Osama bin Laden is dead. Big Brother and the media cover up the truth. Alex Jones breaks it all down. Big brother and the mainstream media cover it all up. Big government is a scammer and a crook.
00:00:37.000Or, I'm proud to be an American, or at least I know I'm free to have the TSA stick their hands down my pants and the Foreign Private Federal Reserve steal every dime I've got.
00:01:16.000The globalists have created Al Qaeda on record.
00:01:19.000They have launched Al Qaeda attacks all over the world, or carried out attacks and blamed it on their assets.
00:01:26.000And now, because Obama's approval rating is plunging, the dollar is plunging, the support for the wars is flagging, they have rolled literally out of the deep freeze.
00:01:37.000Osama bin Laden, who they claim they killed nine other times, but this is the big announcement.
00:01:44.000They have rolled him out of the deep freeze and claim that they killed him in the middle of a populated area.
00:02:06.000So, if you haven't seen Sling Blade, folks, you don't get it.
00:02:11.000It has been completely cartoonish, listening to talk radio, even good old boys calling in going, I never liked Obama, but I'm walking a little taller, a little brighter today.
00:05:39.000And the Congress is saying, "Who do we make the checkout to?" Today seems like nobody does care.
00:05:44.000And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
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00:10:54.000I'm not born to be conned and an idiot for the criminal elements that have taken our country over.
00:11:00.000Now, instead of me giving you my view and telling you what I think, May 2nd, 2011, you notice he was killed on the same day Hitler died, May Day.
00:11:14.000You know, May Day isn't just a communist holiday.
00:11:18.000The Illuminati was founded in 1776 in Ingolstadt University on May Day.
00:11:22.000If you actually go to the encyclopedia, May Day is an ancient, high holy day of the Druids.
00:11:30.000You notice that on the same day that Hitler married Eva Braun in the bunker, three days before he committed suicide, is the day that the Royals got married.
00:11:42.000Oh, they're all into this stuff big time.
00:11:44.000And I remember telling the crew Sunday, on the Sunday show last time, I said, something big is going to happen today.
00:12:11.000How about we see what Alex Jones said not a year ago, not five years ago, nine years ago and a month.
00:12:19.000The full transcripts, we're digging around through the MP3s, we're going to find them, are all up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:12:28.000I brought you the adjunct of Henry Kissinger when he was Secretary of State, Stephen R. Pachinik, P-I-E-C-Z-E-N-I-K. P-I-E-C-Z-E-N-I-K.
00:12:50.000In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Farm Relations member, high level, Stephen R. Pachinik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker, top kingmakers, told the Alex Jones show that bin Laden had already been dead for months.
00:13:08.000you He went on to say, and you can read the whole transcript, that Chenek would be in a position to know such information, having worked directly with Bin Laden when the U.S.
00:13:17.000was funding and arming the terror leader in an attempt to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan in the late 70s and early 80s.
00:13:27.000A documented historical fact that talking heads and the corporate media are actually denying today in light of developments.
00:13:34.000I worked with Osama Bin Laden in 78-81, Pachinik told Jones, adding that he later turned terrorist hunter during subsequent administrations.
00:13:41.000I found out through my sources that he had kidney disease.
00:13:45.000By the way, after he reported all this, CBS News did.
00:13:50.000About him being at the American hospital.
00:13:53.000I found out through my sources he had kidney disease, and as a physician, I knew that he had to have two dialysis machines, and he was dying, Pachinik told Jones during the April 24, 2002 interview.
00:14:05.000And you could see those in the films whose made-up photos, I'm reading from Pachinik, they were sending us out of nowhere.
00:14:13.000I mean, suddenly, we would see a video of Bin Laden today, and then out of nowhere, They said, oh, it was sent to us anonymously, anonymously, meaning that someone in the government, our government, was trying to keep up morale on our side and say, oh, we still have to chase this guy when in fact he's been dead for months, added Pachinic.
00:14:33.000He went on to say that he was basically on ice and would be rolled out at a politically expedient time, quote, on ice, and he would be brought out at, quote, a politically expedient time.
00:14:49.000In 2003, a high-level White House source told me in Austin.
00:14:57.000You notice, folks, we have high-level sources, like General Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistani intelligence, who led these forces, is going to be joining us in about 30 minutes.
00:15:09.000Notice, we were sent the internal FBI Mayak and Homeland Security reports.
00:15:16.000And for a week, people didn't believe it.
00:15:17.000Even Ron Paul's office was calling me and going, Alex, you really got this from federal marshals?
00:15:22.000You really got this other document from state police?
00:15:31.000Folks, you gotta learn that we've got the sources because people who are whistleblowers know we've got the courage to run with it after we check it out and to not whitewash their main intent.
00:15:43.000I won't try to get a hold of Pchenik, by the way.
00:15:45.000Pchenik, let's check and see if he's alive.
00:15:47.000I'm sure he is, but I haven't even done that yet, because this is all moving fast.
00:15:50.000Pchenik called me about a month after the interview.
00:15:53.000He said, I'm getting incredible heat from the CFR, from government.
00:16:16.000The other was through a well-known associate, someone I've known most of my life, who was at another high-powered event associated with a school.
00:16:40.000That's why you've seen the guy that they made the movie Syriana about, the CIA agent Bayer, coming out saying he was dead a long time ago, kidney failure.
00:16:48.000That's why you got CBS News reporting eight years ago.
00:17:18.000I've got the former Deputy Secretary of State from another administration, Kissinger, a big Republican insider, saying the same thing on my show.
00:17:30.000In fact, maybe I shouldn't reveal this.
00:17:33.000He did threaten me, his lawyer threatened me, and I said, let's dance.
00:17:38.000But I could only talk about what was seen in public.
00:17:42.000In 2003, Lionel Chetwin, who made a movie about Bush being a hero in 9-11, I was flown out to be on Conspiracy Zone with Kevin Nealon, and I'm off the big set, we've all got our own dressing rooms, but right off the set where we're waiting with other guests is a bathroom, a big bathroom, nobody's in there.
00:17:59.000I go to the urinal, I'm washing my hands, Lionel Chetwin walks over, and he says, you're Alex Jones.
00:18:06.000We're going to effing get you and i i bowed up to him and i said i said you think i do what i do and i don't think you guys are gangsters and then he said something else but then i would only because of his threats afterwards talk about what was witnessed because i was smart They had the young women, you know, who lead the guests around, waiting outside with their clipboards.
00:18:30.000And as we're walking out, he's still saying things.
00:18:32.000And I go, Chetwyn just threatened me, because I wanted it on record.
00:18:53.000That Pachinko interview sent shockwaves through them.
00:18:57.000Because this is one of their ultimate, I'm getting chills right now, one of their ultimate propaganda weapons was this Bin Laden super ace in the hole to roll it out at the key point.
00:19:09.000You can pull up a Conspiracy Zone episode, it's on YouTube, with me getting in.
00:19:13.000You wonder why I dominate him and get in his face and he's cowering and I'm pointing at him in his chest?
00:19:18.000Because he just threatened me in the bathroom.
00:19:41.000We have this entire system, and they knew, and they were gonna use it no for as Albright said, but they couldn't use it because of Pachinick and others, and that's why they were so mad.
00:19:51.000So they waited, they kept it on ice literally, now they roll it out.
00:19:57.000We'll break down how they did it when we come back.
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00:23:57.000Okay, so let's break this down and then I'll go into more detail.
00:24:14.000A head of the former head of Pakistani intelligence, Hamid Ghul, joining us.
00:24:17.000and And I would expect that he's going to make the point that Pakistani intelligence was involved in this raid and because all he wants is the U.S.
00:24:37.000Two of them that I spoke to directly, one of them who I can reveal because he was live on air, Steve Pichenik, the number two under Kissinger, saying he's dead, died of kidney failure, they're going to roll him out.
00:24:51.000Madeleine Albright, same thing, died of kidney failure, they've got him frozen, gonna roll him out.
00:24:56.000Fox News, December 16, 2003, on Morton Kondracki program, being interviewed by Morton Kondracki.
00:25:09.000Remember in 2000, remember in 2001, 2002, they kept saying that they had him in their sights in Pakistan.
00:25:18.000The special forces were ready to kill him on the ground.
00:25:35.000Because whether they really had the real Bin Laden on their sides or not, they want that myth to continue and go on as a pretext to keep expanding these wars.
00:25:47.000Now remember, Osama Bin Laden, on record, was a CIA asset.
00:25:56.000And if you don't know about this, this is even in Newsweek.
00:25:58.000We have those articles linked to the articles we've written.
00:26:02.000In 79, Brzezinski's now written two books on this.
00:26:05.000They start having Al Qaeda slash Taliban attack Russian bases on the Afghan border to the north, the three nations that border it, two of which the Russians were in, to get them to come in in 1981.
00:26:48.000Now, magically on 9-11, Newsweek, MSNBC report, That Bush had the launch order to launch the attack on Afghanistan signed September 10, 2001.
00:27:05.000In the six months before, they massed 44,000 U.S.
00:27:08.000troops, 18,000 British troops into Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
00:27:13.000They had the whole invasion force lined up before 9-11.
00:27:17.000Now, what does FBI translator Sybil Edmonds say?
00:27:22.000She testifies to Congress, they put a gag order on her, later she breaks the gag order two years ago, and she goes public.
00:27:29.000She was listening to FBI tapes, off echelon, of the CIA, quote, drug dealing, arms dealing, and running Al Qaeda, including the day of 9-11.
00:27:46.000Most of the intelligence agencies don't know.
00:27:48.000A lot of the ground troops they're going to fight that are called Jihadis, Al Qaeda, Taliban, whatever name they give them, they don't know.
00:27:57.000That's why when they took over Afghanistan, Kandahar, Kabul, Times of London reported on the airlift of evil.
00:28:06.000You can search any of these terms, pull it up, where 8,000 Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders who were captured were ordered flown out to Pakistan and released.
00:28:15.000Now those same guys have been flown into Libya to attack Qaddafi and we're hearing how they're our little heroes and that Al-Qaeda ain't so bad.
00:28:23.000They're doing this to end one phase of the psychological war and move on with new boogeymen like Amir al-Awlaki, who's admittedly grew up born in New Mexico and then runs all the major terror attacks in the West, the Underwear Bomber, the Shoe Bomber, the Fort Hood Shooter, the Times Square Attacker.
00:28:42.000The government says he's running them.
00:28:44.000He's controlling these nutpatsies that are real terrorists.
00:28:48.000He's finding them, and funding them, and he's being protected, and he's meeting secretly at the Pentagon.
00:28:56.000And I was on with Mancow this morning, on a syndicated show, and he's like, well, you claimed that.
00:29:12.000So, everybody's supposed to be overwhelmed with this pride and play Team America and all this music, and people are calling in just ecstatic with glee.
00:29:21.000Who's worried about the economy imploding?
00:29:23.000Who's worried about the government-run health care?
00:29:25.000Who's worried about all the police state and the TFJ?
00:29:28.000No, Obama, whose approval rating was plunging, you watch, it's going to go up now, and they just already had it scripted weeks ago for this morning, Congressional Medal of Honor.
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00:33:42.000On record for decades, they've got satellites and aircraft that can look through hundreds of feet of rock and pick up the resident signature of highly refined uranium and plutonium.
00:33:54.000They know exactly where it is, but, oh, Al-Qaeda inside government buildings?
00:33:59.000You or I couldn't sneak into a government building and, uh...
00:34:03.000You know, put a teacup in the basement, but magically they went in and buried nukes.
00:34:08.000That's right, Al-Qaeda from their caves, they buried 160 nukes and that's in the news today and thank goodness the TSA is there and they're upping security at airports and train stations and may have checkpoints and they're calling back the nuclear, chemical, biological teams from Japan that were helping because my gosh, Al-Qaeda is about to hit us any minute.
00:34:30.000So you better be glad that we're in Afghanistan and Libya and everywhere else.
00:34:35.000Well, in Libya, it's the good al-Qaeda, the media says, so you need to be patriotic and support those guys, like John McCain said.
00:34:44.000And then scripted on a Sunday night so it would dominate, so the newspapers would only have an hour or two to take whatever the White House said, no critical thinking.
00:34:53.000So the alternative media couldn't get ready to respond to it, but we never sleep, so we were on it.
00:35:33.000Remember, Steve Pchenik, the right-hand man in the State Department of Henry Kissinger, comes out and says he's on ice, he's dead, they're going to roll him out.
00:36:15.000Then about a year later, White House source Uh, who I run into, just makes the big joke about, ha, we got it all set in the campaign, doesn't matter, we'll just bring Bin Laden out a week or two before the thing, we got him on ice, ha, yeah, he's dead.
00:36:29.000And, uh, the story's universal, uh, from these sources.
00:36:34.000He was dying of kidney failure, so they just killed him in Pakistan.
00:36:40.000And people say, well, then how do they have these Marines lie?
00:36:43.000Well, you're not seeing them on the news.
00:36:45.000They'll all write books later and be movie stars, and Matt Damon will undoubtedly be playing them, or George Clooney.
00:36:56.000But you've got in the middle of a city, on the edge of the city, this big giant palace compound, and the thing is blowing up and fire shooting out of it.
00:37:06.000And they basically just grab some guy with a beard and say that's him, even if they did that.
00:37:12.000And then to get rid of the body, they immediately, to follow Islamic law, quote, run out and burial at sea so that there can't be a shrine.
00:37:23.000They're going to tell you the results.
00:37:27.000Really, Houston Crime Lab, San Francisco Crime Lab, FBI Crime Lab, I've had the former head of the Crime Lab on, Dr. Frederick Whitehurst, uh, 15 years ago, 10 years ago than last year, breaking down the industrial fraud.
00:38:55.000They put out a clearly doctored photo with some gauze and a bandage on his chest and his mouth open and his head all blown to bits.
00:39:05.000And from about 10 o'clock last night until about 7 a.m.
00:39:10.000this morning, They ran it in newspapers and everywhere, saying, there's the dead Bin Laden.
00:39:15.000And I kept hearing phone calls this morning, it's great, I got to see the photo of that dead rat, before they threw him in the ocean.
00:39:22.000I'm walking a little taller, little spring in my step.
00:39:25.000The talk show host, we want to hear from our military people that we care so much about.
00:39:29.000You're flying on an airplane, and the captain goes, we have two military people on board, everybody please give them a round of applause.
00:39:37.000It's all just part of this, you've got to support the troops, but supporting the troops means supporting whatever the government says.
00:39:44.000Whatever war they launch, but then when they cut their pensions, or steal their death benefits, or try to make them pay for their own medical care, and flush them down the toilet, when they go on food stamps, well, let's not discuss that, that's not patriotic.
00:39:56.000Or when they die of DU poisoning, or they have four times as many deformed children, even Life Magazine reports, well, then the VA's not going to give you any help.
00:40:06.000Remember the Marine officer dying in the wheelchair?
00:40:10.000The Marine Corps captain from the VX nerve gas that got destroyed at Kamasuya, begging for help before Congress in, like, 94, saying, I need treatment and crying.
00:40:20.000Well, that's unpatriotic, him asking for treatment.
00:40:31.000Well, troops, I'll actually try to make sure you don't use DU and die from it.
00:40:35.000I'll try to make sure they don't steal your death benefits as they did 11 years ago in a secret deal, now public, last year.
00:40:44.000See, it's all just this hollow, Obama's plunging in the approval ratings, the wars are unpopular, the dollar is going into the toilet, circling the tubes, and then magically, on May Day, on International Commie Day, out comes Obama, and you could just look at his body language.
00:41:06.000If a used car salesman was looking at me like that saying, there's no problem with this car, It's not gonna throw a rod and then you start listening and you hear the rod about to be thrown.
00:41:15.000I mean, it just radiated as he read off that teleprompter lies and deception and dissembling and that he could barely, with a straight face, sit there and deliver this propaganda.
00:41:29.000The Russians, reportedly from a lot of the reporters that got killed for trying to report on it, at that Beslan massacre, people say, well, were there terrorists inside killing the kids?
00:41:39.000Because they wanted to invade another country.
00:41:41.000They said terrorists from Chechnya were in there.
00:41:44.000And it turned out from the witnesses that did survive, they were guys with masks on, and then they started shooting everybody, threw a bomb in, ran out the back, And then the military, this is on record, the Russian troops, let them get away, and then blew the whole building up, so there's such a big fog of war and fire and death, nobody knows where the guys with the mask went.
00:42:03.000Then you take a couple of the dead bodies of the people in the school, put masks on them, and say, look, we've got the guys that did it.
00:42:37.000And so there's some guy with a turban and a big beard in there, and it's his part to, you know, play along with something, and they kill him dead in a hammer.
00:42:45.000All I know is, Steve Pichenik, number two, under Kissinger at the State Department, comes on and says he's on ice nine years ago, dead, and they're gonna roll him out later when they feel like it.
00:42:56.000Two other sources tell me that off-record.
00:42:58.000Madeleine Albright, three years after I first break all this down, Two and a half years after I break it down, goes on Fox News and says they've got him on ice, they're gonna roll him out, or they're thinking about it, and then the word is they didn't because of all the attention it was getting.
00:43:14.000That's why the system, that's why, that's why when I ran into that head White House, you know, head of media operations guy in the bathroom, he was so angry.
00:43:28.000About to debate him on TV and he was in there and I really was extremely upset because this stuff had just come out a year before.
00:43:38.000Because this is their big plan, this is their big program, this is their big operation.
00:43:43.000Now, the guy we've got scheduled to come on, on record has met and knows Osama Bin Laden.
00:43:50.000He was called a hero in the 80s fighting the Russians.
00:43:53.000The head of Pakistani intelligence, former tank commander, and a big veteran of the war with the Indians decades before, General Hamid Gul.
00:44:16.000And the Pakistanis are going to now say, please leave.
00:44:19.000And the intel that I was already getting from some sources is they might produce bin Laden, but I've heard this so long I ignore it.
00:44:26.000to perhaps as an entree to start pulling out of Pakistan, right at the point the Pakistan government says, get your drones out, get out of here.
00:44:34.000Now, they may actually use this to expand it.
00:44:36.000And I'm hearing that call in the media.
00:44:38.000I heard Senator Graham on TV this morning, driving and listening to television, saying that he shows that Pakistan is duplicitous and basically our enemy.
00:44:50.000And he tried to talk about Al-Qaeda in Libya, why we need to be there to fight Al-Qaeda.
00:44:54.000Went on record, Washington Post, LA Times, they have to admit the core of the, quote, freedom fighters in Libya in the east are Al-Qaeda and Taliban.
00:45:04.000So, folks, they think you're so dumb that they produced a fake bin Laden photo and gave it to the newspapers, and the newspapers all ran with a photo shop the government had already put out three years ago.
00:45:21.000Of him with, you know, bullet holes in his head and his face all smashed in.
00:45:26.000And they know emotionally people needed to see the dead body.
00:45:29.000You know, habeas corpus goes back not just to show the body.
00:45:34.000If you're going to go to jail for something, they need evidence of it.
00:45:37.000It even predates that in a dual way that if the king said there's a bounty on this person, you had to bring the body.
00:45:44.000Bring him in dead or alive, but bring the body.
00:45:46.000Bring the body strapped over the horse or you don't get the bounty.
00:45:50.000But you notice in this Dead or Alive, we don't get to see it.
00:45:55.000And you know, like Mussolini being hauled up in Rome by his feet to be spit on for three days by hundreds of thousands of people, or Ceausescu.
00:46:21.000And I told Kurt Nimmel last night, I said, we need a part in the article about where is his body.
00:46:29.000And conveniently they're thrown in the ocean.
00:46:31.000Now joining us from Pakistan, and we'll find out how close to where this reportedly happened outside one of their largest cities, is General Hamid Gul, retired Pakistani Army General, served as the Director General of Pakistani's Inner Service Intelligence.
00:46:47.000He was instrumental in the anti-Soviet support of Mujahideen in the Afghan war in 79 to 89, and he was also a veteran of a war with India as a ground soldier.
00:47:01.000And we appreciate Hamid Ghul joining us to give us his take on what is unfolding here.
00:47:14.000I see it as a complete PSYOP because my White House sources nine years ago on record confirmed that he had been killed and was frozen on ice.
00:47:24.000But, I mean, what's your take on this?
00:47:28.000Well, they had finished the cell and done away with it.
00:47:31.000Sometime in 2005, there was a cell which was meant specially to chase and track Osama Bin Laden, and then it was called off.
00:47:42.000I mean, that was abolished altogether.
00:48:49.000Yeah, that is what Pervez Musharraf also repeated.
00:48:51.000If you remember, Pervez Musharraf said that he's dead.
00:48:53.000And very authentically, he said, I know he's dead.
00:48:57.000So, on board by that, then this seems to be just a make-believe drama in aid of Obama's campaign next year for his rerun of the presidential election.
00:49:11.000Of course, he's got all the advantage for it, but it's only a symbolic victory.
00:49:16.000As a soldier, I look at it differently, and let me explain it to you.
00:49:20.000I think Osama bin Laden, if at all he was living, he was a very, very ill man.
00:49:27.000And he would have perished in any case with passage of time.
00:49:30.000Over 10 years, his image and his clout has receded into the history.
00:49:36.000And now with this, he's putting up a fight.
00:49:41.000One helicopter brought down and his wife stood in front of him and his son was killed along with his two guards.
00:49:46.000Now this is going to create stuff that is fit for the folklore For the legend-making and for the battle ballad.
00:49:59.000So I think that Obama is going to be a terrible phenomenon for you, for the Americans, and for the Western world.
00:50:07.000Because this is going to enrage the Arab opinion.
00:50:12.000Because the Arab opinion was so badly hurt when Saddam Hussein was caught and he was dragged out of Iraq.
00:50:20.000So this was a sort of a shame that was held on the Arab psyche.
00:50:25.000But this time around, it's going to be different.
00:50:29.000Osama will appear as now a hero, and he will act in the memory of the people, and already we have a wave, a public wave, which is on the rise.
00:50:43.000And if that wave does not get satisfied through democratic means, and as it appears they are being blocked, Then I think they will be left with no choice but to adapt to the philosophy that Osama bin Laden had earlier adopted.
00:51:00.000General Hamid Gul, I completely concur.
00:51:02.000For Western opinion, it makes Obama look like he's tough.
00:51:06.000A week after he kicks off his election campaign, it makes, you know, the wars look like they've paid off.
00:51:12.000But all over Central Asia, the Middle East, it builds him up as a guy that went out in a blaze of glory, you know, up on the mountaintop, like in For the Bell Tolls.
00:51:24.000I mean, this really sells that image and really resuscitates Bin Laden who had faded back into the annals.
00:51:32.000But Madeleine Albright, sir, and I would direct you to PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com, though the sites are pretty much down right now because of mega-traffic.
00:51:40.000We, I was told by, and I'm just giving you this intel because I want you to be able to look into it, Steve Pchenik, who was the number two man under Kissinger who said he worked with Bin Laden and worked with the Pakistanis against the Russians.
00:51:55.000He told me in April of 2002 that he was dead on ice and that would be rolled out whenever they felt like it.
00:52:02.000Then Albright came out on Fox News a year later And said that.
00:52:06.000And I had two other White House sources, before this was even news, tell me this.
00:52:10.000And these are high-powered people who were proud of this.
00:52:13.000And they're so arrogant that they would say this.
00:52:16.000And then now they put out a fake photo.
00:52:19.000They throw the body away, you know, instead of handing it over to the nearest mosque, you know, that was a Wahhabist in the area.
00:52:28.000That, of course, would be the Islamic tradition.
00:53:14.000It's only a psychological boost to the American people, if at all.
00:53:17.000And as you said, it may be a boost for Obama's campaign.
00:53:22.000But other than that, I can assure you, as far as the real matters are concerned, they are going to be worse than before, because al-Qaeda is now spread out.
00:53:32.000into Mahathir, what is North Africa, into Yemen, into Somalia, into Chad, into many other places.
00:53:40.000So Al-Qaeda is a now growing and expanding phenomenon, while the American might and their arrogance is a diminishing phenomenon.
00:53:49.000General Gould, I mean, there's so many points, so many questions I have, but just looking at this, I remember you were on six months ago, and you said the West has lost the war for the opium, for the oil, the people are turning against them, the Pakistani government will soon order the drones the people are turning against them, the Pakistani government will soon order the drones A week ago they said, that's it, you must have them out by mid-May, that's it, and then suddenly this happens.
00:54:16.000I think this timing, this ace in the hole they've pulled in this card game, what are the globalist powers that have hijacked the US and England and are trying to destabilize your country?
00:54:27.000What are they, how are they planning to use this domestically in Pakistan?
00:54:33.000And what's the sentiment of the Pakistani army dealing with a thousand drones bombing your country?
00:54:44.000I can assure you, people of Pakistan are sick and fed up.
00:54:47.000And I think already the limits of our tolerance have been crossed.
00:54:52.000And I think there is going to be a lot of trouble because lines of communication run through Pakistan, of course.
00:54:59.000And if the army is not backing the line of communication, not supporting it, not protecting it, then I can assure you that it will not work out.
00:55:10.000And I think the battle is lost as far as Afghanistan is concerned.
00:55:15.0001st of May yesterday, they said Operation Badar, which is a new operation which they are launching, the spring offensive, and I think there is no way because on the battlefield it has been lost.
00:55:27.000I am prepared to sit down with any top general of America and discuss with him how do you tell me you are going to win.
00:55:35.000We'll war game it and I can assure you he will lose hands down.
00:55:39.000Now the other point that you were talking about is Pakistan.
00:55:43.000If Pakistan gets destabilized as a result of this, and I fear, and I suspect, and so do the people of Pakistan, and the armed forces of Pakistan, that American, some dark impulse in America, not the whole lot of Americans, but people like Patriots, or John Allen, or McChrystal earlier on, and Mike Mullen, I think they are out for slashing our nuclear assets.
00:57:05.000I mean, we could be creeping towards a conflagration.
00:57:08.000Many analysts I interview, who I respect, are saying we are edging towards World War III, starting in Pakistan, if the globalists, the dark impulse, go ahead with this.
00:57:52.000They should have taken the body to the ground zero and then displayed it there and then handed it over to the Muslims for a decent Islamic burial.
00:58:00.000That's a very simple thing that should have been done.
00:58:15.000No, I think now they are aiming at Pakistan and it will be disastrous if they open another war because Iraq is not settled yet.
00:58:25.000Afghanistan they are losing in and as far as Pakistan is concerned, if they go for it, then it will be disastrous because I don't think it will be regional powers and I mean China.
00:58:37.000General Ghul, General Ghul, stay there for one moment.
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01:00:39.000We had it from three White House sources, one public, two secret, and then Madeleine Albright coming out a year later confirming everything I said about him being frozen to be rolled out on Fox News.
01:03:41.000But the issue is that what are these wars about?
01:03:45.000Because now they're telling us in Libya that Al Qaeda's good fighting Gaddafi.
01:03:53.000And we got our Bilderberg source, Jim Tucker, saying at the Trilateral Commission meeting, where the Bilderbergs were meeting a few weeks ago, they were hopping mad that the public knew that Al-Qaeda was Western-run and Western-funded.
01:04:05.000They are hopping mad about that Al-Qaeda myth falling through and now being a big item in talk radio, big item in the news.
01:04:15.000Plus, it's an added boost for Obama, and they already had a scripted Congressional Medal of Honor thing set up weeks ago for this morning, and now it's on every channel.
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01:09:47.000America's getting turned into a third world country By design, yeah And it's fun cause we killed Bin Laden So everything's okay Oh, they just showed the Boy Scouts now trying to take on quote disgruntled vets Who gave that right to me?
01:10:10.000I have the MIAC Homeland Security reports where they demonized the founding fathers and the veterans.
01:10:16.000Oh, and there's the firefighters on the pile, told not to wear their masks, that everything was safe and that the government knew and lied because they hate them.
01:10:25.000And now the firefighters and police and others have to go through a terror database just to get their health care that we fought for nine years.
01:10:40.000Real patriotism is just playing a song, and getting down on your knees, and letting what the country stands for actually be butchered, and now supporting a big murderous empire.
01:11:55.000We shouldn't just go after the unions or the...
01:11:59.000Other groups, with all their entitlements, and teaming up with government to hold people hostage, and the welfare moms, that's a side issue compared to the big megabanks, all that are using their regulators to shut down their competition.
01:13:05.000Then this morning, oh, that was actually an arterious rendering that was put out three years ago.
01:13:10.000We knew it was fake, but we wanted you to feel good and boost your morale.
01:13:15.000You won't have any pension funds or any future, and they'll butcher the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and get rid of everything that flag symbolizes, but that's okay, because on every channel, I could flip to the dial, and I was on Eric Mueller's big syndicated show.
01:13:33.000And it was just, he was playing that under me while I was saying it was an inside job and staged.
01:13:41.000And then when I got off, I went online and listened, and it was just, Well, I know he is CIA and they admit Al Qaeda is over in Libya.
01:13:51.000I know he's telling the truth about a Lockheed.
01:13:54.000I did look that up being at the Pentagon, but still, I just I can't believe our government's involved.
01:14:02.000Do you remember Bloomberg last year with the headline, secret deal signed with Veterans Affairs to take all death benefits of World War II troops up to current serving?
01:14:12.000Because, you know, they give you a form saying, would you like a part of your check to be taken out?
01:14:16.000That the government will match, in some cases, to have an insurance policy for death benefits if you die.
01:14:22.000A little supplement to the regular Pentagon death benefits.
01:14:27.000And then when it comes time you die of a heart attack, cancer, or when you're an old man, or in the field of battle, your widow or widower is sent a form saying, just sign this and you'll get your lump sum cash payment of 500, 600 million bucks in some cases.
01:14:42.000And the little widow who needs that money, boy, her husband's dead.
01:14:46.000She fills out that form and mails it in, and she never gets it.
01:14:50.000They were by a secret agreement allowed to cheat them as long as they could trick them to sign it.
01:14:55.000Oh, I'm supposed to tell the troops if I see one run up and, oh, thank you for your service.
01:15:01.000Now, take all the vaccines they want to give you and let them spray nerve gas on you like Project Shad or have you blow up nerve gas bases and then not wear gear or use DU and die.
01:15:10.000Because when I support you, I just write you off and don't care about you.
01:15:57.000Throughout this hour, Madsen, Wayne Madsen, just popping in for about 10 minutes later, because he's a great expert on things, but just quite frankly, from our years of research, there's nobody been more on top of this than us.
01:16:08.000And I need to go through all our research and the eyewitnesses and all the White House people we had on record that this was an inside job, that he was already dead, that this was going to happen and be rolled out just like it has been.
01:16:21.000But Madsen's popping in with his take, then Watson, who's really been on top of this, Paul Watson popping in next hour.
01:16:28.000But remember, they give you fake photos and try to sell it to you until other media found it and said, this was out three years ago, it's fake.
01:16:34.000And they went, oh, oh, sorry, oh yeah.
01:16:37.000And they've got him up there with the vets to make himself look good, standing next to the wives of guys that died decades ago in wars.
01:16:44.000And he's up there putting Congressional Medal of Honor, giving it to the widows to make him look good.
01:16:52.000And the former head of the Taliban and the Al Qaeda, when they were quote, good, our media said, Hamid Ghul was just on and agreed with me.
01:17:36.000I just want to stay in the military because I don't want the military to be completely comprised of individuals that are complete yes-men and won't stand up for the Constitution.
01:17:45.000So, with that being said, I just wanted to kind of give you my viewpoint on when I came into base today and everybody's smiling ear-to-ear.
01:17:55.000All they can talk about is the draft and which team had the best draft.
01:17:59.000They're sitting there, you know, 10 years, we finally got him.
01:18:02.000I'm like, you know, he would have been around a lot longer than 10 years, you know, we're, you know, we were funding his attacks against Russia, you know, back when they were the Freedom Fighters in the 80s.
01:18:15.000And, you know, you give him the stop and you say, you know, well, I mean, I want him to be gone too, but I'm not going to parade and celebrate his death.
01:18:25.000But, you know, how do we know that this is even authentic?
01:18:28.000And then they're like, well, the president wouldn't have, you know, broke on to national television and, you know, if it wasn't for sure.
01:18:36.000So they just take everything hook, line and sinker.
01:18:39.000Obama was desperate, sinking into quicksand, totally imploding, gas prices going up.
01:18:45.000This will be a nice diversion for him.
01:19:34.000Well, I didn't hear that earlier, but I have also, I've read reports before, you know, in the past about, you know, he died in 2001, you know, kidney failure, and I have seen those reports, so I'm kind of skeptical as his fans anyway.
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01:25:13.000Well, I don't need you to later admit you put out fake videos.
01:25:15.000talking to former CIA section chiefs, unnamed, but it's spy talk with Jeff Stein.
01:25:21.000And they go on to say, former CIA officials admit to faking bin Laden video.
01:25:26.000Well, I don't need you to later admit you put out fake videos.
01:25:29.000They had university professors, experts in computer morphing that looked at one and said it was a bad, it was the template they use in all these animated movies like "Final Fantasy" and "Avatar".
01:25:42.000You see these video games where everybody looks the same.
01:25:52.000I mean, it was like something my kids can make.
01:25:55.000Literally, I've got people in my office in hours can make something better.
01:25:59.000Now, granted, this was six, seven years ago, so it wasn't as good technology, but... And then they had another one where it was him, but it was old videos from 99-2000 re-edited.
01:26:42.000I could get DNA samples of you alive, just go and draw blood from you, pluck a couple hairs, take a little tissue sample, and then they could confirm that it was me.
01:26:51.000No, all you need is cigarette butts or a straw.
01:26:55.000See, the biggest cells are in your mouth and the mucosa cells slough off on a cigarette, on a spoon.
01:27:05.000That's how they get DNA in England at roadside checkpoints.
01:27:11.000Yeah, and where this took place, here it's in an area where all the generals live, all the higher-ups in Pakistan all live in that area.
01:27:22.000What I think is, even if they did get him, he probably died from his Kidney failure and then the Pakistani said okay you come in and take his body and then they flew in there and then they just whacked the rest of the witnesses.
01:27:38.000I mean if they're gonna take out 3,000 people at the World Trade Center, what's killing another three more innocent people?
01:27:44.000Well last year the Washington Post had the headline drones now targeting no-name terrorists and it said if they have a gun Well, everybody, it's like Texas over there.
01:28:27.000But listen, I had intel from Pachinik, the high-level State Department guy, then two White House sources, and then Albright came out on TV, and it was a big national story, and said they're going to stage this.
01:28:41.000But then the word was that that scared Bush so they didn't roll him out in 04.
01:29:04.000They realized when they whacked Kennedy in broad daylight that they could get away with anything, and they've been doing it ever since.
01:29:11.000You know, what you're talking about with another purpose of this is to put the mindset that we're going to face retaliation from this.
01:29:19.000Now, about a month ago, I heard on a little AP radio blurb on the little radio, and it was hardly, there's nothing to it.
01:29:26.000The way it was said was that the State Department and Department of Homeland Security says there's 100% probability that we're going to face a nuclear attack from terrorists, and it's imminent.
01:29:38.000And then last night on the Coast to Coast Show, this guy Hagman said he read an article that he thought was peculiar in the press telegraph from London that said basically the same thing, that it's been logged... No, stay there, stay there.
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01:32:58.000What if I say I'm not like the others?
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01:33:31.000Yeah, we're re-pulling the headlines, but about a month ago, they came out in Chicago News, and it was in a few papers, and said, yes, 160 nukes are buried in America by Al-Qaeda inside federal buildings.
01:33:44.000Now, if you believe that, it's like saying 160 Easter bunnies with leprechauns are buried in every federal building.
01:33:53.000And then I saw new reports out today that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, this is a guy who's been in custody now almost nine years, He's confessed to everything.
01:34:01.000He's confessed to bombing buildings that weren't built or planning to bomb buildings that weren't built till after he was in custody.
01:34:09.000He might as well, again, confess to blowing up the battleship Maine in Havana Harbor in 1898.
01:34:14.000I mean, he might as well confess to You know, making people fall from banana peels 10,000 years ago.
01:34:25.000And he says there's nukes buried in Europe and the U.S.
01:34:28.000and they're going to be detonated now because bin Laden.
01:34:31.000He said, if you kill Bin Laden, nukes will detonate.
01:34:34.000And you've got the world crisis, you've got the global military being positioned in the Middle East, you've got the dollar plunging, you've got Obama plunging in his approval rating, and was this Obama's re-election campaign?
01:34:45.000You know, the billion bucks he needed, the support he needed to look like our hero, and then Bin Laden comes to the rescue.
01:34:55.000Every time Bush would talk about the terror threat, a new Bin Laden tape would come out.
01:34:59.000And they'd have linguists listen to it and say, that's not even somebody from Saudi Arabia.
01:35:04.000That's not even... I mean, they can tell, like accents.
01:35:06.000See, a linguist knows what a voice sounds like from a certain region of China or from a certain region of Brazil, not just what a West Texas person sounds like.
01:36:16.000We've got all these White House sources saying he was on ice eight, nine years ago, including Steve Pchenik, who was underneath Kissinger coming out and saying this.
01:36:28.000And then I've got this Chicago CBS News.
01:36:31.000Threats claim nuclear bombs hidden all over U.S.
01:36:42.000We could get somebody up here with an Arab dialect to claim they're Bin Laden.
01:36:45.000I could have a guy come in here with a fake beard, maybe even a Santa Claus outfit.
01:36:49.000Just paint the Santa Claus beard black.
01:36:52.000And say, well, Bin Laden, you're still alive, and the media might run with it, because they're so primed.
01:36:57.000We always hear, on a message board, Bin Laden said he would do this later.
01:37:00.000It's not confirmed it was Bin Laden, but they run with it.
01:37:03.000That's how you can always tell propaganda.
01:37:05.000We're going to Wayne Madsen here in just a moment, but I wanted to finish up with Chris, then we'll go to Robert and Rusty after we've talked to Wayne for about 10 minutes.
01:37:13.000But finishing up, Chris, military, you were getting into these nuke stories.
01:37:18.000Suddenly I've been hearing it with no substantiating info.
01:37:34.000Well, this gentleman Hagman that was with George Norrie last night, he said last week he found it peculiar that he read an article stating that if Bin Laden was killed, that the United States would face a nuclear holocaust.
01:37:47.000And he just thought it was kind of weird that they would put that in there.
01:37:50.000And here it is just a week before it happened and it was published in one of the British newspapers.
01:37:57.000Now guys, pull that up, pull that up, pull that, just search.
01:38:00.000If Bin Laden is killed, nukes will be detonated, KSM.
01:38:12.000You know, today, the military aircraft... I used to fly C-130s, and the military aircraft is so dependable now that they just don't go down for military aborts, you know, for mission aborts.
01:38:26.000Because, especially those aircraft, if they were used, they were thoroughly gone over.
01:38:31.000They just don't go down for some... That's just something to say that we even lost a helicopter during the mission.
01:38:41.000Look, they had 4,000 advisors that died in just the years right before 9-11.
01:38:49.000Excuse me, I'm trying to read articles and talk to you, and remember, they had 4,000 people die from 60 to 64 before they even, you know, declared somewhat of an official war after the stage gulf of Tonkin.
01:39:27.000Nuke hellstorm if Osama is caught or killed.
01:39:30.000And notice that conveniently came out last week, six days ago.
01:39:37.000Conveniently came out on the 25th, Al Qaeda terrorists have threatened to unleash a nuclear hellstorm on the West if their leader and the world's most wanted terrorist Osama Bin Laden is nabbed.
01:39:49.000A senior Al Qaeda, oh it just came out last week, the head of Al Qaeda in Pakistan was MI6.
01:39:58.000A senior Al Qaeda commander has claimed that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if Bin Laden ever is caught or assassinated according to new top secret files made public by internet whistleblower WikiLeaks.
01:40:12.000Let's go to former anti-submarine warfare expert, former NSA officer, I also worked with the Naval Data Command, a syndicated journalist, in studio with us last Wednesday.
01:40:25.000as he prepares to go on his foreign sojourn.
01:40:28.000And, uh, Wayne, hearing all of this, the fake photo they put out last night, now admitting fake today, uh, the fact that, uh, that, I mean, it's the whole thing that they're not showing the body.
01:40:40.000Uh, Wayne Madsen, what's your, uh, take on this?
01:40:45.000Well, I gotta say, there's more of what's going to be on the track at Churchill Downs next Saturday during the Kentucky Derby.
01:40:53.000There's more of that coming out here in Washington than I've ever seen.
01:40:57.000And what we have here, and my sources are telling me that, very interesting, the linguists and the intelligence analysts at NSA had no information, no chatter about Osama bin Laden being the target of no chatter about Osama bin Laden being the target of this operation before it happened.
01:41:17.000And, of course, after it happened, they picked up all kinds of chatter about bin Laden being killed.
01:41:22.000But these would be the direct support people to provide the intelligence that Navy field team that went in there and supposedly got this guy.
01:41:30.000It looks like this thing has been spun from whole claws.
01:41:35.000This Abbottabad is the location of Pakistan's version of the West Point back in the 80s.
01:41:43.000When bin Laden was in that area fighting the Soviets on behalf of the ISI and CIA during the Mujahideen War against the Soviets, that area around Abbottabad was ringed with U.S. and British signals intelligence stations.
01:41:57.000So why in the world would bin Laden locate himself in what is the version of McLean, Virginia here with all the retired military intelligence types?
01:42:08.000And it was not unknown to the CIA because the CIA would go up there and interface with these intelligence people, too.
01:42:15.000And you've got bin Laden sitting in this, what they call the mansion.
01:42:19.000And I saw there was an ABC News video, apparently from a cell phone, showing this, like, ramshackle bedroom.
01:42:43.000You know, it reminded me of the, uh, remember when they got Saddam out of the spider hole and they showed where he was living, eating Doritos and all kinds of junk food?
01:42:50.000Well, I looked this place up and even mainstream globalist media admits it is full of military bases, the heart of their intelligence operation, that U.S.
01:42:59.000bases are all over the area, both clandestine and public.
01:43:04.000And that it's a few hundred yards from a military base and a military school, and so now they're trying to almost blackmail the Pakistanis, going, oh look, you're with Al-Qaeda.
01:43:13.000I mean, this gets more and more insane by the minute.
01:43:16.000Like, he'd be hanging out on the edge of a major city.
01:43:29.000We're supposed to believe them that they've got 100% DNA identification on the body.
01:43:35.000They said this was done in accordance with Islamic religious rites, but we've got some Egyptian imams now saying, no, it's not in accordance.
01:43:44.000With Islamic religious rights, and we've got, you know, we've got the government telling us to believe us that we got bin Laden and we had his body, we dumped it at sea, but yet the United States is saying that we can't believe Qaddafi who says we killed his son and three grandchildren.
01:44:05.000They're saying, well, we don't have any verification.
01:44:07.000Well, we don't have any verification of this.
01:44:10.000There was no international impartial observers brought in to say, okay, yeah, that's been lying.
01:44:18.000We're supposed to believe the same government that just two days ago, Susan Wright said that Libyan troops were taking Viagra and raping Libyan women, when in fact that was debunked as a hoax.
01:44:32.000And she said it at the United Nations.
01:44:34.000So we've got a long history of Yellow Cake documents, Viagra, throwing babies out of incubators.
01:45:02.000They'd already been inspected by the UN.
01:45:04.000After the coalition takes over, they run right to hydrogen pumps that the US even uses, knowing they're hydrogen 18-wheeler backs, and say they're anthrax labs.
01:45:14.000I mean, that is how Dumb, they think we are.
01:45:40.000They needed a distraction, they needed to get people off the birth certificate, the whole Obama background, they needed to furnish his national security credentials.
01:45:49.000I think this again proves what I've been writing about, is that Obama is basically a tool, a product of the CIA.
01:45:57.000He will do anything they tell him to do.
01:45:59.000You know, now they're saying that he gave the kill order on Bin Laden, but we've got somebody from the military saying, oh no, we would have taken him alive had he not resisted.
01:46:11.000Oh, and the good old boys are having a fetish attack on air.
01:46:15.000I've heard them, especially here locally, they're going, I didn't used to like Obama, but I really like how he gave that kill order.
01:46:24.000Let's not worry about the banks imploding, the government-run health care, the dollar dying, the ATF going after the Second Amendment, shipping guns to Mexico, all the crimes.
01:46:35.000Oh, it's just, oh, we finally got him.
01:46:39.000I mean, this on the heels of the British news admitting the head of al-Qaeda in Pakistan was MI6, this on the heels of a Lockheed being at the Pentagon, I mean, this is incredible, Wayne.
01:46:51.000And now we're being told that the intelligence that Bin Laden was in Abbottabad came from enhanced interrogation techniques, that because we tortured these guys, they gave them up.
01:47:05.000So what this does is the neocons are running around and saying, oh yeah, you see, that torture works.
01:47:12.000When in fact we know that most of the people in Guantanamo had no reason to be there.
01:47:18.000And it's a place to recruit people to be double agents, like the leader of the opposition in Libya, known, admitted al-Qaeda, released out of Guantanamo Bay, to now run the ops.
01:47:28.000Others sent from Virginia to run the ops.
01:47:31.000And at the same time, they have bin Laden in this spook command base of Pakistan, with U.S.
01:47:38.000operatives all over the place, as if this six-foot-four You know, Arab is going to be living for years in the middle of a city.
01:47:46.000I mean, next they're going to tell us that they found Elvis in the compound.
01:47:50.000Well, that's true, and maybe Bob Marley and Jim Morrison along with him, but I'm telling you that everything I heard from many different intelligence sources said that bin Laden died several years ago.
01:48:03.000Now, whether he died, I mean, the question is, did he die violently in Pakistan, as indicated by Benazir Bhutto, the late prime minister?
01:48:14.000I also had intelligence that he escaped After he left Tora Bora, he went back to Yemen, his ancestral homeland, and died of kidney disease.
01:48:22.000So, I mean, the mere fact is that many, many intelligence sources around the world have already stated up front that bin Laden was dead, and all these video and audio tapes were fake.
01:48:34.000And, you know, they put these things out through this search for international terrorist entity site group here in Washington, which is a no-Mosad operation.
01:48:44.000And then they would feed that stuff directly to the government and the corporate media outlets.
01:48:50.000I want to repeat the points you just made.
01:48:56.000When you say that the Washington Post last May admitted that the government created the fake Bin Laden videos, earlier I actually read those headlines here.
01:49:06.000Former CIA officials admit to faking Bin Laden video.
01:49:11.000May 25, 2010, so a little less than a year ago.
01:49:16.000It's buried in a CIA unit's wacky idea to pick Saddam as gay.
01:49:20.000They didn't make that fake video, but they're going to say we did make fake Bin Laden videos.
01:49:25.000Now, continuing with all of this, what about the fake photo they start running at 10 o'clock last night ahead of Obama's speech?
01:49:33.000Obama gives a speech a little bit later, so newspapers didn't have time to check it right before they go to print.
01:49:39.000Suddenly a photo is given to them, it's in papers all over the world, of the dead bin Laden, and then alternative media points out, hey, this photo was out three years ago, it's fake, and they go, oopsie!
01:49:49.000I mean, they think we're so dumb, they want to give the slaves the image of the bad guy, they run this fake photo, I mean, they've been caught red-handed And then I've had Steve Pchenik, the number two guy under Kissinger, admit that he knew Bin Laden, worked with Bin Laden, coming on the air in April of 2002 saying he's dead, he's been frozen, they'll roll him out whenever they want.
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01:54:16.000You have within 30 minutes of the Bin Laden announcement, when they were just saying Obama will make the announcement and my phone began ringing off the hook.
01:54:27.000You have these spontaneous Democratic supporters with crisp American flags showing up in the hundreds to worship Obama, our great hardcore leader.
01:54:37.000Now you have people spontaneously, reportedly, putting flowers at Bush's mansion in Dallas, President Bush, worshiping him for saving us.
01:54:48.000You have, uh, basically repeats of Chalabi, the globalist frontman, in the fake pull-down of the Saddam statue, where the national news only showed up close.
01:54:59.000Later, photos got released, there was like 20 people around the statue, but they said, hundreds of thousands are there, they pulled down the statue.
01:55:07.000Basically, we've all seen Baghdad Bob, up there saying the Americans are not invading the city, as you can see explosions behind him.
01:55:14.000Uh, our government does the same kind of stuff, they just get away with it.
01:56:33.000Well, I guess the corpse would be an afterthought to the President, but I think that's been lined with the Immanuel Goldstein of reality, like Immanuel Goldstein was always pointed to by Big Brother in the novel 1984, he's the enemy and we all have to rally against the enemy, and of course the enemy was a fake.
01:56:57.000And so, after 10 years of war coming up, now we get to feel good.
01:57:23.000A way of legitimizing 10 years of empire right as the American people start to wake up to it.
01:57:30.000Well, Alex, another thing is they're setting the stage for the 10th anniversary of 9-11 in September.
01:57:35.000And we can see it now, how this is going to play out.
01:57:37.000You know, when we finally got bin Laden.
01:57:40.000And we have to remember, Bob Mueller, the head of the FBI, stated that there was no indication that bin Laden He's not on the FBI Most Wanted list and never was, but a lackey who was on one of the lists, he gets to hang out at the Pentagon.
01:57:55.000We'll talk about in the last five minutes when he then calls.
01:57:58.000The next little five minutes we'll talk about the future of this, but I want to go out to break here.
01:58:03.000Here's a clip of Bush saying, I don't care where Bin Laden is, why do I care?
02:00:35.000And they're quoting my interviews here with high-level globalist CFR members that Bin Laden was dead many, many years ago, nine years ago, nine-plus years ago.
02:00:49.000And now you notice that Panetta is leaving.
02:00:53.000Last week, they announced Leaving the CIA to go to the Pentagon, Petraeus to fix intelligence is going to the CIA, and Panetta is the big hero.
02:01:02.000Man, they did this, they took out Bin Laden.
02:01:05.000This could not be more staged, and they're also positioning Petraeus for the presidential run.
02:01:11.000Let's talk about that, and then also the Al-Qaeda commanders, Amr al-Awlaki, they tell us is number two, but also number two is Adam Gadahn, former Mr. Perlman, whose daddy granted he ran the ADL.
02:01:24.000He was arrested once for beating up Muslims outside mosque.
02:01:26.000He hated them so much, but then he joined Al-Qaeda so he could be the pretext to put out videos uploaded in the same video layer as the Intel Center video showing they're the ones putting it out.
02:01:38.000I mean, this is some bold psyops, is it not?
02:01:42.000Oh absolutely, and you know, I mean Panetta, who was not really liked at the CIA, put the big feather in old Joe Camel's hat there when he goes over to the Pentagon.
02:01:54.000I mean, yeah, there's just too many things involved with this.
02:02:00.000So they decided they had to, I guess, defrost bin Laden.
02:02:06.000But look, nobody got an eyeball on his body.
02:02:11.000Like I say, there was nothing on NSA intercepts, and they have that area well covered, indicating there was an operation going on to get bin Laden.
02:02:21.000Obama tried to say, well, we weren't sure, but I authorized this when we had good intelligence.
02:02:28.000He doesn't tell the truth about anything.
02:02:31.000If President Obama told me it was a nice day, I'd have to, you know, put my head out the window and get my own opinion of that.
02:02:40.000But now I see that they're trying to spin this NSA story because now they're saying what got NSA interested in that particular house was the fact there were no cell phones or any communications coming out of there like all the other houses in the area, and that's why they thought it was suspicious.
02:02:56.000So it looks like they're trying to cover themselves by saying it was a communications dead zone just in that one house that turned out to be.
02:03:04.000That's supposedly where Bin Laden would stay.
02:03:28.000You know, they're just playing everybody in this country and elsewhere.
02:03:32.000I mean, did you see Tony Blair was on there patting himself?
02:03:35.000He almost broke his arm patting himself on the back, saying this was a great thing.
02:03:41.000I mean, you know, the liars are out in force right now because they've seen this great Well, Wayne Madsen, I'm going to come back and take some calls from military folks to get their view on this.
02:04:05.000I'll try to calmly recap just all the incredible evidence of how ridiculous this is.
02:04:10.000But as Joseph Goebbels said, good effective propaganda is simple, And something that people want to buy into.
02:04:19.000And, you know, who likes Osama Bin Laden?
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02:08:34.000After that I'm about to go to your calls.
02:08:36.000But doing research now for a video we're about to put out, breaking down the evidence concisely of the hoax of the Bin Laden killing supposedly yesterday.
02:08:46.000We have Teresa Hines Carey coming out in 2003-4 saying the word Washington was he was dead and frozen.
02:08:54.000We have Walter Cronkite coming out and saying it, then Madeleine Albright on Fox News and CNN.
02:09:04.000We have the mainstream news articles about that.
02:09:31.000That article, the transcript, we're trying to dig out the MP3.
02:09:34.000We've saved all our shows but haven't kept very good records.
02:09:37.000If you can find the interview from the date, it's got the date of it in April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Stephen R. Pachinick, It's in the article, inside source, Bin Laden's corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade.
02:09:53.000We had General Hamid Gul, former head of what you could call Taliban and Al-Qaeda, back when our media said they were great, on saying he believes it's a hoax.
02:10:52.000What they were meant to do was they were going to set up a whole border upon, like, the USSR border back in the 70s, and they were just going to fire these things like mad.
02:11:06.000It's to knock out the 10 to 1 superiority of the Russian armor.
02:11:21.000I mean, it's the only one that's still on display.
02:11:24.000on display like okay so anyways we had uh we had been holding tactical fire uh defenses against um against uh i mean the eastern asian period for a long time and also against the uh the equator and there's a lot of like i mean pakistan was one of our main targets
02:11:50.000We used to practice every single day shooting down Pakistan with nukes and I mean that's just, once I saw it come out today, I mean Bush had this thing lined up and He gave it up because he did the whole mission accomplished thing and he kind of put egg on his face.
02:12:15.000He said that it looks like they're creeping towards a full-out attack and snatching the nukes of Pakistan because Saudi Arabia has been running to them for help and I'm telling you folks this is World War III type developments that are lining up.
02:12:28.000Anything else that you'd like to add sir?
02:12:32.000Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, India and Pakistan are two opposing nations, and we have taken the side of India.
02:12:41.000We are going to take the side of India, and so that means we're gonna go all out.
02:13:51.000Or if you don't like him putting out a fake photo of him dead last night knowingly and feel like that's suspicious, or them not showing you the body's suspicious, or all these top people six, seven, eight, nine years ago coming out saying he was on ice, it was staged.
02:14:07.000But see, you thought it'd be Bush doing it for political purposes.
02:14:10.000These people work for the same corporate interest.
02:14:42.000What about the fact that they say that they had the intel nine months ago on this compound, but Osama bin Laden is supposedly the one who killed thousands in the trade center, yet he's in the same location for over nine months.
02:15:00.000It sounds like a guy who's You know, really worried about getting caught as opposed to someone like Saddam Hussein who supposedly didn't sleep in the same place.
02:15:19.000Or you guys search it, because I'll never find it in the 50 or so articles.
02:15:23.000Search attack on Bin Laden compound called off nine months ago, because I did read that.
02:15:29.000And they also said a month ago they were going to bomb it with a whole bunch of stealth bombers with 2,000 pound bombs, but they didn't want to hurt people in nearby buildings.
02:15:39.000They have an open policy of we can kill hundreds of innocent people to kill one bad guy.
02:15:43.000But, oh, to get bin Laden, we didn't want to hurt the neighbors.
02:15:50.000Nine months on the edge of a major city, military bases all around it, and nobody knew Osama bin Laden.
02:15:57.000Folks, I've been with movie stars in Austin, Texas, in California, in other areas, just because they call up, they want me to come visit with them, we become friends, they come visit me, whatever.
02:16:11.000People notice them through tinted windows.
02:16:14.000They decide to go in a gas station to use the bathroom.
02:16:16.000By the time they come back out and you're pumping gas, 20 cars are there.
02:16:21.000There's nobody with more visual, globally known, except for like a George Bush, a Barack Obama, a Elvis, a Some have been Laden.
02:17:41.000No, but I mean, Donald Trump is as dirty as a, speaking of bathrooms, as a side of the road, you know, 7-Eleven bathroom.
02:17:50.000I mean, I just don't know what, I mean, it's all about the hype.
02:17:54.000I tried to go see his address and turned it on and it was The Apprentice that I've never seen with all these people posing and acting weird and then the President cuts in.
02:18:17.000Long time, this is the first time I've called here.
02:18:19.000I just wanted to call in and say I'm ex-army.
02:18:23.000I remember about a month after 9-11 occurred, I was sent to Pakistan, and our mission was to provide support for the CIA who were operating the drone planes.
02:18:34.000And now I'm looking at news articles on CNN and C-SPAN, and they're suggesting that, oh, well, Pakistan was hiding Osama bin Laden.
02:18:46.000You know, they're assisting in him trying not to be captured.
02:18:50.000I just think that's bogus because the whole time I was there, that was the whole mission was to find him within Pakistan.
02:18:56.000And Pakistan was helping you, because I've talked to other soldiers, but they said that they would tell you, you're in an area US troops have never been.
02:19:04.000There'd be graffiti, MREs, shell casings, laying around, then you'd meet buddies later who'd been there a month before.
02:19:18.000They definitely manipulate everything through the media.
02:19:20.000Another thing, too, while I was there providing support, we would do things as far as burning trash and burning waste that we produced while we were there.
02:19:30.000And we worked side by side with Pakistani soldiers.
02:19:33.000And there's a big misconception out there saying, oh, the Muslim religion, they don't want you to see their wives.
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02:24:18.000Alright, Paul Watson for the balance of the hour.
02:24:19.000We'll also go to Don in Germany, Matt in Arizona, and other current or former military who've dealt with these Islamic jihadis and their take on this whole situation.
02:25:40.000Online birth certificate document was changed.
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02:28:20.000Well, Alex, I don't understand why everybody's celebrating when our great ally is dead.
02:28:25.000I mean, we're supporting Al-Qaeda in Libya, we're supporting them overthrow the government in Iran, we supported Bin Laden in Serbia and Kosovo in the 90s, we supported Bin Laden in the 80s.
02:28:39.000He's been very helpful to the US military-industrial complex in the wanton slaughter of innocent people in broken back third world countries.
02:28:49.000And those people that are now celebrating his death are tending to forget that great contribution that Osama bin Laden made as an ally to the US military-industrial complex.
02:29:02.000So I'm baffled as to why people are happy that he's dead when he's been of such great use over the past three decades.
02:29:10.000And remember Bandar Bush a few months after 9-11 on Larry King Live, the U.S.
02:29:14.000ambassador from Saudi Arabia, their ambassador here.
02:29:18.000King talked bad about Bin Laden and he said don't talk bad about him, he's a great hero.
02:29:23.000That's because there was the dual propaganda over there.
02:29:25.000They were saying he was good, but it wasn't polite to point out that Saudi Arabia was saying how great he was, and that he's admittedly CIA.
02:29:32.000The good news is, this has all gone mega-viral.
02:29:36.000We didn't just go to bed last night at midnight when all this was happening.
02:29:39.000We stayed up much of the night and got the intel out.
02:29:42.000Great job to you, Kurt Nimmo, Jaron Neihardt, myself.
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02:33:16.000Remember, on May 25, 2010, the Washington Post basically just let it slip out like you do kind of quietly in church to hope nobody notices the foul little gaseous dropping that, yeah, the CIA made fake bin Laden the Washington Post basically just let it slip out like you do kind of quietly Bye.
02:33:37.000Didn't matter all those university heads and experts and linguists that looked at the video, studied the voice.
02:33:41.000They were all fake, or they were old videos re-edited.
02:33:44.000I could just look and go, that's the same video, the same jacket, he never ages.
02:33:49.000Well, now they just admit it's all fake.
02:33:50.000Fake photo yesterday issued in all the newspapers, TV, then later, yeah, it is fake when folks pointed it out.
02:33:57.000But doesn't matter, it feels good to see it, and people, the general public will always think that was real.
02:34:03.000In fact, there are still news outlets out there reporting, that's the photo, that you can't see the body, it's been thrown in the ocean.
02:34:11.000If you go back to habeas corpus, it wasn't just, if you're going to arrest you for murder, they need to find the body to say you committed murder.
02:34:22.000If he said, letter of mark, go out and find this highwayman, this thief, dead or alive, 30 pounds, dead or alive, and you had to bring in the dead body.
02:34:34.000In fact, if somebody had run to Europe a thousand miles away, they generally wouldn't pay for it unless you had the body shipped, even if it was rotten.
02:34:43.000So what they would a lot of times would do is chop the head off and put it in a bag of salt, and then just rush back, because you could get huge bounties for getting traitors or criminals.
02:36:25.000After we first, in 2002, from White House sources, two of them secret, one of them public, Steve Pachinick Former deputy under Kissinger, who knew Bin Laden, coming out and saying it was all fake, he was frozen, that they would roll it out.
02:36:41.000I mean, this is a big public secret in Washington.
02:36:45.000And now they've done this, it shows how desperate they are.
02:36:49.000Watson, you've got the floor, because I want to get to some calls coming up too.
02:36:52.000Full spectrum, what are the key points here?
02:36:55.000Well, in relation to what you were just talking about, we reported that they had him on ice.
02:37:02.000You had top intelligence professionals, respected ones, saying that that was the case.
02:37:08.000And then Democrats, just before the 2004 election, started making a big stink about it.
02:37:13.000So, Literally three days before the election, they wheeled out the next best thing, which was this videotape of Bin Laden basically dissing Bush.
02:37:25.000Of course, it gave Bush the three or four percentage points he needed to overturn Kerry and win the election.
02:37:32.000And it was this Bin Laden with a dyed beard, as if that would ever happen.
02:37:38.000And so they chose the next best thing.
02:37:41.000So they had the opportunity to do it then and they probably pulled back from it because there were so many Democrats making such a big stink about it.
02:37:49.000So that's why he's been on ice for that long.
02:37:52.000In relation to the phony image that we were talking about earlier, it was confirmed as a hoax.
02:37:58.000I wrote an article immediately saying this is a hoax.
02:38:01.000Why is it on the top of the Daily Mail website?
02:38:04.000Why is it on the top of the London Telegraph website?
02:38:07.000Why is it being played across the Middle East?
02:38:10.000And indeed the Guardian on their own live blog last night in the early hours of the morning We're speculating whether it was real or fake.
02:38:19.000And then today, they have the nerve to come out and blame, quote, conspiracy theorists for circulating this image as a genuine picture of the dead bin Laden.
02:38:30.000And by the term conspiracy theorists, they basically mean us.
02:38:34.000When we were there right at the very start saying it was a hoax, When all the mainstream media was saying this is a picture of dead Bin Laden.
02:38:41.000But it shows their hatred of their listeners and viewers and readers, how they treat them with total contempt.
02:38:47.000And now they're saying that it was killed, not captured, no prisoners taken, because whatever poor guy they had in there.
02:38:56.000It turns out that the White House was doing drills.
02:38:59.000Jerry Bruckheimer, we know, with the saving the private in Iraq that they ran drills of that and that was scripted and that nobody was resisting and that the area had been safe for two days and they knew that it was safe.
02:40:33.000Paul, I think this is going to blow up in their face.
02:40:35.000Unless they hurry up and stage their terror attack.
02:40:39.000Well, that's the whole point about it.
02:40:41.000Basically, they've wheeled out the words of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who, because he's been tortured until kingdom come for the past five years, and basically admits to being, you know, Jack the Ripper, the gunman on the grassy knoll, and the Grinch who stole Christmas, and everything else under the sun.
02:41:00.000He was supposedly planning to attack buildings in the U.S.
02:41:05.000He's the one that led them to the location of Bin Laden, and now he's the one from these WikiLeaks documents, again, WikiLeaks backing up the U.S.
02:41:14.000military-industrial complex, as they routinely do, just a few days ago coming out and saying that there's going to be this nuclear holocaust if Bin Laden is captured.
02:41:25.000And it's all about terror fear-mongering.
02:41:26.000Now you've got the increased bag patrols in the metro, the subway stations.
02:41:31.000Oh yeah, the war on terror is not ending.
02:41:33.000People are like, now can I not have you grab my crotch?
02:42:50.000Well, you mentioned the ABC News story and, I mean, they call us conspiracy theorists.
02:42:55.000This thing about the US chemical biological experts being withdrawn from Japan as if it's some kind of response to the deadly nuclear al-Qaeda holocaust that's coming.
02:43:06.000Those people were withdrawn days ago at the request of the Japanese government because the Japanese government said they didn't need them.
02:43:16.000Yeah, ABC News has baselessly connected it to the Bin Laden story to craft this hoax, despite the fear of God into people, that they expect, you know, nuclear, chemical, biological attacks.
02:43:32.000And they're also trotting out Anwar al-Awlaki, the CIA lackey, as the new Bin Laden for And no reality is connected to this.
02:43:41.000He's admitted CIA, admittedly trained, runs all the major Patsy attacks, and it's like, I'm on major talk shows, and a month ago they were ready to talk about it, a week ago now they're like, yeah I know he's at the Pentagon, but still, Al Qaeda's real, this is so great we killed bin Laden.
02:44:19.000and worldwide where men and women are chopping their arms and legs off, and they have their arms and legs chopped off more and more because they've always got to get trendier than the other, and then they live in a box in a diaper.
02:44:53.000They like the person doing the brainwashing.
02:44:56.000And it's funny that we had this big fake patriotic fervour in the UK a few days ago with, you know, Union Jacks everywhere outside people's houses.
02:45:06.000Of course, they daren't put them up at any other time because they get called racist.
02:45:10.000And then you've got this massive fake patriotic fervour today with these George Washington University College kids that just Miraculously turned up on the White House lawn minutes after the announcement.
02:45:48.000Yeah, and so you've got this big fake celebration when these people in reality are only celebrating another chapter in the collapse of the United States as a global empire and a global superpower because as Hamid Gul was warning in the last hour when you spoke to him, this only has the potential to lead to more war and more bloodshed in the Middle East.
02:46:11.000I mean, Bin Laden, as I wrote in my article today, was a very useful boogeyman in life, but in death, you know, the propaganda value will only be intensified because it's P2OG rearing its head once again.
02:46:25.000It's about killing terrorist leaders to then provoke more terrorist attacks, which is exactly now what they're telling us will happen.
02:46:36.000And we're told that the United States invaded Afghanistan because that was where Bin Laden was being harboured.
02:46:43.000Now that Bin Laden's finally dead, does that mean that Obama will move to pull the troops out of Afghanistan?
02:46:50.000As you said earlier, does it mean that we're not going to get TSA sticking hands down six-year-old pants?
02:46:56.000As Michael Moore asks today on his website, does this mean that we can have shampoo in our carry-on bags going into the airport?
02:47:07.000It means the wars are going to be intensified because now they're going to use any terrorist attacks that come as a result of this, whether real or contrived, as a further justification to go after Syria and to legitimise the airstrikes, the bombings, the killing, the murders of little kids in Libya as well.
02:47:25.000Yes, and they're saying, hey, look, we did this for 10 years but it paid off.
02:47:45.000No, I mean exactly, and it's just about another big worship of the government, just like we had last week in the UK and now you're having it there.
02:47:53.000And every other issue, the fact that the dollar's collapsing, that they're murdering little kids in Libya, that China is, by 2016, going to be the new global superpower.
02:48:05.000Coincidentally, because it doesn't spend all its money on bombing broken back third world countries.
02:48:10.000That's all shoved to one side and the nation gets to have this big fake pep rally over Osama Bin Laden's iced corpse being thawed out 10 years after he's already died.
02:48:25.000It's another fake, it's another phony.
02:48:27.000And it was based in the very first hours on this fake backdrop of this hoax image that all the mainstream media outlets reported as genuine.
02:48:38.000And then when it became confirmed that it was a hoax, blame it on the conspiracy theorists.
02:48:42.000And now there are more articles coming out.
02:48:45.000You mentioned one earlier on out of the Atlantic, lambasting the conspiracy theorists for daring to say that it's fake.
02:48:52.000And notice he wouldn't link to our actual articles that have the transcripts with the former number two person at the State Department saying he was frozen and it was all fake nine years ago.
02:49:03.000No, they link to a quote Cheech and Chong forum and you go there and it's not really our evidence, it's their stuff to make it look like we're crazy weed heads.
02:49:14.000Well yeah, it's just like the London Guardian blamed it on conspiracy theorists and yet they provided no source for what conspiracy theorists said that the hoax Bin Laden dead image was real when they were all saying it was fake as the mainstream media was saying it was real.
02:49:30.000So again, it's La La Land, it's black is white, up is down.
02:49:33.000And the propaganda is only going to get more intense in the coming days because they need to use this to legitimize the wars in the Middle East and the attack on Libya.
02:49:46.000I was doing an interview Saturday with some folks we brought into town for an upcoming film and I called my wife Saturday.
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02:53:59.000I'm doing five minutes into overdrive so I can go to these callers that are patiently holding, and I appreciate you holding while Watson was on.
02:54:10.000Who's up first out of all these callers?
02:54:12.000It'd be Don in Germany, Matt and others, or who?
02:54:17.000Okay, we're gonna go to Matt in Arizona and others here in just a moment.
02:54:22.000My friends, this signifies The recklessness of the globalists, that they would put out a known, fake, long form that now mainline analysts are looking at and are saying, yes, this has been altered.
02:54:36.000I mean, they could create a whole cloth fake one better than this, because it's designed to get us fighting with each other, and then they move on to the next thing.
02:55:50.000Because they are clearly testing the public And this is the most important thing I've said today, and I meant to say it for the whole last three hours and just got so busy with other minutiae I didn't get to it.
02:56:02.000This is the number one thing I want to say right now.
02:56:44.000And they need to have Obama be able to look like he's anti-Al Qaeda right now, because the myth of Al Qaeda was broken as it was in the LA Times, New York Times, that yeah, Al Qaeda is good and bad, and the group we're working with, they're good.
02:57:01.000And that's what Henry Kissinger went crazy at that Trilateral Commission meeting.
02:57:04.000Remember two weeks ago we covered this, or a week and a half ago?
02:57:50.000Until people just finally go, I don't know what the truth is anymore.
02:57:57.000I know the globalists lie even when it suits them because they don't ever want to tell the truth because if they ever tell the truth that might start creating that instinct in them.
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03:00:02.000You know, you notice that you had all these college kids, and they look like little kids, I guess they're adults, running around waving their American flags, part of a staged event, within minutes of the announcement that their king, their emperor, would be announcing that he had defeated the evil demon, Usama bin Laden.
03:00:21.000There's like so many other staged events, but you know, pro-war, anti-war, any group that tries to protest without a permit is arrested and beaten outside the White House.
03:00:39.000The PSYOP that I've seen through my military career.
03:00:41.000kill the patsy terrorist in fantasy land and reality and fantasy are just blurring now and a lot of people can't tell the difference matt in arizona you're on the air i just want to i just want to discuss one thing the psyop that i've seen through my military career i've been in the military for 10 years and i've seen it uh evolve and
03:01:07.000When I first went in the military, my first awakening to it, we were told by our command that we were to tell our families that the war on terror was progressing well, and we were taking out all these, you know, essentially enemy leaders, which was completely untrue.
03:01:34.000I didn't understand it, and part of me didn't believe it, so I went along with it.
03:01:39.000And gradually, as my military career went on, and I came back home, and I saw the hatred, just the absolute hatred and passion that my friends and family had toward these ghosts, these people that basically don't exist, that harm us, you know, and the people who are harming us, we're letting them do it.
03:02:05.000I had a hard time fathoming it, and as times progressed, and I live in Tucson, and I watched the whole thing with Jared Loughner, and I watched that hatred just build and build.
03:02:17.000And then last night, my wife calls me into the other room and tells me, Ben Lawton's dead.
03:02:32.000Well, people get caught up in the event.
03:02:34.000Humans that are even highly intelligent get into a mob psychology because 10,000 years ago, if a group of saber-toothed cats came over or another tribe about to kill you and take your land and your kids, you got together in mob psychology.
03:03:59.000You say a prayer for those dead people in your heart, and you fight for their real memory, that the real criminals that murdered them, they brought to justice.
03:04:06.000Don't put red, white, and blue candles out on the front, buying into the mass fake psychology.
03:04:13.000It's like this, when the Nazis said that the Poles attacked them, it wasn't true.