picture emerge.

01:26:08.000 And this is one of the things, you know, the Army, God bless them, were very good about forcing me during the initial review.

01:26:16.000 And let me be very clear here, there is a lot of information That was truly classified regarding things I did in Afghanistan that we cannot talk about because it is truly classified.

01:26:27.000 With that said, the Army made me source everything.

01:26:28.000 I actually hired a researcher who went through and found open sources of pretty much everything in the book.

01:26:35.000 And my objective here, Alex, was not to reveal secrets, but was to create a narrative, a true narrative, that showed factually what happened, what went wrong, and not only regarding the Able Danger thing, but the larger war in Afghanistan, why things have gone so badly wrong there.

01:26:52.000 And the last chapter, which you'll see in the book there, is The Path to Victory, where I actually sat down and worked on coming up with reasonable courses of action for the future.

01:27:01.000 I went to Ireland, did some original research talking to folks in Northern Ireland regarding the Irish peace process.

01:27:07.000 And that's probably what they really don't like, is that you're now trying, in their view, to, quote, meddle in policy when all that's really happening is they're meddling.

01:27:19.000 And things are getting worse and worse over there.

01:27:22.000 Well, and I think that's the problem.

01:27:23.000 You know, when you... and there's been some huge mistakes here, Alex.

01:27:26.000 Let me just say a couple things for your listeners, which are obvious, but I think people, the press in particular, has not done a good job picking up on.

01:27:33.000 We announced the surge, and then we announced the five provinces we were putting people into.

01:27:38.000 And I've always talked about, this is akin to, would you have told the British to tell the Germans, hey, by the way, we're only going to hit four beaches on D-Day, and these are the beaches, so just be prepared for us to hit on June 6th.

01:27:48.000 We didn't do that.

01:27:49.000 And then the other thing, when you start looking at the actual effects of what we're doing, this New York Times article from two days ago talked about us being able, basically, slicing up the Taliban, doing a great job of taking Kandahar back.

01:28:02.000 Of course it took us six months to do that.

01:28:04.000 And Amidwali Karzai, the current governor of Kandahar and the Kandahar province, By the way, President Karzai, President of Afghanistan, comments that the Taliban have left but we don't know where they went.

01:28:20.000 Of course not.

01:28:21.000 It's like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall. 0.88

01:28:23.000 By the way, his brother is the biggest opium dealer.

01:28:27.000 And that's, I think, been very well reported on by a number of credible sources about the fact that, you know, that the reason that the drug problem is as prominent as it is is not only because of the Taliban, but because of elements other than the Taliban, possibly, you know, official elements, being engaged in that very issue.

01:28:44.000 And that's why you see, that's one of the reasons you see the slippage of Marjah.

01:28:47.000 Marjah was supposed to be the textbook example of how we're going to secure the rest of the country, and you and I both know, Alex, that's essentially stuck back into chaos now.

01:28:55.000 So, when you look at the actions of how we've done things, why we're doing them, you've really got to ask yourself, and this is one of the reasons I wrote the book, is for the American people to ask some really hard questions.

01:29:08.000 What do we hope to accomplish when everybody, to include President Obama, has talked about the fact that the real issues are not in Afghanistan, they are in Pakistan.

01:29:17.000 And until we take those issues seriously, we will continue to essentially make no progress.

01:29:23.000 Let's talk about your plan.

01:29:26.000 I mean, you've been there.

01:29:28.000 You've been through it.

01:29:30.000 You've tried to study the region.

01:29:33.000 Your idea for ending this war on good terms versus where you see things going.

01:29:41.000 I want to get more into the book, Dark Heart, and some of the things you can now talk about.

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01:33:18.000 And I've got a host of subjects I want to cover with him, but summing up your experience there and now watching what's happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where do you see the war going versus where you think it should go?

01:33:33.000 I think the one critical issue, Alex, that we've continued to not fully understand and deal with is the fact that the real insecurity of that region has to do with the Cold War between India and Pakistan.

01:33:46.000 The Pakistanis are far more worried about the Indians and their nuclear program, and rightfully so, because anytime you have people on your border with nuclear weapons, you have reason to be concerned. 1.00

01:33:56.000 With that said, Afghanistan has become essentially a smaller microcosm Of proxy warfare, much like we did during the Cold War with the Soviets when we were facing off with them. 0.51

01:34:07.000 Everybody else fell into one of two camps, them or us.

01:34:11.000 And I think what you've seen here lately is the Indians, and for any number of reasons, attempting to gain some access to the Afghan region.

01:34:21.000 They built a power plant, they've done other things commercially, and frankly the Afghans have partnered with them on some things which have made the Pakistanis very uncomfortable. 0.98

01:34:30.000 And so you've got things like the Haqqani Network, one of the prime elements of the Taliban, and for your listeners to understand, the Taliban is not a monolithic, self-managed organization.

01:34:42.000 It is a tapestry of sub-organizations, often of which have their own objectives relating to their own area of the country.

01:34:51.000 We're talking about tribes which have been there for thousands of years who will probably always be there in some form.

01:34:56.000 So this is not a cohesive state.

01:34:59.000 So the Taliban have been successfully, in some cases, co-opted by the Pakistani Intelligence Service, which I talk about in my book.

01:35:08.000 The economy network in particular has become a proxy for the Pakistanis who go after the Indian interest in Afghanistan to include launching attacks. 0.59

01:35:17.000 So the reason I bring this up as a specific is to illustrate the larger issue.

01:35:21.000 The fact that we've got to focus not only on the Afghan government because frankly I don't see why we are focused on the Afghan government.

01:35:30.000 We have a number of other allies in the region who are not democracies and I cite for you the Jordanians and the Saudis who seem to be doing fairly well as a government but are not in any shape or form a democracy.

01:35:43.000 So why are we pushing so hard for a Jeffersonian style democracy where, you know, you're talking about people who think in terms of the 10th century?

01:35:51.000 So, I think we're trying to push a noodle up the hill with no even perception of a good outcome for us.

01:35:58.000 I think we need to be focused on Pakistan and Pakistan's nuclear weapons. 1.00

01:36:02.000 And in addition to the Cold War, Alex, what we need to be worried about is the fact that both the Taliban elements in Pakistan and Al-Qaeda have stated clearly without any sort of Clarification other than that they're intended to obtain and use nuclear weapons from the Pakistani arsenal against us.

01:36:23.000 And if you look back on the 9-11 attacks, there were actually warnings available to us saying that they intended to do attacks on us, which have been widely talked about.

01:36:32.000 So there's no reason to say that they won't do that now.

01:36:34.000 Well, Colonel, I mean, here's my issue.

01:36:38.000 Clearly, Pakistani intelligence has ran, you know, the major elements or organized the different tribes with the U.S.

01:36:46.000 in that nine-year war or ten-year war with the Soviets.

01:36:50.000 And then General Hamid Gul, our media says, is this great hero back then. 0.87

01:36:54.000 Now our media implies, you know, that he somehow I agree.

01:36:59.000 big leader, but he's come on this show to say, look, your drone attacks, all of this, it's just stirring people up.

01:37:05.000 This is a destabilization operation.

01:37:07.000 I agree.

01:37:08.000 I agree with you on that point.

01:37:09.000 So my issue is I hear that there's all these Pakistani intelligence connections to the different Taliban groups, which, of course, are in their country.

01:37:18.000 What do you expect?

01:37:20.000 But I see more connections with our Pentagon, you know, like al-Awlaki having dinner with the head of the army, than I do to Pakistani intelligence.

01:37:29.000 So are you saying Pakistani intelligence is running attacks against our troops?

01:37:33.000 Or what elements?

01:37:34.000 And what do you think of General Hamid Gul?

01:37:37.000 Well, let me answer that in two pieces.

01:37:39.000 First, regarding the destabilization, I could not agree with Amit Gul more.

01:37:45.000 I think we have destabilized Pakistan by our actions. 1.00

01:37:49.000 I agree with him 110%.

01:37:51.000 The basic fact is we don't understand the culture.

01:37:53.000 While I talk about that in my book, I recommend it to your listeners to pick up and Yeah, clearly we don't understand the culture and by our fumbling around in that region, we have helped destabilize the Pakistanis. 1.00

01:38:04.000 We put them in a position where they have to basically split themselves regarding their own self-interest, which has resulted in the chaos you now see.

01:38:10.000 With that said, yeah, I do believe there's elements of the ISI who have encouraged the Taliban to maintain an insurgency in Afghanistan, which resulted in the death of U.S.

01:38:20.000 troops.

01:38:22.000 I mean, Ghul himself has been involved, but I think that there are elements are, and I've had friends of mine in the media who have been there, embedded with the Taliban, and gone across the border into Afghanistan.

01:38:30.000 But the Taliban is Afghanistan, so what you're basically saying is, just like India's trying to influence, Pakistan's trying to influence, the United States is trying to influence.

01:38:40.000 And with that said then, I think the best thing we can do is pull ourselves out.

01:38:40.000 Right, yes.

01:38:44.000 And I do agree about the drone strikes as well.

01:38:46.000 I've gone, as a matter of fact, it's been ironic, I've gone on several networks to include one where a, you know, I'm fundamentally a conservative thinker and I had a liberal telling me that they thought the drone attacks was the best thing since sliced bread, which I just found fascinating coming out of a liberal.

01:39:00.000 But with that said, No, I think the drone strikes are hugely destabilizing.

01:39:05.000 And I've used this, I think, before.

01:39:08.000 You and I may have talked about this.

01:39:10.000 How long would it last for us to be lobbing missiles into the southwest border?

01:39:17.000 Where, you know, we got a drug cartel and say, you know, Nougalis coming across the border.

01:39:23.000 And yeah, we fire off one of these drones, you know, fire off a missile and kill, you know, five drug guys.

01:39:28.000 And we take out three families from Minot, North Dakota.

01:39:31.000 How long would that last here?

01:39:33.000 It wouldn't last very long.

01:39:34.000 So why do we have a different standard of attack in Pakistan?

01:39:38.000 Fundamentally, if you don't have a clear shot and you take out what they call collateral damage, you've then created additional generations of terrorists.

01:39:45.000 Because, obviously, this region of the world understands the idea very well of vengeance.

01:39:50.000 It's one of the driving forces of it.

01:39:51.000 Exactly.

01:39:52.000 You talked about 10th century.

01:39:54.000 Imagine... I mean, it's not just...

01:39:57.000 If we had drones attacking northern Mexico, but drones attacking areas in Texas, i.e.

01:40:02.000 Pakistan, and just that fundamental primitive level of it's like Skynet has death birds in the air raining Hellfire missiles down on us. 1.00

01:40:13.000 I mean, that is going to create people that are going to fight back because of vengeance, because of a debt to score, a blood debt, an eye for an eye, and then they're called terrorists, but I mean, bottom line, if somebody killed your family, what would you do?

01:40:27.000 Maybe that's the policy.

01:40:29.000 Order out of chaos.

01:40:30.000 They want to go in and get Pakistan's nukes. 0.99

01:40:32.000 They want to destabilize Pakistan. 0.99

01:40:34.000 They want to have a radical Muslim uprising as a pretext to go into Pakistan.

01:40:39.000 And that's what General Hamid Ghul and others have said on this show they believe is the real endgame.

01:40:45.000 You know, it's one of those things where you and I may disagree, but the fact is the fact, and what you're stating essentially are the facts as they're now kind of self-identifying.

01:40:55.000 The fact is that we have, and I believe, one of the things my think tank has done is we actually, by just taking a step back and looking at the facts, do believe That by the U.S.

01:41:06.000 inability, and again, you may attribute it to a deeper objective.

01:41:10.000 I attribute it to basically incompetence and not understanding what the hell we're doing.

01:41:15.000 The fact that we, by our very actions, have helped destabilize Pakistan, and it resulted in the government being probably the least stable it's ever been, and since its inception in, I believe, 1947.

01:41:27.000 And it's not going to get any better by the fact that we continue to do the very bad acts to help destabilize.

01:41:33.000 And you've got this nationalistic, long, you know, hundreds-year-old plus.

01:41:38.000 I mean, Pakistan and India had, what, two wars last century alone.

01:41:42.000 Big ones with each other.

01:41:43.000 And they've got disputed areas in Kashmir.

01:41:46.000 I mean, if I was India, I'd be wanting to bury the hatchet and work with Pakistan. 1.00

01:41:50.000 But either side doesn't want that.

01:41:53.000 So what is your plan, from the deep research you've done and being over there in the culture deep, what is your plan to extricate ourselves from the region?

01:42:04.000 Well, first thing I would do if I were the President, I would declare victory and leave Afghanistan tomorrow. 0.99

01:42:08.000 And I would just say, we've done our job, we've no longer, we've not had a terrorist attack mounted from Afghanistan since we invaded.

01:42:15.000 It's time to leave.

01:42:17.000 And with that, I would not completely, like, leave the country.

01:42:20.000 think that we would probably leave about twenty thousand troops uh...

01:42:23.000 mostly special operations guys there to focus on just elements that we need to focus on to make sure that no other terrorist training camps are created things like that based we're trying to fundamentally make sure that things don't happen uh...

01:42:35.000 as they get in and and the uh... the late eighties early nineties or you know we basically left the country for anyone to go in there and do what they wanted and then work with the pakistan is and the indians to negotiate a peace One of the things I found very hopeful, and again you may disagree with me on this, but General Petraeus said two weeks ago that we need to establish a Northern Ireland peace process for the region.

01:42:57.000 And you've been saying that six months ago, so maybe they're listening to you.

01:43:01.000 Well, it's interesting.

01:43:02.000 I hope maybe Gerald Petraeus actually got one of the copies of the unredacted books before they shredded it at the Pentagon.

01:43:07.000 But yes, he actually said that, and I think it's notable, and here's why.

01:43:10.000 The Northern Ireland peace process, one which was very bloody, and this is one of the notable things.

01:43:16.000 I'm not sure if your listeners fully understand.

01:43:18.000 That was not a pleasant process.

01:43:20.000 It took both sides at one point in time, essentially self-eliminating the most extreme elements of their ranks.

01:43:29.000 And it was one of those things where it was breaking a pathology.

01:43:33.000 What we have now is a pathology.

01:43:36.000 We have generation after generation kind of doing the same thing.

01:43:39.000 And we need to find a way to give them alternative things to do.

01:43:42.000 And, you know, these folks are going to be tribal.

01:43:45.000 They've been tribal for thousands of years.

01:43:47.000 There's no reason to believe that they're going to behave differently and come to a 21st century understanding of society.

01:43:53.000 And it's a lot cheaper to...

01:43:55.000 To...

01:43:56.000 To not have trillion-dollar wars, but to actually build some schools and roads, and, I mean, just give cash payments to every person in Afghanistan.

01:44:04.000 I've seen the breakdown.

01:44:05.000 It'd be a lot cheaper to do that than to continue this.

01:44:09.000 Right, exactly.

01:44:10.000 And then, look, I've got to say, abandon the Karzai government.

01:44:13.000 If it survives on its own, wonderful.

01:44:16.000 Then so be it.

01:44:17.000 Yeah, because we're claiming we're giving him democracy, but it's the opposite.

01:44:21.000 Everybody knows he's been stealing these elections.

01:44:23.000 Right. 1.00

01:44:24.000 And that makes us look hugely stupid, Alex, in the eyes of the world. 0.99

01:44:28.000 You know, where is our standards here for actually knowingly supporting a dictator? 0.99

01:44:33.000 They want to be able to self-determine.

01:44:34.000 That's what you're saying.

01:44:35.000 That's what I'm saying, and I think that's the best course of action for us, to not determine for them what's best for them.

01:44:40.000 I think that's arrogant and socially, you know, gonna get us in trouble by the fact we are then trying to nation-build, not do what's necessary to support our own country.

01:44:47.000 Well, really, isn't it just the liberal control freaks just love to control countries?

01:44:52.000 Well, it's interesting because one of the things, don't get me wrong, when I was there on the ground, and I talk about this in my book, about the fact that when I was down in Kabul, the little kids would come up and want to be our quote-unquote bodyguards.

01:45:03.000 And this was them kind of taking us around to shops and they would get kickbacks from us and the shop owners.

01:45:08.000 And I always made a point to pick a female bodyguard, which drove the elders crazy because, you know, well that's really a little boy's work, not a woman's work. 0.92

01:45:16.000 With that said, the liberals have made a cause of this, where they're saying, well, you know, if we leave, the Afghan women will be, you know, victimized.

01:45:25.000 You know, as much as that is tragic and I feel personally bad about it, it is not our job to determine every single society's what's good and what's bad for them.

01:45:34.000 I mean, I know that sounds harsh, but, you know, the idea of securing a country just simply because we have a social requirement to do so, You know, we're not, we just don't have... But you know that's a cover because the same, quote, liberals love robot drone attacks that blow up whole weddings.

01:45:51.000 Right, and so we have imprecise use of force, which I think has caused more harm than good.

01:45:56.000 So yeah, the bottom line, Alex, is we need to step away from what we're doing and step away from the cars like government.

01:46:01.000 Allow the tribes to exist and come together or not come together as they want.

01:46:05.000 And this is a problem we face now, too.

01:46:08.000 One of the reasons the Taliban has been so effective, and this is, again, self-evident, but not something that readily is discernible from just looking at the news, when we came in there in 2002, 2003, and began work, the Taliban were hated because of their rigid form of sharia law. 0.98

01:46:26.000 Well, break, break. 0.97

01:46:27.000 We've got all this time goes by and the very thing that's drawing them to the people of Afghanistan is this very, very rigid form of Sharia law because the central government cannot give them justice.

01:46:39.000 One of the things the central government has completely failed to do is be fair.

01:46:42.000 And as you pointed out, essentially it's become a dictatorship.

01:46:46.000 It has no relevance to the Afghan people.

01:46:47.000 So, when faced with two alternatives, often they will choose the less bad one of the two.

01:46:55.000 And in this case, in some cases, they will go to the Taliban to resolve disputes because the government, even when they bribe the government, they can't get it done. 0.59

01:47:03.000 Plus, it makes the Taliban look like heroes when they're going up against the powerful U.S.

01:47:09.000 Eagle.

01:47:10.000 Right, exactly.

01:47:11.000 So, you've got to consider the fact that, you know, when you look at what's going on, what the real facts are, and what we're accomplishing, you've got to, you know, I still question the policy.

01:47:22.000 And then, you know, in the end, we're talking about withdrawing under a conditions-based relief where, you know, what we're supposed to draw down.

01:47:30.000 But I have yet to be able to find anyone who can tell me or find any specific instances on the internet of what those conditions are going to be next July.

01:47:38.000 So if they don't go with your idea or other people's to end this nightmare, briefly, colonel, we're running out of time and I can talk to you for 10 hours, you're so gracious to be with us.

01:47:48.000 I mean, how do you see this ending or what direction do you see it going in if they don't inject sanity into the process?

01:47:55.000 Well, I think we're talking about the end of the, very similar to the Soviets. 0.68

01:47:58.000 When we, you know, when we leave, begin leaving next summer, the Taliban, as far as I can tell, has not stopped its momentum.

01:48:04.000 And don't forget, everybody's there that we're going to send there now.

01:48:06.000 So it'll probably end with, you know, instead of us driving across the Freedom Bridge, it'll be us, you know, convoying out to Karachi and letting things go back to the chaos they were before. 0.53

01:48:17.000 Because there's just no way we're going to be able to stabilize and maintain the Karzai government unless we're there holding their hand. 0.98

01:48:23.000 And I just don't see that happening next few years.

01:48:25.000 I want to shift gears and get back into the book after the break in our final segment of books.

01:48:28.000 Dark Heart, Operation Dark Heart.

01:48:30.000 We'll give you the website, folks, but it's in bookstores everywhere.

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01:48:34.000 Briefly, have you seen the Fox News piece and AP pieces where they go and talk to Marine Corps colonels on video and that our military gives them fertilizer and helps them grow the opium?

01:48:47.000 And I understand the argument, well, if we don't do this, you know, then they'll hate us even more.

01:48:51.000 But I mean, production's off the charts.

01:48:55.000 And our military controls most of those borders and the conduits to ship out.

01:48:59.000 And you know how many times in Vietnam and right through the military has been caught and contractors have been caught and that's coming out in federal depositions dealing with XE, formerly Blackwater.

01:49:09.000 That, you know, the people running this system, they don't care because it's a black hole to pump money into.

01:49:14.000 They get to launder the drug money.

01:49:16.000 I mean, have you seen the news clips where Geraldo's up there and the Marine Corps colonel is admitting they're helping grow the opium?

01:49:22.000 I'm aware of those.

01:49:24.000 And the thing is, when I was there in 03, I can cite for you a specific experience I've had on this.

01:49:29.000 We knew in 03 that the drug groups were essentially starting to resurge and put things together.

01:49:37.000 And we purposely at that time, Alex, turned a blind eye to it.

01:49:40.000 And the thinking was, the policy thinking was, if we don't allow them to do this, they'll have no income.

01:49:45.000 And the ultimate result has been, obviously, for other elements of the Afghan government and the Taliban to benefit from this illicit drug trade.

01:49:53.000 So, you know, there's really no new policy or no real effort to stem the tide of the drugs for any number of reasons.

01:50:00.000 And I think it's one of those situations that That no one in the government's going to admit to the fact that the, you know, if you look at what's going on, the facts don't meet with the policy.

01:50:11.000 The policy is obviously we're trying to stop it, but the reality is, you know, I think we've done far more to give it lip service than actually take any action one way or another to actually try to stop it.

01:50:21.000 Well, wait, giving them fertilizer and helping guard it, I mean, that's not just taking no action.

01:50:27.000 I mean, the production's off the charts.

01:50:29.000 And again, you've got to ask yourself, what are we trying to do there if we're allowing this to happen?

01:50:35.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it's hidden in plain view.

01:50:39.000 $500 billion opium, 92% of world production.

01:50:41.000 It was down to like 10% with the hardcore nutty Taliban over there before.

01:50:48.000 But we had to go into Afghanistan because the terrorists were over there.

01:50:51.000 Now the opium production is off the charts.

01:50:53.000 You don't think the CIA or the contractors would be doing something with that drug money.

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01:54:04.000 Then we're getting into all the world news and economic news and Bill Clinton campaigning against Rand Paul in Kentucky.

01:54:10.000 It's just incredible, the riots all over Europe, France ground to a halt.

01:54:14.000 But I'm going to fire out a lot of quick questions now here at Colonel Schaefer with his new book out, Dark Heart, Operation Dark Heart.

01:54:21.000 Colonel, first, I admire and respect your courage.

01:54:24.000 I know you've been persecuted for telling the truth.

01:54:27.000 And I appreciate you, you know, assessing what's in plain view and is self-evident about this failed war that we're now going into the 10th year of.

01:54:36.000 Looking at this situation and looking at all the other things that are happening around the world, I mean, just recapping, where do you see this ending?

01:54:49.000 Well, the problem is I think we've been so distracted with the Iraq and Middle East issues relating to Iraq and that sort of thing.

01:54:55.000 I don't think we're actually postured to look at the future very well.

01:54:59.000 There's some global competitors we have to start thinking about.

01:55:02.000 And the Chinese, I think, in particular, are someone who, you know, are going to be our friends as long as we continue to make our payments.

01:55:10.000 We've got some huge debt with them, which, you know, if we can't make the payments, I think they may become very mafia-like.

01:55:17.000 And I think one of the things we've neglected to watch carefully, and this is something I actually studied back in the 90s, the Chinese as a country, as the government of China, have the desire to become essentially the superpower of the Pacific Rim.

01:55:31.000 And we have two allies in particular, besides the Japanese in particular and the South Koreans, there's two other allies in that area.

01:55:38.000 The the Australians in New Zealand defend the New Zealand folks the Kiwi who are concerned about what's going to happen Should the Chinese become much more dominant in that region? 0.99

01:55:47.000 And I think that's one of the things we have to be.

01:55:49.000 Well, they've already, as you know, taken over most of the mining for rare earth minerals that are key to missiles, cell phones.

01:55:55.000 And China has announced they are cutting back on rare earth minerals to the United States.

01:56:00.000 And so that means we won't be able to make stuff here because they've been smart.

01:56:05.000 They've gone out in Africa and Australia and Latin America and South Texas and the Rockies, wherever you can find these.

01:56:11.000 And they've literally created a 94 percent global monopoly over this.

01:56:15.000 They own most our debt.

01:56:16.000 I mean, this Washington has completely destroyed this country's security.

01:56:20.000 And I think we've because of our own negligence have not been studying this as much as we should and trying to understand how to do how to play this as a chess game, not as a checkers games.

01:56:29.000 So I think that's where we have some real problems coming up over the next 10 to 15 years.

01:56:33.000 And I think our kids, God bless them, will have to be dealing with this much more directly than we did.

01:56:38.000 And I think it's sad that we're going to leave this legacy for them to deal with.

01:56:41.000 Well, the elites of this country made deals with the communist Chinese to accelerate and consolidate wealth, and now we're going to pay big time. 0.98

01:56:47.000 What's your take on just the state of the banking situation and the mortgage corruption? 1.00

01:56:54.000 I mean, it's like Washington is just filled with scum. 0.99

01:56:58.000 Right, and I think that's a problem. 0.99

01:57:00.000 We have people who don't have a lot of vision or integrity, and I think that translates badly for the larger country.

01:57:06.000 I think you're about to see some of that over the next few weeks in the elections coming up.

01:57:10.000 I think there's going to be a backlash to a lot of the status quo.

01:57:14.000 And Alex, this is one of those things that, just as a microcosm, I think everybody has to have a certain level of integrity and self-correction inside of them.

01:57:23.000 Anytime I ran an operation, I had a very simple test.

01:57:25.000 I had the Ed Bradley test and the Joe Six-Pack test.

01:57:28.000 I'm not saying that as a pejorative.

01:57:29.000 I just wanted to explain it real quick.

01:57:31.000 Whatever operation I was running, I would always think in my head, if Ed Bradley showed up at my doorstep, would I be able to answer his questions correctly and honestly and still look good on 60 Minutes?

01:57:41.000 That was one of my, believe it or not, that was one of my things.

01:57:45.000 Secondly, would Joe Sixpack, would some individual, male or female, doesn't matter, in, you know, the Midwest, approve of my use of his or her taxpayer dollars?

01:57:55.000 And I think these are very simple, but I think, you know, good rules to go by.

01:58:00.000 So, if I couldn't honestly, you know, say that my actions were related in some way to answering an affirmative one of those two questions, then I figured I shouldn't be doing it.

01:58:11.000 Wow, that's a simple but succinct way of doing it.

01:58:14.000 It makes a lot of sense.

01:58:15.000 We're going to have five more minutes with you on the other side.

01:58:17.000 I want to get a little bit more into the book and some of the other things you can now talk about.

01:58:24.000 So just a few key points on that, some bullet points.

01:58:27.000 And then I want to briefly ask you about cybersecurity and the Stuxnet worm.

01:58:32.000 On the other side, we'll be back in 70 seconds with the third hour.

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02:00:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:19.000 So, Israel has all but admitted that they launched the Stuxnet worm. - Hmm?

02:00:31.000 Now Homeland Security says we've got to have the Pentagon basically take the web over and be able to shut it down to protect it because of Stuxnet.

02:00:39.000 What's your take on this move to try to censor the web that the White House technologies are?

02:00:45.000 That's Holdren.

02:00:47.000 The White House Regulations are, Cass Sunstein and others have called for.

02:00:51.000 Are you concerned about all these different police state developments here?

02:00:55.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:00:56.000 I think the internet has functioned well by the fact that it has been left as minimally touched by the government as possible.

02:01:04.000 I mean, I think some initial things, and this came out, as your listeners probably know, out of the DARPA project relating to sharing information years ago, and then, you know, kind of took on a life of its own.

02:01:14.000 It is an organic organism.

02:01:17.000 And like anything that is organic, it should be allowed to grow and transmute itself as necessary.

02:01:24.000 Any government control or what they're proposing here, the idea of, like you said, we need to be able to shut it down to protect it, I think is but one more control thing that the government should not have.

02:01:35.000 Anyone who studies the net at any given time, you can shut down parts of it if necessary.

02:01:40.000 The idea of taking over the whole thing is just, it's a bit frightening.

02:01:44.000 So there's no reason ever to think about taking over the whole thing because there are so many background services, there's communications going on constantly.

02:01:51.000 And the telecommunications infrastructure of this country now depends on the internet.

02:01:57.000 There's nothing that happens today that is not somehow internet related.

02:02:01.000 So the moment the government determines that they want to shut down everything, they would create literally, Alex, huge chaos in this country by essentially just turning off the spigot.

02:02:11.000 By creating the mechanism to be able to do it, that adds the problem of somebody taking it over and doing it, and it creates technicians and experts that know how to do it, who can sell that knowledge.

02:02:22.000 Right, exactly.

02:02:23.000 So I think we're much better off leaving it diffuse, leaving it as an organic, kind of growing entity that a lot of people have access to, but no one organization owns.

02:02:32.000 It reminds me a while back when the French wanted to actually make sure that their whole internet was only done in the French language, which to me was loony. 0.91

02:02:40.000 The whole idea here is free exchange of information, ideas, and commerce.

02:02:44.000 So, again, I don't think the government, in any form, should be the one trying to determine how to control it.

02:02:50.000 I think there are elements within the Internet the government has the right to control, their own backbone, there's SIPRNet, NIPRNet, there's all these things which run, you know, Yeah, and they lie and say that, you know, that stuff's open to these worms.

02:03:04.000 Well, these worms have to be injected in internally. 0.54

02:03:08.000 We're almost out of time, but clearly the system is corrupt by and large.

02:03:12.000 It's scared of the people waking up, and that's why they're wanting to do this.

02:03:15.000 OperationDarkHeart.com, promise me that in the next few months you'll come back on to get more into...

02:03:21.000 More into Dark Heart, because Colonel, I could talk to you all day.

02:03:24.000 Such a great mind, but in the last minute and a half, anything else people should know about Operation Dark Heart?

02:03:30.000 Well, in the summary of the book, and again, I encourage you to pick it up, is it really does talk about the tipping point in Afghanistan.

02:03:36.000 I think we had a pretty good idea of what we needed to do to basically just let things happen.

02:03:42.000 And then things changed dramatically in 2003, and actually, in the book, There's a confrontation between General Barno, the then Commander of Forces, and of course I was a Major at the time, so you know, obviously I was going to lose that battle, but I tried to point out to him the insurgency's coming and we need to take action to prevent it or limit it.

02:03:58.000 And his answer was, well, you know, I really don't care, is what he basically said, and we're going to do things my way.

02:04:05.000 And that resulted in the course Which we are currently on, relating to nation building, rather than trying to allow the Afghan people to determine their own future.

02:04:13.000 And that's where we argue, I argue, the tipping point came.

02:04:17.000 It reads like a novel, so I think your listeners will enjoy it as well as be educated by it.

02:04:21.000 OperationDarkHeart.com.

02:04:23.000 We have links to it up at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:04:28.000 Colonel, good luck, Godspeed, and I appreciate you having the courage to speak out.

02:04:33.000 Thank you, sir.

02:04:34.000 All right, there he goes.

02:04:35.000 Amazing interview with Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer.

02:04:38.000 Coming up, Bob Chapman on a host of issues.

02:04:41.000 We're not going to just cover the economy.

02:04:42.000 We're going to get into a bunch of other news I haven't even covered yet.

02:04:45.000 And then I'm going to be getting on an airplane today.

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02:07:59.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:08:07.000 We're going to Bob Chapman in a moment, but I wanted to talk about this radio broadcast briefly, and the news websites, the films we make, everything we do.

02:08:19.000 I think it's important for people to realize that it is a godsend that the internet and alternative media is still alive, free, and growing.

02:08:28.000 And I don't want people to, including myself, to take it for granted that any time they could launch a giant cyber attack and use it to shut down the web for a while, and then come in with draconian rules in the aftermath to curtail free speech.

02:08:41.000 This is all being proposed by the White House.

02:08:43.000 This is being proposed by the Pentagon.

02:08:45.000 You just heard Colonel Anthony Schaefer agree with me.

02:08:47.000 I mean, this is happening.

02:08:49.000 If you're not aware of it, we cover it at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.

02:08:53.000 We are constantly attacked by sophisticated denial-of-service attacks.

02:08:58.000 We are constantly under attack.

02:09:02.000 We don't talk about it nine times out of ten.

02:09:03.000 Last night, somebody went into the Genesis GCN Live.com servers.

02:09:08.000 You know, corrupted things, wrote over things.

02:09:12.000 You know, that's a problem we went through over the years, and we've gotten better and better at being able to stop it, so they just do zombie attacks, zombie computer attacks, where they go take over a bunch of machines, university machines in Tokyo, whatever, and attack us.

02:09:25.000 The system is demonizing us at every level.

02:09:28.000 Why?

02:09:29.000 Because we're effective, and we're a platform for people like Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, and Max Keiser, and Gerald Salente, and Bob Chapman, and Anthony Schaeffer, and Ron Paul, and Jesse Ventura, and EPA whistleblowers.

02:09:44.000 I mean, just think of the guests we have here in our attempt to demonstrate and document with true credibility what's happening.

02:09:51.000 I mean, the government knows sodium fluoride attacks children's organs and lowers IQs.

02:09:57.000 The government knows DU is deadly for troops.

02:10:00.000 The government knows that they've allowed mortgage companies to engage in fraud for over a decade.

02:10:05.000 All of this is out in the open, but you got a bunch of people in fancy suits on CNN, Fox, up there talking about their credibility all day.

02:10:12.000 They have no credibility overall.

02:10:14.000 NPR fires Juan Williams for doing a classic cliché statement that everyone says, oh, I get scared when I see a guy in full Muslim dress, but I shouldn't, because when a white guy, you know, carries out a terror attack, we don't blame all white people, or, and they fire him.

02:10:32.000 And then there's all these discussions about, you know, credibility and how credible NPR is. 0.55

02:10:37.000 NPR is a joke!

02:10:38.000 NPR was founded by the Rockefeller Foundation.

02:10:41.000 It then begs for money every month, year-round.

02:10:44.000 They're in their big pledge drive right now.

02:10:46.000 And they raise tens of millions of dollars to sit there and feed you pro-war disinformation that they call liberal.

02:10:54.000 And Juan Williams pointed out he's the only black person on air at NPR, nationally.

02:11:00.000 That's the diversity of NPR.

02:11:02.000 Okay?

02:11:03.000 Now, whatever you think of what Juan Williams says, I don't agree with much of what he says.

02:11:07.000 The point is that it just illustrated to me that, oh, this is now hurting NPR's fundraising because this happened this week and the bad publicity.

02:11:17.000 And somehow the media, the dominant media, which isn't so dominant anymore, they've tried to convince patriot groups, libertarians, conservatives, people that are anti-globalist.

02:11:26.000 That it's bad for us to ask for money, that it's bad for us to build an operation, that it's bad for us to sell a book.

02:11:34.000 Think about that mind game and how crazy that is.

02:11:37.000 You've got tens of billions of federal money in behavior placements, what the government calls it, I call it propaganda placement, with storylines in TV shows, fictions, you know, dramas, sitcoms, cop shows, CSI, all of this, that's programmed.

02:11:53.000 See, the mainstream media is a government outfit, by and large.

02:11:58.000 NPR is totally a foundation outfit, slash government.

02:12:02.000 And so, we could do so much more if people remember to support our sponsors, to buy the books, the videos, the t-shirts, it all gets the word out, but plus it supports the overall operation.

02:12:14.000 If folks will give to the Money Bomb.

02:12:16.000 You know, we've raised $420,000.

02:12:17.000 Sounds like a lot.

02:12:18.000 When you're trying to finish a studio, even with the cheapest gear out there that works, and trying to get the people in place, we could do so much more if we weren't spending all our time trying to raise money.

02:12:18.000 It's not.

02:12:28.000 People are like, well, you have sponsors on, and you, you know, you do this, that, and you're pitching your videos.

02:12:32.000 Yeah, yeah, like, you know, once a show.

02:12:34.000 How are we supposed to do this?

02:12:36.000 This is a real media operation.

02:12:39.000 It takes a lot of money.

02:12:41.000 And I don't have the Rockefellers funding us. 0.99

02:12:43.000 I want to hit that $500,000 number.

02:12:45.000 And I hope a lot of people out there, especially middle class folks, you know, the government comes and raises your taxes and takes your money and then uses it for propaganda against you.

02:12:53.000 This is a vote with your dollars to say, hey, we're going to support the alternative media.

02:12:57.000 And believe me, this show is having a global effect.

02:13:00.000 The films, the broadcasts, the news websites.

02:13:01.000 So if you want to donate, InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com, InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com, or 888-253-3139, 888-253-3139.

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02:13:18.000 We don't need to just survive, which is even a question of that, the way things are going at the current level we're at.

02:13:23.000 We need to expand.

02:13:24.000 I'm not going to sit here on my laurels, folks.

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02:13:26.000 This is life or death situation.

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02:13:46.000 And folks, I want to thank those that have stepped up to the plate.

02:13:50.000 I want to ask others.

02:13:52.000 You just spread the word about the radio show, the free podcast, the free iPhone app.

02:13:57.000 I mean, I try to give everything away for free.

02:13:59.000 And it's those core people that understand what life is like and what it's like to meet a payroll, who do purchase the books, the videos, that do make the donations, who do support the sponsors.

02:14:09.000 You make it all possible.

02:14:10.000 We couldn't do any of this without you.

02:14:12.000 I mean, you know, five years ago, Genesis came this close to disappearing.

02:14:19.000 It was so in the red.

02:14:20.000 I mean, that's the type of situations that go on that we could tell you about years later.

02:14:25.000 We couldn't do any of this without you.

02:14:26.000 We couldn't have 400 plus affiliates, that's all the shows on Genesis, without you.

02:14:30.000 We're having a huge effect.

02:14:31.000 I talk to guests all the time now.

02:14:33.000 They say as they drive across the country, they hear me on the radio all the time.

02:14:36.000 We're on a lot of stations now.

02:14:37.000 We're really breaking through.

02:14:39.000 But we're breaking through right at the point we're going into depression.

02:14:42.000 Right at the point that everybody goes, wow, these people know what they're talking about.

02:14:46.000 Right at the point that that happens, The economy's falling apart, so it's a catch-22, and I understand that.

02:14:52.000 But it's only going to get worse if we don't reverse this system.

02:14:55.000 I want to get into the economy.

02:14:56.000 A bunch of other news with Bob Chapman, who I appreciate holding, theinternationalforecaster.com.

02:15:02.000 But Bob, what's your take on what I just said?

02:15:06.000 Or you always have a great way of crystallizing it, boiling it down concisely, but, I mean, what's your view on what I just said?

02:15:12.000 Well, first of all, listening to the Colonel and yourself earlier, Uh, it just goes to show that the things that we thought were going on are going on.

02:15:27.000 And, uh, we're in danger of losing the Internet at any given time.

02:15:31.000 Uh, with that said, we have to get more powerful.

02:15:36.000 And yes, we know there's a depression going on, and it's gonna get worse.

02:15:41.000 But we need you.

02:15:43.000 We need people throughout the entire world to be able to understand What's going on?

02:15:49.000 And Alex, you know that, but nobody knows it better than I because we have subscribers from everywhere.

02:15:57.000 And they say we've got the same problems.

02:16:01.000 We get the same kind of people behind the scenes running our country.

02:16:05.000 And there's lots of countries that people tell me that they're having those problems.

02:16:09.000 So we've got to do what we've got to do.

02:16:13.000 And Alex and Genesis as well.

02:16:17.000 Needs funds.

02:16:19.000 And the generation of profits from Genesis goes into all these programs, operating 24-7, reaching all over the world.

02:16:33.000 And so doing business, not only with Alex and the things he has for you, but also Genesis itself.

02:16:41.000 Well, I mean, Bob, think about, in the spectrum of resistance, Genesis, Ron Paul, the group of guests we have on, the experts, represents the most powerful constellation of resistance against the globalists.

02:17:01.000 We're it, folks, and think of the effects we've already had.

02:17:04.000 Listeners, just spreading the word about the radio show, the films, the websites, just spreading the word about the information we're covering, the spectrum of powerful minds we bring together, just that is already having a giant effect.

02:17:20.000 Realize the immediacy And the seriousness of the time frame we're in on getting the word out.

02:17:28.000 That's the most important thing.

02:17:29.000 People spreading the word.

02:17:31.000 That's why we're having a bigger and bigger effect.

02:17:33.000 That's why we're under attack.

02:17:34.000 And as Bob said, we need to be flush with cash, not hurting for cash.

02:17:39.000 We need to be powerful.

02:17:40.000 We're doing something dangerous, okay?

02:17:43.000 We're going head up against the criminals, calling them out, and not mincing words.

02:17:47.000 I mean, that's a powerful thing, isn't it, Bob?

02:17:50.000 It certainly is.

02:17:51.000 And it's probably the basis to my history on the radio.

02:17:56.000 And I just felt that when I was a little boy, I said to myself, gee, if you tell a lie, you have to tell about 20 of them to cover it.

02:18:05.000 So it's not worth it.

02:18:06.000 So you tell people the truth all the time.

02:18:08.000 And that's what this is really all about.

02:18:10.000 Well, going back 40 plus years ago when you started fighting the globalists, you're one of the only living, maybe a half dozen people, icons out there.

02:18:17.000 I mean, A, could you ever have imagined that the tyranny would actually go this far?

02:18:22.000 And B, could you ever imagine, from the meager beginnings, how many people we now reach?

02:18:28.000 Well, first of all, we were running around with pamphlets.

02:18:32.000 The only one who made anything in the communications business beyond that was Anthony Hilda with his records and then his tapes.

02:18:40.000 And so we had a rough road.

02:18:43.000 Fastest pamphlet in the West, I used to say.

02:18:46.000 And of course, Gary and Alan and G. Edward Griffin were all writing books.

02:18:55.000 And I was too busy to do that.

02:18:57.000 But today it's totally different.

02:19:00.000 And it's totally different in as much as we're reaching just millions and millions of people every day.

02:19:06.000 We've got to keep on doing it.

02:19:08.000 It's just like other newsletter writers say to me, well, how do you have time and why do you bother to answer people's questions personally?

02:19:18.000 And my answer is, look, this is why I'm here.

02:19:21.000 What else would I do at 75 years old?

02:19:24.000 And so I help people.

02:19:25.000 And that's part of what I do.

02:19:27.000 And this is what Alex is doing.

02:19:29.000 And this is what Genesis is doing for all of us.

02:19:32.000 So you gotta be there for us.

02:19:35.000 Well, I mean, my only point is we all need to have a gut check and realize where we all stand in this world.

02:19:42.000 And I don't like the fact that I'm one of the most preeminent people in the world fighting the globalists.

02:19:47.000 I mean, it's not fun, but it's something that's got to be done.

02:19:50.000 I just want people to really consciously realize why we're under so much sustained attack.

02:19:55.000 We'll be right back with Bob Chapman on The Economy.

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02:24:20.000 Bob, I want to get into the economy, but I say this every day now because it's just constantly hitting me.

02:24:25.000 It's one thing to intellectually coldly know the Newell-Euler's plans, to see them carrying it out.

02:24:30.000 It's another thing to be this deep into it and to see Time Magazine saying, will the Federal Reserve cause civil war?

02:24:36.000 To see the Pentagon admitting they're preparing to make war against the American people.

02:24:40.000 To see them federalizing with the fusion centers.

02:24:43.000 To see the CIA operating openly and foreign intelligence agencies spying on members of legislatures in Pennsylvania.

02:24:50.000 To really see it all manifesting now and to know we really were right.

02:24:56.000 In fact, we were more than right.

02:24:57.000 It was worse than what we had thought.

02:25:00.000 It's just, it really, it makes me have gut checks just constantly about the amazing, I hoped always in the back of my mind, even though I had all the documents, I knew I was right, that I was wrong.

02:25:12.000 I mean, you know that feeling.

02:25:13.000 I mean, don't you ever just want to be wrong?

02:25:15.000 Don't you ever want the government to turn out to have some good in it?

02:25:18.000 Don't you ever wish it wasn't as bad, but it always turns out to be worse?

02:25:21.000 Do you see what I'm saying, Bob?

02:25:23.000 Absolutely.

02:25:24.000 And you always think about, well, it is bad, but maybe we can turn the corner.

02:25:29.000 And that's where we're headed right now.

02:25:31.000 And we know what we said was correct.

02:25:36.000 Just as you just said.

02:25:37.000 And so we have to go on the assumption of all of the ideas for the future that we base upon the knowledge that we have and the history that we've seen that we're on the right track and all the listeners have to realize that and they have to spread the word about the program and we have to keep on digging deeper and deeper and deeper into all of these episodes that come out They pop up everywhere.

02:26:02.000 And one of the good things about these episodes happening is that it just shows you over and over again how corrupt the system really is.

02:26:13.000 It's not because we say it is.

02:26:15.000 It's because it really is.

02:26:17.000 I mean, just look at what happened in the last couple of weeks in regards to mortgage gate or foreclosure gate.

02:26:26.000 It's absolutely dreadful.

02:26:28.000 But we have discussed this.

02:26:30.000 Over the last three years on this program, we didn't get into the intimate details of the foreclosure process, but we said there was something wrong, and particularly in the sale of the syndicated bonds that contained those mortgages, which were a nightmare!

02:26:48.000 And you know, I cannot understand why, especially in Europe, that took down 60% of that paper, or those bonds as they're called, That they never made a complaint.

02:27:02.000 Didn't that seem strange to you, Alex?

02:27:04.000 Yeah, they're sold the same mortgages over and over again.

02:27:07.000 It's pure fraud.

02:27:08.000 It's certified as AAA rated.

02:27:10.000 And there's no complaining!

02:27:13.000 Unbelievable.

02:27:14.000 And they're really, at the beginning, they were triple B paper, which is like a 4 instead of a 10.

02:27:19.000 And now we have just had, that they admit to, the Federal Reserve $1.7 trillion In what is called toxic waste, which is those mortgages, MBS, CDO's and ABS.

02:27:34.000 And what they've done is purchased these things and they won't tell us how much they paid for them from the banks to clear them off their books.

02:27:47.000 And my guess is 80 cents on the dollar.

02:27:49.000 And now they want to sell them back to them for 20 cents on the dollar.

02:27:54.000 And the loss in between Goes to all of us!

02:27:58.000 We get to pay for it to bail out the banks again.

02:28:02.000 And it's things like this that, within that structure, of the, we'll call it the real estate bubble fiasco, there's so many facets to this thing.

02:28:14.000 And, you know, we saw about two months ago, Goldman Sachs, which stole about $5 billion, really wanted to Be able to be found wanting, but neither admitting or denying, and they paid $500 million penalty.

02:28:38.000 Now, that absolves them of everything.

02:28:41.000 But they get to keep the other $4.5 billion.

02:28:46.000 This is the way this system works.

02:28:48.000 I saw this Milken character on television this morning.

02:28:54.000 Here's the man.

02:28:55.000 Who stole three billion dollars.

02:28:58.000 And he gave one billion to the government.

02:29:02.000 And he got to go to jail for about a year, a year and a half.

02:29:06.000 And he's got two billion dollars.

02:29:08.000 And now he's a celebrity because he got a lot of money and he's got a foundation. 0.78

02:29:14.000 This absolution for being a crook.

02:29:19.000 I mean, doesn't anybody out there get it? 0.99

02:29:22.000 These people are criminals.

02:29:27.000 Amazing, Bob Chapman. 0.70

02:29:28.000 I want to get more into where the economy's going and the quantitative easing announcements by the Fed.

02:29:33.000 This big announcement coming up in early November that the Fed is reportedly going to make dealing with dollar devaluation.

02:29:39.000 We're going to get into Rand Paul under attack and many others.

02:29:42.000 Folks, you either stand with the patriots or you stand with the globalists.

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02:32:57.000 Live from Austin, Texas, Texas, broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones.

02:33:22.000 Bye. you We're going to get more into the economy and a bunch of other news with Bob Chapman.

02:33:27.000 I'm researching a story that I saw being discussed a few days ago in Australia.

02:33:33.000 The headline is, Trades Hall President Kevin Bracken stands by his 9-1-1 conspiracy.

02:33:40.000 Very prominent and powerful head of the organization that's causing debates in the Parliament Uh, dealing with this.

02:33:49.000 And he said, look, I'm not backing off my statement that it's an inside job.

02:33:53.000 I'm not a coward like the rest of you.

02:33:55.000 More and more people worldwide are coming out and saying inside job and they don't care what people say to them.

02:34:01.000 And it, and, and, and, uh, the poll in the newspaper showed that 67% believe it's an inside job.

02:34:12.000 I mean, that has got to anger the system over there.

02:34:17.000 So I'm printing some more articles on this, and we're going to be talking about it more.

02:34:22.000 But Bob, continuing with the economy and what quantitative easing means, this announcement by the Fed that inflation is our friend to quote, pay down our debt.

02:34:31.000 Yeah, like Weimar Republic or Mexico.

02:34:35.000 Well, I think it's probably propelling itself more toward A Weimar type of situation.

02:34:44.000 If you remember on this program three months ago I said that they were going to go to a QE2 and I was the head of the pack again and I was right. 0.99

02:34:55.000 And what I didn't know at the time was about three weeks prior to my saying that that the Fed had already gone into the bond markets again And into the what they call a repo market.

02:35:11.000 And they were buying and selling bonds.

02:35:16.000 In that process, they're injecting money into the economy.

02:35:21.000 And this has grown since then over the past three months.

02:35:26.000 So I'm telling you this because QE2 began three months ago.

02:35:34.000 They just didn't take the time to tell you about it.

02:35:37.000 And now you have this official announcement.

02:35:39.000 Yes, this terrible deflation is around again.

02:35:45.000 Same story we had three years ago.

02:35:48.000 And we've got to jack this thing up.

02:35:51.000 And that's part of their excuse for doing so.

02:35:54.000 And we're going to have some pretty bad inflation.

02:35:59.000 And I'll tell you why.

02:36:00.000 Here too far, other governments have allowed The investment of dollars into their country and they haven't said too much about it.

02:36:11.000 One of the reasons why is they were all rigging their currencies and they've been doing it since the Second World War.

02:36:17.000 And in the process of doing that, what they do, we'll take Brazil as an example, they'll print their currency and then they take the currency, just like the Chinese do, and they go and they buy dollars and that drives the value of their currency down. 0.96

02:36:34.000 At the same time, They take the money and they buy U.S.

02:36:39.000 Treasuries.

02:36:40.000 Well, the U.S.

02:36:41.000 never said much about it because what that does is it keeps inflation down in the United States because the goods coming into the country are cheaper and it also funds the debt.

02:36:55.000 So they didn't want to hear about it.

02:36:58.000 Now they've got a problem where the same characters in these different countries are not.

02:37:05.000 Aggressively funding the debt anymore, and they have started to put up barriers against money coming into their countries in the form of dollars.

02:37:15.000 And that means if countries are not going to invite dollar-based investors into their country to buy bonds or buildings or companies or whatever, then that inflation That had previously been laid off on all those countries out there is going to back up into the United States.

02:37:39.000 So we're going to have more inflation than we had before.

02:37:43.000 And that's one of the arguments at this G20 meeting.

02:37:46.000 And on top of that, at the G20 meeting, I'm sure they're telling Mr. Geithner, you people got to be crazy.

02:37:55.000 You keep on pumping more and more money in, and it doesn't solve the problem.

02:37:59.000 And you expect us to be able To not compete with each other and to stop depreciating our currencies to accommodate you when we've accommodated you for years.

02:38:13.000 No, we're not going to do that anymore.

02:38:15.000 So I don't see much coming out of that meeting because coming back to the Fed and what they're doing in the economy with QE2 and the announcement coming up after the election, of course, to be accompanied by foreclosuregate, which they've been hiding in the media.

02:38:33.000 This is supposed to be a revelation.

02:38:36.000 Anybody who is involved in money and finance and economics knows what's going on, and they've seen it already.

02:38:44.000 And so this is really just for public consumption, officially to let the world know that we're going to save America, the Federal Reserve is, by pumping out more money out of thin air.

02:38:56.000 Yeah, monetizing the debt.

02:38:59.000 This is basic economics.

02:39:01.000 I mean, we know what this is going to do.

02:39:03.000 It's going to devalue people's savings.

02:39:05.000 It's going to make the cost go up.

02:39:06.000 At the same time, they're freezing for the next two years the Social Security cost of living increase, the COLA.

02:39:13.000 The reports spill out every day of every locale in the nation jacking up taxes.

02:39:18.000 And people just don't have the money.

02:39:19.000 And driving to work every day now, it's got to be every mile.

02:39:24.000 I see cops pulling people over, giving them tickets, and they say, well, we're just enforcing the law.

02:39:29.000 No, they're out there revenue generating.

02:39:31.000 You can't squeeze blood out of a stone.

02:39:35.000 And over 10% of Texas has arrest warrants out for us.

02:39:40.000 And then I was listening to local radio admit, because they've had some police chiefs complaining, that they're not allowed to arrest illegal aliens for drunk driving or not having IDs.

02:39:49.000 And businesses are basically being allowed to have their drivers be illegal aliens without driver's license and cops are told let them go.

02:39:57.000 The bankers are above the law, the police more and more above the law, the illegal aliens, because they're allied with this whole globalist system to drive down the wages, they're above the law, and none of it washes anymore. 0.99

02:40:09.000 And separately, though, I played a Senate candidate on C-SPAN from West Virginia, an engineer, coming out and laying out how they blew up the World Trade Center towers.

02:40:19.000 And I've got a Herald Sun poll.

02:40:21.000 67% believe inside job.

02:40:24.000 Trades Hall President Kevin Bracken stands by his 9-1-1 conspiracy.

02:40:28.000 And I love what he said.

02:40:29.000 He was on ABC News.

02:40:30.000 That's Australian Broadcasting Company, not U.S.

02:40:35.000 Trades Hall President.

02:40:36.000 He is the Victorian Secretary of Maritime Union of Australia.

02:40:42.000 Very powerful position in the Labour Party.

02:40:47.000 And, uh, he says that most of his members agree with him.

02:40:51.000 Uh, and he talks about polls showing 50% in Australia believe inside job.

02:40:54.000 Well, they're a lot higher than that.

02:40:55.000 I mean, I've got an Angus and Reed of 84% New York Times 19, uh, 2006, excuse me.

02:41:01.000 But it says Mr. Bracken sparked outrage yesterday when he told John Fain's ABC talkback program that attacks were not the result of terrorist activity.

02:41:10.000 He said the story was a conspiracy that didn't stand up to scientific scrutiny.

02:41:14.000 And he's an engineer.

02:41:16.000 This morning, Mr. Bracken phoned in to Fain's program again for a right of reply.

02:41:21.000 He said he wasn't phoning as the president of the Trades Hall Council or the Secretary of Melbourne's Union of Australia.

02:41:28.000 Mr. Bracken stood by his comments and said he had the support of 50% of the community.

02:41:32.000 He also attacked the talk show host that was attacking him, claiming he was ridiculed on yesterday's program. 0.88

02:41:37.000 Unfortunately, cowards like yourself, this is a quote, have set the political agenda in this country for too long, said Kevin Bracken. 0.99

02:41:45.000 I won't be coward down to bullies like yourself. 0.99

02:41:49.000 And he went on, and we'll scroll down and show you a photo of this hero.

02:41:54.000 But there's more and more people, professionals, military people, Sybil Edmonds, working with the FBI and NSA.

02:42:03.000 I mean, you heard Anthony Shaver if you were listening last hour, folks.

02:42:07.000 I talked about the government staging events.

02:42:09.000 I talked about how al-Awlaki, the supposed head al-Qaeda commander, meeting with the secretary of the army two months after 9-11 in the Pentagon.

02:42:21.000 And what could Shaver say?

02:42:23.000 He said, no, it is what it is.

02:42:25.000 People just look at it and make your decision.

02:42:27.000 Folks, we've got criminals running the country that blew up those buildings.

02:42:31.000 Do you understand the magnitude of this?

02:42:34.000 If it's uncomfortable to come out and say it, sorry, that's just the way it is.

02:42:37.000 Facts are facts are facts.

02:42:39.000 And I saw the media hyping we were going to be hit by terrorists, and when we get hit by terrorists, give all your rights up.

02:42:45.000 I saw that in the months leading up to 9-11, and I could see what they were doing to the point of being able to say they're going to blow up the World Trade Center and blame it on their CIA asset bin Laden!

02:42:53.000 Just like a Lockheed CIA!

02:42:55.000 I mean, I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, the guy who the media and the Pentagon tell us is the number one al-Qaeda operative in the world, They are telling us, it's now confirmed, two months after 9-11, when he's on the news as one of the masterminds, he was number three at the time, now he's number one, Anwar al-Awlaki, headline, Al-Qaeda leader dined at Pentagon, just months after 9-11, in a closed door meeting with the top brass and the Secretary of the Army.

02:43:21.000 And then he runs the underwear bombing.

02:43:23.000 He runs the Times Square bombing.

02:43:25.000 He runs Major Hassan attack at Fort Hood. 0.62

02:43:27.000 He runs it all!

02:43:28.000 Okay, and then a SWAT is MI6.

02:43:31.000 That's mainstream news.

02:43:33.000 Rashoon, a SWAT for the 7-7.

02:43:35.000 I mean, Bob, it's out in the open, okay?

02:43:39.000 None of us are safe, okay?

02:43:43.000 If you cower to this, they win.

02:43:45.000 Okay?

02:43:47.000 Ask your gut, not even looking at the evidence.

02:43:49.000 Are you afraid of men with turbans?

02:43:51.000 Or are you afraid of a government that puts in naked body scanners and now going in courthouses everywhere and lies to you and says they're not saving the images and it turns out they are? 0.95

02:44:00.000 I mean, this is a pack of murdering criminals.

02:44:02.000 Your life means nothing to them and the naïveté that is going on in this country and the world is allowing this evil to grow To proportions never before seen.

02:44:13.000 It's over.

02:44:14.000 The thumb-sucking denial is over.

02:44:16.000 You think I like risking my life? 0.91

02:44:17.000 You think I like death threats?

02:44:19.000 You think I like people physically attacking me?

02:44:20.000 You think I like hack attacks?

02:44:22.000 You think I like every major globalist think tank calling me enemy number one?

02:44:25.000 You think this is fun?

02:44:27.000 You think I like it?

02:44:28.000 I wish men with turbines did what they did and not our own government.

02:44:32.000 That's a lot less scary.

02:44:33.000 I wish none of it ever happened.

02:44:35.000 Okay?

02:44:36.000 But living in denial isn't going to change it.

02:44:39.000 I'm sorry I'm ranting, Bob.

02:44:40.000 I'm just sick of the cowardice. 0.99

02:44:42.000 And I love this guy saying, I'm not a coward, you're a coward, and it's time for cowards to not set the agenda. 0.99

02:44:48.000 Bob Chapman. 0.98

02:44:51.000 I hear you, and you're absolutely correct.

02:44:54.000 Absolutely correct.

02:44:56.000 And we're not going to take it anymore.

02:44:58.000 And you're seeing it in the streets all over Europe, particularly now for the last two weeks in Paris.

02:45:04.000 And the Senate has passed the change in the laws concerning retirement.

02:45:13.000 And that's going to lead to some real problems in France.

02:45:17.000 And I think this thing could really blow up in their faces.

02:45:22.000 And you know, the bottom line here is, I speak French.

02:45:26.000 And what they're ranting in the streets is, the bankers get away with everything and they want us to pay for it.

02:45:35.000 By the way, something just hit me here.

02:45:38.000 Again, and this will cost thousands of dollars.

02:45:40.000 Somebody with a sophisticated attack hacked the machines at Genesis last night.

02:45:44.000 We had our stuff go down too.

02:45:45.000 We're still analyzing it last night.

02:45:47.000 They hacked it.

02:45:48.000 They had destroyed everything.

02:45:49.000 I don't even know if GCNlive.com is back up right now.

02:45:55.000 The Israelis tacitly admit they launched the Stuxnet worm. 0.99

02:45:59.000 Now our media, as I said they would, is saying we've got to give up our rights on the internet, let the Pentagon take the web over, or this worm will get us.

02:46:07.000 In plain view, the Western governments, because guaranteed the U.S.

02:46:11.000 governments involved, the experts have looked at it, not just Israel.

02:46:14.000 They're all involved in it.

02:46:16.000 And now Obama tells Pentagon to attack cyber threats on American soil.

02:46:19.000 Who's the commander-in-chief?

02:46:20.000 Obama.

02:46:21.000 Now, our stuff went down last night.

02:46:23.000 We're still analyzing it, but it looks suspicious.

02:46:26.000 They attacked the streams.

02:46:28.000 Genesis, clear attack.

02:46:29.000 They break in, they get through the codes, they savage the machine so that it would take longer to get it back up with backups.

02:46:36.000 And here's the Wall Street Journal.

02:46:37.000 Cyber attack strikes, freedom works.

02:46:40.000 A mysterious cyber attack apparently struck the computer servers of the pro-Tea Party group FreedomWorks.

02:46:45.000 You know what?

02:46:47.000 They admit what a year ago, Curtain Emerald Stories, about the Pentagon testing to counter cyber attacks by launching attacks.

02:46:53.000 Cass Sunstein has called for them cyber attacking patriots.

02:46:56.000 And now we learn that Genesis got hit, FreedomWorks got hit, one of the big Tea Party groups, and it looks like we got hit.

02:47:04.000 Bob, look at this, Wall Street Journal.

02:47:06.000 They just brought this into me.

02:47:08.000 You know what?

02:47:08.000 I think the White House hit Genesis computers last night.

02:47:12.000 Well, I don't think there's any doubt that they would.

02:47:15.000 And they got to shut us out.

02:47:17.000 And they're trying to put us out of business.

02:47:18.000 It's not going to work.

02:47:20.000 It's going to be, again, very disjointing.

02:47:25.000 And it's going to cost money.

02:47:27.000 Well, they're getting desperate.

02:47:28.000 You're going to have to out there.

02:47:29.000 You're going to have to help them pay for it.

02:47:32.000 Otherwise, you're not going to get the real news.

02:47:35.000 Well, you know what scares me?

02:47:37.000 My gut tells me this is a... My gut told me a George Soros-affiliated deal.

02:47:43.000 But now you've got FreedomWorks and Glenn Beck getting hit.

02:47:50.000 And the group is raising masses of money right now for Patriot candidates.

02:47:55.000 The group estimates it lost $800,000 in potential donations as it struggled to bring its site back online.

02:48:03.000 And it was a sophisticated attack.

02:48:06.000 And fundraising money bomb was set.

02:48:09.000 See, we were attacked during a money bomb and the hackers went to public hack sites and YouTube and posted the code to attack us.

02:48:17.000 Bob, I mean, so you notice they're attacking during money bombs.

02:48:21.000 They are scared and they want to cut our money off.

02:48:24.000 Here it is.

02:48:25.000 Wall Street Journal right here, Bob.

02:48:28.000 Well, let's have another money bomb. 0.66

02:48:30.000 If we miss money and the other groups miss money, tell them to do it over again and keep on doing it.

02:48:36.000 Until we get enough to do what we have to do.

02:48:38.000 Well, they're desperate.

02:48:39.000 They've now... And we get persistence too, you know.

02:48:41.000 Exactly.

02:48:42.000 They've now dispatched, it's here in my stack, Bill Clinton.

02:48:45.000 It's a Prison Planet article.

02:48:46.000 Here it is.

02:48:47.000 Establishment dispatches Clinton to campaign against Rand Paul.

02:48:49.000 They said he wasn't a doctor.

02:48:51.000 They said he kidnapped a woman, made her do drugs.

02:48:52.000 All of it did not be true.

02:48:54.000 They said he was against the Civil Rights Act.

02:48:55.000 Not true.

02:48:55.000 Now they're claiming that a newsletter, not even affiliated with him, made a mild joke about black people, and Bill Clinton is running around saying he's a racist.

02:49:04.000 Oh, really? 0.99

02:49:04.000 Is he the type of racist that shot black people up with syphilis? 0.99

02:49:07.000 See, the liberals never care about the real stuff they do. 1.00

02:49:10.000 Because they're the real racist, cloaked in this anti-racist package.

02:49:14.000 And then now, they are so desperate, they are pulling out all the stops against Rand.

02:49:18.000 They're scared, folks.

02:49:20.000 Your comments, Bob Chapman.

02:49:23.000 Well, I just came across a piece, and it came out today, and you probably saw it.

02:49:29.000 While Bill Clinton was president, he lost the code For arming nuclear weapons.

02:49:38.000 They couldn't find it.

02:49:39.000 I bet he did.

02:49:41.000 I mean, he's probably left it in somebody's bedroom.

02:49:44.000 But the point is, he lost it.

02:49:47.000 I mean, that's incredible.

02:49:49.000 I mean, supposing our enemies decided, ah, we're going to have an attack and Bill's looking under the covers to see where the instructions are.

02:49:58.000 Well, this is the kind of people they are.

02:50:02.000 Dreadful.

02:50:04.000 And sure, you're going to get more of that attack dog kind of stuff.

02:50:09.000 And it goes on in both sides.

02:50:11.000 We'll win anyway.

02:50:14.000 In this election, we're going to kick a lot of people out of office. 0.93

02:50:17.000 We being the American people.

02:50:19.000 And we're going to get back on the trail of saving our country with the help of talk radio and the internet.

02:50:27.000 And your support, of course.

02:50:29.000 I'll just add to that as we come back with the final segment and hit some other news.

02:50:33.000 Cass Sunstein admits they pose as conspiracy theorists on the web to get us infighting.

02:50:37.000 And let's say Alex Jones is the worst guy in the world, which I'm not.

02:50:40.000 Why is so much time spent by all these sites and talk show hosts attacking yours truly?

02:50:45.000 A lot of them are on the globalist payroll.

02:50:47.000 Even if I was a bad guy, why would all the time be spent, literally about half the time, attacking me?

02:50:52.000 Because we're real and we're effective.

02:50:54.000 It shows you who the bad guys are, folks.

02:50:58.000 It's amazing.

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02:54:07.000 First Beach is sold out on Sunday.

02:54:09.000 The Monday night one has about 50 tickets left, I was just told.

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02:54:20.000 I want to be clear.

02:54:21.000 Ted Anderson called me at 8 a.m.

02:54:22.000 this morning.

02:54:23.000 He's already out in California.

02:54:25.000 And he said, yeah, I've been up a lot tonight.

02:54:27.000 They came in, they attacked the servers, they went in and butchered it.

02:54:30.000 I came in, had all my news, didn't even notice the Wall Street Journal, or this was already big news today, that the main Tea Party website got blown away during their money bomb.

02:54:40.000 Uh, and they have a criminal investigation going on.

02:54:42.000 I gotta get Watson on this to write an article that, uh, anti-globalist groups, you can say what you want about the Tea Party Express, but they, they were hit.

02:54:49.000 And, uh, it looks like we probably got hit last night, but we've just been trying to fix it, not analyze how, uh, how it was done.

02:54:57.000 But there's no doubt they went, got into our, the GenesisGCNLive.com servers and wrecked it.

02:55:03.000 The FreedomWorks website is still down, according to this article.

02:55:07.000 I don't know if it's been updated as they try to migrate to a new server.

02:55:11.000 Same thing, they went in and wrecked the server.

02:55:13.000 They didn't just do a denial of service, they got in and wrecked the server.

02:55:16.000 So this is big news.

02:55:17.000 I mean, this is what we're talking about here today.

02:55:19.000 I mean, we're under attack and, you know, it's manly to not talk about it, but it's not even that.

02:55:23.000 I'm always so busy, I don't get into all the attacks we go through.

02:55:28.000 But Bob, I mean, this shows that the system is scared right now.

02:55:32.000 They sure are, and it shows how effective we are.

02:55:36.000 And, you know, people, you've got to understand the work that goes into what we do.

02:55:44.000 Alex works 16, 15 hours a day, just like I do.

02:55:50.000 Yesterday, I did nine programs, an hour each.

02:55:55.000 I mean, even that's a record.

02:55:57.000 But we've got to keep on doing it, because we've got to get people to understand What we're up against, and who's doing what to us, and why they're doing it.

02:56:08.000 Alex is absolutely correct.

02:56:09.000 We can't let this get us down.

02:56:11.000 We've got to have another Moneybomb.

02:56:12.000 That's all.

02:56:13.000 Well, ours went off okay, though we were attacked during it.

02:56:16.000 We've been attacked so much we were able to withstand it.

02:56:19.000 But we do need to reach our goal at InfoWarsMoneybomb.com.

02:56:24.000 Look, there's no doubt Obama is saying to the Pentagon, attack cyber threats domestically in the U.S.

02:56:31.000 We know that's the cover for attacks.

02:56:32.000 I think I'm going to call Watson and say, did Obama administration or did Democrats, you know, launch cyber attacks against, you know, opposition fundraising?

02:56:41.000 And because this is the key time.

02:56:43.000 These races are so close, and not all these Republican or Democratic candidates that are anti-establishment are good, but a lot of them, like Rand Paul and others are, and the system is scared because they're losing the House, maybe the Senate, and there's going to be all these new voices there of liberty, and this is our wedge going into the next election in 2012, 2011, to really take the country back Just like the state's rights movement, that's why they staged Oklahoma City, was to blame the state's rights movement that was burgeoning then.

02:57:10.000 It's not going to work this time, though.

02:57:12.000 Fool me once, shame on me.

02:57:14.000 Shame on you, fool me twice, shame on... I sound like George Bush, can't get it right.

02:57:18.000 Fool me, fool me, fool me, won't get fooled again.

02:57:21.000 Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

02:57:24.000 The point is, is that we're not getting fooled again.

02:57:27.000 And now I've done a George Bush imitation without trying it, Bob.

02:57:32.000 It sounded pretty good.

02:57:33.000 And that's scary.

02:57:35.000 We don't want that.

02:57:39.000 We get rid of him and we don't want to hear about him.

02:57:41.000 Exactly.

02:57:42.000 He's been put out to pasture in Dallas.

02:57:44.000 Well, Bob, we're out of time.

02:57:47.000 God willing, I'll say our prayers for us, folks, but I'll see you next Friday back here with us at TheInternationalForecaster.com.

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02:58:01.000 Bob, I will see you next week, my friend.

02:58:02.000 You got it, and have a great trip, and thank you all for listening.

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02:58:06.000 Bob, I will see you next week, my friend.

02:58:08.000 You got it, and have a great trip, and thank you all for listening.

02:58:12.000 We love you.

02:58:13.000 Thank you.

02:58:15.000 I'll...

02:58:16.000 Listen, I'm excited that we sold out, or have almost sold out, the two shows with, what is it, 1,500, 1,600 seats, Friday and... Well, it is Friday.

02:58:26.000 I'm flying out there today.

02:58:28.000 That's Sunday and Monday.

02:58:29.000 I got so much going on in my head right now, folks, I can't even hardly talk.

02:58:33.000 Great job to the crew.

02:58:33.000 Retransmission starts now with Colonel Anthony Schaefer, InfoWars.com.

02:58:37.000 God bless you all.

02:58:38.000 See you in California.

02:58:40.000 Thank you for listening to GCN.

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02:58:45.000 Alex told you the government announced recently that the recession is over.

02:58:53.000 It ended on June of 2009.

Alex Jones Show - October 22, 2010

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