Alex Jones Show - 20131224_Tue_Alex

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00:00:07.000 Ah, art crime.

00:00:19.000 Because there is a war on for your mind.

00:00:27.000 There is a war on for your mind.

00:00:32.000 On this Christmas Eve worldwide broadcast.

00:00:38.000 And that's why they want to bring down the basic icons of Christmas, which is even bigger than, quote, Christianity.

00:00:46.000 And by that I mean not more important, or not truly overshadowing Christ, but politically and socially, it is.

00:00:55.000 When John Lennon said we're bigger than Jesus, it was an arrogant statement he later apologized for as he tried to lose his ego and come back down to earth and speak out against those that wanted to reduce world population as fascist because he'd been led into the higher levels of the New World Order and rejected it.

00:01:14.000 But my point is, is that in the secular world, Christmas is bigger than just Christianity.

00:01:21.000 But because it has its roots in Christianity and the birth of baby Jesus 2,000 plus years ago, in Israel today, the system wants to censor it and shut it down.

00:01:33.000 Because if they can do that, they can get away with anything.

00:01:39.000 If they can feed us superbug bacteria-infected chicken and have the federal government certify it, that's the Reuters headline, then they can get away with anything.

00:01:49.000 If they can give us flu via the flu shots and put sodium fluoride to brain damages in the water, the sky's the limit.

00:01:55.000 Why, they can pass Obamacare, written to double and triple and quadruple your rates, written to cut the quality of care, written to set up death panels, all on record! 0.99

00:02:04.000 And they denied it, knowing their idiot constituents, like lambs to the slaughter, would not go research the information, knowing that they would instead simply go along with it until it was too late. 0.98

00:02:20.000 And then even after they found that it was a screw job, they would just submit to it and the system, the war machine, the deindustrialization machine, the consolidation machine, would simply roll forward. 0.97

00:02:33.000 Well, the good news is humanity is awakening and you're listening to an original worldwide transmission on the 24th day of December 2013.

00:02:45.000 And I'll be popping in throughout the transmission with original recording that I made on what?

00:02:54.000 Friday the 20th day of December 2013.

00:02:56.000 So even though this fresh original recording for you The great people that would tune in on Christmas Eve, uh, is not live.

00:03:07.000 What is live?

00:03:09.000 Most of my broadcasts are live, but soon it'll be 2014, then 2015, then 2027, and then 2058, and then 2198, and then 2274, and then 2023, and then on and on until it's the year 3000, and then 2023, and then on and on until it's the year If humanity survives and moves forward.

00:03:33.000 Because time really is relative, isn't it?

00:03:34.000 We're all basically in the past, the present and the future.

00:03:37.000 We're all part of creation, all part of reality.

00:03:40.000 And it's important to remember the universe and the individual mind.

00:03:45.000 Is bigger than all the bureaucrats and all the sandcastles they build that will crumble into the sea eventually, to quote the great Jimi Hendrix, the great poet Jimi Hendrix.

00:03:58.000 And off in the distance, the Wildcats were approaching.

00:04:02.000 And they heard the Wildcats howl.

00:04:05.000 Because the writers were approaching.

00:04:08.000 To paraphrase and butcher Jimi Hendrix.

00:04:11.000 Because it is teleprompter, talking point, free radio, TV, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:16.000 Alright, when we come back...

00:04:18.000 We are going to have an original premiere here of InfoWars review of It's a Wonderful Life with Jimmy Stewart with our own David Knight.

00:04:31.000 So that is coming up.

00:04:33.000 And then, oh, I forgot it.

00:04:34.000 Will you guys bring me my print off of the text of It was the night before Christmas when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a genetically engineered mouse.

00:04:47.000 So that is coming up as well.

00:04:50.000 And then we've got some big interviews the last month or so that we're going to be re-airing as well.

00:04:54.000 I want to commend the great crew for coming in to get all this done as well.

00:04:57.000 And of course you, the listeners, spending time with us on Christmas.

00:05:00.000 Merry Christmas to all of you.

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00:08:10.000 This is false crime.

00:08:18.000 He aligns himself with the truth.

00:08:21.000 And it's time for you to choose a side.

00:08:23.000 This is illegal.

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00:08:29.000 The government is God.

00:08:33.000 The state and the bureaucrats that run it are king.

00:08:40.000 Christ?

00:08:42.000 Call the FCC! 0.98

00:08:43.000 You're not allowed to speak nasty, dirty words that sting in the ears of our beloved Lord and Savior, Satan. 0.86

00:08:53.000 Pull down the Christmas trees, destroy the churches, and Al Qaeda spread throughout the world, not just Syria, and take on our enemies. 0.70

00:09:02.000 This satanic broadcast brought to you by Barack H. Obama and trendy loving liberalness. 0.98

00:09:09.000 No, ladies and gentlemen, it's actually brought to you by the Infowar, and only a satanic, pig-like government would try to restrict free speech and attack Christianity. 0.97

00:09:18.000 But why is the system always after Christians? 1.00

00:09:23.000 Why is that happening?

00:09:25.000 Why is that going on?

00:09:27.000 It's because the tyrants fear liberty.

00:09:31.000 And if they can pull down the icons of our culture, they can replace it with anything.

00:09:35.000 And any conquered people have their religion destroyed and overwritten by the usurpers.

00:09:42.000 And so we are here speaking out against this today.

00:09:45.000 Again, it is the night before Christmas.

00:09:48.000 And I'm going to give you my rendition of the Night Before Christmas, literally unscripted.

00:09:51.000 I'm just going to read it and then make my little comments on it as we go.

00:09:56.000 But first, we have a review by the great David Knight of Infowars Nightly News of It's a Wonderful Life with Jimmy Stewart.

00:10:04.000 And so he's going to parallel this Christmastime special about the banksters, the gangsters, A.K.A.

00:10:10.000 the 100-year anniversary of the Federal Reserve that just passed yesterday and their occupational rule over us.

00:10:16.000 And then we're going to come back and I will give you my night before Christmas right off the top.

00:10:23.000 This is going to be original.

00:10:24.000 You know I do it.

00:10:25.000 And so that's coming up as well.

00:10:27.000 Thank you for joining us on this Christmas Eve.

00:10:30.000 Here is David Knight and his review of the great Christmastime special.

00:10:34.000 If you haven't seen it, I suggest you watch it.

00:10:36.000 It's a wonderful life.

00:10:40.000 Over the last 100 years, the Federal Reserve has created bubbles and burst them, enslaved us with debt, and destroyed our purchasing power through inflation.

00:10:49.000 Yes, it's been a wonderful lie for the bankers.

00:10:52.000 There are striking parallels in Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life to the lies and tricks that real bankers use to create the Federal Reserve.

00:11:00.000 Human nature doesn't change.

00:11:02.000 And the greedy elite of 1913 and 2013 look and act a lot like Potter, the banker in the movie.

00:11:09.000 And many Americans are left like George Bailey, staring into the abyss as their dreams collapse and they face financial ruin.

00:11:16.000 Do we live in a country that looks a lot more like Pottersville than Bedford Falls?

00:11:20.000 What does Frank Capra's film show us about how we got here?

00:11:23.000 and how we can get out.

00:11:25.000 When the Federal Reserve was created two days before Christmas, 100 years ago, it was a culmination of six years of fraud, fear, and manipulation.

00:11:33.000 I've never really seen one, but that's got all the earmarks of being a run.

00:11:38.000 The Panic of 1907 was used to shape public support for the Fed.

00:11:42.000 The panic was triggered by rumors that two major banks were about to become insolvent, just as we see in the movie.

00:11:47.000 George, there is a rumor around town that you've closed your doors.

00:11:51.000 Is that true?

00:11:52.000 I am going all out to help in this crisis.

00:11:57.000 I have just guaranteed the banks sufficient funds to meet their needs.

00:12:02.000 They will close up for a week and then reopen.

00:12:06.000 Just took over the bank.

00:12:08.000 I may lose a fortune, but I am willing to guarantee your people, too.

00:12:14.000 Just tell them to bring their shares over here, and I will pay 50 cents on the dollar.

00:12:19.000 Boy, you never miss a trick, do you, Potter?

00:12:21.000 Unfortunately, J.P.

00:12:23.000 Morgan got away with the deception, and was able to shut down competitors and snapped up assets at fire sale prices.

00:12:29.000 Now, take during the Depression, for instance.

00:12:32.000 You and I were the only ones that kept our heads.

00:12:35.000 You saved a billion long, I saved all the rest.

00:12:39.000 Yes, well, most people say you stole all the rest.

00:12:42.000 The envious ones say that, George. 1.00

00:12:44.000 The suckers! 1.00

00:12:45.000 Charles Lindbergh Sr. 0.81

00:12:46.000 warned people at the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve that it would not stop booming bus cycles, but would actually create them in order to benefit its private owners.

00:12:55.000 Here's what he said.

00:12:56.000 To cause high prices, all the Federal Reserve Board will do will be to lower the re-discount rate.

00:13:01.000 Producing an expansion of credit and a rising stock market.

00:13:04.000 Then, when businessmen are adjusted to these conditions, it can check prosperity in mid-career by arbitrarily raising the rate of interest.

00:13:11.000 It can cause a pendulum of a rising and falling market to swing gently back and forth, or cause violent fluctuations by greater rate variation.

00:13:19.000 And in either case, it will possess inside information as to the financial conditions and advanced knowledge of the coming change, either up or down.

00:13:27.000 This is the strangest, most dangerous advantage ever placed in the hands of a special privileged class by any government that ever existed.

00:13:34.000 The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money.

00:13:41.000 They know in advance when to create panics to their advantage, and they know when to stop panic.

00:13:46.000 Inflation and deflation work equally well for them when they control the finance.

00:13:51.000 As we see in the movie, not all lending institutions have the same motivations.

00:13:57.000 Now, you take this loan here to Ernie Bishop.

00:14:00.000 You know, that fellow that sits around all day on his brains in his taxi, you know?

00:14:06.000 I happen to know the bank turned down this loan.

00:14:10.000 But he comes here, and we're building him a house worth $5,000!

00:14:17.000 Why?

00:14:18.000 Well, I handled that, Mr. Potter.

00:14:20.000 You have all the papers there, his salary, insurance.

00:14:22.000 I can personally vouch for his character.

00:14:24.000 Friend of yours?

00:14:25.000 Yes, sir.

00:14:27.000 You see, if you shoot pool with some employee here, you can come and borrow money.

00:14:33.000 What does that get us?

00:14:35.000 A discontented, lazy rabble instead of a thrifty working class. 1.00

00:14:40.000 As a former FDIC chair said, all too often the large banks use their models and their algorithms and if you don't fit in their boxes, you don't get the loan.

00:14:48.000 And Dodd-Frank legislation is tying the hands of small lenders, shutting out buyers and shutting down lenders.

00:14:54.000 Today there are fewer lenders than at any time the government has kept records.

00:14:58.000 10,000 banks disappeared between 1984 and 2011.

00:14:59.000 This town needs this measly one-horse institution if only to have some place where people can come without crawling the potter. 0.62

00:15:09.000 In the movie, George gets to see what happens to the small town if Potter didn't have competition from credit unions and smaller lenders.

00:15:16.000 If it hadn't been for you... Yeah, if it hadn't been for me, everybody would be a lot better off.

00:15:20.000 My wife and my kids and my friends and my... Look, little fella, why don't you go off and haunt somebody else? 0.99

00:15:26.000 Yeah, so you still think killing yourself would make everyone feel happier, eh? 0.99

00:15:32.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:15:33.000 I guess you're right.

00:15:36.000 It's both been better if I'd never been born at all.

00:15:39.000 The only businesses thriving are vice.

00:15:42.000 People are angry.

00:15:43.000 The town is filled with signs like, keep moving, keep off the grass.

00:15:47.000 Bert the cop actually shoots at George when he's running away and is no threat to anyone.

00:15:51.000 one.

00:15:52.000 Stand back!

00:15:53.000 Pottersville, everyone is a renter, no one has a stake.

00:16:01.000 Now you're Arnie Bishop and you live in Bailey Park with your wife and kid.

00:16:04.000 Look bud, what's the idea?

00:16:05.000 I live in a shack in Pottersville.

00:16:07.000 My wife ran away three years ago and took the kid and I ain't never seen you before in my life, see?

00:16:11.000 Private property and everyone having a stake is the antidote to Pottersville.

00:16:16.000 Here, you're all businessmen here.

00:16:18.000 Doesn't make them better citizens, doesn't make them better customers.

00:16:21.000 But whether it's the Trans-Pacific Partnership or a global carbon tax, the global elite don't see you as a stakeholder.

00:16:27.000 They want to turn us all into serfs and treat us like cattle. 0.83

00:16:31.000 Just remember this, Mr. Potter, that this rabble you're talking about, they do most of the working and paying and living and dying in this community. 0.98

00:16:39.000 Well, is it too much to have them work and pay and live and die in a couple of decent rooms and a bath?

00:16:43.000 Anyway, my father didn't think so.

00:16:46.000 People were human beings to him, but to you, a warped, frustrated old man, they're cattle.

00:16:51.000 Well, in my book, he died a much richer man than you'll ever be.

00:16:54.000 I'm not interested in your book.

00:16:56.000 I'm talking about the building and loan.

00:16:58.000 I know very well what you're talking about.

00:17:00.000 You're talking about something you can't get your fingers on.

00:17:03.000 Speaking of riches, do you find the salary amounts amusing when Potter tries to buy George off?

00:17:08.000 Let's look at your side.

00:17:10.000 Young man, 27, 28, married.

00:17:16.000 Make me say 40 a week.

00:17:17.000 George, I'll start you out at $20,000 a year.

00:17:17.000 45.

00:17:20.000 George, I'll start you out at $20,000 a year.

00:17:25.000 $20,000 a year?

00:17:32.000 You wouldn't mind living in the nicest house in town?

00:17:36.000 Buying your wife a lot of fine clothes?

00:17:39.000 A couple of business trips to New York a year?

00:17:42.000 Maybe once in a while Europe?

00:17:44.000 You wouldn't mind that, would you, John?

00:17:45.000 Would I?

00:17:46.000 Even if George had saved a lot of his $20,000 salary, would it have bought much a couple of decades later?

00:17:53.000 By even the government's very conservative estimate of inflation, the dollar has lost 90% of its value since 1947, when the movie was made.

00:18:01.000 The Fed's deliberate inflation is devastating to anyone trying to accumulate wealth through hard work and saving.

00:18:08.000 So what is the answer to all the George Baileys out there a hundred years after the government gave control of our money supply to private bankers like Potter?

00:18:15.000 Well, Potter had more money than he could spend, but would any of you want to be Potter?

00:18:21.000 You sit around here and you spin your little webs and you think the whole world revolves around you and your money.

00:18:26.000 Well, it doesn't, Mr. Potter.

00:18:28.000 In the whole vast configuration of things, I'd say you were nothing but a scurvy little spider.

00:18:33.000 George Bailey finally sees how rich his own life is, as he sees the fruits of relationship, honesty, and compassion.

00:18:41.000 Hey! 0.99

00:18:43.000 Merry Christmas, Mr. Barr!

00:18:45.000 Happy New Year to you!

00:18:47.000 In jail!

00:18:48.000 Go on home, they're waiting for you!

00:18:51.000 And if the public can awaken to the lies of the Federal Reserve...

00:18:54.000 If it could even be audited... Well, hello, Mr. Bank Examiner!

00:18:58.000 It would be a huge step to breaking the chains that enslave all of us.

00:19:02.000 But ultimately, it is God that changes minds and changes hearts.

00:19:06.000 God hates oppression, and we can and should confidently pray that he will stop it.

00:19:12.000 I owe everything to George Bailey.

00:19:15.000 Help him, dear father.

00:19:17.000 Joseph, Jesus, and Mary, help my friend, Mr. Bailey.

00:19:23.000 Help my son George tonight?

00:19:27.000 He never thinks about himself, God.

00:19:29.000 That's why he's in trouble.

00:19:31.000 George is a good guy.

00:19:32.000 Give him a break, God.

00:19:35.000 I love him, dear Lord.

00:19:37.000 Watch over him tonight.

00:19:38.000 Please, God!

00:19:40.000 Something's the matter with Daddy!

00:19:43.000 Please bring Daddy back!

00:19:46.000 dear father in heaven, I'm not a praying man but if you're up there and you can hear me, show me the way.

00:20:02.000 For the InfoWars Nightly News, I'm David Knight.

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00:24:17.000 Racist!

00:24:18.000 Defending the Republic from enemies, foreign and domestic. 0.75

00:24:30.000 It's Alex Jones.

00:24:33.000 Look, I'll just be honest with everybody.

00:24:35.000 This is a short segment, you know, five, six minutes long.

00:24:37.000 I wanted to do some type of play on words about the police state and Obama and the New World Order with the night before Christmas.

00:24:45.000 But I'm out of time, so I'm just going to read it and then make comments after each paragraph.

00:24:49.000 I barely have time here.

00:24:50.000 But here it is on this Christmas Eve edition.

00:24:54.000 Well, even being able to read under Common Core is kind of racist.

00:24:56.000 2 plus 3 equals 5, and there's no spelling, so maybe I can't even read this.

00:25:00.000 Maybe that's actually the answer to comment on it.

00:25:03.000 Twas the night before Christmas.

00:25:04.000 Ooh, that's kind of Old English sounding.

00:25:06.000 That's racist.

00:25:07.000 Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house.

00:25:11.000 Ooh, a house isn't good.

00:25:12.000 You can't have single-parent dwellings under agenda 21.

00:25:16.000 No, no, you can't do that at all.

00:25:18.000 So it should be, it was the night before X-mas or, or governmentists, worshipers went all through the 200 square foot coffin facility where they raise the taxes so high up you can't even afford anything bigger in the mega compact city as I was dying from cancer from the New World Order soft killing me.

00:25:35.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:25:37.000 "'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.

00:25:43.000 The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in hopes that St.

00:25:47.000 Nicholas, uh, uh, ahem, ahem, Santa Claus, you don't say St.

00:25:51.000 Nicholas, see they've erased that, you can't have religion anywhere, even personally, it's bigoted, so I'm gonna say, in the hopes that the guy that Coca-Cola advertises and sells their chemical weapon diet Coke would appear.

00:26:04.000 The children were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of Prozac and Ritalin danced in their brain-damaged heads.

00:26:12.000 And Mama in her kerchief and I in my cap, uh-uh, mother and father hurts people that don't come from regular families, so you can't say that.

00:26:19.000 When Mama and Mama, when Mama in her kerchief and Mama in her cap had just settled our brains for a long winter's nap.

00:26:27.000 You don't need naps now with all the speed drugs they've got.

00:26:31.000 So, as we settled our brains for a nice convulsion, electroshock therapy, and black helicopters, and chemtrails.

00:26:37.000 Trendy, trendy, trendy!

00:26:38.000 There you go.

00:26:38.000 This is more modern now.

00:26:39.000 I've only gotten through three paragraphs.

00:26:41.000 There's like 15 more.

00:26:43.000 The moon on the breast of the new fallen snow.

00:26:48.000 We got even record snow.

00:26:49.000 Al Gore says the North Pole melted.

00:26:51.000 It's true.

00:26:52.000 So there can't be snow if everything melted.

00:26:53.000 Even if I see snow in record cold, it doesn't exist.

00:26:55.000 Because Al Gore said it didn't exist.

00:26:57.000 There you go.

00:26:58.000 The moon on the breast of the new fallen melted snow gave the luster of midday to objects below.

00:27:06.000 You know that of a full moon shining off snow?

00:27:09.000 Oh my god, so beautiful.

00:27:10.000 But you can't have beautiful literary things in Ingsoc, so this is banned under 1984.

00:27:17.000 When what to my wondering eyes should appear, you shouldn't be looking outside, you should be watching television.

00:27:24.000 But a miniature sleigh and eight tiny reindeer.

00:27:28.000 Oh, that's animals in bondage.

00:27:31.000 That should be banned. 0.53

00:27:32.000 All animals that have been domesticated should be banned under PETA.

00:27:35.000 This is racist.

00:27:37.000 When a little old driver... Well, you can't call somebody old.

00:27:41.000 That makes old people feel bad. 1.00

00:27:43.000 When a little old driver so lively and quick, I knew in a moment it must be Saint Nick.

00:27:48.000 There goes that thing about being a saint again.

00:27:51.000 This is outrageous! 0.68

00:27:53.000 The Catholic Church should pay for abortions in all their churches! 1.00

00:27:56.000 Oh, my racism! 0.98

00:27:58.000 Or whatever you call it.

00:28:00.000 More rapid than eagles, his coursers they came, and as he whistled and shouted, and they called them by name.

00:28:09.000 Oh my goodness.

00:28:10.000 Now Dasher, now Dancer, now Prancer, now Vixen.

00:28:15.000 That's sexist to call it a vixen.

00:28:17.000 On Comet, on Cupid.

00:28:19.000 That's religious too.

00:28:21.000 On Donner and Blitzen, to the top of the porch, to the top of the wall, now dash away, dash away, dash away all!

00:28:32.000 As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, when they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky.

00:28:39.000 So up to the housetop, the coursers they flew, with the sleigh full of toys, and St.

00:28:46.000 Nicholas too.

00:28:48.000 Oh my gosh.

00:28:49.000 They've got their own house.

00:28:50.000 They like St.

00:28:51.000 Nicholas.

00:28:52.000 What do you want to bet? 1.00

00:28:53.000 They're white and they're racist. 0.99

00:28:55.000 And then in a twinkling, I heard on the roof. 0.98

00:28:59.000 That's against, by the way, zoning to have reindeer on a roof.

00:29:02.000 I want to call the police immediately.

00:29:04.000 You know, neighbors nowadays would call the police.

00:29:06.000 The prancing and pawing of each little hoof.

00:29:10.000 And as I drew in my head and was turning around, down the chimney, St.

00:29:14.000 Nicholas came with a bound.

00:29:16.000 How much time do I have left in this segment?

00:29:20.000 We're going out to break.

00:29:20.000 15 seconds, folks.

00:29:22.000 I'll have to cover the rest of this tomorrow because we got a special guest coming on about the rise of the robots.

00:29:29.000 It's forbidden Christmas.

00:29:31.000 It's bad news.

00:29:33.000 And we apologize for this blasphemy against the New World Order's god, Baphomet, the old serpent, the devil, and his baby Krampus.

00:29:46.000 Oh dear. .

00:29:59.000 We're on the march.

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00:33:08.000 I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

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00:33:38.000 We're going to be joined in just a minute by Dr. Noel Sharkey.

00:33:41.000 He's going to talk to us about his campaign to stop killer robots.

00:33:45.000 Tell you why you should be concerned about this rapid advance in technology and how it could be potentially abused into a very destructive weapon.

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00:35:47.000 Now we're joined right now with Dr. Noel Sharkey.

00:35:50.000 We were concerned that we might not be able to get him.

00:35:52.000 He is traveling the globe trying to wake people up to the dangers and the abuses of robotics technology.

00:35:59.000 He's actually a professor of artificial intelligence and robotics and he has now, after he had kind of an epiphany, we're gonna let him tell you about it, I won't try to describe it, his core research interest is now in the ethical applications of robotics and artificial intelligence.

00:36:15.000 Dr. Sharkey, can you hear me?

00:36:17.000 I can hear you very clearly, David.

00:36:19.000 Hello.

00:36:19.000 Great, great.

00:36:20.000 So you found Wi-Fi in that monastery?

00:36:22.000 Yes, I did.

00:36:25.000 That's great.

00:36:26.000 Tell us a little bit about your epiphany.

00:36:29.000 When you went from, you were working in robotics, you were very much interested in the technology of it, but like so many of us who work in engineering or technology, you didn't realize exactly some of the dark ways it was being used.

00:36:42.000 No I didn't.

00:36:43.000 I had my head in a bag kind of thing just getting on with my research.

00:36:50.000 I was at a press conference in London about a government report on talking about robots worrying about housing benefits for robots of the future.

00:37:00.000 It was kind of a nutty report and it was the first report our government had put out about robotics.

00:37:04.000 And at the press conference Some journalist said to me, well can you tell us a little bit about military robots?

00:37:11.000 And of course I knew nothing about it.

00:37:14.000 Apart from a little bit about bomb disposal because I'm from Northern Ireland and we know a bit about bomb disposal.

00:37:22.000 I'd go off for the evening and just have a quick look at the internet, you know, an hour or so, sort of answer questions.

00:37:28.000 Seven months later, I finished that little look at the internet.

00:37:32.000 Having read, you know, through all the US plans from 2001 right up to the present of the time, which was five years, six years of plans for All the US forces, the roadmaps, and they were all talking about the application of autonomous robots for killing people.

00:37:49.000 And I just thought this is ridiculous the way they were talking about it.

00:37:53.000 It was like science fiction.

00:37:55.000 They didn't seem to have an idea about the limitations.

00:37:58.000 And so I wrote an article for the Guardian newspaper in the UK then 2007 and it started there and it's been a whirlwind since.

00:38:08.000 I find it very alarming because I look at every week we see some kind of new robotic technology.

00:38:15.000 They're spinning it.

00:38:17.000 in the media as saying that these are the Pentagon's rescue robots.

00:38:21.000 I don't think that DARPA is really funding rescue operations.

00:38:24.000 I don't think the Pentagon's really funding that.

00:38:26.000 If anybody thinks that, after looking at the way they're using drones to assassinate people all over the world, they need to have their head examined.

00:38:33.000 That's some of the most obvious propaganda I've ever seen.

00:38:37.000 The media should be ashamed of itself for putting out these killer robots, these potential, these robotic projects that are being put out by The Defense Advanced Research Projects, DARPA.

00:38:47.000 DARPA has a research budget that is higher than they've got for the entire budget of North Korea.

00:38:55.000 We're supposed to be concerned about North Korea, yet North Korea's entire economy is about the same size as the DARPA research budget.

00:39:02.000 And DARPA is constantly, this seems to be their primary focus.

00:39:06.000 Well, Darby aren't accountable, so their thing, and it's a good research agenda, their agenda is you just keep funding everything that's even slightly crazy, and as long as one of them comes up and, you know, comes up trumps, then you're okay.

00:39:21.000 But I was laughing there because one of the...

00:39:24.000 Reports I read from DARPA about these humanoid robots that are going to, they're going to carry wrenches and they talk about them going ahead of the forces.

00:39:34.000 Well why would you have a pile of humanoid robots going ahead of the forces with wrenches?

00:39:38.000 Are they going to undo people's water pipes?

00:39:42.000 You know, fix the broken tanks.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, here's the headline.

00:39:45.000 This 6-foot, 330-pound robot may one day save your life.

00:39:49.000 That's talking about the Atlas robot.

00:39:51.000 And the troubling thing is, is that when the Atlas robot came out, I looked at it, I thought it was very frightening the way that this thing is able to move around.

00:39:58.000 And the fact that it has these two long arms that essentially look like cylinders, where I could imagine them being guns of some sort.

00:40:05.000 And Ray Kurzweil comes out and says, that's great, now all he needs is a brain so he can act autonomously.

00:40:11.000 Oh God, yeah, that's really bad.

00:40:14.000 I think you're right, though.

00:40:15.000 I can see it.

00:40:16.000 The cylinders are going to become machine guns.

00:40:18.000 I would say it's no doubt about that at all.

00:40:21.000 Maybe not for a while, but that would be the general plan, I would think.

00:40:27.000 Why would DARPA be spending money on rescuing people when they've been in the business of rescue ever?

00:40:34.000 Yeah, and then we have these articles that are coming out now.

00:40:36.000 This is about a year ago.

00:40:37.000 This is from Wired's Danger Room.

00:40:39.000 It says the Pentagon doesn't trust its own robots.

00:40:42.000 They say that there's a cloud of distrust and misunderstanding hovering over robots that the Pentagon already has.

00:40:47.000 So they're looking at this and they're evaluating this and they don't really like it.

00:40:50.000 So we've got to conduct a media media campaign to change the public's mind to change the military's mind you're pushing back in the opposite direction and we understand that the military industrial complex wants this very badly they see this as a brand new profit center i'm very very concerned about the lack of accountability that is going to happen with these killer robots can you address that yes i mean you're right about the the profits I mean, just in terms of the drones, which we know about already.

00:41:18.000 I mean, Israel made 4.8 billion in the last five years profit on those.

00:41:24.000 And the competition is so stiff.

00:41:26.000 So the idea is that you've got all the drones, how do you compete in that big market?

00:41:31.000 And the way you compete is let's add autonomy to it.

00:41:34.000 Let's make them work work on their own, and then we can make a lot more money. 0.99

00:41:38.000 And what we're trying to do is we're trying to preemptively ban them.

00:41:41.000 That means ban them before they get out and before there's too much investment, because once billions of dollars have been spent on it, it's going to be very difficult.

00:41:50.000 Yes, yes.

00:41:51.000 We're making very good headway at the UN, actually.

00:41:55.000 Well, that's good.

00:41:56.000 I'm glad that you're going around and you're addressing the press, you're addressing governments, you're pointing out to them where this could head.

00:42:02.000 I see this.

00:42:03.000 You know, when we're talking about nuclear war, if some government presses the button and launches a bunch of nuclear weapons on someone, There's going to be literally hell to pay for that.

00:42:12.000 There's going to be accountability for that.

00:42:15.000 But if they take a bunch of killer robots, as we've already seen with drones, we've seen how they can go in with drones, they can destroy a village, and there's no accountability.

00:42:21.000 Nobody is held responsible for that.

00:42:23.000 And it'll even be easier for them once these robots have...

00:42:28.000 Self-autonomy.

00:42:29.000 They can basically say that they've got plausible deniability.

00:42:32.000 They can say, well, the software went wrong on it or it was a hardware bug.

00:42:35.000 It wasn't me.

00:42:36.000 It wasn't the president.

00:42:37.000 It wasn't the general.

00:42:38.000 It wasn't the lieutenant.

00:42:40.000 It was just these, this crazy technology.

00:42:42.000 So we'll fix it.

00:42:42.000 Meanwhile, they've killed a lot of people.

00:42:45.000 And I can see them using this domestically as well as abroad.

00:42:48.000 So if you think that this is something... Historically, governments have killed more of their own people than they've killed in other countries.

00:42:54.000 It's called democide.

00:42:55.000 So if you think this is something that is simply going to be used against these people on the other side of the world that you don't like, you need to wake up about that as well.

00:43:03.000 I think really do.

00:43:04.000 And the thing is, what the United States and the high-tech nations like the UK, they have a problem understanding that this stuff will proliferate and everyone will have it.

00:43:14.000 And then where are we going to be?

00:43:16.000 And that's my biggest worry, is this idea that we'll keep ahead of the technology, we'll be the ones who'll use it, without thinking at all that everybody else is going to have it and they will all interact together and then it's going to be a real mess.

00:43:29.000 We've already seen countries like Iran setting up their own drones.

00:43:33.000 They're not that technologically advanced.

00:43:35.000 It didn't take them that long to get drones.

00:43:37.000 It's not going to take them long to get robots.

00:43:38.000 This is something, and what we're concerned about here, I have to say, Dr. Sharkey, we have a little bit different situation in the U.S.

00:43:45.000 is unique in the sense that now we have this massive program of bringing home weapons that have been used in Iraq, And putting them in police departments here in America.

00:43:56.000 And we're already concerned about the fact that humans themselves are not being held accountable for their actions when they fire on a child with a toy gun.

00:44:06.000 What's going to happen when a robot does that?

00:44:07.000 Do you think there's going to be accountability for that?

00:44:10.000 Do you really think the United States police will start?

00:44:13.000 I mean, they certainly talk about arming robots with tasers.

00:44:18.000 That would be a start for it.

00:44:20.000 But tasers are kind of deadly.

00:44:22.000 I mean, 150 people died in the US within a period of two years from taser abuse.

00:44:27.000 So if you start arming robots with tasers, then I think it's only a short step to arming them with weapons, really.

00:44:33.000 With lethal weapons.

00:44:36.000 They're very horrible non, quote-unquote, non-lethal weapons.

00:44:39.000 Very horrible ones.

00:44:40.000 It's not just tasers.

00:44:41.000 They have all kinds of things that they can beam at you to make you sick, to blind you, that sort of thing.

00:44:46.000 We just had, you talked about how they kill people.

00:44:48.000 We've got a teenager right here just south of Austin that was tasered by a cop in a school who was standing there, standing around a fight, and didn't get out of the way in time.

00:44:57.000 The cop tasered him, fell down and cracked his head.

00:44:59.000 He's now in a coma.

00:45:00.000 They believe he may die.

00:45:01.000 That happens all the time with tasers.

00:45:03.000 So when you talk about non-lethal force, you talk about shooting people with rubber bullets, you talk about using these gases on people, that's not something that we're looking forward to seeing happen in terms of crowd control.

00:45:15.000 That can be very, very oppressive.

00:45:17.000 Yes, but you don't have to worry too much because everyone just stopped it.

00:45:23.000 Good, good.

00:45:24.000 So tell us about your campaign.

00:45:26.000 You're going around and you're talking to different governments.

00:45:29.000 I guess you're having public speeches where you're trying to inform the public.

00:45:33.000 How is your press coverage?

00:45:35.000 Well, press coverage has been very good.

00:45:37.000 But we had a breakthrough recently at the United Nations.

00:45:41.000 There's a committee at the United Nations called the CCW.

00:45:46.000 And that's the place where poisonous gases get banned, biological weapons.

00:45:51.000 It's got banned chemical weapons, so that's the place for prohibiting new weapons.

00:45:55.000 And we spoke to the, the French have just taken up the presidency, and we spoke to the French ambassador, then we spoke to the US delegation, and they've agreed with us that they would put this forward as a mandate for discussion in the UN.

00:46:11.000 And last Friday, Friday two weeks ago, They had 117 nations from the CCW met and one of those nations could be to it.

00:46:22.000 Russia were there, China were there, there was a massive discussion and they accepted the mandate so next year the CCW committee are setting up an expert workshop to take this on board and discuss it.

00:46:35.000 Well that's great.

00:46:36.000 And your campaign is stopkillerrobots.org.

00:46:40.000 They can learn about that on the internet.

00:46:42.000 www.stopkillerrobots.org.

00:46:44.000 It's a campaign to stop killer robots.

00:46:46.000 Now you've taken this to the UN, you've taken it to other countries.

00:46:49.000 I'm a little bit more skeptical of the UN and these other countries.

00:46:52.000 Hopefully they will ban this and hopefully these other countries won't secretly develop this.

00:46:57.000 On their own, worried that they're going to have some kind of a robot gap or something like that, like they've had weapons defensively do it because they're afraid the other guy might do it.

00:47:07.000 My big concern, and I think your campaign will be very effective at this as well, and that is to address the engineers and the scientists.

00:47:15.000 To try to get them to understand, because that, I believe, is where we really need to go.

00:47:20.000 As long as there's an engineer or a scientist who will develop this kind of stuff for pay, who doesn't look at the ethics of their work, you're going to find some kind of a politician or a dictator somewhere who will do it, who will use those people, who will pay them large amounts of money, and who will break any treaty that comes up, won't you?

00:47:38.000 Well, the problem is, it's mainly the U.S.

00:47:41.000 because they're a bit more cautious in Europe.

00:47:43.000 In the U.S., it's very difficult to not get funded by the military.

00:47:48.000 Most of the robotics labs are run by the military, are funded by the military, and people aren't necessarily making weapons and things, but when you're funded by the military, it stops you speaking up.

00:47:59.000 It stops you speaking up against it.

00:48:02.000 I mean, there was a professional magazine in the US called The Engineer, and they ran a poll of the readership asking how many people would go for a complete ban, or how many people would just go for trying to make the weapons more perfect over time.

00:48:20.000 Only 3% of the readership said they would make the weapons go more perfect over time, and 73% said there should be a total ban.

00:48:32.000 Consciousness of it.

00:48:33.000 That's very helpful because so many times we'll talk to directly Alex will talk to soldiers and policemen over the radio and say understand that the kind of society that you allow to happen if you allow and are part of this kind of abuse that we see happening in the streets that's going to be the society that you live that could be your family that is brought under that and historically we've seen that always does happen It can't be contained and only limited to people who don't work for the government.

00:49:01.000 We need to have that kind of awareness with engineers.

00:49:04.000 And as you pointed out, it's very difficult in America to get a job, if you're an engineer, that doesn't involve the military-industrial complex.

00:49:12.000 I know when I got out, it took me a while to find a job where I wasn't working for the military.

00:49:17.000 That was my degree initially.

00:49:19.000 I understand that, and it's good that people privately say that, and I think, I really applaud you for what you're doing, because getting the information out there, people don't even believe that this could happen in so many cases.

00:49:31.000 They don't believe that the technology is there.

00:49:33.000 They think it's just the science fiction fantasy of the Terminator, and we've been criticized for that here, that we're talking about some wild thing.

00:49:41.000 Talk about the absolute, talk about how the technology is approaching rapidly.

00:49:48.000 Well, we've had 44 nations of the UN now speak up with concern.

00:49:52.000 So people better believe me now.

00:49:55.000 It's not science fiction anymore when you have major countries like the US, Germany, Pakistan even, you know, all speaking up against killer robots or about them.

00:50:05.000 So it's definitely on course to happen.

00:50:08.000 There's no question of that unless we stop it.

00:50:10.000 But you have to be very worried in the US as well about your private I mean, you've got the NSA there really doing a lot of nasty things, surveying people.

00:50:21.000 But you're starting to get a lot of drones, and once the drones become autonomous, not even armed, they can be everywhere.

00:50:27.000 They're getting very small.

00:50:30.000 What worries me is not the current government you have, but these are legacy systems, so what does the next government do with them?

00:50:38.000 What does the next government do with them?

00:50:40.000 Because they just inherit them directly.

00:50:42.000 And if you ever want to create an authoritarian regime, you're going to have the right tools to do it.

00:50:47.000 And that is a great concern to me as well.

00:50:50.000 This is military stuff.

00:50:51.000 You hit the nail on the head.

00:50:53.000 What we are building in the United States right now is a perfect infrastructure for tyranny.

00:50:57.000 And whether our current leadership uses it, or it's the next, or second administration down, that's what we're concerned about.

00:51:04.000 We're going to continue this discussion with Dr. Sharkey, and we're going to talk to him about what the current state of the art is.

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00:54:24.000 I'm David Nye filling in for Alex, and I have on the phone with us Dr. Noel Sharkey.

00:54:28.000 He is a professor of artificial intelligence and robotics, and his focus now is on the ethical application of those technologies.

00:54:37.000 We have him just for one more segment, only about four minutes, and Dr. Sharkey, what I would like for you to talk about in this segment is the state-of-the-art in robotics.

00:54:46.000 People don't understand how imminent this problem is, how rapidly it's coming upon us.

00:54:51.000 Could you address that?

00:54:53.000 Yes, certainly.

00:54:54.000 Well, we've got lots of armed robots on the ground and in the air, as you know, that are remote controlled.

00:55:01.000 But what's happening now is a very rapid development of platforms that will carry the weapons.

00:55:06.000 The more we talk in the campaign about banning these weapon systems, the more we're driving them underground, it seems.

00:55:14.000 There's less talk about it now.

00:55:16.000 But, for instance, in the United States, you've got three devices I'd like to mentioned to you.

00:55:21.000 One is called the X-47B and that can land on an air- it's a fighter jet, a combat, unmanned combat aircraft, fast subsonic, just beneath the speed of sound.

00:55:33.000 It can land on an aircraft carrier, it can take off from an aircraft carrier and it's going to be used in the Pacific.

00:55:41.000 It's got ten times the range of one of your F-35 fighter jets, so that's really productive for them.

00:55:47.000 And it's just been tested two weeks ago in very windy conditions, and that's working very well.

00:55:53.000 That will be weaponized and used.

00:55:55.000 So it's like a super drone, but you don't need people involved at all in controlling it.

00:56:00.000 You've also got a prototype system called the Crusher and that's developed by Carnegie Mellon and DARPA again of course.

00:56:07.000 Of course they are.

00:56:08.000 The Crusher is a seven and a half ton truck and you can see it on if anybody wants to go on YouTube and just do Crusher CMU they will find it and they'll see it crushing Cadillacs and it's got a big gun up there on top of it.

00:56:22.000 Now the other device that you're making in the United States is on the HTV-2 program, again DARPA, and they've got an aircraft called the Falcon, and the idea is to be able to get an unmanned combat aircraft anywhere on the planet Within a one hour window.

00:56:40.000 So this thing has been tested at 13,000 miles an hour.

00:56:44.000 So that's just the United States.

00:56:45.000 In the UK, we have the Tyrannus, which is actually supersonic, so it's even faster.

00:56:51.000 That's an intercontinental unmanned combat aircraft, fully autonomous, means that there's no human controlling it.

00:56:59.000 And that's been tested in Australia just in the last couple of months.

00:57:02.000 So these are progressing very quickly.

00:57:05.000 The Chinese have the invisible sword as the engine, and that's being designed and built for air-to-air combat. 1.00

00:57:12.000 Again, no human controlling it.

00:57:15.000 The Russians have the scat. 1.00

00:57:16.000 The Israelis are using one called the Guardian.

00:57:20.000 And at the beginning when they developed it, they talked a lot about it being fully autonomous to do routes and to fire on people at the borders between Palestine and Israel.

00:57:29.000 But now I spoke to an Israeli colleague the other day who was very excited because I had an early picture of it with guns on it.

00:57:36.000 And now they can't find any pictures of them with guns.

00:57:39.000 So I'm afraid we're driving these people underground a bit.

00:57:41.000 But they're still doing it.

00:57:42.000 Well, you know, we can understand very quickly the implications of something like the Crusher that's going to crush vehicles domestically.

00:57:49.000 Even when it comes to these supersonic jet transports that are taking off from aircraft carriers that are unmanned aerial vehicles that are remotely controlled, that has a lot of danger in the sense that that's going to make our already aggressive government starting wars everywhere for very little justification and without congressional authorization.

00:58:07.000 That's going to make them even more likely to get involved in these wars.

00:58:10.000 And there's this thing called blowback.

00:58:12.000 You know, once you start a war somewhere else, it will come home to you one way or the other eventually.

00:58:17.000 It may be asymmetric warfare.

00:58:19.000 It may be terrorism with people coming to your country and blowing people up in shopping malls, which will then be used to send out the crusher robots.

00:58:27.000 But thank you so much, Professor Sharkey, for joining us.

00:58:29.000 We're out of time.

00:58:30.000 Good luck on your campaign.

00:58:32.000 Keep trying to educate people about these dangers.

00:58:34.000 It's a very important thing you're doing.

00:58:36.000 Thank you for having me on and spreading the word for us.

00:58:38.000 Thank you very much.

00:58:39.000 Thank you very much.

00:58:40.000 That's StopKillerRobots.org.

00:58:42.000 We're going to be right back after the break with Leanne McAdoo, so stay tuned.

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01:00:29.000 Final segment with a few final calls with Max Keiser.

01:00:37.000 Then we're going to have another guest coming on.

01:00:39.000 We're going to go back to a few callers here and continue with others on in the next hour.

01:00:47.000 I guess Greg's up next and then Danny and a few... No, no, Danny's not up next.

01:00:53.000 It's William and then... I'm totally confused.

01:00:56.000 I know it's Greg.

01:00:57.000 I've seen he's been holding the longest.

01:00:58.000 And then it'll be Joe.

01:01:01.000 But Max Keiser, anything else you'd like to add?

01:01:05.000 Important points that you've forgotten to get out there to folks?

01:01:09.000 Well, you mentioned earlier the group of people.

01:01:12.000 I just want to reiterate this point.

01:01:14.000 Mark Faber and others are talking about 2014 being a watershed year, turning point in market chaos.

01:01:21.000 And I just want to reiterate that I'm putting my flag in the ground and saying that Bitcoin is the phenomenon happening this year.

01:01:32.000 And next year, we'll look back on 2013 and realize that Bitcoin was the black swan.

01:01:38.000 Bitcoin was the disruptive event that totally transformed the global economy.

01:01:42.000 And we won't be able to make that statement until this time next year, looking back and say that's truly what happened.

01:01:49.000 But I just want to make sure I go on record as saying that I believe that all those people are correct, but I believe they're missing the true elephant in the room, and that is Bitcoin.

01:02:00.000 They're missing the Bitcoin factor.

01:02:02.000 I believe they are because they sense that there is this epic change coming.

01:02:08.000 I've talked about it on your show many times, as many have, but I think that the emergence of cryptography as it has changed the surveillance industry, changed the global alliances, is bleeding into currencies, and that's a huge event.

01:02:21.000 It's the biggest event in currencies in hundreds of years.

01:02:25.000 Well, when you've got 85 to 1, 100 to 1, 200 to 1, profit to loss ratios uh or or or you got stock ratios where the company's making no money but it's valued a hundred times its supposed profits uh we're in deep trouble here's that dave stockman clip that we talked about from bloomberg and the thing is now what we talk about is even invading uh dinosaur media here it is all right if ever i had a guy

01:02:49.000 you're my budget guy tell me your impressions after combing through some of the numbers of what has been put forth by have both parties yet to be voted on. - Well first, let's be clear.

01:03:00.000 It's a joke and a betrayal.

01:03:02.000 It's the final surrender of the House Republican leadership to beltway politics and to kicking the can and ignoring this budget monster that's hurtling down the road.

01:03:13.000 They're busting the caps, and it's totally unnecessary.

01:03:17.000 It's going to add $70 billion to spending this year and next year, and then they're going to pretend to save it in 22 and 23 way, way down the road.

01:03:27.000 Let me actually read what he said here.

01:03:30.000 He said on Bloomberg, it's in our article, Market Valuation Has Lost Every Anchor in the Real World.

01:03:37.000 He wanted to say that this kind of speculative frost that you get at the top of the cycle, where valuation loses any anchor in the real world, that video is up on InfoWars.com.

01:03:47.000 This is what we're talking about here.

01:03:49.000 So, they can't criticize Bitcoin, claiming it's not connected to anything, when what they're pushing is connected to a bunch of debt that we know has negative value and was based in fraud, Max Keiser.

01:03:59.000 Well, they're basing their analysis or their value structure is tied to fiat money, and that money by definition has no intrinsic value at all.

01:04:08.000 The dollars in your pocket are worthless, except for the paper that they're not printed on, as Gerald Salenti likes to say.

01:04:14.000 The Bitcoin, however, by comparison, is as you'd have to make the comparison to gold or silver.

01:04:19.000 It has real, genuine, intrinsic value, and there has value on top of that as a means of exchange and as a store of value.

01:04:25.000 But he's absolutely correct.

01:04:27.000 Stock market and the bond market in particular, that's the key, is trading at 300-year highs in the UK and trading at 240-year highs in the United States.

01:04:34.000 We're out of time, Max.

01:04:35.000 Will it completely go 1929, or what will the ongoing implosion look like?

01:04:40.000 Slow masses or frightening?

01:04:42.000 Buy Bitcoin.

01:04:43.000 That's my answer.

01:04:45.000 I know, but I understand you've said that, but I mean, how bad do you think it's going to get?

01:04:50.000 It's either going to be a complete and utter write-down of this bad debt and a deflationary depression, or they're going to go be like China and print a trillion dollars a month and it's hyperinflation.

01:05:00.000 And I think the answer is hyperinflation.

01:05:02.000 I don't think they're going to take their foot off the accelerator.

01:05:04.000 Max Keiser, thanks for the time.

01:05:05.000 We'll talk to you soon.

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01:08:40.000 Because we ran out of time with Max Keiser.

01:08:43.000 But Stefan Molyneux can speak on basically any subject.

01:08:45.000 That's why I like watching his shows online or listening to them.

01:08:49.000 Because it's thought-provoking and I know a lot of history.

01:08:51.000 So I can tell when somebody's got a wide-ranging knowledge.

01:08:54.000 Not that anybody knows that much.

01:08:56.000 There's so much info in the world.

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01:08:59.000 How much you don't know, And then it's frightening to see the content public and establishment believing they know so much and see knowledge as a threat to their delusions.

01:09:09.000 But Stefan Molyneux is the founder of Freedom Domain Radio, the largest, most popular philosophical show in the world, with more than 2,400 podcasts.

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01:09:50.000 Stefan is the author of two novels, Revolutions and The God of Atheists, as well as eight non-fiction books on relationships, government, and religion.

01:10:00.000 And he's with us for the rest of the hour.

01:10:02.000 I got a bunch of news I want to cover with him randomly.

01:10:05.000 You know, stuff that's broken today to get his take on different topics.

01:10:08.000 You know, different angles of things and...

01:10:11.000 As someone, I guess, who identifies as an atheist, I'm not mad at him or upset at him, because he's a libertarian-minded person and believes in human liberty, and I agree with so much of what he has to say.

01:10:26.000 So many times I see atheists and they're statists. 1.00

01:10:28.000 In fact, I would say on average most, at least the atheists I know and run into, they're big-time statists. 0.58

01:10:33.000 They think the state is God.

01:10:34.000 They've really created just another God.

01:10:37.000 And my whole argument is, even if you don't believe in spiritual realms, or, you know, the eye can only see a tiny fraction of what's actually going on out there, we know there's a lot of mysteries in the universe, even if you don't believe in God, I like the Bill of Rights and Constitution because it has a higher power and people are on top than the states under us.

01:10:55.000 Well, the state always wants to get up there where God is above us.

01:10:58.000 I don't want to get into an atheist debate here with Stefan.

01:11:01.000 I just wanted to throw out that, uh, People say, well, you had a Jew on your show, or you had an atheist, or you had a Catholic, you had a Protestant.

01:11:10.000 I'm not getting into all this infighting.

01:11:13.000 About what group somebody's in or what group they identify.

01:11:15.000 I identify with wanting to have a planet that survives, a good future, and my children having a good future, and I'm a fan of humanity.

01:11:24.000 And in Devil's Advocate, they have the devil character, played by Al Pacino, say, I'm a fan of man.

01:11:29.000 Well, the archetypal devil, in a Jungian way, wants to kill, steal, and destroy, and is not a fan of man, God's creation, made in God's image as a little creator.

01:11:41.000 So, the devil doesn't want you to succeed.

01:11:46.000 Isn't a fan of man.

01:11:47.000 It is a predatory system, not a virtuous economic model, as Max Keiser was talking about, but a vicious economic model where you enslave people to control them.

01:11:59.000 And so Stefan joins us.

01:12:00.000 There's so much to get into.

01:12:02.000 I want to get into a new vigil ad for one of these stimulant drugs they're pushing because it's so hilarious.

01:12:08.000 The video that goes along with it and get his take at the bottom of the hour on that and take calls.

01:12:12.000 I want to get into Obamacare.

01:12:15.000 The open collapse of the establishment with Al-Qaeda publicly working for the U.S.

01:12:19.000 government and NATO now.

01:12:20.000 What does that do to their narrative?

01:12:21.000 I want to get into where he thinks the world's going with China.

01:12:24.000 Because we know when governments get in trouble, they start big wars.

01:12:27.000 Well, you can't do that anymore.

01:12:28.000 They have nuclear weapons.

01:12:29.000 So, there's so much to talk about.

01:12:31.000 But, Stefan, out of the gates, what do you want to talk about first?

01:12:35.000 Or do you want to respond to anything I just said?

01:12:39.000 Well, I agree with you about, I call them statheists, or rather I want people to be statheists, which is to not believe in the state.

01:12:46.000 There's this horrible thing that happens in history, as I'm sure you're aware.

01:12:50.000 It's sort of like you have a balloon and you push one side of the balloon in and the other side bulges out.

01:12:55.000 If you look at the atheistic political philosophies like communism, they may carve out a deity from the hierarchy of human thought and then like a giant vacuum vacuum, state power rushes in to replace that.

01:13:08.000 So I think that it's actually more dangerous, much more dangerous to replace religion with the state, which seems to be the default position of most people who have secular concerns.

01:13:17.000 They tend to be socialists.

01:13:19.000 There's that traditional alignment of the left with agnosticism or atheism.

01:13:23.000 You know, you may believe in religion, I may not believe in religion, but neither of us get to use the state to impose our will on the other.

01:13:30.000 But when you get people who believe in the state, it becomes this massive sword of Damocles that you use to flatten the aspirations and potential of everyone else around you.

01:13:39.000 So, I completely agree.

01:13:41.000 You know, live and let live as far as personal belief goes.

01:13:43.000 But when people cross the border into wanting to wield political power, which comes more from the left than from the right, then we have great grounds for significant disagreement.

01:13:53.000 Well, as a guy that studies trends in history, where are we right now?

01:13:57.000 I mean, my gut tells me that Ron Paul was on yesterday.

01:13:59.000 He concurred.

01:14:00.000 We're at the crossroads right now.

01:14:02.000 Do you concur with that?

01:14:03.000 And what do we do during this flux point where more change happens in a decade than happens in the next hundred years?

01:14:09.000 What do we do?

01:14:12.000 I agree with Ron Paul.

01:14:14.000 I agree with you.

01:14:15.000 We are.

01:14:15.000 It is now or never.

01:14:16.000 I think this point in human history is the fulcrum.

01:14:19.000 It is now or never.

01:14:20.000 You ever played this game when you were a kid?

01:14:22.000 You have a sort of slide, a teeter-totter, and you sort of walk up one end and then it tips, you go down the other.

01:14:27.000 I think we're at that tipping point.

01:14:29.000 As far as what we do?

01:14:30.000 Well, most people have no ethical standards whatsoever.

01:14:34.000 That doesn't mean that they're evil or they're out there strangling hobos or anything.

01:14:37.000 It just means that they go with whatever is most comfortable.

01:14:41.000 Right, so if the media says, hey, Nelson Mandela is a hero, then everyone flies out and takes their self-pictures, smiling away at the funeral, and they call him a hero.

01:14:49.000 They'll just say whatever people tell them to.

01:14:52.000 You need the government for protection.

01:14:53.000 Our foreign policy is noble.

01:14:54.000 We're going to bring democracy to Iraq.

01:14:57.000 Whatever people hear that is convincing, that's what they will believe.

01:15:00.000 They just do what is most comfortable.

01:15:02.000 I think the goal, and this is all the way back to Socrates, the goal of thinkers is to make it more uncomfortable to be a conformist than to be an independent thinker.

01:15:13.000 Right now, it's pretty comfortable to be a conformist, to believe that the government is going to help you and the war on terror is justified, and, you know, we were defending freedoms all around the world.

01:15:21.000 If that's comfortable, nobody's going to really get upset with you about that.

01:15:24.000 I think that we really need to work to make it less comfortable to be a conformist, to hit people with information and perspectives that are going to throw them out of the matrix, push their face into the static of propaganda that they've been bathed in since virtually the day they were born.

01:15:39.000 We have to keep pushing people off balance and making them uncomfortable so that then when they're going with the flow, it's actually uncomfortable for them rather than comfortable, And that is really based upon the willingness to just be annoying to people and to consistently remind them that truth, reason, virtue and evidence is how we make decisions, not the political momentum of a dead history.

01:16:00.000 Very well said.

01:16:03.000 Just some breaking news right now.

01:16:05.000 Just about five minutes ago before we went live, or about six, seven minutes ago during the break, there's a Wichita, Kansas bomb scare with the police and TSA and everyone up there saying they caught someone who was in a bomb plot.

01:16:17.000 It turns out over a hundred times in the last few years, and the New York Times even reports, the FBI has found mentally ill people who aren't even connected to real terror cells.

01:16:25.000 The real terror cells work for the CIA and others.

01:16:28.000 Actually attacking sovereign countries and trying to overthrow them right now.

01:16:33.000 But I was even joking during the break and talking to the guys, probably something they're grandstanding or staged or, you know, wound up one of their patsies.

01:16:40.000 And sure enough, they're now saying the FBI wound up, it'll be the same M.O., some A.D.I.Q. 0.60

01:16:47.000 mentally ill person, I'm predicting, Wichita, Kansas.

01:16:50.000 The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force arrested the man.

01:16:54.000 Uh, as he used his airport access card.

01:16:56.000 So I guess he worked there.

01:16:58.000 He says the man was attempting to deliver what he believed to be a vehicle loaded with explosives, which he would detonate and take his own life in the process.

01:17:06.000 And you can bet money they approached him to lead the plot.

01:17:11.000 And so many times, folks, I've said this, if they ask you to be part of a drill, if you work at an airport, they will set you up, too, to make it, again, I don't mean to digress, Stefan, but what do you think about, honeybees kill more people, you can look it up, than terrorists every year, most of terrorism staged, and then all the obvious pageantry and grandstanding that I need to have armored vehicles and checkpoints and be surveilled illegally, or bin Laden's gonna shove a hand grenade, you know, up my rear end, I mean, what do we do about this?

01:17:41.000 Well, like all things, Alex, we try to make decisions based upon facts, and we steadfastly resist the lemming horde plunge off the cliff of terrified propaganda. 0.99

01:17:51.000 What are the basic facts about terrorism?

01:17:53.000 The basic facts about terrorism are twofold.

01:17:56.000 The first is that you are seven times more likely to be killed by a cop than you are by a terrorist, even if we include the obvious gruesome outlier of 9-11.

01:18:05.000 You are seven times more likely to be killed by a cop than you are by a terrorist.

01:18:08.000 So if we look at the numbers, we would say that arming cops to fight terrorists is going to put the civilian population in far more danger.

01:18:15.000 That's the first thing to understand.

01:18:17.000 Of course, the second thing to understand is that terrorists are created by terrorism.

01:18:22.000 Terrorism is a virus that breeds like any disease or virus in a Petri dish.

01:18:27.000 And by the way, they admit that.

01:18:29.000 The 12-year war on terror has tripled the terrorism the Pentagon even admits.

01:18:34.000 Yeah, and they kill 35 innocent civilians to kill one person that they identify as a terrorist.

01:18:41.000 And how do they find out if he's a terrorist?

01:18:44.000 Well, some guy they're torturing or some guy they're going to throw in prison for 20 years under the threat of torture and imprisonment.

01:18:50.000 He says, oh, that guy, he's a terrorist. 0.53

01:18:53.000 And so they go and blow him up. 0.80

01:18:54.000 We don't know if he's a terrorist or not.

01:18:56.000 The rule of law has completely disintegrated.

01:18:58.000 Now they're just calling in drone strikes.

01:19:00.000 And they just, what is it, in Yemen recently, they just drone struck a wedding.

01:19:04.000 Fifteen people.

01:19:04.000 It's monstrous and we're gonna just get more and more of this blowback until we learn the lesson that if you go poking a hornet's nest, you're gonna damn well get stung.

01:19:13.000 And then when they all attack, they then organize them and give part of Iraq to Al-Qaeda and turn them loose on Syria. 0.67

01:19:19.000 I'm not a fan of Syria, but I mean Syria's not attacking anybody.

01:19:24.000 Well, where's the self-defense?

01:19:25.000 I mean, in international law, the only legitimate use of a military is in a case of imminent self-defense.

01:19:32.000 And which of the U.S.

01:19:34.000 wars have ever been based upon imminent self-defense?

01:19:37.000 Y'all, if I can use the phrase, y'all, have peaceful neighbors to the North and South, you have giant oceans to the East and West.

01:19:43.000 When was the last time America was threatened with invasion?

01:19:46.000 1812, Canada.

01:19:48.000 It's been about 200 years.

01:19:49.000 I think it might be okay to lay down a few of the weapons and relax in a hammock for a while.

01:19:54.000 Ha ha! 0.86

01:19:55.000 Well, instead they're building a giant army of Mordor to take over the planet and try to take my gun so they have the monopoly of force.

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01:24:29.000 In some cases, threatening people if they wouldn't carry out the attacks.

01:24:34.000 And this is all just used for a giant power grab while the government runs the real radical Muslims and other groups. 0.95

01:24:40.000 Going back to Stefan Malinow, philosopher, researcher, radio talk show host, all-around interesting guy.

01:24:45.000 This is only a six-minute segment.

01:24:46.000 Some of your call's coming up at the start of the next segment.

01:24:50.000 But looking at all this other news, as the public gets more unlogical, as the public gets more dumbed down, Or as one segment of it does, we see a shifting by President Obama and the establishment towards propaganda and entertainment, and they admit this, and not even having news anymore, just getting rid of dinosaur press.

01:25:13.000 Attacking alternative media, which is the only media that's left, CNN, MSNBC, Overtime to leave news entirely, and then just implant their messages in sitcoms, dramas, and have Hollywood stars promote Obamacare, saying it'll lower your prices when it actually increases them.

01:25:30.000 So it's really a war on reality by the establishment, and more and more I realize they're engaged in a conscious war against common sense.

01:25:39.000 A. Do you agree with that?

01:25:40.000 And B. How do we counter it where there's a large minority of us who aren't perfect, but we know fraud when we see it, and we know that free market and liberty works a lot better than collectivist tyranny.

01:25:51.000 How do we reach out to the zombified folks? 1.00

01:25:55.000 Because I know smart people.

01:25:57.000 That when they see a celebrity on TV start drooling and getting excited and would slit their throat if the celebrity, you know, came down from heaven and talked to them, if the celebrity told them to, how do you get them out of this programming?

01:26:10.000 Well, of course, the first fraud we need to talk about is the fact that the current pimp for Obamacare is Adam Levine, the singer, who was named Sexiest Man Alive, as if they've never seen you in a thong, Alex.

01:26:21.000 I mean, that's the first fraud, that you have not made the cover of People in something incredibly skimpy.

01:26:28.000 So once we can crack through the Matrix in that standpoint, But what I say to people about Obamacare, it gives two very sort of brief points.

01:26:36.000 The first, of course, is that it's completely illegal.

01:26:39.000 The reason, of course, is that the executive in the United States, the president, has no power to pass laws.

01:26:43.000 He has no power to pass laws.

01:26:45.000 Only Congress has that power.

01:26:47.000 Now, they have written 30 times more regulations into Obamacare since it was originally passed, with no input from Congress whatsoever.

01:26:57.000 So, 30 times, even if we accept that Congress got the first law right when nobody read it and they lied about it anyway, 30 times the amount of law has been written since it, with no feedback, no input from Congress.

01:27:10.000 That makes the laws automatically invalid.

01:27:11.000 And they keep changing the rules all the time with no input from Congress.

01:27:14.000 This is a government by fiat, this is fascistic in its essence.

01:27:18.000 The second thing is that over 1,300 organizations have been granted exemptions from Obamacare, including All of the unions and the public sector unions who were behind it to begin with, they're all now begging to be let out of this little hamster cage from hell.

01:27:32.000 And so the reality is that in the Constitution very clearly spells out you must have equal treatment under the law the moment you pass a law, amend it afterwards with no input from Congress, and then you exempt 1,300 of your closest friends and closest friends' organizations from the application of the law.

01:27:49.000 Invalid!

01:27:50.000 Game over!

01:27:50.000 No need for further debate or discussion.

01:27:53.000 But, of course, the media doesn't tell anyone this basic stuff.

01:27:56.000 Exactly!

01:27:57.000 And, you know, for me, I know why Oprah Winfrey and MSNBC push racism all day, because in my life and in growing up, what I see, it really is getting a lot better.

01:28:05.000 I mean, everybody's just coming together, basically.

01:28:08.000 That's what I see in Austin, Texas and all over the country.

01:28:11.000 I see it all over the world.

01:28:13.000 But they've got to keep it going because the real discrimination is that all these special interest groups, coupled with government, are exempt and basically have diplomatic immunity from everything they're foisting on us.

01:28:23.000 It's a unified system.

01:28:25.000 That's the real discrimination.

01:28:27.000 And the real global civil rights movement is about not letting government and corporations be exempt from laws they pass or lobby for.

01:28:37.000 Yeah, I mean, white Western culture is really pretty good at fighting authority.

01:28:42.000 You know, all the way from the ancient Greeks, who were the first to come up with democracy and philosophy, all the way through the Romans, who tried their very best to limit the power of the state.

01:28:51.000 Of course, it broke through the bonds of what they called the Constitution at the time, just as the American government does.

01:28:56.000 All the way through all the struggles that went on to limit aristocratic power, the ending of the aristocracy throughout most of Europe, the fencing in England during the Glorious Revolution, We've been pretty good, and I say we very loosely here, but sort of white Western culture has been pretty good at trying to fight centralized and coercive authority. 0.52

01:29:13.000 White Western culture has been, was not just at the forefront, but was the sole cultural force that worked and spent blood and treasure worldwide to end the worldwide practice of slavery. 0.74

01:29:23.000 Now, we've stumbled and we've created all kinds of messes, but we are, as a culture, really quite good at trying to fight centralized coercive power.

01:29:30.000 And then, of course, even though Our ancestors, for want of a better phrase, worked really hard to end the worldwide practice of slavery.

01:29:36.000 Generally, only white racism is ever talked about, which, historically, is not exactly accurate.

01:29:40.000 That's where I want to go next!

01:29:42.000 You can look at lots of other groups first.

01:29:43.000 Yeah, I want you to come back and give me the floor on Mandela and that.

01:29:46.000 Because I've studied history, and I know slavery was worldwide. 0.95

01:29:50.000 But then in the history books, we're taught slavery is a white invention, and that whites inherently are the devil. 0.97

01:29:56.000 And why is that? 0.98

01:29:56.000 Well, because it's the Western culture. 0.98

01:29:58.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.

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01:36:34.000 They're not going to succeed.

01:36:35.000 But we have CISPA and SOPA and all these other partnerships and attempts to censor the press using fake copyright.

01:36:42.000 I want your take on the media wars that are coming, where you think that's going.

01:36:46.000 But first, Mandela.

01:36:48.000 I've studied a lot about South Africa, and it seems to me they traded one evil out for another, and I saw your video you did on it last week and thought it was spot on, and you were starting to allude to it.

01:36:58.000 Now, if you really study history, everyone basically had a caste system or what you call slavery, from India to China to Japan.

01:37:07.000 If a samurai had a new sword, wanted to test it out, they'd go chop a villager up.

01:37:11.000 That was their divine right. 0.99

01:37:13.000 Wanted to have sex with you, you had to roll over and let them, and they were kind of a cultured group of tyranny, you could say. 0.97

01:37:18.000 I'm not knocking Japanese culture. 0.99

01:37:20.000 Every culture had slaves.

01:37:21.000 Romans had white slaves, had black slaves, you name it.

01:37:25.000 Some Greek societies had what you'd call slaves.

01:37:27.000 Others didn't and would fight with them over it.

01:37:29.000 There were riots 500 years ago in the transatlantic slave trade 'cause they phased out some white slavery in Europe.

01:37:34.000 So they went on sort of grabbing blacks, which they picked up from the Arabs, not demonizing Arabs, it's just a fact.

01:37:40.000 The Arabs are still running slavery in North Africa, but that's trendy and cool. 1.00

01:37:44.000 We're told it's a different type of slavery. 0.86

01:37:46.000 All I hear all day is I'm bad, Western culture's bad, and Western culture is dying, and the Western elite are helping kill it.

01:37:53.000 Why are they doing that?

01:37:54.000 You've got the floor.

01:37:57.000 Well, there's a small topic to deal with.

01:37:58.000 Well, I mean, very briefly, of course, as you know, whites did not go to Africa and go into the country and capture, you know, the peaceful slaves or peaceful blacks and drag them off in slavery.

01:38:11.000 Whites couldn't survive it.

01:38:11.000 Live in Africa, because we didn't have the immune system to deal with all the plagues, the average life expectancy for a white who left the coast and went inland was about 11 months.

01:38:20.000 So the black slave trade and the Arab slave trade, the Middle Eastern slave trade, was humming along, and whites went in and bought the slaves from the coastal cities and took them away.

01:38:28.000 All nasty stuff. 0.64

01:38:29.000 I mean, slavery is a fundamental moral abomination.

01:38:32.000 Nobody has any argument with that.

01:38:33.000 I read the British reports from 300 years ago where, on average, a third of the ship would die of the white sailors just going to pick up slaves.

01:38:42.000 And that was why the first multicultural pirate ships were created. 1.00

01:38:45.000 It wasn't that they wanted to even revolt.

01:38:47.000 It was a death sentence if you came back on a second mission.

01:38:51.000 Go ahead.

01:38:51.000 Well, and the whites who were sailing the ships were themselves slaves.

01:38:56.000 They were press ganged into this.

01:38:57.000 I mean, it was the government power, which is evil all over the world, pretty much, which needs to be fought.

01:39:03.000 So what happened, of course, was with a sort of an awakening consciousness, which came out of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment, egalitarianism, the spirit of man, the universality of ethics and so on, which was, of course, in the Declaration of Independence and was supposed to be a more foundational part of the U.S.

01:39:18.000 Constitution.

01:39:19.000 They started to say, well, maybe owning other human beings like livestock is not really that great an idea.

01:39:24.000 And the Royal Navy sailed around the seas, not in terms of conquest, there certainly was that element to it, but they were out there trying to catch slavers and trying to end the practice of slavery.

01:39:33.000 The British government bribed many Arabic governments to have them stop.

01:39:36.000 paid slave owners to have them stop having their slaves.

01:39:40.000 And they had to catch these slave ships really quickly because if you were a slave ship, a Royal Navy ship comes up behind you.

01:39:46.000 If they think they're gonna catch, if you think you're gonna get caught, you cut the throats of your slaves and you dump them in the water.

01:39:51.000 They had to catch them under cover of night.

01:39:54.000 They had to steal on the ships to do this.

01:39:55.000 This is how committed they were to ending this moral abomination called slavery.

01:40:00.000 And this is nowhere taught, it is nowhere understood, because I think fundamentally white guilt is a very profitable resource for people to tweak.

01:40:07.000 You know, you make a white person feel guilty, they'll be like, oh, here's some benefits, here's affirmative action, here's taxes, here's whatever you want, just stop making me feel guilty.

01:40:15.000 And then that hamstrings the people that are getting the handouts.

01:40:18.000 And then that hamstrings the people that are becoming dependent.

01:40:22.000 Right.

01:40:23.000 Yeah, and of course in Africa now, South Africa in particular, I mean, it's monstrous. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Apartheid, of course, was immoral and racist and so on, but we do have to look to some degree at the relative ethics of the time.

01:40:33.000 All of the other blacks in Africa were dying to get into South Africa. 0.76

01:40:37.000 I visited there a few times and have a little bit of experience there.

01:40:39.000 People were trying to get into South Africa.

01:40:42.000 60% of blacks and whites now say that they were better off under apartheid.

01:40:46.000 And if you're saying that you're better off under apartheid, that is not exactly a ringing endorsement of your current system. 0.99

01:40:52.000 South Africa is the rape and murder capital of the world at the moment. 0.98

01:40:56.000 It is a disintegrating country. 0.99

01:40:58.000 And I think it's partly because they didn't really go back and learn the lessons of the American Revolution.

01:41:04.000 And you had a bunch of communists, of which Nelson Mandela was first and foremost.

01:41:07.000 He wrote a treatise in his youth called How to Be a Good Communist.

01:41:10.000 Did not explicitly reject these views.

01:41:12.000 And so the virus of socialism landed in Africa in the same way that it landed after the Raj ended in 1949 in India.

01:41:19.000 You get all these socialists who go out there and try and set up this central planning communist socialist dystopia and then things go to heck in a handbasket and nobody sits there and says, well it's because people aren't free to trade and own property and government's interfering with everything.

01:41:32.000 It's the same lesson that we learned brutally for hundreds of years and we've forgotten to teach other people.

01:41:36.000 Well, George Orwell valiantly joined the Communists because he'd been a member of the British Imperial Police, Eric Blair was his real name, until he went and fought in the Abraham Lincoln Brigades and got shot in the throat in the Spanish Civil War against Hitler's forces.

01:41:49.000 And then he wrote about in his books, I read them, how the Communist leaders were actually just like bank robber criminal rapists who were using all the well-meaning Communists to set up and just take over.

01:42:01.000 And that they couldn't beat the Nazis because the communists were just so criminal, they couldn't even organize. 0.86

01:42:05.000 The Nazis were actually ideologues who believed what they were doing. 0.57

01:42:10.000 And it's just incredible.

01:42:12.000 There is this belief that we have, you know, ordinary criminals like pickpockets and so on, and then we have organized criminals like the Mafia and so on, and then above those people, like this archway above society, is this glowing godhood of statism that protects us from all these Nazi little people. 0.98

01:42:30.000 I think that the historically accurate, if not currently accurate view, is that the incompetent criminals are out there picking your pockets.

01:42:37.000 The more competent criminals are organizing into mobs.

01:42:40.000 But the most competent criminals run for office and end up in charge of the state.

01:42:44.000 They are the best of the best.

01:42:46.000 They're not there to protect you from criminals because they're kind of pursuing the same methodology, but better.

01:42:51.000 And that's what Zbigniew Brzezinski has said in three of his books.

01:42:54.000 He admits that they run every criminal operation to control it for our own good though, Stefan.

01:42:59.000 We've got to be thankful they laundered the drug money and run the little kids and, you know, do everything.

01:43:04.000 We've got to be thankful they made drugs illegal to make larger profits.

01:43:07.000 See how they helped us?

01:43:10.000 Well, of course, you hear this argument all the time.

01:43:12.000 Without the government and the police, who on earth would protect your property, Alex?

01:43:16.000 First of all, if you're allowed to own your own weaponry, your property is pretty safe to begin with.

01:43:20.000 And secondly, how can I claim that somebody is there to protect my property when they take over 50% of it at source, and not even counting unfunded liabilities, debts, and deficits, when they take about 50% of my money?

01:43:31.000 That's right.

01:43:32.000 How can they be said to be protecting my money?

01:43:34.000 That's right.

01:43:34.000 The average cop can be a really good person.

01:43:36.000 On average, I've actually found them to be, you know, a lot of our servants.

01:43:39.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:43:40.000 The big state is there to support, as you've said, and protect the farm animals from rogue wolves and coyotes that might try to come snack on a pig or a goat or a sheep or a chicken or, you know, stop a weasel.

01:43:52.000 The larger weasel is guarding the hen house from other weasels that aren't in his employ.

01:43:57.000 The system is there to protect their racket over us, and now they're getting greedy and have created an Agenda 21 cosmology nomenclature Where they fantasize that social engineering is looting us to reduce us down to the level of beggars to save the earth, while they themselves are the ones with government mismanagement allowing the degradation of the environment.

01:44:20.000 It's incredible!

01:44:21.000 I mean, the fruits of these people is literally liquid death.

01:44:27.000 Well, you know, one of the great tragedies of history, Alex, is that a truly free market doesn't have much use for sophists and sociopaths and all of the predatory wordsmiths of the upper classes.

01:44:40.000 And so when there's a free market, you know what you have to do.

01:44:42.000 You do this with your show, I do this with my show.

01:44:44.000 We go out and we try to produce value to people on a voluntary basis.

01:44:48.000 If they don't like us, they can just switch us off.

01:44:50.000 If they find us offensive, they can turn us off.

01:44:52.000 But we still have to go out there and provide truth on a voluntary basis.

01:44:55.000 But if you're a politician, everyone's going to listen to you because you're in charge of all the weaponry in the known universe and beyond.

01:45:01.000 So when you have a truly free market, all of the verbally adept, sociopathic, busybodies who want to tell everyone else what to do can't really do it because they can try and boss you around.

01:45:10.000 You're like, click, turn them off, don't care.

01:45:12.000 And so these kinds of people can't really adapt to the free market.

01:45:15.000 They want to retain the power, the political power to push everyone around.

01:45:20.000 And, you know, the Endless interfering busybodies of the human race would have precious little to do without the state and that's one of the reasons why they like the state.

01:45:29.000 It gives them this massive platform to move us all around like the little pawns, like the little ants, like the livestock that they think we are.

01:45:36.000 The tragedy is they can only do it with our fundamental consent.

01:45:39.000 That's right and It literally becomes an ether in which unnatural people that no one would want to associate with can now attain power and success in sort of the natural, virtuous way.

01:45:50.000 Whoever is the most hardworking, the most loving, the most creative, the most beautiful, the most honorable becomes the example of society, that others emulate that.

01:45:59.000 And you go to Alpha Centauri, and to the next level of human development.

01:46:03.000 But if you go with who has the most weapons, the most thugs, the most intimidation, the best BS, you build systems of BS, to where the public then mimics that, civilization collapses.

01:46:14.000 And then it restarts over with virtue again, then we become decadent and corrupt.

01:46:18.000 The problem is, we can't go through that cycle again, because they're going to destroy the planet with the weaponry this time.

01:46:24.000 They must be stopped.

01:46:26.000 Well, I agree with that.

01:46:27.000 And there is this awful thing that is fundamental where people say, well, Barack Obama or Sarkozy or Putin or whoever it is, they should be in charge.

01:46:36.000 They should be telling everyone what to do.

01:46:38.000 They know the way things should be.

01:46:40.000 And I would love to see a world, Alex, where these guys had the power of, say, an advice column.

01:46:46.000 You know, where you could write into these guys and say, Barack Obama, how should I deal with my health care?

01:46:51.000 And he'd say, well, I, as a constitutional law professor, I believe that you should do X, Y, or whatever, right?

01:46:55.000 I'd love to just see them have the power of an advice column.

01:46:58.000 Or, you know, they'd have a hotline.

01:46:59.000 You'd call them up and say, Barack, I don't really know what to do with 50% of my income.

01:47:02.000 What do you think I should do?

01:47:03.000 He'd say, well, you should spend it on this, this, this, and this.

01:47:06.000 That's what I want.

01:47:07.000 They don't have the power to compel our obedience, but they actually have to win us over with reason and evidence.

01:47:12.000 Wouldn't that be a beautiful world?

01:47:15.000 Exactly.

01:47:15.000 Instead, they blow stuff up, or let people blow stuff up, and then fear monger until we give up all of our rights.

01:47:20.000 Let me ask you this before we go to phone calls.

01:47:22.000 Where do you, Stefan Molyneux, where do you think This battle in your gut, just as you're stalled, is going.

01:47:29.000 Is Liberty losing or winning?

01:47:31.000 And will the Globals blow stuff up?

01:47:34.000 You are going to get flecks of foam on your webcam, because this is a topic I actually feel quite passionate about.

01:47:40.000 So I will give you my very, very brief answer to that.

01:47:44.000 There is no momentum in history.

01:47:45.000 There is no great movement of history that pushes around.

01:47:49.000 We are not pinballs in the endless bumper.

01:47:51.000 Sorry, for your younger audience, you'll have to ask your parents what that means.

01:47:54.000 We're not pinballs bumping around the bumpers of some giant cosmic pinball machine.

01:47:59.000 Where the world goes is where committed, passionate, knowledgeable communicators make it go.

01:48:05.000 It's where you make it go, it's where I make it go, it's where your listeners make it go in their conversations, in their lives.

01:48:10.000 Where does history go?

01:48:11.000 Where is the momentum of human history?

01:48:13.000 In the willpower of committed individuals and in no other place.

01:48:18.000 Now, it's true that if Committed people of intelligence and integrity and willpower do nothing?

01:48:23.000 Then yes!

01:48:25.000 The worst tends to overcome the better.

01:48:26.000 Like if you sit on your couch, you get fatter, not leaner.

01:48:29.000 And if we do nothing, then yes, evil wins.

01:48:32.000 But all we have to do is get off our butts and make the world uncomfortable for the compromise, which provokes them into thinking like you sharpen a sword against a spinning sand wheel.

01:48:41.000 Then we just go and make the world uncomfortable. 0.93

01:48:43.000 We push the world where we want it to go.

01:48:44.000 We make the world go where we want it to go because we have the better arguments, we have the greater evidence.

01:48:49.000 And the accumulated evidence of history is completely on our side.

01:48:52.000 I agree.

01:48:53.000 And the statists all say this.

01:48:55.000 Cass Sunstein says, we'll infiltrate the alternative media, discredit it by acting, you know, bad, putting out racism, disinfo.

01:49:02.000 And they say we've got to just keep pushing, pushing, pushing.

01:49:04.000 They even admit in their own papers, oh, they all want freedom.

01:49:07.000 The average person wants to be a libertarian or beyond.

01:49:10.000 But we've got to act like they're all alone.

01:49:12.000 We've got to just just dominate them, whip them, break their will.

01:49:16.000 And so the crazy thing is they write all these books like we're not reading them.

01:49:19.000 I think their arrogance is going to undo them.

01:49:22.000 So we have to make them uncomfortable everywhere, just like they do us. 0.99

01:49:25.000 And that's what I do.

01:49:26.000 And it's not a tiring thing, folks.

01:49:28.000 Once you start doing this, it's like, finally breathing.

01:49:32.000 Oh, I was supposed to do this.

01:49:34.000 This is the animating contest of liberty that Jefferson talked about.

01:49:39.000 Yes, and don't you remember when you were a kid and you did something bad or did something wrong, which basically meant you disagreed with the authority and ease of the powers that be in your school or wherever?

01:49:49.000 What would they say to you?

01:49:50.000 They'd say, Alex Jones, young Alex Jones, this is going to go on your permanent record.

01:49:55.000 And those words were like, oh my goodness, it's going to be tattooed on my forehead and so on.

01:49:59.000 And now, of course, we all have a genuine permanent record called everything we ever do on the Internet or in a bank machine or using a credit card through the NSA.

01:50:06.000 And what has it done?

01:50:07.000 It has done fundamentally nothing to us.

01:50:09.000 Other than give us more ammunition to push back against this encroaching tyranny.

01:50:13.000 Exactly.

01:50:14.000 Call their bluff.

01:50:15.000 Double down on life.

01:50:17.000 Get crazed.

01:50:18.000 I mean, humans are meant to be wild and full of life. 0.96

01:50:21.000 Instead of just waddling around wearing sports jerseys, you know, watching steroid heads push each other around and grab each other's butts.

01:50:30.000 I mean, it's just there's so much more in the universe than watching Obama Or watching John Boehner, or watching all these people.

01:50:38.000 That's what I hate, is how the statists make us look at them, make us talk about them, even to block them.

01:50:43.000 We need to make them where they're the joke they are.

01:50:45.000 Do you agree with that?

01:50:47.000 Yeah, look, I mean, what have we as a species had to be evolved?

01:50:50.000 We evolved as hunter-gatherers.

01:50:52.000 Now, we've all just kind of thrown the hunter side aside, you know, and we've just become these gatherers.

01:50:57.000 Like, oh, look, there's some nuts called welfare or the military-industrial complex.

01:51:00.000 Exactly.

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01:54:12.000 Call me the hunter.

01:54:14.000 That's my name.

01:54:18.000 We're being hunted by the globalists.

01:54:28.000 They're trained to be like sheep.

01:54:30.000 Stefan Molyneux is our guest right now.

01:54:37.000 And he was briefly finishing up his point that we have a predator superclass that trains us to act like absolute victims.

01:54:44.000 Crank it up.

01:54:46.000 Here's the good part right here.

01:54:47.000 The message of the new world order.

01:54:49.000 We're not laying down anymore.

01:54:51.000 We're going to hunt them. 0.68

01:54:52.000 Call me the hunter.

01:54:59.000 That's my name.

01:55:02.000 All right.

01:55:03.000 Alright, folks, let's go back to Stefan Mahler in a little bit of overdrive and take these calls.

01:55:07.000 I apologize to the callers.

01:55:08.000 I've been hogging all the guests today.

01:55:10.000 I'm a really bad guy.

01:55:13.000 Alright, Stefan, finish your point about that.

01:55:18.000 We've lost our, I think, to some degree, masculinity.

01:55:22.000 Bring back the masculinity.

01:55:24.000 Bring back the spine.

01:55:25.000 We've just become these gatherers looking for the rotten fruits of power that drip down on our tables and going, like, what a great meal.

01:55:33.000 Let's go out and hunt ourselves some freedom.

01:55:34.000 It's all language.

01:55:35.000 It's all reason.

01:55:36.000 It's all evidence.

01:55:37.000 There's no weaponry that's going to set us free because the real prison, the real state, the real tyranny is in the mind.

01:55:43.000 But we can blow through that stuff with reason and evidence.

01:55:47.000 And bring down a big predator called freedom.

01:55:50.000 Go ahead, sorry.

01:55:50.000 No, no, I agree.

01:55:51.000 Once we shift into hunter mode against the enemy, that's combat mode as well, they're shifted into that with deceit, we shift into the hunter mode with liberty, we're gonna kick their butt. 0.99

01:56:03.000 And we all love combat. 0.99

01:56:04.000 Are you talking about sports?

01:56:05.000 Sports is combat.

01:56:06.000 I mean, how well do combat movies show?

01:56:09.000 We all love combat.

01:56:11.000 It's invigorating.

01:56:12.000 The great mistake, of course, has been to try to get a fight with weapons rather than with language, rather than with philosophy, rather than with reason and evidence.

01:56:20.000 But when you get into that mode, it's really invigorating.

01:56:22.000 People look at that and say, oh, there's so much fighting, it's so tense, it must be so stressful.

01:56:27.000 It's kind of what we're built for, people.

01:56:29.000 This is why we're not in the caves.

01:56:31.000 This is why we're not jellyfish or amoeba anymore.

01:56:33.000 I mean, most of us.

01:56:35.000 So I think that it's really... I invite people to take on the combat.

01:56:38.000 It's what Andrew Breitbart used to say.

01:56:41.000 Walk towards the fire!

01:56:43.000 Walk towards the fire!

01:56:44.000 Because if you run away, it's gonna catch you only with your back turned.

01:56:48.000 Absolutely.

01:56:49.000 God bless you.

01:56:50.000 That's very well said.

01:56:51.000 God bless the atheism.

01:56:52.000 It's a endearing term.

01:56:54.000 Let's talk to Greg in Pennsylvania.

01:56:55.000 Thanks for holding, brother.

01:56:56.000 You're on the air.

01:56:57.000 Go ahead.

01:56:58.000 Hello there, gentlemen.

01:56:59.000 I'd like to throw something out there that nobody has talked about.

01:57:03.000 It would be the farm bill and, you know, the role and what the farmers would play in things as they progress.

01:57:12.000 And, you know, I'm a small farmer.

01:57:15.000 Uh, I work, I have to work a 50 hour a week job just to keep the farm going and keep everything going and it's just, uh, I'd just like to get your take on the farm bill and, or I guess you could call it the poop stamp bill, and uh, what uh, what will be a good, what's, yeah.

01:57:32.000 Well I'll be honest with you, I've read some about it but it's always changing.

01:57:35.000 You're the expert, give us your brief take on it and we'll get Stefan's take.

01:57:39.000 Well, from what I read of it, it's basically a food stamp bill.

01:57:42.000 Eighty percent of it is food stamps, and none of it that I know helps me, a small farmer.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, well, that's what they do.

01:57:50.000 They always get control of the economy and then call it one thing and do another.

01:57:53.000 I know this.

01:57:54.000 American farmers were much more prosperous, and there were more of them, before government got involved.

01:57:59.000 They're replacing it with Big Agra.

01:58:01.000 Only Big Agra knows how to get the incentives and the free deals.

01:58:04.000 Let's get Stefan's take on that.

01:58:05.000 God bless you, Greg.

01:58:06.000 Good question.

01:58:08.000 Well, on the right, the Republican Party gets an average donation of about $50 each.

01:58:13.000 In other words, small farmers can help the Republican Party.

01:58:16.000 On the left, the Democratic Party has refused to release the size of their average donation because I'm not even going out on a limb to guess that it's far larger than that because it comes from a lot of rich elites in the media and in the entertainment industry and so on.

01:58:29.000 So one of the problems is, the people on the left, they want bigger and bigger organizations.

01:58:33.000 Because the small people, they like to fund parties that are focusing on smaller government free trade, like the Republican Party.

01:58:39.000 So when you get big aggregate groups together, that tends to benefit the left.

01:58:43.000 And so when you start to give farm subsidies, then you start to make it more profitable to lobby politicians and all... This is GCN, the Genesis Communications Radio Network.

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02:00:24.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

02:00:28.000 All I know is this.

02:00:39.000 We have an authoritarian directive in Washington.

02:00:42.000 It's bipartisan because of a lot of corruption going on.

02:00:46.000 They want a police state.

02:00:48.000 And it's up to all of us to exercise our Second Amendment.

02:00:51.000 That's why I love the open carries that have not caused any problems nationwide like we had at the Alamo.

02:00:57.000 It's because it shows, hey, it's not dirty that I have a gun.

02:01:00.000 And I liken it to Martin Luther King.

02:01:04.000 Going into the places where you couldn't If you were black, the bathrooms, the hotels, the restaurants... 0.97

02:01:14.000 It's the same thing with an open carrier.

02:01:16.000 It's the same thing suing when the police arrest you for your legal lawful gun.

02:01:19.000 You've got to do it, ladies and gentlemen.

02:01:22.000 You've got to have these marches.

02:01:23.000 So in closing, Eric, anything else you'd like to add?

02:01:26.000 You're the victim of this, the owner going out to their car.

02:01:29.000 And any other tidbits or points you think people should know about where this lawsuit's going now, this federal lawsuit, because the county's done nothing?

02:01:40.000 All I can say is just beware of the police out there.

02:01:46.000 And I don't know where it's going.

02:01:48.000 We're trying to push and trying to push and trying to get something done.

02:01:52.000 But all I can say is just pray for us.

02:01:56.000 We're trying to work.

02:01:57.000 We're trying to get something solved for this.

02:02:01.000 I mean, I just saw the new New York police chief came out and said, trust us, you know, we're your friends.

02:02:05.000 Why are they having to talk like that?

02:02:07.000 Because the police are being given political directives that are unconstitutional and aren't common law and aren't common sense.

02:02:15.000 The police are wildly popular when they have good departments and follow the Bill of Rights.

02:02:20.000 So the police, you know, you're saying, again talking to your lawyer, Shannon Braley, you know, both your police were Both your parents were Atlanta Police, so growing up in that, I know you probably have a lot of inside baseball on it.

02:02:34.000 What do you think is happening here?

02:02:36.000 Yeah, I was an officer for seven years.

02:02:40.000 You know, a lot of times people in the community, they will contact the City Council and make complaints, and then they'll complain to the The white shirts, the upper echelon, and they'll be like, instead of thinking and having thoughtful dialogue with the officers, they'll be like, give me bodies, give me bodies.

02:02:57.000 And you know, this is, again, you know, like I said before, this is a job that requires thought, like being a surgeon or anything else.

02:03:04.000 So, you know, this isn't putting on parts to a machine in the factory.

02:03:08.000 It requires thought to every single situation, and they don't encourage that.

02:03:11.000 They just say, give me bodies.

02:03:13.000 And, you know, I believe that it's going to take, you know, You know, people, you're bringing things like this to light, that yes, you know, it's terrible to have crime and yes, we want the bad guys to be arrested, but not as a sacrifice of, um...

02:03:27.000 You know, basic, fundamental, you know, human rights we have.

02:03:31.000 But they knew he had a concealed carry.

02:03:33.000 I mean, they knew he didn't have a criminal record.

02:03:35.000 They knew he was a good guy.

02:03:36.000 And they still just said, okay, instead of saying they were wrong, which they weren't even wrong, instead of just saying, okay, false alarm, have a nice day, they had to take him to jail.

02:03:44.000 It's that idea of, well, you know, a lot of departments don't want to hire intelligent police now, and that's because the establishment wants a tyranny.

02:03:51.000 Exactly.

02:03:52.000 And you know, he knew he was wrong.

02:03:53.000 That's why he turned up the radio on the way to the jail.

02:03:55.000 He knew he was wrong.

02:03:56.000 He didn't want to feel guilted by, you know, Mr. Lee.

02:03:59.000 And, you know, they count on people, get sweeping things under the rug, like an arrest is no big deal.

02:04:04.000 Well, it was a big deal for Eric.

02:04:06.000 And, you know, and it was a big deal that they continued to hold the property.

02:04:11.000 So, um, I think... Oh yeah, that's the big issue.

02:04:13.000 Still hadn't got his gun back.

02:04:16.000 They continue to endorse this behavior.

02:04:21.000 Well, you're a good lawyer, Shannon Briley.

02:04:23.000 Thank you.

02:04:24.000 If I was ever in Georgia and need one, I'll give you a call.

02:04:26.000 Thank you.

02:04:27.000 Are there websites we can visit?

02:04:28.000 Are there ways we can support you guys?

02:04:31.000 Um, you can go to www.brileylaw.com.

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02:04:43.000 I'm sorry, I've been sick this week, so that's why my voice is hoarse.

02:04:46.000 Oh, you sound great.

02:04:47.000 Thank you.

02:04:48.000 Listen, Eric Lee, God bless you for what you're doing.

02:04:50.000 We'll check in with you again as the lawsuit develops, sir.

02:04:53.000 Okay, thank you.

02:04:54.000 I think.

02:04:55.000 Thank you.

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02:08:32.000 My friends, I've studied history.

02:08:34.000 It's not hard to do.

02:08:36.000 Tyrants do the same things over and over again.

02:08:38.000 Their playbook's actually pretty small.

02:08:41.000 They call slavery different things, but it's basically the same thing.

02:08:46.000 And we know that we're already deep into social engineering, the collapse of society, and I've been hammering it the last, I don't know, three, four years, it's been really obvious, Obama's been in now for six years, that he is becoming a dictator.

02:09:01.000 And I remember having Pastor David Manning on, Pastor James David Manning, I don't know, six, seven years ago when he was first talking about Obama.

02:09:10.000 And he was saying, he's going to become a dictator, he's not going to leave, I tell you he's pure evil.

02:09:15.000 And I'm like, come on, he's just a front man to push their agenda, presidents are puppets, come on, let's not.

02:09:23.000 Come on, that's going to add to the division here.

02:09:25.000 They're trying to sell him as the Son of Christ and Abraham Lincoln all rolled into one, but it can't be that bad. 0.62

02:09:33.000 And now I've got to say that Manning has been correct and I have been wrong in understating how bad Obama would be.

02:09:41.000 Let me explain something.

02:09:43.000 He put our military under NATO U.N.

02:09:45.000 command, and when Congress threatened him and said this is unconstitutional and illegal, he sent him letters and had the Joint Chiefs testify, belligerently, that they get their orders from the U.N.

02:09:56.000 and NATO.

02:09:57.000 He played that audio.

02:09:58.000 Three separate hearings.

02:09:59.000 House and Senate Armed Services Committees.

02:10:02.000 In the last three years.

02:10:03.000 Three times.

02:10:05.000 He is shutting down, well it's over 500 now, they're shutting down 500 more coal power plants that are totally clean, supply 50 plus percent of our power.

02:10:14.000 Well they did now, plants supply like 30 something, they're shutting us down.

02:10:19.000 And then General Electric can scale up and make more money, they're exempt, that's martial law.

02:10:25.000 He's legalizing all the illegals basically, and this is in the news, by fiat, without even an order, he just tells them on the phone what to do.

02:10:33.000 Like he's beyond Kim Jong Il of North Korea, Kim Jong Un.

02:10:36.000 At least they'll even do a fake order on paper and put a fake stamp on it.

02:10:40.000 He just says, hey, my word is God.

02:10:42.000 God Emperor.

02:10:45.000 He's now doing it with Obamacare.

02:10:46.000 They're saying, yes, make him a dictator, he'll fix it.

02:10:48.000 Now Democrats are saying, let's make him president for a third term, or let's just suspend things, or let's just... And it's a whole bunch of areas, folks, and they've gotten away with fast and furious.

02:10:58.000 The IRS persecuting Christians and gun groups and pro-lifers and the FBI covering it up.

02:11:03.000 And I mean, Benghazi and fast and furious.

02:11:06.000 It goes on and on and on and on.

02:11:09.000 And then I realized... 0.99

02:11:13.000 Libya and invading Africa with UN armies that are just murdering people in mass, backed by Muslims and animists, killing Christians everywhere. 1.00

02:11:22.000 I mean, if it's evil, they're doing it. 0.97

02:11:23.000 They don't even do it for an interest now, except to further evil.

02:11:27.000 Again, it's scary when you've got corrupt boss hog politicians that do bad stuff for power, but when they're doing it, even though it's destroying Obama, even though it's making him be hated, they don't care because it is a mission to bankrupt America.

02:11:41.000 Obamacare, all of it, is on record to bring this country down.

02:11:45.000 Now the architect of it is Ezekiel Emanuel at Minson.

02:11:48.000 So he joins us via phone at the bottom of the hour with a quick pop-in.

02:11:51.000 I want to get him for a full hour soon via video Skype from his ATLA TV studios there in Harlem, where he actually tries to preach a message that's going to get people out of the plantation that is socialism.

02:12:06.000 And he feeds hundreds of children a day and others with their soup kitchens.

02:12:10.000 And he joins us right now.

02:12:11.000 So he's a really good guy.

02:12:12.000 Pastor Manning, thank you for coming on with us today, sir.

02:12:15.000 Well, Alex, thank you for having me today.

02:12:17.000 Well, thank you.

02:12:19.000 I mean, you've got the floor for the little bit of time we've got.

02:12:21.000 He is a dictator now.

02:12:23.000 Now the question is, is he making the office a dictatorship?

02:12:26.000 Will he leave?

02:12:27.000 I think that we need to understand Obama in terms of modern dictatorship.

02:12:33.000 Generally, when we think about dictators like Hitler or Mussolini or Lenin or others, We think about them using the military to deploy their policies and to keep people in control.

02:12:44.000 Obama has found a way to use economic, racial, and social policies as if the military.

02:12:53.000 In other words, what Obama does with these policies of economics, with racism, which is the undergirding of his presidency, Uh, and then social issues, which are anti-Christian, anti-God, many of them very communist and very Marxist, is his new army.

02:13:12.000 And so he's a modern dictator.

02:13:13.000 We have to think about him in those terms.

02:13:17.000 Man, you really are, you really are smart.

02:13:19.000 I mean, the way you crystallize things, that's it.

02:13:21.000 Obama is the modern 2.0 dictator.

02:13:26.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:13:27.000 And I think the next thing we need to begin to think about is what are we going to do about him?

02:13:32.000 In your opening piece, you stated that I stated six years ago that he would not leave office and that he would become a dictator.

02:13:39.000 In fact, he came in as a dictator.

02:13:41.000 What we need to think about now is how are we going to move him if we're going to save America?

02:13:47.000 How are we going to get him out of office because he has such power over the courts, Alex?

02:13:53.000 I mean, the very fact that Obamacare was approved by Judge Roberts indicates this man has power over the courts.

02:13:59.000 Franklin Roosevelt tried to pack the courts so he could get his policies through.

02:14:04.000 All Obama has to do is pick up the phone and his policies are approved.

02:14:08.000 So how are we going to get him out of office?

02:14:10.000 What are we going to do?

02:14:12.000 We can't rely upon the Republicans or the Conservatives or whoever it is that is supposed to be opposing him because they're not doing that.

02:14:20.000 If we're going to save this nation and stop Obama from trashing it and doing what he wants to do with it, we have to start thinking about strategies and not relying upon the electoral system or the Republicans or the media, which is the other part of his government, to be able to save America.

02:14:39.000 Very well said, and I think we've got to communicate to people that it's a modern form of technocratic dictatorship, and I was thinking they were setting up dictatorial divisions and systems so that the office could be dictatorial, but they are acting like they don't care what we think now, and that they are trying to bring the country down and bankrupt it so that he can then pose as a savior.

02:15:00.000 How do you expect him to try to stay in office?

02:15:03.000 Because for the first time, I'm starting to think that may be the plan.

02:15:06.000 Well, I suspect That he's most probably going to have some sort of a false flag.

02:15:12.000 I think he's going to need martial law.

02:15:14.000 He's going to need the military in order to be able to stay in office.

02:15:18.000 And there's no telling what he'll do in terms of some sort of a false flag that he'll create.

02:15:23.000 Maybe a crisis within America, some sort of a possible racial crisis, while I don't think that might be it.

02:15:30.000 On the other hand, Alex, the thing that we have to be very mindful of is that there are a large number of Americans who are ready now to revolt, and they very well may give him what he wants.

02:15:42.000 On the other hand, we need a revolution at this station.

02:15:47.000 So we want to be like Lexington or Concord.

02:15:49.000 We want to work to not let it get physical and win the info war, the war of ideas.

02:15:54.000 But if they start stuff, I think we should be more, you know, Christ-like and at key points... Well, I'm not so sure we should be so Christ-like unless we're going to be the Christ of the sword that I preach for the most part.

02:16:09.000 Well let me just finish the statement.

02:16:10.000 Let me just finish the statement so you know where I'm coming from.

02:16:12.000 Okay.

02:16:12.000 I'm saying, I'm saying we have to wait for the right time to where it morally they fire first and then we have the moral high ground.

02:16:21.000 We don't want them to trick us into something preemptive.

02:16:24.000 The problem is they'll blow up another federal building like OKC, the same Attorney General was deputy then, clearly involved, to then blame it on the Liberty Movement.

02:16:31.000 So I understand I understand that we may have to defend ourselves.

02:16:35.000 My problem is that they may blow something up and blame it on us.

02:16:38.000 So the last thing we want to do is offensively do anything.

02:16:41.000 Go ahead.

02:16:42.000 Well, you definitely don't want that to happen.

02:16:43.000 You don't want them to blame us on 9-11 or some other event or the Oklahoma event.

02:16:50.000 That we don't want to have happen.

02:16:52.000 What we also have to think about, Alex, is that Obama controls the economy.

02:16:57.000 He controls Wall Street.

02:16:59.000 So we're going to need economic power, not just military power or revolutionary power.

02:17:04.000 We need economic power, and that's the thing that we're lacking most in.

02:17:08.000 I mean, all of America is armed to the teeth.

02:17:10.000 There are people all over America that are ready to rise up if they have to to save this nation.

02:17:15.000 Not because they're belligerent, not because they hate the nation, not because they're just war mongering, but they realize that we need to be able to save this nation militarily.

02:17:23.000 But the problem is this, is that we don't have the kind of economic power or the media power to be able to withstand a Obama attack, which is what he's doing now.

02:17:35.000 So how do we get that together?

02:17:36.000 How do we do that is the question.

02:17:37.000 I think you're right.

02:17:41.000 People better support alternative real media like never before, uh... whether it's what you're doing at hotline We're going to give that site out in just a moment.

02:17:49.000 We'll put it up on screen or InfoWars or Drudge or any of the sites.

02:17:52.000 In fact, Richard, will you scroll down so I can put his site up on the air for folks?

02:17:56.000 It's atla.org.

02:17:57.000 O-R-G-A-T-L-A-H dot O-R-G. 1.00

02:18:02.000 It's an excellent site.

02:18:03.000 We need to do that.

02:18:04.000 I think we need to just get the word out.

02:18:05.000 But I'll tell you this.

02:18:06.000 I was talking to an Army officer just yesterday.

02:18:08.000 I'll just leave it at that.

02:18:10.000 And he said 98% of the military knows what's going on now.

02:18:13.000 Now, just six months ago, he said it was about 80%.

02:18:16.000 He said 98% know that there's an attempt to overthrow the country and to bring in tyranny.

02:18:21.000 I think we need to get the word out that we're not alone, but we're not connected because we don't have the media and we don't have the financial system.

02:18:32.000 So it's really a bizarre situation, almost like a Mexican standoff.

02:18:37.000 Well, I think we're going to have to attack the media as the first line of Obama defense.

02:18:43.000 The media serves as his pawns or as his bishops.

02:18:47.000 We're going to have to go after the media.

02:18:48.000 We're going to have to support media like you.

02:18:50.000 And I'm not patronizing you, Alex, but we're going to have to begin to listen to sources like you and other sources that are out there.

02:18:58.000 But we're going to have to attack as the first line of defense.

02:19:02.000 All of the media, whether it's conservative or liberal media, they all do the exact same thing.

02:19:07.000 And when we can bring them out, we can stop the disinformation campaign.

02:19:11.000 Because people are sitting there in their comfortable chairs, listening to Fox News, thinking that somehow or another Mitt Romney or somebody else is going to overthrow Obama and we're going to get America back.

02:19:21.000 We've got to take down that part of Obama's process.

02:19:24.000 I agree.

02:19:25.000 We've got to attack him.

02:19:26.000 And then we can go after him economically. 0.95

02:19:29.000 No, you're right.

02:19:30.000 It's the idea of the loyal opposition.

02:19:32.000 When those guys are all part of the same power structure, and they're all so scared, I mean, those big people, it's really hard for people that are already part of the system to stand up.

02:19:42.000 But look at how they're going after Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

02:19:44.000 You can always tell who's real by who they attack.

02:19:47.000 You absolutely can.

02:19:49.000 And I think that if we began to work on that strategy and look at how the politicians are attacking, look at what Fox News does, or what the liberal or whatever the MPC does.

02:19:59.000 If we began to consider that if we're going to have a revolution, let's do it the way Obama has taken the nation.

02:20:06.000 The facts are in.

02:20:10.000 The studies are legion.

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02:24:33.000 And then we have Pastor James David Manning joining us for part of the next.

02:24:37.000 Then we have a bunch of big news I've got to get to.

02:24:40.000 But I tell you, if I lived in Harlem, I know whose church I'd be going to.

02:24:44.000 If we had more preachers in this country like Pastor Manning, we would not be in the shape we are.

02:24:49.000 People have just become so complacent they've got to find their spirit of resistance before things really go to hell in a handbasket.

02:24:55.000 Because Homeland Security All of these top generals and colonels at the Navy War College, the Army War College, you name it, West Point.

02:25:03.000 We have links to it up on Infowars.com or saying we're preparing for war with gun owners. 0.79

02:25:07.000 We're going to come after you.

02:25:09.000 We will take your gun from your cold dead hand. 0.67

02:25:11.000 And the military is totally waking up because they're being told prepare for war with America.

02:25:16.000 So I think they've miscalculated.

02:25:17.000 I mean, the military.

02:25:19.000 He's not afraid to go to war.

02:25:22.000 And, uh, I mean, the military people I know that are multi-generation military are the most honorable people in my family.

02:25:30.000 And let me tell you, they're not looking for a fight, folks.

02:25:32.000 They're very sad about everything.

02:25:34.000 But now the resolve is beginning to be, OK, it's going to be a civil war. 1.00

02:25:40.000 I just feel sorry for the police and all the idiots. 1.00

02:25:42.000 They're going to be part of the New World Order who want to have this civil war. 1.00

02:25:45.000 I mean, look at this headline.

02:25:47.000 Colonel who vowed to disarm Americans works with Homeland Security.

02:25:51.000 He teaches at West Point.

02:25:53.000 And it says, oath-violating colonel also made veiled death threats against bloggers.

02:25:58.000 Well, my goodness, if you read his article in Esquire, it sounds like a little kid. 0.93

02:26:02.000 Like, oh yeah, we'll kill you, we got the army, we're big, we're tough. 0.99

02:26:07.000 I mean, this is obviously somebody who I don't think has seen a lot of combat, or he's nuts. 0.96

02:26:11.000 Because all the combat vets I know, and I mean special forces people, I mean people that have been in 28 years and seen stuff, I mean, just unbelievable, they would never...

02:26:22.000 I mean, I know people that have worked in and around the boys from Virginia.

02:26:26.000 And I don't mean the CIA.

02:26:27.000 The Virginia boys are like plainclothes military above Delta Force.

02:26:32.000 And all I can... Pastor Manning, I've got you here to talk.

02:26:35.000 We've got four minutes until break.

02:26:36.000 I'm going to shut up. 0.77

02:26:37.000 You hear what I'm saying. 0.59

02:26:38.000 This is getting so bad.

02:26:41.000 Do you think Obama's bit off more than he can chew?

02:26:44.000 Or do you think that this is part of the plan?

02:26:47.000 Oh, absolutely not.

02:26:48.000 He has not been enough more than he can chew.

02:26:51.000 And I think his plan is in place and working right now perfectly.

02:26:55.000 The problem is that we've got to deal with this.

02:26:58.000 We're in the game very late.

02:27:01.000 And if there is a military coup, I know there are many generals and people within the military who recognize what's happening to this nation and would love to be able to save it.

02:27:11.000 But I don't think they're going to get the kind of support that they need in order to be able to do it.

02:27:16.000 And I don't think that a coup in the military would deliver us from the economic power.

02:27:24.000 That Obama is possessing.

02:27:26.000 And there's another thing that we're not observing as well in terms of the social and racial issue.

02:27:31.000 I'm becoming very concerned about Obama's alliance with Pope Francis.

02:27:36.000 I'm very concerned about them walking along the same social, if you will, liberal path that destroys the integrity of the Word of God and puts these two powers together.

02:27:47.000 Alex, I'm very concerned about that and whether a military response can handle where we are right now.

02:27:54.000 I hear you.

02:27:55.000 No, I'm just, we're just, I can't believe that the president has become a dictator and they're starting to have a few hearings but it's still not a big deal.

02:28:02.000 I mean, because this is what happens historically.

02:28:05.000 Countries get to where they put up with evil and then we empower the dictator to become a Hitler or a Mao.

02:28:14.000 Pastor Manning, do you think we can turn this around?

02:28:16.000 I'm confident that we can, but we must acknowledge what I said just a few moments ago.

02:28:20.000 We're late to the game, but we have the majority on our side.

02:28:24.000 We have the morality on our side.

02:28:25.000 We have all of the issues that we need on our side.

02:28:28.000 We just need to acknowledge what they are and put together a plan.

02:28:31.000 Obama has been planning this with the New World Order and others for years.

02:28:34.000 We're late to the game.

02:28:35.000 We're just getting in here.

02:28:37.000 But we can win, and we can win handily.

02:28:39.000 There's no way we should be defeated.

02:28:40.000 So yes, but we need to get started, and we need to get started immediately, if not beyond before that.

02:28:46.000 Well you say not use their tactics but beat them knowing their game.

02:28:51.000 What's your idea?

02:28:53.000 Well, as I said before, we've got to take down the media, Alex.

02:28:55.000 I mean, we have got to take down what I refer to as the tongue-in-head media, because they've got people pacified into thinking that Washington Republicans or whoever, or politicians, are going to solve our problems.

02:29:07.000 We've got to stop people from thinking that, wake them up to the fact that they need to get into the streets, not necessarily with arms or with margins, but they need to get into the program Of looking at what can we do economically, socially, and racially to bring this nation back together again.

02:29:23.000 And once they recognize that Washington is not going to solve it, that it must be done by grassroots movement, at least we'll have a start at that present time.

02:29:31.000 And what we'll also discover is that Obama's power is not as great as one would think that it is if the people that know the truth simply rise up. 0.99

02:29:42.000 Sure, well somebody can kick your butt if you lay down and let them. 0.99

02:29:45.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:29:46.000 We just gotta stand up.

02:29:47.000 I want to come back and go over some issues with you and pick your brain, because I'll tell you, you are just really a smart guy.

02:29:52.000 And I mean that seriously.

02:29:54.000 Pastor Manning really saw stuff long before I did.

02:29:58.000 We're on the march.

02:30:00.000 The Empire's on the run.

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02:33:19.000 You can run on for a long time Run on for a long time Run on for a long time Sooner, lady, we gotta put you down This is the perfect song for Obama. 0.99

02:33:37.000 I'll let it roll for a minute.

02:33:38.000 You can see the masterly evil of the establishment grooming Obama we now know from a very young age.

02:33:58.000 Just like it's out of a horror movie where they're grooming the Antichrist.

02:34:05.000 It's Rosemary's Baby.

02:34:07.000 It really is the stuff of legend, how his whole family's CIA, Pastor Manning's had the CIA and FBI come to his office and threaten him.

02:34:18.000 We've had the same thing.

02:34:20.000 FBI, Secret Service, you name it.

02:34:23.000 All sorts of things behind the scenes.

02:34:24.000 I mean, the minute, the minute they can, folks, they want to come after everybody and basically force a civil war.

02:34:30.000 That's probably going to be their plan.

02:34:33.000 And we just need to not have it happen.

02:34:38.000 And again, it sounds real wimpy on air to say, you know, I don't want a military coup or I think we should lay down to an attack by these people.

02:34:48.000 This isn't about a military fight.

02:34:52.000 If we don't respond when they attack us in the first wave of a purge...

02:34:58.000 Even with a controlled press, the message will get out that they did it.

02:35:01.000 But here's the deal.

02:35:02.000 They're not going to do that.

02:35:04.000 If they try a purge, they will blow up federal buildings filled with daycare children.

02:35:10.000 We know the names of who did Oklahoma City.

02:35:13.000 I've interviewed the police officers, the head of the K-9 unit, Don Browning, from Oklahoma City.

02:35:19.000 He knew the feds did it.

02:35:20.000 They came to his office.

02:35:21.000 He's listed their names on there. 1.00

02:35:23.000 And said, we're going to kill you and your wife if you don't shut up. 1.00

02:35:26.000 By the way, I got death threats when I had him on, and I mean the real ones. 0.99

02:35:31.000 Because you know the people that did that run the Justice Department right now.

02:35:36.000 And again, I literally, it's like stepping on the edge of a cliff whenever I get on air and talk about this kind of stuff, okay?

02:35:44.000 So when I say we need to have restraint, it's not that I'm not willing to get in a fight, it's that not going to hurt the New World Order.

02:35:52.000 to have a shootout with the state police.

02:35:54.000 We've got, before we're going to kill these people, we really need to go out and try to wake them up.

02:35:59.000 That's the point, and that's what Manning's getting at, is we have got to absolutely reach out to police and military right now.

02:36:07.000 The military has really woken up.

02:36:09.000 Police are starting to, but they kind of pick them to where they'll follow orders.

02:36:12.000 So that they see the rest of the story and get uncompartmentalized.

02:36:15.000 Now Manning, Pastor Manning, I want to give you the last 6-7 minutes here.

02:36:18.000 You've got the floor.

02:36:19.000 Don't pause for me.

02:36:21.000 Any other ideas how we turn this around?

02:36:23.000 Where you see this going?

02:36:28.000 Maybe citizens that are at Obama events yell out things. 0.98

02:36:31.000 Little stuff like, you're a liar in Congress. 0.88

02:36:33.000 We don't know.

02:36:34.000 There's all sorts of little things that could bring down the facade.

02:36:38.000 Well, when we talk about a coup and a military confrontation, we have to keep in mind that Obama comes from a very violent background, though he tries to present himself as the boy next door.

02:36:49.000 Obama's the product of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn and all that weather underground crowd.

02:36:55.000 He comes from a very violent background.

02:36:58.000 Keep that in mind. 0.86

02:36:59.000 His association with Islam is very violent.

02:37:03.000 But I think in terms of strategy, Alex, One of the things that we probably would look at after we take down the media, and we need to do that, because without that we're going to continually be beat by Obama.

02:37:15.000 We need to go after Obamacare. 0.98

02:37:17.000 That is McKinley's heel.

02:37:19.000 It's a massive tax program that's unconstitutional, that's socialist, that's communist at its core.

02:37:27.000 But he needs young people to be able to register and be a part of that process.

02:37:32.000 If young people don't register, Obamacare falls apart. 0.87

02:37:36.000 Now, the whole business with the rollout and the fact that the computer did not work, they're going to get that together at some point in time.

02:37:44.000 But if we can go out and launch a national campaign with a broadcast such as yours and others to reach young people that they don't sign up, that they're not cowed into signing up for Obamacare, if that can happen, then the whole thing falls apart.

02:38:00.000 Because at that point, Obama will not have the financing to be able to keep Obamacare alive.

02:38:05.000 And what he'll have to do at that point is do something more dictatorial than he's doing right now.

02:38:11.000 So I would suggest that what we would do, number one, is take down the media.

02:38:16.000 Number two is take down Obamacare.

02:38:18.000 And doing it through the people, pardon me, Just doing it through the young people who don't want Obamacare, and then turning them around against him.

02:38:28.000 Because they were all for him at one point in time, but not anymore.

02:38:32.000 And they're definitely not going to sign up for Obamacare.

02:38:34.000 If we do those two things, at least we'll begin to put a crack in his armor, and begin to educate the people, and we can take him down economically the way he's trying to take us down economically and emotionally.

02:38:48.000 Again, you paused for me to interject, but everything you're saying is just spot on with the research and great ideas, and I just thank God for your leadership and many others, and I wish there were more people out there who understood all these different nuances, because it's scary to know people are waking up, but that there's not that many prominent people that are willing to...

02:39:07.000 ...come up with a battle plan, but let me ask you this question.

02:39:11.000 I've noticed evil loves to betray its own minions, historically, and I don't understand that as a person that doesn't know betrayal.

02:39:18.000 I don't like betraying even people that are enemies and bad.

02:39:21.000 In fact, crushing them...

02:39:23.000 It feels like a betrayal, even though I'm not betraying them.

02:39:26.000 I'm standing up for myself.

02:39:28.000 But with Obama, he loves... I mean, here's an example.

02:39:30.000 Barton Springs.

02:39:31.000 I went down there two months ago.

02:39:32.000 You know, to the big open pool.

02:39:34.000 They got like 20 lifeguards.

02:39:35.000 One of the biggest natural pools in the U.S.

02:39:38.000 Spring Fed.

02:39:39.000 And one after the other, they walked over and apologized.

02:39:42.000 And they said, I thought you were wrong about Obamacare.

02:39:45.000 They just cut me from 40 hours to 20.

02:39:47.000 And they're taking more money out of my check now.

02:39:49.000 And I work another job, and I go to UT, and I eat ramen noodle.

02:39:54.000 My parents are poor.

02:39:55.000 I don't have any money.

02:39:56.000 They're taking like $50 more out of my check.

02:39:59.000 Like you said, they lied on the news.

02:40:02.000 And everywhere, the poor Obama people apologized. 1.00

02:40:06.000 How could the communists Even betray their own idiot followers. 1.00

02:40:09.000 And I'm not trying to be mean, but it's just how do you hurt poor people like this? 1.00

02:40:13.000 And how does he think he'll get away with that?

02:40:16.000 I think the thing we have to always keep in focus about communism and socialism and Marxism and Islam is that it has never worked. 0.98

02:40:23.000 There is no nation on the planet where it has worked, where it's proven to win the love of the people, where we in a democracy and capitalism here love our nation for what it is.

02:40:35.000 Most communist people that are at the bottom of the communist rung don't care for communism and want to get out from underneath it.

02:40:42.000 And it takes the military to keep communism going.

02:40:44.000 So I think that when we look at what Obama's trying to do and what the New World Order thinks that they can accomplish, however, they're using more hot technology now than they've used in perhaps a mousy tongue or in Lenin's communism. 0.51

02:40:56.000 We're going to have to recognize that communism, really at the heart of the matter with people, doesn't work.

02:41:03.000 So how do we get the message out?

02:41:05.000 Rather than talking about a different political ideal, such as a Republican versus a Democrat, we've got to tell people about the ills of communism.

02:41:15.000 We've got to go into, I think our fourth program would be, we've got to get into the universities and into the schools, because that's where they're indoctrinating our young people into thinking that communism is a good thing and that Obama's program is a good thing.

02:41:29.000 We have to do these basic things.

02:41:31.000 We win!

02:41:32.000 If we don't do them, we definitely lose.

02:41:36.000 Well, I want to be clear.

02:41:37.000 I mean, when you see how Obama tries to take the radical Islamist Al-Qaeda people from Saudi Arabia, and to inject them into Syria for two and a half years, and then call that peace, I mean, it really does show that this particular elite we have, I mean, look how the NFL promotes him.

02:41:52.000 Look at how the whole system's giving their power to him, showing the power structures behind him.

02:41:58.000 Do you think Obama's paying off the way they thought?

02:42:01.000 Because as you said, if Obamacare is blowing up in their face, well, they knew it was going to blow up in their face.

02:42:06.000 So he's got to become a dictator because his whole agenda is going to backfire.

02:42:10.000 They're going to end up losing a whole generation to believing in communism because they're giving them a taste of it before they have full dictatorship in.

02:42:20.000 Well, if you look at the stock market, well, Obamacare is blowing up in its face, but if you look at the stock market, he is greatly rewarding people that have invested in him.

02:42:30.000 If you're talking about major people in the movies or in business and entrepreneurship, they are reaping great rewards, the greatest in the history of this nation.

02:42:40.000 They're reaping their financial rewards for supporting him, but they're just a small percentage of the population.

02:42:47.000 And they're not in control.

02:42:49.000 And it's in fiat devalued dollars.

02:42:52.000 And it's not going to be worth anything.

02:42:54.000 It's all a fraud.

02:42:55.000 It's all hot air.

02:42:56.000 That's true.

02:42:57.000 That's true.

02:42:58.000 And I think that the American people need to wake up and begin to, and of course, prepare themselves for when the financial collapse comes.

02:43:05.000 And it will come, whether Obama's in power or not.

02:43:07.000 That's coming.

02:43:08.000 And that will be another opportunity, once the financial collapse comes, for those of us who've been out here on the battlefield to take the power, take the power reigns at that time, when the economy is weak and people are dependent on their billions to be able to give them power.

02:43:23.000 We have power by our commitment.

02:43:26.000 We have power by our love for this nation.

02:43:28.000 We have power by our love for one another.

02:43:31.000 That's our power, and we're rich in the billions in that, and we ought to use it as much as we possibly can.

02:43:38.000 I agree.

02:43:38.000 I can feel your power, Pastor Manning, because you have love.

02:43:42.000 And I can hear it and see it in other people's voices.

02:43:45.000 I just feel sad that the average person doesn't seem to have any discernment. 0.97

02:43:48.000 I mean, you can take one look at Obama and tell he's a devil. 0.53

02:43:51.000 I just didn't know how bad.

02:43:52.000 What in your spirit told you six, seven years ago, or even longer, that Obama was so bad? 0.55

02:43:58.000 Yeah, well, you remember I was on your show very early on, and talking to you about Obama being the son of Satan.

02:44:03.000 A lot of people call him the Antichrist, and that will work. 1.00

02:44:06.000 You certainly don't want to throw that out. 0.98

02:44:08.000 But Obama is inherently evil. 0.89

02:44:11.000 When you listen to what he is saying over against a reality of where we are as a people, you know that he is lying, and that he is lying profusely. 0.85

02:44:20.000 Obama did this one thing, Alex.

02:44:22.000 He promised the world, not just America, But he promised the world what they wanted to hear and knew that he could not deliver it.

02:44:31.000 He promised the world you were going to have peace and you're going to have prosperity.

02:44:35.000 We're going to have a unity of the people.

02:44:37.000 We're going to bring all the nations to the table.

02:44:39.000 We're going to have a unity between Muslims and Jews.

02:44:42.000 We're going to have a unity between blacks and whites.

02:44:44.000 We're going to have a wealth where everybody has got wealth and power and prosperity.

02:44:50.000 He promised that, not just to America, but to the world.

02:44:54.000 And that's why people fell for him.

02:44:56.000 But the opposite of that is to look at that and know that he can't deliver that.

02:44:59.000 He cannot.

02:45:00.000 So he's lying.

02:45:02.000 Well, he's delivered the opposite.

02:45:04.000 He's delivered the opposite.

02:45:05.000 Absolutely.

02:45:06.000 And that's my point.

02:45:08.000 I knew that's exactly what he was going to do.

02:45:11.000 So we have to recognize that anyone that would lie like that to the American people and to the world has to be ultimately evil so that he can take away their liberties, take away their freedom, take away their economic base.

02:45:25.000 So when you see Obama, when I saw him six years ago in that perspective, and talking to things he was saying and denying what I knew to be the truth about him, it was very easy to see how evil he was and how people were searching for it, looking for it.

02:45:42.000 And you've got to also realize that George Bush was such a disaster that they were looking for anything to bring them up out of the world.

02:45:49.000 out of the book.

02:45:50.000 But look at how now that I pull back, I see the elite behind this, but it's even more than they could orchestrate the way it was all orchestrated perfectly.

02:45:59.000 It really is satanic.

02:46:01.000 Everything we've seen has been orchestrated.

02:46:03.000 As you know, the Bible talks about the mystery of evil, how it works so well together.

02:46:08.000 And you can really now see on Obama a super evil design, one of the most evil I've ever even heard of in history, with a high-tech integration.

02:46:17.000 And I shudder to think what we're going to see out of this figurehead, out of this production, out of everything behind him, out of all the evil behind him.

02:46:28.000 I wish you would send me the clip of what you just said.

02:46:30.000 I love to play it on our broadcast every day because it puts succinctly what we need to be aware of.

02:46:37.000 Now that you've said that and you've demonstrated that truth, how do we educate the people?

02:46:43.000 How do we get out there and tell the people we're still hoping against hope?

02:46:47.000 That Obama's going to change.

02:46:49.000 That he's going to make the world a great place.

02:46:51.000 Even though they see themselves without jobs, they see themselves losing their income, they see themselves losing their family, losing their children, losing this nation, and yet they're still hoping that somehow or another that he is going to do what he promised six years ago.

02:47:06.000 How do we educate people?

02:47:07.000 That's a small clip you just said just a few moments ago.

02:47:11.000 Well, you look at it, he's dangling again.

02:47:14.000 It's coming.

02:47:15.000 Hope's around the corner.

02:47:16.000 Give me more power, I'll fix it.

02:47:18.000 And then they consciously try to wreck the country.

02:47:20.000 It's not like they're screwing things up on accident.

02:47:23.000 They want to screw it up.

02:47:24.000 You know they're doing it.

02:47:25.000 I guess you just explained to people that you better follow your gut and your heart and your eyes.

02:47:30.000 I mean, the thing is, It's all right there.

02:47:33.000 And I think people are afraid of the responsibility.

02:47:36.000 They want to, like you said earlier, think that the Republicans are going to save them.

02:47:39.000 And they better figure out that praying to God is going to save them.

02:47:42.000 Because if people pray to God and repent and get on their knees and seek a reprieve of the nation, then God will change their heart and give them discernment and rise them up in little ways but also in big ways, depending on who you are or where you're at.

02:47:58.000 And together, just like evil works through Obama and his people, we have to ask God to use us as vessels against them in this battle.

02:48:05.000 But God knows there's free will, so gives us free will.

02:48:09.000 The devil manipulates against free will.

02:48:11.000 We have to consciously and spiritually ask God to cleanse us and use us and sanctify us every day and put on the armor against the enemy.

02:48:22.000 There's an event in the Bible where there were two prophets.

02:48:24.000 The prophet Elisha and he had a young protégé working with him and they were surrounded by a mighty army that were outside of the canyon where they were at and getting ready to come in to kill the prophet and the young man.

02:48:37.000 And the prophet, the young boy said, they're going to kill us, they're going to kill us.

02:48:42.000 The prophet prayed that the young boy's eyes would be open so he could see the mighty host of angels that were standing there to protect him against that mighty army, and the angels are certainly going to win and overpower that army.

02:48:55.000 But you have just said that what we have got to do is that we have got to pray that God will open the eyes of the people so they can see how evil Obama is.

02:49:06.000 And you made mention of the Second Chronicle, 714, that if we pray and repent, that God will heal our land.

02:49:14.000 But beyond that, I am convinced, Alex, that if we launch a campaign of praying for people that God would open their eyes, when they see Obama, they will see unadulterated evil in its purest and most evil form.

02:49:30.000 There's never been anybody in America, in leadership, as evil as this man is.

02:49:36.000 And of course, his beauty dazzles everybody, and so therefore they're not able to get to the core of who he is spiritually.

02:49:44.000 People's eyes just need to be open to how evil this man is that has taken over our nation and is seeking to destroy it.

02:49:50.000 But I will say this, I know we're going to win.

02:49:53.000 God has not established this man to give it to Obama.

02:49:58.000 I just lost audio to the network.

02:50:00.000 Can you guys hear me?

02:50:01.000 Yes, we can hear you, Alex.

02:50:02.000 Pastor Manning is still on?

02:50:02.000 Yeah.

02:50:04.000 Yes, I'm still here.

02:50:05.000 Yes.

02:50:05.000 Go ahead and finish up, Pastor Manning.

02:50:06.000 You said that we are going to win, and I agree with you.

02:50:09.000 I think so.

02:50:09.000 We are going to win.

02:50:10.000 God's not going to give this nation over to Obama, even though many people are asserting that, well, we've been so wicked.

02:50:18.000 We've disavowed God, God's turned us over to a reprobate nation. 0.96

02:50:22.000 But no, that's not the case at all.

02:50:24.000 We are going through some struggles right now, but we will not lose this great nation.

02:50:29.000 We will not lose this pinnacle of power and presentation of God on this planet.

02:50:34.000 We will win.

02:50:35.000 Well, Pastor Manning, I think this is the most powerful interview I've ever done with you or heard, period, and I think definitely the Spirit of the Lord's with us today.

02:50:43.000 Let's just agree together, and I'll have you back soon, that we should both, to our audiences, promote praying that the eyes of America and the world be open, and that we say that prayer, and I know I'll say that during the break, and I know you'll say it, Pastor Manning.

02:50:57.000 Thank you.

02:50:58.000 Will you stay there and come back and say a prayer on air in the final segment?

02:51:04.000 And the show's over in 10 minutes, so we're going to come back, he'll say the prayer, and then I'll hit a few final news stories with David.

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02:54:15.000 Tell all the folks in Russia and China.

02:54:21.000 Folks, they have a false love that they sell everybody, but it's all about betrayal and tyranny.

02:54:27.000 Time!

02:54:29.000 We've got to rediscover the Bill of Rights and Constitution and new process and individual liberty.

02:54:36.000 Evil always sells you the idea that it's going to bring you empowerment and individuality, but it really brings collectivism and slavery.

02:54:43.000 Some of the headlines up on Infowars.com are just incredible.

02:54:46.000 Colonel who vowed to disarm Americans works with Homeland Security and threatens bloggers.

02:54:52.000 I mean, these people are just roaring with their tyranny.

02:54:56.000 And you look at photos of this colonel, he just looks Like a power craze narcissist. 0.97

02:55:03.000 Also, an army officer says we will pry your guns from your cold dead fingers. 0.98

02:55:07.000 Unbelievable. 0.98

02:55:09.000 I mean, just taunting us.

02:55:12.000 Mandela Lovefest ignores dark side of legacy.

02:55:15.000 We've got an article up there about things that, I mean, it's just a fact.

02:55:18.000 They traded one evil for another.

02:55:20.000 Homeland Security searches vehicles at Ferry Crossing Checkpoint.

02:55:24.000 We've got an article up on DrudgeReport.com on the right-hand side, red-linked, or it was red-linked earlier, where they're going to make you go through biometric scanners and like prison cells at the airport.

02:55:34.000 It's all prisoner training.

02:55:35.000 But Pastor Manning, I'm going to let you get out of here.

02:55:37.000 I know you're a busy man.

02:55:42.000 AH World Ministries, they're in Harlem, and God bless you for the work you do, but please just give us a brief or heartfelt prayer, it could be long or whatever, about opening the eyes, and I think everybody should say this prayer daily, and really think about it and tell others about it, that the spell, the evil spell of deception be lifted from our eyes so that we can really see good from evil.

02:56:07.000 Thank you, Alex, and thank you again for having me on your broadcast today.

02:56:10.000 I really, really appreciate it.

02:56:12.000 But let's go to the Lord in prayer.

02:56:13.000 Heavenly Father, we thank you so very much for allowing us to be in this great nation, to be born here, to be officially born here, to have our birth certificate here, to know and to be a part of the process that has made this nation great.

02:56:27.000 We recognize, Almighty God, that it is you that has blessed us against many other nations that we see around the world that don't have our joy, don't have our prosperity, don't have our love, and all the things that you've made such a pinnacle in such a city on a hill.

02:56:41.000 Now, Heavenly Father, there's a great darkness and deception that has come over our nation in the person of Obama, and it is my prayer, and I unite with everyone else today, that an appeal to you to open the eyes of the people Open their eyes, Lord, that they might see this awful evil that is now seated in Washington at the White House.

02:57:03.000 And then open their hearts, Almighty God, and give them the courage to be able to stand up for truth, and to stand up for the unborn, and to stand up for those that have worked so hard to make this great nation what it is.

02:57:17.000 To stand up for those that are being maligned by and duped and tempted by Obama.

02:57:23.000 Open their eyes and their ears and stuff their hearts full of courage that we might march forward.

02:57:28.000 And we are praising you right now for the victory, for we know we will not lose, but we most assuredly will win in the day that you have set aside.

02:57:36.000 In your name, Jesus, we pray.

02:57:38.000 Amen and amen.

02:57:39.000 Amen.

02:57:40.000 Amen.

02:57:40.000 And Absolutely.

02:57:42.000 And that's why that particular preacher that had his own prayer breakfast and mildly criticized Obama, they audited him and came after him and it came out that it was ordered.

02:57:51.000 And it just shows they're afraid of true men of God, true women of God who follow that.

02:57:56.000 And folks, you know, this is not a preacher show, but in great times of evil, we have to just get down to the very bottom here.

02:58:04.000 This is a spiritual battle.

02:58:05.000 Pastor Manning, thank you so much for the time.

02:58:07.000 Thank you, Alex.

02:58:09.000 We'll talk to you again soon.

02:58:10.000 There he goes.

02:58:11.000 He was only going to be on for 20 minutes.

02:58:12.000 He was very busy, but he was able to stay the whole hour with us.

02:58:14.000 We'll get him back on because we got him on on short notice.

02:58:18.000 But I tell you folks, the evil is real.

02:58:21.000 We're going to do a little bit of overdrive to finish some news, but the 40 seconds out to break, David Knight riding shotgun.

02:58:26.000 That was pretty powerful info.

02:58:28.000 It was very powerful, and you know, when he's talking about how evil Obama is, it's just what we were talking about yesterday, the way he's betraying these people who are at the bottom of the wage pyramid, and at the same time he's taking them down with Obamacare, he's also putting on, uh, saying that he's for their minimum wage being wage.

02:58:47.000 Explain that!

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